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Title: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jesse James on September 6, 2004, 01:26 AM
So what do you think Hasbro's gonna do about Clones this go-round?

From what I'm aware of, the Clone's body doesn't change at all (does it?) but the helmet becomes a hybrid of a Stormie's and Clone's... 

I'm very anxious to see what kind of Clones are available to us at retail with the next movie.  THe last was disappointing to me, on all levels.

The 3-packs weren't poseable and felt relatively "cheap" to me...  The original Clones (all of them) were pre-posed, had articulation with really no use, and the Clone Pilot had that damned lean to it.

The SA Clone is a great figure, but obviously so horribly limited...  Will it ever see the light of day in #'s that would satiate the masses?  We may  never see it again, sadly, for whatever illogical reason Hasbro could give us.

So will E3 be as big a flop for Clones?  I'm hoping not...  I'm hoping we see simply the SA Clone with a new head.  Hell I'd take it with the old head too, but the new Head as well...  Maybe pack both heads in even, I don't know.

I just hope we SEE this figure, and not a pre-posed wonder like the last film showed us.

I wont' even begin on the Biker Clone...  Yeck!
Title: Re: Clones.....
Post by: Vator on September 6, 2004, 11:26 AM
From what Hasbro has said, we need not worry about Clones this time. That to me is a good sign.

Here's hoping for around 300 troops by this time next year!
Title: Re: Clones.....
Post by: jokabofe on September 6, 2004, 01:37 PM
i'll be lucky to find 5. i don't care what hasbro says, they can never make enough.
Title: Re: Clones.....
Post by: SilverZ on September 8, 2004, 03:47 AM
From what Hasbro has said, we need not worry about Clones this time. That to me is a good sign.

Here's hoping for around 300 troops by this time next year!

I hope you're right, but my personal opinion is that everything that comes out of the mouth of Hasbro is what you'd expect to come out of their asses. We damn well shouldn't have to worry about clones. But I ain't counting on it coming true.

Totally agree with Jesse that the 3-pack clones felt cheap, but since we also got the SA Clone to balance it out, I found them to be great filler. They looked great riding in the Gunship as background clones while the SA Clones served as "hero" figures for me to pose. I'd be up for another batch of these if done in conjunction with:

At least one type of revised SA Clone. There's no excuse for not retooling that figure. That should be a Wave 1 release. If anything to run the risk of overordering/producing at movie release time, this is the figure. Instead we'll probably see a million Tion Meddons, who looks like a pegwarmer as a preview figure even before he's announced/finished sculpting. "Helpful Alien" indeed. Helpful at clogging the shelves.  ::) Nice robes. Did Lucasfilm buy some Star Trek costumes off eBay?

Also a Commander Cody. It bugs me to no end they've failed to give us a removable helmet clone done properly (speederbike one doesn't even get consideration).

That Art of Revenge pic up at the OS points toward some cool EU-ish clones. Those would be neat, too.
Title: Re: Clones.....
Post by: Vator on September 8, 2004, 11:50 AM
Pardon me for being optimistic...

At anyrate, we're going to see tons of Clones in the movie of several different styles. So, here's to hoping, eh?
Title: Re: Clones.....
Post by: Jesse James on September 8, 2004, 03:56 PM
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Totally agree with Jesse that the 3-pack clones felt cheap, but since we also got the SA Clone to balance it out, I found them to be great filler.

I agree that with a SA version they're not so bad...  The price and everything balancing out.

The problem being that, as ya mentioned, Hasbro's shite at giving us the GOOD figure and experts at giving the crappy ones.  I'm hoping, as Vator is, that things are the other way... 

Optomistic's something I abandoned a while back I guess though.  Hasbro's proven they don't do what's most logical to us, and what would push sales.

SA Clones?  There's not a sole out there who could tell me those would ever "back up" at retail.  They'd always move steadily...  The demand there is only finite in conjunction with the finances of the buyer.  I think most SA army builders would be that way really...  There's rare exceptions, but the Clone wouldn't be one of them.

The 3-packs though are nice if they do have a SA counterpart that's easy to find, and in multiples.  Hell, pack ONE SA figure in with 2 pre-posed in the 3-pack.  Save a little tooling costs.  Still card one individually.  I'd still buy the 3-packs then.

I'd do that with all army builders if they just did that one, easily available SA army builder as well. 

I think that translates to core characters too.  You give me that one nice SA Obi-Wan and I'll take 3 pre-posed with expressions that represent a single scene as well.  And ya know I'd even be happy to do so.  :) 

VOTC Han, to me, improves Death Star Escape Han in my eyes 100%.  Suddenly DSE Han's pretty damn cool because VOTC Han's everything I want for a "playable" figure and DSE Han will look kick-ass on a shelf made to look like the Death Star.

SA shouldn't kill the pre-posed figures, it should just make them complements to the SA figure.  Poses you can't get out of that figure.
Title: Re: Clones.....
Post by: Morgbug on September 8, 2004, 10:13 PM
Is it possible to be cynical and optimistic at the same time? 

I think we'll see tons of clones.  Absolutely tons.  This is the last time that Hasbro and George have a truly valid opportunity to ram toys down our throats without mercy.  And we'll buy them, yes we will.  Sadly, I think we'll see the same pre-posed stuff from the last movie a la clonetrooper. 

I'd love to see something like the SA, but I'd be pleased as hell to get something with relatively neutral poses like basic stormies.  What I expect....
Title: Re: Clones.....
Post by: speedermike on September 9, 2004, 12:43 PM
"Is it possible to be cynical and optimistic at the same time?"

I think that's called being a realist. 
Title: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: CHEWIE on November 9, 2004, 07:15 PM
Haven't seen anything posted yet on the SA Clonetrooper mock up that has surfaced - yeah it's the Clone Wars Clonetrooper, but is this being re-released?

Was this a mockup for the EP3 Clonetrooper without the helmet updated yet?

If they re-release this body for a Clonetrooper and have it as a mass release, I forsee some gigantic Clone armies for a lot of us!!

Any news?

 :P
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Broem on November 9, 2004, 09:23 PM
Yes, I missed getting this figure.  I am hoping they send them out again for ROTS.  I would be surprised if they did not capitalize on all things clonetrooper related. 
Title: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 9, 2005, 11:06 AM
So far we have the following:

#6 White Plain
#33 Clone Commander (Commander Thire (??), Fights Under Stass Allie (??))
#34 Clone Pilot (Coruscant aka Odd Ball)
#37 AT-TE Gunner
#41 White Plain with Backpack
#49 Commander Bacarra (Fights Under Ki-Adi Mundi)
#54 Turbo Tank Driver (very similar to the AT-RT Driver)

Misc Others
AT-RT Driver
Barc Rider (Kasshyyk)
Neyo Grunt Trooper (Target Exclusive)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/bly.jpg)
Commander Bly (Fights under Aayla Secura on Felucia, Evolutions 3 Pack...This could possibly be one of Bly's Grunts but it has not been confirmed, a more colored version appears in the film)

So...We still Need These Guys:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/cody.jpg)
Commander Cody (Fights Under Obi-Wan on Utapau)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/neyo.jpg)
Commander Neyo (Fights Under ??? on ???)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/gree.jpg)
Commander Gree (Fights Under Yoda on Kashyyk)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/appo.jpg)
Commader Appo (Fights Under Darth Vader on Coruscant)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/fox.jpg)
Commander Fox (Fights Under ??? on ???)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/kasshyyk%20grunt.jpg)
Green Grunt (Fights Under Gree)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/coruscant%20trooper.jpg)
Red Shock Trooper

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/blueclone.jpg)
Blue Shock Trooper

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/barc.jpg)
Barc Trooper (Regular Version)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/vwing.jpg)
V-Wing Pilot

Not sure who fights with Plo Koon (I would guess a V-Wing Pilot although there are rumors to the contrary) and if there are Clones with Mace at the Beginning of the movie or who is with Stass Allie...

Lots of questions still as to who is where and what arrangements are final but a lot of the stuff has been confirmed.  There is a design with brownish circles that hasn't really been shown anywhere other than a small shot in the Insider

Right now I think I really want Gree and Cody...and I want them a lot!  Probably at the top of my ROTS wishlist
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Brian on May 9, 2005, 11:16 AM
Nice topic (and pics) Scott.  I'm with you, I really hope we see several more of these made, and Cody, Gree, and Appo are top on my list.  Although it does seem like a way to sell more toys (having multi-flavored clones), a lot of them do look pretty neat to me, and I do hope we see them at some point.  Maybe some of these will be included in #'s 57 and up, if we see waves later this year.  At the rate these have been coming out (up to 44 now in many areas), you would think we'd be seeing new waves by fall.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 9, 2005, 11:46 AM
About the question marks under the posted pictures:

That first picture you posted is not Commander Bly, but it is one of his grunts.  Bly has macrobinoculars, as well as a yellow painted breath filter and yellow painted thigh armor.

Commander Neyo fights on Kashyyyk as well as Commander Gree.

Commander Fox is on Coruscant along with Commander Appo.

About the picture you posted as Commander Appo, what differentiates Appo from the armor of the other special ops troops during the Temple Raid?
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 9, 2005, 11:54 AM
I don't think anything differentiates the 501st Members that I can see

RE: Bly picture...that is what the Visual Dictionary called that guy, so I'm not sure what EU source to believe yet on that.  I can see from a consitency standpoint that the More Colored and armored members are the Commanders but we'll see if that is confirmed

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/jay12501/episode3aaylasecuraandclones.jpg)


There is also a picture circling of what appears to be Comm Fox on Utapau but again unconfirmed so I'll leave that one a mystery

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/KSC2-303/clonesfox.jpg)

Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: CHEWIE on May 9, 2005, 12:01 PM
Wow that's a lot of stuff... almost too much for me.  Anyone else having Clone overload?

 :P
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 9, 2005, 12:12 PM
Wow that's a lot of stuff... almost too much for me.  Anyone else having Clone overload?

 :P

Yeah - me as well - seems a little TOO odd that we go from so much individuality and allowed variation in armor markings to faceless soldiers of the Empire. I guess the idea might be to show that the Jedi allowed the Clones to develop their own individualities and when the Emperor takes over, he takes that away from them, so even though they are used to control the empire even they have lost something.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 9, 2005, 12:47 PM
This is a spoiler question (so a "yes" or "no" with no explanation will do just fine), but is Order 66 just an order that Palpatine gives or is it some kind of post-hypnotic suggestion type thing that simultaneously gives the final order to eliminate the Jedi and brings all the Clones under his direct and total control? 

I've always wondered if it was the latter, since by the time of the OT, all the originality and distinct armor styles for individual troops was nonexistent; making them total subservient automatons would pretty much wipe out that need for individualized armor and identities.

That Clone guy with Yoda is awesome looking; he'd be my first choice for a figure.  Cody would be cool too, mainly since he was seen in the CW cartoon first, and it's always nice to see a CW character tie into the films (at least for me, Grievous will be a CW character who went into the movies, rather than the other way around).  I really wish that Hasbro would just ship the hell out of either the #6 or #41 Clone (if only the latter didn't have that antenna) and keep repainting them until they've exhausted all options for grunts.  Needless to say, this won't happen, as Clones apparently don't sell as well as constantly reshipped Obi-Wans and Anakins and Yodas (I guess that's why I see so many of the latter and none of the former hanging around these days).

Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jesse James on May 9, 2005, 04:10 PM
I think Clones are needing a multi-pack at this point...  Large box sets of multi-colored grunts, and an officers set too.  And ya know it'd sell like crazy.

Great topic Scott, love all the pictures and this hashes a lot out that I have been confused on.  Someone was trying to build a Commander Cody in customizing and I couldn't picture who the hell he was.  Now I know.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Darth Broem on May 9, 2005, 04:12 PM
I really want the blue ones that Anakin marches into the Temple with.  The orange one with Palpatine hologram.  And that green one with Yoda. 
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 9, 2005, 04:19 PM
Commanders Gree and Cody are a MUST.

As are the Blue and Red Shocktrooper versions.

Bly isn't really an issue IMHO 'cause he is VERY similar to the yellow clone commander coming in the Evolutions 3-pack.

Where it gets tricky (and less likely we'll see figures) are where the helmets are DRASTICALLY different then the regular grunts. Like Commanders Fox and Neyo. I'm kinda puzzled by the looks of their helments.

