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Community => JD Sports Forum! => Topic started by: Paul on July 29, 2012, 08:43 AM
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All the hope for the fall starts this week! (and will be dashed after the first few weeks of the season)
Sadly the Cowboys did nothing to improve during the off-season.. Tony Romo is still the QB and the team is asking the king of "doesn't car" to be the leader, they drafted a cornerback with a to 10 pick claiming he was the best in his conference (the SEC.. a running conference...be the best run stopping LB in the SEC and I will be impressed), Jason Garrett is still the coach (like the guy as a Quarterback's coach, but he is over his head as a Head Coach) and Jerry is still the GM, (Like him as an owner, GM not so much).
New York and Philly got better or stayed the same so Dallas is not in a better position.
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New York and Philly got better or stayed the same so Dallas is not in a better position.
Isn't there another team in that division? Drafted a guy from Texas or something to play QB? Think I heard something about that this offseason. ;)
Should be an interesting year in the NFCE.
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New York and Philly got better or stayed the same so Dallas is not in a better position.
Isn't there another team in that division? Drafted a guy from Texas or something to play QB? Think I heard something about that this offseason. ;)
Should be an interesting year in the NFCE.
If they would have drafted him to play WR or weren't going to throw him into starting, I would have mentioned it, he is Vince Young (part II or III if you will).
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No worries, Cousins is Plan B. Shanny has 'em covered from all angles. ;D
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Better than Garrett, he has no plan, I'd prefer the Ghost of Tom Landry at the this point... and we got Ryan brother that is less fit for NFL coaching...but they Kiss the ring so they stay.
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If they would have drafted him to play WR or weren't going to throw him into starting, I would have mentioned it, he is Vince Young (part II or III if you will).
I watched both of those guys on the field last night, and one looked a whole lot better than the other. (Hint: the one with the 145+ QB rating) ;)
All kidding aside though, I can understand skepticism of any highly touted rookie, but all of the early indicators seem to be that Robert is every bit as advertised. (Talking about the whole draft process through OTA's, rookie camp, training camp, etc, not just the 14 preseason plays from last night) Everyone from the writers, coaches, veterans, etc have been pretty impressed from what I gather.
We'll see how things play out when it really counts, but this doesn't feel like a bust pick to me somehow.
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I've watched RGIII the last 4 years in Big 12 games. Pit him against a decent DT and he crumbles. See Miller, Von. And in the NFCE alone he has to face Demarcus Ware and Justin Tuck.
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I've watched RGIII the last 4 years in Big 12 games. Pit him against a decent DT and he crumbles. See Miller, Von. And in the NFCE alone he has to face Demarcus Ware and Justin Tuck.
Luckily, he doesn't have to block those guys...they have 5 other dudes to take care of that.
Now, if they get through those 5 guys, I agree he is going to be in trouble. Like every other quarterback in the NFL would be...
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Props to Russel Wilson for winning the starting QB job for Seattle. He went to the same tiny prep school in Richmond my girls attend. Always liked the guy...think he will do well, height be damned.
Redskins released Chris Cooley today...sad, but not unexpected. 6 Mil is a steep price-tag for a backup TE. I just hope he lands on his feet someplace else, preferably in the AFC. Always a fan favorite around here...
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Props to Russel Wilson for winning the starting QB job for Seattle. He went to the same tiny prep school in Richmond my girls attend. Always liked the guy...think he will do well, height be damned.
Wilson was fun to watch at Wisconsin. Hope he can continue to shine in the big leagues.
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Ok, after last nights game, I have to deliver this proclamation......
National Anthem Singers.... I don't care how respected, talented, lauded, awarded, hipster approved, 'Merican, Street, CMT Approved, Gospel, alternative, or Kardashian approved that you are.... please sing the song as it was written and arranged.
Oh and the Cowboys won... still a better chance they go 1-15 than win the Division or even get to 8-8.
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It was an odd game...I didn't think Romo would make it out alive after that first quarter. Their offensive line is BAD. Probably a good portent for the Skins this year though, mobile QB + shaky line can still = success.
I have to admit, Romo did what he does best...extends plays and makes things happen. The quick passes helped a lot. The Giants seemed sort of checked out of the game for most of the 2nd and 3rd quarter.
Giants better hope that secondary gets healthy in a hurry. I didn't think Tryon was even in the league anymore after the Skins traded him two years ago. Anytime that dude is on the field it is a mismatch for the other team.
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First of all, here's hoping for a safe year with no major injuries to any players. That said, I'll be pulling for my local favorite team the Cam-olina Panthers as they challenge for the NFC South. Other teams I like and follow are the Raiders, Ravens, Texans, Vikings, Bengals, Lions.
