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Title: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: CHEWIE on January 21, 2006, 10:51 PM
Just out of curiousity, would this be a good idea for Hasbro to try again?  It seemed that in the original SAGA figures, they sold well.  So I'm wondering if it might be a decent idea to try this for the SAGA figures in 2006 around November to put some core characters back on the pegs for the kiddos in time for next Christmas.   

So, here's my idea.  There would be several assortments.  I know most of us want new figures, but there are some new ones mixed in plus it gives newer and younger collectors a chance to get some of the core characters -

Prequel HOF figures Wave One -

TPM Obi Wan Kenobi x 2 (new sculpt)
TPM Darth Maul x 2 (Evolutions sculpt)
AOTC Mace Windu x 2 (new sculpt)
AOTC Arena Padme x 2 (new sculpt)
ROTS Count Dooku x 2 (Evolutions sculpt)
ROTS Clone Trooper x 2 (ROTS #41 w/ 501st paint)

Classic HOF figures Wave Two -

ANH R2D2 x 2 (VOTC sculpt)
ANH Obi Wan Kenobi x 2 (VOTC sculpt w/ articulated knees)
ESB Han Solo x 2 (new Bespin sculpt)
ESB Snowtrooper x 2 (new sculpt)
ROTJ Luke Skywalker x 2 (SAGA Jabba's Palace)
ROTJ Darth Vader x 2 (Evolutions sculpt)

Prequel HOF figures Wave Three -

TPM Battle Droid x 2 (ROTS sculpt)
TPM Qui Gon Jin x2 (new sculpt)
AOTC Jango Fett x 2 (new sculpt)
AOTC Clone Trooper x 2 (Clone Wars sculpt)
ROTS Anakin Skywalker x 2 (Evolutons sculpt)
ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi x 2 (ROTS Pilot)

Classic HOF figures Wave Four -

ANH C3PO x 2 (ROTS sculpt w/ dirty paint app)
ANH Luke Skywalker x 2 (Early bird sculpt w/ new right arm)
ESB Boba Fett x 2 (VOTC sculpt)
ESB Lando Calrissian x 2 (VOTC sculpt)
ROTJ Chewbacca x 2 (VOTC or Early Bird sculpt)
ROTJ Stormtrooper x 2 (VOTC sculpt)

This is just an idea.  Thoughts?

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Diddly on January 21, 2006, 10:58 PM
I would only be interested in them if they were rereleased/repainted Army builders, or HTF figures. Other than that, NO WAY. We're getting enough Vaders, Lukes, Hans, etc. in the main Saga line, why would you want more?
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Scott on January 21, 2006, 11:06 PM
I'm pretty sure Hasbro said that VOTC will never be rereleased again (they told this to Colman at Comic Con)
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: CHEWIE on January 21, 2006, 11:15 PM
Diddly, I didn't say that I want more rehashes of figures.  I am saying that every year, like it or not, there are new collectors entering the hobby.  Many are kids, and their parents are going to jump online to try and backtrack figures for them.  We all know repacks are a thing Hasbro has been doing for years and will continue to do.  So I was suggesting something like this.

As for VOTC figures not being re-released, I remember them saying that.  But haven't we essentially already had a few VOTC figures already re-released?  VOTC R2D2 in the new SAGA line, Chewbacca as an Early Bird figure (with new head) and the Stormtrooper (much of it used for the Evolutions Sandtrooper)?  They even reused the VOTC Boba Fett legs on the SAGA2 Carkook Fett.  Maybe they're not 100% the same, but parts are being reused it seems.  And if we're going to get rehashes of main characters anyway, why not push for the best sculpts?

Just an idea though.  I suspect more of the less diehards would dig the idea more, and many of us that are into this enough to be online chatting about it only want new figures.  But they have to keep some of the main characters in the mix to keep the casual fans interested.

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Clone Hunter on January 22, 2006, 12:15 AM
TPM Battle Droid x 2 (ROTS sculpt) <-- no way, one of the few from your lists I'd buy. That figure is terrible I'd rather have the red striped droid as a Grievous' ship crewman or a POTJ boomer damage. At least you can use the electric effects as Magna droid staff energy.

AOTC Jango Fett x 2 (new sculpt) <-- maybe VOTC Fetts body, but unmaskable?

AOTC Clone Trooper x 2 (Clone Wars sculpt) <-- I assume you mean super poseable? Or how about the Evolutions one? They kick ass!!

ESB Lando Calrissian x 2 (VOTC sculpt) <--- Why? They still clog the TRUs around here. at least 5 at every store.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: CHEWIE on January 22, 2006, 12:32 AM
I like the ROTS Battle Droid actually, I have about 30 of them.  With Real Stands, they are great.  I do agree though that the POTJ one is made much better.  I'd like to see that one used like you suggest, but with a ROTS paint job.

For Jango, I think there are too many changes in the Boba Fett design to use the VOTC sculpt, so I think they'd have to go with an all new sculpt, or use an older Jango body.

For the Clone, I meant this version -

(http://actionfiguresbygofigure.com/media/clonetrooper(clonewars).jpg)

On Lando, I was going for the most recognizable version of him.  I don't see why TRU hasn't clearanced those ones out.

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Darby on January 22, 2006, 01:56 AM
I'm torn on the idea of HOF waves.  Having these figures out there is absolutely critical (and successful, just try finding any main characters at retail right now) but having them available separate from the regular assortments... Hasbro should just be more circumspect when it comes to including them in the line.  TSC really should have started off with something like a HOF wave, featuring the OT main characters that have been AWOL for almost a year, and that kids asked for repeatedly during the ROTS run.

A smarter way to do it would have been something like this:

TSC Wave 1 - ANH
Hammerhead
R5-D4
Hem Dazon
Han Solo (VOTC)
Luke Skywalker (new)
Obi Wan Kenobi (spirit sculpt/non-dead)
Stormtrooper (VOTC)

Wave 2 - ESB
General Veers
AT AT Driver
Major Derlin
Power Droid
Darth Vader (Evo)
R2 (VOTC)
C-3PO (ROTS)

ROTJ
Boussh Leia
Carbonite Han
Bib Fortuna
Skiff Guard Lando (repack)
Jedi Luke (repack)
Boba Fett (VOTC)
Chewie (VOTC)

The PT waves would follow similar patterns.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Diddly on January 22, 2006, 02:08 AM
Diddly, I didn't say that I want more rehashes of figures.  I am saying that every year, like it or not, there are new collectors entering the hobby.  Many are kids, and their parents are going to jump online to try and backtrack figures for them.  We all know repacks are a thing Hasbro has been doing for years and will continue to do.  So I was suggesting something like this.

True, but Hasbro usually repacks the same figures over and over again. Cantina Han is the best example, and there have been several other figures that have had the same sculpts repacked (Mechanic Chewie, Kamino Escape Jango, etc.). Most of these figures are repacked in the basic line already, why redo the Hall of Fame line to put out more of the repacks we're already getting?
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 22, 2006, 03:26 PM
Dear God, no!
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: CHEWIE on January 22, 2006, 04:35 PM
Ok guys, keep dreaming that there will be no repacks this year.   ;)

We've already seen some duds like Barada and Rieken; at least these are some repacks that would appeal to more people.

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Ben on January 22, 2006, 08:21 PM
I'm mostly for something like repacks of some ROTS Collection 2 figures before HOF waves.

Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: CHEWIE on January 22, 2006, 10:47 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more of those ROTS Collection 2 figures repacked either.  Some were just either hard to find, or seemed to sell like crazy.

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 23, 2006, 09:36 AM
I wonder if there's any correlation between the original HOF assortment and what's going on now with the re-packs. Did they do well enough to say that Hasbro could get away with it?
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: CHEWIE on January 23, 2006, 10:51 AM
In my area, the original HOF figures sold really well... so maybe they are banking on that again.  I don't think it's a bad idea, as long as they don't flood the market with them.

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Jesse James on January 25, 2006, 05:10 AM
I'm not sure about everything listed but I'd be for most of it...

The question is, would they?  Evolutions and VOTC figures SHOULD be re-released...  I'm not sure what they told Colman at C3, I can't remember, so Scott may be right however at the same time the VOTC Vader appears to be making an appearance, as does R2-D2, so if either of those is re-used I think there's a chance any other could be...

The irony is, the mold is most of the battle...  Once it's produced, it's a fixed cost that can only diminish over units produced and sold, so it's theoretically in Hasbro's best interests to use these sculpts, and there's no real precedent that says they won't (Obi-Wan Pilot re-issue for instance), yet at the same time there's no precedent showing that they'll use these better overall sculpts/action figures again either.  They're all over the board with this.

It's like the two pilot Jedi re-issued at some point...  On one hand you get SA Obi-Wan Pilot with a cloth cloak (yay), and on the other hand you get the 1st duel Anakin re-issued with a cloth cloak (WTF?), and it makes no sense to me...  Why not re-issue the Evolutions Anakin with a cloth cloak instead?  It'd sit in a fighter, it'd complement the Obi-Wan, and god knows the Evolutions sets were hardly easy to find.

I'd be for VOTC and Evolution reissues...  I don't care that I paid $10 for them initially.  I'd gladly buy more of them for $5 most likely.  I know I won't be buying these older, and/or inferior sculpts of figures though.  I just can't afford it or justify it.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Brian on January 25, 2006, 12:02 PM
I'm totally with the notion of re-releasing the VOTC-styled figures throughout the line.  That includes the VOTC we got in 2004, as well as figures "on the same level" with that type of figure design...the Evolutions, basic figures like ROTS Pilot Obi-Wan, #41 Clonetrooper, etc.  Figures like this, super articulated main characters and army builders, can be sprinkled in throughout the line every year as far as I am concerned.  I know I, like everyone else, would like to see more VOTC Stormtroopers on the pegs...and really Stormtroopers should be available on the pegs each and every year...for kids or collectors.  I was able to get 2 VOTC Stormtroopers the first time, but I'd really like to have a small squad of at least 10 or so.  I look at the armies I have built from the prequel films, and they are so much larger than the ones from the OT movies, which I enjoy more.  I agree with what Jesse said about these figures, the molds are already made, so the largest expense should already be taken care of.  They just as well continue to release them, you know they will sell.

