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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => 30th Anniversary Collection => Topic started by: Reid on June 24, 2006, 06:46 PM
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From RS:
3 3/4" Expanded Universe 2-Packs:
Finally the EU collectors time has come. Hasbro plans on releasing no less than 12 Expanded Universe two packs.
6 have already been confirmed, what do you think the other 6 will be?
Marvel:
-Jaxxon (Green Bunny Guy) & Hoojib
Dark Horse:
-Koffi Arana (Fugitive Armor) & 501st Captain
-Lt. Janek Sunber & Amanim Warrior
KOTOR/KOTOR 2:
-Darth Malak & Jolee Bindo
-Atton Rand & Sith Trooper
Ewok Adventure TV Movies:
-Noa Briqualon & Sanyassan Marauder
Thoughts?
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Wow, looks like I will be passing on a bunch of stuff. I do not care for game stuff that is why I do not have a Scorch (that and I could not find him either).
I have never read a SW comic so that excuses me from the rest. ;D
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Where does it say the green rabbit is confirmed? I cant seem to find it.
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I can't really speculate as to what figures the remaining 6 might be, but do we think it;s safe to say that these will be non- cartoonish sculpts?
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I can't really speculate as to what figures the remaining 6 might be, but do we think it;s safe to say that these will be non- cartoonish sculpts?
I'd assume so. As much as I liked the Animated CW line, I'd still prefer relistic style sculpts.
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I like the concept of getting FIGURES from the Marvel Comics, just not the prospect of Comic Colors and Cartoony styling...
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Hasbro has said before that they aren't going to do cartoon-y sculpts anymore...
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Republic Commando
Commando Boss/ Commando Sev
Commando Fixer/ Commando Niner
Commando Fi/ Commando Atin
Commando Darman/ Jedi Etain Tur-Mukan
Star Wars:Droid
C-3PX /C-3PO
Clone Wars
Roron Corobb/Magna- Guard
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Those RC packs would rule! But instead of that Jedi being in the packs, they should just make 2 complete Delta squad packs and 2 complete Omega squad packs so that everyone can have another chance at getting Scorch.
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Well,Darman & Etain did love each other & even had a kid! :o
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I think these EU packs are going to be a lot of fun... I would think most of them will have a main character we are familiar with in them... So here's my guess, or at least what I'd like to see.
All new sculpts -
Heir to the Empire #1
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Noghri Warrior
Heir to the Empire # 2
Princess Leia
Mara Jade
Heir to the Empire # 3/b]
Luke Skywalker
Talon Kardde
New Jedi Order # 1
Nom Anor
Anakin Solo
New Jedi Order # 2
Jag Fel
Jaina Solo
New Jedi Order # 3
Onimi
Jacen Solo
:)
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I can't remember the names but Ulic Qel Droma and his brother Cay Qel Droma might be okay? Or even Joruus C'Baoth and the Nogri Warrior.
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I would love Jaxxon but I cant remember hearing anything about him coming out.
I would like these 3 2-packs from Marvel.
1) Jaxxon and Amazia
2) Cody Sunchilde and Inner Demon
3) Kiro and Dani
I would like these 3 2-Packs from Dark Horse.
1) Tycho Celchu and Wes Janson
2) Dllr Nep and Ilo Plourr
3) Corran Horn and Gavin Darklighter
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Dark Horse Comics:
Jeisel and K'Kruhk
A'shared Hett and Skorr
Tholme and T'ra Saa
Glaive and Zule Xiss
Knol Ven'nari and Nico Diath
Alto Stratus and Vaabesh
Those are my pics. Im sure most of you will ask "Who's that?" with most or all of them. They're all Jedi except Alto Stratus. ;D
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Star Wars: Republic
Jedi Master Tholme and Akku Seii
A'Sharad Hett and Jedi Master K'Kruhk
Republic Commando
Walon Vau and Kal Skirtata
Etain Tur-Mukan and Bardan Jusik
Atin and Fi
Darman and Niner
BTW MetalJedi...I got it all ;).
