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Title: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on October 26, 2016, 09:24 AM
I didn't think this quite fit under the Avengers thread, and with a bunch of non-Avengers Disney Marvel films upcoming, I figured I'd start a dedicated thread.

Dr. Strange reviews are coming in, and they are typically Marvel spectacular...

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/doctor_strange_2016/

I went to an IMAX 3D 15-minute preview a few weeks back, and the jaw-dropping nature of the visuals simply can't be described in words.  It's like Inception on amphetamine.  It's like the flight sequence at the end of 2001 x 10,000.  I was absolutely engrossed.  And that was in small snippets.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: JediJman on October 26, 2016, 06:37 PM
I didn't think this quite fit under the Avengers thread, and with a bunch of non-Avengers Disney Marvel films upcoming, I figured I'd start a dedicated thread.

Dr. Strange reviews are coming in, and they are typically Marvel spectacular...

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/doctor_strange_2016/

I went to an IMAX 3D 15-minute preview a few weeks back, and the jaw-dropping nature of the visuals simply can't be described in words.  It's like Inception on amphetamine.  It's like the flight sequence at the end of 2001 x 10,000.  I was absolutely engrossed.  And that was in small snippets.

Just got back from a Disney vacation this week.  They were also showing an extended cut of the movie as an attraction (probably the same/similar) and I was also very impressed.  I've never cared much about Dr. Strange, but the comparison to Inception visuals on steroids is very apt.  Per the Marvel norm, they also have some great comic relief bits to break up the action.  I'm way more excited to see this now.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on April 26, 2018, 11:06 PM
So yeah - Infinity War:  MASTERPIECE!

Totally engrossing.  Met or exceeded my every expectation.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 27, 2018, 12:31 AM
Will I enjoy it?

I'm not much of a comic book guy. I've seen almost none of the Marvel movies. I did however highly enjoy GotG and liked Thanos.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on April 27, 2018, 11:25 AM
It's a great movie.  Not just a great comic book movie.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Brian on April 27, 2018, 09:26 PM
Saw it today, agreed great movie. But whoa......
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Darby on April 27, 2018, 09:43 PM
Still gathering my thoughts. It was almost exactly what I expected so I have a weird feeling of wow they did that and ok so no surprise there. Loved it, though. Need to see it again.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Diddly on April 27, 2018, 10:35 PM
Fantastic. I haven't heard a theater so silent at the end of a movie since Batman vs Superman... but this was a GOOD silence. It was an intense movie.

Last remark deleted. No spoliers please.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 27, 2018, 11:44 PM
Fantastic. I haven't heard a theater so silent at the end of a movie since Batman vs Superman... but this was a GOOD silence. It was an intense movie.

Last remark deleted. No spoilers please.

Hey ****wad....how about SPOILER WARNING!  >:(
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 28, 2018, 01:57 AM
Yeah that was a douche thing to mention in this thread day one
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 28, 2018, 02:02 AM
********DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL WORK BUT DON'T KEEP READING THIS THREAD IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ A MAJOR SPOILER *********
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: P-Siddy on April 28, 2018, 12:31 PM
********DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL WORK BUT DON'T KEEP READING THIS THREAD IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ A MAJOR SPOILER *********

Too late!!
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 28, 2018, 01:12 PM
Can I suggest Diddly or a mod delete it?
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2018, 01:25 PM
I would like to kindly ask that No Spoilers be posted. A lot of people like to stay spoiler free as it really does ruin an awesome movie. Thank you.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 28, 2018, 02:03 PM
********DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL WORK BUT DON'T KEEP READING THIS THREAD IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ A MAJOR SPOILER *********

Too late!!

Unfortunately anyone who hits the new button will see it.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 28, 2018, 02:04 PM
I would like to kindly ask that No Spoilers be posted. A lot of people like to stay spoiler free as it really does ruin an awesome movie. Thank you.

