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Title: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on June 8, 2007, 08:04 PM
Link is up on yahoo, anyone up for commish? 

I am not going to Hawaii this year >:(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 8, 2007, 09:40 PM

Link is up on yahoo, anyone up for commish? 


I nominate you.



I am not going to Hawaii this year >:(


I think you have to go back to reverse the curse.  It's an odd number of visits that did this.  Even it up.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on June 9, 2007, 12:25 AM
No big for me to be commish, it's not much work really.  Anyone else wants to pipe up, go for it, otherwise I'll set it up on Sunday.  Same settings as last year, lest I hear otherwise.

Nah, I don't think I'll go back thanks.  Not that I don't want to, but it majorly screwed with my basketball and football too.  I think if I'd been able to switch out receivers, I might have won that first round. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on June 9, 2007, 01:58 AM
I'll second the nomination.



After my team imploded last year, I don't want to be commish anymore.   >:(   :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on June 10, 2007, 04:35 PM
Go ahead and set it up Brent :)

I'm in...we also should think about limiting the # of teams to 12.  More than that and the talent pool gets stretched too thin IMO
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on June 11, 2007, 12:24 AM
Kay, I'm in charge ::)

This is what I found for last year's settings.  LMK if there are problems with it:

Scoring - Head to Head
Playoffs - Week 15,16,17
Max Teams - 12
League Start - Week 1
Can't Cut List - Yahoo Sports
Max Moves - No Maximum
Max Trades - No Maximum
Trade Reject Time - 2 Days
Trade End Date - 11/24/06
Trade Review - League Votes
Waiver Time - 2 Days
Waiver Type - Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings
Sun to Tues Waivers - No
Post Draft Players - Follow Waiver Rules

Roster Size:

QB - 1
WR - 2
RB - 2
TE - 1
WR/TE - 1
WR/RB - 1
K - 1
DEF - 1
BN - 8

Scoring:

Passing TD's - 4 Points (I thought 3 was a little too few last year, but 6 is too many)
INT - Minus 1
Passing Yards - 75 Yards = 1 Point
Passing Bonus - 300 or more Yards = 1 Bonus Point
Rushing TD - 6 Points
Rushing Yards - 25 Yards = 1 Point
Rushing Yarrds Bonus - 100 or more Yards = 1 Bonus Point
Receiving  TD's - 6 Points
Receiving Yards - 25 Yards = 1 Point
Receiving Yards Bonus - 100 or more Yards = 1 Bonus Point
Return TD's - 6 Points
Offensive Fumble Return TD - 6 Points
2 Pt Conversion - 2 Points
Fumbles - 1 Point
Fumbles Lost - Minus 1 Point
Fieldgoals 0-19 Yards - 3 Points
Fieldgoals 20-29 Yards - 3 Points
Fieldgoals 30-39 Yards - 3 Points
Fieldgoals 40-49 Yards - 4 Points
Fieldgoals 50+ Yards - 5 Points
PAT - 1 Point

Defensive Scoring:

Shutout - 6 Points
Sack - 1 Point
INT - 1 Point
Fumble Recovery - 1 Point
Touchdown - 6 Points
Safety - 2 Points
Blocked Kick - 2 Points
Kickoff and Punt Return TD's - 6 Points


Fractional Scoring - Yes
Negative Points - Yes


For what it's worth, I just copied the JD06 settings.

League name: Jedidefender07
League ID#: 46012
password: berry

I have it set for live draft.  We seem to have settled into that nicely right now.  The date is currently set as:

Wed Jul 18 8:30pm CDT

I'm open to changing it to whatever day.  Those of us married with kids would be fine with a weekend I'm guessing.  The schedule is pretty open right now but I expect it will fill up fairly soon.  Later dates are fine by me too, I just picked the date when my wife and daughter are away ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on June 11, 2007, 01:17 AM
That looks pretty much identical to last year's version - IIRC I set passing TD's at 4 as well - I thought 3 wasn't enough, and 6 was way too much.


My only question is what's up with fumbles being a point?

Or is that line just worded wrong?  I don't think a fumble should be a point, but I don't think that it should be minus a point if lost fumbles are also minus a point.

That'd be a pretty big kick in the nuts if your RB fumbled and lost it.  I'd say just -1 for lost fumbles, fumbles that are recovered by the offense shouldn't be worth anything.

Overall, no complaints though.



I'm in - and so are the Golden Girls.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Ryan on June 11, 2007, 01:54 AM
I'm in again as well. :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on June 11, 2007, 02:04 AM
Rob,
I have no idea about the scoring.  I literally was given the option by Yahoo to use jedidefender 2006 scoring as an option, so I took it.  I copied and pasted that info from the first page of last year's thread, so I'll check tomorrow if they match up or not.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 11, 2007, 08:30 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing the playoffs as weeks 14-->16 instead of 15-->17.

Week 17 is a real **** week, we should leave it off.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2007, 01:55 AM
I know we're a long ways out, but it might be a good idea to pick a draft time and get slotted nice and early - last year I had a hard time getting a good one because I didn't realize they fill up and I waited.

I'm okay with anything other than the weekend of the 24th (August) and the evening of August 30th.

My preference would be a week day evening, not too late.  But whatev.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on June 15, 2007, 10:01 AM
I'm pretty open to most dates at this point, so just argue amongst yourselves and let me know.

BTW, has anyone signed up yet?  I'm only seeing my name in the league at the moment, but that may just be my own ineptness at being commissioner.  Get used to it. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Brian on June 15, 2007, 10:09 AM
I'm up for another season, hopefully I can have a decent year for once.  Thanks for setting it up Brent.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2007, 10:28 AM
I'll sign up tonight (yahoo sports is blocked at work).

I say just pick a date, like the 29th of August, maybe at 8:30 PM and if a bunch of people have significant problems, change it.

We're far enough out that most of us should be pretty flexible.  The only reason I can't do the weekend before is because I'm moving the girlfriend up to Michigan, and I can't do the 30th because my other league is drafting.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 15, 2007, 10:38 AM
I'm pretty open to most dates at this point, so just argue amongst yourselves and let me know.

BTW, has anyone signed up yet?  I'm only seeing my name in the league at the moment, but that may just be my own ineptness at being commissioner.  Get used to it. 

Signed up now.

What do you guys think of regular season Weeks 1 to 13 and Playoffs 14 to 16?

I really don't want playoffs in Week 17.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on June 15, 2007, 10:45 AM
Are you red/green color blind by any chance?   :P

I did pick a date: Wed Jul 18 8:30pm CDT.  Obviously that's early.  

The first game is September 6 with the bulk of the games on September 9th.  

So the 18th is early, at least in July.  I changed it to the following:


Wednesday August 29 8:30pm CDT

That's pretty close to the start of the season, so we should have an idea of who has roster spots on most teams by that time.   Mid-week so as not to interrupt those of you who have lives and prior to the long weekend as well.  

As for the playoffs being moved back, it doesn't bother me so long as we figure that out before the draft because it isn't changing after.  I'm not opposed to leaving it as it is though, I think that makes the draft more fair for guys that pick later.  First pick is getting LT, no doubt about that.  He's also probably sitting in week 17, so it makes it more challenging and I personally think that adds to the game, not detracts from it.  You need to manage your team for the entire period, not just thump guys all season long then have no one in the playoffs.  Happened to me two years ago in the Spawn league when I had LT and I paid the price, but it was fair. 

So:

Date - yes, no, suggestions?
Regular season - 1-13 or 1-14? 

Vote please, this is a democracy until I say otherwise. 8)  I abstain until my vote is necessary to break a tie, no other abstentions allowed.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 15, 2007, 11:16 AM
Dressel's vote:

Date - Yes
Regular Season - 1 to 13, playoffs 14 to 16.

2 reasons:

1.  With 1 less regular season games, it makes them a little more meaningful and intense.

2.  It ain't just LT who sits in Week 17.  Most of us shoot for good players on good offenses.  Most of those teams are not waiting for week 17 to clinch playoff spots.  Last year I had the threat of almost all of my RB's and WR's sitting for the championship game.  That's not a reflection of the team that got you there, when you're forced into competing for a title with a bunch of 3rd and 4th string players.  I think you should have the opportunity to contend for the championship with the team that got you to the playoffs, not a bunch of hail mary week 17 free agent waiver wire pickups.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on June 15, 2007, 11:45 AM
Then draft smarter :-*

As I said, I ran into previously in another league.  I was second overall, only losing once to the guy who beat me by 1 point in the regular season.  I had tons of guys sitting and lost the first round.  Go figure.  It's part of the game and we have to deal with it.  How we deal with it is what's being voted on.  If other guys are more comfortable with the regular setting for playoffs, we'll have to live with that. 

I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out another side by playing devil's advocate.  I could care less which way it goes, other than maybe pissing you off for the sheer entertainment value ;)  By the time those weeks roll around I'm already bored with football and paying attention to hockey.  I am Canadian, after all.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 15, 2007, 11:52 AM
Then draft smarter :-*

Hey, I won.  So obviously it wasn't that big of a problem.  I'm just saying, it should be the team that got you there.

Isn't the default 14 to 16 anyhow?  I know it is when you sign up for a public Yahoo league.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on June 15, 2007, 12:05 PM
I dunno what the default is, I was given the option of using last year's JD settings and did so. 

And you wouldn't have won if I hadn't gone to Hawaii.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 15, 2007, 12:24 PM

And you wouldn't have won if I hadn't gone to Hawaii.

(http://www.vroomvroomvroom.com/content/files/images/photos/hawaii%20girl.jpg)(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/don_banks/12/10/snap.judgments1/p1.drew.usp.jpg)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2007, 02:48 PM
I'm going to vote 1-14 for the season.

a)  Because I won a championship that way
b)  Because it means one more week of fantasy football to enjoy

But either scenario is fine with me.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 15, 2007, 03:20 PM
I'm going to vote 1-14 for the season.

a)  Because I won a championship that way


You also lost that way.

