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Title: NHL 2005-06
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 2, 2005, 01:41 PM
Well, the new CBA has been struck, the buyout period has passed and now free agency has begun. 

First of the FA signings:

1) Adam Foote to Columbus
2) Bobby Holik to Atlanta
3) Derian Hatcher, Chris Therrien and Mike Rathje to Philly
4) Adrian Aucoin to Chicago
5) Yzerman resigns with Detroit
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 2, 2005, 01:49 PM
$$ are down too.   :)

Something even local for us.  Randy Carlyle, formerly coach/GM of the Manitoba Moose is off to Anaheim to coach the Ducks.  That's a step up, right? ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on August 2, 2005, 01:52 PM
Preds need to get busy and sign a center  :-[
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Aucassin on August 2, 2005, 01:59 PM
1) Adam Foote to Columbus

Bummer.  :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 2, 2005, 02:05 PM
I'm enjoying just reading all the rumors.  It's out of control.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 2, 2005, 02:22 PM
Don't forget the Wild...

We "upgraded" from enforcer Matt Johnson (473 games, 1523 Penalty Minutes) to left wing/enforcer Andrei Nazarov (569 games, 1403 PM).


But my favorite move so far has been drafting LW Benoit Pouliot...

(http://assets.sportvision.com/wild/assets/images/37290.jpg)

Look at him!  The hair!  The name!  Now that's a Hockey player!   :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 2, 2005, 02:26 PM
That's not a mullet :(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 2, 2005, 02:57 PM
Bruins resign Glen Murray and Shawn McEachern.  Was hoping the Wings would get Murray since he was on their radar after the 03-04 season. 

Preds get Danny Markov from the Flyers for a 3rd round pick.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on August 2, 2005, 04:01 PM
1) Adam Foote to Columbus

Bummer.  :'(

Major Bummer. :'( Foote was one of my favorite players on the Avs, I think I would have rather seen Blake go, or better yet a couple scrubs. :(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 2, 2005, 04:55 PM
Pavol Demitra signs with LA.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 2, 2005, 08:12 PM
Zhitnik signs with the Isles

Stillman signs with the Canes

Straka signs with the Rangers

Amonte and Darren McCarty rumored to be signed by the Flames

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on August 2, 2005, 09:42 PM
Lightning Re-Sign Fedotenko

Jay Feaster still has to address restricted free agents Vinny Lecavalier and Martin St. Louis and try to convince unrestricted free-agent goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin to return to the Lightning.


Just when it looked like the Lightning were sitting pretty, a cancelled season leaves the entire team hanging...

Just great.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 2, 2005, 10:10 PM
I don't think the Lightning will keep all of them.

Rumors flying that Modano has resigned with the Stars for 5 years, keeping him a life-long Minnesota North Stars/Dallas Stars guy. 

Martin Lapointe rumored to be heading to Ottawa.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 3, 2005, 01:05 AM
When the news ended tonight here there was word of the Pens going after Neidermeyer since they lost out on getting someone whose name escapes me now...

It's nice feeling excited for hockey again...  I'm ready. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: CorranHorn on August 3, 2005, 01:28 AM
4) Adrian Aucoin to Chicago

Oh yeah that's going to put butts in the seats at the United Center. Same old ****, different day from the Wirtzes...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on August 3, 2005, 03:18 AM
Lots of rumors about us being interested in Lindros. Not so sure I like that idea, even if he came cheap...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 3, 2005, 03:27 AM
Rumors from Vancouver radio that Naslund has resigned.

First huge trade of the new CBA era:
Blues trade Chris Pronger to the Oilers for Eric Brewer and 2 other Dmen.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 3, 2005, 04:13 AM
Lots of rumors about us being interested in Lindros. Not so sure I like that idea, even if he came cheap...

Don't blame you in the slightest.  He's never produced what he was expected to, and spends half the time out.  That's a rough one to take even cheap...  With a cap now the owners will be thinking a lot more about guys going down with injuries, and those who constantly seem to do so.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 3, 2005, 09:40 AM
That's not a mullet :(

How is this one?  Mullet-y enough?

(http://assets.sportvision.com/wild/assets/images/37312.jpg)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 3, 2005, 01:18 PM
Kovalev resigns w/ Montreal
Iginla resigns w/ Calgary
Gonchar signs w/ Pittsburgh

EJ Hradek says the Sharks have signed Kariya
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 3, 2005, 04:23 PM
That's not a mullet :(

How is this one?  Mullet-y enough?

(http://assets.sportvision.com/wild/assets/images/37312.jpg)

Better, but not classic.  Might have had his hair cut for draft day though.  Wonder how many teeth he's missing?

Did you guys miss Gelinas going to the Panthers? 

I gotta say, as somebody without a team, this has been the most interesting couple of days in hockey in quite some time.  Surprised at a few of the salaries but mostly pleased overall. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 3, 2005, 04:25 PM
They keep coming:

CuJo signs with Pitt (supposedly done)
Berard signs with Columbus
Leetch signs with Boston
Dandenault signs with Montreal  :'(
Satan signs w/ the Isles

Modano rejects Stars' offer!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 3, 2005, 05:52 PM
Oilers trade Mike York to Isles for Mike Peca.

More stuff here...
http://www2.sportsnet.ca/nhl/free_agent_tracker.html
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on August 3, 2005, 06:21 PM
I just can't wait to see Hullie back in action.  After he retires, I'm retiring from hockey too.

 :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 3, 2005, 07:00 PM
Flyers have signed Forsberg.  They are now over the cap.  Rumor is JR is heading to LA.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 3, 2005, 11:25 PM
Y'know, the big winner in this is probably TMP International.  Just think of the retros. ::)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 4, 2005, 01:19 AM
Y'know, the big winner in this is probably TMP International.  Just think of the retros. ::)

I already posed that question to Mark about a update set.  He seemed luke warm to the idea.  Said something about how they don't want to use old poses because of scale issues and how they feel their product has improved over the years.  I countered with a list of players who are almost all in newer, larger scale poses.  We'll see what kind of figs we get.  They could really do a whole set of updated repaints.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 4, 2005, 10:41 AM
Flyers have signed Forsberg.  They are now over the cap.  Rumor is JR is heading to LA.

 ;D

Anything that makes Colorado weaker is OK in my book! 

Colorado minus Roy?  minus Foote?  minus Forsberg?

That equals good news for the rest of us in the division... if only Vancouver would have lost Naslund!   ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on August 4, 2005, 11:26 AM
I don't understand what Nashville is doing. We've haven't signed anyone, and I don't even hear any rumors about us being interested in anyone anymore. Screwing this up big time...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 4, 2005, 02:12 PM
I don't understand what Nashville is doing. We've haven't signed anyone, and I don't even hear any rumors about us being interested in anyone anymore. Screwing this up big time...

I think the reality is that your team is one of those clubs this CBA was created for: a team that has no intention of spending.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 4, 2005, 02:45 PM
I think the reality is that your team is one of those clubs this CBA was created for: a team that has no intention of spending.

Welcome to the Club, Jamie!   :D

I think the Wild are in the same boat, as the only money they have spent is re-signing their own (cheap) players and draft picks.  Sure, there were a lot of rumors about Modano coming "home" to Minnesota, but I think that was just sports radio "filler".

Sure will be an interesting year...

Jeff
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on August 4, 2005, 03:31 PM
It's frustrating because the talk at the beginning of the week made it sound like they were serious about acquiring some upper level talent, and now it looks like they have no intention of following through with that.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on August 4, 2005, 03:55 PM
I was so sad to see Forsberg and Foote go. :'( :'( They were 2 of the 3 remaing original players and my favorites too. On the bright side they didn't go to Detroit or Vancouver, I despise both of them. The Avs really screwed up by not pursuing these guys farther. >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 4, 2005, 08:45 PM
It's frustrating because the talk at the beginning of the week made it sound like they were serious about acquiring some upper level talent, and now it looks like they have no intention of following through with that.

You have a team.  Slap a cork in it cuz it could be worse >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 5, 2005, 01:38 PM
Jay Feaster still has to address restricted free agents Vinny Lecavalier and Martin St. Louis and try to convince unrestricted free-agent goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin to return to the Lightning.

Well, there's one loss for the Defending Champs...

Khabibulin signs four-year deal with Blackhawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2125851)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JedioftheNorth on August 5, 2005, 02:10 PM
Flames re-signed Iginla and that's all that matters also like the pick up of Amonte some added fire power.  Gonna have to watch the Penquins this year gotta cheer for the local hero Crosby.  Since I did grow up in cole harbour NS, canada aswell gotta cheer for him.  Plus it sounds like everyone is going there so they may be a good team too watch aswell.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on August 5, 2005, 03:34 PM
Well, there's one loss for the Defending Champs...

Khabibulin signs four-year deal with Blackhawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2125851)


There goes the season. 

 >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on August 8, 2005, 10:44 PM
NHL reinstates Todd Bertuzzi, decision leaves Steve Moore disappointed (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/sports/story.html?id=3ec22ab9-3fe9-489a-9bb7-b94533de5e4f)

Gretzky named head coach of NHL's Coyotes (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1123515251011_118924451/?hub=CTVNewsAt11)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 8, 2005, 11:06 PM
NHL reinstates Todd Bertuzzi, decision leaves Steve Moore disappointed (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/sports/story.html?id=3ec22ab9-3fe9-489a-9bb7-b94533de5e4f)

**** Steve Moore.  Did Bertuzzi do a stupid thing?  Of course.  Does he deserve to be punished?  Of couse.  Do I feel bad that Moore was injured?  Of course.

But did Steve Moore do a stupid thing too?  Damn right.  Steve could have ended Marcus Naslund's career with his knee-to-knee shot.  For him to portray himself as an innocent victim makes me sick.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 8, 2005, 11:21 PM
It was judged a clean hit by the league.  A stupid hit, but clean.  Far, far from what that ******* Bertuzzi did.  Sorry, but I'm disagreeing, Bertuzzi should never see the ice again.  Had he been anything but a professional athlete he'd be in prison.  Period.  Don't believe it?  Take a look at any incident in rec hockey in Canada.  Lots of guys that have criminal records wandering around for stick and fist incidents.  Bertuzzi's a chicken**** for suckerpunching him.  One of the big goons in the league?  **** that, take him face on.  Oh wait, Moore already fought someone else in the same game, face on.  Guess that's not good enough is it?   Nope, he should have fought every ******* Canuck on the ice, taken as many stitches and broken bones and lost teeth as he deserved.  Every ******* player, even the goalie should have had a shot at him.   ::)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on August 8, 2005, 11:39 PM
Bertuzzi should never see the ice again.

Ditto!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 9, 2005, 12:08 AM
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The NHL has decided the 17 months Todd Bertuzzi was prevented from playing hockey is enough punishment

Uh, ****wad Bettman?  He only missed 13 regular games and 7 playoff games, that's barely a month of hockey ::)

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Danson said Bertuzzi should be suspended for 82 games, the same penalty Marty McSorley received for clubbing Donald Brashear on the head with his stick.

Hmm, heat of the moment versus visibly stalking a player on the ice.  Yeah, I agree, chasing a guy around the ice and then jumping him from behind is far less intense.

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Bettman said he realizes that because of the labour dispute, some people may think a 17-month suspension is "inadequate, and not proportionate to suspensions imposed on other players."

"I am comfortable and confident that Mr. Bertuzzi suffered an even more significant impact financially and emotionally during the full term of his suspension," Bettman said.
Once again, Bettman hasn't a ******* clue.  Mr. Bertuzzi suffered a financial impact greater than the end of a career (albeit mediocre, but I bet Moore was making more a year than the $500K Bertuzzi lost in salary.  And emotionally?  **** him, we're all responsible for our actions, trivial of thuggery. 

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In December Bertuzzi pleaded guilty to assault causing bodily harm and received a conditional discharge. He was sentenced to a year's probation and 80 hours of community service.
Joke sentence.  Any of us would have seen prison time.  80 hours of community service? ::)

That Gretzky is supporting this is disappointing too, but I guess he knows where his bread is buttered. 

I'm as sick of this as anyone is, but the league and the justice system left it wide open to fester for years. 

Have to add this after the fact:  I hate Bettman, ******* ******* ******* ******* ******* really ******* hate him.  He's an ass and destroying the league.  He won the battle but hasn't got a clue how to run a war.  Jackass.  Moron.  ****tard.  Idiot.  Wanker.   >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 9, 2005, 12:26 AM
"The NHL has decided the 17 months Todd Bertuzzi was prevented from playing hockey is enough punishment."
Uh, ****wad Bettman?  He only missed 13 regular games and 7 playoff games, that's barely a month of hockey ::)

His punishment is a complete joke, I think anyone would agree with that.  $500,000 - Sure, to you or me, that's a **** load of money, but to him?  Hardly a dent.

I guess I just have a hard time with Steve Moore coming off as such an "innocent".  It's just too hard for me to ignore the knee-on-knee hit - I know the league said it was a clean hit, but to me it's one of the dirtiest moves in the book.  I'm not saying it justifies the stupid extreme that Bertuzzi took this to, but surely Moore shouldn't be allowed to portray himself as a total victim.

Have to add this after the fact:  I hate Bettman, ******* ******* ******* ******* ******* really ******* hate him.  He's an ass and destroying the league.  He won the battle but hasn't got a clue how to run a war.  Jackass.  Moron.  ****tard.  Idiot.  Wanker.   >:(

Now that's something I can't argue with.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 9, 2005, 12:35 AM
Pittsburgh's on a freakin' spree. :)  Ziggie Palfy was the big one gaining the most attention around the city so far...  This whole thing's been weird to watch though...  Never seen so much movement.  I think the "he who hesitates, masturbates" phrase may be something we hear into the season for the teams not making many moves.  I mean, you have your cap, you know what you gotta do, so I'd be moving... 

Lots of names still gonna be moving around though for sure.  This is fun, and yet sort of frightening to watch.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 9, 2005, 12:38 AM
Oh sure, change the whole tone of the discussion ::)

The Pens have been doing some amazing things.  What a spectacular environment for Crosby to walk into.  The question now becomes where to draft the kid in a fantasy draft.  He can play, but he's young and inexperienced.  At the same time, he's bound to be on the powerplay with Palffy, Lemieux and Gonchar?  There's no way he can not score buckets of points.  Especially if the league ::) actually enforces its own rules.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 9, 2005, 12:50 AM
Funny how, when thinking of fantasy Hockey, the question even needs asking about the variable of rule enforcement.  That should be such a non-issue, but yet it's still there lingering...  I think NHL Ref's uniforms should be mandatory pocketless ones.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 10, 2005, 01:56 AM
Pens were looking at Burke too and he declined the offer and went to Tampa I guess...  Never heard much about Cujo around here at all.  Never made much in the local news so I'm guessing that wasn't a real substantial rumor.

I dunno why they're after a mentor for Fleury now really, but whatever.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 11, 2005, 12:23 AM
Pens get Thibault.

Samsonov stays in Boston.

Havlat and Fisher stay in Ottawa - looking decent.

Esche (sp?) signs in Philly.

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 11, 2005, 12:49 AM
The Cujo rumor was mentioned for the first time in today's paper, but didn't get much play... 

Thibault?  Hmmm...  Well if they're just looking for a mentor and not a starter.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Mikey D on August 11, 2005, 05:19 PM
Leafs sign the walking concussion Lindros (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2131689)

Man, he never lived up to his potential.  Pissed me off he couldn't bring the Cup to Philly.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 11, 2005, 05:21 PM
Leafs sign the walking concussion Lindros (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2131689)

Man, he never lived up to his potential.  Pissed me off he couldn't bring the Cup to Philly.

 :D

I hate the Leafs and can't think of them doing anything better.  What a buncha maroons.  More ego than talent and then that family history of soft heads.  Oops.  For whatever reason the Leafs have been wanting him for years.  Now they have him and he can retire out of there.  I'm sure that makes him happy and that's good, he's had a tough career (largely of his own making).
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 11, 2005, 05:39 PM
Bruins sign Thornton.   8)

Can you believe it, the Bruins are actually spending money and signing players?

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 11, 2005, 06:48 PM
Sure, maybe the NHL isn't on TV, but hey - the merchandising juggernaut is back in full swing!

Hey, Jason - have you picked up one of these yet?   :P

(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/UD43280lg.jpg)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 11, 2005, 10:56 PM
Actually Jeff I have been eyeballing that.   ;D  My buddy has my chips since he's been playing like crazy the last few months w/ his office buddies.  I saw this on the Wings site but it says it's a pre-order scheduled for delivery in 12-15 weeks.  It says it's an Upper Deck product.  I'm totally buying it.  Just curious when it's actually due for release. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 12, 2005, 01:10 AM
1 year, $1.55 mill...  Not the greatest deal for Lindros...  Not what I actually would've expected him to settle for anyway.  I wonder if he will retire then though, what with it being a 1-year deal and all.

He sure was a let-down though throughout his career.  I remember this guy being touted as the 2nd coming and he never really shined much.  The epitome of "Size Matters Not" I guess.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 12, 2005, 09:56 AM
Actually Jeff I have been eyeballing that.   ;D  My buddy has my chips since he's been playing like crazy the last few months w/ his office buddies.  I saw this on the Wings site but it says it's a pre-order scheduled for delivery in 12-15 weeks.  It says it's an Upper Deck product.  I'm totally buying it.  Just curious when it's actually due for release. 

I saw it over at Entertainment Earth with a due date of Oct/November 2005 so it should be out in time for Christmas.


And Jamie, don't you have a reaction to Paul Kariya?  At least your club finally did something...  while your club was signing him, my club was signing Andrei Zyuzin.   ::)

I mean, he's a fine defensemen and everything, but where's our free agency superstar (or at least has-been superstar)?   :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 12, 2005, 01:44 PM
He sure was a let-down though throughout his career.  I remember this guy being touted as the 2nd coming and he never really shined much.  The epitome of "Size Matters Not" I guess.

I don't think the holdout with Quebec did him any favors at all.  Lots of guys in the league weren't impressed with that behaviour and it made him a bit of a target.  I'd go so far as to suggest a couple of his concussions are direct results of the holdout.  He also gave up the opportunity to get another year in without all the pressure, something he seemed so badly to want exposure to in a larger market.  Still, Pierre Page, my favorite general manager of all time.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 12, 2005, 09:16 PM
Big news for today will be just resignings:

Calgary resigns Kiprusoff.
Ottaw resigns Spezza.

Lots of talk about Philly and Pittsburgh, but the Senators are looking pretty good again too.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 15, 2005, 10:58 PM
So what do you guys think of the new shoot out rule to prevent tie games?  I've never been a big fan of them in international hockey, but I'm being optimistic for the new year.

It appears they will keep the previous rule change of the winner getting 2 points and the loser in either overtime (or the shootout) will get 1 point.

I'm curious to see how this will affect teams' efforts to break a tie during overtime or the final few minutes of the 3rd period.  Will they just try to kill time to allow their snipers the chance to win, or will they increase their efforts to score to avoic the shootout?  Should be interesting to see.

NHL.com (http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/cba/rules_changes072205.html) has a great summary of the rule changes and some good diagrams too.

"Following a scoreless five-minute overtime, three players from each team participate in the order the coach selects.

Each team takes three shots. The team with the most goals after those six shots is the winner.

If the score remains tied, the shootout will proceed to a "sudden death" format.

Regardless the number of goals scored during the shootout portion of overtime, the final score recorded for the game will give the winning team one more goal than the score at the end of regulation time."
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 16, 2005, 12:30 AM
Ties are a killer for sports I think and the NHL needs every bit of help it can get to make their game exciting and interesting to EVERYONE.  Ties are a bigger drag then on the slumping NHL than other sports I believe, so I'm ok with the shoot-out format.

If the NHL would enforce rules in general though, I think you'd see a hell of a lot less ties, but that's just my opinion.

Anyway, I'm optomistic with the new format and will watch anxiously to see how it's received.

In Pittsburgh news we got Leclaire...  Who if he remains healthy will be another big contributor to the offense.  He's got the hockey curse of back problems though, soooooo hmmm.  Pitt's all-too-familiar with that injury (hell, I even have back problems from my days playing...  I think it comes with the game).

I wonder how much Rechi being here, and being a close friend of Lemieux's, got us to push for Le Claire? 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Mikey D on August 16, 2005, 05:44 PM


In Pittsburgh news we got Leclaire...  Who if he remains healthy will be another big contributor to the offense.  He's got the hockey curse of back problems though, soooooo hmmm.  Pitt's all-too-familiar with that injury (hell, I even have back problems from my days playing...  I think it comes with the game).

I wonder how much Rechi being here, and being a close friend of Lemieux's, got us to push for Le Claire? 

LeClair (no 'e').  Bummed that the Flyers had to let him go, but business is business.   Will still wear my #10 Jersey proudly, though.  If healthy, the Pens got a hell of player and an around great guy.  I think you'll enjoy seeing him plant himself in front of the net, while defenders try to push him away and him still scoring a goal. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 16, 2005, 11:10 PM
Ties are a killer for sports I think and the NHL needs every bit of help it can get to make their game exciting and interesting to EVERYONE.  Ties are a bigger drag then on the slumping NHL than other sports I believe, so I'm ok with the shoot-out format.

If the NHL would enforce rules in general though, I think you'd see a hell of a lot less ties, but that's just my opinion.

Anyway, I'm optomistic with the new format and will watch anxiously to see how it's received.


Sigh, again, I'll disagree.  Not in general, just from a purist point of view.  It's the same mentality from soccer as viewed by the US as hockey.  Nil-nil is boring in the US.  Not for hockey in Canada (though high scoring games are more entertaining, low scoring ties are not necessarily boring) or Europe for soccer (de rigeur). 

That said, for the NHL to have any measurable success in it's desired markets ( the US >:() it's going to have to have 8-6 hockey games with dancing girls in the stands ::)  Ok, that's harsh, but yeah, it needs more scoring. 

So while the purist in me screams blasphemy, being in an IHL/AHL town with shootouts, they're actually fun and do something tremedously important - they keep people in the seats until the end of the game.  Shoot-outs are cool (though I steadfastly think they have absolutely zero place in playoff hockey anywhere, any league) and fun for the fans. 

As JesseJ indicates though, simply enforcing the rules through the season would probably take us back to the glory days of the NHL, the Lemieux/Gretzky years, prior to the dreaded TRAP.  That's all they have to do.  Penalize the teams for hooking and interference and the game is one heck of a lot more entertaining and the new rules only enhance that.

Busy day of signings, here's the "highlights":

Sabres resign Briere
Canadiens sign Koivu
Preds agree to terms with Legwand
Pens-LeClair
St. Louis signs Brewer
San Jose signs Marleau, Sturm
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 17, 2005, 02:40 AM
I don't think you're disagreeing with me so much as we both see the necessary evil that is the shoot-out.  It's exciting.

I agree though, I think I'd drop shoot-outs in the play-offs.  Play till the next day if you ahve to, but no shoot-out.  It's less sporting.

I like the way they're divying the points though....   1 for the loser, 2 for the winner...  That's all good.

I think the shoot-out's ok though, and I am a purist too, but in general I think ALL sports are boring when they end in a tie.  There's a sense of dissatisfaction when I walk away from the arena without a winner.  To me that's the only area we maybe disagree on that Brent.  It's just my footing on competitive sports though...  Ties make me feel like I got cheated to an extent (irregardless if they're 0 - 0 or 8 - 8).

I think it'll help Canadian and U.S. markets though, with having the shoot-out...  But ultimately, the point remains that simple rules implementation and enforcement would make the game what it was.  They ought to be trying that before altering the game dramatically on any level.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 17, 2005, 10:03 AM
Tampa resigns LeCavalier.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on August 17, 2005, 04:15 PM
Yay!

Do they still have to deal with St. Louis too?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 17, 2005, 04:43 PM
Yay!

Do they still have to deal with St. Louis too?

I don't think so, at least not for this year.  He doesn't appear on the free agent listing (http://www.nhl.com/players/freelist05.html).  I think he's there for this year anyway.  Still a couple of big names left on that list.

Curtis Joseph is off to the Coyotes.  Maybe now we'll finally see a Phoenix sportspick from hockey :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on August 17, 2005, 04:55 PM
After I asked here I found an article that says they're in contact with St. Louis' agent and are tryign to sign him to a multi-year deal.  So I guess he's under contract for the moment, but will be a free agent next year if they don't lock him up - which I'm confiden that they will.  Khabibulin's leaving should leave room for pretty much everyone to get taken care of...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 17, 2005, 05:05 PM
Yup, and they got a good deal on Vinny too, much better than they would have under the old CBA. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 17, 2005, 05:06 PM
Meanwhile, the MN Wild signed... 

right wing Joey Tetarenko.

 ::)

I guess Modano was our only chance at a free agent.  Maybe we can get Phil Housley to come out of retirement to play for us?   :P

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 17, 2005, 05:17 PM
I guess Modano was our only chance at a free agent.  Maybe we can get Phil Housley to come out of retirement to play for us?   :P


Get Selanne with Housley.  That's the only time either was worth a lot ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on August 17, 2005, 05:28 PM
Haven't weighed in here in a while, but looks like the Preds are just about finished setting their roster after taking care of Sullivan and Hamhuis yesterday. Erat and Hall are our only two RFA's left to sign, and it sounds like they're in the process of ironing out multi-year deals for both of them.

Never did mention how happy I was to see us sign Kariya. If he is truly healthy I think he's going to be an amazing pick up. Should make for one hell of a PP unit, and some seriously speedy lines. Now if we could just end up dealing for a decent Center, I'd feel very good about this season  ;D

Brent, you're embracing Nashville this year right?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 17, 2005, 05:33 PM
Never did mention how happy I was to see us sign Kariya.

No, you never did... and some of us have been anxiously waiting your reply.

And Jamie, don't you have a reaction to Paul Kariya?  At least your club finally did something... 

I thought you didn't love me anymore...  :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 17, 2005, 05:34 PM


Brent, you're embracing Nashville this year right?

Anybody but the Coyotes.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2005, 12:37 AM
Mogliny signed with the Devils.  I suppose his best days are behind him.

Should be some interesting news out of Edmonton shortly, perhaps Ottawa as well.  The Sens probably have the biggest name still outstanding - Marian Hossa. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on August 19, 2005, 05:53 AM


NHL games will air on OLN (http://www.yoururl.comhttp://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-nhl-oln&prov=ap&type=lgns)

LAME. I don't think I even get that channel. >:(Why couldn't ESPN have signed the deal, I'll bet ratings will improve this year with the rule changes and the balance of power split up more. Not to mention the addition of more division games which will make the rivalries that much more intense. **** Bettman, I blame this on him. >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2005, 05:57 AM
Not to mention that ESPN's filled with A-holes itself...  I've despised their coverage.  I'd sooner read about it in the paper than listen to Al Morganty.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 19, 2005, 03:20 PM


NHL games will air on OLN (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-nhl-oln&prov=ap&type=lgns)


Actually, this is very good news for me.  I don't get ESPN but I do get OLN.  I'm a huge Boston fan, but being in Canada, the local networks usually only play games involving Canadian teams, so it's nearly impossible to catch a Bruins game.  But OLN likely won't have that kind of focus, so I might actually get to see Thornton and the boys play a couple times.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 19, 2005, 09:40 PM
The NHL was totally lost in the shuffle at ESPN.  They don't give a crap about it. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 23, 2005, 04:31 PM
JediMac was kind enough to inform us in the other thread that Selanne is headed back to Anaheim with a one year deal. 

Absolutely huge news today if it proves to be true:

Atlanta sends Dany Heatley to Ottawa
Ottawa sends Marian Hossa and a defencement back in return :o

That's just a monster trade IMO.  I wonder what it means to Heatley in terms of any legal responsibilities he still has.  As for Atlanta it's a fantastic deal, I consider Hossa to be a much better player (for now anyway) than Heatley. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on August 23, 2005, 04:48 PM
Atlanta sends Dany Heatley to Ottawa
Ottawa sends Marian Hossa and a defencement back in return :o 

Wow, that's a huge trade.  I will LOVE to see Hossa on the same line as Kovalchuk, especially on the PP.

