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Title: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 10, 2008, 02:27 PM
League ID: 8032
Password: berry

Lemme know if youse gots issues.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on June 10, 2008, 02:38 PM
Hey Morgbug, does this one work like the Fantasy Baseball league?  I haven't played in a football league yet, but I can't do worse than I'm doing in the Baseball league, right?!  Let me know if you have space and need another participant.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on June 10, 2008, 03:34 PM
As usual, I've got scoring changes to suggest.   :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 10, 2008, 04:26 PM
As usual, I've got scoring changes to suggest.   :-*

That's it, I'm deleting the league.   ::)

Heh, just kidding.  Get the suggestions out sooner rather than later.

Hey Morgbug, does this one work like the Fantasy Baseball league?  I haven't played in a football league yet, but I can't do worse than I'm doing in the Baseball league, right?!  Let me know if you have space and need another participant.

Different from Baseball in the sense that it is a head to head league, meaning each week you play against a different person and you have a weekly won-loss record.  Top 8 teams (of 12) make the playoffs. 

You score points based on yards (rushing/passing), TDs, FG, converts and an assortment of other points all add up to your weekly total.  You might win one week by scoring 35 points and lose the next when you score 85, it all depends on who you play in a given week and how many points their guys score on that team. 

As more questions if something isn't clear.  By all means, join up if you want to play, it's first come, first served.  We have an assortment of regulars, but always seem to have a space or two to spare. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on June 10, 2008, 05:13 PM
I'll get them in real soon.  Some of the other leagues I've been in have done half a point per carry or catch, then a point for every 10 yards for RB's and WR's.

It puts more emphasis on overall production and less on getting lucky with TD's.  You get higher scores this way, but it's all relative.

I think it's worth a look and I'll throw a proposed set of numbers out soon.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on June 10, 2008, 05:17 PM
I joined as the Zissou Mighty Muggs :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on June 10, 2008, 05:27 PM
I signed up, and let Marin know to do the same.  I'm not sure if her Dad will want to play again this year but I invited him.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 10, 2008, 06:26 PM
In.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on June 11, 2008, 12:43 AM

Lemme know if youse gots issues.

Oh, I've got issues...oh wait, you were referring to the league and scoring...  ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on June 27, 2008, 03:11 AM
The 2007 Champion is ready to defend his crown. :P
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 18, 2008, 08:11 AM
Remy's Raiders are signed in.   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on July 18, 2008, 11:18 AM
And the league is now full. 

Still waiting on Rob's whining suggestions.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on July 18, 2008, 12:18 PM
I'm running a different league, and it looks about like this:

Passing Yards (50 yards per point; 1 point at 300 yards)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-1)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point; 1 point at 100 yards)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point; 1 point at 100 yards)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-1)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (1)
Fumble Recovery (1)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (6)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (3)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (1)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (0)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (0)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-1)



It's not all that different, but the idea is to deemphasize touchdowns and add a little emphasis on yards - which I like.  Touchdowns are still huge, but it's a little more balanced IMO. 

I've also played in leagues where you get something like 0.25 points per carry or catch, which really makes yards and carries and catches much more important....



Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 18, 2008, 02:45 PM
Quit your pissing and moaning Rob.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on July 18, 2008, 02:52 PM
Brent already made that crack, but thanks.

There's no whining associated with it, I just think it would be fun to expand the scoring and try something different than we do every year.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on July 18, 2008, 03:22 PM
And I used a suitable smilie with it too. 

I'm open to changes, but it's up to the league to decide, not me. 

For: Rob

Against: Dressel

Anyone else care to put forth an opinion?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 30, 2008, 09:54 PM
A couple of significant transactions in the past couple of days.

Jason Taylor (Miami Dolphins - DE) gets traded to the Washington Redskins.  I'm sure he's happy to be playing anywhere other than that cesspool that Miami has become.  I don't know if even Bill Parcells in the front office can save that team.

Jeremy Shockey (NY Giants - TE) gets traded to the New Orleans Saints for a couple of draft picks.  Honestly, I was expecting this a little sooner.  Especially with training camp opening at the end of the week.  Shockey wasn't enough of a team guy and it showed.  He became too much of a distraction and seemed to be second-guessing Eli Manning.  His productivity wasn't spectacular.  And Manning seemed more comfortable with rookie Kevin Boss at the TE position.  This really seems like a case of addition by subtraction by the Giants.

That's a major hit to Shockey's fantasy value in my opinion.  Speaking of which, where do people net out on Tight Ends this year?  Gates has far and away led the pack the past few years, but I'm seeing him ranked #2 or #3 in a lot of mock drafts so far...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 30, 2008, 09:57 PM
And I used a suitable smilie with it too. 

I'm open to changes, but it's up to the league to decide, not me. 

For: Rob

Against: Dressel

Anyone else care to put forth an opinion?

I'm okay with any kind of scoring as long as its set and clear prior to the draft.  Just changes who I would draft and where.  Isn't this a moot discussion though?  I thought the Yahoo league had fixed scoring.  Can we customize it to match what Rob is proposing?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on July 30, 2008, 10:43 PM
Yup, customizable out the ying-yang and I'd like it decided at least a week before the draft. 
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: Morgbug on July 30, 2008, 10:45 PM
Ha,
You won't find this crew discussing a damn thing prior to the fantasy draft.  Mum's the word.   :P
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2008, 12:03 AM
In that case, here's what I'm okay with, what I have questions about, and what I'm not okay with...

Agree with the following...
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-1)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-1)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (1)
Fumble Recovery (1)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (6)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (3)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (1)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (0)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (0)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-1)

Need clarification these...assume you mean a bonus point at these milestones?
Passing Yards (50 yards per point; 1 point at 300 yards)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point; 1 point at 100 yards)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point; 1 point at 100 yards)
Return Touchdowns (6) - are we awarding points to just the Defense or individual player as well?  I.e if you have Devon Hester and the Bears Defense, do you get 12 points when he runs one back?

Disagree with these...I don't think you should lose points for missing a field goal.  This is too influenced by weather and strategy in my opionion and you're already losing an opportunity cost of 3 or more points.  That's punishment enough.
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)

I would say this highly deemphasizes TD - any starting RB can get 60 yards rushing.  What I like about it is that it equalizes the impact of a goal line back versus a workhorse back.  They both contribute to overall success, so this helps equalize their importance. 

I'm not a fan of point per reception leagues.  Adding this in makes scoring even more arbitrary and puts too much emphasis on skill positions.

I would also like to see a few more points awarded to defensive points allowed.  I think this is more fair than what's listed above:

Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (6)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (3)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-2)
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2008, 12:04 AM
I hear Shannon Sharpe is a hell of a tight end.  If you drafted him in the first and then look for Mike Vick in the second, you'd have a hell of an offense!
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2008, 12:09 AM
I hear Shannon Sharpe is a hell of a tight end.  If you drafted him in the first and then look for Mike Vick in the second, you'd have a hell of an offense!

Yeah yeah okay I get it - no more shop talk before the draft.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2008, 12:39 AM
Alright, if you insist.

One more freebie though - Jerry Rice is the best receiver, like ever!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2008, 12:42 AM
Yeah - those ones you're asking for clarification on would be a single bonus point for hitting certain milestones.  It's a small thing, but a fun difference maker on a rare occasion.

As for -1 for missed kicks, I'd be totally okay with doing away with that.  But we've got negative points for INT's and Fumbles, I always considered that the equivalent for kickers.  But I hate it when it happens to me, so if everyone wanted to get rid of it, I'd be alright with that.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2008, 07:40 AM
As for -1 for missed kicks, I'd be totally okay with doing away with that.  But we've got negative points for INT's and Fumbles, I always considered that the equivalent for kickers.  But I hate it when it happens to me, so if everyone wanted to get rid of it, I'd be alright with that.

I see where you're coming from, but its kind of an extra penalty as well.  We don't penalize RBs when they don't get any yardage on a carry or QB's for incomplete passes.  A missed FG is similar to these events in my opinion.  What say the rest of you?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2008, 07:41 AM
Alright, if you insist.

One more freebie though - Jerry Rice is the best receiver, like ever!

Ha!  Well I've heard that Tomlinson is pretty good, so I'm looking to pick him up first or second round if I can.   ;)
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2008, 10:19 AM
You'd be lucky to get Tomlinson with the 2nd pick.   :)

Unless Peterson becomes the flavor of the week at the right time, he'll be gone by then.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: Scott on July 31, 2008, 10:28 AM
In my league and maybe it is too late to do this now...but we always give the #1 pick to the guy who finished last last year sort of like the NFL and NBA etc...not that I'm opposed to the random deal but it gives hope to someone who got crapped on last year...Thoughts?
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2008, 11:36 AM
I could be wrong, but I don't think we can assign one spot and let the other ones be random.  I think we'd have to come up with our own draft order.

If it were a keeper league and we had the same 12 or 14 participants every single year I'd say let's go for it, but since it's not, I'd say we leave it random.
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: Scott on July 31, 2008, 12:22 PM
I could be wrong, but I don't think we can assign one spot and let the other ones be random.  I think we'd have to come up with our own draft order.

If it were a keeper league and we had the same 12 or 14 participants every single year I'd say let's go for it, but since it's not, I'd say we leave it random.
Oh, not just the first pick, its all 12 in order of finish (I realize my post implied just the first pick was predetermined

If new guys take the spots, that is random for who they took over for, or I've seen where they are tucked at the end of the 1st round in order they signed up etc
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2008, 01:37 PM
You'd be lucky to get Tomlinson with the 2nd pick.   :)

I know...that was the joke.   ;)
Title: Re: NFL Offseason 2008
Post by: JediJman on July 31, 2008, 01:41 PM
Oh, not just the first pick, its all 12 in order of finish (I realize my post implied just the first pick was predetermined

If new guys take the spots, that is random for who they took over for, or I've seen where they are tucked at the end of the 1st round in order they signed up etc

That's an interesting idea.  I'm in other leagues where we do this and another where its random.  Thing is - what if three guys drop out and they had the 1st, 6th, and 12 picks?  How do you assign the three newbies who replace them?  I'm with Rob - if it was a keeper league and you had the same guys year after year, I think this would make sense, but if teams are turning over fairly regualrly, random is the only fair way to do it.  I also don't think you can set up a rule like this for current year draft - it would have to apply to next year. Otherwise people who vote for it now are basing their votes on where they would end up drafting since we already know how people performed last year.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 4, 2008, 01:26 PM
What do the newbies need to do to get ready for the draft?

Do we pick the different players by position or are all the players just lumped together?

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on August 4, 2008, 11:15 PM
What do the newbies need to do to get ready for the draft?

Do we pick the different players by position or are all the players just lumped together?



All the players are lumped together. Be sure you have any/all research done prior to the draft, 'cause there isn't much time between picks.

Also, if we end up having Yahoo randomly select drafting order, you only find out soemthing like 10 minutes prior to the draft where exactly you are drafting - so be prepped to draft out of any spot.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 4, 2008, 11:58 PM
I think it's 30 minutes before draft time that you can log in and see the order.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 5, 2008, 12:37 AM
I think it's 30 minutes before draft time that you can log in and see the order.

Any way to have this figured out further in advance?  I'm all for surprises, but might help folks out if they know what position they are drafting in at least a day or two in advance...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 5, 2008, 12:47 AM
Nope, can't change that setting.  I think Yahoo's official statement is you only find out 15 minutes in advance, but Rob's correct that it is usually closer to 30 minutes or somewhere in between the two. 

Settings, settings, settings people.  Only Rob and Dressel picked a side.  No one else does, the standard settings we use go forward.  I'm not dicking around with them on the last day, so decide by August 15th.  M'kay? :-*  No vote means status quo. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on August 5, 2008, 06:38 AM
Here are my thoughts on the scoring:

I'd agree with the following stuff...
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (1)
Fumble Recovery (1)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Passing Yards (50 yards per point; 1 point at 300 yards)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point; 1 point at 100 yards)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point; 1 point at 100 yards)
Return Touchdowns (6)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)

I disagree with these...

Interception (-1)
Fumble (-1)
Passing TDs (4)

And I think that they should look like this:

Int (-2)
Fum (-2)
Passing TD (+6)

If we are going to be giving yardage bonuses than I think we need to up the turnover penalty a bit. In the case of a running back a fumble should cost more than just the point equivalent of 10 yards of rushing. If a back were to have 100 yds rushing with a TD, he would be getting 17 points. That's a pretty big score for one player for close to a typical days work for a good #1 back. If that player were to however have 3 fumbles lost that game as well they should lose more than just 3 points... Turnovers really hurt teams in game and I think we should be penalized for them too. I'd kind of like to see the value of Passing TDs raised up to +6 as well, but if no one else wants that I could live with them set at 4.

I liked JediJman's defensive scoring suggestion, but would tweak it a little bit:

Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (4)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (2)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-2)

I've played in a league where we had scoring like that, and I enjoyed it. A defense can have a great game in real life and completely shut the opposing team down, but if they don't get sacks, fumbles, or INTs we don't get squat for it.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 5, 2008, 05:35 PM
I'm okay with all of the above EXCEPT passing TDs at 6 points.  I don't think a passer should get as many points as a skill player for their TDs - just makes that position more valuable than the others and I'd rather see more equality.  If you want to raise the penalty on interceptions and fumbles to -2pts, I can live with that but would prefer -1.  Turnovers frequently result from the actions of a solid defense versus a player mistake, so I'd rather see a lower overall punishment. 

