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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Clone Wars '08-'13 => Topic started by: Brian on July 25, 2008, 07:48 PM
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Hasbro's Presentation (http://www.rebelscum.com/SDCC08/hasbro/presentation/image67.asp) showed a new version of the Jedi Starfighter (from the CW series) is on the way in December (according to the date). It's Obi-Wan's version, but I'm sure we'll be seeing LOTS more of these over the next few years. I do like it though, and it looks like maybe it will hold a full astromech in there. I'm always down for any Kenobi ships, so I'm looking forward to it.
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Yeah, we will get every Jedi from the series with one of these repainted. It does look good.
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I like how it has a slot of an actual astromech droid.
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crap....getting sucked in to another of Hasbro's blackhole of money grabbing.
I'll prolly buy these. damn....
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I donno about this one. I think I can pass.
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I see that Hans's Hideout has posted a new image (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2008/09/new-images-of-upcoming-clone-wars.html) of this ship.
I was sort of on the fence on this ship, but I think I've convinced myself to buy at least Obi-Wan's and Anakin's (you know Anakin's deco is coming). The droid socket looks so much nicer in the center compared to the AotC version.
I wonder if it will fit in the Hyperspace Ring or not... ???
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I wonder that too now...
Love the droid socket. That alone will prompt me to buy the new JSF's... Very cool design. Hasbro knows how to milk me. :(
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Yeah, I have to admit that the droid socket is a nice gimmick. Might pick this one up myself.
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I also like the design of this starfighter a bit more than the AOTC model (kind of wish it would have been used in the movie as well). I've been thinking about dropping prequel vehicles (lack of space), or just cutting back, but like Jeff, I'll likely at least grab the Obi-Wan and Anakin versions of this starfighter - I always planned on picking up Obi-Wan's ships along the way. As far as inevitable repaints, I think I'll steer clear, unless the show really makes them appealing (although if Yoda has a starfighter, it might be tempting if cool).
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Personally, I think they should have started with this design. I'd would have been more consistent from a droid placement and features point of view. The astromech would have started in the middle then moved to the side with the pop-out solar panel feature, then transitioned to the EIII interceptor model.
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I like it. I'll buy it and the dozen repaints they'll make. Doesn't make much sense to have a cockpit window for the pilot though. :-\
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Doesn't make much sense to have a cockpit window for the pilot though. :-\
Ha! Great observation.
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I was just looking at the boxed pic (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/2008/TCWaatobifighter1.jpg) of this over at RS, and I noticed it says on front of the box "Fighter Seperates Into Two Vehicles!". Has anyone heard about this previously? I wonder how that will look/work? Maybe another mini-rig-ish type vehicle similar to the BMF Falcon's escape pod/mini-fighter.
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I noticed this too. It looks like the middle section removes and the back portion shape resembles the EIII model having a forked fuselage:
(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/delta2b.jpg)
I wonder if this feature will be in the animated series?
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Whoa....that's just trippy man. :D
At least Obi will be able to see where he's going now. He looks a bit pissed that he can't see, no?
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You know, the closer I look at this, the more it looks like I can pass on it. It's a bit skinnier than the original.
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This is out. Found it at Target, did not buy it though.
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Found it this morning at Target as well. Does anyone know if the Droid Tank Repaint is in the same case as this?
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I picked this up at Target this morning (it was the first time I'd actually seen it), and for the most part, I think it's a nice toy. It definitely has a very animated look to it, which is odd considering that Hasbro said they would be taking a realistic approach with the vehicles. That said, it is pretty much identical to the animation model, so in terms of accuracy, it gets an A. I haven't seen anyone do a really detailed review of this toy yet, so I'll run down some of the highlights and lowlights for those who are wondering what's in the box.
First of all, in comparison to the Delta-7A JSF mold that Hasbro has been using since 2002, this is a bit smaller, but not by much. Most of the size difference is in the wingspan, as the 7B is a bit more slender than the 7A. The 7A is just slightly (maybe half an inch) longer than the 7B, but the 7B is a bit thicker, especially near the engines/cockpit area. (Paging "Quote Your Fellow Posters Out of Context" thread!)
