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Title: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on August 29, 2005, 01:04 PM
Ugly as sin…

Covert Ops Trooper (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205&ReferrerID=CJADBN-00001)

(http://shop.starwars.com/kernel/imageload?table=cat_images;ttl2=15;key1=104205_img2;key2=-100_img2)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: SpudTrooper on August 29, 2005, 01:14 PM
man that clone looks aweful but sadly im gonna go get me one since i know i will regret it later if i dont :o  im a sucker for special painted clones and exclusives

thanks for reporting it!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 29, 2005, 01:18 PM
lol, "Limit 5 per customer" (at $13.99 plus shipping)

They can go ahead and limit it to 0 per customer as far as I'm concerned, I doubt I'd pay $5.88 plus tax if it were hanging on a peg hook in WalMart.

What a piece of junk.  Though I'm thankful more EU crap that I don't want or need is exclusive, and not something worthwhile.

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: ruiner on August 29, 2005, 01:34 PM
Yet one more reason to get out of this hobby - I've already started the liquidation....

Neat packaging - horrible figure - $14 is borderline insane for a 3.75" figure.

 >:(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: SpudTrooper on August 29, 2005, 01:36 PM
i think the one of the employees at the SW factory in China screwed up or played with the figure machine so Hasbro decided to make it an exclusive by error.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on August 29, 2005, 01:49 PM
When I first saw it, I thought WTF, another black one? But it actually looks kind of neat. Better than the Target "stealth" one which looks like the only place it could hide itself is among a herd of zebras. But what's with the continuing trend of rape pricing 3¾ inch "exclusives"? That's ******* bull****. This figure "Debuts a new line of troopers being released by Hasbro in the coming months"? What kind of line, a $15 line of 3¾ inch figures that repeatedly re-utilizes existing clone molds?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on August 29, 2005, 02:18 PM
Wow....  just wow.  Based on the color scheme, I'd really like to know where the "Covert Ops" are happening.  Fantasia?  Candyland?  ??? 

Personally, I'll take the $13 Target version over this $14 version.  At least the upcoming Target Stealth Clone has kind of a night camo coloration, this one is just... I don't know. 

There have been so many jokes over the years, but we've finally arrived at "Neon-Camo Armor Batman Clone Trooper" after all...  >:(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on August 29, 2005, 02:23 PM
Maybe he's one of Prince's bodyguards
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 29, 2005, 02:25 PM
At $5.88 I would buy quite a few but at $14.00, I'll be lucky to get one. :(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on August 29, 2005, 02:27 PM
It would be nice if at least the army builder exclusives were available in quantity for $5 each, polybagged, or the ripoff price in "collectible packaging".
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on August 29, 2005, 02:49 PM
here's the next "Exclusive" Covert Ops Clone Trooper


(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/prideclone.jpg)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 29, 2005, 03:00 PM
You forgot the one accessory Hasbro feels the need to pack in for no apparent reason, Jay: THE BIG ASS CANNON!   :P

Just to get my hypocrisy out of the way, I ordered one of these.  I don't think I'll open it since it's EU-related and it would probably look better hanging on a wall than it would sitting on a shelf.  That said, I fully expect to have to open it, since SWS.com isn't doing all that well in the MOC figure department (my Holo Leia, which was promptly returned, arrived crushed beyond belief inside an immaculate shipping box).

Regardless, the thing that bothered me most about the figure was the note that it was the first in a new line of Clone figures coming out this fall.  I can't help but think that, in their new lovey-dovey relationship with the Retail Grandmaster of Collector Spite, Target, the Stealth Clone coming this fall to that retailer and this Covert Ops Trooper (I suppose he was doing some covert ops at Kuat Drive yards and needed to blend in with all the metal  ::) ) are only the beginning.  Then again, I do tend to think the sky is falling, so YMMV.

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 29, 2005, 03:01 PM
Now that's something you don't see every day, an Easter Egg Clone Trooper. :)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on August 29, 2005, 03:06 PM
here's the next "Exclusive" Covert Ops Clone Trooper


(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/prideclone.jpg)

Awesome!  Now get it autographed by one of the two "rainbow" notables - Jesse Jackson or Elton John!   :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on August 29, 2005, 03:18 PM
This is bull. This makes the Target Exclusive black ops clone look like pure genius by comparison. Words cannot adequately describe its crappiness.
**** you Hasbro. **** you SWShop.com. I will not buy this, ever. (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/frech/n040.gif)


Although I have to say, the packaging looks extremely cool, and I would have been a very happy camper if this had been the design for the basic ROTS line.

(http://shop.starwars.com/kernel/imageload?table=cat_images;ttl2=15;key1=104205_img3;key2=-100_img3)


And Jay, I actually would buy that Psychedelic Hippie Clonetrooper just for novelty value. ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Kill_Solo on August 29, 2005, 03:24 PM
I didn't really want to shell 20 bucks (that's with shipping), but I gave in and ordered one.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Brian on August 29, 2005, 03:25 PM
Quote
There have been so many jokes over the years, but we've finally arrived at "Neon-Camo Armor Batman Clone Trooper" after all...

This is what I was thinking when I first saw this as well, it is really starting to get that way it seems.  I'm wonder what this "new line" entails that they have mentioned, perhaps a series of "exclusive $13 Clonetroopers" that includes this one, the upcoming Target one, and maybe some others that we don't yet know about.  I highly doubt I pick this one up, and I'm not sure about the Target one either, but if they were regular, $6 figures I'd consider it more.  Neither one of these is a figure I "need", but maybe if it was a dry spell and it was something new I'd consider it.  That being said, the whole $13+ for a basic figure thing is starting to go too far.  They aren't doing anything special enough with these to warrant that kind of price hike.  Like I said, I (or any of us) can pass if we don't like it...and that's fine...but it still kind of frustrates me that they do this sort of price gouge with a repainted "exclusive" figure.  The packaging is kind of neat though, I'll say that, just for being something different.  At that price, I'm leaning towards a pass on this one.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on August 29, 2005, 03:27 PM
And Jay, I actually would buy that Psychedelic Hippie Clonetrooper just for novelty value. ;D

Maybe I'll make you one… but hippie was not the look I was going for.  ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on August 29, 2005, 03:35 PM
(http://shop.starwars.com/kernel/imageload?table=cat_images;ttl2=15;key1=104205_img2;key2=-100_img2) vs (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-05/targetclone.jpg)

I still like the Target version better... and not just because it's at least $6-7 ($1 plus shipping) cheaper.   ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darby on August 29, 2005, 03:46 PM
I'll bet the Target one will be $13, too, since the red Target clone was.  This is just ugly.  There's no justification in the price, and it's just another way of Hasbro trying to cash in on clone madness without actually giving us what we want.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on August 29, 2005, 04:25 PM
I've had enough of these exclusives - enough is enough already.

If you agree head over here:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9238.msg157320#msg157320
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 29, 2005, 04:54 PM
Jay, do you think you could do a carded version of the Easter Egg version, with a sticker in that horrible ROTS-esque font (the one that is on all the basic figures) that says something like "LIKE WOW MAN!" or "DUDE, ******' A!" or (to go with Hasbro's favorite word lately), "AWESOME, TOTALLY AWESOME!*"

(*if you'll include, "All right Hamilton!" I'll send you a shiny nickel) :)

And now, if you'll excuse me, I need to call Hasbro and ask them what the bottom of the barrel looks like with all the crap scraped off of it. :)




Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jesse James on August 29, 2005, 04:55 PM
To the figure's defense, it looks fine.  I'm not sure why there's unhappiness on how it looks.  It's a nice night camo that miimics Gree (or whoever it is on Kashyyyk) and his green camo paintjob armor mixed with black armor bits.  The paintjob is fine to me.

The price though?  Meh...  Since it's a cardback change from other exclusives I've been trying to keep up with I'm going to skip it.  They should be focusing on getting GOOD figures out to retail in good quantities rather than pissing around with these exclusives that are supposedly taking up their "production capabilities" that Hasbro whined about a short while ago.

If you can't meet demand at retail then stop with the ******* exclusives already!  At least for Clones...  That doesn't make a lick of sense to me, but whatever.

I'm passing.  Nice card or not, it's a changed card, so I don't feel compelled to have it now for a "set", and while I'd gladly take this at the $5 - $7 (maybe even $8) range, and even buy a few extra for a small 4-man team maybe, I'm not even going to get one at the current price.  

I'm amazed this is even coming out...  Makes one wonder if the Target one got axed or something.  Would seem odd they both go out, I mean they're not too dissimilar, but whatever.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: SilverZ on August 29, 2005, 05:10 PM
I'd be less upset if this was happening after all of the on-screen versions had been exhausted. But here, now, when we're worrying if possibly the most requested clone variant from the film is going to be on the SA body or not, they dump this EU Batman vs. The Empire garbage out there.

It's ugly. It's overpriced. And there's really no excuse for shovelling this crap out to us. They know we want clones, and they know we want authentic ones. But instead of using exclusive means to bring us product we want, they're purely focused on satisfying retailers by giving them "unique" exclusives, and shafting us in the process. How insulting.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Famine on August 29, 2005, 05:26 PM
We clammored, we raised hell. "We want Clones!", we said. Now we reap what we sow.

Kevin
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Diddly on August 29, 2005, 05:34 PM
The Clone fan inside of me wants one, but I cannot spend $20 on one Clone Trooper. That's ******* ridiculous. **** SWS.com and their hidiously overpriced exclusive items.

On the figure itself, I think the gray parts look cool, but the camo is rather homo.

Final decision: PASS
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on August 29, 2005, 05:39 PM
Jay, do you think you could do a carded version of the Easter Egg version, with a sticker in that horrible ROTS-esque font (the one that is on all the basic figures) that says something like "LIKE WOW MAN!" or "DUDE, ******' A!" or (to go with Hasbro's favorite word lately), "AWESOME, TOTALLY AWESOME!*"

It's on it's way
(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/awesome.jpg)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jesse James on August 29, 2005, 05:45 PM
Is he black, or is that silver?  My monitor is going on me so images are incredibly dark.  I tried lightening the show, and now it looks silver, so can someone confirm what my eyes are telling me, or is it just my PC?

