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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Clone Wars '03-'05 => Topic started by: CHEWIE on April 30, 2003, 01:14 AM
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I think it looks really cool, but I am still yearning for a well done Clone with the quality of sculpt and articulation given to the CT Stormtooper. I want an amry of great Clones. The preview version is decent, but not good enough for a picky Wookie like myself.
Shouldn't Hasbro have made one from the get-go? Wouldn't they have sold like hot cakes? Will we see an all-around awesome version before EPIII figures come out??
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I am not to sure about this pack yet. I will get one for my collection. I just hope they have at least the standard 5-point or more articulation.
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I'll be picking some of these up... that's for sure. Lets hope it has a lot of articulation though.
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I think 2 of the clones from the upcoming 3 pak are sorta pre-posed in the prone and kneeling poses with one standing. Maybe that one will have standard articulation but I don't know about the other two. It would be cool if they could be posed to stand and assume their photographed positions. ???
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honestly, Hasbro's a whacky bunch...
They could/should have made ONE mold with SUPER articulation and a neutral pose. The articulation would've sufficed any action pose one could want (With a stand included), and the neutral pose would make the rest of us happy.
The figure could be cranked out again, and again, and again, and again... You want new ranks? Hasbro gives em to ya by cranking him out in just different decos.
You want a pilot? Great, you get a pilot! They need only sculpt a new head.
He'd be poseable to ride speeder bikes. He'd be poseable to stand at attention. He'd be poseable to kneel or lay prone. He'd be poseable to march. He'd be poseable to stand firing a rifle at the hip, shoulder, single-handed, or double-handed...
The dude would do it all, and Hasbro would have made maximum use from a single set of molds, and yielded maximum profits.
And to top it off, we'd not be having this discussion right now... We'd either welcome extreme posed 3-packs of clonies, or we'd be seeing the clones in the 3-pack be the uber-poseable version we all wish Hasbro had the good sense to make.
Such is life in this hobby though it seems. ;)
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Yep, if Hasbro only had the insight we have! ;)
I agree Jesse, they could have done an all around great job on sculpt and articulation from the get go, and released it in the first wave of SAGA.
Then, later on, they could have thrown in a red version. Later on, a blue version, and all the colors after time.
Along comes a pilot version next with only a different helmet.
Somewhere down the road, they could have made one with a removable helmet.
One day they could have made one with battle wear.
Another wave down the road could have been the original one again.
Yep, Hasbro sure missed the boat on this one, they could have made a ton of money off one ititial sculpt. Dumb Hasbro Dumb!!!
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At a price point of $9.99 per pack, I can live with it.
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Why Hasbro didn't do one, definitive Clone Trooper sculpt is beyond me. Why they're CONTINUING not to do so in deference to even more pre-posed PVCs boggles my mind.
That said, I'll probably buy a couple sets. Not as many as I would have definitive versions like I mentioned above, but one or two. They're the green army men of the Clone Wars.
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I had heard that they will be releasing a couple of different ones of these based on sales
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Jedirhino!!! Great to see you here! Did you see my post at nomad's?
I think you are probably right about the sales, if (or when) they realize this Clone pack is a money maker, more could be on the way.
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Yeah I saw your post over at nomad's...I was kind of diappointed that the site is dying but I myself have had so little time to contribute...the school year is almost over and I will have more time soon...
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Did you see my post at nomad's?
What's nomad's? Just curious.
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pub82.ezboard.com/bswuniversialgathering41459
It was an awesome site at one time...just a small group of us who trade together and talk..nice group of scoundrels, but has since really totally died...and we are looking for a new home...Chewie said this is a great place...nice people, no problems, so I figured I would try it out
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b...ut has since really totally died...and we are looking for a new home...Chewie said this is a great place...nice people, no problems, so I figured I would try it out
Well, we usually welcome the new folks over in the Newbie forum, but this is as good a place as any, I suppose. With that said - welcome to JediDefender rhino! And thanks for the referral CHEWIE! Yep, a cozy, fun, knowledgeable, and very personal place we have here. Glad to have you join in on the good times! Everyone's pretty much on a first name basis 'round these parts, so feel free to spill the beans on your real names if you'd like... 8) Enjoy, and let us know if there's anything we can do to make our site even better!
Now on topic: Sure, I'd love to get an "ultimate" Clonetrooper - perfect likeness with ultra articulation for us to buy by the hundreds and pose as we please. But I think Hasbro's thinking is that if they give us that (even though they'd have the lucrative offer of easy repaints), they can't continue to give us the rest of the gobbledy gook in the meantime, all of which we buy up over and over and make them even more money. Seems to be the case with many SW figures really. Just make one ultimate version for everybody, and recard it every few years if you like. Seems like this would make good financial sense as well.
But many people (especially us completists) keep buying it all up regardless, so we keep getting all kinds of various sculpts and paint jobs of the different characters. Oh well. Just keep pounding the idea into Hasbro's head (like the riddance of the Action Features) and maybe they'll eventually catch on...
But in the meantime, I must say that I do like this 3-pack - even if they're each pretty much one pose wonders. If you give me enough one pose wonders, I guess at some point I essentially wouldn't even need any articulation (though that would REALLY suck). I do like the firing and prone poses with these Clones though. Too bad the overseas bootleg market had to beat Hasbro to the idea by a good 5 months! And if these 3-packs are really only $10 each, that would be one helluva nice deal. Hopefully Hasbro (and the stores) sticks to that price!
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Yep, nomad's was a heck of a forum for about a year, but only 5-6 of us were really posting there, and once a couple of us got sidetracked for a while, it really died down. Now there's only about 1-2 posts a month there. :'( But I'll always stop by there once in a while.
This does seem like a great forum, not too big, not too small, and everyone seems really cool. My first name by the way is "Justin", you can call me that or by my screen name "CHEWIE", yep I'm the same CHEWIE from nomad's, yakface, and rebelscum. And my little " :P " at the bottom of each post is just my silly signature. I have one for every site.
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This does seem like a great forum, not too big, not too small, and everyone seems really cool. My first name by the way is "Justin", you can call me that or by my screen name "CHEWIE"...
Alas, Justin it is! Don't think I've ever heard that before. Nice to finally have a name to go with the name... :P Thanks for the compliments on JD as well Justin. We like to think it's a cool place we've set up here, but it's really our members that make it cool, so for that, thank you all for hanging out here at JD! 8)
Now back to the topic at hand - the Clone 3-packs... Anyone care to speculate on whether the next 3-pack with the SBD, red Battle Droid, and the Destroyer Droid will just contain exact rehashes of the previous Saga carded versions, or do you think they'll be a little different? I'm curious to see if Hasbro cuts some articulation out of the picture on these guys, 'cause 3 army builder figures for only $10 is one heck of a pretty good bargain - at 33% off what they would otherwise cost if sold separately!
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1st, Thanks to Chewie for inviting me. I feel so loved...
2nd, These 3-pks better not s#ck! I'm really excited for them and I was checking out the pics of the clone set. The standing one seems to have knee articulation so I'm hoping all of them do. They would have to have som major neck movement though for the lying down clone to get in the position he is in and look up to fire...
The other sets don't intrigue me as much. I'm glad for the new jedi sets but I think head swapping will be a must and they don't seem to have a ton of articulation either. I'm not immpressed with the droid set. All I want are some red bd's. There are plenty of the SBD and DD so unless they upgrade these, I won't be making a new army. I still stand by my idea of a battle droid 10 pk...
