JediDefender.com Forums
Community => Watto's Junk Yard => Topic started by: Brian on September 5, 2006, 04:02 PM
-
With all the "next gen" systems starting to hit (or coming this fall), it seems like we're really starting into a new area of gaming. Where my friends and I used to get a new system when they came out (back in the days of NES/SNES/Genesis/PS1/etc.), now its getting to the point where the prices are getting so high its harder to justify the spending.
Personally, the last game system I bought was the Nintendo Gamecube. At the time, I got it because it was the most affordable and because I really wanted the Rogue Leader game (which was GC only then). Also, along with some of the other Star Wars games, some superhero-type games (or movie), and sports games - that's pretty much all I play. I also got the Nintendo at the time thinking I would buy some of the Mario/Metroid/Zelda games that were on the way, bringing back the nostalgia of the original NES. Anyways, I have been happy with the Gamecube, but it does seem to be a little more limited as to what games it carries. Now it looks like 2006 will be the last year that has new games for the Cube, at least according to the releases listed on IGN.
Going into the future of gaming, how many of you are planning on buying a new system? The 360 is out, the PS3 is on its way (in $400/$500 ranges the way it sounds), and the Nintendo Wii is supposed to be out before the end of the year (at I read around $250 pricetag). I'm not sure that I could justify getting a new system at the new prices, although if the Wii was $250 it might at least be an option. I've also thought about getting a handheld system, since they are cheaper, but I've never owned one. Or, I might just have to hang up on getting a new system altogether. I guess I was just curious what many of you were thinking about video games as we move ahead into the next generation now. Things are more expensive than ever before (hardware and software), and I guess I personally don't have as many "gaming hours" as I did in high school and college. Are you getting a new system - if so, which one?, sticking with a current one, or just passing altogether?
-
I'm looking to have a 360 and a Wii by Christmas. PS3 ($500 and $600) is way down the line, if ever. Probably 2008 sometime.
And I'll be getting a black Nintendo DS before the new Zelda DS game comes out, too.
Adjusted for inflation, the Atari 2600 is still the most expensive console ever released.
-
I've always valued the individual games over the systems... so for example, I bought a PS2 pretty much for King's Field and the handful of Resident Evil games I couldn't get anywhere else.
Maybe I'm a sucker that way, but it means that I'll end up probably getting all three - but I will say that I'm currently very turned off by the controller on the Wii - maybe it's not as dumb as it looks to me at the moment.
Anyways, I've played the 360 a few times, and I love it. I'm getting one on Friday... I picked up Oblivion this week and am going to grab Call of Duty 2 and Madden this weekend.
-
I'm quite the gamer, so I usually buy most of the systems just so I can play the best games.
Last generation, I bought the Gamecube for Mario Kart, Sunshine and of course the Star Wars flight titles. That's pretty much all I ever played on it.
My PS2 is used exclusively for DDR, Katamari and Karaoke Revolution titles (I just pre-ordered the newest DDR for it to get the "free" soundtrack CD.
My Xbox was my favorite of the last generation, mostly due to Halo and Halo 2, though PGR and Soul Calibur were also given countless hours. Worms 3D was also a sleeper hit for me.
I've owned Every version of the Gameboy since the original black and white one, except for the Micro. I went right to the DS and the DS-Lite from there. Tetris and Mario Kart DS are both awesome, New Super Mario is amazing.
This generation, I already have my 360. The other two, I have a feeling I'll get eventually, though not next month.
At over 600 dollars after tax before you even buy a game, the PS3 needs to show me some completely wonderful titles before I'll make that kind of Neo Geo type investment on it. I've seen some good demos, but I want to see actual games. They've been pretty quiet lately. I didn't pre-order, so I think this might be a 2007 console....if the price goes down or they release some awesome games. At launch, it's just a lot of money to spend on a Blu-Ray player I don't need.
