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Title: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on September 9, 2010, 11:39 PM
I've said this for five years now...New Orleans is not the new America's team.  Stop trying to tell us they are.  I am so damn sick of the media jamming the Katrina/Saints crap down our throats...get over it

Great game tonight, I was really impressed with both D.  Farve looked tired, the lack of the WR showed big time
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Neal on September 10, 2010, 09:18 AM
I have to disagree about the game being "great".  Just because the score is close doesn't necessarily mean the game was well-played.  I was bored out of my mind watching it, especially in the second half.  I expected more out of those two teams.  Oh well. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on September 10, 2010, 09:20 AM
I thought the game was horrible. I thought it was more about bad offense than good defense which seems like a weird thing to say in a Vikings/Saints game.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: John C on September 10, 2010, 10:44 AM
Both teams had some rust and it showed.  Hopefully it'll be gone by week 2.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 11, 2010, 12:34 AM
I thought the game was horrible. I thought it was more about bad offense than good defense which seems like a weird thing to say in a Vikings/Saints game.

Agreed.  Pretty disappointing to see two top offenses from last year muster a combined 23 points.  Blech.  I had high hopes when the Saints scored on the first drive, but the rest of the game was a snooze-fest.  I thought the MN defense was built to stop the run, but P. Thomas had what 90yds and a TD?  The NO offense was pretty lackluster as well, though the defense did a nice job of stopping Peterson & Shianco in the second half. 

I think Favre will develop a better rapport with his receivers in the coming weeks, but I think this CLEARLY shows why you need be at training camp a little sooner.  Favre insists he is just as good as if he had been in camp (and that may be true), but his receivers were definitely not on the same page and I blame that on a lack of preparation in camp.  I also don't get why the Vikings didn't go get Houshmanzadah and why they dropped J. Walker after a pretty solid preseason.   ???
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on September 11, 2010, 01:20 AM
I also don't get why the Vikings didn't go get Houshmanzadah and why they dropped J. Walker after a pretty solid preseason.   ???

If they don't throw everything they have at Vincent Jackson, they're fools.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 12, 2010, 07:18 PM
The Giants offense looked pretty good in the 2nd half...osing Kevin Boss is going to suck for a while.  Glad they won their inagural home game!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on September 13, 2010, 12:00 AM
Is it too late to rejoin the Fire Wade Phillips campaign? :-X

Also thanks to my being unable to make a decision, I picked Dallas in the JD Survival league. One less guy you get to compete with. ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 13, 2010, 01:24 AM
Didn't a bunch of the guys on the Fox pre-game pick Dallas to win it all?  Kiss of death I tell ya!

One thing I really liked in the pregame this morning was Terry Bradshaw's fired up segment.  He really took Rothlesberger to the wood shed in it!

Also, I think people are going to be talking about that Detroit touchdown pass for a while.  :-\
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on September 20, 2010, 03:50 PM
Is it too late to rejoin the Fire Wade Phillips campaign? :-X


Never too late.  In fact instead of our next Action Figure petition drive, I am going to start the fire Wade, Garrett, Romo, Roy Williams, Felix Jones petition.

Oh and in the interest of supporting teams within the home state, I am now a Houston Texans fan.  Even next Sunday. 

History shows us that after a 1-15 season the Cowboys are due for 3 Super Bowls in 4 years.  So hopefully the Cowboys beat the Giants or Eagles and lose the rest.  Besides if the Cowboys were in the Super Bowl this Season, I would feel compelled to at least try to attend.  No threat now.  Only 13% of teams that have gone 0-2 have made the playoffs that year.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 20, 2010, 05:09 PM
The Texans rock.  How this team consistently misses the playoffs is beyond me.

Re:  Cowboys - you know it's time to clean house when the lowly Bears (who lost to the lowly Lions) come to town and win.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on September 21, 2010, 06:54 PM
Same here Paul. Time to pick up a Texans shirt. Still going to support Dallas, but yeah... I'm in for another miserable season. :)

Ruiner, the Texans actually reeeeeeally sucked until maybe 2-3 years ago, when they became decent. They're only a few defensive adjustments away from being an elite team IMO.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 22, 2010, 03:25 PM
I'm excited to see the NFC North this weekend.  Packers and Bears on Monday night and both are undefeated?  Awesome.  And winless Detroit coming to visit winless Minnesota.  Detroit has looked like the better team thus far, so this is a big game for us locals.  If the Lions come to town and get the win, the Vikes are going to implode.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on September 23, 2010, 12:01 AM
Man, I hope the Lions pull that one off - they have a shot; they came back against the Eagles and technically beat the Bears. . .
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on September 26, 2010, 03:53 PM
I will apolgize to the Houston Texan fans, I bought a Texans Jersey this week.  The PM rooting curse in Full effect.

I still expect the Cowboys to go 1-15 and the Texans to make the playoffs.  But the weather is in the 70's here today (hello winter) so it is a great day for some football watching.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on September 27, 2010, 02:04 AM
But the weather is in the 70's here today (hello winter) so it is a great day for some football watching.

Lines like that never cease to make me laugh.  I'd melt in your state.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on September 28, 2010, 01:04 PM
Obviously everyone is just ticked off about the lousy calls against the Packers last night.  The 3-0 Bears should be 1-2 right now.   >:(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on September 29, 2010, 09:55 AM
I agree, the Bears seem to have a horseshoe continually shoved up their ass...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on September 29, 2010, 10:00 AM
Obviously everyone is just ticked off about the lousy calls against the Packers last night.  The 3-0 Bears should be 1-2 right now.   >:(

Good times.  :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on September 29, 2010, 11:35 AM
I agree, the Bears seem to have a horseshoe continually shoved up their ass...

The people in this city seem to already be convinced that the Bears are headed to the Superbowl.  I think they're better than last year, but 3-0 is an illusion and it's not going to last. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 3, 2010, 07:20 PM
I was hoping for a good game between Philly and Washington. 

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 4, 2010, 12:17 AM
The Giants looked much better tonight.  Hopefully, they can keep it up!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 4, 2010, 08:02 AM
The Giants looked much better tonight.  Hopefully, they can keep it up!

Did you think so?  I only checked in on the game occassionally, but seemed like both teams were awful outside of one really nice drive by the Giants that ended with Bradshaw in the endzone. 

I went to the Packer game yesterday and had a blast.  They started out dominant in the first half, but like usual they played to the level of their opponent and were terrrrrrrible in the second half.  Hanson had 4 field goals in about 10 minutes and suddenly it was 28-26.  Glad the Pack held on for a win, but it wasn't a very inspiring one.   :P
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: I Am Sith on October 4, 2010, 10:14 AM
The people in this city seem to already be convinced that the Bears are headed to the Superbowl.  I think they're better than last year, but 3-0 is an illusion and it's not going to last. 

The city of Chicago had a rude awakening last night with that game.  Terrible on all fronts.  I'd be surprised if they win another game with how bad their offense looked last night.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on October 4, 2010, 10:32 AM
I wouldn't say they lose the next 12 but they were exposed a little last night

That said, they legitimatly beat the Cowboys and Pack...they are a boderline playoff team

The problem with the NFC North is that other than the Champion, I don't see a second team making the playoffs...their schedules are brutal in playing the AFC East and NFC East and each other.  I still think the Pack are the favorites for the North
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 4, 2010, 10:48 AM
The problem with the NFC North is that other than the Champion, I don't see a second team making the playoffs...their schedules are brutal in playing the AFC East and NFC East and each other.  I still think the Pack are the favorites for the North

At this rate, it isn't going to matter who wins.  None of the NFC North teams are looking like they'd make it through a real playoff game, including the Packers.  I had really high hopes for all four teams this year and am shocked at how bad they all are.  Honestly, the Lions are playing as well as the Packers, Vikings, or Bears in the games I've seen - just not finishing teams off at the end. 

