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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => Star Wars Rebels => Topic started by: Jesse James on October 12, 2013, 07:10 PM
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A smaller line of ships isn't my cup of tea but could a Stormtrooper transport make this line? What else?
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What size is class 2 now?
Midget X-wing?
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There's been specific mentions of several Imperial vehicles thus far.
-Star Destroyer
-AT-DP (All Terrain Defense Pod)
-TIE Fighters
-Imperial Transport (based on the Kenner vehicle)
I'd say that 3 of the 4 are pretty likely candidates. A Star Destroyer toy is just out of the question unless its ludicrously scaled down. As for the Imperial Transport? I wonder if the Kenner tooling is still available in Hasbro's inventory?
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The tooling probably still is around given how we saw pretty much everything else, but this version appears different enough to require a new sculpt. It would be pretty cool to see.
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When and where did they mention the troop transport?
Never mind I found it.
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This seems very doable in this scale... I really wish they'd go to $30 vehicles and just do ones that are back to the old size(s) though. I get why they're not... Things don't sell at $30. It's like figures don't do so hot at $10. But new meat... Surely they can do $25 and make the most out of the Rebels line while they can.
The AT-DP looks like it would fit well in a $25-$30 line too... Those current ships in Class-II are dismal though, honestly. I wouldn't even touch them for fodder.
I'd hate to see half-assed attempts at things like the AT-DP done for Rebels... I'd rather pay more and get something awesome.
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I'd hate to see half-assed attempts at things like the AT-DP done for Rebels... I'd rather pay more and get something awesome.
In the case of Rebels - the half-assed attempts come first (under-scaled $20 vehicles, 5POA figures) - then four years later, a few awesome Rebels items will be released (maybe one nice signature vehicle and some Vintage/Black-Series style figures).
It will follow the same pattern as the Clone Wars, the only difference was that the Clone Wars was given a good run, I don't see Rebels getting half of what the Clone Wars did - it's going to rapidly be overshadowed by a new movie.
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Yeah exactly - if the new movie does come out in May 2015, rebels will get all of one quarter to make a splash. Which opens up a question of what the line in general looks like going forward. Heavily segmented? Rebels, VII, black series, legends, angry whatever? Or more limited in scope?
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AT-DP and TIE Advanced Confirmed! inquisitor flies an Advanced... guess maybe Vader's ship isn't as advanced as once thought?
AT-DP I'm hopeful on it being really nice. :)
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Man oh man I am so excited for this thing:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1900066_701516563234194_2041039228_n.jpg)
I guess this is the AT-DP? Anyway, this was one of my favorite designs when I played Galactic Battlegrounds on the PC waaaaaaay back when I was a kid. I was excited when I saw Rebels was using it in the show last year, but I really didn't expect a good looking toy like this to be made. I'm stoked!
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Uh, holy ****, yes. Seconded on that Greg. I'm gonna pick up a few of those. A concept art design used throughout the EU, now in the toon, and getting what looks to be one hell of a nice toy?
Yeah, I'll be buying several... Squads of them. Custom up some planet-specific decoes. I'm already thinking of how I'll stowage up some long-deployment ones. I love it.
Looks surprisingly tall.
That TIE next to it? A freakish little new design TIE? I'm in. Scale's debatable on things like that anyway. :) I like the new design look to it. Reminds me of concept art for TIE Fighters actually, which had the squat wing design.
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I may not care for the figures but I'm on board here. Doesn't look like much in the articulation game but love the design + it's a walker (not a zombie)....and it harkens back to OT. yay
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Just a quick note that the box shown there is a mock up and the TIE that is coming is the one that is loose and not the one on the package.
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I thought they may do both, but an under-sized winged TIE wasn't something I was into... THAT TIE however, reminds me a lot of early TIE designs... I'm interested there I think, but the AT-DP? My oh my that thing looks better every time I look at it.
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Star Wars Rebels Vehicle Pics are now live (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/Toy_Fair_2014/Hasbro/Star_Wars/Star_Wars_Rebels_Vehicles).
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The TIE I bet is actually to-scale... the walker, I'd say just eyeballing it with the figure in the foreground, it may well be too, though scale's certainly open to debate on something EU anyway. Looks good to me. I'm in on both those.
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One other note... these have a $25 price tag on them now.
