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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Original Trilogy Collection => Topic started by: Mikey D on February 13, 2004, 08:34 AM
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Dagabah and Bespin figs (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.headlines/id.1004/dn/default.cfm)
SW Hasbro has updated their site with the new Dagabah and Bespin waves. They also include an update on the OT collection with a pic of carded Han and boxed Millenium Falcon.
Dagabah wave includes Luke, Yoda, Spirit Ben and mud R2.
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Excellent heads up Mike. They look good to me except for that statue Luke Dagobah >:(. We definitely need a neutral pose on this one. The POTF2 version sucks beyond belief, and although the gimmick on the new one is cool, it just does not cut it.
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(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/84778_Luke.jpg)
(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/84779_Yoda.jpg)
(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/84780_obiwan.jpg)
(http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/images/news/84781_R2D2.jpg)
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WHAT!
Where the heck is the over-exaggerated stance on Lobot?
:P
Seriously, what a great way to start Toy Fair!
I love those figures!!!
Jeff
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Wow, this was a nice surprise today... I figured we'd have to wait until Sunday to find out anything. These figures really look great. I'll definitely be buying each and every one of them. I kind of hope the Dagobah Luke has some sort of interchangable head/arms too, but it is hard to tell. It looks great in that pose, but I'd hate to have it only be able to do that pose and no others. Maybe we'll find out more in a couple of days! Both of these waves look great though.
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Does that Yoda have a repainted Episode1 Yoda head? Hopefully the pose is what is making him look wierd. He just looks a little tall & skinny. And is that Luke's backpack next to him? I can't really see him fitting in there.
I really hope there are going to be some interchangeable arms and head on Luke. I mean, why else would Luke's backpack be included with Yoda? Plus, the stance of his legs almost seem to imply that he's meant to be able to stand straight up. I'll be crossing my fingers on this one.
Spirit of Obi-Wan is awesome! This is a figure I've wanted for a long time, and finally we'll be getting it. Sweeeeeet....
R2 Looks much better than the one that came with the Dagobah X-Wing. I'll be picking him up for sure.
Bespin Leia looks superb, as does the Cloud Car Pilot (hoping for a Cloud Car with this one).
Lobot. About frickin' time. Very cool that he comes with some accessories too. I'm psyched!
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One bone I have is Luke's hair when standing how that gonna look with it all standing up???
The other is the lack of a softgoods cloak on Yoda which I think would have been awesome. Somehow he doesn't looks quite right, it's hard to get the bulkiness of the cloak in plastic I think
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Hmmm...
I took the Dagobah Luke photo and flipped it upside down in photshop.
Maybe one of the JD dudes could post an image like that fora ll to comment on....
The hair definately looks wierd standing upright. Also, I noticed that the picture, when turned upside down it gives Luke a "Hulk Smash!" look. It's actually pretty funny...
Jeff
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/dagoupright.jpg)
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(http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/000Images/aim/atlas7201.jpg)
Atlas was a Titan who supported heaven with his shoulders as a punishment for fighting against the gods in the war between the gods and the giants.
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I kind of hope the Dagobah Luke has some sort of interchangable head/arms too, but it is hard to tell.
I'm really thinking that Hasbro's going to get this one right for some reason - maybe 'cause they've been restoring my faith of late, and proving to me that they're listening to what we really want. If this does wind up being a one-pose wonder, it'll still be a very cool figure IMO. But I'd obviously like it to be able to work both ways, and I really think it will...
There's two options here that Hasbro may go for. One, it looks like this is going to be one of those "ball jointed" heads that we've been seeing lately, which you can actually just pop right off of the neck "stick" quite easily. So with that in mind, it'd be very easy to make this Luke have interchangeable heads in that respect. The question is whether Hasbro would want to include another loose head in the blister, which might look a little wierd/freaky to some people. But definitely do-able. I suppose they could do the same things with his arms as well, like a couple of the C-3POs we've gotten in the past. Perhaps the apparent lack of any other accessories with this figure, lends itself to some of these interchangeable body parts as the accessories instead... 8)
The other option is just for a dual-release type of thing, ala the head swapped RFTs and IOs we got last year, or the newer Dignitary/Outlander Club figures that shared parts recently. Yeah, it'd be a little strange to be buying two different Dagobah Lukes so close together, but I'd definitely do it to get one in the "force pose" and a seperate one in a neutral stance. That'd be A-OK with me too! 8)
But even with the prospect of just one-pose, this figure looks awesome. I'm a little disappointed that we don't have any of the boxes or gadgets for him to levitate, but I guess I can borrow some from the Dagobah X-Wing. And like Ed mentioned, I think with the inclusion of the backpack with Yoda, there's definitely got to be a neutrally posed Luke coming somehow...