Like yesterday, they had four field goals in what, 10 minutes?  If any one of those goes for a TD instead, they win the game.  They should have won the Bears game if not for a goof call - one or two plays different and they could be 2-2 right now. 

The Vikings run game looks good and the defense is okay, though not as good as expected.  If Favre gets going, they will be tough again.  They have some catching up to do now though with just one win.

Personally, I don't think the Bears have looked good in any of their four games.  They have had some good plays, but Cutler is erratic and they really don't have a rushing attack.  And if Cutler is out for any length of time, they are screwed.

The Packers had an impressive first half yesterday on both sides of the ball, but they were terrible in the second half.  They couldn't make any forward progress on offense and the defense was giving up tons of yardage.  To the Lions.  Ugh.  The only saving grace is that they were holding Detroit to FGs.  They will not go anywhere in the playoffs unless they can find a run game somewhere.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on October 4, 2010, 10:53 AM
AGreed, I had a bit at the end of my post that the Bears, Vikes and Pack are still behind the favorites in the NFC, but erased it because: Its early and there is no clear favorite yet
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on October 4, 2010, 11:02 AM
The people in this city seem to already be convinced that the Bears are headed to the Superbowl.  I think they're better than last year, but 3-0 is an illusion and it's not going to last. 

The city of Chicago had a rude awakening last night with that game.  Terrible on all fronts.  I'd be surprised if they win another game with how bad their offense looked last night.

The Bears are lucky they're not 1-3 right now.  They may be 3-1, but they're not contenders.  Looking at their schedule, I think they're about an 8-8 team.  They might get to 6-2, but they start playing tougher games down the stretch.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 4, 2010, 02:52 PM
The Giants looked much better tonight.  Hopefully, they can keep it up!

Did you think so?  I only checked in on the game occassionally, but seemed like both teams were awful outside of one really nice drive by the Giants that ended with Bradshaw in the endzone. 

Granted, Colin didn't let me watch the entire game as intently as I normally do, but the Giants Defense looked solid and the offense did put up some good numbers.  Take away those two fumbles and the giants could've added another 14 points easily.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on October 4, 2010, 05:47 PM
And the Chiefs are the last un-defeated team in the League this season?  It is only week 4.  What is the earliest we have had all teams in the league with at least one loss?  The 72 Dolphins will be celebrating early this year.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on October 4, 2010, 07:44 PM
And the Chiefs are the last un-defeated team in the League this season?  It is only week 4.  What is the earliest we have had all teams in the league with at least one loss?  The 72 Dolphins will be celebrating early this year.

I thought they had to stop celebrating since the Patriots went 16-0?

No?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 4, 2010, 11:55 PM
They actually do get to still celebrate because that year the Pats went 18-1.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on October 5, 2010, 08:34 PM
Sounds like the Pats are looking at trading Moss back to the Vikings
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on October 5, 2010, 09:59 PM
Sounds like the Pats are looking at trading Moss back to the Vikings
I hope this gets done, I am still pissed they traded him in the first place...that never should have happened.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 5, 2010, 10:21 PM
Hey, will he re-grow the fro and make my McFarlane figure relevant again?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 5, 2010, 10:31 PM
Can Favre even get him the ball?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 5, 2010, 10:47 PM
Can Favre even get him the ball?

Yeah, that might be relevant. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on October 6, 2010, 06:58 AM
I watched the Monday Night game and I have to say I think Woodhead is my new favorite player.  :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on October 6, 2010, 09:30 AM
(http://www.collegecharlie.com/p1_moss_moon_all.jpeg)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 6, 2010, 09:32 AM
KInd of cool that he will end his career where it began.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on October 6, 2010, 10:41 AM
KInd of cool that he will end his career where it began.

Only if this deal includes a contract extension.  He's in the last year of his current deal.  Any word on that?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on October 6, 2010, 11:13 AM
I think with the impending lockout, any talk of an extension is not going to happen.  Just gives SuperFreak more motivation...plus the Vikes have more contracts they need to extend (Peterson, Rice, all 3 LBs etc)

I am beyond excited right now...Favre has not lost anything and the Vikes are back as favorites in the NFC IMO
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 6, 2010, 11:22 AM
Favre has not lost anything

That jury is still out.  He's looked like crap thus far.  Moss will definitely help, even if he just opens up more running room for Peterson, but I'm still waiting for a breakout game from Favre to show that he's still got his mojo.  Any word on whether Randy will play in the Monday night game?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on October 6, 2010, 11:36 AM
Any word on whether Randy will play in the Monday night game?

Yes, he will
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: John C on October 6, 2010, 01:52 PM
Favre had a slow start last year, too.  The Vikes were just lucky they played the Browns and Lions the first two games.  The rust should be knocked off and now he has Moss to throw to.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on October 10, 2010, 09:14 PM
The Cowboys are done and on their way to 1-15. 

Fire Wade, Fire Garrett and cut Tony Romo.  It is time to see what the 3rd string QB has.   Some people think there won't be Football next season.  I think the Cowboys got a jump start on that.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: P-Siddy on October 10, 2010, 10:15 PM
It's nice to see the 'boys and the Saints lose.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 10, 2010, 10:20 PM
What the hell happened to the Saints?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on October 10, 2010, 10:30 PM
Meanwhile, the Bucs are 3-1.  It's a mirage though... they're not that good, the Saints aren't that bad, and the Cowboys probably are that bad, but could still beat the Bucs.

I think that's what I think.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 11, 2010, 12:15 AM
The Giants looked good....hope they can keep it going.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on October 11, 2010, 08:33 AM
The Bears game may have been the worst game in the history of the NFL
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on October 17, 2010, 07:58 PM
Vikes squeaked one out while the Bears and Pack lost...right back in the thick of things while heading to GB next week
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on October 17, 2010, 08:03 PM
I'm just glad my Pick 'Em team is doing better than my Fantasy team. :D

Oh, fire Wade, yadda yadda yadda. Don't really care anymore, the Texans are my new fav team. Just wish their D was better.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on October 17, 2010, 10:39 PM

Oh, fire Wade, yadda yadda yadda. Don't really care anymore....

What he said.

Cancel the season, I have already stopped caring about football all together (see college thread for my that is dead to me too).

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on October 26, 2010, 08:45 AM
Funniest thing on the news today comes from the Weatherman on the local Fox station....

"About the Cowboys, the Rangers went to the World Series after Tom Hicks sold them, I'm just sayin."

I am not usually a Jerry Hater but if he does not treat Wade to the "Tom Landry" treatment pretty soon, I might have to sell this highly lucrative website, just to buy the team myself.

