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Title: The Other Half and Your Collection
Post by: Morgbug on May 27, 2003, 11:20 AM
Alright, how many of you "sneak" toys into your house or perhaps just stealthily slide a new figure onto the shelf or into storage?  Does your significant other have a clue as to either the volume or the dollar value (what you spend)?  

If you're not married and living with your parents, do you sneak stuff past them (much more risky to me than doing same with spouse)?
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: JediMAC on May 27, 2003, 11:41 AM
Yep, all the time.  I don't think Patty has a clue on the total amount I've spent on SW (though she could probably fashion a guess)...  I'll usually show her any brand new figures that I find, since she's usually hunting for them herself, and is surprisingly genuinely excited to see new stuff for the first time.  But when it comes to extras/multiples of figures and ships, or just miscellaneous stuff, I'll try to sneak it in and "blend" it into the collection without her knowing (most of which is boxed up anyways).

Hiding that Master Replicas Anakin FX lightsaber from her didn't work out too well though.  I told her it was just a cheap commemorative baseball bat, but she wound up reading the shipping label on the box, when she finally found it stashed behind a table...   :'(
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: dustrho on May 27, 2003, 11:49 AM
This is a very interesting topic!   ;)

I wish I could sneak things in here, but unfortunately my wife would know exactly what is being spent on what because she's a VP of a huge bank here.  She handles all the financial responsibilities here.  So, that means I have no way in acquiring new Star Wars items without her knowing about it.  She questions EVERYTHING that is charged to the credit cards and debit card.  But I really shouldn't complain too much, because she does let me buy just about anything I want (within reason, of course).

Now my good buddy, Jeff (who goes by darthberger here but hasn't posted one message yet  >:(), sneaks things in all the time by his wife.  He did, however, get busted this weekend about it.  He always has his ebay winnings mailed to his work address, and then he brings a little bit here & there home with him.  Well, he brought too much stuff home at once and she noticed his shelves were a lot more full than normal.  He totally got chewed out big time!  I felt sorry for him.
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Darth Broem on May 27, 2003, 11:57 AM
I'm engaged.  So, almost married.  I'm not really supposed to be spending much on Star Wars.  The retailers around my area are helping me since they don't get much of anything anymore.  However, when I do get something SW related I don't tell the fiance.  I just put it away.  So, I guess I'm sneeking around a bit.  HOwever, if we are in a store together I do tell her I'm going to look in the Star Wars aisle.  She does not really seem to mind.  I don't think she would care unless I was buying tons of Star Wars stuff all the time.  
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: DSJ™ on May 27, 2003, 12:28 PM
I am not married but I am Common-Law so I guess you can say I'm sorta married. I try to hide the toys that I buy but when I get them at a store or in the mail, I just have to show them off.
When I got that DT Luke, & showed her, she said thats very nice. Then I told her how much I paid for it. Her reaction,   :o   ::)

Priceless.  ;D

Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Scott on May 27, 2003, 12:35 PM
I am a sort of sneaker but not really.  She sees all of the packages that I get and sometimes she is none too happy.  I seriously am running out of room already in my new place and I really can't start any new collections besides continuing the 3 3/4" stuff and some of the other lines I do collect.

I rarely buy much at retail anymore though so that may be part of the problem and she doesn't realize how much I used to buy.  

We just talked about this though this weekend, she basically has resigned herself to the fact that if she wants something she will buy it...and I am OK with that :-*
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Morgbug on May 27, 2003, 01:20 PM
what you are about to read will be denied at any and all opportunities, should the good Mrs. Bug wander into the room.  

Remember that thread about all the junk/toys in my office?  Well, like dustrho's buddy, I get all my stuff delivered to work.  As I indicated in the other thread, two reasons.  The one I listed was security - from theft, weather etc. and that's true.  The other, unlisted reason was so that they could later be stealthily deployed at home.  

I have a pile of stuff at work and at home.  We have a crawl space and the Mrs. is rather claustrophobic at times, so she won't go into it.   ;D  I am not and will happily.  there are about 8 huge tupperware tubs down there and all that stuff will eventually make its way out to display, but slowly.  Add to that all the McFarlane stuff I have and boom, tons o toys and tons o $$.  
Like Scott, I don't question what my wife spends her money on, so I believe that gives me justification (hey, I said believe ok).  

I think I've convinced myself to get rid of many of the McFarlane hockey figures (keeping the goalies) except for a few of my favorites.  That should eat up less display room though I still need to get 19 goalies (after NHL5) and variants (10) home and on display without raising the ire of the Mrs.  Eight of those goalies have no variants BTW, unless you get into the whole logo-no logo water bottle discussion.  Three football players to get home too.  

Then I've got to get the Marvel Legends type stuff home too.  Fortunately the Simpsons stuff will just stay at work.  

Wife goes away for a week in August with the buglet ;)
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Mikey D on May 27, 2003, 01:49 PM
I'm in Chris's boat as my wife does the finances and sees all the CC charges.  We each get $150 a week "allowance" (minus $30 for groceries, so its actually $120) to spend anyway we feel.  After gas, lunches, golf, comics, dinners, etc., I'm not left with much money to spend on toys anyway.  Add to the fact that, I've not seen a late 2002 or 2003 figure in stores besides Obi Acklay and Tyranus, all my ordering is now on-line.  Since the wife will see the charges anyway, there really is no need to sneak anything into the house.  And if a large charge is going to be on the statement (ie, a new case from newforce or large shipment from kebco), I'll always tell her first anyways and always pay it back from my allowance (maybe not in one fell swoop, but in payment "plans"), so everything works out in the end.
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Morgbug on May 27, 2003, 01:54 PM
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Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Reconsgt on May 27, 2003, 02:04 PM
Good question.