Thanks for taking care of it Dale.....I was going to make another thread warning people....the only thing I could think of.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Diddly on April 28, 2018, 04:23 PM
Sorry, I didn't realize this was a non-spoiler thread
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 29, 2018, 12:24 AM
My spoiler-less thoughts.

Wish very much I knew more about these characters going in. Honestly never heard of a few.

That being said it was a wonderful movie. I never thought I'd say this but now I need to go back and see a bunch of Marvel movies.

I don't love going nuts on positive or negative right after seeing something, but top 5 movie ending of all time. Acknowledging I have no clue if it follows an existing story arc.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on April 29, 2018, 12:25 AM
Infinity War is tracking very close to the all-time highest opening weekend (The Force Awakens).  I'm saying it breaks it.  It's just so good.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 29, 2018, 01:27 PM
Saw it yesterday.  Ten years of build up and it was mostly ruined by one line by Diddly.


You suck man!
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 29, 2018, 09:53 PM
What other movies is Thanos in other than GotG?
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 29, 2018, 11:08 PM
What other movies is Thanos in other than GotG?
Stinger at the end of Avengers 1 and 2.

Here's the first. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JlBceuLgY)

Here's the second. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d8VTAbotXY)
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 29, 2018, 11:11 PM
Cool. Thanks
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: JediJman on April 30, 2018, 07:17 PM
Saw this Friday and I'm still reeling from it.  Totally awesome movie and fully exceeded my expectations.  Seeing all the characters meet up was fun, and they still added lots of fun moments despite a much more serious edge on this movie.  Pacing was great too despite major characters and plot lines all over the place.  I did think there would be some rough spots for die hard fans in this movie and it did not disappoint, though the way it went down was very different from what I was expecting.  I don't think its a spolier to just say that this is the Empire Strikes back of this generation.  Can't wait to go see it again.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on April 30, 2018, 08:08 PM
I saw it this afternoon after work.  And it was an amazing film experience, comic book movie or not.  I was genuinely shocked and surprised at multiple points.  I'll respect the no spoiler request for the time being.  But you really will want to see this movie!
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Chris M on May 6, 2018, 05:29 PM
I got in to see this yesterday afternoon...had to sweet talk my daughter to get her to go with me.  I was blown away and I loved it.  A ton of stuff to digest.  I can't wait for the next installment.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: McMetal on May 7, 2018, 09:12 AM
Saw it last night, eeesh. Sort of wished I had paid more attention before going in because I thought the plan was to wrap everything up in one film.  :(

It was great and all but my overwhelming feeling after walking out was they just spent 2+ hours destroying everything they worked so hard for the past decade to build.

I also don't see how they can release any more Marvel movies now until IW 2. (Ant Man and Ms Marvel or whatever excepted)

Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Phrubruh on May 7, 2018, 09:20 AM
My daughter when to see it on friday. She absolutely loved it but had no clue who most of the characters were. She recognized Spiderman but wondered where the Flash was. She is a big Flash fan on the WB. I had to explain that the Flash is DC not Marvel.

Anyway this was MCU's version of Godzilla destroying Tokyo with nothing anyone can do about it.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on May 7, 2018, 12:44 PM

I also don't see how they can release any more Marvel movies now until IW 2. (Ant Man and Ms Marvel or whatever excepted)


It does seem to be a bit complicated from that standpoint.  From what I understand, production/principal photography on IW2 wrapped this past fall.

