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Community => Watto's Junk Yard => Topic started by: Jeff on March 24, 2006, 12:16 PM
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The day is here and I can finally celebrate this glorious Friday with an announcement...
I AM RUNNING FOR FAN CLUB PRESIDENT!
(http://www.jedidefender.com/images/smentek06/jeffheader.jpg)
Catch all the glorious details on my mega-Awesome announcement page (http://www.jedidefender.com/smentek06.php).
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Vote for me! :)
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No really, PLEASE vote for me! ;D
p.p.p.s.
Seriously, why aren't you people voting for me... I must say I'm underwhelmed by the support thus far. >:(
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hillarious! ;D Awesome news Jeff! I think I'll sign up now! So, we just sign up at SW.com and there's a place to vote? :-\
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While I can't say I support all of Mr. Hood's policies he's made in the past, the Doombot army is at your disposal!
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How do you support me?
Well, simply sign up for or renew your existing Hyperspace subscription.
After you purchase your subscription you will receive an e-mail with a "Digital Access Code" that is used to create or renew your subscription. In the e-mail there will be a link to the page on StarWars.com for managing your subscription. Load the page in your browser and then enter the code and use jsmentek@jedidefender.com as your referring e-mail address (If you renew, the page that you input the renewal code in also has a box to input Jeff's e-mail address).
That's all there is to it to support the greatest candidate for Fan Club president ever. :)
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uh oh...but .. what if I didn't have an existing membership and get a new one..can I still vote?
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I think so, only Jeff has to be an existing member.
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Well, simply sign up for or renew your existing Hyperspace subscription.
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Absolutely!
It works the same way for new memberships or renewed memberships! Either way there will be a place to enter my e-mail address (jsmentek@jedidefender.com) to help me win!
Remember, a vote for Jeff is a vote for freedom from the scum of the universe!
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/Jeff_04_v2.jpg)
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Crap - I wish I knew someone at JD was going to do this sooner, I already helped Dustin at Rebelscum.
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11602.0;id=1426;image)
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Man, which awesome guy in sunglasses, looking cool candidate do I vote for???
Those sunglasses make me think both guys are awesome and/or cool!
Just kidding!
I'd like to, uh, contribute without having to actually go to hyperspace.
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We have our work cut out for us...we're down by twelve votes.
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I'd vote but Jeff hasn't PP'd his $40 to me yet...
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I smell a need for campaign finance reform ;D
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I smell a need for campaign finance reform ;D
Hey! No politics!! >:(
;D
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I laughed, I cried, I peed my pants. No, really.
I've not use for Hyperspace at all, but if you get close, I'll blow that much money to help out.
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I'll ask the same question I asked Dustin! Are you going to share the swag with your supporters?? I mean after all you are getting a free friggin plane ride to SDCC, share in the wealth to your supporters!! I was actually thinking of subscribing!!
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I'll ask the same question I asked Dustin! Are you going to share the swag with your supporters?? I mean after all you are getting a free friggin plane ride to SDCC, share in the wealth to your supporters!! I was actually thinking of subscribing!!
"Ask not what your hobby can do for you, but what you can do for your hobby." ;)
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11602.0;id=1433;image)
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I need to renew my subscription. I've been waiting for someone from JD to play the underdog. When I renew sometime between now and the deadline, I'll probably throw my referral your way. :)
_Max
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My subscription is set for an auto-renewal and I have no idea ho to turn it off, i was going to cancel it, but if i can find a way to refer it too Jeff I'll do that.
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Doesn't suscribing to Insider entitle one to a free membership? If so, anyone have an idiots guide to using it to sign up?
Jeff, you'll get my vote.
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I was just analyzing this situation, thinking Philip would probably buy as many subscriptions as was necessary for Dustin to win, when I noticed that someone called "USCwannabe" is now up on Dustin 20-13.
1. uscwannabe 20
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 13
3. yodaandee 2
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USCwannabe? Sounds like Colman's in the running. 8)
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I was just analyzing this situation, thinking Philip would probably buy as many subscriptions as was necessary for Dustin to win, when I noticed that someone called "USCwannabe" is now up on Dustin 20-13.
1. uscwannabe 20
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 13
3. yodaandee 2
Damn. USC got 11 votes since the last tally. I wonder if he's active on the SW.com forums or something?
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I really wish I gave two craps about Hyperspace to buy a subscription and vote for Jeff. But you have my support anyway! Good luck!
And I love how the usual RetardS hijacked Rob's thread over there calling us copycats, etc. for having a staff member run for president. ::)
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Well to combat this my friend Travis, I beleive anyone who has an RS account should change there Avatar to a Vote for Jeff Avatar just to aggrivate them more,They get so winy when things don't go their way.
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Well to combat this my friend Travis, I beleive anyone who has an RS account should change there Avatar to a Vote for Jeff Avatar just to aggrivate them more,They get so winy when things don't go their way.
You can't. It's affiliated with JediDefender and they will smack your **** down if you do such a thing.
Kevin
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I don't care if its for a few posts it will still do damage
anyway here is an avatar I cooked up for you all. took me 3 seconds :P
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b353/smartypants1635/smentek06.jpg
too bad you cant read it
:-[
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That...looks just like the one on the campaign site.
Kevin
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IT is just cropped so it fits in the avatar dimensions. :P Im using it lol
Jeff, hey listen I was scanning the RS bash thread and 1 guy suggested that you and Dustin have a LIve debate in a chat room.
Personaly I would love to see Dustin Get his ass handed to him by our own Celebrity. :P How bout you guys
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I would love to see Dustin Get his ass handed to him by our own Celebrity.
I would love to hand Dustin his ass, but shouldn't Jeff do it, seeing as he's up for election?
Kevin
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lmfao dood wot pwnag3
It's funny because Kev has been on MTV.
He's also Batman.
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Good luck in the campaign. Looks like you have your work cut out for you with Dustin and whoever that USC guy is fighting it out for 1st and 2nd.
Oh, and remember...if you win, on stage at Comic Con be sure to denounce hyperspace as the suckhole of suck that it is.
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I really wish I gave two craps about Hyperspace to buy a subscription and vote for Jeff. But you have my support anyway! Good luck!
Then consider it a subscription to the SW Insider for the $40.
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I really wish I gave two craps about Hyperspace to buy a subscription and vote for Jeff. But you have my support anyway! Good luck!
Then consider it a subscription to the SW Insider for the $40.
Maybe you can answer my question. Does Hyperspace come with Insider or Visa Versa?
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Yes :)
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I would love to see Dustin Get his ass handed to him by our own Celebrity.
I would love to hand Dustin his ass, but shouldn't Jeff do it, seeing as he's up for election?
Kevin
Haha nice one Kev I still havn't caught that episode yet, but a bunch of my friends have seen it.
HMM I'll see if I can convince my parents to buy a HS subscription So I can help you get in office.
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Official Jeff 4 Prez avatars are now available in your profile. Just look under "J" and you'll find Jeff 4 Prez listings.
(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/avatars/Jeff 4 Prez.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/avatars/Jeff 4 Prez 2.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/avatars/Jeff 4 Prez 3.jpg)
Also now available is the OFFICIAL Jeff 4 Prez website: http://www.jeff4prez.com!
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Hey, the Jeff avatars are real nice, I am in full support of your nomination as President!
Although I do believe you would get more votes if you were also wearing a beanie, maybe one that is shaped like a large breast. I think it would really motivate people to sign up knowing in some way the election is tied in with breasts.
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Wow, all the support is great!
Thanks to all those who are on board! ;D
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I was going to vote for you, I swear.... but I cocked it up. :'(
In the last step, I forgot to enter your email in the "Referrer" field before I hit "Upgrade Account". I immediately hit "Stop" (the next page hadn't even loaded yet) and entered your email ... but it was already too late. I tried again but it said that access code had already been redeemed, so I don't think the vote went through. And I can't cancel my subscription and redo it.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/ValinKenobi/Forums/computer_bloody_smash.gif)
I'm really sorry, man. :-\ Obviously I'm still on board for moral support.
But on the positive side: if you lose by one vote, you know who to go after. (http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/konfus/c022.gif) :P
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I was going to vote for you, I swear.... but I cocked it up. :'(
In the last step, I forgot to enter your email in the "Referrer" field before I hit "Upgrade Account". I immediately hit "Stop" (the next page hadn't even loaded yet) and entered your email ... but it was already too late. I tried again but it said that access code had already been redeemed, so I don't think the vote went through. And I can't cancel my subscription and redo it.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/ValinKenobi/Forums/computer_bloody_smash.gif)
I'm really sorry, man. :-\ Obviously I'm still on board for moral support.
But on the positive side: if you lose by one vote, you know who to go after. (http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/konfus/c022.gif) :P
You could e-mail support and have them manually add it for you.
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Hmmm, I didn't think of that. I don't know if they'll do it, but it's worth a try. Thanks Chris! :)
Further bulletins as events warrant....
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Read through alot of Jeff's thread on RS and I must say that there are some nasty
kids folks on that site that post there.
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Dustin's thread didn't start off much better.
Hopefully they've both calmed down for good now.
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I put my vote/referral in for Jeff today - let the 'Jeff for Prez' machine start rolling! ;)
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Still waiting to hear back from tech support. :-\
Jeff, what is your screen name on StarWars.com--so we'll recognize you on the list (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)?
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Still waiting to hear back from tech support. :-\
Jeff, what is your screen name on StarWars.com--so we'll recognize you on the list (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)?
fanostarwars
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I thought politics weren't allowed here? ;D
When does this end? I guess I can sign back up for the membership to support you Jeff, but have to wait until payday at the end of the month. I'm grinding just for lunch money right now and even had to use change today at Hardee's! Now that sucks and is embarrasing.
:P
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I thought politics weren't allowed here? ;D
When does this end? I guess I can sign back up for the membership to support you Jeff, but have to wait until payday at the end of the month. I'm grinding just for lunch money right now and even had to use change today at Hardee's! Now that sucks and is embarrasing.
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Change is money too last time I checked.
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Anyone have the scoop on uscwannabe?
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Anyone have the scoop on uscwannabe?
http://blogs.starwars.com/webapps/blogs/view-profile.action?userID=5068933
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Someone asked if he was an active member on SW.com. Nope. I've been posting on SW.com since April 2002 and I'd never heard of him. He only has two posts there, and both are in the recruiting feedback thread (http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=246336&tstart=0). So I don't know where the heck he came from, honestly.
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Still waiting to hear back from tech support. :-\
Jeff, what is your screen name on StarWars.com--so we'll recognize you on the list (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)?
fanostarwars
Seriously? Why not use a JediDefender e-mail address? Seems like good advertising...
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Because I created my Hyperspace/StarWars.com user ID like 2-3 years ago, waaaay before I knew I'd be running for Fan Club President.
I'm looking into changing it, but it looks like that is tricky to do... :-\
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Yeah, last year they made it so you can't change your SN anymore. Now the only way it can be changed is to have an admin do it (even the moderators can't). And they almost never do that.
You could post in the Feedback Forum (http://forums.starwars.com/forum.jspa?forumID=46), but I can pretty much guarantee that it'll be denied.
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Yeah, my request to have it changed was summarily dismissed. :(
So, it is what it is - fanostarwars.
Fine with me as I'm just in the race for fun and not really just a corporate shill. ;)
Oh, and there are all those prizes too - can't forget about those. I guess that would be another reason why I decided to run. Did I mention that a good portion of those prizes would invariably be passed on to the fine readers and forum members of JD via a pile of great give-aways! ;D
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Did I mention that a good portion of those prizes would invariably be passed on to the fine readers and forum members of JD via a pile of great give-aways!
Uh oh, you've just given the "what's in it for me?" people a candidate to vote for. ;D
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How long do we have to vote?
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Hmmm, I didn't think of that. I don't know if they'll do it, but it's worth a try. Thanks Chris! :)
Further bulletins as events warrant....
So I heard back from them today, and they did attach the referral. (http://cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/a040.gif) So now you're up to two votes (tied for third place).
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Can I use my Hyperspace Access Code from the Earlier Bird Kit to register and vote? I almost used one and there was a space at the bottom of the page to imput a referal, but it said nothing about the election. Anyone think that would count? If so, I can get you three votes.
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Can I use my Hyperspace Access Code from the Earlier Bird Kit to register and vote? I almost used one and there was a space at the bottom of the page to imput a referal, but it said nothing about the election. Anyone think that would count? If so, I can get you three votes.
Go for it! :)
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When does the voting end? I think this has been asked a few times now in this thread.
Anyways, I'll be glad when it's over. Scum has "VOTE DUSTIN" stuff everwhere and no offense to anyone, but I wish that no site had that stuff all over the place. To me it's just like pushing a political agenda and using one's media to endorse themselves. I see nothing wrong with it in the discussion forums, I just don't like it on front pages. Just my opinion. Will I get bashed for giving my opinion? I hope not but quite often when I try and give it, I do. But I'm glad there isn't a new post on it every day here on the front page like at Scum. That just annoys the living hell out of me, especially with them doing a "Myspace" ad on it. Wow.
And I know it's all in good fun, and it would be cool if Jeff wins. I'm just looking forward to it being over.
:P
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As long as Dustin does NOT win, I'm cool with the winner! 8)
Obviously, I want Jeff to win, but I have no problem with uscwannabe either....
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When does the voting end? I think this has been asked a few times now in this thread.
Anyways, I'll be glad when it's over. Scum has "VOTE DUSTIN" stuff everwhere and no offense to anyone, but I wish that no site had that stuff all over the place. To me it's just like pushing a political agenda and using one's media to endorse themselves. I see nothing wrong with it in the discussion forums, I just don't like it on front pages. Just my opinion. Will I get bashed for giving my opinion? I hope not but quite often when I try and give it, I do. But I'm glad there isn't a new post on it every day here on the front page like at Scum. That just annoys the living hell out of me, especially with them doing a "Myspace" ad on it. Wow.
And I know it's all in good fun, and it would be cool if Jeff wins. I'm just looking forward to it being over.
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I agree with you Justin. I think its really starting to become overkill. They just put up a 2nd announcement on the main page about myspace. Heck, there is even a podcast commercial now. I don't mind people having the Dustin icons, or having it in their signature, but all this constant pushing to vote for Dustin 24/7 is getting tiresome.
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I'd like to see Jeff win it, and I think it would be a lot better for the hobby to see someone like him win it. Dustin has always been nice to me, but I'll never forget the whole banning thing at Scum which always I thought was wrong. It was Philip who had the cool head with me about that and apologized when I was banned for no reason. Dustin was a little less agreeable about what happened. I know a lot of people here don't like either one of them, but I will say that both of them were nice about it to me when I questioned them about it. But if Scum wants to push one of their people there about it, I would have thought that Dan Curto is the guy.
Doom - Thanks, I agree, they're jamming it down people's throats there. Nothing wrong with a banner or a mention once, but geeze I think there was a day with like 5 or 6 posts on their front page about it. Overkill beyond belief.
:P
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So you are saying we shouldn't start adding 3-4 gratuitous VOTE FOR JEFF newsposts every day? ;)
I checked the official site and it appears the contest runs until May 15, 2006. Plenty of time to get those votes in... :D
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Yep, I will be glad when it's over also. Honestly, I am surprised it is being pushed so much to begin with.
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Sp does Jeff have any votes yet?
Looks like the scum guy is gonna get beat anyway.
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I'm not so much for any candidate as I am against Dustin. He's never personally done anything to me, nor has Philip for that matter, they just rub me the wrong way (so to speak). They strike me as the kind of guys who are nominally nice to you when it suits their needs - to promote RS, or get "elected" POTOFC - but in reality couldn't care less about anything other than those goals.
Thank god for uscwannabe. I don't know Jeff, but he seems like a good guy to me, as does the candidate GH recently choose to back, but I don't think either of them have much of a chance against the two front runners. I've been saying that the only thing that would get me to renew my HS membership is an announcement regarding C4, but I might also renew if it will help to keep Dustin from winning. To that end, I can't really see me "voting" for Jeff or Mike, as happy as I'd be to see them win. Although if one or both of them can close the gap, maybe.
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Sp does Jeff have any votes yet?
Heck yeah! I'm tied for THIRD PLACE! :)
Um... yeah I have 3 votes.
1. uscwannabe 26
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 20
3. fanostarwars 3
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Can I use my Hyperspace Access Code from the Earlier Bird Kit to register and vote? I almost used one and there was a space at the bottom of the page to imput a referal, but it said nothing about the election. Anyone think that would count? If so, I can get you three votes.
I cracked my EB kit open a month or two ago and the access code was expired. Maybe it's only the "newer" sets that still have a valid code??
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I'd really love to know who uscwannabe is. I've never heard of him on StarWars.com, TheForce.net, the Galactic Senate, or anywhere else I frequent. He just came out of nowhere.
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I'd really love to know who uscwannabe is. I've never heard of him on StarWars.com, TheForce.net, the Galactic Senate, or anywhere else I frequent. He just came out of nowhere.
Believe it or not there are Star Wars fans who don't post on any message boards, it is possible he is among that group, though 26 votes sure is alot of votes for someone who doesn't know many people online to get.
I guess it is possible that it is someone from SW.com/Lucasfilm attempting to generate interest by making it a close race, and none of those are real votes. GL did go to USC afterall, and it saves them money to send someone they may already be sending.
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Poop
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I don't know what you guys are so upset about. This whole thing about Dustin running for Fan Club President is only a goof, that's all. No big deal. And I think, between these few, jokey announcements they've got about it, and the embedded links that pop up everytime you hover over something that's even remotely marketable regarding Star Wars, their front page is just as good as it's always been:
Just The Good 'Ol Boys
Posted by Dustin on March 31, 2006 at 11:42 AM CST:
I want to give a shout out to all my Star Wars buddies in KSWCC ( Kentucky Star Wars Collectors Club ) for throwing their support to the Roberts & R2 In '06 Star Wars Fan Club Presidential campaign! I try to attend a few of their local meetings thoughout the year and whenever I do it always is a great day of Star Wars collecting fun! Check 'em out online here!
Got Myspace?
Posted by Dustin on March 30, 2006 at 11:31 AM CST:
Jump on board the Roberts & R2 bandwagon!
Special Thanks To Wattographs!
Posted by Dustin on March 30, 2006 at 11:09 AM CST:
The team over at Wattographs.com has thrown their support behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 Star Wars Fan Club Presidential campaign! Wattographs if you didn't know already is a website that specializes in Star Wars autographs! If you haven't already, check them out and bookmark their site today!
Special Thanks to CommTechGuide.com
Posted by Dustin on March 27, 2006 at 07:08 PM CST:
Remember the CommTech Reader from Episode One? Well there's a website called CommTechGuide.com that specializes in this beautiful hunk of plastic! Like did you know about plans to create another CommTech reader?! Stop by and check out some of the images of what could have been right here! Special thanks to the CommTech Crew for backing the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President!
Special Thanks To Star Wars Limited Edition
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 12:30 PM CST:
Star Wars Limited Edition deals with high end collectible news. They've unanimously decided to throw their support behind Roberts & R2 In '06! Check them out today!
Special Thanks To The Chewseum!
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 10:46 AM CST:
The Chewseum has jumped on board the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon! Similar to my very own R2D2Central.com, the Chewseum is a website dedicated to collectibles surrounding our very favorite Wookiee, Chewbacca!
Special Thanks To Yakface.com
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 09:40 AM CST:
Thanks to my old friends at Yakface.com for puting their support behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! As many folks know, I previously worked at Yakface.com before making the move to Rebelscum.com back in 2000. Thanks for the support guys! If you've never heard of them before (gasp!) be sure to stop by and bookmark the site today!
Special Thanks To The 3+3/4" Archives
Posted by Dustin on March 25, 2006 at 09:52 AM CST:
My man Kevin from the 3+3/4" Archives wrote in supporting my campaign for Fan Club President. If you were a toy from a bad '80s TV show, you'll find your picture here, at the 3+3/4" Archives!
Special Thanks To Deathstarplans2.com
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 09:58 PM CST:
I've gotta say I truly appreciate it when a competitor steps up and jumps on the Roberts & R2 In '06 Bandwagon! Deathstarplans2.com know what it takes to make a stand for what you belive in! Check them out here!
Special Thanks To The Star Wars Fan's Union
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 03:30 PM CST:
The Star Wars Fan's Union has given their support to the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! The Star Wars Fan's Union is a GameSpot Union dedicated to the games of the Star Wars galaxy. Click here to check them out!
Roberts & R2 In '06 Update!
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 06:21 AM CST:
Hey guys & Gals, I'm up by three but looking for a solid lead! If you haven't already, please consider subscribing or renewing your Hyperspace membership! Also, when doing so be sure to use "dustin@rebelscum.com" as the referral email address! Thanks so much I truly appreciate your support! R2 says he does too!
Special Thanks To Reviewstarwars.com
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 03:41 AM CST:
Arnie and Marjorie from the collectibles podcast over at Reviewstarwars.com have notified R&R2 HQ that they are fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Stop on over and give them a listen today!
Special Thanks To Roguedesigner.net
Posted by Dustin on March 23, 2006 at 03:58 PM CST:
Roguedesigner.net have stated their support for the Roberts & R2 In '06 by adding a banner to their website linking back to R&R2 HQ! Be sure to stop by and check our Roguedesigner.net today!
Special Thanks To OSWCC
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 11:10 PM CST:
The Ohio Star Wars Collectors Club ( OSWCC ) is fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! If you live in Ohio and collect Star Wars, this is the place for you! Stop by and sign up today!
Special Thanks To The Emulator Strikes Back
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 10:41 PM CST:
Gotta give kudos to my good friends over at The Emulator Strikes Back. This game emulation website is fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Drop in on them today and say hello!
Special Thanks To Lightsabre
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 08:51 PM CST:
Thanks to the staff at Lightsabre for showing their support of the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Be sure to stop by and check them out! There's a lot of good interviews over there!
Special Thanks To The 501st Special Ops
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 06:00 PM CST:
The Special Ops Detachment of the Mighty 501st are backing Roberts & R2 In '06! Shouldn't you too?! Click here to find out all there is to know about what it takes to be a member of the 501st Special Ops Detachment!
Special Thanks To SWStartours.net
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 03:30 PM CST:
Special thanks to SWStartours.net for their support for the Dustin & R2 In '06 campaign! If you enjoy Star Tours then you're gonna love this website dedicated to everything and anything Star Tours related. Former Rebelscum team mate, Kris with a "K" is the man with the plan behind this little gem on the internet! Stop by today and check it out!
Special Thanks To The Rebel Legion
Posted by Dustin on March 21, 2006 at 09:10 PM CST:
Many thanks to my good friends over at the Rebel Legion! They've jumped onto the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon and are helping us blaze a path to victory! The Rebel Legion is the premier Rebel costuming group in the Star Wars community. Stop by and check them out today!
Dustin For President
Posted by Philip on March 20, 2006 at 09:39 AM CST:
I gotta say, I'm underwhelmed by the subscriptions...
Special Thanks To Astromech.net
Posted by Dustin on March 19, 2006 at 08:19 PM CST:
I'd like to take time out from the campaign trail here and recognize Astromech.net as our very first "Friends of DLR". They've taken the time to help spread the word by placing a banner on their website supporting the Roberts & R2 in '06 campaign for Fan Club President. We like to recognize those who support the mission. Please take time to see what they're all about!
Rebelscum Invades MySpace.com
Posted by Dustin on March 16, 2006 at 06:26 AM CST:
Hey everyone, I'm up and running on Myspace.com and am looking to expand my network of friends! Stop by and send an invite to join my "Inner Circle" of Star Wars buddies! You can check me out on MySpace.com right here!
Dustin For Fan Club President!
Posted by Philip on March 13, 2006 at 09:20 PM CST:
No kidding. As you know they're having a Hyperspace signup contest over at Starwars.com. We've decided to have a bit of fun with it. Read all about it here.
See? They said themselves, they're just having a bit of fun with it. It's all a big, tongue-in-cheek joke. Nobody's taking this very seriously, except for you guys. Nothing to get all bent out of shape about--and besides, there's only a month and a half of this left.
No big deal, fellas.
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No big deal, fellas.
Exactly. It's not like Philip would try and merge RS with another site, say SW.com, and become the official site. He'd never be interested in that. ;)
So vote for Jeff. He's against global conspiracy. :P
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Can I use my Hyperspace Access Code from the Earlier Bird Kit to register and vote? I almost used one and there was a space at the bottom of the page to imput a referal, but it said nothing about the election. Anyone think that would count? If so, I can get you three votes.
I cracked my EB kit open a month or two ago and the access code was expired. Maybe it's only the "newer" sets that still have a valid code??
Yeah, I just discovered that today while trying to sign up. :'( Sorry Jeff. You still have one vote from me coming though.
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I'm not losing sleep over is, I'm just sick and tired of seeing the updates about this on there non-stop. I want Star Wars news, not RS's political agenda news. There are a hell of a lot more interesting things that they could be mentioning in their forums like someone's hard work on a collection, a custom, a photonovel, or even mentioned a good trader report. Something good for the community and maybe giving their members an honorary mention once in a while. Nice mentions like that do happen here a lot more, but it would be nice to see it even more often if possible.
Anyway's they've mentioned a thing about Dustin over 20 times now in less than 20 days. It's like the media endorsing their candidate which I hate. So I'll be glad when it's over and won't have too see a nerdy pic of him trying to look cool every time I go there.
:P
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I'd really love to know who uscwannabe is. I've never heard of him on StarWars.com, TheForce.net, the Galactic Senate, or anywhere else I frequent. He just came out of nowhere.
Believe it or not there are Star Wars fans who don't post on any message boards, it is possible he is among that group, though 26 votes sure is alot of votes for someone who doesn't know many people online to get.
That's what I was getting at. :)
I guess it is possible that it is someone from SW.com/Lucasfilm attempting to generate interest by making it a close race, and none of those are real votes. GL did go to USC afterall, and it saves them money to send someone they may already be sending.
Now that would piss me off. >:(
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Check it out - Jeff is in the lead!!!! (http://www.yoururl.com)
April Fools!
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Someone hurry up and win the lottery so we can buy 100 memberships and make that come true! :P
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I checked the votes and I didn't see Jeff even on there. No Jsmentek@jedidefender.com ??? I thought you were in third Jeff according to you. Are you under fanostarwars or mkdcswcc.
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I checked the votes and I didn't see Jeff even on there. No Jsmentek@jedidefender.com ??? I thought you were in third Jeff according to you. Are you under fanostarwars or mkdcswcc.
Sp does Jeff have any votes yet?
Heck yeah! I'm tied for THIRD PLACE! :)
Um... yeah I have 3 votes.
1. uscwannabe 26
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 20
3. fanostarwars 3
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thanks DSJ for clearing that up.
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You know Jeff, if anything you should throw your support USC's way!! To make sure Dustin doesn't win! Is that possible?? I mean in order to catch up to Dustin or USC, it's going to take a lot of memberships, I don't see that happening, especially with them getting new memberships while you're trying to catch up!!
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You know Jeff, if anything you should throw your support USC's way!! To make sure Dustin doesn't win! Is that possible?? I mean in order to catch up to Dustin or USC, it's going to take a lot of memberships, I don't see that happening, especially with them getting new memberships while you're trying to catch up!!
She's got a point. This campaign, though I doubt anyone ever though it would be successful anyhow, is going to fail miserably. There is still time to shift gears and throw the support behind USCwannabe, if in fact the goal here is to keep Dustin from winning.
These are the results as of 4/7/06:
1. uscwannabe 37
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 30
3. mkDCSWCC 9
4. fanostarwars 3
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I mean I hate to say it, but you're not going to win. There's no chance, not unless every one of the JD folks buys a membership before the contest ends, since that's not going to happen, why not concede and throw your support to USC!! He has one hell of a chance at winning! I think he's doing a great job at keeping Dustin at arms length, even with all the campaigning Dustin's doing!
VOTE USCFan!! That is if you really want to stick it to the scum and Dustin! ;) In the end, what matters most, that you get support or that Dustin loses?
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I mean I hate to say it, but you're not going to win
WHAT?!?!?? I still have a chance!!
Don't be doubting on my campaign!! >:(
Looking back, I guess I should have been spamming the forums and the front page everyday with constant reminders... ::)
As for USCWANNABE, he's got enough support - heck even Master Replicas is promoting him in their blog (http://masterreplicas.com/customer/blogs/blogs_list.php?1p=2&)!!
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Either way, a vote for Jeff or USC is a vote that Dustin doesn't get. So in the end, you're accomplishing the same thing.
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Not really, any support for Jeff could be going to USC Wannabe, that could cement his lead and get him the Presidency or which would mean more money would have to be spent by Wise if he were to try to buy off the election!!
You have to ask yourself, what is it that you truly want! To get a couple of votes and "we're behind you" or "if we could afford it we would support you" comments or to actually keep Dustin from winning? If it's the second choice, then throw your support to USC, and help keep him down!
As far as spamming the forums, it's their forums to spam! You can do the same here, hell Zod has been allowed to represent your side over there as well, contrary to what was said over here! So let's not be bitter about that! You guys just came in late, and well don't have the same pull as Dustin! I mean hell look at all the sites backing him up! Look at the one site backing USC, he needs the support in order to pull that win away!
If Wise is to buy the election, then so be it, but he'll have a lot more money to spend if he chooses to do, that is if you throw your support to USC!
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Either way, a vote for Jeff or USC is a vote that Dustin doesn't get. So in the end, you're accomplishing the same thing.
Not really. A vote for USC will widen the margin of victory over Dustin, whereas a vote for Jeff causes no gain in the lead for USC.
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You have to ask yourself, what is it that you truly want! To get a couple of votes and "we're behind you" or "if we could afford it we would support you" comments or to actually keep Dustin from winning? If it's the second choice, then throw your support to USC, and help keep him down!
LJ, I think you're starting to take this a little too seriously.
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Nah, I don't think I am Jesse. I'm just pointing out what the better course of action would be, depending on what Jeff and JD want to accomplish! I mean it really doesn't affect me in the least, as to who wins out of the three, I still won't get any of the loot, nor the trip!!
I just want to know if Jeff thinks he can really win?? If so, what's he's going to do about getting his name out. If not, why not throw support to the one guy that looks like he can beat Dustin!! Dressel gets it, it's not about dissing Jeff, it's about being realistic!! ;D If he stays in, he better go out there and start campaigning more and getting his name out there at other sites!! ;)
Remember those three votes that Jeff has could have gone to USC fan and given him a 10 membership lead over Dustin!! As will all future votes! Of course Wise could buy the election, but it's gonna cost him!! ;D
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LJ, I think you're starting to take this a little too seriously.
We're a bunch of adults who spend our time and money chasing down little plastic space men all over our neighborhood. I think we all take something a little too seriously.
:)
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LJ, I think you're starting to take this a little too seriously.
We're a bunch of adults who spend our time and money chasing down little plastic space men all over our neighborhood. I think we all take something a little too seriously.
:)
No doubt about that. ;)
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I just want to know if Jeff thinks he can really win??
I think I have about as much chance to win as the day I started the race..
If you don't "get" my campaign and what it's all about by now, you're never going to really understand my platform!!
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Remember those three votes that Jeff has could have gone to USC fan and given him a 10 membership lead over Dustin!! As will all future votes! Of course Wise could buy the election, but it's gonna cost him!! ;D
Explain to me why, instead of voting for Jeff whom I know and like, I would have thrown my vote towards someone I've never even heard of and know nothing about!! I could care less about "keeping Dustin down"--I voted "for JediDefender" rather than "against RebelScum"!! It's like voting for a third party candidate: some might call it being a spoiler, but at least I voted the way I wanted to vote and I can be satisfied with that!!
Besides, it looks like USC is going to win regardless of my help!!
The man. The legend. The ice cream maker. Smentek-Hood '06!!!!!
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Well it would only matter if you really don't want Dustin to win, that's the only reason it'd matter!! But if you just want to show support to your bud, then more power to ya! Simple as that, no need to get testy about it! Jeff, as Han Solo said, "Good luck, you;re gonna need it!" ;)
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I'll ask the same question I asked Dustin! Are you going to share the swag with your supporters?? I mean after all you are getting a free friggin plane ride to SDCC, share in the wealth to your supporters!! I was actually thinking of subscribing!!
Uhh...first you were worried about goodies, and now your worried about how to stick it to Dustin without voting for Jeff? I USC gonna share his stuff with you?
Kevin
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Uhh...first you were worried about goodies, and now your worried about how to stick it to Dustin without voting for Jeff? I USC gonna share his stuff with you?
I doubt it, I don't know USCfan. It shouldn't be a promblem to ask question should it?
My questions today were asked because I just wanted clarification as to what Jeff really wanted to accomplish. What his ultimate goals were? To defeat Dustin or to just show that Dustin wasn't the only game in town! From the other thread that lead up to this one, it seemed that most of the JD'ers were wanting someone to defeat Dustin. I just don't see that happening, no offense Jeff but to come back and catch up to 27 subscriptions from 3 is going to be hard, even with an entire month left.
But I see that Jeff is in it to run and fight the good fight! So much luck to em!
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As far as I know, it's impossible to kill yourself twice, but what the hell:
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So would Jeff's running equate to Ross Perot in the early 90s?
:P
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So would Jeff's running equate to Ross Perot in the early 90s?
:P
If Ross ran to show how much of a fool his fellow candidate was and how obnoxious their campaign was, then yes.
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Summed up in one sentence.
There's really nothing more that has to be said....
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Either way, a vote for Jeff or USC is a vote that Dustin doesn't get. So in the end, you're accomplishing the same thing.
Not really. A vote for USC will widen the margin of victory over Dustin, whereas a vote for Jeff causes no gain in the lead for USC.
OK, my second sentence may not be true. But my first one is - a vote for Jeff or USC is a vote taken away from Dustin.
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I just wanted to post this update:
Garrison Carida Throws Support to Roberts & R2!
Posted by Dustin on April 10, 2006 at 10:00 AM CST:
First to advance, last to retreat...
Special Thanks To The Following
Posted by Dustin on April 9, 2006 at 12:39 PM CST:
R2 & I have been super busy hitting up the midwest trying to capture the undecided votes in our campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! All the while we've been adding tons of support online as well. Here are a few new websites who've decided to support our cause! Thanks everyone for your support! Aquacell Productions - KerryEarnhardtFans.com - Star Wars y Mas! ( Hola mi amigos! )
Thank You Master Replicas!
Posted by Dustin on April 7, 2006 at 08:04 PM CST:
Master Replicas shows their support for Roberts & R2...
Special Thanks To Matt Busch
Posted by Dustin on April 7, 2006 at 11:36 AM CST:
The Rock Star of Illustration is backing Roberts for Fan Club President...
Special Thanks Across the Pond
Posted by Dustin on April 6, 2006 at 10:04 AM CST:
With only 39 days left in the competition, the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President is still going strong! Today we've added a nice handful of Star Wars fansites from across the pond to our ever growing list of supporters who believe in the cause! Please take a moment to check out these fellow Star Wars fans' own websites to see just what they're all about! Mintinbox.net - Trash Compactor Chronicles - Zee Zee's Star Wars Books
Special Thanks To Joe Corroney!
Posted by Dustin on April 4, 2006 at 09:54 PM CST:
My good friend Joe Corroney has decided to jump on the Roberts & R2 bandwagon! Thats right Joe Corroney supports Roberts to be the next Star Wars Fan Club President! Joe also mentioned he had been super busy these days drawing Spike Vs. Dracula for IDW Publishing. The first two issues are on sale right now and you can check out the covers and interior art for the series at Joe's website right here, and read more about the new series and his many upcoming SW projects in his Starwars.com blog!
Special Thanks To The Custom Alliance
Posted by Dustin on April 1, 2006 at 01:01 AM CST:
A Big "What up"! Goes out to my customizing buddies over at The Custom Alliance! They've decided to back the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! Click here to find out how you can help too!
Just The Good 'Ol Boys
Posted by Dustin on March 31, 2006 at 11:42 AM CST:
I want to give a shout out to all my Star Wars buddies in KSWCC ( Kentucky Star Wars Collectors Club ) for throwing their support to the Roberts & R2 In '06 Star Wars Fan Club Presidential campaign! I try to attend a few of their local meetings thoughout the year and whenever I do it always is a great day of Star Wars collecting fun! Check 'em out online here!
Got Myspace?
Posted by Dustin on March 30, 2006 at 11:31 AM CST:
Jump on board the Roberts & R2 bandwagon!
Special Thanks To Wattographs!
Posted by Dustin on March 30, 2006 at 11:09 AM CST:
The team over at Wattographs.com has thrown their support behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 Star Wars Fan Club Presidential campaign! Wattographs if you didn't know already is a website that specializes in Star Wars autographs! If you haven't already, check them out and bookmark their site today!
Special Thanks to CommTechGuide.com
Posted by Dustin on March 27, 2006 at 07:08 PM CST:
Remember the CommTech Reader from Episode One? Well there's a website called CommTechGuide.com that specializes in this beautiful hunk of plastic! Like did you know about plans to create another CommTech reader?! Stop by and check out some of the images of what could have been right here! Special thanks to the CommTech Crew for backing the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President!
Special Thanks To Star Wars Limited Edition
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 12:30 PM CST:
Star Wars Limited Edition deals with high end collectible news. They've unanimously decided to throw their support behind Roberts & R2 In '06! Check them out today!
Special Thanks To The Chewseum!
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 10:46 AM CST:
The Chewseum has jumped on board the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon! Similar to my very own R2D2Central.com, the Chewseum is a website dedicated to collectibles surrounding our very favorite Wookiee, Chewbacca!
Special Thanks To Yakface.com
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 09:40 AM CST:
Thanks to my old friends at Yakface.com for puting their support behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! As many folks know, I previously worked at Yakface.com before making the move to Rebelscum.com back in 2000. Thanks for the support guys! If you've never heard of them before (gasp!) be sure to stop by and bookmark the site today!