Didn't take long for the all-new, all-smallish Class II to creep back up again, did it?
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Vehicles are such a delicate thing to deal with it seems... If they weren't willing to try new material, I felt like they were doomed from the get-go. Rebels breaths some life into Class II once more.
I wonder if Class I will ever return? I liked it, for what it was. I felt like it had potential.
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One other note... these have a $25 price tag on them now.
Didn't take long for the all-new, all-smallish Class II to creep back up again, did it?
Sorry to pester you with questions Jeff, but are these vehicles supposed to be in the same size range as the earlier "shrunken" offerings, like Slave 1 and the Jedi Fighters? Also how tall did the walker appear to be? From the pics the vehicles seem fairly large, but there isn't really anything to compare with.
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There's a figure in the foreground of the one pic of the Walker I saw, and it's pretty big... Not complex though, but definitely tall. The TIE's cockpit is pretty big... As big as other TIE Fighters. The wings are squat, and I'd say no bigger than a vintage TIE's squat little wings. I'd say it's about back to where vehicles were in the old Class II.
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are these vehicles supposed to be in the same size range as the earlier "shrunken" offerings, like Slave 1 and the Jedi Fighters? Also how tall did the walker appear to be? From the pics the vehicles seem fairly large, but there isn't really anything to compare with.
In-between. Definitely not "super-small" like the 2012/2013 stuff. Closer to the old vehicle scale, but also not surprisingly smaller ship choices as a result. The Phanton is small... but it's supposed to be.
The walker is pretty tall, not any smaller in height than the AT-ST. Lots less articulation than the ATST which is why it's cheaper I'd say. Should make the legs sturdier for posing/standing it up though compared to the last ATST.
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are these vehicles supposed to be in the same size range as the earlier "shrunken" offerings, like Slave 1 and the Jedi Fighters? Also how tall did the walker appear to be? From the pics the vehicles seem fairly large, but there isn't really anything to compare with.
In-between. Definitely not "super-small" like the 2012/2013 stuff. Closer to the old vehicle scale, but also not surprisingly smaller ship choices as a result. The Phanton is small... but it's supposed to be.
The walker is pretty tall, not any smaller in height than the AT-ST. Lots less articulation than the ATST which is why it's cheaper I'd say. Should make the legs sturdier for posing/standing it up though compared to the last ATST.
Glad to hear that the vehicles grew in size. Based on the pics I expect the walker to be similar to the tripod walker from several years ago, with only a couple points of articulation in the legs. I actually prefer the less articulation, as the AT-ST had too much and suffered because of it.
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Speaking of, think I sorted that issue out for the most part. Feel like I should write an update about how to go about fixing those.
That AT-DP looked very sturdy... Legs one solid piece for the most part except the hips and ankles I think? They are hollow too, which is fine to me.
Wonder what the cockpit interior's like? How it'll stack-up to the cut-away from the show's promotional slideshow.
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Oh man, I'm SO EXCITED for these! They look amazing and I'm so relieved that they appear to be more or less in scale. Really gives me hope they will do The Ghost right too.
The Phantom looks like they carved it right out of the base of the Republic Attack Shuttle.
I am 100% officially all-in on this line. :)
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Perhaps they are going to launch a realistic AT-DP in the near future to fit saga legends, tvc and black series.
It has a cool design, looks likely several versions will be offer as there were with the personal walker por ep iii and clone wars. (animated and realistic)
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Vehicles are sculpted realistically already it seems to me, like they did with The Clone Wars.
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Definitely liking the look of Inquisitor's TIE Advanced. It blends together a number of looks, from Maul's Sith Infiltrator in the wings, to the ROTS era Jedi Interceptor, and especially Vader's TIE Advanced X-1. That kind of blending continuity is a great thing to see!
The AT-DP looks pretty cool, too. I would love to see the hatch open, but I get the sense that it's a one man vehicle based on the size of the pod.
The Phantom seems alright. I wasn't expecting vehices right out of the gate for REBELS, but this is definitely welcome. Still, it seems like the Ghost is the more important ship in the context of the series. Perhaps we'll have to wait to see how the show does in it's first season before Hasbro commits to producing a Ghost vehicle? If they do it, I would expect that Hasbro might have a price target of $80 - $100 for that particular ship.
