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Title: LOST
Post by: jokabofe on May 25, 2005, 10:08 PM
Anybody else out there watching 'Lost' on ABC? I just finished watching the season finale, and quite frankly, I'm a little pissed. What the hell did I spend my last few months watching this show for? What was revealed by this episode? I think I'm even more lost now then I was before, if that's possible.

Can anybody make heads or tails out of what just transpired?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Famine on May 25, 2005, 10:23 PM
I think that hole in the ground leads to the hatch. I wanna know who the "Others" are, and whats the deal with those bleeding numbers! And damnit, he just couldn't leave the heroin alone, could he? I hate druggies!

Loche is my favorite charachter, by far, and tonight showed a bit of his dark side, when he lit the fuse, and left Hugo all alone there, till Jack ran out and speared his ass to the ground to save his life.

And what the **** was up with those guys on the boat?! Who here saw THAT coming, cause I sure didn't.  Now we got shot people alone in the water, a kidnapped son, an open hatch, a baby returned, "The Others" out there or somthing...

Wait...now that I think about it, those people who took the kid very well may be the others. They didn't get the one kid, so they took the other...wow. I just impressed myself. Not hard to do, but I digress...

Hopefully next season will clear it all up.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: jadesfire on May 25, 2005, 10:24 PM
Well, I did catch Sawyer's "Han & Chewie" remark.   ;)

I had no idea they were refering to Walt as the boy the "others" were after.  I totally forgot about Walt's "gift".  I did like the flashback that Claire had.  Was Danielle helping Claire escape or was she helping hold her hostage?  Where the hell did Jin go when the "others" attacked??  Did he fall overboard?  Is he on the boat??  I thought all of that was interesting and love a good cliff hanger but the hatch sequence left me a little down.  I was hoping for more than a long ladder.  WTF???  Are they gonna draw straws again to see who goes down?? :P

I didn't really believe anything would be resolved and I just knew Charlie would take the heroine back with him.  Bummer...but makes a good plot line for next season.  I also figured Shannon would forgive Sayid.  

I did see the seaon finale of Charmed and at least I know where the evil black cloud went....it was on the island before Jack blew it up  ::) :-X   Anyone have a guess on what the heck THAT was??
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Famine on May 25, 2005, 10:32 PM
Jin jumped overboard after the other fellah got shot, presumably to save his life. Poor Walt. Stupid stupid Charlie and his heroin.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 25, 2005, 10:41 PM
What a 2 hour pile of ****.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Darby on May 25, 2005, 10:59 PM
That was the biggest bag of air I've seen in a while.  Absolutely nothing satisfying about it at all.   :(
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Famine on May 25, 2005, 11:39 PM
Didn't that "dinosaur"s noises seem VERY mechanical to you?

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: jokabofe on May 26, 2005, 12:02 AM
Didn't that "dinosaur"s noises seem VERY mechanical to you?

Very much so... I even turned to my girlfriend and said "That sounds like one of those logger machines, or whatever that is that wipes out the rain forests for lumber."

That would have really been a ****** way to end the season. Plus, I guess if they did that then they wouldn't really have a second season. Do you think that they had a way to wrap up the season and give the answers everyone's been waiting for is the show didn't turn out to be a hit?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Famine on May 26, 2005, 12:17 AM
Especialy when they pulled Loche down towards the hole, it sounded like chains or somthing being pulled on a crank. I want NitroTNT...:(


Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 26, 2005, 12:29 AM
I enjoyed it.  I jumped off of the couch when:

Earnst blew up

The boat showed up and the "Others" took Walt

I think Jiin jumped overboard to save Sawyer, but he could've ended up on the "other" boat.

I guess it's going to be one loooong summer!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: JayDouble on May 26, 2005, 02:54 AM
When Russo (French Chick) said they we're coming for the baby, everyone thought it would be Aaron.  It actually turned out to be Walt instead. 

I'm actually pretty pleased with the finale.  Hopefully these questions will be answere in season 2.

What's in the hatch?
How the hell are Michael, Jin, and Sawyer getting back to the island?
Where did they take Walt?
How long have the "Others" been on the island?
What do the numbers mean?

Speaking of the numbers, have any of you tried them yet for the lottery?  I'm to scared to do it.   :P
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Mikey D on May 26, 2005, 08:55 AM
This show is incredibly frustrating and yet so damn enjoyable.  I'm pleased with the finale.  Sure it didn't answer any major questions, but it sets up the next episode perfectly.  It just happens that the next episode will be next season.

I knew Artz was going to blow up and yet still jumped when it happened.  The wife jumped and the baby practically kicked right through her stomach.

And the chick on the Others boat who threw the bomb - Alex, the French chick's daughter??

Did Charlie really take the heroin or did he find religion?

I'm on board for season 2. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: jokabofe on May 26, 2005, 10:25 AM
I knew Artz was going to blow up and yet still jumped when it happened. 

Yeah, same here. My girlfriend and I both said the same thing. Yet, we still jumped.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Rob on May 26, 2005, 10:37 AM
Well, I did catch Sawyer's "Han & Chewie" remark.   ;)

But did you catch last week's "This one goes there, THAT one goes there" remark when they were building the raft?     :D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 26, 2005, 01:48 PM
I read in TV Guide weeks ago that the finale would not answer all the questions, and it shouldn't.  The show is coming back next season so they have to leave stuff unresolved.  Otherwise who would want to tune in?  Alias actually had me more pissed w/ its cliffhanger then Lost did.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Jeff on May 26, 2005, 01:51 PM
Alias actually had me more pissed w/ its cliffhanger then Lost did.

No kidding!   Now THAT was a cliffhanger... "My name's not Micheal Vaughn..."  *CRASH*

On the subject of lost, I thought it was a GREAT episode.  I didn't really want too many questions answered because I want to be able to enjoy this show next year too.

I think they are doing a great job of giving you a little and then taking something back or adding something new.   :)

I will admit of course, that I wanted more out of the episode, but isn't it a classic show-biz line to "always leave them wanting more"?

Jeff
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Famine on May 26, 2005, 01:54 PM
How prominant were the zombies in Lost?

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: jokabofe on May 26, 2005, 02:12 PM
How prominant were the zombies in Lost?

What zombies?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Famine on May 26, 2005, 02:15 PM
I meant Alias. Duuuuuuurrr...  :-[

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: jokabofe on May 26, 2005, 02:20 PM
Zombies on Alias? Damn... I've got the last like 10 episodes of Alias in my tivo... I really need to sit down this weekend and have a little Alias marathon to catch up.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Jeff on May 26, 2005, 02:33 PM
Zombies on Alias? Damn... I've got the last like 10 episodes of Alias in my tivo... I really need to sit down this weekend and have a little Alias marathon to catch up.

Not to take this off-topic, but yeah - the zombies/infected on Alias were pretty cool.  It was a great episode, I love the Rimbaldi stuff!

Jeff
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 22, 2005, 06:51 PM
This is the only topic I could find about the show.

Anyone catch the premier last night?

Again, I ended up standing up in front of my tv yelling, "What the ****?!!" at the end of the show.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2005, 06:56 PM
Well, I was yelling that because I wanted to see more, but I knew that the guy with the gun to Locke's head was "Desmond," the dude who was running up and down the stadium stairs with Jack the day that the chick with the back injury was cured.

It would have been swell to learn the fate of Sawyer, Michael and the Korean "Chinese" guy in the water.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Darth Broem on September 22, 2005, 07:10 PM
Yes, I caught it last night.  I also did the WTF when it was revealed the man in the hatch was the guy he was running with at the stadium.  I could not quite catch what his relationship to him was though during the stadium run.  Is he a friend or co-worker or just a guy that happened to be running in that stadium. 

Yeah, the boat scene was pretty cool with the kid getting kidnapped.  Then that lady searching for the dog spots Walter.  Weird stuff.  I did not catch every show last season so sorry if I do not know all the names and events. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Tracy on September 22, 2005, 07:25 PM
Did anyone happen to catch "Invasion" after "Lost"  I can't get into another show, but, alas, I'm hooked!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Finale
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2005, 07:46 PM
Is he  just a guy that happened to be running in that stadium. 



From what I gathered.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: JediMAC on September 22, 2005, 08:17 PM
Yep, we got sucked in during the re-runs of Lost, and watched the premier last night as well.  Gave a big "WTF, that's lame" too when it was shown that the dude running in the stadium was one and the same as the guy in the bunker.  That's a little weird, and there better be a real good explanation for that nonsense.  Something along the lines of the people "see" (imagine) whoever they fear most or feel most strongly about, rather than "seeing" the actual person really standing there.  I dunno...

Disappointed on no news of the guys on the makeshift boat too, but I guess we'll find out soon enough, so I'll be patient.

EDIT:  I was going to edit the thread title here after I made my post, but it looks like Jeff beat me to it!  :P
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2005, 08:32 PM
there better be a real good explanation for that nonsense.  Something along the lines of the people "see" (imagine) whoever they fear most or feel most strongly about, rather than "seeing" the actual person really standing there.  I dunno...


I think they might all be dead, and are in purgatory.




Disappointed on no news of the guys on the makeshift boat too, but I guess we'll find out soon enough, so I'll be patient.


I think it's next week.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Famine on September 22, 2005, 10:20 PM
I disagree with the purgatory comment. I do believe they are lost somewhere.

The questions I have are this;

Was the guy in the hatch, Desmond, quarantined inside, or from the outside? Like is he the ill one, or is the outside the bad stuff?

I knew immediatley that he was the one, when we saw him.

Anyone catch what he injected into his arm?

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Jeff on September 22, 2005, 10:23 PM
EDIT:  I was going to edit the thread title here after I made my post, but it looks like Jeff beat me to it!  :P

 :-*

I just got finished watching the premiere again (we taped it because we knew there'd be questions).  Wow, what a great show!  I look forward to learning about what happened on the raft and why Shannon saw Walt out in that field...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Famine on September 22, 2005, 10:27 PM
I think Walt was trying to communicate with her telepathicly.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2005, 10:28 PM
I disagree with the purgatory comment. I do believe they are lost somewhere.


That may be the case, but it's some supernatural place then, if it's not a dream or purgatory, cuz it ain't earth.  Paralyzed people getting up out of their wheelchairs and walking and people's dead fathers don't walk around the island otherwise.

Your guess is as good as mine at this point, we basically know nothing.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: jokabofe on September 22, 2005, 10:30 PM
Was the guy in the hatch, Desmond, quarantined inside, or from the outside? Like is he the ill one, or is the outside the bad stuff?

Considering that they only saw the "Quarantine" on the door after they blew it off, it leads me to believe that the people on the island are the ones in quarantine. Why would you put that label on the inside of the door when the person inside would obviously know that they were quarantined. Now, why were they quarantined, that's anyone's guess.

My only complaint about the show was that it was too damn short. They should have made it a two hour season opener. I watched every episode last season when they aired, and then my girlfriend and I just watched the entire box set - 2 or 3 episodes every night - to get primed for the new season.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Famine on September 22, 2005, 10:34 PM
Considering that they only saw the "Quarantine" on the door after they blew it off, it leads me to believe that the people on the island are the ones in quarantine. Why would you put that label on the inside of the door when the person inside would obviously know that they were quarantined. Now, why were they quarantined, that's anyone's guess.

Now with that logic, why was he innoculating himself then?


Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: jokabofe on September 22, 2005, 10:40 PM
So he wouldn't catch whatever it is they have? Or maybe he had it, but the medication was keeping it under control? Maybe he was sent there to "monitor" the rest of them?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Famine on September 22, 2005, 10:44 PM
So he wouldn't catch whatever it is they have? Or maybe he had it, but the medication was keeping it under control? Maybe he was sent there to "monitor" the rest of them?


Thing is, he was doing a ****** job monitoring them.

Plus there were no TV screens. Just old 60's/70's stuff. And a DOS prompt looking PC.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Commander Cody on September 23, 2005, 12:31 AM
The washer and dryer combo were new. Pretty nice set, actually.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 23, 2005, 12:59 AM
If I recall correctly, the writes of the show have debunked the "they're in Purgatory" idea.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 23, 2005, 01:55 AM
My wife and I had the unique pleasure of watching Lost for the first time on DVD over the last two weeks. We timed it so that as soon as the season finale ended, we watched the season premier and the show didn't skip a beat!

Wouldn't be intersting if Desmond had crossed paths with each survivor?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Tracy on September 23, 2005, 07:06 AM
Wouldn't be intersting if Desmond had crossed paths with each survivor?
Now there's an interesting idea.  Didn't Desmond say somethng to the effect of "See you in the next life"? 

I think Walt was trying to communicate with her telepathicly.
This is how I took it:  When Shannon heard the "others" whispering, she started calling out, that's when she saw Walt.  It looked like he was telling her to be quiet.   Like he was trying to help her.  Maybe Walt sensed something about her and that's why he left Vincent with her and why he was protecting her.  Maybe there's more to her than being a user.   (Actually, there's probably more to each of them, that's why they were "chosen" to be on the island)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on September 23, 2005, 09:05 AM
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If I recall correctly, the writes of the show have debunked the "they're in Purgatory" idea.

I believe I've read that too, can't remember where though (TVGuide.com maybe?).

Anyways, we got hooked on this last year, but didn't really start watching "whole" episodes until the 2nd half of the season.  We've seen them all now, and caught (and taped) the season premiere this week as well.  Now we can't get enough of this show, although it is definitely frustrating/confusing.  Can't wait for the next episode, and to hopefully see what is up with the crew from the raft.  Also, what is the weirdness with Desmond in the hatch.  Definitely something going on there.  I still don't know what to think of Walt appearing to Shannon, although I've read some speculation that maybe Vincent (the dog) is his "vessel" of sorts to communicate/keep an eye on the rest of the crash survivors.  Its sort of been hinted at so far that Walt has something special about him, and maybe we'll start to see more of what that is.  Can't wait to see what's next.  Great show.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on September 23, 2005, 02:18 PM
I've seen on more than one site that the man that died in the car accident- the one that wasn't saved by Jack- is Mr. Rutherford-  Shannon's step-father.  However, I don't know, if Shannon's last name is Rutherford, I would think it's actually her father- not stepfather- and allowing Boone's father to marry her mother and causing all the resentment she has about that.  What's Boone's last name? 
And the numbers on the bottle that Desmond injects in his arm- the infamous lottery numbers as well...
and the quarantine was marked on the inside of the bunker, meaning the island is actually under the quarantine...
Unfortunately, I missed some parts of the episode trying to get my son to bed... I'm hoping for a re-run soon...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 24, 2005, 08:20 PM
Its sort of been hinted at so far that Walt has something special about him, and maybe we'll start to see more of what that is. 

Yeah it's been more than hinted.  His mom's new boyfriend outright wanted Michael to take custody of him because "weird things happen when he's around."  He was reading a book about birds when all of the sudden one came screaming into the window and broke it's neck.  He's a freaky little kid.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 25, 2005, 08:30 PM
Its sort of been hinted at so far that Walt has something special about him, and maybe we'll start to see more of what that is. 

Yeah it's been more than hinted.  His mom's new boyfriend outright wanted Michael to take custody of him because "weird things happen when he's around."  He was reading a book about birds when all of the sudden one came screaming into the window and broke it's neck.  He's a freaky little kid.

Don't forget, he's also the reason the Polar Bear kept showing up.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Jeff on September 25, 2005, 08:37 PM
Don't forget, he's also the reason the Polar BEar kept showing up.

Yeah, the polar bear which also happened to be critter featured in the issue of "The Flash" that he was reading.

I definately think Walt is a HUGE part of what the heck is going on, waiting to get more out of him especially after the backwards talking vison thing between him and shannon last week.

Jeff


ps.
I removed some posts from this thread too... drop it fellas (you know who you are).   >:(
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Famine on September 28, 2005, 08:42 PM
Just a reminder...Lost is on soon...get your snack foods ready! :D

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Rob on September 28, 2005, 10:12 PM
That was disappointing - basically the same exact cliffhanger that they used last week.

So, we all waited the whole week and got very little new out of that episode.

But of course, the preview for next week looks good.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darby on September 28, 2005, 10:47 PM
Well, we learned a little.  Any one else notice the shark had the same emblem tatooed on it as all the food under the bunker?  Obviously that guy's been down there years, thinking the world fell victim to some plague, but not long enough to justify all that ancient equipment, so somebody had been there prior, expecting a disaster.  There's bomb shelters like that all over the midwest, from back when we were sure the Russians were going to nuke us.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 28, 2005, 11:05 PM
It was kind of wierd that they started the episode with Locke going down into the hole.  As far as I can tell, that's the first time they ever went back in time from a previous epsode, with the excepton of the flashbacks.

When they found Chen at the end of the episode and the others came out of the jungle I about jumped out of my seat!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Commander Cody on September 29, 2005, 12:24 AM
His name is Jin, not Chen.


 :-[
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: JayDouble on September 29, 2005, 01:09 AM
That's some race around the world Desmond went on.  I wonder how he ended up on the island. 

I think those people that jacked Jin are from the tail section of the plane and not the Others.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 29, 2005, 08:27 AM
There's bomb shelters like that all over the midwest, from back when we were sure the Russians were going to nuke us.

Wait, they're not?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on September 29, 2005, 09:03 AM
Although a bit of time was spent as a bit of a "recap" in a way, we still learned some new things and I enjoyed the episode overall.  All the commercials said we would "know the fate of everyone on the island"...which I guess we do...sort of.  My wife and I agree, it is the type of show (at least for us) that you hate when its over because you're already looking forward to next week.  The same emblem on all of the food, his "uniform", and everything else is interesting too.  Curious to see what is up with Desmond, how/why he's there, etc.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 29, 2005, 09:10 AM

 Curious to see what is up with Desmond, how/why he's there, etc.

Same here.  And also curious about this set of numbers that Hurley won the lottery with that Desmond uses as some kind of computer code, and appeared on a part of the plane as some kind of serial numbers.

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Rob on September 29, 2005, 09:27 AM


I think those people that jacked Jin are from the tail section of the plane and not the Others.

Looked to me like it WAS the Others who captured them, they got thrown into some pit or hole with some of the people from the tail - presumably also captives of the others.

One of the people who was chasing them looked like Michael Clark Duncan in a tribal get up.

And Jin wouldn't have been so scared of (and tied up by) people from the tail of the plane.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Mikey D on September 29, 2005, 09:47 AM
You guys are all missing the best part of the episode - Kate's boobie shots while crawling through the air ducts.  Good stuff.

Like I said after last year's finale, this show is so damn entertaining yet so frustrating.  Can't wait for next week.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Rob on September 29, 2005, 10:04 AM
You guys are all missing the best part of the episode - Kate's boobie shots while crawling through the air ducts.  Good stuff.

I didn't miss that - I thought about buying the season 2 DVD just for that reason.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 29, 2005, 10:05 AM
That was disappointing - basically the same exact cliffhanger that they used last week.

So, we all waited the whole week and got very little new out of that episode.


My wife was cursing this up and down while I laughed at her. I thought it was a brilliant stroke, especially because it invoked that reaction.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 29, 2005, 11:22 AM
You guys are all missing the best part of the episode - Kate's boobie shots while crawling through the air ducts.  Good stuff.


Nope, definitely not missed.  I just didn't want to be the first freak to start talking about it.  I'm comfortable being the third freak.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: efranks on September 29, 2005, 01:19 PM
I sort of wasn't paying attention but in last nights episode, when Mike was saying goodbye to the young Walt, was that a polar bear he pulled out of the bag?  Because, if so, that's the second time we've seen polar bears associated with Walt.  The first being in the comic book on the island.

And I also believe that the people that Jin ran into were the people from the tail section, not the Others.  I read a short article about it because of the actresses that's coming on the show...Michelle Rodriguez.  Supposedly the tail section people didn't get along as well as the rest of the survivors.
 
   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: JoshEEE on September 29, 2005, 02:18 PM
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Nope, definitely not missed.  I just didn't want to be the first freak to start talking about it.  I'm comfortable being the third freak.

My fiancee's brother said "Boobies!" when that happened.  Sigh. 

So, if it wasn't for Tivo, I've decided that I'd absolutely hate watching LOST.  This show is absolutely unwatchable for me with commercials, so about halfway through last season I stopped watching it live.  Now I wait until about 9:30 to watch it so I don't have to sit through every god damned cliffhanger they choose to sprinkle between the commercials.

Last night's episode didn't really do much for me, (I really hated the cheesy way they rewinded last weeks episode and made us wait until 45 minutes through this one before we got back there again)....but I did like the last 15 minutes of the show. 

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Tracy on September 29, 2005, 02:26 PM
I sort of wasn't paying attention but in last nights episode, when Mike was saying goodbye to the young Walt, was that a polar bear he pulled out of the bag?  Because, if so, that's the second time we've seen polar bears associated with Walt.  The first being in the comic book on the island.
   E...
I thought that was a stuffed Polar Bear also, hmmmmmm........

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 6, 2005, 07:50 AM
Thoughts:

1.  Jack and his crew of strandees are armed to the teeth now.  There was a whole cache of guns down there with Desmond, everything from pistols to rifles to shotguns, Kate has already grabbed a shotgun, and I think just about everyone is going to be armed now.

2.  Food will not be a problem for a long time.  That was quite a bit down there, and as long as they still hunt to supplement it, it shouldn't be a problem.  But we all know there is going to be a huge fight over it anyway, I'm sure.

3.  That crew that came up on Jin, Michael, and Sawyer and smacked him them with the club and threw them in the pit/cage, could potentially be other survivors from the plane (tail).  Or it could really be another group that was there before them, "The Others".  At any rate, Jack's team has the guns now.  They should be able to overtake this group, who seem to have primitive weapons.

4.  Locke is breaking down psychologically, for him to yell "Jack, don't leave me alone!" as he left after Desmond is very unusual.  He's normally the "Don't tell me what I can't  do" and "I can take on the world alone" type.  He was having those flashbacks of being conned by that man and having his kidney taken at the time.  He seems fragile now.

5.  We got another nice 2 second shot of Kate  ;)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Rob on October 6, 2005, 10:23 AM
Possible Spoilers.... You've been warned.






I was reading a blurb from the producer of the show (one of the producers?) where he was saying that they thought it would be neat to contrast two types of survival societies - the first, where 40 or so people live communally and everything is peachy and they all look to a few people to lead and they pretty much all get along.  The other, is a smaller group of survivors who grow more authoritarian and dominating in an effort to survive (the folks from the tail of the plane).  He went on to say that it would be interesting to see how those two leaders clashed once they met.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on October 6, 2005, 10:27 AM
That's an interesting idea...I could see that happening. As for last night's episode, we really enjoyed it.  Pretty much always do though.  The teaser for next week's show makes you crazy with the wait (esp. the part with Jin...I'll leave it at that in case anyone is avoiding spoilery stuff).  Glad we got to learn a little more about the hatch and Desmond, along with that creepy "orientation" film.  Locke seems to get a little more confusing and in some cases creepy every week.  Obviously has a few issues to deal with.  Curious to see what happens with the possible "others" or whoever it is who have Sawyer, Jin, and Michael.  And where the heck is Walt?  :)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Jeff on October 6, 2005, 11:13 AM
Possible Spoilers.... You've been warned.

yeah, almost like a "lord of the flies" thype of thing. 

The people from the tail section go "tribal" while the others maintain a sense of civility, should be interesting to see what happen when the two groups clash.

My wife and I are also on board with the "the people who have Jin/sawyer/mike are from the tail section".  I think the reason they are holding them captive is because they fear that jin/saywer/mike are "the others"

I guess we will wait and see...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on October 6, 2005, 11:14 AM
Oh, I stumbled across this site (http://www.lostlinks.net/) this morning, which has some miscellaneous links relating to Lost.  I haven't looked through everything there, but you can look through every page of the Green Lantern/The Flash "Faster Friends" comic book that Walt was looking at in Season 1.  If anyone is interested...

Also, this has probably been realized/said already...but I just saw this this morning and I don't know how I missed it.  The numbers:

4+8+15+16+23+42 add up to 108, the number of minutes they have until they have to "reboot" things in the hatch each time.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: jokabofe on October 7, 2005, 06:52 PM
Anybody else notice that at the end of the orientation movie it said "Copywrite 1980 Dharma Corporation"? I had to pause it on the TiVO to actually read the year, but I wonder if that has anything to do with anything?

I'm starting to believe that the "accident" with the plane wasn't an accident at all.

I hope they start moving ahead with the storyline now. It's pretty much been three episodes that could have been merged into about an episode and a half, in my opinion.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: jokabofe on October 7, 2005, 07:05 PM
Hmmm, I just read this on another site:

*** POSSIBLE SPOILERS ***




















































All of the Losties are part of the experiment. They were all born on the island, and every single flashback you see is an implanted memory. None of them have ever had a real life outside the experiment, and that is why they need the children, to continue the experiment. It is all fake! They thought of different ideas, such as: What if a man was a big loser in his real life, then gets to the island and is one of the most important people helping in survival and what not? Hence, Locke.

That sounds like it could be true... but I think if that was the case, I'd be a little pissed to find out that all those flashback were B.S.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Famine on October 12, 2005, 11:11 PM
That had to be my favorite episode to date. :)

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 13, 2005, 10:23 PM
I really liked last nights episode as well. Hurly is a great character and I think everyone who has a soul can relate to his issue, regardless if they won 156 million dollars.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Jeff on October 26, 2005, 04:00 PM
Coincidence or not?  A friend of mine thinks this has HUGE implications on the numbers.  I think he's crazy...

All of the numbers have been retired by the New York Yankees :

4 - Lou Gehrig
8 - Yogi Berra
15 - Thurman Munson
16 - Whitey Ford
23 - Don Mattingly
42 - Jackie Robinson

His crazy theory then goes that each number/player is represented by a character on the show.  It is important that the "number" aka characters stay together.  He's ever gone so far as to try to start matching them up:

Lou Gehrig = Locke (both were crippled unfairly)
Yogi Berra = Hurley (despite both being just role players, both are/were vital to the "team")
Don Mattingly = Jack (The Captain/Leader of the team)
Jackie Robinson = Michael or Walt (obvious reasons)

(he is still working out the other two)


So, think he's on to something or think he's crazy? 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on October 27, 2005, 09:12 AM
I actually read something about that yesterday too, can't remember where.  It might have been on USA Today's ongoing feature on LOST.  In fact, yeah, HERE (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-10-18-lost-clues_x.htm) that is.  They also mention that the numbers 3, 5, 37, and 44 (Ruth, DiMaggio, Stengel, Jackson) among others, aren't included...so maybe it means nothing.  If they are related, they must just arbitrarily be picking Yankee numbers.  You never know though, that would be quite a coincidence.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Mikey D on October 27, 2005, 10:01 AM
Of course the numbers match retired Yankees' numbers.  Is there a number that hasn't been retired by the Yankees?  That team retires numbers like I change my underwear.

Seriously, I don't know about this.  Based on the nature of the show, I think people are just looking for hints everywhere and trying to connect every little detail.

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2005, 11:47 AM
So what did everyone think of the new episode of LOST last night?  Pretty good one, with quite a bit going on.  Someone was "lost forever" as the ads suggested, although on some of the forums I've lookd around on, some fans aren't convinced that person is gone.  Also, TVGuide's Watercooler (http://www.tvguide.com/TV/Watercooler/) has a possibility of what Walt's message was again (played backwards).  I won't list any spoilers here just in case someone hasn't seen it yet, but a good episode overall.  Looks like next week's will show what has happened to the "tailies", and will be an extended episode.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: JayDouble on November 10, 2005, 12:10 PM
Last night episode was good.  I've been tempted and read some forums also.  I also can't wait for next weeks episode, I want to see just how bad the Others are.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 10, 2005, 01:07 PM
Glad the wait for a new episode is over!  Last night's episode was really good, and next week's looks awesome!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2005, 02:16 PM
EW.com (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1128177_3_0_,00.html) has an interesting write up on last night's LOST, including some "little things" that I didn't catch on the first viewing.  SPOILERS are of course present, but you can read it at the link above if interested.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Jeff on November 10, 2005, 02:24 PM
Man, this is a good show...  ;D

no spoilers for those who may have tivo'ed it, but WOW!

I can't wait for next week to see how the tail-section got so decimated by the Others.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 11, 2005, 11:05 AM
I'm looking forward to next weeks show, but I'm looking even more forward to getting back to the main story. They know just how to string you along
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 11, 2005, 08:28 PM
Heard the sound clip for Walt's line in the tent:

"They are coming, and they are close."
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Commander Cody on November 13, 2005, 12:58 AM
Maybe he was referring to the tail end survivors and not "the others".
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on November 16, 2005, 09:32 AM
TVGuide.com (http://www.tvguide.com/News/AskAusiello/) has a nice article up featuring a Q and A with LOST executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse.  Some nice information within, but lots of SPOILERS, so if you don't want to learn anything of the spoilery nature, stay away.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: name on November 16, 2005, 11:05 AM
Maybe he was referring to the tail end survivors and not "the others".

Now that's an interesting theory. . .
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 17, 2005, 10:07 AM
What, is this whole season going to take place over the course of a week?

Another great episode last night, BTW (tail section story.)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on November 17, 2005, 10:51 AM
I really enjoyed last night's episode too, it was nice seeing what has happened with the tailies since the crash.  Also, a few questions sort of answered, and of course, more are raised...as usual.  I can't get enough of this show.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Mikey D on January 11, 2006, 12:54 PM
Just a reminder that a new episode finally airs tonight at 9EST.  There's also a special on before (starts at 8PM) detailing what's happened so far on the island.


Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Tracy on January 11, 2006, 01:05 PM
Just a reminder that a new episode finally airs tonight at 9EST.  There's also a special on before (starts at 8) detailing what's happened so far on the island.

'Bout damn time.  Now if all of the cast members can stay out of jail, maybe we can get on with this. ::)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Deanpaul on January 11, 2006, 01:46 PM
Just a reminder that a new episode finally airs tonight at 9EST.  There's also a special on before (starts at 8PM) detailing what's happened so far on the island.




