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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Saga Collection '06 => Topic started by: Jeff on December 29, 2005, 05:51 PM
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OK, so not even counting the mini-holo variations that are out there, I've started to read about some variations in the Carkoon figures...
First up - the Stands.
Apparently someone at Hasbro had a bit of trouble with the word "Boushh". It seems like there are both Boussh abd Boushh variants out there for Leia and Chewie's stands. ::)
I guess it's OK for the carded folks since you can't see the stands in the bubble, but for you loose error collectors, you got something to do.
Second, on Boba Fett -
I've now seen him with the "flames" in the front of his legs and the "flames" packed behind his legs:
In Front vs. Behind:
(http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/d0/d7/b7_1.JPG) (http://i3.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/cc/9a/be_1.JPG)
Way to go Hasbro! ::)
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what about the new saga chewie figure? does anyone know what the correct version of the chain is on this figure? is it the one with the large loop at the top of the chain or the smalll loop at the top that is the same size as all the other chain link loops? i ask because i want to have the corrected one whichever that may be. i know i saw the small version first and all i'm seeing now is the large version.
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I saw a Leia at Toys R Us with no Boussh helmet!
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According to that otheR Site's Photo Archives, there are THREE variations of Han's staff. The staff will have either 3, 5, or 6 on it.
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According to that otheR Site's Photo Archives, there are THREE variations of Han's staff. The staff will have either 3, 5, or 6 on it.
I sure hope I get one with the 3 on it, since its a lower number it'll be the most rare!!! ::)
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Glad I finished collecting variations back with the POTF2 line. :P
Although, the Chewie with the smaller chain connector looks much better than the big one. :P
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I cracked open one of my Carbonite Han figs and noticed that there is a 1 on the staff, I also have one with a 2 on it, so that makes 1,2,3,5 & 6 staff versions. Anyone have one with a 4 on it. (I hear 4 is the chase ;))
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I've seen a difference in the actual plastic packaging on the Fett - one type has a circular hole inside it for his antenna to slide through to keep it from getting bent.
:P
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Apparently there is a variation in the Darth Vader from the Hoth wave (I know, I know - it isn't even out yet and there is a variation! ::)).
Vader can be seen in a "standing" pose or in a "lightsaber" pose.
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Okay you variation freeks, here's one I noticed after taking home a partial Hoth wave score. The purple corner, upper left hand with the wave/movie identification, has two different purple shades, much like the card shade varients on the ROTS cards. The different one seems to have a little blue in the purple.
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I cracked open one of my Carbonite Han figs and noticed that there is a 1 on the staff, I also have one with a 2 on it, so that makes 1,2,3,5 & 6 staff versions. Anyone have one with a 4 on it. (I hear 4 is the chase ;))
Checked mine out after you said this (and got my Internet up and running again)...
Guess what, I've got a 4. ;) (Doubt it means it's the rare one then)
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i have a couple questions about the chewbacca fig. is anybody spotting the small chain link (the top end of the chain) version anymore? i only saw it once, the first time i spotted this wave. all the ones i have seen after that have been the large chain link version, and i have come across about twenty of those. i also read a post on rebelscum that someone opened the small chain version and said that the large chain link loop was stuffed up under the molded neck fur area of the figure. any truth to this for anybody who has opened up one of these?
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I've not see the Chewie variation, but the stuffed link under the fur is actually kind of cool.
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I've got a fett with unpainted dent/dot on his helmet. I also have one like this in the ROTS target figure with cup series, when those first came out my target had 4, 2 with painted dents and 2 without. So far I've only found one with the dent unpainted but I beileve 2 other people on potf2.com have found unpainted dent ones as well.
There are also minor bubble changes with some of the others in the first wave. The chewbacca with large link by his head showed up first looking at datestamps. Mine is a 529?1 and my buddy in germany who got the small link chewy is a 53041.
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Found both Vader variations today. The bubble inserts are both completely different. Sorry for the bad pic.
(http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/41ad84f9z5b16c61d/5636/__sr_/d98ere2.jpg?ph4DpzDBaY47uKQe
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Nice find on the vaders. I have one on the way to me from California. I'm looking for the cape closed standing still vader with mini holo vader now. Him and the boba with flames in front and boba mini holo. You can see the misspelled stand on the leia with it still carded but its tough. The easiest way to tell is that the misspelled stand leia is on the datestamp 52441 and earlier, anything later is the correct stand.
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I found both Chewie versions. Am I to assume the small link is the first version, and ultimately be the Harder to find version?
What's everyone else finding on this?
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I found both Chewie versions. Am I to assume the small link is the first version, and ultimately be the Harder to find version?