Brent - can you clarify what you want us to vote on?  I see Rob's scoring recos, but don't know how much this differs from current.  Since there is alignment on most of the scoring, maybe we should vote on a few different chunks of scoring options (QB/Skill vs. Kickers vs. Defenses as three separate votes for example) rather than an option A or B.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 5, 2008, 09:38 PM
When I proposed the new scoring idea, I crafted it in a way that I think is balanced with a little more credence given to overall production and a little less to straight touchdown production.  I didn't really intend a big discussion that dissects the proposal point for point. 

So unless some consensus magically evolves over the next day or two, I'll just vote to leave it alone too. :)

I'm also strongly against the idea of 6 points for a QB.  Tom Brady alone would have scored like 500 points last season if that were the case.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 6, 2008, 12:04 AM
IF that's the case, can somone list out the current/last year's scoring for comparison?  I might campaign for Rob's scoring depending on what you guys used last year.  :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 6, 2008, 12:07 AM
The current league settings should be the same as what we did last year.   :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on August 6, 2008, 11:14 PM

Settings, settings, settings people.  Only Rob and Dressel picked a side.  No one else does, the standard settings we use go forward.  I'm not dicking around with them on the last day, so decide by August 15th.  M'kay? :-*  No vote means status quo. 

I'm pretty much indifferent between the two scoring systems - all I'm really concerned with is having things set in time to work out my draft plan a bit ahead of time.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 6, 2008, 11:18 PM
The current league settings should be the same as what we did last year.   :)

Yeah, but I wasn't in the league last year.   :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 7, 2008, 10:45 PM
The current league settings should be the same as what we did last year.   :)

Yeah, but I wasn't in the league last year.   :-*

The settings posted are the same as last year.  Keeping the league name the same each year means you can just select the same settings as previously.  So looking at my post on page one with the settings or looking at the league settings on the yahoo page indicate the same thing as last year's settings.  Greetings from Fargo. :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 12, 2008, 08:11 PM
Three days until I set the scoring system. 

I am not opposed to changing the scoring a little to favor general production a bit more.  And I am not opposed to the negative points in the original scoring system, though I'd accept them being dropped to -0.5 (or is it already there  :P)

Any other comments?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 13, 2008, 05:46 PM
Three days until I set the scoring system. 

I am not opposed to changing the scoring a little to favor general production a bit more.  And I am not opposed to the negative points in the original scoring system, though I'd accept them being dropped to -0.5 (or is it already there  :P)

Any other comments?

I finally got on to the site and checked out current scoring.  Not sure how you would have folks vote on this, but I'd be in favor of getting rid of the -1 for missed kicks.  Everything else is fine with me.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 14, 2008, 12:08 AM
Well, for the FG stuff I see three options:

leave it as it is.
drop the penalty to -0.5 points instead of -1.0
only have the penalty for shorter field goals, say under 40 yards? 

From Rob's stuff I'm ok with the yardage changes if you guys want to go that way:
Passing Yards (50 yards per point; 1 point at 300 yards)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point; 1 point at 100 yards)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point; 1 point at 100 yards)

I'd like to leave the TDs as they are for receiving/rushing/passing if we can, which I guess is what Rob said anyway.  I don't know that the changes will do all that much other than bump up scores overall.  I guess if you get stuck with a non-red zone RB/WR you can still score points if they rack up just yards though. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 14, 2008, 12:56 AM
I'm okay with all of that.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 14, 2008, 04:33 PM
Who collects the money?

 ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 14, 2008, 05:41 PM
Who collects the money?

 ;)

Usually the winner and since this is football, that means not me. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 14, 2008, 05:57 PM
I'll collect the money.

But I don't promise to disperse it after the season ends.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 14, 2008, 06:07 PM
I'll collect the money.

But I don't promise to disperse it after the season ends.

What's the entry fee and what are the payouts?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 14, 2008, 06:18 PM
We don't actually play for money in this league.  He was just joking around.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 15, 2008, 05:08 PM
We don't actually play for money in this league.  He was just joking around.


Ahhhh.  Good to be the noob.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2008, 09:33 AM
OK
I did slightly modify the stat categories, though nothing too drastic.  Here they are for this season:

Stat Categories: Passing Yards (75 yards per point; 1 points at 300 yards)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-1)
Rushing Yards (15 yards per point; 1 points at 100 yards)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (15 yards per point; 1 points at 100 yards)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (0)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (1)
Fumble Recovery (1)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (6)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (0)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (0)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (0)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (0)
Points Allowed 35+ points (0) 
Fractional Points: Yes 
Negative Points: Yes 


Only three changes total.  I eliminated the penalty for missing a field goal of 40 yards or longer.  And I changed the point accumulation for rushing and receiving yards from 1 point per 25 yards down to 1 point per 15 yards.  Not quite as heavily weighted as Rob's suggestion, but more of a reward for the non-red zone guys.  Draft accordingly. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2008, 03:59 PM
Bumping back to top of sports forum.  LOOK AT THE CHANGES. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on August 18, 2008, 04:01 PM
Looks fine to me. When is the draft again?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 18, 2008, 04:53 PM
Good compromises commish!

Ryan - we draft on the 20th.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 18, 2008, 05:29 PM
When did the draft date change?

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 18, 2008, 09:32 PM
Hasn't it always been for Wednesday?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2008, 09:43 PM
When did the draft date change?



Technically the draft date did change, but it changed about 2 months ago or so.  It has always been on a Wednesday (as all JD drafts now seem to be) but when I registered the league I could only get an early August date, which I don't think anyone wanted.  I wanted to move it later into August so we could see most of the preseason and when I moved it, the latest date was this Wednesday.  I think maybe some later dates might have come available, but I wasn't really looking.  And I didn't really want to change it a second time. 

So yeah, the draft is this Wednesday at 8:30 PM Central. 

edit: Huh, I thought I'd posted the draft stuff in here, but I guess not.  Sorry.  I wonder if I posted in the NFL thread instead?  I don't think I can move the draft, everything's pretty much full.  Anyone else surprised by this other than ruiner? (again, sorry about that)

edit2:  apparently that change of date was one hell of a conversation inside my own, lonely head.  How the hell did everyone else know the draft was this Wednesday?  Jeezus, I really am losing it. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 19, 2008, 08:13 AM
The draft date can be found when you log into yahoo.  At one time it was scheduled for last night.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 19, 2008, 10:25 AM
That must have been a long time ago, because I set up another league for another forum that I use and I have it set up for tonight, and I did that so that it would be before this one.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 19, 2008, 01:46 PM
edit2:  apparently that change of date was one hell of a conversation inside my own, lonely head.  How the hell did everyone else know the draft was this Wednesday?  Jeezus, I really am losing it. 

I think you posted the notice to join up along with league ID and password.  When you sign up, the site tells you the draft time and date - that's how I recall it anyway.  I have had it on the calendar as tomorrow night at 8:30 for the last month or so, so no conflict here.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 19, 2008, 02:20 PM
I must be losing it then.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 19, 2008, 06:00 PM
I must be losing it then.

You and every other Bears fan.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on August 19, 2008, 06:07 PM
i will be in air on a plane at the draft time. i've set pre ranks and i'll check in after i land :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 20, 2008, 08:27 AM
i will be in air on a plane at the draft time. i've set pre ranks and i'll check in after i land :)

Ugh - I could never draft that way.  Congrats on your 5 Tight ends.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 20, 2008, 10:17 AM
The auto-draft system factors in who's already on your team before it makes your pick.  You won't get a second TE until all the other starting spots are filled.

Maybe it means you draft a kicker higher than you'd like though, not sure how that works.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 20, 2008, 10:46 AM
The auto draft system works by filling all your slots for your team prior to picking bench players.  But if you rank 50 running backs first and at least three are available through the first three rounds, you'd get the best available running back with the first three draft picks the auto-draft makes (2 RB and would fill the W/R slot). 

Auto-draft then goes on to fill the other slots according to whatever ranking you have.  If the next highest ranked player available when autodraft selects is a TE, then you'll get a TE.  If it is a QB, then a QB and so on. 

Once any particular slot is full though, it goes on to combine the "need" with the ranking, so if a QB you wanted was ranked highly (say Philip Rivers) but was already selected and the next highest player you had ranked was Lamont Jordan and you still had an RB position empty, it would take Jordan rather than another QB.  It's searching to fill your needs but match your rankings too. 

But the likely draft routine would go RB/WR/QB/WR/RB and WR or RB to fill the first six slots, assuming someone's rankings are fairly normal and the players are available.  What gets picked where depends on who is available and ranked higher at any position. 

It's not all bad sometimes to be honest.  The draft is a crapshoot no matter what, especially once you're into the season and injuries factor in.  And Dressel's comments about the timing of the playoffs from last year become relevant too.  I autodrafted only once, the first year I played, over in the spawn board.  I got first pick, had LT, but also ended up with Rudi Johnson, Chad Johnson and a bunch of other studs.  I finished first and lost the first round of the playoffs, won the consolation by huge margins. 

I wouldn't want to do it, but the results aren't horrible necessarily.  Sometimes they work out pretty good.  But yeah, Theo will draft a kicker probably before the rest of us.  Probably a D before most and probably a TE earlier as well.  Otherwise it won't change too much.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 20, 2008, 12:56 PM
Okay, but couldn't it fill in all your starting spots, then conceviably draft you multiple bench tight ends if those were the next highest on your board?  Do we have roster limits by position?

Speaking of which, how many guys on the total roster and what is the starting lineup?  Assuming its something like this:

1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 RB/WR Flex
1 TE
1 Kicker
1 Def

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 20, 2008, 01:00 PM
Yep - plus a bunch of bench spots.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 20, 2008, 01:03 PM
So 9 starters and maybe 6 bench spots?

Can we use a TE as our flex position?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 20, 2008, 01:17 PM
I think we have 7 or 8 bench spots, but you'll want to check the league settings to be sure.  TE's can't be plugged in at the flex position.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 20, 2008, 02:07 PM
I think we have 7 or 8 bench spots, but you'll want to check the league settings to be sure.  TE's can't be plugged in at the flex position.

I looked all over the site and settings - can't find the # of draft rounds.  I guess we'll find out tonight!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on August 20, 2008, 02:50 PM
i will be in air on a plane at the draft time. i've set pre ranks and i'll check in after i land :)

Ugh - I could never draft that way.  Congrats on your 5 Tight ends.

lol yeah hope not :) i set up around the first 75 rankings so hopefully that will take care of most the important stuff. got about 4 hours to waste here in the airport, i just got unlucky with my flight time today :/ Good luck in the draft everyone! :) I hope i get the #1 pick :p
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 20, 2008, 03:23 PM
I think we have 7 or 8 bench spots, but you'll want to check the league settings to be sure.  TE's can't be plugged in at the flex position.

I looked all over the site and settings - can't find the # of draft rounds.  I guess we'll find out tonight!

16 rounds

9 starters (RB,RB,WR,WR,W/R,TE,K,D,QB) and 7 Bench.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 20, 2008, 05:07 PM
Just so I'm 100% clear, the draft is 8:30 Central time right?  9:30 eastern?

I won't be home until probably 8:00 central, so if it's actually 8:30 eastern I'll have to alter some plans...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 20, 2008, 05:26 PM
Central is correct Rob.  A bit early on the west side, but late by the end for the east coasters. 

With respect to getting 5 TEs after filling out the starting positions - if you're crazy enough to slot that many TEs at that point in the rankings, you deserve what you get, right? 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 20, 2008, 08:50 PM
Anyone able to get into the draft room yet?  I know the order isn't set until 30 min before, but thought they would have the draft room available ahead of time.  Maybe they can't set it up until the order is set...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on August 21, 2008, 01:01 PM
well a few guys i might of not taken, but overall a pretty good draft . pretty cool to get AP at #3
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 21, 2008, 04:15 PM
well a few guys i might of not taken, but overall a pretty good draft . pretty cool to get AP at #3

Not bad but you should have drafted Terrell Owens.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 21, 2008, 06:39 PM
T.O. at #3 overall instead of Adrian Peterson?

You're kidding right?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 21, 2008, 09:19 PM
T.O. at #3 overall instead of Adrian Peterson?

You're kidding right?

Yes, he's kidding.  AP at #3 was a nice gift - I can't believe Brady went #2. 

I took a big gamble taking Moss at #5, since RBs dried up quick.  If he gets anywhere close to 75% of last year's numbers and any of my chancy RBs pan out, I should do well.  Old Cocky is in a similar position - not much for RBs, but pretty solid everywhere else.  I like Brent's team and whoever the Terrorist guys are.  Dressel's team would be a contender if this were 2006. 

Theo, your team was looking solid until you drafted Deshawn Jackson in the 4th round. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 21, 2008, 10:06 PM
Yes, he's kidding.  AP at #3 was a nice gift - I can't believe Brady went #2. 

I think you might be underestimating his man love for T.O.

I took a big gamble taking Moss at #5, since RBs dried up quick. 

The same thing happened to me in my other league - I picked 5th and Peterson, Tomlinson, Addai, and Westbrook were all gone...I ended up with Moss over Jackson or Brady.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on August 21, 2008, 10:23 PM
Lot of good teams out there - heck, the teams that were on autopick aren't too shabby either.

I haven't logged in to see if Scott has dropped the Packers D yet though... :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 21, 2008, 11:25 PM
Nope, Scott is still a traitor. 

Very interesting draft all around.  Lots of surprises and lots of folks not afraid to gamble and reach for certain guys.  Should be a very interesting year. 

