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Collectibles => The Vintage Collection => Topic started by: Scott on August 17, 2010, 11:54 PM
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Two early candidates:
4-LOM
Darth Vader
I usually rearrange the pegs at the local Target so they have all of the same figs on each peg...two pegs are almost packed with 4-LOM and 1.5 have Vader on it...maybe kids finally have enough Vaders. I was thinking Dengar was going to be in there too but he seems to be selling fairly well. As do 3PO, Leia Luke and Han.
I fear what is going to happen with Wave 2 when there are 3 different styles of Clone Troopers, Anakins, Obi-Wans and Grievouses on the pegs
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Here it seems to be Vader... I see a lot of Cloud Car Pilots.
I can't find a Fett for the life of me.
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Hands down, Vader, Vader, Vader... and more ******* Vader. ::)
He's everywhere. He's like fly dirt.
4-LOM and C-3PO as well, but nobody's coming close to Vader at this point.
The best sellers around here seem to be...
-Boba Fett
-Dak
-AT-AT Commander
-Hoth Leia
-Dengar
Luke's somewhere in the middle ironically. I see him easily enough, but he's never in vast abundance anywhere he is. Dengar's similar, as is the Bespin Pilot, and Hoth Leia is surprisingly moving well I think, similar to these others.
Fett is moving well, as always, and Dak I actually don't see often at all. The AT-AT Commander I usually see one of... Always just one for some reason though. Weird.
The Cloud Car and Snowspeeder are ALWAYS in either low supply, or non-existant with the repaints of other stuff hanging about on the shelf.
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Yeah 4-lom and Vader.
With 4-lom peggwarming it seems to indicate that for now it's just collectors buying the line.
To be fair the Vaders are not pegwarming that badly -most unusual -with 4-lom the undeserved star of wave one.
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I'm not surprised. The 30th annivesary carded 4-LOM actually pegwarmed here enough to go on clearance.
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I have to agree with what's warming pegs. But it's not that bad yet, they are just selling slower than others. It seems at many stores the Vintage pegs are empty. It's way too early to judge the line success. After the next two waves will be the tell tale sign. The first wave is usually the heaviest in quantities.
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Like others have said, pretty much the same thing here. Vader is definitely the runaway winner so far, as he is always in generous supply everywhere it seems. I can totally understand always having a Vader out there, but I think we might be at the point where they can just pack him 1 per case. Like it was mentioned, most kids already have their Vader (or are just into CW and don't care), and I know we collectors definitely have our fill of them. 4-LOM is also a pretty big pegwarmer.
Fett is definitely the toughest to find here too. I've only seen one at retail, and that's probably because I work part time stocking at our local Target. Otherwise, I think they'd all be gone before I'd get there to shop. I do think Leia seems to be selling very well, maybe the best selling Leia figure aside from the Slave Leia version. Luke and Dak seem to sell well too. Otherwise, the rest of the wave seems to do ok. I can't say any, aside from Fett, are tough to find - but none aside from Vader/4-LOM are necessarily pegwarmers either. I'm curious to see what will happen with the ROTS wave. A nice wave, to be sure, but a lot of overlap on figures we've seen lots and lots of since 2005 (Anakin, Obi-Wan, Grievous, etc.)
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Do you think Hasbro sensed the potential for "consumer overload" on the RotS wave and that's why they chose to start the "UGH" nonsense with that wave and not the ESB wave?
Maybe they are hoping the carded collectors bite on the chase foil cards and therefore help move what could otherwise be excess 'commons' like Anakin, Obi-Wan, Grievous, etc.
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I agree with you Jeff, due to the package style I think Hasbro is expecting many collectors to buy doubles already. (One to keep packaged and one to open). When you add a foil chase program many collectors will buy three of a particular character. This is definitely part of their overall strategy to get some lost Collectors back in. I hope it works, anything to keep the line going I fully support regardless of it bringing out the white sneaker wearing bearded Hot Wheels scalpers.