2 white bd
2 red bd
2 security droid
1 pilot droid
1 commander
1 DD
1 SBD
That seems like a good ratio
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I like that idea too. A 10 pack. Wow! Probably cost about $150 Cdn :-[
I'll buy up the three packs as well. I just hope they are done with sensible colors for the troopers. I still maintain Hasbro screwed up. The preview trooper should have been red and the regular release should have been all white. Officer as a preview, grunt as a reg. As it is, distribution up here was so poor (and the preview figs ran in at around $14 a piece after taxes!) that I have more officers than not.
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Sounds like the builder sets will run $10 per pack of 3...
Wave 1 Case is
2x Clone Troopers
2x Destroyers
2x Battle Droids
Wave 2 Case
2x Clone Troopers
2x Destroyers
1x Jedi
1x Battle Droids
I ordered a case of Wave 2 from somewhere :-X
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I don't get why the Battle Droids and Destroyers are listed separately in those case breakdowns Scott. Besides the Clones and Jedi, the other 3-pack was supposed to have one each of the SBD, BD, and DD. Why are they separated out now, and where'd the SBD go?
Any ideas...?
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The Destroyers are the ones with the Launcher, the Battle Droid is as you say, DD, BD and SBD
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OK, cool. I was wondering if that might be the case, but for some reason I was thinking that Destroyer set might fall into the Deluxe line. Brainfart.
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Sounds like the builder sets will run $10 per pack of 3...
Wave 1 Case is
2x Clone Troopers
2x Destroyers
2x Battle Droids
Wave 2 Case
2x Clone Troopers
2x Destroyers
1x Jedi
1x Battle Droids
I ordered a case of Wave 2 from somewhere :-X
Thanks for the hint.
I only ordered the wave 2 case. To make up for it, I ordered teh Saga Scene pack and set of unleashed openers. ;D
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Me too :-X
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Too many destoryer droids. There weren't many in the movie. I wish they would just release a new one that would roll up into a ball. Then I would buy a builder set...
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A Battle Droid 10-pk would be pretty sweet...
...they could possibly do that at retail for about $30.00. I think they would sell, especially if they did an EPI beige set as well as an EPII red set. Good idea there Darth Homer.
As for the Destroyers, they really didn't have too much of a role in EPII, but what the heck, I guess I could use some more as well as a few more Super Droids. But it's the regular, sissy Battle Droids that I really want more of.
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Ya know, I wouldn't mind another removable helmet Clone in a generic stance. I think the deluxe one is ok, I just don't like his pose.
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That's mainly because of the speeder bike that he rides on... ;D
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First, hats off to CHEWIE for inviting me here. What's the secret handshake? :-X
When the picture of this 3 pack first debuted, the fully standing clone was yellow. I didn't mind having a yellow clone in this 3 pack because the yellow stripe is easily painted over with a white coat or two. But I didn't think that was the best pose for a commander, I preferred looking through binoculars to firing a rifle, for the commander anyhow.
But now I see that the standing clone is white! Less customizing to do now, and I think it makes for a better "troop builder" 3 pack since now you can buy 10 of these things and not have a 2:1 ratio of grunts:commander.
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Great to see you here Dressel! I think you'll like this forum a lot! ;)
Yep, now that it looks like they have changed the pack to all white, I think I will be getting a few more. Won't the wife be happy!! ;D
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First, hats off to CHEWIE for inviting me here.
Oh reeeeaaaally, Matt...???!!! Maybe you should go check your Rebelscum PM's from around February 23rd, eh?! You might discover you were invited here quite a while back... ;) Thought you were boycotting us or something! Anyways, glad you've finally arrived, even if it took you almost 3 months to make it! I'm sure you'll enjoy the place! Very cozy, knowledgeable, and friendly 'round these parts. Feel free to stop by the Newbies Forum (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=29) and introduce yourself to the gang if you'd like... 8)
But thanks to Justin for finally taking care of what I was unable to do originally, by getting our favorite Prune Face fan over here! As for the secret handshake, well you only get to know what that is when you achieve "Jedi Knight" status here! :P This whole "Matt" situation is starting to get a little out of control here though - this puts us at at least FOUR now! Ugh! :P
Now, on topic, I'm glad to see Hasbro had a change of mind and converted that third Clonetrooper to all white as well. Much better variety for the Clone army as a whole. We can always get that yellow (I think it was) Clonetrooper later on... I'd love it if we could get some similar 3-packs of army builders for some of the other army builders out there, since the articulation is usually not up to the task of creating a lot of these cool and unique poses that these Clones are in...
- "The Original JD Matt" 8)
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I think it looks really cool, but I am still yearning for a well done Clone with the quality of sculpt and articulation given to the CT Stormtooper. I want an amry of great Clones. The preview version is decent, but not good enough for a picky Wookie like myself.
Shouldn't Hasbro have made one from the get-go? Wouldn't they have sold like hot cakes? Will we see an all-around awesome version before EPIII figures come out??
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i think the preview clone was great for what it was. a standard army builder, just as this new 3pack is, so details will lack.
but i am sure that at some point we will get a super articulated clonetrooper of plain white.
hasbro just wants to sell us the rejects and haphazardly produced items first, so they make a lot more money in the long run.
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New pics of the 3-Packs
Droid Army (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=3131980086)
Destroyer Launcher (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=3131979963)
Clone Troopers (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=3131979803)
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It looks like the Clone Commander that was shown at Hasbro's media event has flown the coop! Perhaps we'll get a single carded version?
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The only thing I can think is that these are only mock-ups and the Yellow guy is still coming...
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That's what I thought when I saw the cardback that surfaced a couple of days ago. I guess I'm still unsure if this is merely a sample, or an actual production item.
I'd really like the Clone Commander. I'm sure we'll get one at some point, but I was hoping this pack would include one.
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I've read through all the posts here so if this was already answered then I missed it but does the trooper that is laying down have enough articulation to put him any other pose?
Not that I don't like the way he is, I was just wondering...
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I've read through all the posts here so if this was already answered then I missed it but does the trooper that is laying down have enough articulation to put him any other pose?
That's what we're all still wondering Beth, so you're not alone... I don't think anyone who's anyone has actually opened up any of these early samples to find out yet, and there's been no word - official or not - that discusses the articulation whatsoever yet. Actually, that's not entirely true - Jeremy over at Rebelscum mentioned this three days ago:
I have been told that they are VERY poseable. I'll have my hands on the very set pictured on RS in less than 12 hours, so I'll let you know then.
So hopefully Jeremy's got a correct scoop here, 'cause that would indeed by some great news! As would this, from Nick over at TheJawa.com (http://www.thejawa.com/):
According to Hasbro, there will be multiple versions of the Clone Trooper Army 3-Pack! How many is unclear at this time, but keep checking back. The yellow trimmed Clone Commander is indeed on the way.
Whether the articulation or varying colors are there or not, I dig this set. And if these "extras" prove true, that'll just be an added bonus. Here's a glance at the three new army builder 3-packs:
(http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_bbb46aea15373cd393f331f81d63ecfa/i-1.JPG) (http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_76eda4d0f7498a330aa83d16a67e60ec/i-1.JPG) (http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_b6b745c2c332ea3911548160140f9bfd/i-1.JPG)
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aw sweet the clone trooper 3 pak! man that is cool. and I also have been wonderin ghow much articulation the figures would have. From my guess the kneeling and lying trooper are kinds stuck in their poses, though it's okay with me since it's 3 diff poses! But it would be cooler if they had some articulation! :)
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Mark at RS says that Hasbro may actually be releasing up to five different versions with a white, yellow, red, blue and green version. That is indeed good news
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Did he cite a source? The one at the Jawa said "according to Hasbro".
