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Title: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Reid on June 17, 2006, 01:27 PM
From one of the Hasbro Q&A:

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Will we see more new Vehicles such as the AT-TE, Cloud Car, V-wing, in the foreseeable future? Can you be specific as to which ones?
"We *will* be producing some new vehicles in the 3-3/4" Starfighter Vehicle line-up in 2007. We cannot be more specific at this time…sorry! "

I'm guessing there will be 2-3 new vehicles. My picks:

Imperial V-Wing:

(http://starwars.wikia.com/images/9/98/Alpha-3_Nimbus.jpg)

CIS Tank Droid:

(http://starwars.wikia.com/images/e/ec/NR-N99_Persuader-class.jpg)

Gian Speeder:

(http://starwars.wikia.com/images/2/2e/Gian.jpg)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Vator on June 17, 2006, 02:15 PM
I haven't seen anything in the two Q and A's thus far that indicates "New Assault Vehicles in '07", if by that you mean products similar to the latter two examples presented in your post. I'd like to see both vehicles made, especially the Gian due to it's customizing potential, but so far we haven't heard anything to indicate that their release is imminent, so let's not get ahead of ourselves with the Q and A's, as some have been more than willing to do on other sites.  ;)

That said, Hasbro has specifically mentioned that we will be seeing new additions to the Starfighter Assortment next year, so I'd say the V-Wing is a good bet.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Roton7 on June 17, 2006, 03:27 PM
I just want a Firespeeder, although that would never happen  :'(
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: CHEWIE on June 17, 2006, 11:57 PM
Based on Hasbro's answer in one of their questions from www.yakface.com -

2)  have read much about cost issues etc with creating new ships/playsets. But the Star Wars 3.3/4" line is about re-creating enviroment and scenes that make us feel the magic. Surely there are ways to get ships done including large ones. And smaller ones with electronic features. Whadaya say Hasbro?

-Zak N Sam

We *will* be producing some new vehicles in the 3-3/4" Starfighter Vehicle line-up in 2007.  We'll look at features (Eelectronic or otherwise) on a vehicle-by-vehicle basis.


That leads me to believe that some new vehicles will be out in 2007... but I hope it's not starfighters, I want an AT-TE or Turbo Tank.

 :)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Famine on June 18, 2006, 01:44 AM
No, it says "Starfighter", so I bet it's more starfighters.

Perhaps orange, pink, and neon yellow?

Kevin
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Clone Hunter on June 18, 2006, 02:02 AM
A starfighter might be kool if it came with Buzz droids. You never can have too many!  ;)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: CHEWIE on June 18, 2006, 02:24 AM
No, it says "Starfighter", so I bet it's more starfighters.

Perhaps orange, pink, and neon yellow?

Kevin

Damnit Kevin, we need something other than Starfighters.  You can fix this problem, right? 

 :)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Gatillo on June 18, 2006, 10:14 AM
I am all for ships of any kind but we have had nothing but ships for a while now.  I am ready for something with wheels over landing gear.  If I keep hanging stuff in my basement ceiling it is going to crack ::)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Famine on June 18, 2006, 11:41 AM
No, it says "Starfighter", so I bet it's more starfighters.

Perhaps orange, pink, and neon yellow?

Kevin
Damnit Kevin, we need something other than Starfighters.  You can fix this problem, right? 

I'll see what I can do.

Kevin
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: commander apoc on June 18, 2006, 07:32 PM
I would defently hope for the V-wing starfighter to come out for all the collectors people.

I hope they make the Juggernaut A6, The Utapaun P-38 and Grievous's Starfighter.

Even the Techno Union Starfighter, the Swamp speeder and Droidgunship (HMP) are welcome to be build for all whom want to collect them...

Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: speedermike on June 18, 2006, 09:15 PM
I was just going to start a thread on this...

I'd say that it will be someof the folowing...

V-Wing
Tank Droid
Jedi Speeder (the ones that Ani and Obi flew around town)
Swampspeeder
Grievous' Ship

All of these are small and doable at the 20.00-25.00 price point
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on June 19, 2006, 10:14 AM
My money is on the V-Wing and the Tank Droid...and I'd be happy with those two. Of course, I would probably crap my pants for an AT-TE...
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jeff on June 19, 2006, 10:22 AM
The fact that they said "Starfighter Vehicle Line-up" sounds to me like they will be more $20 ships.

I hope that means that 2007 is the year that we will (finally) see the Cloud Car.

Also, weren't there some rumors about the old Vintage TIE mold being re-used to crank out a "new" White TIE Fighter? 
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2006, 10:36 AM
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The fact that they said "Starfighter Vehicle Line-up" sounds to me like they will be more $20 ships.

That's kind of what I got from it as well Jeff.  I think that the $20 pricepoint line is the "starfighter line-up", and really the one that Hasbro likes to push overall.  Anything else larger seems to be exclusives at this point, at least for the most part.  I could see the V-Wing, which would be cool, but I'm really hoping we finally see that Cloud Car too.  It should easily be able to fit into that pricepoint (or less).
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 11:36 AM
Seems like retail has jumped to a $25 pricepoint though on the small vehicles, at least all the Target and TRU stores in my area have.

 :)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Rune Haako on June 19, 2006, 03:06 PM
I'd like,

Corporate Alliance Tank Droid

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/tankdroid/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Commerce Guild Homing Spider Droid

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/droid/homingspiderdroid/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Trade Federation Platoon Attack Craft aka Troop Carrier

(http://starwars.wikia.com/images/a/af/PAC.jpg)

Droid Gunship

(http://starwars.wikia.com/images/2/25/HMP_Sticker.jpg)

General Grievous' Starfighter the Soulless One

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/grievousfighter/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Techno Union Starfighter

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/technounionstarfighter/img/movie_bg.jpg)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Reid on June 19, 2006, 03:51 PM
I'd also like to see:

CIS Belbullab-22 Starfighter:


(http://starwars.wikia.com/images/8/87/Belbullab-22.jpg)

Imperial Assault Gunboat:

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/republicassaultgunboat/img/movie_bg.jpg)

Naboo N1 Starfighter (New Sculpt!):

(http://starwars.wikia.com/images/e/e0/Aaaaaaa.JPG)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 03:59 PM
Good choices guys.  I know it's big, but the Homing Spider Droid really shouldn't be a hard item for them to make.

 :)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jesse James on June 19, 2006, 04:53 PM
Homing Spider coudl be made to-scale if they made the legs removable in the packaging (IE: Some assembly required).  It's really mostly "air" and some thin legs, not so much big then. 

The Corp. Alliance Tank Droid is my top want though if there are new vehicles coming.  To-scale it'd be right around the $20 packaging size...  Not a big vehicle at all really, and one of the more prevalant in ROTS.  I'd say Grievous' fighter has a decent shot at being made as well compared to some choices. 

The tank droid's a top for me though, I really want that done to-scale in this line.  My Clones are itchin' to shoot at those SOB's.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 05:53 PM
I know how you feel Jesse... my clones need more Separatist vehicles to blow up.

