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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Legacy Collection => Topic started by: David on July 5, 2008, 02:46 PM
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I wasn't quite sure where to put this, so hopefully this will be okay here. I was just thinking about how many new figures Hasbro has given us just in the last two years, of characters collectors have been asking for for ages. ICMG, Yarna, CZ-4, Wulf Yularen, Academy Biggs, etc...So I was wondering...who are we as collectors gonna stand behind now, and possibly wait years and years to finally see made? Sure, that's what the wishlist poll is for, but ICMG and Yarna in particular just seemed to have a huge huge following of epic proportions.
Basically, can there ever be another 'ICMG?' Will there ever be? And if so, who?
I dunno, I've just really been thinking about this, especially now that it sounds like another official Fan's Choice Contest is on its way. Your thoughts?
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The answer is obvious - A generic Dresselian rebel.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/8/84/DresselianNEGAS.jpg/200px-DresselianNEGAS.jpg)
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Two words: Noa Briqualon.
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/1/12/Noa_briqualon.jpg)
This might be one of our few chances to see Mr. Wilford Brimley immortalized in plastic. Don't waste it.
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Dang, there's still so many choices. I'd probably endorse an obscure cantina character, like Yerka Mig or Garouf Lafoe.
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/7/78/Yerka-mig.jpg/250px-Yerka-mig.jpg)
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/d/de/Garouf-lafoe.jpg/250px-Garouf-lafoe.jpg)
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His name is Bob Hudsol (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bob_Hudsol)
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/09/Bobh.jpg)
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(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/7/78/Yerka-mig.jpg/250px-Yerka-mig.jpg)
Wow. I didn't know Kevin Costner was in Star Wars.
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ROTS Nute and Rune, which should've been made years ago.
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This thread is proof that I don't think there will be another large scale movement like Yarna or ICMG had...with maybe one exception. Back in the day I remember Amanaman and Ephant Mon were long requested and much gnashing of teeth when they continually were not made. Being the Cantina is one of the most favorite scenes in all 6 moives, I think there is a pair of characters who have been asked for since the late 90's who we are continually told no over and have been on wishlists for about as long.
(http://www.mintinbox.net/Actus/05-04/portal_skins/custom/actus/05-04/tonnika%20sisters/tonnika3.jpg)
The problem being of course likeness rights and all that jazz. I know the Sandtroopers reported a few years back about one of them (Hewitt?) signing with Hasbro but I find it odd they haven't made one of them yet. They are about as obscure as everyone else listed and really just set dressing like Yarna and ICMG. I think interest was actually higher a few years ago than it is now. Maybe tempered by the signing news and maybe because people actually realize that Hasbro will make just about everything ;)
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If we're talking as obscure as ICMG, then I don't see why any of the Ewok TV movie characters can't get made.
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ROTS Nute and Rune, which should've been made years ago.
Still waiting for that Rune Haako Evolutions pack I see? ;)
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I guess for me it would have to be Droids and Ewoks characters. (Ewok movies as well) Vlix would be my #1 choice but even he doesnt compare to how many times i verbalized that i wanted a Yarna figure.
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I want Lumpy...
(http://www.mutantreviewers.com/vswhs3.jpg)
...or Ackmena with Giant Rat.
(http://www.stomptokyo.com/sings/swholiday/images/giantrat.jpg)
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Scott, I'd be afraid that a movement for the twins would truly be a waste of time due to the legality issues. I want them made as much as anyone, and Hasbro knows the clamor. They aren't making them for a reason other than perceived lack of interest I think. A true fan movement would have to be for a character that is obscure but seems intuitively that no one one would care for in Hasbro's mind (not a collective mind of course :P)
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If we're talking as obscure as ICMG, then I don't see why any of the Ewok TV movie characters can't get made.
The thread is about who the collectors are going to get behind next, my point is that there have been 10+ characters already named in this thread and each person has their own idea who that should be. I don't see any massive groundswell for any single character.
I personally want Ackmena and I know I'm not alone but she usually ranks pretty low on peoples list and I've blown my wad as far as chips to cash in and so I've retired from the "Let's get _____ made" campaigns
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The Cantina Baglady!!!
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I would get behind a Tonnika Sisters movement. I really would like those 2 in my collection. If they never make them I am fine with it especially since they have produced so many characters I never thought they would even consider. I am actually starting to believe that whole rights issue since they release anything nowadays. They know there is a little niche group that would scarf up the Sisters in a heartbeat. I am just happy to see 4 cantina aliens coming in one wave soon.
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If we're going for "simply needs done, and done right", I think you all should be backing a new Rebel Fleet Trooper, a new Rebel Hoth Trooper, and a new Rebel Endor Trooper... all done to Imperial trooper standards at this point. I mean, seriously... When the honor guard is your best rebel figure, you've got issues.
