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Title: 3.75" Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on June 7, 2013, 03:22 PM
JTA's reporting that these figures are confirmed for the Black Series:

Vizam
Darth Plageuis
Stormtrooper (Episode IV)
Clone Trooper (41st Legion)
Commander Neyo
Merumeru
Mace Windu (The Clone Wars) – confirmed for release
Luke Skywalker (Jedi Training)
Yoda (Jedi Training)
Wedge Antilles (Snowspeeder Outfit)
Darth Vader (Episode III)
Snowtrooper
Toryn Farr
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Rune Haako on June 7, 2013, 03:50 PM
No need for another Vader, but Plagueis? AWESOME!  :o

I hope they give Plagueis two different interchangeable heads, battle-damaged with breathing apparatus, and normal.

I bet Neyo comes with a realistic WAC.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on June 7, 2013, 04:07 PM
If this is true, there are some decent figures on the list.  Vizam, Toryn Farr and Snowie Wedge are cool.  Dagobah Luke has been on people's list for a while, as well as Merumeru.  I wonder if the Snowtrooper will be the sergeant?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on June 7, 2013, 04:58 PM
Hrm.  Looks like 10 resculpts and three NEW figures (Merumeru, Toryn, Plageuis).  Not exactly a lot of "AWESOME!" there.  Don't get me wrong, some of those resclupts are long, long overdue (Snow Wedge, Dagobah Luke), but I can't get excited about more Vaders, Storm/Sand/Snowtroopers or Clone/Commanders at this point. 

Still patiently waiting for a new movie Chewbacca (2009) and new Han Solo (2011).  Both of those have been mired in "re-release/repaint" hell for years now.  :( 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on June 7, 2013, 06:38 PM
This list is based on what information? At this point I gotta wonder.

Didn't they make Vizam already, maybe not ideally...but unmade skiff guards should take priority over 90's do-overs.

Plageius flies in face of what I thought was a movies only  plan on this series.

All new Stormtrooper or Snowtrooper sculpts that will be like the current clones and look strange next to what we've been buying for years? Or just rehashed stuff? There's room for improvement, to be sure.

Darth Vader sounds like the most believable thing on that list.  :P

Honestly, the choices aren't bad, but the list is half boring. I don't even care about redoing all the movie clones. They've had a few tries to get the 41st one right and blew it.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Rune Haako on June 7, 2013, 09:08 PM
Plageius flies in face of what I thought was a movies only  plan on this series.

Mara Jade?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on June 7, 2013, 09:14 PM
Hmm, no mention of CW Captain Rex I see. Still in limbo.

There should be an EU and CW slot in every wave going forward.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on June 7, 2013, 09:35 PM
Plageius flies in face of what I thought was a movies only  plan on this series.

Mara Jade?

She was planned as a Droid Factory release before the Black Series change-up, and Hasbro knew fans would be furious if the fan's choice figure wasn't a retail release.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Brian on June 7, 2013, 10:53 PM
Not a bad lineup if true, I guess, but still a bit on the boring side.  But, the more I think about it, maybe that is how it will be from now on (until the new movies start up at least).  At this point in the life of the line, we've really gotten so many figures/characters that finding something new and exciting (and realistic to make) is a little more difficult overall.  I'm with Jeff that I'm still looking forward to new Han/Chewie figures.  I still don't understand why Chewie in particular isn't a figure that isn't constantly in rotation alongside the Vader, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda, R2 grouping.  Keep putting that Early Bird or VOTC version once in awhile if you're not going to sculpt up a brand new one.  Hopefully it is coming.

Of this list, I'm excited to see what the Luke and Yoda will be like, as well as Snowspeeder Wedge, Toryn Farr, and Merumeru.  It will be interesting to see what newness they can bring Stormtrooper and Snowtrooper.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Diddly on June 7, 2013, 11:30 PM
Literally the only figures that excite me on that list are Luke and Yoda, and I know they'll screw up Yoda somehow. We've needed an accurate OT Yoda for how long now?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: evenflow on June 7, 2013, 11:42 PM
Well this list further confirms my future lack of purchasing. Only Darth Plageuis interests me.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on June 8, 2013, 02:28 AM
No need for another Vader
Not so when it comes to RotS. The last new Vader we got from that movie was in 2005 and it was far from well articulated. Although considering how soon after the ESB one this is I think it will be a pre-suit Vader. Either one with all the rips, singes, and removable limbs from during the duel (the only figure of that version that we have has only four points of articulation and is screaming) or a post duel version that has been getting into the top ten in the poll the last few years here.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on June 8, 2013, 08:09 AM
This list is based on what information? At this point I gotta wonder.


Yeah.  After the whole "The Black Series will ONLY be available in North America" mess, you have to start exercising some skepticism with some sources.

Clearly though, the Mace Windu in Clone Wars gear had been in the works.  As for everything else?  We'll see.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on June 8, 2013, 08:39 AM
Now, it's "we're going to hold it close to the vest until we reach 4000 Facebook likes. "  Okay, whatever.  Is there that many collectors still collecting?  :P
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 8, 2013, 09:29 AM
I never thought we'd see a list of new figures again! As always, a mixed bag, but at least there's a missed bag to gripe about.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on June 8, 2013, 04:25 PM
It looks like JTA got the info from WMs Inventory computer...  See pics here: http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=11874

Theed Hangar Pilot... eh.  As if Phantom Menace figures sell.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: darth broem 2 on June 8, 2013, 05:19 PM
If it's the female Theed Hangar pilot I may get it.  Do I need it.  No, but I'd take it.  I like some of these that are listed.  It's not nearly as boring as the first wave.  We are to the point where most figures are made already.  So, I understand the re-packing and re-doing of figures.  Sure there are hundreds of figures they have never done but then everyone whines how they sit on the pegs like Yarna did.  Hell people whine about Wooof pegwarming and I don't even consider him a pegwarmer.  Anyway...

Torryn Farr - been wanting that figure forever.  Hopefully it come with a console or something. 
Darth Vader - If it's crispy Vader I'm interested. 
Snow Pilot Wedge - Yep, I'd get that. 
Yoda and Luke Training - I have been wanting an update to both.  Mainly Luke. 
Mermura - Or however you spell his name.  I may or may not go for it.  We'll see.
41st Trooper - Probably wont get him.
Neyo - Meh, not that into it.  But I might get it. 
Snowtrooper - Supposed to be the Commander.  I know some people REALLY want that variant.  I like snowtroopers, so maybe I'll get it.
Stormtrooper - Can always use another and another and another.
Sandtrooper - Yeah, I'll came and get it probably.  I'm not dying to get one, but I like them.
Mace Windu (CW) - No.  I'm not into the realistic CW figures, but of course many of you are. 
Battle Droid - No.  Not into it.
Darth Plagueis.  MIght as well, but I'm not into him as much as others are. 
Viziam - Definately into this figure. 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on June 8, 2013, 06:24 PM
Theed Hanger Pilot....ANAKIN....Mwhahahahaha!!

Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on June 8, 2013, 07:10 PM
Theed Hanger Pilot....ANAKIN....Mwhahahahaha!!
I hope so. We need a good basic well articulated TPM Anakin. I was very disappointed in the MH one.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: EpicGon on June 8, 2013, 10:09 PM
I always thought this time that the new Dagobah training Luke would come
with a fabric removable jacket to fit the scene of "I can´t believe it:" (ESB)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Diddly on June 10, 2013, 01:07 AM
Maybe the Theed figure will be a re-do of this guy (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/html/tsc/050.html), thus pleasing the one guy on the planet who liked the original.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 10, 2013, 02:21 AM
I'm into that list pretty much...  The Snowtrooper though, if it's not an officer, I'd have to be insanely impressed to care.  I have a TON of the Vinty one that came out and it's quite fine as is.  Vader's Vader.

The rest, all probably things I'm quite into.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on June 10, 2013, 10:47 AM
Maybe the Theed figure will be a re-do of this guy (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/TGuide2004/html/tsc/050.html), thus pleasing the one guy on the planet who liked the original.

That was a worse figure than it should've been for the time with a strangely tiny head, decent articulation on paper...that was in reality limited by bad designs (knees that don't bend in enough, shoulders buried in torso), and outdated (oversized) weapon.

But it'll be the dark skinned Naboo pilot.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 10, 2013, 02:44 PM
I'd dig the guy pictured really. :)  I'm in the minority I know.  I'd prefer a Naboo Soldier or Security Guard though...  Neither's got a good figure at this point.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scott on October 30, 2013, 11:26 PM
JTA found these in the list:


  SW EP6 DOALLYN A7262
  SW EP6 IMPERIAL GUNNER A6793
  SW EP6 LUKE SKYWALKER A5917
  SW EP6 REE YEES A6795
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on October 30, 2013, 11:31 PM
Hmmm, Another Imperial Gunner will make the Saga one I love that much cheaper. :)

Nice mix there.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on October 31, 2013, 12:04 AM
DOALLYN!!!! YES! He has been in my top 5 (current #1) of my want list since I first started it in 2000. I just hope if he makes it out it really is him and not the skiff guard imposter.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darby on October 31, 2013, 09:50 AM
I think we can expect an ROTJ heavy wave along the lines of the ESB wave coming soon. I wonder what the Luke will be. Really nothing left undone with him from Jedi.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Greg on October 31, 2013, 09:59 AM
I think we can expect an ROTJ heavy wave along the lines of the ESB wave coming soon. I wonder what the Luke will be. Really nothing left undone with him from Jedi.

They could do an updated Endor Luke, Death Star Luke with the flap down, or a Jedi Luke. Personally I would be fine if it were the Endor version with a retooled flap-down torso. Two Lukes with one release that way.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on October 31, 2013, 02:17 PM
either my computer is acting wonky or Hasbro figured out that we are looking at these lists - cuz I can't access most of them anymore
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 1, 2013, 01:53 PM
I just hope they keep a new gunner at a reasonable hight. There needs to be some quality control in that regard. And happy to get a new Ree Yees.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scott on January 27, 2014, 01:21 PM
New rumors

http://www.jedinews.co.uk/news/news.aspx?newsID=15237

The Black Series 3.75" Range

 •#20 Ep3 Darth Vader (Star Destroyer)
•#21 Ep5 Luke Jedi Training (Dagobah)
•#22 Ep5 Yoda Yedi Training (Dagobah)
•#23 Ep5 Toryn Farr (Hoth)
•#24 Ep5 Snowtrooper Commander (Hoth)
•#25 Ep5 Wedge (Snowtrooper) (new head/helmet)
•R5 Droid
•Ep6 Sgt. Doallyn
•Ep6 Ree Yees
•Ep5 Hoth Luke "Wampa Attack" (new head)
•Ep5 Hoth Han Solo's "Search For Luke"
•Ep5 Darth Vader "Yoda's Test" (new head)

 
The Black Series 6" Range

 •#09 Ep4 Stormtrooper
•#10 Ep3 Obi-Wan Kenobi
•#11 Ep5 Luke Bespin
•#12 Ep3 Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader)
•#13 Ep4 Chewbacca
•EpII Clone Trooper
•Ep6 Darth Vader
•Ep6 Luke Jedi
 
Saga Legends

 •15 Ep1 Darth Maul
•16 Ep5 Snowtrooper (Hoth)
 
Mission Series Figures

•01 Zeb & Stromtrooper
•02 Rebels C-3PO & R2-D2

•03 EpV Darth Vader & Luke Skywalker (Bespin) Refresh
•04 EpII Yoda & Darth Sidious (Refresh)
•05 EpV Boba Fett & Stormtrooper

 
Class II Vehicles

•Ep5 Boba Fett's Slave I (Signature ESB Deco)
•Ep3 Obi-Wan's Jedi Starfighter (Utapau)
•Ep2 Anakin's Jedi Starfighter (CW Deco)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Rob on January 27, 2014, 02:22 PM
So out of the first ten or so OT 6" figures, we're looking at 3 Lukes?