 :)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Clone Hunter on June 19, 2006, 07:46 PM
Of the new choices, Id want the Commerce Guild Homing Spider Droid and the Droid gunship. I never could wrap my head around Grievous' ship.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: speedermike on June 19, 2006, 08:05 PM
The Naboo fighter is a nice sculpt.  The only problem was the silver paint didn't look so great.  If they re-relaesed it with chrome plastic on the front half, I'd buy another.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: DoctorPadawan on June 19, 2006, 09:35 PM
Call me crazy, but I don't think the Naboo N-1 Fighter that was done in 1999 can really be improved upon.  I think it's pretty spot-on in terms of detailing, and (Jesse, correct me if I'm wrong) it's in perfect scale to the actual ship.  The silver idea isn't bad, but I still think the Episode I version holds up to this day.

If I had my pick of what would be in this "Starfighter" assortment...

-V-Wing Fighter (include a Clone Pilot)
-Cloud Car (include a CCP)
-Homing Spider Droid
-Tank Droid
-A resculpted AT-ST
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Greg on June 19, 2006, 10:01 PM
With these supposed new vehicles coming out, I really hope to see a CA Tank Droid or Spider Droid, a Cloud Car (Lobot and my Cloud Car Pilot need somewhere to go  :P), a V-Wing, and an AT-AP (the walker that looks a litte like half of an AT-TE) or an AT-XT (prototype Scout Walker used on Jabiim, Thule, and Raxus in the Clone Wars.)

I was also curious if the V-Wing was present during the third movie during the space battle. I think I saw several of them fly between the Republic Cruiser and Invisible Hand right as they were about to duke it out, but were they any more visible anywhere else during the battle?
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Diddly on June 19, 2006, 10:54 PM
The V-Wing escorted Palpatine to and from Mustafar, and it also was seen flying at the camera at the very end when it showed the Star Destroyer. Small amount of screen time, but I think it's worthy of being made into a toy.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jesse James on June 20, 2006, 01:11 AM
I've never looked into it much but the N1 toy might be to-scale.  If not, it's only off by a hair...  Not a ship I'm fond of either way though as it's from E1 which is sort of blah, and really it's only seen/important in the one film for one minor battle...  For me to get behind a vehicle I'd need it to have been something important in the Clone Wars or Galactic Civil War...  That's me though.

I think it might be to-scale though Dr. P, I am not positive but eyeballing it and I think so.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Darth Broem on June 20, 2006, 10:06 AM
I would think anything that Hasbro can shove a clonetrooper into would be considered and probable.  Even an AT-TE.  I am hoping that the upcoming Clone Wars series has some of these same vehicles.  So that Hasbro will make several that have been mentioned like the Spider, AT-TE, V-Wing, Turbo Tank, etc. 


Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Artoo on June 23, 2006, 01:30 AM
V-Wing
AT-TE
Corporate Alliance Tank Droid
AT-ST (Resculpt)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jayson on June 23, 2006, 01:31 PM
According to RS...

"OK, so first Hasbro makes the sweet, sweet Dagobah X-wing with retooled Luke, then they actually start answering the questions all the collector sites ask them, and now they give collectors exactly what they want… Assuming what they want are the SITH INFILTRATOR and the V-WING FIGHTER.

We're not talking about Titanium vehicles either. These are going to be scaled to fit 3 3/4" figures. Hokey Smokes, eh?"
Title: V-wing and Sith Infiltrator?
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 23, 2006, 01:49 PM
Really? (http://http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_411_New_Vehicles_99037.asp)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Reid on June 23, 2006, 05:09 PM
According to RS...

"OK, so first Hasbro makes the sweet, sweet Dagobah X-wing with retooled Luke, then they actually start answering the questions all the collector sites ask them, and now they give collectors exactly what they want… Assuming what they want are the SITH INFILTRATOR and the V-WING FIGHTER.

We're not talking about Titanium vehicles either. These are going to be scaled to fit 3 3/4" figures. Hokey Smokes, eh?"


Sweetness!

The Sith Infiltrator should at least be the size of the E1 Royal Naboo Cruiser to be to-scale. I'm hoping that a pack-in will be the Evo Darth Maul with a SG robe, and three CIS Probe Droids.

The V-Wing should be about $20-25, around the size of a Jedi Interceptor. I'm hoping a pack-in will be ROTS Tarkin or a NEW V-Wing Crewman.

This is great news, although I was hoping for some new EU/CW vehicles.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Roton7 on June 23, 2006, 05:11 PM
I think the V-wing will be great, but I think the Infiltrator will be way undersized, and instead of the Evo Maul pack-in, we're gonna get some lame TPM Maul, or maybe no pack-in at all. :'(


But hopefully I'm wrong!
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on June 23, 2006, 05:24 PM
Sweetness!

The Sith Infiltrator should at least be the size of the E1 Royal Naboo Cruiser to be to-scale. I'm hoping that a pack-in will be the Evo Darth Maul with a SG robe, and three CIS Probe Droids.

The V-Wing should be about $20-25, around the size of a Jedi Interceptor. I'm hoping a pack-in will be ROTS Tarkin or a NEW V-Wing Crewman.

This is great news, although I was hoping for some new EU/CW vehicles.

Why would we need a ROTS Tarkin packed with the V-Wing?

I'd like a V-Wing pilot as a pack in, but I'm thinking we probably won't get anything as a pack in.

Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Matt on June 23, 2006, 05:38 PM
The Sith Infiltrator should at least be the size of the E1 Royal Naboo Cruiser to be to-scale.

At least.  I hope it's bigger, actually. 

At $100, the Naboo ship was a smash-hit at retail during the Christmas season of the year the movie came out.  I'm sure that a new toy, similarly-sized and similarly-priced, of a vehicle which had a fraction of the screen time that the first ship did, will be just as big of a success at retail.  Especially now that seven years have passed, and the Phantom Menace Hype Machine is hotter than ever.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Clone Hunter on June 23, 2006, 06:07 PM
The Sith Infiltrator should at least be the size of the E1 Royal Naboo Cruiser to be to-scale.

At least.  I hope it's bigger, actually. 

At $100, the Naboo ship was a smash-hit at retail during the Christmas season of the year the movie came out.  I'm sure that a new toy, similarly-sized and similarly-priced, of a vehicle which had a fraction of the screen time that the first ship did, will be just as big of a success at retail.  Especially now that seven years have passed, and the Phantom Menace Hype Machine is hotter than ever.

Well, I believe most of the Sith Infiltrator is unusable for a person. It is basically a TIE fighter with a loooong nose. I think they can fit that in that size box. Though it would be nice if it at least had a cargo bay to fit his speeder.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Artoo on June 23, 2006, 06:39 PM
Great news,it'd be better if they announced an AT-TE for next year too!
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Spectre on June 23, 2006, 06:43 PM
The Sith Infiltrator will be SMALL, Hasbro said that the only newly tooled vehicles coming next year will be in the Starfighter Assortment (Obi-Wan Jedi Starfighter/Anakin Jedi Starfighter/Grevious' Wheelbike/Droid Tri-Figher sized box). I can easily see a TIE ball-sized crew compartment with the variable geometry wings on either side and a short, fat wedge in the front (possibly fat enough to fit his speeder inside).  No pack-ins will be issued for this or the V-Wing, although I'm sure that there will be Basic figures of Maul and a V-Wing Pilot (though more likely another go round for the black Clone Pilot) available during the same general window of availability as the vehicles. I'm happy with this scale as I'm not a Maul fan and I can buy all of the ones that the fans leave on the shelves and use them as Space Pirate Interceptors :D
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: CHEWIE on June 23, 2006, 08:53 PM
I am thinking Maul's ship will be about the size of the X-Wings they make now.  Cool, but I want an AT-TE.

