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Title: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on November 11, 2008, 11:31 AM
Official ‘Magneto’ Synopsis Released For X-Men Spin-Off Film (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/11/11/official-magneto-synopsis-released-for-x-men-spin-off-film/)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on November 12, 2008, 12:23 AM
Official ‘Magneto’ Synopsis Released For X-Men Spin-Off Film (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/11/11/official-magneto-synopsis-released-for-x-men-spin-off-film/)

That sounds much cooler than Magneto vs. Nazis.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Famine on November 12, 2008, 02:30 AM
I don't know if I can get behind a Magneto flick. If they can get the original actors of the people they plan on having reprise their roles, I can be OK with that. Otherwise, take a hike, Magneto. I got a whole fridge full of you punks.

Kevin
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on November 12, 2008, 11:22 AM
I don't know if I can get behind a Magneto flick. If they can get the original actors of the people they plan on having reprise their roles, I can be OK with that. Otherwise, take a hike, Magneto. I got a whole fridge full of you punks.

Kevin

Seriously?   If the movie is set several decades in the past, Pat and Ian would look a little too old for the parts, don't you think?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on December 13, 2008, 06:14 PM
A bootleg trailer is up for Wolverine Origins movie trailer, X-Men Origins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sm10EmTe_c). Catch it before it gets pulled, not the best quality.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on December 13, 2008, 06:35 PM
According to that posting it's attached to The Day The Earth Stood Still.  An official version should be available for viewing within a week or so.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on December 14, 2008, 08:12 AM
Link taken down - here's a new one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kgHjmmHeOI)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: evenflow on December 14, 2008, 08:44 AM
Have not been following this movie at all, but nice to see Gambit in there.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on December 14, 2008, 09:42 AM
Link taken down - here's a new one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kgHjmmHeOI)

That's not the trailer, that one is old from Comic Con.

I found another one but who knows for how long it will be up.

Wolverine Origins Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ms1Y9fORM)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on December 14, 2008, 10:49 AM
Link taken down - here's a new one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kgHjmmHeOI)

That's not the trailer, that one is old from Comic Con.

I found another one but who knows for how long it will be up.

Wolverine Origins Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ms1Y9fORM)

Oops, I linked to the wrong one.  :P
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on December 15, 2008, 01:54 PM
Official Wolverine Trailer (http://www.myspace.com/x-menorigins)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on December 15, 2008, 02:08 PM
Whoot! Now that's a bit clearer, all I can say is Jesus H. Christ in a chicken basket!!! This movie is going to rock!  8)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on December 15, 2008, 04:07 PM
The trailer looks pretty good to me too.  Lots of mutant cameos they way it looks, and if they do it right, its a nice way to continue that universe a little bit after X-Men: The Last Stand.  It looks like this site (http://www.demonfetus.com/wolv/) has some stills taken from the trailer, if anyone is interested.  Definitely looking forward to seeing it next year.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Mikey D on December 15, 2008, 04:49 PM
Who's the bare chested dude in red pants spin kicking at Wolverine?

I assume the blond diamond chick is Emma Frost.  I don't think she's hot enough.  Maybe it's the lack of white panties and corset.

And you just know Gettysburg Wolverine, Saving Private Ryan Wolverine and Platoon Wolverine toys are coming...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on December 15, 2008, 05:00 PM
Who's the bare chested dude in red pants spin kicking at Wolverine?

I'm guessing his son.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JangoTat on December 15, 2008, 06:14 PM
I just shat bricks watching that trailer :o GAMBIT!!!!!!!!!!! ;D...though actor doesnt really look much like him
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on December 15, 2008, 06:48 PM
I'm ******' psyched by that trailer!  Gambit is one of my favorite X-Men and to finally see him in a film is awesome.  The kid playing him, Tyler Kitsch, is pretty good, too.  Plays that brooding type very well.

And is anyone else looking forward to seeing what Liev Schreiber can do with Sabretooth? 

On paper the cast looks awesome, the visuals shown look incredible and the list of mutants is top notch.  I'm really looking forward to this film.

   E...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on December 15, 2008, 07:12 PM
Liev Schreiber should be worlds better at the Sabretooth character than Tyler Mane.  At the very least he could act circles around Mane.  And while Sabretooth had always been a physically imposing adversary for Wolverine in the comics, there was always a lot more going on in their conflict.  It was personal.  Sabretooth knew how to get under Wolverine's skin.  And that's much more interesting to me than just seeing Wolverine fight Sabretooth.  It's the personal conflict that makes the fight that much more compelling.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on February 18, 2009, 08:56 AM
3 TV spots for X-Men Origins: Wolverine (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808665084/video/12086696) are up.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on March 5, 2009, 08:54 AM
The final Wolverine trailer was supposed to go up at noon EST today, but apparently USA Today posted it early (http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=8141).  I'm looking forward to seeing this movie, but - if one particular character is who many think it is - they are taking some...um...liberties with Deadpool in this movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 5, 2009, 12:19 PM
Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool.  I don't know that he ever wears a mask.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on March 5, 2009, 06:15 PM
That movie looks much better than I thought it was going to.  I love the idea of Reynolds as Deadpool - his character from Blade III seems like a pretty good match for merc with a mouth.  Depending on how it plays out, this could be a springboard for his own flick.  I thought I recalled reading that he was just a regular guy with a healing factor similar to Wolvie.  He was burned and left for dead, but survived thanks to his healing ability, so it would make sense that he doesn't wear a mask until after that. 
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on March 6, 2009, 09:02 AM
Yeah, it doesn't look as if he wears the mask in this flick (or maybe at the very end), but he seems to have some funky things going on with his powers (having Wolverine/Cyclops-ish powers).  I've read some spoilers that would maybe explain it somewhat, and I'm not usually one to complain too much when they make some changes to adapt it to the big screen, so I'll wait and see.  Still excited to see this flick.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 6, 2009, 09:38 AM
I thought it was another kid (young Cyclops, perhaps) that has Cyclops' powers.  They look a lot a like.  I need to look at the trailer again.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on March 6, 2009, 09:44 AM
Yeah, it looks like young Cyclops is in the movie as well - but I was talking about this shot posted on the SHH forums (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=320521&page=3), which appears to have both "claws" and laser vision:

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/sniktsnakt/aaaa.jpg)

Again, I'm not positive this is Deadpool - I'm just going by internet forum posters and the recent toy release (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=902&SBR=735&ST=SO&ID=23994&PG=1) which apparently looks similar to this (shirtless/tattoos/etc.).  I'm definitely not the most knowledgeable about this movie (or even Deadpool as a character).
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 6, 2009, 09:46 AM
Yep... that's Cyclops, not Deadpool.  Deadpool is later in the trailer with his swords.

Anybody have any idea who the black guy is?  Only one I know from the comics is Bishop.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 6, 2009, 09:48 AM
I don't have any idea who that is.  He was in one of the teaser trailers as well.  But it's not Deadpool.  Ryan Reynolds is a lot leaner.

Looks like one of the baddies from Mortal Kombat.   ;D
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on March 6, 2009, 09:51 AM
Yeah, I didn't think it looked like Ryan Reynolds either - but the Hasbro toy does say that character is Deadpool.  Unless they have an entirely different guy playing him (stunt man?), it looks like a different actor to me as well.  I've read some things saying that this is "post scarred" version of Deadpool (since you see Reynolds in the trailers as well), and then there are some rumors/theories as to why he has these other powers as well.  By the way - I agree - Reynolds should be a great choice for DP - looking forward to seeing that.  Its actually nice to see Cyclops included - the recent trailer pretty much shows him getting more action sequences than the X-Men movies.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jeff on March 6, 2009, 09:53 AM
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/sniktsnakt/aaaa.jpg) (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/Files_Main/897132aef956_Main400.jpg)

I'm with you Brian, it looks like the same guy to me...  same color pants, same claws, same tattoo/markings.  Maybe not the "classic" Deadpool, but it's definitely who Hasbro thinks is Deadpool in the movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on March 6, 2009, 09:57 AM
'X-Men Origins: Wolverine': A Shot-By-Shot Analysis Of Exclusive New Trailer (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1606347/story.jhtml)

Final "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" Trailer Images (http://www.mtv.com/photos/final-x-men-origins-wolverine-trailer-images/1606337/3644690/photo.jhtml)

Weapon XI.

(http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/x/x-men_origins_wolverine_090304/030409_wolverine05.jpg)

(http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/x/x-men_origins_wolverine_090304/030409_wolverine06.jpg)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 6, 2009, 10:04 AM
So yeah... Hasbro just goofed.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on March 6, 2009, 10:06 AM
Hasbro goofed, naw. That would never happen in this day & age of toys.  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on March 6, 2009, 10:06 AM
Yeah, the Weapon XI is the rumor stuff I had heard involving Deadpool.  That he is experimented on, giving him those powers, but I'm not sure if that is confirmed or not.  Again, like Bill mentioned, that certainly doesn't look like Ryan Reynolds, and I don't know why they couldn't put the makeup/prostetics on him for these scenes.  If it is Deadpool, maybe the extra powers thing is temporary, and he's back to "normal" by the end of the movie and heading towards donning the mask/etc.  I know they have hoped of spinning him off into his own movie off of this, so if that works out that may be why he is getting a lot of story/screen time between the various versions.

EDIT: I see in the pics that Dale posted from MTV, that it is indeed a different actor (Scott Adkins) playing "Weapon XI".
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on March 6, 2009, 03:53 PM
I have to say that the casting on this film looks to be part genius and part WTF.  Cause I'm thinking Kitsch, Reynolds, and Durand as Gambit, Deadpool and Blob respectively is pretty damn good but I'm not sure of Schreiber as Sabretooth.

And the black guy, that's Kestrel, I think.  I only ever remember reading about him a couple times but I do recall him being part of the Weapon X program.

May is flippin' stacked with movies this year.  It's a blitz right from the first with Wolverine and then the next 3 weeks bring Star Trek, Angels and Demons and Terminator Salvation on the 22nd. 

   E...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on March 6, 2009, 04:47 PM
I don't think that's supposed to be Deadpool.  He's listed as Weapon XI and there's a note in Wiki that the action figure posted above was mislabeled as Deadpool:

Weapon XI
Scott Adkins has reportedly been cast as Weapon XI in the movie X-Men Origins: Wolverine[1] A leaked action figure of the character (incorrectly listed as Deadpool) shows him with Wolverine-like claws and a trailer shows him with Cyclops' optic blasts.
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_Plus#Weapon_XI)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on March 6, 2009, 06:04 PM
Just to add more to the whole Deadpool debate, I saw some X-Men Origins: Wolverine stuff at WM and they had a SuperHero Squad four pack from the movie, and it also had that same character labeled as Deadpool.  Hasbro must be mislabeling across the board, or he is indeed Deadpool in some form.  I think I'd almost rather he was a different character (Weapon XI), but I guess we'll see in a couple months.

I was just reading through the SHH boards HERE (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=296208&page=248)...where they are discussing the Deadpool stuff.  Grain of salt and all that, but this was apparently some info - I'll leave space for those avoiding SPOILERS:
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Ryan Reynolds shows up for 10 minutes in the beginning of the film. He's part of Stryker's team, and his mutant ability is mostly being a badass with swords, cutting bullets and the like. He is called Wade Wilson during this period.
• Stryker's big plan (or one of 'em) is to make Weapon XI, a mutant with a ****-ton of mutant powers.
• Stryker uses Wilson's body as the mutant power receptacle, and because of the scarring (I'm not sure whether that's from a previous fight, or as a result of all the mutant powers getting packed into him), Weapon XI is played by Scott Adkins. Weapon XI appears for about ten minutes near the film's end, and has the claws seen above (a la Wolverine), Cyclops' optic blast, Wraith's teleportation ability, and Wolverine's healing factor, too. Also, his mouth is indeed sewn shut.
• Just like Weapon X is given the name "Wolverine," Weapon XI is given the name "Deadpool."
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on March 7, 2009, 01:06 AM
Welp...that's kind of ******.  Maybe?

I'm definitely going to see this opening night one way or the other.

   E...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 7, 2009, 08:19 AM
Yeah, that's really, really stupid.  They ruined one of the best characters.  I guess we won't be seeing a Deadpool spin-off.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Artoo on March 8, 2009, 11:35 PM
Sadly, that is the Merc with the Mouth. I go to a site called "Super Hero Hype", the Deadpool forum there is going crazy because of these drastic changes. I don't get they get Gambit (one of my favorites) spot on the (the trench coat, the staff, the same powers, the red eyes, the accent, the pimp-ness. But Deadpool (my favorite character) gets raped in the azz.  :-\

I've been hearing rumors that not only Deadpool, but Wolverine were going to get masks but they took them out because they said it'd be weird for the rest of the team not to have masks while those two did.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on March 19, 2009, 10:17 AM
It appears the 2nd Mutant (Weapon XI?) in the last Wolverine trailer is indeed Deadpool, at least according to Ryan Reynolds (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men_movies/x-men_origins_wolverine/news/?a=6643).
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on April 3, 2009, 05:53 AM
'X-Men Origins: Wolverine' leaked to Web (http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/02/xmen.piracy/index.html)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Artoo on April 4, 2009, 01:06 AM
Deadpool (my favorite character ever) got a serious ass raping in that movie. But besides that, it was a good popcorn movie. I liked it more than X1 & X3.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on April 13, 2009, 09:18 AM
SHH (http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=8240) (via MTV) has posted 5 new character profile videos from X-Men Origins: Wolverine.  Included are Wolverine, Sabretooth, Gambit, Wade Wilson, and Wraith.  Kind of neat to see some new footage of characters like Gambit and Wilson.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on April 13, 2009, 08:42 PM
I still think that getting Taylor Kitsch as Gambit is genius casting.  I'm still unsure about Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth but I'll wait till after the film to make my final judgement on that one. 

Ryan Reynolds as Wade Wilson is also pretty good but from the sounds of it he, and the character Deadpool, kind of get a ****** treatment in this film compared to the comic version.  Haven't read all the info out on the film but that's what I'm getting just from a few things I have seen and what's been in this thread.

Will.i.am looks like he's going to be good in this film also.  I really love it when a movie can surprise me from a casting standpoint when they get someone I never would have thought of to play a part and that person knocks it out of the park.  Hugh Jackman raised a lot of eyebrows when he as announced as Wolverine, but now after thee films, I can't picture anyone else in that role because he's done such a good job with it.  Robert Downy in IM, Bale as Batman...  I almost can't wait to see how they cast some of the other films coming in the near future.

    E...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Artoo on April 14, 2009, 12:59 AM
Reynolds is pretty good when he's Wade. He's classic Deadpool there.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: MetalJedi on April 14, 2009, 01:06 AM
Ryan Renoylds is a smartass just like Deadpool. I think they picked the perfect person to play him.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on April 15, 2009, 10:40 AM
Sounds like there are hopes/plans for a X-Men: First Class (http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=8247) franchise, starting out with a young Cyclops, Jean and Beast - according to producer Lauren Shuler-Donner.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on April 20, 2009, 12:27 PM
New video (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20870) up similar to the previous character focus ones - it seems to show a few other mutants as well though (Emma Frost/Blob/etc.).
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on April 29, 2009, 11:39 AM
Got my tix's for Wolverine Friday nite.  8)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jeff on May 1, 2009, 03:34 PM
I've read a lot of Wolverine movie reviews that say "stay until the end of the credits". 