After Romo's injury last night the team quit (well those that had not quit several games ago).  With the Panthers win on Sunday...Dallas has a good chance of getting that #1 draft pick.  Of course next year will have no football because of the Player Strike, but Dallas will hopefully get the QB of the future.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 26, 2010, 10:31 AM
I don't think Romo is the problem.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on October 26, 2010, 01:20 PM
I hope the Cowboys draft another WR in the first round! ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 26, 2010, 02:39 PM
Vikes squeaked one out while the Bears and Pack lost...right back in the thick of things while heading to GB next week

And now the Vikes are right back in the thick of getting an early draft pick next Spring.  Fantastic game on Sunday night - at least it was close for both sides right up until the end.  Now the Packers just need to get healthy and pass up the Bears.

Go Packers! Go Packers! Go Packers Go Go!
Go Packers! Go Packers! Goooo Packers Go!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 26, 2010, 04:20 PM
Bah.  Shiancoe's TD should have counted.   :-*
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on October 27, 2010, 09:27 AM
Yep, and there is no way the Vikes or Bears win that ****** division.

The Bears can't produce a yard on offense and the Vikes, well, they're just stupid.  Favre is a disaster and Moss is just a decoy for Percy.  Which would be fine if I didn't have him on one of my FF teams.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 27, 2010, 06:49 PM
Bah.  Shiancoe's TD should have counted.   :-*

Meh - Jackson's run at the end should have been a first down too.  Shoulda woulda coulda...fact is it didn't.  Best hope for the Vikes right now is T-Jack.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on October 27, 2010, 07:00 PM
Typical Packer fan...can't tell the difference between a first down and a touchdown.   :-*
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on October 27, 2010, 09:24 PM
Typical Packer fan...can't tell the difference between a first down and a touchdown.   :-*

You'd think I would know the difference, what with the Pack dropping four of them on the Vikes.   ;D
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on October 28, 2010, 07:09 AM
When they wouldn't shut up about the leading with your head, etc. stuff last week, Steve Young mentioned how bad the QBs in the NFL are nowadays. I hadn't thought about that, but he is right. Maybe it's time for me to accept the Vikings are going to have to be like most teams and try and win with a mediocre QB.

I said mediocre though so T Jack who is in the suck category doesn't count.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 1, 2010, 08:52 AM
I have never been a McNabb fan, but "Grossman knows the 2 minute offense better" is one of the weirdest decisions/excuses I've ever heard especially from a Super Bowl Champion coach.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: EdSolo on November 1, 2010, 09:06 AM
I have never been a McNabb fan, but "Grossman knows the 2 minute offense better" is one of the weirdest decisions/excuses I've ever heard especially from a Super Bowl Champion coach.

Especially since he completely boned it on the very first play he was in the game.  McNabb had been throwing some weak passes, and did lose the game with the pick he shouldn't have thrown.  The announcers were speculating that McNabb was injured because they couldn't think of any reason to bench him.  With all the close games Detroit has had this year, I figured the Skins would be the ones to finally choke against them.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2010, 10:54 AM
Agreed.  That two-minute drill is EXACTLY WHY YOU TRADED FOR DONOVAN MCNABB.  I love seeing the Redskins suffer, but there has to be another reason Shananahanahana did that.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: P-Siddy on November 1, 2010, 02:09 PM
At least the Vikings' season is supposed to be easier now.  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Mikey D on November 1, 2010, 03:18 PM
At least the Vikings' season is supposed to be easier now.  ::)

Without Randy Moss (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/01/report-vikings-waive-randy-moss/)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 1, 2010, 03:24 PM
Does any other team want any free third round picks? Bueller?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on November 1, 2010, 04:07 PM
Sweet, another WR for Jerry Jones to pick up.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: P-Siddy on November 1, 2010, 04:16 PM
Wow. Bad season gone to worse. The Vikes only have him for 2 games and dump him. Rarely ever used the guy either. How many receptions did Randy get? And then the lame quarterback to go with it as well.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2010, 04:43 PM
Why on earth would the Patriots and Vikings both be in a hurry to get rid of him?

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 1, 2010, 05:03 PM
Have you seen him play this year?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jayson on November 1, 2010, 05:04 PM
Why on earth would the Patriots and Vikings both be in a hurry to get rid of him?



He's an insubordinate prick, with a big mouth on the tail end of his career. His salary isn't worth the hassle anymore. (Vikings should fired Childress while they're at it.)

Those 2010 jerseys should fetch a decent price on the secondary market.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 3, 2010, 06:38 PM
Looks like Moss is headed to Tennessee.   :-\

I get that he's lazy and frankly, not a very good human being.  That said, when he's mediocre, he's still producing about as well as many teams' #1 guy.  And even when he doesn't produce, he draws off the top defender (or two) to free up other areas of the field.  Look at Harvin's production since Moss has been here, and I'm sure AP enjoyed some added freedom as well.

Frankly, I don't get just releasing the guy.  Fine him, suspend him, have a good talking out with him, but don't release him.  Heck, even try to trade him, then release him if you get no bites!  The guy still has some relative value, so I think just letting him go further proves what an awful coach Chilly is. 

On top of that, I really don't understand what Moss did wrong regarding his speech to the press.  All the quotes and soundbites I heard were pro Patriots - I didn't hear anything negative about Chily or the Vikes other than "I wish we had gone for 3" and "I wish the coaches had listend to me more when forming the game plan."  Um...the Vikings lost, so maybe they should have listened to him more!  Sorry Viking fans - I love to root against you, but I actually feel sorry for anyone who has to endure this kind of ridiculous impotence.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 3, 2010, 11:07 PM
The problem with the speech was exactly that.  It was a speech.  The players are supposed to field questions from the press and provide answers.

And he ain't the same Moss he used to be.  He completely gave up on that pass interference call - he could have caught that ball for a TD.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 4, 2010, 07:06 AM
Moss is a prick, but Chilly is a moron. I just don't see the downside to having kept Moss longer. I don't buy he was such a cancer that the Vikes couldn't have dealt with him longer. He only could have helped us as far as I'm concerned and if he really would have hurt the team then that shows how bad Chilly is. Stupid Vikings. You're killing me.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 4, 2010, 09:20 AM
He's a good decoy.  That is all.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on November 4, 2010, 10:24 AM
He's a good decoy.  That is all.

Only 7 WR's in the league have more TD's than he does this year.  Not bad for a decoy-only kind of guy.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 4, 2010, 10:56 AM
What about yards and targets?  Receptions?

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on November 4, 2010, 11:29 AM
What about yards and targets?  Receptions?



What about 'em?  He said that Moss is nothing more than a decoy, I countered that he also scores touchdowns.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 4, 2010, 02:49 PM
Fine.

He's a decoy who has scored five TD's in nine weeks for three teams.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on November 4, 2010, 03:28 PM
Fine.

He's a decoy who has scored five TD's in nine weeks for three teams.

Well, 8 games... but who's counting?

He's on pace for a 10 TD season.  Not up to his standard, but better than most.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 4, 2010, 04:03 PM
My statement holds true.

Through nine weeks he's scored 5 TD's and has 300 yards.  The number one receiver in the league has almost 900 yards.  He was shut out for nearly two full games.

Yeah, he's on pace for 10 TD's but also a mere 600 yards.  Half of last year's production with regards to yardage?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on November 4, 2010, 04:15 PM
I haven't argued with you about his numbers being way down from what he usually does.  I'm juts saying that he's still finding the end zone at a pretty solid clip.  9 weeks... either way you want to word it he's half way through a season and has 5 TD's.  There are lots of teams that could use that kind of production, and he landed with one.  I'm not saying he's going to go become 2006 Randy Moss after the Titan's bye, but he can still be much more than a decoy if he decides to.

