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Title: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 26, 2007, 12:40 PM
Is it me or is anyone else sick of seeing the Saga2 stuff restocked instead of the 30th TAC line? In Chicagoland & South Jersey Targets, Wal-Marts and TRUs keep restocking Saga2 figures! New fresh case of various assortments We are almost 5 months in 07! Whats the deal? I am glad I order on-line but I would like to army build with new stuff. Not buy more of the same just to get my star-crack fix.

Is this just these 2 areas or is this all over the country? Let me know I am very curious.
Title: Re: Almost May & Saga2 figures still restocked instead of 30th TAC figures
Post by: Jeff on April 26, 2007, 12:54 PM
It all goes back to this info we got from Hasbro last December:

Hasbro sent along a little 30th Anniversary Collection Update as part of this week's Q&A:

Quote
Due to unavoidable production delays, the first waves of Star Wars 30th Anniversary basic figures for 2007 will be delayed until March. We are looking at every way to get the figures in earlier, but fans should not expect to find them on shelf on 1/1 as we were hoping. We expect subsequent waves beyond the first to be on schedule shortly thereafter. We'll keep everyone updated as needed, but please be patient. Thanks!


Looks like we'll be seeing the Final 22 repack waves for a while...  :-\

Originally (in Fall-06) they said that the Saga2 stuff would ship through March-07, but I would guess that the reason we are still seeing Hasbro crank out more and more Saga2 remix cases into April (and maybe even May) is because they haven't fully caught up from the initial 30AC delay yet.  This way, it keeps at least a portion of the SW section filled for the retailers to keep making money on...

Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 26, 2007, 02:10 PM
I got you, but what does no makes sense there are producing more Saga2. I am just curious why the production run is not TAC since the tools are obviously being used. The delay was understood but they been out since late Febuary I would have figured it would be caught up by now.

Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Matt R. on April 26, 2007, 03:15 PM
It probably retailers cleaning out their storerooms.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Scott on April 26, 2007, 04:11 PM
You know what I was thinking the other day...how much of the delays happening in SWland are thanks to this guy:


(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/04/20/svSPIDERMAN_narrowweb__300x411,0.jpg)
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: ruiner on April 26, 2007, 05:15 PM
Not much. 

Looks like Spidey and friend are stagnant at retail.

The smaller size and ridiculous price probably aren't helping.

I can't say that I've seen new Saga2 figures being stocked, but I can say that I haven't seen new TAC figures being stocked.

That not's to say there isn't a glut of Saga **** clogging the pegs....
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Scott on April 26, 2007, 05:20 PM
Not much. 

Looks like Spidey and friend are stagnant at retail.

The smaller size and ridiculous price probably aren't helping.

I can't say that I've seen new Saga2 figures being stocked, but I can say that I haven't seen new TAC figures being stocked.

That not's to say there isn't a glut of Saga **** clogging the pegs....

I was thinking more on the factory to retail end of the deal...both were due out around the same time and what do you think Hasbro gave precedance to at all stages of the game:?
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: ruiner on April 26, 2007, 05:26 PM
Maybe, but I'm sure capacity isn't much of an issue for Hasbro in China.

If I had to guess, I'd have to say the delay in TAC was related to development time - they put a lot of work into those fancy cardbacks and most likely had to pay a freelance artist to draw and color each character.

Plus, you have the issue with the new coins, again character specific - each most likely requiring a new tool or insert.

I'm sure you know all of this - I'm just talking typing out loud.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: CHEWIE on April 26, 2007, 05:44 PM
SAGA2 figures continue to be restocked in my area too JACK.  When I see the pegs empty one day and come back just to see a ton more of the SAGA2 stuff, I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or just stand in the aisle with a blank look on my face.

 :P
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: David on April 26, 2007, 07:03 PM
or just stand in the aisle with a blank look on my face.

 :P

THAT's the face I make when I see all of the SAGA2 stuff.  :P

Strangely, I only see it at one Target in my area, the other stores have plenty of new stuff. That being said, the one Target happens to be the convenient arget thats a block away from my house, so its kind of a bummer.  :(
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Artoo on April 26, 2007, 07:08 PM
You know what I was thinking the other day...how much of the delays happening in SWland are thanks to this guy.
Don't forget good ol' Jack Sparrow.  ::)

I'm offically sick of TSC.....Unless I find it on sale.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Scott on April 26, 2007, 08:09 PM
I doubt Pirates stuff is contracted at the same factories Hasbro does business with
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on April 26, 2007, 08:11 PM
It probably retailers cleaning out their storerooms.

Actually, it's new mixes of old figures-- Hasbro has several new revisions which are just STARTING to ship this month, with quasi-new figures like Jango Fett with a red holo figure.   These will probably be available through at least the summer, and since Saga Legends and TSC share the same basic SKU, I wouldn't hold your breath for clearances either-- it's just going to transition from one to the other.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 27, 2007, 11:02 AM
SAGA2 figures continue to be restocked in my area too JACK.  When I see the pegs empty one day and come back just to see a ton more of the SAGA2 stuff, I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or just stand in the aisle with a blank look on my face. :P

I am so with you. I would buy an extra clone or duplicate figure for customs but now I need some really new stuff. I have Wave2, the new ships and the bantha but its not enough. I want to see the 30th statement in full glory not a mish-mosh mess. I give that same blank stare like something new will materialize on the shelf. Nothing worse than going into a store and leaving empty handed.