Anyone know that particular spoiler yet?  Surely it must be on-line by now, the movie's been out for hours!   :P
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on May 1, 2009, 03:47 PM
I've read a lot of Wolverine movie reviews that say "stay until the end of the credits". 

Anyone know that particular spoiler yet?  Surely it must be on-line by now, the movie's been out for hours!   :P

There are multiple endings attached to the prints so not all people will see the same one. I've heard of a few of them but not sure if I should post them. But here's a link (http://www.geektyrant.com/2009/04/2-altwolv/) to some of them.

Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: knashdx on May 1, 2009, 04:06 PM
I've read a lot of Wolverine movie reviews that say "stay until the end of the credits". 

Anyone know that particular spoiler yet?  Surely it must be on-line by now, the movie's been out for hours!   :P

There are multiple endings attached to the prints so not all people will see the same one. I've heard of a few of them but not sure if I should post them.



PM me the link to all the different ones so I know which one I miss when I see the movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on May 1, 2009, 04:36 PM
Crap.  I had a feeling I should have stayed until the very end but I was sitting in a spot that a lot of people had to walk through to get out and I didn't feel like dealing with it at 2am so I left.  I did see the part with Stryker getting stopped, though.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sugart on May 1, 2009, 05:58 PM
I just got back from seeing the movie. I stayed til after credits and I didnt see either one of those endings posted in the link. The second one is close, but not exactly.

Overall Im pretty disappointed with the film. The casting was really good, but the story, espeacially the last 45 minutes, was pretty lame. The worst thing however was the CGI, it was some of the worst Ive seen. I mean Jurassic Park came out how many years ago, this ish looked like Tron
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 1, 2009, 06:20 PM
I've read a lot of Wolverine movie reviews that say "stay until the end of the credits". 

Anyone know that particular spoiler yet?  Surely it must be on-line by now, the movie's been out for hours!   :P

There are multiple endings attached to the prints so not all people will see the same one. I've heard of a few of them but not sure if I should post them. But here's a link (http://www.geektyrant.com/2009/04/2-altwolv/) to some of them.



Wow, that last one sounds great considering all the crap I heard about DP in the movie.  I hope they stick with that one in terms of future movies!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 1, 2009, 07:11 PM
SPOILER ALERT:

**** **** ****...can we get some kind of "spoiler tag" modification for the text on the posts?




At the end of the credits, and I don't know if this is the case on all prints, there is a zoom-in on the ruins of the nuclear reactor on Three Mile Island, where "Deadpool's" arm comes out of the debris, retracts the "sword" into the arm, and unburies his own head, which looks at the audience and says, "Shhhh."

I hope that the font color change worked to cover it up suitably so nobody has anything ruined for them.

Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sugart on May 1, 2009, 07:26 PM
SPOILER ALERT:

**** **** ****...can we get some kind of "spoiler tag" modification for the text on the posts?




At the end of the credits, and I don't know if this is the case on all prints, there is a zoom-in on the ruins of the nuclear reactor on Three Mile Island, where "Deadpool's" arm comes out of the debris, retracts the "sword" into the arm, and unburies his own head, which looks at the audience and says, "Shhhh."

I hope that the font color change worked to cover it up suitably so nobody has anything ruined for them.




Thats what I saw.So there is atleast 3
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Morgbug on May 1, 2009, 07:32 PM
That's the one I saw as well.  I thought it was awfully lame. 

I enjoyed the movie for the fluff it was, but they pretty much made me totally dislike Deadpool as a character now.   :-\
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: iFett on May 2, 2009, 05:12 PM
I know basically nothing of comics or the X-Men besides the movies, but I thought the Deadpool ending was actually kinda cool and I dug the fight on top of the nuclear silo.  The movie was so so....Really dragged for the first 45 minutes or so, but I thought it was cool at the end how they linked up the kids with the man that will never walk and also how Logan lost most of his memories. 

My screening didn't include the ROTF trailer so I'm pretty pissed about that.   >:(
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 2, 2009, 05:20 PM
I saw Wolverine last night, the theater was packed. It was good up until Deadpool came out, I had a flash back to TPM with the fight scene on top of the nuclear silo.  ::)

We sat through the credits & it was Wolverine sitting in a bar and speaking in Japanese saying that he is drinking to remember.

We did get the new Transformers trailer tho.  :P
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sugart on May 2, 2009, 08:49 PM
I know basically nothing of comics or the X-Men besides the movies, but I thought the Deadpool ending was actually kinda cool and I dug the fight on top of the nuclear silo.  The movie was so so....Really dragged for the first 45 minutes or so, but I thought it was cool at the end how they linked up the kids with the man that will never walk and also how Logan lost most of his memories. 

My screening didn't include the ROTF trailer so I'm pretty pissed about that.   >:(

Wow, if I wanted to describe how I feel about this movie, I would say just the exact opposite of what you said. Dont get me wrong I respect your opinion, but they raped Deadpool and the silo so was bad. It felt exactly like the Alcatraz scene from X3. It served no other purpose than basically saying look how cool our ending location is. I basically enjoyed the film up until he gets his claws, after that it went downhill fast. The casting was good, really good actually, but the story and speacial effects were pretty bad. You would think with something with so much source material, they couldnt eff it up. Way to go FOX
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: name on May 2, 2009, 08:50 PM
holy crap, DSJ just absolutely found the solution to the spoiler warning on boards.  Anyone wanting to read can just hit "quote" and read it in the ubb code.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 3, 2009, 02:38 AM
holy crap, DSJ just absolutely found the solution to the spoiler warning on boards.  Anyone wanting to read can just hit "quote" and read it in the ubb code.

Brilliant.

We don't have a spoiler tag code on the forum, guess that's something that needs to be added to the forum program layout.

Forgot to mention, this would only apply to anyone that plays/watches poker, Daniel Negreanu had a cameo. Also 2 twin lady's from Edmonton had a cameo.  :P
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on May 3, 2009, 08:56 AM
My wife and I went yesterday, it was enjoyable for the most part. I'm in no way a Marvel/Wolverine aficionado as far as what was true to the origin story and what wasn't, but there were a few instances that stank of FOX meddling.

When I first saw the Scott Summers was in this I wasn't sure how they were going the explain away them not recognizing each other in X1, but they handled that well enongh. I liked Liev Schreiber's take on Victor, but boy does it make Sabertooth in X1 look even more lame. I really liked the opening credit sequence showing the passage time through all the wars they were involved in. I wish we word have gotten a bit more of that. I did notice Daniel Negreanu right off which was fun.

For me the most groan worthy scene was the Jar Jar-esque fumbling in the old timers bathroom and certain scenes of boiler plate dialogue from various characters that you've heard 1000 times before and deliver better.

As for the ending I saw, it was the Stryker on the road scene. 

Oh, and I got to see the TF2 trailer again - it made me want to touch Megan Fox's butt... again. Do you think she was wearing panties? Me neither.  :D
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on May 3, 2009, 01:19 PM
I had a question, did anyone catch a Stan Lee cameo?  I didn't now that I think about it.

   E...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Ben on May 3, 2009, 01:46 PM
I didn't see one either. All I saw was a exec producer credit at the beginning of the film.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: iFett on May 3, 2009, 04:34 PM
Wow, if I wanted to describe how I feel about this movie, I would say just the exact opposite of what you said. Dont get me wrong I respect your opinion, but they raped Deadpool and the silo so was bad.

I must be easy I suppose - oh and I have no idea who Deadpool is so nothing was raped for me.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 3, 2009, 05:59 PM
I had a question, did anyone catch a Stan Lee cameo?  I didn't now that I think about it.

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Nope. Tho Hugh Jackman confirmed at Comic-Con that Stan Lee had a cameo, Stan Lee, did not make a cameo. This might be due to Wolverine not being created Stan but by Len Wein & John Romita Sr.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 3, 2009, 06:37 PM
'Wolverine' slashes bad reviews for box office win (http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/03/boxoffice.ew/index.html)

$87 million, not to bad eh!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sprry75 on May 3, 2009, 08:24 PM
Loved X-Men and X-Men 2; hated X-Men 3.

Where does this one fall?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on May 3, 2009, 09:28 PM
I had a question, did anyone catch a Stan Lee cameo?  I didn't now that I think about it.

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Nope. Tho Hugh Jackman confirmed at Comic-Con that Stan Lee had a cameo, Stan Lee, did not make a cameo. This might be due to Wolverine not being created Stan but by Len Wein & John Romita Sr.

I just thought that they put Lee in all the Marvel movies. 
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 4, 2009, 07:51 AM
Not all of them, Stan did not make a cameo in X2, Blade Trilogy, Punisher, Ghost Rider & Elektra.

Stan Lee Cameos [Marvel Movies] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO0NsKFJ6gE)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: knashdx on May 4, 2009, 10:43 AM
Possible Wolverine Spoiler...













































































Did anyone else notice that Gambit calls Wolverine Logan? Up to the point where Stryker shoots him he is called Jim or Jimmy by everyone. We had only just seen on one side of Wolverine's tags that it says Logan. So is/was Gambit in on this the whole time working with Stryker?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on May 4, 2009, 04:24 PM
Spoiler answers




















Didn't Gambit make a comment, something to the effect; "Nice dog tags."  When Wolverine sat down at the table?  Maybe he noticed what was on them and the Logan side was out?  Or it could just be a goof in the script or there was an extended part of the scene that got cut.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sugart on May 4, 2009, 05:35 PM
Loved X-Men and X-Men 2; hated X-Men 3.

Where does this one fall?

For me its X2, then X-men, X3, and finally wolervine
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: knashdx on May 4, 2009, 06:44 PM
Loved X-Men and X-Men 2; hated X-Men 3.

Where does this one fall?

For me its X2, then X-men, X3, and finally wolervine

X-2, Wolverine, X-Men, & X3 for me.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on May 4, 2009, 07:08 PM
I initially liked X3 a lot but it hasn't really held up for me.  My ranking of the 4 X-Men based films would be: X2, X-Men, and Wolverine/X3 pretty much equal.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Morgbug on May 4, 2009, 07:34 PM
Lemme know when I can comment about what I didn't like about Deadpool and why I hate Hollywood ;)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: iFett on May 4, 2009, 10:00 PM
Lemme know when I can comment about what I didn't like about Deadpool and why I hate Hollywood ;)

Let it flow Brent....please.  Deadpool/Maul was cool to me, but apparently I'm the only one who feels this way even though I have no idea who he is/was.  This was by no means a fantastic movie, but it's a nice start to the summer flick season.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 5, 2009, 09:40 AM
Lemme know when I can comment about what I didn't like about Deadpool and why I hate Hollywood ;)

Let it flow Brent....please.  Deadpool/Maul was cool to me, but apparently I'm the only one who feels this way even though I have no idea who he is/was.  This was by no means a fantastic movie, but it's a nice start to the summer flick season.

I'm going to check it out on Wednesday.  I think the character sounds cool, but Deadpool is a huge fan favorite from the comics, so radically altering who he is and his story doesn't sit well with his existing fan base.  I'm hoping to see the alt ending with DP - from what I've piece together so far that seems like it does the best job of redeeming the character and setting him up for his own movie more closely tied to the character from the comics.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on May 5, 2009, 09:51 AM
Weren't there two different and opposing Deadpool endings?  What I read was:


I don't know that both of those are confirmed, though.  If the first was real then a spin-off would be easy.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: knashdx on May 5, 2009, 10:32 AM
Weren't there two different and opposing Deadpool endings?  What I read was:

  • Version 1:  Ryan Reynolds walks up and pulls the head of Weapon XI out of the rubble (XI was a clone)
  • Version 2:  Weapon XI's body breaks out of the rubble and recovers his head

I don't know that both of those are confirmed, though.  If the first was real then a spin-off would be easy.


I don't know about version 1, but the movie I saw had version 2 in it. Version 1 would have been better!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on May 5, 2009, 10:35 AM
Wolverine 2 (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/14049/jackman-plans-wolverine-2-more/) will be the samurai storyline
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 5, 2009, 10:36 AM
Weren't there two different and opposing Deadpool endings?  What I read was:

  • Version 1:  Ryan Reynolds walks up and pulls the head of Weapon XI out of the rubble (XI was a clone)
  • Version 2:  Weapon XI's body breaks out of the rubble and recovers his head

I don't know that both of those are confirmed, though.  If the first was real then a spin-off would be easy.

This is the Deadpool ending that sounds like the version 2 you posted:

The Deadpool ending is after credits, the camera pans around the rubble on three mile island. The camera closes up on Deadpool’s hand, his blade retracts and his hand starts moving around the rubble, you see Deadpool’s decapitated head and his hand grabbing at it, suddenly you see his eyes open and whisper “shhh”.

Hmmm, I have reading about the other version "1" but nothing confirmed or video posted.

These are the 2 that have been showing at the end of the credits, spoiler linky.  :P

Before You See Wolverine's Secret Origins, Watch His Secret Endings (http://io9.com/5236369/before-you-see-wolverines-secret-origins-watch-his-secret-endings)

As for Jackman, yeah sounds like a sequel coming in time.

Actor to star in 'Wolverine' sequel (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003176.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&nid=2564)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Morgbug on May 5, 2009, 11:05 AM
Well, I saw version 2 and it irritated the hell out of me.  Version 1 would have been tolerable. 

For what it's worth, this is kinda spoilerish, so.
























What really bothered me was the ending of the movie where Deadpool does indeed grab his head in the rubble and goes 'shhhhhh'.  All through the movie we're lead to believe that pretty much the only way to kill Logan/Jimmy and his brother is by decapitating them.  Fine, I'm good with that.  So then Weapon XI ends up decapitated by Logan and so he can suddenly grab his head at the end of the movie?  Gimme a ******* break.  Yeah, I get the lame contention that "some other mutant power" allowed him to survive, but that's horse**** no matter what.  The healing regeneration schtick is the power from Logan or his brother and that's that.  I really didn't like the BS about Weapon X having all those powers anyway because why in the hell would something that is apparently controlled bother pissing around with swords and other **** when he could just use the Cyclops blasts in the first place?  Oh sure it makes for a longer, more interesting fight, but it's stupid. 

That's probably my greatest pet peeve with Hollywood is when something/someone that should be dead by all rules of logic isn't dead.  Guys in Die Hard being shot with a hundred rounds of machine gun fire suddenly wake up and yell and need to be shot again ::)  Something decapitated manages to live and grab its head.  Gimme a ******' break.  Yeah, it's only a movie but it's stupid. 

The Deadpool thing didn't really bother me all that much other than sort of straying from the comic books by a lot.  I can understand it a fair bit given they were essentially redoing the origin and I haven't read the comic books for a very long time.  But when it went from what I considered to be Deadpool into being Weapon XI it just became pretty stupid overall.  I dunno, probably just too long for me out of the comic world.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on May 5, 2009, 11:31 AM
Was Sabertooth ever Wolverine's brother in the comics?  I didn't think that was ever the case.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 5, 2009, 11:45 AM
Not that I know of.