Silver...  well, that's dumb then.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Diddly on August 29, 2005, 05:47 PM
It says he's vac-metallized, so I think it's silver. Which I'm sure is the reason for the giant price point. ::)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jesse James on August 29, 2005, 05:50 PM
Oh, well screw that.

Who'd go into battle in silver?  Much less who'd go covertly into battle in silver?!   ::)

It's a "Silver" figure more or less, but why they went with the goofy "Covert" title I'll never know.  I guess that was Covert Vaders we've gotten, and Covert Fett, and Covert Stormtrooper, and Covert E2 Clone...

Oh and Covert R2-D2.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on August 29, 2005, 05:57 PM
It's partially vac'ed. There's some ashy charcoal colors and purple too. The loose example looks more purpley than the the carded one.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Reid on August 29, 2005, 06:13 PM
This is the product of what happens when a Hasbro designer comes home from work, gets bitten by a rabid bat, trips on garbage, falls down a set of stairs, gets drunk, and then tries to think of a starwarsshop.com Clone exclusive.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 29, 2005, 06:31 PM
Too much money, and not enough interest. I am now waiting for the final 12 to come out and to hopefully find Gree, Bly, and the 501st Tactical Troopers (want 5 for a squad). Only thing then I want is the R4 and the white Grevious guard. Might, MIGHT take a Wookie or two, but that is it. Then I'm done until Cody (at least I think I am!).
Anyway, again, for the price, I have to pass.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: P-Siddy on August 29, 2005, 06:49 PM
here's the next "Exclusive" Covert Ops Clone Trooper


(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/prideclone.jpg)

For some reason, I've got "In the Navy" stuck in my head. Maybe Hasbro should do a Village People Clone Trooper exclusive.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 29, 2005, 07:03 PM
My brain is going to explode! When I first heard about this, I thought (and was hoping) that this was the Target clone switching retailers on us, but NO! it's in addition to it. The pain! The Pain!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Broem on August 29, 2005, 07:20 PM
What in the hell is that thing supposed to be?  LOL!  Now, I admit that they gotme with the Lava Vader and the exclusive Target clonetrooper several months ago.  I can accept hologram figures and even those Lava Kenobi and Anakins and even the Early Bird thing but just barely. 

This thing on the other hand is crazy.  I know everyone likes clonetroopers and does not mind an occasion EU type spin, but this thing looks ridiculous.  At least in my opinion. 

However, despite all that I MIGHT have bought this.  Why will I not this time?  The freaking $13.99 price tag plus shipping for a thing that was not even remotely in the movie.  It's just a ripoff and a half methinks. 

Man that is scraping the bottom of the barrel.  Sorry for the rant on it but wow.  It's just getting a tad carried away with exclusives and prices. 

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 29, 2005, 07:44 PM
Well - I'm a retard, but I ordered my two just simply 'cause that's what I do.

I think it's time for me to leave work and slam my head against the wall for an hour or so.

*sigh*
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: speedermike on August 29, 2005, 08:14 PM
On the bright side...at least this isn't an Utapau clone or something we would like more than one of.  I don't mind non-movie stuff being so expensive, because if it's not on the screen, then I don't hunt for it.

Granted, if I find EU stuff on the pegs, I usually buy it.  But something like this that looks so non-Star Warsy, I can easily pass on.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 29, 2005, 08:15 PM
here's the next "Exclusive" Covert Ops Clone Trooper


(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/prideclone.jpg)

If we ever need a terrorist raid conducted in San Francisco we can send 6 of these guys in to get the job done.  There is no haven for them when we have these weapons at our disposal.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 29, 2005, 09:48 PM
I still kind of like this new figure but I am starting to talk myself out of buying one. ::)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 29, 2005, 10:11 PM

It's on it's way
(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/awesome.jpg)

Where is that little "laying on the floor laughing like crazy" emoticon when I need it?  :D 

Great work on that Jay.  PM me your address and your nickel will be in the mail shortly.

I still kind of like this new figure but I am starting to talk myself out of buying one. ::)

I honestly think that the only reason I ordered one is because it's a Clone and I thought it might be interesting to have.  Thanks to the benefit of time and foresight (not to mention a whole lot of peer pressure around here, ha ha), I'm wondering if I should even keep it on preorder.  It wasn't in the films, it's horribly expensive, and I'm on a tight budget right now anyway, so I don't know....  ???  I keep asking myself, "Am I buying it because I want it, or out of some misplaced idea that I need it?" 

Right now, I'm leaning toward cancelling it.   :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Broem on August 29, 2005, 10:15 PM
Well now that I calmed down after my initial rant.  The figure itself is ok I guess.  I just wish they would not price things so insanely high.  I can see $9.99 with shipping and handling added on after that.  But $13.99 for a funky painted clonetrooper is kind of nuts.  It not even really an EU character even.  It's just something the Hasbro reps painted up and called it "Special Ops Trooper" 

To be honest that rainbow clonetrooper looks better IMO. 

LOL!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 30, 2005, 12:21 AM
I think this is the one that will go down in history as being when Hasbro "jumped the shark" with the Star Wars line. It's like they are starting to turn clones into batman.

I will have none of it.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 30, 2005, 10:00 AM
You know, there is a bright side to an exclusive like this. It is an EU type character, therefore, if you skip it, you're not really missing anything.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 30, 2005, 10:03 AM
You know, there is a bright side to an exclusive like this. It is an EU type character, therefore, if you skip it, you're not really missing anything.

I'm really hoping this thing falls flat on it's face, because there has to be a ceiling to all this craziness.  They're really starting to price these things too high to enjoy.  I don't want it to feel like I'm paying for a lobster dinner for two everytime I go to order a $5 action figure.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 30, 2005, 10:11 AM
Well, I kind of like the look of it, weird as it is, and I want one but I don't think I want it badly enough to spend $14.00 plus shipping for one. I feel like Hasbro and even Lucas think they can put the name "Star Wars" on any piece of crap they want, hike the price to the stratosphere, and then expect us to buy it no questions asked. The worst part of it is, a lot of us do just that. Oh well, maybe I'm just tired and getting grumpy in my old age. ::)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nicklab on August 30, 2005, 01:52 PM
We clammored, we raised hell. "We want Clones!", we said. Now we reap what we sow.

Kevin

Pretty much.  The old saying "Be careful what you wish for, you might get it" seems very fitting at this time.  Collectors opened this can of worms.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 30, 2005, 02:15 PM
We clammored, we raised hell. "We want Clones!", we said. Now we reap what we sow.

Kevin

Pretty much.  The old saying "Be careful what you wish for, you might get it" seems very fitting at this time.  Collectors opened this can of worms.

Only the collectors who were willing to plunk down $13 for a single carded figure.  Don't put us all in the same boat, I for one made zero contribution to this current mess.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nicklab on August 30, 2005, 02:42 PM
I didn't single out one individual.  Just take a look at every message board in the collecting community.  It's almost mindless at this point.  "We want more Clones!  We want more Clones!"  Keep on asking that and this is the end result.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2005, 03:17 PM
I didn't single out one individual.  Just take a look at every message board in the collecting community.  It's almost mindless at this point.  "We want more Clones!  We want more Clones!"  Keep on asking that and this is the end result.


Funny that collectors clamoring for something (in this case more clones) works to get us $14 Clone Troopers, but it does NOT work to get us FREE Mail-Away figures or figures for our Jedi Master Points or Ice Cream Maker Guy or many other things we collectors have been clamoring for over the years...

Better keep trying I guess:

"We want more FREE mail-away offers!  We want more FREE Mail-Away offers!"

"We want Ice Cream Maker Guy!  We want Ice Cream Maker Guy!"



Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on August 30, 2005, 03:18 PM
I didn't single out one individual. Just take a look at every message board in the collecting community. It's almost mindless at this point. "We want more Clones! We want more Clones!" Keep on asking that and this is the end result.

Come on. Implicit in those cries of "We want more Clones" is the notion of movie-based clones, not this kind of garbage (at least not until all the movie variations had been accounted for).

That's what everyone meant, you know and I know that's what they meant, and even Hasbro has to know what they meant. Hasbro is just misinterpreting it on purpose, to whip everyone up into some kind of frothing desperation so when Utapau clones are finally released they'll soil themselves and drop $20 apiece.

(BTW, calling these EU is a disservice to the Expanded Universe. This is not based on anything from any book, comic, or game--just some ****** paintjob cooked up to justify a price-hiked exclusive.)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nicklab on August 30, 2005, 03:27 PM
Given Hasbro's history with the way they handled the Batman line, how are people not surprised by this?  Maybe I just have incredibly low (or perhaps realistic) expectations of them given their track record.  Because let's face facts...there are no more movies for them to draw from to fill out the toy line.  This is probably going to be the first of many such products.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on August 30, 2005, 03:31 PM
Sure, but they haven't even exhausted all possibilities from the films themselves, let alone scratching the surface of EU. They have at least a couple entire years full of potential movie figures before they need to "branch off" like this.

There's no excuse for doing this crap before all the film characters have been done. (Well, besides short-term monetary gain.)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nicklab on August 30, 2005, 03:45 PM
They have the license from Hasbro until 2018.  They need to space things out.  Do you seriously think there are enough characters to make first run figures over the next 12 years?  No.  That's why there are going to be products like this.  That's why we're going to get a couple of dozen more Luke Skywalker's and Han Solo's.

If things like this are completely inexcusable...don't buy them.  Plain and simple.  If enough people are outraged and make it known by not buying these products then Hasbro will get the point.

There's no excuse for doing this crap before all the film characters have been done. (Well, besides short-term monetary gain.)

