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Title: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on April 13, 2010, 09:30 PM
Rumors are heating up (http://www.newsarama.com/film/joss-whedon-avengers-100413.html) that Joss Whedon may be directing the Avengers movie.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: name on April 14, 2010, 11:01 AM
Shiny!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 14, 2010, 11:49 AM
Rumors are heating up (http://www.newsarama.com/film/joss-whedon-avengers-100413.html) that Joss Whedon may be directing the Avengers movie.

Now THAT would be Awesome!

Thinking about the Avengers movie, which heroes would be in the movie then?

Obviously Iron Man and Captain America, possibly Thor and Hulk.

But what about Hawkeye, Vision, Scarlet Witch.

And what other ones?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 14, 2010, 12:06 PM
What I read so far about Avengers:

Confirmed team members:  Cap, Iron Man, Thor

Probable enemies:  Loki, Hulk

Nick Fury will be in the movie.  Other than that, the membership of the team is unknown.  You can bet they'll have a female, and The Wasp is probably the most likely.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Hank Pym to round out the original Avengers line-up.   

I highly doubt Scarlet Witch... I can't see her powers translating well to live action.  I expect they'll run with the original team.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: name on April 14, 2010, 02:23 PM
Well since the last Hulk flick already tied itself in to the Iron Man/Avengers universe, I'd definitely expect to see some Hulkage.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on April 14, 2010, 03:08 PM
I love Whedon as a writer and he's not a bad director, I just don't think of him as a director first.  He did do a great job on Serenity, though, so we know he can direct a big screen action film.

I'm actually surprised that they didn't look at Favreau or Louis Leterrier to direct Avengers since they both have experience in the Marvel Universe.  Favreau, especially, since he really helped kickstart this whole project with the excellent job he did on the first IM film.

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 14, 2010, 04:09 PM
I read a while ago that Favreau declined any offer to direct Avengers.  He didn't know how he'd reconcile the technology-centric world of Tony Stark with the magical world of Thor.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on April 14, 2010, 04:17 PM
I did not know that.  If they wanted someone to understand the magic, you can't go wrong with Whedon.

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on April 14, 2010, 05:32 PM
What I read so far about Avengers:

Confirmed team members:  Cap, Iron Man, Thor

Probable enemies:  Loki, Hulk

Nick Fury will be in the movie.  Other than that, the membership of the team is unknown.  You can bet they'll have a female, and The Wasp is probably the most likely.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Hank Pym to round out the original Avengers line-up.   

I highly doubt Scarlet Witch... I can't see her powers translating well to live action.  I expect they'll run with the original team.

It has been a few months now, but at one point Marvel was talking to Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker) about the role of Hawkeye - so it is possible he could be included in Avengers as well.  As far as the director, I believe Favreau was indeed the first choice as mentioned - but he declined because of the reasons already posted, and because it was so soon after Iron Man 2.  I do believe he is an executive producer or something for Avengers though.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on April 15, 2010, 09:51 AM
Rumors are heating up (http://www.newsarama.com/film/joss-whedon-avengers-100413.html) that Joss Whedon may be directing the Avengers movie.

Apparently confirmed!

Geek Out!: Joss Whedon to direct 'Avengers' (http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/14/geek-out-joss-whedon-to-direct-avengers/?hpt=Sbin)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on May 21, 2010, 12:43 PM
Possible villian(s) for Whedon's The Avengers movie and sequels. Click for spoilerish article. (http://www.collider.com/2010/05/20/avengers-joss-whedon-skrull-kree-villain/#more-27779)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on May 21, 2010, 01:32 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about that.

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 21, 2010, 01:47 PM
It is a lot of story to squeeze into one movie.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: evenflow on May 21, 2010, 04:55 PM
Well if it opens the door for more cosmic characters in the universe, i am down for it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 21, 2010, 05:56 PM
Possible villian(s) for Whedon's The Avengers movie and sequels. Click for spoilerish article. (http://www.collider.com/2010/05/20/avengers-joss-whedon-skrull-kree-villain/#more-27779)

I like it for A2, still hoping Loki is the antagonist for the first movie. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 23, 2010, 12:47 PM
There is talk that the Skrulls will be the villains in the Avengers movie. In the first Avengers movie, they will be an infiltration team, and supposed it is they who turn the Hulk against the Avengers. Then for second movie its an all out invasion of the Skrulls, but this time humanity is helped by the Kree.

I can't recall the link I read this from though.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on May 27, 2010, 02:09 PM
Also read that Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker) is rumored to be Hawkeye in The Avengers.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 27, 2010, 02:52 PM
Also read that Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker) is rumored to be Hawkeye in The Avengers.

Please please please let that be true.  I don't even really care that much who plays him, but Hawkeye is the Han Solo of the Avengers, so I'd love to see him included.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 28, 2010, 10:11 AM
Also read that Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker) is rumored to be Hawkeye in The Avengers.

Please please please let that be true.  I don't even really care that much who plays him, but Hawkeye is the Han Solo of the Avengers, so I'd love to see him included.

That's perfect, he even looks like Clint Barton.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on July 11, 2010, 01:18 AM
Ed Norton out as Banner/Hulk for Avengers movie. (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/exclusive-marvel-confirms-they-will-hire-new-hulk-for-avengers)

I like the articles mention of Sharlto Copely for the new Banner.  That guy has impressed me so much.  He's 10 times the actor after 2 roles than some others I could name that are near A-listers these days.

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: evenflow on July 11, 2010, 03:59 PM
I hated District 9 and didnt think muh of him. I would have much preferred Ed Norton.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on July 24, 2010, 11:03 AM
Not sure if we want to break this one out as well, but it looks like Joss Whedon has now confirmed Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/104619-sdcc-whedon-confirms-renner-as-hawkeye-in-the-avengers-) in the Avengers movie.

Also, the Green Lantern movie logo (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/104627-sdcc-the-green-lantern-movie-logo) has been revealed (with a panel later today as well).  I suppose GL is ready for his own thread here too, but I'll let Jeff do the honors there ;).
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on July 24, 2010, 12:49 PM
Hawkeye.  YES.  Now they just have to stay true to the comic version of him.  So help me if we get the Ultimates Hawkeye... >:(
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 24, 2010, 07:23 PM
Hawkeye.  YES.  Now they just have to stay true to the comic version of him.  So help me if we get the Ultimates Hawkeye... >:(

Dark Avengers Hawkeye!!!!!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on July 24, 2010, 07:34 PM
Hawkeye.  YES.  Now they just have to stay true to the comic version of him.  So help me if we get the Ultimates Hawkeye... >:(

Dark Avengers Hawkeye!!!!!

Ish.  At least it won't be bullseye for sure.  If they'll just give him arrors, a purple costume, and Han Solo's attitude I'll be so happy....
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on July 25, 2010, 02:27 PM
I'm sure everyone has seen this by now, but the assembled the Avengers cast (http://www.newsarama.com/film/SDCC-2010-Marvel-Studios-Thor-Captain-America-100724.html) on stage last night during the Marvel Studios panel.  Renner is indeed playing Hawkeye, and Mark Ruffalo is taking over as Bruce Banner/Hulk.  Pic (and details) at the linky, but it sounds like the following actors were there:

RDJ (Tony Stark/Iron Man)
Chris Evans (Steve Rogers/Cap)
Chris Hemsworth (Thor)
Scarlett Johannson (Black Widow)
Clark Gregg (Agent Coulson)
Samuel Jackson (Nick Fury)
Mark Ruffalo (Banner/Hulk)
Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye)

Pretty good lineup, I wonder if they'll be adding anyone else in the next couple years or not (like Wasp or Ant Man, who I think have been rumored off and on).
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on July 26, 2010, 12:05 PM
Nice little surprise reveal (http://movies.ign.com/articles/110/1108431p1.html) from Marvel Studios on the final day of Comic Con: The Infinity Gauntlet.

(http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/110/1108431/thor-20100725041245339.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on July 26, 2010, 12:27 PM
Man... like we didn't have enough things to keep track of already!  That was a great book back in the day.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Sugart on July 26, 2010, 02:56 PM
So is Thanos the villian in The Avengers?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on July 26, 2010, 05:51 PM
Video (http://www.marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=13380) of the introduction of 'the Avengers' at Comic Con.  I have to say, it does get you psyched for the movie.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: evenflow on July 26, 2010, 10:49 PM
That Infinity Gauntlet has me extremely pumped for whatever it is going to be used for.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on July 27, 2010, 12:24 AM
That Infinity Gauntlet has me extremely pumped for whatever it is going to be used for.

Hmnn.  Hmmmn.  Thanos would be a worthy villain if that's where they're taking the Avengers, though I'll be a little disappointed if they depart from the Loki storyline.  Maybe for the average Joe having the villain be a Thor baddie sways things too much in his direction.  Thanos would be a villain strong enough for all the heroes to unite, though introducing him and the infinity gauntlet in their first movie would be pretty ambitious.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on April 27, 2011, 03:06 AM
'Avengers' starts filming Tuesday, writer-director Joss Whedon says (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/26/avengers.joss.whedon.ew/index.html?hpt=Sbin)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on July 18, 2011, 10:45 AM
SPOILERS
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It looks like the first teaser (which appears after the credits of Cap) has leaked online.  It is very poor quality, but if you'd like to see it, it is probably wise to do it quickly:

Avengers Teaser (http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/07/18/fan-recorded-avengers-teaser-trailer-shows-up-online/)

A lot of the "quick flashes" type of stuff going on, and I look forward to seeing it in better quality (or on the big screen), but man it is exciting that this big team up movie is happening.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on July 18, 2011, 05:48 PM
SPOILERS
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It looks like the first teaser (which appears after the credits of Cap) has leaked online.  It is very poor quality, but if you'd like to see it, it is probably wise to do it quickly:

Avengers Teaser (http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/07/18/fan-recorded-avengers-teaser-trailer-shows-up-online/)

A lot of the "quick flashes" type of stuff going on, and I look forward to seeing it in better quality (or on the big screen), but man it is exciting that this big team up movie is happening.

Already pulled from YouTube.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 18, 2011, 10:40 PM
So is Thanos the villian in The Avengers?

I heard it was mainly Loki and Skrulls.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on July 19, 2011, 09:09 AM
Ugh, Skrulls are part and parcel of the FF continuity, I hate to see them trawled out for another franchise.

Did the Avengers even have a recurring nemesis?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on July 19, 2011, 02:58 PM
Ugh, Skrulls are part and parcel of the FF continuity, I hate to see them trawled out for another franchise.

Did the Avengers even have a recurring nemesis?

Yes, the Skrulls first appeared in FF, but outside of that the Avengers have been heavily involved with Skrull activity over the years.  They were the major players in the Kree/Skrull war, The iluminati attack on their homeworld was led by Iron Man and Reed Richards (among others), and the more recent Secret Invasion was far more tied to the Avengers than the FF, with a Skrull replacing Spiderwoman to kick things off and Skrulls impersonating Hank Pym and Mockinbird for several years of the timeline.  The invasion brings the core Avengers back together, reseats Iron Man from national security director to outlaw, puts the Dark Avengers into play, and kills off the Wasp...pretty major implications for Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

As for their own nemeses, the Avengers have quite a few: Ultron would be a great villian, but probably requires Hank Pym to be more established (he built Ultron to make himself look good in front of the Avengers, then the robot self evolved).  Kang the time traveler is another solid villian, but time travel is another concept that might be best saved for a sequel.  The Masters of Evil were a collection of baddies bent on destroying the Avengers as well.  Would be cool to see a group of supervillians to fight, but then you end up having to spread screen time across a number of baddies.  Loki is the villian who brought them together in the comics, so it would make sense to use him since he's already established.  Maybe they don't want to showcase one villian so much though, tying the group so closely to Thor. 

In the comics, the Skrulls are the ones who developed the Cosmic Cube, so if they are going this route then it makes sense to include them as well.  Thanos is the one who wielded the infinity gauntlet, so will be interesting to see where they go with that.  I'm a little dissapointed that they are tackling Aliens who can transform into anyone AND a device that can alter reality all in one movie - seems like an awfully big scope for one movie.  Loki will probably fit in there somehow as well given the last scene in Thor.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on July 19, 2011, 03:46 PM
Thanks, Kang was the one I was trying to remember, he'd be a good choice.

Wasn't Thanos a Captain Marvel villain? Like Ego the Living Planet?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on July 19, 2011, 03:56 PM
I had thought about Kang when I saw Thor, and the whole Cosmic Cube storyline got brought to light.  Who knows?

Also, I was just checking out the Comic Con program grid, and surprisingly the major upcoming comic films don't seem to be listed, Avengers included.  You've got to think that there will be SOME kind of Avengers panel.  Especially since most of the cast was part of a presentation last year. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on July 19, 2011, 04:16 PM
Thanos was originally more of a Captain Marvel baddie.  When he started collecting the infinity gems though, he significantly increased his power set and it took the Avengers and many other heroes to take him down.  You never know how they are going to combine things in these movies - maybe they make Thanos into more of a super-skrull type?  Like in Thor, they found a way to bring in Loki, the Destroyer, Thor's banishment, and the Frost Giants all into one storyline, when they were all mostly separate storylines throughout the comics.

I forgot about the Super adaptoid too.  I think he was somewhat based off the cosmic cube's power as I recall.  Pretty cool villain - he could absorb the powers and talents of anyone he fought, so you have an android with all of the Avengers' powers wrapped up into one baddie. 

I'm more leery of Kang as a movie villain - time travel is always tricky and seems to leave major plot holes.  I never understood why Kang wouldn't pull a terminator and just off the parents of everyone who ever opposed him.  In the comics, Kang's conqueror nature was often offset by his older, more responsible persona Immortus.  If Kang started changing the timeline, Immortus would bring in the Avengers to stop him, but that's a lot of set up to bring into one movie.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on July 21, 2011, 12:59 PM
Looks like Cap's Avengers movie costume is on display at SDCC, looks pretty nifty:

http://i.marvelousnews.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=2011_San_Diego_Comic_Con%2FMovie&dispsize=600&start=0 (http://i.marvelousnews.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=2011_San_Diego_Comic_Con%2FMovie&dispsize=600&start=0)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on July 21, 2011, 05:47 PM
Looks like Cap's Avengers movie costume is on display at SDCC, looks pretty nifty:

http://i.marvelousnews.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=2011_San_Diego_Comic_Con%2FMovie&dispsize=600&start=0 (http://i.marvelousnews.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=2011_San_Diego_Comic_Con%2FMovie&dispsize=600&start=0)

Here it is as a figure as well, along with variations of previous Thor and Iron Man figs.  Pretty sweet.

http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=14267

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on August 15, 2011, 09:28 PM
This Gothamist article (http://gothamist.com/2011/08/15/crushed_cabs.php#photo-1) has some shots of the Avengers shoot that is underway in Cleveland, OH.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 16, 2011, 01:13 PM
Here it is as a figure as well, along with variations of previous Thor and Iron Man figs.  Pretty sweet.

http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=14267

Ok - here's a silly question. At the end of IM2 he had the Mark VI and that has a triangle shaped reactor in the center of his chest, yet the Avengers version of the figure is a circle.

Is the Avengers movie set in-between the events of Iron Man and Iron Man 2?

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on August 16, 2011, 01:15 PM
Nope.  One of the final scenes of Iron Man 2 specifically dealt with an evaluation of Iron Man and his fitness for what Nick Fury referred to as the Avenger Initiative. 

As for the figures?  They're definitely prototypes.  And I wouldn't expect anything movie accurate from Hasbro yet.  The Avengers toy line will probably launch around March or April of 2012.  Sure, they could try to do a teaser in time for Christmas.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on August 16, 2011, 01:48 PM
Slightly SPOILERY:

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=44490 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=44490)

A couple pics with Cap, and some funky looking weaponry....

EDIT: More Cap-

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=44481 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=44481)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on August 16, 2011, 03:08 PM
In the comics, Stark has a virtual of different armor designs.  There are variety of different chest pieces, weaponry, and colors, so no surprise to see him switch from a circular looking reactor to a triangle design I guess.  I think you could explain the triangle reactor as either experimental or even just a cover change (maybe its still circular underneath, but the external opening in the armor is triangle shaped to create a different energy beam).  Given Starks penchant for fast cars and different designs, it could just be a style choice with that particular suit. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on August 16, 2011, 03:13 PM
Not a bad choice for Maria Hill...

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UNuUlCbvGPg/TeQ3CA5pSWI/AAAAAAAAJPg/5hXJvShGTMk/s1600/wonder_woman_movie_still_new.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on August 19, 2011, 02:38 PM
Looks like some more footage has been leaking from the Avengers set:

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=44727 (http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=44727)

Granted, we don't know what the story will be like or anything like that - or even who the villains are for sure - but this footage gets me sort of geeked for the Avengers next year.  Just seeing Cap and Thor fighting together is pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on September 3, 2011, 05:37 PM
New photos (http://geektyrant.com/news/2011/9/3/the-avengers-hi-res-set-photos-hawkeye-black-widow-captain-a.html) of Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye in action.

Have to say, I don't care for the new Captain America costume.  Compared to the WWII outfit, which I thought turned out really well, this seems like a step backward.  There are parts that seem to work, but there's something about the headgear and the pants/lower half of the outfit that are missing something.  The boots and gloves look okay, though.

Hawkeye, on the other hand, I like.  The Black Widow outfit (didn't compare it to the IM movie outfit) looks good as well, but they have her in some ridiculous looking shoes.

