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Title: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 05:38 PM
*I've updated with pics of a concept V.2 Stormtrooper*

Hey guys, this is my first post on this board, so be kind ;).  Darth Delicious, whom I've corresponded with on the Rebelscum forums, invited me to join this board and show of some of my Clone concepts.  I guess I got bitten by the Clone bug really bad ;D.  Anyway, I've been trying to do some commission work for anybody interested in creating their own Clone character(s).  You come up with the concept/idea, send me any vital information/pics that you think needs to be incorporated into the design and I'll work with you to come up with a character specific to your desire.  Clones are my specialty, but I think I'll eventually venture into Jedi and possibly Droids.  I haven't had any luck in RS boards (many people with ideas, none willing to pay or trade), so I figured that I'd try it out here.  With the exception of the Airborne, Halo, Recon and Elite Clone troopers, which are designed by fellow RS board member AESEVEN7 (who actually did all the custom figures pictured also) and then illustrated by me, all the characters were designed and rendered by yours truly.  Anyway, I have a meager want list for anybody who might want to try it out, I'll follow up this post with my first character.

WANTS LIST:
K-Mart Temple attack 5 pack x1
AOTC Geonosian War Room 3 pack (the set w/ San Hill)
Complete Jedi Council set (all pieces)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: CHEWIE on September 5, 2005, 05:48 PM
jubjub, welcome to the customizing community here.  I think you will find a very nice, mature crowd here who appreciates your work.

Most of us here make our own customs, but there are definitely times that commissions are in order.  I've been known to purchase an item from Owen D at www.owenscustoms.com from time to time.   ;)

Well, I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with.  I've seen your concepts over at scum, but haven't seen too many customs that I am aware of.  Bring on your clones, and as the clone bug slowly dies out, I'm sure we'll see some other cool things from you as well.   :)

 :P
Title: CLONE COMMISSAR STRAASHA
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 05:49 PM
This guy's look is part Russian and German in influence, hence the colors, long skirt, high neck collar, and tall helmet.  The helmet attachment is meant to be a comprehensive communications and sensory array, similar to what Commander Cody has, but more elaborate.  He comes with a high-powered sniper rifle...though a former ARC trooper of significance, he is mostly in a commanding position now.  I envisioned the rank of Commissar being established during the transition between Republic and Empire.  A direct liason between Palpatine and the vast beureacracy that was formerly the Grand Army of the Republic, the post became necessary when all the former commanding officers, the Jedi, became fugitives.  He commands the obedience of subjugated planets through force and propaganda.

(http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/5392/straashapic2small9bv.jpg)

(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3678/straasha2rx.jpg)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 05:52 PM
jubjub, welcome to the customizing community here.  I think you will find a very nice, mature crowd here who appreciates your work.

Most of us here make our own customs, but there are definitely times that commissions are in order.  I've been known to purchase an item from Owen D at www.owenscustoms.com from time to time.   ;)

Well, I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with.  I've seen your concepts over at scum, but haven't seen too many customs that I am aware of.  Bring on your clones, and as the clone bug slowly dies out, I'm sure we'll see some other cool things from you as well.   :)

 :P

Thanks for the kind welcome Chewy!  I am strangely transfixed by your avatar... :P
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: Ner_vod on September 5, 2005, 05:57 PM
Welcome JubJub! I saw your concepts at RS and loved the airborne trooper and the halo trooper! :D
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: Ryan on September 5, 2005, 06:15 PM
I think this one of my favorites of your's. Aseven7 did the custom correct? I Can definitely see the Russina/German influnences there. I really like color combo you went with and the long skirt is really cool, it sets it apart form other clone Commanders.

How do you draw these? Do you have a pad for your computer or are they hand drawn with pencil/paper the old fashioned way? I'm assuming you at least colorze it on the computer. I t always amazes me how people do that, it is something I want to learn but I don't think I'd be good at.

I'd like to see a Clone with some Roman Legionaire influences, I think that would look really cool.

It is great to see your work here, keep it up. :)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: Darth Delicious on September 5, 2005, 06:26 PM
Welcome, jubjub! I think you'll find this forum to be a little more detailed in it's feedback than over at RS. While there's not as much traffic, people here seem to be more concerned with helping others become better customizers than simply increasing their post count with messages like "Kewl!"

Commissar Strassha (sp?) is very cool, but to me he almost seems like a clone that gained individuality and went rogue, and became a warlord on some outer rim territory. Very cool and cold looking. The SS influence is pretty apparent and works well on this design.

Can't wait to see more! Don't keep us in suspense!

-DD
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 06:29 PM
I think this one of my favorites of your's. Aseven7 did the custom correct? I Can definitely see the Russina/German influnences there. I really like color combo you went with and the long skirt is really cool, it sets it apart form other clone Commanders.

How do you draw these? Do you have a pad for your computer or are they hand drawn with pencil/paper the old fashioned way? I'm assuming you at least colorze it on the computer. I t always amazes me how people do that, it is something I want to learn but I don't think I'd be good at.

I'd like to see a Clone with some Roman Legionaire influences, I think that would look really cool.