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First of all, here's hoping for a safe year with no major injuries to any players. That said, I'll be pulling for my local favorite team the Cam-olina Panthers as they challenge for the NFC South. Other teams I like and follow are the Raiders, Ravens, Texans, Vikings, Bengals, Lions.
I haven't seen the Bucs defense play a game like that since Gruden was coach and Kiffin was DC. Mark Barron's hit on Smith brought back memories of John Lynch... McCoy was all over Newton (shades of Sapp). I can't remember the last time the Bucs harassed a QB that much. And I also can't remember the last time the Bucs held an opponent to that few yards on the ground - 10 total yards rushing for Cam Newton / DeAngello Wiliams / Mike Tolbert. And another thing I can't remember... the last time the Bucs played an entire half without any penalties. Schiano has this team headed in the right direction... After three years of Raheem Morris, it's fun thinking the Bucs have a chance to win games again.
And it was really sweet having them win considering that all I heard all week long was Cam Newton this, Cam Newton that... He had a great season last year no doubt, but I want to see him do it twice before we start carving his bust for Canton.
I'm beyond happy at this point, but with NYG and Dallas up next, I think the Bucs are looking at 1-2.
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The refs were happily invisible for the most part in the NFL debut with the Giants and Cowboys, not so much today. I hope they get this settled soon. It was clear that on top of some bad and missed calls, refs were being convinced/intimidated into throwing flags late. The last I had heard, the two sides were like 6 grand apart per game. Raise the price of beer a nickel, cover the difference, and get this done before it has a lasting impact on the season.
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19-26
320 yds
2 TD's
0 INT
139.9 passer rating
40-32
Take that, national pundits!
;D
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19-26
320 yds
2 TD's
0 INT
139.9 passer rating
40-32
Take that, national pundits!
;D
JUST LOSE THE LAST GAME OF THE SEASON LAST YEAR YOU STUPID VIKINGS!!!!!
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Agreed...rest AP for the rest of the year instead of playing him in meaningless games where he blows up his knee.
I have not been a huge fan of the Spielman/Frazier regime, I am not high on Ponder, I am happy they won yesterday but man, a lot of the same >:(
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19-26
320 yds
2 TD's
0 INT
139.9 passer rating
40-32
Take that, national pundits!
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JUST LOSE THE LAST GAME OF THE SEASON LAST YEAR YOU STUPID VIKINGS!!!!!
Yup. Although I think they blew it at least a year or two earlier than that. Should have drafted one either of the years they were relying on Favre. Not high on Ponder either. Hope he proves me wrong over the long run.
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First of all, here's hoping for a safe year with no major injuries to any players. That said, I'll be pulling for my local favorite team the Cam-olina Panthers as they challenge for the NFC South. Other teams I like and follow are the Raiders, Ravens, Texans, Vikings, Bengals, Lions.
I haven't seen the Bucs defense play a game like that since Gruden was coach and Kiffin was DC. Mark Barron's hit on Smith brought back memories of John Lynch... McCoy was all over Newton (shades of Sapp). I can't remember the last time the Bucs harassed a QB that much. And I also can't remember the last time the Bucs held an opponent to that few yards on the ground - 10 total yards rushing for Cam Newton / DeAngello Wiliams / Mike Tolbert. And another thing I can't remember... the last time the Bucs played an entire half without any penalties. Schiano has this team headed in the right direction... After three years of Raheem Morris, it's fun thinking the Bucs have a chance to win games again.
And it was really sweet having them win considering that all I heard all week long was Cam Newton this, Cam Newton that... He had a great season last year no doubt, but I want to see him do it twice before we start carving his bust for Canton.
I'm beyond happy at this point, but with NYG and Dallas up next, I think the Bucs are looking at 1-2.
For real, the Bucs totally embarrassed the Panthers, ,much to my dismay. And we host the pissed off Saints this week then the Giants, with a trip to Atlanta after that for our first quarter of the season; why oh why do I now see 0-4 or at best 1-3 by then? Frackety frack frack!
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It sure is nice to see a real QB in Denver again. :)
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It sure is nice to see a real QB in Denver again. :)
You guys had one pretty recently. He's a Bear now, and in the interim, Tebow got you guys to the second round of the playoffs..
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You guys had one pretty recently. He's a Bear now
Seriously? I'd take Tebow over Cutler any day of the week, and 10x on Sunday. Cutler might have more conventional QB skills physically, but from the neck up, he shouldn't even be in the NFL. I can't think of anyone over the past decade whose professionalism has offended me more than him.