When I read the guide I thought tonights first episode was a rebroadcast of the "Other 48 Days" episode, but you're right it's an all new recap show of the season so far.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Jeff on January 11, 2006, 02:00 PM
When I read the guide I thought tonights first episode was a rebroadcast of the "Other 48 Days" episode, but you're right it's an all new recap show of the season so far.


That seems to be ABC's January modus operandi.  They did the same sort of "recap/highlight" show for Desperate Housewives and have a few more planned for other shows.

On one hand, it's kind of boring if you already know all this stuff, but on the other hand it is handy to remind you about things you'd forgotten about...  plus you never know if they'll give anything away - if it's important enough to make the show, it's probably important to the overall storyline.   ;)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 12, 2006, 10:02 AM
I just skip the recap shows.

I really liked last nights show. Mr. Echo is my favorate of the new characters and it actually tied a storyline completely up.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on January 12, 2006, 10:32 AM
SPOILERS
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I really enjoyed last night's episode, and learning more about Mr. Ecko.  Also, I saw this link (http://lost.cubit.net/investigations.php?PHPSESSID=df62a6ed54db66840fc726ee6f9a2bbc) today, which has screencaps of what was seen in "the monster" when it was facing off with Ecko.  You can see a number of images from his past, perhaps a clue to what this monster actually is.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 13, 2006, 02:30 PM
Great episode after too long a break of nothing new.  Looks like next week there will be a confrontation with "The Others"...pretty cool.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 20, 2006, 12:19 PM
That confrontation turned out to be pretty intersting. I love'd it because it was so calculated, it really put us in the middle of it all.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Commander Cody on January 20, 2006, 04:04 PM
Why didn't they ask any questions about the island, about how they got there, etc. This show is becoming more and more unbelievable this season.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Jeff on May 3, 2006, 10:04 PM
Re: Tonight's Ending.

 :o
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Tracy on May 3, 2006, 10:21 PM
I mean really!   :o :o
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: jadesfire on May 3, 2006, 10:39 PM
I'll third that response  :o :o :o

I didn't see that coming at all.  Holy crap!  I assume Michael had to find a way to release Henry in order for him to get Walt back.  I didn't care that much for Ana- Lucia but I am hoping Libby makes it. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Rob on May 3, 2006, 10:47 PM
I had just gotten done thinking to myself 'what if Michael was turned or brainwashed somehow and was now a mole of some kind' and then I thought that since they hadn't done any little editing tricks to suggest it (like showing him looking at something longer than he should have or asking prying questions) that it didn't seem to be the case.

2 minutes later he's shooting everyone in sight.

****.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on May 3, 2006, 11:00 PM
Did anyone catch that fake commercial? There was a commercial for the Hanso corporation during one of the commerical breaks. They even set up a website for Hanso http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: jokabofe on May 4, 2006, 12:18 AM
Did anyone catch that fake commercial? There was a commercial for the Hanso corporation during one of the commerical breaks. They even set up a website for Hanso http://www.thehansofoundation.org/



Yes, I thought I was the only one. And I have to say that this is one of those shows where I want to know what the hell is going on, but if they tell it all, it kinda defeats the fun of the show. What to do?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: efranks on May 4, 2006, 01:34 AM
Notice that they just killed off the two people that were recently arrested for DWI?  Hmmm....

Anyway, I was totally blown away by that whole twist at the end of the show.  As mentioned, nothing suggested that leading into tonight's show.

   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Rob on May 4, 2006, 01:51 AM
I did notice that... surely the episode was shot before the DUI right?   Up until that last moment I'd convinced myself that Anna Lucia and Jack and Jack's Father were going to be right at the heart of the whole thing....  oh well.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: JayDouble on May 4, 2006, 02:29 AM
I'm thinking Michael did that to get back Walt. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Tracy on May 4, 2006, 06:48 AM
I'm thinking Michael did that to get back Walt. 

Seems to make to the most sense right now.  I thought at first that Michael was brainwashed, or even with the "others" from the beginning.  I even thought he could possibly be the "boss" that Henry was talking about.  Then I thought about how much he was shaking and how nervous he was when he shot Libby.  He would have been much more confident and colder about it if he were brainwashed or in on it.  Although it still bugs me how he showed up.  What about Jack's theory that Michael heard him calling and simply followed his voice?  It seems odd that Michael was walking one second and then out so hard and so long the next.  Perhaps he was faking so he could gather info?

BTW -- I noticed the commercial too.  No way am I going to the website though.  Though frustrating, I choose to remain blissfully unaware of what's going to happen next.............
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: jokabofe on May 4, 2006, 09:11 AM
Actually, the website doesn't really tell you much of anything. It's set up just like a "real" corporate website, for this Hanso Foundation. I'm sure there are clues there, but I'll someone else find them all and then just read about it on another website and make my own conclusions from there  :P
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 4, 2006, 09:28 AM
I wasn't sure they would go in the direction of Michael being "converted," but it does make sence. Great ending last night.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on May 4, 2006, 10:27 AM
Quote
I had just gotten done thinking to myself 'what if Michael was turned or brainwashed somehow and was now a mole of some kind' and then I thought that since they hadn't done any little editing tricks to suggest it (like showing him looking at something longer than he should have or asking prying questions) that it didn't seem to be the case.

Yeah, I turned to my wife when they first brought Michael back to the hatch and said "what if they brainwashed him or something?" and also started to get the feeling that Ana Lucia was going to get shot when Michael was staring at the gun.  Still, a heck of an ending, and it left my wife and I looking at each other like "what?".  I agree, it looks like its going to be set up to look like Henry Gale shot them all and escaped.  I was wondering if Libby was actually gone or not too, since Hurley didn't seem to broken up in next week's preview.  We'll see I guess.  Great show, makes the week long wait tough though ;).

Also, here's a little Q and A with LOST's creators following last night's episode, courtesy of TVGuide.com (http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049&start=0).  It sounds like the DUI arrests had nothing to do with what happened to those characters last night, according to the creators anyways.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: efranks on May 4, 2006, 01:49 PM
I checked out the web site this morning but I missed the commercials during the show last night.  There are some interesting things on the site and it does some odd things when you do things like submit a name for the newsletter or send the ape a greeting.

One thing I noticed on the page with the executives is that one guy is named Thomas Werner Mittelwerk.  Mittelwerk sounded familiar so I Googled it and Mittlewerk was a huge underground German factory in WWII where they made the V2 rockets. 

So then I Googled Werner and found that a guy by the name Werner Heisenberg was the founder of quantum mechanics and worked for the Germans during WWII on nuclear fission.

Which all may mean nothing...or something.  But anyway you slice it, this is a damn good show and you really never know just what's going to happen next.

   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Rob on May 4, 2006, 02:48 PM
Which all may mean nothing...or something.  But anyway you slice it, this is a damn good show and you really never know just what's going to happen next.

I'm starting to wonder if the creators do either.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Tracy on May 4, 2006, 04:53 PM
Which all may mean nothing...or something.  But anyway you slice it, this is a damn good show and you really never know just what's going to happen next.

I'm starting to wonder if the creators do either.

They swear up and down that they've had it all planned out from the beginning.  We'll see..........  How long did/do they expect the show to be sucessful?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: efranks on May 5, 2006, 12:55 PM
They swear up and down that they've had it all planned out from the beginning.  We'll see..........  How long did/do they expect the show to be sucessful?

It's definitely a high concept TV show.  I read an article that said they had the overall idea of the island and what it is already planned.  The basic goings on from week to week, though, they're making up as they go to a certain extent.  The same article said something to the effect that things got put in the script that seemed like the next step. 

In other words, they're just making **** up as they go.  I can see this show being popular for another season easily but we need to start getting some answers to things instead of just more and more clues that don't add up.

   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Famine on May 5, 2006, 08:17 PM
Any one call the 1-877-HANSORG number? I just gave it a ring and played their little automated hell game, and got some interesting info.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Jeff on May 17, 2006, 04:03 PM
Looking forward to tonight's episode!

Last week with the Question and the Pearl was cool... I'm glad that Eko got a bit more time, he's definitely an interesting guy.

Makes me wonder if they will "find" a few other survivors on the island next season because they seem to be burning through the female cast members (Shannon, Anna, Libby).   :-\
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Tracy on May 17, 2006, 09:19 PM
As soon as the "Others" hit Michael in with the rock I thought -- he's setting everyone up.  I knew he was setting them up to get the guns and go after Walt.  But I bet Michael made a deal with the Others to bring all the guns in trade for Walt.........
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Famine on May 17, 2006, 10:10 PM
Woah. I can not wait till next week.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 18, 2006, 09:15 AM
Last night's episode could not have gone any quicker. Every moment was engaging and I just kept wanting more information. Can't wait for next week.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 18, 2006, 02:36 PM
Can anyone make out the password that Persephone gives you on the telephone?  I can't make it out to put it into the website.

*EDIT: Found it: breaking strain.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: JayDouble on May 25, 2006, 02:20 AM
 ???

Pretty much sums up my thoughts right now.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 25, 2006, 09:12 AM
What else would you expect? ;)

I loved it. Then again, I always love it when you can't wait until the next season to find out who lives, who dies etc...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: jedipurge on May 25, 2006, 03:22 PM
DAMN IT.  I work at night for the last month and have missed everything, i didn't even know last night was the season finale what the hell happened?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: JayDouble on May 25, 2006, 03:51 PM
DAMN IT.  I work at night for the last month and have missed everything, i didn't even know last night was the season finale what the hell happened?

You can watch the finale here: "Live Together, Die Alone" (http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Two
Post by: Brian on May 25, 2006, 04:11 PM
One heck of a finale last night, its going to be a long summer :).  I read some interesting tidbits/theories earlier today over at EOnline, I'll post things here if anyone is interested - SPOILERS present, particularly if you haven't seen the finale yet:

LOST Finale Redux (http://www.eonline.com/Insider/Boards/ann.jspa?annID=573)

LOST Possible Discovery (http://www.eonline.com/Insider/Boards/ann.jspa?annID=574)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on October 4, 2006, 11:12 AM
Well, the new season kicks off tonight.  From the early reviews at TVGuide.com, one of their writers is proclaiming it as "possibly the best episode since the pilot".  Definitely looking forward to it.  It sounds like we'll get a 6 episode "mini season", then a break until late Jan/early Feb to finish out the rest of the episodes non-stop.  No reruns this year.  Can't wait for the season premiere tonight.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 4, 2006, 04:32 PM
What in the hell could ABC have going on that they can only air 6 episodes of Lost?

Damn...where's the prozac?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on October 4, 2006, 05:03 PM
What in the hell could ABC have going on that they can only air 6 episodes of Lost?


It's not so much that there's other more important stuff to air than Lost, but it has more to do with the fact that last season they would show one new episode, followed by three repeats then air a new episode and then repeats again.  It ****** everyone up and people complained.  With so much going on with Lost, people started losing track on what the hell was going on with the ****** up schedule.  This way, their will be no repeats and Lost is still on for season sweeps in May.  It's kind of similar to 24, where they start the season in January and just blow through it until the end.  Keeps the excitement there.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JayDouble on October 5, 2006, 02:27 AM
After the first 5 minutes I felt the rest of the episode was blah. 

Maybe it's just setting up the story, but I want more answers not more questions.   ;D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: efranks on October 5, 2006, 02:52 AM
I was less than impressed with the episode.  I don't know what I expected but the season premiers for "Prison Break" and "Heroes" had me much more excited after seeing them.

The best part of the episode?  Kate.  God that girl is hot.

   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 5, 2006, 09:45 AM
I dug the season premier. I have a general gauging system for crap, if I fall asleep watching, it's crap. My Wife and I, at the last, minute decided to go see Paul Simon and set the VCR. We watched Lost afterwards when we were dead tired and were glued to every second.

Can't say I was impressed with heroes. The idea was right, but the structure of the premier was awful.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: jedi_riccan on October 5, 2006, 09:46 AM
I found that the beginnig of the show just raised more questions for me. I have been watching LOST since day 1, and now I am officially LOST, lol....
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Straxus on October 9, 2006, 10:25 AM
I enjoyed the season opener but didnt watch it over and over like I did the season 2 finale. (I think I watched it four times in a week trying to look for clues I might have overlooked.)
Though I did watch the part with the Oceanic Flight 815 breaking apart in the sky... the sound and image of it was very impressive.
Finaly...new episodes of LOST and BSG... life is good! The only thing that could make this better is if they resurrected "Dead Like Me", then I could watch new episode of my top three favorite TV shows of all time. Well 2 out of 3 is not bad.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on October 18, 2006, 10:21 PM
Some interesting developments tonight. :)

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 26, 2006, 01:11 AM
And again tonight!  Sucks that there are only two more new episodes until the show goes on Hiatus.

What's worse, "Grounhog Day:The Series" will be in its place.  >:(
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on October 26, 2006, 01:39 AM
I don't believe that other island hoo ha.

At all.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 2, 2006, 09:32 AM
Okay, I could see them killing off Lucia. Gabby was a bummer and a bit of a stretch, especially in the same episode. But Mr. Ecko? That's too far. He was too good of a character.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on November 2, 2006, 10:00 AM
Are there any tailies left?  I think just Bernard, Rose's husband, is the last from that Tail Section group, right?

Of course, I suppose some of the tailies that were "captured" could still be around, but I think 99% of the ones we met have been killed.



RIP Mr. Eko.   :'(

Man, that still ticks me off they decided to do that to him...  >:(
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on November 2, 2006, 10:35 AM
Mr. Eko was one of my favorite characters, I was really intrigued by his back story, but apparantely, it was the actor's decision (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-11-01-eko-lost_x.htm), not an original plot arc.  I thought all along that Mr. Eko was going to be the one to somehow lead them "out of" or "through" the island -- that he would somehow redeem himself for the lives he took.  I guess not. :-\
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on November 2, 2006, 10:49 AM
I was kind of disappointed to see Eko go as well, but as it was already mentioned, it sounds like it was the actor's decision.  According to TVGuide.com (http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049), he didn't want to commit to anything long-term, although there are also rumors that he was a pain to work with.  Who knows if its true.

Regardless, its sad to see the character go.  I think Bernard is the only tailie left, and I don't recall even seeing him yet this season.  I also wonder whatever happened to "Cindy", the dark haired woman who was originally with the tail group as they were making their way across the island last season (before Shannon was shot).  They were climbing up that ridge, and all of a sudden she just wasn't there anymore - and nothing more has been said about it.  Anyways, its sad that there's only one more new episode before the "winter hiatus" - and LOST is off the air until February.  Yikes.  And what in the world is up with the "smoke monster"?

EDIT:  Oh, and has anyone seen this? (http://hansoexposed.com/player/2b27f2b60c8b251b87d8c105026ad11c) Maybe it is old news, but I just saw it this morning.  Once the red box comes up on the screen, you can click "continue", then let all the fragments load and you can watch what looks like another Hanso video.  Stay tuned after the "video" is over though, as it continues.  Spoilers are present, I guess, but its more confusing than anything else (like the show).  It does give a little more information about the numbers though.  If anyone is interested.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: efranks on November 2, 2006, 03:25 PM
Besides Cindy there were 7 or 9 (I forget exactly) Tallies that were taken off the beach, including the children, before Ana and the others militarized themselves.  Where did all those people go?  We didn't see more evidence of them till Michael and Eko saw the childs feet walk by them in the jungle later, carrying a teddy bear.  Then, that was it.  Haven't heard about them since.

And I believe you're right saying Bernard is the last of the tallies.  At least the last one with the large group.  Everyone else that made it over to that side of the island is dead now.

   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 4, 2006, 04:40 PM
Something that you may find funny. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_zVROAdLU)

This season is going great so far!  Shame about Ecko leaving the show, but what a way to go out.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Straxus on November 5, 2006, 02:12 AM
Indeed. The security system is still so much of a mystery...who made it?!?!!
Due to the island being in the Pacific, I beleive that the island is probably Lemuria. Seeing the four toe statue's foot at end of season 2 just made me think that even more...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 9, 2006, 09:39 AM
Why do we have to wait until February for the rest of the season? They're pulling a Battlestar Galactica. :(

Good stuff last night, again. I love when you know things that some of your heroes don't know and how tragic it is when you know they're making a big mistake, but don't realized it.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on November 9, 2006, 10:52 AM
Why do we have to wait until February for the rest of the season? They're pulling a Battlestar Galactica. :(

Good stuff last night, again. I love when you know things that some of your heroes don't know and how tragic it is when you know they're making a big mistake, but don't realized it.

I agree, Anthony.  Which mistake are you talking about , Jack telling them to run (not knowing they're on a different island) or Jack not realizing he was "allowed" to see the Sawyer/Kate video?  Or one of the many other big mistakes people are making?

I'm really on the fence about season 3.  I've watched from the beginning, and I'm hanging in there, but this season lacks the revelations of season 2, like we saw in "The Other 48 Days".  They're taking too long to get anywhere and only offering small bits this season, and now is not the time to take a 12 or 16 or whatever week break.  I hope I still care in February, and no way in hell am I watching Daybreak to get tidbits about the next 16 episodes of Lost.  Dream on ABC, I hope Daybreak blows as bad as Invasion and the Nine.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 9, 2006, 07:04 PM
I like the Nine....it's not so bad.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on February 7, 2007, 02:23 PM
LOST is back tonight... and I don't know if I care.   :-\

I'm sure I'll watch tonight, but I found it was hard to stay interested in this show after not watching any LOST for these last few weeks.

I have to say that I actually missed there being no re-runs these last 2 months.  LOST re-runs were always fun for me to watch to see what you missed the first time through.  I know I could buy them on iTunes, but I'm too cheap to do that and too lazy to go looking for internet freebies.   :P

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what they come up with tonight to try to re-hook all their regulars.  I'm hoping for one or two big nuggets for sure, more than just trying to get off the little "Others" island...


Oh, and Deanpaul sent this to me so I thought I'd share - it looks like Lando Calrissian is joing LOST (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/lost/lost-spoilers-portland-and-bey-3598.aspx).   :D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on February 7, 2007, 02:36 PM
LOST is back tonight... and I don't know if I care.   :-\

I'm sure I'll watch tonight, but I found it was hard to stay interested in this show after not watching any LOST for these last few weeks.

I have to say that I actually missed there being no re-runs these last 2 months.  LOST re-runs were always fun for me to watch to see what you missed the first time through.  I know I could buy them on iTunes, but I'm too cheap to do that and too lazy to go looking for internet freebies.   :P

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what they come up with tonight to try to re-hook all their regulars.  I'm hoping for one or two big nuggets for sure, more than just trying to get off the little "Others" island...


Oh, and Deanpaul sent this to me so I thought I'd share - it looks like Lando Calrissian is joing LOST (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/lost/lost-spoilers-portland-and-bey-3598.aspx).   :D

I agree with you Jeff.  It's not very exciting to have a show fold up mid season and disappear for months, not weeks.  Add to that crappy terms like "Fall Season Finale" (that's what they called the last of the first six episodes) and I feel even more down about the show.

The writers have some ground to make up.  Reviewers who have previewed the next few episodes say they return to the character centric format vs. the Alcatraz format, and that we'll be shedding a lot of the ick that happened in the first six episodes of season 3.  It's still a great show, and I'm looking forward to them revealing more of what is going on so the characters will have something tangible to work against/towards.  Being on a messed up island is only interesting for so long, to me anyway.  I am looking forward to seeing Lando join the cast.  That alone will hold my interest for a few weeks.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on February 7, 2007, 02:53 PM
Yeah, that is pretty cool news with Lando joining the island - I look forward to that.  I'm kind of with you guys on the long break, it almost helped to forget about the show.  Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to it coming back, and I'll be watching tonight, but part of me missed the reruns too.  I guess a lot of the fanbase hated them though, so that's why they are gone.  To be honest, that's how I caught up on a lot of Season 1, by watching reruns (even some during the summer months).

I've also heard/read that the rest of this season will return to more of the quality of the first season episodes, and we'll get to see more of everyone else (not just Jack/Kate/Sawyer).  There was talk from the producers a few weeks back about setting an end point for the show, which I think might be a good idea.  If they know where they are going to end up, then they can get down to revealing a few things more timely - and build up to a big finale.  From what I've read, they originally thought of this as a "around 100 episodes" type of show, leading to speculation that it might be a five season show or so.  That might not be a bad idea.  Anyways, I hope we get back to the Season 1 craziness tonight, and I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on February 7, 2007, 04:12 PM
I'm glad it's back, but pissed they moved it to 10 EST.  Very rarely can I make it to 11:00.  I might have to look into a Tivo or DVR and get out of the Stone Age.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on February 7, 2007, 05:06 PM
I'm amped for the continuation of the series, and good on them for starting to pick something to work toward.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2007, 09:08 AM
So what did everyone think of last night's episode?  Maybe it was just the fact that it was a new episode actually airing, but I kind of liked it.  It seemed to have more of the feel that it used to.  I won't go into spoilers here just in case, but I did enjoy Sawyer's "wookiee" comment :).
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on February 8, 2007, 09:26 AM
I liked it.  The big "holy ****" moment was when Juliet's ex got hit by the bus.  Didn't see that coming.

Sawyer using Danny's head to push the button and then him getting zapped was pretty funny.

I also think Tom likes Jack...not that there's anything wrong with that.

Was it me, or did Juliet look much better on the island than in the "real world"?  She was cute in Miami, but beautiful on the island (I've had a slight crush on Elizabeth Mitchell since I've seen her in Frequency).

Overall, I'm glad Lost is back and look forward to seeing the rest of the regulars now that Kate and Sawyer are off "Alcatraz".

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 8, 2007, 09:37 AM
but I did enjoy Sawyer's "wookiee" comment :).

What was the line? "Fell for the old fake Wookie Prisoner trick?"
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2007, 09:54 AM
That's the one :).

Good episode overall last night.  While watching, I said to my wife right after Juliet made the comment about her ex getting hit by the bus that "I bet that's what will happen now".  Then when you could see the bus sitting down the street from them when she was telling him about her sister, it looks like things were maybe heading that way.  It is always such a jarring scene when that is used though.  Yikes.  I enjoyed Sawyer getting to kick the hell out of Danny for a bit though, I kept hoping that would happen.

I'm anxious to see Kate, Sawyer, and Karl get back to the rest of their crew now and (likely) try to rescue Jack, despite his warnings not to.  It sounds like we'll see more of what the rest of the island is up to next week, maybe we'll get some insight into Desmond and his "visions" now.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on February 8, 2007, 10:10 AM
"Don't get mad at me, just cause you were dumb enough to fall for the old wookie prisoner gag."
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 8, 2007, 10:13 AM
Thanks DeanPaul! Good memory.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on February 8, 2007, 10:34 AM
Thanks DeanPaul! Good memory.

No problem.  Our ReplayTV (similar to a tivo) is connected to my computer, so I can pull the file over to store it on an external hard drive.  Or just watch it again. ;)

I liked the "I'm Tom, by the way" line.  Classic.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: rdm5777 on February 8, 2007, 04:26 PM
While watching, I said to my wife right after Juliet made the comment about her ex getting hit by the bus that "I bet that's what will happen now".  Then when you could see the bus sitting down the street from them when she was telling him about her sister, it looks like things were maybe heading that way.  It is always such a jarring scene when that is used though.  Yikes.

I said the same thing...that whole "hit by a bus" thing was painfully obvious and the weak point of the episode for me.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: efranks on February 9, 2007, 03:19 AM
I fell asleep about halfway through.  Woke up, looked at the clock, saw Jack save Henri and Kate and Sawyer take off...  ho-hum, went to bed.

Still not impressed.  I want to like the show and still be interested in it, it's just not there anymore.  I'll give it 2 more weeks but if something doesn't snag my attention again I'll go back to watching CSI:NY.

   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: blimpyboy on February 14, 2007, 11:05 PM
Wow - all that just to find out Charlie's going to die?  That episode tied Further Instructions for most pointless episode this season.

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: efranks on February 15, 2007, 01:14 PM
Quote
'Lost' Producers Upset About Destroyed Footage


 The producers of hit TV drama Lost have been handed an expensive headache after film canisters featuring master footage was erased by an airport X-ray machine. The show bosses are still trying to figure out who to blame for the costly mistake, which could leave them having to spend an extra $300,000 to reshoot the scenes on the destroyed film. According to sources, film of the show accidentally went through an x-ray machine at Honolulu International Airport in Hawaii, where the series is shot - and was wiped. Lost producers claim security personnel at the airport are to blame because they didn't take note of warning labels asking them not to put the film canisters through an x-ray machine. But airport insiders state the film canisters were mistakenly mixed in with passenger luggage, leading to the error.

Word is that airline officials will tell the producers who erased the footage but that any such statement could be contradicted in next week's episode.

   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 16, 2007, 09:46 AM
Quote
'Lost' Producers Upset About Destroyed Footage


 The producers of hit TV drama Lost have been handed an expensive headache after film canisters featuring master footage was erased by an airport X-ray machine. The show bosses are still trying to figure out who to blame for the costly mistake, which could leave them having to spend an extra $300,000 to reshoot the scenes on the destroyed film. According to sources, film of the show accidentally went through an x-ray machine at Honolulu International Airport in Hawaii, where the series is shot - and was wiped. Lost producers claim security personnel at the airport are to blame because they didn't take note of warning labels asking them not to put the film canisters through an x-ray machine. But airport insiders state the film canisters were mistakenly mixed in with passenger luggage, leading to the error.

Word is that airline officials will tell the producers who erased the footage but that any such statement could be contradicted in next week's episode.

   E...

I'll tell you from experience (having to ship undeveloped film for many 'o productions) that there is no way these were put into luggage. Just doesn't happen. Shipping exposed Negative is a tried and true procedure that is full proof.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 16, 2007, 03:31 PM
LOST crashes and burns in ratings (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070215/ap_on_en_tv/tv_lost_ratings)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on February 22, 2007, 10:18 AM
I'm not sure what specifically is different about this season, but it is consistently not as interesting as last season.  Is it the lack of suspense in each episode?  They seem to be taking quite a bit longer to develop the story and each arc carries across several episodes vs. the character intensive episodes of the first and second season.  Is it because there isn't a lot of mystery as the creators try to unravel all the bits and pieces?

I'm lost.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on February 22, 2007, 11:00 AM
There is not enough button-pushing this season... :P

I think a lot of it is due to the lack of mystery - We know what happens if the button doesn't get pushed, we've seen who the others are and where they live, we got a good look at the monster, we know a lot more about each character, what's in the hatch, etc.

I think they are trying to manufacture a lot of new little mysteries, but they are not as gripping as the originals that sucked you into the show in the first place... 

Most of the questions I still have about the show are all things that are left from the first season, things like:
 - what the hell was with Walt's powers?
 - what was up with the freaky numbers being everywhere?

Unfortunately, I don't think the Walt thing will ever get explained as they just wrote him and the dad (Michael) out of the show and we're left thinking there was nothing more to Walt than a cheap plot device... :-\
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on February 22, 2007, 11:52 AM
That's pretty much it, Jeff.

All I've got to look forward to is Lando.  I'm thinking he lives on the same island as the castaways, now that we know the other island is just where they run projects.

Last night was episode 3x9, and Billy Dee Williams is rumored to be in 3x14.  That's going to be one looooooooong arc if it takes them that long to get to the Others "home" camp.  I hope I'm still watching.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on February 22, 2007, 01:14 PM
I've been reading up on a few LOST theories, and here are a couple I feel are worth considering:

"The ULTIMATE Lost Theory (http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3377)

The Seven Seals Theory (http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23991&start=0)

Discuss!

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 22, 2007, 05:16 PM
I think the first one was pretty good, but it gets shot to hell with the destruction of the hatch.

The second one is just all over the place...interesting though.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: efranks on March 1, 2007, 02:29 AM
Okay, now I liked last night's "Lost."  It's the first one since they came back from break that I liked and it's one of the few including the first 6 that didn't suck IMO.

Plus, Cheech!!!

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 1, 2007, 09:53 AM
Yeah, I really liked last nights episode. That's probably why this season has been lack luster so far, too much time spent away from characters we really like.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on March 1, 2007, 10:07 AM
I really enjoyed last night's episode as well, and the "feel good" part of it was welcome too.  Its better when we get a better idea what the majority of the island/cast is doing, not just 3 or 4 people.  Looking forward to next week's.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on March 1, 2007, 10:21 AM
Yeah, last night's episode was great.  I like Jack and Kate and all, but it was really nice to get away from focusing everything on them. 

It was nice to see Hugo/Charlie take on his "curse" and walk away from it.  I also liked the phrases Sawyer was teaching Jin.   :P

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Neal on March 1, 2007, 11:17 AM
Last night's episode was great because it was light-hearted and funny.  I enjoyed Hurley's flashbacks, but I really liked watching some of the main characters do something that didn't have a huge bearing on the overall story.  The last couple of minutes with Kate and Rousseau were more than enough to keep the plot going.  A lot of people will see this as a throw-away episode, but I thought that it was needed.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on March 1, 2007, 11:28 AM
Everyone liked this episode because there was button pushing in the preview for next weeks episode.  Finally, back to button pushing!

Now all we need is for the Cylons to come back.  :'(
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JayDouble on March 1, 2007, 01:53 PM
I really liked last night's episode.  The whole van thing once Sawyer came was hilarious. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on March 1, 2007, 04:27 PM
Last night's episode was great because it was light-hearted and funny.  I enjoyed Hurley's flashbacks, but I really liked watching some of the main characters do something that didn't have a huge bearing on the overall story.  The last couple of minutes with Kate and Rousseau were more than enough to keep the plot going.  A lot of people will see this as a throw-away episode, but I thought that it was needed.

I liked the show, but I tihnk it took entirely too long for anyone to mention the Alex & Danielle connection.  The writers left that sitting out there FOREVER and when they finally brought it up, I thought it was a little anticlimactic.  The guys being buddy scenese were great though - especially Sawyer teaching Jin everything he needs to know about communicating with women in English.   ;D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 2, 2007, 09:47 AM

I liked the show, but I tihnk it took entirely too long for anyone to mention the Alex & Danielle connection.  The writers left that sitting out there FOREVER and when they finally brought it up, I thought it was a little anticlimactic. 

