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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => 30th Anniversary Collection => Topic started by: Rune Haako on October 12, 2006, 01:56 PM
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http://www.r2dtoys.com/store/store.pl?action=search&category=-1&textsearch=30th&sub_category=-1&sub_category2=-1&id=2363
It doesn't say Concept Stormtrooper, they list it in Wave 1.
They also list the Jawa coming with a LIN Droid.
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I REALLY hope that they re-pack the VOTC version. I missed out on those when they were out and would love to get my mitts on a few.
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Nice to see the figures coming out for Waves 2 and 3.
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Im curious to see Biggs.
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Me, too. Looks like we'll get X-Wing and Academy versions.
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The only one there that interests me is Concept Chewbacca. And maybe Biggs if he's the Tosche Station deleted scene version--but not if it's X-wing Biggs.
EDIT: N/m, I see elsewhere that this should be the Anchorhead version. Which puts me at "maybe".
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I could handle it if it was X-Wing Biggs with removable helmet, new sculpted head and the VTSC X-Wing Luke body. ;D
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i sure hope its the VOTC stormie
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All the 2007 rumors from earlier this year said that it willl be Academy Biggs. I sure hope it is. I get bored of pilots all in the same unifrom, with the only difference being the head nad helmet.
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If it's not a VOTC stormie, I'll pass. I may buy the others excluding Vader. ::)
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I'm pretty happy about that droid packed with the Jawa. I will mainly be getting it for the droid but a Jawa is always welcome.
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If the Jawa is new & has SGs I may pick up a few, if not I'll pick 2. i don't have any Jawas. :(
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Here's the list, I people are curious and don't want to hit the link.
Wave 2
REBEL SENTRY HONOR GUARD
HAN SOLO
LUKE SKYWALKER
DEATH STAR TROOPER
BIGGS DARKLIGHTER
CONCEPT BOBA FETT
Wave 3
MIIYOOM
ELIS HELROT
DARTH VADER
BIGGS
LUKE
JAWA DROID & LIN DROID
STORMTROOPER
CONCEPT CHEWBACCA
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Is that list official? miiyoom and Elis Helrot would be great additions.
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This is the list that R2Dtoys is offering on their pre-orders... I guess nothing is official until Hasbro says it is, but wave 2 appears to be the Yavin wave we were suppose to have this year and there were rumors of Helrot and Miiyoom. Let's hope this pans out!
Wave 2 (http://www.r2dtoys.com/store/store.pl?action=search&category=97&textsearch=&sub_category=&sub_category2=&id=2353)
Wave 3 (http://www.r2dtoys.com/store/store.pl?action=search&category=-1&textsearch=30th&sub_category=-1&sub_category2=-1&id=2363)
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Wow actual Original Trilogy toys for the 2nd Anniversary of ROTS...
I have a "bad feeling about this".
I am predicting "Commtech" on the Stormtrooper. Go with this years formula...a couple new, a couple repaints. There would be 3 (4 if you count the Droid with the Jawa) new on that list...making the Luke the POTF2 version and the Stormtrooper Commtech or perhaps POTJ Sandtrooper. And the rebel honor guard will probably be the POTF2 Rebel Beef Trooper.
And I am all FOR rebel pilots with different heads being in every wave. As long as they get a decent SA body with an average height and build on it. (Dutch Vander is not that body).
Biggs in Academy gear and Ceremony Luke should be nice. I just hope that all of them get superior articulation...But the odds are straight knees and slash cut elbows. Or as I call it..Hasbro's definition of superior articulation.
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I suppose we'll find out soon enough with pictures and everything. I'd certainly be nice to know for certain. Maybe I can stop converting Sandtroopers then...
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I tried converting a sandtrooper, but couldn't get it as clean as I wanted without hitting the eyeridge area- what are you using to apply your remover?
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LIN droid - :) with new Jawa ? ;D
Stormtrooper - I predicting its Commtech, not VOTC - save it for Greatest hits
Death Star Trooper - :) finally
Concept Chewbacca - YES, but no concept vader yet?
New X-Wing Pilot Biggs - :)
Anchorhead Biggs - WHAT?
Hasbro producing 2 biggs, he was in the film for about ten minutes and Anchorhead scene not in the film. ugh
WHERE is the SA Wedge, both X-Wing and Snowspeeder versions? >:(
Hasbro does not love Wedge for some reason!!!
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Well, going by the list of waves two and three, and given Hasbro's penchant to the three "R"s these days, this is my honest opinion of what we will probably end up getting in terms of new vs. rehash, articulation, etc:
WAVE TWO:
REBEL SENTRY HONOR GUARD: I assume these are the guys to either side of the door when Han and Luke enter the Throne Room at the end. The body will probably be Captain Antilles from the waist down, with resculpted torso and arms (cut socket joints and wrist joints), a balljointed head, and a new helmet. He'll also include a Rebel blaster that won't fit in the holster and a repaint of Sun Fac's staff.
HAN SOLO: VOTC version with new upper torso and a medal
LUKE SKYWALKER: New sculpt with horrible soft goods coat (ala Princess Leia collection in 1998, but better), but no knee or ankle articulation. Will come with medal, lightsaber, and blaster.
DEATH STAR TROOPER: Either the 2006 Death Star Gunner with a new head and helmet, or the 2002/2003 Imperial Officer with a new head and helmet. If it is a totally all-new sculpt, I'd be shocked.
BIGGS DARKLIGHTER: If there are really going to be two Biggs figures next year, this one will be the lesser of the two, and will probably be the Dutch body with a new head and removable helmet, or (if they're being nice) the VTSC Luke Pilot with a new head and removable helmet.