Heatley has a promising future, but after his injuries (both physical and mental) from the deadly car crash, it really remains to be seen if he's going to be the same type of player he was on track to be.

I love the Senators in the East, but without Hossa they will be a weaker team - unless of course Dany plays this year like the kid who got 5 goals in the all-star game.

Wow!  Looks like Atlanta has a Press Conf. set for this afternoon...

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 23, 2005, 05:06 PM
Here's a link (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=134320).  Link confirms deal.

Greg de Vries also goes to Atlanta, Ottawa gets a first round pick.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 25, 2005, 09:47 AM
The Lightning have signed Martin St. Louis to a six year deal, roughly 30 million $$. :o  They've wrapped up St. Louis and Lecavalier to this point.  I don't expect they're going to be able to keep Brad Richards though. 

Cory Stillman and Nikolai Khabibulin are gone from the core of the champions already. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 25, 2005, 12:11 PM
I think they had to sign Martin St. Louis to a good deal after his killer year in 2003-04.  But I expected a short term deal, maybe 2 years, so that they could reward him for that great year but protect themselves if it was a "fluke".
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on August 25, 2005, 12:46 PM
It's funny you mention it that way.  I was thinking St. Louis might be my first pick this year in the draft.  Until they signed him to a long term contract.  Now I'm left wondering if he's the Alexei Yashin or the next Theo Fleury.  I am curious to see what else TB does.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on September 15, 2005, 05:05 PM
Wow, the Hall of Fame is going to be busy in a few years... Messier and Francis both retiring this year. 

I think that Messier and Fransic are like #2-3 in games played and then #2 and #4 in total points or something.  Add in Scott Stevens and that's a LOT of championships between those 3 guys.

Then, next year, you're likely looking at Robitaille, Yzerman, Hull, Roenick, Leetch among others retiring.

Man, I'm going to feel old when that happens.   :(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 15, 2005, 05:24 PM
Yeah, there's a lot of amazing players coming to the end of their careers.  I imagine all of those guys will make it to the Hall of Fame on their first try.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on September 15, 2005, 07:43 PM
Crosby with 3 assists in Pens 1st exhibition.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 15, 2005, 07:46 PM
Crosby with 3 assists in Pens 1st exhibition.

Boo yah!   8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 15, 2005, 09:28 PM
I was just looking into how far a drive it was from Kindersley to Minneapolis.  About 17 hours.  Ouch.  I was hoping to see a Bruins game vs the Wild, and the only date is Dec 15.

Jeff, Scott, you guys interested?  I'm just checking to see if this is a reasonable idea or if I'm completely insane.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on September 15, 2005, 10:36 PM
With the cost of gas, you're insane.  Check NWA for a flight hoser. ::)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 15, 2005, 10:44 PM
Cheapest flight is $455 from Saskatoon.

I figure I could probably drive it for $350 - $400.

Bah, maybe I am insane. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on September 15, 2005, 10:47 PM
Ok, you live in Canada, right?  December?  Highway 13?  17 hour drive, in winter, one way.  To save maybe $100?

Let me ask you this: how much did you spend on SW junk this month?

Hint: cut back by $25 for the next four months :-*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on September 16, 2005, 03:32 PM
Jesse/Brent - I'd be up for a Wild game if you make it down here... (wow, that was weird to type - I'm usually telling people to come "up" to MN, not "down" to MN ;))

Pre-season game start tonight and one of my pals has an extra ticket to check out the Wild v. Phoenix on Saturday so I might up up checking it out...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on September 16, 2005, 04:29 PM
Nice ESPN article about Kariya and the Preds. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2163514) Nice to see some preseason exposure for Nashville on a national level. I know our major paper has really stepped up coverage of how training camp is going, so hopefully that will help us boost interest locally. Our home opener is almost sold out, so that's a good sign considering it's a Wednesday night game.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 16, 2005, 05:07 PM
Jesse/Brent - I'd be up for a Wild game if you make it down here... (wow, that was weird to type - I'm usually telling people to come "up" to MN, not "down" to MN ;))

Pre-season game start tonight and one of my pals has an extra ticket to check out the Wild v. Phoenix on Saturday so I might up up checking it out...

Have you been to many Wild games, Jeff?  The only games I've been to were 2 Flames games in Calgary - very enjoyable.

So Brent, you want to pay for gas or beer?  Which will be cheaper?   :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on September 16, 2005, 06:16 PM
Love to go, but not going to happen.  Going to Vancouver for Christmas and moving in February.  No $$ to spare :(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on September 21, 2005, 02:26 PM
I belong to a ticket buyers group with some guys at work (9 of us) and we had our Season Ticket Draw last night.  Once again this year I bought in for 4 games.

October 25   vs. VANCOUVER
November 25   vs. ST. LOUIS
January 30   vs. DETROIT
March 21      vs. CALGARY

(The Red Wings was my #1 pick ;D)

The Wild have looked pretty good so far in their pre-season outings, but holy crap have there been a LOT of penalties though.  I guess it's all the "adjusting to the new rules" that's going on...


Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on September 22, 2005, 06:08 PM
OK, time for everyone to submit their picks on who will make the playoffs.  Here are mine:

Western Conference
1) Detroit Red Wings (Central Division champs)
2) San Jose Sharks (Pacific Division champs)
3) Calgary Flames (Northwest Division champs)
4) Colorado Avalanche
5) Dallas Stars
6) Vancouver Canucks
7) Nashville Predators
8 ) Anaheim Mighty Ducks

Eastern Conference
1) Philadelphia Flyers (Atlantic Division champs)
2) Boston Bruins (Northeast Division champs)
3) Tampa Bay Lightning (Southeast Division champs)
4) New Jersey Devils
5) Ottawa Senators
6) Toronto Maple Leafs
7) Montreal Canadiens
8 ) Pittsburgh Penguins
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on September 23, 2005, 11:58 AM
OK, time for everyone to submit their picks on who will make the playoffs.  Here are mine:

Man... kinda hard to pick when anything could happen with the new rules and what-not.   :-\ 

Here are my best guesses:


Western Conference
1. Detroit Red Wings (Central Division champs)
2. San Jose Sharks (Pacific Division champs)
3. Calgary Flames (Northwest Division champs)
4. Dallas Stars
5. Colorado Avalanche
6. Vancouver Canucks
7. Nashville Predators
8. Minnesota Wild

Eastern Conference
1. Boston Bruins (Northeast Division champs)
2. Tampa Bay Lightning (Southeast Division champs)
3. Philadelphia Flyers (Atlantic Division champs)
4. Ottawa Senators
5. New Jersey Devils
6. Montreal Canadiens
7. Pittsburgh Penguins
8. Atlanta Thrashers

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on September 26, 2005, 12:49 AM
Just got my Kings/Red Wings tix for October 13th!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on October 3, 2005, 02:21 PM
Guess no one else is ballsy enough to make some predictions... lame Canadians all claim to love the sport but are afraid to make any brash predictions.  ::)  :P

I'm getting pretty excited for this week... should be fun to have the NHL back!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 3, 2005, 07:44 PM
Guess no one else is ballsy enough to make some predictions... lame Canadians all claim to love the sport but are afraid to make any brash predictions.  ::)  :P

I'm getting pretty excited for this week... should be fun to have the NHL back!

The LA Times had a WC preview this past Sunday.  Had the Flames, Sharks and Wings at 1, 2 and 3.  Avs were at #8. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 3, 2005, 08:22 PM
Guess no one else is ballsy enough to make some predictions... lame Canadians all claim to love the sport but are afraid to make any brash predictions.  ::)  :P

I'm getting pretty excited for this week... should be fun to have the NHL back!

The LA Times had a WC preview this past Sunday.  Had the Flames, Sharks and Wings at 1, 2 and 3.  Avs were at #8. 

Avs at 8... >:( Here are my predictions with the Avs, not in 8th.

Western Conference
1. San Jose Sharks (Pacific Division champs)
2. Detroit Red Wings (Central Division champs)
3. Colorado Avalanche (Northwest Division champs)
4. Calgary Flames
5. Dallas Stars
6. Vancouver Canucks
7. Nashville Predators
8. Minnesota Wild

Eastern Conference
1. Philadelphia Flyers (Atlantic Division champs)
2. Tampa Bay Lightning (Southeast Division champs)
3. Boston Bruins (Northeast Division champs)
4. Ottawa Senators
5. New Jersey Devils
6. Montreal Canadiens
7. Atlanta Thrashers
8. Pittsburgh Penguins
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 3, 2005, 08:24 PM
Flames #1?   Holy mackarel.  

Mikka Kiprusoff = Jean Sebastien Gigeure until he proves otherwise.  Same can be said for Khabibulin; he's always been good, but a stellar playoff run with more offensive support than Kipper had.

Jarome Iginla is the real deal, but will he show up again this season or take a powder every other year as he has in the past (relative to his ability).  

The Flames entered the last playoff race as a low seed.  Yes, they had a great playoff run, in large part due to Kipper.  See point above and use it for comparison of Anaheim in previous season following their (unsuccessful) cup run.

Sharks #2?  Uuuuuuuh, not convinced here.  They seem old to me.  Some decent additions but if it goes to faster play I think that age is going to factor in. 

Wings, I like the wings.  I think Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Lang are going to make it pretty interesting.  Goaltending seems to remain an issue though. 

As for being a lame Canadian, well, perhaps it's true, perhaps not.  The problem is my prognostication would depend on whether the league enforces its rules or not.  If it does, then I like a lot of the younger teams.  If it does, I see old peckers like Roenick and Tkachunk retiring by Christmas.  I like that notion. 

I'll presume the rules will be marginally enforced.

Eastern (lame name, go back please) Conference
1. Ottawa Senators
2. Tampa Bay Lightning (goaltending has become a question mark)
3. Pittsburgh Penguins
4. Philadelphia Flyers
5. Boston Bruins
6. New Jersey Devils
7. Atlanta Thrashers (if Kovy signs >:(, without, they drop)
8. Carolina as a surprise - yep, still 5000 fans per night :P

Western (blech) Conference
1. Detroit Red Wings
2. Nashville Predators
3. Vancouver Canucks
4. San Jose Sharks
5. Colorado Avalanche
6. Dallas Stars
7. Edmonton Oilers
8. Calgary Flames - who will make the playoffs and lose in the first round :P

And you can figure out the division champs from their relative placements above, I'm going with overall rankings in the conference. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 3, 2005, 09:56 PM
I'm glad Brent gave my mighty Penguins a LITTLE more credit than some of you guys did.   ::)

I guess having the greatest player in the league, Palfy, LeClaire, Recchi, etc., just doesn't cut it with some of you.   :-*

I was at the game last night here (Pens/Caps) and they beat the piss out of the Capitals...  No big feat, I know, especially given that the Caps had like no recognizeable names on their roster really...  But a 7-1 victory feels good nonetheless, and if the team I watched last night is what we deliver this week (and all season) then I'm sure we'll be higher than 8th in the Eastern conference.  I watched a Pens team that looked like they were the 93 team, and it made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

BTW I've been hearing some naysayers on Lemieux again...  I had to remind a buddy of mine that in his last season before his injury he was winning the points race, again, and quite handily.  He had a vicious 1-timer in the game last night that was just so spot-on with his timing, and it was a wickedly hard shot.  He doesn't take shots like that unless he's feeling 100% they say so as a die-hard Lemieux fan I'm just giddy as all getout to be going into the season with him seemingly quite healthy.

I'm just slap happy to have hockey back though, it's been too damn long.

Oh, and the Arena wasn't sold out last night but it had a much heftier crowd than usual for pre-season games I noticed.  I was surprised.  They were into it too, and back to old form...  Applauding guys who fought for control of the puck and kept it in the offensize zone for a long time rather than applauding the hits (not much hitting anyway).  I love this town. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 3, 2005, 10:09 PM
Pittsburgh impresses me.  There are, of course, two big questions: will Lemieux stay healthy and is Crosby for real.

I look at it this way:
1.  Lemieux, unlike Keith Kachunk, actually loves the game and wants to be healthy and fit.  He seems to appreciate something more than the paycheck (cheque for the Canadians) and genuinely loves the game.  I wouldn't have drafted him like Jason did in our draft, I think the risk is too big.  But the upside is huge.  As opposed to some guys in the league, the year off was probably huge for him and he used it.  I hope he stays healthy, but he is, relative to the NHL, old. 

2.  Look, you could put a pylon like me out on the ice with Lemieux and LeClair.  Add Gonchar on the power play and if I had the (lack of) brains to stand in front of the net, I'd be good for 60 points in a year.  Sidney Crosby is no pylon.  I think he's young and his build is maybe going to improve with a couple of years, but this kid is going to get Gretzky-esque no hitting treatment for the most part.  But he's had guys running him already anyway and he'll be good regardless.  I'm not sure he'll pot 100 points in his first season, but he might. 

As with most other teams, I'm not sure how goaltending is going to factor in.  Thibault's dependable, but how dependable we'll have to wait and see.  But I like the team overall and I think there's enough holes on other teams for the Pens to finish high.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 4, 2005, 01:45 AM
D's probably a bigger issue for the Pens than Goaltending at this point, but like I was telling my gf Sunday night (she's not a hockey fan), Thibault's not a cup winner in my eyes...  I really look more at the young guy in Fleury being the possible winner...  Though Thibault played well Sunday, he showed his typical  "oh god" moments in the obligatory shoot-out at the end of the game...  Gave up 2 5-hole goals and the 3rd one he gave up he was pulled out of his shorts on it.  It was sad, and yes it's nothing to judge the guy on, but he's also never had the greatest track record.  Like you said Brent, he's dependable, but he's not the guy I'd think could take them to the finals really and that is worrisome.  I'm thinking ahead (far ahead) of course though.

The D's where I see more of a problem than goaltending though...  We've always been a weak team defensively (even in the cup years), and we still sort of are.  I think we have a young D though and that's positive as the season drags on.

I tell ya what though Brent, watching them last night the LeClaire, Recchi, Crosby line could possibly be one of the most offensively devastating lines in the NHL this season I think (speaking with some bias of course).  They were fluid, spot-on passing, and Crosby looked like a veteran the way he was connecting passes.  He was taking bumps too but he's a speedy little ****, moving in and out of the crease, around the net, through the slot...  He was literally all over the ice a lot of the night.

Lemieux and Palfy on the #1 line (how do you differentiate that though?) was just a thing of beauty.  Seeing Lemieux connect a pass through 2 caps defenders and right on Palfy's tape was just a thing of beauty.  Made the Caps look like a college team and it was just so fluid and smooth.

Lemieux's health scares me but I think he'll be good.  I agree that I think he took the off-year seriously and worked on himself for the next year he knew was likely coming.  He looked so sharp last night, was taking (and giving) hits all night, was winding up on shots (which he never does if he's even remotely unhealthy), and was skating real hard.  He had a ton of icetime too (I don't have specifics but just watching the game I could tell he played a lot of time, and long shifts by my estimations).

I'm so geeked about this season that I'm actually falling into a reactionary depression that I'm just too old to play at any competitive level...  Well I'm not "Old" but my body's not what it was and I know I can't keep up with guys my age and younger who have substantially healthier lives.  It's all I can do to struggle through the weeks as it is much less if I was trying to play again.  I want to so bad though...  I'm gonna settle for shooting the puck around with the kids and getting to as many games as I can afford.  :)

Brent, if you would happen to make a trip to Pittsburgh (one never knows) you gotta head out to a game with me man!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 4, 2005, 10:04 PM
I would love to see a game in Pittsburgh, that would be very cool. 

I just spent some time going through the TSN.ca listings for all the teams and I stick by my guns that I don't see the Sharks being a top three team.  We'll see, but I suppose a lot has to do with the year Nabokov has.

And what was Washington thinking :o  Ovechkin should be good, real good.  The question is who is he going to play with?  Wow.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 5, 2005, 03:33 AM
Rule #1 - always keep your head up when playing against Scott Stevens.   ;)

The following is a little video of the top hits made made by Stevens:

http://www.m90.org/view_image.php?image_id=7795
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on October 5, 2005, 08:49 AM
I just spent some time going through the TSN.ca listings for all the teams and I stick by my guns that I don't see the Sharks being a top three team.  We'll see, but I suppose a lot has to do with the year Nabokov has.

Some people I know are BANKING on Nabokov to have an excellent year...  especially those people who took him in their fantasy hockey league.  :-[
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 5, 2005, 08:05 PM
The thing I don't get is how people see Nashville taking the division over Detroit.  They added Kariya, but what else?  They aren't that deep.  They have speed but a lot of the things that helped them win (the clutch and grab style) won't fly this season.  The rule changes benefit a team like Detroit with tons of talent. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 5, 2005, 08:24 PM
Well, I think the thing people are thinking of with Detroit is age - they have lots of senior guys.  Add that to the expectation of the rules being enforced favoring a fast, open game and folks expect younger Nashville to prosper.  I guess.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 5, 2005, 09:30 PM
Well, I think the thing people are thinking of with Detroit is age - they have lots of senior guys.  Add that to the expectation of the rules being enforced favoring a fast, open game and folks expect younger Nashville to prosper.  I guess.

And Detroit doesn't have speed?  Every year we hear how old Detroit is and they always kick butt.  They are killing the Blues 2nite.  The Blues can't match the pace.  People just love to hate the Wings.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 5, 2005, 10:10 PM
THe blues?  With Keith Tka-chunk?  Where's the surprise in that?   :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on October 5, 2005, 10:57 PM
I thought there weren't going to be tie games anymore? 

I could just be reading something wrong but the ESPN box score for the Ottawa game says it's gone final at 2-2.  What are the actual rules now?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore?gid=2005100521
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 5, 2005, 11:09 PM
You're just slightly too quick on the draw.  It lists Ottawa as a 3-2 winner.  Overtime then shootouts??
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on October 5, 2005, 11:17 PM
Yeah, I see that now - the ESPN boxscore must have been jacked up.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 5, 2005, 11:44 PM
If I'm not mistaken it goes OT, Shoot-out, and back to OT if necessary...  *shrugs*

Pens got spanked, that sucked.  They had the Devils number early and should've won that game but didn't capitalize.  Crosby played pretty great though overall as did some others, but once they let Brodeur beat them mentally he just handled the game smoothly the rest of the night and they were lucky to get that one goal much less what they needed to tie it up.

Lots of penalties and I for one am glad...  As feared though our D and goaltending are our weak points, at least judging by tonight's game.  The O did everything right but crash the net/park someone in front...  They were explosive and pounding NJ with shots but just didn't get it done and it bit them in the ass ultimately.  A thoroughly disappointing loss for me. :(  Oh well, Canes on Friday.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 6, 2005, 12:01 AM
Kings sure blew it 2nite.  4-0 lead...5-4 loss.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 6, 2005, 12:51 AM
Oh man...  There's a kick in the ding-ding.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 6, 2005, 03:18 AM
I went to the Nine Inch Nails concert so I missed the Avs game, but I'm catching the replay now. Our local sports network (it is owned by the owner of the As and Nuggets), change their play by play  announcer, I hate the new guy. It seems like a pretty good game so far. I watched some of the Fliers game earlier, it is so bizzarre seing Peter the Great in a different uniform. :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on October 6, 2005, 11:14 AM
Preds game was a blast last night, and San Jose certainly didn't look like a top three team to me. Kariya and Sullivan electrified the building every time they were on the ice.

To answer Jason's question on what Nashville did besides adding Kariya, they beefed up their D by adding Markov and now have the ability to win faceoffs thanks to Yanic. More importantly, several of our first round picks are coming of age this year, and coupled with having Sullivan for an entire season as opposed to 20-odd games, there's plenty to be excited about in Nashville.

I haven't made my playoff predictions yet, but I'm taking the Preds over the Wings in our division. Somebody here has to  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 7, 2005, 10:12 AM
Look out.  Wings are 2-0 and have already scored 9 goals.  Their special teams are playing awesome.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 9, 2005, 03:49 AM
Talk about a roller coaster ride for myself tonight.  I found out the Bruins are playing in Calgary on Dec 17th (a quick 4 hour drive away) thanks to the heads up from my mother-in-law that lives in Calgary.  Seeing the Bruins has always been a dream of mine!

I was so excited and went to go buy tickets online tonight, but the game is already sold out.  Can you believe it?  2 months away and sold out already.   :'(

I may have to try and buy a Calgary newspaper once in a while and see if I can get a couple tickets from people selling theirs.   :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 9, 2005, 03:53 AM
I missed the pens tonight but I heard Boston came back on us and the Pens lost one that was simply theirs to lose. 

And that's our 2nd OT loss too, which blows.  Our goaltending is just attrocious and I'm pissed we aren't putting Fleury back in over Thibault at this point.  It was a joke that he got starter over a guy that basically carried the Pens in their last season with his goaltending, young or not.  I'd be starting him next game after an 0-3 start by Thibault, be damned how old he is or what he thinks he should be doing.  He should realize he wasn't our first choice anyway and be playing harder than he is.

Nice to see (highlights) Crosby get his first goal though.  The city's already buzzing outside the hockey fans about this kid, and the asinine local sports guys are all now talking about him.  What a bunch of tools those guys are.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on October 9, 2005, 04:02 AM
I may have to try and buy a Calgary newspaper once in a while and see if I can get a couple tickets from people selling theirs.   :-\

Calgary Herald (http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/index.html)

I don't think there will be much in the Calgary Sun.  :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 9, 2005, 06:05 PM


 Our goaltending is just attrocious and I'm pissed we aren't putting Fleury back in over Thibault at this point.  It was a joke that he got starter over a guy that basically carried the Pens in their last season with his goaltending, young or not.  I'd be starting him next game after an 0-3 start by Thibault, be damned how old he is or what he thinks he should be doing.  He should realize he wasn't our first choice anyway and be playing harder than he is.


It would appear Pens management heard your cry, Jesse (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=cp-nhl_penguins_goalie&prov=cp&type=lgns)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 9, 2005, 06:25 PM
Thank god someone listens to me.  Now I need to get to Hasbro...  Hmmm.

Edit: Don't mind that severely bruised knee in practice stuff.  I shot him with a ninja dart on the way to practice, that's why Thibault's out.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 9, 2005, 06:46 PM
Wings whoop the Flames 6-3 to move to 3-0!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 9, 2005, 11:04 PM
Wings whoop the Flames 6-3 to move to 3-0!

I'm liking the Flames, I have at least one Flame in each pool, usually two ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 10, 2005, 10:55 PM
The Avs are playing dirt nasty tonight. 6-1 at the end of the 2nd period. The rookiees are playing extremely well, Marek Svatos already has a 3pt night. I'm a little disapointed they lost the shut-out, but a blow out is equally as exciting. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 10, 2005, 11:01 PM
Wings looked very sluggish tonite.  They didn't even put up a fight.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 10, 2005, 11:02 PM
Wings looked very sluggish tonite.  They didn't even put up a fight.

Good. :)

November 23 Wings vs Avs, I can't wait.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 11, 2005, 09:13 PM
Wings looked very sluggish tonite.  They didn't even put up a fight.
November 23 Wings vs Avs, I can't wait.

Amen.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 13, 2005, 12:30 AM
Ugggh. The Avs blew it tonight. They were up 3-0 in the second and lost 5-4. Svatos has been amazing this season, it's too bad his 2nd goal got called back tonight, it should have been a goal, but it was such a close call I guess I can see why they called it the way they did.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on October 13, 2005, 11:41 AM
How 'bout them Preds huh!  ;D

Sure is nice to be undefeated, Kariya/Sullivan is one hell of a duo so far!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 14, 2005, 05:10 PM
Wings spanked the Kings last nite.  My girlfriend's first hockey game and the Wings win, very cool.  We sat around a bunch of Wings fans so it was great.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 15, 2005, 11:06 PM
Wings spanked the Kings last nite.  My girlfriend's first hockey game and the Wings win, very cool.  We sat around a bunch of Wings fans so it was great.

That's cuz there are no Kings fans in LA.   :-*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on October 16, 2005, 01:35 PM
Goodbye, Mr. Hull.   :'(

I'm sure a few more will follow you by the end of the year...  :(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 16, 2005, 01:45 PM
Roenick. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on October 16, 2005, 04:15 PM
Very, very sad to see Brett Hull retire.  Far and away he has been my favorite player and was in my opinion the best thing that hockey had going for it the past 15 years.  Wonderful goal scorer and the most entertaining athlete I've ever seen.

You will be missed Mr. Hull, thank you for the wonderful memories that I will always cherish!

 :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 16, 2005, 06:58 PM
That was crazy news that he had retired.  I turned on the Wings broadcast just in time to see Hullie at the podium announcing it.  Pretty sad.  If not for a lost season, he'd still be playing and chasing Gordie.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on October 16, 2005, 07:19 PM
I agree.  The year off, as well as the changes in the league resulted in his retirment this season...  He still had one hell of a career.  Crazy news, and a let down... he will truly be missed.

 :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 18, 2005, 03:12 AM
Goodbye, Mr. Hull.   :'(

I'm sure a few more will follow you by the end of the year...  :(

I'm thinking Lemieux's done after this season too...  Not that he doesn't have it in him obviously, but I think he's really wanting to get out and be with his family.  Though the rules changes, if this holds, is maybe enough to keep him in it...  I dunno.  It's what he's wanted for ages.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 18, 2005, 04:10 AM
I think the lockout turned out to be a good thing for Sakic. He had been playing hurt a lot over the last few years and was having a hard time staying healthy. He said that with the year off he feels like he is in the best shape he has been in and has a few years left in him, which is great cause I'm not ready to see him retire too.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on October 18, 2005, 11:22 AM
I think Hull could have stuck it out and had a decent season, but not by the standards he sets for himself.  He could have contributed and maybe hit 20-25 goals, but I don't think he could have hit 70 or more points like he is used to doing.  Maybe about 40-50 points.  And the Coyotes are just a bad team... he needs talent at his age on his line to support him.  If he was still on Detroit, I think he would have finished this season and maybe played next  year too.

Lemieux is probably done after this season... I'd like to see Sakic play a little longer too.

 :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 18, 2005, 11:43 AM
Wings win in OT to improve to 6-1.  Loving these new rules.   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on October 18, 2005, 04:00 PM
I wish Hull was still with the Wings.  He'd still be playing!

 :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on October 18, 2005, 09:00 PM
A big night here in Edmonton as Wayne Gretzky makes his first appearance here as the Coyotes' coach. To top it off, there are paying tribute to #7 Paul Coffey as they retire his jersey at this sold out game. Will Mark Messier show up, what will Wayne have in store for Paul? Have to wait till the news comes on.  :-\

Coffey played 21 seasons in the NHL, winning four Stanley Cups and three Norris trophies as one of the best defensemen in league history. His 209 goals, 460 assists and 669 points with Edmonton are all good for fifth on the team's all-time lists.

Coffey's number will be the fifth retired by Edmonton, joining Al Hamilton #3, Jari Kurri #17, Grant Fuhr #31 and Gretzky #99.

Damn, just reading those names brings back a lot of memories of the dynasty years.  8)

The boys are back in town!  :)

Wish I was there to see this.  :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 18, 2005, 09:33 PM
A big night here in Edmonton as Wayne Gretzky makes his first appearance here as the Coyotes' coach. To top it off, there are paying tribute to #7 Paul Coffey as they retire his jersey at this sold out game. Will Mark Messier show up, what will Wayne have in store for Paul? Have to wait till the news comes on.  :-\

Coffey played 21 seasons in the NHL, winning four Stanley Cups and three Norris trophies as one of the best defensemen in league history. His 209 goals, 460 assists and 669 points with Edmonton are all good for fifth on the team's all-time lists.

Coffey's number will be the fifth retired by Edmonton, joining Al Hamilton #3, Jari Kurri #17, Grant Fuhr #31 and Gretzky #99.

Damn, just reading those names brings back a lot of memories of the dynasty years.  8)

The boys are back in town!  :)

Wish I was there to see this.  :'(

I'm watching it right now.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on October 18, 2005, 09:43 PM
I'm watching it right now.