Wolverine (http://www.comicvine.com/wolverine/29-1440/)
Sabretooth (http://www.comicvine.com/sabretooth/29-4563/)
Origin (comics) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(comics))
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on May 5, 2009, 12:06 PM
Reading the Origins link, it sounds like he might be his half-brother.  I didn't pick up on the whole "groundskeeper was Wolverine's real father" vibe when I read the comics initially.  Apparently neither the groundskeeper nor the plantation owner had Wolverine's healing ability... thought I thought they hinted the plantation owner had claws.  It was a long time ago that I read it, but I thought he said something about revealing a family secret to Wolverine, but he died before he had the chance.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 5, 2009, 12:23 PM
Wolverine (comics) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_(comics))

Sabretooth (comics) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabretooth_(comics))

Dog Logan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Logan)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Morgbug on May 5, 2009, 12:27 PM
I don't remember them ever being related but I stopped reading comics a very long time ago, so they could well have said something in the intervening 15 or so years.  Clearly in the movie there was no healing power involved with respect to Jimmy/Logan's real father.  But I assume they had different mothers based on what is alluded to in the movie, so yeah, half brothers makes sense
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on May 6, 2009, 10:32 AM
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Deadpool’ Solo Movie Confirmed, Ryan Reynolds Attached To ‘Wolverine’ Spin-Off (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/05/exclusive-deadpool-solo-movie-confirmed-ryan-reynolds-attached-to-wolverine-spin-off/)

'Deadpool' spinoff in works at Fox (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i605e3e8798d54f48f94931da65c7b144)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: knashdx on May 6, 2009, 11:04 AM
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Deadpool’ Solo Movie Confirmed, Ryan Reynolds Attached To ‘Wolverine’ Spin-Off (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/05/exclusive-deadpool-solo-movie-confirmed-ryan-reynolds-attached-to-wolverine-spin-off/)

'Deadpool' spinoff in works at Fox (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i605e3e8798d54f48f94931da65c7b144)


My hope is that they say that Weapon XI is a clone in the movie. I really liked Deadpool that Reynold's did. I look forward to this movie as long as they don't **** it up too bad like they did Spider-Man 4.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on May 6, 2009, 11:09 AM
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Deadpool’ Solo Movie Confirmed, Ryan Reynolds Attached To ‘Wolverine’ Spin-Off (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/05/exclusive-deadpool-solo-movie-confirmed-ryan-reynolds-attached-to-wolverine-spin-off/)

'Deadpool' spinoff in works at Fox (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i605e3e8798d54f48f94931da65c7b144)


My hope is that they say that Weapon XI is a clone in the movie. I really liked Deadpool that Reynold's did.

I'm sure that's how they'll explain it considering the rows of clone bodies we saw in Wolverine.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sprry75 on May 6, 2009, 01:02 PM
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Deadpool’ Solo Movie Confirmed, Ryan Reynolds Attached To ‘Wolverine’ Spin-Off (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/05/exclusive-deadpool-solo-movie-confirmed-ryan-reynolds-attached-to-wolverine-spin-off/)

'Deadpool' spinoff in works at Fox (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i605e3e8798d54f48f94931da65c7b144)


My hope is that they say that Weapon XI is a clone in the movie. I really liked Deadpool that Reynold's did. I look forward to this movie as long as they don't **** it up too bad like they did Spider-Man 4.

Spider-Man 4 is already ****** up?  What?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: knashdx on May 6, 2009, 06:16 PM
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Deadpool’ Solo Movie Confirmed, Ryan Reynolds Attached To ‘Wolverine’ Spin-Off (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/05/exclusive-deadpool-solo-movie-confirmed-ryan-reynolds-attached-to-wolverine-spin-off/)

'Deadpool' spinoff in works at Fox (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i605e3e8798d54f48f94931da65c7b144)


My hope is that they say that Weapon XI is a clone in the movie. I really liked Deadpool that Reynold's did. I look forward to this movie as long as they don't **** it up too bad like they did Spider-Man 4.

Spider-Man 4 is already ****** up?  What?

Sorry - I ment SP3
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sprry75 on May 6, 2009, 06:26 PM
Whew.  I have high hopes for SM4 ('cause yeah, SM3 sucked)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 6, 2009, 11:09 PM
Was Sabertooth ever Wolverine's brother in the comics?  I didn't think that was ever the case.

The Wolverine Origins story is pretty similar to the start of the movie.  I haven't read this in a while, but I think it also hinted that they had the same father, different mom. 

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41zWMWcVsfL._SS500_.jpg)

The recent Wolverine comics also suggest that Wolvie, Sabertooth, and other feral marvel heroes are all somehow related to each other through someone called Romulus (http://www.mania.com/wolverine-55_article_55571.html), but they haven't revealed who this is or what the connection is yet.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 6, 2009, 11:12 PM
EXCLUSIVE: ‘Deadpool’ Solo Movie Confirmed, Ryan Reynolds Attached To ‘Wolverine’ Spin-Off (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/05/exclusive-deadpool-solo-movie-confirmed-ryan-reynolds-attached-to-wolverine-spin-off/)

'Deadpool' spinoff in works at Fox (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i605e3e8798d54f48f94931da65c7b144)

YES!  I thought the early Deadpool scenes with Reynolds were awesome - hopefully they'll make this a closer tie to the comics.  Either explain Weapon XI as a clone of him or maybe make this new Deadpool a clone of the original Wade? 
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sprry75 on May 10, 2009, 05:46 AM
I saw Wolverine, and thanks largely to expectations lowered by you guys, didn't mind it that bad.  It was better than X3.  I want to see more Ryan Reynolds as Wade.  He was woefully under used.

Taylor Kitsch sucked as Gambit.  The CGI claws when Logan was in the bathroom were terrible.

I have one spoilerish question, though...why couldn't Victor have tolerated the adamantium fusion?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2009, 09:43 AM
I got a chance to get out and see Wolverine this weekend, and I have to say that I enjoyed it for the most part.  Obviously, my biggest complaint was probably the treatment of Deadpool as well.  I would have rather that just been a clone or some other completely new mutant if that was the route they had to take (having the "ultimate" mutant for the final battle).  That said though, I went to the movie with my best friend, who hasn't ever read a comic in his life, and he didn't seem to have a problem with it at all.  His only knowledge of the X-Men comes from the 90s cartoon and the previous movies, and he wouldn't have known the difference with Deadpool if I hadn't explained it to him afterwards.  From that "general public" point of view, I don't know if it will matter to movie goers.

Overall though, it was a fun summer popcorn movie, and I think I liked it better than "The Last Stand" as far as the X-movies go.  Jackman of course continued to be great as Wolvie, and I thought Ryan Reynolds was perfect as Deadpool/Wade Wilson - particularly in the early part of the movie before all the Weapon XI nonsense.  I'm happy to hear that he's likely getting his own movie, that could be really good.  I actually thought Taylor Kitsch was pretty good as Gambit, and it was cool to see him included in the flick.  Although there were a crazy amount of cameos, I can't say it wasn't cool to see some of them included.  Overall, a pretty good movie, I'll definitely be grabbing the DVD (or blu ray if we have it by then).
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 11, 2009, 01:24 PM
I saw Wolverine, and thanks largely to expectations lowered by you guys, didn't mind it that bad.  It was better than X3.  I want to see more Ryan Reynolds as Wade.  He was woefully under used.

Taylor Kitsch sucked as Gambit.  The CGI claws when Logan was in the bathroom were terrible.

I have one spoilerish question, though...why couldn't Victor have tolerated the adamantium fusion?

Definitely wanted to see more of Ryan’s Deadpool.  They could explain away the Weapon XI thing any number of ways, so I hope they figure out a storyline gets us a full movie based on the earlier representation of Deadpool. 

Can’t believe you didn’t like the Gambit performance.  I thought he was pretty spot on.  I didn’t really get some of his motivation (Why did he attack Wolverine when Wolvie was beating up Sabertooth?  Why didn’t he get on the chopper at the end?  Why wasn’t he asked to join the X-babies?), but I thought it was a good representation of what I remember from the comics.

My take on the Sabertooth/Stryker conversation about Sabertooth not being able to take the admantium treatment was that Stryker was lying.  The process makes the subject nearly invincible – not a good idea given Sabertooth’s morals.  Wolverine was meant to be a test and Weapon XI should have been 100% under control.  If Stryker gave it to Sabertooth, Sabertooth no longer needs him so worst case Stryker gets killed and best case he has an ever stronger, harder-to-kill maniac on his hands.  On the flip side, if he strings Sabertooth along with promises that it will work, Sabertooth does all of his dirty work and stays in check.  He only told Sabertooth he couldn’t do it at the end because Weapon XI was about ready, so Stryker wouldn’t need Sabertooth anymore.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sprry75 on May 11, 2009, 02:40 PM
My take on the Sabertooth/Stryker conversation about Sabertooth not being able to take the admantium treatment was that Stryker was lying.  The process makes the subject nearly invincible – not a good idea given Sabertooth’s morals.  Wolverine was meant to be a test and Weapon XI should have been 100% under control.  If Stryker gave it to Sabertooth, Sabertooth no longer needs him so worst case Stryker gets killed and best case he has an ever stronger, harder-to-kill maniac on his hands.  On the flip side, if he strings Sabertooth along with promises that it will work, Sabertooth does all of his dirty work and stays in check.  He only told Sabertooth he couldn’t do it at the end because Weapon XI was about ready, so Stryker wouldn’t need Sabertooth anymore.

Interesting.  I also watched X2 again last night, and in it Stryker said something that kind of speaks to the issue.  When he's about to unleash Deathstryke on Wolverine, he says something like "I always thought you were one of a kind...but I was wrong;" and then Deathstryke shoots out her claws.  By then, though, Stryker's got the Jason serum that's giving him more control.  Perhaps he would have used Sabretooth the same way, if he'd had the serum...

Huh.

I guess I just didn't buy Kitsch as Gambit because all I saw was Tim Riggins from Friday Night Lights.  He kept losing the Nawlins accent and going back to Texan.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 12, 2009, 10:22 PM
I guess I just didn't buy Kitsch as Gambit because all I saw was Tim Riggins from Friday Night Lights.  He kept losing the Nawlins accent and going back to Texan.

Ah, that makes sense.   I've never seen the show, so he's new to me, but I know what you mean about seeing an actor as a previous character.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on September 18, 2009, 10:53 AM
Sounds like the actor who played Cyclops in X-Men Origins: Wolverine has spilled via his Twitter account that X-Men: First Class (http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=8696) will start filming in 2010 (he will be reprising his role).  Although it won't necessarily be the same, I am glad they are getting a new X-Men team movie off the ground.  I really enjoyed X-Men and X2, it is too bad Singer left prior to X-Men 3.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sugart on September 18, 2009, 04:02 PM
As long as FOX has the rights, it will suck like the last 2 films( X3 and Wolverine). It really can only be Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast and Storm.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on September 18, 2009, 04:04 PM
Wonder if Kelsey Grammer will play a non-furry Beast...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on September 18, 2009, 04:12 PM
I'd be surprised.  I think they'll probably go with an all-younger cast, a la using Cyclops from X-Men Origins: Wolverine.  They haven't said who is included character-wise otherwise, but I'm wondering if we'll see the lineup of Cyclops/Jean Grey/Iceman/Angel/Beast or not.  I guess it could be a "re-start" of sorts for the X-Men franchise as well, as they could keep going with this younger cast and add in characters as they go (similar to the comics).
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on September 18, 2009, 04:58 PM
But if FOX is doing this film, how many Marvel characters would they actually have access to?  Only those shown in the first three films?  Fewer?  I don't think Marvel and Disney are going to let FOX dip any further into the pool of characters, especially if they think they'll ever use any of them in a future project.

I would think Cyclops/Jean Grey/Beast/Iceman would be available to them, but would they go with Storm?  I would like to see them use Angel instead, even though he wasn't introduced until the 3rd X-Men film.  A film with the original five would be cool.

   E...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jim on September 18, 2009, 10:05 PM
This new X-Men flick has crapfest written all over it IMO.  The X-Men Universe has been so badly botched with most characters appearing in their wrong respected timelines.  These non continuity films are made more for the casual non comic reader IMO.

I just hope they can do some justice with the Wolverin/Japan storyline.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on September 19, 2009, 01:25 AM
Wonder if Kelsey Grammer will play a non-furry Beast...

I think they would have to totally recast the role of Beast.  And I'd definitely like to see him in his pre-fur days.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on December 17, 2009, 03:15 AM
Bryan Singer Will Direct X-Men: First Class!  (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=61682)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on December 17, 2009, 10:46 AM
Bryan Singer Will Direct X-Men: First Class!  (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=61682)

I just read that this morning as well.  Great news, I think.  I know opinions sort of vary on Singer's work (Superman Returns wasn't too great for many), but I thought the first two X-Men movies were very well done and I look forward to seeing him return to that universe.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on March 21, 2010, 01:52 AM
What other film could keep Bryan Singer from directing 'X-Men: First Class'? (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/exclusive-bryan-singer-directing-x-men-first-class-not-so-fast)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on March 21, 2010, 05:21 AM
You know what, **** Bryan Singer.  He did a great job IMO on X-Men and X2 but when he bailed on X3, which sucked, to do Superman (which also sucked) I lost all interest in seeing him attached to another X project.

And to also know that he's attached to this "reimagining" of Battlestar Galactica, after we spent 5 seasons with an absolutely incredible television series?  ****'im.

   E...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on May 5, 2010, 10:34 AM
So is First Class going to be a lower-budget deal?  2011 seems pretty soon given they haven't done any pre-production work or casting.  I can't imagine a ton of effects work getting done in that timespan.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on May 28, 2010, 10:14 AM
The first casting news (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/101706-james-mcavoy-cast-as-professor-xavier?cpage=10#written_comments_title) for X-Men: First Class, with James McEvoy (Wanted/Mr. Tumnus in Chronicles of Narnia) apparently playing Professor X.  They must be going quite a bit younger with this prequel.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 28, 2010, 10:45 AM
The first casting news (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/101706-james-mcavoy-cast-as-professor-xavier?cpage=10#written_comments_title) for X-Men: First Class, with James McEvoy (Wanted/Mr. Tumnus in Chronicles of Narnia) apparently playing Professor X.  They must be going quite a bit younger with this prequel.

If I remember correctly, at the end of Wolverine Origins, Xavier showed up to talk to Scott, and Xavier was already looking a little older.  Actually, wasn't it Patrick Stewart from the first 3 movies?  I could be wrong.

And I think 1st Class is supposed to pickup where Origins left off.  So I don't know why they wouldn't just use Stewart again.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sprry75 on May 30, 2010, 10:08 AM
The first casting news (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/101706-james-mcavoy-cast-as-professor-xavier?cpage=10#written_comments_title) for X-Men: First Class, with James McEvoy (Wanted/Mr. Tumnus in Chronicles of Narnia) apparently playing Professor X.  They must be going quite a bit younger with this prequel.

If I remember correctly, at the end of Wolverine Origins, Xavier showed up to talk to Scott, and Xavier was already looking a little older.  Actually, wasn't it Patrick Stewart from the first 3 movies?  I could be wrong.

And I think 1st Class is supposed to pickup where Origins left off.  So I don't know why they wouldn't just use Stewart again.

