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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Revenge of the Sith => Topic started by: CHEWIE on June 27, 2005, 02:40 PM
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From Rebelscum -
"We've gotten early word that an army of Clone Troopers will descend upon Toys "R" Us stores this holiday season, by way of a trio of exclusive 3-pack sets.
Search For Yoda includes 3 red-colored Clone Troopers (aka Shock Troopers)
Jedi Temple Raid includes 3 blue-colored Clone Troopers (aka 501st Legion)
Attack On Utapau includes 3 orange-colored Clone Troopers
These will most likely be repaints of the Deluxe Clone Troopers sets, although this is not confirmed at this time.
Stay tuned for more details as they are revealed!"
Sounds really cool, and TRU exclusives usually aren't that hard to get!!!
:P
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This is cool news, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed that they might be the "Deluxe 3 Pack" versions. I mean, it is definitely better than no versions of these, but I guess I was hoping we'd see some sort of "repaint" versions of the #41 (or even #6) Clone in the shocktrooper, 501st, Utapau, etc. color schemes. I'd rather have articulated versions of these personally, but like I said, at least we'll see them in some capacity. And, it isn't confirmed that these are "Deluxe style" versions, so I'll keep positive about it.
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I really hope they aren't the Deluxe 3-pack versions. I'd pay an extra $10 to get the #41 Clone body used in this exclusive.
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So would I. I'm not quite sure why these would need to be exclusives since everyone and their brother will want tons of each.
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Yeah, my reaction is mixed. Let's hope there's better news as more information is revieled.
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I think we're all in agreement that we'd pay an extra $10 for 3 clones appropriately done ala #41 style!
Thumbs down to TRU and Hasbro if they are indeed redecos of deluxe three packs.
What's the dealio with the laying down clone BTW? On the card his head is upright but in production he's eating dirt!
Makes no sense.
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These are gonna be such a ******* pain to find. We all know it. :-\ They should ship the hell out of these since everyone will want tons.
Obviously SA ones would be ideal, but I wouldn't mind too much if they go the Deluxe 3-pack route as long as they ditch the lying down clone and use three upright ones something like so (with new helmets obviously):
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=clonewars/CWarmyclonesGcardfr.jpg
Or one of them could be this pose:
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=clonewars/CWvalueyodacardfr.jpg
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Good news in that these are the 3 Clone designs everyone's been begging for since the ROTS release (since most/all the Clones released so far aren't terribly movie accurate, or "movie abundant"). So I'm happy that we'll at least be getting these 3 Clones in some fashion or another.
But yeah, if they do it as simple repaints to the Clone 3-packs we're currently seeing at retail, that'll suck, since those aren't accurate poses for these 3 in the movies, and we're already up to our neck in trying to track down these first 4 or 5 sets as it is. Give us something different Hasbro. #41 SA Clone repaints, please.
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Do they even need to retool the helmet from the EE four pack? Couldn't they just swap the proper Ep III helmet onto that figure and then go? Oh wait, they already did that for #41 ::)
We want SA three packs.
Hasbro will deliver the same crap they always do. Why? Look at ebay and the people clamouring for the CW three packs and the excitement surrounding finding the current shipment of crappy figures. Granted I'm contributing to it by wanting those figures too, but I'll toss aside any temporary optimism for these figures and just go straight to the assumption that we're getting the same old rehashed crap.
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That would be sweet if they used the SA clones but knowing Hasbro, they will probably use the current trooper 3 pack ones for these. Will lift my TRU ban just to pick these up, no matter what...these troopers are a must have if they happen.
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I'm sure they will be the regular deluxe 3-pack w/paint. I guess it is better than nothing. The only reason I bought 4 white 3-packs was to paint them accordingly, oh well. Clones are never in excess.
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I REALLY hope these are Deluxe repaints so I can pass on them and avoid walking into TRU. If not, it is on.
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I'm going to be patient on this rumor and hope for some official confirmation from Hasbro at Comic-Con. It's certainly something to add to the questions for the Hasbro Q&A.