I can understand the Jedi allowing the clone commanders to assert their identity, but it just doesn't seem feasible that they would also receive custom helmets. Making colored variants is easy, you can almost imagine them sitting around waiting for action and then each legion painting on their own markings - but a completely differently molded helmet?
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Gatillo on May 9, 2005, 05:14 PM
AAHHHHH, I got brain freeze from the clone overload. :-\

But there is a better chance of gas going down to 25 cents/gallon than Hasbro making all those clones.  I would change my name to Susan :P if Hasbro even makes half of them.

Gatillo
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nathan on May 9, 2005, 05:19 PM
That's a fantastic list and collection of pictures, Scott.

Although all of them should be made eventually, my first picks would be
-- Cmdr Cody (originally I didn't like the added visor but it's grown on me)
-- Cmdr Fox
-- Green-striped grunt
-- red Coruscant shock trooper
and fan favorite
-- Cmdr Appo

I'm not a fan of the camo troopers since they seem to go against the design logic of the OT. (The green-armored officer is Commander Gree. Har har. ::))

And Pete, from my very brief flip through the VisDic I think it mentioned something about those helmets having different breathing filters for alien environmental conditions. Still doesn't quite explain why only the commanders seem to have them and not their respective grunts....
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jeff on May 9, 2005, 05:22 PM
I don't really care if we get all the Clones with the pretty paint schemes.  As otheres have said, it's not too hard to paint/repaint clones yourself.  Just find the right shade of paint and a #6 or #41 Clone and you're off!

What I would like to see though are all the unique Clone Commanders - those with the different helmets/armor designs, like #33 and Bacarra.  I'm glad we're getting Bly in the Evolutions set and I'd like to see Commander Cody and the other Commanders too.

Jeff
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Diddly on May 9, 2005, 05:48 PM
I hope we get Cody, we're getting a Bacarra fig, and he plays around the same role as Cody.

While I'd personally like to see a figure of each type made (they did this with Imperials), I would like the leaders more. I know I would only need one of each. But then again, they'll probably give us the colored shock troopers next year when retail is clogged with the Anakins and Obi-Wans, like in 2003. ::)

Unless they made a case of Clones and only Clones...
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 9, 2005, 08:12 PM
I think they can safely pump out 5-6 of these guys a year.  Really, we have pretty good OT Troops (I guess I'll take a new Scout and Snow and Gunner) but these have been selling like crazy and people seem to be going nuts over them

Gree and Cody are at the top of my list but the blue 501st are also right up there as me wantees
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Darby on May 9, 2005, 08:51 PM
I hope they do them all, but Cody is a must, as is Gree.  I find it odd they didn't lead out with color variations, since they did it with the royal guard. 
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Paul on May 9, 2005, 09:46 PM
Wow Great Topic Scott!!!!

While I can see how some people could get Clone Burn Out, this is the treatment I always wanted the OT Army Builders to get...and this is my first PT movie to get figures from.

I'll just list the preference of the ones listed in order:

BARC trooper (do I even need to mention he needs the Super Articulation treatment)

Commander Cody (his helmet is my favorite "Commander" helmet)

Neyo (need him to lead the Target troops)

V Wing Pilot (the current Pilot is missing something with the painted face)

Cmdr Appo (or his 501st Trooper)

Cmdr Gree (or his Trooper)

Red Shock Trooper

Cmdr Fox (this is my least Favorite Cmdr Helmet, which is like saying it is my least favorite Supermodel to ......well lets just say somebody had to be last, but I would take them over any Jedi any day)

I think Clones are needing a multi-pack at this point... Large box sets of multi-colored grunts, and an officers set too. And ya know it'd sell like crazy.

Like the TRu multi-packs?  I'd like to see something more along the lines of the TRU GI JOE 6 Packs (but with much better execution) they had multiple weapons per figure, usually 1 Officer and 5 Army Builder types.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Darth Broem on May 10, 2005, 08:05 AM
Personally I hope that Hasbro decides to make the V-Wing with a pilot.  But I doubt that will happen. 
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 10, 2005, 09:42 AM
Personally I hope that Hasbro decides to make the V-Wing with a pilot.  But I doubt that will happen. 

I'm hoping for this as well. They need a vehicle like the V-Wing to refresh the Assault (Mid-size) vehicle assortment - the Plo Koon old-school Jedi Starfighter just doesn't cut it in my book.

I wouldn't mind if they put out a wave that was Obi-Wan's Blue Jedi Starfighter (the one he takes to Utapau) and the V-Wing - one new vehicle, one re-painted vehicle.

I would also prefer that (based on past pack-in figures) that they NOT pack a V-Wing pilot in with the fighter and release him as a SA individually carded figure.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nicklab on May 10, 2005, 02:42 PM
Not sure who fights with Plo Koon (I would guess a V-Wing Pilot although there are rumors to the contrary) and if there are Clones with Mace at the Beginning of the movie or who is with Stass Allie...

There's a shot out there of Plo Koon in the cockpit of a fighter with a couple of ARC-170's behind him, Scott.  You might want to do a google image search for Plo Koon.

Like so:

(http://img256.echo.cx/img256/7290/2642757ot.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 10, 2005, 02:54 PM
I just wanted to chime in here and say that the cockpit that Plo Koon is sitting in in Nick's photo appears to be from one of the ROTS-style Jedi Starfighters and not one of the AOTC style Jedi Starfighters.  The "Making of" book actually has photos of animatics of this scene, and Plo's flying a ROTS style Jedi SF there as well.  At first I wrote off the difference, saying it was an animatic and wasn't a finished shot, but now I'm not so sure.

It seems like either:

1.  LFL screwed up and while we'll see the interior of a ROTS fighter, it will be an AOTC fighter for the exteriors.

or

2.  Hasbro screwed up and didn't think it necessary to correct their mistake.

Very curious.  I guess we won't know until May 19th what the real Plo Koon JSF is.   :-\

Back to the Clones and, particularly, who serves under Stass Allie: didn't Hasbro update with photos of that deluxe wave (with Allie and the Speeder Bike) a few weeks ago, and include something about the planet she was on with the bike?  I'm trying not to look too closely at things at this point, but those of you more knowledgable as to the individual planets the Clones are on might be able to start there.

Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 10, 2005, 03:28 PM
So, I wonder if the V-Wing actually appears anywhere?
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nathan on May 10, 2005, 03:37 PM
1.  LFL screwed up and while we'll see the interior of a ROTS fighter, it will be an AOTC fighter for the exteriors.

From what I understand, this is the case. And I gather there is some significance to his using the AOTC-style Delta-7 fighter instead of the new Eta-2, but I don't know and don't want to either.

So, I wonder if the V-Wing actually appears anywhere?

It is in the ROTS Incredible Cross-Sections and also visible flanking the shuttle at the beginning of the trailer. Essentially it resembles a scaled-down Delta-7 with the side wings from the Sith Infiltrator or Eta-2 Jedi fighter.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jeff on May 10, 2005, 03:43 PM
I don't know if he's a "Clone" or not, but I wouldn't mind seeing one of the Courcscant Firefighters...

http://starwars.com/databank/organization/coruscantfirefighter/

(http://starwars.com/databank/organization/coruscantfirefighter/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Famine on May 10, 2005, 04:17 PM
I'm already starting a custom of one of those.

Kevin
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: ruiner on May 10, 2005, 05:50 PM
I say, the more clones, the merrier.

Just like women.   :P

Seriously, I'm a sucker for different paint schemes - the clone commander is one of my favorite figures so far (no#41's yet) just because he's different from the generic clonie.

Though I do think it's kind of stupid that GL has decided to go the Skittle route with these prequel troopers...what happened to the ranks in the OT?

Was there too much tension between the superiors and cronies? 

"Hey, were exactly the same, what makes you better than me?  Why do you get the cool red armor and I get stuck with this piece of **** lame-o white crap?!"

Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Vator on May 10, 2005, 06:14 PM
I honestly don't have much to add other than that I'm more than o.k. with getting more Clones. My only protest would of course be that we don't need them one right after another. It's just to expensive to army build like that and, honestly, takes away some of the fun.

That said I think we're due a lot of Clones...especially in the form of mulitpacks. Just mass-market SA Clones in a simple box with 4 figures and sell it for $20. They'll fly off the shelves constantly. Every month or so, make a variant on paint schemes and send out 2 cases of the new clones. Then send out 1 mixed case. You get the idea.

This Army Building Pack line could include the rest of the movies aswell, with Stormtroopers (ANH) and then later down the line ROTJ style Stormtroopers. Make an officers pack, make a Rebel Fleet Trooper pack, hell make an Ewok pack. They'll all sell, and collectors will be happy to be getting quality Army Builders at resonable prices (unlike the Target Clone  ::)).
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nathan on May 10, 2005, 06:16 PM
^ But that could not possibly be done. It would be far too sensible. ::)
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Paul on May 10, 2005, 08:10 PM
And kids don't buy Army builders and this line is driven by the kids, we collectors only make up 20% of the purchasers of Star Wars, just ask the Big H, they have a Chart and Graph and a business Degree that they obviously traded for using Jedi Master Points as tuition...

Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: jokabofe on May 10, 2005, 08:32 PM
It would be awesome if they made some small little box sets of a Clone Commander and then like 4 of his personal troops, wouldn't it? I'd be all over something like that.

There's what, like 6 Clone Commanders or something like that? Maybe more?
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 10, 2005, 09:10 PM
I believe so far there have been 8 sort of identified...

Commander Cody
Commander Bly
Commander Gree
Commander Bacarra
Commander Neyo
Commander Appo
Commander Fox
Commander Thire

Bly (sort of), Thire and Bacarra have been done already. 
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: jokabofe on May 11, 2005, 01:26 AM
I believe so far there have been 8 sort of identified...

Commander Cody
Commander Bly
Commander Gree
Commander Bacarra
Commander Neyo
Commander Appo
Commander Fox
Commander Thire

Bly (sort of), Thire and Bacarra have been done already. 

Which one is Commander Thire?
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 11, 2005, 07:09 AM
Which one is Commander Thire?

My guess is that he and Bly share the same armor design except Thire has selected "Red" as his coloring of choice and Bly (as is pictured at the start of this thread) selected "Yellow".

The Evolutions 3-Pack also technically has a Commander Bly in it - unless Bly takes his helmet off and has a huge scar or something, the yellow version of the Clone Commander basic figure that is in the Clone/Stormtrooper Evolutions set could easily serve as his figure.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jeff on May 11, 2005, 10:50 AM
I guess we can cross these guys off the list...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/kasshyyk%20grunt.jpg)
Green Grunt (Fights Under Gree)

And the other two in this picture:

http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/4447-001.jpg

Looks like they are coming in the Deluxe 3-pack of Clones...

Jeff
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 11, 2005, 01:42 PM
Well, yes and no. The 3-pack clones are too static to really be considered action figures. I'll hold out for the SA clone repaint.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: evenflow on May 11, 2005, 02:09 PM
You know I am not a fan of all the repaints usually, but i am actually enjoying all the different clones.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Darth Broem on May 11, 2005, 02:13 PM
Me to.  Those EE exclusive clones are still calling my name.  I won't be able to get all of the clone variants but it would be nice to.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 11, 2005, 02:24 PM
Note in the GH Preview of the SA Clone that they indicate Hasbro told them paint variants were in the works for #41.  I don't really care for these 3 packs either :-\
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jeff on May 11, 2005, 02:28 PM
Note in the GH Preview of the SA Clone that they indicate Hasbro told them paint variants were in the works for #41.  I don't really care for these 3 packs either :-\

Yeah!  Another example of "take a hard to find figure and make it even harder to find"!  Way to go Hasbro!  Now just make sure that the re-painted #41 is only 1-per-case to really screw us...   ::)

Go ahead and give us some paint variants on #38 AT-TE Gunner too while you're at it...
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Darth Broem on May 11, 2005, 02:35 PM
Note in the GH Preview of the SA Clone that they indicate Hasbro told them paint variants were in the works for #41.  I don't really care for these 3 packs either :-\

I hope so that would be fantastic! 
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Famine on May 11, 2005, 02:45 PM
Yeah!  Another example of "take a hard to find figure and make it even harder to find"!  Way to go Hasbro!  Now just make sure that the re-painted #41 is only 1-per-case to really screw us...   ::)

Go ahead and give us some paint variants on #38 AT-TE Gunner too while you're at it...