I thought the make-up/CG whatever on Stewart was okay for the Wolverine movie, but I can see how that might not carry for an entire feature.  But if they're going to recast, why not get somebody  a little older?  McAvoy is 31 years old...are we going to see a nine year old Cyclops?  WTF?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on June 11, 2010, 12:00 PM
Reportedly, Michael Fassbender (Inglorious Basterds) has two offers to choose from - Magneto in X-Men: First Class, or the villain in the new Spider-Man (possibly the Lizard (http://movies.ign.com/articles/109/1096467p1.html).
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on August 21, 2010, 10:59 AM
So, lots of details revealed (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46217) on next year's X-Men: First Class, straight from Bryan Singer himself.  Not sure about this one, definitely different than what we've seen before.  I won't post it here, depending on how spoiler sensitive people are....but there are differences with the cast, timeline, uniforms, team members, and more.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Hemish on August 22, 2010, 07:52 AM
I dunno about this one.
Leaving those characters out sounds like a mistake to me, specially if it is first class?
I like the idea of the setting though, I guess only time will tell
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: evenflow on August 24, 2010, 01:23 PM
Doesnt sound exciting at all to me.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on August 24, 2010, 02:00 PM
Doesnt sound exciting at all to me.

Yeah, me neither, at least from what we've heard so far.  I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for now, as they haven't even started filming yet as far as I know, but it doesn't sound great.  Hopefully this won't be too spoilery for some people, but why have a "fresh start" (which it sounds like what Singer/Fox wants it to be) with a film called "First Class" and not have characters like Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, etc. in it (or really, hardly anyone recognizable).  Sure, of the characters listed/cast so far, many fans know who they are, but I really think that you have to have someone the "general audience" can recognize.  Aside from Prof X (who will have hair, and walk) and Magneto, it doesn't sound like you'll have much of that here.  Like I said, I'll wait and see - and the time period and possibility of more comic like costumes could be cool - but if they were going to essentially reboot the X-Men, I think it was a good chance to start with the real (comic book) first class - or a close grouping - and build from there.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on October 20, 2010, 09:50 AM
This may be a little under the radar with all the comic book movie news lately, but it looks like Darren Aronofsky will be directing the upcoming Wolverine sequel.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on November 15, 2010, 11:50 AM
A little under the radar with all the superhero movie stuff coming up before this one (Thor, GL, Cap, etc.), but it appears Darren Aronofsky has announced (http://movies.ign.com/articles/113/1134208p1.html) that the title of the next Wolverine movie is simply, "The Wolverine", and that it will be a one off and not connected to the X-Men films or X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on November 15, 2010, 01:42 PM
Maybe it's not that nobody noticed, maybe nobody cares?  This next Wolverine film is going to  have to come a long way back after the last one.  There were parts of that film that I liked, but overall, it kind of sucked.  This will have to be a lot better to even get me interested.

   E...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on November 16, 2010, 01:36 PM
Yeah, although it did decent money, it doesn't seem like X-Men Origins: Wolverine is too well received overall.  It was sort of hit and miss for me, I liked some parts but overall it wasn't too great.  I am glad they are giving the Wolverine solo movie another try though, and hopefully this self-contained story will be a good one.  Definitely lower on my radar with the other stuff on the way (Cap, GL, Thor, Spidey reboot, Dark Knight Rises, Avengers, etc.), but glad it is getting made.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on January 18, 2011, 02:32 PM
First look (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=28247) of the main cast (in costume) from X-Men: First Class.  A bit shadowy to see too much, but it gives you an idea of what things will look like.

(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/xfc2.jpg)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on January 18, 2011, 02:45 PM
Can anyone name them all?

Emma Frost's outfit certainly looks... supportive.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on January 18, 2011, 03:43 PM
Can anyone name them all?

Emma Frost's outfit certainly looks... supportive.

No.  But you can spot Beast and Mystique easily enough, along with Emma.  And I know that James MacAvoy is the Professor so he's easy to spot on the end.  I guess that makes the dude in front of Emma, Magneto then.  And Rose Byrne, in green, gets you your Star Wars connection for the film, but I'd have to look her up to see who she's playing.

And yes, that outfit does look supportive.  January Jones is a hot girl and that outfit hits all the right curves.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 18, 2011, 04:29 PM
Looks like the following...

Magneto - Moira - White Queen - Darwin? - Beast - Havok - Angel (as a chick) - Mystique - Professor X

Darwin is the only one I'm not too sure of.  Keep in mind they have to eliminate characters that were too young or introduced in the other movies, so no nightcrawler, colossus, wolverine, etc.  I read that Havok and Angel would be in it, so must be those two.  I thought I read Banshee was in here too - maybe that 4th guy from the left is a revamped Banshee?  I'm surprised there is no Cyclops or Marvel Girl - they always seemed like the foundation of the X-Men to me, but seems like those two are pretty well snubbed in the movies.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on January 18, 2011, 04:40 PM
Isn't Havok, aka Alex Summers, supposed to be younger than Scott Summers?  Maybe this film should be X-Factor: The Wonder Years rather than X-Men.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: McMetal on January 18, 2011, 08:12 PM
We've finally crossed over the threshold of the Abyss..COMIC BOOK EU!!!

 :-X
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 18, 2011, 09:50 PM
Angel (as a chick)

Wait wait wait.  Wait.  They're makin Warren Worthington a chick for this movie?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 18, 2011, 11:19 PM
We've finally crossed over the threshold of the Abyss..COMIC BOOK EU!!!

 :-X

Not really.  Find me any movie adaption of a comic that doesn't diverge from the original storyline in some way.  Iron Man was one of the most faithful IMO, and that put the creation of the suit in the wrong war, erased 200 issues of plot to bring about Iron Monger, and made Obadiah into Stark's business partner instead of an industry competitor that aggressively takes over the company. 

As for Warren Worthington III, that Angel already appeared in X-Men: The Last Stand, played by Ben Foster.  If I recall, they showed him as a kid in that movie as well, so there's no way he would have been born when Xavier and Magneto were in their 20's.  It also wouldn't make sense from a plot perspective since he's not even an X-Men in the later films.

I'd rather they just went without an Angel, but I do appreciate Marvel's dedication to continuity in their flicks.  I'd rather have something of an alternate Marvel Universe in the movies than multiple movies selling completely different plot lines for the same character.  I really like the way they are drawing the Avengers together by running origin movies for each character seperately and it's kind of nice to see the sense of continuity maintained for X-Men as well.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 19, 2011, 05:54 AM
Apparently the Angel in this movie is this one. (http://marvel.com/universe/Angel_(Angel_Salvadore))

The red guy might be Nightcrawler's father.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: McMetal on January 19, 2011, 09:28 AM
Not really.  Find me any movie adaption of a comic that doesn't diverge from the original storyline in some way. 

Yeah, but that's a whole other can of worms. I'm talking about comics rewriting their own history, which as a longtime Silver/Golden Age Purist I find abhorrent.

The original X-Men, in the oh-so-darling blue and yellow geek suits,
were Cyclops, the Angel, the Beast, Iceman, and Marvel Girl.

I have no idea who those schmoes in the photo are. They ain't the "first class" by a long shot though...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on January 19, 2011, 09:41 AM
Apparently the Angel in this movie is this one. (http://marvel.com/universe/Angel_(Angel_Salvadore))

Wow, that's a pretty ridiculous sounding character if it's the one they go with in the film.  I don't really want to see an egg laying, acid spitting, fly girl (and not a Wayans in sight).

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 19, 2011, 01:43 PM
Quote from: McMetal link=topic=9954.msg498714#msg498714

 
The original X-Men, in the oh-so-darling blue and yellow geek suits,
were Cyclops, the Angel, the Beast, Iceman, and Marvel Girl.

I have no idea who those schmoes in the photo are. They ain't the "first class" by a long shot though...

Completely 100% agree.  Maybe Xavier made this his X-Mansion mailroom crew, and they're handling all of the "first class" mail.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 20, 2011, 05:03 PM
A glimmer of hope... (http://www.marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=13784)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on February 10, 2011, 08:51 PM
The first trailer for X-Men: First Class (http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/02/10/first-x-men-first-class-trailer-arrives/) is up.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on February 10, 2011, 09:26 PM
Wait.  They've inserted the X-Men into the Cuban Missile Crisis? 


REALLY?!?!?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on March 29, 2011, 07:36 PM
Deadpool (http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2011/03/29/deadpool-is-an-irreverent-reboot-that-ignores-or-mocks-wolverine) reboot?  Yes, please.

Also, X-Men 4?  Meh.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on April 27, 2011, 02:15 PM
New X-Men: First Class (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/x-men-first-class.html?showVideo=1#belowNav) trailer is up at Yahoo Movies.  I have to say, at first I was disappointed that a movie titled "First Class" wasn't including Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, and Angel (although Beast is in there), after seeing a couple trailers it does look like it could be pretty cool.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on April 27, 2011, 04:34 PM
New X-Men: First Class (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/x-men-first-class.html?showVideo=1#belowNav) trailer is up at Yahoo Movies.  I have to say, at first I was disappointed that a movie titled "First Class" wasn't including Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, and Angel (although Beast is in there), after seeing a couple trailers it does look like it could be pretty cool.

The new trailer looks pretty rad.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on April 27, 2011, 05:38 PM
Seeing some of the old school X-Men characters in the mix is definitely good.  Beast, Mystique and Banshee were pretty easy to pick out.  And the story point of Magneto with the Soviet sub is something that was a big deal in the comics in the 1980's, even if it was completely unrelated to this sort of story line.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on June 3, 2011, 03:19 AM
Just saw X-Men: First Class.  Pretty good movie.  Interesting origin story, decent action, ****-ton of cameos...I'd go see another X-film based around these actors and the earlier timeframe to the previous movies.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on June 3, 2011, 11:06 AM
I hope to catch it sometime this weekend, but we'll see. It seems like the majority of the reviews I have read for this have been overwhelmingly positive, with some even comparing it to the Dark Knight.  I haven't seen it, so that may be a stretch for many, but it is good to hear that it is a solid X-Men movie.  I still sort of wish they would have went with the First Class from the comics, but it sounds like many don't feel this way as much after seeing the new movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on June 3, 2011, 02:44 PM
I don't know about comparing it to the Dark Knight, but there were some darker moments to the film than previous X-Men films.  Magneto going off during the first third of the film, for example, was pretty impressive.

Shaw was also probably the most evil villain of the 4 X-Men films.

It was interesting to see McAvoy play a more lighthearted Xavier when compared to Stewart's take.  Although, I still think Stewart was the perfect choice for Professor X for those films.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Ben on June 5, 2011, 05:06 PM
Saw X-Men: First Class this weekend. I think I liked this more than even the first two X-Men films.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on June 5, 2011, 06:08 PM
Saw it as well and thought it was pretty awesome.  It was a tough sell without Wolverine or anybody recognizable.  Kevin Bacon was pretty great, but Magneto stole the show.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 5, 2011, 08:17 PM
I saw X-Men: First Class last night and I thought it was FANTASTIC.

Much better than X3, better than the first X-Men movie as well. I would have to say on-par with the second X-Men movie which I still consider one of the better superhero movies out there.

Has anyone heard if they're planning on having this kick off a new trilogy or is this a one-and-out kind of thing for the franchise? I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel to this at all if they can keep the quality up.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on June 5, 2011, 08:52 PM
If it does well the plan is to continue with this cast through a series of movies.  That'll also stop any work on an X-Men 4 movie with the original cast.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: evenflow on June 5, 2011, 11:56 PM
I saw it last night, it was alright, wasnt fantastic, wasnt terrible.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on June 6, 2011, 11:57 AM
I saw First Class this weekend as well, and thought it was pretty amazing.  I'm a big fan of X2, so I think I might still put that ahead of it, but otherwise it is right up there with the best of this franchise.  Although I had absolutely no problem with the characters included, I still would have rather they just went true "First Class" with it and had Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, Beast, and Angel (or at least something somewhat close).  It seems to toe the line between reboot and prequel, as some things fit and some things don't, but I thought it was a very good movie.  Magneto (Michael Fassbender) in particular was pretty awesome.  I've seen in some interviews that Matthew Vaughn (the director) mentioned that in a possibly sequel he would keep the cast mostly the same and maybe only add one new character that could "match up" well with Magneto.  We shall see.  It didn't exactly do gangbusters at the box office, but I didn't really expect that it would.  It seems like it almost has to "start fresh" the way Batman Begins did with the Bat franchise - and that movie, as great as it was/is - was at $205m for its domestic run, which many consider low (before blowing up on DVD, into Dark Knight, etc.)  Anyways...First Class, good movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on June 6, 2011, 10:52 PM
I've seen in some interviews that Matthew Vaughn (the director) mentioned that in a possibly sequel he would keep the cast mostly the same and maybe only add one new character that could "match up" well with Magneto.  We shall see. 

I would have to think he might be referring to Polaris.  She was one of the early X-Men additions from the 1960's.  Her story &  powers tie in with Magneto.  And there's her link with Havok, too.

I'm planning on seeing the movie tomorrow.  I've had mixed feelings about it, too.  Mostly because the true first class isn't getting examined.  And then to mix the Hellfire Club storyline in with this group?  I'm going to try to let the movie stand on it's own merits.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Diddly on June 16, 2011, 10:59 PM
Saw X-Men today... loved it. Someone on Facebook said it was Marvel's version of The Dark Knight which I figured had to be an exaggeration. Don't think it was at TDK's level but it was an awesome flick.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on September 26, 2011, 12:50 AM
Just caught X-Men: First Class over the weekend. Continuity issues and the Austin Powers fembot-esque acting style of January Jones aside, this was a fabulous movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on September 28, 2011, 11:49 AM
I just re-watched First Class this past weekend as well after seeing it in the theaters earlier this summer.  Just a really well made movie overall.  When it was announced, and the character lineup was revealed, I really had reservations and wasn't sure how much I cared to see it.  But, although I still would have liked to see the comics version First Class characters included, I was really impressed with how good it was.  Magneto in particular steals the show I think.  The continuity is all out of whack with the other movies, but I sort of take it as a reboot anyways and hope they continue on with this cast/world (and eventually include some of the classics like Cyclops, Jean Grey, etc.)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on August 2, 2012, 02:14 PM
Sounds like Bryan Singer himself has confirmed that the X-Men: First Class sequel will be titled "Days of Future Past" and at least loosely based on that storyline from the comics.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/02/x-men-first-class-sequel-news-what-is-days-of-future-past (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/02/x-men-first-class-sequel-news-what-is-days-of-future-past)

Obviously, I'm sure it will be significantly different from the comic story, but it does allow them to link up with the other movies (and possibly cast) if they want to.  It definitely leaves them an out to bring in Hugh Jackman to this universe which is sort of/not really a reboot I guess.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: EdSolo on August 2, 2012, 03:02 PM
Actually they already brought in Hugh Jackman in the last movie.  When Charles and Eric are going around recruiting, there is a cameo by Jackman where he tells them to f*** off.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Phrubruh on August 2, 2012, 04:08 PM
That scene made the movie for me.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on August 2, 2012, 08:58 PM
I loved that cameo as well, I was just thinking he could have more of a role in the next movie if they went with a Day of Future Past storyline.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on August 2, 2012, 10:00 PM
I read about the Days of Future Past storyline in the past few days.  That was easily my favorite X-Men storyline of all time, and I've always felt a good degree of attachment to it.  But are we bound to see some significant changes to that particular story in order to make it work on screen?

Ellen Page has definitely come into her own as an actor since she played Kitty Pryde in X-Men: The Last Stand.  Will she and Wolverine still be the central characters in the movie adaptation?  And then there's the matter of the relationships.