I too am sick of Saga2!
sopidey is not moving that well in every store I go to and Marvel Legends is like cancer - you cannot get rid of it! I am not sure about Spidey because Spidey 2 did not move that well. We will see.......
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Brian on April 27, 2007, 11:20 AM
Personally, I'm ready to see the TSC stuff go as well.  I'm glad its there for anyone who is still shopping for it, but I don't think there is much of it selling in our area at this point.  The clones (movie ones in particular) and astromechs are gone, and the other figures from those waves sit for the most part.  And, in our area (WM in particular) the TSC figures are holding back any TAC stocking.  Target and TRU have done a decent job keeping the two lines seperate, although they both have their pegwarmers there as well.  I hope that we aren't still seeing these on the pegs in June/July, I'd rather see more TAC out there - even if it is the Legends series.  Those would be more interesting than the same TSC pegwarmers.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 27, 2007, 11:32 AM
Warming pegs in a store near you:
White and Black Endor Troopers
Luke endor (He is slowly moving so he is the best of the lot)
Endor C3P0
Death Star troopers
Padme arena
Naboo Soldier
Admirial Jerr Jerrotting
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 27, 2007, 11:40 AM
Because 1 local WM got in 8 (yes 8!! ::)) cases of TSC the other day, I went in yesterday and saw so many once 'rare' figs like 12 Kashyyk scouts, 7 blue commanders, tons of engineers and #41 mold clones. There was also many SBD's and BD's in camo coloring as well.

What I hate is that we'll keep seeing these warming as well as the stoopid legends/H&V/Greatest Hits/whatever-they-call-their-peg-warming-refresher-wave-next line for the next 6 months ::). Now you'll have that much less room to stock TAC. And, please, no more lines of BS in here about how SKU's are different and it won't matter ect. It's all BS since my stores mix all the figs together on the pegs and don't differentiate anyway. It's relevant point too, since the last ratio of figs shipped was 3 cases TAC versus 8 cases of TSC-- at a continued ratio like that..it's gonna be a tough year for store finds :(.

Which is why I get really pissed when we get these stupid poles asking to vote on legends wave contents.
Those people that vote just feed Hasbro into believing that they can sell another refresher line once they look at their poll participation. Just like the pole on the front page about vehicle rereleases....Those options must have been placed by Hasbro themselves and forced to our collecting websites--since the only vehicle I've noticed for the last 5 years most folks have been clamoring for is the cloud car rerelease-- so why is that one not on the list?? Folks will continue to vote in these polls however to serve Hasbro's desires for resales ::)--they just better not be the ones who complain later about all the rehash/repaint garb.

DS    
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Jeff on April 27, 2007, 12:05 PM
the only vehicle I've noticed for the last 5 years most folks have been clamoring for is the cloud car rerelease-- so why is that one not on the list??

Not to side-track the thread, but the Cloud Car has never been released by Hasbro in the Modern Era, so it wasn't eligible for the current poll.  Our current poll features those five vehicles because they have all been released by Hasbro in the modern era and we've seen folks mention from time to time that they would like to see them brought back...

One of the upcoming polls is planned to be "Which Vintage Kenner vehicle would you most like to see get re-released?"  You'll get your chance to vote for the Cloud Car (or the Hoth Rebel Transport) then...  ;)
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 27, 2007, 12:25 PM
When is THAT poll, then? I don't want to miss that GRAND moment in my life.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: CHEWIE on April 27, 2007, 12:27 PM
I'm sick of the SAGA stuff too... even if the sku #'s are different, there's still NO ROOM for TAC figures at most stores so while they may have TAC stuff in the back, it's got nowhere to go.

 :P
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 27, 2007, 12:48 PM
I'm finding it bother me less and less as time goes on, partially because I'm buying some higher-end stuff too that I never did before (so money is spreading out more now), and I have to admit that it's nice to see figures like DS Gunner and AT-AT Driver sitting on pegs consistently.  I think stores should always have certain figures at all times, and well-done Imperial army builders top that list for me.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 27, 2007, 12:50 PM
Warming pegs in a store near you:

Death Star troopers


Gunners
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Diddly on April 27, 2007, 10:12 PM
WTF? I wish my areas were getting good pegwarmers, I'd love to pick up more Death Star Gunners and Endor troopers. All I can find are Endor 3PO, Jerjerrod, Leia Boussh and Greatest Battles Palpatine.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: speedermike on April 27, 2007, 11:32 PM
Eh, it's a drag.  But ever since 2002, I have have found every figure at retail eventually. 2 months from now we'll be sick of 30AC wave 2.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2007, 02:11 AM
I've not noticed the massive glut of Saga reshipments but then again I haven't exactly been frequenting retail as much as I'd like to of late.  The stuff some of you are seeing would be welcomed by me, but not all the End-Boo stuff...  I could stand more clone repaints, at least some of them anyway.

