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Title: Jarhead
Post by: Ryan on November 3, 2005, 08:16 PM
Is anyone else really excited about this movie? My friends and I are going to go see it tomorrow night when it opens. From the looks of things they have a really good cast, I really like Jake Gyllenhaal and Chris Cooper. I've been checking out the Jarhead site today, it is really well done.

http://www.jarheadmovie.com/welcometothesuck.html
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 3, 2005, 08:21 PM
Is anyone else really excited about this movie? My friends and I are going to go see it tomorrow night when it opens. From the looks of things they have a really good cast, I really like Jake Gyllenhaal and Chris Cooper. I've been checking out the Jarhead site today, it is really well done.

http://www.jarheadmovie.com/welcometothesuck.html

Its on my to do list as well. I agree, Gyllenhaal and Cooper are extraordinary actors, and Foxx is great too. This is based on the current war in Iraq, correct?
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: BillCable on November 3, 2005, 08:28 PM
No, Desert Storm.  '91.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: SpudTrooper on November 3, 2005, 08:40 PM
this looks very good  8)
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Rob on November 3, 2005, 09:13 PM
I'm very excited about this one for whatever reason.... the previews look fantastic.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 3, 2005, 10:36 PM
No, Desert Storm.  '91.

Thats what I was thinking actually, I dunno why I said current war. I remember them saying something about Kuwait actually.  :P
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Chris M on November 3, 2005, 11:25 PM
I visit a site with a lot of SOF guys and they have commented a lot about the writer of the book this is based on and they tend to believe that a lot of the book was ****.  They seem to feel this guy had some kind of vendetta against the military when he wrote the book.

I can't comment personally about the book itself because I haven't read it...yet.  And I can't comment about accuracy because I wasn't in the military in '91 when the movie seems to be based around.  I know this is a bit off the topic of seeing the movie, but I may try to catch it if I can get the time.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Jesse James on November 4, 2005, 01:10 AM
I'd like tos ee it but it's one of those movies I'm thinking I can't get the gf to go see...

The shot of the A-10's buzzing over the infantry is just great though and really makes you wanna check that out.  Looked nice...  The music though is great too, at least in the commercials, and seems to fit the bill.  Sorta reminded me something of a modern version of Full Metal Jacket or some such, maybe a little more light-hearted at times, i dunno.

Looks good though to me. 
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 4, 2005, 01:40 AM
I'd like tos ee it but it's one of those movies I'm thinking I can't get the gf to go see...

The shot of the A-10's buzzing over the infantry is just great though and really makes you wanna check that out.  Looked nice...  The music though is great too, at least in the commercials, and seems to fit the bill.  Sorta reminded me something of a modern version of Full Metal Jacket or some such, maybe a little more light-hearted at times, i dunno.

Looks good though to me. 

It reminded me of Full Metal Jacket a lot too.

I'm suprised, with Jake Gyllenhaal and Jamie Foxx in it, that your gf wouldn't want to see it.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Rob on November 4, 2005, 10:30 AM
My girlfriend despises war movies, but she's going with us tonight.  Probably because she likes Peter Sarsgaard.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: BillCable on November 4, 2005, 01:08 PM
Minor plot spoilers:



Be warned - every review I've read has said there's virtually no military action in this film.  It's a character/drama movie, not a war movie.  The plot focuses on how they get to Iraq and are disappointed that there's no fighting to do.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 4, 2005, 01:29 PM
In response to Bill Cable (I didn't want to quote it cause it has a spoiler):

I wonder why they do that? Its a little misleading. They know you want the action, they entice you by showing you action, then they give you drama  ???

This was done with that WW2 prisoner of war movie that came out a few years ago as well (sorry, the name escapes me).  They showed explosions and everything in the trailers, but the actually movie was about a trial.  >:(
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Chris M on November 4, 2005, 01:57 PM
From the sounds of this, it seems a bit like the Gulf War era movie "Three Kings."
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: BillCable on November 4, 2005, 02:26 PM
I wonder why they do that? Its a little misleading. They know you want the action, they entice you by showing you action, then they give you drama  ???

Because guys won't march out in droves to see a movie all about a bunch of guys sitting in a tent in the desert talking about their feelings.  ;)
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 4, 2005, 03:03 PM
I wonder why they do that? Its a little misleading. They know you want the action, they entice you by showing you action, then they give you drama  ???