  I sneak stuff in when possiable but the problem is getting the mail since she works second shift and is always home when it arrives.  Now that we have this new house she gives me the look when alot of items arrive at once.  I really have stopped most of my spending or have offset it buy selling :'( some items or buy working out trades.   She doubts that all my trades are infact trades but that buys me a little leeway.


 In a way I am glad she keeps an eye on me. Before we got together I spent way way to much, now I am more disaplined in my spending.
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Membraneman on May 27, 2003, 10:40 PM
I refuse to answer, on the grounds it might incriminate me ::)
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Morgbug on May 27, 2003, 10:50 PM
Heh, even you Bob?  Even YOU?  I'll be burying this topic when the wife comes home.  Why do you think the title is a little more cryptic that DO YOU SNEAK TOYS? ;D
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: dustrho on May 27, 2003, 11:29 PM
I'll be burying this topic when the wife comes home.  Why do you think the title is a little more cryptic that DO YOU SNEAK TOYS? ;D

Yeah, you don't want to get yourself into any kind of trouble now.   8)
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Morgbug on May 27, 2003, 11:37 PM
Too late for that Chris, my mouth is just a tad too big for my brain.   ;)
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Membraneman on May 28, 2003, 08:19 AM
Actually she's pretty good about it. As long as I'm up front with her it's OK.  ;)
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: DSJ™ on May 28, 2003, 10:08 AM
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Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: max_one on May 28, 2003, 05:55 PM
i am constantly sneaking figs, ships, everything has to be brought in with stealth or there would be hell to pay on most occasions.
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: chuckles on May 28, 2003, 11:18 PM
Let's see. I came home today from work with a couple new Deluxe figs and the TRU 4-pack I found during lunch and low and behold, my wife is napping on the couch. Do I wake her and show her the new stuff, or do I as quietly as possible, take the bags up to the room where my collection is at.  ;)  You guessed it, upstairs they went with my wife none the wiser.  :o

Most stuff she does end up knowing about but there is the occassional thing that gets snuck past her. And oh, let's not forget the times where I "bend" the truth as far as how much I just spent on the stuff I walk in with. She, fortunately for me, doesn't have any clue as to pricing, so a $75 bag of goodies can easily be passed off as only spending $40.  ;D
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Karma on May 29, 2003, 08:49 AM
The hubby is also a fellow SW fan and he knows all about the toys I bring home, but does get a bit peeved that I keep them carded/boxed and that he can't play with them. But, in my defense, if something is really cool, I buy a second one just for that reason.

I do have to sneak some costuming stuff past him...I've spent a pretty penny on some stuff an I've 'disguised' the amounts I've paid for accessories, the perfect pair of boots, his Han Solo holster, etc...

I do feel really bad about my latest scandal....I bought a set of Stormtrooper armor and told him I'd traded another costume I'd made for it, which is a total lie, but I really wanted the armor. I paid for it out of money I'd saved on my own, but I stil lied, because I know he'd be totally PO-d and probably send me to counseling if he knew.

-Karma

Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: JoshEEE on May 29, 2003, 06:37 PM
Man, I feel bad for some of you guys. I live with my girlfriend, and I wouldn't think of hiding my newest Star Wars purchase from her, or ever marrying her if I had to.  ;D

I know at some point, she wants me to buy a bigger house. That'll probably happen when we're married, and then I won't have as much disposable income to spend on Star Wars anymore. At that point, I'll have to monitor my own spending....but I certainly hope that if I decide to splurge, I don't get the third degree. Especially since she helps with my dioramas, she'll notice the new ones.
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: JediMAC on May 29, 2003, 08:18 PM
I do feel really bad about my latest scandal....I bought a set of Stormtrooper armor and told him I'd traded another costume I'd made for it, which is a total lie, but I really wanted the armor. I paid for it out of money I'd saved on my own, but I stil lied, because I know he'd be totally PO-d and probably send me to counseling if he knew.

"Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper...?"

Sorry Karen, couldn't resist!   ;D  Perhaps you're not short at all though...  But FOR SHAME!  Pretty devious little move there, especially since those are some pretty pricey costumes though, aren't they?   ;)  As cool as the Stormtrooper getups are though, I think you should stick with those sweet costumes that you make yourself!  Much more unique and fitting for you, not to mention they stand out way better at the SW costume parties that are usually full of the 501st Stormtroopers already.

But I guess I don't blame you.  Those things are pretty damned cool!  I'd sure love to own a set, and play Stormtrooper for a day...  So, did you get the "female" Stormtrooper version, or just the standard dude?  I'm sure you've seen the pictures of that girl at C2 in her female Stormtrooper armor, right?   :D
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: JoshEEE on May 29, 2003, 08:58 PM
I've got a Jedi outfit, but I just got armor myself, and I highly prefer it. There's something cool about being as close to movie authentic as one can get, you know? I think I decided at Celebration 2 that I was going to get into the 501st, but it's taken me this long to finally do so.

Maybe I'll see Karma at C3 and we'll both be suited up. My girlfriend is currently working on Snowtrooper armor. It's a little trickier than Stormtrooper, because it's not as common, but I think that might be why she's doing it.
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Jango Fettish on May 29, 2003, 10:52 PM
Luckily, I don't have this problem. All my purchases are through eBay, and well, there honestly no way of hiding them from her so she has come to accept it.

I'm pretty good at bargain shopping, so the amount of dough I invest is minimal..

So, over the past 30 days I have spent around $150 on my hobby. I make a good bit, and I have sold alot of my stuff to turn around buy, so why not? Alison has spent a solid $50 on Corsica/Beretta memorabilia.