But the logjam it's creating at retail, I could just as easily do without Saga shipping at all right now.  30AC's been dead around me for a bit.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Nick on April 28, 2007, 04:08 AM
Over here in the UK Toys'r'us are still stocking the shelves with the Saga line but strangely ASDA (Walmart owned supermarket) have moved into toys and are getting the new waves in very quickly.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 28, 2007, 08:47 AM
As always, I feel the need to point out that Hasbro's constant statements of "They have different SKUs so one shouldn't affect stocking/ordering of the other" is inherently flawed due to retail attitude toward the toys themselves.  When WM/Target/TRU look at the pegs, regardless of whether or not the SKU on the end is for H&V/GB, TSC, or 30AC, and they're filled with gobs of figures, all they see is that the pegs are full and there is no need for reordering/restocking.  A sea of Jerjerrods is the same thing as full pegs of TSC repack waves, 30AC figures, or whatever.  To retail, full pegs are full pegs and different SKUs don't even enter into their equation.

The reshipments of TSC would not be bothering me as much if they were actually reshipping figures that people had difficulty finding or were interested in to begin with instead of General Riekkan, C-3P0 with the Battle Droid head (which will be out AGAIN in a few weeks on a new card), or TPM Obi-Wan.  But, that being said, I think shipping two lines concurrently is not only hurting the current product's availability, it's also hurting the line as a whole because the glut of pegwarming TSC stuff is just sending the overall message to retail that SW isn't selling well.

And for the record, one of my local WMs has nothing but Jerjerrod, Endor Threepio, and Emperor Palpatine figures from TSC on the pegs, jammed full to the point of overflowing.  There are two 30AC Obi-Wans and 4 R2-D2s, but they're often pushed aside due to the overflow.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Artoo on April 28, 2007, 09:21 AM
In my area it's Final 22 & Vaders. Even Lushros, 3PO & Jerjerrod have said "Bye-Bye" to the pegs. What the ****!!?? We'll be seeing TSC into May!!! I might as well give up on TAC now & become a completist on TSC. God damn! There's not even a sign of the TAC pegwarmers!!! The delay for TAC is over, can theTSC line & only ship TAC. Man, Hasbro sucks at shipping the good figures this year!
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 28, 2007, 09:42 AM
I was thinking along the same lines as Scott. We should be seeing the TAC next month during the anniversary push.

But yeah, Final 22 is everywhere. Wasn't quite sure if I'd be leaving Elites and Appos on the pegs, but here we are.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: David on April 28, 2007, 02:21 PM
Oh how collecting would be ruined for me if TSC **** was still warming in the anniversary month, and the only actual anniversary figs to be had would be obis and R2s. Man that would suck!

Warming at my Targets:
Endor Troopers
Lushros Dofine (STILL!)
Padme arena
Cloud City Chewbacca
Bespin Confession Vader
Clone Sergeant

And the Episode 6 tins.

And its PISSING ME OFF!!!
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Ben on April 29, 2007, 10:53 PM
I went out of town this weekend, and found about five of those damn remix cases at a busy WM.

And I didn't find any SW or Transformers exclusives, which is what I was looking for.  ::)
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Brian on May 2, 2007, 04:15 PM
I stopped by Wal-Mart for the first time in 2 or 3 weeks today (it was a nice break), and didn't see anything new.  I'm not sure if they've restocked with these remix cases or what, but they are just stuffed with TSC figures.  Still absolutely no sign of TAC figures, and I'm not sure they will even get any of Wave 1 before Wave 3 starts hitting.  I didn't really take the time to look closer, but I saw a lot of Enboo stuff, as well as the Greatest Battles figures.  I don't recall seeing any of the "Final 22" figures, aside from a lone Labria that's been sitting there for a bit.  In fact, I don't think I've ever seen Wave 8 or 9 there at all.  I guess its ok, because I've been able to cut WM out of my collecting runs, which is ok with me.  They did have two of the Wave 1 comic packs (both Vaders), and the newer Galactic Heroes/Unleashed BPs, but as far as the basic figure line, its been the same thing since the start of 07, if not longer.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: CHEWIE on May 2, 2007, 05:05 PM
I just can't wait for retailers to start clearancing the SAGA stuff.  It's really, really annoying to see the same figures every time I go on a toy run... really - it's the Endor/Naboo wave that seems to be causing the biggest backup in my area.  Every single retailer has too many of those figures.

 :P
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Jesse James on May 3, 2007, 01:36 AM
Count Pittsburgh among this phenomenon now too.  Every WM I visit is littered with Saga, some TRU's have restocked Saga, and Target has gotten in a bit as well.

I've seen everything from Restocks of the "Wal-Mart Wave" (full sets again) to 5th Fleet, to End-Boo, to Veers/AT-AT Drivers again.  Even Scorch and some other tougher to find figures are reappearing, but oddly I've seen only like 1 Sandtrooper...

Definite pegwarmers?  Jerjerrod, Leia Boussh, Arena Padme, Ktik, Labria, and much of the End-Boo Wave (Soldiers/Troopers especially).