The action feature of separating into two ships works pretty well, with the rear section looking like a prototype of the ETA Interceptor JSFs. I should note, though, that the TIE Fighter cockpit window in front of the cockpit in this mode is NOT a transparent piece, and there are no opening solar panels on the wings either. It truly does look like a rough prototype for the ETA and, as a toy, it looks nice. The cockpit itself is rather huge and, while it fits the animated Obi-Wan figure well, a soft goods skirt piece would really help that, but that has nothing to do with this ship.
The front half (or as it is referred to on the packaging, the "drone ship") has spring out wings and a drop-down missle launcher (think the BMF hidden cannon on the bottom, but non-rotating). The interesting thing is that not only can the droid socket hold an astromech, it is also made so that a regular action figure can sit in the drone cockpit (the character's head will stick through the astromech slot, meaning it would have to be an atmospheric ship) if you wish. I tried several astromech droids (notably the R4-G9 mold and the R5 droid from the Y-Wing) in the slot and all worked really well, although the animated R2-D2 mold works best due to the shoulders not sticking up so far.
There are a couple of sore points, however. The first is that there is no R4-P17 figure at retail to put in the astromech socket. One of my key arguments with Hasbro is making ships with no corresponding pilots to go in them (or vice versa), and the fact that the packaging artwork features R4-P17 on it even though there is no figure available is kind of irritating to say the least. Also on this line of thinking, the instructions note that the fighter works with the Hyperdrive Ring (sold separately!) even though you can't get a Hyperspace ring separately, unless you live near a TRU and want to spring for the whole JSF assembly all over again. It's nice that Hasbro made it so that it would work with existing toys (and, for the record, it does work perfectly with the Hyperdrive ring from the Obi-Wan JSF), but to say something is sold separately when it is clearly not is disturbing.
I'd also like to note that the ship has no landing gear, which is kind of bothersome. The pull-down missle launcher on the front of the ship functions as the front landing gear and I realize that to include the type of landing gear from the 2002 JSF mold would have necessitated dropping the pull-down launcher from the toy completely, but the ship already has two launchers on the top, so the one on the underside is totally unnecessary and I would have rather had landing gear instead. Maybe that's just me, though.
All in all, ancillary griping aside, the toy works really well as a toy, looks like the animation model, and holds the associated figures well (even if said figures don't actually exist as yet). While I still like the 2002 mold better (excluding the stupid action feature on that mold), this one looks nice, is sturdy, and is worth picking up if you're a fan of the series. I just hope that Hasbro gets on the ball and puts out an R4-P17 and maybe offers individual Hyperdrive rings on their website or as a mailaway to go with it.
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Picked this up today at Target, but haven't had a chance to open it yet. I must say the the box is extremely light compared to the other "assault" vehicles so is this ship smaller or did Hasbro just cheap out on the plastic? Anyone care to post comparison pics of all three Jedi fighters? Please? :)
Gah...I'm lazy (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=17907.15) Please merge or delete or whatever.
Nice review DP!
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I hear its made out of the same stuff the Lars homestead base is. ;)
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Found it this morning at Target as well. Does anyone know if the Droid Tank Repaint is in the same case as this?
It is not.
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I saw one of these at our local Target this weekend, and my wife picked it up as a Christmas present - so I haven't had a chance to open it up and check it out yet. I'm thinking I might have to cut back or stop with prequel vehicles next year, but I've always wanted to pick up this ship. Obi-Wan is my favorite character in the prequels, and I sort of like to pick up his vehicles. Like I said, I haven't opened it yet, but kind of like the two ships aspect of this - sort of "mini rig" esque like the Falcon's escape pod/fighter, and that reminds me of the vintage days. Looks like its a pretty nice vehicle overall, and thanks for the nice review DoctorPadawan. I did notice that the box seemed really light as well. Now, how many repaints of this mold will we see? I don't know that I'd pick up any others aside from Plo Koon, and maybe Anakin (learned my lesson with the ROTS fighters a little on that), but that's more to the lack of space and budget than it being a poor looking ship.