Badly.

Although I guess it didn't have much to do with the playoffs last season.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2007, 05:13 PM
Yeah.  It's truly pathetic that I just can't win every single sport every single year like you, your highness.



Don't get all pissy on us just because I didn't vote your way.  The season's a long ways off.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 15, 2007, 05:48 PM
Yeah.  It's truly pathetic that I just can't win every single sport every single year like you, your highness.


That's gonna cost you a win in our first head to head meeting.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on August 5, 2007, 06:19 PM
Need one more team to cap it at 10. 

Three weeks-ish to the draft, any comments on points need to be filed and changes made prior, otherwise they are left as set for the season. Majority vote to make changes please.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: jjks on August 5, 2007, 07:32 PM
Need one more team to cap it at 10. 

You didn't think you could have the league without me did you?  >:(

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 8, 2007, 07:59 PM
The league settings say it is capped at 12 teams.  The girlfriend's dad wants to play in our league and I'd love to include him.

Any objection to him signing up?

We still have one slot available - and if you guys intended it to be a 10 team league, would anyone object to adding 2 more teams?


Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 8, 2007, 08:09 PM
The league settings say it is capped at 12 teams.  The girlfriend's dad wants to play in our league and I'd love to include him.

Any objection to him signing up?

We still have one slot available - and if you guys intended it to be a 10 team league, would anyone object to adding 2 more teams?




If we intend to have a 3 round playoff tournament with no byes, I think we're going to need 12 teams, unless we'd have a 10 team league where all but 2 teams makes the playoffs.  That makes the regular season kinda insignificant.

With 12 teams, 4 teams wouldn't make the playoffs and you'd really have to fight in the regular season.

I say make it 12, and bring Pops in.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 9, 2007, 04:16 PM
He's signed up.

Anyone have anyone else in mind?  I'll start asking around if we don't...

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on August 9, 2007, 04:55 PM
It does need to be an even number to avoid bye weeks, obviously, so find a 12th.  I've no problem with the dad being in there, all the more joy in defeating your family overall.  Imagine the shame in losing to a Canadian.   :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 9, 2007, 05:08 PM
Alright - I'm going to throw a thread up in Watto's just to advertise the last spot.

Did Jamie get signed up already?  I can't go to the site from work...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 11, 2007, 11:59 AM
Looks like we've got our 12th.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 11, 2007, 07:45 PM
Looks like we've got our 12th.

Ohmigod it's "Virex/Bill Cosby/Ralph Malph/Sonic Death."

 :P
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt on August 11, 2007, 08:42 PM
Ohmigod it's "Virex/Bill Cosby/Ralph Malph/Sonic Death."

 :P

Ohmigod I signed up for no other reason than to **** with your **** as much as possible.

 :P
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 11, 2007, 09:06 PM
Ohmigod it's "Virex/Bill Cosby/Ralph Malph/Sonic Death."

 :P

Ohmigod I signed up for no other reason than to **** with your **** as much as possible.

 :P

Defending champ, baby.  Come get some!

 :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 11, 2007, 09:33 PM
This is gonna be the best season ever. 

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt on August 11, 2007, 10:08 PM
Defending champ, baby.  Come get some!

 :)

That's the thing:  I don't give a **** if I win the whole thing, or finish in the cellar.  I don't know a goddamn thing about fantasy football.  But if I can do anything at all to **** with your season, that's good enough for me.

 :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 11, 2007, 11:04 PM
Defending champ, baby.  Come get some!

 :)

That's the thing:  I don't give a **** if I win the whole thing, or finish in the cellar.  I don't know a goddamn thing about fantasy football.  But if I can do anything at all to **** with your season, that's good enough for me.

 :)

You're insane.  Or just a really huge loser.  It's hard to distinguish in your case.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt on August 12, 2007, 12:02 AM
You're insane.  Or just a really huge loser.  It's hard to distinguish in your case.

I'm all that, "Dressel."  I'm a really huge insane loser.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on August 12, 2007, 02:39 AM
I'm so happy to be commissioner.  No, really.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt Carroll on August 13, 2007, 09:44 PM
Ah, love this time of year....  :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on August 13, 2007, 09:54 PM
All the fantasy football magazines around me have disappeared off the shelves :o
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on August 15, 2007, 11:28 PM
13 days folks.  Look at the settings.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Oboewan on August 17, 2007, 11:49 AM
Just curious if there might be room for one more without creating a bye.
If so, I'd love to sign on!

Jeff
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt on August 17, 2007, 01:40 PM
Just curious if there might be room for one more without creating a bye.
If so, I'd love to sign on!

Jeff

I just deleted my team, so you can have my spot.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 17, 2007, 04:45 PM

I just deleted my team, so you can have my spot.

Matt, you're okay.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 17, 2007, 05:30 PM
..and I was considering taking it
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Oboewan on August 20, 2007, 10:24 AM
..and I was considering taking it

Go for it Sloth... I was just idling with the idea.. I'm already in 3 other leagues....

Jeff
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 20, 2007, 12:32 PM
..and I was considering taking it

Bring it!!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 21, 2007, 12:23 AM
Everyone remember to sign up for Pick 'Em, Salary Cap, and Survival leagues too:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=15841.0
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on August 28, 2007, 10:13 AM
Draft reminder: tomorrow!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 29, 2007, 04:04 PM
Is that like, today?   ???
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on August 29, 2007, 04:36 PM
Ayup, in about 5 hours (a little less) from this posting. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 29, 2007, 06:08 PM
Let's see if I can pull LT for a 3rd consecutive year.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 29, 2007, 06:36 PM
Let's see if I can pull LT for a 3rd consecutive year.

I managed to draft him in the RS league I'm playing in - thankfully, since it's the one that is for money.  You'll need the first pick to have a shot at him this year.



Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: jjks on August 29, 2007, 08:55 PM
Brent - I just got a call that we're having server issues at work, so I have to go look into it. I'm hoping to find a way around our firewall that blocks yahoo sports, but if I don't set my team to autodraft. ******* IBM decides to come in and do maintenance tonight of all nights  >:(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on August 29, 2007, 11:27 PM
Jamie, next time you have to get around the firewall try http://www.stupidcensorship.com.

If that site is blocked, search for Stupid Censorship.com on Google - then when you find it, click the word 'cached' next to the search result - this brings up a google cached version of it that most likely won't be blocked by your firewall.

But you're the expert - so if this is nothing new or you've already tried it and it doesn't work, forget I said anything.

In any event, that's the site I use to get to Yahoo by proxy if I need to make a roster move since it's blocked at work.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Brian on August 30, 2007, 08:32 AM
Sorry I missed the draft last night guys - had baby stuff going on and I didn't make it here in time.  I hope it didn't cause long waits for everyone - now I better go check out who I ended up with :).
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 30, 2007, 09:22 AM
Sorry I missed the draft last night guys - had baby stuff going on and I didn't make it here in time.  I hope it didn't cause long waits for everyone - now I better go check out who I ended up with :).

Damn I thought everyone was there.  Actually when someone's not there, their pick is made in 5 seconds time.  So it actually sped things up.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Brian on August 30, 2007, 09:34 AM
Well, I had planned to be there, but it just didn't work out that way.  It wasn't because of a bad start time or anything, just baby stuff that comes up :P.  I'm glad that it didn't delay the draft much though, that's good to hear.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on August 30, 2007, 10:19 AM
I think you'll like your team Brian.  I actually thought you were there. ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Brian on August 30, 2007, 10:45 AM
I'll probably be better off that I wasn't there :P.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 16, 2007, 07:47 PM
Week 2:

(0-1) Hawaiian Curse 41.88 (Westbrook, Rivers)
(1-0) Iron Fist of Dressel 69.09 (Gates)


(1-0) Solo's Rebels 63.48 (S. Moss)
(1-0) Springfield Isotopes 27.99 (Portis, Tomlinson, Watson)


(0-1) The Cranes 57.59 (Chargers D)
(0-1) Raging Wookiees 53.40 (Kaeding)


(1-0) Bushleaguers 50.92 (Brady, R. Brown, Betts)
(1-0) Ice Cream Maker Guys 62.59 (LJ Smith)


(0-1) The Cornballers 79.99
(1-0) Los Zodos 48.00 (R. Moss)


(0-1) SGC Airmen 57.75 (Gostkowski, Cooley)
(0-1) GoldenGirls 47.88 (McNabb)


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Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 18, 2007, 06:07 PM
I was just looking at the standings and wondering who Solo's Rebels is?  And Cornballers too, is that Chuckles?

1. Iron Fist of Dressel - me
2. Ice Cream Maker Guys - Scott
3. Solo's Rebels - ?  (Oboewan?  Slothus?)
4. The Cornballers - Chuckles?
5. The Cranes - Rob's girl's dad
6. Los Zodos - Rob
7. Springfield Isotopes - Matt Carroll
8. Bushleaguers - Jamie
9. SGC Airmen - Ryan
10. Hawaiian Curse - Bug
11. Raging Wookiees - Brian
12. GoldenGirls - Rob's girl
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on September 18, 2007, 09:07 PM
Cornballers is chuckles.  I think Solo's Rebels is Oboewan
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on September 18, 2007, 11:42 PM
Really enjoying F. Football this year.  Week 2, 321 combined yards and zero TDs for my starting running backs.  Friggin' sweet.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 18, 2007, 11:46 PM
Really enjoying F. Football this year.  Week 2, 321 combined yards and zero TDs for my starting running backs.  Friggin' sweet.

