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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Black Series 3.75" => Topic started by: Jeff on April 10, 2015, 10:51 AM
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Took a long time for this rumored set to show up...
According to Rebelscum (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Three_New_Toys_R_Us_Exclusive_MultiPacks_Planned_158228.asp) and the UK TRU computer system, looks like there may be some kind of Cantina and Jabba's Palace/Rancor Battle Packs coming this Fall
Saw this on Dan Curto's facebook page - Jabba's Rancor Pit Box Set (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153371899714050)
Besides the pic, there are no details other than it's probably a TRU exclusive box of stuff you probably already own (just like TRU's Endor/AT-ST box set last year).
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All good stuff in it, but yeah, all stuff I have oodles of so I'm content. :)
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There is debate as to the sculpt of the Jabba. It clearly looks to good to be the one that was exclusive to Walmart, and it's too small to be a 6" version. So, that leave it being a new sculpt. (which would be very weird).
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If that Endor set at TRU was $99.99, this thing is going to cost $499.99
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There is debate as to the sculpt of the Jabba. It clearly looks to good to be the one that was exclusive to Walmart, and it's too small to be a 6" version. So, that leave it being a new sculpt. (which would be very weird).
Going back to the original rumor (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Three_New_Toys_R_Us_Exclusive_MultiPacks_Planned_158228.asp) (which correctly called the Han/Greedo set for $40 and the Endor/ATST set for $100), then this thing is probably going to be about $130.
If Hasbro drops a brand new Jabba sculpt as the only new thing in a pack that is rumored to be around $129.99, then they truly have lost all touch with what collectors want these days.
It looks like a repainted Walmart Jabba to me (based on the arms, nostrils, and eyes), but the window-box glare and flash make it hard to tell I guess...
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I don't see a Rancor Keeper in there. Definite pass. ;)
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I actually might pick this up... I passed on the Rancor because I was pissed that Target bumped the price up $10-15. I don't think I have that Luke or 3PO either, and more Gamorreans are always nice considering how rare they were here.
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VC Luke, Slave Leia, 3-PO, Gamorean. Target Rancor and Wal-Mart Jabba. That's actually a pretty decent set.
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So, it sounds like the Jabba in this set is indeed all-new (or, a scaled down version of the Black Series 6" Jabba).
If Hasbro drops a brand new Jabba sculpt as the only new thing in a pack that is rumored to be around $129.99, then they truly have lost all touch with what collectors want these days.
I didn't really think they would stoop so low as to putting a brand new Jabba in a $130 Battle Pack... disappointing. :-\
I'd probably buy a new Jabba if he was alone (or in Vintage Collection/Kenner packaging), but I can't really bring myself to drop the extra $100 on stuff I don't really need to get this one.
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Disappointing is a nice word
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For me, its an easier buy. I never bought the Rancor, C3po, Jabba and that fluffball GG. It might not be a bad deal considering prices on these things now.
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The Wal-Mart Jabba was an excellent figure, so I think I'm fine.
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Just swap out an old Jabba and return the set to the store.
I know how Jesse likes figure swapper jokes. ;)
I'm still the only who remembers years ago when someone at Hasbro said multipacks would either be all-new or all-reissue. That person must've been reassigned. :-X
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Yep, it was Derryl DePriest ;D
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I will just buy this when it goes on clearance in Summer of 2018.
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The Wal-Mart Jabba was an excellent figure, so I think I'm fine.
I agree. The Wal-Mart Jabba is near perfect. And it came with the dais!
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Just swap out an old Jabba and return the set to the store.
I know how Jesse likes figure swapper jokes. ;)
I'm still the only who remembers years ago when someone at Hasbro said multipacks would either be all-new or all-reissue. That person must've been reassigned. :-X
Better than figure swapper headlines. ::) :P
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Seeing lots of rumors that this set will be one of those "buy it first at SDCC" sets like TRU has done the past few years (last year's was the Han/Greedo 6" 2-pack (http://www.toysrus.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=11433485&sr=1&origkw=SDCC)).