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It could be due to restocking that I am not seeing - but at this point, it seems everything is pegging :o
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It could be due to restocking that I am not seeing - but at this point, it seems everything is pegging :o
Yup. Same story at least at my Target. Vintage pegs are pretty much stocked to the gills. No Fetts though. CW stuff seems to be selling through, mostly.
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1 being hardest to find, 11 being easiest to find:
1. Boba
2. Dack
3. AT-AT Commander
4. Leia
5. Luke
6. CC Pilot
7. C-3PO
8. Han
9. Dengar
10. 4-LOM
11. Vader
Vaders... Vaders everywhere. 4-LOMs too. Stores are only stocking maybe half of the pegs allocated too, and there are usually at least 5 Vaders and 4-LOMs, and 3 or less of everything else.
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I forgot Han... Mostly because I don't see him often. he actually sells out really fast here, which surprises me because I found him a little boring due to the outfits short screen time. He's going fast though, which should be expected I guess since Han appears to be popular in general.
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Just speaking to the stores I frequent, it seems that the hardest figures to get are: Luke, Boba, Dak and AT-AT Commander in that order.
The next level of difficulty are Han, C-3PO, Cloud Car Pilot and Dengar.
After that, most times I'll always see plenty of Leia, Vader and 4-LOM.
I think with both figures, it was just too soon to release either of them on a Vintage card. To me it's an early indication that the packaging isn't doing anything to help bolster sales. A repacked figure is a repacked figure and what few collectors are left have pretty much been into this line for a while (at least since 2005 if not since 1995) and that means that any figures that came out post ROTS were either skipped by the collector back then for some reason OR they already have that figure and aren't interested in buying it again.
With the error set of 4-LOM and Zuckass being readily available online after CV, I think having repacked 2007 4-LOM in the Vintage packaging was a bit too much of 4-LOM overdose.
For Vader, he's really no different than the 2008 figure - maybe the head comes out more easily so you can remove the third piece of the helmet, but that doesn't make enough of a difference to warrant a re-release of the same figure you're currently packaging in the Legends line. Clearly if little Johnny wants a Vader, his parents can grab that Legends figure.
I'm going to go back to a previous comment I made in jest and that is that I do think that Hasbro execs are forcing the Star Wars brand team to put Darth Vader in the first wave of each packaging iteration. That has been the case since 2005.
I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro is trying to pressure Dave Filoni to add a scene to the Clone Wars where Anakin has a dream about the future and sees himself as Darth Vader cutting down Jedi - just so Hasbro can justify making an animated version of Vader and then everytime the Clone Wars line reboots, that animated-style Vader will be in the first wave as one of the repacks.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro is trying to pressure Dave Filoni to add a scene to the Clone Wars where Anakin has a dream about the future and sees himself as Darth Vader cutting down Jedi - just so Hasbro can justify making an animated version of Vader and then everytime the Clone Wars line reboots, that animated-style Vader will be in the first wave as one of the repacks.
LOL. That sounds believable. And they'd justify it in Q&A answers and flat out refuse to ever re-release the hard to find Aayla Secura or Thi Sen.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro is trying to pressure Dave Filoni to add a scene to the Clone Wars where Anakin has a dream about the future and sees himself as Darth Vader cutting down Jedi - just so Hasbro can justify making an animated version of Vader and then everytime the Clone Wars line reboots, that animated-style Vader will be in the first wave as one of the repacks.
Whilst I do accept the point,I also have to admit I'd love an animated Vader a la CW series...
Five Vaders were sitting on pegs in a K-Mart I visited tonight and Fett is nowhere to be seen anywhere since the first release of the TVC here in Oz.
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Vader is everywhere here too. Boba just the opposite. Sounds like a nationwide trend. In general it seems like sales have slowed a bit...I see plenty of vintage figs on the pegs pretty much everywhere I go now.
And for the record, I would buy an animated Vader. ;D
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The least one that I can find so far is Luke Bespin. Although I can obviously find him it just seems like he is selling good between the 3 main stores I look at. But sure 4-LOM, Dengar, Cloud Car Pilot, AT-AT Driver, C-3PO all seem to sit the most.