I'm really not (and wasn't) expecting the Raiders and Eagles to be offensive juggernauts this year.  The Raiders suck as bad as I thought, but the Eagles are definitely doing even worse than I thought they would.  They did nothing to replace Donte' Stallworth as a deep threat (Kevin Curtis ain't gonna cut it), and Westbrook has never been a TD machine (despite big yards) even when they had deep threats like TO and Stallworth.

LaMont Jordan, don't hold your breath man.

I was most terrified of your wideouts going in, and their 3 TDs turned out to be the only reason why our game was moderately close.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on September 18, 2007, 11:59 PM
Oh I'm not relying on Jordan, rest assured.  I just looked at what he's doing and what's happening in New England and figured him to be a better play than Maroney, who could be my Jordan of this year ::)  At least I have Morris as well. 

I'm not sure if I'll win until bye weeks roll around, but weeks 4-10 should be just fine for me. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2007, 01:18 AM
Oh I'm not relying on Jordan, rest assured.  I just looked at what he's doing and what's happening in New England and figured him to be a better play than Maroney, who could be my Jordan of this year ::)  At least I have Morris as well. 

I'm not sure if I'll win until bye weeks roll around, but weeks 4-10 should be just fine for me. 

I completely forgot about Maroney because I didn't have to face him in Week 2.  He's solid, and you should trade him to me immediately.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on September 24, 2007, 10:22 AM
Go New Orleans D...I hope LenDale isn't much of a factor, although I squeaked a win last week, its probably not going to go my way two weeks in a row.  I just wish TO got in the end zone last night
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 24, 2007, 10:25 AM
Go New Orleans D...I hope LenDale isn't much of a factor, although I squeaked a win last week, its probably not going to go my way two weeks in a row.  I just wish TO got in the end zone last night

I'm betting LenDale gets in tonight, and we both lose our undefeated status.  I got my ass totally kicked, for one.

Steven Jackson has been a total no-show, I thought I put a bunch of nice players around him, but S-Jax hasn't done **** nothing so far this year.  Of course, through 3 weeks, LJ and LT also have been disappointing.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt Carroll on September 24, 2007, 07:23 PM
I'll reserve any mention of this week's matchup until I see a final score tonight. Young could go off tonight, you never know.

Here's more Steven Jackson goodness for ya' Dressel: Jackson has partial groin tear (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AqZeG0_JT42QgsWKd6h30I1DubYF?slug=ap-rams-jacksonout&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Go New Orleans D...I hope LenDale isn't much of a factor, although I squeaked a win last week, its probably not going to go my way two weeks in a row.  I just wish TO got in the end zone last night

I'm betting LenDale gets in tonight, and we both lose our undefeated status.  I got my ass totally kicked, for one.

Steven Jackson has been a total no-show, I thought I put a bunch of nice players around him, but S-Jax hasn't done **** nothing so far this year.  Of course, through 3 weeks, LJ and LT also have been disappointing.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 24, 2007, 08:11 PM
I'll reserve any mention of this week's matchup until I see a final score tonight. Young could go off tonight, you never know.

Here's more Steven Jackson goodness for ya' Dressel: Jackson has partial groin tear (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AqZeG0_JT42QgsWKd6h30I1DubYF?slug=ap-rams-jacksonout&prov=ap&type=lgns)


Yeah, looks like he might sit a week or so, big loss, he's been my worst player this year.  Plus I drafted Brian Leonard in handcuff fashion anyhow.  Watch, Leonard will be better in Week 4 than Jackson was in any of the first 3 weeks.

I have to admit that my team doesn't look as intimidating with Brian Leonard filling in for S-Jax (or Buckhalter if Westbrook has to sit), but in reality I had the high scoring team through the first 2 weeks with zero contribution from my 1st round pick.

As for tonight, Deuce will have to suck and Vince Young will have to throw for 4+ touchdowns and maybe rush in for 1 or 2.  You win this round.

 :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt Carroll on September 25, 2007, 08:51 AM

As for tonight, Deuce will have to suck and Vince Young will have to throw for 4+ touchdowns and maybe rush in for 1 or 2.  You win this round.

 :)

Well, at least I got that round while I could (and you almost made it all the way back). Now it appears there will be more shuffling on my team and I'll have to use a WR in my flex spot   >:(
Deuce out with torn ACL, according to reports (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3035134)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 25, 2007, 09:25 AM

I'm betting LenDale gets in tonight, and we both lose our undefeated status. 


Check, check.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:40 AM
Well, at least I got that round while I could (and you almost made it all the way back). Now it appears there will be more shuffling on my team and I'll have to use a WR in my flex spot   >:(
Deuce out with torn ACL, according to reports (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3035134)

Makes my Reggie Bush pick a little more worthwhile at least.


Sorry for your loss though.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 25, 2007, 01:00 PM

Sorry for your loss though.

Oh, clearly.

 ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on September 25, 2007, 11:29 PM
I know as well as anyone what it's like to have a run of bad fantasy football luck...  Hell, I'm already without Brandon Jacobs until  who knows when (maybe you know when, you follow the Giants...).
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2007, 02:41 AM
I know as well as anyone what it's like to have a run of bad fantasy football luck...  Hell, I'm already without Brandon Jacobs until  who knows when (maybe you know when, you follow the Giants...).

He might play this Sunday (apparently he almost did last week).  If not, he should play Week 5.

The question is...did Derrick Ward take Tiki's place, with Jacobs factoring in only at the goal line now?  We'll see.

 ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on September 26, 2007, 11:44 AM
Yep...  I really  need him back this week though with Bush on a bye.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 1, 2007, 08:27 PM
What a freaking stellar week:

LaMont Jordan: back injury so Culpepper gets his TDs.

Brian Westbrook: dnp.

Laurence Maroney: dnp. 

Yay.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 1, 2007, 09:42 PM
I'm with you Brent...  Reggie Bush on a bye, Brandon Jacobs out since the first quarter of week one, and Cadillac Williams now lost for the year during the first quarter of this week's game.

84 points without my first 3 draft picks is great and all, but I'd really really really like to get that situation straightened out asap.




Speaking of which, anyone have too many RB's and an interest in Tony Gonzalez?

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 2, 2007, 05:32 AM
I'm with you Brent...  Reggie Bush on a bye, Brandon Jacobs out since the first quarter of week one, and Cadillac Williams now lost for the year during the first quarter of this week's game.

84 points without my first 3 draft picks is great and all, but I'd really really really like to get that situation straightened out asap.



It doesn't seem like there is much to straighten out really - Bush and Jacobs are back and playing Sunday.  I think.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 2, 2007, 10:33 AM
As long as Jacobs stays healthy and doesn't lose too much work to Ward, that's great - but I have a bad feeling that his knee won't be right until next year and that Ward will take carries away from him.

I'm also worried that Reggie Bush isn't going to do very much and might get hurt once he starts getting 20-25 carries a game.

Regardless, I used my first three picks on RB's because I'd hoped to have 3 solid RB's... thankfully Romo and Moss have been carrying the load in the meantime.
 

We shall see.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 2, 2007, 11:08 AM
As long as Jacobs stays healthy and doesn't lose too much work to Ward, that's great - but I have a bad feeling that his knee won't be right until next year and that Ward will take carries away from him.

I'm also worried that Reggie Bush isn't going to do very much and might get hurt once he starts getting 20-25 carries a game.

Regardless, I used my first three picks on RB's because I'd hoped to have 3 solid RB's... thankfully Romo and Moss have been carrying the load in the meantime.
 

We shall see.

I'll trade you Steven Jackson, Jamal Lewis, and Warrick Dunn for Jacobs and Bush.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Ryan on October 8, 2007, 07:38 AM
Willie Parker really needs to find the endzone and stop letting Davenport steal his TD's...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 8, 2007, 07:29 PM
Willie Parker really needs to find the endzone and stop letting Davenport steal his TD's...

True, but tonight Marion Barber III needs to find the endzone!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 8, 2007, 09:53 PM
Holy ****, Tony Romo is trying to lose this game for me.   :-[


And he went to Hawaii last year too.  Coincidence?  I think not.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt Carroll on October 8, 2007, 11:17 PM
Holy ****, Tony Romo is trying to lose this game for me.   :-[


And he went to Hawaii last year too.  Coincidence?  I think not.

Damn, a fumble now. He really is trying to get a negative score for you Rob.

That's fine with me, as long as TO doesn't get involved here in the last 10 minutes....
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 8, 2007, 11:26 PM
And a 5th INT.  I think my lead is .18 after that gets factored in.

I'm ******.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 9, 2007, 12:19 AM
I assume you won?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 9, 2007, 01:10 AM
Yeah, Romo pulling his head out of his ass long enough to put together a freakish comeback win put enough points on the board to hang on.  1st place is mine for at least one more week...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on October 16, 2007, 12:00 AM
Whew, I thought the Giants receivers were about to send me down to an absolutely rediculous defeat, luckily, that did not happen :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 16, 2007, 07:57 AM
Whew, I thought the Giants receivers were about to send me down to an absolutely rediculous defeat, luckily, that did not happen :)

And I'm most likely dead next week too, Rob has got me completely licked on paper, now he's just got to get average production from each of his players.  With Gates and S-Jax out, I barely have a chance.  I've got no QB most likely, who knows if Vince Young is even going to play.  Even if he does, he's not the same guy who kicked ass in the 2nd half of last year's season. 

If I'm going to make the playoffs, it's going to be a 2nd half of the season effort if I can get my first rounder back.  Of course, it doesn't help that the Rams are 0-6.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on October 16, 2007, 08:27 AM
Welcome to my year last year...sucks not having a first round pick...no?  And when Jackson does come back you have to hope he plays at 100% and not at 20% like Alexander did
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2007, 10:22 AM
And I'm most likely dead next week too, Rob has got me completely licked on paper, now he's just got to get average production from each of his players.