I found a station that is playing the game, watching it too.  8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on October 19, 2005, 05:03 PM
Preds are all the way up to #2 in several of the Power Rankings I checked out today!! This is exciting stuff!

My company has a corporate box at the GEC, and I scored tickets to use it tomorrow for the game against the Blues. Can't wait!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 20, 2005, 02:52 AM
The Avs are KILLING me. The have blown two 3pt leads in the last three games and haven't even made in to OT so they could at least get 1pt out of it.  :'( >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 20, 2005, 03:44 AM
The Avs are KILLING me. The have blown two 3pt leads in the last three games and haven't even made in to OT so they could at least get 1pt out of it.  :'( >:(

Nothing makes me happier than seeing the Wings kicking ass and the Avs sucking it.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on October 20, 2005, 11:18 AM
This year is a really strange year...

The Wild are #5 in Goals Scored per game and #2 in Goals Against in the NHL.

The Wild also have both the #1 Power Play AND the #1 Penalty Kill in the NHL.   :o

Who would have guessed the Wild would end up with a "high-powered" offense?   :P

Granted, we're only about 10% of the way into the year, but it's a decent start so far!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 20, 2005, 01:42 PM
This year is a really strange year...

The Wild are #5 in Goals Scored per game and #2 in Goals Against in the NHL.

The Wild also have both the #1 Power Play AND the #1 Penalty Kill in the NHL.   :o

Who would have guessed the Wild would end up with a "high-powered" offense?   :P

Granted, we're only about 10% of the way into the year, but it's a decent start so far!

Yet they can't score on the road.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on October 20, 2005, 01:54 PM
Yet they can't score on the road.

Yeah, 0-1-1 on the road, 4-1-0 at home.

The loss was the Phoenix home opener, the tie vs. LA.  Maybe they can move past that little bump now?  :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 20, 2005, 04:52 PM
Yeah, 0-1-1 on the road, 4-1-0 at home.

The loss was the Phoenix home opener, the tie vs. LA.  Maybe they can move past that little bump now?  :-\

Tie, or shootout loss? ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 20, 2005, 09:42 PM
More bad news for the Avs?  Avs decline next year's options on Sakic and Blake. 

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/news_story/?ID=140342&hubname=nhl-avalanche
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 21, 2005, 12:05 AM
There have been rumors of Sakic leaving before. I think they'll both resign. If not I will personally go stomp on Piere Lacroix's balls with a pair of track spikes, then throw and handfull of nickels at his face. >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 21, 2005, 09:18 PM
There have been rumors of Sakic leaving before. I think they'll both resign. If not I will personally go stomp on Piere Lacroix's balls with a pair of track spikes, then throw and handfull of nickels at his face. >:(

I don't see Blake coming back.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 21, 2005, 11:29 PM
Avs played one hell of a game tonight, it's too bad they let that one slip by Abby, I'd have liked to see the shutout. It was great to see Hejduk back.

Hey Jesse how Pens doin' this year?  ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 22, 2005, 01:53 PM
Wings improve to 7-1.  Man, if not for that hiccup against the Canucks, they'd be undefeated. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 22, 2005, 07:52 PM
Jason Williams with a FIRST PERIOD hat trick!!  4-0 Wings after 1!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 22, 2005, 10:15 PM
It's a good thing they can do that to a team as good as Columbus...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on October 22, 2005, 10:25 PM
More bad news for the Avs?  Avs decline next year's options on Sakic and Blake.

I love Sakic - he's my favorite NHL player, playing on my second favorite team, and I'd hate to see the Av's lose him next year.

That said, I'd love to see him wearing a Rangers jersey sometime in 2006. It would be the only way I wouldn't be seriously pissed about the Av's losing him.   :P

I was shocked when they let Forsberg go. Big mistake IMO.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 22, 2005, 11:59 PM
More bad news for the Avs? Avs decline next year's options on Sakic and Blake.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/news_story/?ID=140342&hubname=nhl-avalanche

That is actually not as bad as it sounds. The Avs still have the rights to them and acan resign them, it is just how things are going to work in the new league with cap restrictions. This frees up almost $700,000 for the Avs this year, so they have room to make a good tade or two. I don't see Skic leaving or Blake either for that matter, I think bith guys are really happy here and, short being traded, they are going to finish their careers in CO.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 23, 2005, 12:29 AM
The Avs almost had an amazing comeback. hey were down 5-1 with like 4minutes left, the Avs scored 2 goals in 17 seconds to make it 5-3 and then got a PPG with about a minute left to make it 5-4. They couldn't quite pull it off in the end though, I give them a whole lot of credit for staying in though.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 23, 2005, 02:04 PM
It's a good thing they can do that to a team as good as Columbus...

Jealous much?   ;) 

Wings improve to 8-1 and just rollin along!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 24, 2005, 12:55 AM
Strange scheduling quirk.  Anyone else see that the Wings played the Jackets in Columbus yesterday and play the Jackets again tomorrow...in Columbus?  Can't say I've ever seen that during the regular season.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 24, 2005, 01:20 AM
Ryan...

Dude, you can't imagine how the Pens fans are feeling.  Watching some of the weekly sports shows tonight, all the reporters are BIGTIME down on the Pens because they've got such glaringly obvious problems they just didn't, or won't address.

-Goaltending was my prediction for the team's downfall prior to the season starting, and I fear it all came horribly true... 

-A close second is a Defense (and defensive mindset) that is just piss poor.  The Pens are playing like they thought D would go out the window, which they've done in the past but which they should've been smarter than this.

-Overall coaching/team management...  I love Eddie O as a coach because I think he's a good guy and could be a great coach, but he's got no control on this team I'm afraid.  I think they got guys like Gonchar in and they're being defiant on the ice as to what they NEED to be doing.  Eddie O's gotta take some blame for where they are right now.

Ironically they've made ok points by getting into OT (but never winning it), so they're not incapable of turning the season around being so early yet and still having SOMETHING to show for what they did do right...  But if they don't address some **** and do so right quickly they'll not make the playoffs.  Goaltending is my biggest gripe all around and I think the team is just floundering around trying to figure out what to do.  They don't have one solid goalie, and Fleury (my choice) is so rattled by being basically ousted for Thibault that I think he's not gonna come back the same guy from WIlkes Barre if/when they do move him up.  He's not shown that goaltending that kept them in the game some their last season.

The D's a very close second though and I'd be unloading Gonchar at this stage of the game for some people who actually play D...  he sure as hell is not doing so 99% of the time and he's the guy who I think is telling the coaches to go F themselves because he "plays his own way".  We rid ourselves of that attitude with Nedved and Jagr, it'd be nice NOT to bring it back to the lockerroom.

Eddie O just needs to grow nuts and stop being everyone's pal on the Ice...  He needs Herbie's ghost to come snap his ass in gear on that.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 24, 2005, 08:59 PM
I think most everyone figured that the Pens would suffer for those reasons.  Just because the game has opened up doesn't mean you don't have to play D and you MUST have strong goaltending.  Hopefully they get it going. 

Wings up 5-2 after 2 and looking strong yet again.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 24, 2005, 09:35 PM
Wings put up 6 more on the Jackets and are now 9-1!!! 

Ottawa blows a 2 goal lead and loses their first game of the season to Carolina.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 24, 2005, 10:03 PM
Strange scheduling quirk.  Anyone else see that the Wings played the Jackets in Columbus yesterday and play the Jackets again tomorrow...in Columbus?  Can't say I've ever seen that during the regular season.

I think that's the oddest part of the schedule.  The league seems to think that scheduling changes were necessary and I disagree.  Within divisions teams are playing each other too much.  Yeah, it's great for the big rivalries: Boston-Montreal; Calgary-Edmonton; Toronto-Ottawa.  But who the hell wants to see so many games between Detroit-Columbus or Ananheim LA?  That's dumb. 


-A close second is a Defense (and defensive mindset) that is just piss poor. The Pens are playing like they thought D would go out the window, which they've done in the past but which they should've been smarter than this.


The D's a very close second though and I'd be unloading Gonchar at this stage of the game for some people who actually play D... he sure as hell is not doing so 99% of the time and he's the guy who I think is telling the coaches to go F themselves because he "plays his own way". We rid ourselves of that attitude with Nedved and Jagr, it'd be nice NOT to bring it back to the lockerroom.


Having selected Gonchar so early in the draft, I'm more than a little disappointed.  Surprised too as I've never really thought of him as an overly productive defensive defenseman.  He's always been a scorer and should at least be potting points on the powerplay if nowhere else.  It's too early to dump him, but I sure can understand the desire to.  But Gonchar shouldn't have been brought in to lead the D for anything other than offense.  He's always been about scoring so the coaching and management should have known that.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 24, 2005, 11:21 PM
Here you go Brent.  Small article regarding the new "mini series" featured in this year's schedule:

http://www.freep.com/sports/redwings/wcorn22e_200510224.htm
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 25, 2005, 01:18 PM
Yep, I can see the logic behind it.  And I can understand that it can build rivalries.  But I still see some potential problems.  LA vs Anaheim two nights in a row?  Islanders vs Rangers two nights in a row?  Especially if one team sucks caca?  Potential recipe for success in creating rivalries but also potential for crapping out attendance.  Oh look, the Wings have outscored the Blue Jackets 75-3 in the first seven games this season, let's go to the last matchup here in Columbus cuz I think the Jackets are ripe for a win.  That's fine if you're a Wings fan in Columbus but maybe not so good if you're one of the 5000 Blue Jackets fans in the world :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on October 25, 2005, 02:15 PM
So how 'bout them Predators being the only undefeated team in the league?

...and how 'bout that still only put 12,000 butts in the seats on Saturday  >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on October 25, 2005, 02:23 PM
Yep, I can see the logic behind it.  And I can understand that it can build rivalries.  But I still see some potential problems. 

You mean like how with tonights game, the Wild have played THREE home games against Vancouver in the last 2 weeks?

The schedule is really weird this year for sure.  Some teams get spread out evenly (Calgary/Colorado) while others get lumped together (I think we have 4 games against Edmonton in a 2 week spread in March).

Doesn't seem like there is any rhyme or reason (unless you want to get all conspiracy-theory).   :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on October 25, 2005, 02:41 PM
...and how 'bout that still only put 12,000 butts in the seats on Saturday  >:(

Cool, just about the same attendance figure as when the Jets set the record for most consecutive games without a win (33 I think).  I believe we only had about 8 wins that season (lots of ties) but we averaged around 12,500 in attendance.  Go Preds ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 26, 2005, 03:01 AM
The thing with Gonchar though is that he (this is rumor, but from a good Pens reporter around the city) is giving a big "F You" when the coaching staff's asked him to step up his defensive play...  I guess he's being indignant about being asked to try helping clear the zone, clear the crease, etc...  Like he doesn't get that he ISN'T an offense guy at all and that he has to have SOME skill at clearing his own zone... 

I'm a firm believer in offensive defensemen on every team, especially since the Pens haven't had too much there since Larry Murphy took off...  But usually they have some defensive ability.  Kind of like 3rd line muck & grinder offensive players.    Murphy was like that...  He'd be a great help putting points on the board, he was way underappreciated on the PP, and yet he was a guy you could count on to get his **** together and get the team BACK on offense quickly.  Paired with Ulf Sammuelson, he was great because you had the best of both worlds with the two...

Gonchar though just seems to give up the puck so much and I mean really stupid **** too.  Clearing attempts out the middle, never using the boards, takes weak hits like they're open-ice checks from goons...  He's turning out to be, simply, a *****.  It's frustrating as **** to be a Pens fan right now.  We have so much offensive talent and a lot of it's not getting much time because we're on the defensive most of the game, and taking it up the poop shoot from even weak offenses because our D sucks and our Goaltending is weak at best.

And every time they toss Fleury down to Wilkes-Barre he just gets more and more demoralized.  The kid that was here last season is seemingly long gone and the Pens have no desire to find him.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on October 26, 2005, 03:04 AM
Looked like another good game in Nashvile tonight. The Avs had a nice little comeback win too. Now they move on to a big weekend with back to back games against Vancouver. It should be a real good series.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 26, 2005, 12:53 PM
Your Preds are testing me Pearman!!   >:(

JK dude.  Gonna make for an exciting 8 games between my Wings and your Preds.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 26, 2005, 10:25 PM
The Devils are in BIG trouble.  I watched the last half of the game and saw Brodeur go down with an apparent knee or groin injury, but of course NJ is being very guarded with info about him.

The game was not what I expected from the Devils.  As soon as Tampa went up 4-3, NJ lost all interest in playing and gave up more turnovers in their own end then they should in a month.  Painful at times to watch.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on October 26, 2005, 10:37 PM
I wish I could get some of these freaking games on TV... 
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Post by: Jeff on October 26, 2005, 10:43 PM
I wish I could get some of these freaking games on TV... 

Get Cable TV!

http://www.olntv.com/nw/article/view/1367/?tf=NHLTVSchedule.tpl

Tampa Bay has a couple appearances scheduled for November...

I've checked out a couple games so far.  It's not ESPN quality yet, but I think there is just a learning curve and it's going to take a few games to get up to speed on things.  :)
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Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 26, 2005, 10:45 PM
I wish I could get some of these freaking games on TV... 

Get Cable TV!

http://www.olntv.com/nw/article/view/1367/?tf=NHLTVSchedule.tpl

Tampa Bay has a couple appearances scheduled for November...

I've checked out a couple games so far.  It's not ESPN quality yet, but I think there is just a learning curve and it's going to take a few games to get up to speed on things.  :)

I got the extended package on my cable to get OLN.  They broadcasts have been alright.  The intermission studio stuff needs work.  I watched the Wings/Jackets game the other night and didn't have any complaints really.
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Post by: Ryan on October 26, 2005, 11:12 PM
I'm not a fan of OLN's coverage. They never seem to have hockey on either. I wish ESPN would have just renewed the damn contract.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on October 26, 2005, 11:16 PM
I'm gonna do some checking to see what I have to do to add OLN to my service.

There's also the distinct possibility that I already have it - dallas is a ****hole when it comes to Cable, I have two cable jacks in the wall, two cables run out of them, and into a splitter - so I have A channels and B channels.  It sucks (from a lazy t.v. watcher point of view that is) so I almost never switch over to B - so, I don't get half of the channels I should have access to on a regular basis.

I'm going to look now...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Wompus on October 26, 2005, 11:26 PM
OLN only has two games a week.
Monday and Tuesday nights.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on October 27, 2005, 05:59 PM
Turns out OLN is only available in my area through Digital Cable, which I don't have - we're currently attempting to get Satellites on the roof of my condo building - so once that is done I should be able to get direct TV and then hopefully get it through that.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 27, 2005, 09:51 PM
The Captain w/ his 1st point and Manny Legace sets the record for wins by a goaltender in October with 10 as the Wings win 5-2 to move to 10-1!!   ;D
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Post by: Mikey D on October 28, 2005, 11:24 AM
Manny Legace sets the record for wins by a goaltender in October with 10 as the Wings win 5-2 to move to 10-1!!   ;D

Best free agent draft pick ever  ;D
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Post by: Jesse James on October 28, 2005, 06:55 PM
Pens finally won one, but goaltending wasn't good still.  Atlanta's was just worse.  It's been a disappointing season in PIttsburgh so far but hopefully the win helps turn some things around.  Without solid goaltending we're in for many ass whippings though so I'd be looking to deal someone for a goalie asap.
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Post by: Ryan on October 30, 2005, 12:42 AM
What a game in CO tonight. I was jumping out of my seat I was so ******* happy when Laperriere had the game-winner in OT. It was beautiful. Hopefully Cloutier is ok, he took a really hard shot early in the 1st.
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Post by: Jesse James on October 30, 2005, 03:29 AM
Pens game tonight was dismal.  They had the canes number most of the game then pissed it all away in the 3rd.  Totally asinine moves and decisions. 

The positive is that  the goaltending was NOT to blame and Sebastian Carone (I can't even spell his name) held his **** together.  The game that tied it was actually Lemieux and Crosby's fault for a stick tip and a screen.

The good thing though, was sitting in a bar tonight and seeing that all the college ball got turned for the game.  Pittsburgh's back to being into hockey even with a losing team.
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Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 2, 2005, 02:21 AM
Wings win yet again but Legace hurt in the game.  Hopefully it isn't serious.
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Post by: DSJ™ on November 2, 2005, 02:26 AM
Whoa! Oilers won again tonight, 3 games in a row.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 2, 2005, 03:18 AM
Whoa! Oilers won again tonight, 3 games in a row.

Our 9 trumps your 3.   ;)
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Post by: DSJ™ on November 2, 2005, 03:24 AM
Whoa! Oilers won again tonight, 3 games in a row.

Our 9 trumps your 3.   ;)

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Kubricks/NannerNanner2.gif)   ;D   ;)
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Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 3, 2005, 01:34 PM
Sad story:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2212397
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Post by: JesseVader08 on November 3, 2005, 02:00 PM
Amazing that he could accomplish everything he did in his hockey career.  Absolutely amazing.
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Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2005, 10:37 AM
Went to the game last night to see the Wild get whipped on by Phoenix (who had 3 goals on 6 shots in the first 9 minutes :().

It was funny to see 99 all dressed up in a suit behind the bench... he even got a big cheer when they announced him - of course former gopher Keith Ballard got an even louder cheer when they announced him.   ;)

So, for the record, I've now seen two games:

vs. Vancouver - LOSS
vs. Phoenix - LOSS

I'm 0-2 so far this year.   :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on November 11, 2005, 02:10 AM
Pens had a good night and a win during a shoot-out tonight.  They've picked it up and had a good roadtrip including some hardfought wins like the one with the Rangers.

The Montreal Game tonight showed good goaltending though and that was a MAJOR plus.  We've been all over the place so a good performance from Thibault will be good for them...  Plus a win in OT isn't shabby either given our like 1 and 5 record in OT I think.  Crosby top-shelfed it after Thibault stonewalled Montreal...  He was hopping all over the ice.  He's been a major hit in Pittsburgh.  You see as many Crosby shirts as you used to see for Jagr around here.  :)  I love it!  Once he gets some size to him, Crosby's going to be a major MAJOR threat.  As it is, he's small and he's a threat.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on November 11, 2005, 03:48 PM
How about them Blues!  10 losses in a row!   ;D

 :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on November 11, 2005, 06:50 PM
I think the Bolts are at 5 or 6 now...  :-X
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 11, 2005, 08:27 PM
Not at all surprised by St. Louis' play.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on November 12, 2005, 12:19 AM
Martin or Missouri?   ;)
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Post by: Morgbug on November 12, 2005, 12:23 AM
Not at all surprised by St. Louis' play.

Might be symptomatic of their captain, Mr. Tkachunk.  I liked him the first three years in the league when he was playing here.  I vividly recall him nailing Lindros when the Flyers were in town, setting the tone for the entire game.  

He and Selanne came into the league at the same time for the Jets and their contracts came up at the same time.  Tkachuk held out until his salary was settled, Selanne came into camp without a contract and was ready for the season when it started.  That speaks volumes about the types of players they both are.  I was devastated to see Selanne traded and Tkachuk stay.  

But what can you expect out of the Blues when the captain rolls into camp to get suspended for being fat ::)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 13, 2005, 12:20 AM
Kovalchuk is on fire!  2 more goals tonite as they killed Carolina 9-0. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on November 13, 2005, 12:55 AM
I've been waiting.  Patiently. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 14, 2005, 12:02 PM
Wings lose to the Canucks again.  I was thoroughly unimpressed with the Wings play after the Canucks tied the score but good God did the Canucks get away with some cheap play last night.  It started looking like 2 years ago all over again.  They got away with so much it wasn't even funny.
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Post by: Morgbug on November 14, 2005, 12:32 PM
And Bertuzzi without any PIM ::)  Sure, he had a hattrick, but I need penalty minutes in my spawn.com pool.  My goon squad has been far too well behaved and Bertuzzi's been a ***** this year. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 14, 2005, 12:56 PM
Bertuzzi's been a ***** this year. 

I bet Bertuzzi's trying to be pretty damn careful after his incident
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 15, 2005, 06:33 PM
The Ducks just traded Fedorov to Columbus!  I just called my buddy Todd who works for the Ducks to confirm. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on November 15, 2005, 07:20 PM
Who'd they get for him?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 15, 2005, 07:36 PM
Who'd they get for him?

Nobody!  Tyler Wright and some Dman.  It was a salary dump, plain and simple.  Burke always hated Fedorov and wants to make the team faster.  Not sure who he's gonna be able to get this season.  Rumor is Giguere is next.
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Post by: Morgbug on November 15, 2005, 08:40 PM
Click for details (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/preview?gid=2005111629&prov=ap)  Jason's right, not much there :o
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Post by: jokabofe on November 15, 2005, 10:38 PM
Damn, the Rangers have just as many nobody's and I'm sure they would have been more than happy to give up two to Federov on the team. I'd love to see Federov on a line with Nylander and Jagr.
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Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2005, 11:29 PM
Nice night for the Pens!  Beating up our state rivals the Fliers in a BRUTAL game.  Lots of fighting/shoving.  Hard hitting game typical of Philly.  Crosby was beat around in the game, especially by Hatcher, but Crosby wound up winning it in OT on a breakaway.  If you guys are following him at all, this kid is the real deal all the way...  He's a marvel to watch him play, he's feisty as **** for his size, and he's REALLY fast (something Lemieux didn't have).

Mario's forever in my heart my favorite athlete ever.  He was why I played hockey, he's why I still want to play hockey despite my age/physical health, and he's forever my favorite Penguin on or off the ice...  But damn I like Crosby. :)  He really took charge tonight, and every time he was on the ice after his penalty, he was just electric.  Anyone who can do that at will is a superstar.

I love watching him mix it up with big vets too.  He wasn't taking **** from Hatcher and that is something that you have to respect as a player.  All the bigger Crosby is and he still is giving the finger to the big arrogant D of the league.  Nice.
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Post by: Morgbug on November 18, 2005, 02:10 PM
Smart kid.  Not sure how much you remember about Selanne, but he was pretty tough as a rookie too.  In his second season they tried to get him to play more of a finesse game and it cost him and the team both.  Selanne loved to hit, especially for a skill player, and that's a big part of the reason he scored so much as a rookie, he'd mix it up.  Crosby's been impressive, no doubt.  Can't quite say the same about the Pens on the whole though. ;)
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Post by: Mikey D on November 18, 2005, 02:23 PM
Nice night for the Pens! 

 >:(

Beating up our state rivals the Fliers in a BRUTAL game.

 >:(

Psst - Flyers  :P

And it pains me to see John LeClair in another uniform  >:(
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Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 21, 2005, 09:13 PM
God what a scary scene at the Joe tonite.  Jiri Fischer suffered a seizure on the bench.  Players were frantic trying to get medical assistance to him.  I dropped the remote and was absolutely scared to death when I saw what was going on and then saw the team physicians doing CPR on him.  I thought he was dead.  Man that was awful.  They just showed some video of the area of the bench where he was and it looked as if he was already seizing and his head was basically being propped up by the boards. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on November 21, 2005, 09:23 PM
NHL.com says that there was speculation that he was hit in the throat with a puck and then collapsed.  You're thinking it was a seizure?



Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on November 21, 2005, 09:34 PM
ESPN says he's going to be okay - and they're saying Seizure as well.

Quote
Team spokesman John Hahn said Fischer was taken to Detroit Receiving Hospital and was stable, breathing on his own and responsive.

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on November 21, 2005, 10:14 PM
Canadian news is saying it was a seizure as well.  He is currently listed in stable condition at the hospital.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on November 21, 2005, 10:22 PM
Forgive me for asking - but what happens fantasy wise with the stats?  Is the whole game scrapped?  Do they pick it up later?  Does it count as a game played? 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on November 21, 2005, 10:35 PM
My understanding is the game is cancelled meaning stats that were accrued don't exist.  The game is supposed to be rescheduled.
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Post by: Jesse James on November 22, 2005, 12:04 AM
Nice night for the Pens! 

 >:(

Beating up our state rivals the Fliers in a BRUTAL game.

 >:(

Psst - Flyers  :P

And it pains me to see John LeClair in another uniform  >:(

Oh it's just Philly nobody cares how you spell it.  ;)

Actually after I wrote that I wondered if I had spelled it right or not, haha...  So thanks for letting me no that it was NOT right.

The fans in Pitt aren't all happy with LeClair either...  Or Recchi.  Neither have had take charge games here yet, and they have played mediocre.  Palffy seems like he's borderline ready to have a game he dominates.  He played good Saturday so I'm hoping...  But so far the O has been mostly coming from Crosby, Christansen, and Lemieux...  LeClair and Recchi are due for a HUGE game between the two of them so I'm hoping for that...

And people are up in arms that Fleury was sent down to the minors over nothing more than a financial issue.  Much swearing was heard upon that news last week. ::)
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Post by: Jesse James on November 23, 2005, 04:33 AM
The Pens/Caps game was a treat to watch tonight incase any of you caught it that have league packages or whatever... 

I was a little disappointed by the play of some the Pens especially our continuing issues with Goaltending even though Coran weathered a heavy 2-man disadvantage, and overall 41 shots on goal.  Still he let up 2 softies that led to a near comeback by the Caps.

The gameplay was a treat though to say the least...  Lots of end-to-end hockey, lots of hard hitting, lots of scrapping, and 2 amazing superstars in the making.  Crosby had his greatest goal of his career too and an assist that was equally beautiful.

As a Pens fan I hope Lemieux gets back in gear (I think he's  still not 100% healthwise), and that LeClair/Recchi kick it up a notch because they're desperately needed to produce as a means of offsetting our goaltending problems.

Great game though, and wish I'd had tickets to that one.  :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on November 23, 2005, 06:56 AM
The Avs and the Wings renew one of the greatest rivalries in sports tonight. I can't wait. I've been looking forward to this game from the first day I looked at the schedule. It should be a great one.  :)
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Post by: Jeff on November 23, 2005, 12:03 PM
The Avs and the Wings renew one of the greatest rivalries in sports tonight. I can't wait. I've been looking forward to this game from the first day I looked at the schedule. It should be a great one.  :)

Hopefully the Wings can put up a good fight...

You'd have to imagine they will either come out flat because their thoughts are someplace else (Fischer) or they'll come out with all guns blazing looking to take their minds off the last game.

Either way, it will be interesting to see how the Wings respond to everything that has happened over the last few nights.
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Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 23, 2005, 10:32 PM
They came out with guns blazing, as I knew they would, and opened a can on the Avs!  God I love it when we beat Colorado!   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2005, 02:27 AM
They came out with guns blazing, as I knew they would, and opened a can on the Avs!  God I love it when we beat Colorado!   ;D

They caught a couple lucky breaks, the Avs dinged a few off the posts. I knew it was going to be a longshot when they blew that 5-3 PP though. :-\

Oh well, we've still got 3 more games and chances are always good we'll see you in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on November 26, 2005, 12:58 AM
I think that whoever makes the schedules should be drawn and quartered. This is the most ridiculous thing ever. How can some teams (NYRangers, Phoenix, Calgary, Tampa Bay) have 24-25 games played, while others (Philadelphia, New Jersey, Carolina, Chicago) have 21-22 and Ottawa has only 19?? It's crazy that teams have such uneven schedules. This doesn't happen in Baseball or Basketball. Teams may end up with 1 or 2 games more than another at one time during the season due to rain outs or whatever, but a 6 game difference between the NYRangers and Ottawa is crazy.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on November 26, 2005, 05:42 AM
The Avs only have about 19 too, they had a really soft Oct-November, now the hardly get a break for awhile.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 29, 2005, 04:39 PM
Figures that I had to work and couldn't make the Kings/Wings game last night and the Wings won 5-2.   >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on November 30, 2005, 11:10 PM
This is a little old but I figured I'd post it here since no one has yet. Thornton was traded from Boston to San Jose for Sturm, Stewart, and Primeau. I think this could be the boost the Sharks need. I rather enjoy them being in 12th place though.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 30, 2005, 11:37 PM
 >:(

What the ****!?  OK, so my Bruins are sucking ass so far, and obviously needed to shake things up, but why trade their franchise player?  Sometimes it pains me to bleed yellow and black.  :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 1, 2005, 01:26 AM
I could say the same thing, however we haven't made a trade yet for the goalie and vet defenseman we oh so desperately need right now...

