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Community => JD Sports Forum! => Topic started by: Scott on February 2, 2006, 03:44 PM
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Once the league is up, I'll set the whole shebang together. We'll do an on-line draft like we did for Baseball on a predetermined night in late March
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Sign me up.
Are we going to address the whole SP/RP thing and find a way to eliminate that disadvantage or are we just going to go about our business normally.
I'd also personally prefer it if you didn't get negative points for pitching losses - and if we are going to have negative points, I think either a win should be worth more or a loss should lose you less than last time around...
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Interested, but I'll wait to see how we get the rules set up this time. I'd hate to see a re-run of the rules fights.
Kevin
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I'm in. But I am away from the 24th to the 29th of March. Please work around that if you can.
I'll second Rob's comments regarding pitching. I'd suggest a lower but still negative point score for a pitching loss.
With respect to the SP/RP thing, we need to find a way to cap it I think. We might be hamstrung by the yahoo designations so that we can't do anything about what pitchers get the designation, but if we limit the number of starts, then maybe? I dunno, I'm no baseball genius, that much is certain, but just throwing a suggestion out there.
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I've been trying to come up with a way to make it fair and I've had three basic ideas...
One is to make everyone aware of the advantage having a SP/RP player who functioned as a relief pitcher but could get a guy a save in a SP slot using only 1.0 or 1.2 innings. Then people draft accordingly and will spend higher draft picks on those guys instead of grabbing them as free agents after the draft.
Two - if Yahoo can designate all pitching positions by games instead of innings, this might limit the advantage since you couldn't plug in a RP into a SP slot and only spend 1 inning, you'd have to use the same 1 game that a 9 inning start from a pitcher costs - I favor this if it's possible anyway because that way a guy who pitches a complete game doesn't cost more than a guy who gets a win after six innings.
The other option is to just make saves worth a lot less than wins - a LOT less. Then people might not load up on relief pitchers as fast.
There are probably holes to all three of these ideas - so let's hear them and keep brainstorming.
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In.
3 years. 3 titles. Dressel Dynasty baby!
About the scoring system, I'm down for whatever, as long as it's laid out before the draft and stuck to for the whole season.
I kinda dig the traditional point system we've done for the past couple years. Maybe we could raise Wins from 7 to 14 and keep saves at 5, plus shorten the amount of innings pitched allowed?
Or we could always move to a rotisserie format like basketball.
It's funny, we made an attempt last year to fix the wins and saves thing, but raising the Win value from 5 to 7 didn't near make up for it. So maybe if a Win is worth 14 that'll do the trick.
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A fourth option is to just eliminate points from saves all together and then keep wins at 7 or move them to whatever we want.
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Saves need to have some value
Pitching and Hitting should be at least comparable point wise and I'd be fine with some more tweaking
Maybe see what A-Rod and Pujols would have on a point system vs potential 1st Round SP and RP
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It looks like if we do a free league we will have to do the draft here instead of live
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I'll tell you how you fix it: you do a heads-up league instead of points. Make an even number of categories for both pitchers and hitters and go head-to-head with each other like the Yahoo free leagues. Then you guys won't have issues with scoring. Have fun.
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I'm in, so long as there's a real draft and not one that's forum-based. Scott, where are you seeing that we can't do a draft in a free league?
As far as scoring goes, I've always been a big fan of the rotisserie scoring over a points-based system.
John
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We can do one but it has to be at like 8 in the morning during the week
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Because of your schedule or because that's all Yahoo allows?
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I'm in, so long as there's a real draft and not one that's forum-based. Scott, where are you seeing that we can't do a draft in a free league?
As far as scoring goes, I've always been a big fan of the rotisserie scoring over a points-based system.
John
No offense, but that's going to be mighty tough to arrange. I travel a lot in the winter and while the online draft is tedious as hell, it's about the only way I can manage the baseball one.
If you can do it on the week I'm on holidays (during the daytime) then no problem :P
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That is all Yahoo allows
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That is all Yahoo allows
I think if you wait, you'll see more times become available Scott.
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I emailed chuckles/Jim about the league. Pretty sure he'll be in.
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http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1
League Name: JediDefender
League Password: berry
I set it up Rotisserie style, it elimates a lot of scoring headaches and brings it down to the following catagories:
Hits
HR
RBI
SB
Batting Avg
Wins
Saves
K's
ERA
WHIP
I'm open to debate on this but it levels the playing field, gets rid of the SP/RP problem and sets it up the same as Hoops which I think is the most fun of the Fantast Sports we do here
I also got a draft time of March 30th at 9PM CST, this can be changed and I'm not exactly sure why they were only showing morning times yesterday.
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Hey Scott, we need the league ID number, the name "JediDefender" isn't good enough to sign up. There's a number as well.
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Hey Scott, we need the league ID number, the name "JediDefender" isn't good enough to sign up. There's a number as well.
LOL,
You'd think he'd know that after giving me grief about it in the golf thread :P
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Sorry
League # 60698
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In :)
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Sweet, another chance to secure a spot at the very bottom or round one thus having no chance at a Shaun Alexander / A-Rod type. :P
I'm in. :)
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Hey,
I was just looking at the settings. Positions are pretty normal, but can you clarify the following on the pitchers?
SP
SP
RP
RP
P
P
P
I get the SP and RP, obviously, but the P designations - are they just for the bench positions? I'm thinking not, because there are five other BN slots anyway. So how do players fit in those slots?
And so I'm clear on scoring, it's how you fit relative to the totals of the other teams in the league, right?
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P can go either way Brent, pitcher or relief pitcher.
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Brent, where do you see the 5 BN spots? I don't see them on my 'my team' page.
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Brent, where do you see the 5 BN spots? I don't see them on my 'my team' page.
Clickez moi (http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/60698/settings)
Count up them spaces.
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Right on - it just wasn't showing up yet in the team area.
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Are there any slots left?
John
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It looks like there are about 7 left unless there are some commitments who haven't actually signed up for the league yet.
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Mmm...only 5 in so far, I'm getting Chris (malloc) and Juan (juanelopezrosario) to sign up, and with JohnH that'll make 8.
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Pretty sure I can force Jim/chuckles to sign up as well. That'd be nine.
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I'm in and working on getting a friend or two (Chris Elliott and Broc from RS) to sign up. We should try Shawn Tierney (EZ) from the hoops league as well.
John
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Chris Elliot?
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6303140149.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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Only 7 people are interested?
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If you need people, I'm down but it's gotta be run how our hockey league here is run: NO DRAMA.
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I guess I should restart the conversation: are we happy with the stats? That is, does the rotisserie approach effectively resolve the pitching issues? Additionally are the pitching win/save stats satisfactory as they are set?
We're only two weeks or so out of the draft, so now's the time to resolve it if it can be resolved. I don't know enough about baseball to really address it properly, so I'll leave it to you boys down south.
I don't think we can do anything about the way yahoo sets up positions, so can we fix it by style of league or point settings or a cap on games/innings?
I think we can get chuckles back into the league as well if we want.
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Hi i registered my team thanks for the invite matt
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You're welcome, let the games begin!
I did notice that the "Snagglicious" owner JohnH? unregistered. So we had 8, now we're back down to 7.
Bug, is Chuckles in?
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Haven't heard from him in a bit, I'll ask again. Next week is draft, Thursday night, correct? Don't move it on me please.
I'm going to guess the scoring is settled then given the lack of discussion.
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Haven't heard from him in a bit, I'll ask again. Next week is draft, Thursday night, correct? Don't move it on me please.
I'm going to guess the scoring is settled then given the lack of discussion.
Well, I've always been down for whatever really. The way the scoring system is now, it's Yahoo's default. 5 categories for pitching, 5 for hitting, all of equal value. So, I think it's just delightful.
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Why does that make me even more nervous ;)
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Why does that make me even more nervous ;)
What can I say, when you're a well-oiled machine such as myself, you just exude danger. People fear you, they fear your presence.
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No, I think it's just an inherent distrust of dentists. Not much more than that. :-*
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No, I think it's just an inherent distrust of dentists. Not much more than that. :-*
That was my next guess.
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Don't forget about Thursday night gentlemen!
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Draft is at 9 PM CST at Yahoo, we're holding it on-line like we did for Basketball
There is still spots available if you want to join :-*
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Jamie and I will be at the Red Wings/Preds game 2nite or else I'd help fill up the league.
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http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1
League Name: JediDefender
League Password: berry
I set it up Rotisserie style, it elimates a lot of scoring headaches and brings it down to the following catagories:
Hits
HR
RBI
SB
Batting Avg
Wins
Saves
K's
ERA
WHIP
This still the scoring?
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Yes, still the scoring
Everyone OK with the Player (162) and Innings (1300) caps?
My only question on WHIP is if there is an inning requirement so it doesn't skew that stat towards Closers
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Yes, still the scoring
Everyone OK with the Player (162) and Innings (1300) caps?
My only question on WHIP is if there is an inning requirement so it doesn't skew that stat towards Closers
For the scoring all the hits and walks allowed by the pitchers you started are divided by total innings pitched.
That means even if you have Trevor Hoffman with a .90 WHIP at 70 IP and a starting staff with a 4.00 WHIP at 1,000 IP, the team WHIP will be about 3.92
In other words, a pitcher's WHIP only carries weight relative to their innings pitched. Closers contribute a little bit, starters contribute a lot.
The same rule applies to ERA.
And, I'm just ducky with the scoring system as is as well.
Tonight is the first night of my 3rd consecutive JD Fantasy Baseball Championship reign. So don't be late.
:D
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http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1
League Name: JediDefender
League Password: berry
I set it up Rotisserie style, it elimates a lot of scoring headaches and brings it down to the following catagories:
Hits
HR
RBI
SB
Batting Avg
Wins
Saves
K's
ERA
WHIP
This still the scoring?
Just to be clear here, the scoring is not "hits," it is "runs." That is Yahoo's default and also the way our league is set.
If you were to have both "hits" and "average" that would be totally redundant. The way it is set on our Yahoo league page is correct.
So, in short, the scoring is:
runs NOT hits
Batting average
Hr
Rbi
Sb
Wins
K's
ERA
WHIP
Saves
I will be plastering the draft chat with this info so that there is no confusion.
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So were all going to be there, yes?
Kevin
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So were all going to be there, yes?
Kevin
Oh fine, I guess I'll stop by.
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Sweet, all I had to do to get a top 5 pick was join a league that only had 7 teams...
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Last pick. Hooray.
Kevin
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Anyone have a first baseman they can spare :-*
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I just traded my extra one to Kevin - sorry Brent.
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I just traded my extra one to Kevin - sorry Brent.
Last laugh is actually gonna be on you Zod. Let's look at all of Kev's "1st basemen" for a moment, shall we?
1. David Ortiz (Will play 1B on his roster) will put up numbers as good as anyone in baseball to the tune of .300 40 HR 130 RBI
2. Derrek Lee (Will play DH on Kev's roster) Was a triple crown threat all of last year and will post .320 35 HR 110 RBI 20 SB in all likelihood.
3. Lance Berkman (Will play OF on Kev's roster) 1B/OF versatility, drafted to play outfield is good for .300 30 HR 100 RBI.
4. Ryan Howard - Will likely be traded to me shortly for something he needs.
5. Jason Giambi - bench, for now.
I don't see what the joke is really. He got 2 of the top 10 hitters in baseball last year in Ortiz and Lee, both will be starting, the 3rd one is an outfielder, Howard's going to my team since I only have Thome and no backup, and Giambi one of 5 bench spots.
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What are you his spokesman? Kevin couldn't explain all that?
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What are you his spokesman?
Yes, and the position pays surprisingly well.
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Nah, he just had Kev draft his first baseman so he didn't have to waste a spot and Kev just trusts him that the trade will work out in his best interest, just like the Helton deal did last year.* ;)
Ortiz/Lee are great picks, no argument at all. Later in the year I had Teixeira and Ortiz in just that arrangement and it worked out great.
Like Berkman, I drafted Chad Tracy because of that 1B/OF flexibility. My other 1B, Utley, didn't show up as a 1B on any of the lists I had in front of me last night. I was trying to decide between him and Figgins for 2B, so imagine my pleasure when I managed to get both of them and Utley could play 1B while Figgins can drift to 3B (should Arod get hurt) AND outfield. Sweet. 8)
* it's a fuel on the fire kind of joke with no harm meant :-*
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Nah, he just had Kev draft his first baseman so he didn't have to waste a spot and Kev just trusts him that the trade will work out in his best interest, just like the Helton deal did last year.* ;)
Actually, I didn't have Kev do anything. The jackass thought the draft was at 10:30 and signed in during round 10, when he just happen to see Ryan Howard sitting there as the highest ranked player left, and grabbed him as "1st basemen #4" without even knowing who his first 9 picks were yet.
Just a fact check for you Bug.
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* it's a fuel on the fire kind of joke with no harm meant :-*
Facts are irrelevant, perception is everything ;)
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* it's a fuel on the fire kind of joke with no harm meant :-*
Facts are irrelevant, perception is everything ;)
Must be a Canadian thing. ;)
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So, after review of the rosters, I've got some predictions category by category for the league. Of course, this is all based on assumed health, which never happens, and does not take into account future trades and free agent pickups, which will change things considerably. But, for what it's worth, and that not being much, here's how I see things as they stand right now.
Runs
The Zods and El Diablos each have about 7 players that will approach or surpass 100 runs scored, and will likely dominate this category. Tejada/J. Lopez on the Zods and Benji Molina/Morgan Ensberg on the Diablos will likely be the only players on the 2 teams to not approach the 100 R mark. Canuckleheads should be in the mix here.
Batting Average
The Zods and Canuckleheads will likely dominate this category with a team batting average hovering around .290. As is right now, The Zods may even make a run at .300
Homeruns
The Famine and Dressel's Rebels will both likely approach 250 HRs, and The Zods and The Cuspids will likely approach the 230 HR plateau. Again, a lot is going to change, this is just the opening day snapshot.
Runs Batted In
Dressel's Rebels will likely knock in close to 900 runs, and The Famine just under that in the 800s. Not surprising since HRs and RBIs are usually closely tied. The Zods and The Cuspids will likely approach the 800 mark.
Stolen Bases
Canuckleheads and El Diablos will come close to swiping 200 bags as is. This is remarkable because in rotisserie baseball, a team that swipes 130 bags will almost always win the category.
Next up, the pitching analysis...
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Wins
This category could be pretty tight. Probably the most impossible category to predict at this point, being as dependent as it is on team run support, The Zods and Dressel's Rebels probably will break the 100 Win plateau, with 3 other teams closely flanking between 90-95 wins.
ERA
Dressel's Rebels team ERA likely will be well under 3.00 with Randy Johnson, Rich Harden, Felix Hernandez, Brad Lidge, Eric Gagne, BJ Ryan, and Derek Turnbow all turning in ERA's 3 or lower. El Diablos likely will have a team ERA hovering right around the 3.00 mark.
WHIP
Dressel's Rebels team WHIP will likely be around 1.15, with 3 front-line ace starters and 4 front-line closers turning in very low ratios. Canuckleheads and Minnesota Muskies close by with a team WHIP 1.20+.
Strikeouts
Dressel's Rebels should fan 1,300 batters, with Canuckleheads and El Diablos close by at 1,200 K's.
Saves
El Diablos and Dressel's Rebels should both save over 160 games
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Predicted finish:
1. Dressel's Rebels (3-peat)
2. El Diablos
3. TIE - Zods/Canuckleheads
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Good read - thanks.
On another note, just so I'm 100% clear, the P spot as opposed to the RP and SP spots is just a spot where any pitcher can go and was done to avoid the SP/RP thing right? Or is there something else to it?
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The "P" spot is somewhere where you can put any pitcher, whether it be SP or RP, depending on your statistical needs at any given time. Short on saves? Plug in a RP. Need wins or K's? Plug in a SP. But it was not "something we did;" rather, it is Yahoo's default roster setup.
We're 45 minutes away from first pitch here gentlemen, may the best man attempt to unseat me... in vain!!
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Nah, he just had Kev draft his first baseman so he didn't have to waste a spot and Kev just trusts him that the trade will work out in his best interest, just like the Helton deal did last year.* ;)
Actually, I didn't have Kev do anything. The jackass thought the draft was at 10:30 and signed in during round 10, when he just happen to see Ryan Howard sitting there as the highest ranked player left, and grabbed him as "1st basemen #4" without even knowing who his first 9 picks were yet.
Just a fact check for you Bug.
This is true.
To echo Dressels statments, I figured the draft started at 10:30, so when I came in, it was my pick, so in a blind grab, I nailed Mr. Howard.
Kevin
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Supid ass rain already killing a perfectly good shot at a W for Buehrle...
Where can we check to see how many innings we have left for pitchers? I've looked around but don't see it.
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Supid ass rain already killing a perfectly good shot at a W for Buehrle...
Where can we check to see how many innings we have left for pitchers? I've looked around but don't see it.
There used to be a link on the bottom right side of the team page called "maximum games played" which was handy for that info. But apparently now you have to click "team log" along the top of that page for that information.
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Yeah, Maximum Games Played at the bottom right was what I was looking for - team log works. Thanks.
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Looks like I gave up on Thome a year too soon... ::)
If his back holds up he's starting off for what should be a monster of a season...
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Looks like I gave up on Thome a year too soon... ::)
If his back holds up he's starting off for what should be a monster of a season...
Yeah he just homered again today. Thome for the past 5 years has been a lock for .280 40 HR 100+ RBI. I knew after he signed with the Sox he was healthy. I also got him at a huge discount in round 14. I basically pulled the same stunt that I did last year when I got Richie Sexson, who also had a monster year.
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Guys, sorry about my disappearance from the league. Long story, but to summarize it was just a stupid move on my part. I was in a public league, decided to leave it, and left JD instead. I realized it not long after, deleted myself from the public league, then forgot to sign back up for JD. :( Hope I didn't screw anything up, though it looks like everything worked out OK.
John
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I don't think you did any harm to us, but another player would have been nice in the mix. Sorry you're not in there John.
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I don't think you did any harm to us, but another player would have been nice in the mix. Sorry you're not in there John.