Does that Yoda have a repainted Episode1 Yoda head?
That's kinda what I was thinkin' too, Ed. :-\ The rest of him looks great, but I really hope they get his head to look a little better, 'cause I definitely don't want to be reminded of one of the inferior Prequel Yodas when I'm looking at this OT version...
The Holographic Ben looks great too! I wouldn't mind a little blueish tint around the edges somehow, but other than that, I'm digging their new approach to Ben's spirit. Makes the old blue one look down right stupid!
R2 was pretty much exactly how I was hoping he'd be - all yucked up with heaps of mud and grime. I like that they're not just spraying it on like the atrocious one that came with the X-Wing, but rather applying it in a much more realistic manner. Hopefully they'll also toss in with R2 a few of the boxes and gadgets that Luke levitates.
Cool connecting bases as well. Great wave all around, but the potential to be really incredible if Hasbro gets some interchangeable parts on Luke, and a new Yoda noggin too!
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This is the BEST wave EVER. Ever. I hold out hope like JediMac that Luke is not frozen in that pose. At long last we get great versions of Obi Wan and Yoda, and surely they'll reuse that Obi for a living one from ANH later.
So so so happy. :)
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Damn, those look good! Except for the Yoda, I don't really like the facial expressions. Oh well, I'll buy it anyway!
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Eh, I don't see what the big deal is. Where's the awesome action features and pegs in their backs??? :P
What a great bunch of figures, seriously! I've always wanted a Jedi Training Luke posed like this, so even if its a 1-poser, I'm OK with it. I'm sure Yoda will look better hunched over his cane. Obi is perfect, and R2 is the version I've wanted for a long, long time. Good god, what coolness!
And best of all, themed STANDS return. I really wish they'd get consistent and do this 100% of the time. They add a ton of value for me.
And what a crappy day to have the cable modem out all day. I've had to wait till now to see.
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Great figures, if not a little "specific" for scenes. The Luke, at the very least, is awesome custom fodder for a good Luke. I'm wondering if hollowing a Bespin Duel Luke's head will work for a headswap? And if there's some way to give new hands to him, or if those ones are poseable?
I'm gonna take the images and blow them up to see what I can make out as far as articulation goes.
The Luke looks great though, for what it is, and the Yoda is indeed a great figure.
I still wanted a Yoda with soft goods, removable belt, and a cloth backpack though. :( I'm disappointed somewhat with him in that regard, but have wanted to do a custom anyway using a new Yoda's head (this one will work) and the vintage Yoda's pieces otherwise. Have to make the pack myself though, unless that one works well (it looks great).
The Dagobah R2 is WAY better than the one with the Red 5 X-Wing... If he has a 3rd leg, and all ankles are poseable, then he'll be fodder as well. Astromech repaints galore.
The Spirit Ben rocks. Much needed, and great figure. I love it... Can't wait to nab him. I wonder if they'll ever make one sitting for his moments in ROTJ when revealing to Luke the story of his father and everything?
That's a far superior transluscent figure than the Holographic Luke that just released. Too bad it's not as nice as the Kenobi.
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ah! most people complained about how much they hated the new holo luke, but no one cares that this obi-wan looks like a polished pearl? I HATE THAT OBI-WAN!
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That backpack for Yoda looks so small that I don't think even his head would fit in it!
Anyway though, I like the looks of this wave. I've always wanted a Luke like that, I think it would have been great to make the Luke and Yoda in an Ultra 2-pk like that and then release a different Luke later with repositioned arms and a new head. Guess Hasbro wasn't on the same page as me on that one though. ;)
As for R2, I will get one, but I can easily customize my own that way (which I did). So to me it's not overly necessary but I do think they did a good job with it.
Yoda looks a tad too tall and skinny, and yes his backpack looks like it was made for a smaller midget than Yoda.
Obi Wan is the prize of this wave though to me. What a fantastic sculpt; I pray that we get another release of this figure without the bluish tint, so he can be a neutral posed Obi Wan from ANH as well.
Overall I think this is a great looking wave, not as exciting to me as the recent Tatoone/Jabba's Palace/Yavin waves, but still very, very nice.
:P
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I wasn't a fan of Holo Luke until I saw it in person, while the scale is waaaay off, the detail and paint job and effect was awesome IMO, so I'll gladly buy this new Spirit Of~ figure
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it just goes to show: no one likes a figure until it isnt luke. im the only luke fan in the universe!
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Nah, I'm a big Luke fan too, there aren't too many of us though. There have been tons of Luke goodness this year already!
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2004: The Year of Luke ;D
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I dunno. The only one I'm really digging right now is Yoda. Hopefully Luke will have some interchangeable extremities. Obi-Wan's a 'meh' figure for me, and R2's pretty good.