When did Hasbro stop being a business and become a charity?  We have to deal with reality here.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: CHEWIE on August 30, 2005, 03:46 PM
No way would I even want this item... I'm not outraged that they're making it, I just don't see any need for it in my collection.

 :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2005, 03:48 PM
If things like this are completely inexcusable...don't buy them. Plain and simple. If enough people are outraged and make it known by not buying these products then Hasbro will get the point.

If you don't like it don't buy it.  That sounds all fine and good, but doesn't it run the risk of creating a brand new problem...

For example, what do you do?

Buy the $14 Clone Trooper you hate to show your support for the idea of a Clone Trooper line of figures that might one day give us Utapau, Kashyykk, and Mygeeto Clones.
-or-
Pass on the $14 Clone Trooper you hate and then suck it up when Hasbro says "Oh, we've cancelled the Clone Trooper line we had planned because they didn't sell well".   :-\

Whether it's the Cinema/Screen Scenes or the Wal-Mart Cantina Packs or something else, we hear something like "Oh, we cancelled wave 2 because there was no demand for wave 1" - Well no **** sherlock, you packed rehashes no one wanted in the first wave and put the newer figures in Wave 2 and 3.   ::)

Either way, we lose on crap like this.  Either you buy **** you don't like to "support the line" or you pass it and then suck it up when line X gets cancelled due to "poor support".  


Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 30, 2005, 04:05 PM
I really think the only way any of us are going to "win" in this mess is to have each of us decide want we want, want we don't and how much is something worth to us. Or perhaps I should say, how much are we willing to spend on something. Hasbro will never make all of us happy and they have no desire to try. Who can blame them. Heck, even if they made everything I want from Star Wars or GI Joe for that matter, I don't have enough money to buy it all. I find SA Clone Troopers all the time any more and I wouldn't mind having another 20 or more of them but I can't afford it. I need whatever "fun money" I have for some of the final 12 figures, that new TIE Fighter, and a couple of those 5 figures sets.

This doesn't excuse them from doing some of the things they do but they are a business and all they really care about is the bottom line. They don't care about us. They never have and they never will but they do want our money. That they care very much about so perhaps the time has come for all of us to think a bit more about who we give are money to and why we want to give it to them. I know this really doesn't solve much nor does it take away the sting it seems that all of us are feeling but really, I don't know what else we can do. At least we aren't in this all by ourselves.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on August 30, 2005, 04:09 PM
I'm really hoping this thing falls flat on it's face, because there has to be a ceiling to all this craziness.  They're really starting to price these things too high to enjoy.  I don't want it to feel like I'm paying for a lobster dinner for two everytime I go to order a $5 action figure.

You said the same thing about the Target Clone. I highly doubt this will fall flat on its face. Too many people want clones. Thats why we have these EU ones. Its more like REU. Reeeeally Expanded Universe.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on August 30, 2005, 04:11 PM
Either way, we lose on crap like this.  Either you buy **** you don't like to "support the line" or you pass it and then suck it up when line X gets cancelled due to "poor support".  


Yeah but people LOVED the Unleashed line and supported it and then Hasbro cut it… we just can't win  :'(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: CHEWIE on August 30, 2005, 04:15 PM
I really think the only way any of us are going to "win" in this mess is to have each of us decide want we want, want we don't and how much is something worth to us. Or perhaps I should say, how much are we willing to spend on something. Hasbro will never make all of us happy and they have no desire to try. Who can blame them. Heck, even if they made everything I want from Star Wars or GI Joe for that matter, I don't have enough money to buy it all. I find SA Clone Troopers all the time any more and I wouldn't mind having another 20 or more of them but I can't afford it. I need whatever "fun money" I have for some of the final 12 figures, that new TIE Fighter, and a couple of those 5 figures sets.

This doesn't excuse them from doing some of the things they do but they are a business and all they really care about is the bottom line. They don't care about us. They never have and they never will but they do want our money. That they care very much about so perhaps the time has come for all of us to think a bit more about who we give are money to and why we want to give it to them. I know this really doesn't solve much nor does it take away the sting it seems that all of us are feeling but really, I don't know what else we can do. At least we aren't in this all by ourselves.

Good well thought out post.  You're right, all Hasbro really wants is our money.

 :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2005, 04:17 PM
Yeah but people LOVED the Unleashed line and supported it and then Hasbro cut it… we just can't win  :'(

Yep.  We're damned if we do, we're damned if we don't.  More proof that Hasbro just does what it wants and if that occasionally happens to be what the fans want, well then that's just a bonus.   :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 30, 2005, 04:18 PM
I'm really hoping this thing falls flat on it's face, because there has to be a ceiling to all this craziness.  They're really starting to price these things too high to enjoy.  I don't want it to feel like I'm paying for a lobster dinner for two everytime I go to order a $5 action figure.

You said the same thing about the Target Clone. I highly doubt this will fall flat on its face. Too many people want clones. Thats why we have these EU ones. Its more like REU. Reeeeally Expanded Universe.

Hey, I doubt it too.  That's not a prediction, that's a pipe dream.  I'm in no way predicting that the sales will be poor.  Though it hasn't exactly been warmly received among the JD group of collectors, that's for sure.

When the Target clone was released however, I did predict that since tons of you guys were running out to Target with DCPI numbers in hand and Target was selling out of these things before they could even hit the sales floor, there would be more of them.  That is what the real problem is here.  And this clone is up for sale for $19 shipped because the last $13 Target clone was an enormous success for Hasbro.  Had we left them on the pegs collecting dust like they deserved, this clone would have never happened at this price point.

This notion that collectors on message boards saying that we want more clones meant that Hasbro suddenly decided to give us more clones, but to raise the price from $5 to $13 per figure (or $19 shipped for this newest abomination) is just crazy talk.  Nowhere in suggesting more clones did we say we'd be willing to pay 2.5x what we were paying before the exclusive fad started.  Buying $13 regularly carded figures said that.

All I can say right now, is that as pissed off as I am over this, I'm relatively subdued because it's all EU garbage that I don't want anyhow.

But people who buy these are filling out permission slips en masse for movie characters to be sold this way, that is for certain.

But when you really think about it, the $13 clone wasn't the root of this, the Jorg Sacul and other silver show exclusive figures really started it.  Hologram this, lava that, silver this and that.  Those were all priced way above the $5 (or less in some cases) that they're worth.  Even that 300th Boba Fett and Deluxe Amanaman for $10 each were really just $5 figures. 
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nicklab on August 30, 2005, 04:35 PM
If things like this are completely inexcusable...don't buy them. Plain and simple. If enough people are outraged and make it known by not buying these products then Hasbro will get the point.

If you don't like it don't buy it.  That sounds all fine and good, but doesn't it run the risk of creating a brand new problem...

For example, what do you do?

Buy the $14 Clone Trooper you hate to show your support for the idea of a Clone Trooper line of figures that might one day give us Utapau, Kashyykk, and Mygeeto Clones.
-or-
Pass on the $14 Clone Trooper you hate and then suck it up when Hasbro says "Oh, we've cancelled the Clone Trooper line we had planned because they didn't sell well".   :-\

Whether it's the Cinema/Screen Scenes or the Wal-Mart Cantina Packs or something else, we hear something like "Oh, we cancelled wave 2 because there was no demand for wave 1" - Well no **** sherlock, you packed rehashes no one wanted in the first wave and put the newer figures in Wave 2 and 3.   ::)

Either way, we lose on crap like this.  Either you buy **** you don't like to "support the line" or you pass it and then suck it up when line X gets cancelled due to "poor support".  

Let's look at the reasons why this particular piece and other exclusive figures are priced the way they are:

-First and foremost we're talking about a retail or online retail promotion.  An exclusive is designed to be a promotional tool to attract buyers to a certain outlet.  It's designed to be both a promotional item and a profitable one.  Hence the higher price.

-Unit Cost.  The cost of producing these figures is going to be higher.  Since they're exclusives they are going to be limited to a smaller production run than a figure in the Basic Figure line.  The profitability of a Basic Figure is based on a relatively large production run that's sold in volume in numerous case assortments.  A larger run of a given Basic Figure is cheaper to produce since manufacturers tend to discount bulk orders.  Smaller, more specialized orders tend to cost more per unit.  That increased cost for Hasbro is then passed on to the consumer.

-Special Features.  This figure has special features whether we care to admit it or not.  It has new paint apps, new packaging and the additional Star Case thrown in.  Those additional features further drive up the cost of this item.

-The Retailer.  Take a look at which retailers are pricing in what manner.  Because when an exclusive like this is proposed both Hasbro and the retailer have a hand in setting the price point.  Toys R Us has actually been somewhat reasonable with the prices of exclusive figures.  They've set a price point of $9.99 per unit (Holo Yoda, Silver figures).  Target and Star Wars Shop have set different prices.  This is where you can really make your voice heard.  If the $9.99 price point for an exclusive figure is acceptable to you, then patronize those retail outlets.  If the $14.99 price is too high for you, then don't partake in those exclusives.  Hasbro will see that pattern emerge and will work accordingly with retailers on future exclusives to price them at a point that the market will bear.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2005, 04:58 PM
All that mumbledy-jumbledy about exclusives is fine and good.  I think everyone understands WHY exclusives are at a higher price, no one is debating unit cost or exclusivity.

Everyone knows why exclusives cost more (Dressel said it best) - putting aside all the businessy reasons, it comes down to the fact that the retailers know we'll pay the higher price.  We proved it with the vOTC, with the Target figures, etc, etc, etc.


My problem still lies NOT with the idea of having an exclusives (even over-priced ones), but with the character selection of the exclusives.  It seems like all these exclusives are just re-hashed crap.

If you were going to launch an exclusive line of Clone Troopers, wouldn't you make a smarter pick than "Utapau Shadow Trooper" or "Covert Ops" Trooper?  I guess Hasbro knows the movie accurate clones will sell as basic figures, so they don't waste them on exclusives. 