I don't know whether we need to see a seperate "HOF" assortment or not, whatever works best.  I don't mind there being some repacks in each wave, especially if they are of the VOTC/Evo level of figures.  I mean really, every time there is an OT-based wave, you could just as well include a Stormtrooper.  Same with the PT-based waves and clonetroopers.  They always sell, especially when its a quality figure, so just pack some in all the time.  Figures like Pilot Obi, VOTC Han, Evolutions Anakin, VOTC Chewie, and others are pretty much the pinnacle of figures for their particular versions/outfits, so if you're going to repack them, just as well use those sculpts.  Also, I think we've discussed this before, but if they want to, for example, repack a Han...go with something besides the Cantina version.  The upcoming "new head" one doesn't look too bad, and fits with the wave theme, but the VOTC would have probably been a better choice.  Also, if they want a Han with another wave, how about the POTJ Bespin version?  I've always liked that Han, and it hasn't been released for awhile (aside from the DVD pack).  Some collectors might not have, or just buy it to have it on these spiffy cards, and the kids always enjoy Han.  I don't mind repacking quality figures of the main characters and army builders, I do think some characters should always be available...Luke, Han, Vader, Leia, Anakin, Obi-Wan, etc., they just need to put a little more thought/effort into the choices.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Nathan on January 25, 2006, 09:41 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again here:

I think there should be a separate HOF side assortment of core characters available consistently at all times, alongside Saga2, Clone Wars TV series, and whatever else comes up for the "main lines".

I'm thinking a dozen or so key characters such as:
AOTC or ROTS Anakin
AOTC or ROTS Obi-Wan
Qui-Gon
Padme
Han Solo
X-Wing Pilot Luke or Tatooine Luke
White gown ANH Leia
Darth Vader
Chewie
Old Ben
Lando
C-3PO (gold)
R2-D2

Find the best molds of each of these and keep minting them over and over in the HOF2 assortment. This would free up much room in the "main line" instead of rereleasing the same guys on POTJ, Saga, ROTS, Saga2, etc. cards.

And with HOF2 being under a different code than the regular line, it would also mean that these could be reordered separately without having to reorder more Alien Senator Dork pegwarmers at the same time.

And, as Brian mentioned, some like the Stormtrooper and vanilla Clonetrooper, should simply be rereleased in every OT or PT wave.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Brian on January 26, 2006, 12:11 PM
Another for the rumor mill, but Jedi Temple Archives (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/) has a couple of rumors they have heard, including a possible "HOF" wave coming up this year, including the following:

Anakin Skywalker
Chewbacca
ARC 170 Pilot
Commander Bacara
Darth Vader
Destroyer Droid
General Grievous
Mace Windu
Obi-Wan Kenobi
R2-D2
Yoda
SA Clonetrooper

If true, sounds like a prequel "HOF" series.  Some of the figure choices seem a little odd to me, especifically if they are just repacks like the past HOF series have been.  Commander Bacara and Mace Windu in particular weren't all that stellar to begin with, and could probably stand some resculpts eventually.  Plus, we're already getting figures like Anakin, Obi-Wan, Grievous, Vader, Yoda, Clonetrooper, Chewbacca, and R2 in the regular assortments we've seen so far.  Anyways, grain of salt and all that...
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: CHEWIE on January 26, 2006, 12:21 PM
Hmmm... first off, thanks for some rational thought on this guys rather than responses like WHY? that you typically see at a certain other site.

So if they are doing a HOF prequel wave, that could be good, seeing that ROTS was so popular and if they focus on that movie. 

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Brian on January 26, 2006, 12:39 PM
Yeah, I think if they were going to have a "HOF" prequel wave (and if these weren't going to be in the regular assortments) they really need to take the best versions of the characters (same as with an OT-based wave).  For example, maybe something like this:

Anakin Skywalker (ROTS - Evolutions)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS - Basic Pilot)
Emperor Palpatine (ROTS - Evolutions)
Clonetrooper (ROTS - #41 Basic)
Mace Windu (Needs to be included, no figure in particular is great, I suppose ROTS)
General Grievous (ROTS - Deluxe? - I don't have it, but many seem to like it)
Yoda (AOTC Jedi Master or ROTS #3?)
Darth Vader (Evo or 500th would be nice, but not technically "prequel" ROTS is ok I suppose too)
Padme (Needs to be included as well, not sure which would be best.  Maybe AOTC "treadmill" with a non-screaming head.  The "preggers" Padme from the ROTS line isn't bad either.  Possibly a TPM version....we just need more new Padmes)
Battle Droid/Destroyer Droid (Best version of each, good army builders and in all 3 movies)
Count Dooku (ROTS Basic or ROTS Evolutions)
Jango Fett (Although not exactly the same, a repainted VOTC Boba would be nice.  We could use a new SA Jango)

A lot of ways to go with this, and it depends if we're getting the repacks in two places at once (basic line and HOF).  Also, there are other characters that could be considered.  Ones like Chewie, R2, and Threepio are Hall of Fame Original Trilogy figures to me, so I leave them off this list.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: SilverZ on February 7, 2006, 11:15 PM
ROTS Greatest Hits on Saga cards news from EE:

ROTS Greatest Hits at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS87181A)

Quote
Star Wars Greatest Hits Action Figures Wave 1 contains 12 individually packaged action figures from Revenge of the Sith in new 2006-style packaging: 1x Darth Vader, 1x Anakin Skywalker, 1x Yoda, 1x Commander Bacara, 1x Super Articulated Clone Trooper, 1x ARC-170 Clone Pilot, 1x Chewbacca, 1x Obi-Wan Kenobi, 1x General Grievous, 1x Mace Windu, 1x R2-D2, 1x Destroyer Droid. (Subject to change.)

At one per case I'm not all that bothered. I'm actually kind of happy to see a few of those on scene specific cards, especially the standard clone and Bacara. I just hope they don't do anything funny like do a paint variant on the clones in this assortment.

Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Nathan on February 8, 2006, 12:06 AM
(http://images.entertainmentearth.com/%5CAUTOIMAGES%5CHS87181Alg.jpg)

I'll get Bacara and the Droideka because I never got them the first time around.

I don't have a Grievous, but I'm undecided whether to get this one or the Sneak Preview one being rereleased in the Coruscant wave.

Undecided on Mace and the clones.

The others I either already have or don't need.

Overall I don't mind this rerelease, but Bacara seems like a really odd choice.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: SilverZ on February 8, 2006, 12:31 AM
Actually, now looking at the picture, and thinking about the equivelent figures that will be available in the standard TSC section of the line, there are some really odd choices in there.

I think Bacara is worthy enough of a rerelease and SA clones are always welcome. Chewbacca's not the ideal sculpt but should look good on a Kashyyyk background.  The Clone Pilot, Mace, and Droideka aren't in the TSC line yet, so, eh, ok. They'll pegwarm though. These ones make the most sense to me from an actual release perspective.

But Vader, Anakin, Obi, Yoda, and Grievous are all going to be (or actually will already be) in the normal assortments by the time these hit. They're really pointless duplicates of characters that aren't really needed on the shelves. And the Sneak Grievous repaint would be my choice over the exploding version here if I were to pick one.

Since I've come in a bit late to the HOF discussion, my ideals would be:

Padme Amidala
Mustafar Anakin
Tactical Ops Trooper
Royal Guard (red)
Count Dooku
Electronic R2-D2
C-3PO
Tarkin...

and I'll concede that there needs to be an Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Grievous.

Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Darby on February 8, 2006, 12:35 AM
On TSC cards, these will evaporate.   ROTS is still so hot I can see why they're doing it.  Doing Anakin and Obi and Grievous here doesn't make a whole lot of sense with the Coruscant wave, but then what do I know.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 8, 2006, 02:11 AM
Why would they use that exploding Grievous?  What a terrible figure.  Since the sneak preview one is already appearing in the TSC packaging, the deluxe one (without the goofy firing weapon) would have been great.


Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: SilverZ on February 8, 2006, 02:15 AM
Yeah, that Grievous is bad. But Mace is worse. That figure should be banished to the gimp trunk with his brethren Purchase of the Droids Owen Lars and R5-D4.

These all seem to be Collection 1 figures. I wonder if a Wave 2 will be Collection 2 repacks.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 8, 2006, 02:17 AM
Actually, that Obi-Wan may have to join them.  Isn't that the super-kick one?  What a POS.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Ben on February 8, 2006, 03:25 AM
Damn, and here I was hoping for another shot at the later Collection 2 figures.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Darth Delicious on February 8, 2006, 03:48 AM
I like that Hasbro is releasing the Yoda in the HOF line when they've already packed that piece of crap in the Geonosis wave. Yeah, that's MUCH better than a Bly or a corrected Gree. And how many times do we need that awful Anakin? He's already in the Coruscant wave. At least put the Evo Anakin on a card and give us a decent one. Don't even get me started on "Jedi Kick" Obi-Wan. And the clone...they should have released the shocktrooper again.

I can't wait to hammer them at Comic-Con about this.

On the bright side, it will be nice to see these figures on Saga packaging, instead of the ugly ROTS design.