Also noteworthy? I think we'll be seeing a REBELS stylized TIE Fighter at some point. The graphics on the mockup box for Inquisitor's TIE Advanced have a standard TIE on there, and we've seen a number of TIE's featured in some of the pre-production art that's been released. I think that standard TIE would be a no-brainer for this line.
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Very excited to see the vehicles. The TIE Advanced is very cool. I also would expect a Rebels TIE since if I'm not mistaken the designers based the concept art off the actual Kenner squat wing TIE.
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These were one of the cool surprises of the show I thought. I figured we'd be getting vehicles for the new toon, but it was cool seeing something all new (and not super tiny). I know I'm pretty excited for these as well. I had been on an OT vehicles only rule for the past few years, but these will be tempting. That's where we get the gray area since Rebels is sort of in the OT time period as well, so maybe I've found a loophole in my own rule :).
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Think of it this way. OT Concept art, kinda counts. :D
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I'm loving that AT-DP! Looks to be a good size.
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Yup, I was impressed. I'll take less leg articulation for a sizable walker like that. Looks like it might have 3 points of leg articulation at most. That's sufficient.
I'm anxious now to see the cockpit interior. It's a smaller walker than the AT-ST in design. A cut-away of the actual 3D model from the show showed a tandem seating style, but not much room for it. Basically legs under seats kind of a dealio. I think 2 could fit the toy well.
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The thing is, if they give us the vehicles, we're going to need the pilots to drive 'em. :)
Especially for that more generic TIE that is sure to come one day...
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Rebelscum heavily hinted that, during their preview of Hasbro's booth at SDCC this evening, they saw the Imperial Troop Transport...
Sooooooooo, yeah I'm officially now giddy to see what they saw.
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That was the least discreet hint I think I've ever seen. The only person who couldn't figure that out would be that guy who horrendously failed at Wheel of Fortune a few months back.
I'm looking forward to how the Imperial Troop Transport might get integrated into the series. And I hope the tool for the vehicle has been at least slightly updated. That's one vintage vehicle I was never able to get for myself, so the opportunity to finally get one is pretty nice.
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Heck yes! As soon as I heard this would be featured on the show I wanted one. Great news, would be cool if it came with some electronics as a nod to the vintage version but I'm not holding my breath.
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Honestly given the images I've seen of it, I really pray the vintage mold is non-existant because the redesigned elements of the cartoon's ship are so much cooler and in line with some past precedent too (the little ball turret guns up front ala the AT-TE, etc.).
It's also a little more angular, less "rounded" at the front... I'd dig seeing something new really. Vintage stormie transports are a dime a dozen too. :-\
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The more I see of that Inquisitor's TIE, the less I like it.
I get what they are trying to do, making it a step between the regular TIE and Vader's TIE, but... I've got a lot of TIEs already. Don't think I need another small-wing TIE for $25. I'd buy a TIE Defender or a TIE Crawler, but this one? I'm just not feeling it.
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I don't mind it... It's small, weird... It's different enough that it will sit nicely on a shelf like a weird TIE design. I'm not getting it because I like the inquisitor or anything really, but more that it's just sort of in line with the myriad of EU TIE Fighter ships they've cranked out.
The TIE Fighters themselves appear to be small-wing Kenner-ish TIE Fighters to the extreme, even white it appears, so it's kind of funny that they're somehow making the "small wing" TIE that collectors wanted replaced, now "canon" more or less. I'd assume they'll make it at some point, or basically crank out the POTF2 ship in white? In the trailer there's a good shot of them parked with ladders beside them and troops walking past. It makes the Kenner ship pretty spot-on in size now. Go figure.
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I'm not impressed with that new troop transport. There is no cockpit and it looks small and narrow. No electronics. I think it looks silly and undersized. I like the new walker.
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Yeah it's not as nice as I wished for, but it's interesting and different enough I'll buy one and use it for something else. I fully intend a scaled one of my own at some point. Love the design and purpose, just think Hasbro's doesn't meet the bar that things like the AT-DP set. That thing is all kinds of rockin'.
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More Hasbro/SDCC thoughts...
We've seen the AT-DP, Phantom and Inquisitor's TIE prototype before. Still, it's good to get a better look at these now.
