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Title: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Hung Solow on June 2, 2003, 10:49 AM
Do you think I should send a egreeting to Philip and the mods, if I get banned.  I just let them know that threatening to ban me is like pissing in the wind.  I own 3 computers, and have access to many modems, plus I work for Time Warner.  I despise idle threats.  I come and go as I please.  If I get tired of them, I simply won't visit any longer.  They should consider themselves lucky that they have me, rather than give me flack.  While I may annoy some, I like to think that I add my own unique flavor.  Would this be too much???  I'm not going to give an official "I'm leaving" statement.  It's lame, and would probably get deleted anyways.   ::)  I don't blame the Nazis for what they did.  Hitler was in control.   I try not to have their mods.  Like Neil Young said... "It'd better to burn out, than fade away".  If anyone wants to add their name, LMK.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: dustrho on June 2, 2003, 11:02 AM
"You must do what you feel is right." ------ Ben Kenobi
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 2, 2003, 12:25 PM
Yea, Phil threatened to ban me because I refused to remove my signature... It was a WW2 Northern Aviation Poster quote, and just happened to say, "japs" and "Nazis" in it... Phil decided that "japs" was offensive, and said I had an attitude.

I can't say I'm too fond of some of the staff at Rebelscum, so I hardly ever post there anymore.

Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Morgbug on June 2, 2003, 12:33 PM
What benefit would it have if you did?  Would you get some satisfaction out of it?  Would there be a point other than you can?  

The deal is that Philip is responsible for the site and as such, legally responsible for the content.  I do not agree with lots of what RS is doing right now, but the content that may be deemed offensive, whether you think so or not, is Philip's responsibility.  That the words "Japs" and "Nazis" are deemed contextually offensive or a liability risk is not at all unusual.  Is it correct?  Nope, not necessarily, but hey, run your own site, make your own rules.  When the Japanese veterans society lawyer sends you a letter regarding the "harmful content" of your site, you can take the risk associated with your decision.  Similarly when the Jewish community gets up in arms (or the non-Nazi German community is offended) you can bear the brunt of their anger.  

Are those events happening?  Nope, I seriously doubt it, but in the litigenous US they easily could.  The point is not what you find offensive, it's what the site owner finds offensive.  Try the same stunts at boards you remain fond of and see how long your behaviour is tolerated.  

That said, I'm not much of a fan of RS and haven't been for quite a while.  It's been far too juvenile for this old man for too long.  It's sad, but I've never seen the point of pouring gasoline on an open flame.  
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JediMAC on June 2, 2003, 01:44 PM
I say you just let it go David.  They've gotten the point now from a number of different members and former members there now.  It probably won't do any good to just keep harrassing them or fanning the flames (this suggestion goes for everyone here really).  Not to mention it wouldn't reflect terribly well on us here at JediDefender, since you've become an active member over here now.

While we generally don't agree with some of the rules and changes that have been put in place recently at RS, or how they don't seem to care about their forum community there, we don't want to start a "site war" between us and them.

I say we all just let 'em be, and concentrate on continuing to enjoy the great atmosphere, more lenient classifieds, friendly community, and more caring and helpful staff here at JD.   8)

My $.02
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 2, 2003, 02:26 PM
I agree with Matt just let it go.  I'm going to slowly stop posting over there and fade away once I see if they come up and start answering people's questions but after that I'm going to stop posting over there for the near future.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Reconsgt on June 2, 2003, 02:43 PM
I personally would just aviod that site if you feel that way. Nothing will come out of sending " hate " mail to Philip. Everyone may not like his rules or choice of mods, or other things he chooses to do with his site but in the end it is his decision to make on how he wants to run RS. It is everyone else's choice to participate in his or any other site. In the end I can't see any good comming out of emailing negative things to RS staff. Anyway that type of thing usually justifies their reasoning for banning people or implementing other changes, it certainly won't make them rethink their actions it will only cause your opinions to be quickly dismissed.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Sith Lord Cosmo on June 2, 2003, 04:50 PM
Let it go.  Its not worth it.  Just stop posting there, as I've done
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Boba Binks on June 2, 2003, 05:41 PM
I have to agree with the rest of the group here. I say just leave. It is very childish over there and people seem to want all the glory.

The mods here do their best to keep the peace and keep the trolls out of here. This is a very respected place. You will like it here.

Keep up the good work everyone.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darby on June 3, 2003, 05:20 AM
I have to agree with the group.  I'd let it go.  I don't think engaging them in the way you suggest will be positive.  We have a nice little community here, and I'd be glad just for that.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: DSJ™ on June 3, 2003, 09:22 AM
I see no sense creating a disturbance in the Force. Just leave & let it go.  
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: TopJedi on June 3, 2003, 09:38 AM
Hung, I say just forget about it also........It's not worth the hassle......and it's obvious the admins don't respect the members enough to answer some very important questions which have arisen from thier new set of rules.....to me this is a slap in the face to the forum members......they are there long enough to post new rules....yet can't take the time to answer questions about the rules.....

I have already started to slack off posting at RS........That place is going downhill faster than an avalanche.......but I don't blame all of the mods.....I've met Bryan in person and have found him to be a really reasonable and likeable guy.......and I don't feel as if he's part of the problem there.

I did change my sig line at RS.....and from what I've found it is complaint with every current standing rule.......so they can't tell me to remove it based on a rule violation.

Here's my new sig line:

"Are you looking for a place where Star Wars and other toylines can be freely discussed,bought,sold or traded? Then Check out JediDefender.com"


I figured why not show people the other option...without raising hell about it............but I wouldn't go so far as to waste my time sending an e-mail to Phillip or any other staff members.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 3, 2003, 12:58 PM
I'm with you Brian.  Good idea.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: hansloroll on June 4, 2003, 02:24 AM
Just stop going there.It isn't worth the aggravations.I hate their recent implementations but oh well.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 4, 2003, 02:44 PM
My posting severely dropped off over since these new rules started coming into effect.

I thought about posting an "I'm leaving" thread, or something asking what's the deal with the sudden influx of all the new (and harsh) rules....but I don't see what good it would do.

I've just stopped posting there almost completely, which is no small feat considering I spent all day at work there most every day for a LOOOOOONG time.

Instead,  I've just found other ways to screw around during the day when I'm bored.


Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: MisterPL on June 4, 2003, 04:11 PM
Yes, if you're going to screw around at work, do it here.

As I understand it, this is about circumventing the profanity filter, is it not? If so, this is a rule that's been in place for some time, Philip's just now getting around to enforcing it. I wouldn't bother raising a stink. Star Wars could use a nice G-rated collecting forum outside the Official Site. If Philip thinks Rebelscum should be it, so be it.

The rule regarding Star Wars-only trades sounds a little fishy to me. I can't help but wonder if Philip's tidying the place up for guests in the wake of Paul Ens' warning in TF.N's Hyperspace Q&A that "there aren't many Lucasfilm 'police', so I imagine they will be keeping their most careful watch on the busiest street-corners," Rebelscum being one of them.

Are Philip and TheForce.net simply vying to become THE free Star Wars fanboy destination on the web?  ::)
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 4, 2003, 06:13 PM
Nah. I really don't care about the profanity thing. I am specifically referring to the trading rules, as they really affect this Simpsons Collector. They also affect me because I've bought a few things that weren't Star Wars from other folks there.

They've refused to talk about it anymore, and they ban people who make a stink (like Jango Fettish).

That to me is not cool.

It seems like a lot of people I liked chatting with are absent, or over here, so I don't see why I should hang out there.

As for what I'm doing with all that spare time, well, work has been a little busier, but I've also taken up playing Joust on Shockwave.com a bit.

I bet I'm better than all y'alls.   ;D
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: TopJedi on June 4, 2003, 06:49 PM
Josh I agree man....RS has lost it's pizazz that it originally had ....at least over the last few months.

I used to love the fact that I could pick up a Simpsons,MOTU,TMNT,GI Joe or other random figure as well as the Star Wars figure that I might be looking for......instead they slap us collectors in the perverbial face......and refuse to discuss the situation.......fine,so be it.

I refuse to bow to Phillip's crappy ideas any longer......so I'm now a PROUD JD member!
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Morgbug on June 4, 2003, 08:22 PM
Not that anyone is particularly concerned with what I think but I really do see it as a poor choice.  Hasbro's distribution sucks lately, probably even more than usual as lots of folks are having a terrible time finding stuff all over the US, never mind Canada.  Being collector's, there's a bit of an addiction thing going on and we need to hunt, to buy, and possibly to trade.  No new SW toys?  Grab another line or lines.  Simpsons, MOTU, LOTR, McFarlane whatever.  

I'll grant you, I've seen trade lists at RS without any SW content, but not many and usually from people with other SW trade lists.  I really don't get it.  Overall the place is dominated with SW content.  90% of the forums are SW only, Wuhers and the trade/classifieds were basically the only ones not.  

Weird decision, but not mine to say why.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 6, 2003, 02:11 PM
I checked over there today and there was a "rebelscum survey" post in Wuher's, which I responded to with a few of my general grievances and my reason for not being around so much anymore.

It seems that a lot of people are disenchanted with that place lately, and I thought the "survey" post was a good place to get it out there.
Maybe the mods will read the constructive criticism and take note, but somehow....I doubt it.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 6, 2003, 02:25 PM
I checked over there today and there was a "rebelscum survey" post in Wuher's, which I responded to with a few of my general grievances and my reason for not being around so much anymore.

It seems that a lot of people are disenchanted with that place lately, and I thought the "survey" post was a good place to get it out there.
Maybe the mods will read the constructive criticism and take note, but somehow....I doubt it.

Thats why I started it so that people can say what the feel and so that the mods/admins can see what the feeling of the community is.  I had to do the V2.0 since they was another Survey which was moved to they feedback section and after a few more repilies there it disappeared so I figure I will start this one.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 6, 2003, 02:33 PM
Well, it was a good idea, and I have now posted TWO replies to it. I'm anxious to see what people say as it gets rolling.

Before it gets deleted or moved...
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Diddly on June 6, 2003, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I'm going to slowly fade away also. This forum is really nice, so it will be the place where I drop the most posts from now on. The only reason left for me to hang around RS is the Austin Look What I Found thread. It has a nice group of people. Other than that, I'm pretty much through with RS.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 6, 2003, 02:51 PM
Well, it was a good idea, and I have now posted TWO replies to it. I'm anxious to see what people say as it gets rolling.

Before it gets deleted or moved...

Like I stated in that thread if it get lost I will just replace it and I just saved everysingle comment so far on it so the history of this one will conutine on the next one. ;)
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 6, 2003, 02:54 PM
Shane has a lot of nerve to say what he did. Either he's in denial, or just wants to ignore the fact that RS is in dire straits.

"Heck, i'm a mod and i belong to other boards but i've seen exodus's before and when it comes right down to it they never work out. "

Really. Well, I think I have 20 people, that joined JD in 2 weeks after defecting from Rebelscum that can prove that wrong.

How naive.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 6, 2003, 05:48 PM
Well, I think it's going to be a constructive thread....so far it hasn't deteriorated. I think I've kept my end of it very civil.....

BTW...Cory, are you still banned?
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 6, 2003, 06:16 PM
Just want to ask people that have been to RS and seen the thread if I'm being civil or not.  Just want to make sure and see what people think of what I'm saying.  I will take in comments bad or good, hopefully good. ;D
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 6, 2003, 06:17 PM
Shane has a lot of nerve to say what he did. Either he's in denial, or just wants to ignore the fact that RS is in dire straits.

"Heck, i'm a mod and i belong to other boards but i've seen exodus's before and when it comes right down to it they never work out. "

Really. Well, I think I have 20 people, that joined JD in 2 weeks after defecting from Rebelscum that can prove that wrong.

How naive.
I've honestly tried to find a place in my heart for Shane, but it seem like he's in total denial!  We've had our in's and out's, but he's spewing drivel.  I've gotten the same responce from a few of their mods.  What is going on over there!?!?!  Something is up, and they are not saying.  I like how they got all offended about the Hitler reference, but yet no one took the time to look at the similarities.  I guess they were too wrapped up in being offended.  Oh well, I'm not Superman, and I have no interest in saving the world.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 6, 2003, 06:58 PM
Totally civil. Alls you are doing is posing a question, no harm in that. Thing is, a few of the mods are "coming to the defense" of RS.

Shane, I dunno, he just doesn't get it.

Whats funny is that Apokolips chimed in with "You people are under a strange notion that this forum is a democracy."

It's never been a democracy, and Philip has never bothered polling his LOYAL (not anymore) forum members as to what they want to see or what they think will better improve the environment HE provides.

Oh well, not sweating it anymore. But if they continue to ignore forum members, and deny that there are better, more professional sites out there, that rude awakening will just be looking even ruder.

Oh, and say Hello to Rebelscum defector 21 in less than 3 weeks, DarthRaider.  :-*

Josh, I am very much eternally banished from RS.
Title: Re:RS,the joke that it has become.
Post by: CyberScout on June 6, 2003, 07:19 PM
Josh and Angry Ewok,my hats off to you guys for your comments over there.My feelings are the same on the matter.I'm not sure if Shane is in denial but I think he totally is missing the points being brought up.Cory I'll be glad when the day comes when your ban is up.You seemed to have gotten under their skin and that I do appreciate.

Personally I have my own problems with a certain mod over there and I will go down fighting to the very end if thats what it takes.Pointless? probably.At this point and time I just dont care anymore.

Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JediMAC on June 6, 2003, 07:20 PM
Just want to ask people that have been to RS and seen the thread if I'm being civil or not.  Just want to make sure and see what people think of what I'm saying.  I will take in comments bad or good, hopefully good. ;D

I think it's civil enough Tom.  But it's probably a good idea if we just keep the comments and opinions about RS over at RS for the most part.  That's where they'll do the most good, I'd imagine.  I realize that a lot of people here don't like some of the recent changes and actions (or lack thereof) over at 'Scum, and we've discussed them a fair amount already here now, but we really don't want to start up some kind of site war between us and them.  We're all still a part of the greater whole - the online Star Wars collecting community, and that's not something I personally want to see torn apart...

Hopefully folks can just check out both sites, or any others, and decide what's the best fit for them personally, and enjoy spending their time there.  Sometimes even a combination of the different forums works well for some people...  But we'd like to think of ourselves here at JD as a community that just wants to enjoy the positive, knowledgeable, and friendly vibe that we've carefully developed here, rather than talking down about any of our online neighbors, as fun or therapeutic as it may be.  Hopefully that's the style we can shoot for anyways.  I know that can be hard sometimes, especially at a time like this, and it's something that we all should work on as part of the JediDefender collecting family...

Anyways, that's just my thoughts on the matter...   :-*
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 6, 2003, 07:33 PM
Thanks for the words, Mike. If I do become reinstated at RS, it'll be out of mercy, I'm afraid. it's not like they are going to read my e-mails (the constructive criticism ones) and have an epiphany..then "un-ban" good ol' JF.

Not that I want to go back there anyway  :P

Anywho, I think Matt hit the nail on the head. Lets worry about Jedi Defender and how to make US better! I had asked Chris Berry about a potential image bank, lo and behold, he already spoke to Matt about it! We're on our way up.

Keep the professional, friendly attitude that people have come and WILL come to associate with JediDefender.com, then people we see how a member-driven, "Cheers" like forum conducts themselves!
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: CyberScout on June 6, 2003, 07:42 PM
Youre right Cory,both you and Matt.This topic really has no business being here and for that I apologize.I'm going to step down and wipe my hands clean of it.My main concern from this point forward is collecting and to try to be a helpful and positive member of the JediDefender collecting family.
Title: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on June 7, 2003, 12:23 AM
So who has left RS for this place.Don't be shy,also by leave I mean not post as much or flat out quit.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Batman on June 7, 2003, 12:28 AM
I just signed up with this place about 2 minutes ago and I see no difference in this place and rebelscum ::), but I guess I will be a commoner here too :).  
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Hung Solow on June 7, 2003, 12:28 AM
I think at last count, it was like 23 regulars.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on June 7, 2003, 12:47 AM
I think at last count, it was like 23 regulars.

Actually, probably about 80% - 90% of us here at JD were Rebelscum regulars at one point.  But many of us left in part or whole a long time ago, way before the Classifieds rule change ever came about there.  There was a whole "different group" there before many of you ever even joined, that perhaps you didn't know so well...

I'm guessing that D_C_F is actually trying to figure out how many just recently came over after their Classifieds rule change...  If you really want to know though, you can just scroll through the last page or two of our Member List to find out.  It's probably a lot easier and quicker than having a roll call here.   :-\

But like I've already mentioned in another thread, hopefully people will kindly refrain from doing any RS bashing here since that's not what JD is all about.  Just enjoy the friendly, knowledgeable, and most of all respectful vibe that we've already had going on here for quite a while, and everyone will be more than happy!   8)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: hansloroll on June 7, 2003, 02:10 AM
I dig your grokspeak.I'm here though I still check in but it has nothing to do with something as trivial as closing the trading restrictions but moreso directly related to finding the lost members of my tribe.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 7, 2003, 02:42 AM
Chris recruited me back when we (JediDefender.com) were known as JediChris.net... Ever since the URL change I've spent more and more time here and less time at RS...

As Batman says, there's not much a difference - except, for me at least, I feel like this is a closer community.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darby on June 7, 2003, 06:02 AM
I'm so glad you're here, hansloroll.  The tribe welcomes you home.   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: obi_robz on June 7, 2003, 06:09 AM
I don’t know if I count as a RS “regular” because I only started last December. But I have reduced my posting there by at least 50%, at least for the moment. The new rules didn’t bother me too much, it was more the fact that a lot of the true “regulars” started disappearing – I looked down the list of threads and didn’t see too many names I recognised.

There’s another big difference between the 2 boards, but I’m wondering if I’m just imagining it. Is Angry Ewok not very angry over here? I’ve not been here long enough to really judge, but he doesn’t seem to get so ratty at JD. Over at RS, he’s always snapping at people :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: TopJedi on June 7, 2003, 08:53 AM
I'm not going to bash RS here.....but I'm one that has left RS for the most part due to the classified rules...and other reasones stemming from admin and mod problems there.

I check in on RS to check my local collector thread there.....and browse over the vintage section to keep abreast of scam artists ;)

I am making JD my Star Wars home site.......and that's saying alot for me.

Keep up the superb work JD staff members!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 7, 2003, 10:23 AM
I just signed up with this place about 2 minutes ago and I see no difference in this place and rebelscum ::), but I guess I will be a commoner here too :).  

You're kidding, right? Of course, you've only been here for 2 minutes so you have no clue what kind of exact opposite JD is from RS.  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: sp00ky on June 7, 2003, 10:52 AM
RS was my first internet SW home.  I do like the smaller feel here though, only been here a few days though :)

I didn't really have a problem with the rules change at RS, because mainly I don't do a lot of trading through there.

I like it here, because its small, like a discussion between a group of friends.  

: insert sappy music here :

Scott
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Diddly on June 7, 2003, 01:31 PM
Yeah, I'll still frequent RS, but not as much. This will be my new main SW Internet Home.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 7, 2003, 01:38 PM
I still go there,but I'm really considering moving here.Nice to see everyone again,I was wondering what happend to some of you.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Morgbug on June 7, 2003, 02:08 PM
There’s another big difference between the 2 boards, but I’m wondering if I’m just imagining it. Is Angry Ewok not very angry over here? I’ve not been here long enough to really judge, but he doesn’t seem to get so ratty at JD. Over at RS, he’s always snapping at people :)


Oh don't you worry, Grumpy Ewok still snaps at people.  It just happens to be certain people. ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 7, 2003, 02:12 PM
Yea Yea, so I'm not so angry sounding....  :D... The folks here just don't give me a reason to be snappy, so far, at least.  ;)... Not to mention I'm a moderator and so I sorta represent the site, so I've got to be toned down a tad.  :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: ponda barfly on June 7, 2003, 03:06 PM
i pretty much just check here now, it wasnt so much the new rule over there more that it had been getting worse and worse all the time, i probaly will still check over there now and again, it was my forst home on the internet and loyality is very important, however by the time i check there again i probaly wont know any of the members there!


barfly
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Morgbug on June 7, 2003, 03:59 PM
Damn, you're all so sweet :'(  *sniff* :-* :P ;D
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: TopJedi on June 7, 2003, 05:49 PM
I just posted in that thread at RS for what it's worth.

I'm all for making JediDefender THE Premiere place for the friendly faces to hang out....LONG LIVE JD! ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Batman on June 7, 2003, 07:44 PM
I just signed up with this place about 2 minutes ago and I see no difference in this place and rebelscum ::), but I guess I will be a commoner here too :).  

You're kidding, right? Of course, you've only been here for 2 minutes so you have no clue what kind of exact opposite JD is from RS.  :P

I'm just saying it "looks" exactly the same as rebelscum.  I wasn't dissing the site or anything.  I am looking to switch to frequenting here more often because I like smaller communities better :).  Your right I have not been here long enough to judge this place, sorry :'(.  Jeez :-[.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on June 7, 2003, 07:55 PM
I'm just saying it "looks" exactly the same as rebelscum.  I wasn't dissing the site or anything.  I am looking to switch to frequenting here more often because I like smaller communities better :).  Your right I have not been here long enough to judge this place, sorry :'(.  Jeez :-[.

Cory's just teasin' you a little Batman!   ;)  2 minutes is just a little quick to pass judgement on a place, but we know that we're very different than RS here at JD, so we didn't take any offense to your comment.  I'm sure you'll enjoy the smaller, friendly and personal community that we've got goin' on here.  Glad you decided to be a part of it!
- Matt
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Scott on June 7, 2003, 09:59 PM
Someone must not have seen SSG almost go down in flames in May 2000 to know what a mass forum exodus is...and he still has never recovered from his blunders there

We appreciate you all coming here and what we have always wanted to do is create a community and broad based multi cultural, ethnic, age group of people who share a love for a movie with giant walking carpets and laser swords.  

We invited a lot of you and some of you have come on your own and we welcome you all here and want to continue to strive to make this the best place on the net for all of our members. :-*

And I think Matt said it all above, we at JD have no personal grudge against RS and most of us still do post there (at least the non banned staff do :-*) and it has been my home for a long time as well.  When Chris asked me to join the staff here I was skeptical because I didn't want to give up my posting on other forums and gradually over the last year we have made this site better and better each week to the point where a lot of us have made this our home and the other places our summer cottages and the like.  

The point that we are all geeks at heart and we can all get along is also very salient, I can go talk movies at RS, Music at GH and toys here and have a good time doing it...

Enough rambling, thanks one and all for making this place more and more special  :-*

Scott
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 7, 2003, 10:28 PM
Matt,the lady said no!Wait,wrong thread,anyway I think when he said it looked similar he meant that the recent post thing made it look similar,but other than that it is completly different,look around,RS is bright colors and JD is darker colors.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on June 7, 2003, 11:37 PM
I was never a forum member at RS, I actually have only joined forums here, at a tron site the bothan spy cuase a friend runs it. But I enjoy visiting many SW fans sites dedicated to toy news and general SW info.
I'm glad to be here, if it weren't for meeting Dale, I wouldnt have my clone trooper helmet ;)
thanks again to dale for making that a pleasant transaction.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: BushiFox on June 8, 2003, 07:57 AM
Hello.  I've used Rebelscum mainly for trading, so the new classified thing was a bit of a knife to the heart for me.  But, I think the big issue was the unwillingness to compromise.

Ah well.  If you guys don't watch out, you won't be able to tout your "small" group status.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 8, 2003, 10:26 AM
Not too worried about that. Our moderator crew is solid and know how to pick out the bad seeds if they come along.  >:(

Batman, I didn't mean anything negative by what I said, bro. It's just that there is no comparison between Jedi Defender and Rebelscum, aesthetically or quality wise.

Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: blimpyboy on June 8, 2003, 10:51 AM
Hey everyone, I just registered here.  It's nice to see some old timers who I hadn't seen in a good while.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 8, 2003, 10:56 AM
Another Matt! That makes 1,001!  :o

Blimpy, fly so high over to our "newbies" section (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=29) so you can get a proper introduction!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 8, 2003, 11:57 AM
I hope this place will always stay as cool.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: paploo on June 9, 2003, 08:03 AM
Hopefully folks can just check out both sites, or any others, and decide what's the best fit for them personally, and enjoy spending their time there.  Sometimes even a combination of the different forums works well for some people...  But we'd like to think of ourselves here at JD as a community that just wants to enjoy the positive, knowledgeable, and friendly vibe that we've carefully developed here, rather than talking down about any of our online neighbors, as fun or therapeutic as it may be.  Hopefully that's the style we can shoot for anyways.  I know that can be hard sometimes, especially at a time like this, and it's something that we all should work on as part of the JediDefender collecting family...

Anyways, that's just my thoughts on the matter...   :-*


you should go into politics
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: BushiFox on June 9, 2003, 08:59 AM
To:  Big Bosses of JediDefender

From:  BushiFox, Rebelscum LeaverPerson.

Subject:  Griping about Rebelscum.

It is natural for us that have gripes with another place to want to get said gripes off of our chest.  So, I do apologize that we are griping on your boards about another board, but, when our gripes at the other board are A.  Locked, B.  Deleted, C.  Banned, D.  fall on deaf ears, we feel we need to get our gripes out somewhere.

I'm sure you understand.  Its therapeutic if you will.  

So, please bear with us as we make the transistion from one place to another and we will try to get all of our griping out of the way in an orderly fashion.  Thanks.  :)

P.S.  Josheeeeeeeeeeeee, please point me to some good things to do on the internet while sitting at work with little else to do.  I'm running out of stuff to do!

Some suggestions from me:  www.pvponline.com  Read it from the beginning of the archives.  That is like, 3 years worth of comic strips to read.  Good stuff.  

www.userfriendly.org  is another good one.  They also have some links to some other good web comics, life of riley and nodstrom being two that I can think of right off hand.    Then there is www.snopes.com  Reading about urban legends.  Ummm, I'm going to play star wars galaxies, so I like to play on those forums.  www.comics.com for lots of newspaper comic strips.  www.neopets.com may seem like a kiddy site, but, they have a lot of games, and most of them are based on older atari style games.    Ok, thats it.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Hung Solow on June 9, 2003, 10:35 AM
don't go getting all mushy on us Cory. ;D ;) :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Broem on June 9, 2003, 11:32 AM
I am so happy that I was invited to JD.  Those people over there at Rebelscum were meanies.  That's right they were meanies <sniff, sniff wipes tears from face>!  But now that I've found JD my sad frown has turned upside down!  I am happy!  So happy and free :)  

Just joking around a bit.  I like Rebelscum but for whatever reason it started turning into a fight fest and this place does not seem to have that undercurrent.  Not yet anyway.  So, I'm sticking around here for the majority of my Star Wars pleasure time.  
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Diddly on June 9, 2003, 01:55 PM
I was over at RS oday, and it sounds like people are starting to rebel against GNT. That place is just turning into a war zone. ::)

One of the main reasons I'm leaving is the politics. For example, we can be talking about movies or something, and somebody will crack a political joke. Another member will take that joke seriously, and we'll have a political debate in a soon to be locked thread. I alsoheard about the trading rule. It doesn't affect me since I don't trade, but I think it is kinda unfair also.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 9, 2003, 02:53 PM
I know,as soon as we all jumped boat,the war really started.I see why the CSW people went to GH(I did too).
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on June 9, 2003, 03:09 PM
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I was over at RS oday, and it sounds like people are starting to rebel against GNT

Oooh. Now, you just gave me a reason to visit that site today.

J/K....maybe....  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Virex on June 9, 2003, 03:29 PM
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I was over at RS oday, and it sounds like people are starting to rebel against GNT

Oooh. Now, you just gave me a reason to visit that site today.

J/K....maybe....  ;D

Hell, dude, weren't you the one campaigning for GNT to be a mod?
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on June 9, 2003, 04:22 PM
I think GNT was a natural choice for mod. The dude spends nearly 24 hours a day online at that site.

I was only implying by my post that it would be a funny thread to go see (A rebellion against GNT) but I went there and it wasn't much.

I've never really had a problem with the guy. He's rather neutral across all lines I'd say.

Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 9, 2003, 04:34 PM
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P.S.  Josheeeeeeeeeeeee, please point me to some good things to do on the internet while sitting at work with little else to do.  I'm running out of stuff to do!

Lately, my website of choice, is shockwave.com....where I like to play 80's arcade classics. Particularly, Joust.