I hope so, you've gotten the better of me 3 or 4 straight games now after my having won 3 or 4 in a row.

It's my turn I hope.

If I can just get reasonable production out of my RB's I'll be okay - but they haven't been good for much so far this year.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2007, 11:11 AM
And Damn you Scott on Bennett... I heard it on the radio this morning and ran straight in to try to pick him up...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 16, 2007, 02:03 PM
And Damn you Scott on Bennett... I heard it on the radio this morning and ran straight in to try to pick him up...

Meh, I thought about it and went for Droughns instead.  My logic is that the Bucs don't exactly have a ferocious running attack, Bennett likely won't be an exception.  Ernest Graham carried the whole rushing load against the Titans last week, for a whopping 13 carries.  So Bennett, a career backup, is gonna come in and what start splitting with Graham and rushing for 6-8 carries per game?

By going with Droughns, I now have the whole Giants backfield combined with Ward if Jacobs ankle turns into anything serious.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2007, 03:14 PM
Yeah but the Titans are 3rd in the league against the rush - it's no surprise that the Bucs couldn't run the ball on them.

And before Cadillac went out, the Bucs had a 3 game stretch where they were putting up around 160 or so yards per game.  Against the Colts they got behind real quick, lost Pittman, and had to go straight to the air to try to keep up.

They're a better running team than what we saw this week and last.  And Bennett is fast as hell - and is probably going to see some work.

Did Droughns get traded today?  I figured the Giants were just using him last night to up his value at the trade deadline.  Surely he won't be worth much behind Ward and Jacobs.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on October 16, 2007, 03:44 PM
Bennett is not a career backup...the last few years yeah but he was pretty decent for 2 years with the Vikes until he got hurt.  I'd also rather have a starter than one head of a 3 headed monster...especially with Jacobs there who can do decent at the goalline.

He's not going to start for me anyway, just a good one week plug in when needed
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 16, 2007, 05:00 PM
Bennett is not a career backup...the last few years yeah but he was pretty decent for 2 years with the Vikes until he got hurt.  I'd also rather have a starter than one head of a 3 headed monster...especially with Jacobs there who can do decent at the goalline.

He's not going to start for me anyway, just a good one week plug in when needed

As the owner of Maroney/Morris, I'll vouch for the value of not owning a committee.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 16, 2007, 05:16 PM


Did Droughns get traded today?  I figured the Giants were just using him last night to up his value at the trade deadline.  Surely he won't be worth much behind Ward and Jacobs.



No, but Jacobs sprained his ankle, and Droughns had the most carries last night.

I don't want to see Jacobs go down (Giants fan here, yay 4-2) but if he does I have the entire backfield on my roster.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 16, 2007, 05:19 PM
Bennett is not a career backup...the last few years yeah but he was pretty decent for 2 years with the Vikes until he got hurt. 

2002 was the last year he was a starter.  He's 5 years removed.  That's an eternity in the NFL.


I'd also rather have a starter than one head of a 3 headed monster...

Bennett/Graham are expected to be 50-50.


...especially with Jacobs there who can do decent at the goalline.

Look again at who's gotten the goal line.  Droughns.  Jacobs hasn't been used there.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 22, 2007, 02:11 PM
Ronnie Brown done for the year (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhvsQgM_Ayqzsjo39XF9ZkH.uLYF?slug=txdolphinsbrown&prov=st&type=lgns)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 23, 2007, 12:17 AM
Look again at who's gotten the goal line.  Droughns.  Jacobs hasn't been used there.

Week 7 Touchdowns:

Jacobs - 1
Droughns - 0


Week 7 Fantasy Football Wins

Zod - 1
Dressel - 0



Champion-ship!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Jeff on October 23, 2007, 12:22 AM
Can I ask who in your league has Tom Brady?  ???

As luck would have it, I played against the guy who has Brady in my home league this week - my team was smoked by 36 points thanks to him and his friggin' 6 TDs. :'(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 23, 2007, 12:25 AM
Jamie has Brady - and he managed to lose this week by a few points to the team currently occupying second.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 23, 2007, 12:36 AM

Champion-ship!

We'll see.  I managed to win (I think, maybe) by a few points meaning I'm not dead just yet.  I've lost three games by starting the wrong guys at the wrong time (up/down Rivers syndrome) so if I ever figure that aspect out, it could get scary. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 23, 2007, 12:39 AM
My big problem will be that around week 14-15 Romo and Moss will probably be sitting.

It'll probably do me in.   :'(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 23, 2007, 12:49 AM
Uh-huh.  Dressel brought that up about the end of season and moving playoffs earlier by a week.  No one else commented.  None of my guys are really doing that well, team wise, aside from Welker of course. 

A couple of years back I had a great team: LT, Rudi and Chad Johnson and I just smoked through the regular fantasy season.  I lost the first round of the playoffs.  Ouch.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Ryan on October 23, 2007, 01:26 AM

Champion-ship!

We'll see.  I managed to win (I think, maybe) by a few points meaning I'm not dead just yet.  I've lost three games by starting the wrong guys at the wrong time (up/down Rivers syndrome) so if I ever figure that aspect out, it could get scary. 

You got the W. My RBs laid a big fat egg and Mr Garrard only needed six points tonight but with the injury that didn't happen.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 23, 2007, 01:32 AM
Thanks for confirming it, I'll sleep better.  I almost gave it away.  I had Welker (18 points) in there until about 5 minutes before game time, then swapped Maroney back in to get his awesome one point :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 23, 2007, 02:34 AM

Week 7 Touchdowns:

Jacobs - 1
Droughns - 0


Week 7 Fantasy Football Wins

Zod - 1
Dressel - 0



Champion-ship!

Idiot.

Congrats though.  That wasn't really my team, but your girlfriend will see my real team next week.

 :)


Uh-huh.  Dressel brought that up about the end of season and moving playoffs earlier by a week.  No one else commented.  None of my guys are really doing that well, team wise, aside from Welker of course. 


Yeah I actually brought it up five times if you go back to the first few pages of this thread.  I pushed hard for the change, nobody cared.  In fact, ironically the only person that really came out in opposition against my idea for a Weeks 1 to 13 regular season was Rob:


I'm going to vote 1-14 for the season.

a)  Because I won a championship that way
b)  Because it means one more week of fantasy football to enjoy

But either scenario is fine with me.

And somehow with 2 people "voting", and a 1-1 tie, I lost the vote and we got Playoffs in Week 17.  I guess Bug broke the 1-1 tie.

Anyhow, seems like Rob will be #1 ranked with guys like Romo and Moss sitting late in the playoffs, so it'll all work out in the end.

I haven't even looked at basketball yet, I better do it tomorrow.

 :D

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 23, 2007, 10:24 AM
Just to clarify, I didn't technically break the tie, though that would have been my vote, to leave it as is.  But the general apathy of the group I took to mean they didn't care about it being changed, so I left it as we've always played it out.  We'll see how it goes and maybe discuss it for next year this year when it's fresh in people's minds instead. 

Basketball?  I'd best go buy a magazine.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Jeff on October 23, 2007, 10:47 AM
Jamie has Brady - and he managed to lose this week

How do you have a QB that throws 6 TD passes and still lose?  ???

Poor Jamie...  :'(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 23, 2007, 03:10 PM
We'll see Matt... the year I won I think TO and Manning were sitting that week too.

Stranger things have happened... we're all an injury or two away from instant mediocrity anyway.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 23, 2007, 03:25 PM
... we're all an injury or two away from instant mediocrity anyway.

Ain't that the truth. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Ryan on October 23, 2007, 03:57 PM
... we're all an injury or two away from instant mediocrity anyway.

In my other league I've lost Andre Johnson, Javon Walker, Jake Delhomme, Matt Leinhart, Rudi Johnson, and Calvin Johnson. I'm in last place in that league with ZERO chance of catching up anytime soon.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 23, 2007, 04:01 PM
Yeah - I've already lost Cadillac Williams in this league, I'm still short Steven Jackson in another...  it sucks.  Overall, my teams have been pretty fortunate so far though.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 23, 2007, 04:10 PM
I was without Westbrook for a couple.  Maroney missed three and might as well have missed four.  Jordan missed a pair.  Morris is out right now.  And I'm better off than most.  I keep thinking I have too many running backs and then I watch them miss games.  Yeesh. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 23, 2007, 04:54 PM
I keep thinking I have too many running backs... 

No such concept exists!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 23, 2007, 05:13 PM
I took RB's with my first three picks... there was a point where Bush was on bye, Williams and Jacobs were hurt.  I was wishing I had a few more.  I'm surprised I was able to get DeShaun Foster this week, even if he is splitting carries.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 23, 2007, 05:23 PM
I took RB's with my first three picks... there was a point where Bush was on bye, Williams and Jacobs were hurt.  I was wishing I had a few more.  I'm surprised I was able to get DeShaun Foster this week, even if he is splitting carries.

I was thinking about getting him, but I was able to get Jesse Chatman, and I saw Kenton Keith in an equal time share with Addai.  I couldn't come up with anyone to drop for Foster.

The 8 RB's on my roster I have there for very specific reasons and didn't see Foster as better than any of them.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 28, 2007, 03:08 PM
Okay this isn't my season.

I'll be lucky to win this game today, and Steven Jackson is injured again with a back injury in the 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 29, 2007, 01:23 AM
Quick question -

How is Solo's Rebels dropping players that already played today (Mare, Scaife), but on gameday when I go to drop a player it says "roster is nolonger editable today for players who have already played."

Anyone know?  Commish?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on October 29, 2007, 01:30 AM
You're asking the wrong guy :-\  I'm in the same boat as you, I can't do anything with my players until Monday/Tuesday.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Jeff on October 29, 2007, 01:40 AM
I know I am not in your league, but I am in a Yahoo league...