Kind of early for pegwarming status though. Maybe after next month we'll know for sure. AT $8 a pop they should be sitting right? ::)
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Since they've been out now for about three weeks, everywhere I look, Vaders are peg warming. Bespin Luke is hard to find and I've only Seen Boba ONCE! I expect the 3p0's to pegwarm as it sux and Han is a loser as well. But the others seem to move fairly well. I think they look really good and I believe having a CloudCar for the pilots is a GOOD move as is Dak and the Luke's snowspeeder being out. I like bounty hunters but WHY is 4LOM in the Vintage line when he has been available for a couple years vs IG-88 who hasn't been released since the last Vintage line in 07??? Dengar looks great and I'll get him and Zuckess soon.
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IG-88 is in the current Saga Legends line.
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IG-88 is in the current Saga Legends line.
Oh I know, I picked one up to replace the 'battle damaged' one I had from 07 ;)
I was just musing outloud why 4-LOM was in the Vintage line VS IG-88.
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IG-88 is in the current Saga Legends line.
Oh I know, I picked one up to replace the 'battle damaged' one I had from 07 ;)
I was just musing outloud why 4-LOM was in the Vintage line VS IG-88.
At least based on why I wanted to buy the 4-LOM, my guess is since in 2007 we got a Vintage IG88 people would rather get a Bounty Hunter that hadn't been released with a Vintage version (unless I'm forgetting there was a Vintage 4LOM)
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I was taking a look at the pegs this week, with things getting cleared out from Christmas shopping, to see what was left. Aside from TRU, whose higher prices keep a little more on the pegs, it seems to be down to just a few characters locally. Target is almost empty. Our closest store had 6 4-LOMs and one Dengar today (they had also had Hoth Han and the ROTS Clonetrooper recently). Wal-Mart, while stocked full, has basically nothing but the Clonetrooper and Sandtrooper - and lots of 'em. There's also a couple of Anakins, and maybe a straggler or two from the ESB wave, but that's about it. Kind of surprising, in a way, that the biggest pegwarmers seem to be the army builders of the first couple waves - the Clonetrooper and Sandtrooper. Wouldn't have guessed that a few years ago.
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I'm not surprised really...they're both great figures, but we've been inundated with both of them the past couple years. Especially the clone trooper. Clones have really gone from hot to tired in just a few years. Stormies, on the other hand, I would buy with a vengeance.
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Same here. Clones and Sandtroopers everywhere. Dengar and 4-LOM a little. Anakin. Otherwise, the line is selling through very well.
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Same here. Clones and Sandtroopers everywhere. Dengar and 4-LOM a little. Anakin. Otherwise, the line is selling through very well.
This matches the Chicago area too. For all of the Vader haters good luck finding him! He is sold out everywhere, I bought the lone one I found for my nephew. $6 Vintage = Many repeat purchases.
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ESB onslaught at Target still. Even Dak, who is shortpacked.
Walmart still has some of the ESB wave, but also a mix of ROTS and a spatter of ROTJ.
Clones everywhere, especially the yellow helmet freaks.
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Man, St. Louis must be the mecca of Dak's because even when I've had to leave the state twice this year I've still not seen one anywhere, for a long while now. :) I was in Ohio and had to go to D.C. a day recently and stopped at stores on both roadtrips and saw basically the same things I see here locally... I'm glad Hasbro's doing more pilots and not judging it by your area CHEWIE.
For me, I see a lot of Wave 1 pegwarmers, but the $6 price has eliminated AT-AT Commanders who were hanging around in abundance till now. I'm still seeing tons of 4-LOM, Han, and some Vaders hanging around (though I assume he's repacks, and not necessarilly wave 1 remnants).