My high score is 212000, and I challenge anyone here to top that.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Mandalorian Madman on June 9, 2003, 11:52 PM
just made the migration. woot!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Ghidorah on June 9, 2003, 11:55 PM
It is good to see familiar faces.

(RS rant deleted)


Edit by JediMAC:
Venting a few RS frustrations is fine - to a limited degree, but some of this stuff is going a little overboard and is dragging JD's friendly and positive vibe way down.  Let's try to keep the RS criticisms at least somewhat decent and constructive, if they must be made at all.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 9, 2003, 11:58 PM
I am so happy that I was invited to JD.  Those people over there at Rebelscum were meanies.  That's right they were meanies <sniff, sniff wipes tears from face>!  But now that I've found JD my sad frown has turned upside down!  I am happy!  So happy and free :)  

Just joking around a bit.  I like Rebelscum but for whatever reason it started turning into a fight fest and this place does not seem to have that undercurrent.  Not yet anyway.  So, I'm sticking around here for the majority of my Star Wars pleasure time.  

I notice a particularly strong resolve here to keep this place clean with respect all around at all times.

That is the reason why I'm here, to avoid flames, concentrate on Star Wars, and for the fresh start.

This place will stay clean as long as we want it to.  RS is too far gone right now to enjoy.  Unless you want to stay there for the Jerry Springer atmosphere.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: SnowtrooperHoth on June 10, 2003, 12:27 AM
I dont know, im only here because someone said this place was cool. But im still sticking with RS. Ive made a lot of friends there and met up with some really cool people from my area from those boards. But im always up for doing 2 message boards at once :D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Nicklab on June 10, 2003, 01:41 PM
just made the migration. woot!

Dude, has anyone ever commented that your username is kind of tasteless?  For those who don't know, Sonderkommando's were the Jews in concentration camps that the Nazi's and SS impressed to work the crematoriums.  I hate to take this whole thing off-topic, but the word is frankly kind of offensive.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on June 10, 2003, 01:54 PM
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For those who don't know, Sonderkommando's were the Jews in concentration camps that the Nazi's and SS impressed to work the crematoriums.  I hate to take this whole thing off-topic, but the word is frankly kind of offensive.

Wow....I suppose you DO learn something new everyday.

Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Nicklab on June 10, 2003, 02:02 PM
It seemed signifigant enough to bring it out into the open.  For further clarification on the subject, refer to this page: http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t072/t07216.html (http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t072/t07216.html).
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on June 10, 2003, 02:06 PM
The situation is being dealt with, I appreciate your bringing it to our attention. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 10, 2003, 02:23 PM
Thanks,because it was bothering me(Some of my family was wiped out during the genocides,but my grandfather did help smuggle jews out of europe :))
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: amarsella on June 11, 2003, 01:37 AM
I just came over from Rebelscum at the invitation of JediMac. Thanks Matt.

I hardly ever posted there. It seems like it's mostly kids and egomaniacs. A lot of flaming and bashing and lots of the same threads posted over and over again. I was a regular and a staffer for a bit at CSW until they merged with Rebelscum. I tried to get into posting at GH but it seems like days between posts sometimes. It definitely seems like a better vibe here and I'm sure I be sticking around.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2003, 02:33 AM
I just came over from Rebelscum at the invitation of JediMac. Thanks Matt.

My pleasure Anthony!  We're glad to have you here at JD.  I'm sure you'll enjoy the very friendly and personal vibe we've got goin' on here, not to mention having some of the most knowledgeable and helpful collectors on the net here as well.  Feel free to drop any of the staff a line if you've got any questions, comments or suggestions about anything.  And if you feel like it, you can always stop by the Newbie Forum and introduce yourself there if you really want to get a proper reception!   ;)  Enjoy the site...
Title: This is rich...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 11, 2003, 11:38 PM
I found this as a closed thread on the other site.  I found it humorous.  BTW.  They were refered to as the "Fourth Reich".  Do you think they are getting the message???


"The thread in question was moved to the admin section and as per numerous requests, we are attempting to explain why threads simply dissapear.

We reserve the right to remove any content we deem unfit to our viewers as a whole.

This thread with it's numerous references comparing our moderation team to the third reich is simply uncalled for and will not be tolerated.

--------------------
Dustin L Roberts
Rebelscum.com
Always looking to add R2-D2 items to my collection"
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Morgbug on June 11, 2003, 11:57 PM
Yep, happy to have mr. ship seller amarsella over here.  Not sure if you recall, but I bought a fair bit of stuff from you last year.  Great deals and a big help to me. Happy to have you here too.  
Title: Re: This is rich...
Post by: Chris on June 12, 2003, 12:01 AM
I'm sorry to do this David, but this thread has to be closed. While we understand you have frustrations with that site, we just can't have the constant bashing. Because of the recent posts and comments members having been making here at JediDefender, we have instituted an "anti-bashing" policy for the time being until all of these site issues settle down. I truly hope you understand where I am coming from, we are just trying to keep the peace. Feel free to shoot me an e-mail or PM to talk about this. Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Diddly on August 8, 2003, 12:26 PM
I just felt like bumping this to see what everybody thinks about the latest flaming and the return of "Post Padding".
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 8, 2003, 01:27 PM
I just felt like bumping this to see what everybody thinks about the latest flaming and the return of "Post Padding".

Understood, but in the same token, we don't like bad mouthing other sites here at JD, so let's try to follow the old addage: "If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all..."

Thanks!   :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Famine on August 8, 2003, 03:54 PM
I left, for, well, the kindest way to say this is:

If your not somebody there, your a nobody. Thats it. I noticed Unless you have 32849384242.2 billion posts, your a nobody.

And when I posted about the Gay Bishop in the Homosexual marrige thread, the mod was all over me like white on rice covered in maggots in the middle of alaska in a blizzard durring the night. (that was a mouthfull)

Kevin


Some of the members there are nice, but the community...isnt. Thats why they are called Scum I guess. ;-)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 8, 2003, 04:41 PM
I left, for, well, the kindest way to say this is:

If your not somebody there, your a nobody. Thats it. I noticed Unless you have 32849384242.2 billion posts, your a nobody.

Fortunately, everybody's a somebody here at JD Kev!  After all, this is the Cheers of the online collecting community!   8)

Doesn't matter if you've got 10 posts or 1,000 here...  Quality over quantity any day, in my books!  Ranks right up there with being friendly and civil, and getting to actuallly know your collecting comrades here!  SW collecting doesn't have to just be about the figures themselves, it can be about making some good buddies online as well!  That's why a lot of us have chosen to take up shop right here at JD...

Granted, we generally do prefer to leave the political/sexual/potentially combustible conversations elsewhere though...   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Dimetrodon on August 8, 2003, 08:03 PM
i've quit rebelscum... but go back if a friend links me...
thats about it..
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: BobaShek on August 8, 2003, 08:06 PM
I think there's a fraction of a hope that the Rebelscum forums can be turned back into the place we knew and loved (or something close to it), so I'll be visiting there regularly (for the time being). :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: MetalJedi on August 8, 2003, 09:24 PM
Maybe one day that will happen. When they get rid of all the politics and constant bickering.

I still go back for the customs discussion. Thats about it.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 8, 2003, 09:27 PM
I look at it as one good moderator (bib) out of all the ones they have...sad so sad. :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: roguestormtrooper on August 8, 2003, 11:25 PM
Even though I still post over at RS,  It really is alot more personal over here and I enjoy the time I spend here.  There are some really good conversations that take place over here and hope that it continues.  As far as all the bickering and other things taking place lately,  I just stay out of it...  It's not worth getting into.

Chris   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 9, 2003, 01:04 PM
I'm still over there all the time (as you guys probably know) just due to the speed of responses.

I like this place a lot better, and I always think to myself it would be my first and only stop if it were only more populated......

BUT THEN I think, hey...if it was more populated, it might just turn into another 'Scum.

So....this place is my cool down joint, and that place is the mosh pit.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Matt Carroll on August 9, 2003, 01:34 PM

Understood, but in the same token, we don't like bad mouthing other sites here at JD, so let's try to follow the old addage: "If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all..."

Thanks!   :-*

Awww nuts!  :P ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: jjks on August 9, 2003, 01:54 PM
I just wanted to stop over here and applaud OCB's work on the RS forums last night. Definitely sent a message!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 9, 2003, 03:16 PM
Well now that your over here ya might as well make yourself comfortable...  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 9, 2003, 03:24 PM
Awww nuts!  :P ;)

But we're willing to make special exceptions for VIPs, such as Galactic Hunter admins...   ;)

So please, feel free to unload Matt!

I like this place a lot better, and I always think to myself it would be my first and only stop if it were only more populated......

BUT THEN I think, hey...if it was more populated, it might just turn into another 'Scum.

Not a chance.  We have a WAY more proactive approach to overseeing our forums, it's members, and it's content.  We actually CARE about our boards here, and would NEVER let any of that CRAP fly here.  I'm still wanting to vomit right now from the nonsensical things going on over there - especially in the last 24 hours - and I'm not referring to what Scott did - but the response(s) thereto, and the specific incident that led to said rampage.

I just wanted to stop over here and applaud OCB's work on the RS forums last night. Definitely sent a message!

I definitely applaud the work, and agree that it sent a message.  BUT, I don't think that message is going to be heard in the slightest bit.  Now all the kids over there just think that Scott's a giant "post padder", which is one of the most laughable and ludicrous things I've ever heard.  People making 2300 posts in 3 months calling SCOTT a "post padder"...???   ::)  Like the rest of us, Scott could absolutely care less what the hell his stupid post count is!  It's beyond pathetic there right now...

Whoops!  Did I say don't say anything if you have nothing nice to say?  Damn.  I hate it when I'm a hypocrite!   :P  I would've kept my trap shut, if not for a certain mod running around locking and deleting random posts and threads at his own discretion over there if they said anything about him...   :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 9, 2003, 04:55 PM
I don't know what it's going to take over there to get someone to listen. I think sometimes it's like they HAVE to see the place literally burn to the ground before they react, and make a change or two.

However....regarding Matt's comments about this place in comparison, I would like to see what would happen if JD finally got that kind of traffic.

I mean the front page of Wattos Junk Yard has less than 10 active topics in the last 2 days....whereas over there Wuher's has 10 active topics in the last hour, and (partially thanks to Scott) probably 10 times that amount in the last two days.

What if some of the mods of this site volunteered for double duty?   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: obi_robz on August 9, 2003, 05:39 PM
It would be great to have a few more people here…the lack of traffic has been the only downside for me, and has kept me at RS like it did when I first started posting there.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Force Guy on August 9, 2003, 05:48 PM
Quality over quantity any day, in my books!  Ranks right up there with being friendly and civil, and getting to actuallly know your collecting comrades here!  

I agree Matt.  However, if conversations are limited to a "non-politcal" nature, how can you really get to know someone?  I mean, it's nice to know what someone's favorite color is, or which movie they really like, etc., but to really know someone, you will eventually have to touch on "political" subjects at some point.  Personally, I prefer to make "friends" with someone based on moral principles rather than one based on which figures we really like.  ;)  Don't worry, as long as I'm here, I'll "play nice," but I just thought I'd make a point.  
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Membraneman on August 9, 2003, 07:17 PM

But we're willing to make special exceptions for VIPs, such as Galactic Hunter admins...   ;)



Hey, does that apply to me too?? :D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 9, 2003, 08:02 PM


However....regarding Matt's comments about this place in comparison, I would like to see what would happen if JD finally got that kind of traffic.


I would assume that Chris Berry and the other Adims here will start a search to find more mods  and get people who actually moderate they repespected areas and take action against people who repeatly break rules.  
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Dimetrodon on August 9, 2003, 08:25 PM
I think there's a fraction of a hope that the Rebelscum forums can be turned back into the place we knew and loved (or something close to it), so I'll be visiting there regularly (for the time being). :)

 hope for what? a better scum?
with a name like that... it can't stay good forever.

plus why bother have hope for them when the better palce is the here and now?
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 9, 2003, 08:37 PM
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plus why bother have hope for them when the better palce is the here and now?

Because as nice and friendly as this place is, there are only a handful of posts every day to look at.

I'd love to see either Rebelscum settle down, or this place liven up.....but neither one is the optimal hangout in it's current condition (unless you only like to stop by once a day.)   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Dimetrodon on August 9, 2003, 08:50 PM
much truth to what you say, but even then... if we all invited people then it will liven up.
even recently i brought on two new people, every bit helps this place.

but thats a story for another time and off the topic.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 10, 2003, 05:26 AM
...if conversations are limited to a "non-politcal" nature, how can you really get to know someone?  I mean, it's nice to know what someone's favorite color is, or which movie they really like, etc., but to really know someone, you will eventually have to touch on "political" subjects at some point.  Personally, I prefer to make "friends" with someone based on moral principles rather than one based on which figures we really like.  ;)  Don't worry, as long as I'm here, I'll "play nice," but I just thought I'd make a point.

Fair enough, but I think it's different for different people.  Politics doesn't play such a big part in my life or a lot of other people here for that matter, and I could honestly care less what most people think about it really.  Same goes for several other "hot topics", such as religion or sexual orientation.  That doesn't mean I don't know what people here think about it though, just that we generally don't discuss it right out in the open is all...

There's a LOT of ways to get to know folks other than "bickering" over certain issues in the middle of the forums.  A lot of us here exchange numerous (personal) e-mails and PMs, and many of us chat quite frequently in either the JD chat, or via our AIM accounts.  Throw in the fact that we do a lot of trading with eachother, a number of us talk on the phone, and even more of us get together with other members here in person.  It really all adds up to most of us knowing eachother pretty well here.

I'd also add that we have a lot more substantive threads here than just "favorite color" and such (I know that was just an extreme example you used to make your point there).  We've discussed people's families, jobs, hobbies, goals, houses, feelings, health issues, etc, etc.  So just 'cause we don't touch on a couple potentially explosive issues doesn't mean we don't know a helluva lot about eachother in most other respects.  Plus, like I already mentioned, outside of the forums we often will discuss some of the other hotter and more personal topics.

Just the fact that most of us even know eachother by (real) name puts us way ahead of other forums on a personal level.  Beyond that, many of us could probably tell you the names and ages of many members wives, husbands, girlfriends, boyfriends, children, pets, what kind of car they drive, what they do, where they live...  It goes on and on really.  Heck, some of us are even talking about getting some vacation plans together just to all hang out for a while and have some real fun!

So just send some e-mails or PMs, or hop in the chat or on AIM from time to time, and you'd be surprised at just how quickly you can get to know your fellow JD'ers personally.  I've always said that JD is much more than just a forum to discuss your thoughts on SW stuff.  It's also a place to make friends, which is what I think really makes this place special...   8)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 10, 2003, 01:07 PM
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Just the fact that most of us even know eachother by (real) name puts us way ahead of other forums on a personal level.  Beyond that, many of us could probably tell you the names and ages of many members wives, husbands, girlfriends, boyfriends, children, pets, what kind of car they drive, what they do, where they live...  It goes on and on really.

OK, that's just scary to me. Does that mean you guys actually listen when I divulge stuff like that?   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 10, 2003, 11:50 PM
I have a lot to say on this but will keep it short for now to on one point...

Matt Carroll and Bob and other old school CSWers Chris, Jamie, Matt, Matt, Matt and Matt...oh and Matt)can attest...RS traffic is no different than what CSW traffic was, there weren't flame wars, 13 year old trolls and if there were, they were dealt with accordingly.  Something I pointed out to you many time this past spring Josh and my biggest beef with what happens there in general is a total and utter lack of respect for anyone...and a lot of that I cannot explain.  It is like ******* Junior High School, partly because the owners of said site I firmly believe are more interested in the revenues generated from the forums than the people who generate that revenue...the other being imcompetent staff and arrogant as hell admins.

There is a tie to our brethern at GH (all good guys ;)) who I want to mention as well but no time right now...I have some thinking to do and want to make sure I have time to say it right ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on August 11, 2003, 12:48 AM
I am going to jump in here. I have been around since the CSW days, and I loved that site. The forums were just so much fun to take part in, read, etc. IMO, that was and IS still the best. Period.

I started my angelfire page 2 years ago for fun. A personal page of mine, for the collection, etc. Well, it turned into a bit of news reporting. Then forums. I then decided I wanted a CSW. Being very ignorant and having no clue what this would involve, I opened up JediChris.net thinking that I would just magically open and have a large community and site. I was dead wrong, dead wrong. JediChris.net had it's "up's and down's" but I always had that dream of having a great community like CSW.

When CSW and RS merged, I was not too happy, but with the CSW crew still in charge along with the RS gang, I thought things would be ok, and they were. Towards the "end" of the CSW/BHC boards great rule, things started getting bad.

I had been preparing something over the summer, that I would debut in the fall. This site would fulfull my dream. It was the perfect opportunity. The BHC boards had failed (as they still do, very much so, even more these days) and I now had the perfect chance. I would bring back the community of the hobby. I have such a passion for JediDefender, and want to share it with everyone. We have the best modern collectors from all of the sites here now, I can guarantee that and will let no one dispute it. The best Star Wars toy conversation is here, at JediDefender. They realize our goals and feel comfortable here.

We now need to get the "butt's in the forums".

Please tell your online friends or anyone that you come in contact with to come to JediDefender! To get more people here in the forum, we need your help. For the site to come full circle, I am relying on our members. We have the first aspect of the BHC down, which is extreme quality, the next phase is the number of people. The staff will continue to work our hardest to maintain excellence but we ask that you show your support for the site by doing the tasks above.

I am very proud to lead this site and the great people that visit, contribute, and make the hobby a blast for me. Thank You!

Best Regards,
Chris Berry
Administrator and Editor
JediDefender.com
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Matt Carroll on August 11, 2003, 01:22 AM
I've come to the realization that me telling my perspective and story on the whole RS/CSW merger and the BHC/'Scum forums from that point to now isn't going to do anyone any good at all. :-X

After the GH split, I realized that the spirit of what was the BHC was no longer present at 'Scum's forums - they had turned into something else completely and  had a different feel. I hadn't visited Wuher's in the longest time until someone emailed me and told me to check out Scott's "work" from the other night.  I'm really at  RS anymore only to read the vintage forums and was really caught off-guard to the extent that things had changed over there. Heck, I think 90% of the people in there would treat me as a newbie if I started posting in the Cantina again, which is a very weird feeling, since that place felt like home for 2 years.

I've been asked if I'm disappointed with the state of the GH forums and I have to say, I'm not in the least. IMO, the most important part of a good, fun community is a solid base, which I think both GH and JD have (especially since a good portion of the bases for each site are comprised of the same people). I'm around the people with whom I've discussed Star Wars and life in general for the last 5 years; people that I've helped out with items or those that have helped me out; people that I've spent a good portion of the day with at C2 - people that I've come to know and respect as friends. Even though I haven't been around these forums as much as I'd like to, I get the exact same vibes about the community that is beginning to blossom here.  Numbers should never be the quantifying measure of the success or failure of a forum, but rather the quality of the people and the posts.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: jadesfire on August 11, 2003, 04:45 PM
Well....I had no intentions of even reading this thread but I hit it by accident and I was sucked in.

I've been at the other forums (much like everyone else) and have watched the decay of one of my favorite places, that being the Rebeslcum forums.  I only posted in CSW when i first joined the "online" community about 4 years ago.  I lurked at SSG but that's all and enrolled under a different name at theforce.net (jadesfire was taken).  I enjoyed the "talk" and began to build trading/selling friendships with several board members.  Then, when RS and CSW merged, I started posting a little bit less.  Part of it was me and part of it was that the site just started to take off and there was a lot more threads to read.  And then Mike left.  I joined GH and never looked back.  

I still post in the prop section at RS, it's a great community and for the most part, you don't have the teenage babble since they can't really afford the line.  I know, I know....I'm taking a direct stab at a certain group but it's the truth.   I'll read the 12" section but it's always so blasted negative it's hard to go in there.

As for GH, I still pop in and read daily, just don't post a whole lot.  I like it there and I think it will be around for a long time....it's just that many of the people I've gotten to know are here, which is why I am here.  I also think the age level here (and at GH) is more mature than RS and is the main reason I've really come to call this place "home".  

Chris (Berry), I think you have a great site and I think the personal approach (I like it that others actually know and remember my name, where I live, what I like) is what makes this site stand out.  You also have great mods.  They are always here to answer questions, point you in the right direction and what not.  I hope you achieve that level you are looking for and thanks again!!

Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 11, 2003, 08:51 PM
I think RS will have a couple of more pages of threads tonight relating to the action of the Mods over there and they action of removing threads relating to a moderator over there who has issues of control, me thinks.  Here is one of them:Whats going on here (http://http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000487)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on August 11, 2003, 10:00 PM
I want to thank Matt Carroll, Beth (jadesfire), and Tom (Darth Kenobi) for each reply you left for me. I really appreciate hearing these things and it shows me that we are doing this right.

I feel I should clarify a statement I made in my previous post.

"The BHC boards had failed (as they still do, very much so, even more these days)"

This comment was not directed toward the current Galactic Hunter forums, but towards to original, now RebelScum forums.

We will all keep plugging away. Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 11, 2003, 10:11 PM
I feel I should clarify a statement I made in my previous post.

"The BHC boards had failed (as they still do, very much so, even more these days)"

This comment was not directed toward the current Galactic Hunter forums, but towards the original, now RebelScum forums.

Thanks for clarifying that boss, as I assumed that was what you were getting at.  But just so there's no confusion here - the BHC forum title was one of the few things that Mike got to keep when he split from RS and re-emerged as GH.  So the GH forums are still called the BHC.  The RS forums are not.  I think they're just called "The Three-Ringed Circus" now...   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Diddly on August 11, 2003, 10:20 PM
I see that Darth Kenobi's Invasion has begun.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 11, 2003, 10:22 PM
I see that Darth Kenobi's Invasion has begun.

It has ended for  a little bit ( I think) ;D.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: TribesJedi on August 12, 2003, 12:49 AM
I joined Rebelscum a few months ago, and started posting a bit, to find that most people just ignored me most of the time, and a lot of the threads and replys there consisted of insults and one word replys, and other things. I went through a period where I stopped posting for a while, and just lurked there, but after all of the choas and flaming, and dissappearing thread of the last couple days, I decided to click the link to here that is in several rebelscum member's signatures. Just from reading this topic I can see how different the community here must be compared to Rebelscum. I hope to stay here for a while.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 12, 2003, 12:53 AM
TribesJedi welcome to the fourms.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: roguestormtrooper on August 12, 2003, 01:06 AM
Welcome TribesJedi! ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 12, 2003, 02:59 AM
I decided to click the link to here that is in several rebelscum member's signatures. Just from reading this topic I can see how different the community here must be compared to Rebelscum. I hope to stay here for a while.

Welcome to JediDefender TJ!  I'm sure you'll find the friendly and mature atmosphere around here to your liking!  Feel free to stop by our Newbies Forum (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=29) and introduce yourself to the whole gang if you'd like a real proper welcome!   ;)

So kick up your feet, relax, and enjoy!  Give us a shout if you've got any comments or questions about anything here at JD as well.  Looking forward to seeing you around the boards here...

- Matt

P.S.  Boy, Tom...  You really let 'em have it over there at RS tonight, didn't ya'?!  I wonder if Scott's started a new trend - Flash Thread Starting...   :P  Feel free to start a thread or two here as well!   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 12, 2003, 03:21 AM

P.S.  Boy, Tom...  You really let 'em have it over there at RS tonight, didn't ya'?!  I wonder if Scott's started a new trend - Flash Thread Starting...   :P  Feel free to start a thread or two here as well!   ;)

I will tomrrow once I get some sleep and see if I'm in trouble at the Scum of the Star Wars collecting community.  I think its funny that almost all of my threads are useless and post padding threads which are still open even through GNT is up and he hasn't closed any of them down except 2 and another 3 were closed by others out of 21 compare to Scott's post that were locked which were so much better then mine since I was in a rush to post them.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jimmy on August 12, 2003, 10:29 AM
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I prefer to make "friends" with someone based on moral principles rather than one based on which figures we really like

I have to truly agree w/ FG on this...
It's cool we all like the same toys but it's obvious we have that common ground w/ each other... or why the heck would even be here.

I know outside of the "SW" circle I choose friends based on their morals and beliefs. I make sure to disassociate myself w/ people that still have their caveman beliefs.
Granted I do have some "associates" that I know still think the "man in charge" is a great one, and that gays have no place on this planet... but again they are what I call close friends at all.

I have no tolerance for intolerant people. What's the saying... Ignorance is bliss...

I don't go out of my way to make friends... though anyone that knows me and is a friend knows I can be a great one (not pinning medals on my chest either). Some people are all about numbers...

Like Matt said above "quality or quantity"... Heed those words in all aspects of life... You (not anyone in particular) can keep your 100+ "friends"... I'll stick w/ my handful...

I think JD is a great place and do not think they should be driven into the ground like RS, but I think some stuff should be allowed to a ceratin extent.

I have always said religion, politics, and sports aren't supposed to be brought to the dinner table... but at the same time these are some things that show ones true colors in the end.

It's cool that I can be friends w/ the next guy based on our like for the new Hoth Luke, but if deep down inside he's some hateful bigot... then sorry I need not consider him a "friend"...


People try to wash my face w/ the fact I'm not "well" liked by people... but is that not quite obvious to him, her, and I?

I don't go out of my way to p*ss people off... I just stay Jimmy no matter who likes it or not. If I'm so bad for thinking and believing what I do... then so be it.
The day I have to conform in order to be liked by all is the day you might as well close the casket and say bye bye...

JD is a great place and I enjoy the talk and company of most here... but as newer people hop not sure I want to call them a "friend" based on the simple fact we both buy SW toys...
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: DrunkJedi on August 12, 2003, 10:36 AM
I joined RS not long ago, and now I'm here thanks to JediMAC  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 12, 2003, 11:52 AM
I joined RS not long ago, and now I'm here thanks to JediMAC  :)
Good to see ya.  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 12, 2003, 12:47 PM
I went by RS as usual last night, just to see what was going on, and I thought that whole "demonstration" was pretty lame. Once was kinda funny, twice was overkill.

I understand that a lot of people over here have ill-will towards RS, and I understand that a lot of you have ill-will towards certain moderators over there.

My question is....why keep going back? Why turn it into "Site wars"?

It sheds a bad light on THIS site IMHO.  See it through the eyes of someone who has never been over here. They'll think JD is just some tiny site with a beef against RS, and that's not the image you guys want, is it?

You guys are all really cool over here, so why go over there and start up and post in 85 different threads just for the sake of proving a point that the site needs better moderation. I think they know that. Or at least, I hope they do.

To me, this is like seeing one of my friends stalking his ex-girlfriend. Throwing eggs at her house because they broke up, and constantly talking trash about her.....and me still being friends with her.

You guys used to call that place home, and some of us (I for one) still enjoy hanging around there. I'd even like to see it improve, and maybe if they take action it will someday. I don't want to see them crash and burn just out of spite.

Still, if you guys are going around setting fires all over the place and then shouting "BOY, this place is burning down!!" it really doesn't make you any better than the people who are making it suck in the first place.


Sorry if this comes off as a lecture, but I just thought that was kind of lame to do that twice in a week.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jango Fettish on August 12, 2003, 12:56 PM
Well, Tom doesn't represent Jedi Defender's staff. He's a forum member,  so we should not and will not be held accountable for his actions elsewhere.

I think that what Scott did was a little extreme, but at the same time proves a damn good point. Their moderating blows, and it's just a brothel for post whores, not to mention grammar policemen. Hell, alot of Scott's threads were fine, and alot of fun to post in! I'd say his GNT trap worked, he got GNT to close threads that were merited in some way, for no reason, only to open some back again. GNT took the bait.

Then GNT is the one that dragged Jedi Defenders name into the whole thing, by accusing Brad and others of dishonest recruitment practices.
Besides, members at forums aren't exclusive property of RS.

Their moderating staff seems to be extremely incompetent, lazy, and a few of them have their occassional power trips, blaming the state of the forums on their own members which is straight up WRONG. Had they been doing their job, it wouldn't have deteriorated to what it is today.

It's a shame. CSW cared about their forum members. Guess we're just picking up where they were ran out.