I guess that is the one shining light in this whole thing is that (SO FAR) these exclusives have been things that are either A) Expanded Universe / Made Up or b) are re-hashes (Lava, Silver, Holo figs, Mustafar Duel figs).

So, I guess we are just thankful that MORE of the exclusives aren't new stuff, or it'd be a lot harder to pass them up even at the higher prices...
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on August 30, 2005, 04:59 PM
If things like this are completely inexcusable...don't buy them.  Plain and simple.  If enough people are outraged and make it known by not buying these products then Hasbro will get the point.

You're preaching to the choir here. ;)

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There's no excuse for doing this crap before all the film characters have been done. (Well, besides short-term monetary gain.)

When did Hasbro stop being a business and become a charity?  We have to deal with reality here.[/size]

The emphasis was on short-term gain. They're pissing off collectors and thereby killing their own target market. It's the whole "goose that laid the golden egg" thing--long-term happy customers versus squeezing out every last cent in the short term.

Quote from: Nicklab
Unit Cost.  The cost of producing these figures is going to be higher.  Since they're exclusives they are going to be limited to a smaller production run than a figure in the Basic Figure line.  The profitability of a Basic Figure is based on a relatively large production run that's sold in volume in numerous case assortments.  A larger run of a given Basic Figure is cheaper to produce since manufacturers tend to discount bulk orders.  Smaller, more specialized orders tend to cost more per unit.  That increased cost for Hasbro is then passed on to the consumer.

So make a reasonably large production run--not Sooper-Limited scalper bait like the recent Target exclusives. They bitch and whine about "small production runs" and then do it to themselves by only minting 10,000 or whatever.

Granted, this doesn't apply every time since not all exclusives are limited editions, but it seems like far too many are....

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-Special Features.  This figure has special features whether we care to admit it or not.  It has new paint apps, new packaging and the additional Star Case thrown in.  Those additional features further drive up the cost of this item.

Most recent exclusives aren't that special. (Except obviously the few with entirely new molds, like the TIE.)

No matter how you crunch the numbers, you can't convince me that sticking a few red ovals on an existing clonetrooper is more difficult or expensive than painting any basic figure like, say, Commander Gree which has far more extensive apps.

And screw those stupid Star Cases. No offense intended towards people who use them, but there's no reason to force non-carded collectors to buy something we don't need. If you, the individual collector, want SCs, then by all means go out and buy them. But leaving them off the figure should shave a buck or two off the price.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 30, 2005, 06:45 PM
First of all, I am honored to be your signature file, Nathan.   ;)

Secondly, I was able to successfully cancel my SWS.com order for the Covert Ops Trooper.  The more I thought about it, the less I could justify paying through the nose for something that didn't even resemble any of the Clones in the film, much less a paint scheme I would have expected on a Batman figure from 1997.  No real hassle with SWS this time either, which kind of surprised me, as their cancellation system isn't exactly user friendly.

Thirdly (last numerical designation), my main gripe as the days go by with this figure (and the Stealth Clone at Target) is that not more than two months ago, Hasbro claimed that they did not have the ability to utilize the SA Clone body and just crank out more Clones at retail, yet here they are now doing exactly that, only at a much more inflated price. 

Way to go, Hasbro: you get the gas face.  :P

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 30, 2005, 09:38 PM
Ha! You didn't get the hidden message here?!They couldn't utilize the SA body only because they HAD it reserved for these moneysuckin' exclusives! ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darby on August 30, 2005, 10:52 PM
I think everybody saw through that excuse to begin with, and now it's just obvious.  Hasbro seems really greedy with these things, like they're trying to get it all in before the party is over.  It will be if they keep alienating (some) collectors.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nicklab on August 31, 2005, 12:03 AM
All that mumbledy-jumbledy about exclusives is fine and good.  I think everyone understands WHY exclusives are at a higher price, no one is debating unit cost or exclusivity.

Everyone knows why exclusives cost more (Dressel said it best) - putting aside all the businessy reasons, it comes down to the fact that the retailers know we'll pay the higher price.  We proved it with the vOTC, with the Target figures, etc, etc, etc.

Sometimes the why should be explained.  I don't think everyone's aware of why some of these things cost what they do.

Are the retailers taking advantage?  Possibly.  Originally, exclusives were designed as a gimmick to get more foot traffic in the stores.  They get people soliciting a store on a more frequent basis hunting for exclusives and that will usually translate into greater overall sales.  But time and experience with all of these exclusives has shown plenty of execs at Hasbro as well as at the retail chains that collectors will pay the price for exclusives.  Like I said before, they're businesses, not charities.  They're out to make a buck, pure and simple.  We should never question that motivation.

And while you're busy blaming Hasbro and the retailers, make sure you blame Lucasfilm too.  After all, Lucasfilm licensing has to approve each product.  And remember that Uncle George also owns a substantial stake in Hasbro as part of the licensing agreement.  He's got just as much of a vested interest in Hasbro being profitable as he does in Lucasfilm being a leader in the film industry.

All of this being said, do I like this situation?  No.  I'm on a budget like a lot of other people.  But I think you have to go into this with your eyes open and try to have an understanding of the situation.  Why things are the way they are is a very important question.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on September 1, 2005, 12:55 AM
I came across this emoticon and it seemed relevant here:

(http://cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/ekelig/k014.gif)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 14, 2005, 10:11 PM
Hey Im getting one, **** it!!!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Gatillo on September 15, 2005, 09:10 AM
This clone trooper is as cool as xmas Vader
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 15, 2005, 10:20 PM
First of all, I am honored to be your signature file, Nathan.   ;)



Was Doc Padawan also the one who said, "Hey Hasbro!  How about dinner and a movie before you bend me over and screw me?!?!!"
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 15, 2005, 10:45 PM
Was Doc Padawan also the one who said, "Hey Hasbro! How about dinner and a movie before you bend me over and screw me?!?!!"

I can't remember exactly, but I don't think I said that in particular.  After all the endless Hasbro-bashing that I do, things tend to blur.   ;D

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ner_vod on September 17, 2005, 11:58 AM
here's the next "Exclusive" Covert Ops Clone Trooper


(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/prideclone.jpg)

"covert ops clone" Mission: Infilitrate the skittles rainbow with stealth and camo.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Reid on September 17, 2005, 12:55 PM
here's the next "Exclusive" Covert Ops Clone Trooper


(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/prideclone.jpg)

"covert ops clone" Mission: Infilitrate the skittles rainbow with stealth and camo.

LOL! I can just imagine that.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Gatillo on September 17, 2005, 01:17 PM
I believe that is a clone of Punky Brewster (sp?)
  :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 18, 2005, 12:57 AM
Are you serious?

He kind of sucks.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on September 18, 2005, 02:33 PM
This is an example of Hasbro taking the want of collectors too far. Stupid clone, not needed. I will pledge right now, right here that I will pass on this clone so someone else can have an "extra" though I don't think that will really be a problem.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2005, 11:18 AM
Is it just me or is this guy looking a bit better in the new Hasbro (http://hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.news/newsid.73A958A7-D56F-E112-47F76C208F3F3CBA/dn/default.cfm) photo?

(http://hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/85963.jpg)

Less metallic and purple-y, more black and gray?  I guess it's just the lighting difference.  I'm still not exactly thrilled about shelling out $20 for one fancy clone....


Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on September 20, 2005, 11:24 AM
That photo does look better as well as that carded shot… here's to hopin'
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on September 20, 2005, 05:01 PM
Yeah, slightly better .... still major suckage though.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 21, 2005, 02:39 AM
You may be right Jeff.  I think they toned down on the use of the sparkly lip-gloss finish from the original photos.  Perhaps Hasbro realized they went a little overboard?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ryan on September 21, 2005, 03:34 AM
It looks better, but it is still an easy pass for me. No way am I shelling out $20 for a shiney clone with random blobs of dark colored paint. I have plenty of other shiney things at my house to be entertained with.... Ooooo, look tin foil from my burrito!!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Reid on September 21, 2005, 07:38 AM
I you think the Covert Ops was bad, look at this: http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_images/2005/0921/candy-corn.JPG
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: jokabofe on September 21, 2005, 09:27 AM
I you think the Covert Ops was bad, look at this: http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_images/2005/0921/candy-corn.JPG

Oooh, I want one. I love Candy Corn  ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on September 21, 2005, 12:37 PM
That's awesome. I'd buy one. ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on September 21, 2005, 12:45 PM
I you think the Covert Ops was bad, look at this: http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_images/2005/0921/candy-corn.JPG

Sadly, that is more movie accurate than either the Utapau Shadow Clone or the Covert Ops Clone - at least there were some Yellow and Orange colored Clones in the movie.  If fact, if you got replaced the yellow with white and added a few more Orange highlights, it'd actually be nice!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 3, 2005, 05:48 AM
Ah, bloody hell.  This isn't listed on SWS.com anymore.   :'(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Reid on October 3, 2005, 07:14 AM
Is it just me or is this guy looking a bit better in the new Hasbro (http://hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.news/newsid.73A958A7-D56F-E112-47F76C208F3F3CBA/dn/default.cfm) photo?

(http://hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/85963.jpg)

Less metallic and purple-y, more black and gray?  I guess it's just the lighting difference.  I'm still not exactly thrilled about shelling out $20 for one fancy clone....




I'll admit, this looks better, but I'm not paying the $15+ price tag.  :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 3, 2005, 11:32 PM
It does look better. I they had used this photo, I may have bought more. What's the run on this again? 10,000?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: jokabofe on October 3, 2005, 11:37 PM
Ah, bloody hell.  This isn't listed on SWS.com anymore.   :'(

Does that mean they are sold out? I didn't get to order any, 'cause I was/am still kinda on the fence about them... but I guess I do need at least two, even if I think they suck. Just because...  ::)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 4, 2005, 09:41 AM
If I'm not mistaken, SW.com usualy finds a few more to put up for sale after they sell out, so I'd keep checking back.