*POSSIBLE SPOILERS* The sense I get is that the Time Stone factors in greatly here.  It played a significant role in Dr. Strange as he faced Dormamu, and it will probably factor in here, too.  But it seems like the sense of jeopardy surrounding Infinity War may have been diminished since production of GotG Vol 3 has been announced, and pretty much all of the Guardians bought the farm in IW. *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: EdSolo on May 8, 2018, 06:43 AM
The simplest answer to releasing new movies is that there are only two on the schedule before Avengers 4.  Ant Man and the Wasp is next, which I believe takes place before the events of Infinity War.  After that is Captain Marvel, which will be set in the 90's.  All future movies will be released after Avenger's 4, so the next Avengers movie will set the table for what comes next.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 8, 2018, 07:55 AM
The simplest answer to releasing new movies is that there are only two on the schedule before Avengers 4.  Ant Man and the Wasp is next, which I believe takes place before the events of Infinity War.  After that is Captain Marvel, which will be set in the 90's.  All future movies will be released after Avenger's 4, so the next Avengers movie will set the table for what comes next.
Exactly.  Marvel has announced that features for GotG and Spidey are in the works.  One would also have to imagine that a Black Panther sequel is slated as well after the mega success of the last film.

I think once A4 releases that Marvel will detail what's next on their slate.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on May 8, 2018, 11:32 AM
You gotta figure there will need to be at least 3 films that are fully in production during late 2018 through 2019 if they want anything in theaters in their typical August/November/February slots after Avengers 4.  I can't imagine how they'd ever keep a lid on that.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 8, 2018, 01:19 PM
You gotta figure there will need to be at least 3 films that are fully in production during late 2018 through 2019 if they want anything in theaters in their typical August/November/February slots after Avengers 4.  I can't imagine how they'd ever keep a lid on that.
Good point.  Maybe the Nov and Feb titles are Spidey and GotG?
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Darby on May 8, 2018, 01:22 PM
They won't be able to keep a lid on anything production wise, though there is bound to be some massive disinformation coming.

I imagine the uncertainty right now is twofold - one the IF factor and two the Disney/Fox deal. If that closes on schedule in mid 2019, the soonest we would see any FF or X-Men movies in production for the MCU would be 2020, for release in 2021. Spidey 2 comes out July 19; Guardians 3 in 2020, I assume in May; there are likely two other Marvel films in 2020. Odds are they could be Dr. Strange, or Black Panther. Also possible, depending on the events of Avengers 4, we get a new Captain America film with a new Cap.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 8, 2018, 01:28 PM
Here is the upcoming Marvel schedule
July 6, 2018 Ant-Man and the Wasp
March 8, 2019 Captain Marvel
May 2019 Avengers 4
July 5, 2019 Spider-man 2
May 1, 2020 - Untitled Marvel Movie
July 31, 2020 - Untitled Marvel Movie 2
November 6, 2020 - Untitled Marvel Movie 3
May 7, 2021 - Untitled Marvel Movie 4
July 31, 2021 - Untitled Marvel Movie 5
November 5, 2021 - Untitled Marvel Movie 6
February 18, 2022 - Untitled Marvel Movie 7
May 6, 2022 - Untitled Marvel Movie 8
July 29, 2022 - Untitled Marvel Movie 9

I agree that the Fox merger... complicates things in a good way.  I would say that FF will be fast-tracked.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: McMetal on May 8, 2018, 03:46 PM
The only thing is, from a story perspective, it seems like they would need to have GOTG 3 before Avengers 4, but I guess they have figured out some way around that.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 8, 2018, 11:13 PM
I'm really looking forward to the Untitled Marvel series!  ;D
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 9, 2018, 08:05 AM
I read yesterday that Comcast may be getting back into the fray for acquiring Fox.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on May 9, 2018, 02:38 PM
The only thing is, from a story perspective, it seems like they would need to have GOTG 3 before Avengers 4, but I guess they have figured out some way around that.

If you look at things from the perspective of the IW comic?  Yes.  Especially with the way GotG vol 2 ended.  With Nebula still in circulation?  And Rocket, too?  Maybe there's some way for them to make amends with the Sovereigns, which means "you know who" might wind up with some role to play.