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May 20, 2003
Send In The Clone Colors
Mark: We received confirmation that Hasbro will be releasing multiple versions of the Clone Wars: Clone Trooper Army set. While no additional information was shared, the sets will most likely consist of figures in the various Clone Trooper colors; yellow, red, blue, and/or green! Be sure to watch the Hasbro site for official details soon.
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Hasbro may actually be releasing up to five different versions with a white, yellow, red, blue and green version.
Skittles! Taste the rainbow... 8)
If this proves true, I guess that's pretty cool. Almost seems like overload a little, especially when some of these colored Clones weren't exactly the grunt guys doing all the shooting in the actual battle(s). But oh well. Fine by me! The more the merrier...
And if Hasbro is indeed giving such incredibly diversified treatment to the Clonetrooper army here, that should hopefully be a positive sign that we can expect bigger and better things for the rest of our "armies" as well... Hopefully...
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Rather than release a separate 3 pack of each of the 5 colors, maybe they should release a 3 pack that consists of 1-green, 1-blue and 1-red or something to that effect.
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Hasbro may actually be releasing up to five different versions with a white, yellow, red, blue and green version.
Skittles! Taste the rainbow... 8)
If this proves true, I guess that's pretty cool. Almost seems like overload a little, especially when some of these colored Clones weren't exactly the grunt guys doing all the shooting in the actual battle(s). But oh well. Fine by me! The more the merrier...
And if Hasbro is indeed giving such incredibly diversified treatment to the Clonetrooper army here, that should hopefully be a positive sign that we can expect bigger and better things for the rest of our "armies" as well... Hopefully...
I don't know why, but that statement from Rebelscum sounds more like speculation than confirmation from a source.
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First time posting here!! Its great to see some regulars on this
form. I took out some time to study the three troopers. If you look carefully the middle clone trooper is rehash from the red
clone commander while the other two are newly sculted figures without articulation. So it very possible that the middle figure has the
same articulation as the red clone commander has. These is still great
news on the diiferent clone colors ranks. Hasbro is started to go in the right direction!!!!! It would be nice to see a Bespin Guard 3 pack
similar to Clone pak.
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Welcome Stan! Have you posted at any other forums before, because I don't recognize your screen name.
Hope you like it here, and be sure to post at the "Newbies" section if you haven't already! :)
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First time posting here!! Its great to see some regulars on this
form.
Welcome to JediDefender Stan. I've seen you around RS from time to time. Nice to see you've found your way over to visit us at JD as well! Enjoy your stay...
It would be nice to see a Bespin Guard 3 pack
similar to the Clone pack.
Maybe not in similar poses to the Clones, but yes - I'd love to see a 3-pack of the Bespin Guards: the black one, Hispanic one, and a caucasion one. We already got the Asian looking guy in the POTJ line, and that pile of horse crap that came with the Freezing Chamber playset doesn't even count! I'd love to add some appropriate ethnic variety to my Bespin Guard crew. 8)
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Mark at RS says that Hasbro may actually be releasing up to five different versions with a white, yellow, red, blue and green version. That is indeed good news
Ebayer overlord307 (http://cgi6.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=overlord307&sort=3&rows=25&since=-1&rd=1) has gotten his hands on a couple loose samples of the red and green clones - both identical to their plain white counterparts. You can check out his prone red Clone auction here (http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=3132458114), and his kneeling green Clone auction here (http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=3132498725), including several pictures in each. I still don't see much articulation on these figures. If it's there, it's very well hidden!
(http://members.sparedollar.com/overlord307/IMGP2248.JPG) (http://members.sparedollar.com/overlord307/IMGP2244.JPG)
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They look cool and all, but I'm starting to get sick of the "action" poses. I wish they would make some standing at "attention" like the bootleg Clone Troopers.
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the prone posed trooper looks he might have head, shoulder and leg articulation, while the kneeling trooper looks like head, shoulder, maybe elbow and waist articulation. I agree that the standing one probably either the sneak preview trooper or the red trooper. Either way I want to get these guys! ;D
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Reports I read from the Hasbro event stated that articulation on these Clone Troopers was pretty minimal. It was a cost-cutting measure, since these are supposed to retail for $9.99 each.
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Reports I read from the Hasbro event stated that articulation on these Clone Troopers was pretty minimal. It was a cost-cutting measure, since these are supposed to retail for $9.99 each.
That would make sense. Not such a bad thing for army builders. But they would then have to make the other necessary versions - standing at attention, marching, etc. I wonder which is cheaper for them in the end?
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$9.99 - for that price I'd say yes, I would like to pick these up if I ever see them at retail.
I have mixed feelings about the color rankings. On one hand they are cool and ad variety to the figures, on the other hand they will cause me to purchase more...
Thats probably what Hasbro want's, eh?
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That GREEN Clone rocks!!!!!
Man oh man my wife is going to be a tad mad when she sees the Clone Army I have established by the fall... ;D
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$9.99!!!! is a steal!!! better than the army packs at $20 a pop...why don't they release all the army builders like this!!!!
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This really is going to be great, isn't it Jedirhino! :D
I just hope that Hasbro doesn't underproduce these. It looks like they have a surefire hit here. Practically everyone is going to want at least one set, and a lot of people are going to want a lot more. Heck, I am sure I will drop at least $100.00 on these.
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I love the picture of the green one. Even with the limited articualtion, the $9.99 price point is going to make it hard to get these at first, as everyone will be buying more than one pack!!
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And I am sure that Hasbro will goof and keep the production numbers on the Droid 3-pk and Jedi 3-pk the same as these. There should be at least 3X as many Clone 3-pks produced as there are Jedi 3-pks, and 2X that of the Droid 3-pks.
These Clone sets are going to SELL. I predict they will be one of Hasbro's hottest Star Wars items ever.
:P
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i can't wait $9.99 for this 3-pk, i'm sure i'll pick up more than one of these.
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Especially with the color variants. These are going to be awesome.
I've seen a prototype for a 4th Clone over at the rebelscum forums. I wonder how they are going to do that?
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Now that it seems that these have even less articulation than we had hoped for, what are your thoughts towards these? Is this going to affect the number of sets you would purchase? And aren't the guns supposedly sculpted onto the hands?
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At $10 a pop, I still think you can't go wrong. Especially if you open and make your own dioramas.
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I agree...with the price being $10...who cares about the articulation...they become like little green army men ;D
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Well, these things are at the very least articulated at the shoulders, because if you look at the packaged shots vs. loose shots, the arms are in very different positions. So, that's okay. If it's not more articulation than that, I'd probably get 3-4 as opposed to my original projection of 10 when I thought they might be well articulated.
I don't personally like the looks of that droid 3 pack at all.
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Yeah, I'm not too high on the looks of the droid pack either, but for $10, I am sure I will get a few of them. The Destroyer looks pretty cool, as does the Battle Droid, but I think they should have changed the Super Droid some, like make his right arm turned in a firing position like the one that came with the deluxe Yoda.
