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Collectibles => The Vintage Collection => Topic started by: Muftak on April 1, 2023, 03:18 PM
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Jayson has begun dropping serious hints that a TVC Ghost HasLab will be announced at Celebration to the tune of $600.
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Another pass for me. I'd be tempted by the Marauder though.
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Good grief, I know prices are on the rise, but how much bigger than the Razor Crest does it need to be to justify that price tag.
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I don’t GAF give it to me NOW!!!! ;D
while it has always been my dream for them to make one that would accommodate the already released Phantom, because I am convinced that was always the original intent, I would guess they will tool an all new version for that price. Or at least make it a stretch goal.
The real cream dream would be for them to release some animated figures to go with it, but I’m sure any packs ins will probably be realistic TVC style. Can they include the whole crew though? And what season looks would they be?
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Beats me but if they’re doing this, it’s a confirmation that it’s going to be showing up in a prominent role in the shows before too much longer.
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My question is: If the HasLab is the Ghost, and the Ghost is featured on Ahsoka, why run a HasLab campaign well before Ahsoka airs?
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Because yesterday was April Fools Day?
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Jayson has confirmed he wasn't pulling a prank, and also that the TVC Ghost is larger than the Legacy BMF.
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There’s also a rumor floating around that it is a 6” Bantha with multiple Tusken Raiders, but maybe that is an April Fool’s gag too. I hate that stupid holiday.
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My question is: If the HasLab is the Ghost, and the Ghost is featured on Ahsoka, why run a HasLab campaign well before Ahsoka airs?
Because Rebels is still a thing...and it showed up in Rogue One.
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There’s also a rumor floating around that it is a 6” Bantha with multiple Tusken Raiders, but maybe that is an April Fool’s gag too. I hate that stupid holiday.
That was out out there by somebody other than Jayson, but with the Yakface name attached to give it some credibility.
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Hmm...it smells a little fishy to me. Where did Jayson say this? I don't see anything on his IG or Yakface.com. I saw the Bantha thing, but not the Ghost rumor.
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He has been discussing it on the Rebelscum forums.
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He has been discussing it on the Rebelscum forums.
Ah ok. I only go there when I'm feeling masochistic.
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Jayson has confirmed he wasn't pulling a prank, and also that the TVC Ghost is larger than the Legacy BMF.
Yeah, Jayson has said before that he would never do pranks like that during previous April 1st, so if he says it's happening, I believe him.
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I saw SO MANY bad April Fool's posts on Saturday that I just had to tune out social media. It also helped that I went away for the weekend, LOL!
I'm curious to see about the Ghost rumor. I'd love to get it if it happens because I really enjoyed REBELS. The first season of the show had some weak spots, but the story telling over the course of the entire series developed into something great. That's why I was just so taken aback by the Zeb cameo on last week's episode of THE MANDALORIAN. And with the AHSOKA series involving Sabine? And the various breadcrumbs about REBELS related storylines turning up elsewhere? I'm on board with it all.
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It doesn't seem like we're going to find out what the next HasLab item is at EU Celebration. Do we have any sense for when they're going to reveal this?
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I heard Patrick and Chris mention during an interview that SDCC is one of their two big, annual promotional beats. And whatever happens during the spring, there is ALWAYS something new that gets revealed at SDCC.
AHSOKA was announced as an August release for Disney+. I would guess that it would be late August. Hell, I'll even go so far as to say that it will be on August 30th! And I think there's going to be a big panel and final trailer reveal at SDCC. The promotional launch for the Ghost Haslab will probably take place there and then. And I suspect that the Haslab campaign itself will probably be timed to coincide with the release of the AHSOKA series.
As for the Ghost itself? Well, the trailer showed Hera piloting the Phantom II! I would think if Hasbro includes the Phantom it would be the Phantom II. And maybe the Phantom I could be a stretch goal?
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If they make it capable to accommodate the previously release phantom, I would be happy, but a stretch goal wild be awesome.
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If it is The Ghost, what do we think the unlocks will be?
I think having The Phantom as an unlock seems like too big of a value item, but may be included in the original bundle.
The Razor Crest had five unlocks with a low/moderate value each:
Tier 1 - Escape Pod (low cost)
Tier 2 - Grogu with Pram (low cost)
Tier 3 - Carbonite Blocks of Captured Bounties (low cost)
Tier 4 - Display Stand (moderate cost)
Tier 5 - Jawa Elder (low cost)
My guesses for The Ghost (not in any order):
- Display stand
- 2 figure variants / repacks of The Ghost crew members (assuming we will get mainline carded versions)
- Puffer pig with crate
- Crates with gear or Meiloorun fruit
A speeder bike would be great too, but that might have too much value and might be offered separately with a figure (Ezra?).
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I think it's a safe bet we would get the Rebels crew in the main line...similar to all the Jabba's figures we got before the sail barge release and Mando figures before the Razor Crest. Any included figures would have to have some special feature or card to differentiate them from the mainline release.
That being said, I think a Haslab Ghost could look like this:
Original offer: Ghost with Phantom II, Hera action figure (not carded with some sort of soft goods/accessory not in the main line release)
Tier 1: Phantom 1. They have already released this in the Rebels line...maybe add better weathering or something to differentiate it from the original release.
Tier 2: Zeb in his Rebels outfit. I'm assuming that his mainline release will be in his blue flight suit from The Mandalorian.
Tier 3: Some sort of accessory set. I like Dave's idea of crates with cargo they've delivered. Could also be the Jedi Holocron and some other items.
Tier 4: Display Stand.
Tier 5: Some sort of carded figure. Possibly a version of Kanan different from a mainline release.
You could swap tier one and three....they always put something that should be included and very popular at a higher unlock.
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I think their main focus is actually producing something that will actually get funded. If they have another failure, then the whole program becomes a joke.
I still can't understand why they aren't pushing for either a Death Star playset or a Star Destroyer.
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I want a Jabba’s palace style cantina more than any of those, but yeah.
I’d buy a big expensive Ghost too though.
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Whatever the project is Has lab is trending towards having an early backer bonus tier that seems to be limited to the first week.
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Whatever the project is Has lab is trending towards having an early backer bonus tier that seems to be limited to the first week.
I personally like that, but if they've got a good offering there shouldn't be a problem getting it funded quickly. I think the Razor Crest hit its target in a day.
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Hasbro has confirmed that they will reveal the next TVC HasLab project at SDCC.
Hmmm....
2023 SDCC Hasbro Panel = ~July 21/22 2023
Ahoska coming to D+ = August 2023
Is that more proof that those things are related?
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At this point, I'll be surprised if it's not the Ghost.
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At this point, I'll be surprised if it's not the Ghost.
How often is Jayson wrong at this point?
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The GI Joe team is set to announce a new G.I. Joe Classified Series HasLab project on June 5th. I wonder how the timing and price of that will potentially affect the rumored Ghost/TVC HasLab project?
Hasbro Star Wars team better be planning something special to market this campaign because it might be a tall order for a $600 Ghost to come along after the casual fans have spent all their summer money buying up whatever is coming to go along with that Classified Series HISS Tank.
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We're just a few days away from the launch of this Haslab campaign. It's almost certainly going to be on Friday during the Hasbro Star Wars panel (IIRC it's at 2 pm PT).
I think the consensus within the community is that this is going to be the Ghost. But the questions remain:
What will the backing threshold be? The Sail Barge had a backing threshold of 5,000 units, and wound up with over 8,800 backers. The Razor Crest's threshold was 6,000 backers, and wound up with over 26,000 units backed. I think these are most appropriate comparisons for the upcoming campaign. The Black Series Rancor campaign was more of an example of what NOT to do.
What are the stretch goals going to be? The challenge presented here is to make it something interesting / relevant to the Ghost but at the same time something that isn't necessarily locked behind a $600 pay wall.
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If the rumors are true that this is a $600 item, then I hope they consider backing and tier thresholds differently than they did for Razor Crest which was *only* $350. I think $600 is going to pull a lot of more casual fans, speculators, and fans without plenty of cash out of the mix on this one.
I guess the Transformers Unicron was in this price range and had a threshold of 8,000 backers, but they only ended up getting to 10,000. I think there is probably more upside with TVC Star Wars.
I think the threshold might only be 7,000 backers, and the tiers will be fairly tight, maybe in increments of 2000 backers?
I guess it all depends on how much they bundle in to the base package - extra figures, etc., and how much they try and stick in to unlock tiers.
I hope Hasbro doesn't get greedy on this and is able to make this program happen with sensible pricing, targets, value, etc.
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I think part of the calculus now is speculators. Only 8800 people backed the barge which was $500. Before it even shipped people were getting double their money back from people who didn't take part in the campaign. And now it can sell for close to $2K. A lot of people saw that kind of spike in the secondary market for some of the Marvel campaigns, too. I think some regarded it as an investment. Others looked at it as buying two of the Haslab items in order keep one and sell the other in order to pay for both. Is a higher price going to deter that?
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I don't think the Ghost will do Razor Crest numbers...especially with a $600 price tag. If the economy was better, things might be different, but Hasbro is going to have to weigh that in their calculations.
What I would like to see for the unlocks:
- The second Phantom. There should be one in the base unlock, so the other one should be a tier unlock.
- Special versions of the crew on special cards. There had better be single carded releases of each of these figures in the main line.
- An electronics package. Get enough interest in this thing to add electronics to it.
- An advanced display stand. I really like the one that came with the Razor Crest, but I would like something adjustable to display the Ghost in different ways. Hell, the Mando N-1 Starfighter is coming with a display stand.
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Ghost could be $350 and it probably wouldn't do Razor Crest numbers... that one got like 28,000 and it was a ship that was wildly popular at the moment, whereas Ghost was a thing years ago and will be later this year...