As unconventional and downright crappy as Tebow can be, it's been sad to see him get buried on the Jets bench, after creating some of the most exciting moments in the NFL last year. At least Sanchez earned his starting job this week though, so that should keep the Jets fans off his back for at least another week or two.
Surprising upsets in Green Bay and New Orleans this weekend too. RG3 looked pretty damned promising, and really kept his composure in his debut. And the 49'ers D' proved it's not a flash in the pan either. I thought last year may have been a fluke for them, but perhaps not. Bad start for the Pack.
Good to see AP back (early) as well. They need some decent running backs in this pass-happy league now. Speaking of which, despite the solid pre-season, I wasn't overly impressed with Luck's inaugural outting. They better find a way to hand the ball off a bit more, or that poor kid's arm is going to fall off at this rate. I still think he'd have been better off with a year's tutelage under Manning, despite his maturity and intellect. I guess it's hard to go that route with the rookie contracts nowadays though. Manning sure showed that he's rounded back into form. Hope the old man can keep it up, and avoid any further neck (or bodily) issues.
Weak start by the defending champs too, I might add.
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Seriously? I'd take Tebow over Cutler any day of the week, and 10x on Sunday. Cutler might have more conventional QB skills physically, but from the neck up, he shouldn't even be in the NFL. I can't think of anyone over the past decade whose professionalism has offended me more than him.
The numbers don't back you up. In his two full seasons in Denver before being trade, Cutler completed 63% of his passes, throwing for 8023 yards and 45 td's. He may not be Tom Brady level elite, but those are stellar numbers.
By the way, this past weekend he threw for 333 yards with 2 TD's and 1 INT in a 41-21 win.
Tebow on the other hand (who I'm a fan of, I went to Florida after all) is a career completion percentage of 47% and in 2011 (the only fair year to look at) averaged 123.5 yards passing per game.
I'll give you that he gets you something extra with his legs, but if you're comparing QB's, I can pretty much guarantee you that there isn't an NFL coach or GM not named Josh McDaniels who would take Tebow over Cutler. Good luck trying to make the argument though.
As unconventional and downright crappy as Tebow can be, it's been sad to see him get buried on the Jets bench, after creating some of the most exciting moments in the NFL last year. At least Sanchez earned his starting job this week though, so that should keep the Jets fans off his back for at least another week or two.
Sure, but that's because most people know that Tebow is no NFL QB. If you're team is in a hurry to go with MARK SANCHEZ (who has a long history of also being terrible) of all people over you, you're not really good. Fact of the mater is, that Tebow's success is mostly because of Denver's defense. They were outstanding last year.
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The numbers don't back you up.
No kidding. Any football fan could tell you that. That was indirectly my point. Hell, no one has worse stats than Tebow, other than possibly Rex Grossman and a handful of no-namers. Yet the guy could somehow, inexplicably, get it done when it counted, even in the playoffs for one game. On the flip side, Cutler puts up strong numbers every year, but continuously fails when it matters, and does so with extraordinarily "unusual" flare. Skills, obviously. Mental fortitude and QB IQ, not so much - hence my "from the neck up" comment. If I was a GM or head coach, I would never want a guy like Cutler leading my team, or even just it's offense.
I've been a big box score and league leader reading junkie for over 30 years, but occasionally the numbers don't tell the full story.
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Trent Dilfer consistently got it done when it counted too - because he was bailed out by his defense. That's what Tebow got last year.
The Ravens cut Dilfer loose after he "led" them to a Superbowl.
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No doubt Denver's D kept them in most of those games long enough for Tebow to pull yet another miracle out of his ass. I certainly wasn't suggesting he get all the credit for what they accomplished last season. Considering I'm not even a Broncos fan, I just didn't want to type out a full expose on their season, though statistically their D wasn't even ranked in the top half of the league.
As for the Ravens, anyone who QBs under Ray Lewis's watch is going to look good/succeed. As for Dilfer, I enjoyed watching him as a commentator. Amusing guy.
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Great. Now I'm not even sure what we're arguing about. :)
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IMO, Dilfer never got a fair shake his whole career, guy was a solid QB. I always though he got a raw deal from Baltimore. How many Super Bowl winning QB's get dumped the next season? For $%^* Elvis Grbac?!? Now THAT guy was a fraud...out of football within like 2 years after that. And then the whole Boller fiasco. Their inability to groom a stable offense was Billick's undoing up there.
I don't know what to make of Tebow. He's a unique talent, but hard to carve out a place for a guy like that on your team with all the other traditional roles.