I don't like the way RS shotguns rumors out onto their front page and adds their own speculation.
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If they are SA, then I'll take 10 of each. If they're not I may just pass them all together.
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No mater what sculpt they use Hasbro owns me on Clones and I'm going to start an allotment in my bank account just to save up for the army I'm going to buy. Lets hope that no matter which sculpt they use they offer a pre-order on amazon.com like they are doing for the Evolution 3-packs! Crossing fingers!!!
Blake
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The only positive to that rumor is that if it is the 3-pack I can ignore looking for it too hard... I've cut deluxe sets out as something I have to have all of, and those Clone 3-packs absolutely blow in my opinion.
$10 for a lack in overall quality to get basically 1 more figure than you would if you bought these as all "basic" poseable figures is not a fair trade-off in my eyes. Gimme 3 SA figures. You have all the molds tooled for grunts, so it's the only thing I feel is worth buying at this point... I'm with Jared though in waiting for some confirmation on this, but if it holds true to the current word, I'll just have money for other **** I actually have interest in buying.
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Just a few thoughts:
1. Can't wait to see these figures on eBay - they're going to look great there and that'll about the only place a lot of us will ever see them.
2. If it's the deluxe 3 pack repainted, I'll leave them on eBay. The deluxe 3 pack sucks. Looks like Steve Urkel in his clone trooper Halloween costume.
3. I already have red, blue, and orange paint color schemes thanks to customizing. That's not to say I wouldn't buy these if A) They were the clone 6 or 41 sculpt or B) I saw them at retail which will never happen anyhow.
4 Gotta love the army building exclusive. Thanks to the way the 12.99 Target clone was ripped off the pegs, you can count on this "exclusive" ****** deluxe 3 pack selling in excess of $20, something I've been leaving on the pegs at $10.
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What I find funny is army building exclusives at all... Exclusives, by their nature, generally are a shorter production run than basic run items, so really it seems like a shot in the foot in the long-run as far as profitability... If you can sell more, shouldn't you try?
Price on these could be anywhere but just because the Target Clone was overpriced doesn't necessarilly mean these will be... Look at the 4-packs from a while back, they weren't really poorly priced for what you got, they were just piss-poor sets... A deluxe-sized exclusive is sort of new, so where it falls price-wise is anyone's guess... Same with production runs though, these could be made in droves, and they could really actually sit.
I recall the Clone Wars 3-packs actually getting to a point where they didn't fly off the pegs, at least where I live, and even some were found when TRU finally clearanced Clone Wars Deluxe. I still regret passing that Spider Droid and the 3-packs I saw sit on sale for $8 since they'd have made good trade bait, and I'd kinda like having the Spider Droid now. Live and learn.
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It's a SA 3-pk in the $15-$20 range, then I think we will all be happy. Chances are though it won't be... but hey, who knows? They could pack it like the "Evolution" sets and be a $20 set that is well done. You never know...
If it's the regular deluxe, I'll probably pass too, unless the paint jobs are very good. I've seen a ton of the regular deluxe Clone 3-pks at Walmart and Target lately, and they all have terrible paint jobs. The visor area is a black smudge that is smeared all over the helmet. Looks like a blind man tried to paint them with his foot.
:P
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Close... He's not blind, but he only has feet so that's all he's able to paint with.
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I'm with everyone else here
Repaints of the Deluxe 3-Packs...Pass
Repaints of #41 or even #6...Gimme
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I am with CHEWIE, I would buy the three pack if they were to make them with the same packageing and articulation as the evolution sets. But with the way hasbro has been doing things I really would not hope to much.
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A horrible reality just hit me. If we're getting these around the holiday's, that means that it's likely that these will not be part of the "next 12." :-[
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My guess will be that these are going to be specially painted Deluxe Three-Packs. My guess is that TRU will get cases of six (2 of each color) sets.