Still can't believe Hasbro is putting an all-new Jabba in a $130 pack filled out with repacks. I do not understand at all the desire that some collectors have for Hasbro to put one new thing in every battle pack, especially these $100+ sets.
Just seems like a dick way to get people to buy your over-priced box of repacks by sneaking one new thing in there. :-\
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That's EXACTLY what it is.
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Yeah I get Hasbro doing it but I find the collectors who champion it to be nothing sort of perplexing. They're often the same people who bitch about the line incessantly too, yet this angle is acceptable. That's a confusing stance to have. Unless, of course, you don't own the big pieces in it already.
Personally I liked the WM Jabba so I'm not quite sure what the 6" figure scaled down does appeal-wise to trump the other figure, not to mention no Dais and all the other goodies.
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Have we gotten any official confirmation that the Jabba is new? I just remember all of a sudden websites were saying "yeah it's new" and all we've gotten is that one RAZR quality cell phone picture for proof. If anyone with knowledge actually came out and said Jabba was new, I missed it.
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Have we gotten any official confirmation that the Jabba is new? I just remember all of a sudden websites were saying "yeah it's new" and all we've gotten is that one RAZR quality cell phone picture for proof. If anyone with knowledge actually came out and said Jabba was new, I missed it.
Hasbro confirmed it (sorta) at Celebration Anaheim (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=15439):
"...can you confirm if that is a new 3.75” Jabba the Hutt inside?"
Hasbro: I'll have to go back to the team to make sure, but I believe so, all-new.
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Have we gotten any official confirmation that the Jabba is new? I just remember all of a sudden websites were saying "yeah it's new" and all we've gotten is that one RAZR quality cell phone picture for proof. If anyone with knowledge actually came out and said Jabba was new, I missed it.
Hasbro confirmed it (sorta) at Celebration Anaheim (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=15439):
"...can you confirm if that is a new 3.75” Jabba the Hutt inside?"
Hasbro: I'll have to go back to the team to make sure, but I believe so, all-new.
So, no...they haven't confirmed it.
Honestly, I think it's a good pack for those who don't have the Rancor yet. (That would be me). I'm not sure it's $130 worth of nice, but it would be nice to have another Gamorean Guard...I never got a fourth for my Jabba dio.
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Being generous at $10/fig, that still is pricey on Jabba sans anything extra and the Rancor. Wonder what either those sell for these days?
There should be some kind of sale for this too... Still won't buy for just that Hutt but yeah if that is all stuff someone needs it's an ok purchase. For most it is a kick to the nuts on that Jabba though.
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Other people are so used to crazy prices they are calling it a bargain. I actually don't have anything in that set besides the Gamorrean and Leia, and it still seems pricey.
I've lost perspective in toy collecting. Or maybe just interest.
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Assuming the figures are $10 each, four of them is $40, and the individual carded figures had more accessories
The Rancor was sold first at $40, then $50
Walmart Jabba was sold anywhere between $30 and $40 depending on the store, but even that came with the dias, pillows, Crumb, and Oola
Even if you count the Luke as a part of the Rancor package and not an individual figure it's still a bit of a ripoff. But like I said, I don't have a lot of the stuff in the set so I'll probably pick one up.
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You forgot about the TRU mark-up.
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**Silly TRU, these are NOT 6" figures. ::)
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**Silly TRU, these are NOT 6" figures. ::)
But wouldn't it be cool! 6" scale Rancor!!
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I received additional info for this set from TRU. Price: $130.00 ::)
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$130 was the rumored price, so it's good to see it hasn't magically increased along the way like some TRU exclusives do. :P
I have no desire to buy this set. None.
I hope all the collectors who complained for Hasbro to put one new thing in these battle packs enjoy spending $130 for their 5th (6th?) version of Jabba the Hutt.
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So it'll be $99.99 then after the sale? ;D
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Some are saying the set not that overpriced if you count the 4 figures as $12.99.