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I'm disappointed in the Super Battle Droid. I'm only getting one of these droid sets anyway, but they could have given him the firing pose arm.
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Yep, the Super Droid could have (or should have) been better; I couldn't agree more.
Now that they are going to mix in a random blue Clone, how many kinds does everyone want? This could get expensive!
I'd like at least two of each color Clone for these, and 3-4 all white sets. Oh man, I am sure this will cost me at least $100 before it's all said and done.
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This variant color thing could get bloody. I was hoping Hasbro was going to do an all white set, then a variant all color set. That would seem to not be the case. I just really want one of each color, since I'm not going to build an army of these. Hopefully they ship plenty of these, or the REAL Clone Wars will begin. ;D
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I want a bunch of different colors. I'm thinking I'll buy about five sets, regardless of color. I wanted to get a bunch of Droid sets, but those are a little on the ugly side, so I'll just use that money to get more Clones.
I wish Hasbro would do something like this for Stormtroopers. Man, that would be sweet.
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Yep, a Stormtrooper 3-pk would be pretty nice too. I'm very happy with the CT Stormtrooper, but what the heck, I'd buy those too.
I personally like the droid 3-pk, especially if the red Battle Droid can stand on his own well. If so, I will get a lot of those sets also.
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For the price, I don't think you can really complain about the Clone 3-Pack. I was always kind of hoping for a really articulated white version, or even repaints of the red basic version in the yellow, blue, and green colors. But, this is a fairly inexpensive way to build up your army, and are especially good for diorama builders.
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I'm disappointed in the Super Battle Droid. I'm only getting one of these droid sets anyway, but they could have given him the firing pose arm.
I totally agree with you. With all the different figures having "action" poses, why the hell couldn't Hasbro give the Super Battle Droid an "action" pose? >:(
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Yep, price looks good so I guess I'll be getting them for sure.
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Will these still mix in well with the Preview Clone?
Anyone worried that the paint jobs on the different colored Clones might not be too great?
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Will these still mix in well with the Preview Clone?
Anyone worried that the paint jobs on the different colored Clones might not be too great?
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Good questions Chewy. I just got the three pack during the week. And right now, I'm comparing them to one of my preview Clone Troopers.
Obiviously, there's the cosmetic paint differences, with the Preview Clone Trooper being dirty, and the 3-Pack Clones being clean. Aside from that, one of the biggest differences? A slight paint difference on the helmet (on the mouth grill, and a ring around the top/back), backplate, and stomach sections of the armor. The preview Clones have some grey detail paint on those sections, while the 3-pack Clones are all white. I think they're still fairly interchangeable. But I think the clean Clone Troopers will fit in better in dioramas with the Clone Trooper Pilot and Clone Trooper (red trim) because those versions are also clean.
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Thank you for that info, I was definitely wondering about it. :)
BTW, is there much difference in sculpt quality?
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The sculpts are pretty good. The waist/utility belts aren't the greatest, but it's in large part because of the nature of the poses. Everything else in the sculpt is great IMO.
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Well, I thought that maybe the Clone Troopers had some kind of neck ball joint...nope! It turns out that the Clone Trooper helmets are mounted much like the ones on the bootleg Clone Troopers. They'll pop off if you try, but thankfully go back on pretty easily, too.
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Thanks for the info Nicklab. I'm really looking forward to getting these...
...I've looked on ebay, but the prices are a joke right now. One guy from NY has 2 of the Clone 3-pks for a $30 "buy it now" option, and I was considering it, until I saw that he charges $12 for shipping to anywhere in the states. Hello, shipping should be about half of that!!
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Just be patient. I've managed to get two sets so far. It all has come down to luck lately. But I think they'll show pretty soon at retail.
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I got my Clone Trooper 3 pk & there great. Though they will stay in the package. ;)
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I have YET to see anything with "Clone Wars" on the packaging in my area. It's very frustrating, let me tell you. >:(
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Picked up a Clone 3 pack in Atlanta yesterday - very cool set, even though the guns are perminately in their hands. All white clones, I really wanted a Yellow/Green/Blue, but oh well.
Also saw the Droid 3 pack but passed cause the paint job was so poor.
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From everything that's been seen so far, it seems that the ranked Clone Troopers aren't going to hit until the Jedi Army 3-Pack starts shipping in the new case assortments.
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...even though the guns are perminately in their hands...
Are you serious?!? That's the first I've heard of that. I don't understand why Hasbro would have done it that way. The guns can't be taken out of their hands whatsoever? :-\
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Yes, the weapons are SCULPTED to the hands. The articulation on all the figures are at the Arms and Head, and waist, the waist articulation is hidden under the armor, which is cool.
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The guns can't be taken out of their hands whatsoever? :-\
Only if you have the skills of a surgeon with an exacto knife. ;D
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The guns are only sculpted to the trigger hand. The other hand is not.
Yeah at first I did not even notice this until I opened up my third pack of these guys I wanted to change the guns around and found out that I could not. It is not a big deal to me.
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The kneeling Clone Trooper looks great in the forward hatches of the Republic Gunship.
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Man, I really can't wait to get these. Your reviews have really gotten me to looking forward to these Clones. Have you taken any pics Nicklab?
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Naahh, no pics. But I bought my 3rd & 4th sets of Clone Troopers yesterday.
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I was able to score 3 of these packs today, and I absolutely LOVE these figures! I really like how the guns are molded to their hands! I didn't think I was going to like it, but they're cool because they'll never be able to drop their weapons. They look great, the detail is nice, and my favorite of the three is the only that's squatting on the ground. I'll have pictures of my stuff posted later tonight.
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Sweet, I found a set of these too the other day, including the Droid 3-pk. I got two of each of those. and passed on the Droid Launcher and Jedi Starfighter. I'm sure I'll end up getting those when money isn't so tight.
I also found the Wat Tambor wave on the same day!! As well as two more Snowtroopers! :)
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Good score. Post your thoughts on the Clones, Chewy!
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Alrighty!
STANDING
I think the Clones are awesome, especially the standing one. I remember a scene in the movie right when the Clones jump off the Gunships and make time for the Jedi to board, a Clone standing in that exact position firing upon the Droid Army. I really, really like this figure.
KNEELING
Another great figure, it really adds another dimension to dioramas when some of your army-builders are in a realistic pose such as this. Great job Hasbro!!
LYING DOWN
Eh, I would prefer another standing Clone in a different position instead, but it's still alright, so I can't complain, especially with how cool the other two Clones are.
I have noticed that it's cool that the heads are easily interchangeable, and the torsos should just pop right off and be able to switch them around too on the different sets of legs to make a larger variety of armies.
4TH CLONE
I seem to remember seeing somewhere a 4th Clone made for this line, I would not be surprised if it replaces the lying down Clone in later waves.
Overall, I give this pack an A+, and want to get at least 10 more of them! Excellent work Hasbro, except the case distribution should have one more of these and one less Droid Launcher.
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Excellent work Hasbro, except the case distribution should have one more of these and one less Droid Launcher.
That would be great, wouldn't it? :-*
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Yep, it would be awesome. Way to not use your heads Hasbro!
Anyone know where a link is to a pic of that 4th Clone I mentioned?
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Anyone know where a link is to a pic of that 4th Clone I mentioned?
Did you guys see the new pics? You're 4th one popped up, holding binocs, and repaints including green versions and red prone. This is going to be a carded/openers tracking nightmare! :) All good though.