Yikes.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Greg on January 27, 2014, 03:07 PM
So out of the first ten or so OT 6" figures, we're looking at 3 Lukes?

Yikes.

Yeah... that has me re-thinking being a "completist" for the 6" scale. Too many Lukes for such a short time span.

I don't think anyone made a note of it but it looks like there is a "Sandtrooper Redeco" listed in the wave with Vader and Jedi Luke. It would be cool if there is different weathering and accessories (probe droid, dewback staff, rifle from TVC Sandtrooper) with the release, but I'm guessing it will just be a pauldron re-color.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 27, 2014, 07:02 PM
Hmmm, Hoth Han?  It'd better be brown coat because that Target one was Blue and I was planning a custom figuring we may not get an update...  I'm intrigued by the Hoth Luke too.  Hope it's a lil more than just a new head because, personally, I think that Hoth Luke sucked.

It's very tall, and other than the face sculpt, I hated just about everything about it.  The torso, the molded-on thigh strap, the inaccurate height, the goofy looking shoulder joints and odd hand sculpting...  Not a good figure for a main character in a major outfit/action sequence.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on January 27, 2014, 07:46 PM
They're missing at least one 6" figure, since those are coming in groups of three.

Agreed it's too many Lukes...
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on January 27, 2014, 08:25 PM
From that list found on Hasbro's website last year by Greg:

SW R5 G19    A7261
SW EP6 SGT DOALLYN    A7262
SW EP6 REE YEES    A6795
SW EP5 HOTH LUKE WAMPA ATTACK    A8056
SW EP5 DARTH VADER YODAS TEST    A8058

SW 6 INCH EP4 CHEWBACCA    A6520
SW 6 INCH EPII CLONE TROOPER    A7529
SW 6 INCH EP5 DARTH VADER    A7268
SW 6 INCH EP6 LUKE JEDI    A7270

SW EP5 SNOWTROOPER    A6135

SW EP5 DARTH VADER VS LUKE SKYWALKER   A5920
SW EPV BOBA FETT W STORMTROOPER    A5233

So out of the stuff on this list that wasn't known about when that list was leaked, only Hoth Han, Legends Maul, and three of the Missions packs weren't on it.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: CaptainYoda on February 5, 2014, 12:35 PM
They're missing at least one 6" figure, since those are coming in groups of three.

Agreed it's too many Lukes...

I thought from here on out, the new waves would consist of 3 new figures and 1 carry forward from a previous wave.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on February 5, 2014, 01:15 PM
I hope they get to the original cantina guys in 6" scale.  Would be great to have Hammerhead, Walrusman, and Snaggletooth alongside Greedo.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on February 5, 2014, 02:18 PM
I hope they get to the original cantina guys in 6" scale.  Would be great to have Hammerhead, Walrusman, and Snaggletooth alongside Greedo.

+1
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on February 5, 2014, 03:21 PM
They're missing at least one 6" figure, since those are coming in groups of three.

Agreed it's too many Lukes...

I thought from here on out, the new waves would consist of 3 new figures and 1 carry forward from a previous wave.

That's 100% correct, they only had eight 6" figures listed, so they were missing one somewhere. (3+3+3=9)

I can't remember who it is supposed to be, but I'm pretty sure it has been floated out there somewhere.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: SnTrooper on February 5, 2014, 05:10 PM
^It was a repainted Sandtrooper.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on February 5, 2014, 09:26 PM
Ah yes, thanks, that sounds right.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Diddly on February 6, 2014, 07:58 AM
I'm kinda concerned about the 3.75 inch figures too... wasting valuable spots on figures with new heads?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2014, 08:06 PM
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Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on February 7, 2014, 10:57 AM
About halfway decent a list. This line has quite a lot of re sculpts though which is a shame. If the stuff like new head hoth Luke and Vader is what brings costs down enough to get stuff like Doallyn and Ree Yees then it's worth it. R5 droid is cool too. If Hasbro wants to reduce costs, just throw a random repaint astromech in every wave, i doubt many would object to that. Really hoping we get some more Cantina guys this year though, Hasbros been cranking out the odd Jabba goons pretty steadily, but we haven't seen a new Cantina guy since Evazan.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on May 28, 2014, 12:15 PM
According to Rebelscum (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Three_New_Toys_R_Us_Exclusive_MultiPacks_Planned_158228.asp) and the UK TRU computer system, looks like there may be some kind of Cantina and Jabba's Palace/Rancor Battle Packs coming this Fall to go along with the Battle on Endor (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=23464.0) set revealed the other day...
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on May 28, 2014, 01:34 PM
Cantina and Jabba's Palace sound very interesting.  Surprised that Hasbro doesn't do a BP similar to the Battle of Endor one, except do the Scout in Hoth colors and throw in snowtroopers, AT-AT Commanders, some rebels troops and commanders.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Paul on May 28, 2014, 04:23 PM
Ok so using the Formula that Hasbro often employs (and basically mimicking the Endor Set) we can expect:

Vechicle/Large Piece
8 re-packed Figures or so.

For Jabba's Rancor that seems easy enough
Vehicle = Rancor
8 figures could be anybody but my thought/(wish):

Jedi Luke from the Saber building scene
C-3P0
Lando Skiff Disguise
Slave Leia
Gammorean Guard
Boba Fett
Bib Fortuna (if the mold still exists)
Rancor Keeper

For the Cantina SHOWDOWN, I am scratching my head what the Vehicle/Large Piece would be....
My thought:
Landspeeder?
8 Sandtroopers (cuz somebody at the Big-H loves Sandtroopers, the figures)
 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on May 28, 2014, 05:25 PM
The RS posting had some prices attached to it.  Mind you, all of the prices were in GBP.  Here are the prices for each set:

Battle on Endor:  £99.99 price tag ($168 USD) - AT-ST + 8 figures (7 if you consider the 2 Ewoks as being the equivalent of one basic figure)

Cantina Showdown:  £39.99 ($67 USD)

Jabba's Rancor Pit:  £129.99 ($220 USD)


I think the lineups are likely going to be somewhat proportional to the price points.

CANTINA SHOWDOWN - Maybe 4 - 6 figures, tops.  I think it's probably going to include:  Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ponda Baba, Dr. Evazan and perhaps one or two other Cantina patrons

JABBA'S RANCOR PIT:  The last Rancor set with Luke retailed for $50.  With the rise in prices I think it would probably sell for $70 - $80 now.  At this price, I'm thinking we get the following:  Rancor, Jedi Luke (hopefully the sandstorm version), Gamorrean Guard, Malakili, Giran, Bib Fortuna, Slave Leia
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on May 28, 2014, 07:31 PM
I'm kind of hoping it is all old stuff...  If they sneak one or two "new" things into a big box of rehash, for a high price, that just sucks.  I didn't really get people's excitement over that Endor set unless you didn't have a significant portion of what it contains...  If these other sets are like one or two new guys and a whole lotta old, I'm a bit miffed.

Now if they're like past TRU sets with reused parts but lots of "new" sucj as the rebel pilots or arena Jedi, I'm giddy to speculate.  That Endor set was beyond uninteresting to me though.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on May 28, 2014, 09:06 PM
Same here.  I think Hasbro has pretty much been keeping to their word about these multipacks.  Either they're all re-issues, or all/mostly new.  And I'm with you on this point Jesse:  if they start sneaking in 1 or 2 new figures in a set of 6 or 8 with a rehashed vehicle or creature?  That's just uncool and manipulative.

Clearly, the Battle on Endor pack appears to be all repacks.  Just running through what's in there:
-AT-ST - I'm thinking that this is the 4th offering, correct?  There was the SOTDS Target exclusive, the K-Mart exclusive TVC version and the WalMart exclusive TLC version
-Stormtrooper (uncertain of the version)
-AT-ST Driver - from the K-Mart exclusive set
-Imperial Officer - from the K-Mart exclusive Death Star Scanning Crew set
-Ewoks - from the TRU exclusive Movie Heroes Ewok set
-Chewbacca - Early Bird version
-Han Solo (Endor) - VTSC version
-Leia (Endor - minus helmet & poncho) - VTAC version

Now if we're looking at all new for the other sets?  I'd definitely be happy.  But I get the feeling that Hasbro may want to get more mileage out of that Rancor they put together for the Target exclusive.  And the other potential figures that would likely fill out that pack have all been made within the past few years:  Malakili, Giran, Oola, the Gamorrean Guards, etc.  Taking that into consideration, I think that the Rancor set is almost certainly going to be all reissues.  To do otherwise would be bizarre.

As for the Cantina Showdown?  I'm hopeful here that maybe Hasbro can surprise me.  When I saw the name, I instantly thought of the old POTF2 Cinema Scene with Dr. Evazan, Ponda Baba and Obi-Wan Kenobi.  Hence my previous post.  I hope Hasbro has a sense of history though, and recognizes that particular scene has been done before.  Sure, the new sculpts are infinitely better than their POTF2 predecessors.  But what about something new? 

Personally, I'm hoping for a booth with Han Solo and Greedo.  If Hasbro was feeling daring, I think they should call it "Han shot first".  I don't know if they're prepared to go out on a limb like that, though.  I would be okay with re-worked versions of Han Solo and Greedo for this set.  And maybe have a nearby table of 2 Cantina patrons that haven't been done before.  THAT is a Cantina Showdown set that I'd like to see.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on May 28, 2014, 09:36 PM
if they start sneaking in 1 or 2 new figures in a set of 6 or 8 with a rehashed vehicle or creature?  That's just uncool and manipulative.

And yet, I see countless posts at other places where people are begging for "at least one new figure" in these sets.   ::)

I don't get the complaining about these sets being all repacks.  To me it's great - I can skip it, save the $75-125 and move on with my life. 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Greg on May 28, 2014, 10:47 PM
Hopefully the Cantina Showdown is actually an assortment of 2 multipacks (4- or 5-packs), similar to the Geonosis and Pilot sets in years past. Maybe some boring humans, random aliens, Mos Eisly droids, and/or a Sandtrooper or two.

As for the Rancor set, since it is more expensive I'm hoping it is all straight repacks like the Endor set. More articulation is the only way they could improve the existing Rancor, and that might not be enough to get me to buy. Unless it's bigger of course... like AT-AT size.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on May 28, 2014, 10:49 PM
I wonder with Disney's purchase if we can finally get the Tonnika Sisters.  I mean, they can't complain that they are "Star Whores"... they made a movie called "Pretty Woman" under one of their studios.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on May 29, 2014, 09:04 AM
If they're all just repacks, why would anyone need to "change their underwear" at SDCC?  ;)

Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on May 29, 2014, 09:42 AM
If they're all just repacks, why would anyone need to "change their underwear" at SDCC?  ;)



You should know by now that some sites (with staffers who have an overinflated sense of self-importance) just live to blow things out of proportion. Or they just have no sense of what's new and what's rehashed.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on May 29, 2014, 01:13 PM
I wonder with Disney's purchase if we can finally get the Tonnika Sisters.  I mean, they can't complain that they are "Star Whores"... they made a movie called "Pretty Woman" under one of their studios.