 :)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jim on June 23, 2006, 09:05 PM
My fear on the Infiltrator is that it will be terribly underscaled.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Gatillo on June 23, 2006, 09:32 PM
It will be. >:(  To be part of the regular vehicle assortment it will have to underscaled like nothing we have seen before.  There is no way they will make one that you can put the sith speeder inside of, that is too  much to ask. :-\
Title: Sith Infiltrator, V-Wing Confirmed For '07
Post by: Reid on June 23, 2006, 09:57 PM
Hasbro could suprise us, it could be around the size of an ARC-170...
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Diddly on June 23, 2006, 10:01 PM
There is no way they'll ever make a scaled Infiltrator. I'll have to dig out the Episode I Incredible Cross Sections book for confirmation, but I remember seeing that Maul had a giant cockpit that could seat like 12 additional people.

I think what we'll get is a redone TIE Fighter made to look like the Infiltrator, with a Probe Droid and a Maul packed in. And you know they'll either have to pack a Maul with it or recard one, since I bet kids/newer collectors don't have one yet.
Title: Re: Sith Infiltrator, V-Wing Confirmed For '07
Post by: Gatillo on June 23, 2006, 11:23 PM
Hasbro could suprise us, it could be around the size of an ARC-170...

I think they made it clear that the infiltrator and the v-wing are in the assult vehicle line.  AKA the 20 to $25 line with the jedi fighter and the likes.

I wish it was to scale (I would glady eat my words as I play with it) but if they cannot do a decent scale falcon, I highly doubt this would happen.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 24, 2006, 02:11 AM
I'm personally more happy to see you guys get the Sith Infiltrator since it's been high on everyone's list. I don't know what I'd do with one though. No matter what size, it's going to be too big. Love the V-wing though, can't wait for it.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jesse James on June 24, 2006, 09:59 PM
The Sith Infiltrator will be underscaled, it's almost an inevitable fact really...  The ship's not small in the first place, so I'm not even going to get hopes up on this being even reasonably sized.

The V-Wing SHOULD be to-scale given the small size of that fighter...  I hope a good V-Wing Pilot comes out shortly thereafter or before for it. 

The Sith Infiltrator I'm going to most likely be passing on though, but I have high hopes for that V-Wing.  I wanted that much more than a Sith Infiltrator anyway.  Maul's ship was such an afterthought that I've never really gotten what the hype was around it...  Slave I had more appeal in its brief ESB scenes than the Infiltrator ever did.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Gatillo on June 24, 2006, 10:45 PM
I think the Infiltrator's appeal is just that it was a new ship.  New movie, new characters, new ships and in that context it was ok.  I am a sucker for vehicles so sucky as it is doomed to be, I'll get the one.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Reid on June 24, 2006, 10:53 PM
The Sith Infiltrator will be underscaled, it's almost an inevitable fact really...  The ship's not small in the first place, so I'm not even going to get hopes up on this being even reasonably sized.



The Cruisemissile Trooper was to-scale so why shoudn't the Infiltrator be?
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Gatillo on June 24, 2006, 11:05 PM
The ship is just too big, it would be too big and expensive to create to scale.

I decided to go all out geek on this one and pull out some resources.  According to the cross-sections book, it fits 6 passengers and is suppose to be 88 feet long.

Even though Maul was the only one in the ship this is no Naboo Fighter.  T*his is one complex vehicle with elevator, cargo hold and the works.  The cabin will be heavily underscaled as will be the front part of the ship.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Darth_Deastron on June 25, 2006, 01:13 AM
I'm really hyped about the CIS Tank droid, it seems really cool, and I'm really glad about that Sith Infiltrator too.  8)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jesse James on June 25, 2006, 02:48 AM
Then I hope the CIS Tank Droid comes out...   ;D

But yes, the SIth Infiltrator was new in 1999...  That's a while ago though, and I thinkt he hype's dead on this one...  Either way I'm not concerned really because I'm sort of writing this one off as it is anyway...

Quote
The Cruisemissile Trooper was to-scale so why shoudn't the Infiltrator be?

The CMT was a Hasbro creation without anything to gauge scale by, plus it's tiny of course, so I'm not sure of the analogy...  The Infiltrator in scale to the figures isn't unfathomable for certain, it can be done, but I cannot imagine them actually doing it to-scale...  As someone pointed out, it'd be about the size of the Queen's Starship...  And as someone else pointed out quite plainly, that hunk of junk sat at even the height of the film it was featured in and immediately tanked at retail...  Hasbro will work for smaller and less expensive on the Infiltrator I think so I really just am not getting "anxious" for this one.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: ruiner on June 26, 2006, 08:21 AM
Do you think Hasbro is passing on the AT-TE because they have the AT-AT tooling which is still usable?

Are the two vehicles too close in price/size for retail to support?

I find it hard to believe that they are willing to invest in a Sith Infiltrator - is this vehicle high on collectors' list(s)?

Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 26, 2006, 09:45 AM
It seems to me that with the rumor or announcement of the Infiltrator that the AT TE would be a bit much. I would guess that it's not to be this year.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Nathan on June 26, 2006, 09:57 PM
I'm pretty excited about the V-wing because it's a cool vehicle AND falls under my general budgetary/space range.

The Sith Infiltrator is just "meh" though. Don't get me wrong--it's a great ship. But as a toy it's so far down my priority list that I can't get excited about the release. Not to mention that it will have to be horrendously underscaled in any event.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Kit on June 27, 2006, 06:38 AM
I was really surprised by the announcement of the "Sith Infiltrator."  I guess hasbro "really does care." ;) lol

Anyways, I strongly doubt we could fit the "sith speeder" and all the goodies from the sith gear pack inside of the vehicle.  Prove me wrong hasbro.....
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: 212th Battalion on July 19, 2006, 03:25 PM
i just hope that they make an impeareal v-wing  ;)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: DoctorPadawan on November 29, 2006, 07:11 PM
The first wave of these hit my local TRU today in volume, or as Morbo would say, "Belligerent and abundant."  There were at least 10 of each of the three "new" vehicles on the shelves in all their unneccessarily angled box glory. 

I went ahead and picked up the Hailfire Droid (and I'll probably get the AAT too, eventually) at TRU's higher 25 dollar price on Assault Vehicles, and I think the paint job is pretty good.  I still like the original Clone Wars version better, but the Separatist Armada theme on this one (think the ROTS Vulture Droid) works much better than the "Jungle Camo" bull**** of the TSC Battle Droids and Super Battle Droids.

So yeah, if you're interested in vehicles, these are now out at at least one retailer.

Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: DoctorPadawan on December 3, 2006, 03:36 PM
Well, thanks to a receipt from TRU that gave me three dollars off a purchase, I caved in and bought both the AAT and the Vader JSF (or SSF) yesterday.  I hadn't planned on getting Vader's fighter, as it's not even in my realm of EU acceptance (I'm pretty much a six films and Clone Wars type of person), but the photo on the back made it seem pretty cool.