Tottaly agree. A few episodes ago, I kept turning to my wife "Isn't Delenn's (Russo's Character on Baylon 5) daughter named Alex?" Thought I had a faulty memory since no one on the show brought it up.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on March 2, 2007, 11:11 AM
Last night was episode 3x9, and Billy Dee Williams is rumored to be in 3x14.  That's going to be one looooooooong arc if it takes them that long to get to the Others "home" camp. 

Yup.  It's looking as if it will be a looooooooong arc.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on March 7, 2007, 11:04 PM
Superb episode. I think that was the best one this season. I really liked the insight into Sieds character, and the Russian Eye-Patch man. That ending surprised the hell out of me.


Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on March 7, 2007, 11:44 PM
Superb episode. I think that was the best one this season. I really liked the insight into Sieds character, and the Russian Eye-Patch man. That ending surprised the hell out of me.

Kevin

Seriously?  I had just about the opposite reaction.  When they showed Locke playing with the computer and immediately showed the C4 in the hatch, it was obvious what was going to happen.  I just wasn't sure if anyone would be caught in the blast.  Patch guy was okay, but it sucks to not know what he is or is not telling the truth about.  When he said he was the last Dharma guy, I thought we'd come out with at least a few answers.   :P
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on March 8, 2007, 12:02 AM
I thought we'd come out with at least a few answers.   :P


In a way we did. We now know the computers aren't able to reach the mainland, and now we know the sonar is out. Seems like the only communication possible is through the "Others" or through the Radio Tower that we were told about.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on March 8, 2007, 11:01 AM
We now know the computers aren't able to reach the mainland, and now we know the sonar is out. Seems like the only communication possible is through the "Others" or through the Radio Tower that we were told about.

Kevin

This isn't anything new versus what we knew last week.  Patch is an "other," so if there's still a chance that Others in other areas can reach the mainland, then what's new?  :-\
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 30, 2007, 09:29 AM
I'm surprised there were no sooner comments about this past episode featuring the demise of Rocco and Nikki. For a stand-alone episode, it was freakin' outstanding.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on March 30, 2007, 10:28 AM
Pretty gory ending if you ask me.  I thought I remembered reading that before the demise of these two, viewers would view them as iconic characters that played a major role in the events on the island.  I see where they tried to force them into past scenes, and that was very well done, but I don't get how they added much to the story - at least not yet.  ;)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on March 30, 2007, 10:35 AM
I'm surprised there were no sooner comments about this past episode featuring the demise of Rocco and Nikki. For a stand-alone episode, it was freakin' outstanding.

Though entertaining, I thought it was a filler episode and a wasted opportunity to move the story/characters along.  The writers finally started getting back on track with compelling stories and drawing the viewer back in, then they throw this High School-level morality tale at us.  I don't know why, but it reminds me of "The Monkey's Paw"
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on March 30, 2007, 10:39 AM
I see where they tried to force them into past scenes, and that was very well done, but I don't get how they added much to the story - at least not yet.  ;)

I thought the big reveal there was that Paulo had found the entrance to and had been wandering around in the tunnels.  That was how he got the walkie-talkie, how he hid the diamonds in the Pearl station toilet, how he saw Ben and Juliet talking about Jack.  Now we know the tunnels are still there and there is an access point for the Losties...

On another note, I was disappointed that the whole "Billy Dee" on LOST appears to be nothing more than a 2 minute cameo.  Was that it?  Lame.    :-\
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on March 30, 2007, 10:53 AM
how he saw Ben and Libby talking about Jack. 

Ben and Juliet...

I enjoyed it, even though it was just a filler episode. 

Next week looks good with two hot chicks practically mud wrestling.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on March 30, 2007, 11:23 AM
how he saw Ben and Libby talking about Jack. 

Ben and Juliet...

D'oh!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on March 30, 2007, 12:37 PM
I enjoyed it enough, but wouldn't have minded seeing a little more of the rest of the cast.  That's how it goes with this show though.  It was interesting how they "inserted" them into past scenes, and it didn't look too bad.  I was also disappointed with how little Lando/Billy Dee was included in the episodes.  I was hoping he would be an "other" or something, as once rumored, and we'd see him more.  Of course, with how things tie into each other, that could always happen.  I'm wondering if we've seen the last of both of these two, with Locke's "nothing on this island stays buried" comment, as well as the scene early on during Nikki's television show and they talk about "bringing her back from the dead" for future episodes/seasons.  Those might be some hints, or maybe not.  I think I read that the actor that plays Paolo already has something lined up for next year, so maybe he's gone, but I haven't heard that about the girl.  We'll see I guess.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on March 30, 2007, 01:52 PM
Since Billy Dee was playing Billy Dee it would be very weird if he came back as an other.  Unless they reveal that his full name is Billy Dee Washington on the show, or something. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on March 30, 2007, 03:15 PM
Oh true, I didn't notice that.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on March 31, 2007, 05:41 PM
It was a filler episode unless the dog digs them back up. Next week looks like things will get back on track.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on April 5, 2007, 11:14 AM
Anyone else feel nothing was accomplished last night. I think that Juliett being left behind was so that she can infiltrate the Lost camp. Sayid is still my favorite character, he doesn't trust anyone, I love it.  ;D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2007, 12:06 PM
I thought it was awesome - and I'm thinking Sayid beats some information out of her next week. 

Maybe I'm the only one who's still hooked on this show - but the fact that Juliette didn't know what the cloud-monster thing was either makes me think once again that there is some group or force at work that is way worse than the others, something the others are terrified of. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on April 5, 2007, 12:51 PM
You're not the only one Rob.  The Mrs. and I are still hooked on things, particularly since the 2nd part of this season began in February.  I think overall the episodes have been very good since then, and captured the feeling of the first season very well.  Its always nice to get some more answers, and at the same time part of the appeal of this show to me in the first place is the whole cliffhanger/music crescendo at the end of the episode that makes me go "I can't wait until next week".  I'd like to learn more about that smoke monster though, that thing is freaky.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on April 5, 2007, 12:58 PM
the fact that Juliette didn't know what the cloud-monster thing was

Does she really not know what Smokey the Monster was or did she just say she didn't know?  The way she was standing there staring at it makes me think she knows more than she's letting on (just like all them dang Others).


Anyone else feel nothing was accomplished last night. I think that Juliett being left behind was so that she can infiltrate the Lost camp. Sayid is still my favorite character, he doesn't trust anyone, I love it.  ;D

I agree with you about Sayid, he's really grown into a great character.  And also about Juliette, lots of reasons to think the Others "left" her behind so she could infiltrate the losties camp and act as a spy - wouldn't be the first, or even the second, time they tried that.   ;)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on April 5, 2007, 01:01 PM
I'm still make it a point of watching every week.  I enjoy this show too much to not watch an episode. Sometimes I'll fall asleep (I really wish they'd move this back to 9pm EST), but that's usually because I'm exhausted by the time the show starts.

I enjoyed last night's episode.  Any episode where Smoky the smoke monster makes an appearance is gold in my book.  It also didn't hurt that the primary plot revolved around two hot chicks handcuffed to each other. :P

Next week, we should get some good answers.  Of course, we'll probably get more questions, but that's just the nature of the show.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on April 5, 2007, 01:04 PM
Does she really not know what Smokey the Monster was or did she just say she didn't know?  The way she was standing there staring at it makes me think she knows more than she's letting on (just like all them dang Others).


She knows of Smoky, but not necessarily what it is (just like the rest of us).  I agree though, she probably knows more than what's she's letting on.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on April 5, 2007, 02:16 PM
Anyone else feel nothing was accomplished last night. I think that Juliett being left behind was so that she can infiltrate the Lost camp. Sayid is still my favorite character, he doesn't trust anyone, I love it.  ;D

I felt the opposite - especially compared to last week's one-shot.  The others have moved on, Juliette is moving in with the losties, Locke left with the others and now knows what's going on, Kate found out that Jack saw her and Sawyer, they have a key to get past the "sonic wall," AND smokey returned!  I thought last night's show was terrific!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on April 5, 2007, 03:14 PM
Anyone else feel nothing was accomplished last night. I think that Juliett being left behind was so that she can infiltrate the Lost camp. Sayid is still my favorite character, he doesn't trust anyone, I love it.  ;D

I felt the opposite - especially compared to last week's one-shot.  The others have moved on, Juliette is moving in with the losties, Locke left with the others and now knows what's going on, Kate found out that Jack saw her and Sawyer, they have a key to get past the "sonic wall," AND smokey returned!  I thought last night's show was terrific!

Stuff was established, but i still don't think we leanred anything new. If anything we no whave more questions. Was Juliett left behind to infiltrate? Is she really exiled? She lied about not knowing about the smoke monster, does she really not know what it is? What does Locke now know? Where did the others move to? Who was the smoke monster after Kate or Juliett? So many more questions than answers, i am very hooked on the show.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt on April 5, 2007, 03:15 PM
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Senator Forms Subcommittee For The Watching Of Lost

WASHINGTON, DC—Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) announced the formation of a new Senate subcommittee for the Watching of Lost and appointed himself its chair Monday.

"This subcommittee's mission is to promote viewing and discussion of this riveting ABC series every Wednesday night at my house," said Nelson, who lives alone, adding that membership on the subcommittee is open to both parties, requires no seniority, and is "fun." "In addition, I have been able to secure funding for two large pizzas and one two-liter bottle of Pepsi, and have every confidence that I can acquire more."

Sen. Nelson has asked all attendees to arrive on time, do their best to remain quiet during the show's airing, and stick around to discuss the plot and backstory for "as long as you want afterward."
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on April 11, 2007, 11:42 PM
Holy moses!!  Now THAT was an episode.  Maybe the best of the series?

will discuss more after a spoiler buffer for our friends west of the mississippi.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2007, 01:54 AM
I missed last weeks episode, so I had no idea about John and the Others, but this week just scrambled my brain.

SPOILERS








(Spoiler buffer)










That bitch.












(Spoiler Buffer)












End spoiler.


Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on April 12, 2007, 09:24 AM
Yeah, a great episode last night I thought as well.  We got a little more information on Juliet, and got to see how things are lining up a little more as well.  My wife started saying through the episode "I kind of feel sorry for her now", and then at the end I said "how about now?" :).
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on April 12, 2007, 10:22 AM
Great episode last night and i totally called it. My friends were like that would be no point to infiltrate but i stood strong. I still can not tell why Jack is such an idiot or if he is in on it too. I cannot wait for nest week.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darby on April 12, 2007, 12:36 PM
Juliet is by far the most interesting character on the show nowadays, and last night was very good.  But yeah.  The end dashed a lot of sympathy you have for her.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 12, 2007, 12:42 PM
I'm curious about Sun.  She and Jiin could not get pregnant until they were on the island.  Will she also lose her baby and possibly her life?

Last night was a great episode.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on April 12, 2007, 01:25 PM
I'm curious about Sun.  She and Jiin could not get pregnant until they were on the island.  Will she also lose her baby and possibly her life?

Last night was a great episode.

I thought one of the flashback episodes implied that she got pregnant by her lover?  When Juliette was talking about how all of the pregnant women died, Kate looked over at Sun -- a little foreshadowing, I presume.    Last night was a great episode.  Perhaps Juliette is going to play both sides.  Somehow holding "hostage" whatever information Ben is hoping that she'll retrieve from the Losties -- in order to gain power over Ben?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 12, 2007, 04:28 PM
I can't remember everything in that episode Tracy, but if I remember correctly, they concluded that it she got pregnant on the island....I do not remember if it was Jiin or Sun that was supposed to be infertile.

I'm sure we will see it again at the beginning of an episode "Previously, on Lost" sort of thing.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on April 12, 2007, 05:02 PM
I can't remember everything in that episode Tracy, but if I remember correctly, they concluded that it she got pregnant on the island....I do not remember if it was Jiin or Sun that was supposed to be infertile.

I'm sure we will see it again at the beginning of an episode "Previously, on Lost" sort of thing.

I'm pretty sure it was Jiin that was infertile, thus leading us to believe that it was her lover that impregnated her.  But, possibly it was the island that "cured" him, just like it did Locke and the women who's name escapes me but who had cancer.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on April 12, 2007, 05:56 PM
I dont think they have officially said who the father is but one of the upcoming episodes is supposed to be focused on them so we may get the answer. I am really can't wait for a Ben flashback episode. That would be awesome.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on April 12, 2007, 06:55 PM
But, possibly it was the island that "cured" him, just like it did Locke and the women who's name escapes me but who had cancer.

Rose
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on April 12, 2007, 09:05 PM
But, possibly it was the island that "cured" him, just like it did Locke and the women who's name escapes me but who had cancer.

Rose

Thank you. :)  Thanks also for not commenting on how poorly constructed that sentence was. :-[
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on April 13, 2007, 01:06 PM
TV Guide (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Todays-News/Lost-Shocker-Time/800012791) is reporting that an upcoming episode of LOST (Episode 19) will be completely "flashback free" with the entire hour devoted to solving a mystery from season 1.  The schedule of "flashbacks" for the rest of the season is listed as well:

No. 17: Desmond
No. 18: Jin and Sun
No. 19: None
No. 20: Benjamin
No. 21: Charlie
Two-part season finale: Jack
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on April 13, 2007, 02:06 PM
No. 20: Benjamin

Awesome.  :)


I finally had time to watch the last episode (I was out on Wednesday night) - what a great episode!

I yelled at my TV, "I KNEW IT!" when they got to the end with Juliette and Ben.  I still think there is more going on there, but I knew she had to be there as a plant...  they did a nice job of building up sympathy for her so that they could tear it away again.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on April 13, 2007, 05:07 PM
I still think there is more going on there,

I think Juliet's playing both sides.  She wants off the island and if it entails double crossing Ben, then so be it.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on April 13, 2007, 06:27 PM
TV Guide (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Todays-News/Lost-Shocker-Time/800012791) is reporting that an upcoming episode of LOST (Episode 19) will be completely "flashback free" with the entire hour devoted to solving a mystery from season 1.  The schedule of "flashbacks" for the rest of the season is listed as well:

No. 17: Desmond
No. 19: None
No. 20: Benjamin
Two-part season finale: Jack


These are the episodes i am waiting for. The news about a season one mystery being solves is awesome as well. I am hoping it involves something about Jack's father. I am most excited about Ben's episode though.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on April 14, 2007, 03:26 AM
I still think there is more going on there,

I think Juliet's playing both sides.  She wants off the island and if it entails double crossing Ben, then so be it.

Yeah, that they confirmed our suspicions so easily seems like a near guarantee that she goes against Ben in the end.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on April 14, 2007, 10:09 AM
Anyone else thinking that Ben either didn't really have a tumor/cancer or that if he did, it was Juliet that put it there?  The island seems to be a cure all and she seemed a little eager to test the truth about the group being able to cure cancer. 

Nice to finally have a name for whomever is directing Ben (Jacob)...had we heard that before? 

Jack knows what has happened to all of the people that were taken away, right?  I don't get why no one is willing to give up new information to their supposed friends.

WTF is with them being able to bring Locke's dad to the island...!?  A box that gives you whatever you need?  I need a room like for building my Star Wars collection.  ;D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Straxus on April 14, 2007, 07:16 PM
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WTF is with them being able to bring Locke's dad to the island...!?  A box that gives you whatever you need?  I need a room like for building my Star Wars collection. 
I am not religious, but I still say AMEN to that!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on April 18, 2007, 09:14 AM
Some SPOILERS at TV Guide (http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx#01AA) today regarding what is on the way for the rest of the season.  LOST is mainly talked about in the first question of this Q and A.  Again, beware of spoilers.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on April 18, 2007, 01:45 PM
Some SPOILERS at TV Guide (http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx#01AA) today regarding what is on the way for the rest of the season.  LOST is mainly talked about in the first question of this Q and A.  Again, beware of spoilers.

Hmmn...thanks for the head's up.  I can hardly wait between episodes to see what this show is going to do next.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on April 18, 2007, 01:56 PM
Interesting news there. It makes you think on what will happen. I guess we will see what tonight brings.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on April 19, 2007, 12:37 PM
I thought last night was a really great episode.

SPOILERS
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It's always nice to see Desmond/Hugo/Charlie after getting so much Jack/Libby/Kate/James lately... sure they were in it last night, but it wasn't all about them as it is usually.

I really thought Des was going to let Charlie get "arrowed".  Surprised me that he had saved him (yet again) after all...  also the helicopter crash was cool too.

However, reading about the rumored five deaths in the last few episodes, I'm wondering if Desmond is going to make it out alive.  Seems fitting they'd try kill him now after everything that happened last night.  :(
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on April 19, 2007, 12:42 PM
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However, reading about the rumored five deaths in the last few episodes, I'm wondering if Desmond is going to make it out alive.  Seems fitting they'd try kill him now after everything that happened last night.

Its funny, I started thinking along the same lines after watching last night's episode.  I like the character of Desmond too, so I'm kind of hoping he stays around.  I enjoyed last night's episode as well.  I have to watch it again to double check, but I believe the picture on the monk's desk (that we see briefly) is of him and the lady from the store in Desmond's other flashback episode.  The one that knew all about his "destiny" or whatever.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on April 19, 2007, 01:26 PM
They can kill anyone (except the hot chicks) they want as long as we get more shots of Kate in her panties.  :D

Desmond is fast becoming one of my favorite characters on the show.  Hope they don't off him.

Loved Jin telling the ghost story and the fanboy discussion of who would win in a race - Flash or Supes.  Fitting, since Brian Vaughn (a big time comic book writer) wrote this episode.

I have to watch it again to double check, but I believe the picture on the monk's desk (that we see briefly) is of him and the lady from the store in Desmond's other flashback episode.  The one that knew all about his "destiny" or whatever.

It was her.  I didn't catch it while watching, but thought they lingered on the picture for too long and there must have been a reason.  Saw a few scene captures this morning and she was in the photo (a horrible photoshop job I might add).

Next few weeks should be intense.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on April 19, 2007, 02:00 PM

It's always nice to see Desmond/Hugo/Charlie after getting so much Jack/Libby/Kate/James lately...

That's the second time you've called Juliet Libby.  You know something no one else knows? Imagine that mindfuck if Juliet is Libby.  ;)

Libby does need to make an appearance again.  I felt her story was left hanging. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on April 19, 2007, 02:40 PM
That's the second time you've called Juliet Libby. 

I guess that shows you what I think of her character...  :-[

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on April 19, 2007, 10:24 PM
I am thinkthing that the person from the helicopter was supposed to be Penelope, but since Desmond didnt let charlie die, the story changed and the other chick was there. I know it s abit of a stretch, but anything can happen with lost.

Oh and yes they should have many many more scenes with Kate like last night's episode.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on April 21, 2007, 03:13 PM

Oh and yes they should have many many more scenes with Kate like last night's episode.

Agreed!  :-*

As for Penny, I don't think she's the type to jump in on her own.  She wasn't at the Artic monitoring station - she had cronies do that.  So it makes sense that she sent someone to look for Desmond vs. going herself.  I didn't see in the dream sequences - did Desmond actually 'see' Penny or just someone in a flight suit?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Straxus on April 21, 2007, 05:59 PM
I think the images only showed someone in a flight suit...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on April 21, 2007, 09:54 PM
I think the images only showed someone in a flight suit...


I skimmed over it again tonight and that's all I saw as well.  I think this was just wishful thinking on Dez's part.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on April 26, 2007, 08:08 AM
I pretty much had the same reaction Hurley had at the end, but added "the ****"?  My guess is Dharma, the Others or whoever is behind the weird and wacky **** on the island staged a fake crash site to keep outsiders from finding their island paradise. 

And how is Patchy still alive?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on April 26, 2007, 09:29 AM
I had the same reaction as you Mikey.  I also think it might be possible that Dharma or whoever made it look as if the plane crashed with no survivors - so no one would be looking for them, etc.  Definitely an interesting twist at the end there.  I have to say, I'm really enjoying this season of LOST, particularly since it "re-started" in February.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on April 26, 2007, 09:36 AM
Honestly that is like and end of season cliffhanger line. Great end to the episode. As if my interest and anticipation wasn't high enough. I so cannot wait for the next 3 episodes. Sadly, i now have no idea what the hell is going on.  ??? I remember in the first season i thought they were in purgatory then dropped that idea. Maybe that is coming back.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on April 26, 2007, 04:37 PM
I remember in the first season i thought they were in purgatory then dropped that idea. Maybe that is coming back.

I'm pretty sure the producers are on record as saying that's not the case. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on April 26, 2007, 04:51 PM

I'm pretty sure the producers are on record as saying that's not the case. 

Sure, but wouldn't you say that too if fanboys guessed the whole premise of the show within the first two weeks and stole your big reveal years before it was intended?  Throw out a little white lie and keep everyone guessing. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: blimpyboy on April 26, 2007, 07:24 PM
So here's the question I've been wondering: Ben seemed pretty damn sure in season 2 that "not even God could see the island," so why would they need to put out decoy plane wreckage if it's impossible to find the island anyway?  To save time and money for the people back in the real world?  Or maybe the island isn't as hidden as Ben thinks?

Although I usually agree that the simplest explanation is probably the best (i.e. that the others or Mittelos or Hanso faked the crash) I'm kind of wondering where they're going with this.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on April 27, 2007, 01:30 AM
I've a feeling that Hanso faked the crash.

I personally rule out purgatory due to the fact that people keep coming to the island, and it's not just the victims of flight 815 (Desmond, Helicopter Chick, Juliette, the Others) and the fact that all these medical miscarriages and miracles have been happening. Plus Dharma Initiative people seemed to have been coming and going to the mainland on a Submarine, and they did that Video thing for Juliette with her sister and the child in the park.

POSSIBLE SPOILER






Theory based on the commercial from next week: That's not Ben in the sack and chains. I think it's Johns father. It would only make sense that he'd want him dead, and he'd go to a criminal who's itching to strike out at Ben - Sawyer. Makes sense to me!





END POSSIBLE SPOILER





Can't wait!

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: David on April 29, 2007, 11:24 AM
Man this is a weird show. I love it!!!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 2, 2007, 08:52 AM
Tonight should be good. From my understanding it has on island flashbacks so we may get some answers tonight, although i am sure not many.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 2, 2007, 11:37 PM
Called it.

What an exciting episode, between seeing just where John went, to Ben and his twisted ways of dealing with things.

A note w/ possible spoilers:





SPOILERS?







The police detectives mentioned that Johns father disappeared off the face of the earth, so all that heaven/ hell talk, tacked on to the airplane and everyone being dead deal has me thinking they are just trying to mess with our heads.








SPOILERS?






What a great episode.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on May 3, 2007, 06:46 AM
Yes, it was a great episode.  The thing for me is that I lost respect for Locke -- having Sawyer do his dirty work for him.  When Ben said "Sorry folks, he's not who we thought he was" I expected Locke to say "Yes, you're right, I'm not a murderer".  I wonder now if the island will show him its secrets since he didn't follow the rules and had someone else do his dirty work?  Locke seemed very weak in this episode -- perhaps this was his test and he failed it?

*Possible spoiler*







Wasn't that Mr. Ecko we saw in the previews?











*End spoiler*
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on May 3, 2007, 10:39 AM
Okay, only problem I have with Hanso having faked the crash is that in flashbacks, we see the others watch the plane break apart.  That would mean that Hanso not only brainwashed the survivors of 815, but all the people already on the island as well. 

Here's a question - how in the heck did John's father get to the island?  Sounds like he was kidnapped and brought there vs. some mystery teleportation explanation, but if the others no longer have any communication with the outside world and the beacon is out and the sub is gone - how did they manage this?  Or did they bring John's dad before all of that happened?

Question #2: Why in the heck does John need to kill his dad to please the island?  I thought for sure that when he refused to kill, the others would say that he PASSED the test of not being corrupted or evil.  Whoever's running things has some very odd ideas about ethics. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 3, 2007, 11:06 AM
Okay, only problem I have with Hanso having faked the crash is that in flashbacks, we see the others watch the plane break apart.  That would mean that Hanso not only brainwashed the survivors of 815, but all the people already on the island as well. 

Here's a question - how in the heck did John's father get to the island?  Sounds like he was kidnapped and brought there vs. some mystery teleportation explanation, but if the others no longer have any communication with the outside world and the beacon is out and the sub is gone - how did they manage this?  Or did they bring John's dad before all of that happened?

Question #2: Why in the heck does John need to kill his dad to please the island?  I thought for sure that when he refused to kill, the others would say that he PASSED the test of not being corrupted or evil.  Whoever's running things has some very odd ideas about ethics. 

I don't understand what you mean about Hanso faking the crash? I think the type of fake people are talking about is a cover up crash, not the actual Island arival. I could be wrong.

With Johns dad, you know, it's a magic metaphorical box that brought him there, not by conventional means.

I'm fairly certain Ben is the actual ruler of the Island, like a president or something.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 3, 2007, 11:11 AM
It was a good episode, not exactly getting as many answers as i thought we may have. The preview for next week looks even better. Ben looks shocked when Locke drops his father's body in front of him.

I have really come to dislike Jack. He used to be the one i dentified with but he is just a complete jerk now even if he does have some kind of plan. Sawyer has grown as a character.

Sayid has very much become my favorite character, i hope they do not kill him off. Very close to Sayid is Desmond, another great character who i really believe is the central character in this all anyway.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on May 3, 2007, 11:13 AM
I don't understand what you mean about Hanso faking the crash? I think the type of fake people are talking about is a cover up crash, not the actual Island arival. I could be wrong.

Well, there are both possibilities for this one.  I don't get why Hanso would create a fake crash in the outside world either.  I hope the writers really think this one through - it seems odd that ALL the bodies were accounted for - I would think that a plan crash 4 miles deep would result in some bodies not being found.

With Johns dad, you know, it's a magic metaphorical box that brought him there, not by conventional means.
That still doesn't explain how Tom Sawyer got to the island...

I'm fairly certain Ben is the actual ruler of the Island, like a president or something.
I think he's managing the others, but someone else that we haven't met is truly in charge.  Remember when he was captured and he confessed that the others were serving a "A great man?"  I think of Ben as the plant manager, but there's definitely somebody else running the company.  ;)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on May 3, 2007, 11:16 AM
It was a good episode, not exactly getting as many answers as i thought we may have. The preview for next week looks even better. Ben looks shocked when Locke drops his father's body in front of him.

I have really come to dislike Jack. He used to be the one i dentified with but he is just a complete jerk now even if he does have some kind of plan. Sawyer has grown as a character.

Sayid has very much become my favorite character, i hope they do not kill him off. Very close to Sayid is Desmond, another great character who i really believe is the central character in this all anyway.

Agreed - I hate what they have done with Jack. I don't get the whole keeping secrets thing - how arrogant do you have to be to think you're the only one who can handle the information when all of your 'friends' are always cluing you in to what's going on.  Desmond is definitely my favorite at this point, though I was a little dissapointed that he was willing to let Charlie die a few episodes back.  Glad he came around - that would be hard to come back from. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 3, 2007, 11:20 AM
Has that woman who fell from the sky said how long it has been since the plane crashed and the wreckage was found?

I also feel a little put off by John about that whole thing, but it seems like he knows what he's doing.

I think Juliette is working hard to pit Jack against everyone else on the island, so when the warning comes, no one listens, and it goes without a hitch.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: David on May 4, 2007, 03:19 PM
I tivo-ed this, so I dont know about THAT episode, but as for anything locke may have done, he certainly wasnt locke-ish when he said bye to kate a few episodes ago. it was weird. ill probably watch this episode tonight.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 5, 2007, 07:59 PM
My guess is that the Others set up that fake flight 815 complete with bodies to keep people from searching any longer and accidentally finding the island.

Next couple of weeks should be pretty good.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 6, 2007, 08:48 AM
I rewatched the trailer for next week and it looks like we get a new training video!  ;D I love those.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: David on May 6, 2007, 12:56 PM
I saw this episode yesterday. My dad and I think they are in purgatory.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 6, 2007, 01:17 PM
That wouldn't explain how the others could go back to civilization.

It's something else.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 7, 2007, 09:06 AM
I think the producers (Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof) have pretty much confirmed that it isn't purgatory.  I think the stuff with Locke's dad this week (him thinking it was hell) was kind of a wink to that even.  Its definitely been a good season this year though, especially since they've come back from the "break".
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 7, 2007, 01:20 PM
Some news (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070507/tv_nm/lost_dc;_ylt=ArGDU5Ok3SKYfmoHD6qVWh7MWM0F) on the "final three seasons" of LOST.  Apparently the series will run for 48 more episodes, with each season being 16 uninterrupted episodes.  More at the linky.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 7, 2007, 02:49 PM
Nice to know that we will get ending. I would have hated if they took the show off the air without explaining it all.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 7, 2007, 04:01 PM
Yeah, I think that setting an "end point" for the series is a great idea.  It sounds like its something that the producers wanted to do, and had to talk ABC into it.  I think the fact that they know when they will end, it will allow them to build the story up even better in the remaining episodes.  They know when they have to have things resolved by, and that will help.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on May 7, 2007, 04:07 PM
Some news (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070507/tv_nm/lost_dc;_ylt=ArGDU5Ok3SKYfmoHD6qVWh7MWM0F) on the "final three seasons" of LOST. 

Very interesting... of course, it means after the end of the month, we'll have to wait until Jan-08 for new episodes.   :(

It is nice to know there will be an ending, one-way or the other....
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 7, 2007, 06:06 PM
I think that's a smart strategy for this show.  It reminds me of Babylon 5 which started out as being 5 seasons long, and being written to end after a five year run.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on May 7, 2007, 11:19 PM
Very interesting... of course, it means after the end of the month, we'll have to wait until Jan-08 for new episodes.   :(

Hmmn...Battlestar is gone until January too right?  Maybe I'll just stop watching TV until January...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 9, 2007, 11:06 PM
What the ****?