WAVE THREE:
CANTINA GUYS: These will be all-new sculpts, unless there's some way they can recycle some of the post-OTC Cantina trio's bodies' parts for the new characters. And knowing Hasbro, they probably can and will.
DARTH VADER: It'll either be the 500th Vader (again) or the one that's coming out in the Commemorative Tin with the ANH chestplate and removable helmet. In other words, a complete rehash.
BIGGS: If this is the Anchorhead Biggs, I would imagine it's a totally new sculpt.
LUKE: Probably the 2006 TSC Tatooine Luke rereleased with some new accessory that will be interesting enough to warrant people buying it (Moisture Vaporator, perhaps? Hasbro did say at one point that one was coming in 2007...)
JAWA AND LIN DROID: The Jawa will probably be the CommTech version (which, all kidding aside, is one of the only POTF2 figures that IMO works with the newer molds) and the LIN Droid (whatever that is; I'm assuming it's one of the Sandcrawler Droids we haven't gotten yet) is a new sculpt.
STORMTROOPER: This had BETTER be the VOTC Stormtrooper, totally white with no battle damage. There is no excuse for them to release a Sandtrooper with that body sculpt, an EU Trooper using that body, and then wind up rereleasing the CommTech version again. Hasbro knows people want the VOTC Stormtrooper, and if they packed it at 2 per case in every assortment for the year it would STILL outsell a lot of the "new" figures. If you're going to rehash something, rehash something good that people will buy, not Mace the Grape Ape or Twist and Shout Obi-Wan from the ROTS line.
I really hope I'm wrong with the amount of rehashing I'm dreading above, especially with the first wave of ROTS stuff being so cool looking and almost completely new molds being used. But, if this year has taught me anything (and if the Vader with Coin Book being the 500th figure yet again is any indication), it's that Hasbro will rehash as much as they can as often as they can.
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My hopes:
Rebel Sentry Guard- New,SA
Han Solo- VOTC re-hash
Luke Skywalker- New,SA
Death Star Trooper- New,SA, Removable Helmet,Head Variations
Biggs Darklighter- VTSC Luke re-hash
Wave 3:
Miiyoom & Elis Helrot- New,SA,Knees
Darth Vader-Commerative Tin set re-hash w/ Evo Shaw head
Biggs-New,SA
Luke-VOTC re-pack
Jawa & Droid- Either New,Cloth Cloaked,SA or POTF 2 re-pack, Droid all-new
Stormtrooper- Either VOTC re-pack or VOTC re-paint w/ Battle damage
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I tried converting a sandtrooper, but couldn't get it as clean as I wanted without hitting the eyeridge area- what are you using to apply your remover?
Just a Q-tip. Some nooks a crannies I can't get (mainly just above the belt and the grills in the for arms,) but I'm just too lazy to use other tools. The eye ridge area is tricky. What I do is use one side of the Q-tip tip to get all the heavy stuff off (the entire body,) and then use the other side to touch up. With the head, my first pass doesn't get as close to the black eyeridge. During the second pass, after the Q-tip gets some use, I use my finger on the fluff that's coming off to give the helmet a more detailed clean. Your fingernail is much more accurate. Always works.
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My hopes:
Rebel Sentry Guard- New,SA
Han Solo- VOTC re-hash
Luke Skywalker- New,SA
Death Star Trooper- New,SA, Removable Helmet,Head Variations
Biggs Darklighter- VTSC Luke re-hash
Wave 3:
Miiyoom & Elis Helrot- New,SA,Knees
Darth Vader-Commerative Tin set re-hash w/ Evo Shaw head
Biggs-New,SA
Luke-VOTC re-pack
Jawa & Droid- Either New,Cloth Cloaked,SA or POTF 2 re-pack, Droid all-new
Stormtrooper- Either VOTC re-pack or VOTC re-paint w/ Battle damage
I'm REALLY sory and I don't want to be ruining your hopes, but I doubt an SA Jawa is ever going to happen.
On a brighter note, head variations would be great on the hopefully SA Death Star Trooper...I wonder if there were any black or mustacheioed ones...thatd be cool.
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Didn't Hasbro at one time state the VOTC/VTSC figures would never be re-released in their original format?
Yes, they are re-releasing the Biker Scout, but he's not the same as he was in the VTSC line.
Maybe that's why we haven't seen the VOTC stormtrooper exactly as he was...we've seen him with a pauldron and as a 501st, but not just white...
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I wonder then, what could Hasbro tweek to make the VOTC sculpt a normal trooper? Perhaps a removable helmet.
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It's the VOTC one but it's gonna have a removable helmet with Jango a head.
(From Rebelscum (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Greatest_Hits_2007_Fan_Favorites_Round_1_Results_100933.asp))
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That's great news, and thanks for passing it along. Hopefully the figure will be packed heavily in the cases, because you know it will be a tough find regardless. They talked about this a bit on this week's Forcecast, with Dan Curto (from RS) commenting that next year's line will have something "new" done to any figure that is a repack (along the lines of the new head on Obi, removable helmet feature on this Stormie). That's good news at least, if it holds out to be true. A few more confirmations in that RS report posted by Rune as well, and I'm happy to hear that the Rebo band might be coming back eventually (2008). I always wanted it, but waited on picking it up in case it might be coming back, good to hear that it might be.
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I don't like the idea of more Jango heads for OT Troopers, but the idea of $6-7 VOTC Stormies allows me to overlook that little bump. :)
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Yeah, I kind of agree Jeff, but I figure the helmets can stay on :). Plus, VOTC Stormies in the basic line is definitely a good thing.