   JANGO FETT - stands 4 feet high    
  $6.25
   Star Wars Ep 2 JANGO FETT Calendar Card #2    
  $3.84  
   TEMUERA MORRISON PHOTO CARD STAR WARS WEEKEND
   $2.82  
   STAR WARS Book Boba Fett The Fight To Survive    
  $4.25
   Star Wars/Jango Fett 10" Vinyl Figure/Rare    
  $5.99  
   Star Wars Clone Wars Boba Promotional Poster    
  $2.25  
   Jango Fett~Yoda~Darth Vader~Battle Droid~Mags    
  $4.28
   BNWOT official Star Wars t-shirt - 11-12 yrs    
  $5.25  
   Star Wars Playing Cards. Mint. Unopened.    
  $6.56  
   Star Wars GC & PS2 Bounty Hunter Game Standup    
  $25.00  
   Fett UNPAINTED ARMOR!! K-mart Twin Pack!    
  $23.99  
   AOTC Saga Han Solo Hoth Rescue MOC    
  $8.
   Star wars Bounty Hunter Limited Edition Pack    
  $21.51  
   Star Wars JANGO FETT Shirt SHINY Boys 8 NICE    
  $4.95  
   Protech "The Star Case 2" - Qty (10)    
  $12.50  
   Star Wars Boba Fett Helmet 3-D Pewter Keyring    
  $6.49  
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: JoshEEE on May 30, 2003, 01:22 AM
You still dont' have a full on Jango Fett costume yet, do you? I've seen a few now, and they are pretty darn sweet.
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: dustrho on May 30, 2003, 01:23 AM
You still dont' have a full on Jango Fett costume yet, do you?

You think he would have one of those for sure.  C'mon Cory... what are you waiting for?   ;)
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Karma on May 30, 2003, 08:13 AM
The main reason I got the armor is because the 501st FL Garrison is pretty active...we only have a few active  Rebel Legion members, so events wind up being all-501st events anyway.  ::)   Plus, people in armor get most of the attention anyway. Do you know how many times I've been called Princess Leia when I'm in my Jedi robes? It's sad.

I didn't get the "FemTrooper" version, since some 501st events are canon-only, like marching in Disney's MGM  Fan Club Weekend parade.

-Karma


Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: jadesfire on May 30, 2003, 12:11 PM
Like Morgbug, I too get my goods delivered to the office for the security and stealth reasons.  I don't hide anything, so to speak.  It's not my fault he's not home when I come in with my goodies and plop it somewhere in the never ending collection. ;)

I know when Luke's saber came last week from MR, he said "So, is this what part of the tax refund went for?" and I honestly answered "No, of course not",  as it went for another prop...again not my fault he asked the wrong question. :)

Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Snively Bandar on May 30, 2003, 06:14 PM
I know when Luke's saber came last week from MR, he said "So, is this what part of the tax refund went for?" and I honestly answered "No, of course not",  as it went for another prop...again not my fault he asked the wrong question. :)

That's too funny jadesfire!   ;D

As for me, this isn't a major concern quite yet, as my girl and I are still several months away from officially engaged status.  So for now, my finances are solely mine to be concerned with.  But I suppose if I don't find a nice enough rock to stick on her finger, she might seriously start eyeing my collection and pointing out the lopsided discrepancy!   :o

But once we're engaged, and obviously even moreso once we're married, I'll have to get a feel for her tolerance on my SW spending habits before I officially decide if "sneaking" stuff will be necessary.  I'm guessing it might just be.  But I suppose as long as she's allowed to continue on with her massive clothes and shoes collection, she should hopefully not have much of a problem with my Star Wars stuff.   Keyword: Hopefully.
Title: Re: Question for the married folks
Post by: Morgbug on June 2, 2003, 12:51 AM
I just feel so much better now.   ;D  Well, not as lonely anyway.  Last three things through the door were a case of figs (hey, I count it as 1), a Hobgoblin (which my daughter loves - so much for hiding it) and a Marvel Legends Magneto.  Heh. :-*
Title: The Other Half and your Collection
Post by: Pistol Pete on April 13, 2004, 10:03 AM
My wife has been ragging on me for the last 3 months to clean out my closet and sell off some of my enormous collection.  Its something I don't really want to do but I also don't want my wife to be mad at me.  She collects nothing and doesn't really get the whole scene I guess or the Obsessiveness that comes with being a collector.  Shrugs whats a guy to do
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: P'Dubs of the Sith on April 13, 2004, 10:31 AM
By better looking than me femanin companion is fine with me collecting, my room has toys on about every wall but one and and she's fine with it and she wouldn't ever make me get rid of them.

Just rent out a storage shed and display them in there, she never has to know.  ;D
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: Morgbug on April 13, 2004, 11:44 AM
Patience man, patience.  You absolutely have to find her something to collect. Anything.  Tea cups, coke paraphenalia, beer bottles, whatever.  

My wife is pretty cool about it, but at times questions what I'm doing/thinking (I question it too).  But thanks to the muppets, she is much, much less annoyed lately.  I picked up tuxedo kermit as a joke and she loved it.  Then managed to score Statler and Waldorf from Scott on here.  buffetfan helped me out with a tour animal.  Now my wife is asking what else is out there and what is coming up.  She likes them and wants more.   ;D  Making my life easier, but she is by no means a completeist.  Yet.
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: Pistol Pete on April 13, 2004, 02:43 PM
Thats a good idea Morgbug, try and get her into collecting something to lessen the guilt.  Hmmm, I don't know if she would go for that one even
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: Jeff on April 13, 2004, 04:31 PM
Just rent out a storage shed and display them in there, she never has to know.  ;D

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Patience man, patience.  You absolutely have to find her something to collect. Anything.  Tea cups, coke paraphenalia, beer bottles, whatever.  

