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Community => Watto's Junk Yard => Topic started by: FX-7 on August 2, 2004, 04:51 PM
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Anyone shocked at this new case in Utah as much as I am? Its amazing that this guy was caught in all of these lies and has been living a sham for so long. I find it amazing that he also dooped his whole family and everything as well! Sad that he had to kill her to cover up the story though, what a loser, and his wife was hot
And then there is Scott Peterson who appears to be headed down thanks to lack of funds. Good luck on beating the rap Gentelmen, hope you both rot in jail!
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Remember FX-7, both of them are innocent until proven guilty. I think the Utah case is facinating though, the whole crazy aspect of him, the lies he told about graduating college (what has he been doing if not going to school), the lies that he was going to medical school, the lie about her being missing, everything is just tragic
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The problem here and with any murder case is that so much gets publicized on tv, radio, papers, etc. nowadays that it gives a blueprint for people to correctly do the murder. Ever since OJ I think more and more people are taking notice. And more and more people will walk. Cough, cough, Scott Peterson anyone?
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What kind of coward kills a woman?
I mean, how could you even strike one?
******* pussies.
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Cough, cough, Scott Peterson anyone?
I sort of hate that this bozos name is so close to my own...it sucks the big one actually
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Cough, cough, Scott Peterson anyone?
I sort of hate that this bozos name is so close to my own...it sucks the big one actually
Kinda like how 911 was my 21st birthday.
Regardless - I agree, everyone please stop killing your pregnant wives. There's no excuse for this crap. It's not like it's difficult to just not kill anybody...
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This is my community. I live less than 5 miles from Memory Grove, where Mark Hacking (<---- unfortunate name) said his wife went jogging.
That's also not far from Federal Heights, where the Ed Smart family lives and their daughter was abducted by a nut in 2002.
I'm sad about the whole thing. It's been everywhere here for two weeks. News, flyers, organized searches; the works. Early in this case it was inferred that this wasn't a typical missing persons case. Mark Hacking is wacked, his lying being the obvious tip of the iceberg.
It bothers me that the guy would allow/invite 3000+ searchers to comb through the canyon he said she was jogging in while knowing the truth. Knowing that they were wasting their time, that there was no abduction or hope of rescue. He knew this was a recovery search from day one. He knew it and allowed his and her family, the searchers and the public to live in hell worrying about her safety.
Regarding his and her parents; all I can say is wow. I'm humbled by their kindness toward each other, the public, the police, the press and especially Mark. Lori's mother said earlier as evidence began to point to Mark and his lies were uncovered that she would always love him, even if he were involved in the disappearance. The benefit of the doubt she showed him throughout, and her actions since Sunday show she has a peace and perspective on the loss of her daughter.
She said; "My family and I are profoundly anguished to lose Lori, our precious daughter and sister. Our lives will never be the same and we will grieve for her and miss her until the day we die. But when that day finally arrives, we know with absolute certainty that she will be there with open arms to greet us and our reunion will be glorious. Until then, we know where she is and who watches over her."
Read her whole statement here: http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=110305&nid=5 (http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=110305&nid=5)
Mark isn't running or hiding. He seems genuinely messed up from all accounts. I feel confident that justice, whatever form it may take, will be served in this case.
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Cough, cough, Scott Peterson anyone?
I sort of hate that this bozos name is so close to my own...it sucks the big one actually
Yea, at first I thought he said your name... I was confused. :-[
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Can the Scott Peterson case just go away? Who the **** really cares about the outcome? It's sick what the media does for tabloid journalism these days, I can't stand it
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I care, because I belive in justice.
Kevin
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I care, because I belive in justice.
Kevin
We can have justice without a media-hyped court-room circus. Infact - we're more likely to have justice without all this attention.
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This is true. I totaly agree. I'm just stating that I'm one of those people who care.
Kevin
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I found the following news interesting. Well disturbing actually. My wife is pregnant and due in less that 1 week. She has gestational diabeties. Basically about 20% of pregnant women can get diabeties while pregnant. Once they have the baby the diabeties goes away. They have to watch their diet because the baby can add on too much body fat and be born earlier than it should.