What's everyone else finding on this?
The small link version came after the the large link one according to datestamps but then again the bly with yellow armpits was first then on the next datestamp they had white armpits and then on the next datestamp they switched back to yellow from then on.
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Yeah, I thought that originally also, but I'm hearing different reoports as well.
Thanks.
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I found both Chewie versions. Am I to assume the small link is the first version, and ultimately be the Harder to find version?
What's everyone else finding on this?
The small link version came after the the large link one according to datestamps but then again the bly with yellow armpits was first then on the next datestamp they had white armpits and then on the next datestamp they switched back to yellow from then on.
i actually found the small link version once way back when this wave was first released. since then, i have come across about 20 different chewies from various stores and all have been the large link version. i was under the impression the small link was much more rare.
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C-3PO variant.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a359/paul7819/TSC3C-3PO.jpg)(http://i22.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/16/8f/92_1_b.JPG)
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interesting… where did you find that alt. shot
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http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-SAGA-20O6-C-3PO-17-WAVE-3-IN-HAND-VARIANT_W0QQitemZ6032356470QQcategoryZ50263QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Found it thanks…
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Is Hasbro standardizing every annoying aspect of OTC? That's obviously an intentional variant. Why pull this dumb stuff?
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Why pull this dumb stuff?
To guaruntee that a possible pegwarmer sells?
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Just a heads up for all you variant collectors.
Hem Dazon and Momaw Nadon are both shipping with a BLUE cup (earlier date stamp) or a CLEAR Cup (later date stamp)... ::)
Blue Cup Hem:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/033_Hem_Dazon/saga_hem_cardf.jpg)
Clear Cup Hem:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/clearcup.jpg)
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Once again, I pity the variation hunters that MUST hunt both of these variants down. I am again flattered to be an opener that doesn't buy another of the same figure because it has a different cup. :P
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I agree with Roton! this is killing the variant hunters..or exciting them?
Jeff--
The same variant for the old saga deathsticks guy had on the cup color right?
PS: Good post Roton ;D 8)
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Variants like this are just funny.
:)
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The same variant for the old saga deathsticks guy had on the cup color right?
The only variants I recall for Elan Sleazebaggano were the ears/no ears versions
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Just a heads up for all you variant collectors.
Hem Dazon and Momaw Nadon are both shipping with a BLUE cup (earlier date stamp) or a CLEAR Cup (later date stamp)... ::)
Oh good grief - now there is a third variation (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Cantina_Bar_Glasses_98999.asp) of Hem and Momaw's cups... ::)
#1 - Blue Cup with White Rim
#2 - Clear Cup
#3 - Blue Cup with Clear Rim
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Yesterday I found the newest cup variations of Momaw and Hem. Thankfully, I'm not collecting every variant, so I passed. :)
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#1 - Blue Cup with White Rim
#2 - Clear Cup
#3 - Blue Cup with Clear Rim
Looks like Hasbro wants to make sure that these guys do not pegwarm :P
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I saw a number of all clear cups tonight... Not seen the blue-clear cups, and I own the blue-white one as I found it a couple weeks ago.
Wonder what the reasoning was on the changes unless they just really wanted to pinch a penny on production or something.
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I'd like to see all these different cups turn up in a cantina accessory set, along with the little table things and something new; maybe a pitcher or snack item? :D
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I got a couple of the crystal clear Momaws today. Strangely the Hems had the painted blue glasses, and I can tell they just opened two cases this morning.
At least I finally got a Luke and three Sandtroopers.
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A new variation for you hunters...
The first release of Heroes & Villians General Grievous (9 of 12) had the #36 Explodo-Grievous figure (which was not the figure shown on the card back):
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Heroes_and_Villians/General_Grievous/saga_hv9_cardf.jpg)
The second release of Heroes & Villians General Grievous (9 of 12), which is now shipping with the Greatest Battles Figures, has the #9 4-Armed Grievous figure (which is the figure shown on the card back):
(http://i16.ebayimg.com/06/i/07/e1/36/b5_1.JPG)
(photo taken from eBay)
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Hmmmmm, do you think this was done intentionally? ::)
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Yes!
I've actually been seeing this in the stores for a couple days but care little for H&V( Hasbro bleed an extra buck) waves..same goes for GH 3.75 waves.
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I picked up the GB C-3PO Lava Base Variant at Valencia Target Saturday. The nearby Wal-Mart had all three Cantina glass variations. These figures had much shelfwear, which suggests a lack of interest.
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I picked up the GB C-3PO Lava Base Variant at Valencia Target Saturday.