You know, you would think they could use this as an experiment - make to order. If 20,000 are ordered, make 20,000 and so forth. I'd give Hasbro a good idea how much of any figure could sell.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on October 4, 2005, 10:51 AM
Crap, I didn't order any either - between me and my buddy I need to find 3 of them.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 4, 2005, 03:03 PM
Ah, bloody hell.  This isn't listed on SWS.com anymore.   :'(

Meanwhile, this is one of the latest banners that was supplied by SWS.com (it's like they're taunting me  >:():

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Broem on October 4, 2005, 07:32 PM
Yeah, it does look better to me now.  But again they can keep it for the price they are charging. 
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on October 4, 2005, 07:35 PM
Would anybody be sad if this was cancelled? I mean, I know a lot of you are either completists or rabid clone army builders, but do any of you actually LIKE and look forward to this figure?

I'm not just being snotty, I'm genuinely curious.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on October 4, 2005, 08:00 PM
Check out this brilliant exchange I just had with SWS Customer Service:

Me:

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Hello.  I noticed that the Covert-Ops Clone Trooper appears to be sold out as is not on the website anymore.  I was wondering if they would be coming back at all... I didn't get my order in yet and would like to purchase several of them.  Thanks, -Rob

Them:

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Dear Customer

We are completely sold out of this item. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Sincerely
Customer Service
StarWarsShop.com

Me:

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Yeah, I know that.  My question was whether or not you'd be getting any more in at some point.

Thanks,
-Rob

Stay tuned for the next installment...

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Broem on October 4, 2005, 09:20 PM
LOL! Yeah, that sounds like my exchanges trying to get my Hyperspace password several months ago. 
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 5, 2005, 02:03 AM
I saw the other day that these were gone and wished I'd gotten one. He might look good displayed with Gree and the other darker colored troops.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on October 5, 2005, 02:41 PM
Update!

Me:

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Hello.  I noticed that the Covert-Ops Clone Trooper appears to be sold out as is not on the website anymore.  I was wondering if they would be coming back at all... I didn't get my order in yet and would like to purchase several of them.  Thanks, -Rob

Them:

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Dear Customer

We are completely sold out of this item. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Sincerely
Customer Service
StarWarsShop.com

Me:

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Yeah, I know that.  My question was whether or not you'd be getting any more in at some point.

Thanks,
-Rob

Them:

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Dear Customer,

We will not be carrying this item for the rest of the year. Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,

Frank
Customer Service

Me:

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You can be of further assistance by answering my original question and letting me know if you will ever have any more in stock - I can appreciate that they are out of stock and you won't have them this year, but does that mean you WILL have them next year?  Or are they all gone for good?  I'd rather not get screwed on Ebay if I can wait until January and order some from you.

Thanks,
-Rob




So, as it doesn't sound like they'll be getting more of these in any time soon - anyone have a pair of extra troopers that they're interested in selling at cost?   :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on October 5, 2005, 06:48 PM
Well I lollygagged on them and missed out. Looks like I'll have to beg someone to trade or sell me a couple of them.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 6, 2005, 09:56 AM
Would anybody be sad if this was cancelled? I mean, I know a lot of you are either completists or rabid clone army builders, but do any of you actually LIKE and look forward to this figure?

I'm not just being snotty, I'm genuinely curious.

I would not be upset at all. Infact, I would be pleased if they canceled them, especially now that not everyone has been able to order them.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 6, 2005, 11:40 AM
Would anybody be sad if this was cancelled? I mean, I know a lot of you are either completists or rabid clone army builders, but do any of you actually LIKE and look forward to this figure?

I'm not just being snotty, I'm genuinely curious.

To be honest, I think I would be disappointed.  It appears that they toned down his silver highlights to calm down his Michael Jackson-like outfit.  I was starting to look forward to getting one of these.

Perhaps it's also because of the cardback.  I'm a carded guy originally, so I was looking forward to having one of those unique cards hanging on my wall.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: ruiner on October 7, 2005, 05:20 PM
Rob - found one for you!

http://cgi.ebay.com/LIMITED-EDITION-EXCLUSIVE-ROTS-COVERT-OPS-CLONE-TROOPER_W0QQitemZ6004308026QQcategoryZ101609QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I slept on this one too, and now I kind of regret it just because I like the cardback and I was going to tack on that tacky Holiday DV just for ***** and of course, giggles.

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Morgbug on October 9, 2005, 01:23 AM
Well, they just took my order for them now. 

They'd been gone for a couple of days and I was unable to place an order, receiving an arbitrary error message each time I tried.  But just now it went through pretty easily.  Confirmation email has already arrived. 

Go figure.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 9, 2005, 04:06 AM
Congrats Brent - at least one of us still interested was able to order.

I'm still getting this:

"Sorry, an error occurred with the item you have chosen, we cannot add it to your cart."

Those ******** won't even let me add it to my wish list.

 :'(

(Here's the link for future reference: Covert Ops Clone (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205;category_id=322;pcid1=;pcid2=))
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on October 9, 2005, 04:52 AM
Congrats Brent - at least one of us still interested was able to order.

I'm still getting this:

"Sorry, an error occurred with the item you have chosen, we cannot add it to your cart."

Those ******** won't even let me add it to my wish list.

 :'(

(Here's the link for future reference: Covert Ops Clone (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205;category_id=322;pcid1=;pcid2=))

I'm getting the same thing, error and I can't add itt to my wish list! Then I go use another browser and I get "This product is currently unavailable".

It's the cookie thing all over again!  >:(  Empty them out all over again!  ::)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Morgbug on October 9, 2005, 12:42 PM
That's truly bizarre.  The error message Jesse quoted is exactly what I'd been seeing of late.  And at one point the whole piece had disappeared from the website. 

Then last night, presumably fueled by Scotch and beer, it showed up.  Confirmation email received.

This is not to say it won't result in an email from SWS.com's crack smokin' monkey saying oops, we forgot to turn that off last night ::)  But I can hope and at worst I get nothing, what I deserve for dragging my ass.  The consolation is that SWS.com's reputation for screwing things up will continue to be solid as a rock. :P

edit: just took a wander over to the site and it's absolutely gone again.  Maybe I just caught a cancelled order or they found some more in the back ::)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 9, 2005, 10:40 PM
I can't believe these are already gone :o. From the mixed reaction in the announcement I would have thought they had several left to sell ???? Or is it a trick to get us to order more? Glad I ordered mine right in the beginning because...when you wait/ You're late. 8) 
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 10, 2005, 02:15 AM
when you wait/ You're late. 8) 

 >:(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: ruiner on October 10, 2005, 01:25 PM
What the heck?!  I just ordered one...
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: iFett on October 10, 2005, 11:51 PM
Can I suggest that the ad be removed from this site since it's "no longer available?"  It just keeps taunting me everytime I see it.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 11, 2005, 12:06 AM
Actually, SWS.com provides that ad, so we have little control over that.

It is cruel though, isn't it?   :'(   ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on October 12, 2005, 01:25 PM
Rebelscum has front and back carded shots of the Cover OP Trooper.

Note the error on the back: It says the figure was created to celebrate the release of the final chapter on DVD and VHS. Uhhh sorry Hasbro but ROTS isn't coming out on VHS or Beta for that matter. Just another example of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.  ::)

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Covert_Ops_Trooper_Carded_95223.asp

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: ruiner on October 12, 2005, 01:27 PM
Actually, SWS.com provides that ad, so we have little control over that.

It is cruel though, isn't it?   :'(   ;)

He keeps popping up from time to time so I'd sit tight...
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: iFett on October 12, 2005, 04:23 PM
Actually, SWS.com provides that ad, so we have little control over that.

It is cruel though, isn't it?   :'(   ;)

He keeps popping up from time to time so I'd sit tight...

I've found him several times over the past week on the SWshop, but it never lets me add any to my cart....  Just worried about not picking up another exclusive brings cold feelings to my heart.

I think Jeff is helping me out on this one though  ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 12, 2005, 04:30 PM
If anybody ordered too many, I'll take one.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on October 12, 2005, 04:47 PM
That's some kickass packaging. Like I've said before, I wish they'd used this on the basic ROTS figure line. :'(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 13, 2005, 07:04 PM
He popped up today, but I wasted so much time trying to sign up for Hyperspace via the Early Bird free trial - hoping I'd get a discount - that the damned thing sold out.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 14, 2005, 03:16 AM
So it went from looking like this:

Covert Ops Trooper (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205&ReferrerID=CJADBN-00001) (still unavailable at this moment)

(http://shop.starwars.com/kernel/imageload?table=cat_images;ttl2=15;key1=104205_img2;key2=-100_img2)

to looking like this:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/10-05/CovertOpsFront.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/10-05/CovertOpsBack.jpg)

I think I would have preferred the shiny/metalized version.   :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Chris on October 14, 2005, 03:49 AM
Yeah, this new version sucks. I also like how it mentions the ROTS VHS on the cardback.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: ruiner on October 14, 2005, 09:04 AM
I don't think the mention of VHS is an error, someone said that the VHS version will be available in Europe.   ???
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on October 14, 2005, 09:42 AM
I so wish I could switch the Target trooper with this one.  As it stands the Covert Ops Trooper will be relatively easy to get as it was available to anyone via pre-order for some time and the Target trooper is available to scalpers and DCPI hunters who ask employees to go back to the stock room and get them for them a) IF other scalpers haven't beaten them to it or b) if the employee is nice enough and or their Target allows them to do it (I've been to Targets that DON'T do this). 