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If I was running things at Hasbro Star Wars, here is what I would do:
Base offering = $600 The Ghost with removable Phantom v2 plus Ahsoka, Hera, and Chopper
unlock #1 = Sabine (Ahsoka)
unlock #2 = Ezra (Ahsoka)
unlock #3 = Zeb in Pilot Gear (The Mandalorian)
unlock #4 = Hera and Kanan's kid whose name I can't remember and am too lazy to look up (he's got to be in Ahsoka, right?)
By my math, that works out to The Ghost (~$400) plus The Phantom v2 (~$95) plus 7 figures (~$105). That isn't terrible if the Ghost really is 'BMF' sized. It ties into the new Disney+ programming/marketing nicely.
Plus, it also allows me as Hasbro to do my most favorite thing these days - massive double-dipping! In the mainline next year, around the time The Ghost is due, I offer up:
- mainline TVC vehicle - The Phantom v1 (that is compatible with HasLab Ghost) with retooled TVC Rebels carded Hera
- mainline TVC basic figure - retooled Rebels Chopper on Rebels cardback
- mainline TVC basic figure - retooled Rebels Sabine on Rebels cardback
- mainline TVC basic figure - new Rebels Ezra on Rebels cardback
- mainline TVC basic figure - new Rebels Kanan on Rebels cardback
- mainline TVC deluxe figure - new Rebels Zeb in the $28 line (because you know they'll want deluxe $ for him)
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Jeff, I like your list a lot. I think I'd only add a flying display stand, maybe as the first unlock. That feels like an essential piece of the set to me.
I do hope that whatever the figure unlocks are, they only come carded if they will also be available loose in some other format later, (say a 7-Pack Ghost Crew set, in the same vein as the army building packs). Otherwise, I'd hope all of the exclusive figure unlocks are loose. I'd hate to need to buy a second Ghost just to get an opener & a carded version.
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Jeff, I like your list a lot. I think I'd only add a flying display stand, maybe as the first unlock. That feels like an essential piece of the set to me.
If The Ghost is larger than the BMF Falcon (https://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=25575.msg632430#msg632430) like the rumors were saying, a stand might not be an easy thing to do.
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If The Ghost is larger than the BMF Falcon (https://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=25575.msg632430#msg632430) like the rumors were saying, a stand might not be an easy thing to do.
I really hope its not as wide as the BMF. That thing is really tough to display because of how broad it is. Hopefully they find a way to make it cool without being obscenely large.
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Jeff, I like your list a lot. I think I'd only add a flying display stand, maybe as the first unlock. That feels like an essential piece of the set to me.
If The Ghost is larger than the BMF Falcon (https://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=25575.msg632430#msg632430) like the rumors were saying, a stand might not be an easy thing to do.
I'd take a welded steel baseplate & armature. :D
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Regarding the stretch goals? Like I mentioned earlier, I get concerned about locking characters behind a pay wall. A structure that might work for me?
TIER 1 - Ghost magnetic cargo containers - as seen in the REBELS series, the Ghost could magnetically lock cargo containers to the bottom of the ship's hull. This type of accessory might be seen as similar to the Razor Crest's escape pod
TIER 2 - Hera Syndulla (Star Wars Squadrons look & cardback)
(https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/2229/images/4588/4588-1607577672-335479169.png)
TIER 3 - Chopper in Imperial Disguise
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5fbc4a62c2150e62cfcb09aa/d64ebc25-e884-41cb-9f8a-ab24a1a3643a/Chopper%2BIn%2BDisguise.jpg)
TIER 4 - Crate with Puffer Pig(s)
Some of these just seem like they would work in the context of the vehicle and Haslab theme without putting a main Rebels or Ahsoka character behind the paywall of the Haslab. Collectors will no doubt want to get both a REBELS and an AHSOKA version of Hera and Chopper. These versions are a little more unique / kitsch so that mainline offerings are still a possibility - although it would be cool to get a version of Chopper in the Imperial paint scheme!
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https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-the-ghost
$499.99
The Ghost with Hera Syndulla (Rebels cardback) and Phantom II shuttle.
Base - 8000 backers to fund
Tier 1 - 11000 backers = Ezra Bridger on Rebels cardback
Tier 2 - 14000 backers = Kanan Jarrus on Rebels cardback
Tier 3 - 17000 backers = Garazeb "Zeb" Orrelios on Rebels cardback
(where are Sabine and Chopper?!?)
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And... Backed.
It looks ******* great. I almost picked up a second to hold onto for a rainy day, but am going with 1 for now. $499.99 feels like a steal, I was expecting $599.99+
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OMG! It's fantastic! And $500 - $100 below a lot of the predictions!
I think I might back 2
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Now is the time to get Pulse Premium if you don't already have it. Better to pay $50 for Pulse Premium and get free shipping for a year than just paying $50+ for shipping on The Ghost.
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OMG! It's fantastic! And $500 - $100 below a lot of the predictions!
I think I might back 2
I am really feeling like adding a second, I may wait a few weeks just to space out the cost. I'll probably end up just taking the figures from the second set and then selling off the Ghost itself.
It's already at almost 1,500 backers. I do wonder if this gets fully back quick enough if they'd consider adding a carded 'Rebels' Sabine & a carded 'Rebels' Chopper to the set. It'd be a bummer not to get those.
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Wow. The numbers are climbing fast on this. I think it only took Razor Crest a day to back. This might be on a similar trajectory.
Love we get a Phantom II. Has anyone heard if Phantom 1 would fit as well if you want to interchange them?
I'm assuming we'll get a Sabine and Ahsoka figure in the mainline release soonish, so they probably left them out of the unlock tiers.
Overall I think this looks fantastic.
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I am really feeling like adding a second, I may wait a few weeks just to space out the cost. I'll probably end up just taking the figures from the second set and then selling off the Ghost itself.
You only get charged once the campaign ends.
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I’m ashamed to admit I hesitated at least five or six seconds before backing this. ;D
I couldn’t even finish looking at all the pictures, just YES…
Come home to papa! Let’s do this thing! :D
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Haven’t posted in a while and I come back on to see the Haslab Ghost… Amazing! And I’ve still never found a decent spot for the Razor Crest, lol. Like others have said, I’m kind of tempted to back two… But again, really awesome to see this.
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I'm assuming we'll get a Sabine and Ahsoka figure in the mainline release soonish, so they probably left them out of the unlock tiers.
The Panel revealed TVC figures of Ahsoka and Sabine from the Ahsoka show, so they are definitely coming on but Ahsoka cardbacks. I am guessing Sabine and Chopper on the Rebels Art cardbacks are planned for release somewhere (extra Ghost tiers?) or this is a really stupid sub-line to just do 4 of the 6 main Rebels crew on those specific style cardbacks.
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Now is the time to get Pulse Premium if you don't already have it. Better to pay $50 for Pulse Premium and get free shipping for a year than just paying $50+ for shipping on The Ghost.
I’m glad to see I was not duped because this is exactly what I did, I was hoping in my excitement I did not misread something, but yeah seems like a no brainer, right?
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Love we get a Phantom II. Has anyone heard if Phantom 1 would fit as well if you want to interchange them?
It sounds like they cannot, unfortunately. Someone asked that during the Q&A at the end of the panel.
I am really feeling like adding a second, I may wait a few weeks just to space out the cost. I'll probably end up just taking the figures from the second set and then selling off the Ghost itself.
You only get charged once the campaign ends.
Oh right, duh. I guess that doesn't really change anything for me though. Still thinking about adding another, but I will give it a few days to decide for sure.
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Now is the time to get Pulse Premium if you don't already have it. Better to pay $50 for Pulse Premium and get free shipping for a year than just paying $50+ for shipping on The Ghost.
I’m glad to see I was not duped because this is exactly what I did, I was hoping in my excitement I did not misread something, but yeah seems like a no brainer, right?
The Pulse Premium subscription essentially pays for itself in saving you the shipping expenses on just this Haslab!
Already at 1800+ backers, and it's been less than an hour since this was announced.
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Up to 2400
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Smart to let the rumor be $600 and then list it at $500
It's going to hit 8,000 by the end of the day at that rate. I'm backing it now...
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Hell it's jumped 400 in the last ten minutes...
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I am really feeling like adding a second, I may wait a few weeks just to space out the cost. I'll probably end up just taking the figures from the second set and then selling off the Ghost itself.
You only get charged once the campaign ends.
True, but Hasbro has been consistent about doing the 1 day charge that hits whatever account you charge this on, which means it could bounce a checking account if you weren't planning on that charge hitting right away.
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It’s been live for about five hours and it’s halfway backed.
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Although I have no idea where I will put it, I backed as well. I passed on the Joe Dragonfly knowing this was likely up next, and I loved the Rebels show, crew, and this ship in general. I’ll just have to figure out where it will go. I’ve had to pack away most of my vehicles just due to lack of space, with basically just the Falcon and other two Haslabs out (and the Landspeeder/Snowspeeder since they are small enough to fit in the figure cases). Space issues aside, it really does look outstanding. Still a chunk of change, but I honestly expected it to be higher.
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If these figures really are released identically on Ahsoka cards, selling the Rebels ones will be an easy way recoup a lot of this cost… I bet about half.
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If these figures really are released identically on Ahsoka cards, selling the Rebels ones will be an easy way recoup a lot of this cost… I bet about half.
I don’t know, it sounded int the panel like they said the tooling for the figures themselves was going to be entirely unique to the Ghost set, not just the cardbacks. But they’ve gone back on that kind of thing before.
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Interesting, I didn’t manage to listen to any of it and am still getting caught up. Could be a ploy to drive backers…
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Ah **** it. It's only money. I backed The Ghost. I have no idea where I'm going to put it, but I guess I have a year+ to figure that out.
4455 backers so far...
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Woke up to about 5,300.
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Closing in on 6,000 backers in under 24 hours! And I haven’t even gotten my order in yet.
I’m also fairly certain that the tier unlock figures are not going to be locked behind a paywall. I saw the term “Exclusive Packaging” attached to them, and I’m fairly certain that it refers to the Mural artwork on the cardbacks. I’m not sure if any of the accessories might be exclusive though. That was a thing with the Razor Crest figures.