Jeff, shut up and quit givin' em ideas, yeesh! ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Darby on May 11, 2005, 03:06 PM
They should do a yellow (mustard?) version of the Clone Commander, because I don't think the Evolutions one comes with a visor.  Or does he?  Can't remember.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jeff on May 11, 2005, 03:11 PM
They should do a yellow (mustard?) version of the Clone Commander, because I don't think the Evolutions one comes with a visor.  Or does he?  Can't remember.

The Evolutions Clone does not come with a visor because he is supposed to be Commander Bly:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0630.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/bly.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nathan on May 11, 2005, 03:27 PM
In the Hyperspace Reversal of Fortune webstrip Bly has the visor, and even in grayscale you can sometimes see the additional shading on the chin.

http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/member/webstrips/reversal/img/137.jpg

http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/member/webstrips/reversal/img/102.jpg
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 11, 2005, 03:40 PM
I think we can say its an EU issue and we won't know until he specifically identified as Commander Cody by Lucasfilm on the Website (IMO is the closest source to EU confirmations we can get) 
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nicklab on May 11, 2005, 07:52 PM
So, I wonder if the V-Wing actually appears anywhere?

Yes.  They escort the Theta class shuttle from Mustafar to Coruscant.  And as previously noted, you can see them in the full length trailer.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 18, 2005, 12:25 PM
So, who's going to be keeping track of Clones tomorrow?  I know its something I'll be paying a little more attention to than I should :)
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Paul on May 19, 2005, 08:20 AM
A question on the Pilots (and I may get my answer at 6:30 tonight....)

Is the Gunship Pilot, the same as the ARC Pilot and the same as the V-Wing Pilot?  As far as uniforms/helmets go? 
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: jokabofe on May 19, 2005, 08:57 AM
OK, after seeing the movie, I can't really see Hasbro making too many of the different colored Clones. Why? Because outside of 1 or 2, they appear on screen for so short a period of time, it would be pointless. Kinda disappointing, to be honest.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 19, 2005, 09:20 AM
OK, after seeing the movie, I can't really see Hasbro making too many of the different colored Clones. Why? Because outside of 1 or 2, they appear on screen for so short a period of time, it would be pointless. Kinda disappointing, to be honest.

The clones that got the most screen time were: Blue Shocktroopers, Commander Cody's forces and Commander Gree's forces.

So I think when we're getting Commander Baccara who was a "blink and you miss him" commander, I think Cody and Gree are no brainers.

We do need a regular version of the BARC Trooper 'cause that uniform was all over, not just riding in BARC speeders.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Famine on May 19, 2005, 11:19 AM
I want one of the grey and white troops. Nifty, they were.

Kevin
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on May 19, 2005, 12:25 PM
I'm guessing that cmmdr cody is the orange colored clones with Obi-wan? He's a must have.
I like the blue troopers who confront Bail Organna.
And I never actually saw the Clone Commander like the toy. I'm sure it was a blink and miss but when I see Sith again I'll pay more attention.
The green clone with yoda - Cmmdr Gree I supposse, he's 'alright' but not a must-have for me.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Morgbug on May 19, 2005, 02:36 PM
OK, after seeing the movie, I can't really see Hasbro making too many of the different colored Clones. Why? Because outside of 1 or 2, they appear on screen for so short a period of time, it would be pointless. Kinda disappointing, to be honest.

Yeah, we've never seen figures of characters that appear on screen for only a second or two :P ;)  We almost certainly never clamour for them either. 

And certainly Hasbro doesn't make those figures *cough*Mon Mothma-Polis Massan*cough*

I was definitely watching and one thought I had recurring throughout the film (though it's been in place since seeing the Spectacular at C3) is that this film is a Hasbro marketing fantasy come true.  How many different versions of clones were there?  15? 20? 30? :o
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Gregorbian on May 19, 2005, 03:31 PM
Anybody have any good reference shots of the snowtroopers that were with Ki-Adi-Mundi?  He might have been a Commander, but he definitely had a version of the Snow Trooper helmet  ;D
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: jokabofe on May 19, 2005, 05:05 PM
I think that is actually Commander Baccara (or however you spell it) - his helmet kinda looks like that of a Snowtrooper from the picture on the Hasbro poster.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Gregorbian on May 19, 2005, 05:15 PM
Maybe that was what I saw....I could have sworn it was a snowtrooper helmet though :(
There was so much going on at all times, it was hard to take in!  I guess I'll just have to give Mr. Lucas some more of my $$$ :P
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Darby on May 19, 2005, 08:51 PM
There are a few red snowtrooper type guys with Bacarra, but like everything else it's blink and you miss it.  I would like one of these, since the snowtroopers were my favorites.  I think the yellow CC (no red one?), Cody, and Gree are absolute no brainers, and the blue and orange clones too.  Everything else will be gravy.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Gregorbian on May 19, 2005, 10:35 PM
There are a few red snowtrooper type guys with Bacarra, but like everything else it's blink and you miss it.  I would like one of these, since the snowtroopers were my favorites.  I think the yellow CC (no red one?), Cody, and Gree are absolute no brainers, and the blue and orange clones too.  Everything else will be gravy.
cool, they should definitely make 'em all! :P
I really want some super-articulated BARC Troopers now that I've seen 'em in action. 
And if those were snowtroopers, does anybody have any good reference pics yet? winky face  ;)
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 19, 2005, 11:06 PM
Update...

So far we have the following:

#6 White Plain
#33 Clone Commander (Commander Thire Cut???)
#34 Clone Pilot (Coruscant aka Odd Ball)
#37 AT-TE Gunner
#41 White Plain with Backpack
#49 Commander Bacarra (Fights Under Ki-Adi Mundi on ???)
#54 Turbo Tank Driver (very similar to the AT-RT Driver Kashyyk)

Misc Others
AT-RT Driver (Kashyyk)
Barc Rider (Kasshyyk)
Neyo Grunt Trooper (Target Exclusive) (Fights Under Stass Allie on ???)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/bly.jpg)
Commander Bly Grunt

So...We still Need These Guys:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/cody.jpg)
Commander Cody (Fights Under Obi-Wan on Utapau)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/neyo.jpg)
Commander Neyo (Fights Under Stass Allie on ???)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/gree.jpg)
Commander Gree (Fights Under Yoda on Kashyyk)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/appo.jpg)
Commader Appo? (Fights Under Darth Vader on Coruscant)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/fox.jpg)
Commander Fox? (Fights Under Obi-Wan on Utapau)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/kasshyyk%20grunt.jpg)
Green Grunt (Fights Under Yoda on Kashyyk)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/coruscant%20trooper.jpg)
Red Shock Trooper (Under Palpatine on Coruscant and Mustafar)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/blueclone.jpg)
Blue Shock Trooper (Under Appo on Coruscant)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/barc.jpg)
Barc Trooper (Regular Version Under Yoda and Luminara Unduli on Kashyyk)

Yellowish/Orange Clone
(Fights under Obi-Wan on Utapau)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/vwing.jpg)
V-Wing Pilot (Not there?)


Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 19, 2005, 11:08 PM
I did not see a Green Colored Trooper nor a V-Wing Pilot nor Commander Thire (aka Clone #33)

Also, it appears Appo may not be a named clone, all of those Blue 501st guys looked the same.  Comm Fox is no more either it would appear as that type was all over Utapau
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nicklab on May 19, 2005, 11:16 PM
That one id'd as Commander Fox looked more like some kind of a Clone Trooper medic.  He was looking over one Clone Trooper, and then advised that "nobody could have survived that fall".  That's the sense I got from watching it.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 19, 2005, 11:19 PM
There were a bunch of him around though, some fighting I believe
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Aucassin on May 20, 2005, 01:19 AM
That one id'd as Commander Fox looked more like some kind of a Clone Trooper medic.  He was looking over one Clone Trooper, and then advised that "nobody could have survived that fall".  That's the sense I got from watching it.

There was also a shot of Fox, or another like him, kneeling over a wounded clone and motioning for someone off-screen. I guessed he was calling for a medic.

As for Thire, I thought I glimpsed a red commander with his helmet off behind Anakin as Obi-Wan is preparing to leave for Utapau. I'm sure it was a commander, but I'm not sure what color his markings were.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jesse James on May 20, 2005, 03:06 AM
There were a bunch of him around though, some fighting I believe

I believe you're right Scott...  When I watched the 2nd time I was focusing on the Utapau troops and most looked identical if not all of them...  I was really hoping for a medic to pop out in the one seen you mentioned though, Aucassin.  It seemed to cut out right at the worst time.  Really was hoping to see that...  If it's a Clone med or what. :)

Trying to ID all those Clones...  That was rough.  I caught the Stass Allie/Target Exclusive though as it appears a lot of people missed them.  Odd because they had an incredibly clear shot of their markings.

I want more Clones, but like the EE Clone sets I'm worried about pricing at this point...  It sorta tanked those sets as far as making them affordable to really amass an army, at least for many people, and I just fear that being the case for all these different divisions of Clones...  As neat as I think all the designs for all the different military fronts may be.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Paul on May 20, 2005, 08:38 AM
That one id'd as Commander Fox looked more like some kind of a Clone Trooper medic.  He was looking over one Clone Trooper, and then advised that "nobody could have survived that fall".  That's the sense I got from watching it.

I got that feeling when watching it too.  It would be neat to have a clone medic, but the Star Wars universe really seems intent on letting Droids be medical Personel.  I mean look what delivered the babies....
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Darth Broem on May 20, 2005, 12:37 PM
After seeing the movie we did not get a real good look at a lot of the clones.  I did see that red shock trooper several times.  I think it gets made since they are with Palpatine at the end of the flick when the Emperor finds Anakin. 

I would like to see a regular Barc trooper made.   I still want the blue shocktrooper or whatever it's called whom march into the Temple with Anakin. 
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 20, 2005, 12:46 PM
I think if we get:

Troopers:
BARC Trooper
Red Shocktrooper
Blue 501st
Yellow/Gold Utapau Trooper
Yellow/Gold Medic aka Commander Fox
Snowtrooper under Bacarra

Commanders:
Commander Bly
Commander Gree
Commander Cody
Commander Neyo

I'd be happy with the Clones and wouldn't need anything else, the rest sort of aren't there or really blink and miss 'em types.  The Reds and the Blues and Gree and Cody are the biggies though and should be done as they figure in the movie and have speaking parts
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 20, 2005, 01:01 PM
Since I don't know the names of these guys (other than Cody, who I remember from the cartoon), I'd just like to say that after seeing the movie (twice so far), I REALLY want the Clone Commander on Kashyyyk and the Stormtroopers with the red markings that follow Palpatine around.

We're getting the Clone Commander (Baccarra) with the dust blinder things on his head later this summer (correct?), but I think that several of these would work well as post-56 figures for later this fall.  At the very least they could/should repaint the 41 Clone for later assortments with the Temple Raid Blue paint scheme, the Utapau orange scheme, and the Palpatine security scheme.  I'd like articulated versions of the color schemes instead of the practically static PVC-esque three packs myself.

Oh, and after seeing the movie, a regular carded BARC Trooper is a must. 

Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 20, 2005, 06:37 PM
Quote
Trying to ID all those Clones...  That was rough.  I caught the Stass Allie/Target Exclusive though as it appears a lot of people missed them.  Odd because they had an incredibly clear shot of their markings.

Neyo and his partner have different helmets than the Target Exclusive clone, though.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/neyo.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nicklab on May 21, 2005, 10:50 AM
Did the second Clone with Neyo have a different helmet or one similar to Commander Neyo's?  That shot with him, Stass Allie and the other clone on BARC Speeders was REALLY quick.  Also, were they on Saleucami?  That wasn't very clear.

The BARC Troopers were awesome.  Especially when they came over the top of that Wroshyr tree limb on Kasshyyyk and started firing on the Droid Army.  Give those guys their rifles and some decent articulation and I'll be pretty happy.

As for the various legions, it seems that the Utapau legion, the troops on Kasshyyyk, the Spec Ops troopers and Shock Troopers got most of the screen time.  The troops on Mygeeto and Felucia got less, and the ones on Cato Neimoidia (the pilots) and Saleucami got the least.