I just like the Target stealth trooper and I don't really care for this online version.  Either way the window of opportunity is guaranteed to be much smaller for the Target trooper and it takes a lot more work to get it no matter what you do unless you live in a sweet spot where the make it to the pegs and you are lucky enough to show up at the right time... :'(  I love clonetroopers but this is starting to piss me off! >:( >:(
Title: Covert ops at Star wars.com!! Im so pissed
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 14, 2005, 07:27 PM
I have been waiting for this thing to come back, so I clicked on it, and I says I can order it! I order 4., but says "2" I say ok, guess they have limit! I go through the order form..get to the last part where it says review order..I do that..then this page comes up says "item was dropped from your order" !!! What the hell!! Im so pissed !!!
Title: Re: Covert ops at Star wars.com!! Im so pissed
Post by: Ook on October 14, 2005, 07:42 PM
It was back the other day and I was trying to order, but it kept disappearing from my cart. I thought I had a browser problem. In the meantime, I farted around trying to sign up for Hyperspace and it was sold out again by the time I was done.

Was it just available now?? ???
Title: Re: Covert ops at Star wars.com!! Im so pissed
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 14, 2005, 07:49 PM
I dont know, what happened to you, just happened to me..I was so excited..and now im sad )=  now its not even listed to buy...DAM!!! I think people think this is the same figure target is going to be selling..but its not..
Title: Re: Covert ops at Star wars.com!! Im so pissed
Post by: Reid on October 14, 2005, 07:52 PM
There is already a topic about this.  :)
Title: Re: Covert ops at Star wars.com!! Im so pissed
Post by: Jeff on October 14, 2005, 08:13 PM
There is already a topic about this.  :)

Right you are, consider it merged.   ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 15, 2005, 08:20 PM
Hey, somebody holler at me if this guy comes back again. I want to order this turkey.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 18, 2005, 07:23 PM
He's back!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 18, 2005, 07:27 PM
"Sorry, an error occurred with the item you have chosen, we cannot add it to your cart."   :(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on October 18, 2005, 07:28 PM
Not anymore.  >:(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 18, 2005, 07:33 PM
Damn, there's something wrong with that site. It either errs out or they sell in 5 seconds. I wonder how many they put up each time, two...? ??? I actually got one this time, though.Ordered the DARTH VADER LIVES shirt, too.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on October 18, 2005, 10:05 PM
You probably got the one they put up. I kep trying to put one in my cart and it kept saying it was empty.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 18, 2005, 11:06 PM
You probably got the one they put up. I kep trying to put one in my cart and it kept saying it was empty.

That happened to me last time it was available. I'd put one in my cart, then go to "View Cart" and it would be empty.  Is that the only item that has that problem or is the whole site buggy?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on October 18, 2005, 11:11 PM
I never had this trouble when I ordered my Celebration Vaders. I think its just this item.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 19, 2005, 02:07 AM
Covert Ops Trooper (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205&ReferrerID=CJADBN-00001)

I'm just bumping the link to this page for quick reference.  Let's hope we get lucky soon.  :-[
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 20, 2005, 06:25 PM
He's back again... (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on October 20, 2005, 07:54 PM
If they're only gonna put a couple up at a time now they should limit it to one per customer.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on October 20, 2005, 09:57 PM
He's back again... (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205)

Ah ****adoodle!  :'(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 20, 2005, 10:57 PM
If I ever meet the guy that had the idea to only put up a couple figures at a time on SWS.com, I'm gonna kill him.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on October 20, 2005, 11:12 PM
If I ever meet the guy that had the idea to only put up a couple figures at a time on SWS.com, I'm gonna kill him.  >:( >:(

Shall I book you a room at the Sask Pen.  :-*
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 21, 2005, 05:36 PM
WOW. I just e-mailed a few of you, but that's sumbitch is gone already.

You guys should give me your IM handles. :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on October 21, 2005, 06:54 PM
Hopefully it will be on tomorrow during the afternoon so I can actually have a run at it.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 21, 2005, 08:10 PM
LOL Back again...
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on October 21, 2005, 09:49 PM
Oh man, this is just crazy! He's there, he's not, he's there, he's not. Arrrrrrrrrg!

I saw this post from work today and noticed it was too late for it.   :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 21, 2005, 10:03 PM
Oh man, this is just crazy! He's there, he's not, he's there, he's not. Arrrrrrrrrg!

I saw this post from work today and noticed it was too late for it.   :-\

Did you get my e-mail? I sent one to you and a couple others when I saw he was back.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on October 21, 2005, 10:08 PM
Yes I did but only noticed it was there when I got home, very hard for me to access a PC from work right now during the day work hours. I'm screwed thus far.  :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 24, 2005, 04:23 PM
Uh oh...

Covert Ops Loose Photo (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/CovertClones.jpg)

...that's ugly as ****!

If it looks like that, I'll be selling it to any one of you who still wants it. :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on October 24, 2005, 04:57 PM
And it looks like they still haven't figured out which way the belt goes
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on October 24, 2005, 05:07 PM
And it looks like they still haven't figured out which way the belt goes

 :D

That is pretty funny that there are two different clones in the picture and the belts are opposite on the two.  I think you're right, I don't think they have a clue how it is supposed to look.   :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on October 24, 2005, 05:20 PM
Covert Ops Loose Photo (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/CovertClones.jpg)

(http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/d040.gif)

Dang, that makes the Utapau Shadow Trooper look good to me.
(http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/d020.gif)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 24, 2005, 05:26 PM
Covert Ops Loose Photo (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/CovertClones.jpg)

(http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/d040.gif)

Dang, that makes the Utapau Shadow Trooper look good to me.
(http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/d020.gif)

What's with purple designs? He looks like he's demonstrating "Pinch of Plum" at the make-up counter. I might cancel this thing. Then at least they'll send the shirt I ordered instead of sitting on it till Dec.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on October 24, 2005, 05:27 PM
If only they were switched  :'(  I would have ordered SEVERAL on line even at the online price.  If Target had the "psychadelic, electric, purple wiskered ***** cat" clone I'd leave it to the scalpers and save my gas money and stress.

Blake
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on October 24, 2005, 05:30 PM
It's funny, while my feelings towards the SWSHop Clone grow worse (I think I've gone from wanting all five I ordered down to wanting just one to keep carded), my love of the Target Utapau Clone increases.

The more I see the Target Utapua Shadow Clone, the more I'm digging it - it's kinda got a "vertigo" type of thing going on and it isn't totally FUBAR in it's execution.   :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on October 24, 2005, 05:31 PM
Whoops!!!  :-[  I guess I should have called him a psychadelic, electric, purple wiskered KITTY cat clone....
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 24, 2005, 05:34 PM
I still don't like the Utapau guy (Was he really on Utapau in the movie at all??), and I think it's due entirely to his supposed "stealth" and the fact that he's basically half white. How is that stealthy? More like Zebra Legion.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Nathan on October 24, 2005, 06:20 PM
I still don't like the Utapau guy (Was he really on Utapau in the movie at all??), and I think it's due entirely to his supposed "stealth" and the fact that he's basically half white. How is that stealthy? More like Zebra Legion.

The name is the stupidest part. IMO he would actually look fairly cool as an elite bodyguard/secret police type of character, but "stealth"? Nuh-uh.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Morgbug on October 24, 2005, 10:13 PM
The name is the stupidest part. IMO he would actually look fairly cool as an elite bodyguard/secret police type of character, but "stealth"? Nuh-uh.

It's for the children.  Secret police would scare them, stealth makes them think of Batman.  I can hardly wait for the next Mattel trooper. :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on October 25, 2005, 12:05 AM
I guess I still haven't had good enough timing to be able to order any of these.

Argh.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on October 25, 2005, 11:24 AM
OK,

GH has shome shots of the new Covert Clone Trooper posted...

While the Target Utapau Trooper is the modified CW SA Clone body, it looks to me like the Covert Ops Trooper is the #41 body... complete with the antenna slot still in his back.  Please someone else go look at the pictures and tell me that isn't a big gap on his back where the #41 antenna is supposed to go.   :( 

Covert Ops Clone Trooper picture at GH (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3920&text=&imageid=17499&box=&shownew=)

If this Clone shows up and has a giant slot in his back?  That's just damn lazy.   >:(

If that is the case, I'm glad the 501st trooper got the #38 body - I'd hate for all my 501st troopers to have that slot or have that fdang antenna sticking out everywhere.   :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on October 25, 2005, 11:41 AM
Yep… still has the slot. Maybe I'll try my hand at a custom accessory to fit in there. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Broem on October 25, 2005, 11:01 PM
LOL!  The SW.Shop trooper gets the 41 body as a repaint but not the 501st or the Red Shocktrooper?  Hasbro is odd.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ryan on October 25, 2005, 11:08 PM
And it looks like they still haven't figured out which way the belt goes

 :D

That is pretty funny that there are two different clones in the picture and the belts are opposite on the two.  I think you're right, I don't think they have a clue how it is supposed to look.   :-\


The Target clone uses the CW SA clone sculpt again, that is why the belt is right-side up.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 27, 2005, 06:27 PM
Back. ::)

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 27, 2005, 06:33 PM
That was quick.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: jokabofe on October 27, 2005, 06:39 PM
Damn. I must have bought the two they put up  ;)

Thanks for that link!!

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on October 27, 2005, 06:41 PM
Damn. I must have bought the two they put up  ;)

Thanks for that link!!



Hey, someone scored! :D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on October 27, 2005, 07:04 PM
I've given up on this thing.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Bobafett77 on October 27, 2005, 07:19 PM
Wow! I'm glad I grabbed these the first day they hit the net.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 27, 2005, 07:50 PM
I'm glad you lucked out Dave, but this is seriously pissing me off.

It looks like I'll have to pay some scumbag on eBay for one.

My apologies in advance to the scumbag I buy from.   ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 27, 2005, 10:57 PM
I would love to see these sit at the warehouse so very long, that Hasbro has to clearance them on the net.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Gatillo on October 28, 2005, 12:05 AM
I agree, but even at clearance I would not buy them.

I guess they are ok but they don't do it for me.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 28, 2005, 01:09 AM
I'd be happy to just get my hands on one.  It's actually the card that does it for me, not the figure - I just want to be able to hang it next to my other carded exclusives of the past.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: ruiner on October 28, 2005, 01:52 PM
Here, here. 

The figure is one of the ugliest figures ever made.