Doesn't matter, I'll be buying them all anyway like the pitiful overeager consumer I am. :)
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Well, it looks like Dagobah Luke does have alternate arms/head. Doesn't look too articulated, but the sculpt is nice. You can see more shots of the Dagobah wave here, courtesy of GH:
Dagobah Wave Shots (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=2345&zoneid=2)
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those are awesome!!! I was hoping every one was right about the alternate arms and head. That is truly amazing that that figure is from the same company that brought us some of the early autraucities from 2003!
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I kind of hope the Dagobah Luke has some sort of interchangable head/arms too, but it is hard to tell.
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I'm really thinking that Hasbro's going to get this one right for some reason - maybe 'cause they've been restoring my faith of late, and proving to me that they're listening to what we really want. If this does wind up being a one-pose wonder, it'll still be a very cool figure IMO. But I'd obviously like it to be able to work both ways, and I really think it will...
;D 8)
Absolutely beautiful news to wake up to this morning. Hasbro really does get it now. I'll assume the extra limbs and noggin will be included as "accessories" for now, but even if it's a completely seperate figure, that's still fine. The important thing is that Hasbro now realizes that we don't want just one-pose wonders. Of course, it looks like we'll be stuck with two one pose wonders instead now, but that's cool. Who knows, maybe they'll throw in a third set of neutral arms as well! 8)
Just nice to have one of those "feel good" collecting moments to see Hasbro doing this - kind of like when they announced the Blue and Brown Coat Hoth Hans... :)
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That was a nice treat for this morning. Luke completely exceeds my expectations now. I'll take 2 reallly good poses.
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Like Matt said, I could see these maybe being released as two seperate figures too. I just have a hard time picturing a carded Luke with a severed head next to him in the box...not to mention the arms. Who knows though. I don't have any problems with them being two seperate figures, as long as they aren't too hard to find (one version or the other, or both).
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Fantastic. ;D Luke pole vaults to the head of the pack IMO.
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So it looks to me like Yoda will fit into his backpack perfectly if the figure detaches at the waist - if you look at the pic, the backpack and Yoda's torso are the exact same shape and dims.
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Yikes! Interesting observation there Jared... I didn't even compare the size of Yoda to the accompanying backpack. Doesn't look like a very good fit, for sure. Your scenario might be possible, but even if only the top half of Yoda was in the backpack, it'd still probably look odd that the rest of his body would not likely appear to fit inside the remaining space (even if it's not technically in there).
Hmm... Perhaps some mild cause for concern here... ???
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It looks to me like Luke's arms are part of the base, which makes sense for stability reasons. I just hope this isn't going to be a new trend for Hasbro...interchangeable limbs instead of improved articulation.
Also, that Dagobah R2 is not as good as it seems. Its an April 23rd R2 with brown paint on him. The days of me buying R2 units without their center legs are over. I'll find an extra R2 Holo Leia and make a better Dagobah R2. Does the head even turn on that original SAGA R2?
I think Obi-Wan is sharp, and I like the looks of Yoda. I think once he's posed correctly, he'll look great.
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Like Matt said, I could see these maybe being released as two seperate figures too.
I concur.
It'd be strange to see arms and head as "accessories". I too bet they are gonna go the double-release route with this guy...
Jeff
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Like Matt said, I could see these maybe being released as two seperate figures too.
I concur.
It'd be strange to see arms and head as "accessories". I too bet they are gonna go the double-release route with this guy...
Jeff
Makes good business sense to do this. 75% of the figure is identical and the paint is same, so costs are minimal. Cardback will be identical, bubble might need minor changes. Incredibly inexpensive way to double your margin (nearly double).
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Looks like those who guessed about the "split in half" Yoda were correct, also news about the extra head/arms with Luke:
(from Hasbro)
Question: What's with Luke and that pose in the Dagobah wave?
Answer: The Luke figure in the Dagobah wave comes with an extra set of arms and head, so he does NOT always have to be posed doing a headstand. Also, the Yoda figure is meant to interact with the Luke figure (similar to the Wampa and Luke Hoth). The backpack fits on Luke and Yoda separates at the waist so that he looks correct when sitting in the backpack.
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Wow. I really thought they'd be two figures.
Kudos, Hasbro! Of course, I still think it's weird to get a free head and arms as "accessories...
I'll probably still buy two so I can have one of each pose set up on the shelves. I'm such a dork.
Jeff
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Yikes! Interesting observation there Jared... I didn't even compare the size of Yoda to the accompanying backpack. Doesn't look like a very good fit, for sure. Your scenario might be possible, but even if only the top half of Yoda was in the backpack, it'd still probably look odd that the rest of his body would not likely appear to fit inside the remaining space (even if it's not technically in there).