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on September 3, 2011, 05:51 PM
Scarlett Johannson was wearing shoes?  I honestly didn't notice.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 3, 2011, 11:05 PM
I like all three of the costumes.  Cap doesn't look as good as his WWII garb, but still looks pretty decent.  Makes sense that it would be more modernized.  Given what they have to match to in the comics, it looks fantastic.  Black Widow looks great - I don't know what you don't like about her shoes.  Not much of a shoe guy myself, but I'll go on record as saying I think the footwear designs for all three characters is solid.  Hawkeye...I knew we weren't going to get the purple costume, but some kind of mask would have been nice.   :-\  I do like the rest of the costume though.

My only gripe here is that cap has dark hair.  WTF!  That's the easiest thing to get right.  I haven't seen the Cap movie yet, but isn't he blonde throughout?  Rodgers is light blonde through the better part of a century in comics, so what gives with the dark hair?  I don't get it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 4, 2011, 12:42 AM
It is odd that Cap's hair has changed colors in this movie.  also, something about the costume is a little off...could be the helmet.

Overall, it still looks good.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on September 4, 2011, 12:59 AM
They have Widow in these huge heels.  Granted, they're solid, but could you guys ever imagine running in something like those?  If you're picking footwear to battle evil in, don't you think you'd pick something a little more realistic, something you could run in or stomp the crap out of someone with rather than something that'll make your butt look a little better or that makes you taller to fit in with the guys?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 4, 2011, 09:55 AM
They have Widow in these huge heels.  Granted, they're solid, but could you guys ever imagine running in something like those?  If you're picking footwear to battle evil in, don't you think you'd pick something a little more realistic, something you could run in or stomp the crap out of someone with rather than something that'll make your butt look a little better or that makes you taller to fit in with the guys?

Sure.  If I was a butt kicking woman, I would probably wear the equivalent of steel-toed tennis shoes.  I'd also wear sweat pants and a sweat shirt to allow for more freedom of movement.  I wouldn't waste time with my hair or make-up either.  But that's not really what the comic movies are about.  Widow is a spy and a seductress of sorts, using her "wow" looks to momentarily stun the bad guys.  Maybe should pull that off with more sensible shoes, but I think these are just fine the way they are.   ;)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 4, 2011, 11:52 AM
They probably didn't color Chris's hair because he has to where the helmet that day.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 4, 2011, 04:14 PM
They probably didn't color Chris's hair because he has to where the helmet that day.

Do they color it every day they need him?  You'd think he would just dye it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 4, 2011, 04:19 PM
It's probably easier on the makeup folks to color it as needed.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: name on September 6, 2011, 09:35 AM
Scarlett runs like a girl.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 6, 2011, 11:55 PM
Yeah, isn't it Great! :D
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on September 7, 2011, 07:17 AM
Hawkeye knows where it's at...

(http://eyeprime.net/images/2011/09/avengers_eyeprime_616.jpg)

http://eyeprime.net/2011/09/on-location-for-the-avengers/
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Hemish on September 7, 2011, 07:33 AM
Really not liking the newer cap outfit
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Sprry75 on September 7, 2011, 10:26 PM
Can't really blame Hawkeye for that, I guess, but not too subtle.

Chris Evans looks substantially less buff and the new Cap suit looks like a pair of jammies.  I'm still excited for this movie, though.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on September 7, 2011, 10:30 PM
Hawkeye knows where it's at...

(http://eyeprime.net/images/2011/09/avengers_eyeprime_616.jpg)

http://eyeprime.net/2011/09/on-location-for-the-avengers/

Please.  She got reduction surgery.  Why not just spit in God's face while you're at it?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 7, 2011, 10:47 PM
Can't really blame Hawkeye for that, I guess, but not too subtle.

Chris Evans looks substantially less buff and the new Cap suit looks like a pair of jammies.  I'm still excited for this movie, though.

Hey, cut Cap some slack.  He's like 80+ years old in the Avengers now.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on September 7, 2011, 11:06 PM
I agree. After seeing the Captain America, the Avengers Cap looks like he's dressed in his USO tour version of the costume. Big step backward.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Neal on September 8, 2011, 10:00 AM
Please.  She got reduction surgery. 

Incorrect.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 8, 2011, 10:24 AM
Yeah, I'm not seeing any credible evidence of this happening.  Let's hope it is not true.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on September 8, 2011, 10:30 AM
I don't read the Hollywood rumor boards, but my theory is that she's lost weight to be more fit for the role.  Plus the suit is compressing.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on September 29, 2011, 02:15 PM
The Avengers are this week's EW cover story:

Cover Pic (http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/29/the-avengers-exclusive-first-look-this-weeks-cover/)

Also, some inside pics here:

New Pics (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20483133_20532663,00.html)

(http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/cover-ew-1175_300.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 29, 2011, 03:27 PM
Cool pictures Brian - thanks for posting.  I got a little schoolgirl giddy just looking at Cap and Iron Man in the same scene on that first picture.  I love that Hawk and Thor are in there too, though I'd much rather see Wasp and Giant Man in place of Hulk or Black Widow.  No offense meant to Scarlet - it's just that the Black Widow has always been more of a spy character than a super-team character in my mind.  I always felt like Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne provided more character driven storylines, with their rocky marriage issues, Janet coming from money, Hank being a flawed husband and hero, and obviously the creation of super baddie Ultron, which leads to characters like Vision, Jocasta, etc. 

I guess the Black Widow can provide some connection back to SHEILD, and maybe even a question of her true loyalties if she has to choose between the two.  But I completely forgot that Hulk was going to be in this and find myself extra annoyed at his involvement..  Is anyone else bothered by Marvel's determination to promote the Hulk?  He's had two failed movies, doesn't seem to be high in the Avengers fan base, and his powered-character doesn't seem like a good fit for a super-team.  I hope they somewhat stick to the comic origin, using Hulk to initially bring the heroes together, then quickly drop him from the lineup.  Hopefully characters like Vision, Black Panther, Scarlet Witch, Black Night, Wonderman, Ms. Marvel, etc. can take his place in the sequels.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on September 29, 2011, 03:59 PM
I agree Justin, I'd rather have seen Wasp and Giant Man as well...stays truer to the origin as well.  I also like the angle of Vision as well and would love to see that in a sequel (and no Vision can't be some super computer or lame cloud thing...he must be an android)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on September 30, 2011, 02:31 PM
I'm really hoping (that is, if the Avengers does well) that we'll see more of the team in the sequel.  I really think that Wasp, Ant Man, and Black Panther would be the next ones added to the roster, but I guess you never know.  It seems like, from what I've read, that Marvel has hopes of a Black Panther solo movie at some point, so it would be a good way to introduce him as well.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 30, 2011, 02:55 PM
I wonder if the size changers were purposely left out because they weren't confident in their ability to show the size change on film?  Does anyone know of other live action movies where they've successfully shrank or grown a character?  I'm sure there are examples, but none come to mind. 

I could honestly do without the Panther.  He doesn't bring much to the table in terms of powers, so with somewhat unpowered characters in Widow, Cap, and Hawk, I'm not sure what he adds to the table.  Same story with Swordsman, Mockingbird, Tigra, or other low powered characters.  I would definitely like to see the size changers come on board, and they could easily build a plot around Wonderman, Black Knight, or War Machine coming on board.  Even Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver would be nice additions.  I'd think they have to include another woman or two on the team - it's a bit lopsided with just the Widow, especially when you compare to what they've done with X-Men (Storm, Jean, Mystique, White Queen, Rogue).  Maybe we'll see Ms Marvel or She-Hulk strut their stuff in the sequels.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: iFett on September 30, 2011, 03:56 PM
I wonder if the size changers were purposely left out because they weren't confident in their ability to show the size change on film?  Does anyone know of other live action movies where they've successfully shrank or grown a character?  I'm sure there are examples, but none come to mind. 

(http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/0/b70-373)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 30, 2011, 04:04 PM
What about the Lord of the Rings movies? Hobbits are short.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on September 30, 2011, 09:50 PM
I think Justin is talking more of the CGI of changing people's size on screen not having small and large characters.

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 30, 2011, 10:16 PM
I think Justin is talking more of the CGI of changing people's size on screen not having small and large characters.

Right.  Sorry I wasn't more clear about that.

Got my Entertainment Weekly with the Avengers cover in the mail today.  They have an interesting bit about what movies will come AFTER the Avengers. 

- Iron Man 3 - Thor 2 - "...will take Thor literally to other worlds"
- ANT-MAN!  YES! - Tiny hero with major strength.  Edgar Wright, the writer/director of Hot Fuzz has "developed an excellent draft."
- Guardians of the Galaxy
- Inhumans

Great to see the Iron Man and Thor franchises continue, and I'm stoked to hear Ant-Man is "definitely in the works" with a great script.  I hope that means he's headed for Avengers 2.  Pretty surprised to see Guardians and Inhumans on the list, but they could do some great things with both franchsies.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on October 1, 2011, 08:50 AM
Inhumans could be great, as long as they stay true to the original stories.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on October 1, 2011, 11:08 AM
I don't know. Would the average person really want to see a movie called "Ant-Man" ?

Now where is my "The Tick" movie? Spoon!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on October 1, 2011, 07:22 PM
I don't know. Would the average person really want to see a movie called "Ant-Man" ?

They flocked to "Blade"...

If it's a quality movie, people will go see it.  Iron Man was a second-tier Marvel hero.  They gave it to a quality director with an excellent script, gave him the budget and freedom he needed, and it became a spectacular hit and launched the Avengers.

Edgar Wright is absolutely brilliant, so at least they're on the right track for Ant-Man.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 1, 2011, 11:30 PM
I don't know if I'd call Iron Man second tier for Marvel.  He's been center stage of the Marvel U for a long time now.  As much as Marvel likes to tout Captain America, I'd bet the average person pre-movie was as likely to know Iron Man as they were Captain America.

Given Marvel's track record the last 5-6 years, I think people would go see a movie called Giraffe-Man if that's what Marvel wants to call it.  Their only egg thus far was Hulk and most people don't even remember that they did that one.  Both Iron Man films have been a hit, Thor & Cap have done well, and everyone is pysched about the Avengers.  If they even hint that Ant-Man is Avengers related, I think it will do just fine.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on October 5, 2011, 11:54 AM
The Avengers movie Official Site (http://marvel.com/avengers_movie/) is up.  Not too much new yet that I can see, but there are rumors the trailer will hit next week (maybe to coincide with NYCC).
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on October 5, 2011, 06:03 PM
There will be an Avengers panel next Saturday at NY Comic Con.  Chris Evans will reportedly take part, as will Kevin Feige.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on October 5, 2011, 08:40 PM
And Cobie Smulders!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on October 7, 2011, 02:24 PM
The Avengers movie Official Site (http://marvel.com/avengers_movie/) is up.  Not too much new yet that I can see, but there are rumors the trailer will hit next week (maybe to coincide with NYCC).

Sounds like it has been officially confirmed that the theatrical trailer for the Avengers will hit online this Tuesday (the 11th).  Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 7, 2011, 04:04 PM
The Avengers movie Official Site (http://marvel.com/avengers_movie/) is up.  Not too much new yet that I can see, but there are rumors the trailer will hit next week (maybe to coincide with NYCC).

Sounds like it has been officially confirmed that the theatrical trailer for the Avengers will hit online this Tuesday (the 11th).  Looking forward to it.

Already?!  Fantastic.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on October 11, 2011, 10:12 AM
Trailer (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/avengers/) is up!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on October 11, 2011, 10:42 AM
Flat-out awesome... though I'm a bit worried that Robert Downey Jr. is gonna outshine everybody else.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on October 11, 2011, 11:19 AM
GEEK!  That is all!   8)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 11, 2011, 12:32 PM
Looks awesome.  Simply awesome. 

Here's the YouTube link for anyone that doesn't have quicktime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuR3wSKeNOc

As for RDJ stealing the show, I thought I read somewhere that he was pushing for this, then backed off to have Iron Man actually share the load much more with the other characters.  I think he's great and the banter with the Hulk/Cap should be fun.  I just hope the Black Widow and Hawkeye characters don't get lost with all the attention on the bigger name heroes.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Rob on October 11, 2011, 12:34 PM
I'm underwhelmed, and I don't trust Joss Whedon to make a good movie.   :-\
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on October 11, 2011, 01:28 PM
What? Serenity wasn't a good movie?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 11, 2011, 02:37 PM
What? Serenity wasn't a good movie?

I thought Serenity was great, and I liked his work with most of Buffy and Angel as well.  I also read somewhere that he was an assistant director or something on Thor.  Those credentials are enough to give me faith...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on October 11, 2011, 03:06 PM
There will be an Avengers panel next Saturday at NY Comic Con.  Chris Evans will reportedly take part, as will Kevin Feige.
And Cobie Smulders!

Yeah, all three are reported to be attending.

Too bad Scarlett won't be there.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: iFett on October 11, 2011, 03:25 PM
So why does Hulk need a third actor for this movie?  I assume the first 2 of those movies sucked so bad they didn't want to be in this super hero party movie?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Rob on October 11, 2011, 04:02 PM
What? Serenity wasn't a good movie?

I thought Serenity was great, and I liked his work with most of Buffy and Angel as well.  I also read somewhere that he was an assistant director or something on Thor.  Those credentials are enough to give me faith...

I'm sure I'm way in the minority on a site like this, but I watched the Firefly series because a buddy insisted that I do so, and outside of Nathan Fillion being his usual funny self, I thought it was horrible.  And Kenneth Branagh directed Thor, Joss Whedon directed the cut-scene after the credits that was the Avenger's tie-in.  He had quite literally nothing to do with Thor's success.

Sorry to be the nay-sayer here, but Joss Whedon's work today just hassn't done anything for me at all.

So why does Hulk need a third actor for this movie?  I assume the first 2 of those movies sucked so bad they didn't want to be in this super hero party movie?

From what I read Edward Norton wasn't getting along with someone (no idea who) and they just decided to not use him again.  He was allegedly up for reprising the roll.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: ruiner on October 11, 2011, 04:30 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3344/3438330199_05b3db4832_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on October 11, 2011, 07:51 PM
From what I read Edward Norton wasn't getting along with someone (no idea who) and they just decided to not use him again.  He was allegedly up for reprising the roll.

I heard Norton was a pain to work with while filming his Hulk movie, and they decided not to hire him.  I don't think either previous Hulk fits well with the continuity, so I'm fine with a reboot of the character.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 12, 2011, 12:04 AM
From what I read Edward Norton wasn't getting along with someone (no idea who) and they just decided to not use him again.  He was allegedly up for reprising the roll.

I heard Norton was a pain to work with while filming his Hulk movie, and they decided not to hire him.  I don't think either previous Hulk fits well with the continuity, so I'm fine with a reboot of the character.

From IMDB:
Quote
Negotiations between Norton and Marvel eventually broke down, and the role was instead offered to Mark Ruffalo, who accepted. Norton wrote a public response to the decision on his Facebook page, stating that he will not be appearing in The Avengers, but thanked Marvel Studios for considering letting him reprise the role.

The trailer looks great!  I'm looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on October 12, 2011, 08:24 AM
I'm sure I'm way in the minority on a site like this, but I watched the Firefly series because a buddy insisted that I do so, and outside of Nathan Fillion being his usual funny self, I thought it was horrible.

I couldn't watch the series... the cowboy/spaceman mash-up just didn't work for me.  But I thought the Serenity movie was flat-out brilliant.  Because of that I have all the faith in the world this movie will be awesome.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on November 17, 2011, 02:02 PM
New character poster HERE (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3970/329713261197959.jpg):

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3970/329713261197959.jpg)

and HERE (http://l.yimg.com/i/i/uk/mov/58bn.jpg):

(http://l.yimg.com/i/i/uk/mov/58bn.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 18, 2011, 09:13 AM
I could have sworn in the original announcements for this movie, that Don Cheedle was also in the cast. Did they decide to drop War Machine from the line-up or is he in it for just a quick cameo? Anyone know?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on November 18, 2011, 10:45 AM
IMDB has him listed for Iron Man 3 but not Avengers.  With as many characters as they have already, I'd be surprised to see him in anything but a cameo.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on November 18, 2011, 12:14 PM
I like Don Cheele but I still think they should have kept Terrence Howard.  I really don't get the thought process behind that.

But, I'd be up for a War Machine film at some point and I hope IM3 (and 4 if they do it) will be as good as the first two at least.  I still think RDJr as Tony Stark was one of the best casting decisions for a comic book movie ever.

   E...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on November 19, 2011, 12:15 PM
  I still think RDJr as Tony Stark was one of the best casting decisions for a comic book movie ever.

   E...

Hands down.  He is the perfect Tony Stark from crazy inventor to macho ladies man to pompous rich guy to throw down, determined hero.  All with a splash of dead pan comic tossed in.  Easily one of my top 3 favorite actors based on the IM flicks alone.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2012, 08:50 PM
Its not much, but a preview of the Super Bowl commercial is up online (or, essentially, a preview of the preview) :)

http://www.newsarama.com/film/marvel-studios-avengers-super-bowl-120131.html (http://www.newsarama.com/film/marvel-studios-avengers-super-bowl-120131.html)

There was also a twitter chat with Joss Whedon and some of the cast earlier today, that you can read through here:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=53806 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=53806)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on February 1, 2012, 07:33 AM
I think this tops my "Most Anticipated" list for the year.  I have been waiting 30 years for this movie.  It looks awesome, and I love Joss' work.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on February 5, 2012, 11:58 PM
Marvel's The Avengers Super Bowl Extented (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bGt-saFvkNk#!)

1 word... Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!   :o 8)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on February 6, 2012, 09:09 AM
All I know is the trailer they showed during the SB SUCKED out loud.