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I preordered last night.
I'm hoping that each of these figures will be getting a main line release like the figures for the Barge. I'm not sure I want to open these.
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I'm almost considering doing three now... I was pretty bummed to miss out on both the Crest & the Barge. It's now been about a year since the release of the Razor Crest and they are going for at least $800 on eBay, and $600+ for only the ship & the Barge is going for $2,000+. I think I'd want to do one set for myself, keep the figures carded from the second set, & then keep the third set MIP as an extra to sell/trade for a Barge/Crest in a few years. And if they end up rereleasing the figures I can just sell the whole second set as well.
Unless Fioloni decides to blow up the Ghost in Ahsoka (each of the other HasLab vehicles blew up on screen... :-X ), I'm sure there will be people who skip it now but change their mind and want the Ghost when the Thrawn movie comes out in a few years.
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Closing in on 6,000 backers in under 24 hours! And I haven’t even gotten my order in yet.
I’m also fairly certain that the tier unlock figures are not going to be locked behind a paywall.
In the panel they said:
Hera:
"this version of her costume is exclusive to HasLab, won't ever get it anywhere else"
"HasLab exclusive Kalikori totem"
Ezra:
"this version of the costume is unique"
"HasLab exclusive details"
Kanan:
"Season 4 appearance exclusive to the HasLab campaign"
To me it sounds like these Season 4 looks are what will be exclusive to HasLab. My guess is we will see the characters on a different Rebels card in the mainline, but definitely not all of these accessories and definitely with tweaks (which would match up to what they did with the Razor Crest - Grogu and Jawa in the mainline, but not 100% the same figure/accessories).
Like Ezra having a tweaked torso to remove the Season 4 collar and then losing the lothcat and Scout Helmet for the basic release in Season 2/3 colors or something.
Again though, like others have said, never say never when it comes to Hasbro. Plans change and all that.
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Unless Fioloni decides to blow up the Ghost in Ahsoka (each of the other HasLab vehicles blew up on screen... :-X ), I'm sure there will be people who skip it now but change their mind and want the Ghost when the Thrawn movie comes out in a few years.
You can see the Ghost in the final battle of Rise of Skywalker, so I think we're ok. Of course the ship not blowing up could mean there won't be enough backers. What are we at now??? ;D
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I just backed 1 Ghost. And the tally is at 6871.
I had originally thought about buying more than 1 Ghost. Part of the reason was the figures, and wanting to keep a set carded and having another to open. But then I noticed in the copy for the campaign that it appears that the exclusive aspect of these figures is going to be the Ghost crew mural art from the final episode of the series. Perhaps there's going to be an exclusive accessory or two with the figures - maybe Ezra's helmet or the Kanan alternate head from "Jedi Night". But it's my belief that these figures are all going to make it into the mainline, just on different cardbacks and some slight differences.
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I just backed 1 Ghost. And the tally is at 6871.
I had originally thought about buying more than 1 Ghost. Part of the reason was the figures, and wanting to keep a set carded and having another to open. But then I noticed in the copy for the campaign that it appears that the exclusive aspect of these figures is going to be the Ghost crew mural art from the final episode of the series. Perhaps there's going to be an exclusive accessory or two with the figures - maybe Ezra's helmet or the Kanan alternate head from "Jedi Night". But it's my belief that these figures are all going to make it into the mainline, just on different cardbacks and some slight differences.
I backed during the live stream, but I'm considering another one. Have you seen the prices of the Sail Barge Yakface? The figures can definitely help you recoup costs, and the entire package (ship and figures) will only go up in value.
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To me the Sail Barge is like vintage Kenner, Razor Crest and Ghost are like the modern line...
No one was buying extras of the Sail Bare to flip. I think it capped out at like 8,800... everyone wanted it later when they realized how awesome an scarce it was.
Razor Crest sold nearly 29,000 - TONS of people bought extras to flip. While they're pricey, they're still something you can get brand new for $600 or so now as opposed to $2500 or more for a Sail Barge.
I have to imagine Ghost will be similar when it's all said and done. Maybe they won't sell 30,000 of them... but I don't think it's demand will ever rival the Sail Barge's.
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Closing in on 7300 this morning! Gaining 400 backers overnight is a good sign. I think this is probably going to back within the next 24 hours. As for the stretch goals? I think we have to wait and see how the rate of backer increase develops over the next week or so.
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At this point, I have to skip this one. The Barge and Razor Crest take up enough space as it is. I'm really trying to cut back. If space wasn't an issue, I would probably jump on board.
I guess the main issue is the figures. It would be nice if they would just come out and say, these will be re-released on different cardbacks minus an accessory like they did with the off world jawa. You certainly want open figures to display in this thing and you also want the entire crew. It would suck to have to open the pack-ins.
I would guess if this hits strech goal 1 or 2, they announce the Sabine and Chopper carded stretch goals. If Hasbro were smart, they would release a six pack set of the stretch goal figures somewhere around the release of the Ghost. Just repacks of all these figures minus a few the accessories. You get the whole crew in one shot.
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In the panel they said:
Hera:
"this version of her costume is exclusive to HasLab, won't ever get it anywhere else"
"HasLab exclusive Kalikori totem"
Ezra:
"this version of the costume is unique"
"HasLab exclusive details"
Kanan:
"Season 4 appearance exclusive to the HasLab campaign"
In all the fan interviews I have seen so far, Hasbro keeps saying that these particular Season 4 versions of the Rebels crew are only available in the HasLab. Here's an example:
"Those cardbacks are exclusive to the HasLab. These versions of the figures, the later season looks, seasons 3 and 4, are exclusive to the HasLab. No current plans to release then in any other capacity." (https://youtu.be/kCpmqdrzaP8?t=270)
I guess it all comes down to whether or not you believe what Hasbro says.
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In the panel they said:
Hera:
"this version of her costume is exclusive to HasLab, won't ever get it anywhere else"
"HasLab exclusive Kalikori totem"
Ezra:
"this version of the costume is unique"
"HasLab exclusive details"
Kanan:
"Season 4 appearance exclusive to the HasLab campaign"
In all the fan interviews I have seen so far, Hasbro keeps saying that these particular Season 4 versions of the Rebels crew are only available in the HasLab. Here's an example:
"Those cardbacks are exclusive to the HasLab. These versions of the figures, the later season looks, seasons 3 and 4, are exclusive to the HasLab. No current plans to release then in any other capacity." (https://youtu.be/kCpmqdrzaP8?t=270)
I guess it all comes down to whether or not you believe what Hasbro says.
Huh...I just figured they were doing the Yakface thing again, but that checks out.
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Hasbro is not going to leave money on the table. Virtually everyone who buys the Ghost are going to buy these figures separately in order to leave the ones with the Ghost on their special cards. All these figures with the exception of Kanan are going to show up in live-action media if they have not already.
Now, they may not come with a Kalikori or albino lothcat but you're going to see these figures again.
Looking at the numbers, we're up to 7,357 backers. Should be fully backed by tomorrow at this rate.
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Back from limbo. Thanks for manually resetting my password, Jeff. (I changed the password then tested the "forgot password"/renew section but still not getting an email in my regular and junk folder. Wonder if I somehow activated a block on my email account?)
Anywhoo, I guess time will tell if the changes Hasbro cited in their panel (which I didn't see) is a re-tooling or something like a costume item that's GLUED in one version and not the other. As an opener, I find figure changes preferable to the omission of an accessory or packaging change for the non-exclusive, though I feel bad for the collectors not backing the ship and who wants the accessory or card and who'll need to buy them at a premium on the open market.
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Back from limbo. Thanks for manually resetting my password, Jeff. (I changed the password then tested the "forgot password"/renew section but still not getting an email in my regular and junk folder. Wonder if I somehow activated a block on my email account?)
I think it is a hotmail issue - there are other times when our server generated emails are blocked/bounced as spam by hotmail and never make it to the users local in-box.
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The Ghost is currently only ~350 backers away from being funded.
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My only question now is if there will be more than four tiers.
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We're at 7857 as of 8:00 am ET. I think we're going to hit the backing goal today. As for the first stretch goal? Hmmm...
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My only question now is if there will be more than four tiers.
I am leaning towards Ryan's guess from a few pages back -
I do wonder if this gets fully back quick enough if they'd consider adding a carded 'Rebels' Sabine & a carded 'Rebels' Chopper to the set.
I am hoping that if it gets far enough along fast enough, they will add in Tier 4 Sabine and Tier 5 Chopper. (Mainly because I'd just like them here and not have to pay $40 to get them somewhere else :P).
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as of right now we're sitting at 7,899. 101 to go until it's backed.
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64 to go!
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Funded.
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Funded.
Old man 3.75" collectors win again. It only took about ~91 hours for 3.75" nerds to pony up $4million dollars. $4,000,000 dollars.
That is incredible if you stop and think about it. Bring on a HasLab Mos Eisley Cantina next!
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Funded.
Old man 3.75" collectors win again. It only took about ~91 hours for 3.75" nerds to pony up $4million dollars. $4,000,000 dollars.
That is incredible if you stop and think about it. Bring on a HasLab Mos Eisley Cantina next!
We actually did it with all the other SW preorders flooding in as well. I think it was foolish for Hasbro to time this around the same point that the Boba Fett's Fatuna palace is arriving, but it seems to have worked!
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Bring on a HasLab Mos Eisley Cantina next!
No need to Haslab that. Just give us a few months and then take preorders for it just like Jabba’s Palace.
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1. Death Star Playset
2. Star Destroyer
3. Mos Eisley Cantina
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Old man 3.75" collectors win again. It only took about ~91 hours for 3.75" nerds to pony up $4million dollars. $4,000,000 dollars.
That is incredible if you stop and think about it. Bring on a HasLab Mos Eisley Cantina next!
I hope somebody at Hasbro finally is getting a clue. TVC works for haslab projects. Everything else has failed. Just stick with TVC.