Because guys won't march out in droves to see a movie all about a bunch of guys sitting in a tent in the desert talking about their feelings.  ;)

I understand that, but there's ways to make it a mix of both, ala Saving Private Ryan.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Vator on November 4, 2005, 04:09 PM
Minor plot spoilers:



Be warned - every review I've read has said there's virtually no military action in this film.  It's a character/drama movie, not a war movie.  The plot focuses on how they get to Iraq and are disappointed that there's no fighting to do.

Well I wouldn't expect there to be much action...I mean, the Ground War only last for 3 days, right?
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 4, 2005, 04:10 PM
Minor plot spoilers:



Be warned - every review I've read has said there's virtually no military action in this film.  It's a character/drama movie, not a war movie.  The plot focuses on how they get to Iraq and are disappointed that there's no fighting to do.

Well I wouldn't expect there to be much action...I mean, the Ground War only last for 3 days, right?

That's a good point, I had forgotten about that!
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: CHEWIE on November 5, 2005, 12:14 AM
I kind of want to see this movie, haven't really seen too many at the theatres lately.  As long as it's not a political driven movie, I would like to see it.

 :P
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Jesse James on November 5, 2005, 01:32 AM
I'd like tos ee it but it's one of those movies I'm thinking I can't get the gf to go see...

The shot of the A-10's buzzing over the infantry is just great though and really makes you wanna check that out.  Looked nice...  The music though is great too, at least in the commercials, and seems to fit the bill.  Sorta reminded me something of a modern version of Full Metal Jacket or some such, maybe a little more light-hearted at times, i dunno.

Looks good though to me. 

It reminded me of Full Metal Jacket a lot too.

I'm suprised, with Jake Gyllenhaal and Jamie Foxx in it, that your gf wouldn't want to see it.

She knows she has all the beefcake she needs at home with me...  Oh yeah... 

*sigh*   :'(
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 6, 2005, 05:01 PM
Well I wouldn't expect there to be much action...I mean, the Ground War only last for 3 days, right?

100 hours...thanks to the United States Air Force!  ;D

Sorry...but gotta promote my team a little!  :D
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Chris M on November 6, 2005, 05:45 PM
Well I wouldn't expect there to be much action...I mean, the Ground War only last for 3 days, right?



100 hours...thanks to the United States Air Force! ;D

Sorry...but gotta promote my team a little! :D

I gotta back you on the USAF props!!  Nobody gives us any love.  ;D
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 6, 2005, 07:38 PM
Try being a Missile crew-dog...it's even worse!   ;)
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Tracy on November 6, 2005, 08:26 PM

100 hours...thanks to the United States Air Force!  ;D

Sorry...but gotta promote my team a little!  :D

I gotta back you on the USAF props!! Nobody gives us any love. ;D

Gotta say hey to the fly-boys :).  I was an Air Force brat for the first few years of my life.  Was born and lived at Tyndall for 4 years.  Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Chris M on November 6, 2005, 08:52 PM
Try being a Missile crew-dog...it's even worse! ;)

Security Forces here.  Didn't mean to imply that I was aircrew if I did.  Of course, everyone knows the cops have the best parties!!
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 6, 2005, 08:54 PM
got 7 years more to go. We deployed Enduring Freedom and crushed 'em. They have a better situation in afghanistan now thanks to our fly team.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 6, 2005, 11:58 PM
I think I see the problem here....the Air Force just doesn't have any cool movies about it.  The Navy has Top Gun and Officer and a Gentleman, the Army has TONS of movies, Saving Private Ryan, Patton, etc.  The Marines possibly have Jarhead.

What's the Air Force have?  Iron Eagle...a movie where a bunch of teenagers commandeerr every high security portion of an AF base, requisition a couple of F-16's and go on a mission.   ::)

And don't get me started on Wargames!
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 7, 2005, 12:01 AM
I think I see the problem here....the Air Force just doesn't have any cool movies about it.  The Navy has Top Gun and Officer and a Gentleman, the Army has TONS of movies, Saving Private Ryan, Patton, etc.  The Marines possibly have Jarhead.

What's the Air Force have?  Iron Eagle...a movie where a bunch of teenagers commandeerr every high security portion of an AF base, requisition a couple of F-16's and go on a mission.   ::)

And don't get me started on Wargames!

