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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Clone Wars '08-'13 => Topic started by: Brian on February 13, 2012, 08:54 PM
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I was just reading through one of the reports at JTA, and it sounds like the overall feeling from Hasbro is that the Clone Wars line will continue to see about 20 figures a year through the duration of the 3D releases. They mentioned it being considered more of a "sub line" now, and they would be very careful about what characters were included. They did admit to a dip in the ratings of the show (although I think I've enjoyed this season much more than last year). I'd be curious if the show would even be on the air (new episodes at least) for another 6 years, that's a long time for a cartoon these days. I think usually once they hit the 52 number, they often wrap things up (or change the name), although there are exceptions. Anyways, sounds like CW will be run very similar to the way things are this year - barring a disaster with the 3D releases I guess.
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I was just reading through one of the reports at JTA, and it sounds like the overall feeling from Hasbro is that the Clone Wars line will continue to see about 20 figures a year through the duration of the 3D releases. They mentioned it being considered more of a "sub line" now, and they would be very careful about what characters were included. They did admit to a dip in the ratings of the show (although I think I've enjoyed this season much more than last year). I'd be curious if the show would even be on the air (new episodes at least) for another 6 years, that's a long time for a cartoon these days. I think usually once they hit the 52 number, they often wrap things up (or change the name), although there are exceptions. Anyways, sounds like CW will be run very similar to the way things are this year - barring a disaster with the 3D releases I guess.
I read this as well, but it doesn't quite ring true somehow. If the ratings start to go back up this season and next, does that mean they will re-evaluate things and start making more TCW toys? No, they're going to continue to focus on the movies no matter what. So throwing that line out about the ratings is pretty weak sauce if you ask me.
Also, you can't blame the show, or the movies, for how badly the line is being managed right now. It's not the show's fault you couldn't get that Mando Transport to retail, even with SIX PLUS MONTHS of lead time. Or the fact that you continually under-produced toys for this line and made poor character choices and case assortments.
I'm fine with it being a sub-line, but at least run it with some integrity. I'm fine with them making smarter choices on some of their selections, but that does not mean only give us clones and Obi/Ani retreads. I mean, you've already spent the tooling dollars on Season 3 Ahsoka, but in Wave 1 we get more pegwarming Snow Koons? Who authorized that?!?! And don't even get me started on how they are rolling the clock back on articulation..oy vey!
Less is fine. Worse is not. If you're going to commit to the line for at least the duration of the show, please do it right.
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I read the JTA report too, and I can totally see why Hasbro would put TCW aside. But for 6 whole years?! That's just way too much. Especially with the show headed into a more action/intense/dramatic/evolved direction. I say just put Movie Heroes at 3-4 new figures per wave and go all-out on TCW again.
I heard something around the lines of that Hasbro would have to "put away" TVC for awhile. It sounds like it's temporary, which I'm glad about, but this line is so awesome, why would they even do that? JTA reported something like that BAD would return, but I really don't want Hasbro ditching TVC for a few years in favor of BAD.
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I loves me some Clone Wars, seen every episode, own all the DVDs, Blu-Ray, etc., but do any of us honestly expect the show and the line is going to continue over the next six years? I understand the movie strategy, however, Hasbro has multimedia most of the year with Clone Wars as opposed to a February film release. I do not understand the thinking. I guess will have to see what 3D pulls in. Remember, George said a movie each year "if they do well."
I guess with the MTT slated for the fall, which probably means late July/early August, Hasbro's hedging its bets on a 3D home release, although the market is still developing. I guess the strategy is going to be to push stuff twice a year at roughly six-month intervals.
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I loves me some Clone Wars, seen every episode, own all the DVDs, Blu-Ray, etc., but do any of us honestly expect the show and the line is going to continue over the next six years?
The show was originally slated to run for 5 seasons, so based on the original plan next season would be the last, but there are reports out there that they have already started writing for Season Six, so who knows?
I agree another 5 years for the show is probably overly optimistic, but I can see it going another 2 seasons easily, and that will make 100 episodes, which is the magic number for *ding ding ding* syndication. ;D
So the toy line could potentially run another 2-3 years just off the repeats and maybe the odd TV movie here and there.
There are a lot more toys I think they need to make before they kill this thing, so I'm in as long as they stick with the animated style, which it sounds like they will, thankfully.
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The show was originally slated to run for 5 seasons, so based on the original plan next season would be the last, but there are reports out there that they have already started writing for Season Six, so who knows?
I agree another 5 years for the show is probably overly optimistic, but I can see it going another 2 seasons easily, and that will make 100 episodes, which is the magic number for *ding ding ding* syndication. ;D
Back when the show was first being developed, there were reports floating around that Lucas said, regardless of ratings, the show would have at least 100 episodes. You said it would take another 2 seasons before they reached 100 episodes, so I can honestly see that happening.
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syndication seems like a bit of a stretch for a series with falling ratings though.
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You said it would take another 2 seasons before they reached 100 episodes, so I can honestly see that happening.
With 22 episodes in each season, it won't take 2 more seasons - just one should do it. We are sitting at 84 episodes right now, with 4 left to go in Season 4. We should hit the magic #100 with Epsiode 12 of Season 5.
That's why, like McMetal said, the show was originally slated for 5 seasons - that is how many it would take to get to 100 episodes and potential sydication, which was poppa George's original plan/dream for the show.
syndication seems like a bit of a stretch for a series with falling ratings though.
If some channel out there is willing to run "Laverne and Shirley" on a Sunday afternoon or "Saved by the Bell" on a random mid-day morning, there is definitely a place for Clone Wars re-runs someplace - Cartoon Network, Boomerang, Hasbro's Hub, where ever.
Falling rating or not, I have to imagine that a old episode of Clone Wars would do just as well as an old episode of The Wonder Years or whatever else Hasbro has on the Hub. ;)
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Listen, George Lucas doesn't need somebody to pick up his show. He had to foot the entire bill on "Red Tails" right down to the prints. He will do as much Clone Wars as it takes to tell the story, which I suspect is 2-3 more seasons. On the 100-episode mark, I'm fairly certain it's no longer the magic number for syndication. If they want to run it elsewhere, they'll run it elsewhere.
I just think Hasbro's strategy on Clone Wars figures is incredibly flawed.
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Falling rating or not, I have to imagine that a old episode of Clone Wars would do just as well as an old episode of The Wonder Years or whatever else Hasbro has on the Hub. ;)
First of all, the Wonder Years was a great show :P. Anyways, I think Jeff is right, I don't see any way the show doesn't make it to syndication - somewhere. Also, despite reports of falling ratings, I don't know if it has gotten to the point so bad that they're thinking of shelving it. It does seem like it gets way less attention on the network as it used to though, with reruns in the earlier mornings on the weekends and not much else. I've always been surprised that they don't run it on weekday afternoons or something, as part of an action block with one of their other shows (Ben 10 or whatever), but maybe it has to hit the 100 mark before that happens too. I have to think that it will at least get five seasons, and possibly a couple more. This might be a special situation, but usually cartoons don't get much more than the "magic number", unless they change name slightly (like the original JL cartoon to JL Unlimited, or Batman: TAS to The New Adventures of Batman....).
