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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: February 14, 2013, 12:24 AM »
Not once did I mention discount chains, clearance prices, etc.  Learn to read.  I said RETAIL price.  Duh.

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: February 13, 2013, 11:40 PM »
Considering that 3.75" VC figures go for $10 a pop (retail price), it's absurd to entertain the idea that 6" figures will be sold at $10 retail.  And what are 6" Marvel figures retailing at?  That's like saying, "Hey, a 2013 VW Jetta starts at $16,000, which seems too much for me.  How many people would buy one for $8000?"  Well, duh.         

After seeing the TF pics, I'm pretty much all in with the 6" line, starting with Luke, R2 and Sandtrooper.           

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Star Wars Universe / Re: Star Wars Movie Spin-Offs?
« on: February 6, 2013, 01:17 AM »
Personally, I think it's a terrible idea.  But hey, in the grand scheme of things, individual character spinoff films can't bastardize the original trilogy any worse than the prequels or animated Clone Wars series already did, right?  Leia's Adventures on Alderaan, coming to a theater near you.

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What constitutes the "wow factor" 3000 figures into the line? What can they give us that we haven't seen before?


How about an 8D8/EV-9D9 two pack with pull-apart tortured droid and torture mechanism? Or how about some Build-A-Droid sets of 2 or 3 with interchangable parts? Or a 3.75" scaled Krayt Dragon or Dagobah Dragon Snake?  Figures like the Tonnika Sisters, Velken Tezeri, Toryn Farr, or heck at this point, even a figure of Jamie Farr would be very much welcomed...anything but the same old regurgitated crap like another Anakin, another Clone Trooper, another Obi-Wan.  Those are the type of items that would fulfill my personal "wow factor" requirements at this point in time.         

I'd also like to see a return of "ultra" or "deluxe" figures packaged with diorama pieces.  Larger accessories such as the Tractor Beam panel thingy from ANH, or the War Room console from ROTJ before the Battle of Endor, or a Funeral Pyre for Vader.  Hasbro just needs to excercise some inspired creativity with the 3.75" line.  It might be asking for too much, but how about some frickin' playsets for the "3000 figures into the line?"   


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With regards to the Black Series 3.75" line, I think that if the selection lacks any type of wow factor, and if Hasbro pumps out the same old uninspired crap (ie another Clone Trooper, another Anakin, another Obi-Wan, etc), they should just pull the plug on the entire 3.75" line.     

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: February 1, 2013, 04:57 PM »
Angry?  Me?  Never....

It's very naive to completely dismiss or discount the idea that maybe, just maybe, Disney was the major impetus in having a 6" line of Star Wars realized.  Perhaps Hasbro had been considering it, pondering, thinking, but it makes sense that ultimately, Disney was the driving force that made it happen.   

Does it matter what company was involved?  Uh, yeah.  The decision marks what I believe to be a pivotal point, a bold move which speaks volumes about what is in store for the future.  It's a taste of things to come, something fresh and new, which doesn't seem to have any telltale signs of a decision that would come from the big H.       

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: February 1, 2013, 01:55 PM »
I know there's speculation it's all Disney, but I'm pretty certain it's not, and they've had zip to do with this.

Yeah, Hasbro had zilch to do with this decision...the 6" line is something they have wanted for a long time.  Oh wait...

From November 3rd, 2006:

ActionFigs.com: With Hasbro now producing 6" super articulated Marvel figures, could we eventually see a special line with 6" super articulated Star Wars figures?

Hasbro: We have no plans for this type of figure line. As the heart and soul of the Star Wars collecting world, we are focused on making sure our 3-3/4" line is vibrant, fresh, and exciting first and foremost, along with providing continued newness for our other play patterns (Star Wars Transformers, Unleashed 2", and Galactic Heroes).
 
From December 7th, 2007:
 
JediInsider.com: There seems to be a decent amount of interest from collectors for 6" Marvel Legends style Star Wars figures. What are the chances we might see a line like that in the future?
 