The AT-DP seems to be the best of the bunch. I think walker vehicles just have this amazing appeal in Star Wars, and this one is a nice addition. I'm certainly looking forward to it, although I don't think we really got a good look at the crew compartment.
The Phantom looks pretty plain, to be honest. But I think Hasbro felt the need to get SOME sort of vehicle out there for the Rebels who are the namesake of the new series. Again, I would have liked to have gotten a better look at the interior of this vehicle, but that just didn't happen. What I really want to know about the Phantom? In the event that the Ghost gets made as a large vehicle, will the Phantom dock in some way with that vehicle? Hopefully Hasbro is looking at that sort of compatibility.
The Inquisitor's TIE fighter seems cool. Although I have to wonder how those wings are going to hold up. It looks like they fold, and the hinges may be a weak point on this particular vehicle.
I'm also a bit puzzled by the Target exclusive versions of the TIE Prototype and the Phantom. Why would Target agree to this? And where is the motivation for people to get these version instead of buying the figures and vehicles separately anywhere else?
And the Imperial Troop Transport? The nostalgia fan in me really wants to like this. Especially since I never got a vintage Imperial Transport. But the execution on this one? I've gotta say.... it looks a little cheap. I know that tooling budgets are down. And I appreciate the sentiment, but I think I was expecting a little more. Still, in terms of the shaping? I think this design actually does a decent job of bridging the look of some of the PT Grand Army of the Republic technology and vehicles with that of OT Imperial equipment.
The big vehicle question with regards to REBELS? When does the Ghost come out? And on a similar note, what about Agent Kallus's cruisers that have been seen in some of the recent clips?
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Loving the At-DP. It's absolutely being incorporated into my Mech fleet, buying two on the onset. Will pick up the Transport for good measure as well.
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Me too... I'm aiming for 2-3 left grey and I'm sure I will pick up some on sales or whatnot to customize too. If Kmart launches rebels stuff I will largely shop there. I have points saved and apparently no exclusive for them this year. :-\
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Wolf Pack podcast did a little early review of the AT-DP and Phantom from this line... I watched the AT-DP video and I gotta say, that thing's a beast. At least as tall as the new AT-ST sculpt, maybe a tad taller actually, which would be accurate I believe.
The seating does accomodate TWO pilots, as it should, and in tandem seats, as it should. I think it's not very detailed in there to fit figures with the lower articulation count, but I can see spiffing that up a bit. I'm just glad it fits two.
The detail on the outside looked quite impressive IMO. Lots of recessed panel lines.
I'm excited in part because I have coupons for TRU and free $ basically lying about, and in part because I'm so into getting these new vehicles. Is it the newness? No. I think it's the quality. These are looking pretty nicely scaled. If anything isn't it's the Phantom, but it doesn't look terrible either. Otherwise these look to have a solid bit of detail to them. Simplistic, priced nice, but still delivering some decent quality.
Anyway, these are out at TRU in Cali right now... Look for them if you please.
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Picked up the Sith Inquisitor's Prototype TIE and the AT-DP at the TRU near my work yesterday. They had the Phantom too - but I left it since I mostly wanted to take advantage of the BOGO40%Off sale that TRU is running right now. I also used a $5 coupon I had which brought the cost for the two vehicles down to $34 (including tax).
Haven't had a chance to open them yet, I'm sure once I get my hands on the AT-DP driver or Inquisitor figures, I'll get more excited about these vehicles....
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Saw all three today. I'll wait for the show to air to judge The Phantom. I like the other two. Especially the Tie Advanced. ATDP does seem a little small.
Can not get used to "Disney" on the box.
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I picked up all 3 last night too. The boxes are staring at me right now begging to be opened!
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I came across another full case of these at Target, but they didn't have the TIE with Inquisitor pack-in figure. I guess that version is coming later. I did go ahead and buy another AT-DP since I had a gift card ready to use up.
Opened it last night, it's a cool little vehicle, albeit a little spindly. I have no trouble getting it to sit upright but harder to mimic any kind of walking motion ala the AT-RT. I was pleasantly surprised to see at least a little detailing in the interior cockpit.
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Is Target only offering their pack-in versions of the Inquisitor TIE and Phantom? Or are they offering a pack-in version of the AT-DP as well?
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Is Target only offering their pack-in versions of the Inquisitor TIE and Phantom? Or are they offering a pack-in version of the AT-DP as well?