EDIT: I left out all the OT and beyond! Oh noes! :o
X-Wing
Corran Horn and Mirax Terrik
Iella Wessiri and Wes Janson
Star Wars: Empire
Janek Sunber and Amanin Warrior
Deena Shan and Wyl Tarson
Star Wars: Legacy
Deliah Blue and Cade Skywalker
Darth Talon and Elke Vetter
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god i'm so sick of those guys on rebelscum !
so are they any of them in here ready to attack me?
sounds like you guys are in the same mindset regarding the final six...more Novel-based than seventies comics.
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X-Wing
Corran Horn and Mirax Terrik
Iella Wessiri and Wes Janson
The only way I'll get really excited about these EU 2-packs is if they start plucking X-Wing Comic/Novel characters out.
I'd love to get some of those Rogue Squadron figures - this would be the perfect way to finally get a Hobbie or a Janson or a Tycho or any of those alien Rogue Squad pilots.
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Heir to the Empire #1
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Noghri Warrior
Heir to the Empire # 2
Princess Leia
Mara Jade
Heir to the Empire # 3/b]
Luke Skywalker
Talon Kardde
How could you possibly ask for 6 Heir-series figures and favor resculpts over Jorus C'baoth?!
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X-Wing
Corran Horn and Mirax Terrik
Iella Wessiri and Wes Janson
The only way I'll get really excited about these EU 2-packs is if they start plucking X-Wing Comic/Novel characters out.
I'd love to get some of those Rogue Squadron figures - this would be the perfect way to finally get a Hobbie or a Janson or a Tycho or any of those alien Rogue Squad pilots.
Let me second that. The only Star Wars EU Novels I have read are the entire X-Wing Rogue Squadron and Wraith Squadron series.
Every Human Pilot possible would be awesome, I'd buy cases of cases (if they were Super Articulated of course).
And the comics lend themselves to better colors at least than the Psychodelic Disco colors of the Marvel lines. I'd love the Rouge Leader packs with Luke, Wedge, Tycho and Janson as well as some of the bad guys throughout the series, like a Baron Fel.
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If I were in charge of Hasbro, here is what I would do. Remeber the micro machines that were from the EU? You open up a book and you had a couple of ships and some mini figures? The books were similar in size to paperbacks. I would go similar to hard backs and have 4 action figures. Here they are:
Novels
Heir to the Empire
-Joruus C'baoth with snap on Force Lightning
-Grand Admiral Thrawn
-Rukh w/ blaster
-Han Solo w/ blaster
Dark Force Rising
-Luke Skywalker w/ lightsaber
-Khbarakh w/ blaster
-Garm Bel Ibis w/ blaster
-Talon Karrde w/ blaster
The Last Command
-Clone Luke w/ lightsaber
-Mara Jade w/ wrist blaster
-Leia Solo w/ blaster and lightsaber
-Captain Pellaeon w/ blaster
Jedi Search-Paperback 2 figs
-Admiral Daala w/ blaster
-Han Solo w/ blaster
Dark Apprentice
-Gantoris w/ lightsaber
-Spirit of Exar Kun
Champions of the Force
-Luke Skywalker w/lightsaber
-Sith Lord Kyp Durron
Darksaber
-Callista w/ lightsaber
-Dorsk 81 w/ lightsaber
-Bevel Lemelisk
-Han Solo w/ blaster
New Rebellion
-Kueller w/ lightsaber
-Brakiss w/ lightsaber
-Luke Skywalker w/ lightsaber
-Leia Solo w/ lightsaber
Comics
Jedi Academy-with cloth robes and lightsaber, from the Leviathan miniseries:
-Kyp Durron
-Dorsk 82
-Streen
-Kirana Ti
Dark Empire 2
-Kam Slousar
-Sedriss
-Jem Ysanna
-Empatojoyous Brand
Tales of the Jedi
-Ulic Qel Droma
-Nomi Sunrider
-Exar Kun
-Tott Doneeta
-Cay Qel Droma
New Jedi Order
-Jacen Solo
-jaina Solo
-Anakin Solo
-Nom Anor
-Yomin Carr
-Vong Warrior (3 different versions to help build army, all have amphistaffs)
-Jagged Fel
-Corran Horn
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I'm a fan of the Heir to the empire series, but I'm not sure how much I want to follow Hasbro down the EU road. Like many of you, I like to get a complete set if I get anything, but so much of the EU product is likely to come from things I am not familiar with, that I am not that interested.
