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Community => Watto's Junk Yard => Topic started by: Holographic Elvis on August 30, 2004, 03:47 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/30/clerks.sequel.ap/index.html
Found this today on CNN.com. If it's old news, by all means delete the thread. This is the first I've heard about it. Love the title by the way.
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I was partial to Clerks 2: Hardly Clerkin'. :) Sounds like a really new development, wow. I thought he debunked ever doing a sequel a while back. How quickly a stream of flops can change things I guess.
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I wouldn't put much stock in it. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was supposed to be the last "View Askew" flick.
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I wouldn't put much stock in it. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was supposed to be the last "View Askew" flick.
That's true, but as Jared pointed out, his "Jersey Girl" flop may have changed his mind I guess.
From the story:
It's funny, it's very raw, insanely foul-mouthed. In many ways it's the antithesis of 'Jersey Girl,"' Smith said, referring to his recent PG-13 comedy with Ben Affleck as the widowed father of a little girl.
Sounds like he's already trying to distance it from Jersey Girl...
Jeff
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I wouldn't put much stock in it. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was supposed to be the last "View Askew" flick.
Well it quotes him directly in most of the article, so unless he's just messin w/ everyone, it seems legit.
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Hey, don't get me wrong, I'd love it if he did. I read what he said recently, but what he said back then should still be considered.
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Still liking the Clerks 2: Electric Boogaloo title better. [/joke]
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Meh, I liked Clerks, thought it was pretty funny and original, by the time he got to Jay and Silent Bob I thought the whole thing had run its course. I say let sleeping dogs lie
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I hope this focuses less on Jay and Silent Bob and more on Randal and Dante's (particularly Dante's) malaise. I expect plenty of weed and dick and fart jokes, not to mention many utterances of the word '****'. Maybe something about an institutionalized Caitlin? ;D
J&SBSB is a flick one watches about twice before it slowly creeps its way back in one's DVD collection.
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I thought Slacker was much better than Clerks. Smith... didn't he do that Matt Damon movie?
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He's done another Dante and Randal Project for Leno, called The Flying Car. It's available for download at veiwaskew.com.
Yes! Here's to another Smith Classic!
Kevin
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I thought Slacker was much better than Clerks. Smith... didn't he do that Matt Damon movie?
I hope that you don't mean this:
(http://www.impawards.com/2002/posters/slackers.jpg)
:P
Seriously though, hasn't Smith stated publically that "Slacker" was the reason he made "Clerks"?
Lemme see if I can find that story I read...
Kevin Smith Talks Screenwriting, "Slacker" and "Superman"
(http://www.indiewire.com/biz/biz_001212_K.Smith.html)
Exerpt from the story:
However ironically, it was J. Hoberman's review in the "Village Voice" that inspired Smith to venture into New York City on his 21st birthday to see Richard Linklater's "Slacker," the unconventional, character-driven indie that lacked high production values or stars. What struck Smith about the film was that the audience was going nuts and laughing themselves silly. On the heels of this revelation, Smith spent 1 1/2 years immersing himself in independent movies, from Jim Jarmusch to Spike Lee to Hal Hartley films. As Smith remembered, "'Slacker' was the film that got me off my ass."
Jeff
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Thought I'd give this old thread a bump, since we're just a few months away from Clerks II (check out the trailers here (http://www.clerks2.com/trailer/index.html)).
But I'm really bumping this because of something else Kevin Smith-related--something that I personally find vastly more important and worthwhile than Clerks II, or any of his other movies, for that matter:
Me and My Shadow, Part 1 (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060328)
Part 2 (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060329)
Part 3 (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060330)
Part 4 (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060403)
Part 5 (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060404)
Part 6 (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060405)
Part 7 (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060410)
Part 8 (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060413)
Part 9 - The Conclusion (http://silentbobspeaks.com/?m=20060418)
This is a story from his blog, where he basically chronicles the battles his friend and costar Jason Mewes has had with drug addiction over the past ten or so years. Very frank, very candid. There was really a lot more going on behind the scenes than anyone knew--anyone who wasn't directly involved, anyway.
I've never been the biggest fan of Smith or the whole View Askewniverse, for that matter--but this story gives me a newfound appreciation for the guy, and for Mewes, too. Altogether, it's a pretty long read (maybe an hour or so?), but it's really-well written, and it's really hard not to want to finish it after reading the first chapter. You guys should really check it out.