But, back to the original toy line, I would guess it would get at least some attention as long as new episodes are airing. It seems like Hasbro could keep it going a lot longer even with syndication, but the interest does seem to be waning. It is already down to about 20 figures a year (and it sounds like it will be that way throughout the 3D releases), and we know that probably only half of those would be "new" if they follow the current strategy. Unless they gradually make the switch over to making them all "realistic", I could see the toy line ending in a couple more years (or likely as soon as new episodes are done). They don't seem real dedicated to it at this point anyways, and I don't see the CW series lasting another six years until the movie series is. As much as I enjoy the show, I don't think it should necessarily hang on that long either.
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The show's practically a commercial though, nothing more. I question whether anyone would want it if it (and Star Wars in general) decline in popularity is what I'm saying.
I guess I just don't equate people's nostalgia for old TV shows with a cartoon about Star Wars. I'm not saying someone wouldn't I guess, I'm just saying I don't think anyone's gonna care if Star Wars itself is declining a bit. The Hub maybe, but I don't think The Hub's shelling out big for what it airs, and Lucas isn't known for letting his precious be used without him getting hefty cuts.
And the way they're setting things up in the series I really question if it'll be here much longer. I agree, they really are setting up the ROTS lead-in... a lot. I just hope they don't completely dump on Tartakovsky's version in the process, but I'm sure they will ultimately.
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And the way they're setting things up in the series I really question if it'll be here much longer. I agree, they really are setting up the ROTS lead-in... a lot. I just hope they don't completely dump on Tartakovsky's version in the process, but I'm sure they will ultimately.
The old cartoon was a hit: none of that political trash; each episode was 5-12 minutes of pure, sweet action that hooked the viewer. This new series is totally wrecking EVERYTHING. At this point I've just come to pick and choose what I think is canon and what isn't.
As crappy as this show can be, it has created hundreds of awesome Hasbro figures. Hasbro was just beginning to get collectors warmed up to the TCW line. I don't think we'll ever really see it revive. The line's being put on the backburner for the next 6 years, and I certainly don't think the show will last that long. What happens after the show ends is up in the air, but, like we've seen with the films, Hasbro can potentially find stuff to make even once the show has had its run.
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I know that last season the show took a hit in the ratings, probably due to the unevenness of the show, but its ratings have made a decent comeback. Almost 2 million viewers for a Friday night show doesn't seem that bad by cable standards, but I am sure the show costs a lot more than an episode of Storage Wars. I have really come to love this line and I am quite disappointed in the way Hasbro just bailed on it this year. They have done some amazing things in the show and I would love to see figures made of many of the characters they have introduced us to.
I can live with a smaller line, and lord knows my wallet can. But it should be a great line then, and this year is not that. It is disappointing to read that they will not re-release some of the harder to find characters. It would be nice if Hasbro would just open up about what is going on with everything, from the management of the brand to the distribution issues.
The show is not going to make it through the 3D re-releases, and I am wondering what the benchmark is for considering that experiment a success. My guess is that they run 6 or 7 seasons and call it quits at that point. I appreciate what Filoni has done and how he has brought a fans perspective to the series. I can only hope we get some really good CW figures between now and then.
The Vintage Collection is worth the scale back for 2012, but if they keep dragging out ten year molds to clog the pegs in the Movie Heroes line, then I hope they revisit their decisions about the CW.
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IIRC, wasn't it planned for 100 episodes, ratings or not?
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Pretty much. Lucas actually most or all of Season 1 done before ever getting a network committment, so ratings (like studio backing) is largely irrelevant to him. The ratings are actually fairly decent. The show has to be considered an unqualified success, regardless of it ends next year or years from now. The Hasbro line has to be seen the same way, even if it's in decline. It's been an amazing line that still has major gaps to fill. Kind of reminds of me the vintage line (the real vintage line). Even if CW ends tomorrow, there is no expiration date on getting figures from it. We have 30 years of plastic to prove that.
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I think they should combine TCW line into the main line. with just getting 20 CW figures a year now, to save cost on the package just put them on one card
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Going forward produce them all in realistic style and the problem is solved. Guys like me watch the show, like the new characters but hate the cartoon look in the figures. I would have bought every figure had they been realistic from the start, i picked up only a handful and they were the ones that looked realistic enough. I like where they are going with the first three characters shown at TF and I hope they make more. Cad and Savage next please!
I can see two more seasons max with this show. The shows story is nearing the events ROTS already there is no way they can drag it out for that much longer unless it becomes CloneWars: The Adventures of Ki-Adi Mundi and Mundi Squad.
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I think they should combine TCW line into the main line. with just getting 20 CW figures a year now, to save cost on the package just put them on one card
I think we're starting to see that already. Witness the realistic versions of Anakin, Ahsoka and Obi-Wan from Clone Wars in the TVC line. Hasbro seems to be deliberately testing these characters out in a realistic form to see if they'll sell better this way. I got a sense that this might be a trend when I saw that new Anakin Skywalker at NY Comic Con.
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I have to say, I'd hate seeing animated figures snuck into the main line... I have not bought into the animated stuff save for the droids and a few aliens because thye tend to blend in a little better, especially with a paintjob or whatnot.
But if animated figures were in cases of realistic, it'd be a real drawback IMO on buying cases of figures since there'd be new ones in there I very much did not want to buy, at all.
I really felt the news that they'd be testing realistic sculpts of the animated characters was an effort for them to keep CW alive when the inevitable end of the series came about... It seemed kind of natural really, since they wanted the figures on the shelves to match the material they came from closely to avoid confusion... with the series possibly ending at 100 episodes, it makes some ssense for them to move away from that concept then some, and things to become more of a cohesive look. And I for one am geeked to get realistic versions too! Some of my favorite figures at NYTF I felt.
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I prefer the animated look actually - a 180 from where I started with CW, but it won me over - but the realistic line is probably the only way we will ever get Satine, 99, or any of the minor figures collectors are looking for.
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Yes, many fans of this line feel strongly that animated characters should be sculpted in an animated style to better reflect their actual appearance on the show.
I understand this may not appeal to all collectors but I don't see why it has to be an all or nothing proposition. They're putting some characters out in realistic form which should make some collectors happy. I think that step should appease some collectors who have yet to warm up to the animated line for whatever reason, but that's not any justification for just killing the animated line outright.
Until somebody proves me wrong with hard data, I maintain that for every collector who wants these animated figures in a realistic style, there is an equal and opposite collector who currently buys the animated style and would NOT be interested in buying these figures in a realistic style.
Just keep up both lines and everyone is happy. :)
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The problem is that collectors in Clone Wars in general are the slim pickin's and it's kids who either support it or don't. Right now Hasbro's direction with the line, for kids and collectors alike, is the realistic line since it's tantamount to a "movie year", more or less. And will be for 6 years.