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I don't like the idea of more Jango heads for OT Troopers, but the idea of $6-7 VOTC Stormies allows me to overlook that little bump. :)
Let's just hope George does not add some scenes in the OT of stormtroopers taking off their helmets to reveal Jango heads. But I don't doubt that he will do it.
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My excitement is that hopefully Han and Luke head swaps might be a little bit easier
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removable helmets are OK, but I really hope this isn't a re-pack of the Tin set. The helmet looks a little sucky on it. :-\
If it is an all new- helmet I'll be super happy. Either way I'm picking this guy up every time I see him. *Hopes Hasbro packs stormie x 2 & has wave 3 out as much as GB wave*
Yeah, that'll never happen. ::)
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but I really hope this isn't a re-pack of the Tin set.
Same here.
I'm actualy afraid of how the new trooper can turn out. The torso on the Tin one is awful.
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I don't like the idea of more Jango heads for OT Troopers
God, me either. I swear, I don't like how easily Hasbro design is incorporating the prequels into the OT designs lately. Granted, the helmets can stay on, but just the thought of Temeura Morrison under there will bother me :P
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but I really hope this isn't a re-pack of the Tin set.
Same here.
I'm actualy afraid of how the new trooper can turn out. The torso on the Tin one is awful.
I can handle the torso but the pin head is what Im worried about.
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sweet i cant wait for these guys now! i will probably have to pick up to 6 of these guys ;D ;D
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I can handle the torso but the pin head is what Im worried about.
Me too except replace "pin" with "Jango"...
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Someone pointed out to me that the Comic book Stormtrooper Han uses a better upper torso, so now I'm less worried.
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Here is an idea for the Big H...just release Han as Stormtrooper with removable helmet. Army builders can leave the helmet on, Revisionists can buy little Jango heads and put them on it and OT Purists won't have a trash can full of Jango heads like I will end up with...(already have half of one with the DS Gunners)
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in another recent nightmare i saw myself skipping home with a bagful of these, tearing one open, popping off that helmet, and seeing that ugly rots jango head looking up at me...eek that sends a shiver down my spine just thinking about it... :P :'(
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I hate Jango just as much as anyone else around here, but I fail to see how this is a bad thing. Even without ever taking the helmet off, it should look better than the current VOTC Stormtrooper's (which is a little under-sized), and it'll mean more play value for the kids and others who don't care who's face is underneath. And yeah, it should make it much easier for customizers interested in making their own "So-and-so in Stormtrooper Disguise" figures.
To sum up: Sure, Jango sucks balls, but even his head under there is better than an actual ball on a stalk, like we've got now. They've taken a figure that's adored throughout all of message boardom, improved it, and are releasing it for several bucks less than what the original cost. Surely there's dozens of other issues to complain about, than this. . .
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I hate Jango just as much as anyone else around here, but I fail to see how this is a bad thing. Even without ever taking the helmet off, it should look better than the current VOTC Stormtrooper's (which is a little under-sized), and it'll mean more play value for the kids and others who don't care who's face is underneath. And yeah, it should make it much easier for customizers interested in making their own "So-and-so in Stormtrooper Disguise" figures.
To sum up: Sure, Jango sucks balls, but even his head under there is better than an actual ball on a stalk, like we've got now. They've taken a figure that's adored throughout all of message boardom, improved it, and are releasing it for several bucks less than what the original cost. Surely there's dozens of other
issues to complain about, than this. . .
i somewhat agree...i guess...
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I hate Jango just as much as anyone else around here, but I fail to see how this is a bad thing. Even without ever taking the helmet off, it should look better than the current VOTC Stormtrooper's (which is a little under-sized), and it'll mean more play value for the kids and others who don't care who's face is underneath. And yeah, it should make it much easier for customizers interested in making their own "So-and-so in Stormtrooper Disguise" figures.
To sum up: Sure, Jango sucks balls, but even his head under there is better than an actual ball on a stalk, like we've got now. They've taken a figure that's adored throughout all of message boardom, improved it, and are releasing it for several bucks less than what the original cost. Surely there's dozens of other issues to complain about, than this. . .
There are, but if we post them in this thread they would be Off Topic.
I stuck a VOTC Han head on my OT Tin Stormtrooper (assuming this is the same as next years single pack) and Matt is right, there is alot better movement in the head with an actual human (or clone if you must) head.
The only problem is that when the helmet is on, it can warp, so even if the helmet is a superior sculpt, it can get all out of whack like the Evolutions Clone helmets... but that is not to complain so much as to make an observation and prediction based on previous experiences with a closely related product from the same supplier/manufacturer within the last 18 months.
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I'm no fan of George's revisionist history and jango in the OT, but when they make it this easy to make Stormtrooper Luke and Han, it can't be that bad. Anyone interested in a future trade of two jango heads for a luke and a han (head)?
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I would be surprised if we got 2 Biggs. I prefer to get one and have it be the Toshe station version.
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Here is an idea for the Big H...just release Han as Stormtrooper with removable helmet.
That's a good idea. Provided the basic figure stormtrooper is the same body as the comic book Hantrooper, I'll just swap the heads. :)
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What head is under the helmet doesn't bother me. I never display troopers without their helmets. Ya never know when the rebels or separatists will attack. Gotta be ready for battle.
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Here is an idea for the Big H...just release Han as Stormtrooper with removable helmet.
That's a good idea. Provided the basic figure stormtrooper is the same body as the comic book Hantrooper, I'll just swap the heads. :)
We can hope. The current version will take some Dremel tool work on both Han and Luke (aside from the height problem with Luke)
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Augh, I've already taken a VOTC Stromie and hollowed out the helmet perfectly.