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I’m passing on the Ghost due to space issues but would 1000% buy a Cantina, great idea Jeff
I’d also buy:
Yavin Base with Tactical Table
Sarlacc with attachments for the Barge and Skiffs
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I hope somebody at Hasbro finally is getting a clue. TVC works for haslab projects. Everything else has failed. Just stick with TVC.
While I agree that TVC is definitely a winner for Haslab. I still feel the Rancor would've made it if Hasbro hadn't botched the campaign so badly. Reva's Lightsaber should never have been a Haslab campaign.
Now that the Ghost is backed....I'm now wondering if the ship does blow up in Ahsoka! :o
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I'm now wondering if the ship does blow up in Ahsoka! :o
The Ghost can be seen as one of the easter eggs at the Battle of Exegol in TROS. (Confirmed by the TROS novelization (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/3/17/21183664/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-novel)).
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1r86JDWcAExWOu.jpg)
Of course, they could always decide to rewrite canon to continue the tradition of HasLab ships with an explosive on-screen demise. ;)
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I'm now wondering if the ship does blow up in Ahsoka! :o
The Ghost can be seen as one of the easter eggs at the Battle of Exegol in TROS. (Confirmed by the TROS novelization (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/3/17/21183664/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-novel)).
Of course, they could always decide to rewrite canon to continue the tradition of HasLab ships with an explosive on-screen demise. ;)
Honestly, even knowing Disney would never do this, I was hoping that they'd play with the 'World Between Worlds' in "Ahsoka" allowing the heors to help put a stop to the First Order before it really begins, effectively erasing all of the Sequel cannon & allowing them to start over with Filoni/Favreau or someone else at the helm.
But given that there is a Rey movie confirmed to be on its way, we can pretty much rule that out.
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Great to see this funded so quickly. The more I look at the interior though I really am starting to notice what is not there. Where is Sabine’s funky painted bedroom? Or the doors? Where is the docking bay where they could just jump out of the bottom of the ship? That bay had a ladder and two separate levels too.
I know we didn’t see a lot of the barge but it seems like they did a pretty screen accurate version of the Razor Crest. I guess it must just be a space issue with the Ghost?
Not being backwards compatible with the Phantom I seems like a huge gaffe too. That was a no brainer.
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I'm now wondering if the ship does blow up in Ahsoka! :o
The Ghost can be seen as one of the easter eggs at the Battle of Exegol in TROS. (Confirmed by the TROS novelization (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/3/17/21183664/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-novel)).
Of course, they could always decide to rewrite canon to continue the tradition of HasLab ships with an explosive on-screen demise. ;)
I just couldn't resist the snark. ;D
Honestly, even knowing Disney would never do this, I was hoping that they'd play with the 'World Between Worlds' in "Ahsoka" allowing the heors to help put a stop to the First Order before it really begins, effectively erasing all of the Sequel cannon & allowing them to start over with Filoni/Favreau or someone else at the helm.
But given that there is a Rey movie confirmed to be on its way, we can pretty much rule that out.
I can guarantee that even if they go to the World Between Worlds again, they won't do something that erases Carrie Fisher's final Star Wars movies. Besides, everything we've seen in the Mandalorian and Bad Batch so far has hinted at the rise of the First and Final Orders.
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I think the Filoni will end up doing what he did with the Prequels and make things more cohesive. Say what you will about the Clone Wars show, they tied up some loose ends on the Prequels really nicely.
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Getting closer to 9k. Not bad for the first week!
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There's definitely been some forward progress. I'm hoping that there will be enough backers by next week to secure Ezra and tier 1. As for Kanan and Zeb? We'll see how things go.
These campaigns tend to function in surges though - very often centered around some kind of promotion. I can see the potential for things to pick up as the promotion for the AHSOKA series picks up. But that could be kind of muted on account of the SAG/AFTRA strike. Actors are not doing promotion work during the strike. Directors have been doing that, but it's usually a little more low key. Still, I can see some kind of big article in USA Today about the Ghost Haslab - Hasbro has a long history of promoting big projects with them. And then the AHSOKA series will have aired 4 episodes by the time the Haslab campaign comes to an end. That could drive the push towards 17,000!
***REQUISITE HAN SOLO QUOTE: "17,000? These guys must really be desperate!"
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I wanted to re-create the scene where the crew first saw Fulcrum. But in hindsight, that would've made the ship to big.
As for the count, it's nice we get a bonus for goals met, but when first announced, the sales count felt impossible for Zeb and a maybe for Kanan. It'd be cool if we don't have to buy them, though I'm sure they'll see the light of day if the numbers aren't met.
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9158 as of this morning. Things have slowed, but still growing...
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I bet it picks up again when Ahsoka starts airing.
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Definitely slowed a bit...we now have to average 212 new backers per day to get to 17,000 by the deadline.
I'm not worried though, they recently opened up Thailand and there's always a pickup when there's new media and a surge at the end.
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I think the price, size, and timing of this item might create a bit of a challenge in having huge numbers backing it like The Razor Crest did. I really don't think we're going to hit all the unlocks on this one and hope they find a way to include Zeb even if we don't make it that far.
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Definitely slowed a bit...we now have to average 212 new backers per day to get to 17,000 by the deadline.
I'm not worried though, they recently opened up Thailand and there's always a pickup when there's new media and a surge at the end.
I decided to back a second Ghost this afternoon. While this won't ever be quite as valuable as the Barge, I am still hoping that this will help cover my costs if a few years.
Still on the fence if I want to do a third, and will probably only due it if we are closer to the other unlocks.
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9158 as of this morning. Things have slowed, but still growing...
9478 after two weeks... still moving in the right direction. 806+ hours left.
Tier needs:
1522 to unlock Ezra - 1.89 backer/hr needed (45.3/day)
4522 to unlock Kanan - 5.61 backer/hr needed (134.7/day)
7522 to unlock Zeb - 9.33 backer/hr needed (234/day)
(I know these tend to start strong, dip in the middle, and ramp up strong at the end but I like doing the math weekly anyway. ;))
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We're definitely in the lull phase. I expect it to pick up when the Ghost shows up in Ahsoka and then more jumps when we see the characters. Plus there's always the surge at the end.
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I'm still likely to order a second one, but I haven't decided yet. It probably depends on how many are bought towards the end, because if it's not a lot, I'm more interested in buying two. If they sell 30,000 again (not likely I Know) I'm less interested in getting one to trade or flip later.
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There's some confusing information circulating around about the campaign regarding the total number of backers across multiple regions. Someone emailed Hasbro's Customer Service asking about the number of international backers, and how those totals would impact the campaign. Hasbro's response was that the Asian market backers would be added to the number for the US, UK & EU at the end of the campaign.
If you browse to the Hasbro Pulse stores in Asia (I went to the Hong Kong page) the number of backers right now is listed as 9,364. But if you check the US, UK & EU version of the store the number of backers is listed as 9,523. The numbers are oddly close to one another - less than 200 apart. But if those numbers are to be believed, they come to a combined total of close to 19,000 backers! That would unlock all of the tiers. The guys at the TVC Facebook group commented on this, and they're evidently reaching out to Hasbro's PR group for clarification on this.
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Marketing at it's finest. If they truly have 19,000 backers (which is entirely possible they do) they would almost be forced to create more tiers. Frankly, I'm still hoping they will make a Phantom 1 for this thing.
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I'm hoping for a Phantom I as well. But I think Hasbro will probably want to make one that they can sell on its own for over $100 at a later date.
The totals seem too close to each other to be a coincidence. But if the Asian market Hasbro Pulse numbers for those sites - Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia & Taiwan - are distinct and separate from the US/UK/EU totals? Hasbro would seem to have an ethical obligation to be transparent about that to the people who have agreed to back the campaign. But if they're keeping the regional totals as they are in an effort to play into collector FOMO? That's some bull****.
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Isn’t it more likely that one of the pages isn’t updated and the 9,xxx is the total worldwide?
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It's probably a matter of synching the numbers. Either a glitch in the overall tally getting to the Asia HP sites or a timing episode. I can't imagine that region would have the collectors to rival the US, much less the US and Europe, to put up those sales.
I didn't know hasbropulse was made available to the Asia market a few months ago. Glad to see that.
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It would take a junior programmer a couple of minutes to get a data feed on an hourly basis and incorporate those numbers in to a global total.
I'm not sure if Hasbro is being devious or is just incompetent.
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I'm not sure if Hasbro is being devious or is just incompetent.
It's been my experience that they are far too incompetent to be intentionally devious.
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I'm not sure if Hasbro is being devious or is just incompetent.
It's been my experience that they are far too incompetent to be intentionally devious.
LOL! Witness the Black Series Rancor Haslab leak!
There's still a discrepancy in the Asian numbers and the US/UK/EU numbers. I thought perhaps they would be evened out once the work week began, but that hasn't been the case. And there's also the numbers for Australia and New Zealand that will be added towards the end of the campaign. I think EB Games has partnered with someone to bring the Ghost to interested backers in both of those markets.
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We're at 9,977 this morning. There's the potential that we could cross 10,000 backers some time today. But things are really creeping slowly towards that first tier of 11,000.
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I expect a good jump in about two weeks.
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Same. I also bet it’ll pick up once one unlock gets hit.
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The unlocks are all gravy to me. I'm just glad it funded.
I think they'll make all these figures for retail anyhow, just maybe not on the funky card backs and maybe with different accessories.
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I just figure the more unique figures in the set, the more carded collectors FOMO will pick up.
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I just figure the more unique figures in the set, the more carded collectors FOMO will pick up.
Agreed. There might be a bit of a snowball effect if we can start picking up some more backers and more carded figures. Those carded guys have helped fund my collection by selling off unique cards of mostly repacked figures (Yakface).
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9,999!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3I14UPWwAESl0X?format=webp&name=medium)
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Missed the counter but we passed 10k. Jeff's screenshot is better. :P
(https://i.imgur.com/A4itTcp.png)
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The tiers should have been 10, 12, and 14 thousand backers. I can’t tell you how annoying it is going to be having only 2 or 3 of the crew on these special cardbacks and the remaining ones on something different. Collector OCD does not like that, nope. :D
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I took a few minutes to look at the new figures in the unlocks and noticed something unexpected with Ezra.