It is great to see your work here, keep it up. :)

Hey there!  Yes, AESEVEN7 did the custom figure.
The entire thing is pretty much rendered by hand, first a 2-step sketch on Vellum since I usually use a pre-posed template, photocopied or scanned and printed, rendered with markers and highlighted with pencils, and then color corrected and enchanced on Photoshop.  
I definitely want to do the Roman Legionaire influence eventually.  Though it's been done in the Warhammer 40,000 RPG universe quite a bit, there are still original ways to go about it.  Specifically, I want to use the horse mane/brush crest helmet-look in some way and still retain the SW look.

 
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: Gregorbian on September 5, 2005, 06:35 PM
Hey JubJub,

KEWL!  (jk  ::))

I sometimes lurk the RS Customs boards and I have been admiring your clone concepts for a while.  They are all very impressive - the amount of detail that goes into each is amazing and they all look great.  I'm pretty sure that all of your concept clones are way outta my league, but I hope some of the other guys here tackle some of them. 
I love that Clone Commissar.  Do you know about Warhammer 40k?  It reminds me of some of the Imperial Guard Commissars from that line.  That might be because they were influeced by the same historical references as you though.  Anyway, great concept and I hope to see some more!
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 06:38 PM
Welcome, jubjub! I think you'll find this forum to be a little more detailed in it's feedback than over at RS. While there's not as much traffic, people here seem to be more concerned with helping others become better customizers than simply increasing their post count with messages like "Kewl!"

Commissar Strassha (sp?) is very cool, but to me he almost seems like a clone that gained individuality and went rogue, and became a warlord on some outer rim territory. Very cool and cold looking. The SS influence is pretty apparent and works well on this design.

Can't wait to see more! Don't keep us in suspense!

-DD

Interesting!  It's great to see how other people interpret the same idea...that's one thing I like about doing this, it generates creativity in others!  I like your idea because I've been imagining a situation, post Order 66, where entire platoons in parts of the SW Galaxy either did not receive Order 66, or simply did not follow it due to genetic variation in the Clone process or otherwise.  Makes for interesting story-telling, something we will hopefully see in comics or the new TV series...

BTW, whose that in your avatar?  I'd like to get a closer look...
Title: AQUATIC CLONE COMMADO
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 06:45 PM
I figured that I'd use the EP2 helmet because there is something about it that says "fish/aquatic" to me, for some reason.  The weapon is Mon Calamari in design and works to destroy droid targets by ionizing the water within a specific, cone-shaped area.  It's similar to the larger scale Ion-cannon in that sense.  It also employs micro-torpedo projectiles for targets that simply need to explode/implode underwater.  Blasters simply don't work in water...at least I don't think they should.  These guys are basically launched into battle via torpedo tubes and have propullsion backpacks for quick movement underwater.  They are also armed with vibro-blades and equiped with re-breathers like the Jedi have for use in emergencies.


(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8840/aquaticcommandoclonesmall4za.jpg)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: Ryan on September 5, 2005, 06:51 PM
I love that one design as well. I agree on the EP2 helmet looking alomst aquatic, that is what the scuba troopers wear. I really like how sleek this guy is, the breather cables look great swept back and aren't bulky or in the way. The redesign arm/leg armor looks excellent as well. Those fins are fantastic, they have a really organic look to them. The mounted gun is a great idea, but I'm not sure it would be too practial when swimming unlewss you actually are a Mon-Cal, I guess that's what the backpacks are for. The color sceme is very well done. For some reason, I'm not sure why, but my favorite part is the knife, it really sells it as an underwater custom, it makes hime very SEAL like.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: Smartypants1635 on September 5, 2005, 07:16 PM
hye jubjub how s it going good to have you here your work is amazing, but first of im gonna have to make that aqua clone ;
second if thats ok with u and
third i was wondering when i have my squad done if youd do a poster of them with your awsome skills in drawing
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 07:19 PM
I love that one design as well. I agree on the EP2 helmet looking alomst aquatic, that is what the scuba troopers wear. I really like how sleek this guy is, the breather cables look great swept back and aren't bulky or in the way. The redesign arm/leg armor looks excellent as well. Those fins are fantastic, they have a really organic look to them. The mounted gun is a great idea, but I'm not sure it would be too practial when swimming unlewss you actually are a Mon-Cal, I guess that's what the backpacks are for. The color sceme is very well done. For some reason, I'm not sure why, but my favorite part is the knife, it really sells it as an underwater custom, it makes hime very SEAL like.