I think I'll end up with a Wii, though I'm not sure if that'll be at Christmas time or sometime after. There's a great video on IGN where they walk you through several of the titles. The graphics suck, but the console looks like it might be fun to have around for parties or whatever. I'll probably use it exclusively for that, as I can't imagine waving my hands around on a regular basis just to play a game.
Today though, it's pretty much all about the 360 and DS. I'm playing Dead Rising right now, along with Ninety Nine Nights and a few of the arcade titles on Xbox Live. When those are done, I'm getting Saints Row (too many good reviews from my friends not to get it). In the next few months, Gears of war, DOA Extreme 2, Viva Pinata, DDR Universe, Lego Star Wars 2 and a bunch of others will be competing for my video game dollar. My thumbs are getting sore just thinking about all these good games. ;D
-
The PS3 would be neat simply for the Blu-Ray capability, but I'll see which format wins before I drop any cash in any way.
The X-Box 360 would be pretty neat, but I don't see anything that screams "BUY ME" there. The only current gen (is that the proper term?) system I have is the X-Box, and the only stuff I play on it is single-player games and the Star Wars games, and I don't use Live, so there isn't much there for me.
The Wii, on the other hand, has me intrigued with the ability to play past games on it via download. I'm sure it sounds better in words than in practice, so I'll wait a bit and see what happens there.
All of them are too expensive for me to buy at launch, so I'll likely be waiting a couple of years to buy another. I'm still quite satisified with what I have now. My 8-bit NES sees more game time than all of my other systems combined (PS1, SNES, Genesis, X-Box, and Game Boy) so I'm clearly not cutting-edge by any stretch of the imagination.
-
I plan on getting a Wii sometime in the next few months. Not only am I a loyal Nintendo gamer, I'm digging the controller. I know a lot of people hate it, but I like the uniqueness of it. I also like the Nintendo iTunes thing (I forget the official name), where you can buy old Nintendo, Sega, and Independent Developer's games. Plus, it's backwards compatible with the Gamecube games I already have. In my eyes, there's nothing wrong with the Wii.
X-Box 360... all I can say is meh. The price, while not too bad, is still a bit pricy for me. I know it's backwards compatible with the original X-Box, but there have yet to be any 360 games that have reached out and made me want to buy a system just to play it. Plus, I never really liked X-Box Live, and since Live on the 360 isn't much different, I'll be passing for now.
PS3... ouch. I'm definately waiting a few years for the price to drop. I could care less about Blu-Ray, but I'm sure my mind will change if it really is the DVD killer everyone is hyping it up to be. I'll definately get one though, since I need to play Grand Theft Auto IV, so I'm hoping the PS3's price will fall to a more affordable price by the time GTA IV comes out in late 2007.
-
GTA IV will be available on both the 360 and the PS3.
-
I'm going to wait this one out. I just don't have time to play video games anymore and use my PS2 more for DVD viewing than video games.
I want to see how this HD-DVD / Blu-Ray thing pans out before I make a decision on the PS3.
-
My 8-bit NES sees more game time than all of my other systems combined (PS1, SNES, Genesis, X-Box, and Game Boy) so I'm clearly not cutting-edge by any stretch of the imagination.
You're not the only one. My old NES got much of game time as well, until it crapped out a couple of months ago. I still hope to get it fixed up (or buy another one if that is cheaper) to start playing those games again. I never get tired of Super Tecmo Bowl. I still think that system overall was the most fun I ever had with a video game system, between friends' games and my own. Maybe some wouldn't seem as fun now, but back in the day we could spend all day playing Tecmo Bowl, Double Dribble, Punch Out, Excitebike, Mario, Wrestling, Castlevania, etc. Good stuff.
-
Who needs an NES when you can just get Nesticle or some other emulator and keep every single NES game ever made on your computer - and the whole thing only takes a few megabytes. :o
-
I haven't had a new box since X-box...I do have a PSP which is AWESOME for travel but more for the movies that I have on the Memory Card than gaming.