But then I look at that final scene in IW with Fury and Maria Hill, and the message Fury sent.  And that seems to be about as clear of a case of foreshadowing as you're going to find.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Darby on May 9, 2018, 02:48 PM
SPOILERS




I expect Guardians 3 will largely revolve around the Soul Stone, Adam Warlock, and the attempt to free Gamora from the Soul World. I think Peter will be highly motivated to redeem himself and obviously rescue her, but given the themes of the series so far, if I was a betting man, I would anticipate he will end up letting her go. I don't know that will be entirely successful, or even what they do, but that's kind of how I see it right now without knowing obviously how Avengers 4 plays out.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 14, 2018, 12:59 AM
This is a review blurb from a critic listed on Rotten Tomatoes. It made me laugh. Take yourself a little seriously much dude?...

The Avengers: Infinity War isn't just a gussied-up mediocrity being widely mistaken for a good movie. It's also, at least arguably, a dangerous movie for anyone who cares about the future of American cinema.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on May 14, 2018, 09:08 AM
(https://globalcc.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/snooty-new-yorker.jpg)
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Phrubruh on May 15, 2018, 10:07 AM
Weird. I haven't seen it yet. However initially everyone said it was amazing and best movie ever. Now you think it was Episode 1. It just shows how quickly the fan base can turn on something that isn't Star Wars.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on May 15, 2018, 10:20 AM
I haven't seen any backlash.  I think it's been received overwhelmingly positively.  It's got a 92% positive fan rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Phrubruh on May 16, 2018, 09:19 AM
I'm starting to see it appear in the Disney forums and unrelated tech forums I've read. The hate is brewing.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on May 16, 2018, 10:46 AM
I'm starting to see it appear in the Disney forums and unrelated tech forums I've read. The hate is brewing.

That seems to be the pattern, doesn't it?  Every big tentpole film is great until it isn't.  This really seems to have kicked off with Episode I, but back then it took a while.  And now in the social media age the timeframe where the love turns to hate seems to be happening much faster than it ever did before.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: JediJman on May 16, 2018, 01:16 PM
I'm starting to see it appear in the Disney forums and unrelated tech forums I've read. The hate is brewing.

Uh, where?  I have yet to read anything remotely bad about the movie other than people didn't like what happened to their favorite heroes at the end.   ???
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Dave on May 22, 2018, 04:48 PM
Finally saw Infinity War last night. 

I'm not sure if the statute of limitations on spoilers has passed or not, but just curious if that is how the comics version went down.  I'm not a Marvel comics guy so I don't know the back story.  Safe to say I was surprised to see how that went down and will be interested to see what comes next.

PM me if its not safe to post spoilerish stuff four weeks after a movie is released.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 22, 2018, 05:17 PM
I vote now it's on you if you haven't seen it and still go to threads about it at this point
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on May 22, 2018, 06:33 PM
I vote now it's on you if you haven't seen it and still go to threads about it at this point

Agreed.

In the comics it was similar but not exactly the same.  Thanos defeats all the heroes and obtains the 6 gems.  He kills a good many of them in the process.  But instead of being struck by Thor's axe and snapping his fingers immediately to wipe out half the universe, he kinda savors his new power for a while.  In the comics, the reason he wanted the stones was to win the love of Death (who's a female skeleton in the comics), not to bring balance to the universe.  After he gets them all, she's still not impressed and still won't love him.  So he finally follows through and snaps his fingers.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 22, 2018, 07:10 PM
In the comics it was similar but not exactly the same.  Thanos defeats all the heroes and obtains the 6 gems.  He kills a good many of them in the process.  But instead of being struck by Thor's axe and snapping his fingers immediately to wipe out half the universe, he kinda savors his new power for a while.  In the comics, the reason he wanted the stones was to win the love of Death (who's a female skeleton in the comics), not to bring balance to the universe.  After he gets them all, she's still not impressed and still won't love him.  So he finally follows through and snaps his fingers.