Yeah, I figured that you probably would need to have free arms anyway in an underwater battle, hence the jetpacks.  Heck, maybe the jets are directional based on visual information from the helmets ;D.  I usually try to throw in a few details that have definite real-world visual cues.  This makes the design somewhat recognizable in some way and the addition of the combat knife works in that same vein.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 07:51 PM
hye jubjub how s it going good to have you here your work is amazing, but first of im gonna have to make that aqua clone ;
second if thats ok with u and
third i was wondering when i have my squad done if youd do a poster of them with your awsome skills in drawing

Hey, sounds great!  I'd love to see plastic representations of any of these guys.  Let me know when you get your squad done!
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 07:56 PM
Hey JubJub,

KEWL!  (jk  ::))

I sometimes lurk the RS Customs boards and I have been admiring your clone concepts for a while.  They are all very impressive - the amount of detail that goes into each is amazing and they all look great.  I'm pretty sure that all of your concept clones are way outta my league, but I hope some of the other guys here tackle some of them. 
I love that Clone Commissar.  Do you know about Warhammer 40k?  It reminds me of some of the Imperial Guard Commissars from that line.  That might be because they were influeced by the same historical references as you though.  Anyway, great concept and I hope to see some more!

Yeah, I used to really be into WH40K back in the day, I painted the miniatures and what not, but I was mostly attracted to the mythos.  I believe that they were planning a CGI movie of Space Hulk for a time, weren't they?  I admit that I am also influenced by some of the ideas thrown around in that universe...hence my Close Combat Clone with power fist...
Title: SNIPER CLONE
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 08:08 PM
Sniper Clone. I was thinking of a helmet visor attachment of some sort that partially resembles the OT Death Star Gunner helmets. This is suppose to be dedicated to his sniper rifle and is connected as such. The helmet and gun work together, the helmet constantly recalibrating the rifle based on range, atmospheric conditions, surface density of target, etc. He always get's his target.  Incidetally, the helmet started to remind me of the Alien creature from the Aliens franchise, so added the triangles on his mouthpiece to resemble teeth of sorts.

(http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/3039/sniperclonesmall1ro.jpg)

Custom made by Siuol_Fett over at the RS boards...
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7302/clonesniper1mj.jpg)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: ThePerennial on September 5, 2005, 09:07 PM
Hey JubJub!

 Nice to see you joining here! Your illustrations have blown me away since I've seen them on RS. My favourite is the recon clone- Kinda has that republic commando feel to it.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: Smartypants1635 on September 5, 2005, 09:11 PM
hey jub jub could you draw the sniper clone facing us so i can see the helmet its a good i dea for the sniper of my squad
Title: CLOSE COMBAT TROOPER
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 5, 2005, 09:12 PM
These guys are basically used in boarding parties or close-quarter situations where standard blasters and rifles become unwieldy.  The basic Clone Trooper armor is retrofitted with extra plating for physical impacts and in some cases, absorbs or deflects blaster fire.  Their right arms are augmented with bionics that increase strength,the accompanying "power fists" are lightly shielded, using the same technolgoy that protects vehicles, which makes them suitable for punching through bulkheads and droid carapaces.  These are also equipped with an optional propellant of sorts, which in short burst, increases the impact of the "power fist" when a punch is thrown, for example.  This isn't used very often as the capability is limited.  They are also armed with Blaster pistols and various other melee weapons as suited for individual taste.

(http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/2397/ccclonerenderingv2smaller3kf.jpg)
Title: OUTLANDER CLONETROOPER
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 6, 2005, 01:49 AM
Influenced by the concept art for Commander Faie, I figured that these guys have been stationed in the outer reaches of the Galaxy, far from resupply lines.  This forces them to often improvise by using the indegenous materials as needed, which often would include projectile weapons when blaster charges are running out and using local fabrics for camoflague.  Survival gear is a must.  These guys often have to employ guerrilla tactics.
(http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1076/outlandertrooperrenderingsmall.jpg)
Title: URBAN TACTICS CLONETROOPER
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 6, 2005, 01:53 AM
This is actually a commissioned character so he doesn't have a thought out backstory yet, but I figure the name says it all...

(http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/6382/swatclonerenderingsmall1ue.jpg)
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2491/swatfront0ha.jpg)
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9264/swatback25uu.jpg)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 6, 2005, 01:57 AM
Another character with a self-evident purpose ;D... I wanted to use a more OT type weapon for this guy, sorta like the weapons used by the goons in Jabba's employ, as opposed to a gun type weapon.  I think I may have used too much red on the armor, though.  Notice the insignia on this forehead, meant to resemble devil horns.

(http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8932/firestormunittroopersmaller9qv.jpg)
Title: Jedi Knight Jatilika Ortada
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 6, 2005, 02:02 AM
Just a generic Jedi with no real backstory.  I messed up on her neck a little, but it's too late to fix now...

(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/930/jatilikarenderedfixedsmall9vk.jpg)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 7, 2005, 10:54 PM
bump ;D
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: Gregorbian on September 7, 2005, 11:01 PM
I love that Powerfist!  That would definitely work well in the Star Wars universe!
Was that aeseven7 that made that black-armored commisioned clone?
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 7, 2005, 11:12 PM
I love that Powerfist!  That would definitely work well in the Star Wars universe!
Was that aeseven7 that made that black-armored commisioned clone?