Why bring that up? Well, apparently it is more common for men to beat their pregnant wives than it is for women to get gestational diabeties. Imagine that. That's at least 20% of men that beat their pregnant wives than this diabetic complication in pregnancy.
I ask you guys. Who in the hell would beat their wife for one thing let alone their pregnant wife? Wild.
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I ask you guys. Who in the hell would beat their wife for one thing let alone their pregnant wife? Wild.
Well, you asked, so off the top of my head:
OJ Simpson
Tommy Lee
Bobby Brown
Steven Williams (Stone Cold Steve Austin)
Brandow
Scott Peterson
Mark Hacking (Utah landfill dude this summer)
Buddy Cianci (Mayor of Providence)
And on the other side of the fence you've got Liza Minnelli and that awful Lorraine Bobbit woman...
This little article may help explain their points of view, in their own words:
http://www.digitalferox.com/wolff/wifebeating.htm
6/1/2000
Rocker Tommy Lee brutalized his wife in front of his children and he has never been more popular. “Punching women in the face is rad. I mean...so rad. Rad like me on drums!” Lee comments from his jail cell, where he is serving time for a recent parole violation. “I’m doing pushups every day, and I’m fashioning a pair of brass knuckles in the metal shop. They’re ******' awesome, okay? Hold on. Let me catch my breath, I’m so excited describing this. Okay, these brass knuckles...they say ‘****’ across the knuckles. I mean, really...a letter for each finger. Thank God the word **** only has four letters. Thank God, you know? Anyway, I’m gonna smash some bitch in the face with ‘em, hopefully my wife, a feeble mother of two.”
Lee’s enthusiasm for spousal terrorism must be contagious, because married celebrities throughout the world are descending in droves to the horrific and suddenly tony depths of domestic shock-violence. Even mega-ultra citizens of celebdom’s who’s-whoville are partaking in this proliferating super-trend. Recounts famed nerd, Steven Spielberg, about a recent incident with wife and Temple of Doom star, Kate Capshaw: “I chased her across the playground of my youngest son’s school. She was screaming. Recess was in session. And I don’t know what scared the kids more: the eight-inch butcher knife flailing above my head, or the three-inch erection jutting out of my fly.”
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Anyway, I’m gonna smash some bitch in the face with ‘em, hopefully my wife, a feeble mother of two.”
String him up by his left nut, then see how tough he is. Garbage.
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Sorry, my post might not have been clear... He didn't really say that. It's a little creative writing by someone regarding what we all think he was thinking.
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Sorry, my post might not have been clear... He didn't really say that. It's a little creative writing by someone regarding what we all think he was thinking.
String him up anyway. A man who hits a woman is lower than dirt. Period.
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Peterson
Guilty of First Degree murder for Laci
Guilty of Second Degree murder for Connor
MAY HE FRY OR ROT IN HELL!
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Good Riddance.
What proved it for me was when they caught him with his hair dyed and something like 10 large in cash headed for Mexico.
I'd rather he rot in a dark room for the rest of his life but if they're going to give someone a lethal injection anyway, he makes a great candidate.
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Yawn...when's the Michael Jackson case or
The Rapist Kobe part Deux start? ::)
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Eeesh. When will the media catch on that most people really don't give a **** about **** like this? Granted, Scott Peterson deserves to burn in hell, but does anyone really want to see anymore of Michael Jackson? And what good will trying to smear Kobe do? It's not like he's going to be kicked off the Lakers' lineup for whatever he did.
I really don't think a guy with millions of dollars needs to rape anyway. Cash usually loosens things right up. ;) :D ;D (I'm so fried for that one.)
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He's toast. (http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/13/peterson.case/index.html)
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He's toast. (http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/13/peterson.case/index.html)
Unfourtanetly it will be many years of waiting for Lacy's famly to have this sentence carried out. This state needs to do what they say and start executing this ******** in mess. One a month should help relieve some of the stress on the state since they is now 640 people on death row now, not inculding Scott.
