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Jesse James:
See now, to me SOTE is a weaker effort than the Zahn trilogy... I felt that anything that implied in it what it did (I'm trying not to spoil it for you) was a really bad way to take the story... I didn't care for that.
That said I thought some of the new characters were interesting, I thought it did fill a gap... I was mostly irritated with only a single aspect of the story rather than anything overall.
I found SOTE to be mediocre... OK, not something you felt ripped off after you read it, but ok...
Some stuff I found good reads...
-X-Wing (Comics & Novels)... There's a number of these, they're good reads... If you're really military oriented though may I suggest picking up the strategy guide to the original X-Wing and TIE Fighter PC games. The guides are also the stories of the main pilot characters in both books (The "Farlander Papers" and "Steele Chronicles" are the actual names of the stories). They're sort of their own thing, set aside from the X-Wing Rogue Squad books/comics but worth picking up with those IMO. Hell, play the games, they're part of the story too. :) The TIE Fighter story is interesting in particular because it integrates the story of Thrawn and how he goes from Vice Admiral in the Imperial Fleet to Grand Admiral... You'll like it I think, though he's not a "main" character in the story. It expounds a little on the "Secret Order" of assassins, and such that work under the Emperor's PERSONAL guidance... Force adepts are more abundant in the galaxy than you might think, and Mara isn't the only instrument the Emperor weilds... I'll leave it at that. ;)
-Kyle Katarn's Story... Kinda like the above with the games, Katarn's got 3 books dedicated to him and of course his games (Dark Forces and Jedi Knight being the integral parts of his story with 2 latter games and the add-on Mysteries of the Sith also adding to it but later in his life). The Katarn story is, in my opinion, one of the best EU stories in all of Star Wars. The story in the games is superior to the books, but you'll have that sometimes. They're short reads though, very small, so they're worth it.
-Star Wars: Empire... It's a recent, and still going, comic series. I buy them when they put them all in one volume (trade paperback? Graphic Novel? Whatever they call them), and I found them highly enjoyable. The one where the Empire are fighting the Amanin (Amanaman's species) is great... It's like the Michael Caine movie about Rourke's Drift... Very cool story, and really the whole Empire series is interesting to me.
-Star Wars: Tales... This was just cancelled I guess but it was great while it was alive. The comic series was neat because it was a number of short stories in one issue. I got into it later so there's a lot I didn't read. I need to buy these when they're all bound in one book or a number of "volumes" like Empire gets. There were some ****** stories but some were pretty fantastic too.
-Republic Commando... I haven't read the latest book, and to be honest I haven't read the first book, but I hear nothing but praise for the first with some mixed reviews on the second. I highly suggest picking up Republic Commando though as it's on my to-read list.
-Tales of _______... The "Tales of" series (Cantina, Jabba's Palace) is considered pretty good. It has some flawed stories in it in my opinion. With some weak attempts to ALWAYS tie main characters and things to basically "nothing", I think it exemplifies some negatives to EU IMO... At the same time there's some cooler elements worth reading. Most I know have picked these up.
-New Jedi Order... It's a big series, and honestly I'm not a huge fan of it but I know others are. It'd be irresponsible of me to say skip it then. It's about the only way to read up on what happens to the Solo's and Skywalkers. Other characters sneak into it too including (drum roll) Kyle Katarn and Keyan Farlander from 2 of the video games I mentioned... Bit parts though as I understand it.
NJO is filled with some positives (IE: The NJO itself and how Skywalker reforms the Jedi Knights and Academy), and some not-so-positives (IE: Killing Chewbacca as a selling point rather than plot, other random killings to sell books, The Vong which I view as Star Trek rip-offs, etc.). It's a popular series though so I think it's worth looking into...
I do NOT recommend Splinter of the Mind's Eye, Truce At Bakura, or Courtship... I've read all 3, all 3 were disappointing to me in many ways. Also I'd highly suggest not reading Dark Empire II... Dark Empire I is eh... Dark Empire II was corny and cheap.
I'm pretty picky though... I like a lot of EU but for every good bit I enjoy there's probably 5 things I can't stand. EU has an uncanny knack for trying to tie the main characters to every passer-by seen in the films or made up in books. It's annoying really... Add to that dumb stuff like the "Bantha Bar & Grill", or keeping EVERY character alive despite their assumed deaths in the films, and you can get into some annoyi8ng crap.
With that said... The Boba Fett comics of the 90's aren't bad reads... To be honest I even have been converted from a guy who HATED the idea of Fett "surviving" the Sarlaac to now actually digging that the Mandalorian one didn't necessarilly die... if you like EU that is. ;) Lucas says he died... Armies of Fett Fanboys say otherwise, so that's the great hting about EU. YOu can pick and choose what to believe.