Yeah, he's made both clone customs pictured in this thread, Commissar Straasha and the Urban Tactics Clonetrooper.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: darth_ripley on September 8, 2005, 12:59 AM
welcome jubjub  :)

i have really enjoyed your drawings on RS and they have inspired me to come up with an elite Mygeeto clone based on several things in your designs. its a WIP at the moment, but i just wanted to say thank you for sharing your wonderful talents with all of us. :)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: baragon on September 8, 2005, 04:04 PM
Man those clones are so awsome! ;D
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 8, 2005, 04:27 PM
welcome jubjub  :)

i have really enjoyed your drawings on RS and they have inspired me to come up with an elite Mygeeto clone based on several things in your designs. its a WIP at the moment, but i just wanted to say thank you for sharing your wonderful talents with all of us. :)

Hey, thanks!  Can't wait to see your Elite Mygeeto Clone... maybe you can have me illustrate it for you in case you want to do some packaging... ;D
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: Ryan on September 8, 2005, 05:08 PM
Sniper- I love the armor, the camo is really well done. I'm not really a fan of the helmet though. I see where you were going with it, but it just doesn't look right to me. I do like how you have the data cable going form the head to the gun it is a great idea but I think the gun needs some kind of scope. It wouldn't be very east to try and aim through the helmet alone, because if you zoomed in ou wouldn't be able to see the crosshairs on the gun. If in the event the helmet is damged, he'd be screwed without a scope on the rifle.

Close Combat Clone- I like the armor and idea of this guy a lot. That power fist thing would me mighty scary to see flying at your face. I think that you should have given him a carbine in addition to the pistol. Carbines are much lighter than rifles and are better suited for close combat. Especially since the carbines the clones have are fully auto and in small spaces that could do some damge against a big group of enemies.

Outlander Clone- Excellent design. I wouldn't change anything on this guy.

Urban Clone- He is very reminiscent of a SWAT officer. Great work on the  body armor and the coloring is very urban like.

Flamethrower clone- Another very nicely excuted design. I like how he has a breath mask, but where does it lead too? The cable is is attched to seems to lead right back to the fule tank.

Jedi- Nice and simple. But she is still very good looking.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 8, 2005, 06:08 PM
Sniper- I love the armor, the camo is really well done. I'm not really a fan of the helmet though. I see where you were going with it, but it just doesn't look right to me. I do like how you have the data cable going form the head to the gun it is a great idea but I think the gun needs some kind of scope. It wouldn't be very east to try and aim through the helmet alone, because if you zoomed in ou wouldn't be able to see the crosshairs on the gun. If in the event the helmet is damged, he'd be screwed without a scope on the rifle.

Close Combat Clone- I like the armor and idea of this guy a lot. That power fist thing would me mighty scary to see flying at your face. I think that you should have given him a carbine in addition to the pistol. Carbines are much lighter than rifles and are better suited for close combat. Especially since the carbines the clones have are fully auto and in small spaces that could do some damge against a big group of enemies.

Outlander Clone- Excellent design. I wouldn't change anything on this guy.

Urban Clone- He is very reminiscent of a SWAT officer. Great work on the  body armor and the coloring is very urban like.

Flamethrower clone- Another very nicely excuted design. I like how he has a breath mask, but where does it lead too? The cable is is attched to seems to lead right back to the fule tank.

Jedi- Nice and simple. But she is still very good looking.


Hey, thanks for the in-depth critique!
Sniper-I guess I was going for something that looked unique, not necessarily as practical in a militaristic sense.  But I figured that since this guy isn't a front line combatant as snipers are, they are capable of lugging around sensitive equipment, much in the same way real-world snipers treat their rifles like babies because they necessitate utmost precision.  The addition of a scope on the rifle makes sense, since the helmet can get damaged and it might not be necessary for all kinds of situations.  The helmet is only an attachment that can be flipped up like the visor of Commander Bly to reveal a regular helmet underneath.

CC Clone-Makes sense to me, or maybe something more akin to a sawed-off shotgun...

Urban Clone-The SWAT ideas is exactly what the guy I designed it for wanted, so I'm glad that came across.

Flamethrower-I haven't really thought about the backpack yet...but It would include fuel as well as O2, or whatever they breath in the SW universe...
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: baragon on September 8, 2005, 06:38 PM
when do you think you will be coming out with any more drawings of your amazing clones, because i know that other people,including me, love your ideas!
Although i would like to know when a close combat clone would be used.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 8, 2005, 06:42 PM
when do you think you will be coming out with any more drawings of your amazing clones, because i know that other people,including me, love your ideas!
Although i would like to know when a close combat clone would be used.

Hey!  I'm currently working on a Special OPS clone w/ tactical gear which I should have done by the weekend.  As for the Close Combat Clone usage, I described it in the post on the first page.
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: baragon on September 8, 2005, 06:49 PM
when do you think you will be coming out with any more drawings of your amazing clones, because i know that other people,including me, love your ideas!
Although i would like to know when a close combat clone would be used.

Hey!  I'm currently working on a Special OPS clone w/ tactical gear which I should have done by the weekend.  As for the Close Combat Clone usage, I described it in the post on the first page.
Oops :o
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: jokabofe on September 8, 2005, 10:13 PM
Hey, those pics are great... and the clones by AE7 are (of course) amazing as well. Keep up the great work  :D
Title: Special Ops Clone
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 8, 2005, 11:26 PM
Hey guys, before I colored him up, I figured I'd ask for some opinions/critiques first...

