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Community => JD Sports Forum! => Topic started by: Darth Slothus on February 13, 2007, 03:50 PM
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I think the Chargers are going to look at Marty's track record in the playoffs, wonder how a team with SO much talent cannot be ready to play in a playoff game, then look at the coach-- who looks bored with no headset on- trusting a young gun to call plays out there( despite his own playoff coaching record) and then they fire him. OR, if he doesn't win the SB next year he'll be fired, surely. Owners just don't want just awesome regular season teams, they want rings. Marty was lucky to win his last playoff game-- because he had Capt. comeback-General Joe at his reigns.
Seeing as how New England's track record with their current coach and QB, it seemed like the team(chargers) was not prepared well for that--dropped passes, fumblitis, uncharacterisitic defensive breakdowns, stupid personal fouls-- I would blame squarely on the coach. I know he doesn't play the game ..but he's not even communicating with headsets.. how does that look? It's his job to get the team ready and with few exceptions, I don't think he did.
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Marty ball IS over (Schott is fired)
Ha! Called it, but it really was a no brainer after all wasn't it though? Seeing his playoff track record and relationship with his GM weren't good.
EDIT: The teams(chargers) loss of crucial coordinator staff surely didn't help Marty's position; if anything, it showed there lack of confidence in him
DS
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The "lack of confidence" is not really what happened Slothus. He had a highly publicized poor relationship with the GM. Schottenheimer was using all 3 of his assistants and both coordinators to relay messages back and forth from the GM to himself and vice versa. With the 3 assistants taking other jobs and the coordinators being canned, all of the middle men between Schottenheimer and his boss were eliminated, so Schott went.
At least that's the story I've heard everywhere.
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The "lack of confidence" is not really what happened Slothus. He had a highly publicized poor relationship with the GM.
At least that's the story I've heard everywhere.
Yeah, I mentioned that...HERE
Marty ball IS over (Schott is fired)
Ha! Called it, but it really was a no brainer after all wasn't it though? Seeing his playoff track record and relationship with his GM weren't good.
EDIT: The teams(chargers) loss of crucial coordinator staff surely didn't help Marty's position; if anything, it showed there lack of confidence in him
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They DID have a lack of confidence in him...let see, if they lost all their coordinators(who were relaying messages, heard by everbody)
and since the GM relationship was at a disfunction.. then they certainly didn't have confidence in Marty to continue without that odd communication patch no longer intact.
It's an easier story to release to the media about the relationship issues being a major factor than just coming out and saying that a team is not confident that THAT coach can EVER guide them to a SB. It also was wrote that the GM and owner badly wanted a SB win this year. I don't think it's coincidence at all when they had the season they had and expected greatness only to have very 'uncharacteristic play' envelop and lead to a first round exit loss and have Marty as the coach too. They (chargers team) have plenty of Marty playoff blunders in playoffs to look at. The team didn't seem ready for this game to me-who's fault is that? Who prepares them for the game? The team got cocky with an early lead- so how was that handled by Marty in his halftime talk. Stupid unsportsmanlike penalties? It's like nobody led the team to focus. The main reason for Marty's playoff exits is he has really been outcoached, period.
The 2006 Chargers were not 'over achievers' they were that good.
I would say their head coach was an underachiever, obviously. An actual rare day believe it or not when they need more than their talent, they needed a coach to help them...the last coach I want is Marty.
I think Singeltary is their best option for a coach right now.
DS
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Anyhow Slothus, that's soooooo last week, because nobody really cares about Marty Schottenheimer anymore since Tom Brady's ex Bridget Moynahan (who he broke up with in December) now tells him that she's 3 months pregnant with his baby, and he's with Gisele now!!! Whoooo!
(http://shotsdaily.com/gossip/photos/gisele.jpg)
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Anyhow Slothus, that's soooooo last week, because nobody really cares about Marty Schottenheimer anymore since Tom Brady's ex Bridget Moynahan (who he broke up with in December) now tells him that she's 3 months pregnant with his baby, and he's with Gisele now!!! Whoooo!
Just curious Dressel ...
-you always mention nobody, everybody..ect, in your posts. Just wondering if you ever speak for yourself on anything or just what YOU perceive to be what 'everyone' else is talking about?
DS
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It was a joke :-X
But now that you mention it, if you really want to measure the pulse of news worthiness, it's actually true that the Schottenheimer thing was last week's story. I haven't heard a word about it on WFAN, ESPN radio - Steven A Smith, Max Kellerman, Mike and Mike, Michael Kay for days now. Even though I was joking, it's actually true that Brady's hot women and baby daddy drama have been mentioned more lately.