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on May 9, 2007, 11:19 PM
 :o

Next week's episode can't get here soon enough...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on May 9, 2007, 11:33 PM
i don't think i can say anything more than what's already been said.....
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on May 9, 2007, 11:38 PM
Tonight's episode was indescribable!  Can't wait for next week.  The WTF post says it all!  :o
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 10, 2007, 12:59 AM
What really sucks is, we won't be able to see the next episode until we retunr from our honeymoon on the 23rd.

Thank God for Tivo.   ;D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on May 10, 2007, 01:11 AM
Cool that the show is going to get to wrap up clean in a few years.  I wish there were more like 22 or 23 episodes per season, but oh well.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 10, 2007, 09:41 AM
We had the same reaction last night - "the hell?"  Definitely looking forward to next week's episode already.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 10, 2007, 11:12 AM
Being in the mental health field, i have to say Ben did a great job "appearing as if" he was delusional. The best part of all that is if you were attentive enough for a split second someone was sitting in the chair. My guess is that Jacob is Jack's father.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 10, 2007, 11:29 AM
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The best part of all that is if you were attentive enough for a split second someone was sitting in the chair.

See, now I thought I saw something/someone for a split second there too, and asked my wife if she noticed.  I'll have to rewatch it today and see if I can see it again.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Matt on May 10, 2007, 11:44 AM
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6142/lostjacoblz8.gif)

Credit some DVDTalk guy
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 10, 2007, 02:58 PM
Thats the picture, (http://www.gitsiegirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/lost%20jack%20dad%20in%20australia.jpg)

Look at the huge forehead and the possible bump in the nose. The hair is the same too, just longer. I am still betting it being Jack's Father.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: jadesfire on May 10, 2007, 05:54 PM
Now I would have never thought of Jack's father as Jacob but it would be a great twist :)

I did notice that there was someone IN the chair....then I wasn't sure so I am glad for the proof I wasn't seeing things.  What a great episode.  I can't believe I will be in LA for the final one  :'(.  I don't know if I will stay up to watch it (as I will still be on East Coast time) or just bag it and watch it when I get back.  Anyhow....good stuff!!
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: efranks on May 10, 2007, 10:49 PM
We spent about a half hour at work today comparing Locke and Shepherd photos to the clip that was posted!  I think it looks like Jack's father as well.  Very interesting.

   E...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 16, 2007, 10:31 AM
So everyone ready for tonight?  ;D It is a Charlie episode, my guess is that can only mean one thing for him.  :-X
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 16, 2007, 10:55 AM
I'm really looking forward to this week and next, and we should savor LOST while we can, since there's a wait until February for new episodes with the new format.  Also, I see there is a LOSt special on tomorrow night as well, called "The Answers" with the producers (Cuse and Lindelof).  I'm sure there will be no actual answers, but you never know.

A Charlie episode tonight, we'll see what that means from him.  Part of me is wondering if they will go another direction or not.  It just seems like there has been so much "you're gonna die Charlie" this season, that maybe they're planning for a switcharoo.  Of course, maybe that's not the case at all.  From what I've read, next week's finale has a "game changer" that will shock everyone and change the future of the show.  We'll see what that is.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 16, 2007, 11:23 AM
Also, I see there is a LOSt special on tomorrow night as well, called "The Answers"

Tonight tomorrow night, or tomorrow tomorrow night?

Sincerely,

Too Lazy To Check His Local Listings
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 16, 2007, 01:05 PM
Tomorrow (Thursday) night.  The regular episode tonight, then this "answers" special tomorrow (I'm not sure, but I think it airs at like 9:15 PM central time - I don't know if one of their other shows is long or what).  You might want to double check the time though.  Like I said, who knows how many "answers" there will be, or if it will be in the same vein as their previous "recap" type shows.  We'll see.  I wouldn't have really know it was on if it hadn't shown up on our DVR as a scheduled recording.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 16, 2007, 01:12 PM
I had not heard about the special, I will have to look into that. I know there is one next week.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Neal on May 16, 2007, 01:24 PM
From what I've read, next week's finale has a "game changer" that will shock everyone and change the future of the show.  We'll see what that is.

I already know what it is, and after reading it, I wish that I hadn't.
 :(
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 16, 2007, 02:26 PM
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I already know what it is, and after reading it, I wish that I hadn't.

I had read at TV Guide that we should avoid any spoilers about the finale, as it is better to see it unfold as it happens.  From what you are saying, it sounds like good advice.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Neal on May 16, 2007, 02:40 PM
Quote
I already know what it is, and after reading it, I wish that I hadn't.

I had read at TV Guide that we should avoid any spoilers about the finale, as it is better to see it unfold as it happens.  From what you are saying, it sounds like good advice.

Exactly.  I'm not disappointed by the revelation, though I do wish that I didn't know about it going into the episode.  It's going to be a bit anticlimactic now.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on May 17, 2007, 12:13 PM
AAAAAaaaaanyway....was one of the Looking Glass girls preggers in last night's episode?  I haven't had time to rewatch it...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on May 17, 2007, 12:43 PM
Ok... back on topic.

I watched the episode this AM and was a little confused... The Looking Glass thing did not play out like I thought it would.  I suppose there is still time for Desmond's latest flash to come true, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out next week. 

I wonder if they will have any juicy hints for us on next week's episode  in the "Answers" thingy tonight?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: David on May 17, 2007, 02:19 PM
I watched the Jacob episode on Tivo (finally) last night. I wonder if Locke is dead...? Jacob could be Jacks father, but thatd be VERY weird. Or he could be Satan and thats purgatory, that would be my dads thory which Im kinda starting to lean towards. Interesting episode, but I will miss the finale of Lost and Heroes (say it isnt so!!!) at the Grand Canyon and Las Vegas and the Hoover Dam next week. Oh well, at least Ive got tivo.  ;D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on May 17, 2007, 03:15 PM
We're missing a few posts ???. In response to Richard's deleted(?) post, I rewatched the end and it doesn't look like either of the women at the Looking Glass Station are preggers -- especially not with belted pants w/their shirts tucked in -- definately NOT comfy maternity attire.

My first thought when Charlie started yelling "I'm alive! I'm alive!" was "Of course you are, you dolt, you haven't flipped the switch on the flashing yellow light yet" ::)
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on May 17, 2007, 03:55 PM
A deleted post??  How strange....seems like that has happened to me before, but not here......must have been some other site....

I watched last night from the bedroom tv, which is wee...so maybe I wasn't seeing right on the chick that looked knocked up.  It was the second babe to run out.

My other question from that was were these the two "row 2 birds" that charlie woke up with in bed during the flashback about the ring?  THAT would be trippy.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Jeff on May 17, 2007, 04:30 PM
We're missing a few posts ???

Yes, a number of posts were removed since they were not about LOST, but rather some nasty PMs that were exchanged... something that should have been handled by sending a PM to a staff member rather than bitching about it in the forums.


My other question from that was were these the two "row 2 birds" that charlie woke up with in bed during the flashback about the ring?  THAT would be trippy.

I do not believe they were the same two girls...  The Looking Glass Girls -->  http://lost.cubit.net/forum/gallery/1_16_05_07_11_10_16.jpg
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: jadesfire on May 17, 2007, 05:06 PM
My first thought when Charlie started yelling "I'm alive! I'm alive!" was "Of course you are, you dolt, you haven't flipped the switch on the flashing yellow light yet" ::)

Thank you!!!!  That was EXACTLY my thoughts  :D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 17, 2007, 06:04 PM
I watched the Jacob episode on Tivo (finally) last night. I wonder if Locke is dead...?

Ok here is a theory my friends and i were discussing. Look back at where Locke was shot. He was shot on the left side near the kidney. He doesnt have a kidney there anymore becuase he gave it to his father. So the bullet probably didnt do any real damage. Pull the bullet out and let the island do the healing. Just a thought  ;D
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Neal on May 17, 2007, 06:33 PM
I watched the Jacob episode on Tivo (finally) last night. I wonder if Locke is dead...?

Ok here is a theory my friends and i were discussing. Look back at where Locke was shot. He was shot on the left side near the kidney. He doesnt have a kidney there anymore becuase he gave it to his father. So the bullet probably didnt do any real damage. Pull the bullet out and let the island do the healing. Just a thought  ;D

This wouldn't be the first place I've read that theory.  I think you're on to something.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 18, 2007, 09:49 AM
You know, I have to say that I think the show has gotten back on track since everybody got off of "the others" island with the cages. At least I'm really digging it again.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: john todd on May 18, 2007, 07:53 PM
Ok here is a theory my friends and i were discussing. Look back at where Locke was shot. He was shot on the left side near the kidney. He doesnt have a kidney there anymore becuase he gave it to his father. So the bullet probably didnt do any real damage. Pull the bullet out and let the island do the healing. Just a thought  ;D

i didn't notice all of those clues, but when they did not show locke actually die, i kinda figured he wasn't done.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 23, 2007, 11:19 PM
Alright, let me just say  :o I am not sure where they are going to go with this one.

I am guessing Ben in the Coffin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Neal on May 23, 2007, 11:24 PM
Damn, I wish that I didn't read the spoilers.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 23, 2007, 11:24 PM
Jesus Christ on a cracked that was one HELL of an episode!!! Even though I was spoiled I managed to enjoy it.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Darby on May 23, 2007, 11:31 PM
F**********************K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or, hmm. 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on May 23, 2007, 11:32 PM
Kick ass episode - so it wasn't a flashback eh?

I'm dying to know what, if anything, happened in between where they got the call through and when Jack met Kate at the airport.  Looks like season 4 is going to be a whole new deal.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 23, 2007, 11:46 PM
Casket guesses?

John?

Ben?

I don't think it was Sawyer, because I think he and Kate are together.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on May 24, 2007, 02:08 AM
I guess I was being dense - at the time I wasn't realizing it wasn't a flashback, and I thought he just wandered in depressed and it wasn't anyone he knew in the casket.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 24, 2007, 09:27 AM
Wow, great finale.  I was enjoying every second of it, and then at the same time realizing "we have to wait until February to find out what's next". :)  The flash forward concept was definitely interesting, and I have to admit I didn't have a clue until the car pulled up and it wasn't Jack's ex that got out.  Then I started saying that to my wife.  Also, the fact that in this "flash forward" Jack's dad is apparently still alive is interesting as well.  This really does change the show completely, and I can't wait to see what will happen next season - its going to be a long wait.  I am curious who is in the casket.  My first thoughts, at Kate's reaction, was either Ben or Sawyer - with Ben being more likely.  But, I read a post at the GH forums (from SPAWN forums) (http://www.galactichunter.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=TOR&Number=172079&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=12&vc=1) detailing who was apparently listed on that newspaper clipping (apparently you could see it in HD):
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I found this on the lost easter eggs comments by a guy named Nick for the newspaper clipping:


"The name in the HD screen caps is clearly Jeremy Bentham. Here is some info about this European philosopher... very interesting indeed!

Who he was...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bentham


The Prision he designed, which was made to be able to observe all prisoners without the prisoners knowing they were being watched to create a power of mind over mind...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

And lastly the socail power club he belonged to called the Jacobin Club (JACOB)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobin_Club


Now who is this guy? I'm gonna guess it's Locke (an alias from one European philosopher to another) or the guy who made it possible for all the whispers to exist(Read the prison part and you'll understand what that even means).
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: JediJman on May 24, 2007, 09:34 AM
Alright, let me just say  :o I am not sure where they are going to go with this one.

I am guessing Ben in the Coffin

I think its Locke.  I don't think anyone really likes him at this point.  Ben is a solid guess as well, though I'm not sure why either of them would voluntarily leave the island. 

I thought most of the finale was okay, but the whole Jack of the future thing bothers me the more I think about it.  Its depressing to see how he ends up - I hope we don't go through the next three seasons knowing that this is his future.  I'm hoping that the Jack Flash-forwards were one of Desmond's visions.

And what the heck was up with Charlie dying?!  He so easily could have made it through that door and closed it fromthe other side...or gone out the porthole...or just let the base fill with water - would have taken several minutes, which would give him and Desmond time to get a diving tank and swim to the surface.  Heck, do they even need a diving tank?  They should be able to rise faster than sink and they can use the cable to move faster. 

Best thing about last night is that we don't have to wait until next season to see that Kwan, Sayid, and (?) Rose's husband are okay.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on May 24, 2007, 10:14 AM
I don't think Charlie went out the door because he knew Desmond would go IN to talk to Penelope and die.  I think the idea was that he did it to save him.

Why he didn't swim out the porthole, or at least try is beyond me.  I think the set designers probably should have made it a little smaller to avoid the question.


As for Jack of the Future - I thought it was Jack of the present.  He's down and out, realizes he shouldn't have left the island, and is going to start off season 4 trying to find his way back.

But who knows.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Brian on May 24, 2007, 10:31 AM
Yeah, that's one question we were asking last night - why didn't Charlie just swim out the porthole, or even, just shut the door behind him and then have Desmond and himself swim like hell for the surface.  I'll definitely miss him on the show, but I can kind of see why they did it I guess.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 24, 2007, 10:37 AM
If its Jack of the future it kind of ruin's the show becuase now we know they got off the island, at least Jack and Kate anyway. If all the future episodes feature flash forwards then i dont see it working. I may be wrong for now, but i really was not crazy with seeing them off the island.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Neal on May 24, 2007, 01:48 PM
  Also, the fact that in this "flash forward" Jack's dad is apparently still alive is interesting as well. 

I don't think that his father is meant to be alive.  I think it's just part of his "sickness" that he thinks he's still around.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 24, 2007, 03:01 PM
Any catch Mikail say, "I thought you were on assignment in Canada" to the chicks in the Looking Glass

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on May 24, 2007, 03:48 PM
And what the heck was up with Charlie dying?!  He so easily could have made it through that door and closed it fromthe other side...or gone out the porthole...or just let the base fill with water - would have taken several minutes, which would give him and Desmond time to get a diving tank and swim to the surface.  Heck, do they even need a diving tank?  They should be able to rise faster than sink and they can use the cable to move faster. 

I don't think Charlie went out the door because he knew Desmond would go IN to talk to Penelope and die.  I think the idea was that he did it to save him.

Why he didn't swim out the porthole, or at least try is beyond me.  I think the set designers probably should have made it a little smaller to avoid the question.

I would think the reason why Charlie didn't bother to try and save himself was in order to save Claire and baby Aaron.  He needed to fulfill his "destiny" per se and follow Desmond's vision to the end so that everyone could get rescued.

 
Casket guesses?

John?

Ben?

I don't think it was Sawyer, because I think he and Kate are together.

Kevin

I'm thinking Mascara Guy?  Whoever has the power to get Jack back onto the island.  At first I thought it would have to be Ben, and that would explain why no one came to the funeral -- he knew no one.  But Mascara Guy hasn't aged so everyone he wouldn't known is probably long dead.  I'm thinking the reason it shook Jack up so much that he wanted to kill himself was that he felt like it was his only opportunity to get back to the island.

No way -- I don't think Kate is with Sawyer -- she was way too well turned out for that -- and too worried that "HE" would wonder where she was.  She's with someone important  --  Ben/Locke/Jacob/Penny's Father/Mascara Guy (if he's not dead).

How great was it to see Walt?  He went through such a growth spurt I kept trying to figure out if it was really him or not.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on May 24, 2007, 03:49 PM
  Also, the fact that in this "flash forward" Jack's dad is apparently still alive is interesting as well. 

I don't think that his father is meant to be alive.  I think it's just part of his "sickness" that he thinks he's still around.

agreed.  the look on the chief of surgery's face when Jack said "bring my father down here" was one of pity...
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on May 24, 2007, 04:09 PM
Any catch Mikail say, "I thought you were on assignment in Canada" to the chicks in the Looking Glass



Yeah?  What of it?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on May 24, 2007, 04:41 PM
Fun little review from EW.com:

"Of course, Jack's ''blow 'em all to hell'' gambit to avert the Others' Passover-style abduction plot didn't go off exactly as planned: the sharpshooters succeeded in detonating only two explosions instead of three, killing some but not all of Tom's posse. When the castaways realized something had gone wrong at the beach, Kate wanted to go back, and wanted Sawyer to go with her. The shaggy con man — sleepwalking through life since killing Anthony Cooper in ''The Brig'' — seemed not to care. But like the latter-day Han Solo that he is, Sawyer roused himself to reluctant valor, though he refused to take his Princess Leia with him. Jack later had to spell it out for her: ''He only wanted to protect you.'' Then, the whopper: ''I love you,'' the doc told Kate. Though she didn't say it, Kate's eyes finished the implied Empire Strikes Back homage: I know, they said. It hit me like Cupid's arrow: All these weeks of Jack cozying up to Juliet may have been a ruse, perhaps an attempt to draw info out of the former Other. Clearly, next season will focus on the Jack-Kate-Juliet-Sawyer quadrangle."

The full review can be found here (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20040061,00.html).

Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 24, 2007, 07:19 PM
Any catch Mikail say, "I thought you were on assignment in Canada" to the chicks in the Looking Glass



Yeah?  What of it?

I wonder if its going to mean anything. If they have other locations they control all over the world / hatches. It could mean nothing.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Rob on May 24, 2007, 07:40 PM
I didn't think much of it - it went in one ear and out the other as a simple explanation for why no one knew they were there.

I guess it could be more, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on May 25, 2007, 01:37 PM
I had another thought about who could be in the casket -- Juliette?!?  I would explain why no one was at the funeral and why Kate had such disdain in her voice when Jack asked her if she went to the funeral.  Though it wouldn't explain why Jack was SO upset about her death -- unless she somehow held a key to him returning to the Island :-\?
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Mikey D on May 25, 2007, 03:15 PM
I had another thought about who could be in the casket -- Juliette?!? 

I don't think so.  The funeral director asked Jack if he was friend or family and Jack said "neither".  From what we've seen, I think Jack would consider Juliette a friend.

The most likely guess is Ben, but that seems too obvious.  It could be someone we haven't seen yet.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 25, 2007, 04:57 PM
Does Mascara guy have a full name?

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on May 25, 2007, 05:02 PM
ricardo sexypants
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 25, 2007, 05:19 PM
SPOILER WARNINGS!!! :-X >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on May 25, 2007, 05:53 PM
SPOILER WARNINGS!!! :-X >:(

Kevin

Wha??? Where??? ??? ???
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on May 25, 2007, 05:56 PM
I had another thought about who could be in the casket -- Juliette?!? 

I don't think so.  The funeral director asked Jack if he was friend or family and Jack said "neither".  From what we've seen, I think Jack would consider Juliette a friend.

The most likely guess is Ben, but that seems too obvious.  It could be someone we haven't seen yet.

Maybe, maybe not.  Jack may have been playing Juliette to get info from her about the others.  He seems to be much more ruthless than I originally thought he was.  He might not really consider her a "friend". 
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Famine on May 25, 2007, 05:58 PM
There's a name on the newspaper, so I presume that is who was in the coffin.

It's a mans name, so I doubt it's Juliet.

Kevin
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: evenflow on May 25, 2007, 06:08 PM
Eye liner guy is Richard Alport.

I was relooking at a still of the coffin scene. The coffin looks to be child size.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Tracy on May 25, 2007, 06:12 PM
Eye liner guy is Richard Alport.

I was relooking at a still of the coffin scene. The coffin looks to be child size.

My husband and I were discussing that too - it looked kinda small to us too --not quite child sized.  God -- could it be Walt??  Though it wouldn't explain why Kate was so repulsed by the idea of going to the funeral.  Unless she's just disdainful of having anything to do with any of the Losties.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: name on May 25, 2007, 06:50 PM
Unless she's just disdainful of having anything to do with any of the Losties.

Our unless there's more Walt tale to be told....

I thought the coffin looked short too.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: Deanpaul on May 26, 2007, 04:42 PM
Unless she's just disdainful of having anything to do with any of the Losties.

Our unless there's more Walt tale to be told....

I thought the coffin looked short too.

Maybe it's Gary Coleman?  He's short, and Kate might find him repulsive.
Title: Re: 'Lost' - Season Three
Post by: David on May 29, 2007, 07:32 PM
Wow, I finally saw the finale. I think it was Ben or Locke because neither of them would have friends or family at the funeral. And when Kate left saying, 'He'll be wondering where I am' I think 'he' is Sawyer, her future husband.

The part I will remember all summer is not the coffin, but Mikhail. WTF is up with him!!??!! Hes died twice. I find this guy very scary.
Maybe hes the devil?  ::)
Title: Lost Season IV
Post by: evenflow on January 30, 2008, 09:02 PM
I am so pumped for this. Watching the pop up video version of last years final right now.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on January 30, 2008, 11:36 PM
ONE MORE DAY!

That pop up thing was annoying at first, but very insightful towards the end of the show.  A lot of others were wiped out last season, so will be good to see who the new baddies are.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on January 31, 2008, 10:20 AM
I think those "fast forwards" are not really fast forwards from the show's current reality. Remember in the current reality, Jack's dad is dead yet in the "fast forward" he refers to him as being alive. Therefore it could be anyone in that coffin because we havn't been watching those scenes from that alternate reality. ....or have we?  ???

Also, why is Walt two years older when Lock sees him at the end of the show? (beyond the fact that the actor grew older) If the visions of dead people everyone sees on the island is just the smoke monster morphing into them, why did it not choose the age of Walt when he left the island? If visions of people everyone sees are only of dead people, does that mean Walt is dead too?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on January 31, 2008, 10:30 AM
I think those "fast forwards" are not really fast forwards from the show's current reality. Remember in the current reality, Jack's dad is dead yet in the "fast forward" he refers to him as being alive. Therefore it could be anyone in that coffin because we havn't been watching those scenes from that alternate reality. ....or have we?  ???


Are you referring to the part when Jack is at the hospital and is confronted by the new Chief of Staff and says "Get my father down here, and if I am drunker than he is..........." or something like that?  I just assumed that what the booze and drugs talking -- especially from the pitying looks that everyone else was giving him.  I still thought his father was dead, and Jack was the one who who was confused about his reality. ???
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on January 31, 2008, 10:39 AM
I think the pitty look is for his drunken state not because Jack thinks his father is still alive when he really isn't. If Jack thinks his father is still alive when he isn't, that would tell the Chief of staff that Jack is mentally unstable. If you are mearly drunk, you typically don't think dead people are still alive.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: bamaker on January 31, 2008, 02:15 PM
Okay, here's my take on "Who's in the coffin?" and "Why is Kate so repulsed by the thought of attending said person's funeral?" ...and most of this is based on an off-the-cuff comment my wife made the other day while we watched the Season 3 DVDs (and please tolerate the first observation that may seem racist, it is simply an observation based on the limited clues available in the funeral-home scene).   The funeral home appears to be in a black neighborhood, as indicated by several black men seen standing on the corner when Jack pulls up in front of the funeral home.  You don't see black men casually hanging out in Asian, Hispanic, or Caucasian neighborhoods (especially in a TV production, plus I believe the writers, directors, creators jammed that scene with all sorts of clues that will only become apparent as the series winds down).  So that puts suspicion strongly on Walt or Michael.  The coffin appears too small to be a full grown adult, so that means it has to be Walt.

Now why would Kate be disgusted by the idea of going to Walt's funeral.  Well, I really suspect that Walt has been influencing the events on the island since the very beginning, if he didn't in fact create the whole "island" himself (with powers similar to Franklin Richards from the Fantastic Four).  He reads a comic book about polar bears and *bam* there's a polar bear on the island.  Locke appears to have a connection with the island, and the first person he befriends is Walt.  Walt appears to have issues with his father, and it appears that everyone of our Losties on the island are working out father issues (as shown in the flashbacks ... only Charlie appears to be the exception to this).  Michael and Walt leave the island, but Walt re-appears to Locke and tells him he still has work to do.  Finally, ... Season 4 spoiler coming up




Michael is coming back to the island, so maybe Walt sends him back (pure speculation on my part at this point)



Ultimately, the Losties figure out all their troubles are because of Walt, that Walt sent them to the island, and many of them hate Walt because of it.  But not Jack; he wants to go back, and when he sees that the only one who could send him back is dead, Jack becomes suicidal.  Plus, it may also be the reason why the Others are interested in children ... maybe there is some legend about how a "child shall lead them" -- hence the interest in the young Ben Linus who showed a connection to the island, and now that he's no longer a child, the others are looking for the next child that will have that connection, and they just start grabbing all the kids they can, or start trying to reproduce their own (but can't).

(Granted, I still don't know what the hell the Monster is, or who was sitting in Jacob's chair?)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 31, 2008, 05:47 PM
I hope the writer's guid strike ends soon so we can get the second half of the seson.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on January 31, 2008, 08:35 PM
Good theory except for the fact that the Darma Init had polar bear cages long before Walt showed up on the island. I think old smokiee feeds off the subconscieness of the castaways and can morph into things that it finds there. Walt is the special one that can control old smokiee. Basically, the island reminds me of that away planet from the classic Star Trek where the crew starts to see things from their own imagination. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 1, 2008, 09:14 AM
I hope the writer's guid strike ends soon so we can get the second half of the seson.

The strike might end soon, but we won't see the second half this season unless they extend the season into the summer.

Not disappointed with the premier at all.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 1, 2008, 09:27 AM
I thought the season opener was great last night.  I'm definitely enjoying the "flash forward" aspect that was introduced in last season's finale, and it raises a lot more questions.  Also, maybe others have seen this before, but I hadn't - its a mobisode featuring Vincent (and a couple other characters that I won't mention just in case of spoilers) - you can view it HERE (http://lostmobisodes.blogspot.com/2008/01/missing-piece-13-so-it-begins.html).  Its called "So It Begins".  I'm not sure when it was released or anything, because like I mentioned, I just saw it this morning (on the GH forums), but it is "official".
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on February 1, 2008, 10:58 AM
Plenty of great screencaps from last night's episode:

http://www.losteastereggs.blogspot.com/ (http://www.losteastereggs.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 1, 2008, 12:17 PM
Last night's opener was good - just wish so much of it wasn't recap, as I've laredy been watching S3 on DVD.  Where did they all meet up towards the end of the show?  Was that the front section of the plane where Kate, Charlie, and Jack watched the pilot get killed early in S1? 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 1, 2008, 12:34 PM
  Was that the front section of the plane where Kate, Charlie, and Jack watched the pilot get killed early in S1? 

Yep.

I enjoyed last night's episode.  Not as many "Holy ****" moments as the season 3 opener, but still good.  It'll be interesting to see where all the flash forwards happen time wise and how they all fit together.  For instance last night's FF happened before season 3's finale chronologically.  That means we get to see Jack completely lose it.  Something happens that makes him want to go back to the island, where last night he mentioned he never wants to go back.

It just sucks that we only get 8 episodes this season and will most likely have to wait almost a year for any new episodes.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 1, 2008, 05:38 PM
Great episode, kinda weird with the flash forwards.  Apparently only 6 people leave the island...and someone is looking for everyone else.  Plenty of questions that most likely won't be answered.  :D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 1, 2008, 09:50 PM
Maybe Sylar thinks the Oceanic 6 are a group of super heros and is hunting them down one by one. That is why Jack wants to get back to his island batcave.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 2, 2008, 08:57 AM
So i am totally going to once again push my theory that Jacob is Christian. If you watch that scene where Hurley is near the cabin in slow motion you can see Christian sitting int he chair.


EDIT!!!!

 :o :o :o :o

Brian thanks for the clip!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on February 7, 2008, 10:02 PM
At the end of tonight's episode, when Ben said "Because I have a man on that boat" my first thought was that it was Michael. 

This show has sucked me right back in again -- I hope this season can keep up this level of intrigue. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 7, 2008, 10:33 PM
Anyone else notice "Takes helmet off", "I'm Daniel Faraday, I'm here to rescue you"
                         
"Takes helmet off", I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you" reference?

Cool episode. I think they want revenge on Ben becuase of the Purge.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2008, 09:19 AM
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At the end of tonight's episode, when Ben said "Because I have a man on that boat" my first thought was that it was Michael.

That's kind of what I was thinking as well.  Another good episode last night I thought.  It always leaves me counting the days until the next episode, and really is one of the most well-made shows on TV I think.  Nice SW reference (again) on there.  I remember last week when they had the "enhanced" version of last year's season finale, the "pop up info" revealed that Hurley using the VW van to save everyone "back at the camp" was a reference to the Falcon coming in to save the day as well.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on February 8, 2008, 12:20 PM
Nice SW reference (again) on there.  I remember last week when they had the "enhanced" version of last year's season finale, the "pop up info" revealed that Hurley using the VW van to save everyone "back at the camp" was a reference to the Falcon coming in to save the day as well.

Don't forget the more obvious reference last night, when Sawyer referred to Ben as "Yoda". ;)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on February 11, 2008, 03:32 AM
What about the references to C.S.Lewis? I was talking to my sister on Friday, and I said this is starting to remind me of "Chronicles of Nanria."  Sure, enough I was reading a lost blog, and someone pointed out that at the end when Ben calls out Charlotte her initials are C.S.L. You might be interested in knowing that the first chapter in C.S.Lewis "Prince Caspin" is entitled "Island" ???? I made the connection about in the Chronicles of Narnia the characters have the ability to go back and fourth from the normal world into some mysterious world. IF you followed LOST you would have noticed the references to "Alice In Wounderland"" and "Wizzard
 of OZ" which also follow the same theme as the "Chronicles of Narnia.


Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 11, 2008, 09:15 AM
The last new episode was one of the best yet. When the two factions split the "rescuers," that took things to a new level for me.

And yeah, Michael being the man on the boat makes perfect sense. Nice deduction Tracy.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 11, 2008, 10:40 PM
Anyone else notice "Takes helmet off", "I'm Daniel Faraday, I'm here to rescue you"
                         
"Takes helmet off", I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you" reference?

Cool episode. I think they want revenge on Ben becuase of the Purge.