-DD
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Jesse James on February 8, 2006, 04:25 AM
Hmmm, I'm not wild about the choices for re-release personally...  Some are ok, others though, meh...

-Vader...  Seems overkill to me and he was one of the only figures easy to find down till Christmas.  Is he really needed again when other versions of him ship in other waves?  Wasted slot in the case for doubling up on an army builder IMO.

-Clone...  I don't mind the SA sculpt being re-issued, I think it actually probably outsold the #6 sculpt.  I'd want the Shocktrooper re-issued too but at 1-per case that's not getting many more out there.  A good white SA Clone should be on the pegs routinely I guess...  Then again so should a Stormtrooper, an AOTC Clone, etc...  Instead we get none of those or an inferior sculpt like the CT figure.

-Clone Pilot...  Don't mind this either, I'm ok with it since while it wasn't a huge seller, I know I'd like more and it still did sell by simply being an army builder.  This may afford me the chance to nab a couple more for a nice round total.

-Mace Windu...  Short of getting a new figure this is as good as one could hope for.  Funny how his photo there looks almost like a new figure because it looks noticeably better than the ROTS figure we got.  :)  I know it won't be better, but somehow that photo spiffed him up.  He sold though, kids want him, so that's good I guess...

-Bacara...  Why not release Bly with the correct paint like DD says?  I wouldn't expect the Gree since, to correct him really, you need a lot more than a good coat of paint...  But Bly just needs put out there with the RIGHT paintjob.  Or for that matter why not put out the #33 red or green Commander?  Neither one sat in my area as much as the Bacara figure did...  Believe it or not, it does seem that inferior figures for poseability DO sit compared to their better counterparts.  The Bacara/#33 Commander debate proved that point to me...  POseable, even if it's not in the movie, won out in sales last year it seemed.

-Destroyer Droid...  Again, did this really go over well last year?  Hell, put the battledroid (even though I hate it) in its place, that was a lot harder to find than the Destroyer and inevitably cost less to make.  WTF is up with these decisions though?  Destroyers sat till Christmas and beyond some places.

-Grievous...  Exploding Grievous?  WTF?  Again, why not release a better sculpt?  The Preview figure, the Deluxe (is it really a $10 figure afterall?), or the 4-armed basic figure...  But the exploding one sat last year beyond any of the others, so why re-release that one?  Weird choice.

-R2-D2...  Wasn't terribly hard to find as I recall, and other R2's are coming in other waves...  Is this necessary?  How about sneaking R4-P17 in since he WAS hard to find, or how about the Wookiee Heavy Gunner who was nye on impossible to find?  Yeah they're not the "main" character everyone maybe wants but R2's gonna get other releases in other waves so htis seems wasteful to me.

-Obi-Wan Kenobi...  One of the easiest Col. 1 figures to find last year and they're re-releasing it?  How...  stupid.  Why not release the pilot version at least?  It's simply better overall.

-Anakin...  It's silly to even ask for it at this point but it would've been cool had they decided to actually put a GOOD sculpt of Anakin out instead of this.  Had they opted to actually sneak the Evolutions Anakin in there, that would have been great...  Too much to hope for from the company, especially given what they are deciding to re-release, but it would have been a fantastic choice.

-Yoda...  OK I guess.  Better than the spinning one which, at this point, I'm surprised wasn't the one they decided to put in the case.  This Yoda wasn't too hard to find either but at least it's a better figure generally.

-Chewbacca...  Makes sense mostly.  It was a main figure that turned out to be hard to find for a lot of folks...  The rest of that case is a whole lot of head scratchers for sure though, with a couple ok choices. 
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Darby on February 8, 2006, 04:52 AM
I totally agree the choices on these are curious.  The Grievous really should be the 4 arm version (deluxe or basic), Bacarra should be the Clone Commander or Bly, Anakin should be the KFC version, Obi Wan should be the pilot version (or since he's in the Coruscant wave, why not a Mustafar paint variation on him?) and so on.

The clone should probably be the Tac Ops trooper, and really, this should be an opportunity to get the figs that most of us missed (Holo Plo Koon, etc.).
Title: ROTS Greatest Hits Wave on SAGA cards
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 8, 2006, 06:37 AM
(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/HS87181Alg.jpg)

Also dubbed the "Battle of The Pegwarmers" Wave, this fine collection of 12 figures were recovered from Walmarts and KMarts aisle floors, return shopping carts, garbage cans and dumpsters in an attempt to cram yet another wave of figures into the first 5 months of 2006.

It sucks to be a carded collector!

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS Greatest Hits Wave on SAGA cards
Post by: Vator on February 8, 2006, 06:41 AM
Brilliant, considering that many people were unable to find the final 12 while these were to be found in abundance. Although I can understand Hasbro's reasoning in releasing these kid friendly figures, I cannot help but be miffed that they've shafted us again.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Jesse James on February 8, 2006, 06:43 AM
Ithorian, I merged yours with the one we were already fuming in over some of those choices...

Still, I dig the Clones, I'll likely buy more of both if these are abundant, but I'm a sucker for Clones, what can I say.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Darth Broem on February 8, 2006, 08:56 AM
I really don't understand why they won't repack the Red Shocktrooper and Blue Tactical Ops Trooper?  Unless they are going to repaint the SA troopers instead.  As long as they are doing this HOF series I would have thought those 2 would be prime choices. 
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Clone On Fire on February 8, 2006, 09:14 AM
What a retarded thing this is.  I think we can all agree that these 12 figures were available in much greater quantities on the pegs than some others.  Mace Windu is one of the ROTS "Greatest figures"?  LOL.  Sure thing Hasbro.  Greatest peg warmer maybe.  Or greatest piece of crap.

Here's the 12 I'd like to see repacked:

501st clone
Red shock clone
Clone 41
Battle Droid
Preview Wookiee Warrior
AT-TE tank gunner
Red Royal Guard
Blue Senate Guard
Some brand of Anakin
Some brand of Obi Wan
Some brand of Grievous
Some brand of Vader

Luckily this is coming out at the end of the SAGA waves and I won't have any money left if all goes well anyhow  :D
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 8, 2006, 09:40 AM
 ???

I don't know what else to say. I could care less since I already have them, but, it does seem some better figures could have been chosen.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2006, 10:58 AM
Weird... there are some decent selections in here but for the most part I think this is a bad decision, but that's based on the figures they selected.  Nothing wrong with it if the repacks made better sense. 

Vader - don't agree with it, but Vader sells
Anakin - dumb... isn't that one coming out already again with a cloak?
Yoda - dumb
Bacara - no problem here
SA Clone - good choice
Clone pilot - no problem here
Chewbacca - don't agree with it, but I think it will sell ok
Obi Wan - why this sculpt?  why not the pilot version?
Greivous - bad choice I think, but Grievous sells ok
Windu - ha ha... dumb
R2D2 - dumb
Destroyer - why not a regular Battle Droid instead?

I think that they could do good with this idea, and I remember some people saying they won't do any sort of HOF assortment.  Wrong!  But it could have been good, unfortunately they missed the boat.

Aren't these all Collection One figures too?

 :P
Title: Greatest Hits
Post by: P-Siddy on February 8, 2006, 11:04 AM
Hasbro's relasing some of the RotS figs as "Greatest Hits", among them, peg warmer Clone Pilot, Anakin #2, Vader (don't we Vader in TSC already??), Destroyer Droid, Yoda, and others. At least they have the #41 for all you customizers. But there are other figs that I think would be better for their "Greatest Hits."

I guess I have to thank hasbro for re-releasing these 10 or 12 figures. That saves me quite a bit of dough.

See front page for me details.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Morgbug on February 8, 2006, 11:12 AM
It's all crap and as a loose collector I'd ignore it all if I could, but it will block up the pegs.  I hope it will come in only as much as the previous HOF stuff did, one case per store. 

If they had to release HOF stuff, here's what they should have done:

1. 1-4 - General Grevious
2. III-06 Clone Trooper red shock variant
3. III-03 Yoda
4. III-05 Chewbacca
5. III-11 Darth Vader
6.  III-23 Royal Guard
7.  III-48 R2-D2 (Electronic)
8.  III-50 Anakin Skywalker on Mustafar
9.  III-57 Commander Bly
10. III-55 Obi-Wan Kenobi (Red Leader Pilot)
11. III-59 Commander Gree
12. III-65 Tactical Ops Trooper

Yeah, it's laden with army builders, but it has those kiddie favorite basics too - Vader, Yoda, Chewie, R2, Anakin and Obi.  You could have dropped in 3PO instead of one of the clones too, as a basic figure. 

Whatever. ::)

Just to add by edit, using Brian's comment below, an evolutions Anakin would have been super.  But really, look at the figures they selected - cheap, cheap and cheap versions
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2006, 11:41 AM
I like your lineup better too Brent.  Since I'm not a carded collector, I'll likely skip most or all of these, so it doesn't bother me too much.  Clones are always welcome, and I'm sure several others from this wave will look pretty spiffy on the TSC cardbacks.  I might pick up a Chewie to leave carded just for that reason.  Otherwise though, the choices do seem a little bit odd.  If these figures are going to really be labeled "Hall of Fame" or something like that, they could use more "HOF" worthy sculpts.  Even though we've seen plenty of him for the most part now, the Obi-Wan Pilot is the standard for ROTS Obi at this point, and the same can be said for the Evolutions Anakin.  The SA clone is welcome, in various paint schemes, and they just as well include other clones as well (Bly, Gree, etc.).  Lots of these seem like strange choices though, hopefully they'll ship lightly so they're not clogging up the pegs and holding back the regular TSC waves.  Please don't let these hit at the same time as the Tatooine/Mos Eisley figures.  That's a wave I'm really looking forward to, and probably getting most/all of that wave, and I'd hate to see pegs full of these chuckers instead ;).
Title: Re: Greatest Hits
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2006, 12:11 PM
Yeah, it seems like a weird selection.  We already were discussing this in another thread (dubbed HOF) so I should probably change the title of that thread to avoid confusion.