Seems like maybe it just sucks to bleed black and gold this year? :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on December 1, 2005, 09:58 AM
Don't worry Jesse, they're just biding their time until Gonchar gets healthy and starts putting up points.  Once that happens he's gone. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 1, 2005, 10:25 AM
I've been a Bruin for 20 years and I've witnessed Harry Sinden destroy this team year after year.  I thought they had finally made a commitment to the future with the re-signing of Joe Thornton and now they've pissed that out the window.

The day I finally get to Boston to see a Bruins game I'll ask for a "back-stage pass" just so I can kick Sinden in the balls.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on December 1, 2005, 10:57 AM
This is a little old but I figured I'd post it here since no one has yet. Thornton was traded from Boston to San Jose for Sturm, Stewart, and Primeau. I think this could be the boost the Sharks need. I rather enjoy them being in 12th place though.

Well, speaking as a guy who has both Thornton and Stuart on his fantasy team, I hope this is going to be a good move for both of them...  :D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 1, 2005, 03:26 PM
I can't say I'm surprised by this trade, blockbuster or not, simply because the B's seem to be run by idiots.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on December 2, 2005, 12:13 AM
It's finally fun to be a Ranger fan again  ;D

I guess it goes in something like a 10 year cycle? (Skipping last year's season would make it 10 seasons since the Rangers were actually a good team)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on December 6, 2005, 09:27 PM
So how many nights a week can you guys get hockey on TV down there?  It seems the NHL has made a real effort up here and only on basic cable, but there's hardly been a night when I haven't been able to catch a game.  And this isn't the NHL cable package, it's just the generic crap.  Here are the stations I can get and see games on:

CBC - Hockey Night in Canada, the sole reason for the existence of the CBC has at least two games every Saturday night. 
TSN - The Toronto Sports Network - too many Leafs games, but 2-3 every week.
OLN - Outdoor life network - we have it in one of our lower tiers of cable packages so we get those games too, about two a week here.
NETW - Sportsnet West - a bit overdone on Oilers games, but still much better balance than TSN.  These guys pick more from Calgary/Edmonton/Vancouver, so it seems like they've got 4-5 games a week. 

It's just crazy how easy it is to see a game up here.   8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on December 6, 2005, 09:50 PM
Well for me we get OLN on a basic digital cable package, so I can see one or two other games a week. But the Nuggets/Avalanche owner has his own TV network on Basic cable here so we can see all of the Avs games with our own local announcers, who I really like for the most part. If you don't have at least basic cable you are screwed here though.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention how much ESPN neglects hockey on SportsCenter now that they no longer have a contract with the NHL. It kinda sucks.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on December 7, 2005, 07:45 PM
click me (http://www.cbc.ca/story/sports/national/2005/12/07/Sports/lemieux051207.html)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Clone On Fire on December 12, 2005, 09:43 AM
Go Hurricanes!!  Time to take us seriously now I do believe!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2005, 07:14 AM
Pens are expected to officially announce the firing of their head coach Ed Olczyk and his staff.  Not surprising given they've lost 8 of their last 9.

A big issue right now with the team though is that Le Clair and Recchi are supposedly trying to do the coaching instead of listening to what they're told.  Dunno how long that **** can go with ANY coach and a team actually wins, but whatever.  I like to think this'll fix things but I doubt it...

Also talk of the Pens getting their arena is up one week, down the next...  One dickhole writer in Pittsburgh is saying that the lock issue of the Slots license going to Lemieux's group isn't going to happen because the used condom that owns the "Station Square" complex in Pittsburgh contributed tot he governor's campaign...  However I like to hope somehow that the deal's going to still work out in favor of Lemieux, especially since uptown NEEDS the slots license more than Station Square does which is already a hotspot for nightlife...  Uptown's too close to the Hill District and as such it's not got much to attract people to it...  A Casino though would do that.

I wish we had gambling ont he water here, Pittsburgh would benefit so much from gambling revenue that way and it'd be a major draw for our city, but alas that seems unlikely to happen ever.  The Slots thing had people getting all up in arms.   ::)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 15, 2005, 03:32 PM
Change has been made.  Michel Therrien, ex-Habs coach, in as new coach of the Pens. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 16, 2005, 12:57 PM
I got the surprise of a lifetime today!

We're at my mother-in-law's place in Calgary to do an early Christmas visit and present exchange.  I opened my present from her and it's 2 tickets to the Bruins game in Calgary tomorrow - my first Bruins game ever!!!!!!!!!!

I had found out the Bruins were playing in Calgary a few weeks after they announced the season schedule, but the game was already sold out.  And I didn't bother looking for tickets online because my wife bought tickets to the Nutcracker ballet tomorrow.  But I just found out that the Nutcracker is actually tonight, so I'll be cheering on my Bruins tomorrow!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on December 16, 2005, 08:52 PM
So you finally get to see Thornton play? Oh wait....

Well have fun. I have only got to see my Avs play live ONCE, and I live in the same country, state, and city. :-\

It sounds like you are going to see a great game, Calgary is doing pretty good. I hope your Bruins hand it to them though. ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 17, 2005, 05:12 PM
So you finally get to see Thornton play? Oh wait....


Yeah, I'm trying not thing about that.   ;)

I'm planning on being at the game at least an hour early and maybe I can luck out and get some autographs or something cool like that.  :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on December 17, 2005, 05:42 PM
Cool present, I wish my mother-in-law gave out hockey tix for gifts.   :P

Hope you have a great time!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 18, 2005, 03:00 AM
Yeah, my mother-in-law really seems to know what to get me for Christmas.   ;D

Well, my Bruins lost 3-0.  Kinda sucked, but to finally see the ol' B's on the ice was still pretty damn cool.  I shall sleep well tonight.   8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on December 20, 2005, 10:30 PM
The Wings were the only team in the NHL to not compete in a shootout until tonite and boy was it worth the wait.  Datsyuk and Williams put awesome moves on LeClaire from Columbus and Osgood stopped Fedorov to win it!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on December 20, 2005, 11:28 PM
Pens are expected to officially announce the firing of their head coach Ed Olczyk and his staff.  Not surprising given they've lost 8 of their last 9.

A big issue right now with the team though is that Le Clair and Recchi are supposedly trying to do the coaching instead of listening to what they're told.  Dunno how long that **** can go with ANY coach and a team actually wins, but whatever.  I like to think this'll fix things but I doubt it...

Also talk of the Pens getting their arena is up one week, down the next...  One dickhole writer in Pittsburgh is saying that the lock issue of the Slots license going to Lemieux's group isn't going to happen because the used condom that owns the "Station Square" complex in Pittsburgh contributed tot he governor's campaign...  However I like to hope somehow that the deal's going to still work out in favor of Lemieux, especially since uptown NEEDS the slots license more than Station Square does which is already a hotspot for nightlife...  Uptown's too close to the Hill District and as such it's not got much to attract people to it...  A Casino though would do that.

I wish we had gambling ont he water here, Pittsburgh would benefit so much from gambling revenue that way and it'd be a major draw for our city, but alas that seems unlikely to happen ever.  The Slots thing had people getting all up in arms.   ::)

Can you say Winnipeg Penguins?  I knew ya could. :-*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 21, 2005, 01:33 AM
Well most everyone in the city's saying they're not leaving, however gambling's really up in the air as to whether Lemieux gets the license or not...  There's other options though, and the last one Lemieux mentioned I think wasn't so reliant on gambling as a focus. 

This week we got a new skyscraper announced for downtown, they're trying to make things nicer in the city so I'm expecting Lemieux's new arena will be part of that...  So much political mudslinging's gone on already that Rendell may give the license to the Pens just because it's already being talked about in a hugely negative manner towards him and there's not even been a decision.

And actually it'd be the Kansas City Pens...  They said that's where the team's likely to go if it were to go.  :)  You wouldn't actually expect a hockey town to get anything, would you Brent?  No no no...  It'd go to a town where John Deer ballcaps are the hottest fashion trend, and have been for decades.

EDIT:

And oh irony of ironies, the Pens are to make a huge announcement today about their current offer/plans for a new arena.  The deal's still gonna hinge on the slots license though, but supposedly a huge and expensive complex featuring retailing space, office space, a casino, and of course the arena, would all be part of the deal...  There's massive private funding from someone who's not being named as of yet but I guess it's an already established gambling organization of some sort...  Sounds like it could be a big push from the Pens on PA to say basically "look, we're laying it out that we WILL do this, we DO want this team here, and we DO want Pittsburgh to improve on a massive level as a city with this investment...  YOU have to give us that license though".

That's how I'm reading this anyway.  No wonder Lemieux's heart is in the ******* right now.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on December 21, 2005, 12:50 PM


And actually it'd be the Kansas City Pens...  They said that's where the team's likely to go if it were to go.  :)  You wouldn't actually expect a hockey town to get anything, would you Brent?  No no no...  It'd go to a town where John Deer ballcaps are the hottest fashion trend, and have been for decades.


No, I don't really expect we'll see one.  We are still a small market that lacks the big bucks necessary to sink into a franchise that loses money.  We'd have fans in the seats that actually paid for them (not knocking many franchises, only some - the Wings/Panthers game was not a sellout ::)), we'd have the best ice in the league and we have a decent, if not small, building.  Nothing really there to entice the league so yeah, KC is a more "logical" choice >:( ::) :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 22, 2005, 01:10 AM
Oh come on, it's KC...  it's got...  Uhm...  Hmmm. 

Oh wait, it's got this really cool...  Uhm...  No, wait.

OK, they suck, sorry.

The Pens thing was basically saying they don't need public funding because a gambling group's backing a lot of it I guess...  I didn't catch all the details but it's a huge push forward.  It's forcing politicians to sorta give the slots license to Lemieux's group or there'll be hell to pay publicly.

It'd be huge for uptown in Pittsburgh which would have a nice retailing, office, nightlife complex plus the arena would be a huge improvement to the city...  Downtown's getting a new skyscraper supposedly to be done by 2008 so the whole core of the city is looking to get a facelift much like the North Shore has gotten (where the Stadiums are at on the other side of the river from downtown/uptown).

Good stuff really...  We just need a mall built into the buildings downtown like Indianapolis had, and some improved mass transit like our T, but expanded to the North/East/West instead of focused on the South...  That'd be a big help.

Anyway, things are looking a lot brighter for the Pens and the arena, though they'd been on the positive side for a while.  Now if the Pens can just get on track to win games, cut the fat, and build their Defense...  It'll be great.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 4, 2006, 12:53 AM
Not that any of you are paying attention, but in the World Junior Championships, Canada goes to the final after beating Finland 4-0 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-worldjunior&prov=ap&type=lgns).  Sweet 8)

US is not in great shape at the start of the third period they trail Russia 3-1.   :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on January 5, 2006, 08:47 PM
Oh my!   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 5, 2006, 09:15 PM
US loses the bronze medal game to Finland.  Man, what a disappointment. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 5, 2006, 09:35 PM
US loses the bronze medal game to Finland.  Man, what a disappointment. 

I didn't see the game but I heard the US players were less than model citizens at the end of the game.  Sportsmanship continues to wear away.

Oh, and I see 5-0 as a final score. 

;D     Oh!  Canada     ;D
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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on January 5, 2006, 09:35 PM
Shut out!

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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 5, 2006, 09:36 PM
Underdogs.

Not that good.

Might not medal.

Stars had moved on to the NHL.



My ass. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 7, 2006, 04:40 PM
Huge win for the Wings last night over Nashville.  That race is gonna go down to the wire unless one team really stumbles.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 12, 2006, 12:52 PM
Anyone of you Canucks heard about this???

http://www.thevancouverite.com/vancouver_news/awful_dan_cloutier_rumors/

This sounds pretty awful if it turns out to be true.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on January 12, 2006, 05:52 PM
New York Rangers send Messier's #11 to the rafters tonight. I wish I had tickets to this game, it should be an amazing ceremony. One of, if not the greatest, player to ever wear the Rangers sweater (and I don't count Gretzky, who is of course the greatest player of all time, since he only played a few years at the tail end of his career).

We're gonna miss you, Mess (http://www.nhl.com/features/messier011206.html)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ian_C on January 13, 2006, 08:54 PM
I'm ba-a-a-a-c-k, and here to forever bash the Ottawa Senators.

I'm a Leafs fan, for those that didn't know it, and myself and Brent have a long history of debating the leafs/Sens rivalry.

Now that I'm done with a certain Canadian SW website, I'm going to have to move the 'discussion' over here.

I'm hoping Toronto and Ottawa meet in the playoffs, so Brent has a chance to win our annual bet.  To do it, his pick will have to reverse 5 straight playoff losses to my team though. :)

Ian
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 13, 2006, 10:32 PM
This might look familiar for you Ian:

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 ;D

Anyone of you Canucks heard about this???

http://www.thevancouverite.com/vancouver_news/awful_dan_cloutier_rumors/

This sounds pretty awful if it turns out to be true.

There's nothing in the mainstream media Jason and Canada doesn't have the same reverance for athletes, even hockey players, that the US does.  I talked to my dad who lives in Vancouver and there's been nothing reported out there.  I'm sure it could possibly be true, but it should be all over the media if it were. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on January 13, 2006, 10:55 PM
I'd think something like that would have been picked up by somebody - even if they reported it as a rumor - if there was anything to it.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on January 16, 2006, 07:45 PM
I have an exciting announcement to make.  After 2 years with no satellite capabilities at my building, I was finally able to get Direct T.V. this weekend.  Which means I finally get OLN.

Which means that in 20 miuntes, I'll be watching my first Lightning game of the year.

I'll also be going to see them on Friday when they come to town to play the Stars.

I'm very excited.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 18, 2006, 01:48 PM
No need to provide a link cause I saw 3 of 4 on Spawn.com but Ziggy Palffy has retired effective immediately. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2006, 04:29 AM
It's weird here right now...  There's big headlines in the paper saying the Pens are for sale, Lemieux's denying that but making it strongly known that they're ONLY going to stay if the Pens get the (increasingly important) Slots Gambling License...  That or they head off to Sin City.

Which makes sense in every way, I can't argue with that really and the Mellon (Civic) Arena is old and ******.  Hell it leaked on an NCAA game the other day (it has I believe the largest retractable roof in the world, and I've been there on the really REALLY odd occassion it was opened for a Roller HOckeyc game eons ago, and it is cool but rarely ever used).  Pittsburgh has to **** or get off the pot (and the state of PA more to the pint, and Rendel and the state control who gets that gambling license in Pitt), and the Pens need that license...  The Steelers and Pirates got individual stadiums they really didn't need individually, but because neither would cooperate they got their own digs.  PNC's pretty but the Pirates suck worse than the Pens if you ask me, and deserved it less.

I'm hoping they get their arena so I have hockey here to go to for a while.  Watched ag ame tonight and really it's sad because things just don't go their way.  they play well, but a bad call or bounce goes against hte Pens and all hell breaks loose with less than 5 minutes to go.  It's sad, and that's been their season.  If they can weather this year, get their new arena, then I think they can come out as a better team next year.

The new head coach has said there's tons of internal problems with the team.  Guys who blatantly don't care...  He's working to eliminate that, however I think some older guys may be to blame there and they're just not naming names...  I'm wagering it's ugly with some guys who think they don't have to work hard, and then we have this AMAZING young team waiting to just be let loose...  I think some of the old guys are anchors though holding them back.  Hockey fans in this city are just sitting back and waiting to see what happens.

Right now, it's all Pittsburgh Steelers in town though.  You can't imagine how it's taken over unless you were here.  Our news teams are almost all doing Denver stories...  Last week almost the entire News world from Pitt had gone to Indy to report...  Even the regular anchors were just doing their show out there.  It was weird.

Anyway, watched the Pens drop a game where they played GREAT but a goal got claled back they should've gotten that, I believe, would've turned the game's tide toward the Pens right at the end.  Stuff like that is the Pens season this year.  It's depressing as a fan, but you stick by and hope for the best and move on.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2006, 10:18 AM
Pens are expected to officially announce the firing of their head coach Ed Olczyk and his staff.  Not surprising given they've lost 8 of their last 9.

A big issue right now with the team though is that Le Clair and Recchi are supposedly trying to do the coaching instead of listening to what they're told.  Dunno how long that **** can go with ANY coach and a team actually wins, but whatever.  I like to think this'll fix things but I doubt it...

Also talk of the Pens getting their arena is up one week, down the next...  One dickhole writer in Pittsburgh is saying that the lock issue of the Slots license going to Lemieux's group isn't going to happen because the used condom that owns the "Station Square" complex in Pittsburgh contributed tot he governor's campaign...  However I like to hope somehow that the deal's going to still work out in favor of Lemieux, especially since uptown NEEDS the slots license more than Station Square does which is already a hotspot for nightlife...  Uptown's too close to the Hill District and as such it's not got much to attract people to it...  A Casino though would do that.

I wish we had gambling ont he water here, Pittsburgh would benefit so much from gambling revenue that way and it'd be a major draw for our city, but alas that seems unlikely to happen ever.  The Slots thing had people getting all up in arms.   ::)

Can you say Winnipeg Penguins?  I knew ya could. :-*

 :-*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2006, 11:13 AM
 >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2006, 01:50 PM
Aw, don't worry Jesse, they'll never come here.  As much as I'd like them to (I'd buy season tickets tomorrow if they made the announcement) it's just not likely.  I think they might end up leaving Pittsburgh (though Lemieux on the news last night was steadfast the team wasn't going to Quebec City, Winnipeg or anywhere else) but I just don't see us getting the team.  The most likely group of owners here owns the Moose already (AHL, Canucks farm team) and it's actually a profitable business.  They usually leave the upper deck of the new arena closed and almost always sell out the lower bowl (just under 9000).  When they do open the upper bowl (on a game by game decision basis) they tend to sell it out well, so they have a really good handle on the market.  One of the prospective owners said they're looking at it, but the economics of the league haven't changed that much.  They also indicated that Edmonton, a similar sized market, might not being doing as well as everyone thinks ;)

That said Bettman hates Winnipeg.  It doesn't fit really well with a lot of the divisions, though I can't see how you can really say that about Winnipeg and not say it about Minnesota as well, it's only one hour of extra flying time.  It is a small market, like Edmonton.  And there are lots of other cities clamouring for a franchise, or so the NHL would lead us to believe.  I think we deserve it, I think we'd support it and I think with the collective bargaining agreement/salary cap and an improved Canadian dollar we can handle it.  I just don't think they'll come here.  I think Ohio needs another team ::)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 20, 2006, 02:16 PM

That said Bettman hates Winnipeg. 


First time I've ever agreed with Bettman.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 20, 2006, 04:49 PM
This from Buttfuck, Saskatchewan ::) 

Lemme guess, you prefer Calgary ::)  Good luck buying a house. 

Either way, rest assured Saskatchewan will never see anything of consequence :-*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on January 20, 2006, 05:08 PM
It doesn't fit really well with a lot of the divisions, though I can't see how you can really say that about Winnipeg and not say it about Minnesota as well, it's only one hour of extra flying time. 

I feel for ya.  Here's how I'd handle it.  I'd move the Penguins to Winnipeg (sorry Jesse).

First thing I'd do is re-name them.  I wouldn't go back to Jets, but I'd pick something else... how about the Winnipeg Wendigos?  Maybe the Winnipeg "Suck it Bettman"s?


Anyway, I'd stick them in the Northwest Division with us.  Then, I'd move around some other teams to make it all work.  It'd look a little something like this:


ATLANTIC
Philadelphia
NY Rangers
New Jersey
NY Islanders
Columbus* (takes Pittsburgh's place out east)

CENTRAL
Detroit
Dallas* (takes Columbus' place)
Nashville
Chicago
St. Louis

PACIFIC
Los Angeles
Anaheim
Phoenix
San Jose
Vancouver* (takes Dallas' place)

NORTHWEST
Calgary
Colorado
Edmonton
Minnesota
Winnipeg*(take's Vancouver's place)



If they did move the Pens west to Vegas, they'd have to do some re-arranging too (probably very similar to what I have listed only minus the Vancouver move since Vegas would just take the place of the displaced Stars) so why not just go all the way and right a long gone wrong for Winnipeg? 

Then, in a few years, after Pittsburg has learned from it's mistake and put in gambling and a new arena, they can have the Oilers because they'll be ready to go and all the changes/moves can be reversed...   :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 20, 2006, 05:46 PM
Either way, rest assured Saskatchewan will never see anything of consequence :-*

Exactly why I'm leaving this hole.  :P

Jeff, I like how you've rearranged the divisions for a move to Winnipeg (ok, fine, it's a smart move Brent  ;)).  I realize a lot of southern cities have been successful with hockey teams, but Vegas just doesn't seem right to me.  :-\

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Mikey D on January 20, 2006, 07:42 PM
Jeff, you missed almost a whole division:  :P

Boston (suprised Jesse didn't catch this)
Tampa Bay
Ottawa
Toronto
Montreal
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on January 20, 2006, 07:52 PM
Jeff, you missed almost a whole division:  :P

Oh, sorry.  I left out the other two because I didn't make any changes to them...

NORTHEAST
Ottawa
Buffalo
Toronto
Montreal
Boston

SOUTHEAST
Carolina
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
Florida
Washington
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2006, 07:55 PM
The Pens aren't playing well but I DON'T agree with your moving them Jeff because they had a sell-out streak just end not too long ago.

Wrost team in the NHL selling out (even a ****** arena), so I think moving them is a huge negative to the city and to the NHL where they'd go to either a market the NHL doesn't seemt o favor (Canada, for whatever reason), or one where it's completely unproven...

THe Slots license and new arena thing isn't a few years away either, it's like now...  They want to put the arena up as they tear the current one down, and do so quickly I guess, so they can really start bringing this gambling revenue in, but it's all to be decided very soon...

Lemieux himself won't be moving the team either, he'd sell it to someone who would if anything...  Not sure if anyone knew that or not.  He's said he's staying in Pittsburgh.  Said he's unhappy when he goes home and can't even go out to eat without being harassed so he says he's considering himself now a Pittsburgher and won't be moving wherever the team ends up.

They've sold a LOT of tickets this year, it's surprising considering their play, so I have hopes they'll stay because politics won't get in the way and everyone seems to know they're good for the city.  Pittsburgh is as good a hockey town as anywhere, we just haven't had **** to cheer for here for a long time, plus football will ALWAYS be king here irregardless of either of our sports and their successes.  The Pens have their support though, they have a plan...  It all will 100% hinge now on if the Pens group get the Slots license.  There's no other factors involved at this point.  If we don't, they're gone, if we do there's funding for a new arena lined up, there's an uptown revitilization project that hinges on it, and the Pens will be the key...  

If we don't, Vegas they say is the top (and most likely the only) place to get them I guess, as the same people willing to take the license and open the Casino are the same people that would move the team to Vegas if the license wasn't granted to them.  

ANd you guys all suck for wanting my team moved!  Eat penis.   >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 20, 2006, 11:24 PM
Nah, I don't actually want the Pens to leave Pittsburgh, I just think that Winnipeg deserves to have a team again.  Besides, I think it would do a lot more harm than good to lose a team in Pittsburgh, especially when it's so synonymous with Lemieux.  That man has done so much for the league, so I think it would really hurt league morale.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on January 20, 2006, 11:41 PM
Well that was fun.  The lightning beat up on the Stars tonight.  Turco gave up 4 goals in the first and got pulled... Lots of booing from the home crowd.

Good stuff.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 21, 2006, 02:14 AM
Penis?  Can I have it BBQ?  That oughta kill the flavour.


Don't worry Jesse, it's mostly just a bluff IMO.  The city has been reluctant with the gambling/arena, so they're (i.e. Mario) throwing it out there as a tease or threat, depending on your point of view.  As I said above, I don't really see them moving be it Winnipeg, Quebec City, Vegas, Cincinatti or whatever.  Pittsburgh should have a team regardless, it's a good hockey city and I'd be as sour about them leaving there as I was about teams vacating Minneapolis (North Stars) and QC (Nordiques).  It simply belongs in those towns.  That, however, may not be an economic reality. 

I'm not really a fan of governments/tax dollars being thrown at professional franchises even if it is the norm.  Sink or swim is my view, but clearly I'm in a minority (maybe not on this board) but if they are worth having, then support them and quit looking for handouts.  That may come across as a condemnation of the Pens, but it's nothing different than the Jets did as well.

Probably the key factor is a comment I made earlier.  Bettman hates Winnipeg and there's no way this side of hell freezing over that Bettman would let the future of the NHL (Crosby) play in a small market like this.  On the very, VERY extreme outside chance we got something, there'd probably be a stipulation that Crosby would have to be playing somewhere else.  Not all that different from the WHA Jets being raped of their stars when they entered the NHL.

I'm mostly having fun with this but there's probably 100,000 people locally that are all hot and bothered by the real possibility of the Jets (or NHL Winnipeg ______ if you prefer) returning.  I'm a traditionalist so I'd like to see it as the Jets, but the name and the uniforms were kinda lame by modern standards.  That said a lot of people will be disappointed. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 21, 2006, 02:27 AM
I think it's more a bluff too or false information, but you never know...  I think they're going to stay because, if the slots license didn't go to Lemieu'x group at this point there'd be political hell to pay I think.  Who knows though, I just wish that they'd **** or get off the pot finally so I can know if we'll have this team or not.

I'm not upset if the state spends money on sports franchises for their respective cities...  Some things were figured about what events for the new stadiums can generate financially for the city, and it's impressive...  They're good parts of the city.  The Pirates are getting the All Star game here soon and that's expected to really generate a ****load of cash for Pittsburgh...  The Steelers are a money juggernaught...  The Pens in their heyday in the early and mid 90's made tons of money for Pittsburgh...  A new arena that more or less redeveloped all of our uptown area in one swoop would do a lot of good, so I think the state SHOULD be helping some but from what I gathered Lemieux's group actually can privately fund their building, they just need the Slots license to offset the costs they'll incur building the building, which it's gotta go to someone in our city...  The question now is who gets it.

One group wants to build a Casino on the NOrth Shore between PNC Park and Heinz Field.  It would essentially sit where 3 Rivers used to be which is now parking lot...  There's like 90 different plans for that part of the shoreline though so it's kinda stupid to throw the Slots license to a part of the city that doesn't need it.

The real contention for the license is a guy that owns the other shoreline across from downtown on Pittsburgh's southern and western end.  It's a small nightlife/retail complex called "Station Square" (a renovated train station almost as old as the city is).  The complex has an amphitheater, it is set under Mt. Washington and the famous Incline railcars we have, it's got clubs, restaurants, hotels, etc...  It's got a lot of land it could develope where the Amphitheater is, however this area is prone to traffic jams already so I don't think expanding Station Square is wise.  They don't have a major highway artery past them, but instead you get to them via 2 lane streets on Pittsburgh's southside or the numerous bridges that connect downtown to the SouthSide/Station Square.  It'd be dumb to really expand this place.

Uptown though borders Pittsburgh's Hill District.  The HD is violent, run down, economically and socially depressed...  It's a ****hole that shows what happens to a town when it's driving force in its economy dries up.  The Civic Arena is more or less what separates Downtown from the Hill District...  It is Uptown more or less, and Lemieux wants to basically tear the CA down to put in the parking area where it now stands, and tear down an old church and 2 large buildings to put in the new Casino/Arena...  It would revitalize a part of town that NEEDS it.  So I think the city would be wise to back it, to put political pressure on the governor to lean this way instead of to Station Square...  It just makes more sense for the city at this point, plus the Pens do generate revenue for the city, they deserve the slots license then if it means them staying permanently.