I'm glad Hasbro is moving away from repack after repack, but for my money they would be better off developing some small playsets or diorama builder type toys. I want to show off what I have bought for the last 10 years, not continue packing up box after box in a closet.
I think I will copy those last two sentences for futre pasting, as I seem to be saying it more and more.
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Besides, RC I would also like to see:
NJO/Legacy Era
Jacen Solo
Jaina Solo
Lowbacca w/ Droid
Luke Skywalker
Ben Skywalker
C-3PO
Han Solo
Leia Organa Solo
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Besides, RC I would also like to see:
Last time I checked there weren't any RC comic books...
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They were, but not with Delta & Omega. Who says that comics are the only figures being made? That'll suck, since there's alot of good characters who only appeared in novels.
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They were, but not with Delta & Omega.
linky?
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That'll suck, since there's alot of good characters who only appeared in novels.
I agree, the only novels I've read besides Shadows of the Empire is the Rogue Squadron/Wraith Squadron series. I'd love to see every human pilot in those novels show up in figure form, not to mention all the human naval officers and troopers and pirates....
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They were, but not with Delta & Omega.
linky?
Oh wow...you can search for something on the internet? (http://www.darkhorse.com/reviews/previews.php?theid=10-154) I had no idea! ::)
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Who says that comics are the only figures being made?
Because comics are being included with the figures, so it would make sense that Hasbro's only doing figures of characters that have comics...
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Include a sample of the book with the figure, or for VGs add a demo disc! :)
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Include a sample of the book with the figure, or for VGs add a demo disc! :)
But as you can see on the packaging, it says Star Wars Comic Packs.
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anyone think we'll get duel with a Dark lady, but hopefully not in eighties neon colors? i'd buy one and repaint it if need be for a lumiya.
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Holographic Count Dooku & Holographic General Grievous from Star Wars Republic: Trackdown.
Commander Alto Stratus & Nimbus Commando from Star Wars Republic: The Battle of Jabiim
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anyone think we'll get duel with a Dark lady, but hopefully not in eighties neon colors? i'd buy one and repaint it if need be for a lumiya.
I'd like a Dark Woman Vs new sculpt Aurra Sing 2 pack
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Quinlan Vos vs. Volfe Karkko
or
Quinlan Vos vs. two Morgukai
or
Quinlan Vos vs. Tholme
or
Quinlan Vos vs. Tol Skorr
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Holographic Count Dooku & Holographic General Grievous from Star Wars Republic: Trackdown.
Commander Alto Stratus & Nimbus Commando from Star Wars Republic: The Battle of Jabiim
It's just a matter of time before Hasbro do that in the basic line. :P The other two sound cool though!
Hunter of the pegs, maybe instead of comic it'll say novel packs or game packs.
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I can't really think of too many sets that I'd like to see from Republic, Empire, or any other series, but here are quite a few from Clone Wars.
Star Wars Republic:
Star Corps Trooper vs. Morgukai Warrior (Siege of Saleucami Story Arc)
Clone Wars Adventures
Mace Windu and Battle Droid and half of Ultra Battle Droid (Volume 1: Heavy Metal Jedi)
Saesee Tiin and Clone Trooper and other half of Ultra Battle Droid (Volume 1: Heavy Metal Jedi)
Wookiee Warrior and Flamethrower Trooper (Volume 4:Descent)
Clone Commando Leader and Yellow ARC Trooper (Volume 4: Descent)
SA ARC Trooper and Viidaav Soldier (Volume 5: Heroes on Both Sides)
Clone Trooper Commander and Clone Trooper (Volume 5: The Order of Outcasts)
Joc Sah and Sergeant Remy (Volume 5: The Order of Outcasts)
Jedi Master Sev and Ragmar V Resistance Leader (Volume 5: The Order of Outcasts)
I really would like to post pictures, but I don't have a scanner, nor do I have the time to search for them. Sorry.
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Anf Dec & Nor Fik (Colicoid 2 Pack) from the Jedi Quest Comic Series.