Yeah, but the movie wasn't called Pretty Whore.   ;)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on May 29, 2014, 01:55 PM
if they start sneaking in 1 or 2 new figures in a set of 6 or 8 with a rehashed vehicle or creature?  That's just uncool and manipulative.

And yet, I see countless posts at other places where people are begging for "at least one new figure" in these sets.   ::)

I don't get the complaining about these sets being all repacks.  To me it's great - I can skip it, save the $75-125 and move on with my life.

EXACTLY!

How insanely desperate to buy a Star Wars toy do you have to be, to want to buy a $100 box of stuff you have to get one or two new figures in it!?  Holy moly people are irrational in this hobby.

I've enjoyed lulls in the line because I've delved into other things I wanted to, but budget didn't allow. 

I liked the Arena Jedi...  Some didn't, but I did.  Re-using GOOD Jedi sculpts with new heads and decos...  I'll pay $40 for that.

That Endor set?  I honestly have no clue why anyone would be "excited" about that aside from someone who doesn't have most of it.  I got AT-ST's as low as $7-ish, and I have all the figures in the set two or more times over...  And I think Han looks like dick, personally.

I don't expect all new with any of these, but I mean if the Cantina set were like the Arena or Pilot set with some new heads on existing bodies redecoed, and maybe Ponda and the Doc, eh...  I could be into it.  I'm still hardly "excited" though because the name alone suggests you won't be getting everything new, and you're going to get some stuff you may not want.

Are people still popping a chub over the prospect of getting a Gammorrean Guard that much, that that Rancor set (which has to be expensive, and of which I already own a dandy Rancor) is appealing?  I mean, I know the Gammie is a cool figure and was tough to get, but...  come on!  You know you probably already have the Rancor, so can your juices really flow for that set knowing that you have the thing that's going to cost you the most with it?

I don't get it, seriously...  Some people have no self control, nor logic.

Now, if you don't have that stuff, I more than get why you like it...  But even the packaging isn't nice, really, so even packaged guys don't have reason to be joyous.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on May 31, 2014, 01:57 PM
So something related to this rumored Rancor Pit TRU exclusive wound up in my Facebook feed recently.  I follow a number of sites on FB (I'll refrain from identifying the particular site), and all of a sudden I saw in my news feed an image of a Rancor, Oola and some scenery including the gate to the Rancor's pen.  Instantly, my interest was piqued.  Was this an actual image of the Jabba's Rancor set that we had been told would make us "wet our pants"?  Was it actually something new instead of what we've been discussing here in this thread?

And then I read more of that Facebook posting.  And sure enough, this was NOT something newsworthy.  Not at all.  But it was actually an attempt by a collecting site to use some of the hype surrounding these new rumors and revelations to do a couple of things:
1 - To promote the customs section of their forums and...
2 - To beg Hasbro for playsets.  Again.

Frankly, I found this both deceitful and annoying.  Deceitful because it was a blatant attempt to cash in on some excitement regarding new product announcements to promote customs and dioramas.  And while both of those things can be cool to look at, they aren't news.  It diminishes the value of a website whose stock and trade with their readers is supposed to be NEWS.

As for it being annoying?  I stand by that assessment.  Hasbro conducted the Star Wars Q&A's for several years.  Time and time again the subjects of dioramas and playsets came up.  And like clockwork Hasbro had to state categorically that in the current non-movie year model, playsets were not viable from a business standpoint.  This continued harping on the subject has grown tiresome.  Especially when Hasbro has offered up a clear answer.  It reminds me of an old adage:  the definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing over and over, but expect a different result.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on May 31, 2014, 05:42 PM
I like when a hallway is labeled a "playset".  I think that's probably the fundamental miscommunication taking place haha.

Me, I like hallways actually, but they're really a glorified accessory.  Like the Lars Homestead.  Not a lot of "play" in that set.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 31, 2014, 06:12 PM
Count me in the group that is VERY glad there is nothing new to these sets.

I would much rather spend my money on something else than spending it on a set that has one new figure in it for $100+

I'm hoping the Cantina and Rancor sets are 100% re-releases as well.

Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on June 2, 2014, 11:25 AM
Star Wars collectors should be happy that Hasbro doesn't delve into this kind of "one new piece in a box of ten others." 

"My son" has been collecting the Disney Planes.  There are four or five planes that are available only in multi-packs, most containing 4-7 items we already own  There is even one plane that was only available at Meijers, and they don't exist in the north east.  It is really an e-bay dream come true.  I've given up on these few, but I always think that this stuff was rare with Hasbro and Star Wars.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on June 2, 2014, 11:42 AM
So something related to this rumored Rancor Pit TRU exclusive wound up in my Facebook feed recently.  I follow a number of sites on FB (I'll refrain from identifying the particular site), and all of a sudden I saw in my news feed an image of a Rancor, Oola and some scenery including the gate to the Rancor's pen.  Instantly, my interest was piqued.  Was this an actual image of the Jabba's Rancor set that we had been told would make us "wet our pants"?  Was it actually something new instead of what we've been discussing here in this thread?

And then I read more of that Facebook posting.  And sure enough, this was NOT something newsworthy.  Not at all.  But it was actually an attempt by a collecting site to use some of the hype surrounding these new rumors and revelations to do a couple of things:
1 - To promote the customs section of their forums and...
2 - To beg Hasbro for playsets.  Again.

Frankly, I found this both deceitful and annoying.  Deceitful because it was a blatant attempt to cash in on some excitement regarding new product announcements to promote customs and dioramas.  And while both of those things can be cool to look at, they aren't news.  It diminishes the value of a website whose stock and trade with their readers is supposed to be NEWS.

As for it being annoying?  I stand by that assessment.  Hasbro conducted the Star Wars Q&A's for several years.  Time and time again the subjects of dioramas and playsets came up.  And like clockwork Hasbro had to state categorically that in the current non-movie year model, playsets were not viable from a business standpoint.  This continued harping on the subject has grown tiresome.  Especially when Hasbro has offered up a clear answer.  It reminds me of an old adage:  the definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing over and over, but expect a different result.

Don't be shy, name the site.  ;) We post suggestions/speculation/what if posts like this all the time (e.g. Concept Series, and the like) . It's all about generating forum discussion, not click baiting front page traffic (where the article isn't even posted). There was nothing malevolent in our intentions.

While I don't disagree that Hasbro is not going to come around on the dedicated playset topic, that is no reason to abandon the desire or discussion about it.

Sorry that you are so annoyed.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on June 2, 2014, 11:44 AM
Had a dream last night that the "Cantina Showdown" pack was a 4-pack of modern takes on the Kenner Walrusman, Hammerhead, Snaggletooth, and Greedo - modern sculpts/acrticulation but the classic Kenner look/deco. 

It was awesome and now whatever they reveal for this set (probably Evazan/Ponda/Obi-Wan/Luke like so many are speculating) will leave me utterly disappointed if it isn't the Kenner deco stuff.  Thanks a lot, brain. :(
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on June 2, 2014, 12:32 PM

Don't be shy, name the site.  ;) We post suggestions/speculation/what if posts like this all the time (e.g. Concept Series, and the like) . It's all about generating forum discussion, not click baiting front page traffic (where the article isn't even posted). There was nothing malevolent in our intentions.

While I don't disagree that Hasbro is not going to come around on the dedicated playset topic, that is no reason to abandon the desire or discussion about it.

Sorry that you are so annoyed.

This seemed like a clear case of click baiting.  Sorry, gotta call it like I see it.  It seemed like an attempt to capitalize on traffic generated by someone else's content without adding any new information to the discussion.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2014, 02:46 PM
Yeah your brain just disappointed me too Jeff.  Way to go.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on June 2, 2014, 05:57 PM

Don't be shy, name the site.  ;) We post suggestions/speculation/what if posts like this all the time (e.g. Concept Series, and the like) . It's all about generating forum discussion, not click baiting front page traffic (where the article isn't even posted). There was nothing malevolent in our intentions.

This seemed like a clear case of click baiting.  Sorry, gotta call it like I see it.  It seemed like an attempt to capitalize on traffic generated by someone else's content without adding any new information to the discussion.

I saw the post as well over the weekend.  Maybe I'm just more used to the custom content that Yak puts out, but it didn't even occur to me that this was authentic.  The comment right above the picture uses the words "rumor" and "image mockup."  These are pretty good indicators if you take a few seconds to read.  I think It's kind of disingenuous to skip the words then accuse someone else of shady behavior caused by your misinterpretation of the photo.  The post in question had like 75 likes - did anyone else comment about the image being deceitful?  Furthermore, it didn't prompt me to click on anything.  I read the title, looked at the picture, read a few comments, and moved on.  I see plenty of sites hint at news then force you to their page to get the scoop.  THAT is click baiting.

What I find far more annoying is the supposed "ownership" of collectible news and information these days.  If I told you there was a new 6" Bounty Hunter on the way, wouldn't your first thought be to start guessing which character?  Are you not allowed to wonder or discuss the topic if you're not affiliated with the site that first posted the news?  Looks pretty clear to me that there was a rumor about an upcoming set, so Yak put out a custom visual representation in the spirit of driving discussion and speculation.  Not sure how or why you find that so annoying, but it might be time for some honest self reflection, Nick.   

Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Greg on June 2, 2014, 06:17 PM
Personally I thought that particular Rancor-related post was fine, since Hasbro would never make something as cool as what was presented in that image. :D I will admit the white background photoshop images of toys do annoy me a bit, as they look extremely similar to Hasbro's press images especially when I scroll quickly thru my FB feed.

Also thinking further about the Cantina set(s), I'm really hoping it will have mostly new figures. I think some Cantina characters like BoShek, Duros, Wuher, and the Wolfman could use updated figures. Some repaints like a blue Snaggletooth wouldn't be too bad either.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on June 2, 2014, 07:05 PM

Don't be shy, name the site.  ;) We post suggestions/speculation/what if posts like this all the time (e.g. Concept Series, and the like) . It's all about generating forum discussion, not click baiting front page traffic (where the article isn't even posted). There was nothing malevolent in our intentions.

This seemed like a clear case of click baiting.  Sorry, gotta call it like I see it.  It seemed like an attempt to capitalize on traffic generated by someone else's content without adding any new information to the discussion.

I saw the post as well over the weekend.  Maybe I'm just more used to the custom content that Yak puts out, but it didn't even occur to me that this was authentic.  The comment right above the picture uses the words "rumor" and "image mockup."  These are pretty good indicators if you take a few seconds to read.  I think It's kind of disingenuous to skip the words then accuse someone else of shady behavior caused by your misinterpretation of the photo.  The post in question had like 75 likes - did anyone else comment about the image being deceitful?  Furthermore, it didn't prompt me to click on anything.  I read the title, looked at the picture, read a few comments, and moved on.  I see plenty of sites hint at news then force you to their page to get the scoop.  THAT is click baiting.