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(http://i.imgur.com/hOrH7.jpg)
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I love how the refs looked at each other and then made opposing signals. Horrible call.
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I don't like, nor hate the Packers, but I can't imagine how pissed I'd be if that happened to one of my teams. I wish Cheap Ass Goodell would pull the rod out of his ass and pay the damn refs because the NFL is quickly becoming unwatchable.
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It seems there is some sort of ref screw up in about every game. They blew a pass interference call in the Skins game and they also didn't seem to have any idea about when to run off time on offensive penalties. It will get real nasty if this continues on late in the season when the playoffs are on the line.
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It seems there is some sort of ref screw up in about every game. They blew a pass interference call in the Skins game and they also didn't seem to have any idea about when to run off time on offensive penalties. It will get real nasty if this continues on late in the season when the playoffs are on the line.
They also said the Skins game was over when it wasn't, and threw the flag on Lil Shanny for disputing the blown call, and then they reversed the call, put time on the clock, but still enforced the penalty.
Really, the last two Skins games have been heavily impacted by poor officiating. It's not as glaring as the single play in the Seashawks game, but that stuff adds up quickly over time. Especially the lack of holding calls.
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Even with the two losses, at least they are scoring points. I can't remember the last time they actually had a legitimate chance of pulling off a last minute win or tie. The sack killed the drive, but they really moved the ball on the last drive instead of going 3 and out as usual. It seems to be a reverse of previous years when the defense would keep them in the game for a while, but the offense just wouldn't score. Now it is the defense that can't get the job done.
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I went to bed so pissed last night after that game. Worst call I've ever seen.
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Honestly the Packers have had tons of questionable calls go their way over the last 15 years. They have no right to cry about this one. I guess the fake refs didn't get the memo about favoring them.
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Honestly the Packers have had tons of questionable calls go their way over the last 15 years. They have no right to cry about this one. I guess the fake refs didn't get the memo about favoring them.
I'm calling bull**** on that one. Missed calls happen, but past missed calls don't justify or excuse egregiously wrong, game deciding calls that most likely only occurred because the league wants to play hardball and not give refs pensions and a 401k.
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I just couldn't stand how the Seahawks were so jubilant after that. Sure, it's one in the 'W' but I don't think I would celebrate a win because the refs don't understand the rules. Hell, I don't know all the rules as a casual fan, but I certainly knew that it was an interception/touchback.
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The best part is, that on top of all these terrible calls, Rodgers says the refs gave him a kicking football to throw on the 2-point conversion. Not only are those much tougher to throw, but it's a rules violation to use the wrong ball.
And the Packers lost by 2.
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I am in no way, shape or form a Packers fan. But the officiating situation is beginning to make people question the legitimacy of the game. That should really get Roger Goodell and the owners concerned in a big way. The NFL is such big business that they need to nip this in the bud, and quickly.
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If anyone wants a good laugh read this fake QB Twitter conversion (http://imgur.com/a/9H0Hv) that's going around.
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If anyone wants a good laugh read this fake QB Twitter conversion (http://imgur.com/a/9H0Hv) that's going around.
That's funny!
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If anyone wants a good laugh read this fake QB Twitter conversion (http://imgur.com/a/9H0Hv) that's going around.
That's funny!
+1 Thanks for sharing, Jay
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(http://www.joebucsfan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/doug-martin-1104.jpeg)
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Skol!
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By the looks of it, AP thought he had the record. Oh well, I'll take the win!
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By the looks of it, AP thought he had the record. Oh well, I'll take the win!
9 yards shy...they should have shanked the field goal and given him a chance at crushing the record via overtime.
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Hopefully the Tony Romo experiment is over here now. And the Jason Garret and Rob Ryan and Dez Bryant......
(Yes I know Jerry Jones as GM is the real problem, but that won't change any time soon and except for not being smart enough to hire a GM he is a Great Owner)
I keep reading (probably just local writers) say that 20 other teams in the NFL would take Romo over their QB... I can think of maybe 3 (and sadly I'd be willing to take their QB's, so I think it is a matter of perspective.)
I would be up for cutting everyone on the team, firing all the coaches and trainers and starting over. Jason Witten deserves to play for a winner.
With the playoffs just days away, keeping in mind that I am a 100% rooting jinx, I will cheer for your team's opponent this weekend for Hobbit Figures or Imperial Navy Commanders the price goes up in the 4th Quarter.
Now I can watch Hockey...what channel did they move that to?
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HTTR!
