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Title: Mattel DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on July 14, 2005, 11:10 AM
It looks like Mattel must have gotten tired of seeing Marvel Legends get all the hype, and they are starting up a new "DC Superheroes" line.  You can see a mock up of the packaging, as well as links to the first "wave" of figures HERE (http://www.superherotimes.com/newsarchive/000794.php).  If they do these ML-style, they could be pretty cool.  There seems to be conflicting information out there, with Superherotimes saying that this is a "DC Superheroes" line, where TNI seems to be leaning towards this being a continuation of the Batman line.  Sounds like the sculpts will be done by the Four Horsemen (from MOTU fame), so that might be cool.  I'm not sure, but either way it could be a neat way to get ML scaled figures of Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, etc.

Actually, from the looks of the first wave (Batman, Superman, Bizarro, Bane, Scarecrow, Azrael), it does look awfully Bat-themed, so maybe it just is the Batman line and SuperHeroTimes was incorrect.

Now...after reading through some information at TNI, it sounds as if the 1st wave will be Bat-themed (Batman, Bane, Scarecrow, Azrael, etc.) where the 2nd wave will be Superman themed (Superman, Bizarro, Darkseid, etc.), so maybe this will end up involving the whole DC Universe.  I hope so.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2005, 03:56 PM
I see that Action Figure Insider (Julius Marx (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/sdcc2005/mattel.shtml) has further details on this upcoming line, and explains the focus on Superman and Batman in the initial lineups.  Apparently Mattel doesn't have a "DC-wide" license, but instead can produce Superman, Batman, Justice League Animated, and "The Batman" animated figures.  They are "testing the waters" with the DC Superheroes line (likely to try to keep up with Marvel and the ML line), and if it does well, they will look to acquire the whole DC universe to use for their figures.  You can see some pics of the figures so far at the link above (scroll down), but I think the figures and bases look kind of neat.  I might be interested, especially if the line expands to cover more DC characters.  Should be cheaper than DC Direct, and easier to get a hold of.  I think regardless, I'll pick up the Superman and Bizarro from the first wave, but we'll see once the line gets closer to coming out (Spring 2006 I believe).  Anyone else interested?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Jeff on July 27, 2005, 04:08 PM
Anyone else interested?

I'm always interested in new DC Figures.  I may not be able to afford to "collect 'em all" but I will probably pick up a few (including, of course, Green Lantern once they get to him/them ;)).

I'll check them out, but price point and character selection will ultimately decide whether I pick up this line or not.  :-\
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on October 26, 2005, 09:36 AM
ToyNewsI.com (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=8185) has another update on the "DC Superheroes" line, although not really anything we haven't seen/read before.  It sounds like the first wave should be hitting in Jan of 2006, or around there.  Here's the lineups for the first two waves (centered around Batman and Superman of course):

Wave 1
Batman
Bane
Scarecrow
Killer Croc (new head sculpt)

Wave 2
Superman
Bizarro
Doomsday
Supergirl (white shirt)

Wave 3 is rumored to be another Bat wave, probably including Azrael.  It sounds like the first batches of figs will be Supes/Bats centered, then possibly expanding into the whole DC Universe after that if they do well.

Personally, I'm kind of looking forward to this line.  I always thought DC should have a "Marvel Legends"-type line at retail, and hopefully this will be it.  If this is a line that will eventually encompass all the DC characters in Legends style, it could really be neat.  With my Marvel buying slowing down now that I have many of my favorite characters, I might shift over to these a little bit.  Not a "collect them all" either, but if they are nice, I'd likely pick up quite a few if the funds are there.  A DC line like this is long overdue.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: John C on October 26, 2005, 03:34 PM
I'll most likely buy this line.  I liked the last DC Heroes line that Hasbro put out a few years back.  Too bad it didn't continue.  I'll pass on the Batman from the first wave, since he looks to be the Batman from the Mattel comic line.  I will buy Bane and Scarecrow along with Bizarro and Doomsday.  The Superman and Supergirl are maybes.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on November 30, 2005, 03:59 PM
It might not quite fit into this topic (maybe a stamp collecting one?), but I just read over at Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=3fd294d586da38884f5365124f11f968&threadid=50900) that there will be a series of stamps from the USPS in 2006 featuring DC Comics superheroes.  Apparently, 10 heroes will be represented, along with 10 stamps featuring "covers" from their comics.  Here is the list:

1) Superman - Superman #11, 1941
2) Green Arrow - Green Arrow (Vol. 2) #15, 2001
3) Green Lantern - Green Lantern #4, 1961
4) Wonder Woman - Wonder Woman (second series) #22, 1987
5) Batman - Batman #1, 1940 (with Robin)
6) The Flash - Flash #111, 1960
7) Plastic Man - Plastic Man #4, 1943 (with Woozy Winks)
8) Aquaman - Aquaman (third series) #5, 1989
9) Hawkman - The Brave and The Bold #36, 1961
10) Supergirl - Daring New Adventures of Supergirl #1, 1982

Might have to see if I can pick these up next year.  More details and pictures at the linky above.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on December 2, 2005, 10:07 PM
My, it looks like Mattel is doing something right.

But I'm just positive Batman and Superman will eat up 3/4 of each case and leave the rest at one a piece every other case, like the first wave of the Batman comic line they ruined.

Too bad they can't do something like this for MOTU. I know they paid out the ass for the DC license, but if they did this for MOTU it'd be more money for them since they don't have to pay licensing fees.

End off-topic ramble. >:(
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: John C on December 4, 2005, 09:33 AM
The Mattel Batman stuff lately ends up at Walmarts in those endcap displays, so hopefully that happens and all the figures will be easy to get.  Too bad that didn't happen for MOTU as you said.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on December 19, 2005, 12:01 PM
It looks like BBTS has the lineups for the first five series of the DC Superheroes line.  Keep in mind, from what I understand, Mattel doesn't yet have the rights to the "entire" DC Universe (aside from JLU), so the first year or so will just be Superman/Batman...with hopes of expanding after that.  Here's the lineups:

Wave 1 April 2006
-Batman
-Bane
-Scarecrow
-Killer Croc

Wave 2 April 2006
-Superman
-Bizarro
-Supergirl
-Doomsday

Wave 3 May 2006
-Battle Damage Batman
-Robin
-Mr. Freeze
-Azrael

Wave 4 June 2006
-Batgirl
-Stealth Jumper Batman
- Two Face
- Joker

Wave 5 July 2006
-Battle Damage Superman
-Lex Luthor
-Brainiac
-Superman Mother Box
-Darkseid

Not sure about the dates, as the first Batman wave was reportedly spotted over the weekend at a Wal-Mart in Utah.  We'll see, but this looks to be what is coming this year.  At least the assortments aren't 3 Superman/Batman variants and one villain ;).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: jedipurge on December 21, 2005, 06:22 PM
Saw Bane, Scarecrow, & Croc @ my local Wal-mart yesterday.  These are definately awesome would've gotten them too, but x-mas expenses have been killer.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Hemish on December 26, 2005, 08:29 AM
DC have some cool heroes, but... they also have some of the worst characters ever, Captain Boomerang anyone???? And whats worse is he's getting a figure!?!?!?!?!?!???
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: John C on December 28, 2005, 02:32 PM
This line is packed at two of each figure per case.  Too bad Mattel didn't figure out this ratio with the MOTU line.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on January 3, 2006, 11:07 AM
I saw these at a couple of Targets this past week/weekend, the 1st (Batman) wave.  I had the Batman in our basket, but ended up putting it back.  It isn't all that different from the Zipline one I picked up in the Batman line (although better articulated), and they are charging $10 each for them (and lost the bases we saw originally), so I passed.  I'll likely pick up the Superman related figures when they start hitting the pegs though, but that price is definitely not friendly.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 5, 2006, 04:16 PM
I'm excited about this line. While I usually only read Marvel comics, I do read DC from time to time. I'm not going to be buying all the figures, just ones that don't already have great or better versions (ie not Killer Croc). While I love DC Direct figures, they aren't widely available and I usually have to go to a comic store to get them because major stores like TRU and Wal-Mart don't carry the DC Direct line. This new line seems widely available though.

I'm a little cautious on getting a bunch of these due to the price. Like DC Direct figures, they are too expensive for kids to collect. $10 for a figure and a comic doesn't look like a steal, especially when Marvel Legends are on the next peg for cheaper.  Personally, I like the ML figures better.

I picked up Bane yesterday. Pretty good figure with well articulation IMHO.

I was going to pick up Killer Croc as well, but after looking at his minimal articulation, I passed. I'm just going to try to get the Secret Files version. Its sort of weird that all the other figures in the line have ample articulation, but Killer Croc has hardly any at all. Knee and elbow articulation are a must in todays world.

Are the comics that come with these figures made just for the series, or are they reprints?

BTW, I saw the figures at Target for $9.99 and at Wal-Mart for $8.88.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on January 6, 2006, 11:28 PM
I would have gladly bought into this line if it didn't cost $9-10 a figure. That's just too much for a mass-market line, and they didn't bother to pack in the cool bases they were pictured with.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: GeneralBelIblis on January 27, 2006, 10:07 PM
i just got the batman and its really cool. the articulation is really good. i painted him black with the bat symbol on his chest yellow. the paint scheme he is made with isnt bad or anything, i just wanted a movie type batman.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on February 2, 2006, 11:19 AM
If you visit this linky (http://toykolektorph.proboards38.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dc&thread=1121764985&page=5#113) and scroll down, someone has posted images of the upcoming DC Superheroes figures (previewed by Lee's Action Figure Review I believe).  Included are:

Batman (new/different)
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)
Azrael
Mr. Freeze
Batwoman (Cassandra Kane)
The Joker
Superman (new/different)
Lex Luthor (Super Powers-style suit)
Brainiac (Super Powers styled)
Darkseid
Supergirl

These look pretty good to me actually.  I really wish they weren't quite as expensive, and would fall in the ML price range.  I'm not sure if I can afford to go too nuts with these, depending on where the ML line is headed, but I definitely plan on picking up the Superman characters and maybe Joker as well.  The Superman and Lex Luthor are must haves for me, and the other villains are likely as well.  If Mattel can expand this to the entire DC Universe in 2007, it could really be a nice line.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on February 2, 2006, 01:25 PM
Damn, is that stuff really Mattel product? It almost looks like DC Direct.

Can't wait for Darkseid and Brainiac.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on February 2, 2006, 10:20 PM
Those are pretty nice, but my DC desires are pretty limited.  The Batgirl is nice and I'd pick it up, but I actually like the Unmasked version better and I already have that one. :P
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on February 9, 2006, 04:19 PM
Although not technically the "DC Superheroes" line, I figured it would fit here just the same.  The latest issue of ToyFare magazine has a preview of the Superman Returns toys.  Some of the ones pictures on the inside are pretty craptastic (especially "Clark to Superman"), but the figure pictured on the COVER (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/magazines/toyfare/TF104.jpg) looks pretty good.

(http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/magazines/toyfare/TF104.jpg)

Its called "Hyperposeable Superman", and although I'm not exactly sure what scale it is in...ToyFare makes it appear as if it is in the basic figure line.  Either way, I think that will be the Supes I pick up.  I'd like to get a Luthor as well, but the one shown in ToyFare doesn't look incredibly great although the picture isn't the best.  Hopefully we'll see more at Toy Fair this weekend.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on February 9, 2006, 06:14 PM
I'm waiting for a Lex Luthor from the Alex Ross series, if that's possible.  I love the sculpts he does. 