Uh...sorry, not giving breaks to over-priced reissued figures, no matter how desirable they are.
Let's see the real value, break up every thing and sell it separately on eBay. :P
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I agree, I find the set grossly overpriced unless you need most of it... and especially the Rancor. The WM Jabba came with a ton more goodies that I feel like a Jabba without them is a tad naked. The Rancor's cool, so if you need it that's good.
The figures, eh... I'd say only one's truly desirable, and that's the Gammie. The others, weren't terribly tough to get.
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Ebay prices put the loose Rancor around $50, (which was its original MIB price, with a Luke included)
After that are Jabba and the 4 figures worth $80? Just don't see it.
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GH has a closer look at the all-new Jabba (http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/story/toys-r-us-jabba-hutt-star-wars-gangster-gets-new-hasbro-mold).
So, confirmed to be 100% new... still not worth $130. :-X
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What a weird thing to retool.
Kind of like the Wv8 Boussh Leia having so much new tooling to it, and not building off the last figure. No clue why. ???
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Yet we still don't get a new Yak Face. The only one we have is from POTF2.
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GH has a closer look at the all-new Jabba (http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/story/toys-r-us-jabba-hutt-star-wars-gangster-gets-new-hasbro-mold).
So, confirmed to be 100% new... still not worth $130. :-X
What is the throne that he has pictured with the Jabba's?
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So which Jabba is the new one included in this battle pack? I don't have the walmart one.
(http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/sites/default/files/imagecache/rescale_inline_250px/wysiwyg_imageupload/8/JabbaCompare01.jpg)
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The new one is the top picture right? I like the bottom one better.
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What is the throne that he has pictured with the Jabba's?
That is the Walmart Jabba (http://www.rebelscum.com/TVCExJabbasThrone.asp) throne/dais.
The new one is the top picture right? I like the bottom one better.
In that pic, yes the top one is the new TRU Jabba.
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Yeesh, the old one looks much better, almost as if it came right off of the screen. Hasbro really nailed that one. This new one looks like a disaster where they had too many cooks in the design kitchen. Way too compressed, if that makes sense.
Looks like the tail/bottom half of the "new" Jabba is the same as the Jabba Goo/Saga 04 Ultimate Jabba too.
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Well, this sucks. I guess the days of offering multipacks that are either all new or all repacks are over. And this Jabba does look good, which makes things that much worse for people who have everything else in this set from previous releases.
One thing did occur to me though. Was there some perhaps some contractual stipulation in the deal with WalMart for their exclusive SOTDS exclusive release that would disallow Hasbro from offering that Jabba in a retail exclusive for another chain? It makes me wonder just a bit.
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Well, this sucks. I guess the days of offering multipacks that are either all new or all repacks are over. And this Jabba does look good, which makes things that much worse for people who have everything else in this set from previous releases.
One thing did occur to me though. Was there some perhaps some contractual stipulation in the deal with WalMart for their exclusive SOTDS exclusive release that would disallow Hasbro from offering that Jabba in a retail exclusive for another chain? It makes me wonder just a bit.
Good question. If so, I'm glad because that Walmart version was crap = accessories were good but that Jabba was like a dog toy.
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See to me the new TRU one looks like the old Jabba Goo one with a new head. The Walmart one is nice and long with a much better head. No, she didn't say that. ;)
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Well, this sucks. I guess the days of offering multipacks that are either all new or all repacks are over.
Been over for years. Remember that great Snaggletooth that required you to buy a 3 pack with a reissued Fett and Tusken Raider to get him? (unless you bought him from China).
Strangely some people defended that move...the weird love of retro packaging clouds minds.
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Ironically enough, with all of this Jabba discussion, I just had an issue with my home's air conditioning system that may explain why Hasbro went back to the well on Jabba so quickly.