Right now it is just those two, but I believe there is an exclusive AT-DP set scheduled for the near future with the driver as a pack-in figure.
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Just noticed that my target inquisitor tie is in a Tri-logo box. Are they all like that?
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Mine is too, yeah...
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Word on the street is someone got me an AT-DP and Inquisitor TIE at a pop-up TRU that opened this week, and I have coupons I plan to take and get the prices adjusted. :D
First I've gotten a sniff of these, so I'm giddy. We're always the ass end of distribution but these have really been slow going here.
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Finally got to open my ATDP... Have to say its definitely under scaled and Hasbro has cut corners like mad on this line. Compare to a vehicle from 2011... Wow what a difference in every way from deco to number of parts to even plastic used and how thick parts are. I'm kind of shocked all it takes for a positive glowing review is a cockpit that holds a figure. Otherwise this is honestly a very cheap toy.
It has some good points too like detail in the sculpt, and on the concave parts Hasbro added greeblies and little details to make you notice less how they cheaped out.
The cockpit and drive section is where they really cut back though and what brings it down for me. The drive section is completely hollow and both it and the cockpit needed to only be just a tad wider and longer to make it a more impressively scaled toy. As it stands it has some customizing potential to me but as-is won't do and requires everything from a paint job (even just so light won't pass through the cheaper plastic) to maybe changing up the weapons and things since it is definitely too small. The cartoon is establishing these as taller than ATST's and ATM the ATST is a behemoth by comparison.
It has a place in my collection, but not quite as what the show intended IMO. It'll be something different once I'm done.
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Yeah, that was my conclusion as well, about this and the Inquisitor's TIE. When you compare them to some of the recent Clone Wars vehicles like the V-19 and Hyena Bomber the new ones just feel cheap and flimsy by comparison. I haven't opened the Phantom yet but I expect as much there too.
Kinda makes me apprehensive for what the eventual Ghost will look like...
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The Rebels vehicles are really just bigger "versions" of the 2013 vehicle assortment, with the mini-Slave 1 and Jedi Fighters. The same cost-cutting measures are evident, like fewer paint apps, hollow areas, and "lighter" plastic. I'm torn on these vehicles since I would love to see what Hasbro could deliver at a $30+ price, but the $25 or less point is easier on the wallet and still provides a decent toy.
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I don't even know that they're bigger! They're mostly air, haha.
The AT-DP really deflated me. It was the top vehicle, and one of the only toys, I was looking forward to this year. It's not what I was hoping for.
Now, I opened the TIE/A Prototype last night when I got home just out of curiosity. it's a little more solid than the AT-DP, and the cockpit's believable but they made the seat flat to accommodate the 5POA figures, and the lower hull portion snapped in separate... I'd have preferred something a little more realistic with the seating. The interior's neat though, there's detail... There seems like a little more umph to this ship than the AT-DP I guess.
The Phantom's way underscaled and I'm not even buying. I could design better (it's all angles) myself I think. The TIE is the winner then for me so far... The AT-DP has customizing potential I think, and could be something different than an AT-DP, but as the show's version of the walker it doesn't work. Not unlike the AT-AP that came out... Just too small.
And yes, flimsy! The legs wobble and stuff. It stands, but the plugs they give you to hold the legs in, they're not well made and come loose easily.
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Fiddling with the TIE, wow... Just wow. ::)
5 POA has officially somehow ruined vehicle cockpits too. The seats aren't raised at all, and it really screws with how a better figure sits/fits in there. I'd have to make my own seat for this thing to look/feel right I think. I dunno. The TIE is definitely pretty slick by comparison to the AT-DP but not by any grand margin.
I kinda wish they'd just go back to Class I and ditch the Class II line... I'd rather a more solid mini-rig with a figure, than the more flimsy stuff.
And man, the Class II make that giant X-Wing look like a work of art, by comparison. It has the same plastic, only thicker, and the same "hollow" design under the wings and such, but as a toy goes, if I'm a kid and I'm offered that X-Wing or the AT-DP, I'm going X-Wing all the time and for about $10 more.
The TIE is definitely better, and I think the Phantom from a toy perspective probably ranks around the same as the TIE (not my cup of tea, but I think it's probably around the same quality). The AT-DP really let me down though. Just... cheap. It's cheap in every way.