Yeah I wouldn't have minded another victim :D
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Thome was about the only guy I wanted that got drafted before I got a chance to take him, waited one turn too long. He was a great pick that late, I had Thome and Blalock set in my queue and was going to pull the trigger on either of them
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Thome was about the only guy I wanted that got drafted before I got a chance to take him, waited one turn too long. He was a great pick that late, I had Thome and Blalock set in my queue and was going to pull the trigger on either of them
I always look for that guy too. Last year, Richie Sexson was coming off a year where he was out for the Brewers all year long with a shoulder injury, signed the money deal with the Mariners in the offseason, and I stole him in the late rounds where he went on to produce 39 HR 121 RBI. Sexson had always been good for 40 HR/100 RBI. The similarities between him and Thome are striking. Last year Thome was out all year for the Phils, and he too had always been a 40 HR (5 straight years) 100 RBI guy. Then he signed the deal with the Sox and now he's coming charging out of the box off to a great start.
Zod and I were talking about how I predicted he'd finish in the top 3 last year when I saw how he drafted Soriano, Manny Ramirez and Jim Thome as his first 3. Well, much like the forecasts I made this year, it's contingent on players not getting injured, and unfortunately, losing a high-round player like Thome is basically irreplaceable.
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What a freaky thing this is. Scott, how appropriate that you picked up Chris Shelton. This might be insider information, I think we should launch an investigation.
I submit Exhibit A, Scott Pearson:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-03/scott2.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/personal/Dsc01178.jpg)
Now look closely, here is Exhibit B, Detroit's first baseman Chris Shelton:
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060403/capt.moow10504032218.tigers_royals_baseball_moow105.jpg)
(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/mlb/players/5/6/7259.jpg)
Scott Pearson IS Chris Shelton. This is worse than Pete Rose betting on baseball. Scott, you can't sign yourself as a free agent to your own fantasy baseball team just because you're about to face the bad starting pitching of the Texas Rangers. I'm playing this season under protest...
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I spent about ten minutes this morning with Chris Shelton selected as 'add' to my team trying to decide who to cut. I couldn't justify cutting any of my 'potential relievers' and I'm thin on back-up bats as it is... so I passed.
Here's hoping his hot bat is just a product of playing the Texas Rangers and he comes back to Earth next week.
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I needed another 1B since Kevin drafted 8 of them and he's as good as any out there right now, two Tigers on a team though aren't so hot. Although I really like Granderson too
He sort of does look like me, I rule
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Which one of us is "El Diablos"? I'm fighting the overwhelming need to correct the spanish grammar in that team name...
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I needed another 1B since Kevin drafted 8 of them
Wrong.
He I rule
Wrong.
Kevin
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What's INF mean? Under Isringhausen's WHIP and ERA for the night it says INF - I'm assuming it has something to do with the fact that he apparently gave up a grand slam without getting a single out. I'm wondering if maybe he didn't put those guys on base so maybe he wasn't responsible for the runs? Or is it because he gave up a bunch of runs without getting any outs and it's something really bad for my team numbers?
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What's INF mean? Under Isringhausen's WHIP and ERA for the night it says INF - I'm assuming it has something to do with the fact that he apparently gave up a grand slam without getting a single out. I'm wondering if maybe he didn't put those guys on base so maybe he wasn't responsible for the runs? Or is it because he gave up a bunch of runs without getting any outs and it's something really bad for my team numbers?
Yeah Izzy did a nice job there.
"INF" stands for "infinity," that being that the ERA and WHIP cannot be calculated for this outing since he did not record an out. ERA is runs/innings, and WHIP is Walks+Hits/innings, so that denominator in both cases is zero. Ordinarily, when an out is recorded, 1/3rd of an inning is placed in the denominator per out.
Don't worry though, those earned runs are put in the numerator of your team equation :D
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I was afraid it meant infinity. >:(
So if I follow, it just can't be calculated for the specific intance but it can be factored into my team's overall WHIP and ERA.
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Right. If one guy gave up 2 runs in 6 innings (3.00 ERA) and another gave up 4 runs in no innings (Inf ERA), your team ERA is 9.00.
John
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I was afraid it meant infinity. >:(
So if I follow, it just can't be calculated for the specific intance but it can be factored into my team's overall WHIP and ERA.
Indeed sir you are correct.
It's April baseball, this **** happens.
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Updating my earlier question... There is now a "Maximum Games and Innings" link showing up near the bottom of my "My Team" page.
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Updating my earlier question... There is now a "Maximum Games and Innings" link showing up near the bottom of my "My Team" page.
Yeah I saw that after Opening Day last week. Much easier than using the team log and doing a calculation.
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Do NOT try to bully me via pm:
I've spoken to a 3rd manager about what's going on here, and he agrees with me that it's not fair. So the take home message here is that if you veto my trade a 3rd time, myself and 2 other managers will be forced to disallow all trades of your's for the entire season. So please carefully consider what you're doing here before you completely eliminate your option to trade throughout the season.
That's what you wrote in your pm to me, among other tidbits. Yes, it was intended to be private, but if you want to threaten me in this league, do it out front of everyone. I don't give you great amounts of grief publicly or privately, so do not single me out with bull****.
I don't happen to see your trade as fair, here's why:
Kevin doesn't need Pudge in any way, shape or form. He has Posada, a decent catcher who's not going to do him any harm. If he wants a backup, he could do one hell of a lot worse than Johjima who may turn out to be one of the better catchers of the year. He may not, but ain't a whole lot of people sweating a backup catcher at the moment.
You're taking two disabled guys back? Yeah, one of whom is scheduled to pitch on Sunday and should be doing just fine (Sheets). The other guy you can shuttle off to the DL spot and not lose any sleep over. Gagne is a risk, but if he comes back healthy, wow, what a trade for you to bolster your roster in the second half of the season.
In return Kevin also gets Valverde and Duke. You say he's desperate for an RP because Foulke "lost his job". We're two weeks into the season. There's a whole waiver wire out there, so why is Kevin going exclusively to you for an RP? I'd say Kevin's being just a little impatient and lazy here.
Sorry, I see the trade favoring you over the duration of the season and no net benefit to Kevin that he couldn't obtain simply by going to the waiver wire. I don't think Kevin spends enough time thinking on his own and comes to you for advice far too quickly. I don't like the trade but I guess you can make me the Holo Elvis for the year two weeks in. Enjoy winning the season Matt. ::)
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Hey - I'm not commisioner. But I don't feel like being bullied by the 3 of you idiots over some fantasy beefs that date back a couple years.
If you 3 are going to gang up on me, I'm going to gang up on you too. If I'm not allowed to make trades, then you won't be making any either, I'll personally preside over the veto.
You seriously didn't think I was just going to take that from you 3 clowns, I hope you were smart enough to at least realize that.
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That pretty much sums up my feelings as well and explains why I voted against the trade. You're I can't help it if Brent and Scott and or anyone else agreed. You two have a history of agreeing to trades that consistently benefit you more than Kevin and so I voted against it because I didn't feel like it was an even deal.
Are you suggesting that Brent and Scott and I are somehow meeting in a secret smoke-filled room and conspiring to stop your trades out of spite?
Fact is, my vote depended on the players to be moved - and nothing else. If you want to threaten to form little alliances to block trades - I'm fine with that. I'm happy with the team I drafted - but this league is a little over a week old and there shouldn't be any problems at this point.
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Oh, and show Kevin how he can pick up a team closer with 30 save stuff, with a low ERA and WHIP and high K ratio, like the one he asked me for, and Kev will go pick him up right now.
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If you guys want any more comments from me on this, we can do it via PM.
Just don't you 3 be shocked when you can't get a trade through later in the season, because you decided to bust my balls over obtaining 2 injured/high injury risk pitchers in week 2. Really dumb stuff.
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Hey - I'm not commisioner. But I don't feel like being bullied by the 3 of you idiots over some fantasy beefs that date back a couple years.
If you 3 are going to gang up on me, I'm going to gang up on you too. If I'm not allowed to make trades, then you won't be making any either, I'll personally preside over the veto.
You seriously didn't think I was just going to take that from you 3 clowns, I hope you were smart enough to at least realize that.
Looks like while I was typing you went ahead and confirmed my suspicion.
There's no collusion here Dressel, there's no conspiracy and it has nothing to do with some imaginary past grudge. I'm hoping my team will unseat you as champ fair and square - and I'm in second place, I've got every right to vote against a trade that I think will give your team substantially better players than you'll be giving up. And if you didn't want a 1/3rd veto included in trade scenarios, before the season would be the time to do it.
Offer Kevin a legtimately fair trade that doesn't involve you getting potential top-notch players in exchange for a catcher with a good BA and I won't vote against it.
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Matt, take it from me, you are lucky to even be in the league to begin with. Past history has everything to do with that. Everything you two do is going to be evaluated and scrutinized even more than it should be.
Why the **** would you trade for someone you just dropped last week in Gagne who isn't even going to play this year? That right there is enough to me to send up a warning signal.
Its not our fault Kevin missed half of the draft and drafted 6 first basemen...I'm not going to let him trade away all of his good players to you and nothing to anyone else as he has the past 3 years, sorry
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Fine. Argument over, I have nothing else to add.
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Oh, and show Kevin how he can pick up a team closer with 30 save stuff, with a low ERA and WHIP and high K ratio, like the one he asked me for, and Kev will go pick him up right now.
I think it's Kevin's job to figure out who that might be. Not mine to point him out and not yours to babysit him. Nobody's helping me out and I haven't had a lifelong exposure to baseball up here in Canada. Frankly I'm still not even clear on what WHIP is, just that I need it to be low.
As for the high risk pitcher deal, yeah, sure. You and I are both really stupid, aren't we. You picked up Mark Prior 10 days ago, a pitcher that's high risk and on the DL. Shortly after I snapped up Kerry Wood, a pitcher that's high risk and on the DL. Tell me honestly we weren't both really happy to see the Cuspids drop those guys. I don't see any difference with Sheets/Gagne.
Whatever, the waiver wire's where we'll be at for the year, no trades.
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As for the high risk pitcher deal, yeah, sure. You and I are both really stupid, aren't we. You picked up Mark Prior 10 days ago, a pitcher that's high risk and on the DL. Shortly after I snapped up Kerry Wood, a pitcher that's high risk and on the DL. Tell me honestly we weren't both really happy to see the Cuspids drop those guys. I don't see any difference with Sheets/Gagne.
Bug, that's not even relevant. We picked them up for absolutely nothing, we gave nothing up. When it's free, it's not a risk.
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Same ol' **** as always in here, I see! Good Lord... :-X
P.S. Go Angels and Dodgers!!
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Same ol' **** as always in here, I see! Good Lord... :-X
P.S. Go Angels and Dodgers!!
Bah, it's good for the state of the competition...ups the ante a few notches and makes it a grudge match. Good stuff. Makes for a sweeter 3-peat.
:)
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Makes for a sweeter 3-peat.
Makes for a sweeter un-seat?
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Makes for a sweeter 3-peat.
Makes for a sweeter un-seat?
Seriously, you're smoking the funny grass if you think you can do that. Unless I suffer 2-3 key injuries, you can forget it.
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Some things never change. Why am I not suprised to see any of this? And the best part is now I'm not a part of it and it's still the same ol' bull****. Just goes to show who the real problem was (and is) all along.
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I'm under the impression that this little flare up ended over a day ago. Recent arrivals to the conversation notwithstanding...
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Some things never change. Why am I not suprised to see any of this? And the best part is now I'm not a part of it and it's still the same ol' ********. Just goes to show who the real problem was (and is) all along.
Please troll, you're not even worth this 15 seconds of my precious time, otherwise this post would be so long it'd have chapter divisions and a table of contents, just to properly debunk all of your asinine contentions. If you were any more of a mental midget I'd have to donate half of my brain to science before I even reply to your post, just to make this a fair fight. Do yourself a favor and sit this one out.
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It's hard to believe that every single team in Major League Baseball outhit my fantasy team tonight, who could only muster but 2 hits :o Streaky they are, but mighty just the same. I can't believe 9 games into the season Manny Sr. and Manny Jr. (Cantu) haven't hit a lick yet. So they got outhit by every MLB team tonight, and if my fantasy team were a batting order, they'd look like this:
1. Carl Crawford, CF
2. Felipe Lopez, SS
3. Manny Ramirez, LF
4. Jim Thome, 1B
5. Gary Sheffield, RF
6. Eric Chavez, 3B
7. Jorge Cantu, 2B
8. Carlos Beltran, DH
9. Ivan Rodriguez, C
Weird night.
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Batting-wise, my team only managed:
5 hits
2 runs
1 SB
1 RB
Definitely my guys' worst night of the season so far.
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Batting-wise, my team only managed:
5 hits
2 runs
1 SB
1 RB
Definitely my guys' worst night of the season so far.
I was looking around the league and I only saw 3 or 4 players who hit homeruns, total, over 7 fantasy rosters.
Chase Utley hit 2 for Brent.
Power outage tonight...
EDIT: Check that, Juan actually had 4 players go yard. The other 6 teams had, combined, 3 players.
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Some things never change. Why am I not suprised to see any of this? And the best part is now I'm not a part of it and it's still the same ol' ********. Just goes to show who the real problem was (and is) all along.
Please troll, you're not even worth this 15 seconds of my precious time, otherwise this post would be so long it'd have chapter divisions and a table of contents, just to properly debunk all of your asinine contentions. If you were any more of a mental midget I'd have to donate half of my brain to science before I even reply to your post, just to make this a fair fight. Do yourself a favor and sit this one out.
Guess my post, aka the truth, does hurt huh Matt?
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(http://www.redwingsbaseball.com/images/team/Liriano,%20Francisco.jpg)
Best pitcher on the local club? We might see real soon :-*
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Please troll, you're not even worth this 15 seconds of my precious time, otherwise this post would be so long it'd have chapter divisions and a table of contents, just to properly debunk all of your asinine contentions. If you were any more of a mental midget I'd have to donate half of my brain to science before I even reply to your post, just to make this a fair fight. Do yourself a favor and sit this one out.
Guess my post, aka the truth, does hurt huh Matt?
Let. It. Go.
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Best pitcher on the local club? We might see real soon :-*
We already know.
(http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Johan+Santana/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/;_ylt=A9iby4S0EEFEJzsAkbejzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=1287uvi50/EXP=1145201204/*-http%3A//sbastrat.netfirms.com/Johan%20Santana%201.jpg)
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To those who rejected my trade -
I offered Matt a deal for a closer and we went back and forth a bunch of
times and settled on the deal that we accepted twice, and had rejected
twice. After that happened we talked to Juan who said it was fine with him,
and Chris who actually thought that Matt was probably going to get burned on
1 or both of those players and he was fine with the deal, and obviously Matt
and myself are fine with it.
So that leaves Rob, Brent, and Scott who are holding me up. Fellas, I do
not need protection from you three, I WON the football league last year and
I'm 3rd out of 12 in basketball. I know what I am doing. I read fantasy
magazines whenever I can. You guys make fun of the fact that I traded for
Helton from Matt last year and look what he did in the second half of the
season; when he came back from the leg injury in August: .376 BA, 9 HR and 36
RBI in 40 games.
Let me explain something to you guys. I am in last place in saves and I
have virtually no chances of making that up. I took Foulke thinking he
was my rock and now he's not even a closer anymore and Rob already took his
replacement. I have an excess of starting pitching I have freaking last
year's Cy Young award winner Colon, I have Peavy, I have Schilling, Mussina,
Clemens who may come back, and Sheets. So I have a starter to deal. Matt
loves Sheets, and wants to bet on the fact that he's not going to be hurt
again like he is at some point every year. I think Duke can be almost as
good as Sheets and Sheets gets hurt every year. I didn't even draft him
intentionally, I wasn't there for that part.
Last year Zach Duke was my best pitcher in the 2nd half, he won 8 games in
under 3 months and had an ERA at 1.81 with K's. And that's just his rookie
year. I like him, he was on my team last year, and I want him again.
Jose Valverde is the 'Backs closer, he's 26 years old and he didn't become
the closer until August of last year and he still saved 15 games and struck
out SEVENTY FIVE in 66 innings. His ERA was 2.44 and WHIP 1.07. This isn't
a worthy closer for my team?! He's a 4 category stud in the position that I
need. What's Jose Valverde doing this year as closer so far? 3 IP, 2 for 2
in saves chances, and K'd 4 in 3 IP. I want him. And I need him.
I picked up Gagne when Matt dropped him last week but I can't even use him
for at least 2 freaking months. Matt's willing to take him back with Sheets
and has a closer to spare.
And I like Ivan Rodriguez, got a problem with that? I'm dropping Johjima
when my trade goes through. But I don't even care if Matt throws him into
the deal or not, he can keep him if he wants. If you guys would knock it
off already.
So would you guys please butt out of my business so I can get something I
need and get rid of players I don't even want or can't use? I always extend
you guys the same courtesy and I really don't think what you're doing is
fair at all.
Kevin
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So that leaves Rob, Brent, and Scott who are holding me up. Fellas, I do
not need protection from you three
The only team I'm trying to protect, is mine.
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The only team I'm trying to protect, is mine.
If you really cared about protecting your team, you should have let someone else draft it.
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I never thought I'd say this about anyone, but your arrogance makes me cringe almost as much as MisterKenobi's. Almost.
Food for thought.
John
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I never thought I'd say this about anyone, but your arrogance makes me cringe almost as much as MisterKenobi's. Almost.
Food for thought.
John
Well, I'll try to crank it up another notch, I'd hate to be second best.
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To those who rejected my trade -
I offered Matt a deal for a closer and we went back and forth a bunch of
times and settled on the deal that we accepted twice, and had rejected
twice. After that happened we talked to Juan who said it was fine with him,
and Chris who actually thought that Matt was probably going to get burned on
1 or both of those players and he was fine with the deal, and obviously Matt
and myself are fine with it.
So that leaves Rob, Brent, and Scott who are holding me up. Fellas, I do
not need protection from you three, I WON the football league last year and
I'm 3rd out of 12 in basketball. I know what I am doing. I read fantasy
magazines whenever I can. You guys make fun of the fact that I traded for
Helton from Matt last year and look what he did in the second half of the
season; when he came back from the leg injury in August: .376 BA, 9 HR and 36
RBI in 40 games.
Let me explain something to you guys. I am in last place in saves and I
have virtually no chances of making that up. I took Foulke thinking he
was my rock and now he's not even a closer anymore and Rob already took his
replacement. I have an excess of starting pitching I have freaking last
year's Cy Young award winner Colon, I have Peavy, I have Schilling, Mussina,
Clemens who may come back, and Sheets. So I have a starter to deal. Matt
loves Sheets, and wants to bet on the fact that he's not going to be hurt
again like he is at some point every year. I think Duke can be almost as
good as Sheets and Sheets gets hurt every year. I didn't even draft him
intentionally, I wasn't there for that part.