Apologies if I've said this before, but I would have liked it if they did something similar but the twist was that Thanos was in love with Hela, Goddess of Death instead. I know I'd go through all that trouble for Cate Blanchett  ;)
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 22, 2018, 07:27 PM
I had no knowledge of the comic ending, but thought the movie ending was brilliant. Thanos watching the sunset was awesome. I'm now smitten with Thanos.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 22, 2018, 11:13 PM
I propose in these types of threads we impose a one week ban on spoilery plot talk.  Most of us will see it within a week of release.

On another note.....Deadpool 2 was freakin awesome!  ;D
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on June 13, 2018, 08:25 PM
There's a pretty cool promo image for Ant Man and The Wasp on Twitter (https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1004377528658640902), and one of the panel images shows Michelle Pfeifer's character.  Possible spoiler warnings may apply.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: JediJman on June 14, 2018, 10:17 AM
Not a possible spoiler - a definitive spoiler.  Figured they would go that route based on the original, but I'm surprised they gave it away like that.   :-\
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on June 14, 2018, 11:00 AM
Her character listing on IMDB gives it away to a degree, too.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on June 14, 2018, 01:00 PM
Her character listing on IMDB gives it away to a degree, too.
But this image confirms that she appears in the film in more than just a flashback.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on September 5, 2018, 03:44 PM
Check out THIS ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY POSTING (https://ew.com/movies/2018/09/05/captain-marvel-ew-cover-brie-larson/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=D21EF478-B124-11E8-AEC5-7969663BB7C6&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_ew&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true) that gives us a first official look at Brie Larson as Carol Danvers, aka Captain Marvel!
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on September 18, 2018, 08:55 AM
This just dropped:

Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel - Official Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1BCujX3pw8)

I never thought I'd see the day when a NIN t-shirt would be considered "vintage".
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Brian on September 18, 2018, 10:44 AM
This just dropped:

Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel - Official Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1BCujX3pw8)

I never thought I'd see the day when a NIN t-shirt would be considered "vintage".

Really looking forward to this. I've become a big fan of this character over the past several years and it makes it even more fun because Captain Marvel comes second to only Rey with our daughter. Her excitement is through the roof for this movie. Really exciting.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: McMetal on September 18, 2018, 02:48 PM
Looks good, gotta watch it again because I didn't realize that was supposed to be a Skrull.  :o

Glad to see the movies are getting a lot of mileage out of the FF villains, if not the team themselves. Ronan, Klaw, Skrulls, etc.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on September 19, 2018, 07:51 AM
Now this is interesting...

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/loki-scarlet-witch-tv-series-marvel-disney-streaming-service-1202947551/

6-8 episode series featuring the same actors that played the characters in the films!
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on September 19, 2018, 09:40 AM
They seem to be going pretty deep with the whole Kree backstory - Ronan, Korath, Mar-Vell, and that whole Kree strike team.  And then you tie in Fury and SHIELD, and the story of Coulson being brought back after the first Avengers film with what turned out to be reverse engineered Kree technology (including a Kree corpse), and it brings some things together nicely.  I hope that the de-aged Fury and Coulson don't look ridiculous!

I'm glad to see the Skrulls being brought into the MCU at last, too.  Ever since projects like Thor, Avengers and GOTG took the stories beyond the bounds of Earth, the Skrulls have been a notable absence.  I had heard something to the effect that they were part of Fox's realm of the Marvel film franchise along with the Fantastic Four.  But now that Disney is buying Fox, that doesn't seem to be as much of a thing.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on September 20, 2018, 07:50 AM
Yeah, I'd heard Skrulls were F4/Fox properties as well.  Maybe when they were negotiating the merger (which isn't yet finalized), they loaned Disney rights to Skrulls the same way Sony did with Spidey.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Mikey D on September 20, 2018, 08:02 AM
Normal Skrulls are fair game, it's just Super Skrull and the other FF characters Marvel can't use (yet).
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BillCable on March 8, 2019, 08:03 AM
Saw Captain Marvel last night.  I really enjoyed it.  There were weaknesses, of course, but overall I had fun.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: JediJman on March 8, 2019, 12:05 PM
I saw the premiere last night and thought it was awesome.  I was not very impressed by the trailers and curious if we might finally see a flop, but this movie had me in stitches.  My son didn't get some of the references to things like Radio Shack or computers "loading" files, but those scenes had me in stitches.  Another great mix of action, humor, and plot points that I did not see coming.  Can't believe we're just six weeks away from Endgame!