From Wave 2 I really only see Anakin and Obi-Wan and TONS of the Clone... I wouldn't have guessed that many of that figure would be around at this point. I see all the deco variations, the yellowing and non-yellowing... The ROTS Clone is probably the biggest pegwarmer I see anywhere from any wave of figures. :-\ My WM near me has probably 20 or 30 of him alone.
From Wave 3 I see Woof, Ackbar and some repacks like Anakin with the card change and stuff. None of the others from the wave though, ever, which is a bummer.
I see Sandtroopers too, but not to the extent of the ROTS Clone, and the $6 price has moved most of the Sandtroopers as well. Target's devoid of them, but WM still has some. I got all the ones at K-Mart I could wrangle though, at the current sale. WM has a few, but at this point I don't consider it the pegwarmer that the other figures are.
I'm seeing Boba Fett again, a good bit... I'm also seeing Grievous, who wasn't around till recently in what I have assumed were repacks with Wave 3 or possibly Wave 2 reshipments (though I've not seen all the other figures like Sidious and the Guard). I have some a couple Magna Guards pop up, but they go fast at Target and WM.
I'm not seeing much Endor wave shipping at all right now. What's around just seem to be the pegwarming stragglers, and no new cases going out much at all.
Toys R Us is so screwed up that they're not worth even bothering with. What they have doesn't jive totally with any other store.
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The VERY surprising pegwarmers in my neck of the woods? The Episode III Clone Trooper and the Sandtrooper. 4-LOM is close to pegwarmer status, but can't hold a candle to the other two.
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The VERY surprising pegwarmers in my neck of the woods? The Episode III Clone Trooper and the Sandtrooper.
Same in my area....It's disgusting actually. Hopefully more will be cleared out before next weekend.
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I'd agree on the Clone for sure... They're everywhere. Each K-Mart I visited had 15 of him, and he was practically the only figure left at one store, besides CW/Legends.
Sandtroopers have vanished at Target here, and K-Mart, but not Wal-Mart... Though I'd say it's maybe 1/3 the # of ROTS Clones if I were to just guess. 4-LOM is around in some quantity too, but nowhere near the ROTS Clone who is at every store, and in abundance at each store.
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I only ever see the ROTS Clone, Sandtrooper and Anakin/Vader in any significant quantities at Target, Walmart and Kmart locally. I wish Kmart had done a buy one get one this week (I missed the one a couple weeks ago... :'( ) because I'd like to pick up some more of the Sandies.
I think its a positive that the figures that are peg warming are ones that would get bought up quickly if they do a sale (individuals buying multiples) as opposed to pegwarmers from previous lines which sat because buyers were unlikely to pick up a second of that character.
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Jesse, it's really Target stores with the Dak figure. They over-ordered the living hell out of the ESB wave, and most stores still have several Dak figures just hanging there. I don't think it's a bad thing that he's still available in my area, other than it's a sign that Target over-ordered the wave. But, I haven't seen one at a Wal-Mart or TRU in a while... so I attribute that to Target being over zealous with the initial wave. Evolution Rebel pilots galore though still at TRU on clearance, and Comic Pack Rebels still in Wal-Mart clearance aisles for $11.00 each. It can be relative to different markets of course as you don't seem to see them like we do here (I also recall that Star Trek figures apparently were hot in your area, around here it was the exact opposite and they are STILL sitting at Toysrus, caked in a layer of dust and ash).
Around here, Most of the ESB wave is still rather easy to find, outside of Luke and Leia.
The Clone and Sandtrooper are definitely pegwarmers from the ROTS wave. I don't find it surprising that the Clone is pegwarming, because really the ROTS sculpt looks better aesthetically, and it's alongside that figure in the Legends line at the same time. That oversized helmet, and yellowing too just kills it. The Sandtrooper... I planned on getting a dozen. But I've bought ZERO. The reason? Each one I see has yellowing thighs, and the belts are molded horribly (take a look at them, the edges are all choppy and frayed). Hasbro did a terrible job on both of those figures in my view.