Last year Zach Duke was my best pitcher in the 2nd half, he won 8 games in
under 3 months and had an ERA at 1.81 with K's. And that's just his rookie
year. I like him, he was on my team last year, and I want him again.
Jose Valverde is the 'Backs closer, he's 26 years old and he didn't become
the closer until August of last year and he still saved 15 games and struck
out SEVENTY FIVE in 66 innings. His ERA was 2.44 and WHIP 1.07. This isn't
a worthy closer for my team?! He's a 4 category stud in the position that I
need. What's Jose Valverde doing this year as closer so far? 3 IP, 2 for 2
in saves chances, and K'd 4 in 3 IP. I want him. And I need him.
I picked up Gagne when Matt dropped him last week but I can't even use him
for at least 2 freaking months. Matt's willing to take him back with Sheets
and has a closer to spare.
And I like Ivan Rodriguez, got a problem with that? I'm dropping Johjima
when my trade goes through. But I don't even care if Matt throws him into
the deal or not, he can keep him if he wants. If you guys would knock it
off already.
So would you guys please butt out of my business so I can get something I
need and get rid of players I don't even want or can't use? I always extend
you guys the same courtesy and I really don't think what you're doing is
fair at all.
Kevin
Kevin? Did you type this in Word or copy it from an email or anything like that before you posted it here? The formatting of the text (i.e. how the lines don't go all the way to the end of the window) makes it pretty obvious that you didn't type it up in the Post Reply window.
Just... curious.
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I copied and pasted my stats into my gmail and sent them to a third party to re-read so I didn't look absolutley retarded when I posted it. Just to see if it made sense. Gmail saved my side of the conversation as well, so rather than re-type it, I just ctrl+c and pasted.
Is that ok?
Kevin
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It's just fine - Dressel did a great job proof-reading your post for you.
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Third party-One other than the principals involved in a transaction.
Kevin
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Oh, right. ;)
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Oh, right. ;)
You'll have to forgive Rob, Kevin, he's in last place and doesn't really know what to do with himself right now.
Hey Rob, catch Zach Duke's start yesterday?
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Hey Rob, catch Zach Duke's start yesterday?
Sure did.
Want to trade him to me?
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Hey Rob, catch Zach Duke's start yesterday?
Sure did.
Want to trade him to me?
What is this verb you allude to you called "trade"? We can do that in this league?
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Sure, as long as no set of any 3 owners independently object to a given proposal.
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Sure, as long as no set of any 3 owners independently object to a given proposal.
The 3 of you are looking pretty bad in week 1 of your veto. We'll see how smart you were as the season unfolds. I'm not expecting much.
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Me either, of the four major sports, Baseball is the one I follow the least.
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Sure, as long as no set of any 3 owners independently object to a given proposal.
The 3 of you are looking pretty bad in week 1 of your veto. We'll see how smart you were as the season unfolds. I'm not expecting much.
Yeah, I'm pretty much crapping my drawers two weeks in. There's no one I could possibly find on the waiver wire to adjust my roster. Congrats on winning again this year. :-*
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Sure, as long as no set of any 3 owners independently object to a given proposal.
The 3 of you are looking pretty bad in week 1 of your veto. We'll see how smart you were as the season unfolds. I'm not expecting much.
Yeah, I'm pretty much crapping my drawers two weeks in. There's no one I could possibly find on the waiver wire to adjust my roster. Congrats on winning again this year. :-*
Bug - I meant "looking bad" in "week 1 of the veto" just like it says. In other words, your decision on the trade. Look at outcome of the starts Duke vs. Sheets.
You misread my post.
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Ok, I accept I misread your post. But I never expected an immediate result from the trade anyway.
The point of mine (not directed at you) still bears merit.
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Big special thanks to Brent for (temporarily...) helping me get out of last place.
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Chris banged me out of first - hats off to him his pitching is phenomenal and unfortunately Randy Johnson and Felix Hernandez both got shelled yesterday and temporarily destroyed my stronghold on ERA and WHIP. What a mess that was.
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Best pitcher on the local club? We might see real soon :-*
We already know.
(http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=Johan+Santana/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/;_ylt=A9iby4S0EEFEJzsAkbejzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=1287uvi50/EXP=1145201204/*-http%3A//sbastrat.netfirms.com/Johan%20Santana%201.jpg)
I don't know about that, a lot of the local media are saying Liriano is far and away better than Santana at the same stage and is an injury away from being able to really show his stuff.
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If Liriano does enter the rotation, and you're right about him possibly being better than Santana, with Nathan closing and decent offense from Mauer, Morneau, and Hunter....I'm going to have to change my AL Central pick from the Sox to the Twins. 2 Johans is too much to overcome.
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Well I was doing okay tonight for the first time in a few days until Rodriguez decided to load up the bases with no one out, get two guys out, and then walk in the tying run.
Then of course, he couldn't pick up a win for me which I'm so desperately needing - he blew the game later on.
Oh, and Glavine pitches 8 fantastic innings only to lose 2-1, and Willis hands over a 8-4 lead in the 7th only to watch the Marlins bullpen blow it.
I can't buy a win.
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Offer Kevin a legtimately fair trade that doesn't involve you getting potential top-notch players in exchange for a catcher with a good BA and I won't vote against it.
Okay, trade pending. Trading my first round franchise player should meet with the league's approval. 1st rounder and a couple role players for his 3rd and 8th rounders.
Hopefully this buries the hatchet with the ugly incident earlier.
:)
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Hopefully this buries the hatchet with the ugly incident earlier.
Don't you talk about my mother that way! >:(
Kevin
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Hopefully this buries the hatchet with the ugly incident earlier.
Don't you talk about my mother that way! >:(
Kevin
Oh man, I thought we agreed we were never going to talk about when I came to your house that day last February.
I was talking about our pending deal, dummy.
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Deal doesn't bother me really, if Kevin wants to throw guys away, that's up to him and this deal I judge as more fair than the preceding, so I won't stand in the way.
Must say I'm a little baffled as to why Kevin doesn't approach anyone else for trades though :P
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Deal doesn't bother me really, if Kevin wants to throw guys away, that's up to him and this deal I judge as more fair than the preceding, so I won't stand in the way.
Must say I'm a little baffled as to why Kevin doesn't approach anyone else for trades though :P
Actually, I had my eye on one of your players, but I had PM'd Zod and Scott about this proposale previously. :-\ I think this one suits me better, and if you'd like, I can PM you the same thing I sent Scott and Rob, and you can decide for yourself.
Also, I'm good friends with Matt, so I guess I'm just inclined to propose somthing his way, or gander at somthing he proposes at me. :)
Kevin
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That works, whatever is fine by me. I'm pretty pleased by my pitching right now and think it will only get better in the next while. I'll suggest I'm surprised by my offense though (and disappointed) though I think it's early for me to worry about being so low in SB at this point. I'm definitely lacking in RBI/HR/avg, but that may come around in time. Once Woods or Crisp come off the DL, I'll be in better shape I think
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After the first week I was thrilled with my team's hitting and worried about the pitching - now I've finally gotten some quality starts from what I think is a pretty decent rotation my era and whip are down, wins are up - but strike outs are non-existant. Meanwhile, Teixeira had what might be his second decent game of the season last night, and Wright has been in a slump for a week or so now. These guys just aren't hitting very well right now.
I thought I'd drafted sluggers with Teixeira and Jones and Tejada and even Wright - but I'm last in HR's... and my portion of the Yankee outfield has been a relative disappointment.
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I think I'm primed to make my permanent run into the 50's now by June 1st and remain there the rest of the season.
2 words: Jonny Gomes.
He will equal Manny Ramirez. I believe my offense won't miss a beat without Manny. Gomes will fill in just like Manny never left.
My rotation would make pitching coaches cream in their pants:
Randy Johnson
Rich Harden
Jake Peavy
Ben Sheets
King Felix
Mark Prior (temporary DL)
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Glad you're happy with where you're at Matt. I'm not yet ready to panic. My pitching is doing fine, it's only foible is my desire to keep putting in everyone all the time.
I'm really down in some of the hitting categories and that's a bit of a surprise. Lots of guys on my roster in the top 50 and they should yet come around. Biggest surprise is how poorly I'm doing in the SB category.
I'm not ready to panic yet though, lots of room to move up.
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Glad you're happy with where you're at Matt. I'm not yet ready to panic. My pitching is doing fine, it's only foible is my desire to keep putting in everyone all the time.
I'm really down in some of the hitting categories and that's a bit of a surprise. Lots of guys on my roster in the top 50 and they should yet come around. Biggest surprise is how poorly I'm doing in the SB category.
I'm not ready to panic yet though, lots of room to move up.
The most striking thing about the whole draft in my opinion was the balance of Bug's team. Seemed like every player had 20-30 HR potential, good BA, and most importantly 15+ SB potential. The balance was astonishing.
For some reason in this first month, the SB's haven't panned out.
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Last night was a **** party and my players were the guests of honor:
Peavy got no run support then got shelled in the 7th inning.
Brad Lidge blew another save.
Carlos Beltran sat out with a hamstring.
Jorge Cantu sat out with a foot injury.
Carl Crawford was out for family reasons.
Net loss: 5 points.
April baseball, April baseball....
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I share your pain.
Coco Crisp - bunged finger (don't pick your nose)
Huston Street - you pulled a chest muscle :o ???
Arod - nice 9-1 Yankees, where was he?
Chad Tracy - 7-0 win - where'd ya go?
The bright side is some guys remembered how to run last night and I picked up three stolen bases.
My team needs some tweaking yet, but I still don't think I should be worried. Could use some power, but all things in time.
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Arod - nice 9-1 Yankees, where was he?
That's how I feel about Teixiera - the Rangers keep blowing people up but all the Home Runs are coming from Nevin, Blaylock and Mench.
I'm sticking with him because he's got to come out of it eventually, but so far my #1 pick has been good for crap.
David Wright has been slumping pretty badly lately, and Scott Rolen was out... Matsui hasn't done very much lately either. Even Andru Jones who started off very hot has been real quiet for about a week now.
Thank God for Tejada or I'd have no offensive production at all right now .
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One spot I'm dissapointed with my team is Saves, I have 4 closers (Nathan, Rivera, Hoffman and Wickman) who should legitimately get close to 40 saves each and all 4 have 4 or less right now.
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That's the one spot on my team that I'm very happy with. Pouncing on Paplebon when he got his first save was my best move so far. It took me awhile to get a few wins, so I'm behind in those - and strikeouts have been scarce.
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Sweet, Sheets and Harden were rolling along today allowing 2 ER in 9 IP combined, with 15 K's, when suddenly Rich Harden has to leave in the 4th with "an apparent hand injury."
Harden's replacement? Calero enters the game and gives up a grand slam to Kevin Mench.
Perfect.
::)
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Saw that... I'm having an up and down afternoon...
Arroyo throws 8 innings of 1-hit, shutout ball with 8 K's and 2 BB's and will earn his fourth win any minute now...
Isringhausen comes in and gives up a homerun in the ninth with 2 outs...
So now I'm hoping that he can somehow get a W out of it... The good news is that Pujols is about to come up with 2 men on and one out in the bottom of the ninth.
Edit: and Pujols just drove in the winning run - so my day just got a little better.
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Arroyo keeps getting better. He's really turning into a stud.
Harden's status has been updated now, it was not a hand injury, he was having back spasms.
Calero still really ****** me up good by serving up that grand slam, Harden was cruising with 6 K's through 3 IP.
Sheets is about to get the win though with authority, and Turnbow the save.
Not all bad.
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Is Harden on the hook for the runs that Calero gave up?
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Don't look now (and I'm sure it won't last the evening) but I'm half a point away from going from worst to first.
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Is Harden on the hook for the runs that Calero gave up?
Any runner that was on base when the starting pitcher left the game is the starter's responsibility even if the reliever lets them score. So in this case with the bases loaded after Harden's injury happen, Calero came in and gave up a grand slam to Kevin Mench. The first 3 to cross the plate went on Harden's tab, and Mench's crossing of the plate was Calero's responsibility.
I'm praying Harden didn't seriously hurt himself. I hate when pitchers reach out with their bare throwing hand to stop a hard hit ball. That's when he wrenched (or God knows what, MRI results pending) his back.
I'm 1 injury away from having to drop a stud fantasy player, with Carlos Beltran, Jorge Cantu, and Mark Prior already on the shelf, I can't take any more injuries without having to let someone I want, go to waivers.
It's a miracle I'm still in first at this point. Not a good April.
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That was how I thought it worked - thanks for the detailed explanation.
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The official word on Harden now is a "strained back muscle" and a trip to the 15 day DL. I can field a pretty nice team between my injured players on the DL or that I released:
Carlos Beltran
Jorge Cantu
Rich Harden
Mark Prior
Eric Gagne
That's quite a month!!
I can't absorb much more of this.
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Well even if it doesn't end up this way when the games are over for the night - I've officially gone from worst to first! For now...
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Well even if it doesn't end up this way when the games are over for the night - I've officially gone from worst to first! For now...
Yeah I just saw that you and I are tied for first at 43.5, my squad is hitting .080 tonight.
So sad.
:)
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I've got 44.5 now. :)
My guys hit .393 tonight and the four home runs I got is the most I've gotten on any given night - thank God Wright woke up tonight...he's been cold lately.
And how about Mench homering in his 7th straight game... I wish I'd picked him up after his third in a row... ::)
I'm sure it won't last - but it's good to be out of the cellar for now.
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I'm kicking myself for not picking up Otsuka... listening to the radio here in Dallas I knew that this was coming any day now - but hadn't thought about it in a day or two - and missed the chance.
So here's hoping that he blows more saves that Cordero did... ::)
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Holy crap did Damon blow up today.... 3/3 with two HR's, 3 RBI, 3 Runs, and a SB - and it's only the fourth inning.
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Holy crap did Damon blow up today.... 3/3 with two HR's, 3 RBI, 3 Runs, and a SB - and it's only the fourth inning.
Ha ha! I've been watching this whole game, and not only did Damon go ape**** with the bat, but Gary Sheffield was just knocked out cold during a collision at first base with Shea Hillenbrand. KO'd.
My luck continues!
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Gary Sheffield, down.
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With everything that's happened to Harden, Prior, Gagne, Cantu, Beltran, and now Sheff, I am officially conceding April and May. Hopefully by June this team will be healthy and doing what it should be doing, maintaining 50+ points in the standings.
****.
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Well even if it doesn't end up this way when the games are over for the night - I've officially gone from worst to first! For now...
Zod - funny thing just happened, a few swings of the bat by Jonny Gomes and Josh Willingham that deposited baseballs over the outfield fences just sent me from 4th place to 1st place. Current snapshot:
Dressel's Infirmary 44.5
The Zods 44.0
El Diablos 44.0
I don't have a clue how my team is even on it's feet right now. My squad in a healthy state is going to be a holy terror. Too much fun.
:)
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It's sitting at:
The Zods 45.5
Dressel's Infirmary 44.0
El Diablos 43.5
Not that I'm bragging - first place is a very fickle thing at this point in the season.
I'm just happy not to be sitting down in dead last at 33 points or so like I was a little over a week ago.
I apparenty just lost Brian Roberts to a groin injury, Barrett is coming back from a jammed finger, Helton is still on the DL, and Tejada is nursing a bum knee - at least he's getting to DH in the meantime.
Not as bad as your situation, but I'm starting to get slightly concerned - mainly about Roberts.
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It's sitting at:
The Zods 45.5
Dressel's Infirmary 44.0
El Diablos 43.5
Not that I'm bragging - first place is a very fickle thing at this point in the season.
I'm just happy not to be sitting down in dead last at 33 points or so like I was a little over a week ago.
I apparenty just lost Brian Roberts to a groin injury, Barrett is coming back from a jammed finger, Helton is still on the DL, and Tejada is nursing a bum knee - at least he's getting to DH in the meantime.
Not as bad as your situation, but I'm starting to get slightly concerned - mainly about Roberts.
Roberts may become a problem. He could miss anything from 1 game to 2 months, depending on the severity of that problem. Groin injuries are a bitch.
Tejada is the most durable player in baseball. I don't think he's missed a game in 5 years. A couple years ago he had to sit out a spring training game to go get a tooth pulled I think, and that was it. But Tejada won't miss any time.
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Yeah, the Roberts thing has me very worried - I'm going to see if I can't find some updated info on the internet since Yahoo doesn't have anything substantial on it.
Tejada has started 944 consecutive games - so almost 6 seasons straight.
EDIT: looks like Roberts just got placed on the 15 day DL...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/wires/04/30/2010.ap.bba.orioles.roberts.0304/
Anyone interested in trading for Todd Helton?
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I woke up with the intention of finding a temporary 2B today to fill in for at least the next two weeks - and to my suprise, Wigginton (and it wasn't this way yesterday) is now listed as (2B, 3B).
What good fortune.
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I woke up with the intention of finding a temporary 2B today to fill in for at least the next two weeks - and to my suprise, Wigginton (and it wasn't this way yesterday) is now listed as (2B, 3B).
What good fortune.
That almost offsets the poor fortune of the unseat you suffered at my hand :D
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For now.
Anyone interested in Dontrelle Willis? I'm looking to unload a pitcher and he's the lucky winner - I think he could be obtained for a good price, but I'm only looking for another bat.. I'd probably be willing to package him with one of my batters for a slightly better batter.
Like Damon and Willis for Soriano... ;)
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I like Willis, but he doesn't strike enough batters out for my style of starting pitcher, and I don't think he's going to garner enough run support to really rake in the wins. Plus I already added Peavy and Sheets for Manny, and replaced him with Gomes. Willis' ERA and WHIP will be solid though.
He's still a decent pitcher, and looking at the rosters I think Scott is in the biggest need for a SP of Willis' caliber.
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Speaking of pitchers, what's up with Capuano :o I keep looking at how I'm going to make space on my roster when Crisp/Woods come off DL and I keep wanting to drop a SP but they keep winning. I thought it would be Lee or Capuano but the underperformer of the bunch thus far is Petitte. They're eating up innings like crazy, but if they're winning and have good inning:strike out ratios, I'll live with it.
Benched Utley today too, so expect him to light it up. ::)
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How's this for a night...