(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/4710/specialopsdrawingsmall6tn.jpg)
Title: Re: Expanded Universe Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/7
Post by: darth_ripley on September 8, 2005, 11:35 PM
Hey, thanks!  Can't wait to see your Elite Mygeeto Clone... maybe you can have me illustrate it for you in case you want to do some packaging... ;D

i'm working on 3 clones at the moment, trying to get them cleared off my desk...but as soon as the Elite Mygeeto gets done, i'll definitely contact you about a drawing :) i gotta get better with PS before i attempt a card, i'm still not too good with it yet  :-[
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/8 Special OPS Clone
Post by: Ryan on September 8, 2005, 11:54 PM
Very cool. I really like the Splinter Cell style googles. :) Personally I'd ditch the kama, I think it would make too much noise and it be hard to be stealthy. I I think a silenced pistol, if they even make those in the SW universe. I guess it could be a projectile weapon, but he needs a way to kill silently from a distance. Color wise I think a grey black scheme is in order.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/8 Special OPS Clone
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 9, 2005, 12:14 AM
Very cool. I really like the Splinter Cell style googles. :) Personally I'd ditch the kama, I think it would make too much noise and it be hard to be stealthy. I I think a silenced pistol, if they even make those in the SW universe. I guess it could be a projectile weapon, but he needs a way to kill silently from a distance. Color wise I think a grey black scheme is in order.

Lol, yeah, I had Splinter Cell in mind but I was also thinking about the Sentinels from the Matrix with all their multi-eyed horror.  Ditching the kama makes total sense, I guess I'm just really into that look.  I really haven't designed too many new weapons, but of course, the silenced gun makes perfect sense.  I just opted for the weapon that comes with the AT-RT action figure, whatever it is.  Besides the Vibro-blade, he also has a Force Baton on his right hip and numerous other things for sabotage and assasination missions.  I envisioned his unit to be under Vader directly, so his extra torso armor is suppose to be reminiscent of Vader's.  Black and grey, with some white peeking through just to break up the colors and a few red details (eyes), is exactly what I was thinking of.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/8 Special OPS Clone
Post by: Ryan on September 9, 2005, 12:27 AM
I really like that gun. It reminds of the Republid Commando guns, it is a perfect fit.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/8 Special OPS Clone
Post by: Famine on September 9, 2005, 12:33 AM
Personnaly, I'd like to see that clone in an E2 styled helmet. To me, it says sleek and stealthy, vs the E3 helmet that says fearful and commanding.

I'd lose the kama and the sholder pauldron, for maybe somthing more Stealth fighter inspired. That would look awsome.

Cheers on the new design!

Kevin
Title: SPECIAL OPS CLONETROOPER
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 9, 2005, 04:04 AM
(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/29/specialopstroopersmall9mj.jpg)

Jedi_Field_Commander's custom based on my initial Spec Ops Trooper design.
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2363/specialops7gx.jpg)
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: Smartypants1635 on September 9, 2005, 09:03 AM
hey JJ nice stealth clone, but i would love to incorperate you designs on the sniper and many others. but to incorporate the element i want i have to see it could you draw the sniper helm (and just the helm so you dont have to go into detail on the b ody) from the front that way i can get a clear view thanks but if you cant thats ok to
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: CHEWIE on September 9, 2005, 10:37 AM
I can't believe how good you are at these.  I would love to see some non-clone designs too!

 :P
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: Phrubruh on September 9, 2005, 10:40 AM
See Hasbro! How come we couldn't get something like this! The splinter cell goggles make the figure. I wonder how hard it would be to make one of these?
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: baragon on September 9, 2005, 10:44 AM
MAN that is amazing!!! :o
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 9, 2005, 02:26 PM
hey JJ nice stealth clone, but i would love to incorperate you designs on the sniper and many others. but to incorporate the element i want i have to see it could you draw the sniper helm (and just the helm so you dont have to go into detail on the b ody) from the front that way i can get a clear view thanks but if you cant thats ok to

no problem, i've been meaning to work on this anyway since this is probably going to be made into a custom figure...
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: Gregorbian on September 9, 2005, 04:10 PM
Nice Spec Ops Clone!  I like his ninja vibe.  You are an amazing artist, I always look forward to your updates!  Keep 'em coming!
I also can't believe how quickly you colored that clone.  Are you a professional illustrator?

Have you done any "scenes" - like a BARC Trooper zipping through the forest on his speeder or a Close Combat Clone wailing on a battledroid?  I would love to see your take on those scenes!
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: crazy about Clones on September 9, 2005, 05:32 PM
Wow Awesome Spec Ops Clone!!! ;D I really like the Splinter Cell look, really makes the figure!(well not a figure yet but hopefully soon will be) Awesome Clone! 8) ;D
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: Ruprecht on September 9, 2005, 06:29 PM
Damn that's some awesome artwork you've done.  The spec ops, sniper, and urban clones are my favorites.  I think it'd be beneficial to every customizer to be able to so accurately detail what it'll turn out like, but not everyone has the talent you do.  Great work.