About the only two figures I can think of that I'm undecided on are Batman and Superman.  I have them both already from the series that included the Zipline Batman but if something better came along, I'd pick it up.  But it's pretty decent and I mostly use them as statues anyway.  Superman is another I'm looking to replace, but that one doesn't do it for me.  Drewlam says the Alex Ross is pretty nice though it looks older.  I'll check it out yet. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on February 14, 2006, 04:07 PM
Not a whole lot new from this line at Toy Fair, although there was pictures of much of what is coming up this year.  You can see much of it (along with JLU) at Action Figure Insider (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/toyfair2006/mattel.shtml).  I think the majority of the figures look pretty great, and I know I definitely plan on picking up that Superman as well as the Lex Luthor.  I might end up getting more of the Superman-related characters, depending on budget.  And, if this line can expand to the whole DC Universe in 2007 as Mattel hopes, I'll definitely be getting a Flash.  Anyways, from what I've read at AFI, it sounds like they are looking at dropping the comic books from upcoming waves to get the prices more in the Marvel Legends range.  Also, Target will be getting a trio of exclusive 2 packs later this year: Superman/Bizarro, Batman/Batgirl, and Superman/Clark Kent.  More info and pics at the linky above if interested.  This might be hitting at about the right time if Marvel Legends dies down after this year, and if this line can expand further in 2007.  For now, just Supes stuff for me, but if we start seeing the Flash and other DC characters, it might be hard to resist picking up a few.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: John C on February 14, 2006, 05:25 PM
I want the Reverse Flash and the Shining Knight.  I also would like to see them release Hal Jordan to the public and a Hawkman would be good to see before the line goes away.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: John C on March 9, 2006, 02:42 PM
Anybody see the Batman Lego sets?  I'm going to have to pick them up.  I'm not sure if they are online only, though. 

http://shop.lego.com/leaf.asp?cn=244&d=7&t=3
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on March 20, 2006, 12:06 PM
Well, some disappointing news out of WWLA, where Mattel guy "Boy Wonder" did confirm that DC has turned them (Mattel) down for getting the "master license" for the DC Superheroes line.  Meaning, only Supes and Bats characters for the line for the foreseeable future (this year and next for sure the way it sounds).  I'm really disappointed with this, as I was hoping that we would see a Marvel Legends style line for the DC universe.  Although Superman and Batman are two of my favorites, I would have really liked to see The Flash, not to mention more of the JLA.  I'll still be picking up most/all of the Superman and related figures, and probably some of the Batman ones as well, but this line had a lot more potential than this.  I don't see how long it can go on with just the big two, but we'll see.  I guess I'll have to check ebay for a good DC Direct Flash to go with them, and then see about others like GL, WW, and Aquaman.

On the positive side, it does sound like the JLU line will continue this year and next for sure (even without the show).  Lots of "bad guys" were mentioned, including Solomon Grundy, Cheetah, and Doomsday.  Its a nice line too, that I enjoy, but a Legends-style DC line would have been pretty sweet.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on March 21, 2006, 03:56 PM
Sounds like this news has been pretty well confirmed at this point, as far as 2006 and 2007 for sure being limited to just Superman and Batman "worlds" in the DC Superheroes (6" scale) line.  Disappointing, to say the least, but hopefully we'll at least get some good figures from these lines.  Aside from what has already been revealed in the first 5 series or so, characters such as Catwoman and the Creeper have been mentioned as well.

Thinking more about this, with this line not being "universe wide" as many had hoped, it really seems like DC really doesn't compete very well with Marvel when it comes to action figures.  I don't know whether it is due to Mattel alone or what, but looking over the comics, tv, and movie lines, it just seems like Marvel/Toy Biz has done a better job.  Now, once the line changes to Hasbro's hands next year, we'll see how that goes.  Although some of Marvel's movie lines do have an overabundance of certain characters, for the most part the lineups have been done very well.  Most figures are well articulated, scaled to each other, and pretty accurate.  There's always some stinkers, but overall I'm pretty happy with what I've seen in the Spidey, F4, and X-Men lines (although I don't really have any of those).  Although I did pick up a Batman and Scarecrow from the Batman Begins line, and plan to grab a Superman and Lex from the Superman Returns line, I don't think that those lines were/will be very well received.  Looking at some of the pics of the Superman Returns line in ToyFare, at KBToys.com, and at ToyNewsI.com, they don't look too spiffy overall.  Now, with this "comic accurate" figure license being limited to Supes/Bats, its obvious that the DC Superheroes line isn't going to compete with Marvel Legends very well either.  I do enjoy the JL/JLU toyline (and show), and they have really offered a lot of characters from there...and it sounds like they will continue to....but that seems to be the lone bright spot for DC in the figure aisle right now.

Anyways, a bit long winded, but I was just thinking about this today.  It seems, at least to me, that Marvel is really dominating this area of the comic market.  If DC wants to compete, they should really allow Mattel the entire license...or Mattel should step it up in areas like movie figures.  I still have hopes that Mattel can get the master license in the future, but that's two years away now at best.  With Legends possibly winding down or switching hands, they had a chance to grab some of that market, but that might not be as strong now...especially going into 2007.  The Supes/Bats characters will only last so long before they have to start doing lots of variants of the big two.  Sorry for the rambling....just a little disappointed in this news for now and it got me thinking about comparisons between the two companies action figure/movie wise.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Darth_Ennis on March 23, 2006, 04:54 PM
Ive mostly been getting the animated JLU stuff. Mostly for customising and so forth. But I may have to break away and get these. Ive been waiting for a battle armor Luthor done D.C. Direct style for years. That Brainiac is no slouch either. Im chomping at the bit to get these guys.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on March 29, 2006, 10:49 AM
I got my first two DC Superheroes figures yesterday, as a preorder I had with BBTS for Superman and Bizarro was delivered.  I really like these figures.  Definitely the best Superman (for the price) that I've seen...nicely sculpted, and pretty well articulated.  I can see some of the complaints I've read online about the hip articulation, and although I haven't seen it happen yet, I can see where it might lead to the figures having troubles standing up "straight" eventually.  Bizarro is quite nice as well, and isn't just a repaint of the Superman figure.  I like them both, and I'm glad to have them.  Its kind of bittersweet since it doesn't sound like we'll see the entire DCU in this form, at least not for awhile.  I'm going to continue to pick up most of the Superman figures and some of the Batman ones as well, as that is what the line is scheduled to consist of.  Overall, pretty nice figures, I'm happy with them.

That said, using the obvious comparison, they aren't really in the same league with Marvel Legends.  They are the closest we've seen, to be sure, but just not quite the same.  Its funny, the packaging is cheaper and more generic, the comics aren't the best choices (and will be dropped starting with Wave 3 from what I've heard), and the sculpts/articulation aren't to the level of ML...but they cost more.  I really would have liked to see a DC line to the level of Marvel Legends, and I think it would do well, but it doesn't look like we'll see that yet (with the licensing issues and all).  Plus, there are a few other areas that they could step it up in to compare with Toy Biz's lines.  Either that, or we've really been spoiled with what Toy Biz has been able to offer with the Legends/Classics lines over the years.  I've read some comments from one of the brand managers at Mattel, wondering how Toy Biz was able to include everything that they do (clamshell packaging, comics, figures, stands/bases, build a figures).  Maybe we've just been spoiled by those lines.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on April 5, 2006, 03:55 PM
Not sure if anyone is really interested in these or not, but I found the first batch of Superman Returns figures at Wal-Mart today.  Basically all different Superman figures.  I just picked up the Clark to Superman figure, since I have read that this is the best of the wave.  I know movie figures often aren't very popular, but I like to get at least a basic figure of my favorite heroes when they are available.  I want to pick up Luthor when he's released, as well as anyone else that might be part of future assortments that aren't just Supes variants.  Not too bad of a figure overall, and it will look nice next to the Batman Begins Batman :).  Price was $6.97 at our Wally.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on April 7, 2006, 02:27 AM
I want that Clark-to-Superman figure, then I'm done with this line. He'll sit here next to the rest of my movie-inspired figures from the 90s Batman movies.

I don't know where else to put this, but I've been looking for this figure forever, and it's a bitch to get on the bay.

(http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/aa/cb/c4_1_b.JPG)

A later version of the Batman & Robin Mr. Freeze. Anybody have one or know of an online store that might? Love and thanks.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Scott on April 23, 2006, 10:24 PM
I saw 4 of the different Superman figures today.  They look absolutely horrible!
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: DSJ™ on April 23, 2006, 10:45 PM
Yeah I saw a couple at Zellers today, pretty lame IMO. Whats with that Heat Vision headset thingy?  ::)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on April 25, 2006, 02:55 AM
I saw the second wave of DC Superheroes at WM tonight. I would have bought a full set, but I was late by a minute and some dork bought both Supergirls.  >:( He wouldn't let me have one either.

Ah well. There'll be more.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on May 3, 2006, 11:02 AM
Much to my surprise and delight the Superman series of these figures showed up at TRU.  I managed to score a Supergirl as well, though the paint scheme and head sculpt were disappointing compared to the pictures from Toyfare.  It will do though and at regular retail made me happy.

I've been seeing the Superman Returns figures as well.  My rant in the ML thread about movie related figures would fit here too - don't make crap to start the line is the short version, sadly I wrote it too late for an impact on that line ::)  I guarantee I won't be buying any of those figures. 

Back to the DC figures though, Brian, you seem to have a couple so I'll ask specifically of you: How is the scale compared to the ML line?  I saw Superman and Bizarro at the store as well, but they seemed smallish to me.  I do have a Superman figure at home, from the BAtman/Superman two pack (zipline Batman era) and that Supes is a little small, not matching up well at all beside Thor from the ML line.  I did compare the Supergirl to the Mystique ML figure at the store and they matched up fairly well in scale, so that was nice.  But I was left with the impression that the male figures were fairly small compared with the ML stuff. 

I'm looking forward to the next wave of Batman figures as well but the Batgirl figure looks like a re-release of the Barbara Gordon version from the "Unmasked" line minus the head with the cowl off.  If it is, then the figure might be worthwhile to pick up anyway as it's a great Batgirl and I could display both the versions at the same time and this line is less expensive than the Unmasked lineup was by a couple of bucks.  There's also a chase version of the Batgirl figure as well that I'd buy if I found it, but I'm not happy with the insertion of chase figures in this line.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on May 3, 2006, 03:43 PM
Brent, I tried to take a few quick pictures showing Superman/Bizarro alongside some other figures.  Hopefully they'll post ok here.  I don't think the scale is too bad, better than much of the DC Direct stuff I've seen anyways.  Bizarro does seem a little shorter, but then again, both he and Superman (and maybe all the DC Superheroes figures so far) have an odd hip articulation that in some cases causes their legs to start to spread apart.  Anyways, here's a couple of pics (sorry for the craptastic quality - older camera), and if you want to see him compared to any ML in specific (that I have), I'll try to get that as well.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/mosnab/SupermanandFriendsResized.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/mosnab/SupermenResized.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/mosnab/SupermanandBatmanResized.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on May 3, 2006, 04:31 PM
Those are great Brian, thanks kindly.  I'd have done it myself, but for the fact the box is buried somewhere among many, many others right now :P

I have a hierarchical scale of figures in my mind that I like to work with.  Your first picture is a pretty good illustration of what I'd like to use for comparison and how I sort of view the figures and whether they are in scale or not. 

Colossus should be the largest figure, and is, though I'd think he should still tower over the others a bit more.  If I'm comparing Doomsday and Superman to Cap and Colossus, I'm happy with the scale.  Batman looks about right as well, but the Spidey and Wolverine are waaaaaaaay too tall for me in that picture.  Wolvie looks in scale in certain respects, but I'd need his legs to be straight for it to be accurate and I think the most recent ML version (ML 12) is pretty good, he's smaller than everyone, as he should be.  I too think of Spiderman as being shorter and somewhat smaller than Cap, Supes, Bats, etc. 