It's just frustrating with all this posturing going on...  It's BS.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 21, 2006, 02:32 AM

I'm not upset if the state spends money on sports franchises for their respective cities...  Some things were figured about what events for the new stadiums can generate financially for the city, and it's impressive...  They're good parts of the city.  The Pirates are getting the All Star game here soon and that's expected to really generate a ****load of cash for Pittsburgh... 

That's a good point Jesse.  I was just at a meeting in Fort Lauderdale (Entomological Society of America if you're bored and want to Google it) and it was big enough that they'll waive the Convention Center rental because it generates enough business for busses, hotels, restaurants, etc. that it's worth it for the city in general.  Here in Winnipeg now that we have an arena it's probably worthwhile as well as I suspect it is in Pitt. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 21, 2006, 02:36 AM
Makes one wonder what C3 did for Indianapolis financially...  When I think about what I spent out besides my hotel, I really blew a LOT of money out there...  I drank a lot, I had one of the most expensive meals I've ever eaten one night there...  Multiply that by however many people and it probably really did a service to the area.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 22, 2006, 12:52 PM
God I love when the Wings beat the Avs!   ;D  Stellar PK in the 3rd and great goaltending got us those 2 points. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on January 22, 2006, 07:59 PM
God I love when the Wings beat the Avs!   ;D  Stellar PK in the 3rd and great goaltending got us those 2 points. 

Man it has been a crappy weekend here in D-Town. :-\

It was a really good game though. I was hoping the Avs could find a way to pull it out, but the second that first 5-3 was over I knew we lost it, even though it was 3-3 at the time. You don't win games if you don't score on the 2 man advantage, especially when you don't score on two of them. We've got such a hard schedule now. We play Calgary, Dallas, and Vancouver our next 3 games. Then Minnesota who always plays us close.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 24, 2006, 11:50 AM
Mario Lemieux is set to announce his retirement today.   :-[
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 24, 2006, 12:01 PM
What a crummy way to retire, with all the threats of moving the team hanging over his head.  :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2006, 07:33 PM
It's more his health than anything I think.  He's a real family guy...  I think his eratic heart beat has him concerned and that he's more interested in getting control of the team from off the ice because he's said he can't do both effectively, and obviously nobody else can get control of the team for him, so it's probably for the best.

The guy was among the top scorers when he was playing early this season...  He can play with the best of them still, so it's definitely not that he's needing to retire I think, but it is more that he's just wanting to do this for his own health and well being.  I respect that, and he has said it's guys like Crosby that are going to be the spokespeople for the NHL now...  Not him.  I like that just fine.  :)  I'll forever wear my Lemieux Jersey though...  That'll be the jersey I most cherish in my wardrobe and the reminder of why I played the game myself.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 24, 2006, 09:17 PM
I'd say Lemieux is leaving the team in very capable hands (your reference to Crosby) and he has accomplished so much in his career, so it makes sense that it's time for him to focus on his health.  It's amazing what he has gone through and persevered through it all to be one of the best ever.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 25, 2006, 03:46 AM
I didn't get to see reports till tonight's news...  Saw Lemieux's press conference and it was beyond sad.  He sorta was crying towards the end...  I think it hurt him greatly.

Bill Cowher took some time out of his press conference today to address Lemieux's retirement and show respect for what he's done for not only Pittsburgh but what Lemieux did for the sport of Hockey.  He's a MAJOR reason the NHL is a better entity today than it was 1 or 2 years ago.

Paul Steigerwald (Radio guy, used to do color commentary for TV on the Pens) said today that the best thing he'd like to see is the new arena built, and right in front a large statue honoring Mario Lemieux and his contributions to hockey and Pittsburgh. 

Lemieux is every reason I ever picked up a stick and played the game.  I've been through his retirement once before so maybe it didn't hit me quite as hard this time.  The first time I was almost devastated though inside...  It was watching an icon step down, a driving force in my motivation steppping aside...  This time it's still the same but I think it's the right call.  His heart problem's scary for him and he has a wife and kids to think of...  He's able to compete, he proved that at the beginning of the season...  He's as good as he ever was, he's a dominant player when he's healthy, but he just can't trust his body to hold out for himself and peace of mind.  You have to respect anyone who did what he did...  If he'd been healthy throughout his career with only the "regular" health problems plaguing him, I have no doubt in my mind Lemieux would have been the record holder Gretzky is.  I'll miss him, but at the same time I know Mario Lemieux will still be a major part of hockey in the city of Pittsburgh, and just a major part of the city of Pittsburgh overall.  I hope the city renames one of our more prominent landmarks for him as they did with Clemente.  He's certainly earned that I believe.

I hope he has a good golf game his first day out on the links during retirement. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on January 30, 2006, 04:37 PM
Well, tonight is a big game night for me:
Wild vs. Detroit

I've got great Club level tickets and I think it should be a fun game.

I do hope it goes a bit better then the last game I went to... Ottawa 6, Wild 1.   :(  Don't get me wrong - it was great fun watching Redden, Heatly, and Alfy skating circles around my squad, but I would like to see the Wild win again this year.

So far, I've seen:
Vancouver 3, Wild 1
Phoenix 4, Wild 2
Wild 5, St. Louis 3  :)
Ottawa 5, Wild 1

After the Dead Wings tonight, I've still got 1 more game left this year (vs. Calgary in March), so it's still possible that I might see the Wild break even in games this year... 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on January 30, 2006, 06:14 PM
I ran out at lunch and grabbed tickets to this Thursdays game against Colorado, as well as next Thursday vs. the Wings. Looking forward to both, and seeing what NKOTB Sillinger can do for us.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 30, 2006, 06:46 PM
I ran out at lunch and grabbed tickets to this Thursdays game against Colorado, as well as next Thursday vs. the Wings. Looking forward to both, and seeing what NKOTB Sillinger can do for us.

I expect at least pictures from you from that game.  Wish I could make it out and join you.

Those "Dead Wings" happen to be tops in the West there Jeffrey.  Show some respect.    ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 30, 2006, 08:49 PM
See, what happens?  Jeff spoke ill of the Wings and it is now 4-0 Wings after 1.   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on January 30, 2006, 08:54 PM
See, what happens?  Jeff spoke ill of the Wings and it is now 4-0 Wings after 1.   ;D
'bout time they started up again, they've been killing me of late.  Them and Atlanta.  Damn mid-season slumps. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on January 30, 2006, 11:31 PM
See, what happens?  Jeff spoke ill of the Wings and it is now 4-0 Wings after 1.   ;D

Wow, what a fun game!

Detroit 4, Wild 0 after the first
Detroit 4, Wild 3 after the second
Detroit 5, Wild 4 after the third  :(

The Wild lose, but I was impressed as all hell they got back in the game enough to make the third period matter.  Detroit came out flat in the second (hey, they were leading 4-0) and the Wild snuck back in the game with some pretty ugly goals (although Gabby's was nice).

Wild lost, but it was blast!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on January 31, 2006, 11:46 AM
Glad you had fun Jeff.  I was glad to see Osgood get yanked cause the goals were soft.  Gaborik's was legit though.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on February 3, 2006, 01:52 PM
Fun Preds game to go to last night, and definitely always a blast to see us beat Colorado.  Refs were absolutely awful, I've never seen the crowd get onto them that bad before. GEC erupted after each intermission when they first took the ice. Sully's breakaway was a thing of beauty, and a great way to come back and win the game though.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2006, 02:54 AM
Pens had a rally over the weekend that, unfortunately in a way, got overshadowed due to the Steelers and their weekend, but the Pens rally got a lot of support and local sports teams are throwing a lot of backing to the Pens...  It's all to put political pressure on Governor Rendell to give the Slots License to Lemieux's backers...

There's a lot of bi-partisan support so that's good but it's all local.  It should be, however Rendell isn't local so he may not "care" quite as much.  I dunno.  We'll see how things go.  I maintain optomism, but it is getting close to crunch time I guess.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 6, 2006, 02:19 PM
Man, forgot to come in and comment on that awesome Wings SHUTOUT of Colorado.  It put such a big smile on my face.   ;D 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 8, 2006, 10:11 AM
Black eye for the NHL (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-tocchet-gamblingbust&prov=ap&type=lgns).

Pete Rose? 

Conspiracy theory: rattle Gretzky before the Olympics? 

The end of a marriage?

Read the story :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 12, 2006, 08:03 PM
Wings spank the Avs yet again and SWEEP the season series!  Gotta love it!  Wings are tops in the league at the break with 83 points. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ian_C on February 14, 2006, 01:03 AM
Black eye for the NHL (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-tocchet-gamblingbust&prov=ap&type=lgns).

Pete Rose? 

Conspiracy theory: rattle Gretzky before the Olympics? 

The end of a marriage?

Read the story :P

I don't see the big deal.

So far, no evidence anyone bet on NHL games.  It's not against the CBA to bet on other sports.  Why is it so awful that Janet Jones bet on the Super Bowl when millions of other North Americans did?

The only thing I see here is a possible illegal gambling ring by Tocchet.  I highly doubt Gretzky was involved in that if it's the case, although I suspect he probably knew about it.

Aside from Tocchet making himself look bad as an individual, I see no harm here with the evidence presented to this point.

Ian
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 14, 2006, 01:07 AM
Yep, I agree Ian, but the media north of the border sure aren't presenting it that way.  I don't think most south of the border are even aware and if they are, they're of the same opinion as you - who cares?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 14, 2006, 01:15 AM
They're talking about it a lot around the U.S. I guess.  I know it was something they were talking up on the Stern show for the past couple days, and he's no fan of hockey or sports in general so it's making headlines.

Of course it made headlines bigtime in Pittsburgh because of Tocchet's ties here.  He's remembered fondly, but it's seemingly all over the place, not just in my area.

I think it's the factors though of a major sports figure and a hot ass chick that are garnering the headlines more than anyone giving a **** if athletes are corrupt or not.

Back to the Stern thing for a moment, I agree with him that any chick being that apseshit with betting and gambling really loses a lot of "hotness" in my eyes.  It isn't "cute" gambling anymore and goes to a whole new level of unattractiveness.  It's like a girl being a little buzzed compared to being a sloppy ass drunk.  Really knocked her down some pegs.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ian_C on February 14, 2006, 01:50 AM
JJ, was that referring to Gretzky's wife?  From what I heard, she just made some bets - not like she was some gambling addict.

Everything I've heard from those south of the border is either what my opinions are, or just plain indifference.

Our Canadian media just need something to worry about.  ::)

Ian
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 14, 2006, 03:50 AM
I've heard she bet like $500k in a very short span or some such (I haven't followed it too closely), which irregardless of how much you have financially that smacks of gambling addict to me.  Not just the cute chick playing a game of craps for kicks or some such...  it's just a turn off really.

Like I heard she put like a really high ammount on the coin toss in the super bowl, and bet $75k on the game itself or something?  I'm not sure...  That seems pretty out of control to me though.  If I was Gretzky I wouldn't want that setting an impression upon my kids, I dunno.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 14, 2006, 11:13 AM
I don't doubt you've heard that Jesse, but I'm going to suggest it's the more sensationlized aspect than having lots to do with reality.  Time will tell but there've been no reports up here to indicate any of that sort of information at all.  And it's big news up here, front page news on the rags and legitimate papers as well.  No one has dropped any numbers at all, so I'd suggest what you're hearing is people speculating and making the story more interesting than it might really be. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ian_C on February 14, 2006, 03:30 PM
If you're right, then yeah it's too excessive.

I had the understanding it was a much smaller amount - like only $5000.

Ian
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on February 14, 2006, 03:45 PM
The latest on the news now here is that Gretzky has been in Vegas at some $25000 per hand Poker Tourney... even if they can't link him to the ring, they are trying to play it up as a big "gambling is bad" thing.  ::)

Personally, I see no problem on the bettors part if they were not betting on Hockey.  Even if a few players were betting on NFL games, who cares?  It's not against the law and it's not against the CBA.  It's a totally different situation than Pete Rose who bet not only bet on his own sport, but also on his own team.  If it turns out that the bettors were also betting on the NHL and/or their teams, that's a differnt thing to me.

That's the bettors though - the people placing the bets.  The Bookies/Organizers are another beast.  Tocchet is basically screwed - he's the one who broke the law by profiting off the betting and endorsing gambling.  He is the bookie in essence and that part (being a bookie) IS what is against the law in the USA.  He's looking at some big damage if/when everything shakes out...

So, for me, I look at it this way -
For the people who placed bets, it's embassaing but understandable.  A large number of people bet with their friends on the superbowl in office pools and the like.   Just kind of an embassassment to deal with... but if they bet on NHL games, well that's a no-no.

For the people who took the bets - Tocchet and pals - they are screwed.  They are the ones who did the illegal part and they are the ones who have to deal with the aftermath...

As for Gretz, I'm sure he knew his wife was involved on some level but maybe not the extent of how much she was involved.  Does that make him guilty?  Not really.  Can you blame him for trying to dust it off?  No, it'd be most guys reaction to try to protect their wife in a situation like that...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2006, 02:54 AM
Yeah it could just be sensationalized, I'm just saying what I keep hearing from numerous places...  There was word LeClaire and Recchi were in on it too though and now that's not seemingly being talked about at all so I dunno.

I still thing chicks gambling heavily is a turn-off.  Reminds me of a fat Italian guy like Artie Lange and his heavy gambling issues...  I can't get it out of my mind is all, but yeah it could be completely false for all I know, it's just what is bantered about down here.

The US is definitely painting Gretzky badly, which is typical "Let's beef this up with the biggest name involved" while little is really being shown to go to him particularly, but rather other people around him...  But ya still gotta use his name to make the story big.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 15, 2006, 02:22 PM
Hasek injured!

http://www.nbcolympics.com/news/5108933/detail.html?qs=pt=espn
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 15, 2006, 03:13 PM
Not nice to rejoice in an injury, but it does improve the odds for Canada.  Hasek's been a huge surprise to me this year.  I also don't own him in any fantasy leagues, so it doesn't hurt me there either. 

Not good for the Czech's, that's for sure.  Ouch.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on February 15, 2006, 03:44 PM
Hasek injured!

I also don't own him in any fantasy leagues, so it doesn't hurt me there either.

 >:(

First Nagy is out for the year, now this.  I hope it's just a temporary thing and he is smart enough to sit out of the Olympics and not de-rail his duty to Ottawa and the NHL just to satisfy the Czech Team.   :-\

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 15, 2006, 04:05 PM
Not nice to rejoice in an injury, but it does improve the odds for Canada.  Hasek's been a huge surprise to me this year.  I also don't own him in any fantasy leagues, so it doesn't hurt me there either. 

Not good for the Czech's, that's for sure.  Ouch.

Definitely not rejoicing.  Was more shocked than anything.  It was bound to happen to some star.  I think this was the moment everyone was waiting for with Hasek's groin.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 15, 2006, 04:25 PM
Sorry Jason, I didn't mean you, I meant me.  I didn't state that clearly, no offense was meant.  My meaning that it was good news for me as a fan of the Canadian team at the Olympics and while it is good news for Team Canada, it's not good for me to be happy about it, even if it brings some potential relief. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 18, 2006, 09:57 PM
Nasty time right now, mostly Olympics related:

Hasek
Jagr with a possible concussion
Elias with rib injury
Theodore with a fractured heel

So much for rest and healing up :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ian_C on February 22, 2006, 10:15 AM
I hope it's just a temporary thing and he is smart enough to sit out of the Olympics and not de-rail his duty to Ottawa and the NHL just to satisfy the Czech Team.   :-\



On the contrary, I'd love it.  Ottawa sucks, and the last thing I ever want to see is that egotistical excuse for a team win anything.

Ian
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on February 22, 2006, 10:53 AM
On the contrary, I'd love it.  Ottawa sucks, and the last thing I ever want to see is that egotistical excuse for a team win anything.

Well, since I have Hasek as my #1 goalie on my NHL fantasy team, I have to care about him and Ottawa.

Go Senators!   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on February 22, 2006, 11:09 PM
Bah, just ignore Ian and his blue blood ::)  Somehow he has himself convinced that Alfredsson is a jerk but Sundin is great.  A Swede is a Swede buddy ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ian_C on February 23, 2006, 11:37 AM
LOL, yep.  GO LEAFS GO!!!

Alfreddson should be entered in the summer Olympics as a triathalon athlete.  He sure gets enough exercise on those stationary bikes. ;)

Ian
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 6, 2006, 01:02 PM
It sounds like Erik Cole will miss the rest of the regular season with a compression fracture in a vertebra in his neck.  :-\

Dang, neck injuries are NEVER good.  Lucky he wasn't hurt a heck of a lot worse...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 6, 2006, 03:50 PM
Agreed - neck injuries, especially a vertebral fracture, are never good.  Scary actually.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 8, 2006, 09:08 PM
There go the goalies!

- Goalie Swap for the Habs and Avs  (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2360209)

- Dale, hope your squad enjoys Roli the Goalie (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2359703)

- a few other minor deals have been, I expect to see some more big deals as we head into the deadline tomorrow...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 9, 2006, 01:35 PM
Lots of deals today.  Just got in from playing pick up hockey this morning.  XM's Home Ice was covering all the deals thus far and the last 2 rumors they had from various sources said look for Witt to the Preds and CuJo to Tampa.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 9, 2006, 04:20 PM
Lots of trades today.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on March 9, 2006, 04:21 PM
Glad to have picked up Witt, and we didn't give up **** to get him which is all the better. Too bad he can't make it to Van. tonight.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 9, 2006, 05:07 PM
Hmmm...

+ RW Mattias Weinhandl (from NYI via waivers)
+ D Martin Skoula (from Dallas)
+ D Shawn Belle  (from Dallas)
+ 1st Round Draft Pick (from Edmonton)

- RW Alexandre Daigle (waivers, now unassigned)
- G Dwayne Roloson (to Edmonton)
- D Willie Mitchell (to Dallas)
- 2nd Round Draft Pick (to Dallas)

Looks like we dumped a few guys who will be unrestricted free agents next year and that's it.  Also, considering we sent Roli to one of the teams ahead of us in the playoff race, I'm assuming that means we are giving up for this year.

I keep hearing lots of talk that the Wild saved their free agent money this year so they would have it to spend next year, but I don't know if I believe that just yet.   :-\

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Darth Paul on March 9, 2006, 05:58 PM
Things could be worse....you could be a Leafs fan like me :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 9, 2006, 06:17 PM
Earlier in the season the Bruins trade Thornton, and now they give away Samsonov?  It's a disgusting feeling being a B's fan somedays.  >:( 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Mikey D on March 9, 2006, 07:11 PM
Earlier in the season the Bruins trade Thornton, and now they give away Samsonov?  It's a disgusting feeling being a B's fan somedays.  >:( 

I'm not a Bruins fan, but I do hear and read about them everyday living in Boston.  Just let me tell that sports radio and the papers are absolutely ripping the **** out of that team right now - from ownership all the way down to the players.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 9, 2006, 10:46 PM
Glad to have picked up Witt, and we didn't give up **** to get him which is all the better. Too bad he can't make it to Van. tonight.

Personally I think you overpaid for him.  In the new NHL, I'm not sure what the fascination with a guy like Witt is. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on March 10, 2006, 07:01 AM
I'm still not sure I like the Colorado-Montreal goalie swap yet. Theodore is a great goalie, and I can't wait until he is healthy again. But I really like Aebischer, hew was one of my favortire players and he has been playing excellent lately. It is going to be sad to see him go. I think he could have had a good career here. I wish they would have at least waited until the end of the year, I guess word on the street is that this deal was only possible because Theodore is hurt though. :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on March 10, 2006, 12:17 PM
I'm a little surprised at the deal actually.  I like Theodore and Aebisher as goalies both.  Neither is consistently all-star caliber, but both are very dependable at number one with flashes of brilliance. 

The big surprise is that Huet is playing so well for Montreal, I have to wonder why they grabbed Aebisher?  For the playoff run?  Well, ok, but Aebisher was in net during the Colorado Cup drives?  Um, no.  So what was the point in giving up Theodore?  Weird.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 10, 2006, 12:23 PM
Considering Theodore won't be back til the playoffs, you gotta wonder if Colorado packed it in for this season.  Its definitely a questionable trade.  I think Montreal got some insurance knowing that Huet is unproven and Aebi is a good solid goalie.  Now they have a nice situation there with 2 solid Gs. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on March 10, 2006, 01:19 PM
Considering Theodore won't be back til the playoffs, you gotta wonder if Colorado packed it in for this season.  Its definitely a questionable trade.  I think Montreal got some insurance knowing that Huet is unproven and Aebi is a good solid goalie.  Now they have a nice situation there with 2 solid Gs. 

Agreed, Montreal got the better of the deal.  I'd suggest that Theodore, when he's on and healthy, is the better of the two in the trade.  But what's the point of getting him injured?  Next year would be my guess too.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on March 10, 2006, 04:58 PM
Both Budaj and Kolesnik are both good goalies and very solid backups and they should be able to keep the Avs in the playoff race until Theodore gets healthy again. I definitely don't think they've packed it up. The local papers and the Avs website had sme interviews with Pierre Lacroix (our President and GM) and he said that we are going to be very solid in net for the next few years with Theodore being the goalie of the future and we have two young solid backups in Kolesnik and Budaj. Hopefully this all works out, I seem to remember us getting another big name goalie from Montreal a few years back... :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 10, 2006, 11:44 PM
Both Budaj and Kolesnik are both good goalies and very solid backups and they should be able to keep the Avs in the playoff race until Theodore gets healthy again. I definitely don't think they've packed it up. The local papers and the Avs website had sme interviews with Pierre Lacroix (our President and GM) and he said that we are going to be very solid in net for the next few years with Theodore being the goalie of the future and we have two young solid backups in Kolesnik and Budaj. Hopefully this all works out, I seem to remember us getting another big name goalie from Montreal a few years back... :)

LOL, but Theodore is no Roy.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 14, 2006, 05:03 PM
I've got tickets tonight to see the Wild V. Edmonton.  Should be a good game and should be fun if Roli is in goal again for Edmonton.

My record for the year is a little lacking (1-4-0-0):

Vancouver 3, Wild 1
Phoenix 4, Wild 2
Wild 5, St. Louis 3  :)
Ottawa 5, Wild 1
Detroit 5, Wild 4


After tonight, I only have one more set of tickets (Wild vs. Calgary) and then, since there are no Cup Playoffs for me, I guess I have to start going to Twins games in April.   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on March 14, 2006, 05:10 PM
Dood, why'd you get stuck with all the Canadian teams :-X
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 14, 2006, 05:16 PM
Dood, why'd you get stuck with all the Canadian teams :-X

Because the NHL saw fit to stick 3 of them in my division...  ::)

I always try to make it to at least 1 game with each of the division rivals each year.  The intensity is pretty good and because we play them so often, the Wild always have a shot to win those games no matter the record of the other team.   ;)

This year though I passed on Colorado in favor of Detroit.  The other 3 games (Phoenix, Ottawa, St. Louis) were all pick-up games from friends who couldn't go and sold me their tickets. 


ps.
Plus, with Canadian Teams you get "O, Canada".  That's two national anthems for the price of one!   :D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 15, 2006, 01:46 PM
I'm off to TN soon to see the Wings/Preds and then Wings/Oilers at the Joe in early April.  I can't wait!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on March 15, 2006, 02:56 PM
Both Budaj and Kolesnik are both good goalies and very solid backups and they should be able to keep the Avs in the playoff race until Theodore gets healthy again. I definitely don't think they've packed it up. The local papers and the Avs website had sme interviews with Pierre Lacroix (our President and GM) and he said that we are going to be very solid in net for the next few years with Theodore being the goalie of the future and we have two young solid backups in Kolesnik and Budaj. Hopefully this all works out, I seem to remember us getting another big name goalie from Montreal a few years back... :)

LOL, but Theodore is no Roy.

I can dream can't I? ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 17, 2006, 03:34 PM
Man, with the Wild being 19-13-2 at home, I sure had some bad luck seeing them win this year. 

Vancouver 3, Wild 1
Phoenix 4, Wild 2
Wild 5, St. Louis 3  :)
Ottawa 5, Wild 1
Detroit 5, Wild 4
Edmonton 2, Wild 1

Record when I have tickets:  1-5-0
And record when I don't go:  18-8-2

Maybe I better stay home next year...   :-[

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 17, 2006, 06:11 PM
Geez Jeff, how do you sleep at night knowing what you're doing to your team?  >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 19, 2006, 03:16 PM
Wings win a big one in a shootout and now they need to beat a slumping Vancouver team tonite.  Dallas is hot on their heels.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2006, 11:09 PM
Whew!  I got to end the year on a win...

Wild 3, Calgary 1.

A great game and three VERY sweet goals from the Wild - Gabby on the PP, Rolson Shorthanded, and Gabby with a sweet empty-netter he flipped over a defenseman to ice it.   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on March 21, 2006, 11:54 PM
It is always good to see Calgary lose. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on March 30, 2006, 10:33 AM
Who's your vote for MVP?

It's got to be Jagr

He's set a new NYR team record for goals and points as well as leading the Rangers to a chance at an Altantic Division title and a 3-seed in the playoff.  Add in the fact that he is currently neck-and-neck with Thornton for the NHL pooints lead and it's pretty hard to find a more deserving candidate this year...
 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on March 30, 2006, 11:00 AM
Lundquist.  I don't think the Rangers play that much D, do they?  Jagr's numbers are great, no doubt, but without Lundquist back there they'd be screwed. 

I also think Lundquist should get the rookie honor, though it'll probably go to Crosby (great player, but undeserving) or Ovechkin (more deserving than Crosby). 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 30, 2006, 02:23 PM
Jagr will certainly get a ton of votes.  It'll be interesting to see if the new rules have any effect on the awards.  Lidstrom is walking away with the Norris if you ask me.

Wings/Preds game 2nite and Jamie and I will be there!  I'm fired up!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 7, 2006, 04:20 AM
I just thought I'd throw this audio clip in here for a smile (may not be safe for work  ;)).

http://www.jedidefender.com/jwall/NHLBit.mp3
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on April 10, 2006, 03:00 PM
Vokoun done for the year. (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=162037&hubname=nhl)

Crap, this beyond sucks. Not having Tomas back for the playoffs is going to be a HUGE obstacle to overcome. I was dreading facing the Ducks in the first round as it was.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 13, 2006, 02:17 AM
I had no idea Vokoun was done until I read the paper yesterday up in Detroit.

My trip to Hockeytown was AMAZING.  The city itself is pretty trashy and run down but just being able to go to the Joe after being a fan for 16 years now was just surreal.  We got there early for warmups and, unlike the Pond and Staples, they let you walk down to the glass to watch.  I got a ton of great pics.  To make it even more awesome, the Wings won by shutout, 2-0.  It was a perfect day for this Wings fan indeed.   ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/WingNut25/Wings%20game/82a1.jpg)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 13, 2006, 04:26 PM
Glad to hear seeing your team was such a blast, Jason.  When I finally got to see the Bruins, they not only lost the game but were shut out.  ::)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on April 14, 2006, 01:32 AM
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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on April 14, 2006, 02:10 AM
(http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Colorado+Avalanche/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/;_ylt=A9iby4C0PD9ExngASQ2jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12hatuu3u/EXP=1145081396/*-http%3A//en.wikipedia.org/upload/1/1b/ColoradoAvalanche_100.png)

:P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 14, 2006, 01:48 PM
I was just looking back at our predictions and I got 7 out of 8 right for the Western Conference (teams, not seedings.)  Once the East is set I'll see how I did.