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Durge & Asajj Ventress (New,SA) w/ some Republic Comic that had both of them ini it
General Grievous & Magna- Guard (New,SA) w/ same as above
Scuba Trooepr & Mon Calamari Warrior (New,SA) w/ same as above
:P
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Maybe Hasbro will try to save some money and do a 2-pack of Luke vs. Luuke. ::)
Here's what I'd lke to see:
• Dark Jedi Sora Bulq & Jedi Master Tholme
• Mara Jade & Luke Skywalker (when she was holding him prisoner in Heir to the Empire)
• Bastilla Shan & Darth Malak
• Handmaiden Brianna & Mandalore
• Visas Marr & Darth Nihilus
• Mira & HK-47
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Qymaen jai Sheelal & San Hill w/ Nexu cub from Star Wars: Visionaries - The Eyes of Revolution.
Cyborg Darth Maul & Obi-Wan Kenobi from Star Wars: Visionaries - Old Wounds.
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If I were in charge of Hasbro, here is what I would do. Remember the micro machines that were from the EU? You open up a book and you had a couple of ships and some mini figures? The books were similar in size to paperbacks. I would go similar to hard backs and have 4 action figures. Here they are:
Novels
Heir to the Empire
-Joruus C'baoth with snap on Force Lightning
-Grand Admiral Thrawn
-Rukh w/ blaster
-Han Solo w/ blaster
Dark Force Rising
-Luke Skywalker w/ lightsaber
-Khbarakh w/ blaster
-Garm Bel Ibis w/ blaster
-Talon Karrde w/ blaster
The Last Command
-Clone Luke w/ lightsaber
-Mara Jade w/ wrist blaster
-Leia Solo w/ blaster and lightsaber
-Captain Pellaeon w/ blaster
Jedi Search-Paperback 2 figs
-Admiral Daala w/ blaster
-Han Solo w/ blaster
Dark Apprentice
-Gantoris w/ lightsaber
-Spirit of Exar Kun
Champions of the Force
-Luke Skywalker w/lightsaber
-Sith Lord Kyp Durron
Darksaber
-Callista w/ lightsaber
-Dorsk 81 w/ lightsaber
-Bevel Lemelisk
-Han Solo w/ blaster
New Rebellion
-Kueller w/ lightsaber
-Brakiss w/ lightsaber
-Luke Skywalker w/ lightsaber
-Leia Solo w/ lightsaber
Comics
Jedi Academy-with cloth robes and lightsaber, from the Leviathan miniseries:
-Kyp Durron
-Dorsk 82
-Streen
-Kirana Ti
Dark Empire 2
-Kam Slousar
-Sedriss
-Jem Ysanna
-Empatojoyous Brand
Tales of the Jedi
-Ulic Qel Droma
-Nomi Sunrider
-Exar Kun
-Tott Doneeta
-Cay Qel Droma
New Jedi Order
-Jacen Solo
-jaina Solo
-Anakin Solo
-Nom Anor
-Yomin Carr
-Vong Warrior (3 different versions to help build army, all have amphistaffs)
-Jagged Fel
-Corran Horn
this sounds great except for the han solo's. but then again if it ever happened you know hasbro repack as many ppl as possible
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This may be old news, but I saw at a Target today the pegs for the EU 2-pks, which was kind of cool wondering what these will look like beyond the current marvel-esque vintage ones that have been showing up in some areas.
;)
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Little off topic, but anyone else notice the POTC comic 2 packs from Zizzle at Target now? I had to laugh at how obviously it apes the SW/GI JOE comic concept, and really, how the entire POTC line seems to follow in SW's footsteps (also see pack in coins, and 'sneak preview figs', both also on display now).
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I was thinking about that too Spuffy... Which is cool, I mean Hasbro's blatantly taken ideas in the past from other companies too... Zizzle's doing their thing and it seems to be working. A pretty great toy line, and one I know I'd be into if I was a kid right now.
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I noticed those the other day at Target as well (the POTC comic packs). I didn't have a chance to look closely at them, but there are a lot of similarities to the Star Wars line. I'm often tempted by the line, and I agree with what Jesse mentioned, that would be a line I'd definitely be into if I was a kid now. The Black Pearl ship is like the Flagg of this age ;).