The head is codys too.
Oh well I'll buy a ton if I can find them! ;D
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I would be surprised if we got 2 Biggs. I prefer to get one and have it be the Toshe station version.
i get confused which is which i want the one with the black jacket and white shirt and no helmet...which is that one? ??? ???
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After opening up the Han/Chewie Comic books two pack, I'm very encouraged about the removable helmet Stormtrooper next year. The Han Stormtrooper is a very solid figure and there's no excuse not to use that body for the '07 trooper.
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If they are giving us a removable helmet Stormtrooper, I wish they would actually release him as a Davin Felth figure.
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If they are giving us a removable helmet Stormtrooper, I wish they would actually release him as a Davin Felth figure.
yeah, that would be nice. and more accurate.
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Yep, but aadly Hasbro & Luca/ company thinks all stormies are clones. ::)
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I happened to have my Tin Sandtrooper handy after I opened my comic Han and tried to swap the heads. unfortunately, the ball joints are different sizes, so neither head would fit on the other body. I hope Hasbro is industrious enough to make a new head sculpt for the stormtrooper.
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Pics? I want to see the comparison of the body to see what they are using.
My 5 OT Tin Stormies are nice, I am just not sure about the chest armor being a bit small-ish.
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Yeah, the way I look at the ANH tin Sandtrooper converted to a Stormtrooper is that it's better than the CT mold but not as good as the VOTC mold. The one I have has replaced a CT Stormie on the shelf for now.
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Yeah, the way I look at the ANH tin Sandtrooper converted to a Stormtrooper is that it's better than the CT mold but not as good as the VOTC mold. The one I have has replaced a CT Stormie on the shelf for now.
thats how i feel about this fig. it was what most of the 30 bucks invested in the tin was for. Eh, oh well, at least i got that great Vader!
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Pics? I want to see the comparison of the body to see what they are using.
My 5 OT Tin Stormies are nice, I am just not sure about the chest armor being a bit small-ish.
It's identical in every way to the VOTC stormtrooper body accept that the ball joint that holds the helmet is made to fit Han's VOTC head. :D
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Ooooh...
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/12-06/tn_stormtrooper1.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1167420114,45939,)
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he looks a little awkward. not sure why just does. head looks weird to. but id take it non the less.
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Hopefully he will look better once Cody's head is plucked off and Han or Luke's replace it.
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He looks fine to me, for what he is... It's a scarred clone with the black hood (ala the Death Star Gunner) on. It's definitely not Cody under there.
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Looks great! Can't wait to get ahold of a few. Nice to confirm that he's on the proper body.
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Very cool. Just when you thought that the VOTC Stormtrooper couldn't be topped we get something like this. Progress is a good thing.
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Now if it were a year ago (hell, even 6 months ago), I would have bitched about the Jango head being used. But after getting the Death Star Gunner, I've realized that using the removable helmet with the Jango head is actually cool. The DSG is a great figure, but now that we're getting the VOTC Stormtrooper with this treatment... wow. Put me down for as many as I can get my hands on.
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I feel the same way as I do about the DSG: the helmet will stay on, but I still don't like all of the prequel-bridging liberties Hasbro has been making. It'll bother me a little to know Jango is under there.
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I don't like the helmet... looks too much like a merge between the Commtech helmet and a VOTC helmet to me... plus seems like the removable Stormie helmets just look cheap/not painted well. Hopefully it will turn out good though.
;)
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I guess my thought of Stormies being regular guys i.e. not clones have been squashed.
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Bah, the Commtech Stormie is good enough for me. Pass.
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I love it! I'm going to buy a billion of these. Max out all my cards. Sell my dog. Maybe rent a kidney out.
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Bah, the Commtech Stormie is good enough for me. Pass.
Dude. Please wake up. I know it's your thing to come out against every clone trooper and imperial army builder and say it sucks or the version from the 90's is good enough, but just come out with the real reasons you are passing, if that's even true. This little game is getting very, very old. Seriously, what else do you want from these figures that you come out with the "pass" every time something good is shown?
Naboo Hangar tech though, whoooo!! There's a buy!
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Eh, they are just trying to spice up their troopers with the Jango heads anyway. They can sort of win on 2 fronts here. They have merged the prequel and original trilogies together. Prequel fans are happy Jango heads are on there and they can satisfy OT fans by keeping the helmets on the figures.
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Bah, the Commtech Stormie is good enough for me. Pass.
Dude. Please wake up. I know it's your thing to come out against every clone trooper and imperial army builder and say it sucks or the version from the 90's is good enough, but just come out with the real reasons you are passing, if that's even true. This little game is getting very, very old. Seriously, what else do you want from these figures that you come out with the "pass" every time something good is shown?
I was just saying that I'm passing on this figure, no need to get upset.
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It's a VOTC Stormtrooper at a basic carded figure price. That makes me happy.
I'll just keep the helmet on.
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The head sculpt is great & I love the helmet! This is a great figure, even for those who hate the Jango concept.
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Darryl DePriest of Hasbro talked about the issue of Imperial era troops having removable helmets on the Forcecast. Apparently Lucasfilm licensing has been onboard with the concept of Jango clones making up the Stormtrooper corps.
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sure, the figure is made very well and looks good, but i can't see troopers anymore :-\
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I guess my thought of Stormies being regular guys i.e. not clones have been squashed.
Once the helmet is on, I don't even think about it.