I believe that you are allowed to drop bench players at any time during a week, even if the games have already been started/played.  I don't think you can add/drop any of your starters until Monday/Tuesday though...  or something like that.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 29, 2007, 02:17 AM
You're asking the wrong guy :-\  I'm in the same boat as you, I can't do anything with my players until Monday/Tuesday.

Yeah but both Rob and Solo's Rebels did it today.  I don't get it.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 29, 2007, 11:49 AM
I dropped Maurice Stovall - who I did not start.

If I'd have tried to drop Jeff Garcia, who played for my team, it would have blocked me.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 30, 2007, 12:39 AM
Down by 9 points with Greg Jennings and Jason Elam left to go... Pack / Broncos heading to OT.

First play from scrimmage - 83 yard BOMB to Jennings.

Golden Girls stun Dressel!

Pack win.

And even with that huge last minute bomb by Favre, and Deshawn Wynn being out for the entier game, I manage to hang onto a win by 1.5 or so.


All is right in the world.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 30, 2007, 12:41 AM
Down by 9 points with Greg Jennings and Jason Elam left to go... Pack / Broncos heading to OT.

First play from scrimmage - 83 yard BOMB to Jennings.

Golden Girls stun Dressel!

Pack win.

And even with that huge last minute bomb by Favre, and Deshawn Wynn being out for the entier game, I manage to hang onto a win by 1.5 or so.


All is right in the world.

I never get the break in the close game.

That was just unbelievable.

The worst part is, I got out of the regulation time with the "W".  This **** happened in OT.  Could have gone to Driver, or Jones, or Lee, or whoever the running back of the minute was.  But it had to go to Jennings.  And the freaking coin toss put the ball in Favre's hands.

Ugh.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 30, 2007, 12:55 AM
Pretty damn incredible - that's for sure.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 30, 2007, 10:27 AM
Pretty damn incredible - that's for sure.



I've suffered a long history of actually viewing these types of outrages on Monday Night Football, to be sure.  I'm groggy, and haven't had any coffee yet, but just off the top of my head:

1.  I watched Shaun Alexander try 3 times from the goal line to get in, he got stuffed a couple times then on the 3rd he got in but fumbled the ball as he crossed the TD line.  No score, I lost.

2.  I needed a few more passing yards from McNabb who suddenly got injured, Jeff Garcia came in to replace him and I lost by fractions.

3.  I needed a couple more receiving yards from Marques Colston who caught a pass and was tackled 1 yard shy of tying the game for me, 2 yards shy of winning.

4.  OT, bomb to Jennings last night.

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/tools/med/2007/10/ipt/1193718481.jpg)

I swear it seems like I never get the break in the close game.  My luck factor seems to be close to zero there.  The one instance where I can remember winning a close game, and the most important I guess, was Round 2 in the playoffs last year when I got Jamie by 1/2 point.  Had I lost that one, it would have been the biggest dagger of them all, so at this point I'll move on to Week 9 and try to scratch out an 8th seeded playoff spot at least.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on October 30, 2007, 11:57 AM
This game is 2/3rds luck.

My season last year was filled with weird stuff... 5th in scoring, 11th in win/loss.  There were several weeks where I would have beaten 8 or 9 teams in the league, but was playing one of the only 2 or 3 who outscored me... 

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 31, 2007, 11:49 PM
Anyone care to explain the veto of a trade that Rob's Girl's Dad proposed to me out of the blue, that I accepted?

I want to know who vetoed this and why.

Rob's Girl's Dad formulated this trade without any influence from me, to unload his WR with multiple injuries and a concussion for a running back of equal rank according to our scoring settings

I logged into Yahoo Monday, saw the trade, and accepted it.  No discussion of any kind.

That's a fair trade, yet 4 of you vetoed it.  I have let every trade go through so far, even the ones that I did not like.  I think whoever did this owes us some kind of explanation.  And there's no Famine copouts this time.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: JediJman on November 1, 2007, 12:24 AM
What was the trade offer?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2007, 12:56 AM
What was the trade offer?

The Cranes (Patrick) offered me Laveranues Coles for Derrick Ward and I accepted it.

They have a Yahoo! rank that's about equal and it should not have been vetoed.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on November 1, 2007, 01:07 AM
I can comfortably say not I. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2007, 03:05 AM
The Cranes (Patrick) offered me Laveranues Coles for Derrick Ward and I accepted it.

They have a Yahoo! rank that's about equal and it should not have been vetoed.


He confused Derrick Ward for Brandon Jacobs and did not want to trade Coles for an injured back-up.  He asked me what he might be able to do to correct this mistake.

Since it was an accident, he just voted against the trade, as did I, and it was enough to cancel it.  That seemed easier than sending emails off to the commish asking him if there was anything he could do.

In any event, none of that was done to pick a fight or make anyone mad - I hope it's not going to create an incident.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2007, 06:00 AM

He confused Derrick Ward for Brandon Jacobs and did not want to trade Coles for an injured back-up.  He asked me what he might be able to do to correct this mistake.


He "confused Ward for Brandon Jacobs"?

Okay so let me get this straight, what he really did then was not offer me a banged up, calf-strained concussed 6th round WR in Coles for a backup RB of equal rank in Ward; instead he attempted to give me Coles for a popular 1st round RB in Brandon Jacobs?

He must think we're a league full of morons to try to offer Laveranues Coles for a premier top 12 draft pick.

And here I was thinking that he simply had a change of heart when he heard that Coles might actually play this week after the concussion.  Probably because that's what most likely happened.



In any event, none of that was done to pick a fight or make anyone mad - I hope it's not going to create an incident.


It's not going to create an incident.  But I think you might post an inquiry as well if you were about go drop Ward that morning as I was, saw a trade you wanted, accepted it, and in the meantime the WR in Brandon Stokley that you were going to drop Ward for was taken via free agency.

Coles (or Stokley) was gonna be my flex play this week and now I'm double screwed.

All because someone thought they were ripping me off with a banged up 6th round wideout, for my elite top 12 fantasy pick.

Mmmmmkay then.  Moving right along I guess.





Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: JediJman on November 1, 2007, 08:05 AM
I don't know what your scoring is, but Coles has actually had a pretty good year, hasn't he?  In my Sportsline league, he is the #7 WR with 58 points.  Jacobs is the #30 RB with just 28 points, though he was injured for several games.  RB's are a little more scarce and it sounds like Pnnington is about to be benched, so I'm not sure that I would have made this trade either, but I don't think he was trying to rip you off.  :-\  Anyone on the free market that you could get for a week?  How about J. Jones from the Packers or R. Brown from Philly?  I just added those guys in other leagues to handle byes, as well as R. White from Atlanta.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2007, 11:00 AM
"I don't know what your scoring is, but Coles has actually had a pretty good year, hasn't he? "

Yes, he has - nearly 500 yards and 6 TD's to this point, as compared to 600 yards and 3 TD's for Ward.  On paper it looks like a pretty even trade - until you remember that Ward is now a back-up and Coles is still a #1 wideout.

"All because someone thought they were ripping me off with a banged up 6th round wideout, for my elite top 12 fantasy pick"

Likewise, you probably thought you were ripping him off with a undrafted backup for his stud receiver who banged-up or not, is playing next week and says he's fine.  No one would accuse you of doing anything wrong accepting a trade that was offered or inquiring about what happened for it to be dead, but it's not like you probably saw that and thought to yourself that it was a fair deal that would benefit both parties.  Patrick has started Coles at his flex spot for the last 5 straight weeks - what would he have done with Ward?

In any event, like I said - it was just an honest mistake, Patrick didn't mean to make that particular trade, realized the error last evening, and hoped to not lose a solid #1 receiver for a back-up RB because of a dumb error.   There's really nothing else to it.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2007, 01:04 PM
Cool now that he tried to obtain Brandon "Derrick Ward" Jacobs for a concussed, calf-strained 6th round pick Coles, perhaps he'll take a stab at trying to get Larry Johnson or LaDainian Tomlinson for Coles instead.




Likewise, you probably thought you were ripping him off with a undrafted backup for his stud receiver who banged-up or not, is playing next week and says he's fine. 

No that's a load of bull.  Monday when we consumated the trade, and right up until early yesterday, all we knew was that Coles was concussed and we didn't know if he was going to play this week or at all this season:


***Oct 31 Eric Mangini has confirmed that Coles suffered a concussion in Sunday's loss to the Bills, the Daily News reports. Coles didn't practice Wednesday.
Recommendation: We're not sure what to make of the fact that Mangini didn't do his usual vague injury song and dance, but given the way concussions are treated by the league/teams these days, Coles does not seem like a good bet to play Sunday against the Redskins.***


It's only after he found out that Coles wasn't hurt too bad that he wanted to cancel the trade, and you and your girlfriend were in on it with him.

He did not think Derrick Ward was Brandon Jacobs, and nobody believes that.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2007, 01:13 PM
Whatever man - you can try to spin Coles into whatever you want, but he's a solid player and I'd take him in a heartbeat over any receiver on my team not named Moss - and I wouldn't in a million years trade him for Derrick Ward.  Clearly a few other people agreed since at least 2 people other than he and I voted against it.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2007, 01:16 PM
Whatever man - you can try to spin Coles into whatever you want, but he's a solid player and I'd take him in a heartbeat over any receiver on my team not named Moss - and I wouldn't in a million years trade him for Derrick Ward.  Clearly a few other people agreed since at least 2 people other than he and I voted against it.


Yeah right, he had second thoughts when it came out that Coles might play again this year, and he got you and your girlfriend and one other person to help him out of the jam.

Nobody believes that he thought Derrick Ward was really Brandon Jacobs.