This is the type of arrangement my wife and I have currently.  Everytime she seees me drag another bag full of figures into the house, it's just another "Pampered Chef" pizza stone, or "Longerberger" basket, or Spa day with the girls.  

Early on in our relationship, there was a bit of grumbling about the dollars spent on SW.  My lovely wife was concerned we were "wasting our money", money that could be well spent on other things (things that "we" wanted, and by "we", I mean she).

So, for kicks, we added up a year's worth of receipts for her "stuff" for a year (Pampered Chef, Spa Days, Salon hair treatments, etc) and all my "stuff" (SW stuff and power tools).  We left our stuff like clothes/food as we'd buy those anyway.  We're talking pure luxury "I gotta have it because I want it not because I need it" items.  

We were both surprised to see that the dollar amounts were VERY close (within $100).  After that, we kind of realized that we both have hobbies and we both have different ways to relax.

Sure, I buy SW stuff that "we" don't need, but at the same time she buys her share of stuff that we don't need.  Since then, neither of us has every really groused that the other is wasting too much money.  

So, to recap.  She has her "Spa days" and product x Parties, while I have my Star Wars room.  Everyone is happy.  That is the blessing of being DINKs (Duel-Income, No Kids), which I'm sure will all change when we finally get around to having kids...

Jeff
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: P'Dubs of the Sith on April 13, 2004, 04:35 PM
Thats a good idea Morgbug, try and get her into collecting something to lessen the guilt.  Hmmm, I don't know if she would go for that one even
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Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: jokabofe on April 13, 2004, 10:17 PM
My wife has been ragging on me for the last 3 months to clean out my closet and sell off some of my enormous collection.  Its something I don't really want to do but I also don't want my wife to be mad at me.  She collects nothing and doesn't really get the whole scene I guess or the Obsessiveness that comes with being a collector.  Shrugs whats a guy to do

divorce my man... divorce. that's what i did  ;D

now i have my own place with not one, not two, but three rooms - three - where i have star wars items displayed. and a fourth room where the "non star wars" items - mostly nightmare before christmas - go.

it's a beautiful thing, being single.
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: JediMAC on May 4, 2004, 11:12 PM
Been reasonably fortunate so far with this issue myself.  Patty's pretty damned tolerant of my collection (and obsessive compulsive collecting habits), and often assists in adding the latest stuff to it herself...  But if I ever let too much of it trickle out of the hobby room, and lay elsewhere around the house for more than a few days, I'm playing with fire!  She'll also bring it up if she's in a bad mood about something else, or if I rag on her for spending too much money on something(s).

But for the most part, she's really cool with it all about 95% of the time.  Gonna get a little trickier in the coming years though, since this stuff ain't slowin' down, and my hobby room and two large storage units are already completely full of my SW loot.  No room left...   :-\
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 4, 2004, 11:53 PM
My wife has been ragging on me for the last 3 months to clean out my closet and sell off some of my enormous collection.  Its something I don't really want to do but I also don't want my wife to be mad at me.  She collects nothing and doesn't really get the whole scene I guess or the Obsessiveness that comes with being a collector.  Shrugs whats a guy to do

divorce my man... divorce. that's what i did  ;D

now i have my own place with not one, not two, but three rooms - three - where i have star wars items displayed. and a fourth room where the "non star wars" items - mostly nightmare before christmas - go.

it's a beautiful thing, being single.

That sounds good for the first few days until, um, all of the soldier's men start building up with no chance in sight to deploy them.

Then all of the sudden that compromise with your girlfriend or wife to keep your hobby confined to just one room in your house didn't sound so bad...
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: Mister Skeezler on May 5, 2004, 09:58 AM
Well, my girlfriend bought me the Imperial Shuttle, so I guess she's cool with it. I have one of the bedrooms in the apartment for my office/collection room. She even suggested that I run a shelf along the wall to fit more stuff (I have a large shelf unit that I built that's chock-full of figures), and hang some of the ships from the ceiling. Luckily I only collect loose, so space is less of a problem.

I know that there is some conflict within her, though, because she's an interior designer. Her opinion is that the display shouldn't look cluttered...but that's not too easy with all these star wars toys!  ;)
Title: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: CHEWIE on November 29, 2005, 10:43 PM
Well?

 :P
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Ben on November 29, 2005, 10:44 PM
I used to say no to this question.

But now, I say yes. As long as she didn't want me to sell it all.
If she wanted me to sell it, I'd distance myself from her.
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 29, 2005, 11:09 PM
I think most of us made this decision a long time ago  ;)

If it was Star Wars figures in general, I would say for the perfect woman yes. If it was for action figures in general, I'd say no. I can live without Leia, but take away all my Teelas, Baronesses, and Elektras, and I'd be a sad existance.
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Tracy on November 29, 2005, 11:12 PM
I wouldn't give up anything for a woman :-X
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Famine on November 29, 2005, 11:28 PM
Yes, but it would have to be a severe situation. Finances, or somthing.

You take me and my hobby. It's a package. I also have a package.

Kevin
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: JayDouble on November 29, 2005, 11:43 PM
Hell no! 

Come to think of it all started when my wife game me a orange card POTF Dagobah Luke on our 5th date.  She still denies it, but it went all downhill from there.   :P
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 29, 2005, 11:46 PM
Hell no! 

Come to think of it all started when my wife game me a orange card POTF Dagobah Luke on our 5th date. 

Thats when you know the relationship is starting to get serious. Where I'm from, you usually don't even get a major character until at least the 10th date...but I guess we were raised differently.