Clone Wars has always been separated a bit, and IMO that hurt it being more absorbed and accepted by collectors as a whole. LFL didn't care and wanted sculpts that reflected the media (despite Hasbro even pushing realistic or quasi-realistic figures) in an effort to blend them. I think deep down, Hasbro knew keeping one animated would ultimately mean it would disconnect with collectors as a new and wholely separate toy line. I know that's how I view it. I didn't buy CW because I don't look at them as part of the same line of figures ultimately, and with price hikes at the time the last thing I wanted was yet another line of action figures to collect.
Flash forward to now and I'm still open to realistic... No hard data to prove I'm in the majority other than the realistic line's been around for this many years, and has had huge collector support really. That says something though, that collectors will probably buy realistic CW figures who otherwise were passing because they considered it wholely separate. I was anything but alone in that feeling at the time.
I think they could've paid a little more attention to CW in 2012 than they did for sure, and been more even about things. But ultimately I think this was an inevitable direction they were going to go since the toon's ratings are slipping (meaning the main audience they cater to with their half hour commercials is slipping with it), and the unavoidable end of the series is in sight, at least to some degree. I personally think syndication, even if it happens, isn't likely to drive toy sales at all. I think Hasbro really is just preparing for the reality of no Clone Wars toon... However, if a new toon were to emerge? I think anything is possible then, including a return to the old toon even with some characters here and there from CW mixed into the line.
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Flash forward to now and I'm still open to realistic... No hard data to prove I'm in the majority other than the realistic line's been around for this many years, and has had huge collector support really. That says something though, that collectors will probably buy realistic CW figures who otherwise were passing because they considered it wholely separate. I was anything but alone in that feeling at the time.
Count me as being in this camp. I would have bought the entire line had they been realistic. Cad Bane with the Robot, Embo, Armored Savage, Cassius and x2 IG Droids are all I own in my massive collection because they pass for realistic enough. There were so many great characters I would love to have liked to own like Hondo but because they were cartoonish I passed.
That said, I am a bit perplexed that Armored Savage, Season 2 Ashoka are not in the current mixes. CW has seen some rare figures like Sidious, Even Piell and even Sae See Tiin see such limited release. Maybe just maybe if Hasbro stopped shipping the very 1st crappy Cad Bane and included more in demand figures sales would look a little better. Not saying it would cure the lines current problems but it could not hurt. The CW line lasted longer than I thought it was going to so I have to tip my hat to that.
Being with the SW line since the 95 rebirth I can say for certain, like death and taxes, the line always comes back to core mainline figures...that look realistic. Chubby, large, micro, stylized whatever it is one line that never dies is core 3 3/4inch movie style. Not saying it will never die but too many of us invested so heavy into it for so long that SW figures that are 1/18th scale should never deviate from realistic.
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I think the future of this line rests in Hasbro's design team. If they decide to release new versions of core figures with a smattering of secondary figures I think the line can continue. If the line was so dead, why have I never seen an armored Savage in the wild? The line is being prodded toward a main line infusion, which I will accept...I guess. But there are a lot of young collectors that came in with the cartoon that may not jump on outside the series because of cost. As a parent I can barely afford the CW figs, there is no way I could handle all of Vintage. At least in my area the CW stuff seems to move well, it is not as hard to find as vintage, but nothing that could not be helped by better case selection. I love collecting these with my son, and when the line is discontinued it will be a sad day. Until then, I am ready for the next wave to appear.
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So...according to some questions asked at Toy Fair, no single carded scuba clone planned. Or maybe that particular deco isn't planned. Maybe'll they'll release the scuba leader at a muuuuch later date. Either way, those planning a CW Scuba Trooper army are in for a headache.
Armored Oppress will return (at a date past the point when most people will care).
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It does dot surprise me that the scuba clone is not getting a card. This is the same model they used with the snow gear clones. I wish Rex was in the deluxe and the trooper was carded then, but I spent much more to complete the scene so I guess in the end they knew what they were doing.
That being said, I still plan on buying at least two of the subs with clones when they arrive...if I can find them.
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How do you get that these two are the same model?
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090808174520/starwars/images/thumb/b/b4/Cold_Snap_clone.png/200px-Cold_Snap_clone.png)
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110925145605/starwars/images/thumb/7/7c/Clone_scuba_trooper.jpg/830px-Clone_scuba_trooper.jpg)
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Same "business model" I would have used sculpt if that is what I meant. I did not know we were being so formal.
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Scuba Clone is about the only thing I can think of at this moment that is from CW that I plan to buy. I'm largely only going to nab it for the sub, so I may have a Scuba Clone by himself available at some point. I'll likely hang onto one to customize to a realistic Late War Scuba Clone if I can sorta combine it with the Tartakovsky Scuba Clone (which is a great figure in and of itself if anyone doesn't have that).
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Jesse let me know if you want to get rid of a single CW scuba clone. I would gladly take one off your hands.
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I haven't seen anything clear out of comic con. Didn't seem like they showed any new clone wars figures (other than realistic styling). Anybody there and hear anything about the future of this line?
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I haven't seen anything clear out of comic con. Didn't seem like they showed any new clone wars figures (other than realistic styling). Anybody there and hear anything about the future of this line?
pretty sure they said wait til CVI on this line and Movie Heroes
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The only "new" stuff I've heard of anywhere regarding this line has been from GH, per their post-Hasbro panel summary:
CLONE WARS
Commander Fox will be the last Clone Wars figure for 2012. Hasbro does plan on continuing to strongly support the series and releasing 20+ figures in 2013.
There is no arachnid Darth Maul planned for release at the present time due to the size of the figure, but General Pong Krell is very much in their radar. Another Maul is slated for release outside the Target battle pack version. We think Spidey Maul is a perfect piece for an exclusive
I'm just so confused with this line... only 20+ figures for 2013, again? I thought Pong Krell had already been made, as indicated per rumors last year... and another Maul? I'm just so lost I don't even know...
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I just wanted to post something in here, because it is so depressing not hearing about anyone finding new stuff.
I wonder if the 19 or so figures for next year will be from previous seasons, or will they be of characters exclusive to season 5. It seems like the rug was pulled out from under the design team after they worked on what they saw from the first arc of season 4. There are way more than 19 characters from season 4 alone that need to be made.
Hopefully celebration will help out with some more info.
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Yeah, it is really depressing...this forum has become a ghost town lately.
I am really, really trying hard to find the newest waves, but I am not having any of the luck others seem to be having, at least according to some other sites.
At this point the frustration has begun to congeal into bitterness, so I am making an effort not to vent until I have something positive to share in here.
I hope that will be soon. :-[
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Sounds like Kohls is also getting in the Wolffe wave...I found mine at Target. No sign of the new Fox yet
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Yeah, I didn't want to jinx myself by starting up talk about the Kohl's thing, but that is really irritating to me. I've been stalking both of the local stores every day since JTA put that report up on Saturday and they haven't gotten jack here yet. But apparently they are plentiful and easy to obtain for others who live elsewhere. ::)
My stores have an Embo, Flamethrower Clone and a Kit Fisto. All fine figures, but those have been out for a year now.
Just once, I want to read about somebody finding something in a store, and then go there myself and find the same thing. I'm insane, I know.