B
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: baragon on September 9, 2005, 08:17 PM
Man that is an awesome clone. But I think it could be better if you incorperated the designs of theCovert-ops clone (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_sku=SWHBECTF&rid=SWCMTP00001) or the spec-ops clone (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3654&text=&imageid=16484&box=&shownew=)
jniebs
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: Ryan on September 9, 2005, 09:36 PM
Man that is an awesome clone. But I think it could be better if you incorperated the designs of theCovert-ops clone (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_sku=SWHBECTF&rid=SWCMTP00001) or the spec-ops clone (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3654&text=&imageid=16484&box=&shownew=)
jniebs

Seriously? ??? That could be one of the worst ideas I've heard in awhile, the SWS Covert-Ops Clone is lame. JJJ's is sooo much better. It actually looks stealthy, not like some rainbow trooper with shiney reflective armor. Those have no place in EU, Hasbro just made them up to make money off the people they know will but them.

JJJ, the clone turned out great, the clone turned out fantastic. I really like how the color turned out. He looks much better with out the kama. The ankle holster is a nice addition, that's where I would have put the holster if I had drawn it. This one urned out excellent. :)
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: Darth_Ennis on September 10, 2005, 12:15 PM
Once again, I cant say enough about how cool these things are. Ive commented about them on several boards and I never get tired of seeing them. Its become somewhat of a game for me. I cant wait to see what he comes up with next. They are always better than the one previous.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 10, 2005, 04:24 PM
Nice Spec Ops Clone!  I like his ninja vibe.  You are an amazing artist, I always look forward to your updates!  Keep 'em coming!
I also can't believe how quickly you colored that clone.  Are you a professional illustrator?

Have you done any "scenes" - like a BARC Trooper zipping through the forest on his speeder or a Close Combat Clone wailing on a battledroid?  I would love to see your take on those scenes!


Hey, thanks for the good words!  I'm not really a professional illustrator... I actually design shoes for a living :P.  Eventually, I'd like to get into Production design.  I'd love to do scenes, I guess I just haven't found too much time to do so, and frankly, I have too many Clone ideas running around in my head.  I'm getting a WACOM tablet this coming week, which should enable me to do my renderings directly into Photoshop (it's what all the pre-visuals guys use for movie pre-production for digital painting), so once I get used to that, it should speed things up a bit... up to this point, most of what I do is 90% by hand, with a bit of Photoshop enchancing afterward.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: baragon on September 12, 2005, 11:27 AM
when do you think you will be doing another clone and what type will it be?
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/9 SPECIAL OPS TROOPER (FINISHED)
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 12, 2005, 02:04 PM
when do you think you will be doing another clone and what type will it be?

Next one is a Commuications Clonetrooper ;D!  I should have that done sometime this week...
Title: Comm. clone roughs
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 15, 2005, 08:00 PM
So I've finally had some free time to rough this guy up.  Basically most of the unique details are found on his upper body, new head gear, back pack w/ articulated main antenna, left shoulder with comprehensive antenna aray, and a random tech thing on his right shoulder.  Anybody have any comments?

(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/288/commclone12wo.jpg)

(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3532/commclone22cc.jpg)
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: Ruprecht on September 15, 2005, 08:37 PM
I like it.  Very nice work, except my dirty little mind looks at that big antenna on his right shoulder and sees phallus.  But that's probably just me.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: Gregorbian on September 15, 2005, 08:43 PM
Looking good so far, my only comment pertains to the antenna on his helmet.  To me, it sort of looks like an early '90's cell phone.  I like the design of the helmet, but I think the antenna should be shifted somewhat.  Still, that's probably just me  ;)
I can't wait to see this guy colored up  8)
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: Ner_vod on September 15, 2005, 09:19 PM
Very cool. I like the headgear, it looks cool. How's the big antenna work. For me I'd take it off, but it's just me.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 16, 2005, 02:56 AM
I like it.  Very nice work, except my dirty little mind looks at that big antenna on his right shoulder and sees phallus.  But that's probably just me.

interesting... :o
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 16, 2005, 02:57 AM
Looking good so far, my only comment pertains to the antenna on his helmet.  To me, it sort of looks like an early '90's cell phone.  I like the design of the helmet, but I think the antenna should be shifted somewhat.  Still, that's probably just me  ;)
I can't wait to see this guy colored up  8)

i see what you mean, it's that pill shaped thing at the tip.  thanks for the observation!
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 16, 2005, 03:05 AM
Very cool. I like the headgear, it looks cool. How's the big antenna work. For me I'd take it off, but it's just me.

yeah, I guess all the antennae are a bit over-done.  maybe it's hard to see, but the big one is attached to a backpack, so it's not really part of his armor, though when bent forward, there's a clasp on the padding on his right shoulder that keeps it in place.  it's just a visual cue that ties it in to older style field radio/communication devices, really.
(http://www.kbtoys.com/g/toys/big/140060.jpg)
(http://www.frontline-figures.com/ww2/wbi7.jpg)
Title: Commucations Clone Trooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 16, 2005, 11:14 PM
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3941/commclone1coloredflattenedsmal1.jpg)
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: Ner_vod on September 16, 2005, 11:19 PM
Woohoohoo! That's impressive. I might try and make that.(If I have time)
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: Ruprecht on September 17, 2005, 12:01 AM
Beautiful!  I won't dare try my hand at that one until I get more sculpt-time in.  I like the "whip" antenna.  Much better in my book.