Does it seem strange to anyone that almost ALL of the troops on Kasshyyyk were BARC Troopers?  At least with the exception of Commander Gree, those are the only Clones on Kasshyyyk that I could pick out.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 21, 2005, 01:22 PM
I'm 99% sure that Commander Neyo and his partner had matching helmets... but it was so quick I can't say for sure. And according to StarWars.com, they were at Saleucami with Stass Allie.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Scott on May 21, 2005, 01:57 PM
I'm 99% sure that Commander Neyo and his partner had matching helmets... but it was so quick I can't say for sure. And according to StarWars.com, they were at Saleucami with Stass Allie.
They were the same helmets
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jediknight760071 on May 21, 2005, 02:15 PM
Saleucami? I don't remember seeing Saleucami.

According to the comics I've read (up to #75) Stass Allie wasn't on Saleucami. Quinlan Vos led the attack there under instruction of Oppo Rancisis, with the help of Aayla Secura, K'kruhk, A'Sharad Hett, and a few others.

And it was Bacara looking troops that supported those Jedi.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Aucassin on May 22, 2005, 02:38 AM
Saleucami? I don't remember seeing Saleucami.

According to the comics I've read (up to #75) Stass Allie wasn't on Saleucami. Quinlan Vos led the attack there under instruction of Oppo Rancisis, with the help of Aayla Secura, K'kruhk, A'Sharad Hett, and a few others.

And it was Bacara looking troops that supported those Jedi.

Stass Allie was ordered to go to Saleucami in Reversal of Fortune, the online webstrip.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2005, 11:21 AM
After seeing the film, I'm really hoping we see some more of these clones down the road.  Sure, the color/helmet variations might be stuck in there in many cases just to sell more toys, but I guess they've got me sold.  I'd really like to see some of the Biker Scout-esque troopers on Kashyyyk, as well as the Snowtrooper-type troopers that gunned down Ki Adi.  Also, the "Neyo" clones (with different helmets) taking down Stass Allie, the Utapau yellow/gold clones, and well...all the others that have already been mentioned here (Fox, Cody, Blue 501st, etc.).  Lots of clone goodness.
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: SilverZ on May 29, 2005, 08:36 PM
The OS updated some database entries and there's a better look at Gree:

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/gree/img/eu_bg.jpg)
Gree

Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Nathan on May 30, 2005, 12:23 AM
*shakes head* I'm still irrationally peeved by the green Kashyyyk troopers. It doesn't fit with the design logic of the OT -- we NEVER saw stormtroopers in camo, even in the EU as far as I recall.

I know it shouldn't bug me so much, but it does. :-\
Title: Re: Future Clone Troopers
Post by: Jediknight760071 on May 30, 2005, 12:31 AM
Saleucami? I don't remember seeing Saleucami.

According to the comics I've read (up to #75) Stass Allie wasn't on Saleucami. Quinlan Vos led the attack there under instruction of Oppo Rancisis, with the help of Aayla Secura, K'kruhk, A'Sharad Hett, and a few others.

And it was Bacara looking troops that supported those Jedi.

Stass Allie was ordered to go to Saleucami in Reversal of Fortune, the online webstrip.
AH...I missed that.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jeff on July 7, 2005, 03:10 PM
A better look at a few more Clone Commanders, courtesy of the Official Site Databank:

Commander Bly (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderbly/)
(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderbly/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Commander Thire (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderthire/)
(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderthire/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Commander Neyo (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderneyo/)
(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderneyo/img/eu_bg.jpg)

AND, a very interesting nugget from Commander Bly's entry:

"The initial digital model of Bly had red markings, but this was changed to yellow to better suit the Felucia environment. Imagery of the red Bly saw publication and became the basis of a Hasbro action figure, even though a clone trooper with those particular markings did not appear in Episode III. "

So, in a way, we did already get Commander Bly.  ;)

So, does this mean that the Generic #33 "Clone Commander" is now an EU figure because he never appeared in the movie (according to the Official Site)?   :P
Title: Clone commanders
Post by: Ner_vod on July 8, 2005, 12:55 PM
I emailed hasbro and asked them if they're making any new clone commanders like gree,appo,fox,cody,bly,and thire but they said they are not planning to do so at the moment.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Broem on July 8, 2005, 03:44 PM
Did you ask them if they would please release everyone's favorite action figure - Cantina Han Solo for the 12th time?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jeff on July 8, 2005, 03:48 PM
Did you ask them if they would please release everyone's favorite action figure - Cantina Han Solo for the 12th time?

Oooh... how about a Han vs. the Clone Commanders line of 2-packs!  Just imagine the possibilities!

Cantina Han vs. Commander Cody!
Cantina Han vs. Commander Thire!
Cantina Han vs. Commander Bly!

Awesome!  Then we could really get building on our Cantina Han Army!  I just can't get enough of Cantina Han! 
 
Jeff
 ::)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: dafoo on July 8, 2005, 05:45 PM
I think they slapped different colors on them in the movies, just do they could get more cash outta toys.

NO I didn't JUST think of that! =p
Title: New Number 6 and 35 Paint Variants
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 9, 2005, 09:50 AM
Well (and about a month or so too late in my opinion), Hasbro has decided to do paint variants on previously released ROTS Clone figures for the basic line.  Galactic Hunter (http://www.galactichunter.com) is reporting that Hasbro is doing the following to figures in upcoming assortments:

-The #6 Clone Trooper will now have a Red Shocktrooper paint scheme (the ones from the Senate and Mustafar)

-The #35 Clone Commander will now have a green paint scheme (as opposed to the original red)

That's the good news.  The bad news?  Once again, each of these will be shipping at one per case in an assortment with several earlier figures.  So if the current stocking situation at retail isn't already giving you a headache, it's probably going to get a lot worse.

I'm putting my request in right off the bat for someone to hook me up with one of each if they run across them, and I'll be sure to pick up extras if I see them for someone here as well.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 9, 2005, 09:52 AM
According to a report on GalacticHunter - paint op variants of Clonetrooper #6 (red shock trooper) and a green? repaint of Clone Commander - unfortunately the case where these come the figures are packed only 1 per case - another EXCELLENT decision on Hasbro's part - I think most people are going to want to army build the Shocktrooper variant of Clone #6 and at one per case, that will be HARD.

Also - they don't know if the SA Clone (#41) will also have a new paint op. My guess is that it will be the 501st Legion Blue Markings, but there aren't any reports of evidence of that yet.

Great news, huh?  :P
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Brian on July 9, 2005, 10:10 AM
This is definitely welcome news, and I hope that we continue to see variants like this down the road.  It is too bad it sounds like they will be near impossible to find though, so hopefully we can all help each other out here if anyone finds extras.  I'm with DoctorPadawan, if anyone runs across an extra of the red marked (Senate/Mustafar) Clone that they don't want/need, put me on the list :P.  Hopefully we'll see some more "versions" of these at Comic-Con...I like Pete_Fett's idea of the 501st Blue (#41) Clone.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 9, 2005, 10:49 AM
OK, so if Commander Thire is the red repaint of the basic clone #6 (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/4629-001.jpg), who is the green repaint of the Clone Commander #33 (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/4629-002.jpg) supposed to be?  I guess just another generic Commander.

Repaints of Clones are nice to see, especially when they are Clones other than those 3-packs.

According to GH, these repaints can be found in Case 85173F: (from Entertainment Earth (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85173F1)):

1x Yoda (EIII #26)
2x General Grievous (EIII #9)
1x Clone Trooper (EIII #6)
2x Darth Vader (EIII #11)
1x Emperor Palpatine (EIII #12)
1x Clone Commander (EIII #33)
1x Clone Trooper (EIII #41)
1x Commander Baccarra (EIII #49)
1x Turbo Tank Driver (EIII #54)
1x Obi-Wan Pilot (EIII #56).
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Nicklab on July 9, 2005, 11:12 AM
Cool repaints.  I get the feeling  ;) that more Clone repaints could be just around the corner.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2005, 11:47 AM
(http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/4629-001.jpg)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: CHEWIE on July 9, 2005, 12:00 PM
True these will be hard to come by at first, but I am sure they will be released in greater quantities before too long.  Hasbro is finally learning after 10 years that there is a demand for army builders.

 :P
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 9, 2005, 12:11 PM
Yeah, but with so many other figures warming the pegs, retailers aren't going to order much anymore.  I think it's still going to be a bitch to find these.   :(
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Diddly on July 9, 2005, 01:29 PM
Sweet, movie accurate Clones! I just wish they were all using the SA body, but the QD Clone is pretty good. Plus, anything is better than nothing I suppose.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 9, 2005, 02:11 PM
I think the idea of paint variants for the Clones is, as I said before, a good idea but done a little too late in order to be beneficial.  Retail is choking on figures right now, and with the movie over, as far as they are concerned, they don't have to allot more than eight pegs and a shelf or two below that to Star Wars anymore.  Releasing what is sure to be a duo of guaranteed sellers now, when stores are cutting back on ordering and stocking, is going to be a headache, especially since Hasbro, in their infinite wisdom, has packed them at one per case. 

If HasbroToyShop.com was worth a crap, they could sell them through there, but they can't even keep their own products in stock, and it appears that they haven't updated their stocking since last month at the most recent.

Quote
True these will be hard to come by at first, but I am sure they will be released in greater quantities before too long.  Hasbro is finally learning after 10 years that there is a demand for army builders.

Chewie, just to play devil's advocate here...

-Darktrooper
-Spacetrooper
-Super Articulated Clone Trooper (Clone Wars)
-ARC Trooper (Red Version)

All four were released at the tail end of their particular assortments and none were ever any easier to find, with their shelf lives lasting no more than a month, at best.

With retail cutting back on ordering and stocking, I have a bad feeling about this.   :-\
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: dafoo on July 9, 2005, 03:17 PM
QD clonetrooper?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darby on July 9, 2005, 03:29 PM
Green?  GREEN?   ::)  Sometimes you can't win for losing with these guys.  Sigh.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ben on July 9, 2005, 05:42 PM
Damn.

I can't even get the 2nd R2-D2 around here, much less one-per-case army builders.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: evenflow on July 9, 2005, 11:07 PM
Well i like this approach, i hope Hasbro continues this with even more clones.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: SilverZ on July 10, 2005, 04:28 AM
I'm in complete agreement with you on this, DocP. This is a good idea way too late in the game.

First, although I'm in the minority, I hate the #6 Clone. It's existence, to me, is completely unjustifiable after the #41 SA. What reason, with the movie gone and kids already drifting from the line, there is to lean on the action feature rubbish is beyond me. The #41 Clone is the standard, and anything less is just a waste of time.

Second, that ratio is terrible. Beyond that one revision casepack, there's only one other potential case that these could show up in, at least that have been announced. They had better pull out a Clone Army case or there'll be hell to pay. I'm not ordering two cases of the one confirmed case of theirs just to get the clones. I don't know what they are thinking, and if they are indeed thinking, they're malicious bastards for pulling a stunt like this.

I really, really appreciate the repaints. It's a great idea. It's too late to pull this off and make collectors happy. Unless there's better Clone Army cases coming that we don't know about.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2005, 04:38 AM
I have a hope for either a Clone Case or something...  But this wouldn't surprise me if we are seeing basically all there is...

I like the idea.  I like the green Commander (I'd like a Yellow, green, Red, Orange, and Blue variant of the CC myself, whether on-screen or not), and I like the idea of the red Coruscant Clones that seemed to be a personal-use legion...  All perfectly good ideas, but case assortments are a concern.

I hold hope for some case where these are plentiful and this case showing up in droves...  A Clone (all Clone) case would go a long way right now.

I like the #6 Clone enough...  I think #6 and #41 shipping in these legion colors would be neat though.  What I like for #6 is he can go prone while #41 really can't...  I see where you're coming from on it though as well Jared.  #41 is still my favored figure if I had to pick one over the other.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: CHEWIE on July 10, 2005, 05:59 AM
Well crap Doc P.  You may be right.  Those figures you mentioned were at the tail end of their assortments, and proved damn hard to get.  But, I will say this... those figures weren't in lines supported by a movie... plus, we are getting the DVD release in November, which could lead to a minor boost in retail shipments...

As for the using of the #6 Clone, it's kinda lame considering how great the #41 Clone is, but I'll take it.  The #6 Clone still comes close to walking on water for me.

What I would really, really like to see is two separate army-building waves come out in late summer...