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I have two of the AT-DPs put together and didn't have any issues with either. Everything fits together tightly and nothing is loose. Either I got lucky with mine, or you got a defective toy Jesse. I can easily see how things could get messed up during production if the pegs are mis-molded or holes drilled too large.
Personally I found the Phantom to be the best out of the three new vehicles, and probably the closest to the pre-2012 offerings. I'd recommend grabbing one if you find it on sale... it's cool for a generic shuttle. I haven't tried putting figures inside yet (or in any of the other Rebels vehicles) so I can't comment on functionality, but it looks pretty good on display.
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I tried a TIE Pilot in the TIE, and he flops about comically because it's ultimately designed for the limited figures to work in it I guess. I wish the seat were a little more snug (control consoles on the sides, little less wide).
The DP I have, I think it's fine functionally speaking, but when you move the legs the pins to hold them in simply loosen up. I don't see any production issues on them (bad mold pulls or whatnot). It just seems ill-conceived to me. :-\ I'm probably going to get another for customizing purposes so I'll check then.
From what I can see, when you move the legs, the pins simply shift out a bit... They don't pop off, but the walker becomes looser at the hip joints (the only joints, for that matter).
I'm ok with the articulation mind you... It never bothered me that it wasn't hyper jointed like the AT-ST that requires "fixing". I'm more miffed the main drive body and the cockpit aren't as big as they really should be. That's my only real gripe. They could be just a tad bigger and it'd be significantly better.
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Thanks Jesse for saving me $75.
I was on the fence about buying these, but now I think I'll pass on all three and wait to see the reviews on the Imp Troop Transport before I decide on that one.
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I tried a TIE Pilot in the TIE, and he flops about comically because it's ultimately designed for the limited figures to work in it I guess. I wish the seat were a little more snug (control consoles on the sides, little less wide).
It's extra wide so you fit Zeb in there. Otherwise someone at another site would have had a stroke. ;)
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Hah, well my stroke is mild. :P I'm more just miffed that these are lower in quality than the Class I with figures we got not long ago. Seriously I think those are just superior quality overall.
And glad I saved you some $ Jeff... They're iffy at this price IMO. On sale, they're fine maybe.
I'm going to get the Stormie transport and custom it (it's WWWAAAAAYYYY underscaled) into something of a support vehicle for the actual transports. The transport would be an ideal project for someone to try. All angular, very little to it at all that's rounded. It's very doable with simple cuts or in a *cough*3Dprogram*cough* if someone were so inclined. It's simplistic, to say the least. Something I'd like to tackle in the future as it's a very logical design too.
In X-Wing, TIE Fighter, etc., the Stormtroopers have a space transport used to board vessels... It's very similar, only built to fly out of an atmosphere obviously. It's another thing that's been on my to-do list. I'd like to try both now.
It's funny that the new transport will be significantly smaller than the original vintage transport. :-X That one is far closer to the proper size.
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I opened all of the vehicles last night with the kids. My quick thoughts (caveat that I haven't opened that many toys so my frame of reference might be off).
Phantom - The kids and I really like this. I think this is the best of the bunch. Flexible play options and it seems well built. It looks like it has been designed to attach to a future Ghost ship.
TIE - I think this is really good as well. My only complaint is that the hatch is too hard to open. I'm going to have to file down the plastic to make it easier to open. My kids can't open it on their own, and I struggle to get it open. Not sure if they are all like this or not.
AT-DP - It stands great and looks great. However trying to move the legs is a complete disaster. Within ten minutes of opening and constructing this the legs popped off about five times and I had to instruct the kids not to move the legs more than a few degrees at a time. How this got through the design process is beyond me. The cockpit with double opening hatch is pretty cool though.
Overall I would have to say they're okay, but not great, although I think the Phantom is really solid.
I don't think the plastic is so thin and hollow that its going to break or cause quality issues, so that's not an issue for me.
I was really annoyed with the stickers included with these though. While the Phantom's were reasonably easy to apply, the others were terrible. They were so small you couldn't even grab them. I don't know how anyone without model building skills could apply these (had to get out my Exacto knife to put them on like decals), and really seem unnecessary. Does Hasbro feel they *must* include stickers with every ship? They were so small and meaningless, and frustrating.