What I find far more annoying is the supposed "ownership" of collectible news and information these days.  If I told you there was a new 6" Bounty Hunter on the way, wouldn't your first thought be to start guessing which character?  Are you not allowed to wonder or discuss the topic if you're not affiliated with the site that first posted the news?  Looks pretty clear to me that there was a rumor about an upcoming set, so Yak put out a custom visual representation in the spirit of driving discussion and speculation.  Not sure how or why you find that so annoying, but it might be time for some honest self reflection, Nick.   



I've revisited that FB post.  Since it was first posted it HAS been edited.  Perhaps someone else found it misleading, too.

Let's look at it purely from a story standpoint, first:  RS reported the news first based on some info from a TRU computer in the UK.  It came with UK pricing (it's own issue) , etc.  That's the first step in the story.  A perfectly acceptable way of passing that info onto readers is to post a headline and a link to the other sites story.  There's nothing wrong with that.  Especially if you offer attribution and links to the original source.  That's journalism 101.  I don't even care if you provide a link to a topic about it in the forum section of your site.  Topics like this are good for discussion.

So where does the actual story go from there?  The next step would be to develop the story:  release dates, figure lineups, price points, and most importantly IMAGES.  When you can provide a verified IMAGE of a new figure/vehicle/multipack you are going to see a tremendous uptick in site traffic.  And you get the ultimate confirmation in the story.

But ask anyone who runs a SW collecting website about when they get a new product image.  There is a DRAMATIC increase in site traffic.  And those clicks don't just translate to popularity.  They can also translate into higher advertising revenues for a site.

Very often when a story like this breaks you may have multiple outlets working a story.  One site may get the initial product listing info.  But another may get an image.  It happens all the time.  But in this case the RS story got people interested.  All of a sudden YF has something on the story and THERE'S AN IMAGE.  WHAT?!?!  An image in relation to a story like this INSTANTLY draws interest.  But since it was not an image of the product in question, what are readers left to think?

As for "Likes" and comments on FB postings?  Having worked at a SW collecting site that had a Facebook presence, I was witness to instances where responses that were critical of certain postings were deleted.  Some people have thin skins when it comes to their social media presence.  And some websites are not interested in having a dialogue about the quality or integrity of their content.  Likes and comments can be manipulated to suit the needs of a given page, so I'm not that inclined to give all of that information a tremendous ammount of creedence.

And following the Rancor posting, there was ANOTHER FB posting about wishlist type content.  On that occassion the first posting showed images of Hoth themed items as part of a proposed battle pack.  Evidently, that posting seemed questionable, as well.  Because there was a followup posting with almost identical imagery that now featured the bold word MOCKUP.  But already there was misleading imagery that might have led someone to think that some new Hoth themed exclusive multipack was on the way.

FWIW, JediJman, I am entitled to an opinion about what I find annoying in terms of content.  Especially if a collecting site wants people to follow them on social media.  If you put your content out there for public consumption, then that outlet opens themselves up for honest criticism in how they present their content
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2014, 07:36 PM
If it's marked as such, I have no issue with it...  If it's being dangled like a carrot, and not true, and not marked what it is, I find it annoying too...  I enjoy good speculation though, but speculation wanders (usually) into the category of wishful thinking, and then nerd deflation.  We've all been there.  :'(
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on June 2, 2014, 09:05 PM
FWIW, JediJman, I am entitled to an opinion about what I find annoying in terms of content. 
Especially if a collecting site wants people to follow them on social media.  If you put your content out there for public consumption, then that outlet opens themselves up for honest criticism in how they present their content

Of course you are entitled to your own opinion.  And likewise, the rest of us are entitled to disagree with you, especially when you claim someone is being deceitful after you failed to read their post correctly.  Now you're going to accuse them of deleting posts because you can't find one comment that maps to your line of thinking?  When your public opinion is nothing more than a blatant attack aimed at  discrediting a highly reputable source then you're the one opening himself up for criticism. 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on June 2, 2014, 10:03 PM

I've revisited that FB post.  Since it was first posted it HAS been edited.  Perhaps someone else found it misleading, too.

Let's look at it purely from a story standpoint, first:  RS reported the news first based on some info from a TRU computer in the UK.  It came with UK pricing (it's own issue) , etc.  That's the first step in the story.  A perfectly acceptable way of passing that info onto readers is to post a headline and a link to the other sites story.  There's nothing wrong with that.  Especially if you offer attribution and links to the original source.  That's journalism 101.  I don't even care if you provide a link to a topic about it in the forum section of your site.  Topics like this are good for discussion.

So where does the actual story go from there?  The next step would be to develop the story:  release dates, figure lineups, price points, and most importantly IMAGES.  When you can provide a verified IMAGE of a new figure/vehicle/multipack you are going to see a tremendous uptick in site traffic.  And you get the ultimate confirmation in the story.

But ask anyone who runs a SW collecting website about when they get a new product image.  There is a DRAMATIC increase in site traffic.  And those clicks don't just translate to popularity.  They can also translate into higher advertising revenues for a site.

Very often when a story like this breaks you may have multiple outlets working a story.  One site may get the initial product listing info.  But another may get an image.  It happens all the time.  But in this case the RS story got people interested.  All of a sudden YF has something on the story and THERE'S AN IMAGE.  WHAT?!?!  An image in relation to a story like this INSTANTLY draws interest.  But since it was not an image of the product in question, what are readers left to think?

As for "Likes" and comments on FB postings?  Having worked at a SW collecting site that had a Facebook presence, I was witness to instances where responses that were critical of certain postings were deleted.  Some people have thin skins when it comes to their social media presence.  And some websites are not interested in having a dialogue about the quality or integrity of their content.  Likes and comments can be manipulated to suit the needs of a given page, so I'm not that inclined to give all of that information a tremendous ammount of creedence.

And following the Rancor posting, there was ANOTHER FB posting about wishlist type content.  On that occassion the first posting showed images of Hoth themed items as part of a proposed battle pack.  Evidently, that posting seemed questionable, as well.  Because there was a followup posting with almost identical imagery that now featured the bold word MOCKUP.  But already there was misleading imagery that might have led someone to think that some new Hoth themed exclusive multipack was on the way.

FWIW, JediJman, I am entitled to an opinion about what I find annoying in terms of content.  Especially if a collecting site wants people to follow them on social media.  If you put your content out there for public consumption, then that outlet opens themselves up for honest criticism in how they present their content

After the discussion here, and via PM, I went back and clarified the post to avoid any additional confusion. Again, FWIW, I'll state that absolutely ZERO attempt was made to deceive anyone. We posted links to YN story on May 23, RS developing story on May 28, "All of a sudden" (i.e. 2 days later) Justin posted his mockup/what if image on Facebook ONLY - not our front page. I'm clearly not understanding the vitriol about it.

That being said, I'm no journalist, nor do I pretend to be one but I am responsible for the content on our site and social media channels and stand by our method(s) of reporting as flawed as they may be.

Anyway, how 'bout those TBS figures? I'm not convinced that the Endor set is all repacks. Something about that Imperial Officer looks "just different enough to make you mad™*".

*Credit Adam Pawlus, EntertaimentEarth, Galactic Hunter, 16bit.com
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2014, 10:46 PM
I'd not looked at it closely but a head is enough for me to not really care.  Could see them doing a new one or repainting any myriad of ones that fit it though, and making it a nuisance for many.

Classic move.

I still can't get past people wanting just like one or two new things in there and a pile of stuff most of us already have, for the prices that it'll inevitably go for.  Who, at this stage, would possibly be ok buying the Rancor, again?  I have 2 TFU ones, 1 of the new Jabba ones (the shiney slimey one), and then the POTF2 of course (not delving back into vintage)...  I'm pretty ok on Rancors.  Very little would make me want to buy something like that again, and anything I would want put into the set would annoy me immensely.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on June 2, 2014, 11:10 PM
Let's fix one thing first here...

Of course you are entitled to your own opinion.  And likewise, the rest of us are I AM entitled to disagree with you

After the discussion here, and via PM, I went back and clarified the post to avoid any additional confusion. Again, FWIW, I'll state that absolutely ZERO attempt was made to deceive anyone. We posted links to YN story on May 23, RS developing story on May 28, "All of a sudden" (i.e. 2 days later) Justin posted his mockup/what if image on Facebook ONLY - not our front page. I'm clearly not understanding the vitriol about it.

That being said, I'm no journalist, nor do I pretend to be one but I am responsible for the content on our site and social media channels and stand by our method(s) of reporting as flawed as they may be.

Anyway, how 'bout those TBS figures? I'm not convinced that the Endor set is all repacks. Something about that Imperial Officer looks "just different enough to make you mad™*".

*Credit Adam Pawlus, EntertaimentEarth, Galactic Hunter, 16bit.com

Thanks for chiming in here publically, Jay.  I know we had our private dialogue, but I think it's important that some of this is aired in an open forum.

FWIW, I hold YF in high esteem.  The site has a long history in the online SW collecting community and is one of only a few "Legacy" sites that have been consistent, reliable sources of info.  And my criticism here isn't an exercise in breaking balls.  It's really more about concern for the credibility of a site that's been around at least as long as I've been online as a collector.

Frankly, I think that we should be having MORE discussions like this in an effort to keep everyone in the community honest.  Several years ago there was a push for more sites to openly acknowledge sponsor communications that were being relayed on their front pages to readers.  The community seemed to adapt to the idea and move forward.

That being said, there is an inherent responsibility that comes along with operating and writing for a SW collecting site.  Why?  Well, we all know that Hasbro and other Star Wars licensees aren't always forthcoming with information.  And the collecting sites have served to fill in a lot of the blanks for collectors in the U.S. and internationally.  As such a lot of collectors depend on these sites for information.  Many collectors get involved in working for sites for the fun of it and their love of collecting.  But they are also taking on a responsibility to their fellow collectors.  The attention, perks and profile that a collecting site draws comes with an obligation to provide good information in a clear manner.  Sorry, but that's part of the deal.

I absolutely appreciate the effort to clarify those Facebook posts, Jay.  Thanks for doing that.  As the largest social networking site in the world, the impact of posts on Facebook should not be discounted.   Generating interest in discussion forums is a good thing.  But it should be done in such a way that's clear to the reader.

As for the Endor pack?  I think Adam is wrong on the Imperial Officer.  I think it's a straight-up reissue of the figure from the K-Mart exclusive 2-pack.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on June 3, 2014, 12:27 AM
Thanks, I'm glad were on the same page.  ;)

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As for the Endor pack?  I think Adam is wrong on the Imperial Officer.  I think it's a straight-up reissue of the figure from the K-Mart exclusive 2-pack.

To clarify, I wasn't quoting Adam regarding the figure, I was quoting him on the phrase "different enough to make you mad".

On further review, it does look like the Kmart Officer. I hope so, because I'd really like to be able to skip this set.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on June 3, 2014, 10:38 AM
I did a comparison between the YN image and the K-Mart Imperial Officer.  They're pretty much identical.  The face sculpt and the rank badge are the real tell-tales here.  And they both matched when I compared them.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on July 10, 2014, 05:29 PM
JTA's reporting that we're to get 18 new (sculpt, non-repaint, etc) figures this fall... I believe this doesn't include Doallyn, Ree-Yees, etc.  I can't believe it's this Fall, but I guess more's to be revealed at SDCC.