Long story short, my AC broke down about two weeks ago and was out for two days during some pretty hot and humid days with only fans for air circulation. Anyway, even with the AC back running, I checked Jabba out and he was (for lack of a better word) "sweating" on the bottom part of his body. It was as if life was imitating art, as Jabba was literally covered in a layer of slime, which has also covered the top of the dais where he sat.
I was able to clean him and the dais off with warm water, and there was no staining, discoloration, or deterioration noted, but there's no doubt that it was a combination of the rubbery material and the AC failure that led to this happening.
Maybe Hasbro doing a new one was to get a more durable mold out there, but it sucks that it's in a 130 buck exclusive pack that I have no interest in buying. Oh well, if the past is any indication, they'll use the hell out of this ,old and we will be seeing it again soon enough. Until then, if the 2010 Jabba falls apart (or if my AC decides to be a PITA again), my 2004 Ultra Jabba will be a fine sit-in.
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Well, this sucks. I guess the days of offering multipacks that are either all new or all repacks are over.
Been over for years. Remember that great Snaggletooth that required you to buy a 3 pack with a reissued Fett and Tusken Raider to get him? (unless you bought him from China).
Strangely some people defended that move...the weird love of retro packaging clouds minds.
Oh yeah...THAT. I think people seemed inclined to give Hasbro more of a pass on that Target exclusive TVC 3-pack set because of the packaging, a brand new figure, the inclusion of an army builder (Tusken Raider) and Boba Fett (perennial fan favorite) all at a sub $20 price.
With the Jabba / Rancor set? We're still in somewhat uncharted territory. This is ONE new figure in a set that's priced at well over $100. That's where this situation differs so much from the Target exclusive set and is so out of line.
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The 'Scum list the Villains Set at $24.99 retail. I think many folks waited for clearance. I never found them on such, and just bought one online from someone who probably found the sets on deep discount.
Mostly the reissues in the past were one reissued figure in set of mostly new (a few clone wars sets), with some oddities like that ROTS 9 pack with some silver Vader. Though that was when figures were $5, so a $40 set of 9 figures....seems hard to believe today. Harder to believe that was Kaybees exclusive. I thought they were defunct by then....must be because the one locally had already closed. (2009 when they all folded...)
Ironically enough, with all of this Jabba discussion, I just had an issue with my home's air conditioning system that may explain why Hasbro went back to the well on Jabba so quickly.
Long story short, my AC broke down about two weeks ago and was out for two days during some pretty hot and humid days with only fans for air circulation. Anyway, even with the AC back running, I checked Jabba out and he was (for lack of a better word) "sweating" on the bottom part of his body. It was as if life was imitating art, as Jabba was literally covered in a layer of slime, which has also covered the top of the dais where he sat.
I was able to clean him and the dais off with warm water, and there was no staining, discoloration, or deterioration noted, but there's no doubt that it was a combination of the rubbery material and the AC failure that led to this happening.
After opening mine up, my impression of the Wal-Mart Jabba was that the rubbery parts felt cheap and won't hold up over time. I'm not surprised. Though, I was expecting the material to tear.
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If you absolutely have to have this set ASAP and don't mind paying the full $130 for it, you can order one now at ToysRus.com (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=32885666).
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Or, if you absolutely, positively have money to flush down the toilet, you can pre-order one for $195 at BBTS (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS24553&mode=retail). :-X
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Whoa ho ho!
Yeah, even at the $130 I'd not even be willing to pick up that for the bits and pieces I wouldn't mind having more of, much less just for Jabba himself. I'm sadly most interested in getting another Gammie Guard haha.
BTW my WM Jabba is not sweating and my room can get uber humid since I don't have central air, just window units. Humidity/heat have been a problem in my collection room/office for years, one I'm finally finding some solutions to this year. I checked Jabba and he must've used some Goldbond powder because he was dryer than a popcorn fart.
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I just read the great review the JD main page linked to (http://mightyjabba.com/2015/07/10/toys-r-ussdcc-exclusive-black-series-jabbas-rancor-pit-set/)... nice comparison shots with the 2010 Jabba. Of course the new one suffers from shoddy paint apps which is pretty unacceptable for the price. The reviewer does end up recommending the set for people who need the Rancor (aka me) so I'll be picking one of these up when they hit TRU retail.
