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Multimedia => The Prequel Trilogy => Topic started by: Diddly on June 12, 2005, 02:14 AM
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So I found a website (http://zuul.gotdns.com/swunknown/DS/DS_3.htm) that contained images of ROTS Deleted Scenes. Which got me to thinking, how much was cut from ROTS? This can include anything from entire scenes to dialogue. Let's use this thread to make a list!
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I am certainly looking forward to the deleted scenes. I do agree with a lot of people in other threads that it would have been nice to see Yoda on Dagobah. It did not ruin for me by any means, but cool to see.
Ummm, anyway I do not know much more than what is said on that site. I am hoping there was more to that Wookie battle, but maybe there was not?
For the longest time there was a rumor that Shaak Ti was decapitated by Grievous. But in that shot there is looks like he just impaled her. Unless she had THREE deleted death scenes?
Eh, I can't remember any more deleted scenes at the moment?
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I definitely think killing Shaak Ti would have built Grievous' character a bit. He's supposed to be this fearsome killer, yet we saw him kill nobody. He was involved in 2 fights: the first one he ran away, and the second one he got his butt kicked. Not too fearsome from where I'm standing. I say let Shaak Ti's head roll!!
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I definitely think killing Shaak Ti would have built Grievous' character a bit. He's supposed to be this fearsome killer, yet we saw him kill nobody. He was involved in 2 fights: the first one he ran away, and the second one he got his butt kicked. Not too fearsome from where I'm standing. I say let Shaak Ti's head roll!!
But where in the finished film does that even fit in?
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Depending how the Shaak Ti scene would play out, i think it could fit in prior to the Jedi getting into the Turbo lift (after they leave the hangar).
I don't know how exactly the scene plays out though...
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Here's something I posted in the ROTS thoughts thread that applies to the Shaak Ti death(s):
Just a couple of comments on the lack of Shaak Ti in the film. She actually had two different death scenes filmed, but neither showed up. The first one had her being involved in the raid on the General's cruiser. She was already on board (whether as a prisoner or an infiltrator, I don't know) and it was her homing beacon that led Obi-Wan and Anakin to the ship. Obi-Wan and Anakin were on their way through the ship to get to Palpatine when they came upon Shaak Ti standing in the middle of the hall crying. When they came closer, Grievous appeared behind her and stabbed her through the back with a lightsaber (possibly her own; this would also explain early images of the ROTS action figure that had a hole in her chest just big enough to insert a saber blade so it would stick out). When he attempted to come after them, they used their sabers to cut a hole in the floor and drop down to the next level.
Apparently Lucas decided there was too much going on in the beginning of the film, so her death scene was reshot and put in a new section of the movie. When Vader enters the Jedi Temple, there was a scene shot where he comes upon Shaak Ti meditating in a room that looks a lot like Yoda's. I don't know how he did it, but Vader kills her while she is meditating.
There are images of all these scenes (the former being animatics with actual actor footage; the latter being a single still photo) in the "Making of ROTS" book. Is it outside the realm of possibility to do an identified cut scenes thread for the board? I don't know how long it will be before T-Bone Fender starts to put a section together on his site (there is no better Cut Scenes archive on the web than his, IMO), and I've already caught several things (such as the shot of Palpatine's shuttle returning to Coruscant from the second trailer and a scene I saw on the TV Guide channel of Padme, Mon Mothma, and some other senators in her apartment) that were shot for the film but not included. It'd be cool to have all these together in one spot.
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I would much rather see her killed by Vader in the Temple.
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It is kind of neat to see/hear about the different scenes that were cut from ROTS. I hope we see a number of them pop up on the DVD. I personally was kind of hoping to see Yoda on Dagobah, even if it was just a shot of him standing and surveying the landscape of the planet (sort of like what is in the comic if anyone has seen). It didn't make or break the movie for me, but would have been a neat little tie-in to the OT I think. I would have actually liked to have seen the scenes involving Bail, Mon Mothma, Padme, etc. and the beginnings fo the Rebellion. I really thought that was missing, and should have been included in the theatrical cut in some way.
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned this anywhere, but at Steve Sansweet's Star Wars Spectacular presentation down at Comic Con last weekend, they showed the entire deleted scene of the meeting of Bail, Mon Mothma, Padme, and 3 others setting up the origins of the Rebel Alliance. It was a couple minutes long, kinda slow, but sorta interesting since we'd heard a lot about this scene already...