I totally caught that - I love it when they hide references like this in the dialogue!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 22, 2008, 09:48 AM
Another good episodes last night I thought, with some interesting revelations.  I was proud of myself that I called the ending "twist" the first time you see Kate mention her son (which is likely the "he" she had to get back to in Jack's flash-forward in last season's finale).  The stuff going on with Miles and Ben is interesting as well, and the story/lie that apparently the Oceanic 6 has been sticking to since their return.  Lots of good stuff.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 22, 2008, 11:16 AM
I called the "twist" at the end too, I thought it was pretty obvious. I think the bigger question is if they are lying that 8 survived, where and who are the other 2?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 22, 2008, 11:24 AM
You're right, the twist was probably obvious, although they seemed to be trying to lead us to think that it was Sawyer and Kate's baby - and that she lied to him.  Its an interesting twist to be sure, and leads to the question(s) of why Jack doesn't want to see Aaron (something with Claire most likely - and if he found out they were related at some point).  Also, what happened to Claire?  I'm really having fun watching this season - we're actually getting some answers, but more questions as well, and it sure has been interesting.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on February 22, 2008, 11:38 AM
I called the "twist" at the end too, I thought it was pretty obvious. I think the bigger question is if they are lying that 8 survived, where and who are the other 2?

Didn't they say during Kate's trial that 8 survived the crash, but two died later?  (Plus remember -- Aaron didn't "survive" the crash -- he wasn't born yet, and Christian didn't "survive" either, he was already dead) ;)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 22, 2008, 01:15 PM
I dont remmeber jack saying two died later when he was on stand but he may have. The preview for next weeks episode has me pretty excited. Looks like futre Desomnd to me.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 22, 2008, 01:28 PM
Each episode of this show keeps getting better and better.  I thought at the season finale last year that Kate was referring to Sawyer when she said "he" was waiting for her to get home, but apparently it's Aaron!

It seems pretty obvious that the Oceanic Six have some sort of cover story about their time on the island and they said two people were killed in that cover story.  I hope we hear more about it soon.

Only one more of the Oceanic Six needs to be revealed....think we'll be waiting for the last episode this season for that one?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 22, 2008, 02:12 PM
What do you guys think about Daniel and the cards scene. They seem to know that the island has some type of special property and i think they were testing psychic abilities.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 22, 2008, 02:50 PM
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Only one more of the Oceanic Six needs to be revealed....think we'll be waiting for the last episode this season for that one?

I was wondering about that as well.  We may still have two to go, since some of the people we have seen don't necessarily "count".  Ben isn't one of the Oceanic passengers, Aaron technically wasn't either (since he was born on the island), and Desmond got their his own way as well.  If you go by that, we've just got Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid so far.  I could see us having to wait a bit longer to find out who the last one or two are though.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 22, 2008, 03:16 PM
I think the count is 4 which means 2 more left.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: jadesfire on February 22, 2008, 04:54 PM
I want to know why he asked Ben for 3.2 million....what's that mean??   I called the baby thing too but not until 1/2 way through the show.  Man, you have to listen really close sometimes when they speak and look at everything going on - and NEVER try and make popcorn during the show - blasted popping was so loud I barely heard what Kate and Sawyer were saying!!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 22, 2008, 05:45 PM
3.2 million was pretty specific. I also have the theory that miles is the grandson of the asian guy on the dharma videos. It would explain why he is so angry with Ben and has knowledge. Its probably absolutley wrong but i love those dharma videos
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: efranks on February 22, 2008, 07:57 PM
What do you guys think about Daniel and the cards scene. They seem to know that the island has some type of special property and i think they were testing psychic abilities.

I think I missed what Daniel said at the end of that little game because after it happened, for the rest of the show, I had this thought that he was losing his memory.  That he forgot what the other card was.  Maybe I missed something.  I'll have to watch it when it replays next week.

After Kate mentioned her "son" and then the scene with her and Claire I guessed that she had Aaron back in the US.  The whole Oceanic 6 has baffled me from the beginning, I couldn't figure out what was going on and when Jack gave his testimony last night it was a real head scratcher.  Now, is everyone else dead or are they covering for them so nobody goes looking for the island where the rest are still living?

The show is good, but it's still frustrating.  I want answers, damn it.

   E...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: David on February 22, 2008, 10:03 PM
What happened to creepy eye patch guy who's been killed twice? I want to know more about him. And you would think Desmond would have shared that little detail of Charlie's death with everyone.  ???

I also think it's kinda dumb that it only took Claire one episode to get over Charlie's death. In last night's episode it was like it hadn't even happened.  ::)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 23, 2008, 11:22 AM
This oceanic 6 stuff is driving me mad. It's just like the 12 original cylons and who they are.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 24, 2008, 08:52 PM
What do you guys think about Daniel and the cards scene. They seem to know that the island has some type of special property and i think they were testing psychic abilities.

This was my first thought as well - that he was testing paranormal abilities.  The Aaron thing was pretty obvious once they mentioned her baby.  I was trying to figure out the timeline and it just didn't seem to make sense.  Even if she's 3 mo. pregnant right now (on the island), she would be 6 months pregnant back hom, and doesn't seem to make sense that they would wait over six months for a trial.  Agree that the episodes keep getting better and better.  Kudos to the writers for bringing some mystery back to the show.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 25, 2008, 09:27 AM
I think the count is 4 which means 2 more left.

Kate, Jack, Hugo, Saied, and Arron. Is Arron number five? Is number six the person in the coffin?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 25, 2008, 09:44 AM
Aaron was born on the island and wasn't on the plane, so he can't be #5.  There's still two Oceanic 6 persons to be revealed.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 26, 2008, 09:25 AM
Not sure I quite follow the logic. I don't think we can say for sure that his birth status excludes him from being included in the count. Besides, I'm pretty sure the advertisement in the episode previous stated that another Oceanic 6 would be revealed.  As always, could be wrong though.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on February 26, 2008, 10:42 AM
Technically, I don't think Kate was revealed as an Oceanic Six survivor until the last episode.  She was in Jack's Flash-Forward last season but that was before we knew about the Oceanic Six.

I'm wondering how they are going to reconcile the whole Aaron thing - if he was considered "Kate's" baby she'd have to be nearly as pregnant as Claire was at the time of the Oceanic 815.  Surely someone in the law enforcement would have known that she was 8 months pregnant when the Marshall was bringing her back the US.  I just don't see how that adds up.

Before the end of the last epsiode - I was convinced that the Oceanic Six were:  Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley, Locke, and Sawyer.  Now, I'm doubting both Locke and Sawyer. 


BTW, I'm just catching up on this thread becuase I hadn't watched most of the new episodes this season until last night - remind me, who is Christian?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Muftak on February 26, 2008, 11:34 AM
Jack's father, and Aaron's grandfather, for that matter...who may or may not really be dead, after Jack's outburst in the hospital halls in the finale, and what may have been an appearance by him at the cabin when Hurley looked in the window.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 26, 2008, 12:00 PM
Not sure I quite follow the logic. I don't think we can say for sure that his birth status excludes him from being included in the count. Besides, I'm pretty sure the advertisement in the episode previous stated that another Oceanic 6 would be revealed.  As always, could be wrong though.

I'm making the logical assumption that to be part of the Oceanic 6 your name had to be on the flight manifest.  Having not being born, that excludes Aaron.  That also excludes people who weren't on the plane - Desmond, Ben, Alex and her mother, any of the freighter people, the Others, etc.  How this relates to Kate and her "adoption" of Aaron, I don't know, but I don't think Aaron's part of the six.



Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 27, 2008, 09:16 AM
Not sure I quite follow the logic. I don't think we can say for sure that his birth status excludes him from being included in the count. Besides, I'm pretty sure the advertisement in the episode previous stated that another Oceanic 6 would be revealed.  As always, could be wrong though.

I'm making the logical assumption that to be part of the Oceanic 6 your name had to be on the flight manifest.  Having not being born, that excludes Aaron.  That also excludes people who weren't on the plane - Desmond, Ben, Alex and her mother, any of the freighter people, the Others, etc.  How this relates to Kate and her "adoption" of Aaron, I don't know, but I don't think Aaron's part of the six.





Okay, now I follow. Not sure if I would agree about Aaron specifically, but I can accept that reasoning. If you're right, I owe you a coke. ;)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 27, 2008, 01:02 PM
The reason why i dont think Aaron is included in the six is based on some other characters. Think about this aspect. Lets say Desmond gets off the island. He would not be considered on of the Oceanic 6. He was not on the plane so why would he be considered one of them. Same thing for Ben or Juliet. They are not part of the oceanic six.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 29, 2008, 09:15 AM
I completely agree with that reasoning, however, since the Aaron was given birth by one of the passengers, one can conclude that can be part of the six. However, I can see him not being included in the count either. Seems this is a big point of debate in the lost forums as well.

Setting that aside, another great episode last night! This season is truly fantastic.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on February 29, 2008, 09:30 AM
Setting that aside, another great episode last night! This season is truly fantastic.

I agree, Desomnd is one of my favorite characters and last night's epiosde was fantastic.  I actually cheered for him at the end.  :)

Also, I think my favorite part last night was the auction...  of the log book... that was written by a "first mate" Hanso... recovered from the sailing ship, the Black Rock... that was "lost at sea".   :D

Waaaaaaay too many easter eggs in that scene, and chocked full of "whoa" moments for things we've seen/heard about on the island before!  :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 29, 2008, 09:32 AM
Yeah, I really enjoyed last night's episode as well.  The Desmond stuff always seems to be good, and this season in general has been great I think.  Regarding the Oceanic 6, I noticed that TV Guide's "insider" Michael Ausiello mentioned in his column this week that Aaron isn't considered one of the Oceanic 6.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 29, 2008, 10:46 PM
Desmond is one of my top 3 favorite characters and i was happy to see him finally speak to penelope, but i am not digging the time travel thing. Not sure how they are going explain that.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: David on March 1, 2008, 11:49 AM
Tivo'ed it, watched it yesterday. That episode was about as weird as it gets.  :o The ending with Farraday was great...'If anything goes wrong, Desmond will be my constant.' I guess he must be jumping back and forward in time too and has just gotten used to it somehow. ???
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on March 3, 2008, 10:00 PM
I think he put that in his journal because of the experience with Desmond in the past to act as a saftey, but I don't think he's jumping back and forth in time.  If he was, he would be passed out in the "present" time at least once in a while.

However, I do think that he will go through the same time jumping thing at some point.  Remember how he was crying in his flashback when they found the remains of the flight on TV?  And he didn't know why he was crying?  I wonder if this is him travelling back in time and suffering the same problem, but he won't be able to find Desmond. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on March 4, 2008, 08:46 AM
TV Guide (http://www.tvguide.com/news/lost-questions-answered/080304-01) has a nice Q and A up now, with questions from the cast and answers from the producers (Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof).  Sounds like we'll be getting a lot of answers yet this season, and topics covered are the Oceanic 6, time jumping, the coffin, etc.  SPOILERS are definitely discussed, so beware, although there aren't really any definitive "answers" given, more about what will be covered in the upcoming episodes.  Sounds good.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: efranks on March 4, 2008, 10:01 AM
Yeah, they always tell us we're going to get a whole bunch of answers then we get squat.  I will admit though that last week's episode had some good info in it and, IMO, was probably the best episode so far this season.

Still, I think a psych student could write their thesis paper on my love/hate relationship with this show.  I feel like the battered girlfriend that keeps going home because my "man" keeps promising me things will get better.

   E...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on March 4, 2008, 01:41 PM
As the main characters have all of these little adventures, do you think all of the unnamed faceless survivors on the beach know what is happening? Do they know they are in danger or do they just go about their business of sitting on the beach and making dinner?

Wouldn't it be great to have a spin off on just them but going on at the same time? Kind of like ST:TNG and Deep Space 9.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 5, 2008, 09:16 AM
I think we've see that the lesser characters, tend to get left out of the loop by the main characters by design. No need to worry the troops until they need to be worried.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on March 5, 2008, 03:30 PM
I think we've see that the lesser characters, tend to get left out of the loop by the main characters by design. No need to worry the troops until they need to be worried.

They are left out of any "missions" the main characters go on, but they obviously aren't oblivious to things like the hatch, people dying, presence of "the others," etc.  If I was one of 30 or so "extras," I don't think I would be content just accepting everything that was happening and hanging out on the beach. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on March 7, 2008, 08:25 AM
Last night's episode sucked.  Why would anyone tape over a Red Sox tape?  :'(

Actually I enjoyed it.  Some answers, some more questions.  Good stuff.  Plus Ben is fast becoming the best character on the show (him and Desmond).  Always in control, even when he's locked in a closet.  And he brought the funny - "this rabbit didn't have a number on it did it?" and "see you at dinner" while Sawyer and Hurley stared at him slacked jawed.

Plus Juliet is teh hawt.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on March 7, 2008, 08:50 AM
Ben and Desmond all the way. It was an OK episode. I had already guessed that Widmore was the man behind the boat and the "economist". I don't know i f i buy Ben's story about wanting to exploit the island. That may be part of it but i also think that Widmore wants to keep Desmond there. Its a race now between father and daughter to find the island. As for the man on the boat, i think they made it pretty obvious that it is Michael with the preview for next week.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 7, 2008, 09:10 AM
Ben is much better than he was last year for sure. I have to re-watch last nights episodes because I had some distractions and missed some lines and images.

However, I did catch that the last of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed next week, so our little debate will be answered once and for all.  :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on March 7, 2008, 09:13 AM
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However, I did catch that the last of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed next week, so our little debate will be answered once and for all.

I noticed that as well, looking forward to it.  I really lean towards Michael being the "man on the boat" as well.  We know he's coming back to the show at some point, somehow, and this seems like as good a place as any.  He's been in the opening credits a couple of times already this season.  Another good episode overall last night, with some nice light shed on Ben and Juliet.  I think that Michael Emerson (Ben) should be considered for awards, something like "best creepy guy" or something :).  I also liked the moment of Sawyer and Hurley playing horseshoes and Ben walks by "see you at dinner".
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on March 7, 2008, 09:46 AM
Why do they list an actor's name on the credits for an episode the actor didn't appear in? They did that a few times for Fisher Stevens when we never saw him until we were on the boat.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on March 7, 2008, 09:57 AM
  I think that Michael Emerson (Ben) should be considered for awards, something like "best creepy guy" or something :). 

He already has. :)  He won an Emmy (http://michaelemerson.net/pa.html#Awards) for playing an extra-creepy serial killer on The Practice - as well as a "fun" award for playing "Best Baddie".
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 8, 2008, 09:41 AM
Why do they list an actor's name on the credits for an episode the actor didn't appear in? They did that a few times for Fisher Stevens when we never saw him until we were on the boat.

Contracts and money, and a lot of time it has nothing to do with the actors ego either. It's sometimes cheeper for the studio to give actors a better credit, has to do with their "appearing" status (regular, re-occurring, guest star, etc...)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on March 8, 2008, 01:40 PM
Why do they list an actor's name on the credits for an episode the actor didn't appear in? They did that a few times for Fisher Stevens when we never saw him until we were on the boat.

Contracts and money, and a lot of time it has nothing to do with the actors ego either. It's sometimes cheeper for the studio to give actors a better credit, has to do with their "appearing" status (regular, re-occurring, guest star, etc...)

Also think that its easier to just create a line of credits and use that multiple times, rather than altering them for whomever may have appeared in the show.  Certainly if a guest actor appears, they should be named, but I wouldn't want to have to track each character for an appearance and then change the list each time. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 14, 2008, 09:13 AM
So, the final count on the Oceanic 6 - Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sayid, Aaron and Sun? Everyone in agreement?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on March 14, 2008, 09:18 AM
I'm not counting Aaron... yet....

Did they confirm that the last of the Oceanic 6 were supposed to be confirmed by this week's episode.  If so, then I guess I'd have to agree.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on March 14, 2008, 10:33 AM
I love this show.  The simultaneous flashback/flash-forward last night was brilliant.  And I'm sure that you all caught the date of death on Jin's tombstone?  9/22/2004 ... which is the day the plane crashed. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on March 14, 2008, 03:35 PM
So in a way they are cheating here. Jin is alive but in hidding and assumed dead. I also don't count Aaron as an Oceanic 6 survivor. That means there is still one left. I have a feeling that these flash forwards are actually different realities that may or maynot have anything to do with what is happening on the island. I believe this because Hurrly keeps showing up in everyone's flash forward. For example, if he is back in the mental ward, how can he go to Korea to see Sun?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on March 14, 2008, 04:09 PM
So, the final count on the Oceanic 6 - Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sayid, Aaron and Sun? Everyone in agreement?

Not the way I saw it at all.  I figured the six were Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sayid, Sun, and either Aaron or one more survivor.  No idea what the heck is up with Jin - he obviously survives, but maybe has amnesia?  Weird.  Keep thinking back to Jack's testimony where he said 8 survived the crash, but there is an "Oceanic 6," which must mean that two people's bodies are recovered and appear to have survived the crash, but are obvously dead before the rescue.  What I want to see is how they are going to get around reports that all of the bodies from the plane crash were recovered, but 6-8 other (some live) bodies have shown up, so who are the 6-8 extra dead people?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on March 14, 2008, 04:55 PM
So in a way they are cheating here. Jin is alive but in hidding and assumed dead.

No idea what the heck is up with Jin - he obviously survives, but maybe has amnesia?

How does how he "obviously" survive?

The way I saw it, he is either a) dead on the island or b) still alive on the island.  I think the date on the tombstone leaves his fate wide open...

Maybe he does die on the island, but they have to pretend he died in the crash, just like they are pretending everyone else died in the crash.  Or maybe he is alive on the island still... no straight answer on that yet IMHO.  Either way, Sun sure seemed sad without him.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 14, 2008, 05:18 PM
So were they doing a flash forward with Sun and a flashback with Jin?  I'm so confused!  Also, we are supposed to know the the identity of all the Oceanic Six now...according to the preview they showed on 6 March.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on March 14, 2008, 05:25 PM
How does how he "obviously" survive?

The way I saw it, he is either a) dead on the island or b) still alive on the island.  I think the date on the tombstone leaves his fate wide open...

If he is still on the island or dead, then they were doing a flash forward and flash back at the same time, which I don't think they've done before.  Not saying that can't be it, but I took the Jin/Sun scenes to both be set post rescue, which would mean that Jin is alive, but living a seperate life.  If that's the case, either Sun doesn't know he's still alive or she can't be with him for some reason, which would make her equally sad.  If they do know he's alive, seems kind of pointless to have them go to his grave. 

Obviously the writers have some plan to tie all this up, but I'm starting to get impatient to actually see it! 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on March 14, 2008, 05:42 PM
So were they doing a flash forward with Sun and a flashback with Jin? 

If he is still on the island or dead, then they were doing a flash forward and flash back at the same time, which I don't think they've done before.

There were lots of clues that Jin was flashing back, not forward - his old style cell phone, the "year of the dragon" bit at the toy store (last year of the dragon was 2000), the fact he was working for Paik Industries, his goofy haircut.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: jadesfire on March 14, 2008, 06:08 PM
Didn't Jin also say to the lady at the hospital when she asked about if he had children yet "No, I have only been married two months"  I took that remark as it was a flash back....but with this show - hell, you never know!!

So, onto next week....did the preview say that someone dies?  As in 'someone from the plane' dies or just someone in general dies??
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on March 14, 2008, 07:47 PM
For example, if he is back in the mental ward, how can he go to Korea to see Sun?

Easy.  Sun's flashback happened before Hurley's.  He wasn't back in the mental institution yet.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on March 15, 2008, 12:38 AM
My wife was confused by this too.  I thought it was pretty obvious that Jin's was a flash back and Sun's was a flash forward.  Of course the director wanted you to think they were both flash forwards but they were not. 

I agree, Hurly could have come to Korea before getting checked back into the institution.

BTW, congrats to whoever called the Michael thing way back.  Nice!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 15, 2008, 10:07 AM

Did they confirm that the last of the Oceanic 6 were supposed to be confirmed by this week's episode. 

Yep. The preview said, the last of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed.

I think we have to give credit to the Michael thing to Tracy
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: David on March 15, 2008, 11:18 AM
Agreed, good call Tracy!

I bet Claire is somehow gonna die next week, and that's how Kate will end up with Aaron.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: jadesfire on March 15, 2008, 06:28 PM
I would assume Claire has to die also for the baby to go to Kate but how does the baby get to Kate?  Does she get shot and Hurley goes and gets Jack for help and then she has Kate promise to take care of Aaron?  Is that why Hurley ends up with Jack and company when they leave the island?  I dunno....but this season is much better than last season, IMHO.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 16, 2008, 10:20 AM
I would assume Claire has to die also for the baby to go to Kate but how does the baby get to Kate? 

I wouldn't. A bunch of people could have stayed on the Island for various reasons. Sure, she could die, but I wouldn't assume that, not on this show.

Sadly. I missed the rebroadcast of the Juliet episode, so I'm still lacking in some newer details.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 16, 2008, 01:10 PM
We know Jack,Kate,Hugo,Syiad,Sun are 5 of the 6 Oceanic 6? Who is heck is the 6th of the Oceanic 6? Micheal? Arron? WHHOOO!

Ok here is my thoughts on why those people are the people that got off the Island, the answer is easy they were not exposed to the eletromatic fallout from the Swan being blown up.  At that time Jack,Kate,Hugo, and Sawyer were all on the other side of the island being held by Ben on the dock.  Micheal had already left with Walt. Syiad,Jin, and Sun were all on Desmond's boat looking for Kate,Jack,Sawyer, and Hugo. again not exposed to the fallout from the hatch explosion.

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: efranks on March 16, 2008, 02:32 PM
The only possible problem with that argument is that Aaron was with Claire when the hatch blew and he made it off.

Here's my thought on why Aaron IS one of the Oceanic 6;  We know that Kate is claiming him as her kid yet she obviously couldn't have been pregnant when they came back so Aaron would have had to come with them.

I don't think that she'd say that she was pregnant on the island because during Jack's testimony in her trial he said that Kate saved them, not something that a pregnant woman would have been able to do. Plus if she were pregnant when they crashed she would have had to of been almost due as Clair was and that makes the argument that she saved 5 other people a little more out there.

On top of that WE know that more than 6 people survived the crash but the outside world doesn't.  To the outside world when Jack, Hurley, Said, Kate, Jin and Aaron show up in the US everyone says "hey, six survivors," and that's how the press comes up with a snappy headline like "The Oceanic Six" followed by a happy, smiling photo of the courageous woman and her baby.

My question, though, is what happens to Desmond and Michael and Walt?  Desmond is the only one that wasn't on the plane that has the possibility of making it back so how is he explained?  Was he just a stranded boat racer that happened to be on the island?  Or will he not make it back to Penny from the boat where he is now?  And, if not, how's that going to be explained when Penny knows that he's alive now?

As for Michael and Walt, even if you dismiss the idea that Aaron is one of the six, then you can only count Michael OR Walt but not both and still have the "O6."  Does Michael stick with Ben's organization and therefore not get counted? 

There's still a lot of questions to be answered but I'm going to stick with Aaron being one of the 6 till we know for a fact that it's not him and is, instead, Michael (since we've seen him and we're supposed to know all 6 now).

   E...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 16, 2008, 02:50 PM
there are some crazy rumors that this "Michael" is actually a grown up Walt.  ;D Here is a ? Michael has been off the island for about a month or so how could he have gotten a job on the boat so fast? I mean I take it the boat has been there looking for the island for sometime.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 16, 2008, 02:58 PM
Maybe the drug Ethan injected Claire with before Arron was born was an antidote to the "sickness"  I can not wait till they do a backstory about Rousseau I just I'm dying to find out if my theories about her are true.   

Opps sorry I thought I was posting under my other post.. :o
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on March 17, 2008, 10:23 AM
From what I remember from the promos they did say that last Thursday's episode would reveal the "last of the Oceanic Six", so in one way or another, we must know all six by now.  I'm wondering if Aaron is considered part of that number, or maybe someone else (like Michael?).  It may even be whoever was in the casket in Jack's flash forward last season (again, maybe Michael, or someone else totally).  I don't know that they've ever actually said that all of the Oceanic Six are still alive.  But then again, by that logic, since they are all supposed to be so famous at this point, you would think someone would have shown up for that viewing/funeral for whoever is in the casket - just out of curiosity if nothing else.  Lots of questions there, to be sure.

Like others, I'm not totally convinced that Jin (or Claire for that matter) are necessarily really "dead" - but it may just be part of the lie that the Oceanic Six are sticking to.  Its pretty obvious that there has to be someone left on that island that is still alive, although the "real world" isn't supposed to know about it.  I read an interesting theory this morning as well that the "Adam and Eve" skeletons from the cave in Season 1 may in fact be Rose and Bernard, as a result of all the time traveling/tripping type things.  Who knows if it is true, but interesting either way.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on March 17, 2008, 12:50 PM
I am glad you brought up the skeletons. I hope they revisit that, the 4 toed foot and the black and white stones locke has.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on March 17, 2008, 10:48 PM
There were lots of clues that Jin was flashing back, not forward - his old style cell phone, the "year of the dragon" bit at the toy store (last year of the dragon was 2000), the fact he was working for Paik Industries, his goofy haircut.

Wow, I missed a lot of this.   :-[  I even remember hearing that it was the year of the dragon, but didn't bother to look up when that actually was.  You've convinced me!

I was watching one of the last episodes of Season 3 tonight - the one where Charlie goes down to the Looking Glass hatch.  Desmond tells Charlie about his vision, where Charlie dies, but he also says that part of his vision is Claire and Aaron getting on a rescue helicopter.  I had completely forgotten about this.  If that's the case, Claire must at least make it to the helicopter.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Straxus on March 18, 2008, 01:37 AM
When Jin and Bernard were fishing and Jin caught something both my girlfriend and I immediately joked that it was Charlie on the other end of the hook...hehe.

I read somewhere on someones theory that the island is some weird parallel timeline/displaced version of manhatten island and that the four toed statue is whats left of the statue of liberty. (appearantly the statue of liberty is suppost to only have four toes? Never been able to check this out for myself...)
Though my theory on the island is that its Lemuria. Its in the right area for that mythical island.

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on March 18, 2008, 09:49 AM
Have you ever noticed how the flash forwards are going backwards in time. We started off with scruffy Jack wanting to go back to the island to Kate's hearing to Sun visiting Jin's grave. It seems to me that this season will link up with the last flash forward at some point. The new season will start with scruffy Jack figuring out how to get back to the island.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on March 19, 2008, 08:56 AM
From TV Guide's Ask Ausiello (http://www.tvguide.com/ask-ausiello) column this week, regarding the Oceanic Six:
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Question: Who the heck are the Oceanic Six? If Aaron's not one of them, and Jin's grave marker is for his "supposed" death when the plane crashed, who else made it off the island with Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid and Jin?— Jen

Ausiello: Who said Aaron is not one of the Oceanic Six? Certainly not me. Take another look at my asterisk quiz from Feb. 27 and consider all of the possible combinations. In the meantime, don't expect a definitive answer about the Six from Team Darlton. Carlton Cuse tells me they're "not going public with any further clarifications right now." And what of the ABC promo that promised viewers they'd know the identity of the Six by the end of last week's episode? "We don't determine how ABC promotes the show," says Cuse. "But Damon and I will say you have now seen all of the Oceanic Six in this season's episodes."
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Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 19, 2008, 09:36 AM
all of the O6 have been featured in a flashfoward, Jin was not his was a flashback, Jin can not be one of the O6. That leaves Michael or Arron. Since Michael wan an actual passenger on OC815 and we know he is already off the island, it dose not take a strectch to think he is the 6th.  I also have always thought he was in the one in the coffin at the end of S3.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 19, 2008, 09:44 AM
Michael being one of the 6 is a real stretch, he and Walt got off way before, not to mention a whole host of other logic issues. Least of which is that the six would have have all been found together and we haven't seen Michael in any flash forwards to indicate that he survived the boat situation.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 19, 2008, 11:10 AM
its Michael! Kate's reaction to Jack after shows her the obit for the person in the coffin... It is Michael!  ;D I would bet you my unopened Imperial Shuttle from ROTJ *if I actually had one to bet*   ;D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 21, 2008, 09:21 AM
its Michael! Kate's reaction to Jack after shows her the obit for the person in the coffin... It is Michael!  ;D I would bet you my unopened Imperial Shuttle from ROTJ *if I actually had one to bet*   ;D

Bummer, I would have been on shuttle richer.  8)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 21, 2008, 02:46 PM
No kidding....since they showed Arron in the preview for the next episode (at the end of ******* April...dammit where's the Prozac!), he's the last of the Oceanic Six.

I have a feeling both Claire and Jin are hiding on the Island.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on March 21, 2008, 03:26 PM
I am hoping Danielle is just wounded and not dead. I really want an episode about her.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on March 21, 2008, 04:28 PM
I was not a huge fan of the Micheal episode last night, but glad they got around to explaining his back story.  Nice to see Libby back as well - I'm still hoping to get a backstory on why she was locked up with Hugo.  Aaron was confirmed as one of the six at the end of the show, so at least that arguement is settled.  Bummed to see Danielle and Carl taken out like that - they deserved a better ending, though you never know who's truly dead at this point (i.e. Locke). 

When is the next new episode?  Five weeks away?   :-\
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 29, 2008, 04:15 PM
what does C.Witmore want on the island that he would go to such extremes to get it ? Could it be that Arron is his Grandson? Could it be that Alex is ganddaughter?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on March 29, 2008, 10:49 PM
what does C.Witmore want on the island that he would go to such extremes to get it

I think (and they've hinted) that since he's in the pharmaceuticals industry (Widmore meds and pregnancy tests shown in previous episodes), he's interested in the magical healing aspects of the island...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: jjks on March 30, 2008, 06:58 PM
Anyone else play the Lost: Via Domus game on the 360 yet? I picked up a cheap copy on eBay this week, and it arrived yesterday. Played a little last night, and some more this afternoon, and already have all 1000 achievement points. I wouldn't recommend buying it unless you can find it cheap, but it's definitely at least worth a rental if you're a fan. It kept me entertained.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on April 18, 2008, 09:04 AM
TV Guide (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TV-Show-Blog/Tv-Previews/Lost-Scads-Scoopy/800037760) has a little preview of what's ahead for the rest of the season, straight from the producers of LOST.  Not really anything in the way of solid spoilers, just a look at where things are headed this season and beyond.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on April 18, 2008, 02:20 PM
When do we start getting new episodes again?  Next week?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on April 18, 2008, 02:26 PM
When do we start getting new episodes again?  Next week?