 ;)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Morgbug on November 30, 2005, 12:00 AM
I wouldn't give up anything for a woman :-X

There goes that fantasy ::)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: BillCable on November 30, 2005, 12:21 AM
I already have a woman who supports my hobby.   ;D
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: JoshEEE on November 30, 2005, 01:02 AM
My wife loves Star Wars as much as I do, so I don't think that would ever come up.  She did help talk me into being an opener though. I remember I used to think that was crazy and these days I'd never go back.

Hypothetically...if it came down to her or the collection for some crazy reason, of course I would lose the junk.  Anyone who would choose toys over their partner...needs help.

But nah, Heather would ask me to give up video games LONG before Star Wars. I think my toys are safe until the last game system is gone.  ;D
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Jesse James on November 30, 2005, 01:30 AM
If that hypothetical situation was toys over your partner because like if you didn't give up the toys she'd die...  Yeah I'd give them up of course, however if it was her saying "You can have me or the toys, but I can't stand your hobby anymore" she can kiss the tip of my weenie because that's a big fat crock of poodoo for women to tell you what to do (or husbands in the reversal, of course).  Besides showing a controlling nature it is highly disrespectful and shows absolutely no actual love...

Now, the exception to the rule is if your hobby is detrimental to existance...  IE: You go into debt (or debt you're unable to control), you spend grocery money on toys, you freak out on her because you're mad about the Rebel Fleet Trooper sucking...  Not that I'm saying that could happen even, just bringing it up.   :-X  ;)

But yeah if it was just me buying my crap as usual and she just said one day she's sick of me doing toy runs and wants me to quit or she's leaving me then I'd tell her to pound pavement.  I've found plenty of women who liked my hobby in the past, and I'm sure I'd find plenty in the future.

Not that my current gf would do that, she's always said what I do is better than crack...  I don't know to compare, but I'd think it's at least a step below.
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 30, 2005, 02:34 AM
I would never let my hobby interfere with the relationship I have with my wife (almost 18 years now), period. My wife is my best friend, my lover, and helps me to maintain a balence in my life. Toys or relationships . . .  I'll take the relationship . . . . after I get done with tonights hunt . . .

Kinda of reminds me of the Man Song . . .

http://toilette-humor.com/the-man-song.html

Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: stormie on November 30, 2005, 09:16 AM
Yeah, pretty much what Jesse said. If my wife were controlling enough to tell me what to do, I think I'd need to rethink my relationship. However, if collecting was detrimental to our relationship (spending all my time with the toys and none with her, or buying what we couldn't afford), I'd surely give it up.

However, it's kind of a moot point for me now, since I already gave up collecting (though I keep telling myself it's only temporary) for two women...my daughters. ;)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 30, 2005, 09:39 AM
Jesse beat me to the punch as well. It's one thing to shift your focus in an exciting way toward a loved one, be it an opposite number or a child, but another when the other person is giving you an ultimatum. It won't just stop with collecting and it's not accepting who you are (as long as you're reasonable and don't let collecting run your life.)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: ruiner on November 30, 2005, 12:07 PM
Depends on who she is and what she brings to the table.

Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: name on November 30, 2005, 01:03 PM
. . .and what she brings to the table.



It had better be MY DINNER, dammit.

Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: CHEWIE on November 30, 2005, 01:28 PM
Just for the record, I'm in no way in a situation where my wife is telling me to get out of the hobby.  She supports it 99.9%.  I was just wondering what everyone's take was on it.

Now we've been married for 3+ years and have a great marriage.  If she told me to get rid of the collection... hmmm....  I don't think I would have married her if I thought she'd ever do something like that.

But scale back?  I think we both know that will be necessary once we have a kid.

 :P
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 30, 2005, 03:31 PM

If it was Star Wars figures in general, I would say for the perfect woman yes.

The Perfect Woman :-X??! What is that? Does it exist ???? I fell it Taboo to place those two words next to each other in a sentence. That said.... my stance: Accept me or do not(toys included with sloth). Luckily, she did.
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: JoshEEE on November 30, 2005, 06:00 PM
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Now we've been married for 3+ years and have a great marriage.  If she told me to get rid of the collection... hmmm....  I don't think I would have married her if I thought she'd ever do something like that.

Yeah. I agree in that I don't think I would have married the kind of woman who would ever ask me to give up a hobby either.  The kind of person that wants to change you is trouble.

On the other hand, if any hobby I had was more important to me than my wife, I wouldn't have married her.  I'd just be asking for trouble.

When I was single (or just dating girls casually) my answer would have been quite different I'm sure, but once you find that one to settle down with....I think it brings things into perspective and your opinions change.  I really enjoy going on toy runs, and I love marvelling at my stacks of toys...but I'd throw them all out if my love for the them ever began to compete with the love I have for my wife.  ;D

Of course, like I said before....it's probably easy to say knowing she's never going to walk into my collection room one day and say "all this **** has to go, I want a sewing room".   ;D
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Angry Ewok on November 30, 2005, 06:20 PM
No. Like Kev said, it's a package deal.
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Jesse James on December 1, 2005, 01:31 AM
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toys included with sloth

You have a real sloth?  I want one too.
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Deanpaul on December 1, 2005, 03:39 AM
What about giving up a woman for collecting?
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: name on December 1, 2005, 09:39 AM
You know, when a grown man starts filling his home and office with Star Wars toys, I think he knows that giving up women is just a risk that he's going to have to accept.
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Rune Haako on December 1, 2005, 09:51 AM
Hell no, no woman is worth it! :P
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 1, 2005, 11:14 AM
What about giving up a woman for collecting?