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2006, 12:15 PM
It's weird though, I'm sure kids will love this wave and it's good to have some core characters available... but who knows.  And of course there are the carded completists...

(http://www.geocities.com/clefairymon/suckers.jpg)   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: Greatest Hits
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 8, 2006, 12:44 PM
I noticed the case is Wave 1; makes me wonder if these #'s fall in line with the TSC or will they have their own numbers. I hope they have their own numbers because I don't want to buy Hasbro's pegwarmers from last year again >:(.

If they have their own numbers I'm passing- Looked at wave 1 case ass. and 9 of the 12 pegwarmed here, especially after the final 12 kicked off. 
Title: Re: Greatest Hits
Post by: P-Siddy on February 8, 2006, 01:32 PM
Yeah, it seems like a weird selection.  We already were discussing this in another thread (dubbed HOF) so I should probably change the title of that thread to avoid confusion.

 :P

I thought of that too, Chewie, after putting this up. Sorry 'bout that...
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Jayson on February 8, 2006, 02:10 PM
this wave should be called "greatest *****"...

Hasbro... why not give us "the shocker", throw a few Neimoidian Warriors in there and slap our grandmas

This wave sucks.
Title: Re: Greatest Hits
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2006, 02:37 PM
No reason in the world to apologize!   8)

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: ruiner on February 8, 2006, 05:31 PM
It's all crap and as a loose collector I'd ignore it all if I could, but it will block up the pegs.  I hope it will come in only as much as the previous HOF stuff did, one case per store. 

If they had to release HOF stuff, here's what they should have done:

1. 1-4 - General Grevious
2. III-06 Clone Trooper red shock variant
3. III-03 Yoda
4. III-05 Chewbacca
5. III-11 Darth Vader
6.  III-23 Royal Guard
7.  III-48 R2-D2 (Electronic)
8.  III-50 Anakin Skywalker on Mustafar
9.  III-57 Commander Bly
10. III-55 Obi-Wan Kenobi (Red Leader Pilot)
11. III-59 Commander Gree
12. III-65 Tactical Ops Trooper

Yeah, it's laden with army builders, but it has those kiddie favorite basics too - Vader, Yoda, Chewie, R2, Anakin and Obi.  You could have dropped in 3PO instead of one of the clones too, as a basic figure. 

Whatever. ::)

Just to add by edit, using Brian's comment below, an evolutions Anakin would have been super. But really, look at the figures they selected - cheap, cheap and cheap versions

This list is about as good as you can get.

I might substitute the regular white #41 clone for Gree. 

Hasbro is adding even more fuel to the fire by re-releasing these on TSC cards...ohh, how I love the new TSC cards...

But I really don't understand this assortment/sku - a lot of these figures will be available in the standard TSC line (Yoda, clones, Obi-Wan, R2, etc.).

Is this a placeholder sku?

Will these be part of the numbered series of TSC figures?

Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Diddly on February 8, 2006, 05:33 PM
This wave is lame, but I'll be getting some more Droidekas, Clone Pilots, and SA Clones.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves?
Post by: P-Siddy on February 8, 2006, 06:53 PM

Weird... there are some decent selections in here but for the most part I think this is a bad decision, but that's based on the figures they selected.  Nothing wrong with it if the repacks made better sense. 

...

I think that they could do good with this idea, and I remember some people saying they won't do any sort of HOF assortment.  Wrong!  But it could have been good, unfortunately they missed the boat.

Aren't these all Collection One figures too?

 :P


I agree with your sentiments, Chewie, and with everone else's. This wave is the "jump the shark" wave of the year. They're re-releasing figures we all could buy last year without much of a probably, and most of the choices of their so-called "Greatest Hits" were peg-warmers. I wonder where Hasbro thinks that these were the greatest of the RotS wave. There were tons a lot better than these. The only ones I can think of that fit with the theme is Vader and the SA clone.

I believe that the #2 Anakin is going to be the Cantina Han of the prequels and may even surpass Mr. Solo's record!! How many reincarnations has it been now for Ani?? At least four within a year?? *shakes head in disappointment* I guess I will be saving some money when this wave hits.

Perhaps this wave should be call Greatest Misses instead. ::)
Title: Re: Greatest Hits
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 8, 2006, 07:47 PM
A greatest hits line seems like a good idea, and then they unveil the poor choices for it.  It should be a line focused on figures that were short-packed or army builders.
Title: Re: Greatest Hits
Post by: MetalJedi on February 8, 2006, 07:50 PM
Maybe they'll be smart with this (if they continue past wave 1) with a rerelease of the final 12.
Title: Re: Greatest Hits
Post by: speedermike on February 8, 2006, 07:58 PM
Lat year's peg warmers? I don't remember seeing any (maybe the clone pilot) warm pegs.  This is a great assortmeny for kids and new collectors.
Title: Re: Greatest Hits
Post by: Jediknight760071 on February 8, 2006, 08:23 PM
These are all the pegwarmers from LA County, minus the Nemoidian Guard.

Can't wait. ::) Greatest Hits my ass. >:(
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Morgbug on February 8, 2006, 10:17 PM
Quote
I might substitute the regular white #41 clone for Gree. 

I had it in there initially as well, but took it out to fit in the royal guard I think, or maybe one of the "kid desired" figures.  It certainly could be there and would sell well and could be subbed in for any of the listed clones.  I just recalled that lots of people had trouble with Bly/Gree/Shock/Tac Ops troopers moreso than the #41. 

Honestly I'm not at all sure why they don't make a case of the following:

III-06 Clone Trooper shock x1
III-23 Royal Guard red x1
III-23 Royal Guard blue x1
III-33 Clone Commander red x1
III-33 Clone Commander green x1
III-34 Clone Pilot white x1
III-34 Clone Pilot black x1
III-38 AT-TE Gunner x1
III-41 Clone Trooper x1
III-57 Commander Bly x1
III-59 Commander Gree x1
III-65 Tactical Ops Trooper x1

Where's the difficulty in seeing this as a viable assortment?  An all ROTS army builder assortment.  The clone pilots would be the dogs of it, but they'd still sell eventually.  Or how about this to eliminate any peg warming ('cept maybe the guards but even those will go fast):

III-06 Clone Trooper shock x2
III-23 Royal Guard red x1
III-23 Royal Guard blue x1
III-34 Clone Pilot black x1
III-41 Clone Trooper x1
III-57 Commander Bly x2
III-59 Commander Gree x2
III-65 Tactical Ops Trooper x2

How does anyone lose on this? 

Retailers won't buy it?  bull****.  Kids won't like it?  bull****.  Collectors won't like it?  bull****. 

Put 'em out on TSC cards and people will genuinely go ape****.  Kids would finally have access to the damn figures. Collectors would get awesome cardbacks for the most popular figures.  Army builders would get re-releases of figures they want to build armies with at a decent price ( and you know Hasbro and the retailers are loving the slightly higher pricepoint). 

Release your new clones in the new assortments.  Keep 'em coming.  Sub in the Utapau, Cody and Fire clones later on for the Royal Guards and pilots.  Watch what happens with this case, you've got reps in the field.  Figure out what figures are dogging it down the road and then throw in newer clones that you released in limited fashion in newer waves.  Let them be hot for a while, then cool the market. 

Is it really that hard to figure out?


Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Ben on February 8, 2006, 10:53 PM
I think Hasbro isn't going to issue many Clones this year, mostly because they want to keep the interest at a fever pitch until the TV series starts. Why else would Scorch and the Utapau Clone be at 1x per case in the cases most likely to reach retail?

Again, this is just my opinion, but I think that's why a case full of proven winners like Morgbug posted above isn't in every store nationwide.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2006, 02:23 AM
I was just thinking...

This case, if it ships in quantity at all which I wager it does, should act as a pretty good gauge of how dead or alive the current "interest" outside hardcore collectors is for the Star Wars brand... 

If these pegwarm, I think it's a safe bet that Hasbro should really start rethinking about how many people they actually "hooked" into this line.  If they move ok though maybe there's still enough young blood in it carrying over from '05 or some such.  Hard to say but this'll be interesting to watch I think.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: roguestormtrooper on February 9, 2006, 03:44 AM
Why is Hasbro even bothering with this?  I know,  I know it's for the almighty dollar. ::)

I would agree with it,  like everyone else,   if they would replace the lame re packaged figures with the harder to find figures and army builders.  How about the Utapau Shadow Trooper?
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Brian on February 9, 2006, 10:33 AM
Quote
Honestly I'm not at all sure why they don't make a case of the following:

III-06 Clone Trooper shock x1
III-23 Royal Guard red x1
III-23 Royal Guard blue x1
III-33 Clone Commander red x1
III-33 Clone Commander green x1
III-34 Clone Pilot white x1
III-34 Clone Pilot black x1
III-38 AT-TE Gunner x1
III-41 Clone Trooper x1
III-57 Commander Bly x1
III-59 Commander Gree x1
III-65 Tactical Ops Trooper x1

Where's the difficulty in seeing this as a viable assortment?  An all ROTS army builder assortment.  The clone pilots would be the dogs of it, but they'd still sell eventually.  Or how about this to eliminate any peg warming ('cept maybe the guards but even those will go fast):

III-06 Clone Trooper shock x2
III-23 Royal Guard red x1
III-23 Royal Guard blue x1
III-34 Clone Pilot black x1
III-41 Clone Trooper x1
III-57 Commander Bly x2
III-59 Commander Gree x2
III-65 Tactical Ops Trooper x2

How does anyone lose on this?