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I checked my local Kohl's tonight. BUST. The CW situation is pretty sad. Mostly because what was my favorite part of the hobby recently has become the part I care about least - don't even look at the pegs any more.
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I've hit up three Kohls regularly since the JTA report and nothing. Not even a hit of having anything new come in. One of them has a single Clone Wars figure and a single Movie Heroes figure - and that's it.
Kohls has always been a weird place for finding toys, there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason as to when and why they get stuff in and never seem to have "a lot" of anything in.
I think these last few waves of Clone Wars figures will be plentiful at TJ Maxx and Tuesday Morning in 2013.
There is a big part of me that's hoping that they will be announcing the death of this sub-line at C6.
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There is a big part of me that's hoping that they will be announcing the death of this sub-line at C6.
Pete, I know it's sucked collecting this line this year, but don't give up on the whole thing yet! It's still possible Hasbro could pull their heards out of their collective posterior and turn this thing around. We know they're capable of making great animated figures, we just have to hope they see the error of their ways in regard to articulation, figure choice, case assortment, and overall # of items released. (Not much, right?)
I'm admittedly biased, I don't want this thing to end yet, and the realistic style CW figures suck out loud IMHO, so I've got to cling to hope that things will improve.
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It's not that I've given up, it's just that it's so depressing when both you (as the collector) and Hasbro (as the manufacturer) seem to be treating the Clone Wars line like an after-thought.
I picked up the MTT last night and I was thinking to myself "ok, I'm all caught up". And as far as Movie Heroes & Vintage goes, I am. I have the Class II Wave 2 vehicles, I've found MH Wave 3, I'm done with the Lost Line wave, etc...
Then I had to kick myself and remember "oh yeah, I still need figures from the Scuba Ahsoka wave and three of the new Commander Fox figure, plus at least two of the Dropship Class I vehicles"
So that's what it has come to - I have to remind myself that I need items from the line. Not a good sign...
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Dropship...keep forgetting they made it.
I watched some stop motion video on youtube some kid made recently, there was the dropship! I've never seen one, how'd this kid get it?
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I watched some stop motion video on youtube some kid made recently, there was the dropship! I've never seen one, how'd this kid get it?
His dad does not mind dropping 50 plus dollars for one on Amazon or EBay. Someday you will find one at Marshalls for nine bucks, whenever they find the thousands of them that must be lost in an Indiana Jones-esque Walmart warehouse. You will know it is time to start looking when the news headline is about the return of the Arc of the Covenant.
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Maybe, to all that.
Funny thing, the kid had cardboard vehicles he made, too.
Also those early Clone Wars clones (1st head sculpt) with green stripes that IIRC, were only found on eBay. Star Wars Clone Wars Grey Clone Trooper Green (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5X-Pcs-Star-Wars-Clone-Wars-Grey-Clone-Trooper-Green-3-75-Loose-Figure-/160865635887?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item257456ce2f)
Could be overseas...he sure sounded American.
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Also those early Clone Wars clones (1st head sculpt) with green stripes that IIRC, were only found on eBay. Star Wars Clone Wars Grey Clone Trooper Green (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5X-Pcs-Star-Wars-Clone-Wars-Grey-Clone-Trooper-Green-3-75-Loose-Figure-/160865635887?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item257456ce2f)
Hold on, what's all this then? I don't recognize those figures from any multipack or single carded release. What's the deal? I can't believe I haven't heard about this before...any details you can pass along would be much appreciated.
The Dropship had a very limited retail appearance at a few places earlier this year, but more as a fluke, that wave has yet to really start shipping other than to online stores. I am hoping we see a few more of these as they year goes on too, or at least that Hasbro will actually put this thing up on their website for sale.
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The only thing I know is that they've been available from that same seller for well over a year now. There's red striped ones, too. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5X-Pcs-Star-Wars-Clone-Wars-Grey-Clone-Trooper-Red-3-75-Loose-Figure-/150879057741?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item232117b74d) Did those see retail release? I remember hearing talk of bootleg troopers (as opposed to factory extras or whatever), but the seller's other stuff looks like actual production items.
I've never bought anything from that seller.
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Dropship...keep forgetting they made it.
I watched some stop motion video on youtube some kid made recently, there was the dropship! I've never seen one, how'd this kid get it?
Can you post a link to that video? I am trying to research these "mystery clones" and it's proving to be quite the rabbithole...any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Clones in this one
http://youtu.be/toxUqw1F5pc (http://youtu.be/toxUqw1F5pc)
Dropship in this one
http://youtu.be/wtLDtODW-bM (http://youtu.be/wtLDtODW-bM)
Looking at his profile, he's in Australia...maybe that explains the dropship.
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Reading through Hasbro's answers in JTA's Q and A, it really sounds like "this ain't for you guys" with the Clone Wars line anymore. They mention that it is for kids, will focus on main characters, articulation frightens and confuses young children, and that collectors should look at the realistic versions being added to the Vintage/Legacy/etc. lines. I really get the vibe that they are basically just waiting for the show to end so they can axe the line for good. I really like the realistic versions being started now, so I'm all for that, but I wish we could see some of those other characters hit the animated side before things are all done (Dengar, new Boba, Krell, etc.)
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Will a standard (non-red-painted) Scuba Trooper be released individually like with the Aqua Droid?
No.
Are we ever going to get Fives (or Echo) in his ARC trooper armor?
It's unlikely.
It's over, if obvious clone repaints, even ones of recurring characters, are out of the question. Could've been stuck in a battle pack at any time...I'd think.
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I posted the following in another thread but it goes here too...
I can appreciate collectors hanging in even with 5POA figures... I just hope prices reflect the drop in quality for the sake of those collecting it. $10 would sting for a statue. At least there's hope that it's not being canned, for the animated fans.
I honestly figured it was on its way out... I do think they're trying to wean collectors off animated though, and into realistic only, and using the animated line as something of a sales booster for the stuff the majority of the adult share wants to buy... Which is good for the majority, but sucks for the adults into animated stuff.
And kids don't care I guess... I disagree, I think it's a little bit of ignoring your own history as an organization, but I also think it's probably true for younger kids... I think anything 5/6 and up though, and I'm sort of in disagreement on articulation being "frustrating". I just figure it's easier than saying it's cheaper.
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With those rumblings from Hasbro out of C6, it sounds like the CW series may not even make it all the way through this upcoming season, which would mean the nearing of the end of this line. While I'm sure there's plenty of CW and animated figure fans that will be bummed to have that happen, personally, I'm excited at the prospect of one less sub-line of figures to chase down - especially when we've been told their quality will be diminishing, and on top of the obvious fact that they can't even currently be found at retail. One less headache for me, and hopefully the eventual demise of this line will help Hasbro to re-focus their efforts on the regular movie line(s), as it's obvious they've been spreading their resources and planning a little too thin of late.
Granted, I still wish they'd go back and wrap up the handful of remaining figures from the prior Gendy Tarkovsky (sp?) Clone Wars micro series. That one just seemed a lot more simple and fun to me. I already know the answer to that request though.