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There's some serious complaining about the removable helmet to the point I think some are gonna jump off a cliff, but like Anton said I think you just leave it on and ignore it... I'd rather have A removable helmet than NO removable helmet, even if the likeness underneath isn't my thing.
That said, I'm not Jango Clone fan either so I agree it's disappointing it's not generic, but it is still cool I think. I'm with you there.
The cool thing, at least for customizing, is the head is semi-generic in that if painted differently it will look like anyone, more or less. The hood really helps with that.
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My utter hatred of all things Jango Clone cannot overcome the fact that a removable helmet, IF DONE CORRECTLY, will sit so much more realisticlly than a solid helmet on a peg. If that means I have to get Jango Heads, that's fine, I've replaced all 24 on my DS Gunners, I'll do it for every Imperial troop that comes down the road.
I am over my initial disgust at them re-writing my childhood memories... maybe they could do something about my high school years while they are at it...
I'm just glad we are getting Imperial Troops, maybe they can get us some rebels (without Jango heads) to fight.
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Jango Head rebels... Hmmm... I can hear the gears grind in the minds of Hasbro figure designers. :)
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Sorry about that, but I am sure they have already thought of it, hopefully the actor gets a percentage every time they use his likeness.
I like the hood on these guys too. Although now my mini army of TIN Stormies will have hood envy...
I can't wait to get good comparison pics, I'd love to see what else, if anything they improved over the VOTC and EVO ones.
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Sorry about that, but I am sure they have already thought of it, hopefully the actor gets a percentage every time they use his likeness.
For the SW films, likeness is rights are a standard part of the contract and the actors are well compensated. No percentage, but a hefty bonus.
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;)I think the Death Star Gunner looks a lot like Christian Lambert(Highlander) or does he? ???
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I guess I can see it around the eyes and the nose but his skin is too dark to match the highlander's.
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i just like the removable helmet VOTC thing cause itll be easier to make my custom stormy disguise Luke fig now! (if its not released next year)
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i just like the removable helmet VOTC thing cause itll be easier to make my custom stormy disguise Luke fig now! (if its not released next year)
That, hopefully, will be another bonus for this figure, easily customizable Luke and Han's.
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The New Stormtrooper body is too overscale for Luke, but for Han its perfect !!! The second wave of the Comics Packs, maybe a new smaller stormtrooper body for Luke.
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eh, knowing hasbro they wouldnt care about scale. in the second wave they'd just throw votc luke's head onto votc stormy's body.
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eh, knowing hasbro they wouldnt care about scale. in the second wave they'd just throw votc luke's head onto votc stormy's body.
And paint his hair dark brown or black, since they can't decide on a color for the poor Jedi in training's hair.
I think in one of the Q & A's (painfully and selflessly archived by Matt) the big H mentioned that they would not rescale the body for Luke.
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count me down for 8 of these guys
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I picked up the Comic Pack Han Solo/Chewbacca set the other day, and I have to say that the Stormtrooper helmet is really bad compared to the VOTC Stormtrooper helmet... the Comic one seems to be "fat" and less defined in the sculpt... which worries me a lot about this upcoming Stormtrooper. I really hope the helmets on this upcoming Stormie are better than the Comic version.
;)
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Chewie, do you have the OT TIN Sandtrooper removable helmet? How does it compare to the Han one?
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Yeah, I do. I can try and take a pic to compare them when I get a chance (maybe tonight). What seems to be the main difference from memory though is the helmet from the tin seems a little bit taller/more narrow. I'll try and get a pic up though after dinner!
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Here you go Paul -
VOTC Stormtrooper, Comic Stormtrooper, Tin Stormtrooper -
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/010306stormie1.jpg)
Comic Stormtrooper, Tin Stormtrooper (I put a Tin Stormtrooper body for each one to show only the helmet differences) -
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/010306stormie2.jpg)
This one is in black and white in case the colors of the Comic Pack one are distracting -
(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/010306stormie3.jpg)
To me at least, the comic one is not as defined of a sculpt... it's like its cheaper made or something... and the colors certainly don't help. The other thing is that is doesn't have the little stripes running alongside the "cheeks" of the helmet.
Hope that helps some!
;)
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Interesting. Setting the color scheme aside, I thought the comic pack one was better quality than the tin one. I'll have to re-examine that.
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Well it's really just the helmet that I think is lacking on the sculpt. It's not terrible, I just don't think it's as good as it should be.
;)
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new stormtrooper in 2008 too, it seems, according that otheR Site. :o ???
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Opened this one up this morning, and I am very pleased. This figure seems to be built primarily on the VOTC Stormtrooper "chassis", but with the obvious modifications that come with the removable helmet and trooper head underneath.
IIRC, the gripes in this thread centered around the helmet. And after seeing this figure in person I can see where some of those gripes come from. It seems as though one detail might have been giving people a little bit of a hangup. I noticed that there didn't seem to be a gap between the eyes and the black band around the crown of the helmet on the figure. So I did some digging around and there seems to be a level of inconsistency in the Stormtrooper helmets in the movies. Just look at some of these images. They're not consistent.
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/0d/Storm-CHRON.jpg)
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/7/72/Storm-swc.jpg)
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The location of the lens of course isn't the only discrepancy with the Stormie helmets. The mouth grille is different from helmet to helmet with ANH having the biggest gap. Some grilles are black the entire length, some only half way.
As for the figure itself, I currently have 5 of these guys and overall I'm pleased with them. I think they used a softer plastic on the limbs or at least the joints as they are not as stiff as their VOTC counterpart. I was not happy with how low the helmet sits on the figure so what I've done is turn the Clone head around and put the helmet back on over it, now the helmet sits as it should. That makes a world of difference for these guys.