The reason I ask is at some point I'd like to duplicate the cover from some very old, oversized comics I have that pitted the DC Universe versus the Marvel Universe with figures and scale would matter to a certain degree.  I think those figures are ok for what I'd want to accomplish and it's probably more that some of the ML Legends figures are over-large (Thor) than the DC figures being undersized. 

As you also mention, the DC Direct stuff is a tad larger as well, somewhat oversized like some of the ML stuff seems.  Hawkman is a very large figure, for example, but I think I can still make it all work out alright. 

It would be nice though if someone in comics created an accurate, for-reference scale for all the toy companies to use and scale figures properly at.  It really shouldn't be that hard to specify that the difference between certain figures should be the same, regardless of what "line" they come from.  If Cap is 6'2" in reality and Thor is 6'7" in reality, that difference should be consistently scalable in figures (reality being a loose term here).  I know some of the recent Catwoman figures are pretty dramatically different in terms of scale with a half inch difference in height or more.  They are from different DC sublines, but I think they should differ only in paint scheme and the like, but not in height of finished product.  I do realize that sculpting a figure is likely quite a bit more complex than I comprehend, but I still think the standard should exist. 

I'm still trying to find a Batman and Superman that I really am happy with.  I currently have those from the Zipline era and they're pretty good, but I think they could be better.  I'm not too ecstatic about this version of Superman, though it is well done.  Bizarro is tempting as well as a major version and Doomsday wasn't there the other day.  Walmart carried the Batman series that preceded this one, so I may yet luck out there. 

BTW, much of Superman fan?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on May 3, 2006, 04:44 PM
Sorry about not standing Wolvie up straight Brent, brain fart on my part.  I was trying to get some figures of varying sizes in a small group shot, and thought he was one of the smaller ones - but when I pulled him out of the display he was "crouched" like that.  If you need any other pic comparisons, just let me know.

I'm with you on the scale issue.  It doesn't have to be exact to the millimeter for me, but its nice to have things somewhat consistent.  The example you gave is perfect.  I was/am hoping this DC Superheroes line would be the equivalent of the Legends line and they could all be somewhat accurately scaled to one another.  We'll see I guess.  As for these figures, I really do like the Superman figure - although its not perfect.  I don't know if everyone has had this problem, but mine really has the "sliding legs" problem with the hip joint.  However, I've just been using one of the "flying stands" from ML to have him flying all the time so it isn't a big issue.  Still my favorite of the Superman figures overall I guess, as far as a combo of sculpt/artic/scale.

Yeah, I'm a bit of a Superman fan (as is my wife), but not as much as Spidey.  The Spidey shelf is a little more crowded with various incarnations, but I've been trying to keep that in check more lately.  I've always been more of a Marvel guy personally, although some of the DC stuff (Superman, Batman, Flash, JLA) interests me too.  There really is just too much stuff out there to buy nowadays.  Not like the days where "Super Powers" is what you bought if you wanted DC figures, and "Secret Wars" was what you got with Marvel.  Too many different lines, too many temptations :P.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: alexandertrooper on May 23, 2006, 04:19 PM
So I really like these new dc superheroes line but I can't seem to find 3 of the figures.  I'm looking for a Batman, Bazzaro and Doomsday I have the rest so far.  If anyone can help me out that would be great. 

I don't think I'm going to collect the new superman returns toys because like everyone is saying the look like junk.  I just wish they did a better job on them.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on May 31, 2006, 11:57 AM
I know no one is probably too interested in this line, but I noticed yesterday that our WM had expanded to a large 1/2 aisle Superman Returns section, and they had some new figures out.  I found a few of the Lex Luthor figure, so I picked one up.  I wanted a Supes and a Lex, so I think I'm set now.  Unless, by some miracle, they release other characters in the line up (Lois, regular Clark, Jimmy, etc.) - I think that should be that with this line.  They look like the really overdid it with the Superman figures, as expected.  Just thought if anyone wanted to pick up a Luthor, you might want to be on the lookout.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on June 2, 2006, 03:05 AM
My local WM also did that reset, and I managed to find a Lex in there. I picked it up because I didn't think my life would be complete without a Kevin Spacey action figure.

It was the only one, though, proving Mattel hasn't learned a damn thing about villain toys.

I also saw a couple of new Supes variants, Solar Power and Crystal Escape. They looked better than the first two waves, but at $7 a crack, hell no.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on June 2, 2006, 10:09 AM
I noticed that at our store too Ben.  They had a pretty considerable display set up right now (1/2 of a bonus aisle that the ROTS stuff occupied for much of last summer), and I think when I first saw the figs there were 4 Lex Luthors, and probably 100 different Supermen.  I stopped back there yesterday, and all the Luthors were gone of course.  I'm glad to have one, the figure isn't really too bad I didn't think.  On the other side of things, I picked up the "Up, Up, and Away" Superman figure, because I read it had articulated ankles and a better head/neck articulation for "flying poses", but all the artic. points in the shoulders/knees/hips/ankles are tied in to an action feature - making them constantly "spring loaded".  Mattel still doesn't seem to quite get it with their action figure lines, but I'm looking forward to the movie at least :).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on June 2, 2006, 11:17 AM
I noticed a couple of neat things in that display. That Super Sculpt line could really be something neat if applied to the DC Superheroes or, god forbid, MOTU lines.

I almost picked up the Daily Planet sculpt. I thought that would look pretty neat. But at $13, and the fact that I know it'll be on clearance in July, I waited.

I was hoping to find the Lex with that weird Kryptonite armor that's pictured on the back of the Lex figure I have, but I suppose that one will be just like Ducard from the Batman Begins line- impossible to find.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Scott on June 2, 2006, 11:22 AM
I should stop reading this thread because the thought of going out and picking up the Alex Ross JLA figures has crossed my mind more than once in the past week :-\
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on June 2, 2006, 12:08 PM
I know I've been tempted more than once with those Alex Ross JLA figures as well, but with all the spending on Star Wars and Marvel (some DC) stuff this year, I just can't afford them.  They are awful purty though.

I saw this posted the other day, the next wave of the "DC Superheroes" line - a Batman themed assortment.  Probably not real exciting, especially for those who collected the previous Batman comic line, but the figures are all new to me.  I'll likely try to pick up Mr. Freeze, Robin, and maybe that new Batman.  Pics at ToyNewsI.com (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=9517).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on June 2, 2006, 02:55 PM
I should stop reading this thread because the thought of going out and picking up the Alex Ross JLA figures has crossed my mind more than once in the past week :-\

Do it!

They are really, really nice figures.  Less articulation than ML, but still enough.  The sculpts are phenomenal as well.  Even some of the non-Ross stuff is pretty darn good, though I'm still disappointed by Green Arrow, so I'll wait for Series 5 to get another. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: DSJ™ on June 9, 2006, 09:35 PM
Large Superman Returns toy display at the TRU in Times Square NY with actual props & costume. From the Superman Hompage.   8)

SUPERMAN RETURNS SUIT DISPLAY - TOYS R US NYC Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoNDGcsMJP4)

(http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-returns8/toysrus-ny1-tb.JPG) (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-returns8/toysrus-ny1-tb.html)  (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-returns8/toysrus-ny2-tb.JPG) (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-returns8/toysrus-ny2-tb.html) (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-returns8/toysrus-ny3-tb.JPG) (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-returns8/toysrus-ny3-tb.html)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2006, 04:14 PM
I don't know if anyone is interested or not, but our local TRU had the exclusive "Space Suit Kal-El" figure from the Superman Returns line.  It is basically just a repainted Superman figure (without cape) to represent the suit worn in his return - from what I gather.  Also, there are rumors that a "House of El" 2 Pack might be on the way, and is apparently being found in Australia (http://action-figure.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19741) right now.  It contains both Kal-El (Routh) and Jor-El (Brando).  Pics and info at the linky.  Not sure if it will show up here or not.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on June 29, 2006, 10:40 AM
Further info on some TRU Exclusives (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=9780) for the Superman Returns line.  It looks like we have a holo Jor-El figure in August, and then a "House of El" 2 pack coming in October.  Pictures and details at the linky, if interested.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Scott on July 10, 2006, 10:56 AM
Alls I know is that the Superman toys seem to be gaining Hulk/Spidey2/FF/Batman like pegwarmer status.  Lots of stuff is already being clearanced at Target

When will these companies learn?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on July 10, 2006, 11:26 AM
I saw much (actually, everything except for the basic figures I think) of the Superman Returns merch. on the first clearance run at our Targets this weekend.  I agree Scott, I don't know when these companies will learn.  I can see having lines to support these big superhero movies, but they really tend to go way overboard with things.  20 different versions of the same character, too many lines/junk, etc.  It probably won't change, but its too bad something like this happens to all of these lines.  ToyBiz has done a little better than Mattel, at least offering some decent figures in their lines overall.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Kit on July 19, 2006, 01:20 AM
As much as I would like to splurge on these Superman toys like I do on toybiz/kenner- Batman/Batman returns toys, I can't find myself doing so due to the lack of quality of these toys.  The only figures I bought are:

Kryptonite smash Superman: Probably the best figure out of the whole line.   
                                               Plus it looks nice in the packaging as well.
Missile launching Lex Luthor:  Superman needs someone to fight.
Space suit Kal-el:  Nice nostalgic Jor-el look.  Plus it's an exclusive.

I wish this line could of been more like the "Super Powers" line of the 80's or like the toybiz/kenner- Batman/Batman returns toyline.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on July 19, 2006, 10:03 AM
Not sure if anyone is interested in this line or not, but a couple of pictures have popped up online of upcoming Justice League Unlimited assortments (3 packs and singles).  I had resigned myself that I'd be stopping with this line, but some of these look tempting.  Although the figures are fairly basic, I am impressed with the variety of characters this line has seen.

3 Packs
(http://www.billstoysandgames.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/JLU3PackPicture.jpg)

Singles
(http://www.billstoysandgames.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/JLUSinglesPicture.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on July 19, 2006, 01:41 PM
It's a cool and diverse line, no doubt about it.  But the scale issue again is a problem for me.  I like the original Marvel Legends line, though would have preferred a 3.75" scale.  So matching the ML stuff with DC Direct, Mattel, Infinity Crisis and the like works.  I'm also not very enamored of the "cartoony" look of these little guys. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on July 20, 2006, 09:35 AM
TNI.com (http://afigures.com/g/?mode=album&album=2006_SDCC%2FMattel) has a look at some of the upcoming DC Superheroes figures for 2007.  There are pics of Catwoman, Steel, Supergirl (variant), Parasite, and Mongul.  They look pretty nice.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Jeff on July 20, 2006, 01:53 PM
Not sure if anyone is interested in this line or not, but a couple of pictures have popped up online of upcoming Justice League Unlimited assortments (3 packs and singles).  I had resigned myself that I'd be stopping with this line, but some of these look tempting.  Although the figures are fairly basic, I am impressed with the variety of characters this line has seen.

Oh, yeah.. definitely grabbing these two:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/photos/greenlantern.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/photos/sinestro.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on July 31, 2006, 02:20 PM
Just a side note, a little off topic, but while stopping by WM this weekend checking out the SW aisle I just happened to note the "bonus aisle" that is still filled with Superman Returns stuff.  I know that most to all superhero movie lines seem to glut up, but I don't see how WM is ever going to unload all those Supermen on the pegs - not to mention the non-action figure type stuff.  I don't notice the problem as much at other retailers.  Target in particular always had a modest section, and after the reset they still do - although they clearanced out a lot of the bonus stuff, sticking with the action figures and some role play type stuff.  Anyways, just an observation, but will companies ever quite get it right with these movie lines?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on July 31, 2006, 02:44 PM
  Anyways, just an observation, but will companies ever quite get it right with these movie lines?