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I would like to know what you heard, because what I have read gives us roughly the same amount of figures as last year, 19. I am hoping after the "the 3D movies will sell billions of figures" bonehead idea is re-worked, it may green light more of the clone wars figures they had previously designed.
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After reading the Q&As from CVI, and listening to Curto's podcast with DePriest, I think I now see what Hasbro is planning for The Clone Wars line. In essence, they are producing for children (not news to us). But the reality of this is really setting in for me. Less articulation makes sturdier toys for little hands; and we are told that kids are really only interested in core characters. So, The Clone Wars line proper will be a kid's brand. As a collector, I'd be boneheaded to keep expecting to see collector-favorites from this line, despite how much I would love to see Krell and Di. Barring some kickass surprises, it's just not going to happen. I'm going to start looking to the realistic line if I want to see cool characters from this spectacular animated show.
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Official Hasbro Press Images Posted (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/Celebration_VI/Hasbro/Official_Press_Images)
Check 'em out.
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With those rumblings from Hasbro out of C6, it sounds like the CW series may not even make it all the way through this upcoming season, which would mean the nearing of the end of this line. While I'm sure there's plenty of CW and animated figure fans that will be bummed to have that happen, personally, I'm excited at the prospect of one less sub-line of figures to chase down - especially when we've been told their quality will be diminishing, and on top of the obvious fact that they can't even currently be found at retail. One less headache for me, and hopefully the eventual demise of this line will help Hasbro to re-focus their efforts on the regular movie line(s), as it's obvious they've been spreading their resources and planning a little too thin of late.
Granted, I still wish they'd go back and wrap up the handful of remaining figures from the prior Gendy Tarkovsky (sp?) Clone Wars micro series. That one just seemed a lot more simple and fun to me. I already know the answer to that request though.
So I am a bit of an optimist when it comes to the show. I have read lots of speculation about the death of the show, but I cannot find hard evidence to support those assertions. I listened to Filoni speak about the show 3 times and this is not a man who's job is finished. Season 5 is essentially done and I imagine they are well into mapping out Season 6. Some of the images they showed us were 18 months old. Filoni also mentioned a number of storylines that will develop in future years. Of course, CN could cancel it and CW could come to an end, but I do not want to be fatalistic about it. I think things are more positive than many believe.
Would be nice to have solid info though either way.
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I really get the vibe that they are basically just waiting for the show to end so they can axe the line for good.
It's funny, I also got that impression that they're essentially just waiting on relentlessly for the show to end. They've already made clear that the line will transition over to the realistic style. Honestly I love the realistic figures we're getting soon, and it'll bring something fresh to the table to keep the realistic line going on without getting stale in character choices. Think about, all the new characters from TCW that we can finally have now. I wouldn't be surprised if we even get a Duchess Satine waaaaay down the line.
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why is it that it seems to me that the single carded Maul looks way better than the BP Maul?
BP Maul
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb333/cooleddie74/BattlePackDarthMaul.jpg)
Single
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_VI/Hasbro/Official_Press_Images/CloneWars/Darth_Maul.jpg)
It just looks more realistic, especially in the face.
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It's funny, I also got that impression that they're essentially just waiting on relentlessly for the show to end. They've already made clear that the line will transition over to the realistic style. Honestly I love the realistic figures we're getting soon, and it'll bring something fresh to the table to keep the realistic line going on without getting stale in character choices. Think about, all the new characters from TCW that we can finally have now. I wouldn't be surprised if we even get a Duchess Satine waaaaay down the line.
The problem with that is, it won't look anything LIKE the actual character from the show. You can't render a 3D animated image into a realistic style without losing the unique qualities of that original image. And whoever sculpts heads for Hasbro really struggles with female likenesses IMO. So we'd end up with some cruddy looking thing that is like the BP Talzin figure, not really animated and not really realistic either, but a crude mash-up that ends up bearing little resemblance to the source material.
Well, that is just my opinion anyway. I know there is love out there for the realistic cartoon stuff but I can't help but regard them as atrocious.
I think it would be hilarious if the show somehow had a HUGE surge in popularity and ended up running several more seasons, and kids even started buying the figures again. Then they'd pretty much HAVE to commit more resources to it, begrudgingly or not.
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So I am a bit of an optimist when it comes to the show. I have read lots of speculation about the death of the show, but I cannot find hard evidence to support those assertions. I listened to Filoni speak about the show 3 times and this is not a man who's job is finished. Season 5 is essentially done and I imagine they are well into mapping out Season 6. Some of the images they showed us were 18 months old. Filoni also mentioned a number of storylines that will develop in future years. Of course, CN could cancel it and CW could come to an end, but I do not want to be fatalistic about it. I think things are more positive than many believe.
Would be nice to have solid info though either way.
I really don't think TCW is in any danger of going away at this point, because the people financing the show (George Lucas and Lucasfilm) have made it clear that shows are going to be produced regardless of ratings or outlet availability until they reach a point that, creatively-speaking, it is time for the show to end. Everyone involved with the show from a production end, from Dave Filoni to the writers to the cast to GL himself, still seem excited about the show, the stories, and the characters, so its not like a lack of enthusiasm on the part of the crew is an issue. Also, while 9:30 PM on Saturday nights might be the "death slot" for network television programs, 9:30 AM on a Saturday morning is (unless my childhood is to be disregarded) a pretty prime-time slot for kids' cartoon viewing, but I continue to watch the show online the following day due to Comcast being money-hungry monopolizing morons anyway, so time slots are irrelevant to my viewing habits anyway.
That said, I really don't know where all the doom-and-gloom in terms of ratings is coming from. From what I can tell, fan reaction to the last season was overwhelmingly positive, and IMO, the show just keeps getting better and better from a story perspective (not to mention the animation itself, which looks amazing these days). Even people who loathed the prequels (Simon Pegg, for example) seem to be really big fans of the show. I hear "declining ratings" mentioned by people but I have yet to see any actual evidence to support their claims that "OMG THE SHOW IS DEAD!"
As for figures, I think the main problem I have is that they did a separate animated line (which I have collected from day one) to begin with. While I do not have the negative view of the "realistic" versions that some do (I'm actually really excited to get some of the characters in realistic form; I'm hoping that Pre Viszla is on that short list), I am disappointed to see the animated line descend into seemingly 1990s Batman territory with endless versions of main characters, countless repaints, and a almost total lack of background characters and/or villains for said heroes to fight. It certainly looks like Hasbro is doing everything they can to make the line fail in one way or another so they can move on to something else.
All this being said, three concurrent action figure lines for Star Wars is, and has always been, way too much product and confusion. I've said it a million times, but stores see all three lines (even vintage) as one thing and as long as there is Star Wars on the pegs, either 20 Saga Legends/Movies Heroes Super Battle Droids, 20 Clone Wars Anakins and Obi-Wans, or 20 Vintage Qui-Gons, they're not going to get/order more.
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why is it that it seems to me that the single carded Maul looks way better than the BP Maul?
Cleaned up press image one vs. cleaned up press image two.
