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Title: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Jeff on October 20, 2022, 09:18 AM
More intel from Jayson/Yakface (https://yakfaceforums.com/main/2022/10/18/tvc-rumor-report-another-playset-for-2023/), this time on another potential new playset coming in 2023...

"Doing some digging today, I managed to find info for another Vintage Collection Playset due sometime on 2023. All I have now is a code name “CURT“, SKU and UPC, but it is different than the “BLAKE” playset info (which is the Endor Bunker). Stay tuned for more info when available…"
Title: Re: Rumor - 2023 TVC Playset TBA?
Post by: Nicklab on October 21, 2022, 12:11 PM
I'm genuinely curious about what this might be.

If it's going to be another playset to celebrate the 40th anniversary of ROTJ?  Then perhaps it's a Home One playset.  If they offered it in semi-circular sections that you could join up with one another it would be an impressive display piece.  And at the top of it there could be the command deck for the ship.  As for a pack-in figure?  The Mon Calamari officers would probably be an excellent choice.

I've seen plenty of rumblings in TVC circles about a Cantina playset.  And I think it could be a possibility at some point.  Many people think it could be the next Haslab.  FWIW, I think Mister Skeezler's cantina would be a great reference for Hasbro to design their own Cantina.

As for new media?  Some ideas that I've been thinking about include:

-New Republic Prison barge - from "The Prisoner" in Mandalorian season 1.  The New Republic Security droids are easy to pick for pack-in figures.  But Hasbro would need to start releasing TVC versions of Mayfeld, Burg, Xi'an, Zero and Qin in the process.  But it's a set that would lend itself to the playset concept that Hasbro has been exploring.

-Imperial light cruiser corridor - For fight scenes between Din Djarin and the Dark Troopers, Moff Gideon, or for Luke Skywalker.  Include a blast door.  And surprisingly Hasbro has yet to go with an Imperial setting for a playset.

-Fortress Inquisitorius corridor - from the OWK series.   A section of the tomb perhaps?  Or the plexiglass tunnel?  Again, blast doors would be great.  And either a Purge Trooper or a Seeker Droid for the pack-in figure.


Title: Re: Rumor - 2023 TVC Playset TBA?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 24, 2022, 11:01 AM
I've seen plenty of rumblings in TVC circles about a Cantina playset.  And I think it could be a possibility at some point.  Many people think it could be the next Haslab.  FWIW, I think Mister Skeezler's cantina would be a great reference for Hasbro to design their own Cantina.

Thanks man!  ;D
Title: Re: Rumor - 2023 TVC Playset TBA?
Post by: Nicklab on October 24, 2022, 12:50 PM
I've seen plenty of rumblings in TVC circles about a Cantina playset.  And I think it could be a possibility at some point.  Many people think it could be the next Haslab.  FWIW, I think Mister Skeezler's cantina would be a great reference for Hasbro to design their own Cantina.

Thanks man!  ;D

It's amazing, and I couldn't praise it enough if I tried!
Title: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Jeff on December 6, 2022, 11:16 AM
Looks like yet another repack of that same AT-ST Sculpt... wonder how the legs will hold up with yet another run on that tooling.

No word on price, but you can assume it will be a lot more than you'd like to pay for yet another repaint of this AT-ST.  Might need to wait for better pics to figure out if there is anything new about that Chewbacca figure...

UPDATE: Price = $90  Pre-order tomorrow, 12/7, at 1pm ET at the fan channel outlets.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjUAjl6XwAAnRa_.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjUAjl8WQAAbEUr.jpg)

STAR WARS: THE VINTAGE COLLECTION AT-ST & CHEWBACCA
(HASBRO/Ages 4 years & up/Approx. Retail Price: $89.99 / Available: Spring 2023)


Fans can celebrate the legacy of STAR WARS, the action-and-adventure-packed space saga from a galaxy far, far away, and commemorate the 40th Anniversary of STAR WARS: RETURN OF THE JEDI with this premium 3.75-inch scale STAR WARS: THE VINTAGE COLLECTION AT-ST & CHEWBACCA vehicle and action figure inspired by the iconic scene in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi. While not as imposing as its larger AT-AT walker cousin, the AT-ST was a significant addition to the Imperial side of battlefields in the Galactic Civil War. In Star Wars: Return of the Jedi, Chewbacca and two Ewoks swung from a vine onto an AT-ST, commandeering the vehicle and turning the Empire’s weapon against them. The figure features premium detail and design across product and packaging inspired by the original Kenner line, as well as the entertainment-inspired collector grade deco. Includes figure, vehicle, 1 entertainment-inspired accessory and instructions. Available for pre-order 12/7 at 1pm ET at Hasbro Pulse, BigBadToyStore, Entertainment Earth and Dorkside Toys. Visit starwars.com for more Bring Home the Galaxy product reveals!
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Nicklab on December 6, 2022, 04:33 PM
So what is the draw here?  The fact that a Chewbacca figure sculpt that dates back to 2004 is packed in with the AT-ST?  I mean, the deco on the walker looks good.  But I’ve lost count of the number of times this updated AT-ST has been released. 
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Rob on December 6, 2022, 07:18 PM
No draw unless you’re a newer collector and weren’t around when it last came out. 