That's all I'm gonna say.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2007, 02:00 PM
Yeah right, he had second thoughts when it came out that Coles might play again this year, and he got you and your girlfriend and one other person to help him out of the jam.

Nobody believes that he thought Derrick Ward was really Brandon Jacobs.

That's all I'm gonna say.

If you knew him at all, you'd laugh at how completely off-base your little accusation is.  Her dad is probably the most honest person I've ever met in my entire life.  He's the exact opposite of conniving or malicious, especially when it comes to something as inconsequential as fantasy football.  When he says it was an accident, there is absolutely no question whatsoever that it was an accident.

You, on the other hand, have a well established track record of being an *******.

Get over yourself.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2007, 04:15 PM
Yeah right, he had second thoughts when it came out that Coles might play again this year, and he got you and your girlfriend and one other person to help him out of the jam.

Nobody believes that he thought Derrick Ward was really Brandon Jacobs.

That's all I'm gonna say.

If you knew him at all, you'd laugh at how completely off-base your little accusation is.  Her dad is probably the most honest person I've ever met in my entire life.  He's the exact opposite of conniving or malicious, especially when it comes to something as inconsequential as fantasy football.  When he says it was an accident, there is absolutely no question whatsoever that it was an accident.

You, on the other hand, have a well established track record of being an *******.

Get over yourself.

Well, at least you edited out some of the obscentity.  It's a start.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2007, 04:34 PM
I should have added some bonus obscenities given the way you just went after a guy who you've never met and pretty much accused him of being as manipulative as you are.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2007, 05:21 PM
I should have added some bonus obscenities given the way you just went after a guy who you've never met and pretty much accused him of being as manipulative as you are.

If you're still going to have me believe that he was under the impression that Derrick Ward was Brandon Jacobs, I guess this conversation is over.

How long has he been an NFL fan, 2 weeks?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2007, 06:02 PM
If you're still going to have me believe that he was under the impression that Derrick Ward was Brandon Jacobs, I guess this conversation is over.

How long has he been an NFL fan, 2 weeks?

He's a casual fan at best, and this is his first time playing fantasy football.  There's nothing else I can say and I don't have any more interest in convincing you of his ethics.

If you want to go ahead and assume the worst about everyone, just go ahead - but in this instance I can say without hesitation that you'd be 100% mistaken.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt Carroll on November 2, 2007, 11:17 AM
Is there any way to check to see what updates occured with official stats in the last day? My game with Ryan from last weekend just flip-flopped; I had the W as of yesterday and something got updated overnight, since it now has Ryan winning the game.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 2, 2007, 11:22 AM
I'm not sure exactly where it is, and Yahoo fantasy sports is blocked at work - but there is a 'Stat Corrections' page in there somewhere.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt Carroll on November 2, 2007, 11:48 AM
Thanks Rob, I found it. Apparently, the Giants defense was granted an additional sack on Nov. 1 and a second on Nov. 2, which bumped up Ryan enough to turn the tables. :-\
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 2, 2007, 11:55 AM
That's always a kick to the crotch when that happens.

(Well, not for Ryan...  :-\ )
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Ryan on November 2, 2007, 12:40 PM
Sorry Matt. I'll take it though. :)

I completely forgot to edit my line-ups last week. I lost a championship game by one point on a stat correction last year, so I guess it's karma.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt Carroll on November 2, 2007, 01:05 PM
That's always a kick to the crotch when that happens.

(Well, not for Ryan...  :-\ )

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Sorry Matt. I'll take it though.

I completely forgot to edit my line-ups last week. I lost a championship game by one point on a stat correction last year, so I guess it's karma.

The bigger kick to the crotch is when your opponent forgets to alter his lineup and plays a QB who is out with an injury, a RB on bye and a second RB who didn't play as a game-time decision with an injury and you can't score enough to avoid having routine scoring adjustments impact you in this way.   >:(

If it is karma Ryan, I hope it now works in my favor down the road...  :)

I think it's time to trot out Jim Mora Sr. to discuss my playoff aspirations at this point.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 5, 2007, 11:54 PM
Anyone interested in Dallas Clark?

He and either Ryan Grant or DeShaun Foster could be available as a package deal for a moderately solid RB.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 11, 2007, 09:00 PM
Nevermind... I'm keeping Clark and Grant.

I'd also like to say that the greatest thing that ever happened was finding the Chargers DEF floating around the free agent pool a few weeks ago.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on November 11, 2007, 11:26 PM
No, the greatest thing that happened to you was me drafting Rivers instead of Romo :'(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 11, 2007, 11:47 PM
That was pretty awesome too. 

And Romo is heading for Hawaii later this year too.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 12, 2007, 12:18 AM
That was pretty awesome too. 

And Romo is heading for Hawaii later this year too.

Romo and the other 40 someodd players there will be about the only ones watching.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on November 12, 2007, 12:21 AM
I'd advise against going to Hawaii :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 12, 2007, 12:33 AM
I'd advise against going to Hawaii :-X

Now that you're out of the way, I only need to send Scott and Rob and I'll feel much more comfortable in these leagues of our's.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 12, 2007, 10:18 AM
I had a layover in Tahiti one time - but that's the closest I'll get to Hawaii any time soon.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 12, 2007, 11:30 AM
I had a layover in Tahiti one time - but that's the closest I'll get to Hawaii any time soon.

Hrmmm.  That might prove useful enough.  I don't know what the radius around the epicenter of the curse is.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 12, 2007, 11:52 AM
That' be one massive freakin' curse - Tahiti is like 2500 miles away from Hawaii.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 12, 2007, 12:27 PM
That' be one massive freakin' curse - Tahiti is like 2500 miles away from Hawaii.

Ha ha, yeah.  Actually you're closer to Hawaii just being there in Texas than you were doing your layover in Tahiti.

At any rate, you have the best football team at the halfway point, and you always surge late in basketball.  So anything that'll shake you off my championship pursuits is welcome.

 :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 12, 2007, 02:50 PM
True enough - I'm really really hoping that nothing goes wrong this time through - I feel pretty good about my chances at the moment.  I'm also thrilled that my Win/Loss is proportional to my points scored - unlike last year where I was 5th or 6th in points, 11th in standings.  ::)

Expect another late surge in Basketball this year if Arenas pulls his head out of his ass and Brand comes back in reasonable order.   :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Ryan on November 12, 2007, 09:54 PM
Seeing as how football is not played on a small wooden court I went ahead and split off the last few posts into the Fantasy Basketball thread.

 (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/engel/a030.gif)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 13, 2007, 04:35 PM
Sure is nice to have that playoff berth clinched.   :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 13, 2007, 05:43 PM
Sure is nice to have that playoff berth clinched.   :-*

I'm rooting for taking you on in Round 1. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 13, 2007, 06:27 PM
If you want to sneak in as the 8-seed and get sent home in the first round, that's fine by me.   8)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on November 13, 2007, 06:41 PM
Last seed is mine thanks.  Ima comin' for ya Zodo :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on November 18, 2007, 07:32 PM
(http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/star.jpg)

100 points...good day :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 18, 2007, 09:55 PM
Moss just scored his 4th today too.

Only he did it in the first half.   8)


(Congrats on 100)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on November 18, 2007, 10:25 PM
How's my matchup going?  I'm too cheap for stat-tracker.  If I lose today, y'all can stick a fork in me...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 18, 2007, 10:30 PM
You're down 70.25 to 53.85. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on November 18, 2007, 10:50 PM
Thanks.  I officially retract my statement above regarding the playoffs, I'm thinking I'm done.  I've got my D tomorrow night and one quarter left with Welker and Maroney tonight, but I don't expect that'll be enough. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 19, 2007, 12:08 PM
Jesus H.

I wonder - if Brady continues on his 4-5 TD/game pace, is he the undisputed #1 pick in next year's fantasy draft?

I feel like everything I once held to be true has been turned upside down.

Still can't believe I got beat by Brady like that last night.

****.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Matt Carroll on November 19, 2007, 01:09 PM


I wonder - if Brady continues on his 4-5 TD/game pace, is he the undisputed #1 pick in next year's fantasy draft?


Brady's value next year would have to be tied to what happens to Moss in this offseason. With our scoring system, I'm still not sure I would take him in front of a handful of running backs.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 19, 2007, 05:10 PM
Chances are we're looking at a Patriots Super Bowl victory over the Cowboy or Giants, and Moss will be happy as a pig in slop, and be back next season.  Now that Belichick has discovered this formula, I'm sure if Moss left it'd be some other high profile/tall WR to take his place alongside Welker/Stallworth.

The Patriots have basically abandoned the running game almost completely.  Opponents know Brady's throwing on every down and they can't stop him.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 19, 2007, 05:37 PM
I read a little line this morning that made me laugh:

"We're all playing for second place"

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I mean... did you watch that Patriots game last night? In Buffalo, against a hot Bills team, in front of a crowd that honestly had nothing better to do than spend the whole day drinking... and they rolled them up 56-10.

Resistance is futile. And if you get them into a 4th and 1 at the 7-yard-line when they're ahead 42-10, they're going for it, and you can stand and yell and boo and scream whatever you want at Belichick and Brady and everyone else, but they're still going to score a touchdown. You know why? Because **** you, that's why.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: ruiner on November 19, 2007, 05:55 PM
Which begs the question - is it wrong (morally and/or ethically) to drive the score up?

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 19, 2007, 06:20 PM
Nah.

Everyone called them cheaters - so they're serving notice that they can kick your ass for 60 straight minutes without their video tapes.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 19, 2007, 06:33 PM
Nah.

Everyone called them cheaters - so they're serving notice that they can kick your ass for 60 straight minutes without their video tapes.

They are cheaters.  At least Belichick is.  If they weren't, they wouldn't have lost their draft picks.

And the info gathered from those tapes were, are, and will probably be helping them for games to come.