30AC is definitely taking a back seat right now.  Not even pegspace for them.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: darth punkinhed on May 3, 2007, 12:52 PM
I'm not sure if this is an insight into what may be going on or not. My nephew recently got a job at Wal-mart as one of those stalkers that go around following you because they think your stealing s***t. I asked if he could see if any of the stores he was training at could see if they were going to put out any of the 30AC figures and all of them basically said the same thing, as long as the pegs are stocked they probably won't even be ordering any of them since the ordering process is triggered by sales. That said I knew which Wal-Marts not to check that night to see if anything was going to be stocked. So I got lucky at the one and only Wal-Mart I hit that night. Here's the thing though, they had about 8 cases of star wars figures and only two were 30AC. I took 1 whole case, which I believe is wave 2 since it had 1 each of the mcboba and mcstormie along with no other duplicates and the extra boba and stormie from the other case for openers. Of the remaining 6 cases all were Saga so I didn't pay much attention to them other than 4 were 1 wave and 2 were another. The stock person though was actually nice and didn't mind me going through the pallet of stuff so I thought that was odd but welcome. It just sounds like Wal-Mart's not going to be much of an option for 30AC until near the middle/end of the waves.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: David on May 4, 2007, 11:05 AM
Alright, I saw something yesterday as I hunted for TAC figs that got me VERY angry. At one of the Targets that I always thought was one of the best, the pegs were FULL, FULL as can be. And not of TAC stuff, but TSC crap. Endor Troopers, Jerjerod, Ewok Diety 3PO, Naboo Soldiers, Hoth and Endor Vaders, and Rieekan, Rieekan, Rieekan. That really pissed me off. If I cant find one more TAC by the actual anniversary date, then I quit!!!  >:(

I mean, there werent even any ******* COIN ALBUMS or even Obis!!!
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: I Am Sith on May 4, 2007, 11:15 AM
I just moved up to Wisconsin from Illinois and went on my first toy run the other day.  In the area, there is only a Target, so I'm SOL for WM and TRU exclusives.  Unfortunately, the Target only had Enboo figures and three TAC white TIE Fighters.  Thankfully they at least had pegs for TAC figures, but they were nowhere to be seen, nor in the stockroom.  No Comic 2-Pack pegs, no space for Battle Packs, no Order-66 packs either...

I think I've found another reason to hate moving!
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: David on May 4, 2007, 11:18 AM
I just moved up to Wisconsin from Illinois and went on my first toy run the other day.  In the area, there is only a Target, so I'm SOL for WM and TRU exclusives.  Unfortunately, the Target only had Enboo figures and three TAC white TIE Fighters.  Thankfully they at least had pegs for TAC figures, but they were nowhere to be seen, nor in the stockroom.  No Comic 2-Pack pegs, no space for Battle Packs, no Order-66 packs either...

I think I've found another reason to hate moving!

Holy crap! Thats almost exactly what I saw, there were also three TIEs at my Target I was just omplaining about! Are you sure you were in Wisconsin?  :o
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: I Am Sith on May 4, 2007, 12:40 PM
Holy crap! Thats almost exactly what I saw, there were also three TIEs at my Target I was just omplaining about! Are you sure you were in Wisconsin?  :o

Alas, I wish I were in Hawaii but instead I'm in southern Wisconsin...
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Nicklab on May 5, 2007, 01:56 PM
Saw a perfect example of this last night.  A store had their freight out on the floor and I found 5 cases of TSC and 1 case of 30AC.  Whu?!?!?
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: David on May 5, 2007, 08:09 PM
I saw ANOTHER perfect example of this 2day, what the fu*k is up with this? Just TSC sh!t, TSC sh!t, and more TSC sh!t!!! I quit [again.]

But Ill return to collecting once I find a single TAC.  ;D
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JangoTat on May 5, 2007, 10:44 PM
im actually noticing more TAC. at my local TRU every wave 1 figure except for stormy and AB are pegwarming...yes even the marine!
 and although there are a tone of TSC stuff beside it its the only store around me with more then 5.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 6, 2007, 11:47 AM
I honestly don't think that any of the local WMs are going to get any more 30AC anytime soon (as it is, they only got Wave One a couple of times) due to the TSC glut.  Hearing that the Saga Legends stuff is shipping under the same SKU as the TSC stuff will probably hold those figures back for quite a while (although that isn't necessarily a bad thing on the first few waves with all the pointless rereleases of the same old figures over and over again) as well. 

I've said it before and I'll say it again:  Hasbro can go on and on about how TSC and 30AC are under different SKUs and how the stock status of one doesn't affect the other in any way, shape, or form, but walking into any Wal-Mart will show just how flawed that thinking is.  When stock people who aren't getting paid nearly enough to care what they're stocking see pegs full of SW, they don't stock anymore SW.  TSC, 30AC, vintage, it doesn't matter to most stock people.  If there's full pegs of Jerjerrods, it's essentially a signal that they don't need to put out any stock at all.

Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Deanna Rash on May 6, 2007, 12:00 PM
The Targets and the Wally's been marking these down to get rid of them.Picked up alot of clones from wave 8 and 9
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: David on May 6, 2007, 12:48 PM
I found R2, Obi, and Mace yesterday. Got R2! (I've been desperate to get some of these so anything is fair game).
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 8, 2007, 02:46 PM
I am glad to see how this thread I started blossomed. I have been going on so many Toy runs in IL and NJ and knockers the same story Saga2 keeps on truck'n! I have helped Hasbro out myh custom biz but this is ridiculous over 5 months in the year and its the same story. they have some serious explaining to do because they have really hurt the momentum SW had in the toy aisle. I am so glad I have been ordering online because this really sucks, even online retailers are suffering.