No, they won't. 

At the same time though I think we grossly underestimate the sales they generate.  I believe they seriously sell a lot more product than any established lines do, generating a lot of $$ for the retailers.  On the bright side, at least there are no bump 'n' go things or hulk hands or thing feet this time around. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on July 31, 2006, 03:52 PM
That's a good point Brent.  I think we underestimate the money that comes in from things like this too.  There always seems like a wall of merchandise is available, so it seems like its all sitting - but it probably does do pretty well.  I know for movies like Spider-Man 2, I saw lot sof that stuff selling - but there was still plenty of stuff on the pegs too (just not much besides Spideys).  You always read stuff that says those Hulk hands sold like gangbusters too, but they were everywhere around here.  So, I guess you never know.  There just seems to be a lot of stuff out there - particularly at Wal-Mart - but then again those seem to be the lines they support the most as far as action figures go.  They do big "get their own aisle" pushes with the summer blockbusters and then a four peg section for lines like Star Wars (this year) :).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on July 31, 2006, 04:51 PM
Our Walmarts up here have become more subdued due to lessons from the past it would seem.  But having been in Fargo this summer there is indeed an entire aisle dedicated to Superman and Pirates.  Even Star Wars didn't get that kind of push and I haven't seen that much dedicated to Star Wars since 1995-1997. 

I think sales are great, but I do think your original point still holds - so much will hit clearance pricing.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on August 7, 2006, 10:42 AM
Again, maybe not something a lot people are interested in, but while shopping at Target yesterday I noticed they were carrying Superman Returns figure and glass sets (similar to the SW sets).  Priced about the same ($12.74 at our store I believe), and there looked to be three different sets.  I picked one up, just because I'm a sucker for glasses like that, but left the other two.  I hadn't heard about these prior to seeing them, possibly a Target exclusive?  If anyone likes collecting glasses, I just thought I would pass it along.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: alexandertrooper on August 10, 2006, 11:44 AM
well so far I have yet to find a batman from wave 1 or a doomsday from wave to and also teddy bear bane.  Has anyone seen wave 3 out yet.  I saw some on ebay from the uk but nothing here.  If anyone could help me out to finish these set I'll owe you big time.  Also when do those new jlau come out they do look really good.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on August 16, 2006, 09:04 AM
I noticed that Wave 3 of the "DC Superheroes" line has hit our local WM, so those must be trickling out as well now.  This wave contains a new Batman, Robin (repainted from previous Mattel Batman line), Mr. Freeze, and Azrael.  I picked up the new Batman, haven't decided on Freeze or Robin.  No interest in Azrael really.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on August 16, 2006, 05:30 PM
Did you see a Batgirl in the collection Brian?  I was under the impression there's not one, but two versions in the new assortment.  I think Mattel dropped the ball quite badly on this line given the first assortment was out more than eight months ago.  I suspect they were trying to ride the summer wave with the Superman movie and assortment 2, but they let it go a very long time. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on August 17, 2006, 09:05 AM
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Did you see a Batgirl in the collection Brian?  I was under the impression there's not one, but two versions in the new assortment.

Actually, I think that Batgirl has gotten bumped to one of the waves in 2007, although I've read rumors of a Target exclusive two pack this year as well (Batman/Batgirl - I'll double check on that if I can).  The wave that is hitting stores here consists of the new Batman, Robin (repacked), Mr. Freeze (retooled), and Azrael.  That's all that has shown on the cardback as well.  Of course, our WM only has Batman and Robin last time I was there.

I agree with you, there sure was a long wait between waves with this line.  I guess it works out fine though, since I had enough to spend money on this summer anyways.  I kind of just pick and choose with this line for now, but the figures I do have aren't too bad at all.  Its really too bad that Mattel doesn't have the entire DC license though, so we could get figures like Flash, GL, and the other Justice Leaguers.  The Batman from this series is pretty nice though.

EDIT: Ok, just picked up this list from the Action Figure Insider forums (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2959&sid=9dc7586ff8fc5b8a49ab0a8d16c85896).  It looks like Batgirl might be a part of the exclusive two packs later this year, otherwise in 2007.  Here's the checklist they have:

Series 1 – Batman (December 2005)
__Batman (with blue or grey knee pins) (comic Batman line Dx. Bat Signal Batman retool, without signal)
__Bane (comic Batman line repack, with retooled hands)
__Scarecrow (comic Batman line repack)
__Killer Croc (comic Batman line retool with completely new head)
__CHASE: Bane with Osito

Series 2 – Superman (April 2006)
__Superman
__Supergirl (Linda Danvers)
__Doomsday
__Bizarro
__CHASE: Bizarro (with eye pupils)

Series 3 – Batman (Late July 2006)
All come with dioramas, start of S3 (Select Sculpt Series) logo on packaging
__Batman
__Robin (comic Batman line redeco)
__Azrael
__Mr. Freeze (comic Batman line retool with more articulation and new paint job)
__CHASE: Unknown (Maybe a Battle Damaged Batman?)
__CHASE 2: Unknown

Target Exclusive 2-Packs (August 2006)
__Superman (Series 2 repack) Vs. Bizarro (Series 2 repack)

Target Exclusive 2-Packs (August 2006?)
__Superman (Series 2 repack?) and Clark Kent
__Batman (Series 3 repack?) and Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)

Series 4 – Superman (October 2006?)
__Battle Damaged Superman(presumably Series 2 Superman repaint or retool)
__Lex Luthor
__Brainiac
__Darkseid
__CHASE: Dark Superman (was originally Series 2.5)
__CHASE 2: Dark Supergirl (was originally Series 2.5)
Could be that Dark variants have replaced Battle Damaged Superman and this is the start of 5 figure waves (originally said to be starting in 2007)

DC Super Heroes Checklist 2007

Series 5 - Superman (2007)
__Unknown Superman Variant
__Supergirl (Kara Zor-El)
__Steel (John Henry Irons)
__Parasite
__Mongul

Series 6 - Batman (2007)
__Unknown Batman Variant
__Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)
__Two-Face
__Catwoman
__Joker (comic Batman line repaint with new accessories)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on August 17, 2006, 10:43 AM
Hmm.

Thanks for posting that.  I'm only going by what was reported in back issues of Toyfare, but Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) was supposed to be in this series (wave 3) and the chase figure was also Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) so there were to be two of them.  But by your list one of them has moved down to Series 6 (Cain) so maybe the Barbara Gordon Batgirl is now a chase figure?  Or maybe both are chase figures for now and they're re-releasing them later?  I don't know, it's all become confusing for apparently no reason. 

From what I recall, the Barbara Gordon version looked an awful lot like the 'Unmasked' version without the alternate head, so it's not really all that new or pressing a need, but I wanted to get one for my daughter.  The Cassandra Cain version was entirely new though and I'm surprised it's gone from series 3 chase to series 6 regular figure. 

Those Target exclusive two packs are interesting though.  I'm still not satisfied with the Superman I have and I'm unsure about the series 2 stuff, but if I get a Kent with it, I'm in. 

Also interested to see what they do in series 4 with Luthor, Darkseid and Brainiac.  I think I have all of those on order from the Alex Ross stuff, so they'll be interesting to see if they are classic versions, something that would please me.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on August 18, 2006, 09:19 AM
ToyNewsI (http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=10&itemid=10082) now has pics up of the upcoming Batman/Batgirl 2 pack (Target Exclusive).  You can view them at the link.  So, it looks like this is indeed on the way - and it is the Barbara Gordon Batgirl.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on August 18, 2006, 11:52 AM
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Also interested to see what they do in series 4 with Luthor, Darkseid and Brainiac.  I think I have all of those on order from the Alex Ross stuff, so they'll be interesting to see if they are classic versions, something that would please me.

Here's a page with some pics of Luthor, Darkseid, and some of the other DC Superheroes figures.  I don't think there's a picture of Brainiac, but he's on the way as well from what I understand.  I thought I remembered it being the more roboty (think Super Powers style) version.  Anyways, here's the linky (http://toyfair06.asmzine.com/mattel/mattel-dc/).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2006, 05:24 PM
Ah yes, I remember those pictures now and I remain as unimpressed as I was then.  At least for Luthor, too cartoony.  And I still have the Mr. Freeze (chase version) from the previous Mattel run, so no need there.  Darkseid perhaps though. 

With respect to Batgirl in the two pack -  :-\  Undecided.  Not liking the Batman at all in it, his lats are really odd looking. 

Last note to say I didn't realize there was a chase Bizarro :o  There are tons of that wave around here now, so I have to go and look at all of them again for pupils. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: alexandertrooper on August 24, 2006, 04:42 PM
still no sign of series 3 or the last two figures I need from the first two sets.  I really love this line but its odd that there not up in canada.  The first 2 lines did really well.  Also I have yet to see x-men wave 2 as well. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on August 31, 2006, 03:27 PM
Just looking around this afternoon, and it looks like Legions of Gotham (http://legionsofgotham.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=1156353309) has some pics of DC Superheroes Series 4 (Superman/Lex Luthor/Brainiac/Darkseid), as well as the upcoming 2 packs.  Pics at the linky.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on August 31, 2006, 10:20 PM


Series 3 – Batman (Late July 2006)
All come with dioramas, start of S3 (Select Sculpt Series) logo on packaging
__Batman
__Robin (comic Batman line redeco)
__Azrael
__Mr. Freeze (comic Batman line retool with more articulation and new paint job)
__CHASE: Unknown (Maybe a Battle Damaged Batman?)
__CHASE 2: Unknown


Well, I'll be darned if I know what the chase figures are for this series.  It showed up at TRU today locally and I picked up an Azrael (was I the only one to enjoy that story arc?).  The Robin is nice too, a good repaint with a little less bright colors.  Batman was very, very abundant and someone had already picked up the freeze.  Hard to say if they put out one case or two though. 

We seem to get tons of these in at stores, so hopefully I'll run across those chase figures at some point.  I'm just happy another series has come in because we've seen a ton of Superman from series 2, tons of Supergirl on the pegs and Bizarro too. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: alexandertrooper on September 4, 2006, 09:15 PM
well I found wave 3 batman and azreal but the rest were gone.  Are robin and mr.freeze hard to come by?  Still have yet to see a doomsday or a batman from wave 1 though.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on September 5, 2006, 09:26 AM
I saw the entire wave this weekend at Wal-Mart, and picked up the only Freeze they had.  I saw a couple Azraels as well, but normally I've only seen Batman and Robin.  It seems like Freeze and Azrael are the tougher finds from what I've read though.  I will say that the $9.88 pricetag on these stings a little bit.  You get so much more with the Marvel figures it seems, although I guess we'll see where the pricing goes on these once Hasbro takes over the line.  I'm hoping that they stay more in their current $7ish range.  $10 per figure starts getting a little steep for me, especially when its not my "primary" focus.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on September 22, 2006, 10:57 PM
Found the Superman Returns House of El two-pack at TRU tonight. $19.99, far too much for what you get, even if one of them is Marlon ******' Brando.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Biffette on September 24, 2006, 08:42 PM
Does anyone think that the cost for licensing Marlon Brando's likeness is what made the price so high for this? 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on September 25, 2006, 01:19 AM
No, it's just Mattel's regular exclusive gouging going on. The Batman Begins and Superman Returns TRU exclusives were $10 a crack, and since Mattel figures that since you're getting two exclusive figures, the price should be $20. Typical dumb Mattel logic.  :)

Oh, I heard that DCSH wave 4 is showing up, and early case pack reports indicate that it's something like 4x Superman, 2x Lex Luthor, and 1x each of Darksied and Brainiac. And all this time, I thought they'd finally learned NOT to pack a case like that.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on September 25, 2006, 09:16 AM
I actually saw that Superman Returns 2 pack at our local TRU as well.  I was half tempted to get it, but just couldn't pay $20 for it.  It would be kind of neat to have, but its not worth that much to me to have it.  I've read reports of the latest DC Superheroes wave showing up as well, but that case pack does stink.  From the pics I've seen, the figures look pretty nice though, so I'm looking forward to (hopefully) finding them.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on September 25, 2006, 10:42 AM
Interesting the next wave is already showing up, wave 3 didn't seem to have near the shelf life that series 1 and 2 did.  A little unnerving in that sense but I have the figure I wanted from series 3 (Azrael) anyway.  I did see the Mr. Freeze figure last week as well, just a repaint from the DC release of 2004 I think. 