B
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: Gregorbian on September 17, 2005, 11:33 AM
Very nice!  I like his camo pattern too. 
Your whip antenna came out much better than my crappy attempt! 
Title: Re: Commucations Clone Trooper
Post by: Reid on September 17, 2005, 12:31 PM
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3941/commclone1coloredflattenedsmal1.jpg)

This looks very nice. the antenna(s) look very cool as is the POTJ Zutton-esque ankle holster. I would assume this is a utapua clone?
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: Ner_vod on September 17, 2005, 12:50 PM
Very cool. I like the headgear, it looks cool. How's the big antenna work. For me I'd take it off, but it's just me.

yeah, I guess all the antennae are a bit over-done.  maybe it's hard to see, but the big one is attached to a backpack, so it's not really part of his armor, though when bent forward, there's a clasp on the padding on his right shoulder that keeps it in place.  it's just a visual cue that ties it in to older style field radio/communication devices, really.


OoO. Ok. Now I see. I thoguht it was apart of his armor.
Title: Re: Commucations Clone Trooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 17, 2005, 09:40 PM
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3941/commclone1coloredflattenedsmal1.jpg)

This looks very nice. the antenna(s) look very cool as is the POTJ Zutton-esque ankle holster. I would assume this is a utapua clone?

Well, no specific designation, really.  I was just trying out a different pattern for his armor.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 17, 2005, 09:42 PM
Very cool. I like the headgear, it looks cool. How's the big antenna work. For me I'd take it off, but it's just me.

yeah, I guess all the antennae are a bit over-done.  maybe it's hard to see, but the big one is attached to a backpack, so it's not really part of his armor, though when bent forward, there's a clasp on the padding on his right shoulder that keeps it in place.  it's just a visual cue that ties it in to older style field radio/communication devices, really.


OoO. Ok. Now I see. I thoguht it was apart of his armor.

Is your name in reference to the Filipino sandwich thing called shopao???
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: Ner_vod on September 18, 2005, 02:57 PM
Very cool. I like the headgear, it looks cool. How's the big antenna work. For me I'd take it off, but it's just me.

yeah, I guess all the antennae are a bit over-done.  maybe it's hard to see, but the big one is attached to a backpack, so it's not really part of his armor, though when bent forward, there's a clasp on the padding on his right shoulder that keeps it in place.  it's just a visual cue that ties it in to older style field radio/communication devices, really.


OoO. Ok. Now I see. I thoguht it was apart of his armor.

Is your name in reference to the Filipino sandwich thing called shopao???
Yeah. Howd you know?
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 18, 2005, 07:38 PM
Quote
Yeah. Howd you know?
Quote

I'm Filipino, though I've lived in the States for 22 years.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/15 Comm. Clone rough
Post by: ThePerennial on September 18, 2005, 10:39 PM
I like it.  Very nice work, except my dirty little mind looks at that big antenna on his right shoulder and sees phallus.  But that's probably just me.

interesting... :o

 I didn't see that at all when I took a peek at the antenna O_o
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: Phrubruh on September 19, 2005, 09:53 AM
I like the striping pattern on this one. Not so much the antena but I can't think of something better right now. It seems like it would get in the way.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: baragon on September 22, 2005, 11:08 AM
What is your next amazing clone going to be? ;D
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 27, 2005, 02:43 AM
What is your next amazing clone going to be? ;D

not sure yet, to tell you the truth...i might be busy putting together some inking work to submit to Dark Horse for the next few weeks, but i can probably find some time to do another...i was actually thinking of a Hazmat/Experimental weapons type Clonetrooper...
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: Darth Delicious on September 27, 2005, 03:13 AM
Jub Jub,

If Dark Horse doesn't pan out, I know a lot of people at Tokyopop, and an editor at Marvel. I'd be happy to pass you some info.


-DD

Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on September 27, 2005, 05:06 PM
Jub Jub,

If Dark Horse doesn't pan out, I know a lot of people at Tokyopop, and an editor at Marvel. I'd be happy to pass you some info.