I want new ****! and like now!
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: ruiner on May 8, 2007, 03:16 PM
How ironic.

The year I quit online ordering, I can't find anything in the stores.  But yes, it does boggle the mind why Hasbro would want to produce old TSC figures this late in the game....


Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Jesse James on May 8, 2007, 03:34 PM
We're swimming in TSC stuff right now.  One TRU I visit has very few 30AC but multiple pegs filled with just one Clone, the Engineer...  Weird store.  Why just this one Clone is there en masse, I have no idea.  He's not even a bad figure, he's just filling the pegs at this one store.

Every WM is filled with TSC though from the first wave through the last...  It's insane.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 8, 2007, 03:38 PM
We're swimming in TSC stuff right now.  One TRU I visit has very few 30AC but multiple pegs filled with just one Clone, the Engineer...  Weird store.  Why just this one Clone is there en masse, I have no idea.  He's not even a bad figure, he's just filling the pegs at this one store.


Sounds like a scalper or hoarder return of some kind.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Jesse James on May 8, 2007, 03:39 PM
I dunno, everything else is gone...  Even crummy figures, and this one's not too bad.  If he did do a return, he picked an odd figure to return while everything else sold.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Brian on May 8, 2007, 03:41 PM
It almost seems to be getting worse here.  Wal-Mart still is just packed with TSC stuff, as it has been since last year.  No sign of TAC basic figures, and I don't expect that to change anytime soon.  They have a lot of TSC stock to get through.  Target did have a nice mix of the two lines (although the TAC figures were mainly Obi-Wan and R2), but now even their TAC pegs are starting to get taken over by TSC figures (and ones that weren't there before).  TRU is in the same situation, usually just a couple TAC figures (Obi-Wan and R2), and TSC stuff (especially Jerjerrod).  Also, for all of the TSC figures hanging at the three main stores, I don't think hardly any of them are "Final 22" figures, but earlier stuff for the most part.

If it wasn't for some online orders (BBTS and HTS), I wouldn't be even close to caught up with things.  Funny thing is, the only Wave 2 figure I've seen at retail at all here is the lone McQuarrie Fett I ran across a couple of weeks ago.  Weird.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 8, 2007, 04:15 PM
I'm tellin' ya all of the sudden in a lot of areas like mine, Jesse's, Brian's, even in July, you're going to see a mass shelf stocking of Waves 1 and 2 even, along with 3 and 4 sprinkled in.  I've noticed for a while that while the wave of the moment is decently stocked in some stores, the majority of stores really put that wave out in force up to 3 months after it's initially released.

They're stocking the Appo wave like mad here right now.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 8, 2007, 04:39 PM
I don't get it Dress? Are saying in a month or two you'll be seeing alot of wave 8,9 Saga(final 22). Your post looks confusing with wave 1,2,3,4 on there-those cases stopped distributing;however some figs from those cases are redistributed in the wave 7,8 cases hitting the stores now.

Those damned wave 8 rev?(whatever rev it is at that time) cases are still coming en masse to our local stores right now. I can't wait until we're done with this-however, then the next pegwarming line will hit the 'Legends-Hasbro-make-a-buck-off-you line.'

DS   
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 8, 2007, 05:58 PM
I don't get it Dress? Are saying in a month or two you'll be seeing alot of wave 8,9 Saga(final 22). Your post looks confusing with wave 1,2,3,4 on there-those cases stopped distributing;however some figs from those cases are redistributed in the wave 7,8 cases hitting the stores now.


DS   

Maybe it was confusing I just woke up from a nap  :)

What I was saying was that I think that 30AC waves 1 and 2, which some people are having trouble finding right now, will be stocked on pegs even 3 months from now.  Even as people are out looking for Waves 3 and 4, I think waves 1 and 2 will be reaching plentiful levels.

Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Diddly on May 8, 2007, 07:03 PM
So I have an hour yto kill today and check out a Wal-Mart in the area (that's only been open for 2 months) and all I find is stuff from the HOTH AND CORUSCANT WAVES. How the **** did those get here? However, said WM also had the new Titaniums, Sith Infiltrator, and the V-Wing (which I stashed for purchase later).

It was a relief to not see any Jerjerrods or Ewok Throne 3POs but crimany, I haven't seen new 30AC stuff in months. Getting VERY sick of TSC...
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 8, 2007, 07:30 PM
So I have an hour yto kill today and check out a Wal-Mart in the area (that's only been open for 2 months) and all I find is stuff from the HOTH AND CORUSCANT WAVES. How the **** did those get here? However, said WM also had the new Titaniums, Sith Infiltrator, and the V-Wing (which I stashed for purchase later).

It was a relief to not see any Jerjerrods or Ewok Throne 3POs but crimany, I haven't seen new 30AC stuff in months. Getting VERY sick of TSC...