Anyone ever find out what the chase figures were for series 3?  I've not seen them pop up on ebay, so I'm wondering if they really exist. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on October 3, 2006, 09:53 AM
Stopped by WM this morning for a few groceries and found the latest wave of DC Superheroes figures.  I picked up Luthor, Darkseid, and Brainiac.  I haven't opened them yet, but they all look pretty nicely done.  I have to admit though, the $9.88 pricepoint on these stings just a little bit.  Granted, maybe Hasbro will have Marvel Legends up near that price next year (hopefully not), but right now they just don't seem near the value that the Marvel figures are.  I saw 4x Superman (repacked from the Batman line 2 pack), 2x Brainiac, and 1 each of Darkseid and Luthor.  They are packed with the same comics from the previous Superman wave, so they comics have nothing to do with the figures themselves.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on October 4, 2006, 01:32 PM
After a blip with the third series showing up, we've completely regressed up here ???  Series 1 is back on the pegs for no logical reason.  Most odd.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: drewlam on October 6, 2006, 03:49 PM
I've had no interest in these figures.  But the Luthor, Braniac and Darkseid and very intersting to me.  I have doubts I'll ever see them here though.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on October 30, 2006, 10:53 AM
I'm just curious, how many people here are interested in and/or collecting this line?  I have bought a handful of figures so far, and do like them, but I'm getting to the point where I really need to cut back on collecting, and these might be the things to go.  At $10 each, and with Star Wars and Marvel stuff taking a priority, I'm thinking I might have to either cut back considerably on these, or altogether.  Has the price and/or priority kept anyone else away from this line?  I'd like to get more of the Batman characters/villains in the future, but we'll have to see how the budget shakes out.  Its time to cut back on things.  Anyways - is anyone collecting this line?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on October 30, 2006, 11:44 AM
I'd buy them, but the only ones on pegs here is series 1 and the Superman/Bizarro two-pack. Series 2 came and went, and series 3 and 4 haven't arrived, much like the Batman/Batgirl two-pack.

This line is so like MOTU anymore that I'd be better off just forgetting about it.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on October 30, 2006, 03:42 PM
I still like the line, but I've always been pretty selective in it, buying only a figure here and there (as in only Supergirl and Azrael so far).  I was planning on getting the Batgirl figures and maybe another Batman figure, but as Ben said, it's so hit and miss.  We saw series 3 very, very briefly, maybe 2-3 boxes between two TRUs and then reverted right back to Series 1/2.   ???  If I see them, I'll buy what I like.  If the line goes belly up, so be it, the Alex Ross stuff fits the bill just as well.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on October 31, 2006, 04:11 AM
I only want Azrael from series 3, but I suppose I could do without. I would like the Batman/Batgirl two-pack, and I was checking ebay for one earlier. Holy crow, you'd think they were made of gold or something.

I think I'm going to preorder a set of series 4, since I'd buy 3/4 of that series if I found them at retail. I can just toss the Superman in a Toys for Tots bin to be rid of it.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 1, 2006, 10:27 PM
Anyone know if the batman figure from series 3 is still in stores? And if not, any idea where I could buy one (for a reasonable price)?

Can't wait for Catwoman and Supergirl from the Steel series!

Also, does anyone know if there's any difference between the Superman from wave 4 and the Superman from wave  2? Which one is a better figure?

Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 2, 2006, 10:13 AM
Man, you are falling hard.  LOL.

Series 3 has only sort of hit.  This stuff has been weird, both north and south of the border.  My guess is you can still find series 3 in stores, or will again soon.  I know it shipped and showed up here in Canada first but now they're shipping series 1 and 2 again ???  So my guess is they'll start in again on 3 shortly and go for a while. 

Can't say about series 4 versus series 2 for Supes.  I didn't really like the series 2 version and passed on it every time I've seen it.  I think Brian has one though and likes it, but he's got this weird Superman bias :P  Seems like Brian has seen series 4 as well. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on November 2, 2006, 10:27 AM
Series 3 hit briefly here, and when it was here it seemed like that Batman was the one that was left behind.  I personally like that Bats, but I've seen opinions go both ways on that.  If for some reason you can't find his individual figure, he's supposed to be repacked in a Target 2 pack with Batgirl (which from what I have read has been tough to find so far).  As far as the Superman 2 vs 4, the Series 2 one is an all new sculpt that I like.  It does have a few faults (the wide leg stance/hip articulation being the most common complaint), but its probably the best one that is out.  The one in Series 4 is just a repack of the Superman from the Batman comic line (a 2 pack).  Not terrible, but nothing great.  You shouldn't have any trouble finding it though, from what I've seen.

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I think Brian has one though and likes it, but he's got this weird Superman bias   Seems like Brian has seen series 4 as well.

 :D The Superman bias comes from my wife actually, who thinks Superman is "the best" superhero.  I've always liked Superman fine, but have been a Spidey fan first and foremost my entire life.  As a kid, it was Spidey, then Batman, but overall I was more of a Marvel person (and still am).  DC does have some cool heroes though (Flash and Green Arrow are a couple of my favorites), its too bad that Mattel isn't able to have the entire license.  That might hurt this line in the long run, unless things change.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 2, 2006, 11:39 AM
Man, you are falling hard.  LOL.

Seriously!  ;D
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 2, 2006, 12:33 PM

 :D The Superman bias comes from my wife actually, who thinks Superman is "the best" superhero. 

Then you're a wise man.  My wife likes Wookies, so I keep them around. 

Interesting to hear that Series4 Supes is a repack of the Superman figure I already have from that two pack.  I agree that it's ok and it was my Superman of choice until I picked up the Ross version with the heat vision eyes or whatever that one is. I'll post a pic of it later tonight.  It was a retailer exclusive apparently and my comic guy parted with his. 

I liked the Batman from Series 3 as well, it looked nice the few times I saw it.  I think my current Batman is still the Zipline version or one like it.  I think the two pack Batman with Superman was slightly different and I have one of those; my daughter pilfered one of them, but I can't remember which. 

I do wish the various DC lines would add a bit more articulation for the figures but maybe not to the ML extreme.  I find a lot of the sculpts in the DC lines (Alex Ross in particular) to be really nice statues so you can't do as much with them (fist raised, fist lowered), but in many respects they look better than the ML counterparts because they aren't so broken up.  Female sculpts from DC are significantly better than the Marvel versions, IMO.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 2, 2006, 12:39 PM
So the best version of Supes for me to buy (that won't break the bank) is the Mattel DC Superman from wave 2?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 2, 2006, 11:48 PM
Ok, we couldn't find the Superman around here before my daughter went to sleep.  She was willing to stay up and look, but I've a funny feeling she'd have looked for an hour or two and not found it.  Maybe tomorrow.  This is the Superman I have that's the Justice League Series 1 Variant.  He looks menacing in spite of the crappy picture:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010958-1.jpg)

The biggest problem I find with DC stuff is the various lines tend to relate somewhat poorly to each other in terms of scale. If you're only looking for select figures that fall into the Batman/Superman category and their friends and foes, DC Superheroes isn't too bad.  But if you're trying to mix a bit, take a look at this picture to see the variability amongst the scales :o

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010957-1.jpg)


Hawkman, Green Arrow and Zatanna are all from the Identity Crisis Series.

The Batgirl and Joker figure are from the Unmasked series which is really well done.

Wonderwoman and Thrillkiller Batgirl are from the Elseworlds line.

The first (tiny) Catwoman is from the Long Halloween series and the second larger Catwoman is from a series I don't remember the name of, but I wasn't passing on that figure (pun intended).  Bane is from the same series as Catwoman. 

Supergirl is from DC superheroes and I put Kitty Pride in for reference of size.  So it's a good matchup between DC SH and ML by the looks of things, but DC's various lines are all over the map.  I thought the Bane from DC SH was undersized though, so I'm a big fan of this version. 


Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 2, 2006, 11:55 PM
Wow! They really are all over the place! That WW is huge. I'm hopiing the DC:SH line does well, because I'd love to get the main JLA characters in the same scale as ML figures. Even though I'd probably never display them together, it would be fun to take some shots of the two teams duking it out.

That Supes figure really is excellent though. Is it completely out of scale with the other figures?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 3, 2006, 12:08 AM
No, Superman is actually good for scale to me. 

Each line is done in scale to the other figures in the line, so all the Alex Ross Justice League figures are in scale and I've been collecting them selectively since series one.  The problem with JL stuff is Ross' interpretation isn't always what I want to see, no matter how popular it is.  The regular Superman is crap, IMO and so is Flash from series one.  The latter burns me because I like Flash and don't have a single figure even remotely in scale to these. 

So that Superman is in scale to the Hawkman, Green Arrow and Zatanna from the picture above.  I believe it to be bigger than the DC SH line here, but if we can find my daughter's Superman, I'll open this and do a side by side shot.  I'll also redo the group shot and take out the outliers - both versions of Catwoman, Wonder Woman and the Thrillkiller Batgirl.  It'll look considerably better I think.  As I said above, I think of Bane as being huge so I think even oversized like that his scale is fine relative to the Justice League stuff. 

BTW, just looking at the DC SH stuff, it's better articulated than the other DC stuff for the most part: Supergirl is articulate at the ankles, knees, hips (minor movement), 'waist' (it's higher), shoulders, elbow and neck.  It's a nice compromise between standard DC stuff and ML.  I do think the new Supergirl looks better though, at least in pictures.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 3, 2006, 01:21 AM
You're right, Bane looks great at that size. If he was smaller, he wouldn't look very imposing.

The upcoming Supergirl looks great, so I'll hold off until that's in stores. It is a bummer that there's no good Flash figure available. He's a cool character (as long as he's not running around with Kid Flash), and it would be great to have him in the red suit.

I'm really hoping for a decent Wonder Woman. All the figures I've seen of her are either in the non-traditional outfit, or completely mannish. I know she's an amazon and all, but Linda Carter and Cartoon Network both manage to make her look appealing, I would hope either DCD or Mattel would do the same.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on November 3, 2006, 09:57 AM
Thanks for posting that pic Brent.  The DC Direct lines really are all over the place with scale.  I had read that before, but that picture illustrates it well.  I was half tempted to pick up the Alex Ross figures as well, but held off because some didn't look quite right to me (like you mentioned) and the price sometimes keeps me away from the DC Direct stuff as well.  Out of curiosity, how does the scale on that line of figures compare to DC Superheroes/Marvel Legends.  There is a Green Arrow (Alex Ross) figure coming out (look like Feb 07), and I'd kind of like to have a nice GA figure if it fit in scale wise somewhat.  Maybe there is a better option than that one though, we'll have to see.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 6, 2006, 11:57 AM
Has anyone had any luck finding the Batman and Batgirl 2-pack? I'm holding off buying a series 3 Batman because this set is so damn cool. I heard this is still shipping, but is there a DCPI number or anything?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on November 6, 2006, 11:59 AM
I think its still shipping, and hasn't even been found in a lot of places yet (I know all we have around here is Superman/Bizarro).  So hopefully there will still be more on the way.  I don't know about a DCPI number, but someone else might have a better idea.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 6, 2006, 01:31 PM
Hmmm...well hopefully it will be at least as plentiful as the snowspeeder, which was pretty easy to find. I really want to get this set!!!
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 6, 2006, 03:31 PM
Out of curiosity, how does the scale on that line of figures compare to DC Superheroes/Marvel Legends.  There is a Green Arrow (Alex Ross) figure coming out (look like Feb 07), and I'd kind of like to have a nice GA figure if it fit in scale wise somewhat.  Maybe there is a better option than that one though, we'll have to see.