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I picked this up at Target this morning (it was the first time I'd actually seen it), and for the most part, I think it's a nice toy. It definitely has a very animated look to it, which is odd considering that Hasbro said they would be taking a realistic approach with the vehicles. That said, it is pretty much identical to the animation model, so in terms of accuracy, it gets an A. I haven't seen anyone do a really detailed review of this toy yet, so I'll run down some of the highlights and lowlights for those who are wondering what's in the box.
First of all, in comparison to the Delta-7A JSF mold that Hasbro has been using since 2002, this is a bit smaller, but not by much. Most of the size difference is in the wingspan, as the 7B is a bit more slender than the 7A. The 7A is just slightly (maybe half an inch) longer than the 7B, but the 7B is a bit thicker, especially near the engines/cockpit area. (Paging "Quote Your Fellow Posters Out of Context" thread!)
The action feature of separating into two ships works pretty well, with the rear section looking like a prototype of the ETA Interceptor JSFs. I should note, though, that the TIE Fighter cockpit window in front of the cockpit in this mode is NOT a transparent piece, and there are no opening solar panels on the wings either. It truly does look like a rough prototype for the ETA and, as a toy, it looks nice. The cockpit itself is rather huge and, while it fits the animated Obi-Wan figure well, a soft goods skirt piece would really help that, but that has nothing to do with this ship.
The front half (or as it is referred to on the packaging, the "drone ship") has spring out wings and a drop-down missle launcher (think the BMF hidden cannon on the bottom, but non-rotating). The interesting thing is that not only can the droid socket hold an astromech, it is also made so that a regular action figure can sit in the drone cockpit (the character's head will stick through the astromech slot, meaning it would have to be an atmospheric ship) if you wish. I tried several astromech droids (notably the R4-G9 mold and the R5 droid from the Y-Wing) in the slot and all worked really well, although the animated R2-D2 mold works best due to the shoulders not sticking up so far.
There are a couple of sore points, however. The first is that there is no R4-P17 figure at retail to put in the astromech socket. One of my key arguments with Hasbro is making ships with no corresponding pilots to go in them (or vice versa), and the fact that the packaging artwork features R4-P17 on it even though there is no figure available is kind of irritating to say the least. Also on this line of thinking, the instructions note that the fighter works with the Hyperdrive Ring (sold separately!) even though you can't get a Hyperspace ring separately, unless you live near a TRU and want to spring for the whole JSF assembly all over again. It's nice that Hasbro made it so that it would work with existing toys (and, for the record, it does work perfectly with the Hyperdrive ring from the Obi-Wan JSF), but to say something is sold separately when it is clearly not is disturbing.
I'd also like to note that the ship has no landing gear, which is kind of bothersome. The pull-down missle launcher on the front of the ship functions as the front landing gear and I realize that to include the type of landing gear from the 2002 JSF mold would have necessitated dropping the pull-down launcher from the toy completely, but the ship already has two launchers on the top, so the one on the underside is totally unnecessary and I would have rather had landing gear instead. Maybe that's just me, though.
All in all, ancillary griping aside, the toy works really well as a toy, looks like the animation model, and holds the associated figures well (even if said figures don't actually exist as yet). While I still like the 2002 mold better (excluding the stupid action feature on that mold), this one looks nice, is sturdy, and is worth picking up if you're a fan of the series. I just hope that Hasbro gets on the ball and puts out an R4-P17 and maybe offers individual Hyperdrive rings on their website or as a mailaway to go with it.
If not having an an R4-P17 bothers you it should be noted that in the Clone Wars movie R2-D2 did inhabit the droid socket (apparently this is how he made it to the surface). Also the Jedi Starfighter with Hyperspace Ring is available and in stock at Toys R Us .com, for $24.45 with free shipping, about the price of a regular midsize vehicle in the store. I think the lower forward missle launcher was great idea, because it gives the forward section some firepower. This adds play value if your a kid and has to share his toy.
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Found it this morning at Target as well. Does anyone know if the Droid Tank Repaint is in the same case as this?
