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Title: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Nicklab on August 28, 2016, 05:50 PM
THIS JTA POSTING (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=18438) shows what seems to be the first wave of ROGUE ONE figures, with a look at the carded front and back of each figure.  Included in this wave are the following:

-Kanan Jarrus (Stormtrooper Disguise)
-K-2SO
-Imperial Stormtrooper
-Sergeant Jyn Erso (Eadu)
-Imperial Ground Crew
-Kylo Ren
-Sabine Wren

The carded back images show enough detail where you can read the character bio.  And there's a segment of the cardback that also highlights the new Hasbro Star Wars StudioFX App, which allows you to make videos with your Star Wars toys.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Scockery on August 28, 2016, 06:27 PM
Not too bad for 5 POA GARBAGE  >:(

Seriously, not a bad line-up. Kylo Ren's probably the least interesting. But he sells, so it's no surprise he's in there. Kanan's figure comes a bit too late, but it happens. I guess Sabine is getting a 3rd season makeover, too.

No more build-a-thingies. Instead zip-lines, gear and the old stand-by of launching weapons.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Nicklab on August 28, 2016, 07:00 PM
It looks okay.  And okay is about as far as I'm prepared to go at this point in time.

The interesting point?  The Imperial Ground Crew.  Looking at that figure and it's accessories, I'm finally putting the pieces together with the images of Jyn Erso in the Imperial uniform at the end of the ROGUE ONE teaser.  Because based on these new images I think she's in a Ground Crew uniform, and not a TIE Pilot flight suit like a lot of people have previously theorized.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Rob on August 28, 2016, 08:45 PM
The articulation is crap, but the level of detail looks good.  Hopefully these aren't more than about $6.99.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Darby on August 28, 2016, 09:11 PM
Good call on the Jyn being in the Ground Crew uniform - the sticks seem to give it away. Also the chest box is identical to hers. I really like all these. The Stormtrooper is sick. If this indeed all there is as has been rumored than I'd be very surprised. Doesn't add up though as there are 7 figures which is one too many if they keep with the 2 per case distor they have now. Also, unless someone knows different, aren't there still two 5 POA assortments as there are now? The Rey we saw at SDCC is in the same assortment as these B7072, so either this isn't everyone or she's coming later.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Scockery on August 29, 2016, 12:10 AM
They'll short change the ladies at one per case just annoy everyone. Can't have a Sabine figure fans can actually find now, can we?
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Diddly on August 29, 2016, 09:15 AM
Is that a kitbashed Kylo? Appears to have the body of the helmetless version. Which is the version I wish we were getting.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on August 29, 2016, 10:33 AM
Also, unless someone knows different, aren't there still two 5 POA assortments as there are now? The Rey we saw at SDCC is in the same assortment as these B7072, so either this isn't everyone or she's coming later.

It sounds like we are back to one basic figure assortment, not two.  Also sounds like the "two of everyone per case" thing is gone again.

Head-wrap Rey is rumored to be in Wave 2 with Chirrut, Jyn #2, Krennic, Cassian, Rebels Leia, and Vader.  Wave 2 may or may not be available at launch, depends on how much gets shipped in time.


Is that a kitbashed Kylo? Appears to have the body of the helmetless version. Which is the version I wish we were getting.

Someone (maybe Jayson at Yakface?) said they thought it looked like the hood and body from the Unmasked "Ben" Kylo, but with the Armor Up helmeted head instead of the Unmasked Ben head.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 29, 2016, 05:51 PM
The Kylo Ren was entirely NOT NECESSARY for this wave - they should have kept it to the four Rogue One figures and the two Rebels figures and shipped them at 2x per case. At least that way, those of us who wanted to skip Farce Friday 2016 could just order a case of these and be done with anything new until the movie comes out...
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Nicklab on August 29, 2016, 06:20 PM
Kylo Ren is necessary FOR HASBRO.  And for the retailers.  Why?  Because he sells through.  He has sold through on refresh case after refresh case of third tier characters.  And he probably will in this instance, too.

Hasbro is not going to blow their ROGUE ONE load on a single wave of figures.  Especially since the ROGUE ONE line launch will no doubt feature more than a single wave of 3.75" Basic Figures.  The launch will probably consist of at least 2 waves of basic figures, 1 wave of deluxe figures, 1 wave of 6" figures, and 1 wave each of Class I, II and III vehicles.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Rob on August 29, 2016, 08:25 PM
I just hope they come up with something better than those God awful Armor Up figures for deluxe.  Those were horrible in terms of value, creativity, playability... Everything.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: CHEWIE on August 29, 2016, 10:18 PM
I agree, the "armor up" crap is probably the worse thing TFA Hasbro did.