Is there any particular figure you'd like to see a comparison between Brian?  I have most of the Legends so I could pair up the GA figure I have there with them.  I can pop out some of the earlier Ross figures from the same series for a comparison so you can get a good idea.  I had originally planned on getting only a single GA figure, but I'm a bit disappointed in that one because of a lack of ability to hold the bow or arrows :-\  It's a really nice sculpt, but you can't do much with it really.  Kind of pales beside Hawkeye really. 

We found the other Superman figure, so I can get that picture up beside the Ross Superman and with the Supergirl for size comparisons as well also. 

Another case of Series 3 showed up at TRU again locally and the Batman from that series is pretty nice, but seems undersized.  Walmart is carrying them too, but has only had series 1 in stock ever.  I'm hoping they leap to series 4 or the twopacks in time for Christmas. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 8, 2006, 08:06 PM
Uh, Houston, we have a problem.  The issue here seems to be to Ross or not to Ross.  The DC superheroes figures seem to be a tad small, relative the the Ross versions and the Marvel Legends as well. 

I used the Kingpin figure from Marvel Legends because he is a relatively large character, as I think he should be, but I'd expect Superman to be roughly the same size:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010974.jpg)

Maybe not :-\  I think the scale between the Ross Superman variant and the Kingpin is ok though. 

The scale within the DC SH line seems ok too.  Brian, is that the series 2 Superman?  This is the one I pulled from a Mattel two pack that had a Batman (color variation of the zipline version).  It makes me think I'll be needing a new Batman to go with the larger Ross figures :-\

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010975.jpg)

And below there is a definite discrepancy between the DC and Ross series' of figures.  The sculpting is nice in both though I prefer a meaner, more PO'd Supes myself. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010976.jpg)

Brian, I think if you're looking to display a Green Arrow with your Marvel Legends stuff, you'll be happy with the size of the Ross version that's coming out (or the older GA from Identity Crisis).  I couldn't find Hawkeye, but I think they're roughly the same size.  If you're looking to display it with the DC Superheroes stuff, there's going to be an issue, unless GA was hanging out with Giant Man in the Marvel Universe and something was slipped into his cocktail :-\

I think the DC Direct Infinite Crisis series 2 Superman has some promise, it's supposed to be about 6.5" tall, so more in line with the Ross version I think:
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/wizarduniverse_1922_53866399)

I'm ordering the Batman and Wonderwoman from this series as well.

(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/wizarduniverse_1922_53698237)


(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/wizarduniverse_1922_53917717)

Oh and btw, like Brian I'm much more of a Marvel guy as well, but I'm just filling out the DC side with some neat stuff.  I tend to think the ML stuff is going to suffer under Hasbro's guidance, as evidenced by some of the more recent pictures so that spending should slow, hopefully.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on November 9, 2006, 09:28 AM
Thanks for the pics Brent, I really appreciate it.  That Supes is from the Mattel 2 pack (I have that one as well), and is the one that is currently shipping in Series 4 of DC Superheroes (with Lex, Brainiac, and Darkseid).  Thanks for the advice with the Ross figs.  I almost started collecting those from the beginning, thinking it would be neat to set up a Justice League with those, but price kept me away.  I'm hoping to pick up Green Arrow, and maybe eventually try to get Batman, Flash, and possibly Superman as well.  We'll see.

I'm kind of in the same boat as you Brent.  I'm definitely more of a Marvel guy, but I like to have a few DC things here and there as well.  And, as much as I like the Marvel Legends line, I think I'd be ok with fizzling out there as well.  I'm just at the point where I have more characters than I probably would have imagined from that line, and I'd be ok if things started wrapping up a bit.  I mean, I could always just stop, but that's of course easier said than done when you see the pics or the figures at retail :).  Plus, like you mentioned, the recent pictures might be indicating a bit of a change in the ML line once Hasbro takes over.  We'll see if that holds up.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 9, 2006, 11:17 AM
I'm pretty much the same as you guys. I'm more into Marvel, but I like the key players in the DC universe (i.e. the Justice League and their main villains...which I guess includes the Batman villains). Those DCD figures are cool, but I'm looking for more ML style DC figures, so I'm going to ride it out and see how DC:SH does with releasing other characters. So far, I'm happy with what I've seen.

Brent, if you get a chance, can you take a pic with Supes and one of the characters that would be around the same size (i.e. Colossus, Capt. America, etc.)?
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 9, 2006, 01:11 PM
I had originally planned on getting only a single GA figure, but I'm a bit disappointed in that one because of a lack of ability to hold the bow or arrows :-\  It's a really nice sculpt, but you can't do much with it really.  Kind of pales beside Hawkeye really. 

Or does it?  Oops.  I've been so busy packing things up that I never really looked at Hawkeye or Green Arrow side by side.  First, GA will hold his bow, but not an arrow, so grant a point to Hawkeye.  But pulling it out reminds me that the loose joints on ML can be annoying and the figure is remarkably small.  I'll get more into it later, but ML isn't without it's scale issues as well.  I'm also noticing a dramatic difference in accessories.  DC Direct stuff is pretty sparse, but when it is present, it's a very hard, stiff plastic whereas ML is quite pliable. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010978-1.jpg)

Incidentally, I threw in the Ross version of Green Lantern, in case Jeff is being forced to follow along at home.  It's a great figure, but I think a bit larger than the GL series of GL figures. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010977.jpg)

Brent, if you get a chance, can you take a pic with Supes and one of the characters that would be around the same size (i.e. Colossus, Capt. America, etc.)?

LOL, you have no idea what you were asking, I really had to dig these boxes out of the bottom of the pile.  The figures, en masse, are so heavy I had to put them at the bottom of the pile of other figures.  Either way, I dug them out.  I apologize for the picture quality btw, I know it's poorly lit, but the computer room doesn't lend itself well with the lighting in here.  I find the flash washes out the image worse than the crapppy yellow texture of this lighting, so it's a compromise. 

Alright, to start off, I stumbled across the Batman that came with the Superman from the twopack and the scale of those, with Supergirl, is really nice.  I think the Mattel stuff (DC Superheroes) is pretty nice, but I'm also pretty sure they have only the license for Batman and Superman so they can't do the other JL figures at all.  Ever. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010979.jpg)


So those look just fine together to me.  But you asked for Colossus or Cap.  Well, how about both?  First Colossus and I left the Mattel Batman in there for sake of comparison:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010980-1.jpg)

I guess it depends on what you think the size of Superman relative to Colossus should be, but the Ross version (btw, there is a non-variant version that's fairly inexpensive from series 1 if you're leaning that way; the variant tends to sell for about $30 USD).  I don't think the DC versions match up too well personally.

As for Cap, well, there's at least five versions of Cap that I know of from ML: Series 1; Series 8; Series 8 variant; two pack version; two pack version unmasked.  I only own two of those and if Scott's reading, maybe he can tell us if the Series 8 version is larger than the others.  Below is the Series 1 version (on the right) and the unmasked version that came with Strucker (on the left):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010982.jpg)

I think of Superman being taller than Cap, but that much?  I'm not sure.  If indeed series 8 Cap is larger, it might be a better pairing.  And speaking of that difference, since I've been plowing through these figures lately, I'm noticing that ML isn't quite as perfectly in scale as it maybe should be, considering it's only a single line as opposed to multiple DC line.  The discrepancy isn't as bad as between the two Catwomen in one of the initial pictures I posted, but it's still notable:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P1010984.jpg)

The Thor on the left is from series 1 (I think, it's the first release anyway) and it's great.  It's also larger and IMO a better sculpt than the one from the Giant Man series.  It's just a meaner, more godly looking figure.  If I didn't have the first, I'd be ok with the second though. 

Anyhoo, again my apologies for the yellowish, blurry picture quality.  I'd like to spend the time to get better pictures for y'all, but for now those will do just fine for the comparisons that are necessary. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 9, 2006, 01:14 PM
One other thing, I'm a bit more of a fan of the DC Direct line simply because they look better to me.  But equally important is the fact I deal with a guy in a comic shop that sells them for only $12.99 CAD or about $11 USD which is a big bargain when I look online from US shops.  Other places locally they retail at about $19.99 CAD which is more in line with the usual $15.99 USD price I see.  Add to that TRUs price of $12.99 for DC Superheroes and it's really a no brainer for me. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mikey D on November 9, 2006, 01:41 PM
Thor #1 came out in series 3 with Ghost Rider, yellow Wolverine and Magneto.  And I agree, I much prefer that one that to the WM version.  I have always viewed Thor as being taller and bulkier (he is a god after all) than his human colleagues (Cap, Iron Man, etc.) in the Avengers.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 9, 2006, 01:54 PM
Thanks Mikey.  What came out when is all a big blur to me anyway, I just know I like the first version better.  I do like the later Cap version better, but never bought it because I didn't want multiple versions of it. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 9, 2006, 03:15 PM
Thanks for all those pictures Brent! Man, that DCD Supes is just so cool...
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Jeff on November 15, 2006, 11:27 AM
Incidentally, I threw in the Ross version of Green Lantern, in case Jeff is being forced to follow along at home.  It's a great figure, but I think a bit larger than the GL series of GL figures. 

I must have missed this line amongst the big posts, but yeah - I agree.  I've got that Ross GL figure and he is a bit larger than the rest of the GL figures.  Seems to be that those Ross figures are a bit on the large scale.

Scale with DC stuff is frustrating.  Most of the Hasbro/Mattel stuff ends up being closer to 6" - 6/5" scale, while the DCD stuff is closer to 7" - 7.5" scale.   ::)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on November 27, 2006, 09:49 AM
I actually saw the new 2 packs this weekend at our local Target (Superman/Clark Kent, Batman/Batgirl).  I was so tempted to pick them up, but with that giant Shuttle box in the cart already, the Mrs. said no-no.  I couldn't really afford to pick those up too though, with picking up the Shuttle, the Modal Nodes Tin, and a couple Spidey things up in the past week or so.  As much as I like this DC Superheroes line, I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to have to give it up.  I spend enough on Star Wars and Marvel the way it is, and its not like I have anymore display space anyways :).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on November 27, 2006, 01:48 PM
Just poor timing Brian.  Mattel, to my knowledge, doesn't ever underproduce anything.  I can't recall anything being rare after a period of time, so those two packs will probably be around for a while yet.  I'm hoping they are.  We'll be in Hawaii in a couple of weeks, but their distribution isn't so great and we won't be in North Dakota until February again, so I'm hoping they'll be peg warming by then.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on December 8, 2006, 11:40 PM
My local Target is still weighted down with the Superman/Bizarro two-packs. They did have a case of wave 4, judging by the lame-o Superman and some Superman/Supergirl variants, but I of course missed Luthor, Brainiac, and Darkseid.