That damn Brady pick confused the hell out of me.  Not saying it was bad, I just thought it was going to go LT/AP/BW and I'd end up with Addai.  I'd been thinking that since I logged in and was looking at bye weeks for Indy and the whole thing.  So I was set and ready for that and all of a sudden I had to decide between Westbrook and Addai.  That was tough for me. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 21, 2008, 11:29 PM
all of a sudden I had to decide between Westbrook and Addai.  That was tough for me. 


If it's any consolation, your pick made me very happy. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 22, 2008, 03:58 AM
  Dressel's team would be a contender if this were 2006. 


Hey what's up newbie.  Fact check for you - 5 fantasy titles, and I'm always a contender.

But unlike basketball and baseball, this football game is ruled by 2 things first and foremost: injuries and luck.

The luckiest uninjured team has the edge, and none of us know who that's gonna be yet.  And not to put emphasis on "luck" more than "injuries," but in last year's Super Bowl, my team of Plaxico Burress, Reggie Wayne, Steven Jackson, Jamal Lewis, Antoni Gates, and Chicago D was beaten by Chris Redman and Pierre Thomas.

Having said that, if you think that your team has an edge over my team to the point where you proclaim that my team would only be good if it was 2006, you definitely don't know what's going on.  My team can drop 100 on your ass on any given Sunday, chief.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 22, 2008, 04:03 AM
Yes, he's kidding.  AP at #3 was a nice gift - I can't believe Brady went #2. 

I think you might be underestimating his man love for T.O.


I will just say this.  Forget the conventional wisdom for a second.  Owens and A-Pete put up comparable numbers last year.  Just about the same fantasy points.  As a matter of fact, Owens ranked 7th in fantasy points scored and Peterson below him at 8th.  The Vikings already said that they're looking to keep A-Pete fresh and spell him with 200 touches from Chester Taylor.  So A-Pete is not Tomlinson, he's not Westbrook, and he's not even Jamal Lewis in my opinion.  He's in a time share.

Talent-wise, Owens has every bit of a chance to outscore A-Pete, and not for nothin' but Larry Johnson who I got at pick 13 has got the same chance to outscore Peterson that Owens does.

We'll see how it unfolds.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 22, 2008, 08:35 AM

That damn Brady pick confused the hell out of me.  Not saying it was bad, I just thought it was going to go LT/AP/BW and I'd end up with Addai. 

Yeah, that was me - should have picked a RB with that #2 pick but I thought I'd mix things up and go with Brady.

Anything can happen.  I like the way NE runs their organization, it's a business to them - they're dedicated and I think they're still pissed from last year.



Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on August 22, 2008, 10:44 AM
Figures I get the first overall pick and I have to miss the damn draft... ::)

Oh well, the computer seems to have done a decent job, I'm not sure I really needed two Defences, two kickers, and two TEs though. I may be interested doing some preseason trading, so if anyone sees anyone on my team that interests you shoot me an offer. I'd even consider trading LT for the right offer...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 22, 2008, 10:52 AM
But unlike basketball and baseball, this football game is ruled by 2 things first and foremost: injuries and luck.

I'll second that one.  Last year for me was a perfect example.  I lucked my way into Randy Moss and Tony Romo in the 5th and 6th (I think) rounds.  Then I bad-lucked my way out of a championship when the 8 seed beat me in the first week of the playoffs.  That week my team scored enough points to beat every other team in the playoffs, but I was done.  And the next two weeks my team scored enough points to have dominated all the way to the championship, but it didn't make a bit of difference and I finished 5th.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 22, 2008, 10:55 AM
I will just say this.  Forget the conventional wisdom for a second.  Owens and A-Pete put up comparable numbers last year.  Just about the same fantasy points.  As a matter of fact, Owens ranked 7th in fantasy points scored and Peterson below him at 8th.  The Vikings already said that they're looking to keep A-Pete fresh and spell him with 200 touches from Chester Taylor.  So A-Pete is not Tomlinson, he's not Westbrook, and he's not even Jamal Lewis in my opinion.  He's in a time share.

Talent-wise, Owens has every bit of a chance to outscore A-Pete, and not for nothin' but Larry Johnson who I got at pick 13 has got the same chance to outscore Peterson that Owens does.

We'll see how it unfolds.

Indeed - but two things to remember.  There are a few other receivers who are near T.O. in terms of production who are available later than 3rd over all.  Fitzgerald, Moss and a few others come to mind. 

Additionally, Peterson missed 3 (4?) games last year en route to numbers that were about the same as T.O.'s.

Lastly, Anquan Boldin is looking for a trade and the reports here were that Jerry Jones was on the phone inquiring.  If he gets it in his head that he wants Boldin, it'll happen.  It's no where near a done deal, but it's on the radar and could get interesting in the next couple of weeks.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 22, 2008, 10:57 AM
  Dressel's team would be a contender if this were 2006. 


Hey what's up newbie.  Fact check for you - 5 fantasy titles, and I'm always a contender.

But unlike basketball and baseball, this football game is ruled by 2 things first and foremost: injuries and luck.

The luckiest uninjured team has the edge, and none of us know who that's gonna be yet.  And not to put emphasis on "luck" more than "injuries," but in last year's Super Bowl, my team of Plaxico Burress, Reggie Wayne, Steven Jackson, Jamal Lewis, Antoni Gates, and Chicago D was beaten by Chris Redman and Pierre Thomas.

Having said that, if you think that your team has an edge over my team to the point where you proclaim that my team would only be good if it was 2006, you definitely don't know what's going on.  My team can drop 100 on your ass on any given Sunday, chief.

If you have 5 fantasy titles drafting against guys who take Desean Jackson in the 4th round, then I'm not real impressed Dresser.  Moss if going to run circles around Owens this year, so I'm not sure how think you're going to get past my team this year.  R. Bush, L. Johnson, Roy Williams...those guys are all on the way down, not the way up.  Dallas is not going to have 11 TDs again - those TDs are going to A. Gonzales in 08, so I guess you think Coles and Kevin Smith are going to have a big year?

Between Matt Forte and R. Moss, I've got about 40 TDs coming your way, so unless I decide to bench the rest of my squad, you'd better be planning on second place or worse this year.  

Ahhh...smack talk is the best part of FFL and I need to get in as much as I can before my team really starts to stink it up.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 22, 2008, 11:45 AM
Reggie Bush flat out sucked last year.  He's sucked in the preseason and he's going to suck again this year.

Deuce will be getting most of the carries by week 4.

And then his knees will probably blow out around week 8.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 22, 2008, 12:02 PM
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Between Matt Forte and R. Moss, I've got about 40 TDs coming your way, so unless I decide to bench the rest of my squad, you'd better be planning on second place or worse this year. 

High hopes for Forte is a little premature IMO - the Bears have three backs they can use in Petersen, Jones and Forte.  I wouldn't be surprised if we see quite a bit of rotation between the three.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 22, 2008, 12:13 PM
Reggie Bush flat out sucked last year.  He's sucked in the preseason and he's going to suck again this year.

Deuce will be getting most of the carries by week 4.

And then his knees will probably blow out around week 8.



Rob, Bush had 1,000 yards rushing + receiving and 6 TD's in just 12 games last year.  That "sucks" for a high upside 4th round pick who's 23 years old?  If he played the other 4 games that's close to 1,300 yards and 8 TD's.

You're terribly mistaken about Deuce.  He's 30 and had 3 knee operations.

Thanks I'll put my 4th round money on Reggie Bush.  This could be the big breakout year.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on August 22, 2008, 12:18 PM

... this football game is ruled by 2 things first and foremost: injuries and luck.


Agreed.  And we never really know who's going to have a good year or a bad year with or without injuries.  You just never know.  I had Roy Williams last year.  He was a stud in the first four weeks and then disappeared.  I wouldn't want him again this year because of that, but he might score 12 TDs instead.  Can't say at this point.  I know I DID avoid guys that burned me in the past.  Maroney for example I have no love for.  NE can talk all they want about giving him the ball more, but I doubt it with the QB and receivers they have.  Besides Morris might poach all the TDs again and even stay healthy, or at least I hope so. 

Draft as best you can, then it's a crapshoot.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 22, 2008, 12:56 PM
Rob, Bush had 1,000 yards rushing + receiving and 6 TD's in just 12 games last year.  That "sucks" for a high upside 4th round pick who's 23 years old?  If he played the other 4 games that's close to 1,300 yards and 8 TD's.

You're terribly mistaken about Deuce.  He's 30 and had 3 knee operations.

Thanks I'll put my 4th round money on Reggie Bush.  This could be the big breakout year.

In the 4th you're right, it's worth a shot.  I drafted him 8 overall last year and he didn't come close to those expectations.  He was injured, and didn't start producing even the modest numbers you cited until McAllister disappeared.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 22, 2008, 12:57 PM
High hopes for Forte is a little premature IMO - the Bears have three backs they can use in Petersen, Jones and Forte.  I wouldn't be surprised if we see quite a bit of rotation between the three.

I steered clear of Forte because I kept reading that he's seemed lost all preseason.  I'm expecting Jones to be their guy at some point this season.  Who knows though... he's hardly a sure thing.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 22, 2008, 01:02 PM
There's a fourth option too but I don't think he'll play much this season.  I don't know much about Jones other than he had a serious knee? injury last year. 

Doesn't look good for the Bears this year with regards to offense OR defense.  SF scored 34 against them last night - I know it's preseason but I believe 23 out of those 34 points were in the 1st half - against 1st string defense.



Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on August 22, 2008, 01:27 PM
Maroney for example I have no love for. 

 :-[
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 22, 2008, 08:20 PM

If you have 5 fantasy titles drafting against guys who take Desean Jackson in the 4th round, then I'm not real impressed Dresser.  

We have always had a vast array of talent in these fantasy leagues of ours.  But I assure you, just because some guy who I never heard of and who's never been in one of our fantasy leagues before took DeSean Jackson in round 4, there is and was never a shortage of stiff competition.



Moss if going to run circles around Owens this year

I don't know about circles.  Flip a coin, it's a toss up.  Owens has been better than Moss a couple times.  Moss better than Owens a couple times.  Really depends on Romo and Brady too.



so I'm not sure how think you're going to get past my team this year. 

Because you suck.  And I get past almost every team almost every year.  That's how.



R. Bush, L. Johnson, Roy Williams...those guys are all on the way down, not the way up. 

Let's see, all on the way down?  23, 28, and 26 respectively.  No problems there. 

If Bush plays 16 games, he's good for 1,300 yards rushing PLUS receiving and 8 TDs.

Larry Johnson has EVERY chance to be THE best running back in the game this year.  He was GREAT 2 of the last 3 season, but not last year because he had a broken foot.  Watch out for LJ.  That's all I'm saying.

Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson both will be as good as John Kitna is good or bad.  But both are very reasonable locks for 1,200 yards and 6 to 10 TDs.  He's a very good WR2 so I don't know what your problem is there.



  Dallas is not going to have 11 TDs again - those TDs are going to A. Gonzales in 08,

Dude, seriously.  Who the hell knows.  Wayne could catch 20.  Clark could catch 10.  Gonzalez may catch 3.  Nobody knows.  Marvin Harrison looks healthy so don't be on Gonzalez just yet.



 so I guess you think Coles and Kevin Smith are going to have a big year?


Coles could be big with Favre throwing the bombs.  Come on, weren't you the one who told me how wrong I was that the Giants were going to get past the Pack last year in the NFC Championship game, touting the merits of Brett Favre?

Kevin Smith could be great or could suck, I don't know.  Looks like he beat out Tatum Bell for the starting job, so if Kevin Smith is my 3rd string RB, I'll be able to sleep at night.  I'll project a modest 900 yards and 7 TDs and hope for more.




Between Matt Forte and R. Moss, I've got about 40 TDs coming your way

Wait, what's a Matt Forte?  And I doubt you'll have 40 TDs if you combine your best 3 players.




Ahhh...smack talk is the best part of FFL and I need to get in as much as I can before my team really starts to stink it up.   ;)

Finally you're right about something.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on August 22, 2008, 08:43 PM
if i had live drafted i would of taken desean alot later. i thought i had him low enough in the rankings to get him around the 7th or 8th. :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on August 24, 2008, 11:43 PM
Dressel - you know I'm just giving you crap for fun, right? 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on August 25, 2008, 12:11 AM
It's a lot more fun if you give him crap for real though.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on August 25, 2008, 12:26 AM
And it is yet even more fun beating him a championship game with studs like Pierre Thomas and Chris Redman...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 29, 2008, 08:33 PM
Dressel - you know I'm just giving you crap for fun, right? 

Of course.  If it wasn't fun I'd have better things to do, and I wouldn't be here.

Here's looking forward to our regular season matchup!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 2, 2008, 10:18 AM
Okay, where's the "who's hot" section?  I lean on that thing a lot and can't find it for the life of me.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 2, 2008, 04:18 PM
Okay, where's the "who's hot" section?  I lean on that thing a lot and can't find it for the life of me.

Okay put your mouse cursor on "Research" and the 3rd one down is "who's hot" and the 5th is "mvp"s.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 2, 2008, 04:27 PM
Okay, I checked there and I checked Transaction Trends.  But all I'm seeing is advertisements for the stat tracker.  Do you guys see anything different or do they just not show that stuff until the regular season starts?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 2, 2008, 11:58 PM
Okay, I checked there and I checked Transaction Trends.  But all I'm seeing is advertisements for the stat tracker.  Do you guys see anything different or do they just not show that stuff until the regular season starts?

Sorry, all of the Who's Hot players are already on my team.   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 3, 2008, 06:32 AM
Okay, I checked there and I checked Transaction Trends.  But all I'm seeing is advertisements for the stat tracker.  Do you guys see anything different or do they just not show that stuff until the regular season starts?