I used to hate the notion and now I kind of dig seeing Fett resurface... As old as he must be at that point, haha. At some point the guy's gotta hang up the gauntlets though you figure. ;)
Mitsukara:
Hmm... there's quite a few of those I hadn't really heard much about, and I'm pretty curious about it. And now you've got me all worried about what SOTE tries to imply...
I've noticed a lot of mixed opinion on pretty much every piece of EU I've seen reviewed except the Thrawn Trilogy, so I'm well aware of the gray areas I'm looking to delve into. Which is why hearing more opinions helps, certainly...
I suspect the Courtship of Princess Leia isn't so much a great and deep story, so much as the novel overall sounds like fun and I'm interested to see the missing link between Han and Leia's relationship in ROTJ and their married life in the Thrawn Trilogy. I might decide it sucks, but it sounds worth looking into.
Everything else I'm kind of muddling along on really, although SOTE's ominous following/marketing/timeline placement make me curious enough to want to see what it's about. Rather I'll like it or not... who knows.
Splinter of the Mind's Eye sounds corny as heck, and as such I suspect I'll get a kick out of it. A quasi-hokey continuation of ANH with no knowledge of any other Star Wars and a lot of key parts missing (that mostly directed at Han and Chewie) do not sound to a deep and powerful continuation make, but the very title and plot overviews sound funny, and thus it sparks my curiousity.
The NJO, I just really don't think I'd like because of how dark it seems to be. I don't really want to read about Chewbacca and others dying needlessly at the hands of horrible super-aliens (who are supposedly like Borg ripoffs anyway), with the New Republic we're supposed to care about in previous books getting ripped apart and Coruscant essentially destroyed. Alcoholic Han Solo? Anakin Solo dying? And everyone who survives the mayhem constantly stressed and struggling for survival? It all sounds about as much fun as a hole in the head to me, even with the New Jedi Order itself and the progression with Luke and Mara and all the other important storyline points, sorry :( It's kind of like having another episode III after the original trilogy and the rest of the EU, and that's no fun.
Cheesy or unrealistic as it may be of me, also, I don't really like to imagine the main characters of the Star Wars movies growing old only to enjoy another huge war worse than "the big one." It's not that I need them to ride off into the sunset; I like the Thrawn Trilogy, how it puts things in peril and the characters face some pretty big personal challenges and a lot of progression in their lives, but it doesn't screw things up. The NJO screws things up forever, pure and simple.
Fett is awesome, and I can definately swallow him surviving. Palpatine is another story, and while it sounds like it might be enjoyable to read, Dark Empire sounds kind of bogus to me storyline-wise.
The X-Wing books I need to look into, or at least the first one, but right at the moment I'm looking for more original main charachter-motivated stories, so I don't think I'll pick that up next, just before long.
I'm still puzzled though- all the interesting pre-Thrawn trilogy stuff aside, what the heck should I read next in line after the Thrawn Trilogy, if I'm wanting to go timeline-wise? The Jedi Academy trilogy, or skip it and move on to something later? I still might read the Jedi Academy trilogy even if it is horrible, if it contains some kind of vital plot points forwarding the series.
And I do eventually want to read Timothy Zahn's other books I think- the mediocrely recieved "Hand of Thrawn" duology, Survivor's Quest, and probably Outbound Flight. I pretty much liked his storyline style and I love the charachter of Thrawn so I'd probably be interested in the vague and direct tie-ins with him. And a focus on Mara Jade is likely a good thing too
And, as I said, I'd kinda like to get to the Corellian Trilogy someday...
Angry Ewok:
--- Quote from: Jesse James on March 27, 2006, 11:21 PM ---Tales of _______... The "Tales of" series (Cantina, Jabba's Palace) is considered pretty good. It has some flawed stories in it in my opinion. With some weak attempts to ALWAYS tie main characters and things to basically "nothing", I think it exemplifies some negatives to EU IMO... At the same time there's some cooler elements worth reading. Most I know have picked these up.
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There is also Tales of the New Republic. And yes, while there are several horrible stories in these, thankfully there are several that are well worth reading - redeeming? I don't know.
I'd like to again stress that the Hand of Thrawn duo is pretty disapointing.
Oh, and let us know how you like Courtship of Princess Leia - I never did get that one.
Mitsukara:
Well, I didn't wind up buying what I'd planned entirely: I got The Courtship of Princess Leia, Jedi Search (Jedi Academy trilogy book 1), and a used (and thus half-priced, but it's in good condition) copy of Specter of the Past (Hand of Thrawn 1). I'm planning to read either Courtship or Jedi Search next; I've kind of researched Dark Empire so I know some of the general plot points there, so Jedi Search shouldn't lose me too much hopefully.
At the moment I'm actually reading The Lando Calrissian Adventures... it's quite funny, sometimes in unintended ways, but I'm enjoying it overall. I can see where people say the book is nonsense, but it's enjoyable if you don't take it too seriously :)
Thank you for your reccomendations! I'll get to other books someday when I get a chance. I'll also say what I think of some of these books once I've read them.
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