And cool it is.  I'm a big fan of the ROTS JSF designs, and while the huge Imperial logos on the top wings are a little gaudy, and the huge red Imperial logo stickers alongside them make it somewhat redundant, the ship does look incredibly cool.  Something that a lot of photos (and the ones on the box itself) don't really show all that well so far is the canopy and TIE-style window in the cockpit are red instead of the regular clear "glass."  This makes the ship look extremely sinister. 

My only complaint is, once again, with the labels.  The labels in the cockpit are, like the other JSFs, an absolute pain to get in correctly and uniformly, but the worst of them all are the droid body labels.  Even though the Anakin and Obi-Wan mass market JSFs' droid labels were done well, the Mace and Obi-Wan TRU JSF's droid labels are way too large for the body.  This continues with Vader.  I seriously gave up trying to exacto-knife the labels down to fit correctly, and it looks just as good with a solid unlabelled black body to me. :)  But hey, at least there is a Vader available at retail that can actually sit in the cockpit, which is more than I can say for the Kit Fisto/Saesee Tiin JSF models.   ::)

The AAT, strangely enough, is such an improvement over the Episode I version from 1999 that it's not even funny.  The E1 version always felt very fragile to me, with the two cannons on the side of the body always seemingly in danger of falling off, and the cockpit cover being on a hair trigger.  In other words, it is a nice piece to look at on a shelf, but not very sturdy.

The new version, however, is extremely sturdy.  Hasbro got rid of the stupid cockpit launching feature (they may have done this on the 2003 Clone Wars version too, in which case I might need to track one of those down if it's as sturdy as this new one), and the quality of plastic on the side gun arms is much improved since the 1999 version.  Like the JSFs, though, the stickers do require a bit of creative Exacto knife usage to fit correctly, but nowhere near as much. 

The best thing about the new version is the paintjob.  It's incredibly dark, much darker than what the photos on the box lead you to believe.  Where the 1999 version looked fresh off the assembly line (aside from the scoring along the missle launchers), this new version has seen plenty of action.  Tons of silver metal scrapes, lots of scoring, and (fictional) hints of the vehicle's paint wearing down in areas make this vehicle one of the best jobs Hasbro's done with a vehicle repaint in a long time (probably the best EU update since the Saga A-Wing, if I may be so presumptuous). 

It's actually kind of sad that the second wave of vehicles in 2007 is going to be yet another JSF repaint with no corresponding figure and a ridiculously underscaled repaint that nobody wanted to begin with.  These three vehicles (including the Hailfire Droid, which is also really well painted) are all well worth picking up if you're a fan of vehicles, but if you have to get just one, pick up the AAT for sure.

At this rate, I'm going to need to set up another whole set of shelves for just the EU Clone Wars vehicles which, by and large, have been consistently great.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Gatillo on December 3, 2006, 10:42 PM
I could not agree more.  I picked up an ATT yesterday and ran back today to get another.  Sweet.  I have several TPM ones but this was is much better.  Makes me wish I coudl exchnages the old ones for the new ones.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Roton7 on December 3, 2006, 10:58 PM
Well by the sounds of it, I may just have to track down one of those ATTs. :)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jediknight760071 on December 4, 2006, 12:44 AM
As will I...

The Clone Wars one was just like the Episode I tank...it's not really that great.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 4, 2006, 10:29 AM
I could not agree more.  I picked up an ATT yesterday and ran back today to get another.  Sweet.  I have several TPM ones but this was is much better.  Makes me wish I coudl exchnages the old ones for the new ones.

The only difference is the paint job, right? The paint job is that good?
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 4, 2006, 12:55 PM
The paint job does look better, however, IMO I don't think it makes it look that much better.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: ruiner on December 5, 2006, 01:47 PM
Here's my recommendation for repaint of the year:

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/127.jpg)

I can't believe this one is packed one per case...even in the revisional assortments.

Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Gatillo on December 6, 2006, 10:20 PM
That is just bad-ass
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2006, 04:23 AM
Getting one for X-Mas, and I gotta agree that out of that wave the Vader Jedi Fighter is just outstanding looking... 

Though the AAT and Hailfire really are nice updated paintjobs and the kids have to love those.  I know a 9 year old getting both and he doesn't know it yet, but saw the pics online of them and went nuts asking for them...  A little lie to him that they weren't out yet will keep his surprise safe.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: JangoTat on December 29, 2006, 02:27 PM
vaders star fighter looks the coolest. the AAT looks pretty nice too though.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Gatillo on December 29, 2006, 04:22 PM
I could not agree more.  I picked up an ATT yesterday and ran back today to get another.  Sweet.  I have several TPM ones but this was is much better.  Makes me wish I coudl exchnages the old ones for the new ones.

The only difference is the paint job, right? The paint job is that good?

I totally missed your post but yes the paint job is that good.  The thing look like a real vehicle from the movie and not a toy.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: CHEWIE on January 3, 2007, 06:43 PM
I think all three - Vader's Starfighter, Hailfire Droid and the AAT have really good paint jobs.  Some of Hasbro's best!

 ;)
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Gatillo on January 7, 2007, 04:23 PM
Without a doubt.  I love them and I really hope this is a mark of future things to come.  Hasbro keeps dissapointing me with figure but kudos on vehicles.  Even that shuttle for $60 was nice even if I pay too much at FAO.com years ago.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: David on January 7, 2007, 07:53 PM
I think all three - Vader's Starfighter, Hailfire Droid and the AAT have really good paint jobs.  Some of Hasbro's best!

 ;)

 ;D

true. some repaints/packs do make sense these days!  :o

too bad i havent found any of these yet.  :(
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 8, 2007, 09:28 AM
If it wasn't for the space issues I'm having, I'm sure I would have bought a second set of all three by now.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 8, 2007, 02:38 PM
Here's my recommendation for repaint of the year:

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/127.jpg)

I can't believe this one is packed one per case...even in the revisional assortments.

Combine the sharp design of the Jedi Starfighter with the sexy Sith black?  Oh yeah, I need this.  8)

Now if they would just finally show up, I'd be happy.  [/Canadian rant]
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Brian on January 17, 2007, 03:25 PM
Just curious, but has anyone been seeing the "new" (30 AC boxed) vehicles at Target stores?  I've seen the newly packaged ships at both TRU and Wal-Mart, but our Target doesn't even seem to have a spot for vehicles currently.  On the lower shelves, there are tin sets, battle packs, and lots of spring-loaded lightsabers.  I was just wondering if anyone has been seeing vehicles (new or old) at their Target stores, at least since the reset.  I'm sure they are coming back (exclusives and all), but it is just an observation.