J
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Sweet, I saw the pic of the 4th one, but guess what? The pic I was referring to must be of a 5th Clone!!!
A while back, Bounty Hunter GNT posted a pic of another Clone in a firing position on the Rebelscum forums. I am 99.9% sure that it is indeed a different Clone than the one shown recently.
So what are your thoughts everyone on these extra Clones? I love it!
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I caved and cracked open the 1 pack of clones I've found so far yesterday. I love them to death! The lack of articulation really doesn't bother me since they're intended for bulk and they really make it feel like an army. I'd like to see another pack with that 5th clone, as well as more standard white clones without the prone version in it.
It makes me wish they'd maintain a Saga line along the same lines so we can have army builder sets of Stormies.
I need more! More more more!
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I need more! More more more!
We all need more! ;D
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Looks like we won't be seeing these at Walmart...
...not too sound like a hoarder, but I am going to get as many of these that I see at retail.
I also want to get a few of the Droid sets and a couple Jedi sets too.
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I think 4 of the all white sets is all I'm gonna do. As for the ranked sets...I'm not sure. Maybe two of each.
My Clone Army is starting to reach proportions I hadn't fathomed. Hoo boy! :o
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Didn't Hasbro announce somewhere that there is another single carded white Clone coming out?
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The Japanese document that surface the other day had an image of Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin, and a Clone Trooper in a Clone Wars color scheme. That's probably one of our single carded Clone Troopers.
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Back to the topic at hand...the 3-packs! I was re-doing my Clone War diorama, and inserting my 3-pack Clones into the scene. I found that the prone or sniper pose Clone Troopers also double well as Clone Troopers who were killed in action. Thought it was interesting, at least.
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Yeah, the one that is lying down is my least favorite so far, I think they are replacing him with the 4th Clone in later packs.
They should ship solid cases of these...
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They are, Chewie. Although having Clone Troopers that can be used as both battlefield casualties and snipers is kind of novel. But I agree...I like the version with the electro-binoculars better.
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Hmmm... what other army-builder 3-pks would you like to see? I am sure we could come with one helluva list...
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Maybe another variation or two of Jedi
Maybe a few packs of Geonosian warriors (perhaps one with a Picador)
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Maybe a few packs of Geonosian warriors
Or some packs of Geonosian Warriors THAT CAN STAND UP! >:(
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Let's say that perhaps we didn't limit it to Clone Wars army-builders, and had the freedom to dip into the characters from the other movies as well...
I'll start off with a couple of obvious choices:
Stormtrooper 3-pk
Tusken Raider 3-pk
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Angry ewok would love more ewoks!!!!!
More technicians
Naboo pilots
Naboo royal guard a definite must!!!
Naboo soldiers
Gungan warriors
A Jawa six Pack!!!
Droids?!!
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That would be sweet if they had 3 packs of other army builders.
Rebel Fleet Troopers
Snowtroopers
Sandtroopers
Stormtroopers
Ewoks
Hoth Soldiers
Endor Soldiers
Etc.
I know they have had 4packs but the cheaper 3 packs would be a bit more affordable for me than $20+ Fan Club or whomever exclusive 4 packs.
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I totally agree... All of the above would have excellent potential as three packs vs. the troop builder sets. I, for one would buy as many as I could get my hands on. Are you listening Hasbro? You are sitting on a potential goldmine... ;D
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Yes, they are.
Ewok and Jawa sets would totally kick ass.
as would Snowtrooper sets...
hmm
hell...
Imperial Army Set
2 stormtroopers and a Biker Scout.
or 2 Snowtroopers and a Biker Scout
or 3 Stormtroopers.
hehe very limitless in that aspect..
Tusken Raider set would be interesting, but limited.... all we are missing is a prone Tisken Sniper really, we have the gaffi stick above the head already,t he tusken woman, heh, and others.
Imperial Commandos would be good
or Army Commandos.
the guys in grey suits, kinda liek AT-AT Drivers.
wow...
ok.. brain overload with ideas...
i gotta leave this topic now..
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Yes, they are.
Ewok and Jawa sets would totally kick ***.
as would Snowtrooper sets...
hmm
hell...
Imperial Army Set
2 stormtroopers and a Biker Scout.
or 2 Snowtroopers and a Biker Scout
or 3 Stormtroopers.
hehe very limitless in that aspect..
Tusken Raider set would be interesting, but limited.... all we are missing is a prone Tisken Sniper really, we have the gaffi stick above the head already,t he tusken woman, heh, and others.
Imperial Commandos would be good
or Army Commandos.
the guys in grey suits, kinda liek AT-AT Drivers.
wow...
ok.. brain overload with ideas...
i gotta leave this topic now..
See why I kept it short and sweet... Goldmine I tell you! C'mon Hasbro, it's a win-win situation for everyone involved. ;D
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Damn, I came up with a massive list a minute ago, and got kicked off the internet before it posted itself.
I'll redo the list a little later, I think you will all like it. :)
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As a builder set, I wouldnt mind a few of the following:
3 White clones (standing at attention) and 3 with Rifles (at attention *posable), with a clone to each rank. And a set of 3 Pilots...
Yeah...
Kevin
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I think that just about anything with Clonies or Stormies would sell like hotcakes.
How about a Rebel Alliance pilot 3-pk:
- X-Wing pilot
- Snowspeeder pilot
- B-Wing pilot
Hell yeah, I'd buy a ton of those...
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I found another Clonetrooper set the other day, this one with the blue Clone... but the paint job was ridiculous. It looked all smudged like someone applied the blue paint with a crayon. Are they all like this, or was this just an isolated case? Anyone know?
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Well, now I can add the green Clone to the mix after finding one today, and I must say that this one has a nearly perfect paint job. Awesome work Hasbro. I think these do suffice, and hope they continue to keep these in production for a while. We all need as many of these as our budgets will allow. :)
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Anyone seen the green variant in the 3 packs? They are cool as hell and we scored some at TRU today!!! I am sure that Dustrho will post pics of them sooner or later.
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Just picked up the Clone Trooper 3-Pack with the green variant. I also noticed while standing in the checkout lane at TRU that there's no trooper that lays down. In it's place is a totally new sculpt and he has binoculars! It's awesome! Here are some pictures of it...
(http://www.chrisrhoads.com/starwars/375_clonewars/118_1876.jpg)
(http://www.chrisrhoads.com/starwars/375_clonewars/118_1878.jpg)(http://www.chrisrhoads.com/starwars/375_clonewars/118_1877.jpg)
(http://www.chrisrhoads.com/starwars/375_clonewars/118_1875.jpg)
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Cool pics Chris! Do the binoculars come out of that Clone Trooper's hand? I know the weapons are sculpted in place, and I was wondering if they did the same thing with the electrobinoculars.
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The binoculars DO come out of his hand. They're held in place by the same wire twist-ties that hold the figures in their bubble. But, I don't think the binocs would stay in his hand very well, so I just hid the twist-tie stuff nicely behind his arm.
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Very nice pictures Chris! 8) Nice find!
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Very nice pictures Chris! 8) Nice find!
Thanks for the compliments on the pictures!
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One more question...is there any wrist articulation for the Clone Trooper with the binoculars?
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One more question...is there any wrist articulation for the Clone Trooper with the binoculars?
Unfortunately there isn't any wrist articulation. There is articulation though in the elbow, so that's a decent alternative. I'm very happy with this new sculpt, and the paint job on the green Clone Trooper is incredibly well done. Kudos go to Hasbro (did I really just say that?).
