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Title: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Ben on July 7, 2005, 06:25 AM
Oh ****. (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html)

I'm thinking the worst, myself. A day after the announcement of the Olympics in London? In protest of the G8 summit? Hopefully, I'm just being paranoid.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Hes No Good to Me Dead on July 7, 2005, 09:37 AM
I hope all our members in London are OK. :'(
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Famine on July 7, 2005, 09:44 AM
Al Quieda is claiming responsibility for these attacks, and the killing of Australias head Envoy in Iraq.

May God be with London as they deal with the aftermath of these attacks.

Kevin
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 7, 2005, 10:00 AM
Afghanistan and Iraq was a nice start, but as long as we have governments like those of Iran in power, leaving mints on the pillows of these murderers, providing aid and support and safe haven, these terrorist attacks are going to continue.  It's time to continue cleaning house over in that hell hole on the other side of the planet.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: John C on July 7, 2005, 10:21 AM
Al Queda and it's ilk are scumbags.  It's unfortunate that they are not a part of one country becuase they would be much easier to deal with.   I pray for the Brits like I prayed for the 9/11 victims.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 7, 2005, 10:26 AM
" >:(!" That's all I've to say about it.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2005, 10:30 AM
Al Quieda is claiming responsibility for these attacks, and the killing of Australias head Envoy in Iraq.

May God be with London as they deal with the aftermath of these attacks.

Kevin

Not Al Qaeda - but a new previously unknown spin off.   Exactly the type of problem we're going to encounter more and more over the next decade or four.

****** news any way you slice it - anyone know if the bombers at least had the decency to include themselves? 
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Hemish on July 7, 2005, 10:47 AM
From what was repoted it was 7 blasts
Packages most likely between 845 and 1016 am
Why do they go after just regular people??
Pisses me off to no end
Problem is these people will never go away , take out one and another will rise up to take its place.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Diddly on July 7, 2005, 10:53 AM
Perhaps it was the French, angry at losing the Olympics?

Yeah, horrible time to joke, I'm sorry. I hope all our UK members are okay.

 >:(  :'(
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Famine on July 7, 2005, 10:54 AM
7 explosions. 7. Thats 7 groups of non-military targets. Thats 7 collections of families who will never be the same. It's a damned shame, it really is.

And Zod, I had the Al Quedia thing coming off of the TV, so I didn't have time to fact check.

Kevin
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Hes No Good to Me Dead on July 7, 2005, 11:12 AM
Al Quieda is claiming responsibility for these attacks, and the killing of Australias head Envoy in Iraq.

May God be with London as they deal with the aftermath of these attacks.

Kevin
I didn't hear about an Australian Diplomat being killed, but I did hear about an Egyptian envoy. Either way it's bad news.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Famine on July 7, 2005, 11:15 AM
Sorry, Egyptian. Somehow I heard Austrailia, and it got mixed.

Kevin
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Darth Kenobi on July 7, 2005, 01:15 PM
 :'( Prays go out to those who have been affected by these ******* ******** who think that they will do good by killing innocent people.  I hope all of our members from here and the other sites are okay.

So far they are not sure if its homicde bomber or not, there is a report right now saying that a supicous package has been found at a train station in the evening.  If it were homicde bombers hopefully the Brits can find they remains and burie them in pigs blood and entails so that for the rest of entinuity the ******** will be uncleaned.

Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: JediMAC on July 7, 2005, 02:36 PM
Very sad, and obviously tragic.  Unfortunate (though likely intentional) that it had to occur just a day after London was celebrating getting the 2012 Summer Olympics, and during the G8 Summit in Scotland.  Granted, to me, this was just a matter of when, not if.

Damned terrorists.  >:(

Thoughts and prayers going out to everyone across the pond.  I hope Rob and the rest of our resident JD UK'ers are all OK too...

4 Planes - U.S.
4 Trains - Madrid (IIRC)
4 Subways (almost) - London

Why does 4 seem to be the magic number on all of these attacks on mass transportation?  ???
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Darby on July 7, 2005, 02:41 PM
This makes me so angry.  That's about all I have to say about it other than like everyone else, my thoughts and prayers are with the folks over there.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Dimetrodon on July 7, 2005, 02:53 PM
This stuff just makes me angry...

Not Al Qaeda - but a new previously unknown spin off.   Exactly the type of problem we're going to encounter more and more over the next decade or four.

Not if we just go over to their desert and drop some bob-ombs. It is the easy answer.

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Why does 4 seem to be the magic number on all of these attacks on mass transportation?

just wait... they'll blame the Fantastic 4 or something dumb?
violence on tv encourages the middle eastern proto humans...
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Darth Kenobi on July 7, 2005, 03:38 PM
Very sad, and obviously tragic.  Unfortunate (though likely intentional) that it had to occur just a day after London was celebrating getting the 2012 Summer Olympics, and during the G8 Summit in Scotland.  Granted, to me, this was just a matter of when, not if.

