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Title: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 19, 2003, 11:05 PM
Well, the war in Iraq has begun, apparently, as a Surgical Strike occured about an hour and a half ago. I've heard that there was an Air-to-Ground attack on the "Leadership of Iraq", via Stealth Bomber.
This could mean many things, but I'm assuming that there was an attack on the acting Generals and Saddam's Lieutenants. My dad thinks that this was an attack on Saddam's palace, a direct thrust at him from the get-go... Thoughts on this, and the war in general?
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Scott on March 20, 2003, 12:10 AM
Man I hope they got that Bastard...it would make the whole thing much more palatable...if not it might be a long couple of weeks being on edge

The thing I am most scared of is another terrorist strike here.  We are tons more prepared but something biological could sweep the Globe in no time...

Me and my buddies always said if there were ever a nuclear attack that we would drive to ground zero and be the first to go because who would want to survive and then now that the end was near.  I think the same goes for a biological attack, give me a needle full of the stuff so I can go quick...

I realize that is morbid but for some reason I never have really shaken this lifelong fear of the human race being wiped out by war...maybe I need some counseling   :-\
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Jango Fettish on March 20, 2003, 12:17 AM
Well, as my girlfriend was saying, we are pretty strategically placed, (bodies of water/air control).
When you have that, and all your military expertise, i.e.
anti aircraft, Coast Guard, marines, etc, I think we have all our bases covered.

Of course, that doesn't help us for the enemies on the inside.

Anyway, something else I found interesting is that at the same time we're bombing Iraq, there have been squads of 1,000 soldiers raiding villages, doing random searches for Osama bin Laden, but of course, not in Iraq.
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: JediMAC on March 20, 2003, 01:59 PM
How cool would that have been if we took out Saddam in that initial strike, and the rest of the Iraqis threw in the towel as a result?  A 2 hour war, and we head off to North Korea for round 3...   ;)
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on March 20, 2003, 02:57 PM
While wish it didn't have to come to war, I would hope the efforts to capture/detain/kill sadam are succesful so as to not waste the efforts of our military. Then we must help iraq rebuild itself but we must take into account what the citizens want. It's not our country and we can't force our views on them, eventhough we're forcing our mility on them.
I just hope it ends soon and that no unnecesary casualties result from it. ???
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: JediMAC on March 20, 2003, 04:03 PM
Very true CloneF37JD82GW295 (sorry, that name confuses the hell outta me! ;))

What I'm trying to say, is "Well said."
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 20, 2003, 09:39 PM
Reports suggest that an American Transport Helicopter has crashed, killing at most 16 Amer. and possibly Brit. troopers. It crashed because of "mechanical failure", so once again we learn the hard way that helicopters have a hell of a time in the desert.  >:(  Meanwhile, we press onward.
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: JediMAC on March 20, 2003, 09:46 PM
That SUCKS.  :'(

I wonder if it was really mechanical failure or if the "bad guys" finally hit their first target...   ???
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Jango Fettish on March 20, 2003, 09:51 PM
Crap. Third copter down in 2 days so it seems. I'll hope for the best.

On a lighter note, the ground troops have JUST confirmed the ground attack has begun on the North, South, and West sides.

That means, the circle is closing in. The even sweeter part is that all this is in an attempt to soften things up for the other crew that hasn't even arrived on the scene, those people..being the United States Army.  8) ;)
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: JediMAC on March 21, 2003, 06:31 PM
Well, the downed chopper only had 12 on board, which is a little better, but still horrible.  We did finally suffer our first two combat casualties today though...   :'(

Studs:
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/world/0303/gallery.iraq.war.0321/warfare/01.ap.jpg)

Oh boy, that's gonna leave a mark...
(http://a799.g.akamai.net/3/799/388/457de5749ff5ca/www.msnbc.com/news/1832927.jpg)

No mas!
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/world/0303/gallery.iraq.war.0321/warfare/07.ap.jpg)

See ya'!
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2003/images/03/21/top.marine.saddam.poster.ap.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on March 21, 2003, 06:51 PM
What they should have done in the first place.
Surrender!
(http://www.msnbc.com/c/0/144/401/inline/030321_iraqssupdate_04.jpg)

So far, so good.
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Reconsgt on March 21, 2003, 07:22 PM
I remeber when we trained in desert conditions when I was in the 101st and then again in Africa. The sand really beatup the choppers. You have to repair the rotor blades every day to some degree.

Sorry to hear about any losses. :(  Hopefully they will be few.