The games I play just don't end up on XBox, PS2 etc...if they did, I'd probably get them, most of my gaming is mostly on the PC.
But now that I have a nice big TV, I'd love to get some games on it just for the view...
-
I'm looking into buying a HD tv first before I get the next gen systems. What good is having a next gen system if I can't enjoy it on a HD tv.
This is a perfect time for me, as far as current sytems go. I'm picking up a bunch of titles for PS2 and GC on clearance at various stores.
-
Plus, I never really liked X-Box Live, and since Live on the 360 isn't much different, I'll be passing for now.
I don't know if it's worth buying if you're not into multiplayer, but they now have free accounts and paid accounts so you get to choose whether or not you want to spring for the fee. Free accounts get access to everything except multiplayer and leaderboards....so in that respect, Live is a lot better than it was for 1.0. Plus, Live on the 360 has all sorts of new stuff, and lots of it is free.
Demos: You can download tons of free trials of games to see if you like them before you buy them.
Multiplayer: This is the same sort of thing, except now you have zones.
Recreation, Pro, Family, Underground. You set yours and then it helps you find the type of people you like to play with better. This will be especially useful if you like playing hardcore in one game but goofing around in another. You always find the right type of match. The feedback is better now too. Run into some little jerkass you don't like and you can not only leave him negative feedback, you can select never to see him in multiplayer again. As long as there are enough people to fill a room online, you won't see the jerkass again. That's a useful feature.
Marketplace: It has music videos, movie trailers, Red Vs Blue type stuff all for free download. You can also download wallpapers and stuff, but that costs money so I don't do it a lot. I did buy the Penny Arcade pack, because I wanted the fruit ****** gamer pictures. ;D
Best of all though is Live Arcade. They had this on Xbox, but you had to have a disk to run it, so it was a pain. It's built into Live now, so you can download trials of every game up there and play for free. Then...if you like them, they're like 5-10 bucks. Geometry Wars and Marble Blast ended up being two of my favorite 360 games. They just gave away Texas Hold Em for free, so now I don't have to go to the PC to get my online poker fix. Pretty good stuff.
-
Just curious now that all the systems are out (or are supposed to be out), how many of you have picked up one or more of the systems? Are you planning/hoping to get any of them, or sticking with previous ones because of the pricepoint(s)? Personally, I can't say I'm a huge gamer anymore, simply because I can't afford to buy a lot of games right now. I mainly play sports games, and Star Wars/Spidey/comic-based games for the most part. I'd probably pick up a few more if I didn't spend the money I do on collecting. Anyways, the most recent gaming system I have is the Gamecube - which I have gotten good use out of - but they are basically not making games for it anymore, and certainly not in the future, so I've thought of getting something new. I'm not sure I could ever afford the PS3, so that's likely out. The 360 would require a pricedrop as well. The Wii might be within range, but I haven't seen one around here yet. I've thought about just getting a PS2 for now, since they are relatively cheap and they seem to be continuing to make games for it for at least the next couple years. Who knows, with a little one on the way later this year, I might not end up being able to get anything - but I was just curious what some others have done. I've considered getting a handheld system as well, but I've never done that before - and don't know if I'd like having that be my "primary" gaming system or not. Anyways, what system are you playing - or hoping to pick up?
-
Why not get a Wii? Provided you can find one, of course. It's the cheapest, it comes with a game, it's fully-backwards-compatible with all the old GameCube games, and you can download all kinds of old school Nintendo games (and others) to it, if you want.
-
Of the new ones, I only have the 360 still - the Zephyr (sp?) looks awesome, but without HDTV, I'm not in a rush.
I plan on having a Wii by this time next year, for Zelda if nothing else.
-
I've still yet to buy anything because I want to make sure I'm 100% caught up from Christmas before I buy any new system. I'd like to be ahead of the game some for once.
The systems I'm eyeing are still a 360 and Wii... I'd like both, will try for both... PS3's price for lack of improvement over the 360 is all that keeps me from wanting it really.