The more sensible way to go (since they could still get mileage out of the #41 clone) would be to use the dye-cut for the evolutions packaging, develop generic clone artwork (like they did for the four EE SA clone packs) and then have the three sets packaged EXACTLY like the Evolutions sets.
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Well I hope they are not just the deluxe figures. Like everyone else i am hoping for SA troopers.
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What I find funny is army building exclusives at all... Exclusives, by their nature, generally are a shorter production run than basic run items, so really it seems like a shot in the foot in the long-run as far as profitability... If you can sell more, shouldn't you try?
Yeah, to us laymen this seems like a big ol' DUH.... ::) Clonetrooper action figures are a license to print money, so why not milk it for as much as you can?
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What I find funny is army building exclusives at all... Exclusives, by their nature, generally are a shorter production run than basic run items, so really it seems like a shot in the foot in the long-run as far as profitability... If you can sell more, shouldn't you try?
Yeah, to us laymen this seems like a big ol' DUH.... ::) Clonetrooper action figures are a license to print money, so why not milk it for as much as you can?
Buzz. You don't get buzz without shorting the supply.
Sadly no toy retailer seems to get the idea that chase figures really don't do much for the line overall. I think the Simpsons WOS line handled it best. No figure was ever hard to get - GITDH, Cooder and Sinclair, any of the mail aways or exclusives could simply be ordered by meeting minimum conditions (like upc's). No restrictions based on fanclubs or the like. But they became immensely popular and sought after, good $$ on the secondary market. Largely without massively pissing people off. [/soapbox]
Hasbro ain't that bright. C'mon big H, prove me wrong. :P
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The best Idea I've heard on this so far is the thought of these being 3 SA Clones in an Evolutions style box (hopefully with the right gear and stuff)... I hadn't even considered the Evolutions boxes as really being made for 3 figures and stuff...
That's ideal thinking, unless you consider ideal to be the 3 SA guys in a small package (with just rifles)... I'd love that Evolutions sort of idea, but not under the Evolutions title. That'd be rather neat.
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I would put money (my usual shiny nickel) on these being more repaints of the Deluxe 3-pack Clones. Why?
1. Hasbro always takes the easiest and cheapest road when it comes to exclusives. 90% of the exclusives these last few years have been repaints or slight retoolings of previously released items (at least in the 4" line) and I don't think this will be any different. It's easier and cheaper for them to simply repaint the three pack Clones than it is to come up with all new packaging for a three pack of SA Clones with new paint schemes.
2. If the idea of a SA Clone body being used for a special three pack was actually floated by Hasbro, TRU probably balked at it, since they couldn't understand how three of the same exact figure in a box would sell that well. Then Hasbro told them they could have the cheaper three pack, but it would have three different poses. TRU probably jumped at this idea, not realizing that while it offered more "variety" to the uninformed consumer, it probably cut their sales (and repeat sales of the same item) in half, if not more.
3. (Conspiracy theory): Hasbro is putting these out there so they don't have to do them again in the future. This way, they can say, "We already did those and they didn't sell to well, buy the 400th Luke/Han/Vader instead" when someone asks them to do regular carded versions of the three different paint schemes.
Everybody tells me I'm a pessimist and a cynic, and I admit this is true, but it's hard to be truly disappointed when you always expect the worst. :) When it comes to Hasbro, that is what I have come to always expect.
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I still don't understand why these are exclusives. Ok, I get that Hasbro/TRU can crank the price, knowing we'll buy these, but they also know that any clone, whatever the color, is like money in the bank. Would you want 50,000 of them out there, or 100,000? More? These colors would sell forever as part of any future assortment.
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I still don't understand why these are exclusives. Ok, I get that Hasbro/TRU can crank the price, knowing we'll buy these, but they also know that any clone, whatever the color, is like money in the bank. Would you want 50,000 of them out there, or 100,000? More? These colors would sell forever as part of any future assortment.