WAVE ONE

- AT-TE Gunner x 2
- Felucia Clone x 2 
- Red Shocktrooper x 2
- Blue 501st Clone x 2
- Red Royal Guard x 2
- Battle Droid x 2

WAVE TWO

- Mygeeto Clone x 3
- BARC Trooper x 3
- SA Clone # 41 x 2
- AT-RT Driver x 2
- Sneak Preview Wookiee Warrior repaint x 2


The Battle Droid has totally dried up... I know some people around here hate the figure, but it really did sell well from what I saw.  I could use a few more.

 :P
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 10, 2005, 11:47 AM

Second, that ratio is terrible. Beyond that one revision casepack, there's only one other potential case that these could show up in, at least that have been announced. They had better pull out a Clone Army case or there'll be hell to pay.  I don't know what they are thinking, and if they are indeed thinking, they're malicious bastards for pulling a stunt like this.

I really, really appreciate the repaints. It's a great idea. It's too late to pull this off and make collectors happy. Unless there's better Clone Army cases coming that we don't know about.

I couldn't agree more. It's like they're sticking it to the loyal customers.  Looks like a good question for Coleman to ask. ;)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: dafoo on July 10, 2005, 08:05 PM
Not just the loyal collecters, no kid wants just one trooper!

it just makes sense, 1 of each of like the 6 main charactes, then armies.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jeff on July 10, 2005, 08:48 PM
I really, really appreciate the repaints. It's a great idea. It's too late to pull this off and make collectors happy. Unless there's better Clone Army cases coming that we don't know about.

I hope that there is a clone-friendly case coming, or maybe the new color Clones will continue to ship with rumored #57-#68 that will be shown at SDCC this week.   ;)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Broem on July 10, 2005, 09:47 PM
 I just hope I can find the red shocktrooper someplace.  I doubt it though.  I can't even find those deluxe clonetrooper 3 packs.  I do not even want those 3 packs.  So, I can just imagine the availability of this 1 per case shocktrooper.  Sigh.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: ruiner on July 11, 2005, 08:32 AM
Chewie has a good idea.

Make this case available to ee.com or somewhere similar - much easier to get these figures for people who can't make toy runs 2-3 times a week.

Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 11, 2005, 02:57 PM
http://www.thejawa.com/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1405

Looks like we're getting the Special Ops Clone x3!
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 11, 2005, 03:04 PM
http://www.thejawa.com/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1405

Looks like we're getting the Special Ops Clone x3!

Yeah - this explains why the #6 clone is getting repainted red - they're giving us the 501st blue repainted #6 in a box with three of them at a time.

While I'm sure people will be-moan the fact that there won't (at least initially) be an individually carded 501st trooper, at least this box set will allow for quick accumulation of a small legion of the blue troopers!
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: jedipurge on July 11, 2005, 03:39 PM
while this sounds pretty cool, I think I'll pass.  considering past boxed sets they'll probably go for bout $20 a pop and since I only want 3 of the 5 figs I think I'll save my money and buy some blue paint and seek out a couple more clones.  nobody is building an army of Anakin's so I'll be stuck with those and the pilots are warming the pegs as we speak so nobody'll want those either I'm stuck with 2 figs I really don't want.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 11, 2005, 04:04 PM
while this sounds pretty cool, I think I'll pass.  considering past boxed sets they'll probably go for bout $20 a pop and since I only want 3 of the 5 figs I think I'll save my money and buy some blue paint and seek out a couple more clones.  nobody is building an army of Anakin's so I'll be stuck with those and the pilots are warming the pegs as we speak so nobody'll want those either I'm stuck with 2 figs I really don't want.

True, but I view the $20 price tag (if that's what it is) as a small price to pay to get 3 501st Clones at once. I will probably end up getting two of these just to open and put one of the Anakins with a Starfighter and the extra pilots while not being the best army builder, they are STILL army builders.

If I had my choice on the Anakin figure - it would be the #28 Slashing Attack Anakin figure with the cloak from the #50 Anakin figure - so you could have a figure similar to how Anakin appeared as he walked up the steps to the temple.

I'll have to try combining the Crispy Anakin's cloak with my Slashing Attack Anakin and see how it looks. That kit-bashed figure would be better IMHO than another Anakin #2.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: jedipurge on July 11, 2005, 04:33 PM
Pete I hear what you're saying, but in regards to that kit bashed Ani I was thinking along the same line but instead of the slashing Ani waiting for the Evolutions Ani and using him with the cloak from crispy Ani.  Now if I could only get both figures I'd be set with the ULTIMATE ANAKIN SKYWALKER (insert evil laugh here).
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 11, 2005, 05:20 PM
I really like the idea of the 501st set having three of that one figure in it, as we should (unless it's a Target exclusive) be able to preorder it and know we'll get a 501st Clone without all the hassle that will undoubtedly surround the Shocktrooper repaint.  Why it has a Clone Pilot, I don't know, but I needed another one to complete my ARC-170 crew, so at least now I can save my money and not buy another single carded one.  I just hope that this version has a new paint deco on his helmet with a different squad logo (and a better face paint job wouldn't hurt either).

Quote
If I had my choice on the Anakin figure - it would be the #28 Slashing Attack Anakin figure with the cloak from the #50 Anakin figure - so you could have a figure similar to how Anakin appeared as he walked up the steps to the temple.

Trying the cloak from #50 on the other two Anakins was one of the first things I did when I got it the other day.  It does fit fairly well on the #2 Anakin, but the #28 Anakin's shoulders and torso are so wide that it just doesn't look all that great.  The #50 Cloak is much thinner in width than the #28 Anakin and it looks really awkward, almost like Annie's going into a Hulk rage or something.

Now, if they would do a headswap of the #28 head, put it on the #2 body, and include the cloak from #50, *that* would be worth it.

A slightly different and more accurate Anakin for the scene instead of #2, a slightly modified and/or improved Clone Pilot, and three 501st Clones using what is essentially a SA body without a waist joint and with an action feature?  That does not sound like a bad set at all to me.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: dafoo on July 11, 2005, 06:03 PM
At the very least you could get a dremmel and some paint and make a mess of Jedi for the slaughtering.

Anakin's head is SOO big you could cut a ton of plastic away and make all sorts of heads
Title: List of all the clones and variations?
Post by: dafoo on July 11, 2005, 06:09 PM
Does anyone know if there is a site detailing all the various clones, their units, commanders, colors and the like?  hopefully with pictures.

I'd be very interested to see that all compiled.

Hopefully with the EpII and EU clones too.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: JediMAC on July 11, 2005, 06:38 PM
I'm merging your Clonetrooper question into the Clonetrooper thread here, dafoo.  Most of your questions have already been answered throughout this thread, at least in relation to Ep. 3 (including pictures).  Considering Ep. 2 Clones are MUCH more simple (no names, just 4 standard colors and white), I'm sure someone can quickly answer your question on that in here too.

- Matt
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 11, 2005, 06:41 PM
More #6 clone repaints? Better not let Jared (Tydirium) see this thread. :o
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: SilverZ on July 11, 2005, 09:04 PM
Too late, I was already pissed before I came into the thread.   ;) There's about a 98% chance of me going "Colman" on Hasbro either in their booth or during the Q&A.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Morgbug on July 11, 2005, 09:27 PM
Too late, I was already pissed before I came into the thread.   ;) There's about a 98% chance of me going "Colman" on Hasbro either in their booth or during the Q&A.

You guys have to sit apart from each other at the Q&A then.  Otherwise they'll know it's JD again :P

Somebody tell me why they're using the POTF2 snowtroopers ???
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: dafoo on July 11, 2005, 09:51 PM
JediMAC: LOL, I was really starting to wonder where my thread went. =p

I've read this whole thread, but I didn't think it was all put together yet.

That and it seems Hasbro issued commanders in the wrong colors.  So I was looking for a total list.

EPII clones seemed to be just the rank colors and a few driver variations.  And Clone Wars was just the ARC troopers, or am I missing some?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2005, 01:12 AM
Too late, I was already pissed before I came into the thread.   ;) There's about a 98% chance of me going "Colman" on Hasbro either in their booth or during the Q&A.

Please please do.

There's no excuse to ever use that horseback riding #6 pile of garbage when there's a perfectly awesome SA mold out there waiting for another repaint and repackage.

I'd buy at least 100  501st SA Clones if they made them.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 12, 2005, 01:16 AM
I'd buy at least 100  501st SA Clones if they made them.

And coming from you Rob, I believe you.   :)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2005, 01:18 AM
And coming from you Rob, I believe you.   :)

What makes you say that?   (http://www.ocforums.com/oc_images/images/smilies/gen068.gif)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/SW%20Collection/Clones_01.jpg)

Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: JediMAC on July 12, 2005, 01:30 AM
There's about a 98% chance of me going "Colman" on Hasbro either in their booth or during the Q&A.

Hey!  >:(

JediMAC: LOL, I was really starting to wonder where my thread went. =p

Sorry, I was going to PM you, but then got caught up with a bunch of crap at the office.  Glad you found it.  ;)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Broem on July 12, 2005, 09:11 AM
Well I really do not understand why they do not repaint the SA clone either.  For some reason Hasbro does not like to utilize their SA clones.  You did not really see all that many of them for the Clone Wars line.  Which I could slightly understand since it was the CW line which was shortlived.  Although I don't know why they just did not put it out there for Saga line at the time?  Now ROTS comes along and they use that #6 mold and then turn around and give us the SA version.  Which really makes know sense if you think about it.  Just send out the SA version initially.  Why even bother making the #6 when you already have SA?  I thought they were all about saving money on molds, etc?

Now we have #6 being used as repaints for the Red Shock Trooper and 3 of the 501st troopers in the Jedi Temple Raid set.  Why can't the SA be used for those instead.  It is a better version than #6.  I can totally live with #6 but you would think they would want to use the SA version. 

It's like they think the SA is too good to use.  Why?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2005, 10:19 AM
The only possible explanation is that it costs more money to produce and assemble the figure with extra parts and they're (as always) keeping their costs down knowing that the #6 clone will sell too.

I could be wrong, but that's all I've been able to come up with.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 12, 2005, 10:30 AM


There's no excuse to ever use that horseback riding #6 pile of garbage

All 90 of my figure bubbles were devoid of the horse accessory.  I gotta write Hasbro a letter.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Broem on July 12, 2005, 12:32 PM
The only possible explanation is that it costs more money to produce and assemble the figure with extra parts and they're (as always) keeping their costs down knowing that the #6 clone will sell too.

I could be wrong, but that's all I've been able to come up with.

Yeah, it has to be something like that.   They can not be totally clueless to the fact that the SA version is better than the #6 and that most people would rather have the SA version.   Unless it's somehow easier to add the paint and detail to #6 rather than #41 somehow? 
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 12, 2005, 02:25 PM
Wouldn't a #6 clone have more working parts though? What kind of configuration and or mechanizm is used to get the quickdraw action?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: dafoo on July 12, 2005, 04:32 PM
just give us SA! it is all about the same plastic, what's their slave labor extra to install the 14 articulation points anyway? 2 cents a figure? =p
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: CHEWIE on July 30, 2005, 03:20 AM
Luck was a lady tonight.  Hit my closest Walmart because I can't sleep and found two cases of figures.  Was a sneaky Wookiee and opened them, and got me two Shocktroopers and two AT-RT drivers.

Wow, the AT-RT Driver might be better than the #41 Clone... the articulation is spectacur and these dudes just look plain mean.

The Shocktroopers are unreal... the paint job on these is way beyond my expectations.  Perfectly done.  Glad for once that I didn't try to customize my own.

 :P
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Famine on July 30, 2005, 02:31 PM
Mean toys? >:( Lucky.

I never find new cases. The only "new cases" I ever saw were the cases at Midnight Madness. >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 1, 2005, 07:45 AM
An obsevation to throw out there....

I popped open a Shocktooper, an I kinda feel that for being on a #6 body, it came out pretty nice. In fact, the paint scheme tens to redirect your eyes away from the clunky ball jointed shoulders sockets. Does anyone else agree?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Broem on August 1, 2005, 09:28 PM
I would not know.  I have not found one yet but I want one really, really badly.  Well I want more than one but you know what I meant. 
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Paul on August 1, 2005, 09:41 PM
A question about the repaints of the Clones....are they still Numbered #6 and #41 for the Clones and whatever the numbers were for Clone Commanders and Pilots?

Or are they higher up in number?