-
I still like the 360.The Wii was neat,but not for the price :P It seems the 360 has no end of Star Wars games + I can play my old X-box games as well.That's a big advantage in my book
-
I've had Wii since launch week and i'm still really happy with it. They really haven't released any killer games since launch but with the ever growing list of Virtual Console downloads I never find myself bored...
As for the others, i've wanted a 360 for a while now but the lack of HDMI has me rethinking the PS3. The price is higher but the Blu-Ray player is a huge plus and my main console for the last 5 years has been PS2 so my old titles won't go to waste. Overall, I probably won't be buying either for at least 6 months so there is alot of time to decide. I just wish I could find a cheap used Xbox so I can play those damn Burger King games I bought. :P
-
I actually saw a couple of Wii systems in stock at our local Target yesterday, but unfortunately we can't spend the money on that right now. I can't say I wasn't tempted though. If I get a new system, it will likely be the Wii - or just settle for the cheaper, but older, PS2.
-
I'll keep the PS2 and Gamecube since right now they are at their height in terms of development and more importantly the number of titles available. My kids are happy with em so that will last them. I'll probably wait for 2 years or so before I buy in. I've gone cheap in my middle age. I know in 2 years price points should drop, game costs may not lower for new games, but the amount of games that are out used or at a discounted price point is significant that I can then buy two to three games for the price of one game right now. I have to admit though, I am looking at the 360 and the Wi instead of the PS3. We'll see in two years or so when I am ready to get serious whether one is the 360 or one is the PS3.
-
I don't know if it is confirmed or not, but I read a rumor this week that Sony is going to be coming out with a new remote that works like the "Wiimote" for the Nintendo Wii. This will work with the PS2, and you can buy it with new systems or to add to your existing PS2. The same rumor said that Sony would also be dropping the price of the PS2 to $99 - and this would be around Christmas. Grain of salt and all that, but it would be an interesting development. It sounds like PS2s still sell pretty well, despite all the next gen systems. Maybe $400-$600 is just too much for many people to pay for video game systems.
That said, now that we've had a few months, how do you think the systems are stacking up against each other sales wise? I have to say I still very rarely see a Nintendo Wii in stock anywhere. I have seen them, but they are always sold out in a matter of hours. I see PS3s all the time, and the 360 seems to be in good supply - but they've been out for awhile now. I'd really like to get a new system (I just have a Gamecube, which doesn't even have new games anymore), but I just don't think we can afford those higher end ones. I'm leaning more towards picking up a cheaper PS2 or Xbox. Anyways, who is winning the "console wars" at this point, if anyone?
-
I'm still happy with my PS2, Dreamcast, & N64. :) I'm always years behind on upgrading simply because I don't want to pay insane prices for the system & the games. I'll wait up to a year to get games at 50-70% as I don't need them the day the come out.
-
I'd really like to get a new system (I just have a Gamecube, which doesn't even have new games anymore), but I just don't think we can afford those higher end ones. I'm leaning more towards picking up a cheaper PS2 or Xbox.
Allow me to quote myself, from four months ago:
Why not get a Wii? Provided you can find one, of course. It's the cheapest, it comes with a game, it's fully-backwards-compatible with all the old GameCube games, and you can download all kinds of old school Nintendo games (and others) to it, if you want.
-
No, you're right, the Wii seems like a good choice. I was really wanting to get one (if I saw them), but with a baby on the way we just can't afford to drop $250 (plus games/etc.) on a new system right now. Maybe if I quit this collecting disease, it would help :P. That's the main reason I was leaning more towards some of the older systems, $100-$130 is easier to stomach for a new system. I'm not unhappy with the Gamecube necessarily, but being a person who can only afford to have one new system at a time, I started to find that it didn't carry a lot of the games you could get on all the other systems (including handhelds). That, and the fact that they aren't even making games for it anymore makes me lean towards a new system. Even with the success of the Wii so far, I guess that there is a small part of me gunshy with Nintendo again after seeing that they seem to have a lot less variety/longevity with their games/systems than the other two big names do.