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Little off topic, but anyone else notice the POTC comic 2 packs from Zizzle at Target now? I
Any pics of those?
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I haven't seen any pics of them online, and Target is the only place I've seen them. There's three, all existing figs slightly retooled: Capt. Jack and Elizabeth Swann (the first Swann fig with a new head, no hat) Davy Jones and Will Turner, and Pintel and Ragetti, both with new heads I think.
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What comics are included?
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They appear to be Disney produced comics, but I'm not familiar with them at all.
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cool! i may pick a couple up if theyre on sale.
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Those POTC ones are probally colored the same way as their movie counterparts, probally the only difference from the SW comic line. ;D
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Tac Comic two pack wish list with a 90's SOTE twist!
I wanted to gauge who on the boards would like to see Shadows of the empire figures sneak their way into the comic packs line. I think we need some 90's style action on shelf again, after all it was the first major EU event and helped kick off the craze we know today. The old Nintendo game was pretty killer for the time and there were some cool characters in the story. Many of them never got made. I actually would like to see some props given to the story line. Some people look at it like the bastard Star Wars child only a few levels above the Holiday special. It was not that bad. Yes, at the time Xizor warmed pegs for 2 years, but that was like 9 years ago. 9 years since we saw his ripped up & dusty carded card self on shelf. Remember there were not a lot of Star Wars figures released at that time, now it’s a different story.
I would love to see some resurgence in interest and tell Hasbro. What about:
Dash Rendar & Luke Jedi with yellow vest
Snoova (chewie) & Leebo
Xizor & Guri
Vader & Jix
Anybody else give a rats ass about SOTE? Xizor can even be scented for his intergalactic spanish fly power action. Now who would not want that?
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There's a snowball's chance we'll get it but I'd like to have the red Xizor and Leia in the blue leotard from the scene where Xizor tries to seduce Leia.
Dash, Xizor and Guri are all high on my SOTE wants list, and Luke in his attire would be a very simple kitbash for Hasbro.
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Alto Stratus & Nimbus Commando - Star Wars Republic 56: The Battle of Jabiim
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/b7/Stratus4.jpg)
Cyborg Darth Maul & Obi-Wan Kenobi - Star Wars Visionaries
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/84/Visionaries_Darth_Maul.jpg)(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/2/21/Obi-Wan_Visionaries.JPG/404px-Obi-Wan_Visionaries.JPG)
Cryo Sifo-Dyas & Count Dooku - Star Wars Visionaries
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/65/Sifodyas.jpg)
General Grievous & Soon Baytes - Star Wars: Obsession 4
(http://images3.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/f/f4/TheDeathofSoonBaytes.jpg/418px-TheDeathofSoonBaytes.jpg)
Bacta Tank General Grievous & San Hill w/ Nexu cub - Star Wars Visionaries
(http://images4.wikia.com/starwars/images/4/43/Grievous_tank.JPG)(http://images1.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/89/San_Hill_transforming_Grievous.JPG)
K'kruhk & R2-D2 - Star Wars Legacy
(http://images1.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/d/d2/K%27Kruhk_and_Cade.jpg/600px-K%27Kruhk_and_Cade.jpg)(http://images4.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e4/SWLegacy12p22-specialguest.jpg)
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Some Comic 2-Packs I'd like to see?
-Jedi Master Tyvokka & Senator Ranulph Tarkin - The Stark Hyperspace War
-Cade Skywalker & Force Spirit Luke Skywalker - Legacy
-Darth Krayt & Darth Talon - Legacy
-Wolf Sazen & Darth Nihl - Legacy
-Force Spirit Darth Bane & Force Spirit Darth Nihilus - Legacy
-Micah Giett & Lilit Twoseas - Jedi Council - Acts Of War
-Jedi Lord Hoth & Sith Lord Kaan - Jedi VS Sith
-Darth Bane & Darth Zannah - Jedi VS Sith
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I would love to see some resurgence in interest and tell Hasbro. What about:
Dash Rendar & Luke Jedi with yellow vest
Snoova (chewie) & Leebo
Xizor & Guri
Vader & Jix
Anybody else give a rats ass about SOTE?