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Thanks for posting that. I check his site from time to time, and found that story (in the middle) a couple of weeks ago and went back and read from the beginning til the end that was posted last week. I really thought it was good read too.
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Wow, that's some pretty heavy stuff.
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I have heard a lot about the Jason Mewes drug problems on Kevin Smith's assorted web sites over the years, but reading the summed up version was a really good way to get a window into it and feel like you know the guy.
I'm not sure how I'd feel being one of his friends (or his friends friends). It would seem that no one is safe from his blog.
BTW....one thing in that article disturbed me to no end. It was not drug related, it was that Kevin Smith (even after making it big in Hollywood) is apparently a toy scalper.
Talk about a fallen idol. Damn.
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Bumping for the impending release. . .
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/jsbstash_1907_117669)
Anyone else seeing it tomorrow, or this weekend?
Or are you waiting until. . .
. . .it hits the dollar theaters?
. . .it comes out on DVD?
. . .it hits pay-per-view?
. . .it is shown on an international flight?
. . .it comes out on the premium cable channels?
. . .it hits basic cable?
. . .it's shown on network TV?
From what I've heard, this movie is so filthy, it'll probably never be aired on some of those things, and if it is, it'll be edited down to fifteen minutes long or something. . .
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From what I've heard, this movie is so filthy, it'll probably never be aired on some of those things, and if it is, it'll be edited down to fifteen minutes long or something. . .
Yeah, what's his name from GMA walked out of the screening saying he had enough.
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i think that is kinda good news for genuine clerks fans. i started to watch clerks the other day in anticipation of the sequel and was surprised by the dialogue even though i have seen the movie several times. if clerks 2 really gets back to its roots, i am kinda surprised most major theaters will play it.
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Yeah, I'm definitely going. No midnight show here, so I'll have to see it after work tomorrow.
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Quick report:
Seven walkouts out of maybe 35 people
Worth seeing, for two things: Randal's analysis of the Lord of the Rings flicks and Rosario Dawson's dancing (hubba, hubba)--but check your sense of morality at the door
That's all. I'm no movie reviewer.
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Someone please describe the filth in this movie. I'm interested in seeing it, but I want to know what I'm in for.
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To "describe the filth" would be to give away a bunch of the jokes. I can say, though, that the language is probably as bad as the first five flicks, combined (which I guess can explain why I've got such a pottymouth this evening).
But here's one hint for you:
Quite a few minutes of the film were spent discussing. . . shall we say. . . an act which has it's own smiley on the Internet. Someone put that very smiley up here a few weeks ago, and Berry was so bothered by it that he took it down.
But that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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I'm glad my plans to see this fell through.
Now I'll be spared.
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I am a huge Askewniverse fan.
I liked Clerks 2. Didn't love it. Liked it.
It is better than Jersey Girl, but the rest of the movies still stand firm in their spots where they were on my lists.
There are some REALLY great scenes in this film and also some not so great ones. Overall, I think it's a good comedy, with lots of laughs....but I don't think it lived up to what my imagination thought it might be.
As for the "filth", it's more talked about than shown onscreen, but there are a few parts that I can see people being disgusted by. Certainly nothing I'd EVER watch with a parent, that's for sure.
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Im not really sure if it stands up to Clerks (because of the sheer goodness of watching that movie for the first time and such 8) ) but clerks 2 was definitely better then i'd expect a clerks sequel to be (clerks didnt really seem like a movie that should have a sequel). I liked it a lot and being a big Randall fan i loved his dialogue, especially with the triliogy comparisons. :P
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I really, really enjoyed Clerks 2. Moreso than I enjoyed the original. The Christian guy was pretty annoying, but other than that no complaints. I just must be the target audience for this one because it really spoke to me.
And Rosario Dawson deserves her own photo thread independent of the Top 5 Hotties thread. ;D
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Finally saw it tonight after not being able to go Friday or Saturday nights.
Loved it. It has somewhat of a different vibe than the first Clerks movie but some of that had to do with better acting which is definitely not a bad thing.
I agree with Bill, Elias was kind of a pain in the ass. But the exchange between him, Randall and Kevin Weisman's (Marshall from Alias) character about LOTR was great.
The scene towards the end between Randall and Dante was flipping brilliant. All the rest of the standard dick and fart jokes were fine but the friendship and love storylines were very well done.
E...