..and trust me, no matter what anyone from any other website does, it doesn't make Rebelscum any worse than it already is.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on August 12, 2003, 01:06 PM
Josh, as I said at RebelScum, the recent problems have nothing to do with JediDefender. Darth Kenobi, doing what he did last night, did not represent JD in any way. He and I stated that in one of his threads.

When Old Cocky (OCB, Scott) posted his threads, it was to make an original point. Being around as long as he has at Scum, he has a right to do that type of thing because he is upset with everything that RebelScum has done to transform those once great forums into total crap.

Once again, this had nothing to do with JediDefender.

"They'll think JD is just some tiny site with a beef against RS"

I don't think this statement will be a problem with anyone, not to sound arrogant, but JD is not a tiny site by any means. Remember, not everyone who visits the site, visits the forums. We have many news breaks along with features that people come to the site for.

We hold our own ground against Scum and I am to the point where I feel, let people do what they want over there. The RebelScum administration has showed time and time again, they could care less about the forums, so if that is the case, do what you want over there. To prove a point, to be a post padder, whatever. They no longer concern me, my focus is to make THIS site better. I have given up on RebelScum and the OLD BHC forums. JediDefender.com is my focus and my site.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 12, 2003, 01:07 PM
I agree in general with what you said there Josh.  But like Chris, Cory (and Tom/Darth Kenobi) have already said - that was in individual acting on his own, and it wasn't a move that was endorsed by the crew here at JD at all.  I'd like to see things settle down between "us and them" as well, though I do feel that at least an official explanation or two is in order for some of the "unusual" occurrences over there of late (disappearing posts/threads).  I wound up wasting a lot of personal post typing time of my own over there...   :-\

But yeah, hopefully it all fizzles out soon and we can just get back to business here - talkin' Star Wars!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: blimpyboy on August 12, 2003, 01:08 PM
All the moderating issues aside, I like these forums for the simple reason that the orange text on the blue background is much easier for me to see.  Sometimes, it's the little things in life.  

But Rebelscum really needs a big reformation, mainly by repremanding moronic/inciting members, and by better moderating policies.  Doing that would go a long way, but if it's not done soon, they're going to lose a lot more people - permanantly.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 12, 2003, 01:27 PM
I joined RS not long ago, and now I'm here thanks to JediMAC  :)

Hey DJ, thanks for stopping by to check us out!  Normally, things are nice and mellow, but as you've already seen - we have a little bit of "drama" happening right now.  We hope to soon return you to your regularly scheduled JediDefender programming!   ;)

Hope you enjoy the site, and please give us a shout if you've got any questions, comments or concerns about ye' olde JD.  Looking forward to seeing you around the boards here...

- Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on August 12, 2003, 01:32 PM
Rebelscum is still a cool site,and I have no beef against it.That said,the moderation for that place could be better,i.e. warnings to stay on topic or the thread will be closed.That is why JD is such a cool place,moderation on moderation.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 12, 2003, 01:39 PM
OK, time to explain my actions so people don't need to keep saying what I was trying to do...In case you didn't get to read it at RS

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

First my beef with GNT...

SNIP
Since previous threads about this subject were closed, Let this serve as my official complaint about the moderating habits of Gregg the Wonder Mod

#1  One of my posts calling out Gregg for leaving me off of his buddy list after I had done the same to him was deleted.  Gone from sight...no reason was given to me, no PM sent, no e-mail explaining why.  I assume this was done by Wonder Mod.  This is a cardinal sin of moderating, especially since no explanation was given to me as to why this was done.

#2 If any of you were around the boards last Friday night you would have saw me post 35 threads in around an hours worth of time.  Many of these were locked because they were deemed to be "Post-padding" or "Spamming" by Wonder Mod.  

From the Rebelscum Forum Rules:

 
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Spamming: Refrain from posting the same thread over and over (even under slightly different names, or in different forums), from posting the same reply again and again, or even posting multiple times in a row on a thread.
I do not see a time limit as to where and when you can make posts.  Every post I made in that time frame was of substance, asking serious questions.  I see nothing wrong which violates the rules that the powers that be have laid out here.  I believe because of some personal vendetta against me, these threads were locked...and again no reason was ever given for as to why other than "Spamming" which as I just pointed out is not true and "post-padding" which again because they weren't one line questions or roll-eyes emoticons were not of the sort either

#3  Seems to me there is a double standard here as officially licensed threads by Gregg the Wonder Mod are allowed to continue...

Guees What It Is (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005864)
Guess Who It Is (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=007932)
Rebelscum Survivor (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=008658;p=39)

Where Wonder Mod can profoundly say..."Still Time to Vote" or "Not quite Right" 100 times a thread are allowed to continue...I guess as long as you are a moderator and it is a "game" it is OK to post pad to find out what CD a person just bought or why Bon Jovi is popular is not.

#4  Any threads or complaints put on this message board against the Wonder Mod are mysteriously deleted as was the case last Friday as was revealed to me by several people...
I would hope this thread will be left open for people to make their complaints known.  I am around the SW collecting community quite a lot and Wonder Mod's activites are not as peachy keen as you made them out to be here Jeremy...and I am not sure why you did not allow this discussion to continue

 http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=008658;p=39


Finally,

There either to be wholesale changes made to correct these issues or you will continue to lose members due to inadequate and improper moderating

I have been a member of this community pretty much since day one and have never seen it as bad as it has been in the last few months.  The site needs to take a long hard look at what is going on here and why many of the most long time members have left this site for other places.  It is a cess pool of bickering and pointless fighting which is a total reflection that shows what management here thinks or cares about the community they inherited by mistake.

Thanks for letting me state my case and I hope others are able to lodge their complaints as well before you lock this thread to see that there actually are more beefs with Gregg than what was given the other night.  And if that is not the case then so be it, I will accept your ruling and go on my way shaking my head in disgust

SNIP

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Second, I never in the farthest reaches of my mind thought this had anything at all to do with JediDefender.  If you notice I still am a member here, there and Galactic Hunter and generally like most of the people at all three places very much.  Like Josh says, if I was intent on bringing down the place I would be going about it a lot differently.  I do not want that impression at all and I think the staff will back me up and say again that this was not a site vs site sort of thing.  We all are all members there as well, we really do care about the place.

Third, my actions were my own and I have not orchestrated some conspiracy to do anything. The reasons are many: showing how inept Gregg is at moderating, bitch slapping the movement of posting drivel (this thread will be locked in, posting stupid pictures,commenting on every single topic with nothing, posting just :rolleyes:, GNT's sanctioned "games", pointing out how woefully understaffed they actually are, protesting the pointless threads that have been allowed to go on for months now, also having some fun with my rights as a poster there.  I hate what the place has become, and it has gotten worse, a lot worse in the past few weeks...this was my little wake up call to that effect, to the management, the moderation team and everyone else who posts there that there needs to be some house cleaning...moderators, members, attitudes in general

There are certain parts of the forums there I still care about, otherwise I would not go back.  I love taking part in toy discussions there because it is fun to help others out with information, get opinions on new things and since most everyone at all 3 sites I go to still interact there, it really is a melting pot of the SW community.

My suggestions...

Remove or Reprimand Dead Weight Moderators
Suspend indefinitely some of the more blatent rule busters and trolls
Hire more competent Moderators (I mean 2 times as many)
Show some respect for the members that are already there

It is a total mess right now and maybe one that will never change since I really don't think the powers that be really do care about the community at all.  Just my opinion like it or not.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 12, 2003, 01:52 PM
The only ties that I have to Jedi Defender is that I'm a member, I'm not staff or a moderator here and after last night I doubt I will.  I have been on those fourms a while now and have even welcomed people like Matt#1 (JediMAC), Chris Berry, and others who are on these fourms.  I was one of the originally members but lost my password and, eventually had to re-resisgter thus why I my member number is 768, I was lurking over at SSG when the great ISP cirisiss happened and followed a link by someone who lead to CSW.  Those fourms where the first online community that I have posted in and was my farovite place to go.  
What I did yesterday was something that I started out of stuipidity and angry that threads have disappered and other issues that have occoured over there since RS offically took over the fourms.  They (RS staff) have a antipost padding policy yet they encouraged GNT to post pad so that he can have 20,000 post and they created the Emperor postion for his "great" accomlishment.  If you were around in the old days you would see how great his post where exspecially the ones in the EZ Cheses thread where he eventually went to a mnod because someone posted 156 times in under a hour almost de thrown GNT for the top spot in that thread.  Then they made him a moderator after people said he would make a good one since he has so many post but he  has been taken over by the power he has closing people threads down (and keeping his open), being mean to members (Reloaded thread jumps to my mind) and the fact that threads against him have disappered from sight without a reason giving.
I have stated it before and will stated it again for the last time no one here at JD (beside me alonely fourm member) had anything to do with what happened last night.  I have been giving a warning and I'm on propation over at RS for the events of last night.  If I offened anyone here then I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Virex on August 12, 2003, 02:03 PM
A lot of you guys have already laid it down pretty well, and I don't want to be repetitive, so, if I could channel Jim Morrison for a bit, here's my philosophy:

"I don't know about you, man, but I want to get my kicks before this whole ****house goes up in flames."

I love you, Jim.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: DrunkJedi on August 12, 2003, 02:09 PM
I joined RS not long ago, and now I'm here thanks to JediMAC  :)

Hey DJ, thanks for stopping by to check us out!  Normally, things are nice and mellow, but as you've already seen - we have a little bit of "drama" happening right now.  We hope to soon return you to your regularly scheduled JediDefender programming!   ;)

Hope you enjoy the site, and please give us a shout if you've got any questions, comments or concerns about ye' olde JD.  Looking forward to seeing you around the boards here...

- Matt

Thanx for the welcome guys.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 12, 2003, 02:27 PM
Well, I appreciate everyone's replies to what I said, and believe it or not, I share a lot of the same views about the current state of the site over there.

The difference is....I want to try to do something to help it, rather than keep tearing it down.  Sure, I could spend my day causing trouble for the one or two mods they have left over there.....but that wouldn't really be productive.

So, I've just reporting posts like crazy, doing the best I can as a member to try and help clean it up.

My advice is if you aren't please with the place, try and be part of the solution by doing that.....not part of the problem by doing things to make it worse.

And when I called JD a "tiny site", I didn't mean it in a bad way. The fact that this place is cozy is one of the cool things about it.  It's just not really well known yet. Someday it will be, and when it gets to the point of being as big as RS or any of the others....I hope that it doesn't have to go through all this stuff too.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 12, 2003, 02:38 PM
Wow! I never knew we could say "****house"!  :o

Here's my piece...

First of all, thanks to Chris for giving us this oasis from trolls. I truly feel at home here, and I'm glad to be able to freely discuss collecting with you guys. You're a great bunch. Thanks to Scott for inviting me to JD. I think if you hadn't, I would have just stopped posting altogether.

I don't go to rebelscum anymore because not only do the boards take an eon to load for some reason, but it really has become a GiaNT crap-sandwich. I don't like dealing with people who don't have an ounce of respect, and people who make their post-count the defining factor of their life (cough...GNT...cough). I used to really like 'scum for a while after the BHC/'Scum merger. But it seemed like around Episode 2, it just started to slide.

Before that I belonged to the BHC forums and the old Yakface forums. Neither place felt as alien to me as the 'Scum forums have in the past six months or so. To be honest, I almost prefer the slower pace here, and there are hardly any transients, trolls or scam artists to deal with.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jimmy on August 12, 2003, 02:41 PM
It's been a sad state there for a long time...
Though the best thing to do is watch it crumble... and it will. I know some may feel an attachment to the forums being old CSW members... but I think some take it too personal. It's something many were a part but over time things eiter get better or fall apart... we obviously know what happened in this case. If they do fall apart though you pick up and move on... beating a dead horse is just that.


Unless you co-owned the forums w/ Mr. Sullenger then really it was just a place (like JD is) to hang out...
I know many won't go there but I'm not known to be Mr. Quiet... Mike is a big part of "CSW and the old school days" turning into the garbage it has. Michael had big dreams that his little merge would've really been for the best... even after some of us told him otherwise at Toy Fair 2002. But hey it was his thing to do as he wanted...
It just sucks that now he's gone off to do yet another thing and had to leave back a community which is now in shambles... To take it so personally though is really not worth it...


I was always amazed by the Scum zombies when I was there... Anyone that remembers my thread w/ Curto knows what I mean. For some people Rebelscum can do no wrong whatsoever... and that just amazes me.


I was banned twice for my opinions basically... yes I had my things w/ some members and even a mod there... but in the end it was because of my opinions (trolling to them) I was banned.


I've been in this game for quite some time now.I have been a member of the Trade Fed (once SWCU) for a good 5 years. There was a time we had people on the list that would take any leads and run w/ them on their own. I remember countless times where news I reported on on the mailing list would turn up on SGG, Scum, etc sometimes just mere hours later. Stuff like this has been happening for years but most people never knew...
It seems to be more in your face now though w/ the forums, etc. Beyond the forums the whole site thing is about more politics than any average reader would think... or believe. It's a cut throat world out there...
My point of all this is that there are "far more" important things to worry about for some than "some forums"...
Working the next big scoop or stabbing the next mans back is a much more important time consuming activity.


Though on the flip side the forums run array and they lose the loyal readship base... but hey who cares right?
At least we got the newest scoop ou there...


I do remember a time when Scum was a respectable site and one held in higher regard... I think that unless you have the zombie fever that is far from the case now.
I have heard many people discredit them and this thread shows a lot of resentment itself in their letting the forums disintegrate into thin air...

Really there's not much left you can do... You voiced your opinion and still it goes on... I think moving on is just the best anyone can do.


Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Nicklab on August 12, 2003, 03:21 PM
I've been going there for some time, but I've had it with the place.  I don't find it conducive to collecting to spend any time at the RS forums.  I can't remember when I found something worthwile there in helping me collect.  Oh, wait, it might've been a lin

Some of the folks there are just downright rude, or don't have any point to make whatsoever.  That, or some of the discussions get too involved and too heated.  Especially when some members there start seeking personal information about the people they're having discussions, arguments, or disagreements with.  That kind of activity is not only uncalled for, but troubling as well.  It's happened in my case, and should I hear of more of such activities, I will be forced to take some measure of action.  However, I've yet to see their mods do much of anything.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Famine on August 12, 2003, 07:26 PM
It was the Episode 2-bies that ruined forums.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 12, 2003, 08:56 PM
It was the Episode 2-bies that ruined forums.

Kevin
Well, the older members said that about the Episode 1-bies, as well. I remember it because I was one. I think it's unfair to throw everyone into a barrel like that, but I have to admit - it's somewhat true.

The problem with Rebelscum lies mainly in the fact that the moderators have no respect for anyone.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: MisterPL on August 13, 2003, 05:06 PM
I gotta get this off my chest.

Anyone with "JediDefender.com" in their signature is representing JediDefender, the site, and its forums, especially if you're including the word "Administrator." Think otherwise and you're kidding yourselves. Perception is reality, and the perception is that JD.com is sending its "troops" over to RS to stir things up.

You don't like Rebelscum, don't go there. The hypocrisy of a troll-free site whose staffers regularly insult another site's moderating team on their own turf is more than I can take.

I'm pretty sure that if a RS staffer started spamming Watto's Junk Yard with 30 or 40 new threads, knocking our established threads to the second or third page, some wouldn't be too thrilled about it. (Especially if he had "Visit Rebelscum.com!" in his sig.)

On the inside, this is a warm, cozy little place, a censored safe haven free from troll-friendly hot topics. On the outside it's a bunker, pitted from shots regularly traded back and forth between staff members and forumites. It's looking less like "Cheers" and more like a high school cafeteria. Like it or not, you're wearing the same varsity jackets, fellas. You're representing our school.

I'm not happy with the way the RS forums have deteriorated either. GNT aside, the moderating crew seems part-time at best, especially at Wuher's it would seem. Perhaps if a more seasoned crew were to offer their services, order could be restored. But then it's easier to be part of the problem than the solution.

I've tried to ignore this, but after spending some time reading what's being posted by those associated with JediDefender.com, I had to say my peace. The behavior of those affiliated with this site reflects poorly on ALL of us. We should be setting the bar, leading by example.

This forum needs to rise above itself before it dares compete with any others.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 13, 2003, 05:22 PM
John

Extremely well said, I took Jimmy's advice to heart and have left RS behind...It's not worth it to me to get worked up about and there are better ways to spend my time.  I've seen the light and your words ring all to true.  Thanks...

Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on August 13, 2003, 05:29 PM
I'm now going to say my piece.

I am going to speak for myself, and only myself right now. I express my feelings at RebelScum in a "less than conventional" manner these days, because they can't seem to get it through their heads that they have many problems, and do nothing to correct them. We have GNT running around doing whatever he wishes, newbies flooding the forums with worthless posts, some of the newer "regulars" post padding like there is no tommorrow. Does anything happen? Nope.

I feel a certain attachment to that board, for what it used to be at Collect Star Wars. IMO, the older members have a right to express their displeasure with the site and the administration, and this has already been done in the proper way. I suppose some would say, it was time to prove a point, and that point was proven.

Now, though I am over this, as I have stated in previous posts in this thread, and that I will no longer try to get the administration to see the light because JediDefender is what my focus is/should be. If RebelScum can't cut it, JediDefender will. I hate to see that board go down, but it has, and I can't do anything about it.

Up until recently, I have been very much against any of my staff doing some of the things that have taken place recently. A large number of my staff have been around for a long time, and as I said, I feel that it is acceptable for the older members to express their views in more extreme ways, if needed. Now that I look back at what has occured, yes, I do regret some things that took place, but I feel that it proved a point, if nothing else.

This fiasco is now over with the JediDefender team, our grievances have been vented, points proven. We can not salvage the old BHC forums. It is time to completely move on, 100%, JediDefender is the total focus.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jesse James on August 13, 2003, 06:07 PM
I pretty much act the same at Scum now as I have in the past...  Just in a lesser capacity.  I don't post nearly like I used to...  Topics I've seen posted, reposted, and reposted yet again just don't interest me anymore.

I mostly hit up Saga or the Customs to just check things out...  And of course I post a snippit and link of my reviews as they crop up here at JD.com to each of the "Major" sites as I see them (Scum, and GH.com).  I did work for Scum in the past, it's an ok staff to talk to...  Especially Mark and Dan.  Dan's actually someone I consider a "friend" and if you know me, you know I don't keep many friends around here.  Partly because Dan works for FFURG.com where I'm also a staff member.  He's a nice guy, and his intentions for the site are of the best nature.  He just offended some.

Scum's not what it once was in the forums though.  They let certain members post over and over about the same things.  Making fun of the handicapped and people they consider "beneath" them seems to be an AOK behavior over at Scum that I just simply feel is disgusting.  How can you be allowed to actually say a whole group of people (Oh, like say retail employees) are beneath you and are scum of the Earth, and NOT get banned?  Then to repeat it over and over (Or OTHER things about OTHER groups of people), and STILL not get banned just shows a lack of caring about your site and the content/people who are visiting or posted within.

Am I bashing Scum?  Maybe...  But to me it's a simple task of better moderation.  I remember Dax being the most level-headed guy, and cracking down on people (Even me) to "break it up".  He was always civil, and even would privately let me know his personal feelings on the "flame war" that he was separating...  I just wish that before the split they maybe would've done some cleaning house at the forums because a lot of the trouble makers weren't new.

Sure a few are...  Many weren't though.  

Scum is alright, and I still stop by daily, but I just don't have the desire to be involved in many of the topics, or to associate with many of the people.  And again it boils down to the lack of policing of the boards over there.

Around here it's not as necessary right now, as more show up I'm sure it will become more necessary.  

GH.com I hop into once in a while too, and it's pretty tame...  A couple people there who I regularly agree with and like to read their posts.  Oddly, Shabbyblue was a guy I USED to not always agree with, but now I find I do tend to have a similar opinion which is odd.  How things change and all...

Anyway, Scum's alright...  The traffic is it's greatest asset though, and their customs forums are the adopted FFURG.com forums, so I do like the traffic there and try to look in and see who's doing what.  That's a big part of my hobby though...

When I want to talk collecting though, I'm finding I like to read the posts here first and foremost.  And the general topics section here is definitely more tame and I feel it's 100% better to either GH.com or Scum at this point, and I hold GH.com in pretty high regard.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Famine on August 13, 2003, 07:55 PM
Online forums go bad. It cant be helped.

Take ol' InGenNet for instance...for you JP collectors, you'll know what I mean, and for those who dont try and follow along. InGenNet was THE place to be in the JP community, it had it all, collecting, movie discussion, artwork, all that grand stuff. Then the staff started to slack, and it went to hell. Its closed to this day, altho some one DID try and resurect it. I still have the dead link in my favorites as a memory.

Consider the Scum as you knew it the Golden Age of The Republic, and now its becoming...a must old narsty cantina...or...not.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 14, 2003, 02:23 PM
We have decided everything is out in the air, this thread is breeding no good will and pretty much everything has been said.  Point taken...hope things change over there for the better :)  And maybe I'll come back someday with a new outlook

So locked ;)
Title: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: HWR on February 21, 2004, 03:23 AM
This (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=013860) thread really deserves a link, this is great humor by Kneel Before Zod.

If anyone reaches it great then I'm proud of you, some achievement. Theres more important things to talk about other then post counts like "Tha Shizzolator" or "American Idol Reject Earns Instant Fame" instead of turning this thread and site into a "mine is bigger then yours" contest between members.
-quote GNT in a Rebel Scum thread.

-Henrik
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 21, 2004, 04:19 AM
Fortunately, we never joke (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=1952;start=msg38629#msg38629) about Greg(g), or his member, over here...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 21, 2004, 12:55 PM
or his member

I dont think anyone here wants to thing about GNT's "member". :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 21, 2004, 01:01 PM
Greg(g) was banned from GalacticHunter, was he not?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 21, 2004, 01:33 PM
That's a suprise,really,what for?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 21, 2004, 01:34 PM
GNT posted the following in the thread at 'scum:
Quote
Ok ok you've all had your fun.  

All I can do is roll my eyes like so...  since someone actually read something I posted and decided to make a thread about it  Woohoo!  

But seriously was there a need to actually start a thread on what was said? Surely you can all giggle and laugh in private without resorting to starting a thread on it. I think it's best to leave it at that and move on.

Oh and for the record I don't think a ruler or even a tape measure is big enough for my large post count


Then, Gregg decided his panties were in a bunch over the post and locked it down.

I must be neato to be able to lock a thread out of personal interest although members and mods both are having good clean fun with it.

Oh, to be a such legend!
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 21, 2004, 01:49 PM
That's a suprise, really, what for?

I would guess a few too many of these:


.



That's a really miniature tumbleweed, of course, or an armadillo - depending on who you ask...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 21, 2004, 02:03 PM
"I'm God, so live with it."[/size]-Greg(g), GNT
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/GNTSistine.jpg)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 21, 2004, 02:09 PM
LOL! ;D ;D ;D ;D

THAT IS SOOOO FUNNY!

Props to you and your Photoshop skills!
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 21, 2004, 02:12 PM
Poor GNT  :'(

Perhaps I'll delete all the evidence.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 21, 2004, 07:01 PM
Poor GNT  :'(

Perhaps I'll delete all the evidence.

I don't get it. What do you mean Rob? Why would you do that?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 21, 2004, 07:30 PM
Poor GNT  :'(

Perhaps I'll delete all the evidence.

Gregg brings it on himself Rob, so don't feel bad...  Besides, he's proven to be more than capable when it comes to deleting any evidence about anything that he's not a big fan of...   ;)

Nice work Brad.   8)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 21, 2004, 08:43 PM
I keep forgetting the “ ;)” in my posts…I don’t really feel too sorry for Gregg :)

But being a fellow Mod over there, I can’t make fun as much of GNT’s pun as other members have. I tried to strike the right balance in the reply I posted in KBZ’s thread.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 21, 2004, 10:59 PM
I keep forgetting the “ ;)” in my posts…I don’t really feel too sorry for Gregg :)

But being a fellow Mod over there, I can’t make fun as much of GNT’s pun as other members have. I tried to strike the right balance in the reply I posted in KBZ’s thread.

That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the clarification.

There are a lot of threads over there that get locked way before they've gone astray. I find it frustrating to be unable to add to or question a thread in a discussion forum[/b]. Similar to a strict household, there are a lot of things that just aren't available for discussion.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: HWR on February 22, 2004, 02:21 AM
Fortunately, we never joke (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=1952;start=msg38629#msg38629) about Greg(g), or his member, over here...

Hey, I wasn't joking about  GNT in that thread, I just posted pictures of the two cousins Gregg and Greg.

-Henrik
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Diddly on February 22, 2004, 02:28 AM
GNT is such a wuss. There was no need to lock that thread. We were laughing with him, not at him.

Wait...

Were we? :-\
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2004, 05:24 AM
Greg(g) Wrote:

Quote
Ok ok you've all had your fun.  

All I can do is roll my eyes like so...  since someone actually read something I posted and decided to make a thread about it  Woohoo!  

But seriously was there a need to actually start a thread on what was said? Surely you can all giggle and laugh in private without resorting to starting a thread on it. I think it's best to leave it at that and move on.

Oh and for the record I don't think a ruler or even a tape measure is big enough for my large post count

Wow, what a way to close that topic...

Everyone was LAUGHING, and having fun.  They were taking something he said, and the way he said it, and making a joke.

Yes, everyone can laugh in private, but what the hell's the point of laughing in private if you're not gonna share it with your friends?

Someone needs to get a grip over there...  I understand Philip wanting to stand by his staff.  It's admirable, and it's loyalty that can keep friendships tight as well, but even the other mods and admin there are making fun of him here and there now.

The bigger person would've participated and laughed in the thread too.  He doesn't even acknowledge the sexual overtones when he locks it.  He simply locked it because it was, for lack of any more fitting terms, was hurting his feelings.  He was quietly stewing that the topic was even going on for a while.  

I mean, he could've LEGITIMATELY closed the topic because the discussion matter goes against the stringent rules at Scum, so why not at least lie to save some face?  Instead he just closes it like a hall monitor that just caught his feared bullies skipping class.  

How sad.

EDIT:

By the way, he even overuses the graemlins and especially the "roll eyes" one in his rebuttle, in the absolute truest GNT overexaggerated fashion.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 22, 2004, 07:36 AM
I see that KBZ now has it (the pun) in his RS signature :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 22, 2004, 12:18 PM
Ill laugh when Gregg goes on a tyrannical banning spree.

:-*

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: P'dubs on February 22, 2004, 01:00 PM
I banned them, banned them all like animals, and not just the men, but the women and children too.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Sems Fir on February 22, 2004, 02:00 PM
(http://collectibles.echostation.com/prototypes/proof/GNTb.jpg)


Robert
NOOMIVARR SECTOR
BLACK S. U. N.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2004, 05:13 PM
I'm surprised he isn't passing that off as the next hot collectible, or maybe a new E3 character.  :)

Maybe it's a set piece from a film studio he raided even?  Perhaps a Tumbleweed even?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 22, 2004, 06:27 PM
You guys are ALL going to get sued.

 ;D
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 22, 2004, 06:38 PM
Because that's really his long lost Uncle Greagg,who appeared on the unaired CBS surviovor Texas.That picture is the property of CBS,and he'll see you in court!
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 22, 2004, 07:03 PM
Not only that, but editing a picture that someone has posted on the internet for the whole world to see has GOT to be a law.

At least in Australia.  :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Durge on February 22, 2004, 07:12 PM
Finally, a place where we can speak our minds about GNT and not get the thread locked! I wonder if he's seen this yet.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 22, 2004, 07:23 PM
Quote
Posted by: Durge  Posted:
Finally, a place where we can speak our minds about GNT and not get the thread locked! I wonder if he's seen this yet.  

He probally has seen it but can't do a thing about it since he has  no control over here to lock or move topics like he does at RS.  I have to wonder who removed your topic asking him why he did that whole stuipid thing with the "." over a GH that you posted over at the Scum and what the reasoning behind it being removed since from what I saw of it was just asking a simple question on his action.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 22, 2004, 07:31 PM
Quote
Posted by: Durge  Posted:
Finally, a place where we can speak our minds about GNT and not get the thread locked! I wonder if he's seen this yet.  

He probally has seen it but can't do a thing about it since he has  no control over here to lock or move topics like he does at RS.  I have to wonder who removed your topic asking him why he did that whole stuipid thing with the "." over a GH that you posted over at the Scum and what the reasoning behind it being removed since from what I saw of it was just asking a simple question on his action.