Damned terrorists.  >:(

Thoughts and prayers going out to everyone across the pond.  I hope Rob and the rest of our resident JD UK'ers are all OK too...

4 Planes - U.S.
4 Trains - Madrid (IIRC)
4 Subways (almost) - London

Why does 4 seem to be the magic number on all of these attacks on mass transportation?  ???

Don't know why 4 seems to be the magic number but I think its more corenquence then anything else.  With the attacks on the WTC and Pentagon it was orgiinally planned for 4 or more plans to attack the West Coast sites as will as the attacks that already happened in NY and DC.  It could be for the train bombings that the cells where 4 member cells since you wouldn't want alot of people hanging around. 
On a personal side my brother-in-law is from Wales and has familiy and friends in London so far he has heard from everyone except one person (hopefully he hears from him soon).  My Brother-in-law's mom didn't even know what happened until he called her from America and asked if she heard any news.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 7, 2005, 07:53 PM
My aunt, uncle and a couple of cousins are there.  We are trying to get their schedule for their trip so we can see if they were still in London at that time.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 7, 2005, 08:40 PM
The highly touted "Theory of Four" is officially debunked.  2 more undetonated bombs were found, the intention was six.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: JediMAC on July 7, 2005, 08:46 PM
Interesting.  Good thing only 2/3rds of them worked (relatively speaking of course).  Where were those two found?  I haven't heard that report yet...
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 7, 2005, 09:31 PM
I just want to send out my thoughts to not only the families of those who lost their lives today in this senseless attack, but also to any and all JDers and their families in London, and to every single London resident right now.  I hope that all of you are safe. :'(
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Vator on July 7, 2005, 10:06 PM
Since we were having Tornados and Flooding from Cindy this morning, I remember when the news was first broken by my local NBC Affliate, just befour 6 o'clock this morning.

Truley a horrible day. I think Senator McCain said it best in regards to these kinds of attacks. "If we loose to them in Baghdad, then the battle will be fought in Pheonix and New York." Of course, I'm paraphrasing...but he's right.

God Save the Queen.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Commander CuDa on July 8, 2005, 12:45 AM
My aunt, uncle and a couple of cousins are there.  We are trying to get their schedule for their trip so we can see if they were still in London at that time.


Could be a stupid shot in the dark but I saw a man wife and kids (didnt see the kids though from texas or huston some place like tht that had been there today and were all fine. I no its a one in a million chance but well there ya go .

I got a best friend there on vaction with her family and im worried cause i cant reach her and i guess sim cards on cell phones there are not working right now due to the police radio waves or some crap.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: CHEWIE on July 9, 2005, 02:21 AM
I know if my heart that we are doing the right thing over there  by choosing where the primary battelfield is and spreading freedom... and it's going to probably be impossible to stop every attack by these heartless people... there are millions of potential targets, 365 days a year, etc. 

I am thankful that the people of Britain have the will to face these inhuman acts and not stand down.  Standing down has not worked in the past.  Only by routing them out and by opening the eyes and eductating the next generation of their children can we avoid more attacks in the decades to come.  The best defense is still a good offense.   

And what a sad incident this is... it was never a matter of *if* but *when*... my heart and prayers go out to everyone affected by this. 

God Bless.

 :'(
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 9, 2005, 12:32 PM
I'm just glad that all our british friends here and over at RS are all okay.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Rob on July 9, 2005, 02:45 PM
The highly touted "Theory of Four" is officially debunked.  2 more undetonated bombs were found, the intention was six.

Zero reports of that on googlenews... but I did find this:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00111.htm

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There also are reports that police may have discovered two unexploded bombs as they sifted through the wreckage of the four bombs that did go off. .....Scotland Yard has denied finding undetonated explosive devices in the wreckage.



Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Rob on July 9, 2005, 02:59 PM
I know if my heart that we are doing the right thing over there  by choosing where the primary battelfield is and spreading freedom... and it's going to probably be impossible to stop every attack by these heartless people... there are millions of potential targets, 365 days a year, etc. 

I won't get into a debate from here on out, but in light of your blatantly political statement, I thought it worth sharing that the Iraqi Chief Spokesperson now believes that the London attacks were linked to the Iraq insurgency.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/iraq_britain_bombings

Meanwhile, in 2004 alone there were over 28,000 people killed in 3,200 separate terrorist incidents.  A dramatic rise from past years.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1684077,00.html

Spreading freedom indeed.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Ben on July 9, 2005, 03:30 PM
Yay freedom!  ::)

Anywho, dig this article from April about some sick brainwashed Islamic ***** in London.