Special Thanks To The 3+3/4" Archives
Posted by Dustin on March 25, 2006 at 09:52 AM CST:
My man Kevin from the 3+3/4" Archives wrote in supporting my campaign for Fan Club President. If you were a toy from a bad '80s TV show, you'll find your picture here, at the 3+3/4" Archives!
Special Thanks To Deathstarplans2.com
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 09:58 PM CST:
I've gotta say I truly appreciate it when a competitor steps up and jumps on the Roberts & R2 In '06 Bandwagon! Deathstarplans2.com know what it takes to make a stand for what you belive in! Check them out here!
Special Thanks To The Star Wars Fan's Union
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 03:30 PM CST:
The Star Wars Fan's Union has given their support to the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! The Star Wars Fan's Union is a GameSpot Union dedicated to the games of the Star Wars galaxy. Click here to check them out!
Roberts & R2 In '06 Update!
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 06:21 AM CST:
Hey guys & Gals, I'm up by three but looking for a solid lead! If you haven't already, please consider subscribing or renewing your Hyperspace membership! Also, when doing so be sure to use "dustin@rebelscum.com" as the referral email address! Thanks so much I truly appreciate your support! R2 says he does too!
Special Thanks To Reviewstarwars.com
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 03:41 AM CST:
Arnie and Marjorie from the collectibles podcast over at Reviewstarwars.com have notified R&R2 HQ that they are fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Stop on over and give them a listen today!
Special Thanks To Roguedesigner.net
Posted by Dustin on March 23, 2006 at 03:58 PM CST:
Roguedesigner.net have stated their support for the Roberts & R2 In '06 by adding a banner to their website linking back to R&R2 HQ! Be sure to stop by and check our Roguedesigner.net today!
Special Thanks To OSWCC
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 11:10 PM CST:
The Ohio Star Wars Collectors Club ( OSWCC ) is fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! If you live in Ohio and collect Star Wars, this is the place for you! Stop by and sign up today!
Special Thanks To The Emulator Strikes Back
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 10:41 PM CST:
Gotta give kudos to my good friends over at The Emulator Strikes Back. This game emulation website is fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Drop in on them today and say hello!
Special Thanks To Lightsabre
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 08:51 PM CST:
Thanks to the staff at Lightsabre for showing their support of the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Be sure to stop by and check them out! There's a lot of good interviews over there!
Special Thanks To The 501st Special Ops
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 06:00 PM CST:
The Special Ops Detachment of the Mighty 501st are backing Roberts & R2 In '06! Shouldn't you too?! Click here to find out all there is to know about what it takes to be a member of the 501st Special Ops Detachment!
Special Thanks To SWStartours.net
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 03:30 PM CST:
Special thanks to SWStartours.net for their support for the Dustin & R2 In '06 campaign! If you enjoy Star Tours then you're gonna love this website dedicated to everything and anything Star Tours related. Former Rebelscum team mate, Kris with a "K" is the man with the plan behind this little gem on the internet! Stop by today and check it out!
Special Thanks To The Rebel Legion
Posted by Dustin on March 21, 2006 at 09:10 PM CST:
Many thanks to my good friends over at the Rebel Legion! They've jumped onto the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon and are helping us blaze a path to victory! The Rebel Legion is the premier Rebel costuming group in the Star Wars community. Stop by and check them out today!
Dustin For President
Posted by Philip on March 20, 2006 at 09:39 AM CST:
I gotta say, I'm underwhelmed by the subscriptions...
Special Thanks To Astromech.net
Posted by Dustin on March 19, 2006 at 08:19 PM CST:
I'd like to take time out from the campaign trail here and recognize Astromech.net as our very first "Friends of DLR". They've taken the time to help spread the word by placing a banner on their website supporting the Roberts & R2 in '06 campaign for Fan Club President. We like to recognize those who support the mission. Please take time to see what they're all about!
Rebelscum Invades MySpace.com
Posted by Dustin on March 16, 2006 at 06:26 AM CST:
Hey everyone, I'm up and running on Myspace.com and am looking to expand my network of friends! Stop by and send an invite to join my "Inner Circle" of Star Wars buddies! You can check me out on MySpace.com right here!
Dustin For Fan Club President!
Posted by Philip on March 13, 2006 at 09:20 PM CST:
No kidding. As you know they're having a Hyperspace signup contest over at Starwars.com. We've decided to have a bit of fun with it. Read all about it here.
Again, I'll stress that this is not about "winning" the contest. As has been stated time and again, this is only about having some fun with the whole thing. They really don't even care who wins, actually--and we're all winners from all the fun and excitement this has caused. And we only have just over a month of this fun left, so let's knock off the seriousness and negativity and join along in the silly, silly hijinks.
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No No get out of the way, fun is being missed... gah!
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Looks like USC still has the lead at 53 to Dustin's 45.
This pleases me. :)
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USC - 60 Dustin -50
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Up until now though, Dustin has probably gotten all of his referrals through the endless spamming. I would imagine that in the final hours, Rebelscum will start registering accounts themselves to put him over the top.
It's what I would do if the race were that close and I were in Dustin's shoes. Basically just spend the money you were going to spend to go to Comic Con anyway.
Then I'd give the accounts away.
Still wondering how the heck this USC guy has so many referrals. Does he really have 60 friends? Is he picking up referrals from people sick of the spam? I'm really curious.
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You know what I didn't know about all this?? I had no idea Master Replica is endorsing Dustin. He has it listed on his endorsement page. I know they had a blurb about it in their blog a while back but I don't recall them stating "We endorse Dustin" or "We endorse USC" or anything to that effect.
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Up until now though, Dustin has probably gotten all of his referrals through the endless spamming. I would imagine that in the final hours, Rebelscum will start registering accounts themselves to put him over the top.
It's what I would do if the race were that close and I were in Dustin's shoes. Basically just spend the money you were going to spend to go to Comic Con anyway.
Then I'd give the accounts away.
That would be a crappy way to win, and I'm not even sure you could do it. Wouldn't you have to have legitimate names, e-mail addresses and home addresses for each "member" who signed up? It's not like one person or entity could donate $800 and then assign memeberships to people after the fact. However, I wouldn't put it past RS to figure out a way to do this, even if it meant buying memberships or membership extensions for all the staff members at the last minute.
I'll just be glad when it's over. Assuming Dustin loses that is. If you think you're seeing spam now, just imagine how often we'd see/here about him being FC president if he wins. That would probably be the proverbial straw that broke my back with regard to visiting RS.
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That would be a crappy way to win, and I'm not even sure you could do it. Wouldn't you have to have legitimate names, e-mail addresses and home addresses for each "member" who signed up? It's not like one person or entity could donate $800 and then assign memeberships to people after the fact.
It would be very easy. They could just sign random staff members, friends, etc up. OR...they could just send 40 kits to one address using a bunch of different names. It's not about "referrals", it's about selling subscriptions, and I'm sure Hyperspace doesn't care how many go to one place, or to fake people.
I predict this is exactly what will happen, and I don't think it's a crappy way to win at all.
It's just like those mothers that sell the hell out of Girl Scout cookies during the competition and then end up buying 20 more cases for themselves (which they bring to work and sell to their coworkers) to help their kid win a prize.
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That would be a crappy way to win, and I'm not even sure you could do it. Wouldn't you have to have legitimate names, e-mail addresses and home addresses for each "member" who signed up? It's not like one person or entity could donate $800 and then assign memeberships to people after the fact.
It would be very easy. They could just sign random staff members, friends, etc up. OR...they could just send 40 kits to one address using a bunch of different names. It's not about "referrals", it's about selling subscriptions, and I'm sure Hyperspace doesn't care how many go to one place, or to fake people.
I predict this is exactly what will happen, and I don't think it's a crappy way to win at all.
It's just like those mothers that sell the hell out of Girl Scout cookies during the competition and then end up buying 20 more cases for themselves (which they bring to work and sell to their coworkers) to help their kid win a prize.
Exactly. So all the little girls who bust their asses to sell cookies so they can go on a trip or win a prize they could never afford themselves LOSE while the rich girls with the rich parents who could have just sent them on the trip or bought them the prize themselves WIN.
Crappy.
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Exactly. So all the little girls who bust their asses to sell cookies so they can go on a trip or win a prize they could never afford themselves LOSE while the rich girls with the rich parents who could have just sent them on the trip or bought them the prize themselves WIN.
Crappy.
Not to fuel the fire, but I totally agree. I'm against buying votes, which is exactly what this is. We should have a true fan win, not the guy with the most backing and money. I think the buying of votes would put a big hole in their "we are just doing this for fun" speech.
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Not to fuel the fire, but I totally agree. I'm against buying votes, which is exactly what this is.
First of all, this entire contest is about buying votes. It has nothing to do with your level of fandom, your platform, how many friends you have, etc. It's all about "how many subscriptions can you sell?". In an arena like that, I don't know that there's anything wrong with buying a few to put yourself over the top. When I was a kid I sold "Captain O" products (stationary and stuff) door to door, so I could win cool prizes. I remember when I was a few points away from the prize I wanted, I had not problem buying an item for myself (or selling more to the family). I don't see how this is any different. Dustin is running for a free trip to Comic Con. If he was down by 4 votes, he'd be stupid NOT to buy a few subscriptions and pop himself over the top. That trip is expensive.
We should have a true fan win, not the guy with the most backing and money. I think the buying of votes would put a big hole in their "we are just doing this for fun" speech.
You don't think that Dustin is a true Star Wars fan? I know some of you guys don't like the dude, but come on. Just because he works for Rebelscum doesn't mean he's not a fan just like (and probably even more than) a lot of other people out there. As for "doing this for fun", it's become very obvious it's not just for fun anymore. He's trying VERY hard to win.....and that's why I think eventually some cash will have to be laid down. Maybe that USC guy is already taking money out of pocket, who knows?
Like any election, the person who has the best campaign and/or the most cash will win. Dustin has the backing of tons of sites, plus the Rebelscum juggernaut behind him. All of that's free.
Whoever this USC person is, they're doing it rather covertly. Do they really have that many friends? Are they picking up the referrals of people who don't want Dustin to win? Is it Lucasfilm just screwing around giving Dustin a goal to beat? No matter who that dude is....he's doing incredible for having no campaign at all.
Still...When it comes down to the last week or two, I'd imagine if it's really close, the candidates could throw a few bucks towards their free trip to Comic Con into the kitty themselves. Up until this point, it's all been free, right?
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Are we talking a couple of boxes or cases of cookies?
What's the maximum before it becomes "unethical?"
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Are we talking a couple of boxes or cases of cookies?
What's the maximum before it becomes "unethical?"
As far as Girl scout cookies go, I think it's definitely in the cases these days. Gone are the days when they would go around their neighborhood with a wagon. Now, one mom takes her kids to Safeway to stand outside (both doors) peppering customers with sales pitches.
Another mom takes hers to the ferry terminal, where they ask every car waiting for the boat to buy a box (My last trip across, I bought two).
One co-worker buys several cases from his daughter then sells them at work a few weeks every year. I've bought a few of those.
In the end, yeah....some girl scout without overzealous parents may lose out on whatever the prize is.....but the Girl Scouts as a whole win.
Dustin is surely making the folks at Hyperspace happy. Imagine if he was taking referrals for a product that DIDN'T suck ass.
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Dustin isn't trying for a free trip to Comic Con. The company he works for will send him regardless if he wins or doesn't. And buying your own votes is cheap, but if that's what you feel you need to do to win this "fun" competition, then so be it. I had/am having fun seeing our mockery of it every time I load our main page. It's all about the fun, right?
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It's all about the fun, right?
Dude, it is totally about the fun. That's all it's ever been about. Do you guys not see the fun in the pictures, banners, and links all over the place? Or the thirty front page "news stories" mentions in about as many days? [And forget about the one where Philip said he was "underwhelmed by the (lack of) subscriptions" - that was all in fun, too.] It's just that you guys at JediDefender are so eager to nitpick at anything having to do with Rebelscum that you just refuse to see how much fun everybody else is having with this campaign.
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Not to fuel the fire, but I totally agree. I'm against buying votes, which is exactly what this is.
First of all, this entire contest is about buying votes. It has nothing to do with your level of fandom, your platform, how many friends you have, etc. It's all about "how many subscriptions can you sell?". In an arena like that, I don't know that there's anything wrong with buying a few to put yourself over the top. When I was a kid I sold "Captain O" products (stationary and stuff) door to door, so I could win cool prizes. I remember when I was a few points away from the prize I wanted, I had not problem buying an item for myself (or selling more to the family). I don't see how this is any different. Dustin is running for a free trip to Comic Con. If he was down by 4 votes, he'd be stupid NOT to buy a few subscriptions and pop himself over the top. That trip is expensive.
Yeah, I understand what the contest is about...I guess my gripe there is just about the ****** contest itself.
You don't think that Dustin is a true Star Wars fan? I know some of you guys don't like the dude, but come on. Just because he works for Rebelscum doesn't mean he's not a fan just like (and probably even more than) a lot of other people out there. As for "doing this for fun", it's become very obvious it's not just for fun anymore. He's trying VERY hard to win.....and that's why I think eventually some cash will have to be laid down. Maybe that USC guy is already taking money out of pocket, who knows?
I phrased that wrong, sorry. I didn't mean "true fan" in the sense that Dustin wasn't a true fan, but in the sense that I'd rather see someone win that didn't send out messages to the entire community to support him and banners on 30 different sites.
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I'd rather see someone win that didn't send out messages to the entire community to support him and banners on 30 different sites.
Well, again...I suppose like any election, it's not about the best candidate for the job, but the one who has the most backing.
Personally...I don't see how this contest is anything but a drive to sign up people for that piece of **** Hyperspace service, so Dustin deserves to win it as much as anyone.
I would have liked to have seen Jeff give him a run for his money to make things interesting, but I'm underwhelmed by the support for him so far. It sucks that this USC guy isn't a collector we all know, I'd love to find out how he's getting all the referrals.
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Buying the win would be so comically petty and lame that I don't know if I want it to NOT happen. ;D
Not that the whole thing isn't about buying wins anyway and whatnot, but yeah, whoring up as many phantom accounts as you could to win it all at the end "just because you can afford it", would be too priceless really. And not unexpected, and I agree with Josh it'd be easy enough. I could find 10 people to give accounts to, and I don't have a lot of friends even...
It is all "fun" though! Yay!
Where's my hindenberg photo of fun falling on everyone?
but I'm underwhelmed
Us too, look for a big newspost on it in the near future! >:(
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Latest results (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html):
1. uscwannabe 70
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 57
3. mkDCSWCC 9
4. fanostarwars 3
Jeff, you really need to get on the ball if you really want to win this thing. >:(
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He still can do it... I have faith.
All we have to do is get the backing of what's left of the Star Wars "community".
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Jeff, you really need to get on the ball if you really want to win this thing. >:(
:'(
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There's no crying in politics man!
Get ahold of yourself!
*grabs Jeff and slaps him*
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There's no crying in politics man!
Get ahold of yourself!
*grabs Jeff and slaps him*
No no, we need to be asking ourselves, how can we spin this in our favor? Maybe a front page piece portraying Jeff being so concerned for the future of the SW comunity, he was moved to tears by the efforts the community is making in his direction?
Yes? Yes.
Kevin
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He still can do it... I have faith.
All we have to do is get the backing of what's left of the Star Wars "community".
Well, there' still Yakface and GH, right?
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He still can do it... I have faith.
All we have to do is get the backing of what's left of the Star Wars "community".
Well, there' still Yakface and GH, right?
Actually we've already thrown our support, and the considerable fandom influence that comes with it, ::) behind Mike from the DC area Star Wars fan club. I can't blame you for not knowing that though since we've neglected to mention it in a new item on our front page every hour.
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No no, I'm talking pivotal sites like StarWhores.com, StarWarsFansAndWomen.com, and StarSausage.com. That's the kind of support we need to pull this off.
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No no, I'm talking pivotal sites like StarWhores.com, StarWarsFansAndWomen.com, and StarSausage.com. That's the kind of support we need to pull this off.
Should I be offended? ???
;)
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No no, I'm talking pivotal sites like StarWhores.com, StarWarsFansAndWomen.com, and StarSausage.com. That's the kind of support we need to pull this off.
Should I be offended? ???
;)
Sorry Tracy, we didn't mean to make you feel inferior about your StarSausage.com website. :P
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No no, I'm talking pivotal sites like StarWhores.com, StarWarsFansAndWomen.com, and StarSausage.com. That's the kind of support we need to pull this off.
Should I be offended? ???
;)
Sorry Tracy, we didn't mean to make you feel inferior about your StarSausage.com website. :P
Well Jesse, it wouldn't be what it is today if you weren't our "GNT" in the forums there.......... ;D
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HA! StarSausage - that's hilarious :D
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Well Jesse, it wouldn't be what it is today if you weren't our "GNT" in the forums there.......... ;D
Damn right. I put the Sausage in StarSausage. 8)
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Well Jesse, it wouldn't be what it is today if you weren't our "GNT" in the forums there.......... ;D
Damn right. I put the Sausage in StarSausage. 8)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b140/tamidala/libbysvienna.jpg)
;)
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Gone are the days when they would go around their neighborhood with a wagon. Now, one mom takes her kids to Safeway to stand outside (both doors) peppering customers with sales pitches.
Hey now. >:( I'll have you know my kid walked for two hours selling cookies and she did a damn fine job of it.
I think that whole subcontext of this thread shows what a huge problem we have. The whole notion of selling cookies is to raise some money and to primarily teach the kids the meaning of hard work and that there's some rejection involved in what you do. All those things you listed are a joke, the kid is doing nothing and learning nothing. The parents are living vicariously through their kids and are pretty much pathetic, IMO. I've no problem with people selling a couple of boxes for their kids to help out AFTER they've made some rounds on their own, just so they can help sell off the minimum the kids are tasked with. But hanging out at Ferry docks to hawk Girl Guide cookies? How meaningless is your life? ::)
And if all elections have come down to is who has the most money, well, then I guess we really all are pretty damn stupid. [/soapbox]
Oh yeah, 139 memberships to Hyperspace sold in total via this little stunt? Wow, Star Wars is in great shape, ain't it?
Oh yeah, go Jeffie!
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The fan club is hurting, they know it, as do we.
The problem (they must not realize it) is that nobody wants to pay an extra $20 for the online bull****.
We just want the magazine for $20 a year - and even that is a stretch.
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Oh yeah, 139 memberships to Hyperspace sold in total via this little stunt? Wow, Star Wars is in great shape, ain't it?
But, but, but.... Star Wars is FOREVER!!!
:'(
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:'(
Even if you don't win the presidency, Jeff, you're still going to win something: Your very own Rayrob t-shirt!
(http://www.gamepro.com/images/blasts/swi/SW_email_blast_0604_jrs_02.gif)
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Awesome!
All the hard work, blood, sweat, and tears I have poured into this contest will get me something at least...
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:'(
Even if you don't win the presidency, Jeff, you're still going to win something: Your very own Rayrob t-shirt!
I forgot about that...since they aren't going to be available for purchase, looks like they will be making a whopping 4 t-shirts. :P
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You need to wear it to show what a "Fun" guy you are.
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Maybe Rayrob can make a one of a kind version and then try to have his wife sell it to you on eBay
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Word has it Lucasland let Rayrob see a few early designs they were thinking about going with for these t-shirts, but he leaked them all in a chat room one night, and they were none too pleased about it.
Anyway, the current results (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)!
1. uscwannabe 73
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 61
3. mkDCSWCC 9
4. fanostarwars 3[/b]
You're letting this thing slip away, Jeff. It's like, you got your t-shirt, and you don't even care about anything else anymore. I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed in you.
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Oh, don't worry about me...
I've got $4000 burning a hole in my pocket. I was going to use it to start a college fund for the two kids or something, but now it's become clear to me that the only reasonable thing to do is to just renew my Hyperspace membership 100 times.
That will put me at 103 votes and extend my subscription to 101 years of top-notch quality on-line experience at HYPERSPACE: THE OFFICIAL STAR WARS FAN CLUB!
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Star Wars is forever... or so we've been told.
I wonder if Nader or Perot got T-Shirts?
Yours should read "I ran for president and all I got was this T-Shirt and an overly expensive membership to a POS fan club".
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Word has it Lucasland let Rayrob see a few early designs they were thinking about going with for these t-shirts, but he leaked them all in a chat room one night, and they were none too pleased about it.
But RayBob asked for all those anonymous people in that chat room, who could have been anyone, anywhere, with any motive and who'd never have to answer to him ever, to keep those t-shirt designs a secret.
So it's not his fault.
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Wasn't that leak intentional? I always thought it was.
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Could have been, but it wasn't if you believe RayRob's story - he got very mad about it at the time. Could have been an act I guess.
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As creator of the Official Ice Cream Maker Guy Website, I hereby throw my support behind the Smentek/Hood campaign :-*
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Could it be enough to push Jeff's campaign over the top?
I think so.
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It was recently suggested to me that this "List O' Fun" was perhaps in need of an update, so who the hell am I to deny you guys all this fun we're having?
Chinese-Starwars.com Supports Roberts & R2
Posted by Dustin on April 27, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
The support is now global...
G.A.R. Endorses Roberts In '06
Posted by Chris on April 26, 2006 at 01:34 PM CST:
Costuming group helps rally the troops...
Dustin Does Dallas
Posted by Chris on April 26, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
If you're planning to attend the Dallas Comic Con this weekend you'll want to be sure you stop by and visit Star Wars Fan Club candidate, Dustin Roberts! Dustin will be onsite recruiting Hyperspace members and giving away free swag all weekend long! Be sure to add him to you list of booths to stop in at, he'll be set up in booth number 1138.
Sith Vixen Endorses Roberts
Posted by Dustin on April 25, 2006 at 05:27 AM CST:
Sith Vixen has thrown her support for Star Wars Fan Club President behind Dustin Roberts! Check out her website right here for more about the ladies side of costuming.
Vader Painter Endorses Roberts
Posted by Dustin on April 24, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
The ultimate Sith Lord is now backing Roberts & R2 In '06!
Don Bies Endorses Roberts & R2!
Posted by Dustin on April 20, 2006 at 10:25 PM CST:
That's right folks, droid wrangler Don Bies has announced his endorsment of Roberts & R2 In '06! Check it out here!
Dallas Comic Con Endorses Roberts
Posted by Chris on April 20, 2006 at 10:31 AM CST:
The fine folks who put together the Dallas Comic Con have decided to back the man with the plan for Star Wars Fan Club President, Dustin Roberts. You can learn more about how you can help Dustin out, by clicking here! If you live in or near Dallas, TX. You may want to hit up this link to the Dallas Comic Con website. They've got a show scheduled for April 29th-30th that looks to be a lot of fun!
Help Dustin Bring It Home!
Posted by Dustin on April 17, 2006 at 12:01 AM CST:
Only one month to go in the race for Star Wars Fan Club President!
Garrison Carida Throws Support to Roberts & R2!
Posted by Dustin on April 10, 2006 at 10:00 AM CST:
First to advance, last to retreat...
Special Thanks To The Following
Posted by Dustin on April 9, 2006 at 12:39 PM CST:
R2 & I have been super busy hitting up the midwest trying to capture the undecided votes in our campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! All the while we've been adding tons of support online as well. Here are a few new websites who've decided to support our cause! Thanks everyone for your support! Aquacell Productions - KerryEarnhardtFans.com - Star Wars y Mas! ( Hola mi amigos! )
Thank You Master Replicas!
Posted by Dustin on April 7, 2006 at 08:04 PM CST:
Master Replicas shows their support for Roberts & R2...
Special Thanks To Matt Busch
Posted by Dustin on April 7, 2006 at 11:36 AM CST:
The Rock Star of Illustration is backing Roberts for Fan Club President...
Special Thanks Across the Pond
Posted by Dustin on April 6, 2006 at 10:04 AM CST:
With only 39 days left in the competition, the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President is still going strong! Today we've added a nice handful of Star Wars fansites from across the pond to our ever growing list of supporters who believe in the cause! Please take a moment to check out these fellow Star Wars fans' own websites to see just what they're all about! Mintinbox.net - Trash Compactor Chronicles - Zee Zee's Star Wars Books
Special Thanks To Joe Corroney!
Posted by Dustin on April 4, 2006 at 09:54 PM CST:
My good friend Joe Corroney has decided to jump on the Roberts & R2 bandwagon! Thats right Joe Corroney supports Roberts to be the next Star Wars Fan Club President! Joe also mentioned he had been super busy these days drawing Spike Vs. Dracula for IDW Publishing. The first two issues are on sale right now and you can check out the covers and interior art for the series at Joe's website right here, and read more about the new series and his many upcoming SW projects in his Starwars.com blog!
Special Thanks To The Custom Alliance
Posted by Dustin on April 1, 2006 at 01:01 AM CST:
A Big "What up"! Goes out to my customizing buddies over at The Custom Alliance! They've decided to back the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! Click here to find out how you can help too!
Just The Good 'Ol Boys
Posted by Dustin on March 31, 2006 at 11:42 AM CST:
I want to give a shout out to all my Star Wars buddies in KSWCC ( Kentucky Star Wars Collectors Club ) for throwing their support to the Roberts & R2 In '06 Star Wars Fan Club Presidential campaign! I try to attend a few of their local meetings thoughout the year and whenever I do it always is a great day of Star Wars collecting fun! Check 'em out online here!
Got Myspace?
Posted by Dustin on March 30, 2006 at 11:31 AM CST:
Jump on board the Roberts & R2 bandwagon!
Special Thanks To Wattographs!
Posted by Dustin on March 30, 2006 at 11:09 AM CST:
The team over at Wattographs.com has thrown their support behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 Star Wars Fan Club Presidential campaign! Wattographs if you didn't know already is a website that specializes in Star Wars autographs! If you haven't already, check them out and bookmark their site today!
Special Thanks to CommTechGuide.com
Posted by Dustin on March 27, 2006 at 07:08 PM CST:
Remember the CommTech Reader from Episode One? Well there's a website called CommTechGuide.com that specializes in this beautiful hunk of plastic! Like did you know about plans to create another CommTech reader?! Stop by and check out some of the images of what could have been right here! Special thanks to the CommTech Crew for backing the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President!
Special Thanks To Star Wars Limited Edition
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 12:30 PM CST:
Star Wars Limited Edition deals with high end collectible news. They've unanimously decided to throw their support behind Roberts & R2 In '06! Check them out today!
Special Thanks To The Chewseum!
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 10:46 AM CST:
The Chewseum has jumped on board the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon! Similar to my very own R2D2Central.com, the Chewseum is a website dedicated to collectibles surrounding our very favorite Wookiee, Chewbacca!
Special Thanks To Yakface.com
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 09:40 AM CST:
Thanks to my old friends at Yakface.com for puting their support behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! As many folks know, I previously worked at Yakface.com before making the move to Rebelscum.com back in 2000. Thanks for the support guys! If you've never heard of them before (gasp!) be sure to stop by and bookmark the site today!
Special Thanks To The 3+3/4" Archives
Posted by Dustin on March 25, 2006 at 09:52 AM CST:
My man Kevin from the 3+3/4" Archives wrote in supporting my campaign for Fan Club President. If you were a toy from a bad '80s TV show, you'll find your picture here, at the 3+3/4" Archives!
Special Thanks To Deathstarplans2.com
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 09:58 PM CST:
I've gotta say I truly appreciate it when a competitor steps up and jumps on the Roberts & R2 In '06 Bandwagon! Deathstarplans2.com know what it takes to make a stand for what you belive in! Check them out here!
Special Thanks To The Star Wars Fan's Union
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 03:30 PM CST:
The Star Wars Fan's Union has given their support to the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! The Star Wars Fan's Union is a GameSpot Union dedicated to the games of the Star Wars galaxy. Click here to check them out!
Roberts & R2 In '06 Update!
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 06:21 AM CST:
Hey guys & Gals, I'm up by three but looking for a solid lead! If you haven't already, please consider subscribing or renewing your Hyperspace membership! Also, when doing so be sure to use "dustin@rebelscum.com" as the referral email address! Thanks so much I truly appreciate your support! R2 says he does too!
Special Thanks To Reviewstarwars.com
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 03:41 AM CST:
Arnie and Marjorie from the collectibles podcast over at Reviewstarwars.com have notified R&R2 HQ that they are fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Stop on over and give them a listen today!
Special Thanks To Roguedesigner.net
Posted by Dustin on March 23, 2006 at 03:58 PM CST:
Roguedesigner.net have stated their support for the Roberts & R2 In '06 by adding a banner to their website linking back to R&R2 HQ! Be sure to stop by and check our Roguedesigner.net today!
Special Thanks To OSWCC
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 11:10 PM CST:
The Ohio Star Wars Collectors Club ( OSWCC ) is fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! If you live in Ohio and collect Star Wars, this is the place for you! Stop by and sign up today!
Special Thanks To The Emulator Strikes Back
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 10:41 PM CST:
Gotta give kudos to my good friends over at The Emulator Strikes Back. This game emulation website is fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Drop in on them today and say hello!
Special Thanks To Lightsabre
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 08:51 PM CST:
Thanks to the staff at Lightsabre for showing their support of the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Be sure to stop by and check them out! There's a lot of good interviews over there!
Special Thanks To The 501st Special Ops
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 06:00 PM CST:
The Special Ops Detachment of the Mighty 501st are backing Roberts & R2 In '06! Shouldn't you too?! Click here to find out all there is to know about what it takes to be a member of the 501st Special Ops Detachment!
Special Thanks To SWStartours.net
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 03:30 PM CST:
Special thanks to SWStartours.net for their support for the Dustin & R2 In '06 campaign! If you enjoy Star Tours then you're gonna love this website dedicated to everything and anything Star Tours related. Former Rebelscum team mate, Kris with a "K" is the man with the plan behind this little gem on the internet! Stop by today and check it out!
Special Thanks To The Rebel Legion
Posted by Dustin on March 21, 2006 at 09:10 PM CST:
Many thanks to my good friends over at the Rebel Legion! They've jumped onto the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon and are helping us blaze a path to victory! The Rebel Legion is the premier Rebel costuming group in the Star Wars community. Stop by and check them out today!
Dustin For President
Posted by Philip on March 20, 2006 at 09:39 AM CST:
I gotta say, I'm underwhelmed by the subscriptions...
Special Thanks To Astromech.net
Posted by Dustin on March 19, 2006 at 08:19 PM CST:
I'd like to take time out from the campaign trail here and recognize Astromech.net as our very first "Friends of DLR". They've taken the time to help spread the word by placing a banner on their website supporting the Roberts & R2 in '06 campaign for Fan Club President. We like to recognize those who support the mission. Please take time to see what they're all about!
Rebelscum Invades MySpace.com
Posted by Dustin on March 16, 2006 at 06:26 AM CST:
Hey everyone, I'm up and running on Myspace.com and am looking to expand my network of friends! Stop by and send an invite to join my "Inner Circle" of Star Wars buddies! You can check me out on MySpace.com right here!
Dustin For Fan Club President!
Posted by Philip on March 13, 2006 at 09:20 PM CST:
No kidding. As you know they're having a Hyperspace signup contest over at Starwars.com. We've decided to have a bit of fun with it. Read all about it here.
One thing's for sure: This **** never, ever gets old.
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FUN can't get old god dammit.
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Thanks MWB - ;)
Check this out - USC is over 100 now - almost up by 20!
http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html
I ******' love it.
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As creator of the Official Ice Cream Maker Guy Website, I hereby throw my support behind the Smentek/Hood campaign :-*
Thanks for the Support! Smentek/Hood all the way!
Jeff Smentek
"All Around Groovy Dude"
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It's funny, there was a post in the "VOTE FOR DUSTIN!" thread at Rebelscum this morning where a guy said that he just renewed his membership and USCWannabe got his vote. But it was quickly deleted.
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Phillip's been running that thread like he was Karl Rove... all mention of the opposition gets deleted.
At least they're allowing other campaign threads out in Wuher's.
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I really wish I was feeling better.
I'd LOVE to go to the Dallas Con this weekend wearing some sort of anti-Dustin/Rebelscum shirt... just to see what would happen... probably would be kicked out- the audacity! ;)
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Incidentally, I finally got around to throwing your banner up on CloneWarz (http://www.clonewarz.com) today when I updated with some old news. Huzzah and so on.
Just 100 more votes til you're in the lead, but I'm certain this endorsement will send our loyal readers ******* to your campaign. ;)
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Incidentally, I finally got around to throwing your banner up on CloneWarz (http://www.clonewarz.com) today when I updated with some old news. Huzzah and so on.
Shouldn't there be a front page announcement? :P
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As creator of the Official Ice Cream Maker Guy Website, I hereby throw my support behind the Smentek/Hood campaign :-*
Incidentally, I finally got around to throwing your banner up on CloneWarz (http://www.clonewarz.com) today when I updated with some old news. Huzzah and so on.
Yeah, I'll get right on those front page announcements since I know you all love them so much!
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Yeah, I'll get right on those front page announcements since I know you all love them so much!
It's that kind of attitude which is losing this election for you, Ralph Nader.
>:(
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It's that kind of attitude which is losing this election for you, Ralph Nader.
Oh... we'll just see about that... >:(
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i can't vote. i dont have the money. i support you though. i'm not feeding the money-hungry Phil. that's for sure.
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Uh-oh, I just heard some bad news. :-\
Rumor has it that Dustin is about to announce that his candidacy is now being endorsed by: the letter E, the number 7, hydrogen, and the force of gravity.
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Rumor has it that Dustin is about to announce that his candidacy is now being endorsed by: the letter E, the number 7, hydrogen, and the force of gravity.
I'm sorry, but I own all rights to the letter E...and it does not endorse that campaign. Maybe if he gives me one of those free posters it will. ;D
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It is with a heavy heart that I must abandon my campaign for the Honorary Title of President of Hyperspace: The Official Star Wars Fan Club. :'(
I would not give up this fight if there was a chance that we would prevail. But it is now clear that even when all the provisional ballots are counted, there won't be enough outstanding votes for us to be able to win. And therefore, we can not win this election.
My friends, it was here that we began our campaign for the presidency. All we had was hope and a vision for a better Fan Club. It was a privilege and a gift to spend four weeks traveling this Forum, coming to know so many of you. I wish that I could just wrap you in my arms and embrace each and every one of you individually all across this nation. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I will always be particularly grateful to the colleague who became my partner, my very close friend, an extraordinary leader, Willrow Hood (aka the Ice Cream Maker Guy). I thank him for everything he did. Willrow and I would be the first to tell you that we owe so much to our families. They're here with us today. They were with us every single step of the way. They sustained us. They went out on their own and they multiplied our campaign, all across this country.
I want to thank my fellow staff members and my friends. That great ‘band of brothers’ who criss-crossed this country on my behalf throughout April. Thank you. They had the courage to speak the truth, and they spoke it again and again, and for that, I will forever be grateful.
Thanks to Democrats and Republicans and independents who stood with us, and everyone who voted no matter who their candidate was. What you did made a difference, and building on itself, we go on to make a difference another day. I promise you, that time will come. The time will come, the election will come when your work and your ballots will change the world, and it's worth fighting for.
I want to especially say to the Star Wars Fans in this journey, you have given me honor and the gift of listening and learning from you. I have visited your homes. I have visited your churches. I've visited your union halls. I've heard your stories, I know your struggles, I know your hopes. They're part of me now, and I will never forget you, and I'll never stop fighting for you.
You may not understand completely in what ways, but it is true when I say to you that you have taught me and you've tested me and you've lifted me up, and you made me stronger. I did my best to express my vision and my hopes for the Fan Club. We worked hard and we fought hard and I wish that things had turned out a little differently.
I'm proud of what we stood for in this campaign, and of what we accomplished. When we began, no one thought it was possible to even make this a close race. But we stood for real change, change that would make a real difference in the life of our nation, the lives of our families.
So here -- so with a grateful heart -- I leave this campaign with a prayer that has even greater meaning to me now that I've come to know our vast country so much better. Thanks to all of you and what a privilege it has been. And that prayer is very simple: God bless America. Thank you.
If you've been procrastinating and you still want to cast a vote, I would ask that you vote for the current leader in this race - Tommy "USCWANNABE" Costabile - by entering tom.costabile@gmail.com as your referral.
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I for one will continue to display my Jeff for Prez bumper sticker for many years even after we have the official results. ;)
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I for one will continue to display my Jeff for Prez bumper sticker for many years even after we have the official results. ;)
As you should.
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So what went wrong?
I think it all started when Dustin's campaign manager started spreading rumors that you had fathered an African-American child.
Or maybe it was when you were caught having sex with Donna Rice on a boat down in Miami.
But, at any rate, Godspeed, Jeff. You fought the good fight and that's something the bastards will never be able to take away from you.
Enjoy your Rayrob shirt.
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That was quite the emotional concession speech Jeff. Kudos to you for putting up a good fight and then taking the high road as you left.
I think you could have won though, if and only if, you had referred to yourself in the 3rd party. ;D
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Jeff, it was fun while it lasted. You ran a respectable campaign and didn't try and ram it down people's throats. It was all in good fun too in your speech. It was heartfelt yet you made it enjoyable too with some light hearted comedy. And God bless America like you said. ;)
:)
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Damn. I simply won't be sleeping tonight. Damn. >:(
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***Flails his arms wildly while crying hysterically***
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Bummer.
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So what went wrong?
I think it all started when Dustin's campaign manager started spreading rumors that you had fathered an African-American child.
The real problem is that Jeff has fathered children all over the country and a couple more in Mexico. For shame.
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So what went wrong?
I think it all started when Dustin's campaign manager started spreading rumors that you had fathered an African-American child.
The real problem is that Jeff has fathered children all over the country and a couple more in Mexico. For shame.