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 4, 2010, 05:33 PM
It's all good brah.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on November 4, 2010, 07:53 PM
I think it boils down to whether he's willing to A) play for you and not dog it, and B) whether he's going to become a distraction and mouthy.  If he's going to do A, and not B, then I think he's great to have around.  Just my take on him.

He's certainly more appealing to a team who feels their receiver corps is weak and not looking to improve anytime soon though.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on November 4, 2010, 08:28 PM
I'd agree there Jesse.  He, like T.O. is pretty much bipolar and a crapshoot as to which version you end up getting.  If you get the good, as you say, it's awesome.  Other side of the coin, obviously not so much.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 5, 2010, 12:37 AM
I think people let their emotions get the better of them on the Moss issue.  I don't know of anyone that really thinks he is a good guy or even likes him really.  He's a moron, a show-off, lazy,...I'd agree with all of that.  But I have yet to hear a compelling arguement why the Vikings were right in letting him go.  At best, he has 5 TDs in 8 games & provides a realistic downfield threat.  At worst, he can draw off defenders to make room for the running game and guys like Harvin.  Hate the guy all you want, the Vikings were a better team with him than without him.  

Just seems like such a total waste to lose a 3rd rounder for him, then dump him in a hissy fit because he gave kudos to the Patriots.  Add to this that Chilly won't talk about it, didn't check with the owner first, told his team then hid from the press, so they could get the awkward questions...what a circus.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on November 5, 2010, 09:57 AM
Justin I completely agree with you on all of that stuff.  I actually enjoy watching Moss play and he's had a mostly stellar career.  He's just a head case is all. 

As for the Vikings.  Yeah.  Dumb.  Not much question in my mind at this moment particularly how they handled the Moss situation.  I'd carry it further to how they handled the draft and Favre earlier in the year too.  I get they wanted Favre back, looking for last year's magic.  That's ok, I guess I was hoping for that too.  But I'm still baffled as to why they didn't get a good rookie QB in the draft?  I don't see TJ as the future of that franchise at QB and I'm pretty sure the Vikings don't either.  Now I understand the mentality for this year was to go for it, win it all with Favre, Peterson, Rice, Harvin but it would seem that won't happen due to injuries and Favre being old.  If Moss' only value was to make room for Harvin, that was a clear win for the team.  But I don't see Moss tolerating that, even to get a ring.  So very frustrating to be a Vikings fan.  :-\
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 5, 2010, 09:58 AM
Brilliant last two posts
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on November 5, 2010, 11:23 AM
As a life long Vikings fan, my fandom is probably at its lowest point ever this week.  I have always and continue to always hate Childress.  I cannot and will not support him as a coach.  I was absolutely pissed the year Tomlin left for the Steelers and we were left with Mr Noodle...that said...Moss had to have broken a major team rule to get kicked off the team and I really don't think Childress had any choice but cut him. 

I've heard rumors the best one being that players request to stay in away cities after games (family there, home there, like the town etc) and 100% of the time Chilly says no, you are coming home with the team.  In theory, Moss asked to stay in Boston after the game and Childress said no.  He didn't show up for the plane ride back infuriating the coach and that was it...

How Childress handled it was terrible...but he had to have a major reason

My only bright spot is that the moron loses his job over this and we get a new regime in here.  One not tied to Jackson and can clean house and we start over, because that is where we are at IMO.

I actually thought of giving up on them completely...I am serious of being a low point in fandom.  I could see myself easily becoming a fan of one of the AFC dynasties (Steelers, Colts, Patriots etc...)  Ugh :'(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on November 5, 2010, 12:57 PM
Try being a Bears fan.  At least you have AP.

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on November 8, 2010, 03:19 PM
And so... rumor has it Wade Phillips is now unemployed. 

The happiest man in D/FW has to be Wade Phillips.

So Jason Garrett gets the keys to the Titanic for the next 8 weeks.

I'd love Gruden or Cowher, but neither seem to be the "Yes man" that is required for the job. I have not been a Jerry Jones hater in the past, but Jerry Jones the GM needs to go. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on November 8, 2010, 03:27 PM
Cowher's far from a yes man, but he'd clean **** up in Dallas if given the job unobstructed.  People were visibly distraught when he left Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on November 8, 2010, 04:07 PM
Cowher's the guy I wanted coaching the Bucs next year - but with Raheem's 5-3 start (with winnable games against Carolina and San Fransisco coming up, I think he'll be sticking around a little longer.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jeff on November 8, 2010, 04:11 PM
Here in MN, the local sports radio guys are in love with someone new every day - Cowher, Dungy, Parcells, Gruden, Johnson - you name a coach with super bowl success and he's been "rumored" to be 'interested' in the not-quite-vacant-yet Vikings head coaching job in the last two weeks.   ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on November 8, 2010, 08:19 PM
Why do I have a feeling that Brad Childress is coming to Dallas?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 9, 2010, 10:35 AM
What I've learned this season is the Vikings need to find a rapist or a dog murderer for a QB and then they should be good to go. Sexual harassment just isn't enough. Go Vikes!!!!!!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on November 9, 2010, 10:44 AM
Why do I have a feeling that Brad Childress is coming to Dallas?

No way... Jerry wants someone with a pedigree.  Childress has none of that and from what i gather, his players hate him.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on November 9, 2010, 12:28 PM
Why do I have a feeling that Brad Childress is coming to Dallas?

No way... Jerry wants someone with a pedigree.  Childress has none of that and from what i gather, his players hate him.

I was actually hoping for a Vikings loss on the weekend to be honest.  Then maybe they'd have fired Childress. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 21, 2010, 09:15 AM
I was actually hoping for a Vikings loss on the weekend to be honest.  Then maybe they'd have fired Childress. 

How about hoping for that loss this week?  GO PACK GO!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: P-Siddy on November 21, 2010, 10:18 AM
What I've learned this season is the Vikings need to find a rapist or a dog murderer for a QB and then they should be good to go. Sexual harassment just isn't enough. Go Vikes!!!!!!

Doesn't matter. We just let go of a WR who took a cop for a ride on the hood of his car.

As for Vick, he did his time for his crime. Forgive and forget.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 21, 2010, 10:39 AM
What I've learned this season is the Vikings need to find a rapist or a dog murderer for a QB and then they should be good to go. Sexual harassment just isn't enough. Go Vikes!!!!!!

Doesn't matter. We just let go of a WR who took a cop for a ride on the hood of his car.

As for Vick, he did his time for his crime. Forgive and forget.

Forget? NEVER. I don't care what he does on the field.

Forgive? I'm trying my hardest. I want to see in his mind and know he is really sorry for what he did and realizes how horrible it was. I know I can't so I'm trying to forgive on faith.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on November 21, 2010, 01:38 PM
I was actually hoping for a Vikings loss on the weekend to be honest.  Then maybe they'd have fired Childress. 

How about hoping for that loss this week?  GO PACK GO!

