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Title: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on December 7, 2004, 04:02 PM
One of the new blurbs from Action-Figure.com (http://www.action-figure.com/Article13431.html) mentions this:

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Autumn 2005
Evolutions Assortment: Awesome 3-pack showing the changes the characters have made throughout the Star Wars movies. Wave 1 features Anakin (good), Anakin (bad) & Darth Vader.

Very cool idea.  What else do you guys expect to see, or would like to see in this line?  I guess some of the more obvious choices would be:

Obi-Wan TPM/AOTC or ROTS/ANH

Palpatine Senator/Chancellor/ROTJ madman

Not sure how "evolutionary" they're wanting to go with this, but I'd like to see some OT only assortments, of:

Tatooine Luke/Bespin Luke/Jedi Luke

Cantina Han/Bespin Han/Endor Han

ANH Leia/Bespin Leia/Slave Leia

ANH R2/ESB R2/ROTJ R2...  Oh wait, that one doesn't work too well now, does it?!   :P

So whaddaya guys want to see from this line?  Hopefully they keep it at a tolerable $15 price point, but it'll likely hit $20 as most 3-packs usually do...
Title: Re: "Evolutions Assortment"...
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2004, 04:08 PM
To me, these would need to be of characters that appear in both trilogies.  OK here's my ideas:


STORMTROOPER EVOLUTION

- SA Clonetrooper (EP2)
- SA Clonetrooper (EP3)
- VOTC Stormtrooper


ANAKIN EVOLUTION

- Anakin (EP2)
- Anakin (EP3)
- VOTC Vader w/ removable helmet


PALPATINE EVOLUTION

- Senator Palpatine
- Chancellor Palpatine
- Emperor Palpatine


OBI WAN KENOBI EVOLUTION

- Padawan Kenobi
- Jedi Knight Kenobi
- VOTC retooled Old Ben Kenobi


I know I'd grab up those Stormtrooper ones if they had sense enough to make them...

 :P




Title: Re: "Evolutions Assortment"...
Post by: Brian on December 7, 2004, 04:19 PM
I think this line has a lot of potential too, and could be pretty cool if done right.  It is entirely possible it will be re-hash-tastic, but hopefully that won't be the case.  The only scenario I could see being "ok" would be if they packed up the SA Clonetrooper, a ROTS Clone, and the VOTC Stormie and sent them our way :).  I'm with Matt, I wouldn't mind seeing this cross-over into the OT, as long as the pricepoint was low.  The Luke/Han/Leia packs are an interesting idea...but again, if done by Hasbro, they'd probably be repacks.  That said, if they put VOTC Han, POTJ Bespin Han, and a new Endor Han in a 3 pack, I'd buy it ;).  Anyways, I like the ideas given so far:

Clone/ROTS Clone/Stormtrooper

AOTC Ani/ROTS Ani/Vader (not sure if "little Ani" should be included/subbed in or not)

Padawan or AOTC Obi/ROTS Obi/ANH Obi

"naked" 3PO/Silver 3PO/Gold 3PO

Senator Palpy/Chancellor Palpy/Eeeevil Palpy

Could be a really nice little line if handled well, hopefully we'll get some more details on this before too long.
Title: Re: "Evolutions Assortment"...
Post by: Jeff on December 7, 2004, 04:31 PM
I have NO faith in this line being ANYTHING other than some nifty packaged re-hash 3-packs.   :-\

Watch, it will be fuill of things like:

* Kamino Jango / Saga Lilttle Boba / Carkoon Fett
* Ep1 Palpy / Ep2 Palpy / Flashback Emperor
* Ep1 Tatooine Ani / Anakin Jedi Ep2 / Vader Ep3
* Ep1 Jedi Duel Obi / Ep3 Obi-Wan / PotJ Ben


I expect NOTHING good to come of this line.  Seriously. 

A wise man once said, "The future is filled with cheap re-hashes" and until I see something to prove otherwise, I'm taking the grumpy, bitter, jaded route on this one. 

I'm going to say that this line will be jam-packed full of re-hashes.  In fact, just to really tick us off, it may well be the worst-case scenario that we will have to buy these $20 3-pack monstrosities to get one new figure along with 2 sucky repacks. 

I am almost sure of it.... and it will probably be an exclusive here in the USA to boot.   >:(

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions Assortment"...
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2004, 04:48 PM
Damnit Nakatu, you are probably right!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions Assortment"...
Post by: Diddly on December 7, 2004, 05:44 PM
Even if they are new, they'll probably be expensive as hell. Probably around $20-$25, and they'll probably make store exclusive waves too.

Who knows, it could turn out good...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on December 7, 2004, 08:40 PM
It may turn out they're rehashes, but if not, I'd like to see:

Obi Wan: SA Padawan, SA Robed AOTC or ROTS, SA ANH Ben

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ben on December 8, 2004, 02:08 AM
I smell rehash-o-rama.

I bet it ends up being something like those Wal-Mart 3-packs when the DVDs came out.

Though if they did a Trooper pack, I'd go ape**** for that.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on December 8, 2004, 12:51 PM
They will still nab us because undoubtedly they will include one new killer sculpt from ROTS in each set that we will all want.  Then include 2 other repacks from the older lines and slap them in fancy packaging that carded collectors will want as well. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: starwax137 on February 6, 2005, 06:00 PM
They could also do 'deluxe evolutions'....

TPM Ani/TPM padawan Ani/AOTC Anakin/AOTC Anakin with robotic arm/ROTS Anakin/ANH Vader/ESB Vader/ROTJ Vader/Vader redeemed/Spirit of Anakin

That'd be a 10-pk!!

 ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 6, 2005, 06:21 PM
I think they could also do an evolution of C-3PO, start with him all wires (TPM), move to the all gray shell (AOTC) and then the shiny gold (ROTS). This could be considered kinda bland, but they are limited on the characters that have appeared throughout the Saga:

Anakin/Vader
Obi-Wan
Palpatine/Sidious/Emperor
R2-D2
C-3PO
Chewbacca (but he really hasn't changed enough for this)
Yoda (not a lot of variation in the prequel trilogy in terms of outfit - I'm ignoring the TPM puppet)
Clonetroopers/Stormtroopers

That's about it I think - they'd have to get pretty creative to do any other characters (I would think).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: starwax137 on February 6, 2005, 08:39 PM
They could do several Padme packs from each episode really. It's not that 'evolutional', but oh well.

 8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Muftak on February 22, 2005, 04:50 PM
So, there was no hint of these at the Toy Fair, huh? I guess it's safe to say there's nothing to be excited about with them, then, just old figures in new packaging.

Still, it would've been great for them to surprise us with something OT like:

(http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/421573638/36.jpg)

(http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/421573638/37.jpg)

(http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/421573638/38.jpg)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on February 22, 2005, 05:03 PM
What the hell is wrong with leias pelvis and legs there?!

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Muftak on February 22, 2005, 05:13 PM
Ummm...it's a really craptastic Leia figure, that's all...

(I knew I should've gone with Slave Leia like JediMAC suggested...)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on February 22, 2005, 05:16 PM
(I knew I should've gone with Slave Leia like JediMAC suggested...)


Maybe you should have. >:(


Kevin ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on February 22, 2005, 05:18 PM
Yep!   ;)

Cool pix though Bobb.

So I guess you're looking at this as more of an "evolotion" of the character throughout the Trilogy then, huh?

I was thinking more along the lines of the "evolution" of Hasbro's figures of a particular character.  Starting with the early CRAP from '95/96, and evolving into the beautiful VOTC of today.

Your idea is much more likely though, since who the hell would want to be buying anything with that early POTF2 **** in it?!   ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Muftak on February 22, 2005, 05:38 PM
What I'd really like to see is a McQuarrie "concept" figure thrown in of each character somehow, too, that way you could work in some more of the iconic characters that don't change much through the OT, like:

Darth Vader (concept, ANH, unmasked)
Chewbacca (concept, ANH, ESB with dedicated sack o'Threepio)
Boba Fett (concept, toon, ESB)
Artoo (concept, ANH, ROTJ "shocked open")
Threepio (concept, AOTC, ANH)

But that's not ever going to happen...

(And doesn't it suck that there's no good ROTJ Han Solo yet? It was all I could do to use the slab.)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on February 22, 2005, 05:50 PM
All VOTC quality figures, and I think we'd all be happy.

Great pics Muftak.

And they really need to redo that General Leia.  Yuck.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on February 22, 2005, 06:29 PM
What I'd really like to see is a McQuarrie "concept" figure thrown in of each character somehow, too, that way you could work in some more of the iconic characters that don't change much through the OT...

Stop it Bobb.  Just stop it!  'Cause now you're really teasing us with this idea!

I was originally not too excited about the Concept Stormie, or the Concept figure idea in general, but I've since changed my stance on the issue, and look forward to getting some of those more iconic initial McQuarrie character drawings incarnated into plastic.  That'd be too cool.

And ya' know what?  I think some day we eventually will...  Might take another year, or three, but I think the seed's been planted in Hasbro's mind, so when they eventually start running out of figure choices (soon), that might be a new subset of the 4" line that they could turn to.

Maybe MisterPL should go talk to them about it some more.  He's been pimping that idea for years, so I'm sure he could convince them...   ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on February 22, 2005, 06:34 PM
Well, first they need to make the damn McQuarrie Stormtrooper easier to get.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on February 22, 2005, 09:59 PM
This is something I thought Hasbro would have capitalized on earlier.  I thought they were going to do it when we saw the "Flashback" cards before Ep1.  The wheels were turning in their heads at that point I thought.  It does make sense to wait for all 6 films to be finished. 

I assumed they would make packs (various numbers up to 6) of certain main characters in each trilogy such as the following: 

Anakin - Boy, Ep1, Ep2, Jedi Knight, Vader
Kenobi - Padawan, Jedi Knight, Council Member, ANH
Troopers - Various types of clones and stormtrooper
C-3PO - Ep1, Ep2, Ep3, Ep4, Ep 5, Ep 6

That's just an example. 

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on February 22, 2005, 10:17 PM
Is anyone else concerned by an assortment like the following:

commtech Han/Saga Han/OTC Han :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on February 22, 2005, 10:27 PM
You think you're funny?!   >:(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on February 22, 2005, 10:54 PM
You think you're funny?!   >:(

No, just realistic :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on February 23, 2005, 12:22 AM
Jabba!

TPM
ANH SE Version 2
ROTJ   

With bonus "human" version.  ;D

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on February 23, 2005, 12:58 AM
I love a lot of the ideas so far.

I'd actually try incorporating army builders in mostly since it's a way to get 3-packs out there...  Wouldn't want to push on people buying TOO many of the same person over and over.

I'd do a separate Clone evolution 3-pack and include an ARC trooper in it (or Republic Commando even?) with an E2 and E3 Clone...  I'd also do a separate pack then of Stormtroopers showing a Stormie, Snowie, and Scoutie.  A Rebel pack with a Fleet Trooper, Hoth Soldier, and Endor Trooper...

A Gungan, Wookie, Ewok pack would be interesting I think, since people draw parallels to those 3 in the films.

Lots of potentially great sets though.  It'd be more suited to prequal characters I think, than OT characters, only because there's such drastic changes to characters in the prequals due to the extended timeline.  The Luke one though is good too...  From Farmboy to Jedi.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on February 23, 2005, 10:42 AM
Yeah Jesse - I think that Trooper builders would be the way to go...


- Tan Battle Droid, Red Battle Droid, Super Battle Droid

- AOTC Clonetrooper, ROTS Clonetrooper, ANH Stormtrooper

- KOTOR Astromech, R5 Astromech, R2 Astromech

- KOTOR Protocol Droid, CZ Protocol Droid, 3PO Protocol Droid


 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 23, 2005, 10:44 AM
A Gungan, Wookie, Ewok pack would be interesting I think, since people draw parallels to those 3 in the films.

You know - I think this would be neat. I have always thought that Lucas wanted Jar Jar to be the "Chewbacca" of the PT.

I was thinking more about this recently simply because there is an absence of Jar Jar in the ROTS toy line.

Wouldn't it have been better if Lucas had scrapped any need for Jar Jar to be comic relief for TPM and instead have him be an exiled Gungan General who was banished for loosing a battle in the past? He could still have been saved by Qui-Gonn during the invasion, still owed him a life debt, still followed him to Tatooine, but during the final battle they could of had Tarpals die and then Jar Jar take over command of the Grand Gungan Army and defeat the Battledroids. Then in the rest of the PT, he could have still been Gungan rep to the Senate and when Yoda takes the clones to rescue the Jedi, he tags along and fights in the arena. Then during the Clone Wars themselves he serves as a Lieutenant under General Kenobi and in ROTS when Obi-Wan's clones turn on him, Jar Jar dies trying to protect Obi-Wan.

I think if GL had done something like that, I don't think people would MIND Jar Jar as much as a character. Instead GL had to make him a ridiculous clown and use that clown to practically ruin the first movie in the saga.

Yes, I think about Star Wars WAY too much...  ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on February 23, 2005, 10:50 AM
Yeah, I wish Jar Jar hadn't been such a clown... I think the Gungan character design is great, just he acted too stupid, and I really didn't like their blue grenade/bomb puma things.  Yeeeik.

It would have been cool had Tarpals die and a serious Jar Jar character take control - but I wouldn't want his role in AOTC expanded any.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on February 27, 2005, 05:04 PM
I'd do a separate Clone evolution 3-pack and include an ARC trooper in it (or Republic Commando even?) with an E2 and E3 Clone...  I'd also do a separate pack then of Stormtroopers showing a Stormie, Snowie, and Scoutie.

Oh man, that is a fantastic idea, Jesse. A clone pack would get large quantities of my money ;) and I'd get at least one Stormie pack.

Muftak's McQuarrie concepts idea is excellent as well.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: speedermike on February 27, 2005, 10:34 PM
Now, I'm not a TPM basher at all.  I find the film totally flawed, but very, very original and visionary.  That siad, if Jar-Jar had been replaced with Cap'n Tarpels through the whole movie, I think it would have been great.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on February 28, 2005, 12:17 AM
Now, I'm not a TPM basher at all.  I find the film totally flawed, but very, very original and visionary.  That siad, if Jar-Jar had been replaced with Cap'n Tarpels through the whole movie, I think it would have been great.

I'd agree with that entirely.  The Gungans didn't bother me for the most part (aside from Jar Jar and Boss Nass) and I enjoyed the battle scenes (aside from those with Jar Jar) immensely.  Even though I hate Ewoks, it reminded me of the relative primitveness of the battle in ROTJ.  I thought it was a nice analogy with both groups fighting against superior technology. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on March 8, 2005, 11:53 AM
http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=90120

Rebelscum reports $19.99 apiece at TRU.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on March 26, 2005, 12:16 AM
Pre-order yours now at EE!

SW Episode III Evolution Wave 1 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85553A):
Star Wars 3 3/4-inch Action Figures Evolution wave 1 case includes 4x individually packaged sets of Anakin to Darth Vader (Pack 1) featuring Anakin Skywalker (Episode II), Anakin Skywalker (Episode III), and Darth Vader (Vintage) (subject to change).


SW Episode III Evolution Wave 2 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85553B):
Star Wars 3 3/4-inch Action Figures Evolution wave 2 case includes 4x individually packaged sets of figures: 2x Anakin to Darth Vader (Pack 1) featuring Anakin Skywalker (Episode II), Anakin Skywalker (Episode III), and Darth Vader (Vintage); 2x Clone Trooper to Sandtrooper (Pack 2) featuring Clone Trooper (Episode II), Clone Trooper (Episode III) and Sandtrooper (subject to change).


I guess they are as good as confirmed now...  8)

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on March 26, 2005, 12:56 AM
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2x Clone Trooper to Sandtrooper (Pack 2) featuring Clone Trooper (Episode II), Clone Trooper (Episode III) and Sandtrooper (subject to change).

This could be one of the single most popular items in the modern line.

Wonder if "Sandtrooper" is a misprint for Stormtrooper though?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on March 26, 2005, 12:59 AM
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2x Clone Trooper to Sandtrooper (Pack 2) featuring Clone Trooper (Episode II), Clone Trooper (Episode III) and Sandtrooper (subject to change).

This could be one of the single most popular items in the modern line.

Wonder if "Sandtrooper" is a misprint for Stormtrooper though?

I thought that too, but maybe they are talking Ep3 clones with the pauldrons:
Ep2 SA Clone Trooper
Ep3 Clone Commander / ARC
Ep4 Sandtrooper

Maybe?

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on March 26, 2005, 01:08 AM
Either way, I want to get my hands on it bad.

But since there aren't supposed to be hordes of commanders or ARCs, logically it should be the plain E3 clone -- otherwise the proportions are wrong if you buy several sets.

I'll probably bring the wrath of the collecting gurus upon myself by saying this ;), but I hope the Sandtrooper is a repack from the POTJ/POTC version. IMHO that's an all-around great figure. Plus I already have two, so this way the new ones would match. At any rate, I hope he comes with white, black, or orange pauldron instead of a repeat of gray.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on March 26, 2005, 05:07 AM
Hopefully they're not repacks of any kind.  I'm looking forward to them.  And what a way to lead out, too. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on March 26, 2005, 05:13 AM
At that price they'll catch hell if they did repacks, but really, there are perfect SA versions of each figure already (assuming the #50-odd ROTS Clone does the trick) so what new versions of standard infantry do we need?

It almost makes me hope it is indeed pauldron guys. I'd go for that.  :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on March 27, 2005, 01:05 AM
If they're SA versions, one can at least look at it and say, "Well at least it isn't $10+ per figure like the EE packs".  However, beyond price itself, the simple fact it's a Target exclusive implies rarity. 

I somehow picture the Vader warming pegs and the Army Builder being an incredible bitch to find for anyone, much less something we can army build with.

At the current price it's barely palletable at $8+ a figure (I think that's about what they'd run).  Better than the EE Clone sets but not by much...  And not gonna be as easy to get a set either, if this plays out like nearly every other Target exclusive to-date.

Oh, but of course someone at some site will post how easy they were to find and thaty they're "on clearance", and that "if you don't go often then you didn't try hard enough because I saw a ton", and other such nonsense.

As I recall, more than a couple sites said that the Y-Wing and Skiff were both very easy to get and that everyone had a "fair chance" to get one "If they looked"...  That tune seemed to change some over time, but I recall many people gloating how those were flowing like water at Target stores. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on March 27, 2005, 01:30 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, these aren't a Target exclusive. ???
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on March 27, 2005, 01:47 AM
I'm losing track between the evolutions set, and the rumored Storm/Clonetrooper 2-pack too.  ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 27, 2005, 10:05 AM
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Oh, but of course someone at some site will post how easy they were to find and thaty they're "on clearance", and that "if you don't go often then you didn't try hard enough because I saw a ton", and other such nonsense.

This has always irritated me to no end when certain individuals talk about nothing being hard to find if you just look.  You know, we can't all be independently wealthy people who have the time and money to go to 15 retailers twice a day every day, and for some other sites to imply that if we can't find something at retail, it's our fault is ridiculous. 

There also seems to be a prevailing attitude of "If I found it, it wasn't hard to find, so stop bitching" going on with some of the other sites as well, but the moment that they can't find something, it's automatically the hardest item to find since the Holy Grail and they'll make public appeals for someone to help them out with one.  The thing that makes this worse is that when they're telling everyone else how easy something was for them to find, they never make the first offer to pick one up for someone at cost, but they expect their readers to favor them just because they happen to work on a popular website.

I won't name names, but a few months back, someone wrote into a site and asked if it was possible that Hasbro might do another Unleashed reissue wave of some of the more difficult to find figures, such as Boba Fett, Yoda, or Darth Maul.  This was (I thought) a perfectly legitimate question, but the person made it sound as if it were the dumbest question ever asked and basically said that these figures were out in abundance and neither difficult nor cost-prohibitive to purchase, so such a request was unwarranted. 

End derail...

Back to the three packs though, I have a feeling that this is going to be endless rehashes.  We'll probably get Secret Ceremony Anakin, Mustafar Anakin, and VOTC Vader in the first three pack and when they eventually do an Obi-Wan three pack, they'll reissue the Naboo Obi-Wan from TPM, one of the two Obi-Wans from ROTS, and then VOTC Obi-Wan.

Even if it is rehashes, the Clone three pack could stand to be a big seller.  If they go the straight rehash, they could do a SA CW Clone, a SA ROTS Clone, and a VOTC Stormtrooper, and I would be thrilled.  They could even do the paint variants on the Clones and I wouldn't complain.  I just really hope that this doesn't turn into Saga Clone (the one that was red originally), ROTS #6 Clone, and POTF2 CT Stormtrooper.


Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on March 29, 2005, 09:50 AM
How about one more Evolutions set:

Sith Dudes:
Darth Maul (Ep1)
Darth Tyranus (Ep2)
Darth Sidious (Ep3)

No pictures yet, but it should be headed your way sometime in August...

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 10:06 AM
hmmm, I wonder what figures they include in that though.

I like the troopers better...  That Sith one could blow if it's really lame repacks.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on March 29, 2005, 03:10 PM
How about

Senator or Chancellor Palpatine
Holo Sidious (repack from EpI line perhaps?)
ROTJ Palpatine
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on March 29, 2005, 03:19 PM
How about

Senator or Chancellor Palpatine
Holo Sidious (repack from EpI line perhaps?)
ROTJ Palpatine

Yeah, see a Ep1 Palpy / Ep2 Palpy / Ep3 Sidious would have made a lot more sense then the Maul - Dooku - Sidious pack they are doing...

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on March 29, 2005, 07:19 PM
Whoops--I missed the part of your post indicating these were actually coming. I thought it was just spec.

I already have at least two Mauls, and soon the ROTS Dooku. Not worth getting the 3-pack just for Sid, unless he's something special like the aforementioned Holo version.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on March 29, 2005, 07:43 PM
For Palpatine, I'd do this:

EPISODE I Senator Palpatine
REVENGE OF THE SITH Emporer Palpatine #30 something
SAGA Emporer Palpatine
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on April 1, 2005, 04:14 PM
Ohhh, I just had a kick ass trooper idea:

McQuarrie Concept Trooper
EU Space Trooper
EU Dark Trooper


How's that for a killer set?

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 1, 2005, 04:19 PM
Oh, I can guarantee you I'd be buying that set, especially since I still don't own any of those!

 8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2005, 05:23 PM
Ohhh, I just had a kick ass trooper idea:

McQuarrie Concept Trooper
EU Space Trooper
EU Dark Trooper


How's that for a killer set?



Good God, sell me a dozen of those!!!!!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 2, 2005, 10:39 PM
That would kick ass. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 8, 2005, 11:25 AM
Australia Toy Fair 2005 is this week and the guys at MouseDroid have got a few great pictures:

Head on over and take a look!

AUSTRALIAN TOY FAIR 2005
 (http://mousedroid.com/feature/toyfair2005/toyfair2005-hasbro.htm)

I noticed this picture of the Evolution Set 1 Anakin to Darth Vader!

(http://mousedroid.com/feature/toyfair2005/image/hasbro21.jpg)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on April 8, 2005, 11:42 AM
No Clone - Stormie, but judging by the pic of Vader I can only imagine the coolness that could be an E2 & 3 Clone, and then a Stormie. 

That Anakin looks very figure-licious.

EDIT:

BTW, at the same time, it takes balls the size of church bells to EVER re-release that Geonosis Arena Mace.  I mean, whatever guy at Hasbro said "Let's put this guy back into circulation!" must walk like John Wayne with the sack he's lugging around. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 8, 2005, 11:47 AM
Yeah, from what we can see there, the Anakin to Vader "Evolutions" doesn't look too bad at all.  I'm with you Jesse...could you imagine if they did a SA AOTC Clone, SA ROTS Clone, and the VOTC Stormtrooper?  Wow, yeah, that would be easy to find ::).  Still, I'd have to have some of those.  I hope this assortment ends up being as cool as it could be.  I know when TPM first came out, when I was first starting collecting, I wanted to pick up the characters that made it through to the OT (Anakin, Obi-Wan, 3po/R2, Yoda, etc.) so that I could do something like this down the road and "line them up" together.  I guess Hasbro is doing that for us ;).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 8, 2005, 11:54 AM
If that picture is true and this evolution pack gives us a really nice, nuetrally posed SA Ep2 Anakin and SA Ep3 Anakin?   :o

I'd be very happy with that.   ;D

AND, if that's the case with Anakin, then I say bring on a SA 3-pack of Obi-Wan with SA versions of Ep1, Ep2, and Ep3 Obi-Wan too!

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on April 8, 2005, 12:10 PM
Is that Obi-Wan in clone armor?  Looks like it, those Anakin also LOOK nice, but we'll see what the execution is like
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 8, 2005, 01:00 PM
The Anakin to Vader looks very promising.   I guess that AOTC version represents him at the battle of Geonosis.  Maybe it will have  a pillar with it?  He has the chain at least. 

The armored Kenobi looks kind of bad actually.  But I will still get the set for him and CW Anakin. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: speedermike on April 8, 2005, 01:02 PM
Yeah, that evolutions set looks nice.  I think that is a neutral/SA  E2 version of Anikin.  Looks like he comes with a gold hand, and a chian(?) to ride the Reek with.

Also, that clone armor Obi-Wan is the crappiest version of a highly desired figure since R5-D4 shot a missle!  It's just terrible!!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on April 8, 2005, 01:35 PM
Hasbro realized too late that they dropped the ball with Obi Wan in clone armor when they did the 2nd wave of CW animated figures.

Now they are trying redeem themselves with minimal tooling investment - the result - horse ****.

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 10, 2005, 04:35 PM
I got another tidbit of info from a source today saying that the Second pack will be:

Ep2 Clone Trooper
Ep3 ARC Trooper
Ep4 Sandtrooper

I don't know if it's true or not, but we should know soon since pictures of the first Anakin to Vader aset have popped up, I'm sure these will be next.

Jeff

ps.
I cut out a bunch of posts from this thread (Clone Obi-Wan/Yavin 4 Anakin head discussion) and moved them over to the Battle Packs (5 figure sets) (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=7113.30) thread so they'd live with the rest of the discussion on this set...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on April 10, 2005, 04:47 PM
I got another tidbit of info from a source today saying that the Second pack will be:

Ep2 Clone Trooper
Ep3 ARC Trooper
Ep4 Sandtrooper


That Ep3 ARC Trooper makes me think that it's the Clone Commander.  The appearance of that figure is so much like the ARC Trooper that I made that connection almost instantly.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 11, 2005, 04:54 PM
^ You're probably right Nicklab, although I do wish it was the "classic" Clone Wars ARC, since I prefer that style.

I also hope the sandtrooper comes with variant white, black, gray, and orange shoulder boards. On the other hand it will probably be tough enough to find one of any color, let alone all four.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 12, 2005, 03:10 PM
Looking through EE's listings for the "Evolutions" assortment headed our way later this summer.  According  to what I'm reading, they are selling the "individual" packs (with 3 figures) for around $27.  Granted, I'm sure that's higher than retail, but does that mean these are going to be going for around $20 or more?  I was hoping more in the $15 range. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 12, 2005, 03:19 PM
I think in this era, a 3-pack for $20 sounds about right.  That's about what the TRU Cinema Scenes went for, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's what these go for too...

Jeff

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 12, 2005, 03:26 PM
Yeah, that's true Jeff, and from what we've (sort of) seen, hopefully these Evolutions packs will surpass those council sets in quality.  Those pics from the Australian Toy Fair made it look as if the Anakin(s) were new, neutral, articulated sculpts.  If that is indeed the case, then $20 is probably a pretty fair price.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 12, 2005, 03:53 PM
The thing that sucks is I could see them doing a case assortment like this -

4 boxes per case -

3 Anakin
1 Stormtrooper

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 12, 2005, 03:56 PM
According to what EE is listing, the first case consists of 4x Anakin to Vader, and the 2nd case consists of 2x Anakin to Vader, and 2x Clone to Sandtrooper.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on April 12, 2005, 04:07 PM
Really, is there any potential for this line?

What else can they do?

3PO (who cares)
Luke (baby to toddler to baby)
Jabba (slim to fat to ??)
Sidious (senator to chancellor to all out crazy)





Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 12, 2005, 04:35 PM
According to what EE is listing, the first case consists of 4x Anakin to Vader, and the 2nd case consists of 2x Anakin to Vader, and 2x Clone to Sandtrooper.

*repeatedly slams forehead on keyboard*

Hasbro, repeat after me:

"Solid cases of troop builders. Solid cases of troop builders. Solid cases of troop builders." ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 12, 2005, 04:52 PM
Whatever potential it has, they are killing it with their assortment numbers.

Over the years I have become more and more conservative in my Hasbro bashing... but THOSE FREAKING IDIOTS!!!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 12, 2005, 05:57 PM
Oh, come now, we all knew that Hasbro would manage to screw up the case assortments on everything this year, and let's not forget that regardless of what happens, anything that includes a newly sculpted Clone/Stormtrooper is never in the first assortment, and is often at the tail end of the line.

I was fully expecting it to be 4 Anakin/Vaders in a case, which would ship to retail en masse.  Then they would do another case with 3 Anakin/Vaders and 1 Clone/Stormtrooper pack, and then the line would be cancelled due to the glut of the Anakin/Vaders and Hasbro would claim that "fans weren't interested in the concept."

Once again, Hasbro takes a wonderful concept and manages to screw up the execution.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: speedermike on April 12, 2005, 06:30 PM
 "Really, is there any potential for this line?"

Well, I think Obi-Wan could be done.  Luke could be made, "Farmboy to Jedi Knight."
 Palpatine could be done, so could Padme.  It's not endless, but it certainly could continue.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Stim on April 12, 2005, 11:04 PM
Weird thing is, Amazon.com has both sets coming out on FRIDAY, April 15th...as well as the new Unleashed set -- Vader, Sidious vs. Yoda, and that Sith Chick.  And...all with FREE SHIPPING right now.  Weird...they'll probably change the date this week but I've got them pre-ordered just to be safe.   Oh, and they're 19.99 each on amazon...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 13, 2005, 08:21 AM
Kenobi - Would be kind of tough in that I would want Ep1, Ep2, Ep3, Ep4.  I guess they could take out one of the Prequel versions though. 

They could do various stormtrooper/clonetrooper combos.  Hell ROTS alone could be multiple packs of goodness. 

Guess they could do the following and not that I want them all. 

Young Beru/Old Beru
Young Owen/Uncle Owen/Cliegg Lars
Padme - Ep1 - Ep3 of various outfits (would be nice)
Luke - All sorts there
R2-D2 - Could just do an astromech 3 pack? 
C-3PO - Could be all C-3PO or droid 3 packs. 

Eh, it's endless what they COULD do. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 13, 2005, 12:11 PM
Frankly, I would like to see underused characters or different versions of popular ones rather than things we've seen thousands of times before.

Things like

Young Owen, Cliegg, Old Owen
Ep1 Shmi, Ep2 Beru, ANH Beru
Senator Palpy, Holo Sid, regular Sid
any number of combinations of Padme outfits
Ep2 Clone, SA ARC Trooper, Republic Commando
Ep1 security (red) battledroid, Ep1 pilot (blue) battledroid, Super Battledroid
Or even Ep1 3PO, Ep2 3PO, gold 3PO. Skeletal 3PO is underappreciated IMHO.

Do we really need a Luke Evolutions pack? He's already been released multiple times in every costume. Same for Han, Obi-Wan, etc. ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 13, 2005, 12:17 PM
Han -

VOTC Stormtrooper Han, Pre Carbon Han (no jacket), Endor Han

Luke -

VOTC Stormtrooper Luke, Snowspeeder Luke, Endor Luke

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 13, 2005, 12:28 PM
Well, I thought of an Obi-Wan set that could be done:

POTJ Jedi Training Obi OR Cold Weather Obi, take your pick
Clone Wars Obi in Clone Armor (a GOOD version this time)
OTC Ghost Obi-Wan.

Two would be repacks and one would be a simple kitbash (any mulleted Obi-Wan head on a clone body, with soft goods cloak.) Minimal effort required, yet really cool set. It's so simple and logical.

However, we'll probably get something like

Ep1 Jedi Duel Obi-Wan
Ep2 Coruscant Chase Obi-Wan
ANH Alec from Vader duel.  ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 13, 2005, 12:35 PM
Or

Ep2 white clone, green clone, blue clone
Ep2 white clone, red clone, gold clone
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 13, 2005, 12:38 PM
Since people tell me I never say anything positive, I just thought I'd throw my hat into the ring on what I would like to see should the Evolutions assortment continue past the first two packs (and we all know it won't, but still).  This is based on the assumption that each figure will be a brand new, VOTC-esque sculpt with no action features.

-Luke Skywalker: Stormtrooper Disguise (ANH), Bespin Duel (TESB), Endor (ROTJ)

-Palpatine: Sidious Hologram (TPM), Senate Duel (ROTS), Throne Room Duel (ROTJ)

-Threepio: No Coverings (TPM), Moisture Farm (AOTC), Full Coverings with Removable Limbs (TESB)

Other than that, I can't think of anyone who has actually "evolved" over the course of the films, appearance-wise, to justify a three pack based on the concept itself.  You could so several with just different outfits (which granted, the Luke is), but at the same time, like Valin said, do we really need/want the thousandth version of Han/Luke/Obi-Wan/Leia/Chewbacca/R2?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 13, 2005, 12:39 PM
Good ideas there Valin.

Let me get my brain churning here.......


Princess Leia

ANH Death Star Prisoner, ESB Medical Freighter, ROTJ Endor Battle


 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on April 13, 2005, 02:14 PM
I can't justify spending $20 for 3 figures...maybe the troopers.

Maybe if the packaging is cool...I'm a sucker for packaging (case in point - the DVD packs, the price didn't hurt either  8)).


Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on April 13, 2005, 03:04 PM
For the twenty dollar asking price of the Evo line, I certainly hope that they are in fact SA versions of the figures. My concern is that Hasbro just won’t have the bandwidth to put out tons of VOTC-style figures at a rate to keep this line fresh. Not while they are also doing something close to VOTC in the Collection 2 portion of the basic line.

I can see them starting off with a bang and slowly regressing the line into repack boxes of existing figures… which would be Screen Scenes Redux.

Pessimistic forecasting aside, what they are sitting on is an excellent opportunity to get “final” SA versions of characters out to market that wouldn’t perform well in the basic line on their own. By putting a winner figure (like Darth Vader) in the box with two connected but older versions of characters we could get some much needed resculpts.

It just doesn’t work for long unless they expand the definition of the set beyond single character progressions. I’d like to see them also work various groups into the line, like Jedi Masters/Padawans or Sith, things like that, that show the evolution of relationships as well. That way, they could offer up Qui-Gon figure and Darth Maul figures.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on April 22, 2005, 01:06 PM
Jeff just called me, these I guess are AMAZING

Super Articulated galore! "Even Jesse James was happy"

I guess they include Super Articulated Maul, Clone Troopers, a New Sandtrooper, Anakin Episode II and III, Dooku, Emperor

Jeff was absolutely GUSHING
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 22, 2005, 02:01 PM
That's great news Scott, I hope they are as amazing as they sound.  Very promising from what you have reported though.  I'm hoping that we get some pics of these, clearer than what RS was able to post earlier.  So were these shown "in person" too, or just during Hasbro's slide show presentation?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on April 22, 2005, 02:08 PM
These figures are impressive.  MOST impressive.  Expect some pics from a number of the various sites soon.  The Q&A was also very informative, even if JediMAC could've let some other people ask a question or two. ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on April 22, 2005, 02:19 PM
Yes they were shown in the kiosj thing I believe
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 22, 2005, 04:54 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3081.JPG

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3072.JPG

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3074.JPG

Freaking perfection... and yeah that's a VOTC Stormtrooper sculpt on the Sandtrooper!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 22, 2005, 04:57 PM
Oh!  Oh my!!!

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3052.JPG

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3048.JPG

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3045.JPG

The only one that is a bit iffy is the Dooku... the regular ROTS version might top it.

But these are VOTC quality!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 22, 2005, 04:59 PM
Anakin to Vader...

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3061.JPG

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3069.JPG

http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3063.JPG

Nice pics... but the other two sets seem a bit better.  But at least we are finally getting all aroung good versions of Anakin now!!!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 22, 2005, 05:08 PM
I'm thrilled that these Evolutions packs will contain figures of VOTC quality!

Finally some nice PT product.

Now we DEFINITELY need an Evolutions Padme set!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 22, 2005, 05:17 PM
Yep - I agree.  I think everyone is going to be damn pleased with these.  If they're not, well I don't know what in the hell people want then.

Padme would be such a great choice.  There's several outfits that would be great for her... maybe:

EPI - Senate

EPII - Arena Battle

EPIII - whatever outfit she's in the most (besides the one that's out already)

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: evenflow on April 22, 2005, 05:25 PM
These look awesome. I cannot wait to get them. It would be a cool way to get Luke and Leia as babies and the evolve them  ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 22, 2005, 05:30 PM
I agree totally, these just look awesome.  I can't wait to get a hold of these, and hopefully they ship these so there are plenty to go around.  You know they will be hot sellers.  The Stormie/Clone pack is top notch, and it is great to get some nice, neutral, articulated versions of Anakin...they all look nice.  The Vader looks like they tried to go with all cloth (even on his chest), but maybe I'm wrong.  If it turns out strange, we always have the VOTC (and numerous other) versions to fall back on.  The "Sith" pack looks nice, with Dooku probably being the weakest of the bunch.  Still looks nice though, and I'm satisfied with the ROTS version anyways.  The Palpatine looks pretty cool, and with a cloth robe, and this is the first time in a long time I've been excited about a Maul figure.  All in all, the sets look great, hopefully they will be easy to locate.  I haven't heard, are they a retailer exclusive, or available everywhere?  If they are smart...everywhere.  I really hope this line continues, I'd definitely like to see an Obi-Wan set made so we can get some nice VOTC quality versions of AOTC and ROTS Obi, and a Padme set would be nice too.  Good stuff, thanks for the links to the pics too.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 22, 2005, 05:38 PM
Obi Wan Kenobi... what a great set they could make.  EPI, EP3, EPIV is would I would choose.

Hmmm.... some other ideas.... bangs head on desk.....

Luke is pretty obvious, and they could probably pull something off with Han.  Especially if the for the ANH version they made them both Stormtrooper ones.  Nobody would be able to pass those up... nobody!   :)

 :P



Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on April 22, 2005, 09:55 PM
Dear God, those OWN! I thought they'd suck, but they're GREAT! I'm getting like 5 of the Clone ones, lol.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 22, 2005, 11:26 PM
I can't believe that I'm going to say this, but it would be nice if they would do color/rank variants on the Clone sets (equally packed in a solid case of Clones of course, which would also be sold for retail value at websites). 

Just looking at the individual options, we've got:

Episode II Clone: Blue, Green, Red, Yellow
Episode II CC: Red, Green, Orange, Yellow
Episode IV ST: Orange, Black, White, Grey

If there was some way that Hasbro could do this where a case of six would have two of each set, and it would ship in an assortment all its own, this could be a very cool concept.  As it is though, Hasbro still can't grasp simple case assortment logic ten years in (why a Super Battle Droid is packed at anything more than 1 per case in anything past the first case period is a mystery to me), so this would be asking too much of them.

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 23, 2005, 05:21 PM
That would be wonderful if they'd do something like that.

Yeah, it makes no sense... they seem to produce so many more of the non-army builder figures... then when they decide to product more of an army-builder, it's something people don't like as much... it's a no brainer - the demand for Clones and Stormtroopers is almost endless in the Star Wars collector market.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 24, 2005, 12:12 AM
Jeff just called me, these I guess are AMAZING

Super Articulated galore! "Even Jesse James was happy"

I guess they include Super Articulated Maul, Clone Troopers, a New Sandtrooper, Anakin Episode II and III, Dooku, Emperor

Jeff was absolutely GUSHING

Indeed they are amazing...

Ball joints all over the place and 5 helmets for 3 different clones!

The Sandtrooper is a step above and beyond the vOTC Stormtrooper.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0632.jpg)

Amazing! :)

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: speedermike on April 24, 2005, 07:27 PM
"5 helmets for 3 different clones!" Um...what does that mean?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 24, 2005, 07:41 PM
"5 helmets for 3 different clones!" Um...what does that mean?

I was kinda wondering too!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 24, 2005, 08:50 PM
Yes, those 3 troopers looked fantastic in the display case.  I can not wait for those sets.  Of course it will be hard to find them since Hasbro will probably go conservative on the rations per case. 

It would be interesting to see if they will make color variations. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 24, 2005, 08:58 PM
I'm glad Hasbro went with the gold Ep3 clone instead of red again. Kudos for not taking the easy way out.