Someone asked Sansweet later on why we can't get an "Extended Edition" ala LOTR, and he said that's just not George's style, and that he edits stuff out for a reason, and we should just be happy in knowing that we at least get those scenes on the DVD seperately. He also added that if folks owned a Mac, they could just re-edit the movie themselves when it hits DVD, and reincorporate all the deleted scenes if they wanted to. :P
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I really liked that site that edited out all the cut aways from the Anakin/Kenobi fight, that was great.
I kinda liked having Shaak Ti not shown dying, I actually would have liked to see a couple more jedi that didn't get mowed down during order 66. That's a point blank showcase that Vader did have more work to do before Episode 4. =)
Plus, come on all these Jedi Masters get so easily slaughtered, it would be nice to know not ALL of them were such pansies. lol
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Well there are two scenes I really wanted to be included, but i doubt either will. I wanted to see Yoda land on Dagobah and the Qui-Lon Vos scenes. :-[
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I somehow think we'll end up being disappointed with the deleted scenes. You know how it goes.
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The Quinlan Vos scene was never even filmed, so the chances of it showing up on the DVD are somewhere below the Holiday Special getting rereleased.
Besides the aforementioned Birth of the Rebellion sequence, the one I most want to see is on Polis Massa where Qui-Gon's spirit voice is talking to Yoda before Bail comes in to tell him that Padme's giving birth. This is the major loose end I would have most liked to see resolved. I think the way this “revelation” was handled was the only major miscalculation in the ending.
As I understand the dialogue was never recorded, so I doubt it will be on the DVD. :( I suppose it's possible, and ideally it would be edited back into the film proper, like the extended Podrace in TPM.
It would be cool to see Yoda land on Dagobah--and would be relatively easy to reconstruct for the DVD by pasting CGI Yoda and lander into an establishing shot from ESB--but it’s not essential. In fact, it helps to preserve a little of the surprise in the OT if you watch them chronologically. You know Yoda is hanging out someplace and should reenter the story at some point, but you don't know where he is.
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I heard that production actually had an actor for quinlan vos but the scene ..and his job were cut -too bad that's prob. my most wanted scene.
I agree they need to do something to build grievous into a stronger foe- In Labrynth he was tough " killed countless jedi" but in the movie he has one lightsaber in his cloak..come on!I thought the character was cool..but make hime tougher.
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^ Yep.
StarWars.com's article on ROTS Easter Eggs (http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/f20050526/index.html) says:
"Expanded universe fans may have had their ears perk up when Obi-Wan gives the single-sentence summary of the Jedi briefing Anakin just missed. He mentions that Master Vos has moved his troops to Boz Pity. That is indeed a reference to Quinlan Vos, who was almost slated to appear in Episode III. Lucas included the comic book Jedi in the script, though his sequence was never filmed." (underlines added)
This Hyperspace Set Diary (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/member/episode-iii/bts/setdiary/news20050627.html) reveals some more. It being Hyperspace content, I can't quote directly but here's a summary:
Animatics were made of the scene, but Vos was never cast nor filmed. Costume Archivist and Supervisor Gillian Libbert started putting together a costume folder -- including fabric swatches -- and Pablo helped collect reference images from the comics. Libbert wanted to recommend Michael Mooney, the Assistant Costume Designer, to play this non-speaking role.
From the script, Vos was riding on top of a turbotank and another turbotank blasts him away, just as in the comic adaptation.
Side note: Intriguingly, Pablo also tells us that Tsui Choi (http://www.clonewarz.com/database/characters/jedi/images/tsuichoi_lg.jpg) (the little Jedi from Ratts Tyerell's species) nearly made it onto the Council. That woulda been awesome, since I really dig this character (from Jedi Council: Acts of War (2000), Republic #50, and Jedi: Dooku).
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Lucas did a good deal of extra work to complete the Episode I deleted scenes. I'd not rule out anything.
Then again, the Episode I deleted scenes didn't really make me wonder why they weren't left in, heh.
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I just read the article on the official site about the dvd extras and one of the deleted scenes added to the movie will be Yoda arriving on Dagobah.
ILM's gone back and finished the deleted scenes and will be on disc two of the set.