If they fire Childress following a loss to the Pack then I'm supportive.  Gerhart just fumbled so maybe that'll help.   ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 22, 2010, 12:03 AM
31-3?  Cripes.  I was even rooting for the Vikes to do something by the 4th quarter.  That was ugly.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on November 22, 2010, 07:02 AM
The Minneota Vikings: The next five years' Detroit Lions.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 22, 2010, 08:40 AM
The Minneota Vikings: The next five years' Detroit Lions.

You're assuming only 5 five years if Childress gets fired, right?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on November 22, 2010, 08:43 AM
Wow 2 wins in a row for the Cowboys.  

I'm happy for Kitna, but dang it, I really wanted a top 5 draft pick, just to watch Jerry trade it away for Magic Beans or Randy Moss.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on November 22, 2010, 10:44 AM
Wow 2 wins in a row for the Cowboys.  

I'm happy for Kitna, but dang it, I really wanted a top 5 draft pick, just to watch Jerry trade it away for Magic Beans or Randy Moss.

I hear you can still get Randy this year for a third rounder...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on November 22, 2010, 01:24 PM
Yay and goodbye (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Long-time-coming-Vikings-fire-Childress-Frazie;_ylt=AgI4SQf55uve7Qpxhk187NpDubYF?urn=nfl-288111). 

Now my main gripe with the Vikes remains why they didn't get another QB in last year's draft.  Tavaris just ain't it. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on November 22, 2010, 09:27 PM
I'm happy for Kitna, but dang it, I really wanted a top 5 draft pick, just to watch Jerry trade it away for Magic Beans or Randy Moss.

This made me laugh.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on December 6, 2010, 05:39 PM
Seriously..... so if Jerry would have fired Wade (and broken Over-rated-Romo's shoulder) 3 weeks earlier, would Dallas still be playing this good and perhaps in the playoff hunt?  Yes, I realize that they didn't beat the Colts, the Colts beat themselves, but still, that was fun to watch.  Especially going in thinking Peyton Manning was going to set Season Records in a single game against the Dallas defense.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on December 6, 2010, 05:46 PM
Seriously..... so if Jerry would have fired Wade (and broken Over-rated-Romo's shoulder) 3 weeks earlier, would Dallas still be playing this good and perhaps in the playoff hunt?  Yes, I realize that they didn't beat the Colts, the Colts beat themselves, but still, that was fun to watch.  Especially going in thinking Peyton Manning was going to set Season Records in a single game against the Dallas defense.

Who cares?  I think the majority of us prefer a reality where Dallas has no hope of making the playoffs.   >:D

If you want to play what if, then I'd be more interested in whether or not the Vikes would be in the hunt had Childress been fired sooner. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on December 6, 2010, 08:21 PM
Wilf wanted to get rid of him after the NE game and should have...I am not totally sold on Frazier yet...but I do like how the D has been playing and how they have been giving the ball to AP
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 7, 2010, 12:07 PM
Odd that they were saying that firing a coach mid-season is a rare thing....and this year it's happened to three of them.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on December 12, 2010, 11:36 AM
Metrodome roof caves in from snow?

What the hell is that thing made of?   ???
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on December 12, 2010, 12:55 PM
Fabric coated w/ teflon blown up with air
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on December 12, 2010, 12:58 PM
On the bright side, we now have two options to watch on Monday night AND Fox is airing the Packer game now.  Woo woo!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 12, 2010, 01:11 PM
My DirecTv guide shows we were getting the Giants game today.  We most likely won't get to see it tomorrow night.  This also makes it tougher for the Giants to win against Philidelphia next week.

******' cheap ass stadium roof.   >:(
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on December 13, 2010, 12:03 AM
Well, it's Minnesota...  Who honestly expects it to snow much, ya know?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 13, 2010, 12:31 AM
I just have a hard time believing someone thought making your stadium half bouncy castle was a good idea.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on December 13, 2010, 01:29 PM
I guess it was hard to see coming given this:

"According to the Metrodome Web site, the roof has collapsed before. It happened just 48 days after the roof was first inflated in 1981. Wet, heavy snow was the cause then, too. The stadium was completed in 1982."

Another disaster straight out of nowhere with no warning whatsoever.  They are lucky people weren't killed.

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jeff on December 13, 2010, 02:16 PM
Actually, I think this is the fourth time the roof has malfunctioned due to snow accumulation

In addition to the 1981 incident, another mega-snowstorm in Dec-1982 caused the roof to collapse.  And then, the next spring (1983) snow caused another cave in that postponed an April Twins' game.  Those two incidents lead to a redesign of the roof and new process for clearing snow, one that worked very well until this past weekend.

The real issue over the weekend was the wind.  The high winds forced clean-up crews off the roof, which allowed the snow to accumulate.  If not for the winds, the crews might have been able to use high-pressure hot water hoses to clean the roof, which is what they normally do to avoid the snow accumulation.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on December 13, 2010, 06:04 PM
I was actually at a Twins game in 85 or 86 where the roof started to collapse during a thunderstorm.  They were playing the Angels, we were sitting in Left Field and to this day I can remember the look of fear in the left fielders face as the roof started bouncing up and down.  My sister booked it up the stairs and was almost lost in the ensuing pandemonium...

It didn't collapse but part of the fabric was hanging down.  Fun times!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 16, 2010, 08:45 AM
Some of the Vikings are worried the cold hard TCF Bank field may hurt them.

GROW A SET!!!!!!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2011, 06:07 PM
NFC

Eagles over Packers
Saints over Seahawks

Falcons over Saints
Eagles over Bears

Falcons over Eagles

AFC

Ravens over Chiefs
Colts over Jets

Patriots over Ravens
Steelers over Colts

Steelers over Patriots

SUPER BOWL

Steelers over Falcons
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on January 4, 2011, 06:53 PM
NFC

Packers (6) over Eagles (3)
Saints (5) over Seahawks (4)

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)
Bears (2) over Saints (5)

Bears (2) over Packers (5)

AFC

Ravens (5) over Chiefs (4)
Colts (3) over Jets (6)

Patriots (1) over Ravens (5)
Colts (3) over Steelers (2)

Patriots (1) over Colts (3)

SUPER BOWL

Patriots (1) over Bears (2)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on January 4, 2011, 06:58 PM
There is no way in hell Jay Cutler makes it to a Super Bowl...dude is the definition of mental
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on January 4, 2011, 07:02 PM
There is no way in hell Jay Cutler makes it to a Super Bowl...dude is the definition of mental

I didn't really start that scenario thinking that I'd pick the Bears to go that far, but I like their defense after watching them last week, and I think the Falcons are overrated.  Once I picked the Packers to beat the Falcons, that left the Bears with HFA and I don't think they'll lose at home. 

I really only like doing these picks week to week... but I figured I'd play along for the hell of it.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on January 4, 2011, 10:22 PM
NFC

Packers (6) over Eagles (3)
Saints (5) over Seahawks (4)

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)
Saints (5) over Bears (2)

Packers (6) over Saints (5)

AFC

Chiefs (4) over Ravens (5)
Colts (3) over Jets (6)

Patriots (1) over Chiefs (4)
Steelers (2) over Colts (3)

Patriots (1) over Steelers (2)

SUPER BOWL

Patriots (1) over Packers (5)

I actually think it will be Patriots vs. Falcons in the big game, but a guy can dream...
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on January 14, 2011, 09:13 AM
Did anyone else hear Welker's "foot" interview? That was ingenious.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on January 14, 2011, 10:24 AM
Updated:

NFC

Packers (6) over Eagles (3)
Saints (5) over Seahawks (4)

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)
Bears (2) over Saints (5)

Bears (2) over Packers (5)

AFC

Ravens (5) over Chiefs (4)
Colts (3) over Jets (6)

Patriots (1) over Ravens (5)
Colts (3) over Steelers (2)

Patriots (1) over Colts (3)

SUPER BOWL

Patriots (1) over Bears (2)


NFC

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)
Bears (2) over Seahawks (4)

Bears (2) over Packers (5)

AFC

Patriots (1) over Jets (6)
Steelers (2) over Ravens (5)

Patriots (1) over Steelers (3)

SUPER BOWL

Patriots (1) over Bears (2)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: ruiner on January 14, 2011, 10:32 AM
Repeat of Super Bowl XX? 