Amen.

With as much time as Gregg spends at 'scum I believe he spends a fair amount reading other sites as well. He certainly quotes and acknowledges GH enough that I'm sure he is over there a bit.

Further, I he's makin' a list, and checkin' it twice - he's gonna find out who's naughty and nice... And then lock out those who don't tow his line.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 22, 2004, 07:43 PM
Quote
Finally, a place where we can speak our minds about GNT and not get the thread locked! I wonder if he's seen this yet.

Well folks, it's an interesting topic, but it should be noted that when Gregg was upset about his picture being up over here at JD, the staff here did take it down for him. I'm sure if this thread continues to get nastier, I would assume that the staff here would probably not let it get out of control either. Fun is one thing, but mean-spirit is another.

A thread making fun of or "calling out" GNT or any other member is going to get locked over there, unless that person is ok with it and wants it left alone, which I dont' think was the case.

I'm sure if most of you had a thread started about you for something stupid you did, and a bunch of people piling on, you'd want it locked up too.

 :)

As much fun as it is to poke some fun at the guy from time to time, he definitely gets more than his share. For post padding, for the whole "Gregg vs. Greg" incident and the pictures he tried so hard to explain away, I'd say he's probably had enough teasing for 10 members put together.

I'm not saying he doesn't bring a lot of it on himself, and I know I've teased him many a time myself in the spirit of fun.

I'm just saying that he gets a lot of crap, and deserves protection from threads about him as much as anyone else does.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 22, 2004, 09:00 PM
Well,that does bring up a good point.

GNT,while an inept mod,in my experience has been pretty kind.Sure,he does bring on a certain amount of things apon himself,he dosen't deserve to be hated.

However,I have to wonder if there is something I've missed,so action taken by gregg to make him so hated other than post padding or being the worst mod ever.

FYI,a GNT is registered at this site.So he is wachting.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2004, 09:03 PM
I agree, and I actually had no problem with GNT up till he started to annoy even myself with thread locking, thread moving, etc...  That's been just within the last few months really that I've "had my fill", so to speak.

Things won't get too out of hand here, but there are two keys here that I see.

1) "He brings it on himself".  That he does...  I was willing to let him prove himself, and sadly he did, but he proved that he wasn't going to shy away from his past too much.  Even if he were a 50/50 mod over with you guys Josh, I'd be more forgiving personally.  Sadly, he's a below 50/50 mod at best I think.  To most of us who DO frequent over there, that's disconcerting that he's still a mod at all.

2) His actual level of power there allows any criticism to be curbed immediately.  Criticism he deserves, and MAYBE could learn from as someone in authority, but criticism he chooses to simply cease because he doesn't like to be crossed.

That's pretty BS to me...  I think that's why people are venting here and not much is being said otherwise.  I mean, even some of your staff see the same issue we do, so there's a problem I think.

And on a side note regarding Scum, Josh, and myself:   I apologize for you having to step in on that thread about Editing over there Josh, but I think my words ring true there.  I think you agree with me even.  Hell, GNT agreed with me on the topic too I believe...  His point was pretty valid too.  That topic went off-topic from the start though, sadly, when nobody would answer Durge seriously, but just sarcastically with one-line posts and a  ::) graemlin.  Typical.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Durge on February 22, 2004, 09:15 PM
 That topic went off-topic from the start though, sadly, when nobody would answer Durge seriously, but just sarcastically with one-line posts and a  ::) graemlin.  Typical.


Sad, but true.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 22, 2004, 09:17 PM

And on a side note regarding Scum, Josh, and myself:   I apologize for you having to step in on that thread about Editing over there Josh, but I think my words ring true there.  I think you agree with me even.  Hell, GNT agreed with me on the topic too I believe...  His point was pretty valid too.  That topic went off-topic from the start though, sadly, when nobody would answer Durge seriously, but just sarcastically with one-line posts and a  ::) graemlin.  Typical.

I thought I answered Durge seriously in that thread.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 22, 2004, 09:23 PM
He dosen't mean every reply.

Though,I did say who cares.Just I justified it by explaining.Durge,you did get some awnser to your question,right?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2004, 10:53 PM
Yeah, you did Dean...  A couple did actually, including myself, Josh, GNT, you, Vator...  

A TON of others turned it into a series of "Who cares?" posts and "I'll second that", "I'll third that", etc...

Now, some of the people who posted weren't BAD posters in general over there by any stretch.  KBZ was one who said that I believe, and KBZ generally is a productive person.  I think Dressel maybe said "Who cares" or something like that and he tends to not post wastefully.

Sadly though, some of the participants were people who DON'T participate, and I think posting "who cares" is silly because obviously Durge did, and obviously so did a few others.  It was a valid topic.

My remarks were, mostly, aimed at those who habitually post uselessly.  IE: Kids, idiots, etc...  The point struck a nerve with one particular 14 year old over there, and subsequently got him on me to the point Josh had to step in (This is all for the people oblivious to what I'm talking about).

And I see Josh closed the topic down actually now...

I don't want this to go off-topic, I just saw Josh participating here and wanted to make sure he knew I was sorry.

The topic was even one GNT posted in responsibly actually!  :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 22, 2004, 11:07 PM
Special thanks to Henrik for keeping the thread/joke alive - the minute I posted that I knew GNT would bring down the Iron Fist of moderation as soon as he saw it....too bad the guy can't take a frickin' joke...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 23, 2004, 12:52 AM
Boy, good thing I didn't say anything deragatory about Greg(g) in that thread...   :P
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 23, 2004, 01:30 AM
He's gonna hate you as much as Scott in another two or three posts. :)

Let him though.  He needs to accept that his behavior's gonna breed contempt from many.  That's the one thing I disagree with when posts critcizing him are canned.  He's not LEARNING anything from those posts, just simply closing them and playing it off like it never happened.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 23, 2004, 10:12 AM
Well, as sure as the sun does shine, I just recieved this message from Gregg:



Kneel Before Zod,

Joke or no joke I don't wish to have what I said posted from that thread in your signature any longer, while not as bad as previous quotes used I don't wish to have what I posted used as signature fodder. I'd rather contact you first to change it rather then having your signature blocked altogether which I don't want to do. So if you could remove the quote that would be very appreciated.


quote:
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Signatures may not make fun of other forum members. Examples of this would include quoting a member, including something somebody said about a member, or linking to a forum thread or post that may not have been a members most proud moment.

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So the quote has been added to my signiture here - I hope that doesn't break any rules.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 23, 2004, 10:22 AM
My signature a while back was mysteriously altered by the powers that be there, Greg(g) told me once that all I do is go into threads and complain and then leave, ZING!

My two biggest beefs with him is the fact that any little thing is said against him and he tattles and locks or deletes threads

The other is the fact that people can only post in threads that he starts on a given subject, any new thread is locked and you are forced to talk in his.  However, if you start a thread and duplicates start popping up they are allowed to continue.  Especially when your truly is the thread starter.  I found that starting said threads was an effective way to keep him strangely silent.  Which in my book is a good thing :P
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 23, 2004, 10:34 AM
Does he ever come around here?  Or does he avoid it because these posts aren't linked to his RS post count?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 23, 2004, 10:37 AM
He's registered here, he read the original picture thread and threatened legal action

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=viewprofile;user=GNT

Because most of his favorite people post here he has wisely avoided posting, I will say that a large part of our community was actually built on that fact alone :P
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 23, 2004, 11:49 AM
I will say that a large part of our community was actually built on that fact alone :P

It's what has me here today.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 23, 2004, 11:53 AM
Yeah, I recall his pics being what drug him here and made him finally say something.  It was amusing unto itself to see him come out of the shadows to speak only to say "Stop it or I'll sue you".

Here's a funny post over at Scum from a guy that works with me over at FFURG doing chat moderator stuff...  

http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000676

Justin (Jediraven) is generally in a sullen mood, kind of how Brad would pee on everyone's thread, but I think Justin's generally this angry.  :)  Gotta love the guy sometimes just because he's so blunt.

"Thanks, God!" pretty much made me laugh out loud when I read it.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 23, 2004, 03:52 PM
Well, as sure as the sun does shine, I just recieved this message from Gregg:



Kneel Before Zod,

Joke or no joke I don't wish to have what I said posted from that thread in your signature any longer, while not as bad as previous quotes used I don't wish to have what I posted used as signature fodder. I'd rather contact you first to change it rather then having your signature blocked altogether which I don't want to do. So if you could remove the quote that would be very appreciated.


quote:
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Signatures may not make fun of other forum members. Examples of this would include quoting a member, including something somebody said about a member, or linking to a forum thread or post that may not have been a members most proud moment.

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So the quote has been added to my signiture here - I hope that doesn't break any rules.

I find it funny that he complins when it is his qoute in the sig line but, as far as I know doesn't do anything to those sig lines of others on the board that qoute other members.  I been in the WandP thread from time to time and have seen it there where both sides use each other's qoutes on their sig lines.  I can't find alot of it now but know a few people have qoutes about other members at the fourms there.  Once again we see that Greg(g) is god. ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 23, 2004, 04:14 PM
a large part of our community was actually built on that fact alone :P
True,but it wasn't just GNT.It was the entire meltdown of 'Scum last summer.I'd say it was about four or five ''pioneers'' that advertised JD as being the utopian site.And that's what drew me here,away from the ''Third Riech of Rebelscum'',even though they showed more Stalinistic tactics than anything.
GNT,however,along with Philip and some other mods were the main culprtus of the degeneration.You know now that I think about it it was alot like a authoritarian take over.Lets look at it:
Social upheaval:EP2 influx,GH exodus,numerous trolls,and a down fall in overall quality.
Result:RS became a police state,with numerous mods and spies for mods.Unknowing(or uncaring)masses followed these new rules.Posts were censored and therefore the mods began to control thought.Many were banned,many were threatend.
So,if RS was indeed a authoritarian goverment(lets just say the USSR for reference,even thouugh the preamble was not the same for Stalins rise),GNT would be the equvalent of the NEP(that was the secrect police in Stalinist Russia?)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 23, 2004, 04:53 PM
I find it funny that he complins when it is his qoute in the sig line but, as far as I know doesn't do anything to those sig lines of others on the board that qoute other members.  I been in the WandP thread from time to time and have seen it there where both sides use each other's qoutes on their sig lines.  I can't find alot of it now but know a few people have qoutes about other members at the fourms there.  Once again we see that Greg(g) is god. ::)

Yep, because most of the people in WAP know how to take a joke.  Gregg just brings it down harder on himself with his constant whining and moderating...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: jjks on February 23, 2004, 06:03 PM
Phillip sent me a rather nasty email threatening toban me back when I had  a GNT quote as my sig. If he is lacking in common sense to make comments like he does, I don't understand why we can't make light of it in our sigs. Perks of being the all knowing Mod I suppose.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darby on February 23, 2004, 07:29 PM
I know the general nonsense revolving around 'Scum last year is what sent me here, and I'm glad, because here you have intelligent conversation.  You rarely do there.  It's sort of like a classroom run by one of the kids.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 23, 2004, 08:34 PM
Isnt there a petition to have him de-modded?

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 23, 2004, 11:33 PM
Isnt there a petition to have him de-modded?

Kevin
    I don't know of any petition to have him de-modded over there.  If there was one I would defently sign it in a heartbeat.  I think that it would be hard to get such an petition on the site since alot of people who are there now don't know the GNT of a few years ago (the old CSW days of the fourms).  At that time he was a post padder who ended up getting a thread closed, EZ Cheese (which lead to the EZ CHeese icon at the Scum), because another fourm member had posted in that thread about 250 times in a 1/2 hour time period.  This gived this person the chance to de-thrown GNT (who setup a game in the thread of giving different titles to people who post most in this thread).  GNT was of course King but he felt threaten by this other poster and went and complined to a Mod about the other poster's actions, even through GNT did the samething but in a different time period.
    There are many other things that he has done since he became Emperor (a truibite to his post padding, which I thought wasn't something to be celebrated at Scum) and then becuase of his high post count the younger people wanted him to be a mod since he had a lot of time on his hand it seemed.  Many of us seen him take this power of being a Mod to close threads which came after his thread which is just a copy of a news article, give stuipid comments like the coins and the Cloud Car Pilot, and many more examples of his ego.  
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 24, 2004, 01:23 AM
CorranHorn (Jason) Just brought it to my attention too, about that thread I'd mentioned earlier about "Edit Etiquette".

The guy who was "fighting" with me in t hat thread (Dutch Cattle) decided to quote me in his signature.  He didn't really even make much sense of his use of my words.  It isn't insulting to me that I can tell, as I think the quote was funny personally, but he did it to spite me nonetheless because he simply doesn't like me.

Now, no mods are stepping up to my defense on that signature...  Not that I mind even.  I don't care.  It's not a big deal...  But Jason made a good point that if GNT is gonna cry about being quoted then why aren't I being defended from "attack" by such idiots over there?  

It's obvious that it's deemed not important enough by the mods to bother with (against the rules or not) and that's fine since it doesn't bother me, but it just reinforces the point that GNT really was just CRYING to KBZ when he made him remove his signature quoting ole Greg over there.

That's so silly and juvenile...  I'm dealing with it, and so could GNT.  I'll be damned if I'd go crying to some schmuck who decided to quote me in his sig, and give them the satisfaction of knowing they actually WERE bothersome to me.  
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2004, 01:44 AM
You guys are almost acting as if this "GNT throws a hissy about being quoted in someone's sig" thing is some kind of new phenomenon.

No--this same type of sh!t happened last summer/fall, when at least three other people (myself, jjks, and OCB) had (mostly) harmless Gregggggg quotes in their sigs.  

Of course, since he spends more time posting than actually reading, it took him a while to catch on, but as soon as he did, the PM's and threats of "total signature removal" started.

Just like the GH thing with him--he feels like he's getting picked on (which he is, but which he also deserves), but rather than being cool about it and playing along, he chooses to take his ball and go home.  Which, of course, is just a feeding frenzy.

Personally, I have no problem with someone else quoting me in their sigs (and vice versa), but it's more than obvious that Greggggggg is incredibly sensitive about anything said about him--you get the feeling that he knows he sucks, but just doesn't want anyone else to "know" it.

It'll never happen, but he should really take a break from the internet for a year or two to grow up--drink some beer, bang some guys girls, and get into some trouble, like the 18-year-olds are supposed to do.  Like I said, no chance of that happening--no chance of him maturing or becoming "cool" or anything--but he should.

In related news, I got an e-mail from his mom, and even she doesn't like him.

But I love him.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 01:56 AM
In related news, I got an e-mail from his mom, and even she doesn't like him.

You know Vicki too?!   8)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2004, 02:07 AM
In related news, I got an e-mail from his mom, and even she doesn't like him.

You know Vicki too?!   8)

Know her?  

Let's just say. . .  I'm her baby daddy.

(http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/images/smilies/naughty.gif)

Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darby on February 24, 2004, 02:24 AM
 :o
 ;)

You can see some Greg stylin' going on over in the Fan's Choice #6 poll at Scum right now.  Good lord.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: CorranHorn on February 24, 2004, 02:36 AM
GNT's biggest problem that I've seen is he often types before realizing what he's about to type. He's had many instances where he's clearly said something that he obviously had no clue about and when he's been corrected in a calm manner by someone else, he doesn't retract his previous statements, he will most times just ignore the correction and continue on talking as if what he said is the gospel. This has often translated to the many situations where he will lock threads cause he's been outted as being wrong. I think he just needs to accept that he can be wrong and just let it all wash over in a non-confrontive manner, if he does he'll be a better mod and a better person for it. If not, he's going to keep getting the same hassles he constantly gets because he deserves them....
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: MisterPL on February 24, 2004, 11:04 AM
The bottom line seems to be that Gregg is ineffective as a moderator, if only because he comes off as a hypocrite and therefore commands little if any respect from the membership.

I supported GNT's nomination as a mod mostly because of his even temper and his omnipresence on the board; two things RS was in dire need of at the time.

Now it is clear that he can only influence members through force rather than true leadership. It's time for a recall. I just hope that when Gregg does leave his mod position, he doesn't run around editing his old posts with "." like he did at GH.

The boy's got some growin' up to do.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 11:14 AM
:o
 ;)

You can see some Greg stylin' going on over in the Fan's Choice #6 poll at Scum right now.  Good lord.

The best thing about that thread is where Pickles slams him over telling people not to post the scores more than once per page.

Which is even funnier, because Greg's warning came about 9 posts after I requested the same thing - I guess his word carries more weight... ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 24, 2004, 11:22 AM
Of course...  He's God and all.

The best you can hope for's Jesus at this point, and to merely speak for the omnipotent one only as an amplifier.  Spreading the gospel of ignorance.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 11:51 AM

It's time for a recall.

I second that.

 I wonder how one would go about asking for a Mod to step down and what amount of the general members you would need to support this effort.  I know people asked for Kidd to be dropped as a Moderator when his power trip started to happen a year or two back and the staff removed him or he stepped down.  Maybe someone should start a petition asking to have the staff to remove him or for Greg(g) to step down and give up his powers.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 12:03 PM
Phillip sent me a rather nasty email threatening toban me back when I had  a GNT quote as my sig.

Scott and I both got our warnings of being banned this morning from Philip as well, for harrassing the little clown Greg(g)...   ::)

Know her?  

Let's just say. . .  I'm her baby daddy.

You're her baby's daddy?!?   :o  You're GNT's dad?!?  Holy $h!t!!!   :o  Why would you claim responsibility for that, ya' big dumbass?!   :-X
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: MisterPL on February 24, 2004, 12:09 PM
Kidd was going WAY over the line from the start. Gregg seems to ebb and flow with his power trips.

Still, if a substantial number of members call for his removal and give good reasons behind it, the administration has to take note. It certainly wouldn't be the first time.

Maybe someone should start a thread in the Feedback forum calling for members fed up with Gregg to address their concerns there as well as by e-mailing Philip.

Call it a vote of no confidence.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 12:13 PM
Phillip sent me a rather nasty email threatening toban me back when I had  a GNT quote as my sig.

Scott and I both got our warnings of being banned this morning from Philip as well, for harrassing the little clown Greg(g)...   ::)


What does Greg(g) have on Phillip to control him over there.  If you talk about Greg(g) then you are harrasing you but he can do whatever he wants and doesn't lose any of his moderation rights.  I'm about ready to type up that petition asking for Greg(g) to either be removed or step down.  All I need now is specific examples of his abuse of powers and people who would be supportive to this move and sign without fearing they will be banned at RS.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: smileyfaceguy on February 24, 2004, 12:31 PM
 8)(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/thumbup.gif)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 01:09 PM
Phillip sent me a rather nasty email threatening toban me back when I had  a GNT quote as my sig.

Scott and I both got our warnings of being banned this morning from Philip as well, for harrassing the little clown Greg(g)...   ::)


What does Greg(g) have on Phillip to control him over there.  If you talk about Greg(g) then you are harrasing you but he can do whatever he wants and doesn't lose any of his moderation rights.  I'm about ready to type up that petition asking for Greg(g) to either be removed or step down.  All I need now is specific examples of his abuse of powers and people who would be supportive to this move and sign without fearing they will be banned at RS.

Do it!

And post it in the suggestions and feeback forum...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 01:31 PM
Petition is up for now. Petition (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=013898)
If you want to add you name and don't live in fear of being ban sign it. :)
Let's see how long it last.  I'm going to check it out once I get back from school.  I figure its going to be closed by the time I get home.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 24, 2004, 02:00 PM
You should have gotten an actual petition, not simply a thread saying 'Post here'... First off, you've already gotten a bunch of random comments from people who aren't interested in 'saving' RS; secondly, a lot of us have already been banned from RS, thus we're unable to post our 'signatures'.

I don't really care what happens to RS. Philip Wise doesn't give a damn about RS either, it seems.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Mikey D on February 24, 2004, 02:29 PM
And its already closed.

I particularly like Greg(g)'s creative use of  acronyms   ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 24, 2004, 02:44 PM
Actually it’s only been moved the Suggestions section.

I would STRONGLY advise reading the post by Josh before adding anything to the thread.

This is all pretty lame…hounding out an unpaid person. Who’s going to want the job in future after all this?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2004, 02:52 PM
Do you get hounded on Rob, does any other mod get hounded on, his ineptitude is costing RS members I don't see why people don't see that over there
Title: Who moderates the moderators?
Post by: MisterPL on February 24, 2004, 03:08 PM
This is all pretty lame…hounding out an unpaid person.

Are you referring to GNT or us?

Gregg's taking things way too seriously over there. From what I can tell, it's a classic example of a power trip; following the letter of the law rather than its spirit.

It's a discussion board for toys, not a debate club. Gregg's acting like a hall monitor, not a moderator. It was a mistake to put someone who's life obviously revolves around the board in a position of power. He's taking everything personally and refuses to admit when he's made mistakes.

Honestly, if he does get ousted, I hope Philip's got a good backup. I certainly wouldn't put it past Gregg to start editing his old threads out of spite. He's done it before.

On one hand, I feel sorry for him if only because he's just not mature enough to handle the responsibility. Unfortunately, he's never commanded the kind of respect other mods have PRIOR to taking on their positions. At most, he was a board mascot.

Gregg needs to hone his socialization skills a lot more, as well as put his money where his mouth is when it comes to post counts. If post counts REALLY aren't such an issue at RS, then Philip should just get rid of them altogether. If that's not possible, Gregg should retire "Bounty Hunter GNT" and start fresh under a new name and post count.

But that would be setting an example, that would show leadership. So far the only lasting examples he's left behind are a padded post count,  several petty thread closings, and a demonstrated inability to be the slightest bit humble.

Gregg's the one that needs moderation. Still.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 24, 2004, 03:12 PM
Do you get hounded on Rob, does any other mod get hounded on,
Not at the moment, but if I start making a few mistakes, of Heaven forbid, expressing a few opinions, who knows? If I were Philip, I might feel a bit backed into a corner over all this.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 03:19 PM
You should have gotten an actual petition, not simply a thread saying 'Post here'... First off, you've already gotten a bunch of random comments from people who aren't interested in 'saving' RS; secondly, a lot of us have already been banned from RS, thus we're unable to post our 'signatures'.

I don't really care what happens to RS. Philip Wise doesn't give a damn about RS either, it seems.

Sorry about that I was in a rush at the time.  If anyone has a good petition site LMK so I can start one up and paste it in the thead.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 03:19 PM
Petition is up for now. Petition (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=013898)
If you want to add you name and don't live in fear of being ban sign it. :)
Let's see how long it last.

About as long as I expected.  Don't live in fear of being banned?  I know I would've the moment I typed the letter "M" in that thread.  Several threads I'm interested in commenting on over there, but if I did, it'd likely be my last comment there.

..a lot of us have already been banned from RS, thus we're unable to post our 'signatures'.

Or soon will be.  I'm just curious if the other 100+ RS members that are also currently bashing the crap out of GNT over there have gotten banning notices from Philip too, or if it was just Scott and I...  Pretty sure I already know the answer to that though.

I particularly like Greg(g)'s creative use of  acronyms

What, you mean this "BOTC" (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=008459;p=1#000001) nonsense?!   ::)  What a clown.  I'm sure he's trying to get another saying of his to become "the norm" - like Thoughts?  Hopefully he realizes that most of the time people write Thoughts? it's just to mock him.   :P  Actually, what Greg(g)'s doing there is just trying to keep the two lines straight in his head, since he was having some serious confusion (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000624;p=1#000003) about them before.  Even Dustin had to holler at him (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000624;p=1#000007) that he was flat-out wrong about it and to stop his yappin'...   8)

Greg(g), I know that you're reading this thread (and that it's driving you insane that you can't edit/delete/hide it).  You have an open account (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=;action=viewprofile;user=GNT) here at JD, so please feel free to defend yourself if you'd like.  Please, let us know your...

Thoughts?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 03:21 PM
This is all pretty lame…hounding out an unpaid person. Who’s going to want the job in future after all this?

Rob, the point is that none of the other mods there are getting hounded like this.  Just Greg(g) for the most part, and there's a very obvious reason for that, and the big problem is that that reason is being completely overlooked...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 24, 2004, 03:25 PM
Quote
Do you get hounded on Rob, does any other mod get hounded on, his ineptitude is costing RS members I don't see why people don't see that over there

I do. All the time. Some people say I'm a "horrible mod" for this or that. I mean, granted....I don't think a topic about me would sustain 5 or 10 pages of interested replies....but I definitely have my "haters".  I think the big difference is, I respond to those critics and even encourage them to work it out with me in PM. I REALLY don't want to let a stupid title on a Star Wars board make me an a-hole to anyone.


I appealed to Rob to move that to the feedback section (where it belongs) and I also asked that people post REASONS in there...rather than just "GNT should burn in hell" kind of posts. Maybe he's overzealous in some ways, but doesn't everyone deserve the chance to know WHY they're hated?  


I also find it odd that we're all RS members discussing this RS topic over here, but I guess if this is where it's happening, so be it.   ;D
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Mikey D on February 24, 2004, 03:29 PM
Exactly, Matt.  I only glanced at the "confusion" link you provided but after one or two Gregg posts, I knew I couldn't take the rambling and just closed it.  The whole OTC thing isn't that hard to figure out, its not quantum physics for Christ sakes.

I'm sure once he wakes up, which should be soon as its 6:30 am down under, he'll have some well thought out rebuttal.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 03:32 PM
Petition is up for now. Petition (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=013898)
If you want to add you name and don't live in fear of being ban sign it. :)
Let's see how long it last.

About as long as I expected.  Don't live in fear of being banned?  I know I would've the moment I typed the letter "M" in that thread.  Several threads I'm interested in commenting on over there, but if I did, it'd likely be my last comment there.


I have a feeling that this will be another nail in my coffin over there since I posted all of those threads a few months ago which got me a warning from Jermey.  As for the thread I will try to get examples of Greg(g)'s problems (so if any of you guys have any let me know  ;)) and post them in there to let others know.  
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 03:32 PM
I'm sure once he wakes up, which should be soon as its 6:30 am down under, he'll have some well thought out rebuttal.

Yes, but it will most likely be made to Philip, and not posted in that thread.   ;)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2004, 03:36 PM
I think both of you guys do excellent jobs being a moderator and I give much more kudos than you think, I realize the immensity of the site and its traffic make it an impossible job.  This is something we don't have to deal with at all, that is either a testament to our members or the fact that our site is rather homey in nature.  The problem with the site IMO is that things have festered for so long that it is just complete and total anarchy right now.  Does Phil really think by banning Matt and me that his problems will be solved and he'll have a better community because of it, that is complete and utter BS.  People hated Sonic Death (RIP), in fact people cheered when he was banned, I think more people hate GNT...and to reiterate since I cannot publicly criticize him anymore, my Thoughts on his poor moderating are clearly laid out on page three of this thread
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Mikey D on February 24, 2004, 03:37 PM
I'm sure once he wakes up, which should be soon as its 6:30 am down under, he'll have some well thought out rebuttal.

Yes, but it will most likely be made to Philip, and not posted in that thread.   ;)

Then I guess I can expect a warning to be forthcoming.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 04:15 PM
The drama's a heatin' up eh?

Even if he isn't de-modded, which he probably won't be - At very least maybe GNT will take all this trashing to heart and try to tone it down a bit - or ideally, tone it down a lot.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 24, 2004, 04:19 PM
Quote
Even if he isn't de-modded, which he probably won't be - At very least maybe GNT will take all this trashing to heart and try to tone it down a bit - or ideally, tone it down a lot.  

If it were a thread about me, I would.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: smileyfaceguy on February 24, 2004, 04:20 PM
whatever happens, i think this is the most successful thread henrik wulff rasmussen ever started.

 :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2004, 04:32 PM
whatever happens, i think this is the most successful thread henrik wulff rasmussen ever started.

 :)
Bzzzzzt (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=009166)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 24, 2004, 04:43 PM
Best...S.F.G....post...ever  :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: jadesfire on February 24, 2004, 05:05 PM
All I can say is (besides that I have a lot of time on my hands right now) is that I am EXTREMELY happy that none of this stuff happens (and not much gets locked down) in the props forum at RS because it's the only place left (I think) that actually can hold decent conversations in threads about the actual catagory.  

That was extremely long sentence...whew.

I also don't think much will change with the problem of Greg/Gregg/GNT/God (or whatever his name is at RS ) because the membership has changed so much and he seems to truly believe that what he bans/locks/deletes is in the best interest of the forums.
Every once in a blue moon I surf all the forums and many of the threads at RS and thank our own CB that he created this place and that I can find all the answers to questions I have and the commradery of good friends.