Wings win their NHL record 11th in a row on the road and extend their NHL record for road victories to 30.  Now they have to avoid the serious injuries that could stop their march toward Cup #11.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 14, 2006, 02:05 PM
Western Conference
1. Detroit Red Wings (Central Division champs)
2. San Jose Sharks (Pacific Division champs)
3. Calgary Flames (Northwest Division champs)
4. Dallas Stars
5. Colorado Avalanche
6. Vancouver Canucks
7. Nashville Predators
8. Minnesota Wild

Looks like I only got 2/3 of the Division winners and 6/8 overall.  Not too shabby I guess.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 15, 2006, 12:11 AM
I was too much of a chicken**** to make any predictions.  :-[
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 17, 2006, 11:22 PM
Quote
Eastern (lame name, go back please) Conference
1. Ottawa Senators
2. Tampa Bay Lightning (goaltending has become a question mark)
3. Pittsburgh Penguins
4. Philadelphia Flyers
5. Boston Bruins
6. New Jersey Devils
7. Atlanta Thrashers (if Kovy signs , without, they drop)
8. Carolina as a surprise - yep, still 5000 fans per night

Western (blech) Conference
1. Detroit Red Wings
2. Nashville Predators
3. Vancouver Canucks
4. San Jose Sharks
5. Colorado Avalanche
6. Dallas Stars
7. Edmonton Oilers
8. Calgary Flames - who will make the playoffs and lose in the first round

Way, way wrong on the Pens :-[ and at the other end of the spectrum on the 'Canes as well :o

What happened to the 'Nucks, aside from sucking?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 18, 2006, 01:57 PM
Crap, this beyond sucks. Not having Tomas back for the playoffs is going to be a HUGE obstacle to overcome. I was dreading facing the Ducks in the first round as it was.

Seems like the Preds are doing OK to me... Mason not only has 5 wins in a row, he even managed to score a goal!   :P


edit:
And, I forgot to mention that I'll be pulling for the Red Wings in the playoffs.  I'd love to see Stevie Y get to go out on top.   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 18, 2006, 02:16 PM
Yeah, who's running that hockey pool, that goal should be worth what? 70, 75 points at least. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 18, 2006, 02:27 PM
My East picks stunk:

1) Philadelphia Flyers (Atlantic Division champs)
2) Boston Bruins (Northeast Division champs)
3) Tampa Bay Lightning (Southeast Division champs)
4) New Jersey Devils
5) Ottawa Senators
6) Toronto Maple Leafs
7) Montreal Canadiens
8 ) Pittsburgh Penguins

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 18, 2006, 02:28 PM
Crap, this beyond sucks. Not having Tomas back for the playoffs is going to be a HUGE obstacle to overcome. I was dreading facing the Ducks in the first round as it was.
edit:
And, I forgot to mention that I'll be pulling for the Red Wings in the playoffs.  I'd love to see Stevie Y get to go out on top.   ;)

I knew there was a reason why I liked you.   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 18, 2006, 03:18 PM
Pens were a huge disappointment this year obviously.  They're looking forward to another high draft pick, and some of our talent that currently is "elsewhere", but overall the year really sucked for us obviously.

On the bright side, Crosby turned out to be better than the expectations put on him.  I think you're wrong that he doesn't deserve top Rookiee honors.  Youngest player to put up 100 points in a season, plus on the worst team of the season, plus that's not going into the leadership qualities he really REALLY exemplified this year.  He stepped up even during their infamous 18 game skid and didn't lose heart despite being shat upon nightly.

I think he's everything he was touted as and more.  He's a single bright spot in a dismal season (though they did improve down the stretch so there's some hope).

Going into the playoffs I'm gonna pull for the Bruins.  They're a team I've always liked...  New Jersey I don't mind either.  I'll stick with an East team just because though, either way.

I just hope any bars I go to have games up and don't flick to other crap like the NBA or anything.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 18, 2006, 03:26 PM
On the bright side, Crosby turned out to be better than the expectations put on him.  I think you're wrong that he doesn't deserve top Rookiee honors.  Youngest player to put up 100 points in a season, plus on the worst team of the season, plus that's not going into the leadership qualities he really REALLY exemplified this year.  He stepped up even during their infamous 18 game skid and didn't lose heart despite being shat upon nightly.

Yeah, I think Sid the Kid would be a lock any other year, but with Ovechkin putting up 105 points (50+ goals) on a team that's almost as bad as the Penguins... going to be a hard call there.

I think since they are so evenly matched, it will come down to the Goals Scored and that will put Ovechkin over the top...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 18, 2006, 04:06 PM
I just hope any bars I go to have games up and don't flick to other crap like the NBA or anything.

If it's anything like Florida, they'll show a women's college basketball blow-out before switching to a hockey game, even when the home team is playing ::)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 18, 2006, 06:46 PM
Depends...  They're Basket and Baseball focused right now, but at the right bars I go to I can push for them to change to ESPN or whoever is covering the playoffs this year.  I got confused with all the changes.

As far as Crosby getting ROTY, I agree with you on that Jeff.  I think that the main thing that makes me wish Sidney got it is that he has displayed amazing leadership.  Qualities that Lemieux showed his Rookie year and stuff...  I don't personally think Ovechkin showed similar qualities, whereas Crosby was practically taking the team by the reigns at 18, and posting point totals right up there with Ovechkin on a team that is slightly worse (not by a lot though, you're right). 

I'm sure Ovechkin will get it...  probably, I don't know.  I'm bad at judging really, who am I kidding.  i thought we were going to be a dominant team this year, or at least competitive, so what do I know. :)  Then again most of the analysts thought the Pens would do well too till everyone realized D WAS important.

Anyway, something you might find interesting Brent...  Pens had one of the best attendance percentages of the NHL this year despite their record.  Not every game was a sell-out but many were and there were lots of season ticket sales...  Despite the ****** play of the team, the people gave support.  Now it's a matter of tax payers doing so by not voting for certain dickheads.

Today a rally was held addressing the 3 casino proposals...  1 is at Station Square which, in my opinion, is overdeveloped as it is at the moment.  The 2nd is planned for the North Shore between Heinz Field and PNC Park...  The 3rd proposal, which actually was the 1st one made ever, is the development of the lower Hill District where the current Melon Arena sits.  It is the ONLY plan the Penguins are backing even though the other 2 plans supposedly have a way to build the Arena.  However the 3rd plan the Pens are for will build the Arena 100% with private money...

Despite that obvious plus, the Allegheny County morons are STILL wanting the money to go to Station Square mostly (the North Shore deal is all but dead).  The guy who owns SS made contributions to the Governor so that's where he's pushing for it to go to.  The Gaming Commission is ultimately who decides though, and I'm really praying they give it to the Penguins.  It's a part of the city that simply needs the money more than the other two (obviously the North SHore with 2 new stadiums doesn't need it, and Station Square is a nightlife focal point in Pittsburgh that's overly crowded every weekend as it is, and worse come summer).

So that's where the Penguin's, and their future here, stands...  It may come down to them simply fearing the political backlash of losing our city one of its major sports franchises...  I just wonder how much they fear that.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 18, 2006, 08:28 PM
Going into the playoffs I'm gonna pull for the Bruins.  They're a team I've always liked...  New Jersey I don't mind either.  I'll stick with an East team just because though, either way.

You realize the B's didn't make it right?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on April 18, 2006, 09:57 PM
I cannot believe the absolute meltdown conducted by the New York Rangers over the past two or three weeks. Three weeks ago I would have said they have a great chance to actually win the Stanley Cup, now I'm just happy they made it to the playoffs. The Devils look like they are gonna win against Montreal now, which would give them the Atlantic Division title, and push them up into third place, and push the Rangers down to sixth place, and end up with a Devils-Rangers first round. Devils on an eleven game win streak, and Rangers on a five game losing streak... doesn't give me much hope.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 18, 2006, 10:22 PM
No actually I didn't realize that...  I thought the Bruins were in?  Now I'm wondering why I thought that.   :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on April 19, 2006, 12:13 AM
I'm absolutely thrilled with how the Preds have rallied around Mason since Vokoun went down, and love the momentum we're carrying into the playoffs. I'll be the first to admit I was seriously bummed when Vokoun went down, but Mason has earned some serious respect over the last six games. The underdog role we have with the rest of the league might really work to our advantage if the Sharks look to walk over us onto the next round. I'd feel more confident if Sullivan and Zidlicky were healthy, but our offense is really clicking right now, and Weber has looked like a freaking stud on the PP unit.

I've got tickets to the first two playoff games, should be an exciting first round! I've never been in a building as loud as the GEC was during the Wings round last season, hopefully we can bring that level of fan interest this time too.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 19, 2006, 12:14 AM
Going into the playoffs I'm gonna pull for the Bruins.  They're a team I've always liked...  New Jersey I don't mind either.  I'll stick with an East team just because though, either way.

You realize the B's didn't make it right?

 >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 19, 2006, 12:48 AM


I've got tickets to the first two playoff games, should be an exciting first round! I've never been in a building as loud as the GEC was during the Wings round last season, hopefully we can bring that level of fan interest this time too.

...because I'm forced to live in the past, you should have come to a game in the old Winnipeg Arena.  Pretty close to making your ears bleed.  It was awesome.  Even Don Cherry was forced to admit it was about the loudest arena he'd ever been in.

Of course better cities like Miami, Tampa and some others have hockey now, much to the benefit of the league.  *******. >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 19, 2006, 01:22 AM
http://www.nhl.com/news/2006/04/269348.html

I guess the rule changes worked.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2006, 01:57 AM
I feel stupid over the Bruins remark.  I am still pondering why I thought they made the playoffs.  Of course, given the Pens have been out of it for a while now, obviously the papers barely mention Hockey unless it revolves around Crosby doing something good or the Arena...

That said, I'm throwing my support to NJ then.  I've always liked them too...  Don't know why, just do, and they're a good solid team (again) this year so why not.  I'd go wtih the Rangers if Jagr hadn't irked me so much before he left...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 19, 2006, 02:00 PM
It's gonna be an interesting playoffs with the rule changes and all.  I don't want to sound like a homer, but I just see the Wings going all the way.  If the refs stay consistent, special teams will be huge and the Wings PP is downright scary.  Their PK ain't bad either.  But I've had high hopes for the Wings before only to see them tripped up by a lesser team.  Bottom line is anything can and usually does happen this time of year. 

Having said that, time for playoff predictions:

West quarters
Wings over Oilers in 4
Stars over Avs in 7
Ducks over Flames in 7
Sharks over Preds in 6

East quarters
Sens over Lightning in 5
Canadiens over Hurricanes in 7
Devils over Rangers in 7
Sabres over Flyers in 6

West semis
Wings over Ducks in 6
Sharks over Stars in 7

East semis
Sens over Canadiens in 5
Sabres over Devils in 6

West Finals
Wings over Sharks in 6

East Finals
Sabres over Sens in 6

Stanley Cup Finals
Wings over Sabres in 6
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 19, 2006, 02:15 PM
I think the Wings are good too and have a really good shot.  But it's going to be a hot goalie, as usual, that drags an otherwise mediocre team kicking and screaming through the playoffs.

West quarters
Wings over Oilers in 6 - I think the Oilers are scrappy
Stars over Avs in 5
Flames over Ducks in 7 - Kipper
Preds over Sharks in 7

East quarters
Sens over Lightning in 6
Hurricanes over Canadiens in 5 - Habs had it going, but messed by using Aebisher too much at the end of year
Devils over Rangers in 7
Sabres over Flyers in 7

West semis
Wings over Flames in 6
Stars over Preds in 7 - I think Turco takes the edge over Mason

East semis
Sens over Hurricanes in 6
Devils over Sabres in 6 - one word: Brodeur

West Finals
Wings over Stars in 5 - late season Stars push runs out of gas

East Finals
Devils over Sens in 7 - goaltending befalls Ottawa.  Again.

Stanley Cup Finals
Devils over Wings in 6 - I just can't go with J.

Stanley Cup Finals
Wings over Sabres in 6
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 19, 2006, 02:57 PM
Brent, the Wings would actually play the Preds in your scenario cause the top seed gets the lowest remaining seed, in this case #4 Nashville not #3 Calgary.  If the Wings get the Preds, I'm SO there.  Get that couch cleaned off Pearman cause I'm comin back!!   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on April 19, 2006, 04:32 PM

West quarters
Wings over Oilers in 6
Avs over Stars in 7
Flames over Ducks in 6
Preds over Sharks in 6

East quarters
Sens over Lightning in 5
Hurricanes over Canadiens in 6
Devils over Rangers in 4
Flyers over Sabres in 7

West semis
Wings over Flames in 7
Avs over Preds in 6

East semis
Hurricanes over Sens in 6
Flyers over Devils in 6

West Finals
Avs over Wings in 7

East Finals
Flyers over Canes in 6

Stanley Cup Finals
Avs over Flyers in 6

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 19, 2006, 05:01 PM
Brent, the Wings would actually play the Preds in your scenario cause the top seed gets the lowest remaining seed, in this case #4 Nashville not #3 Calgary.  If the Wings get the Preds, I'm SO there.  Get that couch cleaned off Pearman cause I'm comin back!!   ;)

I'll fix it later, but thanks for pointing it out ;)  No matter though, I'd still have the Wings making the final.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 19, 2006, 05:06 PM

West quarters
Wings over Oilers in 6
Avs over Stars in 7
Flames over Ducks in 6
Preds over Sharks in 6

East quarters
Sens over Lightning in 5
Hurricanes over Canadiens in 6
Devils over Rangers in 4
Flyers over Sabres in 7

West semis
Wings over Flames in 7
Avs over Preds in 6

East semis
Hurricanes over Sens in 6
Flyers over Devils in 6

West Finals
Avs over Wings in 7

East Finals
Flyers over Canes in 6

Stanley Cup Finals
Avs over Flyers in 6



Not to be a stickler, but like I said on Brent's picks, the top remaining seeds get the lowest remaining seeds, so everything after your 1st round picks is incorrect and impossible.  

In the West, the #1 Wings would actually play the #7 Avs in the 2nd round, #3 Calgary would face #4 Nashvillle.  In the East, the #1 Sens would face the #5 Flyers and the #2 Canes would face the #3 Devils.  

Sorry, just had to point out the obvious.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 19, 2006, 05:09 PM
S'ok, I'm living in the past where they set the seeds and it went from there.  You knew which of two teams you were playing in the next round.  Darn new fangled NHL crap.  **** Bettman ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 19, 2006, 05:12 PM
S'ok, I'm living in the past where they set the seeds and it went from there.  You knew which of two teams you were playing in the next round.  Darn new fangled NHL crap.  **** Bettman ;)

Actually it's been that way for awhile now.  They changed it right around the time they went to generic conferences and the top 3 seeds going to division champs thing.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 19, 2006, 05:30 PM
See, Bettman.  You take away the tradition first by taking away the conference names and make them something lame and simple like East ::)  What's next, a puck with a blue streak or some bull**** like that?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 19, 2006, 06:43 PM
See, Bettman.  You take away the tradition first by taking away the conference names and make them something lame and simple like East ::)  What's next, a puck with a blue streak or some ******** like that?

LOL.  When I was at the Wings game last week, some guy next to me said he couldn't see the puck and his buddy made a crack like "Want me to get the Fox track on that for you?"  I hated that damn thing.

I hope at some point the NHL will go back to the traditional conference and division names.  Hell, they still award the Campbell Bowl and Wales Trophy as is (no name change) so why not drop the East and West labels?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on April 19, 2006, 10:44 PM
Not to be a stickler, but like I said on Brent's picks, the top remaining seeds get the lowest remaining seeds, so everything after your 1st round picks is incorrect and impossible. 

In the West, the #1 Wings would actually play the #7 Avs in the 2nd round, #3 Calgary would face #4 Nashvillle.  In the East, the #1 Sens would face the #5 Flyers and the #2 Canes would face the #3 Devils. 

Sorry, just had to point out the obvious.

I place the blame on Brent. I just copied his post and switched the teams. ;)

I don't know why but for some reason I was thinking the bracket was set up different too, like our was in the fantasy football league.

I guess I'll have to redo those at some point...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on April 19, 2006, 11:17 PM
TSN can lick my balls! (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=548&hubname=) Their Power Rankings this week aren't quite as insane as last week (Preds ranked 20th last week is proof Canada hates us). I'm shocked they actually listed us ahead of Edmonton this time.

I also love how the Wings just "mailed in" that loss last night because they sat Legace, Lidstrom, and Zetterburg. Why not go ahead and blame it on Datsyuk being out too. Oh wait, we were without Vokoun, Sullivan, Zidlicky, Perreault, and Witt. It's not even worth mentioning Hordichuk and Fiddler sat too. Was it a pointless game in the standings? Definitely. Do I believe for a second the Wings wanted to lose to us with the scrub lines we were running and a career minor leaguer goalie? Not a chance.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 19, 2006, 11:29 PM
TSN can lick my balls! (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=548&hubname=) Their Power Rankings this week aren't quite as insane as last week (Preds ranked 20th last week is proof Canada hates us). I'm shocked they actually listed us ahead of Edmonton this time.

I also love how the Wings just "mailed in" that loss last night because they sat Legace, Lidstrom, and Zetterburg. Why not go ahead and blame it on Datsyuk being out too. Oh wait, we were without Vokoun, Sullivan, Zidlicky, Perreault, and Witt. It's not even worth mentioning Hordichuk and Fiddler sat too. Was it a pointless game in the standings? Definitely. Do I believe for a second the Wings wanted to lose to us with the scrub lines we were running and a career minor leaguer goalie? Not a chance.

No one ever just "mails one in."  The only motivation the Wings had was getting out of that game with no injuries.  Everyone plays to win but if you think the Wings brought their A game then you are sadly mistaken amigo.  The Preds needed that win going into the playoffs, the Wings did not.  The Wings just got into serious penalty trouble in the 2nd and considering we were without so many key guys, it was the difference in the game.  I could care less.  The games that matter for my boys start Friday at 7pm EST against Edmonton. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on April 20, 2006, 12:10 AM
You know you would have been crying if you had come out to see that game instead  ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 20, 2006, 12:26 AM
TSN can lick my balls! (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=548&hubname=) Their Power Rankings this week aren't quite as insane as last week (Preds ranked 20th last week is proof Canada hates us). I'm shocked they actually listed us ahead of Edmonton this time.


You are aware that everyone in Canada considers TSN to stand for Toronto Sports Network.  They don't necessarily hate Nashville, they're just sour the Leafs suck.  Yet again. 

They were awful to watch last year with no NHL.  They spent all the time talking about how all the players deserved every cent they made ::)  Blech.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 20, 2006, 01:17 PM
You know you would have been crying if you had come out to see that game instead  ;D

Dude, I'd have been SO pissed if that had been the game I went out for.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 21, 2006, 11:17 PM
MALTBY!!!!  HUGE win to start the series.  The Wings have battled like that all season though.  In recent years past, they would have dropped that game (i.e. series against the Ducks.)  Legace made some amazing saves as well. 

My complaint: the officials totally swallowed the whistles in OT.  That's a bad start to the post season officiating especially after they made that roughing call (a good call BTW) on Shanny with 2 mins to go in the 3rd. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on April 21, 2006, 11:25 PM
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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 22, 2006, 11:06 AM
Man, if the Roli the Goalie that showed up for that Game against the Wings was the same one that played for us, we wouldn't have had to trade him and we would have made he playoffs...  :-\

He did his best to keep the Oilers in it, too bad they let him down.   :(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 22, 2006, 09:13 PM
Kirk Maltby?  Damn, I didn't take him in my pool :-X
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on April 23, 2006, 03:36 PM
:P  (http://www.news-sports.ru/images/logo/hock/32.gif)  :P
 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 23, 2006, 03:50 PM
Two incredibly horrendous turnovers cost the Wings the game today, plain and simple.  Aside from that, the refs are making marginal calls both ways and not calling a lot of obstruction that was getting called during the regular season.  Edmonton has not impressed me one bit in this series and everyone kept saying they are a fast, rushing team yet they look like the '90s Devils to me.  They are playing the trap and breakdowns on OLN and NBC have shown that.  There's no flow to the first 2 games at all.  So much for the "new" NHL. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 23, 2006, 06:37 PM
Edmonton has not impressed me one bit in this series and everyone kept saying they are a fast, rushing team yet they look like the '90s Devils to me. 

Yeah, I heard the NBC guys say a few times that Edmontom was "not playing a trap", but as a fan of a Jaques Lemaire coached team, it looked pretty "trap-esque" to me.

Roli the Goalie had another great game, and yeah - those two turn-overs were very ugly on the Wings part.  Third period was a lot of fun though, man I thought Stevie Y's goal woulda been sweet, but it just caught Roli's skate and them the post.  Too bad for him and the Wings.   :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on April 23, 2006, 08:56 PM
After missing the first game I managed to tune into the Lightning game today - fantastic goals by Boyle and St. Louis in the third - hopefully they can get some wins at home now, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on April 24, 2006, 12:31 AM
Damn, what a ******* mess the Rangers looked like in game 1... 13 penalties. That must be some kind of record. The thing that makes me laugh (and gives me an ounce of hope) is that the Devils scored 6 goals - 5 on the power play, and 1 just as the PP expired. So theoretically, they didn't score any "real" 5-on-5 goals. Now, if the Rangers can stay out of the penalty box tomorrow night, it should be a good game. Then again, if Jagr is out for any extended period of time...  :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 24, 2006, 01:59 AM
Boyle was the wicked wrister, right Rob?  I was catching highlights tonight and thought that was quite a nice goal.  St. Louis' was nice too, but a fairly sloppy rebound and defensive job on the play overall, but Boyle's shot was just raw power...

Is Jagr hurt Dave?  I didn't catch that anywhere so now I'm curious.  He has rampant groin injuries his last couple years here to where it was affecting his entire seasons.  He had such a stellar year in NY this year though that I figured he was his spry young self all over again.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on April 24, 2006, 10:22 AM
Boyle was the wicked wrister, right Rob?  I was catching highlights tonight and thought that was quite a nice goal.  St. Louis' was nice too, but a fairly sloppy rebound and defensive job on the play overall, but Boyle's shot was just raw power...

Boyle scored the 3rd goal, a high wrister after a pretty incredible spin move to get around a defender.

St. Louis had two goals - a one-timer off a steal and a fantastic pass by (I can't remember who but I think it was Richards) and then the one on the rebound - which was impressive only in that he came out of no where to put it back in.

Richards had the other goal - also off a steal I think and he got infront of everyone and then he made it look easy.

Fingers crossed for game 3...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 24, 2006, 09:12 PM
Boyle was the wicked wrister, right Rob?  I was catching highlights tonight and thought that was quite a nice goal.  St. Louis' was nice too, but a fairly sloppy rebound and defensive job on the play overall, but Boyle's shot was just raw power...

Is Jagr hurt Dave?  I didn't catch that anywhere so now I'm curious.  He has rampant groin injuries his last couple years here to where it was affecting his entire seasons.  He had such a stellar year in NY this year though that I figured he was his spry young self all over again.

From the looks of it Jagr messed up his shoulder bad.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on April 24, 2006, 10:45 PM
Yeah, they have him listed as having an "upper body injury", and from what I hear on the radio and such, rumor has it that he seperated the shoulder... which sucks balls. Much like the Rangers did this evening, without him. ******* joke.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 24, 2006, 10:57 PM
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From the looks of it Jagr messed up his shoulder bad.


I just saw the Jagr thing here on highlights a couple minutes ago...  Looked like he was trying to clip Gomez on his way past, and it basically turned around to bite him and hurt his arm...  Not good.  Looked like it hurt...

It's nice OLN at least has some of the games on.  I'm enjoying the Dallas/Colorado game at the moment. 

All the bars have like 1 TV on hockey and all others on Baseball for the Pirates of Basketball for god knows what.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 24, 2006, 11:54 PM
Crazy night of games.  Two hat tricks in the Buffalo route of Philly, John Madden (one of my fav non-Wings) scores a hat trick, Colorado blows a 3 goal lead only to tie it with 2 mins to play and Montreal wins a shootout (not that kind) to go up 2-0 on Carolina.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on April 25, 2006, 01:42 AM
Crazy night of games. Two hat tricks in the Buffalo route of Philly, John Madden (one of my fav non-Wings) scores a hat trick, Colorado blows a 3 goal lead only to tie it with 2 mins to play and Montreal wins a shootout (not that kind) to go up 2-0 on Carolina.

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060425/capt.dna10504250435.avalanche_stars_hockey_dna105.jpg)

 ;D

That was such an exciting game to watch. Both teams played great. The Avs had some horrible luck in the 2nd period on those goals. Those were some of the flukiest plays I've seen in awhile. Mainly that one that popped up about 20 feet straight in the air and landed in the goal.

The Avs blueliners have proved why they were the best offensive D-men in the NHL tonight. They have been fantastic in the series. Blake has had two goals, Clark has had 2 (one was shorthanded to send the game into OT), and 2 by Liles including tonight's OT game winner.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 25, 2006, 05:40 PM
I thought Sakic got credit for the OT winner?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on April 25, 2006, 11:30 PM
**** - the Bolts got destroyed tonight... Should have been 8-5 (not that it matters) but the refs overturned a goal with 11 seconds left saying it was kicked in, it wasn't.

I hope they rebound in game 4 - but I'm not expecting much.

An upgrade at Goaltender should be priority #1 this offseason.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 26, 2006, 02:13 AM
The Wings totally blew that one.  The crappy thing is, my dad, my gf and I were watching the game and after the Oilers scored the OT winner I made the comment (and my dad was thinking the same thing) that it always seems that if one team (in this case the Wings) get all the chances and doesn't score that the other team ends up with the winner.  Legace has really let in some awful goals in this series and that is major cause for concern cause the Wings, when they weren't killing penalties, dominated the play.  Now they play from behind and game 4 is a must win.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on April 26, 2006, 03:15 AM
I thought Sakic got credit for the OT winner?

I think they must have had a stat correction sometime last night. The announcers were saying it was Liles during the game, and he was getting credit for it all during the post game. I guess they said Sakic tipped it right in front, which puts him in 1st place all-time for the most Playoff OT game winners.

The Wings/Oilers game was pretty good tonight. I was glad they made the right call on Jason Williams' under the net goal, it would have been a shame for the game to end like that. The oilers should have had that game in regulation though, they blew it in the third, Though I have to credit Yzerman that was one hell of a face off win on that last goal. It looks like Legace should have been able to catch that last shot instead of just batting it away and allowing a rebound. I heard the announcers saying he told a Detroit paper he knows he will be gone if the Wings don't win the Cup this year.

The Bolts and Sens game was pretty fun to watch too. Lots of goals, lots of fighting. The benches were so empty at the end there. I agree it should have been 8-5, that puck bounced off his shin and there was no kicking motion.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 26, 2006, 01:43 PM
Legace actually said he thought he caught the puck, and if you see the replay he totally let up as if he thought he had it.  He has let in some really bad goals and I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Osgood in there in game 4 but I doubt it'll happen.

The Oilers for most of the series have looked like they want it more but when the Wings turn it on, the Oil have no response for it.  They can't hang with them.  The Oilers have played hard, but the Wings have handed them chances and played really poorly.  They better get it figured out for game 4 cause they let game 2 get away and should have had game 3.  The stars need to step up, especially if Yzerman is out.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on April 26, 2006, 06:02 PM
:P  (http://www.news-sports.ru/images/logo/hock/32.gif)  :P


And the game will be on 1/2 hr. earlier.  (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/sportlich/b020.gif)  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on April 26, 2006, 08:56 PM
Disgraceful. That's all I can say.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 26, 2006, 09:32 PM
Wow, 14 wins in a row by the Devils!  Talk about hitting your stride at the right time of the year!  Can you say Eastern Conference Finals?

Wow, 8 losses in a row by the Rangers!  Ugh.  Can you say...  well, it's hard to say anything when you're choking that hard this time of the year.   :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 27, 2006, 01:29 AM
Rangers didn't look good at all...  I've sorta been rooting for Edmonton and Jersey though, so the Jersey win I was happy with...  I'm throwing support all around though.  This has been a good opening playoff round so far though overall I think.  There's been lots of good games (I love OLN by the way, this has been fun watching games I'd otherwise not have gotten to catch most likely this year).
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 27, 2006, 10:04 PM
10 years without hockey (http://www.winnipegsun.com/Sports/Columnists/Wyman_Ted/2006/04/27/1552924-sun.html).  An interesting read and supposedly there will be a couple more of the next two days.  Not really timely for the playoffs, but it is historic for those of us around here :'(

My only contention is the mediocre attendance statement.  The arena only held around 15000 total and the average was 12-13000.  Considering about 5000 of the seats were ****** in terms of comfort, view and accessibility, I think the statement should be a lot more positive.  There were never padded attendance stats around here, the count was accurate and the lower area was almost always full (~10000), even when it wasn't full, there were folks up in the nosebleeds because of cheaper seating. 