Weird - at Walmart, they clearanced them out.  But kept the 2-pks in their planogram.

At Target, the exact opposite... I don't get it.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on August 29, 2016, 11:10 PM
WM's clearancing is always a mess and up to the store managers to a degree.  Mine have clearanced TBS (any of it) and I think deluxe and 2-packs...  basics are on rollback, as it were, but ships are all full price and there is a ton.  I'd not mind a clearanced TIE and to scarf up those Ezra bikes. :x
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: CHEWIE on August 29, 2016, 11:52 PM
The TIE fighters are on clearance in my area at Target - something like $23, I believe.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 30, 2016, 11:38 AM
Kylo Ren is necessary FOR HASBRO.  And for the retailers.  Why?  Because he sells through.  He has sold through on refresh case after refresh case of third tier characters.  And he probably will in this instance, too.

Hasbro is not going to blow their ROGUE ONE load on a single wave of figures.  Especially since the ROGUE ONE line launch will no doubt feature more than a single wave of 3.75" Basic Figures.  The launch will probably consist of at least 2 waves of basic figures, 1 wave of deluxe figures, 1 wave of 6" figures, and 1 wave each of Class I, II and III vehicles.

Actually, I think there will only be one 3.75" 5POA wave at launch. There was a lot of confusion with retailers regarding Jungle/Space/Desert/Snow assortments which was further complicated when not enough product hit stores for the Force Friday launch and managers arbitrarily starting limiting how many of each assortment you could buy.

I think the retailers would want the launch to be as simple as possible which means 1 case of each item type.

Based on the character list of Rogue One, there are a lot more than four characters in Rogue One, especially since the first wave appears to have just Jyn, K2S0, Stormtrooper & Deathtrooper - that leaves plenty of Rogue One characters for Hasbro to put in future assortments - I hardly see how those four figures is Hasbro "blowing their Rogue One load".

The inclusion of Kylo Ren - throws the case off packing ratio wise, which is a frustration more than anything else. A nice 2x pack-out would mean that you could order from EE or JTA and skip the nonsense of Force Friday. He also doesn't sell out, in the local stores around me, there was regularly 5POA Kylo re-releases from the PZ / Goss wave and I'm pretty sure I could walk into at least one of my local WMs right now and score the 3.75" TBS exclusive Kylo Ren. He was done to death and the only version anyone is interested in is the one with his helmet off. If a Kylo Ren absolutely had to be in there, a battle damaged version from during the fight with Rey would have made much more sense.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Dave on August 30, 2016, 12:13 PM
Do we know what the case pack is supposed to be?  I'm assuming its the usual 12 figures per case.  That may mean that Kylo will be packed at just one per case with one of the other figures.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Nicklab on August 30, 2016, 01:00 PM
Your mistake is in thinking that Hasbro has a collectors mindset at the core of their strategy.  They don't.  They have a business model that is geared towards mass sales in a movie year.  Those more casual buyers are the target market for this Kylo Ren, and that's probably who will buy those figures.

And a battle damaged Kylo Ren?  Guess what?  That will be coming.  But not before Hasbro and the retailers sell through this one, and at least another three months pass.  Maybe we'll see that at Toy Fair 2017, but probably not any time before that.  ROGUE ONE is going to be the focus now, and we're going to see some REBELS and other saga characters sprinkled in until we get to the whole EPISODE 8 cycle.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: CHEWIE on August 30, 2016, 05:12 PM
As much as I don't need more 5POA Kylo Ren figures, I see why Hasbro's including him.  It's healthy for retail too.

As a matter of fact, it would be better for retail if General Lando was not being repacked in the 3.75 TBS line... repacking TBS Kylo would be actually be better when talking about sales.  Though I'd rather them pack the First Order Stormtrooper again instead of either of those.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 30, 2016, 06:14 PM
I think they did repack Kylo in TBS line.  I saw a few on the pegs the other day when I found Han and Rey.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 30, 2016, 06:52 PM
I think they did repack Kylo in TBS line.  I saw a few on the pegs the other day when I found Han and Rey.

They did - as well as the First Order Stormtrooper, Finn and Rey - as a mix of figures completely ignoring the previous waves, that last case had a pretty good mix of figures. The only way it could have been better would have been to include Chewie and Poe instead of ROTJ Luke and Vader.