Daddy?
Kevin
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The real problem is that Jeff has fathered children all over the country and a couple more in Mexico. For shame.
Well, that's common knowledge. But none of them were black, were they?
You can have all the kids you want, with as many women as you want, and you're viewed as a super-potent stud (i.e. Mick Jagger).
But--good heavens!--if word gets out that even one of them is black, that's when all hell breaks loose (i.e. Thomas Jefferson, Strom Thurmond, John McCain, Bill Cosby, etc., etc.).
And that was the final nail in the coffin of Jeff's campaign, I'm afraid.
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Hey now ... I finally go to all the work of putting up a banner, and the next day you crap out? Bastard. >:(
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. (http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/figuren/b045.gif)
P.S.: the Dustin news barrage is annoying even people over on TrekBBS (http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5976674&an=0&page=1). ;D (And yes, that Ferengi guy is me. Over there you can't change your screen name.)
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Hey now ... I finally go to all the work of putting up a banner, and the next day you crap out? Bastard. >:(
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. (http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/figuren/b045.gif)
P.S.: the Dustin news barrage is annoying even people over on TrekBBS (http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5976674&an=0&page=1). ;D (And yes, that Ferengi guy is me. Over there you can't change your screen name.)
Who? Valin Ferengirific?
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At least Jeff's getting some... You'd think that would've been a plus in his corner.
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Question:
Even though Jeff's cut and run from this campaign like the quitter he is, can the rest of us still use this thread to keep track of how much fun we're having with Dustin's campaign? 'Cause we're all having a ****load of fun. For example:
Latest results: (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)
1. uscwannabe 109
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 88
See, the fun we're gonna be having over the next few days is gonna come from watching as the new Dustin votes roll in from all of the unashamed vote-buying he's doing in Dallas this weekend, where he's giving away a "free" $40 print in exchange for signing up for the $40 Fan Club membership.
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It's great to see that vote buying is a key component to any worthy campaign. ::)
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Fun *******, Fun! >:(
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P.S.: the Dustin news barrage is annoying even people over on TrekBBS (http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5976674&an=0&page=1). ;D (And yes, that Ferengi guy is me. Over there you can't change your screen name.)
Who? Valin Ferengirific?
Oooh, I'm gonna use that one. 8)
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The real problem is that Jeff has fathered children all over the country and a couple more in Mexico. For shame.
Well, that's common knowledge. But none of them were black, were they?
You can have all the kids you want, with as many women as you want, and you're viewed as a super-potent stud (i.e. Mick Jagger).
But--good heavens!--if word gets out that even one of them is black, that's when all hell breaks loose (i.e. Thomas Jefferson, Strom Thurmond, John McCain, Bill Cosby, etc., etc.).
And that was the final nail in the coffin of Jeff's campaign, I'm afraid.
True, but in Strom Thurmond's case, it was pretty ****** up...seeing as he was so adamantly pro-segregation in the past.
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At least Jeff's getting some... You'd think that would've been a plus in his corner.
One would think that would put him in a fairly small minority of Star Wars fans, say 1% or less. ;) Perhaps the fact he was getting laid led to jealousy that spiraled into hatred and a loss of votes?
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SW fans are a caddy lot.
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Good lord... they found a way to turn news about the Early Bird set into a plug for this "fun" campaign!
Early Bird Offer Extended/Sign Up For a Year of HS! (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Extends_Early_Bird_Offer_Again_98322.asp)
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Latest results:
126 - uscwannabe
117 - dustin@rebelscum.com
I assume these results include the weekend's take. Is it possible Dustin only got 29 people to sign up in Dallas?
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SW fans are a caddy lot.
(http://pbpl.physics.ucla.edu/About_Us/Bios/Carl_Spackler/danny1.jpg)
???
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Latest results:
126 - uscwannabe
117 - dustin@rebelscum.com
I assume these results include the weekend's take. Is it possible Dustin only got 29 people to sign up in Dallas?
Only?
I think twenty nine is pretty good for one weekend. Hell, that's almost a third of what he went down there with!
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Given the fact that they were giving away items of equal value to the subscription just for people to sign up, I was expecting more than 30 people to avail themselves of the offer. I mean, 30 people is like 1 or 2 an hour. I was expecting him to double his count. I thought it was an effective idea to get a lot more bounties.
Considering the cost of flying him down there, a booth at the convention, and the wholesale value of the hand-outs, I wonder if it would have been cheaper for them to just buy 30 subscriptions and give them away.
I don't know... maybe some of the people who signed up are still being processed. The tally doesn't update dynamically, after all.
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^tt
Though... That's a catty looking caddy.
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I think the predictions will come true - PW and crew will buy the subscriptions that Dustin needs to win. He's only nine referrals away from matching USC.
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Well, as far as we know, USC could be buying the subscriptions to match Dustin. Who knows... he could be a millionaire who wants to be in the Insider.
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Holy crap!
1. uscwannabe 156
2. dustin @rebelscum.com 119
3. mkDCSWCC 9
4. fanostarwars 3
So Dustin goes to Dallas, gives away free loot, and bags about 30 'scrips. Meanwhile, uscwannabe magically rounds up 30 of his own while giving away nothing at a convention? It must have been my withdrawl from the race and subsequent endorsement of him that gave him a boost... ;)
Is anyone else amazed that these two guys have racked up 275 subscriptions between them? That's about $10,986.25 in revenue for Lucas.
Think that will cover the trip to SDCC they are giving away to the winner? :P
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Fan Club still blows.
Jeff's endorsement is strong though, obviously. Look at that surge...
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Holy crap!
1. uscwannabe 156
2. dustin @rebelscum.com 119
3. mkDCSWCC 9
4. fanostarwars 3
So Dustin goes to Dallas, gives away free loot, and bags about 30 'scrips. Meanwhile, uscwannabe magically rounds up 30 of his own while giving away nothing at a convention? It must have been my withdrawl from the race and subsequent endorsement of him that gave him a boost... ;)
Is anyone else amazed that these two guys have racked up 275 subscriptions between them? That's about $10,986.25 in revenue for Lucas.
Think that will cover the trip to SDCC they are giving away to the winner? :P
What winner? I still say they only have 131 subscriptions plus all the people with one each. USCWannabe is a fake account used by LFL to generate interest and more subscriptions from people who are just in this for "fun" like Philip and Dustin.
Notice how whenever Dustin gets more votes USC somehow matches them, but he never goes over too high, or Dustin would just give up. If LFL keeps it close Dustin will keep buying real subscriptions, thus generating more money.
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Do you have anything to support that claim? ::)
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Do you have anything to support that claim? ::)
Nope. It's just a lame conspiracy theory, but it is something I wouldn't put past them. ::)
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From RS:
So, how long does it take for Hyperspace to add a referral to a candidate's total? I just renewed my subscription 3 more times. I hope it works and helps put Dustin just that much closer to beating this phantom SW fan.
Good Luck Dustin!!!
I'm... speechless. It's one thing to help out a guy by plugging his name in when you're renewing your membership, or even to buy a membership you hadn't intended to get, but this... ? By what Sidiously Darth has said, he has apparently renewed his HS subscription at least 4 times at $40 a pop. I don't know that I'd spend $160 to get my best friend or even my sister a free trip to San Diego, let alone some guy I at best hardly know. :o
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Someone needs some knee pads or he'll wear out his pants.
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Latest results (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html):
1. uscwannabe 162
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 127
35 down, 11 days to go. . .
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In all fairness and the concept of "equal time," Star Wars EnDirect has now posted a podcast interview with USCWannabe - aka Tommy Costabile. Have a listen:
http://swendirect.com/index.htm
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I hope he wins.
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I hope he wins.
Fun-hater. >:(
Latest results! (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)
1. uscwannabe 162
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 135
27 down, 9 days to go. . .
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No idea what fun-hater is suppose to mean?
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No idea what fun-hater is suppose to mean?
Okay, you're supporting USCWannabe, yes? (That's the most-appropriate screenname I've ever heard, by the way.)
He's running against Dustin, and Dustin's Campaign O' Fun.
Therefore, USCWannabe is anti-fun, and that would make you, Sir, a fun-hater.
Pretty simple.
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Latest results! (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)
1. uscwannabe 185
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 137
43 down, 9 days to go. . .
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Latest results! (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)
1. uscwannabe 185
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 137
43 down, 9 days to go. . .
You majored in math, didn't you, you sly dog? ;)
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Would you believe it was a typo?
:-\
(Hey, I'll be the first to admit that I'm no math wiz, but I was recently certified as an English genius (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=1298.msg220448#msg220448), if that means anything. . .)
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Wouldn't an English genius know that you aren't supposed to capitalize the first word inside a set of parentheses? ;)
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That's not true, but even if it was, English geniuses like myself are usually afforded a certain amount of creative liberties with the language so that we can exploit the inconsistencies of it in order to express ourselves as we see fit.
In other words, you really have to know and understand the language in order to be able to **** it up (in an ironic way, mind you) to serve your own artistic freedom and needs.
I wouldn't expect you to understand that, though.
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The fun hatred continues... It's fun god dammit, fun. Enjoy these days of shameless fun for the Fan Club.
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Wow I was just at the Apollo Theatre in Harlem tonight and their was this comic doing a really drawn out bit about Dustin. I couldn't believe it. Nobody knew what the **** he was talking about, I swear I was the only one laughing. I didn't get his name he wasn't on long. This is his routine to the best of my recollection:
I'm glad to see dustin is getting ******* smoked in this absolutely pointless contest. I'm kidding of course, I love dustin, he's so street and fresh, I just found his whole campaign way too obnoxious and in my ******* face for something I could not give a **** about. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean any disrespect to him, I can appreciate he's trying really hard to win free crap and good for him, but I wish he and rs would just **** off already.
And hey, this is something that I thought was inappropriate, I really didn't appreciate him sullying the good name of R2-D2 by making him his running mate, poor R2 is just trying to enjoy his retirement with his long time companion and he get's dragged into this?
Now, whoever the **** that ******* USCWannabe is, congratulations, good for you buddy enjoy your free ****, now please go **** yourself in the hyperspace forums and leave us free board slobs alone.
Sorry for the all the negativity but I really don't like having things constanly shoved down my throat. I would have killed for Norton to have developed a Dustin blocker, I would have bought it. At least he didn't resort to pop up adds, that could have made it even more irritating, an area he had no problem with all on his own.
Oh I see the hook coming for me, that's my time, you've been a great audience Apollo!! Peace. ;)
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We all need a Dustin blocker in our lives. Even better a Wise Blocker would be best.
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certified as an English genius (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=1298.msg220448#msg220448), if that means anything. . .)
Nothing
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You're just jealous because you didn't score as highly as I did.
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Is anyone getting sick of Roberts giving us the finger at almost every star wars fan site in creation?
(http://www.rebelscum.com/images/dlrpres-title2.gif)
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Is anyone getting sick of Roberts giving us the finger at almost every star wars fan site in creation?
(http://www.rebelscum.com/images/dlrpres-title2.gif)
I thought he was trying to show us the booger he just picked. ;D
Fun.. it's what's for dinner!
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Is anyone getting sick of Roberts giving us the finger at almost every star wars fan site in creation?
What's awesome is that if Philip doesn't buy a bunch of votes at the last minute, allowing Dustin to win Dustin doesn't win, we can look forward all the fun we're gonna have next year, when a new "president" needs to be elected.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Is anyone getting sick of Roberts giving us the finger at almost every star wars fan site in creation?
What's awesome is that if Philip doesn't buy a bunch of votes at the last minute, allowing Dustin to win Dustin doesn't win, we can look forward all the fun we're gonna have next year, when a new "president" needs to be elected.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Or even if he does win there will always be the re-election campaign for twice the fun!
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Since you all seemed to wnjoy my last post as RS - I thought I'd share my most recent. I figure I'll be banned in about 2 hours :P
My post from the Dustin for Pres thread:
Dustin and Philip:
When you made the first post on the main page of 'scum, I came on here and raised the concern about the dual messages you were sending by it. I warned that the "commercial" nature of your appeals wasn't going to win any friends, influence people, or get our boy Dustin here elected. Many of your "supporters" here blasted me as being a bitter, jealous person, spiteful of Rebelscum, instead of hearing the considered points I was making. So far, it is looking like I was right.
A "nobody", in terms of the collecting community, is turning in more subsciptions than Dustin. A lot of that appears to be driven by the disdain for how Dustin has been presented. Good politicians know when the tide is against them and adjust to it. Instead you are continuing more of the same and the gap is widening.
There's still a chance for you to step up to the plate, but you are running out of time. From the free product given away by Philip's venture, it is obvious he is supporting you in your efforts. I think it's time you ask Philip to do something noble.
Philip, you've made some small coin off of Star Wars collectors through your endeavors over the past few years. As you have stated time and time again, you run it like a business so you can keep it going. I'd advocate that you start doing what socially responsible businesses do -- give back.
Why not offer to publically donate $10.00 to a charity for every subscription Dustin brings in between now and the end of the contest? (If he manages to bring in another 100 subscriptions -- which would seem to be a stretch -- that's only $1,000 -- a small part of your star wars collection budget for the year.) Have all his supporter sites get the word out. That would be a noble effort rather than the sad joke this is becoming.
The Fan Club SHOULD have done something meaningful with this contest -- something other than crass commercialism. Sadly they didn't. Here's your chance to show what REAL leadership within the collecting community should be.
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Yeah, you're getting the ban. Welcome to the club ;D
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Here's your chance to show what REAL leadership within the collecting community should be.
The only things that are led by RebelScum are idiots.
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The only things that are led by RebelScum are idiots.
Awesome, Thanks! 8)
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Word has it Lucasland let Rayrob see a few early designs they were thinking about going with for these t-shirts, but he leaked them all in a chat room one night, and they were none too pleased about it.
But RayBob asked for all those anonymous people in that chat room, who could have been anyone, anywhere, with any motive and who'd never have to answer to him ever, to keep those t-shirt designs a secret.
So it's not his fault.
Yea...I was in that chatroom at the time. We were all so hyped up for ROTS, but we all swore we wouldn't post the pics anywhere...sure enough some jackass posted them in a thread on RS just a few hours later. I think his name started with a D, but I'm not sure. I've forgotten pretty much everyone from RS.
You have no idea how pissed I was when they were reposted. I tried to report them, but it took a while before they were taken down and with RS' traffic at the time, they spread fairly quickly. I had been checking a French news website for Star Wars info and saw them there a few days later. The guy was just an idiot...Ray n Quiet Rob ( who's true name we were told not to mention afterwards) made only one mistake, and that was trusting everyone in that chatroom without spending enough time to know if they could be trusted or not.
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Word has it Lucasland let Rayrob see a few early designs they were thinking about going with for these t-shirts, but he leaked them all in a chat room one night, and they were none too pleased about it.
But RayBob asked for all those anonymous people in that chat room, who could have been anyone, anywhere, with any motive and who'd never have to answer to him ever, to keep those t-shirt designs a secret.
So it's not his fault.
Yea...I was in that chatroom at the time. We were all so hyped up for ROTS, but we all swore we wouldn't post the pics anywhere...sure enough some jackass posted them in a thread on RS just a few hours later. I think his name started with a D, but I'm not sure. I've forgotten pretty much everyone from RS.
You have no idea how pissed I was when they were reposted. I tried to report them, but it took a while before they were taken down and with RS' traffic at the time, they spread fairly quickly. I had been checking a French news website for Star Wars info and saw them there a few days later. The guy was just an idiot...Ray n Quiet Rob ( who's true name we were told not to mention afterwards) made only one mistake, and that was trusting everyone in that chatroom without spending enough time to know if they could be trusted or not.
History lesson.
That wasn't how they were released at all... I had a source in that chat room if truth be told and they saved the images and sent them in and I ran the story as a JediDefender exclusive. I have the legal documents to prove it. Just do a search for "JediDefender" on google... many results will be from "Episode 3 leaks" and the like.
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Latest results! (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)
1. uscwannabe 201
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 145
(Let's see. . . I'm gonna try to do this one in my head, without using a pencil and scratch paper. . .)
56 down, five days to go. . .
(Is it over? Can we go ahead and make the projection that USCWannabe will be the next president of the Star Wars Fan Club?)
(http://wiseacres.com/fishphilippic.jpg)
Not if this man has anything to say about it.
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Let's see...
57 x $39.95 = $2,277.15 minimum to buy the lead
Think they want it bad enough to drop $2500 on it?
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Think they want it bad enough to drop $2500 on it?
I don't know; you tell me:
Ozzy & Snoop Jump On The Roberts Bandwagon!
Posted by Dustin on May 10, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
Two heavy weight entertainers from the music industry step out into spotlight to endorse Roberts for Fan Club President! Click here to find out how you can cast your vote today!
More Community Support For Roberts & R2 In '06!
Posted by Chris on May 9, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
Members of the Star Wars community stand up and rally behind Roberts...
Auto Renewing Members And The Fan Club Presidency Race
Posted by Dustin on May 8, 2006 at 11:59 AM CST:
If you are a Hyperspace member who is set up for their account to auto renew each year please read how you can participate in the Star Wars Fan Club Presidential Contest...
Help Dustin Bring It Home!
Posted by Dustin on May 8, 2006 at 12:01 AM CST:
Only one week to go in the race for Star Wars Fan Club President!
The Imperial Academy Endorses Roberts
Posted by Dustin on May 3, 2006 at 03:00 PM CST:
A big thanks to all my friends over at the Imperial Academy for flying the colors of the Roberts & R2 campaign in 2006! If you're into armor, check these guys out today!
Jeremy Bulloch Urges Fans To Vote Roberts!
Posted by Chris on May 3, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
The man, the myth, endorses Roberts & R2 in '06!
Artists Allied Endorse Roberts For Star Wars Fan Club President
Posted by Chris on May 1, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
The Star Wars art community has spoken...
You Can Make The Jump To Hyperspace In Dallas!
Posted by Chris on April 29, 2006 at 07:40 AM CST:
Just a reminder that starting today if you attend Dallas Comic Con 7 this weekend and sign up for Hyperspace, you'll receive a special bonus...
Thunder From Down Under
Posted by Dustin on April 28, 2006 at 05:19 AM CST:
Mousedroid.com have jumped on the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon! I wanted to say thanks for their support and if you live in Australia, these guys do a top notch job covering Star Wars for you! Thanks Mousedroid.com!
Chinese-Starwars.com Supports Roberts & R2
Posted by Dustin on April 27, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
The support is now global...
G.A.R. Endorses Roberts In '06
Posted by Chris on April 26, 2006 at 01:34 PM CST:
Costuming group helps rally the troops...
Dustin Does Dallas
Posted by Chris on April 26, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
If you're planning to attend the Dallas Comic Con this weekend you'll want to be sure you stop by and visit Star Wars Fan Club candidate, Dustin Roberts! Dustin will be onsite recruiting Hyperspace members and giving away free swag all weekend long! Be sure to add him to you list of booths to stop in at, he'll be set up in booth number 1138.
Sith Vixen Endorses Roberts
Posted by Dustin on April 25, 2006 at 05:27 AM CST:
Sith Vixen has thrown her support for Star Wars Fan Club President behind Dustin Roberts! Check out her website right here for more about the ladies side of costuming.
Vader Painter Endorses Roberts
Posted by Dustin on April 24, 2006 at 12:00 AM CST:
The ultimate Sith Lord is now backing Roberts & R2 In '06!
Don Bies Endorses Roberts & R2!
Posted by Dustin on April 20, 2006 at 10:25 PM CST:
That's right folks, droid wrangler Don Bies has announced his endorsment of Roberts & R2 In '06! Check it out here!
Dallas Comic Con Endorses Roberts
Posted by Chris on April 20, 2006 at 10:31 AM CST:
The fine folks who put together the Dallas Comic Con have decided to back the man with the plan for Star Wars Fan Club President, Dustin Roberts. You can learn more about how you can help Dustin out, by clicking here! If you live in or near Dallas, TX. You may want to hit up this link to the Dallas Comic Con website. They've got a show scheduled for April 29th-30th that looks to be a lot of fun!
Help Dustin Bring It Home!
Posted by Dustin on April 17, 2006 at 12:01 AM CST:
Only one month to go in the race for Star Wars Fan Club President!
Garrison Carida Throws Support to Roberts & R2!
Posted by Dustin on April 10, 2006 at 10:00 AM CST:
First to advance, last to retreat...
Special Thanks To The Following
Posted by Dustin on April 9, 2006 at 12:39 PM CST:
R2 & I have been super busy hitting up the midwest trying to capture the undecided votes in our campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! All the while we've been adding tons of support online as well. Here are a few new websites who've decided to support our cause! Thanks everyone for your support! Aquacell Productions - KerryEarnhardtFans.com - Star Wars y Mas! ( Hola mi amigos! )
Thank You Master Replicas!
Posted by Dustin on April 7, 2006 at 08:04 PM CST:
Master Replicas shows their support for Roberts & R2...
Special Thanks To Matt Busch
Posted by Dustin on April 7, 2006 at 11:36 AM CST:
The Rock Star of Illustration is backing Roberts for Fan Club President...
Special Thanks Across the Pond
Posted by Dustin on April 6, 2006 at 10:04 AM CST:
With only 39 days left in the competition, the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President is still going strong! Today we've added a nice handful of Star Wars fansites from across the pond to our ever growing list of supporters who believe in the cause! Please take a moment to check out these fellow Star Wars fans' own websites to see just what they're all about! Mintinbox.net - Trash Compactor Chronicles - Zee Zee's Star Wars Books
Special Thanks To Joe Corroney!
Posted by Dustin on April 4, 2006 at 09:54 PM CST:
My good friend Joe Corroney has decided to jump on the Roberts & R2 bandwagon! Thats right Joe Corroney supports Roberts to be the next Star Wars Fan Club President! Joe also mentioned he had been super busy these days drawing Spike Vs. Dracula for IDW Publishing. The first two issues are on sale right now and you can check out the covers and interior art for the series at Joe's website right here, and read more about the new series and his many upcoming SW projects in his Starwars.com blog!
Special Thanks To The Custom Alliance
Posted by Dustin on April 1, 2006 at 01:01 AM CST:
A Big "What up"! Goes out to my customizing buddies over at The Custom Alliance! They've decided to back the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! Click here to find out how you can help too!
Just The Good 'Ol Boys
Posted by Dustin on March 31, 2006 at 11:42 AM CST:
I want to give a shout out to all my Star Wars buddies in KSWCC ( Kentucky Star Wars Collectors Club ) for throwing their support to the Roberts & R2 In '06 Star Wars Fan Club Presidential campaign! I try to attend a few of their local meetings thoughout the year and whenever I do it always is a great day of Star Wars collecting fun! Check 'em out online here!
Got Myspace?
Posted by Dustin on March 30, 2006 at 11:31 AM CST:
Jump on board the Roberts & R2 bandwagon!
Special Thanks To Wattographs!
Posted by Dustin on March 30, 2006 at 11:09 AM CST:
The team over at Wattographs.com has thrown their support behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 Star Wars Fan Club Presidential campaign! Wattographs if you didn't know already is a website that specializes in Star Wars autographs! If you haven't already, check them out and bookmark their site today!
Special Thanks to CommTechGuide.com
Posted by Dustin on March 27, 2006 at 07:08 PM CST:
Remember the CommTech Reader from Episode One? Well there's a website called CommTechGuide.com that specializes in this beautiful hunk of plastic! Like did you know about plans to create another CommTech reader?! Stop by and check out some of the images of what could have been right here! Special thanks to the CommTech Crew for backing the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President!
Special Thanks To Star Wars Limited Edition
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 12:30 PM CST:
Star Wars Limited Edition deals with high end collectible news. They've unanimously decided to throw their support behind Roberts & R2 In '06! Check them out today!
Special Thanks To The Chewseum!
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 10:46 AM CST:
The Chewseum has jumped on board the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon! Similar to my very own R2D2Central.com, the Chewseum is a website dedicated to collectibles surrounding our very favorite Wookiee, Chewbacca!
Special Thanks To Yakface.com
Posted by Dustin on March 26, 2006 at 09:40 AM CST:
Thanks to my old friends at Yakface.com for puting their support behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign for Star Wars Fan Club President! As many folks know, I previously worked at Yakface.com before making the move to Rebelscum.com back in 2000. Thanks for the support guys! If you've never heard of them before (gasp!) be sure to stop by and bookmark the site today!
Special Thanks To The 3+3/4" Archives
Posted by Dustin on March 25, 2006 at 09:52 AM CST:
My man Kevin from the 3+3/4" Archives wrote in supporting my campaign for Fan Club President. If you were a toy from a bad '80s TV show, you'll find your picture here, at the 3+3/4" Archives!
Special Thanks To Deathstarplans2.com
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 09:58 PM CST:
I've gotta say I truly appreciate it when a competitor steps up and jumps on the Roberts & R2 In '06 Bandwagon! Deathstarplans2.com know what it takes to make a stand for what you belive in! Check them out here!
Special Thanks To The Star Wars Fan's Union
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 03:30 PM CST:
The Star Wars Fan's Union has given their support to the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! The Star Wars Fan's Union is a GameSpot Union dedicated to the games of the Star Wars galaxy. Click here to check them out!
Roberts & R2 In '06 Update!
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 06:21 AM CST:
Hey guys & Gals, I'm up by three but looking for a solid lead! If you haven't already, please consider subscribing or renewing your Hyperspace membership! Also, when doing so be sure to use "dustin@rebelscum.com" as the referral email address! Thanks so much I truly appreciate your support! R2 says he does too!
Special Thanks To Reviewstarwars.com
Posted by Dustin on March 24, 2006 at 03:41 AM CST:
Arnie and Marjorie from the collectibles podcast over at Reviewstarwars.com have notified R&R2 HQ that they are fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Stop on over and give them a listen today!
Special Thanks To Roguedesigner.net
Posted by Dustin on March 23, 2006 at 03:58 PM CST:
Roguedesigner.net have stated their support for the Roberts & R2 In '06 by adding a banner to their website linking back to R&R2 HQ! Be sure to stop by and check our Roguedesigner.net today!
Special Thanks To OSWCC
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 11:10 PM CST:
The Ohio Star Wars Collectors Club ( OSWCC ) is fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! If you live in Ohio and collect Star Wars, this is the place for you! Stop by and sign up today!
Special Thanks To The Emulator Strikes Back
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 10:41 PM CST:
Gotta give kudos to my good friends over at The Emulator Strikes Back. This game emulation website is fully behind the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Drop in on them today and say hello!
Special Thanks To Lightsabre
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 08:51 PM CST:
Thanks to the staff at Lightsabre for showing their support of the Roberts & R2 In '06 campaign! Be sure to stop by and check them out! There's a lot of good interviews over there!
Special Thanks To The 501st Special Ops
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 06:00 PM CST:
The Special Ops Detachment of the Mighty 501st are backing Roberts & R2 In '06! Shouldn't you too?! Click here to find out all there is to know about what it takes to be a member of the 501st Special Ops Detachment!
Special Thanks To SWStartours.net
Posted by Dustin on March 22, 2006 at 03:30 PM CST:
Special thanks to SWStartours.net for their support for the Dustin & R2 In '06 campaign! If you enjoy Star Tours then you're gonna love this website dedicated to everything and anything Star Tours related. Former Rebelscum team mate, Kris with a "K" is the man with the plan behind this little gem on the internet! Stop by today and check it out!
Special Thanks To The Rebel Legion
Posted by Dustin on March 21, 2006 at 09:10 PM CST:
Many thanks to my good friends over at the Rebel Legion! They've jumped onto the Roberts & R2 In '06 bandwagon and are helping us blaze a path to victory! The Rebel Legion is the premier Rebel costuming group in the Star Wars community. Stop by and check them out today!
Dustin For President
Posted by Philip on March 20, 2006 at 09:39 AM CST:
I gotta say, I'm underwhelmed by the subscriptions...
Special Thanks To Astromech.net
Posted by Dustin on March 19, 2006 at 08:19 PM CST:
I'd like to take time out from the campaign trail here and recognize Astromech.net as our very first "Friends of DLR". They've taken the time to help spread the word by placing a banner on their website supporting the Roberts & R2 in '06 campaign for Fan Club President. We like to recognize those who support the mission. Please take time to see what they're all about!
Rebelscum Invades MySpace.com
Posted by Dustin on March 16, 2006 at 06:26 AM CST:
Hey everyone, I'm up and running on Myspace.com and am looking to expand my network of friends! Stop by and send an invite to join my "Inner Circle" of Star Wars buddies! You can check me out on MySpace.com right here!
Dustin For Fan Club President!
Posted by Philip on March 13, 2006 at 09:20 PM CST:
No kidding. As you know they're having a Hyperspace signup contest over at Starwars.com. We've decided to have a bit of fun with it. Read all about it here.
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Dont forget...
(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/aarp.jpg)
;D
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I posted an interview with Dustin in this week's http://CreatureCantina.com update.
http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2006/0510/dlr-interview.html
But down by almost 60 with 5 days left, I don't know if even the power of CreatureCantina.com can turn this one around...
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History lesson.
That wasn't how they were released at all... I had a source in that chat room if truth be told and they saved the images and sent them in and I ran the story as a JediDefender exclusive. I have the legal documents to prove it. Just do a search for "JediDefender" on google... many results will be from "Episode 3 leaks" and the like.
When I googled Jedidefender, all I found was this awesome petition (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/****rsandJD)
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But down by almost 60 with 5 days left, I don't know if even the power of CreatureCantina.com can turn this one around...
Are you saying CreatureCantina (which sucks) is now endorsing Dustin?
BC: You've been, at times, heavy-handed as an administrator in the RebelScum forums. At times you've declared, almost gleefully, that it's Dustin's way or the highway. Do you think being a prick in those instances is coming back to bite you in the ass now?
That was pretty much the best question asked, ever.
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No endorsement, no. We're still backing our big guy Big E... who hasn't received a single bounty. ;) But like a politician going on Letterman, the interview alone can lead to a lot of votes.
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E and Jeff should've run together then battled to the death over the prizes.
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"You two! Fight to the death!"
(http://www.webchat.org/operpage/stewie.gif)
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So that interview was a real interview at CC? If i was I thought it was a spoof.
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Yes, those were Dustin's real answers. And my real questions.
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It really disappoints me that such a reputtable site like CreatureCantina.com would stoop this low as to even acknowledge his presence in the Fan Club debacle. Truly disappointing......I sure hope this doesn't lead to a rush of new subscriptions leading to his victory.
CreatureCantina.com SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great questions, lame reponses.
Where can I sign up to join the West Yucatan Attacktix Gaming Squad.
Good stuff Bill. 8)
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At least someone told him he's an ass without getting banned for it... He doesn't seem to take well to it when it's meant with a serious tone after he just belittled someone's POV or criticism.
Not that I know Dustin of course... But the way he administrates the forums at RS is comical at best. Not so much even in the responses but the inaction in general, or the overreaction at times. I'm not even talking about mass bannings without the slightest hint of what the facts are and things. There are so many problems it's impossible to even know where to start the criticism... Hey, whatever it takes to make you feel special in the hobby though, far be it from me to deny that...
And like he said, remember to have fun! :) Because anyone who goes there has been reminded daily of how FUN this **** is... How FUN that fan club presidency is... FUN *******, FUN! ;)
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I think Dustin should accept NAMBLA's endorsement of his candidacy. If anyone can help him engineer a come-from-behind victory, they can.
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In all fairness and the concept of "equal time," Star Wars EnDirect has now posted a podcast interview with USCWannabe - aka Tommy Costabile. Have a listen:
http://swendirect.com/index.htm
Good grief ... I hate getting into "I'm more l33t fanboy than U" types of pissing contests, but how is someone who thinks TPM came out in 1996 qualified to be Fan Club President? And he got his hundreds of referrals from friends, family, and industry contacts? That seems somehow ... non-kosher. :-\
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Maybe they'll both die suddenly, and leave our man Jeff to take the throne.
It could happen.
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I thought Jeff was even behind that DC guy... Man Jeff you didn't try very hard. You fun hating bastard.
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I did my best... :'(
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Latest results! (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)
1. uscwannabe 223
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 152
71 down, three days to go. . .
(http://www.mikelief.com/archives/FatLadySings-thumb.jpg)
She's warming up. . .
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Before we start gloating too much, we should realize that we have no idea who uscwannabe is. What if turns out to be GNT? Or Greenday? Or Dale?
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Or Dale?
Definatley not Dale. I'd know that Canadian accent anywhere!
Kevin
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Before we start gloating too much, we should realize that we have no idea who uscwannabe is. What if turns out to be GNT? Or Greenday? Or Dale?
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Or Philip Wise. :o
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That would rule! :o
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Before we start gloating too much, we should realize that we have no idea who uscwannabe is. What if turns out to be Greenday?
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"i fan club president now!11111 el bitchs!!!111111111"
:P
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I'd love for it to be Greenday. He's my number one hope, but he was too well spoken any time he has spoken to possibly be that guy.
GNT I doubt. Financial backing is a must for this guy and GNT's only good at mad science projects, which are hardly lucrative.
Philip... Entirely possible. I'd laugh, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it turned out to be the case, and this was all a big scam on their part.
If he wins I want the FC store to offer official white nuthuggers with a SWS.com logo on the one pantleg.
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Or Dale?
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:-X
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If he wins I want the FC store to offer official white nuthuggers with a SWS.com logo on the one pantleg.
Me too. Except the logo should go right over the ass since that's where they're giving it to us.
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The following is from someone at Rebelscum. I'm not gonna say who exactly, but let's just call him "Mave Dyatt."
As of right now that other guy is at 227 votes. Before I go on, I'd like to say that the below opinion is mine and mine alone...
This is BS. How can a guy who a) thinks TPM came out in 1996 b) admits to not being involved in his local fan community and c) is a complete unknown get 227 votes. I don't care who is pulling the wool over our eyes, but sure as s*** some one is. This contest is not being won legitimately. There is no way.
Dustin has been working his bag off on this and using only the SW En Direct interviews as a guide, he's clearly more involved in the community and equally clearly more articulate and intelligent.
I've never liked how LFL ran this contest and feel it is a slap in the collective face of the community, but I'm becoming more and more outraged by the insult.
Having been Dustin's friend and colleague for almost a decade, I know in my heart that he's a man who has earned this title, and I pray that LFL realizes that and disqualifies the guy with the shady background who has publicly told the community to "go ____ itself", proven to be a homophobe, and has riddled his public statements with pro-pot smoking references. (What you do in your own house is not my business, but our community has a lot of young impressionable members and having a fan club president who openly advocates 420 is wrong on too many levels)
If LFL allows this clown to be the fan club president, then I sincerely hope everyone asks for a refund and spends their hard earned money on a company that has their fan base's best interests in mind. I can just imagine the negative press LFL will get if this man wins.
I know he's said time and again that he isn't buying votes, but ask yourself how a guy who can't get names and dates right can get so many people to support him. And if it really is all friends and family supporting him, how can that be an honest reflection of what our community wants and needs.
Just how sour are those grapes, anyway? My God.
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I would think those bumblefucks would have the brains to realize that they've pissed off enough people over the last 10 years that most people are probably saying "Anyone but Dustin"
I know if I wanted to waste $40, I'd be voting for USCwannabe (after Jeff of course)
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That quote you left there Virex is just incredible... I mean, I'm even a little open-jawed at the arrogance in it alone, and that's the tip of the iceberg... The whole thing is just the entire opposite of what this whole election was supposed to be... Fun.
So much for this being just a jovial little game for the guys at Rebelscum... Dave can say that it isn't anyone's opinion but his own, but let's not play stupid here... Obviously there's anymosity among the staff over this thing.
What happened to this all being about "fun"? Who cares who wins, it's just a big "fun" thing for everyone involved to have a laugh about at the end right?
I've heard all kinds of **** about this it's not even funny... Everything from people mailing taunting stuff and even threats to some of the people trying to win this, to the obvious vote-buying and rampant whoring of campaigns, mudslinging, name calling... The works.
This thing was a big fat assed joke from day 1, and it's become nothing but amusing to me at this point.
It's nice to see just what kind of people love to get their hands dirty in this hobby when it all boils down to it... This Fan Club Campaign never was just "fun" to anyone, and it really hurt some feelings when the whole thing didn't pan out like some had hoped. All for a position of no power, just something to stroke one's own ego a little bit and win some ****.
To me, I say USWCWannaBe won the game the fairest way possible... On his own. To that end I applaud the guy.
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I would think those bumblefucks would have the brains to realize that they've pissed off enough people over the last 10 years that most people are probably saying "Anyone but Dustin"
If that's the case, then it shows how short sighted people can be. There were how many other people to throw support at?
If those are all anti-DLR votes then I am ashamed of our community.
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Is this thing over yet? I have my thank you letter all ready for uscwannabe. Great campaign! Wonderful to see the evil empire defeated!!!
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Today's the last day.
Anything could happen...
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Having been Dustin's friend and colleague for almost a decade, I know in my heart that he's a man who has earned this title, and I pray that LFL realizes that and disqualifies the guy with the shady background who has publicly told the community to "go ____ itself",
Is this tongue in cheek or tongue in *******?
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I'd like to revisit this paragraph, if I could--it's my favorite part of the whole deal:
Having been Dustin's friend and colleague for almost a decade, I know in my heart that he's a man who has earned this title, and I pray that LFL realizes that and disqualifies the guy with the shady background who has publicly told the community to "go ____ itself", proven to be a homophobe, and has riddled his public statements with pro-pot smoking references. (What you do in your own house is not my business, but our community has a lot of young impressionable members and having a fan club president who openly advocates 420 is wrong on too many levels)
I also heard that USCWannabe is:
- Pro-Gay Marriage
- Pro-terrorism
- Pro-high gas prices
- Pro-global warming
- Pro-baby eating
- Pro-spinach
- Anti-cookies
- Anti-cute little puppies
- Anti-Mom
- Anti-Baseball
- Anti-Apple Pie
- Anti-supporting the troops
And on top of all that, he never even served in Vietnam, like he said he did!