I'm not an expert on every Ezra figure ever released and every episode of Rebels, but it looks like the Ezra figure includes a DL-44 Han Solo style blaster as well as a "regular" lightsaber. I don't think any figure of his has ever had those accessories and I don't recall him ever using that type of blaster (or really any blaster other than a stolen imperial rifle) or lightsaber other than his own funky customer blaster/lightsaber combo. Unlit I think it looks like a manual staple gun.
The figure is on a Rebels card, but I don't think these accessories are right for his Rebels adventures. Maybe he shows up in the Ahsoka show using these items, but it seems off for Rebels.
The other figures shown - Hera, Kanan, and Zeb all seem to be accurate to their Rebels characters though.
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it looks like the Ezra figure includes a DL-44 Han Solo style blaster as well as a "regular" lightsaber. I don't think any figure of his has ever had those accessories and I don't recall him ever using that type of blaster (or really any blaster other than a stolen imperial rifle) or lightsaber other than his own funky customer blaster/lightsaber combo. Unlit I think it looks like a manual staple gun.
This Ezra is based on his Rebels Season 3/4 look - shorter hair, no jacket. I think it was Season 3 where Ezra got his new green-bladed lightsaber (https://www.starwars.com/databank/ezra-s-lightsaber)that replaced the stapler-gun hilt blue lightsaber (which Vader destroyed). It was around this same time that he started wearing a holster with the Solo-esque DL44 style blaster as well.
(side note - I have been re-watching Rebels in advance of Ahsoka and realized that I forgot a lot of these details myself until I started re-watching the show.)
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Thanks Jeff. I totally forgot that his stapler-gun blue lightsaber got destroyed.
I probably have to re-watch the last season and refresh my memory on a lot of this leading in to Ahsoka.
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I've been trying to watch one Rebels season a week leading into Ahsoka. I'm on Season 3 now this week. Season 4 will be next week and then the premier week I'm going to try to watch the Ahsoka TM/TBOBF episodes.
The Rebels rewatch has been pretty fun. Made me realize how much I forgot (and just how many established characters show up - Vader, Maul, Obi-Wan, Lando, C-3PO, R2-D2, Leia and more - and people say TM is pandering to the fans :P). It's really impressive how much that show grew from those first few episodes. Both the stories and the animation got better as the show went along I think.
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I'm in the midst of a REBELS re-watch, too. The first half of season 1 is probably the toughest bit to get through, but the show picked up steam after that. I'm currently about 2/3rds of the way through season 2 and the show really stands out for some great storytelling and well developed characters. Watching Ahsoka's character during this season is great because I think it's an excellent starting point for how she will be presented in the upcoming series.
The re-watch has also been great for getting re-acquainted with the Ghost! The ship really is fantastic! And I think Hasbro really captured the interior spaces well with their design. In the show the lounge area and galley are separate spaces, but I think Hasbro's choice to combine them worked. And while I had been hopeful that the cargo bay would be a feature, I accept that particular design compromise.
The only critiques? First, hatches. All of them are wide open. It makes me wonder, were pocket door hatches were impractical? They would have been a nice addition to the cockpit as well as to the crew quarters. Plus, a ladder. It might go to nowhere, but IIRC there were ladders to the dorsal turret as well as to the accessway to the Phantom.
Beyond that? I am hopeful that Hasbro will consider producing a new Vintage Collection Phantom I vehicle that can dock in the shuttle port. The REBELS one is dated and a product of where the line was in 2014. And it might be something more accessible for people who might not be able to afford the Haslab Ghost.
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9158 as of this morning. Things have slowed, but still growing...
9478 after two weeks... still moving in the right direction. 806+ hours left.
10079 after three weeks. 635+ hours left.
Tier needs:
921 to unlock Ezra - 1.45 backer/hr needed (34.8/day)
3921 to unlock Kanan - 6.17 backer/hr needed (148.2/day)
6921 to unlock Zeb - 10.9 backer/hr needed (261.6/day)
(I know these tend to start strong, dip in the middle, and ramp up strong at the end but I like doing the math weekly anyway. ;))
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It looks like things might be picking up a bit over the past 24 hours. It's currently at 10,446. Ezra could get locked in this week if it continues.
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Jayson was doing a push on Yakface to tell people that were on the fence to go ahead and back it, and if they change their mind to cancel it later. The momentum will start building more that way.
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Jayson was doing a push on Yakface to tell people that were on the fence to go ahead and back it, and if they change their mind to cancel it later. The momentum will start building more that way.
Jayson is basically reiterating what was on Bantha Skull. Great points made by both. If you going to back the Ghost, go ahead and pledge now. That way Hasbro has an accurate accounting of the popularity of this project and if all the goals are hit early enough, it gives them a chance to add more.
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Jayson was doing a push on Yakface to tell people that were on the fence to go ahead and back it, and if they change their mind to cancel it later. The momentum will start building more that way.
Jayson is basically reiterating what was on Bantha Skull. Great points made by both. If you going to back the Ghost, go ahead and pledge now. That way Hasbro has an accurate accounting of the popularity of this project and if all the goals are hit early enough, it gives them a chance to add more.
I think Hasbro put out some updated images of The Ghost's deco on Instagram yesterday, too. Bossk's Bounty had a nice video showing them off.
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Maybe I’ll just order like 2,000 of them then cancel them later to get things greased.
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10,563 right now. Tier 1 and Ezra still seem within reach, but at this pace the campaign is gaining just over 50 backers per day.
Evidently the AHSOKA series is now going to drop on Tuesday nights at 9 PM ET / 6 PM PT. Once that happens I think we’re going to see a surge in the number of people backing the Ghost.
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10,667. The pace is picking up! Could it be from the increase in promotional video for AHSOKA? Or because we’re finally getting closer to the Tier 1 goal?
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Got side-tracked at work last Friday and forgot my weekly update so doing it today instead...
9158 as of this morning. Things have slowed, but still growing...
9478 after two weeks... still moving in the right direction. 806+ hours left.
10079 after three weeks. 635+ hours left.
10792 after four+ weeks. ~396 hours left.
Tier needs:
208 to unlock Ezra - 0.53 backer/hr needed (12.6/day)
3208 to unlock Kanan - 8.10 backer/hr needed (194.4/day)
6208 to unlock Zeb - 15.68 backer/hr needed (376.2/day)
We are definitely in the mid-cycle lull on this thing. Let's do some comparisons, shall we?
Sail Barge:
~2 weeks to go: 2828
Final = 8825
(Granted this was the first one so maybe the comparison isn't fair)
Razor Crest:
~2 weeks to go: 12339
Final = 28111
Dragonfly:
~2 weeks to go: ~14000
Final = 24764
I guess what I'm trying to show is that historically a ****-ton of backers show up in the last two weeks.... of course, those other recent projects were cheaper than $500. I still think 17k is totally do-able though.
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There's some additional information about the foreign markets to process.
-Hasbro Pulse Asian backers (HK, Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia) - the numbers for these sites lag behind those of the Hasbro Pulse US/UK/EU sites. The total global Hasbro Pulse backer numbers are reflected on the US version of the site. I know some had been hopeful that those Asian numbers stood on their own, and that there might have already been over 20,000 backers globally and Hasbro was keeping that to themselves, but that isn't the case. The totals on the Asian Pulse sites just are not synced up with the others.
-The numbers for Australia and New Zealand will get processed towards the end of the campaign. EB Games is taking orders for that region and will be submitting those as the campaign wraps up. That's going to lead to a bump in the totals.
We're now at 10,797 - 203 to go for Ezra!
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TIER 1 UNLOCKED! The campaign hit 11,000 backers just a few minutes ago, so Ezra Bridger is coming home with the Ghost!
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TIER 1 UNLOCKED! The campaign hit 11,000 backers just a few minutes ago, so Ezra Bridger is coming home with the Ghost!
Let the snowballing begin!
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Glad we are getting Ezra, even if it doesn’t look anything like him lol. (Ezra literally never parted his hair on that show even one time)
Still wish they had just set the tiers at 10, 12, and 14. Then they could have added additional ones for Chopper and Sabine if it started surging.
If it shows up on the show tonight, I’m expecting at least a little bump from that. :)
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Glad we are getting Ezra, even if it doesn’t look anything like him lol. (Ezra literally never parted his hair on that show even one time)
The Hera and Ezra head sculpts are based on the live-action actors' heads, not the cartoon (even though the figures are supposed to be wearing Rebels Season 3/4 outfits).
I get what they are doing, but that means the Ezra head is like 10 years older than what he should have been on that particular body. I wish they would have just gone the extra mile and given us a live-action head and a Rebels Season 3/4 hairstyle head.
The way they like to double-dip and re-use things maybe we'll get that eventually anyway.
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Yikes… not much ammunition to support a quick spike for this campaign in the two episodes that aired tonight. I hope that ship shows up in a meaningful way next week or that Ahsoka bump is going to be a dud.
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Yikes… not much ammunition to support a quick spike for this campaign in the two episodes that aired tonight. I hope that ship shows up in a meaningful way next week or that Ahsoka bump is going to be a dud.
I too was surprised we didn't even catch a glimpse of The Ghost in the first two episodes. At least we got some good Phantom II action.
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There is a blink and you'll miss it shot of the Ghost in the hangar of Home One. I'm guessing we'll see her next week.
Looks like the numbers for the Ghost are still rising. I'm confident Zeb will be unlocked, but that will be the final tier.
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There is a blink and you'll miss it shot of the Ghost in the hangar of Home One. I'm guessing we'll see her next week.
Looks like the numbers for the Ghost are still rising. I'm confident Zeb will be unlocked, but that will be the final tier.
To be honest, I'm really just happy with the Ghost and Hera. Don't get me wrong, I want them all, but this is one of those situations where I'm really excited about the actual base offering.