I'm happy that Carolina and Tampa and the like are having better attendance now, but I've still seen far, far too many games in places like those were regular season games would have maybe 6000 in attendance and the league would be reporting 15000 ::).  Half the seats in the lower bowls were empty, no way were they at or near capacity. 

Bitter >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 28, 2006, 12:44 AM
HUGE win for the Wings tonite.  I knew that they would step up and show what they were made of and they got it done.  On an officiating note, some very bad calls against both teams but I was amazed at how undisciplined a game Edmonton played, especially with an opportunity to go up 3-1.  Now they've let the Wings back in the series.  Big mistake.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 28, 2006, 09:28 AM
Yeah, I didn't see it so much as a win by the Wings, but a choke job by the Oilers.  To the Wings credit, they didn't let it slip away when the Oilers offered it to them though...

Lots of bad calls (or missed calls), but man was it just me or did it seem like the Oilers put the Wings on the power play 10 minutes out of the 20 minutes in the 3rd period?  And a couple of those PPs were 5-on-3!

Edmonton had a great shot to go up 3-1, but all those 3rd period penalties just killed them in the end.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 28, 2006, 10:38 AM
A couple more stories in today's paper:

Going thirsty in the desert (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/28/1555156.html)

Who needs the NHL (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/28/1555157.html)

Financial impact minimal (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/28/1555154.html)

Still miss 'em.

Moving out of the past into the present, Ottawa's looking awfully sharp.  Should be quite a showdown when they go up against New Jersey.

Found some other pieces I missed from yesterday's paper:

Only memories remain (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/27/1552721-sun.html)

Ex-Jets ranks are dwindling (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/27/1552722-sun.html) Well, duh ::)

Winnipeg Jets Timeline (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/26/1552042.html)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 29, 2006, 10:43 AM
Jets great Thomas Steen was added to the Coyotes Ring of Honour last January in an effort to recognize the club’s past even though the Jets originally retired Steen’s No. 25 in May 1995.

Vest said the crowd at Glendale Arena was a bit puzzled by the ceremony because virtually no one had heard of Steen and many had no idea the Coyotes were once the Winnipeg Jets.

“I would venture to say that if you were to poll 10 people from Phoenix and ask them where the Coyotes came from, maybe one or two would know,” he said.


It's kinda sad when fans don't know the basic history of their team.  :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 29, 2006, 12:34 PM
Jets great Thomas Steen was added to the Coyotes Ring of Honour last January in an effort to recognize the club’s past even though the Jets originally retired Steen’s No. 25 in May 1995.

Vest said the crowd at Glendale Arena was a bit puzzled by the ceremony because virtually no one had heard of Steen and many had no idea the Coyotes were once the Winnipeg Jets.

“I would venture to say that if you were to poll 10 people from Phoenix and ask them where the Coyotes came from, maybe one or two would know,” he said.


It's kinda sad when fans don't know the basic history of their team.  :-\

That's like everyone I hear referring to Colorado as an expansion team.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on April 29, 2006, 03:32 PM
Jets great Thomas Steen was added to the Coyotes Ring of Honour last January in an effort to recognize the club’s past even though the Jets originally retired Steen’s No. 25 in May 1995.

Vest said the crowd at Glendale Arena was a bit puzzled by the ceremony because virtually no one had heard of Steen and many had no idea the Coyotes were once the Winnipeg Jets.

“I would venture to say that if you were to poll 10 people from Phoenix and ask them where the Coyotes came from, maybe one or two would know,” he said.


It's kinda sad when fans don't know the basic history of their team.  :-\

That's like everyone I hear referring to Colorado as an expansion team.

They must not be from here then. There are actually a lot of people that wear the old throwback Nordique jerseys to games. I think they still sell them in he Pepsi Center's gift shop too.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on April 29, 2006, 05:45 PM
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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 29, 2006, 10:29 PM
Last day of hometown weeping in the paper:

Just cool your Jets (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/29/1556173-sun.html)

Contenders (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/29/1556174-sun.html)

Plenty of competition to relocate franchise (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/JetLag/2006/04/29/1556175-sun.html)

I'll leave you to the playoffs now.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on April 29, 2006, 10:37 PM
Wow...

Roloson:
202 Shots Faced
188 Saves
93.1% Save%
2.42 GAA


Legace:
125 Shots Faced
111 Saves
88.8% Save%
2.43 GAA

The Red Wings are putting a TON of shots on goal, but Roli has been playing fantastic.  Everything looks so evely matched between the two goalies, but Roli is just playing so well... reminds me of 2003.   :D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 29, 2006, 10:53 PM
I wonder who might be a free agent at the end of spring?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on April 30, 2006, 04:44 AM
Is Roloson really 36? I thought he was only in his mid to late 20s?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on April 30, 2006, 05:41 PM
Taking a page out of Dale's book...



:P (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5mmlLlVEUWYBawajzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12pi67u83/EXP=1146519589/**http%3a//www.teamtraveler.com/images/Hockey/colorado_avalanche_2000.gif) :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on April 30, 2006, 06:03 PM
I hope this isn't my last trip to the GEC for the year. I'm about to head out the door (with TN-Daniel for those of you that know him) to watch game five nine rows from the glass. Best seats I've ever had there, so hopefully the extra cash plunked down will assure a victory!

Sully should be back to 100%, we're only running 6 Dmen tonight so Zids must be healthy, and Yanic is supposed to be back so hopefully all of this adds up to a big win. I don't want the season to be over yet  :-[
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 30, 2006, 06:40 PM
I hear you Jamie.  I don't want my team's season to be over yet either.  I got the rare opportunity to see them play 3 times this year in 3 different cities (LA, Nashville and Detroit) and would have seen them against the Ducks on March 1st but I had just been transferred and that store had inventory that night.  Otherwise, it would have been 4 games in 4 cities against 4 different opponents and they won all 4.  Instead it was 3, 3 and 3.  Pretty awesome.  The Wings have had an amazing season and proved all the critics wrong who said the "new" NHL would be the end of the Wings.  I'm just frustrated with how the Wings have not made adjustments (not crashing the net for one), not played well in front of their own net and have gotten average goaltending.  Monday will show what they are made of...or else it's over.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 30, 2006, 11:49 PM
I hope this isn't my last trip to the GEC for the year. I'm about to head out the door (with TN-Daniel for those of you that know him) to watch game five nine rows from the glass. Best seats I've ever had there, so hopefully the extra cash plunked down will assure a victory!

Sully should be back to 100%, we're only running 6 Dmen tonight so Zids must be healthy, and Yanic is supposed to be back so hopefully all of this adds up to a big win. I don't want the season to be over yet  :-[

Ouch. :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on May 1, 2006, 12:06 AM
Well that was a bitter pill to swallow. The Sharks absolutely outplayed us starting the 2nd game of the series.

That said, the officiating in this series was the worst I have ever seen. We got whistled for more five on three's in the span of four games than we did of the course of our last forty regular season games. San Jose's PP unit was unstoppable, and their PK unit was (usually) even better. We got manhandled, plain and simple. Size mattered in this series, and we were lacking it.

I'm seriously bummed, October can't come soon enough. I'm praying to the hockey gods that we dump every center we have except for Sillenger and maybe Yanic, and go after someone with some size. Johnson and Legwand must go. Worthless, totally and completely worthless.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on May 1, 2006, 02:16 AM

West quarters
Wings over Oilers in 6
Avs over Stars in 7
Flames over Ducks in 6
Preds over Sharks in 6

East quarters
Sens over Lightning in 5
Hurricanes over Canadiens in 6
Devils over Rangers in 4
Flyers over Sabres in 7


Not to be a stickler, but like I said on Brent's picks, the top remaining seeds get the lowest remaining seeds, so everything after your 1st round picks is incorrect and impossible. 

In the West, the #1 Wings would actually play the #7 Avs in the 2nd round, #3 Calgary would face #4 Nashvillle.  In the East, the #1 Sens would face the #5 Flyers and the #2 Canes would face the #3 Devils. 

Sorry, just had to point out the obvious.

I guess I never updated my picks after the first round:

West semis
Avs over Wings in 7
Flames over Preds in 6

East semis
Sens over Flyers in 6
Devils over Canes in 6

West Finals
Avs over Flames in 6

East Finals
Devils over Sens in 6

Stanley Cup Finals
Avs over Devils in 7

I've done pretty good in the first round so far, my second round pick is off already though because Nashville lost, but i would have had them losing 2nd round anyways.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 1, 2006, 11:49 AM
I watched a bit of the Avs/Stars game yesterday.

Sure looked like when Modano went down it just deflated the Stars.  They kind of limped into OT and then just didn't have enough offense to win it.

Makes me feel a little bit better about the Wild's average season - the Northwest division is representing itself well!   :D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 1, 2006, 10:41 PM
The Wings just got screwed on the Oilers 3rd goal.  Horcoff knocked the puck down with a high stick and Hemsky dragged his left foot to direct the puck in.  Total bull****!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 1, 2006, 10:49 PM
The Wings just got screwed on the Oilers 3rd goal.  Horcoff knocked the puck down with a high stick and Hemsky dragged his left foot to direct the puck in.  Total bull****!

Ahhnn no!  :P  Wings suck & that's no bull****!

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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on May 1, 2006, 10:53 PM
I've been watching the game...  I'm not so sure on that goal HoloE, I think that was the right call myself...  The guy's drug into the net by Lidstrom and I couldn't see the puck anywhere near his skate, so I don't know.  I'm curious to see it later though.

Dale I could almost hear you coming in...

Good game...  The action this playoff has been so superior to years past.  I think of the games today compared to the debacle in '93 when I was mother f'n the TV nightly because of the clutch & grab bs the Islanders did to the Pens... 

I'm loving OLN too, it just needs to be said.  I've been really happy with them all season and the playoff coverage is great. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 1, 2006, 11:02 PM
An amazing season has come to an end far too soon.  Hats off to the Wings for proving everyone wrong and still being a powerhouse in the "new" NHL, but once again they let a lesser talented team outwork them ala Calgary and Anaheim.  I'm really, really sad right now cause I thought the Wings were Stanley Cup bound.  Bottom line is they got outworked by a team that just wanted it more, and with the leadership and veteran presence on the Wings, that's just unacceptable.  Changes need to be made and the first one will be in net, mark my words.  Hats off to the Oilers for bringing their A game and then some.

I stand by my call that the 3rd goal was BS and Smyth dove to draw the penalty (which the Oil's homer announcers called a "good veteran move"   ::)), but no excuses.  It should have never got to that point.  The Wings had a 2-0 lead in the third, the Oil had no life and the building was silent.  Williams took an awful (and that's being nice) penalty and that PP goal gave the Oilers life and momentum.  The Oilers got a gift down 3-2 but again, the Wings should never have let it get to that point.  Time to go drown my sorrows and look forward to October.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 1, 2006, 11:07 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahooooooooooooooooo!

Come on Calgary, let the battle of Alberta begin!  ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on May 1, 2006, 11:53 PM
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Smyth dove to draw the penalty

Yeah that was about as blatant a dive as one could imagine...  I thought the penalty was called when he fell behind the net though, not the dive in front.  I thought the arm went up when he had his skates taken from under him behind the net but I don't know now.

Same with the kicked goal...  I don't think it was but I didn't see it replayed a lot, just a couple times, so I could just as easily be wrong.  It just looked from what I saw like the puck wasn't even near his skate when he was being driven into the net...

Either way though it was a really exciting game.  Flip flopped back and forth a couple times.  Fun to watch for sure.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 2, 2006, 12:10 AM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 2, 2006, 11:58 AM
From the Detroit News (so true):

Mike Babcock said the parity in the new NHL has ensured the amount of upsets and first-round struggles of many higher seeds in the league.

Wings players agree, noting Dallas and Nashville losing over the weekend to lower seeds (Colorado and San Jose, respectively).

"Hockey is a little different than any other sport," Dan Cleary said. "It doesn't matter if it's a 2 against 7, or 1 against 8, anything can happen over a seven-game series. It's been proven already in the playoffs. If you're the higher seed, it's not a cakewalk."

So why is it, the higher seeds struggle so badly?

"I wish I knew," Tomas Holmstrom said. "Maybe because they've been battling for the last month and they've been in this grind and have to win every night. Anything can happen in overtime, when the games go into overtime."


Holmstrom said it best.  These teams that are fighting for their lives and make the playoffs carry considerable momentum with them while teams like Dallas and Detroit have been resting players since they already wrapped up spots.  But the parity in the new NHL is apparent.  You can kinda throw the seeds out the window. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jokabofe on May 2, 2006, 10:18 PM
You can kinda throw the seeds out the window. 

It's always been like that in any major sport, but moreso in the NHL. It's not like this is the first time that a #1 seed has been taken out by a #8 seed. The playoffs are always a "fresh start" to the season, so to speak. Anything can happen. And it usually does.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 3, 2006, 10:13 AM
You can kinda throw the seeds out the window. 

Unless of course, it's the Eastenr Conference.   :P

Pretty strange how it's all working out...

East
#1  Ottawa advances...
#2  Carolina advances...
#3  New Jersey advances...
#4  Buffalo advances...

West
#5  San Jose advances...
#7  Colorado advances...
#8  Edmontom advances...

And, with Calgary/Anaheim making it to 7 games, there is a good chance that the #6 from the West can make it.   :D

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 4, 2006, 09:46 AM
And, with Calgary/Anaheim making it to 7 games, there is a good chance that the #6 from the West can make it.   :D

How about that!

I heard that this was the first time since 1974 that the four top seeds in a conference were eliminated in the first round.   :o

East
#1  Ottawa
vs.
#4  Buffalo

#2  Carolina
vs.
#3  New Jersey


West
#5  San Jose
vs.
#8  Edmontom

#6  Anaheim
vs.
#7  Colorado
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 8, 2006, 12:06 PM
Quack quack, Ryan.  Quack quack.   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on May 8, 2006, 04:51 PM

I'm seriously bummed, October can't come soon enough. I'm praying to the hockey gods that we dump every center we have except for Sillenger and maybe Yanic, and go after someone with some size. Johnson and Legwand must go. Worthless, totally and completely worthless.

Some good news in the offseason Zidlicky for 4 years (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=predatorszidlicky&prov=st&type=lgns)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on May 8, 2006, 11:46 PM
Quack quack, Ryan. Quack quack. ;)

So how are Wings doing in the second round...oh wait... :P

As for the Avs they're not out of it yet. The Avs played terrible in game 1 and didn't desverve to win that one. But giving credit where credit due, Bryzgolov has been incredible. He stole game 2 for the Ducks.

The Avs need to come out and get a first period goal quickly in game 3. If they don't score within the first 2 periods they might as well pack it in for the season. I think if the Avs can take this next one they still have a chance. All year long they have never given up and have had quite a few really good comebacks, granted it is much tougher to comeback in a playoff series, but I wouldn't count them out just yet.


Anyone else catch the Devils and Canes game tonight? That was an absolutely incredible ending.

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on May 9, 2006, 11:55 PM
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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 10, 2006, 12:08 AM
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Been there, done that.  :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 10, 2006, 02:19 PM
C'mon the Sharks....Bite 'em!

..(2 bites left) 8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 10, 2006, 08:45 PM
Bite me!  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 10, 2006, 09:39 PM
 ;D  The series isn't over yet, Dale. Lot to play still.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 11, 2006, 02:40 AM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!

Shark fin soup for me for lunch tomorrow!  :-*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on May 12, 2006, 01:15 PM
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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 12, 2006, 09:37 PM
 :o   :o   :o   8)

Damn, this is a great series!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 12, 2006, 10:44 PM
C'mon the Sharks....Bite 'em!

..(2 bites left) 8)

Ahem! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Kubricks/NannerNanner2.gif)


Come on shark boy... bite me!  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/LOLSide.gif)

Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!

Series tied!  ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 12, 2006, 11:41 PM
I think that whole "Smyth getting hit in the face with a puck, getting 8 stiches and losing three teeth only to come back into the game to set up the game-winning goal" was HUGE in shifting the momentum in this series.

Sharks didn't look like the same team, maybe the home crowd kept the Oilers in it, but the Sharks just were too spent from the 3OT game and just wanted to go back home... well, back to SJ we go.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 13, 2006, 02:24 PM
Yep! Come on the Sharks--NO MORE OILER UPSETS!!!!

*please*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on May 14, 2006, 11:20 PM
How to make me an Oiler fan, in one easy lesson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-oilers-sharks-anthem&prov=ap&type=lgns).  Inexcusable >:(  Maybe they can fly a flag upside down next.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 14, 2006, 11:24 PM
Hockey fans... my ass!  >:(

Shark fin soup for everyone!  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 15, 2006, 12:45 AM
Oilers lead the series 3-2.  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Nanner1.gif)

Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Darth Kenobi on May 15, 2006, 11:51 AM
How to make me an Oiler fan, in one easy lesson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-oilers-sharks-anthem&prov=ap&type=lgns).  Inexcusable >:(  Maybe they can fly a flag upside down next.

People like that are idoits.  I would never boo another countries anthem because I would never want my anthem booed.  Too many times the US teams have been booed or had other items like the Mexico Soccer game where the crowds started chanting "Osama" and booing the Star Spangle Banner.  People who do that (booing another team's anthem) need to be throwing out.  If you don't want to sing it fine but don't boo while the people are singing it. 

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on May 15, 2006, 12:46 PM
Now I have even greater motivation for pulling for the Oilers. Totally classless, just like their coach.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on May 15, 2006, 03:54 PM
Stealing a page from Dale....



Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!

I've got to pull for the Northwest Division, especially after reading that article about the San Jose fans.

In the east I'm pulling for Carolina. For some reason I'm drawn to Carolina teams, and I've never even been there. The panthers are my second favorite NFL team, and the Canes are getting there in the NHL.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jedi Idej on May 15, 2006, 04:38 PM
Oops, our bad. We thought you were from Texas and singing that state's anthem. Change your team name.

Kidding.  :)

Not much of a hockey fan so I haven't followed the games. Surprised to hear about what happened. Read some boards that the booing (by a small but  vocal percentage) was in retaliation for what they considered a disrespect by some Canadians during the playing of the Star Spangled Banner before game 3. Basically not keeping silent during the singing, chants cheering the Oilers, and finally some booing at the tail end of the anthem.

Bush league by anyone on either side doing any booing.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 15, 2006, 04:48 PM
In the east I'm pulling for Carolina.
[snip]  and the Canes are getting there in the NHL.

It's because deep down, everyone loves the Whale.

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 15, 2006, 10:49 PM
I had Buffalo and Detroit in the Finals so I'm sticking with the Sabres.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 15, 2006, 11:25 PM
I'm pulling for the Sabres too.  They've been perennial underdogs, so it's great to see them have a great season and I think they deserve to bring the cup home to their fans. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on May 15, 2006, 11:47 PM
Sabres won't win, someone will kick the puck in the net in OT of game 6 or something totally unrealistic like that.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on May 16, 2006, 12:13 AM
I loathe Carolina so I can't root for them, but Buffalo's hardly on my hot list...  The east sucks puck this year to me.  I was all for Jersey but man they looked like ****.

The booing at San Jose has me rooting for the Oilers now too...  Screw the sharks fans if that's what is there.  Though I do hope it was a vast, loud, minority that were booing.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 16, 2006, 12:20 AM
I really hate to see what will happen here Wednesday during the US anthem.  :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 16, 2006, 12:37 AM
I really hate to see what will happen here Wednesday during the US anthem.  :-\

I hope they will show what it means to have class and NOT boo.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on May 16, 2006, 12:42 AM
It'll be interesting to hear actually...  I know I've heard some Canadians boo the US Anthem at games before, and I've heard the same in reverse...  I don't think it's anything more than some classless bad judgment in San Jose by overzealous fans...  And again I hope they were the minority.

Still I'm rooting for Edmonton on this one...  I was anyway, but this whole thing didn't endear me to San Jose.

Edited to fix my spelling for the whiney Canuckleheads.  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 16, 2006, 12:54 AM
And again I hope they were the minority.

Yeah, based on that article, it sounds like it was a minority booing.  Unfortunately, they were a loud minority, so they were still heard.  I imagine a lot of people in San Jose are ashamed of those that did it.  Like I said, the temptation would be so strong to boo back when they visit Edmonton, but it would be nice to see Oilers fans be above that.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 16, 2006, 01:16 AM
This is what really gets me, sure this happens in other cities in the past & will still go on in the future. Remember  the Vancouver riot back in 1994.  :-\

Stabbings, beatings mar celebration (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Playoffs/Edmonton/2006/05/14/1579512-sun.html)

Check out the pics, keep me employed ya bastards!

Round 2: Violence on Whyte (http://edmsun.canoe.ca/PhotoGalleries/Whyte/2006/05/13/1580989.html)

Check out the clip of the celebration on Whyte ave after beating Detroit in game 6.

Edmonton Oilers 2006 Playoff Whyte Ave Party (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y-cJew1p9NI&search=whyte%20oilers)

Sure have fun & enjoy the win but do you have to destroy property & act like baboons!  >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on May 16, 2006, 03:34 AM
Did anyone let your city know they didn't win yet? :)

That's how it went here when the Pens were winning playoff series, though the way the arena's set up it didn't affect anything dramatically and I don't recall damage happening even the nights we won cups...  It probably helped not having the championships in Pittsburgh.

For the Steelers...  Not much problem either ironically.  There was a tally of arrests on the news, and really there weren't many, the only place any fires erupted were out in Oakland where the colleges (Pitt, CMU, etc.) are and it was the usual lighting of the couch on the lawn more than anything else...  No cars or anything.

The big party spots of the city were packed with people but arrests were amazingly relatively small and for petty stuff, and the tally said 80% of arrests were people from out of town in for the festivities rather than actual residents of the city...  It went smoothly.  It was a mad house, but a smooth one I guess.  I think there was probably more shenanigans during the Pens winning playoff years actually...  My favorite night was Game 1 of the Bruins series in 1992 that Jagr won in overtime.  That was the nuttiest celebration for sports I've ever been in the midst of...  It was really great and I even remember being stuck in traffic on the way out with Jagr right beside me.  To a kid that was a great night. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: stormie on May 16, 2006, 09:36 AM
I imagine a lot of people in San Jose are ashamed of those that did it.

yup.  :(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 16, 2006, 01:25 PM
Yeah I'm pissed that some classless idiots did that too >:(. I am a Shark fan forever. I can say though that I'm not so shallow that ..had I not been a shark fan...When I recognized a few fans doing this watching the game, I certainly wouldn't chastise the team or hate them for what few fans done. Seriously? what did the sharks players do? So, hate the team now because a few fans suck?

Edmonton looks lined up to win this series. They seem to have more will at this point to do so. If this is the case than the better team won then. However, I will keep rooting for the Sharks. They had a good comeback year especially after the first few months the way they started :(.


 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on May 16, 2006, 02:24 PM
Winnipeg fans may have the tops in classlessness though.  In the very last game of NHL hockey played in the Winnipeg Arena, the Detroit Red Wings defeated the Winnipeg Jets in the sixth game of the opening round series.  Some classy fans decided to heap derision upon the departing Wings players.  And by derision I mean pouring beer  and throwing bottles (where those came from I have no idea as beer was only sold in plastic cups) at them as they left the ice.  A great way to show that Bettman had indeed made the correct choice in pulling the team from Winnipeg ::) 

Again, a minority, but the representatives of that time and a lasting memory. 

I have also been to a game at the Montreal Forum where a bunch of Quebecois would not stand for either of the anthems playing.  Go on, leave Canada, see how the US welcomes you with open arms you lazy *******. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 16, 2006, 02:34 PM
Beer throwing? LOL- I saw that at a meaningless late season Oakland raiders football game a few years ago. The Jaguars TE caught a TD in the corner of the end zone as momentum carried him out of the end zone towards the stands,  I could see several (I mean like 20-30) fans throw beer cups(full of beer-whatta waste), spit and yelling obscenities at the player-who then took a look back then ran to his sideline.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 16, 2006, 11:02 PM
Sharks not impressed (http://edmsun.canoe.ca/Sports/Oilers/2006/05/16/1582239-sun.html)

Shame on booing fans (http://edmsun.canoe.ca/News/Edmonton/2006/05/16/1582187-sun.html)

If there is booing tomorrow night, those are not fans but pain ******* idiots.  >:(

I have an American & Canadian background & I know the US anthem off by heart, as for the Canadian anthem... I can't even remember all the words & that's pretty sad.  :-[
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 17, 2006, 12:50 PM
Hell even I know the Canadian national anthem.  I watch too much hockey.   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 17, 2006, 01:51 PM
I love having three Canuckian temas in our division, because we get O Canada at a fair number of home games. 

I think there should be a law that if you're going to be a hockey fan, the least you can do is learn the Canadian national anthem.   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 17, 2006, 08:08 PM
The only theme I know off by heart is our 2nd national anthem, the Hockey Night in Canada theme.  ;D

Dun dun dunn da-dahhh!

As for the fans tonight, bravo. They cheered the US anthem.  :)

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/I%20Am%20Canadian.jpg)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 17, 2006, 10:43 PM
Oilers win the series 4-2.  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Nanner1.gif) (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Nanner1.gif)


Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!

Thanks for playing Sharks, come again!  :-*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 17, 2006, 10:44 PM
14 ******* years! I am in tears!  8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 17, 2006, 11:21 PM
This city is on fire!  ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 18, 2006, 10:25 AM
14 ******* years! I am in tears!

Wuss...  ::)


Things are looking good for Anahiem I guess - the last time they were in the Conference finals they advanced by whupping a low seeded team from the Northwest division with Roloson in goal...   Maybe this is Roli's chance to redeem himself?  :(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 19, 2006, 11:42 PM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 21, 2006, 11:31 PM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 22, 2006, 12:04 AM
From the Edmonton Sun:

Quote
The Anaheim Mighty Ducks have not defeated the Edmonton Oilers at Rexall Place since 1999.

The Ducks have yet to beat the Oilers this season. The closest they came was a 6-5 shootout loss in February.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on May 22, 2006, 12:51 AM
You going to either of the next two games Dale?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 22, 2006, 01:08 AM
I wish, they went on sale yesterday & sold out fast. Hell standing room is commanding big bucks.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 23, 2006, 10:59 PM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!

Oilers lead the series 3-0.

Come on Thursday, time to send the Ducks south for the season! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)

This city is on fire! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 23, 2006, 11:31 PM
Wow, what a game.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 24, 2006, 12:11 AM
Wow, what a game.

And series!  ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 24, 2006, 02:11 PM
Wow, what a game.

And series!  ;)

For you anyway.   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 25, 2006, 01:44 PM
So, game 4, in Edmonton, tonight.

I can't help thinking that the 2006 1st round pick we got in trade for Roloson is going to end up being the 30th overall pick in the draft.   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 25, 2006, 10:46 PM
So, game 4, in Edmonton, tonight.

Ahhh, make that game 5 in the pond.  :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 27, 2006, 11:36 PM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!

Oilers win the series 4-1.

 We are going to the Stanley Cup Finals!  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 28, 2006, 12:52 AM
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on May 28, 2006, 02:36 AM
Congrats go out to Edmonton. That sure was one hell of a tip on the game winner.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on May 28, 2006, 10:33 AM
We are going to the Stanley Cup Finals!  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)

Congrats to Edmonton... have you guys had much luck in the Cup Finals before?   :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 28, 2006, 12:29 PM
Congrats to Edmonton... have you guys had much luck in the Cup Finals before?   :P

Only once without some guy named Gretzky.  I think he was supposed to be a pretty good player.  ;)

Actually, now that I think about it, the last time Edmonton won the cup was in 89 when they beat my Bruins.  I change my mind.  Boo Edmonton.  >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 28, 2006, 12:44 PM
1989-90, 4–1 against the Bruins in 5 games.  :P  Oilers 5th Stanley Cup in 7 years.