C : 1/2, 0,0,0,0, .500
1B: 1/2, 0,0,1,0, .500
2B: 0/4, 0,0,0,0, .000
3B: 0/4, 0,0,0,0, .500
SS: 0/4, 1,0,0,0, .000
OF: 0/4, 0,0,0,0, .000
OF: 0/4, 0,0,0,0, .000
OF: 0/4, 0,0,1,0, .000
U : 0/4, 0,0,0,0, .000
Total: 2/31, 1,0,1,0, .065
******* pathetic.
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The dark side of stat tracker. Ignorance is bliss. Of course I may drop into last place again tonight... ::)
Oh and I figured out who to drop down the road ;)
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The dark side of stat tracker. Ignorance is bliss. Of course I may drop into last place again tonight... ::)
Oh and I figured out who to drop down the road ;)
You've got a hold of 4th place by one point at the moment.
And my evening was semi-saved by a late 2 run HR by Tejada. But it's still pathetic.
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Whew. 1:49 AM and I spent my night from 10 PM onward passed out on the couch. Damn that was a good nap.
Just woke up to find that I had the same offensive night that Zod did. But my pitching came through and Jake Peavy gave me a real quality start and a win, and 3 saves by my closers.
Dressel by 1.
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Yeah, I was doing great for most of the evening... Saw Willis take a 5-1 lead into the 6th thinking to myself, that's an easy win...
Whoops.
Arroyo was solid again at least.
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Like Damon and Willis for Soriano... ;)
Let me peek the stats...
Again. :P
Kevin
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Don't forget about Damon's 3/5, 2 HR, 3 RBI, 5 Run, 1 SB night the other day. ;) ;D
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Soriano knocked one out of the park...
Interesting.
Kevin
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It happens.
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Soriano knocked one out of the park...
Interesting.
Kevin
Not just his 8th homerun of the season. That thing was an absolute rocket, one of the hardest hit baseballs I have ever seen. If you get a chance to see that highlight, it's a thing of beauty.
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This was the one that was fair by just a few feet?
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This was the one that was fair by just a few feet?
I think so, Left Field? It was a missile.
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That was the one...
And in other news, after three days of no offense and horrible outings in the last two days by Willis, Buerlhe, Garcia, and Halladay, and Paplebon... my team is dropping like a ******* rock.
Literally 5 out of my last 6 pitchers who got into a game gave up a bunch of runs and hardly struck out anyone - Arroyo being the lone exception.
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That was the one...
And in other news, after three days of no offense and horrible outings in the last two days by Willis, Buerlhe, Garcia, and Halladay, and Paplebon... my team is dropping like a ******* rock.
Literally 5 out of my last 6 pitchers who got into a game gave up a bunch of runs and hardly struck out anyone - Arroyo being the lone exception.
It happens. But if you keep throwing Willis, Buerhle, Garcia, Halladay and Papelbon for every one of their starts, in the end, the numbers will be good.
On the other hand, I must need my head examined for throwing Felix Hernandez today. This is going to be interesting, and I think there's a great chance that he is going to get HAMMERED. But I'm still clinging to the idiotic idea that after the 5 starts he's thrown, aka "batting practice", he's going to be some kind of ace again this year.
If Harden and Prior were healthy right now, King Felix would be on the bench.
And if he hurls another nice 4 IP, 7 ER, 10 H, (despite the K's) you all just might be seeing him on the free agent wire.
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I'm sorry, were you describing Andy Pettitte?
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I'm sorry, were you describing Andy Pettitte?
I guess I was, inadvertently.
But check it out. 1st inning, King Felix puts the first 2 on base and then Jim Thome slugs a 3 run HR.
I ******* knew it.
At least Thome's mine too though.
But if Felix gives up any more runs today, he's not pitching for me for a long time.
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My guys must have heard me bitching about them in here to bounce back so big this evening.
So I'd like to continue bitching - you guys suck.
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My guys must have heard me bitching about them in here to bounce back so big this evening.
So I'd like to continue bitching - you guys suck.
My God that really was a phenomenal offensive outburst, and pitching performance:
14/35, 9 runs, 5 HR, 14 RBI, .400 BA
8.2 IP, 1 W, 1 SV, 12 Ks, 0.00 ERA, 0.58 WHIP
Can't ask for more than that.
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Sure can't... the one guy on the team who didn't do anything last night was Tejada, and he's been my best player up to this point.
By the way... even though I think the moment has passed and there wasn't really going to be a deal anyway - I think the window on my being willing to trade Damon has closed.
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Sure can't... the one guy on the team who didn't do anything last night was Tejada, and he's been my best player up to this point.
By the way... even though I think the moment has passed and there wasn't really going to be a deal anyway - I think the window on my being willing to trade Damon has closed.
I had Tejada last year, he was my team MVP in the first half. The second half, he tanked.
Kev told me about the offer of Willis and Damon for Soriano, and I told him that I would not part with Soriano for that combination, but I would for Halladay and Damon.
Johnny Damon is going to produce .300 BA 15 HR 75 RBI 100 R and anywhere from 20 - 40 SB's. Traditionally here in NY, Torre does not like to turn the baserunners loose. Damon has already stolen 7 bags, but I'd not be shocked if that tails off.
Dontrelle Willis...who knows. Maybe he'll turn in 15 W 3.00 ERA and 1.10 WHIP with 170 K's, but I think he's likely to have a down year, especially in the wins department because the Marlins have the worst offense in the National League. I'd say in all of baseball, but the Royals exist, so, yeah. Also, Willis' start of 1-2, 4.38 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, 27K/39 IP does not really have me chomping at the bit.
Kev hates when I tell him this, but Alfonso Soriano is a total fantasy stud. Chances are he'll hit .260, but he probably will turn out 35 HR 100+ RBI 100 R and 30+ swipes from a shallow fantasy position, 2B. On top of that, he has OF eligibility so you have to love the versatility there. Soriano is a traditional 1st round draft choice, but this year he had that beef with Frank Robinson and sat out in Spring Training, staging an insurrection over having to play the OF, and that dropped him down to about 20th overall in most drafts, down from his perennial 5th to 8th overall. The thing is, Soriano is coming up on being a free agent in the offseason, and he thinks putting up his phenomenal numbers at 2B will garner him more money than it will from the OF. But, apparently looking at his .300 BA 8 HR 17 RBI 16 R 5 SB start in a non-hitter friendly park, I'd say he's over it. Soriano is a first rounder again.
It was a decent offer, but I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on that either. Halladay in place of Willis, I'd have done it.
:)
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Kev told me about the offer of Willis and Damon for Soriano, and I told him that I would not part with Soriano for that combination, but I would for Halladay and Damon.
Oh I knew you had... Kevin was all ready to go Damon for Soriano but then asked to 'sleep on it' - next thing I know, 3 hours later (nap on it?) he'd come back with the offer of Damon and Halladay, which I rejected.
When asked what happened to the other offer, he said it was just his Yankee vein throbbing - but it was obvious that he'd gotten advice from you.
Despite a horrible outing against the Redsox this week, I'm counting on Halladay to be my ace and I'd only trade him if a comprable SP were involved. Soriano is worth more than Damon, but I don't think he's worth THAT much more than Damon.
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The newest Big Board rankings have Soriano closer to where he ought to be:
1 Albert Pujols, StL, 1B 14 HR in April set ML record
2 Alex Rodriguez, NYY, 3B Just a matter of time before he kicks it into high gear
3 Vladimir Guerrero, LAA, OF Power coming around w/ 3 HR in past
4 David Ortiz, Bos, 1B 10 HRs has him in AL HR lead mix
5 Manny Ramirez, Bos, OF Take solace: Apr/May were lackluster in '05 too
6 Mark Teixeira, Tex, 1B Waiting for power to be unleashed (3 HR, 12 RBI)
7 David Wright, NYM, 3B His 6 SBs already is thing of beauty for owners
8 Miguel Tejada, Bal, SS 14-game hit streak; 16 multi-hit games
9 Alfonso Soriano, Was, 2B C'mon, don't we all owe Soriano an apology
10 Lance Berkman, Hou, OF Only NL hitter staying in Pujols' rear-view mirror
11 Michael Young, Tex, SS Past 15: 26-for-65 (.400), 12 Runs
12 Chris Carpenter, StL, SP 3-0, but 0.86 in other 3 starts (0-1)
13 Pedro Martinez, NYM, SP No more than 6 hits allowed in any of 5 starts (5-0)
14 Bobby Abreu, Phi, OF Overall, #'s good, but 0 HRs in past 10
15 Vernon Wells, Tor, OF Has hit in 22 of 23 games (.396, 9 HR, 25 RBI)
16 Andruw Jones, Atl, OF Past 8: 5-for-26 (.192), 0 HRs, 0 RBIs, 10 Ks
17 Jason Bay, Pit, OF Has been steady, but yet to catch fire
18 Jose Reyes, NYM, SS Struggling w/BA, but 5 SBs in past 6 (leads ML w/ 11)
19 Johan Santana, Min, SP 10 Ks in past outing, but still 3 ER vs. KC
20 Miguel Cabrera, Fla, O/3 Not seeing many ABs w/ RISP
21 Victor Martinez, Cle, C Leads catchers in 4 of 5 roto categories
22 Ichiro, Sea, OF BA has risen to .280 range to go w/healthy 8 SBs
23 Carlos Lee, Mil, OF 10th HR, 20th RBI came vs. C. Zambrano Sunday
24 Gary Sheffield, NYY, OF His 36 ABs w/RISP leads the league
25 Jim Thome, ChW, 1B One of few w/ at least 20 RBIs and 20 Runs
26 Derek Jeter, NYY, SS Past 7: 14-for-28 (.500)
27 Carl Crawford, TB, OF Sunday brought 1st HR, 6th SB
28 Travis Hafner, Cle, UT 7 HRs in 1st 11 games, 0 HRs in past 12 games
29 Curt Schilling, Bos, SP Roughed up @ Cle (5 ER) and 1st loss @ TB
30 Carlos Delgado, NYM, 1B Solid, steady production (.298, 9 HR, 20 RBI, 18 R)
31 Roy Oswalt, Hou, SP Has alternated great starts with mediocre ones
32 Jake Peavy, SD, SP 2 bad outings (Col, Ari) mask 3 great ones
33 Morgan Ensberg, Hou, 3B His power streak has subsided, but #'s still pretty
34 Chase Utley, Phi, 2B His 4 HRs came in just 2 of his 24 games
35 Chone Figgins, LAA, 2/3/O SBs and Runs starting to flow like expected
36 Eric Chavez, Oak, 3B Enjoying rare April warmth (9 HRs, 20 RBIs)
37 Paul Konerko, ChW, 1B Meeting expectations, and more (.372 BA)
38 Roy Halladay, Tor, SP Just 1 ER combined in past two wins (vs. Bos, NYY)
39 Adam Dunn, Cin, OF Back to old self: BA in decline, Ks up, but 9 HRs play
40 Felipe Lopez, Cin, SS 9 SBs making up for power, BA dips
41 Randy Johnson, NYY, SP Like Oswalt, alternatingly good and bad
42 Jason Giambi, NYY, 1B 35 HRs, 89 RBI in past 4 months -
43 Todd Helton, Col, 1B Will rejoin team Wednesday (inflamed intestine)
44 Juan Pierre, ChC, OF Nothing wrong w/17 R, 8 SBs, but just 2 RBIs
45 Grady Sizemore, Cle, OF Slapping plenty of hits, but 1 HR, 2 SBs disappointing
46 Carlos Beltran, NYM, OF 4th HR came in 2nd game back from hammy layoff
47 Jonny Gomes, TB, OF 32 HRs in past 126 games -
48 Jimmy Rollins, Phi, SS 17 Runs, 4 SBs solid, but #'s don't meet expectations
49 Aramis Ramirez, ChC, 3B At Mendoza Line -- 2 HRs in past 7 a decent step
50 Carlos Zambrano, ChC, SP Each of 6 winless starts include 3+ BBs
Soriano's 9th overall, Halladay 38th, and Damon outside the top 50.
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Deal doesn't bother me really, if Kevin wants to throw guys away, that's up to him and this deal I judge as more fair than the preceding, so I won't stand in the way.
This comment is still bugging me a little, for Morgbug to say "if Kevin wants to throw guys away" is totally stupid. Look at the latest O-rank posted above, Manny is ranked fifth, Peavy 32nd and Sheets not in the top 50. I gave Kevin a comparable deal involving a 1st rounder, to the one Zod offered for Soriano with Willis/Damon.
The reason why I was trading my first round pick for 2 nice SPs is that I had 5 OF's Crawford, Beltran, Sheffield, Manny, and Gomes, and using the utility I could only use absolute max, 4 of them anyhow. In my view, Jonny Gomes is going to produce Manny Ramirez's numbers this season, so trading my first round pick wasn't as big of a blow as it should have been.
Kev didn't "throw guys away" Bug he traded his 3rd and 8th rounders for a 1st round Offensive Menace. What Zod offered him, Willis and Damon for Soriano is the same type of deal.
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Yeah but I don't NEED Soriano as badly as I need Halladay and Damon considering that Brian Roberts is my starting 2B. It would be like trading Halladay for a slight upgrade to my outfield - which isn't that great an idea.
Thinking about it on the way home you've almost convinced me that I should throw caution to the wind and go for it...
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What about Damon and Halladay and Willis, for Soriano and Clemens?
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Gee Rob, way to show your true side. There's no difference in me asking a friend what they think about a potential trade, just like looking up the stats. I double checked what Matt suggested, and it did make more sense than that.
And Damon was an impulse suggestion due to my Yankee vein. ::)
Kevin
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What's wrong with me figuring out that you were intent on a trade, ran it by Dressel, and changed your mind?
My 'true side' is observant-fantasy-baseball-participant. Like I said, it was obvious that you'd gotten advice from Dressel. What's so horrible about that?
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What about Damon and Halladay and Willis, for Soriano and Clemens?
Let me make sure I'm reading this correctly:
Damon
Halladay
Willis
FOR
Clemens
Soriano
Is that the offer?
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What's wrong with me figuring out that you were intent on a trade, ran it by Dressel, and changed your mind?
My 'true side' is observant-fantasy-baseball-participant. Like I said, it was obvious that you'd gotten advice from Dressel. What's so horrible about that?
Don't worry I think Kev just misread something. There's nothing horrible about getting advice from another owner. Before I traded Manny Ramirez, I asked Chris and Juan their thoughts.
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What about Damon and Halladay and Willis, for Soriano and Clemens?
Let me make sure I'm reading this correctly:
Damon
Halladay
Willis
FOR
Clemens
Soriano
Is that the offer?
I'm throwing it up for discussion. I would have to look into whether or not Clemens is actually going to sign with someone this year and I'm not necessarily comfortable with it.
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My bad. I thought you were spiteful towards me about it. It didn't make much sense to me, because I had gone to a couple of you's about a trade before.
Again, my bad.
Kevin
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No sweat
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Geez, is this Fantasy Baseball or Fantasy Football? Because looking at the list of injuries on my squad, I think these guys are putting on shoulder pads and helmets and fighting for extra yardage after the catch or something.
Gary Sheffield says today that he's likely heading to the 15 day DL because of a left wrist injury he sustained in the collision with Hillenbrand. Worse yet, he pinch it on Friday and now it can't be retroactive to the date of the injury.
Jorge Cantu still out with a broken foot.
Ben Sheets got scratched from his start today for....well....depends what you read. One source says he has an upper respiratory infection that normally develops into vestibular neuritis for him, and throws his balance off for a month. He went on the DL both of the previous seasons with that. Another source says he shoulder was just sore, and that he's going to start Thursday vs. San Diego. I am worried about this one.
Rich Harden is going to be out at least a month with his back strain.
Mark Prior has been out since March with a pulled muscle ???
Carlos Beltran missed 2 weeks of action with a hamstring injury.
I cannot believe my team is holding 49 points in the standings right now. Looking at the breakdown, I am getting virtually nothing in Wins, WHIP, and ERA, all pitching categories. If/when my pitching rotation is healthy, I hope by June 1st I have five of my 6 aces firing on all 8 cylinders, I think I'm going to gain about 9 points in the standings at least and be holding down a fat 58 points in the standings.
But for now I'm pretty much ravaged by injuries.
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Looks like my guys have decided to keep you company ::)
Contreras suddenly has a pinched nerve and is put on the 15 day DL. Where'd that come from? Not at all liking the sound of it.
Fielder is out there now with a 'groin' problem. If hockey's any indication, that's just not good. He's supposed to be back in a day or so.
Wood should come back, but we'll see how he holds up.
Crisp is still out.
Then my pitching has gone to ****. Carpenter is pitching ok, but not getting any wins. Pettitte just plain sucks and can't win a game. On top of that, I can't buy a save. Well, I can, but Street was out for weeks and my other guys just haven't stepped up at all. And I get to miss at least one start from Contreras as mentioned above, if not 2 or possibly more. Yeesh.
Oh, and thus far I'm really ecstatic with Arod's production >:( I'm sure he'll come around and his numbers aren't really horrible, but for the first pick overall he's been disappointing thus far, relatively speaking.
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Oh, and thus far I'm really ecstatic with Arod's production >:( I'm sure he'll come around and his numbers aren't really horrible, but for the first pick overall he's been disappointing thus far, relatively speaking.
That's how I feel about Texieria - he's doing okay, but no where near as well as I was expecting when I picked him at #4.
Rolen and Helton were both sick and Roberts is out with the groin injury - he's the one I miss the most since he had 9 SB's by about April 20th...
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Current disabled list leader board:
Dressel's Rebels 5
The Famine 4
Canuckleheads 3
The Bi-Polars 1
El Diablos 1
The Cuspids 1
Minnesota Muskies 0
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Looks like I'll probably have two DL by tomorrow.
Anyone want to get your guesses down now as to how long I'll be without Matsui?
I think it's going to be a long long time - 2 months minimum, probably longer.
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Just heard broken wrist - God knows how bad the break is, but he's having surgery tomorrow - so much for that.
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I watched the game Rob, I knew it was over for him as soon as it happened. And as a Yankee fan, it sucks to see my team with Sheff and Godzilla on the shelf. Bad stuff.
BTW, your avatar is gross.
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BTW, your avatar is gross.
Thanks. It's from Scanners - and I made it all by myself.
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I heard 3 months for Matsui last night... Once he gets listed as DL I'll throw him on there and see how it goes - but I may have to drop him next time someone on my team hits the DL - which sucks.
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I can't shed any tears for you yet Rob, I wouldn't mind 5 DL designations on our rosters myself.