And a battle damaged Kylo Ren?  Guess what?  That will be coming.  But not before Hasbro and the retailers sell through this one, and at least another three months pass.  Maybe we'll see that at Toy Fair 2017, but probably not any time before that.  ROGUE ONE is going to be the focus now, and we're going to see some REBELS and other saga characters sprinkled in until we get to the whole EPISODE 8 cycle.

You realize your paragraph contradicts itself. If Rogue One is the focus AND Darth Vader is in it AND they want to sprinkle in REBELS since it's an active show, logically, omitting Kylo Ren makes sense.

I'm not prophetic but post this push of Wave 1 figures this coming Sept 30th, I forsee nothing but a sea of unsold Kylo Ren figures with a Kanan in Stormtrooper Armor being a close second. Sabine won't be packed 2-per-case so she'll be the one everyone grabs for and the four ROGUE ONE figures will sell easily.

Healthy or not, Kylo Ren appearing in every assortment eventually will turn into too much of a "good" thing.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Nicklab on August 30, 2016, 07:47 PM
It's about the ratios of product.  Just look at the lineup for this wave along with the Star Wars Universe 2-packs.

3.75" Basic Figure Wave 1
-4 x ROGUE ONE figures
-2 x REBELS figures
-1 x TFA figure

3.75" Universe 2-pack Wave 1
-2 x ROGUE ONE 2-packs
-1 x TFA 2-pack

The line largely focuses on the new movie, but serves the current animated series along with a few select offerings from the most recent Saga film.  It's going to be a fine balancing act with a new movie every year.  But this sort of line might be what works.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Darby on August 30, 2016, 07:51 PM
I'm sure there will come a point when Kylo isn't the new hot thing, but that won't be anytime soon. He's the new Boba Fett or Darth Maul. He moves and I doubt - could be wrong - he will be lingering anywhere from these assortments. I don't think we know everything yet on this new assortment. If these are the only figures in Wave 1, I'll be surprised. With the success of TFA, it wouldn't make sense for Hasbro to retreat on SKU's or assortments, but I'm not running their company. If that is all there is, then the case breakdown is most likely something like this:

Kylo (2)
Jyn (2)
K2-SO (2)
Stormtrooper (2)
Ground Crew (2)
Kanan (1)
Sabine (1)
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Nicklab on August 31, 2016, 11:22 AM
I think the case pack might be more like:

Jyn Erso (3)
Kylo Ren(2)
K-2SO (2)
Stormtrooper (2)
Imperial Ground Crew (1)
Kanan (1)
Sabine (1)

And no doubt, there are going to be revision mixes.  We've seen plenty of those.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Scockery on August 31, 2016, 02:54 PM
The case pack will actually be:
Jyn Erso (1)
Stormtrooper (1)
Kylo Ren(5)
Darth Vader (5)
K-2SO (chase figure, 1 per 10 cases)
Imperial Ground Crew (chase figure, 1 per 10 cases)
Kanan (chase figure, 1 per 20 cases)
Sabine (chase figure, 1 per 100 cases)
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on September 2, 2016, 02:12 AM
Way more interested, even at 5POA, in more of these launch figures than I was a year ago.  I'm gonna temper my buying but I could see picking up a few Ground Crew guys as I can get them.

For TFA I got some good prices on stuff at Dollar General, K-Mart, and such if I looked around.  Better than Wal-Mart or Target offered sale-wise, so I'll probably try to do similar this time.

I'm gonna buy that Stormtrooper just for the new rifle w/attachment...  I feel dirty for doing it, given how many vastly superior Stormtroopers I have, but I'm a sucker for a new blaster.  :-[
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Diddly on September 2, 2016, 01:25 PM
Army builders are actually most of the 5POA figures I've purchased. Most of my stuff is on a shelf anyway, might as well buy 2 or 3 to replace the yellowing troopers and fill out the ranks. The Stormtrooper will be good for that too.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: McMetal on September 13, 2016, 10:45 AM
I found this wave yesterday at 2 different Kroger grocery stores.  ;D

Sabine and Kanan are indeed single-packed. Sabine was missing from the first store but I found her at the second, THANK GOD.

Seriously, I am relieved to have found these two, especially Sabine, as it's one less thing I have to worry about on Farce Friday.

They are both great figures BTW, at least as far as I can tell from inside the package. Great sculpts, crisp paint apps, Sabine in particular is just striking.