And I'm kinda glad the Ep2 clone is gold because I don't have the non-animated version of this color. However ... it's not a white trooper so now I can't army build. Though $19.99 isn't conducive to army building in the first place. Assuming I can ever find more than one. ::)

Undecided on the Anakin and Sith sets. I only need so many Mauls and Vaders, after all.

Luke is pretty obvious, and they could probably pull something off with Han.  Especially if the for the ANH version they made them both Stormtrooper ones.  Nobody would be able to pass those up... nobody!   :)

 :P

I would. ;) But then I'm a contrarian through and through. :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on April 24, 2005, 09:23 PM
"5 helmets for 3 different clones!" Um...what does that mean?
I believe Jeff said there were multiple helmets packed in to the figure box ala the AT-TE Gunner Figure
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 24, 2005, 10:07 PM
"5 helmets for 3 different clones!" Um...what does that mean?
I believe Jeff said there were multiple helmets packed in to the figure box ala the AT-TE Gunner Figure[/size]

Now that would be sweet. Not sure what the variants would be; maybe the Ep3 clone (some of the gold ones have extra markings, probably the commanders).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 25, 2005, 09:31 AM
Is that Obi-Wan in clone armor?

Yeap, its a General Kenobi with snap-on armor. Overall this "Battle Pack" is kinda disapointing looking, though. I've been begging for a General Kenobi, and I've been hoping for the Anakin and Vintress (whatever), but all of these figures, including the rehash Grievous and Yoda... look very POTF-ish.

I'll buy it, unless I get word that a better General Kenobi will be made. Cause I'm a sucker.

Wish they would have replaced the Grievous and Yoda with Durge and an ARC Trooper.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 25, 2005, 09:54 AM
This line really could have a lot of potential, especially if they continue the quality of figures that these initial sets appear to have.  All three that we saw this weekend look pretty great to me, and I intend to pick up all three if I can find them.  Hopefully this won't be a "limited" line, and everyone can find what they are looking for.  There are so many other characters they could touch on in this line, and if they are going to be of this quality, I'd like to see more sets get made.

Obi-Wan Kenobi - TPM/AOTC/ROTS
Han Solo - Stormtrooper/Hoth or Bespin/Endor with Trenchcoat
Luke Skywalker - Stormtrooper/Bespin/Jedi with removable Endor poncho/helmet, etc.
Princess Leia - Ceremonial?/Boussh/Endor w/removable poncho/helmet, etc.
Padme - Take your pick, lots to choose from.  I actually wouldn't mind having another, non screaming head version of the AOTC white outfit.
C-3PO - Maybe not enough versions, but getting an Endor (bendable knees) one would be nice.  A new AOTC version wouldn't be a bad idea either.
R2-D2 - Really doesn't change much, probably not necessary.
Chewie - As much as I like him, probably the same as R2.  Between the ROTS, VOTC, and EB versions, we are fairly set.
Imp. Troopers - Stormtrooper (VOTC)/Snowtrooper/Biker Scout
Clones - So many color/helmet variations, they could do more of these (Kashyyk, blue version, Shocktroopers, etc.)
Rebel Troops - Fleet Trooper/Hoth Snowtrooper/Endor Soldier
Battle Droids - I'm not the biggest fan, but a Battle Droid/Super Battledroid/Destroyer Droid combo makes sense.
Bounty Hunters - Lots of combos, maybe two sets - Jango/Boba/4-LOM/Zuckuss, etc.

More ideas available, but this could be a nice assortment for Hasbro if they keep the quality up.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 25, 2005, 10:31 AM
Battle Droids - I'm not the biggest fan, but a Battle Droid/Super Battledroid/Destroyer Droid combo makes sense.

Particularly if they just do regular figures without the Big Ol' Launcher Cannon Thingies from the ROTS figures. ::) And if the battle droid can actually stand.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 25, 2005, 12:29 PM
"5 helmets for 3 different clones!" Um...what does that mean?

I believe Jeff said there were multiple helmets packed in to the figure box ala the AT-TE Gunner Figure

YES.

You can see them barely in my crappy Hasbro QnA picture:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/Hasbro_Conference/IMG_0615.jpg)

The Ep2 Yellow Clone comes with a regular helmet and a pilot helmet.
The Ep3 Clone Commander comes with a regular helmet and the AT-TE Gunner attachment.
The Sandtrooper just comes with his helmet.

At first, Hasbro was saying that the Sandtrooper WOULD have a removable helmet, but then later in the day they were saying he WOULDN'T have one.    :-\

So, I guess really it's only 4 helmets for the 2 clones if the Sandtrooper is not slated for a removable helmet. 

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 25, 2005, 12:36 PM
The Ep2 Yellow Clone comes with a regular helmet and a pilot helmet.
The Ep3 Clone Commander comes with a regular helmet and the AT-TE Gunner attachment.
The Sandtrooper just comes with his helmet.

At first, Hasbro was saying that the Sandtrooper WOULD have a removable helmet, but then later in the day they were saying he WOULDN'T have one.    :-\

So, I guess really it's only 4 helmets for the 2 clones if the Sandtrooper is not slated for a removable helmet. 

You know what? The four helmet variations for the clones alone makes this set a MUST HAVE. The fact that I can interchange the AOTC clone from either a Clone Commander to a Clone Pilot - ROCKS! I also love the idea of a ROTS Clone Commander (?) with a removeable helmet and the gunner attachment.

I could care less if the Stormtrooper has a removable helmet or not - if you believe EU by the time of ANH they have several different templates for Stormtroopers (not just Jango Fett) which is why some Stormtroopers can't aim for ****.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 25, 2005, 02:38 PM
It looks like SirSteve's Guide has pics of a packaged sample of the Anakin to Vader Evolutions set.  You can view them HERE (http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=11623&cat=3832&page=3), and scroll through the pics to see a few more shots.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 25, 2005, 02:51 PM
It looks like SirSteve's Guide has pics of a packaged sample of the Anakin to Vader Evolutions set.  You can view them HERE (http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=11623&cat=3832&page=3), and scroll through the pics to see a few more shots.

Hey!

We got pictures HERE at JD (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro) too ya know!  ;)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/DSC00847.jpg)

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 25, 2005, 02:59 PM
Oops...my bad Jeff, sorry.  I have been trying to catch up on all the pics today, and didn't get that far yet or see it mentioned here in the forums.  My fault....by all means, check out that pic here at JD! :)  On topic...really looking forward to this line, like I said earlier, a lot of potential here if they do it right.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: evenflow on April 25, 2005, 03:01 PM
I dont know how i feel about the packaging, but i love the line. I hope they keep it going.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on April 25, 2005, 03:06 PM
I loved these the moment Jeff called to gloat about them :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 25, 2005, 03:12 PM
I dont know how i feel about the packaging, but i love the line. I hope they keep it going.

The packaging is VERY cool in person.  The figures are actually in a tray that is designed to slide out without opening it.  You can see the notch to grab the figures out on the far right of the JD picture.  That way, you can get a good look at them without opening it.

Each package has a large head shot on the left of the package.  Very cool and a bit different from what we are used to seeing.

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 25, 2005, 03:19 PM
Maybe this wasn't mentioned there, or maybe this is a dumb question....but are these expected to be a "wide" release?  Not limited to a certain retailer or anything, right?  I figured they were, but I was just curious.  With all the different lines out there right now for Star Wars, it might be tough to find the shelf/peg space.  Although I'd gladly see these there over anything else :).  Again, hopefully they won't be tough to find.  They all appear to be the bee's knees.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 25, 2005, 03:25 PM
Maybe this wasn't mentioned there, or maybe this is a dumb question....but are these expected to be a "wide" release?  Not limited to a certain retailer or anything, right? 

Right now, they are supposed to be everywhere, not exclusive, and should have a $20 price tag.

Also, they only have these 3 sets planned so far, but at the QnA they indicated that sales of this line will determine whether or not they go back and do more. 

When we were talking to the Hasbro guys later, they said they had quite a few figures on the list already that they'd like to do if they get the chance to make more - Padme, Obi-Wan, 3PO.  Almost made it seem like if there is a next wave, it'd likely be those three.

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 25, 2005, 03:29 PM
Thanks for the info Jeff.  That sounds good to me.  Like we've been saying, if they continue this type of quality (of these first sets), it could be a tremendous line.  If there was indeed a second wave of Padme, Obi-Wan and 3PO, that would be a great place to start.  Padme's possibilities are nearly unlimited, I'd really like to see some Obi-Wans (AOTC and ROTS) in the style of those Anakins we see in the first series, and 3PO could be a good choice as well.  I wasn't ever overly happy with any of the Saga offerings, with the Deluxe one probably being the best of the bunch, but nothing spectacular.  Personally, I wouldn't see any problems with these selling...but maybe that's just me.  I know I'll be buying all three, and maybe a couple of the Clonetrooper/Sandtrooper ones.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on April 25, 2005, 05:18 PM
With all things clone, my gripe here is the # of these that will be available...  I'm wanting multiple sets of the Clone Evolution set, which is absolutely fantastic.  I got to get a good look at the loose ones at the Hasbro booth with Jeff, and I was just floored by the quality.

The whole series is fantastic looking though...  VOTC quality all the way, detail and articulation galore, and now it's a matter of just making sure that MORE of the Clone sets are available than the others.  I'm loving the other two current sets, but that Clone/Stormie set is the epitome of perfection for figures.  Outstanding, and the pictures only TEASE with the quality these things are...  In person they just really make you wanna knock the case over and take them and run away!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on April 25, 2005, 05:28 PM
Quote
which is why some Stormtroopers can't aim for ****.

LOL.

Seriously though, I think we all know which set is going to sit on the shelf and which one will be HTF....that interchangeable helmet feature kicks major ass - thanks to Jeff for pointing that out!!

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on April 25, 2005, 05:43 PM
For those who will collect multiples of the clone set, I recommend you book your flight early and preorder at the TRU website. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on April 25, 2005, 06:06 PM
These have to be the coolest thing this year.  I already feel like a sucker for buying inferior versions on ROTS Anakin.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 25, 2005, 06:38 PM
*ears perk up* Ooh ... pilot helmet you say?  Now I need two sets.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on April 25, 2005, 07:35 PM
Ok I'm in...I want these things pretty bad.

I like the ROTS Anakin (finally a non-action featured version of a Major character)...

My only concern will be what to do with the EPII Clones and helmets (they will be available for trade)....I'm sure somebody here will want them..

But the concept and execution on these things are both above par, usually Hasbro misses on one of them.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Aaron_D on April 29, 2005, 05:36 AM
After seeing the pictures of these from C3, I've got to say that they look outstanding!  Are there any more of these sets beyond these three in the works right now, or even rumored?  With that kind of detail and articulation, I can only pray this line continues, since these seem to far surpass the regular carded figures, and are much more along the lines of the VOTC figures.

I'd love to see a bunch more of these, like Padme, C-3PO, Leia, Luke, Obi-Wan, etc.  Did anything more come up on them in the Q&A, or is this all we're getting?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 29, 2005, 08:22 AM
Not sure?  I would hope a Kenobi set would be in the works though. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on April 29, 2005, 10:06 AM
I'd love to see a bunch more of these, like Padme, C-3PO, Leia, Luke, Obi-Wan, etc.  Did anything more come up on them in the Q&A, or is this all we're getting?

According to Hasbro, they only have these 3 sets planned so far, but at the C3 QnA they indicated that sales of this line will determine whether or not they go back and do more. 

When we were talking to the Hasbro guys later, they said they had quite a few figures on the list already that they'd like to do if they get the chance to make more - Padme, Obi-Wan, 3PO.  Almost made it seem like if there is a next wave, it'd likely be those three.

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on April 29, 2005, 02:25 PM
Yeah, when I was talking to the Hasbro reps on the floor, they intimated the same thing as well.  I asked them specifically about Obi Wan and Padme and they nodded and went, "Maybe."

 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 29, 2005, 07:48 PM
If they give us a C-3PO and he's got articulation in the knees then I'll be stoked. We also never got a good version of his AOTC incarnation. The EP1 version was plenty good for me, so again, enhanced articulation would be a must.

For Obi-Wan, I hope they go with all PT since we already have VOTC Old Ben. So it would be one from each movie.

For Padme they could do four sets each dedicated to her and STILL not be done.

Set 1:
Return to Naboo Purple Dress (TPM)
Lakeside Retreat Black Dress (AOTC)
Senatorial Robes (with braided hair "buns") (ROTS)

Set 2:
Appearance before the Senate (TPM)
Incognito Travel to Naboo (AOTC)
Nightgown (ROTS)

Set 3:
Handmaiden - at the end, the brown outfit (TPM)
Droid Factory/Arena (AOTC)
Confronting Anakin (ROTS)

Set 4:
Handmaiden - Robes (TPM)
Meeting with the Chancellor (AOTC)
Burial Gown (ROTS)

Whatever they do, I just hope they don't burn a slot for a Padme figure with another ANH Leia to show the "Evolution"
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on April 29, 2005, 08:28 PM
Obi-Wan Kenobi is the perfect character for the Evolution assortment.  I would love to see this kind of lineup for him:

The Phantom Menace w/ softgoods cloak, Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon's lightsabers, commlink & rebreather

Revenge Of The Sith w/ softgoods cloak, Obi-Wan & Anakin's lightsabers

The Empire Strikes Back vision from Hoth.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on April 29, 2005, 09:29 PM
Here's my preferences:

Padme:

Handmaiden TPM (because Hasbro has yet to do this  ::))
Senator AOTC (the first gown she wears in Palpy's office)
Galactic Mom ROTS (either the buns version or the peacock dress)

Obi Wan:

Padawan TPM (SA, soft goods, removable braid)
Knight AOTC (SA, the works)
Master ROTS (SA, the works)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on April 30, 2005, 01:57 AM
I'd dig some Classic sets too...

-Han Solo...  I'd take Hoth, Bespin, and Han Endor in a set...

-Leia...  Easy enough with ANH, Hoth, and Endor...
-Luke...  Again, easy enough with ANH, Hoth, and Endor...  Run with a theme here.  One could replace either (or both) Luke/Han's early figure in with a Stormie version of them too.

-Imperial Troops...  ANH Stormtrooper, Snowtrooper, Scouttrooper...  I'd take that in a heartbeat!

-Rebels...  Rebel Fleet Trooper, Hoth Rebel, Endor Rebel.  I'd take that even quicker. :)

The thing I like about the Evolutions sets is the price.  To me, the $20 works out for 3 great figures in one set.  This is ideal army builder potential, and I hope that main characters are done of course, but it's every army builder's dream that these are pushed for the troops too since it really makes sense.  That Clone set is going to simply rock I do believe.  I've got 3 on pre-order, and will definitely buy many more if I find them easily enough on my hunts.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 30, 2005, 02:25 AM
-Imperial Troops...  ANH Stormtrooper, Snowtrooper, Scouttrooper...  I'd take that in a heartbeat!

-Rebels...  Rebel Fleet Trooper, Hoth Rebel, Endor Rebel.  I'd take that even quicker. :)

Great ideas!

I still wish the clones in the current set were plain white infantry, because one can't very well army build if 1/3 are commanders (AOTC gold clone)....
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on April 30, 2005, 03:07 AM
I'm thinking ARC customs myself with those...  I'll whip up some ARC squads or other Commanders.

The Tat Stormie and E2 Clones are just gonna go into the field then as grunts. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on April 30, 2005, 10:49 AM

-Imperial Troops...  ANH Stormtrooper, Snowtrooper, Scouttrooper...  I'd take that in a heartbeat!

-Rebels...  Rebel Fleet Trooper, Hoth Rebel, Endor Rebel.  I'd take that even quicker. :)


I'm awake now!!!!!!  Yes to all the above.  If they would just sell entire cases of the army builders instead of making them 1 per case (which is my fear, but I have no confirmation)...

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on May 6, 2005, 12:03 PM
So, has anyone been preordering these packs?  I saw that Amazon has them up, first with an expected date of May 1st...but once that day came, it got pushed back to May 15th, and I fully expect them to get pushed back again.  I think EE has them up as well, shipping July/August-ish?  I've considered preordering these, because it just seems like that Clone pack especially will be a bugger to get a hold of.  Anyways, are any of you preordering these, or just waiting to try your luck at retail?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on May 6, 2005, 12:44 PM
I ordered online from BOTH Amazon and EE.Com...

I ordered the CASE of 2x Vader/Anakin and 2x Clones, then from Amazon I ordered 2x Clones.

I might find them at retail, and I might NOT, so I am basically hedging my bets.  Besides, I'd like to end up with several of the Tatooine Stormies eventually.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on May 6, 2005, 03:11 PM
Several...

Several dozen for me, so I put an order into Amazon for 2 Clone sets.  I'm assuming I'll find the Anakin set...  Hoping I will anyway.

And I'm hoping to find the Clone set in abundance.  Hasbro really SHOULD be pumping these things out...  A Clone only case should be available for that matter.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on May 6, 2005, 08:19 PM
Several...


I use the term loosely...if I give it a number then I have to stop once I reach it...but I plan to have more of these Stormies than I have VOTCs and Target Clones.....(Rob, don't read that part)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on May 6, 2005, 09:22 PM
We just added a new poll to the main page, asking which character you'd like to see covered in the "Evolutions" line next.  So head on over there and chime your butts in!  ;)

As always, we'll be forwarding the results along to Hasbro for their review.  So let 'em know what you want.  Keep in mind, that these are pretty much "definitive" super-articulated figures that we're talking about here, ala the VOTC line, but even better...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on May 7, 2005, 12:31 AM
I put my vote in for Obi-Wan. As far as resculpts go, he's at the top of my list for a character that is in dire need of a revamp in every PT incarnation. There's simply not a single definitive Ewan-era Obi-Wan. In fact, I think he is one of the most ****-upon sculptwise in the entire line.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on May 7, 2005, 02:05 AM
I dont' think it's hard to guess who I voted for...  The Rebel Troopers all need done this way in my eyes, and army builders are an ideal format for these 3-packs of "definitive figures" if you ask me.

That said, I didn't see a character on that list I WOULDN'T want done in this Evolutions series.  To me, this is something I hope that Hasbro continues till everything is done this way.

I'd dig another set as well, for classic Imperial troops...

-Imperial Stormtrooper (basic)
-Imperial "Hoth" Storm"Snow"Trooper
-Imperial Scouttrooper

I'd take that evolution assortment in droves.  I can only dream of what the Snowtrooper would look like too, with the softgoods.  That would kick so much ass, I can see it now.

My dream from the list is the Rebel Troopers set though...  A new Endor soldier would suit me fine, the Fleet Trooper I'd of course like to see redone that way, and the Hoth Trooper was an abysmal failure in the Saga line because Hasbro copped out on him so much.  All 3 would be an ultimate army builder assortment to me if they put as much heart into that as the Clone set that is coming up.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on May 9, 2005, 12:00 AM
From the available choices, I voted Padme. The Rebel troopers pack would be second and C-3PO third.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 9, 2005, 12:11 AM
I dont' think it's hard to guess who I voted for...  The Rebel Troopers all need done this way in my eyes, and army builders are an ideal format for these 3-packs of "definitive figures" if you ask me.

That said, I didn't see a character on that list I WOULDN'T want done in this Evolutions series.  To me, this is something I hope that Hasbro continues till everything is done this way.

I'd dig another set as well, for classic Imperial troops...

-Imperial Stormtrooper (basic)
-Imperial "Hoth" Storm"Snow"Trooper
-Imperial Scouttrooper

I'd take that evolution assortment in droves.  I can only dream of what the Snowtrooper would look like too, with the softgoods.  That would kick so much ass, I can see it now.

My dream from the list is the Rebel Troopers set though...  A new Endor soldier would suit me fine, the Fleet Trooper I'd of course like to see redone that way, and the Hoth Trooper was an abysmal failure in the Saga line because Hasbro copped out on him so much.  All 3 would be an ultimate army builder assortment to me if they put as much heart into that as the Clone set that is coming up.

As long as they didn't repackage the 3 repackaged imps from the OTC line (POTF2 CT stormie, Saga Snowtrooper and POTJ Biker scout) which would be the biggest ****-in-the-face from Hasbro since that piss-poor midget Hoth rebel trooper.

However, a repackage of the VOTC Stormie is just fiiiiiiine! ;)

I really hope this idea takes off. I remember having this idea a long time ago, before Episode2 came out (I forget which board) when we were talking about new ideas for the cinema scenes. I thought there'd be something like ANH Han, ESB Han and ROTJ Han. I'm glad to see this idea coming true, as it can really be a wonderful thing as we saw at C3.

Even though I voted for the troopers, I would really like to see an Obi-Wan evolutions assortment. I would also (and this is kind of off topic) really like to see a VOTC-style Qui Gon Jinn.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on May 9, 2005, 12:20 AM
I'm hoping Padme but would also enjoy Obi-Wan and C-3PO


Padme:

Return to Naboo/Qui-Gon Funeral, Picnic or Fireplace and any of the unmade Episode III

Obi-Wan:

Episode I SA, Episode II SA, Episode III SA

All with high quality removable robes and all of the neat gadgets (head gear, clone armor, etc)

C-3PO:

Episode I SA, Episode II SA, Episode III SA

With ******* articulated knees...how long do we have to ask for this before they finally do it????

I'd also love...

Princess Leia

ANH...full length Soft Good robe, Hoth SA and Endor SA

Luke
Stormtrooper Disguise, Snowspeeder Pilot, Endor SA

Han
Stormtrooper Disguise, Carbon Freeze Chamber, Endor SA

The trooper ideas are great as well...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on May 9, 2005, 12:55 AM
I'd be in, and broke as a joke.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on May 12, 2005, 01:36 PM
The new Insider magazine has mention of a third Evolution set tentatively titled "Evolution of the Sith."

It includes Maul, Dooku and the Emperor.  Maul and Dooku look like kit bashed figures but the Emperor looks to be all new.

There's also a great picture of the clone / stormie set.

Pix are present so it must be true!

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on May 12, 2005, 01:42 PM
The new Insider magazine has mention of a third Evolution set tentatively titled "Evolution of the Sith."

It includes Maul, Dooku and the Emperor. Maul and Dooku look like kit bashed figures but the Emperor looks to be all new.

You mean like these:  ;)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0618.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0621.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0619.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/aDSC01013.jpg)
All 3 of the figures are brand new and they kick ass.   :)

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on May 12, 2005, 01:45 PM
Hot dog!  Where did those come from?

With all the talk about the clone set, I must've missed that - thanks for making me feel like an ass!


Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on May 12, 2005, 01:55 PM
I still think that Emperor is kind of funky looking. Hopefully it changes in appearance before its released, or maybe it looks better in person ???
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on May 12, 2005, 02:02 PM
Constipation Palpatine has.

Gatillo
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 12, 2005, 02:17 PM
Yeah, those were a welcome sight at C3. Could it be that we'll finally have an almost SA Darth Maul? Give me a bounty hunters evolution pack with a SA Jango Fett and I'll be dancing on the rooftops. I guess they could do something like:

* SA Aurra Sing  ::)
* SA Jango Fett
* SA Zam Wessel(?)

I actually wouldn't mind a good Zam Wessel figure, to be honest.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Redstar2 on May 14, 2005, 11:53 PM
I recently pre-ordered the Clone Evolution set.

It includes 3 all SA -

1.  AOTC Generic Yellow Clone
2.  ROTS Commander Bly Clone
3.  OTC Sandtrooper

Super sweeeeeet!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 15, 2005, 10:24 PM
Being the fly in the ointment that I am, I just wanted to point out to everyone that, as expected, Amazon/TRU.com has pushed back the release date of the Evolutions Clones again, this time claiming they will be released on June 1st.  They still claim that my order is going to ship tomorrow and that I'll get them later this week, though, so like HTS.com, I don't think the two areas of the site maintenance are communicating so well.   ::)

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on May 17, 2005, 04:23 AM
I just split off all the arguing over who Commander Bly is, or isn't, and made it into it's own thread, and stuck it in the ROTS movie forum section, since none of the (deteriorating) discussion had to do with the Evolutions sets anymore.  So go over there if you want to keep talking (respectfully) about Commander Bly.

Stay here if you want to discuss the Evolutions figures.

Hopefully Michael's right on the TRU.com date there, and they're really due out in just a couple weeks.  Can't wait for these sets.  8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: crazy about Clones on May 17, 2005, 08:30 AM
these sets are gonna be awesome! ;D Espically the Clone Evolution set
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 17, 2005, 10:01 AM
I just split off all the arguing over who Commander Bly is, or isn't, and made it into it's own thread, and stuck it in the ROTS movie forum section, since none of the (deteriorating) discussion had to do with the Evolutions sets anymore.  So go over there if you want to keep talking (respectfully) about Commander Bly.

Stay here if you want to discuss the Evolutions figures.

Hopefully Michael's right on the TRU.com date there, and they're really due out in just a couple weeks.  Can't wait for these sets.  8)

Thanks Matt. That was kind of turning into some sort of pissing match.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on May 17, 2005, 10:42 AM
Looks like Mousedroid (http://www.mousedroid.com/) has some detailed looks at the Evolutions Anakin pack, front, back, figures, etc.  Really looking forward to this assortment showing up in stores.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 17, 2005, 11:50 AM
Yeah, these are looking pretty nice. They're all done on the VOTC level, so These should be worth it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on May 17, 2005, 03:59 PM
Yes, these sets are pretty awesome IMO.  I am not sure if I will get the Sith set or not?  But Anakin and the Trooper set is way to nice to pass up. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on May 17, 2005, 04:45 PM
I'm even more excited now that I see both AOTC and ROTS Anakin figures include interchangeable hands and correct saber hilts. This set really is definitive.

If I could find anything to gripe about, it would be that the AOTC headsculpt is still a tad iffy and I'd have liked a real-hair padawan braid, like the last TPM Obi-Wan had.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on May 17, 2005, 05:10 PM
I am glad they included a cloth cloak in there too, plus a VOTCish ROTS Vader is an added bonus

I still for the life of me cannot figure out why they made the shoulder piece of ROTS Vader like they did...and if you look through the making of stuff, they did the ANH version first, the molds were made and everything, but they went and changed it when the final costume was made.  It smacks of stupidity
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 21, 2005, 12:25 PM
I hope that Palpatine figure can sit on the throne from the final duel cinema scene.

Also, does anyone know if that's a SA Maul?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Omega Squad Commander on May 21, 2005, 04:50 PM
Does anyone know if that's a SA Maul?

Look like a yes to me, enjoy!....

(http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro2/C3ashley%20029.jpg)

(http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/events/celebration_3/hasbro/c3_002%20416.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3119.JPG)

(http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/events/celebration_3/hasbro/c3_002%20443.jpg)

(http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/events/celebration_3/hasbro/c3_005%20243.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3055.JPG)

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Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 25, 2005, 06:51 PM
The new SW insider feature these sets in the toy artical. They specifically mention the clone trooper removable helmets. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: jadesfire on May 25, 2005, 06:56 PM
All I want is a Padme set.  They have enough gowns from each movie to make at least one set.  I plan on getting one of each of these so I hope they are easy to find.  Right now my Walmart has three different SW sections and they are all picked over pretty good but put them all together and it will look like pegwarmer city. 

I did read in the Insider about the two different head's so that will make this particular evolution set (IMO) the hottest one to get. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on May 25, 2005, 10:17 PM
I never wanted a Darth Maul until I saw these.  I just wish they would have given him ball joint elbows. 

I definately want as many Clone sets that will fit on my credit cards.  Dang Credit Limits....
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on May 26, 2005, 12:37 AM
I'm thinking about preordering the sets from Amazon. I really want them, and I fear that I'll never find them if I don't preorder them. Should I?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on May 26, 2005, 08:47 AM
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00079405U/jedidefender-20) now has some pics up accompanying their Anakin to Vader listing.  Looks like the Vader will have a removeable helmet!

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00079405U.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

From the closer up pics of the individual figures, the Anakins both look nice too...and what many of us have been waiting for....VOTC style Anakin.  Now if we can only get an Obi-Wan set as well :).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on May 26, 2005, 08:57 AM
I like the fact that it brings the AOTC chain.  I'm always for extra movie accessories that make dioramas even better.

Can't wait to chain that bad boy up.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on May 26, 2005, 07:03 PM
Man, these get better and better. I was sort of ignoring the Vader as just an added bonus to the SA AOTC and ROTS Anakins, but now he's something special, too. These sets are going to rock.

I hope they're a huge hit at retail. I want Obi and Padme sets more than ever.

Actually, I think a Luke set would be appropriate as well. Tatooine Luke (gasp) Bespin Luke, and Jedi Luke with SA treatment and interchangeable parts like the Anakin set would be boffo.  :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on May 27, 2005, 12:16 AM
I can't wait for these.  Hasbro seems to be going all out with these sets, and like everybody else I really, really want Obi Wan and Padme now.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on May 27, 2005, 01:29 AM
Actually, I think a Luke set would be appropriate as well. Tatooine Luke (gasp) Bespin Luke, and Jedi Luke with SA treatment and interchangeable parts like the Anakin set would be boffo.  :)


Most definitely, with lots of pack-ins too! For Tatooine Luke it could be the poncho, floppy hat, binoculars, long rifle, and stormtrooper belt. For Bespin Luke, a softgoods coat and removable belt/holster so underneath is Dagobah Luke. For Jedi Luke, the cloak, the poncho and belt, Endor helmet, and of course 3 interchangable hands, maybe even a softgoods vest. Add lightsabers and unlit hilts and this would be a great pack. And can't for get the SA treatment as well. Hasbro, get on this now! Chop chop!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on May 27, 2005, 09:03 AM
They might as well throw in a Han Solo set as well.  Just as long as we do not see Cantina Han Solo again. I would not mind seeing Han Stormtrooper, Han Hoth, and Han Carbonite.

I guess if we are to include Luke and Han then Leia can not be to far away. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Vator on May 27, 2005, 10:50 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing a Palpatine set...TPM, AOTC, and ROTS Mace Duel.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on May 27, 2005, 10:58 AM
This Anakin/Anakin/Vader set really looks quite nice from those pics, and I really look forward to seeing this line continue further, especially at this quality.  These are basically VOTC style figures, and getting them in 3 packs isn't such a bad thing either.  I'm in the same boat as the majority of you here, I'd really like to see Obi-Wan and Padme sets, and to see these branch off in to the OT further as well.  Here's some packs I'd like to see (in VOTC style, of course):

Luke Skywalker - Stormtrooper Luke, Snowspeeder Pilot Luke, Jedi/Endor Luke (packed with accessories)

Han Solo - Stormtrooper Han, Bespin or Hoth Han, Endor Han with softgoods trench (again, accessories)

Princess Leia - Ceremonial?, Boussh Disguise, Endor

C-3PO - TPM, AOTC, and an OT version (hopefully with articulated knees)

Imperial Troops - VOTC Stormtrooper, Hoth Snowtrooper, Biker Scout (all superarticulated)

Jedi "Heroes" - Mace Windu, Yoda (just because I'm sure Yoda would be included), Qui Gon Jinn

Lots of other potential sets here, both PT and OT.  If some characters might not stand on their own, we could always go to other "mixed" sets like the upcoming Sith one.  This is a nice way for us to get these VOTC style main characters that we've been waiting for, with the basic line supplementing with alternative outfits and/or background characters.  Hopefully this line will continue.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 27, 2005, 10:59 AM
Well, it seems like ideas is where this thread is heading, so here's mine. I've been thinking about an idea like this since the cinema scenes were out. Obviously, all these would be super articulated...

Han Solo Evolution Set
* Han in Stormtrooper disguise (This could easily be the VOTC Stormie with Han head and removeable helmet)
* Bespin Han (with respirator and blaster)
* Endor Han (with removeable soft-goods trenchcoat, blaster and explosive charges)

Luke Skywalker Evolution Set
* Luke in Stormtrooper disguise (This mold would need to be altered slightly to make Luke a little shorter)
* Luke in Bespin fatigues (with blaster, lightsaber, attachable lightsaber hilt, removeable hand)
* Luke Jedi (Final duel version with lightsaber, attachable lightsaber hilt, manacles)

Princess Leia Organa Evolution Set
* Leia in white gown (with either softgoods or removeable hood, sporting blaster, manacles and stormtrooper blaster rifle)
* Leia in Hoth gear (with respirator, goggles and welding torch?)
* Leia in General's uniform (with blaster pistol, softgoods poncho and removeable helmet)

Stormtrooper Evolution Set
* VOTC Stormtrooper (with ball-joint hips, blaster rifle and larger rifle)
* Snowtrooper (with softgoods "skirt" piece, softgoods face guard, and blaster rifle)
* Scout Trooper (with blaster pistol)

Obi-Wan Kenobi Evolution Set
* Obi-Wan Kenobi Padawan (TPM version with soft goods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt, respirator, and commlink)
* Obi-Wan Kenobi Jedi Knight (AOTC version with soft goods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt and pilot headset)
* Obi-Wan Kenobi Jedi Master (ROTS version with soft goods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt)

Jedi Evolution Set
* Qui-Gon Jin (with removeable soft-goods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt, respirator, commlink and softgoods poncho)
* Mace Windu (with open eyes, shut mouth, softgoods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt)
* "Ben" Kenobi (with softgoods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt, training remote and blast shield helmet)

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander JediSearch on May 27, 2005, 11:10 AM

Jedi Evolution Set
* Qui-Gon Jin (with removeable soft-goods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt, respirator, commlink and softgoods poncho)
* Mace Windu (with open eyes, shut mouth, softgoods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt)
* "Ben" Kenobi (with softgoods robe and skirt piece, lightsaber and attachable lightsaber hilt, training remote and blast shield helmet)


Instead of another Obi-wan, how about a Yoda, Plo Koon or Ki Adi Mundi? 
The more I think about it...  We need a super articulated Yoda!   ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 27, 2005, 11:52 AM
Yeah, I thought another Obi-Wan would be kinda weak too, but I couldn't think of someone to fill that spot while keeping the "evolution" thing going. I guess Yoda would be pretty sweet in that set, as long as he doesn't end up like that bulky-looking VOTC Yoda.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on May 27, 2005, 12:01 PM
The only thing about Yoda, is they would need to go crazy on accessories with him to make it worthwhile.  I personally love the VOTC Yoda... and the OTC on too.

I want to see more Stormtrooper sets -

Set # 1

- SA AOTC Clone Sniper
- SA ROTS BARC Trooper
- SA ROTS Scout Trooper

Set # 2

- SA AOTC Clone Pilot
- SA ROTS Cone Pilot (removable helmet)
- SA TIE Fighter Pilot

Set # 3

- SA ARC Trooper
- SA ROTS Mygeeto Clone
- SA ESB Snowtrooper

Set # 4

- SA AOTC Clone w/ removable helmet
- SA ROTS Commander Neo
- VOTC Stormtrooper

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gregorbian on May 27, 2005, 01:23 PM
The only thing about Yoda, is they would need to go crazy on accessories with him to make it worthwhile.  I personally love the VOTC Yoda... and the OTC on too.

I want to see more Stormtrooper sets -

Set # 1

- SA AOTC Clone Sniper
- SA ROTS BARC Trooper
- SA ROTS Scout Trooper

Set # 2

- SA AOTC Clone Pilot
- SA ROTS Cone Pilot (removable helmet)
- SA TIE Fighter Pilot

Set # 3

- SA ARC Trooper
- SA ROTS Mygeeto Clone
- SA ESB Snowtrooper

Set # 4

- SA AOTC Clone w/ removable helmet
- SA ROTS Commander Neo
- VOTC Stormtrooper

 :P

Beauty!  I would buy as many of each set as I could afford ... and then get 2 more of each! :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on May 27, 2005, 01:24 PM
Posted this before but here it is again:


Padme:

Return to Naboo/Qui-Gon Funeral, Picnic or Fireplace and any of the unmade Episode III

Obi-Wan:

Episode I SA, Episode II SA, Episode III SA

All with high quality removable robes and all of the neat gadgets (head gear, clone armor, etc)

C-3PO:

Episode I SA, Episode II SA, Episode III SA

With ******* articulated knees...how long do we have to ask for this before they finally do it????

I'd also love...

Princess Leia

ANH...full length Soft Good robe, Hoth SA and Endor SA

Luke
Stormtrooper Disguise, Snowspeeder Pilot, Endor SA

Han
Stormtrooper Disguise, Carbon Freeze Chamber, Endor SA

The trooper ideas are great as well...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander JediSearch on May 27, 2005, 01:50 PM
Beauty!  I would buy as many of each set as I could afford ... and then get 2 more of each! :P

Somehow, I knew you'd say that...   ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 27, 2005, 02:23 PM
You know, I was worried that we might have problems finding the Trooper set because I was afraid the Anakin set might sit after a while, but after seeing the Vader with removable helmet, I think there's no need to worry about that.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on May 27, 2005, 09:08 PM
I'm thinking an Evolution set might be the best place for Hasbro to slip in a Funeral Padme. 

Handmaiden Padme - Arena Padme - Funeral Padme 

???
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: jadesfire on May 27, 2005, 10:01 PM

Padme:

Return to Naboo/Qui-Gon Funeral, Picnic or Fireplace and any of the unmade Episode III


I'd go with with picnic dress and her dark green velvet gown from E3.  I agree with the purple gown from EP1. 
If only Hasbro would read this thread!!  There are so many good suggestions, all of which (IMHO) would do extremely well if marketed correctly.    I'm surprised no one mentioned the obvious choice and sure fire winner:  Jar Jar :-X  ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on May 27, 2005, 10:54 PM
Am I the only one thinking they could pull off a Chewbacca evolution set?

It could have and Episode 3/4 version (with head hair combed straight back, lighter color), Episode 5 version (with goggles, head hair kind of failling in face), and an Episode 6 version (VOTC Chewie). I'm not sure about the ESB version, but I think they could make it work.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on May 27, 2005, 11:46 PM
I don't know if Chewie would work, but I'm game for anything.  And I'd be happy with any incarnation of Padme at this point, so long as it's not something we already have.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on May 28, 2005, 10:46 AM
There are definitely some good options for the Evolutions line.  Here are some I've thought of...

Obi-Wan Kenobi
-The Phantom Menace w/ SA, softgoods, rebreather, Obi-Wan's lightsaber, Qui-Gon's lightsaber & CommLink
-Revenge Of The Sith w/ SA, softgoods, lightsaber
-The Empire Strikes Back - Hoth Vision

Luke Skywalker
-A New Hope SA w/ lightsaber, Stormtrooper utility belt, grappling hook, Stormtrooper blaster
-The Empire Strikes Back in Snowspeeder Pilot gear, SA w/ removable helmet, blaster, holster, grappling line, lightsaber & mine
-Return Of The Jedi SA Throne Room duel w/ binders & lightsaber

Han Solo
-A New Hope SA w/ regular blaster & holster, Stormtrooper blaster & holster and medal
-The Empire Strikes Back SA, Carbon Freeze Chamber Han w/ Carbonite block, binders, SG jacket
-Return Of The Jedi - SA Endor battle Han w/ SG trenchcoat, mines

Jedi Masters
-The Phantom Menace Qui-Gon Jinn w/ SA, sg, lightsaber, commlink, holoprojector
-A New Hope Obi-Wan Kenobi w/ SA, sg, lightsaber & training remote
-The Empire Strikes Back Yoda w/ SA, sg, backpack, pot, gimer stick, light

The Fetts
-Attack Of The Clones Jango Fett w/ SA, removable helmet, blaster pistols, both rocketpacks
-Attack Of The Clones Mess Hall Clone Trooper in red fatigues
-Return Of The Jedi Boba Fett w/ SA, sg, rifle

Bounty Hunters
-Zam Wessel w/ SA, sg, two different heads, blaster pistols, rifle
-Greedo w/ SA, blaster pistol
-Zuckuss w/ SA, sg, blaster rifle

Astro Droids
-R2-D2 w/ various tool arms, extendable third leg
-R4-P17 (ROTS) w/ repair tools, removable dome
-R5-D4 w/ extendable third leg, motivator
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Omega Squad Commander on May 28, 2005, 03:02 PM
Yeah! and....

Stormtrooper (ANH), Stormtrooper (ESB), Stormtrooper (ROTJ)

Darth Vader (ANH), Darth Vader (ESB), Darth Vader (ROTJ)

Boba Fett (ANH), Boba Fett (ESB), Boba Fett (ROTJ)

R2-D2(ANH), R2-D2(ESB), R2-D2(ROTJ)

C-3PO(ANH), C-3PO(ESB), C-3PO(ROTJ)

Chewbacca(ANH), Chewbacca(ESB), Chewbacca(ROTJ)

Did I miss someone?