Hmm... Perhaps some mild cause for concern here... ???
From the Hasbro Damage Control Department:
Also, the Yoda figure is meant to interact with the Luke figure (similar to the Wampa and Luke Hoth). The backpack fits on Luke and Yoda separates at the waist so that he looks correct when sitting in the backpack.
8)
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There's two options here that Hasbro may go for. One, it looks like this is going to be one of those "ball jointed" heads that we've been seeing lately, which you can actually just pop right off of the neck "stick" quite easily. So with that in mind, it'd be very easy to make this Luke have interchangeable heads in that respect. The question is whether Hasbro would want to include another loose head in the blister, which might look a little wierd/freaky to some people. But definitely do-able. I suppose they could do the same things with his arms as well, like a couple of the C-3POs we've gotten in the past. Perhaps the apparent lack of any other accessories with this figure, lends itself to some of these interchangeable body parts as the accessories instead... 8)
Indeed! 8) Looks like the extra arms and noggin for Luke will be included within the figure's bubble, according to this blurb from Hasbro today:
Question: What's with Luke and that pose in the Dagobah wave?
Answer: The Luke figure in the Dagobah wave comes with an extra set of arms and head, so he does NOT always have to be posed doing a headstand. Also, the Yoda figure is meant to interact with the Luke figure (similar to the Wampa and Luke Hoth). The backpack fits on Luke and Yoda separates at the waist so that he looks correct when sitting in the backpack.
Looks like Jared nailed that latter part too:
So it looks to me like Yoda will fit into his backpack perfectly if the figure detaches at the waist - if you look at the pic, the backpack and Yoda's torso are the exact same shape and dims.
Good deal that we won't have to actually buy two separate Luke figures here. Way to go Hasbro! Job well done on this one! 8)
EDIT: Duh. ::) Somehow I pulled this thread up in the middle, and didn't see all of today's responses in it... :-[
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Great news about Luke and Yoda. I'll still be buying two of each anyhow, to display in both their poses.
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Yeah, funny, I'll end up buying two openers of each now, too. Have to display them both ways.
I hope they figure this out again and start giving us "consumer-level variations". This could be a benefit to army builders. It would have solved my main beef with the Imperial Officier pose - the arms. I still want a completley neutral stance.
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what are the odds that they will pack this sucker both ways - 1 upside down and 1 regular... forcing people like me to actually buy 4 of this guy (2 carded since they will be different - and 2 loose, since he will be different)? i'd put money on it....
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:o Shhhssssh!!!! Don't say such things out loud! That's just evil enough for Hasbro to do.
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I'm very excited about getting a new, updated Dagobah Luke figure. Finally! I plan to buy at least two; one to pose with Yoda on his back & the other to use for Jedi training. :P
Ghost of Ben figure looks real nice, too, but I'm not at all impressed with R2. Yoda could've been a lot better. All in all, I'm really looking forward to this wave.
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I'm definitely getting 2 Lukes and 2 Yodas (good thing I bought a case :p)
I'm really digging the new Holo Luke even though I thought that it was horrible looking at first, in person it looks a ton better...so this new Spirit Ben will be coming home to Papa
R2...meh, the electronics with sounds might be cool, depending on what they have him say. I'd of liked to have seen them try doing a pincher grabber with door type of thing so he can try and steal Luke's light back from the little Frog
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I can't wait for this one. I just wish they would give us the Yoda's Hut Playset too. It is one of the few Vintage Items I didn't get as a kid.
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Yeah, I'd love the Yoda's Hut playset, but they would have to make it a little bigger and make the inside a little better. All these figures where I'm wanting two (like Luke & Yoda from this wave... Gold Leader, Antilles, Dadonna, etc)... how am I gonna pull that off? I'm having problems just finding one of each figure.
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Check it out
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/otccards.jpg)
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Thanks for posting those Scott. Man, those sure look purdy to me. This is a line I am tempted to buy even the re-releases, just because they look so nice on those cards. With many people finding the Endor Generals now, this wave shouldn't be too far off now. I wish they would have started with the OTC packaging at the beginning of 2004...with the Hoth, Tatooine, Jabba, etc. waves. Granted, many will probably be re-carded, but it would have been nice to start fresh in 2004. Thanks again for the image...nice.
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Every time I see these the more I want to collect them both carded and loose...damn them! I probably won't but they do look super nice
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Exactly the way I've been feeling. I've never done that before, and don't collect carded (save for a few extras here and there)...but this cardback makes it tempting. However, budget and space should keep me in line.......it should anyways :)
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It will be impossible for me NOT to collect them twice. The packaging is top notch and for all those re-packs I'll only have to get one to keep on a card ;). I have been pretty lucky finding all of my stuff on nice cards so I hope it continues. I am assuming the price point on these is the same as of late right?