Apparently they are teaming up to battle a series of randomly exploding cars?

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on February 6, 2012, 10:44 AM
Marvel's The Avengers Super Bowl Extented (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bGt-saFvkNk#!)

1 word... Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!   :o 8)

Really psyched for this movie as well.  The SB spot didn't necessarily have a ton of new footage, but I still think it looks pretty cool.  Just that shot of all of them sort of back to back ready for the fight gave me goosebumps.  If you haven't seen the extended version that DSJ posted, definitely check it out - some cool stuff at the end there.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on February 6, 2012, 01:39 PM
The extended trailer is pretty awesome.  Especially the shots with the Hulk!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on February 6, 2012, 05:46 PM
Loki: "I have an army"
Stark: "We have a Hulk"
Point..match..game over!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on February 7, 2012, 11:33 AM
Looking at the trailer in still frames, I'm starting to wonder if Loki has enlisted the Frost Giants of Jotunheim.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on February 7, 2012, 11:56 AM
You'll also notice Avengers fighting each other...Loki mind control...no?  I had heard that the Skrulls were involved at one point in time...perhaps they might be the Frost Giants you are seeing Nick?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 7, 2012, 12:00 PM
(http://www.creaturecantina.com/graphics_temp/avengers.jpg)

Look more like Skrulls to me, despite denials.  Frost Giants weren't armored like that.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on February 7, 2012, 12:05 PM
Kevin Feige recently stated (http://www.craveonline.com/film/articles/181747-no-red-skull-or-skrulls-in-the-avengers) that the Skrulls are NOT involved in the Avengers.  But the aliens in The Avengers are a race of aliens that have previously appeared in Marvel comics.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on February 7, 2012, 12:10 PM
I thought the the Skrulls (or at least the name) couldn't be used due to them being somehow tied into the Fantastic Four movie rights at Fox.  Not sure if that is true or not.  I believe there were shape-shifting, skrull-like aliens in the Ultimates books (which a lot of the movie stuff seems to come from), but I can't recall their name right now without digging out my books.  Regardless, all signs point to it being some sort of alien race - hadn't heard anything about Frost giants previously, but I guess that is possible too.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on February 7, 2012, 01:01 PM
The Avengers have encountered lots of alien races.  Those do not look like Skrulls to me - if they were, you'd think they would be many different shapes and sizes in the midst of battle.  The picture looks like three-toed big blue feet...I would guess that these are some kind of Frost Giant in armor.  If so, there may also be an alien race not pictured - maybe someone like the Kree?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on February 7, 2012, 05:31 PM
Kevin Feige also mentioned that the Kree aren't in the mix, either.  Apparently someone had been hypothesizing about a Kree-Skrull war that spills over to Earth.  This apparently isn't in the mix.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 11, 2012, 09:50 AM
The invaders from Avengers REVEALED!!! (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53500)

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on February 12, 2012, 02:32 PM
Nice, now we're robbing from other comic franchises?

SKRULLS = FANTASTIC FOUR

C'mon people! Is it really SO hard to find a compelling adversary from the hundreds of Avengers comics they have to draw from?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on February 12, 2012, 03:49 PM
Well, the Kree Skrull War arc is considered by many to be one of the greatest Avengers stories ever

I personally would have liked to have them kept with the Hulk/Loki thing and have Wasp and Doc Pym instead of Black Widow and Hawkeye so they could get to a Ultron/Vision.  Although Vision would probably be a immobile Supercomputer or something lame
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on February 12, 2012, 04:05 PM
I Think it's already been covered in this thread, but I'm with Scott.  The Skrulls a big part of Avengers history, both past and present.  The Skrull invasion of Earth a few years ago was mainly an Avengers storyline, with Yellowjacket turning out to be a Skrull, finding out Mockingbird (thought deceased) was really a Skrull, The Skrull invasion resulting in the death of the Wasp, Iron Man being fired as Security Director and head of SHEILD because of the Skrulls, the end of the Skrull invasion resulting in the formation of the Dark Avengers...they have been far more involved with the Avengers lately than with the FF.  And yeah, the old Kree/Skrull war was a big chapter in Avengers history (and a great story available in trade if you haven't read it).
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 12, 2012, 04:13 PM
It's pretty obvious they're using the first Ultimates books as the basis for this movie.  In series 1, the Skrulls invade.  In series 2, Loki leads an invasion.  Seems like a marriage of the two.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on February 13, 2012, 12:22 AM
It's pretty obvious they're using the first Ultimates books as the basis for this movie.  In series 1, the Skrulls invade.  In series 2, Loki leads an invasion.  Seems like a marriage of the two.

Yeah, but if that were true then Hawkeye wouldn't have his purple costu....er, okay but then Nick Fury would blac...Hmn.  Guess so.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 13, 2012, 09:29 AM
BTW, the Skrulls were referred to as "Chitauri" in the Ultimates books, so Feige has something of an out for his comments.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 22, 2012, 08:34 AM
A couple new Avengers photos (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53735)

I gotta say - the Cap costume is starting to grow on me.  I'm not 100% sold... something about the helmet looks off... but it's not a train wreck.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on February 22, 2012, 09:55 AM
Yeah, these new photos of Cap aren't as bad as I orignially thought.  I didn't like the new uniform from the start but it may not actually be that bad.  The helmet, though?  I still don't know about that.

   E...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on February 22, 2012, 11:44 AM
I wasn't a fan of the new Cap uniform as much, too.  I thought the original uni was actually pretty awesome.  But seeing it in context now, it seems to work.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on February 22, 2012, 01:05 PM
I don't mind the helmet.  The spandex head-gear might work for spiderman or the X-Men as a way to protect your identity, but it's common knowledge who most of the Avengers are and half the team doesn't wear headgear.  The only rationale for Cap putting something on his head is added protection, in which case a helmet probably makes more sense. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Morgbug on February 23, 2012, 10:55 PM
Just don't see myself worrying about Cap's lid when there's something better to look at right beside him.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 23, 2012, 11:03 PM
Just don't see myself worrying about Cap's lid when there's something better to look at right beside him.

You must really like Hawkeye.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on February 28, 2012, 08:39 PM
New Poster (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8608/avengersposter2.jpg)

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8608/avengersposter2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: iFett on February 28, 2012, 09:09 PM
Cool looking poster.  I don't follow comics, but how come the bow & arrow guy and the chick didn't have their own movie?  Does Nick Fury have special powers too ?  Looks like Ironman and Thor have good screen time...maybe?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 28, 2012, 09:27 PM
That poster is awful.  The worst of Photoshop.  The characters aren't in scale with respect to one another.  That Hulk would be 30 feet tall.  And they're all looking in random directions.  Just really poor work.   :P

Hawkeye and Black Widow are more minor characters in the Marvel Universe.  I believe the actors are optioned for spin-off flicks, but the studio is waiting for Avengers to be a big hit first.  Nick Fury is a normal human - no powers.  Iron Man/Thor/Cap will certainly get the majority of the screen time.  Each Iron Man film made over $300 million domestic.  RDJ is the biggest draw here, and will get a lot of focus.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: name on February 28, 2012, 09:46 PM
agreed on the poster.  that hulk looks ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Sprry75 on February 29, 2012, 06:11 AM
If I were Chris Evans' agent, I'd be pissed.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on February 29, 2012, 07:38 AM
Ugh.  Not a fan of the poster, but I'm not really a poster guy.   :-\

Cool looking poster.  I don't follow comics, but how come the bow & arrow guy and the chick didn't have their own movie?  Does Nick Fury have special powers too ?  Looks like Ironman and Thor have good screen time...maybe?

Marvel's big names over the years have been Spiderman, Captain America, Wolverine, and the Hulk.  Iron Man and Thor have been big players in the comics, but lesser known by the public, so they needed movies to seed their origins.  Black Widow and Hawkeye are definitely next tier characters.  I think movies about each would have been cool, but they've kind of had their hands full with Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, & Hulk all leading to the Avengers flick.  You get a good taste for the Black Widow in Iron Man 2 and a sneak peak at Hawkeye in the Thor movie, so they've all been introduced at some point even if they don't have their own movie.  Like Hawk and Widow, Fury doesn't have any special powers...he's just a good secret agent.  I think in the comics he was a WWII hero and took some serum that allows him to age slower, but that's it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on February 29, 2012, 11:02 AM
but how come the chick didn't have their own movie? 

We wish Scarlet had her own movie (or with me in the male lead) but she did have some pics running around.   ;)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 29, 2012, 12:33 PM
Just drop everything and go watch:

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/marvel/avengers/

Words don't suffice...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on February 29, 2012, 12:38 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That looks so awesome.  And much to my amazement, the Hulk looks pretty good!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on February 29, 2012, 01:01 PM

1 word... Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!   :o 8)

Is it the 4th yet?  How about now... now...                                                                                                                     now...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on February 29, 2012, 02:17 PM
Awesome, just awesome.  Can't wait for May 4th.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on February 29, 2012, 06:24 PM
I have some serious goosebumps.  Looks incredible.  I can't wait to see the Iron Man vs. Thor throwdown.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on February 29, 2012, 07:27 PM
That looks awesome!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BrentS on February 29, 2012, 09:17 PM
I really liked that trailer. I hope they don't cut this movie too short. Give me at least 2.5 hours of superhero goodness!!!

I didn't realize this was coming out in April?!?

EDIT: the trailer I saw on YouTube was the UK trailer and it said in theatres April 26.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on February 29, 2012, 10:24 PM
Release dates for The Avengers:

Country   Date
Australia   25 April 2012   
Belgium   25 April 2012   
France   25 April 2012   
Italy   25 April 2012   
New Zealand   25 April 2012   
Argentina   26 April 2012   
Chile   26 April 2012   
Denmark   26 April 2012   
Germany   26 April 2012   
Hong Kong   26 April 2012   
Hungary   26 April 2012   
Israel   26 April 2012   
Netherlands   26 April 2012   
Brazil   27 April 2012   
Colombia   27 April 2012   
Norway   27 April 2012   
Paraguay   27 April 2012   
Spain   27 April 2012   
Sweden   27 April 2012   
Turkey   27 April 2012   
UK   27 April 2012   
Singapore   1 May 2012   
Portugal   3 May 2012   
Russia   3 May 2012   
Slovenia   3 May 2012   
Canada   4 May 2012   
Estonia   4 May 2012   
India   4 May 2012   
Lithuania   4 May 2012   
Poland   4 May 2012   
Romania   4 May 2012   
USA   4 May 2012   

Internet, before release dates!   :P
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on March 6, 2012, 07:16 AM
Avengers trailer sets iTunes download record. (http://www.webpronews.com/the-avengers-trailer-gets-13-7-million-views-in-24-hours-2012-03)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on March 6, 2012, 02:31 PM
I saw scans of some new LEGO Avengers toy which had the "mystery villains" prominently pictured on the front of the box. AND YOU STILL CAN'T TELL WHAT THE $%^& THEY ARE!

Top 4 theories from around the Interwebz:

1) Skrulls
2) Kree
3) Inhumans
4) Atlanteans

I hope they go with #2, it's the only one not lifted right out of the pages of the Fantastic Four.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 6, 2012, 08:21 PM
I saw scans of some new LEGO Avengers toy which had the "mystery villains" prominently pictured on the front of the box. AND YOU STILL CAN'T TELL WHAT THE $%^& THEY ARE!

Top 4 theories from around the Interwebz:

1) Skrulls
2) Kree
3) Inhumans
4) Atlanteans

I hope they go with #2, it's the only one not lifted right out of the pages of the Fantastic Four.

Looking at the ships, I'd say Skrulls.

But Frost Giants are also in that list of possibilities.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on March 13, 2012, 11:00 AM
Joss Whedon talks Avengers at SXSW (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1680860/sxsw-2012-joss-whedon-avengers.jhtml).
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Symposium on March 19, 2012, 11:32 PM
Now known as Avengers Assemble in the UK to avoid confusion with the TV series and 1998 film.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 19, 2012, 11:43 PM

Top 4 theories from around the Interwebz:

1) Skrulls
2) Kree
3) Inhumans
4) Atlanteans

I hope they go with #2, it's the only one not lifted right out of the pages of the Fantastic Four.

I was just rereading your last sentence and laughed, in the last 4 months there was a giant Kree invasion in the pages of the Fantastic Four.  #600-604.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Hemish on March 21, 2012, 04:22 AM
I'll come in and give you guys a thumbs up or down after we see it, no way this isnt being seen on opening day

Sad thing here is as Australia isnt a huge population this isnt even getting a midnight release :(
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on March 21, 2012, 08:52 AM
I was just rereading your last sentence and laughed, in the last 4 months there was a giant Kree invasion in the pages of the Fantastic Four.  #600-604.

Yeah, I definitely would have missed that. I stopped collecting that book the day that John Byrne left. It will always be dead to me after that. I only need the first 5 issues to complete my collection too...so close!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 21, 2012, 09:02 AM
I was just rereading your last sentence and laughed, in the last 4 months there was a giant Kree invasion in the pages of the Fantastic Four.  #600-604.

Yeah, I definitely would have missed that. I stopped collecting that book the day that John Byrne left. It will always be dead to me after that. I only need the first 5 issues to complete my collection too...so close!

That's impressive!  I give this Hickman run the thumbs up.  I came in recently around issue 583 and it's at 604 now.  I love the book.  If you go to comic cons and you can grab them at .50 cents or 1.00 you might want to check them out.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on March 21, 2012, 03:42 PM
How did they end up bringing back the Torch?  I stopped reading after he was left in the negative zone to die...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 21, 2012, 05:38 PM
How did they end up bringing back the Torch?  I stopped reading after he was left in the negative zone to die...

I guess SPOILER ALERT is appropriate.

So Torch stayed in the Negative Zone to seal the door so the Annihilation Wave wouldn't come through.  He killed a **** ton of the wave by going nova, twice, then Annihilus smacked him over the head with some mallet or something.  Torch died.  Then some creatures in the annihilation wave brought him back to life with some healing worms or something.  They used him as a gladiator in an arena for their amusement.  He died and was resurrected over and over.  Then one day they couldn't kill him and he broke out with the other Gladiatiors.  He beat Annihilus down and took the cosmic control rod.  Then he took command of the Annihilation Wave and showed up to help the Avengers and Fantastic Four fend off the Kree invasion of Earth.  Mehhh and that's pretty much where we are now.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on March 21, 2012, 05:59 PM
Thanks for the background.  I figured it wouldn't be long until we saw him again.  I wonder if this means he's immortal now?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on March 31, 2012, 02:34 AM
THE AVENGERS - "Head Count" TV Spot (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwxDZFmo54o)

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Zero-X%20Harlock%20Diecasts/HeadCountTrailer.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on March 31, 2012, 04:26 PM
I saw that photo last night on Marvellous News, but not the new trailer.  Thanks Dale!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on April 5, 2012, 09:03 PM
Another one of the recent commercials put out for Avengers, love the end of this one:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=57493 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=57493)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on April 6, 2012, 08:24 AM
Another one of the recent commercials put out for Avengers, love the end of this one:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=57493 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=57493)

Awesome.  That shot of the helicarrier is pretty sweet too!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 9, 2012, 01:29 PM
Another one of the recent commercials put out for Avengers, love the end of this one:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=57493 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=57493)

Yeah - this one does have a great ending - and I agree with Jman - the shot of the helicarrier is really nice as well....
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on April 12, 2012, 07:39 PM
Finally...Avengers Aliens revealed (spoilers obviously)

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/722736/the-avengers-alien-invaders-revealed/
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on April 13, 2012, 09:22 AM
I saw footage from the Red Carpet Premiere last night.

WTF was Charlie from LOST doing there? Is that little weasel actually IN this movie? Dude must lead a charmed life...so far the only project he's been involved with that hasn't been an epic success was Flash Forward. (ugh)

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 13, 2012, 10:23 AM
Must have been hobnobbing.  I don't Avengers listed for him on IMDB.

BTW - purchased my tickets for 5/4 on Fandango yesterday.  Had a gift card from Christmas, and figured this was a showing that will almost certainly sell out.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on April 13, 2012, 02:09 PM
Finally...Avengers Aliens revealed (spoilers obviously)

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/722736/the-avengers-alien-invaders-revealed/

IIRC, that ties in with some of the plot line we saw in the Ultimate Avengers animated feature.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on April 13, 2012, 02:13 PM
Neat clip from Avengers:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JakeLester/news/?a=57863 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JakeLester/news/?a=57863)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 13, 2012, 02:27 PM
Fan reviews are starting to pop up... and the buzz is highly positive.  That's a great relief.  I expect we'll see a lot more after this weekend's sneak peaks.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on April 15, 2012, 11:44 AM
This is the kind of movie buzz that Disney should have made for John Carter. Disney's marketing team is really weird. They pump up Avengers and ignore John Carter.

I don't know how many of you have seen the Avengers monorail at WDW.

(http://www.miceshots.com/usr/65/2012-03-31-3186.jpg)
(http://www.miceshots.com/usr/65/2012-03-31-3189.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 15, 2012, 01:56 PM
This is the kind of movie buzz that Disney should have made for John Carter. Disney's marketing team is really weird. They pump up Avengers and ignore John Carter.

I read something a while ago that the Carter was a movie green-lit by a previous executive.  The current executive had little incentive to see it succeed.  Or something along those lines.