Retailers won't buy it?  bull****.  Kids won't like it?  bull****.  Collectors won't like it?  bull****.

Put 'em out on TSC cards and people will genuinely go ape****.  Kids would finally have access to the damn figures. Collectors would get awesome cardbacks for the most popular figures.  Army builders would get re-releases of figures they want to build armies with at a decent price ( and you know Hasbro and the retailers are loving the slightly higher pricepoint).

Great post Brent.  I never understand why we haven't seen anything like this either, it seems to make so much sense for everyone involved.  Hasbro and retailers will make money, it will sell.  Kids can get a hold of "cool" characters, collectors can pick them up on the spiffy TSC cardbacks or to army build, and nothing will likely pegwarm from an assortment like this.  I don't understand why they won't do something like this.  Same could be said for OT-based assortments.  Create a SA Snowtrooper, and release the VOTC Stormie, a SA Snowtrooper, the upcoming VTSC Scout, and maybe others like the Saga TIE Pilot, Evolutions Sandtrooper, etc.   You could create a whole assortment for OT army builders as well, which I'd like to see.  Of course, a lot of them (Snowtroopers, any Rebel troopers) probably need new, SA sculpts before they could/should do something like this, but it would be nice to see.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: SpudTrooper on February 9, 2006, 09:59 PM
This HAS to be a Joke from Hasbro rite?  :'(
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: foolintherain76 on February 11, 2006, 01:26 PM
I'm guessing there will only be 1 wave of these (aka 12 figures) just like the HOF wave from Saga.  Its probably just to get rid of figures they produced in excess.  They won't be numbered, but I guess I'll get them because they will probably look good on the packaging and I try to get one of every figure (not all variations, but if they are numbered or considered a special type of wave, I get them b/c I'm obssessive compulsive).  Anyway, I think we can rest assured that they will not be followed by another wave of HOF
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Reid on February 11, 2006, 01:52 PM
The ROTS Greatest Hits Wave, the way it should have been:

01. Blue Imperial Guard (With the Red Variant)
02. Governer Tarkin
03. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Red Leader Pilot)
04. Tactical Ops (501st) Trooper
05. Four-Arm Grievous
06. Clone Trooper (Articulated)
07. Holo Plo Koon
08. Commander Bly
09. Wookie Heavy Gunner
10. R4-P17
11. Chewbacca
12. Anakin Skywalker (On Mustafar)

Title: Re: ROTS Greatest Hits Wave on SAGA cards
Post by: Jeff on February 11, 2006, 09:27 PM
(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/HS87181Alg.jpg)

Wow... so they are really re-releasing these on Saga Cards?   ???

Huh.  Don't get me wrong, I'll probably buy them since I like carded figures (or rather my OCD likes them), but I don't think we really needed to see a couple of them again...

- Yoda? Isn't he already in the Senate Pod Battle Pack and Geonosis wave?  ???
- Explodo-Grievous?  Isn't the Target version and the Coruscant wave version enough?  ???
- #2 Anakin?  Isn't the Coruscant wave version w/Cloak enough?   ???
- Vader?  The Hoth wave Vader is being shipped in the Hoth, Geo, Coruscant, AND the Tatooine wave, and now a Vader in this wave too?  ???

The Clones are cool to re-release (everyone loves army builders) and Mace and Chewie are probably OK too since they are good sellers, but dang I am sick of Vader/Yoda/Anakin/Obi-Wan/Grievous.

Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 12, 2006, 12:55 AM
They dropped the ball on this HOF wave.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: CHEWIE on February 12, 2006, 01:06 AM
I see some potential pegwarmers here... but  I guess in a way it could be ok with just one figure per case.  Still some absolutely pointless repacks here.

 :P
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2006, 08:41 AM
But any clone packed at 1 per case is a problem. Most stores will only get a few cases of this wave in (if my carkoon and hoth experiences hold true). That means you better be there when the box is broken open, or someone (like me) will have left with the grunts.
Title: Re: SAGA2 HOF waves? (GREATEST HITS WAVE)
Post by: Jeff on March 13, 2006, 02:24 PM
Looking pretty cool so far...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/greathits41f.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/greathits41b.jpg)
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Mikey D on March 13, 2006, 02:30 PM
I hope that's a prototype and they actually paint the calfs, shins and hands grey to match the picture instead of just the shoulder pads.  Looks like some sort of special backpack there too.  They should include that also. 

Not expecting it, but it would be nice.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Brian on March 13, 2006, 02:47 PM
Thanks for the pics Jeff.  Now seeing that carded clone, these might not be so bad.  Still some odd choices overall, but I suppose they are trying (maybe a little late) to feed the appetite people had for ROTS figures around Christmas of last year.  I'm not going to get them all, but I hope to pick up a Chewie to leave carded and maybe a couple others, we'll see.  Still, better choices could have been used I think.  Those cardbacks just make any figure look a little spiffier I think, even though I'm not a carded collector, its tempting to get a few to keep anyways.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: CHEWIE on March 13, 2006, 03:44 PM
I have to admit that's some killer packaging.  Wow, almost would we tempted to not open it.  Almost.

 :P

Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: ruiner on March 13, 2006, 03:45 PM
I'm such a sucker for this packaging...it's like printing money for Hasbro - I've already pre-ordered a case from NewForce....



Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Nathan on March 13, 2006, 04:14 PM
I hope that's a prototype and they actually paint the calfs, shins and hands grey to match the picture instead of just the shoulder pads.

Actually, I don't think the shoulders are painted--it's just the translucent tray covering it. If you look closely at his right shoulder (to the viewer's left), the gray overlaps onto his arm plate a little, matching to the edge of the tray. And on his left shoulder (our right) the tray doesn't cover his entire shoulder pad and neither does the gray.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: CHEWIE on March 13, 2006, 04:16 PM
Nothing looks painted to me, it looks like the exact same #41 Clone from the ROTS line.  Ok by me though.

 :P
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Jeff on March 13, 2006, 04:20 PM
Yeah, I think it is just a re-pack of the #41 Clone.  Has all the same "damage/scrape" marks on him.

One other thing I noted, I'm glad to see that the #36 Greivous (from the EE pictures) appears to have been replaced by the 4-Saber Greivous (on the cardback).  Much better choice I think since this will be out at the same time as the Target ExpodoGreivous.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Mikey D on March 13, 2006, 04:32 PM
Must be going color blind...

Will pass on these then.  I already have all the SA white clones I want.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Jayson on March 13, 2006, 05:25 PM
It's nice that this wave/collection is numbered separately (1-12) from the standard basic line (001-???)
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: CHEWIE on March 13, 2006, 05:55 PM
Good like Jeff pointed out on the Grievous.  Bad on the Obi Wan, Yoda, Windu and Anakin.

 :P
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 14, 2006, 05:23 PM
DUMB!

 It is that they're numbered separately  so now it's like a non-buy for me. ::)
A Pass just like the last time they had Greatest Hits collection ::).

what a waste.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 14, 2006, 06:14 PM
I've already preordered a case of these from NewForce because I wanted the Vader.  I gotta say though, these figures look damn good on the new cards - it's weakening my resolve to not collect 3 3/4" figures anymore...
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Dan on March 14, 2006, 06:31 PM
I hear that Jesse-

I went in to 2006 having had just about enough of 3 and 3/4 for a while. The first wave solidified that position. But AT-At drivers, General Veers, cool clones, and great packaging have me on the fence. For me the deal breaker is going to be price and availability. Keep them around $6.00 and generally available, and I will probably go back and even get the Carkoon goons to have a full set like the 2004 OTC.

That # 41 clone looks a darn purdy on this new card- and I already have all the loose ones I need...

(that sound you now hear is me on the slippery slope to carded collecting again)

AAAAAAAAG!
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Jeff on March 15, 2006, 12:35 AM
Hmmm... more carded pics (from EE). 

- Black Clone Pilot is shown, which is different from that Clone Cardback we saw.
- Greivous is back to #36 Explodo-Greivous according to the pic.  ::)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/greatesthitswave.jpg)
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Ben on March 15, 2006, 01:11 AM
Kudos to Hasbro on the black Clone Pilot, not so much for Explodo-Grievous.

Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Chris on March 15, 2006, 02:11 AM
I can't believe they are repacking all of these, though it just reconfirms my decision to buy only what I like now. I refuse to support this repackaging. Frankly, I find it disgusting. I'm not paying for new cardboard. Period. ::)
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: SilverZ on March 15, 2006, 03:40 AM
That's some damn sexy cardboard, though.  ;) I want Vader, Bacara, and the Clone Grunt.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darby on March 15, 2006, 04:29 AM
The Black clone pilot is a nice gesture, but it's the only one.  So many possibilities...
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Gatillo on March 15, 2006, 09:11 AM
Finally I may get a black pilot.  I never saw one at retail.  I'll probably pick up some clones b/c I am weak but most of the other crap in this wave makes no sense. 

Based on sales a greatest hits wave in my opinion should include hot items, not the peg warming crap.

Ironically the Bacarra looks good in that card and since that figure was meant to be in a card it is not all bad.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 15, 2006, 09:28 AM
I hope that's a prototype and they actually paint the calfs, shins and hands grey to match the picture instead of just the shoulder pads.

Actually, I don't think the shoulders are painted--it's just the translucent tray covering it. If you look closely at his right shoulder (to the viewer's left), the gray overlaps onto his arm plate a little, matching to the edge of the tray. And on his left shoulder (our right) the tray doesn't cover his entire shoulder pad and neither does the gray.