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Yep, should still be $5
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Oh man, now I want to go back to collecting one carded, one loose.
And that's expensive.
Well, time to start selling bodily fluids. ;)
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Oh my god these look great. I was worried about the clear plastic stand, based on the Han shot from Australia, mucking up the tidiness of the card and background, but that doesn't seem to be a problem.
This packaging style needs to STAY. These are the best ever by a long shot. The E3/PT line should be seperate. When I look at these, I get a rush of nostalgia and my love of collection returns. ;D
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Hi All,
GH.com has pictures up here (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=2794&zoneid=2).
DANG.
The OTC may have recards up the wazoo, but they sure are pretty cards.
Jeff
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I agree Jeff. Those pictures sure are nice. I've really been back and forth on whether or not I want to buy the rehashed figures, but seeing them on cardbacks makes it awfully tempting. I've always been an opener, but part of me wants to buy the recarded figures just to leave them on those purty cards. I really hope that this cardback style continues for awhile, it just looks great. Definitely looking forward to the Dagobah wave itself, and I might just pick up some of those rehashed figures in there as well. Also...the X-Wing Luke rehash didn't look quite as bucktoothed as the POTJ one I have, so that's a good thing.
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Holy crap are those awesome cards
Two things...I'm wondering if Luke will now be a running change one handstand and one standing or will he have the extra arms and head behind the bubble???
And Yoda is way too green, he looks awful. That happened on a few of the Episode II figures too. Its sad that the Vintage Yoda is the best representation of the lil green guy ever
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Hmmm...
It says on the back of Luke's card:
"Use backpacking head and arms and combine with Yoda OTC #02 figure (sold separately) to recreate the Dagobah scenes!"
That leads me to still believe that both heads/arms come with the one figure.
I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do two different packaging variations like they did for the SA Clone though....
Jeff
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The head and arms must be tucked behind the insert card
Although the pic from Lee's showed Luke doing a handstand
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/otccards.jpg)
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Egad!
I guess you have evidence that would seem to confirm that there are currently TWO packaging variants...
Back in February, the big H said in a Q&A that we'd get the heads and arms together, but it doesn't surprise me there are packaging variants.
I think you should go front page with the photo news saying that it seems there are TWO packaging variants of Dagobah Luke: Handstand from Lee's and Backpack from GH.com
Then, we can watch the crazies go crazy over at Scum complaining about variants and Hasbro and such... :)
Jeff
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Done and Done ;)
This then could mean a few things:
A Running Change ala Saga Brown/Blue Han Hoth so that the handstand Luke and Standing Luke will be released in different Waves at different times
Packaging Variation ala the Super Articulated Clone Trooper and the extra arms and head are packaged somewhere that we can't see them right now.
2 different releases at the same time, one a headstand version and one a standing version in the same case.
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I hope that we get the extra head and arms so I don't have to buy two.
If Hasbro does cheap out and release Luke as TWO variants, it'd be just another example of why everyone is so mad at them. They constantly cheap out lately: the plastic, the accessories, the variants.
Here's the original quote from back in February (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.headlines/id.1010/dn/default.cfm):
"Question: What's with Luke and that pose in the Dagobah wave?
Answer: The Luke figure in the Dagobah wave comes with an extra set of arms and head, so he does NOT always have to be posed doing a headstand. Also, the Yoda figure is meant to interact with the Luke figure (similar to the Wampa and Luke Hoth). The backpack fits on Luke and Yoda separates at the waist so that he looks correct when sitting in the backpack. "
EDIT: 'Scum now has pictures up and they are reporting that Backpack Luke comes first, with Handstand Luke in a future assortment. Still no word on if you get both heads/hands with each version... but it's not looking so good.
Dang Hasbro! >:(
Jeff
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/dagobahlukesm.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?/news/images/4-04/dagobahluke.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/dagobahyodasm.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?/news/images/4-04/dagobahyoda.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/dagobahobism.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?/news/images/4-04/dagobahobi.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/dagobahr2sm.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?/news/images/4-04/dagobahr2.jpg)
Better late than never
Oh...and
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/lukecardsm.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-04/lukeotc.jpg)
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Ooooohhh... So they are going with the card variants on Luke, eh? Interesting, and as Jeff already pointed out - probably infuriating to lots of collectors. Since I love the OTC cardbacks myself, I don't mind too much having Luke offered in both different poses. Kinda cool that way from a carded display standpoint. But at the same time, it blows if Hasbro's going to whimp out, and only offer the different limbs (and apparently the backpack too) seperately. Just another example of Hasbro milkin' us like the collecting cows that we are... :-\
Luke also looks like he's 12 years old. But at least the R2 is looking great, all mucked up and muddy-like. I'm definitely digging him...