I’ve already got one worn muddy feet too… so this isn’t exciting for me at all.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Jeff on December 6, 2022, 08:36 PM
But I’ve lost count of the number of times this updated AT-ST has been released.

Let's see...  I think this is all of them (unless I forgot one :P):

$45 - 2009 TLC AT-ST with 1 figure (Walmart)
$40 - 2010 TLC Attack on Hoth Battle Pack - Hoth AT-ST with 3 figures and Eweb (Target)
$35 - 2012 TVC Endor AT-ST with 0 figures (Kmart)
$100 - 2014 TBS Battle of Endor Battle Pack - Endor AT-ST with 8 figures (TRU)
$60 - 2017 TBS Endor AT-ST with 1 figure (Walmart)
$80 - 2019 TVC Pirate AT-ST Raider with 1 figure (Best Buy)
$90 - 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST with 1 figure (Fan Channel)

That's a solid 14 years of reuse/repacking.  Just crazy to think that in 2014 you got AT-ST release #4 plus EIGHT figures and now you're paying $90 for AT-ST release #7 and one figure.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Rob on December 6, 2022, 09:00 PM
That Walmart one… lol… I bought three at Ross for $10 each.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Ryan on December 7, 2022, 04:30 AM
I only have 1-2 of this version and do like it, for the most part, but a $90 reissue (200% the original price) is far too rich for my blood. Maybe I'll change my mind down the road, but this is a pretty easy pass for now.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Nicklab on December 7, 2022, 08:36 AM
The release history along with the prices over time are telling. And the fact that there are now THREE of these walkers in TVC is pretty remarkable. 

Hasbro Pulse released a demo video for this new AT-ST.  And Chris from the Star Wars design team specifically mentioned that they were aware of issues with the joints in previous releases, and they have tightened them up for this new version.  Is this, plus a Chewbacca sculpt that dates back to 2004 worth $90.  Eh…

https://youtu.be/L5ByUxQDBdk
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Jeff on December 7, 2022, 09:44 AM
And Chris from the Star Wars design team specifically mentioned that they were aware of issues with the joints in previous releases, and they have tightened them up for this new version.

It's sad but I don't know if I believe him.  Hasbro has said in the past that they fixed the leg joints, but time proved it was still too top-heavy to hold. 

I'm going to vote with my wallet and wait on this one.  If it turns out that the legs are dramatically improved, I'll reconsider (but that $90 price tag might still keep me away).  Until then, it's a no from me dog.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Nicklab on December 7, 2022, 10:39 AM
I can appreciate the skepticism.  Wait and see might be the best way to go with this. 

I think I’m more irked about the pricing given the history of AT-ST releases.  This new version is $10 more than the Raider version from The Mandalorian.  But it’s $10 less than the 3.75” TBS version that included 8 figures. Could Hasbro just maybe thrown us a bone by including the two Ewoks that were in the AT-ST with Chewie?
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Jeff on December 7, 2022, 01:03 PM
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Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 11, 2022, 10:43 AM
I decided to get one…just to move one to my Hoth display.  My Mandalorian AT-ST did not have the leg issue, but Tim at Bossk’s Bounty said that his does.  I pointed him to Jesse’s fix, which I used on my older ones…if this new one still needs it, at least there’s a quick and easy fix.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Jedi Idej on December 11, 2022, 06:14 PM
I'm ok with this being all re-pack. An at-st makes sense for the 40th but I don't need another at-st. I would have been miffed if they included a new figure.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 21, 2023, 09:53 AM
Entertainment Earth has my order listed as Processing.  Looks like I should have it this weekend or early next week.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Rob on March 21, 2023, 10:26 AM
I ordered one but am waiting to open it until someone else
Does and posts about those legs. 