You mean he's shipping with two different bases? ???
I hadn't heard about that one yet...
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yes, a corridor one and a lava one ::) :P
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I found a grievous Heroes and Villan figure (4 Saber variation) at a Target. I also bought a production error Sandtrooper where his left hand is filled in with plastic. I can't hold his weapon :-\
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I've seen the filled-in-hand version of the Sandtrooper as well Brent, I think it's a common (or semi-common) error with this figure...
Also a weird little thing I got in the mail recently from Slothus... He sent me some Sandtroopers he'd picked up extra, and the one's pack has a lot of bronze-ish or gold-ish translucent paint on the backpack for weathering. It's the only one I have with this paint on the pack out of like well over 10 Sandtroopers (I haven't done a headcount but it's a lot now).
It's weird and very noticeable especially compared to other ST backpacks. Very odd.
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yes..I thought that was weird...but, I kind of liked it better than the plain black normal ones...boy, did you luck out....I suppose you could set him up as the trooper walking the desert and the 'clean,plain black' backpack versions driving the dewbacks?
EDIT: reference to Jesse's Sandtrooper variation
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Has anyone read (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=2076178&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1) that C-3PO has been found with metalized knees? PIC (http://www.swcollector.com/temp/c3painted/c3knee.htm) I was going to get a second one anyway, but now I may return this non-metal one. Especially since I overpaid for it.
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Dangit, I wish I would've waited to buy my C-3PO until after this variation came out. >:(
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You've got to be frickin' kidding me. Damn it Hasbro! I already got one. Why couldn't you have fixed this before releasing the wave?
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Looks like there's an error/running change in Gragra. People are finding her with and without painted nostrils and/or horns. Mine has no nostril paint, and there's a spot on her armband that's missing some paint, too.
This is getting to be a really tiresome routine. These douchebags need to step up quality control, and stop wasting my ******* time. I just did this song and dance chasing those damned Endor Threepios all over town.
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I was in TRU today looking at the glut of exclusive vehicles that are just sitting around taking up shelf space and I notcied a packaging variant with the Dagobah X-Wing. Most every one I've seen has the dragonsnale packed in under the wing. I noticed one where it was packed out in the open, near Luke. It was actually secured there too, and it looked like it was done intentionally as there were no holes for the plastic ties and the ruber bands under the wing.
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Yep, the packaging has been updated. I've seen both as well. The newer one is the one with the dragonsnake more prominently displayed.
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my tpm obi's missing his commlink but is still in perfectly PRESTINE condition which suggests that it wasn't because some kid was hrowing and kicking the package to break it loose...i think Hasbro did it intentionally... :o
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I can't believe this. Another variant in this wave? Dud Bolt has straight ears or one ear flopping....
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/tsc051dudmarsDBheadfr-tn.jpg)
I would get the one I don't want. >:(
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I think I saw variation with the Scarlac BP. I could swear I've seen a version with Han holding the staff in his right hand as opposed to how they are shipping it now with him holding it above his head in his left hand.
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curious...about the staff thing, are there number variations on the ones in the bp too? ???
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Apparently the GB Clone Commander is shipping with the red version in the package now.
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Apparently the GB Clone Commander is shipping with the red version in the package now.
Any hard conformation on that?
BTW, I have seen both versions of the Scarlac BP. The blister is configured differently on both.
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Someone over at Yakface posted a picture of the red version.
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Any hard conformation on that?
Like Brent said, there is a picture over at YakFace Forums (http://tenike1.com/tenike1/images/collection/10-24-06/DSC02124.JPG).
Great, now I have to try to track down a variant after ignoring all those Greatest Battles figures for the last few weeks... I might have looked right passed not even knowing it was there. ::)
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I don't have much to add other than one of my Naboo dickheads has his left foot on the right leg and right foot on the left leg... Now he is even a little worse. ;)
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Apparently the GB Clone Commander is shipping with the red version in the package now.
Any hard conformation on that?
Yep, I found two of the red versions at Target today, Anthony.
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Apparently the GB Clone Commander is shipping with the red version in the package now.
Any hard conformation on that?
Yep, I found two of the red versions at Target today, Anthony.
I wound up finding one myself. :P
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i find the red clone variant rather disturbing and quite annoying if you ask me.
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i find the red clone variant rather disturbing and quite annoying if you ask me.
Why?
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Of couse I have yet to see the green clone too... ::)
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Of couse I have yet to see the green clone too... ::)
I wish I could send you all ours so we could clear the pegs for En-boo waves, but I'm pretty sure they fill them right back up with GB and H&V!! >:( :(
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Meant to post this ahile ago, but figure better late than never. The GB C3PO actually has 3 variations.