I thought the shoulder pads were painted too. I was starting to panic.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Dan on March 15, 2006, 10:01 AM
I'll be looking for a pilot, grunt, bacara, and maybe a destroyer droid.   8) That is some great cardboard...  ;D
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: ruiner on March 15, 2006, 10:33 AM
Again, this assortment looks great carded - much better than their first ROTS releases.   While I'm not happy with their choice of figure (minus the black pilot and clone trooper) the packaging is superb and may be strong enough to convince me to buy them all.

Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: CHEWIE on March 15, 2006, 11:14 AM
Count me in for another Black Pilot, Clone or two, and maybe another Bacara for a custom.

 :P
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Morgbug on March 15, 2006, 04:07 PM
Pass.  You carded sheep are welcome to all you like :-*

I've more than enough black clone pilots around here.  I couldn't find more than a dozen or so locally though, they weren't quite as plentiful as the shock troopers were :P
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Jeff on March 15, 2006, 04:13 PM
Pass.  You carded sheep are welcome to all you like :-*

Thanks!   ;)

The 2006 look has really grown on me (curvy bubble and all) so I have no problem grabbing these.  I pre-ordered my case from New Force ($72 plus shipping).  The 1x each per case is a perfect assortment for me because I just need a carded set since I've already got openers of all 12 of the figures.

Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Greg on March 15, 2006, 04:23 PM
I'll probably get some of those Clone Troopers, Destroyer Droids, and a Clone Pilot.  Oh, and a Darth Vader too. (Mine fell off my shelf and broke.  :( )
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 15, 2006, 09:27 PM
Pass.  You carded sheep are welcome to all you like :-*


Baaaa.

I need to order a case from Newfrorce.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Morgbug on March 15, 2006, 10:59 PM
I tell ya, space limitations that made me shift from carded to loose was the best thing that ever happened.  I completely understand why you guys would want these, the cards are great and the bubbles are a nice improvement.  But I don't need them ;D
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: iFett on March 15, 2006, 11:18 PM
I tell ya, space limitations that made me shift from carded to loose was the best thing that ever happened.  I completely understand why you guys would want these, the cards are great and the bubbles are a nice improvement.  But I don't need them ;D

I don't need them either, but the OCD in me will make it so.  I hope I see the light eventually to switch from carded to loose.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 16, 2006, 10:52 PM
I tell ya, space limitations that made me shift from carded to loose was the best thing that ever happened.  I completely understand why you guys would want these, the cards are great and the bubbles are a nice improvement.  But I don't need them ;D

A good buddy of mine just did the same thing and he couldn't be happier. I'm leaning toward doing the same, and the UGH is about to push me over the edge.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Artoo on March 18, 2006, 05:25 PM
Eh,alot of thoseare pegwarmers.....but I'm probally going to buy Mac,Clone,Pilot,R2 & Droideka.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2006, 09:16 PM
Yeah if they're out in abundance, there's some more of many that I'd not mind having.  Clone Troopers and Pilots come to mind.

Honestly, I find I'm the kind of guy that, if I'm in the store and have $5-$7 on me, I'll pick up a figure...  For instance a WM opened right near my girl's place and we're up there allt he time...  They're the only Wal-Mart I have seen with the Japanese and Operation Market Garden military figures I collect...  They're not REALLY interesting areas for me to buy up figures on though, but I find that when I'm in the store I buy a Japanese Infantry guy, or a OMG Rifleman every time I'm there...  They haven't had Star Wars at all there, so I can't buy a Republic Commando, or a Clone of any kind...  Can't even buy a Derlin or Bib Fortuna if I had an inclination to do so, but the military figure analogy is the same to me.

So if I walked in and they have a wall of this HOF wave, I'd pick up a Clone Pilot, sure.  I loved teh black EU pilot, and the grey one too.  I'd buy more troopers...  I'd consider picking up Obi for the customizing potential.

Certain things should just be there to buy...  Stormtroopers for instance.  If the VOTC figure were out there routinely, I guarantee I'd buy one, two, maybe 3 every time I saw them even if they were in massive abundance.  I'd surely do big lay-aways of them too just because they were there and I could.  The military lines I buy have been doing better about things like that, so thus I buy more that way I think.  Their distribution, sadly, surpassed Hasbro this year...  That's a day I didn't think I'd ever see given their horrid distribution in the past and Hasbro generally putting stuff out there.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Diddly on March 23, 2006, 07:39 PM
Those cards are really nice. I'll get the Black Clone Pilot, and maybe a few Droidekas and Clones. The rest of them suck though. I pity the carded collectors.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 24, 2006, 12:01 AM
I ordered a case from newforce. Can't beat the price or the ease.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Nirvana on March 29, 2006, 05:39 PM
Well, I'm kinda disappointed because of the lame-ass main character repacks, but the fact that they'll re-release the SA trooper and the black pilot kinda balances it out. I just hope these'll be in more abundance than any of the other waves, or else I'll miss this one too.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 29, 2006, 05:57 PM
I ordered a case as well. Works out nice since I am a good little sheep and simply want one of each for my MOC collection. No need to get a second set to open. I did the same thing with the HOF assortment in the previous Saga line.

I'm not surprised really that they did this. EP3 still seems to be doing well toy-wise. I think that's also the reason why they put the UGH with the Coruscant wave - it's the first Saga Collection wave that's focused on EP3 and at least here in NJ is selling better than any previous Saga Collection wave.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Mitsukara on March 29, 2006, 06:05 PM
This line is good news to me for one reason: it's another chance at the ROTS Chewie! I missed him the first time, and as far as I can tell he looks pretty good with his ball-jointed shoulders, elbows, turning wrist, and ball-joint knees, plus he has a nice bowcaster. Unless the action feature somehow ruins the articulation or something?...

Not that he's any replacement for a VOTC Chewie, but it'd be good to have an ROTS/ANH/ESB-passable version as well.

If I buy him and discover I've accidentally purchased the "Poodoo in Chewbacca Disguise" action figure, at least I got a nice bowcaster out of the deal.

When is this line coming out, though? Someone posted and said "after the Saga waves"?...

For my 2 round pieces of copper that probably don't have wheat on the backside, though, C3PO totally should've been reprinted in this line...
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: ruiner on March 30, 2006, 10:43 AM
I ordered a case as well. Works out nice since I am a good little sheep and simply want one of each for my MOC collection. No need to get a second set to open. I did the same thing with the HOF assortment in the previous Saga line.

I'm not surprised really that they did this. EP3 still seems to be doing well toy-wise. I think that's also the reason why they put the UGH with the Coruscant wave - it's the first Saga Collection wave that's focused on EP3 and at least here in NJ is selling better than any previous Saga Collection wave.

I think this Greatest Hits wave will flop at retail this time around.  Think about it - the actual movie helped the toys sell last year - that and the attractive price point (which was less than $5 for a good part of the year).

Now we're looking at no movie support and almost a $2 increase in price!  Unreal.  I say ditch the stands and holo figures and give us back $5 figures!

Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Jesse James on April 4, 2006, 12:45 AM
Depends how many ship...  If that sub-line heroes/villains thing is what is shipped in a deluge to stores, it could easily sit and not move at all...  If it's out like once and that's it though, you never know.  Very strange year this has been so far. 

In my area, anything would sell that isn't Hoth or Carkoon Wave because those are the two we got saturated with and the others just haven't shipped heavily.  Most of my stores still don't have a single figure on pegs, or even pegs for figures to be put upon, so right now most anything would sell here. :)  Derlin's, Veers', and Rieekan's need not apply.
Title: Greatest Hit Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 28, 2006, 11:14 AM
Saw this over at RS and looked for a thread here, I didn't find one but if there is one, feel free to delete this since I am pretty tired.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-SAGA-GREATEST-HITS-OF-ROTS-CASE-OF-1-12-EP3_W0QQitemZ6053898827QQcategoryZ2476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Do you think these will sell or peg warm? I know I'll pick up some SA 41 Clones for customs that my son wants done but that is about all. 
Title: Re: Greatest Hit Wave
Post by: Matt on April 28, 2006, 11:18 AM
Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF) (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=11188.0)

(And man, when will people learn to start coding up their links?  So much prettier that way.)
Title: Re: Greatest Hit Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 28, 2006, 08:08 PM
(And man, when will people learn to start coding up their links? So much prettier that way.)

Not all of us are as learned as you.  :P

Do you think these will sell or peg warm? I know I'll pick up some SA 41 Clones for customs that my son wants done but that is about all. 

I imagine the Clones will sell well, and of course Vader too (even though we've been inundated with Vaders lately).  But the rest will sit, except for the few that sell to carded completists. 
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 29, 2006, 06:03 PM
The first of the 12 figures:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/HeroesAndVillainsVader2.jpg)
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Gatillo on April 29, 2006, 08:13 PM
pass
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Ryan on May 1, 2006, 03:14 AM
Well I found wave 1 tonight. I bought the Trooper and the Pilot, really just for custom fodder and army building and such. They look nice on the cards but I'm not paying $7 for cardboard like many others have already said.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Ryan on May 1, 2006, 03:36 AM
I just opened them and it appears that the greatest hits don't come with figure stands. >:(

The Greivous is also the Exploding Grievous that was originally pictured not the 4-Saber Grievous.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 1, 2006, 09:35 PM
Do they at least come with Holo figures?
That way if I buy any (not likely) I can complete my 4th set of useless blue globs. :-*
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Ryan on May 1, 2006, 09:49 PM
Yeah they are still there. They need something worthless in there so they can still claim that the $7 pricepoint is justified. ::)
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 1, 2006, 10:19 PM
EDIT: by the way, when this thread is the most recently replied, why the heck does it say "Episode 3 Heroes &am" on the forum listing?? Anyone else notice this?