-DD



sweet, thanks DD ;D !!
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 28, 2005, 04:42 AM
I like the Antenna, remember they travel very long distances and you see how bad holograms are sometimes.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: JFC on October 6, 2005, 08:00 PM
In honour of Jubjub's Black/Special/Covert/Stealth Ops Clone i am making a custom.   He knew about me doing it but it's been on hold for a while and i would like to state here that it will not be EXACTLY based on his sketch, just heavily inspired.  I have gone back to the earlier design where the clone has a sandtrooper-like pauldron and have made his 'eyes' (the splinter cell looking thing) lime green as opposed to red.  Mainly it will look a bit less 'busy'. I have the combat knife, unmasked head, helmet and nightvision (splinter cell style) attachment finished and the body is well under way.  So if your reading this jubjub, i will give you a sneak peek if you so wish, unfortunately the rest of you will have to wait until i debut the custom in its own thread sometime before the 12th. Finally i have dubbed him "Commander Ehx"

Regards

JFC

(P.S. I'm not really a newbie to customizing, if you were wonderign i have work on the rebelscum forms and have been customizing for about 8 years)
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts-UPDATED 9/16 Communications Trooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on October 9, 2005, 02:21 PM
Hey!  I actually saw it at the RS forums.... awesome work!!  Take some pics under artifical light, like a lamp or something, so the details really pop-out...
Title: Stormtrooper V2
Post by: jubjubjedi on October 14, 2005, 02:45 AM
Someone working on a fanfilm requested a V2 Stormtrooper.  Not sure exactly where that project is headed now, but I thought it would be a fun thing to do.

(http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/3716/stormv2whitebackgroundsmall7xv.jpg)
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: Phrubruh on October 14, 2005, 03:41 PM
IMHO, I don't like it. I don't like the long look of it. I know that is what you are going for here but it just reminds me of joke, a horse walks into a bar and the bartender says why the long face?

Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on October 14, 2005, 03:58 PM
IMHO, I don't like it. I don't like the long look of it. I know that is what you are going for here but it just reminds me of joke, a horse walks into a bar and the bartender says why the long face?



Could you be a bit more specific?  What do you mean by "long look", is it the helmet you are referring to?
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: CHEWIE on October 14, 2005, 04:04 PM
I'm pretty sure that's what he means, refererring to the face of the helmet mostly.

Do you post these in the art section ever?  They seem to be more of art than figure customs (great art though).

 :P
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on October 14, 2005, 04:38 PM
I'm pretty sure that's what he means, refererring to the face of the helmet mostly.

Do you post these in the art section ever?  They seem to be more of art than figure customs (great art though).

 :P

Yeah, I guess it's strayed from the initial idea :P...
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: CHEWIE on October 14, 2005, 04:51 PM
They're great drawings/paintings and show a lot of creativity.  I'd just love to see more of them made into customs.

I think you should create a Darktrooper but in the Clone Trooper fashion.

 :P
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on October 14, 2005, 06:53 PM
To put it back on track, I've updated with custom pics of Jedi_Field_Commander's Special Ops Trooper custom, as well as Sioul_Fett's Clone Sniper custom (from the RS boards).
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: CHEWIE on October 14, 2005, 07:01 PM
Cool, where can we see the pics?

 :P
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: jubjubjedi on October 14, 2005, 07:26 PM
Cool, where can we see the pics?

 :P

They're paired with the original concept art entries, I believe on page 2 and 3.
Title: Re: Stormtrooper V2
Post by: Reid on October 14, 2005, 07:48 PM
Someone working on a fanfilm requested a V2 Stormtrooper.  Not sure exactly where that project is headed now, but I thought it would be a fun thing to do.

(http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/3716/stormv2whitebackgroundsmall7xv.jpg)

Although, technicaly, you should have called it a Version 3 Stormtrooper...
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: baragon on November 7, 2005, 06:39 PM
JubJub I can't wait to see more of your amazing artwork!!
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: hemble on November 7, 2005, 07:11 PM
Now that is simply awesome you have a great talent and a great eye for detail well done.

Ron
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: Darth Vorax on November 7, 2005, 09:30 PM
I like the the helmet,its a mix of the SpaceTrooper,StormTrooper and CloneTrooper.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: Straxus on August 12, 2006, 10:36 AM
Holy Cow! Those concept EU clones are freaking amazing!
Jubjubjedi, not sure if you are on the forums anymore, but if you are that is some amazing work!
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 12, 2006, 10:59 AM
I've seen him a bit still over at the otheR Site, but I dunno how active he is.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: Straxus on August 12, 2006, 04:50 PM
Unfortunate...he has some excellent talent... hopefully the reason he is less active on the forum is because he is making a fortune with those amazing drawing skills! I wish we had seen those clones in episode 3!
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: CloneCommander1 on August 12, 2006, 07:46 PM
I think I read somewhere that he was moving.  Anyway, I Love these things, they're so awsome.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: Straxus on August 13, 2006, 03:25 AM
Indeed! I made a new background combining all of them into one image for my desktop!
Hmmm wonder if his contact information is still good. Would love to ask him permission to attempt some figures of my own based on his drawings.
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: Roton7 on August 13, 2006, 01:53 PM
Holy cow...those are just flat-out amazing! As some other people said, where is Hasbro? They should be checking out this thread! ;D
Title: Re: EU Clone concepts - UPDATED 10/13 V.2 Stormtrooper
Post by: Straxus on August 14, 2006, 08:02 AM
Well found someone with same name on a concept art forum and sent them a message... due to the art style I am 99% sure its the same person... I am hoping he is cool about about making customs based on his work, as I dont want to do so without his blessing. (So badly want to start sculpting some of those helmets!)