I'm confused, are you talking about USCwannabe telling people off on the radio show or Philip doing so on his forums with regularity?      The whole get a life quote is seemingly so popular in the Star Wars world. 

Very true.

I'm referring to USC's blog entries on the StarWarsblogs (which I saw and which were reposted to Rebelscum before being deleted by StarWars.com) where people were asking "who he was" and "why is he not on the forums?".  He basically flipped out about it.

Yes, I've seen Philip flip out too.  Most recently over the whole Dustin thing.



Personally...I join everyone in wondering why the heck USC was Disqualified.  I just don't share the conspiracy theory that somehow Philip Wise is behind it.  Might as well blame Brians Toys, Scalpers, army builders or some other collector scapegoat icon.

With how much influence and innuendo peddled by the RS presidential camp?

I never said Philip didn't help Dustin get elected.  Rebelscum pimped Dustin every day like a 2 dollar hooker.   I guess the big difference between me and the people complaining is I don't see how that's a crime.  The site he's worked at for years backed his campaign.  No big shocker there.

Where'd the rumors about USC come from?  Smear campaign or truth?

As far as I saw, they came from people on various Star Wars forums who simply posted links directly to things USC wrote (and that he later admitted he wrote on those radio interviews).   No conspiracy there, but I know when I read that stuff....I didn't particularly care much for the guy.   I wondered after listening to him how he got so many people to vote for him.  The only 2 explanations that seemed reasonable were he was buying votes himself, or people who were sick of the Dustin campaign were throwing votes his way.

All that bitching prior to the contest deadline about everything and suddenly the "good guys" win? 

The fact that Philip and Dave bitched about Dustin not being ahead seemed like a brief bit of honesty from those guys.  I've rarely seen the staff over there (save a few moderators) speak their minds blatantly like that, so when they bitched about Dustin being behind, I thought it was funny.  Then again.....I also thought at that point it was lame, because they were preaching "this is all for fun" in one sentence and "This is crap" with the next.


Again...that's not conspiracy, that's just a few guys being up front about how they're pissed they're not winning.  Scroll page to the first few pages of this thread.  Lots of honesty there too. 

Riiiiiiiiight.  Got any bridges to sell Josh?

I don't see how I'm trying to sell anything.  I'm simply saying I don't buy into the whole "Philip is the mastermind behind this whole thing" theory.   If he somehow bent the will of StarWars.com and got them to reverse some public and obvious "election" results, then that guy has clout like I never knew about.

However, the whole "occams razor" thing says the easiest solution is probably the solution.  I'd wager StarWarsShop DQ'd the other guy because of something he said, or something he did.

I'd love to know what that was.

But for the record, yes....if Dustin and Philip somehow blackmailed StarWars.com and Lucasfilm into reversing an election, and somehow that gets discovered.....I will join everyone in being completely floored.

I will admit to thinking that RS would totally buy 100 subscriptions in the zero hour to make sure Dustin won (then I thought they might give them away or something, contest stylie).....but that didn't seem to be the case. The vote ended with a pretty big gap between the two.

I think the DQ of the mysterious "USCwannabe" probably happened at StarWars.com's request, not because of any "superclout" Phil or any of the Rebelscum guys exerted.

Yes....they assisted Dustin in his campaign big time, but do you really think that Philip made some phone call and said "our boy wins or else"?  I know you guys really hate him, but do you really think he's this Emperor like figure that can demand his man gets elected, "Or else"?

I just can't make the guy out to be that evil.  Or that powerful.  And if by some reason he IS one, the other, or both....I can't see the fan club being bullied into bending to that demand.  It's all too cartoonish and far fetched IMHO.


Perhaps USC's comments in blogs that were reposted everywhere got him DQed.  The stuff I saw was pretty harsh, and if he really wrote that....do they really want him as a spokesman? Even a figurehead?

Perhaps those massive magazine sales of his WERE somehow not quite on the level.  The pace was staggering, especially when you almost never saw people say "I voted for USC".


Perhaps he didn't meet some superset of requirements they had after the fact.  Maybe it turns out he was the wrong age, or had some other background issue.

Or, maybe it's one of the conspiracy theories:

Perhaps someone's theory about him not being a real dude (and just a way to goose the leader along, like a shill bidder on Ebay) was true.    Maybe they just kept us in suspense because Comic Con is next week and that was the plan all along.  To unveil Dustin, the hero to many....at the zero hour.

Perhaps someone at RS DID buy up 100 memberships at 40 bucks a pop that night at midnight, though spending 4 grand just so Dustin could win less than half that in prizes seems excessive to me.  Plus, wouldn't we have seen it in the tally?


Any way you slice it.....I think any shadyness about this whole thing is the fault of StarWars.com and the fan club, not Rebelscum.   Call me an apologist or whatever, but other than spamming the hell out of the front page.....I never saw Dustin do anything shady during the contest, so I can't really see him resorting to some sort of evil deeds afterwards.  What could he REALLY do?  Threaten to take some links off RS?   Would StarWars.com really "bow" to that?

Maybe I don't know the guy, but I just can't see this being some huge scam perpetrated so he could win a trip to a convention he was already going to.  It just doesn't make sense.


Then again, stranger things have happened and I've been wrong a million times before.

I was away from my PCs all day today, so I guess I missed the fireworks. I still don't understand why everyone is so upset.  Did anyone save the thread?

I mean....did someone say that Dustin cheated or something?  It seemed to me like he ran a huge campaign and I never expected him to lose.  Even when he was behind in votes, I expected him to pull through in the 11th hour with whatever he needed to get over the top.  When the results were never announced, I figured they were just waiting to spring the news at the con.


  The only question mark for me was how did the StarWars.com disqualify the other guy?

Was that ever answered in the thread, or was the whole thing just a flamefest until it got locked and deleted? Sucks I missed it all.

Was just coming over here to make sure you guys knew about it. Man, that's one hell of a piece. I had to get it.  I always wished for them to do a color version.

What, are you new? 

War and Politcal threads have been banned there for years, Just like they are here, and on most Star Wars boards.

There is nothing MisterK could do to get back into people's good graces shy of spend the next year acting like the opposite of an *******.

That may be true. I was just pointing out I think the desire might be there.  The fact that he constantly reads this site means to me that he is interested in how the folks over here view him.  Maybe he does want to cool down?  Who knows?

As for the comments in the gay thread, I didn't buy them either, but he says he's being genuine.