If we're going film obscurity... I'm with DB. We need Garouf Lafoe... He's been on my wishlist for ages now, and sure he's dull and just a human, but he's the guy that snitches on Obi-Wan in the Cantina... How do you not get Garindan's competition!? A close second for me would then be any one of the human "thugs" Jabba takes to the Falcon with him. In particular though, pointy hat guy and big bearded guy are my favorites. There's a dude looks like Biggs too, in Luke's dumb hat, and honestly any of those guys would rock.
If we're going "EU" obscurity ala the holiday special... Eh, I dunno. I can't get behind anything from the Ewok movies, or Ewoks/Droids cartoons. Those weren't really popular when they were on TV, so really unless it's the beast Boba's riding, I'm just not into that... The Ewok movies are cute, but not my thing.
I could dig Ackmena but I doubt I really get into "backing" a fan push for her... I'd rather Chewie's family first, but that's me. I like Wookiee variety.
For EU obscurity I dunno... I'd rather see film obscurity first, like Mr. Lafoe... Come on, Cantina snitch! You know you want one and the Cantina can't just be all aliens in there besides the heroes... Gotta sprinkle some humans in since they're the most common species in the galaxy.
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Truth be told, I'd get behind any fan request. It really doesn't matter who to me! If enough people think a movement could get by whatever real or imagined reason Hasbro does not make the Tonnika sisters, then I'll join it too! JJ, I would have definitely mentioned those rebel troops you did (human troops are my single favorite character category!) but I'm just so convinced they'll be made within the next 2 years. I think Hasbro has at least suggested the Echo trooper is coming within a couple Hoth waves. To follow the Yarna and ICMG successes, the choice has to be someone Hasbro guys wouldn't have thought we'd find exciting, but sort of tickles their nostalgic tendencies too. The Tonnika girls fit that, but again- the dumb avoidance by Hasbro suggests a real reason they're not producing them. The fact that ICMG would ever have been made is a miraculous feat to me, so someone like Lafoe or Yerka would be much more likely given their cantina appearance. Anyway, someone start a webpage and I'll be there to sign it!
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...or Ackmena with Giant Rat.
(http://www.stomptokyo.com/sings/swholiday/images/giantrat.jpg)
The Rat better be SA, or I'm not buying it.
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The thread is about who the collectors are going to get behind next, my point is that there have been 10+ characters already named in this thread and each person has their own idea who that should be. I don't see any massive groundswell for any single character.
Agreed. There really aren't any one or two characters left that a large number of people can get behind.
Yarna had a following I think more for the fact that she was a figure we "almost" got in the vintage line. Hasbro quelled requests for Yak Face early, as well as for characters that had never been made before, i.e. Tarkin & Slave Leia. It took some time, but as someone pointed out we even got Ephant Mon for the first time and an updated Amanaman. We've also gotten Uncle Owen (granted he needs to be re-done at this point) and Aunt Beru figures, something we never had before.
If I were to pick one thing that they collector community could easily get behind, it would probably be the completion of remaking the vintage figures.
Heck, once they're done with those, we could then start to petition them for figures from the two live-action Ewok movies and updates of the Ewok and Droids figure lines. I think lowest on the list should be figures from the Holiday Special - specifically Chewie's family and Ackema.
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The Rat better be SA, or I'm not buying it.
:)
If I were to pick one thing that they collector community could easily get behind, it would probably be the completion of remaking the vintage figures.
Sim Aloo! Yeah! ;D
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I think the Tonnika sisters are definitely something the collecting community can get behind. The fact that they're in the cantina scene certainly adds to their cache'. But it seems like we've gotten so many conflicting answers from Hasbro and one of the actors that I don't know what to regard as the real deal. And that makes me think that's how Hasbro wants it to be. I think a decision got made about the Tonnika's between Hasbro and Lucas Licensing and they've decided to let confusion rule instead of giving us a straight answer. And when you factor in the whole "Star Whores" nickname... that certainly doesn't help the cause.
I think that completing the vintage figure line is a cause worth getting behind. We're pretty close to that mark now, and it seems like a realistic goal. As long as people can agree about what's really done and what isn't done.
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For REAL the Tonnika sisters.
For FUN, Bea Arthur/Ackmena http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ackmena
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/ba/Ackmena1.jpg)
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I get the point of the thread, I just don't get a fire under my butt to get behind really obscure characters. I'd rather put energy into getting some of the remaining classics out of the way like Jabba's palace Klaatu. In regards to the spirit of the thread, in my non-committal way, I'm just trying to say I could kind of support an Ewok TV movie character over some of the other characters mentioned, though which one doesn't matter.
But if you really want a suggestion, then I'll take the Alien Bespin Security Guard who I believe never appeared on screen - Urtis M'Toc.
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Ackmena seems to be the most popular 3rd rate character popping up on these kinds of forum polls. I actually want a figure of her and would gladly sign the petition for her. The classic characters that need to be redone will be eventually. If there is going to be a new petition for a figure lets rally for an obscure character that would otherwise never be made.
Ackmena has my vote!
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I have no problem with Ackmena especially if it means getting us more Holiday Special figures. I really want the Wookie family.