There's clearly a continuity that's been established by the previous films that diverges from the books.  The film interpretation of the Phoenix storyline had to be scaled back tremendously.  But this story dealt with someone travelling from the future to the past in order to change the course of history.  How do you accomplish that in the movie and make it work?  That remains to be seen.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on August 2, 2012, 10:09 PM
As Brian reported, the sequel will be "loosely based" on that storyline.  I'm sure they will need to make significant changes, just like First Class was a big departure from the comic origins.  I think it's a great direction for the franchise if they can make it work.  Really, all they need to do is adopt "The Terminator" blueprint, which should be even easier with an established cast.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on September 27, 2012, 08:51 PM
Fox has announced that Mark Millar (Civil War, the Ultimates, Kick Ass, Wanted, etc.) has been hired as a creative consultant on their Marvel franchises (X-men, Fantastic Four)

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/27/mark-millar-to-guide-x-men-fantastic-four-movies (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/27/mark-millar-to-guide-x-men-fantastic-four-movies)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on October 24, 2012, 03:17 PM
A trailer for The Wolverine appears to be coming soon.  This teaser (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWolverineMovie) was posted to YouTube a couple of days ago, and it sounds like promotion for this movie is about to ramp up.

Does anyone think that we're going to see a toy line for this movie that's similar to what we saw for the first solo Wolverine movie?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on February 15, 2013, 11:40 AM
I hadn't seen any posts on it recently, but there has been a lot of stuff coming out about the upcoming X-Men: Days of Future Past movie due next summer.  Peter Dinklage is on board as the "primary antagonist", and much of the casts from the previous movies are returning including:

James McEvoy/Patrick Stewart (Prof X)
Michael Fassbender/Ian McKellen (Magneto)
Hugh Jackman (Wolverine)
Nicholas Hoult (Beast)
Ellen Page (Kitty Pryde)
Shawn Ashmore (Iceman)
Jennifer Lawrence (Mystique)
Anna Paquin (Rogue)
Lucas Till (Havok)
Caleb Jones (Banshee)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on February 15, 2013, 11:44 AM
I haven't heard anything about that, but should make a great story.  I still haven't taken time to watch First Class...   :-[
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on February 15, 2013, 12:12 PM
I wonder if Dinklage is just going to voice a member of the Brotherhood who's entirely CG.  He doesn't seem to quite fit in with any established DoFP characters.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on February 15, 2013, 12:24 PM
For diversity reasons Apocalypse is now a little person.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on February 15, 2013, 12:47 PM
Puck!  (An old-school Alpha Flight fanboy can dream, right?)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on February 15, 2013, 01:03 PM
Hmmm.  Primary antagonist?  Given the storyline of DOFP, I would think that Dinklage might be voice acting.  The Sentinels are the primary antagonists in the future part of that story.  Is it possible that they might introduce a character like Master Mold as the guiding force of the Sentinels in the future?

***EDIT - According to THIS ARTICLE (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=74335), Dinklage is likely to be playing Bolivar Trask, the scientist who invented the Sentinels.


The story definitely becomes more complicated with how the movie storyline has dealt with Cyclops, Jean Grey, et al.

BTW, Qui-Gon Jim...love the Puck idea!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: evenflow on February 15, 2013, 06:00 PM
I think he would make an awesome Apocalypse. Would love to see that.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 4, 2013, 10:51 AM
Storm returning for Days of Future Past (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2287891/I-excited-Halle-Berry-confirms-reprising-role-Storm-X-Men-Days-Of-Future-Past.html)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on March 4, 2013, 12:45 PM
Great news. I was disappointed she didn't reprise her Catwoman role in The Dark Knight Rises.   :D
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on March 4, 2013, 06:08 PM
I'm not terribly surprised.  Halle Berry's star has fallen somewhat.  She's done some great work over the years, but it seems like she's not so much the darling of casting directors that she was 10 years ago.  And perhaps she's not getting the offers that she used to get?  I think that made casting her in this new X-Men project that much easier.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 4, 2013, 07:00 PM
She's also over 45 now, as much as she doesn't look it.  Most actresses can't get a role past 30, so it's pretty normal that she wouldn't be getting leading roles at this stage in her career.  Also she had a kid and ended a marriage over the last few years, so she's been doing some real life stuff that kept her out of movies.  Looking at IMDB she's still playing lead once or twice a year the past few years.  I wouldn't say her star has fallen, as much as her career has evolved.  And I doubt she's desperate for a supporting X-role.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on March 27, 2013, 08:49 PM
First trailer for July's "The Wolverine" is up today:

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/thewolverine/ (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/thewolverine/)

Looks pretty good so far.  From what I understand they are pretty much pretending X-Men Origins: Wolverine never happened, so I don't think this story has any relation to that one.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: evenflow on March 27, 2013, 09:05 PM
International trailer looks even cooler. looking forward to it.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on May 21, 2013, 10:07 AM
New trailer for the Wolverine is up today - glimpse of Silver Samurai:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=79978 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=79978)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 21, 2013, 10:51 AM
Looks good.  Can't be worse than the last film.  Blech.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: name on May 21, 2013, 12:02 PM
Looks good enough for me. J
ackman was born to play wolverine
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Phrubruh on May 21, 2013, 12:38 PM
It's hard to see Wolverine without Jackman. I also like the fact that Wolverine can sing.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 21, 2013, 12:54 PM
Looks good enough for me. Jackman was born to play wolverine

+1
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: McMetal on May 22, 2013, 09:53 AM
LOL, I seem to recall there was a LOT of backlash against that casting when originally announced.

I really wanted to see Glenn Danzig get a shot too, but what are ya gonna do?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 22, 2013, 02:44 PM
LOL, I seem to recall there was a LOT of backlash against that casting when originally announced.

Seriously?  I don't recall that at all.  He looks exactly what I would have expected Wolvie to look like.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on May 23, 2013, 12:16 AM
IIRC everybody wanted a short, stacked guy with a bad attitude to play Wolverine and here comes Jackman, who wasn't exactly jacked up before the role, and he's like 6'2", and he was more famous for doing theater at the time.

He didn't really jump off the casting page as the type of guy you'd cast in that part.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on May 23, 2013, 05:55 AM
Physically, Hugh Jackman didn't really match up with the image of Wolverine for the first X-Men.  In fact, he wasn't the first choice for the role.  That had actually been Dougray Scott (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0779084/?ref_=sr_1).  But somewhere along the way the role of Wolverine got recast, and as a result Jackman has essentially been carrying the franchise.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on May 23, 2013, 08:22 AM
They should've gotten Tom Cruise.  :D

Iceman: "You! You're dangerous...you can be my X-Man any time!"
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: McMetal on May 23, 2013, 12:50 PM
IIRC everybody wanted a short, stacked guy with a bad attitude to play Wolverine and here comes Jackman, who wasn't exactly jacked up before the role, and he's like 6'2", and he was more famous for doing theater at the time.

He didn't really jump off the casting page as the type of guy you'd cast in that part.

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Right, this was my recollection as well. Man, that was a LONG time ago...

I do recall a lot of people wanted Danzig, who would have been awesome but who knows whether the dude can act. Jackman was largely an unknown at that time I believe.

He's made the role his own though, hard to imagine anyone else doing it now. I give him props for a job well done.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 23, 2013, 04:07 PM
IIRC everybody wanted a short, stacked guy with a bad attitude to play Wolverine and here comes Jackman, who wasn't exactly jacked up before the role, and he's like 6'2", and he was more famous for doing theater at the time.

He didn't really jump off the casting page as the type of guy you'd cast in that part.

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I'd argue that anybody basing casting judegements off of height in this day and age is a moron.  They easily make tall guys look short and a midget look like the tallest guy in the room.  I think Jackman's facial expressions and overall look made him a clear choice from the start, but maybe I was in the minority with that opinion. 

I definitely can't see anyone else playing that role as well now.  Just like Iron Man - I can't imagine anyone could outdo Downey's take on Stark, whereas the guys who've played Spiderman or Batman seem far more interchangeable.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on May 23, 2013, 05:01 PM
So Bryan Singer tweeted that Quicksilver is going to be in the next X-Men movie. I know that this had come up earlier, but hadn't we also heard that Joss Whedon was going to be putting Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch in the next installment of Avengers?  WTF?!?!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2013, 08:53 PM
From what I understand, Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch are under some sort of strange rights agreement where they can both use them in their respective movies.  However, Marvel can't currently mention anything about them being mutants, having Magneto for a father, etc.  It will be interesting to see if Whedon still uses them going forward, or how different they will be.  Fox does seem like the type to just include Quicksilver to be a pain in Disney/Marvel's rear though.  I know that they tried to work out a deal to have Wolverine/Hugh Jackman cameo in the Cap war sequences in Captain America, but Fox said no.

UPDATE: More on this...http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80162 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80162)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on May 24, 2013, 12:09 AM
These are two seperate universes in my mind - I could care less.  Just like I don't care that Cap looks exactly like the Human Torch.  The only bummer here is the lost opportunity to bring the franchises together.  If they used the same actor somehow, that would have been a cool link for Marvel fans, but oh well.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on May 24, 2013, 09:26 AM
Physically, Hugh Jackman didn't really match up with the image of Wolverine for the first X-Men.  In fact, he wasn't the first choice for the role.  That had actually been Dougray Scott (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0779084/?ref_=sr_1).  But somewhere along the way the role of Wolverine got recast, and as a result Jackman has essentially been carrying the franchise.

Dougray Scott was originally cast as Wolverine but he couldn't do it because he was tied up with Mission Impossible II.

I'd argue that anybody basing casting judegements off of height in this day and age is a moron.  They easily make tall guys look short and a midget look like the tallest guy in the room.  I think Jackman's facial expressions and overall look made him a clear choice from the start, but maybe I was in the minority with that opinion. 

I don't disagree, but you know how comic geeks are, they want the movies to be exactly like the comics until they don't...which usually only happens if the movie ends up exceeding their expectations.

I think Jackman has done an excellent job as Wolverine, don't get me wrong, but he didn't necessarily stand out as an obvious choice the first time.  Unlike Downey as Stark, though, I think Jackman could be replaced as Wolverine at some point.  It's harder for me to picture someone else in Downey's role, though.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on July 21, 2013, 07:52 AM
Dinklage playing Bolivar Trask in X-Men (http://www.hypable.com/2013/07/18/x-men-days-of-future-past-official-logo-images-of-sentinels/)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on July 21, 2013, 08:35 AM
Bryan Singer tweeted this photo yesterday (https://twitter.com/BryanSinger/status/358752198794031104/photo/1) from the X-Men:  Days of Future Past panel yesterday.  Reportedly, the whole cast was on hand for this panel & photo.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sprry75 on July 28, 2013, 09:06 AM
Saw The Wolverine; it's really good.  The Silver Samurai looked a little phoney, but other than that, a really sold movie.  Almost more like an old fashioned noir-detective movie set in Japan than a whiz-bang comic book movie.

And the post-credits scene is awesome.  Worth the price of admission alone
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on July 28, 2013, 09:33 AM
I cheated and watched the post credits scene online. Rather do that than have it spoiled in case I don't get around to seeing the movie.

Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on July 29, 2013, 09:23 AM
Saw The Wolverine; it's really good.  The Silver Samurai looked a little phoney, but other than that, a really sold movie.  Almost more like an old fashioned noir-detective movie set in Japan than a whiz-bang comic book movie.

And the post-credits scene is awesome.  Worth the price of admission alone
I liked it too.  I was really into X-Men, Avengers and Spidey in the 80's, and sort of fell out of collecting during the time period where this arc was published, so I can't say that any deviation from the source is good or bad, but I did think the film was very good.  In fact, I think they should have just gone with a less super-technological version of the Silver Samurai and it would been near perfect.  I think a guy in a, well, silver samurai costume would have fit the tone of the film better. 

That after-credits scene was incredible.  No schwarma jokes here.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on July 29, 2013, 06:27 PM
I didn't love it or hate it.  I thought it was good but didn't completely live up to the potential that was there.  I thought Logan dealing with Jean's death was better done than Tony Stark's anxiety attacks in IM3 and thought it did some good things for his character.

I liked most of the fights and action but there were a few times where I didn't feel like the director let the actors and choreography work, too many quick cuts that distracted more than anything.

The scene during the credits blew me away!  I can not wait for the next X-Men movie after that.  I would recommend going to see it.  If you like Jackman as Wolverine I think you'll really love this movie.  I felt like there was more for Jackman to do with the character this time around, it wasn't all berserker rage.

I did write a review if anyone is interested: The Wolverine (http://imperialholocron.com/the-wolverine/)

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Brian on October 24, 2013, 08:51 PM
Much like Captain America did, there is a new teaser for the teaser trailer up for X-Men: Days of Future Past.  The full trailer goes up next Tuesday I believe:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/24/watch-a-teaser-for-the-x-men-days-of-future-past-trailer (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/24/watch-a-teaser-for-the-x-men-days-of-future-past-trailer)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on October 29, 2013, 09:14 AM
Trailer is now online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2zYHWDZKo).

It looks like a considerable departure from the X-Men - Days of Future Past comic storyline.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jeff on October 29, 2013, 12:54 PM
Looks pretty good. I have no problems with them taking vast steps away from the way it was in the comics because they've already done that (Havok/Beast in one era, Cyclops/Jean in another, Iceman in a third, etc).  As long as it's a good story, I'll get over it not matching the comic version.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on October 29, 2013, 02:30 PM
I'll remain hopeful, but there was an awful lot of dramatic brooding and standing around in place of action scenes.  Hopefully that's just an issue with the trailer, not with the actual movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on October 29, 2013, 07:47 PM
I'll remain hopeful, but there was an awful lot of dramatic brooding and standing around in place of action scenes.  Hopefully that's just an issue with the trailer, not with the actual movie.

Bryan Singer addressed this, it wasn't an artistic choice for the trailer. Final visual effects, such as the sentinels, aren't finished yet.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Greg on October 29, 2013, 08:06 PM
I'll remain hopeful, but there was an awful lot of dramatic brooding and standing around in place of action scenes.  Hopefully that's just an issue with the trailer, not with the actual movie.

Bryan Singer addressed this, it wasn't an artistic choice for the trailer. Final visual effects, such as the sentinels, aren't finished yet.

I'm glad that's the case. I was thinking they wanted to hide the villains for as long as possible, as so many other movies try to do these days. *cough*smaugkhanchitauri*cough*
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: jedipurge on January 27, 2014, 07:47 PM
http://www.empireonline.com/xmen/

so Empire magazine got different covers for most if not all characters in new xmen movie. my question is then on the pic of old "future" wolverine why does he have adamantium claws back? interesting.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 28, 2014, 02:32 AM
I'm sure Magneto could help out with that.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 28, 2014, 11:08 AM
Well, if they are dealing with time travel that might be the source as well.  If you could send someone back in time to stop Trask, you could probably send someone to save Charles or to stop Wolvie from losing the admantium.  Heck, given Wolverine's healing powers the could let out the bone claws, have the admantium grafted on and down into his hands a bit and be right back in business.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BrentS on January 28, 2014, 01:30 PM
http://www.empireonline.com/xmen/
 my question is then on the pic of old "future" wolverine why does he have adamantium claws back? interesting.