If you want Maul's Galactic Battle game card you ahve to buy the battle pack, since the game won't be around in 2013. A huge blow to everyone, no? ;)
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The only thing I know is that they've been available from that same seller for well over a year now. There's red striped ones, too. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5X-Pcs-Star-Wars-Clone-Wars-Grey-Clone-Trooper-Red-3-75-Loose-Figure-/150879057741?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item232117b74d) Did those see retail release? I remember hearing talk of bootleg troopers (as opposed to factory extras or whatever), but the seller's other stuff looks like actual production items.
I've never bought anything from that seller.
Hey, just wanted to thank you again for this information. I just bought my third set of these...first batch yellow striped, second batch red striped, and the latest batch green striped. They are definitely unique from any previous figures ever released in this line in any form. (Although the yellow guys are very close to the 212th clones they out out a few years back)
The main difference, which is apparent right away, is the base plastic is grey, not white. It's hard to tell the difference from the auction photos, but very noticeable in person. These must have been some kind of early production samples or test runs for paints apps or something to that effect I think.
Whatever they are, they are completely weird and cool, and make a fine addition to my collection. I'm definitely making a point to keep hunting for strange stuff like this from overseas. The seller sent them in a padded envelope all the way from China but they arrived safely so no complaints here.
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The grayish 212th clones were available as part Deluxe Jetpack set (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/html/TCW/deluxe/212jetpacktroopers.html). You can see the difference in plastic color here (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TCW/deluxe/212jetpacktroopers/lf28.html). Those ones on eBay are pretty weird though.
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Hey, just wanted to thank you again for this information.
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You are welcome! I just assumed they were old news in collecting circles.
The seller sent them in a padded envelope all the way from China but they arrived safely so no complaints here.
I've never had a problem with the stuff I've gotten from China being damaged. Sometimes the content are not right. I wound up getting a few GI JOE figures free once because they seller sent me the wrong ones and didn't have the others, offered a total refund. They seem to want to avoid negative feedback.
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You know, it just occurred to me, that Lego is supporting the Clone Wars, and has some more new sets this winter. If Lego's able to make money off the show, why can't Hasbro?
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You know, it just occurred to me, that Lego is supporting the Clone Wars, and has some more new sets this winter. If Lego's able to make money off the show, why can't Hasbro?
I think there's a key difference between the two licenses. Hasbro has spread things out so much across multiple lines that it seems to be dilluting interest. Especially when you see collectors saying "I'll collect the Vintage line and new figures from Movie Heroes, but no Clone Wars", or collectors who are doing OT only, etc.
The LEGO collection really hasn't been subdivided so much. It's all under one packaging banner. And LEGO fans tend to be pretty loyal.
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Lets not forget that when it comes to sheer fun, I think Lego beats out regular action figures by a wide margain. I know many parents that would much rather buy lego because theres just so much more you can do with it. That's true for me as well, I spend a lot more time building a lego set than I would messing with an action figure. As far as value for entertainment factor, lego wins.
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So...thinking ahead to next year, I wonder if we will see the inevitable clearance on the Darth Maul packaged stuff to make way for swag in the new Yoda-themed packaging. And if so, at what point will that clearancing get started? I am guessing around the holidays since the relaunch is sometime after the first of the year. Plus it's the easiest time to dump a lot of unmoving product with so much added foot traffic.
Not that there was a lot released this year that would even be worth picking up for pennies on the dollar, but maybe some of the mini-rigs...
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Sounds like Spider Maul is coming next year....in a realistic style. :( >:( :'(
You guys already put that out a year or two ago! You couldn't just jam the new animated torso onto the realistic base?!?
Weak, weak sauce.
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Sounds like Spider Maul is coming next year....in a realistic style. :( >:( :'(
You guys already put that out a year or two ago! You couldn't just jam the new animated torso onto the realistic base?!?
Weak, weak sauce.
there has never been a Spider Maul. The only past release in realistic version was Cyborg leg style Maul in that comic pack.
(http://geektyrant.com/storage/post-images/comic1.jpg)
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Ah yes, you are 100% right, apologies.
I was thinking of the custom one that sold on eBay earlier this year for like $80.
Wonder if this is something that re-uses previous tooling or all-new. (In terms of upper torso)
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Didn't Hasbro say they weren't going to NYCC this year?
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I probably couldn't care less if they made spider-Maul. Not sure why they even did that in the show...will they explain how he got that way?
I'd rather see new tooling go toward something of significance...even like Lava Flea or something I probably also wouldn't buy.
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Didn't Hasbro say they weren't going to NYCC this year?
Not for SW... T-formers and MLP, I believe.
As for that 2-pack... Hasbro could release that Owen again.
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I'm... indifferent, but I'll probably dig it when I see it. The fact it's realistic just screams, to me, that they're wanting to focus CW on realistic looks now... Milk older toolings or repainting, or just do mains for the animated line. Animated seems pretty dead at this point.
I'm happy, personally, but I know it's frustrating if you don't like realistic... I prefer it for one unified line look and I'm happy to get in whatever they make.
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No one bothered to confirm yet?
From SWAN (https://www.facebook.com/SWActionNews/posts/10151306669757153):
Just found out-Clone Wars animated style figures done for the time being. Some characters in realistic style may be in the low articulated Saga Legends line. Black series ( both scales) to stay focused on films -Arnie
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I'm a disappointed they'd relegate the realistics to 5poa line but I am not shocked. At least a basis for better customs
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I'm a disappointed they'd relegate the realistics to 5poa line but I am not shocked. At least a basis for better customs
I don't really care about the realistic Mace that was shown, but damnit I am pissed that the Capt. Rex won't be released!
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I think that wave 1 (Obi-Wan, Rex, Anakin, Battle Droid, 501st Jet Pack trooper) will still come out on the Yoda card.
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Yeah I didn't take it to mean Rex isn't happening per se.
I want him too Greg, probably my fav CW figure from pics so far... I so wanted a Cody though, but if they give us one he'll part swap well enough to a Cody figure I have around I guess.
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Righteous outrage aside, there still seems to be a lot of contradictory info out there. We know that Wave 1 is out in Europe, and some of the same figures will eventually show up in the new Saga Legends line. Other than that, who knows what to believe? Are there are US packaged ones out there? If they wind up releasing CW repaints down the road, might they possibly used the re-use the previous animated sculpts? Seeing as how they would have already established the precedent of releasing animated styled stuff in this new line? (I would guess probably not based on some of the other comments I have read coming out today)
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Ugh, too much confusion about this line.
All animated TCW stuff aside, can anyone give a definite answer as to whether Hasbro will continue with realistic TCW figures? A lot of information regarding this has been jumbled around, from what I can gather is that Hasbro is staying films-only with the Black Series figures.
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Ugh, too much confusion about this line.
All animated TCW stuff aside, can anyone give a definite answer as to whether Hasbro will continue with realistic TCW figures? A lot of information regarding this has been jumbled around, from what I can gather is that Hasbro is staying films-only with the Black Series figures.
The biggest problem right now is when they say "Black Series" you have to be on your toes to determine if they mean 6" or 3.75" - when they say movies only, I think they mean the 6" line.