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 29, 2005, 12:27 AM
agreed
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: jokabofe on October 29, 2005, 12:55 AM
I agree, this figure is horrid. But, I'm one of those sheep that needs to have every figure, otherwise I'll be unhappy.

Baaaa.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 29, 2005, 01:07 AM
Baaaa.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 29, 2005, 12:21 PM
Here, here. 

The figure is one of the ugliest figures ever made.



And yet, it sells out and will go for premium on the secondary market. ???
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 29, 2005, 12:35 PM
And yet, it sells out and will go for premium on the secondary market. ???

'Tis the power of the exclusive. :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on October 29, 2005, 11:36 PM
You know, had it been my choice, I would not have painted this figure like it is or anything close to it. However, having said that, I kind of like the ugly little bugger.  ::) If anyone who has ordered the little fellow thinks it's just too ugly to keep in their collection, please let me know. I didn't get to order a single one before they sold out (I really thought I would have more time since most people seemed disgusted with the poor little chap) and I would be happy to pay you for the chance to give him and a couple of his friends a good home. Heck, I even plan on opening them up if I can find one. ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on October 31, 2005, 09:50 AM
Hmmm...

My CC was charged today for the Covert Ops Clone.

In addition, when I go to the "my account" section of SWShop.com, it says they Covert Clone is In Stock Now.

Could these be arriving a month early?   :)

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on October 31, 2005, 09:04 PM
That would be fantastic!  I ordered 2 of these guys but I think the Target clone looks better.  I hope this is a sign that one is on the way as well.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2005, 01:10 PM
I'm still desperately trying to order 3 of these - can't find them anywhere on the site...
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 1, 2005, 01:13 PM
I think I've given up.   :'(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on November 1, 2005, 02:11 PM
Too bad I've already offered up my extras to a local pal, it sounds like I could have made a fortune watching Rob and Jesse out-bid each other for them... (http://www.jedidefender.com/images/newsicons/icon30.gif)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 1, 2005, 02:42 PM
You dirty...   :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Morgbug on November 1, 2005, 02:52 PM
Too bad I've already offered up my extras to a local pal, it sounds like I could have made a fortune watching Rob and Jesse out-bid each other for them... (http://www.jedidefender.com/images/newsicons/icon30.gif)

Really?  What a novel idea. :D

No charge on my credit card yet.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 1, 2005, 04:50 PM
I pay in American Dollars - is very good.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Morgbug on November 1, 2005, 05:16 PM
Point: Rob.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: ruiner on November 1, 2005, 05:53 PM
How ironic would it be if this ugly bastard turned out to be the next Toy Fair Vader?

 :-X
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on November 1, 2005, 07:36 PM
How ironic would it be if this ugly bastard turned out to be the next Toy Fair Vader?

 :-X

Don't you dare say it out loud!  ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Gatillo on November 1, 2005, 10:32 PM
That will be great.  I thought Toy Fair Vader was pretty bad and I got 4 of them on a fluke from the fan club.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 1, 2005, 10:45 PM
That will be great.  I thought Toy Fair Vader was pretty bad and I got 4 of them on a fluke from the fan club.

Will you take $15 for one?   :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 2, 2005, 12:43 AM
I don't have a toy fare vader either - that might be just about the only figure I'm missing to this day.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Gatillo on November 2, 2005, 09:04 AM
Quote

Will you take $15 for one?   :P
Quote


Its funny, I sold one for 15 or less originally and have been unable to part with the other 2 "extras".  Some part of me does not want to sell them for a big chunk of cash and the other part wants to kill that part. :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on November 2, 2005, 01:51 PM
I got an email this morning that my 2 troopers shipped.  Now I have 2 of these on the way and 2 holo emperors.  Of course stupid me saw the holo figs in person and bought them even though I ordered 2 online.  I'm so impulsive sometimes...  Any one want to trade fo rthe 2 emperors?  I still need Bly, and a Tac ops trooper.  2 holo emps for a Bly and a Tac ops trooper?  Anyone?  Anyone?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JediMAC on November 2, 2005, 01:57 PM
I got my Covert Ops Clones at 8:45 this morning!  Of course, I'm luckily right next to the Lucas shipping warehouse here in L.A., so I'm usually amongst the first to get something when it starts shipping.  But that means everyone else should keep an eye out for theirs in the next day or two...

Nice looking figures, even if one of the bubbles was sealed on the card practically sideways.

Packaging absolutely sucked, as usual.  The two figures (in their starcases) were just tossed into a box with one small piece of thin brown paper crunched up for padding.  These guys are a joke...
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on November 2, 2005, 02:20 PM
I got my Covert Ops Clones at 8:45 this morning! 

Cool!  I guess that means the charge on my CC a few days ago wasn't a fluke!  :)

 
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Morgbug on November 2, 2005, 04:13 PM


Packaging absolutely sucked, as usual.  The two figures (in their starcases) were just tossed into a box with one small piece of thin brown paper crunched up for padding.  These guys are a joke...

Monkeys, especially of the crack-smoking type, don't like being called a joke :-X
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 2, 2005, 04:19 PM
Since I was too slow to order one of these, I hope you all get herpes from that crack smoking monkey.   >:(

 ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on November 2, 2005, 04:24 PM
Monkeys, especially of the crack-smoking type, don't like being called a joke :-X

Time to dredge up the photos I took from my visit to the SWShop offices... I think that last guy was promoted from "Order Processing" to "Packaging".

(http://www.tradefederation.net/cldata/User_files/40912c30139f82da.jpg)

(http://www.tradefederation.net/cldata/User_files/40912c4513ac9030.jpg)

(http://www.tradefederation.net/cldata/User_files/40912c5613bd43e3.jpg)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on November 2, 2005, 05:15 PM
Just got mine now. About to tear into it.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they saw all the negative reaction to the final product and said, "Uh oh, we better ship these now, before they can cancel their orders!". :D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on November 2, 2005, 05:25 PM
I was hoping the final, close-up view would make it look better.  I wish I was getting the Target version and not the purple whiskered wonder with sparkles  :P  But I'll take it cause I'm a clonetrooper freak ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on November 2, 2005, 07:06 PM
Didn't they say that they were going to offer a few more after the first orders started shipping?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on November 2, 2005, 07:10 PM
Didn't they say that they were going to offer a few more after the first orders started shipping?

They have continued to come and quickly go. Keep refreshing that page, dude. :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 3, 2005, 01:06 AM
As pissed as I am that I didn't order these before because I need one for the wall and one for the shelves... I'm kinda glad that I still have my $30.00 and don't have a pair of these steaming turds.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Morgbug on November 3, 2005, 11:39 AM
Just got the shipping order for mine 8)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on November 3, 2005, 11:41 AM
Just got the shipping order for mine 8)

Got my shipping confirmation e-mail today too.  Should be here next week!   ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Bobafett77 on November 3, 2005, 11:50 AM
I just checked the status of my order and I should be receiving my shipment today! ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on November 3, 2005, 05:15 PM
I bet even with his purple whiskers and sparkles this guy would be impossible to get if it was a store exclusive.  I wish Target would offer their special clone trooper online.  That way I'd actually have a chance at them...  They offered the Lava Vader online the 1st day ROTS figures came out but no others since then.  I wonder why. ???
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 3, 2005, 05:53 PM
I just got mine today. I dig it.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Kenobi on November 3, 2005, 06:23 PM
Got mine today as will. 
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on November 3, 2005, 07:15 PM
Im jealous
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 3, 2005, 07:58 PM
I just randomly checked SWshop.com and there it was, in stock. I went to order more, and it was no longer available. :'( Then I refreshed the page, and it was no longer listed.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on November 3, 2005, 08:11 PM
 :'(   :'(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: SpudTrooper on November 4, 2005, 01:18 AM
lol got mine today as well, glad i ordered it cuz i knew i would regret it if i didnt. see the 2nd post on page 1   8)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 4, 2005, 10:22 AM
Well I ordered mine right off and everytime I look it still isn't showing as shipped=I'm worried as hell. I remember how a TON of people were trashing this and saying it sucked and they wouldn't buy it..no way. Funny I see those same now upset that they can't get it. When you wait....you're late

but I haven't got mine in yet so I'm (hopefully) temporarily pissed >:(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on November 4, 2005, 10:59 AM
I have 2 that should be here today but I still have mixed feelings about it.  The only reason for that is because I'd rather have the Target version which I think looks better (more sinister) and the Target one if FREAKING HARD TO GET!  The "Purple whiskered wonder w/ sparkles" is cool but it looks like it was geared towards my 10 year old daughter.  Not a complaint because clones are cool and Hasbro owns me when it comes to clone troopers and stormtroopers.

For the Covert Ops trooper I ordered it the moment it was available online.  Very stright forward.  I'd do the same for the Target trooper but so many don't follow the "rules".  I have 2 Targets near me and wrt the 1st clone exlusive BOTH allowed their entire stock to be DCPI'ed prior the the official release date so that the figures never made it to the shelf.  Annoying  >:(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: GGPiKE on November 4, 2005, 03:27 PM
Well I ordered mine right off and everytime I look it still isn't showing as shipped=I'm worried as hell. I remember how a TON of people were trashing this and saying it sucked and they wouldn't buy it..no way. Funny I see those same now upset that they can't get it. When you wait....you're late

but I haven't got mine in yet so I'm (hopefully) temporarily pissed >:(

I haven't recieved any kind of email either about it being shipped. I ordered mine back on September 1st. A little strange that all these people that ordered later are getting thier orders filled and shipped. I'm going to be a little annoyed if it doesn't work out. I've already sent them an "email" about it . . . . 2 days ago, and have yet to get a reply. Beautiful customer service!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 4, 2005, 03:52 PM
Mine shipped Monday, got it yesterday.  Awesome packaging.  I don't want to open it, lol.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on November 4, 2005, 07:12 PM
but I haven't got mine in yet so I'm (hopefully) temporarily pissed >:(

You'll get over it.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 5, 2005, 02:00 AM
LOL-I'm over it MJ ..got my 3 today
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: SilverZ on November 5, 2005, 11:27 AM
Mine showed up as well yesterday, and after spending some time looking at the figure, I still think it's silly looking. I guess it's a fun repaint, but it doesn't feel like it would fit into the movies for me. I just can't get into EU-ish toys.