As someoneo who casually follows the movies and then subsequently forgets all the details... when did Wolverine lose his claws? 
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 28, 2014, 01:34 PM
I was curious about that too, and had to look it up.  His hands/claws are apparently chopped off in 2013's "The Wolverine."  The healing factor causes the claws to regrow, but just as bone instead of the admantium coated originals.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BrentS on January 28, 2014, 01:37 PM
I was curious about that too, and had to look it up.  His hands/claws are apparently chopped off in 2013's "The Wolverine."  The healing factor causes the claws to regrow, but just as bone instead of the admantium coated originals.

I just went to Google too to try and look this up.  I sort of remember that now in the Wolverine Movie... I didn't love that particular incarnation of the franchise so I must have just erased it from my memory :)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 28, 2014, 03:52 PM
It happened towards the end of The Wolverine.  In order for Yashida to steal his healing factor, they bound his hands, got him to extend his clawa then chopped them off and drilled into his bone marrow.  After he was able to escape the chair, his claws were able to regenerate...but without the adamantium.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 28, 2014, 05:49 PM
What happens to his hands after that?  Kinda gross, but I wonder if Wolvie could chop off a hand again, then hold the severed hand up to the wound to have it reattached versus all new growth. 
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 28, 2014, 09:21 PM
His hands were not cut off....just the claws....and they regenerated.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 29, 2014, 09:11 AM
His hands were not cut off....just the claws....and they regenerated.

How did they slice off just his claws?   ::)  Did they cut through them, so there's some admantium left?  Or fit they sliceat the exact spot the claws connect to the hands?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: P-Siddy on January 29, 2014, 10:53 AM
His hands were not cut off....just the claws....and they regenerated.

How did they slice off just his claws?   ::)  Did they cut through them, so there's some admantium left?  Or fit they sliceat the exact spot the claws connect to the hands?

There is this mechanical samurai built of adamantium (sword and all) and that can cut through Logan's claws.  So I would guess that there are some bits of adamantium left in the hand/claw origins.  I don't recall everything, but I assume they needed Logan alive to get his regenerative powers.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on January 29, 2014, 11:47 AM
Yeah - the idea that adamantium can cut through adamantium was a new one to me.

So was sucking the healing factor from his bone marrow...

Still not as bad as anything from the Wolverine Origins movie, though.

I don't understand what use he can get out of "bone claws."  They'd be comparatively brittle and snap off pretty easy.  Only good for stabbing something fleshy - not slicing. 
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on January 29, 2014, 11:55 AM
IIRC there was also a heating factor involved.  The sword that the Silver Samurai used had a heated blade but I don't recall right now if that was what he eventually used to cut off the claws.  But once he did cut them, he drilled into the bone marrow, as mentioned.  And, after the battle was over, the bone regrew but without the adamantium.

I'm just assuming the trailer/photos from DoFP are either an out-of-time Logan or Magneto helped him out somewhere. 

I actually liked The Wolverine but really dislike Wolverine Origins.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: P-Siddy on January 29, 2014, 01:45 PM
IIRC there was also a heating factor involved.  The sword that the Silver Samurai used had a heated blade but I don't recall right now if that was what he eventually used to cut off the claws. 

Yeah, that's what he used... a lightsaber... flaming-sword... Azor Ahai reborn.  Sorry, wrong movie, show.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 29, 2014, 02:49 PM
Kind of glad I never went to see this.  The guy had a "hot sword" to cut through admantium?  Seriously?  Doesn't Logan survive the A-bomb in the beginning of the movie?  I have to think that was perhaps hotter than the sword...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on January 29, 2014, 02:54 PM
IIRC, the story was that the Silver Samurai's sword may have been made of adamantium.  But I skipped on seeing The Wolverine, so I couldn't say for certain.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 29, 2014, 03:05 PM
IIRC, the story was that the Silver Samurai's sword may have been made of adamantium.  But I skipped on seeing The Wolverine, so I couldn't say for certain.

I read that too, but I don't find it any more plausible.  Heat up the admantium and suddenly it can slice through other forms of admantium?  Maybe at an incredibly high temp, but at that temp wouldn't it equally melt the sword?  Does anyone actually think this crap through when writing a script?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: P-Siddy on January 29, 2014, 03:36 PM
Does anyone actually think this crap through when writing a script?

No.  They just think the average person is a dumbass that love knockers, ass, and explosions on the big screen.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on January 29, 2014, 04:53 PM
It seems to me that the screenwriters wanted to inject some sort of jeopardy into the mix for Wolverine.  Between his healing factor and the adamantium laced skeleton,  Logan is almost impossible to kill.  So what to do?  Take away his claws and put the character in some serious danger.  That doesn't jibe with the comics, but I think the producers of the Marvel movies have made it abundantly clear that they're prepared to take some license with the characters in an effort to produce what they think is an entertaining film.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: jedipurge on January 29, 2014, 07:15 PM
Does anyone actually think this crap through when writing a script?

No.  They just think the average person is a dumbass that love knockers, ass, and explosions on the big screen.

my kinda people. LOL
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 29, 2014, 07:19 PM
I don't have any problems with that...so long as it makes some basic common sense.  If you want to cut off chunks of him, then have them slice at appropriate joint locations.  He's locked into a contraption - that would have been easy enough to do, slicing off his hands at the wrist or some such thing.  Showing that he can lose body parts at the joints between bones could add an element of weakness to Logan.  Or, have the claws put into some kind of admantium melting solution that could liquify and store the metal.  Maybe Wolvie has to agonizingly break off his melting bone claws as the admantium melts off to avoid being completed smelted to death.  I'm sure there are dozens of ways to introduce danger for the character without introducing something so simple and outright implausible as a "heated sword." 
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on January 31, 2014, 09:37 AM
The movie isn't bad. Justin I can loan it to you if you'd like. (http://forum.vinxperience.net/Smileys/vxsmileys/wolverine.gif)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 31, 2014, 12:08 PM
The movie isn't bad. Justin I can loan it to you if you'd like. (http://forum.vinxperience.net/Smileys/vxsmileys/wolverine.gif)

Sweet - thanks Jay!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jeff on March 24, 2014, 09:47 AM
New Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6acRHWnfZAE)

I cannot wait for this movie...  Fassbender is such a badass Magneto.   8)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on March 24, 2014, 01:34 PM
New Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6acRHWnfZAE)

I cannot wait for this movie...  Fassbender is such a badass Magneto.   8)

Wow, that looks excellent!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on March 25, 2014, 09:12 PM
Hmmm.  I am getting the distinct feeling from this new trailer that the advanced Sentinel Nimrod is part of the story.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on April 16, 2014, 05:33 PM
The final trailer is out. Holy Kakballs! A Marvelous year for flicks!  ;D

X-Men: Days of Future Past/Official Trailer 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjtg7m1MMM)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on April 17, 2014, 07:16 AM
Well this is unfortunate... (http://www.today.com/entertainment/x-men-director-accused-drugging-raping-teen-1D79543522)

Normally going to an X-men movie doesn't pose a moral dilemma...   :P
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: McMetal on April 17, 2014, 09:07 AM
Yeah, that story has been out there for years, it was the kid who could shoot fire. He was one of the few cast members who never went on to do ANYTHING after that movie. Hollywood is icky.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on April 17, 2014, 01:18 PM
I'm less concerned over the fact that dude's suing because he was molested at a molestation party he probably should have avoided, and more concerned that Singer ATTENDED child molestation parties.  Allegedly...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on April 19, 2014, 07:30 PM
Wow.  This story is horrendous, to say the least.  From reading some of the stories about the plaintiff, he and others have already successfully sued other defendents for molestation.  So this isn't just someone who's looking to do a hit job on Bryan Singer in advance of one of his movies coming out.  And evidently in Hawaii, where some of the legal action is being pursued, there was a window of opportunity to pursue a lawsuit for sexual abuse that is due to close very soon.  From what I gather the statute of limitations may have passed for any kind of prosecution.  But a judgement against Singer in civil court will without a doubt damage his reputation as a filmmaker.

I know that there have been some fanboy grumblings about Bryan Singer and his homosexuality.  Some of that has revolved around him and his casting of Brandon Routh in Superman Returns, and an overall unseemly angle.  I chalked a lot of that up to fanboys not liking the movie, being cruel and homophobic.  But THIS STORY?  It's a whole new level of creepy.  And while I had begun to warm up to the idea of this new X-Men film, now I feel like doing that would just be wrong.

Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 20, 2014, 01:14 AM
Wow.  This story is horrendous, to say the least.  From reading some of the stories about the plaintiff, he and others have already successfully sued other defendents for molestation.  So this isn't just someone who's looking to do a hit job on Bryan Singer in advance of one of his movies coming out.  And evidently in Hawaii, where some of the legal action is being pursued, there was a window of opportunity to pursue a lawsuit for sexual abuse that is due to close very soon.  From what I gather the statute of limitations may have passed for any kind of prosecution.  But a judgement against Singer in civil court will without a doubt damage his reputation as a filmmaker.

I know that there have been some fanboy grumblings about Bryan Singer and his homosexuality.  Some of that has revolved around him and his casting of Brandon Routh in Superman Returns, and an overall unseemly angle.  I chalked a lot of that up to fanboys not liking the movie, being cruel and homophobic.  But THIS STORY?  It's a whole new level of creepy.  And while I had begun to warm up to the idea of this new X-Men film, now I feel like doing that would just be wrong.

He'll probably end up Making the next X-men movies in Europe with Roman Polanski.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on April 20, 2014, 08:20 AM
But THIS STORY?  It's a whole new level of creepy.  And while I had begun to warm up to the idea of this new X-Men film, now I feel like doing that would just be wrong.

I keep coming back to one question:  If Jerry Sandusky directed a kick-ass X-Men movie, would I go to see it?  And it's really hard to answer yes.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on April 20, 2014, 02:41 PM
I already had some qualms about seeing this movie BEFORE this news came to light.  The story alone is one of the most legendary story arcs in the history of the X-Men comics.  Could a film ever do it justice?

And now?  I really feel that I cannot in good conscience go to see this movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: efranks on April 20, 2014, 11:53 PM
If it was just the director I would probably skip this film but I'm thinking about the half dozen or more actors and actresses that are in this that I like.  It's a story I want to see, written by a guy I trust with actors that I respect... So? IDK.  I'm probably still going to go see it.

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Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on April 21, 2014, 01:31 AM
I don't in any way want to minimize the accusations here, but they are just accusations at this point, correct?  I have a hard time assuming guilt for someone that's not been proven guilty and just don't know enough about the case to lean one way or the other.  I'm also very aware that there are a ton of people who made and starred in this movie, so boycotting it because of one person ends up hurting a bunch of other people beyond  Singer.  I'm not sure if I'll race to see it in the theater, but I will eventually see it as it looks like a great story.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on April 21, 2014, 08:51 AM
From what I've read - accusations from a victim who has already had a number of successful cases.  So it's an accuser with some credibility.

So you'd go to a movie directed by Jerry Sandusky (assuming a quality movie with actors you respect)?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Diddly on April 22, 2014, 12:04 AM
While the accusations are no doubt horrific, I'll still be seeing this movie. The "moral dilemma" excuse sounds lame though. It's the X-Men brand that will sell tickets, not Bryan Singer. Heck, I didn't even know Singer was the director until this story broke.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on April 22, 2014, 07:33 AM
From what I've read - accusations from a victim who has already had a number of successful cases.  So it's an accuser with some credibility.

So you'd go to a movie directed by Jerry Sandusky (assuming a quality movie with actors you respect)?

Sure. If you're going to boycott the movie, then I assume you will find out where he eats, shops, gets gas, etc. And boycott those places as well, right?  Crap, he likes tacos?  Guess I'm done eating Mexican food.   ::) My watching the movie can't enable or prevent Singer's actions.  If no one went to see it, maybe you'd damage Singers payroll...along with hundreds of other innocent people who have a stake in the film.  Heck, you might not even get your message out - maybe low ticket sales are viewed as a lack of interest in the source material.   People need to think a little more about the outcome of their actions before doling out punishment.  And this is all assuming he did anything wrong - Singer is being viewed as guilty until proven innocent.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on April 22, 2014, 08:30 AM
Fox, the studio behind the X-Men film franchise, recognizes that this case has the potential to hurt the financial success of the movie.  And now they're circling the wagons.

Bryan Singer had been scheduled to do a bunch of press in advance of the release of the movie.  That included an appearance at Wondercon in California this past weekend.  Fox had a sizable panel discussion to discuss their upcoming projects, and X-Men - Days of Future Past was slated to be a major component of the presentation which also included Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.  Bryan Singer was not only a no-show, but his name wasn't even mentioned.  The Director of the film...NOT EVEN MENTIONED.  You may want to let that sink in.  Writer/producer Simon Kinberg stepped in to lead the panel, and the X-Men presentation was scaled back immensely, with most of the panel focus going to the new Planet of the Apes movie.  Oh, and there were no questions allowed during the X-Men portion of the panel.

And it's not just Fox that's pulled back from Bryan Singer.  Disney, which owns the ABC television network, is revamping the promos for a new show called Black Box, and they're pulling any mention of Singer from those as well.

Film is very much a director's medium.  And a scandal like this will definitely follow a director and can financially hurt their films.  As for the implications of what Singer is accused of?  This isn't a case of someone over-indulging in booze or drugs.  This isn't over a DWI with an embarrassing mugshot.  This is about a sexual assault case involving a minor that could have led to significant criminal charges had it been dealt with in an appropriate timeframe.  And these accusations have been leveled against the DIRECTOR of the film.  The one filmmaker that is most responsible for this particular movie.  All of the cast and crew have been paid.  As for anyone else getting hurt by poor attendance for this movie?  Those would be people who get points and backend money from the movie.  Most studios are reluctant to give up that sort of interest in a project.  But generally a producer/director would get points.  Whether or not you want to see the movie is a judgement call you need to make for yourself.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on April 22, 2014, 08:58 AM
Sure. If you're going to boycott the movie, then I assume you will find out where he eats, shops, gets gas, etc. And boycott those places as well, right?  Crap, he likes tacos?  Guess I'm done eating Mexican food.   ::)

Not anywhere near a logical argument.  If Singer made me tacos, I wouldn't accept them.  If he owned Taco Bell, I wouldn't eat there.  But the fact that he might like them has no impact.

Singer was the DIRECTOR of this film.  That's the CEO.  The guy in charge.  Totally different than what you're trying to argue.

People need to think a little more about the outcome of their actions before doling out punishment.  And this is all assuming he did anything wrong - Singer is being viewed as guilty until proven innocent.

Apparently the fact that he throws these annual parties is not disputed.  The idea that he throws annual parties that focus on child rape should shock anyone.  But in Hollywood nobody raises an eyebrow.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on April 23, 2014, 08:09 AM
Like I said, no trial needed.  If you're found guilty by a couple dudes browsing the internet and called out on a star wars collecting forum, then obviously you're guilty.  Just a few things to consider though:

Is it possible that he threw a party, but didn't commit the crime?

Could the accuser be lying to get back at him or to get publicity?

Would any big corporation continue to publicly support and publicize an employee accused of these crimes?

Just some food for thought for those who have already judged.