That said, Disney did spend millions promoting John Carter.  It just had failure written all over it.  All the early polling indicated there was no audience.  So they weren't going to plaster John Carter on the monorail.  Avengers, OTOH, is a guaranteed blockbuster.  You celebrate successes like this.  The monorail isn't going to sell movie tickets.  It's more like "Hey - we're the guys who did Avengers - we're awesome."
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: evenflow on April 15, 2012, 08:30 PM
Very cool pics of the monorail!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 23, 2012, 09:21 AM
The first round of reviews:  Gushingly positive (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/)

My favorite blurb:

Quote
It's phenomenally awesome. No review for the film really matters anyway because you'd be mental to miss the biggest superhero film event since we were pooped out from the big bang.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on April 23, 2012, 12:22 PM
So, my local theater is running a pretty slick party for the Avengers release.  Starting May 3rd at 11:30 am, they are going to show all of the movies leading up to the Avengers (Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, Captain America).  Cost is $40, then directly following you can watch the midnight release of the Avengers.  I already have plans to see it on the 4th or I would jump on this.  Not sure if I could actually survive 14 hours in a theater, but I would love to give it a shot.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 23, 2012, 01:09 PM
AMC is doing that at a number of theaters, and many have sold out.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on April 23, 2012, 02:02 PM
AMC is doing that at a number of theaters, and many have sold out.

I figured it was wide spread, but surprised that ehy sold out!  Anyone going to do this?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 23, 2012, 02:31 PM
Here's some info about the sold out shows (http://www.investor.amctheatres.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=662513)

And here's all the theaters they added. (http://go.amctheatres.com/marvel)

As much as I'd like to go, I don't think I can skip out on my other obligations.



Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on April 23, 2012, 02:36 PM
I went to a marathon of all three Lord of the Rings movies at a theater in Geneva, NY.  They showed the theater cut not the director's cut, but they made it an event with food, costume contest and some vendors in the lobby.  It was a long day but it was fun.  I don't know if I could do 6 films though, especially in a sold out theater where you're packed in with that many people.

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on April 23, 2012, 09:11 PM
It's a cool idea, but spending an entire day at the theater like that can be exhausting.  It's not like watching a movie while sitting in the comfort of your own home, where you can pause the action and take a break.  Sure, there will be some intermissions if you go to the theater.  But the sensory experience of the theater screen and sound can be kind of overwhelming. 

I saw a couple of movies in the theater in one day a few years ago.  IIRC, it was the first Transformers in the afternoon, and Harry Potter that night.  By the time I had seen the second film I was kind of wiped out.  To me, seeing 6 films in a row like that would not be enjoyable.  Especially when the film you really want to see is the last in the marathon.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 24, 2012, 12:18 AM
Kind of defeats the purpose for me purchasing all the Blu Rays and an HDTV.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 25, 2012, 12:19 AM
Epic must see Avengers trailer! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0jBF912xYY)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on April 25, 2012, 07:55 AM
Epic must see Avengers trailer! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0jBF912xYY)

Hilarious.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on April 25, 2012, 10:14 AM
I just watched the post-movie-credits scene... PM me if you want a link to get your **** spoiled.

Edit: link is now dead. Video pulled by Marvel.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BrentS on April 25, 2012, 11:31 AM
Epic must see Avengers trailer! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0jBF912xYY)

Hilarious.

I'm not exactly sure what that was but it made me laugh!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 25, 2012, 11:53 AM
It was a mash-up of various 1970s and '80s Marvel movies and TV shows, along with "Iron Man" and "Black Widow" footage I'm unfamiliar with.  Thor appeared in one of the last TV Hulk specials.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on April 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
I believe I saw a Cylon Raider in there!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on April 25, 2012, 04:24 PM
I believe I saw a Cylon Raider in there!

There are a couple of them actually...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on April 25, 2012, 04:25 PM
I just watched the post-movie-credits scene... PM me if you want a link to get your **** spoiled.

Edit: link is now dead. Video pulled by Marvel.

I do not want to know this time.  I think I've looked up most of them through the years, but I want to be surprised this time around.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Hemish on April 26, 2012, 12:14 AM
Came out today in Aus, just got back from seeing it

BEST MOVIE EVER!!!!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on April 26, 2012, 01:19 AM
I just watched the post-movie-credits scene... PM me if you want a link to get your **** spoiled.

Edit: link is now dead. Video pulled by Marvel.


Damn!  They're really gonna go there?!?!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on April 26, 2012, 08:53 AM
Came out today in Aus, just got back from seeing it

BEST MOVIE EVER!!!!

Good to hear.

PS:  I hate you.  EIGHT MORE DAYS   :-\
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Hemish on April 27, 2012, 12:05 AM
Good to hear.
PS:  I hate you.  EIGHT MORE DAYS   :-\

Hahaha suck it America, about time we get some movies before you guys, going to see it again tomorrow night with my two eldest kids
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on April 27, 2012, 07:24 AM
There was a Avengers screening going on last night in Manhattan... not sure how people got tickets.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on April 27, 2012, 12:58 PM
Picked up my ticket for next Thursday's midnight showing.

Watched IM and Incredible Hulk this week, tomorrow night IM2 and then Thor and CA on Sunday to get ready for next week.

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on April 27, 2012, 02:33 PM
We've been watching the other movies building up to at as well, with Cap coming this weekend.  We'll be going sometime next weekend (prob Saturday), can't wait.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on April 29, 2012, 06:01 PM
Around-the-World Roundup: ‘The Avengers’ Assemble $178.4 Million Overseas Debut (http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3431&p=.html)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 4, 2012, 01:12 AM
Got my tickets for the 7:15 show tomorrow night.  Can't believe it's finally here!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Diddly on May 4, 2012, 04:37 PM
Just got back from a 3D showing (yeah yeah) at Alamo Drafthouse... AWESOME.

Vague comments that don't spoil anything:

- The 3D was very well done, and this is coming from a guy who hates 3D movies... MUCH better than Captain America's 3D version, which I had considered the "best" of the few 3D movies I've seen
- Mark RuffalOWN. Seriously, I was expecting the worst Hulk, but he ended up being the best part of the movie
- They still managed to sneak in some ass shots of ScarJo 8) Was kinda hoping for more Cobie Smulders, but I'll take what I can get

STAY AFTER THE CREDITS. There are TWO scenes, one in the middle and one at the very end.

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on May 4, 2012, 05:46 PM
- They still managed to sneak in some ass shots of ScarJo 8) Was kinda hoping for more Cobie Smulders, but I'll take what I can get

STAY AFTER THE CREDITS. There are TWO scenes, one in the middle and one at the very end.

These are 2 spoilers I'm glad to hear.  ;D
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 4, 2012, 05:55 PM
2 hours to go...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: evenflow on May 4, 2012, 11:59 PM
What is at the very end! damn it, i left after the first.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 5, 2012, 12:32 AM
They kill off Stark! :o







































Just kidding.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 5, 2012, 01:06 AM
Just got back from seeing it.  Awesome movie!

Definitely the best Hulk movie ever made.  Mark Ruffalo did an excellent job.

The scene where Black Widow is talking to Loki in his cell was the best IMAX experience ever....dat ass!

The Dark Knight has a lot to live up to if it is going to be the movie of the summer (which I hope it is)!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 5, 2012, 08:15 AM
Wow.  Just wow.  My new favorite movie ever.  I cannot get over how good this was.  Joss Whedon is a God.  Great use of all the characters, a plot that makes sense, non-stop action and meainingful plot, lots of SJ bootie shots, unreal visuals, and a handful of great jokes that had the audience rolling.  This one's got it all.  And the Hulk...Ruffalo really does steal the show.  Avengers fan or not, this movie is a must see.  I can't wait to watch it again!


Spoilers for those who missed the clips at the end:


The first clip hits about 1/3 of the way through the credits.  There's a discussion between two aliens, as one is telling the others that the humans were not the weak, easily dominated species they initially thought, and that attacking them again would be "courting death."  The second alien, who is obviously behind everything, turns and smiles, and is revealed to be Thanos.  As Marvel guys know, Thanos does court death. 

The second bonus is at the very end.  After they win the day, Stark says they should take a few days off and go out for some kind of dinner...I forget what the type of food is, but he says they should try it.  So, at the very end you get about 2 minutes of the team just sitting there chewing on some lunch.  They do not appear to be enjoying it.  There's no big reveal - just funny to see the 6 superheroes hanging out, not enjoying lunch at a restaurant.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: iFett on May 5, 2012, 05:08 PM
HULK SMASH!!  - he stole the show...much better in this movie then the first two Hulk movies combined   ;D

I didn't quite get the second final clip....
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 5, 2012, 05:14 PM
Ultimate Avengers cartoon movie ended the same way.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: name on May 5, 2012, 05:33 PM
HULK SMASH!!  - he stole the show...much better in this movie then the first two Hulk movies combined   ;D

I didn't quite get the second final clip....

Just a got back from a showing and was going to post how surprised inwas that the weakest link of all the character movies absolutely stole the show on avengers. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: I Am Sith on May 5, 2012, 05:51 PM
Just got back from the matinee with my wife.  Awesome movie.  There was just the right mix of action, dialogue and humor.  Will definitely see it again on the big screen before it goes away.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Neal on May 5, 2012, 08:24 PM


I didn't quite get the second final clip....

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: iFett on May 5, 2012, 11:48 PM
'Right after they revived Stark at the end of the final battle, he said he wanted to have shawarma with all of them and that he didn't even know what it was, but he wanted to try it.  The final scene showed them eating shawarma together.

This still makes no sense to me....even though this makes sense..in some sense
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 6, 2012, 12:08 AM
The final scene was pure, gratuitous Whedon.  With the way he knocked this one out of the park, he was due some indulgence.    ;D
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 6, 2012, 11:37 AM
Mmmmm. Shawarma. Good stuff.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 6, 2012, 02:43 PM
Avengers could break $200 million opening weekend (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/avengers-now-260-5m-overseas-could-reach-585m-worldwide-through-sunday-with-u-s-canada-russia-china-openings/)

Success well-deserved!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 6, 2012, 08:21 PM
Best moment of the movie: Hulk beating the **** out of Loki at the end.  Me, my wife, and everyone I could see around me had their mouths dropped open in disbelief.  So sick.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Rob on May 6, 2012, 08:36 PM
Best moment of the movie: Hulk beating the **** out of Loki at the end.  Me, my wife, and everyone I could see around me had their mouths dropped open in disbelief.  So sick.

That, and when the guy was playing Galaga.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Hemish on May 6, 2012, 08:52 PM
Stark in the helli carrier bridge when he looked around at the monitors with one hand over an eye, took me a second to work out what he was doing, then when he said it I laughed so hard.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on May 6, 2012, 09:14 PM
Best moment of the movie: Hulk beating the **** out of Loki at the end.  Me, my wife, and everyone I could see around me had their mouths dropped open in disbelief.  So sick.

Same here, my favorite moment of the movie (in a movie that was full of them).  That got big cheers in the showing we went to on Saturday as well.  I agree with everything that everyone has said...just an amazing movie.  Deserves all the acclaim (and money) it is getting.  I hope to see it again before it leaves theaters.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 6, 2012, 10:05 PM
Best moment of the movie: Hulk beating the **** out of Loki at the end.  Me, my wife, and everyone I could see around me had their mouths dropped open in disbelief.  So sick.

That and when Hulk and Thor finish tearing into a big alien creature.  Thor looks ready to shake his hand only to have Hulk knock him out.  Priceless.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on May 6, 2012, 10:49 PM
Best moment of the movie: Hulk beating the **** out of Loki at the end.  Me, my wife, and everyone I could see around me had their mouths dropped open in disbelief.  So sick.
This...

Although my only real beef is that Hulk went from uncontrollable raging monster to Superhero with no real explanation.  I'm still not hip on the lineup they used (again Mr and Mrs Pym would have been my choice).  That said...it was absolutely and totally awesome.  I've been a Marvel and Avengers fan since I started reading comics in 4th grade.  I got chills when they circled up in uniform down on the street.  Maybe next time Cap will yell "Avengers Assemble!"
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: I Am Sith on May 6, 2012, 10:53 PM
Although my only real beef is that Hull went from uncontrollable raging monster to Superhero with no real explanation. 

This was the same question my wife had leaving the theater.  Not sure how to explain that one either...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 6, 2012, 11:24 PM
I took it that the Hulk is somewhat simple minded and just needed to be pointed in the right direction.  If you go back to the TV show, he wasn't without heart or compassion.  When there's an invasion, Cap points him at the bad guys and he goes to town, but he still saves that punch for Thor, so he's not all Super Hero exactly.  You also have to think that the Hulk learns and has memmories just like Banner does.  Maybe he starts figuring out what side to be on after the Hellicarier battle.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on May 7, 2012, 12:11 AM
Thanks for reminding me Justin...the first Hulk transformation with the ripping shirt was good flashbacks to the TV show
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 7, 2012, 09:40 AM
LOVED this.  Whedon just punched his ticket.  This movie was so damned good, I really have trouble finding fault with anything.  The Hulk was totally awesome.

As far as the Hulk goes, I think it was strongly implied that Banner had learned how to control the Hulk to an extent, even going back to the coda of The Incredible Hulk.  I think when he went nuts on the carrier, it was because he didn't initiate the transformation.

I guess my one gripe would be the ultra-generic looking alien cannon fodder.  Why they kept that a secret forever is lost on me.  It did not hinder the movie at all, but what was all the cloak and dagger about?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 7, 2012, 12:16 PM
Good point on the aliens.  I thought that part of the story was lacking a bit.  I get that they found Loki and made a deal with him, but I'm not familiar with that race from the comics or what they're about.  They seem to have combined organic & mechanic tech, which would be interesting to know a little more about.  I can never figure out why they don't include things like this in a little piece of dialogue.  Fury could have a file on them, Loki could have said more about them when he is discussing plans early on...lots of options here to give us 60 seconds on what these guys were all about. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 7, 2012, 12:25 PM
Fury probably wouldn't have a file on a species of aliens that nobody knew about before... unless it was an X-File!   ;)

I think "generic invading force" worked fine.  They wanted the cube.  Loki had it.  Why do we need to know much more about them?  They already had what - 8 major characters and a handful of minor ones to give motivation/depth too.  Throwing up more info on why the Chitauri want the cube to conquer the universe wouldn't add much, IMO.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 7, 2012, 01:01 PM

I think "generic invading force" worked fine.  They wanted the cube.  Loki had it.  Why do we need to know much more about them?  They already had what - 8 major characters and a handful of minor ones to give motivation/depth too.  Throwing up more info on why the Chitauri want the cube to conquer the universe wouldn't add much, IMO.

I completely agree.  I guess I just question why they kept it so hush-hush.  It definitely did not detract from the movie in any way.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on May 7, 2012, 02:06 PM

I think "generic invading force" worked fine.  They wanted the cube.  Loki had it.  Why do we need to know much more about them?  They already had what - 8 major characters and a handful of minor ones to give motivation/depth too.  Throwing up more info on why the Chitauri want the cube to conquer the universe wouldn't add much, IMO.

I completely agree.  I guess I just question why they kept it so hush-hush.  It definitely did not detract from the movie in any way.

I just got home from seeing the movie.  First?  WOW!

Second, I think there will be more revealed about the Chitauri in a future installment of Avengers.  Especially considering the first credit teaser scene.  The Chitauri leader started the film conspiring with Loki.  At some point we may see more about Loki and how he was able to link up with the Chitauri, and their own motivations.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 7, 2012, 02:14 PM
My understanding is that the Chitauri aren't even from the regular Marvel Earth-616.  It seems that they are from the Ultimate Universe which I do not follow pretty much at all.

I'd have preferred Skrulls.  Or Kree.  Or Annihilation Wave.  All of which have attempted to invade Earth numerous times.

But considering the Chitauri tried to take over Earth, they really didn't factor into the story much anyhow.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Neal on May 7, 2012, 03:52 PM
Final numbers are in for the domestic weekend gross:

$207,438,708   

That's nuts!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 7, 2012, 04:46 PM
Fury probably wouldn't have a file on a species of aliens that nobody knew about before... unless it was an X-File!   ;)

I was thinking they may have an Area 51 file from capturing a Chitauri spy or something.  I'm not looking for a lengthy history or major character detailing here - just a little something more to understand who/what they are.  Why did they need Loki to get the cube or lead them if they had this huge invasion force?  Have they been watching Earth long?  Are they a race of conquerors?  Are they slaves fighting against their will?  Do they want land? Slaves? Water?  What's up with their technology being partially alive?  It seems like they're just a convenient way to get all the Avengers mixing it up at once.

I guess I just wanted more of a sense of purpose from these guys.  I doubt a true invasion plan of Earth would have been centered around a single portal opening above New York City, where the invading army intends to take over the planet by blowing up buildings and killing as many NYC office workers and cab drivers as they can. 