Happy. Now just need those 6" guys...
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Darby on September 14, 2016, 12:28 PM
If that is all there is, then the case breakdown is most likely something like this:

Kylo (2)
Jyn (2)
K2-SO (2)
Stormtrooper (2)
Ground Crew (2)
Kanan (1)
Sabine (1)

Wow, called it!

http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2016/09/14/3-75-star-wars-universerogue-one-wave-1-breakdown/
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Dave on September 14, 2016, 02:14 PM
They should have made Sabine two per case and K2-SO one per.  I just hope future revision cases continue to have Sabine in them or pack her two per so everyone can eventually find one.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on September 14, 2016, 07:09 PM
Dunno if I agree with that...  I would've much rather seen Kylo go 1 per case as the repack.  I think K2SO could be a pretty popular character/figure from this movie though.  I'm thinking along the lines of HK47's popularity that seemed to transcend him being a character in a video game (albeit a popular one).

Either way I have to admit this is the first time 5POA figures have me kinda at least interested in owning a couple of them right out of the gate.  I'm not sure I'll pick up a lot yet, and I'm gonna look for sales anywhere I can.  I hope Dollar General gets in wave 1 like last year.  They've often got a $ amount off coupon on their app.

Sabine as a 1x on launch day does kinda blow though.  Kid-focused character supposedly...  Rebels is very off Hasbro's radar at times, in a weird way.  It's become like the opening act for the movie every year really, and Hasbro's out on the concourse getting beer with the rest of the crowd.  :-\
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Darby on September 14, 2016, 10:43 PM
I agree K2 has the potential to be a popular figure. He'll definitely get a SA version, which I may hold out for, though this one appears to have a greater range of movement than the typical 5 POA offering. I'd prefer Sabine be more available just to avoid the echo chamber that happens any time a certain figure is short packed - she's rare! I can't find her! But not too worried about it.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on September 14, 2016, 10:48 PM
Yeah I don't give 2 poos on Rebels stuff, so she's not on my list, but making her hard to find out of the gate is just gonna be a complain-a-palooza and Hasbro is already sneaking a repack in...  I get it, Kylo is the new Darth Maul (or so goes the hope) and he does seem to sell.  Even his deluxe figure sold better than the others did, and for all intents and purposes, Poe was a pretty unique figure.  Ren was just no hood up, but still harder to find than the others if you were looking it seemed.

That said, I say don't kick off this group on Force Friday with 2 Kylo...  1 wouldn't have hurt anything.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on September 14, 2016, 11:36 PM
I'd prefer Sabine be more available just to avoid the echo chamber that happens any time a certain figure is short packed - she's rare! I can't find her!

Get ready to hear it again in Wave 2 after we learn that Rebels Leia is 1x per case and Darth Vader is 2x per case.  :P

I totally get why Hasbro decided to 2x pack the 'bad guy from the $900 million dollar movie" over 'female character from the cable network cartoon show'.  Shouldn't be a surprise in the kids line.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on September 15, 2016, 12:12 AM
Yeah I don't see this changing either...  Like I said, Rebels doesn't seem like it's that big a deal to Hasbro, and I suppose Disney either...  It's there, it's filler, and it does a job, but it's not an event carrying the franchise like TCW was.

Wonder what ratings have been like for SWR compared to TCW now that we're a little deeper into Rebels for the comparison to be made.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Darby on September 15, 2016, 12:04 PM
Rebels ratings for the last season finale were 1.2 million total viewers:

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/ratings-disney-xd-star-wars-rebels-finale-1201757980/

Ratings for Clone Wars are a bit harder to find but Wikipedia states the premiere was watched by an average of 3 million viewers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_(2008_TV_series)#Reception

I know anecdotally those numbers fell as the show went on.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: CHEWIE on September 16, 2016, 11:40 AM
I have zero interest in 5POA animated figures, so the Rebels short-packed stuff is fine by me.  I could see myself getting Sabine for my son, but he really doesn't seem interested in 5POA figures.  Each time he asks when I show him new figures online - "do these ones bend?" - when I tell him no, he says he doesn't want them then.  Sure, I'm an influence on that but I have noticed he doesn't even touch his 5POA toys at all anymore.  The SA Star Wars and Joes, he plays with a lot.

Anyways... assuming I can find them, I'll probably make purchases about like this...