TRU seems to have had the newer wave a couple of times (picked up a Vader Starfighter there - for $5 more), and I saw the AAT at Wal-Mart once so they must have been there at some point as well (shelf sticker is still there).
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: I Am Sith on January 17, 2007, 03:35 PM
Nothing at Target or WM around here.  I have seen these at TRU only.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 17, 2007, 03:43 PM
The only place that has carried vehicles in the last year is Toys R Us (in my city), and even they have removed the Vehicle section since the new year.  :'(
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2007, 04:25 PM
I have seen them at Targets, but only a couple of times. Once was just before Christmas as a matter of fact. I haven't seen any at Target in the last 2 weeks-
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: David on January 17, 2007, 07:25 PM
i saw a beaten-up packaging sith starfighter at target the day after xmas, but thats it for vehicles for me that ive seen. i want hailfire droids and AATs!
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 18, 2007, 09:37 AM
I wonder how many straight repacks we're going to get? I meant to pick up an opener Mace Starfighter, but never got around to it. I know we're getting one of the TRU Starfighter exclusives, but that's all I know.
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Greg on January 18, 2007, 09:43 AM
Hey Darth Anton. Mace Windu's Jedi Starfighter is currently shipping with the other two starfighters.(Anakin's and Obi-Wan's) I saw a bunch of them at my local Target, so you may want to check out the next Target you go to if you still want one.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: iFett on February 28, 2007, 06:59 PM
That hyperspace ring in the background sure is mocking me.  >:(
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2007/TACobiwanfighter.jpg)

Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 28, 2007, 08:26 PM
I'm honestly quite baffled as to why Hasbro is rereleasing the Obi-Wan (and apparently Anakin, if EE's listing is to be believed, and I have no reason to doubt it) JSF yet again, when every Target and TRU I've been in for the last few months has had nothing but Obi-Wan and Anakin JSFs sitting on the shelves in the vehicle section.  I thought the off-hand mention of the TRU exclusive Utapau and Mustafar paint job versions being rotated into the regular line-up boded well, but now it's more of the same. 

I certainly hope that Mace/Obi-Wan/Anakin JSFs come out after the Sith Infiltrator and V-Wing, as if they come out before the new ships, it might create a shipping bottleneck.  :-\
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: Nicklab on February 28, 2007, 09:03 PM
It does seem like the vehicle case packouts are being steered in certain directions.  After all of the talk on a number of message boards complaining about another Jedi Starfighter repaint, look what we got in the most current assault vehicle case:  the Saesee Tiin Jedi Starfighter is one per case, and the white TIE Fighter is packed in that case in greater numbers.  In this regard it seems that Hasbro is listening to collectors, but they're still interested in getting older vehicles out to people who are coming late to the party.

The guiding force here seems to be Hasbro's desire to keep the major hero vehicles in the mix.  And the people buying those pieces don't appear to be the core collecting crowd that's out here on the web day in, day out.  Hasbro is going by sales numbers when they come up with reissues like the Obi-Wan Kenobi starfighter which has now been a part of three seperate lines.

Here's my personal hope:  that the talk of a hyperdrive ring in the Q&A sessions was real, and perhaps the reason we're getting these reissues is to have something on the market that could mate with that hyperdrive ring.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: Jayson on March 1, 2007, 06:34 AM
Here's my personal hope:  that the talk of a hyperdrive ring in the Q&A sessions was real, and perhaps the reason we're getting these reissues is to have something on the market that could mate with that hyperdrive ring.

My hope as well. Hasbro could just produce a generic ring for use with all JSF then as a pack in, include the corresponding color decals to match up with the existing colors JSFs.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 1, 2007, 09:33 AM
Third packaging variation in three years. Yikes!
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: iFett on March 1, 2007, 10:41 AM
Forgive me for being colorblind, but isn't that the TRU version of Obi's ship or just the general release?
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: ruiner on March 1, 2007, 10:52 AM
General release.  Maroon and grey.

Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: CHEWIE on March 1, 2007, 11:34 AM
Yuck.  Easy pass for me.

Now what I'd like to see is a Jedi Starfighter in white, like this paint scheme -

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87271lg.jpg)

Perhaps I'll try painting one like that someday.  I just think it would look cool.

 :P
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 8, 2007, 10:54 PM
Is the AT AT coming back to TRU in 30 AC packaging?
Title: Re: New Assault Vehicles In '07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 8, 2007, 11:00 PM
I think the V-wing will be great, but I think the Infiltrator will be way undersized, and instead of the Evo Maul pack-in, we're gonna get some lame TPM Maul, or maybe no pack-in at all. :'(


But hopefully I'm wrong!

Well you hit that one right on the head, 8 months in advance.  Do you do Lotto numbers as well?



Well, I believe most of the Sith Infiltrator is unusable for a person. It is basically a TIE fighter with a loooong nose. I think they can fit that in that size box. Though it would be nice if it at least had a cargo bay to fit his speeder.


The infiltrator and the speederbike are just about the same size...   ;)
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 17, 2007, 12:14 PM
The Obi-Wan and Mace Starfighters hit target in So-Cal today.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: Brian on May 17, 2007, 12:17 PM
I actually saw those at our local store yesterday as well.  New spiffy packaging, same old ships :).
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: Brian on September 5, 2007, 12:53 PM
I was just thinking about this the other day, its kind of too bad that we don't see much (or more) of the OT ships available at retail.  Sure, we've seen a few ships - but they seem to either be TIE fighters or exclusives (often highly priced).  Now sure, most of us who want the OT ships probably already have them, but we were talking about what to get our nephews for Christmas this year when I started thinking about this.  They're both into Star Wars (especially the younger one), and really like the OT ships.  Its too bad there wouldn't be a way to slip some ships - like an X-Wing, Y-Wing, A-Wing, Snowspeeder, or Landspeeder into the mass retail "starfighter" assortment.  Granted, maybe the PT ships (Jedi Starfighters) do better at retail - and I know no one here wants to see that underscaled X-Wing (the non-FX sculpt version) again, but it would be nice to be able to pick up some ships like this for kiddos (or collectors) at retail and not pay $45 for them.  I also wouldn't mind seeing the Falcon hit again, but it would likely be an exclusive too.  Anyways, I'm sure I'm in the minority - and again, I'm not really speaking necessarily of collectors (although I'd go for the Skiff being re-released), but for kids.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 5, 2007, 06:42 PM
I think that there are several options for the "Starfighter" assortment as far as the OT goes.  The A-Wing is the easiest to fit into that assortment, as it was part of the 20 dollar price point, including a figure, back in 1997.  The upcoming release of the 30AC A-Wing Pilot would have been an excellent chance to get the ship back into circulation, sans figure, and do some line synergy at the same time. 

Theoretically, a new, properly-scaled Snowspeeder would fit in, as would a reissue of the Skiff.  I don't know why Hasbro has never reissued the Skiff, given its relative scarcity in both its releases (1980's and 1999), and the high prices on the secondary market.  I was hoping one would be on the way after they used a cardboard representation of the Skiff in the Battle Pack late last year, but that didn't happen either.

As much as I love the design, I'm tired of seeing the rainbow of Jedi Starfighters on the shelves.  They should just call it a day after the Mustafar and Utapau versions are released at mass retail next year.  I think they have milked the AOTC and ROTS JSF molds as much as they can at this point.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 6, 2007, 09:30 AM


As much as I love the design, I'm tired of seeing the rainbow of Jedi Starfighters on the shelves.  They should just call it a day after the Mustafar and Utapau versions are released at mass retail next year.  I think they have milked the AOTC and ROTS JSF molds as much as they can at this point.