The 3.75" line is still going to have Mara Jade and the next two realistic TCW figures - Rex and Mace Windu. And then moving forward, any new TCW characters that get made into figures will be in that line as well.
I could be mistaken, but after reading reports on various sites, that seems to be the prevailing school of thought right now.
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I thought they said any new CW figures would be released in the Saga Legends line after Rex and Mace came out in the Black Series?
I know I read that somewhere.
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From Jedi Temple Archives....
Question: Regarding reduced articulation for Star Wars TCW 2012 line, will this trend continue into 2013 if TCW line continues? And will it continue into 2013.
ANSWER: If TCW characters are brought into the collector-focused line, they will be realistic and come super-articulated. Animated TCW figures are no longer being made. There will be no more The Clone Wars figures as you've known it the last 5 years.
The question and answer don't exactly match up. My guess is that the Hasbro rep answering the question had this answer planned as how to respond to any questions about future TCW figures. Maybe it's just because Rex and Mace are on the horizon in the Black 3.75" Series, who knows really? Next year there could be zero TCW characters in the line at all.
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Found it...this was what I was thinking of Pete, from Hasbro's 2013 Product Information:
STAR WARSŪSAGA LEGENDS 3.75-INCH ACTION FIGURES
(Approximate retail price: $5.99; Ages: 4 & up; Available: Fall 2013)
These STAR WARS 3.75-inch action figures include the same high quality design kids have been enjoying for years, but now at a new lower price. The line includes characters from the STAR WARS movies as well as the STAR WARS: The Clone Wars animated series. Each sold separately.
So, who knows really? Sounds like they are kind of all over the place with their info right now...
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From Jedi Temple Archives....
Question: Regarding reduced articulation for Star Wars TCW 2012 line, will this trend continue into 2013 if TCW line continues? And will it continue into 2013.
ANSWER: If TCW characters are brought into the collector-focused line, they will be realistic and come super-articulated. Animated TCW figures are no longer being made. There will be no more The Clone Wars figures as you've known it the last 5 years.
The question and answer don't exactly match up. My guess is that the Hasbro rep answering the question had this answer planned as how to respond to any questions about future TCW figures. Maybe it's just because Rex and Mace are on the horizon in the Black 3.75" Series, who knows really? Next year there could be zero TCW characters in the line at all.
That response sounds perfectly clear to me.
Animated Clone Wars figures are done. Any future Clone Wars characters will be made in a realistic style (ala VC92 - Anakin Skywalker (Clone Wars), VC103 - Obi-Wan Kenobi (Clone Wars), etc).
Found it...this was what I was thinking of Pete, from Hasbro's 2013 Product Information:
STAR WARSŪSAGA LEGENDS 3.75-INCH ACTION FIGURES
(Approximate retail price: $5.99; Ages: 4 & up; Available: Fall 2013)
These STAR WARS 3.75-inch action figures include the same high quality design kids have been enjoying for years, but now at a new lower price. The line includes characters from the STAR WARS movies as well as the STAR WARS: The Clone Wars animated series. Each sold separately.
So, who knows really? Sounds like they are kind of all over the place with their info right now...
As for this? I think that Hasbro is simply referencing the source material, rather than realistic VS animated style figures.
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As for this? I think that Hasbro is simply referencing the source material, rather than realistic VS animated style figures.
I agree with you there. Lots of the 5POA characters revealed are from the prequels AND TCW (Mace, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Yoda, Clones and Droids) so it makes sense that Hasbro would highlight the cross appeal. I suppose it is possible that some Clone Wars-only characters will make it out, as they did have a placeholder Rex figure on display. I'm guessing any TCW characters in the line will be limited to 5POA, and might be a less-animated (if not realistic) style.
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From Jedi Temple Archives....
Question: Regarding reduced articulation for Star Wars TCW 2012 line, will this trend continue into 2013 if TCW line continues? And will it continue into 2013.
ANSWER: If TCW characters are brought into the collector-focused line, they will be realistic and come super-articulated. Animated TCW figures are no longer being made. There will be no more The Clone Wars figures as you've known it the last 5 years.
The question and answer don't exactly match up. My guess is that the Hasbro rep answering the question had this answer planned as how to respond to any questions about future TCW figures. Maybe it's just because Rex and Mace are on the horizon in the Black 3.75" Series, who knows really? Next year there could be zero TCW characters in the line at all.
That response sounds perfectly clear to me.
Animated Clone Wars figures are done. Any future Clone Wars characters will be made in a realistic style (ala VC92 - Anakin Skywalker (Clone Wars), VC103 - Obi-Wan Kenobi (Clone Wars), etc).
Actually it's not clear. There's nothing to say that Clone Wars characters won't be in the Legends line with 5 POA.
Either way, animated sculpting is definitely done.
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Found it...this was what I was thinking of Pete, from Hasbro's 2013 Product Information:
STAR WARSŪSAGA LEGENDS 3.75-INCH ACTION FIGURES
(Approximate retail price: $5.99; Ages: 4 & up; Available: Fall 2013)
These STAR WARS 3.75-inch action figures include the same high quality design kids have been enjoying for years, but now at a new lower price. The line includes characters from the STAR WARS movies as well as the STAR WARS: The Clone Wars animated series. Each sold separately.
So, who knows really? Sounds like they are kind of all over the place with their info right now...
Again, this sounds perfectly clear: Movie characters & Clone Wars characters are to be done in a realistic style in the Legends line, too. And with 5 POA.
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To me, Clone Wars figures done in the realistic style but with only 5 POA is a completely different animal than Clone Wars figures done in the realistic style but with 12-14 POA.
I'd much rather see them out out a new CW character in the Black Series and do it right the first time, instead of delivering a sub-par version of a character that will never offered as a figure ever again.
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I'd much rather see them out out a new CW character in the Black Series and do it right the first time, instead of delivering a sub-par version of a character that will never offered as a figure ever again.
Ditto on this. Imagine the legion of collectors pissed when Hasbro makes a realistic TCW 2-pack of Cyborg Maul and Pre Vizsla - but with only 5 POA. >:( And then it'd be even worse if we got: "Hasbro feels confident that the versions of Maul and Pre Vizsla are up-to-date. Going forward, there will be no more TCW versions of either character."
I could totally see that happening.
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It does stink that there won't be any more CW stuff. I was hoping we'd at least see it continue in the Black Series with the realistic style, I've loved all of those so far. Still, I guess it is nice to know one way or the other on the animated line instead of continuing to wonder. It is amazing how quickly this fell off of Hasbro's radar. When it launched it seemed it was all that mattered, and has turned into an afterthought the past couple years and now just fizzled away. So much nice stuff left on the table too. Even some exclusive "Bounty Hunters" or "Death Watch" multipacks would be cool.
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Had "the talk" with my son today. (and did not even have to talk about birds OR bees :)) He was a little upset that the line was ending, but is majorly getting into OT Lego sets. By the time the new movies hit, he will be too old to want to collect action figures any more. Without his support it will be hard to continue to front the cash for collecting with the wife's approval.