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The black band around the helmet right above the eye lenses is a communications antenna, and is mobile. That's why some have it close to the lenses, and others have it closer to the forehead.
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I picked up 4 of these guys tonight. Other than a few with slightly warped helmets I think my biggest concern is how loose the damn torso is on these guys. Mine feels like it is about to break off, and it is hard to position it without it moving. I noticed Darth_Anton's (the first oen I ever saw open) had the same problem. I think I may go for 36 of these guys, all of which will keep thier helmets on, or have the clone heads swapped. :P
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I popped two more open last night. I've decided that the Helmet hangs too low. I also noticed that the right hand has a looser grip. This is a good and bad thing. Good because it can now hold other weapons, bad because the weapon it comes with sits loose in the hand. :P
I'm still undecided on how many I'm going to pick up. Anywhere between 14 and 41.
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I too was bothered by the looseness of the helmet, so I came up with a super easy fix. I just jammed some wax into the top of the helmet. Then I squished the helmet down until it completely covered the trooper's head. Now, not only is the helmet nice and tight, he does not look like he's shrugging, plus he's a wee bit taller!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/sasee_one/st.jpg)
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I picked up 4 of these guys tonight. Other than a few with slightly warped helmets I think my biggest concern is how loose the damn torso is on these guys. Mine feels like it is about to break off, and it is hard to position it without it moving. I noticed Darth_Anton's (the first oen I ever saw open) had the same problem.
I'm having the same problem with mine, Ryan. All three of the ones I've gotten and opened have incredibly loose torsos for some unknown reason. I'm hoping that Hasbro fixes this in future shipments of the figure, as it's something that a lot of people (myself included) want multiples of, and it would be nice to have them stand at attention instead of falling backwards. :)
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Bend him back a little, so you can see the inner joint of it, Take a tube of super glue, pour some in (a very small amount), And continue moving the torso ball joint around, the glue wil spread and dry giving a bit of roughness to work against. I use this when I customize, you just have to continue moving the joint :-*
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I picked up one of these the other night and i'm rather pleased. The removeable helmet is a nice touch and I haven't really had any problems other than the ankle joints being very stiff...
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Bend him back a little, so you can see the inner joint of it, Take a tube of super glue, pour some in (a very small amount), And continue moving the torso ball joint around, the glue wil spread and dry giving a bit of roughness to work against. I use this when I customize, you just have to continue moving the joint :-*
For a second there I thought I was reading something from a gay mens magazine. ;D
Not there's anything wrong with that.
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Bend him back a little, so you can see the inner joint of it, Take a tube of super glue, pour some in (a very small amount), And continue moving the torso ball joint around, the glue wil spread and dry giving a bit of roughness to work against. I use this when I customize, you just have to continue moving the joint :-*
For a second there I thought I was reading something from a gay mens magazine. ;D
Not there's anything wrong with that.
Obviously not, given you seem to have some reference point to which you can recall.
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Mmm Hmmm
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I found 3 the other day and took the heads off Comic Han and Luke so I have movie accurate versions. I am shocked, I like the tantive Stormtrooper better for army building. I do not feel the need to have Stormtroopers with removable helmets. Still a good figure with improved white molding. It would have been nice to get a rifle with him too. I am also happy the blaster actually fits in the holster this time.
My waists were actually tight.
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I am shocked, I like the tantive Stormtrooper better for army building.
I'm reading this a few times on a couple sites, and I'm trying to figure out why exactly. I agree, no removeable helmets for me, but other than that, does he not look like a Stormtrooper? The Tantive ones are nice, but they don't have the gun holster as well as having the open slot in the back.
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For the record I've got zero of #20 so far, but man-oh-man... :) I'm really excited at the prospect of building up my basic Stormtrooper ranks extensively.
About the T4 Trooper, I like him a lot too but I wouldn't say I like him more or less honestly... I just like him. He's a little diversity to the white armored ranks, and the slot's nice if you want some clean troops with packs ya know? But I'm just ecstatic to be getting a SA stormie in the mix that isn't covered in muck... Been a long time coming.
I just hope Hasbro's got good, smart, well thought remix waves in the works for 2007 because I can't speak for the rest of you but I'm not done building Wave 1 and 2 armies, and now Wave 3 is here... They could do solid army builder cases (2 of any given army builder) and I think they'd be putting out some solid figures that would move well. Hell even the Rebel Honor Guard is a tough find in Pittsburgh and people predicted him a pegwarmer. Dude's been a pain to find... I have 3 and only 1 was bought at a store, haha.
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Somehow, I've managed to snag 9 so far with 6 additional pending.
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I've gotten my requisite 2 and really like how they look. I'm sure I'll come across more, so if people are having a hard time finding these I'll make sure I spread the wealth...
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I guess I've changed my ways some. I am passing on this figure completely, save for possibly a couple to display with their helmets off or for Han/Luke versions. I did pick up two for a local friend, but when I saw the helmets, I was really turned off by them and he was too. Yuck. Glad I've got about 40 of the Tantive IV Stormie. I got rid of all my VOTC (around 30 or so) and I think all my commtech ones (150) are gone too now. Just don't have a need for extra versions that I don't like as much.
:P
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I think this Figure is pretty solid - and I like the price better than the VOTC price. I'll probably buy whatever I see of them.
Which so far is 2.
And this has probably been discussed, but what's up with the little empty spot in the packaging near the gun? Looks like maybe his little backpack thing was supposed to go in there but was stuck on the figure instead?
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And this has probably been discussed, but what's up with the little empty spot in the packaging near the gun? Looks like maybe his little backpack thing was supposed to go in there but was stuck on the figure instead?