I wonder if the bar is still open...after this long winded speech, I need a drink.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2004, 05:11 PM
Hey look, some one took my idea and is calling for the fall of GNT.

Im game. For too long have I lurked there and seen his underhanded police moderating.

"I'm God, so deal with it."


Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jeff on February 24, 2004, 05:31 PM
Wow.

What a thread!

I, too, dislike GNT.  

His style, his attitude, his "stay on topic every 5 posts" posts, his blatant re-posting news from other sites where he basically starts a thread on every news item then locks all other threads on the subject.

The thing that bugs me most though is when he pulls something out of his @$$ (Ewok Mom w/Woklings, etc), passes it off as fact/truth (usually going so far as to claim another non-scum site said it first when usually site B never said it) then ignores any critisism when he is wrong.

There are countless examples of times he states something as true when he has NO factual basis for it.  Then, when he is proven wrong (OTC) or told he has things backwards, often his tactic is to delete the post that proved him wrong and edit his original post so it looks like he was right all along, thus ignoring the whole thing as JesseJames stated earlier.

ADMIT IT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG, MAN!

If you pull things out of your @$$, you are gonna get it wrong.  At least be a man and say "Geez, I guess I was wrong: OTC and vOTC are different lines".  Unfortunately, all we ever get are "Whatever, it's all still Saga anyway" answers at best.

Between him and Curto's "Look at this new Figure!  Oops!  It's a custom. Gotcha!" crap, I barely look at 'scum anymore, only to compare big things like ToyFair or the Convention coverages, then I check out all the big sites.

Jeff
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 06:03 PM
His style, his attitude, his "stay on topic every 5 posts"

This is one of my biggest gripes too.   I can understand if a conversation has gone totally off track, but he won't let a conversation evolve or let you make a joke without giving you crap for it.

One time, I believe it was Old Cocky, was talking about this uncle Jesse

(http://pages.sbcglobal.net/awhale/uncle_jesse/images/pyle.jpg)

So I post an image of this uncle jesse:

(http://www.wwujd.com/contactunclejesse_files/Uncle-Jesse-2.jpg)

I come back an hour later - GNT has deleted my post, without warning or anything.  He didn't edit it - he frickin' deleted it.

Blah.  It's not like I called him a douche bag or anything....
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Diddly on February 24, 2004, 06:09 PM
Too late to join the discussion, but I will say that I'm fed up with Greg(g), and I'm glad someone started a removal petition (Although he'll just close the thread and move it to his "Secret Spot").

JoshEEE, you could move those threads back to the public, right?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 06:20 PM
The thing that bugs me most though is when he pulls something out of his @$$ (Ewok Mom w/Woklings, etc), passes it off as fact/truth (usually going so far as to claim another non-scum site said it first when usually site B never said it) then ignores any critisism when he is wrong.

There are countless examples of times he states something as true when he has NO factual basis for it.  Then, when he is proven wrong (OTC) or told he has things backwards, often his tactic is to delete the post that proved him wrong and edit his original post so it looks like he was right all along, thus ignoring the whole thing as JesseJames stated earlier.

ADMIT IT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG, MAN!

If you pull things out of your @$$, you are gonna get it wrong.  At least be a man and say "Geez, I guess I was wrong: OTC and vOTC are different lines".  Unfortunately, all we ever get are "Whatever, it's all still Saga anyway" answers at best.

As I've similarly stated elsewhere - that's exactly my biggest beef with him right now Jeff.  You nailed it on the head.  Yeah, his heavy handed and oft hypocritical moderating is pathetic, but it's his frequent outright denials that he was wrong about xyz, and adamant refusal to say "I goofed" about anything that's really bothering me now, and is what finally made me start speaking up about him over there.  Up until about a week ago, I've generally ignored most of his $h!tty moderating.  But when he started misinforming and confusing the hell out of all the RS members about things lately, turning their Saga forums into a state of mass confusion with a hundred posts about "wait, what's this line vs. that one?", it was the final straw.

BTW Jeff, you can actually say "ass" here if you'd like...   ;)  Yeah, I know.  We're cool like that!   :P

I also don't know why he thinks he can just randomly start saying that he KNOWS about such and such figure as being confirmed, when not a single collecting site on the net has any such confirmation.  It's as if he thinks people will believe anything he says now just because he says it...   ::)  That whole "Coin" vs. "Medallion" thing, and the prototype arguement, were absolutely classic as well!  I think he really does think he's God now...   :-\

Then I guess I can expect a warning to be forthcoming.

Nah, you and the rest of the other GNT bashers over at RS are perfectly fine Mikey.  It's just Scott and I that are apparently on Philip's $h!tlist, for whatever reason.  Persistence, I'd guess.   8)

In closing, I'd just like to acknowledge Gregg's cousin Greg, aka "The Master", once more...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 24, 2004, 06:25 PM
JoshEEE, you could move those threads back to the public, right?
GNT can't move it out of the current area - it's not one of his sections.

Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 24, 2004, 06:45 PM
Well I added to the scum post. Not much but I do support it for various reasons. I used to frequent scum and have been a member there for a lenght of time longer than here. The reason I have basically stopped being a part of most threads at scum is the lack of respect both on a member and mod level. I have had my differnces with Philip in the past and in my mind have some unresolved issues with him but o well. I will admit I never really cared for GNT and his attitude and as of late it is worse.
 I don't really care about post counts but I will say mine are more than twice as much here than there(scum) .  The whole reason behind that is the fact I like the people here and like to interact with them. Why. I consider quite a lot of people here friends and I like that everyone usually treats others well. Forms rounded discussions and helps each other with out the air of being superior.
 GNT is just the tip of the iceberg at scum but if he is demoted it is a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2004, 07:00 PM
You're her baby's daddy?!?   :o  You're GNT's dad?!?  Holy $h!t!!!   :o  Why would you claim responsibility for that, ya' big dumbass?!   :-X

Dude, what other comeback did I have to "You know Vicki too?!?!"

You're lucky you already cashed the check, man.

-----

As far as Gregggggg goes, again, the other mods don't catch the sh!t that he does is because, simply put, they're not anywhere near his level of suck.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 24, 2004, 07:13 PM
As a form of civil resistance I've dropped out of survivor,I don't think the game can go on with two players gone,or can it?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2004, 07:57 PM
And Phillip the Wise closed it.


Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 07:58 PM
And Phillip the Wise closed it.


Kevin

You beat me to it...

Man he sure brought the hammer down:

Quote
This is not how moderators come and go in this forum

Sounds like GNT really is God.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: P'dubs on February 24, 2004, 08:02 PM
Damn I give you info Kev and you mis use it. I wanted to be the one to break the news. OH well.

Seeing that the tides had turned in there seeing that everyone was suddenly against Durge (which is really weird) it was about time to close it. Too many of the Mods were getting pissed.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 08:10 PM
Sounds like GNT really is God.

Indeed.


I'll never understand it...   ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Sems Fir on February 24, 2004, 08:14 PM
JediMac wrote:

"That whole "Coin" vs. "Medallion" thing, and the prototype arguement, were absolutely classic as well!"

Since I was one of the main culprits for proving GNT wrong in the Xizor thread I will state that I personally, don't have it out for GNT (despite my picture with comment added that I posted earlier in this thread).  Yes, he made himself look completely foolish in yet another one of his classic performances.  Gregg was doing his best to save his pride / ego but he ran into a couple of individuals who take the time to research about this hobby that we all share, and we could back up what was stated, while he knew he could not and his best effort was speculation.  If you notice Gregg disappeared once the Naboo fighter first shot images were posted as he had no defense against tangible evidence.  Plus, I knew that he did not know anyone of the employees who worked on either the Xizor figure or the Naboo fighter.  He did dance around many questions (that still are / went unanswered) as Gregg knew that he couldn't respond to them.  The now classic sig line "I'm God, so live with it" was such a poor comment to make, considering it showed how uneducated he proved himself to be in the hobby, and it also showcased his lack of intelligence when debating a topic, in particular a topic he knows nothing about.

I have great respect for JoshEEE for leaving the thread open.  I would've expected GNT to close the thread himself (if he could have, after taking some final shots) or for GNT to email a moderator of that section of the forums to close the thread, but JoshEEE let the storm ride until the end.

Gregg provides good entertainment (at least for me).  His posts are quite amusing, especially when he types drivel that clearly shows he has no idea what he's talking about.  I completely understand the frustration that everyone is feeling as to why he is still a moderator.  I still respect the position that he has as moderator.  I know it's an extremely difficult time consuming position.  Thanks again to everyone who posted to the Xizor thread in my defense.  I really appreciated it.

Best regards to the staff at Jedidefender!

Robert
NOOMIVARR SECTOR
BLACK S. U. N.

Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 08:17 PM
As a form of civil resistance I've dropped out of survivor,I don't think the game can go on with two players gone,or can it?

And right on schedule, GNT has locked the thread.

http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=010315;p=4
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: P'dubs on February 24, 2004, 08:22 PM
That needed to be closed, it was too heated between them.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 24, 2004, 08:23 PM
Yep.
I say we all formaly resign from RS since GNT is still a moderator.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on February 24, 2004, 08:24 PM
I've mostly ignored all the goings on with GNT, I try to pretend he doesn't exist...

That said, is the science fair geek pictured above really GNT, or just another Optimus Prime that someone found and decided to label GNT?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 24, 2004, 08:26 PM
WE MAY BE ON THE VERGE OF A BREAKTHROUGH!

Listen to this reply from GNT in PM.

"However,have you considered steping down from being a moderator?"

since I don't know where my response will end up I'll just say "no".

Sounds like he's thinking about it!
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 08:35 PM
That said, is the science fair geek pictured above really GNT, or just another Optimus Prime that someone found and decided to label GNT?

Where the hell have you been Adam?!?    :P  Yes, that's most definitely Gregg there!

Although GNT claims it's just a picture of his cousin Greg...   ::)   ;D
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: P'dubs on February 24, 2004, 08:37 PM
WE MAY BE ON THE VERGE OF A BREAKTHROUGH!

Listen to this reply from GNT in PM.

"However,have you considered steping down from being a moderator?"

since I don't know where my response will end up I'll just say "no".

Sounds like he's thinking about it!
It's probly all the peer pressure of everyone hating him.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 24, 2004, 08:40 PM
I started a petition page that neither Philip or Greg(g) can close. Lets see how may actually sign up.

http://www.petitiononline.com/scum04/petition.html


I am adding it to my RS sig. Feel free to do so as well
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 08:44 PM
I started a petition page that neither Philip or Greg(g) can close. Lets see how may actually sign up.

http://www.petitiononline.com/scum04/petition.html


I am adding it to my RS sig. Feel free to do so as well

I guarantee that anyone linking that in their sig will be asked to remove it and given a warning.   And Phillip obviously doesn't respond to that sort of stuff...  That being said, I'll sign it and add it to my signature.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 08:45 PM
I am adding it to my RS sig. Feel free to do so as well

Just what I was going to say.  They'll make you remove it in a heartbeat Sarge!  But we can always advertise it elsewhere...   :P  Kind of a grass roots kinda thing?   8)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2004, 08:45 PM
If I wasnt so slow, I would figure out how to get to my SIG on RS.

How do I get to my sig, guys?

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 24, 2004, 08:49 PM
Philip can ask me to remove it all he likes I won't. He will have to take away my sig all together. Either way no skin off my ass.


I am curious as to how many will sign it. This way at least you can voice an opinion with out a flame war.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: jokabofe on February 24, 2004, 09:12 PM
I say we all formaly resign from RS since GNT is still a moderator.

well, i kinda informally resigned from there about 6 weeks ago or so...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on February 24, 2004, 09:19 PM
We need to bring over some of the Props and Other Collectibles people from 'Scum (except Mini Rock...). I stay over theree for those two forums, otherwise I'd be over here all the time
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 24, 2004, 09:40 PM
Ok update,and I think you guys will finds this particularly intersting:

My reply to him from earlier was:I really think you should,dude,it would make alot of people happy.

He replied:At this moment my answer is still "no", most of the people complaining have mostly moved on to another star wars site and have always been on my tail before being a mod.

I replied:You mean Jedidefender? I moved over there too.
You know its not just Scott and Matt and Durge,it is about 90% of the people here.Honestly.

He replied and confirmed our suspicions with:
I'm sure whatever I post in this PM will no doubt be posted in JD forums....

It doesn't bother me where you or anyone posts - it's a free world, if people wish to move to another site say JD for example then please go for it, perhaps with some members gone RS will become a much better place without people complaining about me every second...Just make sure that when you all move please move on for good.

And I replied:Well,that's a bit unfriendly. And I see you DO visit the JD fourms and since I have your blessing...

Well,there you have it.Sounds like he is indeed watching us and he is going to reamin a RS mod.That is bad news.

EDIT:Hello GNT! Since you put me on your ignore list I thought I'd still convey this message to you!Threatening a member isn't very becoming of a moderator is it?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2004, 10:26 PM
Philip Modded my sig.

I shall repair it.

I wont be ignored.

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 11:13 PM
I started a petition page that neither Philip or Greg(g) can close. Lets see how may actually sign up.

http://www.petitiononline.com/scum04/petition.html


I am adding it to my RS sig. Feel free to do so as well
I would do it but it seems my profile has been locked.  I also got an email from Philip saying that he has changed my sig (without a reason).  I had "I'm god so live with it" without anyone's name attach to it.  So I could of been talking that I was god.

EDIT:Hello GNT! Since you put me on your ignore list I thought I'd still convey this message to you!Threatening a member isn't very becoming of a moderator is it?

IF he threatened you through a PM forward it to Phillip since thats against fourm rules and not the way of a moderator.  This would be one ways to have him get remove since it seems that he won't get removed anyother way.  

As for the petition 15 people signed so far, hopefully more will soon.  I may post it over at GH since some members there post at Scum as well.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 08:53 AM
So far Philip as not altered my sig or Pm'd m e so It still stays.
 Line 17 on the petition is interesting if its really him.

 
For me its not personal more than the fact that members opinions and voices should be taken into consideration. I can see standing by your staff but if changes need to be made you also need to listen objectionably.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 25, 2004, 09:51 AM
I've tried numerous times to sign the petition, but it keeps saying my signature does not originate from the Petition Online thing.  ??? Could someone sign for me?

Name :
Brad "AngryEwok" Smith

E-Mail  *public* :
bsoldato@jedidefender.com

Comment :
"I want to see you out of the job, bro. No hard feelings, but you are doing a terrible service to RS." - AngryEwok (8/9/03)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 09:56 AM
Edit,.

 Brad you have been added
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: HWR on February 25, 2004, 01:59 PM
whatever happens, i think this is the most successful thread henrik wulff rasmussen ever started.

 :)
Bzzzzzt (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=009166)

Hey Scott, no need to pick anymore on Ivar, let him R.I.P.

Regarding your comments on how people hated "Sonic Death" and cheered when he was banned, don't forget alot of "Rebel Scumbags" were sad to see him go too.

Personally I think it was very harsh to ban him, and close both his accounts "Sonic Death" and "Virex" (well these were the names he used most of the time) . A minor temporary suspension might have been on it's place, cause he DID cross too many peoples lines one time too many, but not enough to get him permanently banned.

But then againg, I'm just a "freeky European who have a man-crush on him, and it is something fierce".  ;)

-Henrik
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 25, 2004, 02:22 PM
I'm just a "freeky European who have a man-crush on him, and it is something fierce".  ;)

-Henrik

 >:(
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 25, 2004, 04:09 PM
Yes,however,since it was more of a general threat to JD than anything else,I can't do anything.

His threat: He'll start posting more often here.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 05:09 PM
Yes,however,since it was more of a general threat to JD than anything else,I can't do anything.

His threat: He'll start posting more often here.

Or scary   ::)

He wouldn't be giving the chance to pull the crap that he does at Rebelscum here and will probally be banned before he hits 100 post.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Diddly on February 25, 2004, 06:04 PM
JUST TAKEN FROM THE RS CHAT!!!!!!!!!!!

"You children are a part of what contaminates the Rebelscum forums." - GNT to myself and FYI_Vator

EDIT: I've added this to my RS sig. Let's see how long it takes Greg(g) to lock my profile...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 25, 2004, 06:06 PM
Tell him...real big coming from an 18 year old
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 25, 2004, 06:11 PM
I'm still not interly sure that was him,but he did seems a lot like GNT.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: D-Miles23 on February 25, 2004, 06:13 PM
I'm still not interly sure that was him,but he did seems a lot like GNT.

He did talk like him but he didn't answer the first question you gave him, so I don't know
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 25, 2004, 06:23 PM
JUST TAKEN FROM THE RS CHAT!!!!!!!!!!!

"You children are a part of what contaminates the Rebelscum forums." - GNT to myself and FYI_Vator

If that was indeed Greg(g), that's completely hypocritical of him to make that statement for two reasons:

1)  He's only 18 years old himself.   ::)

2)  He's a big part of what contaminates the Rebelscum forums.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 06:44 PM
I wonder if it would be any good if I pm Phillip and talk about GNT over moderation.  I'm not sure what good it will do since GNT hasn't done anything bad to me except general stuff like the over moderation.
 
Edit: I just PM Gregg asking him to answer the concerns that were bought up in that thread in the public view.  Lets see what happens with it.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Sith Lord Cosmo on February 25, 2004, 06:58 PM
Quote
16.  HomeSkooledFan  Remove GNT AND Phillip Wise. Both are arrogant and unpleasant people.
I think this was my favorite signature off the petition

 >:(
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: FX-7 on February 25, 2004, 07:05 PM
I stopped going to Rebelcrap when they made that dude a moderator.  He's been a tool since he was at Sir Steve's Guide where I stopped going because he was a tool
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 07:39 PM
first off can a mod at Rs lock a profile or does that come from Philip?

 2 philip has yet to adress me in PM or mail reguarding a few mod items. 1 Jeremy and a few actions from him and 2 a comment on my petition.

 Come on guys spread the word on the petition since Phil knows it up. :)

 I told him to use it as constructive not negative.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 07:46 PM
first off can a mod at Rs lock a profile or does that come from Philip?

 2 philip has yet to adress me in PM or mail reguarding a few mod items. 1 Jeremy and a few actions from him and 2 a comment on my petition.

 Come on guys spread the word on the petition since Phil knows it up. :)

 I told him to use it as constructive not negative.
I have it in my GH sig line but the only way I can spread it over at RS is to post it since my profile is still locked.  I think if I start spamming the board with the address I may get in big touble but I may post it in Wuhers anyway. ;D
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Ook on February 25, 2004, 07:53 PM
I signed. GNT stinks.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 25, 2004, 08:08 PM
Well, I got a little overly excited this afternoon when I noticed that Jeremy posted this asinine nonsense when he closed one of those two GNT related Feedback Forum threads (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000630):

Quote
I'm talking about when antagonists make personal attacks against mods and members in their attempt to get rid of them. I'm thinking of the time some members used a picture they believed was Gregg to try and embaress him.

I really hope that he's not being serious there, and suggesting that Scott and I made that stuff up, and that the picture of Greg(g) isn't really him...  That's ludicrous.  I'm actually really close to posting the entire irrefutable trail of evidence that led us directly to the doorsteps of GNT's high school Yahoo News Groups page, with several of his pictures in their art section, like the now infamous one that the whole world has seen.

Apparently Greg(g)'s still telling folks that we just made the whole thing up.  In fact, it sounds like he's even denying now that he said that the picture is actually of "his cousin Greg", who is also nicknamed "The Master", just like Gregg/GNT is...  Boy, the family reunions there must be terribly confusing!   ::)

In fact, I was pretty much fine with Greg(g) for the most part, right up until the point he started adamantly denying the fact that we'd discovered his true (18 year old Pat Benatar with a goatee lookalike) identity.  When he started screaming and crying like a frightened little school girl, and hastily editing the name under his pictures from "Gregg" and "The Master" to just "Greg", before finally just locking access to his high school's page, I lost all respect for him...  Plus, the whole "I'm going to sue you guys" thing was just downright hilarious!   :P

I really feel sorry for anyone that's too damned frightened to admit to themselves and others who they really are, and who has to flat out LIE to the community that they participate in, in order to feel accepted (Gregg claims to be 33).  That's just sad.  Since Gregg is definitely a liar (on many occassions), I'm pretty sure that disqualifies him from being "God", as he's also claimed right here. (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=48;t=000441;p=2)

What a turd.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 08:14 PM
Well, I got a little overly excited this afternoon when I noticed that Jeremy posted this asinine nonsense when he closed one of those two GNT related Feedback Forum threads (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000630):

Quote
I'm talking about when antagonists make personal attacks against mods and members in their attempt to get rid of them. I'm thinking of the time some members used a picture they believed was Gregg to try and embaress him.

I really hope that he's not being serious there, and suggesting that Scott and I made that stuff up, and that the picture of Greg(g) isn't really him...  That's ludicrous.  I'm actually really close to posting the entire irrefutable trail of evidence that led us directly to the doorsteps of GNT's high school Yahoo News Groups page, with several of his pictures in their art section, like the now infamous one that the whole world has seen.

Apparently Greg(g)'s still telling folks that we just made the whole thing up.  In fact, it sounds like he's even denying now that he said that the picture is actually of "his cousin Greg", who is also nicknamed "The Master", just like Gregg/GNT is...  Boy, the family reunions there must be terribly confusing!   ::)

In fact, I was pretty much fine with Greg(g) for the most part, right up until the point he started adamantly denying the fact that we'd discovered his true (18 year old Pat Benatar with a goatee lookalike) identity.  When he started screaming and crying like a frightened little school girl, and hastily editing the name under his pictures from "Gregg" and "The Master" to just "Greg", before finally just locking access to his high school's page, I lost all respect for him...  Plus, the whole "I'm going to sue you guys" thing was just downright hilarious!   :P

I really feel sorry for anyone that's too damned frightened to admit to themselves and others who they really are, and who has to flat out LIE to the community that they participate in, in order to feel accepted (Gregg claims to be 33).  That's just sad.  Since Gregg is definitely a liar (on many occassions), I'm pretty sure that disqualifies him from being "God", as he's also claimed right here. (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=48;t=000441;p=2)

What a turd.

I was reading that as will and can't belive that they think you guys are making it up.  I posted the thread over there since my Profile is still denied to me and wanted to give more people the chance to sign it.  It's going to be interesting to see if its up in a few hours or not.  If they lock it I will repost it and ask them why they FEAR their members voicing they concerns about a moderator.  Hopefully I don't have to do it.

EDIT:  I guess I have to do it since they just moved it or deleted it.  Why do you guys at RS fear your community so much.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 08:17 PM
Matt,
  Jeremy has rubbed me the wrong way as of the past few days. The biggest thing that pisses me off with the whole GNT thing is that no one is allowed to have an opinion if it is public. It seems to be only allowed in private. Hence Jeremy's responce. He pretty much proved my point by locking the thread. I am sure Kenobis thread will follow soon enough but I had to add to that one as well.  I am eagrly awaiting a responce from philip although it will get me no where buy further on the **** list.
 It really makes you wonder where the members opinions really stand in their world?\\



 edit addition
  Wow that didn't take long to get your thread closed Tom. I even responded in it to allow free speach. Guess the lords over ruled that silly notion.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 25, 2004, 08:20 PM
I've managed to have the petition remain in my sig line by just hyperlinking it with the text:

Check out this petition!


Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: jokabofe on February 25, 2004, 08:32 PM
I've managed to have the petition remain in my sig line by just hyperlinking it with the text:

Check out this petition!

well, that'll end as soon as someone reads this thread  ;)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 08:37 PM
Lets see how long this post last at rebel scum.Why Fear Us? (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000632)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 25, 2004, 08:41 PM
The biggest thing that pisses me off with the whole GNT thing is that no one is allowed to have an opinion if it is public. It seems to be only allowed in private.

That's definitely the root of the problem Wayne.  None of their members are allowed to discuss it there, hence this gigantic snowballing "GNT Appreciation Thread" right here.  It's sad that we have to be the site to host the discussion about their moderator's ineffective abilities, instead of RS themselves.  It's because of this thread, that certain people are now incorrectly making this out to be some kind of huge site war between RS and JD, which couldn't be further from the truth...

The truth is just that most everyone thinks that Gregg should have his moderating title revoked.  That's pretty much all this issue really boils down to.  It's not JD vs. RS, or Matt and Scott vs. Greg(g).  It's just about doing the right thing.  It's about listening to your community and what they have to say - not turning a deaf ear to them and shunning them off to discuss said issue elsewhere.

Greg(g) has finally developed his "holier than thou" attitude, even to the point that he's referring to himself as God there, and it's really quite obnoxious - yet no one can say a word to or about him over there.  He's untouchable, and that's indeed a very sad testament to the current state of affairs at RS in my opinion...   :-\

BTW Tom, I'd probably just lay off trying to start new threads up over there on the matter.  Not really worth it.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 08:48 PM
Matt-
 This thread summs up what I feel
http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=013919

 I am sure it will get closed but I used an angle I hate to use. But after a half a dozen Jack and Cokes I loosen up.
 I agree what bothers me the most is no one is allowed to have a public opinion. For the life of me I just don't understand what that type of discussion is so feared?   I will say my RS days are numbered now but I really could care less. There is a reason I am here. All I can say is thanks to all the other members who make this place special
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 08:48 PM

BTW Tom, I'd probably just lay off trying to start new threads up over there on the matter.  Not really worth it.

That is my last post I will start over there about it anyways.  I just wish others will see it and maybe rasie questions about why we can't speak up when a moderator abuses his power.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 09:00 PM
Well all my threads at RS have since gone away. Even though they were civil and contained no ill remarks they are gone.  I love oppression ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 09:02 PM
Well all my threads at RS have since gone away. Even though they were civil and contained no ill remarks they are gone.  I love oppression ::)

I know how you feel.  I'm now waiting to get PM or emailed my banning letter because I spoke out on an issue that wasn't what the police state wanted to hear. ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 09:05 PM
well I got my PM


 
Philip Wise
 
Member # 1624   posted 02-25-2004 08:02 PM          
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wayne,

I have already stated this but I'll do it again for you.

How I manage the forum and moderators is not open to public discussion in this forum.

People will either like it or not and stay or not.

You can have all the discussion about it in public if you like, but not in a forum I provide.

Take your crusade elsewhere.
 
 
 
 Well that about summs up his openess to his members
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 09:15 PM
well I got my PM


 
Philip Wise
 
Member # 1624   posted 02-25-2004 08:02 PM          
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wayne,

I have already stated this but I'll do it again for you.

How I manage the forum and moderators is not open to public discussion in this forum.

People will either like it or not and stay or not.

You can have all the discussion about it in public if you like, but not in a forum I provide.

Take your crusade elsewhere.
 
 
 
 Well that about summs up his openess to his members

Thats a shame on the way he run those fourms.  I can remember when Mike (Bananapunk) use to own those fourms.  He wouldn't talk to a concern member in that way and was always open to people talking to him and other moderators if there was problem any time any where on the fourm.  
I still haven't gotten a PM so I guess he writting a very long one for me.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 25, 2004, 09:48 PM
I just resigned,for the time being.I'll bet I get banned. :-*
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on February 25, 2004, 10:07 PM
Well, Im not a GNT fan, I've hated him since well before he became a moderator. That said, I think all of this crusading against him has gone out of control.

Nothing is going to be done. Publicly bitching about it is obviously not going to change a damn thing. Unfortunately, all it's really succeeding in is making us all look like a bunch of ********.

Jedi Defender is an awesome place, I came over to join the true hardcore fans and collectors, the polite, professional collectors. Now its starting to degrade into GNT this, GNT that.

Honestly, do you think GNT is phased? Hell, the little punk is probably happy as a pig in **** that we've gone this nuts over him. It's making him infamous. If everyone just started ignoring him and pretending he wasn't a member of the board, so far as not even acknowledging his threads, perhaps he'd tone down, or just leave altogether.

I think one of the big reasons he's being kept on at 'Scum is because its only going to set a precedent for mods to come. People are going to think they can overthrow every mod they deam unworthy, etc. It would be like Philip throwing in the towel and saying "Fine, you guys win. Take the board, its yours".

If you really want GNT gone, I suggest you write a polite, professional letter to Philip showing evidence of why GNT is causing a problem for RS.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 25, 2004, 10:09 PM
Agreed...