C'mon guys, we are talking about Hasbro. ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on May 28, 2005, 07:28 PM
Well put. ;)

The Fetts
-Attack Of The Clones Jango Fett w/ SA, removable helmet, blaster pistols, both rocketpacks
-Attack Of The Clones Mess Hall Clone Trooper in red fatigues
-Return Of The Jedi Boba Fett w/ SA, sg, rifle

Bounty Hunters
-Zam Wessel w/ SA, sg, two different heads, blaster pistols, rifle
-Greedo w/ SA, blaster pistol
-Zuckuss w/ SA, sg, blaster rifle

Astro Droids
-R2-D2 w/ various tool arms, extendable third leg
-R4-P17 (ROTS) w/ repair tools, removable dome
-R5-D4 w/ extendable third leg, motivator

Good suggestions, Nicklab. I really like your Fett idea because I don't have a Jango, the last Boba I have is POTF2, and it's probably our only chance to get the Mess Hall clone trooper.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Aaron_D on May 29, 2005, 05:13 AM
Padme is an absolute no-brainer for this line, considering how neglected her character has been over the past 6 years by Hasbro.  I'm sure she's got at least 5 outfits from all 3 movies to chose from, so just pick the most unique one from each movie and let's be done with it already!

I would also like to see the prequel Obi-Wan set happen, mostly just so we could get the sorely needed SA versions of him for each movie.

Since I'd love to finally get an SA version of C-3PO too, in his gold plating from the OT, let's do a set with him and include the wirey version from TPM, and get a far better version of him out for AOTC, and then we could be done with him for good.

I'd also love to see a counterpart for the upcoming Republic/Imperial troops set, with some of the aforementioned Rebel troopers.  Something with a Rebel Fleet Trooper, a properly scaled Hoth trooper, and a nice SA Endor trooper would sell like absolute hot cakes!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 29, 2005, 03:04 PM
The best one to make for me would be:

ANH - SA Rebel Fleet Trooper
ESB - SA Hoth Rebel Soldier
ROTJ - SA Endor Rebel Soldier

Especially the hoth rebel, but also the rebel fleet trooper and to a lesser degree the endor rebel; but all 3 really need a nice army building version.  That hoth rebel that came out in the SAGA line was absolutely pathetic.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on May 30, 2005, 02:52 AM
Without a doubt Dressel...  That was a choice I'd thrown out myself to others.  The Rebel Soldier's evolution in the classic trilogy is great, and that makes a fantastic army builder set itself. 

On the Endor soldier in that set, I think I'd want a POTF2-styled Endor Soldier over the Saga one...  I like the guys in the full camo duds.  I think they're more representative of them in combat.  I'd just hope the upper body of the Saga figure could be put on poseable lower legs from an Evolution set trooper then.  It works with the POTF2 legs so far...  They just need to be poseable. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on June 10, 2005, 11:51 AM
Not that their release dates necessarily mean anything (I've found stuff at retail months before their "estimated dates" before), but Amazon has pushed the Evolutions packs they have listed back to July 1st now.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on June 10, 2005, 04:27 PM
Quote
Not that their release dates necessarily mean anything (I've found stuff at retail months before their "estimated dates" before), but Amazon has pushed the Evolutions packs they have listed back to July 1st now.

I ended up cancelling my Clone order when it went past the estimated arrival date (May 22nd; I knew very well it wouldn't be released until July 22nd if I were lucky) and Amazon didn't even change the estimate at all when I cancelled the order last week.  I figure I'll find them eventually at retail, and given the fact that Amazon/TRU preorders never really go according to plan, it might even be easier for me to find it at retail than from them.

Today is actually the second revised ship date on the second wave of Unleashed figures (Vader, Ventress, and Sidious/Yoda), so I'm wondering how they're going to explain a third revision. 

Preordering SW stuff online's problems, however, pale in comparison to the wonderful  ::) job that TRU did with preorders while Episode I was out.  Prepayment for a talking Jar Jar figure that nobody's seen a photo of, AND that shows up to retail everywhere else a month before TRU gets them?  Sign me up!

Any word on how the case packs for this assortment are going to be yet?  I assume that the first assortment is all Anakin/Vader, but I'm wondering if the second and third cases will look like this:

ASSORTMENT 2
4 x Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
2 x Clone Troopers/Sandtrooper

ASSORTMENT 3
4 x Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
1 x Sith Lords
1 x Clone Troopers/Sandtrooper
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on June 10, 2005, 04:48 PM
Any word on how the case packs for this assortment are going to be yet?


Well, EE has the pre-order cases like this:

SW Episode III Evolution Wave 1 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85553A):
Star Wars 3 3/4-inch Action Figures Evolution wave 2 case includes 4x individually packaged sets of figures:
4x Anakin to Darth Vader (Pack 1)

SW Episode III Evolution Wave 2 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85553B):
Star Wars 3 3/4-inch Action Figures Evolution wave 2 case includes 4x individually packaged sets of figures:
2x Anakin to Darth Vader (pack 1)
2x Clone Trooper to Sandtrooper (Pack 2)

SW Episode III Evolution Wave 3 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85553C):
Star Wars 3 3/4-inch Action Figures Evolution wave 3 case includes 4x individually packaged sets of figures:
2x Sith Lords (Pack 3)
2x Clone Trooper to Sandtrooper (Pack 2)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on June 18, 2005, 03:34 AM
EE posted another interesting case revision this week:

SW Episode III Evolution Wave 2 Rev. 1 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85553B1):
4x individually packaged sets of Clone Trooper to Sandtrooper (Pack 2) featuring Clone Trooper Captain (Episode II), Clone Trooper Commander (Episode III), and Sandtrooper (Star Wars: A New Hope)

So, we have Hasbro doing something very, very smart... at last. A full case of a sure-fire sell-out figure. Well done.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Vator on June 18, 2005, 03:51 AM
Man I haven't been this excited for figures since VOTC! (Excluding ROTS  ::))

The Anakin set is just helluh cool...just too cool.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on June 18, 2005, 05:58 AM
Verrrrry interesting Jared...  That is smart.  The question then will be whether or not Retail orders enough.  Even at $20 I somehow don't see these sets lasting long...  Not the Clone ones anyway.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on June 18, 2005, 12:55 PM
I just hope retail doesn't go overload on Wave 1 with the 4 Anakins per case. I have a bad feeling that they will clog pegs and prevent newer sets from coming in... :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 18, 2005, 04:27 PM
Am I the only one thinking they could pull off a Chewbacca evolution set?


Yes. ;)

I can't wait for these set's. I think they look fantasic.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: knashdx on June 20, 2005, 04:04 PM
Over the weekend as I was checking the Target computer listings for Star Wars toys I came across a couple different DPCI #'s for upcoming toys. I found the 500th Darth Vader and Evolution Sets. Here are the DPCI #'s for them.

500th Vader - 087061124
Evolution - 087061357
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on June 20, 2005, 08:43 PM
Thanks Knash, that's a help I think...  I'll maybe make a little news post about that too since it may help some folks out in their search for these items.

I know I'm wanting multiple Clone sets and at least 2 of each other set (customizing folks!  CUSTOMIZING!), so I think these are gonna be a hot line of figures.  I just hope the concept in its current form continues with classic product.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on June 21, 2005, 09:38 AM
Hasbro (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.news/newsID.85B19220-D56F-E112-493C0BCF74F56C52/default.cfm) has their "Republic News" update on the Evolutions sets up today, only featuring the Anakin to Vader set at this point though.  Click the linky for more, if interested :).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 21, 2005, 12:54 PM
(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Unleashed/Evolution%20Pack.bmp)

Very interesting to see that this sub-line has moved away from the lava packaging to something more subtle.  I like it.

Can't wait to get my hands on all of these!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on June 21, 2005, 01:18 PM
Does anyone else think the Vader in this 3-pack looks a bit underscaled?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 21, 2005, 04:21 PM
Does anyone else think the Vader in this 3-pack looks a bit underscaled?

Hard to tell from in the box. I'll have to wait and see when i actually get one.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on June 21, 2005, 06:48 PM
It could be?  I am more into this set for the AOTC and ROTS Anakin figures. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on June 22, 2005, 12:59 AM
Yeah, having VOTC Vader I can't say that he was hot on my list, but having seen the figure at C3 with its removable helmet, then I'm inclined to be just as excited about that figure as well. 

I'm pretty happy with these sets from top to bottom.  They're just damn nice.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2005, 12:47 PM
I was checking the Amazon listings for the two packs they've had up (date of July 1st), and noticing something interesting.  Although it is probably just an Amazon error, this wasn't part of the listing before...both the Anakin/Vader (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00079405U/ref=pd_sim_toys_1/104-5563392-2923126?v=glance&s=toys) and Clone/Sandtrooper (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000794064/ref=pd_sim_toys_1/104-5563392-2923126?v=glance&s=toys) sets have a little banner next to them saying "Only Available Online".  Like I said, probably a mistake, but interesting just in case.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 22, 2005, 01:35 PM
both the Anakin/Vader (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00079405U/ref=pd_sim_toys_1/104-5563392-2923126?v=glance&s=toys) and Clone/Sandtrooper (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000794064/ref=pd_sim_toys_1/104-5563392-2923126?v=glance&s=toys) sets have a little banner next to them saying "Only Available Online".  Like I said, probably a mistake, but interesting just in case.

Definitely interesting - hopefully TRU isn't going to avoid bringing these to their brick and mortar stores.  I think that would be a big mistake - these are going to be huge sellers, but a lot of people simply aren't willing to pay for shipping.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on June 23, 2005, 09:41 AM
Given how low my opinion of TRU keeps going, I wouldn't be surprised.  They seem to really just not be in touch with anything about the toy industry and it's shift towards adult collectors/appeal. 

I have a pre-order for the Clone set on Amazon (hah, we'll see if I ever get it) as a "just in case I can't find these in abundance" dealie.  I'm really hoping these ship en masse to retail though because I've probably NOT looked forward to anything this much except MAYBE the VOTC figures (their price makes them less appealing than these Evolutions sets though, obviously).

The way Hasbro's gone since last year, I've been pretty pleased with the company.  VOTC was a big hit, and the Evolutions assortment is just such a spiffy little series.  I'm hoping this continues ina  BIG way.  This is a primo means to get a lotta POTF2 stuff resculpted to fit in with the line as it stands today.  Hasbro's come a long way in a span of about 2 years.  They spun their wheels for a majority of the time but I applaud efforts like these sets.  They're really quite amazing compared to other toy lines on the market.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on June 25, 2005, 04:59 PM
That Amazon listing has some nice loose shots of the figs now (pardon if I missed them and this is old):

ROTS Anakin (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00079405U.01.PT03._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
AOTC Anakin (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00079405U.01.PT01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
Vader (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00079405U.01.PT02._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

That ROTS Anakin still looks amazing. The Vader may just one-up the VOTC version since he looks like he has ball-socket elbows instead of straight-cut ones.  :) I've got a feeling I'll be needing an extra opener set.



Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on June 25, 2005, 06:07 PM
I could be wrong but I thought the Vader had a removable helmet as well Jared, so I agree it's going to one-up the VOTC which is a tough job.  May have the ankles articulated as well... 

I can't wait.  These sets are just perfect looking.  Thanks for pointing that out man!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on June 25, 2005, 06:52 PM
They have the 'online only' tag next to some upcoming LOTR figs, too.  Hmm...

Those loose shots, wow.  Not too big on the cloak on ROTS Anakin, but I can live with it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander Cody on June 26, 2005, 02:03 PM
The only good thing in this set is ROTS Anakin. AOTC Anakin looks like absolute SHHHHHHHHHHHHIT. Vader looks really crappy as well. >:(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on June 26, 2005, 02:49 PM
AOTC Anakin is good, but his face could be better. ROTS Anakin is flawless, as is Vader, but I hope Vader's helmet is easy to keep together.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: speedermike on June 26, 2005, 06:47 PM
Actually, it looks like the ROTS Anikin is flawed.  Looks like he's got the golden mechanical hand.  Hopefully he comes with the blaclk leatcher glove hand too.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on June 26, 2005, 08:07 PM
I am more impressed with AOTC Anakin than the other 2 although the ROTS Anakin looks good to.  I am not all that impressed with that soft goods cloak but it's better than the hooded Mustafar battle damaged Anakin.  Vader, well it's yet another Vader. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander Cody on June 26, 2005, 09:50 PM
I am more impressed with AOTC Anakin than the other 2 . 

Are you blind? Do you see that face??
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander Cody on June 26, 2005, 09:51 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3061.JPG)


That's what it should have looked like. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on June 26, 2005, 11:04 PM
^^^ It has interchangeable arms.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2005, 12:43 AM
I think AOTC Anakin and ROTS Anakin both look fantastic actually...  As per our front page, here's some images of what I think the final product's going to look like while the shot shown before is the figures from C3 which weren't seemingly the "final" product.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Unleashed/Anakin%202a%20copy.jpg)

&

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Unleashed/Anakin%201a%20copy.jpg)

I think the headsculpts on both look great in those pictures...  Much truer to the actor than the hand-painted ones at C3 which can either be REALLY great or not too accurate. 

I agree that ROTS Ani's robe poofs a bit, however I've never trusted displayed shots unless a collector did it.  :)  I can get my VOTC Obi's cloak to lay better than any shot I ever saw, yet it still sorta bites.  I'm thinking that, by the look of the fabric on ROS Ani, I can get the robe to lay better than the effort made in that picture. 

The Vader, I think, had a removable helmet...  It may just be another Vader, but if it's got a removable helmet and the ball/socket joints I'm thinking it has, it's going to blow the VOTC out of the water which is currently my #1...  :)  I'm all for that!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on June 27, 2005, 01:14 AM
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00079405U.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

The helmet is certainly removable.  :) I'm curious about the inner tunic. From the close-up shot, it almost looks like it is a seperate piece that extends all the way to the shoulders, meaning that the belt is a removable part similar to VOTC Luke that the tunic goes under.

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on June 27, 2005, 01:17 AM
Vader is sort of an oddly mixed ROTS/ROTJ version with the tunics and the head sculpts

I wonder if they physically can't do a 2 piece helmet?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2005, 03:19 AM
I know I've seen customs with 2-piece helmets (BTW, thanks for that shot Jared, I'd forgotten about that one)...  I like to think if a customizer can do it, Hasbro can, but they simply choose not to for whatever reason. 

I'd dig a 2-piece one too...  I'm so happy to see this be a seemingly substantial improvement over the VOTC though that I'm just jonesin' to pick that set up...  I'll forever want that 2-piece helmet though...  And a nice meditation chamber too.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on June 27, 2005, 09:14 AM
I am more impressed with AOTC Anakin than the other 2 . 

Are you blind? Do you see that face??

LOL!  I guess I am not that unimpressed by it.  It looks ok to me as of right now.  If you really want to complain about his face check out that Clone Wars battle pack. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 27, 2005, 01:45 PM
For me, these three figures are as close to "perfect" as I could have ever hoped for. The accessories, the sculpt, the articulation and the likenesses are all top notch.

Personally, I would prefer that they start doing this for EVERY major character of the Saga - if you think about it, the on-going appeal to buying these sets is infinite - in other words, if they put these Evolutions sets in generic Saga type packaging they could keep pumping them out from now until the license expires.

Give us Evolutions now of:
Jedi Masters (Qui-Gon, Mace Windu, PT Yoda)
Obi-Wan (PT only - TPM, AOTC, ROTS)
Padme (anything, she's horribly overlooked action figure-wise)
C-3PO (TPM, AOTC, EP3-6)
Luke (X-Wing Pilot, Bespin/Dagobah, ROTJ)
Leia (Ceremony, Hoth, Endor)
Han (Hoth, Bespin, Endor)
Lando (Smuggler, Skiff Guard, General)
Bounty Hunters (Aurra Sing, Zam Wessel, Bossk)
Fetts (Jango, Young Boba or Red Training Uniform Adult Clone, ESB Boba)

And then just keep shipping those sets (along with the other three) and you would keep all of the MAIN characters that kids and new collectors would ALWAYS want. Top it off by offering a box set of the 12 VOTC figures as a OT "Starter Set" and you could just keep pumping the same stock out over and over and over again for the next 13 years.

With the main characters covered, you could then use the regular carded figure line as a way of getting odd characters out that typically appeal more to collectors than the casual or younger buyer.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on June 27, 2005, 03:48 PM
I know I've seen customs with 2-piece helmets (BTW, thanks for that shot Jared, I'd forgotten about that one)...  I like to think if a customizer can do it, Hasbro can, but they simply choose not to for whatever reason. 

I've been convinced the complete helmet assembly could be done ever since the removable mask segment on the Dagobah Darth Vader shipped, at least technically. If they can get something that small to work, they shouldn't have an issue with the regular helmet. I wonder is it has to do with scale, like to make the fully assembled helmet look in proportion, the actual human head inside needs to be smaller.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander Cody on June 27, 2005, 05:36 PM
I think AOTC Anakin and ROTS Anakin both look fantastic actually... 


WTF??? HOW? Are you blind also??
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 27, 2005, 05:45 PM
I think Jesse James and Darth Broem are simply expressing their opinions, so maybe you can just respect that.

What is so drastically different between these 2 pictures that makes you hate one the first one and love the second?  I'm just wondering if you can explain your opinion a little more, that's all.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Unleashed/Anakin%202a%20copy.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/gallery/c3/hasbro-042205/IMG_3061.JPG)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2005, 05:48 PM
The headsculpts look accurate to me...  They look like Christensen spot-on, and miles beyond any previous attempt. 

My beef with the 2nd pic there Jess, is the hand-painting more than the sculpt.  The eyes are all wrong, the skintone's a little funky...  Hand-painted early samples can really be hit or miss, and that one's a miss.  I think the sculpt's just dandy though as I'm sure it's what they used for tha tproduction photo just above it.  And that, is a sweet looking figure to me...

ROTS Anakin is the same.  Much crisper sculpt, accurate...  Blows his basic counterparts out of the water.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on June 27, 2005, 06:07 PM
I prefer the C3 version myself, with the more realistic skin tones and finish (matte, instead of glossy).  I figured that wasn't the finished product though, and it came out looking pretty much as I expected.  Still better than any of the prior Anakins, so that's definitely cool.

No need to get quite so excited over it though, Cody.  :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on June 27, 2005, 07:29 PM
Whew!  At least I now know I am not blind!  LOL!  Just kidding Cody.  I know what you mean.  Sometimes people don't see eye to eye.  There are plenty of things about SW figs that annoy me but everyone else seems to like.  Then I don't like some things about them and seems like everyone loves them.  You never know? 

To me the AOTC head sculpt is pretty good for a 3 3/4 toy of Hayden.  I will agree that it's not perfect and it could be better I suppose, but for what it is it works fine for me.  Now Anakin's pack-in figure on the AOTC speeder bike is a different story...for me. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander Cody on June 27, 2005, 09:54 PM
Yeah. That's a fair resolution. I think my main beef is the thick black eyebrows and the eyes.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 27, 2005, 10:07 PM
You make a good point.   :)

That picture with the JD logo on it may be a little deceiving too - it's taken from a different angle which may cause the eyebrows to appear bigger than they really are because of shadowing.  Can't wait to have the real thing in my hands!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: bobafett1121 on June 28, 2005, 12:27 PM
All I know is that hasbro is finally starting to listen to all the fans and what they are asking for. I think the sculpt and articulation for the evolution set is one og the best things they ever did. I just hope they continue this same figure making with the rest of the ROTS figures and beyond.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 1, 2005, 11:12 AM
Amazon says they can ship both the Anakin and Clone sets in 2 to 3 days. Is this for real or am I going to end up waiting?

Has anyone ordered from Amazon and had the stuff arrive in good shape? That's my biggest concern.

They also have Tarkin, Ask Aak and Meena Tills in stock and I need all three of them and I'm tempted to just suck it up and pay the $7.99 price tag since (a) it's cheaper than the going rate on eBay and (b) I have come up completely empty on finding these three figures locally - they supposedly hit in the middle of May, but I missed them completely...

They also say they have in the first two battle packs to ship in 2 to 3 days.

Any advice? Should I chance it with the figures and then wait to get the 3 and 5 figure multi-packs in store?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 1, 2005, 05:13 PM
Amazon-TRU.com doesn't exactly have a good track record on listing actual stock status of an item these days.  The second wave of Unleashed has been listed as being "In Stock-Ships in 2 to 3 Days" on several occasions since early April, but they never had them until just recently. 

They also seem to apply release dates to things fairly arbitrarily when it comes to Star Wars toys, and with this being a holiday weekend (meaning no operations on Monday) in the US, they could say 2 to 3 days to ship, and even if they had them in stock (anything other than the Anakin-Vader set I doubt they actually have), it would be Wednesday of next week, if not later, before they were sent out.

Amazon's really falling off in terms of keeping accounts updated.  I had ordered a Nine Inch Nails CD about two months in advance, since it was a limited edition import, and I got the email saying the release date had changed.  Then, I checked the site and it was listed as "In Stock: Ships Within 24 Hours."  So, I wrote them a letter asking why something I had ordered two months ago and waited on was being denied to me but offered for general sale on the site, and they apologized profusely, upgraded to next day shipping, and the following day by 12 noon I had that CD in my hands. 

The Unleashed figures are still listed in my account as shipping between June 10 and June 24, despite my having received an email authorizing a delay on their (third) release date.  Beth (jadesfire) has already received her UL Vader from that wave from Amazon, but neither of the other two figures and no explanation as to when they'll be coming, so I don't know what Amazon is up to right now.

So, uh, long story short, I'd only order what you think you might not be able to find at retail, and if they don't stick to the "2 to 3 day" shipping thing, call them on it. :)

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Deanpaul on July 1, 2005, 05:20 PM
If you go through with the order process on Amazon the Evolution sets show up as "Estimated ship date on these two items is August 31st, 2005". They usually ship within 2-3 days of when they are available, which Amazon estimates as the end of August.

Thay're not out to intentionally provide bad customer service or screw you over.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 1, 2005, 05:43 PM
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If you go through with the order process on Amazon the Evolution sets show up as "Estimated ship date on these two items is August 31st, 2005". They usually ship within 2-3 days of when they are available, which Amazon estimates as the end of August.

I was just getting ready to edit my post with that same information, but you beat me to it. :)

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Thay're not out to intentionally provide bad customer service or screw you over.

Oh yeah, I know that.  In fact, I thought them upgrading the CD to overnight shipping when I had paid for the super slow shipping was very generous, and Amazon's CS department has always been very helpful.  It just seems like, as far as keeping the site up to date, they've been falling off here recently.  I don't know if it has something to do with the problems TRU has been having at retail or what, but it's very erratic, and I was very surprised to see the August 31 ship date for an item that is in stock and ships in 2-3 days.  :o

Also, a quick question about something (and this is probably going to veer off topic, so mods feel free to move it if it does): I was under the impression that the reason Amazon and TRU combined their toy efforts was to give Amazon's toy dept. the biggest and most recognizable name in toy retailers online.  If this is true, why is it that Brian's Toys is allowed to sell items through Amazon that show up in searches of TRU.com's items but cannot be ordered from TRU or Amazon, instead of them being a part of a zShop or whatever they're called.  Wasn't one of the conditions of the Amazon-TRU "merger" that Amazon would exclusively handle toys from TRU?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 1, 2005, 06:03 PM
Yeah it says they're in stock and ready to ship in 2-3 days, but then estimated ship date is August 31st.  2 months is a little different than 2 days.  I cancelled my order for now.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 3, 2005, 01:29 AM
I'm riding this one out I figure...  I've had an order in for Evolutions at Amazon now for months.  We'll see how it pans out.  I don't pre-order much at all but I do want to have 3 (at least) guaranteed sets of the Clones/Stormtrooper. 

It's only a pain to keep bumping that outstanding order up every time I have to balance my checkbook.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on July 4, 2005, 09:56 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5985474263&fromMakeTrack=true

Are these the EPII Clones from the Evolutions Packs or the Saga ones?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 4, 2005, 10:15 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5985474263&fromMakeTrack=true

Are these the EPII Clones from the Evolutions Packs or the Saga ones?

Saga, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Vator on July 4, 2005, 11:32 PM
Saga...and it WAS you who bought those Mottis a few weeks back!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on July 7, 2005, 09:18 AM
Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=4618&zoneid=2) has a nice preview, complete with pics, of the upcoming Anakin to Vader Evolutions set.  I really think this set is pretty spiffy, and I'm really looking forward to it.  I hope this line continues in this same fashion, as it looks like we're getting some great VOTC quality figures...and some of the main prequel characters that have really needed "good" versions are starting to be done.  Here's hoping we see sets including Obi-Wan, Padme, 3PO, Jedi (Qui Gon and Mace in particular), Storm/Hoth/Scout troopers, Han, Luke, Leia, and many more.  Lots of potential here :).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 7, 2005, 10:56 AM
Damn, ROTS Anakin has cut elbows. :(

Oh well, still better than all the others we've gotten.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander Cody on July 7, 2005, 11:32 AM
GH Picture (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3622&text=&imageid=15766&box=&shownew=
)

At least the face looks better than it did in those preview pictures. It's satisfactory now. Not perfect, but it'll do.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on July 7, 2005, 11:42 AM
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Damn, ROTS Anakin has cut elbows.

Oh well, still better than all the others we've gotten.

I was a little disappointed to see that as well, but I guess for me it is a minor quibble.  Still by far the best versions we've seen of these characters, and I'm glad to have them.  I guess it is similar to some of the VOTC figures like Darth Vader and Lando....pretty great overall, but could have had ball jointed elbows as well.  Otherwise, pretty nice.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on July 7, 2005, 09:47 PM
Nice shots over at GH, for sure.

Yeah, the cut elbows on the ROTS Anakin are a bit of a disappointment, but I agree, I minor one. Maybe it's possible to customize the figures by swapping the arms from the AOTC one? Has anyone tried ballsocket swaps? Regardless, that Anakin is lightyears ahead of the ones from the basic ROTS line. That headsculpt is great.

I'm more and more impressed by Vader, though, who was the one figure I initially thought was just extra fodder to justify the two Anakins. But wow, softgoods all the way, even on the UPPER torso, next to his chest piece. Impressive. The headsculpt beneath the helmet is, again, well done (hahah... well done... he's crispy). It sure looks like we have a VOTC ROTJ Vader now.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 7, 2005, 10:57 PM
(hahah... well done... he's crispy).

Groan.   ::)   :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on July 10, 2005, 02:27 PM
As mentioned before, I'd like to see evolutions sets of c-3p0 from ep1, ep2 then the finished polished gold version with removable arm/legs/ plus they need more articulation since 3p0  is rather flexible in the movies.
I'd also like an Obi-wan set, from ep1 padawan, either ep2 or 3 then old obi-wan. He could almost be a '5' version to capture padawan, ep2/3, old ben and spirit.
Then I think a Jango/Boba fett set would be cool. Have SA added, removable helmet, different backpacks.
But that's just my thoughts.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2005, 09:01 PM
The Evolutions sets do indeed inspire many other ideas...  This Anakin set's fantastic.  I agree on the angle-cut elbows being a bit of a cop-out, but they appear to yield neutral and 2-handed saber poses so that's good...  The Vader's fantastic.

I still hold out hope for an Obi-Wan (however I want an all-prequal Obi-Wan set as oldi-wan is kinda dull) Evolutions set, a Rebel Trooper Evolutions set (Fleet Trooper, Hoth Trooper, Endor Trooper), and an Imperial Trooper set too (Stormtrooper, Snowtrooper, Scouttroooper).  That'd be just great...

This concept could be something really fantastic in the line though...  Lots of possibilities with it now that all 6 films are done.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DualSaberMaster on July 12, 2005, 03:32 PM
Man, I'm so itching to get my hands on this set.  I am very impressed with what I have seen.  Like most though, I'm a bit dissapointed with ROTS Anakin's swivel elbows(EPII Ani has them, WTF?), and AOTC Anakin's likeness which is a bit off.  Nonetheless, minor quibles as these are probably the closest to VOTC/difinitive prequel figs we will probably see.

I can wait to recreate these scenes:

AOTC Hangar Duel
Invisilbe Hand Duel (primarily Dooku being owned by Anakin on his knees with crossed sabers at his throat)  :D
Anakin leading the 501st to the Jedi Temple
Anakin reveal ROTJ

Hurry up and ship these already!!

I still hold out hope for an Obi-Wan (however I want an all-prequal Obi-Wan set as oldi-wan is kinda dull) Evolutions set

Totally agree with you there.  A all prequel Obi-Wan Evolutions pack is a no brainer, and one that should be made before any Padme set.  There is already a decent old Ben (VOTC), and spirit of Obi-Wan (OTC), so no moldy oldies.  ;D





Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 12, 2005, 04:16 PM
Totally agree with you there.  A all prequel Obi-Wan Evolutions pack is a no brainer, and one that should be made before any Padme set.  There is already a decent old Ben (VOTC), and spirit of Obi-Wan (OTC), so no moldy oldies.  ;D

Ditto - there is absolutely NO NEED to have an Obi-Wan Evolutions set include an Older Obi-Wan from EPIV. The VOTC figure serves its purpose.

We need Obi-Wan from all three PT movies if for no other reason than to be able to sit them in the AOTC Yellow Speeder, AOTC Obi-Wan Jedi Starfighter and ROTS Jedi Starfighter.

As far as I'm concerned the fourth and fifth Evolutions sets should be PT Obi-Wan and Padme. I don't want a Leia in the Padme set either. They can make a Leia Evolutions set that covers all three OT movies (Celebration, Hoth, Endor) if they want.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on July 12, 2005, 07:08 PM
Well Amazon changed there ship dates again on this crap.  Now they say shipping the 15th.  Make up your damn minds.  Supposedly the Anakin and Clone Evolutions as well as the battle packs are slated for this date. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Commander Cody on July 13, 2005, 11:25 AM
I got my first set. Anakin to Vader. It's actually much nicer than I was hoping for and the AOTC Anakin looks okay.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 13, 2005, 11:33 AM
Where did you get it Commander Cody?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 13, 2005, 06:45 PM
Well great...

From GH:

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Evolutions Assortment Variation:

Clone Trooper (Variant Set: White Attack of the Clones Clone Trooper; ARC Trooper with grey deco; and Sandtrooper, dirty, with grey shoulder pauldron.)

Well great, as if the first set wasn't already labelled hard to find. The variants sound good though, I'm definately getting any packs I can find of them.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 13, 2005, 06:46 PM
To me this Clone Evolutions Variant set is a no brainer - especially since you get a SA White AOTC Clone most likely a kit-based ARCTrooper based on the Clone Commander figure which IMHO is a GOOD THING and who doesn't need/want more Sandtroopers based on the VOTC Stormtrooper mold?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on July 13, 2005, 08:29 PM
I know. I don't get why everyone is pissing and moing about these Variants.

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2005, 08:35 PM
I know. I don't get why everyone is pissing and moing about these Variants.

Kevin

Because

1) - there are too many too soon
2) - no one thinks they will be able to find them.

If Hasbro announced they were shipping a case with 3x each of the 4 Clone Variants (Black Pilot #34, Red Shock #6, Green #33, Blue #41), everyone would be cheering -  BUT putting Clone Variants in cases where there are only ONE per case is what the biggest gripes are about...

I think people would be MORE receptive to Evolution Clone pack #2 if they weren't scared that the shelves will be swimming in the Anakin Evo set and Clone Evo pack #1 sets.

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2005, 10:55 PM
I don't think Clone Evo #1 will sit. :)

Anakin and the Sith one though...  If they ship too many, I could see it.  I think the Sith one's the one to be wary of the most though.

I'm all for the repaints/variants myself, but I agree with Jeff wholeheartedly that how scarce these are could be the kind of thing that kills a line.  Not single-handedly of course, but you're bordering on "Chase" ****, which we all know has not helped a lot of the major lines where that concept reared its ugly head.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on July 13, 2005, 11:04 PM
I am not upset about the variants for the clonetroopers.  I would be fine with them doing all repaints of the SA clonetrooper if that were the case.  I do not like the 1 per case thing.  I just think that is stupid.  Especially for clonetroopers.  How idiotic is that?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 13, 2005, 11:07 PM
What I find ironic and humorous about the clone variant set is that the ROTS clone has fallen over in the GH pictures. It's almost like a commentary on the SW line itself - "It's fallen, and it can't get up"
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 13, 2005, 11:37 PM
I know. I don't get why everyone is pissing and moing about these Variants.

Kevin

Yeah I've seen substantially more moaning than pissing, and for this I am grateful.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 14, 2005, 01:24 AM
I'm still trying to figure out what the deal is on that ARC trooper. GH said an ARC with grey deco, so my first thought was some kitbash from the CW ARC. But from the "birdseye view" on the image, it just looks like the #33 ROTS Clone Commander with new paint. *sigh*

So is it merely a repainted CC that they're trying to pass off as an intermediate stage in between ARCs and ROTS Cmdrs? Or what? (FYI, being a Clone Wars fan I take this ARC trooper **** very seriously.)

I suppose it hardly matters since I'll never ever see one of these at retail.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on July 14, 2005, 01:27 AM
Again, I think this was another miscommunication from a Hasbro rep trying to describe something before the figures were unpacked and on display...

I don't think it is meant to be an ARC Trooper, but a Gray Clone TRooper from RotS... although with the removable helmets these have, you could probably put the Ep2 Helmet on him and just call him an ARC.   ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on July 14, 2005, 01:33 AM
Again, I think this was another miscommunication from a Hasbro rep trying to describe something...

Not surprising, since the dumbasses don't even know which way the Naboo Fighter is supposed to face.  Scope out the Titanium pix, and you'll see that they set the thing up backwards.  No wonder the Star Wars brand is going to hell in a handbag.  I'm not sure if some of these clowns have even seen the freakin' movies...  ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 14, 2005, 01:37 AM
^^ Aha, thanks Jeff, that would make more sense.

So, a new "sorta-EU" clone commander along the lines of the green repaint recently announced?

although with the removable helmets these have, you could probably put the Ep2 Helmet on him and just call him an ARC.   ;)

I may well do that.

In fact, on that same note, I already have plans for putting the "Felucia grunt" gold helmet (from the first set) on the AOTC gold commander body (from the first set)--to replicate Commander Bly from Republic #68:

(http://www.clonewarz.com/database/characters/republic/images/bly.jpg)

This is basically an intermediate stage between the AOTC and ROTS systems, with the ROTS helmet but the ranking system being the same as AOTC.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 14, 2005, 01:40 AM
Clone evolution variations! Awsome. EE has the 4th case assortment of the Evolutions sets listed as a case of 4 clonetroopers. Could be promissing.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2005, 01:48 AM
Indeed, that may be worth a pre-order.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on July 14, 2005, 10:04 PM
(http://www.clonewarz.com/database/characters/republic/images/bly.jpg)

Some one drew me that picture. :)

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DualSaberMaster on July 15, 2005, 01:02 AM
Crap, looks like the "variant" white AOTC Trooper is using the AT-TE gunner mold.  :-\  Yea=ball jointed hips, removable helmet; Nay=swivel shoulders/elbows, no waist articulation.  >:(

My bet is the AOTC (yellow) Commander is not based on the CW/#41, but the Red Clone Commander mold. Both the AOTC Commander and Grey/Bly Trooper appear to have no waist articulation.

Also of note, the Grey/Bly Trooper are missing the "pouch band" the goes around the Red Clone Commander's right arm.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 01:23 AM
For $20 these should ALL damn well be SA. >:(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 15, 2005, 02:25 AM
I'll tell you what, seeing all the sets in person, they look sweet! Even in the packaging. The varient clone set was displayed loose and I don't recall the articulation set up, all I remember is the the pose was very nice. Also, the newly sculpted, movie accurate blaster rife on the Sandtrooper is a very nice addition.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 02:46 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08440.jpg)

I'm not even sure what to call this guy, since he doesn't have rank or legion striping, and on Felucia the infantry had the shoulder thingies too. My guess is he's a regular grunt of some sort, and not a commander at all. Or perhaps I could appoint him commander of all the white #6s and #41s.

While it's somewhat disappointing (I'd been hoping for a really good-quality SA ARC, not like that statue we got before) he does look nice and I'm also oddly relieved. It becomes easier on me since I won't be in "panic mode" to find this, which I would have been if it was an ARC. Now I won't blow a gasket in the fairly likely event I never see it.

*crosses fingers for getting individually carded SA ARCs someday....*
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 15, 2005, 02:53 AM
Just a note I wanted to throw in here...

Valin, I changed your post to one of our photos here at Jedi Defender.

You can find our stuff here at our Sandiego Comic Con Coverage (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005) area.

Other sites are funny about using their photos and such though, and since we have our men in the field out at Comic Con (and that's a higher res picture too) I figure I'd just point some folks in the right direction on that stuff.

Thanks, carry on.  :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 02:58 AM
My bad. That pic was the one I spotted first and I was just lazy. Sorry. :-[
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 15, 2005, 03:09 AM
It's ok Valin, just doing the mod gig is all...  :)  I'll include some more Evolutions shots just to give everyone a collecting woody before bedtime.

The Sandtrooper's BFG rocks all.  The Lewis Gun they have is one of my favorite weapons in the films.  I envision it being a prized weapon among the Rebels too...  And one that's like the German MG's that were mounted on everything from BMW cycles to King Tigers.
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08436.jpg)

And indeed, that white Clone looks like nothing more than the AT-TE Gunner.  I dunno how I feel about that.  If the EE 4-packs were affordable to army build, I'd feel fine.  They're not though, and I'm not sure that I want a HUGE army of the TE Gunner body as the base.  It's ok, but not the best.
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08438.jpg)

The Sith Set is easily the weakest looking.  Dooku looks to be the best of the set, and Maul has appeal but the gritting of the teeth is a bit much...   :-\  Palpatine is the same with his expression.  Yikes. 
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08453.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08454.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08452.jpg)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 03:21 AM
It's ok Valin, just doing the mod gig is all...  :)  I'll include some more Evolutions shots just to give everyone a collecting woody before bedtime.

What is this "bedtime" concept you speak of?? ;D

But seriously, thanks for posting those!

Lovely BFG on the sandtrooper.

I think I will pass on the Sith set entirely. I already have a zillion Mauls; I have an AOTC Dooku and will get my hands on the ROTS version sometime in the not-too-distant future; and that Palpatine looks kinda constipated :-X plus the smothering softgoods robe doesn't do much for me.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 15, 2005, 04:08 AM
Super articulation is, usually, my definitive figure so the Sith set's a no-brainer to me, however it still looks to be the weakest set. 

Anything Vader is hot right now so the Anakin set has that going for it...  The Clone set's easily the hottest set (I really hope that E2 Clone's just a white SA Clone though, and that is just a mock-up), but Anakin's pretty spiffy too.  They'll go fast at first I think.

The Sith set's not bad...  I'll take a SA Maul and hopefully I can fit a non-grimaced head onto him.  The Palpy I like because a softgoods Palpy was needed, I just can't recall if he had multiple heads.  I hope so.  The Dooku's the guy that a lot will simply say they have the ROTS figure and not find him appealing.  He looks better, but not a TON better.  ROTS was a damn nice figure of him.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 15, 2005, 09:23 AM
As I mention before, I hadn't noticed the Gunner body on the clone trooper varient. Now I don't know how to feel about it. In the very least, I hope they're ball jointed elbows.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 15, 2005, 11:00 AM
The Gunner body is just being used on the white variant E2 Clone, correct? Not the regular yellow one?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gregorbian on July 15, 2005, 11:03 AM
As I mention before, I hadn't noticed the Gunner body on the clone trooper varient. Now I don't know how to feel about it. In the very least, I hope they're ball jointed elbows.
Man, I didn't realize that either.  The elbows look like swivel joints to me  :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 15, 2005, 04:50 PM
This is for the people who think I never have anything positive to say.  :P

I just got the Evolutions Anakin to Vader set a few hours ago at the local K-Mart, and I have to say that, without a doubt, this is easily the nicest and best multipack Hasbro has ever done, and it basically nullifies any need for a future single carded Anakin or Vader to be done again.  They might not be perfect, but they're really close to being so.

The only "bad" points are the lack of ball-jointed elbows on ROTS Anakin and the lack of a 2-stage removable helmet on Vader.  The former isn't so bad to me, since the way the arm cuts are made, you can still get his arms completely straight or at an angle; the latter is the only thing that I believe could possibly have been improved upon in this set.  Oh, and the lack of a Vader lightsaber hilt to go on his belt.  But other than that, I LOVE THIS SET.  Way to go Hasbro!

Did I just say that out loud?  :o

Seriously, if you're sitting on the fence about this, do yourself a favor and buy it.  It's already at the top of my list for the best action figure so far this year (well, figureS), and if this is the level of quality the Clone (AT-TE body notwithstanding) and Sith sets will have, then I'm even more psyched than before. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on July 15, 2005, 04:51 PM
I've got it ordered on Amazon.  Along with some clone sets.  And some Unleashed ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 05:07 PM
This is for the people who think I never have anything positive to say.  :P

[effusive gushing snipped]

But other than that, I LOVE THIS SET.  Way to go Hasbro!