So, let the guessing begin as to who's going to be coming.  I think Yakface was one and Bespin Escape Leia.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2014, 05:41 PM
Hmmm...  Captain Antilles?

A new Disco Lando?

I'm wondering where pricing is heading now.  ::)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 10, 2014, 09:21 PM
New list (not rumor) (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2014/07/10/dorksidetoys-reveals-new-black-series-figures/)

Luke Skywalker Wampa Attack
Clone Captain Rex
Darth Vader Yoda’s Test
Darth Malgus
Starkiller
Imperial Navy Commander
Princess Leia Boushh
R5-G19
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on July 10, 2014, 10:33 PM
Darth Malgus
Starkiller
Imperial Navy Commander

Do these count towards the 18?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 10, 2014, 10:39 PM
No (apparently)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on July 10, 2014, 10:57 PM
"Every last figure of this wave of 18 is NOT a carry-forwarded, repacked, or reissued figure. Not one of them."

We'll see. Malgus and Starkiller are clearly carry forwards. How are they going to do an 18+ figure wave?

At any rate, happy to see SA Captain  Rex pop up on the list. Been waiting on him for awhile now.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 10, 2014, 11:05 PM
The figures listed above are not a part of the 18 "all new" figures coming later. That being said, Hasbro has said before (regarding a previous line) that the figures would be "all new" and that wasn't quite accurate. I expect the same here.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Muftak on July 10, 2014, 11:10 PM
To get technical, to the carded completist a Vintage figure on a Black Series card is a new figure, so they are right...from a certain point of view. Seems to me they're playing up the fact that assortments won't be jacked by figures from previous waves is all. But how many figures come in a case these days? Will this "wave" be spread over four cases or so?

Not much to that list that interests me so far. They're all redos of figures I find okay or EU I don't care for. Never saw an INC so I might pick up one of those if the paint looks good, otherwise I'll be happy with my 30AC version.

It is fun to see EU Legends figures still being manufactured.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 10, 2014, 11:24 PM
Not much to that list that interests me so far. They're all redos of figures I find okay or EU I don't care for. Never saw an INC so I might pick up one of those if the paint looks good, otherwise I'll be happy with my 30AC version.

If you need a TVC INC, I'll give you one. I have plenty.  :)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 11, 2014, 01:26 AM
Boushh Leia makes me think Carbonite Han upgrade may be closer than we thought.  :)

Among other JP goodies.  :-X
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Greg on July 11, 2014, 02:23 AM
Boushh Leia makes me think Carbonite Han upgrade may be closer than we thought.  :)

Among other JP goodies.  :-X

I only hope that any potential Carbonite Han comes with an actual Han figure AND a retooled carbon block from the SDCC Jar-Jar figure. That would be a nice way to make up for the POS Yoda statue with fabric bag, so of course it won't happen.

I can't wait for the long overdue Captain Rex, and the R5 should also be nice. Oddly enough I'm also looking forward to the Wampa attack Luke. I have the TVC Hoth version displayed with the mask on the Tauntaun, so I don't mind getting a variant of that outfit to display "on foot".
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 11, 2014, 10:47 AM
Yeah, the R5 and Rex will be nice, but the others are kind of boring, seems like way too many redos in the Black Series, very few that are genuinely new. And as far as redos go, I think we've needed a new cinnabun hair Leia way before any others, particularly Boushh, who I happen to think holds up pretty well in all honesty. Be nice if they could at least slap a new head on that Navy Commander, maybe do the ol grey tunic variant or somthing.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scott on July 11, 2014, 10:59 AM
We saw all of these except Vader and Leia at Toy Fair ((or they are repacks) no?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darby on July 11, 2014, 01:55 PM
The 18 figures will be interesting, especially if the individual cases pans out. It's way too many figures for a single wave, and seems aimed at an online market which is better able to manage this kind of inventory as opposed to retail. I'd love to speculate on the figures but can't think of much that would truly excite me. This recent group with Toryn Farr and the Snowtrooper Commander kind of cleans house for me personally. I imagine this group of 18 will heavily favor ROTJ, or lean that way, as Hasbro gears up for EPVII.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 11, 2014, 01:58 PM
I think Vader was there too.  Leia is the only new name.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darby on July 13, 2014, 11:59 AM
Just read JTA's rumored list of the wave of 18 for this fall and... I guess not what I was expecting, or I should say, I don't need new underwear.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on July 13, 2014, 01:53 PM
It's a cool list.  But really, until we start to actually see something from SDCC?  I have to reserve my judgement.  There's nothing that pops out and says "WOW"!  Mosep is a nice point on the list.  But it seems like this list covers a lot of ground that's already been covered numerous times before.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Rob on July 13, 2014, 03:02 PM
Other than Mosep Binneed I'm underwhelmed.

Where is Sim Aloo!?!
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 13, 2014, 08:17 PM
Other than Mosep Binneed I'm underwhelmed.

Where is Sim Aloo!?!

My sentiments exactly. I'm more excited about some of the re-releases.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on July 13, 2014, 08:49 PM
Yeah, the problem with making wild underwear claims is that it's just too easy to fall short of that mark and then look silly.  :P

Mosep does seem like a cool choice, but outside of that it's not a whole lot that blows the mind.

Did we really need another TCW-themed Anakin? I don't see how this merits a slot, even if just a repack. There's really not a lot of new territory to mine there outside of the Zygerian Slaver outfit, which is waaay to much to hope for at this point.

I guess Wolffe will be based on his later Clone Wars appearances?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on July 13, 2014, 09:32 PM
I'm guessing the Clone Commanders are just love action renditions of their animated counterparts. I'd like to see Wolffe in his bridge officer uniform.  And I'm thinking Commander Thorne is one of the Shock Trooper officers.  I had to look up Commander Doom to realize that he was in the netflix exclusive episodes.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on July 14, 2014, 12:11 AM
So... where's Han Solo at?  Not seeing the rumored Hoth Han re-do in these new rumor lists. >:(
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 14, 2014, 12:19 AM
So... where's Han Solo at?  Not seeing the rumored Hoth Han re-do in these new rumor lists. >:(

First one (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13862)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on July 14, 2014, 12:38 AM
Oh, so Han's relegated to the "stan" approved rumor lists...  great.  Won't hold my breath waiting (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=21201.msg524040#msg524040) then.   ::)

It's a cool list.  But really, until we start to actually see something from SDCC?  I have to reserve my judgement. 

Yeah... everyone is getting all excited about prospective names on a list, but when eveyone sees that they've turned out like Yoda and Dagobah Luke did, they'll go right back to hating everything again. :P ;)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2014, 01:27 AM
HHHHAAAAASSSSSSSBBBBBLLLLOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!!

Mosep is going to have unacceptable paint apps too.  Sweet.

Lol @ the Han/"Stan List" demotion.  It's in the same parking lot that holds everyone else's dreams.  I think that's become a large garage now.  I saw a new Y-Wing in it last week.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on July 14, 2014, 06:24 AM
So... where's Han Solo at?  Not seeing the rumored Hoth Han re-do in these new rumor lists. >:(

First one (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13862)

I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Diddly on July 14, 2014, 07:02 AM
The more I think about these lists the more I wonder if a lot of these rumored figures are possibly on the way just for the heck of it... take Boushh Leia for example. The last version we got was near-perfect, and while I know there can be improvements to it, I'm thinking it's more of a case of Hasbro saying "we haven't had a Boushh in circulation in almost a decade, let's make a new one."
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Greg on July 14, 2014, 12:27 PM
These rumor lists sound way too good to be true. Including the previously revealed Toryn Far and Snowspeeder Wedge waves, that would mean 40 or so figures will be hitting in the next six months. I don't foresee that happening at all. Of course if all of these figures really are coming out, I doubt they will be available anywhere except online retailers.

Part of me hopes these lists are legit though, as I would love to get the Clone Wars clone figures. I recall two were announced at Toy Fair (Doom and Wolffe) but Thorn and finally getting Rex would be a sweet bonus.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 14, 2014, 11:23 PM
Crap. I completely forgot about Stan's "rumors." I was excited for a moment.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on July 30, 2014, 10:02 AM
Crap. I completely forgot about Stan's "rumors." I was excited for a moment.

Looks like everyone's forgotten about them again, and with good reason.  How many of these ACTUALLY panned out at SDCC? 

Quote
Han Solo (Hoth Outfit)
Tzizvvit
Shasa Tiel (Ishi Tib Jabba's Palace)
Barada
Vedain (Nikto Skiff Guard Driver)
Han Solo (In Carbonite)
Lobot
Lando Calrissian
Bespin Security Guard
Power Droid
Hammerhead
Imperial Gunner (JUST ADDED!)
Yak Face (JUST ADDED!)

Let's see..... that would be NONE!  Well, the only one that might be considered halfway confirmed was the Han Solo in Hoth gear, which likely refers to the 6" Deluxe figure.  But I just have to shake my head at sites that should know better running rumors like this as news without any sort of independent verification
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darby on July 30, 2014, 04:54 PM
Yeah I just shrugged at this. No doubt some of these guys are in development, because you know, what else, but I think it's clear from what we've seen recently that the 'collector line' is not going to generate a ton of excitement and certainly not 18 figures at a crack. Maybe for the movie next year (probably) but I'd like to see some follow up from some of the places that leaned on this. A lot of the comments I see out and about regarding 'other sites' and their reporting makes me think what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 30, 2014, 05:15 PM
Let's see..... that would be NONE!  Well, the only one that might be considered halfway confirmed was the Han Solo in Hoth gear, which likely refers to the 6" Deluxe figure.  But I just have to shake my head at sites that should know better running rumors like this as news without any sort of independent verification

Agreed. With Hasbro producing large numbers of figures in years past, I have always wondered if Stan was doing nothing more than just guessing at where Hasbro would go next with figures and just throwing it out there and seeing what sticks.

But now with the breadth and depth of the line being almost non-existent, he's going to be getting less and less accurate with his guesses.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 30, 2014, 06:28 PM
Scott has some info that is pertinent to that point somewhere.  :-X
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scott on July 30, 2014, 07:18 PM
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=21201.msg524040#msg524040

His odds start to go the longer the list is out there...still not good odds though

Another way to look at it is look at our wishlist from 2009 and see how many of those have been made (almost all!)

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=18973.0
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on July 30, 2014, 08:04 PM
Hasbro just knows good taste when they read it I guess. :)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on July 31, 2014, 12:24 PM
18 figure case assortment canceled (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2014/07/31/tbs-18-figure-case-canceled/) "for something else"?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 6, 2015, 02:13 PM
Black Series 3.75" figures not quite dead yet (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2015/08/06/walmart-planogram-reveals-3-75-black-series/)?


I supposed there is always a chance that these pegs will be where the left-overs from those new Wave 7/8 shippers at Walmart will go... but nice to think there may be some new Black Series 3.75" stuff after all.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Rob on August 6, 2015, 02:53 PM
Black Series 3.75" figures not quite dead yet (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2015/08/06/walmart-planogram-reveals-3-75-black-series/)?


I supposed there is always a chance that these pegs will be where the left-overs from those new Wave 7/8 shippers at Walmart will go... but nice to think there may be some new Black Series 3.75" stuff after all.