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Ooooohhh... So they are going with the card variants on Luke, eh? Interesting, and as Jeff already pointed out - probably infuriating to lots of collectors. Since I love the OTC cardbacks myself, I don't mind too much having Luke offered in both different poses. Kinda cool that way from a carded display standpoint. But at the same time, it blows if Hasbro's going to whimp out, and only offer the different limbs (and apparently the backpack too) seperately. Just another example of Hasbro milkin' us like the collecting cows that we are... :-\
Luke also looks like he's 12 years old. But at least the R2 is looking great, all mucked up and muddy-like. I'm definitely digging him...
The standing Luke Dagobah with the hair sculpted down doesn't look a thing like Luke Skywalker though.
Nice figure, but it ain't Luke.
The one with the hair sculpted up with Luke balancing on his hand's is a good likeness though.
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(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2004/OTClukedag1.jpg)
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Separated at birth?
"Backpack" Dagobah Luke:
(http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/2794-luke_yodaD.jpg)
and Mick?
(http://www.tradefederation.net/cldata/User_files/40ab9e1069111b47.jpg)
Same vacant eyes, toussled hair, gap mouth?
He definately doesn't look much like Luke though....
Jeff
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The only thing that sucks about these is that Spirit Obi Wan is one per case and I haven't found a single SW fig packed out that way this year. Sigh. Other than that, they look great.
If Luke doesn't come with both sets of extremities, I'll be very upset, but it sounds to me he does. I like him, even if he looks like Mick Jagger. :)
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My money is on the head/arms being packed behind the OTC insert in the bubble. It looks like they've gone to lengths on all the figures to either outfit the figure with its accessory, or hide it... bases included. Only Chewbacca, who's height extends into the bubble area far behind the OTC logo, seems to show the included black base bit.
Extra arms and a severed head floating in the bubble would look rather creepy, besides.
I still think the ball-socket head thing is a hit-or-miss feature this year. This looks to be one of those cases where it detracts from the figure. I bet the likeness would be helped by not sitting atop a scrawny neck that adds too much emphasis to the jawline on Luke.
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Holy cow that standing Luke is one awful likeness.
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I like the Spirit Obi-Wan. Much better than the previous two attempts.
I like Yoda and R2 as well.
But Luke, needs work. Maybe (hopefully) it will look better when out of package.
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Excellent news everyone!!! Mike over at GH had one of their sponsors open up the Handstand Luke, and guess what?! The other set of arms and the alternate head are indeed included as extra accessories in there!!! He says Luke's only got the straps to his backpack too, and that Yoda's got the actual main portion of it. Good deal. Now everyone should be sufficiently happy with this one... 8)
You can check out Mike's report and pix on this right here (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=2804&zoneid=2).
Phew! ;)
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Excellent!
Good News. Thanks for not cheaping out on this one Hasbro!
Jeff
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Bravo to the guy who suggested Mike ask for the info too :-*
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No doubt, thanks Scott :). This is great news though, glad to see that everything is included with each release (no matter which carded variation you might get). Although the head sculpt might be a little off on the Dagobah Luke, I'm really looking forward to this wave overall. Kind of nice to see Hasbro try something new like this interchangeable arms/head business. As long as it is only used where appropriate, it should work out well.
On a side note, not exactly "Dagobah" wave news...but according to a little report I read over at RS, the repack Throne Room Vader will NOT have a removable helmet this time around. I don't know if this makes a difference to anyone or not (this is one figure I will be skipping, I got it the first time around and am endlessly frustrated with it...getting it to stand, the cape, etc.).
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(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2004/OTClukedagobah2.jpg)
Looks like Luke will be coming as a variant
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Excellent news everyone!!! Mike over at GH had one of their sponsors open up the Handstand Luke, and guess what?! The other set of arms and the alternate head are indeed included as extra accessories in there!!! He says Luke's only got the straps to his backpack too, and that Yoda's got the actual main portion of it. Good deal. Now everyone should be sufficiently happy with this one... 8)
happy? i guess... but i still need to buy 4 of luke. 1 of each carded variation, and i'll need 2 loose ones for display now ::)
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happy? i guess... but i still need to buy 4 of luke. 1 of each carded variation, and i'll need 2 loose ones for display now ::)
Well, yeah. I was mostly directing that comment at the loose collectors, who only wanted to buy one of Dagobah Luke, but still be able to display him in both positions.