Kylo - 0
Jyn - 2 or 3 (at least 1 for a custom)
K2-SO - 2 or 3 (at least 1 for a custom)
Stormtrooper - 3 or 4
Ground Crew - 3 or 4
Kanan - 0
Sabine - 1 (only for my son, if he even wants it)
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: P-Siddy on September 16, 2016, 12:21 PM
Anyways... assuming I can find them, I'll probably make purchases about like this...
Ground Crew - 3 or 4

Will we be fighting over these at FF? ;)
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Scockery on September 25, 2016, 05:07 PM
Even I found these things at a Krogers. Street date rape! Bwahahaha!  >:D

But at $10.99 each, I passed. They didn't have Kanan
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 27, 2016, 03:29 PM
I posted a bit about this over on the vehicle thread in my post about finding Hera's A-Wing. So in one WalMart I went to, I got there as the girl working the aisle was putting the figures on the pegs. I asked her if I was allowed to buy them and she said "yes". I took them up to the register but was shut-down. Took the figures back to her, she scanned them and indicated that scanning the figures yielded no information about them being blocked or prohibited from sale. She said maybe it had to do with the fact that she hadn't set the "mod" for the figures yet, which she was going to do later in the morning. So I left and thanked her for the help.

This morning I went into the store to find 2x of Kylo Ren, 2x of the Imperial Ground Crew and 1x of K-2SO on the pegs - the remaining figures were gone.

I took those five figures up to the register and was again denied. This time I asked if I could please purchase them as it seems someone else had already purchased the other 12 figures in the case. They indicated that they had the figures up front, but when I asked if I could see them to confirm, they denied my request saying that they couldn't let me see them. So as far as I'm concerned they probably sold a few of them, maybe they had some others, who knows, doesn't matter really.

My point though is that there is nothing on these figures indicating a street date, it's a computer-thing ONLY. So basically this is going to keep happening throughout the week as more and more product starts to trickle in and employees put them out on the shelves...

While I'm never gonna try to "beat" the system and scan and alternate item, it would be nice if I could score a nice percentage of stuff early, so on FF, it's just a matter of hitting a few stores for a few minutes and being "done". I have contemplated the thought if just zeroing in on Kanan and Sabine and then ordering a case from EE of the wave 1 figures.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Dave on September 27, 2016, 03:45 PM
While I'm never gonna try to "beat" the system and scan and alternate item...

I've done this several times before with decent success, especially at a place like Wal-Mart where the general staff IQ seems lower.  Assuming they've got some TFA figures still on the pegs I would grab one TFA figure and all the Rogue One figures I wanted.  I would make sure they scanned the TFA figure first and when the error pops up on the Rogue One figures I would just say there were all on the same peg or were right next to them listed at the same price.  The checkout person has always just modified the quantity of the TFA figure scanned and shoved all the Rogue One figures in the bag.  Then later you can bring back the one TFA figure you don't need.

Either way, I'm going to avoid WM until Friday so I don't get frustrated by the stupidity.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Diddly on September 27, 2016, 04:06 PM
So if these Walmarts are putting stuff out early, will they even have stock to put out on Friday? I can easily see people lining up only to find empty pegs, or the same TFA pegwarmers that have been there for a year. This MM is shaping up to be just as much of a disaster as last year's.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: McMetal on September 27, 2016, 05:40 PM
From what I gather a lot of Walmarts will be putting out large cardboard display stands stocked with 6" figures and the like. There are a few photos out there. Most of the early scores have been single case finds, so if that's all they plan to stock a lot of people would have left disappointed anyway. I'm sure there will be more at most stores. Walmart was literally the only store around here that stocked multiple cases last year.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Diddly on September 27, 2016, 10:12 PM
Found these at a local HEB (grocery store) tonight. They were mixed in on the pegs with the old TFA figures. Looked to have been a fresh case... 2x Jyn, 2x K2, 2x Kylo, 2x Stormtrooper, 2x Ground Crew, 1 Kanan and 1 Sabine. I grabbed a Jyn and a K2 and that'll probably be it for me 3.75 inch wise.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 27, 2016, 10:59 PM
I've done this several times before with decent success, especially at a place like Wal-Mart where the general staff IQ seems lower.  Assuming they've got some TFA figures still on the pegs I would grab one TFA figure and all the Rogue One figures I wanted.  I would make sure they scanned the TFA figure first and when the error pops up on the Rogue One figures I would just say there were all on the same peg or were right next to them listed at the same price.  The checkout person has always just modified the quantity of the TFA figure scanned and shoved all the Rogue One figures in the bag.  Then later you can bring back the one TFA figure you don't need.

While that does work, make sure you do it at a WalMart where you DON'T normally go. The problem downstream would be that the WalMart where you do this would have a negative number of TFA figures to indicate that they sold more than they had in stock and still a positive sock quantity of the new Rogue One figures - that would NEVER decrease. So not until a competent manager/line supervisor figures that the -7 TFA figures really were the +7 R1 figures that are still plaguing the inventory, that store may NEVER see replenishment down the line because from the inventory computer's perspective, 7 R1 figures are peg-warming.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: McMetal on September 28, 2016, 09:48 AM
FWIW, I asked my friend who works at Walmart about that Pete and he swore up and down that this was not true. He said they track inventory by the generic item #, not individual UPC, so whether they sold 6 Zuvios or 6 different R1 figures the inventory is updated accordingly. They don't differentiate between TFA and R1. At least that is my understanding.