Yeah I've been seeing that too it's a revision Wave 8 and Appo is in there with Veers, AT-AT Driver, SG Obi Wan, Sora Bulq, 3-P0 battle droid head and a few others.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 10, 2007, 09:54 AM
I hit my local Wal-Mart at the right time, intresting sight too. They got 8 case of SW figures in. 5 were the saga revision cases of wave 9 and mish-mosh cases with too many saga2 figures to list. They had 3 cases of TAC. Wave 1 & 2 plus a revision case with 1&2 combined. The new revision case has 1 MQ Stormtrooper and Boba which is great. One of the cases was pillaged and re tapped so it was a stock guy but I managed to snag 4 DS Troopers, 2 Honor Guards, x2 MQ Stormie's, x2 MQ Bobas. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come and the last of the Saga2 is shipped. This is the most TAC I have ever scene in one location. :D

I started this thread but I now have some hope that we see the light at the end of the toy aisle.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Brian on May 10, 2007, 12:59 PM
Our local Target was about the only store in town that was even stocking the TAC line (TRU a little too, but not much), but I've noticed this week that they have even sold out of all the Obi-Wans and R2s they had hanging on the pegs.  There is now nothing but TSC figures on the pegs at all of the "Big 3" in town - WM, Target, and TRU.  Hopefully that won't continue for too long.  I don't always check closely which figures are stocked, but it doesn't seem as if they are selling much at all (the TSC figures, that is).
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 10, 2007, 02:53 PM
When/if these Saga waves go on sale (at least the ones at Target), I'm good for half a dozen or more figures.  They have a couple DS Gunners, AT-AT Drivers, and I can always use another articulated knee 3-PO or Jerjerrod to convert to another Imperial.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Jesse James on May 10, 2007, 04:24 PM
I found what I think were the remnants of a single case...  Still not getting the big shipments around here but hopefully soon they'll quit with the Saga stuff and move onto 30AC.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Ryan on May 10, 2007, 06:35 PM
I found what I think were the remnants of a single case...  Still not getting the big shipments around here but hopefully soon they'll quit with the Saga stuff and move onto 30AC.

You'd think so wouldn't you? My WM seemed to be headed down a similar trail, they still had close to 50 or 60 TSC figures compared to about half a dozen to dozen 30AC Wave 1 remnants. I went in the other night and the 30AC number had shrunk but there were about 30 more TSC figures... I can't remember the last time I found anything there, and that was the place I could hit on midnight runs. One year ago this time I was finding everything there, and in decent numbers too. Over the last few months that store has been completely worthless. The local TRU has given me better luck...
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 10, 2007, 08:49 PM
The local Target, who never fails to amaze me in their stocking habits, did the most asinine thing I believe they've done in a months in the SW action figure aisle (actually stocking isn't the most asinine thing, since they rarely do that at all anymore):

One of the two pegs devoted to the 30AC figures was removed, leaving three Obi-Wans and three R2s on the single peg, the eight pegs above devoted to TSC were restocked with the Endboo stuff, and the old second 30AC peg was replaced with YET ANOTHER PEG of SW Transformers.  Because, you know, they're selling so well.   ::)

I don't know what's worse:  Wal-Mart's armada o'Jerjerrods or Target stocking in reverse.  :P
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: P-Siddy on May 10, 2007, 09:04 PM
You know, I wish I could find the Podracer 2-pack... I just decided I'd like one.... now I can't find them.  :-\
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: I Am Sith on May 11, 2007, 08:30 AM
I ended up calling my new WI local Target to see if they had any TAC figures in and the sales associate didn't even know what the figures were...  At least you guys are seeing them.  Looks like I'm going to have to wait until July or so to start seeing them here...
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: CHEWIE on May 11, 2007, 11:58 AM
Keep checking Hasbro Toy Shop (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=495&SBR=78)...

 :P
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Brian on May 14, 2007, 10:04 AM
I hit all of our local stores over the weekend, and all three (TRU, Target, and WM) are pretty stuffed with TSC figures now.  Target has started stocking TSC stuff on the TAC pegs now as well, and it looks to be older stuff (Grievous, Death Star Gunners, etc.).  I went ahead and ordered the extra DSTs I wanted from Hasbro Toy Shop, because it doesn't look like TAC will be showing anytime soon around here.  I think I'm set until Wave 3 starts to hit, so its no big deal, but honestly without the combo of HTS and BBTS, I'd be looking for a lot of stuff still at this point.  With the gas prices what they are, and now this stocking issue, ordering things online is becoming a lot more appealing.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 15, 2007, 09:43 AM
There's been an aweful lot of TAC activity at Target around here this week, so I decided to check in at WM. To my... confusement... I found 10 cases of last years final 5 waiting to be stocked.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Jesse James on May 15, 2007, 08:55 PM
I'm seeing dribs and drabs of the final 5 as well Anthony, but lately either TSC's done shipping around me or it's just drying up a slight bit during a TSC shipment lull...  30AC's still shipping like crap though, and nowhere to be found for the most part.  Case here, case there, nothing more.
Title: TSC still here!
Post by: Clones on June 24, 2007, 04:34 PM
Hey all,

I've been very annoyed lately to find that most stores still have a lot of TSC nleaving no room for TAC figures.  >:(

What's worse is the fact that it is June and TAC was released almost 4 months ago. What's up with that? I'm not sure if it's just NJ that's being affected, I know Baltimore, MD must be having these same problems, I was down there a couple weeks ago and I only found one or two pegs of TAC and they were just pegwarmers. The rest was TSC. Personally, I think the delay of TAC's release threw sonme things off balance.