GNT doesn't post here remember, this is Rebelscum without GNT.  
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Chris on February 25, 2004, 10:17 PM
Quite well put Adam, and with that, the discussion is over. I do suggest that polite letters be sent to Philip, and only to Philip. This is between GNT, yourself, and Philip Wise. A third party is not needed. If you wish to discuss it to others, please do so through private messages or e-mail.

We have established that not many here like GNT, take it for what it is worth and deal with it in a professional manner. Worry about finding that new figure or checking out the new Episode 3 spoilers that are currently online at JD, not GNT. Everyone gets caught up in the chaos and this is just another case. Anyone wanting to express their opinions about the JD administration and this thread, please do so in our feedback forum.
Title: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: DeakStarkiller on February 29, 2004, 01:32 PM
Philip Wise, owner of Rebelscum.com and majority owner of theforce.net, has become the most hated man in Star Wars fandom almost overnight.  To regular Rebelscummers, you may want to jump ship to over here(if you already haven't!;D), a fair community run by fans, NOT profiteers.  The following links tell the story, but to summarize:

Wise demanded that TF.n Jedi Council forum moderators transmit their real names and addresses to him--basically, for two reasons-1.to be able to hold them liable in case LFL sues for spoiler postings-and 2. to make them available to their "affiliate sites" for "marketing purposes".  

Many moderators refused for security reasons; Wise demoted all who didn't comply. I'm paraphrasing, and you can find the info at the links below, but basically, Wise said he would shut the forums down if they caused him trouble.  No matter how chilidish the JC forums at TF.n can get, they're inarguably the heart of on-line SW fandom.  

Basically, Wise plans to overhaul theforce.net to make it more of a "business" entity, so he can make more money off of it. Fine--this is a capitalist society. The problem lies in the fact that FAN communities are about something else that Wise obviously (in light of this, and the GNT issues at Scum), and by his own admission, holds in low regard. Do you really want to post at a site owned by this guy? The worm has turned, friends.

Also, I'm well aware that RS is a private forum owned by Wise.

The logical conclusion one can come to is that ALL Wise's sites will soon require registration--which means that your personal info will be on computers that can be (and have been, just yesterday) hacked, AND, that you'll be the subject of revenue-producing spam for Philip Wise.  "Collect to Collect" my ass.  You are not fellow fans to this guy anymore, you are a revenue stream.  I would have posted this at RS, but we all have seen this week how that would be dealt with...Read on!

Wise's statement at the JC:
http://boards.theforce.net/Communications/b10006/15063626/?816

A summary :
http://boards.theforce.net/Communications/b10006/15061378/?4

Reaction from millenniumfalcon.com:
http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=324

http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=325













Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 01:46 PM
It's odd to me, that at the same time he's fiercely loyal and protective of a dumbass, divisive mod at his Rebelscum forums, he's "firing" mods who have been attributes to the TF.N boards for years, simply because they won't cave into his demands.  

Very odd, especially when you consider that the size of the TF.N boards dwarves all of these other boards (RS, JD, SSG, GH) put together.  Mods are more necessary over there.

That man has no sense of community, or history.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Famine on February 29, 2004, 02:14 PM
That man has no sense of community, or history.

And I bet he has a small penis too.

Kevin
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 02:16 PM
And I bet he has a small penis too.

Kevin

Yes, he does.

 :-\

(No questions, please.)
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ben on February 29, 2004, 02:31 PM
I've only had about ten posts at RS in the last month.

I fear if that place is shut down, all the twits and trolls will find their way here.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Vator on February 29, 2004, 02:39 PM
Philip should order some Enzyte, maybe that would stop his compensation wrath?

Seriously though, this is disgusting, and could very well lead to the down fall of TFN.  Would you want that to happen? Dosen't he realise that he is pissing off 90% of the Internet fanbase?

Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: SilverZ on February 29, 2004, 03:35 PM
Thanks for the story and links Deak. I'd heard a good summary from a friend last night and it's a shame how its degenerating.

My personal opinion is that this is entirely a financial decision on the part of the owner. Like all successful things, a hobby/fan interest grew out of a need for a service, and transitioned to mass-consumption and new opportunities for the owner. In this case, the owner has several successful peripheral financial ventures associated with the community, one specifically which is an official Lucasfilm sanctioned one - C2 Ventures, and surely C3 Ventures, which, in the owner's interest, must be a prominent presence next year in Indianapolis. Recent events  certainly put into question the owners ability to do so. So some of the actions that have taken are understandable.

Understandable, yes. Right for the community or fair to the people that helped bring success to those involved? Certainly not. The good thing is, regardless of what happens with both sites, it is still a fan community. There are plenty of other outlets that offer the same, and most times better, content and boards. Ones not concerned about loss of revenue from official sources tied to the subject they are trying to cover.  It's the contributers that make the sites worth visiting and other sites will take up the slack. Hopefully these spiritual successors will opt for the fan community's side rather than personal financial goals when managing the site's direction.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 29, 2004, 03:53 PM
The day that I have to register personal information with Philip Wise is the day I tell him to kiss my ass.

I like the idea of JD, but I still post at scum because things are a little slow around here at times.  That's not to say I like scum better, there's just more to respond to.

I see myself being more and more involved with you guys here at JD than scum as time goes on.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Boba Binks on February 29, 2004, 04:24 PM
I will admit that I have never liked the TFN forums or the RebelScum Forums. I was only on TFN forums because that was the only forum for the Indy Knights group when I belonged to that group. Other than that there was only RebelScum at the time. It seemed all other forums that came were soon gone.

I have never liked either of those places. The people who post there (fans as they may be) are Rude, Disrespectful, and downright Arrogant. People would flame for the sake of fun and many were hurt by it. I know I was. The people over there are just childish. They have to have it their way or else and the “or else” was something that happened often.

When JD opened up I jump over here because I know that Chris and crew will not put up with such garbage or have any such demands. This place is Eden compared to the other forums that are out there.

Weather or not the parties involved are correct in doing what was done, how it was taken care of, or not it was their decision. All things come round in a circle. Maybe it is time for those to get what is coming to them. I do not know. It is nothing but a big mess.

I think the battle is just beginning and I want no part of it.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Vator on February 29, 2004, 04:56 PM
Well, BB, I suppose we'll all have courtside seats for this battle, eh?

Though I doubt very much that this will be the end of those sites.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: JediMAC on February 29, 2004, 05:01 PM
Well, I've been biting my tongue on this issue since having several people point it out to me a couple days ago.  It's quite honestly completely disgusting what's going on over there.  I've spent several hours reading through the two big JC threads (they're 61 and 35 pages respectively, in just 2 days each), and it's mindboggling to me how much Philip can piss so many people off at both of his sites, and in such opposite ways, and absolutely care less about it.

In my opinion, and I hate to say this, Philip is all business man now, and not a Star Wars fan any more.  He owns the two biggest (non official) Star Wars sites on the web, and in the past week has made it abundantly clear that he could give a rat's ass for either of the massive forum communities that have developed therein.  This is what he tells his community and his staff: If you don't like it, then get the hell out - I don't care!  I was surprised enough that he made that blanket statement to all of his Rebelscum forum members during the GNT fiasco, but to say that to all of his hard working, volunteer moderators that keep his site running smoothly over at TFn just shows you how truly heartless this man has become...

And Deak, you forgot to point out the thread that started it all:

Show of Moderator solidarity against Philip (http://boards.theforce.net/Communications/b10006/15043366/?50) (61 pages long, in just two days!  :o)

What I find truly bizarre is how differently Philip's handling the two situations.  At RS, where so many people are demanding the demotion of a current crappy moderator (GNT), Philip defends and supports Greg(g) to the death, refusing to listen to his community, and deletes/hides any threads stating opposition to that issue within a matter of minutes.

Whereas over at TFn, Philip is doing just the opposite - he's firing GOOD moderators that their community completely likes and respects, for no other reason than they'd like to keep their personal information private, and not put it on a site that's already been hacked into several times.  Even more unbelievable is that Philip is actually allowing discussion on the topic over at TFn, with those two main threads coming in at 61 and 35 pages respectively (and growing).  Why allow people to discuss the situation at one site, and not the other?  Weird.  Very weird...

Two different situations.  Same heartless owner.  Same horrid (wrong) result...   ::)  It's an absolute shame what he's doing to the Star Wars community as a whole.  It's a shame that someone who doesn't care about Star Wars fans and the communities that he's developed at his two SW sites, is the very person that holds the keys to such a large chunk of the net's Star Wars discussion.  Scary.   :-\

But in the paraphrased words of Philip:  Deal with it, or get the hell out!
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Famine on February 29, 2004, 05:19 PM
The day that I have to register personal information with Philip Wise is the day I tell him to kiss my ass.

I say that to him all the time. He continues to ignore my question of why he locked my profile. The big jerk.

I wouldnt give HIM my personal information. If LucasFilm wanted it, I would gladly give it to THEM.

Kevin
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: paploo on February 29, 2004, 06:21 PM
what is the gnt fiasco?
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ben on February 29, 2004, 06:29 PM
what is the gnt fiasco?

The guy locks threads for the sake of locking them, and doesn't take well to criticism.

The RS community wanted him removed from his mod post, but Philip won't go for it.

If Phil is handling Celebration 3, then I think I won't go. **** that guy, the putz.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Famine on February 29, 2004, 06:38 PM
Phillip handeled Celebration 2??!

Kevin
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ben on February 29, 2004, 07:06 PM
I guess. Didn't C2 Ventures handle it?

Hell, I can't remember. There's a post in this thread about it.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 29, 2004, 07:12 PM
All I care to say is an echo of what has already been stated, that is that Philip Wise is a business man - not a Star Wars fan.

To be completely honest - and I may get flak for saying this - I'm thrilled that Philip Wise is showing everyone what an ass many of us already knew he is... Now people won't think I feel this way simply just because I work for JD and was banned from RS.


Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 29, 2004, 07:26 PM
WOTC ran C2 but I think C2 venutres ran the autographs.  Its sad that Philip is acting the way he is because as a result of these two fiascos people are going or already left.  Since the GNT thing I have seen more people joining here some of whom left for that reason some other may of wanted to see those pictures of EP3.  
Now I need to read those threads at TFN.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: OrionSlaveLotion on February 29, 2004, 07:44 PM
What a cad! If he pulls this stunt at RS it's not going to be pretty; it’s boxing glove central there as it is.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 09:24 PM
Phil owns C2 Ventures too...I have thoughts on this but I want to think a little bit more about it before I put in my 2 bits/12.5
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Rob on February 29, 2004, 10:34 PM
No suprises here...

It's turning into the Gestapo over there....
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: SilverZ on March 1, 2004, 02:03 AM
Yeah, he owns C2 Ventures - which ran the autograph section at the convention, and continues to pimp them through the TFN autograph store. You can imagine the stress something like leaked images through either of his sites would put on that business, and any future officially sanctioned Lucas/Star Wars/Convention merchandise he has on tap.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ook on March 1, 2004, 04:31 AM
Who's Philip Wise?

 ???
Apparently, a complete (http://www.gamevolution.it/yabbse/smilies/no.gif)

Please do not circumvent the language filter!
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Muftak on March 1, 2004, 07:40 AM
As far as the spark for the whole debate, when I hired in as a moderator over at Rebelscum, Philip asked for my "real-world" contact information. I sent it to him and never gave it a second thought. What's the big deal with that?

As far as the further developments go, I'm sad but I'm not too surprised. I naven't had a problem with Philip on a personal level but he definitely has a different take on how to run message boards than I would.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ook on March 1, 2004, 07:54 AM
Please do not circumvent the language filter!

Circumvent? You better check your settings. All I did was type the word. I was actually surprised because I thought you guys censored here...


EDIT: I just tried some choice words in a preview post. You guys have it set to catch dirty words if they're exact, but not variations. For example, if you had "crap" censored, "crapweasel" still gets through. You need to set it so it comes up "****weasel".
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 09:17 AM
;)  Don't worry too much on the language filter thing, the biggies are not really recommended for daily use and if we see them, we'll edit them.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: MisterPL on March 1, 2004, 10:47 AM
Philip told me once the forums were at the bottom of his list of concerns. He just doesn't seem to care about the community he hosts.

If that's still true, I wouldn't be surprised if he shut down the Jedi Council and Rebelscum forums, especially if they are quite literally more trouble than they are worth. They'll just go back to being news sites.

What a businessman. Nice collection, too.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: delvec on March 1, 2004, 10:59 AM
You guys see this as some kinda shock-
he never cared about forums and the only reason they actually had forums came from the CSW merger.
It was a no brainer who's forums were getting used for that one. If he actually cared what people think dont ya think RS would have a chatroom too- not one created by a mod not even hosted by scum? Its not a server issue if he has 6 dedicated servers for Toy Fair coverage.

Actually for him, its a brilliant move. Its already not his major concern (hes too busy looking for the next site to buy) and if the forums would die- you guys would still go there for news, which really pays his bills in the first place.

And really the required info for his MODS really shouldnt be too farfetched. If the leaking spoiler info gets outta control, its his tail Lucas is going after and he's making sure these people may take some accountability if GL lays the hammer down.

Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: MisterPL on March 1, 2004, 11:12 AM
So let me get this straight:

A mod at Rebelscum hosts a chat room.

During a recent chat, stolen Episode III images are shared.

The images get leaked to JediDefender.

JediDefender gets a slap on the wrist from Lucasfilm who starts tracking the images back to the source.

Philip (who's got a good thing going) is suddenly feeling the heat when it's learned that these stolen images came from one of his forum mods.

Consequently - like any good manager - he insists on having the personal contact info for everyone who works with him.

Am I missing anything? It seems like Philip's just covering his own ass, just like any of us might.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 11:19 AM
Well, I thought that too at first but it seems this demand was made before any of the JD stuff happened...seems like TFN is in a little hot water based from LFL for their Spoiler Policy

Also, he's gotta make sure someone besides him is going to take the fall for owning forums of such size...hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil

Also like Bobb said, this has been standard practice at RS for a while, he's just making it a corporate mandate
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: delvec on March 1, 2004, 11:45 AM
So let me get this straight:

A mod at Rebelscum hosts a chat room.

During a recent chat, stolen Episode III images are shared.

The images get leaked to JediDefender.

JediDefender gets a slap on the wrist from Lucasfilm who starts tracking the images back to the source.

Philip (who's got a good thing going) is suddenly feeling the heat when it's learned that these stolen images came from one of his forum mods.

Consequently - like any good manager - he insists on having the personal contact info for everyone who works with him.

Am I missing anything? It seems like Philip's just covering his own ass, just like any of us might.
And speaking of those leaked pictures- ya might wanna see take a trip across the pond at TPU and see what they uncovered- anything catch your eye?
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Reconsgt on March 1, 2004, 01:51 PM
Maybe someone can answer this for me. Its a question I had for a while.


 1.) Is a forum that is open to the public-( no membership fee or a listed policy you agree to before entering in.) covered under free speach? Or is that site allowed to censor statements, comments or pictures that are not either swearing or unappropriate due to age related legalities ( nude pics).   Is it a private domain?

just curious.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 02:02 PM
It's been said repeatedly (On both sides) that Phil didn't buy CSW, I believe that because I don't see what BP had to gain in selling...
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: delvec on March 1, 2004, 02:28 PM
He wouldnt have to deal with the headaches involved on the admin end and get a nice lil chunk change for his content- thats doesnt mean he did buy but that looks like a good reason
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 03:15 PM
I really don't know either besides what was said at the time of the merger...and its not really right to speculate on said matter of what might have happened behind the scenes because we don't know ??? :-\  

I am glad Mike decided to start GH, a lot of my online friends hang out there and the guys who work there are great and consider a lot of them friends too.  People rail on them for having such a small community but as they have repeatedly said that doesn't really bother them (and is the exact same thing we say)  Its the quality of said members (many of which we share) that make forums a place people want to come, not the over use of smilies and one line answers.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Jeff on March 1, 2004, 03:28 PM
I really don't know either besides what was said at the time of the merger...and its not really right to speculate on said matter of what might have happened behind the scenes because we don't know ??? :-\  

Agreed.  Only Mike and Phillip will ever really know the facts, the rest of us are just left to speculate, and you know what happens then, you just make a "spec" out of u and late... wait?  Is that right?

Jeff
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: FX-7 on March 1, 2004, 03:54 PM
I stopped going to that **** site a long time ago, not sure why people even post there...especially when you got places like here
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: JediMAC on March 1, 2004, 04:10 PM
There appears to have definitely been some kind of new ownership issues that allowed Philip to somehow swindle the forums AND THE PICTURE ARCHIVES (and CSW name) away from Mike.  Philip screwed him, as far as I can tell...

As for the moderators having to give out their personal info, if you read through those two giant threads over at TFn, you'll see that the issue is much larger than just that.  They didn't have a problem with the request so much, as they had a problem with the way that Philip went about the whole thing.  He basically wrote their "Mod Squad" and told them to enter their personal information through a non-secure web site, that says it will be public information and could be shared, and if they didn't hand over the personal info, they'd be fired on the spot.

This includes single females, as well as underage individuals.  Philip didn't ask people to send HIM the info for his files.  That wasn't an option.  Only entering it onto this website.  Another thing that they found troubling is that many of them had been there for years and had never been asked for this information before.  It seems that there's a large "troll" issue over there, and many of the mods don't want these trolls showing up at their doorsteps, since their address could easily be obtained.

Further compounding the situation was that Philip originally wouldn't even tell them why he all of the sudden needed the info after all these years, aside from some vague reference to depositions.  Since they're all volunteer moderators, they have little interest in getting sued, or even deposed, for something related to Philip's site.

They all tried to ask Philip some more questions to try to better understand the situation, but he's refused any and all correspondence with them.  These people didn't even know who the hell Philip was until last Thursday, when he placed this demand on them.  He only has 13 posts at TFn for the history of that board, and none in almost a year.  For whatever reason, the other (minority) co-owner of TFn (Josh Griffin, I think) is refusing to chime in on the situation, despite being the guy that most of these mods consider the owner there.  Makes you wonder if he disagrees with Philip's heavy handed actions there.

So Philip refuses to speak to any of these people from what I've read, and has fired many of them now, without even listening to their side of the issue, and without so much as a thank you for their services rendered to him and his site over the years.  Completely heartless.

I haven't caught up on the threads in the past day, so maybe some things have changed during that time, but I doubt it.  Anyway, like I said, it's a lot bigger issue than just asking for their contact info.  It's about total lack of respect, communication, and appreciation for his hard-working and dedicated staff at TFn...
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Diddly on March 1, 2004, 05:50 PM
The day that I have to register personal information with Philip Wise is the day I tell him to kiss my ass.

I like the idea of JD, but I still post at scum because things are a little slow around here at times.  That's not to say I like scum better, there's just more to respond to.

I see myself being more and more involved with you guys here at JD than scum as time goes on.

Same here. The only personal info I give out is my email address. If he wants my personal info, then he'll lose my services.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Mike Sullenger on March 1, 2004, 07:23 PM
I really don't know either besides what was said at the time of the merger...and its not really right to speculate on said matter of what might have happened behind the scenes because we don't know ??? :-\  

Agreed.  Only Mike and Phillip will ever really know the facts, the rest of us are just left to speculate, and you know what happens then, you just make a "spec" out of u and late... wait?  Is that right?

Jeff

Let’s have the speculation end. ;) Thanks to you know who for pointing this thread out.

Money was never a factor when I decided to join Rebelscum as co-owner and combine CollectStarWars.com content with theirs. I have never asked nor received any compensation from Philip Wise because this was never a business transaction. It stemmed from a more demanding work schedule during that period of time as well as a desire to create a better site by joining the two entities.

I decided to set off on my own and run my own website again, because I had a vision that I wanted to follow which differed somewhat from Rebelscum’s. I also decided that it was probably in the best interests of both parties and the community at large that I leave the forums and archives where they were, and start off fresh. As an additional gesture of goodwill, I gave the moderators the option of staying with Rebelscum or joining me at Galactic Hunter. All this in the hopes that there would be no hard feelings between Scum and myself, because in all honesty, this is just a hobby for me, and it’s not worth all the b.s. and strife that comes with web politics.

I hope that this clears everything up about the CSW/RS/GH issue. I’m very proud of what Team Galactic Hunter has accomplished during only two years of being online, and I refuse to diminish that accomplishment by dwelling on this issue.  

We have a lot to look forward to these next two years as a fan community, let’s focus on having fun with what time we have left rather than being engrossed with ugly web politics. I’m not going to comment too much on the current TFN controversy, but I will say this, Philip has invested a lot of time and money with both sites. What he decides to do with it is his discretion as a webmaster and businessman, because he’s accountable from both a legal and financial standpoint. You can disagree with what actions he decides to take, and have the ultimate freedom of choice to visit the sites you want to visit.

On a closing note, CollectStarWars.com has always belonged to me, and I alone own the domain. The URL currently redirects to Galactic Hunter.

Mike Sullenger
GalacticHunter.com
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: DeakStarkiller on March 1, 2004, 11:03 PM
You can disagree with what actions he decides to take, and have the ultimate freedom of choice to visit the sites you want to visit.


Exactly.  And the honorable choice to make is to visit sites run by fans , like jedidefender.com and galactichunter.com, among others.  Undoubtedly, Philip Wise puts alot of time and money into his sites--to *make* money off of all of us.  And there's nothing wrong with that--Lucasfilm makes plenty of money off of us; however, we all knew upfront that LFL was a business.  Philip is a corporate wolf in fan's clothing, and just because you're a collector, does not make you a fan .
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 11:14 PM
Mike, thanks much for your words...you're site is one of the best around and we're all better for what you and your staff bring to the table (especially the Swami!)

Sooo...not sure if our mod friends at RS have been following the thread at the TF.N or not but I'm curious if they've thought about what is being said at all...
Here's a Hypothetical

#1 Someone leaks pics on the Rebelscum forums of Episode 3 Figures
#2 Rebelscum is sent a Cease and Desist...they remove all of them, ban the perp and move on
#3 2 weeks later, RS's forums leak more pics, already suffering from the last blow, LFL and Hasbro sue Rebelscum and its owner for repeated discretion
#4 Phil, blames the Section moderator and passes said buck to the sorry sap who was working or sleeping at the time, saying it was this guy or gals fault for not catching the spoilers and doing their job.  Oh and by the way, here's their address

Now, I think that is really farfetched, the relationship between the two entities is pretty solid and they would have to blatently and chronically disobey the rules but I can see what the Mods at TF.N are saying.

They are never going to require Users to send in any info...you're doing stuff you're not supposed to be, they'll contact your ISP and set the record straight
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Jeff on March 1, 2004, 11:32 PM
Let’s have the speculation end. ;) Thanks to you know who for pointing this thread out.

Thanks for clearing that up.  I guess I was just mis-understood on the whole thing (after hearing so many net-rumors I didn't really know what to believe).  I feel a little better hearing the truth of the matter for once and for all.

CSW.com was a lot of fun and I was a bit saddened when it merged with scum.  The forums have never seemed quite the same after that...  gh.com is great though.  You have a crack team over there and gh.com and jd.com are my two preferred sites for "getting it on" in the world of SW toys!

Jeff
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Playgirl on March 2, 2004, 02:15 AM

Quote

 gh.com and jd.com are my two preferred sites for "getting it on" in the world of SW toys!

Jeff

Quote
agreed  ;)
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Rob L on March 2, 2004, 08:31 AM
Sooo...not sure if our mod friends at RS have been following the thread at the TF.N or not but I'm curious if they've thought about what is being said at all...
Here's a Hypothetical

#1 Someone leaks pics on the Rebelscum forums of Episode 3 Figures
#2 Rebelscum is sent a Cease and Desist...they remove all of
them, ban the perp and move on
#3 2 weeks later, RS's forums leak more pics, already suffering from the last blow, LFL and Hasbro sue Rebelscum and its owner for repeated discretion
#4 Phil, blames the Section moderator and passes said buck to the sorry sap who was working or sleeping at the time, saying it was this guy or gals fault for not catching the spoilers and doing their job.  Oh and by the way, here's their address
Can LF take legal action against non-US citizens? Will I be extradited to stand trial in your country?
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: MisterPL on March 2, 2004, 09:53 AM
Can LF take legal action against non-US citizens?

Yes they can and yes they have.

Will I be extradited to stand trial in your country?

That might depend on the charge. I doubt they'll put you up in The Ranch, though.  ;D
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Deanpaul on March 2, 2004, 09:56 AM
Can LF take legal action against non-US citizens? Will I be extradited to stand trial in your country?

Rob,

That would be one way to get earlier access to the latest Hasbro offerings. :P
Title: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: E.Z. on March 2, 2004, 11:41 AM
Anyone else having problems going to RS? I tried getting in from my bookmark and search links and haven't been able to for the past 24 hours.  ???
Title: Re: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: FX-7 on March 2, 2004, 11:44 AM
Works fine for me...same old **** different day
Title: Re: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: E.Z. on March 2, 2004, 11:44 AM
P.S,

When you get a chance Matt, could you change my feedback name to reflect my user name?.  ;)
Title: Re: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: E.Z. on March 2, 2004, 11:45 AM
Works fine for me...same old **** different day

Really. What on earth is going wrong on my end? Every other site works fine except RS.  ???
Title: Re: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: Scott on March 2, 2004, 11:52 AM
Clear your Temp Internet File folder and Cookies...

Fixed your feedback title too, and I'm going to lock this one ;)
Title: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 10:36 AM
So Rebelscum changed their forums overnight - looks like I'll be doing more of my posting over here...

Because their new forum won't let me post in it.  I get this message:

"The host you are trying to send the input from is not a valid host."

Phillip says:

"I think it has to do with an option about the HTTP Referrer and designed to help make your surfing safe from harmful ads. Which may be true, but it casts such a wide net it gets many valid applications as well."

Anyone know anything about this?  I've got Norton on all my computers - and I don't plan on taking it off any time soon.

Anyone else having problems with their site and it's upgrades?
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Morgbug on April 28, 2004, 11:10 AM
No big difference for me.  Thanks for pointing it out though.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 11:29 AM
I got in with no problem. Right now I'm finding it a little slow right now & I can't find were to update the post indicators. You can now see how many are viewing in the sections & the post counts are back!  ::)  

Very hard on the eyes, to bright.  
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Morgbug on April 28, 2004, 11:31 AM
Yeah, I noted post counts were back too.  Oh well.  

The strangest thing was my pm box had 72 messages in it.  Going back quite a way, some names I don't even recognize, but I traded with them at some point, LOL.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 11:35 AM
It’s a bit slow at the moment :(

Not sure I like the default colours either, but at least  the forum is now skinable.

I got all my old PMs back too…along with about 150 new admin-related ones!
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 11:36 AM
Holy Crap! You can see who's online!  :o
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Deanpaul on April 28, 2004, 11:38 AM
Yucky ducky. I have a feeling more than the threads will be recieving bodily fluids/solids deposits over there.

The slowness of it was most disappointing. Which is alright, because I mostly go there to pick fights... remember what it was like to be in junior high... Heck, I'm not sure why I go there....
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 12:24 PM
So no one else is having any Norton-related problems?  

I can view and manuever around the boards just fine - but when I try to post - nothing works.

Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 12:41 PM
I have Norton and will have to leave  ;) ...can't have a Mod without the ability to post and there's no way I'm turning Norton off :(

Edit: smilies entered in the appropriate places.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 12:48 PM
I have Norton and will have to leave...can't have a Mod without the ability to post and there's no way I'm turning Norton off:(

Did you try posting?  Or are you just going on what I said.

If you tried and it didn't work for you as well, it's safe to say that's probably what it is.

Maybe you could bring it up to phillip or maybe someone here could post a link to this thread in the feedback and suggestions page - because I can't even post to let them know I'm having an issue - the only info I have is from an email to Phillip.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 12:51 PM
Yes, I've actually tried posting...works fine when Norton is disabled.

Edit: can't get into the site at all now - I'll try it out with my other (Non-Norton) machine.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 01:04 PM
I haven't posted yet but refreshing the main forum page, I am getting errors!  

I made a post in the vinty section, had a hell of a time as I previewed my post, my sig was messed up so I had to change it. Took me awhile to do as the page was stalled & sometimes timed out.

I too have been having problems getting into areas the odd times.