I have no need to see resculpts for what they've done already (Dash/Xizor/Snoova), but I wouldn't mind a Guri/Leebo pack since I think those are two figures that they should have done the first time around.
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i thought K'Kruhk & Sian Jeisel
or tholme & sora bulg ( sith 1 )
or T'ra Saa & zao ( i know they werent exactly connected but they were in the same comic so they should atleast something like this )
dont you think???
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There's already a thread for this topic...
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12864.0
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Let's see...
Ysanne Isard with either Sate Prestage or an Imperial Intelligence officer would rock 8)
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i would like to see super articulated Dash Rendar & Guri in a comic pack!
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i would like to see super articulated Dash Rendar & Guri in a comic pack!
If I'm not mistaken Guri is rumored already though not with Dash.
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oh! i did not know that , that is really cool, did you hear if she will be super articulated?
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did you hear if she will be super articulated?
In a comic pack? I doubt it. :P
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thats too bad because she really needs it
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I'd actually love to get a Aubrie Wyn and Nimbus Commando in a comic pack. Although I never followed the comic series, I really liked the two that came out in previous comic 2 packs and really enjoyed these two character...some how doubt either will be made however.
P.s 1000 post! WOOT! 8)
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In a comic pack? I doubt it. :P
I think few figures outside of the vintage line are "Super" articulated, but the comic pack figures have been pretty good lof late. I was very happy with Quinlan Vos & A'Sharad Hett. While not always the case, I think they tend to do a better job if the figure is brand new. I also expect to see better quality now that the price of the line has gone up.
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Really? I think Hasbro's upped super articulation around the line in general quite substantially. Believe me though, I'm the last guy who wouldn't bitch on articulation in the line too, especially at the price of figures today, but in general Hasbro's done pretty well...
Just off the top of my head:
-Juno Eclipse
-Rahm Kota
-Obi-Wan's (ROTS)
-both FU "Troopers"
-almost any army builder in general (Death Star Trooper, Rebel Honor Guard)
That's of course not counting ball/socket torso joints... I think VOTC Han is the "bar" on super articulation, ball/socket torsoes are a bonus when they happen, usually because they can be hidden due to the character design. Anything above/beyond that (VOTC Chewie, V30AC IG-88, etc.) is just gravy then...
But even then, there's TONS of figures in the line just a hair shy of the SA standard then... both Cantina aliens from last year come to mind and they're pretty obscure guys.
Not to derail the thread, I just was thinking the line's improved in articulation tremendously... It's probably the single improvement that has made me still love the hobby and collecting as much as I do. Updates to old figures through articulation, new obscure figures with super articulation... It's great!
On the comic packs...
Don't be so sure. Hasbro, in the Q&A's I believe, said the price hike was due to what they hoped would be more articulation on comic-pack figures. I'm content with some of the ones you guys mentioned like Vos, or Mara Jade, but others fell short (Luke w/Mara sucked a tad, and I felt the "Dark Woman" was below par). If Hasbro's holding true to their word on that price hike going back into figure articulation counts, I'm all for it... The comic packs are nice, the price was nice, but I'd shell out $1 or so more to get TWO great figures instead of one pretty great one and one so-so figure.
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I'm not saying I'm unhappy with articulation in the basic line - I definitely think they've upped their standards in the last year. Just not sure how many of them would qualify as SUPER articulated as the previous posters were commenting. I am hoping we see the newer comic pack figs on par with basic fig mobility.
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More of the Marvel Star Wars comic packs - Jaxxon, Amaiza, Kiro, Bey, Cody Sunchilde, Valance, just to name a few (would like these with SA and no funky colors).
SOTE - Any from here but Dash, Guri, Leebo spring to mind straight off, obviously they could pack or repack the main characters.
THRAWN Trilogy - Captain Pealleon (not sure if thats spelt right), Noghri Bodyguard, C'Boath, just to name a few.
TFU - Shaak Tii and Proxy, any others from the graphic novel that look cool.
DARK EMPIRE - Clone Emperor and Luke Skywalker, and any others they would like to make.