Starting Pitchers:
Rich Harden DL - 1 more month
Ben Sheets DL - who knows how long
Mark Prior DL - 1 more month
OF:
Gary Sheffield DL - 2 weeks to possible year ending surgery
2B/3B:
Jorge Cantu - Probably 2 more weeks
I literally am handcuffed from doing any add/drops right now.
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I'm certainly not looking for sympathy. And personally, I'm in favor of more DL spots in all leagues - at least 2, I'd be for 3 as well. I think it sucks that we have to drop players just because they get hurt... if this game is supposed to mimic the real thing to a degree, this is one area in which it does not do so. It's not like the Yankees have to look into cutting Matsui forever just because he's hurt. At the same time, you shouldn't be able to stock up on DL players just so you can move them in and out once they get healthy - but if a guy is already on your team and gets hurt, you shouldn't lose him over it.
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At the same time, you shouldn't be able to stock up on DL players just so you can move them in and out once they get healthy - but if a guy is already on your team and gets hurt, you shouldn't lose him over it.
I think that's the rub in just about any league out there Rob. No matter the best intentions of almost everyone involved, invariably, no matter where the league is held or what the sport is, some jackass goes and violates the rule. I think that's why we tend to carry extra bench spots, to account for the extra injuries. But it sure comes at a price.
I've been very fortunate thus far with my hitters with only Crisp being badly hurt. I lost a couple of guys with pretty minor injuries and I'm still concerned about Fielder's groin (yes, that does sound wrong) but otherwise it's been the pitching that's been irritating. Street should have been a solid Save guy but a quick injury and he's not being used so much. I'm carrying way too many pitchers for my liking now, just hoping some of those guys settle into their roles like they're expected to.
Knocking on Wood.
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Abreu or Vlad can be had for a 2B or SP or RP
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Watching my 3 ace starters rehab on the DL is worse than watching paint dry. It takes for-*******-ever. And in the meantime I am getting killed.
Time to send out a speedy recovery wish to my fallen heroes:
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I must have picked up 5 or 6 points in the past 2 days. My staff is really starting to come around. I was surprised as all hell to get Kazmir off waivers as I thought for sure someone was going to claim him. The day I went to pick up the first time Rob had snatched him (same with ******* Liriano who I shouldn't have cut..bastard Brent!)
Also nice to see Podsednik stealing some bags again
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I must have picked up 5 or 6 points in the past 2 days. My staff is really starting to come around. I was surprised as all hell to get Kazmir off waivers as I thought for sure someone was going to claim him. The day I went to pick up the first time Rob had snatched him (same with ******* Liriano who I shouldn't have cut..bastard Brent!)
Also nice to see Podsednik stealing some bags again
You have had an amazing run this past week. The funny thing about a 6 point gain in 2 days is - easy come, easy go. That gain can evaporate just as fast as it came.
Scott Kazmir was an amazing pickup. I drafted the guy. I probably shouldn't have cut him, but let's face it, he's only been this good for a month. I mainly cut him because of his WHIP and history of being wild, and I already had 6 staff aces. But when injuries struck Rich Harden, Ben Sheets, and Mark Prior slow to come back, I really wanted Kazmir back. But because of the additional injuries to Cantu and Sheffield (and possible pending DL stints for Beltran and Crawford), I went to pick up Kazmir a few days ago when you did but couldn't drop anybody. I literally couldn't part with anybody without having a hole in my starting roster. I did have the waiver priority over you I believe. I was actually thinking about dropping Orlando Cabrera and just going without a shortstop for 2 weeks until Cantu came back. In retrospect, that might have been a good idea.
Still and all, within a few weeks I might be throwing Peavy, Harden, Prior, Sheets, and then whoever is better between Big Unit and King Felix, and that will be adequate, and probably superior pitching. In the meantime, my pitching staff couldn't be any more decimated than it is.
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The funny thing about Liriano is I picked him up after Scott dropped him, hoping for him to get some saves :P Right after that the yahoo news is screaming to grab him because he'll be starting. Alrighty then, I can handle that, so thanks Scott.
As for Kazmir, I had him through most of last year and I would have picked him up again after Dressel dropped him, but I didn't have any room. Too damn many pitchers as it is. And holy crap, could Pettitte suck more? Yeesh.
I was ready to start crying about injuries on top of all of that because Ramirez had been out 3-4 games with a shoulder injury and not placed on the DL. Well, he's back today and I have nothing to complain about with him. I guess having Rollins as a backup isn't all bad. Now if Lee can come back from his mini-slump and Hernandez can get his average back up there again.
More fun this year though, lots of movement in the order.
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As I've said before I can't believe how bad I'm sucking at Saves. The teams are winning either blowouts or losing I guess...plus Mariano has blown how many now...3?
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The funny thing about Liriano is I picked him up after Scott dropped him, hoping for him to get some saves :P Right after that the yahoo news is screaming to grab him because he'll be starting. Alrighty then, I can handle that, so thanks Scott.
As for Kazmir, I had him through most of last year and I would have picked him up again after Dressel dropped him, but I didn't have any room. Too damn many pitchers as it is.
I noticed your excess of pitching, as of right now you've thrown 100 more innings than I have.
Time for a symbolic expression of my fantasy baseball mood tonight, despite the current standings:
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My injury issues are ironing out.
Gary Sheffield played a rehab game, then left in the 8th inning to drive to Boston. Apparently he's cured and game ready.
Jorge Cantu says he's returning June 1st.
Having those 2 back will give my offense a huge shot in the arm, bigger power numbers.
On the pitching front...
Jake Peavy has 3 hit the Braves tonight through 7 IP, and check out this line:
7 IP, 3 H, 16 K, 2.57 ERA, 0.57 WHIP. WOW!!!
Mark Prior is making his 2nd rehab start in the next couple days.
Rich Harden threw off the mound and is 2 weeks away.
Felix Hernandez finally rubbed through the myelin sheath on my last nerve. ERA near 6 and WHIP of 1.66. His team gives no run support. Huge sophomore disappointment. I finally kicked him to the curb, and though 1 of the 2 studs I had my eye on (Kazmir) is gone, I picked up Justin Verlander who threw a 5 hit shutout tonight with 7 K's and has a 2.70 ERA and 1.10 WHIP on the year. He has a 100 MPH fastball with movement. I was not going to let stud #2 slip away.
Ben Sheets had an MRI and his shoulder is A - OK. No timetable yet for his return.
Things are about to turn around in Dressel Land...
:D
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I was looking at Verlander tonight too, contemplating dropping the aforementioned Pettitte. I couldn't justify throwing in the towel so soon on Pettitte. Lots of K's given up if I did.
As for the innings, yeah, I'm up there, but I'm only 33 or so over the max, so you must be well below. Wood may prove to be a bust for me after making one start and then having to skip his next because his shoulder was sore :'( Liriano should make up for that.
Saves are hurting me bad too, decent enough start, but then Street gets hurt and Wagner sucks huge.
Wouldn't mind seeing if Crisp can actually play this game though, he's been gone a while now.
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I was looking at Verlander tonight too, contemplating dropping the aforementioned Pettitte. I couldn't justify throwing in the towel so soon on Pettitte. Lots of K's given up if I did.
Not that I'm into offering advice to the competition, but Pettitte is a notorious slow starter, and it seems that every year if you just look at his 2nd 1/2 stats, he'd be the NL Cy Young winner. That's not to say it's definitely going to happen again this year, but traditionally, he becomes a hitter's nightmare after the break.
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Thanks. I hadn't looked at his history from the past few years, but it's too early yet to give up on guys that have a proven track record IMO. I've got a few guys that are just interchangeable parts and I'm happy to dump them at a moment's notice, but a lot of guys I drafted I did so for a reason so I'd like to give them some time yet. The thing about Pettitte that made me hold him was his innings:K ratio. It's not overly great, but at the moment it's alright. His ERA and WHIP are still higher than I'd like, but he's not pitching really poorly or anything, just not getting wins.
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I believe I was at 31 Points at one point last week...big props to Joe Nathan who just threw 2 innings and struck out 5 and got the W to push me up to 44.5...13.5 points in a week!!!
(http://www.dps.state.mn.us/ots/resource_catalog/PSAs/Twins/Nathansober.jpg)
Joe Nathan calls Dressel to tell him that injuries suck
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I believe I was at 31 Points at one point last week...big props to Joe Nathan who just threw 2 innings and struck out 5 and got the W to push me up to 44.5...13.5 points in a week!!!
Easy come, easy go :)
Joe Nathan calls Dressel to tell him that injuries suck
I am a victim.
But I also believe I am a sleeping giant right now.
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Well I had an awfully hard time updating my roster from day to day from the other side of the freaking world...
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Welcome back.
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:)
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My first and second round picks, Teixeira and Wright are potentially available if anyone is interested and the price is right. I'd also be willing to part with Rolen in a package deal with either of the other two.
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My first and second round picks, Teixeira and Wright are potentially available if anyone is interested and the price is right. I'd also be willing to part with Rolen in a package deal with either of the other two.
Proposal sent re: Teixeira
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My first and second round picks, Teixeira and Wright are potentially available if anyone is interested and the price is right. I'd also be willing to part with Rolen in a package deal with either of the other two.
What are you in the market for?
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I don't know... I could move Garciaparra to one of those positions and free up my utility spot, so I guess I'd be looking for the best player I can get. I need bats - my pitching is solid (with the exception of strikeouts) but I'm dead last in HR's. If the offers aren't substantial, I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed that Teixeria pulls out of his lackluster start to the season. I'm not pointing out that I'm looking for substantial offers to hype what I'm selling, but because I'm not really confident that it's a good idea to start trading those guys at this point in the game. Andruw Jones had a 20+ game streak with only like one homerun and just when I started to sour on him he went and blew up this week... who knows.
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Brent, that was about what I figured you'd say. As much as I think Teixiera should have better numbers than he does, I'm still looking at him as a top 5 draft pick who should get hot anytime now, and would want someone pretty big for him.
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Brent, that was about what I figured you'd say. As much as I think Teixiera should have better numbers than he does, I'm still looking at him as a top 5 draft pick who should get hot anytime now, and would want someone pretty big for him.
You're only going to find about 3 or 4 better bats in all of baseball than Teixeira. Maybe 5:
Albert Pujols
Alex Rodriguez
Manny Ramirez
David Ortiz
Vladimir Guerrero (marginally, if any)
If you hang in there I doubt he'll end up with less than 35 HR anyhow.
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In other news, the injury front on my team is really bordering on comical:
Jorge Cantu (2B/3B) Rehabbing his broken foot still
Gary Sheffield (OF) Going back to the DL with a new wrist injury
Carlos Beltran (OF) Lost time with a hamstring, possibly about to lose more time with a knee injury
Rich Harden (SP) Rehabbing a strained back
Jake Peavy (SP) Missing his next start with shoulder tendinitis
Mark Prior (SP) Vagina has not fully healed yet
Ben Sheets (SP) Out indefinitely with shoulder tendinitis
I'm not telling you guys this to be narcissistic, but I'd be pretty concerned than none of you have put a 10 point lead on me at this point with the massive injuries I've sustained.
One of you should have run away with this by now.
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One of you should have run away with this by now.
I think with the size of the league (small), it's hard to run away with anything. I'd be doing better, but my pitchers have gone in the ******* of late and I've sustained some injuries there as well. A couple of key guys have been slumping as well, so momentum is hard to gain. All you need is a couple of guys to get hot to make ground. Looking over the stats in general there aren't too many huge gaps, as evidenced by the flipping of the number one spot on a regular basis.
I'd be happy to run away with it, but I can't get all cylinders firing from my players yet.
Brent, that was about what I figured you'd say. As much as I think Teixiera should have better numbers than he does, I'm still looking at him as a top 5 draft pick who should get hot anytime now, and would want someone pretty big for him.
It was a totally fair counter-offer, but I'm just not prepared to make that trade at this point. Arod has been unspectacular yet has some pretty darn nice numbers that I don't want to give up. I'm inclined to agree with Dressel, much as I'd like to have him, I wouldn't give up on him were I you.
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In other news, the injury front on my team is really bordering on comical:
Jorge Cantu (2B/3B) Rehabbing his broken foot still
Gary Sheffield (OF) Going back to the DL with a new wrist injury
Carlos Beltran (OF) Lost time with a hamstring, possibly about to lose more time with a knee injury
Rich Harden (SP) Rehabbing a strained back
Jake Peavy (SP) Missing his next start with shoulder tendinitis
Mark Prior (SP) Vagina has not fully healed yet
Ben Sheets (SP) Out indefinitely with shoulder tendinitis
Oh this is just perfect.
I just sat down to watch the Yankees vs. Tigers with some special interest tonight since Justin Verlander was pitching against a Yankee lineup devoid of Gary Sheffield, Hideki Matsui, and Derek Jeter, when inning by inning I watched a blood stain grow larger and larger on Verlander's right thigh. The cause? A blister on his throwing hand. I might have just witnessed yet another of my fantasy starting pitchers go down to injury, this time Josh Beckett style (blisters on the pitching hand). And he got hammered because of it to boot.
In 16 years of playing fantasy baseball, I have never experienced, on my team or anyone else's, such a massive amount of injury problems.
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Matsui... he was just starting to heat up (which he always seems to do once April is over...) before he blew his wrist into a thousand pieces... Sure it doesn't compare with your pain, and Dye and Rios are valiantly villing the void - but I wish the guy hadn't dove for that fly ball... :'(
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Matsui... he was just starting to heat up (which he always seems to do once April is over...) before he blew his wrist into a thousand pieces... I wish the guy hadn't dove for that fly ball... :'(
You and me both. Pretty big Yankee fan here, and I'd gladly trade him being able to play for the Yanks this year for the contribution to your fantasy squad, in a heartbeat. With Sheff and Godzilla on the shelf, it hasn't been as much fun watching the Yankees.
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LOL, this looks pretty promising for me as well:
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060602/capt.9e034009e6894cce89da8bf8d206d45f.devil_rays_orioles_baseball_bab107.jpg)
"Tampa Bay Devil Rays runner Carl Crawford writhes in pain on the ground after being tagged out at home plate during the fourth inning of a baseball game against the Baltimore Orioles Thursday, June 1, 2006, in Baltimore. Crawford was trying for an inside-the-park home run and was tagged out, after which he jumped up and hit himself in the knee with his helmet. Crawford continued in the game." (He did not continue in the game).
::)
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Is this a ******* joke or what?
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Crawford's play at home and subsequent injury just made #1 on ESPN's not-so-top-ten list for the week.
Impressive.
(I didn't have a great angle on that replay, but he looked safe to me...)
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Crawford's play at home and subsequent injury just made #1 on ESPN's not-so-top-ten list for the week.
Impressive.
(I didn't have a great angle on that replay, but he looked safe to me...)
Yeah, he was safe. But if the jackass wasn't stomping around like an ******* after the play with that funky ass temper of his, he wouldn't be injured right now.
Because of that, I now have 9 All Stars out with injuries.
But the good news is that this injury parade has to stop soon, because I barely have any active players left to suffer new ones ;)
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I wish I could get credit for Arroyo's 4 RBI today... :P
Let's examine our best and worst moves so far.
I think my biggest blunder was choosing Michael Barrett over Ramon Hernandez when deciding to cut one or the other. Barrett's been okay, but not nearly as impressive as he was at the start of the season, and Hernandez, who I had last year has stayed pretty freaking hot in comparisson. I'd love to have that one over.
Making Dontrelle Willis the second pitcher I drafted was dumb too. It completely slipped my mind that the Marlins had decided to dump their entire team a few months earlier. All I was thinking was that he was a hell of a player for me a year ago.
My best move would probably be Papplebon. I just got lucky enough to hear about Foulke being benched fast enough that he was still there. Arroyo and Glavine, and (recently) Garciaparra have all been pretty solid pick-ups I think. Dye is having a pretty solid season so far as well, but I just picked him back up recently, so it's early to know whether or not it will be a very good move or just an okay one. I'm still trying to settle on a permament replacement for Matsui. :-\
How about you guys? Which ones do you want to do-over and what steals do you think you landed?
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Good topic.
Zod, I'd say Alex Rios has been pretty good for you as well.
I'd say I've had 3 super pickups: 2 from the free agency pool and 1 from the waiver wire:
1. Tom Gordon (waivers) - Has posted a 1.50 ERA and 1.00 WHIP, complete with 16 saves, 2 wins, and 31 K's in 24 IP, which translates to 11.25 K's/9. Given that Gagne went down, and Lidge and Turnbow have struggled, Tom Gordon has been my rock in the bullpen along with BJ Ryan.
2. Nick Swisher (free agency) - Currently at .294 with 16 HRs, 42 RBI, and 47 Runs. You can't ask for better than that from an outfielder 1/3rd through the season.
3. Jonny Gomes (free agency) - Hitting .267, 15 HRs and 41 RBIs, and he's actually in a bit of a slump right now. He did show a little speed as well last year with 9 swipes in 1/2 season, but has been caught stealing 5 out of 6 times so far this year. Still and all, not bad production for free.
(http://www.hatsofflynden.com/images/Flags%20Of%20The%20World/Red%20Cross.JPG)
And, as always, time for the Dressel's Rebels injury report. Yesterday I was only able to field 5 batters. Here's the latest:
Jim Thome (1B) - Has missed the last 2 games with a strained groin, and will be out until mid-next week.
Jorge Cantu (2B/3B) - Out since April with a broken foot, projected to return sometime this week.
Gary Sheffield (OF) - Torn wrist ligament, no timetable for return.
Carlos Beltran (OF) - Right knee bone bruise, missed 3 straight games, day to day.
Carl Crawford (OF) - This one really gets all my dogs barking. Basically injured his knee during a temper tantrum. Missed the last 2, day to day.
Mark Prior (SP) - Out all year with a pulled shoulder muscle, looks good in rehab, needs 1-2 more rehab starts. Mid June return likely.
Rich Harden (SP) - Out since April 27th with a pulled back muscle, is slated be activated from the DL and return today!
Ben Sheets (SP) - Right shoulder tendinitis since May 3rd, stint on the DL before that, no timetable for return. Wouldn't be shocked if he didn't.
Justin Verlander (SP) - throwing hand blisters, may miss next start.
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Rios has been quite good, I'm now trying to juggle him and Dye and am not sure who's the right one to go with on any given day...
Any moves you want do-overs on? Or are you just the supreme diety of fantasy baseball who has no regrets?
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Any moves you want do-overs on? Or are you just the supreme diety of fantasy baseball who has no regrets?