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Beside the perennial favorites of the Tonnika Sisters, my personal choice would be for the human Jabba from ANH cutscene. I figure he'd have a decent enough shot now that LFL/Hasbro has opened the door for cutscene figures.
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It seems Ackmeena is the only weirdo figure to have any genuine momentum behind her, but coming from the Holiday Special might make Lucasfilm shoot her down. (Although we did get Boba, so... who knows.)
Fan momentum, positive or otherwise, did result in Wuher, BoShek, Gargan, and soon, the Ice Cream Maker Guy. All movie characters, many of which were genuinely neat ideas for a figure, but mostly had a heavy ha-ha wouldn't-it-be-funny-if factor that helped fans demand it. (And there was the vintage Gargan proto, which surely helped.)
If the Tonnika girls didn't have all this alleged legal baggage, I'm sure we'd have them and not even need to ask Hasbro to make them. Heck, Galoob even made one of them.
Personally, I'd push hard for Vlix, but nobody else seems to be vocal about him. Ackmeena is getting a lot of buzz, especially from Adam May over at GH, so I'd say if a fan rally were about to start, it'd definitely be her. Bea Arthur absolutely has the smirk appeal that carried eyeballs to BoShek, Gargan, and ICMG, it's just such a weirdly appealing idea for a toy that it would seem extremely unlikely that fans will not start demanding this one over the next 18 months. No matter how much sense Klaatu would make, or a super-articulated Rebel from Endor, the Tantive IV, or Hoth, or anything else... you can't out-weird Bea Arthur as a space bartender. (Except maybe one of the Harvey Korman characters.)
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Two words: Noa Briqualon.
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/1/12/Noa_briqualon.jpg)
This might be one of our few chances to see Mr. Wilford Brimley immortalized in plastic. Don't waste it.
Although it would be a collector-oriented release, it would obviously be a peg warmer. And what kid would want to play with this?!
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The Holiday special has some great cantina guys, but if we ever get Ackmena I'd want a Tork http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tork as well, ever since I saw him on the cover of an old Starlog. ;D
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What about the big fat Scottish guy who played Jabba in the cut scenes? I'd really like him.
Also, because it was one of the first things I saw from TPM, I'd really like that tall guy with the White/Black face.
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The thread is about who the collectors are going to get behind next, my point is that there have been 10+ characters already named in this thread and each person has their own idea who that should be. I don't see any massive groundswell for any single character.
That's true, but to be fair, was there really an enormous groundswell for ICMG before you guys got the word out, website, polls, petitions, creating a funny backstory, etc.? I think it took someone (you, in this case) to really spearhead it and make it "real" (which lead to it being REAL real). If you went back to before the whole ICMG thing started, you'd probably have had the same dozens of obscure characters that people were interested in.
ICMG has another thing going for him, though, which is that, while he's an obscure player, he's an actor carrying around an ice cream maker as a prop, which is pretty funny in and of itself. It was so absurd that the character lent itself well to a full on campaign that got fans interested not just because he was an obscure character, but also because it was just pretty funny overall, too.
I think that if someone took another of the SW oddities and got another mainstream campaign going, it would pick up the same way that ICMG did. It would take a very similar approach, but now we know that there is a real end goal that Hasbro can and will play along with, even if it takes years. But just posting a few want lists on a forum isn't going to be enough for that, not for a way-in-the-background kind of character. So who wants to take the torch? And for whom?
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If you want funny...look no further than Krelman
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/a/a2/Krelman_drinks.png)
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How about the Janitor who cleans up all the bodies that fall down shafts and such from Robot Chicken?
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If you want funny...look no further than Krelman
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/a/a2/Krelman_drinks.png)
I'd get behind that.
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If you want funny...look no further than Krelman
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/a/a2/Krelman_drinks.png)
I already want this figure... I'll customize him if I have to someday, but regardless, I must have this guy in the Cantina.
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Whatever it is, it needs to be an OT human, or human-esque alien. Boring to the point that nobody outside of a Star Wars forum really cares... so with that in mind, the one striking hole in all of our collections is MESO (Mos Eisley Security Officer).
(http://multimedia.theforce.net/museum/images/Images/Classic_Trilogy/Locations/Tatooine/A_New_Hope/dwrqueen.jpg)
No Mos Eisley diorama is complete (or safe) without your local desert security officer keeping the peace.
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I think I'd rather have that trashed out scaffolding in the background than a Mos Eisley security officer.
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Seated (drunk) jawas?
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(http://www.rebelscum.com/2009/LCBD39jawa1.jpg)
All he needs is a beer in his hand.
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You mean that's not a keg that he comes with?
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You mean that's not a keg that he comes with?
It's a mobile keg, equipped with security devices to keep the other leeching Jawas away.
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You mean that's not a keg that he comes with?
It's a mobile keg, equipped with security devices to keep the other leeching Jawas away.
And other Legacy Jawa comes with the tapper. :D
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But the one with the tapper always gets lost on the way to the party while trying to meet girls.