>:(
**** you, USCWannabe. How dare you beat Dustin and Rebelscum at their own game of whoring themselves out at every opportunity, just to make a quick buck.
How dare you.
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Not to spread rumors or anything, but I also heard he's Pro-JediDefender.
****** up, I know.
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USCWannabe? He also liked Howard the Duck. And, I've heard he not only can't cite every occurance of 1138 in the saga, but he actually thought the number of the trash compactor in Star Wars was 3273826. ::)
True fan my ass.
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It's hilarious how Dave and the crew over at RS are busting USC's balls for getting the date wrong on TPM, claiming he's not a real fan.
In my eyes he's more derserving than any of the yahoos over there. He's passionate enough about SW to get 220 people to sign up for a ****** subscription service without shameless plugs and $40 giveaways....
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Latest results! (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html)
1. uscwannabe 227
2. dustin@rebelscum.com 173
54 down, t-minus four hours and counting.
Dustin's mounting a comeback, but will it be enough?
Are 55 of Philip Wise's closest friends about to receive free Star Wars Hyperspace memberships?
Tune in tomorrow for the exciting conclusion!
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Oh, crucnh time...
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I believe I mistakenly posted my thoughts on this issue in the wrong thread a couple days ago, so allow me to regurgitate 'em over here so I can attempt to refute Mr. Myatt's asinine suggestion that they apparently now have two Gods over at RS: Greg(g), and Dustin now too...
I can't believe they are going so far as sending Dustin down here to Dallas this weekend to sell subscriptions at Phillip's convention!
Late reply here, I know, but I haven't made a peep in this thread throughout it's duration, despite my thorough detesting of Dustin (and Phillip). Please forgive any redundancy by me in here as well, as I haven't really followed this thread in ages, and am replying without catching up on most of the responses herein... Anyway, what's ludicrous about Phillip bringing Dustin all the way down to Dallas to work that show and to try to bribe people with those free $30 posters for a crappy Hyperspace membership, is that this whole thing is SUPPOSEDLY just to win a free trip to San Diego Comic Con. Completely ridiculous, considering Dustin could very well be working for Official Pix at SDCC anyway, if he'd like to (on Phillip's dime too, probably). Chauffering Dustin all the way down to Dallas really helps illustrate how incredibly desperate Phillip is to land the Fan Club President title for his websites. Kinda makes you wonder what evil plans Phillip actually has brewing if he (via Dustin) actually manages to win this thing. But remember, they're just doing this for "FUN", right? Phhhttht. Anyone who actually believes that bull**** that Phillip and Dustin are spewing would have to be the biggest idiot on the planet. You can damn well bet that Phillip wants that Fan Club President title attached to his website(s) more than anything in the world right now, and all the hours they're pouring into scouring the internet for referrals and advertising partners (why haven't they contacted us yet?), and the fact that he and Dustin have turned RS into nothing more than a giant campaign tool, really shows it. I'm sure Dustin's over-inflated ego wouldn't mind the (supposedly ceremonial) title either. Not about the "fun" at all, that's for damned sure. Greed, power and ego, more like.
I swear to God, it won't surprise me in the slightest little bit to see Phillip buy some 80+ subscriptions in the next day or two to miraculously pull the victory off. He's probably got a long list of recipients all ready to go, and is just waiting 'til the last minute to see how many he actually needs to purchase to buy off the Fan Club President title for his sites (note, not for Dustin).
Besides, who would want some prick like Dustin running the Star Wars Fan Club who would wind up banning any and all members who may also be interested in Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica (for example), or worse yet, if they're actually members of their Fan Clubs too?! Pretty sure any support of, or participation in, any competing Sci-Fi franchises would be immediate grounds for a permanent banning of any such people from the Star Wars Fan Club, if Dustin was running the thing. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of person we want in charge of our favorite hobby, no doubt. If they do manage to pull buy off the miracle, I'd fully expect everyone here at JD (and maybe even GH) to suddenly, mysteriously, start having all kinds of problems with their Hyperspace/Insider subscriptions, and maybe even their SWS.com orders... ::)
Phillip and Dustin are just way too greedy, petty, power-hungry, unprofessional, insecure, deceitful, authoritative, disrespectful, and "un-fanlike" to warrant them any involvement with the Fan Club in any official capacity whatsoever. It's disgusting enough to see what a big (and growing) piece of the Star Wars pie Phillip is constantly getting his greedy grubby mitts into. Even if he doesn't buy the Fan Club Presidency off this time, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it somehow fall under his control someday. I absolutely dread the thought.
It would have been nicer if Dustin had come in and addressed his old E-mail instead of the OSWCC Public Relations Officer...
Actually, when Dustin started summarily and inexplicably banning any JD affiliated people from the 'Scum boards (staff and forum members alike), he specifically stated to me that he has NEVER, EVER clicked onto the JediDefender website - be it our news page, forums, or anything else, and never will. So I'm quite sure he's not enjoying reading this thread, and not getting upset by the comments herein, and not sending people to respond in here on his behalf. Just like when Greg(g) didn't get upset when Scot(t) outted his goofy ass picture and high-school (not "30-something") identity in here... :P
Oddly enough, I was banned from Rebelscum about a minute and a half after my "Dustin is nothing more than Phillip Wise's Rick McCallum" comment over here about a year ago. Yeah, I'm sure Dustin didn't read that either, and that the timing of my banning was pure coincidence. Heh.
In closing, I'd just like to say: Go uscwannabe! Whoever you are, you couldn't possibly be a less worthy candidate for the Fan Club President than Phillip Dustin. But hurry up everyone and get your subscriptions in for Phillip/Dustin's main competition, 'cause so far, I'd have to say I'm completely disappointed in your totally underwhelming support for him so far... :-X
- Matt
This is BS. How can a guy who ... b) admits to not being involved in his local fan community and c) is a complete unknown ... and the guy with the shady background who has publicly told the community to "go ____ itself", proven to be a homophobe, and has riddled his public statements with pro-pot smoking references, possibly have 227 votes...?
****. Are you telling me that we've all sent in our subrscription renewals for Katmandu/Mister Kenobi?!? :o
I've gotta say, it's absolutely priceless seeing Myatt whine like a scorned little girl over this, as I'm sure Phillip and Dustin are both doing behind the scenes as well. The three of them don't deserve ****, and if they think Dustin is the right person to (fairly) run the Fan Club, then they've been smoking more dope than uscwannabe and Mister Kenobi combined!
Are 55 of Philip Wise's closest friends about to receive free Star Wars Hyperspace memberships?
No doubt in my mind. They're even setting up their excuse already: Hey, uscwannabe MUST be buying votes (how else could he possibly be beating our beloved Dustin), so we're going to play the same game. I'd bet my collection on it that Phillip, Dustin, and Myatt are all sending in subscription, after subscription, after subscription, as we speak...
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That'll be the icing on the cake, and thank god that Virex quoted Myatt's post in here before it could magically disappear at RS if they do attempt the buy-out move...
If they do, I'd be ashamed to show my face as a member of the staff if I'd taken a healthy **** on that move like Myatt did... And if they miraculously come up with 55 votes here at the final moments, does anyone really think they'll all be valid? Hell no... But they'll make the argument I'd wager. I could easily see them trying to buy it. If you ask me, giving away $40 in merchandise is the same thing... In accounting/economic terms, the $40 give-away **** at Dallas was no better than buying them yourselves... You pulled the same punch just with a twist. You gave up your own asset for the vote instead of outright liquidating $40 in merchandise and buying it. The difference is absolutely nothing... You bought a vote by baiting a vote... Same thing.
It's why you're not allowed to stand outside polling stations offering free hoagies for a vote... To look at it any other way is hypocritical of Dave...
I don't know Dave/Dustin all that well to comment on them as people so I won't call their character into judgment. What I do know about them is how they put themselves out in public in the greater SW community... What I see out of Dustin is a lot of condescending attitude towards people on his forum. Hell I was told at the time about how the mass bannings were going down over there, and how it was a big free-for-all against people for having a simple JediDefender.com link in their signature... no investigation into the matter, just "ban 'em" on the word of GNT and some others without so much as a look to see if who they were banning deserved it at the time...
I've seen less from Dave overall but he's hardly coming up rosey after his tantrum post Virex quoted. Throwing a fit over this just is sad after there was so much rampant insistance this was all just for fun and to have a good time with a little contest... Now it's important? And to denounce someone for "buying" votes when Rebelscum themselves have essentially bought votes by giving away $40 in merchandise for a vote is simply a hypocritical point of view... Whether you hand over the $40 or give a $40 autograph so they blow the cash on the membership is irrelevant. It's the same thing; buying of votes.
This whole thing just shows some really ugly sides of people to me.
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It's all for fun, guys.
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Brad's right. The only people taking this seriously are you guys. Everybody else is having fun with it. Even that big ol' rant that Dave put up the other day--that was all in fun, too. You guys are just so hellbent on nitpicking every little thing coming out of the Rebelscum camp that you just couldn't see it for the big joke it was. If you knew the guys at Rebelscum, you'd know that they don't even care if Dustin won or not. If anything, they're glad he's losing, because this just means they'll have plenty of time to plan for all the fun that we're all gonna have next year when the next president needs to be elected. Can you guys imagine? Probably not, because you're all just a bunch of mean-spirited fun-haters.
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So what was the final results? I can't find it on the offical site. I assume Roberts didn't win since there isn't any fireworks or big messages over at RS.
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There still reviewing the hanging chads..... ::)
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Editor's Note: The contest is closed as of 11:59 p.m. Pacific time, May 15, 2006. The referrals are being verified and tallied. Stay tuned to starwars.com for official final results.
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Oh man, I hope I can hold on to fourth place... :-\
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In case the following quote gets deleted from Dustin's thread, which I'm not paranoid enough to believe it will:
You know what I wonder? If the whole title of "Fan Club President" wasn't part of this contest, if the prize was simply a free trip to SDCC and a bag of SW tchotchkes, would USC or Dustin have tried so hard to win? Everyone talks about USC's diabolical agenda, but I find it hard to believe Dustin would have flown all the way to Dallas to sell subscriptions just for a free trip to San Diego and a handful of collectibles. He probably would have put the money spent on that trip towards his trip to San Diego.
Obviously, despite the "honorary" status of the title, it brings with it at least a bit of an ego boost for the winner, which is fine and that's probably at least part of the reason this race was run so hard. However, let's be honest, if Dustin wins this thing (and I'm not yet convinced he has lost given the Hyperwaste recruiter's website says: "As indicated, these referrals have not been verified and do not include all referral sources. These standings are not final."), we are going to see "Rebelscum.com, Home of the Star Wars Fan Club President!" splashed all over the place. And I'd be willing to bet RS will be mentioned prominently in every article or speech Dustin gives. That's fine, just don't kid yourself that Dustin and Phillip didn't have an agenda of their own that goes beyond some prizes and and a phoney title. USC wants to use the position to make industry contacts and/or further his influence? And Dustin and Phillip don't? Please. ::)
Lastly, I find the attitudes of the staff here really interesting. Members complain that they are sick of seeing the campaign ads all over the front page and the retort from the staff is, "If you don't like it, you don't have to come here." Nice attitude; glad to see customer service is alive at well at RS. Sure, some of the members didn't voice their opinions very tactfully, but what do you expect when they've been conditioned by the tactless responses they've received in the past?
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You know, RS to me, is like the K-Mart / Sears of the eighties. On top of the world with not a single care that someone might jump in and take their #1 spot.
Look where they ended up...
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Its basically an affirmination that RS isn't the Pimp Daddy site it thinks it is. The best way to send a message to Wise is by voting against Roberts. I think that is exactly what happened. Besides, we all know (at least in the customs section) who the real Pimp Daddy is.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/Darth_Ennis/Star%20Wars%20Customs%20Customs/Clone%20Wars/pimpdaddykenobi.jpg)
Sorry for the customs commerical. ;D
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Here's another Laugh-O-Rama from Myatt:
There is no agenda here. Anyone who knows DLR knows that he's the outgoing selfless sort of dude that should be fan club president. When it was suggested to him he ran with it. He flew down to Dallas strictly in an attemt to get more votes.
As for the site sponsors, I know some of you think we're making money hand over fist, but trust me, what money is made by the sponsoships goes right back to the monthly bills to run this site and TFN... These site's aren't cheap.
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As for the site sponsors, I know some of you think we're making money hand over fist, but trust me, what money is made by the sponsoships goes right back to the monthly bills to run this site and TFN... These site's aren't cheap.
Neither is buying subscriptions for the selfless and outgoing DLR.
::)
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USC is up by almost 100
I find Dave's head up his ass responses to the criticism levied by mousedroid and Bill to be some funny stuff
I really cannot believe how they don't see themselves as being arrongant pricks about this whole thing. I'd also like to point out that outside of the 411 reports earlier this year, I don't think RS breaks much news.
My other favorite thing about this is they have no clue how lucky they are to even have their glorious forums. Sullenger must be kicking himself each and every day over that one :-[
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:D Fun! :D
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I'm also quite certain that most/all of the RS staffers are e-mailing the pertinent SW.com people, and anyone else they know who could potentially pull some strings for them (like Sansweet, perhaps), and shoving the biggest smear campaign about uscwannabe at anyone important who will listen, just so they'll pass the title, and all the power that Phillip plans to use with it, along to Dustin for his distant second place finish.
I think everyone should start e-mailing SW.com and telling them that they voted for uscwannabe, since that was a vote AGAINST Dustin, Phillip, Myatt and RS, since they are the last people who should be in charge of the Fan Club. For them to suggest otherwise is completely preposterous. They're egos are so over-inflated that they don't have the slightest clue that half the collecting community honestly hates the **** out of them, and knows them for what they are: Greedy, egotistical, powerhungry jerks, who will tell anyone and everyone who says something "not nice" to them to "Get a life and move on", or "I'm God, so deal with it". Classic RS quotes, if ever there were some. It's the predominating theme over there with those guys. It's sad that they don't even realize it, and likely never will...
Despite uscwannabe's 100+ point insurmountable lead, I'm still very much dreading the results of this thing, with the bull**** influence that I'm sure Wise is throwing around every which way right now. He's not use to not getting what he wants, so there would be no greater joy to many people in the collecting community if SW.com and the Fan Club Presidency told Dustin and Phillip to "Get a life, and move along", and stop your incessant bitching and whining, you stupid little cry-babies!
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I can't believe some of the stuff that is being said over at Scum over this stupid contest. People complianing that USC bought the vote lets see who was it that went to Dallas with merchdise to give away to get people to vote for him... Dustin, not USC. Until we actually see and hear from USC we won't know how he won the vote maybe he is popular at school or something and had his classmates vote for him. I'm just glad Dustin/RS lost this contest to someone who it seems no one knows anything about.
I doubt the contest would be fixed so that no one wins like some people are saying with USC being someone at LFL and in turn I doubt LFL would change the outcome because RS had a Temper Tantrums about losing.
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I think people should e-mail the folks in charge of this contest a link to the Dustin for President thread at RS, so they can see not only what dicks the RS staff are being about it, but how it has divided the SW fan community, not to mention how much people detest Hyperwaste. Maybe then we won't have to sit through this crap again next year.
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outside of the 411 reports earlier this year, I don't think RS breaks much news.
That's a good point.
They make a lot of posts, but a very small number of them are newsworthy.
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I notice news posts here and on Yodasnews.com before RS.com posts it. GH.com used to be fast too but they've been behind the ball on breaking news.
And how often does RS post news that's already broken overseas on that German site (4-inches I think the name is)? They are definitely not the first to break news all the time.
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RS is pretty worthless as a whole, for me. The lame ass google ads were pretty much the final straw, I think - god only knows what kind of spyware and **** Phil has rigged on that page.
GalacticHunter was fast and hopping in the early days, but for a long while its been dead. All the front page seems to be good for anymore is "Figure of the Day" "specials" to appear active. Frankly, I prefer no news, than that awful, lame filler. I really like the folks that make up their community, though... they've totally got that going for them.
I'm also quite certain that most/all of the RS staffers are e-mailing the pertinent SW.com people, and anyone else they know who could potentially pull some strings for them (like Sansweet, perhaps), and shoving the biggest smear campaign about uscwannabe at anyone important who will listen, just so they'll pass the title, and all the power that Phillip plans to use with it, along to Dustin for his distant second place finish.
Oh, you know they wouldn't just be calling the upper management on this one... I bet those sorry asses are calling every single extension under SW.com, from the foreign-operated customer service and help hotline to the ******* downstairs laundry room, if SW.com HQ had such a thing.
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It's two days after the poles have closed and a winner has not ben announced. Makes me think the whole "RS is putting up a fuss" thing might actually be reality.
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This delay in announcing the results seems kind of fuuny. Isn't like there are issues with hanging chads. Even with USCwannabe's lead it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there is some kind of political "Hail Mary" to give DR the win.
Who knew a sales contest could have so much drama?
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Who knew a sales contest could have so much drama?
You mean 'fun', right?
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Of course because it's always about the fun
And the children....
And for right to live free....
And for all the fans....
And for Tiny Tim.....
And for victims of the Titanic disaster....
And for Richard Simmons.....
And for Seniors who can't afford Depends.....
And for the whales....
And for out of work porn stars....
It's not for greed or ego inflation.
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Hey, where'd the Dustin for Pres thread go over there?
Where has all the fun gone to?
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Sure is taking them a long time to figure out how to catch Dustin up to beat USC.
I'm glad I didn't vote.
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Hey, where'd the Dustin for Pres thread go over there?
Where has all the fun gone to?
Page 2 and locked (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1752673&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1752673)
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So funny that after a month of constant FRONT PAGE posting about the contest, they lock the thread because, as Dustin put it, "This thread has pretty much run its course." And just when it was getting interesting, too...
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To Dustin's defense I was really disinterested in reading how those guys couldn't get boners, or they could get boners, or whatever they were talking about boners about, and their prescriptions that cause their boners to vary.
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Speak for yourself.
Pompous bastard. ;)
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To Dustin's defense I was really disinterested in reading how those guys couldn't get boners, or they could get boners, or whatever they were talking about boners about, and their prescriptions that cause their boners to vary.
Well, I suspect Mr. 10,000 doesn't really have those problems, now does he?
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Not with an avatar like mine I don't, obviously. I'm a walking one really.
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I just thought I'd jump in here and say I got 3 hypersnatch issues today and they suck. I wasted $40 on you Jeff. I hate you.
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Thank you for your support.
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They still haven't announced the winner... so Jeff very well might be the winner!
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What a coincidence? The biggest supporter of Dustin gets his ebay auction pimped on the front page. ::)
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That's not a payoff for all of ibedave's _____'ing, is it?
It's all for fun, right?
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What a coincidence? The biggest supporter of Dustin gets his ebay auction pimped on the front page. ::)
haha, now that's funny. I actually mentioned that to someone too Jay, funny you caught it as well...
Kind of ironic after all that was said in their now locked campaign thread, and then out of the blue an auction link's on the main page for the biggest Rebelscum supporter in it all... I mean, come on... It doesn't look any better either that it's Dustin throwing the Ebay Today story up there and I don't think that's something he ever did before.
Hey, it's like a real political campaign though... You scratch my back, and I scratch yours... :) Fun fun fun!
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I like how he urges everyone to turn off their protection software so they can "see the link", I guess ol' PW recently added Spyware to the site?
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Still no President? You'd think they're counting the ballots in Florida. :o
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Seriously. How hard is it to look at the final result and declare a winner? Something has to be up. I call conspiracy!
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They're double-counting the money that flowed in at the last minute from PW.
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Wouldn't we all **** if they announced Dustin as the winner?
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I would cancel my subscription.
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Wouldn't we all **** if they announced Dustin as the winner?
I wouldn't. I was expecting that last minute "over the top" thing for the whole campaign, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
However..the fact that they haven't announced a winner yet is really weird. Just how long does it take to count all the votes up? I could have counted to 300 at least....2 or 3 times by now. ;D
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If they buy the win last minute, it'll be the ultimate laugh in the face at all their crying in that campaign thread that got locked up over there. Part of me almost hopes it happens just to show how utterly hypocritical the whole thing was.
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Still nothing? What a bunch of crap.
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I'm smellin' some bull****. :) This is fun though, remember?
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(http://www.emerchandise.com/images/p/SBS/pdSTSBS0011.jpg)
Bundles of it!
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Hasbro to disgruntled fans:Even though USCWannabe got the most votes, Dustin got the important votes.
I'd put $5 on it. What's that...12% of a Hyperspace account?
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F is for fire that burns down everything...
U is for uranium bombsssssss...
N is for no survivorsssss...
And that's how I spell fun!
(http://www.rakishtilt.com/archives/plankton.jpg)
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La Revolución es muerta. :'( :'( :'(
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/Jeff_07_v2.jpg)
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I just see a little blue box with a question mark. :(
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F - is for fun we do things together
U- is ukalali
N- is for N-ytime N-ywhere at all down here in teh deep blue see.
hahhaaahhhahaa
ok I'm done If we don't get results soon, Ewok and his tribe should get thier spiked bats and have a Hayday over @ the hyperspace office. You know you want to Ewok :-*
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I guess we'll know sometime before SDCC...
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I guess we'll know sometime before SDCC...
You would hope! :P
Especially if it would require a person taking vacation from work or whatever. A lot of jobs require 2+ weeks notice in advance.
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"All Star Wars Fans,
My name is Tom Costabile and I am currently the lead runner up in the Presidency contest at Hyperspace.com, known on that site as USCWANNABE. I have been intently working on trying to win this election and have come to the conclusion that I can't win this with just friends and family... I'm going to need the help of the millions of fans Star Wars has adopted for itself to win this contest so I've decided to write this letter to introduce myself and my ideas for the fan club presidency.
As long as I can remember I have been a Star Wars freak. There was something about these films that enticed me in such a way that I became obsessed with it. By the time I was about 15 I started doing terrible things. Drinking all the time, doing drugs, in and out of jail, and one day I popped in ESB in my VCR and all those feelings you felt as a child came back to me in that 2 hours. Remembering what it was like to be 5 and watching those films. Remembering how you as a 5 year old thought your life was going to turn out just fine by the time you were 25. Where you would be, what your job would be, what your wife would look like, all the questions to the most difficult problems a young adult can imagine, but to a 5 yeard old it is simple and true. You were going to be rich, you would never smoke cigarettes or do drugs, your kids would be perfect, your house would be gigantic, your wife was Carrie Fisher, etc.
So I turned it around. I went back to school and got my GED. I went to college for Media Arts and Animation (because I wanted to be GL) and got my bachelors. I moved to Studio City, Ca to go to USC (hence USCWANNABE) and started my real life, the one I envisioned when I was 5, and within 3 years I own multiple corporations, my dream houses, my dream cars, I don't do drugs and I own a wonderful collection of high end SW props and vehicles. In essence, I have everything I have ever wanted for myself and I have Star Wars and George Lucas to thank for it, and my way of giving back is to take my place in the SW world and be the best damn Fan Club president anyone can. I have a few ideas for how I can make it better for us as fans :
I feel that we are entering a very scary time in terms of our beloved Star Wars. For the first time in SW history we are in a realm of uncertainty as to what's going to happen next. For the entire time SW has been in our lives we knew there was going to be more, it was just a matter of time, and now, according to Lucas there will never be another film. Of course we're going to have the video games, the board games and the television shows and so on, but nothing, absolutely nothing can compare to watching the midnight showing of a new Star Wars film. It's probably the greatest experiences of my life and I don't want it to end! I feel that there is a way around this though. If there were more conventions than SW would stay alive forever. If we as fans can come together more frequently I believe SW would never leave us and its that simple. We need to urge LucasFilm to produce more functions in more cities all over the world in order to satisfy the needs of the true fans and as president this will be my number one priority. Not just every 3 years, but every year. Not in just one city but multiple cities. One of the things I found to be disturbing was that because it was in Indianapolis, and only in Indianapolis, it was extremely hard for a lot of people to come there. They would have to get time off work, save up money, and make room for this in their personal lives. These reasons deterred alot of people away and that I feel is not fair to them. It should not cost an extrordinary amount of money and time to celebrate these films and now that there won't be any movies its all we have to look forward to as a group. If LucasFilm will not cooperate with this I feel that we should come together as a group and make it happen ourselves and as President of the fan club I would be more than happy to make all of the arrangements and make this happen!
I also feel that SW fans are probably the most enlightened and creative people on the planet. We at an early age saw the talent that went into making these films and have been trying to find that talent within ourselves ever since, and the best part about it is many of us have but we don't know what to do with it!! Especially in a day and age where there are more film students than law students and a time where the world is the smallest its ever been in the history of the Earth. We as a society are watching films from England, France, Japan and so on and seeing the impact that SW has had on not just the USA, but the world!! I propose that if I become president I begin an organization where people from all over the planet can submit their artworks (not just SW stuff) and gain the assistance of people in the entertainment industry. From writing to storyboarding to CGI to film and all that has to do with it. An organization by SW fans for SW fans!! A way to come up and not need noone but ourselves to make it happen. If we took all the talent that is in the group of people that will read this letter and put it together in a serious way your talking American Zoetrope to the tenth power. Your talking about possibly the next wave of great filmmakers. A way for me to give back.
This has been a long letter, I know, but I felt an obligation to do this. If I don't win this contest I want everyone who reads this to know how I feel about everything that has been going on around us in the SW society as an extremely concerned fan. I think that everyone I have ever met at the conventions and the midnight showings and the Weekends at Disney have been the greatest, greatest group of people this world has to offer, and I am so greateful that I'm a part of it. May the force be with you all. "
Sincerely,
Thomas Costabile
USCWANNABE"
I sure hope he won and not that arrogant jerk from that otheR Site-especially since 'our guy' entered late and didn't have much of a shot at it :(
Easy to see 'conspiracy' or 'buy-out' if Roberts is claimed the winner >:(
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For as many people who were voting for Dustin, I'm willng to bet that USCWANNABE was getting more anti-dustin votes.
BTW, I can see the pciture now Rob. Thanks.
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I don't care who wins, as long as it isn't Dustin.
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I still can't believe there's been this long of a delay to announce a winner. I hat to suspect that someone is taking the time and energy to rig a Star Wars FC President contest. It'l like someone rigging the Special Olympics. It just doesn't make sense.
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http://www.empiremovies.com/images/posters/the-ringer.jpg
One of you guys with Photoshop skills might be able to make this funny pertaining to Wise and Dustin ;)
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...and within 3 years I own multiple corporations, my dream houses, my dream cars, I don't do drugs and I own a wonderful collection of high end SW props and vehicles....
I wanna know how he did ALL that in just 3 years? He must have been rich to begin with to own multiple corporations in just 3 years. Something seems funny to me about all of that... God Bless him if it's the truth. I wish I had that luck and drive.
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Two rich guys buying up subscriptions for themselves.
Lame.
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Sometimes I read that letter by USCWANNABE and I feel like..somehow it's like one of those success stories about someone on tV that tried to sell a new product and turned their life around..went into real estate, turned life around..ect.
It just does seem too good to be true/fake.
A made up letter and person to generate more subscriptions for the fan club like others in here had previously suggested?!
Possible conspirators would have had to known that enough folks hated Dustin's arrogant-ass, my-way-or-the-highway modding style to generate this much anti Dustin votes-with the fan club benefitting from all the anti-Dustin subscriptions. Now, in the end, the conspirators could claim that Dustin won and throw their phony candidate in the trash? The long delay would be perfect...the fan club could claim the amount of last minute votes that came in made the race close and that's why it took so long for the final winner to be determined....
I know it supposed to be "all in fun ::)"..perhaps I'm looking into this too much ???. Well, I know anyway that if the vote comes out like I think I will be pissed. Will definately 'have fun' being pleasantly surpried if I'm wrong.
The DS
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"Pay no attention to the dork behind the curtain"
http://www.oswcc.com/gallery/SOUTH-051306/imagepages/image1.htm
You may all vomit now...
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Give me a towel. My keyboard is now very damp...and sticky...and it has an odd stench...why is the stuff blue? Have I been eating too much blueberry pie?
I tried to hold my dinner down...but the picture...it's horror...
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It just occured to me, perhaps the official announcement and introduction will be made at Comic-con.
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Ahhh...you have a point there. Maybe the person who won already knows they won, but they're not going to tell...
Boy that would stink. another month of waiting.
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I keep checking this thread, cuz I don't really want to hit up anywhere else, but still nothing. Getting hard to hold my breath.
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ready to vomit? 'bout imagining you're at the Hasblow Q and A or a 'Steve S.' speech at the CC and then there's like this surprise introduction to the new Fan Club Pres and then out walks cocky, smug Dustin with an arrogant smile...where's the towel? Worse yet he's stationed at the SWS Booth >:(?
Please, Please, nooo.
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LOL this is a great episode of The cantina that Bill Cable did for the week.
Fan club presidency and The fans choice action figures.
http://www.creaturecantina.com/thecantina/2006/0607.html
LOL that was great. I still can't beleive we havn't heard anything yet.
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Classic. 8)
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So very true :P
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Too funny.
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Thank you for your glorious praise. 8)
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It sucks as much as Creature Cantina.
;)
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ready to vomit? 'bout imagining you're at the Hasblow Q and A or a 'Steve S.' speech at the CC and then there's like this surprise introduction to the new Fan Club Pres and then out walks cocky, smug Dustin with an arrogant smile...where's the towel? Worse yet he's stationed at the SWS Booth
Don't you think if Dustin had won all those campaign threads over at RS would still be going?
I imagine that other dude probably won and when Lucasfilm contacted him they said "Wow, this guy isn't really that much of a figurehead. We'll just give him his goodies and let him be on his way".
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I forget why, but I thought it went into some talk about people masturbating or something like that... I figured that's why it got locked.
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(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif) LOL are you serious. (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/starwars/star-wars-smiley-026.gif)
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well...thats an umm..."nice" subject....
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...with all the circle jerking in the Ohio group, it doesn't shock me that Dusty's pals would be talking about that subject...
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I don't know who started it, but I recall something came up in the thread. It went off the rails as they say.
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Looks like it's official.
Meet the New Fan Club President! (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/news20060710.html)
Dustin Wins Fan Club President! (http://www.rebelscum.com/dlrwins.asp)
Who woulda thunk!
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That's as shocking as the sky being blew...
intentional typo, but you know someone was....
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Somehow I can't say I'm supprised.
It's a good thing Myatt was whinning about all the vote buying and the right guy ended up winning. Cause we all know Philip and Dustin wouldn't buy votes.... Right?
::)
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You know, I'm just ******* pissed at that. A regular fan had no chance to win and instead the entire thing is being wasted on an insider that already gets benefits others don't have access to.
It's not even a RS.com or Dustin issue, I'd be upset if anyone related to a fan site had won this thing. Just like any contest you see, employees or associates aren't eligible. I'd argue that fan sites with inside connections like RS.com should be exempt as should their employees.
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My ass kind of hurts. Glad I didn't throw away $40 on USC.
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This contest had no intergity or even anything close to what being a fan is.
So glad I didn't re-up and contribute to this stupidity.
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I'm not too suprise to see this announcement being made since there was such a huge delay in telling who the winner was. I hope the offical site explains what the total votes where and what PW was talking about with this quote:
I think maybe some of you might not have considered the possibility that there were rules in the contest that affected the outcome.
Reading the rules it could be USC had something in his background that disqualfied him but they should at least explain that.
Also does Dustin work with Offical Pix? I ask because that should disqualify him since it works with Lucas Film in getting autograph pictures out.
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If they buy the win last minute, it'll be the ultimate laugh in the face at all their crying in that campaign thread that got locked up over there. Part of me almost hopes it happens just to show how utterly hypocritical the whole thing was.
:D
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The following is from someone at Rebelscum. I'm not gonna say who exactly, but let's just call him "Mave Dyatt."
As of right now that other guy is at 227 votes. Before I go on, I'd like to say that the below opinion is mine and mine alone...
This is BS. How can a guy who a) thinks TPM came out in 1996 b) admits to not being involved in his local fan community and c) is a complete unknown get 227 votes. I don't care who is pulling the wool over our eyes, but sure as s*** some one is. This contest is not being won legitimately. There is no way.
Dustin has been working his bag off on this and using only the SW En Direct interviews as a guide, he's clearly more involved in the community and equally clearly more articulate and intelligent.
I've never liked how LFL ran this contest and feel it is a slap in the collective face of the community, but I'm becoming more and more outraged by the insult.
Having been Dustin's friend and colleague for almost a decade, I know in my heart that he's a man who has earned this title, and I pray that LFL realizes that and disqualifies the guy with the shady background who has publicly told the community to "go ____ itself", proven to be a homophobe, and has riddled his public statements with pro-pot smoking references. (What you do in your own house is not my business, but our community has a lot of young impressionable members and having a fan club president who openly advocates 420 is wrong on too many levels)
If LFL allows this clown to be the fan club president, then I sincerely hope everyone asks for a refund and spends their hard earned money on a company that has their fan base's best interests in mind. I can just imagine the negative press LFL will get if this man wins.
I know he's said time and again that he isn't buying votes, but ask yourself how a guy who can't get names and dates right can get so many people to support him. And if it really is all friends and family supporting him, how can that be an honest reflection of what our community wants and needs.
Just how sour are those grapes, anyway? My God.
Bumped just for posterity. This post is one of the classics of all time right now.
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I didn't win? ???
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I didn't win? ???
You're one of a handful of people in the entire world who won the exclusive Rayrob t-shirt; is that not enough? Some people. Sheesh.
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The way I see it, somethin' shady was going on--either with USC during the "election," or with Philip Wise afterward.
But it's all about the "fun," as Philip has already repeated ad nauseam in the RS thread--so I hope everybody keeps that in mind as RS ***** it down everyone's neck for the next year.
"Rebelscum.com, Home of Star Wars Fan Club President, Dustin Roberts"
Puke.
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So wait, it takes them several extra months to count the votes (despite them being counted as they were cast) and somehow the guy who was behind by how many votes (30? 50?) manages to win?
Complete, and total, bull****.
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But isn't it nice how Triumph recorded a congrats for him?
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I think it was more like 100 votes behind :P.
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Some days are great in SW Geekdom, this wasn't one of them, the news that two EU figures won the Fan's Choice Poll and that this smug bastard bought the Fan Club election...I agree with Matthew...puke
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The only thing positive I can say about the whole thing is that USCWannabe was gonna buy it too, so ultimately Dustin didn't do anything differently, what is disgusting about it though is that it's played off like something it isn't... I don't bemoan Dustin getting it so much as the fact that nobody's really being honest about the whole thing.
None of it was "Fun" to anyone who was actually in the running... That's such a blatant lie, it's condescending of them to even play the game that all they ever wanted to do was have a good time with the whole shitpile that was this "election". It's so clearly NOT fun whenever the winner couldn't seemingly buy himself the gig... Now it seems that the obvious shenanigans are AOK when they work to your favor.
The whole thing was silly to begin with and I don't think many people here ever thought it was going to turn out ANY other way than it has, myself included. This is exactly what I figured, and the big ass rant about buying the election is a million times more comically hypocritical now than it was a few months back.
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Oh man, I am so going to heckling this SOB at Comic Con! Anyone have an e-mail address to the fan club? I am going to cancel my subscription over this.
Oh Philip if you are reading this...I used to go byt he name "TRAKKERZOG"...I am sure you remeber me...I used to flay your back side on a daily basis over on the old school message boards several years ago.
With no more movies on the horizon my interest in Star Wars is waining (sp?)...this may completly extinguish the fire now.
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Oh man, I am so going to heckling this SOB at Comic Con! Anyone have an e-mail address to the fan club? I am going to cancel my subscription over this.
Great idea on the heckling. I'm canceling my subscrition as well. There's a number on the contents page you can call to talk to them personally.
I'm not surprised over the outcome either, but it is sad none the less.
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Could you post that number here for us lazy bastards?
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Could you post that number here for us lazy bastards?
I'm on vacation. :P Someone else is going to have to do it. BTW, the person who answers the phone has to give you another number to call. :P
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Oh man, I am so going to heckling this SOB at Comic Con! Anyone have an e-mail address to the fan club? I am going to cancel my subscription over this.
Great idea on the heckling. I'm canceling my subscrition as well. There's a number on the contents page you can call to talk to them personally.
I'm not surprised over the outcome either, but it is sad none the less.
Even though I HATE USC (the school) with a PASSION I am thinking of dressing up like the TROJAN mascot (or maybe just deck myself out is SC gear)...I will however be pumping my two fingers in the "V" symbol that USC fans do all the time while he is talking. If they complain I am going to tell the truth if they try to have me removed...this is the simply the symbol for VICTORY!!!
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Here's the number: 510-768-2700. I found it in the Insider thread.
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i feel the need to break something. it's not about Dustin, it's about how PW gets a cut of the subscription you pay, which i find just sick. i wanted dustin to lose so that it would be the ultimate slap in PW's face
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They must be joking. Ugghhhh. Hopefully Dustin has his own brain, and not Phil's hand lodged up his poopchute.
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While it's BS that the guy in 2nd Place won (I want to know why/how that happened), am I the only one who considers this Fan Club to not even exist? It's really just people paying $40 for a magazine subscription and to visit SW.com. I think that me buying figures and posting on JD is more of a fan club.
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Oh Philip if you are reading this...I used to go byt he name "TRAKKERZOG"...
Whatchamazog?
Thorax and a bog?
Laxative Log?
Lap Lander Zog?
Four Yaks and a Dog?
Sap Sucker Frog?
...Susan?
:)
Sorry...back to our regularly scheduled skepticism.