Rob you're in the right spot - but you have to wait until some actual regular season games start, because those lists are formulated by analyzing which players appear most frequently on the 500 best Yahoo fantasy teams.  (The 500 teams that have the most distance between their first place status and the 2nd place team in their league)

The lists will probably fill out Tuesday morning.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 3, 2008, 06:33 AM
Okay, I checked there and I checked Transaction Trends.  But all I'm seeing is advertisements for the stat tracker.  Do you guys see anything different or do they just not show that stuff until the regular season starts?

Sorry, all of the Who's Hot players are already on my team.   ;D

This actually happened 2 years ago with my team, Rob posted an image somewhere.

EDIT:  Found it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Keys_to_Success.jpg)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 3, 2008, 09:55 AM
Rob you're in the right spot - but you have to wait until some actual regular season games start, because those lists are formulated by analyzing which players appear most frequently on the 500 best Yahoo fantasy teams.  (The 500 teams that have the most distance between their first place status and the 2nd place team in their league)

The lists will probably fill out Tuesday morning.

Weird, I thought those lists were formulated based on the number of teams adding and dropping a given player, and that they should apply in the pre-season too - like if a piece of news comes out that so-and-so is out for the year, everyone and their mother would be dropping him and adding his back-up.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 3, 2008, 09:56 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Keys_to_Success.jpg)

That was some freaky fantasy football voodoo type stuff right there.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 3, 2008, 05:12 PM
Bah, Colston was never a TE and Dressel knows it.   :P
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 5, 2008, 02:46 PM
Not doubting you here but A.) Why doesn't the wording at the bottom match up inside versus outside of your blck box and B.) Yawn.

Just looked at the site - are we using decimal scoring?  I've never seen that before...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 5, 2008, 03:03 PM
Yup, decimal scoring.  Wait until you lose by 0.2 points, it's a real blast.   :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 5, 2008, 03:53 PM
I'd rather do that than lose by 1 even point after some guy rushes for 9 yards that he doesn't get credit for because he didn't rush for the 10th.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 5, 2008, 04:40 PM
Not doubting you here but A.) Why doesn't the wording at the bottom match up inside versus outside of your blck box and B.) Yawn.



Not doubting that you're doubting but A.) I don't know, ask Rob, he's the one who created it and brought it to my attention and B.) I won the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 5, 2008, 05:00 PM
A)  I don't understand the question?  It's just a screen grab from Yahoo that year.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 5, 2008, 09:06 PM
Not doubting you here but A.) Why doesn't the wording at the bottom match up inside versus outside of your blck box and B.) Yawn.



Not doubting that you're doubting but A.) I don't know, ask Rob, he's the one who created it and brought it to my attention and B.) I won the Super Bowl.

Yeah yeah yeah.  Talk is cheap.  Let's see what you can do when you play me.

A)  I don't understand the question?  It's just a screen grab from Yahoo that year.

read along with the text at the bottom of the screen shot.  It doesn't synch up when you get to the part in the box.  I'm sure its real and could really care less if it is or isn't since I don't get what it means, but you could also photo shop a screen cap to look like that in under five minutes.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 5, 2008, 11:03 PM
Well you could, but that was Dressel's team.  LT with first pick, Colston off waivers, Holt might have been #2 pick and McNabb was actually pretty late.  Defense is defense, who knows where he took it (though I could look if I wanted to). 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 6, 2008, 01:08 AM
A)  I don't understand the question?  It's just a screen grab from Yahoo that year.

read along with the text at the bottom of the screen shot.  It doesn't synch up when you get to the part in the box.  I'm sure its real and could really care less if it is or isn't since I don't get what it means, but you could also photo shop a screen cap to look like that in under five minutes.   ;)

Yeah, I'm not sure what I did there - I probably copied something and accidentally made it bigger.  And you're absolutely right that I could Photoshop the hell out of it and do so a lot faster than 5 minutes, but I certainly wouldn't fake anything that would help my fantasy sports arch rival show how awesome his team was.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 7, 2008, 08:16 PM
Tom Brady most likely done for the year:

So says Rotoworld.com, via Michael Silver from Yahoo Sports. He most likely has a torn ACL plus cartilage and ligament damage.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 7, 2008, 10:20 PM
Looks like Favre will be my go to man for the rest of the year... :-\
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on September 7, 2008, 10:26 PM
Brady owners took a huge hit, but so did Moss and Maroney...not cool but I passed on both Moss and Brady in another league at pick 5 in another league, sure am glad I did that
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 7, 2008, 11:10 PM
Brady owners took a huge hit, but so did Moss and Maroney...not cool but I passed on both Moss and Brady in another league at pick 5 in another league, sure am glad I did that

Losing Brady sucks, but that's just another example of why you never take a QB in the first few rounds.  I wouldn't say that Maroney and Moss took huge hits - Moss had 116 yards and a TD, which would project to an 1800 yard season with 16 TDs...that's still first round material IMO.  And Maroney may get more use with Brady out (though looks like Sammy will be poaching TDs again this year).

I think the biggest surprises of the day were Willie Parker and Micheal Turner.  I avoided Parker, but managed to land Turner in a few leagues.  Actually the biggest surprise for me was CBS Sportsline posting an article most of the day that they were the one stop source to find out who is or is not starting on gameday, then featured a picture of McGahee stating he was starting.  Thanks guys!   ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on September 7, 2008, 11:30 PM
Brady owners took a huge hit, but so did Moss and Maroney...not cool but I passed on both Moss and Brady in another league at pick 5 in another league, sure am glad I did that

I managed to land Moss in the second round of another league - I figure there already was a discount on Moss due to the uncertainty of Brady's foot in the preseason.

I figure the bigger problem with Maroney's value going forward is Sammy Morris. He took a number of key carries away from Maroney today.


Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on September 7, 2008, 11:43 PM
yeah i took Maroney in my money league as a pretty late pick, around 50th overall. not feeling so good about that pick now. they look like they want to use a diffrent back every series. plus faulk is back next week :/
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 8, 2008, 12:04 AM
I figure the bigger problem with Maroney's value going forward is Sammy Morris. He took a number of key carries away from Maroney today.

Which is exactly what happened last year prior to Morris getting hurt.  He poached all the TDs in the first five games, same as I expect him to do again this year.  I had both last year.  And I can't believe how long this league let him sit out there in the draft. 

yeah i took Maroney in my money league as a pretty late pick, around 50th overall. not feeling so good about that pick now. they look like they want to use a diffrent back every series. plus faulk is back next week :/

Nope, they want to use Maroney to run the ball down the field (when they don't pass) and then use Morris to punch it in.  Faulk/Jordan are nothing but extra bits in the background.

Sorry, I suffered Maroney last year, no way was I picking him again.


I think the biggest surprises of the day were Willie Parker and Micheal Turner. 

I don't think Turner is a surprise at all.  Every opportunity he ever had at SD was awesome when they sat LT.  He averaged over 5 YPC in a backup roll.  The only and I mean only reason I didn't take him was because I already had two guys (Westbrook and MJD) with the same bye week as Turner. 

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on September 8, 2008, 08:31 AM
Brady owners took a huge hit, but so did Moss and Maroney...not cool but I passed on both Moss and Brady in another league at pick 5 in another league, sure am glad I did that

Losing Brady sucks, but that's just another example of why you never take a QB in the first few rounds.  I wouldn't say that Maroney and Moss took huge hits - Moss had 116 yards and a TD, which would project to an 1800 yard season with 16 TDs...that's still first round material IMO. 

Moss is ONLY 1st round material because of his QB and nothing else, no QB means less of a passing threat.  Sort of like his time in Oakland...hmmm?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 8, 2008, 09:20 AM

I think the biggest surprises of the day were Willie Parker and Micheal Turner. 


The rookie, Forte, didn't surprise you?

Third best RB performance of the day....
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on September 8, 2008, 09:45 AM


I don't think Turner is a surprise at all.  Every opportunity he ever had at SD was awesome when they sat LT.  He averaged over 5 YPC in a backup roll.  The only and I mean only reason I didn't take him was because I already had two guys (Westbrook and MJD) with the same bye week as Turner. 



And I'm very thankful the bye schedule worked out that way and that you passed on Turner.  :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 8, 2008, 09:52 AM
Don't go getting too excited about Turner just yet.  He may be awesome, but let's wait until they play against a real defense before we declare him the next coming of LT.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 8, 2008, 02:21 PM
Oh I don't think he's the next coming of LT, but I do think in next year's draft he'll be viewed as a very serviceable #2 RB.  Truthfully I was expecting to draft a WR with my  #2 pick, but the guys I really wanted went before it came back to me.  I wasn't about to risk Turner and leave MJD on the table.  But if he hadn't been a week 7 bye, I'd have gone RB-RB-RB instead. 

But yesterday really was an interesting day fantasy wise.  Lots of points from lots of funny places.  I'm also waiting to hear the fate of a couple of my guys with respect to injuries.  Nothing Brady like, but the word "knee" in football scares me as much as "hamstring" does in baseball. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 8, 2008, 06:12 PM
Brady owners took a huge hit, but so did Moss and Maroney...not cool but I passed on both Moss and Brady in another league at pick 5 in another league, sure am glad I did that

Losing Brady sucks, but that's just another example of why you never take a QB in the first few rounds.  I wouldn't say that Maroney and Moss took huge hits - Moss had 116 yards and a TD, which would project to an 1800 yard season with 16 TDs...that's still first round material IMO. 

Moss is ONLY 1st round material because of his QB and nothing else, no QB means less of a passing threat.  Sort of like his time in Oakland...hmmm?

Cleary you have an explanation for his 116 yards and TD with a lesser QB then...?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 8, 2008, 06:13 PM

I think the biggest surprises of the day were Willie Parker and Micheal Turner. 


The rookie, Forte, didn't surprise you?

Third best RB performance of the day....

Forte surprised me a little, but I drafted him high because I thought he would be this good.  Unfortunately, I let someone talk me out of playing him.   ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on September 8, 2008, 07:08 PM
Brady owners took a huge hit, but so did Moss and Maroney...not cool but I passed on both Moss and Brady in another league at pick 5 in another league, sure am glad I did that

Losing Brady sucks, but that's just another example of why you never take a QB in the first few rounds.  I wouldn't say that Maroney and Moss took huge hits - Moss had 116 yards and a TD, which would project to an 1800 yard season with 16 TDs...that's still first round material IMO. 

Moss is ONLY 1st round material because of his QB and nothing else, no QB means less of a passing threat.  Sort of like his time in Oakland...hmmm?

Cleary you have an explanation for his 116 yards and TD with a lesser QB then...?

Uh it was still just one game, and they were playing Kansas City? That really isn't that much of an accomplishment against that kind of team.

It is also a horrible logical flaw to say that it projects that he will have 1800 yds and 16 TDs... You can't predict a season based on one game. Based on that logic LT would only have 1500 yds rushing and no TDs, and barring an injury we all know he won't be held out of the endzone and entire year. You need to wait a couple weeks so you can average a couple weeks together to get a better predictor. Should Brady really be out for the year, I highly doubt Moss will hit 1800 yds and 16 TDs.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on September 8, 2008, 08:37 PM
Brady owners took a huge hit, but so did Moss and Maroney...not cool but I passed on both Moss and Brady in another league at pick 5 in another league, sure am glad I did that

Losing Brady sucks, but that's just another example of why you never take a QB in the first few rounds.  I wouldn't say that Maroney and Moss took huge hits - Moss had 116 yards and a TD, which would project to an 1800 yard season with 16 TDs...that's still first round material IMO. 

Moss is ONLY 1st round material because of his QB and nothing else, no QB means less of a passing threat.  Sort of like his time in Oakland...hmmm?

Cleary you have an explanation for his 116 yards and TD with a lesser QB then...?
60 of those yards were with Brady throwing to him...I bet he'll be close to 1100 and 7 TD's
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 8, 2008, 09:37 PM

I think the biggest surprises of the day were Willie Parker and Micheal Turner. 


The rookie, Forte, didn't surprise you?

Third best RB performance of the day....

Forte surprised me a little, but I drafted him high because I thought he would be this good.  Unfortunately, I let someone talk me out of playing him.   ::)

Are you referring to me?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 8, 2008, 10:16 PM
Talk about the horns of a dilemma.  If Peterson scores in last minute, I lose, but Vikings win.  Let's go Sidney Rice.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 9, 2008, 12:31 AM
It is also a horrible logical flaw to say that it projects that he will have 1800 yds and 16 TDs... You can't predict a season based on one game. Based on that logic LT would only have 1500 yds rushing and no TDs, and barring an injury we all know he won't be held out of the endzone and entire year. You need to wait a couple weeks so you can average a couple weeks together to get a better predictor. Should Brady really be out for the year, I highly doubt Moss will hit 1800 yds and 16 TDs.

No, that's what a projection is.  Use the ratio of perfromance per game to date to estimate performance for the remainder of the games and that's what Moss would have.  I'm not saying he'll do exactly that, but the point is that he isn't exactly chopped liver just because Brady is out for the season.  I think its more of a "horrible logical flaw" to say that Moss isn't first round talent and will be a bust this season with no data to back that up versus looking at his week #1 Perfromance.  ;)

60 of those yards were with Brady throwing to him...I bet he'll be close to 1100 and 7 TD's
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And I will bet you $100 dollars that Moss scores more than 7 TD's this year.   :o
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on September 9, 2008, 02:10 AM
It is also a horrible logical flaw to say that it projects that he will have 1800 yds and 16 TDs... You can't predict a season based on one game. Based on that logic LT would only have 1500 yds rushing and no TDs, and barring an injury we all know he won't be held out of the endzone and entire year. You need to wait a couple weeks so you can average a couple weeks together to get a better predictor. Should Brady really be out for the year, I highly doubt Moss will hit 1800 yds and 16 TDs.