I couln't agree more.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles In '07 - Speculation and Repacks
Post by: jedi_master_sal on September 6, 2007, 03:28 PM


As much as I love the design, I'm tired of seeing the rainbow of Jedi Starfighters on the shelves.  They should just call it a day after the Mustafar and Utapau versions are released at mass retail next year.  I think they have milked the AOTC and ROTS JSF molds as much as they can at this point.


I couln't agree more.

I third the sentiment. Other than the Hyperspace ring for Obi-wan's JSF ONLY, I do not want to see another JSF on the shelves again. These could be had rather easily for retail and on eBay at the time of their first release. Minor paint jobs just aren't going  to be enough for me to buy these over again.
Title: V-19 Torrent Fighter and Homing Spider Droid rumored for 2008?
Post by: Rune Haako on September 17, 2007, 05:55 PM
From Rebelscum (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2816270&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post2816298#2816270):

as always nothing is confirmed until you have the item in hand yourself.

but my info. is 99.9% on the money.

check my older threads etc......

I was given two names of the second 08 vehicle asst.

I will reveal one and hint at the other because im not 100% sure which one it is.

second wave of ships for 08 will include:

clone wars v-19
and
the seperatist army will be getting a new droid. I did not post what was told to me because I think the name was wrong.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on September 17, 2007, 06:56 PM
Very cool rumor.  And very likely since the line is focusing on Clone Wars next year.  Especially since the V-19 Torrent was featured in the new Clone Wars trailer that was unveiled at C4.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Reid on September 17, 2007, 09:56 PM
Can we get some new OT vehicles please? You'd think that with the Infiltrator, V-Wing, Grievous Fighter, and AT-PT, Hasbro would start to focus on the OT. Oh well.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on September 17, 2007, 11:25 PM
OT's good, but mostly I'd want resculpts on OT ships done to-scale before much new.  A CC would be neat but just not something I'd rather have than a properly scaled AT-ST, Snowspeeder, or other OT ship.  Guess I'm in the minority there though.

About the CW vehicles, I'm digging the thoughts of a Torrent Starfighter.  It's one I think I tried slipping a Q into the Q&A at one point.  Doable to-scale I think, and quite a neat design!

The droid I'm guessing is the Snail/Tank Droid at Kashyyyk.  At least that's my hope.  A nice piece of land armor for the separatists so they have SOMETHING to go against all the Clones.  A great piece I hope.  I'm of course hoping for to-scale on both, as neither is very large at all.

EDIT:

Or, according to Curto I guess it's a spider droid?  Tougher to make to-scale but it's mostly all legs, so it's doable.  I'm hopeful on that one.  Guess we'll see...  Cool regardless.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on September 18, 2007, 03:39 AM
Can we get some new OT vehicles please? You'd think that with the Infiltrator, V-Wing, Grievous Fighter, and AT-PT, Hasbro would start to focus on the OT. Oh well.

There's actually not a lot left to do with the OT.  At least as far as new vehicle sculpts go.  There really aren't any fighters that haven't been done from the OT.  The PT is much more fertile ground with a good number of vehicles that have yet to be done.

However, Hasbro did acknowledge in the Q&A process that they would like to revisit the sculpt for the Snowspeeder.  I'd definitely like to see a more accurate Snowspeeder as well as a more accurate AT-ST.  Perhaps in 2009?
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 18, 2007, 09:21 AM
Logical choices for the '08 rumors. I expect we'll see lots of PT, specifically CW product.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 19, 2007, 03:18 AM
I'd be all over an AT-ST resculpt.  8)
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on September 19, 2007, 10:24 AM
There's actually not a lot left to do with the OT. 

Maybe not a lot stuff left, but still a few things I'd like to see:

- Imperial Landing Craft (http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/imperiallandingcraft/index.html) (mini-shuttle)
- Lars Family Landspeeder (http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/v35landspeeder/index.html)
- new/old Cloud Car
- new/old Rebel Transport
- Jabba's Sail Barge
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: iFett on September 19, 2007, 11:13 AM
- Imperial Landing Craft (mini-shuttle) -I'd love to see this made..the LEGO version has me very jealous

- Lars Family Landspeeder -ICK!  I don't even remember this from the films, not even sure I'd want to buy one

- new/old Cloud Car - -no guns = boring to little boys and Hasbro for some reason

- new/old Rebel Transport -This was my very first SW vehicle growing up (Falcons were all sold out)  I'd love a rerelease with new deco + it's a storage case so you can't go wrong

- Jabba's Sail Barge -Ya...right....we can't even get a rerelease of the Skiff
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on September 19, 2007, 12:05 PM
There's actually not a lot left to do with the OT. 

Maybe not a lot stuff left, but still a few things I'd like to see:

- Imperial Landing Craft (http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/imperiallandingcraft/index.html) (mini-shuttle)
- Lars Family Landspeeder (http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/v35landspeeder/index.html)
- new/old Cloud Car
- new/old Rebel Transport
- Jabba's Sail Barge


I was talking mainly about the assault vehicles line.  I think that the Cloud Car is the only one that fits in that assortment.  As for the others?  They're for the most part very large vehicles except for the Lars Family speeder, which we only ever see in the Homestead garage (not counting that similar one in downtown Mos Eisley).
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2007, 02:33 PM
The two new OT vehicles I'd like the most are a Lars Family Speeder and the Rebel sleds from the hangars.  The Cloud Car is a close 3rd then, but really I guess I've always jsut figured I'd paint up a vintage one someday since they're quite inexpensive.  I can dig why anyone wants a new one though too.

I think in '08 with the CW line, that OT stuff is just gonna suffer though...

Snowspeeder and AT-ST are my most desired resculpts though on OT ships.  Both are grossly out of scale, and the AT-ST's sculpt just doesn't translate these days.  The Speeder's got the detail but not the right size. 
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 19, 2007, 03:02 PM
I am actually surprised that many people are not happy with the Snowspeeder. I have zero complaints on that vehicle. Having it smaller I find to be less desirable in many ways. I am happy with all 3 they have released and do not see the need for a redo.
I agree 100% the AT-ST is too dated, wrong scale and really needs a re-sculpt.

here are my top wants for the OT

1. AT-ST
2. Jabba's sail Barge
3. Hanger Bay Transport (Can pack the sled, ladders and fuel pipes to round it out)
4. Skiff Resculpt so it fits the right amount of dudes
5. Rebel Troop transport (old school sculpt with killer paint job)

Beasts
1. Jabba
2. Taun - Taun
3. Dewback
4. Rancor
5. Kryat Dragon
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on September 19, 2007, 04:09 PM
I think the most telling thing about the Snowspeeder has come from Hasbro in the Q&A process.  When Hasbro asked which of the original Kenner molds needed to be brought up to date they responded the Snowspeeder first, and the AT-ST second.  And understandably so.  The interior alone is pretty bare and doesn't measure up with the modern vehicles.  Plus it should be pretty cramped inside, but you'll notice the figures always flop around in the vintage ship as well as the modern re-releases.