While I've got my gripes, I'm very glad they created new ships and its not just repainted Jedi Starships and the usual crap we've received over the past few years. The $25 price point isn't great for the ships alone, but its also not terrible. I actually think its a decent deal if you get the Target versions with the pack-in figures.
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Entertainment Earth has the next Class II case assortment listed, and it's not a bad breakdown in the grand scheme. 2 Stormtrooper Transports and the Inquisitors TIE? I think the AT-DP would've been better to repack but 2 transports is a nice move ultimately.
Wave 2 Class II Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HSA2174D&id=JE-405087801)
Clicky and support your local Jedi Defender. :P
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Yeah, at least they doubled up on the Troop Transports and not the thing that has already been out for months now. I guess I better go ahead and grab another Phantom while they're still out there.
They may have bypassed the AT-DP since that Target exclusive version with the Driver is coming out soon...
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Yeah, at least they doubled up on the Troop Transports and not the thing that has already been out for months now. I guess I better go ahead and grab another Phantom while they're still out there.
They may have bypassed the AT-DP since that Target exclusive version with the Driver is coming out soon...
Well, that wouldn't be very smart on their part since there is already a TIE with Inquisitor Figure on the market. ;) I think the odds of consumers army building the AT-DP are greater than the TIE. And the Phantom seems to be the ship kids would be the most interested in, so really, choosing the TIE is about the worst possible option. Same old story.
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I think the TIE was chosen because the Inquisitor seems to be a pretty popular character in the vein of Maul, Vader, etc. just my guess. Since the only ship I saw twice was the phantom, I think really any of them would've worked ok, but this and the ATDP seem like better choices by only a hair over the phantom.
I'd not be surprised to see revisions with the other ships as well.
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All three of these vehicles are in huge supply at Disneyland's Star Trader. I think they are about $5 more than retail.
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I was on the fence about buying these, but now I think I'll pass on all three and wait to see the reviews on the Imp Troop Transport before I decide on that one.
Saw a pic of the Imp Troop Transport filled up with VOTC Stormies on Yakface's facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/yakfacecom/posts/10152766749151799)::
(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=4620&t=1)
Not terrible, but man, if only those troop sockets were a tad bit deeper... still on the fence, but won't be surprised if I end up passing on this one too.
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If I see one on a whim, maybe... This was very doable in scale, and so I'm pretty disappointed with what they dished out ultimately. I am, however, pleased that the design is so simplistic actually, that if one were enterprising, they could easily accomplish a home made one (by one means or another) pretty easily.
I love the ship's design and update over the original vintage vehicle... I'm definitely into owning one of these some day. I love the role as a multi-purpose vehicle... cargo transport, weapons platform, detention/policing vehicle. It's very much the Hanomag of the Empire (Germany's halftracks in WWII, which saw about 3 billion configurations by war's end).
Transport men? Sure!
Transport important prisoners? Absolutely!
Transport boxes? You betcha!
Slap bigger guns on it and make it an anti-tank vehicle? We can do that too!
AA platform? Sounds good!
I always feel like the Empire has that in mind, slightly anyway, with multiple vehicles... Like the AT-ST can be outfitted with varying armament, should they choose. Other platforms less so, but certain designs just look almost modular. Even the Sandtrooper backpack looks like its a modular design so it's capable of being outfitted for any environment pretty easily.
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I guess the Troop Transport is starting to hit @ TRU now...so the Hunt begins.
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I was on the fence about buying these, but now I think I'll pass on all three and wait to see the reviews on the Imp Troop Transport before I decide on that one.
Saw a pic of the Imp Troop Transport filled up with VOTC Stormies on Yakface's facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/yakfacecom/posts/10152766749151799)::
(http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=4620&t=1)
Not terrible, but man, if only those troop sockets were a tad bit deeper... still on the fence, but won't be surprised if I end up passing on this one too.
I like some of the design changes. But the phrase that really comes to mind?
"Aren't you a little short for an Imperial Transport"?
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I like this vehicle a lot, I can't wait to see what it looks like with Kubrick Stormtroopers in it :)
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I'll get one for my four-year-old. I may pick up one for myself to put next to my vintage version.