Did I just say that out loud?  :o

:o Stop it! You're throwing my entire worldview into disarray! >:(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on July 15, 2005, 05:10 PM
They're hitting.  Just went to my local K-Mart and counted 6 of the Anakins on the shelf.  Price $21.99.  They also had the Battle Packs at the same price.  The set is A+ all the way. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ben on July 15, 2005, 06:13 PM
I picked one up today too. I must have been too picky, but a lot of the sets had either too much lipstick on AOTC Anakin or a receding hairline on ROTS Anakin.

Eventually I found one that met my standards and I brought it home. Nice work, Hasbro. Too bad these things won't last. Good stuff from Hasbro never does.  :(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on July 15, 2005, 06:36 PM
Well been messing with these about a 1/2 hour now.  The AOTC Anakin is okay.  The ROTS Anakin is awesome and the Vader is best yet.  Still looking for something I dont like about it.  Great neutral and action poses.  The RH is really good and gives a great likeness of the actual scene.  Will be hard to improve this fig in this scale. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Deanpaul on July 15, 2005, 06:37 PM
I got one today as well and I'm psyched.

Since no one else is bitching I will:

I'm glad Vader has ball jointed elbows, but wish his helmet stayed on a little better. My biggest issue:

[Leia]Aren't you a little short for a Vader?[/Leia]
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 15, 2005, 07:06 PM
And you all found these at K-Mart?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ben on July 15, 2005, 07:27 PM
That's where I got mine. $21.99 plus tax.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 15, 2005, 07:30 PM
Damn. I hate those ******* for leaving Austin. I could have an Evolutions set now. Thanks a lot, K-Mart! >:(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on July 15, 2005, 07:49 PM
I got one today as well and I'm psyched.

Since no one else is bitching I will:

I'm glad Vader has ball jointed elbows, but wish his helmet stayed on a little better. My biggest issue:

[Leia]Aren't you a little short for a Vader?[/Leia]

DP, I'm a little frustrated with the helmet as well but can live with it.  I mentioned the size of Vader a while ago.  My thoughts were proven.  He should of been taller.  On a side note, did anyone find the Clone Evoulution on the shelves with the Anakin. 

Also, playing, er studying the Anakin EP3.  I love this figure. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Deanpaul on July 15, 2005, 08:00 PM
The clone evolution sets were not in with the Vader I found. The stocker brought a case out from the back for me and said there were other Vaders but no other Evolution sets. The Vaders were 4 to a case, nothing else in the case.

Someone else said they found the Jedi vs. Sith and maybe the Anakin & Clones at teh Jedi Temple set at Kmart as well. Wish I would have hung around the store a little longer, or known to ask the stocker...  :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: evenflow on July 15, 2005, 08:02 PM
Can someone tell me which figures are in the clone set? Which one is the variant. Sorry I missed it, and backtracking on this thread seems more complicated than i thought it would be.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 08:32 PM
First announced version:

AOTC gold-striped commander

ROTS Felucia infantry (gold  striping)

Sandtrooper with orange  shoulderboard

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0630.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0631.jpg)

Second version:
AOTC white clone infantry

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08438.jpg)

ROTS commander type with gray shoulderboard

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08440.jpg)

Sandtrooper with white shoulderboard

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08436.jpg)

I guess there is supposed to be some interchangeable helmet action going on as well.

I'm not sure whether the second one is considered a variant, or if they will be available in equal numbers.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: evenflow on July 15, 2005, 08:40 PM
Very cool thanks for the info.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on July 15, 2005, 09:06 PM
Got the Anakin one today... woo hoo!

This set totally rocks, and I'll definitely pick up a second, and maybe even a third.

AOTC - killer face/head sculpt, ultimat articulation, interchangeable right hand... VOTC quality, if not better!

ROTS - same as the AOTC... but no scars on his face kind of surprised me

ROTJ - wonderful, could be a bit taller, but I'm 100% happy with it... love the face sculpt under the helmet

OVerall, well worth my money and better than paying $10.00 for them to be separate on VOTC type cards.  Thought about swapping the heads on the AOTC and ROTS versions for the heck of it, but they don't seem to want to pop off and I don't want to break them.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 15, 2005, 09:34 PM
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And you all found these at K-Mart?

Yep, I paid 21.99, same as Ben.  There were two left on an endcap of SW figures, and I actually had the presence of mind to do a comparison on the aforementioned "lipstick" before I got the one I wanted.  The paint jobs on all three were very good, and as I said before, I'm very happy with this set.  Probably the happiest I've been with a SW action figure in a long time. 

No signs of any Clone Evolutions packs (I didn't think these came out until the second case assortment), and the K-Mart I went to didn't have any of the (groan) Battle Packs either.  I couldn't help but laugh at the absurdity of the situation, since the Target and Wal-Marts nearby seem to have a major aversion to stocking the pegs these days, and K-Mart has by all indications been unloading the trucks nationwide at nearly the same time.  I think the Big K is the only retailer that you can say, "I found one in California" on Monday and then someone else say, "I found one in Massachusetts" three days later.  It seems to take forever for WM, TRU, or Target to get things in stock after they show up in CA.

Quote
Stop it! You're throwing my entire worldview into disarray!

Don't worry, Valin; I'm sure Hasbro will do something to completely nullify my positive experience with them.  They always do.   ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ben on July 16, 2005, 01:44 AM
Looks like I'll be buying two of the Clone Evolutions packs. I hadn't seen that second version till now.

I wish K-Mart would get some basic figures in next. I wouldn't mind paying $7 each just to have them at last. I still haven't seen the Tarkin wave here, and it's not from lack of trying.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on July 16, 2005, 10:26 AM

Someone else said they found the Jedi vs. Sith and maybe the Anakin & Clones at teh Jedi Temple set at Kmart as well. Wish I would have hung around the store a little longer, or known to ask the stocker...  :P

Im the one who found the Sith Battlepack next to the Evolution.  The woman stocking said the Temple Raid set was put out along with these but were gone. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: evenflow on July 16, 2005, 12:06 PM
Looks like I'll be buying two of the Clone Evolutions packs.

Me too, we all better start saving up our money.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: dafoo on July 16, 2005, 03:14 PM
21.99 for 3 figures.. bleh, the price goes UP with volume?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on July 16, 2005, 06:05 PM
21.99 for 3 figures.. bleh, the price goes UP with volume?

Well, these figures are more along the lines of the VOTC figure line than the Basic Figure line.  The VOTC line sold for ~$9.99 per figure, so I'm okay with getting 3 X figures like this for $21.99.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on July 16, 2005, 07:40 PM
The quality is VOTC all the way so the mark up is fine with me.  That E3 Anakin is going to look sweet surrounded with the 501 Clones.  Bring on the Clone Evolution packs.  Anyone know if there will be any variations with the Clone Evolution?  A running change in colors, etc?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on July 16, 2005, 07:59 PM
There already is.  The first set is yellow Clones and a Sandtrooper with an orange pauldron.  The second set is a white AOTC Clone, a grey ARC Trooper and a Sandtrooper with a grey pauldron.

In fact, I'd like to see one more set added:  a blue AOTC Clone Trooper, blue ARC Trooper (Alpha anyone?) and a Sandtrooper with a black pauldron.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 17, 2005, 01:27 AM
Rebeltrader,

Here's the Clones from SDCC...  Jared went nuts taking great pictures.  Really great quality work from Jared and Matt out there, so browse the San Diego Comic Con coverage on our front page for more shots (I love that Sandtrooper figure).

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08447.jpg)

The Evolutions sets were found around Pittsburgh for $17.95 I believe, so prices may vary depending where you nab stuff.  I found the battlepacks, but no Evo's out in my area...  Looked like someone had hit the local KM before me actually so perhaps I just missed 'em.

I think $20's reasonable...  Not the best price, but not the worst either by far.  Condensing 3 figures into a relatively standardized package SHOULD come at a price decrease, and from VOTC to Evolutions we've seen that.  Lots of accessories helps these sets too, as an increase in value... 

BTW, that improved Sandtrooper heavy rifle just ain't gettin' enough love.  It's a minor detail, but man I love that thing.  Complete with the different color leather sling.  Nice.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on July 19, 2005, 04:44 PM
Photo sans helmets (the clones are removable, the stormie is not). Confirmation of alternate pilot helmet on the AOTC clone.

Click here (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/Hasbro_Q_and_A/DSC08858.jpg)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2005, 12:54 AM
Sweet, I musta even missed that picture Jared snapped!  hah

Wonder if the white variant will have the pilot helmet then?  I'd be surprised if it didn't come with it just because it'd require someone altering production orders...  Not a lotta work, but not something I expect them to be bothered with either.  Kinda like the holo weapons Holo Leia came with, then didn't come with.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on July 20, 2005, 07:45 AM
Ouch, I'd like to order this assortment, but at $26.25 a piece, I think I'll take my chances with retail!   :o

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS85553B1
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: dafoo on July 20, 2005, 07:01 PM
hey that's neato
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on July 20, 2005, 08:52 PM
Clone pilot helmet?   ;D  Can I get a hell yeah?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on July 20, 2005, 10:37 PM
HELL YEAH!

I've got a recent facination with Clone Pilots, so this is great news. I can have a "Clone Pilot Comander" with gold arm stripes. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on July 20, 2005, 10:58 PM
That's wonderful news... I was already planning on getting a couple of this set, now I've got even more of a reason too!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Vator on July 20, 2005, 11:39 PM
...Didn't an issue Insider already show the pilot helmet? Maybe it was Hasbro after C3, I can't remember which.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2005, 12:11 AM
I thought I either read that, or Hasbro mentioned it at C3 (no pics of it though), so I sorta wasn't surprised by the helmet, however seeing it is nice.

The VOTC styled figs, extra gear...  Evolutions is such a fantastic concept and Hasbro's apparantly tanking it after these 3 sets...  at least for a while anyway.  That bites.

Sorta hurts knowing that so many great Evolutions sets that people have tossed about on the forums aren't gonna happen as of right now...  I truly hope they rethink the decision to cut the line.  I'd much prefer this to VOTC honestly. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on July 21, 2005, 12:32 AM
Yeah, the extra Clone Pilot Helmet was mentioned by Hasbro at Celebration 3.  You can just barely make it out in my picture from the C3 Hasbro QnA:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/Hasbro_Conference/IMG_0615.jpg)

Seems like a little nugget that everyone has forgotten about!

Jeff



Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2005, 12:45 AM
There ya go.  I scoured our pictures and forgot about the slideshow Jeff, so thanks.

I didn't see it in the case display though so assumed it wasn't there.

I knew I saw that at C3 though.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 21, 2005, 01:01 AM
These sets just keep getting better every time I turn around. You know, Hasbro get s a lot of guff from us, but I think this is one of those instances where they deserve a huge round of applause because these sets just rock!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on July 21, 2005, 08:42 AM
Agreed.

It's frustrating when they kick ass with these Evo sets and then pull crazy **** with the Battle Packs, rehashes, 2" Unleashed, etc.

Soooo tempted to order that solid pack of clone evo packs....
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on July 21, 2005, 09:52 AM
Well, it seems the Asia e-tailers are all getting the Clone and Sith sets in-stock.   :o

I guess they should still be on track to get here in August!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-05/oth002788a_b.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-05/oth002789_b.jpg)
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Post by: Darth_Anton on July 21, 2005, 10:37 AM

Soooo tempted to order that solid pack of clone evo packs....

Me too.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 21, 2005, 11:05 AM
What is the best way to order the clone pack right now?

If we order through Amazon, how can we guarantee we get the colored pack (gold EII clone, Bly grunt EIII clone, and orange sandie)?

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Post by: speedermike on July 21, 2005, 11:28 AM
Love, love, love, love that Sandtrooper gun!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on July 21, 2005, 11:36 AM
One complaint I do have is the absence of more "regular" blasters in the clone set.  Looks like there is only one included.

But the inclusion of the Clone Pilot helmet easily makes up for it!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on July 21, 2005, 11:37 AM
Got the Anakin one today... woo hoo!

This set totally rocks, and I'll definitely pick up a second, and maybe even a third.

AOTC - killer face/head sculpt, ultimat articulation, interchangeable right hand... VOTC quality, if not better!

ROTS - same as the AOTC... but no scars on his face kind of surprised me

ROTJ - wonderful, could be a bit taller, but I'm 100% happy with it... love the face sculpt under the helmet

OVerall, well worth my money and better than paying $10.00 for them to be separate on VOTC type cards.  Thought about swapping the heads on the AOTC and ROTS versions for the heck of it, but they don't seem to want to pop off and I don't want to break them.

 :P

Did you buy these at K-mart?  If so, how much did they set you back? 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: speedermike on July 21, 2005, 03:40 PM
I just picked up the Anikin Evolutions set at K-Mart.  I think it was 25.00.  A little steep, but that's still cheaper than the VOTC, and the figures are just as good, if not better.

My only compliant is that Vader is not tall enough.  Other than that, the only drawback is that the E2 Anikin can't spead his legs.  I really wanted him to ride the Reek!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 22, 2005, 11:22 AM
One complaint I do have is the absence of more "regular" blasters in the clone set.  Looks like there is only one included.

But the inclusion of the Clone Pilot helmet easily makes up for it!

I feel the same way. I would have also like to have seen a regular issue imperial blaster with the sandie.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2005, 03:41 AM
Clone rifles, and one E-11 for the Sandtrooper, would've been nice.  That stupid Clone carbine keeps popping up though.  The Clone evolutions set would've been a nice time to maybe have slipped extra Clone rifles in though to arm those SA's and EE 4-packs with though.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DualSaberMaster on July 23, 2005, 04:01 AM
The pack in DC-15 rifle seems to be a all new sculpt.  It's alot thinner/longer and more in scale to the "movie" version in relation to the fig, compared to the Saga/ROTS DC-15.  Also, the blaster, and rifle have more of "weathered" wash, which looks alot nicer IMO.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2005, 04:11 AM
Ya know, I noticed that too DSM, and I just picked up the Vis. Dictionary tonight for E3 and man that gun Hasbro has been using isn't too swift.  I'm ok with it, it's miles superior to POTF2 styled sculpts, but that Evolutions DC-15 looks to be a 100% resculpt of that gun and a HELL of a lot better/accurate than what we've had.

I almost wish I didn't know that, haha.  It'll bug me now.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on July 23, 2005, 05:38 AM
I LOVE these Evolutions sets, and I wish Hasbro would be going forward with them, with the ones we all want (Obi Wan, Padme...).  But I guess if they can slip these quality figures into the Saga assortments, then that will be okay. 

I'm going to pop the Clone pilot helmet on a spare AT TE Tank Gunner for sure, and maybe a #41 Clone if it fits right. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 23, 2005, 10:53 AM
Do you guys think Hasbro will go ahead with the Gunner body for the E2 clone in the varient set? If so, what do you think about it?

I'd personally be disappointed. The ony real good thing about the gunner body is the ball jointed hips. If they added ball joints for the elbows, that would at least be an improvement.
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Post by: DualSaberMaster on July 23, 2005, 01:15 PM
Do you guys think Hasbro will go ahead with the Gunner body for the E2 clone in the varient set? If so, what do you think about it?

IMPO, I think (hope to the toy gods) that the tank gunner was just a mock up.  It looks put together very last minute, they way they just set it up for display at SDCC.  All they did was slap a Ep.II helmet from the Saga speeder bike Clone.  Also to consider is that they would have to retool the packaging to accomodate the gunners arms, as they do not go to his sides they way the Evo Troopers are packed.

I'd personally be disappointed. The ony real good thing about the gunner body is the ball jointed hips. If they added ball joints for the elbows, that would at least be an improvement.

I would be pretty bummed too. Considering that these Evo Troopers sets are looking spectacular.  My only gripe is that it appears that the Clones do not have any waist articulation, and the Sandtrooper waist looks iffy as well.

Also, I can't wait to see how the heads underneath look.  If memory serves me right from ReHashbro's Slideshow at SDCC, it appears the AOTC Commander has a all new Temuera Morrison face, and Bly Trooper has the Gunner  face.  So it's all good! :D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 23, 2005, 08:56 PM
Isn't it funny Muftak how luke got darker through the classic trilogy as it went on ..LOL I mean think about it
He was a baby=really white

then he was a young buck(NH)=white with yellow and brown
 
then he was grey(ESB)= getting darker

finally he was ..Black?= like a sith

shoot he was even choking Gam. guards like vader

A 4 pack..! wow! Why did lucas change the jedi apparrel so that they were all wearing light or warm brown robes? even obi-won had a dark robe in (NH)?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on July 24, 2005, 02:39 AM
Anton, I think the TE Tank Gunner's what we're getting at this point...  So late in the game, the items displayed looked like production stuff to me, but they could surprise us.

I too am a bit disappointed at the TE Gunner being included, should that be the case, as he's not the best sculpt overall.  The legs are his only benefit while the rest of the figure's a bit unposeable.  I look at the sets more for the Sandtrooper at this point, and the Clones are just gravy.  I'd have rather gotten a SA Clone with a removable helmet than the TE Gunner, I agree...  I think we're getting TE Gunners though unfortunately.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on July 24, 2005, 07:30 PM
I got my first Evolutions set today.  The Anakin to Vader.  Good Lord I love this piece!  It's probably one of the few times I did not mind paying $20 for just 3 figures.  I can't wait for the Trooper sets! 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 25, 2005, 10:36 AM
Isn't it funny Muftak how luke got darker through the classic trilogy as it went on ..LOL I mean think about it
He was a baby=really white

then he was a young buck(NH)=white with yellow and brown
 
then he was grey(ESB)= getting darker

finally he was ..Black?= like a sith

shoot he was even choking Gam. guards like vader

A 4 pack..! wow! Why did lucas change the jedi apparrel so that they were all wearing light or warm brown robes? even obi-won had a dark robe in (NH)?

Great observation and excellent evolutions pack idea! It would be perfect. The Jedi Luke could come with interchangeable hand, cloak and vest for Tatooine scenes and poncho and Helmet for endor scenes. It could rock!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 25, 2005, 02:36 PM
FYI, the Anakin set showed up at a newly opened Target around here last week. So they should be shipping to the rest of the Targets pretty soon...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on July 26, 2005, 01:47 AM
I was able to grab my two sets by using the DPCI# tonight. The Target guy brought out a case which had 4 Anakins, no Clones.

I really, really like the AOTC Anakin. Its strange, but I think the facial likeness grows on me the more I look at it. From some angles its just off, but at others it is dead on. The articulation is great and the soft goods work well. It's my favorite Anakin.

ROTS Anakin I don't like so much. The cut elbows hamper what really needed to be the most poseable of the Anakins, and for some reason his robes taper out to some really giant bellbottomed cuffs at the wrists. I don't know why they look like giant cannons when the arms on the AOTC version are perfect. It's strange how they mixed and matched articulation and didn't standardize them across all three figures. Still, he's the best of the ROTS Anakins I think. Its not a clearly superior figure like the AOTC one, though.

Like others have mentioned, and I agree, Vader is a little short. Also, he can't really kneel down since his, well I guess its a codpiece, is sculpted to his pelvis, and it prevents movement of the legs. He can sort of squat. It's not a showstopper but a tad limiting.

Overall, I'm still very happy with the set. Just not floored like I was when we first saw them at C3. The packaging really feels special and the the accessories are perfect. I can't wait to see how the final Clone pack turns out.
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Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2005, 02:15 AM
I gotta get off my ass and do some toy runs here.  I've been slacking with the slow-down/stop we have had around my area.  All I've been hitting has been K-Mart, and they're dead now too.

I NEED this set!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 26, 2005, 04:46 PM
**** yeah, thanks for the DCPI numbers, Jeff!

I was able to get an Anakin set from the back with the help of the nicest Target employee I've ever encountered. Make sure to have the DCPI number handy if you go.

Opening the set after I post this, will edit with thoughts later.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: jadesfire on July 26, 2005, 07:35 PM
thanks for the DCPI numbers, Jeff!



I give up...I can't find those numbers in this thread (at least 6 pages back).  Can you list them again please.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 26, 2005, 08:51 PM
It was on the second page. ;)

Anyone know the Target DCPI #s? (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8174.0)

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Star Wars Figure Evolution Set:
087-06-1357

 :)
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Post by: jadesfire on July 27, 2005, 07:25 AM
Thank you!!!! ;D
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Post by: Pete_Fett on July 27, 2005, 09:29 AM
The numbers may do you no good - many price scanners at Target stores are now unable to process keyed-in DPCI numbers.

Apparently this has been a new change in policy at Target to across the boards, disable this function.

Also, you may be hard-pressed to find an employee who is willing to key in the number.

What would be the best thing is if someone could scan in the barcode from the package and post it here.

I have it at home and could do it tonight if everyone is interested. You print that out and then scan that in the price scanner and you can get around the key pad lock-out. You know - I think I'll do that tonight for the following:

Target Cups
500th Vader
Battle Packs
Evolutions Sets
Collection 1
Collection 2
Deluxe
Unleashed

Can anyone think of any other lines they would want to check regularly?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2005, 10:55 AM
Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=4727&zoneid=2) now has a new preview up for the Clone to Sandtrooper evolution set.  Lots of purty pictures too.  This set looks really nice, can't wait to pick it up (or a couple).  Hopefully there will be plenty shipped, so everyone can find what they want.
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Post by: SilverZ on July 27, 2005, 12:04 PM
For the most part those look pretty good, I think. Strange how with this set it looks as though the AOTC figure recieved the most love.

I wish the figures had the SA torso ballsocket -- that would have made all of the figures ultimate versions. They're all just so, so close.

What's with the sandtrooper's mud smears? It looks like he's been in a German ****** video.
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Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 27, 2005, 12:20 PM
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What's with the sandtrooper's mud smears? It looks like he's been in a German ****** video.

So that's who that was with Mrs. Cartman!  :o

In all seriousness, I'm beyond pleased with the fact that they didn't cut a big corner and stick a TM head on the AOTC Clone Commander.  Seeing Bodie Taylor's head made me really happy that they were paying attention to the little details like that. :)

Now, I just hope I can actually find these when they come out. 
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Post by: Jesse James on July 27, 2005, 12:27 PM
And I think I see Cartman's mom!

Anyway, I'm glad to see 3 new sculpts...  especially with the worries over the AT-TE Gunner being snuck into the set.  I find it odd that, so close to production, a mock-up still found its way as the main display piece.

Anyway, noticeably more detail on the Clone Commander compared to his red counterpart.

I love the Sandtrooper...

But the weird thing is, I'm sorta disappointed in the guns.  I like the Sandtrooper's BFG so far, but there's no E-11 as has been mentioned and that kinda bites.  The Clone rifles both look to be new sculpts as well, and while I think the Carbine's overall ok, the rifle looks a bit too small (though noticeably more detailed).  I'm still liking the basic figure rifle more since it's not bad and looks substantially sturdier...  Plus I think it's at least the right scale.

Great set, and I hope Hasbro's smart enough to put a LOT of this set out or people are really gonna pull their hair out trying to find it.
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Post by: SilverZ on July 27, 2005, 12:28 PM
Me too. I have a feeling this is going to be an item to watch Target like a hawk for using the DPCI# (if we are so kindly allowed to now).

I have 3 sets preordered on Amazon, but considering how poor their track record has been lately with other preorders (Evo Anakin and 500th Vader) I'm not going to count on them coming through. It may be time to order the all-Clone case from EE.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: jadesfire on July 27, 2005, 03:21 PM
I can't believe how fantastic these figures look.  I'm glad Jesse thought the one gun was a little to small since it was the only thing that struck me odd when I looked at the pictures before continuing on with reading the posts. 

I have to add that I called the Marquette Target with the code and the toy manager was more than happy to let me know the toys reset was next week and that even though they were NOT on the truck for inventory set next week, he said to call again and ask for him and he will hold one of each for me since I live an hour away.  I really appreciate those numbers since it helps me out so much.  I also have a pre-order in at Amazon but like everyone else....who knows!!
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Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 27, 2005, 04:20 PM
Jared, if you do the solid case of Clones from EE, you wouldn't consider hooking an East Coast dullard up with one of the sets would you?   ;D

The relative scarcity of the Anakin/Vader set right now is starting to worry me though.  If the only stores that have gotten the Anakin set in decent numbers are K-Mart and (more recently) Target, I'm afraid that when Wal-Mart or TRU gets their shipments in, it'll also be the all-Anakin cases.  Which means that Target will get the first of the second shipments with the Clones.  K-Mart won't actually get any more since they don't seem to get anything past the first wave of anything, and with Target's new "collector friendly" approach with the DPCI scanners, we'll be lucky to see them there either.

Amazon right now, if you'll pardon the bluntness, is worthless as far as preordering goes.  If their handling of the Unleashed and 500th Vader is any indication, there are going to be a lot of pissed off people when Amazon sends out those "Our supplier has informed us that the following items have been discontinued" cancellation emails on the Evolutions Clones.

And the thing is that HasbroToyShop could be filling this void right now with a LOT of things, but they can't seem to get anything in stock at all, much less popular things.  What a complete failure that has turned out to be.   ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on July 27, 2005, 04:56 PM
Not if that case shows up as 2 original decos/2 repaint decos!  ;)

Funny thing, HasbroToyShop.com. They've been so ineffective at partipating in the e-tail market that they have already been forgotten about entirely. No one even remembers that they exist to bother getting upset that their offerings on the site are pathetic.  8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on July 27, 2005, 05:06 PM
Funny thing, HasbroToyShop.com. They've been so ineffective at partipating in the e-tail market that they have already been forgotten about entirely. No one even remembers that they exist to bother getting upset that their offerings on the site are pathetic.  8)

Accurate statement there, I'd say.  It's been so long since I checked, I'd figured they'd just closed up shop.  Guess not.  Yet.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 28, 2005, 04:54 AM
How much you paid each for your Evo's Jared? Mine were 19.95 ea @ Wal Mart. And...Be careful I'm German.( from page 24)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on July 28, 2005, 09:40 AM
Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=4734&zoneid=2) now has a preview up of the (final?) Evolutions set featuring the Sith.  This one seems to be the least talked about at this point, but the figures look pretty nice here as well.  ROTS Dooku was pretty good on his own, but it will be nice to get a SA-style version of Maul and Palpatine.  Pics at the linky above.  I really wish Hasbro would decide to continue this assortment.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on July 28, 2005, 03:28 PM
How much you paid each for your Evo's Jared? Mine were 19.95 ea @ Wal Mart. And...Be careful I'm German.( from page 24)

They were $19.98 at Target, Slothus. Kmart seems to be the rip-off, as usual, at $21.99.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on July 28, 2005, 03:37 PM
As good as it is, the Sith set looks very disappointing, compared to the others.  Maul's cloak looks laughable on him (I was looking forward to that the most), his saber is way too short, and Palpatine doesn't really look like Palpatine.  I may actually skip this one. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on July 28, 2005, 03:46 PM
I kind of thought the same way Spuffy, after looking at the pics.  While I do like the set, and think it is pretty nice, I'm a little bit let down as well.  Not really because the figures are bad, but because they just aren't "worlds" better than before.  The Maul is probably the best we've seen, but still not quite perfect.  The Dooku doesn't seem a whole lot different/better than the ROTS one, but the Palpatine is something new and different.  I'll probably still pick up the set, because I do like the figures overall, but it just isn't as wow as the Anakin to Vader and Clone to Stormtrooper sets seemed to be...at least to me.  Still, glad to see another set coming, hopefully they'll consider continuing this line...there are a number of possibilities.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on July 28, 2005, 04:45 PM
Well, that Palpy is going to look great being held up by EW Vader, with his face all screwy and his sith lightning flashing out, and soft goods of course. I love the Maul, and I only bought one ROTS Dooku, but I need another for the war room scene. This one will do nicely. Count (no pun intended) me in for this set!  ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: cataclizm1 on July 28, 2005, 08:01 PM
I've yet to see the Anakin evolution set anywhere. I doubt the clone set will be easier to find so I ordered that on Amazon a few weeks ago. Will probably do the same with the Sith set.  :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on July 28, 2005, 08:45 PM
I'll be getting the Sith set, but only for the Palpatine really.  Will probably get two sets to open.

Maul's cloak makes him look obese.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on July 28, 2005, 09:04 PM
I think Maul's cloak was sculpted with Colman in mind! :o

 ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on July 28, 2005, 09:50 PM
I used the DCPI at  Target today and it was IN stock but the stockers said it was on the top shelf and "palatized" and could not be put on the floor.  Instead of forcing the point, I just said "Okay" and left....later I realized I should have asked when they were going to be done with Inventory so I could go back, but I didn't, at least they are in town.

Oh and on the current bend...This will be the Only Maul I have, can't wait.

I'm also looking at going broke on Clone Packs with the 2 paint jobs.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 28, 2005, 10:16 PM
After all this talk about Maul's Weight Watchers cloak, I had to see for myself, and it was worse than I imagined.  Yikes!  And they say black makes you look thinner.  :D

Well, at least I now know the first thing I'm doing when I get this set: I'm slapping the soft goods cloak from the Episode I Sith accessory set on this Maul to see how it looks.  It never fit the Episode I version(s) particularly well, but maybe this time it will work a little better.  I hope.

Am I wrong for thinking the Emperor looks incredible?  After seeing the Sith and Clone sets in the GH preview photos, I'm really disappointed that this line isn't continuing.  If they can bring this kind of quality to the basic action figure line overall, I would be a happy panda.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on July 28, 2005, 10:29 PM
Wow that is supposed to be Palpatine???
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Vator on July 28, 2005, 10:36 PM
I think Palpatine's face sculpt is amazing...if not a tad dramatic. Sorta like an exaggerated Mace confrontation face.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 1, 2005, 07:51 AM
After cracking open the Anakin Evolution set, I have to say that these sets are just outstanding. I love the detail and it just looks like Hasbro poored a lot of love and care in each one. I sincerely hope that we see more of these in the future.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog on August 1, 2005, 12:44 PM
I have enjoyed the Anakin Evolution set. I too am probably going to pass on the Sith Evolution set because I don't think $20 is worth it for just one figure I really like, Sidious/Palp. Darth Maul is not a major improvement, not major enough to justify the cost. Dooko, I agree, is not a major improvement over the ROTS. So bottom line, I'll be leaving one in the isle for someone else.

Now on the clone one, that is a different story! I cannot wait for that to show up!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Loopy_Leia on August 3, 2005, 10:10 PM
I went to one of our K-marts today and saw the Anakin Evolution pack.   Now, I wasn't too keen on those but if they had the trooper 3 pack I would have definately gotten that one.  I had never seen an Evolution pack but had noticed quite a few people on here and RS mentioning them so I had to see if I could find one.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SpudTrooper on August 4, 2005, 11:16 PM
if u see any EVO packs, i recommend getting it since all 3 figures are SA. plus it looks nice on display.  ;D

cant wait for the clone to stormtrooper pack!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Loopy_Leia on August 4, 2005, 11:50 PM
Typically where has everybody found the Evolutions packs? 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on August 5, 2005, 12:12 AM
They've been all over as of late.  First to break them was K-Mart, but I'm hearing reports from Target and Wal-Mart also getting them in...  No Toys R Us.

Also heard KB having a set here and there...  Personally, since KB's are in the mall where I rarely trek, I never hit a KB unless I have to.

Hope that helps your search...  They are indeed great looking sets.  Sets I've yet to find at all though.  :(  The fact these aren't around en masse is disturbing to me.  Even moreso about the Clone Set that obviously is going to be the hottest thing since VOTC Stormtroopers.

I'd like 2 of each...  Sith set looks amazing to me, as does Anakin's set...  I'm just bumming I can't find these.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 5, 2005, 10:33 AM
Typically where has everybody found the Evolutions packs? 

I've seen them at Target and Walmart and have had friends that picked them up at TRU and K-Mart. Target and Walmart are the cheepest.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2005, 01:17 PM
Tell you what ..I've seen anywhere from 4 to 12 of these(4 to a case) on the pallets at night to be stocked for the morning(how I got mine). However they must sell quick since I've yet to see one in the middle of the day or after the critical first hour after a store opens- are they being scalped..or are they just this popular I don't know. I've seen these at 5 out of 7 AV stores at night before close(or at the opening at Target). Hard to believe people aren't getting these yet....Man, the scalpers are running rampant in the valley or what?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Loopy_Leia on August 5, 2005, 01:36 PM
Thanks, I'll have to check out those places again, see if they got any in.  I appreciate all the help!! :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2005, 01:48 PM
Info note: AV = antelope valley- if you see my name..we have 2 big connected cities
               
                AV= Alisa Viejo if your west of the SAN Bernardino MTNS
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on August 5, 2005, 03:54 PM
I found Anakin today, and it is so incredibly awesome. Anakin's gonna look great fighting the new Obi-Wan (when I find him) on the Mustafar playset. But the Vader figure is so outstanding, it's amazing. He looks so insanely cool sitting in the meditation chamber. Brilliant!

Does anyone know if Vader's head comes off? I can't seem to get his cape off over the head. I want to take it off so he's not sitting on it in the chamber. I did notice his head is a seperate piece from the collar part of the helmet. That's a new one. Nice detail. And his face sculpted so nicely. Man, what a set!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on August 5, 2005, 09:57 PM
I found the Anakin on Wednesday and can pretty much only echo what everyone is saying.  These are VOTC quality figures and for about 7$ each.  I wish they'd make more figures just like these - and I hope they ship A LOT of the two troop varients, because I plan to buy a bunch of them, and I'm sure everyone else does to.
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Post by: Darth Slothus on August 6, 2005, 01:19 AM
Zod..like the callsign! I actually liked the movie Connery had it made in that one!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: cataclizm1 on August 6, 2005, 02:34 AM
These guys are great and come with so many accessories...too bad Hasbro forgot to include stands!  ???
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog on August 7, 2005, 12:16 PM
Now I have heard and seen a slight variation for the Anakin set. First, I got mine from Kmart and my Ep. III Anakin does not have his scars on his face. This was fixed quickly because as I have found the set at Walmart and Target, the Ep.III Anakin does have the scar. Oh well, I will stick with what I got as $20 is too much for me to spend per set to have 2 of em.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on August 7, 2005, 07:52 PM
I really like the Evo Sets....I've got no use for EpII Anakin so if anybody wanted JUST him PM me, I've got you hooked up.

I bought 2 sets, with the 2nd, I put EPII Anakins ARMS on EPIII anakin.  EPIII Anakin would have been perfection with ball jointed elbows.  Now I just need to find a good gloved hand to go on him.


Evo Vader, definately beats 500th Vader.  Any figure that had "slash" elbow articulation is way too 2004 for me.  I can get over the helmet issue. since he is EPIV Vader, I am just going to give it a touch of Super Glue.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 8, 2005, 10:13 AM
  I can get over the helmet issue. since he is EPIV Vader, I am just going to give it a touch of Super Glue.

Thats the best part about the figure.  ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on August 8, 2005, 09:04 PM
He looks so insanely cool sitting in the meditation chamber.

http://myo.homestead.com/files/Toys/EvoVader_chamber.jpg
clicky for picture

 8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 9, 2005, 11:17 AM
He looks better sitting with his cloak on than the 500 Vader himself. :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: T16skyhopp on August 12, 2005, 03:32 PM
just picked up the anakin evolution and i have more than a few complaints, that while ive heard them before im frustrated and must vent.

only 1 blue blade? wtf hasbro. What if I want to figures posed with lightsabers?

2 anakin hilts the same. You know, he did have a different hilt in ep3, its kinda the one luke gets. why didn’t they just repack the one from the fist rots anakin? is that too hard.

no ball joints on aotc anakin ankles. they’ve done this many times, i like those ankle joints. why not now?

no ball joint on rots anakin elbows... c'mon man... they so cool and the othe 2 figures have them.

no removable hand on vader. he has the rotj head. why no chopped hand? sure you can pull the plug from the swivel but thats way too far up, and has a huge ugly peg. >< nore can he hold his lighsaber in his right hand. i know theyre going for the outsteched pose, but then give us an extra hand....

vader cloak. now, i don’t love soft goods, and generally don’t prefer them at all. but most of them are tolerable. but this cape has teh same problem as the one on 500th. they make it as a half circle, so it just hangs off his neck. why can they just stitch it so it drapes over his shoulders and not look retarded. they did it with commtech vader. or if they put a wire along the bottom so you could mold it to hang straight down instead of flaining out.

vader chain. it looks good but they make it big enough to fit around his neck... and then they use the head post to hold the cape on. so the chain is three times longer than it needs to be and sticks straight out. same problem on last  2-3 vaders. >< im going to stop buying vaders soon cause they look retarded, like he cant dress himself.

helmet - maybe this is just mine but the helmet is real loose and doesn’t mesh well. just by looking at him you can tell it comes off. freeze frame vader’s looks better and stays on tighter.

maybe im nit picking but I was really excited to find this set and am now pretty disappointed.  they’re great figures so I guess I shouldn’t complain but it seems like hasbro only goes so far and then cuts back and falls short. I cant get over the one blade and 2 hilt things, as well as them not using the correct hilts.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on August 12, 2005, 05:03 PM
I noticed something really odd on Ep III Anakin. They sculpted so much bulging windpipe on the neck that he can't even tilt his head forward. He's got the great ball neck post they've been using on current figures, and the sculpt of this particular one almost completely kills the head articulation.
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Post by: SilverZ on August 12, 2005, 06:57 PM
That really bugs me, too. I've even considered filing down some of the plastic on the inside of the head socket to see if it helps. I wonder what went wrong there -- it really detracts from the figure and is a big flaw in what's otherwise the best ROTS Anakin headsculpt.

Hasbro.  ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on August 12, 2005, 08:16 PM
That really bugs me, too. I've even considered filing down some of the plastic on the inside of the head socket to see if it helps. I wonder what went wrong there -- it really detracts from the figure and is a big flaw in what's otherwise the best ROTS Anakin headsculpt.

Hasbro.  ::)

I've found it a helps a little to lift up on the back of his head a bit thereby raising it from the back, since you can't lower the front of it. At least he can look straight forward if not downward at all.

I just took Padawan Anakin out of the package. Vader and Ep III Anakin are so cool, he's been neglected since I got the set. The cloth isn't irking me quite so much anymore. The fake leather doesn't look half as bad as the ridiculous fabric cloak. Posing the ball-jointed elbows, the lack of them on the other Anakin has started to get on my nerves. But I'm thinking they may have had a reason for it. Since they gave him interchangable right arms, would ball joints have worked? That right arm joint goes up past the elbow.

I couldn't believe some people were complaining about the sabers, but it's finally ticking me off, too. Oh, we're a picky bunch, aren't we? I swapped for one from another Anakin fig. I'll live. But I can't seem to find an Anakin/Luke hilt that doesn't have a blade. I want one for Obi-Wan to hold as he stands on Mustafar, looking down at Stumpy the Flaming Boy.
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Post by: T16skyhopp on August 12, 2005, 10:26 PM
yeah, the head thing bugs me too ><
stumpy the flaming boy is quite classic ^_^
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Post by: Jim on August 14, 2005, 10:15 AM
Surprise surprise.  The Clone Evolution is pushed back once again.  Amazon is now listing a Sept. 1st release.  This makes the 5th or 6th date change.  WTF?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 14, 2005, 11:48 AM
Surprise surprise.  The Clone Evolution is pushed back once again.  Amazon is now listing a Sept. 1st release.  This makes the 5th or 6th date change.  WTF?

I know, I remember wanting to stay home and wait for UPS to roll up to my doorstep July 15th.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 14, 2005, 06:20 PM
I actually saw one of these in person yesterday at a dealer shop. But don't get excited yet. The guy who rents the case was stalking figures and such, so I asked him where he found it. He claims he has a Hasbro connection who floats him a few items now and then (I think he said rejected samples.) He also had the Rebel vs Empire and separatists 5-packs.

Anyway, needless to say I was drooling, but he wanted $35 bucks for it.
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Post by: Jeff on August 14, 2005, 09:36 PM
I actually saw one of these in person yesterday at a dealer shop. But don't get excited yet. The guy who rents the case was stalking figures and such, so I asked him where he found it. He claims he has a Hasbro connection who floats him a few items now and then (I think he said rejected samples.) He also had the Rebel vs Empire and separatists 5-packs.

A few of the asian e-tailers have actually started to get the Clone Evo sets in stock (that's how RS and GH got their samples for the photos they did) - don't get too excited, they are asking $50 each!   :o

Star Wars: Evolutions Clone Trooper to Storm Trooper 3 Pack  (http://www.action-hq.com/cgi-bin/action-hq/oth002788.html)

It could be true that he got them early from an overseas source...