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I feel interested in buying that.
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I shared this over at RS.
<Quote Originally Posted by DarkKnight07 View Post
So this was really gross and quite surprising: I was comparing my Walmart Jabba from the throne set to the Jabba from the Rancor set. When I picked up the Walmart Jabba I noticed it felt oily, and almost kind of slimy, and looking at the bottom of it you can actually see spots where there are bubbles of oil for lack of a better way to describe it. Is this some super realistic action feature (I know it's not) or is this actually breaking down already? Mine can't be the only one to be doing this. Anyone else experiencing this? It definitely felt like oil on my fingers when I rubbed them together.>
I've been looking for a place to tell this story. My Jabba Walmart sat on his throne on my shelf for a few years until we finally installed a legit collection room to keep my massive figure collection away from our baby that was about to be born last winter. I painstakingly moved a few figures at a time a couple rooms over to their new home, but Walmart Jabba was stuck to his throne, and the tip of his tail was touching Max Rebo's piano and the oily secretion from the tail MELTED the part of the piano it was touching!!! I threw that Jabba away before it destroyed anything else. Funny now that a new Jabba is out, people are finally fondling the old one and discovering this. I moved 2,000 Star Wars and Marvel figures a handful at a time, Jabba was the only figure like this. The only other noteworthy destruction was yellowed VOTC scout troopers and stormies, in a room with no light and climate controlled year round.
Also funny, looked at ebay Walmart Jabba selling for $125-250, yeah right!!! It's worth $0. The throne survived ps, no damage there.
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Rubber can melt plastic. It's something I've learned from a vintage toy collecting magazine way back, as well as having some rubber treaded Stompers tanks that melted the plastic bin they were stored in!
Yeah, some figures will yellow no matter what. My 2006 Commander Cody is the best (worst) example of that.
In terms of fans noticing flawed pieces of their collections, years ago I noticed that GI JOE figures from 2002-2005 get cracking torso's from their necks down, but little attention has been paid to problem to this day (fans moved on to Modern "gen 3" stuff). The problem more or ruined some of my collection, as the only solution would be dismantling the figures.
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I just checked my Jabba over and he's fine. no sticky residue on the throne, no oiliness on his underside. I wonder if it's a widespread problem or just a few of them that have these issues.
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After reading Dresells description of his Wal-Mart Jabba I had to pull mine out of storage and found it fused to a Max Rebo piano and a cinema scene stand. The piano is ruined and now I don't know what to do with the Jabba. Very disappointing.
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Saw this at Tuesday Morning for $13...wait, that was the Star Wars Command Rancor Revenge set. :D
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I checked my Jabba and it seems ok. Not stuck to the dais and not oily.
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Stayed at my parents' house for a few days this weekend (where my collection is) and checked my 2010 Jabba and it had a few drips of grease/oil on the underside. I removed it from the dias and left it on my desk in an upside down manner as a precautionary measure. It didn't appear to have causes any damage to the dias or any of the figures surrounding the Jabba.
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Saw this at tru today. Looks pretty.
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This is marked down to $80 on TRU's website right now. Just grabbed one since I don't have the Rancor and the Jabba is a nice bonus.
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I really like that Jabba.
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I think if I saw it for a bit less I'd maybe bite at that point. Having all of it but the Jabba makes it such a waste for me though at much above $50. :-\
For some reason my WM Jabba is in nice shape too. Was pondering giving it a clear coat actually, just incase.
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You know these never even hit my area, and I totally forgot about them.
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Against my better judgement I just ordered one... I figure I'll keep the Jabba and Gammorean Guard (which I only ever managed to find 3 of in stores) and then I'll try to sell the Rancor and the rest to recoup some of the money.
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I'm still searching but still I am interested in this exclusive set.