Lava Base
Grey Corridor (w/black) Base
Tannish Corridor (w/black) Base
Just FYI. Saw all 3 at the same time in Walmart back in November.
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I picked up the variant light blue Holo Obi-Wan today... :)
I was amazed at the color difference between the two. I wish I would have known about this variant sooner as I already opened a dark blue one for my shelf. The light blue one is such a better color match with the rest of the recent Holo figures. :-\
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I suppose I should have posted the Darth droid bit here instead of the final 22 thread.
I've seen about 1/2 dozen in stores, and they all have the typo about "new the sith lord"
My case from EE came with the "Dark Vader" typo as well, but I haven't seen that in stores.
So far I've seen Mace's droid with Fett, Vader, and Sidious.
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I was kind of surprised to find a Stormtrooper mini-hologram packed in with R4-M6. I would have thought that Mace's droid would come with a hero mini-hologram.
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my sis has found 3 comic packs with clones instead of han at 2 different locations. all clones have been the same but not look SA and she said some parts look like stormies with a removable helmet. is there some sort of running change or something ?? because someone else on a different forum said they found the same thing. :-\
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I've noticed an error with the Green Clone Sergeants. Some of them have their belts on correctly, while others have their belts upsidedown like the ROTS clone. I also have one with an ESB stand and one with an AOTC, both have the correct name on them.
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I was kind of surprised to find a Stormtrooper mini-hologram packed in with R4-M6. I would have thought that Mace's droid would come with a hero mini-hologram.
It looks like Hasbro gave up at the with keeping with the hero/hero, villian/villan with the holo figs, I've seen several that should have been packed one way but were the other just like the Mace droid.
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my sis has found 3 comic packs with clones instead of han at 2 different locations. all clones have been the same but not look SA and she said some parts look like stormies with a removable helmet. is there some sort of running change or something ?? because someone else on a different forum said they found the same thing. :-\
Pics of these would nice if you have them. There is a good chance that these are returned packs with a clonetrooper put in place of Han and resealed to get the money back. The fact that this has been found in some other locations would not be uncommon, things like this were found quite a bit during the EIII release.
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i would have posted pics but my sis doesnt have a camera phone and she didnt want to buy them either considering im looking for Han not a random clone. :-\ im pretty confused though. when she called the first time and said she saw one i thought for sure it was a return but then she called later on and said she found another two and a different mall that was like a 40 min drive apart. and her BF(who is also a collects) said they were all packaged the same way and fit inside the packaging without gaps. that the only reason why i have been asking around. i know someone else on another board said they saw the same thing with a clone instead of Han. but if i find another one ill buy it and post pics.
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As far as errors for the TSC I've got:
4-5 codys with various parts unpainted
utapau clone with only one top helmet stripe
utapau clone with bobafett mini holo packaged backwards
camo scout trooper with super battle droid insert
canadian garindan with luke insert
GB 501st missing shoulderpad
2 bobafetts with unpainted necks (one has with unpainted dent on helmet)
possibly a couple others
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Darth Maul with paint error. I was picking it because I liked this particular version of maul but once I saw the error I couldn't pass. I'm not a collector of variations and errors bt I like having these kind of pieces in my collection.
I know there is some glare but I think you can see the paint error on the chin is all black.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c214/Tonphanan/004-2.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c214/Tonphanan/003-1.jpg)
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Darth Maul with paint error. I was picking it because I liked this particular version of maul but once I saw the error I couldn't pass. I'm not a collector of variations and errors bt I like having these kind of pieces in my collection.
I know there is some glare but I think you can see the paint error on the chin is all black.
I thought this was a paint error at first, but all of the sith training mauls I have seen look like this. ITs different from the POTJ Deluxe figures paint job, but I don't know if I'd call it a variant.
On the same topic, I found one of these with a sticker near his picture on the right side of the back of the card that reads "Figure Contains Magnet." My other one has this printed on the back.
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The picture on the back has the correct markings so I assumed this was an error but if this is showing up more often then it's just Hasbro slacking at the end of a line.
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The picture on the back has the correct markings so I assumed this was an error but if this is showing up more often then it's just Hasbro slacking at the end of a line.
I think Hasbro does that a lot. I have yet to see one of these with the painted mouth.
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Here's the Galactic Heroe packaging variant on the Rebel Soldier/Snowtrooper set:
(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4743/dsc01575kv5.jpg)
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I thought this was a paint error at first, but all of the sith training mauls I have seen look like this.