Exactly to what extent they have been benefiting from their illegal actions, we may never know.  But the fines and penalties handed out is a clue:

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell considered suspension but in the end fined the New England Patriots and coach Bill Belichick for illegal use of sideline video equipment, announcing $750,000 in penalties Thursday night and the forfeiture of one or more top draft choices.
Belichick was fined $500,000, while the franchise will pay $250,000 more. If the high-powered Patriots make the playoffs, they will lose their first-round draft choice. They must surrender second- and third-round choices if they fail to qualify for the postseason.

"This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid longstanding rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Goodell said in a letter to the Patriots.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 19, 2007, 06:44 PM
They're about to be cheaters with a fresh Superbowl Trophy, and potentially a 19-0 season where they crush most of the major offensive records. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 19, 2007, 08:06 PM
They're about to be cheaters with a fresh Superbowl Trophy, and potentially a 19-0 season where they crush most of the major offensive records. 

And a lot asterisks.

2007 Superbowl Champions*

Tom Brady NFL MVP*

Passing records*

Touchdown records*

And no first round pick in the draft.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on November 19, 2007, 09:33 PM
Oh they still have a 1st rounder - from the Niner's, and it'll probably be a top 5 pick.


The F-You to the rest of the world continues.


In the meantime, almost no one (Boston-hating New Yorkers aside) is talking about the video taping thing anymore.  Hardly anyone cares.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Mikey D on November 20, 2007, 09:40 AM

And a lot asterisks.

2007 Superbowl Champions*

Tom Brady NFL MVP*

Passing records*

Touchdown records*

And no first round pick in the draft.

Wow, who knew Don Shula posted here?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 2, 2007, 11:00 PM
I know I'm probably going to lose when Romo, Moss, Grant, Crayton, and Clark are sitting around waiting for the playoffs to start, but 98 points with Randy Moss to go sure is a lot of fun.   8)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 3, 2007, 04:22 PM
I know I'm probably going to lose when Romo, Moss, Grant, Crayton, and Clark are sitting around waiting for the playoffs to start, but 98 points with Randy Moss to go sure is a lot of fun.   8)


Which brings us back to the vote in the beginning of this thread.

Other than for purposes of just disagreeing with Dressel, I'm not sure what you did that for.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on December 3, 2007, 04:54 PM
Maybe because he couldn't predict how well his team would do?  He wanted Rivers for his QB remember?  I helped him out by not taking Romo.  Everyone prior to the start of the season thought Moss was still going to be a cancer in the locker room.  Crayton was a #3 on Dallas.  Grant who?  Oh Ryan Grant, the GB running back?  Yeah, we all knew he was a stud. 

I don't think anyone ignored it just to spite Dressel, in spite of what your ego might tell you.  I think everyone ignored it for two reasons: 
1. We're all in the same boat.  No one knows at the start of the season who'll be in the playoffs.  Of course you'll probably chime in and tell me you absolutely knew that Green Bay was going to be 10-2 at this point in the season.
2. It's a crap shoot regardless of when the playoffs start, unless we go to running them from weeks 10-13 and even then people might find reason to complain about the finals being in week 13 because guys are going to be sat. 

If he (and you really) want to brag about who had the best team, let the regular season be the measuring stick.  Getting a virtual trophy not showing up in your yahoo profile is painful, no doubt about it, but I think Rob will live through it.   :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 3, 2007, 05:05 PM
Indeed.  My rationale was entirely that having the championship game the last week would mean one more week of fantasy football - that was really all there was to it.

After saying we should leave it this way, I then also qualified that it wasn't a big deal and that I'd be cool with whatever the group wanted.

And we're all in the same boat entirely.  Maybe the teams with the bye decide to play them week 17 to keep them from having 3 weeks in between games.

Maybe I end up playing Jamie that week and he's without Brady...

Whatever it is, it will be fair, even if it doesn't work out favorably for me.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on December 3, 2007, 05:08 PM
I'm picking one of the following to win the league this year:

Cranes
Golden Girls
Canuckleheads
Cornballers

Only because it'll drive Dressel completely nuts. 

Hey, aren't I the commissioner?  Hmm.... how can I fix this? :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 3, 2007, 05:17 PM
I hate to say it but at the moment I think Marin's team has a legitimate shot... she's scoring all kinds of points lately.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on December 3, 2007, 05:22 PM
If I still had Ronnie Brown, I'd like my own team's chances.  Now, I can probably pull off and upset but not 2-3
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 3, 2007, 05:51 PM
I like how Ronnie Brown hasn't played since like week 6 and I think he still has more points than Reggie Bush.   ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 11, 2007, 10:42 AM
Oh good I was hoping I'd face Tom Brady in Round 1  ::)

Jesus H.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 11, 2007, 12:48 PM
And Belichick has an axe to grind with the Jets after the way Mangini ratted him out week 1 - He's going to try to put up 100 on them.

You're ******.


Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 11, 2007, 05:11 PM
And Belichick has an axe to grind with the Jets after the way Mangini ratted him out week 1 - He's going to try to put up 100 on them.

You're ******.




I tend to agree with you that this looks poor because of the Jets situation, but still and all, the only reason I haven't totally waived the white flag is that Y! has actually still made me the 8 point favorite.  Jamie's got Brady, but the aside from the incredible edge he has on me at QB, the rest of my team is more talented.

Round 1 could be my toughest game of the playoffs.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 11, 2007, 05:21 PM
Indeed.  Good luck to you.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: jjks on December 12, 2007, 02:21 AM
You're less than a 3 point favorite now Dressel, seemed like a good time to suit LenDale back up since he's playing KC. Sensing a gigantic running game from the Titans this week.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 12, 2007, 11:02 PM
You're less than a 3 point favorite now Dressel, seemed like a good time to suit LenDale back up since he's playing KC. Sensing a gigantic running game from the Titans this week.

I'm not going to start Vince Young, so he'll probably pass for 400 yards and match his season total of 5 TDs in 1 game.

If I start Young, you can count on 3 ground scores from White.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 13, 2007, 10:22 AM
and match his season total of 5 TDs in 1 game.

All of them rushing no doubt.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 16, 2007, 06:41 PM
This is looking worse and worse by the minute.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 16, 2007, 10:38 PM
This is looking worse and worse by the minute.

Brandon Jacobs has 20 minutes to punch a TD in, or it's curtains for Los Zodos.

Really torn here as a Giants fan.  I think I'd actually rather take this loss to the RedSkins, and advance to the semis with Rob and Scott already bounced from the playoffs.

Crazy, but true.

My chances of repeating as champion suddenly look quite, quite good.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 16, 2007, 11:15 PM
Yep - It's curtains.  This is going to be far more disappointing then not making the playoffs.  I can understand Moss being shut out in the cold, but 9 yards for Clark?  Romo averages 14 points per week, lays down less than 1 at home!?

Romo, Moss, Brady, Dallas Clark, Derek Anderson, Wes Welker, Braylon Edwards, T.O....  reliable studs are having a horrible week at exactly the wrong time.

Meanwhile (and I know there's still the game tomorrow) I've got the 1-seed and I have more points then every team other then the one I'm playing.

It's pretty incredible actually.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 16, 2007, 11:17 PM
Stayin' alive Rob!  Giants driving and at the 40 with a 1st down and 8 minutes to go.

You ain't dead just yet.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Scott on December 16, 2007, 11:18 PM
I certainly laid an egg but I expected no less from my team...inconsitency was all I had the last 8 weeks.  Good luck to everyone still playing
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 16, 2007, 11:26 PM
Stayin' alive Rob!  Giants driving and at the 40 with a 1st down and 8 minutes to go.

You ain't dead just yet.

I saw that the Giants were in the red-zone, so I grabbed the remote and flipped the TV back on, and by the time I turned it over to the right channel, the Skins had the ball back.

 ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 17, 2007, 11:39 AM
Stayin' alive Rob!  Giants driving and at the 40 with a 1st down and 8 minutes to go.

You ain't dead just yet.

I saw that the Giants were in the red-zone, so I grabbed the remote and flipped the TV back on, and by the time I turned it over to the right channel, the Skins had the ball back.

 ::)

You still need to root against A-Pete and Chester Taylor racking up 18 or more points tonight, so your girlfriend can advance to the semis.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 17, 2007, 11:57 AM
I need to do that for more reasons then one.  I've got a 35 point lead in the RS league - and it's a money league.  And I'm against AP and the Viking's Defense.

(in that league 35 points isn't as much as it is in ours)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 17, 2007, 12:06 PM
I need to do that for more reasons then one.  I've got a 35 point lead in the RS league - and it's a money league.  And I'm against AP and the Viking's Defense.

(in that league 35 points isn't as much as it is in ours)

Then for you and me both, let's hope the Vikiings D doesn't have interceptions, fumble recoveries, and TD's up the ass likey they did against the Giants in week 12.

Oh ****, is Sexy Rexy starting?  :o :'(

EDIT: Just checked, it's 3rd stringer Kyle Orton.  Grossman's out with a knee injury.  I don't know if that's good or not.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 17, 2007, 12:56 PM
It's probably very very bad that Orton is starting.  He was never very good to begin with, and has barely played in 2 years.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 18, 2007, 12:24 AM
Shades of last season... I outscore everyone, except for the team I'm playing.   :'(

I hate to have to count on Marin to beat you Dressel.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 18, 2007, 06:41 AM
Shades of last season... I outscore everyone, except for the team I'm playing.   :'(

I hate to have to count on Marin to beat you Dressel.

My Y! scoreboard is stuck as of right now at 6:30 AM EST on our playoff scores before MNF, but from what I can tell, Taylor and APete accrued about 19 points, which means Marin is history as well, losing by 1 point.


Gotta wait for Y! to update to make it official.