On another related note I think that if Geragos tries to pull a appeal saying he didn't do a good job repersent Scott, he should be disbared and Lacey's family can hold him monetary resposeble for emotional damages since he got a killer off just because he didn't do a good job defending him.
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I know it's entirely different, but can we open this up to "stop killing pregnant women" all together? I'm thinking of that nut in Missouri.
Maybe it could fit here if we added "Men, stop killing your pregnant wives and/or being a ******bag and not realizing that the kid your not-pregnant wife says is hers was recently plucked from a corpse (that your not-pregnant wife killed)"...
Thoughts?
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Nah, leave it.
When I heard about that crazy bitch in Missouri, I honestly felt sick.
It seemed to me the kind of thing that wouldn't even cross Rob Zombie's or Wes Craven's minds.
I read an article not long ago about this type of killing-pregnant-women bull**** and how it seems to be a phenomenon lately. Allow me to dig it up.
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Round 3 (http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/22/missing.family/index.html).
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/US/02/22/missing.family/top.missing.family.ap.jpg)
Very sad. Ex-boyfriend this time, and not the husband for a change. Killed her 7 year old son too, in addition to the unborn one. Man, some people out there are certifiably insane...
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It doesn't make any sense why people could kill children, of any kind. :'( People like that deserve to recieve prison justice. They may be criminals, but they do have some sense of justice in the world.
Kevin
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Round 3 (http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/22/missing.family/index.html).
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/US/02/22/missing.family/top.missing.family.ap.jpg)
Very sad. Ex-boyfriend this time, and not the husband for a change. Killed her 7 year old son too, in addition to the unborn one. Man, some people out there are certifiably insane...
And only 30 minutes north of where I live - it's all over the place here.
Sick stuff...but less suprising each time...
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I hate to say but just recently in my area a mother threw her 3 month old against a wall, choked it, hit it, and when all that did not kill it she smothered it with a pillow. Nice eh?
A few days later an boyfriend killed his girlfriend or wife's 16 month old son by doing what you may ask? Punching it in the stomach. That's a real man there folks. Punch a 16 month old in the stomach. What a waste of sperm and egg that guy is.
Here is what I propose should happend to these two. Do the same thing to these people that they did to the babies. Someone please throw that lady against a wall, punch her, choke her and then smother her to death with a pillow. For that guy maybe we can have a bunch of people repeatedly punch him in the stomach until he dies.
Works for me! But no. They will probably get sympathy instead. They were stressed.
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Man, I hate the sypathy card. Women who have Post Birth Stress or whatever get a "get out of jail free card" after SAWING off her babies arms. Or they methodicly drown babies by age, and they get held up as a hero for proving such things exist. Or the boyfriend who squeezed the baby till its ribs broke and then snapped its arm. And they will say "I was stressed." bull****.
Kevin
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Scott Peterson just got the death penatly.
The piece of evidence that sealed it for me is the fact that he placed himself where the bodys washed up, 90 miles from home. Plus the concrete residue on all of the items.
Kevin
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And Robert Blake got away w/ it...
crazy...
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Yep. Unbelievable. Granted, she wasn't pregnant, but hell.
It must've been the same murderer that killed Nicole and Ron...
******' A. Right down the street from me when they announced that verdict. I should've gone down there and kicked the ******'s ass. >:(
I will, next time I see him, or O.J. Goddamned celebrity scrotelickers.
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Must be nice to have money to get away with killing your wife. I heard one of the jurors talking about how the creditability of those two stuntmen who accused Blake of asking to kill his wife came in as a factor. The Jurors didn't belive them since they were drug users and had bad images. I guess to be believed hitman now have to be churh goers.
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At the risk of being flippant, it would appear this guy didn't get the memo (http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegSun/News/2005/07/19/1137773-sun.html). I sincerely hope the guy is innocent but arresting the guy a day later? I dunno :-\ Another stupid waste of lives >:( I have no idea of the mindset necessary for this, it's just insane. Best thing my wife and I ever did was have a kid.
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******* piece of ****! We got him yesterday. >:(
I just read the news and the body found is confirmed as his missing pregnant wife.
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Here we go again...