I found that odd too, as well as the recessed section down by the feet. ???
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For the record I've got zero of #20 so far, but man-oh-man... :) I'm really excited at the prospect of building up my basic Stormtrooper ranks extensively.
About the T4 Trooper, I like him a lot too but I wouldn't say I like him more or less honestly... I just like him. He's a little diversity to the white armored ranks, and the slot's nice if you want some clean troops with packs ya know? But I'm just ecstatic to be getting a SA stormie in the mix that isn't covered in muck... Been a long time coming.
I just hope Hasbro's got good, smart, well thought remix waves in the works for 2007 because I can't speak for the rest of you but I'm not done building Wave 1 and 2 armies, and now Wave 3 is here... They could do solid army builder cases (2 of any given army builder) and I think they'd be putting out some solid figures that would move well. Hell even the Rebel Honor Guard is a tough find in Pittsburgh and people predicted him a pegwarmer. Dude's been a pain to find... I have 3 and only 1 was bought at a store, haha.
I hear ya Jesse. I have only found Luke from wave3. And strangely enough I just need to AB the Rebel Honor Guard as well from wv2. Other than that fig, I don't need to AB any more from waves 1 and 2. The Stormie is going to be VHTF in our area. I know there are several ABs besides us in the area. In a way you're lucky being a little out of the way. The stores around me get so picked over by the time I'm done with work. It's one reason I network around the U.S. and make trades/deals all over the place. Otherwise, I'd never be able to find the figures I want.
Not unless Hasbro shipps more ABs like this in a case, and they've already said they are against that. So we just have to hope they show up in refresh cases later. The ABs from wvs 1 and 2 are goign to keep shipping, so I have every reason to believ ethe iconic Stormtrooper will. Heck that figure should practically be available all year round...
-Sal
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Well, since this guy is going over soo well. All your comtech are belong to me :-*
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Give me a repack of the VOTC Stormie instead with a properly painted helmet mozzel and a more crisp white plastic and I'm in for dozens.
This helmet gets worse each time I see it -
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC20stormhelmfr.jpg)
I think I might hate this figure more than Jesse hates the Rebel Fleet Trooper.
:P
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Gtg, Use their VOTC sculpt, they made it hollow. A bit of paint and boom, better quality. :P
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Actually, Smarty, you reminded me of a thread I posted at RS: I'll gladly trade 5 CT Stormies (no chips left though) for 2 of this Stormie or the T4 Stormie.
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I bought two of these last night. I'm really not pleased at all. >:(
At least you can put the comic pack Han and Luke heads on them. That's all the use I could find for them.
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I don't get why everybody hates this figure. I thought it was the same as the VOTC Stormie, except with new head?
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I think it's the new head that's the problem. From the neck down, it's OK, but from there up, not so much.
It is good to have a Stormtrooper back on the shelves that doesn't cost $10 or part of a multi-pack, though. It's a step in the right direction like that.
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It seems as though the helmets vary. If it's gotten squished in the package at the packing stage it's more likely to look deformed. That's because of the pliability of the plastic. If the plastic was harder it would be less likely to deform. But then there might be some safety issues involved that are controlling the choice in plastics since the helmet is a small item that could present a choking hazard.
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I think they just did a shoddy job on it. The helmet from the Evolutions AOTC Clone Trooper is removable, and fine. To me they should be capable of doing the same for a Stormtrooper helmet if they put the efforts in.
(http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS/swevol_CT-ST2cloneparts.jpg)
The new Stormie helmet isn't even painted right. To me this looks like a cheap cop out just to give him a removable helmet. Biggest letdown in quite some time for me. But at least there's other options of Stormies to fall back on.
:P
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That AOTC standard Clone helmet deforms quite a bit when you put it on the figure, don't kid yourself about that. The pilot helmet seems to hold up better for what ever reason. But on the standard clone you'll notice a bump somewhere on the front of the helmet from the nose protruding through.
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Well maybe it does slightly, but it's still not too bad. I've got about 15 of them in a diorama and they blend in very well with the SA phase 1 clones.
:P
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Hey, I like the Evolutions Clone despite that defect. As for this Stormtrooper, I feel the same way. And I still don't see the appeal of the Tantive IV Stormtrooper since it's just a cleaned up Sandtrooper. The gear on that trooper is just not correct. It's got the wrong utility belt and a notch in it's back that doesn't need to be there.
BTW, nice avatar Chewie!
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Actually, Smarty, you reminded me of a thread I posted at RS: I'll gladly trade 5 CT Stormies (no chips left though) for 2 of this Stormie or the T4 Stormie.
PM sent!
BTW, nice avatar Chewie!
Ditto!
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Nicklab you're 100% right about the Tantive IV Stormie not being as accurate as it could be. I just really prefer it for some reason. It has a more pure white color than the VOTC in my opinion, and to me that's a big part of why I like it so much. Add to it that I like the helmet a lot, and it has good enough articulation for me. The only thing I'd change about it if I were to be able to, would be the waist articulation. Other than that, I'm 100% happy with it. Glad you do like this new Stormie though, it's just not for me. I guess with so many versions I'm ok with going with a previous version for my army building.
I like the avatar too. I wish I could supersize it. :)
:P
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I don't get why everybody hates this figure. I thought it was the same as the VOTC Stormie, except with new head?
The helmet. I'll still get 15. If I find them.