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 14, 2005, 09:44 PM

they are asking $50 each!   :o


Well I think they know where they can shove that price.   >:(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 15, 2005, 11:25 AM
Over on Scum, Las Vegas and Phoenix have reported finding the Clone and the Sith Evolutions on the shelves of Walmart. Now the hunt begins for me for the Clones!
The info is under the ROTS Recent Acquisition Thread and includes pictures. Seems that the yellow clone from Ep. III's helmet does not cover his chin!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on August 15, 2005, 05:29 PM
I'm surprised to see the other two Evolution packs being found already too.  The Anakin to Vader set still hasn't shown up around here, but I'm really hoping it will pretty soon.  Wal-Mart and Target have both done their resets, but no signs of the Evolution packs yet.  They have 500th Vaders and the Jedi vs. Sith Battle Pack, but that is about it.  Oh, and the same ROTS pegwarmers ;).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on August 15, 2005, 05:49 PM
Looks like I'm caught up no more. I'll be on the lookout for the clone set...
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Post by: jadesfire on August 15, 2005, 07:18 PM
With the way these are flying off the shelves, does anyone feel that we might see more of these after all (and I might actually get my Christmas wish*)??

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on August 15, 2005, 07:52 PM
Perhaps, however I'd just like to find the 3 official ones at this point...   ::)  These have been nothing short of a bastard to find in my area, and it's frustrating beyond description for me since this is the kinda stuff that makes collecting worth it to me.

Matt's sending me one he got, but I'm watning at least 2 of each, and now I know some kids who want these sets too after seeing me look at them online...  And the Clone set I want a ton of, I'm just dreading the thoughts of trying to find it.  :(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 15, 2005, 08:07 PM
I have not even seen Anakin's set yet, nor any new waves on the pegs in 5 weeks.

Not at Target, not at WalMart, not at KMart, not at TRU, not at KB.  Nowhere.

What the hell?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on August 15, 2005, 08:26 PM
I've decided that I'm not going to go crazy army building with the Clone sets. I know they'll be a bitch to find in the first place, and the $20 price tag will be hell, especially since there's a bunch of other stuff out that I want.

Finding these will be the worst part though. I'll either have to be at the store at opening time, or find a "veteran" employee, who knows how to look things up in the back, and is nice enough to and get one.

Then there's the whole DCPI fiasco... ::)
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Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 15, 2005, 08:37 PM
I really think if the distro works on this, they won't be that hard to find. Consider that for now in the case we have 2 Sith and 2 Clone, then IF I remember right, we get 2 Anakin and 2 Clone, then a case of 4 Clones I think we'll find em.
I am hoping to find the Clones tonight or tomorrow when I make my runs to Wally, but I am passing on the Sith.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Ennis on August 15, 2005, 09:58 PM
Does anybody know what the case assortments are. All weve got around here are the Anakin packs. Are they shipping cases of 1 set each or are they mixed?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on August 15, 2005, 10:32 PM
Hmmm... we'll see what happens, but I want to get 4-5 of the Clone sets and 2 of the Sith sets... all openers of course.   :)

I have no idea what the case assortments are.   :-\

 :P

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on August 15, 2005, 11:06 PM
All I know is that the Anakin sets are currently shipping in cases of four (a full case). I have no idea what the others are, but I think there are mixes and a full case of Clones.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 15, 2005, 11:21 PM
Does anybody know what the case assortments are. All weve got around here are the Anakin packs. Are they shipping cases of 1 set each or are they mixed?

According to EE, the will be:

Wave 1 - 4 Anakins
Wave 2 - 4 Troopers
Wave 3 - 2 Troopers, 2 Sith
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on August 15, 2005, 11:37 PM
That would be an ideal ratio... I hope it holds true!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 16, 2005, 12:51 AM
Current ratios are 2 Clones and 2 Sith.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 16, 2005, 01:57 AM
Over on Scum, Las Vegas and Phoenix have reported finding the Clone and the Sith Evolutions on the shelves of Walmart. Now the hunt begins for me for the Clones!

Crud! I was just about caught up.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on August 16, 2005, 01:57 PM
Found them this morning. Man, what a great feeling to find something new that I've been dying to get. A couple assortments must be shipping because I found x4 Clones, x2 Anakins, and x2 Sith. I figure that's 2/2 Sith/Clone and 2/2 Anakin/Clone cases. They didn't have Ani's last night so they all were newly placed this morning.

I thought I'd post my initial impressions...  :)

I cracked them open and once again, like the Anakin sets, they're so, so close to being perfect figures that it's actually frustrating.

For the clones, the paint apps are perfect, especially on the AOTC one -- the carbon scoring/scuff marks are really convincing and I'm happy to see the red dust on his boots, like he's straight off Geonosis.

Even the accessory weapons are better.  The guns are a gunmetal grey plastic that have been drybrushed with aluminum highlights. They look real.  The removable helmets are a nice touch, fit well, and don't feel cheap. I think the Clone Pilot helm is a vast improvement over the Saga carded version because it has really flexible air hoses and better paint detail.

Articulation is great, with one big, glaring exception. The lack of a balljoint torso is really, really missed. It keeps the figures from being ultimately poseable. Once you're used to the superior SA Clone body, you can only be disappointed that it hasn't been modified for use on these guys. The AOTC and Sandtrooper don't even have waist articulation -- their torsos are one solid piece from the pelvis to the neck. The ROTS version gets a swivel waist for some reason. Not having the separation of the upper and lower sections also reduces the realistic appearance of the armor. It feels cheap and plasticy on a figure that otherwise is startlingly detailed and realistic. So, so close.

The same can be said of the Sith Lords. Great detail, solid sculpts, and a few articulation missteps that prevent them from being perfect. If these weren't probably our best shots at "ultimate" figures, it would be easier to overlook the minor flaw. But since these should be ultimate versions, the small instances of articulation skimping stand out as glaring problems.

Maul is nearly perfect (if you're ok with the gritting teeth) except, again, for the articulation. He has swivel elbows instead of much needed balljoints. Otherwise, he's the best Maul ever.

Dooku isn't really an improvement over the carded version so he's the oddball of the set. There's nothing wrong with him, but we already had a perfect Dooku.

I was prepared to hate the Emperor. I was shocked that I actually dig him! He is actually quite short, so he seems in scale, where from pictures and Cons in past, he seemed tall. He has balljoint elbows, shoulders, and knees. He can actually sit down. The soft goods cloak is fantastic. They've used a separate plastic choker for the neck, so you can control how much hood rises above the neck, which helps make it fit right both unhooded and hooded. When you move the hood up, you can pull cloth tight under the plastic collar to make the hood sit snugly to his head instead of ballooning out. Really impressive thought went into the soft goods on him. I can't wait to see if the standard ROTS Emperor head can be swapped onto the body, because if it can, there's an easy custom seated Emperor with a neutral face. Good times.

I should have the sets added to the Image Database tonight.



Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 16, 2005, 03:16 PM
Reading your reveiw seriously gets me excited to get my hands on these!  I was trying to decide whether to buy one set (just carded/boxed) or two sets (carded and loose), but I think you just made up my mind on these.  It sounds like it would be a crime not to have a set to open.   8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on August 16, 2005, 05:56 PM
Would you say that the Clone set is worth Army Building with if we have a lot of SA Clones and VOTC Stormies?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on August 17, 2005, 02:30 AM
Honestly, I don't think so. The ROTS one is too individual and since the AOTC one is a commander, he seems a bit limited too. I'm going to open a second set to make have an improved Clone Pilot, but I think that's it. Same will probably go for the white variant set when it hits.

Also, I'm more disappointed with the Sandtrooper than when I first looked him over. I took some pictures tonight, and you can see by the poses I put him in that he's just not that flexible.

Clone Evolutions set (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Evolutions/Clone_Trooper_to_Stormtrooper)

EDIT: Though, if you can Dremmel a slot for the backpack on a VOTC Stormie, you could probably make easy SA clean Sandtroopers since the pauldron pops off easily.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on August 17, 2005, 02:52 AM
Those pics look great, they're showing some nice details on the Sandtrooper. I think the problem with his flexibility is the same issue with the SA Clones. The way the armor is designed, it inhibits the joints at certain points where they can't physically move any further. I could be wrong though, I've not been lucky to find a set yet. With that said, I think these certainly can be something you'd want to army build with, since essentially in one 3 pack, you could make at least 6 unique figures. I hope to find 2 of each variant and call it a day, but I'm sure many will want to get as many as they can get their hands on.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on August 17, 2005, 02:54 AM
I army build Commanders, so the set's good AB fodder to me...  That variation of it's far better though in my view.  A white E2 Clone, a different Commander, and Sandtrooper "grunts" (or at least a rank lower than white and orange) are enough incentive to me.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 17, 2005, 03:11 AM
Tydirium,

Thanks for the pictures. Still hunting hard to find this in Utah and hope it hits in the next couple of days.
This will sound weird but would like your opinion. I looked at the Sandtrooper and it looks like he smeared his armor in Bantha Poodo.  Is it the picture or is the paint job such that it looks smeared? Doesn't change that I want the set but just wondering.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on August 17, 2005, 04:49 AM
Thanks for the pics.  The clones look great.  I think the big thing for me (besides the variant set, which is really where it's at) is the inclusion of the pilot helmet.  That's really the extra mile for Hasbro and I'm glad they did it.

I wish they had waist articulation, too, but since I'll only buy one of each clone set, I'm cool with it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on August 17, 2005, 05:11 AM
I totally lucked upon a couple of Clone sets at a WM today too (no Sith though)...  8)

And, yeah, nice pix Jared!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Evolutions/Clone_Trooper_to_Stormtrooper/evo_cl_group.jpg)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Vator on August 17, 2005, 07:10 AM
The Wal-Mart on the westside of town just did their reset, and I was able to score the Anakin Evolution set...along with a case load of Japanese Infantry.  :D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 17, 2005, 11:06 AM
I've heard reports of these hitting my area as well. Oh, well, no rest for my weary wallet. :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on August 17, 2005, 05:11 PM
I looked at the Sandtrooper and it looks like he smeared his armor in Bantha Poodo.  Is it the picture or is the paint job such that it looks smeared? Doesn't change that I want the set but just wondering.

It looks like that in person.  :-\

And that's what it looks like to me, too -- dookie. Though it may be Dewback Dung. Hard to tell, but it sure isn't sand. I know, because sand is coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. But it never smears.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on August 17, 2005, 08:33 PM
I looked at the Sandtrooper and it looks like he smeared his armor in Bantha Poodo.

You do what you like, I'll do what I like.

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 18, 2005, 10:04 AM
Maybe he's some sort of German fetish stormtrooper. Why wasn't Cartman's mom included in this set?

I finally found the Anakin evolution set last night, and I'm loving these sets. What an excellent set! I really hope this line sells, because I think this line has a great deal of potential. I would love to have a bounty hunter set, with a super-articulated removeable helmet Jango Fett. Or even a "villains" set with a taller, sturdier (plastic) Greivous with a softgoods (and correctly colored) cape.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on August 18, 2005, 06:44 PM
Sith & Clone/Stormtrrooper now available… a little spendy though

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104136;category_id=;pcid1=;pcid2=
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on August 18, 2005, 10:40 PM
Wow. 54.99? That's some scalpy love from SWS there.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on August 19, 2005, 10:31 AM
Sith & Clone/Stormtrrooper now available… a little spendy though

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104136;category_id=;pcid1=;pcid2=

Did everyone notice the last line of that page?

"With more Evolutions series planned, start your collection today with this great bundled pair available now!"
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 19, 2005, 10:40 AM
Sith & Clone/Stormtrrooper now available… a little spendy though

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104136;category_id=;pcid1=;pcid2=

Did everyone notice the last line of that page?

"With more Evolutions series planned, start your collection today with this great bundled pair available now!"

Further evidence that the SW shop doesn't know anything about the product they're selling.

BTW, Newforcecomics is selling the Clone/Sith set for retail plus shipping.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 19, 2005, 12:39 PM
Grabbed the Sith and Clone sets at WalMart last night.

These two sets are GREAT!

The only complaint I have is that the removeable clone helmets are made from the same soft plastic they've made all removeable clone helmets from. I would prefer that the helmet be more sturdy.

The Darth Maul robe looks ridiculous, but that doesn't matter at all to me, I'm never going to display him with it. The interesting thing about Maul is that they put a plug-hole for a lightsaber on his belt, but didn't make his dual blade lightsaber w/removable blades and a pin to fit that hole.

I looked all around the packaging to make sure I didn't miss the blade-less saber, but it's not in there. Odd.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 19, 2005, 02:01 PM
As I mentioned in the finds thread, I found the Sith and Clone sets at a local WM earlier today, and overall, I am extremely pleased with the sets as a whole. 

The Clone set is just amazing, and I really hope that the running change on these sets are shipped in cases by themselves (or at least with more of these colors) because these are just great.  I honestly can't think of a single complaint with them, since the lack of waist joints on two of the three figures don't really bother me at all.  This is top notch quality work from Hasbro (did I say that out loud?) and everyone should get one.

The Sith set's only sore points with me are Maul (in general) and Dooku's cape.  I don't know if this is just mine or not, but Dooku's cape wasn't sewn together at the hem (the bottom) and as such, he has what amounts to two separate capes (one dark, one light) instead of one (think of the stitching on the VOTC and POTJ Landos and you'll see what I mean).  My mother the sewing queen, however, states that she can fix this easily, so Dooku will be making my next trip home with me. :)

Maul, however, falls short in so many areas it's not even funny.  First of all, the cape is just laughably bad when you have it on him.  Not even the photos do this monstrosity justice.  And since Maul has this evil grin, it is guaranteed to induce laughter in British Palace Guards.  This is also easily remedied by throwing the Episode I Sith accessory pack cloth cloak on him (which I haven't done yet), but the lightsaber is what gets me.  Not only is it seemingly a straight reissue of the lightsaber included with the Episode I Jedi Duel Maul from 1999 (meaning it's way too short and has no "flare" at the emitter discs), but like Pete said, there is a hole on his belt for a hilt, but no lightsaber hilt to hang on it, nor are the blades of the 1999 lightsaber removable.  And then there is the lack of ball-jointed elbows, which in my mind there is no excuse for other than Hasbro intentionally holding back so they can throw a truly SA Maul into the "Battle of Naboo" wave next year.  Shame, Hasbro, shame.   :P

That being said, though, he's still the best Maul they've done, and the Dooku is also top notch.  Palpatine, though, is the winner in this set and again, photos do not do this guy justice (not a knock on your skills, Jared, but this is truly a figure you have to see in person to appreciate fully).  A cane he can hold (a first for modern Palpatines, I think), a lightsaber, hands with the lightning attached instead of the usual "sleeve lightning", and a soft goods cloak with an adjustable hood?  BEST.  PALPATINE.  EVER.  And I honestly don't think that there is a way that Hasbro could possibly top this.  It is the definitive Emperor/Darth Sidious figure and save a SA Senate Battle Palpatine/Sidious, no other Palpatine need be made ever again.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 19, 2005, 05:18 PM
Maybe I'll luck out and find them one day, since I'm continuing to go to
the WalMarts on the wrong nights. But since the clones are in 3 different waves ..perhaps I'll see one ..hopefully. >:( :( :'(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on August 19, 2005, 09:53 PM
Anakin Set at OMGCNFO (http://www.omgcnfo.com/cgi-bin/cart/shop.cgi?cmd=653569054962)

I'm going to be searching the stores this weekend for the Clone and Sith sets...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 20, 2005, 11:38 AM
Found 2 Clones last night but the other 2 in the case were Anakins not the Sith  :'( 
I need to find 3 more, 1 for my son, and 2 for fellow collectors, and then 1 Sith set for me.
Overall, I love my open set of Clones. The chin thing is annoying to me, and I do miss the waist articulation, but overall I am extremely happy with them!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on August 20, 2005, 11:50 AM
Sith & Clone/Stormtrrooper now available… a little spendy though

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104136;category_id=;pcid1=;pcid2=

Did everyone notice the last line of that page?

"With more Evolutions series planned, start your collection today with this great bundled pair available now!"

Yes, I hope there are actually more of these sets planned and not just the ones we know about. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on August 20, 2005, 02:07 PM
I   think it would be cool to see a : Queen of Naboo evo set from Amidala, jamilla (ep2) to the ep3 queen;
Then a Padme set from ep1, 2 and 3 - though deciding which outfit to use would be very hard;
as has been stated before an obi-wan evo set padawan, master and old ben;
c-3p0 from ep1,    ep2 and finally polished.
Then the only other major character who really evolves is Luke from farm boy (ep4), bespin or dagobah (ep5) to finally jedi luke (ep6).
Naturally all of these need to have superb articulation, very good likenesses and a fair amount of accessories.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on August 21, 2005, 03:17 AM
Thanks to our own JediMAC, I finally got an Anakin set...

Holy **** this is great.  Not without flaw, but great...  The packaging is probably the best I've ever seen,a nd these sets prove Hasbro can put out superb quality at a very fair price.  I mean, this packaging is about 100x more elaborate than VOTC, and 3 figures with a lot of gear for $20 is a deal compared to $30 for 3 VOTC figures.

Some skimping here and there, and some of it is incredibly lame and inexcuseable.  Also, some areas that could've been skimped to save cash in production weren't and there's a sense that if done intelligently you could get "more" out of these as far as quality, but in the end I have to say that these sets are still great...  or at least this one is.

Thanks Matt, a TON!  Now I only need to find 2 more Anakin sets for the kids, one or two more for me, and then onto all the Sith and Clone sets I want.  Oh joy, oh joy, especially when I couldn't find a goddam Anakin set on my own.   ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on August 21, 2005, 07:50 AM
I didn't know people were having trouble findind these.  They are everywhere here, even TRU has them.  Target has about a dozen and WM has so many they have a pile on the floor on an end cap.

I have not seen any Clones or Sith yet but it is still early.  I still have not decided to buy Anakin's or the Sith one.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on August 21, 2005, 01:23 PM
I picked up the Sith and Clone Trooper sets the other day.  I finally had the opportunity to open them up yesterday and I have to say, I'm thoroughly impressed.  These figures are definitely on par with the VOTC line.  I sincerely hope these do well enough for Hasbro to consider a future for this line.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 21, 2005, 03:35 PM
Nick, if they don't continue this line, especially given the (seemingly) universal praise and lauding that Evolutions is getting, it will baffle me more than any other decision they haven't made over the years.  There are so many possibilities with the line that could be explored, and to cut it short after three sets would be a real disappointment.

Now that we've gotten a "perfect" VOTC-level Obi-Wan from ROTS in the Pilot figure, they could do an Evolutions set with Episode I Padawan Obi-Wan, Episode II Jedi Knight Obi-Wan, and Episode IV Jedi Master Obi-Wan without them worrying about three Ewan McGregors in a box.  Give them all soft goods cloaks, lightsaber hilts, lightsabers, an aquatic breather for TPM Kenobi, pilot headset and handcuffs/chain for AOTC Kenobi, a blast shield helmet and seeker droid (with clear stand, ala the Sith Probe Droid) for ANH Kenobi, and you've got a great set on your hands.

A Threepio Evolutions set could include SA versions of TPM Threepio, AOTC Threepio, and ESB/ROTJ Threepio.  Throw in an assembly required Ewok Throne, a backpack for Chewbacca, a Battle Droid head and blaster, and maybe a Pit Droid, and you've got another great set.

And then there is Padme, and that just has a ton of possibilities for figures.  From my figuring, we've still got at least 4 costumes from TPM, 10 from AOTC, and all but one from ROTS.  If they did this as a "Portrait Edition in 3.75 Scale" set, accessories could be minimal and it would still be worth the 20 dollar price it would carry.

Luke, I think SA versions of Ceremonial Luke, Bespin Luke, and Endor Luke, with lightsabers, hilts, blasters, removable helmet, soft goods poncho, and cuffs would be a dream come true.

My other (pipe dream) wish would be for a Bounty Hunters Evolutions pack with an SA Aurra Sing (with blaster pistols and rifle), an SA Jango Fett (with removable helmet, switchable backpacks, blasters, and pilot headset), and an SA Boba Fett (VOTC sculpt with ESB colors and a removable helmet). 

As can be seen from everyone else's lists and mine, there are still a lot of possibilities here and a lot of demand for them.  Let's hope Hasbro is listening/paying attention.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on August 21, 2005, 07:09 PM
I'd love to see all those, and I'd be up for the Obi Wan set with a ANH version of him like you said, now that they've aced the ROTS one (which I still haven't found yet).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 21, 2005, 08:32 PM
Any one done a review on the Sith Evolution Set? Still trying to decide whether to buy it or not. I do like the fact that for the first time you get Sith lightning come out of the fingers, but I am interested in deciding whether to get this or an ARC-170 for my son . . . . and me . . . . who really want it (both).  Thoughts?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 21, 2005, 09:18 PM
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Any one done a review on the Sith Evolution Set?

Apologies in advance if I'm stepping on Jesse's toes here but I'll give you a quick and dirty review of the Sith Evolutions set (and will answer questions if you have any afterwards) so you'll know what you're getting into:

MAUL:  Articulated at neck (ball joint), shoulders (ball joints), elbows (cut), wrists (cut), waist (cut), hips (cut), knees (ball joints), and ankles (ball joint).  Soft goods "skirt" with rubbery skirt on outside (along the lines of the Evolutions Anakins).  Sculpt-wise, this is, IMO, the best Maul that has been done.

MAUL ACCESSORIES: Episode I era double bladed saber (no "flare" on blade, short unremovable blades); binoculars (on first glance the same as the Trophy Edition Maul's binocs); Sith Probe Droid with clear stand (on first glance the same as the 2002 Saga Sith Apprentice Maul's SPD), and a rubberish cloak that is far too large and bulky, making Maul look ridiculous.

MAUL OVERALL: 4 out of 5 for the figure itself (ball jointed elbows would have pushed it to a 5), 2 out of 5 for the accessories (which are, with one exception, straight out of 1999)

DOOKU: Articulated at head (ball joint), shoulders (ball joints), elbows (ball joints), wrists (cut), waist (cut), hips (cut), knees (ball joints), and ankles (ball joints).  Hands are removable.  Soft goods skirt and cape.  My cape halves weren't sewn together at the bottom but this is easily fixed with a needle and thread, I'm told.  Looks really good on his knees and handless with Evolutions Anakin "at his throat."

DOOKU ACCESSORIES: Lightsaber (same as we've seen all along, but the proper red instead of clearish pink), Sith Lightning hands (lightning is attached to the fingers of the hands).

DOOKU OVERALL: Best Dooku ever (arguably) and the accessories are great (especially the lightning which is the best looking Sith Lightning that has ever been done).  5 out of 5.

PALPATINE:  Articulated at neck (ball joint), shoulders (ball joints), elbows (ball joints), wrists (cut), waist (cut), hips (cut), knees (ball joints), and ankles (ball joints).  Soft goods "skirt" with plenty of room so he can sit down.  Soft goods cloak is tied for the best cloak ever done with a SW toy (the other is, predictably, Evolutions ROTS Anakin), and possibly best by itself, as it has a "neckpiece" that you can adjust the way the hood itself lays. 

PALPATINE ACCESSORIES: Lightsaber (looks great, as always), cane (which he can actually hold; the first modern Palpy that can do so correctly and securely), and aforementioned lightning hands. 

PALPATINE OVERALL: A big 5 out of 5.  Sculpting is incredible, the articulation couldn't be better, the cloak is great, and the accessories are appropriately cool (best Sith Lightning ever!).  Best Palpatine that has ever been done and probably ever will be done.  The only thing missing is his throne. :)

SET RATING OVERALL:  Like all the Evolutions stuff, a huge 5 out of 5.  Well worth the 20 bucks, and well worth the hunt.  When the best Darth Maul figure ever is your weakest part of the set, you know it's pretty great. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2005, 08:59 AM
The Evolutions sets have finally started to show up around here, only the Anakin to Vader set so far though.  I was quite happy to find one this past weekend though.  Both Target(s) and Wal-mart seemed to have them in, and in fairly good quantities on Saturday.  I'm hoping we'll see the other two packs show up pretty soon as well.  I haven't had the chance to open up the Anakin set yet, but from the "outside" it really does look great.  This is definitely a concept I hope Hasbro continues, especially with the suggestions listed earlier in this thread.  The Obi-Wan one would be great, and like mentioned, could include an Alec Guiness version now since we've gotten a great ROTS Obi-Wan (which hasn't shown around here yet either).  I also really like the ideas of the Padme, C-3PO, and Luke sets.  There is really quite a bit of potential with these, and they seem to be a better deal overall than the VOTC figures.  I think they could do some nice Han Solo, Princess Leia, and of course, Storm/Hoth/Scout trooper sets.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nicklab on August 22, 2005, 09:05 AM
Nick, if they don't continue this line, especially given the (seemingly) universal praise and lauding that Evolutions is getting, it will baffle me more than any other decision they haven't made over the years.  There are so many possibilities with the line that could be explored, and to cut it short after three sets would be a real disappointment.

My concerns are based on what happened with the Unleashed line.  That line seemed to be universally lauded, and yet Hasbro bailed on it.  Why?  It was a cost VS earnings issue.  They're going to make decisions based on that sometimes, and not a line's perceived popularity.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on August 22, 2005, 09:48 AM
Unfortunately I think like Nick.  Hasbro terminates lines that sell well and are collector friendly, rather than kid friendly.  I know kids like the Evo line but lat weekend I saw first hand where parents told the kids (in 2 diff stores) to pick four different figures instead of the anakin 3-pack. 

I always thought of the Unleashed line as a big improvement over the Epic Force "line" and that they would stay around forever.  But that didn't happen.  The evolutions line seems like something where we will get those 3, maybe 2 more sets and BLAM its over.  To be honest, in central Ohio we have not seen the Clones and Sith and it is because of the dozens upons dozens of Anakin sets.  They are bigger shelve warmers than those battle sets with the spinning figures or the Mustafar playset (which I like, even though it is super simple)

I hope Hasbro proves me wrong
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 22, 2005, 10:27 AM
I couldn't wait wait to bust open the clone set when I got it home. Overall, the set is great and very high quallity and it's praise is well justified. However, I just wanted to throw out a couple of nit-picker observations that do detract slightly from these guys.

First, Jared is right about the lack of waist articulation on both the AOTC clone and the sandie. Why was this done? Who knows? I also felt that the hands on the Sandtrooper should have been rescuplted to better carry his weapon. It takes a bit of work for it fit in. Finally, the neck on the ROTS clone could have been a bit longer to fit the helmet better.

I think all of these have been mentioned somewhere before, but I just wanted throw in my concuring opinion.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on August 22, 2005, 01:20 PM
As an example of why Canadians are so whiny....

Recent report over on snowtroopers.ca regarding the evolutions packs.  Only the Anakin-Vader set has shown up, but it has sold quite well with a couple of restocks happening and collectors buying them up. 

The price is pretty stupid if you ask me, $29.99 before taxes and Canada is tax mad so nearly $35 after the government plunges you.  For three figures and about 0.0743 ounces of extra plastic accessories, but in a nice window box.  Relative to Canadian retail (TRU is the only one carrying these sets so far) that's not horrific (well, in certain respects) in that TRU charges $9.99 for a basic figure anyway.  From that perspective it's not an unfair price.  Ahem. 

So now comes word that TRU has jacked the price up to $34.99 BEFORE taxes, totalling nearly $40 after taxes :o  Three figures that should retail at $9.99 each at worst now cost even more.  Why?  Same reason as happened with the bounty hunter four pack - they sold well ::) >:(

Is it any wonder we whine or beg for assistance so much?  (anyone have any spare clone evolution packs?  or Sith? ;))
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 22, 2005, 04:07 PM
My concerns are based on what happened with the Unleashed line.  That line seemed to be universally lauded, and yet Hasbro bailed on it.  Why?  It was a cost VS earnings issue.  They're going to make decisions based on that sometimes, and not a line's perceived popularity.

By that standard though, shouldn't the Force Battlers line be abandoned as well?  In the countless stores across several states I've been in since the ROTS product launch, Unleashed is selling much better than the FB figures, and with more FB figures coming out day after day, doesn't the cost of tooling a more articulated 10 dollar figure end up being more than the tooling of a non-articulated 15 dollar figure?  Hasbro frequently uses the excuse that "articulation = higher prices", so by that rationale, the Unleashed line should actually be cheaper to sculpt/tool than the Force Battlers.  Anyway, that's neither here nor there and is detracting from the topic, so I digress.

My main point with this is that the Evolutions sets are selling very well right now, and even the first Anakin to Vader set is still moving briskly.  The case pack ratios seem to make sense at the present time, and the future case packs with all Clones and a running change/variant set of Clones is going to keep interest.  The figures are (more or less) universally lauded by collectors and fans, and when combined with the great sales of the three sets, I think that Hasbro would be crazy not to continue with the line.

Even if the cost-benefit analysis Nick correctly references does tend to lean toward the side of Hasbro putting forth a lot of money in development costs in the short run, I honestly think it would be more beneficial for them in the long run to spend money on tooling Evolutions-level figures than it would to waste finances and resources on items that just will not sell outside of a very select crowd (like the rumored Choppers or the 2 inch "Not Unleashed" Battle Packs). 

If the two examples I mention bomb horribly at retail (and they will, I think), then Hasbro put forth all that development and money for nothing.  However, if a figure is developed and put into an Evolutions pack, not only will Hasbro be able to exploit the sculpt/mold for that set, but they will also be able to use it as a basic carded figure in the future when they need to do their recard/reissue stuff.  And if I were a beginning collector, I'd much rather get a Palpatine from the Evolutions Sith set as a regular carded figure than I would a ROTS or Saga Emperor figure.  In my own opinion, the 9 Evolutions figures in these three packs are pretty much the definitive versions of these characters, and Hasbro could and should just use them as the rehash versions from here on out.

So, like I said, the cost-benefit analysis might be less money for Hasbro's investment right now, but in the long run, they could get many miles out of these molds and sculpts in the future if they intend on taking this until 2018 or whatever.  Of course, this is all my opinion.



Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on August 23, 2005, 12:23 PM
Some a friend of mine suggested at another board:

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New ones I'd like,  (All Super-Articulated)

General Grievous:

EU: Kaleesh Warrior/General (Soft goods, and rifle.)

(http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/comics/img/20050214_6_bg.jpg)

EU: Post-Shuttle Crash Grievous before the suit. (W/  Bacta Tank.)

(http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/comics/img/20050214_5_bg.jpg)

ROTS: General Grievous (Soft goods and electrostaff w/ electro effect.)

Viceroy Nute Gunray:

TPM: Nute Gunray (with Neimoidian Mechno-Chair & Mechno-Hologram Projector w/ Mini Darth Sidious Hologram, soft goods, and a removable hat.)
AOTC: Nute Gunray (with soft goods and a removable hat.)
ROTS: Nute Gunray (with Darth Sidious Hologram, soft goods, and a removable hat.)


Battle Droid:

TPM: Battle Droid: (with interchangle heads, arms, and torsos for Security, Pilot, and Commander Battle Droids, a blaster, and mini Nute & Rune holograms.)
AOTC: Super Battle Droid
ROTS: IG-100 MagnaGuard (soft goods, and electrostaff with electro effect.)


The Queens of Naboo:  (w/ Throne)

TPM: Queen Amidala (soft goods)
AOTC:: Queen Jamillia (soft goods)
ROTS: Queen Apailana (soft goods)


Confederacy Organic Infantry:

EU: Gossam Commando (w/ Battle Droid blaster)
EU: Koorivar Fusilier (w/ Battle Droid blaster)
ROTS: Neimoidian Gunner (New sculpt w/ super articulation, and correct size rifle.)

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on August 23, 2005, 01:47 PM
While neat ideas...those would never sell. 

Obi-Wan, Padme, C-3PO, Luke, Han and Leia would be good guesses... :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Scott on August 23, 2005, 01:50 PM
Padme:

Return to Naboo/Qui-Gon Funeral, Picnic or Fireplace and any of the unmade Episode III

Obi-Wan:

Episode I SA, Episode II SA, Episode III SA

All with high quality removable robes and all of the neat gadgets (head gear, clone armor, etc)

C-3PO:

Episode I SA, Episode II SA, Episode III SA

With ******* articulated knees...how long do we have to ask for this before they finally do it????

I'd also love...

Princess Leia

ANH...full length Soft Good robe, Hoth SA and Endor SA

Luke
Stormtrooper Disguise, Snowspeeder Pilot, Endor SA

Han
Stormtrooper Disguise, Carbon Freeze Chamber, Endor SA

Stormtrooper
Stormtrooper (VOTC), Hoth Snowtrooper SA, Scout Trooper SA
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on August 23, 2005, 05:27 PM
I think the Battledroid one could be a winner...  I'm not sure I'd include the Magna Guard, but instead the ultimate Destroyer Droid (One that they got as close as possible to "folding", or included interchangeable parts so you could get him to fold).

I'd also like a Rebel Trooper set... 

-Tantive IV, Hoth, and Endor...  The army builder sets would have me shelling out the cash like there's no tomorrow.  *sigh*
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on August 23, 2005, 05:39 PM
I'd also like a Rebel Trooper set... 

-Tantive IV, Hoth, and Endor...  The army builder sets would have me shelling out the cash like there's no tomorrow.  *sigh*

As long as they have alternate heads...  one thing I can't stand is having my army builders all have the same heads!  I mean it's fine for Imp Troopers with Helmets, but for guys like the hoth dude or endor dude it would suck to have a bunch of the same guy - they aren't clones after all!

Now, the way to really do it up right would be to pack in 3 alternate head sculpts and then make ALL six of the heads (3 on the troopers and the 3 extras) interchangable!

Then, you could buy 6 of Jesse's proposed Rebel Trooper sets and have six "unique" troopers for each movie (tantive,hoth,endor) without having to chase down a bunch of corps figures for customs/head-swaps!

Jeff
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on August 24, 2005, 03:12 AM
I'd be A-O-K withthat. :)

Also, I'm not sure everyone agrees but I noticed that 21st's Marines have a repaint series (from green fatigues to pacific theater camo), but the heads all got a new paintjob too.  Some look the same but with maybe stubble/5-day beards, while others are a COMPLETE repaint.  New skintone (tanner), new hair color completely, new eye color...  It's amazing what just a different paintjob on the hair can do to make a figure look 100% different.  That'd be pretty neat to see on more figures IMO.

I'd kind of like to see that pop up more often really.

But I agree wholeheartedly on interchangeable heads and the like too...  3 unique sculpts and interchangeable between all 3 bodies?  That's a great idea Jeff.

The Rebel set's a dream right now...  Be great if it'd happen.  I'd go broke buying them, but it'd be great. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 24, 2005, 03:17 AM
After looking at my sith evolutions( not opened) I agree with the Doctor about Palp's paint application ;D. Damn this fig looks good! The only thing I find comical is that his face looks more like he's trying to push out a log then getting fierce and angry. LOL IMO ;)

The Paint application on the Sandtrooper DOES look like Bantha Poodoo. LOL he looks like smeared in TP. Maybe..just Maybe he was riding a Dewback then fell asleep on the job, fell out of his saddle and caught his foot in the stirrup and was dragged for miles being ..(you guessed it-crapped on as well)  before a comrade stopped his dewback to let it know he was using his master as TP!

could happen.. ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on August 26, 2005, 01:29 PM
I picked up the Sith & Clone Evo packs today; what's wrong with this photo.

(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/evotypo.jpg)

Rebublic?

Wanted: Hasbro proofreader, must be able to run spell check function in design software. Must have 3rd grade educational level.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 26, 2005, 01:42 PM
Yup, the Rebublic gub'mint.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on August 26, 2005, 11:46 PM
Na na na, gonna have a good time...  hey hey hey!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: jokabofe on September 6, 2005, 01:45 AM
I didn't read through this entire thread, so sorry if this has already been discussed... but why on earth would they give the Episode 3 version of Anakin some nice boots with ankle articulation but not use the same boots on the Episode 2 version? He's wearing the same goddamn boots for ****'s sake.

Senseless.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: evenflow on September 6, 2005, 03:39 PM
I found the Clone set, anyone find the other version?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on September 6, 2005, 09:15 PM
I didn't read through this entire thread, so sorry if this has already been discussed... but why on earth would they give the Episode 3 version of Anakin some nice boots with ankle articulation but not use the same boots on the Episode 2 version? He's wearing the same goddamn boots for ****'s sake.

Senseless.

Just to piss you off :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 6, 2005, 09:19 PM
Still no luck finding the Clone Evolutions in stores... but look here -

http://www.dnstoys.com/

$21.99 each, and in stock as of 8:15 PM Central Time!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 6, 2005, 09:30 PM
Still no luck finding the Clone Evolutions in stores... but look here -

http://www.dnstoys.com/

$21.99 each, and in stock as of 8:15 PM Central Time!

 :P

What price have these been selling for (WM, TRU, etc) in the US?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 6, 2005, 09:34 PM
From what I've seen with the Anakin sets, here's a breakdown of retail pricepoints (at least in my area) -

Walmart - $19.54
Target - $19.99
Kmart - $24.49
TRU - haven't seen them there

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on September 6, 2005, 10:27 PM
Here's what I found for Clone and Sith in Utah:

Walmart: $19.76
TRU $19.99
Target $19.99

At Kmart I have only seen the Anakin. It was $21.99.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 7, 2005, 02:49 AM
And since this is at the top I thought I'd reiterate that I have STILL yet to see ANY Evoulution set on the shelves.  Not one.  Not even Anakin who I know hit at KM's here but I never saw.

Killin' me here...  Just killin' me.  All the best stuff is always nye on impossible to find for me.  I gotta get my sets of these and soon or I'm gonna burst a blood vessel. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on September 7, 2005, 10:06 AM
And since this is at the top I thought I'd reiterate that I have STILL yet to see ANY Evoulution set on the shelves.  Not one.  Not even Anakin who I know hit at KM's here but I never saw.

Killin' me here...  Just killin' me.  All the best stuff is always nye on impossible to find for me.  I gotta get my sets of these and soon or I'm gonna burst a blood vessel. 

That's why I preordered the clone evo set from EE with a buddy of mine. I guess its 4 sets in total, so we both get 2. Jesse, so far I'e only seen the anakin set once. Are you still looking for it? I could keep an eye out for it if you're still looking for it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 7, 2005, 10:47 AM
I've seen all three sets around here a few times. They go pretty quickly. I skipped the sith lord set. It just didn't appeal to me.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on September 7, 2005, 11:08 AM
The Anakin sets were here a couple of weeks ago, and have since disappeared.  No sign of the Clone or Sith sets, and I'm starting to get tempted to look online for the Clone one.  I have it "preordered" through Amazon, but we all know how that goes :).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 7, 2005, 11:47 AM
The Anakin set is the only set that I've seen more than once, and even it doesn't show up all that often in my area. 

Wal-Mart is the only place that has gotten the Anakin set on a semi-regular basis, and it's one of those "one day and gone" items to say the least.  Target got one case of the Anakin set and has never restocked (par for the Target course around here) Evolutions at all.  K-Mart got the one case of Anakins back at the very beginning and since then nothing at all. 

TRU.com is pretty much useless at this point for preordering anything from the SW line, I think.  After my Unleashed fiasco and Obi-Wan JSF debacle with them, and the fact that the Anakin set is still "not yet released" after two months or so at retail, I'm not going to be preordering anything from them anytime soon.

Has there been any recent information/updates on the variant Clone Evolutions set (boxed photos, overseas "leaks", release timetables, etc)?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 7, 2005, 01:34 PM
I havn't seen anything official but I'm thinking we'll see it post september 15th  ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on September 7, 2005, 03:11 PM
From yesterday, but Hasbro (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.news/newsID.18718805-D56F-E112-4F017C98E56F721A/default.cfm) updates with information the Clone to Storm/Sandtrooper Evolutions set.  When I saw the headline of "Evolution Continues..." I was really hoping it was beyond the 3 sets (plus variant) that we already knew about ;).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on September 7, 2005, 03:50 PM
I havn't seen anything official but I'm thinking we'll see it post september 15th  ;)

What happens on September 15?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 7, 2005, 05:18 PM
Nothing..LOL-that's just when I think it will show up or right around there-hey it's good to have hope! ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on September 8, 2005, 06:34 PM
I got some clone Evo sets this morning.  All excited about it I opened them up when I got off work and was shocked at what I found.  Both sets had the EPII clone with a ****ed up arm.

Both arms are left arms on both figures.  So the elbow in the right hand is on the front instead of the back.  So basically they can hold a gun and point it backwards at the same time.

All I have to say is what the **** Hasbro???

I'm going to keep them until I find two others and then replace them, I am so pist off.


Is this s common error or was I the only one to get stock with the crap case.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 8, 2005, 06:37 PM


Both arms are left arms on both figures.  So the elbow in the right hand is on the front instead of the back.  So basically they can hold a gun and point it backwards at the same time.