This confuses me as well. There four key designs that were in the movie that could easily be applied to the SA Clone (#41) and those variations could be shipped from now until the end of time and they would STILL sell. If the line is indeed going back to a unified Saga banner, just keep shipping the ROTS SA Clone in every other assortment and then vary the paint op, make full count production runs of each variant and just ship the **** out of it. Why pull punches like this on something that is truly "money in the bank"?
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The best Idea I've heard on this so far is the thought of these being 3 SA Clones in an Evolutions style box (hopefully with the right gear and stuff)... I hadn't even considered the Evolutions boxes as really being made for 3 figures and stuff...
That's ideal thinking, unless you consider ideal to be the 3 SA guys in a small package (with just rifles)... I'd love that Evolutions sort of idea, but not under the Evolutions title. That'd be rather neat.
My ideal would be three SAs side-by-side in the bubble on a normal Deluxe card.
The packaging on the Evolutions is overkill, especially for an army building set where 80% that are sold will be ripped open anyway -- carded collectors only need one, but openers will buy multiples. And it could shave a buck or two off the retail price.
Besides, these clone sets aren't truly Evolutions since it's three of the same type of trooper.
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I'm gonna wait to say anything about these. I figure they'll most likely be shown at Comic Con and THEN I'll have something to say.
EDIT:
Thought I would elaborate on my non-statement. ;D
First, I've seen a few too many reports of things we'd like to see turn out to be the result of poor reporting. How many times have we been told the Cloud Car was on the way? Or more recently, what about the case of one collecting site that reported Hasbro stated at Toy Fair '05 that there would be a prequel equivalent of the VOTC line? Instances like these can give one cause to be skeptical. The situation is compounded even more since Hasbro has been playing things so close to the vest since about 2001.
There is an upside. The Clones described in these sets are the most signifigant in REVENGE OF THE SITH, so from that standpoint these particular Clone Troopers make sense.
So what if the report is true? Then we get into the very murky area of how will these Clone Troopers be presented? The fact is that there have been a number of different 3-packs in the Hasbro Star Wars line over the years. Just look at some of them:
-Cinema Scenes - These were in the POTF2 and EPISODE I lines. They depicted a specific scene, and had an accompanying title, much like the titles that rs reported in their article. The packaging on these is also similar to the more current EE exclusive Clone Trooper 4-packs.
-Screen Scenes - The SAGA equivalent of Cinema Scenes but packaged in a more three-dimensional fashion.
-Clone Wars Army Builder Sets - The first incarnation of the deluxe 3-packs that are now shipping in the ROTS Deluxe assortment.
-ROTS Deluxe Clone Trooper 3-Packs - The same product as the Clone Wars 3-packs, just in new paint schemes with new helmets.
-ROTS Evolutions - 3-Packs of well articulated figures.
The next issue is price point. All of these products have shipped at a variety of pricepoints. Once again that's an issue that the rs article was not able to confirm, and as a result we're only left to speculate.
Then figure in the exclusivity factor. Hasbro has come to see that collectors would spend $13.99 for a single, exclusive Clone Trooper in a protective package. Exclusives have ranged in price from $9.99 to $30+ for the EE Clone Trooper 4-pack. Where will these sets fall? Nobody knows outside of Hasbro and Toys R Us.
Now, rs DID editorialize that they THINK these sets may be repaints of the ROTS Deluxe 3-packs. Once again, more speculation and no hard facts.
The whole situation is certainly interesting, but it also has the potential for people to get their wheels spinning in anticipation of a product that we may or may not get. That's one of the reasons why I'm skeptical and I've adopted a wait and see attitude. There are just far too many variables to make any kind of definitive statement on these 3-packs.
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I'm gonna wait to say anything about these. I figure they'll most likely be shown at Comic Con and THEN I'll have something to say.
And Nick covers a lot of toy shows and stuff so we'll wait to see what he's got to say about these.
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Hey, you be nice! :-X (Nick's not going to SDCC though, as far as I know)
I'm definitely looking forward to these sets myself. The more Clones, the better! Especially if they're finally gonna be movie accurate, for a change...