I'm with others when I say I saw this one coming once the "silence" hit us post-election. The whole thing was a big ******* joke to begin with and really did nothing but **** on the integrity of RS, Philip, Dustin, the Fan Club, and everyone involved. Or at least everyone that took it seriously. ;)
John
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Yeah Jeff, you too. You and your fancy pants promises of golden highways and a figure in every collector's hand.
Dick. >:(
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I love all the "we were kept in the dark, just like you guys" talk from Philip & Co.
You just know that he was raising all kinds of hell behind the scenes the minute after the polls closed. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during one of those conversations.
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While it's BS that the guy in 2nd Place won (I want to know why/how that happened), am I the only one who considers this Fan Club to not even exist? It's really just people paying $40 for a magazine subscription and to visit SW.com. I think that me buying figures and posting on JD is more of a fan club.
The "fan club" hasn't really been a fan club for about 6-7 years, since before WOTC bought it out. Back in the day, members got nice little treats like micro machine sets, cool renewal packs, the ability to order exclusives first and for less than non-members. The Insider was the place to find out all sorts of info you couldn't read about anywhere else and had a very fan-friendly vibe to it. I guess it didn't lead to things like what your local collector's club might do, but it was certainly more fun long ago.
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This it utterly disgusting. I'll be canceling my pitiful subscription as well. I only bought it to support Jeff. I posted a test blog over there when I gained access to my account and those piece of **** moderators locked it because they deemed it unworthy. I would have raised hell because I pay for that service and I can post as I damn please on my blog but there is no one to bitch to besides their wannabe "moderators" who don’t give a damn. I'll just add that to my list of reasons for cancellation, not that anyone will care. Utter ****. Nice job buying the election Wise. ::)
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Well looks like Im not going to Fan Club Day at Celebration 4. I was waiting for the outcome of this before I bought my stupid subscription. Now knowing Grandpa Munster gets a cut I won't be buying that ****.
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Who didn't see this coming? There was the clause in the "rules" that the "winner" had to pass a background check. They could at least give us a b.s. excuse like Dustin had 100+ "absentee ballots", but they will never tell us what happened.
I have noticed how all the Dustinites say things like USC promotes drugs, hates the fans, doesn't know when TPM came out, steps on puppies, etc., but has anyone actually seen/heard where all this was posted. The only thing I have seen about USC is his blog on starwars.com and his campaign annoucements on yodanews and the privateuniverse...that is it. I can't find this supposed myspace account or any other info on this guy. Anyone else get the feeling that this USC guy was Sidious while Dustin was playing Palpatine? Unless he used stolen credit cards to buy these subscriptions, you would think we would hear at least something from USC.
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There's not much to say that hasn't already been said.
It's bull****, no two ways about it.
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Congrats to Dustin for winning, but I have to say, this does seem really unfair. It's really wrong of the fan club to not even acknowledge the vote totals and what happened to USCwannabe. That's unfair to USCwannabe and Dustin as well because it becomes a tainted victory....
And FYI, the number for the fan club is 1-866-205-0034.
Sallah
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I figure soon we will start hearing PW complaining about folks cancelling their subscriptions. When this happens it will pretty much 'uncover' the cover up....the RS 'in league' with the contest judges conspiracy.
Disgusting :P
The DS
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Well looks like Im not going to Fan Club Day at Celebration 4. I was waiting for the outcome of this before I bought my stupid subscription. Now knowing Grandpa Munster gets a cut I won't be buying that ****.
How could Wise get a cut of the subscription money? I thought he got some sort of perk if people subscribed using the link Dustin provided, but I don't know that it was monetary, was it? I waited until after the "contest," but before the announcment to subscribe so I'd be able to go to Fan Club Day at C4, so I don't feel like I supported Dustin or Wise in any way.
Also, for those of you cancelling, or considering cancelling, your subscriptions, does the FC even offer a refund for cancelled subs? I understand you're trying to make a point, but why cheat yourself out of $40 when, ultimately, no one at the FC is going to give a rat's derriere?
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Well looks like Im not going to Fan Club Day at Celebration 4. I was waiting for the outcome of this before I bought my stupid subscription. Now knowing Grandpa Munster gets a cut I won't be buying that ****.
How could Wise get a cut of the subscription money? I thought he got some sort of perk if people subscribed using the link Dustin provided, but I don't know that it was monetary, was it?
Yes, please elaborate!!!
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I just realized that it took double the amount of time to decide this thing than it did the 2000 presidential election.
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That is ******* retarded, folks.
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I just realized that it took double the amount of time to decide this thing than it did the 2000 presidential election.
(http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)
That is ******* retarded, folks.
Either way, the outcome is a ******bag of a president that the majority of people didn't vote for.
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I'm curious as well how Wise gets a cut... Not knocking the people who said that, I just don't think that's true is all. Not that I was aware anyway. There's no financial bonus or anything for anyone that I'm aware of. It's just a title, Dustin gets his SDCC trip paid for (I question if it wasn't anyway but I digress), and he gets some stuff that I think at least in part he's planning to donate to give-aways... Which is fine.
Like I said, I don't fault the guy his "contest" winnings and all that... Completely beside the point really. The point is how shadily this thing was handled... How childish it was treated by many people over there what with the constant front page crap, the whining when not enough people were voting to suit them, the bitchfest when it appeared that Dustin wasn't going to win...
But now, suddenly it's all good to essentially (and quite clearly) buy your win? I mean that's the kind of online nerd humor you can't pay for... Oh wait, yes you can. But it's still funny in such a douchebaggish way that it's tough to put it into words. :)
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I, personally was talking about publicity, not a financial cut.
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Ah ok, gotcha. :)
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Didn't he have links to subscription ordering when the campaign was in high gear? I thought I read sponsors give single digit "spiffs" to sponsors if customers (directed from the fan site) bought something?
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I'm curious as well how Wise gets a cut... Not knocking the people who said that, I just don't think that's true is all. Not that I was aware anyway. There's no financial bonus or anything for anyone that I'm aware of.
Mr. Wise answered directly here: WISE GETS COMMISSION (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=2008707&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=2006179&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post2008707)
Did you get your cut JJ?
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I stand corrected then... :)
God, how classless. Add to that the fact that they own Official Pix and really Dustin shouldn't have been eligible actually... It may be picking nits to some, but he's worked the OP booth routinely for them, is affiliated with them... This really is comically screwed up.
It's a shame to see the hobby so infiltrated like this to where the "average joe" doesn't have a chance of involvement in a contest like this. I don't know why they didn't just give it to Dustin as soon as he entered then. It would've saved time and aggrevation by many, many people.
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Oh I remember Jeff (or someone here) noticing that the subscription links from the campaign posts over at RS were affiliate links.
(I would have done the same thing given the same situation...)
:-X
Regardless, I think affiliates (or whatever you want to call them) should be excluded from contests like this. It's no different than employees being excluded from contests that their company throws for customers.
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So, I'm done messing with this discussion as it's just running around in circles. I have spent valuable time I did not have messing with this subject.
To those who are pissed off Dustin won: Whether you showed your cards here or not, leave now. I don't wish you to be using our resources ever again.
I await emails with your user accounts so I may close them.
No more discussion on this topic will be allowed.
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And, yes, I have also removed the thread. A thread such as this does not deserve to be retained.
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He sure took his ball and went home huh?
link on new page for reference (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2008893&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2008893)
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Philip Wise RAPED My Star Wars Web Browsing Experience :'(
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Huh. Disappointing fits, I suppose.
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(http://www.wiseacres.com/fishphilippic.jpg)
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So, I'm done messing with this discussion as it's just running around in circles. I have spent valuable time I did not have messing with this subject.
To those who are pissed off Dustin won: Whether you showed your cards here or not, leave now. I don't wish you to be using our resources ever again.
I await emails with your user accounts so I may close them.
No more discussion on this topic will be allowed.
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And, yes, I have also removed the thread. A thread such as this does not deserve to be retained.
RS, home of the Fan Club Puppet President and his master. If you don't like it, you can **** right off.
That's some ambassadorial behavior if I've ever witnessed it.
Makes me embarrassed to be a Star Wars fan.
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Philip Wise RAPED My Star Wars Web Browsing Experience :'(
I concur, this whole thing is really pissing me off(along with many other people I'm sure ;)).
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PDiddy
(http://image.com.com/tv/images/video/chappelle_making_medvid.jpg)
:-\
Is it 'cause I change my name a lot?
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(http://www.wiseacres.com/fishphilippic.jpg)
Is he wearing a TURBO DILDO t-shirt?
If so, it fits. ;)
I hope he knows not to wear white after Labor Day.
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(http://www.wiseacres.com/fishphilippic.jpg)
I hope he knows not to wear white after Labor Day.
Perhaps he's still a virgin and thus entitled to wear white?
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He sure took his ball and went home huh?
link on new page for reference (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2008893&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2008893)
What a classy individual.
And such a sexy dresser, too. Mmmmmmhmmmmmmmmm.....
John
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I have no problems with Dustin, OR him winning, he's always been fine by me and has never treated me wrong. Some may have a problem, and that's fine, we all have our personal opinions and they certainly won't all be the same on every issue.
...but yeah, I have to say that was REALLY unprofessional how ole Phil handled it.
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Is it 'cause I change my name a lot?
On second thought, maybe "PDiddy" didn't refer to me at all, but to PDiddy Wise instead.
Maybe I should stop being so damned self-centered.
Now someone go get me some breast milk from a Cambodian immigrant.
I only drink the finest breast milks.
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On second thought, maybe "PDiddy" didn't refer to me at all, but to PDiddy Wise instead.
Maybe I should stop being so damned self-centered.
Now someone go get me some breast milk from a Cambodian immigrant.
I only drink the finest breast milks.
Now you're just making me sad again that season three of Chappelle's show has 50% less Chappelle.
E...
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Well, congratulations to P Wise for making himself look like a complete ass today...what a joke.
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Well that was eloquent... ::)
Seriously, this whole thing is shady... It's worth talking about. I've said it before that I don't begrudge Dustin getting the stuff or the title even, it's just that there obviously was some shady **** going on and this whole thing wasn't "fun", it wasn't even fair for anyone without some financial backing.
It turned out to be a joke... I'm not even pissed off really, just disappointed that this is how the hobby is. That this contest became a gig you could simply buy your way into whether you were Dustin or USCWannabe... Neither one would've won this in a way I thought would've been "fun". It was a crock from the start and it's a crock at the finish. I'm still not surprised... I'm not surprised by the answer Philip gave either as he's given that answer before.
It is what it is though... So I'm not mad. Disappointed no doubt. Disappointed in the hobby, the people involved in it... It's silly. But that's life I guess. In any hobby I've ever been involved in, it's the same way. For instance re-enactments I used to do (Civil War) and there were guys in that who treated people like **** too, and took advantage of the hobby, or pushed themselves on it... It was no different and ultimately I quit because it was incredibly costly. This is the same thing just different situations and circumstances.
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Funny how the thread ended AFTER the talk of money came up (and the discrepancy between RS actions and the contest rules).
:-X
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It is what it is though... �So I'm not mad. �Disappointed no doubt. �Disappointed in the hobby, the people involved in it... �It's silly. �But that's life I guess. �In any hobby I've ever been involved in, it's the same way.
The ****'s with all the question marks?
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Hmmm, your quote ain't what I read on my post. That's different. Maybe all this has caused a massive Star Wars Community implosion? ;D
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Maybe Bill's PC sucks! :-X :D ;D
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Maybe Bill's PC sucks! :-X :D ;D
I second. All in favor?
Wait, Bill does PC tech support...WTF? Call yourself and get that **** fixed!
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It's too bad the discussion wasn't allowed to continue as people were bringing up good points on both sides.
It's Phil's website and he can do as he pleases I guess but it seems it was all too much for him.
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Well I had been a regular at rebelscum for quite a few years but after seeing what an old prick Phillip was today, I'm through with that place.
All the better really because as a 31 year old I got tired of talking to annoying children and morons who can hold a simple discussion without always being right. :P
I would imagine (hope?) this place might gain a few more intelligent scummer deserters in the near future.
I hope that old bastard loses everybody after that show of utter disgrace he pulled over this contest. If any of them have one iota of sense they'll realize his crybaby antics of locking the thread is just the ultimate proof that those of us calling him out were 100% right about him.
I know I'll never add another penny to his tight white 80's shorts by visiting his sites or spending another $2000+ through Official Pix.
Anyway, I hope I'm welcome here and if so I'll probably be chatting with many of you on the Sideshow 12" forum.
:)
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Welcome to the grown-ups table.
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Nice to have you here. :)
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Hmmm, your quote ain't what I read on my post.ďż˝ That's different. Maybe all this has caused a massive Star Wars Community implosion? ;D
For serious? I see a question mark at the beginning of just about every sentence in that post. I figured you pasted it from MS Word or something and it picked up some invisible characters. That's not what everyone else is seeing? Maybe it's a FireFox thing, and it's normal on IE?
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Confirmed - it is FireFox. Ain't that a kick in the pants? First time I've seen that problem.
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You damnable MS-avoiders. :P
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Confirmed - it is FireFox.
FireFox, it's only works in Russia! :D
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(http://www.wiseacres.com/fishphilippic.jpg)
It's hip to be square.
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Am I the only one who doesn't see what Phillip's physical style or particular choice of fishing attire has to do with anything?
I guess I probably am, but I don't think it's easy to stay on the high-ground when you're picking on him for his goofy pants instead of his ****** attitude with members of his site when confronted with anything.
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Well I had been a regular at rebelscum for quite a few years but after seeing what an old prick Phillip was today, I'm through with that place.
All the better really because as a 31 year old I got tired of talking to annoying children and morons who can hold a simple discussion without always being right. :P
I would imagine (hope?) this place might gain a few more intelligent scummer deserters in the near future.
I hope that old bastard loses everybody after that show of utter disgrace he pulled over this contest. If any of them have one iota of sense they'll realize his crybaby antics of locking the thread is just the ultimate proof that those of us calling him out were 100% right about him.
I know I'll never add another penny to his tight white 80's shorts by visiting his sites or spending another $2000+ through Official Pix.
Anyway, I hope I'm welcome here and if so I'll probably be chatting with many of you on the Sideshow 12" forum.
:)
Dooku1?
Did Philip drop the ol' ban hammer on you over at RS?
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Oh I remember Jeff (or someone here) noticing that the subscription links from the campaign posts over at RS were affiliate links.
:)
My favorite part is the fact that the "Join or renew here" link in his newspost is not a link to the Hyperspace sign-up page at the Official Site.
It's a link to the Hyperspace sign up via ShopStarWars. That way, he can use his ad referral code to make sure that he gets a cut of your $40 subscription fee for himself. Savvy marketing once again...
::)
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Dooku1?
Did Philip drop the ol' ban hammer on you over at RS?
Hahaha!
You got me! Glad to see a familar face, so to speak!
Nah, he didn't ban me as far as know, I just decided to finally leave.
I'm satisfied going out with a bang by so infuriating Phillip it made him cwy and delete the thread. :'(
He knew he was beaten and took the low road out which suited me just fine.
I was totally civil with him until he started getting so utterly condescending.
I'm just happy his true colors were shown to all of us once and for all and I hope the SW community remembers it for a long, long time....
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phil has lost the battle. i hope he loses the war someday (everyone knows what he really is and stops feeding his money-hungry attitude(
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We have an introduction area just below if anyone new wants to say hey and tell a little about themselves... It helps some of the staff out too to know who's who too. Just a thought for the new folks roaming over for whatever their reasons.
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I'm getting a good laugh out this thing either way because people are just being stupid with this which yield gems such as the following:
At least he beat that loser...
Excellent. The better person won in my opinion.
I'm so happy a true fan won.
I'm still wondering as to why Dustin is a better person and a "true fan". Is it because he's got time to kill by having fan sites? Or is it he's got a lot of money to burn on collectables? Or could it be that he had the backing of RS? ???
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What's funny is that I managed to get the last post in before Phillip deleted the thread. Did my comment put him over the edge?
I never realized how much of a pill he is, so I think I'm also going to transition (back) to Jedidefender.
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Cool, great to have a customizer of your skill over here. I'm doing the same thing as you, he really acted like a jerk today.
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I was away from my PCs all day today, so I guess I missed the fireworks. I still don't understand why everyone is so upset. Did anyone save the thread?
I mean....did someone say that Dustin cheated or something? It seemed to me like he ran a huge campaign and I never expected him to lose. Even when he was behind in votes, I expected him to pull through in the 11th hour with whatever he needed to get over the top. When the results were never announced, I figured they were just waiting to spring the news at the con.
The only question mark for me was how did the StarWars.com disqualify the other guy?
Was that ever answered in the thread, or was the whole thing just a flamefest until it got locked and deleted? Sucks I missed it all.
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I'm kinda skeptical about Dustin winning. I really could care less now, I'm just glad it's over. Dustin's OK, but I'd rather see Jeff win.
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Dustin's OK, but I'd rather see Jeff win.
If they have the contest again next year, perhaps Jeff can start running earlier and with a little more gusto. This time around, his campaign was kind of tongue in cheek as opposed to the full court press.
Of course, if they have the contest next year, it would be nice if it wasn't magazine sales that voted the person into office, but genuine VOTES.
Now that could be interesting.
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I doubt Chris buys Jeff into it. :-X
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I will admit to thinking that RS would totally buy 100 subscriptions in the zero hour to make sure Dustin won (then I thought they might give them away or something, contest stylie).....but that didn't seem to be the case. The vote ended with a pretty big gap between the two.
I think the DQ of the mysterious "USCwannabe" probably happened at StarWars.com's request, not because of any "superclout" Phil or any of the Rebelscum guys exerted.
Yes....they assisted Dustin in his campaign big time, but do you really think that Philip made some phone call and said "our boy wins or else"? I know you guys really hate him, but do you really think he's this Emperor like figure that can demand his man gets elected, "Or else"?
I just can't make the guy out to be that evil. Or that powerful. And if by some reason he IS one, the other, or both....I can't see the fan club being bullied into bending to that demand. It's all too cartoonish and far fetched IMHO.
Perhaps USC's comments in blogs that were reposted everywhere got him DQed. The stuff I saw was pretty harsh, and if he really wrote that....do they really want him as a spokesman? Even a figurehead?
Perhaps those massive magazine sales of his WERE somehow not quite on the level. The pace was staggering, especially when you almost never saw people say "I voted for USC".
Perhaps he didn't meet some superset of requirements they had after the fact. Maybe it turns out he was the wrong age, or had some other background issue.
Or, maybe it's one of the conspiracy theories:
Perhaps someone's theory about him not being a real dude (and just a way to goose the leader along, like a shill bidder on Ebay) was true. Maybe they just kept us in suspense because Comic Con is next week and that was the plan all along. To unveil Dustin, the hero to many....at the zero hour.
Perhaps someone at RS DID buy up 100 memberships at 40 bucks a pop that night at midnight, though spending 4 grand just so Dustin could win less than half that in prizes seems excessive to me. Plus, wouldn't we have seen it in the tally?
Any way you slice it.....I think any shadyness about this whole thing is the fault of StarWars.com and the fan club, not Rebelscum. Call me an apologist or whatever, but other than spamming the hell out of the front page.....I never saw Dustin do anything shady during the contest, so I can't really see him resorting to some sort of evil deeds afterwards. What could he REALLY do? Threaten to take some links off RS? Would StarWars.com really "bow" to that?
Maybe I don't know the guy, but I just can't see this being some huge scam perpetrated so he could win a trip to a convention he was already going to. It just doesn't make sense.
Then again, stranger things have happened and I've been wrong a million times before.
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Am I the only one who doesn't see what Phillip's physical style or particular choice of fishing attire has to do with anything?
I guess I probably am, but I don't think it's easy to stay on the high-ground when you're picking on him for his goofy pants instead of his ****** attitude with members of his site when confronted with anything.
I agree. His appearance has nothing to do with this except for the fact that I didn't picture him to look like THAT.
I, for one, am DONE with Rebelscum pending the completion of my outstanding deals with other Scummers. I hope I am welcome as well. :)
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It's definitely a sad day for collectors and fans of the Star Wars franchise. Like Jared mentioned, I'm embarrassed to be associated with this hobby right now, and will likely be cancelling my Hyperspace subscription as well. There's just no way I feel morally right supporting anything that has to do with businessman extraordinaire, Phillip Wise, which obviously covers his mindless lapdog Dustin.
Josh, I think you're missing a number of key points with this thing, and it looks like you missed some very valid points while you were away today as well. First and foremost now, is the fact that Dustin probably shouldn't have even been eligible for the contest based on the rules set forth (official affiliates of LFL, etc...). Obviously we all know that he works for RS and TFn, which as Phillip himself pointed out today, are both affiliates of SWS.com, and other official SW licensees, but even moreso, Dustin has worked for Official Pix on at least several occasions, and they're pretty damned affiliated at this point, most folks think. For Phillip to suggest that Dustin "only volunteers at RS/TFn and isn't even involved with Official Pix" is as much a joke as Phillip reiterating ad nauseum that the whole contest is "just for fun". What a complete ******* liar that guy is, and it's sad to watch him bury himself deeper and deeper every time he repeats it (like he did a couple more times this afternoon). Anyway, that was a very big point that the RS members were addressing, even moreso when Phillip flat-out admitted that they were affiliated, and that he was also getting a financial cut from all the subscriptions Dustin "sold" (like most of us already knew).
Obviously, the other huge question is WTF ever happend to USCwannabe? Some type of official announcement would certainly help matters, and the lack thereof just adds fuel to the fire, in that everyone's assuming even moreso that Phillip started throwing his weight around when the election results didn't go his way (as we all knew he would). Again, he's completely lied about not doing that either. What a joke.
Hell, maybe USCwannabe did cheat somehow, or didn't pass one of the background/history checks. Who knows? We'll probably never know, though pretty much all of us knew this entire scenario was a foregone conclusion as soon as we realized the Final Results were never going to get posted. Heck, I pretty much knew the moment that RS went tight-lipped on the whole matter, closing the various threads, and hiding most of the evidence of Dustin's running after he "lost". Prior to that, they were all throwing total shitfits about how crooked the whole thing was (especially Myatt). Then, all of the sudden, every last trace of Dustin's running disappeared. I have a feeling they'd already arranged the outcome way back then, hence the sudden silence, and lack of further complaining and diatribes. Yep, sure looks "un-crooked" now, no doubt. Of course Phillip totally lied again, by saying that they were just as in the dark all along as everyone else was. Heh.
Did Dustin run a better campaign? Probably. At least from what we could see publicly. Obviously everyone's already pointed out that the enormous resources available to him made for a very unfair advantage over any other candidates. Sure they did. Not necessarily their fault though. I concur that Dustin's devoted a fair amount of time, energy, and SW knowledge to get to where he is in the hobby today, so kudos to him for that. But another big thing that I take issue with is that Dustin was probably going to be down at Comic Con anyway, working for Phillip at Official Pix (on Phillip's dime too, probably, like when he went down to Dallas). Dustin's probably one of the last people who needs some freebie comped Star Wars collectibles as well. So this all expenses paid trip, with free swag, is going to someone who was probably already going to get a free trip to SDCC, and already gets plenty of goodies as it is. Instead, all this cool free stuff should've been going to someone who would REALLY appreciate it, and likely not get it otherwise, and not just take it all for granted. It's kinda like a millionaire winning the lottery, instead of a poor family who needs it 1000x more.
Furthermore, and another huge point that most people seem to be missing, is the INTENTIONS that Phillip has for his (Dustin's) Fan Club Presidency. Do you honestly think they're just going to roll over and accept the several token freebies, and honorary title and one-time Insider column, and that's it? HELL NO!!! Phillip was going to milk this thing for everything it was worth. Anyone who's saying "well, it's not like Dustin/Phillip are even getting much out of this meaningless title anyway" sure doesn't know Phillip Wise too well. He's had big plans on what he was going to do with Dustin's presidency since the day they (he) decided to run for it, no doubt at all. Anyone who suggests otherwise is absolutely kidding themselves. Hell, they were essentially bribing people with "free" $40 posters for an Insider subscription, or free front page advertising on RS just for pimping Dustin's campaign anywhere else on the net. They practically stopped posting news altogether at RS for a couple months, just to focus primarily on winning the campaign. This is big business for Phillip, and he's wanted nothing more than to have that "Fan Club President" title attached to his websites.
Which brings us to the most problematic issue of all: That an arrogant, hypocritical, demeaning, greedy, pompous businessman is taking more and more control of our hobby, when he's one of the last people who deserves it. Hell, if he hadn't completely swindled the forums away from Mike, he'd never be anywhere remotely close to where he is now to begin with! The guy's a liar, a cheat, and a completely deceitful man who has no business turning Star Wars into his business. That should be left for George Lucas. What sucks is that there's not a whole lot that the average fan or collector can do about it, aside from staying away from his sites, and goods. Of course, if you state any objections about anything over there, or about Phillip (or Dustin), he'll quickly point out that it's "his way, or the highway", and if you're lucky, he'll even throw in a nice little "get a life" comment as he boots you the hell out the door.
As for Dustin, I know some people think he's an ok, upstanding guy. Hell, I even used to think he was up until a little over a year ago. But for some of us, namely anyone associated with JediDefender, we now know otherwise. This is a guy who summarily, and inexplicably (at Phillip's request, no doubt) starting banning from RS anyone who had anything to do with this site - staff members, forum members, or otherwise. Phillip started seeing JD as a threat, so he laid down the law over there, and had Dustin personally impose it for him. Phillp's very own version of Rick McCallum, if you will. Dustin may only be the puppet, but he shares equally in much of the blame for their idiocy over there. There used to be one, large, relatively happy online collecting community, but thanks to Phillip's sterling and greedy efforts, it's now been essentially fragmented into 3 seperate pieces.
Who the hell wants a Fan Club president who doesn't allow members of another (competing) site at their own? As far as I know, Phillip and Dustin are the only ones who have ever imposed such a sanction at any collecting site online. So I'm half expecting Dustin to start banning any and all fans of Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, or any other Sci-Fi franchise or movie property from the Star Wars Fan Club membership. He (and Phillip) are just petty and stupid enough to pull some nonsense like that. Speaking of petty, ever heard of someone closing a feedback thread with 100 posts in it since "the member was banned"? I thought not. That's the kind of special treatment I get from Dustin, who has still refused to ever provide any reasoning for our bannings over there (though we're all well aware of why). Funny, but no other banned members have ever had their feedback threads closed over there. Go figure.
Anyway, the issues here are far more in depth than just "Dustin (Phillip) seems to have stolen away the victory". They probably shouldn't have ever been in the running in the first place, not to mention that they don't deserve it, don't need it, and don't represent true Star Wars fans, or the leadership thereof. This is nothing more than an arrogant, greedy businessman throwing his weight around, and his pathetically mindless puppet performing all the actions. Nothing more.
But hey, "it's all in good fun", right? ::)
- Matt
I'm just happy his true colors were shown to all of us once and for all and I hope the SW community remembers it for a long, long time....
Actually, Phillip has shown his true colors a number of times in the past few years, but most people at RS are too new to have known of most of his prior transgressions. My favorite of all time was when he spammed his entire RS membership via e-mail with some unwanted TRU midnight madness advertisement, then told everyone to shut the hell up, get a life, and move along, when they all got upset about it, and then HE proceeded to throw an equally large shitfit when one of the other collecting sites administrators sent HIM an e-mail that he felt was worthless and wasted his time. The guy is as big a hypocrite and liar as they come, no doubt.
BTW, welcome aboard to the new guys. I'm sure you'll enjoy it here (assuming you're not a fan of post-padding, spamming, trolling, immaturity, and any other number of RS attributes).
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It's definitely a sad day for collectors and fans of the Star Wars franchise. Like Jared mentioned, I'm embarrassed to be associated with this hobby right now, and will likely be cancelling my Hyperspace subscription as well. There's just no way I feel morally right supporting anything that has to do with businessman extraordinaire, Phillip Wise, which obviously covers his mindless lapdog Dustin.
Josh, I think you're missing a number of key points with this thing, and it looks like you missed some very valid points while you were away today as well. First and foremost now, is the fact that Dustin probably shouldn't have even been eligible for the contest based on the rules set forth (official affiliates of LFL, etc...). Obviously we all know that he works for RS and TFn, which as Phillip himself pointed out today, are both affiliates of SWS.com, and other official SW licensees, but even moreso, Dustin has worked for Official Pix on at least several occasions, and they're pretty damned affiliated at this point, most folks think. For Phillip to suggest that Dustin "only volunteers at RS/TFn and isn't even involved with Official Pix" is as much a joke as Phillip reiterating ad nauseum that the whole contest is "just for fun". What a complete ******* liar that guy is, and it's sad to watch him bury himself deeper and deeper every time he repeats it (like he did a couple more times this afternoon). Anyway, that was a very big point that the RS members were addressing, even moreso when Phillip flat-out admitted that they were affiliated, and that he was also getting a financial cut from all the subscriptions Dustin "sold" (like most of us already knew).
Obviously, the other huge question is WTF ever happend to USCwannabe? Some type of official announcement would certainly help matters, and the lack thereof just adds fuel to the fire, in that everyone's assuming even moreso that Phillip started throwing his weight around when the election results didn't go his way (as we all knew he would). Again, he's completely lied about not doing that either. What a joke.
Hell, maybe USCwannabe did cheat somehow, or didn't pass one of the background/history checks. Who knows? We'll probably never know, though pretty much all of us knew this entire scenario was a foregone conclusion as soon as we realized the Final Results were never going to get posted. Heck, I pretty much knew the moment that RS went tight-lipped on the whole matter, closing the various threads, and hiding most of the evidence of Dustin's running after he "lost". Prior to that, they were all throwing total shitfits about how crooked the whole thing was (especially Myatt). Then, all of the sudden, every last trace of Dustin's running disappeared. I have a feeling they'd already arranged the outcome way back then, hence the sudden silence, and lack of further complaining and diatribes. Yep, sure looks "un-crooked" now, no doubt. Of course Phillip totally lied again, by saying that they were just as in the dark all along as everyone else was. Heh.
Did Dustin run a better campaign? Probably. At least from what we could see publicly. Obviously everyone's already pointed out that the enormous resources available to him made for a very unfair advantage over any other candidates. Sure they did. Not necessarily their fault though. I concur that Dustin's devoted a fair amount of time, energy, and SW knowledge to get to where he is in the hobby today, so kudos to him for that. But another big thing that I take issue with is that Dustin was probably going to be down at Comic Con anyway, working for Phillip at Official Pix (on Phillip's dime too, probably, like when he went down to Dallas). Dustin's probably one of the last people who needs some freebie comped Star Wars collectibles as well. So this all expenses paid trip, with free swag, is going to someone who was probably already going to get a free trip to SDCC, and already gets plenty of goodies as it is. Instead, all this cool free stuff should've been going to someone who would REALLY appreciate it, and likely not get it otherwise, and not just take it all for granted. It's kinda like a millionaire winning the lottery, instead of a poor family who needs it 1000x more.
Furthermore, and another huge point that most people seem to be missing, is the INTENTIONS that Phillip has for his (Dustin's) Fan Club Presidency. Do you honestly think they're just going to roll over and accept the several token freebies, and honorary title and one-time Insider column, and that's it? HELL NO!!! Phillip was going to milk this thing for everything it was worth. Anyone who's saying "well, it's not like Dustin/Phillip are even getting much out of this meaningless title anyway" sure doesn't know Phillip Wise too well. He's had big plans on what he was going to do with Dustin's presidency since the day they (he) decided to run for it, no doubt at all. Anyone who suggests otherwise is absolutely kidding themselves. Hell, they were essentially bribing people with "free" $40 posters for an Insider subscription, or free front page advertising on RS just for pimping Dustin's campaign anywhere else on the net. They practically stopped posting news altogether at RS for a couple months, just to focus primarily on winning the campaign. This is big business for Phillip, and he's wanted nothing more than to have that "Fan Club President" title attached to his websites.
Which brings us to the most problematic issue of all: That an arrogant, hypocritical, demeaning, greedy, pompous businessman is taking more and more control of our hobby, when he's one of the last people who deserves it. Hell, if he hadn't completely swindled the forums away from Mike, he'd never be anywhere remotely close to where he is now to begin with! The guy's a liar, a cheat, and a completely deceitful man who has no business turning Star Wars into his business. That should be left for George Lucas. What sucks is that there's not a whole lot that the average fan or collector can do about it, aside from staying away from his sites, and goods. Of course, if you state any objections about anything over there, or about Phillip (or Dustin), he'll quickly point out that it's "his way, or the highway", and if you're lucky, he'll even throw in a nice little "get a life" comment as he boots you the hell out the door.
As for Dustin, I know some people think he's an ok, upstanding guy. Hell, I even used to think he was up until a little over a year ago. But for some of us, namely anyone associated with JediDefender, we now know otherwise. This is a guy who summarily, and inexplicably (at Phillip's request, no doubt) starting banning from RS anyone who had anything to do with this site - staff members, forum members, or otherwise. Phillip started seeing JD as a threat, so he laid down the law over there, and had Dustin personally impose it for him. Phillp's very own version of Rick McCallum, if you will. Dustin may only be the puppet, but he shares equally in much of the blame for their idiocy over there. There used to be one, large, relatively happy online collecting community, but thanks to Phillip's sterling and greedy efforts, it's now been essentially fragmented into 3 seperate pieces.
Who the hell wants a Fan Club president who doesn't allow members of another (competing) site at their own? As far as I know, Phillip and Dustin are the only ones who have ever imposed such a sanction at any collecting site online. So I'm half expecting Dustin to start banning any and all fans of Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, or any other Sci-Fi franchise or movie property from the Star Wars Fan Club membership. He (and Phillip) are just petty and stupid enough to pull some nonsense like that. Speaking of petty, ever heard of someone closing a feedback thread with 100 posts in it since "the member was banned"? I thought not. That's the kind of special treatment I get from Dustin, who has still refused to ever provide any reasoning for our bannings over there (though we're all well aware of why). Funny, but no other banned members have ever had their feedback threads closed over there. Go figure.
Anyway, the issues here are far more in depth than just "Dustin (Phillip) seems to have stolen away the victory". They probably shouldn't have ever been in the running in the first place, not to mention that they don't deserve it, don't need it, and don't represent true Star Wars fans, or the leadership thereof. This is nothing more than an arrogant, greedy businessman throwing his weight around, and his pathetically mindless puppet performing all the actions. Nothing more.
But hey, "it's all in good fun", right? ::)
- Matt
I'm just happy his true colors were shown to all of us once and for all and I hope the SW community remembers it for a long, long time....
Actually, Phillip has shown his true colors a number of times in the past few years, but most people at RS are too new to have known of most of his prior transgressions. My favorite of all time was when he spammed his entire RS membership via e-mail with some unwanted TRU midnight madness advertisement, then told everyone to shut the hell up, get a life, and move along, when they all got upset about it, and then HE proceeded to throw an equally large shitfit when one of the other collecting sites administrators sent HIM an e-mail that he felt was worthless and wasted his time. The guy is as big a hypocrite and liar as they come, no doubt.
BTW, welcome aboard to the new guys. I'm sure you'll enjoy it here (assuming you're not a fan of post-padding, spamming, trolling, immaturity, and any other number of RS attributes).
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Somehow it seems like this picture was taken more in the interest of irony than of anything genuine. . .
(http://www.jedidefender.com/cberry/images/familyhug.jpg)
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Anyway, I hope I'm welcome here and if so I'll probably be chatting with many of you on the Sideshow 12" forum.
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Hope to see you there!
You'll find the crowd here is pretty cool (and the staff is down to earth).
It's a lot easier to keep up on threads too because we don't get all the newbies starting non-essential (countless) threads on remedial topics.
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It's too bad the discussion wasn't allowed to continue as people were bringing up good points on both sides.
It's Phil's website and he can do as he pleases I guess but it seems it was all too much for him.
This incident sums up in a tidy package why I don't consider RS to be worht my time.
When do we ever see a thread deleted here or at GH? Threads may be locked, but the topics are still there for everyone to read.
RS is run like a communist nation where any dissent is squashed. Ridiculous.
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This was the final tally, as of May 15th...
Rank Screen Name Bounties
1. uscwannabe - 287
2. dustin@rebelscum.com - 183
3. mkDCSWCC - 11
4. fanostarwars - 3
5. BobSkywalker81 - 2
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Funny how the thread ended AFTER the talk of money came up (and the discrepancy between RS actions and the contest rules).
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Thank you, thank you very much! ;D
I have been on RS for over a year now. And while I agree that Mr. Wise is very rude whenever he speaks to his fellow Scummers, his deleteing old threads is really annoying. It's just "damage control". If a thread is out-of-hand, then lock it down. There is absolutely no reason to delete a thread unless you don't want people to see what you wrote or how you acted. I'm proud that I got him to admit he is getting a monetary kickback from SWS.com. And I am sure he regrets posting it. Good thing we got a pic of his posting on here for everybody to see.
The few times I have actually seen him post on the forums, he is always rude and condescending. Does he not get the simple fact that he is being a jackass to the very people that have made RS what it is today? You simply do not bite the hand that feeds you......unless you can delete your "track record".
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JediMAC, you speak the truth...I agree 100% with you. While I'm relatively new to the community, I have a greater understanding about what an ass Phillip Wise is and a thorn in the side of a great hobby.
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Hey JediMAC, don't let anybody sour you on a hobby you enjoy. There will always be people you run into that you can't stand who weild power and influence you think they don't deserve. But you can't allow them to ruin your fun. Fight through that ****. I myself have dealt with some real pricks in various aspects of this and other hobbies, but I've never felt that they somehow reflect badly on me, or felt motivated to abandon something just because they were associated with it. I just do my best to just make sure the things I own and control reflect well on me and enhance my own enjoyment and the enjoyment of people I care about.
Remember that the best revenge is living well.