Beating the Cowboys at home for the NFCE championship...almost surreal it was so excellent. ;D
I never thought it would take 13 years between division titles, but I suspect the wait til the next one will not be as long. What an amazing run!
Just goes to show the importance of the draft, and how drafting well can change the whole course of a franchise. Not to mention organizational stability. The front office finally figured that out.
Gonna be one helluva game come Sunday. Wilson and the 'hawks are scary good on both sides of the ball.
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Start off the playoff picks:
NFC
Vikings/Packers
Seahawks/Redskins
AFC
Bengals/Texans
Colts/Ravens
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NFC
Vikings/Packers
Seahawks/Redskins
AFC
Bengals/Texans
Colts/Ravens
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NFC
Vikings/Packers
Seahawks/Redskins
AFC
Bengals/Texans
Colts/Ravens
I could see any of these games going either way though really. The only team I think has a real edge is GB after that humiliating effort they put out last week. Somehow I think those guys try a little harder this week.
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Start off the playoff picks:
NFC
Vikings/Packers
Seahawks/Redskins
AFC
Bengals/Texans
Colts/Ravens
I'm going with the Packers over the Vikings (eventhough I like the Vikings better), Seahawks over the Redskins; Bengals over the Texans cuz it seems like the Texans for lost their mojo, and Ravens over the Colts due to experience. But we'll find out soon!
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NFC
Vikings/Packers
AFC
Bengals/Texans
My picks thus far (can't post rest til other games start due to football pool.
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Dear Christian Ponder its called playing through pain...uneffinbelievable
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Dear Christian Ponder its called playing through pain...uneffinbelievable
Just another reason I don't believe in him.
Not that I thought the Vikings were going to pull off another win like last Sunday. Wasn't Rodgers rating last week something like 130? Not often you lose those games.
Even my brand spanking new AP shirt isn't helping.
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2-2 so far...hope I do likewise tomorrow. :)
I dunno about not starting ponder, I don't see how he could have been worse. Didn't he play through the same injury in the game last week?
Congrats to the Vikings and bengals on great seasons though.
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He played the whole second half...I expected 6-10 this year so I am OK with them even getting here.
We need WRs and LBs soooo bad.
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Dear Christian Ponder its called playing through pain...uneffinbelievable
If you can't throw the ball, you can't throw the ball.
Of course, Webb couldn't throw the ball either...
Regardless, not having a QB back there who could at least complete a pass here and there meant the Packers could actually get away with giving Peterson so much of their attention.
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I knew it'd be a long shot for the Vikes to repeat what they did last Sunday (didn't know Ponder wasn't playing or I'd have changed my pick), but being a home team, I went with my heart and not my head on that pick.
As for the AFC pick, I think it'll just come down to Denver and NE for the championship game.
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Dear Christian Ponder its called playing through pain...uneffinbelievable
If you can't throw the ball, you can't throw the ball.
Of course, Webb couldn't throw the ball either...
Regardless, not having a QB back there who could at least complete a pass here and there meant the Packers could actually get away with giving Peterson so much of their attention.
Yeah Packers! I had my concerns going into the game, so it was nice to see the Pack shut it down early on. Clear Webb is horribly inaccurate, but I think he was used poorly. There should have been more designed runs and option plays for him. He practiced with the first team all week - they should have game planned that one much better knowing all the attention would be on Peterson.
As for Ponder, I would be hugely disappointed in this guy leading my team into the future. Yeah, he has some kind of injury and I'm sure it was painful, but to go out as inactive for the game? To not even be available on an emergency basis? He took a few throws during warm-ups, so it isn't an issue of not being able to throw - it's an issue of fighting through the pain. Defend him if you like, but would Rodgers have been out there with the same injury? Would Favre have put on the hoodie and watched the game? Clearly Joe Webb isn't the key to Vikings success in the future, but neither is Ponder.
Looking forward to San Fran. GO PACK GO!
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Two sides of the playing through pain coin: Ponder vs RGIII
That game last night was just brutal to watch. Dude is gimping around on one good wheel and still trying to make plays. I just hope he didn't wreck that knee permanently. Ugly end to a brilliant season.
Props to the Skins and Colts for wildly exceeding expectations this year...
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Bal v Den
Hou v NE
Sea v Atl
GB x SF
Den v NE
GB v Atl
Den v GB
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Bal v Den
Hou v NE
Atl v Sea
GB x SF
Den v NE
GB v Sea
Den v GB
I like your picks Steve, but will go greedy and have the Pack knock off Seattle in a grudge match. You know the NFL wants those ratings.