Perhaps not all Walmarts handle their business the same way, but I'm not buying this "if you get R1 figures early, that store will definitely never re-stock" stuff. It's just JTA and that one crankypants over at RS that keep perpetuating that myth. Typical Chicken Little clickbait.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jayson on September 28, 2016, 11:27 AM
FWIW, I asked my friend who works at Walmart about that Pete and he swore up and down that this was not true. He said they track inventory by the generic item #, not individual UPC, so whether they sold 6 Zuvios or 6 different R1 figures the inventory is updated accordingly. They don't differentiate between TFA and R1. At least that is my understanding.

Yep, for inventory purposes the TFA and R1 are all under the same # despite them having their own UPC (which you see on the receipt). Basically, when you scan a figure at checkout, and it says denied, that UPC hasn't been assigned to the generic (inventory control) # that coincides with the assortment.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: CHEWIE on September 28, 2016, 06:20 PM
I'm confused.

So does this mean that JTA's concerns are unfounded if someone scanned the other item that IS allowed for sale?
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 28, 2016, 06:36 PM
I'm confused.

So does this mean that JTA's concerns are unfounded if someone scanned the other item that IS allowed for sale?

I am as well - and while that may be the case at WalMart where their inventory control is sketchy at best, I find it hard to believe the same is true at stores like Target where TFA figures had two different DPCIs and R1 has yet a 3rd different DPCI - and Target does use those DPCI numbers for inventory control, not just for locating and placing items on the shelves...
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: McMetal on September 29, 2016, 08:59 AM
I'm confused.

So does this mean that JTA's concerns are unfounded if someone scanned the other item that IS allowed for sale?


Yep. I know it seems out of character for them to post some alarming claptrap, but...oh wait.   :P

Target is definitely a different animal. Their DPCI for all the 6" figures is 087-06-3953. The only one that had a different # was Jango, who somehow got into their system under the old 1951 DPCI.

I saw those new individual DPCI numbers for R1 figures, but I can't help but feel a little skeptical about that because if you search on those numbers on Brickseek or Brickpicker nothings comes up. Also that would be a major change from how they have always handled the line before.

I guess we'll know soon enough!
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Phrubruh on September 29, 2016, 09:26 AM
I wonder if stores will get more than one case of figures. The TRU near me only got two cases of 3 3/4" figures for TFA and were gone within five minutes of their midnight madness opening. Someone bought both cases. There were no figures at all that night and the next day. Just lots of roll play crap they still have on their shelves now.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Rob on September 29, 2016, 11:02 AM
I wonder if stores will get more than one case of figures. The TRU near me only got two cases of 3 3/4" figures for TFA and were gone within five minutes of their midnight madness opening. Someone bought both cases. There were no figures at all that night and the next day. Just lots of roll play crap they still have on their shelves now.

And that's why I'm not bothering this year.  I can wait... hanging out in line, dealing with 100 other people, and then fighting for scraps was such a waste of time...

Hasbro says they're sending more product out this time, but I could still see it going quickly.  Also, it doesn't really matter since all of these will be everywhere within a few weeks anyway.

Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: CHEWIE on September 29, 2016, 01:37 PM
The TRU by me got in over 20 cases of 3.75" Wave 1 that I got to take a sneak peek at over the weekend.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: EpicGon on September 29, 2016, 05:42 PM
Just seen on rebelscum a thread where some guys discuss the differences between classic and rogue one stormie sculpts.


They only said: Rogue one figure is more natural.


I got other differences:

-the black maillot is divided in stripes
-the shinguards edges at the ankles stand out to each side, while in vintage OT it had a tight fit around the leg, more tubular.

This detail is depicted in 1/6 scale Hot Toys Rogue One patrol stormtrooper too.


Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on September 29, 2016, 11:21 PM
Looks like most of these are on Amazon.com now...