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Don't get down on the hobby guys... enjoy it for all it's worth and all the good people that are still out there. I don't worry about these type of things, I just brush them off my shoulder and have fun with this hobby.
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Remember that the best revenge is living well.
Dave Quackenbush says that failure... is the best revenge.
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I think JediMAC summed up what most of us posted and the general attitude over there very nicely.
I don't know if there's any conspiracy elements involved (although I never had the picture of Phillip that I do now) but more so just that Dustin or anyone involved with ANY business affiliations with LFL should not have been elligible to run.
All I asked Phillip to do was simply admit that Dustin had a tremendously unfair advantage over the "regular" fan who doesn't have the luxury of having rebelscum and TFN cram his campaign down our throats for months on end and you saw the condescending spin doctoring I got thrown back my way.
He so laughably claimed it was "all in fun" but the whole thing was just used by Phillip to be another feather in his hat. I'm dissapointed SW.com did not disqualify anyone with present or past ties to LFL licensed companies.
Oh well, I just hope when Dustin is introduced at SDCC like some conquering hero, he is met with jeers and boos. I could care less about the "presidency" title but I am sad that some fan who could have had the opportunity of a lifetime had it snatched away by someone who has already had more cool experiences as a SW fan than most of us will ever get.
Just really, really sad and shameful in my opinion.
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But another big thing that I take issue with is that Dustin was probably going to be down at Comic Con anyway, working for Phillip at Official Pix (on Phillip's dime too, probably, like when he went down to Dallas). Dustin's probably one of the last people who needs some freebie comped Star Wars collectibles as well. So this all expenses paid trip, with free swag, is going to someone who was probably already going to get a free trip to SDCC, and already gets plenty of goodies as it is. Instead, all this cool free stuff should've been going to someone who would REALLY appreciate it, and likely not get it otherwise, and not just take it all for granted. It's kinda like a millionaire winning the lottery, instead of a poor family who needs it 1000x more.
Everyone keeps missing an even larger point on this item. Yes, there were probably fans with a bigger need for the trip than Dustin, but to me - and to Dustin - it doesn't matter one iota who is paying for his trip...it was free to him anyway. The true beneficiary of the cost savings on the trip is Phillip Wise. He can scoff and say that he gets nothing but a good time out of all of this, but lets do some quickie math:
180ish subs at a $2 spiff apiece = $360
waiver of airfare that he would have paid for D anyway = $500ish
waiver of hotel that he would have paid for D anyway = $600ish
waiver of con pass that he would have paid for D anyway = $65
I'm not sure if the prize covers meals, so lets leave that out...we're already up to $1525ish kicked right back into Uncle Phil's pocket just by having Dustin win. Rumor is, too, that some of the prize swag will be given away as prizes on Scum...don't be fooled into thinking of that as some kind of benevolence. Prize giveaways = traffic and traffic = dollars.
As for Dustin, I know some people think he's an ok, upstanding guy. Hell, I even used to think he was up until a little over a year ago. But for some of us, namely anyone associated with JediDefender, we now know otherwise. This is a guy who summarily, and inexplicably (at Phillip's request, no doubt) starting banning from RS anyone who had anything to do with this site - staff members, forum members, or otherwise. Phillip started seeing JD as a threat, so he laid down the law over there, and had Dustin personally impose it for him. Phillp's very own version of Rick McCallum, if you will. Dustin may only be the puppet, but he shares equally in much of the blame for their idiocy over there. There used to be one, large, relatively happy online collecting community, but thanks to Phillip's sterling and greedy efforts, it's now been essentially fragmented into 3 seperate pieces.
He's been an assbag on any dealings I've had with him too. I pmed him a question after a thread of mine had been deleted right after the TRU spamfest and the best answer I could get was "because I said so." Dustin is the prime reason for me pulling out of Scum long ago.
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So, wait. If uscwannabe was officially DQ'ed by the Fan Club, then does that mean that I really finished 3rd?
And if I finished third, does that mean I get to be Treasurer of Hyperspace: The Official Star Wars Fan Club or something?
If something should happen to those other two guys, I will gladly be prepared to perform my duties as second runner-up and take the helm as President. ;)
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As to why USC hasn't said anything.....all I'm gonna say is sometimes, when you are going into legal action, your lawyers advise you not to speak about the case ANYWHERE. That's not to say he is bringing a suit against them, I'm just saying that's what happens when you file a suit...
And I'm wondering when Dustin's gonna start running the giveaways for the prizes, as he promised to do if he won. Comic con is week after next, so if he's giving that trip away, it's going to have to be soon....If he doesn't, I'm sure alot of people are going to throw a fit over that.....
Sallah
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The rules were pretty clear on that...the prize package is non-transferrable.
Now there's nothing they can really do to keep him from giving away the collectibles, but he wouldn't be able to transfer the travel package.
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I know I'm beating a dead horse here but it really irks me that USC was DQ'd for whatever reason, yet an offical licensee of LFL (or employee of in Dustin's case) can be eligible!
If you're going to single one person out then show due diligence and enforce the rules on everyone!
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The true beneficiary of the cost savings on the trip is Phillip Wise.
(snip)
...we're already up to $1525ish kicked right back into Uncle Phil's pocket just by having Dustin win.
I doubt that the $1500 or so Philip may have saved by Dustin "winning" the trip to SDCC is much of a factor at all. Let's not forget that Philip flew Dustin down to Dallas for some crappy toy show so Dustin could give away $40 Official Pix prints in exchange for Hyperspace memberships. In the short-term, that was a money-losing weekend.
I think the real value out of all of this is the nerd cred that Philip will get from being able to say that his number two guy is president of the Fan Club for the next year.
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Let's not forget that Philip flew Dustin down to Dallas for some crappy toy show so Dustin could give away $40 Official Pix prints in exchange for Hyperspace memberships.
And lets not forget Dude that keeping wildlife, um... an amphibious rodent, for... um, ya know domestic... within the city... that ain't legal either.
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Let's not forget that Philip flew Dustin down to Dallas for some crappy toy show so Dustin could give away $40 Official Pix prints in exchange for Hyperspace memberships.
And lets not forget Dude that keeping wildlife, um... an amphibious rodent, for... um, ya know domestic... within the city... that ain't legal either.
William Shatner, is it you?
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I doubt that the $1500 or so Philip may have saved by Dustin "winning" the trip to SDCC is much of a factor at all. Let's not forget that Philip flew Dustin down to Dallas for some crappy toy show so Dustin could give away $40 Official Pix prints in exchange for Hyperspace memberships. In the short-term, that was a money-losing weekend.
If PW did in fact purchase the ticket for Dustin, and Dustin handed out Official Pix merch., couldn't PW just write it all off (hotel, ticket and show pass) as a promotion expense?
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If he's an employee, yes. If he's a volunteer, probably.
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Yakfsace.com has taken the very public step in questioning this outcome of the election on their front page this afternoon.
It's good to see another major collecting website question the offical story. I hope other sites follow their lead.
I think the erasing of the discussion at rebelscum has really kicked things up another notch.
RS was better off just locking it instead of the old clean slate ,"never happened" school of historical record.
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Yakfsace.com has taken the very public step in questioning this outcome of the election on their front page this afternoon.
It's good to see another major collecting website question the offical story. I hope other sites follow their lead...
Good for Mark for bringing it up publicly. I was contemplating doing that here as well, but ultimately passed on the idea (for now). Unfortunately, even if/when the Fan Club does attempt to explain what happened, I doubt many folks will actually believe them (much like Phillip's usual ridiculous and insulting attempts at spin control).
I do find it highly amusing that Dustin is now unable to even make a post over in the RS forums about his victory, to thank those who helped him finish in a distant second first place. Heh.
Big thanks to Richard and Jayson as well, for pointing out even more money going into (being saved by) Phillip's pocket. Hadn't even thought about those things... It's also an interesting potential conflict to point out that the prizes can't be transferred. I would think that should include giveaways as well, since "transfer" doesn't necessarily have to mean physical money was involved. After all, if Dustin wasn't interested in the actual prizes, what was the point of his running? Oh wait, I remember now... ::)
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Anybody else notice that the photoshopped picture of his victory celebration appears to be using Nixon's body? Is this to suggest that he'll be resigning in disgrace, too?
(http://www.collectinghq.com/im/0007610.jpg)
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Well he does have the same size nose.
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OK guys, I hate to step in but I'm going to have to ask that the insults and stuff cease at this point... Are people pissed off? Obviously. Was there shady things went on? I believe so.
Personal insults though on people's physical appearance and such is crossing the line at this point, and we don't let that go here whether they're members or not. Be pissed all you want, cite the how's and why's, but lay off the personal attacks please.
Keep this to the topic at hand, and nothing more. The other things have gotten completely out of hand I'm afraid, and I'd hate to have to lock this thread considering you can't openly discuss the matter over there...
Keep it civil guys... This is crossing the line of simple anger at the situation and getting into the realm of spite.
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Matt,
You made some excellent points in your response...it definitely puts this whole fiasco into perspective.
Josh,
I don't think you quite grasp how much PW is turning our hobby into a money making franchise for himself. I'm not begrudging him the opportunity to make money....I just do not like his tactics. It's like he doesn't respect the fans of SW or the average joe collector and just sees all of us as a way for him to make money. He pushes everyone in the props forums to use the RS link to MR whenever they make a purchase, he makes money off of all the transactions that are made at MR, SWShop, EE(?) that are linked from TF.N or RS....it may not seem like much, but it sure adds up over time.
He's ruined a great online forum when they were merged from BHC...with the spam e-mails and the bannings of people who disagree with him. Although I wasn't actually banned, I hate the facgt that he decided to just delete posts of mine that were critical of him and the RS staff that were not at all rude or inaccurate.
I would much rather some kid who enjoys the movies, buys star wars figures and just loves collecting won the FC presidency that someone who probably shouldn't have even been allowed to run. The way this has all been handled by PW and RS ingeneral is deplorable. I hope this is the straw that breaks the camel's back over there and we finally see the mas exodus of quality posters over at the RS forums and he's left with the Mr Kenobi's, GNT's, Lady Jaye's and others of their ilk....let them stay there while JD and GH gets a nice boost to their respective communities.
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I don't have the exact quote as I never thought to save it, but does anyone have the bit from the article on "Lord of the Rings" merchandising and the LOTR online community where Wise, in reference to the money-making potential of SW vs. the money-making potential of LOTR, said something like, he "backed the wrong franchise?"
That comment, more than anything else, said everything I ever needed to know about where his interest in SW stands.
And lest we forget his hostile takeover/disclosure of personal information/mass firing of the TFN forum moderators a few years ago.
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And lest we forget his hostile takeover/disclosure of personal information/mass firing of the TFN forum moderators a few years ago.
Yeah, I meant to mention that one as well Michael. Bloody brilliant when Phillip steps in to TFn and suddenly starts demanding all of the personal information from his entire TFn staff and moderating crew, with absolutely no reason given to them whatsoever as to why he wanted/needed it all. It wasn't until he fired half of them for not divulging to him ALL of their private, personal information (which I believe he said he'd be storing online somewhere, IIRC), that he finally had to come out and address yet another forum community of his that was VERY irate wth him (as usual), by telling them something to the effect of TFn was a business, and as it's owner, he had to have every right to request every last detail on everyone that "worked" for him there.
Funny that now he's downplaying folks (Dustin's) involvement with the various sites, saying that they're "just volunteers". It sure seemed to be a matter of life and death to Phillip a few years ago when the whole TFn fiasco blew up in his face, and his "employees" wouldn't bow down to his every whim. Again, not one shred of appreciation or consideration to numerous people that were busting their humps for the man. But at least one good thing came out of it all (since the RS crew had to give their personal info to him as well), we got to find out who GREGG was! 8)
In the end, it's really all about a person's character. I think that's why so many collectors and fans are upset about this latest turn of events. Who knows, perhaps USCwannabe's character may not have been too great (maybe, according to Dustin's biased friends and supporters), but instead, you now have a (puppet) Fan Club President who is a petty, spiteful, and arrogant jerk to anyone who disagrees with him or his boss, or that might (god forbid) be involved with a site other than his own. Then, to top it off, the puppetmaster who's pulling the strings is basically the biggest cancer in the entire collecting community (not that he's actually a part of the "community", per se). A greedy, pompous, self-righteous, demeaning businessman who's more than happy to **** all over the fans, and his own members, if it'll somehow put dollars in his pocket, and/or keep them from (deservedly) verbally ripping him to shreds. The man's been proven time and time again to be a habitual liar, a deceitful cheat, a hypocrite, and an abusive, condescending "leader" in our hobby, who'll cover his tracks and delete his comments or various thread(s) at the drop of a hat if it'll somehow save him some face and save his sites from further embarrassment or furor. Yet this is the man Star Wars fans and collectors continue to push further and further to the top of our beloved hobby. I just don't get it...
If these guys were actually decent fellas, who were in this as fans, and friends with the overall community, and as generally respectable collectors, it'd be a totally different ballgame, and most of us wouldn't have a gripe right now. But that's obviously not the case, now is it...?
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In the end, it's really all about a person's character. I think that's why so many collectors and fans are upset about this latest turn of events. Who knows, perhaps USCwannabe's character may not have been too great (maybe, according to Dustin's biased friends and supporters)...
Matt, thanks for doing a great job of portraying the events with an even keel. I think you're doing a fine job of elucidating the real nature of the problem as most people view it. I don't get much into the whole RS debate really. A while back I decided to mostly leave there because I couldn't tolerate the excess of juvenile commentary that drowned out the good stuff. Volume simply wasn't enough.
But the above quote really hits a chord with me. In this day and age, unsupported innuendo is so easy to disperse and sell to people as truth. I see it in so many different forms and to see what may well be the same slur tactics in a contest for Fan Club President (aka Lord of the Geeks) is quite simply surreal. One can only hope that wasn't a factor in the decision as to who won and who lost, certainly not without some serious efforts to validate those rumors.
I've not seen all the comments regarding USCwannabe that are negative and nor do I particularly care too. I guess I'm just naive and would like to believe the contest was won fairly. It's troublesome to see that the contest was seemingly out of reach for Dustin, followed by silence from all parties and then with no explanation Dustin wins. That's just a little too curious for my blood.
And just in case anyone's wondering, I'm still registered at RS. I've never been banned there in spite of a somewhat obvious association with JD. I've never had a run in with Dustin and I even was one of the winners of Scum's 5 year anniversary giveaway. I just tired of the crap on the boards is all.
Anyway, sometimes you feel the need to ramble, so I thought I'd do that and say thanks to butthead Colman as well.
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I predict we'll never hear anything from USC, because I expect LFL game him some sort of settlement in exchange for his silence when they decided to disqualify him.
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Anybody else notice that the photoshopped picture of his victory celebration appears to be using Nixon's body? Is this to suggest that he'll be resigning in disgrace, too?
(http://www.collectinghq.com/im/0007610.jpg)
lmao!
:)
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I predict we'll never hear anything from USC, because I expect LFL game him some sort of settlement in exchange for his silence when they decided to disqualify him.
Without saying anything more, I can almost promise that we'll be hearing from USC at some point.
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Oh Reeee-eeee-eeee-eeeealy?
This gets more interesting by the minute.
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I predict we'll never hear anything from USC, because I expect LFL game him some sort of settlement in exchange for his silence when they decided to disqualify him.
Not true in either respect, actually.
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Oh Reeee-eeee-eeee-eeeealy?
(http://tinypic.com/8whxf6.jpg)
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O'Reilly?
(http://www.courttv.com/graphics/photos/trials/vandam/inside/offlede/o'reilly200w182h_insidesmall_091902.jpg)
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Come on guys... you've obviously talked to the guy. Spill the beans!!
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I haven't talked to him. I've just heard a rumor that I don't care to repeat.
I shouldn't have said anything.
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"I know things, but I'm gonna be vague as ****, just in case I'm wrong, na na na."
/ Swani
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Lol... ;D
I wish I knew where to read these... rumors...
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I'm as in the dark on this one as anyone and I work with these bastards.
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(http://files.terrbear.org/files/orly.jpg)
:P
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I wish I knew where to read these... rumors...
Me too.
>:(
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When it comes to sneaky
know-all bastards in the Staff, I could think of a few places worse than JD.
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::)
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It's funny...I just Google'd uscwannabe and came up with some mentions of this debacle on a bunch of other non-SW sites. It's entertaining to see how many people not involved with this community (meaning the trio of RS/JD/GH) that think Wise is a snivelling ****sucker. :)
John
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Good stuff. Thanks for the tip there, John.
I like this "Google fight" (http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=dustin@rebelscum.com&word2=uscwannabe) they've got going on. I wonder if Phillip can find a way to tweak the results of this landslide loss for Dustin as well...? :P
Granted, a lot of the "uscwannabe" hits are related to other folks who've also used that word/name around the net, due to liking, or wanting to attend, the same school as Thomas. Amusing nonetheless.
The LOTR forum discussion on the bogus results was pretty interesting as well.
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When it comes to sneaky know-all bastards in the Staff, I could think of a few places worse than JD.
Totally. IHOP. It would suck to work there. Worse than the Mos Eisley cantina.
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Lol... ;D
I wish I knew where to read these... rumors...
No you don't. Trust me.
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When it comes to sneaky know-all bastards in the Staff, I could think of a few places worse than JD.
Totally. IHOP. It would suck to work there. Worse than the Mos Eisley cantina.
Come on. We all know there is no place worse than Wattos.
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Man, in the excitement of all the bull**** that just unfolded, we all forgot to mention one of Phillip's other greatest quotes/moments, which came early on in this election, when he chided the RS readers in a "news report" on Rebelscum's main page for not supporting Dustin more, and said he was "underwhelmed" by the subscriptions (votes) for Dustin to date. God, that was a classic one there! 8)
BTW, it turns out that Dustin has actually known for over 2 weeks now that he'd won the election. Huh. Yet another big fat lie from Phillip, I guess... What a tool.
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I hope USCwannabe shows up at SDCC and has the chance to give us his thoughts on what has occured.
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When it comes to sneaky know-all bastards in the Staff, I could think of a few places worse than JD.
Totally. IHOP. It would suck to work there. Worse than the Mos Eisley cantina.
Come on. We all know there is no place worse than Wattos.
Maybe you're right. Nothing could be worse than Wattos and Wuhers.
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Maybe they don't serve droids, but its obvious Wuher's is overrun with children. At least at Watto's its mostly grumpy and grimy old men.
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Maybe they don't serve droids, but its obvious Wuher's is overrun with children. At least at Watto's its mostly grumpy and grimy old men.
"Wuher's Child Day Care"
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Maybe you're right. Nothing could be worse than Wattos and Wuhers.
Wuher's is way worse than Watto's and that's the end of it.
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So is anyone going to Comic Con wearing USC clothes. I hate the school but might get something to wear. This whole thing was blown out of control by PW, when he closed that thread. Since he did that we see that once again if he doesn't get what he wants he will close all discussion about it. Hopefully someone saved the thread and maybe someothers would send it to LFL or other offical people in this contest.
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So is anyone going to Comic Con wearing USC clothes.
I stopped at an athletic lettering place today on the way home from work and they are printing a shirt for me, which they assure me will be ready by Tuesday.
On the front it will read: I voted for Willrow Hood...
& on the back: ...and USCwannabe
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Classic. Can't wait to see (and photograph) that one Roger! We should've had you make more of 'em to pass around... 8)
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So is anyone going to Comic Con wearing USC clothes.
I stopped at an athletic lettering place today on the way home from work and they are printing a shirt for me, which they assure me will be ready by Tuesday.
On the front it will read: I voted for Willrow Hood...
& on the back: ...and USCwannabe
Well, you're not going to get your pic on SW.com's SDCC coverage now are you?
;)
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I stopped at an athletic lettering place today on the way home from work and they are printing a shirt for me, which they assure me will be ready by Tuesday.
On the front it will read: I voted for Willrow Hood...
& on the back: ...and USCwannabe
Well, you're not going to get your pic on SW.com's SDCC coverage now are you? ;)
I actually did a couple years ago! No idea where that shot is now, but Bill Cable would know, since I was wearing a shirt he and Isaac designed (which is what they were taking the picture of).
As for Roger's shirt, it'll still get plenty of exposure in our's and GH's coverage, so that should be just as good... 8)
Hopefully we can get a pretty decent protest organized down at SDCC, to let IDG know that what they've done is wrong - whether it was allowing Phillip to somehow get the results reversed, or whether it's just IDG not explaining whatsoever how said "unofficial results" were so far out of whack, and why it took so long to figure things out. Regardless, Phillip and Dustin should have nothing to with the Presidency, as they don't represent "the people" one bit.
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So is anyone going to Comic Con wearing USC clothes.
I stopped at an athletic lettering place today on the way home from work and they are printing a shirt for me, which they assure me will be ready by Tuesday.
On the front it will read: I voted for Willrow Hood...
& on the back: ...and USCwannabe
Well, you're not going to get your pic on SW.com's SDCC coverage now are you?
;)
Yeah, it's a shame the hyperspace webcam won't be set up this year. :)
I'm planning to wear the shirt on Friday. And btw, I did vote for W.H., but *shhhhh* I refused to vote in that farcical FC President thing. ;)
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Today I recieved a newsletter from Cloud City Collectibles with a huge RS ad at the bottom....I unsubscribed and sent the following comment to their sales department:
Due to the recent actions of a webmaster of a site you support, I have unsubscribed from your newsletter. I will not give any business or potential business to sites that advertises and supports Rebelscum.com, where recently real Star Wars fans were ridiculed and denigrated by it's webmaster and host, who then censored and erased his own posts...
I urge everyone to do the same...to any site that supports that site and it's greedy webmaster-bater....
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You probably had their attention until the webmaster-bater part.
A clever pun no doubt, but not something that's going to get you taken seriously.
This whole thing is amazing... but given the way that Phillip has spoken to members when he's been under the microscope in the past, it's not at all suprising that he would blow up like that and then erase it all when the repremand didn't have its intended effect.
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THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY NEEDS TO BE RESTORED AND REMASTERED.
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Stay on topic...
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Hopefully we can get a pretty decent protest organized down at SDCC, to let IDG know that what they've done is wrong - whether it was allowing Phillip to somehow get the results reversed, or whether it's just IDG not explaining whatsoever how said "unofficial results" were so far out of whack, and why it took so long to figure things out. Regardless, Phillip and Dustin should have nothing to with the Presidency, as they don't represent "the people" one b
So, I had asked this in the RS thread that got deleted, but I was curious if any of the folks who are up in arms about Dustin winning are actually going to the Star Wars panel to stand up and say so when they announce him. T-shirts and organized protest? Man...I wish I was going, if only for this panel. If you guys actually react when he walks out, that's going to be a sight to see.
Personally, I still don't think this is nearly as big a deal as people are making it out to be, and if anyone's to blame for a "conspiracy", it's Starwars.com, not Dustin or Philip. Ultimately, they chose the guy.
That being said, I still hope you set your digital cameras to record video so that we can all see what goes down. I'm sure it'll be a lot more exciting than the announcements about the newest tweak to the holy trilogy. ;D
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All I ask, is please, no lameass rhyming chants.
I'm typing up a somewhat lengthy rant about this entire event, so stay tuned for that... *sigh*... I think I may wait until after a few things occur, before I say too much.
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What day is he gonna be at SDCC?
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Personally, I still don't think this is nearly as big a deal as people are making it out to be, and if anyone's to blame for a "conspiracy", it's Starwars.com, not Dustin or Philip. Ultimately, they chose the guy.
With how much influence and innuendo peddled by the RS presidential camp? Where'd the rumors about USC come from? Smear campaign or truth? All that bitching prior to the contest deadline about everything and suddenly the "good guys" win?
Riiiiiiiiight. Got any bridges to sell Josh?
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With how much influence and innuendo peddled by the RS presidential camp?
I never said Philip didn't help Dustin get elected. Rebelscum pimped Dustin every day like a 2 dollar hooker. I guess the big difference between me and the people complaining is I don't see how that's a crime. The site he's worked at for years backed his campaign. No big shocker there.
Where'd the rumors about USC come from? Smear campaign or truth?
As far as I saw, they came from people on various Star Wars forums who simply posted links directly to things USC wrote (and that he later admitted he wrote on those radio interviews). No conspiracy there, but I know when I read that stuff....I didn't particularly care much for the guy. I wondered after listening to him how he got so many people to vote for him. The only 2 explanations that seemed reasonable were he was buying votes himself, or people who were sick of the Dustin campaign were throwing votes his way.
All that bitching prior to the contest deadline about everything and suddenly the "good guys" win?
The fact that Philip and Dave bitched about Dustin not being ahead seemed like a brief bit of honesty from those guys. I've rarely seen the staff over there (save a few moderators) speak their minds blatantly like that, so when they bitched about Dustin being behind, I thought it was funny. Then again.....I also thought at that point it was lame, because they were preaching "this is all for fun" in one sentence and "This is crap" with the next.
Again...that's not conspiracy, that's just a few guys being up front about how they're pissed they're not winning. Scroll page to the first few pages of this thread. Lots of honesty there too. ;D
Riiiiiiiiight. Got any bridges to sell Josh?
I don't see how I'm trying to sell anything. I'm simply saying I don't buy into the whole "Philip is the mastermind behind this whole thing" theory. If he somehow bent the will of StarWars.com and got them to reverse some public and obvious "election" results, then that guy has clout like I never knew about.
However, the whole "occams razor" thing says the easiest solution is probably the solution. I'd wager StarWarsShop DQ'd the other guy because of something he said, or something he did.
I'd love to know what that was.
But for the record, yes....if Dustin and Philip somehow blackmailed StarWars.com and Lucasfilm into reversing an election, and somehow that gets discovered.....I will join everyone in being completely floored.
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It's not blackmail, it's his business and he will run it how he wants and for all it is worth. He doesn't care what people think or what is moral. Money is clout.
I still don't see how people can find it within themselves to defend that site knowing all the bull**** that goes on there. It is one big slap in the face.
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What day is he gonna be at SDCC?
Should be friday.
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I myself have never found any of these supposed statements made by USC, just Dustin's crew saying that he said them on myspace, etc. The only thing I can find is his blog on starwars.com.
Philip Wise is just making himself look bad with his on comments. Technically, Dustin violated the rules with all his affiliations and the fact he has worked for officialpix. It doesn't appear that USC had any vote for me links that got someone $2 a pop. I think all the DLR people just don't want to believe that someone could actually beat him. I was rooting for USC (actually rooting for Jeff first, but unfortunately that was a lost cause) solely based on the fact that I couldn't stand seeing DLR on every single SW site known to man...it just got way too annoying.
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I never said Philip didn't help Dustin get elected. Rebelscum pimped Dustin every day like a 2 dollar hooker. I guess the big difference between me and the people complaining is I don't see how that's a crime. The site he's worked at for years backed his campaign. No big shocker there.
In the national political arena the little guy has no chance, and I consider that somewhat of a crime... only the well connected have any prayer of getting into the race - to represent the people who aren't well connected, whether they're the best for the job or not.
This was a great example, even if it was a microcosm) of that.
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Even though I find shouting funny (and one of the things I look forward to most in JD's reports from ComicCon is Matt laying into someone during one of the panels), how about getting an organized "back turning" going when the Dustin Puppet comes out on stage? I gather that it's more than just JD that is upset about his "winning", but I'm sure it would be a funny image to have the majority of the SW internet community who knows this is a bull**** uniformly turn their backs on him when he enters the room.
Or someone can sneak in and cut the strings that Wise uses to control him and watch him fall to the floor. Either way.
And notice how I didn't make the obvious "hand up the ass" joke in terms of puppeteering. Or maybe I just did. :)
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tee hee.
you said ass.
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I don't believe this is Thomas Costabile ;D
http://www.ratemybody.com/memberDirectory/lp/..%5Cus%5CUSCWannaBe_65227.html
Robert
www.behindthetoys.com (http://www.behindthetoys.com)
LEAD EDITOR
BLACK S. U. N.
"Don't give me excuses, give me results"!
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I don't believe this is Thomas Costabile ;D
http://www.ratemybody.com/memberDirectory/lp/..%5Cus%5CUSCWannaBe_65227.html
Couldn't be. If that was USCwannabe, all she would have had to do was show that picture and she'd have won by 5,000 votes.
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I don't believe this is Thomas Costabile ;D
http://www.ratemybody.com/memberDirectory/lp/..%5Cus%5CUSCWannaBe_65227.html
Couldn't be. If that was USCwannabe, all she would have had to do was show that picture and she'd have won by 5,000 votes.
Actually, 4,999 votes. She wouldn't have gotten my vote :P
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Hey all. I just discovered your discussion about this here. I was one of the people shut down by Phil on that thread at Rebelscum. Indeed it was right after I nailed him down on the issue of money referrals and the fact that rebelscum calls itself an "affiliate" of starwarshop.com. And that as a person who distributes promotional material for IDG, Dustin is clearly ineligible to participate in the contest according to the rules as written. We've been talking about it over on yakface (http://cgi.x-lentertainment.com/yak1/viewtopic.php?t=347&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20). There's still hope that IDG can be made aware of this and everyone's distaste for these results. I'm thinking that an email/phone campaign is gonna begin pretty soon. So, stay tuned.
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I will first freely admit that DLR is a frind of mine so thats out in the open I don't care anything about P. Wise but I don't diss him for being a sucess on the web, that said, just who are you theottomanguy I'm allways lurking on a lot of forums and you only seem to have come into this world and regestered on a whole lot of forum on july 10th and 11th 2006 trying to stir all this up? for the most part alot of people I have seen didn't really care all the much that DLR won, some were desidedly unhappy like here at JD (but theres a long history behind that) but you appeared out nowere and started running around and stiring things up for no apperant reason. I find it hard to belive that your just this good semeritain whos running around trying to right this precived wrong. So whats in it for you? I have found in this world that No one goes to this much trouble without something to gain.
I think this is a very valid question to answer that alot of people should have asked befor joining this crusade of yours
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I myself have never found any of these supposed statements made by USC, just Dustin's crew saying that he said them on myspace, etc. The only thing I can find is his blog on starwars.com.
The direct quotes were posted in Dustin's campaign thread and the USCwannabe thread at RS. Then that Star Wars internet radio show (I forget what the name is) interviewed both candidates, and the USCWannabe guy explained why he told everyone to get a life. I listened to the whole thing and he came across really poorly. It's not propaganda, it's straight from the horses's mouth (or the horses's ass). That guy told everyone to get a life, cussed out anyone who had a problem with him....and seemed like he wanted to win the election so he could get some movie industry contacts.
Great for him, but it didn't endear him to me much. I'm not saying Dustin's underlying reasons were that much better, but ultimately...yes....I think he deserved to win more. Sue me.
In the national political arena the little guy has no chance, and I consider that somewhat of a crime... only the well connected have any prayer of getting into the race - to represent the people who aren't well connected, whether they're the best for the job or not.
I absolutely agree, however...this was never an election. It was a magazine sales drive, and whoever sold the most subscriptions won. It wasn't based on merit, speeches, issues, or anything. It was how many people you could get to buy something.
Dustin did that quite well.....and for the life of me, I have no idea how USCwannabe even competed with the juggernaut of resources behind Dustin. The real issue here is it looks like he sold more magazines than Dustin, yet somehow got himself disqualified from winning the prize.
How did he cheat?
What did he do?
I REALLY want to know.
I still don't see how people can find it within themselves to defend that site knowing all the bull**** that goes on there. It is one big slap in the face.
It's just never been a personal thing for me. They've never done me wrong. Yes, they've banned some of my friends and I think those actions suck (I also think the community at large is worse off for that), but think of Rebelscum as a restaurant. In fact, think of them as the infamous "Soup Kitchen" restaurant in New York.
Several of you guys once agreed that they had the best soup in town. You used to go there every week. Now, some folks either broke the rules in the soup store or pissed off the Soup Nazi, and got themselves banned. Yeah, it sucks cause you're my friends....but darnit, I still want my jambalaya.
As soon as there's another site that matches the resources of RS, I'll abandon that place and go where my friends all went....but it just hasn't happened, so I just can't join the hater brigade.
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Then that Star Wars internet radio show (I forget what the name is) interviewed both candidates, and the USCWannabe guy explained why he told everyone to get a life. I listened to the whole thing and he came across really poorly. It's not propaganda, it's straight from the horses's mouth (or the horses's ass). That guy told everyone to get a life, cussed out anyone who had a problem with him....and seemed like he wanted to win the election so he could get some movie industry contacts.
I'm confused, are you talking about USCwannabe telling people off on the radio show or Philip doing so on his forums with regularity? :P ;) The whole get a life quote is seemingly so popular in the Star Wars world.
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... I find it hard to belive that your just this good semeritain whos running around trying to right this precived wrong. So whats in it for you? I have found in this world that No one goes to this much trouble without something to gain.
I think this is a very valid question to answer that alot of people should have asked befor joining this crusade of yours
Well, right now, it doesn't feel like anyone's much "joined a crusade". I don't see anyone really doing much of anything but discussing it. It is valid for you to wonder who I am. I'm new to all these forums and I've registered from one to the next as I discovered people talking about this. What I am, is just a normie fan who doesn't usually get involved in fan stuff at all. But I do read a few of the main sites casually and I was following the contest after renewing my own subscription and a getting a friend to do so in order to get the tee shirt. Then the other day, I saw the story announcing the win on Rebelscum and I was totally surprised. So, I decided to click on the little thing that said "forum" to see if there was more information about the whole thing. That's where it all began for me.
I joined in on that thread and within a few hours, Phil was smacking people around and shutting down and erasing the discussion. After being mistreated like that just for asking a few questions, I didn't want to just let it drop. That was totally rude, and this is totally wrong. Beyond that I don't have anything to gain. I just hate that I caused $80 to go to this contest just to see that fans get dismissed and hoodwinked. And just talking about it on a few boards, I'm also seeing what I always suspected: that fandom is kind of insane and there's a lot of incoherent babble to wade through from people who can often barely speak English and may be 12 years old.
So, sorry if I come on too strong, but I can't be the only "silent" fan who doesn't normally post that is offended by how this went. I'm hoping for the sake of fairness that something like this won't be allowed to happen with so many people looking. Both Dustin and USCWANNABE are strangers to me. And Phil is just some guy that treated me like crap on the Internet that seems like a lot of people agree is consistently difficult and unfair on his websites. That's my story. I woudn't even be caught ridiculing his physical appearance and such and has gone on earlier in this thread. I just think he was obnoxious and the whole matter is wrong.
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I'm confused, are you talking about USCwannabe telling people off on the radio show or Philip doing so on his forums with regularity? The whole get a life quote is seemingly so popular in the Star Wars world.
Very true.
I'm referring to USC's blog entries on the StarWarsblogs (which I saw and which were reposted to Rebelscum before being deleted by StarWars.com) where people were asking "who he was" and "why is he not on the forums?". He basically flipped out about it.
Yes, I've seen Philip flip out too. Most recently over the whole Dustin thing.
Personally...I join everyone in wondering why the heck USC was Disqualified. I just don't share the conspiracy theory that somehow Philip Wise is behind it. Might as well blame Brians Toys, Scalpers, army builders or some other collector scapegoat icon.
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...Personally...I join everyone in wondering why the heck USC was Disqualified. I just don't share the conspiracy theory that somehow Philip Wise is behind it. Might as well blame Brians Toys, Scalpers, army builders or some other collector scapegoat icon.
I don't even question much why USCWANNABE was disqualified, since the rules state that IDG and LFL can do that at will. And I don't think it's any kind of big conspiracy either. I just think that Dustin seems clearly ineligible and the win should go to the #3 guy (unless he is disqualified for any reason) or #4 and so on until a rightful winner is certified. If it's left this way, it basically like IDG and LFL are getting away with fraud for allowing a person who is ineligible by the published rules to win the prize.
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Well theottomanguy you seem on the up an up and i find that rather surprizing I hope my dyslexic typeing dosen't make you think I'm a 12 year old as I am much much older and far wiser than my dyslexcia allows me to express (much to my frustration) Like I said I will not dis P.Wise for being a sucess all though the way he handels disputes is just a little better than sir steave who is well known for banning anyone that disagrees with him Phill dose much the same but he tends to talk to you first and give you a chance to hangyourself or give a coherent argument.
I would like to know how DLR won too but I'm not going to hold it against him that he did or assume the he cheated if anyone has the link to USCWANNABE myspace site would they post it as I would like to see what all he has said there befor the contest and after he was DQed.
the one reason I belive that he might have well been a shady charecter is that he had such a lead over DLR considering that he was someone that no one had ever heard of and he didn't heve the website backing that DLR had, for the record I saw that stupid banner (i wish I had designed it instead) on more sites that just rebelcsum and force.net
I don't think if things were on thew up an up that DLR should loose the titel of prez but I do know that there should be an exsplanation of just what happened,
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As soon as there's another site that matches the resources of RS, I'll abandon that place and go where my friends all went....but it just hasn't happened, so I just can't join the hater brigade.
I'd love to hear what those resources are, exactly.
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so I just can't join the hater brigade.
You joined the hater brigade the day you registered over here bub. :)
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I think this is USCWANNABE's MySpace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=70640523). I can't seem to tell which one he is in his photos and there's not really much of anything there having to do with the contest at fist glance.
EDIT: WHOA, big warning: There's a pretty hardcore Star Wars-themed porn drawing in the second page of his comments (albeit not posted by him). That can't have gone over well with anyone at LFL or IDG.
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Several of you guys once agreed that they had the best soup in town. You used to go there every week. Now, some folks either broke the rules in the soup store or pissed off the Soup Nazi, and got themselves banned. Yeah, it sucks cause you're my friends....but darnit, I still want my jambalaya.
As soon as there's another site that matches the resources of RS, I'll abandon that place and go where my friends all went....but it just hasn't happened, so I just can't join the hater brigade.