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/breaking_news/12204521.htm
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Here we go again...
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/breaking_news/12204521.htm
Can you summarize the story, Rob? It appears you need to be a member to access the news.
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Here we go again...
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/breaking_news/12204521.htm
Can you summarize the story, Rob? It appears you need to be a member to access the news.
That's odd, I didn't have to sign in last night at home, but I'm not a member there...
This is a good opportunity to plug a fantastic website:
www.bugmenot.com
You just type in the URL of the site that is requesting that you register, and they probably have a log-in name on file that you can use. Comes in very handy when you're not feeling like signing up for every damn thing on the internet...
Anyways:
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Police seek leads on missing pregnant woman
Family says she never would have left first child behind
By LEAH M. ZERBE
zerbel@phillynews.com
LaToyia Figueroa is gone, and it seems without a trace.
The 24-year-old mother-to-be hasn't been seen since Monday, and friends and family said she would never leave her 7-year-old daughter behind like this.
The bright-faced woman is 5 months pregnant with her second child, and those close to her are beginning to fear the worst.
The news that's most discouraging to them came from police.
She hasn't used her cell phone or a credit card since her disappearance, and she's usually very well connected with her family, especially her daughter.
"It's unusual for her to do something like this. She's not the type of person to just disappear," said Joseph Taylor, an uncle. "So far there's nothing that gives me hope from what I'm hearing."
Christine Lewes, the missing woman's childhood friend and West Philadelphia High School classmate, drove to Philadelphia from her Wilmington home to help find Figueroa.
She described the 5-foot-2, 130-pound woman as being very responsible, noting that she never missed work at T.G.I. Friday's on the Benjamin Franklin Parkway, where she was a waitress.
But this week, Figueroa did not show up.
A Southwest Division detective said last night Figueroa was last seen at 52nd and Market streets.
The pregnant woman had a doctor's appointment at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania Monday and police believe she showed up for it.
Police believe that Figueroa and the father of her baby "were working on things" but were not currently together.
The pregnant woman recently moved back to Ithan Street near Spruce with her uncle, Emmanuel Taylor, the man who helped raise her.
She has been living there on and off during the last year, according to police.
"It's not like 'Toyia to just run off. I pray that she's not hurt," said Resheia Robinson, who lives on the other side of the twin home on Ithan Street.
Robinson said the walls are thin and she heard Figueroa yelling and fighting with someone on the phone a few times last week, although she didn't know who it was.
"I'm just shook," Robinson said after only learning of the disappearance yesterday.
Police said they have no suspects or motive, and added that the father of Figueroa's baby is cooperating.
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It was only a matter of time before the locked up the
husband boyfriend. What is the deal with these guys? They need to read this thread and stop killing their pregnant wives girlfriends.
The fact that whoever did this left the 2 year old alive is good, but the way the kid witnessed the crime and recounted it in his limited vocabulary makes me really sad.
Ohio Mom's Body Found; Boyfriend Charged
Jun 23, 11:33 PM (ET)
By M.R. KROPKO
CANTON, Ohio (AP) - A massive search ended in sadness Saturday when authorities announced they found a body believed to be a pregnant woman who vanished from her home a week earlier. A police officer believed to be the father of the unborn child was arrested on two counts of murder. Jessie Davis, 26, who was due to deliver a baby girl on July 3, was reported missing after her mother found Davis' 2-year-old son home alone, bedroom furniture toppled and bleach spilled on the floor.
The boy gave investigators their first clues. "Mommy was crying. Mommy broke the table. Mommy's in rug," the boy said.
Thousands of volunteers had searched for Davis over several days, while investigators continued to question Bobby Cutts Jr., 30, who is the father of Davis' son but is married to another woman.
Investigators were mum on many details of their work until they announced Cutts was taken into custody Saturday and was to be arraigned on charges of murder in the deaths of Davis and her unborn child.
The Stark County Sheriff's Department also said a woman's body was recovered in Summit County at 3:30 p.m. Authorities did not give a location but said they believed it to be Davis.