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I don't think I chimed in here, but I am going to now.
I first saw the all white pack of Clone Troopers 3 days ago at Meijer. I was very unhappy with the lack of articulation. These, IMO, look like glorified happy-meal toys. The static poses really turn me off, don't like these sets at all and I will not be picking these up for loose display.
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Chris, they're made that way to save money and have 3 figures for $11 instead of 3 figures for $15. They look AWESOME setup in my diorama, and I couldn't be happier with them. I don't play with this, and because they're in the "action" pose there's really not much posing you can do with the figures. I absolutely LOVE how the guns are molded to their hands... that's nice because they won't ever fall out of their hands. I have no complaints at all about these figures.
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Perhaps it is just me, but I would rather pay $15 for nicer looking items. If you do not like their pre-poses, you are SOL. I do not like molded joints or guns, so these are not for me.
Hasbro should start distributing these to McDonalds...
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Try turning the left wrist of that Clone with the binoculars again DUSTRHO, it is articulated, and is great when you remove the binoculars, because he can hold his rifle with both hands.
I really like these sets, maybe those that are opposed to them will leave more on the pegs for us 3-pk fans, but from the looks of things, the majority of fans are very pleased with these because they sure do sell quick! ;)
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Try turning the left wrist of that Clone with the binoculars again DUSTRHO, it is articulated, and is great when you remove the binoculars, because he can hold his rifle with both hands.
His wrist is articulated??? I never would have known. I actually thought I had tried moving it around, but maybe I wasn't trying hard enough. I'll have to try again when I get home from work tonight. Thanks for the tip Chewie!
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For some reason I don't mind the non-articulation with these sets. Maybe it's because they are cheap :)
Plus, we are supposed to get the super - articulated version of the clonetrooper later on. I'd assume Hasbro would be wise enough to eventually add the different colors to that figure eventually like Hoth Han blue & brown, Imperial Officer hair color etc. If you truly want a nice figure. Or there answer maybe the value packs.
I can see why some would not like the non-articuation static pose. I was not keen on it at all in the beginning But the aim for the 3 packs were dioramas. It has turned out to be a good idea I think.
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Try turning the left wrist of that Clone with the binoculars again DUSTRHO, it is articulated, and is great when you remove the binoculars, because he can hold his rifle with both hands.
His wrist is articulated??? I never would have known. I actually thought I had tried moving it around, but maybe I wasn't trying hard enough. I'll have to try again when I get home from work tonight. Thanks for the tip Chewie!
I've found that all of the Clone Troopers in the 3-Packs have articulated wrists. And it's almost always in the hand holding the weapon. Haven't seen the binocular version yet, though.
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God I love these Clone 3-pks (and the Jedi one too), and the Droid pk isn't half bad either, if only that darn Red Battle Droid could stand!
Too bad they even made that Droid Launcher, it would have been so much nicer if we had more Clone pks instead. :'(
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WOOHOO! Scored the Green set yesterday. And boy, I think this lineup is better than the origianl one. The prone Clone Trooper really brings the sets down, whereas the standing Clone with binoculars is pretty cool. ESPECIALLY with 3 points of articulation in his left arm. He can be posed with the binoculars, or with both hands on his blaster. COOL!
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I love these Clone Trooper 3-packs! I still haven't found the blue version yet though, but I'm keeping my head up on finding this one.
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Yep, I agree that the green pack is very nice, that Clone with the binoculars is a great addition and adds cool variety to the line.
I do have the blue Clone now too, and it really looks awesome with all of these set up in my Geonosis battle diorama. Now I can only wait for the yellow Clone pack to start showing up.
So who all has found the Jedi pk? I've only seen it once, and grabbed it from TRU.
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So who all has found the Jedi pk? I've only seen it once, and grabbed it from TRU.
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My wife, Carrie (aka carebear), bought me one of those recently, but the TRU only had one on their pegs. So, it's still on its card, but once I find (or SHE fines) another one of these I'll be definitely opening one of them up. They look great!
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So who all has found the Jedi pk? I've only seen it once, and grabbed it from TRU.
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Haven't found it, but I traded for it. Pretty cool set, IMO.
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Yep, I really like the human probably the most, and then the blue Twi'lek. The Rodian is alright, but I think a different alien might have been a little cooler.
Still, this is a very fun set, and I would definitely like to pick up a second set to customize a little bit.
Back on to the Clones though; which is everyone's favorite Clone pose? I prefer the one that is standing with both hands on the rifle (almost in an extended stance position), and then I like the one with the binoculars second, especially after taking the binoculars out of his hand. The kneeling Clone isn't bad either, but I really don't like the one that is lying down too much.
If memory serves me right, isn't there another version coming out too in a slightly different stance?
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The Jedi: Same thoughts. The Rodian is definitely my least favorite, as he's the least posable.
I definitely prefer the Green Clone Trooper 3-pack. Especially with the Clone Trooper with binoculars. That one is a big improvement over the prone Clone Trooper.
My favorites are the standing Clone Trooper, and the one with the binoculars. The kneeling Clone Trooper isn't very versatile, and the prone one is only good for sniping, or as a battlefield casualty.
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My thoughts exactly Nicklab. So how many of these does everyone have so far?
For me, here's the breakdown:
All White Pks - 5
Green Pks - 1
Blue Pks - 1
My army is starting to grow, but I definitely want to get some more of them.
On a customizing note, has anyone considered popping one of these suckers at the waist and switching the torsos on them? For example, imagine how cool it would look by having the upper body of the kneeling Clone on the legs of the Clone that is in an extended stance?
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SWEEEEET!!!
I tried the torso switch today, and it turned out excellent!!
All you customizers out there, definitely try this!!
Also, I think once I get another GREEN CLONE, I am going to try the switch there too, so I can have him in a standing position instead.
If anyone isn't sure how to do this, here's this Wookie's simple recipe:
- boil some water
- toss a Clone in
- let him get soft and mushy
- take him out with a pair of tongs
- using gloves or something to shield your skin, pull his chest off from his stomach region
- do this again with a different Clone
- trim the peg down a little bit from the lower stomach area
- put a new chest/upper torso region onto the lower extremeties
Bang! You have a couple more Clone variants! :D
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Awesome suggestion there Chewie! I've never done any customizing before, but this would be a good start.
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Thanks Dustrho! It really works out well. I can't wait to get some more of these bad boys to do a little more customizing...
Anyone else try this yet?
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Holy cow, tonight I decided to try my little customizing idea on these with a Green Clonetrooper. I put his upper body on the legs of the Clone in the extended stance. This looks so cool, I wish I had pics to show you guys!! :o
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Woo!
I finally scored the blue clone set and the droid army yesterday and boy do those clones rock!!
I can't wait to get the other variants!
Hasbro needs to do more packs like this...stormies and scouties from the OT would rock like this!
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Congrats on your find! Aren't they just awesome!!!
I could go for Stormie pks as well, Scout Trooper pks. etc, etc, etc...
I ran across another Blue set today... somehow I managed to pass on it (maybe since it was $14.99 at Kay-Bee). I think that two of those sets are enough for me; I really want a few more green sets though, many more all white sets and a few yellow sets when they come available.
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All I need now is the green set (just got the yellow one at Target today). I like these sets and am glad that they made diffent molds for the different color sets. I loved the diorama that Hasbro had at Wizard World so I needed quite a few of the these to make my own smaller version. Articualtion would have been nice but I'll take these guys over nothing at all.