Only if she doesn't have internet access to see the answer to that question.   :P

I wouldn't give up anything for a woman :-X

 :'(

(C'mon Tracy, surely you expected some dumbass to "comment" on that.  Besides Morgbug, I mean.  :P)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 1, 2005, 12:21 PM
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You know, when a grown man starts filling his home and office with Star Wars toys, I think he knows that giving up women is just a risk that he's going to have to accept.

One of my least favorite things about watching the "40 year old virgin" was that I identified a little too closely with his gaming and collecting hobbies.  I found myself saying "Wow, I wish I had that" more than a few times about some of his toys.

Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Tracy on December 2, 2005, 07:37 AM
I wouldn't give up anything for a woman :-X

 :'(

(C'mon Tracy, surely you expected some dumbass to "comment" on that.  Besides Morgbug, I mean.  :P)

I was waiting for you to comment Jesse!  I knew Morgbug wasn't the only dumbass around here :P

 ;)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 3, 2005, 03:03 AM
I knew Morgbug wasn't the only dumbass around here :P
 ;)

Well said!

Hey, wait a minute...  ;)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: JediMAC on December 3, 2005, 05:49 AM
...I knew Morgbug wasn't the only dumbass around here :P

Sorry Tracy, but I'm going to have to staunchly disagree with you on that one.  If not the only dumbass, definitely the biggest one - for sure.

(but FWIW, my dirty mind was all over that comment too!  :P)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 3, 2005, 11:57 AM
Hey Matt, I was wondering when you were going to pop into this thread.

Your answer was going to be very interesting to me, considering one of our past potential trades.  ;D
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on December 3, 2005, 01:25 PM
I've "given up" collecting for a guy... sure, he's 5 years old, and he doesn't mind my occassional SW purchase- especially if he can play with it... but I think we all need to live within our means, whether it's a collection, a habit, a hobby, etc...
Collection is okay... obsession not really.  So, it all depends.  You know you don't want to be 'kissing' someone who is more focused on thinking where they might be able to find the new elusive figure... if you know what I mean... and if you REALLY know what I mean, please get help! ;)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 3, 2005, 08:41 PM
I dunno what you mean ???
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Nirvana on December 3, 2005, 09:05 PM
I think she means that she has son that's 5 years old, right?
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on December 4, 2005, 01:41 AM
Yes, I have a 5 year old son, but I think he's referring to another point in my post- the point about getting help if you are too focused on where to get the next figure than you are on the person you are with...
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Chris M on December 4, 2005, 03:57 PM
In a life or death situation, yeah, I'd give it up.  Afterall, my hobby is really just bits and pieces of plastic and cardboard. ;D

My wife doesn't like Star Wars and my collecting drives her nuts.  That said, she gets the time with me she needs and she understands that I've been a fan all my life and was collecting for years before she and I met.  She understands that it's just part of me.  She also knows that there are numerous other hobbies I could have that would be detrimental to our marriage.

When I spend money on my hobby, she usually will spend money on her hobby.  All in all, it evens out...but I do know my wife is tired of SW and thinks I'm a nerd for chatting on message boards. ;D
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 5, 2005, 02:21 AM
Yes, I have a 5 year old son, but I think he's referring to another point in my post- the point about getting help if you are too focused on where to get the next figure than you are on the person you are with...

And what if the figure is ON the person I'm with AND I'm too focused?!
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 5, 2005, 12:25 PM
Since I'm already thinking seriously about not collecting figures anymore, and since the main reason I collect figures now is to share them with any kids I might have in the future, it would be pretty easy for me to give up collecting for a woman.

My girlfriend doesn't mind my collection, she does kid me about the posters in my living room and the prop lightsaber collection, but she's never said anything about my hobby being too odd that she'd want me to give it up or anything.
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on December 5, 2005, 12:27 PM
Yes, I have a 5 year old son, but I think he's referring to another point in my post- the point about getting help if you are too focused on where to get the next figure than you are on the person you are with...

And what if the figure is ON the person I'm with AND I'm too focused?!
This is just such an open door... but I'm going to be good... for a change... anyone else want to take this one?
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 5, 2005, 01:00 PM
Shannon, you?  Be good?  That's so out of character!  :-*
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on December 5, 2005, 04:15 PM
 :P
Yeah, I'll hopefully be back to "normal" in a few weeks...  :-*
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 5, 2005, 05:55 PM
Do this is all an attempt to get off Santa's Naughty List?  :D
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Killer185 on December 5, 2005, 06:38 PM
Yes, but it would have to be a severe situation. Finances, or somthing.

You take me and my hobby. It's a package. I also have a package.

Kevin
Totally...
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Killer185 on December 5, 2005, 06:41 PM
I think she means that she has son that's 5 years old, right?
I REALLY hope its her son...
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 6, 2005, 10:43 AM
Yes, I have a 5 year old son, but I think he's referring to another point in my post- the point about getting help if you are too focused on where to get the next figure than you are on the person you are with...

And what if the figure is ON the person I'm with AND I'm too focused?!
This is just such an open door... but I'm going to be good... for a change... anyone else want to take this one?

sigh*.... because I intentionally LEFT it open, duh ::)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 6, 2005, 10:47 AM
Santa's Naughty List?  :D


what more can I do to get ON it(the list)?
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: IndianaVader on December 8, 2005, 04:05 AM
I'd give up my collection for the perfect woman, no doubt.  But not for any old chick, she has to be wife potential.  Like I wouldn't give up collecting for a girlfriend.  Screw that.  So I guess what I mean is I would give up my collection for my future wife, who ever that is...

The question is a little vague.  It all depends on the girl.