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My ideal would be three SAs side-by-side in the bubble on a normal Deluxe card.
The packaging on the Evolutions is overkill, especially for an army building set where 80% that are sold will be ripped open anyway -- carded collectors only need one, but openers will buy multiples. And it could shave a buck or two off the retail price.
Besides, these clone sets aren't truly Evolutions since it's three of the same type of trooper.
Part of me thinks that's the best option too... 3 SA's on a deluxe card with just the right gun (rifle, given that we have a ton of the carbine at this point). But the idea of the Evolutions styled box (not "Evolutions" figures though, just a reuse of that packaging style) would be ideal if you were getting MORE accessories... Just thinking outside the box on that a bit, but not expecting it. But I could see zip-lines, a rocket launcher, various weapons...
I agree that the Evolutions packaging would be overkill if you got nothing additional in there... I saw the EE Clones as overkill on the packaging too, being something you couldn't buy on sight, and for army building... Selling it in a store makes the packaging slightly more important. I'd be more than happy with 3 SA's on a Deluxe cardback though, but I'd be ecstatic for 3 SA's in an Evolutions styled box with a ton of different gear... Just doubt it happens that way... The one thing I know I certainly hope not to see is the Deluxe Clones reused and that's seemingly everyone's first thought, so I'm not too pumped on this line right now... Should be interesting to see in the coming weeks (and/or months) what is what.
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I still don't understand why these are exclusives. Ok, I get that Hasbro/TRU can crank the price, knowing we'll buy these, but they also know that any clone, whatever the color, is like money in the bank. Would you want 50,000 of them out there, or 100,000? More? These colors would sell forever as part of any future assortment.
Let's just hope there isn't a limited run, just because they are going to be exclusives doesn't automatically catagorize them as limited. I also think TRU does a better job with quantity in general.
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Part of me thinks that's the best option too... 3 SA's on a deluxe card with just the right gun (rifle, given that we have a ton of the carbine at this point). But the idea of the Evolutions styled box (not "Evolutions" figures though, just a reuse of that packaging style) would be ideal if you were getting MORE accessories... Just thinking outside the box on that a bit, but not expecting it. But I could see zip-lines, a rocket launcher, various weapons...
Good idea, I hadn't thought of doing that!
Personally I'd still rather see just the figures with less packaging and less extras, but if they have to go for the Ev-style box, adding accessories and things would be the best bet to make it worth the extra dough.
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I'm gonna wait to say anything about these. I figure they'll most likely be shown at Comic Con and THEN I'll have something to say.
And Nick covers a lot of toy shows and stuff so we'll wait to see what he's got to say about these.
I'm not going to respond to this other than to say please read my signature line. Have a nice day! ;D
Nicklab
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I'm gonna wait to say anything about these. I figure they'll most likely be shown at Comic Con and THEN I'll have something to say.
And Nick covers a lot of toy shows and stuff so we'll wait to see what he's got to say about these.
I'm not going to respond to this other than to say please read my signature line. Have a nice day! ;D
Nicklab
Sweet, I'll just wait for your next toy show review so I can finally form a valid opinion about whatever they're showing there, because I don't have the credentials to do it myself.
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Part of me thinks that's the best option too... 3 SA's on a deluxe card with just the right gun (rifle, given that we have a ton of the carbine at this point). But the idea of the Evolutions styled box (not "Evolutions" figures though, just a reuse of that packaging style) would be ideal if you were getting MORE accessories... Just thinking outside the box on that a bit, but not expecting it. But I could see zip-lines, a rocket launcher, various weapons...
Good idea, I hadn't thought of doing that!
Personally I'd still rather see just the figures with less packaging and less extras, but if they have to go for the Ev-style box, adding accessories and things would be the best bet to make it worth the extra dough.