Hmphh. I'm not totally sure that was called for, but if you're asking me if the sum of my moves will result in my being in first place on the last day of the season, then the answer is "yes". I'm confident I'm going to win.
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I didn't mean anything by it. I was being friendly. I was just wondering if you'd dropped any players that you wished you hadn't, or drafted any that you wished you hadn't.
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I didn't mean anything by it. I was being friendly.
I know. I'm a W+P survivor ;)
I was just wondering if you'd dropped any players that you wished you hadn't, or drafted any that you wished you hadn't.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything I'd like to have done differently. Other than having 9 players licking wounds. But that will change.
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The day probably won't end like this, but the bi-polars have swung the pendulum back up to first place!
I'm expecting to be in 6th by the end of the week. ::)
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How about you guys? Which ones do you want to do-over and what steals do you think you landed?
I think my biggest wish is that I'd stop overmanaging my guys and just let them play. I'm guessing at who's hot-not and missing badly on occasion. If I left well enough alone for the most part, I'd be doing better.
As for your question though:
Pettitte continues to frustrate, though Dressel was gracious enough to explain a general trend that I hope we see this year as well.
Coco Crisp and Huston Street have been difficult to evaluate. They started well and then both got hurt. They're starting to come around, but it's tough to call on both of them at this point. Varitek was largely a wasted pick, at that point in the draft.
Carlos Lee and Matt Holliday have been very nice additions to the roster, coming in rounds 13/15. Capuano has carried on from last year nicely (I had him then as well) and Contreras prior to being injured was a great pick from round 21.
Pick-up wise I've had a good luck with lots of temporary fill in guys. I just finished riding Prince Fielder for the spring and he was quite helpful. Hanley Ramirez has been a great fill in for Jimmy Rollins during his slump, but they're both playing around the same right now. Still, Rollins' slump was pretty bad and I didn't really skip a beat there.
Pitching I've been all over the place after thinking I had a pretty good lineup to start with. Guess not. SP-wise picking up Liriano (thanks Scott) and Wood have or should be quite helpful. RP-wise I've sort of cycled through some guys as they get hot or not. Wagner was a draft pick and is alright but I've had to snag Jones and Coffey off the wire. Not steals, but helpful. If Street comes around to last year's performance, I'd be happy. I've a big staff :P and what should be a good one as well, they just need to get going.
No major 'steals' for me though, just some solid guys. Now if I can get Carlos Lee hitting again like he did in the first month, that would help.
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Drafting 180 First Basemen. :P
Kevin
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Yeah but looks like you at least drafted good first basemen... who'd have thought Teixieria would be so worthless this far into the season... meanwhile, Giambi and ortiz have been great for you and you have another All Start 1B on the DL.
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Well today was another stellar day. Gary Sheffield out for 3 months, Rich Harden on the DL with no timetable for return.
I've never seen anything like this.
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Pretty amazing to see, that's for sure.
Actually watched a game tonight, Braves-Astros. Bases loaded, no outs and Pettitte got out of it. Yeesh, my heart. :o
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Pretty amazing to see, that's for sure.
You're not kidding. At the 1/3rd point of this season, I've had more players go down with injuries than my previous 5 years of fantasy baseball combined. And every one of them is a key fantasy player/all star.
(And yes, this is the point in the season where Pettitte begins to turn it around ;) )
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Just to elaborate on Pettitte, here's a look at his first half of the season results vs. second half results:
Year Pre-All Star Break Post All-Star Break
2002 4.74 ERA 2.70 ERA
2003 4.63 3.24
2004 4.14 3.45
2005 3.09 1.69
2006 5.85 ?
It doesn't get much clearer than that.
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I see you're done with Randy Johnson? I was one pick ahead of you trying to decide between Halladay and Johnson. When I took Halladay, you took Johnson so fast that I was assuming that you were valuing R.Johnson as the better of the two and were thrilled that I didn't take him. Made me worry that I'd made a mistake for quite awhile.
On paper it was really a good pick - but your luck has been so absurdly bad so far that this probably just falls into that category.
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I see you're done with Randy Johnson? I was one pick ahead of you trying to decide between Halladay and Johnson. When I took Halladay, you took Johnson so fast that I was assuming that you were valuing R.Johnson as the better of the two and were thrilled that I didn't take him. Made me worry that I'd made a mistake for quite awhile.
Yeah dude, I couldn't take him anymore. He is done, washed up, over the hill....whatever phrase you choose. He's one of the worst pitchers in baseball at the moment, and it ain't gonna get any prettier. His 43rd birthday is upon us, he's been in a steady decline since '03, and he's basically been a 90 mph batting practice machine the whole season. His ERA isn't going to drop much under 5.00 and his WHIP under 1.30, and I am not going to win if I keep throwing him.
The situation I was in with the Big Unit was like hunting a wild bear. After shooting it a couple times the wild, powerful animal drops to the ground and is flailing around, could still be dangerous, but easy now to take advantage of. Johnson still has K power at times, but he is so wild, and has lost so much off that once-overpowering fastball due to the 43 years. Up until last year, batters used to swing and miss at 13% off the pitches released from Unit's left arm. This year, 6%.
My ERA and WHIP are spiraling out of control, and it's not going to change over night. I'm also -83 IP from my starters. I need to throw 6, hard-throwing, low ERA, low WHIP K-machines for the next 4 months in order to flip the script in the ERA and WHIP standings. I think I have that in Peavy, Prior, (Josh) Johnson, Justin Verlander, Jered Weaver, and Dan Haren. If one of them falters hopefully Sheets or Harden will come off the DL to step into a slot in the rotation. 1 month from now I will be the leader in both wins and strikeouts, and my ERA and WHIP should start to drop to competitive levels again.
Now, I've been wanting to pick up Chris Young or Josh Johnson, but could not drop anyone. We're in June and Randy Johnson got hammered silly again by the A's who had exactly one offensive player in the lineup - Nick Swisher that day. He got taken deep 3 times, walked 5, couldn't strike out anybody as usual. That was it for me. Then when you picked up Chris Young, I couldn't take a chance at Josh Johnson being scoffed up too, with the Chris Young buffer gone. Josh Johnson's numbers jump off the page among starting pitchers, he's a beast.
On paper it was really a good pick - but your luck has been so absurdly bad so far that this probably just falls into that category.
Yup, 9 serious injuries (disabled list or season ending), a bunch more minor ones (people who missed 5 games or more), and of the remainder among the healthy, a few who totally disappointed.
I think this may help right the ship.
worthless adj : lacking in excellence or value. Example:
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:)
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Re: Chris Young.
I'd have my eye on picking him up for a few weeks now since he started throwing late into games with 0 earned runs.... the 12K performance the other night was enough to make me pull the trigger - since I'm desperate for strikeouts... I certainly don't expect that every night, he seems to have more potential for K's, ERA, and WHIP than the guy I dropped.
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Re: Chris Young.
I'd have my eye on picking him up for a few weeks now since he started throwing late into games with 0 earned runs.... the 12K performance the other night was enough to make me pull the trigger - since I'm desperate for strikeouts... I certainly don't expect that every night, he seems to have more potential for K's, ERA, and WHIP than the guy I dropped.
The best part of Chris Young is that the Texas Rangers gave up on him and got rid of him last year. Once he left the Rangers, you know he had to be good, because the Texas Rangers are not allowed to have any good starting pitchers in their rotation. It's in the MLB rule book.
Young has strikeout stuff, and moving from the American League (with the DH) to the National League (with the pitcher batting) bumped his K's per 9 up 2.0 on the spot.
He's 6-10" and pretty much a monster, I think you can reasonably expect 14 wins (bad SD offense), 195 K's, ERA under 4.00 and a WHIP under 1.20. Good pickup.
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Young has strikeout stuff, and moving from the American League (with the DH) to the National League (with the pitcher batting) bumped his K's per 9 up 2.0 on the spot.
Yeah, he instantly becomes the strike out leader on my fantasy team - which is pathetic. If I'd been going with him all along I'd probably have 40 or so more K's than I do now. Which wouldn't have translated into more points, but at least I'd be within striking distance of some more points in K's, right now I'm about 70 behind the pack.
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Well, he did it to Atlanta again. I might be developing a little bit of a man crush here. Hey Kev, with this stud we may have found Soriano's successor to my heart ;)
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I can't believe Scott raided my metaphorical dumpster and exhumed the body of Randy Johnson. Let the man RIP will you? He had a great career. :D
The funny thing is, if you sent me a trade offer of Brett Myers for Randy Johnson, I'd have needed less than 1 second to hit the "accept" button on that one.
Look at Randy's replacement on my team though. Josh Johnson. For the season he has 5 wins since entering the rotation 4 weeks into the season on the Marlins, who score no runs, has a 2.05 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP, 54 K's/61 IP. Last outing in place of the Small Unit he pitched 6 innings for me for the W, 7 K's. I will take that ****.
Now, Jered Weaver. WHOA! Where the **** did this kid come from? 4 starts ,4 wins. 1.37 ERA, 0.76 WHIP, 22 K's/26 IP. I picked him up after 2 starts because I knew this kid was just electric. If Mike Scioscia sends him back to AAA now that Colon is coming back from the DL, I'm going to scream. I do not need another reason to hate the Angels. The Angels have 7 infielders, and there's a kid by the name of Itzuris who should get sent back down to the farm to keep Jered Weaver in the rotation, and move brother Jared Weaver to the 'pen and take his 6 ERA with him.
I need these 2 stud-lets. Add them to Peavy, Prior, Burnett (5 hitless 7K innings in rehab) and Haren and I should flip the script on this ERA/WHIP problem of mine. And oh yeah, Sheets and Harden should be back at some point. I hope.
God I got slaughtered.
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I'm somewhat pleased with my pitching this week too ;)
Liriano
Carpenter
Contreras
Capuano
Pettitte
I'm actually pleased that Wood is on the DL, right now I don't feel like I need him. ERA and WHIP are higher than I'd like to see, but as a bunch, they're coming around.
My relievers are a little more worrisome, but I'm ok with those guys as SP.
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I'd like to take this opportunity to rant a little about Teixeira again.
I'm really really losing my patience with him.
66 games into the season the guy has 6 HR's and 33 RBI's. Considering I used the #4 pick on him, that's pathetic. Last year he finished up with 43 HR's and 144 RBI. He's on pace for about half that unless he turns it around soon. Here's a list of players on my team who have been more productive
Teixeira: 37 R, 6 HR, 34 RBI, 0 SB, .286
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David Wright - 42 R, 13 HR, 47 RB, 10 SB, .335
Miguel Tejada - 53 R, 16 HR, 51 RBI, 3 SB, .330
Andruw Jones - 39 RBI, 16 HR, 56 RBI, 3 SB, .270
Jermaine Dye - 37 R, 19 HR, 48 RBI, 3 SB, .301
Johnny Damon - 49 R, 9 HR, 31 RBI, 13 SB, .290
Scott Rolen - 42 R, 8 HR, 43 RBI, 4 SB, .351 (In 70 fewer at bats...)
Alex Rios - 45 R, 15 HR, 49 RBI, 8 SB, .341
Nomar Garciaparra - 36 R, 7 HR, 41 RBI, 2 SB, .356
Every one of those guys is better than Teixiera in EVERY category except for Jones in batting average and Damon in RBI. ****, Johnny Damon has 3 HR more than Teixieria... I should have picked Soriano at #4 and looked for a 1B later on... there were plenty out there. Even better, Teixeira isn't even on Yahoo's can't-cut-list anymore. I've been thinking about just putting Garciaparra in at 1B but I know that the minute I bench him is the minute he blows up for 3 HR's in a night...
It's not as depressing as Dressel's injury problems, but it's ******* depressing.
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(http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/Randy%20Johnson%20-%20Darth%20Vader.jpg)
"Not Quite Dead"
I'm more than happy to pick up somone who has 8 wins and still gets a K per IP, the rest of my staff can overcome the ERA and WHIP but if last night was a sign of things to come, let me be the first to thank you, Matt :-*
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I'm more than happy to pick up somone who has 8 wins and still gets a K per IP, the rest of my staff can overcome the ERA and WHIP but if last night was a sign of things to come, let me be the first to thank you, Matt :-*
Scott, if you think 69 K's in 86 IP is "a K per IP", then I think you should be furnishing us with a mock up of your high school diploma, instead of a Randy Vader pic :-*
By the way, did you look at the WHIP and ERA numbers on the Small Unit? Let me help you with that as well, 5.32 ERA and 1.36 WHIP. You're gonna love it. 43 years old and the worst pitcher that I've ever put up with for 12 starts on any fantasy team I've had since 1990, he'll never pitch for me again.
I haven't won 11 fantasy baseball championships in 15 years by giving away valuable players.
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I'm more than happy to pick up somone who has 8 wins and still gets a K per IP, the rest of my staff can overcome the ERA and WHIP but if last night was a sign of things to come, let me be the first to thank you, Matt :-*
Scott, if you think 69 K's in 86 IP is "a K per IP", then I think you should be furnishing with us with a mock up of your high school diploma, instead of a Randy Vader pic :-*
By the way, did you look at the WHIP and ERA numbers on the Small Unit?
I should have said over the last month...on that K per IP, I see them the ERA and WHIP I also see the K's and W's and a turnaround a comin' :-*
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I'm more than happy to pick up somone who has 8 wins and still gets a K per IP, the rest of my staff can overcome the ERA and WHIP but if last night was a sign of things to come, let me be the first to thank you, Matt :-*
Scott, if you think 69 K's in 86 IP is "a K per IP", then I think you should be furnishing with us with a mock up of your high school diploma, instead of a Randy Vader pic :-*
By the way, did you look at the WHIP and ERA numbers on the Small Unit?
I should have said over the last month...on that K per IP, I see them the ERA and WHIP I also see the K's and W's and a turnaround a comin' :-*
"Turnaround comin'?" Not at 43 dude. His turnaround around came, the 3rd week of this past April. And that turn was downward. His ERA and WHIP rose in that month time span. Try again.
:-X
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Anyone know if suspended players can be put on the DL or if there's any kind of N/A listing?
My catcher's about to start serving 10 games, and I'm not about to drop any of my bench guys for a temporary catcher - but I hate to lose ten games at the position...
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Anyone know if suspended players can be put on the DL or if there's any kind of N/A listing?
My catcher's about to start serving 10 games, and I'm not about to drop any of my bench guys for a temporary catcher - but I hate to lose ten games at the position...
They can't be placed on the DL.
Barrett likely will have an "NA" in red after his name, but can only be placed on your bench. Unless you drop a bench player and pick up a catcher, you'll just lose the 10 games.
:'(
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Don't cry for me Argentina.
Maybe a miracle will happen and his suspension will be overturned. :-X
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Don't cry for me Argentina.
Maybe a miracle will happen and his suspension will be overturned. :-X
I'm still kinda shocked that Pierzynski was still standing after that shot. I would have landed somewhere in the 3rd row.
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Yeah - given my luck they'll tack 5 games on because Barrett had the audacity to appeal.
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"Damon said his hamstring problem was connected to his lower back problem. It has nothing to do with his aching left shoulder, his painful right elbow or the cracked bone in his right foot."
Looks like my team is as banged up as Dressel, the difference being that I've got one guy who's injured 5 times instead of 5 guys who are injured once.
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"Damon said his hamstring problem was connected to his lower back problem. It has nothing to do with his aching left shoulder, his painful right elbow or the cracked bone in his right foot."
Looks like my team is as banged up as Dressel, the difference being that I've got one guy who's injured 5 times instead of 5 guys who are injured once.
Man, I don't know. You're getting to be even with me maybe, but perhaps just because my team is healing. Take a look at players I've had/have and their injuries:
C Josh Willingham - strained hand, DL'd and dropped
1B Jim Thome - strained groin, missed games, missing interleague games
2B Jorge Cantu - Lost 1 1/2 months with broken foot
3B Eric Chavez - lost time with infection, pulled ass and hamstring
SS Felipe Lopez - :D HEALTH :D
OF Gary Sheffield - Torn up wrist, out for the year, dropped
OF Carlos Beltran - Missed 3 weeks with hammy, knee
OF Carl Crawford - Missed time with shoulder, knee
OF Jonny Gomes - sitting with shoulder ailment, BA plummeted 60 points
OF Nick Swisher - :D HEALTH :D
SP Rich Harden - Missed a month with pulled back, now 2 more months with elbow
SP Ben Sheets - Brewers just need to admit they murdered him and buried his body
SP Jake Peavy - shoulder tendinitis
SP Mark Prior - yet to pitch this season
RP Eric Gagne - elbow ****** up, DL'd and dropped
The one element of my team that has remained healthy, as it will reflect in my league leading saves, is my closer corp. Um, except Gagne.
Let's see your's Zod
:)
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Yesterday on my way to work I was thinking about the way I was playing fantasy baseball in the 90's, with a group of guys in school. We did the stats manually, every Sunday with the USA Today Baseball section. By Sunday night we had to call in our lineups for the week, so it was beneficial to call in your starting pitchers who had 2 starts in the week (i.e. Mike Scott pitches Monday, then Saturday).
I can remember maybe 1 or 2 times tops that I ever had to call the commish and bench someone for an injury. And this is over years and years of fantasy baseball. It just seemed like nobody ever got injured like this back then.
I really think the parade of chemicals like steroids these guys are on is weakening their ability to battle injury, and recover from them.
Back in the early 90's, a Superstar player was one who hit .300 with 30 HR 100 RBI, or someone who would hit *GASP* .330 at the plate. Tony Gwynn and Wade Boggs used to go in the first couple rounds because they would hit .330 and hit 15 HRs to boot!! Bobby Bonilla was a stud. Joe Carter and Andre Dawson were our A-Rods and Pujols.
All these drugs are inflating the hell out of the numbers, but I think it's also increasing the need to add on new wings to the infirmary.
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I wish I could complain about injuries. My guys seem like they think June is a holiday month :-\ Brutal output, save my starting pitchers last week.
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I wish I could complain about injuries. My guys seem like they think June is a holiday month :-\ Brutal output, save my starting pitchers last week.
I was thinking about your offense when I was observing A-Rod's offensive struggles during the Yankee games. I pull away from you in HRs a little when he suffers a power outage. When he is hitting HRs, you're right on my ass in that department.
Your pitching has been much better, I've watched your ERA and WHIP drop over the past couple weeks.