Gretzky, oh yeah, isn't that the guy LA tried to buy the cup!  :-X
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 28, 2006, 02:25 PM
So how much did you cry last night Dale?   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 28, 2006, 04:13 PM
Not! I'm as sick as some of the players with the ******* flu!  :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on May 28, 2006, 04:19 PM
Not! I'm as sick as some of the players with the ******* flu!  :-\

I'm just getting over it myself. It sure wasn't fun.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on May 29, 2006, 08:51 PM
This is absolutely pathetic! Trashing the city once again!  >:(  ::)

Last straw!
'Will not be tolerated,' says Mayor Mandel as officials consider closing Whyte Avenue (http://edmsun.canoe.ca/News/Edmonton/2006/05/29/1603372-sun.html)

Below are pictures of the ******** that have no lives!

Round 3: The last straw? (http://www.edmontonsun.com/PhotoGalleries/Whyte2/2006/05/28/1602907.html)

******* punks!  >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on May 29, 2006, 11:38 PM
Not much different than any protester or supporter of anything, there's always some anarchist/******** that are fueled on their choice of drug and will use anything as an excuse to destroy property.   ::)  They should be embarassed but more likely they are proud of themselves. 

The city ought to grab the dude that's jumping on the phone booth and make him pay for it, whether he tore it down or not.  Probably wouldn't find him doing it again any time soon if that happened.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 30, 2006, 05:55 PM
That sucks.

Go Sabres tonite!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 1, 2006, 10:10 PM
Hurricanes & Oilers in the final... bring it on!  :P

Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 2, 2006, 12:49 PM
Show of hands who picked the Oilers and Hurricanes at the beginning of the season to be playing for the Stanley Cup.  Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Yeah, that's what I thought.  NO ONE picked that Finals matchup and unfortunately no one will be watching it outside of Raleigh and Edmonton.  I think it will be a good series but I also said that about the Wings vs Flyers in 97 and look what my boys did in that one. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 2, 2006, 12:56 PM
NO ONE picked that Finals matchup and unfortunately no one will be watching it outside of Raleigh and Edmonton.

I definitely couldn't have picked the Oilers and 'Canes to be in the Cup final, but I think you're wrong about who will be watching.  When there's a Canadian team in the final, most Canuckians are glad to cheer them on.  Go Oilers!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on June 2, 2006, 01:31 PM
There's a team with redneck fans in the finals so I'll be rooting for the 'Canes. God bless southern hockey.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 5, 2006, 12:45 PM
NO ONE picked that Finals matchup and unfortunately no one will be watching it outside of Raleigh and Edmonton.

I definitely couldn't have picked the Oilers and 'Canes to be in the Cup final, but I think you're wrong about who will be watching.  When there's a Canadian team in the final, most Canuckians are glad to cheer them on.  Go Oilers!

Well it's a given all of Canada will be watching but in the US, outside of Raleigh, who is gonna care?  Only true die-hard fans will watch.  It's a great scenario for the league in the sense that you have 2 teams who were able to spend thanks to the new cap and be successful in the "new" NHL, yet you have 2 teams that don't draw so the ratings could be terrible. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 5, 2006, 06:50 PM
If it was just the American teams in the final then it would be different, not likely. Hell this is hockey countrie, Canada would still watch!  :P  :-*

Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 5, 2006, 09:30 PM
Penalty shot!   ;D   8)   :-*
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 5, 2006, 10:17 PM
3-3!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 5, 2006, 10:23 PM
This is hockey!  ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 5, 2006, 11:02 PM
What a game!  I haven't seen a game like that in the Finals since game 2 of the 1998 Final between Detroit and Washington. 

Cam Ward was amazing tonite.  I can't believe Bergeron cross checked Ladd into his own goalie.  That could cost the Oilers the series if Roloson is out for more than the rest of game 1.  Can you imagine?

EDIT: MacTavish just announced at the press conference that Roloson is "Not good and wont be back for the series."    :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 5, 2006, 11:18 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 5, 2006, 11:40 PM
I can't believe Bergeron cross checked Ladd into his own goalie.  That could cost the Oilers the series if Roloson is out for more than the rest of game 1.  Can you imagine?

No doubt!

If Roli is really out as the early reports say, this could be a HUGE problem for Edmonton since Conklin hasn't played in weeks and isn't really that great to begin with...

My original pick was Edmonton in 6, but without Roli this thing could be Carolina in 5.   :-\

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 6, 2006, 01:07 PM
Oilers are done.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 6, 2006, 05:54 PM
Cup cloak & dagger? (http://www2.sportsnet.ca/blogs/darren_dreger/2006/06/06/cup_cloak_dagger/)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 6, 2006, 08:00 PM
Cup cloak & dagger? (http://www2.sportsnet.ca/blogs/darren_dreger/2006/06/06/cup_cloak_dagger/)

I'd love to see him be right about this.  The return of Roloson after supposedly being unable to skate again would be an amazing morale booster and momentum swing.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 6, 2006, 10:30 PM
LOL.  That's nothing more than some Canadian columnist trying to resurrect the hopes of Edmonton fans who know the end is near.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 7, 2006, 11:32 PM
Wow.  Cam Ward looked GREAT.

Markkanen looked... like Ty Conklin would have looked - BAD.  I don't think it would have mattered which of the two it was, as Carolina looked pretty invincible. 

Off to Edmonton I guess and if things keep rolling, I doubt we get back to Raleigh. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on June 8, 2006, 12:22 AM
Oilers are done.

Ayup.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 8, 2006, 03:14 AM
Wow.  Cam Ward looked GREAT.

No kidding.  A shut-out in the finals?  Very impressive.  I think Edmonton was so concerned about their own goaltending that they forgot how to score goals.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 8, 2006, 08:49 AM
Oilers are done.

Ayup.

Ditto.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 10, 2006, 10:46 PM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 10, 2006, 11:37 PM
Wow, that crowd sure lifted the Oilers - looked like those folks were having a good time.   :)

Great game though.  Hopefully Jussi can keep rolling since he seems to have found a groove and seems to have shaken off the rust. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 12, 2006, 01:05 AM
Pretty good game, but the Oilers definitely seems to be scrambling at times.  Winning 2-1 after the 'Canes tied it has to be a huge confidence booster.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on June 12, 2006, 06:48 PM
That was a great game...  This year's playoffs have been fantastic actually.  I've had more fun watching this year than I have the past 10 years easily.  Great high-energy games.  I'm a little disappointed with who wound up in the finals but that's neither here nor there to me ultimately, I just am enjoying good games again.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 12, 2006, 10:55 PM
Great game.  Carolina headin home w/ a chance to win the Cup.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 12, 2006, 11:01 PM
Ah yup!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on June 12, 2006, 11:38 PM
Cory Stillman, back to back Cup rings.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Tracy on June 13, 2006, 06:22 AM
I'm still having a hard time wrapping my mind around the fact that North Carolina has a good chance of winning the Cup.  We're still in shock that we had a chance at the Super Bowl.

The local news did a funny story about the Southern Hospitality the Canadians were receiving.  They were having a ball tailgaiting with the 'Canes fans and eating up all of our Eastern BBQ and drinking our CheerWine......
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on June 14, 2006, 10:47 PM
OT :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 14, 2006, 10:48 PM
Man, this is hockey!  :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 14, 2006, 11:07 PM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2006, 11:08 PM
Shorthanded in OT?!

Holy ****!   :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on June 14, 2006, 11:08 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 14, 2006, 11:09 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2006, 11:37 PM
 :o

I love OT in the Cup Finals.   :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on June 15, 2006, 12:03 AM
I thought my father was gonna need a paramedic...  Very anti-Carolina. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Vator on June 15, 2006, 01:55 AM
You know, before Hockey clogged all of the local stations tonight, I had no idea that South Carolina even had a hockey team. Go figure.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on June 15, 2006, 02:08 AM
Most of South Carolina were probably in a similar situation till they found out they were in the finals.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Vator on June 15, 2006, 02:30 AM
We were, and stranger still, our being in the finals really didn't garner much of the local media's attention...or at least, it didn't in my area, so far as I saw. But hey, it's pretty awesome that Carolina made it to the finals, irrespective of the fact that they were eventually defeated.

Go Carolina!  8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Darth Slothus on June 15, 2006, 01:02 PM
DSJ? still feel oilers are done :-X?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 15, 2006, 09:26 PM
DSJ? still feel oilers are done :-X?

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Zip.gif)   ;)

See you all Saturday nite.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 17, 2006, 10:24 PM
Man!  After just getting robbed on that last 3-on-1, they come right back.

3 - 0 !   :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 17, 2006, 10:25 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on June 17, 2006, 10:29 PM
Unreal.  You couldn't have convinced me of this a week ago. :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 17, 2006, 10:32 PM
That's why you have to finish teams when you smell blood.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 17, 2006, 10:41 PM
FOUR!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 17, 2006, 10:42 PM
 ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on June 17, 2006, 10:45 PM
Well I'll concede Edmonton has the momentum now, but it is going back to Raleigh for game 7.  It will be interesting to see the fans down there.  I'm certain they'll be up for it, but I wonder how they'll respond if the Hurricanes go down by a goal or two early? 

I'll say this for the Hurricanes though, I thought they were done in the first round as well and they ended up winning that, so we'll see.  I love game 7's :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 17, 2006, 10:53 PM
Go Oilers Go! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/bart-moon.gif) (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/bart-moon.gif) (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Oilers%20Girl.gif) Go Oilers Go!


Hurricanes Shut Out!  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)


Game 7! Monday Night!   (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/Smileys/classic/shocked.gif)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 17, 2006, 10:59 PM
Wow, I really didn't expect Jussi to step up the way he has.  The whole team just played at 110% tonight and the crowd was a HUGE help too I think.

Also on the subject of the unexpected, I wasn't expecting Erik Cole to show up tonight... 

I hadn't even heard anything more about him since he got hurt.  It was nice to see him back out there after that nasty neck injury.  Carolina fans have that nugget of good news at least.

I love game 7's :)

Ditto!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 17, 2006, 11:30 PM
I just came from outside since my last post, man you should hear the noise! (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Opening%20Figures/Party%20Time.gif)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 18, 2006, 05:24 AM
What a commanding win for Edmonton.  I definitely know what I'm watching on Monday night!   8)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 18, 2006, 02:31 PM
Game 7 for the Cup.  Gotta love it!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 19, 2006, 10:51 PM
C'est la vie!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on June 19, 2006, 10:52 PM
Sorry Dale...  My old man and I were rooting for the Oilers...   :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 19, 2006, 10:59 PM
Wow, what a finish!

Intensity right to the end.  Congrats to Carolina!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Cory Chaos on June 19, 2006, 11:13 PM
I remember when the RBC Center was being built. I worked at the building adjecent to it, thinking "We're getting a hockey team? Why?" 9 years later, looks like it lasted afterall.

Congrats 'Canes!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Tracy on June 19, 2006, 11:21 PM
Way to go 'Canes.

Sorry to do this to you Dale, but I DID copy this from your post after the Oilers won game 6......

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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 19, 2006, 11:26 PM
Way to go 'Canes.

Sorry to do this to you Dale, but I DID copy this from your post after the Oilers won game 7...

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Oilers won game 7? I must have missed that game!  :-*   (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Nanner3.gif)

Nice edit!

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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 19, 2006, 11:27 PM
Great series and congrats to Carolina.  Since the Oilers took out the Wings I was glad to see them go down.  Interesting that the last 3 teams to beat the Wings in the playoffs all got to game 7 of the Cup Finals and lost. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 19, 2006, 11:27 PM
Congrats 'Canes!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Tracy on June 19, 2006, 11:30 PM
Way to go 'Canes.

Sorry to do this to you Dale, but I DID copy this from your post after the Oilers won game 7...

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Oilers won game 7? I must have missed that game!  :-*   (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Nanner3.gif)

Nice edit!

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Darth%20Vader/Nanner2.gif)

You are fast on the trigger....... :P

 ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 19, 2006, 11:31 PM
You are fast on the trigger....... :P

 ;)

 :-X
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Tracy on June 19, 2006, 11:34 PM
I see it didn't take you long to change your Avatar back........

Would you have kept your old one if Edmonton had won?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 19, 2006, 11:39 PM
Till I got back from work the next day, I missed Bouncy Bouncy. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 20, 2006, 05:12 PM
Not Cup related, but looking forward to next year already...

The Wild announced their 06/07 pre-season games (http://www.wild.com/team/Press.asp?story_id=4804) today:

"The Wild opens its preseason schedule with home games against Detroit on Tuesday, September 19 and St. Louis on Thursday, September 21."


See that Jason?  My next chance to see the Red Wings is only 91 days away!  ;D  :P
 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 22, 2006, 12:55 PM
NHL Award Show 2nite.  Time to make the predictions.  Here's the list of finalists for the various awards (my picks in bold.)

CALDER MEMORIAL TROPHY (outstanding rookie):
Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins
Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals
Dion Phaneuf, Calgary Flames

FRANK J. SELKE TROPHY (outstanding defensive forward):
Rod Brind'Amour, Carolina Hurricanes
Mike Fisher, Ottawa Senators
Jere Lehtinen, Dallas Stars

HART MEMORIAL TROPHY (most valuable player to his team):
Jaromir Jagr, New York Rangers
Miikka Kiprusoff, Calgary Flames
Joe Thornton, San Jose Sharks

JACK ADAMS AWARD (outstanding coach):
Peter Laviolette, Carolina Hurricanes
Tom Renney, New York Rangers
Lindy Ruff, Buffalo Sabres

JAMES NORRIS MEMORIAL TROPHY (outstanding defenseman):
Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit Red Wings
Scott Niedermayer, Anaheim Mighty Ducks
Sergei Zubov, Dallas Stars

LADY BYNG MEMORIAL TROPHY (sportsmanship and gentlemanly conduct):
Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings
Patrick Marleau, San Jose Sharks
Brad Richards, Tampa Bay Lightning

LESTER B. PEARSON AWARD (most outstanding player as voted by fellow members of the NHLPA):
Jaromir Jagr, New York Rangers
Alexander Ovechkin Washington Capitals
Joe Thornton, San Jose Sharks

VEZINA TROPHY (outstanding goaltender):
Martin Brodeur, New Jersey Devils
Miikka Kiprusoff, Calgary Flames
Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers

Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 22, 2006, 10:01 PM
I only missed one (the Pearson.)  Not bad if I do say so myself.   ;)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on June 23, 2006, 07:36 PM
Preds offer Shea Weber to Penguins for 2nd pick. (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Draft/2006/06/23/1649491-sun.html)

I really hope this doesn't happen. Weber is poised to be a great d-man, and actually has some size. If we do this, AND don't resign Witt, I'm going to be severely bummed. Our team is too small with both of these guys, we can't afford to dump either of them.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 23, 2006, 10:38 PM
Preds offer Shea Weber to Penguins for 2nd pick. (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Draft/2006/06/23/1649491-sun.html)

I really hope this doesn't happen. Weber is poised to be a great d-man, and actually has some size. If we do this, AND don't resign Witt, I'm going to be severely bummed. Our team is too small with both of these guys, we can't afford to dump either of them.

With the prospect of having Erik Johnson or Phil Kessel, I seriously doubt the Pens pull the trigger on this one.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 23, 2006, 10:56 PM
Nothing on the big sites yet but rumor is that Bertuzzi is going to FLA for Luongo.  Others involved.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 23, 2006, 10:58 PM
Canucks swap Bertuzzi for Luongo in multiplayer trade (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2498872)

"The Vancouver Canucks have acquired goaltender Roberto Luongo, defenseman Lukas Krajicek and a sixth-round pick in Saturday's NHL draft from the Florida Panthers in exchange for Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen and Alex Auld."


Rats.  I'll miss booing Bertuzzi when the Canucks come to town.   :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 23, 2006, 11:21 PM
So much for the Wings getting Luongo.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on June 24, 2006, 08:00 PM
I love draft day trades!

Pavol Demitra!  I can already see him along side Gaborik!   ;D

(ps.  Yes, I am dorky enough to watch the draft on OLN.   :P)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on June 24, 2006, 08:50 PM
(ps.  Yes, I am dorky enough to watch the draft on OLN.   :P)

That's why I love you guys.  You actually care about this game beyond the playoffs.  Thank you. 

I watched a good chunk of it today as well.

Interested to see what happens with Luongo and Bertuzzi in a year when they're both unrestricted free agents.  I think the Canucks gave up a good, young goalie in Auld though I'm not sure he'll ever be a prime time goalie.  Shedding Bertuzzi was a good move though. 

Going back to the draft....

No surprise at #1, good pick by the Blues.

I was surprised to see Kessel drop to #5 though I didn't rate his a number 2.  I think Pittsburgh made an amazingly intelligent pick in getting Staal jr.  Between Crosby, Staal and Malkin they have an incredible young nucleus.  My guess is at some point one guy will be traded to fill a hole (goaltending?  defense?) but they could be an amazing scoring team in a very short time, sort of like we expected out of them this year :P

The third pick was pretty cool to see - Jonathon Toews, a kid from Winnipeg.  I've never met him, but he grew up in my old neighbourhood and my dad knows his dad.  Not sure how pleased I'd be going to Chicago, but being picked number 3 is fantastic news for him. 

I wonder how many first rounders will stick this year?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 24, 2006, 09:20 PM
I had to sleep since I work tonite so I TiVo'd it and I'm watching it now.   ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on June 24, 2006, 09:32 PM
I didn't watch the draft past the Pens, I just wanted to see if they went with Staal or Kessel since that's what it was rumored down to here...  I almost sorta wished they had picked Kessel because with Crosby's assists, I think Kessel would've been better than what he'd dropped to...

I think Staal's gonna be a fine choice though too, so I'm not disappointed.  The benefit of having a **** team all year...  I'm actually excited again for a new season now that '05-'06 is done, but yeah the Pens need to work on some other areas first...

Honestly, goaltending isn't so much one of them...  We have goaltenders, it's just a matter of using them instead of trying to cut playing time to avoid bonuses and stuff.  Fleury's a good netminder though...  I think they're gonna look at goalies though, but I just don't think it'll be quite as hard as one might expect.

They'll really need to cover defense...  It was picking up at the end of the season but the fact remains we have a small defensive core with little experienced defensive defensemen out there...

And I'm still pissed they kept Le Claire over Recchi...  Ugh.

But anyway I'm anxious for another season now as a Pen's fan...  I just hope I don't hit a brick wall with my enthusiasm like I did this past year.  :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 29, 2006, 02:10 PM
TSN is saying Luongo signing for 4 years at $27 million is a done deal.  Very surprised that he would sign being a year away from having his pick of teams.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on June 30, 2006, 01:46 AM
Penguin fans are PISSED off tonight...

Fox Sports fired Mike Lange, the Pen's voice since as far back as I can remember...  The guy is a legend in this town.  It'd be like saying Myron Cope got fired from calling Steeler games instead of stepping down himself.  It's utter bull**** despite what he may or may not make.  The guy's a legend announcer and a HUGE part of hockey here...

he's been offered the radio gig while Paul Steigerwald (Steigie's are sports guys locally and big into the hockey scene in this area) who was the radio announcer and Lange's old colorman is now taking over the TV game calling.  He's not a good play-by-play though for hockey.  Very monotone.  Better colorman for Lange.

Lange, I hope, takes the radio gig and I'm gonna skip watching them on TV to listen tot hem on the radio then.

In other Penguin's news, Dan Marino is among a group wanting to buy the Penguin's and keep them in Pittsburgh irregardless of how the slot's license pans out... 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 1, 2006, 01:03 PM
Well scratch my back with a hacksaw!   :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 1, 2006, 03:27 PM
The free agent madness has begun!!!

Langenbrunner re-signs with the Devils.
Roloson re-signs w/ the Oilers.
Zdeno Chara and Marc Savard to Boston.   :o
Jovanovski to Phoenix.   :o
Kubina and Hal Gill to the Leafs. 

It's D-man Saturday apparently.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on July 1, 2006, 06:36 PM
The Avs have resigned Clark and Skrastins to multiyear deals. They'd better hurry up and sign Blake. Blake has said he wants to stay, but at the same time his agent says they want to test the waters. I will be royally pissed if we lose Blake especially after the year he had after the Olympic break and during the playoff run.

If the Avs don't do anything with the cap room freed up after trading Tanguay, I'll be equally as pissed.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 1, 2006, 08:49 PM
Rob Blake is returning to the Kings!  That's awesome.
Osgood back with the Wings.
Mark Parrish to the Wild.
Lalime to Chicago.
Martin Gerber and Joe Corvo to the Sens.
Willie Mitchell to the Canucks.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 1, 2006, 11:46 PM
Elias staying in New Jersey.  I believe it was 7 years for $42 million, so they stepped up to keep him.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on July 2, 2006, 12:16 AM

Lalime to Chicago.


Uh, Chicago having a hard time figuring out goaltending?  I know Khabibulin was a bit disappointing and I'm probably the biggest apologist out there for Lalime, but why?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on July 2, 2006, 11:57 AM
I'm really confused what the Wings are doing with their goaltending. Are they honestly going with Osgood as #1?
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 2, 2006, 01:00 PM
I'm really confused what the Wings are doing with their goaltending. Are they honestly going with Osgood as #1?

I'm not sure what they have in mind.  You had to think Gerber was a target and Biron from Buffalo continues to be mentioned.  Maybe they are ready to hand the team over to Jimmy Howard. 
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on July 2, 2006, 02:47 PM
Rob Blake is returning to the Kings!  That's awesome.


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Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on July 2, 2006, 05:02 PM
Roloson signed a 3 year contract to stay around & Pisani a 4 year. Pronger, yeah whatever!
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 2, 2006, 11:00 PM
Roloson signed a 3 year contract to stay around & Pisani a 4 year. Pronger, yeah whatever!

Dale, heard any of the Pronger rumors up there?  Guys on Spawn are saying the hot rumor making the rounds is Pronger got someone within the organization pregnant so his wife wants him out of Edmonton.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Morgbug on July 2, 2006, 11:12 PM
I'd heard it was a female member of the media.  I'd also heard mention that the agent for Pronger said the trade request was a family related issue :-X
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on July 2, 2006, 11:15 PM
Roloson signed a 3 year contract to stay around & Pisani a 4 year. Pronger, yeah whatever!

Dale, heard any of the Pronger rumors up there?  Guys on Spawn are saying the hot rumor making the rounds is Pronger got someone within the organization pregnant so his wife wants him out of Edmonton.

We should know what's going on Tuesday.

Pronger to clear the air? (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20060630_190947_5664)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on July 2, 2006, 11:28 PM
Roloson signed a 3 year contract to stay around & Pisani a 4 year. Pronger, yeah whatever!

Dale, heard any of the Pronger rumors up there? Guys on Spawn are saying the hot rumor making the rounds is Pronger got someone within the organization pregnant so his wife wants him out of Edmonton.

I heard a rumor about a week ago that the Avs maybe interested in Pronger. Whether or not that's true I can't say, but they need someone to try and fill in Blake's shoes, I think Pronger maybe a good fit.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on July 2, 2006, 11:41 PM
Here's the latest:

Jason Arnott signs a five year deal with the Preds (I'll bet Jamie is happy about that one ;))
Martin Straka Resigns with the Rangers
Mike Sillenger signs with the Islanders
Shean Donovan signs with the Boston Bruins
Doug Weight returns to St. Louis
Ruslan Salei signs with Florida
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on July 2, 2006, 11:51 PM
I'd heard it was a female member of the media.  I'd also heard mention that the agent for Pronger said the trade request was a family related issue :-X

From Christie Chorley's Official Site (http://www.christiechorley.com/)

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OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM CHRISTIE CHORLEY

JUNE 29, 2006

ANY RUMORS AND/OR SPECULATION ABOUT MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CURRENT CHRIS PRONGER SITUATION IS COMPLETELY, ONE-HUNDRED PERCENT FALSE.

I would appreciate your help in putting an end to my name being linked to this situation, as it is completely WITHOUT ANY MERIT OR FACTUAL BASIS.

Any further slander or defamation can and will result in swift legal action.

Thank you.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on July 3, 2006, 01:03 AM
That's the angry message of a guilty woman. :)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on July 3, 2006, 01:12 AM
(http://www.fatbargain.net/uploaded_images/justice-706104.jpg)
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 3, 2006, 12:18 PM
TSN is saying Pronger has been dealt to Anaheim for Lupul, a prospect and picks.

They are also reporting that the Wings are going to make "a major annoucement" today about Yzerman's future and the rumor is that he's gonna retire.    :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 3, 2006, 02:26 PM
The Captain has officially retired.  That guy was the epitome of class and leadership.  He was truly one of a kind and the reason I am a Wings fan.  He will be dearly missed.  I'm just thankful I got to see him play at the Joe this past season.  That was a dream come true.  I HAVE to be at his jersey retirement ceremony.  What an awful morning.   :'(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: jjks on July 3, 2006, 03:24 PM
On a brighter note...


(http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/5653/arnott23eh.jpg)

Happy times in NV for sure!  ;D
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on July 3, 2006, 05:44 PM
TSN is saying Pronger has been dealt to Anaheim for Lupul, a prospect and picks.

Yep, he's outta here. Not much for Pronger's interview that I read today.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jesse James on July 5, 2006, 01:13 PM
The Pen's GM has basically said they're not going to go signing people randomly so it looks like no improvements are gonna happen here...  Well nothing major at the very least.

On another note a new group is wanting to buy the Pen's and keep them in Pittsburgh if the Plan A Isle of Capri deal falls through and the current ownership abandons the team or attempts moving them...  This new group is the same one with Dan Marino (among others) involved.  Sounds like someone's gonna pick up the slack I just hope Lemieux stays involved either way though, as he's too big an icon to not have "in" with the team in one way or another.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 6, 2006, 11:54 AM
I'm not at all surprised to see the Pens quiet.  They got burned by their signings last summer and the ownership situation is unsettled. 

It looks like the Wings may offer Belfour a contract.  I hate that guy and now I'm gonna have to like him.   >:(
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on July 6, 2006, 10:57 PM
It looks like the Wings may offer Belfour a contract. I hate that guy and now I'm gonna have to like him. >:(

You could just hate the Wings instead...  :P
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 7, 2006, 01:30 PM
It looks like the Wings may offer Belfour a contract. I hate that guy and now I'm gonna have to like him. >:(

You could just hate the Wings instead...  :P

Uh, no.  It's a smart move though since Howard is the goalie of the future.  Just bring in a solid goalie in Belfour for a rumored $500K instead of giving up a player on the roster for someone expensive (like Giguere or Nabokov) and let them keep the crease warm for a year or 2.  It's low risk, high reward.
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Jeff on September 12, 2006, 12:18 PM
Holy crap.

Rick DiPietro re-signed with the New York Islanders on Tuesday, agreeing to a record 15-year deal that will pay the No. 1 goalie $67.5 million. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2584306)

Now THAT's committment to your goalie... or just sheer madness.   :o
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: Ryan on September 12, 2006, 04:55 PM
15 years? Wow. That's insane. How many years has DiPietro been in the league? Or maybe I should ask how old he is? 15 years almost seems too long...
Title: Re: NHL 2005-2006 Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 12, 2006, 10:16 PM
15 years, that must be a record.  I guess he's set until he's 40.
Title: NHL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on September 15, 2006, 04:33 PM
I'm digging this  (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Auh6CTeaf1qFB0BrbXjY.7N7vLYF?slug=cnnsi-commissionerfor&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns) :P
Title: Re: NHL 2006-07
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 16, 2006, 12:59 PM
I'm digging this  (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Auh6CTeaf1qFB0BrbXjY.7N7vLYF?slug=cnnsi-commissionerfor&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns) :P

Very interesting read.  Can you imagine the response if they put a team back in Quebec City before Winnipeg?  ;)

And just as an aside, I never noticed they pulled the names off the refs jerseys.  He makes a good point that it dehumanizes them.