In the case of the AT-ST, we've gotten a really good look inside the vehicle in ROTJ.  That vehicle should be able to hold the VOTC Chewbacca as well as 2 Ewoks, or two Imperial drivers.  So the crew cabin needs to be updated to accomodate that AND look a bit more accurate.  I think we'll get that at some point, but it has to be when the line is ready to support it.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 20, 2007, 09:45 AM
I am actually surprised that many people are not happy with the Snowspeeder. I have zero complaints on that vehicle. Having it smaller I find to be less desirable in many ways. I am happy with all 3 they have released and do not see the need for a redo.

I agree, but I do have one complaint, I'd like to see the seat moved forward.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: DoctorPadawan on October 21, 2007, 10:14 PM
So it appears after all the promises from Hasbro that the Obi-Wan/Anakin Utapau/Mustafar Jedi Starfighters would be unchanged from their original release, at least the Obi-Wan JSF is apparently going to be made more film accurate, with silver/gray in place of the original white plastic.

EE's listing for the ship (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87690)

While I'm not thrilled about spending another 20 dollars on this ship (especially after the endless nightmare of trying to get the correct label sheet for the 2005 TRU version), the film-accurate paintjob looks sharp and superior to the original TRU version.  I'll definitely be picking it up when it's released.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: I Am Sith on October 21, 2007, 10:30 PM
Between this year's Darth Vader Starfighter and this Obi-Wan, I don't know which one I like better.  While I wasn't thrilled earlier in the year to see them release a completely EU starfighter, again, they really did do a good job on the DV starfighter.  Looks like we can be prepared for the full rainbow of Jedi starfighters to hit in '08.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 22, 2007, 01:51 AM
I have no problem at all with this repainted Obi-Wan Kenobi Jedi Interceptor.  It's a far superior paintjob to the original.  Which begs the question of why was the original so messed up?

The rumor mill also has it that Hasbro is re-doing the green Anakin Jedi Interceptor as well.  And the original release on that suffered from the same inaccurate paintjob as the original Obi-Wan fighter.  It's good to see Hasbro making good on this at the very least.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 22, 2007, 09:11 AM
It's a nice coincidence that I never picked up an extra blue Obi-Wan fighter to open, so as far as I'm concerned, they made the right choice.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on October 29, 2007, 05:21 PM
I can't recall which site it was off hand (I think it might have been JTA), but in the recent Q and A, someone asked about the recent pic on EE of Obi-Wan's starfighter, and Hasbro didn't know where they got that from, and sounded like it would indeed be the original blue/white colors - the same as the initial release.  Personally, I really hope that isn't the case, I like the look of the recent EE pic much better, and I was looking forward to picking it up.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 30, 2007, 09:15 AM
EE is listing the Walker, Grevious' ship and Obi-wan's as '08 releases. Has anyone else confirmed that?
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2007, 09:28 AM
Hasbro has said all along that they most likey wouldn't get here until 2008.   

From the SDCC slides:  "we will continue with new in 2008"

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2007/Hasbro/Friday_Presentation/Slide36.JPG)

And then from the Q&A:

Will we ever see a re-release of the Toys R Us exclusive Anakin and Obi-Wan Jedi Starfighters with the blue & green color schemes? (JI, 07/20/07)

Yes, our plan is to bring this into the 85196 Starfighter Vehicle Assortment, for a national release, early in 2008.  


I think it was just wishful thinking that they would slip out early... and that may still happen depending on how fast things sell at Christmas.  ;)
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on December 1, 2007, 03:55 PM
I was at my local comic shop today and thumbed through the new edition of Diamond Previews.  In it was a green Anakin Skywalker Jedi starfighter.  And it was decoed very much like this one:

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87690lg.jpg)

So much for a straight reissue of the 2005 ROTS TRU exclusive fighters.

Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 2, 2007, 09:08 AM
What's different about that deco? Could it also be that they just tweaked another ship in Photoshop as to not photograph another fighter?
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: DoctorPadawan on December 2, 2007, 01:34 PM
What's different about that deco? Could it also be that they just tweaked another ship in Photoshop as to not photograph another fighter?

The photo Nick posted is pretty much the same one that EE had on their site a few weeks back (and which I mentioned on 10/21/2007 earlier in this thread) for the Obi-Wan JSF.  And, as Brian mentioned a few posts earlier, Hasbro said in a Q&A that the photograph was a mistake of some sort and that the ship that would be released would be identical to the 2005 TRU exclusive and *not* this (film accurate) repainted version.

For the record, the main difference in the two is that the original Utapau JSF was a brilliant white with blue accents and (as I complained about endlessly at the time) came with an incorrect sticker sheet (of Anakin's yellow JSF).  In the film (as in the Titanium 3" vehicle), Obi-Wan's JSF he took to Utapau was silver/gray with blue accents (as seen in the photo Nick posted and that I linked to on EE's site earlier in the thread).  I'm hoping that, regardless of which version they go with for the actual release, Hasbro sees fit to at least include the correct sticker sheet and not Anakin's yellow JSF sheet like the original release.

(For the record, Hasbro did eventually send out replacement corrected sticker sheets free of charge to most people who complained on their site, but that was also the beginning of the slightly-off-kilter sticker width/length on the astromech droid bodies that has sadly continued into the Mace and Vader JSF label sheets)

Most of the photos of Anakin's green JSF he takes to Mustafar are really poorly lit and the actual set prop (built full-scale) seems to differ from the CG model (just watch the Hopalong Artoo in the Droid Socket flub during the scene on Padme's veranda; as they said on Futurama: "You watched it, you can't unwatch it!").  Even the Chronicles: The Prequels book has no clear shot, CG or otherwise, of the actual Mustafar JSF, and if someone has a clear and well-lit photo of it, I'd appreciate seeing it for my own information. :)
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on December 2, 2007, 07:04 PM
Actually, this was Hasbro's response to JTA on this very subject:


JEDI TEMPLE ARCHIVES (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3519)

QUESTION:  You had indicated in a previous Q&A sessions that the re-released blue Obi-Wan Starfighter and the green Anakin Jedi Starfighter would have the same white paint applications as the original release.  This picture from Entertainment Earth (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87690lg.jpg)
seems to indicate that the paint apps have been updated to better reflect what we saw in the film and we like what we see.  Can you tell us if this new "grey" paint application is what we'll see on these re-released vehicles?

ANSWER:  Ok, this is an odd one.  We did not spec any changes to this vehicle, and have no record of a new paint master. Which means that the product that is shipping will most likely be the same one released before but in a new (closed) box. We do not know where the shot referenced came from. We'll dig into it some more...



Hasbro's response seemed to indicate that even they are confused about the situation.  If they're mistaken and we've got these fighters coming out in more accurate paint schemes, I'm that much happier.

Also, the photo I posted was the one from the EE product listing.  Previously EE had photoshopped the image of the Darth Vader Sith Starfighter, and they had posted as much in that product listing.  However the new product listing for the Obi-Wan fighter does not have any such disclaimer.  And neither does the product listing in the new edition of Diamond Previews that shows the green Anakin Skywalker Jedi starfighter.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on December 2, 2007, 09:15 PM
If anyone ever has a question about Entertainment Earth photoshopping stuff, let me know-- I make it a point to be up front about this and am happy to make sure that I can be as loud as possible regarding this sort of thing.