This line is quite a bitch to find around here. I have yet to see series 3 still, and it's in the middle of the Christmas season. Both local WMs have dropped the line, and TRU and Target have too many wave 1 figures.  :-\
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on December 9, 2006, 12:01 AM
We just restocked (and by we, I mean the 2 TRUs in town) with wave 3 again and I saw Azrael and Mr. Freeze at both stores yesterday.  I'm hoping that means we've finally moved on from series 1 and 2 which have been brought in ad nauseum.  No sign of 4 at all and I'd like to get a look at Luthor/Brainiac/Darkseid to see if I'll buy any of them.  I do have the Alex Ross versions of Luthor/Brainiac on order, but sometimes those are a bit of a stretch, so I'm curious about the quality of these.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: drewlam on December 12, 2006, 09:41 AM
Brent,

if you do see Luthor/Brianiac or Darkseid here and decide you don't like them, I know someone who would probably take them off your hands for you  ;)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2006, 05:28 PM
The Superman Returns toys are 50% off at TRU now. I picked up the House of El 2-pack for $10 since it has Marlon ******* Brando in it.  :)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on January 16, 2007, 10:16 AM
Apparently, new(er) DC Superheroes figures are now showing up at Meijers (http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5730), if you have those in your area.  From what I've read, only the Bizarro (repacked) has been found in the new purple packaging.  The link above has a pic of the new card front/back, which shows Superman, new Supergirl, Steel, Doomsday (orange), Parasite, and Bizarro.  Apparently the "orange" color for Doomsday is to similate him getting hit by Superman's heat vision  ::).  There hasn't been much outside of Supermen on the pegs here for awhile, and every once in awhile some others from that wave.  I haven't decided what I'm going to do with this line yet, but I might pick up that Parasite figure - undecided on Supergirl/Steel.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on January 16, 2007, 10:55 AM
Repacks :o  I can walk into TRU right now and find Doomsday, Bane, Bizarro, the old Supergirl and probably Scarecrow.  Well, I guess this line is dead locally as far as we're concerned, it's unlikely once those case lots are looked over that they'll be ordered. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on January 18, 2007, 03:29 PM
Speaking of repacks.  I saw oodles of Superman movie figures repacked onto different cardbacks ??? >:(  What in the hell are they thinking?  Two aisles over the original releases are sitting at 50% off and not moving, so a new cardback is going to help this how?  In case I haven't made it abundantly clear:  I hate movie associated toylines. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on January 18, 2007, 03:37 PM
I was kind of surprised to see this line continuing as well, under the new "Man of Steel" moniker.  These have been hanging out at our local Target, and seem to be made up of Superman repacks, a Lex repack (maybe retool? I didn't look that close), and a couple other villains like Metallo and Mongul I believe (from the video game designs I think).  It sure seemed to me like this line bombed around here, but its always tough to judge those movie lines.  Certainly not well enough to justify continuing the line when there isn't another movie due until 2009 at the soonest.  Plus, the DC Superheroes Supermen are sitting right next to these on the pegs - and are larger and in scale with Batman figures available in that line.  Who knows, doesn't seem like a great idea - but then, it is Mattel.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Biffette on January 29, 2007, 02:38 AM
The Man of Steel Lex Luthor is a repaint.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on January 30, 2007, 11:57 PM
Word around the campfire is that the Parasite/Steel/Supergirl wave is out. I've seen some pics from people who found them, and they look great. No Mongel in the group though. Can't wait to find these, and see what's in store for Toyfair!
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2007, 11:33 AM
Actually, I just found that latest wave at our local WM this morning.  No Mongul, but they had one each of Parasite, Supergirl (blue outfit), Superman, Steel, and the orange Doomsday.  Pretty nice figures, I really hope Mattel can get the license for the whole DCU eventually - I'd really like to get characters like Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, etc. in this range.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on January 31, 2007, 04:02 PM
Actually, I just found that latest wave at our local WM this morning.  No Mongul, but they had one each of Parasite, Supergirl (blue outfit), Superman, Steel, and the orange Doomsday.  Pretty nice figures, I really hope Mattel can get the license for the whole DCU eventually - I'd really like to get characters like Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, etc. in this range.

Nice find! I'm chomping at the bit for Supergirl and Parasite. I've never really been a Steel fan (makes me think of Shaquille O'Neal unfortunately), but if I like the figure when I see him, I'll probably pick him up.

The crappy thing is that these things only seem to be showing up at Walmart, and there's no Walmarts anywhere near NYC. I'm hoping these don't turn out to be Walmart exclusives...
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on February 5, 2007, 11:52 PM
Anyone else finding this wave yet? Are you drowing in Parasites, Supergirls and Steels? If so, just send them to me, and I'll do my part to rid your Walmarts of those pesky new DCSH figures...  ;)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on February 6, 2007, 03:18 PM
Anyone else finding this wave yet? Are you drowing in Parasites, Supergirls and Steels? If so, just send them to me, and I'll do my part to rid your Walmarts of those pesky new DCSH figures...  ;)

Likewise up here, we got nada.  Checked today and still the same old stock, which is new stock, but old because it's the original version of supergirl.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on February 6, 2007, 03:22 PM
I was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time I think, as I haven't seen any of those figures since.  I have seen the recarded Superman (and variant) on the purple cardbacks, but nothing else.  I still kind of want to pick up Steel, but passed on him the time I saw him because I was trying to limit spending at the time.  Hopefully these will start showing up more soon.  The only place that has had them at all here has been WM (and just Supermen now), and Target still has Superman/Supergirl figures from the previous wave.  Our local TRU still has Killer Croc and Bane on the pegs, and have for practically a year it seems.

I'm curious to see what's on the way from this line at Toy Fair.  I do kind of like these figures, although it stinks they don't have access to the whole DCU.  It sure would be nice to have the Justice League in this lineup, or at least some of them.  Hopefully DC loosens the reigns and allows Mattel the entire license in the future.  I had considered giving up this line, but if the Marvel Legends is winding down/wrapping up, I might be able to continue on more than I had planned.  I guess we'll know more about both lines at Toy Fair.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on February 6, 2007, 03:29 PM
Distribution seems to be so whingy, I'm not sure I want them to have more of the line :-\  I think the figures are well done, especially for the price point, but case pack and distribution are horrid.  The distribution isn't necessarily the fault of the manufacturer, but the case ratios are.  Packing that many Supermen and shipping so many boxes while the movie line was also out is a bit overly ambitious with respect to expected sales.  Kids will get one or the other, not both.  They can do better on this line.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: drewlam on February 7, 2007, 09:01 AM
I was on the dc comics website last night, and in the DC Direct area they have a link to an "under construction" page for DC Unlimited.  Not a lot of details, but it sounds as though DC unlimited will be a new line of toys, and it says it will be seeing release in comic shops and retail outlets (or something like that).  Could be interesting.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on February 7, 2007, 09:03 AM
I was just coming over here to post about that as well, after reading this press release (http://toynewsi.com/index.php?itemid=10806) over at TNI.  Not a lot of info to go on there yet, but again, we'll know more after Toy Fair.  If it means a Marvel Legends-ish line for DC at mass retail (where they can actually produce characters outside of the Superman/Batman world), it sounds good to me.  It could be something totally different though, so who knows.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on February 7, 2007, 10:12 AM
I wonder if they're trying to capitalize on Hasbro's "style" of managing the ML line?  Probably just conspiracy theory type thinking on my part but I wonder if the switch from ToyBiz to Hasbro has left them thinking there's an opportunity here where the quality has gone down, or the number of rehashes has gone up (spiderman line repaints being a prime example). 

I wonder too what the impact would be on DC Direct licenses?  A well sculpted, but more articulated and most importantly, in scale, line of DC figures would be very nice and would pull a good chunk of my dollars away from the DC Direct lines.  Getting well sculpted but relatively generic figures of Flash, Green Lantern and others has a lot of appeal. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Jeff on February 7, 2007, 11:29 AM
If it means a Marvel Legends-ish line for DC at mass retail (where they can actually produce characters outside of the Superman/Batman world), it sounds good to me.

This has me very worried... if they end up making a ML type line of DCU figures where they are all in the same style and all in the same scale, it could be VERY bad for my wallet.   :-\


I wonder too what the impact would be on DC Direct licenses? 

Well, I'd imagine they could both be kept up.  DC Direct would continue to supply high-end well sculpted, low articulated figures from comic seres/books like the Ross' Justice line, Batman Long Halloween, Infinite Crisis type specialty lines) like they are doing now, while the new line would be more of a mass-melding pot.

Plus, it would probably allow the DCD stuff to focus more on the non-traditional characters like it did when it first started - Preacher, Sandman, and the rest of the Vertigo type stuff.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Jeff on February 8, 2007, 03:21 PM
Well, here it is a day later and our dreams of a Legends-esque DC line seem to have been dashed...  :-\

Looks like all the "DC Unlimited" line is doing is giving DC Direct a way to make action figures from "other" non-DC lines.

They announced the first two lines from DC Unlimited and they are World of Warcraft (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=100627) figures and Afro Samurai (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=100719) figures.   ::)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2007, 03:43 PM
I saw that too, and that's really too bad.  I mean, assaults on our wallets aside, I really would have liked to see this happen.  Maybe there will still be a surprise at Toy Fair, but I'm not counting on it either at this point.  I just wish they would go ahead and give Mattel the entire DCU license if they aren't going to take advantage of it themselves.  They can focus on the artist/story specific versions, 1st appearances, and all that sort of thing and let Mattel just make the generic versions of the characters of the DCU.  Its really a mistake that they're not capitalizing on all of the success that Marvel Legends has had, and really it might be the best time to strike now as ML might be running out of top tier character choices in their line (barring remakes).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on February 9, 2007, 12:52 PM
Following in the tradition of Spidey and Friends, it looks like we have DC Superfriends (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/toyfare/003376544.cfm) on the way later this year.  Pics and info at the link.  Might have to pick up a couple of these to stash away for the wee one on the way this summer :).

Also, I read a report on the Fwoosh today that Mongul (from the DC Superheroes line) has been found at a WM (not sure where).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on February 12, 2007, 10:48 AM
I was initially disappointed with the DC Superheroes showing this year, consisting mainly of repaints (Bizarro, Darkseid, Supes), but it looks like ActionFigureInsider has an exclusive look (http://actionfigureinsider.com/toyfair2007/?p=31) at the upcoming Clayface figure, which looks all sorts of cool.  Not enough money for all the stuff I'd like to collect this year though :).  It sounds like Mattel reps have said there will be 22 new figures this year (including repaints/retools), so I wonder how many we'll see that are actually "new".
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on February 12, 2007, 11:43 AM
22 new figures?  Jeez, I'm still waiting on most of 2006's figures to show up at retail, or even ebay. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on March 4, 2007, 05:12 PM
We have the recarded Superman figures around now.  The variant (black around the S) isn't very rare up here, there were more on the pegs than the regular. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Mister Skeezler on March 5, 2007, 01:34 PM
Just a heads-up, these are supposedly showing up at TRU and Target now. I haven't seen any of them, but that's the rumor I heard.