Obviously as you can see from the above list, I have 4 aces who are big time W, K, ERA, WHIP guys who really got whacked with injuries. At the end of April I thought I would be dominating all 5 pitching categories by now. Clearly, that hasn't happened.
However, with the acquisition of AJ Burnett, Mark Prior coming back this Sunday (both fanned 10 batters at AAA rehab starts this week, Burnett no hit the bastards), Rich Harden declaring he'll be ready right after the All-Star game, I still think that my pitching rotation could be the juggernaut in this league and be dominant through September.
But then again, I thought that in April ::)
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My injury situation is at least ten times worse than Dressel's
Matsui - who blew his wrist into a million pieces.
Brian Roberts missed a few weeks with a groin pull - he's back but isn't performing at the level that he was before.
Damon, despite 5 separate nagging injuries, hasn't missed many games - hopefully he won't start to.
Halladay missed a few starts early in the year.
I mean, I could barely count all that on one hand.
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I've heard enough out of you >:(
One rare ray of sunshine did poke through the clouds today though:
Jun 16 Harden (elbow) could resume throwing late next week after team doctors determined the ligament sprain wasn't as severe as initially thought, the Contra Costa Times reports.
Thank goodness I didn't drop him last week in favor of the Big Disappointment (see Scott's pitching rotation now).
Why is Harden significant?
Last year: 2.53 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, 121 K's/128 IP, 10-5 (injury shortened year)
Now, hows abouts them 3 other starters who are supposed to be producing those numbers...
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Now, hows abouts them 3 other starters who are supposed to be producing those numbers...
See: Mark Teixeria
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Now, hows abouts them 3 other starters who are supposed to be producing those numbers...
See: Mark Teixeria
Well, Peavy, Sheets, and Prior are just injured.
Teixeira is healthy. He is going to go on a rampage at some point this year and finish with nice numbers.
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Maybe that explosion is about to happen...
Teixeira working on glitch in swing
(http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/061406dnsporangbriefs.17760c27.html)
ARLINGTON – With an assist from hitting instructor Rudy Jaramillo, Rangers first baseman Mark Teixeira said he's identified the mechanical issue in his swing that has caused a significant drop in run production.
Now comes the tough part: fixing it.
Teixeira and Jaramillo spent a lot of time together on the just-completed road trip trying to create a little more lift when Teixeira hits the ball. Teixeira said his swing is flattening out as he approaches balls, and the head-on impact leads to line drives, but not fly balls that can carry.
Looks like he just earned himself another few weeks of fantasy playing time...
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Bah.... >:(
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I appreciate the offer Brent, but the only person I'd consider trading him for on your roster is Rodriguez - despite my incessant bitching about his lack of production so far.
And a trade for A-Rod is problematic for me (even if you were willing to give him up) because I've got two solid 3B already in Wright and Rolen.
Let me know if you want to trade Hernandez... I still can't freaking believe I cut him over Barrett - probably because I had him on my team last year and he got injured and never really did much for me.
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On May 7th Ben Sheets had an MRI that concluded his shoulder was structurally sound. Fast forward 5 weeks. Where the **** is he? Still no timetable for his return.
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Well my Randy Johnson for Brett Myers trade with Scott is complete, and tomorrow, they pitch head to head! Should be a fun watch on ESPN, 7 PM, Phils vs. Yankees.
I have to say Scott, your move really boggles my mind. Granted, Brett Myers had 2 rough outings in the past 1 1/2 weeks. But prior to that, he had a 2.90 ERA on the year and a 1.27 WHIP. 60 K's in just under 80 IP, not bad. Last year Myers was one of 8 major leaguers to strike out 200 batters as well.
Look at Randy Johnson. His ERA was double that. He's 43. He is not Roger Clemens. Randy Johnson is a straight up has been. Oh he's awful.
With the Myers move, suddenly my rotation is gearing up for lights out domination:
Jake Peavy
Rich Harden (All Star break return)
AJ Burnett
Mark Prior
Ben Sheets (All Star break return)
Brett Myers
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Josh Johnson (if necessary)
Dan Haren ( if necessary)
Soon we will be seeing what we should have been seeing before all the injuries hit in April.
Be ready for a dramatic change in the standings in the 2nd half.
(http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/images/silvergorilla.jpg)
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I'm shocked that you started Prior today... after that long a layoff, there was bound to be major rust. I don't remember specifically, but I think he did the same exact thing to me last year after coming back form injury - having one or two horrible outings before he got it going.
I'm sure he's going to get better (unless he gets hurt again...) but 6 runs in the first... ouch.
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I'm shocked that you started Prior today... after that long a layoff, there was bound to be major rust. I don't remember specifically, but I think he did the same exact thing to me last year after coming back form injury - having one or two horrible outings before he got it going.
I'm sure he's going to get better (unless he gets hurt again...) but 6 runs in the first... ouch.
Yeah dude, that Prior episode today really hurt. But my policy is that if I carry a pitcher on my roster, he's gonna start. Prior K'd fools like mad in his last 2 AAA rehab starts.
You never really know how someone is going to pitch on any given day, that's why I start every pitcher, every time.
Look at Josh Johnson today, clearly Halladay was the favorite, but Josh Johnson, with Marlin run support, beat him. That would have cost me a W, 5 K's, and a nice ERA if he were benched. The WHIP was bad, but oh well.
I'll be throwing Prior again for his regularly scheduled start.
It's funny you posted that though, because I, too, was screaming at ESPN "Get the hook!!! Get the ******* HOOK!!" when I saw the box score. My parents and the company we have over right now were a little concerned.
AJ Burnett I believe has K'd 10 and allowed like 3 total hits over his last 2 AAA rehab starts. He too will be getting the start this Thursday.
:)
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He's won what, 3 games this year? Johnson has him on W's and K's and is tied in WHIP and I have enough help at ERA and WHIP that even if Randy continues to suck,he'll still help at K's and W's more than Myers was, good luck
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He's won what, 3 games this year? Johnson has him on W's and K's and is tied in WHIP and I have enough help at ERA and WHIP that even if Randy continues to suck,he'll still help at K's and W's more than Myers was, good luck
There is a big difference Scott:
1. Brett Myers is in his late 20's and on his way up. He is getting better. Randy Johnson is 43 and decaying. He is not going to improve.
2. Brett Myers, prior to 2 starts ago, had a 2.90 ERA and 1.27 WHIP. Randy Johnson, however, has been over 5.00 since the end of April.
You can forget about W-L, that stuff just happens despite WHIP, ERA, and K numbers and is based entirely off of your run support that day. Look at Pedro Martinez this year with like 100 K's, a 2.00 ERA and a .90 WHIP who has about 5 wins. I'm not sure if you heard, but the Yankees lost 2 of their 30 HR 100 RBI outfielders for the year.
I would have taken way less than Brett Myers in exchange for Randy Johnson.
So thank you.
:)
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Stop the presses, ring the bells. Holy swacka-doodle I got a save today. And jeepers-creepers, some of my guys even swung their bats and made contact. It's a banner day for the month of June!
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Well my Randy Johnson for Brett Myers trade with Scott is complete, and tomorrow, they pitch head to head! Should be a fun watch on ESPN, 7 PM, Phils vs. Yankees.
Gotcha punk.
He's won what, 3 games this year? Johnson has him on W's and K's and is tied in WHIP and I have enough help at ERA and WHIP that even if Randy continues to suck,he'll still help at K's and W's more than Myers was, good luck
Right-O.
:)
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(http://www.philliesfanpage.com/archives/pictures/4162.jpg)
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Well my Randy Johnson for Brett Myers trade with Scott is complete, and tomorrow, they pitch head to head! Should be a fun watch on ESPN, 7 PM, Phils vs. Yankees.
Gotcha punk.
He's won what, 3 games this year? Johnson has him on W's and K's and is tied in WHIP and I have enough help at ERA and WHIP that even if Randy continues to suck,he'll still help at K's and W's more than Myers was, good luck
Right-O.
:)
Yeah, let's base the whole thing on one game...(http://www.doesthecirclehold.com/wp-content/guinnessB11.jpg)
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I'm not that retarded Scott ;)
But I'm sure as **** that if The Big Unit K'd 14 and shutout the Phils, and Myers went 1 1/3rd giving up 8 ER and 4 HR's, you'd have been in here in a heartbeat.
But for the record, I'm sure Brett Myers is the better pitcher today. Not better than Randy Johnson in his prime, but better than Randy Johnson at 43 years.
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Anyone else having trouble signing into Yahoo Fantasy Baseball this morning. I can't get into that page to set my lineups.
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I had trouble last night and haven't been in since. Took about twenty minutes to get a switch made. It did go though.
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I can still get in.
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It looks to be okay now. It was down much of last night and this morning at both home and the office, so I know it wasn't the computers.
Looks fine now.
:D
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David Wright's my hero. He's been on an absolute tear lately.
All by himself, he put up more HR's and RBI and only one fewer run scored than my entire team did yesterday.
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My current hero
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/2005/0421/photo/g_kazmir_et.jpg)
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And to think I cut him over two guys who I've cut since...
I'm kicking myself...
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My current hero
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/2005/0421/photo/g_kazmir_et.jpg)
He hasn't been your current hero for his last 3 starts, this much we know. In fact, this has been his first good start since May 21st.
Don't kick yourself Rob, I drafted Kazmir and cut him, that's all you need to know.
If you want a hero, try looking at this guy. Gotten for free as well, he's going to K just as many with the same ERA, but have much better W's and WHIP:
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060623/capt.5c11b6d3195c40f58b5cbd9fb114b4f5.blue_jays_braves_baseball_gajb103.jpg)
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What was wrong with 9K's and W last time out and 5 K's and no ER's the time before that?
He's been by far my best pickup, Makes up for the bonehead move of dumping Santana Jr.
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What was wrong with 9K's and W last time out and 5 K's and no ER's the time before that?
He's been by far my best pickup, Makes up for the bonehead move of dumping Santana Jr.
Sorry June 17th was good too, I mistook that line for today's.
Still though, May 21st was dominant, then:
May 26th - Loss, 5.1 IP, 5 ER, 8 H, 2 BB, 6 K
June 1st - ND, 2 IP, 3 ER, 2 H, 3 BB, 2 K
June 6th - Loss, 6.1 IP, 6 ER, 9 H, 2 BB, 5 K
June 12th - ND, 5 IP, 0 ER, 4 H, 2 BB, 3 K
I'm not really impressed because his WHIP is 1.40 and BAA is .263
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/fantasy/06/22/fantasy.mailbag/
Everyone keeps telling me the same thing...
Any day now...
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/fantasy/06/22/fantasy.mailbag/
Everyone keeps telling me the same thing...
Any day now...
And yet you keep rejecting me :P
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Jun 23 ESPN.com reports Philadelphia Phillies SP Brett Myers was arrested Friday, June 23, for allegedly assaulting his wife. The right-hander was arrested by Boston authorities as the team is currently in Boston to play the Red Sox. He was arraigned in Boston Muncipal Court on a domestic assault and battery charge. His bail was set at $200 and he is currently free after it was posted by his wife.
And wait till you see how he handles Manny and Ortiz during his next start ;)
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As part of his bail conditions, Myers must not initiate contact with his wife and can see her only if she wants to see him. The judge also ruled that if Myers is arrested again while out on bail he can be jailed for up to two months.
I sure hope he gets in trouble tonight!
Randy wouldn't hit his wife
(http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2005/10/01/1128202500_0942.jpg)
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My new current hero
(http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/slideshow/cards2005.nsf/show/5157254EF592D4E986256FE2002012C3/$FILE/photo6.jpg)
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Oh for ****'s sake would San Diego find a way to score a run? Every pitcher that faces off against the Padres looks like ******* Cy Young! They gotta hook my man up with a little run support here, and he don't need much.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060624/capt.fab7b44dbc594938ae3c51b5ea3ed0d0.mariners_padres_baseball_cali102.jpg)
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Randy wouldn't hit his wife
Maybe not, but he does not pay child support or talk to his children either.
:)
EDIT: Or throw strikes, for that matter.
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Yay!
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/PHO/862119.jpg)
Do it again!
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Only have to wait another 23 days or so before it happens again. :-*
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Hahahaha, try 23 HOURS.
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/PHO/862119.jpg)
On a 4 for 5 night with 2 Runs and 3 RBI.
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Minor glitch. :P
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Speaking of Teixeira....
So it's top of the ninth, down by two, bases loaded... he hits a shot down the right field line that clearly lands on the foul line (a fair ball) only to have the ball called a foul. He then goes ballistic - gets ejected, and the Rangers lose.
That hit had 3 RBI double written all over it.
But Laird ends up having to pinch hit for him...
******' umps... >:(
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This man, Christopher Harris, is a new "expert" face over at Yahoo Fantasy Baseball:
(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/cn/headshots/christopher_smiling3.jpg)
He is Satan.
This is the man responsible for injuring 15 of my players.
He also caused Mark Teixeira's slump.
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Dressel, could you clarify the requirements for a win for pitching? I thought I knew all the basics but Kenny Rogers went out of the game after 4 and a third, leading 7-5, his team won 7-6, but he didn't get the W - Román Colón did.
Do you have to get through a certain number of innings to earn a W even if you leave with a lead that holds up?
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Dressel, could you clarify the requirements for a win for pitching? I thought I knew all the basics but Kenny Rogers went out of the game after 4 and a third, leading 7-5, his team won 7-6, but he didn't get the W - Román Colón did.
Do you have to get through a certain number of innings to earn a W even if you leave with a lead that holds up?
A starting pitcher must pitch a minimum of 5 complete innings to be eligible for the win.
Kenny Rogers knew when to hold 'em, knew when to fold 'em, knew when to walk away, and knew when to run.
:)
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It's been said in baseball folk lore that all hot streaks begin with a broken bat:
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060701/capt.854f665554094cb1aad48a1bfa626b35.astros_rangers_baseball_arl108.jpg)
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Anything fly out of the middle of that bat? ;)
I was more than a bit surprised to see Teixeira on the bubble over at Yahoo tonight. Uh, reputation count for much? He's coming on and that's great news for Rob, but I don't think I'd be saying he's totally turned around. Maybe in a couple of weeks.
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I wouldn't say he's turned it around either. He's doing a little better over the last week or two - but he's still got a ways to go before he's the player I was expecting when I drafted him... he may be too far behind to reach those types of numbers at this point anyway. I'll be happy so long as he's better in the second half of the season.
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Kenny Rogers knew when to hold 'em, knew when to fold 'em, knew when to walk away, and knew when to run.
Of course the problem here was that he had no idea when to run or hold em'.
He needed to hold em for another 2 outs so I could have had a chance at the fantasy W.
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I guess our trade is done ???
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Are you talking to me or someone above?
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I guess our trade is done ???
Well, Myers is inactive and he's got a court appearance August 4th. All witnesses say he punched his wife in the face twice while dragging her through the streets of Boston by her hair. The police found her bruised, bloody, and swollen on a curb. It's not looking good for Myers.
Jered Weaver, however, in his 4 starts has a 1.70 ERA and .76 WHIP. Just under a K/inning. He's likely going to have freshman success like King Felix last year since nobody has seen him yet.
I'll go with Weaver.
This Myers thing is just another in the long, long, long list of injuries, accidents, and incidents that has befallen every one of my players who is not a closer, Felipe Lopez, or Nick Swisher. I got leveled.
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Alright - how many allstars are on your team?
I count 11 on mine, plus two guys who are finalists for the last-man whatchamacallit.
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Alright - how many allstars are on your team?
I count 11 on mine, plus two guys who are finalists for the last-man whatchamacallit.
I don't know much about how many all stars are on my squad, but I do know that apparently hell froze over while I took a nap, because one of my starters is actually about to earn a W.
(http://www.churchsermon.org/multimedia/Hell%20froze%20over.jpg)
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There's a major glitch in the stat-collecting software on our roster pages. Yahoo is reporting that Josh Johnson recorded a win, and that doesn't happen on my team.
Don't worry, I've reported this problem to Yahoo and they're on it.
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I've been sayin' it all along Rob, he's gonna go ape**** at some point. His season numbers will be good on September 1st.
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That's why I kept him... Because you know your **** and I had an inclination to agree with you on that one.
That's 4 homers in his last two games... hopefully he can keep it up.
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Oh for ****'s sake. If at least 2 of the 3 of Ben Sheets, Rich Harden and Mark Prior don't get back in the next 2 weeks, and start pitching like the 3.00 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, K per 9 studs they are, the injury bug will have finally buried me. In the meantime i've let Kazmir, Bonderman, and Liriano be picked up by the rest of you, while I'm waiting for my 3 aces to swab their ***** out, get that fresh feeling back, and get back on the mound.
I doubt I'll have that many total injuries over the next 5 seasons combined.
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Well my pitchers are healthy, and lately seem to be throwing with an era around 15.00
Except Halliday. Arroyo, Young, Glavine, and Rogers are all getting slammed lately.
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Well my pitchers are healthy, and lately seem to be throwing with an era around 15.00
Except Halliday. Arroyo, Young, Glavine, and Rogers are all getting slammed lately.
I would expect Glavine and Rogers in particular to take a bit of a beating. Hell, you've already given up on Glavine once. If the law of averages works out over a 6 month season, I'd say you have 3 studs there, and Rogers and Glavine are really due to take a bit of a whooping.
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Yeah, I've started to think that myself. My confidence in this group is waning fast. I wanted to add Morris to my team and was looking for a way to do that but was struggling over who to cut. I immediately felt like cutting Glavine had been a mistake - and was thrilled to have him back. The fact that none of you bothered putting a waiver claim on him should have let me know that I'd probably made the right move.
The worst part is, in the morning I checked the Yahoo! game preview page yesterday to see who on my team was starting and all, and Rogers wasn't listed as the Detroit starter... so I didn't do anything with him. Needless to say, I'd intended on not satrting him this week - and I get saddled with a 12.00 +era and 2.00+ whip for him.
Chris Young was a beating I was going to take either way, I'd intended to start him.
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Yeah, I've started to think that myself. My confidence in this group is waning fast. I wanted to add Morris to my team and was looking for a way to do that but was struggling over who to cut. I immediately felt like cutting Glavine had been a mistake - and was thrilled to have him back. The fact that none of you bothered putting a waiver claim on him should have let me know that I'd probably made the right move.