For ROTJ, the only real pegwarmer I'm seeing is the Endor Rebel. If I had an extra $500 on me, I could circle St. Louis and nab an army of around 70 of them without too much trouble... saw 13 of them alone yesterday at one Wal-Mart. Gammoreans though? I've been persistent as hell and have only found 5 so far (have a 6th, thanks to a trade with a Scummer).
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I usually see quite a bit of the following:
Sandtrooper
Endor Rebel Soldier
Han Hoth
Anakin Skywalker
Obi Wan Kenobi
Clonetrooper ROTS
Some of these:
4 LOM
Cloud Car Pilot
C-3PO
Commander Cody
AT-AT Commander
General Grievous
Magna Guard
I rarely see these (it does not mean I never see these - just rarely!)
Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Dak Ralter (yep never see him now), All of the ROTJ wave except Endor Rebel Trooper
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I forgot Han, Cloud Car Pilot, and Cody... I see those three a ton as well, but I'm wondering if I'll see Endor Troopers often too once that wave is more widely spread here. Right now, it seems like ROTJ wave in general is not common... Though I see Ackbar, Woof, and R2 often, but they're always the same 3 or 4 of each at any given location. Some places have none of one of those, but will have 3 each of the other two...
Endor Rebels, Gammorreans, Luke, and Wicket are non-existant.
Now we're starting to see Magna Guards though, more often, so I think a lot of it has to do with waves trickling in over time. ROTJ Wave I still consider too new and thin here. Wave 1 was widespread but is picked now to to minimums and Wave 2 I probably see more of it than 1 or 3 combined.
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From the ESB wave, 4-LOM, Dengar, and Han are the easiest finds, in that order. I wonder if Hasbro ever reconsidered 4-LOM for this line/wave. He can be easily crowned King of All Pegwarmers for TVC. Even 3PO AND Vader sell well in my area! I've only seen Vader 3 times since the debut of TVC.
From Wave 2... always Obi-Wan, and, to me a shocker, Anakin! I wonder how Anakin is always consistently left behind. He's not really pegwarming, but he's always there. There's at least 2-3 of him when I visit Target, and maybe only 1 Clone Trooper, which is even more shocking.
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You know, checking out what was at both Target and Wal-Mart today, and it was a lot different. Target is essentially sold out of the majority of their Star Wars stuff. The vintage pegs had four 4-LOMs on them, and that was it (after putting a case of the ROTS wave out yesterday). The other stuff has sold through well too (CW, exclusives, vehicles, etc.) with few exceptions. Wal-Mart on the other hand has so many figures (from all lines) on the pegs that they are falling off. I did see that one case of the ROTJ wave must have gotten put out today, but otherwise it is mostly full of ROTS stuff and more primarily Sandtroopers and Clonetroopers (and tons of them). There might be the odd ESB figure here or there (I saw at least one Luke and Fett, but those might have been carry-overs). Overall, the vintage stuff seems to be selling pretty well so far and I hope that bodes well for the future of the "collector" line. The ROTS stuff seems to be a little more common (the two troops in particular), and we'll see what that first "mixed" wave does at retail in 2011.
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Only thing sitting in quantity here is the Cloud Car Pilot. Not even moving at 50% off ($5).
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Wal-Marts here are mostly full of Sandtroopers and yellow helmet Clone Troopers, along with a smattering of Anakin, 4-LOM, and Dengar. Target has an even larger number of Sandtroopers and both yellow and corrected helmet Clones, with smaller numbers of ROTS Obi-Wan, Anakin, 4-LOM, and Dengar. TRU has about 2 cases worth of the ROTS wave, none of which are moving due to the ridiculous price that is now 3-4 dollars higher than Target and WM.
Seeing that case assortment for the "repaint" wave has me a little worried, considering that the holidays are over and now there is less of a chance for impulse buyers to get all the Vaders and Grievouses off the pegs. Not to mention the fact that there are MORE Sandtroopers in the case, along with the uninspiring "new" figures that we'll be seeing for months after the case is released. Crappy inaccurate Ceremonial Han, I am looking in your direction. ::)