And you're sure someone didn't get into those sets and do that, then return them?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on September 8, 2005, 07:27 PM
That is possible but then that person would have 2 AOTC clones with 2 right arms each.

That is equally bad.

 :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 9, 2005, 12:02 AM
Lando,

I have 1 Anakin set so I'm looking for multiple Clone sets (obviously), at least 2 Sith sets, and 1 more Anakin set.  Yeah, got my work cut out for me.

Hasbro made great sets with these, and I even like the packaging enough that I'm not tossing it for certain.  It's great.  Then they don't seemingly get them to retail in any quantity at all.  Unbelievable.  I can't imagine they would not push these at least as hard as the VOTC were, but so far they seem just like a real bitch to track down.  I'm workin' on it though out here but retail's dead once again.  WM's are empty and only Target's seemingly stocking much right now.  Go figure.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 9, 2005, 10:47 AM
I had to order my Clone sets from dnstoys.com, but they're not in yet.

Gatillo, man that sucks about your Clones.  I am very sorry to hear that.   :(

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on September 9, 2005, 01:18 PM
I take a small level of comfort in that these are pilot clones and it I put them in gunships then the arm thing does not matter.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on September 9, 2005, 03:36 PM
Lando,

I have 1 Anakin set so I'm looking for multiple Clone sets (obviously), at least 2 Sith sets, and 1 more Anakin set.  Yeah, got my work cut out for me.

Hasbro made great sets with these, and I even like the packaging enough that I'm not tossing it for certain.  It's great.  Then they don't seemingly get them to retail in any quantity at all.  Unbelievable.  I can't imagine they would not push these at least as hard as the VOTC were, but so far they seem just like a real bitch to track down.  I'm workin' on it though out here but retail's dead once again.  WM's are empty and only Target's seemingly stocking much right now.  Go figure.

I'll keep an eye out. I haven't seen any evolution sets for a couple weeks, Anakin or otherwise, but when they show up again (if you haven't found them yourself) I'll grab what I can.

I personally ordered the clone evolution case from EE. Who knows when the **** that's coming in though.


Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on September 9, 2005, 07:45 PM
One of our local TRU's put out 20 clones and 20 Anakin Evolutions i.e. 10 cases. The Anakins are still there, but the Clones sold out by the afternoon.  Guess I'll have to watch em hit ebay now.  Hopefully some collectors got em!

I cannot post the link because this is from an endorsed section in our local collecting forum and you have to have access to get into that part, but the posts go to support what I've said:

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there were probably 20 of anakin and 20 of the clones. I did not stash any. There is one on hold that I thought I needed but don't. It is held under Broc. if anyone wants it.

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I called TRU Murray just now. They said they have stacks of them and said they wouldn't hold one for me since the have pleny. Has anyone been there this afternoon?
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Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 10, 2005, 01:00 AM
A big HUGE thanks to Ryan (Sith Lord Chaos) as he got me some Evo sets to get me at least caught up for my minimum wants for now. ;)

I'll get my duplicates as I find them but I totally appreciate the help keeping an eye out for me like that Lando, it's definitely appreciated!  I've had such bad luck on these.

The report you just made though Blackdog, about ALL those sets, that's promising.  Maybe these are just slow to get pushed out the door and have only been at a trickle?  VOTC was like that as I recall, then the deluge came.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on September 13, 2005, 10:02 AM
No problem Jesse.  8)

I'm hoping the deluge is coming, because I haven't seen a trace of these since the initial Anakin set that I found. I'm really excited for the Clone set, but I have to say that I'm really looking forward to the Sith set. Sure Dooku is a little unnecessary, but the Maul and Emperor figures really look great. I'm planning on getting a second just so I can make a relaxed face Emperor to sit on the throne from the Final Duel cinema scene.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 13, 2005, 10:47 AM
The toughest one to find around here has been the Sith set - I found ONE a few weeks back and am still looking for one for a friend.

I've come across the clone pack several times and so far haven't been able to restrain myself.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on September 13, 2005, 10:56 AM
I'm hoping we'll begin to see more of these show up as well, or even, any of these ;).  We had the Anakin set hit Target and Wal-Mart in the same weekend about 3-4 weeks ago, and those have since totally sold out in town.  No sign of the Clone or Sith packs yet, but hopefully these won't be too "limited" and they'll hit in decent quantities throughout the rest of this year and through the holiday season.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on September 14, 2005, 01:02 AM
I'm highly concerned about the distribution of the Evolution sets, it's been almost a month now since I got the Anakin set and that has been the only time when I saw any Evo set. All the Targets in my area continuously have the item not in stock and haven't really gotten much new in stock in a few weeks. Wal-Mart is stocking some stuff, but now with the exception of the two "Jedi vs" Battle Packs, they haven't stocked anything in the 3.75" scale in 2 weeks. TRU doesn't even have a space for Evo sets, but has over 2 dozen of the Hoth battle packs. Normally, when something hits my area I start seeing evidence of it all over within a week or two, whether or not I find what I'm looking for. Around me the 500th Vader, Battle Packs, and Target TIES are relatively easy to find, but not hide nor hair of any of the Evo sets. It's becoming a bit worrisome since this is the only thing I really want for the remainder of the year.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 14, 2005, 12:41 PM
The distribution does seem a bit odd. I would have expected the Anakin set to be clogging the selves before we saw the Clone set, let alone the Sith set. But, all of my stores have been getting these in one case at a time and they have been seeling almost instantaniously.

I still have yet to see the sith set.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 14, 2005, 01:22 PM
I have yet to see the Clone sets either... yet a guy I know put all four of them he saw at a local Walmart on layaway about 2 weeks ago.   ::)

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on September 14, 2005, 02:30 PM
I have only seen the clones once.  I got both packs and got screwed on the 2 lefties AOTC clones.  I was hoping to return them for good sets but have been carrying them in my trunk for over a week now.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 14, 2005, 08:38 PM
Well at least you have them, I have not seen any for the life of me and e bay prices suck ass, I would keep the error clone and he might be worth some bucks down the line.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2005, 02:43 AM
I've been finding these things just about everywhere I go. I found 10 of them today, 2 of them last weekend, 4 the weekend before that. I've given some away, am trading 2, returned one, opened 6.

This is in addition to the ones I already had - so, they're starting to pile up.

I found all 10 of these this evening at Walmarts - they were putting them out at each of the three stores I went to.

So, you guys might want to hit up Walmart in the morning.

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 15, 2005, 03:04 AM
My Wlamart's open 24 hours and gets raped by the scalpers that work at the postal distribution center next door. I rarely find anything there. I'm finally getting the clones in trade, thankfully.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: MetalJedi on September 15, 2005, 03:09 AM
My Wlamart's open 24 hours and gets raped by the scalpers that work at the postal distribution center next door. I rarely find anything there. I'm finally getting the clones in trade, thankfully.

Which Walmart is this?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 15, 2005, 03:20 AM
My Wlamart's open 24 hours and gets raped by the scalpers that work at the postal distribution center next door. I rarely find anything there. I'm finally getting the clones in trade, thankfully.

Which Walmart is this?

Redlands. It's a real rare occurrence when I find anyhting worth a damn there.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 15, 2005, 04:30 AM
And Pittsburgh is still 100% dry on Evolutions.  They were sporatically spotted, you hear a report about one or two cases showing up at most, but never any big payday on these and they sell immediately it seems.

I'm SOL on finding them at retail but SithLordChaos helped me get a set.  Now I'm just onto getting doubles and any additional extras I want.  I'm not very hopeful on these for some reason, but keep hoping they show up like VOTC some day and just pile up on us.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on September 15, 2005, 03:02 PM
I have only seen the clones once.  I got both packs and got screwed on the 2 lefties AOTC clones.  I was hoping to return them for good sets but have been carrying them in my trunk for over a week now.

I've bought 6 different sets of Clones and I haven't had that problem with a snigle set yet, your's must be an error. You could try writing Hasbro and see if they will replace it for you.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2005, 04:04 PM
No errors or messed up figures to report in the 13 I've opened.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: jokabofe on September 15, 2005, 06:35 PM
No errors or messed up figures to report in the 13 I've opened.

Damn, yo... I'm lucky I got 1.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2005, 06:49 PM
I'm sharing the news today to take whatever lumps people want to give me over my alleged hoarding... I've got that many open ones - I've also shared 4 with other people and left a small number behind...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 15, 2005, 08:14 PM
I'm sharing the news today to take whatever lumps people want to give me over my alleged hoarding...

(http://www.nonstick.com/wpics/rk_pete1.jpg)

"Oh, better gimme a lotta lumps -- a whooole lotta lumps."
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on September 15, 2005, 10:26 PM
KBZ, different strokes for different folks. I have 1 set, have had 7, and helped 7 other collectors in the area get one. I have no problem with you hoarding if your helping others in your area.  Just comes down to what you want. I only want 1 and I got one. IF my son wants one, then I would have gotten one for him. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 15, 2005, 10:51 PM
I'm really annoyed that people can't find these sets.  If I could actually find them around me, I'd be grabbing them up for folks, but since that one day I saw (and got) the Clone and Sith sets last month, it's been nothing but Anakins (and those are few and far between).  But hey, the Jedi vs. Sith, Jedi vs. Separatists, Jedi vs. Tree-Hugging Hippies, and Jedi vs. The Neighborhood Watch Battle Packs are keeping the shelves warm for when the Evolutions sets finally do show up, so there's nothing to worry about.   ::)

All kidding aside, the fact that Hasbro is pushing (and shipping) a metric ton of these Battle Packs while the Evolutions line, which are some of the best figures they've ever done, is getting the short shift is really irritating.  I'm beginning to wonder if that variant of the Clone set will even make it to retail at this point, and if it does, if anyone will be able to find it before it becomes the next "VHTF HOT OMG WTF" item on Ebay.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 15, 2005, 11:14 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if that variant of the Clone set will even make it to retail at this point, and if it does, if anyone will be able to find it before it becomes the next "VHTF HOT OMG WTF" item on Ebay.

Are you my long lost brother?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2005, 11:27 PM
KBZ, different strokes for different folks. I have 1 set, have had 7, and helped 7 other collectors in the area get one. I have no problem with you hoarding if your helping others in your area.  Just comes down to what you want. I only want 1 and I got one. IF my son wants one, then I would have gotten one for him. 

Thanks.  I just can't resist these things - like I mentioned elsewhere, I've been trying to help some people out - I've spread a few around, left a (small) number behind - but have also bought a bunch.

It really does seem like I find them every time I go looking... I found another one today.

Here's some pictures I took this evening:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/SW%20Collection/Evolutions_001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/SW%20Collection/Evolutions_002.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/SW%20Collection/Evolutions_004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/SW%20Collection/Evolutions_003.jpg)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on September 16, 2005, 12:07 AM
Good.  Lord.   ;D  I felt guilty buying just ONE for myself (pinching pennies at the moment.)  That's amazing.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on September 16, 2005, 12:30 AM
Sheesh, Rob. What happened to your countertop? :-\

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on September 16, 2005, 12:40 AM
Wow that's $280 of clones. :o Your 14 sets blow my 3 out of the water.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 16, 2005, 01:42 AM
Sheesh, Rob. What happened to your countertop? :-\

Kevin

Polished granite temporarily covered with clones - no problems there.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 16, 2005, 01:54 AM
Wow that's $280 of clones. :o Your 14 sets blow my 3 out of the water.

Quality over quantity I guess...

After I loaded up on SA Clones I managaed to get myself to stop for the most part - then these sets hit.  Super Articulated Troops just do it for me I guess... I can't help myself.

It's the Sandtrooper mainly that I want - but they're all great and the Pilot helmet option is a nice addition as well.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 16, 2005, 11:03 AM
That's just crazy.  Such a hard find, yet you're swimming in them.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 16, 2005, 02:23 PM

All kidding aside, the fact that Hasbro is pushing (and shipping) a metric ton of these Battle Packs while the Evolutions line, which are some of the best figures they've ever done, is getting the short shift is really irritating. 

I guess it's all about location, because here in LA, the Battlebacks are few and far in between, same as evolutions. Neither sit and neither are appearing in mass quantity.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on September 16, 2005, 02:25 PM
Super Articulated Troops just do it for me I guess... I can't help myself.

Don't we have a thread about quoting other posters out of context?  ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 16, 2005, 03:27 PM
Those sandtroopers have a pretty wide stance. What esle differs from the VOTC stormie, besides the obvious?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 16, 2005, 03:39 PM
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What esle differs from the VOTC stormie, besides the obvious?

Even though I don't have the VOTC Stormie in front of me at the moment, I can tell you the most obvious differences I've noticed in the sculpt off the top of my head:

-There is no waist articulation at all on the Evo Sandtrooper
-The hands are sculpted differently on the Evo Sandtrooper
-There is a hole/slot in the back of the torso for the backpack
-The belt is different (it has a pocket thing on the hip as opposed to the holster on the VOTC Stormtrooper, which is totally absent on the Sandtrooper)

Those are the most obvious things I could see, going by memory.  I want to say that the Sandtrooper's head is a different sculpt, but I can't say for sure.  It could have something to do with the rather short neck-ball and pauldron, but it just looks smaller this time around to me.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on September 16, 2005, 06:23 PM
The belt is removable as well. Has anyone else noticed how hard the hands are on the EVO Sandtrooper? I Can hardly get the gun in either hand of any of mine. Why couldn't thaey have made the battledorids out of that stuff? ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 16, 2005, 06:36 PM
Yay, I got the set in the mail today! The clones are ******* great! AOTC is my fave. The sandtrooper sucks. :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ner_vod on September 16, 2005, 08:58 PM
I saw in the pics b4 that it came with a clone pilot helmet or a swappable head. Is this true?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Reid on September 16, 2005, 09:01 PM
Yay, I got the set in the mail today! The clones are ******* great! AOTC is my fave. The sandtrooper sucks. :P

The Sandtrooper doesn't, doesn't suck. Just because it doesnt have that extra 2 points of articulation that some people seem to care about so much doesn't mean it sucks. We should be grateful were getting a sandtrooper up-to-par with the VOTC Stormie. Be grateful.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 16, 2005, 09:22 PM
I saw in the pics b4 that it came with a clone pilot helmet or a swappable head. Is this true?

Yeah, it comes with 2 seperate helmets, not heads. It's really nice.

The Sandtrooper doesn't, doesn't suck.

It doesn't blow. I was just disappointed in it when I opened it. The head doesn't move much except back/upward because the paulron's in the way. They don't seem to have retooled to compensate. I tried to move it and it popped off. And I didn't care for the wide stance; it seems to limit the poseability. But when I think about it, it shouldn't have the feet-together sort of "at attention" stance the VOTC stormie has; if he's trooping aorund the desert, he could use a wider stance. Yeah, keeping the midsection joint wouldn't have hurt.

Anyway, I was more excited about the clones, so the sandtrooper had that against him in the first place. ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Reid on September 16, 2005, 09:37 PM
Sorry for being so tense, its just that I'm more of a OT Imperial collector. The clones, however look very good, especially the swappable trooper/pilot helmets on the E2 clonie.  :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 16, 2005, 10:10 PM


Anyway, I was more excited about the clones, so the sandtrooper had that against him in the first place. ;)

I think it would have been great if the sandtrooper had a removable helmet, with a Jango head underneath...so we could definitively say, "Yes, the stormtroopers are the Jango clone template."

I think the reason why 2 figures have the removable helmet, and the sandtrooper doesn't, is that Lucas didn't have to identify the OT stormies as definitively being Jango clones.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ner_vod on September 16, 2005, 10:32 PM
Can someone post a pic of them?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 16, 2005, 10:59 PM
The sandtrooper is my favorite of the pack - he's awesome.  That's the main reason I'm buying a bunch of this one - I'd rather have a bunch of regular white E2 clones and Clone Commanders - but I also want a bunch of the orange pauldroned Sandtrooper.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 16, 2005, 11:13 PM
Can someone post a pic of them?

There are detailed pics here:

http://www.rebelscum.com/rots05evol-troops1.asp
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on September 16, 2005, 11:24 PM
Can someone post a pic of them?

There are also detailed pictures (with much MORE detail) here:

Clone Trooper to Stormtrooper (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Evolutions/Clone_Trooper_to_Stormtrooper)   ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 16, 2005, 11:33 PM
Can someone post a pic of them?

There are also detailed pictures (with much MORE detail) here:

Clone Trooper to Stormtrooper (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Evolutions/Clone_Trooper_to_Stormtrooper)   ;)


Sorry, dude. I'm just a creature of habit. I used that other site before I heard of JD. I even like GH's photography better than RS's, but I still just keep using the RS Archive out of habit. No offense. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 17, 2005, 01:20 AM
Damn Rob...  Just, sheesh man.

I agree that the Sandtrooper is my favorite but I also agree that no figure in the Clone set is "perfect".  The CW Clone, VOTC Stormtrooper, and #41 Clone are all superior figures IMO.

The Sandtrooper is nice for sure though, and I love that we have a kickass new sculpt on the mega cannon.  :)  I like it when Impy's go wiping out towns with BFG's.

I personally think the reason there's no removable helmet is the same reason I think Lucasfilm didn't alter the voices in the DVD's and whatnot.  Lucas has too much EU out there that's contradictory and Lucasfilm's made their "excuse" for it and they're leaving it at that...  Hasbro could've put a Jango head on, but that'd still be nothing remotely close to an answer on that debate either, just Hasbro being Hasbro and doing their own thing.  Which would've been fine, I mean a removable helmet would've been appreciated really, but I'm in the camp that still likes sentients, not Clones, for my Stormtroopers. :)

The figure's the best of the 3-pack I think.  Too bad there's no E-11 for him too though, you gotta get those heavy weapons dispersed among your other troops Rob.

Now if Hasbro would only put this figure on a basic card with a black pauldron and white pauldron and a variety of weapons.  Easy $$$.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 17, 2005, 04:01 AM
I got mine today, they are sweet, I cold resist and opened on the way to my house, I am 50/50 on the sandtrooper, I like him, but he looks a little weak, copared to the POTF, by the way I really love the POTF Sandtrooper for some reason he looks kick ass in dio's.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on September 17, 2005, 06:28 AM
I got mine today, they are sweet, I cold resist and opened on the way to my house, I am 50/50 on the sandtrooper, I like him, but he looks a little weak, copared to the POTF, by the way I really love the POTF Sandtrooper for some reason he looks kick ass in dio's.

POTF or POTJ? Cause I  know that I'd take the EVO or POTJ Sandtroopers over the POT2 version anyday.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on September 17, 2005, 10:36 AM
Agreed, the POTJ is awesome, the POTF2 is a statue.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 17, 2005, 11:37 AM
I'm pretty sure he meant POTJ... at least I hope so.

Anyways, I finally found a set yesterday and opened them.  I am most impressed with these and want to get at least 5-6 sets of them.

Sandtrooper - I love this figure, my only rant is I think the desert weather on him looks more like mustard smears... meaning that I will most likely do a bit of touching up myself with it.

ROTS Clone - Wonderful, I just wish he had waist articulation, other than that this figure seems perfect.

AOTC Clone - My favorite easily, and that's because I love putting the Clone Pilot helmet on him.  He looks so damn realistic with that helmet, and it seems to be sized very well.  This figure alone is worth the $20.00 to me!

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 17, 2005, 12:23 PM
Just a note for those keeping score, both Ray (Bobafett77) and I have come accross the 4 per case clone case, however, neither had the coloured varient. ???
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Reid on September 17, 2005, 12:53 PM
Has anyone seen the grey colored clone varient?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 17, 2005, 01:48 PM
Has anyone seen the grey colored clone varient?

As far as we know, it has not been releast yet. It hasn't even turned up on e-bay.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on September 17, 2005, 04:10 PM
Finally found 2 more clone evos.  I just retuned my lefty clone evos, so I am a happy camper. ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 17, 2005, 05:50 PM
This figure alone is worth the $20.00 to me!

Man, you gotta stop that kind of talk. It gives the marketing wizards at Corporate ideas. :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 17, 2005, 05:57 PM
This figure alone is worth the $20.00 to me!

Man, you gotta stop that kind of talk. It gives the marketing wizards at Corporate ideas. :P

You're right, but to me it's the best figure in the set.   ;)

And Gatillo, I'm glad to hear that you were able to get some correct Clones now.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 17, 2005, 06:03 PM
I love it too. I like the weathering, pilot helmet and especially the younger clone head.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on September 17, 2005, 09:08 PM
Has anyone seen the grey colored clone varient?

I thought that one was to be released quite a bit later.  That was the one that were the prototype was stolen at Comin Con.  Hasbro was acting like it was going to take a long while to get it approved again.  Supposedly.  Anyway I don't think it's coming out for quite awhile yet. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 17, 2005, 09:16 PM
I thought that the stolen figure was the Commander Bly basic figure.

In any event, I opened up one more of these Evolutions sets - I'm stopping on 15 until the other version shows up.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 17, 2005, 09:43 PM
I thought that the stolen figure was the Commander Bly basic figure.

KBZ's right: the "stolen" figure that the Hasbro rep flipped out about was Bly.  There's another thread here in this very forum written by JD's own Jared/Tydirium from the SDCC where the whole thing is laid out as it happened.

IIRC, the figures that Hasbro showed at the SDCC for the variant set were not the final product (or so we hoped) since the AOTC Clone was an AT-TE Gunner with a AOTC-style helmet, and no boxed sample was available.  I'm really hoping that if/when the variant set hits, it will be a bit easier to find than the first version because outside of you, Zod, I've not heard of anyone having an easy time finding them.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 17, 2005, 09:55 PM
I thought that the stolen figure was the Commander Bly basic figure.

I'm really hoping that if/when the variant set hits, it will be a bit easier to find than the first version because outside of you, Zod, I've not heard of anyone having an easy time finding them.

I don't hope it's easier to find.  The ROTS clone in the 1st set is the Felucia clone under Commander Bly.  We're getting Bly in a few weeks here, and we have his grunts.  I think I'm correct in saying that this is the first time we'll have a Commander and his matching grunts from ROTS.  Gree and the AT-RT driver and BARC pack in figure will make set #2.

If the clone evolutions start being released in that second variant paint scheme, then the  ROTS clone in that set is...well...nothing.  It's not even in the movie.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 18, 2005, 12:54 AM
I got 3 of the evolutions and I am stopping there, no more room to display them.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 18, 2005, 12:59 AM
I'm in the same boat - after I get back from watching the Bucs game tomorrow, my afternoon project is trying to squeeze all those troops onto already crowded shelves...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 18, 2005, 12:49 PM

I don't hope it's easier to find. The ROTS clone in the 1st set is the Felucia clone under Commander Bly. We're getting Bly in a few weeks here, and we have his grunts.

Oh, I didn't mean that I hope the second set hits in larger numbers than the first set: merely that I hoped when the second set does hit, it will be easier to locate than the current set is.  I'd rather see them released in equal amounts instead of one being considered a "chase" piece, which is what I worry the second "gray" set is inevitably going to become given the piss-poor distribution of the current Clone Evolutions set.

Hasbro could have really stepped up to the plate with their HTS site and offered these directly, but ever since I've found out the site has to order its products directly from Hasbro just as any other website/etailer, I don't think that HTS is going to be a source for much of anything SW-related in the near future. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on September 18, 2005, 01:43 PM
I thought that the stolen figure was the Commander Bly basic figure.

In any event, I opened up one more of these Evolutions sets - I'm stopping on 15 until the other version shows up.

Oh yeah that was right.  Well maybe it is supposed to be out then?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 18, 2005, 02:53 PM
Since the solid case of clone is starting to ship w/o the varient, any spectulation on how that one is going to be handled now?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 19, 2005, 11:41 AM
I know the white/grey ones are supposed to be in evo's wave 4(says on box).
are these boxes saying wave 4 or do they some other wave witha different revision. Perhaps wave 4 has a revision with just the white clones- any way you can get an idea more about the case ass. available by looking at them at EE.
www.entertainmentearth.com

I can't wait for these damned versions to show up, I'm tired of passing on the regular clone evo's in the stores all the time already! ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on September 19, 2005, 12:42 PM
I can't wait for these damned versions to show up, I'm tired of passing on the regular clone evo's in the stores all the time already! ::)

****. I wish that was my problem. And I really want that ******* Sith set already!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 19, 2005, 12:54 PM
I know the white/grey ones are supposed to be in evo's wave 4(says on box).
are these boxes saying wave 4 or do they some other wave witha different revision. Perhaps wave 4 has a revision with just the white clones-

I don't get to see the case, but that is a good point about a revision number. Hopefully, that will come to pass soon.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on September 19, 2005, 01:10 PM
Anakin/Vader Packaging Variant…

The IV has now been changed to VI on the front as well as the placement/printing of some of the warning info

http://potf2.com/potj/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9042
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 19, 2005, 01:37 PM
Makes sense to be Episode VI since it's a removable helmet version.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: MetalJedi on September 19, 2005, 05:06 PM
I can't wait for these damned versions to show up, I'm tired of passing on the regular clone evo's in the stores all the time already! ::)

You must be the only collector where you live. You can send those down my way.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 19, 2005, 05:13 PM
I decided to hit eBay for these.  I found a great price, for 2 each of the Clone and Sith sets.  Amazingly, even paying the slightly higher eBay price, it's still cheaper (even with shipping and exchange) than what I'd pay at Canadian retail.

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2005, 05:36 PM
I decided to hit eBay for these.  I found a great price, for 2 each of the Clone and Sith sets.  Amazingly, even paying the slightly higher eBay price, it's still cheaper (even with shipping and exchange) than what I'd pay at Canadian retail.



You're Canadian?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 19, 2005, 05:49 PM
Quote from: MetalJedi
You must be the only collector where you live. You can send those down my way.
[quote

No there's probably 8 but I get to most stuff first, they hate me but I don't care I'm indifferent. It's probably where you guys reside west of the San Bernardino Mtns because there's thousands of collectors down there compared to a scant few where I live East of the MTNs.

It's funny I see alot of guys giving me that "look of death" when they see I'm checking out or leaving the isle with the last of the good stuff often. Especially that big Indian dude ..man, I've burned him often. So what, If they best me I don't get mad because there are several stores I know I can get stuff later. 

Your info could have been useful the last few weeks ...I could have gotten you 8 each of sith and clones if I knew. Sorry. :(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on September 19, 2005, 09:11 PM
It's funny I see alot of guys giving me that "look of death" when they see I'm checking out or leaving the isle with the last of the good stuff often. Especially that big Indian dude ..man, I've burned him often.

You're talking about the big guy with the longish hair, mustache and 70's glasses, right?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: MetalJedi on September 20, 2005, 04:27 AM
Quote from: MetalJedi
You must be the only collector where you live. You can send those down my way.
[quote

No there's probably 8 but I get to most stuff first, they hate me but I don't care I'm indifferent. It's probably where you guys reside west of the San Bernardino Mtns because there's thousands of collectors down there compared to a scant few where I live East of the MTNs.

It's funny I see alot of guys giving me that "look of death" when they see I'm checking out or leaving the isle with the last of the good stuff often. Especially that big Indian dude ..man, I've burned him often. So what, If they best me I don't get mad because there are several stores I know I can get stuff later. 

Your info could have been useful the last few weeks ...I could have gotten you 8 each of sith and clones if I knew. Sorry. :(

No worries on that. If you do see another Sith Evo could you grab it for me? I need an opener. By the way does that Indian dude have long black hair in a ponytail usually? There's an Indian guy I see few and far between and he gave me the look of death when scored some stuff. This was awhile ago though.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2005, 12:17 PM
Quote from: MetalJedi
You must be the only collector where you live. You can send those down my way.
[quote

No there's probably 8 but I get to most stuff first, they hate me but I don't care I'm indifferent. It's probably where you guys reside west of the San Bernardino Mtns because there's thousands of collectors down there compared to a scant few where I live East of the MTNs.

It's funny I see alot of guys giving me that "look of death" when they see I'm checking out or leaving the isle with the last of the good stuff often. Especially that big Indian dude ..man, I've burned him often. So what, If they best me I don't get mad because there are several stores I know I can get stuff later. 

Your info could have been useful the last few weeks ...I could have gotten you 8 each of sith and clones if I knew. Sorry. :(

No worries on that. If you do see another Sith Evo could you grab it for me? I need an opener. By the way does that Indian dude have long black hair in a ponytail usually? There's an Indian guy I see few and far between and he gave me the look of death when scored some stuff. This was awhile ago though.

Sounds right..wow! I didn't realize he covered such a large area!

One of the many times "he hate me" he cried at me at TRU. I was first in line waiting for silver Vaders and He and another walked up behind me stupidly talking about SW (so I knew what they were going after now). I smartly remained silent- then, when the store opened I walked quickly to the SW section. LOL-they started running in horror when the "assumed HW guy"(me) turned towards the SW instead! LOL- then I quickly pulled 4 vaders off the shelf-on my fourth one he cried" man...how many you gonna take :'(?" which was a joke because he and his buddy Pat got 3 each and I got 4 so whaaa, whateva. LOL- I hear this story from the Indian's friend Pat all the time and every time I took 5, now 6,next week it will be 7, ect! LOL-he doesn't even realize duh-you're talking to the guy who beat you!hillarious-and that's only ONE example of many times I burned that guy! 8) ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2005, 02:00 PM
Looks like EE is now taking pre-orders for a "different" set of Clones... probably the v2 set with White/Gray troopers:

"Hasbro has informed us that this Clone Trooper set may be different than item number HS85726 / HS85553B1. Clone Troopers and exact sculpts subject to change"

Individually:
Star Wars Episode III Evolutions Pack 4: Clone Trooper (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85705) = $26.99

By the case:
Star Wars Episode III Evolutions Wave 2 Rev. 2 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85553B2)= $104.99

So,
wave 1 = 4x Anakin,
wave 2 = 2x Anakin, 2x Clone #1
wave 3 = 2x Clone #1, 2x Sith
wave 2, rev 1 = 4x Clone #1
wave 2, rev 2 = 2x Clone #2
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on September 20, 2005, 03:58 PM
By the time Amazon actually fills my order, I fully expect the clones that arrive will be the white/gray version.  Jim (chuckles) was kind enough to pick me up one of the originals, so I'm hoping in November when I'm down I can find one or two others languishing somewhere as people clamor for the new versions.  Amazon bumped my order back from September to October 04 now.   That's the fourth bump back so far :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: MetalJedi on September 20, 2005, 05:43 PM
Quote from: MetalJedi
You must be the only collector where you live. You can send those down my way.
[quote

No there's probably 8 but I get to most stuff first, they hate me but I don't care I'm indifferent. It's probably where you guys reside west of the San Bernardino Mtns because there's thousands of collectors down there compared to a scant few where I live East of the MTNs.

It's funny I see alot of guys giving me that "look of death" when they see I'm checking out or leaving the isle with the last of the good stuff often. Especially that big Indian dude ..man, I've burned him often. So what, If they best me I don't get mad because there are several stores I know I can get stuff later. 

Your info could have been useful the last few weeks ...I could have gotten you 8 each of sith and clones if I knew. Sorry. :(

No worries on that. If you do see another Sith Evo could you grab it for me? I need an opener. By the way does that Indian dude have long black hair in a ponytail usually? There's an Indian guy I see few and far between and he gave me the look of death when scored some stuff. This was awhile ago though.

Sounds right..wow! I didn't realize he covered such a large area!

One of the many times "he hate me" he cried at me at TRU. I was first in line waiting for silver Vaders and He and another walked up behind me stupidly talking about SW (so I knew what they were going after now). I smartly remained silent- then, when the store opened I walked quickly to the SW section. LOL-they started running in horror when the "assumed HW guy"(me) turned towards the SW instead! LOL- then I quickly pulled 4 vaders off the shelf-on my fourth one he cried" man...how many you gonna take :'(?" which was a joke because he and his buddy Pat got 3 each and I got 4 so whaaa, whateva. LOL- I hear this story from the Indian's friend Pat all the time and every time I took 5, now 6,next week it will be 7, ect! LOL-he doesn't even realize duh-you're talking to the guy who beat you!hillarious-and that's only ONE example of many times I burned that guy! 8) ::)

He's cried to me too. I picked up the wave 3 of VOTC at Target when they were on sale for 8 or whatever. So I picked up both Fetts and Stormies. And he started crying.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2005, 10:02 PM
New Photo...

(http://jedidefender.com/news/images/9-05/rotsclone22.jpg)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on September 20, 2005, 10:14 PM
Cool, a pooptrooper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on September 20, 2005, 10:56 PM
I'm not sure right now if I am going to go after the white version that hard of this set. I am very happy with the yellow version and this set just doesn't do anything for me. Guess it depends how much money I have in November, and IF I want to hunt for em.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 20, 2005, 11:38 PM
And here I thought the ****-smears on the current Sandtrooper were bad... :P

That said, I actually really like the gray Clone Commander (the real Coruscant Clone Commander for the gray Clones?) but did anyone else notice the second Clone belt laying amongst the accessories?  I know that the Sandtrooper's belt is removable but I wonder why that's there.   ???
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on September 21, 2005, 12:03 AM
And here I thought the ****-smears on the current Sandtrooper were bad... :P

That said, I actually really like the gray Clone Commander (the real Coruscant Clone Commander for the gray Clones?) but did anyone else notice the second Clone belt laying amongst the accessories?  I know that the Sandtrooper's belt is removable but I wonder why that's there.   ???

Pop off the kama and pauldron on the ROTS commander and you have a regular gray Coruscant grunt. That would awesome if that is actually in the set, and not just a mock up image. Other that the poopertrooper I am really excited for this variant, it'll be better to army build with since we get grunts instead of commanders. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gregorbian on September 21, 2005, 12:16 AM
did anyone else notice the second Clone belt laying amongst the accessories?  I know that the Sandtrooper's belt is removable but I wonder why that's there.   ???

I think it's so that you can do what SLC said - take off the kama and pauldron and put on the gray belt and you have a regular ROTS gray Clone Trooper  8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 21, 2005, 12:23 AM
I'm looking at the Kama (I love having a word other than "skirt" for this) and I don't see a means of popping it off shorto f some customizing. :)

It's not a Stormie belt, but this thread enlightened me that the Sandie's belt comes off, that's cool.  Weird that it does, but cool.

I like the grey uniformed Clones myself...  The Sandtrooper's looking mighty mucky but I'm ok with that.  They haven't done a good Sandtrooper paintjob yet anyway, so I'm not too picky there.  He's just seen some heavy action it seems.

Never understood why troopers on a desert planet were really all that muddy, since sand isn't really muddy, but whatever.

More Evolutions sets for me to not find!  Yay!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on September 21, 2005, 01:11 AM
Sand is abrasive, coarse, and it gets everywhere.

Ask any veteran from Desert Storm or Iraqi Freedom, and they will gladly tell you how sand is. :D

When I lived in Texas, after a week of bycicling, my white bike helmet had orange stains where the sand had assulted it.

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 21, 2005, 01:44 AM
I think the "sanding" of the Sandtrooper actually looks really good - I'm definitely looking forward to getting my hands on this.

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Kill_Solo on September 21, 2005, 02:08 AM
The new variant set is awesome! I love it man!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: MetalJedi on September 21, 2005, 02:50 AM
Damn clones. Now I have to get these as well. Looks like I'll just order a case from EE.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 21, 2005, 01:05 PM
I certanly hope they put the clone variation out in decent quantity.

I poped open the Sith set last night and man am I impressed. The evolution series has been a real winner for me and I hope and pray it continues.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on September 21, 2005, 01:18 PM
I rank the Sith set the bottom of the 3 because of Darth Maul's plastic cloak accessory. They could have just as easily included the one from the EI pack-in Sith Speeder figure. And I would have liked an alternate pale skin "Emperor" head for Palpatine in addition to that the constipation look head he comes with.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Matt on September 21, 2005, 02:06 PM
New Photo...

(http://jedidefender.com/news/images/9-05/rotsclone22.jpg)

That Sandtrooper will be perfect for the "Patrolling the Sewers of Coruscant" EU photonovel I'm currently working on!

Pics coming soon!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on September 21, 2005, 02:25 PM
I love clones and variations, but these things are a bitch to find - it almost takes the fun out of collecting when you can't find the toys you want on the shelves.

I have two Super Wal-Marts in my area and both do not carry the Evo sets or the Battle Packs.  Figure that one out.   :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on September 21, 2005, 02:27 PM
what state are you in?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 21, 2005, 03:50 PM
Cant wait for the grey version, hopefully I will find some, I am still looking for the sith evo pack.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on September 21, 2005, 09:08 PM
If anyone wants to send me their variant Sandtroopers when you buy this set please feel free to do so :)  Actually I like all of those variants but especially the Sandtrooper.  I am in love!  Ok not really but I do like it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 21, 2005, 10:07 PM
Is it just me, or is the AOTC lower half of the body a LOT darker than the rest of the clone?  Hopefully it's just the pic.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on September 21, 2005, 10:20 PM
I hope these don't show up too soon. I'm still trying to find the original set!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on September 22, 2005, 12:09 AM
Is it just me, or is the AOTC lower half of the body a LOT darker than the rest of the clone?  Hopefully it's just the pic.

 :P

Now that you mentioned it I noticed that too. I think/hope it is just ligting issue. :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on September 22, 2005, 09:50 AM
what state are you in?

I'll give you a hint - we are known for corn, not potatoes. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on September 22, 2005, 10:13 AM
what state are you in?

I'll give you a hint - we are known for corn, not potatoes. 

Too easy, I lived in Iowa my first 18 years and travel there regularly.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 22, 2005, 12:41 PM
I rank the Sith set the bottom of the 3 because of Darth Maul's plastic cloak accessory. They could have just as easily included the one from the EI pack-in Sith Speeder figure. And I would have liked an alternate pale skin "Emperor" head for Palpatine in addition to that the constipation look head he comes with.

Yeah, I think the Maul is argueably the worst of the evolution figures, but I think Palpatine is pretty outstanding and makes up for Maul's shortcomings, dispite Palpatine's fixed scowl. Maul realy could have used the ball jointed elbows.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on September 22, 2005, 04:04 PM
I'm not sure if anyone is interested, but Wal-Mart.com currently has the Clone/Stormtrooper Evolutions set in stock (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=4083628) and ready to ship.  $19.76 plus roughly $5 shipping the way it looks.  The Sith set is also listed, but out of stock.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on September 23, 2005, 11:31 PM
I'm not sure if anyone is interested, but Wal-Mart.com currently has the Clone/Stormtrooper Evolutions set in stock (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=4083628) and ready to ship.  $19.76 plus roughly $5 shipping the way it looks.  The Sith set is also listed, but out of stock.

w00t! thanks for posting that mosnab, I ordered myself two sets and they are set to arrive in a week or so. the $5 shipping isn't too bad, i'd have spent that much in gas and time hunting for these damn things. I swear now I'll be in a store to buy something else, look at the SW section and find hundreds of these things now that I ordered it online.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on September 25, 2005, 06:01 PM
Holy Crap. We went out of state today and at an out of the way Walmart they had an endcap of the Clone Evolution.  Not Siths or Vaders, just Clones.  I counted 27 of them.  I picked a horrible time to run out of moolah and quit army building.   
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 26, 2005, 12:17 AM
But this is a good sign for those still looking Jim.  Hopefully they'll be out there en masse at most stores so people have the chance to get these.  I'm still on the prowl for my doubles and extras of all 3 sets.

I just hope Hasbro sees these as hits because this line has a bright future if they continue the same quality and pricing.  $20 for 3 great figures and gear is a good deal to me.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on September 26, 2005, 01:58 AM
I think they're starting to show up more... I passed on about 5 sets in various locations this weekend.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 26, 2005, 02:58 AM
I was just playing "posing" my Sith set a little while here on my desk...  Outstanding.  I really was thinking this would be the downer of the 3 but I have to say that in my opinion this is probably the BEST set of the 3.  At least the figures seem of a higher overall quality anyway as they're all 3 heavy on articulation (no corner cutting save for Maul's elbows), the sculpts are fantastic, there's full accessories...

A couple little downers plague all 3 sets I've noticed.  The Clones aren't all super articulated, the chin sticking out on Bly's grunt is distracting too (and very odd that they let that happen.  That's the kind of thing picked up on before they go to production, but whatever), the lack of some weapons/gear... 

On the Anakin set it's the lopsided articulation between figures that brought it down, however the lack of sabers (why is that I wonder?) and a lack of a 2nd robe for E2 Anakin were disappointments too... 

The Sith set though, short of a couple more neutral sculpted heads for Maul and Palpatine (A ROTJ-ish Emperor face would've been nice), and maybe some hilts for Maul, Dooku, and Sidious to clip on their belts too.  They're great figures though as far as sculpt and articulation goes.  They pass the other two sets and I find that kind of funny really.