It is not.
I say this and then I read the people have found the Tank. However, I'm not convinced that they are in the same case yet as I have seen fresh cases withe two Delta2 fighters and no tanks.
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I picked up the tank the Saturday before last in Valencia. The stockboy in Wal-Mart was kind enough to open the case for me. There were no Obi-Wan CW Jedi Starfighters in there.
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Found it this morning at Target as well. Does anyone know if the Droid Tank Repaint is in the same case as this?
It is not.
I say this and then I read the people have found the Tank. However, I'm not convinced that they are in the same case yet as I have seen fresh cases withe two Delta2 fighters and no tanks.
That could just be a case of there being a couple of different case assortments.
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I saw a case last night that had the Delta and Tank in it at WM.
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That could just be a case of there being a couple of different case assortments.
Yes, there are actually a number of different cases that are all shipping at the moment...
Wave 2 Rev 2 = 1x AAT (blue), 1x V-19, 1x OWK Eta-2 (blue), 1x Grievous Starfighter, 1x Ani's Mod Starfighter
Wave 2 Rev 3 = 1x AAT (blue), 1x Spider, 1x V-Wing, 1x AT-AP, 1x OWK Eta-2 (blue)
Wave 3 = 1x OWK Delta 2, 1x AAT (Blue), 1x TIE, 1x Vader's TIE, 1x Ani's Mod Starfighter
Wave 3 Rev 1 = 1x OWK Delta 2, 1x OWK Eta-2 (blue), 1x Vader's TIE, 1x Grievous Starfighter, 1x Ani's Mod Starfighter
Wave 3 Rev 2 = 1x OWK Delta 2, 1x AAT (Blue), 1x TIE, 1x Spider, 1x V-Wing
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V-Wing? Really? I can't recall having seen a single V-Wing in CW packaging. I know that we're due to get the TRU exclusive one with a pilot, but not a version in the Starfighter vehicle assortment.
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V-Wing? Really? I can't recall having seen a single V-Wing in CW packaging.
It's out there... pic from HasbroToyShop:
(http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/Files_AltA/87886bc9d41_A400.jpg)
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I stand corrected. Odd though that Hasbro would offer this at the same time as the TRU exclusive model and the V-19 as well.
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I saw Obi's Delta 2 last night. Passed it up. It's looks okay. Guess I'm getting bored of the design though and just don't have the desire for this. Perhaps when it shows up in the show I might want it more, especially if the ship splits apart into two as it does for the toy.
Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this, but SW collecting has really started to wane for me. I'm still getting figures, but only go out to stores 1-2 times a week as opposed to my heyday of 5-6 a week. Online purchasing has helped this. But it's mostly about the quality/choice of product and the availability.
I really want MOVIE stuff FIRST. EU stuff, unless I recognize it, usually doesn't get purchased. It has to look really good before I'll buy it. Articulation does play a role in that as well. Obi's Delata 2 is okay, but does look more "animated" than any of the other Delta Jedi Starfighters.
Maybe I'm just getting to be "to old for this sort of thing"...lol.
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only go out to stores 1-2 times a week as opposed to my heyday of 5-6 a week
Wow, I only go 1-2 times a month lol and even then I dont buy as much as I used too lol.
In terms of the thread, the ship looks cool and all but considering all I do is display this stuff, new action features and such do nothing for me, besides I am running out of room and vehicles are out of the question.
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I saw this and the new AAT at Target yesterday. The AAT was certainly tempting, but I passed in favor of the Kenobi & 212th BP.
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I'd also like to note that the ship has no landing gear, which is kind of bothersome. The pull-down missle launcher on the front of the ship functions as the front landing gear and I realize that to include the type of landing gear from the 2002 JSF mold would have necessitated dropping the pull-down launcher from the toy completely, but the ship already has two launchers on the top, so the one on the underside is totally unnecessary and I would have rather had landing gear instead. Maybe that's just me, though.
