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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2022, 04:52 PM »
I really struggled with Moon Knight, but thought Dr. Strange and the Multiverse was entertaining.

I'll probably download and watch Ms. Marvel on some flights later this summer/fall.

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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2022, 05:03 PM »
This new phase of the MCU has felt a little bit trying.  Endgame was such a climactic event that anything after it was going to have some difficulty getting traction. 

Wanda Vision was just weird until you got about 2/3rds of the way through.  But itís essential viewing before going into Dr Strange and The Multiverse of Madness.  I felt like Moon Knight was a bit of a struggle, too.  And itís not exactly easy to make mental illness into comic book fare. 

Iíve actually been enjoying Ms Marvel, and my daughter loves it!  Kamala Khan is not that much older than her, and I think she really appreciates seeing a young girl finding her way as a super hero.  And I also find myself sympathetic to her parents, too. 

Iím really looking forward to seeing the new Thor movie, and so is the kid. 
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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2022, 05:21 PM »
I agree that the MCU seems to be having trouble finding its footing after Endgame.  Thee have been some really good (Spider-Man: Far From Home and No Way Home along with Loki, Falcon & Winter Soldier, Wandavision) and some meh (Doctor Strange, Thor: Love and Thunder, Eternals).

I think there's a lot of potential with making Kang the next Thanos level villain, and I don't want him thrown into everything right away, but right now, the stories are all over the place.

I haven't even given Ms Marvel a look yet because I just wasn't impressed with the trailers.  I'll probably get around to it, but it might be a while.
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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2022, 06:21 PM »
I've been enjoying Ms. Marvel as well.  There are some Indian/Pakistani cultural references in the show that if you aren't aware of them, you won't get them.  But it's been fun seeing how it all plays out so far.

I haven't gotten to Thor yet, too, but am curious to see how it is.

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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2022, 09:44 AM »
I haven't gotten to Thor yet, too, but am curious to see how it is.

I wasn't very impressed with it.  There's a lot of forced humor and they've sacrificed the story for the sake of scoring woke points.  The whole Zeus plotline was terrible....like worse than Canto Bight terrible.
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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2022, 05:52 PM »
I guess it has just felt uneven to me. I watched Ep 5 last night and really enjoyed it. I hate to say it, but I may be getting to that age where I just prefer watching grown ups on tv.  :D
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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2022, 04:58 PM »
I haven't gotten to Thor yet, too, but am curious to see how it is.

I wasn't very impressed with it.  There's a lot of forced humor and they've sacrificed the story for the sake of scoring woke points.  The whole Zeus plotline was terrible....like worse than Canto Bight terrible.

We really enjoyed the first four episodes of Ms. Marvel as a family, then forgot all about it when we went on vacation.  I expected to not like it at all and don't like the comic character, so it beat my low expectations I guess.

Also checked out the new Thor L&T last week.  Consensus from the group I went with was a 7 out of 10.  The bad guy could have been badder, some of the plot elements like Zues and Korg were pretty dumb (I'm just a face!), and it felt like a teen romance at times despite Jane and Thor being much older and serious in prior films.  I did enjoy the goats and there were a lot of laughs, but it makes Ragnarok look like a serious drama in comparison.  I thought there'd be more material with the Guardians - if Guardians III hasn't been derailed I wonder if we'd have gotten a fun Guardians/Thor ride that this film could have better connected to and built off of.  As it is, it felt like I missed a couple of issues of a comic somewhere between this and Endgame.

It's a good popcorn flick, but like other Phase 4 material it doesn't seem to carry the importance or tie-ins with the larger story that made the earlier Marvel stuff so successful.  In my opinion, they've got way too many different unanswered plot lines dangling out there for most people to keep straight (or care about).  I can't tell if the Avengers are still around, what's going on with all the characters from the TV shows (Falcon, Winter Soldier, White Vision, Hawkeye(s), Moon Knight, Ms Marvel, etc.  What's going on with the celestials from Eternals and what are Fury and the Skrulls doing?  Are Hulk, Ant Man, Wasp, Captain Marvel, War Machine, Photon, etc. all just going on solo adventures or taking a break?  Dr. Strange helped clean up the Wanda Vision plot, but now I'm not even sure if all these stories are from the same dimension.  And where does venom fit in if at all?  It's crazy to think Fantastic Four and X-Men are coming somehow too.  I'm a die hard Marvel fan, but it's almost too many different stories now without an Avengers movie helping to anchor the broader story.
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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #67 on: July 18, 2022, 05:59 PM »
I saw Thor L&T today.  Frankly, I'm beyond surprised that I was able to avoid the spoilers about who shows up in the credits scene.  I think that there's been a good partnership between Chris Hemsworth and Taika Waititi.  Ragnarok was great.  The jokes seemed a little more on the nose in this one.  And the use of the music in certain scenes was good, but maybe a little bit heavy handed.  And the goats?  OMFG!  I was laughing out loud at them a lot!

Truthfully?  I think the motivations of Gorr were about as well developed as they could be.  And it made him a more sympathetic villain.  I don't think it's on par with the story of Eric Killmonger in "Black Panther", but it made things easier to digest.

Thor seems to be one of the vehicles in the MCU for exploring these other-worldy places and beings.  That was certainly at play with Eternals.  And when the scene came in Thor L&T I wasn't completely shocked to see a pair of Celestials in Ominpotent City.  The introduction of Eternity was surprising, but also gives us a sense of the bigger universe.

As for where things go?  It seems clear that some big pieces are moving around the board for the next phase in the MCU.  Thor is still a major player.  The Marvels is going to be coming soon.  Vision is out there, albeit in a very different state.  One particular future Avenger was introduced in Eternals.  And another possible Avenger has seemingly just been announced.  There's also the matter of the people we saw in Dr. Strange & The Multiverse of Madness.  That opens pretty substantial possibilities moving forward.
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Re: The MCU post Endgame.
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2022, 06:46 AM »
It seems I like the new Thor better than most.  I think Hemsworth has made peace with this being his big franchise so I believe he will be one of the original actors to stick around for a while.  I'm still surprised they have kept this whole train running.  Phase 4 seems a bit all over the place currently, but I think we will eventually see everything pulled back in to focus around Kang.  MCU is still heads and shoulders better than the DC movies, not even sure you can call it a universe anymore.