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Eh, I don't know, Justin. Maybe people should pay me to root for their opponents as bad as my picks have been. The AFC choice was going to the Bowl. :P
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I had to turn off the GB game, SF has probably scored like 5 more touchdowns in the last 5 minutes. WTF? They almost look like they could give the AFC a run for its money in the Super Bowl.
That first game was nuts. I watched a lot of ravens game this year since I had so many of those guys on my fantasy team. Did not expect them to be able to pull that off...freaking unbelievable.
The sucky thing though, is that pretty much guarantees the Patriots ANOTHER trip to the Super Bowl. I can't stand it. I am so sick of seeing those guys every freaking year!
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Both SB picks out... wow!
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OUCH. That was a beat down, no doubt about it. Kapernick was incredible - don't know how you begin to stop that guy outside of breaking his leg. Can't believe both the Broncos and the Packers are out...that's just nuts.
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49ers just scored again
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49ers just scored again
That's not possible. The scoreboard isn't equipped to show triple digits.
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The sad fact is Randy Moss couldn't catch **** when he played for the Vikings the last time. Amazing he can with the Niners.
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It will be interesting if Moss locks horns (so to speak) with his pal Tom in the SB...
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Bal v NE
SF v Atl
NE v Atl
I've been 50% every week, so hopefully Baltimore will be the upset/constant in my picks.
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49ers vs Ravens. Not excited about cheering for the Ravens, but about the last thing I want to see is Moss and Kapernick with Superbowl rings.
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What is wrong with Kaepernick? Is he too fast for your liking?
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What is wrong with Kaepernick? Is he too fast for your liking?
No, they beat the Pack last week.
Well, Justin, does that mean I should root for the 9ers? I'm doing AWESOME at picking the 'winners'.
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I don't really care for the 49ers in general. Beyond that, I tend to root against teams that have won a lot and newb QBs who already come across as too cocky. I would much rather see Flacco and Boldin and Rice with rings than Kapernick, Crabtree, Gore, and Moss. Those guys all just seem like dicks from what little I have seen of them.
Has nothing to do with the Pack. If that were the case, I would root San Fran because it means we only lost to the top team. ;)
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Kaepernick is the real deal... within the next 5 years there are going to be a ton of QBs just like him and Cam Newton, so you might as well get used to him.
I'm rooting for the Niners but I have a feeling the Ravens win. They're the hot team, and a little motivated to send Ray Lewis out on top.
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Kaepernick is the real deal... within the next 5 years there are going to be a ton of QBs just like him and Cam Newton, so you might as well get used to him.
I'm rooting for the Niners but I have a feeling the Ravens win. They're the hot team, and a little motivated to send Ray Lewis out on top.
Don't get me wrong, I think Kaepernick has a ton of talent. He singlehandedly took down the Packers last week. I just don't think he has much class. Like when he spiked the ball at a guy's head after running for a first down. You don't catch many players pulling that crap, especially in a big game. I like his ability, not sold on his character.
There are already a bunch of guys with that skill set. Cam, RG3...I agree that we'll see more and more of the run/pass QB now that there are guys who can actually pass (unlike M. Vick, V. Young, etc.). I would totally be cheering for Cam or Bob if they were in it because they're effective, fun to watch, and seem to be mature/humble from what I have seen.
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Eh, it's give or take I guess. Cam Newton got kicked out of Florida for stealing laptops and Baylor Bob supposedly whored his fiance out to the basketball team, so nobody's perfect.
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Eh, it's give or take I guess. Cam Newton got kicked out of Florida for stealing laptops and Baylor Bob supposedly whored his fiance out to the basketball team, so nobody's perfect.
Theft and prostitution are insignificant compared the power of the dark side.
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Sorry, you can't just start 7 games and cruise into your first SB victory. That is ridiculously easy. Even Marino and Roethlisberger paid more dues than that. I can't help but root for Baltimore. I guess I just find it easier to cheer for a guy whose arms aren't draped in prison ink always kissing himself.
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Well it's Superbowl Sunday featuring the San Francisco 49ers and Baltimore Ravens! Who do you think will win? I like both teams, they have good defenses and QBs; 49ers have 5 previous SB wins but the last was about 18 years ago while the Ravens won their only appearance 10 years ago. I think it'll be a very close game, probably won by a field goal, so Im gonna guess a score of either 21-24, 24-27 or 28-31; but which team will win it? Very hard to pick but I 'think' the Ravens might get the win to cap off the emotional Ray Lewis career.
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Go Ravens. Yawn. I dont know of too many people around here that are overly excited by either team, but I'll be cheering for a close, high scoring game. Hopefully the Black Birds come out on top.