As for who you hurt with a boycott, don't be naive just because you want to riot.  The cinemas, studio, distribution, merchandising, and ownable media guys will be far more impacted by a boycott than the director.  If you really want to send him a message, get off your duff and write to someone or organize a protest.  If you feel strongly enough about it to boycott the movie and write about it then spend your energy doing more than trying to influence a handful of guys on JD.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jeff on May 13, 2014, 12:59 PM
Channing Tatum = Gambit? (http://www.mtv.com/news/1823940/channing-tatum-gambit-x-men/)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Hemish on May 21, 2014, 11:30 PM
Just got back from seeing Days of Future Past and i really liked it, the link backs to the other movies was great and although Wolverine was there it didn't center on him which I was worried about.
Young Charles was great and the fights in the future were done really well.
I think it's a strong movie and has the franchise well and truly on the right track again after First Class
Oh and hang around for the after credits scene, giddy up :)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Sprry75 on May 23, 2014, 09:10 PM
Just saw DOFP.  Then watched X1.

Hmmm.

Let me just say, I love the X-Men.  I love Marvel.  I love The Usual Suspects.

All that said, this wasn't a bad movie.

But it's totally a studio movie.

This was an $xxxmillion effort to revitalize a franchise.  Yeah, it's better than X3 or either of the Wolverine movies (the second of which I liked but didn't love).  There is no chemistry amongst the team.  The only characters that have anything together are Professor X and Magneto, and unfortunately, the McKellan/Stewart - Fassbender/McCavoy chemistry is pushed to the brink.

If you're gonna sell out and just try and give us a popcorn movie, then just give us a popcorn movie.  But to do a reboot where you use a classic story to try and throw everything plus the kitchen sink back at us?

I dunno.

Seems like Singer and 20th Century Fox compromised a lot on this.  It could have been so much more while needing to be so much less.  Just too many characters, none of whom get adequately developed.  Warpath looked cool, but we never learn much about him.  Bishop is totally gratuitous.  Havoc--one of the few characters we already know and sort of care about--comes and goes without any real substance.

That said, Fassbender as Magneto is brilliant.  He's so good.

I'll see it again I'm sure, and maybe I'll lower my expectations because I really did have high hopes and it's a really good movie. But it could have been so much more so I was kind of disappointed.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: evenflow on May 23, 2014, 11:37 PM
Just saw it ad enjoyed it. I think Fassbender/McCavoy are great. Prof. X was the star of the movie for me. After credit scene was pretty cool too.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: iFett on May 24, 2014, 04:16 PM
I saw this today and had a good time.  I believe the extra scene in Spidey 2 was the barracks scene from this movie?  I don't quite get that but that's okay.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Diddly on May 30, 2014, 04:23 AM
Finally caught DOFP yesterday. Not as good as Captain America: Winter Soldier, but much, much better than Amazing Spidey 2. Maybe a peg below First Class too, but there wasn't much that I disliked about it.

I guess the one question I have is where do they go from here? I know Apocalypse is coming next but is that going to use the First Class cast or the old cast? Because honestly I have no desire to see another movie with the original trilogy cast.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: EdSolo on May 30, 2014, 06:22 AM
Apocalypse will be the new cast and set in the 80's.  I'm not sure where they will go after that.  I believe Jackman is planning one last Woverine movie.  Jennifer Lawrence is only signed on for one more movie and said she wouldn't have done this one if she didn't sign for three movies.  There are rumors of Gambit and Deadpool movies.  I think we will see a reboot in the next five years or so, much like we saw with Spiderman.  Fox and Sony will keep rebooting franchises to retain the rights to the characters.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 30, 2014, 07:33 PM
I saw X-Men:Days of Future Past last weekend and I thought it was really well done. As far as how I would rank it among the other X-Men franchise movies - I would definitely put it near the top and the fact that it did it's best to right the X-Men Movie Franchise "ship" earns it a lot of kudos in my book.

It was great seeing Fassbender as Magneto again - he was the best part of X-Men: First Class and continued to shine here. It was also nice to see Patrick Stewart back as Professor X, doing more than just a post-credits scene or a bad CGI cameo (I'm still not convinced he even showed up to shoot that scene - I think they simply used what they had on hand from the young Jean Gray scene in X-Men: The Last Stand - the quality of that scene in X-Men Origins: Wolverine was so bad, I think anything is possible really)

Quicksilver was well done and a great way to have a sequence where mutant powers can be showcased to provide levity and comic relief in a story that was at points very grim and macabre. I would have never thought we'd see Sentinels rip Colossus in half, decapitate Iceman or impale Storm - but we did.

I'm looking forward to X-Men: Apocalypse in 2016, I hope they can keep the momentum going and keep getting better.

Do I wish the rights were with Disney so X-Men could cross pollinate with Avengers? Of course. Same thing goes with Spider-man - but those studios seem to have no intention in letting go of their franchises anytime soon.

Are there still glaring discrepancies across the movies in the franchise? Sure the universe seems to have two Emma Frosts, Havok is 30+ years older than Cyclops, there are two very different Trasks, multiple variations of Stryker, etc...

But if they are finally recognizing that having these discrepancies was really hurting their ability to tell coherent stories, then I'm glad they seem to finally be interested in building a more coherent set of connected movies.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Diddly on June 1, 2014, 09:16 PM
Someone on Reddit attempted to tie all of the X-Men movies together (spoiler alert) (http://imgur.com/a/B2M1n). Some goofy stuff in there and a lor of flaws are exposed, but still an interesting read.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 26, 2015, 07:33 AM
Jubilee cast for Apocalypse (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3011830/Bryan-Singer-unveils-newcomer-Lana-Condor-new-Jubilee-latest-mutant-join-X-Men-Apocalypse.html)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jeff on April 14, 2015, 12:24 PM
Olivia Munn = Psylocke (https://twitter.com/BryanSinger/status/587707838203428864) for Apocalypse.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jeff on November 11, 2015, 11:46 AM
Sounds like the first X-Men: Apocalypse trailer (http://collider.com/deadpool-sexuality-x-men-apocalypse-magneto-quicksilver-dad) will be shown before The Force Awakens...  along with 50 billion other previews, I'm sure.  :P
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on November 11, 2015, 11:57 AM
Olivia Munn = Psylocke (https://twitter.com/BryanSinger/status/587707838203428864) for Apocalypse.

Olivia Munn posted a pretty awesome video of her sword skills on Instagram:

https://instagram.com/p/7iTcNksmcf/
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 13, 2015, 06:20 PM
Sounds like the first X-Men: Apocalypse trailer (http://collider.com/deadpool-sexuality-x-men-apocalypse-magneto-quicksilver-dad) will be shown before The Force Awakens...  along with 50 billion other previews, I'm sure.  :P

I'm still hoping for a Rogue One teaser!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: 77Skywalker on January 23, 2016, 10:35 PM
I think thus far, Days of Future Past is the best one yet.  Mainly due to Bryan Singer's involvement:

1.  It was great he only returned to direct an X-Men movie.
2.  When Bryan Singer wanted to fix what he didn't like in the X-Men franchise (mainly with what happened in X-Men The Last Stand), he wasn't kidding.  The ending scene was totally worth it.
3.  I think Bryan Singer actually did a big favor for many X-Men fans:  I think since the very first X-Men movie, X-Men fans everywhere have wanted to see Sentinels in an X-Men movie.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 13, 2016, 03:21 AM
I just would like to take a moment to say, if you haven't seen Deadpool...you need to rethink your life choices!   ;D
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: evenflow on February 16, 2016, 01:11 PM
Dead pool was fun. Not sure if the sequel will capture that but still looking forward to it.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: jedipurge on February 16, 2016, 04:22 PM
Matt you are absolutely right.

favorite deadpool scene?

i think mine was the baby hand
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on February 16, 2016, 10:36 PM
Matt you are absolutely right.

favorite deadpool scene?

i think mine was the baby hand
Time to make the chimi-*******-changas!!!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Diddly on February 17, 2016, 09:40 AM
Yeah Deadpool was awesome... favorite part was probably the Hugh Jackman mask

It spawned an awesome rant too by the director of Guardians of the Galaxy, where he basically said Hollywood will see an R rated movie making so much money and make a gazillion clones over the next few years that will all fail since Hollywood won't get what makes Deadpool unique in the first place.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on February 17, 2016, 12:20 PM
I would not be surprised to see Deadpool in the last Wolverine movie.

And I agree that Hollywood will learn the wrong lesson.  The lesson isn't "do R-rated, goofy superhero movies."  The lesson is "these characters are popular for a reason - make a good movie that respects that reason."
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on February 17, 2016, 01:00 PM
Completely agree.  I don't think it is popular and successful because it is rated R. I think it has been successful because it is a different animal than all the other comic book films. 

Again and again, when the filmmakers respect the original creations there is success.  See all of the MCU films, and see the FF remake as the opposite evidence.

Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 18, 2016, 12:22 AM
I loved the fourth wall breaking, but the best part was how he spelled out Francis.  :D
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on February 25, 2016, 12:54 PM
I saw Deadpool yesterday.

Mediocre. Very safe. Characters that felt like they were chosen by a committee. None of those things applied to Deadpool.  :D

I like Deadpool's comment at the X-Men mansion.  And the mocking of X-Men Origins Wolverine.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: DSJ™ on April 25, 2016, 11:59 AM
 8)

X-Men: Apocalypse | Final Trailer [HD] | 20th Century FOX (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jer8XjMrUB4)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on April 25, 2016, 06:17 PM
Standard Internet reactions: (My responses)
Fire Singer. (Yes, the guy who made the first successful Marvel superhero movie)
Give rights back to Marvel (so Marvel movies can become even more convoluted cross-overs)
Mystique is not an X-Man or the leader of the X-Men.  (Seems like mutant characters switched sides a lot)
It's J-Law's fault for being a bigger star now. (Nerds decided they hate her.)
Costumes aren't comic book-accurate (Somethings don't translate well into live action)
Why have none of the characters aged since last film was in the 70's and this is the 80's. (They want CGI Patrick Stewart back?)
Apocalypse isn't fearsome/large/threatening/whatever-enough. (At least he isn't some normal human guy in a business suit or some cop-out)
Of course can't have an X-Men movie without him. (Whatever)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 30, 2016, 12:18 AM
I saw X-Men: Apocalypse tonight and I enjoyed it. It definitely wasn't horrible like people are making it out to be. I think the vogue thing to do now is to bash Fox's X-Men Franchise in some weird hope that Fox will relinquish the rights back to Disney. The fact that Disney just signed a deal with Fox to allow for X-Men based TV shows and the fact that Fox has several X-Men Universe franchise movies in the works means that no matter how badly this movie "tanks", the rights are staying exactly where they are.

In fact, I think this movie when taken together with X-Men: First Class and X-Men: Days of Future Past, closes out what should be considered as a much stronger trilogy of X-Men movies than X-Men, X2 & X3: The Last Stand are.


Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on May 30, 2016, 10:00 AM
Deadpool made Fox 5 X-Men's worth of box office profits.  Those rights aren't going anywhere.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 31, 2016, 03:54 AM
I just got back from Apocalypse and thought they did a good job overall.  I saw some reports that people were complaining about Sophie Turner's accent, but I thought she did a good job.  I also love how they handle Quicksilver's power!  It was awesome in Days of Future Past and it's just as enjoyable here!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on June 1, 2016, 09:14 PM
Saw it and it was pretty decent. No great surprises, but entertaining.  The new versions of characters were mostly good. Jubilee gets shorted again. It's hard to reconcile Angel with  X-Men The Last Stand's Angel even in the messed up timeline where people haven't aged much since the Cuban missile crisis. But I guess it's like the comics in that regard!  ;)


Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Diddly on June 3, 2016, 03:58 PM
Saw this a few days ago, and I'm honestly unsure of what to think of it. It wasn't bad at all, but wasn't really memorable either. Honestly I'm kind of over the Magneto/Mystique story and wouldn't mind if they were left out of the next movie completely. With the [SPOILER] tease in the post-credits scene, I'm assuming the next movie will be set in the 90's, so I hope we get some Jim Lee costume designs.

And can someone find the X-Men's secrets to combating aging? :P
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: jedipurge on June 10, 2016, 05:52 PM
theres a 'clip' of wolvie running around in Weapon X gear killing soldiers on Instagram. looked decent but still didn't seem deadpool violent level. looked really dark and didn't seem any more violent then X2 when he was killing soldiers in the X mansion. I want to see limbs flying off and blood spray, what else would you expect from blades that cut through anything like a hot knife through butter   >:D
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on June 12, 2016, 10:25 PM
Well, it's still PG-13. Wolverine 3 will be R.

Apocalypse isn't doing as well as hoped, at least compared to Days of Future's Past.

But it really looks like TMNT's film franchise might be dead now.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on June 13, 2016, 03:36 PM
But it really looks like TMNT's film franchise might be dead now.

As it should have been a decade or two ago...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Jayson on October 20, 2016, 09:33 AM
Logan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Div0iP65aZo)
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Phrubruh on October 20, 2016, 10:58 AM
Logan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Div0iP65aZo)

Wolverine staring in the Last of Us.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on October 23, 2016, 02:42 PM
This looks like the "Old Man Logan" storyline from the comics.  I wonder if they will just set it as a stand alone in the future or have some time travel aspect again?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on October 24, 2016, 01:28 PM
Hopefully no time travel. Curious how the X-Men died...yes, every comic reader has said how it happened there, but this isn't a direct adaptation.

Engineered virus maybe?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on October 24, 2016, 01:36 PM
With Future Past ending on such a happy note (haven't seen Apocalypse yet), it kinda sucks if this is the canonical timeline now with all mutants dying.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on October 24, 2016, 06:19 PM
Hopefully no time travel. Curious how the X-Men died...yes, every comic reader has said how it happened there, but this isn't a direct adaptation.

Engineered virus maybe?

I don't follow the X-Men that closely, but I think Wolvie kills most of the heroes under mind control, which pushes him into seclusion as well.  Kinda solves the whole mutant problem I guess, except for the bad guys.  I think in the comics, present-Wolvie also dies, but Old Logan from the future somehow makes his way to the present.  Could be a way to bring older Logan into the mix with the younger class of X-Men from the last movie, though I'm not sure Jackman wants to do anymore Wolverining.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on October 24, 2016, 08:08 PM
Hopefully no time travel. Curious how the X-Men died...yes, every comic reader has said how it happened there, but this isn't a direct adaptation.

Engineered virus maybe?

What in the Fox X-verse actually has been a direct adaptation?  The Phoenix story?  Nope.  Days of Future Past?  Uh, no.  Wolverine limited series (4 issue Japan story arc)/ The Wolverine?  Again, no. 

Granted, the Marvel Cinematic Universe hasn't been completely faithful to all of their source material.  But the guidelines have been there in a lot of the origin stories.  Iron Man's story was adapted to the present day.  The Captain America origin was very faithful.  But the way Bryan Singer has steered a lot of these stories has been a huge stretch.  And I've had a very tough time with how these X-Men films have diverged from some amazing source material.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on October 25, 2016, 05:22 PM
I liked most of the X-Men stuff thus far, but you're right - the original comic stories are that much better.  Days of Future Past would have been awesome on the big screen, but I think you'd need to have a handful of movies in front of it to make any sense out of the storyline.  Some of these just don't transfer well to film.