Kind of a nice Easter Egg for those less versed with Marvel, in the comics the little girl (Monica Rambeau) grows up to be a SuperHero who can transform herself into light.  She went by both Photon and Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers was going by Ms. Marvel at the time).
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on March 11, 2019, 12:38 PM
I was finally able to see Captain Marvel yesterday.  And they managed to get me all misty-eyed with the opening credits that were dedicated to Stan Lee.  I found it to be a genuinely touching tribute.  And his cameo?  A nice touch given the place in time where the movie was set.

As for the film itself?  I enjoyed the fact that we just jumped right into the action.  We've seen a lot of origin stories over the years that always seemed to follow a fairly set structure.  But here?  We start with Vers (I liked that touch) as something of an apprentice to Jude Law's Yon-Rogg.  We get into the Kree-Skrull war, but it's not quite what we might have thought of it (or either faction).  And we got to see Vers go through a path of discovery that informed both her and the audience of her origins at the same time.  I thought that Brie Larson was genuinely likeable in the role.  And I think that her sense of being ill at ease was in line with her own lack of knowledge about where she had come from, and the ensuing confusion that comes with learning that you had been lied to for years.  When she finally realized the scope of her abilities by the end of the film?  I saw a much more confident character.

Samuel L. Jackson brought an interesting new dimension to Nick Fury.  And I think the de-aging process worked well.  As for the eye injury?  They lost me a little bit there.  But was nice seeing how his relationship with Coulson developed.  I was also genuinely surprised about the way the Skrulls story was told.  I always had certain notions about them going back to the comics.  And in casting Ben Mendelsohn as Talos I had some preconceptions about his character.  Seeing how that aspect of the story went was a nice twist.  And the 90's callbacks were noticeable but they didn't beat you over the head with them.

Where does this movie stand for me in the pantheon of Marvel movies?  It was good, but not great.  I'd place it somewhere in the middle of the pack, and if there's a follow-up film, I think that Captain Marvel's sense of self will be that much better affirmed.

I was actually happy to see the box office numbers were so high.  Between the review bombing on Rotten Tomatoes and calls for a boycott against the movie by the manbaby trolls, it was good to see the movie do so well.  It was a giant middle finger to the guys who are making fandom so toxic.

What gets me so irritated about the current climate is this:  Stan Lee and other Marvel creators who were at the heart of creating the iconic characters born in the 1960's set out with a message that permeated their stories.  Spider-man (and his alter ego, Peter Parker) along with the X-Men, who became some of the most popular characters in the Marvel Universe were the outsiders.  They were people who were different:  Peter Parker was a bookish kid with glasses who was on the small side and bullied by jocks, while the X-Men were born with abilities that made them very different from others, sometimes visually so.  These were very plain metaphors for how our own society treated those who were different.  Kids who were different tended to be drawn to these characters because they gave them a sense of belonging.  Time passed and these characters slowly became part of the mainstream for comics - and evidently, so did the audience, no longer the outsiders.  And with the mainstreaming of that segment of the audience they evidently believe that they are now some sort of gatekeepers to fandom.  I find it troubling to see this, as these self-appointed gatekeepers seem to have forgotten that they and the characters they profess to love were once the outsiders, and now they regard fandom and the IP's as all full, and unable to include characters and fans who might now be regarded as the outsider.

Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: JediJman on March 11, 2019, 03:26 PM
Well put on all of this.  The tribute to Stan was a really nice touch.  We saw the premier, which always seems to have some high audience energy, and people were clapping and cheering for that and Stan's cameo.

Not sure I really get what you're saying in the last paragraph though about outsiders.  Is this based on someone's commentary or review of the film or things you're reading on social media?  My take on characters like Spidey or the X-Men has always been less about their abnormality and more about how you should strive to do the right thing no matter what life throws at you.  Spiderman was on the fame and fortune track and it cost him his uncle.  He could have gone that route numerous times, but lives a fairly humble life dedicated to helping others.  The X-Men are referred to as the next evolution of the species, but they work to protect humanity.  They're often forced to defend the same people would persecute them, but the vision of the strong using their power to protect the weak never waivers. 

These characters are a constant reminder to live the best life you can.  Don't take the easy way out.  Sacrificing for others is its own reward.  Let's be real - they were catering to their audience to a large extent.  The kid reading comics was more likely to be the brainy science kid with glasses than the high school quarterback, so showing the outsiders with abilities and control was self serving for the readers.  But there are also strong messages of acceptance and honor and morals that are needed now more than ever. 
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 11, 2019, 03:37 PM
Took the family to see Captain Marvel this weekend and thought it was great.  Was a little disappointed with the Mar Vell character, but that's because I have the comic where he dies of cancer because of the negabands that gave him his powers.  That was a very powerful issue when I was a kid.


By far, Goose is the best part of the movie!   ;D
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: I Am Sith on March 11, 2019, 06:34 PM
Saw it yesterday with the family.  While I loved the soundtrack and generally liked the movie, I didn't love it like I have a lot of its MCU predecessors.  I did like having Coulson back on the big screen and liked how Ronan's character was introduced, but it just didn't keep me engaged enough overall.  I'm hoping that the sequel connects this movie and where we find things in GOTG.

Not sure if this is a spoiler or not, so I'll preface the next part anyway...



What I'm really hoping is answered at some point, is how the tesseract ends up going from Howard Stark's possession to Mar Vell's possession.  In The Avengers, Fury tells Cap that Howard found it at the bottom of the ocean when he was looking for Cap.  So was Howard involved in Pegasus then, and that's how the tesseract changed hands?  That seemed like a pretty big plot hole to me, more than people complaining about the pager and it's lack of use in previous Avengers films...
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Nicklab on March 11, 2019, 07:25 PM
What I'm really hoping is answered at some point, is how the tesseract ends up going from Howard Stark's possession to Mar Vell's possession.  In The Avengers, Fury tells Cap that Howard found it at the bottom of the ocean when he was looking for Cap.  So was Howard involved in Pegasus then, and that's how the tesseract changed hands?  That seemed like a pretty big plot hole to me, more than people complaining about the pager and it's lack of use in previous Avengers films...

I don't know that it's a plot hole.  All we knew about the Tesseract was that Howard Stark found it at the bottom of the ocean around 1945 and then we saw it again in 2011 in the end credits scene for the first Thor movie.  That's a sizable gap in time where we didn't know the whereabouts of the Tesseract.  There has barely been any of the time period between the events of the first Captain America movie and Iron Man explored by the MCU until now.  There were a couple of flashback scenes between Ant-Man and Civil War, but those were about those particular story lines, not the Tesseract.

The one bit of Tesseract related lore that comes to mind is Tony Stark's quest in Iron Man 2 as laid out by Howard Stark.  Howard seems to have studied the Tesseract enough to have an inkling about the makeup of the cube and how its molecular composition might provide him with an element that might become a new type of power source, but one that he was incapable of making in his own time.  That aside, it's interesting to see how the Tesseract might have slipped out of the control of SHIELD over the course of 65 years.
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Post by: Pete_Fett on March 11, 2019, 07:52 PM
What I'm really hoping is answered at some point, is how the tesseract ends up going from Howard Stark's possession to Mar Vell's possession.  In The Avengers, Fury tells Cap that Howard found it at the bottom of the ocean when he was looking for Cap.  So was Howard involved in Pegasus then, and that's how the tesseract changed hands?  That seemed like a pretty big plot hole to me, more than people complaining about the pager and it's lack of use in previous Avengers films...