The sets are all 3 fantastic though, and I love these things so much.  It sucks tremendously to be among the areas short-changed on getting these in at retail.  I really have to thank SithLordChaos (Ryan) for helping me get my set of these (I owe you...  Literally).  He made my collecting much more enjoyable.  :)  Thanks man, again.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on September 26, 2005, 01:45 PM
Not a problem. ;)

My theory on the clone's chin: In the new variant set it looks like we get a spare clone belt that can be put on the ROTS commander instead of the kama. when you remove the pauldron too you get a basci Coruscant Grey trooper. When the pauldron is removed the helmet fits perfectly. I'm thinking that he was originally intended to be agrunt and then was changed to a commander without changing the sculpt. It would have been nice if they had mad the neck on the yellow ROTS clone a little longer so that the chin didn't show and then the grey variant could be the cuurent mold so that the neck isn't too long when the figure is displayed as a grunt.

As good as these sets are I still have a few gripes with them. Inaddition to everything Jesse mentioned, I can't stand the plastic on the sandtrooper it is so hard and Rigid it is hard to get the gun into the hands, and the joints are very tight. That is the plastic that they need to make battledroids with. I would have liked to have 2 of each of the clone rifles, at least 2 of the big one. I wish the AOTC clone had some type of waist joint too.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on September 26, 2005, 01:47 PM
I hate to give Wal-Mart any business if not completely necessary :P, but again, if anyone is interested Wal-Mart.com now has the Sith Evolutions (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=4083630) set in stock.  Of course, the Clone one is now out of stock though.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on September 27, 2005, 07:38 PM
Wow!  I went to a Wal-Mart the other day and they had about 20 of these things sitting on the shelf.  Love this thing by the way.  I can't wait to get the other variant as well. 

I let the Sith one stay there.  I just can't get up for Maul, Dooku, and horrible face Palpatine for some reason.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 28, 2005, 12:40 PM
I think they're starting to show up more... I passed on about 5 sets in various locations this weekend.

Where's Kneel Before Zod? This "Rob" is an imposter! ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on September 29, 2005, 01:12 PM
I hope no one is still waiting on Amazon for these...  looks like they pushed back the date (again) from Oct 1 to Oct 15.   ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on September 29, 2005, 02:19 PM
I saw that earlier as well Jeff, and it seems like Amazon has been doing this a lot lately...at least with collectibles.  I think I've ended up cancelling my last three or so orders there, because I end up finding them at retail much sooner.  I've noticed products such as ML 10, 11, and some DC Direct things have been pushed back again as well...to the 15th.  I have some ML10 preordered there, just as a back up, but I'm hoping I'll find them at retail sooner.  For those having a tough time finding the Evo. sets, I've noticed that Wal-Mart.com has had them available off and on this entire week.  Last I checked, the Anakin and Clone sets were still in stock.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on September 29, 2005, 08:04 PM
It would have been nice if they had mad the neck on the yellow ROTS clone a little longer so that the chin didn't show

You guys still having problems with that chin? All you need is to stick something under the chin, keeping the head tilted all the way back while you shove the helmet down. After you let go of the helmet, pull your wedge out. It stays in there for me.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on September 29, 2005, 09:23 PM
What I did was turn the head completely around so it's facing backwards.  Problem solved.   :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on September 29, 2005, 09:28 PM
What I did was turn the head completely around so it's facing backwards.  Problem solved.   :)

That's the same trick I used - works like a charm!  :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on September 29, 2005, 10:15 PM
I hope no one is still waiting on Amazon for these...  looks like they pushed back the date (again) from Oct 1 to Oct 15.   ::)

You rang? 

Yep, still waiting.  Not really expecting them to show up.  Ever.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 30, 2005, 12:46 AM
Me too Brent, and pondering cancelling my order.  I've yet to see an Evo set at retail, and yet I still feel I'll see them at retail sooner than I'd get this half-assed order in from Amazon.com.

I hate etailing it...  Really I do.  :(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on September 30, 2005, 10:40 AM
What I did was turn the head completely around so it's facing backwards.  Problem solved.   :)

Same thing here, I couldn't get the chin to stay up, so now my Clones are like the Exorcist with twisted heads.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on September 30, 2005, 01:48 PM
I hope they did not make a big run of these.  If they did it may kill any chance for future releases.  These are starting to sit at a few stores here.  The Sith pack seems to be the hardest to come by in my area and always sells through.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 30, 2005, 03:29 PM
What I did was turn the head completely around so it's facing backwards.  Problem solved.   :)

Same thing here, I couldn't get the chin to stay up, so now my Clones are like the Exorcist with twisted heads.

 :P

Wedging the chin and top of the chest with something works decent, then sliding the helmet down.

You can also try popping the head off, positioning it inside the helmet the way you want with the chin hidden, and then popping the whole head/helmet unit back onto the ball joint of the neck.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on September 30, 2005, 04:24 PM
I just took the end of my small needlenosed pliers and popped the chin up into the helmet. Took about one second, and worked fine.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on September 30, 2005, 06:02 PM
I just held his chin up with the tip of my pinky and slipped the helmet on.  No problem for me there so it's cool.  I found that when I turned the head around that it sorta misshapened the helmet making it elongated in the back.   :-\

By the way, I don't necessarilly think that a product not moving quickly will necessitate it not being continued.  The VOTC didn't move fast but I think they're considered a successful "deluxe" line by Hasbro...  at least to an extent.

I still hope these show up in good quantities then...  I really do.  Maybe not to the point where we see 20 Anakin sets sit for a month or two, but where there's steadily product on the shelves that is trickling out the door.  That's always the ideal, and right now I think there's still potential for that with the Evolutions sets (especially Sith and Clone sets).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on September 30, 2005, 08:49 PM
I just opened my Sith Lords set and I need help.  Pics would be great.  How the hell has everyone posed the Maul with that cape?  Also, any suggestions on Palps hood withouu making it look like a Dunce cap or Clan hat? 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 30, 2005, 09:00 PM
I just opened my Sith Lords set and I need help. Pics would be great. How the hell has everyone posed the Maul with that cape? Also, any suggestions on Palps hood withouu making it look like a Dunce cap or Clan hat?

Unfortunately Jim, I don't think there is a way to post Maul with the cloak on that doesn't make him look ridiculous.  Every time I have him standing with it on, every Eric Cartman "I'M NOT FAT" line enters into my consciousness simultaneously.  That cloak is just horrible, and it went straight into my "random accessories" box after I finished laughing at it.

Palpatine's hood, I've found, looks best when you pull as much material up through the garotte as you can without bunching the underarm material.  Basically, I get it as loose as I can, put the garotte over it, reattach the head, and then pull the hood up.  At that point, I kind of pull the material down around the edge of his head (where the hood would kind of "droop" to his shoulders in reality) so it bunches up a little, and then I pull the back down a bit more so it will be a more natural droop.

It doesn't look perfect, but the baggier it is, the better it looks, I've found.  The trick is to fiddle with the back (where it makes the dunce point) more than the front and to kind of weigh the back down a bit (tucking it into the garotte works okay) so it won't stick straight up.  Hope that helps!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on October 3, 2005, 09:09 AM
I saw a few Evo sets around town this weekend, but almost all were Anakin to Vaders.  Wal-Mart seems to have these a little more often than Target, who sells out faster.  I did see one Clone Evo set at Target, and it was gone the next day.  I haven't seen the Sith Lord set at retail, and ordered one when it was "in stock" at Wal-Mart.com, but it still hasn't shipped.  Not sure about that one.  I'd still like to see this line continue, hopefully it will do well and Hasbro will consider it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 3, 2005, 09:49 AM
Jim - I just pulled the garotte off of Palapatine and put it on under the cape. I may not be right, but I think it looks better than with it over the hood.

I have no sugestions for Maul.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on October 3, 2005, 12:30 PM
Jim - I just pulled the garotte off of Palapatine and put it on under the cape. I may not be right, but I think it looks better than with it over the hood.

I have no sugestions for Maul.

Pics 8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 3, 2005, 12:44 PM
Jim - I just pulled the garotte off of Palapatine and put it on under the cape. I may not be right, but I think it looks better than with it over the hood.

I have no sugestions for Maul.

Pics 8)

Unlike the people who re-built Steve Austin, I do not have the technology. :(

Yet.

But give it a try, it's not like you can't put it back the other way. ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on October 3, 2005, 02:08 PM
Jim - I just pulled the garotte off of Palapatine and put it on under the cape. I may not be right, but I think it looks better than with it over the hood.

I have no sugestions for Maul.

That's what I've been doing too, it looks much better.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on October 3, 2005, 04:50 PM
found the clones and sith evolution set in NC this weekend  :D
didn't have enough moolah to get either though  :'(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on October 3, 2005, 05:30 PM
Finally found the Clone set this weekend, and I'm digging it. I love each figure. The 3 generic Commanders we've gotten look fantastic lined up together. And I LOVE the removeable helmets!

One question about the Sandtrooper though. All the pics I've seen online (even in the RS and JD photo archives) have the "bantha poodoo smears" paintjob for the sand. However, the sand on mine is painted similar to the basic POTF2 Sandtrooper's sand. Is everyone else's like this? Did I miss the news about a paint change? Or have I found a varient?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on October 3, 2005, 05:43 PM
Make me among that group too Diddly.  I didn't realize it was coming with a "smeared" and "sprayed" variation.  I got a set yesterday at TRU and it is definitely sprayed but my first sets from Ryan are definitely diarhea smears.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on October 3, 2005, 06:34 PM
I too, have spray and a **** smear versions. Both have clean boots though, the shins have crap on them but the feet themselves are completely white. I can't decide which I like better, I'm leaning towards the spray version, it looks more like sand weathering and less like someone at Hasbro pooed on it and called it paint.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 3, 2005, 06:34 PM
I have both kinds of course ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on October 3, 2005, 07:25 PM
Hell i don't know what I got I just like it!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 3, 2005, 07:40 PM
My training store got a case of Evolutions Friday but of course I was off and they are all long gone.  I'm gonna try to snag the grey variant to go with the grey Clones from the Target 5pak.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on October 4, 2005, 12:54 AM
Check out the front page for the story and image (best I could do folks, sorry).  I think they make for good diversity, but I have to say that explosive diarhea spray looks better than oozing diarhea smeared version.

Together, they make for a completely ruined bathroom.

I can't wait for diaper change variant Sandtrooper!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Reid on October 7, 2005, 09:47 PM
Hasbro.com/starwars has a story on the Sith and Stormie Evo sets. http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.news/newsID.C0A1BF22-D56F-E112-476F1E933E1886F0/default.cfm
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on October 8, 2005, 03:42 AM
Has the white/grey variant Clone set been found yet? It's about the only thing I'm looking for right now and after not finding any of the previous set in stores (had to order via Walmart.com), I'm a bit concerned about not finding the variant set.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on October 9, 2005, 02:22 AM
Just following up Jesse with an updated pic:

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on October 9, 2005, 03:32 AM
I'm going to say that the "**** splatter" Trooper was perhaps walking INTO the bathroom at the time that the "**** smear" Trooper was just unleashing his rectal fury.  Afterwards, smear wiped his hands on his armor as is evidenced by the smooth smeared lines, while he apologized to splatter who obviously was upset that it was south of the border night in the Destroyer's galley.

Or my imagination's disturbing and it's late.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 9, 2005, 04:08 AM
Or my imagination's disturbing and it's late.

Very disturbing.   ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on October 9, 2005, 04:56 AM
Actually, he's the very specialized Gastro Trooper.   ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Deanpaul on October 9, 2005, 11:29 AM
I consider this to be the Havana Omlete (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3580.0) Sandpooper Variation.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7710.0;id=693;image)

Definition:  A load of diarrhea that creates a series of loud splashes in the toilet water.  Often accompanied by an escapee.  Try using a CAMO-COUGH with an ASTAIRE. (From Matt Colman's 1999 Survival Guide to Taking a Dump at Work (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3580.0))

I'm pretty certain this figure dropped a watermelon[i/] before taking his Walk of Shame.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Reid on October 9, 2005, 11:31 AM
I consider this to be the Havana Omlete (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3580.0) Sandpooper Variation.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7710.0;id=693;image)



This could be the result of another Sandtroopers bad aim...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 9, 2005, 10:44 PM
These qualify for all sandtroopers behind the first dewback rider

All my local Wm's have these in stock anywhere from 5 to 8 per store since the Splash on the 1st.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on October 11, 2005, 08:31 AM
Is the 2nd set out yet?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on October 11, 2005, 09:26 AM
Other than the Anakin set, these haven't been around here either.  I did see one clone set at Target a week or so ago, but I had one on the way from Wal-Mart.com at that point, so I left it.  Otherwise, no sign of the others.  I did order the Sith set from Wal-Mart.com as well (when it was "in stock"), but I still haven't gotten shipping confirmation or anything after a couple weeks, so I'm starting to think it probably isn't going to happen.  I'm hoping the Sith and the variant Clonetrooper sets show up at retail more now and through the holiday season.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on October 11, 2005, 10:29 AM
Quote
(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7710.0;id=693;image)

Yeah, that guy sure does look like he stepped behind soemthing with a bad case of projectile squirts. Mine's funny ... His chest looks like someone dabbed the dirt on with a tiny cotton ball.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on October 11, 2005, 11:41 AM
I have to admit the paint scheme for the sandtrooper is a big discouragement, I still want the set but I'll probably give 'Sandy' to my kid the play with and lose  ;)
I'll keep the other two for myself.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Reid on October 12, 2005, 08:09 PM
New Evo sets announced by Hasbro!

Luke Set (http://http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_images/2005/1012/luke-evo.JPG)

Han Set (http://http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_images/2005/1012/han-evo.JPG)

These reportedly will be packed in a special case of 40, x20 Han and x20 Luke and will be a Target exclusive and be priced at $69.99 each.


 ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on October 12, 2005, 10:20 PM
Tonight I picked up the explosive "shotgun blast" diaharea paint job version to go along with my "dog scooting is ass on the white carpet" version. Will Hasbro complete the triad with an "I ate too much cheese version"? Only time will tell.  :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on October 13, 2005, 08:57 AM
I heard that the Cheese It sandtrooper will be coming out soon.  So get your own box
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on October 13, 2005, 06:49 PM
Amazon.com/TRU comes through again:

Quote
Star Wars Episode III Evolution Figure: Clone Trooper
Updated Shipping Estimate: November 2, 2005
updated Delivery Estimate: November 7, 2005 - November 9, 2005

Thanks for shopping with Amazon.com and Toys R Us, where we bring you your most-wanted toys... 5 months after every other retailer. How useless.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on October 13, 2005, 08:00 PM
Thanks for shopping with Amazon.com and Toys R Us, where we bring you your most-wanted toys... 5 months after every other retailer. How useless.

Yeah, after the second wave of Unleashed kept getting pushed back, weeks after they had shown up at TRUs across the country, I gave up hope on Amazon ever filling any of those orders.  Sure enough, right around that time, I got the cancellation notice from them in my email.   ::)

The funnier incident (one of those, "It would be funny if it wasn't so asinine" things) happened when the Obi-Wan JSF I had preordered for about a month was suddenly in stock for everyone to order.  Naturally, mine hadn't shipped, so I thought I'd see what would happen if I placed a second order for the toy that day. 

Guess what?  The order placed that day shipped that afternoon and I had it the following week.  The order I had placed a month prior to this still showed a ship date as two months or so away, and it didn't look like it was going to change at the time I cancelled it.

So yeah, TRU/Amazon is batting a .301 for the season.  Unfortunately, that type of number is only good in baseball.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on October 13, 2005, 08:41 PM
I don't know why I keep it on order. I've cancelled every other item that they put up on the site in April - 500th Vader, all of the Evo sets, Battle Packs, everything. They came through with none of them.

In contrast, I was able to order a clone Evo set from Walmart.com recently. It shipped the next day and arrived at my place two days after that. The box was in perfect shape.

If you're the largest online retailer in the world, and your toy partner is the largest toy-focused retailer in the world, and you're performance is being trounced in your combined specialized market by a dyed in the wool B&M behemoth that shouldn't be able to touch you...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on October 14, 2005, 03:13 AM
I had one up to the last push-back and cancelled...  WM.com came through better which I hate to say since I despise WM in every way.  They got me what I wanted though and I can walk away from Amazon's F'd up inability to get any of these and ship them.

Of course, if I see them on there ready to ship, I may nab a set or two, maybe cash-in a coupon if I find one to get them cheaply or shipped free...  I love these sets, but business is business as they say.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on October 14, 2005, 08:59 AM
Amazon has really been bad lately it seems, with toys/collectibles in particular.  Almost every item, Star Wars or otherwise, that I have pre-ordered or watched over the past few months has been continually pushed back until I eventually find it elsewhere and cancel it.  I still use the Amazon preorder as a form of "fail safe" if I can't find it elsewhere, but it ends up being delayed so long that I find it somewhere else first.  Like Jesse mentioned, I hated to do it, but when WM.com had the Clone and Sith Evo sets in stock, I ordered them.  Got the clone one in a couple of days, and the Sith one should be here early next week.

I've preordered and cancelled the Evo sets, 500th Vader, Unleashed, etc. all from Amazon, and they still haven't had them in stock since then.  I currently have some of Marvel Legends 10 preordered there, but I'm quite certain that will never come through either.  The shipping date kept getting pushed back and pushed back on their listings, and then yesterday it now just says "items is not available".  Always a good sign.  I'm hoping those turn up at retail soon too.  I've always had great luck with books and DVDs from Amazon, but the collectibles area has really been bad this year.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on October 16, 2005, 07:09 PM
Hey folks, I just discovered how good the rubber Deluxe Anakin/Vader cloak looks on Evo Anakin. It's perfect for displaying him and Obi-Wan #55 side-by-side with their robes on. Especially since Obi-Wan has the rubber robe, and they match that way. Maybe I'll snap a pic later.

Mustafar Anakin's plastic robe fits Evo Ani too, though it doesn't look quite as good.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on October 17, 2005, 03:17 PM
For anyone tired of waiting on their Amazon order...

The Evolution: Clone Trooper to Stormtroper set is in stock at www.hasbrotoyshop.com for $20 plus shipping:

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=495&SBR=219&ID=16449
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Paul on October 17, 2005, 10:34 PM
I got the Sith pack today.  If they would put that kind of Articulation into Main Characters from the OT....the world would be a better place.

I'm not a big fan of Darth Maul's arms, but the Emperor?/?WOW that thing has so much articulation it is staggering.

I am going to definately use these 3 as the basis for some customs.  I'm gonna hit Target and get them cheap this week. 

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on October 18, 2005, 09:15 AM
I received the Sith Evo set I ordered from WM.com yesterday, after a slight delay.  Its nice to finish these off, at least until the Clone variant set shows up.  Haven't cracked it open yet, but it does look nice.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Mr.el lucco on October 18, 2005, 09:31 PM
I just want more eu packs. Maybe a villian eu evlution pack .
kotor- Malak, Darth

DROIDS-admiral screed

Shawdos of the empire-
Prince Xizor

Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on October 20, 2005, 03:03 PM
Quote
I received the Sith Evo set I ordered from WM.com yesterday, after a slight delay.  Its nice to finish these off, at least until the Clone variant set shows up.  Haven't cracked it open yet, but it does look nice.

I got a chance to open this up and take a look, and it isn't too bad of a set.  There are some slight improvements that could be made to the Maul (ball jointed elbows, maybe a different face sculpt), but otherwise it is most likely the best one we've seen.  I do almost think the ROTS basic figure of Dooku might be as good or better than the Evolutions version.  The Evo version isn't bad, but I did have some issues with the cape on mine.  I think the "regular" version from the ROTS line is just as good though.  The Emperor is probably my favorite of the set.  You can tinker with his cloak enough to make it look good in some different ways, he's got plenty of articulation, and is capable of some nice poses.  It does kind of make me want a "new and improved" Original Trilogy style Emperor though.  The Saga one looked a little goofy, and this one just looks more ROTS than OT (which it is supposed to).  Maybe a different head sculpt is all it needs, but I wouldn't mind seeing a new OT Emperor.  That said, this set is pretty nice, and the Palpatine is the clear winner with me.  He's currently being displayed (along with Evo ROTS Anakin and ROTS Pilot Obi) alongside the VOTC figures on our desk. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on October 20, 2005, 03:18 PM
Hey folks, I just discovered how good the rubber Deluxe Anakin/Vader cloak looks on Evo Anakin. It's perfect for displaying him and Obi-Wan #55 side-by-side with their robes on. Especially since Obi-Wan has the rubber robe, and they match that way. Maybe I'll snap a pic later.

Mustafar Anakin's plastic robe fits Evo Ani too, though it doesn't look quite as good.

(http://myo.homestead.com/files/Toys/Anakin_Obi-Wan_robed.jpg)

8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on October 21, 2005, 04:20 PM
Looks like the Evolution Clone Set V2 still comes with the Ep2 Pilot Helmet and does in fact, come with the extra gray belt!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/10-05/evoclonev2.jpg)
(pic courtesy of Action HQ)

Now for the bad news, it looks like the gray grunt belt comes at the price of one of the scout pistols.  ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on October 21, 2005, 04:22 PM
I'm hoping they stick that other gun in his hand or something. How can you give the guy two holsters and one pistol? :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on October 21, 2005, 04:30 PM
I'm hoping they stick that other gun in his hand or something. How can you give the guy two holsters and one pistol? :-\

Doesn't look like it:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/10-05/evoclonev2-2.jpg)

I guess it's not the end of the world if you buy 2x sets and set up one as the Grunt (with rifle) and one Officer (with the pistols from each box).

Here's to hoping it's just hidden under the other gun or something.   :-\
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on October 21, 2005, 06:23 PM
What's the deal with the second belt anyway? Why is it needed?  ???

And I'm happy to see that the Rebublic is no more. :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on October 21, 2005, 06:25 PM
What's the deal with the second belt anyway? Why is it needed?  ???

And I'm happy to see that the Rebublic is no more. :P

You can take the pauldorn and skirt off the EP III guy and replace it with the belt. Them you have a regular Ep III clone with removable helmet.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on October 21, 2005, 06:29 PM
Ah, that's actually a cool idea. Thanks for the info! Sucks about the missing pistol, but oh well. Like Jeff said, 2 of each set should take care of it, which is what I plan on getting.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DualSaberMaster on October 21, 2005, 06:32 PM
What's weird is that his left side holster looks to be off kilter, uneven with the right side   It looks to be a little higher, and little smaller, or the right one is bigger.  I have a one of Bly's grunts right here in front of me, and both his holsters are dead even.

I think there being only one side arm is the key to unlocking the mystery of the belt. :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on October 22, 2005, 11:58 AM
I'm really looking forward to this second Clone set.  It really look nice.  Mainly the AOTC and ANH Troops.

Also, anyone disappointed in the Emperor figure?  For some reason the face not being painted like the Emperor and the silk cloak just never looks right to me...

It can easily be customized though... I went on probably 20 extra toy runs looking for a second set of these to customize.  Finally did find one. 

Some may disagree, but I think this is how they should have made that figure... they just didn't take advantage of that face sculpt enough, especially with the coloring they could have done with the eyes.

(http://chewie34.250free.com/EvilPalpatine.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 22, 2005, 12:44 PM
What's weird is that his left side holster looks to be off kilter, uneven with the right side   It looks to be a little higher, and little smaller, or the right one is bigger.  I have a one of Bly's grunts right here in front of me, and both his holsters are dead even.

I think there being only one side arm is the key to unlocking the mystery of the belt. :P

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, only one working holster. :( But I like Jeff's approach for using two sets two make two fully loaded ROTS clones.
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Post by: Vator on October 22, 2005, 01:21 PM
Wow, I'm really behind on these then. I still haven't found Clones or Sith yet.  >:(
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Post by: Jeff on October 25, 2005, 02:13 PM
Good news, we can all just forget the mini-panic I may have caused with my worries from last week (:-[).

I got the following in my JD e-mail box this morning:

"Hello.  I got the clone trooper #2 set this past weekend. The second pistol is not missing, it is included."

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/10-05/rotsclone2.jpg)
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Post by: Jayson on October 25, 2005, 02:35 PM
Cool! I wonder where it's packed in the box?
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Post by: Gatillo on October 25, 2005, 02:54 PM
Could one be packed underneath the other one?  I haven't seen the set myself but these guns are really skinny.

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Post by: LandotheScoundrel on October 25, 2005, 03:01 PM
Could one be packed underneath the other one?  I haven't seen the set myself but these guns are really skinny.



That was what I was thinking. I guess it would make sense.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 26, 2005, 12:32 PM
Amazing how one tiny piece of plastic can cause such happiness.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on October 26, 2005, 04:49 PM
Amazing how one tiny piece of plastic can cause such happiness.

That's what she said :P
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Post by: LandotheScoundrel on October 26, 2005, 05:25 PM
Amazing how one tiny piece of plastic can cause such happiness.

That's what she said :P

Oooooohhhh snap!
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Post by: Famine on October 28, 2005, 01:56 PM
 >:( I finnaly got one, via hook up from D-Reb. I get this badboy out of the box, and ready to open before my Girlfriend can get it and play with them. I get the first Clone out, and he's fantastic. His extra pilot helmet needs a touch up with some paint, but I can do that with my eyes closed. His joints were painted stiff, so I had to work them slightly to loosen them up. Awsome figure. Next I get out the Fellucia grunt. Awsome figure itself, stiff painted joints. I work them, and now he's all set. Sandtrooper on the other hand was painted so thick in black, the arm SNAPPED right the hell off. SNAPPED. I didn't even add much stress, because I was concerned about a break.

Damnit. >:(

Kevin
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Post by: Gatillo on October 28, 2005, 11:17 PM
Seems to me that your sandtrooper was bone dry :P
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Post by: Nirvana on October 29, 2005, 09:03 AM
I still have yet to find one of these...I saw the Anakin evo at KB for a couple weeks, but I refused to pay 25 bucks for it. Maybe I'll get lucky tomorrow. I'm going out with my dad to get his guitar from the repair shop.
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Post by: Reid on October 29, 2005, 07:45 PM
I ordered the 1st varient Clone To Storm Evo set at Wal*Mart.com (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4083628)  :)
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Post by: DarthAcroyear on October 29, 2005, 11:48 PM
I still have yet to find one of these...I saw the Anakin evo at KB for a couple weeks, but I refused to pay 25 bucks for it. Maybe I'll get lucky tomorrow. I'm going out with my dad to get his guitar from the repair shop.

The yellow sets have started to become pretty easy to find in and around here as of late. Say the last two or three weeks.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on October 31, 2005, 02:23 AM
Just saw the update on the main page of pics of the variant set.   Good lord, that Sandtrooper is an amazing paint job.  He practically looks like a different figure.  He must be thirsty, too.   ;)
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Post by: Darth_Anton on October 31, 2005, 09:32 AM
Just saw the update on the main page of pics of the variant set.   Good lord, that Sandtrooper is an amazing paint job.  He practically looks like a different figure.  He must be thirsty, too.   ;)

Right on.  This set is going to break me as this qualify's for mass purchase to me. No more than ten, but that's still 200 bucks. The only saving grace is that I'm not Rob.  ;)
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Post by: Brian on October 31, 2005, 10:16 AM
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Just saw the update on the main page of pics of the variant set.   Good lord, that Sandtrooper is an amazing paint job.  He practically looks like a different figure.  He must be thirsty, too.

I was just looking at the pics as well (nice job once again), and this variant set really looks nice.  Can't wait to pick this up, and hopefully it isn't too tough to find.  I like the paint job on the Sandtrooper as well, and like the grey ROTS clone a lot too.  I might be looking forward to this set more than the first version.
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Post by: JesseVader08 on October 31, 2005, 12:25 PM
Click on the thumbnail to check out Jared's pics:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jbrinkley/tn_evoclone2.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Evolutions/Clone_Trooper_to_Stormtrooper_(Version%202))
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Post by: SpudTrooper on October 31, 2005, 12:30 PM
wow after seeing those pictures, i might as well go pick up five of these. that sandtrooper looks awesome  8)
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Post by: Jeff on October 31, 2005, 01:40 PM
Once again, Amazon.com dropped their date back, revising the expected date to November 15th.

How on earth they have not yet had any of these for sale is beyond words.   ???
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Post by: Brian on October 31, 2005, 01:55 PM
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Once again, Amazon.com dropped their date back, revising the expected date to November 15th.

It is getting quite ridiculous, especially considering that WM.com has had them in stock (and I think, continue to) for a few weeks now.  I also noticed that Amazon was nice enough to raise the price to $22.99 (from $19.99) to reward people for waiting ;).
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Post by: SilverZ on October 31, 2005, 02:11 PM
A couple notes on the set:

The small guns for the ROTS clone are double stacked in the tray.

The gray replacement belt is the same belt as the #41 clone. It's not modified in any way, other than being cut (yes, just cut) open so you can slip it onto the figure. It fits really loose. Same goes for the skirt thing - it's been cut open so it can be removed. They didn't retool these to work like the sandtrooper belt that has a snap-fit button on it.

The red crap on the AOTC and ROTS clones is really distracting. I don't know if its supposed to be rust, or blood, or dust, or what, but on my second set I removed the paint with an abrasive plastic scratch remover and it easily came off. So you can have someting a bit more like clean versions with little work.

The guns are noticeably more silver than the first set. I think I like the look of the ones in the first set better.

The Sandtrooper is damn dirty. I go back and forth on liking it or not. Either way, it's a lot more convincing of a detail job than the first go round. I've noticed that the level of dirt seems to vary from set to set, and I have one that is quite a bit cleaner than the one used in the shots.

The Sandtrooper's backpack also has the wash on it.

I think this set is a vast improvement over the previous on in terms of army building. I figure I at least need a standard set, another set to have a dedicated Clone Pilot and Coruscant Clone, and a third and maybe forth set to build up ones I can clean some of the grime off of for variants.
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Post by: Diddly on October 31, 2005, 06:05 PM
I kind of like the red dust on the AOTC clone. That grunt ROTS Clone is meh, I like him as a commander better. I LOVE the Sandtrooper!

Like the first varient, I'll get 2 sets.

Nice pics, btw! :)
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Post by: Ook on November 1, 2005, 01:23 PM
Is everyone finding the gray clone set? I haven't seen it yet.
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Post by: Jeff on November 1, 2005, 02:09 PM
Is everyone finding the gray clone set? I haven't seen it yet.

The only people I know who have it got it early from overseas or they grabbed it from EE where it appeared briefly this weekend.  It hasn't shown up at the B&M retailers yet that I know of...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on November 1, 2005, 03:01 PM
I haven't heard of it hitting retail either, but I hope that it does soon.  To be honest, I don't think there are any Evolution sets sitting about around here....Anakin, Clones, or Sith.  They all seem to be sold out, although Battle Packs and 500th Vaders seem to be more abundant.  Hopefully that last variant set won't be a pain to find for people.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on November 1, 2005, 03:10 PM
Well, one guy I've traded with seems to have found several of them (he's from California). He has 2 or 3 up for trade. I hoping he'll sell me one....
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Post by: Holographic Elvis on November 1, 2005, 09:15 PM
We got a case of Evolutions in last Friday night but of course I was off so God only knows what was in it.
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Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 1, 2005, 10:37 PM
What stores are people seeing these in?

ie. The White Variant
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Post by: Jeff on November 1, 2005, 10:43 PM
What stores are people seeing these in?

Which ones do you mean? 

The first three have been spotted all over the place - TRU, Target, Wal-Mart.

The 2nd version Clone Set (the gray pack) has only been spotted from overseas sources or from EE (who got them in briefly earlier this week).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on November 1, 2005, 10:56 PM
It hasn't shown up at the B&M retailers yet that I know of...

The 2nd version Clone Set (the gray pack) has only been spotted from overseas sources or from EE...


Oh sure... no sooner do I say this (again) and here come the reports:  :-[

- DeathStarPlans2.com had a Forum Member find the Gray Clone Trooper Evo set at her Kentucky Wal-Mart today

- an e-mailer from California said he found the Gray Clone Trooper Evo at his local Sacrameto Wal-Mart today


So, consider that your first signs that they might be starting to appear at your local Wal-Mart soon I guess. 
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Post by: Jesse James on November 2, 2005, 12:09 AM
I hope they get buttloads of all 3 sets at some point because up till now the entire Evolutions set has been the biggest pain in the rear to find short of variant Clones.  To the point of frustration really.  I've yet to see anything but the Clone set in a store, and the Clone sets I saw weren't too abundant and were gone when I got back to pick up some army building supplies.   I was bummed.
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Post by: Clone On Fire on November 2, 2005, 08:52 AM
I found the 2nd version of the clone set this morning at Walmart.  2 things I really don't like are the blood all over the EII and EIII clones, and the fact that the EIII clone is EU - would have preferred a movie EIII clone.

Other than that, nice set, but not as good as the first version.
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Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 2, 2005, 08:55 AM
I hope they get buttloads of all 3 sets at some point because up till now the entire Evolutions set has been the biggest pain in the rear to find short of variant Clones.  To the point of frustration really.  I've yet to see anything but the Clone set in a store, and the Clone sets I saw weren't too abundant and were gone when I got back to pick up some army building supplies.   I was bummed.

Good news on the Yellow and the Sith sets. Between 4 Targets I hit (3 of them had 2 cases of the Sith and Yellow Clones) and 4 Walmarts (2 had 3 cases of the Sith and Yellow Clone Evolutions)  I saw plenty of Evolution sets hitting. Unfortunetly, no new white Clone variant but at least the others seem to becoming easier to find.
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Post by: Pete_Fett on November 2, 2005, 09:24 AM
Scored an entire case (6 of them) of the gray Clone Evolution sets today. My clone army building has officially reached *sickness* levels.

This was at a Target store. This store also had in PLENTY of the Yellow Clone Evo set and Sith Set
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 2, 2005, 09:32 AM
The hunt begins! thatnk for breaking the news. Hopefully, they make lots!
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Post by: Jeff on November 3, 2005, 11:39 AM
If anyone is interested in the "lazy way" of collecting, I just got my e-mail notice that my Gray Clone Evo sets are shipping from BigBadToyStore.

They are now listed as in-stock (http://www.bbts.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=has11459&mode=retail) for $24 plus shipping if anyone wants to head over and order...

My 2 sets plus shipping cost me $10 more than what I would have paid at retail, but not having to waste gas and time to try to track these variants down is worth the $10 to me. 

I hate shopping at this time of the year - too many Moms and Grandmas in the Toy aisle...  :P
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Post by: SilverZ on November 3, 2005, 12:22 PM
It's good to see the online guys coming back onto Hasbro's radar after an entire year of ignoring them to fill B&M orders. It's been near impossible to get anything in a reasonable amount of time online versus hitting the pavement and hunting stores.

I'm sick to death of the level of dedication its taken this year to track down items, and if I never see the inside of another Target or Toys R Us this year I'll be happy. I'll gladly pay a few bucks more to save me that stress.
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Post by: Pete_Fett on November 3, 2005, 12:47 PM
Yeah - $10 more to get two of them w/o having the hassle of frequently hitting the store or gas costs is definitely a easy trade (especially with the current cost of gas)...

This is a GREAT set - I prefer it over the yellow version. The Kama on the ROTS trooper is SUPER cool with the different paint design on the back. I have these two commanders standing with the gray clones that came in the Target Assault on Coruscant battle pack.
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Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 3, 2005, 01:31 PM
Jeff, I love BBTS and thanks for the link. I just placed my order because the extra shipping and $4 is worth it not to have to hunt it down in the stores. This makes it so I only have to get the Twins and the Shadow Trooper and I'm done!  Good old Joel at BBTS!
Helps also since I am going back on track for the next 10 weeks (minus holiday times) so now I can focus on my kids/students and my teaching!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on November 3, 2005, 04:37 PM
Scored an entire case (6 of them) of the gray Clone Evolution sets today. My clone army building has officially reached *sickness* levels.

Don't these come 4 to a case?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on November 3, 2005, 04:40 PM
Yes… either a 4 Clone assortment or 3 Clones & 1 Sith asssortment
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Post by: Jeff on November 3, 2005, 04:40 PM
Don't these come 4 to a case?

Yes.  And there seems to be two different assortments shipping:

3x Clone Set #2 and 1x Sith Set
or
4x Clone Set #2


Bah!  Beat me by 20 seconds...  :-[
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on November 3, 2005, 04:50 PM
So it sounds like Pete actually scored two cases of them.
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Post by: rishakra on November 3, 2005, 05:18 PM
You know that actually sounds like a decent case breakdown.  If only they would ship the basic figures like that.  Lots of any new clone type figure in the 1st wave.  I bet they will do something silly and ship 2 each of the new figures in the Cody wave.   Everyone know they would "really" need to ship 4 or 5 Cody's.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Reid on November 3, 2005, 06:24 PM
My Clone Evo set arrived today.  :) I'll do a review later.
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Post by: Pete_Fett on November 3, 2005, 11:32 PM
Yeah - my bad on the number of case estimate. When there were six there and since I got there right when they opened, I had forgotten these things ship in cases of four, not six and since I remembered this variation was supposed to ship in solid cases, I just assumed that it was one case.

Sorry for any confusion....

But what I most definitely saw were TWO cases that had been put out and I left behind the two Sith Evo sets that came with them.
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Post by: Ook on November 4, 2005, 12:34 AM
Anyone have the DCPI for the gray set? Does Walmart have an in house numering system or do they use UPCs?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on November 4, 2005, 08:42 AM
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If anyone is interested in the "lazy way" of collecting, I just got my e-mail notice that my Gray Clone Evo sets are shipping from BigBadToyStore.

They are now listed as in-stock for $24 plus shipping if anyone wants to head over and order...

My 2 sets plus shipping cost me $10 more than what I would have paid at retail, but not having to waste gas and time to try to track these variants down is worth the $10 to me.

I hate shopping at this time of the year - too many Moms and Grandmas in the Toy aisle...

Although I hated to do it, I went ahead and ordered a set as well.  There haven't been any evolutions sets at Target or Wal-Mart around here for a couple of months, and I never did see the 1st Clone set or Sith Lords at retail either.  Now that I've paid a little extra to get one online, they should show up everywhere now :).  I really wanted to be sure to have at least one set of the "gray" version, so I went ahead and ordered one.
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Post by: Jeff on November 4, 2005, 09:30 AM
Anyone have the DCPI for the gray set? Does Walmart have an in house numering system or do they use UPCs?

The DPCI is the same as the old ont for the Evo sets -
087-06-1357

And yes, Wal-Mart tracks things by the UPC (which I don't have, sorry).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on November 4, 2005, 07:01 PM
Finally found a Sith set today, it feels good to have finally caught up on these, at least until the white Clone varient shows up. The only set I really had trouble getting was the Anakin set, since I had to get a Target employee to get it from the back. Of course, once I find it, they never show up again.

Hopefully the white varient shows up en masse.
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Post by: DarthAcroyear on November 4, 2005, 11:19 PM
I got a phone call from a friend a couple of hours ago to let me know that he had just found the gray/white Clone Evolution sets here in Indy. The guy even picked up two extra sets for me while he was there!

If this set looks half as nice in person as they do in some of the photos I've seen, I'll be quite happy.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on November 5, 2005, 03:10 AM
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7710.0;id=693;image)

Yeah, that guy sure does look like he stepped behind soemthing with a bad case of projectile squirts. Mine's funny ... His chest looks like someone dabbed the dirt on with a tiny cotton ball.

You know, I like the way that guy looks like he's been blasted to hell and still keeps truckin'. The helmet on mine is too clean, and check out the funny spotted chest.

(http://myo.homestead.com/files/Toys/sandtroopers.jpg)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on November 6, 2005, 02:45 PM
I noticed the helmets for the AOTC Evo II figs are clean as a whistle. Oddly, so are the forearms and hands. ??? It's a hell of a contrast to the filthy bodies.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on November 7, 2005, 11:12 PM
Anyone want a grey set for yellow?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on November 8, 2005, 07:52 PM
I just picked up 2 of the Gray sets today, totally blown away by the fact I found them. I don't have the Yellow set with me to compare, but I think they may have overdone the paint ops a bit on this new set. The "blood" on the AOTC Clone just looks weird, has no flow to it and the staining on the Sandtrooper looks more like his armor is rusting than he went through a sandstorm. Once I get home, I'll be able to compare better, but I'm just so damn glad I found these guys and I can stop looking now...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on November 9, 2005, 01:18 AM
So I'm playing with my new Evolutions Clones (I've yet to really take the time to compare the two sets) and I found something interesting that I don't believe I've seen mentioned. Pardon me in advance if this has been brought up, I just really didn't want to look through 50 pages of this thread for this...