I like it.

But yeah, this time it's the Bears who get their ass handed to them.

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on January 14, 2011, 03:41 PM
Wow, 1-3 so far.  AT least I put the smart money on the Seahawks to win in my office pool.  Updated...

NFC

Packers (6) over Eagles (3)   RIGHT
Saints (5) over Seahawks (4)   WRONG

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)  RIGHT
Bears (2) over Seahawks (4)  RIGHT

Packers (6) over Bears (2)

AFC

Chiefs (4) over Ravens (5)  WRONG
Colts (3) over Jets (6)  WRONG

Patriots (1) over Jets (6)  WRONG
Steelers (2) over Ravens (5)   RIGHT

Steelers (2) over Jets (6)

SUPER BOWL

Packers (6) over Steelers (2)

GO PACK GO!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on January 15, 2011, 11:45 PM
Wow, I was hoping the Packers would sneak past the Falcons, not embarrass them!  What a game.  Off to the NFC Championship.  WOOHOO!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on January 16, 2011, 10:59 AM
Wow, I was hoping the Packers would sneak past the Falcons, not embarrass them! 

Same here, but I hate Atlanta and probably had as much fun watching that game as your average Packer fan did.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: P-Siddy on January 16, 2011, 10:03 PM
I'm glad I didn't put any money on these playoffs. I would have been in a masssive hole right now. So I think I won't say I'm rooting for the team I want to win, otherwise they'll lose.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on January 16, 2011, 10:15 PM
I'm glad I didn't put any money on these playoffs. I would have been in a masssive hole right now. So I think I won't say I'm rooting for the team I want to win, otherwise they'll lose.

Its okay Steve, at this point we are all rooting for the Packers to win.   ;D
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 16, 2011, 10:58 PM
What an awesome win by the Jets!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on January 16, 2011, 11:49 PM
I'm glad I didn't put any money on these playoffs. I would have been in a masssive hole right now. So I think I won't say I'm rooting for the team I want to win, otherwise they'll lose.

Its okay Steve, at this point we are all rooting for the Packers to win.   ;D

Bzzzzzzt.  Wrong again! :)

And that was an impressive win for the Jets, though they were looking like swiss cheese there towards the end too, so that was pretty tense.  You figure that the first on-side kick goes the other way, and things could've easily gone the other way.  Really good football games this week.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: P-Siddy on January 17, 2011, 11:59 AM
Do you want me to root for the Packers? They'll lose. (just going by my record, not they're playing)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on January 17, 2011, 12:38 PM
Do you want me to root for the Packers? They'll lose. (just going by my record, not they're playing)

I do not want to you to hex the Packers, but how can you not root for America's team?  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Morgbug on January 17, 2011, 01:18 PM
Do you want me to root for the Packers? They'll lose. (just going by my record, not they're playing)

I do not want to you to hex the Packers, but how can you not root for America's team?  ;)

The Cowboys are still in the playoffs?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on January 17, 2011, 02:14 PM
Silly Canadian.

America's Team
Not the Dallas Cowboys, but the Green Bay Packers as many people believe. First off, the Packers are not owned by a single person, but the city of Green Bay and the stockholders. They are the only professional team to have this financial setup. The Cowboys, however, are owned by a redneck retard. Secondly, the Packers have 12 NFL championships, three of which were Super Bowls (I, II, and XXXI). Also, the Packers have won three consecutive championships not once, but twice, once with Lambeau and once with Lombardi. The reason that the Packers aren't recognized for these feats are because many people, including the sports writers on ESPN, don't recognize the NFL championships won before the Super Bowl era. The Dallas Cowboys, however, have only won 5 NFL championships. Lastly, the Packers have been in existence since 1919, joining the NFL in 1921, and the Cowboys have only been in existence since 1960. So in conclusion, the Packers are the real America's Team because they represent humble beginnings, small town America, small town success, the caring support of a community, perseverance, the team owned and for the people, and the American Dream. The Cowboys, on the other hand, represent corporate America as a whole. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/products.php?txtid=959669)

Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: P-Siddy on January 17, 2011, 04:02 PM
Do you want me to root for the Packers? They'll lose. (just going by my record, not they're playing)

I do not want to you to hex the Packers, but how can you not root for America's team?  ;)

The Cowboys are still in the playoffs?

Isn't that the Yankees (yes, wrong sport)?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on January 18, 2011, 06:35 PM
I'm pulling for the Jets and the Packers, just because I want to call the Super Bowl the "Favre's Sloppy Seconds Bowl"
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: P-Siddy on January 18, 2011, 07:34 PM
For that to happen, wouldn't it have to be Vikes vs Jets?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on January 18, 2011, 11:21 PM
I'm pulling for the Jets and the Packers, just because I want to call the Super Bowl the "Favre's Sloppy Seconds Bowl"

Yeah, that's wrong on a couple of different levels.  I want it to be Packers vs. Jets because the Packers already know how to shut down the Jets.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on January 23, 2011, 11:27 AM
Updated:

NFC

Packers (6) over Eagles (3)
Saints (5) over Seahawks (4)

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)
Bears (2) over Saints (5)

Bears (2) over Packers (5)

AFC

Ravens (5) over Chiefs (4)
Colts (3) over Jets (6)

Patriots (1) over Ravens (5)
Colts (3) over Steelers (2)

Patriots (1) over Colts (3)

SUPER BOWL

Patriots (1) over Bears (2)


NFC

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)
Bears (2) over Seahawks (4)

AFC

Patriots (1) over Jets (6)
Steelers (2) over Ravens (5)


Packers (5) over Bears (2)

Steelers (2) over Jets (6)


SUPER BOWL

Packers (5) over Steelers (2)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on January 23, 2011, 07:55 PM
There is no way in hell Jay Cutler makes it to a Super Bowl...dude is the definition of mental
;)

Obviously I want the AFC to win and I am firmly behind the Steelers :-*
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on January 23, 2011, 08:31 PM
You called it.  He was good last week but never seemed into this game... even before he 'hurt' his knee.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 23, 2011, 10:32 PM
Man...I thought the Jets were going to pull that one out.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on January 24, 2011, 01:56 AM
Packers win the NFC and are going to the Superbowl... WOOHOO!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on January 24, 2011, 09:43 AM
cutler (v) ..
1. To half ass things
2. To not care
3. To let your team down at the biggest game of the year
4. To stare off into space like a moron
5. When used in a sentence...Dude, did you see Steve at work today. He really went cutler on that sales deal.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 6, 2011, 05:54 PM
Okay Packers, here we go.  Let's bring home another Lombardi!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2011, 10:12 PM
That was a good game...  I'm disappointed, but the Steelers played great for a team that's basically patchworked together on the offensive line and in the secondary, though I think some of the play calling was dismal too (particularly the first two turnover plays).  I was honestly surprised they even made it to the Superbowl though, I didn't have a lot of expectations for that when things started this season. 