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Let me try to get the sourcing right here:
According to Jayson (via Yakface Twitter (https://twitter.com/yak_face/status/1694726208565682221)), Hasbro confirmed to Bossk's Bounty during a QNA (somewhere, not sure where it was posted) that if the Ghost campaign unlocks Kanan and Zeb, Hasbro will definitely release Chopper and Sabine on Rebels Mural card backs outside of the HasLab campaign.
I feel like that was something we all figured they were planning anyway, but it is nice to get it confirmed to get some FOMO going heading into the last few weeks of the campaign.
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Waiting for the first outlets to start posting their Q&A sessions on YouTube so we can get the information directly from the source.
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New size promo pics from Hasbro. The fact that The Ghost is going to be bigger than the BMF really blows my mind. It is so much bigger than most people realize, I think.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4UqlyJXQAATFW-.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4UqlyIXEAAKLsX.jpg)
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When this thing arrives my wife is going to roll her eyes at me so bad they're going to get stuck facing her brain.
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Holy ****! Where am I going to put this??
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Waiting for the first outlets to start posting their Q&A sessions on YouTube so we can get the information directly from the source.
Here is the BanthaSkull Q&A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1StRMsdCY) - 9:38 mark is when Chris talks about the Sabine/Chopper on Mural cards in this particular Q&A session.
There is some other good info in here too.
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When this thing arrives my wife is going to roll her eyes at me so bad they're going to get stuck facing her brain.
This is exactly what my experience will be.
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9158 as of this morning. Things have slowed, but still growing...
9478 after two weeks... still moving in the right direction. 806+ hours left.
10079 after three weeks. 635+ hours left.
10792 after four+ weeks. ~396 hours left.
11392 after five weeks. ~299.5 hours left.
Tier needs:
2608 to unlock Kanan
5608 to unlock Zeb
I am still pretty confident we can get to Zeb. I guess we just wait and see...
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I'll probably do my part and buy a second one to sell later. For the cause.
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I feel like the hourly rate has jumped up a bit over the past week or so, but maybe I'm just paying more attention.
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Holy ****! Where am I going to put this??
Exactly my thought after seeing those pics.
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I didn't look this AM before the live stream, but hopefully, the backer-count jumps up significantly after tonight after Ahsoka and working people catch up on the stream and daily news. It was good to get additional confirmation on Rebels Mural Chopper & Sabine (less good that they are going to be an extra purchase on top of everything else...) Hopefully that all snowballs a bit and gets us to the next Tier in the next day or two.
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I’m not holding my breath. Three episodes in and the ship hasn’t even shown up in the show.
Best case scenario now is that it makes an appearance one day before the campaign ends.
What a joke.
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I’m not holding my breath. Three episodes in and the ship hasn’t even shown up in the show.
Best case scenario now is that it makes an appearance one day before the campaign ends.
What a joke.
Oooff. I was honestly a bit surprised by that. It seems like LFL could have worked with them to time that a little better.
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Oh, the ship IS in the show. It's in the hangar in the first episode when Ahsoka's T-6 shuttle lands in the Home One docking bay. But it just hasn't been in any meaningful action outside of the Phantom II in the chase above Correllia.
I think that the timing has been challenging for a number of factors:
-Lucasfilm's promotional rollout for Ahsoka largely started at SDCC. And it was the natural time for Hasbro to launch the Haslab campaign
-When was Disney+ going to launch the Ahsoka series? That's something that Hasbro could not influence
-Tying the campaign to when the ship appears in the Ahsoka series probably would not have the big splash that it did at SDCC
-Haslab campaigns have largely been limited to a 45 day backing window. This is problematic since it doesn't sufficiently overlap with the appearance of the Ghost in the show.
Possible solutions?
-Extend the backing window to 60 days. That will probably overlap with the Ghost being heavily featured in the series
-Could this have been launched at Toy Fair? Toy Fair is now happening in September. But would that be as good a time as SDCC to launch a Haslab campaign?
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Yeah a few background shots ain’t going to convince people on the fence to buy it.
I’ve been watching and didn’t even notice it but once, and it was so far in the background I wasn’t convinced it was the Ghost at all.
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- Extend the backing window to 60 days.
I feel like that would have been the easy solution. (Assuming the Ghost even shows up next week at this point.) Disney has had the premiere date set for a few months now, it wouldn't have been too much of an inconvenience on Hasbro's end to extend the time frame by 15 days. Right now we are on a pace (about 375 daily backers) to unlock Kanan just before the campaign closes and finish with just over 14,000 backers. The extra 15 days and a meaningful appearance of the ship on Ahsoka could have ended up being the difference in this HasLab getting the extra 3000 backers to unlock all of the tiers.
Those 3000 backers would represent $1.5 million in revenue for Hasbro, plus we'd get the option to give them more money for the other mural cards. It seems like the extra 15 days would have been a no-brainer.
These campaigns of course don't fund following a linear trend, as Jeff pointed out earlier. So I'm still holding out a tiny bit of hope that FOMO will get the better of a few thousand people this next week, and we will get to Zeb.
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Wouldn't it be funny (and sad) if Hasbro and Disney didn't talk, or Disney changed their mind and The Ghost isn't really going to be in Ahsoka in a meaningful way??
I know it wouldn't really matter to me and my choice of backing the project, but if they were choosing a HasLab project based on a Ahsoka and their info was wrong.
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The Official Site is promoting the campaign now:
https://www.starwars.com/news/haslab-ghost-interview
As for extending the backing window? It’s still an option. Hasbro extended the Unicron Haslab campaign. In light of how the series is progressing? I think an additional week would probably yield some substantial gains in the number of backers.
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These campaigns of course don't fund following a linear trend, as Jeff pointed out earlier.
Here are some really nice graphs that someone recommended to me - https://geekdadlife.com/brian-brinks-haslab-charts/
If you check out those charts for Dragonfly/HISS and RazorCrest/Ghost you can see just how much funding happens in the FIRST and LAST weeks of a campaign.
Dragonfly ($275) - last week = ~9.7k backers (39% of total)
HISS Tank ($300) - last week = ~8.1k backers (30% of total)
Razor Crest ($375) - last week = ~10.7k backers (38% of total)
The Ghost currently sits at 12103. If we get a last week bump of 30-40%, that will bring us somewhere in the range of 15734-16944 which is really close to Zeb's limit. I really believe Zeb is still achievable at this point. Especially if we can get the official site and Hasbro to get a little push going (today's story on SW.com helps for sure).
And if The Ghost shows up and kicks ass in next week's episode of Ahsoka, one day before the end of the campaign right in that final few days push, that'll be a big help too. It is interesting to note that this HasLab is 48 days (instead of the usual 45) and Hasbro chose to end it timed to next week's episode of Ahsoka. Is that a sign that Episode 4 is the one where The Ghost makes a big splashy entrance to the series? Wait and see, I guess.
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I can't understand the "ooh look at the cool ship on the show, I want to buy one" mentality. Really this is a ship that was featured heavily in a cartoon show. The design of the toy is based off of the cartoon. The figures included are based off of the cartoon. Any appearance in Ahsoka will not have the same impact as seeing the Razor Crest every week on the Mandalorian. I think most collectors are aware of both the ship and the Rebels cartoon. What this really boils down to is the typical fence sitter collector deciding if they want to shell out the money. Personally, I didn't back either the barge or the razor crest until the tiers were unlocked. I think that is what a lot of people are waiting for. Many collectors are completists and would not be happy with an incomplete set of figures on the special cardbacks.
While I enjoyed Rebels and am liking Ahsoka, this campaign just doesn't interest me. Even if I had unlimited space and funds, I still don't know if I would back it. While it is a better choice than their last few failed campaigns, it isn't hitting the collectors sweet spot. Everyone is clamoring for a Death Star or Star Destroyer. Even the Mos Eisley cantina is a better bet. Imagine being able to pull off a cantina set with Tonnika sisters as flex goals?
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"Everyone" is not clamoring for those sets. Maybe I'm the only person who makes it not "everyone". I am not a huge playset person and not a huge fan of the modular giant ship or space station idea. I want large vehicles that wouldn't be sold at retail. The next large space eater to get cut from my collection will most likely be the playsets that are just sections of a ship, building, etc.
I think The Ghost was a very good choice. If possible I too wish they would have been able to match Haslab with the show better for maximum Ghost screen time but honestly don't know the ins and outs of how that works.
For me this could be the Ghost with no add ons and I'd be just fine with that. I'm only responding to Ed's post (and I'm not saying he's saying this) because I'm starting to read more and more " see, told you no one likes non OT stuff and here's proof with the Ghost slowing down so much".
Hasbro just stay away from role play and 6" scale stuff we already have 3.75" scale stuff of and it'll be a good choice, but no matter what they make some big group of us will and won't want to shell out the cash and space.
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I'm starting to read more and more " see, told you no one likes non OT stuff and here's proof with the Ghost slowing down so much".
Yeah, I saw some of those comments and don't get it at all. Like they forgot that non-OT Razor Crest sold 28k units. The Ghost/Rebels interacted with a TON of OT characters (Leia, Lando, Vader, C-3PO, R2-D2) and is all in on OT Rebel Alliance - heck it was in Rogue One, including the battle over Scarif, which is as close to the OT as you can get! ;)
no matter what they make some big group of us will and won't want to shell out the cash and space.
100%. There is no "perfect project" for them to pick. Even stuff that "everyone is clamoring for" will have people that pass. A lot of people want a Mos Eisley Cantina, but would everyone be willing to pay or still "want" it if it's $500? Probably not. Same for a Death Star - "everyone" wants one but I bet "everyone" has a different idea of what it should be, how big it should be, what it should include (DS/DSII/RO), and what they are willing to pay for that.
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I can't imagine the detail a Cantina would have to cost more than twice what this Jabba's Palace set costs... I bet they could do something really really comprehensive for $250 to $300.
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I can't imagine the detail a Cantina would have to cost more than twice what this Jabba's Palace set costs...