Stealth wasn't realistic?  ???


 ;)
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: DSJ™ on November 7, 2005, 12:04 AM
(http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/51/163751.jpg)   :D
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Jesse James on November 7, 2005, 12:32 AM
Well...  If you count the army air corps as pre-af, af...  You have Memphis Belle and Tuskeegee Airmen...  Not AF specifically, but it is the precursor.

BTW, Officer & A Gentlment cannot possibly count.  I'm sorry. :)

Oh and you forgot Full Metal Jacket for the Leathernecks.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 7, 2005, 10:35 AM
I think I see the problem here....the Air Force just doesn't have any cool movies about it.  The Navy has Top Gun and Officer and a Gentleman, the Army has TONS of movies, Saving Private Ryan, Patton, etc.  The Marines possibly have Jarhead.

What's the Air Force have?  Iron Eagle...a movie where a bunch of teenagers commandeerr every high security portion of an AF base, requisition a couple of F-16's and go on a mission.   ::)

And don't get me started on Wargames!

Stealth wasn't realistic?  ???


 ;)

I think the reason we(the AF) haven't gotten the noteriety in films is because of the crap films like Iron Eagle and Stealth- it kind of intimidates newer AF film proposals-preventing them from ever happening.

I know we're not cursed but ...come on a good film already

well, I did think independance day was decent
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 7, 2005, 11:17 AM
I think I see the problem here....the Air Force just doesn't have any cool movies about it.  The Navy has Top Gun and Officer and a Gentleman, the Army has TONS of movies, Saving Private Ryan, Patton, etc.  The Marines possibly have Jarhead.

What's the Air Force have?  Iron Eagle...a movie where a bunch of teenagers commandeerr every high security portion of an AF base, requisition a couple of F-16's and go on a mission.   ::)

And don't get me started on Wargames!

Stealth wasn't realistic?  ???


 ;)

I think the reason we(the AF) haven't gotten the noteriety in films is because of the crap films like Iron Eagle and Stealth- it kind of intimidates newer AF film proposals-preventing them from ever happening.

I know we're not cursed but ...come on a good film already

well, I did think independance day was decent

I agree, Independence Day was good. I read somewhere a long time ago that the air force wouldn't promote the movie unless they took out the parts about Area 51, which of course they didn't. I do also agree that there needs to be a new realistic AF movie. It seems everytime they do make one, it is sci-fi like ID4 or Stealth, but when you think about it, the AF is very interesting on its own without all that fictional stuff thrown in.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Matt on November 7, 2005, 11:32 AM
So did anybody see the movie Jarhead over the weekend?

Hoo-rah?
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Chris M on November 7, 2005, 12:22 PM
One thing that irked me about ID4 (after I went into the AF) was the gate guards at the desert base.  I'm guessing that was Area 51.

Since when the hell did gate guards start toting MP5's?  An MP5 is a CQB weapon, not for shooting over open areas.  The weapon of choice would be an M16 or an M4, depending on the armory of the unit.

Also, the SP's at the gate would have head gear and would not be wearing black.  Nothing says shoot me like wearing black in a brown desert. 

Another thing, no SP in his right mind is going to allow a fleet of cars and trucks into a controlled are (Area 51) without authorization, especially into a sensitive area, no matter what the cargo may be.

Just my .02 being a former SP. 

Inaccuracy is one thing that drives me nuts about military movies.  I try to avoid thinking about it now because "it's only a movie."
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 7, 2005, 06:27 PM
sadly the SP on my base do wear green BDU and black berets and my base is in the desert

That an SP would allow 50 vehicles at once- true never would happen at a controlled area like that
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Chris M on November 7, 2005, 06:43 PM
Slothus, what is your home station?

BTW, I hate to correct you, but the beret  is navy blue...as if it really matters.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 9, 2005, 02:10 AM
I just got back from seeing this. Fantastic movie! Beautifully photographed, every performance was spot on and it defied a lot of the war movie cliches that you come to expect. Bravo.
Title: Re: Jarhead
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 10, 2005, 01:31 AM
I've deployed but haven't seen any "action" myself so...I wouldn't be able to assess what's real in a movie simulation.
Well...I Do know that Heraldo Bastard was close enough to see it.