No, that's what a projection is.  Use the ratio of perfromance per game to date to estimate performance for the remainder of the games and that's what Moss would have. 

You're right. How silly of me to think you can't project a season based on the first game of the year. Well it looks like Michael Turner will have 3250 yds rushing and 32 TDS on the season. 3000 yard club anyone? Braylon Edwards is a flop and will go for 224 yds and 0 TDs. Ocho Cinco's name change has jinxed him and he will only have 352 yds with no TDs. Willie Parker is going to shatter the rushing TD record with 48 TDs and 2208 yds to go along with them. Solid projections there. How could I possibly doubt any of those? ::)

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I think its more of a "horrible logical flaw" to say that Moss isn't first round talent and will be a bust this season with no data to back that up versus looking at his week #1 Perfromance.  ;)


Right... Coming from someone who has taken plenty of college statistics classes, you simply don't predict an average for a data set when you only know one data point from the set. The error rate is so high that any projection is about as useful as throwing a dart while blindfolded. There is no reason any sane statistician would predict a season based on that. Especially after your QB, last years MVP and nearly the only reason Moss set the recieving TD record last year, goes down for the season. Now you have Cassel coming in, who has been a career backup, in both college and in the NFL. I wouldn't count Moss out completely either. but 1800 yds and 16 TDs is by no menas a reasonable prediction. Cassel isn't Brady, Belichek knows that. I'd expect to see the Pats running the ball more and throwing a bit less. Moss wanted to go to NE specifically becasue of Brady, with Brady out and Cassel in will Moss start to look more like he did in Oakland? That remians to be seen I guess, but you can be assured he won't be repeating what he did last year nor will he be getting 1800 yds and 16 TDs.


Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2008, 11:16 AM
A few years ago Barry Bonds was on pace for 320+ HR in a single season after one game.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 9, 2008, 11:36 AM
I just lost my first FF game by 1.04 points.

Big thanks to Tom and Rob.


Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2008, 11:39 AM
Yeah - my team sucked ass, I had no business winning that game.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 9, 2008, 11:44 AM
No, you deserved it.  I was the one without a QB.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on September 9, 2008, 11:49 AM
Both Rob and ruiner are projected to score less than 50 points for the rest of the year. You two might as well just turn it in now.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 9, 2008, 11:59 AM
Oh trust me, I turned it in on Sunday. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2008, 12:46 PM
Both Rob and ruiner are projected to score less than 50 points for the rest of the year. You two might as well just turn it in now.

Yeah, it's a shame that Santonio Holmes and Chad Ocho Cinco are only going to score 25 or so points each this year, and that Joseph Addai is going to score under 60.  If only I'd drafted Willie Parker and his projected 456 points, I'd be golden.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 9, 2008, 12:59 PM

Right... Coming from someone who has taken plenty of college statistics classes, you simply don't predict an average for a data set when you only know one data point from the set. The error rate is so high that any projection is about as useful as throwing a dart while blindfolded. There is no reason any sane statistician would predict a season based on that. Especially after your QB, last years MVP and nearly the only reason Moss set the recieving TD record last year, goes down for the season. Now you have Cassel coming in, who has been a career backup, in both college and in the NFL. I wouldn't count Moss out completely either. but 1800 yds and 16 TDs is by no menas a reasonable prediction. Cassel isn't Brady, Belichek knows that. I'd expect to see the Pats running the ball more and throwing a bit less. Moss wanted to go to NE specifically becasue of Brady, with Brady out and Cassel in will Moss start to look more like he did in Oakland? That remians to be seen I guess, but you can be assured he won't be repeating what he did last year nor will he be getting 1800 yds and 16 TDs.




You're still missing the point. Limited data sets are used to PROJECT statistics all the time.  Its not a guarantee or even a prediction of performance, just an expanded view of how that data set would be extrapolated.  As someone who has taken many statistics classes, you should know this already. I think you're getting confused by terminology. 

The whole point of the conversation is that you shouldn't assume Moss is a bust just because Brady went down, and Sunday's performance helps show that.  None of us can predict the future, but its too early to say that he will be a flop or not worthy of a first round selection when went for 100+ yards and a TD sans Brady. 

Still haven't heard back from Scott on how he is going to pay me my $100 once Moss scores his 8th TD.   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 9, 2008, 01:01 PM
If only I'd drafted Willie Parker and his projected 456 points, I'd be golden.

Eh, we could play that game all day. 

How do you think I feel?

 :-\
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on September 9, 2008, 02:28 PM
I think you're the one missing the point Justin, 3/4 of a football game with an unproven QB should not be used to extrapolate anything.  I've held that Randy Moss is the best receiver since 1998, better than TO or 85 or any others...he just hasn't had the QB skilled enough to get him the ball again until last year. 

If Randy Moss was on the Vikings again you think he would go for 1500 yards and 12+ TD's??
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 9, 2008, 03:03 PM
I would guess this:

Brady to Moss in 2008: expect 1,500 yards and 15 TDs

Cassell to Moss in 2008: expect 1,000 yards and roughly 8 TDs

Denial or not, Moss' stock has dropped and Terrell Owens is now the #1 receiver in the game for 2008.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2008, 04:39 PM
Alright, week one has come and gone.  I bought the stat tracker and everything is processed and working, but I still can't see the list of who's being added the most each week.  Can any of you guys see it or is it now only something you can get with fantasy football plus?  The page I'm looking for is called the Buzz Index in baseball and is right where it's always been.
 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 9, 2008, 06:30 PM
If Randy Moss was on the Vikings again you think he would go for 1500 yards and 12+ TD's??

No I don't because the Vikes are incompetent.  the Pats have the same line, same coach, and same surrounding cast ex. Brady.  He's a big factor, but not the only factor.  Moss was with a horrible team, with a horrible coach and he was banged up in Oakland...that's certainly not the same as where he's at now.  I will be shocked if he doesn't still get at least 10 TDs this year and he still has upside for much more than that even without Brady.  You're obviously not very confident in your estimate or you'd take my bet.  ;)

I'd also bet that someone beats out Owens for the #1 spot this year. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 9, 2008, 09:26 PM
I bought the stat tracker and everything is processed and working, but I still can't see the list of who's being added the most each week.  Can any of you guys see it or is it now only something you can get with fantasy football plus? 

From what I can see it appears now to be only with Plus.  I can't access it either. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2008, 09:33 PM
So how much does it cost to upgrade the league to plus?  I'm looking around but don't see it...  I only see a place where I can email the commissioner and ask him (you) to upgrade it...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on September 9, 2008, 09:41 PM
I'll bet Justin...7.5 over under on Moss TD's for the year, loser buys a beer for the winner next meeting I get to
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 9, 2008, 09:51 PM
I'd gladly take the over on that bet.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 9, 2008, 10:30 PM
So how much does it cost to upgrade the league to plus? 

$124.99

I'll upgrade it, but I'm not paying a cent out of my pocket for that.  If you all want to take up a collection and cover my costs, fine, but I'm just not THAT into it.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 10, 2008, 08:31 AM
I'll bet Justin...7.5 over under on Moss TD's for the year, loser buys a beer for the winner next meeting I get to

Deal, though we better meet at a place that has good beer for a change.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 10, 2008, 09:07 AM
So how much does it cost to upgrade the league to plus? 

$124.99

I'll upgrade it, but I'm not paying a cent out of my pocket for that.  If you all want to take up a collection and cover my costs, fine, but I'm just not THAT into it.

All the money in the world won't save my team.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 10, 2008, 10:38 AM
Yeah... that's only a little over $11 each (if everyone else was in) but I don't think it's worth it - unless we wanted to start a keeper league (next year).
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 10, 2008, 01:20 PM
No thanks.  Why do you want to see who's being added the most in other leagues anyway? 

A.) Their scoring could be radically different
B.) The general public is likely no better at predicting results than you
C.) Man up

Just watch who I pick up and you'll know who you should have grabbed.   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 10, 2008, 09:05 PM
No thanks.  Why do you want to see who's being added the most in other leagues anyway? 

A.) Their scoring could be radically different
B.) The general public is likely no better at predicting results than you
C.) Man up

Just watch who I pick up and you'll know who you should have grabbed.   ;D

It gives you an easy place to see if some unknown player is suddenly valuable.  If 30,000 teams added some back-up running back or receiver then you know that the starter got hurt or lost his job and now this guy's the one.  It's how I found out about Ryan Grant last year and is an incredibly valuable free agency tool. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 10, 2008, 09:17 PM
But if you're basing who to pick up based on who a good deal of other people are picking up, then don't you think those people are finding out from some other site or news report that there is someone valuable on the wire?  And if that's the case, isn't it likely that either you or one of your 11 competitors would also find this news from some other source around the same time or sooner and grab the pickup before you could get to him? 

I'm still not seeing the huge advantage here, but here's something that may help you out.  While it doesn't show pick-ups per se, you can go to the players list and do a ranking on % owned of free agents.  Anyone who is being picked up by gobs of teams should be owned by a fair amount of people, so you can just check the % owned periodically.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 10, 2008, 09:21 PM
Yes.  That's just where I've often gone to see who's moving.  Trust me, it's a nice tool to have.  I'll find one elsewhere.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 10, 2008, 09:27 PM
Yes.  That's just where I've often gone to see who's moving.  Trust me, it's a nice tool to have.  I'll find one elsewhere.

They have a transaction report on CBS Sportsline too, but I think you might have to be in one of their leagues to see it. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 13, 2008, 10:21 PM
Just an FYI for those that haven't heard.  The Ravens/Texans game that was moved to Monday night is now complete cancelled and they'll play later in the year.   If you have any Texans or Ravens, you might want to swap them out for other players this week. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 13, 2008, 11:41 PM
You're WAAAAAAAAAYYY to good of a sport to be announcing that here.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on September 14, 2008, 07:36 PM
Randy Moss, 2 Catches for 22 yards, 0 TD's

He's now on pace for 1000 yards and 8 TD's :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 14, 2008, 10:26 PM
Randy Moss, 2 Catches for 22 yards, 0 TD's

He's now on pace for 1000 yards and 8 TD's :-X

Sweet - 8 TDs still gets me a free beer from you.   ;D

Have to say, I'm a little worried after today's game.  I have moss in a couple of leagues, so here's hoping he and the Pats can tep it up a little. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on September 15, 2008, 12:40 AM
moss should be fine. I worried about Maroney though. i really shouldn't of drafted him in my money league. he fell all the way to 50th overall so it was hard to resist. most likely going to end up droping him for someone else :/
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 15, 2008, 08:21 AM
moss should be fine. I worried about Maroney though. i really shouldn't of drafted him in my money league. he fell all the way to 50th overall so it was hard to resist. most likely going to end up droping him for someone else :/

I didn't see all of that game, but I thought he got injured part way through...?  Kep in mind that he didn't explode until the back half last season.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on September 15, 2008, 11:17 PM
If DumbAss Jackson costs me this game I'm going to be really pissed... >:(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2008, 11:27 PM
If DumbAss Jackson costs me this game I'm going to be really pissed... >:(

If Brian Westbrook scores 2 more TD's DumbAss Jackson will have cost me my game too (since Westbrook scored a TD that he wouldn't have right after that boneheaded play).

Meanwhile, my Direct TV signal died right at the start of the second half - I'm beyond pissed about it.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 16, 2008, 01:09 PM
Well, I'm back up to .500, so feeling better about my team.  Now I just need to get Moss and Housh doing something more than 2 passes for 20 yards each game.   ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 16, 2008, 01:15 PM
While you're on that if you could speak to Chad Ocho Stinko for me.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 16, 2008, 01:18 PM
While you're on that if you could speak to Chad Ocho Stinko for me.

I plan to give the whole Bengals team a wake up call.  What the heck happened to THAT offense?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 16, 2008, 02:32 PM
No frickin' clue.  My only saving grace is that when I picked Chad Johnson up, the other guy I was deciding on was Wes Welker and with Tom Brady out he hasn't been much better at all. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 19, 2008, 11:03 AM
Can we just scrap this season and start over?



Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 19, 2008, 11:51 AM
Can we just scrap this season and start over?

If you beat Marin this weekend, I'd say sure.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 19, 2008, 11:57 AM
Come again?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2008, 12:34 PM
I've got Ruiner this week. Bug is playing Marin.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 19, 2008, 12:43 PM
My bad, I was stuck on week 2.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on September 19, 2008, 12:45 PM
I've got Ruiner this week.

No, I've got YOU this weekend.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 19, 2008, 01:35 PM
All I know is that Moss is going to get 3 TD's this week to get back on track for his full 23 on the year, so whoever's playing me is hosed.   :D

Also, a pig just flew past my window.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on September 21, 2008, 05:02 PM
Moss, 4 catches 25 yards...0 TD's

On pace for... 816 yards and 5.3 TD's  :o
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on September 21, 2008, 07:49 PM
Wow. Ronnie Brown has more points than three entire teams at this point... :o
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 21, 2008, 08:16 PM
Is Dressel cursed?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 21, 2008, 10:11 PM
No more than me. 

Burleson.

Colson.

Westbrook. 

Yay.   :'(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on September 21, 2008, 10:12 PM
Did you guys go to Hawaii together and not tell us?!  :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on September 21, 2008, 10:25 PM
The Broncos Offense Isotopes are really starting to look like the team to beat this year... averaging 90 points after three weeks? Yikes.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on September 21, 2008, 10:50 PM
Did you guys go to Hawaii together and not tell us?!  :-*
Not yet, I haven't even booked the bloody flight for December. :-\  I guess there's no point in not going now.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on September 21, 2008, 11:35 PM
The Broncos Offense Isotopes are really starting to look like the team to beat this year... averaging 90 points after three weeks? Yikes.