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I don't have a dog in the fight. The Giants were very disappointing this season, especially since the Eagles & Cowboys were really unimpressive as well.
But I have to go with the Ravens. In a way they remind me a lot of the Giants of 1986. A strong defense combined with a solid running game.
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As a Steelers fan I was hoping for a double plane crash on the way to New Orleans. Since that did not happen I will have to take the betting lines. I will take the 49ers -4 and bet the over @ 48. Even though there are two great defenses in this game I think points will be scored. Plus Jacoby Jones may put some points up in a hurry. Also on the coin toss I will take tales.
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Looking good for the 'birds at halftime. That fake FG was some stupid crap though.
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Looking good for the 'birds at halftime. That fake FG was some stupid crap though.
I'm not sure I like the call with 9 yards to go, but it was the right time to pull it and the right spot on the field. Kudos to the Ravens for giving it a shot. They were just a yard away and got the ball right back anyway. We'll see if it comes back to bite them - the 49ers are just down 5 and about to score with a few minutes to go...
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Wild finish... Wasn't all that excited for the game today... I rooted a little more for Baltimore ultimately but didn't put anything on any aspect of the game and so I just sat around watching and ******* over to the TWD marathon.
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BREAKING NEWS: The NFL just announced that next year's Super Bowl venue has been changed to a Motel 6. They always leave the lights on. :P
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Straight up: if the Ravens had not pulled that out, it would have been a tainted outcome and an even HUGER bacl eye for the league. CLEARLY, the power outage impacted the competitive balance of the game. If Baltimore had gone on to lose that game their fans would have a LOT to complain about today, IMHO.
No matter what the reason, that was an inexcusable occurence for the biggest live TV broadcast all year. Several people should be fired over that debacle. Is it really so hard to design an illumination system that DOESN'T take 35 minutes to cycle back up after a power surge?
I also liked how after the LaMichael James fumble, the TV cameras proceeded to fixate on him on the SF sideline for pretty much the entirety of the Raven's resulting TD drive, but for the WHOLE 35 minute outage debacle, somehow the cameras couldn't seem to find the commissioner in his luxury box suite. I guess the media only enjoys humiliating the players, not the executives.
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I was hoping for a complete wardrobe malfunction on Beyonce's part.
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+1 to that. Maybe there was a wardrobe malfunction and that's why they killed the lights?
M - with you on being thankful the 49ersthe didn't pull off the upset. An extra half hour time out to regroup obviously was working in the niners favor, so glad we dont have to deal with conspiracy theory the day after.
I thought the deliberate safety at the end was brilliant, but couldnt help thinking how that play changed the betting results for so many people. Definitely a fun and drama filled game.
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+2 on Beyonce... The hips were mesmerizing.
I can't agree on the lights out... People need fired? Who? Because it impacted a spectator sport that means nothing? I just can't agree. I imagine it's the ammount of power that is required in a building that size, and lights that size, that requires that kind of a reboot time... plus probably some safety checks to make sure when the cycle's up things don't pop on their end. If you get a power surge to your house you don't just flick everything back on without some care.
Likewise don't think the Ravens would've had much excuse had they lost... I just don't agree. They were given equal time to circle the wagons, make their game plan... Who knows if the Niners even needed that long? Maybe the half, they had changed enough to come out guns blazing like they did. It's like saying because it snowed or rained, one team was affected more than the other, and that's why they lost. It's a "**** happens" scenario, and one that impacted both teams equally. What they did with it was on them.
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5 SB and 2 WS championships in the last 3 years, and not one of those lessen the sting of the loss.
As for the outage... Components wear out and fail. I'm sure they'll do their investigation, and if they conclude the breakdown happened because of shoddy work or maintenance wasn't kept up, then maybe someone will have to answer for it. Otherwise, shtuff happens.
Oh, yeah -- Wow, Beyonce's still hot.
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I couldn't resist it Idej, but last night I tweeted that it was the 49'ers pulling out their shrewd "turn the lights out and regroup" play. You did that to us too! It's a conspiracy! Heads will roll! :P
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I don't think you can compare weather conditions to a blackout. It isnt so much that an element of the game was more favorable to the niners, its that they were getting blown away, then had over half an hour to fix whatever wasnt clicking. Yes, Baltimore had that time as well, but they didnt really need to adjust anything the way the game was going. You cant look at the Niners post blackout and tell me that was the same gameplan as earlier in the game.
Whether you think the blackout helped them or not, we would be hearing conspiracy theories 24-7 if the Niners had come back to win at the end.