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Wow, I'm kind of shocked at the seeming vitriol for the 30AC Stormie. Since the last five I've found have seemingly had the waist looseness issue corrected, I'm beyond thrilled with it. Different strokes to move the world, I guess. :-\
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I'm not disappointed myself... Was just mentioning in the "how many ya got" thread there, that I got 2 this weekend and am overall happy. There's little things wrong but nothing I'd consider a deal-breaker on it.
The biggie is the head's size for the helmet. The head is just too small for the helmet it seems and a little annoying then with how the helmet rests on the head, and things. It sits too low. While I know there's complaints on the helmet's sculpt, I consider it "good enough" more or less. I'm not a Stormie helmet sculpt expert though so while I knwo there's differences between the 3 films and all, and this one may not be perfect, it seemingly serves its purpose to me. To have the chance at SA clean while Stormtroopers, I'm happy then. Plan to slip some different headsculpts on there though and hopefully get the helmet issue fixed up a bit then so it sits better on different heads.
I don't know on the height yet, I've yet to take the time to compare my 2 to other stormtroopers and figures. The height thing might be a little frustrating to me but we'll see how big the difference in height is. If it's a gap like the new DST's height issue is, it could be distracting. And at least the DST is fixable with a little slicing and hole drilling. Getting a figure TALLER is not so easy. :-\
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The biggie is the head's size for the helmet. The head is just too small for the helmet it seems and a little annoying then with how the helmet rests on the head, and things. It sits too low. While I know there's complaints on the helmet's sculpt, I consider it "good enough" more or less. I'm not a Stormie helmet sculpt expert though so while I knwo there's differences between the 3 films and all, and this one may not be perfect, it seemingly serves its purpose to me. To have the chance at SA clean while Stormtroopers, I'm happy then. Plan to slip some different headsculpts on there though and hopefully get the helmet issue fixed up a bit then so it sits better on different heads.
I'm doing the same thing. The OT purist in me believes none of these troopers are Jango clones anyways, so it works out for the best. I did a qucik swap with the Comic 2-Pack Luke while I was fooling around and it sits MUCH better. All of my troopers are going to have some Regular old human heads at some point.
Wow, I'm kind of shocked at the seeming vitriol for the 30AC Stormie. Since the last five I've found have seemingly had the waist looseness issue corrected, I'm beyond thrilled with it. Different strokes to move the world, I guess. :-\
I'm in the same boat here DP. I'm personally a big foan of the figure. The Tantive version doesn't really do it for me. Don't get me wrong it is still a real nice figure but the lack of waist articulation on that figure, as well as the Sandtrooper belt, really kind of killed it for me. I'm fine with just my two of those for now unless they go on clearance.
Personally I can overlook the slightly warped helmet. I've notice mine have it in varing degrees some are barely noticeable, while on others the distortion is slightly more obvious but still isn't overwhelming. Correctly painted nozzles would have been nice, but IIRC these have been messed up on other Stormtroopers as well. If they really start to bug me I'll repaint them myself. A lot of my later troopers do seem to have tighter torsos as well which is a relief.
I'm only at 4 right now but I think I'll pick this one up everytime I see it. It is cheaper than VOTC, and also has more of a pure white plastic.
Oh and Jesse, the height seems about right to me. The trooper is about VTSC Han's height without the helmet. I think I may try and shorten some of mine a wee bit to add some height differential to my ranks. Being that these guys ARE NOT clones. :P
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Speaking of the head sculpts, does everyone's look possessed with misprinted, high positioned pupils? All of mine do.
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Speaking of the head sculpts, does everyone's look possessed with misprinted, high positioned pupils? All of mine do.
Beats me. In my home at least, the helmet isn't actually removable.
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Wow, I'm kind of shocked at the seeming vitriol for the 30AC Stormie. Since the last five I've found have seemingly had the waist looseness issue corrected, I'm beyond thrilled with it. Different strokes to move the world, I guess. :-\
I really haven't complained about any figures in quite some time, so this is just one of those rare times over the past couple years that I've found reason to question Hasbro (about figures they've made of course, the other times I do complain are usually about things they won't make; ie playsets, large vehicles). Glad that some people seem to be pleased with this figure. Enjoy!!
:P
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Hey guys,
I have read that the TAC Stromtrooper helmet will fit over the Comic Luke head but not the VTSC X-Wing Luke head. Does anyone know if it fits over the VOTC Luke head?
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They are all the same heads ::)
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That's what I thought, but I saw actual pictures of the TAC Stromtrooper helmet fitting only halfway down the VTSC Luke head. Has anyone here actually put a TAC Stromtrooper helmet on a VOTC Luke head? So far, I haven't found anyone who has, I've only heard from folks who actually tried it on the Comic head.
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Yes it works.
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Thanks, I really appreciate it!
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I just got this one and opened it. Yeah, I know I'm behind the times with this, and it really isn't anything that hasn't been stated before, but I can't help but chirping in with my disappointment regarding this figure. Maybe you do or do not know, but I'm a big fan of all things Stormtrooper, so this figure's lackluster appearance is a big letdown. That helmet, well, it's too damn big! The figure also seems to be a tad bit shorter than the VOTC Stormie (even at the shoulder). And I think having Jango's head is unnecessary, to say the least.
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The helmet is too big especially when compaired to the VOTC one, but scale wise, I think it's closer to the right size than the VOTC one.
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I like the scale of the #20 Stormy. I was hoping the Hasbro would do the Luke in Stormy Disguise using this sculpt and the Han in the VOTC sculpt. It would be a little more accurate IMO, but what do I know. :P
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I don't know if the helmet is too big as much as the helmet just isn't the right shape. Especially from the profile view. Looks pretty crappy dead on as well. Just a pretty **** job overall from the neck up.