I believe so.  Then they run all the way through until the season finale, which is seperated by a week I believe.  One hour, then a week off (for larger Grey's Anatomy and Ugly Betty finales I believe), then a two hour season finale on May 29th.  Also, of note, I'm pretty sure from here on out LOST airs at 10/9c.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on April 18, 2008, 08:53 PM
Correct...I am so pumped for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 25, 2008, 09:23 AM
Wow! Right out of the gate. Great episode, but it did seem a little rushed, which is what they were trying to avoid having these episodes feel.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on April 25, 2008, 02:54 PM
Really good episode with a lot of new questions. I really want to knwo whatt he rules are becuase Ben was very much surprised about Alex.

So here is a thought, when Ben went to Whidmore's apartment and he said that he couldnt kill him...perhaps they are each other's constant. It would be a cool twist.

I also hope that this means that Desmond will be around til the end.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on April 25, 2008, 03:24 PM
WTF? I didn't even realize it was back.  Here's hoping that the DVR programming caught it.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on May 5, 2008, 02:49 PM
I'm surprised no one mentioned this yet, but in last week's episode (May 1), did anyone else notice a cameo by the Millennium Falcon.  Jack stepped on some sort of Falcon toy (I wasn't certain which one it was), and it also got a close up when he set it on the counter.  Kind of cool.  Oh, and another good episode too :).
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 5, 2008, 03:29 PM
I did notice that. Could this be a Titanium Ultra Millennium Falcon?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/phruby/falcon.jpg)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on May 5, 2008, 03:35 PM
It seemed about that size, but it seemed to make a "plasticy" sound when he set it down.  I thought it was either that or a previous micro machines or Action Fleet version - but I'm not very familiar with those.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Muftak on May 5, 2008, 05:05 PM
We noticed that too, I said, "hey, it's the Millennium Falcon!" and my wife said "Is that the new one you want?" to which I replied... "uh, no, the one that's coming out is like three feet long..." and then she stopped talking to me for some reason. :-X

Thanks, LOST!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 5, 2008, 09:32 PM
We noticed that too, I said, "hey, it's the Millennium Falcon!" and my wife said "Is that the new one you want?" to which I replied... "uh, no, the one that's coming out is like three feet long..." and then she stopped talking to me for some reason. :-X

Thanks, LOST!

That's hilarious.   ;D  I noticed the Falcon and called it out while we were watching too, but haven't said jack to my wife about a $150 version coming out in the near future. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 6, 2008, 05:02 PM
and then she stopped talking to me for some reason. :-X

Thanks, LOST!

Maybe it's because of those boxed AT-ATs your using for a coffee table?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 9, 2008, 09:35 AM
What an insanely amazing episode last night! That's all I can say.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on May 9, 2008, 10:17 AM
What an insanely amazing episode last night! That's all I can say.
???

They moved it to Thursday?  Crap, I didn't know..........
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on May 9, 2008, 01:21 PM
Good episode indeed. interesting to see Richard really has not aged at all and both sides want Locke to go to the island.

I am also curious about why Christian mentioned that Aaron is where he is supposed to be and he is taking an interest in his daughter but not his son.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 16, 2008, 01:16 AM
Another great episode tonight.  Weird stuff going on the boat...like who set up all that C-4?!

Sucks we have to wait two weeks for the finale...damn you Grey's Anatomy!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: efranks on May 16, 2008, 01:43 AM
I think Keamy set it up.  Remember last week when his buddy was strapping that device to his arm?  I think that might be a detonator, maybe keyed to his pulse so if he dies the boat goes up.

I thought it was interesting how Jack finally found out Claire was related to him.  Talk about shock. 

   E...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Rob on May 16, 2008, 02:12 AM
I think Keamy set it up.  Remember last week when his buddy was strapping that device to his arm?  I think that might be a detonator, maybe keyed to his pulse so if he dies the boat goes up.


That was my reaction as well.


Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on May 16, 2008, 07:09 AM
I also fin dit interesting that the Black Rock was full of dynamite and now this freighter is full of C4, like history is repeating itself.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on May 16, 2008, 08:54 AM
I thought it was interesting how Jack finally found out Claire was related to him.  Talk about shock. 

Yeah!  With the cover story they were using, Jack couldn't say anything about knowing Claire or Aaron being Claire's kid - I mean, that lady's grandbaby was right there with Kate and he didn't/couldn't say anything!

I hope there will end up being more to that story line next year as we learn more about Jack's dad and what not.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 16, 2008, 09:16 AM
Yeah, another great one! I love how the Oceanic 6 are spread out all over making one wonder how they all get together to get off the island.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on May 16, 2008, 09:29 AM
I am really worried about my favorite character on the show, Desmond. The writers have no problem killing off main characters and i wonder if he's next  :-[
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: efranks on May 16, 2008, 10:25 AM
I know, I'm going to be pissed if Desmond gets killed. 

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on May 16, 2008, 11:01 AM
I know, I'm going to be pissed if Desmond gets killed. 



He's one of my favorite characters too, but I'm afraid he's not going to make it.  He's not one of the Oceanic 6, and last week he made his speech to Sayid about already spending 3 years on the island and there was no way he was going back..............
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on May 16, 2008, 11:02 AM
I know, I'm going to be pissed if Desmond gets killed. 



And Jin.

I wasn't 100% convinced that Jin was really dead after Sun's flash forward / Jin's flashback episode this season.  I always thought he was alive on the island and the whole dead / grave thing was part Hurley and Jin's cover story about the crash and the island.  Jin always said he'd do anything to get his family off the island (and specifically mentioned it again last night) and if that meant staying behind, then so be it.

Now it's looking more and more like he might be on the ship when it goes kablooey.  :'(

I don't think Desmond dies though.  They've built up his whole relationship with Penny to end it without them ever getting to see each again.  Plus him living sets up his confrontation with Ben if and when Ben kills Penny. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on May 16, 2008, 12:07 PM

I don't think Desmond dies though.  They've built up his whole relationship with Penny to end it without them ever getting to see each again.  Plus him living sets up his confrontation with Ben if and when Ben kills Penny. 

That is my thinking as well. It makes the storyline much more powerful if Desomnd is alive as Ben goes after Penny.

With that said, i dont believe the people on the freighter are the one's saving the oceanic 6. I think that someone else is going to come and save them and it could be Penny becuase we know she is looking. We could still get a reunion with desomnd and penny and him still not make it.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Straxus on May 16, 2008, 11:13 PM
The preveiw for next episode gave away a bit too much for me.
If you didnt see the preveiw it might spoil something for you.
Speaking of Desmond, I am still curious how the former CIA agent that he was with in the hatch got "recruited" for the station.

Also just found this heheh.
Not intending to spam but this is fitting for both the BSG and LOST threads...
The Name of the Sitehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUShe6H6eVE&feature=related (http://www.yoursite.com)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 17, 2008, 01:31 PM
That link doesn't work. You want this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3dUUShe6H6eVE%26 (http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3dUUShe6H6eVE%26)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Ghost of QG on May 29, 2008, 11:14 PM
WOW!! What a finale! Not so post spoilers yet, but this finale changes the whole dynamic of the show. And at least I know why the polar bears are on the island: They're contestants on Z"The Price is Right" and it's time to spin the Wheel!!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on May 29, 2008, 11:36 PM
That was a great season finale...

SPOILERS
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Desmond in the water after the crash...  Me: "NO!"  >:(

Desmond on Penny's boat... Me:  "Awesome!"  ;D

I totally thought he was a goner, glad to see he made it (at least for now).   :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 29, 2008, 11:47 PM
SPOILERS
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Desmond on the Boat and Jack starts giving him mouth to mouth...
My Wife: No! Not Desmond!  He's Dead.
Me: He's fine. They never work on someone that long if they're really dead.
A second later Desmond spits up water and we both cheered.

Funny, I was thinking that he died all the way up until tonight because they never showed him as one of the six survivors.  Never crossed my mind until he "came to" that he could just be rescued in secret, seeing as how he was never on the plane to begin with.  Duh.  seeing Penny on the boat was the highlight of the show for me - what a great moment for them both. 

We also took bets on who was in the coffin and I'm $5 richer.   ;)  Dissapointed at how that part turned out though - assuming he's really dead. 

One question for everyone - Is "walt" the same actor from prior seasons and he's just gone thorugh a growth spurt?  Seemed like a different actor to me at first, but I wasn't so sure by the end of the scene. 
Title: Re: LOST
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That was the same actor for Walt, and he has grown quite a bit, but it's about right because it's been three years since he left.

They actually got me with who was in the coffin!  I thought it was Ben all through the episode but then he was standing behind Jack and for some reason I thought it was Sawyer!

I was hoping we could find out what Sawyer said to Kate before he jumped...guess we have to wait until the fall.  >:(

It's going to be a great finale season as Jack tries to get all 7 back to the Island, and we find out what bad things happened along the way!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Ghost of QG on May 30, 2008, 01:47 AM
There are two seasons left. Not one.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on May 30, 2008, 02:17 AM
Awesome :)

Well after last seasons finale i guessed Ben in casket, but Locke always made sense too.

Even though you knew it was coming Jin's death was really sad. i really can't see them finding a way to bring him back either even if he was alive in the water the island would of moved before he could swim to it, which would be tough with likely injury from the explosion.

Christian's appearance before Michael pretty much confirms he's gone for good.

and YES!!! justice :) i was so happy to see Desmond get back to penny. My favorite TV couple of all next to Jim and Pam on the office.

I got a huge chill in the kate flash forward when she picked up the phone and heard all the backward talking or whatever it was. creepy!

I had a feeling Juliet might not make it, but it's cool she should be around for a little while longer at least. I was hoping to see one clip of her and sawyer after the island move, oh well next January eh?

So they may be going back to the island but it's still hard to see what they are going to do for 2 more seasons.

i guess they have alt endings on good morning america tommarrow.

Did anyone notice the ad during one of the last breaks? Octagon Global is recruiting? all kinds of positions. hmmmm...... sounds alot like the dharma eh? :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on May 30, 2008, 08:33 AM

And Jin.

I wasn't 100% convinced that Jin was really dead after Sun's flash forward / Jin's flashback episode this season.  I always thought he was alive on the island and the whole dead / grave thing was part Hurley and Jin's cover story about the crash and the island.  Jin always said he'd do anything to get his family off the island (and specifically mentioned it again last night) and if that meant staying behind, then so be it.

Now it's looking more and more like he might be on the ship when it goes kablooey.  :'(

I don't think Desmond dies though.  They've built up his whole relationship with Penny to end it without them ever getting to see each again.  Plus him living sets up his confrontation with Ben if and when Ben kills Penny. 

The more I think about it, the more I don't think Jin is dead.  Sure, we were made to believe he blew up with the freighter, but we never saw the body.  And what's the golden rule?  If you never see a body, that person isn't dead.  Plus he was too much of a major character to not get an up close and personal death scene.  My guess is he jumped off the boat before it blew and was swimming back to the island, most likely found by Daniel and the Zodiac and was within the time travel/displacement bubble when the island moved.  We'll see them in season 5 drinking rum with Juliet, her nice boobies and Sawyer on the beach.

What an amazing finale.  Lots of great stuff - the Sayid / Keamy fight, Locke in the coffin, the island disappearing and the best moment of all - Penny and Desmond finally seeing each other.  I got goosebumps and almost wept like a little bitch.

It's going to be a long wait until January...

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 30, 2008, 09:35 AM
Any guesses as to the two alternate endings? I'd guess that they changed up who was in the coffin, but my wife and I reasoned why it couldn't have been anyone else.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 30, 2008, 09:43 AM
Great show. It is still staying with me even now. I thought it was kind of funny how all of the red shirts on the boat knew the bomb was going to go off but didn't make any attempt to get on the helicopter. I guess they were all too busy putting their life jackets on.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on May 30, 2008, 09:46 AM
Finally got caught up with LOST last night.  We'd fallen behind and had them saved on our DVR.  We watched the second to last episode on Wednesday and saw the finale last night.  I absolutely loved this season!!

I forgot to set up the DVR for Good Morning America so I'm interested in hearing about the alternate endings.

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A couple random thoughts - First the boat explosion, if you look at where the explosion took place it was inside the main cabins.  Jin was running towards the landing platform pretty far from the explosion site.  Also when you saw the boat blow in the first shot, there is quite a bit of the main deck still intact.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Jin having jumped off and swam as well.   Next up, so what's the story with Sun and Whitmore, is she just interested in helping him go after Ben?  Maybe "Bantham" went to see her too and told the story of Ben letting Keamy die. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on May 30, 2008, 10:01 AM
The more I think about it, the more I don't think Jin is dead.  Sure, we were made to believe he blew up with the freighter, but we never saw the body.  And what's the golden rule?  If you never see a body, that person isn't dead.  Plus he was too much of a major character to not get an up close and personal death scene.  My guess is he jumped off the boat before it blew and was swimming back to the island, most likely found by Daniel and the Zodiac and was within the time travel/displacement bubble when the island moved.  We'll see them in season 5 drinking rum with Juliet, her nice boobies and Sawyer on the beach.

What an amazing finale.  Lots of great stuff - the Sayid / Keamy fight, Locke in the coffin, the island disappearing and the best moment of all - Penny and Desmond finally seeing each other.  I got goosebumps and almost wept like a little bitch.

It's going to be a long wait until January...



I was kind of thinking the same as you Mikey.  I'm not totally convinced Jin is dead either.  Although the scenes with Sun leaving/crying were gut-wrenching, it still doesn't seem like an appropriate death for a main character like Jin when its just a 'splosion from a ways away.  They usually tend to be more "up close and personal" with larger characters like that.  Plus, we all know that dead doesn't mean dead or "off the show" with LOST anyways.

I have to admit, I was pretty giddy over the Desmond/Penny reunion, and I was really glad that he didn't end up getting killed off.  He's become one of my favorite characters, and hopefully we'll see more of him in the upcoming seasons (likely with Ben pursuing Penny, to take revenge on Whidmore).  I have to say I really had no idea who was going to be in the casket.  I thought Locke was an option, but was surprised by the ending that it was.  This really sets things up for an interesting season next year, with the "rescuees" and "left behindees".  You just know that Jack is going round them up and take them back eventually :).

Overall, a great season finale I thought - and just a great season of LOST overall as well, probably my favorite since the first season.  I enjoyed every episode, and the wait until January is going to suck.  I hadn't heard about the alt endings on GMA, I wonder if they'll be up online somewhere soon?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on May 30, 2008, 10:05 AM
Any guesses as to the two alternate endings? I'd guess that they changed up who was in the coffin, but my wife and I reasoned why it couldn't have been anyone else.

I forgot to set up the DVR for Good Morning America so I'm interested in hearing about the alternate endings.

I watched GMA and the two alternate endings were indeed just other people being shown in the coffin, alt #1 - Saywer and alt #2 - Desmond.

They said that the LOST team filmed all three so that in case info on the taping leaked, no one would be sure who it was supposed to be until last night...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on May 30, 2008, 10:48 AM
Anyone else catch the relation of Locke's "real" name?  Most of us have read by now that the real John Locke was a philosopher.  Well, the real Jeremy Bentham was also a philosopher, and he was a contemporary of the real John Locke.  I knew it was going to be Locke in the casket, but I didn't know the name connection until after the show.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on May 30, 2008, 11:58 AM
Here's some interesting information about the real Jeremy Bentham.  Maybe that isn't Locke's body .....

As requested in his will, his body was preserved and stored in a wooden cabinet, termed his "Auto-icon". Originally kept by his disciple Dr. Southwood Smith,[11] it was acquired by University College London in 1850. The Auto-icon is kept on public display at the end of the South Cloisters in the main building of the College. For the 100th and 150th anniversaries of the college, the Auto-icon was brought to the meeting of the College Council, where he was listed as "present but not voting".[12] Tradition holds that if the council's vote on any motion is tied, the auto-icon always breaks the tie by voting in favour of the motion.

The Auto-icon has always had a wax head, as Bentham's head was badly damaged in the preservation process. The real head was displayed in the same case for many years, but became the target of repeated student pranks including being stolen on more than one occasion. It is now locked away securely.

There is a plaque on Queen Anne's Gate, Westminster commemorating the house where Bentham lived, which at the time was called Queen's Square Place.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on May 30, 2008, 03:12 PM
Awesome episode!  Something that seemed to get lost in all of the other goings on:  Charlotte's decision to stay/return to the island in search of her birth place...........

I'll admit it since you guys won't -- I did cry a when Desmond and Penny were reunited.  It was such an uplifting moment after all the death and destruction earlier in the day.

I also loved Sawyer's heroic move -- poor guy doesn't get enough credit for being a good guy.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on May 30, 2008, 03:13 PM
TVGuide (http://www.tvguide.com/news/lost-harold-perrineau/080530-03) has an interview up with Harold Perrineau (Michael), following the season finale.  He doesn't sound overly pleased with how things turned out for his character.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on May 30, 2008, 03:57 PM
interesting interview. even though he is a little displeased i could see him playing the part of dead Michael talking to Walt. You think Walt is part of the group that has to go back?

I know alot of people think Jin is not dead, but i just can't see where he could end up with the island moving. I've also read a theory that the raft with Faraday was in range of the island move and moved with it, but I'm not so sure about that either. It showed Faraday and the raft in the water after the island disappeared.

i guess the Octagon Global is recruiting thing is happening at comic con I'm even more hyped to go now.

Think Octagon Global is the joint venture between widmore and sun?

So about Locke being in the casket. So Locke as Jeremy Bentham visits all the people who got off the island still asking them to still keep the secret 3 years later and then is possibly killed by someone. hmm.. :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on May 30, 2008, 04:35 PM
So about Locke being in the casket. So Locke as Jeremy Bentham visits all the people who got off the island still asking them to still keep the secret 3 years later and then is possibly killed by someone. hmm.. :)

I wouldn't think Locke's first priority would be to ask that they keep the secret, I would think that his main objective would be to get them to return to the island.............

Maybe the island wouldn't let him live away from it................ :-\
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on May 30, 2008, 05:01 PM
yep you got it. i just re watched it on line and at the very end at the funeral parlor Jack mentions that he asked him to go back to the island when he visited him a month ago. I'm pretty sure that does mean Walt is part of the group that has to go back now as well since Locke visited him too. cool stuff :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on May 30, 2008, 06:15 PM
Ok what about the people going to the ship, whent he island disaperaed and the ship went Boom!!!? What happened to them..weere they still in the area of island and got zapped away?  why is Sun mad at Jack? What did he do? And why isn't she mad at Witmore? He was his guy that blew up the ship? Was she playing him? What about Hurley playing Chess with Mr.Echo?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on May 30, 2008, 10:44 PM
Very glad Desmond made it. He is still my favorite character and believe he will continue to be important.

CHarlotte has to be Dharma.

We need a Richard episode BADLY!

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And after reading Harold Perrineau's interview i have lost any respect for him.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 30, 2008, 11:17 PM
And after reading Harold Perrineau's interview i have lost any respect for him.

Agreed.  I know it sucks to be killed off and to be fair, him being on the boat was kind of useless IMO, but they also could have just killed him off in a single episode or just written his death without ever bringing him back if they really wanted to. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on May 31, 2008, 08:56 AM

I know alot of people think Jin is not dead, but i just can't see where he could end up with the island moving. I've also read a theory that the raft with Faraday was in range of the island move and moved with it, but I'm not so sure about that either. It showed Faraday and the raft in the water after the island disappeared.


 ??? I don't remembering seeing the Zodiac on screen after the island moved. There was a shot (the white flash) right before the island disappeared of the raft but no shot of the raft in the water after the island went bye bye.

Jin knew there was explosives on the freighter so once he saw that he couldn't get on the helicopter, do you honestly think he'd stand around waiting to get blown up? 

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 31, 2008, 09:30 AM
Anyone else catch the relation of Locke's "real" name?  Most of us have read by now that the real John Locke was a philosopher.  Well, the real Jeremy Bentham was also a philosopher, and he was a contemporary of the real John Locke.  I knew it was going to be Locke in the casket, but I didn't know the name connection until after the show.

Thanks for that info. My wife and I were thinking it was an anagram at first.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on May 31, 2008, 09:36 AM
I was thinking about things last night..Charles Whitemore, Charlette, Ilsand being moved, and the the poloar bears.

Lets start with Charlette, its clear she was born on the island, so was she on the island when ben gased the Dharma people, was she already taken off the island, or were there a group of Dhrama people that survived the attack ( I.E just like a handfull of Jedi survived order 66) in which Charlette was with. I'm going to guess these people were lead by Charles Whitemore???  

Here is another thing im trying ot figure out, its clear the Island was "moved" before...most likey after the Dharma perdge. So who moved the Island?? Since we know now the person who moves the Island can never go back to the Island...I wounder if Ben tricked Whitemore????

I figured out why Sun is mad at Jack, might blame him for Jin's death, well it was jack that used the sat phone to contact the frieghter people, and that ultimatley lead to his death. Of course she dose not know that Ben killed Keamey which lead to the boat being blow up.

We know now why Charolette found the bones of the polar bear in the desert, Dharma was using the time machine to send animals back to the past or the future.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on May 31, 2008, 11:42 AM

I know alot of people think Jin is not dead, but i just can't see where he could end up with the island moving. I've also read a theory that the raft with Faraday was in range of the island move and moved with it, but I'm not so sure about that either. It showed Faraday and the raft in the water after the island disappeared.


 ??? I don't remembering seeing the Zodiac on screen after the island moved. There was a shot (the white flash) right before the island disappeared of the raft but no shot of the raft in the water after the island went bye bye.

Jin knew there was explosives on the freighter so once he saw that he couldn't get on the helicopter, do you honestly think he'd stand around waiting to get blown up? 



yep watching it again they last show the Zodiac during the light flash. So i guess there is a good chance the raft moved with the island. I'm not so sure The Zodiac was in range of the freighter to pick up jin, and the freighter was pretty far off shore to be pulled along with the island. This is one of the fun things about the show :) figuring what really happened.

That's a interesting theory on widmore being on the island before. :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 31, 2008, 01:42 PM

Jin knew there was explosives on the freighter so once he saw that he couldn't get on the helicopter, do you honestly think he'd stand around waiting to get blown up? 


Yes, just like all the red shirts on the boat waited around to get blown up.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: David on May 31, 2008, 01:55 PM
I saw it last night. Very good episode, it definitely changes everything.

Wasn't Ben wearing the Dharma parka thing in the desert during the flash forward? Also, where were Rose and Bernard in all this? Are they still on the island or are they with Farraday? I'm just trying to put every character somewhere. And, I also think Jin's still alive. I also think eventually when the Oceanic 6 (and Locke) do go back to the island, Sun will be going 1) to find Jin and 2) to help lead Whitmore to it for revenge.

I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of 'horrible things' happened on the island after Jack left. Should be interesting...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on May 31, 2008, 02:32 PM

Yes, just like all the red shirts on the boat waited around to get blown up.

I honestly think they didn't know what was going on.  The only people we know for sure who saw the C4 was Michael, Jin and Desmond.  Then we have a bunch of chaos up to and including the freighter blowing up.  Most people don't process information too efficiently in panic situations.  Who knows, maybe Jin isn't the only survivor.  :P

Assuming he survives, I think we have to make the logical assumption that Jin gets back on the island somehow.  I doubt there's much story to tell about some dude floating out in the middle of the ocean.  We know he's not on the Zodiac with Faraday so that leaves that out.  We can also assume he didn't swim back to the island before the island disappeared because the helicopter didn't quite make it back to the island either, and though Jin is a good swimmer, I doubt he can swim faster than the helicopter can fly.  That leaves that weird time displacement thing between the island and the freighter.  Remember the doctor washing up on the island a day before he was killed on the freighter?  That's my guess on how they explain Jin making it back to the island before it time warped.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on May 31, 2008, 03:51 PM


Wasn't Ben wearing the Dharma parka thing in the desert during the flash forward? Also, where were Rose and Bernard in all this?


Yep he was wearing the haliwax dharma jacket and if you go back to that episode his arm was cut as well which happened when the ladder broke on the way down to the wheel.

Rose and Bernard are on the island. I'm pretty sure they intended on staying because of Rose's cancer being cured on the island.

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 1, 2008, 10:01 AM
Three years though, all those people stuck on the island. It'll be quite interesting to see everything that happened in those three years. I'm still hoping they explain the whole selection process for being kidnapped by the others. I thought it had something to do with spotty pasts, but Rose and Bernard seem fairly clear cut, though I have to admit I can't remember their flashback all to well.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on June 1, 2008, 12:01 PM
Three years though, all those people stuck on the island. It'll be quite interesting to see everything that happened in those three years. I'm still hoping they explain the whole selection process for being kidnapped by the others. I thought it had something to do with spotty pasts, but Rose and Bernard seem fairly clear cut, though I have to admit I can't remember their flashback all to well.

The only flashback I remember with Rose and Bernard was when they were in Australia seeking a cure for her cancer just before the crash.  Where there any others that showed their past that I missed or forgot about ???
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on June 1, 2008, 01:38 PM
When ben told Jack the ALL needed to go back to the island that would include the O6 Jack,Kate,Hurley,Syaid,Sun, and Arron..that six..he said John..thats 7..does he also mean Walt which would make 8. What about Desi and the Chopper dude?

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on June 1, 2008, 02:26 PM
I'm pretty sure he wants Walt to go since Locke visited Walt. I'm pretty sure we won't see frank again. I'm sure we will see Desmond again, I'm not sure he would be part of the group that has to go back though. In a way i would almost be alright with not seeing Desmond again as part of the main story even though he is such a cool character just because i always wanted to see him make it, and he's in the best possible spot right now with penny :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on June 1, 2008, 08:14 PM
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Could this possibly be Jin swimming shortly before it exploded?

even if it is, unless the island move reached all the way to the freighter wreck i'm not sure where he could go.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on June 1, 2008, 11:15 PM
Nice screen grab there Theo.  Could very well be Jin
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on June 1, 2008, 11:27 PM
I'm pretty sure he wants Walt to go since Locke visited Walt. I'm pretty sure we won't see frank again. I'm sure we will see Desmond again, I'm not sure he would be part of the group that has to go back though. In a way i would almost be alright with not seeing Desmond again as part of the main story even though he is such a cool character just because i always wanted to see him make it, and he's in the best possible spot right now with penny :)

I think Frank is gone, as is Micheal.  I think Jin is out there - could be a back-up boat or the other people from the island on the inflatable, whatever.  And I think we will definitely see a lot more of Desmond.  For starters, Ben is gunning for Penny after Widmore killed his daughter.  There's bound to be a plotline with Penny and Ben and Desmond is pretty likely to be involved.  Second, if the island requires Locke to be among those returning, I've got believe its going to require Desmond too.   ;)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 2, 2008, 09:19 AM
Yeah, thanks Theo! Love that attention to detail.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2008, 11:31 AM
This is a little overdue....I'm not sure if anyone here listens to the Official LOST Podcast, but I got around to listening to the final episode (prior to the finale) today.  Anyways, in the Q and A, they get on the subject of whether or not Stormtroopers think they are "bad guys" (in a question relating to the LOST baddies).  They discuss Star Wars for a bit, and its sort of funny.  Anyways, just wanted to pass it along for anyone interested.  Its a pretty good podcast overall to listen to anyways if you enjoy the show.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on June 19, 2008, 03:46 PM
Stormtroopers are loyal soldiers and don't think in terms of being good guys or bad guys. They do their job and not think twice about it.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on June 22, 2008, 11:23 PM
This is a little overdue....I'm not sure if anyone here listens to the Official LOST Podcast, but I got around to listening to the final episode (prior to the finale) today.  Anyways, in the Q and A, they get on the subject of whether or not Stormtroopers think they are "bad guys" (in a question relating to the LOST baddies).  They discuss Star Wars for a bit, and its sort of funny.  Anyways, just wanted to pass it along for anyone interested.  Its a pretty good podcast overall to listen to anyways if you enjoy the show.

Linky?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on June 23, 2008, 10:27 AM
I think its somewhere on the Official Site (http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=index) (its running really slowly for me right now), but I'm just subscribed through it in iTunes (search podcasts for LOST).
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on August 8, 2008, 04:45 PM
well i was lucky enough to get a dharma interview at sdcc. i passed and they gave me a member card. they said a new test would be up on Monday, but it's already like 2 weeks later and still nothing. maybe only new sign ups get a test right now.

if you want you can sign up http://www.dharmawantsyou.com

oh ya, a few pics from the booth

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Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on August 9, 2008, 09:22 PM
Too bad they couldn't find any smoking hotties to man the booth.   :o
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on October 23, 2008, 10:23 AM
Season 5 Trailer (http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/10/23/destiny-calls/)

Can't wait for this show to start up again.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on October 23, 2008, 11:01 AM
Is it January yet?

When's season 4 coming out on DVD?  I need to rewatch all the seasons before the new season begins.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on October 23, 2008, 11:12 AM
I'm pretty sure that Season 4 comes out on DVD on December 9th, if I'm remembering correctly.  I'm looking forward to catching up on last season again as well.  I've noticed that G4 has been replaying the previous seasons as well (I believe daily, but I haven't caught many of them yet), but I'm not sure where they are at right now.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on October 23, 2008, 12:01 PM
When does Lost come back on air? Feb?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on October 23, 2008, 12:57 PM
When does Lost come back on air? Feb?

Yeah ... I believe that it's February 4th.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on October 25, 2008, 04:18 PM
The new trailer has got me pumped up again.