I just felt like with the 11 W's he got really lucky with the run support. The K pace was not going to continue. Overall he's a quality starter for a 12 team league, but I very well couldn't drop any of my ace studs like Harden DL, Sheets DL, Prior DL, Burnett, Peavy for him, and I had to keep Jered Weaver who has won all 6 starts and who is basically absolutely untouchable to hitters, until next year when they have the book on him. (See HERNANDEZ, Felix and DUKE, Zach in '05). The younger Weaver is 6 W in 6 starts with a 1.12 ERA and a 0.76 WHIP with just under a K per 9, since his call up :o
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Wisely I waited on bragging about my pitching staff :o Couple of guys got beat up this weekend, though it looks like the post all-star campaign Pettitte is here now ;D
Still, I won't complain about this lineup at the moment:
Carpenter
Pettitte
Capuano
Liriano
Contreras
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That is a superb staff at the moment.
I still can't believe how horrendously my paper projections have deviated from my results thus far, because of tragedy striking every far reaching corner of my team.
I'm just about buried and I won't be making many further moves, just because I still believe that my team should be producing first place results.
I gotta just ride this out and take the results, whatever they may be. Sometimes these things are out of your control I guess. It's just that tragedy has never struck one of my teams like this before, but I'm not waving the white flag just yet.
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It pains me to have to continuously shed my injured superstars as the sand in the hourglass of this season runs out.
:'(
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Well after a month or so in 1st and at one point holding a 6 point lead, I thought my team had shaken the bi-polar thing and would be rather consistent, but since the all-star break they've been HORRIBLE (except Andru Jones...).
My pitchers keep getting blown up for 5 and 6 runs... my WHIP has been around 2.00.. my team BA is .12 lower than it was a few weeks ago (losing Alex Rios and Michael Barrett didn't help in that regard).
Just when I started getting hopes of maybe riding this thing out...
Oh, and since that 3 HR game, Teixeria is 2 for 20 with 1 run and 2 RBI... ::)
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Since I picked him up
(http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/Randy%20Johnson%20-%20Darth%20Vader.jpg)
Ra. Johnson
(NYY - SP)
2 Wins
47 K in 41 IP
3.95 ERA
1.05 WHIP
Yuck
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Brett Myers, despite the LOA, put up similar numbers.
Who cares.
EDIT: Not that it ******* matters since I have 4 players on my entire team who weren't mutilated or incapacitated this season.
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Since I picked him up
Ra. Johnson
(NYY - SP)
2 Wins
47 K in 41 IP
3.95 ERA
1.05 WHIP
Yuck
Well those 9 runs and 2.70 WHIP in 3 IP today ought to simmer you down a bit.
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Ouch.
On a personal note... I'm getting to the point where I'm going to bench all my SP's not named Halladay or Verlander...
I had the best WHIP and ERA in our league up until a few weeks ago when everyone and anyone on my team has been giving up 6+ runs in just about all their starts... I've tried picking up pitchers who are on hot streaks and it absolutely HASN'T worked... Matt Morris was hot but got jacked up in his first start for me... same with Padilla, and today Garland... Meanwhile Glavine sucks, Kenny Rogers was getting killed, Chris Young's been okay but not spectacular and and even Arroyo has cooled down.
****.
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2 quick points:
1. Teixeira is smoking hot, hitting just under .500 last week
2. And, oh yeah, my current best hitter is injured for a change.
Never seen anything like this in all my fantasy years.
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Teixeira sluggled two more homers today bringing him to .283 17 HR and 66 RBI 63 Runs.
Not phenomenal yet, but he is recovering. And the last 10 games he's looked like Ted Williams.
;)
(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/PHO/862119.jpg)(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/PHO/862119.jpg)
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Now if we could just see Arod pick it up to the same extent...
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Teixeira's current season projections then are .283 25 HR 100 RBI 100 Runs.
Not first round numbers, but definitely a good solid player. Next year he'll go in late round deuce.
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Yeah, he's turned it aroudn for now. Thank God too - my team is batting something like 3 for 23 today, with the only two runs, HR's, and RBI coming from Tex's two solo homers. My team has pretty much sucked (pitching especially) since the all star break.
Oh well.
EDIT: Special thanks to Jermaine Dye for being the first guy on my team (a free agent pick up no less...) to 30 HR's.
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I'd just like to point out the Twins are throwing it all away right now. I jumped on the bandwagon and really haven't been disappointed until the last two series against the Tigers and the Rangers :o
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I'd just like to point out the Twins are throwing it all away right now. I jumped on the bandwagon and really haven't been disappointed until the last two series against the Tigers and the Rangers :o
If Liriano misses any time with this, it's the end of their pennant run. Of all the players to get hurt, there are 2 that they absolutely cannot weather...Liriano and Santana.
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I'd just like to point out the Twins are throwing it all away right now. I jumped on the bandwagon and really haven't been disappointed until the last two series against the Tigers and the Rangers :o
If Liriano misses any time with this, it's the end of their pennant run. Of all the players to get hurt, there are 2 that they absolutely cannot weather...Liriano and Santana.
He's only going to miss one start, they said he could have went but they were being precautious
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Yeah, he's slated to go Monday against the Tigers. And I desperately need him these days, pitching has been a bit down lately.
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Well Ben Sheets fractured his vagina again tonight. Never in my ******* life...
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At this point I'd almost rather my pitchers all be hurt - that way they can't get into the line-up and **** up my ERA any more than they have lately.
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Sorry Brent.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2543069
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:'(
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My stud rookie pictcher missed his last start too - and like Liriano they say it will only be one missed start.
Hopefully he's okay... :-\
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My team-wide drop into mediocrity continues today... I've lost about 6.5 points on the pitching side alone since my team's peak.
:'(
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Whoo hoo - 6 HR's today (most by my team in any given day) led by 2 from damon with 4 runs scored and 7 RBI (double header)...
And I've got a few pitchers who are doing good things finally... namely Haren and Hamels...
Maybe all hope isn't lost just yet.
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Alright Brent and Dressel, explain to us how the trade you guys have pending is a fair one.
I know the rankings aren't always the most accurate things out there, but I see Brent giving up numbers 89, 144, 60, and 181 in exchange for numbers 24, 26, and 34.
Thome and Crawford are bonafide fantasy studs, Carlos Guillén and Gary Matthews Jr. are guys Brent picked up off the waiver wire recently. Putz for Capuano looks like a fair deal, but the rest of it stinks.
I'm not pointing fingers, but I don't like the way this deal looks one bit.
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Yeah, I figured you'd say that:
Outfield:
G. Matthews Jr. 72 runs; 14 HR; 65 RBI; 07 SB; .310 season avg.
C. Crawford 70 runs; 15 HR; 64 RBI; 43 SB; .313 season avg.
Infield (or utility where I played Guillen and will play Thome)
C. Guillen 74 runs; 14 HR; 70 RBI; 17 SB; .309 season avg.
J. Thome 93 runs; 36 HR; 90 RBI; 00 SB; .294 season avg.
Stud vs. waiver wire with Crawford versus Matthews? Yeah, I know where I got him but look at those numbers right there. And while I'd agree that Matthews is down for the week, that's because they're away from Texas, where he hits a lot better (as do the rest of them). I consider it a fair trade and I needed to unload one of the three Texas outfielders I'm sitting on. I picked up SB in the deal, but gave back some (not all, obviously) by giving up Guillen, who was slotted in my utility spot specifically for average (which I gave up to get Thome) and stolen bases.
I'll agree with your comment more in the Thome vs. Guillen aspect. I'm gaining runs, HR and RBI potential but giving up average and stolen bases. I won't argue with him being a waiver wire pickup versus a great early pick, but that's part of why I gave up Capuano....
You see Capuano for Putz but make no mention of Julio being in there as well. I had to give up an extra guy to make the deal work for me, or drop a guy. Julio had a crappy outing last week and the reports are that he may not hold his closer job. Yeah, here are the names of the guys I've dropped that have had that said about them earlier in the season:
JJ Putz
T. Jones
Now go look at their stats and see what an idiot I was to drop both of them based on Yahoo reports they might be losing their jobs. I picked up Zumaya at one point based on four consecutive bad games by Jones. Not really a reliable source of information.
What that means is I gave up one of my closers AND a pretty darn good pitcher, not just Capuano for Putz. And I just lost Street to the DL as well, so I'm pretty desperate in sitting in first with one closer threatened with demotion and another on the DL.
I offered Scott up Liriano, who is on the DL and may not pitch again this year for Hoffman earlier this week. Part of that is humor from a deal we'd sort of worked out when I was down in MN but I renegged on because I decided I didn't have that great of pitching after all (look at Contreras, Pettitte and Capuano's winning of late to see I was right). But it's a gamble trade if Liriano does or doesn't come back.
No way are you or Scott going to trade with me. I don't like Famine's relievers that much and didn't see as much upside with the other guys he has in certain respects (e.g. SB). I didn't think the Cuspids or Diablos were far enough out to go for a trade like that.
I needed a reliever and got one, giving up a guy that has been a good reliever for me and also a good pitcher. Capuano's ERA and WHIP are both below my season averages meaning he's been helping keep them down. Julio has one win and 16 saves. For BOTH of those guys I'm getting Putz, a guy I used to have and who can help my ERA and WHIP. On top of that I need to take a pitcher out of rotation because my innings are high.
Matthews for Crawford is fair alone. All I gain is SB which I'm sitting at the top of anyway.
Thome for Guillen is less fair, but that's where the pitching duo comes into play as well. But I give up some SB by offloading Guillen (compensated for by Crawford), some average (which could gain you a point) but I gain some HR potential, which might get me a point. Thome was drafted in round 14. That was after I had drafted Coco Crisp, Jason Varitek, Cliff Lee and the same round as Doug Davis. All of those guys I've dropped. Yes, his numbers are really nice now, but he's a bit of a surprise too.
Read that and tell me what you think. I totally expected you and Scott to be displeased and specifically tried to make the trade as fair as possible. Do you think I did a bad job of that?
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I don't think its totally fair at first glance...but I didn't totally study it either
Why anyone would trade anything to the guy in first place is the bigger head scratcher...
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I don't think it's totally fair, but you make some decent points ala Crawford ofr Matthews Jr...
I still don't like it though, and I'm with Scott - I can't figure out why anyone would give a slanted trade, even if it's not as slanted as I first thought, to the guy in first place. Dressel seems to have all but thrown in the towel and unloading his second round pick and Thome (who was only picked that low because of his hideous injury-plagued year last year (a year I drafted him in the third or fourth and suffered through)) who certainly isn't a 14th round caliber player in exchange for some solid but unspectacular players.
In the past whenever I've tried to trade with Dressel, or when he's stepped in and given Kevin advice on trading with me, he's never accepted anything less than a deal that was skewed in his favor - and this one simply isn't.
Maybe it's just me sitting in second place and not wanting you to distance yourself, maybe it's because I don't think the Thome part is fair, but I have to vote against this one.
Nothing personal though - even if Scott and I vote against it, someone else would have to as well and I doubt there is a third vote anywhere, so it will probably go through..
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On another note, where did Kevin go?
Are you even playing Kevin?
You've got SIX guys on your team with more HR's than ANYONE on my team, and you're on pace for -280 innings-pitched.
With more pitching you could have done a lot in this league... but it looks like you've barely managed your team all season.
What's the deal?
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Maybe it's just me sitting in second place and not wanting you to distance yourself, maybe it's because I don't think the Thome part is fair, but I have to vote against this one.
Whew. Thanks for protecting me against Brent, he told me he was going to take advantage of me, and threatened me, so I had to accept his proposal. We need more fantasy owners like you Rob, to stand up against bullies like Brent.
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What, it was okay when you becamse the broker between me and Kevin?
Besides, I wasn't insinuating that Brent was taking advantage of you, I was insinuating that maybe you just don't care about your team so much anymore and don't have any qualms about making the first place team even stronger..
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What, it was okay when you becamse the broker between me and Kevin?
Besides, I wasn't insinuating that Brent was taking advantage of you, I was insinuating that maybe you just don't care about your team so much anymore and don't have any qualms about making the first place team even stronger..
Well, that thing betwen you and Kev was not a trade that both parties accepted and up for possible veto by the league. That was just Kev asking me my opinion on what he should get back for Soriano. By the way, I was right about that one. Halladay or bust for Soriano, we thought.
This trade between me and Bug, I have to do it. I am dead last in ERA and WHIP, next to last in Wins. I got Capuano now, and I just gotta hope Peavy, Sheets, Burnett, Myers, Weaver do what they can do. That's the area that needs the most improvement and I addressed it.
Go ahead and cast a vote to veto my trade, but there's nothing wrong with this one. I'm trading off my excesses to get an area I need work on.
:)
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Rob,
I understand your points and do not think them unreasonable. At the same time I'm not pulling my rationale of 4 for 3 out of my ass. I still need Thome to hit a bunch of HR for this to work and make a big difference. He might get hurt or might cool off, I am giving up average to get him (and SB and a pitcher). I don't think I left my roster unscathed to get what I'm getting. I'd far rather unload Contreras than Capuano to be blunt.
If you feel sufficiently strongly, I'd suggest emailing the guys in 4/5 slots and letting them know and have a look. I know they're Dressel's buds, but they're still not out of it either. They may well share your opinion. I'd ask you guys veto it soon if you do. If it's really Thome that's bothering you, so be it. I'd still be happy with offloading one of my Texas guys and taking Crawford. I'm not sure I wouldn't want to alter it further though as well because I wouldn't give up both Julio and Capuano to get Putz. One or the other, yes, both, no. I'll keep Guillen and retain his average and SB's.
Veto it before the deadline and I'll propose the following:
Me: Matthews Jr and Capuano
Dressel: Crawford and Putz
I keep Julio and Guillen and don't get Thome. Thome seems to be the sticking point.
And just to clarify one point from earlier, when I renegged on the Liriano/Hoffman deal with Scott I didn't totally bail on a trade. I opted to keep Liriano and offered up Chris Carpenter instead in a one for one deal. If you like rankings for comparisons, that was a 72 for 73 deal at the time. In retrospect it would have been a far better deal given Liriano's injury, but Scott rejected the trade.
And I do hope it's nothing personal. I'm trying to win and found a trade. I tried to make it a fair trade and did expect opposition. But have you proposed anything to anyone lately? I agree with your comments about Kevin's team, it's like he walked away totally. Having looked at his roster in detail he had a good shot, had he managed his team and there was lots of pitching to pick up on through the year, as you, I and Dressel have done. Me moreso with relievers but I've snagged a few starters lately too.
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You know Bug, you're really being too nice about this. I don't think it's up to Rob to whine about our deal that we mutually accepted until we make that trade that he wants us to make.
If Rob doesn't like the fact that my team or your team is getting better through a fair mutually beneficial deal, let him go make his own trade before the deadline.
Enough of this, these protests by Rob are becoming more and more ridiculous.
Veto it before the deadline and I'll propose the following:
Me: Matthews Jr and Capuano
Dressel: Crawford and Putz
Let not the fact that I don't want to make that particular version of the trade be lost. Let's keep the trades that you and I make to our liking, not Rob's. This isn't a 3 way deal. ;)
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More and more ridiculous?
Alls I said was that I didn't like the trade. I asked for an explanation - listened to it, and then I admitted that Brent had fair points and that it wasn't as skewed as I thought it was at first glance. I also admitted that in part I don't like the trade because it will make the team I'm trying to catch better but I still think it's skewed towards Brent, mostly because of Thome. Obviously you don't feel that way.
So I decided to vote against it.
I don't expect it to be vetoed at all and I'm not going to email other people and lobby for it to be vetoed. I asked for some explanations, I got them, I voted. If other people want to vote the same way, they can.
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Wow, Dressel drops Gary Mathews Jr... what does that say about the trade that was made a few days ago?
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Wow, Dressel drops Gary Mathews Jr... what does that say about the trade that was made a few days ago?
It means that Tom Mastny is a stud closer that I didn't want to pass on. It means I replaced Putz and still got my Capuano.
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If that trade hadn't happened would you have ever considered dropping Crawford?
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If that trade hadn't happened would you have ever considered dropping Crawford?
Oh yeah. He's a bum.
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Well my team is packing it in...
My pitching was already hurting and in the last two weeks I've lost Halladay, Papplebon and Isringhausen for the year.
Now if I can just hold onto third place for the bronze... :-\
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Well my team is packing it in...
My pitching was already hurting and in the last two weeks I've lost Halladay, Papplebon and Isringhausen for the year.
Now if I can just hold onto third place for the bronze... :-\
I'm pretty sure you will. My team was ripped to shreds by the all star break. I'll be lucky to take 4th. **** happens. I was due.
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Yeah, I figured you'd be able to appreciate the injury woes I'm going through right now.
I've got about a 10 point lead with only a few weeks to go - I should be okay but my hopes of bouncing back for a silver or gold are about dead.
It's a two horse race.
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Race to the finish should be interesting, good luck B :-*
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Race to the finish should be interesting
Damn right, you guys are going to be shellshocked when I take 1st place. :P
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Just to revisit an earlier topic, here's Mark Teixeira's numbers with 1 game to go:
.280 BA 33 HR 110 RBI 99 R 2 SB
Not too bad considering the start he got off to. These are solid 2nd round pick numbers.
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Yep, he didn't live up to a #4 pick, but he did have a very good second half of the season.
Meanwhile, Scott and Brent are tied going into the last day! The suspense is killing me.
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According to stat tracker, Bug holds a 1/2 point lead over Scott nearing the completion of games today...
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Well since there's about a zero chance of my position changing today, I'm going to go make a little bit of space in my trophy case for this spiffy new bronze. :-*
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According to stat tracker, Bug holds a 1/2 point lead over Scott nearing the completion of games today...
I don't have that, I have me up by 1/2 a point
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According to stat tracker, Bug holds a 1/2 point lead over Scott nearing the completion of games today...
I don't have that, I have me up by 1/2 a point
Nope. Bug's up. Just went up 1/2 point due to Diablos overtaking you in HR's.
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Aw crapplestiltskin, losing at the last ******* minute* :'(, oh well another 2nd place finish I guess
* On a HR to Ichiro no less ::)
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Aw crapplestiltskin, losing at the last ******* minute* :'(, oh well another 2nd place finish I guess
* On a HR to Ichiro no less ::)
Chris' team had to hit 5 HR today to nut you out of that championship, and he pulled it off.
That's my boy!!
:D
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Congratulations to the new champion, Brent.
I'm not making any excuses, I will return for what I lost In April.
:)
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Yes, congratulations Brent.
I'm quite pleased with my bronze - after coming in fifth last year. Extrapolate this into next year and I should come in first. 8)