NO WAY, HASBLOW IS GOING TO GIVE US A WHOLE AISLE OF REPACKS FOR $17.99 + TAX!!!!

Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on August 6, 2015, 05:11 PM
I would NOT count on SA TFA yet...  Wouldn't discount OT/PT filling that TBS3.75" slot though. :x
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on August 6, 2015, 06:53 PM
I would NOT count on SA TFA yet...  Wouldn't discount OT/PT filling that TBS3.75" slot though. :x

100% agree...it'll probably just be leftover Wave 7/8 stuff. I predict anger and disappointment come 9/4.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darby on August 6, 2015, 07:06 PM
Technically it shouldn't be, because they're supposed to be clearing out their SKU's, but hey who knows anymore. In any case, it's hopeful for those who want them. Until they see the price tag.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Diddly on August 6, 2015, 07:19 PM
I'll be happy to see ANY Black Series on the pegs, considering it has been a year since I last saw new stuff on the pegs (over two if we count Target and Wal-Mart!)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 6, 2015, 08:26 PM
The one thing that sticks out here?  Hasbro publically showed us that new Yavin Celebration Leia.  That figure got pulled from one wave in the second phase of the 3.75" Black Series because of some undisclosed issue.  And while Hasbro has shown us one or two figures that have never made it to market, like that second Utai running change, I think this Leia figure has a better chance of being released at a later date.

I think we're probably going to see some leaks in the next couple of weeks that might shed some light on this.  It's really just a matter of time.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 6, 2015, 08:39 PM
I would NOT count on SA TFA yet...  Wouldn't discount OT/PT filling that TBS3.75" slot though. :x

100% agree...it'll probably just be leftover Wave 7/8 stuff. I predict anger and disappointment come 9/4.

I'm doubting it being 3.75" SA TFA figures/characters too.

At the very least, it'll be the leftover Wave 7/8 stuff.  At the most,maybe a new wave of OT/PT figures in the new Ep7 Red/Black type packaging.  Stuff like that lost Ceremony Leia and figures that have been rumored for a while now, like Yakface.  Probably not TFA stuff.  And it'll be interesting to see the price once that gets out too...

Like Nick said, patience.  We'll find out soon enough at the rate stuff is leaking.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on August 6, 2015, 08:42 PM
I didn't say it'd be repacked wave 7/8.  :-*

Think people are blowing stacks early on articulation is all.

I don't think Hasbro has thrown towel in on articulated 4", I just have a "feeling" it'll be something of an aside for collectors and not a focus.  IE, TFA is obviously a focus and will be for the majority of items but the OT/PT isn't gone to Disney, and that would be the best way to do articulated 4" stuff...  For now.  TFA articulated maybe later?  Either way, strong indications 4" articulated isn't as "dead" as some want to imply I believe.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 6, 2015, 09:01 PM
I think that people got that sense of despair following the lack of news at three major events:  Toy Fair, Star Wars Celebration in Anaheim and San Diego Comic Con.  Hasbro, Lucasfilm and every other licensee have all been so tight-lipped that it gets people talking and quite possibly worried.  And when we saw such an extreme focus on the 6" scale it got people concerned about the way the entire line might be focused.  The proof will be in what we see on September 4th and beyond.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darby on August 6, 2015, 10:36 PM
Ceremony Leia is one thing I've pointed to before as evidence against the sky is falling theatrics on display here and there. They've acknowledged she's coming in the same interviews they declined to discuss SA figures 9/4 and beyond - hint, hint.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 6, 2015, 11:32 PM
I would just like to point out once again how annoying this is that we have to still be discussing this in a "rumor" thread less than a month out.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on August 7, 2015, 09:26 AM
I'm starting to think Hasbro's onto something with the mystery around this event.  If they had just shown us what's out there I'm sure there would be some praise and excitement, but there would definitely be a wave of people complaining about the products, their strategy, pricing, crummy distribution, etc.  I think a fair amount of people would just wait to get the products at a later date like usual.  With the whole Force Friday mystery, it has people talking daily and thinking about the possibilities.  I think more people will end up going to the midnight madness because of the unknowns.  I know it really bothers some of you not knowing, but from a marketing standpoint, they have fans and collectors right where they want us - anxious and excited about what's coming versus bitterly complaining and talking others out of a potential purchase. 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 7, 2015, 12:51 PM
I know it really bothers some of you not knowing, but from a marketing standpoint, they have fans and collectors right where they want us - anxious and excited about what's coming versus bitterly complaining and talking others out of a potential purchase. 

That's probably true to a point.  Better to have folks hoping and wondering than complaining...   but I'm sure the complaining will be back in droves before Force Friday is over.

In fact, thanks to twitter and facebook, there's a good chance the bitterness and complaining will be back in full force before the West Coast kids ever get to midnight madness.  Think how annoyed those West Coast guys are going to be, standing in line at their local TRU reading tweet after tweet from East Coasters who didn't find what they were hoping for on the pegs.   :P
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darby on August 7, 2015, 02:15 PM
That's a really good point about social media, Jeff. Depending on how much is spoiled before we get to 9/4 (probably most of it the way we're going) folks here in the Midwest and out west will know exactly what they're walking into for good or bad.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: indysolo007 on August 9, 2015, 08:42 PM
I'm hoping we'll know far before the night of the event. If it is the case, I'm east coast, plan to attend and will surely post for the folks in other time zones.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Rob on August 9, 2015, 09:30 PM
I'm hoping we'll know far before the night of the event. If it is the case, I'm east coast, plan to attend and will surely post for the folks in other time zones.

Define 'far before' the event.  9/4 is a measly three and a half weeks from now.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on August 9, 2015, 11:12 PM
That's probably true to a point.  Better to have folks hoping and wondering than complaining...   but I'm sure the complaining will be back in droves before Force Friday is over.

I agree - the product is whatever the product is and no amount of PR or press is going to make people like it more.  I think people caught up in the event might buy stuff they normally wouldn't have, but who knows.  I'm still on the fence about going, and even if I do I think I'll hold off on getting much unless there is something really special. 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: indysolo007 on August 10, 2015, 09:52 PM
I'm hoping we'll know far before the night of the event. If it is the case, I'm east coast, plan to attend and will surely post for the folks in other time zones.

Define 'far before' the event.  9/4 is a measly three and a half weeks from now.

Hell, I'd settle for a week before at this point. No idea what they accomplish by blacking out information. Like knowing what a few characters we've seen in a trailer won't ruin the movie. Remember how seeing Tion Medden, Wookie Warrior etc totally ruined episode 3...well other things ruined episode 3 like droids that can diagnose dying of a broken Heart.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Phenotype on August 14, 2015, 01:18 PM
http://www.blastr.com/2015-8-14/leaked-peek-hasbros-kylo-ren-captain-phasma-and-10-more-force-awakens-action-figures

First look at 3.75" figures. Not part of TBS and don't have the level of articulation that TBS figures have.  :-\
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 18, 2015, 12:35 AM
So many "retail exclusive" or "chrome collection" rumors out there again for the future of the SA 3.75" stuff...  I don't know what to believe anymore.  Here's a small sampling of the stuff I've read over the past 5 days from "legit" or "confirmed" sources:

3.75" SA is taking a break, but will be back in 2016!
3.75" SA will be on the pegs at Walmart on #ForceFriday!
3.75" SA will be relabeled "Chrome Collection", exclusively at TRU!
3.75" SA will be a shared big box retail exclusive, screwing over guys at BBTS and EE!
3.75" SA is dead forever!

If only there would have been some giant comic-con with a Hasbro presence this summer where we could have learned anything about stuff like this. (http://jedidefender.com/jsmentek/deadhorse.gif)

The sadistic part of me is hoping the "store exclusive" rumors pan out, because won't that be fun watching the social media rage when people find out they missed out on the SA 3.75" stuff because they happened to choose the wrong retailer for their #ForceFriday shopping and didn't make it to Store X in time.  >:D

And, speaking as a person who has bought 95% of my figures by the case from fine folks at BBTS or EE for the better part of 3 years...  nothing like screwing over the etailers by supposedly taking the SA 3.75" stuff out of their hands.

Then again, the "store exclusive" rumor could just be for a sub-line of 3.75" SA figures (like Walmart's TPM3D stuff) and not the full basic line.  Argh, it sucks not knowing anything.


Ugh, I need to go back to looking at the pretty TFA cards and not thinking about how messed up things are right now for the SA 3.75" line. :(
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on August 18, 2015, 10:13 AM
The sadistic part of me is hoping the "store exclusive" rumors pan out, because won't that be fun watching the social media rage when people find out they missed out on the SA 3.75" stuff because they happened to choose the wrong retailer for their #ForceFriday shopping and didn't make it to Store X in time.  >:D

Or the fact that if it's a TRU (or some other retailer) exclusive, then the cry that not everyone has a TRU within 30-50 miles of them so they feel left out of the chance.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on August 18, 2015, 12:10 PM
Oh, good one Steve.  I didn't even think about that.  That's another legit gripe. 

If you don't have a TRU (or whoever) near you, you'll be resorting to TRU.com to help you out... and we all know how much love and care they put into getting their customers MOMC product.  NONE.   :-\

At least there are forums like these and others where collectors can seek help...
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on August 18, 2015, 02:22 PM
I'm betting its wv7/8 for now all retailers and new waves 2016.  That's my bet.  *shrugs*
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on August 18, 2015, 02:39 PM
Hmmm.  This Chrome Series name has some possibilities.  Especially since Captain Phasma is the new "It" trooper with the Chrome Helmet. 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Phenotype on August 25, 2015, 02:49 PM
Here's Hasbro full line-up. No mention of a "Chrome Series" and no 3.75" Black Series figures:

http://collider.com/star-wars-force-friday-toys-vehicles-action-figures-images/
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on August 25, 2015, 03:22 PM
Not quite their "full line" up, but a good chunk of it.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Phenotype on August 26, 2015, 09:45 PM
If you look through the catalogue embedded at the end of the article it shows the full lineup.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on August 26, 2015, 11:30 PM
Exclusives are usually not included in those things.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Phenotype on August 28, 2015, 12:54 AM
Okay, so exclusives aside it's their full line-up. Any store exclusives will consist mainly of repaints anyways. It's not like we're going to get an entire line of 3.75" Force Awakens figures with all brand new molds as a store exclusive.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on August 28, 2015, 02:38 PM
Okay, so exclusives aside it's their full line-up. Any store exclusives will consist mainly of repaints anyways. It's not like we're going to get an entire line of 3.75" Force Awakens figures with all brand new molds as a store exclusive.

Or will they?????
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Phenotype on August 28, 2015, 04:35 PM
Okay, so exclusives aside it's their full line-up. Any store exclusives will consist mainly of repaints anyways. It's not like we're going to get an entire line of 3.75" Force Awakens figures with all brand new molds as a store exclusive.

Or will they?????

Look at TRU's exclusive G.I. Joe line. It's mainly repaints with a few new elements here and there like a new head or a new gun. If Hasbro is planning a store exclusive line called "The Chrome Series" what makes anyone think it's going to be all new figures? That's not cost-effective for Hasbro.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on August 28, 2015, 06:41 PM
^ Mr. Tons of Fun.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Phenotype on August 30, 2015, 11:53 AM
^ Mr. Tons of Fun.