And that's how I know what "everyone" or "no one" is talking about. Because I listen to nothing but sports radio, and I hear what the callers want to talk about.
Although, considering you're in California, and so are the Chargers, maybe it's still a hot topic in your neighborhood. For most else, that was 3 news cycles ago. Now we're talking about gay bashing former NBA stars and Brady's baby daddy drama.
But remember, it all started with a joke.
:D
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Now we're talking about gay bashing former NBA stars
Man, that was last week too. And nobody cared about it either!
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Don't send your daughter to a Tom Brady autograph signing session. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6548010)
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Moss to Green Bay (http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=247297) God I hope so! I'd like to see him get his dick knocking the dirt at Lambo against the Vikings.
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Moss to Green Bay (http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=247297) God I hope so! I'd like to see him get his dick knocking the dirt at Lambo against the Vikings.
He was just traded to the Patriots for their 4th round pick.
That gives Tom Brady 2 HUGE WR targets, Stallworth and Moss :o :o :o
Geez, add that to Laurence Maroney comin' out the backfield and a good defense, Patriots looking like a Top 3 team this year.
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Patriots looking like a Top 3 team this year.
They already were a top 3 team without Moss. This deal has to make them the early favorites next season.
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Patriots looking like a Top 3 team this year.
They already were a top 3 team without Moss. This deal has to make them the early favorites next season.
Okay, well, let's just say they leapt into that upper tier of San Diego, Indianapolis, Chicago, and Philadelphia (healthy McNabb) even in my mind now :)
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The Pats were a few plays away from going back to the Super Bowl last year. They solved that problem by signing receivers who don't drop passes and filled a huge hole at LB, a unit that flat out ran out of gas in the AFC championship. Adding Moss is just icing on the cake.
San Diego will still be there, as will Indy (but I still think they have big issues with their defense). Chicago and Philly, while good teams, are no where near the elite status of the three AFC teams.
So I'm just wondering how the Pats leap into the top five when they were there to begin with.
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I have to admit i am worried about the Pats. I think they did the best in the off season. I hope my Jets give them a run in the division.
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Adding Moss is just icing on the cake.
Is it? I wonder how that will turn out really.
Noticed a pool of folks thinkclaim it will be great for him at NE while others say he'll stink it up-and there will be marriage problems. Without being able to see the future, I'll just have to wait and see for myself.
Personally I would like him to suck there.
DS
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Is it? I wonder how that will turn out really.
Noticed a pool of folks thinkclaim it will be great for him at NE while others say he'll stink it up-and there will be marriage problems. Without being able to see the future, I'll just have to wait and see for myself.
Personally I would like him to suck there.
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The Pats have absolutely nothing to lose. It only cost them a 4th round pick (who they got from the 49ers) and at most it's going to cost them $5 million ($3 million plus a possible $2 million more in incentives). If he ***** up, then he's gone, the Pats eat his small 1 year contract and move on with the receiving corp they signed before Moss came aboard.
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Is it? I wonder how that will turn out really.
Noticed a pool of folks thinkclaim it will be great for him at NE while others say he'll stink it up-and there will be marriage problems. Without being able to see the future, I'll just have to wait and see for myself.
Personally I would like him to suck there.
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If he ***** up, then he's gone, the Pats eat his small 1 year contract and move on with the receiving corp they signed before Moss came aboard.
Which is what I hope for --my dislike and wishes for disfortune are mainly for him and not aimed towards the Pats
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Is it? I wonder how that will turn out really.
Noticed a pool of folks thinkclaim it will be great for him at NE while others say he'll stink it up-and there will be marriage problems. Without being able to see the future, I'll just have to wait and see for myself.
Personally I would like him to suck there.
DS
I bet you'd like him if he were a 49er though.
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I'm tired of Moss and the Pats, so here's hoping he's got no more gas in the tank and they stink this year. Here's what I want to know going into next season:
1.) How do the Packers expect to run the ball with noah Herron and a rook?
2.) When is Dallas going to start really utilizing M. Barber III? Didn't he have like 14 TD's as a back-up/goal line specialist?
3.) Is Oakland actually going to be worse than last year? The only guy I can remember that's still on the team is Aaron Brooks and that's not a good sign.
4.) Is McNabb going to be the same guy that started out the first half of last year or is he done?
5.) Who do you think will be the best rusher in 2007 (Yards + TDs)? I'm not a niners fan, but my money's on Frank Gore.
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1.) How do the Packers expect to run the ball with noah Herron and a rook?
They won't. They suck.
2.) When is Dallas going to start really utilizing M. Barber III? Didn't he have like 14 TD's as a back-up/goal line specialist?