EDIT:  Marin won by 1/2 point.  I'm excited, I was less thrilled about having to face A-Pete and Peyton next week.  Plus now I get to avenge that OT Favre bomb to Jennings  :D

Another interesting note - all 3 of the top seeds were bounced round 1.  You can't predict these things.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 18, 2007, 09:56 AM
Indeed - a bad weather storm moving through the northeast essentially wiped out teams relying on Anderson and Brady and Moss.

Romo has no excuse - Jessica Simpson watching or not.   >:(

The irony here is that I think I'd have eeked out a win if I'd just started Jeff Garcia.   ::)


And thankfully, I edged out a win in the Rebelscum money league - I've got a 3 seed there and am up against a 2 seed.  But losing Fargas isn't helpful. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on December 18, 2007, 10:32 PM
Just checked my team from last week for the heck of it.  I scored enough points to beat everyone except Dressel, Rob and Jim.  Had Westbrook gone in for the TD, I'd have outscored everyone.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 23, 2007, 07:20 PM
JD Fantasy Football Superbowl history:

I  : Chuckles defeats ?? (help me fill in the ?, I wasn't in that league)
II : Rob defeats Nicklab
III: Kevin defeats Scott
IV: Dressel defeats Brian

And now....

JD Fantasy Football Superbowl V:

Dressel vs. Ryan - Sunday, December 30th
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 23, 2007, 07:35 PM
I'd like to go on the record that I"m doubly disappointed with last week's shennagins.  If I'd just had an extra 4 points and won, I'd have steamrolled through this week (with my 88 points...) and would be facing Dressel in a match-up of epic proportions.  Damn 8-seed being the ONLY team I didn't outscore...

I'm going to be a very sore loser this year... since my team completely kicked ass and continues to do so in the consolation bracket.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 23, 2007, 07:40 PM
I'd like to go on the record that I"m doubly disappointed with last week's shennagins.  If I'd just had an extra 4 points and won, I'd have steamrolled through this week (with my 88 points...) and would be facing Dressel in a match-up of epic proportions.  Damn 8-seed being the ONLY team I didn't outscore...

I'm going to be a very sore loser this year... since my team completely kicked ass and continues to do so in the consolation bracket.



It would have been fun, but as it turns out a lot of your stars will likely be on the pine for Week 17.  But I'd have had a chance to avenge my loss in the semifinals to you the year you won in 2004.  I was just 1 game away from the Superbowl that year too.

This would have been some week of trashtalking though, from one end of the site to the other.

I wasn't in the league the first season, who did Chuckles beat? 

Guess I'll sit Gates tomorrow night to make sure he doesn't lose 3 fumbles.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 24, 2007, 01:21 AM
I don't know who Chuckles played... the year I won was my first year in the league.

Shame we're not getting the kick ass match-up, but you're right, I'd have been without Romo, Moss, Clark, maybe Holmes, possibly Crayton... Grant will probably sit.  It'd have been a joke.  Even Brandon Jacobs might sit since the Giants are locked into the 5 seed (I think).

I think that next year I'll be in favor of moving the championship up a week - I'm sure we can get enough support for that.  Additionally, I might suggest 6 playoff teams.  I don't think an 8th place team should get the chance to knock off a #1 - and yes, that's probably mostly because I'm bitter of the way it shook out in the first round.  If we'd had 6 teams, I'd have been on a bye, cruised through this week and we'd be playing next week for all the marbles.




At least it looks like we'll get plenty of good trash talking in though, the Giants are coming to Tampa for the WC round.   8)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on December 24, 2007, 03:01 AM


I think that next year I'll be in favor of moving the championship up a week - I'm sure we can get enough support for that.  Additionally, I might suggest 6 playoff teams.  I don't think an 8th place team should get the chance to knock off a #1 - and yes, that's probably mostly because I'm bitter of the way it shook out in the first round.  If we'd had 6 teams, I'd have been on a bye, cruised through this week and we'd be playing next week for all the marbles.

I disagree with a first round bye.  I also disagree with changing the playoff structure in any way.  It's part of the way the game is played.  And yes, you're right, it's coming across as purely being bitter at the moment.  If we had switched it, you'd have had a bye, two more people would have been not paying attention and you still might have lost.  You lost thanks to the weather.  Do you really think it's fair to get a bye week on that basis ::)

Fantasy sports is a total crap shoot that requires some knowledge and some management.  If you guys really think you're that frickin' smart about sports, well, give me a ******* break.  You might be knowledgeable, but it's part draft, part, part waiver, huge freaking part luck. 

At the start of the season everyone was mostly down on Moss.  He was a cancer.  Oops. 
You gook Romo in the 7th round and complained in the draft that I had taken Rivers when you wanted him.  Let me put it to you this way: if Rivers had played as well as last year or I had taken Romo, you wouldn't even be in this situation to complain about.  It's_a_crap_shoot.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 24, 2007, 10:37 AM
Tell me something I don't know.   :) 

I suggested 6 teams for two reasons.  One is because I'm bitter.  But there's more to it then that.  The assertion that 8 teams is part of the game isn't really true, that's just how we've run it here.  The other leagues I play in don't have 8 team playoffs in 12 team leagues.  The way we do it, a team or two with losing records gets in - no real sports league lets 2/3rds of the teams into its post season.

It's not a big deal either way, just some ideas to consider.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on December 24, 2007, 01:38 PM
My contention is that if we had done that this year, about half the league was so miserable we'd have all given up.  Then you get teams dumping players or shady deals starting.  The more teams that have a chance at the playoffs, the more active and competetive the waiver wire becomes. 

Jim finished 8th, but went 6-2 over the last 8 weeks.  That's not deserving?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 24, 2007, 01:59 PM
If I win a 2nd straight Super Bowl, I'm fine with the rules the way they are.

If I lose, I'll keep demanding changes until I win again.


...So, things will be staying the way they are  :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 24, 2007, 02:48 PM
Jim finished 8th, but went 6-2 over the last 8 weeks.  That's not deserving?

Well, it's fantasy football right?  In real football, teams put together big runs at the end and still don't make the playoffs with losing records.

I'm just sayin'
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Ryan on December 24, 2007, 08:01 PM
...So, things will be staying the way they are  :)

Only 'cause I'm going out of town on Wednesday, though I'm not going to Hawaii so I may still have a chance yet... :P

Willie Parker breaking his leg the other night sure didn't help my chances though. :-\
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 25, 2007, 12:38 AM

Willie Parker breaking his leg the other night sure didn't help my chances though. :-\

And I'm pretty sure Barber is riding the pine for most of the game.  I hope.

And Travis Henry can't run his way out of a wet paper bag at the moment.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 30, 2007, 03:48 PM
Who the **** is Chris Redman?

Ha ha, love being beat down in a Super Bowl game by a handful of bench players.

Unless Steven Jackson, Marc Bulger, Anquan Boldin and Antonio Gates have some magic in store at 4:30 today, Ryan's champ for a year.

And here I was excited I wasn't going to have to face that 3-headed monster of Parker-Barber III-Henry in Ryan's backfield.

I'll need a Christmas miracle here to make up for Burress being benched last night.  Nobody on Earth thought he was playing, 2 TDs later I'm losing to ******* Chris Redman, QB extraordinaire of the Atlanta Falcons.

Okay.  Bulger to Steven Jackson twice should do the trick.

And Antonio Gates needs to get off his ******* ass and catch some passes this week.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 30, 2007, 04:17 PM
Scratch that!

I'm dead.

Redman and Pierre Thomas, 2 season-long fantasy staples of the leader boards, have now combined for 37 points alone.

I've still got 4 left to play, but...

Congrats Ryan.  You got it.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2007, 04:52 PM
Redman, that's the guy that I was talking about the other day who only had like 37 yards passing against the Bucs a few weeks back.

The guy flat out sucks - and it took balls (or complete desperation) to start him in a championship game.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2007, 07:06 PM
Look at it this way Dressel.  If I'd advanced, which I did not, it would have been my team routing yours - which probably would have made it worse.

That said - huge congrats to the Airmen, it sure looks like it's over at this point.  Bravo!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Ryan on December 31, 2007, 03:02 AM
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Woohoo! The waiver wire was my savior this week. :)

Nicely played Dressel, and everybody else. It was a very fun season.

I sure had to dig deep this week. I knew Garrard wouldn't be playing and Campbell was hurt \, so I had to find a QB. Despite an absolutely awful game in Tampa, Redman had decent stats three out of the last four weeks. Nothing to get really excited about or anything but I figured he might be able to pull in 250 yds 2 TDs and an INT. I gambled quite a bit there but it paid off. Same with Pierre thomas. He had a good game last week and with my RBs either hurt or watching from the sideline this week I needed something. Payton said he would get his share of touches even if the other guy (I'm spacing his name at the moment)  started. Larry sure had a nice game for me too. I guess I got lucky everyone else did good, because Sproles didn't do ****, I was going to go with Roddy White but changed it at the last minute.

(Redman's Stats over the last 4 weeks)

Quote
                           QBRat  Comp Att  Pct    Yds   TD   Int
   Week 13 (@STL)    97.9  16     24   66.7   172   2    1     
   Week 14 (NOR)      87.3  23     40   57.5   298   2    1   
   Week 15 (@TAM)   0.0 4 15     26.  7 34   34     0    2   
   Week 16 (@ARI)    94.8  28     42   66.7   315    2    1


I'm looking forward to defending the title next year.  :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2007
Post by: Morgbug on December 31, 2007, 12:52 PM
Congratulations Ryan, well played right to the end.  Good stuff. 

Congrats again to Scott for winning Survival Football.

Congrats to Mikey for winning Salary Cap; that homer pick right from the start paid off. 

Congrats to Scott for the first place finish (tie) in Pro football pick 'em too.  Nice year Scott.