I'd have been just fine with another minute of dialogue between Loki and Head Chitauri Dude, explaining something like this:
 - The Chitauri are a race of warriors who have already conquered everything in their sector of space.
 - They have been able to defeat everyone due to their unique cyborg tech, weaving organic and mechanical contstructs into weapons
 - Resources and labor are running thin for the Chitauri Empire
 - They are looking to expand their rule and Earth is ripe with slaves, but too distant without the Cube to bring them there and sustain their invasion
 - Once they destory New York they can use it as an example to get the countries of Earth to surrender

It's not perfect, but that little explanation or something like it would have gone a long way in helping make the Chirauri invasion at least somewhat credible.  I loved the movie and will definitely watch again - this is really my only complaint with it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on May 8, 2012, 09:29 AM
I agree with that regarding the 'who, what, how and why' of the Chitari; it's kind of like GL story-telling: "read the book if you want motivation, exposition, explanations, I'm all about putting the big digital bang on the screen!"
all kidding aside, the Avengers was very well done and I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 8, 2012, 09:43 AM
I haven't seen the movie yet but is the plot the same as the one used in the Ultimate Avengers movie from a few years ago? They used the Chitauri too.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 8, 2012, 09:52 AM
It is very much a combination of the first two Ultimates series.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jeff on May 8, 2012, 10:10 AM
$207,438,708

Am I the only person left in America who hasn't seen this yet...?  Man, Cap & Friends sure have set the summer bar high for Batman and Spidey.  :-X
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 8, 2012, 10:22 AM
I saw it again, and Thanos is there right at the beginning, pulling the strings with the Chitauri leader.  It is implied that the Chitauri are his army (or more to the point, it is never implied that they are only teaming up with Thanos).  So their motivation is left intentionally vague for the reveal in the credits.  Again, their motivation is not at all important to the plot of the film.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 8, 2012, 10:29 AM
Also, Loki is directly asked by Thor who he is working for and he does not answer.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on May 8, 2012, 11:10 AM
I haven't. Taking a half day off work tomorrow and going while the wife is at work and the girls are at daycare.  8)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 8, 2012, 12:23 PM
$207,438,708

Am I the only person left in America who hasn't seen this yet...?  Man, Cap & Friends sure have set the summer bar high for Batman and Spidey.  :-X

It's down to you and my mom I think.  And she has tickets for the Thursday matinee.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on May 8, 2012, 12:30 PM
I'm going to hit it this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 8, 2012, 12:43 PM
I saw it again, and Thanos is there right at the beginning, pulling the strings with the Chitauri leader.  It is implied that the Chitauri are his army (or more to the point, it is never implied that they are only teaming up with Thanos).  So their motivation is left intentionally vague for the reveal in the credits.  Again, their motivation is not at all important to the plot of the film.

You saw Thanos in the beginning of the movie?  I totally missed that.  Can you elaborate on what you saw?  I'm going to have to see this again sooner than I planned.

Importance to the plot is subjective.  You might have been okay with them just flying in to shoot up NYC, but clearly myself and others were looking for a little more.  Their motivation and true objective isn't clear to me at all.  Thanos is a genius/strategist, so if he really wanted to take over Earth, I think his plan might be a little more elaborate.  That said, maybe he intentionally staged all of this to bring the Avengers together.  Maybe he wants them working as a team for some greater purpose or wanted to see their capabilities for the next stage of his plan.  If that were the case, then I think it does make sense to have an army of aliens just pop in and start fighting without any strategic targets or plan in place.  A little strange that he wouldn't find a way to snatch the cube in the process though.  Even if his plans are bigger, that's a pretty amazing power source to just leave behind.

I'm also going to go on record as hoping we have something more to look forward to than an ongoing story about Asgard and the Cosmic Cube.  I really like the way they tied the Thor and Captain America movies into this one to tell a bigger story about Loki and the Cube, but I think I might have been happier seeing Loki and the army fall, with some unrelated evil plot on the horizon for the next film.  I like building off prior movies (think Star Trek films) versus telling one long story over 3 or more pictures.  Just seems like there are so many other stories and villians to pursue.  Ultron?  Masters of Evil?  Kang?  Yes please!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 8, 2012, 12:58 PM
You saw Thanos in the beginning of the movie?  I totally missed that.  Can you elaborate on what you saw?  I'm going to have to see this again sooner than I planned.

You don't see Thanos.  You see the Chitauri leader guy narrating at the beginning.  On first viewing it's not obvious he's talking to someone.  On the second you can tell he's reporting to a superior.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 8, 2012, 01:29 PM
You saw Thanos in the beginning of the movie?  I totally missed that.  Can you elaborate on what you saw?  I'm going to have to see this again sooner than I planned.

You don't see Thanos.  You see the Chitauri leader guy narrating at the beginning.  On first viewing it's not obvious he's talking to someone.  On the second you can tell he's reporting to a superior.
Exactly. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on May 8, 2012, 06:27 PM
On my first viewing I got the sense that the Chitauri leader was having a conversation.  Anything else would be seem like exposition for it's own sake.  The post credits scene just cemented that it was a conversation, and that it was with Thanos.

So in the sequel, I think we're left with some questions?  Do you introduce Starfox as well?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on May 9, 2012, 01:20 AM
Starfox is such a C lister that I can't see that happening.  Again to me the whole Pym deal should have been here and axed Black Widow and Hawkeye...then they could have added Vision and Wonder Man...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 9, 2012, 08:13 AM
Starfox is such a C lister that I can't see that happening.  Again to me the whole Pym deal should have been here and axed Black Widow and Hawkeye...then they could have added Vision and Wonder Man...

I would have enjoyed this direction as well.  They could have covered Pym's breakdown in #2 and dealt with Ultron.  Lots of ramifications coming out of that storyline.  It will be interesting to see what they do with the characters.  They have an A-list group of actors now, so it would be hard to take some of them out of the mix.  I could have seen Hulk going away, but everone loved him in this one, so that might force them to keep him around again.  Maybe Hawk and Widow? OR will the cast stay the same?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 9, 2012, 09:27 AM
Black Widow and Hawkeye were part of the Ultimates books, which was the basis of the movies.  They're only extraneous in the sense that they weren't in the original Avengers.

Granted there were a lot of other characters in The Ultimates, Giant Man and the Wasp among them, but so were Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch (as incestuous siblings...).  But my point though is that Hawkeye and Black Widow have as much right to be in the movies and any of the other Ultimates.  I don't see them being replaced in favor of anyone else... especially given how well they've been received.

It'll be interesting to see if Edgar Wright's Ant-Man plays into Avengers 2.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on May 9, 2012, 10:39 AM
Starfox is such a C lister that I can't see that happening.  Again to me the whole Pym deal should have been here and axed Black Widow and Hawkeye...then they could have added Vision and Wonder Man...

Starfox's deal has always been his tie-in with Thanos, without a doubt.  Without that link he's not that interesting of a character.  But the introduction of Thor has brought with it the concept of super-powered aliens.

The Ant Man movie may eventually lead to some sort of involvement with the Avengers down the line.  Although that's slated for 2014.  Will that be enough time before another installment of Avengers? 

Well, Iron Man 3 is slated for 2013, and that's already shaping up to be interesting.  Captain America 2 & Thor 2 are both slated for 2014.  And there's also a new Hulk movie in development with Mark Ruffalo signed for the role.  With that kind of schedule, you've got to think that Avengers 2 could be about 3 years out at the very least.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 9, 2012, 10:47 AM
Also keep in mind that Hawkeye and Widow are not really too FX-heavy to present on film (comparatively speaking).  With IM and Hulk being completely CG, I am sure that the idea of adding two more characters with a lot of FX budget played into the decision. 

PLUS, Hawkeye and especially Widow represent the "everyman" in this story.  They are highly skilled at what they do, but the other Avengers are on such a higher level than they are.  See Widow's reaction to nearly being trampled.  She fears Banner.

They could easily do Ultron as Jarvis going out of control or have Banner and Stark accidentally create him.  I think sometimes we try to very rigidly make the movies match the source material, but as long as it is entertaining, who cares if it follows issue 367 panel-for-panel?  This series has been based on The Ultimates, but that never means that they have some slavish obligation not to go in a different direction.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 9, 2012, 10:51 AM
Hence the exclusion of Quicksilver / Scarlet Witch incest...   ;)

If Ant-Man moves forward they can easily incorporate both him and Wasp in Avengers 2.  Probably minus the spousal abuse from The Ultimates...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 9, 2012, 10:55 AM
And there's also a new Hulk movie in development with Mark Ruffalo signed for the role.  With that kind of schedule, you've got to think that Avengers 2 could be about 3 years out at the very least.
This isn't 100% accurate...  Ruffalo was signed to reprise the role of Banner in 6 films, but that does not mean a Hulk film.  He could show up in IM3 and he'll surely be in Avengers 2.  I see many making the leap that there will be a new Hulk movie, but past box office performance makes that a very risky proposition.

Many times, a studio will lock in an actor for several films "just in case" so that if they need him, he is obligated to perform.  They could just as easily tear up the contract.  I believe Norton was signed for multiple films as well, but we all know how that turned out.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 9, 2012, 11:02 AM
Bob Iger:
"The Avengers isn't just a film. It's a franchise from our perspective. Obviously, it was helped a lot by the success of the 'Iron Man' movies and of 'Thor' and 'Captain America'. From 'The Avengers' we get a chance to make 'Thor 2' and 'Captain America 2' and 'Iron Man 3' and hopefully another 'Avengers' movie. So this one film that is immensely successful... is going to get a number of other films and franchises...We have an ability to leverage what was a very fun film done by a great group of filmmakers into something much bigger for the company," he continues, "and the effect will be prolonged and that's very, very exciting for us."

This isn't to say there won't be a Hulk 2 (3?), but I doubt we'll see it before Avengers 2.  It seems like they have things planned out for the next few years.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on May 9, 2012, 02:02 PM
I know that Sam Jackson signed for 9 films but I don't remember if that was before or after IM (so I don't know if IM is included in the 9).  So they're definitely looking at him for the long haul but that doesn't mean we'll get a Nick Fury movie just like I don't know if we'll get more Hulk films.  But that would be cool to see, a Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. origin film could be fun.

I'm hoping we get a Hawkeye origins film.  Not to give too much away, but it seemed like there's some backstory with him and Widow and a film exploring that would be excellent.

I'm all for seeing other characters on the Avengers but if they do add people, I hope they subtract somewhere also.  We've seen it before where too many villains in a movie (Spider-Man 3) really hurt things and the same can happen with too many heroes as well.  What really helped the Avengers is that we had 4 origins stories prior to the film and the fact that Joss Whedon is a good writer and director.  If we find ourselves with a new writing/directing team and they're not quite as good, things could go south fast.

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Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on May 9, 2012, 02:12 PM
I know that Sam Jackson signed for 9 films but I don't remember if that was before or after IM (so I don't know if IM is included in the 9).

In February 2009, Samuel L. Jackson signed a nine-picture deal with Marvel Entertainment to play the role of Nick Fury in Iron Man 2 and other films, acting as a vehicle for characters such as Captain America, Thor, the Avengers, and S.H.I.E.L.D.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: iFett on May 9, 2012, 02:30 PM
I didn't bother with CapN America or Thor movies, but looks like I missed out on origins of the cube and the Loki guy?  Didn't matter though.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 9, 2012, 03:37 PM
I guess if Jackson ever gets tired of being Nike Fury. We can get this guy to do it again....

(http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/2/29/Nick_Fury_Agent_of_Shield_film.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on May 9, 2012, 06:12 PM
Saw it today.  I was most impressed that the Avengers could keep the baddies within a 4 block radius around Grand Central station!  ;)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on May 9, 2012, 08:00 PM
I saw it today as well. Loved, loved it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 9, 2012, 11:49 PM
I didn't bother with CapN America or Thor movies, but looks like I missed out on origins of the cube and the Loki guy?  Didn't matter though.

If you're interested, Captain America gives a little more perspective on how the Nazis/Hydra used the Cube and where it came from.  Thor's movie covers a little bit of the relationship between him and Loki.  He's more of an Eddie Haskle type in Thor.  Neat cameo with Hawkeye in that one as well.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Morgbug on May 11, 2012, 08:39 PM
$207,438,708

Am I the only person left in America who hasn't seen this yet...?  Man, Cap & Friends sure have set the summer bar high for Batman and Spidey.  :-X

If you use 'America' in the broader sense to include those of us dependent almost entirely upon you to purchase our export products, then no. 

I really want to see it and the reviews are all great, though I'm trying to gloss over much of the discussion to avoid ruining any aspects of the film.  But I have very little enjoyment going to theaters anymore as some knob always has their cellphone going doing something or more likely I'm beside one of the "narrator" types that has to chat throughout the whole thing.  With my old job my hours were flexible enough that I could catch a noon show and see the movies I wanted.  No longer so it'll be a while before I see this.   :-\
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on May 22, 2012, 02:33 PM
Caught it again this weekend, just as great as the first time.  Can't wait for this to hit blu ray (sounds like September 25th maybe?), definitely a movie I could watch over and over.  Looking forward to the rest of the summer with Spidey, Batman, GI Joe, and Brave (Pixar's latest)....then onto the Hobbit in December :).
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on May 25, 2012, 12:19 PM
Yeah, September 25th is the expected date for the Blu Ray release.  It does seem pretty far off, and I agree:  I could watch this movie several times over.  I'm just a little disappointed that it's already out of the IMAX theaters.  I saw it in 3-D, but seeing it in IMAX 3-D would've been pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediMoses on June 15, 2012, 11:34 PM
What's the deal with a 3 hour director's cut coming out later this summer?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on June 16, 2012, 07:44 AM
What's the deal with a 3 hour director's cut coming out later this summer?

Hmmn.  I thought the movie was near perfect as is.  Would be interesting to see what else they left out though...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on June 19, 2012, 07:13 PM
That is one unfortunate action figure stand...

(http://www.pswcs.com/graphics_temp/download.jpg)

I can't figure out if this one is as gorgeous as the first Black Widow they sold or not...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 19, 2012, 08:42 PM
Why is the stand like that?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on June 19, 2012, 09:05 PM
That's how I'd be if I were the stand.

But seriously - no idea.  Maybe they're always like that.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on June 19, 2012, 10:05 PM
Think same stand as the 1st release, they just extended it all the way...

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fs1VlJ7iL.jpg)

(http://i33.tinypic.com/2zqsbx1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on June 19, 2012, 10:18 PM
That is really the optimal way to display figures of any type. Raising it up to be under each armpit is how I did it for the longest time but it can be limiting. Going "the crotch route" can get a lot of cooler poses out of the figure at least in my experience.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on June 19, 2012, 10:44 PM
That's a pretty amazing action figure.  I've avoided Hot Toys to this point, but that's going to be tough to resist.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on July 8, 2012, 11:08 AM
Worth EVERY PENNY! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2170105/Scarlett-Johansson-set-make-history-best-paid-female-actor-time-13million-deal-Avengers-2.html)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on August 7, 2012, 01:34 PM
Staying with a winner (http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/joss-whedon-to-direct-avengers-2/)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on August 7, 2012, 01:47 PM
Staying with a winner (http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/joss-whedon-to-direct-avengers-2/)

No brainer.  Great decision.  Hadn't heard about the live TV show though - that's interesting!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on August 7, 2012, 02:42 PM
Definitely good news.  Whedon definitely had a strong grasp on how to make these characters work together on-screen. 

Obviously there are lots of questions.  Will the ranks of the Avengers grow?  Will other Avengers leave the team?  And then there were the rumblings about bringing Galactus & the Silver Surfer into the Marvel Studios fold.  The possibilities are almost endless.

As for Avengers related projects?  There seem to be so many that it'll make your head spin!

Iron Man 3 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1300854/) (2013)

Thor - The Dark World (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981115/) (2013)

Captain America:  Winter Soldier (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1843866/) (2014)

Ant-Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478970/) (No release date)

Nick Fury (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482631/) (No release date)

...And Mark Ruffalo has been signed to a multi-film deal as well.  Whoa!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on August 7, 2012, 05:09 PM
It just unbelievable how well they're pulling this whole thing off.  If this next run lives up to its predecessors, it'll be up there with the Harry Potter series in terms of cinematic accomplishments.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: name on August 8, 2012, 02:10 PM


...And Mark Ruffalo has been signed to a multi-film deal as well.  Whoa!

Ed Norton seriously ****** the pony on this.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on August 8, 2012, 09:01 PM
Ed Norton seriously ****** the pony on this.

Somehow, I doubt he cares...dude dumped Salma Hayek. He clearly does not think like the rest of us. LOL.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Sprry75 on August 9, 2012, 08:49 AM
It just unbelievable how well they're pulling this whole thing off.  If this next run lives up to its predecessors, it'll be up there with the Harry Potter series in terms of cinematic accomplishments.

Man, that may even be an understatement.  Harry Potter was ambitious, but it's essentially just a long series.  Marvel's been able to do multiple stand alone movies that perform well, and then dovetail into the team-up event movie...I can't think of anything like that other than comic-book cross overs.  But certainly, nothing like it has been done in TV or cinema.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on August 21, 2012, 06:13 AM
Avengers is set to come out on DVD & BluRay next month.  So why not check out the gag reel in the mean time? (http://io9.com/5936468/the-avengers-gag-reel-assembles-a-lot-of-laughs?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_twitter&utm_source=io9_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on August 21, 2012, 10:40 AM
Looks like some deleted and alternate scenes are starting to show up as well:

Avengers Deleted/Alternate Scenes (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=66066)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on August 29, 2012, 09:19 PM
SHIELD pilot by Whedon greenlit by ABC?!?!

Someone get a call in to Summer Glau's agent!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on August 29, 2012, 10:21 PM
A SHIELD pilot?  Definitely interesting.  Although I am a little bummed that it (probably) wouldn't include Agent Coulson.  By the time Thor rolled around he became a pretty cool character.

And does Cobie Smulders wind up starring this?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on August 29, 2012, 11:13 PM
SHIELD pilot by Whedon greenlit by ABC?!?!

Someone get a call in to Summer Glau's agent!

 ;D

WASP!!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on September 12, 2012, 10:35 AM
A little bit about the Avengers sequel from director Joss Whedon (http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/09/joss-whedon-reveals-plans-for-avengers-sequel.html):

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September 11, 2012 4:59 PM ET
Still riding high on the success of "The Avengers" (currently the third highest grossing movie of all time worldwide), writer-director Joss Whedon is opening up (just a little) about his plans for the sequel.