The Packers played great, Rodgers was pretty good, and the turnovers wound up being huge.  Hard to hate Greenbay too...  They were cool to play against and I like their team's style obviously since it's so similar.  If there's a season next year I think both teams will do well if they're healthy.  It was a good game.

I'm still disappointed, but I've seen 2 Super Bow losses and 2 wins now as an adult.  I can't really sit and pout over that.  Way to go Packers.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on February 6, 2011, 11:21 PM
Assuming there is a next year
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2011, 11:34 PM
Yeah, next season should've been my wording on that one, haha. :)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Diddly on February 7, 2011, 01:00 AM
Great game. Loved the near comeback by the Steelers (even though I was sorta rooting for Green Bay) and it was close until the very end. Turnovers basically killed the Steelers, although the Packers were sputtering on offense for a while there. At least Green Bay can finally wipe the Favre stink from their shoes.

Awful Halftime Show and commercials though. The commercials weren't bad, just dull. I did enjoy the movie trailers, the little kid dressed as Vader, and the Doritos (finger-licker guy and the Doritos crumbs that restore life). Everything else was just unforgettable. What was up with all the Eminem? Worst Halftime Show ever? Fergie was obviously wasted and I thought she was about to go down on Slash.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 7, 2011, 01:44 PM
What a terrific game.  Those turnovers made all the difference.  I didn't understand the Packers deferring after the coin toss, but that completely worked in their favor as well.  If you can get out to a lead early AND start with the ball in the second half, you're going to be in a better position to win it.  I think if the Steelers had gotten points off that first series though it would have been a very different game.  Thrilling to the end and obviously I'm happy with the win!

Halftime show and commercials were definitely so-so this year.  I liked the Vader-kid commercial and the ad for the new Volkswagon Bug, but I had seen those before.  The Doritos ad where the guy is asking for everyone's leftovers was the only really memorable one for me.  I thought the Black Eyed Peas were okay.  Not my favorite band, but the lights and choreography were cool to watch. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on February 7, 2011, 02:14 PM
What a terrific game.  Those turnovers made all the difference.  I didn't understand the Packers deferring after the coin toss, but that completely worked in their favor as well.  If you can get out to a lead early AND start with the ball in the second half, you're going to be in a better position to win it.  I think if the Steelers had gotten points off that first series though it would have been a very different game.  Thrilling to the end and obviously I'm happy with the win!

I'm certainly no head coach, but if I was one, and I had confidence in my defense, I'd defer regularly - especially in the Superbowl, where nerves are bound to be an issue particularly at the beginning of the game. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2011, 04:36 PM
Yeah the Steelers deferred a lot in the regular season and it sometimes looked like a stroke of genius, and other times it just looked like a good enough idea.  It's really a defensive move though.

The ads were horrible this year, and really the only one I or anyone else at my place remembered was the Vader Kid...  And not even cause the Star Wars theme of it.  It was just funny.  I thought most of them were dismal.  I didn't pay attention to the half-time show much other than I love looking at sex machine Fergie.

I didn't watch the Vader kid commercial, but knew there was something with VW and SW going to go on, so I was kind of surprised by it and how funny it was.  It was like avoiding spoilers before a prequal.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on February 7, 2011, 05:14 PM
Updated:

NFC
Packers (6) over Eagles (3)
Saints (5) over Seahawks (4)

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)
Bears (2) over Saints (5)

Bears (2) over Packers (5)

AFC

Ravens (5) over Chiefs (4)
Colts (3) over Jets (6)

Patriots (1) over Ravens (5)
Colts (3) over Steelers (2)

Patriots (1) over Colts (3)

SUPER BOWL

Patriots (1) over Bears (2)


NFC

Packers (6) over Falcons (1)
Bears (2) over Seahawks (4)

AFC

Patriots (1) over Jets (6)
Steelers (2) over Ravens (5)


Packers (5) over Bears (2)

Steelers (2) over Jets (6)


SUPER BOWL

Packers (5) over Steelers (2)

Respectable.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2011, 07:49 PM
You'd have done well if you put money down Rob.  Hope you made a little bit along the way.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Paul on February 7, 2011, 09:32 PM
Ok I am sure I am in the minority here, but can we stop with the useless " concert" at halftime?  I don't think I've heard a blacked eyes pee song before and after that 30 minute off key yell festival, I think I'll be ok if I never hear them again.

Let's go back to marching bands or monkeys riding collies while herding sheep.  30 minutes of test signal would have been better to look at and sounded about the same.

The sad thing is about the only part of the game I got to see was halftime plus the second half kick off.  So I may be bitter. 

Oddly now that the "Northern Invaders" are gone, the sun is back out and it is 50 degrees. 
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2011, 09:46 PM
That's funny about the weather. :)

I'd be content if they just had Fergie do jumping jacks in a spandex mini-dress for the entire halftime.  I might even enjoy seeing it extended.

Unless you were being sarcastic and I missed it, I doubt you're anywhere in the minority if you want the Half-time either shortened, changed completely, or both.  I personally dig that old stock B&W footage of cats boxing.  I'd put that in for the time and just loop it if it doesn't fill the entire half-time.

The half is boring at every level of football to me.  From instructional all the way to the pros, I just am disinterested.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on February 7, 2011, 10:28 PM
Ok I am sure I am in the minority here, but can we stop with the useless " concert" at halftime?  I don't think I've heard a blacked eyes pee song before and after that 30 minute off key yell festival, I think I'll be ok if I never hear them again.

I used to listen to the Black Eyed Peas... It's been downhill for them for about 5 years now (although they get more and more famous).

And Fergie sucks.

That is all.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2011, 11:22 PM

And Fergie sucks.

That is all.

With that body I imagine she'll go several stages beyond sucking.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Neal on February 8, 2011, 09:51 AM

And Fergie sucks.

That is all.

With that body I imagine she'll go several stages beyond sucking.

She does have a great body, but she has gigantic man-hands and her face is busted as hell.  She kind of looks like a tranny.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on February 8, 2011, 04:32 PM
Can I say what an absolute joke it is that Cris Carter is not in the HoF yet?  Plus, he didn't even make it to the next round over a guy like Andre Reed?  That is bull****...Carter is the 2nd best WR ever and it was an absolute joy to watch him week in/week out.  He always gave 110% and caught everything thrown to him, not to mention the career stats.  JOKE
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on February 8, 2011, 09:27 PM
Can't argue with that.  He's' a first-ballot kind of guy.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 9, 2011, 07:07 AM
It's a joke. I get angry every year at this time over it. There is zero logic. I think it's 100% because he wasn't liked by the people who make the decision. To me it makes the NFL look bad by not having him in their HOF.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 9, 2011, 03:03 PM
I think it is a combination of factors.  Carter was a great WR for his time, but his stats are less impressive as the years go on. NFL rules have favored the pass - I think there were almost 20 guys this year alone that surpassed 1,000 yards for the season.  You also need 80% of the vote to get in.  Sounds like some of the WR votes went to Tim Brown and Andre Reed, so I can see how Carter might have hit the majority vote, but still missed the 80% cutoff.