Television news footage taken from helicopters above Cuyahoga Valley National Park showed investigators riding off-road vehicles to reach an area that is heavily covered with trees and brush. It also show authorities carrying a body bag on a stretcher and loading it into a white van.
Roger Riggins, an investigator with the Summit County medical examiner's office, confirmed a body was found at the southeast edge of the park, about 25 miles from Davis' home in Lake Township.
Tim Miller, director of Texas EquuSearch, an internationally active search group that organized the volunteer effort, said Davis' mother, Patricia Porter, and other members of her family were called together and told about the body in late afternoon.
"A lot of the community stopped their lives to looked for Jessie and that meant so much to her and the entire family that they knew they were not alone in this," he said.
During the investigation, a newborn baby girl was left on the doorstep of a home in a nearby county, raising questions about whether it belonged to Davis. DNA tests were being conducted when another woman confessed to leaving the child at the home.
An attorney for Davis' mother said the family had a roller coaster ride of emotions and had no comment.
"I've seen them laugh, cry, be angry - everything you can imagine," Rick Pitinii said. "They need to be together, and they need to be alone, and they need to grieve."
Cutts, a Canton police officer since 2000, has said he and his wife are separated and that she knew about the affair with Davis.
Chief Deputy Rick Perez said the case was still being investigated. He would not comment on whether there were any other suspects.
Telephone messages seeking comment were left at the office of Cutts' lawyer, Bradley Iams, and the home and office of the Rev. C.A. Richmond, who is Cutts' pastor. Iams' home number is unlisted. Cutts' wife also did not return a phone call.
Cutts has been on paid administrative leave from his job.
"There is no denying that this has resulted in giving a black eye in the opinion of the local community as well as the opinion of the rest of the nation," Canton Police Chief Dean McKimm said of Cutts' arrest.
The police department had tried to fire Cutts in 2003 when authorities conducting a drug raid on his cousin's home found Cutts' handgun hidden under a mattress. Canton police officials said Cutts gave the gun to his cousin for protection and said Cutts was lying when he reported the gun stolen. A federal arbitrator ordered the city to reinstate the officer, saying police had not proved the allegation.
Cutts pleaded no contest to a disorderly conduct charge in 1998 after he was accused of breaking into the home of a former girlfriend. He was sentenced to three years' probation.
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Wooster ohio is where this happened :o My childhood town. :'(
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Must remember it like it was yesterday.
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I mean like young childhood. You knew what I meant Jesse. I have 2 years of school left, come on.
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I have 2 years of school left, come on.
Elementary school?
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Damnit Matt... beat me to it!
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Not his wife (http://news.aol.com/story/_a/suspect-in-marines-murder-spotted/20080109165409990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001), but this news story seems to to fit here.
Quite a few things bother me about this case, not the least of which is the fact that a pregnant woman (or anyone) was murdered.
- Didn't this man's wife notice the blood stains in their house? Or the new paint job? Or the big BBQ or grave in the tiny back yard? She had to have helped him or at least been aware of what he was up to.
- He must be a grade-A dumbass. To say that she came over to his house and slit her own throat in front of him -- then he cleaned up, burned and buried the body and then ran? ::)
- Just because they "thought" the accuser and the accused had some sort of "friendly relationship," the military didn't feel the need to question the accused? That doesn't make any sense. According to her friends and family there was not a friendly relationship. She made it clear she was scared and intimated by him and her pregnancy was the result of the rape.
- Why did the Marine Corps. handle the criminal investigation of the alleged rape? Why wouldn't the local police investigate the crime? Perhaps someone in military could explain that to me -- I've never understood that. Where are the lines drawn? The police are clearly handling the murder investigation instead of the Corps.
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All very good questions. Something that has bothered me quite a bit about this story is the fact that the military plays by its' own rules. It seems very clear they failed to protect her, and she had actually come forward to file the charges. What does a case like this do to those who are victimized and are debating what to do? To ask those who serve their country to do so in an institution that does not protect them is the ultimate betrayal.
And we have absolutely nothing in our criminal justice system that can adequately punish someone who would do something like this. Waterboarding would be a feather-tickle compared to what he deserves (assuming he is guilty of course).