Sure, obsessive compulsive freaks like you and I still need to buy at least 4 - one of each pose carded, and at least a couple to display simultaneously in each pose as well. So I knew we were screwed either way D. I was just trying to cheer up some of the other folks... Duh. :P
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My pal here at work got his Dagobah figures in the mail yesterday. He ordered them from one of those high priced shops (over $90 for the 4 figures including shipping). He was kind enough to bring them in so that he could
gloat show them to me.
Anyway, I actually got to hold them and it was great. Luke's head is little strange, but somehow the vacant stare looks alright. Yoda was SUPER-COOL. Obi-Wan and R2 were excellent as well.
The packaging is SOOOOOO sweet. As others have said at various times, when you get that OTC package in your hands, it's a thing of beauty. :)
I can't wait to get these myself...
Jeff
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I saw the R2 in person recently. I am not impressed. Why is Hasbro insistent on putting electronics in an R2-D2 when they don't even have the correct sensor eye lighting up red? It's ridiculous. Hasbro should be using the CommTech R2-D2 mold, and not much else aside from different paint jobs and accessories. This one just looks like the first EPISODE II version that's been dunked in dookie.
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The cards are truly going to be a thing of beauty...its so much more impressive in person and I can't wait to see how they look on the pegs with the rest of the dreck hanging around still (I'm looking at you Michael J Fox Hoth Trooper)
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No doubt. I posted in the vehicles thread how amazing the boxed TIE and Xwing looked sitting on the shelf. They just screamed Star Wars like nothing in the modern era ever has. I'm sure seeing a wall of carded OTC figures will be that feeling by a factor of ten. Can't wait.
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Dig this crazy Mexi-con Exclusive...
Star Wars Encuentros 2004 Exclusive (http://www.starwarsencuentros.com/News220604.htm)
(http://www.starwarsencuentros.com/images/2PackOpenLarge.jpg)
(http://www.starwarsencuentros.com/images/2PackSceneLarge.jpg)
Cool, but not worth $25 in my book...
Jeff
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I've been drooling over that sucker all night long...agreed not worth $25 but it is really nice. Wasn't last year's exclusive available in the US too?
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Hmmm...
Last year's exclusives for this convention were the Han/Chewie 2-pack and Obi-Wan/Vader 2-pks.
(http://www.brianstoys.com/acatalog/POTJ_25th_Chewy-Han_Mexican-EX_2pic.jpg)
They were both re-pack sets as well, but with new convention-exclusive boxes. I am not sure if they weer ever released en masse in the USA. The Silver Boba Fett from that convention was released to the US, because they were sponsored by LFL. The Box Sets though, were sponsored directly by the convention itself and were only offer to the US via eBay or secondary markets.
Jeff
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I guess that's what I was thinking of Silver Fett, forgot about that Han&Chewie Set. I might bite on one of these down the line, Yoda roolz and that set up is all too sweet. Love it, really I do
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Got my first OTC today!
Dagobah wave is super-cool! Just thought I'd post ome quick thoughts...
Luke is great, I love the functionality of the heads and arms!
Spirit Obi-Wan is cool! The pose is strange with the saber in hand, but ehg. Still a different take on the spirit stuff and different than the first two tries at "Spirit" figures.
R2- very grimey, but still cool. The sound is an ok feature, I'd have referred a functional third leg though...
Yoda! Cool little figure! I love him and he'll be my favorite Yoda (until the vintage OTC one get here ;)).
Jeff
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One question for those of you who have Dagobah Luke. Can you pose him like when he's trying to raise the X-Wing from the swamp?
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That pose didn't even occur to me. I gave it a shot and well, you can, sorta. Using the handstand right arm, the regular head, and (this is where the problem is) backback left arm, you can come pretty close to something that would look OK for that scene. Since neither of his arms are at all neutral its hard to pull off. Using both handstand arms doesn't work when lowered to his waist at all.
I'd complain that he should come with neutrally posed arms as well, but that's getting awefully greedy on an already excellent and massively accessorized figure. In fact, since he is a bit preposed, I've ended up with a second opener of both Luke and Yoda, so I can have a Luke w/ Yoda in his backpack version, and seperate Handstand Luke and standing Yoda version.
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Yoda for sure can be done as an X-Wing raising scene figure. Luke I don't think can. The arm doesn't have any articulation in it except at the shoulder
I love these 4 figures more than anything that's come out of Hasbro since Ephant Mon. Wow what amazing work. Too bad this is pretty much all I'll be buying until November >:(
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Quick question....not that it really matters, but is one version of the Dagobah Luke "rarer" than the other? I mean, as far as the standing or handstand versions? I found one this weekend, and it happened to be the handstand version, and I was just curious.
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I think most people are saying the Handstand version is at least right now...I would guess over time it will be about 50/50
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One question for those of you who have Dagobah Luke. Can you pose him like when he's trying to raise the X-Wing from the swamp?