I have no Norton related problems though. My is on.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Ook on April 28, 2004, 01:11 PM
Wow, no wonder no ones posting. Looks like no one can, ha! I don't use NIS, and haven't had any probs. Except the slowness.

You know, all those trade feedback threads we have with links to all our feedback are gonna have to be edited with new URLs.......
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 01:19 PM
My in PM's are there but my out going are gone!  (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/YaBBImages/huh.gif)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: JediMAC on April 28, 2004, 01:19 PM
Good God, it looks horrible.   :o  That was the one thing that I still really liked about RS before, was the color scheme and layout.  Looks like crap now.

I also gained about 100 additional incoming PMs that I had long since deleted, which is extremely strange...  If I deleted them over a year and a half ago, how the hell could they have been resurrected, and from where?  Unfortunately, I lost all my saved outgoing PMs though...   :-\

Everything I clicked on was extremely slow too.  Up to almost a minute (on my cable modem at work) for most things.  But on the bright side, I did move up in the world there - from Member #2875 to #1760.  Did they purge a bunch of the inactive folks, I wonder...  Or did things just go that wonky with the switch?

Well, I only wander over there occasionally for trading or store finds, so I guess the eyesore of a new look won't affect me too much...
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 28, 2004, 01:20 PM
I'm pretty sure the forums will still say I'm banned, so,  ;D.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Xander on April 28, 2004, 01:26 PM
Its cluttered and the colors are off and the smiley things look ugly.  And why is it sized so that its smushed in the center of the screen?  I guess it that's normal, but the whole thing looks off.  I guess I'll have to get used to it if I want to enjoy hunting down elusively worthwhile or fun posts.

I can't find any problems I've had with security incompatibilities.  All of my outgoing PMs are gone.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 28, 2004, 01:28 PM
I have to agree with Matt on the look thing it sucks.  I hope they can get it to move faster since its taking a long time for me and I'm on a DSL modem.  A few other things that I don't like about it right now:

You can't edit your post (same thing happen at GH but was eventually fix) (I wonder what Greg(g) is going to do for all of his lists).

All of my sent pms are gone while I got alot of my other older pms back from the deleted file grave.

Also ranks are gone and Post counts are back. ::)

I'm sure there is a lot more once everything starts working.

One thing I like is that I'm now in the top 500 members but one of my old accounts was probally deleted (Old member number 25)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 01:30 PM
Seriously, I can only post with my old PC here. I can no longer use my XP machine OR post from work (which is the majority of occasions).

[edit] woops  :-[
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 01:32 PM
They must have purged something, I'm now member #1477.  

Are you sure Brad!  ;)  

I just checked out Scotts old posts & low & behold, he has an avatar!

Look familiar!  (http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/greggy.jpg)  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Logray2776 on April 28, 2004, 01:36 PM
I dont like it that much, it takes forever for it to load for me, and im on dsl.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 01:38 PM
My biggest problem with it (besides it being ugly, the constant errors, and the fact that I can't post there at all) would be the lack of information per page.

They show like 9 topics per page - and threads go to the next page after what seem slike a very small number of posts - the WAP thread (your stance on it aside) went from an already outrageous 315 pages to over 1100.

Even with the search tool it's pretty much impossible to navigate.

Although I doubt anything will change, if anyone with access could bring up the problems maybe in the feedback section - I'd appreciate it.

Phillip didn't seemed to be concerned at all by the idea that Norton would keep people from being able to get into the forums.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 01:44 PM
They show like 9 topics per page - and threads go to the next page after what seem slike a very small number of posts - the WAP thread (your stance on it aside) went from an already outrageous 315 pages to over 1100.



You can set topics / replies per page in you profile.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 01:51 PM
They show like 9 topics per page - and threads go to the next page after what seem slike a very small number of posts - the WAP thread (your stance on it aside) went from an already outrageous 315 pages to over 1100.



You can set topics / replies per page in you profile.

I was pretty sure you could set topics, but I didn't know you could do replies per page.  good to know - now, if I could just somehow be allowed to actually post...
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Scott on April 28, 2004, 01:53 PM
I believe they have finally moved to the same software GH has been using for over 2 years...I do like that stuff better than the old because I can reduce the number of sections, edit the number of posts on the screen, see who is online etc...that is cool.  Why they are going to a copycat system and not something all new is a little baffling.  
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 28, 2004, 02:04 PM
Update - Apparently I'm unbanned...

You might wanna fix that, I haven't apoligized yet for "making fun of other members... especially making fun of moderators," as Philip Wise put it.

And I won't be apoligizing to Greg(g)/GNT/God, ever.  :-*
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Matt Carroll on April 28, 2004, 02:35 PM
But on the bright side, I did move up in the world there - from Member #2875 to #1760.  Did they purge a bunch of the inactive folks, I wonder...  Or did things just go that wonky with the switch?

I went from Member #3 to Member #7.  :(

Rob, I was playing around and having Norton running on my Win XP system didn't cause any problems with posting for me.

After using this software over at GH for a while now, it's not that big of a deal for me. Hopefully the errors and slowness are only temporary.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jeff on April 28, 2004, 02:41 PM
I logged in just to check and I dropped all the way to member #823 from #1404 (or something like that).

I can't say that I love the color sceme though.  I agree with the others who thought it was too bright.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2004, 02:47 PM
Color me unimpressed personally...

-First the look is horrific.  I felt like I was looking at an atomic bomb detonation.  Very hurtful to the eyes, difficult to read, etc...

-Doesn't fit my screen totally so I now have a horozontal scroll bar that I didn't have before.

-The whole PM thing is frustrating to say the least, as some of us might have been SAVING PM's in our sent box for a specific reason and weren't alerted to this.  

-Did I mention it looks pretty terrible?  

-It's horrifically slow.  I have a great cable connection, and it's literally taking minutes to open pages for me.  This should change I'd hope, but if it doesn't I can safely say my time there will be finished...  I think others will agree with that.


The only thing I can say is that they can change it likely, and they probably will before it's all said and done, but the colors I doubt they bther changing at all.  And those are the biggest eyesore....  

I was expecting something really special actually, but color me unimpressed.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Chris on April 28, 2004, 02:48 PM
I think the look is pretty rough looking, but I am sure they are just getting things set up. I can tell you it was surely a large task upgrading the forum and their will always be bugs to start.

I guess with the announcing of Scum's new forum software and look, I could announce that JediDefender will quite possibly be getting a total site revamp as well as a forum upgrade when the version is released out of Beta. I will start a thread to see what everyone thinks.

Linky (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=4286)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: SilverZ on April 28, 2004, 02:49 PM
Well, it doesn't actually bother me too much, visually. Smilies are rubbish though. Maybe those post counts reappearing will reinvigorate "core members" of the forum there. ::)

I drudged up my account to see if I was even still there, and sure enough, I am. #1709 and haven't posted since 9/17/02.  8) I guess that's the day I graduated.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: SiteC on April 28, 2004, 03:31 PM
Can't say I like it.

Like others have said, its slow, looks bad, and pages arent loading right for me.  Oh well.  Thats just too bad.

Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: BillCable on April 28, 2004, 06:03 PM
Can anybody actually get it right now?  I'm clicking the link on the RS front page and it says I'm not authorized to view the page.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 06:10 PM
About an hour ago I got a message about UBBClassic or something like that.

Sounds like they're working on some more modifications.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: hansolo_506 on April 28, 2004, 06:34 PM
Only one thing to say.............

(http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/cbg.jpg)
WORST WEBPAGE RECONSTRUCTION EVER!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2004, 06:49 PM
I'm getting the same message you are right now Bill.

I can safely say that if some of the MAJOR things aren't worked out (the horozontal scrolling, page load time, etc.) then I'm dumping Scum from my visitation list all together.  The conversation has been on the downward slope since Saga started really...  I rather enjoyed their previous look better, so I'm torn.  The graphics I can stomach, and smilies aren't important to me anyway, but the load time and side-scroll are obnoxious to me.  
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 28, 2004, 08:04 PM
I was just there...It's fine for me...

Pages loading quick...

Tweeked my options to make it all like the Old RS...save the colors...they're a bit bright, but I haven't run into any bugs yet. You know me though...they're coming down the pike.

EDIT: Ran into a bug....Lost all my sent PMs. >:( A couple trades just went flying out the window! >:(

Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Diddly on April 28, 2004, 10:55 PM
Ugh, reminds me of GH. It's the exact same software. I'll repost my complaints since I'm too lazy to rewrite evreything...

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Reminds me a lot of Galactic Hunter... Wait, this is the exact same layout as them!

I think it will take some getting used to, especially with the many paged threads.

Anyone checked the Who's Online thing? Holy cow, no wonder the forums are slow sometimes.

We definately need the old post icons back.

Like I said, it'll just take some getting used to. I'll give it about a week.

Huh? I can't even edit my last post!

And what's with the server time? It's like 7 minutes off of my PC time (I set in to +2, and it says "7:58" while my PC says "7:51". That's gonna drive me insane like it did on another forum I post at...

I just noticed the Member Number changes. I feel so... dirty with a smaller number. Is that going to be fixed?

That being said, I want the time fixed, the original member numbers back, and the Edit feature returned! >:(

All of my old PM's returned as well. WTF???

Quick loads for me...

That's about all I have to say. GO BACK TO THE OLD 'SCUM!!!!!
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Darby on April 28, 2004, 11:21 PM
I don't like it at all.

It's just one more reason not to go there.  The quality of discussion there has been going downhill for a long, long time, but that's not news.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2004, 11:29 PM
I'll be nice.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jesse James on April 29, 2004, 02:22 AM
I hopped in there before bed hoping they'd at least fixed the side-scroll that a lot of us are experiencing...  The end of every topic's cut off for me still and I have to scroll to see the thread in its entirety (like someone posted a damn large pic, but in EVERY thread)...

That's not fixed then, so now I wonder if they're going to bother or if this is how they want it?  I'm done there if that's the case.  I'm not pissing with scrolling in every topic I read for every reply I read.  Might fit some screens but not mine so F it.

Things are slow there too...  I think it's turning a LOT of the people that do participate away right now.

It's at least loading fast now...  Still, I wonder if the fixes are done, and this is it, or what?
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Mikey D on April 29, 2004, 07:16 AM
Not that I post there much anymore, but I checked it out this morning.  Tried to log in and it tells me my password is incorrect.  I logged in again thinking I mistyped and the same thing happened.  My password is either one of two things on all my accounts and since RS is one of the first places I registered, my password is definitely the first one.  I didn't start using the second one until last year.  And you know what, I really don't care.  I could email them and tell them, but I don't see the point.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2004, 08:23 AM
Somewhere along the line, Rebelscum just stopped being fun.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Scott on April 29, 2004, 11:11 AM
I dropped from 156 to 143...I noticed P Diddy Wise is now Member #2 ::)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2004, 11:18 AM
I dropped from 156 to 143...I noticed P Diddy Wise is now Member #2 ::)

Steve Sansweet is member #1 !!
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 29, 2004, 11:37 AM
Great to see that the forum now fits my 800x600 screen :)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2004, 12:28 PM
After all the problems yesterday - it seems like many of them have been worked out (although several still remain).

Also, it wasn't Norton but Symantec running on my work machine - and without changing anything on my end, I'm able to post from work again...so...whatever...
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: JediMAC on April 29, 2004, 02:21 PM
Can't even get in now.  I'm on a cable modem here at the office, and I can't even get their main forum page to load.  No biggie, just entertaining really.

On another note, looks like GH has followed suit and redone their forums as of this morning as well.  Maybe it'll just take some getting used to there, but I liked the old design a little better.  The colors are easier on the eyes now, but I don't think the overall layout/design is as "classy" as it was before.  I'm sure Mike will be tweaking it a little more, so I should probably wait to pass final judgement 'til it's all finished.

Not to mention we're looking into redesigning ours soon (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=4286) too.  Always in motion is the future...of SW collecting forums.   :P
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 29, 2004, 02:36 PM
Can't even get in now.  I'm on a cable modem here at the office, and I can't even get their main forum page to load.  No biggie, just entertaining really.

On another note, looks like GH has followed suit and redone their forums as of this morning as well.  Maybe it'll just take some getting used to there, but I liked the old design a little better.  The colors are easier on the eyes now, but I don't think the overall layout/design is as "classy" as it was before.  I'm sure Mike will be tweaking it a little more, so I should probably wait to pass final judgement 'til it's all finished.

RS has been on & off for awhile this morning.

Ya might want to check out this announcement over at GH Matt.  :-*

New Color Scheme and OTC Forums (http://www.galactichunter.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ANN&Number=65443&Main=65425#Post65443)

I changed mine back to the old way.  ;)  Better on the eyes.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jesse James on April 29, 2004, 03:35 PM
I visited now, and thankfully they did away with the scrolling...

Now I just despise the color scheme, and I'm somewhat peeved at the purging of the member #'s.  Not that it's a HUGE deal by any means, but it's insulting to do away with members who just aren't active and bump people up who AREN'T people who "were there" in the olden CSW days.

I was #1214 I think, and now i'm like in the 600's...  There's something wrong with taking the place of someone who WAS there before me, should he/she decide to return.  Then again, it may have been a necessity to clear out things there so benefit of the doubt and all.  Nonetheless, there's members there didn't deserve bumping up ahead of guys like Dax, Burn, etc...  Maybe just nostalgia on my part, and remembering when the site was a lot more fun because of the people who MADE things fun.

Just my three fiddy...
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2004, 04:06 PM

Now I just despise the color scheme, and I'm somewhat peeved at the purging of the member #'s.  

I actually think there are lots of options for other color schemes you can personalize your settings to use.

It's back up and running and I'm slowly getting used to it... my two peeves now are that the thread most recently posted in doesn't go to the top of the page - and the WAP thread that everyone hates refuses to load - it just times out all the time.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on April 29, 2004, 05:29 PM
I can't stand it. The W&P thread is freaking useless now, and I don't like the little add-ons. It has an ignore feature that doesn't work, and a laundry list too numerous to take the effort and post.

I posted that I'll give  them a week to work out the bugs before I start posting over there again (not that I'm sure they give a flying phuck). It IS difficult so go through such a massive change like that and NOT have problems.

A friend of mine owns a local board here in Dallas, and his upgrade was a nightmare. I had to help with it, and it was headache after headache. We lost 3 days of posts, which pissed everybody off, too.

So, I feel their pain. Upgrading board software is a hard earned way
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: hasek3993 on April 29, 2004, 05:36 PM
thats one of the smaller reasons i came over here, it looks terrible and its real hard to see ANYTHING. oh well  no biggie, ill still check there for trades and props , but  not much else.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2004, 10:40 PM
The W&P thread is freaking useless now

Truer words were never spoken!

 :)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 30, 2004, 11:32 PM
Wow..WAP isn't opening and now I'm getting timed out logging in.

Also...It says "The forum is being moved to another server. Back soon."


So...What's your take on this?
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on May 1, 2004, 12:17 AM
Wow..WAP isn't opening and now I'm getting timed out logging in.

Also...It says "The forum is being moved to another server. Back soon."


So...What's your take on this?

The WAP thread has been having some trouble - but was working fine for me today.

As for the new server thing - I assume it means just that - they're changing servers - probably as part of working out the bugs.

Title: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on June 11, 2004, 05:44 PM
I don't know why, but I started a thread at Rebelscum on a new topic related to a very old thread.  I felt it was a good enough subject to warrant it's own thread, but one of the mods, who seems to enjoy his post, deemed my thread crap and gave the old standard "use the other thread" line.

I guess I wouldn't have been as ticked off about it, but to me it was a viable topic.  You would think there would be some system in line to have a mod email the person that started the thread and have them give reasons why it should or shouldn't be closed.

I guess I wouldn't have been as ticked off about it, but this same mod starts all these absolutely inane threads in other parts of the Scum forum.

Am I the only one that is really starting to get tired with how Scum seems to be going to someplace warmer in a container carried by hand?

Is that why we are all over here at JD?

(Jumping off my soapbox now.. someone else can jump on)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2004, 05:49 PM
Is that why we are all over here at JD?

Um...  BINGO!   ;)  And most of us have been for quite some time.  Not that we don't all love Greg(g) dearly though.   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 11, 2004, 06:03 PM
Frankly... Rebelscum sucks.

I'm honored to say I'm banned from their site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SilverZ on June 11, 2004, 06:18 PM
RS is like a bad memory of my Freshman year of High School - nothing I need to experience again.

I'm glad you brought this up because I was thinking of starting a similar thread about people's division of time posting on all the major boards. I'm curious how people divide their time - do folks here still post at all at RS? At GH? Do you guys find yourselves having the same conversations twice if posting at more than one place, or are there differences that keep you in those communities?

I haven't posted at RS since GH opened - the maturity level scared me away even before the rule of GNT, and now I don't post at GH simply because I feel I get my fill here. I don't even cruise and lurk like I used to, with the exception of checking the local area reports. That's just how I manage to focus my attention - GH has always been cool.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2004, 06:26 PM
I'm glad you brought this up because I was thinking of starting a similar thread about people's division of time posting on all the major boards.

Other boards (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=1341).   ;)

(feel free to give it a bump, if you'd like)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SilverZ on June 11, 2004, 06:37 PM
(feel free to give it a bump, if you'd like)

Looks like it's been done to death, so I'll take a pass.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jokabofe on June 11, 2004, 06:37 PM
since i found this place, i rarely post over at rs, and i never signed up at gh (at least i don't think i did. if i did, i may have posted once or twice.).

the only sections i even check at rs anymore are the classifieds.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 11, 2004, 06:45 PM
I think that is one of the stuipid things about RS.  There is no set rule on how long an old topic should stay un-bump and a new topic started (except now with the 500 post limits).  I have't posted a lot on Scum lately for a number of reasons some of them being Greg(g) and Greg(g) Jr but I enjoy the stuipdity of they fights they have.  I also have posted alot over at GH since the War and politics thread was moved there and the whole mess of people went over there.  I'm just glad JD has said no politics allowed with some exceptions to help ensure nothing gets out of hand before anything starts.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 11, 2004, 06:59 PM
I'll ocassionaly post at Rebelscum, but not much. I have something in mind though for this summer. Go out with a bang (shout out to Greg(g) who is no doubt reading this) I think. That place is going to be a mad house come the DVD influx anyway.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Darby on June 11, 2004, 07:29 PM
I don't post there much anymore.  I don't post here as much as I used to, only because I've been so dang busy lately.  But RS hasn't been a fun environment for a long while, which is why I migrated happily over here.   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 11, 2004, 07:40 PM
Isn't there already a 'scum-bashing thread around here? Let's close this one. :P

I have't posted a lot on Scum lately for a number of reasons some of them being Greg(g) and Greg(g) Jr but I enjoy the stuipdity of they fights they have.

Okay, who's "Greg(g) Jr?"

I haven't been to the RS forums in quite some time. Before I left I instigated some of the rules there but didn't care for the way they were (or weren't) being enforced. Too many absentee mods for my taste and powermad vigilantes who don't understand the rules they do have enough to adhere to them themselves.

I guess that's why I like JD; the consistency in moderation. It's really friendly, by design, by reputation, and by example.

GH is a different animal altogether. The BHC is like a favorite shirt; worn but comfortable. If I had to compare the three boards I'd do it like this:

BHC = VH1 (mostly the stuph I grew up with)
JD = MTV (the beat of the modern collector)
RS = Nickelodeon (juvenile content, mostly a place for kids)

(Or maybe the BHC is my sit-down diner, JD is my favorite fastfood drive thru, and RS is frickin' Chuck E. Cheese's. I don't know...)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 11, 2004, 07:47 PM
RS is frickin' Chuck E. Cheese's. I don't know...)

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rofl.gif)  Sorry, this one got me in tears!  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2004, 08:29 PM
Isn't there already a 'scum-bashing thread around here? Let's close this one.  :P

Yeah, there might be "a few" floating around here...   :P

But I should point out that when a pretty identical topic pops up here at JD that we've already had before, a couple of us mods with a good memory may be inclined to hit the ol' (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/merge.gif) button (which RS doesn't have), and just slap it right onto the end of the prior one.  We certainly don't expect folks to go looking for the older topics though, and it definitely doesn't bother us in the slightest to merge them, since it's quite simple really, as long as it's cool with the new thread's author, which we'll usually verify.   ;)

That said, I won't be merging this one with any of the older RS "constructive criticism" threads.  Maybe someday down the road I'll create a master "The Official Rebelscum Appreciation Society", and just merge 'em ALL in there.  How'd that be, eh?   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 11, 2004, 09:15 PM
How'd that be, eh?

Almost sound like your a Canadian Eh! Good day. Eh!  :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jadesfire on June 11, 2004, 10:07 PM
 The prop forum at RS is actually pretty good.  There are a few pissing contests between a few members but the mod (I think it's JOSHEE, but I'm not sure) keeps it under control.  Mostly everyone respects each other’s opinions and it's just a more mature atmosphere.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Morgbug on June 11, 2004, 10:33 PM
I poke my head into the vintage forums at RS.  Use it for the buy/sell/trade aspect and post when I'm feeling contentious, but that's not terribly often or unless someone is being really dumb about something I know a lot about.  

GH is cool, but I just never really got into it that much.  I like it.  A lot.  But...

I like JD better mostly because I know more people here and it is like Cheers.  It's cliquey as all hell, but that's ok, cuz I'm at least part way in.  

Snowtroopers eats up a fair bit of my time too, but second to JD.  It gained a bit of a younger edge with the switch and Koda seemed to get bored/tired so I spend more time here.  Still loyal to it though.  

Face it, I'm old.  I like adult conversation and don't feel any need to be threatened by a pissant 13 year old on daddy's computer ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2004, 11:38 PM
...cuz I'm at least part way in.

Exactly what makes you think that?!   ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Ben on June 11, 2004, 11:48 PM
I go to RS mostly for the Area Reports (as if there was much to report here) and sometimes I'll stick my head in Wuher's, but it's like a grade school cafeteria sometimes.

I forgot my password for GH, and haven't been to the forums since my computer had a little 'accident'. The e-mail I signed up with there is no longer active, and I don't feel like a reregister.

I like this place. You guys put up with my lameass wit. I appreciate that. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2004, 12:10 AM
I haven't cared much for Rebelscum since last November, when I was permanently banned.  (Henrik, Obi-Rat, Gregggggg, and Phil--you guys can suck my ass.)

I still miss posting over there sometimes, though.  The sheer amount of morons that continue to do their business over there deserve a good beating every so often, but unfortunately, there's not too many people left at Rebelscum to dole out the punishment.

As for Galactic Hunter, well, I think that most of the people over there suck (both mods and members), so I kind of stopped posting over there, too, about the same time last year

JD has pretty much been the only Star Wars-based forum I've posted at in months (with the exception of my ultra lame-ass, Oklahoma City-based "collector's club", Jedi OKC (http://www.jediokc.com)).

I think (and I mean this in all honesty) that if Mr. Pearson wasn't involved with JD, that I'd give up posting on Star Wars sites altogether.  

It's just not fun like it used to be.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 12, 2004, 12:45 AM
Don't make me love you :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Morgbug on June 12, 2004, 12:53 AM
...cuz I'm at least part way in.

Exactly what makes you think that?!   ::)

Pr*ck.

Enough people still talk to me.  You don't count :-*

I think Virex speaking of pricks is just sad because Mainland hasn't been around to kick lately.  Tell me I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 12, 2004, 12:56 AM
Actually, I think I'm the only 'youngin' to make the cross over and stay. Maybe that's why I feel so alienated  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2004, 12:58 AM
Rebelscum is a ghost town nowadays...

but you all already knew that...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2004, 01:00 AM
Actually, Mainland0 Calrissian getting a job at McDonald's is right up there with Duthro stepping down as a mod, and Fanboy stepping down entirely, as one of the best things that's ever happened to this forum, in my opinion.

I'm lovin' it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Morgbug on June 12, 2004, 01:06 AM
Nice segue-ish thing going there.  Place of employment plus the catch phrase.  Very nice.  

Ok.  I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2004, 01:22 AM
Nice segue-ish thing going there.  Place of employment plus the catch phrase.  Very nice.

You like that?  I kinda like that, myself.  

Thanks.  

Quote
Ok.  I'm wrong.

Well, you are probably a little bit right.

Maybe it's kind of like when the old family cat that you love to torment the hell out of for not using the litterbox dies --  on one hand, you're glad the house doesn't smell like cat piss anymore, but on the other hand, you kind of miss kicking him around afterwards.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jesse James on June 12, 2004, 01:47 AM
Rebelscum's better than a lot of places...  That much I can say for them, and they do have some good staff and good mods there, they're just not filled with them, and my #1 issue would be...

They don't handle ANY actual problems they have.

It's cool they hired GNT to "give him a try" but to say his work there is anything above unacceptable is to give him entirely too much credit/sympathy.  And this is coming from someone who doesn't actually despise him as a hypocrite...  I try giving the benefit of the doubt.

I just see him as NOT being good at his "job" as it were.  You can't be with his personality...  Same can be said for a lot of people deemed moderator at a TON of sites.  Some people don't have the right personality for it because it requires you to bite your tongue in public a LOT.  To me, moderators aren't people you hire based on their activity in a forum, but their quality of posts...  You gotta ask "how often does this guy cause friction or reply to friction?", and understandably (myself included) a lot of people get into debates/arguments at forums.  It's the nature of people.

That said, I still go to Scum...  I've always obeyed their rules (the few times I've been "reprimanded" by staff there were out of line IMO, and not by their best staff), and I enjoy parts of their forums...  They're nothing of what they were when I started at CSW though.  They're a shell of that level of quality by far.

I go to GH.com too of course, but it's not what CSW was.  That's sad too because I was really hoping it would be.  I used to not go to GH.com much at all because I had dial-up and their site loads slowly even on Cablenet for me...  Dial-up then was attrocious.

Good guys there though for the most part, and even disagreements are usually handled tactfully.  

Of course, this is my home and I've found it to have the most interesting activity and the most interesting people.  We don't have too many conflicts, and when we do the staff's able to talk about them openly to get a resolution to it.  God knows we've had that problem in the past (not recently, knock on wood).  

Scum's got good people at it though, for all its negative attention right now...  With a swift kick in the collective ass of their admin (no offense), it could be better, but I don't foresee this so I'm happily away from there as my SW "home" permanently.  Still fun to stop in, and like Virex said there's definitely some people there that need shaken up once in a while.  For every great member there there are 2 or 3 bad members that just have terrible opinions.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 12, 2004, 02:35 AM
Oh AngryEwok...I miss you so...
Still have my sig line down there.

I haven't 'Made the Cross' here, but I do drop in from time to time...I like RS, mainly because of the Look What I found Section...I also like the EU sections, and Wuhers has a couple nice threads...occasionally.

RS has changed since I joined though...It was nice being a newb. I never noticed so much baiting, trolling and flaming...Must be hard running and Internet forum, photo Archive, collection engine, and news website all at once though. I don't blame Philip, or any Admin for getting pissy.

I haven't had any run-ins with mods...at least none I can remember, so I really don't have any reason to dislike them. Which is nice...Cause I can space myself from all this Anti-GNT, anti Obi-robz, anti-JoshEEE stuff.

It is getting annoying there though...so many people are too proud of their posting, and it's a shame they read with the attitude they do...I often think RS would be a much greater community if there were better ways to convey emotion in posts.

And the new members are getting annoying...I can think of a few, and a few oldies that are getting weird lately....

Trade Forums are nice though...same as area reports...Customizing section is busy too...Nice to see customs...but when there is a bad one, even constructive criticism is frowned upon...weird. You've got to say 'Great job!' or 'Looking nice' even if the figure looks like crap.

But I'm afraid ,that with my luck, when I decide to come over here for the majority, most Scummers wil decide that too, and these boards will get warped too. Shame...I'll probably just stop posting a bit after I reach Grand Moff... There's not much to talk about now...

And I'll probably come around for Ep3, but it'll be a newbie frenzy and that'll make it a sucky time.


I know you guys, at least most of you, hate me because of my childish rants, and useless posts, but maybe I'm not so bad after all.

No hard feelings? Wow...It's been awhile since I've seen AngryEwok PM me that.  :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SiteC on June 12, 2004, 03:29 AM
I just don't post all that much anymore, anywhere.  I actually have a job now which eats alot of my time.  And when I do get online, i don't want to waste my time posting things that nobody gives a **** about.  I've found unless you are part of the 'in' clique at 'Scum, most of your posts and comments go largely ignored.  So why contribute at all?