No need for personal insults.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2015, 12:18 PM
^ Mr. Thin Skin.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Phenotype on August 30, 2015, 07:59 PM
Has nothing to do with being thin skinned. I like to avoid making things personal on forums, especially over minor disagreements.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on August 30, 2015, 08:36 PM
There have been store exclusives that had a lot of new tooling. Force Unleashed sets...Wal-Mart's Jabba the Hutt, Big Slave 1....

Also, a rumored SA line list at another site included a few characters that would likely mostly reuse existing tooling.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 30, 2015, 09:08 PM
Also, a rumored SA line list at another site included a few characters that would likely mostly reuse existing tooling.

Just out of curiosity what characters were on the list and what store is supposed to have the exclusive line?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Captain Piet on August 31, 2015, 09:31 AM
What's the source?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: McMetal on August 31, 2015, 10:00 AM
 This is the cobbled together list as per JTA: (I removed most of the annoying editorial comments)   

1. Luke Skywalker (Stormtrooper Disguise – Trash Compactor styled)
2. Han Solo (Stormtrooper Disguise – Trash Compactor styled)
3. Chewbacca (Death Star Prisoner)
4. Stormtrooper (with dent in helmet from hitting blast door)
5. R2-D2
6. Obi-Wan Kenobi
7. Princess Leia Organa (Ewok Gown)
8. 2-1B (Episode V version)
9. EV-9D9
10. Funeral Pyre Darth Vader
11. Princess Leia Organa (Yavin Ceremony)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 31, 2015, 11:48 AM
I have been a staunch supporter of Hasbro being mediocre and not the Devil's minion as many have lately but I'm gonna be pissed if I find out those figs are exclusively at Tru or wherever when the east coasters tell me at 11pm central
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on September 2, 2015, 09:48 AM
This is the cobbled together list as per JTA: (I removed most of the annoying editorial comments)   

1. Luke Skywalker (Stormtrooper Disguise – Trash Compactor styled)
2. Han Solo (Stormtrooper Disguise – Trash Compactor styled)
3. Chewbacca (Death Star Prisoner)
4. Stormtrooper (with dent in helmet from hitting blast door)
5. R2-D2
6. Obi-Wan Kenobi
7. Princess Leia Organa (Ewok Gown)
8. 2-1B (Episode V version)
9. EV-9D9
10. Funeral Pyre Darth Vader
11. Princess Leia Organa (Yavin Ceremony)



Seems a bit more wishlist than anything else.  I mean, if we were going to include EVERYTHING that Hasbro has shown and not released, why not include the A-Wing pilot and second Utai that never made it to market?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Matt on September 2, 2015, 10:06 AM
This is the cobbled together list as per JTA: (I removed most of the annoying editorial comments)

Bless you.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on September 2, 2015, 12:59 PM
Surprised to see what looks like a little corroboration for that JTA post from From 4-LOM to Zuckuss (http://4lomkuss.com/walmart-spy-report-super-articulated-exclusives/), albeit with a somewhat different lineup of figures:

E7 Kylo
E7 Firs
E6 Vader
E4 Chewie
E4 Han
E4 Luke
E4 Prin
E7 Poe
E7 Finn
E7 Rey
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 5, 2015, 05:31 PM
RE: TRU Vintage line. Should we pull the vintage thread out of the child boards?

Perhaps some of the figures on the older list will appear in the vintage line.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on September 8, 2015, 03:03 PM
No pictures yet, but Walmart links (courtesy of BanthaSkull (http://banthaskull.com/story/news_urls_for_all_walmart_black_series_figures)) for future, unannounced Walmart Black Series figures -

- SW E4 HAN SOLO (http://www.walmart.com/ip/46173533)
- SW E7 BL VILLAIN TROOPER COMMANDER (http://www.walmart.com/ip/46173530) (Phasma?)
- SW E7 BL SECONDARY HERO FIGHTER (http://www.walmart.com/ip/46173529) (?)
- SW E7 BL SIDEKICK BATTLER BLUE (http://www.walmart.com/ip/46173528) (?)
- SW E7 POE DAMERON (http://www.walmart.com/ip/46173527)
- SW E7 FINN JAKKU (http://www.walmart.com/ip/46173526)
- SW E7 REY JAKKU (http://www.walmart.com/ip/46173523)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on September 8, 2015, 05:09 PM
Interesting.  The Han listing doesn't seem like it matches up to the press release, which indicated a ROTJ version of Han Solo.  And at least three of those characters weren't included in the press release at all.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on October 9, 2015, 04:08 PM
Hasbro is going out of their way in the Q&As to kill that TRU exclusive TVC rumor...

Q&A with Imperial Shipyards (http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=9899.0):
"The rumor is not true. Vintage collection will definitely come back in the future when the time is right."

Q&A with SSG (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/2015/10/09/nycc-2015-qa-with-the-hasbro-star-wars-team/):
"3 3/4” super-articulated figures are exclusive to Walmart right now.  If we decide to create packs like you’re talking about, like the Black Series packs for TRU—while nothing’s in development as of right now, if we did that, it would stay to Walmart.  That scale, that expression, is currently exclusive to Walmart."
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on October 9, 2015, 06:36 PM
After months of vague answers about super articulated 3 3/4", now they are straight forward.

Fine with me, Vintage packaging is an excuse for them to charge more money at this point.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on October 9, 2015, 08:16 PM
via Jedi Temple Archives
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Hasbro explained that all of the Original Trilogy figures released in this line will be repacks. There will be NO NEW Original Trilogy figures. (The same is true for Prequel Trilogy figures.) The focus is on The Force Awakens right now and any slots for OT will be figure we have already seen at an earlier time (save for the delayed Princess Leia).

Yeah, sounds like it's gonna be a good wait for any new episode 1-6 figures.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on October 9, 2015, 08:37 PM
That's fine by me.  TFA kind of is important and means all new stuff.  Anything OT or PT would be wildly obscure or a resculpt...  While I want lots of that, given the timing and need for "newness" to push it, I'm ok with TFA being a focus.  If some of the repacks are nice that's just gravy.  Luke was the only one i liked in the initial wave but chewbacca makes sense.  That Vader...  Eh whatevs.  Can't all win.  Kicking off with ALL repacks is what stinks to me.  :-\  But they've sold well here soooo...
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 15, 2015, 09:47 PM
Not excited about this news at all. Somehow I feel that the 3 3/4 inch Black series line will not do well enough to justify continuing it by Walmart standards YET, I won't be able to find any just the same.
Title: Re: Black Series 3.75" Is Now Walmart Exclusive
Post by: Nicklab on January 6, 2016, 03:17 PM
Whoa.  Has the infamous Stan actually come through with an image leak?

Linky (http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/image400.jpeg)

To me, that looks like what could be a removable helmet Kylo Ren and a Resistance uniform Poe Dameron pictured with the Finn figure that was released with wave 3.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jayson on January 6, 2016, 03:57 PM
Those are 6" figures (note the knee joints on Poe)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: indysolo007 on January 6, 2016, 04:03 PM
That picture is from a September 28th article http://m.fastcompany.com/3051411/meet-the-most-powerful-force-in-the-star-wars-universe-the-man-who-makes-the-toys

Check out photo 8 in the top gallery.

And I believe confirmed to be 6 inch back then
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on January 6, 2016, 04:41 PM
That picture is from a September 28th article http://m.fastcompany.com/3051411/meet-the-most-powerful-force-in-the-star-wars-universe-the-man-who-makes-the-toys

Check out photo 8 in the top gallery.

And I believe confirmed to be 6 inch back then

Yeah, I saw the article.  Can't believe I forgot about something like this that came out in September.  The thing is, the caption in the article calls these 4" figures.  But it seems more likely that they're 6", since we've seen all 3 of those figures in 6" form already.  F**king stan.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scott on January 6, 2016, 05:54 PM
I can't believe stan is still around and people still believe his ****...
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 6, 2016, 05:57 PM
Definitely 6" figures - tell-tale signs:
1) Kylo Ren's Lightsaber - only the 6" version that came with the first 6" version released had that single-piece blade that can be removed from the hilt. The K-Mart Starkiller Base version featured a lightsaber with non-removeable blades, as does the smaller 3.75" version
2) the knees - specifically looking at the Poe figure - looks like the 6" knee design and not the "ball-pin-joint" style of the 3.75" figures.

That being said, there's no reason why the digital sculpts for many of the 6" figures couldn't be down-scaled to 3.75" - so I wouldn't be surprised if we did get that version of Poe, I also think we might get Finn in his Armor and Rey in the end-of-the-movie outfit as well - makes sense to get the three new main heroes in their two outfits from the movie...
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2016, 06:53 PM
I can't believe stan is still around and people still believe his ****...

This...  This this this this this this this, ******* this.

STOP LISTENING TO STAN, REBELSCUM!  DO THE COLLECTING WORLD A ******* FAVOR!

Here, I'm looking into my crystal ballsack as we speak.  I foresee in my balls that we'll get an unmasked Kylo Renn!!!!  OOOOoooooo  mystical!  I also foresee us getting another figure of Rey.  And BB8 too!  Ooooo!

A whole new generation of suckers to get pulled in.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 6, 2016, 09:06 PM
OMG - that's amazing! We need to start a collecting site dedicated to the prognostications of Jesse's crystal ballsack - immediately!!!
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2016, 09:25 PM
I'm already photoshopping my balls as our official image for rumor stories.  Something nice and classy.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 6, 2016, 10:13 PM
I'm already photoshopping my balls as our official image for rumor stories.  Something nice and classy.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little with that visual.

Now about that 4" SA BB-8...
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: stan on January 10, 2016, 12:04 AM
Meessa Back!   Everyone should listen to Jesse, he so right! Well everyone here take  care and have a wonderful New Year!   I be follow up after toy fair.....stay tuned!
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on April 12, 2016, 11:03 PM
So rumor has it a SA Jedi Luke is in the near future.

And I didn't touch Jesse's sack to find this.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on April 13, 2016, 12:39 AM
My balls are here for your pleasure, everyone.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on April 13, 2016, 12:24 PM
So rumor has it a SA Jedi Luke is in the near future.

Jedi Luke or Ep7 Luke?  Because they already did SA Jedi Luke in Wave 1. ;)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on April 13, 2016, 01:10 PM
So rumor has it a SA Jedi Luke is in the near future.

Man, if only they would do a SA X-Wing Luke or Luke Stormtrooper or Tatooine Luke.

Oh wait...  ;)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on April 13, 2016, 02:30 PM
Okay... I'll spell it out. ;). TFA Jedi hermit Luke with staring action feature.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on April 13, 2016, 02:55 PM
Something about this seems fishy.  Notably, the dates.  Specific release dates for individual figures are something that we've only seen for Disney's Elite Series die-cast figures.  Until we see some more images or get some more solid information, I'm going to maintain a skeptical outlook on this.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on April 13, 2016, 03:24 PM
I'd like to point out my balls predicted a mask less Kylo, and we got it.  Also a Rey too.  And my balls also called another BB8 which was the one in the multipack. 