I keep sending my "scouts" on runs but I don't have the proper intel for them.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jeff on August 1, 2005, 10:08 PM
A question about the repaints of the Clones....are they still Numbered #6 and #41 for the Clones and whatever the numbers were for Clone Commanders and Pilots?

Or are they higher up in number?

I keep sending my "scouts" on runs but I don't have the proper intel for them.

These are the only repaints that do have the same numbering -

#6 Clone Trooper (Red Shocktrooper)
#33 Clone Commander (Green)
#34 Clone Pilot (Black)

The rest of the new repaints are numbered #57-68.

Jeff

Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2005, 01:28 PM
The red shock looks awesome..right down to the grey painted boot soles.  They look awesome in formation(my son has an army(he's 11))

The black pilots also look really good in the ROTS ARC170. I dunno- I think the black ones look far superior to the white/grey pilots
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 6, 2005, 12:04 PM
The red shock looks awesome..right down to the grey painted boot soles.  They look awesome in formation(my son has an army(he's 11))

The black pilots also look really good in the ROTS ARC170. I dunno- I think the black ones look far superior to the white/grey pilots

Amazing what a little paint will do. Huh?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: SpudTrooper on August 6, 2005, 08:26 PM

Amazing what a little paint will do. Huh?

lol seriously, the black pilots are a very hot item right now.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 7, 2005, 09:51 AM
The red shock looks awesome..right down to the grey painted boot soles.  They look awesome in formation(my son has an army(he's 11))

The black pilots also look really good in the ROTS ARC170. I dunno- I think the black ones look far superior to the white/grey pilots

I was actually thinking about picking up a new ARC-170, taking it apart and then using my paint gun to give it a nice blue-gray paint-scheme like the TIE-Fighter. Sort of like "What the ARC-170s became AFTER the Empire was formed" mostly 'cause the one Black Pilot I have in the front cockpit looks WAY better than the white/gray one.

I wonder where this paint-app comes from. LucasFilm/ILM, Art of ROTS, etc... I think this should have been the Clone Pilot design from the start.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Paul on August 7, 2005, 08:03 PM

These are the only repaints that do have the same numbering -

#6 Clone Trooper (Red Shocktrooper)
#33 Clone Commander (Green)
#34 Clone Pilot (Black)

The rest of the new repaints are numbered #57-68.

Jeff



Thanks Jeff that helps when Looking for the stuff.

I ended up getting the Shock Troop and Green Commander on Ebay (not figuring to get to go on any Toy Runs in the near future)

The Coloring on the Shock Trooper would have lent itself better to the #41 (or the Target Clone) Body.  The removable shoulder pad does not fit well with the color scheme.  It worked well on Black/White/Gray but Red/Black and White did not.

The Green Commander's only flaw is his lack of troops to command. 

I'll probably only get 4 of the Shocktroopers and 2 Commanders.


And I know it will upset some of our members, but I am going to get the usual dozen of the new Target Stealth Clone.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 7, 2005, 08:05 PM


The Green Commander's only flaw is his lack of troops to command. 


That, plus the fact it never appeared in a Star Wars film.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on August 7, 2005, 08:17 PM
And I know it will upset some of our members, but I am going to get the usual dozen of the new Target Stealth Clone.
You can have all the ones I'm not buying. :P

I want at least half a dozen 501st, though! Was there a 501st commander in the movie? How many men are in a, what's the term, squad? Batallion? Can't wait to surround Zett and the youglings with these bastards! :D
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 7, 2005, 08:39 PM
And I know it will upset some of our members, but I am going to get the usual dozen of the new Target Stealth Clone.
You can have all the ones I'm not buying. :P

I want at least half a dozen 501st, though! Was there a 501st commander in the movie? How many men are in a, what's the term, squad? Batallion? Can't wait to surround Zett and the youglings with these bastards! :D

The 501st commander isn't shown in the movie, but Darth Delicious did post a pic somewhere, I think in the customizing section, of Commanders Appo and Faie.  Appo looks like Gree crossed with a 501st trooper, just picture a 501st trooper with the suspenders and Gree colored eye visor.

EDIT:  Here's Commander Appo of the 501st, courtesy of Darth Delicious' feverish search:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/JohnnyDelicious/CommanderAppofriend.jpg)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on August 7, 2005, 08:54 PM
EDIT:  Here's Commander Appo of the 501st, courtesy of Darth Delicious' feverish search:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/JohnnyDelicious/CommanderAppofriend.jpg)

I have seen that before. Didn't notice he was 501st. Suspenders, WTF... Faie looks interesting. Well, I hope they make both. I need a commander for the Baby-Killer Squad!

Were the black pilots in the flick??
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Paul on August 7, 2005, 09:23 PM


The Green Commander's only flaw is his lack of troops to command. 


That, plus the fact it never appeared in a Star Wars film.

But if I lived by that creed I'd have to get rid of all my white clones and my 24 Target Clones...I'll choose to belive they appeared in the part of the movie I missed when I went to get more Milk Duds...

Besides, I don't have the ability to view every pixel and square inch of film, I'll take a leap of faith and give him the benefit of the doubt of being in the movie. 
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 7, 2005, 09:37 PM


The Green Commander's only flaw is his lack of troops to command. 


That, plus the fact it never appeared in a Star Wars film.

But if I lived by that creed I'd have to get rid of all my white clones and my 24 Target Clones...I'll choose to belive they appeared in the part of the movie I missed when I went to get more Milk Duds...

 

White clones were fairly obvious IMO.  They clearly appeared behind Mace and Yoda on a gunship, and clearly appeared at gunning stations during the space battle.  They also were laying dead on the floor of the temple after the attack, when Obi Wan and Yoda were walking a hall.

About Neyo's Target troop, yeah, I don't think it appeared in the film personally.  I think the trooper next to Neyo that blasted the female Jedi had a helmet like Neyo.

Though I am impressed by the expenditure of 24 Target clones at 12.99, I haven't heard of anyone scoring that many!  One time I was in Target and saw a bunch on the pegs, and some guy came buy and took them all except the one I had in my hand.  I didn't buy it anyhow.

No personal foul in liking technically-EU clones, it's just not my bag.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 7, 2005, 09:39 PM


Were the black pilots in the flick??

I did not notice them.  I think they're just Hasbro's EU attempt to link the clone pilot to a TIE pilot.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jesse James on August 8, 2005, 12:52 AM
No black pilots in the film...  As near as I can tell, the only pilot variation we would've been shown that got axed was the V-Wing Pilot...  He's a HUGE change too, and not much like any other pilot except his helmet is closer to a TIE Pilot's in look, but color he's like nobody else.

I'm all for the EU stuff, even if it's not in any EU material but Hasbro-made...  They have the Clone Commander mold, so I'm all for milking that to get more Clone COmmanders (I also treat that sculpt as an E3 era ARC Trooper's uniform...  I personally don't bite on all the ARC's dying off, or new ones not being trainded/created).  To that end I could fit the green CC in anywhere really, or just make him part of a green legion...

Same with the black pilots and such...  The Target Clone's I just treat as Neyo Grunts we don't see.  I'm sure that planet had more than 2 guys (the Commander and what I'd assume was an aide or accompanying officer) roaming about...  It's all in what you like though.  I'd take a Super Articulated Kyle Katarn figure and Darktrooper you could fit a SA figure into over any of these. :)  The ultimate EU figs IMO.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 8, 2005, 11:56 AM
I'm with Jesse on the Target Clone deal.  Even though both of the BARC clones on Saelucami had the same helmet, and none of the Target Clones were on screen at all, I would assume they were the "unseen grunts" of the Saleucami task force.  As such, I'm more than happy to have one in my collection. :)

If it's a Clone Commander/Grunt/whatever variant that looks like it could have been in the film, I have no problem with it.  Even though I'll probably end up getting one of the Stealth Clones and the black pilot (if I ever see one), they're a little less interesting to me than something like the Shocktrooper, or Bacara's grunts from Mygeeto.  A Clone Commander with green markings is fine with me from an EU perspective, but when you start getting stuff like the POTF2 Crowd Control Stormtrooper, that's when I begin to pass on them.

In reference to the "weirdo" helmet and 501st Commander photo posted by Dressel, that photo comes from the "Art of ROTS" book, and there is a second photo of Commander Faie to the left of the aforementioned photo that has him wearing a kind of "mini-cloak."  Also of note is that the red Clone Commander that we've already gotten as an action figure is identified as an "ARC Trooper (Color Variation)" in the photo to the right of the Neyo/501st/Faie photo.

And just for completion's sake, an excerpt from the text:

Quote
Lucas's desire for individualized clone trooper armor as expressed during the very first art department meeting back in April 2002, has a continuing effect throughout  post-production as Jaeger creates several outfit variations.  Though they are essentially dictated by climate, some are takeoffs on the armor seen in the Clone Wars cartoons, while others are throwbacks (or throwforwards) to the Episode IV desert stormtroopers.

Also of note (although not relevant to this discussion) is that pictured on this same page are four photos of differing "deco damage" on the MagnaDroid bodyguards, one of which is the white version that everyone shook their heads at from Hasbro's "Final 12" ROTS figures.

And just to plug it (since I really like it myself), the Art of ROTS book is a great resource and a really good insight (like all the art books for SW) into where a lot of the characters came from.  Well worth picking up.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ner_vod on August 8, 2005, 03:45 PM
And I know it will upset some of our members, but I am going to get the usual dozen of the new Target Stealth Clone.
You can have all the ones I'm not buying. :P

I want at least half a dozen 501st, though! Was there a 501st commander in the movie? How many men are in a, what's the term, squad? Batallion? Can't wait to surround Zett and the youglings with these bastards! :D

The 501st commander isn't shown in the movie, but Darth Delicious did post a pic somewhere, I think in the customizing section, of Commanders Appo and Faie.  Appo looks like Gree crossed with a 501st trooper, just picture a 501st trooper with the suspenders and Gree colored eye visor.

EDIT:  Here's Commander Appo of the 501st, courtesy of Darth Delicious' feverish search:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/JohnnyDelicious/CommanderAppofriend.jpg)
I think the 501st w/ suspenders was supposed to be Gree. Because in the Attactix, it shows Gree but colored blue insyead of green.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 8, 2005, 04:07 PM
The Target clone DID have an appearance...it's on one of the movie posters-I think the republic/jedi one-if you can count that for anything.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jeff on August 10, 2005, 03:07 PM
This seems like as good a place as any to post this...

By some miracle, the #54 AT-RT (pka Turbo Tank) Driver is in stock at HasbroToyShop.com   :o

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=495&SBR=219&ID=16418
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 10, 2005, 07:59 PM
I noticed that yesterday, it's the corrected version
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 11, 2005, 11:40 AM
Has anyone figured out which case rotations contain which re-paints?

I just found a wave 6 case that had two each of 54-56, but no repaints, it was W6R2.

There is a case with black clone pilots and one without, both have the other re-paints (although the one without will sometimes have the white #6 in place of the red one) and no Sentry. Anyone catch the Rotaion numbers?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: MetalJedi on August 12, 2005, 07:35 AM
Has anyone figured out which case rotations contain which re-paints?

I just found a wave 6 case that had two each of 54-56, but no repaints, it was W6R2.

There is a case with black clone pilots and one without, both have the other re-paints (although the one without will sometimes have the white #6 in place of the red one) and no Sentry. Anyone catch the Rotaion numbers?

W6R3 is usually the case with the Green Commander and Shock Trooper. Usually cause I opened up a few cases some had the Red Shock and Green Commander and some had Regular White #6 and Green Commander.  ??? I dont know which one has the Black Clone Pilot. Still looking for that one myself.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 13, 2005, 02:57 AM
I dont know which one has the Black Clone Pilot. Still looking for that one myself.

Perhaps that is W6R1.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ryan on August 13, 2005, 05:31 AM
And I know it will upset some of our members, but I am going to get the usual dozen of the new Target Stealth Clone.
You can have all the ones I'm not buying. :P

I want at least half a dozen 501st, though! Was there a 501st commander in the movie? How many men are in a, what's the term, squad? Batallion? Can't wait to surround Zett and the youglings with these bastards! :D

The 501st commander isn't shown in the movie, but Darth Delicious did post a pic somewhere, I think in the customizing section, of Commanders Appo and Faie.  Appo looks like Gree crossed with a 501st trooper, just picture a 501st trooper with the suspenders and Gree colored eye visor.