Howard Stark was directly involved in Project Pegasus. The Project Pegasus facility was the one blown up at the beginning of the first Avengers movie. This movie takes place after The Winter Soldier killed Howard Stark. So it's reasonable to assume that the Tesseract was left in the possession of Project Pegasus when Howard Stark was killed and Mar-Vell was sent to Earth by the Supreme Intelligence to acquire it and figure out how to use it as an energy source that could be used to help the Kree win their war against the Skrulls.

With regards to the pager, the ONLY movie where that's a problem is the first Avengers movie since a giant portal in space/time opened up and an alien race came pouring through. Why not call her then? The only logical explanation I can come up with is that Fury knew Carol's powers were from the Tesseract so perhaps he wanted to avoid having two like-powered entities on the field? Alternatively, since we're re-visiting the Battle of New York in Avengers: Endgame, have a quick scene which shows Fury contemplate using the pager at a moment when the battle seemed to be going against the Avengers, but then when the Avengers turn the tide, he puts in back into his pocket. Plot hole solved.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: EdSolo on March 12, 2019, 07:02 AM
I would say the easiest answer for the tesseract changing hands are the Skrull.  Anyone of them could have infiltrated Stark's facility and made off with it.  We really don't know how long the Skrull were living on the hidden labratory.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Diddly on March 17, 2019, 01:51 PM
Had a chance to see Captain Marvel over the weekend. I echo the "good but not great" sentiment. Took a while to get going I thought.
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Post by: McMetal on March 21, 2019, 09:35 PM
Finally saw Captain Marvel yesterday and thought it was terrific. A+ for me all the way. I tend to enjoy the more offbeat Marvel movies anyway, like Ant Man and GOTG, and I love the intergalactic storylines, so this checked all the boxes for me.

I feel like Ronan looked sillier without the trademark eye shadow, couldn’t even tell if it was the same actor.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: P-Siddy on December 11, 2020, 11:33 AM
Just read about "Black Panther 2" and how they won't be replacing Chadwick Boseman in the role.  I agree that it would be hard for someone to fill Chadwick's shoes because he made the role, but I wonder what Marvel will do for the movie.  Bring in an heir to assume the Black Panther role, shift the focus to Shuri and/or Nakia.  Would Killmonger (somehow) do a cheat-death return?  Lots of questions that will get answered as the release gets closer.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jeff on February 14, 2024, 12:02 PM
Happy Valentine’s Day from Marvel’s First Family! (https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1757796892455694452) Pedro Pascal, Vanessa Kirby, Ebon Moss-Bachrach, and Joseph Quinn are The Fantastic Four.

Marvel Studios' #TheFantasticFour, in theaters July 25, 2025.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGTy458bAAAf6ol.jpg)
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 14, 2024, 04:42 PM
I think it's a mistake not using John Krazinski, but ok.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: McMetal on February 14, 2024, 05:54 PM
Wow, was not expecting this. I’m not so familiar with Vanessa, but I love those other three. She certainly looks the part though.

As much as I love Pedro in pretty much everything, I just don’t see him as Mr Fantastic. But I’ll be open minded as he has a pretty wide range.
Title: Re: Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Brian on February 15, 2024, 10:57 AM
I’m so excited to see some real forward progress on the F4 joining the MCU, can’t wait. I like everyone in this cast, so I’m hopeful. With all of their castings, I pretty much trust Marvel. I can’t really think of a single character of theirs that I look at and go “wow, they really missed that one”. Most have been spot on, and many have become iconic in their roles.