As soon as Julius Jones gets hurt. But I think Barber is going to get more carries than the 135 he had last year. If I remember correctly he carried a lot more in the last few games.
3.) Is Oakland actually going to be worse than last year?
Not possible.
4.) Is McNabb going to be the same guy that started out the first half of last year or is he done?
He'll be back f'shizzle.
5.) Who do you think will be the best rusher in 2007 (Yards + TDs)? I'm not a niners fan, but my money's on Frank Gore.
LaDainian Tomlinson.
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Is it? I wonder how that will turn out really.
Noticed a pool of folks thinkclaim it will be great for him at NE while others say he'll stink it up-and there will be marriage problems. Without being able to see the future, I'll just have to wait and see for myself.
Personally I would like him to suck there.
DS
I bet you'd like him if he were a 49er though.
You are as shallow as I expected. I loathed TO as a niner too-does that tell you anything? I expect you're not deep enough though ::).
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I used to think more highly of McNabb as well(as a person) but this public griping about the Eagles draft is pathetic-honestly, I wouldn't expect it from him-but then, there it is. I guess what made me the most sick was his BS comment 'I was as surpised as everyone else' about the team drafting a QB. BS, I'm not everyone else and considering Garcia's departure and McNabb's injury status lately- I think it was logical for the team to do that. Honestly, when I look back at many of the greatest all-time QB's, they never made statements like that to the media- they just went out and secured their job as usual for the next season. I guess, though, that this is a spoiled-generation-expecting-things era -and when they don't get it, they cry :P.
Unless, of course he's going for the angle that he's invinceable, that there is no way he'll get injured again this year- that despite what happened last year, we should all forget about that and the team should not dare threaten his job security by drafting other QB's. Surely he looked back to the injuries last year to understand his team's position before making the shallow statements to the media??
I mean the team gave up JG, what's Donovan so worried about? Unless of course he really is that insecure and I never noticed it before...hmmm.
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There's no shortage of idiots (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2867381) in the NFL, that's for sure.
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There's no shortage of idiots (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2867381) in the NFL, that's for sure.
Well hopefully they keep him out and that's one less idiot to deal with. You owe how much money and you're still doing this crap? I totally believe in second chances, but this guy's on his like 6th or 7th.
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Steelers have a guy running an escort service with underage girls in it out in Vegas... The NFL certainly isn't short of degenerates.
In other Steeler Nation News, Alan Faneca is wanting out, bigtime, and making a big stink about it publicly... Which sucks, he's a nice guy but you really look like a putz doing what he is publicly. Great player too, and a big blow to the locker room leadership of the team from what is told. :( Like we haven't had enough troubles... We have picked up a RB though, which we needed, and our drafting filled big holes.
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I'm shocked that this thread isn't all a buzz with discussion about Mike 'the human POS' Vick's and his new federal indictment.
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I saw a bit about it today.
The only offseason news that's caught my eye is the return of Hard Knocks to HBO this August. It's the ultimate in reality television, and NFL Films does a great job in producing this show. This season they're following the Kansas City Chiefs. And I wonder if the show might give us some insight into whether or not the Chiefs ran RB Larry Johnson too much last season.
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Vick Shmick. Ron Mexico is a no-talent over-hyped waste of a QB. He'd make a great runningback, end of story.
I'd rather hear some news about some of the up and coming RB's who had monster seasons last year. What do you think of the likes of L. Maroney, F. Gore, M. Jones-Drew, and Marion Barber III? Will they improve over last year or are they all one year wonders? My money is on MB3 to really shine in Dallas this year.
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Vick Shmick. Ron Mexico is a no-talent over-hyped waste of a QB. He'd make a great runningback, end of story.
If he wasn't so incredibly fragile maybe.
Vick would be out for the year after a week or two of 20 carries.
The guy sucks, and he's soon to be a convicted criminal who could get 6 years in prison.
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Vick and his brother Marcus are just flat out no damn good, they're both on the way to a rap sheet as long as their arm.
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Ever get the feeling the NFL players are jealous of the NBA rep.
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RIP Bill Walsh (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070730/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_obit_walsh_13;_ylt=AmTUP3nHTWUK3GTqxw4KZyxkM3wV)
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:'(
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Okay, fantasy drafts are coming up and I have the #6 pick. I'm taking a RB, so who are your top 6 in a TD-only league? I currently think it will fall as follows:
L. Tomlinson
S. Jackson
L. Johnson
S. Alexander
R. Johnson
F. Gore/L. Maroney (one of these two is a keeper in our league, as is J. Addai)
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I don't think you'll see a lot of answers to that right now, we're drafting in about three weeks so guys are playing cards pretty close right now is my guess.
I don't see you getting any of the top three though. :-X ;)