It's about time being a homer pays off. :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2008, 08:31 AM
Is Dressel cursed?

There's very little room for debate on this subject at the moment.  Best looking 0-3 team I've ever had.


Did you guys go to Hawaii together and not tell us?!  :-*

No. 

San Francisco.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 22, 2008, 09:21 AM
The Broncos Offense Isotopes are really starting to look like the team to beat this year... averaging 90 points after three weeks? Yikes.

Yup.

But this can change quickly.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on September 22, 2008, 11:05 AM
Moss, 4 catches 25 yards...0 TD's

On pace for... 816 yards and 5.3 TD's  :o



Okay, WTH is up with the Patriots?  I was tailgating at the Packer game, so I didn't get to see any of the game...how do you let Miami rack up 38 points on a team that hasn't lost a game at home in like three years?!  That's insane.  I guess when I thought Moss could be worthwhile this year, I should have factored the the Pats stink now that they're not allowed to cheat and yes, apparently Brady was the whole team, defense included.   ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 1, 2008, 01:56 PM
Well, after scoring only 30 points this week I know what NOT to do in next year's draft...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 1, 2008, 04:47 PM
Well, after scoring only 30 points this week I know what NOT to do in next year's draft...

And what is that?  Frankly this season has not taught me anything about who to draft or who will even be a good start next week.  When guys like H. Ward and L. Evans are blowing away R. Moss and houshmanzadeh, what does that teach you?  The only thing I've learned is to not waste so much time preparing for the season since pretty much each and every player has been wildly unpredictible. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 1, 2008, 04:58 PM
This game is 50% skill, 50% dumb blind luck.  The idea that my team is 4-0 proves that quite handily. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 1, 2008, 05:17 PM

And what is that? 

Focus on RB's.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on October 1, 2008, 05:34 PM
  When guys like H. Ward and L. Evans are blowing away R. Moss and houshmanzadeh, what does that teach you? 

It should teach you that a guy like Moss, who is as fickle as can be as a football player, is highly dependent on someone serving him well.  Same holds true as for Owens.  With respect to Housh, it only shows he overperformed last year, something I truly enjoyed and benefitted from but guys are expecting him to perform as a #1 which he really isn't.  He is, for the most part, a possession receiver.  And with Ocho underperforming, he's getting hurt too. 

But the real point is what Rob said: luck.  By week 4 I'm without 2 receivers and my top running back (#3 overall pick)?  Yeah, I planned for that to happen.  But hey, Colston should be back before long, Westbrook will miss at most one more game due to this injury and Engram will now be Seattle's number 1.  Plus we're into bye weeks.  So maybe my luck will change, maybe it won't. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 1, 2008, 05:40 PM

And what is that? 

Focus on RB's.

If anyone needs one, I'm in the market for a WR.  I've got Jacobs, Addai, James, R. Johnson, and McAllister all putting up decent numbers.  I also expect Michael Bush to be contributing all year long... but who knows.

I'd trade Brandon Jacobs for a stud receiver, or Rudi Johnson/McAllister for a decent one.  Chad Johnson and a RB could also be part of a deal for a stud receiver.  I'm a sell-low mood with that guy, although I do think he'll still end up with 9 or 10 TD's on the year.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 1, 2008, 06:41 PM
It should teach you that a guy like Moss, who is as fickle as can be as a football player, is highly dependent on someone serving him well.  Same holds true as for Owens.  With respect to Housh, it only shows he overperformed last year, something I truly enjoyed and benefitted from but guys are expecting him to perform as a #1 which he really isn't.  He is, for the most part, a possession receiver.  And with Ocho underperforming, he's getting hurt too. 

I'd agree that Moss is fickle, though I still don't get why NE is THAT bad this year.  I think its more a combination of conservative play calling and they're just not as good when they aren't cheating.

Owens is not the same caliber at all.  He's thrived under every QB he's worked with as far as I can remember.  His problem is that he can't shut his mouth and that gets him into trouble.

I also don't believe Housh overperformed last year versus this year.  I think the problem with Cinci is their run game.  C. Perry is averaging under 3 yards per carry and inthe games I've watched, defenses are overly focused on shutting down the receivers and preventing big plays.  That should be opening up the run game, but Perry's not doing his part to keep defenses honest and that's killing Housh.  It also doesn't help to have a gimpy Chad Johnson, since he had been drawing double coverage the last few years.

As for focus on RBs, I don't think you'd be enjoying a winning season with Steven Jackson, Brandon Jackson, W. McGahee, or L. Maroney on your squad.  Even LT and AP have underperformed so far this year.  Now if you had Owens, Fitzgerald, Boldin, Marshall, etc. you'd be doing pretty well.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 1, 2008, 07:03 PM
Owens is not the same caliber at all.  He's thrived under every QB he's worked with as far as I can remember.  His problem is that he can't shut his mouth and that gets him into trouble.

That really hasn't been a problem here in Dallas.  He's been well behaved for the most part and has put up massive numbers.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 1, 2008, 10:29 PM
Owens is not the same caliber at all.  He's thrived under every QB he's worked with as far as I can remember.  His problem is that he can't shut his mouth and that gets him into trouble.

That really hasn't been a problem here in Dallas.  He's been well behaved for the most part and has put up massive numbers.

You didn't see the press conference with Owens after this week's game?  The one where he blamed their loss on the coaches not getting him the ball enough?  The ESPN guys talked about it afterwards and noted that he was actually thrown to or ran the ball on 20 of roughly 60 plays, indicating that they may actually be using him too much.  Give Dallas a few more losses and you'll start to see him tear that team apart.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 1, 2008, 10:42 PM
I'd like to see a full transcript of it, because it wasn't big news here on the local radio on Monday - they played some typical team-oriented comments where he was talking about how all he wanted to do was win and how they needed to play better and yadda yadda yadda, it didn't seem like anything big at the time.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 2, 2008, 12:06 AM
I'd like to see a full transcript of it, because it wasn't big news here on the local radio on Monday - they played some typical team-oriented comments where he was talking about how all he wanted to do was win and how they needed to play better and yadda yadda yadda, it didn't seem like anything big at the time.

Apparently Owens even had a chat with Romo after the game:

"Owens, despite having 18 passes thrown his way in the loss to Washington, had what was deemed a serious conversation about the offense with quarterback Tony Romo after the game, according to multiple sources.

The types of routes and throws are what concerns Owens, the sources said. The receiver, who the sources said was venting to Romo about his frustrations, has not liked how some of the throws were coming from the quarterback as far back as the season opener. "

And in his own words...

The Cowboys ran 58 offensive plays. They threw it to him 18 times and let Owens run it twice on two end-arounds. Yet when asked if the ball was thrown his way often enough, Owens said: "I would say no. I'm a competitor, and I want the ball...when I don't get the ball, the offense is stagnant."

Personally, I love Owens as a player and I think his antics are pretty funny, but his mouth has burned bridges and killed teams mid season.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 2, 2008, 12:37 AM
There are conflicting reports on that too - two articles in two papers I guess, one saying there was a meeting, the other flatly denying that this meeting took place.  The local radio here had both writers on today, but I was only in the car long enough to hear the first one.  So, we'll have to just decide what we believe and leave it at that.  I know that the media has been trying to goad T.O. into doing something stupid for over 2 years now and it usually doesn't work. 

Any way you slice it, this isn't Owens/Garcia or Owens/McNabb again - Owens and Romo get along very well, they're friends, and they put up big numbers together, even if it didn't work out in that Redskins game.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 2, 2008, 05:01 PM
Any way you slice it, this isn't Owens/Garcia or Owens/McNabb again - Owens and Romo get along very well, they're friends, and they put up big numbers together, even if it didn't work out in that Redskins game.

Well, I agree that no one knows for sure what's being said behind closed doors, and totally agree that the media is looking to make a story out of Owens.  I do think, however, that Owens is only happy when he is winning and his "friendship" with Romo is hugely dependent the fact that they are dominating most teams.  If you recall, Owens and McNabb were great friends even outside of work and that fell apart in a matter of weeks once they started losing games. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 2, 2008, 05:13 PM
Dallas will win 10-12 games and Owens and Romo will not only be fine, but will be the #1 QB-WR combo in the NFL this year.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 2, 2008, 05:37 PM
Dallas will win 10-12 games and Owens and Romo will not only be fine, but will be the #1 QB-WR combo in the NFL this year.

You mean #2 behind Palmer and Houshmanzadeh, who will both start lighting up my fantasy team in a few weeks.   ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on October 3, 2008, 12:06 AM
Dallas will win 10-12 games and Owens and Romo will not only be fine, but will be the #1 #2 QB-WR combo in the NFL this year.

Fixed that for you...

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05H61AicpCggu/610x.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2008, 01:37 AM
As long as they take a break from that little quest to lose to Tampa this weekend, I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2008, 08:59 AM
Dallas will win 10-12 games and Owens and Romo will not only be fine, but will be the #1 #2 QB-WR combo in the NFL this year.

Fixed that for you...

(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05H61AicpCggu/610x.jpg)

 :)

Let's see if Cutler can keep his blood sugar stable for a full season before we get all hot and bothered about him and  Brandon Marshall.

(http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1112/pg2_g_romo_owens_480.jpg)

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 3, 2008, 02:07 PM
I'm more worried about Marshall getting suspended again than Cutler's diabetes, but they have been rockin' so far. 

By the way, kind of not cool to make fun of a guy for diabetes.   ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2008, 02:50 PM
I'm more worried about Marshall getting suspended again than Cutler's diabetes, but they have been rockin' so far. 

By the way, kind of not cool to make fun of a guy for diabetes.   ::)

I'm not making fun of him, jackass.  If you'd look up what the hell you're talking about before you lecture me, you'd know that even the Broncos attribute Cutler's past performance meltdowns to wildly out of control diabetes.  Weakness, fatigue.  They think it's under control now, but let's see him play a full season before we start spanking the monkey, okay?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2008, 03:25 PM
I'm not making fun of him, jackass.  If you'd look up what the hell you're talking about before you lecture me, you'd know that even the Broncos attribute Cutler's past performance meltdowns to wildly out of control diabetes.  Weakness, fatigue.  They think it's under control now, but let's see him play a full season before we start spanking the monkey, okay?

More importantly though, it was undiagnosed diabetes.  He wasn't managing it at all.  There's nothing to really suggest that he won't be fine now that he's under a doctor's care.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2008, 03:31 PM
I'm not making fun of him, jackass.  If you'd look up what the hell you're talking about before you lecture me, you'd know that even the Broncos attribute Cutler's past performance meltdowns to wildly out of control diabetes.  Weakness, fatigue.  They think it's under control now, but let's see him play a full season before we start spanking the monkey, okay?

More importantly though, it was undiagnosed diabetes.  He wasn't managing it at all.  There's nothing to really suggest that he won't be fine now that he's under a doctor's care.

Yeah but it's been four games.  Can we get through a season with this relentless disease before we pronounce Cutler-Marshall better than Romo-Owens or Brady-Moss?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 3, 2008, 03:37 PM
I'm more worried about Marshall getting suspended again than Cutler's diabetes, but they have been rockin' so far. 

By the way, kind of not cool to make fun of a guy for diabetes.   ::)

I'm not making fun of him, jackass.  If you'd look up what the hell you're talking about before you lecture me, you'd know that even the Broncos attribute Cutler's past performance meltdowns to wildly out of control diabetes.  Weakness, fatigue.  They think it's under control now, but let's see him play a full season before we start spanking the monkey, okay?

#1 Cool off Dresser.  I'd hardly call the line above a lecture.  Is it your time of the month?
#2 Cutler's eratic performance prior to this year was undiagnosed.  Your comment: "Let's see if Cutler can keep his blood sugar stable for a full season before we get all hot and bothered about him and Brandon Marshall" either suggests you didn't realize that he's managing his illness or you're putting him down because of it.  Not sure how else you would take that.
#3 Not interested in anything you do with your monkey.  Ish.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 3, 2008, 03:40 PM
Yeah but it's been four games.  Can we get through a season with this relentless disease before we pronounce Cutler-Marshall better than Romo-Owens or Brady-Moss?

No, it has to be done now!  Don't look now, but your man-love for Owens is bordering on obessive.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 5, 2008, 11:28 PM
Anyone have stat-tracker?  My rough estimate has me knocking off one of the 4-0 teams.  Woohoo!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on October 5, 2008, 11:34 PM
SGC Airmen 53.74 (1)
Back off jackoff 52.77 (1)

Hawaiian Curse 61.25 (1)
Old Cocky Bastards 34.30 (2)

Zissou Mighty Muggs 71.92 (0)
Dressel's Rebellion 60.49 (1)

Terrorist Fist Jabs 74.25 (0)
GoldenGirls 33.86 (2)

The Cranes 51.94
ruiner's cornballers 87.72 (Final)

Springfield Isotopes 75.83
Remy's Raiders 82.00 (Final)

Thank god DeAngelo Williams was riding the pine against me today. :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 6, 2008, 12:43 PM
Hooray!  ;D   ;D   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 6, 2008, 01:04 PM
Can someone give us updated projections for Randy Moss?   :D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 6, 2008, 04:17 PM
Still looking for a RB if anyone has one to trade. 