I've noticed this too - it seems to be a glitch in the software.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darth Broem on May 1, 2006, 10:19 PM
I saw them all today...except for the black pilot...the only figure I actually want from this wet.
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: ruiner on May 2, 2006, 09:15 AM
Do they at least come with Holo figures?


I wonder the same thing - do these come with the holos?

Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 2, 2006, 09:20 AM
Does this series have a seperate DCPI at Target?
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Jeff on May 2, 2006, 09:37 AM
Yes.

3.75" RotS Hits Figures:  087-06-1675
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Ryan on May 2, 2006, 12:44 PM
Do they at least come with Holo figures?


I wonder the same thing - do these come with the holos?



Yeah they are still there. They need something worthless in there so they can still claim that the $7 pricepoint is justified. ::)

 ;)
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jeff on May 2, 2006, 12:59 PM
And for those who don't like reading answers...

From Jared's Pictures (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1146541030,10565,):

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-06/rotshvc/saga_hv4_cardb.jpg)
Title: Re: Episode 3 Heroes & Villains Collection (aka Greatest Hits/HOF)
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 4, 2006, 09:17 AM
Yes.

3.75" RotS Hits Figures:  087-06-1675

Good, fodder for telling people that UGH ain't over. You know how they are, this new wave is shipping, so people are crying and panicking that it's a sign that they'll never see UGH on the pegs again. ::)
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: CHEWIE on May 5, 2006, 03:22 PM
More money for me to save for other SW items is the way I view most of these repacks.

 :)
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jesse James on May 5, 2006, 06:22 PM
Sith Eyes Variant of the Evo Anakin...  How smoothly would that figure flow out the door, honestly?  I'd go nuts if they made that actually.  :( 

I'm disappointed we don't see more SA sculpts put out in circulation when they exist.  They put out Obi's, so put out ANakin's too.

Hell put out Obi and Ani's SA figures with "burns" on their outfits and smudges and stuff for a Mustafar variant of both.  WOuld you not rebuy those figures just for that?  I would...  I'd love that.  :-\  I'd buy that Evolution Anakin 2 more times just like that then.  One Mustafar variant, and one clean for JTA Anakin...

Of course, the fear I'd have then is that they wouldn't get good distribution and they'd be a pain to find.  Very possible outcome with this being a wholely separate line and all.

I'm in on some of the Clones, even the Commander (they sold well here till the green one saturated the market completely).  If you're re-releasing a COmmander though at all, why not the correct paint Bly?  That's a bitch to find.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Mitsukara on May 5, 2006, 07:05 PM
To simplify the arguement at a glance from someone who hasn't even been keeping up with this subject...

This line of thought/production is like a TV Show, they're making new figures and then breaking for a long time for "reruns" from last year. The difference is that there's no excuse for this but sheer cheapness.

;)

I mean, sure, I'm glad they're rereleasing a few things that people actually liked and wanted more of and didn't suck... clones, Pilot Gear Obi Wan (but then again, why? Why don't they just repack the Coruscant wave one more instead of printing his stupid plastic cape?? So on second thought that repack sucks), Kit Fisto, Dooku... but they're rereleasing a ton of action-feature laden figures no one liked much the first time, some of which were just reprinted with minor improvements- now being reprinted without the improvements. Why?

The more one thinks about it, the worse the idea gets, really :/
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jim on May 6, 2006, 01:48 PM
Found two cases today at Walmart.  Picked up the 3 Clones.  The cardbacks make it tough not to buy for me.  The figs look so much better with the SAGA2 card design.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: JayDouble on May 10, 2006, 10:36 PM
Spotted these at TRU today. 
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 10, 2006, 11:10 PM
I'll give a big hug to anyone that can find me a Darth Vader with Vader holo (plus cost and shipping too ;)).


I am confused, how is the numbering on the inserts of the HV wave figures going to work after the first 12?

Yeah, me too.  Since the first wave is actually numbered x of 12, will they simply reship figures from that wave on the same cards and add a few more "numbers" to the total?  Makes you wonder if Hasbro even decided to do wave 2 before they designed the cards for wave 1.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jeff on May 12, 2006, 11:03 PM
So, I was out at one of the local Targets tonight and it was jam packed full of the first wave of these figures.

$6.64 plus tax, which is a bit cheaper than the $6.99 that TRU has been charging around here...

They left only one peg with the regular basic figure DPCI # (087-06-0576) label and that peg was full of the pegwarmers (Bib, Boushh, Gummi-Adi-Mundi).  The other 7 basic figure pegs were all relabeled with this Ep3 Hits wave DPCI # (087-06-1675) label.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: foolintherain76 on May 13, 2006, 02:46 PM
Just curious if the clone pilot is available in both colors or just the black one?  I got my case today and it had the black one.  Anybody seen the grey one or was that just a mistake of early artwork on websites?  Thanks
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: ruiner on May 14, 2006, 12:02 PM
Pretty sure that only the black one is shipping.

Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 14, 2006, 01:20 PM
Got notification that my case is shipping from NF. This first wave was perfect in that it's 12 of 12. I'm dreading the other two waves where I'll actually have to go to the store to get a full set without getting extra's.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Brian on May 15, 2006, 11:00 AM
I saw these (well, actually one) for the first time in town last Friday at TRU.  They had one hanging on the peg - a Chewie - and I decidd to pick it up.  The cardbacks are pretty spiffy, and I usually try to pick up extra Hans or Chewies to leave carded.  I haven't seen any others yet though, at any store in town.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: jedipurge on May 15, 2006, 01:12 PM
why when i went to Target on friday I saw some of these again but they scanned at $6.99 while the other waves they had on the pegs were $5.89?  There was even 2 different peg tags where they were hanging.  Anybody else seeing this?  Are we being set up for another price hike?
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 15, 2006, 02:00 PM
My question is why the hell do we need these? These are just old peg warming ep3 figures in new packaging. I see them taking up valuable peg space from the R5-D4 wave! I NEEED MY R5-D4 not another Anakin!
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: jedipurge on May 15, 2006, 04:32 PM
That takes it I've been to 2 different Targets both doing the same thing w/the different pricing of $6.99 & $5.89.  AMEN Phruby.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jeff on May 15, 2006, 04:37 PM
Like I said the other day, here in MN the stores that have the E3 H&V Collection have them priced at the same price as the normal basic figures - $6.64 each.

Most of the Targets around here abandoned the $5.89 price back in April and have been at $6.64 for a while now.   :-\
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jayson on May 15, 2006, 04:40 PM
The Target In Eden Prairie (MN) has the price on the pegs at $5.89
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Clone Hunter on May 15, 2006, 10:25 PM
Are these random packins or chases?

I've been to three different TRUs in three counties and saw only 1 figure in each store.

A Chewie, A Mace, and a Yoda.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: iFett on May 15, 2006, 11:34 PM
1 per case.  My local TRU is actually stocking these and I found two entire sets on two visits this past week.  Don't worry.  They're starting to hit Targets though the clones should be harder to come by of course.

Anybody feel like throwing up while entering a TRU?  Mine is done in all yellow (for summer perhaps) but it looks absoulutely putrid.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: kesselrunking on May 16, 2006, 10:26 PM
So far these have not been warming the pegs at all in my area.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: P-Siddy on May 17, 2006, 08:37 AM
The Target In Eden Prairie (MN) has the price on the pegs at $5.89

I'll definitely have to hit there now and then now, being so close to work!!

Thanks, Jay  ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jeff on May 19, 2006, 11:56 AM
Well, I got my case of wave 1 in the mail yesterday (from New Force).

They look nice on the Saga 2006 card and all, but I still can't help feeling like I really didn't need them. 

Paying $6.75 for a figure I bought last year for $4-5 seems more and more lame everytime I think about it....  especially for the figures like the Anakin who I've already bought twice this year (Saga #25 and UGH).

I guess I'll try not to think about it.  :-\
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jayson on May 19, 2006, 12:01 PM
That Anakin is different though the HV version includes Dooku's saber instead of the soft goods cloak  :P
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Scott on May 19, 2006, 12:09 PM
Why oh why oh why didn't they at lest paint the Clone Trooper w/ Gray pauldrons and trimming?  I'd have at least bought those.  The rest of the stuff can continue to doom SW to an early retail grave along with the Mini Unleashed and Transformers and Motorcycles
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jayson on May 19, 2006, 12:14 PM
I agree Scott. That is one of my favorite decos from EIII and Hasblo **** teases us by putting the SA Trooper on a Coruscant Clone cardback  :(
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Greg on May 19, 2006, 08:02 PM
I picked up the clone trooper last Saturday. I want to pick up some more of those, along with some more Clone Pilots and Destroyer Droids. For the rest, I'll order a case from EE, along with cases from the other two waves.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 19, 2006, 08:50 PM
I got my case from NF today. Since I stow my carded figures in the figure cases, I'm probably not even going to open it.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Roton7 on May 20, 2006, 01:01 AM
Well, I was originally going to boycott this line, but now I will be picking up a few white clones for only customizing. I'll try to stick to that.  :P
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: evenflow on May 20, 2006, 09:16 AM
I picked up the R2, i have no idea if he is really different, but it looked different enough.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: ruiner on May 20, 2006, 12:26 PM
I got my case from NF today. Since I stow my carded figures in the figure cases, I'm probably not even going to open it.

Me too.  I can't believe I bought the same figures again...

Got my very first look at the new VTSC figs though (my case arrived) - love the Biker Scout!

Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: ruiner on May 28, 2006, 12:59 PM
Does anybody have a complete listing of the Heroes and Villians set?  I'm trying to decide which cases I need to pre-order to complete a set....
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: CommanderKorbra on May 28, 2006, 02:46 PM
I've picked up Bacaras, destroyer droids, sa clones, and a clone pilot so far. I plan to get a few atte gunners, tac ops, and red/green commanders. Maybe a dooku for a custom. This line is mainly an army building chance for me.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 28, 2006, 04:29 PM
Does anybody have a complete listing of the Heroes and Villians set?  I'm trying to decide which cases I need to pre-order to complete a set....

Will this help?

Wave 1

___ 1 of 12 - Darth Vader (ROTS III-11)
___ 2 of 12 - Anakin Skywalker (ROTS III-2)
___ 3 of 12 - Yoda (ROTS III-3)
___ 4 of 12 - Commander Bacara (ROTS III-49)
___ 5 of 12 - Clone Trooper (SA) (ROTS III-41)
___ 6 of 12 - Clone Pilot (Black) (ROTS III-34)
___ 7 of 12 - Chewbacca (ROTS III-5)
___ 8 of 12 - Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS III-27)
___ 9 of 12 - General Grievous (ROTS III-36)
___ 10 of 12 - Mace Windu (ROTS III-10)
___ 11 of 12 - R2-D2 (ROTS III-7)
___ 12 of 12 - Destroyer Droid (ROTS III-44)

Wave 2

___ AT-TE Gunner (ROTS III-38)
___ C-3PO (ROTS III-18)
___ Count Dooku (ROTS III-13)
___ Kit Fisto (ROTS III-22)
___ Padme (ROTS III-19)
___ R4-P17 (ROTS III-64)
___ Royal Guard (blue) (ROTS III-23)
___ Tactical Ops Trooper (ROTS III-67)
___ Wookiee Warrior (ROTS Sneak Preview)

Wave 3

___ Clone Commander (Red) (ROTS III-33)
___ Clone Trooper (Red/Shock) (ROTS III-6)
___ Darth Vader (ROTS III-11)
___ Destroyer Droid (ROTS III-44)
___ Emperor Palpatine (ROTS III-12)
___ General Grievous (ROTS III-9)
___ Mace Windu (ROTS III-10)
___ Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS III-55)
___ R2-D2 (ROTS III-48)

http://www.jedidefender.com/checklists/normal/tsc.php#greatest

Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 29, 2006, 12:15 PM
Another reason to be annoyed with this line, it's officialy keeping the basic figures from being stocked. On paper, it shouldn't happen with auto ordering and all. However, most stockers don't know the difference between the two lines and are filling the basic pegs with H&V, so even if they have wave 5, they have no room to stock it. :P
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: ruiner on May 30, 2006, 03:31 PM
Thanks for the list Jesse.  It helps.

I pre-ordered waves 1 and 2 and most likely will pre-order wave three as it contains the elusive shock trooper.

I can always sell the duplicates here.  You guys will take them off my hands, right?  Hello?

 ;)
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Roton7 on May 30, 2006, 04:57 PM
I saw all of these today, minus the pilot. I bought none. I might pick up the SA clone, though. It's just that none of them are very attractive on the pegs.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Jesse James on May 30, 2006, 11:33 PM
They do tend to stick out like sore thumbs...

These are in some abundance out here but the Clones tend to go (duh) fast.  Nothing like 2005 pegwarmers to pegwarm 2006. :)
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Diddly on May 31, 2006, 12:53 AM
I've seen all but the Pilot... Clones and Droidekas sell, but everything else is as abundant as Holo Ki-Adi, Lushros, Derlin and Poggle.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Ben on May 31, 2006, 01:14 AM
I have yet to see Bacara and the Clone Pilot (the only one I want). I picked up a Clone this weekend, which was pretty cool.

I don't see why these are a buck more than the regular Saga line at Target.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 31, 2006, 02:40 AM
I picked up a MOC Clone Pilot thinking someone here would want it. I've seen one more since buying it, though, so I'm thinking ya'lls best bet is just to play it cool, and you'll find a few in time. They've landed in TRU and Wal-Mart, here.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: CHEWIE on May 31, 2006, 11:42 AM
I'm already sick of this wave... I see basically nothing but this wave, along with holo Ki Adi Mundi and Lushros Dofine everywhere I go...

 :)
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Reid on May 31, 2006, 05:00 PM
I'm already sick of this wave... I see basically nothing but this wave,  :)

I haven't even seen this wave.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Ben on May 31, 2006, 10:51 PM
I'm already sick of this wave... I see basically nothing but this wave, along with holo Ki Adi Mundi and Lushros Dofine everywhere I go...

 :)

That's what it's starting to look like here. The big H had a good thing going before these damn rehashes.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 2, 2006, 02:20 AM
I'm already sick of this wave... I see basically nothing but this wave, along with holo Ki Adi Mundi and Lushros Dofine everywhere I go...

 :)

That's what it's starting to look like here. The big H had a good thing going before these damn rehashes.

Yeah, it's really starting to kill the basic line. >:(
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Dan on June 2, 2006, 09:00 AM
I've seen more cases of the coruscant wave (minus cody) clogging the pegs here (Minnesota). fire pilots, floppy arm anikin and obi, mundi, foul, and even fire speeder pilots and orange clones. I want Tatooine!!

I have seen H and V a few times, and the troopers are even sitting at a Wal Mart near me. I might have to grab that Bacara just for future trade bait.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: evenflow on June 2, 2006, 05:27 PM
I picked up Yoda, R2, and the Clone Pilot.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Jesse James on June 3, 2006, 02:14 AM
I was out tonight...  Crap in a hat, these things are everywhere and clogging up faster than the toilet at Taco Bell.   >:(  Clone Pilot and Trooper move, so does Bacara it seems, but the rest just seem to sit.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection (Greatest Hits)
Post by: Rob on June 3, 2006, 02:28 AM
I'm already sick of this wave... I see basically nothing but this wave,  :)

I haven't even seen this wave.

Lucky for you, I can't sniff the Tatooine wave because every store I walk into has an abundance of these lame-o ROTS repacks...
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: mr director on June 6, 2006, 07:29 AM
These are becoming pegwarmers.  I looking for the Tatooine wave and all I see now are these H&V.  I've gotten these figures before (thru ROTS) don't need them again.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Jesse James on June 7, 2006, 02:13 AM
Did a run another direction tonight and the same thing...  Stores are loaded with these like a baby's diaper.  Every WM has them falling off the pegs and even TRU's overflowing with them. 

Target seems to be separating them to some extent, but they still blow and are everywhere.

The Clone and Clone Pilot seem to disappear while the majority of the rest sit and fester.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Ryan on June 7, 2006, 02:54 AM
The Clone and Clone Pilot seem to disappear while the majority of the rest sit and fester.

Even the clones are starting to sit around here...
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Jesse James on June 7, 2006, 03:12 AM
I saw more than a couple pilots tonight...  The trooper still has some fans for the card right now here I guess.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 7, 2006, 09:37 AM
The Clone and Clone Pilot seem to disappear while the majority of the rest sit and fester.

Even the clones are starting to sit around here...

Same here. >:(

Seriously, I know I said this a few posts up, but these are killing the basic figure line, and fast. In almost every Target store near me this week, in stead of stocking the basic line, which they have in stock, they stocked the H&V on their pegs and they are just sitting.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: SilverZ on June 7, 2006, 03:08 PM
This seems to be the situation up here as well, at least in my closest Target, which is a lower volume store. The pegs are clogged with Chewie, Obi-Wan, and Yoda, while the VTSC Greedos are now invading the basic line's peg space as well. There's no place to put new figures.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Roton7 on June 7, 2006, 03:16 PM
Well, the H&V Mace, Chewie, and R2 are the main pegwarmers. And you know what's weird? The most abundant figure at my closest Wal*Mart is the SA Clone! I thought that thing would be impossible to find!
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: mr director on June 8, 2006, 08:02 AM
Unfortunately at WM or Target in my area they won't put anything else up until those pegwarmers start to decrease.  (Probably happens at every store)
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: ddschneider1972 on June 11, 2006, 03:18 PM
I easily found a Yoda with Yoda Holo, but it took me until today after looking through many Vaders the past 2 months to find a Vader with Vader...plus a buddy found a Bespin Vader with Vader for me today!

I've seen a good mix of them around town, I would say probably more Yoda than anything warming pegs in this wave...I mean the same figure was released 3X within 2 months.  First in the Coruscant Wave, then the Senate Battle Pack, then the Hero and Villain set...and he was not hard to come by last year on the ROTS card.
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Jesse James on June 11, 2006, 07:06 PM
I've been out this weekend and it's even worse...  H&V have now doubled at some stores in quantity and most are laying on the ground at the WM's I visit...  Other stores are a little cleaner, but same situation.

Target has this half-assed attempt to have H&V separate from "basic", and somehow with different prices (I'm confused as hell as to why H&V figures are about $.50 more...  Why?  They're not even new), but yeah these turds are clogging every toilet at this point.

Yoda, Chewbacca (lesser extent, but not by much), Vader and some others are wildly abundant.  The only basics I see lately are Vaders, Vaders, more Vaders, and Yoda, and Poggle...  The only I see in abundance anyway.

So the same H&V's that sit are the same Basics that sit...  Who'd have possibly imagined this happening?  Oh yeah, nearly everyone on this forum...  And Hasbro still went through with this?  Brilliant.

H&V really should've been a limited thing if they did it...  Some of those figures are just completely stupid choices.  The Clones are ok and are selling (even Bacara though I blame that on the new card and not the figure, as he pegwarmed last year and is bound to fill up if he's released heavily again this year).
Title: Re: EpIII Heroes & Villains Collection
Post by: Artoo on June 11, 2006, 10:45 PM
I haven't seen The 3 clones & the Droideka.I've only seen H&V at Walmart so far.