I told you guys to trust in them. 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on April 13, 2016, 03:51 PM
Something about this seems fishy.  Notably, the dates.  Specific release dates for individual figures are something that we've only seen for Disney's Elite Series die-cast figures.  Until we see some more images or get some more solid information, I'm going to maintain a skeptical outlook on this.

The image I saw posted at JTA had a price of 12.99 Euros.  Not sure how much figures cost overseas...usually much more than here, but if not that would put it close to what we pay here.  I'm taking it as rumor for now until I see a official Hasbro release...I mean, we're talking about sweaty balls here.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on April 13, 2016, 04:33 PM
Sweaty balls can be quite prescient.  Best to trust them above all!

I didn't think too much of the pricing.  European pricing is always somewhat off from U.S. pricing.  But the figure numbers?  And the specific release dates?  Those seem like red flegs to me.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on April 13, 2016, 05:10 PM
I didn't see the numbers or release dates.  It'd be nice but we never get that info.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on April 13, 2016, 05:25 PM
I was just in France last week.  Euros are closer to US dollars now and their figures run high.  12.99 would be about right for a basic figure, but pretty cheap compared to the 6" figures I saw ( about 20-25 Euros).
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on April 13, 2016, 05:33 PM
I didn't see the numbers or release dates.  It'd be nice but we never get that info.

Here's the info from the graphic JTA posted:

#33  Clone Commander Wolffe   12/06/2016
#34  Han Solo (Episode VII)   12/13/2016
#35  Luke Skywalker (Episode VII)  12/20/2016
#36  First Order Stormtrooper   12/27/2016
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: 77Skywalker on April 25, 2016, 07:01 AM
So rumor has it a SA Jedi Luke is in the near future.

And I didn't touch Jesse's sack to find this.

I hope that now only the Luke Figure has a lightsaber with it.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Scockery on November 22, 2016, 11:45 AM
Black Series Republic Trooper Finally Gets Released (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19126)

This year's Droid Factory/BAD carded series? Cancelled but it exists in a limited capacity? Is the AT-RT driver out there, too?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2016, 01:11 PM
So this is only available in Italy?  Or should this be totally discounted because its on JTA?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on November 22, 2016, 03:55 PM
That's a totally new figure right?  Or same as what was in the VC line?  I'm only interested in tracking it down if it's truly something new.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on November 22, 2016, 04:06 PM
It's one of those "repack that may have some very slight paint deco differences" type of figures.

You probably only need it if you're a "one of everything" or carded collector.  Or if you're willing to way overpay to army build him or something.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: CorranHorn on December 6, 2016, 12:17 AM
Wasn't sure where to post this since it covers multiple waves, so hopefully this will do..

After being told about it by a buddy, I tonight saw a "greatest hits" revision case of past figures. It included Jedi Luke, Vader, Kylo, Finn, Rey, FO Stormie, Ep7 Han, Ep7 Leia, and Phasma. I forgot to take note on which were doubled but best guess would be Vader, Rey, and Kylo.

So if you're suddenly seeing some older figures not named Finn or Poe show up, this is likely the culprit
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jeff on December 6, 2016, 11:22 AM
I tonight saw a "greatest hits" revision case of past figures. It included Jedi Luke, Vader, Kylo, Finn, Rey, FO Stormie, Ep7 Han, Ep7 Leia, and Phasma. I forgot to take note on which were doubled but best guess would be Vader, Rey, and Kylo.

It's not a "greatest hits" wave - that is the standard mix of the Han/Leia/Phasma wave (Wave 4 aka 2016 W1).  The logjam of them finally just made it through to stores. ;)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 6, 2016, 12:53 PM
Yeah those slammed my area, and of course immediately before the RO case began shipping. 

The cool news is they're selling...  Slowly but surely.  Finn and Poe likely wouldn't but the rest save for Leia are doing ok.

The multi piece weapons with the RO figures are exquisite btw.  Total aside but the kind of thing this line needs more of! 
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: CorranHorn on December 6, 2016, 01:21 PM
Ahh ok, I never saw a case listing for wave 4 so assumed with so many older figures it wasn't a greatest hits case. When I found the wave 4 figures ealier in the year, I found each figure at separate stores. Crazy that there was such a logjam, of course Finn and Poe caused it, but I figured this wave was just not produced at high enough numbers.

JJ - you were one of the first people I thought of when I opened Jyn and played with her rifle. Very cool stuff!
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2016, 01:52 AM
Really well done stuff like that makes the price kind of a non issue...  The DT is really nicely done too.  Be cool if he had maybe more weapons for diversity but I'll live.  He's pretty perfect all around.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: CorranHorn on December 7, 2016, 02:19 AM
Really well done stuff like that makes the price kind of a non issue...  The DT is really nicely done too.  Be cool if he had maybe more weapons for diversity but I'll live.  He's pretty perfect all around.

Yeah both Jyn and the Deathtrooper are really great figures, some of their best work. Without knowing enough about th DT gear, I'm surprised you aren't noting that the figure doesn't have a holster for his side arm like the 6" figure does.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2016, 01:50 PM
Can't say I noticed one in the trailers but instead flcused on the main weapons they carry.  Sniper versions of things and whatnot.  A holster for it wouldve been cool though for sure.  I'm surprised they resculpted it too.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: CHEWIE on December 13, 2016, 10:30 PM
Yeah that Han/Leia/Phasma wave hit the state of Missouri over the past 10 days in ridiculous numbers at certain Walmarts... too bad it wasn't evenly distributed several months ago like it should have been.  I hope Walmart's days as the sole provider of this line are numbered.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on February 13, 2017, 10:24 AM
A rumor from JTA, so take that into account for this:

-FALL '17 possible TLJ wave - Jedi Master Luke, Snoke, and a "red guard"
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on February 13, 2017, 04:13 PM
JTA has a rumor of a possible wave that includes 2 main characters from the movie and a guard-like figure in red?  That is some crack reporting JTA.  Bold predictions indeed.  You're hearing it first right here on on Jedidefender, but there is a strong possibility that we may see both a Rey and a Finn figure in an upcoming wave, and also some kind of non-humanish character as well.  Also, all three figures will come with accessories.  Boom!  Heard it hear first.  Suck it JTA.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 13, 2017, 04:42 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 13, 2017, 07:55 PM
I honestly don't understand what's been going on over at JTA - they are definitely outspoken against Hasbro and openly aggressive about the things they don't like, but yet when it comes to rumors they post these cryptic stories with symbols or metaphors that you are left to figure out and the mods state "this is the way we have to be". Is it really? Hasbro is going to control the rumors you put out, but they're okay with you stating that everything they produce is a piece of garbage and that their decisions suck? Ummm, yeah... okay  ::)
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on February 14, 2017, 09:25 AM
Word has been spreading that Hasbro and their new PR firm are clamping down in a restrictive way.  This may be at the direction of Disney, but that's unverified.  But that seems to be the reasoning behind some rather.... cryptic communications from some sites lately.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on February 15, 2017, 05:08 PM
Word has been spreading that Hasbro and their new PR firm are clamping down in a restrictive way.  This may be at the direction of Disney, but that's unverified.  But that seems to be the reasoning behind some rather.... cryptic communications from some sites lately.

Cryptic communications...like this post?   ???
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: P-Siddy on February 15, 2017, 06:20 PM
I've gotten the same sense that Nick has.  At JTA and Yak.  Maybe Jayson or Jeff can verify this?
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on February 15, 2017, 07:50 PM
The short version (from what I've heard from one site owner) is that Hasbro's new PR company is playing hardball with fan sites that don't tow their line.  Run a rumor report or leak or some new product that they don't want publicized yet, and the PR company may cut off access to that site.  That could mean no press releases.  Or possibly no credentials for an event like Toy Fair.

I heard about one site being in just such a doghouse with the PR company (and by proxy Hasbro).  That site wound up resorting to some cryptic postings in an effort to work around the conditions set by the PR company.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on February 15, 2017, 09:45 PM
I think any of those guys would tell you that they are at times privy to information that Hasbro doesn't want released to the general public yet.  They're trusted with early news along with other perks like samples or special events, so they can add to the buzz once Hasbro has made their official announcements.  I can kind of see their point - if they have some big announcement for Toy Fair and it gets out early, that has the potential to hurt ticket sales, make the event less relevant, or whatever.  It's their news to share, so I suppose they have a right to be dicks about who gets to share it and when, though I do think they could go about it in a much more productive way.

But spilling the news early has always been a big deal with Hasbro - that's not a new mandate coming out of Disney or some new PR managment.  In a prior life (over a decade ago now) I shared some news about six new SW figures I saw in a planogram room.  I was excited to share something new with fellow collectors and there was no policy on keeping product info from the POG quiet (seeing as how I worked on a category that didn't have those kinds of concerns).  I didn't even share pictures - just mentioned the package type and the characters I saw.  The official news came out a week or two later anyway.  Still, Hasbro tracked me down by threatening the collecting site.  They sent me an apology that they had to divulge their source, then Hasbro went to the retailer I was supporting and forced that retailer to take me off the account -even though I was working in an entirely different department and rarely had access to anything in Toys.  No warning, no explanations.  Just a complete ban.  Luckily my own company understood and assigned me to another retailer, but that's a lot of effort on their part to punish someone for a fairly harmless mistake. 

These days, there's all kinds of information coming out of online retailers, inventory applications, or even overseas.  If collecting sites like this one see product codes or descriptions on other sites, they can hardly be blamed for sharing information that's already been made public by someone else.  Its really unfortunate in my opinion.  You take the most die hard supporters and information brokers of your product and neuter their ability to generate excitement and interest for new stuff. It has the potential to create a lot of negativity around something that should be making people excited and happy.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2017, 09:57 PM
I'd just say things aren't that bad but there have been changes and very good reasons things had to change some.  In some ways things haven't changed though.  Not to add to the cryptocity. :P

There's pretty solid reasoning though behind things as they currently are even if sites don't like it.  Then again things didn't need to change, Hasbro was kind of forced on that.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Darby on February 16, 2017, 12:09 AM
What Jesse said, and I'd just add a lot of JTA's hysterics are just that. Hysterics. His dying on the cross for every single rumor he can't post (yet claims credit for) is just part of the overall brand of EVERYTHING SUCKS that for some people engage in. The reality is JTA's relationship with Hasbro is strained because he's made it that way. He's been antagonistic toward them online and in person. He forced them to start having all the Q&A's recorded after the Q&A he posted that has Hasbro saying 'We've made enough female figures' which he then amended to say they didn't; he's been trading off that ever since despite his rather naked misogyny. If Hasbro did say that, then he should have stuck to the original story, consequences be damned. If they didn't, then he should have posted an apology. He did neither. He's been railing against them ever since but buys everything. Effectively promotes everything. He is wary to actually lose access to them because obviously he values his proximity to whatever cache being in the loop with Hasbro brings him.

Bottom line he's just another standard internet troll throwing molitov cocktails for all the bugs the light will attract.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: JediJman on February 16, 2017, 08:44 AM
Well said.
Title: Re: Black Series Rumors
Post by: Nicklab on February 16, 2017, 08:50 AM
Rumor has it that Hasbro had enough of the hysterics for a while and shut them out.  Considering the high drama that site tried to make their stock and trade, I agree with the decision.  The drama queen needed a serious reality check about how to deal with a licensee.  It's one thing to ask them challenging questions.  But he stepped over the line way too much.