This puts us one step closer to the Expanded Edition set I hope will be made someday! :D
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So they did up all the deleted scenes...
Does this mean Q-Vos?
Kevin
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If you want to see the finished Exile to Dagobah shots from the DVD click here…
http://millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5914&start=50
here's a sneak peek
(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/dag1.jpg)
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Nice pics. The Shaak Ti scene looks interesting as well.
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I dig.
But are both Shaak Ti scenes on the DVD? If not, she'll die on the Invisible Hand but reappear in the Council hologram on Kashyyk... :-\
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...Uh, I've been banned from MillenniumFalcon yet I've never even registered there. What gives?
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I know this isn't a deleted scene, but I think a scene of the Stormtroopers/Clones fighting the wookies after Order 66 and the Empire is formed would be cool.
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I have to admit, I like the notion of Shaak Ti dying by Anakin/Vader as it is in the ROTS book. I'm sure the deleted scenes will be fine, no biggie, and like Ep. I will show why they were not included. Having said that, I would like to have had Yoda's arrival on Dagaboh included.
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I think everyone would have loved to have seen Yoda's arrival on Dagobay. I am not real sure why they did not include it?
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Wat Tambor's death
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5158/tambor22si.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/swdb/dbimages/90/43790F.jpg)
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Yeah, I remember when I first saw this film in the theatre I kept looking for Wat and his slaughter. I could see him briefly but never when he got axed. I know this scene above was cut out of the film. Is his death on screen at all?
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If you want to see the finished Exile to Dagobah shots from the DVD click here…
http://millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5914&start=50
here's a sneak peek
(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/dag1.jpg)
That was one of the scenes that I thought should have been shown in Revenge of the Sith
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I totally agree on the Qui-Gon scene! They went so far as to include his voiceover in AOTC, then cut or didn't complete the sequence in ROTS... I'm not sure how much sense the storyline would've made, but there was definately a hole there in the movie.
I'd like to see Yoda land on Dagobah, but I can also agree about saving a surprise for the OT. Originally in ESB it's pretty much a surprise when this little green dude creeps up on Luke eating dinner, and only after acting all pious and saying he's looking for a "great warrior" does he- and the audience- realize that he's actually talking to Yoda. So in a roundabout way for new viewers who decided to take the I-VI route, there would at least be some surprise to it if they hadn't already seen Dagobah.
Personally, I was a little surprised Tarkin didn't have any lines given the actor they chose for the part (if you watched Farscape and know who that is, then I think you know what I mean)- he could've been a dead ringer I think. Was it always planned that he only had the one walk-on cameo?
Now that the DVD is out- I've tried to look it up but with no success, and don't yet own it- what deleted scenes are included on it?
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Most of the deleted scenes are rather boring, actually.
I'll just turn off King Kong, pop in the ROTS DVD and get you that list, and a summary for each.
1.Grievous Slaughters a Jedi/Escape from the General(Animatic)
Shaak Ti was abducted by Greivous, so Obi and Ani find them, and Shaak Ti is executed by Greivous. Obi and Ani cut there way through the floor, and go into this fuel chamber/tank. The fuel explodes after Obi and Ani seel the hatch they came out of, and I think the explosion leads to the Cruiser splitting in half later.
2.A stirring in the Senate(Bail's Office)
Padme is introduced to the Senators who will later form the Rebel Alliance, like Bail Organa and Mon Mothma. They are talking about ways to resist Palpatines rule, since he is gaining too much power.
3.Seeds of Rebellion(Padme's Apartment)
The same group of Senators talk about giving Palpatine a Petition to let Palpatine know that there are many Senators who are not happy with his rule.
4.Confronting the Chancellor(Palpatine's Office)
Padme and her Senator friends present the Petition of 2000 to Palpatine.
5.A Plot to Destroy the Jedi?
This is much like the scene at the Hologram Battle Map in the Jedi Temple, except Mace, Obi-Wan, and Yoda are the only ones present, and it takes place in Yodas meditation hideout. The discussion is much the same.
6.Exiled to Dagobah
This scene is just Yoda's little pod ship landing on Dagobah. That's all. No lines, or anything.
Hope that helps you.
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I see that Star Wars.com has a new deleted scene up (in animatic form) from Episode III. You can check it out HERE (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000585.html). It is titled "Obi Chooses Boga", which is fairly self explanatory :).