I'm with you on the outage not costing jobs though. Who knows what drove the problem and is it really worth firing people over? If anything, whoevers at fault should get a raise. An extra 34 minutes of ad space, added drama to watch, and potientially the reason the Niners came back near the end.
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I'll say this much about the blackout... It only basically added extra time to the half-time gap which coaching staffs, whether they're up by 40 or down by 40, always evaluate and make changes to their next half. In my mind, this did nothing except run the risk of injury to someone on one side or another... Just because you're kicking the other team's ass doesn't mean you just say to your guys, "Let's just keep doing what we're doing". Even with 12 year olds there's always some tweaking taking place... So I think you'd have seen the same Niners had they had the usual half-time break or what they wound up with. And I think you'd have seen the same Baltimore.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't think in the extra time they had an epiphany on their coaching staff suddenly that they hadn't come up with during the initial half-time break.
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Yeah, but it's hard to argue it didn't have an impact on the competitive nature of the game on the field. Flacco had 84 minutes between snaps, that's redonkulous. Guys tighten up, injuries can happen, it's not a good situation having a long delay like that, especially if you're the team with all the momentum coming off a huge 2nd half opening play like they were. I'm not crying conspiracy, I'm just saying it altered the results on the field, in my mind anyway, and something like that should never happen in a game of this magnitude.
I'm not so sure about the ad revenue lift either, a lot of people probably got sick of waiting and tuned out or switched to something else, plus it drove the last quarter out of the prime pre-10pm time slot. Not to mention all the families who were probably terrified that some kind of terrorist incident might be taking place. Ugh, just a real black eye for the NFL and the Superdome, IMO.
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First, haha at the picture... That was pretty clutch.
But...
Yeah, but it's hard to argue it didn't have an impact on the competitive nature of the game on the field. Flacco had 84 minutes between snaps, that's redonkulous. Guys tighten up, injuries can happen, it's not a good situation having a long delay like that, especially if you're the team with all the momentum coming off a huge 2nd half opening play like they were. I'm not crying conspiracy, I'm just saying it altered the results on the field, in my mind anyway, and something like that should never happen in a game of this magnitude.
Kapernik also went 84 minutes between snaps, as did every player, and the refs... The only people getting a workout throughout the break were the analysts looking like they were playing hot potato with the mic throwing it to one another since not many of them could fill the time void well.
I'll give that the Ravens had a big play, but that meant the Niners had all that time to sit there and stew, and not get a kick to them wanting to get it back... that argument works both ways. Just as the argument that Flacco had to sit around works both ways that the other team did, and both coaching staffs did... You'll never convince me that someone got an advantage out of that, that the other team couldn't have turned into their own advantage if they had the right mindset.
I think you'd have seen the same Niners team come out, either way, but you could easily BS the same argument that the blackout hurt the Niners if you wanted to... Their emotions after that run-back would be high. Leaders would've been firing their teammates up... Now, that balloon's deflated too.
I really just think had the Ravens lost, all it would've been was an excuse-fest as to why they didn't, rather than accepting everyone dealt with the same conditions. Like I said, power surges happen, they're beyond people's control... I'm not able to rewire my house much less understand the lighting system of a domed stadium so I have no clue if it should've taken taht long or not to get back up and running, but it's no different than a storm coming up and stopping a game outdoors, and then the game continuing in a little while when the storm passes.
Same thing happened to the Steelers, in San Fran, and we lost, and **** happens. :-\
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I have to say the blackout hurt the Ravens. It isn't like it happened right after the halftime show. It happened about three minutes into the second half. The Ravens returned the opening quick off for a touchdown and had the 49'ers at 3rd and 13. If the 49'ers don't convert, Ravens have a ton of momentum. While they didn't convert after the delay, they sure had a lot of time to regroup, much more so than at halftime. You can probably chalk that one up to the delay. Converting a 3rd and long after a delay of that amount probably isn't easy. At halftime, yes they would have made adjustments, but they got an extra halftime to readjust again after going down by another touchdown. The Ravens were flat on their next series and then the 49'ers went on a roll. Without the delay, I don't think the 49'ers would have made it a close game.
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Well, Kaps didn't actually have 84 minutes between snaps because they had the ball both before and after the blackout, so Flacco did have the longer wait, in all fairness. But I understand it's sort of beside the point, ultimately. Once the game's back on, you gotta play.
Here's to a quiet and productive offseason for all!
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As long as RG3 is back at 100% by August, I will be happy.
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As long as RG3 is back at 100% by August, I will be happy.
+1. He is my keeper in FF
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+ 2, love the guy, love the team. HTTR!