Terror on the dole. (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/londonnews/articles/10329634?version=1)

Bunch of twats. It's one thing to have faith, and wholly another to bomb people for the hell of it.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Ben on July 9, 2005, 03:43 PM
Hotels 'cash in' on attacks. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4662809.stm#sad)
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2005, 04:07 PM


Spreading freedom indeed.


Yup, just ask the people of Iraq and Afghanistan who can vote now rather than have a dictator run their countries.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Ben on July 9, 2005, 05:37 PM
And I'm sure there's about 100,000 Iraqi civilians who would have loved it had they lived to see it.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2005, 07:14 PM
And I'm sure there's about 100,000 Iraqi civilians who would have loved it had they lived to see it.

Yup, and the same number of Americans who would have loved to see a free America and abolition of slavery at the end of the Revolutionary and Civil Wars too.

No pain, no gain.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Vator on July 9, 2005, 07:17 PM
Can we not make this political like another site did?
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2005, 07:32 PM
Can we not make this political like another site did?

It's a political issue, a result of political moves.

I suppose we can all sign in and click on the thread and say, "oh yeah, explosions are bad, people should stop exploding things," and then click post.  But politics is all up in this ****.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Rob on July 9, 2005, 07:42 PM
Can we not make this political like another site did?

It's a political issue, a result of political moves.

I suppose we can all sign in and click on the thread and say, "oh yeah, explosions are bad, people should stop exploding things," and then click post.  But politics is all up in this ****.

I'm as guilty of making a political post as anyone else, but if from here on out we can't keep that out of it then we'll have to lock this down.  Them's the breaks.

By the way, explosions are bad and people should stop exploding things.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Vator on July 9, 2005, 07:47 PM
Can we not make this political like another site did?

It's a political issue, a result of political moves.

I suppose we can all sign in and click on the thread and say, "oh yeah, explosions are bad, people should stop exploding things," and then click post.  But politics is all up in this ****.

That's not what I meant, but the thread shouldn't be derailed into a political argument...instead it should honor those lost in the horrible attacks in London.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: DSJ™ on July 9, 2005, 07:53 PM
That's not what I meant, but the thread shouldn't be derailed into a political argument...instead it should honor those lost in the horrible attacks in London.

Agreed, as Rob mentioned, there will be no Political discussions allowed on this forum, same goes for Religion and War. Anymore and this will be (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/lock.gif)
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2005, 08:06 PM


That's not what I meant, but the thread shouldn't be derailed into a political argument...instead it should honor those lost in the horrible attacks in London.

Send some flowers.

Explosions are bad, people need to stop exploding things.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Vator on July 9, 2005, 08:09 PM
*sigh* Dressel, take it to PMs if you've got something to say.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Nicklab on July 9, 2005, 08:11 PM
I have to agree that turning this into a political discussion is a disservice to the victims of this attrocity.  I used to work with people who used the King's Cross train station every day and I'm genuinely concerned for their wellbeing.

Turning this discussion into what the roots of terrorism are that led to this attack would be a very circular and short discussion.  It might be wiser and more beneficial to ask people to do what they can for the victims and in the same breath ask that they take their own time to look into the topic.  Message boards are not always the best sources of history and information.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: CHEWIE on July 10, 2005, 06:14 AM
I know we have our different political views, and I believe in what we are doing in our nation's stance on routing out terror. 

But at least we all agree that the people that do these horrible things to innocent civilians are wrong.

 :P
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 10, 2005, 03:16 PM

But at least we all agree that the people that do these horrible things to innocent civilians are wrong.

 :P

Absolutely.

Just understand that there are many people, including most of the world (and me,) who think that our actions are making it worse and are offended by the thought that people believe that our countries actions are justified, just like there are those who are offended by the fact that many americans do not support the war. Let's just not push any buttons. :-X

Peace.
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 10, 2005, 04:05 PM
By the way, explosions are bad and people should stop exploding things.

Crap....and that's what I get paid to do!
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: Rob on July 10, 2005, 04:13 PM
By the way, explosions are bad and people should stop exploding things.

Crap....and that's what I get paid to do!

I'm glad you're there to explode things when needed.  But if there were a day when (and yes, I know this is never ever going to happen) where your services were no longer needed, I'd be fine with that. :)
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 10, 2005, 04:45 PM
And don't worry Matt, we'll find someone to pay your salary if that day ever comes.   ;)
Title: Re: Explosions rock London.
Post by: CHEWIE on July 11, 2005, 05:25 PM
I'd like to salute everyone here for two things -

(1) The mods for keeping this thread open with a warning.

(2) Everyone here being mature and not letting it get out of hand.

These things are again further proof that this is the best Star Wars forum community around.

 :P