The paint job is just way, way overboard. It's also great to see the #41 Clone's upside down belt remains intact and, well, upside down.  ::)

The thing that gets me though is with the camouflaged parts of the uniform. They're done with three different tones of paint, and this time, unlike Gree, it doesn't bleed into a blurry mess. It looks perfectly clean, sharp, and detailed. It proves that camo can be done properly, and that Gree was needlessly botched.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on November 5, 2005, 11:35 AM
I totally agree Jared.  I'm an over the top clone trooper fan and I have to say this is my least favorite clone so far -- by a lot!  Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I have it (2 since I collect one of each card style) but my daughter agrees it looks like it was targeted for the 10 year old girl crowd ::).  It's like they hired a GI Joe person to cross over and make a funky Star Wars figure in some sort of exchange program.  Maybe there is an extra cool GI Joe coming out soon  :P.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 5, 2005, 02:17 PM
Rebelscum just reported that the clone trooper went back into and back out of stock again today.

I still haven't been able to order...  :P
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on November 5, 2005, 02:23 PM
Bah!  >:(   :'(
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on November 5, 2005, 02:24 PM
Rebelscum just reported that the clone trooper went back into and back out of stock again today.

I still haven't been able to order...  :P

Me either. Not really worried about it now. If you search for it it comes up but you can't add it to your cart.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 5, 2005, 03:33 PM
Yeah, the paint deco is WAY too weird for my taste.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 5, 2005, 11:11 PM
Went in and out of stock yesterday as well. Again, I tried to order more, but by the time I clicked to order, it was gone.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on November 7, 2005, 11:05 AM
I have a feeling this is going to be the only ROTS figure that I really want and won't have one of. :( I just can't bring myself to pay some way out eBay kind of price for it. ::)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on November 7, 2005, 11:45 AM
I hope I'm not rubbing salt on any wounds but I was looking (not playing...what?) at mine last night and it's really growing on me. The joints move better and more smoothly than any figure I have and I really dig the solid plastic of the shiny material it's made out of.  When it's not exposed to really bright light it blends well with the shadows in a creepy-cool sort of way.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on November 7, 2005, 03:18 PM
I hope I'm not rubbing salt on any wounds but I was looking (not playing...what?) at mine last night and it's really growing on me.

No, you're not. As much as I am bothered that I was unable to get at least one of these, I don't begrudge anyone lucky enough to get one. In particular someone who opens and plays around with it.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: OT Freak on November 7, 2005, 06:47 PM
The thing that I find strange is the fact that hasbro showed us with this figure they can properly apply camo on a figure, so why did they screw up Gree so bad?

I like this figure. I ordered 3 way back when the pre-order came up. I really like the packaging. The purple is a little out in left field, but for the most part I'm happy to have them.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Ice on November 7, 2005, 07:25 PM
If you have played BB front II..u might get an idea where hasbro is headed with the clones..they introduce several new clones..
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: rishakra on November 7, 2005, 09:30 PM
I don't have the game but I'd like to see some examples! Is there a website that shows some of the new clones you are referring to?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Ice on November 8, 2005, 08:33 AM
If you have played BB front II..u might get an idea where hasbro is headed with the clones..they introduce several new clones..
They have clone engineer, clone sharpshooter, heavy trooper, clone marine..i dont know of any web site that show them )= but they are cool..
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 8, 2005, 09:33 AM
After opening this guy up, I have to say that I'm a little dissapointed. I like the paint job, but, I think the #41 torso doesn't work well with the head they're using.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 8, 2005, 02:44 PM
So, anyone have two extras?   :P :o
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2005, 10:57 AM
So, I got my order in the mail yesterday... but I didn't have a chance to open them because I went straight from work to the Hockey Game (Wild v. Phoenix). 

So, I got home from the game and took a brief look at them before heading to bed.  I have to admit that once I had them in my hand, they don't suck quite as bad as I first thought.  Don't get me wrong, I am still not thrilled about owning a purple kitty-cat deco, ugly silver Clone Trooper but it's not as bad as it could be. 

I guess that at this point, I should just be happy that I was lucky enough to grab one for my collection and just move on...  :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on November 9, 2005, 05:08 PM
I have to admit that once I had them in my hand, they don't suck quite as bad as I first thought.
Yeah, the the purple markings don't stand out as much as they do in that loose pic we all saw. Up on a shelf, he just kind of looks dark camo.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on November 9, 2005, 05:33 PM
He's back…

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 9, 2005, 05:55 PM
I was just about to report that. I was able to order some more.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: OCEAN on November 9, 2005, 07:56 PM
 I received my two troopers today. They do not look as shiny as they did on the SW website. I'm happy about that. These figures are a great addition to my collection.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: jokabofe on November 9, 2005, 07:58 PM
"Partially covered in vac-metallized finish, with camouflaged patterning on select sections of armor"

What? Mine isn't vac-metallized at all. If they changed that before the actual release, they should update their description.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2005, 08:00 PM
I was just about to report that. I was able to order some more.

Ditto! 
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on November 9, 2005, 08:11 PM
Man, Metajedi's never on when this comes back. He's gonna **** if he misses it his time...
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on November 9, 2005, 08:16 PM
Yay!   (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/froehlich/f060.gif)

Just ordered 2.  8)

Thanks for the heads up, finally.  :)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on November 9, 2005, 09:24 PM
Man, Metajedi's never on when this comes back. He's gonna **** if he misses it his time...

LOL! I busted out when I read this. I guess I complained a little too much. Sorry about that. And yes I was about to get my 2 Troopers.  ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 9, 2005, 10:09 PM
Got two!

What a relief, now I won't have to pay $1000.00 to Brian's toys for a pair.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2005, 10:33 PM
Looks like they might be gone again...  :-\
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Gatillo on November 9, 2005, 10:55 PM
This thing is awesome.  The guys at the shop.starwars are playing with us and having lots of fun.  I love it, jajaja
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 10, 2005, 01:16 AM
Just watch, everybody finally gets to order and then in a few days, they'll offer up all the jacked ones at a reduced price.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on November 10, 2005, 01:25 AM
Just watch, everybody finally gets to order and then in a few days, they'll offer up all the jacked ones at a reduced price.

I could use a couple more.  ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on November 10, 2005, 02:05 AM
Just watch, everybody finally gets to order and then in a few days, they'll offer up all the jacked ones at a reduced price.

If they do, I''l be requesting a refund of the difference. Mine was jacked.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jesse James on November 10, 2005, 02:18 AM
At a reduced price...  Hey, that'd be alright.  I hope that's the case really, but at the same time I feel bad for the people who did get trashed ones too.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 10, 2005, 10:03 AM
This last round had better be in good condition - no where did they mention these being the left over non-mint ones.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 10, 2005, 02:38 PM
Has anyone here received their Clones with beat up cards/bubbles?  I'd be pretty disgusted to hear that SWS.com would knowingly ship something they know that's being treated by most fans as a collectible, not a toy, at full price.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Bobafett77 on November 10, 2005, 02:57 PM
Has someone received damaged ones yet? I haven't seen a post about that. Maybe they undersold on their preorder, or, some of these could be from cancellations. All of the ones I received came in perfect condition. There was virtually no packing material though  :o so thank god for the cases!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 10, 2005, 03:46 PM
Has someone received damaged ones yet?

Ook, about 5 posts up.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on November 10, 2005, 04:40 PM
Yeah, it wasn't FUBARed or anything, but a corner was creased.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Bobafett77 on November 10, 2005, 05:14 PM
Yeah, it wasn't FUBARed or anything, but a corner was creased.

Sorry to hear it, Ook. Was that the only one you ordered or did you get some good ones and using that as an opener?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on November 10, 2005, 05:20 PM
I only ordered, but I'm an opener all the way. It doesn't matter. But it will if they offer crap cards cheaper, because I'll want a price adjustment. LOL
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JayDouble on November 15, 2005, 01:49 PM
Got my 2 today.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: MetalJedi on November 15, 2005, 06:47 PM
Got mine as well.  ;D
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jayson on November 15, 2005, 06:49 PM
Me three
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: ruiner on November 16, 2005, 10:23 AM
I ordered mine at the same time I ordered the X-Mas Vader (dodges tomatoes), so it looks like I won't get mine until December.

Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Morgbug on November 16, 2005, 03:32 PM
Did anyone miss out on these in the end?
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2005, 11:41 PM
*raises hand*

I sorta want one for completist sake, but at the same time it's not as nice as the Target Shadow Trooper IMO.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 17, 2005, 12:47 AM
Did anyone miss out on these in the end?

My pimp Jeff has me covered.  8)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DSJ™ on November 17, 2005, 12:51 AM
Mine are in the mail tho they have to be rerouted.  ;)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2005, 10:31 PM
Mine got here today.  Not as bad as I was expecting, but the glitter is hideous.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Kill_Solo on November 17, 2005, 11:25 PM
I received 2 more of these today! Yay!
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: DarthAcroyear on November 24, 2005, 03:56 PM
Did anyone miss out on these in the end?

Regretfully, it would seem that I have for the moment. :( Shame too because I've always kind of liked this ugly little guy.
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on December 16, 2005, 03:51 PM
I guess he was back yet again, today (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1565017&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1565017).
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Ook on December 17, 2005, 05:35 AM
IN STOCK (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104205)
Title: Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Post by: Jesse James on December 17, 2005, 07:08 AM
Not at the moment though. :)

Man, I was looking at some prices through there too...  I never seem to browse much online, but holy cow some of the basics were really high in price.  $8.99 and supposed "listed" at $12.99...  Is everything a Target exclusive there?