As for Marvel vs. Fox taking liberties, I think they're pretty equal.  Cap and wolverine have origins similar to the comics, but a lot of other characters don't.  Having Stark create Ultron, Jarvis become Vision, Hawkeye married with kids, Shield building the Avengers...that's all a hodgepodge of very divergent stories that don't map at all to the comics.  On the flip side, I just watched XMen Apocalypse last week and loved the little Weapon X cameo.  As long as they loosely tie to the characters I love, I'm usually pretty happy with the Marvel-based stuff, outside of the crap that has passed for Fantastic Four and Hulk films.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on October 25, 2016, 08:15 PM
I agree that there's been a lot of divergences with both movie universes.  With the Avengers, the bones of the original team were largely there with the original members:  Cap, Thor, Hulk & Iron Man.  The SHIELD angle is something that came from the Ultimate universe, so I kind of can deal with that take on the story.  As for Ultron, Vision, Pym, et al?  I can see the concerns.

The X-Men films started with something of a hodge-podge team that was more of a composite of the team over the years rather than something that was true to the books.  Cyclops and Jean Grey were the only original members on the team.  Storm was with the 3rd wave that came in during Giant Sized X-Men, as was Wolverine.  Iceman was a younger student at the school and not a member of the team, and there was no presence of Angel or Beast until the 3rd film.  Say what you will, but the original X-Men team actually had some decent stories.  And they also began to incorporate characters like Banshee, Polaris, Havok and Magneto well before Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Colossus ever made it into any books.  Could that original team have carried a movie or two before introducing the Giant Sized X-Men team?  It all would have depended on multiple factors:  the director, script and cast.  But if you did that I could imagine the fan outcry:  where's Wolverine?  And I think that Fox wanted to make sure that he was in the mix from the get-go purely from a marketing standpoint.

But what about the possibility of building a universe?  I don't think that Fox really had the foresight to see it through.  But imagine two 'First Class' sort of films that might have led up to a third movie that would finally introduce the Storm/Wolverine/Colossus/Nightcrawler, etc team?  That could have been something great.  And then you could potentially get another few films after that with the Phoenix saga, DoFP, and maybe eventually Apocalypse without it being such a ******* mess.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: jedipurge on January 24, 2017, 10:26 AM
so after seeing the new Logan trailer I got to thinking. Ryan Reynolds has said he won't be in the new Logan movie because his character doesn't 'fit' in the theme of the movie. BUUUUUUUT what if there is another character that might link Logan and Deadpool. What if, since the movie is a bit more in the future, Cable is introduced in Logan movie. Maybe even time traveling and taking X23 to the past to save her and introduce her to Deadpool. after all she is the NEW Wolverine.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on January 24, 2017, 04:27 PM
so after seeing the new Logan trailer I got to thinking. Ryan Reynolds has said he won't be in the new Logan movie because his character doesn't 'fit' in the theme of the movie. BUUUUUUUT what if there is another character that might link Logan and Deadpool. What if, since the movie is a bit more in the future, Cable is introduced in Logan movie. Maybe even time traveling and taking X23 to the past to save her and introduce her to Deadpool. after all she is the NEW Wolverine.

The X-Men time travelling to the past then resetting all their characters and completely erasing the previous timeline(s)?  Ha, that would never happen my friend. 
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: P-Siddy on March 3, 2017, 02:39 PM
Just got back from seeing "Logan" about an hour ago.  I enjoyed the movie.  The story was pretty good, but there are some things that are alluded to that you have to figure out on your own if you don't know the Old Man Logan story (which I didn't, so I had to do some reading afterwards to understand a couple things). 

The movie is pretty intense, brutal in violence and definitely warrants the "R" rating.  Definitely not one to take the little ones to... don't want to say too much for fear of spoiling what happens, but will gladly take pms if people are curious.

There aren't any after-credits (but there is a pre-movie extended trailer).


Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on March 3, 2017, 06:43 PM
Good to hear.  Sam really wants to see this, but I think it's going to have to go on his wait list if it's that violent.  Appreciate the head's up on no-trailer, so I don't wait around for it when I go.  What was the extended preview for?  Guardians?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: P-Siddy on March 3, 2017, 07:50 PM
I'll pm you details of the teaser.  Do you want general ideas on the violence?
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on March 6, 2017, 01:25 PM
It was really good.  Very graphic though.  Too much for children but I never felt that it really crossed over into gratuitous territory.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: jedipurge on March 7, 2017, 05:27 PM
I saw it yesterday after picking up kids from school( near 10 year old boy and 12 year old girl) violence wasn't bad at all. Nothing that wasn't in the Terminator or Predator and I saw both those movies around when I was their ages, give or take. now when you think about Predator and Terminator both old movies so I think we, now that we're parents, don't really think about how violent those movies are because we've seen them so many times, most of us. I guess it depends on your kids level of maturity. We watch walking dead as a family. There is a nip slip, to be honest I think I have bigger b00bs then the girl that showed em off. I think the preview for CHiPs was inappropriate that was very Rated R mostly because it has very se xual jokes. 

for me anyways the movie left some 'silly' questions.
like since x23 has the adamantium, and look like she has it all over and not just the claws, does that mean she won't grow any taller. I mean think about it adamantium isn't going to stretch, and she's still pretty young. the girl did a FANTASTIC job. But the fact that she was so young I think it'd have been better if older like the comic version would've been better.

now I know this is supposed to be Jackmans last outing as wolverine, but it'd have been cool if Chuck had been able to switch minds with the other(for those that have seen you know what I'm talking about, for those that haven't I'm trying to leave as vague as possible while still discussing with those that have seen it)

now in comics Logan is the one responsible for killing the xmen allowing the villans to take over the world. in the movie its now pretty much a human only world. so in the movie is it implying that Chuck is the one responsible for there not being ANY mutants left or just what happened to the other xmen?

And it does kind of sucks after what happens in Future Past Xmen movie that the mutants pretty much wind up in the same boat in the future. so its almost all for nothing as far as mutants are concerned.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: BillCable on March 8, 2017, 09:00 AM
in the movie its now pretty much a human only world. so in the movie is it implying that Chuck is the one responsible for there not being ANY mutants left or just what happened to the other xmen?

It's implied some were killed by Chuck at the X-Mansion.  Others were hunted down by the group that modified the corn syrup to end mutant births.

They really needed to do a juggling act with the timeframe to choose a year where Xavier could conceivably still be alive, and no new mutants had been born in a generation.  And I think that hampered the story a bit.  That's why all the lab rats needed to be so young.

I honestly hope they don't do a sequel.  They'd do better to focus exclusively on the Deadpool-verse.  Have that spawn Cable and X-Force and have those things happen in the present.  After the "main" universe wraps up their 1990s movie, just close that book.  With all the time travel and retcons, that storyline is indecipherable.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: jedipurge on March 8, 2017, 09:40 AM
that's right I totally forgot about those guys, thanks Bill.

it did seem a little weird that chuck would still be around and logan would have aged so fast. the fact that logan was so old almost implied that time had passed way more than then it had

and I agree with you on changing focus. we've had plenty of xmen movies over the years, and I really think that people would not accept a new actor playing Wolverine anytime soon.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scott on March 15, 2017, 11:26 PM
I have generally liked most of the XMen movies but I gave this one a big meh...honestly part of me is super bitter that Fox holds on to this and FF and doesn't see the light like Sony did with spiderman.  I really didn't feel any emotion at all (except a little in the farmhouse) and the end scene (which in no way was in North Dakota) was almost laughable instead of touching

I'm with Bill, the whole X-verse is a hot mess and needs to end
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on March 16, 2017, 12:41 AM
lll
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: EdSolo on March 16, 2017, 06:56 AM

And you have folks saying Logan isn't actually part of the previous X-Men continuity....which is saying that Force Awakens really isn't a sequel to the original trilogy. SO WHY SHOULD WE GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE MOVIE OR THE CHARACTERS? The whole thing depends a lot on the audience's previous connections to Logan and Xavier.

That isn't a fair comparison based on Days of Future Past.  TFA is most definitely a sequel, just set 30 years later than ROTJ instead of picking up a short time after.  Logan takes place later in the timeline than the "future" we see in Days of Future Past, but I don't think it goes into detail if it is the altered future which erased the events of X-Men 3 or if it is a different timeline.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on March 16, 2017, 10:47 AM
I'm with Bill, the whole X-verse is a hot mess and needs to end

I watched about half of X-Men - Apocalypse the other night.  And it just seems like the series is all over the place now.  It doesn't seem like there's any real sense of the natural passage of time or continuity in the X-Men universe.  Just looking at Xavier and Alex Summers compared with their characters around the time of First Class made me wonder what the hell was going on.  Especially when they got Scott Summers involved.

There have been some bright points, like X-Men - First Class, but then Bryan Singer got back into the mix and it seems like things are all over the place again.  I was also a little annoyed by the line about Return Of The Jedi, where the dialogue took a shot at the 3rd X-Men film when a character said "The third movie is always the worst".  REALLY?  At that point in time only the Godzilla, James Bond, Star Wars and Planet of the Apes franchises had three movies out.  I get that some fans would appreciate the inside joke at Brett Ratner's expense, but seriously.  The way that Bryan Singer has messed with the X-Men film franchise is not that much better.  Singer shouldn't be taking shots like that.  And I'm not terribly disappointed that I fell asleep during the movie and didn't see the end.

I kind of want to see Logan because I like what Hugh Jackman has done with the role.  I understand that this might be the most adult/graphic presentation of Wolverine, but we've been getting that in the comics at least since the 1980's.  And it's been laid out for us in the comics for some time:  the Weapon X program was developed so that there would be a government agent who had the ability to kill other super heroes.  And the combination of Wolverine's powers and claws were a means to that end, and the means were violent.  And I also find it kind of funny that I had no knowledge base for Deadpool, and that film was actually pretty good.

I think an X-Men reboot is definitely in order.  The way Days of Future Past shook out, I thought that the alterations to the timeline would allow for that.  Too bad they didn't recognize that opportunity.  The X-Men franchise is fertile ground for storytelling, but it needs the kind of direction that the Marvel Cinematic Universe has had under Kevin Feige's supervision.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: P-Siddy on June 14, 2017, 04:33 PM
I read Jessica Chastain is in talks to play a villain in Dark Phoenix...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on June 14, 2017, 08:01 PM
Picked up the Blue-Ray & DVD set for Logan at Target the other day - just $12!  Was this movie that bad?  I haven't checked it out yet...
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 15, 2017, 01:44 AM

And you have folks saying Logan isn't actually part of the previous X-Men continuity....which is saying that Force Awakens really isn't a sequel to the original trilogy. SO WHY SHOULD WE GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE MOVIE OR THE CHARACTERS? The whole thing depends a lot on the audience's previous connections to Logan and Xavier.

That isn't a fair comparison based on Days of Future Past.  TFA is most definitely a sequel, just set 30 years later than ROTJ instead of picking up a short time after.  Logan takes place later in the timeline than the "future" we see in Days of Future Past, but I don't think it goes into detail if it is the altered future which erased the events of X-Men 3 or if it is a different timeline.

I thought Logan was a great movie. But at the end of the day, it needs to exist in a timeline where the events of X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine and The Wolverine all exist.

I know it wasn't in the final cut of the movie, but in a deleted scene, set during the dinner at the farmhouse, there is a mention made of Jean Grey and that Logan loved her and he had to kill her.

This means that, as originally scripted, Logan does NOT fit with the more hopeful ending of X-Men: Days of Future Past, because that movie negated X-Men: The Last Stand.

So I think the first three X-Men movies and the three Wolverine movies all go hand-in-hand. It's almost like they exist in a movies timeline where the X-Men: First Class movies never happened. Once you introduce those movies though, it starts to negate

A lot of people didn't like the inclusion of the Weapon-X scene in X-Men: Apocalypse because if didn't fit with the fact that in X-Men: Days of Future Past, the last time we saw 1975 Logan, he was getting rescued by Raven/Mystique, so how did he end up with Stryker in the Weapon-X program?

I theorize that X-Men: Apocalypse further splinters the timeline because of that Weapon-X scene and sets everything from Apocalypse forward on a timeline totally unconnected from the "happy" ending from Days of Future Past. This way the creators of all future X-Men movies, especially those with the McAvoy/Fassbender cast, can totally ignore all of the previously released movies with the Stewart/McKellan cast and branch off in a totally new/fresh direction.

Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Diddly on June 15, 2017, 09:32 AM
Picked up the Blue-Ray & DVD set for Logan at Target the other day - just $12!  Was this movie that bad?  I haven't checked it out yet...

I liked it! I didn't get around to seeing it until May when Alamo Drafthouse held the one night Logan: Noir screening (the black and white version included with the Blu-Ray) and had a special Q&A with the director and Hugh Jackman afterwards. The room got a little dusty at the end.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on June 15, 2017, 07:17 PM
I read Jessica Chastain is in talks to play a villain in Dark Phoenix...

Lillandra of the Shi'Ar empire.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on June 14, 2019, 04:29 PM
So, anyone see DARK PHOENIX?

Anyone???

The final X-Men movie for awhile...except the New Mutants stuck in tinkering hell...I think it was filmed when Obama was president...the first term!!  :P

Anyway, it's not very good. Dark Phoenix, that is. Fassbender and McAvoy are good in it. It seems rather light for its 1 hour 54 minutes. 
No post credits or mid credits scenes.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 14, 2019, 07:44 PM
I've heard it's not great.  Debating on whether or not to see it this weekend.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Nicklab on June 15, 2019, 11:38 AM
I’m done with Fox X-Men movies.  I saw some of Apocalypse on cable and it was just not good.  So I am checking out on X-Men films until they can get properly rebooted and incorporated into the MCU.... even if I do have a thing for Jessica Chastain!
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: EdSolo on June 17, 2019, 02:45 PM
It certainly doesn't live up to the first two movies in the series.  Probably on par or a bit worse than Apocalypse.   I'm not sure if this one or X3 is a better telling of the story or not, so that should paint the picture right there.  Captain Marvel was a better representation of the 90's.  I'm not sure they seemed to care as much considering how well they did the 60's and 70's and to some extent the 80's.  For whatever reason, they chose not to use the actual President like they did with Kennedy and Nixon.  They certainly didn't do enough to make the characters look older.  Xavier and Magneto should be ~30 years older than First Class and that certainly doesn't appear to be the case.  They should be approaching the look of Stewart and McKellen from the first movie, but it isn't even close.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scockery on June 18, 2019, 01:18 AM
I kept forgetting it was a  period movie.

Should've gotten Dana Carvey as George Bush Sr.

"Read my lips, no New Mutants!"

Yeah, as some reviewer pointed out, Beast should be in his 50's but doesn't act like it. Mutant aging!
Smurfette's Mystique's make-up was changed a lot over these movies.

The Last Stand's cure plot worked better than the plot with Jessica Chastain in Dark Phoenix.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: JediJman on June 19, 2019, 01:20 AM
Might skip this one.  Logan was worth seeing for anyone who missed it.
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Scott on June 20, 2019, 07:55 PM
Meh, I liked it, I’m easy to please
Title: Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 21, 2019, 12:05 PM
I still need to go see this one.  It's been kind of tough lately with all the other movies my kids want to see.  Last week it was Secret Life of Pets, this week it's Toy Story 4, then we have to find time to see Avengers: Endgame again because there's a director's cut coming out right around the time Spider-Man: Homecoming hits theaters.  I'm the only one who has any interest in X-Men and honestly, the reviews have not really motivated me.  Add to that the only time I could go see it is on a Saturday night after the kids go to bed, but that cuts into my X-box night.....


I know, first world problems!   :D