Exactly. One person's dream Cantina may not match what another person is wanting/thinking/imagining.
The Cantina could be something as simple as the main bar with the centerpiece/drink dispenser stuff with lots of cups and stools and such for $230 like Jabba's Throne Room. Or, it could be something like the LEGO Mos Eisley Cantina (https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/mos-eisley-cantina-75290) (bar plus alcoves plus booths that folds open) but for Hasbro 3.75" figures. Give it lights and sounds so the Modal Nodes can do their thing. Give it multiple tiers with stuff that is retail poison (Tzizvvt, Tonnikas, etc) and suddenly you're at $500. ;)
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Totally agree on the idea that the "perfect project that everyone wants" doesn't exist. I keep seeing the Cantina and Death Star thrown around, but the playsets are never as good as what fans are already making. For example, the Jabba's Palace (Bib's, Boba's, whatever) is a cool piece, but I have no intention of keeping it, other than the figure, props and throne (so if anyone wants the walls for cheap, let me know). Ditto with the Cantina. I would definitely buy it for the Tonnika Sisters if they were included, but would sell it off since I don't think I'd like it as much as the one I built. It certainly wouldn't have lights.
A Death Star playset always seemed ridiculous to me. It would always look like a big toy, and would never really capture the scale of the thing. I was born in '76, so I'm not a young fan rolling his eyes about the OT by any means.
Ed, one thing I have to ask is why you're choosing to wait until the tiers are unlocked before you back. If everyone does that, then the tiers don't get unlocked. It makes no sense and it's counterintuitive. Obviously it's your choice, but I'm just trying to follow the logic there.
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On the other two vehicles, I waited because I really didn't think it was worth it to back without the extras. The extras for the Ghost are just ok, but not must haves. I like the Ghost fine, but I have been downsizing quite a bit and really don't have the space for another huge ship. It took me over a year to unbox and display the barge. It is packed again since I'm moving and I have no clue when or where I can display it again.
As for OT vs non OT, I would essentially call this and the Razor Crest OT. I think both the Ahsoka series and the Mandalorian series feel a lot more OT then the PT or ST. The Rebels cartoon starts five years before the OT and the other series are a few years afterwards.
My main point is that I don't think the ship showing up in Ahsoka will drive sales. One would have to see how much cross over their is between show viewers and collectors. I don't think a non-collector show viewer is going to buy this thing on a lark, just because it is featured on the show.
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It is definitely at a point in fandom where there is almost nothing that would make everyone happy. We all want a Death Star, or a Cantina, or an Ewok Village…or generally just things that we had or wanted as kids. The thing is, most would not be satisfied if they basically upgraded versions of those. The fandom has gotten to a place where everything has to be hyper detailed, look just like the movie (or multiple movies), and usually super expensive. The stuff looks fantastic, and I love it don’t get me wrong, but so much of the “wonder” of these TOY lines has been lost over the years. It seems like many brands have to try to serve two different demos “a line for the kids, and one for the adults”. The times have changed I know, but I wish we could still have a one line for all approach. Still have fond memories of the POTJ days in that respect.
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9158 as of this morning. Things have slowed, but still growing...
9478 after two weeks... still moving in the right direction. 806+ hours left.
10079 after three weeks. 635+ hours left.
10792 after four+ weeks. ~396 hours left.
11392 after five weeks. ~299.5 hours left.
12929 after six+ weeks. ~85 hours left.
1071 to Kanan, 4071 to Zeb.
Definitely a little worrisome that we haven't see the infamous "last minute FOMO" peak really start to kick in yet... we did better from week 5 to 6 than we had been doing weekly, but I hoped this weekend would have been the start of the FOMO spike. Not yet, I guess.
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It's been a little over an hour since the last tally, and we're at 12,954. That's +25 in 1 hour. If we continue at that pace in the increase in backers, we should see Kanan secured tomorrow. But are we going to hit a big enough FOMO surge by midnight Wednesday to secure Zeb?
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It's going to be close, but I think we'll see Zeb squeak in on this.
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I think they will hit Kanan but Zeb seems like a long shot without some overseas/retail partner shenanigans.
I’d like to think if that happens we will still get him along with Chopper and Sabine on those cards at some point.
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The count is currently at 13,286. It looks like Kanan might be within reach by the deadline. But I haven't seen the numbers begin to really surge yet. And I'm wondering if the Australia / New Zealand orders have been processed yet.
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I think Kanan happens by the end of tomorrow.
I’m not convinced on Zeb at all. Still blown away that this thing was scheduled without the ship having made a meaningful appearance in the show.
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I'm still considering backing a third... I'm going to take a look tomorrow around 6pm, and if we are within 1000 or so of Zeb I may pull the trigger. I don't really want to have a third that won't resell as well without a completed set of mural cardbacks & Season 4 Rebels.
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They're gaining backers at a decent clip right now. Every time I refresh the screen there's 5 - 10 new ones. I think if they keep at this pace, or it increases and couple that with the international orders, we'll be over 17,000 by the end.
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We're at 13,751 right now. I think Kanan could be secured in the next few hours since the rate of increase in the number of backers has been ramping up. From what I understand some of the Australian sites that were taking orders have now submitted their orders, which likely led to the bump we've seen in the past 2 days.
I've been debating getting a second in order to get a set of the figures to keep carded. As much as I really get annoyed when some people of the Hasbro team trot out the word "iconic", in this instance the mural art IS actually iconic! As for the possibility of Zeb being the beneficiary of a late surge? We'll see. His fate and the possibility of Sabine and Chopper coming to the line on Mural cardbacks are in the hands of collectors over the next 2 days.
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HasLab The Ghost Update
13,895 Backers, 36 Hours left!
The Ghost - backed!
Tier 1 Ezra - unlocked!
Tier 2 Kanan - 105 to go!
Tier 3 Zeb - 3105 to go!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-the-ghost
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We're 56 away from unlocking Kanan. I think Zeb will be unlocked at the end.
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13,961 - that's +66 in 1 hour. It looks like the surge has begun. And Tier 2 with Kanan should be unlocked within an hour or less.
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Kanan is now unlocked!
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Khaaaaaan! Er, Kanaaaaaan! ;D
Now to just sit back and see how far this thing goes in the next 34 hours…fingers crossed for some action on tonight’s episode.
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fingers crossed for some action on tonight’s episode.
:o
It's a Disney show... ;)
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Nice. It’s up 100 in the last hour or so. If it keeps accelerating I’ll change my tune about Zeb.
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We just need Ryan to back his third one and we're golden!
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It looks like the final surge is on! We're around +100 an hour right now. Wondering if that's going to increase through the next ~30 hours or so. I guess we'll see tonight around 10 pm ET if there's an even bigger surge, because the Ghost is strongly rumored to be in tonight's episode of AHSOKA.
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HasLab The Ghost Update
14,168 Backers, 33 Hours left!
The Ghost - backed!
Tier 1 Ezra - unlocked!
Tier 2 Kanan - unlocked!
Tier 3 Zeb - 2832 to go!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-the-ghost
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We need about 88 per hour until the end to unlock Zeb. Very doable.
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86 per hour now!
Although I have to think this will slow down at night unless there are more international buyers than I assume there are.
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HasLab The Ghost Update
14,399 Backers, 30 Hours left!
The Ghost - backed!
Tier 1 Ezra - unlocked!
Tier 2 Kanan - unlocked!
Tier 3 Zeb - 2,601 to go!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-the-ghost
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HasLab The Ghost Update
14,647 Backers, 27 Hours left!
The Ghost - backed!
Tier 1 Ezra - unlocked!
Tier 2 Kanan - unlocked!
Tier 3 Zeb - 2,353 to go!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-the-ghost
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We just need Ryan to back his third one and we're golden!
I guess I was thinking it ends today. I’m still on the fence. I’ll sleep on it and see tomorrow evening.
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Do it! Sell it later if you change your mind.
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HasLab The Ghost Update
14,929 Backers, 24 Hours left!
The Ghost - backed!
Tier 1 Ezra - unlocked!
Tier 2 Kanan - unlocked!
Tier 3 Zeb - 2,071 to go!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-the-ghost
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At least we got to see The Ghost in this week’s episode. Not a lot of action took place in / around it but at least we got to see it a bit.
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13,895 Backers, 36 Hours left!
14,929 Backers, 24 Hours left!
We need about 88 per hour until the end to unlock Zeb.
86 per hour now!
Huh...
1034 backers in the last 12 hours = 86/hour.
2071 backers needed in the next 24 hours... 86/hour.
If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd marvel at the fact that the rate we need to unlock Zeb is basically the rate we saw over the last 12 hours today... going to be interesting if 86/hr holds overnight.
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Whoa! 15,554?!?! The surge is on! And that’s 89 per hour during the overnight in North America.
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Right now the count is 15,581 with 16.5 hours to go. We're back at an 86 per hour average. Today is going to be a fun one!
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HasLab The Ghost Update
15,686 Backers, 15 Hours left!
The Ghost - backed!
Tier 1 Ezra - unlocked!
Tier 2 Kanan - unlocked!
Tier 3 Zeb - 1314 to go!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-the-ghost
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Waking up to 15,700… now I feel good about Zeb.
That’s a lot overnight.
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Huh...
1034 backers in the last 12 hours = 86/hour.
2071 backers needed in the next 24 hours... 86/hour.
If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd marvel at the fact that the rate we need to unlock Zeb is basically the rate we saw over the last 12 hours today... going to be interesting if 86/hr holds overnight.
And that’s 89 per hour during the overnight in North America.
We're back at an 86 per hour average.
11pm CT = 14,929
8am CT = 15,686
757 in the last 9 hours = 84/hr.
1314 needed to Zeb in the next 15 hours..... 87.6/hr
Anyone else find it extremely weird that we've been pretty much running at ~85 per hour for the last 21 hours which is almost exactly the pace we need to unlock Zeb by 11pm ET tonight?