Well, I got my Dagobah Luke and opened him last night. In fact, I've got the figure sitting in front of me right now. I think it's possible to straighten out the handstand hands for the X-Wing lift. I believe it's just a matter of boiling those arms and straightening out the hands to a more neutral position.
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Forgive my ignorance, but I've got a question for you guys...
I've been vocal in my desire to get an Non-Spirit Ben figure, but I may already have one, for it seems that Spirit Ben Kenobi (Dagobah) is... a kitbashed/rehash.
While goofing around with Ben last night, I discovered that the date stamp on his foot reads "2000", and to top it off he has a little tiny hole in his belt just like the PotJ Ben does. After comparing for a bit, I feel I can sefely say that Spirit Ben's legs, lower body, and torso are all identical to the PotJ version!
I think that his head may be recycled from the old Lays Spirit Obi-Wan as well. As near as I can tell, only the arms and cloak are new... but that may be only because we havn't figured out where they came from yet. :(
So, is he kitbashed? Or am I just crazy?
:P
Jeff
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Dig this crazy Mexi-con Exclusive...
(http://www.starwarsencuentros.com/images/2PackOpenLarge.jpg)
Cool, but not worth $25 in my book...
Jeff
Uh, where can I snag one for $25? :)
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That set is/was exclusive to the Official SW Convention of Mexico...
Info on the Two-Pack (http://starwarsencuentros.com/News220604.htm)
The convention starts today I think, and that set will set you back 250 pesos (approx $25 USD), IF you can find someone in Mexico to nab you one... ;)
It is not known if it will be released anywhere else, but there were some rumors that it may end up at StarWarsShop.com in the fall, but this is not confirmed.
Jeff
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That set is/was exclusive to the Official SW Convention of Mexico...
Info on the Two-Pack (http://starwarsencuentros.com/News220604.htm)
The convention starts today I think, and that set will set you back 250 pesos (approx $25 USD), IF you can find someone in Mexico to nab you one... ;)
It is not known if it will be released anywhere else, but there were some rumors that it may end up at StarWarsShop.com in the fall, but this is not confirmed.
Jeff
Thanks. I knew it was a show exclusive, but I thought you had a bead on someone (E-tailer) that could put it in my hands now for $25. ;)
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I've finally had the opportunity (yesterday) to open up the Dagobah wave (except for Luke, haven't opened that one yet), and I really think this wave looks pretty nice overall. Although some might not like it, I think the "spirit" effect of Obi-Wan worked out well, and I really like how this figure looks. The R2 is pretty basic, since there is no third leg, but the deco is nice, and I really dig the sounds as well. Cool toy. I feel that the Yoda is the best we have seen so far. I'm not sure how the VOTC one will be in person (looks pretty good online), but I think they did a pretty nice job on this one as well. I still think some improvement can be made on the facial sculpt of their Yoda figures, but comparing it to the POTF2 versions, it looks pretty good..and the scale of the figure is much better. He's quite wee, as he should be. The display bases with this wave are pretty cool too. Again, the figures aren't necessarily "perfect", but are actually quite good I think. Although I am more excited about the VOTC line in general, the new OTC offerings aren't bad either...and really make you think about whether or not that $10 pricetag is right with the VOTC (although sculpt, articulation is superior on those figures). Anyways, pretty cool wave, just rambling on..... ;)
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For those of you who have picked up the Dagobah Luke, how do you display this figure? Do you have him in his handstand, wearing the backpack w/Yoda, did you buy extras to do both? I have two of this figure, but have left one of them carded, just because he is in the handstand pose and it looks kind of neat on the card. Currently I have Luke holding his backpack (without Yoda though right now), the one I have opened the stand is a bit warped right now, so he doesn't hold the handstand real well (or straight if he does). Anyways, just wondering how some of you have chosen to pose this figure.
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I am one of the dorks who will end up with FOUR Dagobah Lukes:
"BackPack" Luke - loose (displayed with OTC Dagobah R2 and OTC Dagobah Yoda in the pack)
"Handstanding" Luke - loose (will be displayed with Saga X-Wing Dagobah R2 and vOTC Yoda)
"Backpack" Luke - carded MOMC
"Handstanding" Luke - carded MOMC
So, I guess my answer is I bought an extra so I could have him posed BOTH ways.
;)
Jeff
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yeah, you can put me in that club as well... i've got three so far, still trying to find a carded handstand variation. :-\
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This is me:
"BackPack" Luke - loose (displayed with OTC Dagobah R2 and OTC Dagobah Yoda in the pack)
"Handstanding" Luke - loose (will be displayed with Saga X-Wing Dagobah R2 and vOTC Yoda)
Although I might open another OTC R2 Dagobah for the second scene