So in short, Hasbro's lack of an exit strategy for the Clone wars has likely cost them 2 or 3 more years of sales from my son, that will almost certainly head to Lego.
Sorry Hasbro, you blew it.
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The future is realistic style figures in The Black Series. They already did 3 x realistic Clone Wars characters in The Vintage Collection. And there were realistic CW Mace Windu & Captain Rex figures planned for the Legacy Collection before it was revamped as The Black Series. Seeing how Hasbro already revealed those characters this past summer, they're likely to be offered in some way, shape or form in The Black Series. Not Saga Legends.
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File this one under "WTF?" or "Things that rub salt in the wound":
Entertainment Earth just posted FIVE new 2012 Clone Wars assortments. Yes, new case assortments of the 2012 Clone Wars figures, set to arrive this spring. WTF? ???
Clone Wars 2012 Wave 4 Revision 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS37290D1&id=HA-807301583) - April 2013
3x Anakin Skywalker, 2x Clone Trooper (Phase II), 1x Captain Rex, 1x Obi-Wan Kenobi, 1x Plo Koon, 1x Yoda, 1x Mace Windu, 1x Chewbacca, 1x Commander Fox
Clone Wars 2012 Wave 4 Revision 2 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS37290D2&id=HA-807301583) - April 2013
3x Anakin Skywalker, 1x Clone Trooper (Phase II), 1x Captain Rex, 1x Obi-Wan Kenobi, 1x Commander Cody, 1x Plo Koon, 1x Aqua Battle Droid, 1x Savage Opress, 1x Cad Bane, 1x Yoda
Clone Wars 2012 Wave 4 Revision 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS37290D3&id=HA-807301583) - April 2013
3x Anakin Skywalker, 3x Clone Trooper (Phase II), 1x Commander Cody, 1x Plo Koon, 1x Aqua Battle Droid, 1x Savage Opress, 1x Cad Bane, 1x Yoda
Clone Wars 2012 Wave 4 Revision 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS37290D4&id=HA-807301583) - April 2013
4x Anakin Skywalker, 4x Clone Trooper (Phase II), 2x Yoda, 2x Commander Fox
Clone Wars 2012 Wave 4 Revision 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS37290D5&id=HA-807301583) - May 2013
1x Republic Commando Boss, 5x Anakin Skywalker, 5x Clone Trooper (Phase II), 1x Aayla Secura
So... we can't get the 2013 Clone Wars figures in the USA, but we can get five new assortments of 2012 figures? ::)
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um...what?!?!
5 revision cases? FIVE? All of which have more or less the same figures? WTF, indeed.
I guess this would explain why the TCW figures currently on the pegs aren't getting clearanced, ala Target and TVC. Must be the same DPCI.
At least this will give fans another shot at those hard to find Obi and Anakin figures. I mean, why WOULD you re-issue Scuba Ahsoka? She was only the most interesting figure released all year. ::)
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Ahh... more opportunities for Phase II clones ;)
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Holy crap... 18 Anakins and 15 Clones spread among the 5 cases. The burning question is WTF wasn't TVC packed in a similar manner. Royal Guards, Malgii, and Republic Troopers probably would have sold thru at 3x per case, maybe even 5x.
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Clearly no one is minding the store. I'm not one to pile on Hasbro, but this is really bad business.
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EE is gonna choke on all those Anis
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My God is that stuff ever stale.
Blech.
If Hasbro claims this stuff isn't selling, they can hold a mirror up to themselves and blame their own case packs and distribution. It is the root of all evil.
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Ok, after re-reading Jeff's original post, I am convinced I saw the Wave 4 Revision 2 case at three separate Targets today. Rex and Obi were the giveaways. All the figures from that case were at all 3 stores, and these were stores that had been pretty well picked over for the past few weeks.
Figures they would skimp on the Foxes!
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Well, it's been fun guys (and gals....well, mostly guys). It seems that the Clone Wars toy line is dead, and the cartoon along with it. My days of trolling the boards will most likely come to a close. My son will likely be too old to think toys are cool when Ep.7 comes out, and with only a handful of episodes left we will just have to find other ways to enjoy our time together before he becomes a young man that no longer needs his dad. This is a sad moment for me. The Clone Wars gave me a second chance to power-walk to the toy section and cross my fingers that a new and exciting Star Wars figure would be dangling from the pegs. But more importantly, it gave me an excuse to lock myself away on one side of the house with my boy and just have a great time creating battles and adventures. He still asks me to play "Clone Wars" every Saturday morning. Will that last another year, or two? Now that new episodes are gone, I don't know. But I am going to get the most out of it that I can.
It has been great interacting with so many Clone Wars fans, and I will miss the fun. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and stories over the years. New adventures of the Clone Wars will be seen on a live performance basis only for the immediate future at our household, and I guess that is all I could ever ask for.
Thank you Jedidefender. It has been great.
-TheSon
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Well, it's been fun guys (and gals....well, mostly guys). It seems that the Clone Wars toy line is dead, and the cartoon along with it. My days of trolling the boards will most likely come to a close. My son will likely be too old to think toys are cool when Ep.7 comes out, and with only a handful of episodes left we will just have to find other ways to enjoy our time together before he becomes a young man that no longer needs his dad. This is a sad moment for me. The Clone Wars gave me a second chance to power-walk to the toy section and cross my fingers that a new and exciting Star Wars figure would be dangling from the pegs. But more importantly, it gave me an excuse to lock myself away on one side of the house with my boy and just have a great time creating battles and adventures. He still asks me to play "Clone Wars" every Saturday morning. Will that last another year, or two? Now that new episodes are gone, I don't know. But I am going to get the most out of it that I can.
It has been great interacting with so many Clone Wars fans, and I will miss the fun. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and stories over the years. New adventures of the Clone Wars will be seen on a live performance basis only for the immediate future at our household, and I guess that is all I could ever ask for.
Thank you Jedidefender. It has been great.
-TheSon
Damn. I don't even want to think about the day where my son moves on. Enjoy every minute with that boy, and I think someday he'll realize just how lucky he is to have such a great dad.
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I dealt with my gf's boys moving on from toys... we still share a lego minifigure passion even though they're 18 and 15 though, but I dealt with the Star Wars loss... It sucked. Now I'm dealing with one going to college and the other one fixated on sports and video games. Things we share, but the toy thing sucked when it faded.
They've become my friends and I'll be seeing less of them as the years go on. It was something I totally didn't prepare for. :-\
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It has been great interacting with so many Clone Wars fans, and I will miss the fun. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and stories over the years. New adventures of the Clone Wars will be seen on a live performance basis only for the immediate future at our household, and I guess that is all I could ever ask for.
Thank you Jedidefender. It has been great.
-TheSon
Thanks to you for being one of many enthusiasts of the line who helped make this a fun place to come and share excitement about the animated stuff. I will really miss the community aspect here as well. SW will never seem quite as fun or exciting now that the Clone Wars is dead. I expect I'll hang around for a while longer but gradually fade back out over time. It was a really fun ride that ended far too soon.