K-2SO - http://amzn.to/2cFERp0
Jyn (Eadu) - http://amzn.to/2deb6j2
Imp Ground Trooper - http://amzn.to/2dvPSuX
Imp Stormtrooper - http://amzn.to/2dDZnJ4

Sabine - http://amzn.to/2deaSbU
Kanan Trooper - http://amzn.to/2debD4A
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on September 30, 2016, 12:34 AM
More bill-paying! (#sorrynotsorry  :-X)

Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1 case @ EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSB7072A&id=JE-405087801) - $99.99 plus free shipping
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Scockery on September 30, 2016, 02:49 PM
I didn't notice until group shots how short Imperial Ground Control Crew is. For Jyn head swapping?
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on September 30, 2016, 08:52 PM
I'm guessing so, but yeah, she's tiny.  However, some of the figures are absurdly tall...  Death Trooper with Pao for instance.  He's slenderman.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Scockery on October 1, 2016, 07:18 PM
Imperial Ground Crew seems to be the contendor for biggest peg warmer, too, though it's early to say.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Darby on October 1, 2016, 09:08 PM
Loving all of these so far. I appreciate how articulation is creeping back into the line on figures like K2, who likely doesn't need an SA counterpart at this point, or Jyn. I'd love to see it applied where we feel it makes the most sense, like the Stormtrooper. That would interfere with the SA line though, which is why I wish it would just go away and we get a mainline compromise.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: tmanthegreat on October 2, 2016, 01:39 AM
I haven't gotten any of the carded 3.75" figures yet, save the ones that came with the ships/vehicles I got.  That said, it looks like I may need to get some...  The Capt. Cassian and Imperial Pilot figures that came with the U-Wing and TIE Striker are quite good overall. 
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Darby on October 2, 2016, 01:57 AM
Really wanting the ships, especially the Striker. I love the TIE pilot and hope we see more of him later single carded. I'm holding off for now on the ships but must buys. Didn't buy any TFA ships except for Rey's speeder.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: tmanthegreat on October 2, 2016, 02:48 PM
I was in a local Big Lots store this morning, checking out the annual restock of the Power Team Elite military figures & vehicles when I saw they had the complete wave 1 of the Rouge One figures :o  That didn't take long for them to show up at second-hand retail...  They were priced at $8.00 a piece - slightly more expensive than Target & Walmart, but cheaper than Toys R Us.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Diddly on October 5, 2016, 08:33 PM
So on a whim this afternoon I bought the kitbash Kylo Ren. I had noticed that the hood and helmet were a separate sculpt and figured I'd eat the $8 to see if the helmet would fit on the body of the 3.75 inch Black Series Kylo. It's a perfect fit! The 5POA Kylo helmet is a little snug on the TBS neck peg but there are no modifications needed. Plus the removable hood looks much better than the TBS hood with the helmet sculpted on. I'd say it's a much better option that tracking down the Armor Up Kylo, with a small pea sized helmet.

Pics via Twitter (https://twitter.com/travis_banks/status/783822951397232640)
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on October 5, 2016, 09:03 PM
This is pretty interesting man...  It's making that figure appealing actually, something I can't say I considered at all before.

Does the hood pop off easy?
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Diddly on October 6, 2016, 09:30 AM
Very! It's made of a soft, but solid plastic.

This is honestly the Black Series figure we SHOULD have gotten. Now if only I could get the unmasked Kylo at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on October 6, 2016, 06:32 PM
Post some pics if you can, I'd like to check it out.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Rob on October 8, 2016, 05:52 PM
So now I'm in this stretch of time where I have wave 1, haven't seen the movie, and am trying to stay away from spoilers.  So that leaves me with a few questions about the accessories and how to display these figures.

1)  Does K-2SO's big arm attachment accessory thing - is that something he actually has in the movie or is it another over-sized silly accessory for kids?

2)  Same question about the Imperial Ground Crew's big backpack?  I'm guessing this is just a dumb accessory for kids right?

3)  The Stormtrooper's chest armor / pauldron attachments...  Is this just a poorly executed way to give you the option of displaying the figure as a Stormtrooper or Sandtrooper or is there some significance to it?  i.e., do I just toss those?  Leave them all on?  Mix them up?
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Scockery on October 8, 2016, 06:27 PM
There's an awesome battle sequence that involves zip lines and giant hand held and backpack missile launchers, the stormtroopers have reactive armor that falls off when they get hit (Disney wanted minimal bloodshed).  8)

The pauldrons appear, the rest are probably silly accessories.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jeff on October 10, 2016, 10:03 AM
2)  Same question about the Imperial Ground Crew's big backpack?  I'm guessing this is just a dumb accessory for kids right?

Nope, there is a big scene in the movie where all the ground crew stop using their light batons to help Imperial Shuttle craft land and jump into action.  They plug the batons into the back of their suit and thier costumes light up and then they use the batons to create "hard light flight backpacks" and jump into the battle to take down X-Wings.