Has anyone seen comparison pictures of the Chewbacca and past versions with this sculpt?  If the paint is new I’ll open it regardless.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Mister Skeezler on March 21, 2023, 03:08 PM
I canceled mine, but I might order one eventually. If I miss out, I'm fine with that. The paint job looks fantastic, but the review on Bossk's Bounty didn't look so great with the legs.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 21, 2023, 03:40 PM
I ordered one but am waiting to open it until someone else
Does and posts about those legs. 

Has anyone seen comparison pictures of the Chewbacca and past versions with this sculpt?  If the paint is new I’ll open it regardless.

Bossk's Bounty did a review you can see it here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHxGXP5T60)

The Chewbacca is nice.  I'll let you know when mine arrives if I have to fix the legs.  I made a video of Jesse's tutorial on how to fix them and it's here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvT1wddMJb0&t=3s)
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Mister Skeezler on March 21, 2023, 05:45 PM
I ordered one but am waiting to open it until someone else
Does and posts about those legs. 

Has anyone seen comparison pictures of the Chewbacca and past versions with this sculpt?  If the paint is new I’ll open it regardless.

Bossk's Bounty did a review you can see it here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHxGXP5T60)

The Chewbacca is nice.  I'll let you know when mine arrives if I have to fix the legs.  I made a video of Jesse's tutorial on how to fix them and it's here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvT1wddMJb0&t=3s)

Thanks so much for creating that video! I have a few AT-ST's from when the Black Series 3.75" ones were being clearance out. I need to do this fix on them.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Jeff on March 21, 2023, 05:48 PM
the review on Bossk's Bounty didn't look so great with the legs.

Bossk's Bounty did a review you can see it here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHxGXP5T60)

Yeah, that video review makes it seem like they really didn't do all that much to help the legs like Hasbro was saying they did.  Too bad that after at least 7 re-issues of this sculpt they couldn't find a better way to do the legs so it doesn't topple (or better yet sculpt a brand new one after 14 years of rehashing this mold).
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 29, 2023, 01:51 PM
I received mine from EE today and it stands just fine without the fix.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2023, 03:03 PM
Nice.

From the review Matt posted, the paint apps look new... but they're just comparing it to one iteration of this Chewbacca, and Hasbro has used it lots of times.

Has anyone seen anything definitive about whether it's a new paint scheme or matches an existing one?
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 30, 2023, 07:15 AM
I compared this Chewbacca with one in my BMF Falcon and the paint is darker than that version (the one playing Dejarik in my Falcon has a lot of grey on him and this one does not.)  The one in the Cockpit of the Falcon (he's the one with the headset that came with the Falcon) looks a lot closer to this version.  I still don't have other Chewies out and displayed yet so I can't compare them all, but he's pretty similar to later versions of the character iirc.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2023, 05:48 PM
Trying to get to the bottom of this... here are images of 7 Chewbaccas that use the sculpt... although only the VOTC and Co-Pilot ones use the ROTJ haircut...  I don't see any matches so far.

What other releases of this figure am I missing?

(https://i.imgur.com/4I4TVcE.jpg)
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: CorranHorn on March 31, 2023, 10:30 PM
There’s also the Early Bird Kit Chewbacca from 2005…

(http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS/sw05ealrybirdkitchewiefr.jpg)
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2023, 10:32 PM
Ah right.  That’s the ANH haircut too, so still no matches.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Dave on March 31, 2023, 10:49 PM
what about the Solo releases?
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Ryan on April 1, 2023, 02:25 AM
Not having this Chewie in hand, from everything I can tell it looks like a unique, straight repaint of the 2004 VOTC Chewie.

It's crazy that nearly TWENTY YEARS after the original release of that figure we are still getting repaints that are not that far off from today's standards.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Rob on April 1, 2023, 10:15 AM
Yeah that’s what it seems like to me too.  I’m thinking I’m just going to open this AT-ST today, and decide if I’m selling it or the old one that I fixed the legs on later.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2023, 11:37 AM
I asked at Rebelscum too and got this, seemingly solid, reply.  To me this answers the question.  It's a reasonably updated paint job on an existing sculpt.  I'm officially opening the AT-ST this weekend.

Quote
(https://i.imgur.com/eqv2k0h.jpg)

Here they are side by side- the older version and the AT-ST version.
The lighter accents on the fur have been toned down considerably, but so has the contrast of his moustache (or whatever we might label the fur of his upper lip) which blends less conspicuously with the rest of his face. His bandolier is also toned down slightly and less a reddish brown than the original.
It's definitely an improvement in my opinion, but I can see why others would say these differences are negligible.
Title: Re: 2023 TVC Endor AT-ST & Chewbacca
Post by: Nicklab on April 5, 2023, 12:56 PM
Those paint apps do look considerably better.  I might just take the plunge on this release.