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Nice find Jadesfire.
I found a yellow set the other day too; all I can say is this set is awesome too! Wow!!
How many Jedi sets does everyone have? I've got two of them now, and am going to customize one set. I think that I'll pop off the head off the blue Twilek and make him another Nikto or something...
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I'm getting paranoid about availability of all these. I've had spotty luck finding them in Southern California - would be interesting to see what people have found in summary since the first sets. This is what I've found to date:
1 Clean set
2 Blue set
2 Yellow set
That is IT, and I've been very diligent in my search 'round here. Its killing us here because there's a mass of launchers everywhere, meaning that demand for clones isn't being met, but they've been shipping plenty of the assortments. How is it everywhere else?
J
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I've been able to get the white and blue sets the easiest. I only found 2 of the green sets (my favorite so far), and neither of the yellow or red sets yet.
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I've had some luck finding these myself (or with the help of my wife), or I've gotten some in trades. Here's my list of findings...
4 - White Clone Troopers
2 - Blue Clone Troopers (both thru trades)
2 - Green Clone Troopers (one thru trades)
1 - Yellow Clone Troopers (thru a trade)
0 - Red Clone Troopers
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I got some Yellow sets the other day in a surprise find...
I have to say that, if it weren't for the "Ultimate Articulation" Clone I'd have a highly negative opinion of these. For $10, the figures are very "cheap" so the real value is kinda relative.
I'd say you're paying slightly more than you should for this kinda quality though.
Still, they're neat for what they are in one way... I just sort of hope that articulated Clone comes in multiple colors because I'd hate for all my non-coms and officers to be these pre-posed "plastic army men" type figures.
Damned if the one guys hand didn't break too. First figure I've ever had break just trying to loosen up the joint. Oh well, no big loss since he's not capable of doing much else but point his gun anyway.
The one neat thing I found is the waist (2 points) articualtion. That was unique, if sorta pointless. Wonder if that ultra articulated clone has that though? It has the same head articulation I can see in the prototype photos.
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Well I should be picking up the new deluxe case from EE tomorrow morning, and I think that has the red prone clone in it. Its sounding more and more like I need to get more active in trading to fill in holes.
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Has anyone besides me customized any of these yet?
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If I could find some more, I certainly would! I have this goal of one day, sometime in the future, setting up a nice little workbench where I can customize and paint figures. Ah, to dream...
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If I could find some more, I certainly would! I have this goal of one day, sometime in the future, setting up a nice little workbench where I can customize and paint figures. Ah, to dream...
Customizing is a lot of fun and is one of my favorite things about the hobby (especially making dioramas). If you ever get into it, I hope you post some of it for all of us to see. :)
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Whoa, I found 3 more of the all-WHITE Clone 3-pks yesterday at a Target. It looks like they are shipping again, this time with Durge Swoops. Anyone else find more of these shipping?
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Chewie, I have noticed a lot of Separatist Droid Army 3-packs surfacing by me, but I haven't seen a single Clone Trooper 3-pack since they first came out.
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Chewie, I have noticed a lot of Separatist Droid Army 3-packs surfacing by me, but I haven't seen a single Clone Trooper 3-pack since they first came out.
Hmmm... it would make a lot of sense if they would release more Clone pks (especially the all white ones), and a few more Jedi Army 3-pks would be nice to see once in a while!
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I just picked up a yellow clonie 3 pack. The box was all damaged to heck.
It was worth the purchase. Now if I could get my greedy little paws on a drop ship.
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Yeah, I can't pass these up; just about anytime I see a set of them I nab 'em. They are just too cool. Especially if you can find them at Target for $9.99. TRU is ok too at $10.99, but KB is pretty high at $14.99, but I did get a green pack there because it's the only place I have seen one at.
Overall I still think these are cool, and blend in well with the new SUPER-CLONE. I do think I need to do a little customizing on their helmets though, to add the blue-gray detail on them on the back-side of the helmets. That shouldn't be too difficult, just a little time consuming that's all.
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I wish I could find a green clonie 3 pack. I have clones of every color but green.
I would be very happy if some certain stores would...hmmm...not have pegwarmers that are 5 years old?! They have Bruce Lee and The Tick dolls there for longer than I knew this particular store existed.
:(
Kevin
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For those of you that have the new super poseable Clone Trooper fig, does it blend well with the existing versions of Clone Trooper figs (i.e. 3-pack CT's, value pack/Saga CT's, etc.)? Are they the same height, same proportion, etc.?
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Never mind...I answered my own question (since I got a hold of two SA Clone Troopers today). :) I still like the 3-pack CT's a lot though.
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Glad to see that you found the new Clones FORCE GUY. Aren't they awesome?
I still like the 3-pks too, but must admit that I like the new Clone the most.
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Anyone know if these are still shipping? I assume that if they are, they probably won't be showing up at Target considering they clearanced all of their CW 3-pks out for $2.48 (found a Droid Army for that price ;)).
Since the Seperatist Spider Droid is still new to the CW packaging, one would think they would still have more coming out. Anyone know? I'd really like to find another green pack...
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Hey are these still shipping? My TRU had some of these the other day (white) and they rung up at $7.95. Not too bad!
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Seeing that the animated figures will see one last hurrah, what would everyone's opinion be on them re-releasing the Clone 3-pks as well? Maybe instead of having that lying down Clone having a SA one packed in instead? And all white versions too. They could just be TRU exclusives or something. I'd be happy to shell out money for more of them...
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3-pack of just the SA would be preferable at this point considering its scarcity.
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I totally agree that a 3-pk of all SA clones would be great. I just don't think they'd want to have a 3-pk of perhaps the ultimate army-building figure retail for just $10.00 or so.
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I don't see why not... Costs are over for that figure beyond reproducing it, which is minimal, so it'd actually be in their better interest to satiate demand unless you mean they'd be better off selling it for $4.99 a piece and make $15 as opposed to $10 for 3?
I think the thing is though, they'd sell MORE of the $10 than they could of the $15 / 3 individual figures... The single pack would take up less space, wouldn't interfere with case ratios, etc., and the figures would still be generating more profit than ever really.
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Hasbro's too stupid to ever re-release the SA Clone, so we should just stop hoping for any more of them. ::)
But yeah, I'd buy a bunch more of them, in 3-packs or individually! Though the cheaper 3-packs would be preferred of course, though much more doubtful than a potential individual release.
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Call me crazy, but just imagine an ANIMATED clone 3-pack!
Yeah, that would just about rock. Too bad no one at Hasbro has even thought about this one.
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Call me crazy, but just imagine an ANIMATED clone 3-pack!
Yeah, that would just about rock. Too bad no one at Hasbro has even thought about this one.
An animated one would be cool... but I personally don't collect the animated stuff. The demand I think is much higher for the movie style figures.
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Farewell Clone 3-pks - you were fun but are no match for the SA Clone 4-pks at EE.
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Ah, but the 3 packs will return for Ep3, reports say.
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Ah, but the 3 packs will return for Ep3, reports say.
Really... that is cool. I hope that is true, and I would actually like for them to expand a little more on the Clone Wars era as well... hell I guess they can also go into the post-ROTS era some as well, as rumors are abound that there could be a TV series...
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Looks like we'll be getting a ROTS Clone 3-pk... wonder if they will be better than these?