Looking at the guys who did make the cut, I'd be hard pressed to say Carter should have made it in instead of them: Defensive end Richard Dent, running back Marshall Faulk, linebackers Chris Hanburger and Les Richter, cornerback Deion Sanders, and tight end Shannon Sharpe.  Faulk, Sanders, and Sharpe defined their respective positions for the modern age - I'm not sure you can say the same about Carter.   He also doesn't have any Super Bowls under his belt like most of the others.

Very impressive #2 WR, but not a game changer like these guys were. Here's an interesting table to consider.  I saw online that someone had totaled the rankings for Brown, Reed, and Carter in terms of the # of times they ranked within the top ___ WRs over their career:

Top 3Top 5Top 8Top 12Top 20
Brown24569
Reed13459
Carter016910
Carter made the top 12 in most of the years he played, but he was only a top 5 WR one year and never made the top 3 at his position.  I haven't followed Carter's career that closely, but is there something other than being a local hero that qualifies him above these guys or the guys who were just elected?
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 9, 2011, 03:09 PM
He's number two in almost every career WR statistical category to Rice. Or was when he retired, but is still close with all timers only passing him.

How was he a #2 WR? For the Vikings?

I may have misunderstood what you said.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 9, 2011, 03:43 PM
He's number two in almost every career WR statistical category to Rice.

How was he a #2 WR? For the Vikings?

I may have misunderstood what you said.

He played #2 to Randy Moss most of the years I saw him, which is why I refer to him as a #2 or possession receiver.  Not trying to take anyting away from him - that's just where I recall him lining up.  Again, I think he was a great player and I'm sure he'll make it in the HOF someday. 

That said, I don't see how he is #2 to Rice in any statistical category - which ones are you referring to?  Along with the table above, I know that Owens and Moss have 150ish TDs, which is well beyond Carter's 130.  Not sure where others rank, but those guys definitely have more and I think they did it in fewer seasons.  Is he #2 in yardage?  Looks like his yardage is lower than Rice, Moss, Owens, and probably others as well. 

I do recall Carter leading the league for several years in collective amount of bitching and whining to the refs, so maybe he can get in next year based on that stat.  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on February 9, 2011, 03:54 PM
You are wroing Justin, he was their #1 receiver for most of the years he was here (even when Moss was here) Vastly superior to Reed and Brown across the board statistically.  Not sure what that chart means, Carter consitently led the league in TDs and had the NFL record for catches in a season, and kicks both of those guys butts statistacally yearly and career wise

He is still 3rd all time in receptions, 4th all time in receiving TD's, 8th all time in receiving yards and was named to the 1990's all NFL Team 1st Team

I don't disagree that Dent, Faulk, Sanders and Sharpe are also hall of famers, it is a joke though that Cris Carter isn't and didn't even make the 2nd round cut last weekend.  He's a first ballot sort of guy.  PS Super Bowl wins for the HoF is crap (Barry Sanders
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 9, 2011, 04:18 PM
I believe the table is based on yards and TDs relative to other WRs each year, but there's no methodology listed that I can see.  Is there a stat showing Carter consistently led the league in TDs?  I tried finding this online and couldn't.  On a side note, I don't find it very compelling when people just say "he led statistically" then don't throw out statistics to back it up.  Statistically, I'm far better at coming up with statistics than you are.   ;)  I also didn't say Super Bowls were everything - just that they do factor into the equation as evidenced by majority of guys who made it in.

Anyway, my intent wasn't to get the Viking fans in the room all riled up.  I've said a couple of times now that I think he was a great player.  I just think there are some valid points as to why he didn't make the cut this time around.  And realistically, if Reed and Brown hadn't been eligable, he would have definitely made the cut in 2011.  I can easily see where those guys would draw some of the votes though.  I also think there is some merit to him rubbing people the wrong way towards his later years, but I don't have anything other than intuition to back that up.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Scott on February 9, 2011, 04:35 PM
Cris Carter (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CartCr00.htm)
Tim Brown (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowTi00.htm)
Andre Reed (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/ReedAn00.htm)

Scroll down to the bottom for their rescpective accolades

Career Receptions (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rec_career.htm)
Career Reception TDs (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rec_td_career.htm)
Career Reception Yards (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rec_yds_career.htm)

And BTW...I'm more mad that Reed and Brown made it farther in the voting process than CC than him not making it...and double BTW, neither of them won a SB either
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on February 16, 2011, 09:36 AM
It's a loser of an argument Packer-fan.  Carter is absolutely first ballot material despite your recollections of the later part of his career.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 16, 2011, 01:28 PM
It's a loser of an argument Packer-fan.  Carter is absolutely first ballot material despite your recollections of the later part of his career.


Well, you are the expert on loser arguements Rob.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on February 16, 2011, 03:14 PM
It's a loser of an argument Packer-fan.  Carter is absolutely first ballot material despite your recollections of the later part of his career.


Well, you are the expert on loser arguements Rob.


I'll take that as your concession.   ::)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 16, 2011, 03:36 PM
It's a loser of an argument Packer-fan.  Carter is absolutely first ballot material despite your recollections of the later part of his career


Well, you are the expert on loser arguements Rob.


I'll take that as your concession.   ::)

Good.  Then you'll be wrong as usual.  Carter still isn't in the HOF, which is just shocking because Rob thinks he should be in.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on February 16, 2011, 04:53 PM
Good.  Then you'll be wrong as usual.  Carter still isn't in the HOF, which is just shocking because Rob thinks he should be in.

Yeah, it's just me.  Never mind the ****-ton of articles you'll get if you Google 'Chris Carter Snubbed.'  You'll have to turn your Packer-Fan-Safe-Search off first though.
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 16, 2011, 06:38 PM
Good.  Then you'll be wrong as usual.  Carter still isn't in the HOF, which is just shocking because Rob thinks he should be in.

Yeah, it's just me.  Never mind the ****-ton of articles you'll get if you Google 'Chris Carter Snubbed.'  You'll have to turn your Packer-Fan-Safe-Search off first though.

If you took the time to look you would find a "**** ton" of articles explaining why he wasn't voted in. He didn't get the votes, so obviously not everyone thinks as highly of him as you do.    Or maybe all the judges are *gasp* PACKER FANS!
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: Rob on February 16, 2011, 09:37 PM
If you took the time to look you would find a "**** ton" of articles explaining why he wasn't voted in. He didn't get the votes, so obviously not everyone thinks as highly of him as you do.    Or maybe all the judges are *gasp* PACKER FANS!

I've read a few of those, and a bunch of them conclude that it's the popularity contest aspects of the voting that have kept him out so far.  It's a good ol' boys club at this point and a lot of great players get held up for not being more media friendly.

Placed in the hands of know-it-all sportswriters, every players’ hopes and dreams lie in the hands of men and women dealing in vicious politics and favoritism. (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/598485-cris-tal-clear-cris-carter-deserves-to-be-an-nfl-hall-of-famer)
Title: Re: NFL Regular Season 2010
Post by: JediJman on February 17, 2011, 01:14 AM
It's a good ol' boys club at this point and a lot of great players get held up for not being more media friendly.

Such as...?

Personally, I thought all of this year's selections were very deserving, so not really seeing any evidence of favoritism trumping tallent.