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I love the design a lot, just not a fan of the toy. After I was sorta burned by the AT-DP's quality, I'm suspicious of this one's ultimate in-person quality as well. For the price and all, it's just a tough pill these days.
I found the TIE Advanced to be the best of the lot actually. I thought it had the most sturdy build, most detail, most complexity in its design... I didn't get The Phantom however, but I did look it over and I wasn't impressed.
It's definitely closer to a 1/35-ish scale (ala Kubies).
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I think they did a decent job on the Phantom. It's pretty well built and at least the figures fit in it. ( I have two Millenium Falcons that I can't say that about).
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Has there been any talk of Target getting a vehicle assortment that includes the troop transport, or a transport with a pack-in figure?
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There were rumors of a Target exclusive Troop Transport with Stormtrooper, but it was never shown or confirmed the way the other three exclusives were.
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Finally cracked open my Imperial Troop Transport. Overall I think its a pretty solid toy for $20.
Its solid and sturdy, so it won't break while playing with the kids. The spring loaded missiles work just fine and figures fit in there perfectly. Sure its a little short and figure's heads stick out over the top, but its not that bad for a toy. At least figures can sit in the vehicle to "drive" it. I like the internal spots for holding guns and stuff too.
My only two gripes are that I hate putting on tiny, tiny little stickers. I wish they would either leave them out of the design, or find a way to paint them on. And it would have been nice to have rolling wheels on the bottom. Ultimately I understand that wheels were probably omitted to save on the cost, but it would be fun to be able to roll the vehicle across the floor.
I would definitely recommend picking up this toy if you ever come across it. I got mine from HTS, and have never seen one in a store.
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I'm with you Dave. Wheels would have been nice. I lost a mini decal while trying to tweezer it on. But otherwise I like it. Another toy I can't see where all the hate is coming from.
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I can't see where all the hate is coming from.
It's pretty much coming from it not being 100% like the vintage Kenner toy I imagine. Doors aren't the same, it's smaller, no wheels, no electronics, etc etc.
Like the rest of this line, these new ships are nice for what they are - cheap, small, and simple. But, if you'd need anything beyond that, you'll probably be disappointed.
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I don't mind the updated design, but seeing the size was a bummer for me.
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For me, that's some of it, but I never really cared one way or the other on the Vintage ship comparatively to this one... I just wanted something superior than what we got, ultimately.
It's basically stamped low-grade plastic, at this point, for $25. On this particular vehicle it's taken to what felt like a bit of an extreme too, with the two seat thing going on. It doesn't have a "floor" to speak of, so you can basically just set a couple figures in it. A lot of what feels like wasted space then taking a bottom out of the equation.
I felt the lack of rolling wheels was a huge disappointment. Again, no floor, not really as easy to do that either. The weapons don't move much, and it inhibits it somewhat.
And of course, it's a fair bit small... Just all around disappointing. I was pleased to have gotten it for $20 shipped, but anything more at a store and I'd have returned it once I saw how disappointing it was. To me it just sucks. I thought the AT-DP sucked too.
If the transport were more of a box than just basically 2 seats, I'd probably have given it a little more love. That's where, compared to the vintage one, i think it probably failed the most, to me. The wheels would be a close 2nd too though.
I liked the TIE Advanced somewhat. The Phantom I never picked up, so I'm indifferent on it. I found the TIE kind of fun though.
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All the design concessions for the ITT are acceptable for a toy. But no wheels? It's a friggin' transport! How
am I are kids supposed to jump it off a ramp, or do a Thelma and Louise off a table?
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Hasbro would probably say "Hey, it's more screen accurate without wheels!"
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I dunno, I can't help but compare it even to the Class I vehicles, which were simply miles superior to ANY of the Class II stuff we've gotten since. Stamped thin plastic only works if you're getting a "deal" IMO. Like with the giant hero X-Wing, it's essentially a properly scaled X-Wing, for $34-ish or less.
But $25 nets you sub-par stamped plastic ships that weren't nearly as cool as the little dropship thing, or Y-Wing...
That said, I still do like the TIE Advanced. I think I'd really give the transport higher marks if it weren't hollow but actually had a floor. I would at least feel like I could do something with it I guess.
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Not looking forward to being disappointed with the upcoming MASK line (if that's still happening) Wish this would have happened years ago when $20 new SW ships were plentiful..and much heavier.