Hasbro: We will not be producing a line like this for Star Wars. When we have tried other collector-targeted scales (like 7" Unleashed) we found that fan interest, when compared to the 3-3/4" system, is just not as strong. In addition, for kids, the 3-3/4" scale is also the best one for a wide-range of figures and vehicles that play together, which is critical to the Star Wars fantasy. Rather than spread too thin against collectors, we will be focusing our efforts against making sure the 3-3/4" is broad, as we have been for the past couple of years. We should note that the other sublines - Galactic Heroes, Star Wars Transformers, and Unelashed 2", have a very strong following among kids and we will continue these going forward as well.

So you're right, Disney had absolutely nothing to do with this decision to launch a 6" line and Hasbro was completely blindsided by the 4 billion dollar Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm, which happened overnight.  Makes perfect sense.   

 

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: February 1, 2013, 01:47 PM »
Finalized 6 weeks ago, in the works for 18 months.

Exactly. 

Sorry to burst your bubble there guys, but you don't iron out a $4 billion deal over 6 weeks.  How can anyone honestly believe Hasbro had absolutely no idea this was coming?!  A big part of what makes this such a lucrative deal for Disney are the licensing rights.  A 6" line would certainly yield much higher profits for Disney & Hasbro, so I'm sure it was mentioned as something that was desirable during the course of working out the deal, as was the idea of creating a sequel trilogy.     

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: A 6" Exclusive for SDCC 2013?
« on: January 31, 2013, 05:07 PM »
I'm hoping it's a 2-pack: BBQ Beru & Owen!  Yes, finally!  Woo hoo! 

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 30, 2013, 03:34 PM »
I think the reasoning is that Hasbro seems to want to shift collector focus to this larger scale line despite most collectors having sunk thousands of dollars into the 3.75" line and having no space nor desire for a new scale.

I think that with this move into the 6" figure line Hasbro might be trying to tap into a broader adult toy collector market, and not necessarily just Star Wars fans. 

Is it that these types of figures are not profitable or just not as profitable as Hasbro desires?

Let's keep in mind the one BIG variable in all of this: Disney.  Maybe it's a little premature, but I hold Disney, not Hasbro, responsible for all of these changes (ie 6" line, postponement of the 3D prequels, cancellation of Droid Factory).  Since Disney entered the picture, we have seen a lot of change.  Coincidence?   

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 30, 2013, 01:50 AM »
I think the decision to go with a 6" line for Star Wars is a bold move, one that seems directly influenced by Disney.  I can't wait to see what else they have in store for us.  Hurry up Toy Fair and get here already...   

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 29, 2013, 08:47 PM »
At $20 a pop, I'm still on board, but will be ultra-picky about my purchases.  That said, R2 is a no brainer for me, and I'm sure they'll make 3PO in a later wave.  I'd be really interested in Bespin Luke, Jedi Luke, Boba Fett, Vader, Yoda, and any ESB bounty hunter.

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 28, 2013, 11:52 PM »
A retail price point of no higher than $15 would be ideal for me. 

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 28, 2013, 08:41 PM »
I think it is valid...  I've devoted my shelving space to 3.75" figures.  Not 3.75" and now a set of 6" ones.

I'd probably buy Bossk...  Not sure on RFT or Tarkin, but I'd buy Bossk for my Bossk focus and call it a day on any 6" figure "collection", per se.

And see, that's the beauty of it.  Everyone will have a choice to pick & choose what they want from the 6" line.  I'm sure Hasbro won't force anyone to buy the entire line.  So if a collector has space issues, they can choose to only buy a few.  Or none.  Unless a collector lives in a cardboard box where space is ultra-limited, I'm sure collectors can manage to find enough room for at least a few 6" figs.     

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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 28, 2013, 07:53 PM »
I think the comments around "starting over" are based on building another lineup of duplicate characters from scratch.

Building a lineup of duplicate characters?  Interesting....

Given that collectors have like a dozen figures of Vader on their shelves, alongside a dozen figures of R2 and Chewie, etc., I hardly think purchasing duplicate characters is a valid concern.

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Even if they stick to core characters, you're essentially starting over with Luke, Han, Leia, Darth, etc.  Most of us just don't have the space to go that route en masse without displacing some of your existing collection.

If they were announcing a 60" line of figures, I could understand.  But a small 6" collection of core characters?  Collectors find room for their grand clone armies and such, and yet, those same collectors are going to be concerned about making room for a single shelf of 6" figures?  Another invalid concern.       

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