Yeah I really wouldn't wanna pay $20 just for a box... If that's the case, 3 on a Deluxe card for $10 would be much better... or even $15. I dig weird accessories though and would love to see the Clone Mini-Gun, the rocket launcher... Perhaps more CW figures will surface someday (and not cartoon styled ones) with those weapons. I doubt it but I'd love to see it.
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If it's like the clone #41 I'd buy many of the 501st legion and put them behind Anakin.
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I'm gonna wait to say anything about these. I figure they'll most likely be shown at Comic Con and THEN I'll have something to say.
And Nick covers a lot of toy shows and stuff so we'll wait to see what he's got to say about these.
I'm not going to respond to this other than to say please read my signature line. Have a nice day! ;D
Nicklab
Sweet, I'll just wait for your next toy show review so I can finally form a valid opinion about whatever they're showing there, because I don't have the credentials to do it myself.
So did you happen to see my byline on this article (http://thejawa.com/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1405)? Oh wait, I saw you repeat some of the text almost verbatim in another thread. ;D
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From Rebelscum (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=94316):
TRU Clone Trooper Sets Cancelled
Posted by Curto on August 17, 2005:
Looks like the trio of Clone Trooper 3-pack sets that were planned for Toys "R" Us this holiday season are not going to happen, as they have decided to pass on them. This is bad news for fans of army builders, but good news for those who want a little more articulation with their clones. Since the first two armor designs will be made in plastic, here's hoping Hasbro will make a running change for the Utapau colors as well.
I can't say I'm heartbroken.
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Me, either. Although I do want to see the Utapau clones real bad. Hopefully we'll get plenty of those next year.
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I can't say I'm heartbroken.
I can't believe that "awesome Clone 3-packs at TRU" story was anything more than RS rumor/speculation in the first place.
They were the only ones who were really pimping that story when it first came out and now they can cover their tracks with a nice "I guess they were cancelled" line. ::)
Through all of my Hasbro contacts, I was never able to verify that story, which leads me to believe that's all it ever was - a story. :P
Jeff
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It sucks, but they probably would have been the preposed deluxe ones anyway.
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Are you saying that the good old folks over at scum make things up?
I'm shocked, SHOCKED!!!
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But seriously, I do enjoy the Q&A, the guy is as accurate as the local weather guy here in Columbus.
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Sometime people make mistakes. I'm sure RS didn't just "make this up." I'm sure they either got some bad info, or misunderstoof some info. Big deal.
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Good riddance, I say, if it was even true to begin with.
Me, either. Although I do want to see the Utapau clones real bad. Hopefully we'll get plenty of those next year.
Since Cody is on tap for next year, I'm hoping for a couple of things to happen when that wave (presumably a "Battle of Utapau" wave):
A) They repaint the #41 Clone again as a yellow grunt.
B) They create the alternate helmet design and include it in the package.
C) Pack them at 3 per case.
Of course, this would make sense so expect 1 per case of a #6 clone repaint with some EU paint things, like blood on the boots, ala the 501st Clone. :-\
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Since Cody is on tap for next year, I'm hoping for a couple of things to happen when that wave (presumably a "Battle of Utapau" wave):
You know, as much as I like the idea of themed waves, putting a rather stringent "Battle of" theme on next year's line is going to end up leaving a lot of oft-requested things out in the cold. The market right now is Clone-Crazy, and Hasbro should realize this enough to actually, you know, SHIP THEM IN DECENT NUMBERS even into next year. I don't care if the first wave is "Battle of Carkoon"; I'd much rather ditch the Barada and (horrifically underscaled, if true) Chewbacca, defy the wave scheme, and throw an Utapau grunt Clone Trooper and more 501st Clones in there.
Hasbro claims that Cody is definitely coming next year, but if you go by their "Battle" themed waves, there really isn't a solid place for him to go from what I can tell. Many have said that the Coruscant wave would be acceptable (hell, they can put him in the Death Star wave and I'd buy it I want that figure so badly), but I think this "Battle" wave could end up pushing some interesting figures out in the cold so we can get that 19th recard of the CommTech Han Solo.