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I only want them if they're articulated. :)
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Well, we're getting an SA Clone in this one...a near SA Clonetrooper...and an SA AT-TE gunner. These have enough articulation, all they need is a new helmet and new color schemes. The two compliment eachother, really.
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Yeah, with what we are getting in the basic figure line with some really well articulated figures, I do think a ROTS 3-pk would be nice to fill out dioramas a little cheaper.
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Yeah, with what we are getting in the basic figure line with some really well articulated figures, I do think a ROTS 3-pk would be nice to fill out dioramas a little cheaper.
Agreed. I don't need loads of SA troopers when most of them are just going to stand around looking badass. 3-packs serve that function just as well, and are much cheaper per clone.
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The cost to tool 3 molds (or more) for 3 figures like they did with the AOTC 3-packs though would actually run the company more.
To me, pack 3 of the GOOD basic figures into a pack later and ship 'em out as necessary... Whip in some color variants if it entices people more, but I doubt that'd even be necessary. This would be something ideal for maybe next year sometime though alongside similar packs for other eras/films.
SA E2 Clone 3-pack
SA VOTC Stormtrooper 3-pack...
Just something that, after a figure gets a basic release, this makes the value of the molds really take off, and the overall cost-per-unit decrease with every case sold to stores.
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I agree Jesse - but I don't see Hasbro releasing these in SA 3-pks, especially after the EP2 SA Clone is gonna be in the overpriced EE 4-pks and I don't see them being that generous with the VOTC Stormtrooper.
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No reason they shouldn't though... The release could depend on sales more than anything, which I can't imagine the Clones being too hard to find this year but I also don't think they'll be the pegwarmers of the season either.
The 4-pack through EE is supposedly limited (curious to see how true that is though), and it's through EE... I think the gouge there's more from a lack of effort to get a set lower price.
The 3-packs we got were all-new sculpts with surprising number of parts, for $10... 3 re-issued SA figures from the basic line SHOULD happen, it's a matter of will it... I think if Clones do so incredibly popular at retail this year as we think they will, maybe a retailer with real clout will get army builder sets in for good prices. Hasbro's said army building's going to get some focus though, so we'll see. This may be a carry-over beyond just the movie-year's blitz.
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The cost to tool 3 molds (or more) for 3 figures like they did with the AOTC 3-packs though would actually run the company more.
Can't they just pop new heads onto the previously molded bodies?
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Just a strange idea I had when you mentioned the "head popping" Valin: what if they did rerelease the VOTC Stormtrooper, but they released it with three heads, all in the same package as a regular carded figure:
1 Stormtrooper head
1 Luke Skywalker head with helmet
1 Han Solo head with helmet
They'd probably have to do some retooling on the ball joint at the neck to make this work, and even though Luke is shorter, we could really use resculpts of both Han and Luke in the armor with a new accurate body. This would allow Hasbro to reuse an old mold, release a figure that people would be guaranteed to buy at least three of (to get one of each figure in a "permanent" manner), and it would allow people to buy multiples of a regular (and the most superior sculpt of) Stormie to build armies with.
Of course, this will never happen, but I like to live in a dream world. That's where I'm a viking. ;)
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They're charging 35 bucks for the 4 pack?
If I had found 4 SA clones at current retail of $5.88 USD, and paid New Yorks 8% sales tax, it would come to $25.40 USD.
Boy does that suck. If I happen to have an extra 300 bucks laying around for a case (NOT LIKLEY) I'll shell out for it.
If not, who cares?
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The cost to tool 3 molds (or more) for 3 figures like they did with the AOTC 3-packs though would actually run the company more.
Can't they just pop new heads onto the previously molded bodies?
So long as the armor's identical between the two... Should work fine then I'd think. That'd be a good possibility for future sets I'd think actually. Perhaps the C1 Clonetrooper's helmet would fit the 3-pack Clone's body already even....
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ROTS Style 3-packs in a later Deluxe wave (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=6541.45)
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I'm not surprised at this... I am just glad that this is actually part of the regular line, which means there might be almost enough to go around...
Would have been better to see this though in the first wave instead of that crappy Obi Wan/Super Battle Droid combo.
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All comes down to money. Star Wars is a fan driven property and as much as we'd like to think that one Super articulated clone at the beginning of the AOTC period would have made them a fortune and saved them sculpting prices, the fact is that many collectors will buy and troop build every single pose, paint and head variation they come out with. Let's not forget that a five point articulated figure is only six parts to cast as opposed to 15 part articulation, get the picture.
If you could have bought a thousand super articulated clones when AOTC came out, then all you'd need to do is buy a few of the new ones, but instead everyone went out and bought each new wave hoping they'd be better than the next and Hasbro just watched the money roll in because what if they didn't make a better one next time and who wants to pay Ebay troop building costs if they missed out at retail.
I don't see SW figures slow movement into articulation as the company finally realizing it's the way to go. I see it as a plan that they have had for years now and if you ask me they're probably sitting pretty and smiling all the way to the bank.
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Yeah, I agree this is a plan they have probably had for a while... why make a figure great right off the bat, when you can sell several slighty inferior versions that keep getting just a bit better and better?
My main rant though is the lack of army-builders in the assortments... when I go to TRU, Walmart, etc, 99% of the stuff sitting there are core characters it seems... Anakin, Obi Wan, Yoda... the Clones fly off the pegs. The assortments should include about 50% army builders...
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Actually, just picking up a 3-pack Clone I have nearby, it's 7 separate pices (I think they all vary though), which means 3 - 4 separate sculpts requires about (since the pieces do vary) 21 - 28 molds... more or less, there's definitely multiple molds for the same sculpt, etc., but that's simplified for the sake of conversation...
With mold toolings being the highest fixed cost in a figure's development, I think these variances in numbers are important. That's thousands of dollars difference between doing 3 - 4 pre-posed sculpts compared to one sculpt with many points of articulation... That's not to say that there's not profit being made on both though of course, just really semantics that the reality is that the 3 - 4 pre-posed figures did cost more to produce than a single SA styled body.
Whether Hasbro intended these variants and all with the thought of profit in mind, I think profit's always their motivator but I don't think people would've NOT bought a SA 3-pack over a pre-posed 3-pack, and potentially they could've made a scant bit more per unit had they gone the SA 3-pack route in the first place. Not sure what their motivation is to go either way though because I don't see them making LESS if they'd gone the other way than they did.
I think articulation, since it is an added cost, is indeed something they've been slowly forced into. It's a competitive issue in the toy industry in general where one company's outdoing the other... It's rampant in the 1:6 market which has seen revolutional leaps made by one company's attempt to outdo another, right down to the patenting of some of the innovations being made by some of their creators. I think Star Wars has moved the level of articulation in an effort to be more competitive on the shelf to comparable toy lines... Whether that's the case or not though, who knows, but it's definitely been a gradual thing that Hasbro's been questioned on and seemingly reacted to. I guess I maybe don't give them enough credit for being "devious" enough to plot out an articulation scheme that, for all intents and purposes, doesn't benefit them all that much to play it out to its supposed end.
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Does anyone know for sure what wave the ROTS Clone 3-pk is going to be in? And if there are going to be at least 2 per case?
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Does anyone know for sure what wave the ROTS Clone 3-pk is going to be in? And if there are going to be at least 2 per case?
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I'm not sure, but I would guess these should be in wave three and should be two per case.