Is this happening in your area?
Title: Re: TSC still here!
Post by: JangoTat on June 24, 2007, 04:43 PM
up here in Canada it been fairly decent. i dont see much TSC anymore unless its at TRU, but even then all they have been stocking is TAC. and TAC still has a good 8 or 9 pegs all to itself.
Title: Re: TSC still here!
Post by: Rob on June 24, 2007, 07:42 PM
4 of the Targets I went to yesterday had FRESH saga stock on the shelves.  Commander Appos, Elite Corps...  lots of it.

Definitely obnoxious.
Title: Re: TSC still here!
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 25, 2007, 09:50 AM
I've noticed the same thing as Rob.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: David on June 25, 2007, 07:32 PM
I like finally seeing the army builders I could never find last year out en masse. At least theres still some TAC around in my area. In SJ it is definitely starting to even out.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Nirvana on June 26, 2007, 07:28 AM
Maybe the title should be changed now. How bout "It's Almost JULY?"  :-\

I'll vouch for Jesse and say that it's probably worse on my side of the city. One WalMart I frequent has about 30 TSC figures, ALL Endor 3-P0s and Vaders. The only TAC they have are about 10 Obis and R2s.

I haven't even seen all of Wave 2 on the pegs, not a single McTrooper or Fett, not one figure of Wave 3, etc.

Maybe I just hit the stores at the wrong time, but I swear most are still getting TSC as their main SW product. It's incredibly annoying. I think a year and a half is long enough.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2007, 10:29 AM
Why doesn't this stuff ever get clearanced out?

It's very rare that I see anything marked down.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Brian on June 26, 2007, 10:39 AM
It seems like TSC figures are finally disappearing from Target and TRU, although our local Wal-Mart is just crazy stuffed with these.  There hasn't been a single TAC basic figure on the pegs there all year, and unless they do a clearance, I don't see any on the way.  They are primarily Enboo figures, although I noticed they are now starting to stock some of the Final 22 figures, since they apparently haven't gotten those out there yet.  I'm starting to question whether TAC will even make it to this store this year.  If so, its going to be Wave 1 in time for Christmas, unless they decide to skip a few waves to catch up.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: DoctorPadawan on June 27, 2007, 08:41 PM
Why doesn't this stuff ever get clearanced out?

It's very rare that I see anything marked down.

The 2006 Saga Collection figure SKU is still active, as it is the exact same SKU for the 2007 30AC Saga Legends.  For a store to clearance the 2006 Saga figures and still get the 2007 Legends, they would have to go through and delete individual figure UPCs from their system, and stores just don't care enough or have the time to sit down and delete all the 2006 stuff.  As I've said before, ad nauseum, to retailers like Wal-Mart and Target, SW figures are SW figures, whether they're 2006, 2007, Saga, 30AC, or whatever other variations on the theme.

By that same rationale, when Target got in the Saga Legends stuff and sold through them, the stores automatically reorder that SKU, and since apparently there was more 2006 Saga stuff available to ship than there was 2007 30AC Legends, that's what Target got, and apparently in much larger numbers than the Saga Legends stuff originally shipped in.  Therefore, even though we bought the new, all we got in its place is even more of the old.  Hasbro really shot itself in the foot by keeping the 2006 TSC SKU for the 2007 Legends, because not only are the pegs constantly full of last year's product, there's a 50/50 chance that when stores reorder that SKU, old figures is what they'll get.  The only caveat to that is that the 2006 stuff just isn't selling right now, so there probably won't be more of either assortment coming due to the full pegs.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Wookiee_Smuggler on June 28, 2007, 03:12 PM
Not much 30th anniversary stuff out there... wal-mart has very little new stuff and when it comes in it is gone quickly leaving the old stuff to collect dust on shelves
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Brian on July 6, 2007, 10:59 AM
I was just posting on the Indy thread, discussing movie tie-in lines, and it got me to thinking about Star Wars.  I've really been impressed, especially since 2005 or so, how Star Wars seems to always consistently sell through.  Even this year, a non-movie year, I would see gobs of Obi-Wans/R2s from Wave 1 on the pegs, thinking they would never sell - only to slowly sell through.

The exception to this rule now though seems to be the TSC remnants at our stores.  Wal-Mart is the worst culprit, with 6-8 pegs absolutely packed (falling off) with TSC figures.  Although I haven't gone through them all individually, I don't know that any figures have sold off of those pegs in a month or more.  TRU and Target sometimes have a few TSC figures, but not too many, but those seem to be sitting as well.  Of course, if some sort of movie clone shows up, it will sell, but the others really seem to sit.  There hasn't been a single TAC figure at our local Wal-mart yet this year, and I don't see them getting any unless they movie this TSC stuff to a clearance aisle.  With rumors of those and Saga Legends having the same assortment number, I don't know if that will happen or not.  Anyways, its ok, because I don't mind avoiding Wal-Mart as a shopping destination - but it is just amazing how much TSC stuff has been sitting there.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 8, 2007, 11:49 AM
I think it would be a different situation were the variety at stores a little more, well, varied.  Despite what Hasbro claims, nearly every Wal-Mart I've been in, over several states and several months, has the same stock of 2006 TSC figures, although the numbers vary.  That would be:

-At least 20 Endor Threepios
-Between 5 and 20 Jerjerrods
-Between 5 and 20 GB Padmes
-Between 5 and 20 GB Threepios
-Varying amounts (usually between 1 and 5) Labrias, R4-G9s, and Emperor Palpatines

And, for the most part, absolutely nothing else.  If there are any 30AC figures at all, they're multiples of Obi-Wan and R2-D2.  Were the above top 4 figures simply recalled by Hasbro, the majority of the pegwarmer problem with TSC figures would be solved overnight.  But Hasbro continues to stick to their "what you are experiencing on a regional level is not happening nationally" excuse, stores continue to sit on the same action figure stock for months on end (some of these figures have been there a year now), and we continue to see no new 30AC product in decent numbers.