I just checked my carded TSC Mauls, and all three of them have the appropriate red painted chins, so the all-black chin variant/error is definitely not across the board...
Also, since I haven't scrolled back through this whole thread, I assume someone's pointed out the many incorrect stands included with some of the figures, and the fact that some/all of them have been subsequently corrected by Hasbro, or changed to something more appropriate. RS has had several articles up on the topic. Considering you can barely even see the stand if the figure is still carded, I'm not sweating those variations, but I'd at least like to have the corrected stands for my openers.
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in response to a old find i had (or more as my sis and her boy friend) some one else has seen the clone/chewie comic pack as well and has taken a pic. i also saw this set 2 weeks ago on the pegs at a local zellers but didnt bother picking it up cause i want the han not a crappy clone in place of him. but heres the pic, im not the only one who has seen this set.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/hockey_77/index.jpg)
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in response to a old find i had (or more as my sis and her boy friend) some one else has seen the clone/chewie comic pack as well and has taken a pic. i also saw this set 2 weeks ago on the pegs at a local zellers but didnt bother picking it up cause i want the han not a crappy clone in place of him. but heres the pic, im not the only one who has seen this set.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/hockey_77/index.jpg)
Sorry, but this looks like a repack for sure. Someone is just stocking up on red lense stormies at your expense.
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thats what i thought to but when you find one locally and then your sis who lives a good hour and a half away from you finds the exact same thing it gets you wondering.
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thats what i thought to but when you find one locally and then your sis who lives a good hour and a half away from you finds the exact same thing it gets you wondering.
It gets you wondering that there is actually more than one dishonest person in the world? Or perhaps the same swindler returned the items to two different stores? There is no way that is a factory error.
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thats what i thought to but when you find one locally and then your sis who lives a good hour and a half away from you finds the exact same thing it gets you wondering.
It gets you wondering that there is actually more than one dishonest person in the world? Or perhaps the same swindler returned the items to two different stores? There is no way that is a factory error.
how ever i am not the only one who has seen this pack like this. im not trying to argue that i am right im just stating a fact. i found 1 myself locally. my sister who lives a lot father then me found 1 there too. she had also seen a couple of the packs locally at other stores. im just saying its wierd. and why would someone go through all this trouble (traveling wise) just for 1 figure and be packing each pack with the exact same figure? that is why im confused.
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how ever i am not the only one who has seen this pack like this. im not trying to argue that i am right im just stating a fact. i found 1 myself locally. my sister who lives a lot father then me found 1 there too. she had also seen a couple of the packs locally at other stores. im just saying its wierd. and why would someone go through all this trouble (traveling wise) just for 1 figure and be packing each pack with the exact same figure? that is why im confused.
Has anyone outside of you and your sister found these? Don't mean to question your integrity, but if its just you and a family member, I hardly think there's enough evidence to support that this is a variation vs. a repacked return. Maybe whoever did it wanted to spread out his returns in case the first store caught wind of what he did? Or maybe he's trying to get some buzz aobut this being a variation so he can sell another one on Ebay for big bucks?
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how ever i am not the only one who has seen this pack like this. im not trying to argue that i am right im just stating a fact. i found 1 myself locally. my sister who lives a lot father then me found 1 there too. she had also seen a couple of the packs locally at other stores. im just saying its wierd. and why would someone go through all this trouble (traveling wise) just for 1 figure and be packing each pack with the exact same figure? that is why im confused.
Has anyone outside of you and your sister found these? Don't mean to question your integrity, but if its just you and a family member, I hardly think there's enough evidence to support that this is a variation vs. a repacked return. Maybe whoever did it wanted to spread out his returns in case the first store caught wind of what he did? Or maybe he's trying to get some buzz aobut this being a variation so he can sell another one on Ebay for big bucks?
yes 2 other people i think. the pick above is from one of them, from a different forum i just asked if i could post it on this site. if it was just me and my sis i would have also guessed it was just a switch but i think 1 of the other people doesnt live anywhere near me.
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I'm still not convinced. When the VOTC stormtrooper came out there were reports of people finding POTF2 troopers in the VOTC shells all over the US. That doesn't make them legitimate variations.
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At WM I saw something weird. It was just the plain old Naboo Escape R2 rather than the repaint Mace droid in the Mace droid bubble and card. There were three. I know that this had to be a repack and not a factory error, but it was convincing at first. Whoever repacked these did a pretty good job. Whoever repacked this is a lying ******* but a smart one!
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I didn't see this posted earlier, but today I finally got around to opening those Cantina dudes from the WM exclusive 5. All 3 had AotC bases!
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Some of mine did too Vlad... I think that was pretty much the norm on them.