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 6, 2008, 05:00 PM
I've got a few - I'm looking for WR or TE.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 6, 2008, 05:30 PM
Can someone give us updated projections for Randy Moss?   :D

Sure!  Moss is projected for 1100 yards receiving, 8 yards rushing (  ;D ) and 8 TDs, which means Scott will owe me a beer.  Yay!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on October 12, 2008, 03:31 PM
This is always the game I hate the most every year. I want to win but I would rather see the Broncos win. And I can't cheer against Marshall or Cutler.

Go Andre Hall... ?  :-\
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on October 12, 2008, 08:18 PM
Here are the scores for anyone who doesn't have stat tracker:

SGC Airmen 63.12 (Final)
Springfield Isotopes 54.83

Hawaiian Curse 85.27 (0)
The Cranes 65.89 (1)

Zissou Mighty Muggs 37.34 (4)
Old Cocky Bastards 43.54 (3)

Terrorist Fist Jabs 38.67 (2)
Dressel's Rebellion 30.20 (3)

GoldenGirls 66.26 (1)
Remy's Raiders 41.54 (1)

Back off jackoff 67.35 (2)
ruiner's cornballers 42.51 (0)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 12, 2008, 11:35 PM
Another ugly week for me.  Thought I might get a garbage TD from R. Moss at the end there, but he officially sucks.  Scott, let me know what kind of light beer you Mankato kids like to drink.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 12, 2008, 11:56 PM
Yeah, his projected stats took a huge hit toady.   :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on October 13, 2008, 12:05 AM
Yeah, his projected stats took a huge hit toady.   :-*

Dude, he just lost.  Ya don't have to call him a toady.   :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2008, 12:25 AM
Well I didn't look at the scores before I said that...    :'(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Jayson on October 13, 2008, 12:20 PM
Report: Romo has broken pinkie, out 4 weeks (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27163397/)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 13, 2008, 12:59 PM
Yeah, his projected stats took a huge hit toady.   :-*

Dude, he just lost.  Ya don't have to call him a toady.   :-X

Seriously that was rude.  Don't make me break your pinky Rob.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2008, 02:51 PM
 
Report: Romo has broken pinkie, out 4 weeks (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27163397/)


The Cranes run of terrible luck continues... first his TE gets swollen testicles, then his QB breaks his finger... meanwhile, he keeps scoring lots of points but doing it in match-ups against teams that score even more.

Ouch.

Seriously that was rude.  Don't make me break your pinky Rob.   ;)

Yeah yeah, I'll be more careful next time.  May Moss score 8 TD's a game from here on out, as long as they're not against me.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 19, 2008, 06:36 PM
Stat Tracker as of 6:30 eastern for those who don't have it:

    *
      Terrorist Fist Jabs        82.11
      Old Cocky Bastards         45.57
    *
      Hawaiian Curse         59.81
      Back off jackoff         81.55
    *
      Zissou Mighty Muggs         64.07
      The Cranes               63.12
    *
      GoldenGirls                    43.54
      Dressel's Rebellion         52.51
    *
      Springfield Isotopes         45.53
      ruiner's cornballers         50.92
    *
      SGC Airmen                 61.41
      Remy's Raiders                 37.25



Word on Reggie Bush is that he has a partially torn meniscus and will miss 3 to 4 weeks.


Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 19, 2008, 07:49 PM
Word on Brett Favre is that he's washed up.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on October 19, 2008, 10:26 PM
i may get my first win as long as cassel isn't outscored by royal. wow! lol
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 20, 2008, 01:23 AM
Word on Brett Favre is that he's washed up.

Favre led his team, on the road, out of his own end zone with 1:15 left, to a game tying field goal.  A few weeks ago he threw 6 TD's in one game, and he's doing it on a mediocre team.

If you want to see washed-up, look at Brad Johnson, who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn all day, and he had Terrel Owens, Roy Williams, Jason Witten, and Marion Barber on offense.

Sorry if his fantasy stats were lackluster this week, but he's by no means washed up.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 20, 2008, 10:03 AM
Word on Brett Favre is that he's washed up.

Favre led his team, on the road, out of his own end zone with 1:15 left, to a game tying field goal.  A few weeks ago he threw 6 TD's in one game, and he's doing it on a mediocre team.

If you want to see washed-up, look at Brad Johnson, who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn all day, and he had Terrel Owens, Roy Williams, Jason Witten, and Marion Barber on offense.

Sorry if his fantasy stats were lackluster this week, but he's by no means washed up.

Amen.  He has over 1100 yards already, and 13 TDs this season - that's second only to Rivers and Romo, both of whom haven't had their bye weeks yet.  Maybe it's your football insight that is truly washed up.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 20, 2008, 10:15 AM

Sorry if his fantasy stats were lackluster this week, but he's by no means washed up.

In his last two games (Cincy and Oakland - teams he should have man-handled) he has thrown for less than 200 yards in each, thrown 4 interceptions, has one fumble, and only one TD.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 20, 2008, 10:23 AM


Amen.  He has over 1100 yards already, and 13 TDs this season - that's second only to Rivers and Romo, both of whom haven't had their bye weeks yet.  Maybe it's your football insight that is truly washed up.   ;)

Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees have been better than Brett Favre as well.

Though I agree that Favre is still formidable and a top 10 QB in the NFL. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 20, 2008, 11:15 AM
In his last two games (Cincy and Oakland - teams he should have man-handled) he has thrown for less than 200 yards in each, thrown 4 interceptions, has one fumble, and only one TD.

Cinci sure, but I think you're underestimating Oakland's secondary.  It's solid.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 20, 2008, 12:36 PM
Fair enough, though I would to point out that Brees had no trouble dropping 320 yards and 3 TD's on the Raiders last week (34-3).
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 20, 2008, 12:44 PM
Then he sucked it up against the Panthers, a team that Garcia shredded last week.

The NFL's a wacky place.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 20, 2008, 05:01 PM
My point is that Oakland isn't all that great when it comes to their secondary.  I believe they're ranked 25th in pass defense.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 20, 2008, 05:20 PM
Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees have been better than Brett Favre as well.


Not in terms of TD production. 

Ruiner - Brees had an awful game on Sunday... should we assume he's washed up as well?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 20, 2008, 10:33 PM
Randy Moss - back on track!   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 20, 2008, 10:46 PM
This just hit me - my first and second round picks are out for the season.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on October 20, 2008, 10:47 PM
Randy Moss - back on track!   ;D

Well yeah, when he isn't matched up against Champ. The Avs are down 1-0 right now... what a crappy sports day here in Denver. :(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 20, 2008, 10:53 PM
Well yeah, when he isn't matched up against Champ. The Avs are down 1-0 right now... what a crappy sports day here in Denver. :(

Maybe you could live vicariously through me and enjoy the excellent sports day we had yesterday in Tampa.     :-\
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on October 20, 2008, 11:19 PM
Randy Moss - back on track!   ;D

Well yeah, when he isn't matched up against Champ. The Avs are down 1-0 right now... what a crappy sports day here in Denver. :(

Well, at least the Avs just tied it up.  :-\ Hopefully the Pats don't give the ball too much to Faulk going down the stretch...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 20, 2008, 11:58 PM
Randy Moss - back on track!   ;D

Just a few more TDs and I get my Beer, Scotty.  Let's plan on Old Chicago so I can get a little further along my tour.   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on October 27, 2008, 11:07 PM
I barely skated by this week, I would have lost to any other team in the league. With AP out I had a pretty crappy week at RB. I have had some pretty crappy luck with TE's all year. I have yet to have a TE score a TD or go for more than 40 yds receiving. A TE on my team finally scores this week and where is he? Riding the pine of course. ::)

Congrats to the Cranes for finally knocking #1 off his undefeated perch.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on October 27, 2008, 11:11 PM
Eh, I never should have been undefeated anyway.  Travis would have beaten me easily week 1 if Brady hadn't gotten his knee blown up.

I knew this week was a loser for me.  He scores a ton of points and my guys were going up against a bunch of tough defenses. 

:)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on October 27, 2008, 11:28 PM
So I have an 11pt lead going into tonight and Dresser has Dallas Clark, who has yet to score a TD this season.  Should be an easy win, eh?   ::)  Oh well, Clark's two TDs were needed for me to win in my other league, so I won't complain (too much).   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 28, 2008, 09:12 AM
Tough luck.  At least you still have your first two picks on your team.

 ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 28, 2008, 10:02 AM
Dresser

Dressel.



So I have an 11pt lead going into tonight and Dresser has Dallas Clark, who has yet to score a TD this season.  Should be an easy win, eh?   ::)  Oh well, Clark's two TDs were needed for me to win in my other league, so I won't complain (too much).   ;D

Right you are, except you left out the part where I dropped Leon Washington who had a miniscule 19 fantasy points all season and 0 TDs, you picked him up and started him and he had 2 TDs.

So as you can see, you really should have never had the lead in the first place.

Justice served.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on November 2, 2008, 09:08 PM
Lot of close fantasy games today.

I can't believe the (bad) luck I've been having with injuries...

Brady - out for season
Maroney - out for season
Chambers - ankle
Witten - ribs
Orton - ankle

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on November 2, 2008, 09:17 PM
Right you are, except you left out the part where I dropped Leon Washington who had a miniscule 19 fantasy points all season and 0 TDs, you picked him up and started him and he had 2 TDs.

So as you can see, you really should have never had the lead in the first place.

Justice served.

How does you dropping a guy and me picking him up, and using him for mega points against you, but still losing equal justice? 

I was rooting for Clark because of my other league, so I can certainly see how that would have angered the fantasty football gods.

Speaking of which, anyone with stat tracker have a Sunday night update?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on November 2, 2008, 10:03 PM
Dresser

Dressel.

Glad we caught that one, we wouldn't want anyone misspelling our fake internet names now would we.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on November 2, 2008, 10:06 PM
It has been relatively low scoring all accross our league today, no one has broken 70 points yet:

SGC Airmen 55.57 (A. Randle El, Pit D)
Hawaiian Curse 64.88

Zissou Mighty Muggs 55.17 (M. Cassel)
Springfield Isotopes 42.76 (R. Wayne, H. Miller)

Terrorist Fist Jabs 64.85 (J. Addai, H. Ward, S. Homes)
Back off jackoff 37.73 (W. Welker, C. Portis)

GoldenGirls 60.74 (M. Harrison)
The Cranes 62.14 (S. Moss)

Dressel's Rebellion 47.92 (M. Moore, S. Gotkowski, D. Clark)
Old Cocky Bastards 48.57 (P. Manning, C. Cooley)

ruiner's cornballers 62.94 (K. Faulk)
Remy's Raiders 53.96 (R. Moss)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on November 2, 2008, 10:41 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on November 2, 2008, 11:15 PM
It has been relatively low scoring all accross our league today, no one has broken 70 points yet:

Not yet, but I've got almost 66 and most of the Steelers passing attack going tomorrow.  :D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on November 3, 2008, 08:14 AM
That's two games now that McGahee has lost it for me.  Worst draft pick ever.   :-[
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on November 3, 2008, 10:32 AM
That's two games now that McGahee has lost it for me.  Worst draft pick ever.   :-[

I'll trade you Ray Rice if the price is right.   :o
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on November 5, 2008, 12:05 AM
Just a reminder that there is a Thursday game this week...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on November 5, 2008, 01:11 AM
Again, you're way to kind to be in this league.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on November 5, 2008, 02:53 PM
Kind wasn't the word I was thinking of. . .
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on November 5, 2008, 05:48 PM
Kind wasn't the word I was thinking of. . .

What was the word you were thinking of?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on November 9, 2008, 11:58 PM
Wow, I really thought Rob was going to rally at the end there. That was a close game.

Here are the post Sunday Night scores:

SGC Airmen 54.65 (L. Fitzgerald)
Zissou Mighty Muggs 47.59 (none)

Hawaiian Curse 104.31 (Final)
ruiner's cornballers 63.11

Terrorist Fist Jabs 76.08 (none)
Springfield Isotopes 79.42 (Arizona D)

GoldenGirls 55.50 (A. Boldin)
Back off jackoff 75.37 (F. Gore)

Dressel's Rebellion 72.82 (none)
The Cranes 47.17 (T. Hightower, N. Rackers)

Old Cocky Bastards 70.46 (none)
Remy's Raiders 67.33 (K. Warner)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on November 10, 2008, 08:25 AM
Hmmn....can Warner get me 8pts or will he go down with an injury in the first quarter?  :-\
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on November 25, 2008, 12:01 AM
One pass saved my ass.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on November 25, 2008, 12:03 PM
A massive game from Lance Moore saved mine.

All the reports at 11:30 in the morning when I left to go watch the Bucs were that Jacobs was playing... then I get home around 3:00 and find out he isn't.   >:(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on December 1, 2008, 01:45 AM
I'm regretting not pulling the trigger on that Thomas Jones - Steve Smith trade... :-X

I got lucky this week, I totally forgot to edit my lineup. All I really would have changed would have been McNabb for Campbell, luckily it didn't matter.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 1, 2008, 10:22 AM
I offered up Jones to a number of people for a receiver, no one bit on the deal.  I'm not disappointed. ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on December 2, 2008, 09:41 AM
Wow, it's a mess down here at the bottom.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on December 3, 2008, 11:11 PM
Well I just barely surived this week.  Has anyone else had a game this close in '08?

Remy's Raiders          49.93
Zissou Mightyl Muggs 49.46

If I can win one more, I think I'm in the playoffs since either the Cranes or Isotopes are going to lose.  For teams that finish with similar records, is the tie-breaker head to head or total points?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 4, 2008, 12:30 AM
I think it is h2h first, points second.  I'll check the rules....
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 4, 2008, 01:37 AM
Total points scored is the tie breaker.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on December 8, 2008, 11:10 AM
Wow, it's a mess down here at the bottom.