Forgive me for being blunt, but it's this mentality that keeps people like Phillip Wise in business. If nobody bought "jambalaya" from him based on how poorly he treats people, he wouldn't have so much power in the SW collecting hobby. This stance seems unapologetically selfish, and if you're fine with that, well, great.
Rather than hang on to something rotten to the core just because it has more "resources" , why not be part of building something better at any of the other fine sites, like here, GH, Yakface, etc.? I don't post in any other forums--I mostly just read through threads at work--but there is such a clear difference between Rebelscum and most of the other collecting sites. This place has heart and soul, and I would proudly point it out to any of my friends as representative of my hobby.
Both at Rebelscum and at the formerly (though not for years) indispensable tF.N, I have watched Philip Wise spread out like a cancer across the hobby. I don't begrudge anybody from making a buck, but being a Grade-A dick is unforgivable. I could never support somebody that lousy, regardless of what they may have that I want. Whether he had anything to do with "rigging" the FC President thing or not is beside the point--the biggest issue is how he treats people, and the negative impact it has on SW collecting.
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...Forgive me for being blunt, but it's thisďż˝ mentality that keeps people like Phillip Wise in business. If nobody bought "jambalaya" from him based on how poorly he treats people, he wouldn't have so much power in the SW collecting hobby.ďż˝...
Rather than hang on to something rotten to the core just because it has more "resources" , why not be part of building something better at any of the other fine sites, like here, GH, Yakface, etc.? ...--but there is such a clear difference between Rebelscum and most of the other collecting sites. ...Both at Rebelscum and at the formerly (though not for years) indispensable tF.N, I have watched Philip Wise spread out like a cancer across the hobby. I don't begrudge anybody from making a buck, but being a Grade-A dick is unforgivable. I could never support somebody that lousy, regardless of what they may have that I want.ďż˝ Whether he had anything to do with "rigging" the FC President thing or not is beside the point--the biggest issue is how he treats people, and the negative impact it has on SW collecting.
I agree wholeheartedly. And I think the impact goes way beyond collecting to Star Wars fandom in general.
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If nobody bought "jambalaya" from him based on how poorly he treats people, he wouldn't have so much power in the SW collecting hobby.
I've seen this mentioned several times in this thread and elsewhere so Mike don't take this as a hit on you, it's a hit on anyone who says that. Besides clearly making some coin off of visitors to Rebelscum, what kind of power does Phil have in the hobby?
Can he tell manufacturers what items to make?
Can he force collectors to buy specific items?
Can he force collectors to buy from specific retailers/e-tailers?
Is his site the only site in town, thus giving collectors no choice but to visit RS?
The answer to all of these questions is a resounding No. The closest thing to a Yes would be the first question. He does have contacts at Hasbro and other manufacturers and as such can make suggestions, but in the end the companies will decide what to make. Also there are other sites out there that have contacts at the manufacturers, they likely make the same suggestions but get the same results as Phil - which are probably akin to the results we're all getting from the Q&A.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't like Phil's actions over the last few years and many of you have seen the proof of that (well you know before it was deleted from the RS forums). But a lot of people are saying he has power over the hobby which is a bunch of bull****. What power does he possibly have that can effect your enjoyment of collecting Star Wars toys? When you look at your action figures at night, do you cringe and say that damn Wise how dare he **** with my hobby? No of course not, you grab your figures and start flying them through the air making lightsaber sounds, just like the rest of us. Do you get pissed off at Phil when you see the less than expected quality of the action figure you purchased, of course not you get pissed at Hasbro.
So while bemoaning the bull**** that clearly was the Fan Club presidential money drive and his actions involved with it, don't bitch that Philip Wise is ruining the hobby. The only way he could possibly be doing it is if you think he's doing so and letting it effect your enjoyment of the hobby. And if that's the case, save your sanity and move onto another hobby, one that's less likely to be so seedy like crocheting.
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EDIT: WHOA, big warning: There's a pretty hardcore Star Wars-themed porn drawing in the second page of his comments (albeit not posted by him). That can't have gone over well with anyone at LFL or IDG.
Wow... nothing like a little gang rape Star Wars art, Jesus.
p.s. the artist apparently knows quite a bit about drawing cocks, but doesn't know what Vader's saber looks like. Amatuer. ::)
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... what kind of power does Phil have in the hobby?
I'm not sure it's limited to just the hobby, but the one thing that makes him a pain is that rebelscum is a busy site, with busy forums. But more annoyingly, he also lourds over tf.n and those forums are tyrranical and disgusting and with their Fanforce baloney, they do have an affect on fandom worldwide. There was a point there in 2002, when StarWars.com was lending officiality to Fanforce events surrounding the IMAX release of AOTC with a literal seal of approval. Remember that? It was right after Paul Ens went over from tf.n to working for the official site. When discussion is censored, it's bad. Already at tf.n, the months-old, neglected thread about this "election" (http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=23839786&brd=10008&start=24361843) was mysteriously locked the minute I brought this stuff up there. No coincidence, to be sure.
So, beyond just collecting, Phil is very bad for Star Wars overall.
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Forgive me for being blunt, but it's this mentality that keeps people like Phillip Wise in business. If nobody bought "jambalaya" from him based on how poorly he treats people, he wouldn't have so much power in the SW collecting hobby. This stance seems unapologetically selfish, and if you're fine with that, well, great.
Sounds like a dozen internet petitions I've read over the years. I suppose if everyone stopped buying gasoline and rode their bikes to work, we wouldn't be paying 3 bucks a gallon.
The problem is....that's not realistic. Expecting every member of a huge website to quit simply because the webmaster has been unfair to a handful of members doesn't really wash. What has he done to me? I don't have a reason to stop going to Rebelscum, because it's still an incredibly valuable part of my hobby.
And Philip doesn't treat ALL people badly, he just treats the people who repeatedly challenge the rules he sets forth for his site or talk smack about him badly. Annoying? Sure. Inhuman? Hardly.
He's a businessman. So what? Granted....I'm sure the revenue checks are much smaller, but this site has ads plastered all over the place too. Am I supposed to believe that JD is somehow more noble because not as many people have discovered it yet?
What's good about JD is the community, but it's still a site with sponsors and ads and moderators and all that good stuff. It's just smaller.
Rather than hang on to something rotten to the core just because it has more "resources" , why not be part of building something better at any of the other fine sites, like here, GH, Yakface, etc.?
I am a part of all of the other sites. I just don't see how belonging here means I have to hate the other place to fit in. It shouldn't. I don't think Rebelscum is "rotten to the core". I think it's actually the reverse, where the core is the best part and it's surrounded by stuff that the experience folks know how to navigate around.
You joined the hater brigade the day you registered over here bub.
I joined JD because several of my favorite folks from days past at RS hang out here. I didn't join up with the intention of quitting RS (or even bashing it every day). I simply joined with the intention of continuing to socialize with the members I met there who no longer hang out there.
I'd love to hear what those resources are, exactly.
Rebelscum has the traffic. Everyone goes there. If I want a question answered, a topic replied to, a classified ad to search....that's generally the place to go.
Yes....it generally means I'm going to deal with some new person I've never talked to, but everyone here was new to me at one time too. They've usually got the news first (not always, I know), the local folks who I hang around with all call RS their home and every once in awhile, the conversations are still liveliest in Wuher's.
Right before they get deleted. ;D
For the record, I've TRIED to bring people over here. I even tried to get the Seattle folks to use the JD "look what I found" section exclusively, because it's secure here. It fizzled after a week, because we could never convert everyone over.
That's OK though because you can be a member of RS AND JD. I do it every day. I think JD is great. I think RS is great. I never felt the need to choose.
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I am a part of all of the other sites. I just don't see how belonging here means I have to hate the other place to fit in. It shouldn't.
People don't hate Rebelscum to fit in here. They hate it because of the way Phillip speaks to people, the over-moderating, and the abundance of idiocy from certain posters.
If none of those things bother you, then by all means, continue liking Rebelscum.
It doesn't make you less welcome here or anywhere else.
I don't think Rebelscum is "rotten to the core". I think it's actually the reverse, where the core is the best part and it's surrounded by stuff that the experience folks know how to navigate around
The very core of the core is Phillip. If you're vouching for him, that's your choice - but more and more people every day are going to disagree.
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So the resource is traffic. That's an interesting way of looking at things, to say the least.
The comment regarding RS having the news first most of the time is absolutely inaccurate. I implore you to do a study of your own and match them and us, story for story and report on what you've found. I can guarantee it is not what you stated.
Your counterargument regarding our ads is almost laughable too so I won't really go into that since it's pretty simple to figure out that our ads have a completely different objective.
I'm done trying to get you to open your mind, Josh.
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Josh,
You really need to take off the rose-colored glasses. What rule did I ever break over there in all the time I was a member? (The answer is none, btw.) Granted, the only reason I'm "banned" over there is because I wanted all my personal imformation removed from the site, but what really pisses me off and illustrates my frustration with PW and the rest of the staff over at RS is that I made a post when I decided to leave that was mainly a good-bye to the members I talked to over there and the reasons I decided to leave. It wasn't about the spam e-mail, it was how much the site had changed and how PW treated a lot of good people like crap and the staff was letting the place go to **** (read just about any Mr Kenobi post among many others and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Although my last post was critical of PW and the staff, it was by no means offensive or inaccurate...and I stated that since it wasn't my site, it was better if we just parted ways. The thread was deleted after about 3 posts because of what I said....and the latest antics of PW and the rest are just more examples.
He does have an affect on this hobby because he controls two of the most visited sites on the web, albeit, I'd argue Rebelscum would not be nearly as popular if he had never taken the BHC forums. Now do I think PW just snaps his fingers and the rest of the SW community jumps up....of course not, but he does have his fingers in a lot of pies over there and can easily reach quite a few important ears.
Philip's very blatantly squeezing RS and TF.s for every penny he can get out of them, and if you don't think he's got plans for exploiting Dustin's "election win", you really need to wake the hell up.
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... what kind of power does Phil have in the hobby?
I'm not sure it's limited to just the hobby, but the one thing that makes him a pain is that rebelscum is a busy site, with busy forums. But more annoyingly, he also lourds over tf.n and those forums are tyrranical and disgusting and with their Fanforce baloney, they do have an affect on fandom worldwide. There was a point there in 2002, when StarWars.com was lending officiality to Fanforce events surrounding the IMAX release of AOTC with a literal seal of approval. Remember that? It was right after Paul Ens went over from tf.n to working for the official site. When discussion is censored, it's bad. Already at tf.n, the months-old, neglected thread about this "election" (http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=23839786&brd=10008&start=24361843) was mysteriously locked the minute I brought this stuff up there. No coincidence, to be sure.
So, beyond just collecting, Phil is very bad for Star Wars overall.
Many of his actions in the past couple of years have surely shown that he's been bad for the hobby and the community. But I still don't see how he or his power are ruining either, that is unless you let him effect your enjoyment of the hobby and community. That's the point I was trying to get across - it's one thing to bitch and complain about the bull**** he's been a part of, but to let it adversely effect your enjoyment and involvement in the hobby and community which most definitely transcends Rebelscum and TheForce.Net is just as bad.
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A big point here is that as Star Wars fans and collectors, most/all of us want to have a Fan Club President who is a fan him/herself, who is someone we can look up to, who's a person who wants to be friends with and get to know many other Star Wars fans out there, a person who's fair and willing to speak up for us and listen to our ideas, someone you can approach and chat with at a convention or just say "Hi", someone who doesn't have an "agenda", someone who represents the entire community, and most of all, someone who's worthy and deserving of the position, even if it's just (supposedly) an honorary title for the most part.
Outside of the first point listed above, Dustin is none of those things, and neither is his "master" Phillip. Why in the hell would anyone want a Fan Club President who from the get-go will automatically want to exclude anyone and everyone who may participate at another website, or some other entity who they'd take "competitive issue" with? I wouldn't be surprised if when Dustin gets in there, he searches the Hyperspace subscription database, and starts cancelling all the subscriptions for anyone who's a member at JD, GH, SSG, Yak, etc. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to expel any members who may also be fans of other movie or Sci-Fi franchises, like Star Trek, LOTR, Battlestar Galactica, Pirates, etc. These two guys are exactly that kind of petty. That's not the type of Fan Club President we want to have - someone who immediately hates half the Star Wars community because they don't belong to Rebelscum... That's total bull****.
As for Phillip not having any power in the hobby, I find that absolutely laughable. When we say "hobby", we're not just talking about going to the store and buying a figure, and then enjoying it when we get home. We're talking about the much larger picture, including conventions and events, magazines, licensees, and generally "knowing" all the very top people in the Star Wars world. Sure, Phillip may not have had anything to do with me finally getting a Hem Dazon figure, but he certainly has his fingers in a whole lot of Star Wars pies all over the place. Do you think that some of the more Star Wars specific licensees like Gentle Giant, Master Replicas, Sideshow, Code 3, etc. don't pay him much mind, when he's their number one advertiser, revenue generator, and news reporter? Do you honestly think that some of the polls that RS runs on it's main page don't carry any weight in the decisions these licensees make? Please. That's totally obtuse to suggest such a thing.
Something seemed to have gone down shortly after the unofficial final election results were posted, when all the main honchos over at RS suddenly went completely tight lipped and immediately stopped their griping and conspiracy theories, and inexplicably changed their tunes to a rather confident "it's not technically over yet". They pulled a complete 180 in the course of about an hour or two, and I'm pretty sure there was some kind or reason for that, and that they were already heavily involved in discussions with the Fan Club about the results. Who knows, there's a slight chance that there's a legitimate reason USC got disqualified, but I'd think that if that was the case, IDG wouldn't be so completely stupid and ignorant not to address it with all the fans who "voted". Their silence suggests maybe their reasoning for DQ'ing USC might not be too popular, or legit, if announced to the Star Wars community.
But again, Dustin and anyone else involved with RS/TFn/Official Pix shouldn't have even been allowed to be in the running in the first place, according to the rules. That'd probably even apply to Jeff here as well, now that I thik about it. But that's just the bottom line, and it's irrefutable. Hell, even Phillip Wise himself admitted that detail, which is probably a big reason he subsequently deleted that thread (aside from the fact that a large part of his community was tearing he and Dustin to shreds).
Here's a portion of the contest's rules:
"Employees of Sponsor and Lucasfilm Ltd., their affiliates, subsidiaries, distributors, retailers, and anyone involved with the design, production, execution, or distribution of Sponsor’s or Lucasfilm Ltd.’s products or related promotional materials and their immediate family members (parent, child, sibling, and spouse of each) are not eligible to participate in the Promotion."
Thanks to Travis's quick thinking, here's Phillip's comments on their affiliation:
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Heck, I'd have no problem at all seeing the whole thing go to the third place guy from DC, Mark or Mike, was it?
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So the resource is traffic. That's an interesting way of looking at things, to say the least.
In a community like ours, yes...I think the place with the most people is going to be the one with the most benefits.
The comment regarding RS having the news first most of the time is absolutely inaccurate. I implore you to do a study of your own and match them and us, story for story and report on what you've found. I can guarantee it is not what you stated.
I know they collect it from many different sources, but I usually see it there first. Yes, I'm sure JD often gets it 25 minutes sooner, but in the end, it doesn't matter to me as long as you both have the story. There really are no "exclusives" in this community, because everyone cross-posts. Unless of course you want to count exclusive interviews and stuff....but I really didn't feel like talking about their whole Rancho Obi-Wan, Gentle Giant or Sideshow things they've done as positives. My point is not to belittle JD or give you 10 reasons why they're better. I'm just sticking up for RS a little, because it's not such a horrible place. I know some of you guys hate it...and I respect your reasons why. I even agree with some of them. But I don't hate them along with you. I apologize, but I don't feel like that's a character flaw on my part.
Your counterargument regarding our ads is almost laughable too so I won't really go into that since it's pretty simple to figure out that our ads have a completely different objective.
Your front page has several sponsors. Their front page has some too. Probably more. Philip says his pay the bandwidth bills. I'm sure he makes some nice gravy on top of that. If you have a different objective with the revenue from yours, great. Either way, as the end user.....it's the same deal to me: I see ads on the front page when I stop by.
You guys DO have more contests though, and I think that's sweet, even though I've never won. ;D
I'm done trying to get you to open your mind, Josh.
How do you want me to open it? RS works for me. JD is a great place too, for different reasons. Neither one sucks in my eyes. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one with my eyes open in that regard.
What is it that I am not realizing?
What rule did I ever break over there in all the time I was a member?
I have absolutely no idea. I don't know why half of you guys are banned. The few that I do remember being banned went down in flames, and what a way to go.
A big point here is that as Star Wars fans and collectors, most/all of us want to have a Fan Club President who is a fan him/herself, who is someone we can look up to, who's a person who wants to be friends with and get to know many other Star Wars fans out there, a person who's fair and willing to speak up for us and listen to our ideas, someone you can approach and chat with at a convention or just say "Hi", someone who doesn't have an "agenda", someone who represents the entire community, and most of all, someone who's worthy and deserving of the position, even if it's just (supposedly) an honorary title for the most part.
I would agree with you if Dustin had actually just become the "fan club president". He didn't. He received an honorary title as a prize for selling magazines. This was never an election, it was simply a sales drive. We weren't voting for the best candidate. People were trying to sell subscriptions to hyperspace to win a trip to a comic book convention. Dustin has no more power today than he did a week ago, he just gets a free trip to Comic Con. This whole thing was a joke 3 months ago and it's still a joke today.
Now.....if they ever have a REAL election, where votes are earned and not paid for, and Philip wins......debate the merits of THAT. But when it's a sales drive and the biggest Star Wars collecting site out there comes in 2nd (or even 1st by DQ), I don't see how that should shock anyone. They've got the most resources to throw "votes" at something like this. They used em. Big shocker.
Will the fan club change?
Will ANYTHING change?
I doubt it.
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Just so I understand this, RS gets the news first becasue that is where your read it first? That math doesn't exactly compute. If JD (or any other site) uncovers news first, even by 25 minutes, that makes them first.
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I know they collect it from many different sources, but I usually see it there first. Yes, I'm sure JD often gets it 25 minutes sooner, but in the end, it doesn't matter to me as long as you both have the story.
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Kevin
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Just so I understand this, RS gets the news first becasue that is where your read it first? That math doesn't exactly compute. If JD (or any other site) uncovers news first, even by 25 minutes, that makes them first.
Jeez. I just said RS generally gets the news first.
A few people went "No way", so I then added to that by saying, generally that's how it seems....and when they don't, it's usually a very short amount of time before everyone has the news, so ultimately....who had it 30 minutes before the other site isn't that important to me.
If this is such a sticking point for some people, I retract my statement. RS does not get the news first. They get it last.
HOWEVER...it's where I, Josh, (with some noteable exceptions) personally, generally see the most new news. Is that better? ;D
Again...my intent is to describe why I like that site, not impune this one....ok?
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Just so I understand this, RS gets the news first becasue that is where your read it first? That math doesn't exactly compute. If JD (or any other site) uncovers news first, even by 25 minutes, that makes them first.
Jeez. I just said RS generally gets the news first.
A few people went "No way", so I then added to that by saying, generally that's how it seems....and when they don't, it's usually a very short amount of time before everyone has the news, so ultimately....who had it 30 minutes before the other site isn't that important to me.
If this is such a sticking point for some people, I retract my statement. RS does not get the news first. They get it last.
HOWEVER...it's where I, Josh, (with some noteable exceptions) personally, generally see the most new news. Is that better? ;D
Again...my intent is to describe why I like that site, not impune this one....ok?
And that is all fine, but it does not make them a better resource.
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Not to gang up on you, Josh, but I'm sure you understand - we don't have many folks around here who are in many ways neutral regarding Rebelscum, Philip Wise, or even Dustin, so you're sort of on your own at the moment.
I often times see you say, "Well, they haven't done anything to me - so why should I be upset?" And that always bothers me. God damn, Josh - If you can remain totally passive about all that has gone on over there in the years we've been pals... I can't help but ask, at what point will you care? What is it going to take, man? I know it isn't true, or at least I hope not, but it just comes off as if you really don't care about anything or anyone else, so long as you've got what you want - these benefits, as you keep calling them, must be beyond my imagination, for you to be capable of remaining generally uncaring all this time...
The thing is, though, no matter how much of an apologist you may be for RS, no matter how passive or neutral you are about these things - and no matter how happy YOU are... by repeatedly defending us over there, and by being as open as you are with the fact that you're buddies with us, you're already that much more prone to being taken care of by Philip Wise... than any number of people who actually deserve to be.
You see, he has the same sort of attitude as you... He doesn't care, so long as he gets what he wants. It doesn't matter who you are, or what sort of person you are... You're either with him, or against him. Those are HIS words, not mine. When it comes down to it, in his eyes, you'll probably be with JediDefender. You're probably already on an excel sheet of people who are JD Sympathesers.
You've seen your pals go down, eventually it'll be you.
As far as the 'Who gets the news fastest?' issue... JediDefender has been consistantly kicking Rebelscum's ass for a very, very long time. Just because RS doesn't always credit people they're taking news from, doesn't mean they posted it first. You should set us as our homepage for a while, or make us your first stop. Just give it a shot. News Department, Image Database, Forums... etc.
And yes, Rebelscum has more ads than any other site. They also have the most obstructive ads. Any site that uses Google spyware can go to hell, in my opinion.
All of this is gradually getting off-topic, though...
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A big point here is that as Star Wars fans and collectors, most/all of us want to have a Fan Club President who is a fan him/herself, who is someone we can look up to, who's a person who wants to be friends with and get to know many other Star Wars fans out there, a person who's fair and willing to speak up for us and listen to our ideas, someone you can approach and chat with at a convention or just say "Hi", someone who doesn't have an "agenda", someone who represents the entire community, and most of all, someone who's worthy and deserving of the position, even if it's just (supposedly) an honorary title for the most part.
Outside of the first point listed above, Dustin is none of those things, and neither is his "master" Phillip.
Legal matters aside, I'm not so sure I agree with you here Matt. As you pointed out, Dustin surely fits the criteria of being a fan himself. I've always felt that you help out with a fan/collecting site for one of two reasons: either you truly want to help out the community or you are looking for an ego boost. Dustin has been volunteering for what ... 7-8 years, maybe more, going back to his days at Yak? I don't know that anyone could volunteer for that long simply for an ego boost.
I know I've read a negative comment somewhere from someone about meeting Dustin at one of the cons, but I think you'll find a vast majority of people that have met him describe him in pleasant terms. Heck, I met him briefly at C2 (by that point, we'd had a couple of disagreements about the forums there after CSW and RS merged and both of us were admins, when both of us were used to being the only admin and in charge of our respective forums before the merge) and he was nothing but easily approachable, nice, and pleasant to talk to. Although I haven't been back to Ohio for one of the Cincy regional meetings of the OSWCC, I have heard many people mention how easily approachable Dustin is, along with a sense that he was truly interested in talking with them.
As far as being worthy, you may or may not like what sites he works with, but you have to admit, he has given quite a bit of time to the community - RS, tf.n, being in the leadership at OSWCC, etc. Anyone who has worked at one site can attest to the time that goes into being a volunteer is usually significant, especially when playing multiple roles on one site (news reporting, forum moderation, etc.). Unless there is some proof that he is doing all this while somehow being a major prick about it, he's more than worthy in my book.
I don't know that you could find someone who would fit the criteria you mentioned about "representing the entire community". Remember, toy collecting is just one piece of the SW universe - you have the fan who is only interested in the movies, people who enjoy the books and expanded universe, blah, blah, blah. How is one person going to adequately represent all those groups? Can anyone even adequately represent only the toy collecting portion of the community? I'm not so sure...
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear why the last unofficial tally and the final result seem to be so contradictory, but isn't it much more likely that USCwannabe was disqualified for some reason rather than Philip/Dustin pulled some major shenanigans?
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I know I've read a negative comment somewhere from someone about meeting Dustin at one of the cons, but I think you'll find a vast majority of people that have met him describe him in pleasant terms.
Yeah, but he's a mean drunk...
(http://www.pswcs.com/graphics/meetings/year03/20030426-11.JPG)
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Yeah, but he's a mean drunk...
(http://www.pswcs.com/graphics/meetings/year03/20030426-11.JPG)
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Ah, how many of us have dreamed about doing that after reading CC.com...
;) :P
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Outside of the first point listed above, Dustin is none of those things, and neither is his "master" Phillip. Why in the hell would anyone want a Fan Club President who from the get-go will automatically want to exclude anyone and everyone who may participate at another website, or some other entity who they'd take "competitive issue" with? I wouldn't be surprised if when Dustin gets in there, he searches the Hyperspace subscription database, and starts cancelling all the subscriptions for anyone who's a member at JD, GH, SSG, Yak, etc. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to expel any members who may also be fans of other movie or Sci-Fi franchises, like Star Trek, LOTR, Battlestar Galactica, Pirates, etc. These two guys are exactly that kind of petty. That's not the type of Fan Club President we want to have - someone who immediately hates half the Star Wars community because they don't belong to Rebelscum... That's total bull****.
Matt, I've read much of what you had to say on the general topic of Rebelscum and what not and have respected it, but I gotta say that the above quote makes absolutely no sense. Even if Dustin as the "Fan Club President" had that kind of power, which he doesn't based on the rules set forth for the sales drive that was this "presidential race", the Fan Club would never let him do what you just suggested. By singling out and removing such a vast group of subscribers to the Fan Club, they lose all of the money making potential from that group. As I hinted to in an earlier post, the Fan Club is all about making money and hasn't been fan friendly in years, there's no way they're going to allow anyone's ego to cost them thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in subscription renewals and merchandise purchases. Secondly, on the topic of Dustin being the "Fan Club president" he doesn't represent anyone but Rebelscum. No matter how nice and cool many people think he is, or how much of an ass others think he is, I do not believe he represents any of us. He won a sales drive nothing more, RS will likely use that as part of a marketing campaign down the road as something to set them apart from other sites, since as Chris and Josh have been talking about, not much seperates the various sites when it comes to presentation. Dustin's going to get a lot of freebies, a blurb in the Insider, maybe enquire on his opinions on a broad range of hobby-related topics, but nothing that he gets will have an impact on the hobby. If that were to occur, the problem wouldn't be with Dustin, but the boneheads at Lucasfilm (or whomever runs that piece of **** Fan Club), Hasbro, Lego, and whomever for taking the advice of one person over the broader community.
As for Phillip not having any power in the hobby, I find that absolutely laughable. When we say "hobby", we're not just talking about going to the store and buying a figure, and then enjoying it when we get home. We're talking about the much larger picture, including conventions and events, magazines, licensees, and generally "knowing" all the very top people in the Star Wars world. Sure, Phillip may not have had anything to do with me finally getting a Hem Dazon figure, but he certainly has his fingers in a whole lot of Star Wars pies all over the place. Do you think that some of the more Star Wars specific licensees like Gentle Giant, Master Replicas, Sideshow, Code 3, etc. don't pay him much mind, when he's their number one advertiser, revenue generator, and news reporter? Do you honestly think that some of the polls that RS runs on it's main page don't carry any weight in the decisions these licensees make? Please. That's totally obtuse to suggest such a thing.
I said he certainly has influence on the hobby, but he definitely does not make the broad decisions that everyone implies. Sure he knows a lot of people on the hobby and that's been afforded of him due to the busines aspects he's taken upon, but he doesn't get to decide what does and doesn't happen. Sure his website is likely used as an indicator for what manufacturers think the fan base wants, but that has much to do with how the people who visit RS voice themselves, than what Phil tells the movers and shakers of the hobby. There are many people in this hobby who have had the opportunity to involve themselves with someone of importance at some level in the collecting genre, Mike at GH, Sir Steve, and a host of others who probably wouldn't want me to name them, hell even I've had the luxury of dropping suggestions to people I've known or met, so it isn't as if Phil is the only one capable or currently doing something like this, he's just the one who's most noticable. At the end of the day, toy manufacturers, convention organizers, the C-list actresses who sign up with Official Pix, and everyone in between will do what is best for them and to them that's going to be where the most money lies, as for them this is all a business. If that happens to lead them down a path that Phil has suggested well that's there choice, your choice is to answer back with your dollars by not spending it on the services they offer. (Oh damn did I just paraphrase Pawlus?!?!? ;D)
My whole point of all of this is, don't let Philip Wise's actions ruin your enjoyment of the hobby or community. Hell every time Chris locks up the general RS thread he indicates that if you don't like them, don't patronize them - well the same advice applies to not letting them affect your fun in collecting Star Wars items. Phil has shown that when it comes to the hobby and community, he can be a lying, conceiving, narrow-minded ass and that's pretty pathetic when it comes to us talking about toys, but to let his actions determine what you will do in this very broad ranged hobby is just as sad.
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I would agree with you if Dustin had actually just become the "fan club president". He didn't. He received an honorary title as a prize for selling magazines.
I guess I'm of the opinion that Phillip and Dustin have much greater plans for the Presidency than the few paltry freebies and honorary title that is all that is technically included. Since Dustin would've likely been at SDCC anyway, and doesn't need the freebies at all, and could probably write an article in the Insider if he'd like, I don't see why they all went so agro on the campaign trail, if not for probably having some greater intentions for it beyond those specified (and beyond just the fact that RS/TFn could brag/advertise that it was the home of the Fan Club Pres). Their insane efforts to win that "election" makes me think they'll be pushing for more power than just what's listed in the contest. I guess time will tell...
Not to gang up on you, Josh, but I'm sure you understand - we don't have many folks around here who are in many ways neutral regarding Rebelscum, Philip Wise, or even Dustin, so you're sort of on your own at the moment.
I often times see you say, "Well, they haven't done anything to me - so why should I be upset?" And that always bothers me. God damn, Josh - If you can remain totally passive about all that has gone on over there in the years we've been pals... I can't help but ask, at what point will you care? What is it going to take, man? I know it isn't true, or at least I hope not, but it just comes off as if you really don't care about anything or anyone else, so long as you've got what you want
I have a feeling that Phillip could drop a nuclear bomb on Seattle, and Josh would be the first to jump out of the ashes and support Phillip's actions... :P
Legal matters aside, I'm not so sure I agree with you here Matt. As you pointed out, Dustin surely fits the criteria of being a fan himself. I've always felt that you help out with a fan/collecting site for one of two reasons: either you truly want to help out the community or you are looking for an ego boost. Dustin has been volunteering for what ... 7-8 years, maybe more, going back to his days at Yak? I don't know that anyone could volunteer for that long simply for an ego boost.
I pointed out a few pages ago that Dustin has certainly done a lot for the online collecting community over the years, and all of his work, time, and energy has gotten him to where he is today. I certainly don't deny him that. I'd even go so far as to say he was doing it for the love of the hobby and to help people out for the first three-fourths of that tenure. I would say it's more of an ego-trip and about power over the last year or two though, as RS has shifted gears towards being more of a totalitarian regime, and giant corporation. In the process, I think Dustin's boss has been wearing off on him quite a bit. I thought he was a perfectly cool guy too, prior to that, actually...
I know I've read a negative comment somewhere from someone about meeting Dustin at one of the cons, but I think you'll find a vast majority of people that have met him describe him in pleasant terms.
I'm sure if Dustin was approached anonymously, or by a Rebelscum member, or by someone he's never had contact with, that'd surely be the case. But for anyone who's been turned off from RS, or banned, alienated, demeaned, or admonished by any of the powers that be at RS, that'd likely not be the case. I can assure you that no one from this site would be able to have a cordial (and not fake) conversation with him, and I'm pretty sure that'd apply to some other folks at other sites as well. I've definitely heard of a number of situations like that just from the past couple of years.
Heck, I met him briefly at C2 (by that point, we'd had a couple of disagreements about the forums there after CSW and RS merged and both of us were admins, when both of us were used to being the only admin and in charge of our respective forums before the merge)
Please, you're not actually suggesting that the 19 or so members registered in the "Rebel Lounge" constituted a forum, are you Matt?! :P
Unless there is some proof that he is doing all this while somehow being a major prick about it, he's more than worthy in my book.
Well, opinions definitely vary there, and yes, I'd say there's a ton of evidence that he's been a prick to a whole lot of people, both throughout the boards, in his local area, and in person. Heck, JD owes much of it's success to the fact that Dustin was a prick to a lot of people here (and Phillip), and banned them for no reason, and/or just drove them away. He didn't even give a number of us ANY reason for our bannings, other than "you should know". Not to mention, he's so petty he went and locked up my completely inactive feedback thread at RS (at 100 posts), just because. Odd that nobody else has had that happen to them. Like has been mentioned numerous times earlier in this thread, Phillip's motta, and therefore Dustin's, is "You're either with us, or against us." Phillip of course reiterated that the other day, and told anyone who didn't like Dustin, and/or didn't like Dustin winning, whether they said it aloud, or just thought it in their heads, to get the hell out of RS and never come back. Very Orwellian motto to live by there, and certainly not something I'd ever be supportive of, thats for sure, which is why I've repeated over and over that these two jerks don't represent the whole community, and should have nothing to do with the Presidency of the Fan Club, whether it's as an honorary figurehead, or more.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear why the last unofficial tally and the final result seem to be so contradictory, but isn't it much more likely that USCwannabe was disqualified for some reason rather than Philip/Dustin pulled some major shenanigans?
I would hope so, but I honestly don't think that's the case. Phillip wanted that title way too much to sit idly by while someone else apparently won it. I think he was in the Fan Club's ear throughout the latter portion of the race, when Dustin started losing by a large amount. Besides, Dustin shouldn't have been eligible anyway, so it's a moot point. They should just give it to the fella from DC instead.
Outside of the first point listed above, Dustin is none of those things, and neither is his "master" Phillip. Why in the hell would anyone want a Fan Club President who from the get-go will automatically want to exclude anyone and everyone who may participate at another website, or some other entity who they'd take "competitive issue" with? I wouldn't be surprised if when Dustin gets in there, he searches the Hyperspace subscription database, and starts cancelling all the subscriptions for anyone who's a member at JD, GH, SSG, Yak, etc. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to expel any members who may also be fans of other movie or Sci-Fi franchises, like Star Trek, LOTR, Battlestar Galactica, Pirates, etc. These two guys are exactly that kind of petty. That's not the type of Fan Club President we want to have - someone who immediately hates half the Star Wars community because they don't belong to Rebelscum... That's total bull****.
Matt, I've read much of what you had to say on the general topic of Rebelscum and what not and have respected it, but I gotta say that the above quote makes absolutely no sense. Even if Dustin as the "Fan Club President" had that kind of power, which he doesn't based on the rules set forth for the sales drive that was this "presidential race", the Fan Club would never let him do what you just suggested. By singling out and removing such a vast group of subscribers to the Fan Club, they lose all of the money making potential from that group.
I think you're taking me a little too literally there, Jason. I don't think that would/could ever happen, I'm just saying the "You're either with us, or against us" totalitarian, and even Orwellian now, attitudes of the RS higher-ups is just spiteful and vindictive enough to want to do something as stupid as cancelling people's subscriptions that they didn't like. Obviously they don't have that kind of power, and IDG wouldn't allow it (beyond just for financial reasons). I'm just saying those guys and their attitude are just that petty to want to do something like that, and that attitude unfortunately then extends out to other areas beyond just the Insider subscription, as I've mentioned above. They're alienating many Star Wars fans (I'm not just talking about collecting here, as the TFn community has had major problems with Phillip as well) who should otherwise be embraced by someone at the head of their respective Fan Club and hobby. That's all.
I obviously don't expect everyone to feel the same way, so it's not that big a deal. Some folks are just fortunate enough to not have seen the "other side" of these guys, I guess... Teaches us for allowing RS'ers to have freedom of speech over here to discuss what they can't discuss over there. That's basically the root of some of the problelms for folks affiliated with this site anyway.
I think I'll just shut up now... :-X
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Yeah, but he's a mean drunk...
(http://www.pswcs.com/graphics/meetings/year03/20030426-11.JPG)
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Ah, how many of us have dreamed about doing that after reading CC.com...
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How many of us have dreamed about doing that after getting an email with "I need more stories <whipcrack>!"
or "I'm out of headlines, write something witty <whipcrack>!"
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I think you're taking me a little too literally there, Jason. I don't think that would/could ever happen, I'm just saying the "You're either with us, or against us" totalitarian, and even Orwellian now, attitudes of the RS higher-ups is just spiteful and vindictive enough to want to do something as stupid as cancelling people's subscriptions that they didn't like. Obviously they don't have that kind of power, and IDG wouldn't allow it (beyond just for financial reasons). I'm just saying those guys and their attitude are just that petty to want to do something like that, and that attitude unfortunately then extends out to other areas beyond just the Insider subscription, as I've mentioned above. They're alienating many Star Wars fans (I'm not just talking about collecting here, as the TFn community has had major problems with Phillip as well) who should otherwise be embraced by someone at the head of their respective Fan Club and hobby. That's all.
Matt, I'm glad to know I mistook your words, but from what I've seen posted around many others have said things similar and you begin to see a trend where people actually believe the ****'s going to fly over at the Fan Club once Dustin walks in through the proverbial doors. I do agree that their is a lot of alienating going on and that's downright sad and there is a lot of blame to be thrown around for that. From my point of view though, the head of the Fan Club is still whomever owns it and that Dustin is at best a figurehead to be paraded around when the FC needs "fan relations", somewhat in the way the Queen of England is used. In the end though, no sweat off my back, the FC has been **** for years which is what led me to discontinue my membership and their actions are not endearing themselves now.
Oh and don't let anyone who's disagreeing with you (including me) stop you from voicing your our thoughts. You're clearly passionate over the topic, just don't let the passion ruin the fun of the hobby for ya.
Cheers!
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You know what I wish? I wish the Star Wars collecting community weren't a bunch of nerds at their computers, but that we were a bunch of street thugs packing gats and ****. I could totally see this whole thing erupting into a huge turf war.