They released the names of the first 6 episodes...only the sixth indicates who it is the main character is.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on October 25, 2008, 11:23 PM
The new trailer has got me pumped up again.

They released the names of the first 6 episodes...only the sixth indicates who it is the main character is.

What new trailer?!  ???
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on October 26, 2008, 08:58 AM
The new trailer has got me pumped up again.

They released the names of the first 6 episodes...only the sixth indicates who it is the main character is.

What new trailer?!  ???

Not a newer one, just that one that is linked above.

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on October 30, 2008, 04:01 PM
It looks like the first six episode titles (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/10/first-six-episode-titles.html) have been released...let the speculation begin, and the wait continue :).
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on October 31, 2008, 01:15 PM
Okay, THIS is the one I want to see NOW.  :-\

"Episode 5.06 - The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham"
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Ice on November 3, 2008, 10:35 PM
I have a question Im watching LOST on the SCi_FI channel. They are showing the episode about the tail section people.  Was Nathan part of Ben's group? He was one strange guy. they never said "for sure" if he was or was not.  Ok they just answered that ? . But I just love this episode now that we know a lot of the back story.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on November 4, 2008, 11:18 AM
I think we find out later that Nathan was one of Ben's group.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on December 10, 2008, 09:30 AM
New video up talking about the LOST book club (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWoNveEYH8Q).
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 10, 2008, 12:38 PM
I have a question Im watching LOST on the SCi_FI channel. They are showing the episode about the tail section people.  Was Nathan part of Ben's group? He was one strange guy. they never said "for sure" if he was or was not.  Ok they just answered that ? . But I just love this episode now that we know a lot of the back story.

Nathan on Lostpedia (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Nathan)

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 22, 2009, 05:32 AM
New Season started tonight and it looks pretty good so far.

I'm just trying to remember where I saw that old lady talking to Ben at the end of the episode.  It's been a while since I've thought about these characters.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on January 22, 2009, 08:09 AM
New Season started tonight and it looks pretty good so far.

I'm just trying to remember where I saw that old lady talking to Ben at the end of the episode.  It's been a while since I've thought about these characters.

She is the old woman who has the connection to Desmond when he went to buy the engagement ring.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 22, 2009, 09:19 AM
New Season started tonight and it looks pretty good so far.

I'm just trying to remember where I saw that old lady talking to Ben at the end of the episode.  It's been a while since I've thought about these characters.

She is the old woman who has the connection to Desmond when he went to buy the engagement ring.

Thank you.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 22, 2009, 03:47 PM
New Season started tonight and it looks pretty good so far.

I'm just trying to remember where I saw that old lady talking to Ben at the end of the episode.  It's been a while since I've thought about these characters.

She is the old woman who has the connection to Desmond when he went to buy the engagement ring.

Riiiiight!  Thanks!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: David on January 28, 2009, 07:13 PM
New Season started tonight and it looks pretty good so far.

I'm just trying to remember where I saw that old lady talking to Ben at the end of the episode.  It's been a while since I've thought about these characters.

She is the old woman who has the connection to Desmond when he went to buy the engagement ring.

Who? ???
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on January 29, 2009, 09:13 AM
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ms._Hawking (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ms._Hawking)

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on January 29, 2009, 10:23 AM
I loved LOST last night...  I always love the episodes that answer a bunch of questions, only to give us a whole new batch based on the answers.


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Widmore an other?  Crazy.  Widmore funding Faraday's crazy research and the girl who Faraday experimented on?  Crazy.  Giant H-Bomb on the island?  Crazy?  The Others Vs. The US Army?  Crazy.  And now I'm more sure than ever that Juliette knows a LOT more about the others/island than she reveals.

When the episode started to show us Penny and Desmond, I kept getting the sinking feeling that something bad was going to happen - i was so relieved to see the kid was OK 3 years later... but then I was worried all over again that something is going to happen to them with how Widmore reacted to seeing Desmond.  I forgot until that moment in the office that Ben told Widmore that he was going after Penny...  and now they are apparently headed to LA (where Ben is) to see Faraday's mom (who may or may not be the crazy Hawking lady working with Ben).

And speaking of the Hawking lady, in the pop-up repeat episode last night, we learned that Hawking's first name is "Eloise" (the same name as his time-travveling rat, lol).  Then, in the new episode, the fiesty girl who takes Faraday to the bomb... Richard called her "Ellie".  Is she a young Eloise Hawking?  And if Eloise Hawking is indeed Daniel's mom, then that means that he just met his own mom in the past.   :o

???

Next Wednesday can't come fast enough...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on January 29, 2009, 10:56 AM

And speaking of the Hawking lady, in the pop-up repeat episode last night, we learned that Hawking's first name is "Eloise" (the same name as his time-travveling rat, lol).  Then, in the new episode, the fiesty girl who takes Faraday to the bomb... Richard called her "Ellie".  Is she a young Eloise Hawking?  And if Eloise Hawking is indeed Daniel's mom, then that means that he just met his own mom in the past.   :o



And to further that ... I think that she left the island with Widmore and that he's Faraday's real father ... which may explain why he was funding Daniel's research.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: David on January 29, 2009, 02:56 PM
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ms._Hawking (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ms._Hawking)




Thanks. I guess I missed that episode.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on January 29, 2009, 04:15 PM

And speaking of the Hawking lady, in the pop-up repeat episode last night, we learned that Hawking's first name is "Eloise" (the same name as his time-travveling rat, lol).  Then, in the new episode, the fiesty girl who takes Faraday to the bomb... Richard called her "Ellie".  Is she a young Eloise Hawking?  And if Eloise Hawking is indeed Daniel's mom, then that means that he just met his own mom in the past.   :o



And to further that ... I think that she left the island with Widmore and that he's Faraday's real father ... which may explain why he was funding Daniel's research.

well holy ****.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on January 29, 2009, 05:53 PM
I'm glad you guys are playing so close attention so that you can keep me informed!!

BTW, loved last night's episode too.  When Robert said "Whitmore" my wife and just looked at each other and smiled.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on January 30, 2009, 12:07 AM
And speaking of the Hawking lady, in the pop-up repeat episode last night, we learned that Hawking's first name is "Eloise" (the same name as his time-travveling rat, lol).  Then, in the new episode, the fiesty girl who takes Faraday to the bomb... Richard called her "Ellie".  Is she a young Eloise Hawking?  And if Eloise Hawking is indeed Daniel's mom, then that means that he just met his own mom in the past.   :o


I didn't catch the names, but thought the same thing when he mentioned she looked familiar.  I'm still not sure I like the whole time travel bit, but we'll see how it plays out.  I'm wondering if Faraday's whole "the future can't change" shtick is for real. I bought that a few episodes back, but if that's true, how are people on the island (i.e. the extras who get blown up by the mine at the river" getting killed in the past?  I think Faraday just told everyone that, so that they wouldn't try to change things and possibly create a problem with the time-space continuum.  Keeping all that in mind, do you think Richard went to visit John Locke as a boy because of some other indicator that said he might be a good leader or because past-John told him when and where he would be born and Richard decided to check it out? 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on January 30, 2009, 09:45 AM
The other night was one of the better episodes in a while. I wasn't expecting that to be Widmore and just thought it was awesome. I am thinking the girl witht he gun, Ellie is the old woman Ben was talking to at the end of the season opener, who i also think is Daniel's mother. Hope that makes sense. Desmond episodes are the best.

On a side note, did anyone notice the painting in Widmore's office when Desmond went to see him? It was a painting of a polar bear with the word Namaste.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on January 30, 2009, 09:47 AM
Keeping all that in mind, do you think Richard went to visit John Locke as a boy because of some other indicator that said he might be a good leader or because past-John told him when and where he would be born and Richard decided to check it out? 

The latter.  That's why Richard showed the young John the compass that he had originally given to the old John (which Locke later returned to Richard in the past).
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: bamaker on January 30, 2009, 09:49 AM
I'm wondering if Faraday's whole "the future can't change" shtick is for real.

I've always wondered about that statement as well, going back to the show about Desmond's constant from last season.  

Desmond meets Faraday in the past at Oxford, and sees him transfer Eloise's (the rat) consciousness to the future where Faraday evidently trains it to run the maze.  This is demonstrated when Eloise successfully runs the maze.  Desmond blacks out and returns to the freighter.  Then Desmond returns to Faraday's office (and I get the impression that he was only blacked out for a few minutes, maybe an hour) and discovers that Eloise is dead.   Which means Faraday never actually had the chance to train her and so the FUTURE HAS BEEN CHANGED!!!  

Time travel stories almost always fall apart under any scrutiny, so I hope the LOST creators are very careful and don't try to make the whole focus of the show about time travel.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 5, 2009, 09:54 AM
Another good episode. Not surprised to see Jinn alive, his name has been in the credits.

I like how they referenced Miles may have been on the island beofre, so i still think he is Candle's son.

I think Ajira Airlines may be the company the Oceanic 6 take back to the island.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 5, 2009, 10:06 AM
***SPOILERS ABOUND***

I think Miles is definitely the son of the guy from the videos.  Seems like a perfect fit given that we know he had a kid and Faraday's comment about duration on the island.

Based on the island traveling through time, I'm starting to wonder about unexplained events much earlier in the series:

#1 - Remember when Charlie is strung up and left to die, but mysteriously gets loose?  I wonder if someone who is time-hopping sets him free.

#2 - Remember the two skeletons Jack found in the cave next to where they find fresh water?  Could that be someone from the plane who traveled way back in time?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on February 5, 2009, 10:38 AM
Another intriguing episode.  Didn't see the twist w/ Clair's mum comming.  I like the way the rescue brings Jinn back.  As soon as I Locke said something about speaking French, I immediately thought a Younger Rosseau. (Sp?). 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 5, 2009, 10:48 AM
We saw in last weeks episode Penny gives birth to a son and names him Charlie. Is it possible that this kid get stuck back in time and end up being drummer Charlie from the beginning of the show?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: iFett on February 5, 2009, 10:54 AM
We saw in last weeks episode Penny gives birth to a son and names him Charlie. Is it possible that this kid get stuck back in time and end up being drummer Charlie from the beginning of the show?

This is exactly why I don't watch this show.  Haven't they all been found - got off the island, and now need to go back or something?  ugh...too much for me.  Obviously has to be one of those shows you needed to start with the first ep or you're lost

I guess I shouldn't complain - I'll still be following Prison Break this Spring and they've already broken out of prison (twice)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 5, 2009, 10:59 AM
We saw in last weeks episode Penny gives birth to a son and names him Charlie. Is it possible that this kid get stuck back in time and end up being drummer Charlie from the beginning of the show?

Or how about the more logical explanation that Desmond named his son after Charlie out of respect? (and note it's Charlie, not Charles, aka Penny's father)

I know people love to throw out these crazy theories, especially with a show like Lost, but sometimes, the simplest explanation is the answer.  That's most likely the case here.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on February 5, 2009, 11:14 AM
We saw in last weeks episode Penny gives birth to a son and names him Charlie. Is it possible that this kid get stuck back in time and end up being drummer Charlie from the beginning of the show?

With this show, anything is possible.  Still ... I think that Desmond named his son after Charlie in honor of his death and sacrifice.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on February 5, 2009, 01:12 PM
Yeah, naming the kid after Charlie makes the most sense since Desmond and Charlie had a unique thing - in a funny sort of way, Desmond was able to "save" Charlie after all.

As for last night's episode, there were so many things happening again that it was just crazy - where did the strange boats come from?  Who was shooting at them?  How the heck is Jin (knew he wasn't dead) going to explain himself to Russo and the Frenchies (makes me want to go back to some of those episodes and see if Russo ever reacted/interacted with Jin in those eps)?


I'm loving this season so far - the off island stuff, the on-island stuff, time travel, time paradox, etc - this show is frickin' sweet.  :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 5, 2009, 04:08 PM
Well this season is about relationships. I just think it would be a great twist if Charlie was named after himself. No way would Penny name the kid after her father considering all the crap he put them thru.

This is the best season yet. Much better than Heroes. Definately not a show you can just jump into the middle of. Netflix the previous four seasons. It's a very different show now.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 6, 2009, 09:29 AM
I wondering where Rose and Bernard are.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 6, 2009, 11:23 AM
I wondering where Rose and Bernard are.

As a response to a post above about the skeletons with the black and white stones, i am betting they end up being Rose and Bernard.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 7, 2009, 09:46 PM
So anyone think Locke is Jacob? I think Locke got stuck outside his body becoming Jacob and the six need to get Locke's body back to the island so Jacob/Locke can become one again. This could be why Locke hear Jacob say "help me" inside the cabin in the last season.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 7, 2009, 10:26 PM
So anyone think Locke is Jacob? I think Locke got stuck outside his body becoming Jacob and the six need to get Locke's body back to the island so Jacob/Locke can become one again. This could be why Locke hear Jacob say "help me" inside the cabin in the last season.


Hmnn.  That's an interesting theory.  It's going to be hard to explain how his essence got trapped outside of body though.

Remember all those people from the plane that the others took?  Anyone have any theories on what that was all about?  I thought one of them mentioned to Sawyer that they were "there to watch," but watch what?  They didn't seem intent on escaping, getting back to the other castaways, or telling their "friends" what was going on.  For that matter, why were they really chosen over the others?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 8, 2009, 09:29 AM
The ones that were took lends credibility to Locke being Jacob. How else would someone know which ones need to be taken?  :o
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 8, 2009, 01:21 PM
So anyone think Locke is Jacob? I think Locke got stuck outside his body becoming Jacob and the six need to get Locke's body back to the island so Jacob/Locke can become one again. This could be why Locke hear Jacob say "help me" inside the cabin in the last season.


Hmnn.  That's an interesting theory.  It's going to be hard to explain how his essence got trapped outside of body though.

Well Tibetan monks are suppost to be able to leave their body via mediation. Maybe Locke learns to do the same thing?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 8, 2009, 09:43 PM
Well Tibetan monks are suppost to be able to leave their body via mediation. Maybe Locke learns to do the same thing?

I'm not saying it's not possible - I just think that's a big wrench to throw in the mix on top of everything else and pretty difficult to cover in the time they have left.  If he had started out as a tibetan monk, then maybe you'd have something there. 

My theory is that Locke isn't dead when we see him in the casket.  Nobody came to see the body except Jack and Ben, so I think Ben set this up to jerk Jack out of his funk.  Think about the darts that Sayid took - he looked just about dead, but was really just heavily sedated, so maybe Ben's been hit with the same stuff.  It's not like Jack took his pulse.  I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Oceanic 6 hop on a boat along with Desmond and find Ben alive and well on board.

Just some additional food for thought - Locke is posing as Jeremy Bentham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bentham).  The real Bentham's dead body was put on display with a wax head, so could be something similar going on here.  Maybe Locke never even leaves the island - Ben just pulls together a wax replica in a coffin to get his plan rolling.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on February 9, 2009, 10:57 PM
I'm not buying time hopping baby Charlie, but I WAS thinking...what if Miles is Candle.  Not Candle's son...Candle.  Go back and watch the filming of the orientation tapes...same attitude.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on February 10, 2009, 12:27 PM
***SPOILERS ABOUND***

I think Miles is definitely the son of the guy from the videos. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0adL4B-udM

That baby is definitely not Asian.

I'm sticking with Miles=Candle
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 10, 2009, 05:56 PM
I'm not buying time hopping baby Charlie, but I WAS thinking...what if Miles is Candle.  Not Candle's son...Candle.  Go back and watch the filming of the orientation tapes...same attitude.

The only problem there is that Candle talks with more of an accent than Miles.  I don't buy that it's the same guy and he developed more of an Asian accent as he got older.  It's easier to stomach that the baby should have just looked more Asian IMO. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 12, 2009, 08:19 AM
Another solid episode. This season has turned out to be pretty good so far. My biggest question from last night is what is so important in the temple that it needs to be guarded.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 12, 2009, 09:28 AM
When they were trying to keep that guy from getting pulled in, I kept saying to myself, just for once, I'd love to see the guys arm come off...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 12, 2009, 09:36 AM
....and it did!!!!  ;D

Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on February 12, 2009, 03:50 PM
I have to admit, I was happy to see Charlotte go.  She was an ok character, but she looked ******* nasty with all those nosebleeds and convulsions.  Was getting old.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 14, 2009, 02:29 AM
***SPOILERS ABOUND***

I think Miles is definitely the son of the guy from the videos. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0adL4B-udM

That baby is definitely not Asian.

I'm sticking with Miles=Candle

Put the bong down Name.  The baby's Asian.

I saw an Asian woman today with her baby and it looked very similar.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 14, 2009, 08:37 PM
Some may consider this a spoiler so if you don't like the epsiode titles don't look.







































Episode 5.13 - Some Like It Hoth

Have to love the star wars reference.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 16, 2009, 10:19 AM
Sure, but they best so far was "It's not my fault you fell for the Wookie prisoner gag."
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 19, 2009, 10:20 AM
Not a very good episode last night...felt like a big set up for next week which looks good.

Nice to see Frank back, i wasn't expecting that.

Poor Desmond...I think Ben killed Penny when he went off to make good on his promise. That will certainly get Desmond back to the island.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 19, 2009, 02:35 PM
Really?  I thought it was one fantastic episode.  The hour felt like 20 minutes.  And like typical Lost fashion, it answered questions and then throws some more at you.  Why did Hurley and Sayid decide to go back and why was Sayid in handcuffs?  What happened to Aaron?  Who beat the **** out of Ben?

Plus it brought the humor - two classics from Ben "Who cares" and "My mother" and Lapides stating "I take it we're not going to Guam".  Not overly funny by themselves, but the deliveries made them great. 

This show is firing on all cylinders right now and I look forward to a new episode every week. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 19, 2009, 05:43 PM
Really?  I thought it was one fantastic episode.  The hour felt like 20 minutes.  And like typical Lost fashion, it answered questions and then throws some more at you.  Why did Hurley and Sayid decide to go back and why was Sayid in handcuffs?  What happened to Aaron?  Who beat the **** out of Ben?

Plus it brought the humor - two classics from Ben "Who cares" and "My mother" and Lapides stating "I take it we're not going to Guam".  Not overly funny by themselves, but the deliveries made them great. 

This show is firing on all cylinders right now and I look forward to a new episode every week. 

I agree, I loved the episode as well.  Definitely looking forward to next week's as well.  I liked the moments you highlighted there too Mikey, good stuff.  When Lapides came over the intercom in the plane, it was sort of an "aw cool" moment as well.  It will be interesting to see where the rest of the passengers ended up, since we've just seen Jack/Kate/Hurley so far.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 20, 2009, 09:37 AM
Who was the extra asian dude on the plane?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 20, 2009, 10:40 AM
Who was the extra asian dude on the plane?

No idea.  Love this show - I have so many more questions than before.  Why did the others decided to get on the plane and why are they pretty unhappy about it?  What happened with Aaron? Did Ben kill Penny?  Why is Sun working for Dharma int he past?  Why was Dharma looking for an island if no one had been there before?The only bad thing about last night's episode was no Faraday.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 24, 2009, 09:37 AM
Nice to see Frank back, i wasn't expecting that.


Really? As soon as they said they had to fly back, I thought it was pretty obvious that Frank was going to be the pilot.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 24, 2009, 02:05 PM
Nice to see Frank back, i wasn't expecting that.


Really? As soon as they said they had to fly back, I thought it was pretty obvious that Frank was going to be the pilot.

I just wasn't thinking of him...kind of left my mind.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 26, 2009, 12:40 AM
So.  It looks like Sun, Frank, Locke, Ben and the plane crashed on the Island in the "present".

Jack, Kate and Hurley are trapped in the 70's at the height of the Dharma initiative with Jinn, Faraday and the rest of the ones who stayed on the Island.

I now have no clue whose the good guy or the bad guy between Ben and Widmore...they probably are both evil.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 26, 2009, 08:17 AM
Much better than last week, like i was expecting. Part of me thinks widmore is the good guy but i think it all comes down to point of view. I called the Ben Locke incident, wont be specific if anyone has not watched yet.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 27, 2009, 02:21 PM
I think Ben is my favorite character, hands down.  I like to think he's benevolent, but I just don't know!  The Locke incident throws a new spin on it, but it could still be with him knowing the eventual outcome (John being ok).  Did he decide to do that because he heard Faraday's mom's name?  It seems like that's what prompted him to action.  By the way, the actress who plays Faraday's mom was Mace and Cindel's mom in Ewoks: Caravan of Courage.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 27, 2009, 03:07 PM
Hearing her name really did seem to set him off. Maybe he thought he was the only one with knowledge about her...not sure. As he was leaving his apology did seem sincere as if he really didn't want to do it.

He is a great character and Emerson plays him great. He is probably my second favorite character to Desmond.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 27, 2009, 10:09 PM
So.  It looks like Sun, Frank, Locke, Ben and the plane crashed on the Island in the "present".

I'm personally having a tough time remembering "when" everyone is, but why do assume that the plane crashed in the present versus the past?  Ben's crew doesn't seem to have run into anyone yet, have they?

I have a question about the boats that are on the beach.  Sawyer's team finds them on the beach in the ruins of their camp, right?  Ben's team seems to have also found them, but he's on the other island, right?  Any theories on where these came from or who is using them?  Since "things" seems to move through time with the castaways, I wonder if Ben's team is in the past with Jack's group, but takes the boats to the other island when the island moves through time.  That would move the boats into the future where Sawyer found them.  Also, I didn't get a good look at them, but is this the same type of boat that Alex gives to Kate & Sawyer when they're escaping from the others?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 28, 2009, 12:06 AM
So.  It looks like Sun, Frank, Locke, Ben and the plane crashed on the Island in the "present".

I'm personally having a tough time remembering "when" everyone is, but why do assume that the plane crashed in the present versus the past?  Ben's crew doesn't seem to have run into anyone yet, have they?

Just playing a hunch.  Jack, Kate and Hurley disappeared from the plane before the crash which leads me to believe that they're in another time.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Famine on March 1, 2009, 02:54 AM
So.  It looks like Sun, Frank, Locke, Ben and the plane crashed on the Island in the "present".

I'm personally having a tough time remembering "when" everyone is, but why do assume that the plane crashed in the present versus the past?  Ben's crew doesn't seem to have run into anyone yet, have they?

Just playing a hunch.  Jack, Kate and Hurley disappeared from the plane before the crash which leads me to believe that they're in another time.

Not to mention the hispanic and span Dharma Van, and neatly pressed uniform.

Kevin
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on March 28, 2009, 09:44 AM
Anyone else think Lost kind of sucked the last 2 weeks?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on March 28, 2009, 12:03 PM
No. I like the Dhrama plot and the young Ben. He looks like Harry Potter. So I guess we have a huge paradox with young Ben getting shot. Of course, Ben has been shot before.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on March 28, 2009, 09:05 PM
Anyone else think Lost kind of sucked the last 2 weeks?

Nope.  Lost has never sucked.  There are episodes that aren't as great as others, but even on a bad day, Lost is better than anything else on television right now.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 29, 2009, 12:12 PM
I know that Ben was older when he killed his dad, but when he helped Sayed escape, didn't he say, in regards to his dad beating him "I really hated him."? I thought I miss-heard, but then again, this is Lost.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on March 29, 2009, 07:26 PM
So would Ben be immortal after he killed his father and joined Richard's group?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: CorranHorn on April 18, 2009, 08:23 PM
After this week's episode I checked my various copies and sure enough Hugo Reyes is credited for the screenplay for The Empire Strikes Back. The man is a GENIUS!! :D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on April 19, 2009, 01:44 AM
After this week's episode I checked my various copies and sure enough Hugo Reyes is credited for the screenplay for The Empire Strikes Back. The man is a GENIUS!! :D

That whole part of the show was hilarious - well done Hugo!  I wonder what "improvements" he would have made?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 19, 2009, 10:17 AM
I think he was referring to the whole father/son bit, as related to Miles and to avoid the need for Return of the Jedi.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on April 30, 2009, 10:00 AM
Quite an episode again last night, this season has been very good I think.  I liked the little Star Trek preview they had towards the beginning as well.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on April 30, 2009, 10:51 AM
I loved last night's episode - sad about the way it ended, but I totally saw it coming after his little speech to Jack about dying.   :-\

My other favorite part about last night was the bit about FINALLY explaining what the deal was with the numbers and the hatch.  Now we know why they had to push those buttons, it was neat to see that plot hole filled in.  Makes me anxious for the upcoming episodes to see if we get to see "the incident" and "the purge" happen or if they can actually change things somehow...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on May 7, 2009, 02:13 AM
Might Be SPOILER if you didn't see tonights episode "Follow the Leader"

oooooo!!!! :) nice i cannot wait for the finale next week. Another good season almost over. Wow the last season finale before the final season. exciting :)

Man right off the bat they got me wondering if it's has to be the way that richard said when he was talking about Jack, kate, hugo, etc being killed in front of him. Can things really be changed?

Before they went to commercial i thought kate got shot, then saiyd shot the guy. i guess i was mistaken that kate was just reacting to the gunshot sound.

They kinda spoiled it right off the bat that the sub must end up right back at the island in the teaser for next week.

wow locke wants to kill jacob and wants everyone to see it. crazy. yeah cant wait to see what happens.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: John C on May 12, 2009, 07:08 PM
I'm going to guess Jack and the group cause the event that makes the hatch necessary.  It will probably also be how they get back to the present.  Richard will probably see them disappear and think they died.  Or I could be way off.  Part of the fun of this show is the speculation.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 12, 2009, 10:28 PM
I'm going to guess Jack and the group cause the event that makes the hatch necessary.  It will probably also be how they get back to the present.  Richard will probably see them disappear and think they died.  Or I could be way off.  Part of the fun of this show is the speculation.

I have absolutely no idea what they are going to do next on this show, and that's what I love about it.  Any speculation on how Locke knows so much about the island now that he's back?  That and finding out how the hell Richard never ages are my favorite mysteries right now...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 14, 2009, 01:54 AM
**** me!  We have to wait until February?!   >:(
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Theo Zissou on May 14, 2009, 03:14 AM
oh man :/ well yeah i called someone was gonna go, but that was harsh. i really didn't expect Juliet  :'( Man that had me all   :'(

Miles is right. No matter which way they try to think around it. It is what it is. no way to change what happened.

Well It looks like the Jacob and the other guy that ended up posing as Locke(who must really be "dead is dead") is behind the war to come and what lies in the shadow of the statue. The locke poser was in the beginning when the black rock first showed up at the island.

The Jacob moments were cool since it gave them a reason to see alot of scenes characters talked about before.

But aww. :( yep 8 months. well can't wait to hear what they have to say at sdcc this year. hopefully something big, like alot of the cast since this is the last sdcc before the end of the series.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 14, 2009, 10:23 AM
Great finale. I knew it was Locke in the box, but that's only because one can start trying to guess on the premiss of what's the most bizarre thing you can do. Very cool. Now to try to figure out if the explosion disrupted or set the time established line.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on May 14, 2009, 11:48 AM
By the way ... Richard's answer to the question about what resides in the shadow of the statue:

"He who will protect/save us all.”
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 15, 2009, 10:28 AM
Thanks Neal. He was speaking Latin?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 15, 2009, 06:48 PM
Yes...she also referred to Richard as Ricardus, which would mean he's been there since the time of Rome.

Remeber Juliet also said that all the others are fluent in Latin.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: John C on May 16, 2009, 10:43 AM
Great finale.  Jacob is now my favorite character.  I hope we see more of him. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 17, 2009, 10:51 AM
Yes...she also referred to Richard as Ricardus, which would mean he's been there since the time of Rome.

Remeber Juliet also said that all the others are fluent in Latin.

Cool. Now the question is, was he pronouncing the Latin at it was original spoken, or using the modern, incorrect, accent?  ;)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 17, 2009, 03:18 PM
I took Latin in high school and it sounded like he was speaking it properly.

I've also been to a couple of Catholic masses done in latin and it sounded similar.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 17, 2009, 05:04 PM
I wonder if anyone ever thought that maybe Miles is right. That setting off the bomb causes the problem and doesn't get rid of it? Somehow since we have an another season that the bomb made things worst.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 17, 2009, 05:34 PM
I'm not so sure about that.  My theory is that Jacob is God and the other one trying to kill him is the Devil.  The Devil put a plan in motion where he was able to manipulate everyone so he could get Ben into the base of the statue to kill Jacob.

However, Jacob went through the world and touched the lives of the people he would need to fix things and save himself.

Damn, it's going to be a long wait until February!   >:(
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 18, 2009, 10:26 AM
I took Latin in high school and it sounded like he was speaking it properly.

I've also been to a couple of Catholic masses done in latin and it sounded similar.

That's the modern accent then. Nobody ever goes for the original pronunciation.  :P
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 18, 2009, 10:52 PM
Just put an Italian accent on it...end it with Aht's-a-matta-wit-you, and you're golden!   :D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 18, 2009, 11:31 PM
I'm not so sure about that.  My theory is that Jacob is God and the other one trying to kill him is the Devil.  The Devil put a plan in motion where he was able to manipulate everyone so he could get Ben into the base of the statue to kill Jacob.

However, Jacob went through the world and touched the lives of the people he would need to fix things and save himself.

Damn, it's going to be a long wait until February!   >:(

That's pretty much my theory on this as well, though I'm not sure that it's God and the Devil.  I thought the statue looked kind of Egyptian, so maybe two different "Gods" or immortals or something.  It seemed to me like he was there for very pivotal times in everyone's lives that helped shape who they become (influencing Kate's morals, Helping Sawyer write his letter and influencing his "Done is Done" philosophy, etc.)  The only interaction I thought was strange was the talk with Jack.  It didn't seem like he did anything other than get him a candy bar, but maybe I missed something, or maybe Jack was already on the right path?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Straxus on May 19, 2009, 12:41 AM
I think the statue is of Sobek

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek

Though still trying to find a connection...

My theory still stands the island is Mu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 19, 2009, 12:55 AM
That's pretty interesting...

"Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done, rather than a force for good in itself, for example, going to Duat to restore damage done to the dead as a result of their form of death. He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part."
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 19, 2009, 01:24 AM
Good call on the Egyptian twist...I threw God and the Devil out there, but it could most definitely be two opposing Egyptian gods.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on February 1, 2010, 10:58 PM
I am trying so hard right now to NOT watch the leaked premiere online and to NOT troll for spoilers...   :-X

Can't wait until tomorrow to see if Juliet really did reset time.   :D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: efranks on February 1, 2010, 11:23 PM
I can not be less interesed in this series at this point in time.  I just want the answers and for it to be done with...but I don't really want to have to watch it.

   E...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: IncomT65 on February 2, 2010, 07:21 AM
Over here season 6 starts next Friday, only a couple of days behind you guys, then  ;D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 2, 2010, 08:36 PM
I'm excitied to see how it will all end.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 2, 2010, 09:27 PM
Okay, 30 min and I'm even more confused thanlast season.  I love this show.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 3, 2010, 12:25 AM
WTF?  How can they all be in two places at once?

Nice to see Desmond and Charlie though.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 3, 2010, 01:33 AM
WTF?  How can they all be in two places at once?

Nice to see Desmond and Charlie though.

I think one is a flash forward or flash backward.  Maybe the version of them on the plane is the end of the show, assuming they find a way to reset everything?  It also just ocurred to me tonight that the dude impersonating Locke must be the guy who takes mystery forms on the island (Jack's dead dad, Echo's dead brother, Kate's horse, etc.)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 3, 2010, 08:14 AM

I think one is a flash forward or flash backward.  Maybe the version of them on the plane is the end of the show, assuming they find a way to reset everything? 

I don't think so.  I believe the producers said that the "gimmick" this season hasn't been seen before, so no flashbacks, flashforwards or time travel.  It seems like there's two timelines, similar to the multiverse in DC Comics.  The two timelines are very similar up until the time of the plane crash, but there are minute changes, ie, Desmond wasn't on the original plane and the passengers were sitting in different seats - Rose & Bernard didn't sit next to each other on the original 815 flight & I don't believe Sawyer & Hurley and Locke & Boone did either.  And more than once, Jack had a look of deja vu on the plane, likes he's been there before.  That could a slight merge of the two Jacks or something similar (the scene in the plane bathroom with Jack looking in the mirror is a subtle clue).  And dead Juliet (more on that later) told Miles that "it worked".  It didn't work for one timeline (the island) but it did for another.

I think we'll continue to see the crash timeline passengers and non-crash timeline passengers and how it affects them.  Some of the passengers are better off when the plane crashed (Locke, Kate, Sawyer, Sun & Jin) and some are better off when the plane landed (Jack, Hurley, maybe Sayid and Rose & Bernard - we don't know if she has cancer in the new timeline or not yet).  I'm looking forward to how the two timelines merge and the final end result.

Pissed that Juliet died, I'm going to miss her boobies.  At least she can go on fighting reptile aliens disguised as humans and worrying about her teenage son banging alien hotties.


Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 3, 2010, 09:45 AM
Pissed that Juliet died, I'm going to miss her boobies.  At least she can go on fighting reptile aliens disguised as humans and worrying about her teenage son banging alien hotties.


Don't forget about Charlie playing the bad guy on FlashForward.  ;)

Personally, I would have loved to see Charlie recognize Jack on the plane and tell him its not Penny's boat. That would have been too trippy.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on February 3, 2010, 10:07 AM
It also just ocurred to me tonight that the dude impersonating Locke must be the guy who takes mystery forms on the island (Jack's dead dad, Echo's dead brother, Kate's horse, etc.)

And, I think it was pretty clear after last night, that he's also smokey too... which is awesome.

It seems like there's two timelines, similar to the multiverse in DC Comics. 

Yeah, it's definitely more of a "flash sideways" thing going on with two distinct timelines.

When they nuked the pocket, it caused some sort of divergent timeline, which appears to have a lot of different subtle changes from the original...
- the island is now on the ocean floor
- without the island/swan station, Desmond's boat apparently never crashed there - did he make it back to Penny in this timeline?
- people sitting in different spots on the plane
- Shannon staying in Australia instead of going on the plane
- where's Mr. Eko, Libby, AnnaLucia?  Not on the plane anymore?
- and, from the video they showed at SDCC, Kate killed a different guy in that explosion that she was arrested for, not her mom's BF


Definitely looking forward to seeing if this "additional" timeline will somehow merge with the island one or if it wll somehow replace "our" existing timeline.

Oh, and I do have to say that the MIB/FakeLocke/Smokey was a bad-ass - killing Jacob's bodyguards and then punking Richard and dragging him off... not to mention the temple (finally the "taken" people plot point comes back) and all the stuff that happened with Sayd (dead/alive).  I really can't wait to see what happens next when smokey comes calling.  :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darby on February 3, 2010, 10:18 AM
I really enjoyed it last night (for the first time in a long time it was more than just interesting), and I agree, there's two timelines. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 3, 2010, 10:20 AM
EW (http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/02/lost-premiere-damon-carlton/) has a small Q and A with Cuse/Lindelof and they discuss a number of things from the premiere.  Like it was already said here, this is more of a "flash sideways", and there are two realities at work here.  They do go out of their way to say that neither is an "alternate reality", because that makes it sound like one is more real than the other, which isn't the case.  They were also on Kimmel last night, and did a round of "is this a coincidence?" which revealed a little bit as well.  They noted the subtle differences (some already mentioned here), like that Jack is the nervous flier this time around and Rose is the calm one (previously the other way around).  They also said that the fact that Shannon was not on the plane was not a coincidence, but the fact that Desmond disappeared once Charlie appeared was a coincidence.  Kimmel also put a theory out there that Jacob had possessed Sayid's body at the end, but they of course wouldn't confirm or deny that at all :).

All in all, I'm still loving this show.  Sure, it can be as confusing as hell sometimes, but I think it is part of the fun.  It is sad that it is coming to a close, but at the same time I'm really enjoying the ride to the end.  I really enjoyed Fake Locke as well, he sure is a bad ass.  The revelation that he is "smokey" as well was pretty cool.  Can't wait for next week.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 3, 2010, 10:39 AM
I agree with the bad ass Man in Black / Faux Locke / Smokey comments.  They should just give Terry O'Quinn the Emmy now.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 3, 2010, 12:00 PM
Without the island/swan station, Desmond's boat apparently never crashed there - did he make it back to Penny in this timeline?

What's odd about all of that is that Desmond shouldn't have been on the plane regardless.  That's one heck of a coincidence that he never made it to the island and then ended up on the exact same flight as everyone else.  I'd almost guess that he did his time travel trick to get on the flight, but it didn't seem like he was working towards any real purpose - at least not anyhting they let on to. 

- people sitting in different spots on the plane
- Shannon staying in Australia instead of going on the plane
- where's Mr. Eko, Libby, AnnaLucia?  Not on the plane anymore?

I didn't notice they were in different spots - good catch!  Was it everyone or who did you notice specifically?  I thought about the "Tailies" we didn't see as well, but figured they were in the aft section and that's why we missed 'em.

Oh, and I do have to say that the MIB/FakeLocke/Smokey was a bad-ass - killing Jacob's bodyguards and then punking Richard and dragging him off... not to mention the temple (finally the "taken" people plot point comes back) and all the stuff that happened with Sayd (dead/alive).  I really can't wait to see what happens next when smokey comes calling.  :)

Amen to that - O'quinn makes a pretty scary bad guy.  Interesting to note that in the interview on Jimmy Kimmel last night, the writers said something has possessed Sayid, but possibly not Jacob...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on February 3, 2010, 12:08 PM
What's odd about all of that is that Desmond shouldn't have been on the plane regardless. That's one heck of a coincidence that he never made it to the island and then ended up on the exact same flight as everyone else.

We only have a small bit of info, so we have no idea how/why Des ended up on the plane... but I think that's sort of the point that he did.  Even if you change time with some drastic event, these characters still have some sort of destiny to be tied together - Jack still meets Locke, Jack meets Sayid, Locke meets Boone, Kate meets Saywer, Kate meets Claire, etc.

Maybe instead of Jack/Desmond first meeting at that stadium while running, this was the way fate introduced them?  Just have to sit back and enjoy the ride until we get some more info...
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on February 3, 2010, 12:45 PM
What's odd about all of that is that Desmond shouldn't have been on the plane regardless. That's one heck of a coincidence that he never made it to the island and then ended up on the exact same flight as everyone else.

We only have a small bit of info, so we have no idea how/why Des ended up on the plane... but I think that's sort of the point that he did.  Even if you change time with some drastic event, these characters still have some sort of destiny to be tied together - Jack still meets Locke, Jack meets Sayid, Locke meets Boone, Kate meets Saywer, Kate meets Claire, etc.

Maybe instead of Jack/Desmond first meeting at that stadium while running, this was the way fate introduced them?  Just have to sit back and enjoy the ride until we get some more info...

Interesting - I was thinking they had already met at the stadium and that's why Jack thought Des looked familiar.  I hope there is something more in store for their destiny other than they would have met no matter what.  Seems like a 5 minute meeting in an elevator or on the plane is a big change from the much more involced relationships on the island.  I'm starting to get nervous about the wrters' ability to tie all this up to my satisfaction with just one season left.   :-\  Like you said - guess we have to just sit back and enjoy the ride!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on February 3, 2010, 05:04 PM
What was up with voodooish, holy groundish dirt trick to keep Smokey at bay? 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 3, 2010, 05:13 PM
It's suppost to act as a shield. Kind of like trapping a demon with a circle of salt. They can't cross it. Didn't work very well for the bodyguards though. Bad Locke just brought debris down on top of them instead.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 3, 2010, 06:02 PM
That's what I thought too (with the black ash).  Wasn't there a similar circle around Jacob's cabin as well?  Guess that explains that.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on February 3, 2010, 10:43 PM
That's what I thought too (with the black ash).  Wasn't there a similar circle around Jacob's cabin as well?  Guess that explains that.

That's RIGHT!  Totally forgot that.  I got the protection, I just thought it was weird thing to introduce...turns out it was already established.

So, dirt and sonic fences keep smokey at bay.  got it.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 4, 2010, 07:24 AM
Remember last year when Ilana and Jacob's bodyguards went to the cabin and there was a break in the ash?  We've always assumed Jacob was in the cabin, but what if it was MIB / Flocke / Smoky all along and the ash was keeping him in the cabin and not out.  That means Flocke's plan and his quest for the loophole goes back much further than we've thought and he's been manipulating Ben since Ben became aware of Jacob, not knowing Jacob was in fact Flocke.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on February 4, 2010, 09:30 AM
Remember last year when Ilana and Jacob's bodyguards went to the cabin and there was a break in the ash?  We've always assumed Jacob was in the cabin, but what if it was MIB / Flocke / Smoky all along and the ash was keeping him in the cabin and not out.  That means Flocke's plan and his quest for the loophole goes back much further than we've thought and he's been manipulating Ben since Ben became aware of Jacob, not knowing Jacob was in fact Flocke.

I thought about that as well, but we've seen the smoke monster all over the island.  If the "man in black" is indeed the smoke monster, then he couldn't have been trapped in the cabin.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 4, 2010, 10:24 AM

I thought about that as well, but we've seen the smoke monster all over the island.  If the "man in black" is indeed the smoke monster, then he couldn't have been trapped in the cabin.

But we don't know when the ash line was broken.  The earliest appearance of Smokey chronologically that we know of is when he ****** up Rousseau's shipmates in the mid to late eighties.  We know Ben was fully entrenched with the Others then because he stole Alex as a baby shortly after.  My guess is Flocke, posing as Jacob, somehow duped Ben into breaking the ash line shortly before Rousseau and crew became shipwrecked.  That first attack was pretty brutal (the whole ripping the arm from the socket) from what the audience has seen previously with Smokey.  Being couped up in a cabin for hundreds of years would probably drive even gods a bit nuts, don't ya think?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on February 4, 2010, 10:52 AM
I'm glad I've got you guys here to help sort this show out for me.   ;D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jeff on February 4, 2010, 12:22 PM
My guess is Flocke, posing as Jacob, somehow duped Ben into breaking the ash line shortly before Rousseau and crew became shipwrecked. 

I may be wrong, but I thought the ash circle was still intact when Ben brought Locke to the cabin to meet "Jacob" the first time?  I think I remember seeing Ben carefully step over the ash way back then...  may have to dig out the DVDs and rewatch that episode now.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on February 4, 2010, 12:39 PM

I thought about that as well, but we've seen the smoke monster all over the island.  If the "man in black" is indeed the smoke monster, then he couldn't have been trapped in the cabin.

But we don't know when the ash line was broken.  The earliest appearance of Smokey chronologically that we know of is when he ****** up Rousseau's shipmates in the mid to late eighties. 

Dharma had a working sonic fence constructed before Ben arrived and throughout his childhood on the island, so Smokey must have been active at that time.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 4, 2010, 01:13 PM
Think of it this way, an ash line can keep something in as well as keep something out. I think it would work just as well on Jacob as it would on Smokey.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: John C on February 4, 2010, 01:26 PM
I liked how Hurley is lucky and not cursed in the LA X universe.  Makes sense that Desmond is on that plane.  The island is at the bottom of the sea and Penny probably never was born if Widmore was on the island when it went down.  And speaking of nice boobies, Penny is also on Flash Forward and looking good there. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Mikey D on February 4, 2010, 01:31 PM
After careful consideration, I retract all that I said about Smokey and the cabin.  After reading up on Smokie (http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Smoke_monster) on Lostpedia, my theory is full of ****.  Damn, I've forgotten a lot of the minor details from previous seasons.  The only way my theory would work now is if both Flocke and Jacob are smoke monsters (but I doubt that's the case).
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: BrentS on February 4, 2010, 03:02 PM
  The only way my theory would work now is if both Flocke and Jacob are smoke monsters (but I doubt that's the case).

Hmm, I wonder, why couldn't that work?  Doesn't Ben call out to get Jacob to "help" and the smoke monster appears?  Maybe that's part of the loophole in that smoke monsters can't kill each other?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: IncomT65 on February 7, 2010, 02:24 PM
Yes, the greatest TV show ever is back and I'm quite literally lost myself now  ;D I love it! That chick with the Japanese guy's gang, isn't that the stewardess on the parallel universe's airplane?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Darby on February 7, 2010, 02:52 PM
She was actually on the original plane as well.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 12, 2010, 01:58 AM
I am digging Dogen and the real life Dogen actually wrote a book with Dharma in the title.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 8, 2010, 01:47 AM
Last night's episode was epic!!!  I really likie that Desmond is back and it looks like he actually knows the role he needs to play.

I still think Jack will be Jacob's replacement though.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on May 5, 2010, 02:22 PM
So what did everyone think of last night's episode?  I won't post much about it in case some haven't gotten a chance to watch it, but definitely some big things going on....the episodes really seem to be moving at a quick pace now towards the end, and I don't feel like any week's show is "wasted" at all treading water.  More shows should pick their own end date like this, although I'm going to miss the heck out of LOST when it is gone.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 5, 2010, 04:12 PM
It looks like Hurly is going to rule the island and Desmond can merge the two universes back together again. Very sad what happen to Jin and Sun.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: IncomT65 on May 5, 2010, 04:44 PM
More shows should pick their own end date like this, although I'm going to miss the heck out of LOST when it is gone.

I agree with you. Lost is hugely succesful and popular. I think it's great that the creators have decided when to call it quits, instead of taking the easy path and continuing the series just for the sake of cashing in. But yeah, I'll definitely gonna miss my Lost hour every Friday night  :)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 6, 2010, 12:24 AM
It looks like Hurly is going to rule the island and Desmond can merge the two universes back together again. Very sad what happen to Jin and Sun.

My prediction: Jack stays on the Island with "Locke"...with the way their two characters were at odds through the entire series it seems to fit.

Desmond will merge the two realities so Sun, Jinn, Charlie and even Penny's half-brother will still be alive.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 6, 2010, 11:07 AM
The way I see it is Kate and Sawyer stay together. Jake and Clare end up together as family. That leaves Hurley to torcher fake Lock forever.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: John C on May 7, 2010, 12:08 PM
I have no idea WTF will happen but I am enjoying the ride.  Glad to hear the final episode will be an extra 30 minutes longer.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Rob on May 7, 2010, 06:19 PM
Glad to hear the final episode will be an extra 30 minutes longer.


I'm going to be out of the country.   :'(
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 7, 2010, 10:18 PM
Should be on ABC.com or something, Rob.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: John C on May 12, 2010, 10:08 AM
Glad they finally tied up the Adam and Eve issue.  Solid episode last night.  Brothers, huh?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on May 12, 2010, 01:21 PM
so that kind of explained smokey, but kind on not so much.  still have questions.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 14, 2010, 02:03 PM
so that kind of explained smokey, but kind on not so much.  still have questions.

I think they explained it pretty well, but yeah, why is there a "leftover" body?  They did answer a couple of big questions though, so I liked it.  Would have been nice to know a little bit more about the old woman - she obviously had some powers of her own.

One thing I don't get - SPOILER ALERT - didn't she say the brothers couldn't hurt each other?  Sure seemed like Jacob had plenty of ability to hurt his brother.   ???
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 15, 2010, 03:08 PM
I think they cannot kill each other.  Obviously Jacob sending his brother into "the light" did not kill him but turned him into something else.  Also that's why Ol' Smokey had to manipulate Linus into killing Jacob.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 15, 2010, 03:49 PM
I think they cannot kill each other.  Obviously Jacob sending his brother into "the light" did not kill him but turned him into something else.  Also that's why Ol' Smokey had to manipulate Linus into killing Jacob.

I think so too, but she definitely said they could not "hurt" each other, which seems off.  Too bad she didn't just let the man in black leave before he became smokey. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: McMetal on May 19, 2010, 10:26 AM

My prediction: Jack stays on the Island with "Locke"...with the way their two characters were at odds through the entire series it seems to fit.

Desmond will merge the two realities so Sun, Jinn, Charlie and even Penny's half-brother will still be alive.

Good call. Jack is the most tragic character on the show, IMO...fitting he would be the one to take over for Jacob.

Far and away, my favorite thing from last night was FINALLY seeing that upptiy Widmore b*tch got her throat cut. MY GOD, what an annoying little weasel she was. Glad to see Widmore catch a few in the chest too - good riddance.

Where is Des though? How is he the failsafe exactly? And why would Ben stick with Locke, especially after he told him he would give him the island but later contradicts himself by admitting he is going to destroy it?  ::)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: John C on May 20, 2010, 11:32 AM
IMO Desmond will either kill or trap Smokey somehow because of his immunity to E/M energy.  I wouldn't be shocked if Jack gets killed and Desmond becomes the island protector, either.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: McMetal on May 20, 2010, 03:34 PM
Hmmm, maybe they'll revisit the Frozen Donkey Wheel?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 20, 2010, 06:31 PM
Wasn't the Donkey wheel the thing that Jacob's brother was building to get off the island? Did Jacob finish the project for his brother?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: McMetal on May 21, 2010, 11:21 AM
Wasn't the Donkey wheel the thing that Jacob's brother was building to get off the island? Did Jacob finish the project for his brother?

Yes, it's unclear who finished it though. If I recall, it was actually Esau (Man In Black) who advised John to turn the wheel a few seasons back, albeit disguised as Jack's Dad. You have to think at least Jacob knew about it...

I saw another ad last night for the finale that clearly showed the wheel being turned, so I'm thinking we'll see it again.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Ghost of QG on May 23, 2010, 11:37 PM
Liked the finale, but understand why some wouldn't . Goodbye Oceanic 815. You'll be missed....
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: efranks on May 24, 2010, 12:28 AM
God damn it.  I don't ******* get it and that pisses me off.  They couldn't even give us a straight answer at the end?

LMK when it's okay to start asking questions without worrying about spoilers.

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Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 24, 2010, 01:32 AM
I thought they did a good job overall.  Was glad to see Vincent.   :D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: IncomT65 on May 24, 2010, 03:22 AM
Hold on, then, we're seeing the finale coming Friday  ;D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on May 24, 2010, 10:32 AM
Our local Cinema Grill had a live showing on the big screen last night.  Very cool to see it in a theater setting.  I liked the ending, though not exactly what I was hoping for.  I thought it was kind of sad the way things worked out, but wasn't expecting any bigger revelations than what we got.  There were some great funny parts towards the end as well.  I will definitely miss this show.   :-\
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on May 24, 2010, 10:44 AM
i have never watched a single episode of Lost - so I didn't watch last night.

I plan on watching the series, soon perhaps, as I have it all available to me to watch. 

Anyway - I am posting because I couldn't listen to my daily, before work fix of Bob & Tom.  They wouldn't stop talking about it.

Same thing will be said for 24 - except I have watched the whole series up until this season - I haven't seen a single episode yet this year - so I imagine I won't be able to listen to the radio tomorrow either...

and I am not reading anything in this thread (or the 24 thread), nor will I come back to see if anyone responds -  ;D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: John C on May 24, 2010, 11:09 AM
Good ending.  It did make sense, even if we didn't have everything explained.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: efranks on May 24, 2010, 11:19 PM
I read a re-cap of last night's finale and I can see where the flash sideways fits into the whole thing...if the blog writer's interpretation is accurate.  It made more sense to me at least, that what I was thinking.

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Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 25, 2010, 08:49 AM
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Right around that sharp downward slope on season 3, where the bulk of people who abandoned the show left apparently, I stopped watching on a regular basis.

I did watch the finale though.  Just to make sure here, there is no solid proof-positive explanation of what we saw, right?  There is still some speculation as to whether....


SPOILER



they all died at the initial crash, or some of them actually made it off the island on the plane in the last episode?


I know there's no question that Jack didn't make it off.  I think.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Neal on May 25, 2010, 09:58 AM

SPOILER



they all died at the initial crash, or some of them actually made it off the island on the plane in the last episode?




If you pay attention to what Christian says at the end, there's isn't really a question.  Plus, Matthew Fox confirmed what happened later that night on Jimmy Kimmel Live.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: name on May 25, 2010, 10:13 AM

SPOILER



they all died at the initial crash, or some of them actually made it off the island on the plane in the last episode?




If you pay attention to what Christian says at the end, there's isn't really a question.  Plus, Matthew Fox confirmed what happened later that night on Jimmy Kimmel Live.


My understanding was that everything on the island was in their real world experience (Christian - "your time together on the island was the most meaningful time in your lives" or something like that."  That some lived on beyond Jack (Hurley and Ben clearly had continued exploits on the island - "you were a good number two...you were a good number one."   

 As each character died off, they then held out in the flash-sideways purgatory-ish zone, awaiting a time that they could reunite with one another and move on. 
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on May 25, 2010, 01:00 PM
That was my understanding as well, that at the end of the finale, everyone was "dead"...but that they passed on at different times in their lives.  I think Christian says something to the extent of "some before you, some well after you" to Jack, and saying that there is no "now" where they are now.  Overall, I was pretty happy with the finale.  I have seen and heard a lot of people strongly disliking it, but that is to be expected.  Rarely do you see a television show or movie that isn't complained about in one way or another these days (especially with the internet), and it is nearly impossible to please everyone.  I can understand why some might be disappointed in the lack of explanations relating to the island itself, as well as a few other things (Walt's "powers", what happened to each individually after they left the island, etc.)...but to me, the episode itself was pretty good I thought.

There's a pretty good recap (and thoughts) from "Doc Jensen", a somewhat well-known LOST fan/blogger over at EW.com that I think is pretty good.  I've still got the finale on the DVR, and hope to watch it again or a couple more times just to get it all to sink in.  I've thought about going through the whole series on DVD again too, but we'll see if we can get to that over the summer or not.  My wife and I were just talking about those who may catch up on the series on DVD now, and that would be cool...but I do think you maybe lose part of the experience (particularly in the early season) without having that week of anticipation between each episode.  I remember us talking about it all week and waiting for what came next.  Anyways, I thought it was a pretty good finale to a great series.  I know that I'll really miss it, and although I'm glad they set an end point for the show, I'm sort of sad that it is all done.  Sort of like when ROTS hit theaters....a lot of excitement to see the "last Star Wars movie", but sort of bittersweet since its life on the big screen (aside from animated CW) was over.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on May 27, 2010, 03:38 PM
A mark of a great show is the things you learned that can be applied to your daily life. Mine will be how to rip off a snack machine by pulling the plug.

What did you learn from the show?
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Scott on December 24, 2010, 01:21 AM
Guess which show I just started watching...I know enough to be slightly spoiled but not enough to know everything that is going on.  I'm about 1/2 way through Season 1...thank you Netflix!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on December 25, 2010, 11:52 PM
Guess which show I just started watching...I know enough to be slightly spoiled but not enough to know everything that is going on.  I'm about 1/2 way through Season 1...thank you Netflix!

Enjoy Scott!  We watched the first 4 seasons as they aired, then went back and watched them on DVD when they came out.  Definitely a different perspective seeing the shows back to back vs. giving you weeks between episodes to contemplate where things are going.  Hope you like the series and come away with as many questions as the rest of us!
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Scott on January 19, 2011, 09:43 AM
I'm through Season 2...gotta say I like it so far.  Some is good, some is great but there has also been some not so great.

I really like how they screw with your perceptions of different characters...one minute Sawyer is a bad guy and next week he's a good guy etc
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on January 19, 2011, 12:28 PM
If you like getting screwed with, you're gonna love the rest of the show.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2011, 08:09 PM
Season 2 was awesome.  The introduction of the Tailies added some great characters and "red shirt" fodder.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Scott on January 31, 2011, 08:24 PM
Finished 3 this last week and halfway through 4.  Love the flash forwards...the whole Ben and Locke thing is just fascinating to watch.  They (with Jack) have beaten each other silly and been tied up repeatedly since season 2.

I was pretty moved by Charlie's death but Claire 2 minutes after it happened didn't seem to be...bad acting and/or plotting on that one
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2011, 11:25 PM
I think Season 3 was the beginning of the really awesome stuff. 

I think at the end of Season 2 they had signed a contract that gave them a defined end point (six seasons).  I had the feeling that they were a bit "week to week" in the first two seasons with story arcs that weren't as good because they didn't know how long they would be able to keep going for.  The contract allowed them to really script things out and put really elaborate story arcs together.

As you'll see, some of them take the whole six seasons to play out.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on February 1, 2011, 09:31 PM
I was pretty moved by Charlie's death but Claire 2 minutes after it happened didn't seem to be...bad acting and/or plotting on that one

That always bugged me, too. She got/gets over it way too quickly.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: McMetal on February 2, 2011, 09:20 AM
I was pretty moved by Charlie's death but Claire 2 minutes after it happened didn't seem to be...bad acting and/or plotting on that one

That always bugged me, too. She got/gets over it way too quickly.

She was already coming down with The Sickness at that point, you just didn't know it yet. I give her a pass for being so smoking hot.  ;D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Scott on February 14, 2011, 02:52 PM
3 Episodes into Season 6.  Absolutely loved the way Season 5 ended and also loved and confused by the two plots going on at once

BTW...can I say how outstanding the score is for this show?  I had no idea that the composer Giacchino was the dude who does a lot of the Pixar movies as well (including the Academy Award winning Up score).  It is phenomenal.  He is a John Williams disciple I guess and it shows in his scoring, very well done.  Some of the scenes are made all the more powerful with the music blaring in the background
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Phrubruh on February 14, 2011, 03:21 PM
Just wait until you get to those final fifteen minutes of the series finally for the WTF? moment.  ;)
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 14, 2011, 07:28 PM
I actually really enjoyed the ending.
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Post by: Neal on February 14, 2011, 08:58 PM
I actually really enjoyed the ending.

Same here.  Apparently, we're in the minority.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Tracy on February 14, 2011, 10:16 PM
I actually really enjoyed the ending.

Same here.  Apparently, we're in the minority.

I did too.  I thought it was beautifully done.  Echoing what Scott said - the score only added to how achingly beautiful the final scenes were.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on February 14, 2011, 10:30 PM
I actually really enjoyed the ending.

Same here.  Apparently, we're in the minority.

I am surprised to hear that becuase most people i know enjoyed it as well.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Brian on February 16, 2011, 10:13 AM
Yeah, count me in for enjoying the ending as well - but I know there were a lot of people complaining about it too.  There was no way they were going to make everyone happy though.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Scott on February 21, 2011, 10:40 AM
And I'm done.  Wow...what a trip and put me in the category of loved the finale.  They wrote their ways into a few corners through the years (Walt/Michael, Eko, Libby/Ana Lucia) but for the most part they really tied up most of the major loose ends. 

My wife was a little peeved I watched this by myself so I told her last night I would watch it again with her...and it will be just as good the next time through I think.

My  only regret is that I didn't watch this when it was on but such is life with two young kids and no TiVO/DVR until last year :P
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Scott on April 19, 2013, 05:29 PM
My wife was a little peeved I watched this by myself so I told her last night I would watch it again with her...and it will be just as good the next time through I think.

My  only regret is that I didn't watch this when it was on but such is life with two young kids and no TiVO/DVR until last year :P

2 year old bump!
Me and Mrs OCB have been watching LOST since Christmas and I agree with myself above.  I love watching this through a different set of eyes.  It is driving my wife nuts that I know what is coming and she doesn't.   >:D
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: JediJman on April 19, 2013, 05:32 PM
I miss that show.   :'(
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Jayson on April 19, 2013, 06:00 PM
I have never seen it... but I am very tempted having streaming Netflix.
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Sybeck1 on April 19, 2013, 08:10 PM
My wife and I watched Lost last fall on netflix. Maybe three episodes a night at time. I didnt see it first run and I glad I saw it streaming
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: Scott on April 19, 2013, 08:17 PM
Probably my favorite non comedy TV of all time
Title: Re: LOST
Post by: evenflow on April 20, 2013, 02:32 AM
My sister just flew through the seasons in about 2 weeks. It was fun having someone excited a bout the show again nd asking questions and discussing it.