_Max
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 8, 2005, 12:33 PM
I'd give up my collection for the perfect woman , So I guess what I mean is I would give up my collection for my future wife, who ever that is...
_Max

NST Indy...it doesn't exist. ::)

future wife?- so seeing your youthfulness why talk about marriage? You should be living it up now, getting your freak on. :P
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on December 9, 2005, 02:56 PM
I know you left it open, but it doesn't mean I want to take it :P
Yeah, I better not be on Santa's Naughty List... I've had the most ****** year... luckily the year is almost over at least...
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 9, 2005, 04:31 PM
Yes, I'm feeling the heavy culmination/burden of a rough year myself especially now during the "so-called" holidays. But wait that's every year for me ;) guess I wouldn't have it any other way 8)
Title: Re: Would you give up collecting for a woman?
Post by: jedipurge on December 9, 2005, 06:43 PM
Eminem-"they make it all up.  there's no such thing.  like a female with good looks who cooks and cleans." ;)  there is no perfect woman only women you see as perfect.  but i'm not angry or anything. ::)
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: McMetal on November 12, 2009, 03:25 PM
I get so many recommendations from people to order online, I really need to add a disclaimer as my sig:

"Thanks for your concern, but online ordering is NEVER going to be an option for me as long as I am married to my current wife. You fine people simply do not grasp the atomic level intensity of my wife's temper when it comes to boxes of worthless junk toys showing up at our house. I do not need that kind of stress in my life. I would rather have my nuts splattered with a ballpeen hammer than to endure that kind of unrelentingly painful punishment."

Trust me, it's much more appealing to go through the angst and frustration of driving store to store than to put up with any more of that nonsense.
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 12, 2009, 03:28 PM
I get so many recommendations from people to order online, I really need to add a disclaimer as my sig:

"Thanks for your concern, but online ordering is NEVER going to be an option for me as long as I am married to my current wife. You fine people simply do not grasp the atomic level intensity of my wife's temper when it comes to boxes of worthless junk toys showing up at our house. I do not need that kind of stress in my life. I would rather have my nuts splattered with a ballpeen hammer than to endure that kind of unrelentingly painful punishment."

Trust me, it's much more appealing to go through the angst and frustration of driving store to store than to put up with any more of that nonsense.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 12, 2009, 04:18 PM
Mc, I can understand & sympathize with your dilemma  but at the same time I cannot respect it (I lived it at one point so I know it first hand). It's a classic case of not setting the rules beforehand and letting the woman disrespect you. They got to respect your hobby and deal with it especially if you are the breadwinner and are responsible with your money/time. Cause if they don't they don't respect you - period. Does she shop like crazy? Buy too many shoes? I'm am sure there is something she is being a hypocrite on. Call her on it, use the reverse psychology on her. Too many guys fall into this new age crap. I did at one point and learned the hard way.

When I started dating my wife and other chics after my ex I laid the rules out. I collect SWs and lift weights, it's what I do do not expect me to stop unless we are in a pinch or I am irresponsible. They do not have to like what you collect or do as a hobby but they have to respect it (so long as it's not harming you relationship and drugs etc). I learned my lesson with my exgirlfriend the more I gave in the less they respect you and walk all over you. I even sold stuff out of guilt to shut her up/make her happy, it was the worst mistake I ever made. I am the king of the castle, the breadwinner and I responsible with my spending. If a box shows up on my doorstep I expect it brought in from the cold with no peeps. If finances were tight, I stayed out all night or was not taking care of my family I would get the gripes. If you are buying it anyway what's the difference?

I just moved and now have my own bedroom for my collection. My family is taken care of first but I got my space and was part of the criteria of our house hunting. Women no matter what age, race, or background will respect you more if you hold your ground. (Look for pics coming soon on my ultimate SW room soon)

It really makes a difference. I sincerely mean what I said above man to man.

Back to topic I just got a notice from EE they are limiting my preorder on the Geo Bubble pack because Hasbro contacted them about the limits. I had 4 on preorder to finish off my 6 Gunships. I already have 8 Gunship Bubbles but it's a sign of the shortage that the article spoke off. I do not mind too much as the TRU Crumbomber is really meant to have closed doors, I may use the old school ones so they can fold in.

I spent a lot of money on that pack already.
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: Jayson on November 12, 2009, 04:32 PM
Mc, I can understand & sympathize with your dilemma  but at the same time I cannot respect it (I lived it at one point so I know it first hand). It's a classic case of not setting the rules beforehand and letting the woman disrespect you. They got to respect your hobby and deal with it especially if you are the breadwinner and are responsible with your money/time. Cause if they don't they don't respect you - period. Does she shop like crazy? Buy too many shoes? I'm am sure there is something she is being a hypocrite on. Call her on it, use the reverse psychology on her. Too many guys fall into this new age crap. I did at one point and learned the hard way.

A punch in the stomach works good too.

j/k
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 12, 2009, 05:25 PM
I know you were talking to McMetal, but I'm in the same boat as him. And you little "advice" was all well and good for your scenario, but I (and I'm sure McMetal) don't need you to tell us whether our wives respect us because they don't like the idea of spending thousands of dollars on toys.

Awesome for you that your wife is fine with it, but maybe you could watch calling others "p*ssies" in so many words when you have no idea about us and or our wives.
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: Darby on November 12, 2009, 09:09 PM
This is the best thread ever.

Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: JES on November 12, 2009, 09:20 PM
Wow... I saw mention of ***** and of course I wasn't around to see any. Damn it!

Anyways... Can I ask a simple question. Whether or not you get a box in with more toys or just keep adding "secretly" to what you have already WTF is the difference? ???