Anyone who finds Parasite, Supergirl, and/or Mongul that they don't want or need, let me know.  ;)
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on March 8, 2007, 11:55 AM
Through a few online retailers, the next couple lineups for the DC Superheroes line have shown up.  If these hold out to be true (which it sounds like they are), it looks like a combo of repaints and a new figure here and there.  Also, the case packs leave a little to be desired, as usual with Mattel:

Mix 999T
Estimated arrival 3/15
1x Superman
1x Steel
1x Kal-El
1x Bizarro
1x Superman variant
1x Cyborg Superman


Mix 999U
Estimated arrival 3/15
*Specialty channel case mix
4x Knight Shadow Batman
1x Two-Face
1x Camo Bane

Mix 999G
Estimated arrival 4/10
1x Steel
1x Superman variant
1x Kal-El
1x Superman (black and gray)
1x Bizarro
1x Mongul

Mix 999H
Estimated arrival 5/5
3x Knight Shadow Batman
1x Batgirl
1x Two-Face
1x Camo Bane

Really not much new with this line at retail around here.  TRU still has the same Banes/Scarecrows they have had for months, Wal-Mart has bare pegs, and Target has recently gotten some purple carded figures - but just repacks of Superman and Bizarro (and not the "new" repainted Bizarro).  They also have some of the older figures, more Supermen.  I saw Parasite/Supergirl/Steel one time, and was kind of tight with the funds at the time, so had to leave Steel behind - now I really wish I would have picked it up.  Hopefully these will be easier to find as time goes on.  I have to say, of all the lines I pay the most attention to in the stores, I think the DC stuff (Superheroes and JLU) are by far the toughest to find.  It only looks like a couple new figures in the next few months, so I guess that's ok, I'll be spending enough elsewhere the way it is.  Its really too bad the WB/DC Direct won't let Mattel have the license for the entire DCU though.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on March 8, 2007, 01:15 PM
Series 1 – Batman (December 2005)
__Batman (with blue or grey knee pins) (comic Batman line Dx. Bat Signal Batman retool, without signal)
__Bane (comic Batman line repack, with retooled hands)
__Scarecrow (comic Batman line repack)
__Killer Croc (comic Batman line retool with completely new head)
__CHASE: Bane with Osito

Series 2 – Superman (April 2006)
__Superman
__Supergirl (Linda Danvers)
__Doomsday
__Bizarro
__CHASE: Bizarro (with eye pupils)

Series 3 – Batman (Late July 2006)
All come with dioramas, start of S3 (Select Sculpt Series) logo on packaging
__Batman
__Robin (comic Batman line redeco)
__Azrael
__Mr. Freeze (comic Batman line retool with more articulation and new paint job)
__CHASE: Unknown (Maybe a Battle Damaged Batman?)
__CHASE 2: Unknown

Target Exclusive 2-Packs (August 2006)
__Superman (Series 2 repack) Vs. Bizarro (Series 2 repack)

Target Exclusive 2-Packs (August 2006?)
__Superman (Series 2 repack?) and Clark Kent
__Batman (Series 3 repack?) and Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)

Series 4 – Superman (October 2006?)
__Battle Damaged Superman(presumably Series 2 Superman repaint or retool)
__Lex Luthor
__Brainiac
__Darkseid
__CHASE: Dark Superman (was originally Series 2.5)
__CHASE 2: Dark Supergirl (was originally Series 2.5)
Could be that Dark variants have replaced Battle Damaged Superman and this is the start of 5 figure waves (originally said to be starting in 2007)

DC Super Heroes Checklist 2007

Series 5 - Superman (2007)
__Unknown Superman Variant
__Supergirl (Kara Zor-El)
__Steel (John Henry Irons)
__Parasite
__Mongul

Series 6 - Batman (2007)
__Unknown Batman Variant
__Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)
__Two-Face
__Catwoman
__Joker (comic Batman line repaint with new accessories)

What do those assortments mean in relation to the earlier listed stuff?

I'm guessing we're seeing the above listed series 5 showing up on the pegs now, though all I've seen so far are Superman and Bizarro figures on the new purple cards.  It's quite possible I missed the Parasite/Mongul figures, but Bizzaro showig up again isn't really all that reassuring. 

I was very much looking forward to the Series 6 release, but now I'm not even sure if it's coming at all.  I had high hopes for finding both of the Batgirl figures and a Catwoman figure in the same scale.  None of those current listings hold much interest for me as listed.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on March 8, 2007, 01:23 PM
I'm not sure about that either Brent.  I was looking forward to the upcoming assortments as they were listed, but it seems as if Mattel is changing things up now.  I think that the figures listed will come out eventually, but they may be packed very low in cases with more re-releases/repaints.  Who knows, its hard to say.  Mattel just cancelled some upcoming JLU assortments, and replaced them with different ones (also via online stores such as BBTS), so maybe they are just switching things around.  They're tough enough to find the way it is, so it doesn't need to be worse.  Like I mentioned, I've only seen the new Parasite/Supergirl/Steel wave once, and haven't seen Mongul yet.

I'm kind of kicking myself for skipping the Clark Kent/Superman and Batman/Batgirl packs when I saw them late last year.  Money was tight around Christmas so I skipped them hoping I could get them later, but they're long gone now.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on March 8, 2007, 01:55 PM
I have the unmasked version of Batgirl that comes with two heads, so I didn't really need the two pack version, but it would have been nice as I could display her with and without the mask on for a relatively cheap price and get a Batman in the bargain.  Of course those haven't shown up in Canada at all and I haven't been south of the border since September (well, other than Hawaii, but that doesn't count). 

There were images in Toyfare that I assume were pre-production images, but were actual figures, of series 6 including the Batgirl figures, so I'm surprised they aren't following through with them.  I thought that series was initially supposed to be out in the fall of 2006.

I'm guessing the whole production got scuttled a bit by all of the Superman movie figures >:( being out there.  I know up here they sold reasonably well, but cut into the Superman Series 2 figure sales.  That wave was on the shelves for the better part of the year.  Series 3 I saw maybe 3-4 times total and I never saw Series 4. 
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on March 12, 2007, 09:16 AM
We were picking up some groceries quick at WM this weekend, and although there was nothing new for SW (darn Tantive BP), they did have a couple of Monguls on the pegs, so I picked one up.  Pretty nice figure overall.  Its too bad, it seems like this line has some nice, well-made figures in it, hopefully Mattel can keep it going and not turn it into another MOTU disaster with shipping/case pack problems.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: JediJman on March 12, 2007, 02:34 PM
We were picking up some groceries quick at WM this weekend, and although there was nothing new for SW (darn Tantive BP), they did have a couple of Monguls on the pegs, so I picked one up.  Pretty nice figure overall.  Its too bad, it seems like this line has some nice, well-made figures in it, hopefully Mattel can keep it going and not turn it into another MOTU disaster with shipping/case pack problems.

Has anyone found Supergirl from this wave yet?  I've seen lots of Purple carded figs, but no Kara.  :'(
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on March 12, 2007, 02:38 PM
I saw the blue-costumed Supergirl one time at our local Wal-Mart, when I picked it up.  Since then I think the only Supergirl figures I have seen are the black-skirted "variant" version.  Although I've been fortunate with my finds so far (still missing Steel), the supply hasn't been real plentiful around here.  Mostly Supermen and Bizarros.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on March 15, 2007, 11:52 AM
This wave hit our local TRU this morning, so I was able to grab a Steel (the only one).  Also of note, they had something I hadn't seen before - a 5 pack of Batman figures through the years.  It had a "TRU Exclusive" sticker on it, and included the following:

Batman from B: TAS (actually, from TNBA I think)
Batman from "The Batman"
Batman from Justice League
Zip-Line Batman from the Mattel Comic line
Batman Begins Batman (the regular, black one)

Its not something anyone would likely want, since Batmen aren't usually too tough to find, but it looked kind of neat.  I think it was called "Batman Through the Years" or something along those lines, and ran about $30 if I recall correctly.  All the Batman figures included in the set were "normal" ones, with black and greyish deco (aside from the movie one).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Ben on March 23, 2007, 03:24 AM
Finally picked up a Darkseid. Now I wish I had picked up Luthor and Brainiac when I saw them after Christmas.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on March 24, 2007, 02:12 PM
The Luthor in this set kicks butt.  Especially for those of you who have been following the Superman/Batman comics.  This is one of the best Luthors that have been created in a long time.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on April 3, 2007, 09:39 AM
A poster on the Fwoosh (http://www.fwooshnet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38384&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) forums has posted some pics (from online auctions I believe) of the upcoming wave of Batman figures.  It looks like a black repainted Batman (kind of neat), Two Face, Clayface, ManBat, Batgirl (Cassie Cain version), as well as repacked/repainted Mr. Freeze, Bane, and another Batman.  I don't know if these are all coming at once, or if they will be staggered out, but this should be the next ones on the way.  I've considered dropping this line to save some money, but it would be hard to pass up Clayface (and Two Face).
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Morgbug on May 25, 2007, 03:02 PM
Been a while and with all the C4 news, this might be a little outside this week's topics of interest but I picked up a new Superman figure today.  Not from the DC superheroes line, but it seems to be where we have all our discussions, so rather than diluting it away. 

The DC Direct Infinite Crisis series 2 figures came out this week and I picked up one of each (if anyone's looking for Firestorm, lmk, I'm not remotely attached to it.  They're all pretty nice, but I was impressed with Superman enough to take his photo beside my favorite Superman, the variant from Ross' series 1:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Morgbug/P5250080.jpg)

I guess I just like angry Supermen.  It compares fairly favorable with the Ross version and is a nice sculpt.  The biggest problems are he's clenching his legs together pretty tight (gotta take a dump?) and they don't move, making him hard to stand.  The other is he, like the Batman in this series (who is basically a battle damaged version and wickedly cool too), suffers from massive deltoid disease preventing him from doing much other than stay in perpetual flex mode. 

Supe's legs are probably not meant to be such a problem as he's supposed to be displayed in flying mode - there's a stand in there to hold him up.  I'm pretty sure it won't work great, it's kind of flimsy like the McFarlane pegs/rods, but the intent is there. 

The rest of the series includes the already mentioned Batman and Firestorm.  There's also a pretty nice Wonderwoman in there too, if you're looking for a pretty decent sculpt without being over the top.  There are also Donna Troy and Wonder Girl figures in the assortment that are pretty nicely done as well, though they don't mean much to me beyond being female characters that are, um, well sculpted. 

I'm really slowing down on DC stuff now as I have sculpts I like of most of the characters I want.  The exception would be a Flash figure that hasn't been done to my satisfaction at this point.  At least not recently. 

As for the DC superheroes line, the only store carrying it is TRU and they keep getting the "new" wave 5 case with the new background.  But there's two versions of that shipping, one with Steel Parasite and Mongul.  The other only has two versions of Superman (black S variant), Supergirl and Bizzaro, packed at two per case.  It's awful and hideous and evil and exactly the case the stores keep putting out.  So we've got Superman, Bizzaro and the occasional Supergirl clogging the pegs from wave 5 with the exact same figures on different cards from wave 2.  This will naturally lead TRU to not carry these figures beyond this wave ::) meaning I won't see the Cassandra Cain Batgirl up here.  Yay.
Title: Re: DC Superheroes
Post by: Brian on May 25, 2007, 04:12 PM
I haven't been keeping a real close watch on the DC Superheroes line lately, but I think I'm pretty much caught up with what I want (of what is out) right now.  I know our Wal-Mart is usually pretty well stocked, although I think it is primarily the repaints of Bizarro and Darkseid (I think?).  Target has some of these as well, lots of Bizarros and Supermen.  TRU is much the same, pretty much Bizarros and Supermen everywhere.  I did decide to pick up a couple of the Target exclusive 2 packs awhile back, since they were clearanced out for around $6 I think (Superman/Clark, Batman/Bargirl).  Other than that, seeing all of this great product on the way in the Star Wars side of things, I'm really thinking I might have to call it quits on DC stuff.  I do like that Clayface that is on the way later this year, but I just don't know if I can afford it with the other collecting and a new baby on the way this summer :).  If they ever open this line up to the entire DCU, that would be a different story I'm thinking :P.