 I am unable to see the TV or hear anything new. Have they hit again since noon? Last I heard B52s were airborne and the palaces were leveled.
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on March 21, 2003, 07:37 PM
Go to http://www.cnn.com (http://www.cnn.com) & http://www.msn.com/ (http://www.msn.com/)
At least you can keep somewhat up to date.  
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 21, 2003, 11:55 PM
I was watching Iraqi civilians responding to Infantry guys in a town, man were they happy... shaking hands, hugging, kissing, dancing, thumping Saddam posters with their shoes, it just made me feel better about us being there. I don't disagree with it in the first place, but seeing that gave me added comfort.

Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on March 22, 2003, 11:18 PM
Oh My.

(http://www.msnbc.com/c/0/144/706/inline/030322_iraqupdate_03.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Reconsgt on March 22, 2003, 11:31 PM
Great sorrow and shock at what I heard. It seems that one of our own may have been behind the grenade attack on the 101st. Many of you that know me know I started my military career with in the 101st. I was in the 1st battalion of the 327th infantry. This attack was on the 2nd of the 327th. Reports said the CO was in the tent that was the target but he was injured but still adressing his troops. They have the suspect in custody. Sad indeed  :'(

 
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 22, 2003, 11:51 PM
Apparently the suspect was part of the Engineers, so he wasn't an Airborne (I suspected he was not from the get-go)... Also as I expected, the guy is a convert-muslim...
What I would have never expected was that anyone could survive four hand grenades thrown into a tent... but luckily (so-far) nobody was killed (I think).

This guy should be executed immediately. No trial.
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 23, 2003, 11:18 AM
Update -
Regarding the frag attack, one soldier has died, several others are listed as serious condition.
The news is now stating that this guy was disgruntal, or something to that effect, but I still bet it was a muslim thing. Either way, throwing 4 hand grenades into a tent of your country-men is no way to take out frustrations

In other news, reports are saying that an Brit 2-man Jet was shot down on accident by an American missile. No word on possible survivors
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on March 23, 2003, 12:23 PM
Not good! Hard days ahead.

Pentagon: Group of U.S. soldiers killed or captured.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A group of fewer than 10 U.S. soldiers have been captured or killed by Iraqi military forces, Pentagon officials said Sunday.

The soldiers, attached to a maintenance unit in south-central Iraq, went astray and were confronted by Iraqi military, officials said.

Some U.S. soldiers were killed, and others were being held as prisoners of war, officials said.

Iraqi television filmed interviews Sunday with what it said were American soldiers captured in southern Iraq.

The Arabic language, Qatar-based news network Al-Jazeera broadcast a tape Sunday of what appear to be U.S. soldiers identifying themselves and their place of origin. At least two of the soldiers interviewed appeared to be wounded; one of the wounded was a woman.

Richard Myers, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, called the soldiers' appearance a violation of the Geneva Convention.

"This is just one more crime by the Iraqi regime," a grim-faced Myers told reporters at the Pentagon shortly after the capture had been confirmed.

The news came as coalition ground forces faced pockets of strong resistance as they drove Sunday through the Iraqi desert toward Baghdad and other strategic targets.

U.S. Marines encountered heavy resistance and have suffered casualties Sunday in fighting near the southeastern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah.

Marines entered the city after Iraqi forces ambushed a U.S. military convoy bringing supplies to coalition forces in the region, according to CNN's Alessio Vinci, who is with the Marines





Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: Reconsgt on March 23, 2003, 01:12 PM
There are reports that some prisoners were exicuted. Very troubling indeed. I find it sicking to listen to that. As a soldier you assume the risks of combat injuries and fatalities, but given the laws of land warfare and Geneva convention(which Saddam said he would follow) you don't expect this type of treatment.

 I hope that the was moves into a higher gear and they get those POWs home. This looks to be going into a very bad situation, lets hope no more fighting men and women fall into Iraqi hands.

 Also new reports are being made confirming Iraqi and russian arms deals and also French deals in the recent past. The reports show that Russia has sold info to Iran allowing them to build a neuclear reactor capable of producing weapons grade components. Lets all hope that doesn't turn out that way.


Dale are they showing the AL Jazzera footage in Canada? Even the footage is a Geneva violation.
 
Title: Re: The "Iraq" Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on March 23, 2003, 01:25 PM
I watched CCN right after I posted. They showed footage of the slain members. A still photo to be exact. CNN covered there faces in respect. They said some were shot once in the forhead. I have not seen any other footage thus far on the POW's. CNN will not show the footage.

There is aslo a report that a plane has been shot down & the pilot's ejected & landed in the river. Not sure if it is US or UK. Unconfirmed as of yet.