In the midst of charming the Toronto Film Festival with the premiere of his new low budget Shakespeare adaptation "Much Ado About Nothing" -- starring frequent collaborators Alexis Denisof, Amy Acker, Nathan Fillion and Sean Maher -- Whedon spoke with Vancouver's 24 Hours about returning to the Marvel universe.

"The creation of the [Avengers] team is not the happy ending," Whedon says in the interview. "It is the beginning of something that is complex and difficult, and now I get to dig a little deeper. And maybe, while I'm digging, just twist that knife. And that's exciting for me."

Twisting that knife will have to wait a little while. "The Avengers 2" isn't due until 2015, after we've seen more solo Avenger pics including "Iron Man 3" (due May 3, 2013), "Thor: The Dark World" (Nov. 8, 2013) and "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" (April 4, 2014). Marvel also has another superhero team project in the works with "Guardians of the Galaxy" due out Aug. 1, 2014.

As to how involved he'll be in his role as a consultant to the many projects in the Avengers' universe, Whedon said he expects his contributions to be minimal: "Very talented people are writing and directing these movies and what I don't want to be is the guy they dread, who's going to come in and say [in a pompous British accent] 'Oh, well I have the power to say change this.' I'm not that."
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Diddly on September 25, 2012, 02:24 PM
Got Avengers at Target today... got the super duper 3D/BR/DVD set because there was some sort of ad error so Target marked it down to $20, same price as the regular set, so why not.

Exclusive wise: Target has a 90 minute bonus disc with every set, Best Buy has a $70 set that includes a $30 Sideshow gift card and a poster and Wal-Mart has a free comic book (my store did not have this version ::))
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on September 25, 2012, 02:30 PM
Just posted this in the BD/DVD thread as well.  Yeah, I noticed that Target's online weekly ad listed it at $19.99, while the paper ad (and shelf tags) had $24.99.  Mine rang up at $19.99 as well, so I was happy to see that.  Good price for the movie alone, let alone all the extra discs that version comes with.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on April 25, 2013, 01:05 PM
It looks like Joss Whedon is letting some info slip about Avengers 2 (http://bit.ly/11EXyPW), and that a brother & sister from the storied past of the Avengers may be coming to the next installment with Earth's mightiest heroes.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on April 25, 2013, 07:22 PM
It looks like Joss Whedon is letting some info slip about Avengers 2 (http://bit.ly/11EXyPW), and that a brother & sister from the storied past of the Avengers may be coming to the next installment with Earth's mightiest heroes.

Northstar and Aurora? Awesome. 

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on April 26, 2013, 09:22 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Wonder_Twins.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Neal on April 26, 2013, 06:56 PM
It looks like Joss Whedon is letting some info slip about Avengers 2 (http://bit.ly/11EXyPW), and that a brother & sister from the storied past of the Avengers may be coming to the next installment with Earth's mightiest heroes.

Northstar and Aurora? Awesome.

I'm going to guess Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 26, 2013, 07:05 PM
Colossus and Magik!

Yeah but no it's probably Wanda and Pietro.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on April 26, 2013, 07:30 PM
It looks like Joss Whedon is letting some info slip about Avengers 2 (http://bit.ly/11EXyPW), and that a brother & sister from the storied past of the Avengers may be coming to the next installment with Earth's mightiest heroes.

Northstar and Aurora? Awesome.

I'm going to guess Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver.

Methinks you would be correct.  Both the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver have been on the team over the history of the comics, and they are siblings. 

The interesting note from Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige is that given the backstory of the characters, both Marvel Studios AND Fox would have rights to use the characters in certain contexts.  Marvel Studios can use them in an Avengers project as members of the team.  But Fox also retains rights to the mutant siblings in a possible X-Men project given the characters' relation to their father, Magneto.  Case in point:  they're not terribly visible, but both the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are shown on the Wanted poster that's prominently featured in the cover art for Uncanny X-Men #141, the classic "Days of Future Past" storyline that's supposed to be the basis for the next X-Men film project.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on April 29, 2013, 08:03 AM
This will be interesting to see.  Both of their power sets are pretty tricky to show live.  Quicksilver's superspeed has been done before, but not very well IMO.  Making him race while everyone else is moving at normal speed could look silly.  And Wanda's hex powers of probability are hard enough to explain to people, let alone show on the big screen.  I'd be concerned that the average Joe who doesnt know her wont really get her powers.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediMoses on April 29, 2013, 11:25 PM
This will be interesting to see.  Both of their power sets are pretty tricky to show live.  Quicksilver's superspeed has been done before, but not very well IMO.  Making him race while everyone else is moving at normal speed could look silly.  And Wanda's hex powers of probability are hard enough to explain to people, let alone show on the big screen.  I'd be concerned that the average Joe who doesnt know her wont really get her powers.

She'll also offer fanboy eye candy.

Got preview tix to IM3 for Wed evening.  My son is more excited than I.
 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on June 20, 2013, 02:12 PM
Huzzah!

RDJ returning as IM in Avengers 2 & 3 (http://marvel.com/news/story/20786/robert_downey_jr_to_return_as_marvels_iron_man)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on June 20, 2013, 02:27 PM
Just saw that.  Excellent news indeed!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on June 20, 2013, 04:03 PM
Huzzah!

RDJ returning as IM in Avengers 2 & 3 (http://marvel.com/news/story/20786/robert_downey_jr_to_return_as_marvels_iron_man)

Thank the Maker!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on June 20, 2013, 04:08 PM
So, in that article it says the new Avengers movie is slated for first week of May, 2015.  Isn't that when Star Wars VII is slated to come out?  I can't imagine Disney splitting audiences like that...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on June 20, 2013, 04:08 PM
Make the thanker!

Now if they could get RDA on board as MacGyver. And RZA as Black Panther. And references to RFK.  :P
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on June 20, 2013, 04:23 PM
I really can't see Ep VII coming out in May 2015 based on where they are now but stranger things have happened I guess.  All other SW movies were released Memorial Day weekend
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: efranks on June 21, 2013, 02:21 PM
Rumors starting to kick around today have Star Wars VII coming May 29, 2015.  I'll believe it when we hear there's actually a script.

   E...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on June 21, 2013, 03:03 PM
Lucas isn't directing and digital effects have come a long way since Episode 3.  There's no reason if SW7 is filmed in 2014 that it couldn't be in theaters in May 2015.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Diddly on June 21, 2013, 03:38 PM
They announced the filming location months ago and didn't they already have work done on the script/story back in October? I'd be willing to bet they're a lot further along than we think they are
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Diddly on July 10, 2013, 02:34 PM
Vin Diesel's name is being thrown around for Avengers 2
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on July 10, 2013, 03:39 PM
Vin Diesel's name is being thrown around for Avengers 2

I know they aren't going that direction, but he would make an awesome Crusher Creel. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on July 10, 2013, 05:43 PM
Thanos maybe?  No voice grittier.  He just needs to drop the Jersey accent.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: evenflow on July 10, 2013, 08:04 PM
Thanos maybe?  No voice grittier.  He just needs to drop the Jersey accent.

Why you gotta mess with my accent, I think a Jersey Thanos is the situation.  :P

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on July 10, 2013, 08:56 PM
That photo of Vin Diesel made the rounds today.  Just him standing in front of that issue of Avengers with Giant Man on the cover got me thinking "Hmmm, Vin Diesel as Giant Man"?  But then that might fly in the face of the 2015 Ant-Man project.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Mikey D on July 10, 2013, 09:31 PM
Vision
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on July 11, 2013, 08:07 AM
Vision

Again - Jersey accent.

An android with a Jersey accent?  That was the original idea for C-3PO...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on July 11, 2013, 08:38 AM
They'll cast against type and he'll be Egghead. Movie critics will say he lacks Vincent Price's charm, not realizing that the difference between DC and Marvel.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Mikey D on July 11, 2013, 08:56 AM
I didn't hear a Jersey accent when he did the voice of the Iron Giant.  If there's a big concern with Vin saying 'wooder' (water), then hire a dialect coach.  I actually think his deep voice would work well with Vision.  Did Christian Bale sound Welsh when he was Bruce Wayne? 

Others are basing their opinions for Giantman because of him standing in front the comic with GM being so prominent, but I was drawn to his comment about 'tunnel vision'.

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on July 11, 2013, 09:58 AM
I'm mostly familiar with Diesel from the Fast/Furious franchise.  I haven't seen him in a role where he attempted to lose the accent.  Some people can.  Others can't.  There are countless movies where an American actor has tried to sound British and failed miserably.  So I'll be skeptical until I hear him do it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on July 11, 2013, 11:26 AM
There's too many British accents, makes it easy to fail. In the US,  if a foreign (or domestic) actor can master the midwestern "no accent", they'll be okay.

Most people not from the American South suck at southern accents, sounding like parodies.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on July 11, 2013, 01:22 PM
I had always heard it called the Middle Atlantic "no accent".  The midwestern accent is something that's very discernible.  Especially with the whole "Pop" thing.

Either way, the British accent has been a big go-to for lots of movies and television shows for plenty of period pieces.  How many WWII movies have the Germans speaking English with a British accent after all?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on July 11, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mid-Atlantic? Wikipedia says that applies to upper class types,  film actors from decades ago and theater actors. It's very noticable to Americans when someone talks like, say Cary Grant.

Actual US middle atlantic region includes places like Baltimore, which has it's own accents.

Wikipedia calls the "no accent" I was referring to as "General American". It's commonly used by U.S. newscasters, and not as posh-sounding as Mid-Atlantic.

Enemy at the Gates had the Soviets with British accents, even Ron Perlman's character. It was strange, certain didn't help the movie.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on July 11, 2013, 04:18 PM
Mid-Atlantic? Wikipedia says that applies to upper class types,  film actors from decades ago and theater actors. It's very noticable to Americans when someone talks like, say Cary Grant.

Uh...

You do know that Cary Grant was English, right?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on July 20, 2013, 06:51 PM
Mid-Atlantic? Wikipedia says that applies to upper class types,  film actors from decades ago and theater actors. It's very noticable to Americans when someone talks like, say Cary Grant.

Uh...

You do know that Cary Grant was English, right?

One of Wikipedia's examples. George Plimpton would be an American born one.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on July 21, 2013, 08:50 AM
It doesn't get much more clear about the plot direction of the Avengers sequel when they reveal a title like Avengers - The Age of Ultron.

That title, plus the rumored inclusion of the Scarlet Witch, makes me think that the Vision might potentially be in the mix, too.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on July 21, 2013, 11:28 AM
That sounds too complicated for a mass appeal comic book film. Avengers had the benefit of established characters, lead villain and the McGuffin cube. How do you intro Scarlett Witch, Vision and Ultron in 2 and 1/2 hours and have room for the main cast as well?

I guess they might make it work.


Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on July 21, 2013, 01:42 PM
Joss Whedon is doing a live webcast from SDCC right now (http://marvel.com/sdcc2013), and of course he's talking Avengers - The Age of Ultron.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on July 23, 2013, 12:23 PM
That sounds too complicated for a mass appeal comic book film. Avengers had the benefit of established characters, lead villain and the McGuffin cube. How do you intro Scarlett Witch, Vision and Ultron in 2 and 1/2 hours and have room for the main cast as well?

I guess they might make it work.
They will introduce these characters and concepts over the films leading to Avengers: TAoU.  They didn't introduce any character, or even the MacGuffin aside from Maria Hill in The Avengers; that work was done in IM, IM2, TIH, Thor, and CA:TFA.

I thought the first film was the ultimate love song to the 12YO me.  This has the potential to top it, as Ultron was my favorite Marvel villain.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2013, 08:28 PM
I've also read in the news the past couple days that Elizabeth Olson is close to being signed on to play Wanda/Scarlet Witch for Avengers: Age of Ultron.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on August 29, 2013, 12:19 PM
James Spader cast as Ultron in Avengers: Age of Ultron

http://marvel.com/news/story/21099/exclusive_avengers_age_of_ultron_casts_james_spader_as_the_films_legendary_villain (http://marvel.com/news/story/21099/exclusive_avengers_age_of_ultron_casts_james_spader_as_the_films_legendary_villain)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on August 29, 2013, 12:41 PM
The Spectacular Spader-Man

Watch as he gives Hawkeye hell for dating that lower class red-head Black Widow.

Thrill as makes his secretary do kinky stuff.

See the awesome android blackmail the Avengers using sex, lies and video streaming...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on August 29, 2013, 01:32 PM
I can see the voice working.  Creepy without being shrill.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Diddly on August 29, 2013, 01:38 PM
Witty remark off with RDJ?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on August 29, 2013, 04:51 PM
Spader has arrogance for days, and that sums up Ultron's character in a big way.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on September 24, 2013, 07:55 PM
The Avengers: Age of Ultron teaser that was shown at SDCC has shown up online.  Not a whole lot, but kind of neat:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=87595 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=87595)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 25, 2013, 12:50 AM
Looks like they took it down already.   :'(
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on September 25, 2013, 09:11 AM
It was nothing.  Audio clips from The Avengers and an Ultron mask.  Poor quality.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on September 25, 2013, 12:58 PM
It was nothing.  Audio clips from The Avengers and an Ultron mask.  Poor quality.

Yeah, I watched it last night before it got taken down.  It was pure teaser fare, and nothing else.  The Ultron face was really the only new element.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on September 27, 2013, 06:53 AM
Official teaser:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr5rzSMNmRM
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 27, 2013, 12:25 PM
Thanks Bill.  Pretty interesting despite being just a teaser.  Does anyone know if Hank Pym is cast for this movie?  It almost sounds to me like Ultron might come from Stark's development work.  He already has a series of AI machines that help out in his lab, so I wonder if one goes rouge somehow?  I hope they find a way to mirror the comics storyline for Ultron and bring Pym into the fold, but that's going to be hard unless they focus the whole story on it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on September 27, 2013, 12:50 PM
I think Whedon said that Pym isn't the creator of Ultron in his version.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 27, 2013, 05:39 PM
I think Whedon said that Pym isn't the creator of Ultron in his version.

There you go then.  I guess Stark can now be blamed for all the worlds munitions as well as the Ultron problem.  Too bad they're going that route - the Hank and Janet storylines are pretty rich throughout the Avengers lore.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on September 27, 2013, 09:04 PM
I don't know how well that story fits into a Disney Avengers franchise.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on September 30, 2013, 11:04 AM
I agree, Bill.  They also run the risk of overly bloating the plot with too many characters/details.  We nerds LOVE stuff like that but the average movie-goer gets annoyed and gives up (see The Hobbit).  Sooner or later the whole thing will collapse on the weight of its own complexity.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 4, 2013, 12:16 AM
I don't know how well that story fits into a Disney Avengers franchise.

Are you referring to the Hank & Pym storyline from the comics?  I think they could cover that without the wife abuse much like they covered Stark without the alcoholism.  Pym as a B-character scientist who wants to impress his friends by building (and defeating) a sentient robot makes a great storyline IMO.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on October 4, 2013, 09:29 AM
Ant Man was beating his wife?!?! WTF?

When did all this go down in the actual comics? Must have been 80's or 90's right?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on October 4, 2013, 10:14 AM
Yeah he sort of went off the deep end in the early 80's when he was Yellowjacket

(http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/pymgreatest8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on October 4, 2013, 11:27 AM
In the Ultimates books (on which much of the Marvel movie universe is based) his abuse was a lot worse.

But then the Hulk was running around screaming he was going to rape and eat people, so they can probably tone it down a bit.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 4, 2013, 06:19 PM
Hank cracked under the stress of being a super hero/husband/scientist and turned into a royal jerk.  He takes on multiple identities as he tries to resolve his feelings of inferiority, turning from Ant-Man to Giant Man to Goliath to Yellow Jacket.  YJ is his most confident persona, but also his most cocky and arrogant.  He abused Janet and was ineffective on the team.  To prove himself, he created an AI Robot called Ultron, making it strong enough to best the rest of the Avengers.  His plan was to swoop in and defeat it using a kill switch, regaining the trust of his wife and friends.  Of course, it goes horribly wrong with Ultron disarming his own kill switch and escaping with the knowledge that his "dad" tried to kill him.  Hank eventually loses his wife and retires for several years.

Ultron remakes himself over the years, first vowing to kill the Avengers, then all of humanity.  It's a pretty cool story of a fallen hero that leads to some great down stream consequences.  Ultron eventually repeats his father's mistake, creating a synthetic being called the Vision to attack the Avengers, and the Vision turns on him to join the heroes.  The Vision was made using Wonder Man's brain patterns, which eventually creates a love triangle between the Vision, resurrected Wonder Man, and the Scarlet Witch.  Vision marries the Scarlet Witch, and on and on.  Ultron ultimately becomes one of the Avengers greatest heroes and a never-ending source of guilt for Hank.  Who knows how they will approach it in the movie, but I just love that original story.  Flawed heroes seem so much more believable to me.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on October 4, 2013, 10:38 PM
  Ultron ultimately becomes one of the Avengers greatest heroes and a never-ending source of guilt for Hank. 

He's like Bender, he says he wants to kill all humans, but is really good at heart.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 7, 2014, 01:31 PM
Surprised this wasn't posted earlier:

(the voice of) Jarvis is The Vision. (http://www.thewrap.com/behold-vision-paul-bettany-cast-colorful-android-avengers-age-ultron/)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on February 7, 2014, 03:06 PM
Interesting choice.  So, are they just giving him a bigger part is there some storyline connection between Jarvis and Vision via Ultron?  Maybe Ultron is working to bring other AI's to independence and helps create a body for Jarvis, who redubs himself the Vision?  Anyone know Vision's backstory from the Ultimates?  I'm only familiar with the traditional Marvel U storylines, which they are obviously not following.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 7, 2014, 03:51 PM
I'm thinking instead of Pym creating Ultron who creates Vision, we'll see Stark creating Ultron who then hacks Jarvis to create Vision.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on February 7, 2014, 05:36 PM
It's an interesting development.  J.A.R.V.I.S as an AI has been characterized as fairly powerful.  Paul Bettany seems like he could step into the role of the Vision pretty well.