Actually, it's pretty necessary-- Hasbro wants weapons on the ships for combat potential. Without the rocket on the bottom of the ship, the "Drone Ship" would be a completely unarmed drone. Hasbro put a firing rocket on the Episode I Royal Starship's yellow mini-craft for a similar reason, to give the toy some weapons even though the bigger ship didn't. OK, so it's a different reason. But they still crammed a rocket on there. In theory, it makes for a more fun toy, and I'd be inclined to agree.
I like the whole separate-the-ships thing WAY more than fall-off wing panels or pop-out wings. This is one of Hasbro's best vehicle toys in years if you ask me, they managed to cram a ton of neat stuff into a reasonably small toy-- and the empty droid socket is totally awesome to see for once.
And I may be the only one but I freaking LOVE this ship. The fact that the droid socket fits animated R2-D2 like a glove made me happy, but the fact I can sit pretty much any action figure in there makes me giddy. I mean, as a kid, who hasn't wanted a ship to put a couple of figures in? It's great that, if you want to, you can have a C-3PO sit in there and have his head poke out. While not 100% authentic, it lets kids play with the figures they already have in the drone ship rather than having to beg mom and dad to buy them R2-D2 or whatever recolor is on the market that week.
I dunno if I'm going to be all that thrilled about a fleet of repaints, but it's a fine ship-- I'll buy Anakin's at the very least.
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I dunno if I'm going to be all that thrilled about a fleet of repaints, but it's a fine ship-- I'll buy Anakin's at the very least.
I'm sure there will be a flood of them - so make some room. Fisto's ship with Ring totally hit me as an exclusive while watching the Lair of Grevious on my Video Cassette Recorder today.
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You're not the only one Adam - I think this is a great vehicle. I'm actually looking forward to Anakin's version.
I'm also pretty sure we're going to get a Kit Fisto and/or Plo Koon version.
I wonder how long before they let Ashoka have one too.
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I'm loving my Delta 2 but I agree with the above that the lack of landing gear is "annoying" to me. I felt that way about the old JSF's actually, as that's a touch of realism I'd like to have on an otherwise fantastic detailed vehicle.
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I'm getting one of these for Christmas from the Mrs., so I haven't gotten a chance to see it in person aside from the box, but I'm really looking forward to it. I've always been a fan of the various incarnations of the Jedi Starfighters (movies and toy form), and I think the fact that this has a mini-rig-ish seperate fighter is kind of cool too. I didn't realize that about the landing gear, so that's sort of a bummer.
I have to admit I started getting sucked into the various repaints of the ROTS version, so I want to try to avoid that again, but I wouldn't mind getting Anakin, Kit, and Plo if/when they are made. Its nice to have Anakin along side Obi-Wan's ride, and Kit/Plo have always been my favorite "background" Jedi of the PT. I'm wondering if we'll see Yoda get his own starfighter at some point in the Clone Wars toon.
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I have to admit I started getting sucked into the various repaints of the ROTS version, so I want to try to avoid that again, but I wouldn't mind getting Anakin, Kit, and Plo if/when they are made. Its nice to have Anakin along side Obi-Wan's ride, and Kit/Plo have always been my favorite "background" Jedi of the PT. I'm wondering if we'll see Yoda get his own starfighter at some point in the Clone Wars toon.
I'll probably spend for the repaints if we get the matching astromechs. The hyperspace rings, I can do without. But if they come with their companion droids? That's an easy sale.
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Has Hasbro given any indication as to how long we're going to have to wait before we get an animated version of Obi-Wan's R4?
It's kind of annoying to me that we've got this ship with the socket that actually fits an astromech, but no astromech to put in it!
I might have to give the ship to the Legacy Collection Clone Wars Obi-Wan and dig out the R4-P17 figure from the ROTS line.
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I got one of these from the Mrs. for Christmas, and I have to say it might be one of my favorite vehicles of the modern line. I'm usually more of an OT person, and have been trying to cut back on PT vehicles, but I always like to get the Obi-Wan related ones - and this is my favorite one yet. The "split in two" play feature works very well I think, and it not only looks nice, but is a great toy as well. Nice vehicle overall I thought.