And Jared, I'm right there with you on the "Battle of Utapau" idea with one exception, and this would be my case ratio:
4 x Utapau Clone Trooper (#41 Repaint)
4 x Commander Cody
4 x Medic Clone (the one with the weird helmet)
Although, if they went with this theme, this is what we would get:
1 x Commander Cody
1 x Utapau Clone Trooper
1 x Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS #1)
3 x General Grievous (ROTS #9)
2 x Tion Medon (ROTS Sneak Preview)
1 x Utapaun Warrior (ROTS #53)
1 x R4-G9 (ROTS Sneak Preview)
2 x Grievous' Bodyguard (ROTS #8)
::)
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From Pawlus' latest Q&A (http://www.galactichunter.com/q_and_a/050815.asp):
I am wondering if you heard anything further confirming or denying the above subject - just before Comic Con, there was word out that T.R.U. would soon be releasing 3 different exlusive Clone 3-packs, these being:
1/ 3X blue 501st Legion clone troopers
2/ 3X orange Utapau clone troopers
3/ 3X red clone shock troopers
Do you know if there was ever any truth to this report or was this just rumour? If accurate then it would seem funny that they weren't on display at Comic Con.
--Rhys
As with any number of items, nothing is definite until it hits stores. Numerous items get cancelled, delayed, destroyed, or just flat out never materialize all the time, especially in movie years. It's very possible Hasbro considered these items, but if they'll ever be released remains to be seen. I have never gotten a confirmation that Hasbro was developing these, but then again, they're not known for telling fans everything about their exclusive plans, and with good cause. As of yet, we still haven't heard all the 2005 Exclusives from what I've heard... if it's true, I don't know, but this whole Santa Vader thing sure as heck caught me by surprise! (Although if it's legit, I hope it has the "To Luke From Dad" Xmas package that the original artwork sported.)
(underlines added)
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Yeah, I'm not sad to see these get nixed, if they even ever remotely existed in the first place, that is. What Hasbro should've done from the get-go was to just make these rumored sets, with the movie-specific Clones, instead of those crap Red, Blue and Green Clone 3-packs that we've been getting lately. Screw that garbage. If they're gonna hook us up with some massively underarticulated Clones, at least use ones from the movies...
I guess with some of the Battle Packs on tap though, maybe they thought it was a bad idea to pump more Clones out in yet another format at the same time. Who knows...?
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I find it odd that the only ROTS theme we know of next year concerns Coruscant, and not Utapau or Kashyyk. If we don't get Cody, his grunts, and the medic, I'll be pretty upset. And I think the theme waves concept isn't all that, too.
I'd like to see something like this, following the half new figures, half repacks/repaints idea:
Battle of Utapau wave:
Commander Cody (w/ the works)
Clone Medic
Utapau Priest guy (those tall almost Royal Guard looking guys in the background)
Utapau Little Dudes 2 Pack
Utapau Clone Grunt (#41 repaint)
Pilot Obi Wan repack (w/ a new robe featuring a hood)
Nute Gunray (ROTS look)
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I'm glad their not coming out, I rather make my own custom clones (at my leisure) anyway.
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Just as soon Hasbro and TRU worked on something else. Take the gamble it'd maybe be better, as I know pre-posed figures in 3-packs are about as interesting as watching paint dry in my book.
I'd sooner see #6's repainted, even though I'd sooner see #41's repainted over the #6. But I'd take #6 if it was all they could do, ya know? Or I'd simply wait till a basic repaint of it got put out, but anything is better than the 3-pack.
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I'm happy to see these go away as well, not only because of the rumor that these could be the limited articuation 3-packs, but because they would be exclusive and a pain to track down.
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With so many other retailer exclusives shown at Comic Con, for these NOT to appear was an indicator to me that the story was RS bull$hit.
I mean, even if they didn't have the physical paint samples, they could have at least shown them in the slide presentation like they did with the Target Stealth Cammo Clone.