As for who actually develops Ultron?  I think there are plenty of possibilities out there for how that might develop.  Stark's tech hasn't been completely secure over the history of the Iron Man movies, or the Avengers.  Stane got a hold of Stark's Mk 1 plans in the first Iron Man.  Justin Hammer weaponized the Mk 2 armor, turning it into War Machine.  Also, Vanko managed to hack that armor in addition to the creation of the Hammer Drones and his own Whiplash armor.  Stark hacked SHIELDs computers in AVENGERS.  One would think that it might also be possible for SHIELD to hack the Mk 6 armor when it was on the helicarrier.  And in Iron Man 3 AIM managed to hack the Iron Patriot armor.  Add all that up and Tony's armor has been somewhat less than secure.

But I think that some of what we saw in Iron Man 3 may be at the root of the Ultron creation story.  After Tony works on the implants that allow him to summon the Mk 42 armor remotely, we see a scene where Mk 42 is assembled and has independently made it's way to Tony as he's sleeping.  Perhaps what's next is that a new suit beyond Mk 42 becomes self aware, leading to Ultron. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on February 7, 2014, 10:10 PM
Good casting no matter which way they go, I liked him in Priest.

This thing is going to be the complete opposite of that JLA train wreck in every way.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on February 8, 2014, 09:12 AM
As for who actually develops Ultron?  I think there are plenty of possibilities out there for how that might develop.

I'm thinking Stark, but not for the reasons that Pym created Ultron.  He's not going to do it with the intent of defeating Ultron to redeem himself with the team, he's going to do it to defend against another alien attack.  And then AI go bad.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on February 9, 2014, 01:44 AM
My theory is that Ultron will be built by that shady government agency from the first Avengers in response to the supers being too unwilling to follow orders and think for themselves. Based on what I've seen in the Cap trailer, it looks like Cap might be making a stand and doing what he thinks is right rather than following orders. I think Ultron will be built in response to that, in fear of the avengers turning rogue.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: jedipurge on February 12, 2014, 07:12 PM
this is starting to sound an awful lot like that SW short story where an IG-88 incarnation plugged into DS 2 and 'became' the DS.  ::)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on March 24, 2014, 07:33 PM
Photos have been sneaking out from the set. In the images that turned up on Facebook are Jeremy Renner in costume as Hawkeye, Elizabeth Olsen as the Scarlet Witch and an actor in an Ultron motion capture suit. Hoping that it was actually Spader doing that, because it would be very cool!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 25, 2014, 03:32 AM
I already don't like how Quicksilver looks.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on March 25, 2014, 07:33 AM
I already don't like how Quicksilver looks.

+1. It would help if he shaved.  I was never much a fan of QS anyway, so wasn't expecting much.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on March 25, 2014, 08:06 AM
Hoping that it was actually Spader doing that, because it would be very cool!

Zero chance of that, honestly.  I saw some "making of" video a while back that explained that if you don't see the actor's face, it's almost certainly not the actor on screen.  When somebody is being driven around with a hood over his head, that's a body double.  Even stuff like when you see hands shifting the gears or steering in Fast & Furious, those aren't Vin Diesel's hands.  The main actors get paid too much to be spending time on those kinds of shots.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on March 25, 2014, 09:09 PM
RDJ did some of the motion capture in the mocked up Iron Man suits for those films.  And I was very surprised that Mark Ruffalo did a lot of the motion capture work for the Hulk in Avengers.  There's probably no guarantee that Spader is doing motion capture for Ultron.  But I have been surprised to see just how many actors who are cast in voice roles will spend time on set to work on dialogue with the other actors.  Benedict Cumberbatch did that for The Hobbit - The Desolation of Smaug.

I think directors are pushing more for their actors to do this.  Even though we're in an age of cinema where CGI characters are fully accepted, having an actor who is playing that CGI character part to play off does make the process much more organic for the other actors.  Ewan McGregor was quoted as saying that the stark blue and green screen environments of the PT made it difficult for him to immerse himself in the world of those films.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on March 26, 2014, 08:23 AM
Mo-cap is a different thing, though.  After Gollum, I see a lot of actors wanting to do mo-cap to fully own a role. 

That on-set Ultron wasn't a mo-cap rig.  I figure it was there so the CG guys can get the reflections perfect.  And they wouldn't bring in Spader to do that.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on March 29, 2014, 09:08 AM
Ultron revealed! 

(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10001492_10152391571849715_213665081_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on March 29, 2014, 09:35 AM
That helmet looks great, but I am a little disappointed in Ultrons puffy black winter coat.  He could at least wear an admantium scarf or something.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on March 30, 2014, 02:07 PM
Little disappointing initially but need to see all angles. The ear thingies need to be angled back more it seems like. He also seems to lack that maniacal sort of grin with the slanty eyes and gaping jaws.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on March 30, 2014, 02:14 PM
It's probably not the final mask design.  This is a tool the CG guys use to get lighting/reflections correct.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on March 30, 2014, 08:49 PM
The teaser that was shown at SDCC showed Ultron's head, and it looked very much like Ultron appears in the comics.  I've got to think that this mask is probably just a mockup for the purposes of lighting reference for principle photography.  Remember all of those behind the scenes videos for the making of the Star Wars prequels?  You may recall seeing someone walking around the set with this globe on a stick.  It was used for very much the same purposes.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on July 16, 2014, 02:10 PM
In advance of SDCC, Entertainment Weekly has released the first official pics from Avengers: Age of Ultron:

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20399642_20834753,00.html (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20399642_20834753,00.html)

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2014/07/14/EW1321-1322-Ultron.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on July 17, 2014, 10:01 AM
Love that new Cap costume.  Very cool.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on July 17, 2014, 05:01 PM
Love that new Cap costume.  Very cool.

I liked the last one better - seems a little noisy for Cap.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on July 18, 2014, 08:32 AM
I like that it is closer to the costume from the first Cap film.

Also, the army of Ultron's behind them. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on September 7, 2014, 08:18 AM
Promo art featuring Vision:

(http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2014/nordling/avenbanner.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on September 7, 2014, 10:41 AM
That's pretty awesome.  I'm still wondering when we might see some sort of a trailer.  Especially after the buzz following the SDCC panel.  Are we really going to have to wait until Christmas time?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on September 8, 2014, 08:52 AM
Sideshow concept art:

(http://bigfanboy.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/vision-sideshow.jpg)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 8, 2014, 09:34 AM
I guess thanks to GOTG we are all use to red skinned aliens now.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on September 8, 2014, 11:16 PM
Vision is a synthetic being like an android, not an alien you racist.

Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on October 22, 2014, 09:45 PM
Age of Ultron official trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmeOjFno6Do) - holy balls.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on October 22, 2014, 10:23 PM
Holy ****balls Batman!  :o  8)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on October 22, 2014, 10:32 PM
Way to go Marvel.  So someone leaks the trailer?  Marvel says screw them and they release the trailer for real!  Smart move on their part.  And the leakers are left hanging while Marvel gets a lot of attention for a huge project.

Oh, and the trailer looks awesome!  The stakes clearly appear to have been raised.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: I Am Sith on October 22, 2014, 11:13 PM
May cannot come soon enough.  Holy crap that was awesome!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 23, 2014, 01:07 AM
Wow.  Just wow.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Diddly on October 23, 2014, 01:15 AM
Man, that was ESB level dark. Spader sounded great!

Marvel's reaction to the leak (https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/525071656306626560) was awesome too.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on October 23, 2014, 09:39 AM
That was amazing...blown away!!!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Greg on October 23, 2014, 10:39 AM
This looks great! I loved the new Iron Man suit!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on October 23, 2014, 07:20 PM
It's a good thing Star Wars is released at the end of the year. It would get overshadowed by that!! 2015 is definitely Disney's year.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: evenflow on October 25, 2014, 12:32 PM
Looks good, hope we get some Thanos though.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 27, 2014, 05:10 PM
Looks good, hope we get some Thanos though.

I bet we get some, just not much.  I thought I heard that he was lined up to be the main baddie for #3, so we should have another wave of Marvel flicks building up to it in 2018.  I hope Downey changes his mind about playing Iron Man for more flicks...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on October 30, 2014, 10:33 AM
Special footage with trailer below...

Get a Special Look at Marvel's "Avengers: Age of Ultron" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGwuoYKhqx8&feature=youtu.be)

'Age of Ultron' Mystery Woman: ID'ing the Avengers New Lady Friend (https://www.yahoo.com/movies/age-of-ultron-mystery-woman-iding-the-avengers-new-101287980162.html)

Nuff said!  ;D

(https://acreativeact.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/05975fb4_aqgmxsm.gif)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on October 30, 2014, 03:03 PM
That video is hilarious. Thank you!  ;D
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: RyanMan12 on October 31, 2014, 09:00 AM
Did  anyone also see the leaked  footage of  marvel infinity wars?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on January 12, 2015, 10:15 PM
New Avengers Trailer Arrives - Marvel's Avengers: Age of Ultron Trailer 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZoO8QVMxkk)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BrentS on January 12, 2015, 11:24 PM
New Avengers Trailer Arrives - Marvel's Avengers: Age of Ultron Trailer 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZoO8QVMxkk)

Oh boy!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on January 13, 2015, 12:04 AM
I feel like Avengers 2 is going to be pretty good. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on January 13, 2015, 05:46 AM
Looks like things are going to get pretty dark.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on January 15, 2015, 07:03 AM
Is it me or does the Hulk look kind of grey in this shot (http://youtu.be/MZoO8QVMxkk?t=50s) of the trailer?  It could be an interesting development for the Hulk's character.  Or it could just be that the Hulk is just a little dirty or dusty in that particular scene.  But if Joss Whedon DOES want to explore the grey Hulk?  I think that could be fantastic!
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on January 15, 2015, 08:39 AM
He's still green.  All of the colors look a little washed out.  Take a look at Iron Man's typically bright red for example. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on February 11, 2015, 04:35 PM
Sideshow (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/marvel-ultron-prime-hot-toys-902343/?utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+New+Release%3A+Hot+Toys+Ultron+Prime+Sixth+Scale+Figure&utm_content=Image+-+New+Release%3A+Hot+Toys+Ultron+Prime+Sixth+Scale+Figure&utm_campaign=TM_HTUltron_902343) has a pretty good look at the new Ultron...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on March 4, 2015, 01:33 PM
Just ******* bring it on!  ;D  8)

Marvel's Avengers: Age of Ultron - Trailer 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAUoeqvedMo)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on March 4, 2015, 03:34 PM
Uh, wow.  58 days and counting...
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Brian on March 4, 2015, 07:26 PM
So cool, can't wait.  Nice little tease there at the end as well.  Plus, rumors of a new Force Awakens trailer attached to this movie, so the countdown truly begins :).
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BrentS on March 6, 2015, 04:49 PM
Who's in for a 29 hour Movie Marathon?  http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/5/8160031/avengers-age-of-ultron-marvel-movie-marathons (http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/5/8160031/avengers-age-of-ultron-marvel-movie-marathons)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on March 6, 2015, 05:27 PM
They must have included Hulk so people can take a nap or go get something to eat.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on March 6, 2015, 09:14 PM
Thankfully, Ang Lee's Hulk isn't considered a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  I get what he tried to do with that film.  And it was an artistic take on the Hulk's story.  But I don't think it was something that comic fans were prepared to embrace.

I just don't know how anyone could manage to sit through all of that.  And I think that if anyone is going to nap through any of the films in the marathon, it would probably be during Iron Man 3.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on March 24, 2015, 07:33 AM
Russo Brothers set to direct Infinity War (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/11491390/Russo-Brothers-set-to-direct-Avengers-Infinity-War.html)

Can't argue with the quality of Winter Soldier, so I think the franchise is in good hands.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BrentS on April 30, 2015, 04:01 PM
Headed to the local cinema now for an Avengers Double Feature.  The wait is finally (almost) over.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BrentS on April 30, 2015, 11:31 PM
Good, certainly not great.  Far behind some of the other Marvel movies but I still enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: DSJ™ on May 1, 2015, 03:32 AM
Just got back from seeing it. I thoroughly enjoyed it.  :)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on May 1, 2015, 09:27 AM
Saw it last night as well, thought is was really well done. A bit plodding at times, but needed to break up the virtually non-stop action. Vision and Wanda/SW were the stand outs here. Surprised by the storyline focus that Hawkeye got.

Highlights:
"Veronica" - love how that was handled and how it worked as a containment system/parts store
Ultron - Spader seemed to have a great time with that role.
Humor overall was good, and the opening word in the film was "****".
Loved seeing the return of War Machine and Falcon - especially at the end at the headquarters/
Vision was very well done. I'm not sure how much of a departure from the comics they took with his origins but it seems to work here.
The twins were great with Scarlett Witch being my fav and I like this version of Quicksilver more that the DOFP version.
Effects overall were amazing

Lowlights:
Baron Von Strucker seemed to just be thrown in there
I could have done without the TWO sappy love subplots but I gave decent character dev. so I guess it's okay.

Two thumbs up, I need to see this in IMAX 3D yet as i've heard a lot of great things and you get to see The Force Awakens trailer with that presentation too. :)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 1, 2015, 12:55 PM
Loved it.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BrentS on May 1, 2015, 01:52 PM
Saw it last night as well, thought is was really well done. A bit plodding at times, but needed to break up the virtually non-stop action.

I guess I sort felt like the story was disjointed from the beginning to the end.  Parts felt super-rushed and parts felt like they were dragged out way to much. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jeff on May 1, 2015, 01:55 PM
Thoughts from those that have seen it - OK for my two 8 (almost 9) year olds? 

I've seen mixed reviews on language/violence levels... especially since it starts out with a "bang". 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jayson on May 1, 2015, 03:02 PM
Thoughts from those that have seen it - OK for my two 8 (almost 9) year olds? 

I've seen mixed reviews on language/violence levels... especially since it starts out with a "bang".

Should be okay. There are a few swears in there; "****", "son of a bitch" and some innuendo ex: Tony teasing BW and Hulk about "hiding the zucchini". Nothing too traumatic I guess. A few nice cleavage shots of Black Widow and Scarlett Witch, too.  ;)
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Jeff on May 1, 2015, 04:19 PM
Thanks Jayson.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 2, 2015, 12:57 AM
I'd hate to be you explaining why you didn't take them Jeff!  :D

Like Jayson said, it's not too over the top with language.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Diddly on May 2, 2015, 02:19 AM
Just got back. It was alright... nothing special though, which keeps it consistent with the rest of the Phase 2 films IMO. It almost felt like there were too many characters, and unlike the first, they couldn't find enough screen time for them all.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 2, 2015, 06:46 AM
Are you saying CA:TWS and GotG were just "alright"?!?

This movie isnt threatening for any Oscars, but it was ton of fun, the plot was not insulting, there was plenty of character development, and the action was amazing.

Has Marvel finally turned the magic corner where the fans root for them to fail?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 2, 2015, 03:42 PM
Thoughts from those that have seen it - OK for my two 8 (almost 9) year olds? 

I've seen mixed reviews on language/violence levels... especially since it starts out with a "bang".

Sam and I caught up on Cap2, Thor2, and IronMan3 this week, so we're heading out to see Avengers Sunday morning @ Southdale.  If your boys were fine with the other Marvel adventures, I think they'll be fine with this too.  I'll let you know if I feel differently afterwards though.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Diddly on May 2, 2015, 08:29 PM
Are you saying CA:TWS and GotG were just "alright"?!?

Winter Soldier and Guardians were really good, but Iron Man 2 and Thor 2 left a lot to be desired, IMO. I felt AoU fell below the first two but above those last two. Maybe I was too hyped up for it, or maybe I was expecting someone to be offed. I dunno.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on May 3, 2015, 10:10 PM
Saw it in today, liked it didn't love it.   The slow parts were what did it for me I think...I loved the party scene but the second interlude with Hawkeyes house was a drag...I also felt the Klaw inclusion was a bit much as well but there was some cool fights.   I could quite possibly be reaching Super Hero overload...could be the sameness of a lot of these Marvel plots (hey let's try and recover this stolen gem)

Liked the humor, effects were great, liked the end bit how they ended the Hulk plot and how the new team echoes the changing lineups of the comics.  I also didn't like how they couldn't figure out the stone was doing the same don thing it was doing to them in the first movie (infighting)

I'll give it a 7/10...worth seeing in a theater
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 4, 2015, 04:50 PM
Jeff - my 8 year old loved it and there was nothing beyond the little bit of language that was previously mentioned.  They actually turned the "bad language" into a bit of a joke in the movie.

*WARNING - SPOILERS GALORE*

I saw it yesterday and thought it was even better than the first.  The story was solid from front to back, visuals were amazing, they managed to keep the fun/joking despite a darker story, and I thought they had a great balance across all the characters despite how easy it would be to push a few of these guys to the background. Spader's Ultron was entertaining and came across perfectly from the comics as a creature who outwardly despises humanity, but can't help taking on human forms.  Vision, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver were all done really well - maybe even better than their comic counterparts.  I thought it would be tough to explain her power in so little time, and they changed the nature of it to a great extent, but her "weirdness" was really well done.  I thought the Quicksilver speed would be tough to portray as well, but he had a ton of really well filmed scenes.  Bringing in Falcon and War Machine for small roles was great to see as well and really helps tie these movies together.  I got chills watching Iron Man and War Machine pair up again towards the end and seeing the new cast take shape.  While the stories may differ, this is such a great nod to what the Avengers mean to me in the comics.