Do your wives think the toy fairy showed up at night and **** out another load of those annoying little plastic men?
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: McMetal on November 13, 2009, 11:44 AM
I don't want to derail this thread either because I love this forum and want to stay on the good side of the Mods, but I'll make 2 quick points and get back on topic.

I don't display any of the "new" stuff I buy, or even open it. Only the vintage stuff is on display, and that is all in the Man-Cave where the wife rarely makes an appearance. So anything I buy out in a store gets sneaked into the house surreptitiously and immediately stashed away. Only bigger packages showing up at the front door attract attention. THAT's what I am trying to avoid.

As for the other stuff, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would just say that we should probably be careful about applying our own wisdom and experience to other people's situations though. There are a lot of complex relationship dynamics between men and women and it's really impossible to make snap judgements without being in those shoes. 'Nuff Said.
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: JES on November 13, 2009, 11:57 AM



As for the other stuff, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would just say that we should probably be careful about applying our own wisdom and experience to other people's situations though. There are a lot of complex relationship dynamics between men and women and it's really impossible to make snap judgements without being in those shoes. 'Nuff Said.
 

Well, I think if one airs their laundry out then they don't have much a leg to stand on if people respond to it.

No matter how you slice it a relationship isn't just one sided. I have been with my wife for 14 years now. If you haven't come that far then you have a lot to come if you have hide toys because she'll bitch and moan. That's something you enjoy and whether or not she gives a **** about it it's your thing and should be respected.

Relationships are 50/50 - ask any judge he'll let ya know. I know my wife and I wouldn't be together if we didn't respect each others quirks be it good or bad. Come talk to me when you 14 years in.
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 13, 2009, 12:20 PM
There is a difference between sharing your wisdom and bad mouthing someone's relationship. I respect your 14 years of marriage, BUT that sure doesn't mean I'm ok with someone ripping my or other's relationships because you've been married longer.
Title: Re: The Other Half and Your Collection
Post by: BillCable on November 13, 2009, 12:55 PM
I can't see any relationship lasting if one person is hiding their activities from the other.  If your relationship has that sort of dishonesty built in, it's pretty much doomed.  And it shows disrespect from both sides.

I pity you guys.  My wife encourages me to collect, and wonders what's wrong if I'm not spending enough.
Title: Re: The Other Half and Your Collection
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 13, 2009, 01:10 PM
I just called my lawyer and we're getting a divorce. Thanks guys for saving me years of hell.
Title: Re: The Other Half and Your Collection
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on November 13, 2009, 01:13 PM
I'd have to agree with Bill here - how can you derive any pleasure from the hobby if you have to carry it out in secret? I'm not going to say anyone's relationship is better or worse off in any regards, but what's the point of collecting if it's something you have to immediately hide away in fear of, as McMetal put it, "unrelentingly painful punishment" from your partner? I wouldn't go as far as JACK stated and "set ground rules" or anything (some of that sounded pretty misogynistic, man), but you should feel free to, within economical and fair boundaries, carry out your hobbies without threat or fear of retribution. That's just my 2˘, and of course we all have political and social dynamics in every relationship, but life is too short to have to concede the things we love the most, and that goes both ways.
Title: Re: The Other Half and Your Collection
Post by: BillCable on November 13, 2009, 01:22 PM
The way I see it, what your doing isn't much different from sneaking around and sleeping with other women.  It's a broken trust.  If you can't agree on a certain activity, you either stand your ground and fight about it every time or you quit.  Lying about it just poisons the relationship.  How can you have any respect for your spouse if you lie to her constantly?
Title: Re: The Other Half and Your Collection
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 13, 2009, 01:35 PM
Thanks for your opinions guys.
Title: Re: The Other Half and Your Collection
Post by: Jesse James on November 13, 2009, 03:03 PM
My gf sometimes bitches but I just ignore her.  Not her money, even though our relationship is sort of like marriage and we spend on one another for various things.  Sometimes the funny money's short to do things like going out and that's when I catch a little hell.  But I simply ignore it and get the stuff I want.

Ultimately she's not threatening me with a split over it, and even if she was I think it'd be a bluff. 

I do think some spending can get to excess...  But I'd hope folks are putting their bills and things first and not at that point.  That's also a betrayal against the spouse even if you maybe bring home the bacon.
Title: Re: The Other Half
Post by: name on November 17, 2009, 09:37 AM
It's a classic case of not setting the rules beforehand and letting the woman disrespect you. They got to respect your hobby and deal with it especially if you are the breadwinner and are responsible with your money/time. ...

When I started dating my wife and other chics after my ex I laid the rules out. I collect SWs and lift weights, it's what I do ....

I just moved and now have my own bedroom for my collection. My family is taken care of first but I got my space and was part of the criteria of our house hunting. Women no matter what age, race, or background will respect you more if you hold your ground. (Look for pics coming soon on my ultimate SW room soon)



I keep reading this and it just keeps getting funnier and funnier.  Gold.  If you were going for parody, you nailed it. 

It's not JUST the exagerrated machismo....it's that it's in the context of Star Wars toys!!  LMAO..."Woman, you'd better RESPECT my little plastic men!  Now step out my collecting room and fix me some blue milk."

The only thing that would make the whole post more perfect is if it ended with this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9zjbDDHxxs).
Title: Re: The Other Half and Your Collection
Post by: IncomT65 on November 23, 2009, 04:59 PM
My g/f sometimes just does this  ::) when another parcel of figures arrives. Glad she wasn't home when those two CW Octuptarras knocked on my door  ;D

But I've got a nice little room for my collection and customizing needs, although I've got five boxes of potential fodder on the attic. But most of my collection is in that little room. And the room is getting smaller by the week  ;)