Or if nothing else, a sweet mafia type movie. Here's how I'd cast it (please note, I haven't seen many of you guys in person, or even in pictures, so you're being cast according to personality):
JoshEEE: (he's going to be the main character; torn between two sites (and possibly, two men...) that he loves) Chris Kattan
JediMAC: Will Ferrell and/or CGI
Jeff: Dave Navarro
Phillip Wise: George Carlin
Chris Berry: Jake Lloyd
Rob: Justin Timberlake
jjks: Natalie Portman (you are a girl Jaime, right?)
Angry Ewok: Himself
Scott: Jean Reno Peter Billingsly
Morgbug: Steve Smith (the guy who plays "Red Green")
CorranHorn: Luke Wilson
Dressel Rebel: Jane Fonda
Jesse James: Jesse James (from the motorcycle show)
Deanpaul: Keanu Reeves
Mike Sullenger: Norm MacDonald
Dustin: Andy Richter
Greg(g)/GNT: DJ Qualls (duh)
Matkattykid/Mr.Kenobi: Whoever played the Kurt Cobain guy in Gus Van Sant's "Last Days"
MisterPL: The guy who played the Merovingian in the Matrix movies; he'd be the same character.
Famine: Robert Iler
Sprry75: Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt, obviously
Matt Carroll: Matt Dillon
Cory: Vin muthafucking Diesel
Matthew/Virex: Fred Willard (but Ben Affleck for the flashback scene)
Bertha/Lady Jaye: Horatio Sanz
Bill Cable: I dunno; probably gonna go with an unknown.
I know I missed a lot of essential characters. Please feel free to chime in with your suggestions. I will also use lots of extras. Lots and lots of twenty-to-thirtiesh, overweight bald guys with facial hair.
Meanwhile, Deanpaul, loan me that bitching ass video camera you've got; I've got a fanfilm to start on....
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Hey, wha' happened?
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Hey, wha' happened?
(http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2003_A_Mighty_Wind/2003_a_mighty_wind_008.jpg)
Exactly. Now you get a co-producer credit, too.
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Hey Mr Doppleganger...it has already been established at these boards that any movie that is going to have me as a character needs to have Peter Billingsley cast as me, go it?
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/ralphie.JPG)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/8-03/ralphie2.jpg)
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I hope I get killed off in the opening sequence...
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I'm hoping Steve Buscemi makes an apearance as me. ::)
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Oh, gawddammit. Here we go, with the "talent" trying to make creative decisions....
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I'm totally stealing that movie idea. I have my own camera, so I can start right away. Sorry Sprry. :P
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11641.0;id=2077;image)
Hey Brad, Tom Selleck just called and he wants his shirt back.
"I used to have nightmares that they would put 'He played Ted' Deanpaul on my tombstone" - said during an interview when the interviewer asked Keanu if he had any fears.
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Beware my plaid lightsaber held together by duct tape.
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I'm totally stealing that movie idea. I have my own camera, so I can start right away. Sorry Sprry. :P
No problem because I'm way too lazy and/or flaky to ever get it done. But I do have a screenplay already drafted. I'll email it to you if you promise not to take out the part where Carrie (played by Angelina Jolie) comes back and gets it on with Sprry75.
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I miss Carrie, and Beedo, and all those good folks from the old days...
Hey Brad, Tom Selleck just called and he wants his shirt back.
You should see the black one, with a mosiac of dancing pink flamingos... Matter of fact, just stick around - I'll post it later, along with some sweater shots.
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CorranHorn: Luke Wilson
No way! I get the crappy Wilson, what the ****?!!? :D
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Consider yourself lucky to get a Wilson at all - Owen's available and wants the part, but I get Justin Timberlake.
(which isn't that disappointing, but his Movie Career (is) Not As Successful As (his) Music. (http://www.bestsyndication.com/Articles/2006/dan_wilson/entertainment/06-07/071506_justin_timberlake_movie_edison_force.htm))
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Consider yourself lucky to get a Wilson at all - Owen's available and wants the part, but I get Justin Timberlake.
(which isn't that disappointing, but his Movie Career (is) Not As Successful As (his) Music. (http://www.bestsyndication.com/Articles/2006/dan_wilson/entertainment/06-07/071506_justin_timberlake_movie_edison_force.htm))
You're right, I retract my disappointment. You have it a WHOLE LOT worse. ;D
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If I ever get added to the cast >:( I would like to be played by Lily Tomlin.
And for the record, Ernest Borgnine would be a much better Philip Wise.
John
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And for the record, Ernest Borgnine would be a much better Philip Wise.
Agreed.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Ernest.jpg)
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**** you guys. Carlin was born to play Phillip Wise:
(http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20060613/160_ap_carlin_060613.jpg)
(Although if your image worked, that picture might have made a compelling case for who could replace Carlin in the inevitable sequel.)
By the way, I think I hit the nail on the head (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16072006/364/timberlake-s-hidden-drug-binges.html) with my casting of Rob.
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Forgive the newbie for chiming in on this, but I think that for Philip Wise, some obvious choices have been passed over:
Wallace Shawn:
(http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/wallace.jpg)
or better yet, everyone's favorite money-hungry Ferengi,
Armin Shimmerman:
(http://maryloye.com/images/97110814.jpg)
I think either would be very convincing once costumed in an appropriate "Turbodildo" tee shirt.
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(http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2003_A_Mighty_Wind/2003_a_mighty_wind_008.jpg)
Exactly. Now you get a co-producer credit, too.
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(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/a_mighty_wind/fred_willard/oscars.jpg)
You have no idea how badly I want Christopher Guest to make a mockumentary about us sci-fi/toy/collecting/computer nerds. It'd be a ******* riot.
And I still want someone to make a custom GNT figure, too. And then make a photonovel using it.
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(Although if your image worked, that picture might have made a compelling case for who could replace Carlin in the inevitable sequel.)
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Had a nice long break from the internet this weekend, as I was working (finally) on my Star Wars room at the new house.
This is going to be my best one yet....and I can't wait to share the pictures here. ;D
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I often times see you say, "Well, they haven't done anything to me - so why should I be upset?" And that always bothers me. God damn, Josh - If you can remain totally passive about all that has gone on over there in the years we've been pals... I can't help but ask, at what point will you care? What is it going to take, man? I know it isn't true, or at least I hope not, but it just comes off as if you really don't care about anything or anyone else, so long as you've got what you want - these benefits, as you keep calling them, must be beyond my imagination, for you to be capable of remaining generally uncaring all this time...
And...
You've seen your pals go down, eventually it'll be you.
I really can't aruge with that I guess. Yes, I've seen a lot of you banned from Rebelscum. It sucks. I don't like seeing that and I hate the fact that some of you aren't welcome over there (even if you wanted to come back). I guess all I'm trying to get across is I don't want to be thought of as being disloyal or something, just because I continue to hang out there. It's still a cool place as far as I'm concerned. But yes, I realize my membership over there could get yanked from me at any moment. Even if I was banned....I'd probably still visit to help subsidize my collecting habit. ;D
Every once in awhile, when I find myself defending JD to Mattkenobi, LJ, or some other yahoo over there that wants to make cracks about this place.....I wonder if it might get me in trouble. If I get banned for NOT hating Jedidefender, yeah, that would suck.....same as it would if suddenly Chris decided to throw me out of here for not hating RS. For the most part though....I try and follow the rules so as not to get thrown out. I know where the line is and though I may dance around it, I try not to cross it. I like my membership and would like to keep it.
I have a feeling that Phillip could drop a nuclear bomb on Seattle, and Josh would be the first to jump out of the ashes and support Phillip's actions...
I'm not THAT bad.
Do I think Philip having ads on his free website or sending me the occasional targeted email is evil? No (although if it got too annoying, I might change that opinion).
Do I think that blanketing everyone from JD with bans was fair? No. I think it was a "Clean N Sweep" attack to solve a site war that never really was. Plus, it was a long time ago. In a perfect world, I'd like to see all of you were reinstated, as an acknowledgement that the community at large is better off with you in it. However, I don't think that anyone here who's banned really wants to go back, and that's really the meat of the whole thing.
Last but not least, and on topic:
Do I think Philip somehow rigged this "election"? No. As evil as some make him out to be, I don't think he or Dustin would do something like that....nor do I think they'd have the power to do it even if they wanted to. USC probably got DQed for any number of things he said or did online, or some things we never even heard about.
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Do I think Philip somehow rigged this "election"? No. As evil as some make him out to be, I don't think he or Dustin would do something like that....nor do I think they'd have the power to do it even if they wanted to. USC probably got DQed for any number of things he said or did online, or some things we never even heard about.
Do you think their status as an official LF licensee is a conflict of interest in regards to the contest rules?
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Do you think their status as an official LF licensee is a conflict of interest in regards to the contest rules?
... rebelscum calls itself an "affiliate" of starwarshop.com. ... as a person who distributes promotional material for IDG, Dustin is clearly ineligible to participate in the contest according to the rules as written. ... There's still hope that IDG can be made aware of this and everyone's distaste for these results. I'm thinking that an email/phone campaign is gonna begin pretty soon. So, stay tuned.
Yeah, it seems that Dustin's activities on TF.N and RS make him very clearly ineligible under the rules as published. The question is why is no one at IDG or LFL answering inquiries pointing that out?
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Do you think their status as an official LF licensee is a conflict of interest in regards to the contest rules?
Philip did not run, Dustin did. Had Philip run, yes....that would have been breaking the rules.
Dustin is not employed by Philip as far as I'm aware. From personal experience, I can say that Rebelscum doesn't pay it's staff a dime. ;D
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...Dustin is not employed by Philip as far as I'm aware. From personal experience, I can say that Rebelscum doesn't pay it's staff a dime. ;D
Being paid cash as an employee is actually not the issue on which this turns. Unpaid interns and even family members of all such parties would also be ineligible. But the specific clear conflict with the rules under which Dustin falls is their clause that "ANYONE INVOLVED in the distribution of promotional materials for IDG or LFL is ineligible for the promotion".
Dustin himself reported the original story about the contest, fully quoting IDG's press release before deciding to participate. And of course, he routinely does so on both TF.N and RS when doing his reporting. Pay is not a factor.
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Being paid cash as an employee is actually not the issue on which this turns. Unpaid interns and even family members of all such parties would also be ineligible. But the specific clear conflict with the rules under which Dustin falls is their clause that "ANYONE INVOLVED in the distribution of promotional materials for IDG or LFL is ineligible for the promotion".
Dustin himself reported the original story about the contest, fully quoting IDG's press release before deciding to participate. And of course, he routinely does so on both TF.N and RS when doing his reporting. Pay is not a factor.
I think you might be taking the definition of "distribution" a little too far. By your definition anyone in the press, anyone that ever wrote a blog or did a podcast or, potentially, any one that quoted them during a forum discussion could possibly be disqualified. Now, if RS was an officially sponsored public relations firm for IDG and/or Lucasfilm then maybe that part of it would apply.
However, I think some of your other arguments still stand. If you work for a company that in some way is an affiliate of those running the contest, you might be out. That would seemingly include web sites that are affiliates, meaning you make money through sales when people click ad banners on your site. I also think OfficialPix would qualify.
But that part about distribution, no. I have my own blog but I don't have advertisement banners or any affiliate links on my site and I don't think I'd be counted out if I quoted their press release and discussed it.
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However, I think some of your other arguments still stand. If you work for a company that in some way is an affiliate of those running the contest, you might be out. That would seemingly include web sites that are affiliates, meaning you make money through sales when people click ad banners on your site. I also think OfficialPix would qualify.
That is an interesting point. I guess to what extent they consider Official Pix an affilliated company and to what extent Philip considers Dustin involved with Offical Pix.
I guess what I'm more curious about is what USCwannabe did to become disqualified. That is a lot more interesting to me than why Dustin WASN'T disqualified.
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I think you might be taking the definition of "distribution" a little too far. By your definition anyone in the press, anyone that ever wrote a blog or did a podcast or, potentially, any one that quoted them during a forum discussion could possibly be disqualified. Now, if RS was an officially sponsored public relations firm for IDG and/or Lucasfilm then maybe that part of it would apply.
However, I think some of your other arguments still stand. If you work for a company that in some way is an affiliate of those running the contest, you might be out. That would seemingly include web sites that are affiliates, meaning you make money through sales when people click ad banners on your site. I also think OfficialPix would qualify.
But that part about distribution, no. I have my own blog but I don't have advertisement banners or any affiliate links on my site and I don't think I'd be counted out if I quoted their press release and discussed it.
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Nice try, but I think he's still pinched. The point that Phil freaked out and closed the thread about this on RS was the point right after which he admitted that RS is (his words) an "affiliate" of starwarsshop.com and that anyone that voted for Dustin by clicking through RS to there, triggered a cash kickback to RS for that vote under the starwarsshop.com affiliate program. So, yeah, affiliate then. That seemed to lock it in for me, and Phil. Because when I called him out after saying that, he deleted the thread and put up what you see there now.
Your blog is safe. But yes, according to the way these rules are written, they DO seem to exclude anyone who is a staff writer on any major site that passes on unedited promotional material for IDG, LFL or any of their affiliates. This even means that technically, Dustin would be disqualified just for promoting RS on TF.N or somesuch, since RS is an "affiliate". These rules are written broadly on purpose to prevent anything like this from happening.
These are THEIR rules. If they wanted it to be different, they could have written them any way they want. But once they publish these rules and run a contest under them, involving the public in purchases based on these rules, they are bound to follow them, or be open to claims of fraud.
As for USCWANNABE, his disqualification (while very interesting as juicy gossip to the rest of us) is protected overtly from disclosure under these rules because they say that IDG reserves the right to disqualify anyone for any violation of the rules or for failing (at IDG's sole discretion) IDG's background check and that all of IDG's decisions are final. So, it would be hard (if not legally nearly impossible) to compell a comment out of IDG on that disqualification.
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Why in the world has USCWANNABE not commented on this yet? ???
He has to have read what's been going on...
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I'm very sure he's too ashamed to. It had to be either cheating or being a scumbag that got him bounced (or both). So he's probably moved on to the Zathura fandom or something. I don't expect to ever hear from him in any public way.
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http://blogs.starwars.com/starwars4life/6
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Yeah, that's been up since April. I can't tell if that's all that's left of his blog, or if he put that up after his blog was pulled by sw.com. Apparantly, he wrote something horrible there that got his blog deleted at some point. This was either what they left of it, or something he put up afterwards. I tend to think it was there before the deletion, because of the date. He cannot have been told he was disqualified that early because he kept up strong getting refferals right until 5/15/06.
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I can't tell if that's all that's left of his blog
I saw a few of the posts that were removed, but they don't seem to be up there now. I believe StarWars.com removed them, not Mr. USC.
I would like to hear from him though, it'll be interesting to hear his side.
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Oh, yeah, sw.com certainly did edit/delete his blog. Lots of people have in various places on the Internet have said they noticed that. But no one kept close tabs on what used to be there and when things were cut.
It'd be nice to hear from him. But I'd be really surprised if we ever do. At most, someone who knows him might come around someday with some heresay, is the most I expect.
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Patience is a virtue.
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I want to know if the people who subscribed with him as their referral got a refund
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Subscribers can always get a refund for the unused portion of their subscription. That's the law. All they'd have to do is call and cancel. Of course, they would not get the magazine or online access to Hyperspace for free at that point.
I'm not sure if they were prepared for what to do about someone who say, got a second person to subscribe and got their tee shirt, but then the referral cancelled after the tee shirt was awarded. Or, if even worse, if so many people demanded refunds after the winner was announced that it would somehow affect the standings if those votes were deducted. None of that came to pass, but I think those are all huge holes in this contest plan.
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Patience is a virtue.
You guys keep hinting that you know something we don't know.
I can't wait to see this interview. ;D
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Patience is a virtue.
You guys keep hinting that you know something we don't know.
I can't wait to see this interview. ;D
Yeah, really. Spill the beans already! ;)
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If I get banned for NOT hating Jedidefender, yeah, that would suck.....same as it would if suddenly Chris decided to throw me out of here for not hating RS.
To me, the comparison is absurd. You'd have to do some hardcore trolling to get banned here, and you would have your nads stomped by the group on your way out. You wouldn't be quietly banned and then any and all talk about your suspension wiped from the record.
RS is the place where instead of dealing with a problem or criticism, it is swept away. There are no guideposts for noobs to learn the ropes of posting, since anything that goes awry is deleted.
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I don't think anyone is "suddenly" thrown out of here. The mods do a good job of talking to the offender and giving them ample warning about a problem so that it can be corrected.
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I don't think anyone is "suddenly" thrown out of here. The mods do a good job of talking to the offender and giving them ample warning about a problem so that it can be corrected.
It's true. Even one of the staff banned himself, just to send a message to any one doubting that they were fair. :-*
Kevi
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To me, the comparison is absurd. You'd have to do some hardcore trolling to get banned here, and you would have your nads stomped by the group on your way out. You wouldn't be quietly banned and then any and all talk about your suspension wiped from the record.
RS is the place where instead of dealing with a problem or criticism, it is swept away. There are no guideposts for noobs to learn the ropes of posting, since anything that goes awry is deleted.
I don't think my comparison was "absurd" at all. Throwing someone off a website because they are registered at a competing website is silly. That's all I'm saying. They don't throw you out of McDonald's because you also eat at Burger King and talk about how crappy the McDonald's burgers are while you're in there. It would be crazy for RS to throw me out just because I also post here, and vice versa. I don't dislike either site at all.
Yes, I realize RS has actually thrown people out for things they've said or done over here. I don't get that. And yes, it's a lot easier to get banned over there.
As for the grand measures it would take to get banned over here, again...I attribute that to the whole traffic thing. This place is like Cheers. If you act up in Cheers, the other patrons quickly stifle you, and you'd quickly realize that your antics aren't welcomed. If you continue them despite no one thinking you're cool, one of the staff will throw you out, creating a huge scene.
RS is like a Baseball stadium or a Casino. If someone acts up, the ushers in black quickly throw you the hell out of there without asking any questions and erase any trace that you were ever there. Unless you happened to be at the site at the moment something went down, the next day.....you'll never even see the problem.
Although this practice works well when people do things like post a bunch of porn (someone did that the other day), I think it's counterproductive for silly things like an insult that went too far or a thread skepticizing questionable "election" results. When these sorts of threads are swept under the rug, the majority of members never get to learn what's right and wrong to say there, and that's partly why some bans end up being "shocking".
When I was moderating, I used the padlocks instead of the "Move to private admin section" feature, and I always posted a one or two sentence note letting folks know why the thread was locked. I would warn the topic starter publicly or privately and what they wrote would then sit there as a reminder of what NOT to post until it eventually fell off the front pages into obscurity. The best moderators there still do this, and I know all the moderators here do it. It's the only way that people learn.
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What ever happened to bibfortuna? :-[
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I contacted USCWANNABE just after the election started, when he was a runner up to Dustin. I offered to help his campaign... we talked a lot via email and he was very genuine, a real fan who had his life changed by SW and he wanted to give back to it. He wasn't well known online in our circles, but he knew a lot of fans around the world. He told me he had a lot of people contact him and say they wanted to vote for him as they didn't like Dustin... nothing new there. Until the very final day he was in very high spirits and was sure he had won. He was very grateful and humble about the support he had got and wasn't going to forget it...
What happened I don't know. He hasn't replied to my mails so no idea, there is a chance something could have 'happened' to him.
USCWANNABE posted the blog linked on my site before it went on SW.com, as a press release, and it contains some comments about his past, maybe those were used to disqualify him. The myspace page I recall was made by someone for him, not by him.
As for Dustin I have to agree he should be disqualified due to the rules... Now there are comments that he isn't paid and doesn't work for Philip's sites. I used to be friends with a current RS staff member, amazing how RS changes people, and he told me that 'some' of the staff are paid, but those who are not don't know that. Besides that when RS staff are doing things like staffing the OfficialPix stand at cons are they doing it for free? Would you go to a con to work on a stand selling stuff and do it at your own cost? Some staff live in the UK who have done it... that isn't because they are dedicated... I cannot imagine that Philip doesn't pay for flights or their time at least... Also the advertising on RS is partly affiliate scheme, and some staff have their own affiliate schemes so they directly earn from those links. Nothing terrible at all, infact perfectly fair of Philip to thank his staff for their work by giving them freebies or kick backs, and I for 1 don't see it as a negative... but it shows that the staff are paid in some means to work on RS and co.
As for the banning on RS... I got banned because I pointed out that an RS staff member was selling pirate DVD's of Clone Wars, Droids etc BEFORE the official versions were made, and the staffer had linked to the site they had set up for selling the stuff. Illegal full stop... but I got banned and the staffer stayed. Since then I have not been allowed to rejoin, none of my site staff can either and they are removed as soon as they do, banned by association... and I am told by some of my site visitors that when they joined RS forums they got banned if they mentioned TPU and in one case someone was banned for what seemed to be because his ISP is the same as mine so the IP address was similar... paranoid or what.
On the 'who gets news first' point... TPU has beaten RS by up to 6 months with some news, and other times got it right when they got it wrong... We used to send our news to them, but it would be used without credit or link, so we gave up... other times it is just taken without a credit... not very community friendly. I have seen on JD, Yak etc plenty of news scoops before RS caught up... I know that RS are not as close to official sources as they like their readers to think they are... but that's another topic.
Sorry to burst in after 40 pages... I'll go back to lurk mode now :)
Pete
http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk - Putting UK Star Wars Fans First!
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Hmmm. I wonder who that staffer was? ::)
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Hmmm. I wonder who that staffer was? ::)
Perhaps the same staff member who was vigilantly defending a UK friend of his who had ripped off at least 30+ Rebelscum members through their classifieds to the tune of several thousand dollars...? :o
I remember Scott noticing the bootleg/illegal copies being sold as well, and brought it up as being rather hypocritical, since the RS staff had busted/banned some of their members for doing the same thing in the forums here. Go figure. Staff membership has it's perks, I guess... ::)
Kinda like when Jeff asked why a number of RS members were getting suspended/banned for having links in their sigs to other personal or interesting sites (non-JD, mind you), and whatnot, while all of the RS staff members had the same thing at the time. In fact, Jeff was labeled a trouble maker for pointing that out, and was banned, followed by the rest of the JD bannings immediately following. Truth hurts, I guess, and as always, much of the staff there does NOT lead by example. Follow their lead in a number of respects, and you could very well get busted. Staff membership has it's priveleges, indeed.
:P
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Jeremy is probably the biggest scumbag on staff there. I brought the illegal DVD thing to PWise's attention, he's still working there and I am banned for doing absolutely nothing (I was never given a reason why other than guilt by being a FORMER JD Staff Member)
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Jeremy is probably the biggest scumbag on staff there. I brought the illegal DVD thing to PWise's attention, he's still working there and I am banned for doing absolutely nothing (I was never given a reason why other than guilt by being a FORMER JD Staff Member)
That's pretty freaking hilarious given that this is a quote of the Rebelscum General Forum Rules:
Illegal sales or other activity: We can not allow you to use our forums to distribute illegal goods. These include stolen or fake merchandise, or distributing copyrighted material in violation of U.S. copyright laws. If it goes against US law, we can not allow it.
Such posts will be deleted by a moderator. Such members are subject to having their account suspended by an administrator, as well as having the proper legal authorities contacted. (http://www.rebelscum.com/forumguide.asp)
So from their own rules, Phillip should have banned Jeremy and turned him over to the F.B.I.
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He tried throwing around his ties as a staff member there I recall, its probably buried in the JD Admin Archives somewhere if someone wants to look
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Jeremy is probably the biggest scumbag on staff there. I brought the illegal DVD thing to PWise's attention, he's still working there and I am banned for doing absolutely nothing (I was never given a reason why other than guilt by being a FORMER JD Staff Member)
I'm pretty sure that Jeremy is no longer part of the staff there (or, at least, he wasn't for awhile), though I doubt it had anything to do with this situation. Lame.
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Jeremy is probably the biggest scumbag on staff there. I brought the illegal DVD thing to PWise's attention, he's still working there and I am banned for doing absolutely nothing (I was never given a reason why other than guilt by being a FORMER JD Staff Member)
I'm pretty sure that Jeremy is no longer part of the staff there (or, at least, he wasn't for awhile), though I doubt it had anything to do with this situation. Lame.
You know, you're right, and that happened a short while after the Gareth scam thing.
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Jeremy is probably the biggest scumbag on staff there. I brought the illegal DVD thing to PWise's attention, he's still working there and I am banned for doing absolutely nothing (I was never given a reason why other than guilt by being a FORMER JD Staff Member)
I'm pretty sure that Jeremy is no longer part of the staff there (or, at least, he wasn't for awhile), though I doubt it had anything to do with this situation. Lame.
He still is posting on the EuroRebelscum site (if its the same guy). If it is I had traded with him before and thought he was okay outside of Scum. This was when there was that big agument in the trade section over the non-SW trade items being trade over there.
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Yes he is still on RS... no idea how he got away with pirating DVD's, what did Philip say to Lucasfilm to get him off I don't know.
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I posted something in the rebelscum thread, so I won't repeat it here. But the way this fan club campaign went down, and Philip's unprofessional (yet typical) response, led me to delete rebelscum.com from my list of sites forever.
I wonder how much grief Dustin will actually catch now that he's over there.
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Well, judging by the caption on this photo on the official site (http://www.starwars.com/community/event/con/f20060718/20060718_picview/pictureviewer.html?imgNum=32&world=community), I'm reasonably sure that the rumpsmooching has already begun in earnest.
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Still wondering if any of the legions of smacktalkers on the internet will actually bring any of their gripes to the big "Announcement" on stage. Is that tomorrow?
I wonder if the fan club has let Dustin know why he was chosen and if he'll be allowed to answer the question at the big unveiling.
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I agree... is anyone willing to take these forum rumblings to the man himself? Who ever does step forward will gain a 'hero' status amungst the 'not happy about RS club'...
Q's need to asked... who is asking them?
Pete
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Was I present, I'd do it in a heart beat. I brought a can of SPAM for Philip to Dustin, so I'd have no problem calling foul to his face.
Kevin
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Yeah, same here. I'd have no trouble standing up about it. But I'm nowhere near SanDiego. And after this, I'm not willing to spend money on cons for Star Wars, either.
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Has there been an officical announcement scheduled for SDCC?
I'm thinking they'll be an announcement but no opportunity to ask questions about the contest.
I know I would ask the question of how this all came about if I was there. What do I have to lose? Nothing.
I'm wondering if USCwannabe is going to be at SDCC?
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I'm guessing that there will be some sort of Q&A if only for some sort of promotional thing....and they won't let Colman in. ;D
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How interesting would it be for Colman and uscwannabe to both be there? Knowing Lucasfilm, they've probably got security looking out for Tommy, just to make sure he doesn't get in...
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I'm wondering if USCwannabe is going to be at SDCC?
He will be, actually--but not at the SDCC you're thinking of.
USCWannabe is currently being held for "re-education" at the San Dimas Correctional Center for an indeterminate length of time.
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Has there been an officical announcement scheduled for SDCC?
I'm thinking they'll be an announcement but no opportunity to ask questions about the contest.
Back when this whole contest started, they stated the president would be brought out on stage at Comic Con during the Star Wars presentation. That presentation has always allowed Q&A, usually moderated by Sansweet.
Personally...I STILL don't think this is a big deal, but I'm not going to lie.....if I was there, I would totally enjoy someone actually asking the questions we keep hearing all over the internet to the man himself. It would be cool if they'd just answer it and put all this bitching to bed.
USCWannabe is currently being held for "re-education" at the San Dimas Correctional Center for an indeterminate length of time.
Jail? Really?
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Jail? Really?
It was a joke. You get it? "Re-Education"?
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Jail? Really?
Yes, Josh. Really.
It's kinda like if you make a death threat on the president--from then on, whenever a president comes to your town, you have to be locked up until he leaves town. That type of deal.
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It was a joke. You get it? "Re-Education"?
No, sorry...I didn't get it. I thought you were implying you had some sort of knowledge he went to jail. I assume "re-education" is a term from a movie I can't think of right now.
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BTW....MaxWedge just called me and was talking about the con. He says Dustin was introduced last night at the fan film awards and got to present one of the films.
He says no boos, but there was lackluster applause for anything at all involving the fan club or hyperspace.
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Did anyone even know that he was going to be presenting a film? I've been waiting for word on where his appearance was made, and what exactly he did... Bummer... I was looking forward to the hearing about Tommy's question/comment to the Runner-up.
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BTW....MaxWedge just called me and was talking about the con. He says Dustin was introduced last night at the fan film awards and got to present one of the films.
He says no boos, but there was lackluster applause for anything at all involving the fan club or hyperspace.
A bunch of us were at the Sansweet presentation. That's where we were expecting the announcement. There would have been boo's if he would have been brought on stage there.
We had no idea what so ever that he'd be brought on stage for the films, none of us were there.
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I couldn't for the life of me ever figure out where the announcement was going to be made. I figured it was going to be at Spectacular (with 6,000 people in attendance), so I was at least ready to boo heartily, and probably shout some protests out, or ask Sansweet in the subsequent Q & A, but alas, nothing ever happened there.
So I just assumed he was going to get introduced at the Fan Club Breakfast on Saturday morning, which none of us paid money to go to, in which case it would've been a moot point. I had NO IDEA, nor did I ever hear a single peep, about the Fan Film awards announcement. ****. I wasn't even in town yet... >:(
I did talk to a number of people around the Con who were all asking similar questions about WTF happened, but unfortunately, we weren't able to gather any answers. Sorry folks!
BTW, check out mousedroid's cool T-shirt:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2006/General/DSC09961.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2006/General/DSC09962.jpg)
Too funny, Rog'. 8)
(I want one!)
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Classic... :) That alone deserves a round of applause.
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So was there no JD meeting of sorts? :o
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So was there no JD meeting of sorts? :o
Many of us hung out throughout the Con (heck, 6 of us stayed in one room), but the Official JD/GH Hooters party unfortunately got nixed, if that's what you were referring to. We went there for lunch a couple times, but didn't snap any pix, sorry to say. We did go out Friday night though, but just to some other places instead, and were still joined by Roger/mousedroid of GH, so that was cool. Always fun hanging out with the crew, regardless of the wheres and whens (or lack of pix). 8)
Not really sure what this has to do with the Fan Club Presidency though... ???
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Well....
In an attempt to link it up...You could've shot some pics of him like you did of Phil at C3. Priceless. :P
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I find it odd that they focused so much on putting their own mugs in each SDCC pic this year. I know they didn't in the past because I'd never even seen what 75% of the RS staff looked like until now and I've visited the site daily for years.
Seems like the Dustin thing is their first step at becoming SW "celebrities." ::)
This one just makes me ill to look at.
(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc06/sdcc06-OP/IMG_0899.JPG)
What a goofball looking dude he is...
I also seem to suspect they moved Dustins announcement to somewhere more "unannounced" because they were worried a backlash was coming. ;)
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We've got a creepy guy like that in our town too...always hangin' around in the background trying to look important.
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We've got a creepy guy like that in our town too...
WTF?
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You're one of a handful of people in the entire world who won the exclusive Rayrob t-shirt; is that not enough? Some people. Sheesh.
It's here!
(http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/photos/tn_rayrobshirt.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/photos/rayrobshirt.jpg)
clicky for larger picture!
I'll treasure my RayRob Shirt forever... I haven't even taken it out of the package yet for fear of lowering it's value. (http://www.cheesebuerger.net/images/smilie/frech/h055.gif)
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I'll treasure my RayRob Shirt forever... I haven't even taken it out of the package yet for fear of lowering it's value. (http://www.cheesebuerger.net/images/smilie/frech/h055.gif)
I would keep it sealed & sent it off to the AFA for grading! :D
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Oh come on....you know you're gonna wear it to C4 and have the FC President sign in. :-*
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Oh come on....you know you're gonna wear it to C4 and have the FC President sign in. :-*
Or, you could send it to me, and I could have the "original" (as of 'vote' closing) Fan Club President sign it for you... 8)
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I'm going to respond to your post from the Rebelscum thread over here, because the conversation that will ensue probably belongs in this thread:
As for my lunch with Tommy (uscwannabe), it did indeed happen last week. We got together and shot the **** for about 3 hours, and chatted about a number of different topics, including the Fan Club Presidency, of course. From what Tommy told me, it doesn't sound like he broke any of the rules for the contest, but that perhaps the rules were "ammended" after the contest ended, or the fine print was altered, to bring about his DQ on a technicality. Whether someone lobbied for that to happen, or the Fan Club or LFL higher-ups preferred Dustin due to the relationship they already had with him/Phillip/RS/TFn/Official Pix, I can't say for sure. Still totally shady, and since there's now ongoing litigation into the matter, the details unfortunately can't be discussed yet.
But at least the Fan Club was courteous enough to ask Tommy for his address so they could send him the awesome consolation T-shirt prize...
So there's litigation surrounding it? Wow. I can't wait to hear more about this. Did he actually tell you what the reason for his DQ was, and if so....does it sound like a bogus reason?
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So, you didn't "recruit" enough
sheep fans in the Hyperspace "We Need Money" "Fan Club President" contest, but you still want the shirt?
Then you can get "it" on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Fan-Club-Bounty-Collected-Exclusive-T-Shirt_W0QQitemZ300015827243QQihZ020QQcategoryZ99967QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)!
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So, you didn't "recruit" enough sheep fans in the Hyperspace "We Need Money" "Fan Club President" contest, but you still want the shirt?
Then you can get "it" on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Fan-Club-Bounty-Collected-Exclusive-T-Shirt_W0QQitemZ300015827243QQihZ020QQcategoryZ99967QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)!
Rayrob's wife was running for Fan Club President?!
???
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Good God....WHY?
Is that really Tom's wife's account again?
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I'm curious to hear how the litigation will unfold. Of course you won't hear about it on Rebelscum. ::)
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A scant $200 for a T-Shirt... Very nice. Maybe he'll start a line of super-exclusive-hard-to-find-RayRob-Rubbers too, with art of... I dunno, IG-88's head on it unfolded? $100 regular, $200 for Magnums.
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A scant $200 for a T-Shirt... Very nice. Maybe he'll start a line of super-exclusive-hard-to-find-RayRob-Rubbers too, with art of... I dunno, IG-88's head on it unfolded? $100 regular, $200 for Magnums.
The older you get...the grosser you get. :-X
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yeah....like you wouldn't roll on an ig-88 in a heartbeat.
I want a Jabba. ;D
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(http://www.toysrgus.com/images-misc/starcondoms.jpg)
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Awww ****. >:( That was a good idea too... Well so much for that.
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So, you didn't "recruit" enough sheep fans in the Hyperspace "We Need Money" "Fan Club President" contest, but you still want the shirt?
Then you can get "it" on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Fan-Club-Bounty-Collected-Exclusive-T-Shirt_W0QQitemZ300015827243QQihZ020QQcategoryZ99967QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)!
Well I offered $20 bucks for it and got this response... "$20 dollars for the most rare item produced?"
Oooooo that must me it's more rare than a Vintage Rocket Firing Fett be right back I gotta go waste 200 bucks on a shirt. ::)
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;D
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Well I offered $20 bucks for it and got this response... "$20 dollars for the most rare item produced?"
Oooooo that must me it's more rare than a Vintage Rocket Firing Fett be right back I gotta go waste 200 bucks on a shirt. ::)
There probably are more Rocket Fetts than these T-shirts. They produced more Fett protos than just about any other Vintage proto because of all the various stages is went through before they eliminated the rocket. But just because something is rare doesn't make it valuable.
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I have a turd shaped like Jesus and I can't get a nickle for the thing no matter how many times I put it up on Ebay. Dagnabbit.
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I have a turd shaped like Jesus and I can't get a nickle for the thing no matter how many times I put it up on Ebay. Dagnabbit.
Goldenpalace.com (http://www.goldenpalace.com/welcome.php) must not be looking hard or they all ready have one! ::)
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I have a turd shaped like Jesus and I can't get a nickle for the thing no matter how many times I put it up on Ebay.
Send it to AFA.
If it grades 85 or higher you should have no problem shifting it.
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If it grades 85 or higher you should have no problem shifting it.
You mean "passing it along"?
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If it grades 85 or higher you should have no problem shifting it.
You mean "passing it along"?
If you do decide to go that way, I hope everything comes out okay. :P
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Well I offered $20 bucks for it and got this response... "$20 dollars for the most rare item produced?"
Oooooo that must me it's more rare than a Vintage Rocket Firing Fett be right back I gotta go waste 200 bucks on a shirt. ::)
There probably are more Rocket Fetts than these T-shirts. They produced more Fett protos than just about any other Vintage proto because of all the various stages is went through before they eliminated the rocket. But just because something is rare doesn't make it valuable.
And just because something is rare today doesn't mean SWS isn't going to mass-market them at C4 to make a quick $1000.
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(http://tinypic.com/8whxf6.jpg)
I like this one, too:
(http://tapes.ieattapes.com/uploads/Bush_O_RLY.jpg)
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And just because something is rare today doesn't mean SWS isn't going to mass-market them at C4 to make a quick $1000.
So, you're saying I should eBay my shirt sooner rather than later? ???
I hope it gets back from AFA in time to cash in...
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I made an offer of $35.05 (an even $40 with shipping) for the $200 shirt. My offer was not accepted, but the seller made a counter offer of $60 (plus shipping, presumably), so if anyone really wants it...
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You can buy the prizes just like the election... nice.
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First the Fan Club presidency, next stop, Revenge of the Nerds:
http://www.jumpcut.com/view?id=4FAA8DD61A6E11DB8587F64154DE9F6D+
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Glad I only have two eyes to poke out because that was horrible.
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"Revenge of the Nerds: White Men Can't Dance" coming to theater somewhere.