Has Marvel finally turned the magic corner where the fans root for them to fail?

Apparently so.   I'm really surprised at the reactions from some of the critics' reviews and comments here.  I heard complaints on the radio this morning about how Ultron didn't seem robotic enough, RDJ seems too old to be Stark, there were too many jokes given the gravity of what was happening, that Avengers was trying to capitalize on the WTC attack by demolishing a building, etc.  Seriously?  I totally understand that people are going to have their own opinions and we all like different things.  And as an Avengers fan since 2nd grade, I'm equally aware that I might have a greater appreciation for the characters and stories verus genpop.  But I would love to better understand some of the feedback.  Maybe people are just burnt out or looking for something not to like?  This film was near perfect for me and easily cracks my top 10 of all time.

Good, certainly not great.  Far behind some of the other Marvel movies but I still enjoyed it.

Far behind which other Marvel movies?  GOTG, IM, and Winter Soldier are probably my top 3, but this and the first Avengers round out my top 5.  Curious to know which ones you'd put so far ahead of this one?

Just got back. It was alright... nothing special though, which keeps it consistent with the rest of the Phase 2 films IMO. It almost felt like there were too many characters, and unlike the first, they couldn't find enough screen time for them all.

I thought they did an amazing job finding relevant storylines for everyone in the cast AND was delighted to see supporting characters show up from the other films, like Heimdall, Erik Selvig, Falcon, War Machine, etc.  Likewise, I was happy that we didn't get Coulson, Potts, Jane Foster, or more Loki as I think having everyone show would be over the top.  I was a little disappointed that Widow's primary role was a love interest for Banner - that felt forced - but it didn't really detract from the movie for me and made Hulk's disappearing act at the end a little more meaningful. 

Maybe I was too hyped up for it, or maybe I was expecting someone to be offed. I dunno.

You mean someone like Quicksilver?   ???  Were you hoping for multiple deaths?  All signs were pointing to Hawkeye (who's one of my favorite characters), so I thought they did a great job switching that up, while still taking someone out.  I was never a fan of Pietro in the comics, but thought he was great here.  I kept hoping he'd pull a Coulson or the witch would resurrect him.

Hawkeyes house was a drag...I also felt the Klaw inclusion was a bit much as well but there was some cool fights.   I could quite possibly be reaching Super Hero overload...

I think you may be reaching Super Hero overload.  They needed to slow things up and get the Avengers off the grid for a while, so while Hawkeye's hideout slowed down the story, I felt like they needed that break.  This is a team that always wins, so to get so decimated they really needed a break.  Clint having a family was the only part of the movie I really didn't care for - not because it was slow, but because that's not who he is in the comics.  I thought he seemed to have something going with the Widow in the first film (and dated her in the comics) and they introduced his comic wife, Bobbi Morse, in AOS, so to make him the family man felt weird to me. 

As for cameos like Klaw, I love those little nods to the fanbase.  Out of curiosity, would you have liked the movie more if it was "Random Arms Dealer" guy instead of Klaw?  Its not a deal breaker for me either way.  The vast majority of people don't know anything about Klaw, so at worst these character additions are just nice Easter Eggs showing comic characters we'll never see elsewhere.  At best, they have the opportunity to go back to that character later on to tell more story.  I love it when comics set up seemingly small subplots that have the potential to grow into something big later down the road.

I also didn't like how they couldn't figure out the stone was doing the same don thing it was doing to them in the first movie (infighting)...could be the sameness of a lot of these Marvel plots (hey let's try and recover this stolen gem)

I'm confused...the mind gem in the Chitauri Scepter is what Loki was using to manipulate people in the first film.  In this movie, the Witch was using her own power to prey on the fears of various team members.  Was there something more to the mind gem in Avengers 2 that I missed?  When the team is in-fighting over Vision, I think that was more about standing up for their beliefs versus any kind of mind control.  As for the gems, Guardians, Cap 1, Thor 2, and Avengers were the only ones really focused on recovering them.  Iron Man 1-3, Thor 1, & Cap 2 don't touch on them and I thought the mind gem in Avengers 2 was a really small part.  They have to touch on them to some extent to build the larger Thanos storyline.

Anyway, sorry for the long rant.  My son loved it, I loved it, I'll definitely see it over and over again.  God Bless America.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on May 4, 2015, 10:14 PM
Yeah there was mind control from the the Witch but also during the scene where they start fighting in the tower when they have the Vision coffin...it was the same thing that happened in Avengers 1.

I still have it as a 7/10 and did say I liked it, I just didn't love it as much as the first.  Part of that was length and the Hawkeye hometown and the Klaw scene were what could have been left out IMO...I did dig the fact that Ultron ripped off his arm
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 5, 2015, 12:43 AM
Yeah there was mind control from the the Witch but also during the scene where they start fighting in the tower when they have the Vision coffin...it was the same thing that happened in Avengers 1.

I didn't take that as the gem causing them to fight.  That was more Tony Stark going off and attaching an AI to the android, which is basically what started the entire problem to begin with.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: EdSolo on May 5, 2015, 06:57 AM
I am also seeing a lot of "I liked it, but certainly not as good as the first one".  At this point, I don't know where I put if yet in relation to the first Avengers.  I've only seen it once, and I had both my kids with me so I couldn't give the movie 100% of my attention.  I certainly enjoyed it.  My wife wants to see it, so I may get another chance to see it in the theater.  If that is the case, it will be the only MCU movie besides GOTG that I have seen twice in the theater.  At this point, I think this movie will definitely be in my top five with Iron Man, Winter Soldier, Avengers 1, and Guardians.  Not sure what order I would put them in though.  We will have to see how Ant Man does to see if there is any Marvel fatigue.  I think it is safe to say they are still miles ahead of DC.  While Superman v. Batman will make a ton of cash, it does not look anywhere near as good as Age of Ultron was.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BrentS on May 5, 2015, 11:55 AM

Good, certainly not great.  Far behind some of the other Marvel movies but I still enjoyed it.

Far behind which other Marvel movies?  GOTG, IM, and Winter Soldier are probably my top 3, but this and the first Avengers round out my top 5.  Curious to know which ones you'd put so far ahead of this one?

You missed the emphasis on "some".  I don't think our opinion is much different.  I put Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy and Iron Man 1 in my top 3.  After that the list really starts to jumble together.  There are parts of each MCU movie that I absolutely loved but collectively they don't stand out.  I didn't like the Winter Soldier nearly as much as most (and I can't really put my finger on why) but that's not the same thing as me saying that I didn't like it - because I did and I've watched it at least 3 times already.    So when I say far behind, all I'm really saying is that  Ultron doesn't crack my top 3.   

Sometimes I find that movies grow on me even more after second viewings... one of my favorite parts of all the MCU movies (and agents for Shield for that matter) is the "witty" dialogue and humor.  Unfortunately with the exception of two scenes (IM/Hulk and Thor/Vision) I felt like I'd already seen all the "funny" stuff in the trailers.  I suspect upon a second viewing, I won't have those same faults and will probably like it more.   
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: evenflow on May 5, 2015, 10:16 PM
I enjoyed it. I think it was on par with the first Avengers but no where near as good as GotG. 
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 6, 2015, 03:39 PM
Yeah there was mind control from the the Witch but also during the scene where they start fighting in the tower when they have the Vision coffin...it was the same thing that happened in Avengers 1.

I didn't take that as the gem causing them to fight.  That was more Tony Stark going off and attaching an AI to the android, which is basically what started the entire problem to begin with.

+1

What was cool about the infighting this time is that it feels like a prelude to Civil War.  Not sure if they'll follow close to the comic, but the storyline *SPOILER* basically pits Iron Man's ideology against Cap's and everyone else takes sides.  In A2, you can see it start to spill over into the other characters as they align behind the team's two leaders.  The growing division between Steve & Tony's belief systems and the way they operate feels like added setup for Cap's next movie and I love that they tie the movies together in that way versus just springing some new, out-of-character approach to fit the plot.  The dynamic actually feels very similar to Anakin and Obi-Wan for me - practically brothers in a sense, but you can see the eventual rift growing between them.  Maybe I'm just adding unintended perspective based on what I think is coming, but its really well thought out if that's the direction they're taking.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 7, 2015, 09:27 AM
Also there was that slight touch of bitterness when Stark replied, "He's the leader..."

I agree the fight was entirely about "He's going to build another Ultron - we gotta stop this!"  It wasn't some fuzzy-brained Mind Gem trick.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scott on May 7, 2015, 11:58 PM
Maybe I'm remembering wrong then but I swore Thor even said that the gem was messing with their heads
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on May 8, 2015, 08:32 AM
Finally caught it the other night and walked out of the theatre with no complaints whatsoever. That's pretty rare for me. I just thought everything was well done.

I do think they should have had Coulson on board the Helicarrier since he was the one who had it commissioned to be rebuilt in the first place. Dude is pretty much walking around out in the open all over so I don't know how people like Hawkeye and Widow who still have SHIELD connections wouldn't have realized he was still alive by now.

I liked seeing Linda Cardellini again as Mrs Hawkeye. And I guess I am a moron because i had no idea that Scarlet Witch was being played by one of the Olsen twins. Wow. They finally did something to earn some actual acting cred.

Also feel stupid now because I had no clue Klaw was in that movie. Did I blink and miss the guy in red suit with a cone hand? Or did this have something to do with the Wakanda/Vibranium conversation? We're not talking about that Aussie douche with the brand on his neck I hope?
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on May 8, 2015, 08:58 AM
Elizabeth Olsen is the sister of the Olsen twins.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 8, 2015, 09:12 AM
She is the more talented of the sisters. You will never hear her say, You got it dude!
The twins are fashion moguls.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: McMetal on May 8, 2015, 10:14 AM
Ok, so they are still irrelevant. Whew!  :D
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 8, 2015, 11:29 AM

I do think they should have had Coulson on board the Helicarrier since he was the one who had it commissioned to be rebuilt in the first place. Dude is pretty much walking around out in the open all over so I don't know how people like Hawkeye and Widow who still have SHIELD connections wouldn't have realized he was still alive by now.


Whedon said in an interview that this was done so that people who saw Avengers I but have not watched AoS would not be confused.  That said, Coulson could have been there to hand over project Theta, and had a quick moment with the team with some quip about how they revived him.

I am surprised that I haven't heard any Whedon-hater complain that he put a character into the story that essentially looks at the audience and literally says "I bet you didn't see that coming" as he is killed off.  LOL.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Mikey D on May 8, 2015, 03:58 PM

Also feel stupid now because I had no clue Klaw was in that movie. Did I blink and miss the guy in red suit with a cone hand? Or did this have something to do with the Wakanda/Vibranium conversation? We're not talking about that Aussie douche with the brand on his neck I hope?

That's exactly who that was.  He's going to be in Black Panther, most likely with the sonic hand considering Ultron whacked his arm off.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: P-Siddy on May 8, 2015, 05:50 PM

Also feel stupid now because I had no clue Klaw was in that movie. Did I blink and miss the guy in red suit with a cone hand? Or did this have something to do with the Wakanda/Vibranium conversation? We're not talking about that Aussie douche with the brand on his neck I hope?

That's exactly who that was.  He's going to be in Black Panther, most likely with the sonic hand considering Ultron whacked his arm off.

This is probably his brief backstory.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 9, 2015, 07:18 AM
Whedon said in an interview that this was done so that people who saw Avengers I but have not watched AoS would not be confused.  That said, Coulson could have been there to hand over project Theta, and had a quick moment with the team with some quip about how they revived him.

I also read Whedon thought it'd be cheap for him to pop up again "here I am!" when his sacrifice was the big thing that brought the team together in the first movie.  Though I agree it's hard to believe people like Stark, Black Widow and Hawkeye wouldn't have noticed he's still alive.  Maybe they were all working for boat SHIELD instead of basement SHIELD.

I am surprised that I haven't heard any Whedon-hater complain that he put a character into the story that essentially looks at the audience and literally says "I bet you didn't see that coming" as he is killed off.  LOL.

That was a nice touch.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on May 13, 2015, 07:22 AM
I finally got to see the movie yesterday.  I thought it was very good, but had a significantly different tone than the first film.  The overall sense that got conveyed to me is that this is a far more dangerous world after the events of New York.  Collectively, it seems that the Avengers themselves realize their own mortality despite their super-human abilities.  And the introduction of the Scarlet Witch has brought their own personal wounds to the surface.

The divisions between Cap and Stark seemed pretty evident from the outset.  Rogers seems to have maintained his idealism and has  taken on that mantle of leadership in a very natural way.  While Tony recognizes that they've been lucky and that a fatality on the team seems more like a matter of "when" than "if".  And that did come to pass at the end of the film.  And that's why Stark developed the Iron Legion and it led to his plan to build Ultron.  As for the conflicting Artificial Intelligences?  I think that's an interesting way to introduce both Ultron and the Vision.

The fight between the Hulk and the Hulkbuster armor was AMAZING!  Banner and Stark both seem to have planned for the possibility of the Hulk going on a rampage like this in a meticulous way.  This is something that seems to have been in the back of Banners mind for some time.  He knows just how destructive the Hulk can be, and the fight between Iron Man and the Hulk really served to quantify why he is so fearful of a "Code Green" incident.  It also makes it abundantly clear why he chooses to disappear at the end of the film.

I definitely like how this film also managed to get characters like War Machine and Falcon involved.  They've been cool supporting characters in the other films, and seeing them come into their own in an Avengers film was pretty cool.  As for the new team?  It's going to be interesting to see where things go.  And based on the cast list for the next Cap movie, I get the feeling that the new team may work their way into that film first.


Also feel stupid now because I had no clue Klaw was in that movie. Did I blink and miss the guy in red suit with a cone hand? Or did this have something to do with the Wakanda/Vibranium conversation? We're not talking about that Aussie douche with the brand on his neck I hope?

That's exactly who that was.  He's going to be in Black Panther, most likely with the sonic hand considering Ultron whacked his arm off.

He's South African, but that's besides the point.  I thought his scenes were an interesting way to introduce Klaw, especially with him hoarding vibranium.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Scockery on May 13, 2015, 10:33 PM
Saw it today. It was okay. Entertaining but nowdays everything's so CGI overload, that it becomes a bit numbing after awhile.
 I think having the final conflict/crisis around a fictional country didn't give as much stakes, even if the whole world was also at risk.
Baron Strucker becomes another underused bit player...he could've been on Agents of SHIELD, not like Thomas Kretchsmann hasn't done tv before (THE RIVER).
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on May 14, 2015, 08:11 AM
It was odd how Strucker was killed unceremoniously off-screen.  Makes me wonder if that was another of the cut storylines.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: I Am Sith on May 16, 2015, 11:44 AM
I was finally able to go out and see it last night.  Definitely going to need to see it again before I rank it in terms of the other MCU movies.  I think my main 'problem' was that I saw it with my wife who is not a big fan of continuous fighting scenes, so she had pretty much checked out by the time they made it to South Africa...

*Spoilers* in my commentary.

I definitely enjoyed it and continue to laugh at the unexpected humor (e.g., Hawkeye talking about Quicksilver).  But some of the opening fight scenes were too over the top/CGI for my liking (thinking when Cap throws the motorcycle).  I know that we are talking about a Superhero movie though so I take that stuff in stride.

I thought that Spader was the perfect voice for Ultron.  But not having been a die-hard Avengers comic book fanboy, the introduction of the Ultron project by Stark/Banner and then the realization of it in the movie was a bit too fast for my understanding/liking.  It was as if the entire backstory of it had already been introduced in another movie that I had missed and I wasn't in on the information...

I'm going to miss having J.A.R.V.I.S. as the voice/operating system inside the Iron Man suits.  Not sure how I feel about F.R.I.D.A.Y. yet and will have to see how things go in Cap 3 before I finalize that opinion.

So overall, another solid, entertaining and enjoyable Marvel production that I'm sure will rank high on my list once I've had a chance to dissect it over and over again.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: Nicklab on May 25, 2015, 08:49 AM
Joss Whedon keeps on talking about Avengers - Age of Ultron (http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/05/avengers-age-of-ultron-alternate-ending), alternate endings, plot points as well as disagreements with the studio.

Personally I'm a little disappointed that Whedon wasn't able to get the grey Hulk into the fight sequence with the Hulkbuster.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: JediJman on May 25, 2015, 02:57 PM
I kind of wish they had brought you-know-who back at the end as filmed.  He was shaping up to be cooler than I expected.  The extra Hulk scene would have been cool as well.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: jedipurge on June 17, 2015, 02:09 PM
so FINALLY went and saw avengers 2.
i don't know why but was very unimpressed.
i've LOVED all the other anvengers related movies so far, but still on the fence bout IM3. and this just did nothing for me. i've tried to stay away from reviews/ forums regarding the movie cuz i didn't want to ruin it so i'm not sure if i'm in minority here. but i feel like i should've just gone and seen jurasic world instead.  :'(
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: BillCable on January 4, 2016, 08:19 PM
"Creed" director Ryan Coogler Confirmed as Marvel’s Black Panther Director (http://screenrant.com/black-panther-director-ryan-coogler/)

Haven't checked out Creed yet, but the accolades I've read point to this being a solid choice.
Title: Re: The Avengers (and sequels)
Post by: 77Skywalker on January 23, 2016, 10:27 PM
I saw the first one 10 times in the theaters.  Really just so awesome and I can't wait for Infinity War parts 1 and 2.