Jeez, what happened to the days of Hasbro reps who would actually go around and check stock status and report back to Hasbro on this stuff?
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 16, 2007, 11:24 AM
It still remains a concern of mine on the sheer number of non-selling SAGA product. At least 1 out of 4 WM stores in my area placed all the SAGA figs in a clearance isle for 4$ each. The numbers and types for the SAGA pegwarmers reflect Doc's list with one exception I'd add 2-5 'QTIP head jedi's per store to the mix.

My local Targets don't seem to have the problem near the scale of WM's as far as SAGA pegwarmers(they possibly have between 3-10 total per store) this is likely due to the lower volume of figures their stores receive when compared with WM.

Still, with Legends figures coming..and only 20 of the 60 TAC released to date I don't anticipate seeing all the new TAC waves on the shelves due to all the congestion :P.

DS
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 23, 2007, 02:30 PM
In Chicago land the only Saga2 figures you find are:

Rebel Troopers (Both)
C3P0
Luke endor
Riekien

Outside of the couple left it seems this area is all about dried up. TAC is actually filling pegs. I have to admit I am a little sad,it the passing of an age. I really helped clear DSG, Lukes, Obis for customs I sell. Hasbro owes me.....
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: David on January 27, 2008, 07:38 PM
I was at Target the other day and saw two ROTS figures (Kit, Saesee). It was very weird. There were also about 10 pegs full of Saga stuff (Threepio, Endor Troopers, Power Droids, Rieekans, other pegawrmers. No surprises). Only a few pegs of 2007 stuff, most of which was Saga Legends. It's almost February 2008! Is anyone else still seeing old stuff on the pegs and in what quantities? 
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Jesse James on January 28, 2008, 01:53 AM
Oh by far and away at Target that is 50% of what I see...  Though the ROTS figures were a bit odd and not something I see.

I do see half the pegs at most targets stocked full with 2006 figures though.  Lots of Jerjerrod and Riekean in particular.  30AC stock varies.

My WM was down to 3 figures recently out of about 10 pegs, and they were all 2006 figures...  Those turds won't flush.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 28, 2008, 02:27 AM
My TRU still has 4 pegs full of those stupid Naboo Troopers, so between 30 and 40 of them.  Oh, and 1 Bib Fortuna.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: Morgbug on January 28, 2008, 02:54 PM
My TRU still has 4 pegs full of those stupid Naboo Troopers, so between 30 and 40 of them.  Oh, and 1 Bib Fortuna.

Hah, you got nothin' to complain about.  One of my TRUs is really good about carrying Star Wars and it's still a large section, about 20 or so pegs for single carded figures.  Fully half of those are Saga2 figure and not all of them are mustard troopers.  JarJar's cousin is up with  along with Gragra and others.  It's pitiful.  The other TRU has piles of figures left over too, just not quite as many.  I'm betting there are still boxes in the back too. 

On the bright side I think the Shmi's are all gone now.  Finally.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: JangoTat on January 28, 2008, 03:03 PM
My TRU still has 4 pegs full of those stupid Naboo Troopers, so between 30 and 40 of them.  Oh, and 1 Bib Fortuna.



Hah, you got nothin' to complain about.  One of my TRUs is really good about carrying Star Wars and it's still a large section, about 20 or so pegs for single carded figures.  Fully half of those are Saga2 figure and not all of them are mustard troopers.  JarJar's cousin is up with  along with Gragra and others.  It's pitiful.  The other TRU has piles of figures left over too, just not quite as many.  I'm betting there are still boxes in the back too. 

On the bright side I think the Shmi's are all gone now.  Finally.


the two TRU within driving distance of my home is exactly the same only problem is that not only do we now have 10 pegs full of the enboo wave we also have about 12 full of TAC wave 4 pegwarmers.both the stores have maybe one or two pegs that are empty. everything else is filled with pegwarmers.
Title: Re: It's Almost May and Saga2 is Still Being Restocked In Place of 30AC
Post by: DoctorPadawan on January 28, 2008, 06:32 PM
The closest Wal-Mart to my home still has nothing but Jerjerrod and Threepio from 2006.  Well, I am exaggerating a bit:  they have 12 pegs total, eight of which are filled with nothing but Jerjerrod and Endor Threepio from 2006, along with four essentially empty pegs with a single Death Star Trooper hanging on them.  There is not a decent card amongst them and they are covered in dust.  I was hoping that when they did their reset, they'd figure out that they had about 60 figures, 59 of which were the same two figures, but as with the four other resets since those figures first shipped, no dice.

I will celebrate when the Saga Legends SKU is finally deleted, if only because they might finally clearance Jerjerrod and Endor Threepio out and actually get some new figures in decent numbers for the first time since that wave hit last year.   >:(