With the options that will be available to allow collectors to get both Shocktroopers and 501st Speical Ops Troopers, these sets were really un-necessary, except for the Utapau Clone design.
I'm a firm believer in the fact that the #6 clone will continue to ship, even throughout the assortments of the final 12 so eventually, even that figure will be easy to get. It's harder right now simply 'cause he comes only 1 per case.
The 501st clones are coming BOTH in the Jedi Temple Assault Battle Pack AND as a repaint of #41 - so if you want to build an 501st army you'll be able to do so.
If I had a choice, I would much rather be limited to these options then get these designed painted on the Deluxe Clone 3-pack statues. The body sculpts on them are pretty bad, especially the standing clone. It's bad enough they made four different versions of that pack, we didn't need three more.
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Lostsa good ideas here from Jared and Michael...I'm glad the RS post clears this rumor or renegged on their statement ..whateva. At least that's that much more money I can save up to buy all these fall/winter store exclusives that I'm being force-fed :-\. Does anyone know if we can buy the Disney 2 pack through disneydirect Phone line. I'd like to not have to go to DL :(
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With so many other retailer exclusives shown at Comic Con, for these NOT to appear was an indicator to me that the story was RS bull$hit.
I'm of the opinion that the story wasn't anything intentionally "lying" on the part of Rebelscum, but I don't believe these sets were as close to actually being done as was implied by them either... I don't even necessarilly believe the idea was pitched. I think Scum just got bad information and took the gamble it was real, and it didn't work out. That's life and I'm just as glad these are off the table it seems... Unless they were SA Clone 3-packs. :)
Anyway, I don't think Scum really lied, but I don't think this was ever a credible story either... Just misinformation.
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From another Pawlus Q&A (http://www.galactichunter.com/q_and_a/050825.asp):
Also, did some digging on the rumored Toys "R" Us Clone 3-packs. Not happening and seemingly never were happening. But as at least one set of Clones is coming as an exclusive, could more be developed after the fan reaction toward these other sets was pretty positive? Heck if I know. I'm not on Hasbro's payroll.
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This is what I think: When I asked Hasbro about Commander Cody at the CC- you could see them practically drooling and frothing at the mouth when they replied ..and I quote "Cody!...Yeah, we really like Cody...we have some great plans for him" :(
Don't want to be too negative here but more..what I call 'Hasbro-realistic' when I say Hasbro's gonna hurt many a buyer with this. They know we want the figure bad, so, first off they'll produce him in some deluxe/battle pack or exclusive so we desperately HAVE to buy it. Then they'll shaft us later in the year and release him as a single carded figure >:(
........'I have forseen this'
(I couldn't beleive Hasbro fieled no fewer then 10 questions :o about other products until I asked about a commander Cody fig.-to which they suckidly gave no REAL reply we can use as collectors)
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Yeah, I was kind of thinking this, too. I foresee many Cody's.
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Suppose we'll wait a year or two to get the Cody we really want; a SA Cody. I'll buy one but then wait for SA Cody. Sure hope I am wrong on this.
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Suppose we'll wait a year or two to get the Cody we really want; a SA Cody. I'll buy one but then wait for SA Cody. Sure hope I am wrong on this.
There's a strong rumor that we're getting Cody in the '06 line, so have faith. ;)
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C'mon Anton, It's no rumor- Hasbro came right out and SAID Cody WILL be out in '06-to my CODY question at the CC.
But, you know they didn't say HOW he will be issued. This tells me that 1. Hasbro def. knows how bad we want it :(
2. So they'll first make it something expensive-
like an exclusive or BP or deluxe, ect
to get more money out of us >:(
3. Then, they'll release him single-carded
of-course Hasbroesque style to take more
cash from us later in the year >:(
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Or... they may just release a nice SA version in the Battle for Courescant (or however the heck ya spell it) wave. I guess we'll see.
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Its about time they release cody, but a cool battle pack with his troops or a shock trooper, 501st & Kashikk clone would be really cool.