Here's a pic from right before the backpacks form...

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/tron/images/5/57/BG01.png/revision/latest?cb=20110327023230)

(or maybe that's from TRON >:D)
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on October 10, 2016, 07:03 PM
This movies gonna blow my sox off!  Emphasis on blow, if those dumbass pack ins are real things. :)
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Rob on October 10, 2016, 07:07 PM
Yeah, I can't tell if Jeff is joking or not.

Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on October 10, 2016, 07:45 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Dave on October 11, 2016, 03:49 PM
So now I'm in this stretch of time where I have wave 1, haven't seen the movie, and am trying to stay away from spoilers.  So that leaves me with a few questions about the accessories and how to display these figures.

Great post!  I struggle with this too. 

I've opened any Rebels/TFA related figures and displayed them, but any Rogue One items that I've snapped up I've simply left packaged in a corner.  I won't open them or really overly inspect them until after the movie is released.  Like you, I don't want to think too hard about the figures and thus the plot of the movie as I would like as much as possible to be surprised by as many story elements as possible.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Rob on October 11, 2016, 05:17 PM
Great post!  I struggle with this too. 

I've opened any Rebels/TFA related figures and displayed them, but any Rogue One items that I've snapped up I've simply left packaged in a corner.  I won't open them or really overly inspect them until after the movie is released.  Like you, I don't want to think too hard about the figures and thus the plot of the movie as I would like as much as possible to be surprised by as many story elements as possible.

Smart.  I don't really have the will power or space for that, I wanted to get them opened up and worked into the shelves as quick as possible... Sunday's project was compressing the space all the ROTS figures were taking up to make a new gap between that and ANH.   I've probably got room for 40 or 50 figures at most, so now I'm hoping they don't make quite as many figures for this as they did for TFA.    :-\
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 13, 2016, 01:09 AM
So my mom got my son a couple of the new Rogue One figures for his birthday...one of which is the imperial ground crew.  I hope he uses that jet pack in the movie!  :D
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on October 13, 2016, 01:16 AM
Surely someone who directs traffic has an exciting part to play.  It is Star Wars after all, where everyone is tied to everything important in some secret way.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on October 14, 2016, 02:25 AM
Wow K-Mart finally put out some R1 figures!  I have held out because in my heart I'm not a 5POA guy...  but I am a customizer, so I wanted them but on my terms.  Used points and picked up Wave 1 plus some extras of Wv1 I wanted.  Left all the Rebels stuff though. 
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Diddly on October 14, 2016, 09:48 AM
Gotta say, after finding out about all of the headswaps you can make, the 5POA figures have been enticing, much more so than the TFA ones. I think I bought maybe 6 total TFA figures and have almost matched that already.
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Scockery on October 14, 2016, 06:48 PM
The Goss Trooper is the best....Goss Toowers head on Resistance Trooper body. The other half is an odd midget, but...
Title: Re: Rogue One 3.75" Wave 1
Post by: Jesse James on October 17, 2016, 11:37 PM
Got around to opening my figures from Wave 1 recently...  They just NOW surfaced at K-Mart stores here, and I'd hoarded points to use on them so I basically got them all for free.

I picked up multiples of the Stormie, the ground crew figure, and K2SO for some customizing/articulating projects. 

I got a Kylo for the head swap too, and I gotta say, wow...  that worked perfectly.  It's amazing looking, honestly.  If only I had an unmasked head for an ultimate Kylo Ren!

Anyway, noticed something on Jyn's figure...  more to the point, her pistol.

It appears to be based on a German Luger, if that handle and the slide on the back are any indication.  Kinda neat seeing them carry on the use of classic weapons as the basis for Star Wars blasters...  Lucas got away from that with the PT I felt. 

Is this just because it looked cool to Edwards or is it an actual homage to the originals?  I like to think it's the latter, but either way I thought it was cool.

Also I was surprised her poncho is a separate piece...  I assume they're maybe re-using parts between this figure and the hooded Jedha version?  If only her hat were removable.   :-\

Oh, and I was also shocked to find she has actually MORE articulation than 5POA...  for reasons I can't figure out, she has wrist articulation.  It serves little purpose without elbow articulation, but hey, it's progress!  :-X

If she had at least angle-cut elbows, she'd be a pretty fun figure to pose I think.  Knees would be nice too, but just simple angle-cut elbows like Captain Antilles from the Saga Line had, and she'd be able to pose like she's firing a weapon with 2 hands...  I'd be happy to see that.