I went with a 'cube at the time for the price, and the fact that I just wanted a "fun" system, reminding me of the NES of my youth. I still think that's the most fun I've ever had with a game system, the old 8-bit NES (I need to get mine fixed). Anyways, that's why I was leaning towards a Wii - and you're right, that probably would make the most sense for someone like me. Sometimes I just feel like I "backed the wrong horse" with the Gamecube last time, with the PS2 and Xbox seemingly being the better systems in the long run. Its all subject to what people like though I guess.
-
I just bought a Wii a few days ago, and my wife and I have logged some really fun hours on that console. We brought it to family get-together yesterday, and everyone who played on the console had lots of fun. We own a PS2 as well, but we both agree that the Wii provides us with more interactive and family fun. We only own 2 games now - Wii Games and Wii Play. I think this console has lots of potential.
Here is a lightsaber game I came across that's in the works - Wii Lightsaber Game (http://www.thegaminglife.net/2007/06/28/wii-lightsaber-game-this-fall/).
-
No, you're right, the Wii seems like a good choice. I was really wanting to get one (if I saw them), but with a baby on the way we just can't afford to drop $250 (plus games/etc.) on a new system right now. Maybe if I quit this collecting disease, it would help :P. That's the main reason I was leaning more towards some of the older systems, $100-$130 is easier to stomach for a new system. I'm not unhappy with the Gamecube necessarily, but being a person who can only afford to have one new system at a time, I started to find that it didn't carry a lot of the games you could get on all the other systems (including handhelds). That, and the fact that they aren't even making games for it anymore makes me lean towards a new system. Even with the success of the Wii so far, I guess that there is a small part of me gunshy with Nintendo again after seeing that they seem to have a lot less variety/longevity with their games/systems than the other two big names do.
I went with a 'cube at the time for the price, and the fact that I just wanted a "fun" system, reminding me of the NES of my youth. I still think that's the most fun I've ever had with a game system, the old 8-bit NES (I need to get mine fixed). Anyways, that's why I was leaning towards a Wii - and you're right, that probably would make the most sense for someone like me. Sometimes I just feel like I "backed the wrong horse" with the Gamecube last time, with the PS2 and Xbox seemingly being the better systems in the long run. Its all subject to what people like though I guess.
As far as the last generation (2000-2006) goes, yeah, if you only went with one console, and that console was the 'Cube, yeah, you probably picked the wrong horse. Still though--there was a bunch of good exclusive games for the 'Cube that you couldn't play on any of the others. It was an alright little system.
The PS2 is a different story. It's the oldest of all the systems out there, but it still sells a decent amount, and it's still being supported with new games, to some extent. God of War II game out a few months back, Guitar Hero: Eighties is coming out this month, and Guitar Hero III is coming out later this year. I'm sure there are many more--those are just the ones I'm interested in. But still, if you buy a PS2 now, that's still nearly a seven year-old system. Who knows how long it's going to be supported.
But whatever you do, don't get an original XBox--it's just as dead a system as the GameCube is.
I'd still say a Wii would be the best bet for you. It's a brand-new system, so it's going to be supported pretty well for at least a few years. It's fully-backwards compatible with all your old GameCube games. You can hook it up online and download many of the old NES and SNES games you enjoyed back in the day (at a nominal price, of course). At $250, it's the cheapest of the next-generation systems, and it comes with a game, so you don't really have to buy anything else, except maybe a second controller. A lot of people are happy with the pack-in game, Wii Sports. And even though it's been out for a year less than the 360, the Wii is on the verge of overtaking it in terms of total sales (around 10 million or so), so you can be sure that it'll have plenty of support and new games for the forseeable future.
As far as the cost goes, since the Wii is fully backwards-compatible with the GameCube, you could go sell or trade your GameCube in, along with any old GameCube games that you don't want to play anymore, and that would knock a chunk off the price of the Wii.