The belt on the Sandtrooper is completely removable at the ammo pouch on the right side. If you pull on the pouch, the belt will come apart as there is a tab that goes into the pouch to secure it into place. I thought this was just for the Grey Clone set, since the belts for the ROTS Clone are removable, but I checked the Yellow Clone set and the Sandtrooper belt there is removable. A nice little feature, which while not doing much, does show that the halfass job they did for the Clone belts is unexcusable.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 9, 2005, 01:53 AM
I'm very happy with the Grey clone set. For the record, I noticed that the right hand of the Sandtrooper was resculpted with a bigger grip.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2005, 11:09 AM
I had a chance before bed last night to check out my Gray Clone Evo sets that arrived in the mail.  I must say I am quite pleased with these Clone Evo sets (the first version and this alternate).

I like the weathering (the red "dust" is a bit much on the clones) and I really like the sculpt.  I bought two sets, so I think I'll set these guys up on the shelf in each of the versions - 1x Ep2 Trooper & 1x Ep2 Pilot and 1x Ep 3 Gray Officer & 1x Ep3 Gray Grunt.

I really wish these sets would continue.  I'd love to see more Clones get cranked out this way... I've seen so many possible clone sets in all our various Evolutions threads:

Ep2 - Clone Captain (Red)
Ep3 - Shocktrooper
Ep4 - Sandtrooper (Black Pauldron/CLEAN - no battle damage, no mud)

Ep2 - Clone Trooper (White/Clean)
Ep3 - Galactic Marine
Ep5 - Snowtrooper

Ep2 - Clone Officer (Green)
Ep3 - BARC Trooper
Ep6 - Scout Trooper

Ep2 - Clone Officer (Blue)
Ep3 - 501st Trooper
Ep4 - Stormtrooper


The possibilities are endless...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Bobafett77 on November 9, 2005, 11:16 AM

I like the weathering (the red "dust" is a bit much on the clones) and I really like the sculpt. 

I was just posting about this. I'm leaning a little more towards this red dirt to be blood.  The Tactical Ops Trooper was the first to have this and now this set. Geonosis is the only plant remember seeing any red dirt and I may be wrong but I don't remember seeing any 501st on Geonosis...  ??? All in all though I'm really happy with the Gray Clone set as well. I will say though that I don't remember seeing the Gray Grunts in the movie. Does anyone know what scene these are in?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2005, 11:29 AM
I will say though that I don't remember seeing the Gray Grunts in the movie. Does anyone know what scene these are in?

The easiest place to spot them is when Yoda is getting ready to leave for Kashyyyk.  The gray grunts are all over the place there...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on November 9, 2005, 11:37 AM
The Gray grunts are the ones that come in the Clone Attack on Coruscant Battle Pack (with Blue Bacara) I don't recall seeing the Gray Commander though in that scene.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 10, 2005, 01:20 AM
I had a chance before bed last night to check out my Gray Clone Evo sets that arrived in the mail.  I must say I am quite pleased with these Clone Evo sets (the first version and this alternate).

I like the weathering (the red "dust" is a bit much on the clones) and I really like the sculpt.  I bought two sets, so I think I'll set these guys up on the shelf in each of the versions - 1x Ep2 Trooper & 1x Ep2 Pilot and 1x Ep 3 Gray Officer & 1x Ep3 Gray Grunt.

I really wish these sets would continue.  I'd love to see more Clones get cranked out this way... I've seen so many possible clone sets in all our various Evolutions threads:

Ep2 - Clone Captain (Red)
Ep3 - Shocktrooper
Ep4 - Sandtrooper (Black Pauldron/CLEAN - no battle damage, no mud)

Ep2 - Clone Trooper (White/Clean)
Ep3 - Galactic Marine
Ep5 - Snowtrooper

Ep2 - Clone Officer (Green)
Ep3 - BARC Trooper
Ep6 - Scout Trooper

Ep2 - Clone Officer (Blue)
Ep3 - 501st Trooper
Ep4 - Stormtrooper


The possibilities are endless...

But, my money ain't. ;)

Geeze, I would go so broke if they did this. Hasbro, take a note.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 10, 2005, 01:28 AM
Ep2 - Clone Captain (Red)
Ep3 - Shocktrooper
Ep4 - Sandtrooper (Black Pauldron/CLEAN - no battle damage, no mud)

Ep2 - Clone Trooper (White/Clean)
Ep3 - Galactic Marine
Ep5 - Snowtrooper

Ep2 - Clone Officer (Green)
Ep3 - BARC Trooper
Ep6 - Scout Trooper

Ep2 - Clone Officer (Blue)
Ep3 - 501st Trooper
Ep4 - Stormtrooper


The possibilities are endless...

Put me down for 2 sets of each.   ;)

Easy money, Hasbro.  Easy money.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: rishakra on November 10, 2005, 07:45 AM
That would be super cool but if they used a new or Super Articulated body for the Snowtrooper and Scout trooper I'd cry because I'd have so little money for food...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2005, 09:07 AM
Great ideas Jeff, and I'd be down for all of those as well.  Definitely easy money for Hasbro.  Make a nice, SA sculpt of the Biker Scout and Snowtrooper, then modify them to a BARC trooper and Mygeeto clone, four great new trooper figures.  All great ideas.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Bobafett77 on November 10, 2005, 10:24 AM
Those sets would EASILY sell out! Someone might want to send them a link to this thread. ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SpudTrooper on November 12, 2005, 02:14 AM
has anyone opened their Clone EVO v.2 yet? is your ROTS Trooper's belt loose cuz mine is for sum reason, cant really pose the dude  ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on November 12, 2005, 02:16 AM
has anyone opened their Clone EVO v.2 yet? is your ROTS Trooper's belt loose cuz mine is for sum reason, cant really pose the dude  ::)

Yeah, they don't snap on or anything. Pretty sloppy.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Greg on November 12, 2005, 08:58 PM
Are the Clone Set version 1, Anakin to Darth Vader, and the Sith sets still shipping? I haven't been able to get these.  :'(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: MetalJedi on November 12, 2005, 10:17 PM
I know the Clone v.1 and Sith ones are still shipping. As for the Anakin one I haven't seen it in awhile
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Greg on November 12, 2005, 10:30 PM
Alright, thanks. It's hard for me to get bigger stuff with my $5 a week allowance.  ::) And I can't drive. But hopefully I'll find them.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 13, 2005, 03:31 PM
Alright, thanks. It's hard for me to get bigger stuff with my $5 a week allowance.  ::) And I can't drive. But hopefully I'll find them.

Chrismas is coming. Time to start dropping hints. ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 13, 2005, 05:19 PM
Chrismas is coming. Time to start dropping hints. ;)

Good advice for all of us.   :D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 13, 2005, 05:36 PM
Alright, thanks. It's hard for me to get bigger stuff with my $5 a week allowance.  ::) And I can't drive. But hopefully I'll find them.

You know, one of the GREATEST presents is of course cash, or gift cards to Walmart and Target, maybe TRU.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on November 14, 2005, 08:47 AM
Of course, after ordering a set of the Clone to Stormtrooper (version 2), I see 2 of them on the shelves at Target this weekend.  We hadn't seen any Evolutions sets around here for quite some time, but this weekend I saw a total of 4 yellow clone sets, 3 sith sets, and 2 grey clone sets....all at Target.  No Anakin to Vader ones in town though, surprisingly.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 15, 2005, 02:23 AM
Don't feel too bad. This is how I looked at it. I drove about 30 miles a night hitting 3 Walmarts looking for these things. I spent 8 nights doing this so if you add it up, I went 240 miles. My Altima gets 28 mpg (yes, I'm anal and keep track of my mph in a small notebook).  So I spent 240 miles divided by 28 or 8.57 gallons of gas. Gas here costs $2.10 ($2.099 which I hate because it is really $2.10 in my mind) so I spent $18 dollars in gas trying to find em. That means if I add that to the cost of the set at $20 I spent $38 trying to find em.
I ordered a set through BBTS and it came to just over $29 so I'll say $30 and in my book that is well worth the cost since my time is even more valuable then the cash.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 15, 2005, 09:58 AM
I was messing around with my clones last night and noticed that the Clone Gunner (and 501st) helemt, which is smaller, fits perfectly on the ROTS clone. I wonder why they resculpted and up-scaled the helmet on this one? It's one of the few, minor flaws of the set IMO.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on November 15, 2005, 12:35 PM
My clone evolutions from Amazon finally shipped today ::)  I'd received emails from them for delays and one had indicated they would cancel my order if I didn't respond.  Well, I didn't respond and my order was processed anyway.  So the few times I've seen them and not purchased them seems to have been a bit of karma.  Not a clue which version is coming, so we'll wait and see.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Deanpaul on November 15, 2005, 05:14 PM
My Altima gets 28 mph (yes, I'm anal and keep track of my mph in a small notebook). 

Your Altima only goes 28 miles per hour? How do you drive on the freeway?

You really need to get that checked. No wonder it takes so long for you to drive to my house.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jayson on November 15, 2005, 05:38 PM
I thinkk he meant MPG (Miles per gallon)  ;)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 15, 2005, 11:10 PM
Nah, DeanPaul. It takes me so long because I have only been there a few times and we usually meet in a motel . . . .


Joke.

I did mean mpg. Good catch DP! Guess I need a new car eh?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Deanpaul on November 16, 2005, 01:37 AM
I thinkk he meant MPG (Miles per gallon)  ;)

I know, but that's not what he said. TBD is a friend and I chose to lighten up this super serious thread at his expense.

And I thinkk you meant think. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 16, 2005, 08:49 AM
Its also even funnier since I am a techur adn I shuld cutch tings like that.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on November 16, 2005, 08:51 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Kill_Solo on November 16, 2005, 09:17 PM
Walmart.com has the Grey Clone tRooper Evolutions In Stock right now .....

Grey Clone trooper Evolutions @ Walmart.com (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4383897)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 16, 2005, 11:27 PM
Yeah, $24.35 with shipping is better then the $29.30 I paid to BBTS BUT I sure like BBTS and their customer service is far better then Wally. That and I know I'll get blasted for saying this I really don't mind paying the extra $5 and giving my business to someone other then Walmart.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2005, 11:38 PM
No reason to blast you over that...  I'm not a WM fan myself given how their stores are usually a blight on any community they enter...  I can't stand going into them (generally...  There's one nice out of the way WM I hit often) most of the time and only do so out of necessity with this hobby.  Target's more my taste since I just find them to be more efficient and easier to navigate...  Equally pissy employees, but generally cleaner and less packed stores.

I wish Etailers were just more reliable and competitive or I'd go to them constantly I'm sure.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 20, 2005, 11:14 AM
How do these sell in your area?

I'm curious because I would like to see these continue in '06 and would like to know if Hasbro can justify not continueing the line be claiming that the did not sell well.

Here in LA, CA, they are not impossible to get, but they constantly sell out in a few days. When I was in PA and NC, they were easier to find and certainly shelf warmed to a certain extent.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 20, 2005, 11:19 AM
They hit and the grey ones are gone quickly right now. The sith and the yellow sit for several days and then are gone. I know a local grocery store chain got the yellow clones in and marked them at $18.99.  They sold 3 in 1 day and I'm sure the others age gone by now. I don't think Hasbro can claim (while they might) these did not do well. Guess the question is for the number they produced did it generate the profit that would justify continuing to make more.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SpudTrooper on November 21, 2005, 02:18 AM
lol i tore open another of my Grey Clone EVOs today from the back and found a hidden treasure...


a Fall 2005 Hasbro catalog.  ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jim on November 21, 2005, 05:27 PM
Not sure if this happened to anyone else, but the plastic on the Clone pack is pretty brittle and I broke my second Clone this weekend at the joints on the arms.  They sure dont move easily.  So anyone posing these use some care.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nirvana on November 21, 2005, 08:28 PM
I still haven't found one of the darn things! I've seen Ani Evolutions at KB like a month ago but didn't buy it. It's the only one I've seen so far.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on November 22, 2005, 12:13 AM
I've seen barely anything of them either Darth_Nirvana...

Out in Greensburg I ran into the Clones at TRU...  I think I saw one Clone set then at Target at a later date but that was it.  I never saw Sith, and never saw Anakin.  I had to rely on friends online and within the local Pittsburgh collecting group to pick those up for me.  :(

It really sucks that the best stuff Hasbro makes is the stuff you can't ever seem to find.  Shocktroopers are a case in point.  Non-existant out here unless you JUSt happened to be there at the right time...  That's it.  And once they shipped and are were gone, they were gone...  no more it seemed.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nirvana on November 23, 2005, 03:46 PM
I found three shocktroopers, they weren't a problem for me. It's the Evolutions...I saw the same Ani set for 2 weeks at KB, and saw the Sith once at WalMart, and I thought, stupidly, "I don't need to buy them now, they'll keep coming in!"

Wrong.

I haven't seen any yet. Just empty shelf space.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on November 23, 2005, 06:10 PM
Well, my suggestion is Wal-Mart.com man.  It's a haven.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on November 23, 2005, 06:43 PM
The sets are really hit and miss around here. Anakin I've only seen on the shelf at KB, though I got mine at Target with the DCPI number. The Clone sets hit Wal-Mart by the dozen one day, but were quickly gone after I got my two. I saw two more at Target, when I got my Sith set. I'm hoping I stumble across the Grey Clone set soon, if not I'll go to Walmart.com.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2005, 08:08 AM
http://www.brianstoys.com/bvc2004/search.aspx?Keyword=Holiday+Special

Check out Brian's Toys because they've got the Evolutions sets listed under their "Holiday Special" and the price is under retail actually. 

There's some good prices on other stuff too including the obscenely priced EE Clones.  A set of 16 comes to about $5 per figure before shipping...  And the fact they're listed on sale further reinforces to me that these weren't the "hot" item they were touted as around the net because they were so overpriced.   ::)

Anyway, not bad prices there on those Evo's including the 2nd Clone set.  I may need to put an order in even.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: rishakra on November 24, 2005, 09:57 AM
There are actually some good deals at Brianstoys.com under that special.  I can't believe I actually said that!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DarthAcroyear on November 24, 2005, 04:15 PM
There are actually some good deals at Brianstoys.com under that special.  I can't believe I actually said that!

Wow, I don't believe I've ever seen anyone say that. ??? Ever! :o


Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nirvana on November 24, 2005, 04:52 PM
That's a pretty good deal for Clone Evo variant...15 bucks.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nirvana on November 26, 2005, 12:38 PM
I think all the times that I couldn't find the Evolutions' sets all added up on Black Friday- I found FIVE Clone Evo sets at Target and MediaPlay, 2 yellow and 3 gray. I only bought one gray one because I used up all my ohter money and Kmart and WalMart. The gray Clone set is probably the best of the best.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: ruiner on November 28, 2005, 04:32 PM
Yeah, that Brian's Toys is a bargain.

$15 for the set - $8.18 for shipping and handling.

Get bent.

 >:(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 07:35 PM
Actually though that still comes to less than if you ordered it most any place else (WM.com even), so it's not bad really when you think about it ruiner.  Yeah it's a screwjob in principle on the shipping/handling though, that's pretty blatant, but they're still better than most other places. 

Wouldn't pay too much less buying it at retail really, especially if you had high tax % in your area.

I got one and a VOTC Fett since that was around retail price, and I was pretty pleased with the purchase (so far...  haven't gotten the package yet though).
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Stim on November 29, 2005, 11:04 PM
My clone evolutions from Amazon finally shipped today ::)  I'd received emails from them for delays and one had indicated they would cancel my order if I didn't respond.  Well, I didn't respond and my order was processed anyway.  So the few times I've seen them and not purchased them seems to have been a bit of karma.  Not a clue which version is coming, so we'll wait and see.

Which version did you end up getting?
Title: Clone Trooper Evolution Packs.
Post by: Clone Commander on December 26, 2005, 12:50 AM
I need to know if they are worth it.
I am thinking of buying 4 of them off ebay for 125 $ in total Yellow versions.
What are your opinions on them?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on December 26, 2005, 03:15 AM
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/search-ng.gsp?search_constraint=0&search_query=Clone+Evolutions&ics=20&ico=0
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on December 26, 2005, 08:45 AM
Getting more AOTC pilots is worth it to me.  The ROTS clone is ok.  The sandtrooper is all about the gadgets.   I would not pay more than 20 for a set ever.  I did not even pay 20 for mine, I got them on sale for 18.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on December 26, 2005, 04:24 PM
I need the grey versions, and lots of em'.
I bought 2 Yellows off ebay at 56.34$ which is better than paying 60-70$ here, and thats if you can find them.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on December 26, 2005, 09:42 PM
I do not know where you are located so my advice might be fruitless but Walmart.com carries evolutions in stock quite regularly, they had them yesterday when I checked.  Hasbro.com was carrying the grey ones and so what kbkids.com.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on December 27, 2005, 04:51 AM
Well thats Wal-Mart .com ...they dont ship to Canada.
So I use eBay.
Wal-Mart.ca cant help crap, they are basically useless.
 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 27, 2005, 11:08 AM
Really sorry to hear that. I hate to see anyone needlessly over pay.


To sum up the evolutions, I can't believe how well these have sold, at least around here. When I picked my gray ones up (when they were released,) I saw them for about a week afterwords, and there were pleanty. But, they sold quick and I virtualy never saw them again.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on December 27, 2005, 07:02 PM
I am still looking for the grey versions.
I wont see em' in Winnipeg, I have only seen the Sith Lords once.
Now I am kicking myself for not buying it when I saw it.
Same with a time I saw a #6 Clone Trooper at Zellers and didnt get it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Greg on December 28, 2005, 09:23 PM
I'm still having trouble with getting the Anakin to Vader, Clone Set Version 1, and the Sith set. My local Targets removed the shelf tags, my local Wal-Mart never carried these, I've checked the local flea market, no luck, and I haven't checked TRU. Did TRU even carry these? For the clone sets, I may go with Wal-Mart.com, Entertainment Earth, or K&C Collectibles. Are these going to continue to ship with the Saga line, or were they just for the ROTS line?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on December 28, 2005, 11:43 PM
They are just for the revenge of the sith line.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Dhivael on December 28, 2005, 11:44 PM
has anyone continued to see any of the older yellow clone sets?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Greg on December 29, 2005, 10:50 AM
The last time I saw a yellow clone set was at Suncoast back in November, but now it's long gone. In fact, that was the last Evolutions set I have ever seen on a store shelf.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on December 29, 2005, 04:29 PM
I see them on ebay lots.
I dont see why the 2nd version is more expensive.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Greg on December 29, 2005, 11:05 PM
Maybe the second version had less distribution. Personally, I had seen all but the 2nd clone set on store shelves at least once. The two clone trooper sets I have are both the gray ones, I had to order one online and my Aunt got me another for Christmas. The set could be like almost all other variants as well, really hard to find.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on December 30, 2005, 05:45 AM
By my estimation the Anakin and Sith Lords sets are the "rare" ones of the bunch, which is ironic considering people thought they would wind up being the shelfwarmers...  Fact of the matter is though that Evolutions saw very spotty distribution to most areas, and were something that if you blinked you missed them.

In Pittsburgh I know I never once saw Anakin or Sith Lords sets on the shelves, nor the Grey Clone set.  The Yellow set I saw at Toys R Us once and never again.  People have said that Suncoast had some in here and there at inflated prices, and I know KB around here had the Anakin set because some of the locals reported seeing it.  Also the Sith Lord set was at Target because my buddy got mine there for me. 

They were definitely not heavily shipped though.  There aren't even many at the local Toy Show which is generally a sign of where things went.  When you see little of something there though, it generally was just genuinely a hard to find item.

If it weren't for WM.com I probably would have not found a lot of what I wanted...  I'm still not up to where I want to be with the Clone Evo sets and I'm just waiting to have some cash reserves to get a few extras.

Hasbro has a cash cow with these...  They should re-release them.  Hell the 2 Clones in the set would be great re-releases on basic cards with varying paintjobs...  Not super articulated, but close enough to be worth buying.

The Sandtrooper's a hell of a lot better than the POTJ sculpt or anything else we've seen.  Hell I'd buy it in pure white as a Stormtrooper too.  Again, not SA but passable enough to me to army build with.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on December 30, 2005, 08:46 AM
Damn it!
I saw Sith Lords twice at Toys R Us and I have never seen it again.
Same with the ARC-170.
I cant wait to get my 2 off eBay but I still need to get a lot of white ones...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 30, 2005, 10:37 AM
I'm still having trouble with getting the Anakin to Vader, Clone Set Version 1, and the Sith set.

Back in mid October, I saw these sitting at WM and Target an hour west of where you are. :(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Greg on December 30, 2005, 11:15 AM
Ive seen them before at other stores near me, but even if you had told me, I would've undoubtoubly not had money to get them. It really stinks for me as I only make $5 in allowance each week. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on December 31, 2005, 08:21 PM
Tell me about it, whenever you want something by the time you get the money for it its gone.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Rob on January 5, 2006, 12:36 PM
Around me Anakin and all of the Clones were all over the place.  The Sith Lords was definitely the rarer of the bunch.  I bought 15 Yellow Clone sets and 5 white Clone sets and I passed up dozens upon dozens more of each.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on January 5, 2006, 02:17 PM
 :-\ Augh, another good reason to move to the States...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2006, 11:18 PM
No, just Texas.  :)

I swear that's the land of milk and honey for finding ****.  Everywhere else sucks though, save for perhaps Darth Slothus' area of operation in Cali.

I can attest that Pittsburgh had NOTHING near the quantity Rob was fortunate enough to get. :)  If you're moving to the States, keep on going once you cross the border because we ain't got jack or **** in Pittsburgh and Jack just skipped town.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on January 5, 2006, 11:29 PM
So Jesse, if I come in March and Pittsberg has **** for figures, I can blame you 100%?

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2006, 11:51 PM
No, as I have warned you, and you are now responsible.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on January 6, 2006, 12:19 AM
Actually, Jesse, just Dallas.  :) In Austin, I saw 2 Sith sets once (snagged one), and no Anakin sets (got one with the Target DCPI). Yellow Clone sets hit a Wal-Mart in large numbers one day, but were quickly bought. I have yet to see a White Clone set. And we currently have bare pegs everywhere.

I'd say Dallas and Los Angeles are the best places for figures in the US. :-*
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2006, 06:39 AM
Yeah Matt's always had good luck when he had a heavy commute as I recall, I'm sure he can relay any further data, but the JediMAC always did well compared to what I was finding, haha.  And I know Slothus has great luck out that direction...  And Rob just boggles my mind.  I wish I could have found half the army builders he has.

I'm still sorta desperate for VOTC Stormtroopers and it kills me not having more than one Wookiee Heavy Gunner. T hat figure kicks so much ass I want at least 5 but I found one and one only.  And that sucks ass, to put it quite simple.

VOTC Stormies I found, but never in the numbers that I can say I passed on them.  And I got a number through trades too.  I found probably 20 on my own though, maybe slightly less like 15, and most at full price.  That was great to me at the time but I hear some people found dozens and some at as low as $3 each...  I'm just astonished and wish I had had such good fortune.  It's a figure I'd still be buying if I saw it.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 6, 2006, 05:38 PM
LOL...

The way I find stuffs

purchased 26 shock troopers- traded all but one and it's spoken for!
black pilots saw about 20 in stores..bought half that many
evos yellow saw about 50 in stores over 2 month period-purchased only 2
        grey/white each of my 4 wal marts had these about 8 each on shelf for
        about 3 weeks then never saw them again
twins sets....sat on shelfs at wm's for about 3 weeks then never seen again
Still have several target clones ::)
gree/bly saw literally hundreds  and stayed on shelfs for a while

I have 4 WM's, 2 Targets,1 KB, I TRU, 1 Kmart in my area and not alot of collectors in my area ;)+ things sit. There was still CW cartoon packs 2 weeks after setting at WM's here. I only bought 9(18) sets for trading purposes

Hey I find alot of stuff  but disperse it to others for NO mark-up so I can brag.

Jesse- I saw 2 hidden Wookie HG's 2 nites ago at WM-need me to go back and see if there still there? 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on January 11, 2006, 11:43 PM
Quote
And we currently have bare pegs everywhere.

Your telling me!
So far every wal-mart or superstore is empty.
Not even a single mon mothma and I was gonna army build!! :P
Its almost sad that by the time I move to orlando to possibly work for disney studios as an artist Star Wars will be long dead.  :'(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2006, 01:07 AM
Slothus, by aall means if you can, and if those Target Clones are on clearance I'm all for them too actually.  The Heavy Gunner's one I didn't really get though, much less army build with.  :(  I love the Preview sculpt too, so I was thoroughly bummed at that.

Just let me know man.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Mikey D on January 13, 2006, 11:16 AM
Have evolutions always been $22.99 at TRU?  I stopped by one yesterday on the off chance they might have anything I need (no such luck).  They had about four each of the Sith and Grey Clones priced at the aforementioned cost.  I'm not 100% certain because I bought all my Evos at Target, but I could have sworn that they were $19.99 at TRU also.  Did TRU increase the price on these?  If so, great move by them.  Like they can afford to lose any more business.  ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone On Fire on January 13, 2006, 11:18 AM
Have evolutions always been $22.99 at TRU?  I stopped by one yesterday on the off chance they might have anything I need (no such luck).  They had about four each of the Sith and Grey Clones priced at the aforementioned cost.  I'm not 100% certain because I bought all my Evos at Target, but I could have sworn that they were $19.99 at TRU also.  Did TRU increase the price on these?  If so, great move by them.  Like they can afford to lose any more business.  ::)

Evolutions are $23.99 at my TRU now but were $19.99 before January 1st.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Mikey D on January 13, 2006, 11:25 AM
Ok, so I wasn't losing my mind.  But why the increase?  That's plain retarded.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on January 13, 2006, 07:04 PM
Ok, so I wasn't losing my mind.  But why the increase?  That's plain retarded.

I'd imagine it has something to do with the store closings. TRU seeems to be heading down the same path as KB toys, all of their prices have gotten higher laterly it seems, maybe if they would quit buying 100 Millenium Falcons in each repacked box, they would be able to offer better prices on eveything else. ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on January 13, 2006, 11:47 PM
I love TRU...well to a limit.
I was so lucky to find a #33 commander there and also Bacara but I didnt have enough money with me and I passed up a SA Trooper for bacara.
Anyways.
I havent seen a single clone evo set at all.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on January 14, 2006, 08:09 AM
I too saw a gray Evo for over $20 at TRU recently. $22.99 I think. I don't care for my local TRU. They still have VOTC Lando for $10.99 and I never find new stuff there.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on January 17, 2006, 07:37 PM
Man, I just took one of my extra yellow AOTC figures out of the package and promptly snapped the arm off at the elbow. :'(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on January 17, 2006, 08:31 PM
Sorry to hear, but it happened with my Sandtrooper.

Very frustrating.

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on January 17, 2006, 09:30 PM
I've gotten in the habit of really working (carefully) all joints on all figures for a time.  Some of the construction is done so that you have to just sorta wear it out slightly at first... 

With other toy lines it's that the finish/paint ap dries and if you try working joints too hard it'll snap the joint off because it's stuck.  That's a problem with the XD line.  SW doesn't have that, but they do have joints that are almost too tightly designed and need loosened up, or "worn out" a little bit to really be playable without breakage.  The Evo sets definitely had a fragile aspect to them though.  I'm cool with that for their quality overall, but yeah these were fragile for "toys".  Which is odd because the SA Clone basics were not that way.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on January 17, 2006, 09:47 PM
thats nothin' I went to 2 tru's last week and I saw all Landos at one and all madine at the other.
No evolutions though.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on January 18, 2006, 12:15 PM
I've gotten in the habit of really working (carefully) all joints on all figures for a time.

Yeah, I was actually very careful because I had heard about these things breaking. I've learned to press in on the joint rather than bending the limb. It just instantly snapped. Not too big a deal though, fortunately. It was an extra I would've traded, and I got it on sale anyway.

Sorry to hear, but it happened with my Sandtrooper.

Did you return it? ???
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Greg on January 22, 2006, 10:01 PM
I recently got my Yellow Clone evolution set from Wal-Mart.com, and I was very scared about opening it after reading all of these reports of breaking arms. I open it anyway(I'm an opener.) and guess what...        none of the arms broke!!! ;D Boy was I relieved.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2006, 01:29 AM
I have a sizeable army of these sets and not one broke, so don't worry...  It's less than more tthat it happens, but yeah breaking joints can happen all over the line.

Just care when "loosening" up joints is needed, and you should be fine.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on January 25, 2006, 10:48 PM
YES!!!!
I have gotten 2 version 1 evolutions sets in the mail!
I got them off eBay for 70$ in total and I like em' but I spent alot.
I have opened one and the other is going into my closet for storage and out of the light.
But the way hasbro is spilling clones all over the place I will crap my pants if I find a clone pilot...
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Diddly on January 25, 2006, 11:22 PM
Well Wal-Mart.com sold out of White Clone sets, so I ordered a set off Amazon for $23. It hurts, but at least I'll have one now. :)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 4, 2006, 12:41 PM
Well thats not as bad as 30-35$ on ebay for the gray.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: exjedi on February 5, 2006, 04:23 PM
Sorry to hear, but it happened with my Sandtrooper.

Very frustrating.

Kevin

Yep, made the same mistake myself, snapped it off right at the elbow. 

I just leave them standing there in posed position anyway, so no big deal to me.  I just glued the sucker into place and made sure to twist the elbows around on the rest to loosen the joints up before making the same mistake again.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 6, 2006, 05:28 PM
Okay, I need to know.
Is the Anakin evolution pack any good?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jeff on February 6, 2006, 05:31 PM
Okay, I need to know.
Is the Anakin evolution pack any good?

Click the photo below and find out!  ;)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/reviews/rots/anakinevo.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/reviews/anakinevo.php)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 6, 2006, 08:32 PM
Cool!
Thanks Jeff.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2006, 12:46 AM
*Flexes his review muscles*

:)

I loved the Anakin set myself...  It gives you 3 definitive versions of the character and since I don't care about the kid version I'm ok with this for Ani...  I'd dig some EU ones maybe but for the films, this is 99% good enough for me.  Only new film one I want is an outlander disguise one.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 7, 2006, 05:46 PM
Well I will have to buy an anni evolution set then.
-sigh-
Money in the bank for Hasbro.  ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on February 7, 2006, 10:52 PM
Must-have set, man. Vader is awesome; Ep III Anakin is about the only version worth owning; Padawan Anakin is a badass figure even if the face isn't quite right. I love this set. Vader and Anakin III are 2 of my fave figs! ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 7, 2006, 11:39 PM
Excellent!
I might even pick up another clone evo set.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 11, 2006, 01:22 AM
Okay, I am going to the store tomorrow to pick up an anni evo set!  ;D
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on February 11, 2006, 02:37 AM
I've had Vader lying on his back sans helmet/hand with Saga Luke kneeling (as best as that fig can kneel) next to him for a month or two. Great scene. I just moved them today. Vader's now standing with his helmet off, holding his stump*; Luke's standing next to him reaching his arm out in a gesture to save him. It's a really great reversal of symbolism consdering how Vader reached out to Luke on Cloud City, not to save his son, but to lure him.



*Would be perfect if they had sculpted/painted the post look like his severed wires!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on February 11, 2006, 03:07 AM
On an Ani Evolutions note I got one tonight at Suncoast for retail after a 20% markdown from their pricehike.

They  are I guess closing shop around Pittsburgh, at least all but one store maybe, so good for me but bad for the area since Suncoast was the only place with bust-ups in any capacity anymore.  Kind of a bummer.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 11, 2006, 11:06 AM
I will hopefully get one today and a Han Solo AT-ST Driver.
And maybe count dooku if I feel like it, or maybe I'll just get the anni evo and a SAGA1 Jedi Starfighter.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 13, 2006, 08:24 AM
Okay, I got the anni evo pack and its awesome!
My favorite is Episode 3 Anakin.
Reallyfun figures.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on February 14, 2006, 12:15 PM
Pretty nice, huh? Only good head sculpt they've done. How do you like the detailing on Vader's head sculpt? Impressive, huh? 8)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 14, 2006, 02:17 PM
Yes, very impressive!
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on February 15, 2006, 04:06 AM
All 3 sets are outstanding, it's a shame this "series" is done for the time being.  Hasbro has solid gold with these if they do more and they're done to this level of quality.

Like in my latest review of the Sith Lords set, the worst figure in the set is Maul and he's only the worst because he has angle-cut elbows instead of ball/socket elbows...  You really can't complain a LOT about that, it's minor at best, and the Maul is still easily the best incarnation of that character ever released in the line.  I'm content to never get Maul again unless they repack this sculpt of the figure with a cloth robe.  :)  Hasbro has a license to print money with these if they re-release them on basic cards mixed throughout the line for some years.

Instead though, we got the lame ROTS Duel Anakin repackaged...  Oh joy.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 15, 2006, 05:42 PM
Well the way I look at it the action features are for the kiddies and the SA's are mainly for collectors.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on February 15, 2006, 06:59 PM
Man, it's killing me to look at TSC Threepio's head and the battle droid head... The pegs with sculpted wires would have been an awesome addition to Evo Vader's wrist. He would've been a perfect figure with a severed hand. :(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 16, 2006, 05:17 PM
Oh well, it could be worse.
It could be RoTS Basic Figure Vader.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ook on February 16, 2006, 05:25 PM
It's a beautiful figure. It just would've been perfect with the wires. :'(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on February 17, 2006, 09:10 AM
yeah, thats for sure.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on March 12, 2006, 06:29 PM
I cant find any white clone evo sets...  :'(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Gatillo on March 12, 2006, 10:17 PM
I saw themonce in December and never again.  Oh well.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on March 13, 2006, 04:06 AM
They've been long gone for a while>  I think Entertainment Earth has some though, check our front page for the link and browse their site.  I believe they have individual sets for fairly reasonable prices.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on March 13, 2006, 05:12 PM
Yeah but wouldnt they get jacked up because of the price exchange?
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on March 13, 2006, 06:11 PM
Hmmm...  Up to Canuckia?

I'm assuming you'd just have to pay American $ prices and whatever the difference between the two curriencies is what you'd have to pay...  I know of no retailers these are being spotted at lately though.  I've not read anything anywhere.  I saw them for $35 at the Toy Show this past weekend...

Etailers seem the route to go right now unfortunately.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Morgbug on March 14, 2006, 03:11 PM
Yeah but wouldnt they get jacked up because of the price exchange?

Yes and no.  The reality of our currency and the US being right next door is there is often a price differential on these.  Add to that the etailers charging more often than brick and mortar stores and there's a good possibility of paying more. 

But do remember that Canadian retail for these was $34.99 plus the taxes, so topping out at a nifty $39.88 CAD at the only retailer that carried them here, TRU.  If you do the exchange rate that works back to $33.89 USD.  So there's your baseline price to get one of those sets into your hands at the same price (minus cost of gas for transportation) to have picked one of these up locally. 

Now I will add the caveat that the Anakin-Vader set was only $29.99 when it arrived, but sold so well that the price was bumped by $5 at TRU for the Sith/Clone sets.  They did the same thing with the Saga five packs.  The Bounty Hunter set was only $29.99 and each set after that was $34.99. 

So US retail on these things was what again?  $19.99 or something? 

Face it, you're in Canada.  It sucks for collecting. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: johndeschenes on March 17, 2006, 12:13 PM
I would love to see an Evolutions for luke skywalker!
any ideas on to what the figures should be based on?
From Epsiode IV, V, VI.

please do provide your input!!

thanks john
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on March 19, 2006, 01:34 AM

1. ANH: Luke skywalker in stormtrooper disguise.
Why? : We need one, not another farmboy luke.
Also he should be SA and must have a removable helmet.

2.ESB: Bespin Luke Skywalker.
Why? : We already have a luke in bespin gear, but he has gotten beaten to a pulp and aside from him who wants to use a steroid using lunatic of a poft2 bespin luke?  :P
He should come with Pistol with working holster, light saber with the ability to plug into his belt.

3. ROTJ: Speeder Bike chase luke Skywalker.
Why?: Everybody wants an SA luke in speeder gear!
He should come with a poncho, helmet, lightsaber and he should be SA.

That would be awesome!






Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2006, 09:00 PM
For me, I'd go with this for a Luke Evolutions:

-ANH Farmboy Luke...  While he has a lot of figures, he hasn't got a defnitive version of himself in that outfit.  Considering the importance of Luke in his farmboy clothes I think that's a sorely missing item in the line.   His extras could include a (good) removable Stormtrooper belt w/grappling hook, stormie blaster, blastshield helmet, saber (clips to his belt), and softgoods poncho w/floppy hat.  Lot of that stuff they already have sculpted, save for a good stormie belt really.

-ESB (gets harder to choose here) Bespin Luke...  Luke spends most time in his ground pilot uniform, so it's my choice for an iconic "growth" of Luke look.  Include a removable belt/holster, and if Hasbro wanted to get creative, I think they could pull of a removable Bespin Jacket.  It would cover Luke on Dagobah AND Luke on Bespin.  While some may not like that, I think that they could do it right and it'd look pretty spiffy to me.  Include a saber (hooks to belt), blaster pistol...  Removable hand for Bespin, of course...  If they wanted to get really really really creative, a "damaged" head would be cool for his battered and bruised look on Bespin.

-ROTJ Luke...  Personally I'd like superarticulated Luke with a removable softgoods vest.  Underneath that he'd be in his Death Star duel duds (if they could make the chest flap a "heat/cold activated decal" like the damage on Stormtroopers, that'd be simply amazing).  Pack in, obviously, his saber and a softgoods vest w/Endor helmet and that'd be Luke for all seasons in ROTJ really. 

I'm amazed, at this point in the line, that a truly great DS Duel Luke doesn't exist, same with Bespin Luke who has had some pretty half-hearted efforts in my opinion.  For that matter, Hoth Luke's been short-changed a bit despite a number of versions of that figure made.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on March 20, 2006, 11:24 PM
I cant find any white clone evo sets... :'(

http://www.eplanettoys.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=4602

:)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Ryan on March 20, 2006, 11:36 PM
For me, I'd go with this for a Luke Evolutions:

-ANH Farmboy Luke... While he has a lot of figures, he hasn't got a defnitive version of himself in that outfit. Considering the importance of Luke in his farmboy clothes I think that's a sorely missing item in the line. His extras could include a (good) removable Stormtrooper belt w/grappling hook, stormie blaster, blastshield helmet, saber (clips to his belt), and softgoods poncho w/floppy hat. Lot of that stuff they already have sculpted, save for a good stormie belt really.

-ESB (gets harder to choose here) Bespin Luke... Luke spends most time in his ground pilot uniform, so it's my choice for an iconic "growth" of Luke look. Include a removable belt/holster, and if Hasbro wanted to get creative, I think they could pull of a removable Bespin Jacket. It would cover Luke on Dagobah AND Luke on Bespin. While some may not like that, I think that they could do it right and it'd look pretty spiffy to me. Include a saber (hooks to belt), blaster pistol... Removable hand for Bespin, of course... If they wanted to get really really really creative, a "damaged" head would be cool for his battered and bruised look on Bespin.

-ROTJ Luke... Personally I'd like superarticulated Luke with a removable softgoods vest. Underneath that he'd be in his Death Star duel duds (if they could make the chest flap a "heat/cold activated decal" like the damage on Stormtroopers, that'd be simply amazing). Pack in, obviously, his saber and a softgoods vest w/Endor helmet and that'd be Luke for all seasons in ROTJ really.

I'm amazed, at this point in the line, that a truly great DS Duel Luke doesn't exist, same with Bespin Luke who has had some pretty half-hearted efforts in my opinion. For that matter, Hoth Luke's been short-changed a bit despite a number of versions of that figure made.

Luke has been short-changed in general really. I think the only version that has really done him justice is the new VOTC pilot Luke. It has a good sculpt and some really nice articualtion. The new TSC Tatooine Luke, may be the best version of farmboy Luke but he seems to be lacking much articulation. It really wouldn't be hard to slightly retool the VOTC troopers, neck to allow for a Luke head to be put on.

I'd love to see a Luke Evo set, at this point the $20 pricepoint would actually be almost he same as buying 3 individual figures. Hasbro is missing out on a great opportunity by not continuing with this line. I don't think I've ever heard anything really negative about any of theses sets.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on March 28, 2006, 04:28 PM
Well I dont know about you guys but I would still buy evo sets.
If not for the nice figures then for the packing(I'm a loose collector but I still like it!) and the extra accesories.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on March 28, 2006, 05:10 PM
If you want Evoulutions packaging, I have lots of it to sell. ;)  I was hoping some packaging customizers would pick it up but no takers yet.

I do like the packages too.  I display them and VOTC packages...  I'm not much for the cardboard stuff but I figured I paid for it so I'm showing it off.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Clone Commander on March 28, 2006, 05:54 PM
Well I still have a ton of packaging lying beside my bed. Saga-TSC from figures to vehicle boxes.  :P