Well, I don't think my 30 or so points are going to cut it this week.  Been a good season (in other leagues at least!).  Best of luck to those in the playoffs!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on December 8, 2008, 12:11 PM
Yep, we're done.  Hopefully next year will be better!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 8, 2008, 12:13 PM
I wanna change the league next year so we can start five running backs.   :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 11, 2008, 10:11 AM
I wanna change the league next year so we can start five running backs.   :-X

I want to change it next year so Joseph Addai isn't on my team.   >:(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on December 11, 2008, 01:48 PM
I wanna change the league next year so we can start five running backs.   :-X

I want to change it next year so Joseph Addai isn't on my team.   >:(

I want to change it next year so that I don't own a Broncos running back (much less the 5 I've owned thus far this year). >:(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 11, 2008, 02:13 PM
Might I suggest a strategy that relies LESS upon Broncos in general.  :-X
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on December 12, 2008, 12:22 AM
Might I suggest a strategy that relies LESS upon Broncos in general.  :-X


...says another guy not in the playoffs next week.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 12, 2008, 12:50 AM
Beg your pardon, but last I checked I was playing Dressel.  :)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on December 12, 2008, 10:19 AM
I fixed my post for you.   ;D
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on December 12, 2008, 12:41 PM
Might I suggest a strategy that relies LESS upon Broncos in general.  :-X

So far, so good.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on December 12, 2008, 01:16 PM
Might I suggest a strategy that relies LESS upon Broncos in general.  :-X

Yeah, well, hopefully Ryan isn't on autopick in the draft next year (like he was this year) - he'll keep me from being too much of a homer.  ;)

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on December 12, 2008, 06:22 PM
Might I suggest a strategy that relies LESS upon Broncos in general.  :-X

Yeah, well, hopefully Ryan isn't on autopick in the draft next year (like he was this year) - he'll keep me from being too much of a homer.  ;)



:P

I would like to point out that despite having almost every single Bronco imaginable on his roster (I think I even saw John Elway and Terrell Davis on there) Matt is 3rd in the league in scoring...
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on December 14, 2008, 07:37 PM
Anyone with the stat tracker that can give a scoring update?
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on December 14, 2008, 07:50 PM
Most of the games have been close all day:

SGC Airmen 71.34 (D. McNabb)
The Cranes 50.59 (NYG Def)

Hawaiian Curse 65.19 (B. Westbrook)
Dressel's Rebellion 56.44 (T. Owens, A. Toomer, D. Ward, Dallas Def)

Terrorist Fist Jabs 60.53 (D. Akers, Phi Def)
GoldenGirls 43.30 (M. Barber)

Back off jackoff 55.02
Springfield Isotopes 53.82 (N. Folk)
 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on December 14, 2008, 11:39 PM
Every game had a lot riding on the Sunday Night Game so here are the updated scores:

SGC Airmen 71.34 (D. McNabb)
The Cranes 68.31

Hawaiian Curse 65.19 (B. Westbrook)
Dressel's Rebellion 75.50

Terrorist Fist Jabs 60.53 (Rob Wins but still has two players left)
GoldenGirls 45.03

Back off jackoff 55.02 (Final)
Springfield Isotopes 55.82

Close games all around. Brent's five-headed monster in the backfield sure is impressive.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2008, 02:39 PM
Terrorist Fist Jabs 60.53 (Rob Wins but still has two players left)
GoldenGirls 45.03

Not if David Akers misses 16 field goals I don't!   :-*
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 16, 2008, 12:38 AM
Close games all around. Brent's five-headed monster in the backfield sure is impressive.

Not impressive enough :'(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on December 16, 2008, 01:47 AM
It would have been had the Eagles ever bothered to hand the ball off tonight... :-X

Even when they were up the entire game they still had Donovan throwing picks. With as many trips to the RZ as Philly had I still can't believe they didn't give it to him at all.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on December 18, 2008, 10:27 PM
It would have been had the Eagles ever bothered to hand the ball off tonight... :-X

Even when they were up the entire game they still had Donovan throwing picks. With as many trips to the RZ as Philly had I still can't believe they didn't give it to him at all.

What are you talking about?  They gave it to Westbrook at the 2 yard line and he couldn't get it in - you can only give a guy so many chances.  I had two games riding on Westbrook NOT scoring, so thanks to his inability to score, I'm playing in three Superbowl games this week.  Woohoo!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 18, 2008, 11:18 PM
Gimme a ******* break.  "You can only give it to a guy so many times"?  You mean the guy who scored 7 touchdowns in the preceding two weeks?  A goalline stand by a D that prevents a running back from scoring invalidates any attempts for the rest of the game?  Shake yer head.  I'm happy you won your games in other leagues, but honestly, do you think your logic stands up in the real world?  Go look at a game on tv and see your conclusion fail miserably.  Inability to score?  Sure, ok.   ::)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on December 19, 2008, 12:03 AM
Gimme a ******* break.  "You can only give it to a guy so many times"?  You mean the guy who scored 7 touchdowns in the preceding two weeks?  A goalline stand by a D that prevents a running back from scoring invalidates any attempts for the rest of the game?  Shake yer head.  I'm happy you won your games in other leagues, but honestly, do you think your logic stands up in the real world?  Go look at a game on tv and see your conclusion fail miserably.  Inability to score?  Sure, ok.   ::)

Um...it was a joke Brent.   :-*

On a serious note, they did give it to him at the 2 and I was surprised he didn't get it again at the 1, but the clock was running down and I don't think they wanted to risk a running play.  They never got that close again int he 3rd and didn't need to wear him out playing him in the 4th quarter.  It sucks, but it happens I guess.  Maybe the coaching staff figured he had gotten more than his share of the action the last few weeks and wanted to get other players involved?  Or maaaaybe it was just my mojo hex on him that ruined his luck for the week. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 19, 2008, 12:21 AM
Sorry, seriously, seriously bitter about that loss.  Really.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 21, 2008, 10:54 PM
Holy crap, I went to the Bucs game today and sometime between when I left for the stadium and when I got to the stadium Chad Johnson went from probable, to inactive.  I was going to be seriously mad if I'd lost by anything less than the total points scored by Santonio Holmes (who I'd have started).  Lucky for me it looks like it's going to work out... please no 4th quarter Jacobs fumbles.


Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on December 21, 2008, 11:44 PM
Two superbowl wins in other leagues today and my third depends on Ryan Grant getting 50 combined yards or more.  Come on Packers!
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 21, 2008, 11:56 PM
I'm in 4 leagues and I'm playing in 3 championships.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on December 22, 2008, 12:01 AM
I'm in 4 leagues and I'm playing in 3 championships.

And I'm really excited to be playing my arch fantasy sports nemesis here at JD, but I do fully expect him to win.   :-\



Nice game, Rob. I was hoping that Carolina could hold Jacobs in check  :-\ In some way, I'm glad it didn't come down to Ocho Stinko becoming inactive right before the game.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 22, 2008, 12:02 AM
Thanks Matt, I was honestly shocked to get home tonight and hear that I was in striking distance.  I fully expected your team to score about what they did, but I expected about 30 fewer from my guys.


I'm really excited to be playing my arch fantasy sports nemesis here at JD, but I do fully expect him to win.   :-\


I take back what I said on the last page... I'm in 4 leagues, and I have two championship games next week.

This weeks game was the Championship in the other, and I won.   8)

The last league (the Rebelscum league), I came in 5th only to find out that there were only 4 playoff spots.  I won last week, and I won this week in the consolation bracket - lame, lame league set up to only have 5 playoff spots.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 22, 2008, 11:19 AM


I'm really excited to be playing my arch fantasy sports nemesis here at JD, but I do fully expect him to win.   :-\



The gorilla is back!

(http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060219/060219_CinGorilla_vmed.widec.jpg)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 22, 2008, 12:47 PM
Shouldn't be >:(
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 22, 2008, 04:27 PM
(http://www.memphismemories.org/Topics/Radio_TV/1960s_Network_TV/underdog.jpg)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 26, 2008, 10:11 PM
Nice work snatching up Davenport while I was busy driving from Tampa to Dallas.  You win, okay?  We get it.   ::)

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 28, 2008, 09:38 AM
Nice work snatching up Davenport while I was busy driving from Tampa to Dallas.  You win, okay?  We get it.   ::)



You must be kidding.

2 years ago I had the dominant team and won the Super Bowl game.  Last season I had a 20-something point edge over Ryan and got beat by Chris Redman and the at-the-time-little-known-or-accomplished Pierre Thomas.

You want me to take my foot off your neck when you're fielding the likes of Philip Rivers, Tony Gonzalez, Hines Ward and Joseph Addai?

You must be kidding.

Okay I'll stop improving my roster, you know when?  When you bench your team and start nobody.

Yeah I have an edge today in all probability, but it's far from a sure thing and I'm the first to admit it, and if you won't see last year's victory for Ryan as proof.

I'm playing hard till the last snap, and we'll see how this unfolds.

Good luck.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 28, 2008, 06:09 PM
You must be kidding.

Yeah, I was.  I'd have done the same thing. 

2 years ago I had the dominant team and won the Super Bowl game.  Last season I had a 20-something point edge over Ryan and got beat by Chris Redman and the at-the-time-little-known-or-accomplished Pierre Thomas.

You want me to take my foot off your neck when you're fielding the likes of Philip Rivers, Tony Gonzalez, Hines Ward and Joseph Addai?

You must be kidding.

Okay I'll stop improving my roster, you know when?  When you bench your team and start nobody.

Yeah I have an edge today in all probability, but it's far from a sure thing and I'm the first to admit it, and if you won't see last year's victory for Ryan as proof.

I'm playing hard till the last snap, and we'll see how this unfolds.

Good luck.

Like I said, I was kidding.  All week I've been 100% convinced that I didn't stand a chance.  No Jacobs, Addai was supposed to play about 10 snaps, Ward and Holmes were supposed to be out, Chad Johnson is out, Lance Moore hasn't caught a TD in about a month...

It's clearly working out for me, but all week I was desperately looking for a starting RB, guessed on the wrong Colts back-up, and was a little annoyed by it. 
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on December 28, 2008, 06:24 PM
Congrats Rob...and you guys are luck as hell I wasn't in the Playoffs, my team was scoring 70+ the last 3 weeks.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 28, 2008, 06:37 PM
Congrats Rob...and you guys are luck as hell I wasn't in the Playoffs, my team was scoring 70+ the last 3 weeks.

Thanks Scott!

But for the record, my team scored 88 and 82 the last two weeks and am sitting at 100+ this week with Phillip Rivers still to go, so I think I'd have been alright if you'd been in the tournament.   8)

Although, if the championship game had been last week between these two teams, Dressel would have won.

All of that said, I'm still very open to moving the championship back to week 16 next season.  I've seen the light on that one, even though I'm getting away with it at the moment.  I think we should have the last game while everyone is at full strength.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Matt Carroll on December 28, 2008, 08:09 PM
Congrats Rob.   ;D

I'm all for moving up the playoffs one week, so that the Championship is in week 16 next year as well.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: ruiner on December 28, 2008, 08:44 PM
Congrats Rob.

And I agree with Matt with regards to moving the championship up one week.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Morgbug on December 29, 2008, 01:03 AM
Congrats Rob, an incredible score for the final week :o

I'm also open to moving things up a week, given my dismal showing today ::)  Congrats to chuckles for winning the losers bracket :-X

I think I might have held off Scott and Mikey in another pool to see some gold in the morning.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Scott on December 29, 2008, 08:22 AM
Congrats Rob, an incredible score for the final week :o

I'm also open to moving things up a week, given my dismal showing today ::)  Congrats to chuckles for winning the losers bracket :-X

I think I might have held off Scott and Mikey in another pool to see some gold in the morning.
You can thank the 49ers for that one ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 29, 2008, 09:22 AM
Well that was an old-fashioned butt whooping.

Congrats Rob.

Even though I was beaten the last 2 years in the Super Bowl, it did provide a lot of excitement being in 3 straight championship games and finishing 1st, 2nd, and 2nd in the past 3 seasons.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 29, 2008, 11:19 AM
Thanks.   :)

I had a pretty strong year this year.  4 leagues, two championships and a second place.  The other was a 5th place finish in a league that only had 4 playoff teams (I'd have done better if I'd been in the playoffs with the 5th seed).  I also came up with a silver in the Salary Cap.

Four new trophies out of 5 leagues.   :)


Now I need to go see how badly my neglected hockey and basketball teams are and if there's anything I can do to salvage them (unlikely).
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Ryan on December 29, 2008, 03:39 PM
I've not really been online at all in the last week or so, so I haven't been paying real close attetion to all of this. Congrats to Dressel for whippin my ass in the semis, I had a feeling that was coming. My lack of depth at RB was bound to catch up with me at some point. I think I had a pretty lucky run all year and my luck finally ran out.

Congrats to Rob on the big championship. It is only fitting that the guy in 1st almost the entire season wins the whole thing.
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: JediJman on December 30, 2008, 11:19 PM
Congrats on the win Rob!  I still think we should toss in a few bucks or an extra figure each or something for next year's league.  I would have dominated this year if I just had a more favorable schedule and a much better team.   ;)
Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2008, 11:48 PM
Thanks guys!

We can spice it up next year if everyone still wants to.

Title: Re: JD Fantasy Football 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on December 31, 2008, 07:30 PM
 congrats on the win! :) i hope to be around for the live draft next year. then maybe i can be a little more competitive :)