EDIT:  Here's Commander Appo of the 501st, courtesy of Darth Delicious' feverish search:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/JohnnyDelicious/CommanderAppofriend.jpg)
I think the 501st w/ suspenders was supposed to be Gree. Because in the Attactix, it shows Gree but colored blue insyead of green.

Don't base anything off Attactix. They are way off, they show Bly as a red commander and several clones have seperatist logos and are listed as seperatists. Attactix is easily one of Hablows worst lines ever.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on August 15, 2005, 12:12 AM
What date stamps do you guys have on your AT-RT drivers? My brown has 51571.

And how, again, do you read them? ???
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2005, 04:39 PM
So, just how many Clone Troopers will we end up with this year?


So far, we've got at least 27 Clone Troopers/Commanders that we know about so far:

III-06 Clone Trooper (v1 - White)
III-06 Clone Trooper (v2 - Red)
III-33 Clone Commander (v1 - Red)
III-33 Clone Commander (v2 - Green)
III-38 AT-TE Gunner
III-41 Clone Trooper (v1 - White)
III-49 Commander Baccara (v1 - Maroon)
III-57 Commander Bly (III-33 v3 - Yellow)
III-59 Commander Gree (III-41 v2 - Green)
III-65 Special Ops Trooper (Repaint of either III-38 or III-41)
Target Exclusive Clone Trooper
Target Exclusive Utapau Shadow Trooper
Deluxe Clone Trooper w/Jetpack
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (white,kneeling)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (white,standing)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (white,prone)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (green,kneeling)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (red,standing)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (blue,prone)
RotS DVD 3-Pack Clone Trooper (gold,kneeling)
RotS DVD 3-pack Clone Trooper (gold,standing)
SWShop Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Evolutions Clone Trooper (v1 - Yellow)
Evolutions Clone Trooper (v2 - Gray)
Jedi Temple Assult Clone Trooper (III-06 v3 - Blue)
Clone Attack Clone Trooper (III-06 v4 - Gray)
Clone Attack Commander Baccara (III-49 v2 - Blue/Gray)


And 5 "other" Clone Figures:

III-34 Clone Pilot (v1 - Gray)
III-34 Clone Pilot (v2 Black)
III-54 AT-RT Driver
Pack-In AR-RT Driver
Pack-In BARC Driver


Did anyone think back in April that we'd have this many Clones already?  I sure as hell didn't.

In a way, I'm almost sick of clones...  I'd rather they started cranking out Padmes.   ;)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ner_vod on August 31, 2005, 04:42 PM
So, just how many Clone Troopers will we end up with this year?


So far, we've got at least 27 Clone Troopers/Commanders that we know about so far:

III-06 Clone Trooper (v1 - White)
III-06 Clone Trooper (v2 - Red)
III-33 Clone Commander (v1 - Red)
III-33 Clone Commander (v2 - Green)
III-38 AT-TE Gunner
III-41 Clone Trooper (v1 - White)
III-49 Commander Baccara (v1 - Maroon)
III-57 Commander Bly (III-33 v3 - Yellow)
III-59 Commander Gree (III-41 v2 - Green)
III-65 Special Ops Trooper (Repaint of either III-38 or III-41)
Target Exclusive Clone Trooper
Target Exclusive Utapau Shadow Trooper
Deluxe Clone Trooper w/Jetpack
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (white,kneeling)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (white,standing)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (white,prone)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (green,kneeling)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (red,standing)
Deluxe 3-pack Clone Trooper (blue,prone)
RotS DVD 3-Pack Clone Trooper (gold,kneeling)
RotS DVD 3-pack Clone Trooper (gold,standing)
SWShop Covert Ops Clone Trooper
Evolutions Clone Trooper (v1 - Yellow)
Evolutions Clone Trooper (v2 - Gray)
Jedi Temple Assult Clone Trooper (III-06 v3 - Blue)
Clone Attack Clone Trooper (III-06 v4 - Gray)
Clone Attack Commander Baccara (III-49 v2 - Blue/Gray)


And 5 "other" Clone Figures:

III-34 Clone Pilot (v1 - Gray)
III-34 Clone Pilot (v2 Black)
III-54 AT-RT Driver
Pack-In AR-RT Driver
Pack-In BARC Driver


Did anyone think back in April that we'd have this many Clones already?  I sure as hell didn't.

In a way, I'm almost sick of clones...  I'd rather they started cranking out Padmes.   ;)


what does the target exclusive utapau shadow trooper look like?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2005, 04:49 PM
what does the target exclusive utapau shadow trooper look like?

See this thread - Target Exclusive Utapau Shadow Trooper (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9250.0)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-05/targetstealthclone.jpg)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on August 31, 2005, 05:02 PM
In a way, I'm almost sick of clones...  I'd rather they started cranking out Padmes.   ;)


The Wookiees are really getting the shaft. I can't believe we're seeing the crappiest one repainted 3 times. Where's Merumeru? I thought Wookiees would get a lot more attention finally. Of course it doesn't help that were barely in the movie, which came as a surprise. :( I posted a thread in "Dear Hasbro" on RS last night, and no one's even replied yet. Doesn't anyone want more Wookiees...?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 31, 2005, 05:07 PM
Count me in for some more wookiees! The only good wookiee warrior we got was the preview one. Though I don't mind Tarrful, even with his lack of knee articulation.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on August 31, 2005, 05:16 PM
Count me in for some more wookiees! The only good wookiee warrior we got was the preview one. Though I don't mind Tarrful, even with his lack of knee articulation.

Me too. I love the guy. They cheesed on articulation, but how can you not love him?

Erm, back to clone discussion.... ;)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Diddly on August 31, 2005, 05:36 PM
Wasn't Merumeru the Preview Wookiee?

And seeing that list makes me think DAMN, we actually DID get some Clones this year. I don't count those 3 pack Clones though, they stink. :P
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on August 31, 2005, 06:56 PM
Wasn't Merumeru the Preview Wookiee?

No, here's Merumeru (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/merumeru/). He was the one leading the ground forces, the one that stood and raised his staff. I don't remember the name (Gaunta?), but the SP seems to be based on the one in the back, far left in this pic (http://gwiezdne-wojny.pl/grafika/2004/lip/wookie.jpg). It's hard to tell with none of their armor or anything on, but note the braids with red bands. In that pic, Tarfful is to his right and that's Merumeru next one over.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Broem on August 31, 2005, 10:42 PM
Unfortunately the Wookies kind of got the shaft in the movie.  I think that may be one reason we are not seeing more Wookies other than the 2 repainted figures. 
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jesse James on September 1, 2005, 12:00 AM
The Wookiees did get shafted bigtime.

The #43 is a terrible sculpt, with a horribly "posed" foot that makes standing him a real pain, and his articulation is cut so that sucks as well.

If they made the legs separate at the knee, thus requiring the extra "work", why didn't they make the knees hinged like the Preview figure?  That alone would've been about enough for me to be happy with that figure.

The weapons were weak too though...  The Preview had a nice rifle, but I think the bowcaster deserved more love than a lame-ass feature stuck on it.

I actually dislike Tarrful quite a bit due to the articulation...  He also has a weak paint application compared to others, but whatever.  The articulation was my beef with him.

I would like a resculpt of the #43 which I see as the "in-between" sized Wookiees that lie somewhere between Chewie big and Preview gargantuan. :)  A bit more articulation (at least at the legs anyway) and a nice bowcaster resculpt...  I'd dig that. 

I'm actually into the repainted preview WOokiee though.  I'd take a couple straight re-releases of that figure just repainted.  Even with the same accessories, it'd be nice since it's the better figure.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 3, 2005, 07:33 AM


I'm actually into the repainted preview WOokiee though.  I'd take a couple straight re-releases of that figure just repainted.  Even with the same accessories, it'd be nice since it's the better figure.

The preview wookiee is easily in my top 5 figures all time.  I lost count of how many I have somewhere after 50.  He's right in the wheelhouse with VOTC stormie, Coleman Trebor, Ephant Mon, and POTJ sandie.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: proudfather2 on September 3, 2005, 09:43 AM
And here's my list of Clones that I've been able to find:

III-06 Clone Trooper (v1 - White)
III-33 Clone Commander (v1 - Red)
III-38 AT-TE Gunner
III-41 Clone Trooper (v1 - White)
III-49 Commander Baccara (v1 - Maroon)
Target Exclusive Clone Trooper
III-34 Clone Pilot (v1 - Gray)

What's that rolling across the floor at my feet? Oh yeah, the ball Hasbro dropped on good Clone choices and distribution! And where the hell is Commander Cody? What in God's name is Hasbro's reason for NOT giving us a Commander Cody in the ROTS line? Damn! The guy even had a speaking role and camaraderie with one of the main characters of the film!!!

Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on September 3, 2005, 09:58 AM
The preview wookiee is easily in my top 5 figures all time.

Sorry to keep veering in the direction of Wookiee discussion, but I agree with that! One of the best figs ever!

Back on the subject of clones, I'm getting pretty impatient for the Jedi killers. I think I'm gonna pass on the Temple Assault guys, though. I'm pretty tired of the quick draw body.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Nicklab on September 3, 2005, 02:24 PM
Wasn't Merumeru the Preview Wookiee?

The Preview Wookiee is most likely Salporin (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/salporin/).  At least that is the Wookiee that most closely resembles the Preview Wookiee.  If you look at the photo on the package, this is most likely the same Wookiee.

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/salporin/img/movie_bg.jpg)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on September 3, 2005, 08:32 PM
No way, dude. Sal has no braids. Check out this pic:

http://gwiezdne-wojny.pl/grafika/2004/lip/wookie.jpg

The guy on the left rear clearly has the red ties on his braids just like the preview guy. And I think his body type fits too. He's bulkier. Salporin looks more like the slimmer #43.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 3, 2005, 09:10 PM
Yeah the pic Nicklab posted has the helmet and body armor of the Preview Wookiee, but I guess the braids eliminate Salporin as the template.

At any rate, it's huge, hairy, bulky, and generic enough to be a great army builder, and in my top 5 figures all time.

They can paint the preview wookiees as many times as they want and I'll still buy it.

My next diorama for my thread in the custom section will be a HUGE (I'm talking 75 +) mob of wookiees ambushing an AT-RT patrol that are roaming a forest in convoy formation on AT-RT's and on foot.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 4, 2005, 01:48 AM
Is this a new thread or are we still talking about EPIII clonetroopers???!!! ::) :-\
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Famine on September 4, 2005, 07:37 PM
Is this a new thread or are we still talking about EPIII clonetroopers???!!! ::) :-\

Your post did nothing to steer it in the right direction...


Anyway, as Dressel posted in another thread, Wal*Mart is aparently going Clone Crazy with a special wall of HTF figures....any clue as to why a retailer such as The Wal would do that? I'm of course refering to the hordes of #6 Shocktroops and #38 Green Repaints.

Kevin
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 4, 2005, 08:13 PM
It's not alot of troopers....62-72 pegs???! that's like 30 cases! most normal stores' SW sections have 15-20 pegs-see for yourself. Yeah, after 30 cases it's gonna seem like alot of clones...- but the case packed amount is the same in case-so it just appears like alot of clones- and ...I bet there wasn't any reds after 2 days....

WHY DO THEY DO IT?? duh, they know what's selling and if H has more product avail. WM' s gonna buy it.

Tell me... what else are the stores supposed to do...? Now that most of the waves have shipped- what other options do the stores have but to stock a ton of the best selling cases to hold over until new product finally starts to hit the stores.

"Your post did nothing to steer it in the right direction..." ::)
= Anyway, I'm glad we're steered right since we're talking about clones again ;D


Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on September 4, 2005, 10:54 PM
Posted this in the customs section, but I am currently working on a green clone found on page 44 of the visual dictionary. I really like that clone and I don't want to wait so that's the reason for the custom. Wish HB would give that one a shot on a SA body!
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 5, 2005, 03:04 PM
With all the clones we've gotten, it's kind of typical that we have not gotten the clones with the most screen time, the orange Utapau battle clones. Must be the helmet design.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 5, 2005, 04:17 PM
Posted this in the customs section, but I am currently working on a green clone found on page 44 of the visual dictionary. I really like that clone and I don't want to wait so that's the reason for the custom. Wish HB would give that one a shot on a SA body!