In the case of Obi-Wan's blue Starfighter and Anakin's green Starfighter, we used the images Hasbro sent us when we asked for pictures with no alterations.  (In this case, if Hasbro didn't send pictures, odds are I'd grab the TRU 2005 versions I have on my shelf at home and photograph them at the office.)   So this is indeed Hasbro's official photography, but I also have seen at least one official Hasbro picture of this ship with the incorrect yellow Anakin Starfighter labels.  So here's hoping that's going to be correct, too.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on December 2, 2007, 09:22 PM
Thanks Adam.  I didn't realize that you had the product listing up for the Anakin Skywalker green starfighter (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87691)


(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/HS87691lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 3, 2007, 09:16 AM
Thanks DocPadawan, Nick and Adam.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on December 3, 2007, 09:18 AM
I'm really hoping that Hasbro makes the movie accurate changes, because they look a lot better that way it seems.  But, as others have said, hopefully the stickers will at last be accurate.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 9, 2008, 01:42 PM
Well as it turns out, I picked up a Blue Obi-Wan JSF a while back and opened it up to find (a) it's the same ship as back in 2005 and (b) the incorrect sticker sheet.

I packed it all back up, retaped the box and returned it to the store.

If the white had been changed to a better looking light gray then I might have kept this ship, but since it was the exact same one I already have, I passed. I did get one to keep MIB for my TAC collection, but that was for the packaging.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 10, 2008, 09:55 AM
I have no doubt that you had to jump through hoops to get the correct sticker sheet for the ROTS TRU release.

I went through the same hassle trying to get Hasbro to send me two - since I bought two of them. They never sent me a second. I ended up using it on my opener, but I really wanted a sheet I could have left un-applied for my MIB one.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on March 10, 2008, 10:32 AM
I'm not sure if this has been covered before, but I'd personally like to see the TX-130 Saber class fighter tank made.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/tx130tank/
http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/tx130tank/img/eu_bg.jpg

It was in the Battlefront 2 game, IIRC. So it has some merit to be made as a toy. (Hey, if you can make a Rebel Vanguard figure...)

Not only that but there are three known color schemes to this that would work to Hasbro's favor since they are known for reissues with different paint jobs. First there is the one with red markings, then a more generic all grey one, then the more advanced one with blue markings.

This could fit at the least 3 clones, and possible up to 5 for a toy. So that means more figure sales as well. There isn't many "working" parts other than the turret and the "wings" to the side. Even there, Hasbro could cheap out and mold them in the attack position.

It's certainly something in the $20 price range which fits their business model for vehciles/ships.

What do you folks think?

-Sal
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 11, 2008, 12:56 PM
Seems like a really easy ship to make considering Hasbro already has a gi joe water moccasin.

(http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/84/watermoccasin/watermoccasin_iso.jpg)
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on March 11, 2008, 01:04 PM
I'm not sure if this has been covered before, but I'd personally like to see the TX-130 Saber class fighter tank made.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/tx130tank/
http://www.starwars.com/databank/vehicle/tx130tank/img/eu_bg.jpg

It was in the Battlefront 2 game, IIRC. So it has some merit to be made as a toy. (Hey, if you can make a Rebel Vanguard figure...)

Not only that but there are three known color schemes to this that would work to Hasbro's favor since they are known for reissues with different paint jobs. First there is the one with red markings, then a more generic all grey one, then the more advanced one with blue markings.

This could fit at the least 3 clones, and possible up to 5 for a toy. So that means more figure sales as well. There isn't many "working" parts other than the turret and the "wings" to the side. Even there, Hasbro could cheap out and mold them in the attack position.

It's certainly something in the $20 price range which fits their business model for vehciles/ships.

What do you folks think?

-Sal

I think it's a fantastic idea.  I've seen people request it once in a while, and I think this would go over very well... they could release two versions - one Republic, one Imperial, just with different paint schemes.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nathan on March 11, 2008, 08:26 PM
^Ditto.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 12, 2008, 09:11 AM
I already put down my approval in the Hey Hasbro section. Clone Wars is on of the few games I've actually played (which the tank was also in) and thought the tank was cool.
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on March 12, 2008, 10:10 AM
Thanks fellas. I'm glad this is getting some support here. I'm trying to push for this at other sites as well.

Considering the size relative to starfighters, plus is action oriented nature, plus it's overall great design and coolness factor, PLUS it's different paint decos, I'd think this would be a prime EU vehicle to be made.

I'm hoping this gets a nod in the cartoon (as has been eluded to since LEGO is supposedly making one and was inspired by the cartoon-or so the rumor goes), as that will help to bolster it's case for being made.

-Sal
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on March 12, 2008, 10:38 AM
Hasbro has already said in the Q&As (last Fall) that if the vehicle is in the new cartoon, they would definitely look at it...

Since the AAT has been rereleased with the mid-sized vehicles, will the similarly-sized TX-130 Saber-class tank - seen in the Star Wars: Clone Wars and Battlefront videogames - ever be made? The vehicle was even used for both Republic and Imperial troops in Battlefront II. (from SSG)

We have looked at the TX-130 and it is a cool vehicle, but right now would only go after it if it was featured in the upcoming Clone Wars animation.


So, there you go.  Just hope it's in the cartoon and I'm sure they will get to it eventually... ;)
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: ctonra on March 12, 2008, 12:55 PM
Isn't that how Hasbro kept answering questions about the AT-TE???

if it is in the cartoon we would look at doing it.
they could have just said no we are going to get around to doing it, or kids don't like playsets, blah blah blah
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on March 12, 2008, 02:10 PM
Hasbro has already said in the Q&As (last Fall) that if the vehicle is in the new cartoon, they would definitely look at it...

Since the AAT has been rereleased with the mid-sized vehicles, will the similarly-sized TX-130 Saber-class tank - seen in the Star Wars: Clone Wars and Battlefront videogames - ever be made? The vehicle was even used for both Republic and Imperial troops in Battlefront II. (from SSG)

We have looked at the TX-130 and it is a cool vehicle, but right now would only go after it if it was featured in the upcoming Clone Wars animation.


So, there you go.  Just hope it's in the cartoon and I'm sure they will get to it eventually... ;)

Cripes, I can't believe I forgot that question/answer. Man, I really hope the TX-130 is in the cartoon now. Especially since it's been on Hasbro's radar. (That's usually a good sign.)
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on March 12, 2008, 02:12 PM
Isn't that how Hasbro kept answering questions about the AT-TE???

if it is in the cartoon we would look at doing it.
they could have just said no we are going to get around to doing it, or kids don't like playsets, blah blah blah

You have a point too. And with the TX-130 rumored to be a LEGO set as well, I can't expect Hasbro would be too far behind with a 3 3/4 scaled toy for it. I'm crossing every appendage possible for luck that it's made!
Title: Re: Assault Vehicles - Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2008, 03:11 PM
If they really use this as a toy-selling platform, I wouldn't be shocked to see a LOT of designs "conveniently slipped in" just for the sake of selling a toy.  This tank included.  I'd buy it if it wasn't underscaled... 

I'd also dig an AT-XT from CW since that was the true pre-cursor to the AT-ST (not the AT-RT).