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Agreed Jeff....but if it gets us to the Zeb unlock, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
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Can you wait until like 9:15? Go on without me if not.
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Agreed Jeff....but if it gets us to the Zeb unlock, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
Ditto. It could just be weird coincidence from adding in some of the overseas/Australia/NZ orders. But like you said, as long as Zeb unlocks I don't really care how we get there.
Can you wait until like 9:15? Go on without me if not.
Sure, I'll wait... (https://jedidefender.com/jsmentek/lol.gif)
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Hahah. My wife texted me from the other side of the house asking if I wanted a breakfast burrito and when I went to see where her reply was, I couldn’t find my text. This is what I get for grabbing the phone after being awake for five minutes. ;D
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Hahah. My wife texted me from the other side of the house asking if I wanted a breakfast burrito and when I went to see where her reply was, I couldn’t find my text. This is what I get for grabbing the phone after being awake for five minutes. ;D
You're supposed to check your phone while you poop like an American! :D
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Lol…
Meanwhile, Ghost is up 131 in the hour and ten minutes I’ve been awake. That’s good movement.
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9:30 am EST - 15,736
10:30 am EDT - 15, 851
Definitely over the 87 per hour average needed.
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Yeah this is like 120 an hour. If it holds it hits around 7:00 tonight.
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We have about 13 hour left and the count is 15,918. So 1,082 to go for Zeb.
Looking at past Haslabs:
- Khetanna did 2500+ in the last 24hrs.
- Sentinel did 5000+ in the last 24hrs.
- Razor Crest did 8000+ in the last 24hrs.
- Galactus did 8000+ in the last 24hrs.
- Skystriker did 8000+ in the last 24hrs.
- HISS did 6000+ in the last 24hrs.
- Dragonfly did 5000+ in the last 24hrs.
We night actually get to 20,000 by the end of the campaign. The rate is going to increase as we get closer to the deadline.
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15,984! Things are moving in the right direction to hit 17K
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16,065 backers with 12 hours remaining. Average about 78 per hour.
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Now at 16,135. The pace might be picking up. That's +70 in less than 30 minutes.
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There's no doubt Zeb will make it. Hasbro just likes playing with everyone's minds.
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There's no doubt Zeb will make it. Hasbro just likes playing with everyone's minds.
I just received an e-mail from Hasbro Pulse advertising the Haslab and it was all about not leaving a crew member behind! :D
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Yeah that 86 per hour is down to 56 per hour. It's happening.
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If it gets to 20000 they should throw in Sabine and Chopper, or a cool flight stand.
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20,000 would take nearly 350 an hour going forward.
Not terribly likely.
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10 hours to go and only 495 to unlock Zeb. 8)
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308 now. We flyin’.
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It’s averaging 4-5 per minute, I would think this means they are processing international orders from third parties. Can’t imagine there would otherwise be this many late comers.
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It does feel like a lot of procrastinators for sure.
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16,828... glad it's gonna hit 17k early so I don't have to watch this thing all night long :P
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16,828... glad it's gonna hit 17k early so I don't have to watch this thing all night long :P
I'm hoping for an early night too!
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We'll be at 17k by 3:00 central at this rate.
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It does feel like a lot of procrastinators for sure.
Or a bunch of FOMO from people who have already bought. I've seen soooo many posts of people saying they are buying extras just to make the final tier which makes me wonder if Hasbro is playing some games to get more $$.
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70 shy of Zeb and 8 and a half hours to go.
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HasLab The Ghost Update
16,960 Backers, 500 Minutes left!
The Ghost - backed!
Tier 1 Ezra - unlocked!
Tier 2 Kanan - unlocked!
Tier 3 Zeb - 40 to go!
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/haslab/products/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-the-ghost
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17k! Zeb unlocked with 496 minutes to spare!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5XeREfXwAAtF9Y.jpg)
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Nice. Now we wait to see what the final count is!
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Damn that jumped a lot in the last 20 minutes.
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It wouldn't be a surprise if we see an even bigger increase as we get closer to the deadline. I remember the final hour of the Rancor and I believe it would've been backed if it had another hour or so...they were only 500 away.
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Where we sit right now... top 5 HasLabs by gross sales (not including tax and shipping):
Galactus- $12,324,091.89
Razor Crest- $9,838,568.89
The Ghost- $8,707,325.85
H.I.S.S. - $8,031,332.28
Sentinel- $7,655,331.27
Hooray to all of us hard working fans for helping put another nearly $9mil in sales into Hasbro's pocket! I wonder what their profit/margin on that is? 50%?
The Ghost has to hit 19,678 to generate more money in sales than Razor Crest. That might actually be doable at the current pace...
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Well, that escalated quickly!
Happy to see them hit all the tiers, as this also guarantees us Sabine and Chopper on mural cards at some point as per the recent Q&A. :)
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Damn, 19K pretty soon.
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About 4 hours and 14 minutes left at the time I made this post… Currently at 18,827 backers or 235.34% funded with all unlocks met. Glad to see the Ghost finally appeared, saw a little action, and wasn’t destroyed in the latest Ashoka episode as I’m sure that helped drive some last minute backers 8)
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**** it, I ordered a second one.
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THAT'S THE SPIRIT!
It only needs about 180 170 156 per hour to actually hit 20,000. I didn't think that was doable even a few hours ago.
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With two and a half hours left we're at 19,758 backers. 20,000 is well within reach!
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Fine. I did three.
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57 to 20k. Insane.
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Just under two hours left and we're over 20,000.
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Wow, lots to spare even with the inevitable handful who back out. I was skeptical. I'm glad i was wrong.
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I cannot believe this made it to 20k. Crazy. That's like 7k in the last two days (way more than 86/hr (https://jedidefender.com/jsmentek/lol.gif)).
I wonder how much of it is people opting to back a second one now that they know we're definitely getting a complete Rebels Mural cardback set?
ps.
Going to be fun for the wallets when this $500 charge hits overnight, then next week or two we start getting the $230 charges [$460 for dummies like me who bought 2] for the Throne Room (9/15) and then another two weeks its $80 for the Court Denizens 4-pack (9/29)... that's over $1k at least for me this month (no one tell my wife :-\).
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21,481 is the current "final" total... that number may move a little with last minute sales or CredCard declines, but still over 21k? Amazing.
Just got the AmEx text notification of a "large purchase" so goodbye $535 and the year long wait for delivery begins!
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Already got my payment confirmation email! That was fast!
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Final total is 21,526. My credit card was charged 20 minutes after it closed. I thought they waited a few days before charging cards. They did that with the Razor Crest.
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I wound up ordering a second Ghost about 2 hours before the deadline. And I noticed the charges, too. Hasbro did not waste any time with that!
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Final total is 21,526.
They must still be processing overseas/Australia/NZ orders because now it's up to 21,768.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5a_Io0WYAAFCfb.jpg)
HasLab gross sales, based on current "final" total for 21,768 for The Ghost:
Galactus - $12,324,091.89
The Ghost - $10,883,782.32
Razor Crest - $9,838,568.89
H.I.S.S. - $8,031,332.28
Sentinel- $7,655,331.27
Barge + Razor Crest + The Ghost = $25.1 million in gross sales. $25.1 million in TVC HasLabs. I hope you are paying attention to that, Hasbro.
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I'm glad it funded quickly, and then eventually went way over the top.
I totally agree that Hasbro needs to take note of the overwhelming success of TVC HasLab offerings. I'm sure if they came out with a TVC offering that didn't offer good value it would struggle to fund, but if they've got good execution this should be an every two years slam dunk success.
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So....Ghost explodes in next week's episode? :D
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So....Ghost explodes in next week's episode? :D
Only if they intend to digitally paint it out of episode IX!
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The Razor Crest was also in Episode IX.
Besides...since it looks like Ahsoka is in the World Between Worlds, all the crackpots are back on YouTube with the "tHe SeQuEl TrIlOgY iS bEiNg ReT-cOnNeD" bull**** again.
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There's a Razor Crest in TFA, also. But it's really, really red. I think that's where the design originated.
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Obviously, LFL/Disney can ret-con whatever they want whenever they want, but The Ghost was name-checked in the TROS novelization (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/3/17/21183664/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-novel). So that ship in TROS was definitely supposed to be The Ghost.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1r86JDWcAExWOu.jpg)
But again, since that's a book and not a movie/show, totally possible for them to blow up The Ghost in Ahsoka and then just ret-con that ship in TROS to being just another VCX-100 light freighter.
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And The Razor Crest was Din's version of an ST-70 class assault ship, so whatever they had in Episodes 7-9 could just be other versions of the ST-70.
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This is why I love you guys so much. I make a joke and we completely over-analyze it! ;D
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This is why I love you guys so much. I make a joke and we completely over-analyze it! ;D
LOL, we're good like that!
(https://i.redd.it/8dm0yy3u1i541.jpg)
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This is why I love you guys so much. I make a joke and we completely over-analyze it! ;D
LOL, we're good like that!
Which part of the movie is this? I'm assuming at the end where everybody sows up to party?
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I'm kind of regretting bothering with a second one... does anyone know if it's true that you can cancel an order and get refunded on a Haslab project you already paid for up front?
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I'm kind of regretting bothering with a second one... does anyone know if it's true that you can cancel an order and get refunded on a Haslab project you already paid for up front?
Per Haslab’s policies you can cancel up to 30 days after the completion of the Haslab funding period…
Cancelling Your Order
If you need to cancel your order, you must do so within 30 days of the completion of the applicable Project Backing Period by contacting our Customer Service Center at CustomerService@HasbroPulse.com.
Full details at https://hasbropulse.com/pages/shipping-return-policy (https://hasbropulse.com/pages/shipping-return-policy)
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Thanks Jason. I probably should have dug through the website before asking here. :)
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Thanks Jason. I probably should have dug through the website before asking here. :)
No worries Rob. I have been hearing the same rumors and there are some folks pushing it as a response to the lackluster TVC offerings from Pulse Con. So my curiosity was piqued.