Yeah, I wouldn't wait either, because it's never going to be made.  That green clone turned out to be orange in the flick, that's the same pattern as the Utapau grunts under Commander Cody.  I think the green kind were originally intended to be from Kashyyyk under Gree.  Anyhow, I did those customs but with orange instead of green:

(http://kevvo.250free.com/kevpics2.jpg)

Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 5, 2005, 05:17 PM
Wow, nice job! like those :o
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Diddly on September 5, 2005, 06:47 PM
OH MY GOD L :o :o K AT THIS

SUPER RARE Bionic Ninja Clone Trooper Prototype! Never made by Hasbro! (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-ROTS-Bionic-Ninja-Clone-Trooper-Variation_W0QQitemZ5997355755QQcategoryZ101609QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

 ::)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ryan on September 5, 2005, 07:14 PM
OH MY GOD L :o :o K AT THIS

SUPER RARE Bionic Ninja Clone Trooper Prototype! Never made by Hasbro! (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-ROTS-Bionic-Ninja-Clone-Trooper-Variation_W0QQitemZ5997355755QQcategoryZ101609QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

 ::)

Just you wait some moron will bid $50 on that.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 5, 2005, 08:01 PM
I will be watching this one closely for the first sign of bidder stupidity.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Reid on September 5, 2005, 08:46 PM
OH MY GOD L :o :o K AT THIS

SUPER RARE Bionic Ninja Clone Trooper Prototype! Never made by Hasbro! (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-ROTS-Bionic-Ninja-Clone-Trooper-Variation_W0QQitemZ5997355755QQcategoryZ101609QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

 ::)

Just you wait some moron will bid $50 on that.


 :D That's freakin' hilarious.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 5, 2005, 10:03 PM
OH MY GOD L :o :o K AT THIS

SUPER RARE Bionic Ninja Clone Trooper Prototype! Never made by Hasbro! (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-ROTS-Bionic-Ninja-Clone-Trooper-Variation_W0QQitemZ5997355755QQcategoryZ101609QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

 ::)

And his other auction:   :D

(http://i2.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/e0/7e/b1_1_b.JPG)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Nathan on September 5, 2005, 10:33 PM
I almost think those are a practical joke of some sort. Just testing to see if anyone's stupid enough to fall for it.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 5, 2005, 11:54 PM
LOL....were YOU?? ;)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 14, 2005, 10:20 PM
hey i shold have bid just to get another clone head for customizing and at 50 cents did not sound bad at all, screw the bionic crap!!!
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Brian on September 20, 2005, 09:49 AM
I just got the latest issue of Star Wars Insider (#84) yesterday, and there is a neat article in there detailing the various Commanders, Legions, etc. of the "Grand Army of the Republic".  The red clone commander figure Hasbro gave us earlier this year apparently has a name, Commander Deviss.  They also name a number of other commanders, as well as give further information on the background of Bacara, Gree, Cody, Bly, etc.  Also some nice pics and descriptions of other clones, including the "Galactic Marines" (snowtrooper-styled).  Anyways, it is probably considered EU anyways, but its kind of interesting.  Definitely makes me want figures of all of these guys, can't wait for Gree, Bly, and the 501st later this year...and I'm hoping we see Cody, Galactic Marines, and others next year ;).
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 20, 2005, 10:16 AM
I'm definitely going to be picking the new Insider up when it hits the newstands.  Thanks for the lowdown mosnab! :)

Now that we know the Red Commander's name, we just have to figure out the Green Commander's name.  Also, just to jump the gun, did it happen to say where Deviss was stationed (planet, division, that kind of thing)?

Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Brian on September 20, 2005, 10:21 AM
I haven't had a chance to read the entire article yet, but I don't remember seeing anything about the green commander so far.  As far as Commander Deviss, I won't recount the entire section dedicated to him (for those who are still waiting to get this issue), but here's a small excerpt:

"Commander Deviss was flash-trained as a Captain and assigned to the 327th Star Corps as leader of K Company.  During the Battle of Geonosis, his battalion (Hawkbat) was ordered to march directly into the withering fire of a Separatist spider droid column.  Hawkbat was almost completely wiped out, and Deviss risked his life to stay behind in a shallow bomb crater, tending to two critically injured soldiers."

It goes on to further detail some other action (Battle of Altyr V), and also that he was promoted for his bravery and initiative by Commander Bly.  When he achieved the rank of Commander, he took on the red ARC pauldron and kama, as well as the special macro-binocular helmet attachment.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2005, 10:22 AM
Now that we know the Red Commander's name, we just have to figure out the Green Commander's name.  Also, just to jump the gun, did it happen to say where Deviss was stationed (planet, division, that kind of thing)?

Well, given that the other Green Clone Commander's name is Gree, I'll go ahead and Dub the new Green #33 as Clone Commander Reen.  :P
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 20, 2005, 11:31 AM
It sounds like the article goes fairly in-depth from the excerpt you posted, mosnab, and from the small scan of the ARC Trooper/Jet Pack Clone section that SW.com put up last week.  I don't care so much for the EU stuff usually, but I'm really looking forward to picking this up to expand my knowledge base on the Clones.


Well, given that the other Green Clone Commander's name is Gree, I'll go ahead and Dub the new Green #33 as Clone Commander Reen.  :P

Hey, it's got to be better than other names in the SW galaxy.  "Elan Sleazebaggano" anyone?  :)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jayson on September 20, 2005, 11:48 AM
Now that we know the Red Commander's name, we just have to figure out the Green Commander's name.  Also, just to jump the gun, did it happen to say where Deviss was stationed (planet, division, that kind of thing)?

Well, given that the other Green Clone Commander's name is Gree, I'll go ahead and Dub the new Green #33 as Clone Commander Reen.  :P

What about Commander Grün

(Grün is German for Green) ;)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2005, 11:51 AM
[quote author=Jeff link=topic=8518.msg163152#msg163152
Well, given that the other Green Clone Commander's name is Gree, I'll go ahead and Dub the new Green #33 as Clone Commander Reen.  :P
Quote


Nice try Jeff ::)
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2005, 01:53 PM
I haven't had a chance to read the entire article yet, but I don't remember seeing anything about the green commander so far.  As far as Commander Deviss, I won't recount the entire section dedicated to him (for those who are still waiting to get this issue), but here's a small excerpt:

"Commander Deviss was flash-trained as a Captain and assigned to the 327th Star Corps as leader of K Company.  During the Battle of Geonosis, his battalion (Hawkbat) was ordered to march directly into the withering fire of a Separatist spider droid column.  Hawkbat was almost completely wiped out, and Deviss risked his life to stay behind in a shallow bomb crater, tending to two critically injured soldiers."

It goes on to further detail some other action (Battle of Altyr V), and also that he was promoted for his bravery and initiative by Commander Bly.  When he achieved the rank of Commander, he took on the red ARC pauldron and kama, as well as the special macro-binocular helmet attachment.

Well, the new explanation of the red #33 commander we got is a tad more sophisticated than Hasbro's original explanation of "Whoops!!  Um, that's Bly and he turned out to be yellow instead.  Sorry."
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2005, 04:39 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jesse James on September 20, 2005, 06:18 PM
Grun?  Not bad, I like that Jay...

The article's good, but not as in-depth as I was expecting.  For instance there's very little about Neyo in it and hell, he was in the movie!

Some interesting stuff though, including the first time I've read anything from LFL explaining the usefulness of the Kama (which basically mimiced fan speculation).  Also was interested when I read the "Marines" uniform was for all kinds of climates and wasn't cold-weather specific.  I'm still gonna say the ones in ESB are just the Stormies cold weather uniforms like handing out trench and mackinaw coats to GI's in the Bulge, but their getups were developed from the CW "Marines".  It gave good reasons for the gear though being useful on other harsh planets.

Very curious read...  Some of it strikes me as fanciful and sorta BS (typical EU) but some of it was really neat to read too.  I just wish it was more in-depth because I know it could've been.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on October 19, 2005, 02:22 PM
Anyone pick up any #41s lately? I just opened one and noticed the dookie marks on the armor are a lot heavier than the earlier ones I've bought. Looks pretty good.

Hey, they turned the belt rightside up, too.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: SilverZ on October 19, 2005, 05:53 PM
Hey, they turned the belt rightside up, too.

Ah, crap. I'd given up on them ever fixing that so I've been ignoring these when I spot them. I'll have to pick up a couple correct ones.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jayson on October 21, 2005, 05:04 PM
WOW! I was going to post this same thing about the belt. I hadn't heard of anyone else noticing that original  version was "flipped". Awesome!
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on October 21, 2005, 05:11 PM
WOW! I was going to post this same thing about the belt. I hadn't heard of anyone else noticing that original  version was "flipped". Awesome!

I sure as hell didn't notice. I read it on one of the forums. I doubt I would ever have had a clue.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on October 22, 2005, 11:15 AM
Under the category "WTF", the "corrected" #41 has the thingies on the belt pointing down. On page 7 of the ORTS Visual Dictionary, the Clone Trooper is clearly wearing a belt with them pointing up.

WTF?
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on October 24, 2005, 06:19 PM
Hey, waitaminute... Maybe these haven't been corrected. ??? All my 41s have belts pointing down. It's my Target clones and CW SAs that point up... My bad.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jesse James on December 19, 2005, 01:06 AM
So I was popping apart a #41 SA CLone the other day and I noticed something...  This seemed to answer a question I have pondered and I know others were wondering so I thought I'd post about it.

The belt, which I guess is upside down?  Well, I don't think Hasbro ever flipped the belt becuase there's notches in the rim of the belt that hold it in place on the figure's waist.  The notches are for some tabs that are part of the figure's waistline to fit into, and it would have required changing the mold (which really isn't possible, it would require a new mold actually) so the belt could be reversed.  The tabs/notches to keep the belt in place are what kept the belt from being turned rightside up during production runs.  At least this is what i'm guessing. was the cause ultimately.

Just thought some may find this interesting...  I can't see Hasbro changing the molds at all, not worth the cost to them, and the belt wouldn't sit right otherwise.  Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on December 19, 2005, 02:47 AM
Some of them are correct, though. The Target Neyo clone for one...
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jesse James on December 19, 2005, 04:17 AM
The Target Clone's a different sculpt.  It's the Clone Wars SA Clone...  The Shadow Troop is the same.  The #41's an entirely new sculpt.  The legs are a little better for posing due to how the hip is sculpted, that's the easiest way to tell them apart.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Ook on December 19, 2005, 05:42 PM
The Target Clone's a different sculpt.  It's the Clone Wars SA Clone...  The Shadow Troop is the same.  The #41's an entirely new sculpt.  The legs are a little better for posing due to how the hip is sculpted, that's the easiest way to tell them apart.

I'll be damned. Aside from the hole for the antenna, I thought it was the same fig.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Clone Commander on December 25, 2005, 07:24 PM
Same here!
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Jesse James on December 26, 2005, 03:19 AM
Yeah, it's easy to miss if you don't pop the figure open, or if you have it loose too really, but I know a number of people didn't catch it because they kept stuff on the card...  It's good of Hasbro to re-use that sculpt, it really is a great one, but at the same time I think the #41's superior even with the big slit in the back.  It's just a hair bit more crisp and sharp looking to my eyes.

The Clone Wars Clone is nothing to blow your nose at.  I'd take that sculpt any day of the week if it meant more on the pegs...  :)  Personally, I think Hasbro should be mixing up paint variations by using both the #6 and #41 sculpts, such as with the upcoming Utapau Grunt...  Distribute it heavily with both sculpts, make everyone happy...  And don't overdo it with paint variants.  You have (supposedly) the time, so don't require that all these molds need to be in use for all these different paintjobs at one time...  The Tact. Ops Clone would've been much better received if the #41 or #6 sculpts had been shipped along with the TE Gunner sculpt in the blue paintjob in an effort to satiate some demand...  Instead I guess the other sculpts were indisposed creating other "clones" at the same time.

Anyway, side rant there, sorry...
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Clone Commander on December 26, 2005, 04:27 PM
I wish they had stuck the AT-TE Gunners head on a 41's body, it would have made me and probably a few other people happy.
The legs on the gunner is great...a little iffy but they're good.
Title: Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
Post by: Dhivael on December 28, 2005, 11:58 PM
i agree, though i also wish they would have kept to the prototype and done the #65 on the 41 body :/