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We caught this on Saturday afternoon, and I thought it was pretty good as well. In the same line as Kevin Smith's other movies, which I've enjoyed as well. I thought the story was pretty good too. Some people tend to miss that sometimes, instead getting caught up in the language and vulgarity. There was probably only 10-20 people in the theatre when we saw it, but in the row in front of us there were two women probably 65+ years old who got up about a half hour or so in, went "aaaah" and waved at the screen, and walked out. Kind of funny.
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in the row in front of us there were two women probably 65+ years old who got up about a half hour or so in, went "aaaah" and waved at the screen, and walked out. Kind of funny.
Was one of them this guy in drag, by chance?
(http://www.abcmedianet.com/showcontent/news/correspondents/i/siegel.jpg)
"Time to go! This is the first movie I’ve walked out of in 30 ******* years!"
Before I saw it, my buddy and I had a pool going on how many folks would walk out. We were all set with our picks, and then right before it started, this group of three women of varying ages walked in. Might have been a mother, with her mother and daughter, I don't know. Anyway, we both had them pegged as walkouts even before they got to their seats, and our totals went up by three.
Sure enough, they didn't let us down. ;D They left right around the time of the ATM scene, I believe it was. What was once a nice little outing at the mall with some shopping and corn dogs in the food court, turned into one of the worst experiences in their lives with the decision to see the "newest wacky comedy" which just came out that day. . .
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In regards to these walk-outs, why would you see a movie that you know nothing about?
I hate Meryl Streep so I would never pay good money to see Prada....
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In regards to these walk-outs, why would you see a movie that you know nothing about?
That's exactly what I said. Like I said to my wife as we were walking out, "Clerks 2" doesn't really seem like the type of movie a couple of old ladies would "take a chance on". What were they expecting from an R-rated comedy, let alone one from Kevin Smith?
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That for me , was one of the funniest things ever, pure mindless entertainment that had something in it for all the fanboys, "face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot" was great and Randal vs Elias was great, gobots and lord of the rings had me laughing so hard. Space is made on the dvd shelf !!!
Oh and Rosario Dawson is so hot !!
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I saw it and laughed my ass off. Being a fan of the "Askeiwniverse" didn't hurt either.
I went with some girl who hadn't seen any of the previous flicks, and she almost died of embarasment. It was fantastic.
Kevin
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Long reply short, I loved it. Best film I've seen this year. Totally deserves academy nods but has a snowball's chance in hell of getting any. This film totally spoke to me.
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Saw it last night. It was lewd, crude and disgusting and I absolutely loved every minute of it. I've enjoyed all of Smith's movies (yes, even Jersey Girl) and this one didn't disappoint. Not as good as the original, but I think that's because the original was well, original. As with Clerks, Randall stole this movie. His looks when Ellias was describing his girlfriend's female anatomy trolls had me laughing my ass off.
And Rosario. Wow. I always thought she was cute, but she looked really really good in this movie. Good stuff.
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I still haven't seen it, and from the looks of things, Mrs. Sprry75 isn't going to let me see it, so instead I watched J&SBSB last night with the commentary on.
Couple observations:
1) It's funny how many times KS mentions that J&SBSB is the last "Askiewniverse" movie during the commentary.
2) It's funny how completely ******* drugged out Jason Mewes obviously is during the recording of the commentary.
3) It's funny how in both KS and Jason Lee's filmographies, both of them are credited with "Fletch Won."
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Long reply short, I loved it. Best film I've seen this year. Totally deserves academy nods but has a snowball's chance in hell of getting any. This film totally spoke to me.
Academy nods?
I suppose if they create a category for crappy teen flicks, yes...it'll be right up there with Harold and Kumar go to Amsterdam.
Good movie, but let's not kid ourselves here. It is what it is. ;D
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Rosario Dawson was outstanding in the film. Sure she's not a homosexual prostitute in a period piece with urban overtones so the Academy wouldn't notice.
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Rosario Dawson was outstanding in the film.
Yes she was. She really stood out in the film. It could be because she's the only real actor in the movie with a big part (usually, veteran actors get cameos in Kevin Smith movies), but I think it's what happens when you give that great dialog to someone who's a really experienced actor. She was totally believeable as Becky, and I felt her relationship with Dante was much more genuine than the one Dante had with Emma.
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She was totally believeable as Becky, and I felt her relationship with Dante was much more genuine than the one Dante had with Emma.
That's because Kevin's wife can't act her way out of a paper bag.
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That's because Kevin's wife can't act her way out of a paper bag.
Well, she was a reporter when he met her, not an actress. If you're a director, known for making movies with your friends and your wife says "Hey, could you put me in the movie?", you kinda have to say yes, right? :)