The problem I have with members over there is the fact everyone is so damn negative all the time about everything.  Of course then we have GNT with his 10 trillion post count, which is just...scary.  The site is good for news and thats about it.  And even then GH beats them most of the time, plus has better photo archives and what not.

so whatever.  I don't really care much.  I do give Scum credit though, at least their forums are not as horrid as TFN boards.  I cannot even stand that site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 12, 2004, 03:54 AM
Ah, heck.  No hard feelings Justin.  And I don't think anyone hates you.  I'm sure some folks think you're a bit "nutty" at times, but that's no big deal.  Probably the thing that would irritate folks is the comment about reaching Grand Moff, since nobody here really cares about post counts/rankings.  But it's been fun watching you youngin's "grow" over the past year or two.  Seems like some pretty good improvements from a number of you guys since back when you first started.  More content and quality in the posts, and I'm not just speaking about you.  Keep at it, and someday you may just be mentioned in the same breath as studs like Jesse James, mosnab, Morgbug, Tydirium, and even OCB!   8)

Anyway, that's all we really look for here at JD - quality and content.  So don't get too down on yourself.  Just have fun on the boards, and enjoy your collecting, and you should be just fine.  JD will always be here, and feel free to drop in to our SoCal thread from time to time too!  I'm always interested in what's hanging around in my old stomping grounds of OC, and a few of us still make pretty frequent trips down there.

And if there is a pretty big Ep. 3 bum rush on the forums, including here at JD, we'll be ready for it.  We've got some of the best mods in the business here, so I think we'll be able to handle it and keep things running smoothly here at Cheers...   ;)

But some people have brought up some valid points about RS here.  There are still a few mature and/or worthwhile sections over at RS, that are good for a look and some decent conversation and helpful information IMO.  Most notably the Vintage, Customs, and Props forums comes to mind, which not-so-coincidentally are the boards that have the "older" collectors participating in them.  Then of course, with the sheer multitude of people over there, the Store Reports and Classifieds can be helpful too.

Of course, they still have Greg(g) there, so he kinda offsets some of those positives...   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 12, 2004, 11:42 AM
Isn't there already a 'scum-bashing thread around here? Let's close this one. :P

I have't posted a lot on Scum lately for a number of reasons some of them being Greg(g) and Greg(g) Jr but I enjoy the stuipdity of they fights they have.

Okay, who's "Greg(g) Jr?"



Durge, he seems to be going for the rank of emperor now and has gotten this whole thing were he thinks he is a mod or something over there.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2004, 01:18 PM
Isn't there already a 'scum-bashing thread around here? Let's close this one. :P

I have't posted a lot on Scum lately for a number of reasons some of them being Greg(g) and Greg(g) Jr but I enjoy the stuipdity of they fights they have.

Okay, who's "Greg(g) Jr?"



Durge, he seems to be going for the rank of emperor now and has gotten this whole thing were he thinks he is a mod or something over there.  

Truer words have yet to be spoken...the dude chimes in on every single topic that doesn't interest him with something along the lines of "this doesn't interest me very much one way or the other" - end post.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 12, 2004, 03:23 PM
WTF? That is not true at all. This threads does not interest me... Bye.


 ;D


I am beginning to hate RS because of GNT. He is by far the biggest jackass I have ever come into contact with. At least I have interest in the things I post. He lives in Australia and posts in threads about Weekends or Celebration 3.

I do nothing wrong. There are just a few ******* who seem to think that since I have a "high" post count, I'm just screwing with everyone and I don't actually have interest in what I post. Listen up you **** heads!

 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 12, 2004, 03:25 PM
Oh and about the mod accusation... I don't want to be moderator, I just believe that if someone does something wrong and they are not reprimanded, then their peers should step in and let them know.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 12, 2004, 03:48 PM
 But it's been fun watching you youngin's "grow" over the past year or two.  Seems like some pretty good improvements from a number of you guys since back when you first started.  More content and quality in the posts, and I'm not just speaking about you.  Keep at it, and someday you may just be mentioned in the same breath as studs like Jesse James, mosnab, Morgbug, Tydirium, and even OCB!   8)


I doubt we (the young ones) will ever be able to occupy the same space as you guys. Ya'll are legends.

Now something I fear for the coming year is a large amount of trolling, stupid threads, and an increased number of people. I suppose a slight touch of isolationism could hypotheticaly come into play next year, but, really the ideas at JD are shared so many places it wouldn't work.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Dark_Kanos on June 12, 2004, 03:57 PM
Lets see I belong to Jedi Defender's forums and Rebelscum's! Rebelscum has been great except for a few dumb people! Replies are very good very and updated a lot and here it seems like when every I post people just ignore it and I feel awful by posting it!  8) Just my words!  8)  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 12, 2004, 04:04 PM
Well Ben I'm sorry you feel ignored but keep in mind you haven't even posted 10 times yet.  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2004, 05:13 PM
here it seems like when every I post people just ignore it and I feel awful by posting it!

I feel awful by you posting it.

One forum just isn't enough to sh!t on--let's all come over to Jedi Defender and sh!t all over their forums, too.  My idocy shouldn't be limited just to one forum!
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 12, 2004, 06:06 PM
here it seems like when every I post people just ignore it and I feel awful by posting it!

I feel awful by you posting it.

One forum just isn't enough to sh!t on--let's all come over to Jedi Defender and sh!t all over their forums, too.  My idocy shouldn't be limited just to one forum!
I'm beginning to see why people like you.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Muftak on June 12, 2004, 06:45 PM
I enjoy their diorama section. A lot of nice (not to mention talented) fellows in there.

Otherwise, meh...I like the atmosphere here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 12, 2004, 07:35 PM
The only things about RS that I find to be "better" than JD are:

-Vintage Community
-Other Collectibles Community
-Prop Community
-Customizing Communtiy
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2004, 10:36 PM
The only things about RS that I find to be "better" than JD are:

-Vintage Community
-Other Collectibles Community
-Prop Community
-Customizing Communtiy

I'm pretty sure blasphemy such as this is grounds for dismissal under the Jedi Defender Superiority Decree.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on June 12, 2004, 10:57 PM
JD could definitely use a more dedicated prop crowd, as well as other collectibles. Should we start recruiting? Let's start by NOT recruiting a certain little stone.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 12, 2004, 11:10 PM
The only things about RS that I find to be "better" than JD are:

-Vintage Community
-Other Collectibles Community
-Prop Community
-Customizing Communtiy

I'm pretty sure blasphemy such as this is grounds for dismissal under the Jedi Defender Superiority Decree.


"Uh-oh!"
-Peter Griffin (Wish Upon a Weinstein)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DoctorPadawan on June 13, 2004, 11:24 AM
This pretty much sums up my feelings on the RS forums: I registered for the RS forums before the CSW absorption took place, and reregistered there when that occurred.  In the five years or so I was registered there, I made about 45-50 posts total.  By way of comparison, since I've been on JD's boards, I've made almost that many posts in the last six months.  I'm a veteran of the old Usenet rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting* newsgroups, and to say that Usenet was much more friendly and mature than RS's boards is really saying something.

I just didn't get any feeling of community with RS's boards.  It all seemed like one big pissing contest with nobody being all that willing to help others out.  On RASSC, we pretty much all knew each other on some level (or at least knew of each other), it was very communal, and even if we didn't care for a particular person, there was still a mutual respect.  I made some lasting friendships from RASSC, but when the great newsgroup split proposal failed in 1999, I made my exit.  I still keep in touch with many of those people, but the newsgroup as a community pretty much died.

With RS, as I said, it's more about "my dad can beat up your dad", if that makes any sense.  It's all about "RS just put up photos of something a guy in Timbuktu found in a yard sale...f**k you, other SW toy sites!"  Or, in more recent cases, and not a direct quote, "JD has had a report about who an exclusive figure is for the last week, but since they're not a 'reputable' website, we're going to ignore it and act like it's news only when *we* post about it!"  As someone else in the thread said earlier, it does have the feel of a cafeteria in high school, with people doing everything in the world to undercut everyone else. To quote the films, and cement my nerd status, "there is no civility, only politics."

(at this point I made some rather inflammatory comments about certain moderators whose name ends in one or two "G"'s, but to avoid any problems, I have deleted that portion of the original post)

As for moderators and site admins, that's another reason I don't go to RS anymore.  After the mess with the TFN boards (how did that work out, by the way?), I'm done patronizing Philip Wise's sites at all.  I went over a few minutes ago to see what had happened to the RS forums (I hadn't seen the changes that had been made) and just started laughing.  I still remember Wiseacres.com, Philip; way to sell out the entire fan community you claimed to love so much.   :P

As for other sites, I take my hat off to the fine folks at JD, Yakface, and GH.com.  You're all doing fine work, and you should be proud.  RS, may you fade into obscurity and be forgotten completely.


Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 13, 2004, 03:29 PM
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Oh and about the mod accusation... I don't want to be moderator,

I've found in life that it's very easy for one to say that one does not "want" a job after one "applies" for it and is rejected.  ;)


Sorry, but blatant dishonesty bugs me a bit.


Anyhoo.....I've read through this thread (as I always do) and suppose my response is the same as it always is. I really like this place a lot, and I like that place a lot too. I obviously balance the majority of my posting over there....but I do visit here quite often.

As far as collecting goes, RS still benefits me the most because of the traffic it gets to the classifieds, look what I found and trading sections. It's just unreal how fast you can get responses to certain requests.....and tons of Seattle-area collectors help each other out over there. I've tried to start Seattle threads on other boards, but for some reason....we're just all based at RS.

As for the off topic chat sections, yeah...I totally agree there is a much more mature theme over here, and that's why I pop by and just read even if I'm not posting all the time.

Sure, there are a lot of silly topics and discussions that run themselves into the ground, but that's going to happen at bigger places. It would definitely be nice to have a higher active moderator to member ratio (especially so I don't have to be the dick that closes every lame thread down when it gets reported), but ultimately that's not up to me.


That....and I still love the fact you can say "ass" here.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 13, 2004, 03:43 PM
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Oh and about the mod accusation... I don't want to be moderator,

I've found in life that it's very easy for one to say that one does not "want" a job after one "applies" for it and is rejected.  ;)

Uh....when was this?! ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 13, 2004, 04:45 PM
To be fair, I think that was back in January.....and I'm sure a lot could have changed since then.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Chris on June 13, 2004, 04:52 PM
Durge, you have made a few comments that I find to be pretty inaccurate. If you are going to bash GNT, make sure it is intelligent. Saying that he is the "biggest jackass" because he never posted in the religious and political threads is just stupid. If you want to stay out of a flame war (in most cases), you're a jackass?

Your coming over to this site thinking you are some in house name is somewhat annoying with the backup of not-so-intelligent posts that you have already made. A little bit more respect in your posts would make more sense.

Josh, thanks for coming and stating your thoughts, always nice to have someone who can balance and not be a fool. I do want to comment though, I think it is a cop out to say because Scum is a large(r) forum that it is too hard to moderate at times. Scum fails in the forum dept. as a whole (IMO) because the adminstrators can't make solid decisions and implement them.

Thanks ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2004, 05:05 PM
Here! Here!
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Diddly on June 13, 2004, 05:07 PM
I only visit RS for the main page news and the photo archives. I no longer post in the forums because the members act like babies, and for just about every reason listed already. Plus, I HATE the new look.

JD is the only SW forum I post at now. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 13, 2004, 05:33 PM
Durge, you have made a few comments that I find to be pretty inaccurate. If you are going to bash GNT, make sure it is intelligent. Saying that he is the "biggest jackass" because he never posted in the religious and political threads is just stupid. If you want to stay out of a flame war (in most cases), you're a jackass?

You're coming over to this site thinking you are some in house name is somewhat annoying with the backup of not-so-intelligent posts that you have already made. A little bit more respect in your posts would make more sense.

Josh, thanks for coming and stating your thoughts, always nice to have someone who can balance and not be a fool. I do want to comment though, I think it is a cop out to say because Scum is a large(r) forum that it is too hard to moderate at times. Scum fails in the forum dept. as a whole (IMO) because the adminstrators can't make solid decisions and implement them.

Thanks ;D

Yeah, I thought the same thing so I deleted the post. No need to be rude about it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SWcollectorDUDE on June 13, 2004, 06:27 PM
Well I think scum is kinda cool, but lets be honest most of them are just jerks.  I mean who runs the place a 60yr old rich guy.  I mean he cares about nothing but hsi money.  Most forums care about losing a member even just one, but they enjoy banning their members.  It's not just you but it's also annoying when you go to make a post, and thre is only posts from each day.  With such a large community it is a pain in the ass to search for a thread you made under a week ago.  I honeslty don't post too much, but I do have another forum over this one.  I just joined I hope people here are nicer then scum, and not to cause trouble but galactichunter has a lot of mean people who start flames.  Sometimes not funny just immature.  I go to another forum but I won't even post a link here I don't want to take members away from this site.  Not that it would most site just don't tolerate any links.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SWcollectorDUDE on June 13, 2004, 06:31 PM
To be fair, I think that was back in January.....and I'm sure a lot could have changed since then.  :)
Scum has been up since 95 so 9 years and only changes since january?
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Chris on June 13, 2004, 07:15 PM
Durge, you have made a few comments that I find to be pretty inaccurate. If you are going to bash GNT, make sure it is intelligent. Saying that he is the "biggest jackass" because he never posted in the religious and political threads is just stupid. If you want to stay out of a flame war (in most cases), you're a jackass?

You're coming over to this site thinking you are some in house name is somewhat annoying with the backup of not-so-intelligent posts that you have already made. A little bit more respect in your posts would make more sense.

Josh, thanks for coming and stating your thoughts, always nice to have someone who can balance and not be a fool. I do want to comment though, I think it is a cop out to say because Scum is a large(r) forum that it is too hard to moderate at times. Scum fails in the forum dept. as a whole (IMO) because the adminstrators can't make solid decisions and implement them.

Thanks ;D

Yeah, I thought the same thing so I deleted the post. No need to be rude about it.

Not rude, just frank.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2004, 09:32 PM
Not rude, just frank.  :)

I don't think Durge is going to be around to respond, Chris Berry--sadly, he's deleted his account.  :(

How are the rest of us supposed to continue?

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 13, 2004, 09:39 PM
Durge is gone? No. No you're all lying...

I can't talk right now.  :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 13, 2004, 09:42 PM
I noticed he deleted his account too.  :(
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2004, 09:52 PM
Durge is gone? No. No you're all lying...

I can't talk right now.  :'(

Dude, it took me two hours just to compose my above reply.

My tears briefly shorted out my keyboard.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 13, 2004, 10:54 PM
 This is Jangofettish all over again!

I feel so dirty for even posting in this thread! :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2004, 10:59 PM
Might as well close the whole site down now... I'm sure 80% of the members here will follow Durge right back over to the scum...  :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2004, 11:11 PM
I'm sure 80% of the members here will follow Durge right back over to the scum...  :-\

The Durge is my shepherd; I shall not want.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Chris on June 13, 2004, 11:11 PM
Note to self: Follow Durge.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 04:17 AM
He's gone already? Man that was fast. Is he banned here too?  ;D

Either way....Durge sent me this PM but because he was gone, I couldn't reply to his message. Apparently, I hit the wrong reply button (above his) and BDW got a nice suprise from me this evening and wondered if HE'D been banned from RS.  :)

THEN...to make matters worse I attempted to reply to one of the hundreds of posts Durge has reported in his previous days at scum that I still had in email, but forgot that the new system over there sends the reply to the admins instead of the person who reported the post.

So now about a half dozen people have seen the same stupid message I tried to send to Durge.

Because of this fiasco, I have now decided that Durge is the center of all evil in the universe....and I shall never reply to him again on ANY site.

Or maybe I'll just get some sleep because it's 1am out here, and my judgement is a little impaired.  ;)

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jkno on June 14, 2004, 05:14 AM
I only visit RS for the main page news and the photo archives. I no longer post in the forums because the members act like babies, and for just about every reason listed already. Plus, I HATE the new look.

JD is the only SW forum I post at now. :)

not all memebers are childish. :) I still go there to watch the Action fleet section, trade and classifieds sections and somketimes Wuher. And recently Trade Feedback section.

I sort of like the new look, especially the Favorite threads option. That is COOL!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jesse James on June 14, 2004, 05:42 AM
If Durge is to read this, for whatever reason (I don't believe he is banned here Josh...  Not yet anyway, unless Chris did so without mentioning it or it showing up on his name there), I figured I'd make a post so he doesn't feel so harshly treated.

Like Chris said, it was more brutal honesty than harshness.

I've watched Durge and GNT go back and forth at each other, and while a lot of people give you props for not "taking it" from GNT (which nobody should have to), they also don't respect the WAY either of you post.

I'm not saying myself here...  I was indifferent, and part of me liked seeing GNT get pissed off at, more or less, looking in a mirror.

But by that very statement, it's not a complement on your posting habits Durge.  Unfortunately you weren't there before GNT became a mod, if I'm correct, and it's your posting habits now that are the reason a LOT of people don't respect GNT in the first place.

He basically did (and often still does) the same things you were.  Reporting posts when it isn't his job to "police" people posting...  posting no matter when/where to seemingly just have one more post (quantity over quality for short).

Again, I ignored GNT's behavior as just the type of guy he was...  I only clashed with him when he clashed with me directly, which wasn't terribly often.  Others though, disliked GNT because he simply wasn't someone whose opinion really struck you as "great".  You didn't look forward to his latest reply.  It was filler most of the time.

You were becoming similar to a lot of people.  I know this only because I've heard the same rumblings arise towards you as towards GNT in his early days.

The rumblings towards GNT now are of a different nature...  They more directly annoy people than before.  They're worse, admittedly.

With that said...

I think it's laughable for Scum to ban Durge and not GNT.  Their decision, but when you ban one who acts one way, you're obligated to ban the other who baited or reacted right alongside the one you banned.  That would be GNT to me.

I'm not saying either should've been banned, but I hold to the fact GNT should be de-modded and they BOTH should be made settle down or face being kicked out.

It's just Durge at GNT's throat over there though.  That little feud worked the opposite direction every thread I ever saw.

It's important to stand by your staff, but it's more important to hire the right people in the first place I think.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 14, 2004, 01:37 PM
I had brown rice for the first time last night and I'm never going back.  The new experience contributed to me missing the RS Durge showdown.  Hell.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 03:19 PM
Hi guys...Meesa back. I feel I need to clear the air about certain things. I might as well just keep this account as I know there will be some backlash. This place isn't so bad. ;) So the deal over at RS is that I've been banned for 30 days. I'm not sure if the reason should be discussed over here, but I can tell you that it had nothing to do with my posting habits, "moderating", etc. There was no "episode" in which I created a thread to flame a certain member that was locked, or something like that. It was a quiet "inside" kind of thing.

I guess I might as well post here until the sentence has drawn out. Who knows? Maybe this place will grow on me. Everyone else seems to really like it here. :)

-Durge :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 04:18 PM
Thirty days? That's steep. Must've really pissed someone off. Well done.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2004, 04:34 PM
I guess I might as well post here until the sentence has drawn out.

Smart move, Philip - give him to us for thirty days... That'll teach us to post pics of you in your fishing attire.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 04:40 PM
Imagine the trouble THIS image could generate:

(http://www.wiseacres.com/pwoffice1.jpg)

I'm thinking that board in the back should have a list of the banned, suspended, and otherWISE disenfranchised.  ;D

(Or maybe a priority list of some kind, with the forums coming in dead last.)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2004, 04:43 PM
I'd be interested in seeing a list of the members (specifically those of us here at JD) who have been banned from Rebelscum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 04:49 PM
Thirty days? That's steep. Must've really pissed someone off. Well done.  :)

Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

Angry Ewok, you should ask GNT to make a list. He's good at making lists. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=815861&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#815861) ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 04:51 PM
Might as well close the whole site down now... I'm sure 80% of the members here will follow Durge right back over to the scum...  :-\

Aww, that's nice. It's good to know you're loved. :'( <---Tears of joy.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 04:54 PM
Thirty days? That's steep. Must've really pissed someone off. Well done.  :)

Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

Angry Ewok, you should ask GNT to make a list. He's good at making lists. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=815861&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#815861) ::)
Just don't dare to make your own list (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=753626&Forum=f36&Words=checklist&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=753626&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post753626)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 04:54 PM
Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

With sincere admiration. I'd love to know what instigated the ban, but that's your business.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 04:56 PM
I'd be interested in seeing a list of the members (specifically those of us here at JD) who have been banned from Rebelscum.

I haven't (yet)!   ;D  I've only been warned once so far by Philip, for correcting Greg(g)'s dumb ass one too many times...   ::)

It's most amusing how much that little butt turd gets protected over there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 05:00 PM
I've been threatened thrice but never banned...also been told off by Dave and Jeremy a couple of times :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 05:00 PM
Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

John's never sarcastic.  Nor is he ever an instigator.  Hell, he's not even at large right now...   8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 05:04 PM
Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

With sincere admiration. I'd love to know what instigated the ban, but that's your business.


Lies, deceit, and the creation of mistrust. ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 05:05 PM
Just don't dare to make your own list (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=753626&Forum=f36&Words=checklist&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=753626&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post753626)

Did Greg's cousing Gregg ever actually lock that checklist Scott?  You should just keep updating it to annoy him, if not.   8)

Your list was up first, anyway!
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2004, 05:05 PM
Thirty days? That's steep. Must've really pissed someone off. Well done.  :)

Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

Angry Ewok, you should ask GNT to make a list. He's good at making lists. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=815861&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#815861) ::)
Just don't dare to make your own list (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=753626&Forum=f36&Words=checklist&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=753626&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post753626)

This post is nolonger needed, the forum has a GNT post which contains all the crap released in the JD.com line, it can be found here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=3152)

Remember, please post ONLY in the ONE AND ONLY ONE "approved" thread, started by me in the middle of the night.

God.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 05:07 PM
Just don't dare to make your own list (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=753626&Forum=f36&Words=checklist&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=753626&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post753626)

Did Greg's cousing Gregg ever actually lock that checklist Scott?  You should just keep updating it to annoy him, if not.   8)

Your list was up first, anyway!
Yeah he locked it...KBZ and I were plotting at the time to post it before he could get it up.  He came in like a month or two later and locked because he had to have the official one
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 05:08 PM
Lies, deceit, and the creation of mistrust. ;)

Oo, I love it.  :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 05:10 PM
You know what's spooky about that Picture of Gregg's cousin Greg...all evidence that led us to him has been erased from existence...the last place finish in the race, his mom looking for long lost relatives, his fellow Aussie High school chum's message boards, its all gone.  Its like he never existed :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 05:11 PM
Come on guys. Greg only does it to help the collectors. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to see his name at the top of every page.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2004, 05:19 PM
Come on guys. Greg only does it to help the collectors. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to see his name at the top of every page.

(http://members.aol.com/browrob549/emo/happy001.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2004, 05:23 PM
Come on guys. Greg only does it to help the collectors. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to see his name at the top of every page.

Nice.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jadesfire on June 14, 2004, 05:23 PM
Its like he never existed :o

Who???? 8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 05:24 PM
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Come on guys. Greg only does it to help the collectors. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to see his name at the top of every page.

Now now Pot, let's not go insulting the Kettle again. I can't remember a day in recent history I could go over there and NOT see your name up on the top of just about every single subject on the boards. Aside from maybe Australian Collectors, which I think you've let GNT have to himself for some reason.  ;)

The only difference between you and GNT as far as your posting habits go is that he comes right out and admits that he thinks he's God and I think you're still in denial about your complex.

That and believe it or not, he actually has a sense of humor about people making fun of his post padding. Of course, he's got a few more years practice than you do. ;D


God has spoken.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 05:33 PM
It would seem the biggest difference between Durge and Gregg is that the latter has the power to enforce his own rules.

Gregg used to be a cute little mascot until he started running things his way. He'd be better off owning his own message board if he feels compelled to be a "god."
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 05:46 PM
He'd be better off owning his own message board if he feels compelled to be a "god."

Not a god, John...

The God.

Quote
I'm God, so live with it!
  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 05:53 PM
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It would seem the biggest difference between Durge and Gregg is that the latter has the power to enforce his own rules.

Hehe. You may have a point there.....although to continue to play the Gregg's advocate, after being turned down for the job....Durge had sort of appointed himself a vigilante moderator in the past, so one could argue that the similarities stem even further than you might think.

One in the same? No. But as similar as Greg and Gregg.....maybe.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 05:59 PM
One in the same? No. But as similar as Greg and Gregg.....maybe.  :)

That'd be pretty damned funny if Durge was actually Greg(g)'s alias, and he's been arguing with himself all over the RS boards...   :P

Or maybe Durge is really Greg(g)'s cousin Greg, and they're just having a bit of a family spat...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:31 PM
Getting warmer... ;)

But seriously folks, I think there are many significants differences between Greggypoo and I.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Force Guy on June 14, 2004, 06:36 PM
I think there are many significants differences between Greggypoo and I.

Like?
Title: Aww...Them fellers down at the scum miss me already...
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:37 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=848950&Main=848823#Post848950

 :'( <--- Tears of sadness.

28 more days... :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:39 PM
I collect Star Wars stuff...
I have in interest in what I post...
I live in the good 'ol U-S-of-A...

More?...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 06:40 PM
Sorry Durge, but we're just gonna keep the RS/Durge conversation isolated here in this one thread.  No need to start an all-new "Rebelscum misses me" thread, so I merged your new thread here with this old thread (as you can see 2 posts up from here).  The topics are basically one and the same at this point anyway.  So carry on now...   :-*

- Greg(g) Matt

P.S.  Can you imagine what Greg(g) would do if he had access to a cool "Merge" feature, like we do here at JD?!?  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/merge.gif)   :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:43 PM
Okay:


Lookit! Them fellers over at the scum miss me already!

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=848950&Main=848823#Post848950


 :'( <---- Tears of sadness.


28 more days until I can come back... :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:44 PM
Sorry Durge, but we're just gonna keep the RS/Durge conversation isolated here in this one thread.  No need to start an all-new "Rebelscum misses me" thread, so I merged your post here with this thread (2 posts up from here).  That's already part of the topic here in this one.  So carry on now...

- Greg(g) Matt

P.S.  Can you imagine what Greg(g) would do if he had access to a cool "Merge" feature, like we do here at JD?!?  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/merge.gif)   :o

Cool, you merged them. I didn't even notice so that's why I posted it again. I'm not post-padding or something like that.

Nice site... :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 06:45 PM
You obviously didn't look 3 posts up from here.  I already merged it in here, so there's no need to post it again.  Like I said, handy-dandy "Merge" feature here at JD, that Greg(g) would have an absolute field day with...   :P

Nevermind.  Looks like you're finally catching on...   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:51 PM
So which admin on JD also post on RS and by what name do you go? I know "I Love Koby Bryant" is Old_Cocky...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 06:54 PM
We're all the same names over there, except for Scott (Old Cocky), who's just professing his undying love for the Slayer of the Wolves over here for a little while!   8)

We just rarely ever post over there any more, but we were all quite the regulars before your day, Durge...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:55 PM
JediMac... Why doesn't your name ring a bell? What section do you post in most on RS?
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 07:01 PM
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JediMac... Why doesn't your name ring a bell? What section do you post in most on RS?

This is a perfect advertisement of why people should stop and actually read a few posts in a thread before replying to everything for the sake of replying.

But I've never heard of this "I love Kobe Bryant" jackass, so I think I'll have to heed my own advice and go do some research to find out just who that wacky character could be.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 07:07 PM
Like I said - before your time.  I've pretty much retired from RS for the most part now.  Been pretty much gone for almost 2 years now, like most of the older guys have since the GH split in late '02.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2004, 07:08 PM
Ugh, you know after reading through some threads there it has just afirmed my utter dislike for Wuhers Cantina. Veery few real conversations there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 07:09 PM
But I've never heard of this "I love Kobe Bryant" jackass, so I think I'll have to heed my own advice and go do some research to find out just who that wacky character could be.

 ;D  Jackass indeed.  Or as we like to call him around here: Princess.   ;)

Still surprised we actually let this clown moderate some of our forums though...   ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 07:13 PM
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JediMac... Why doesn't your name ring a bell? What section do you post in most on RS?

This is a perfect advertisement of why people should stop and actually read a few posts in a thread before replying to everything for the sake of replying.

But I've never heard of this "I love Kobe Bryant" jackass, so I think I'll have to heed my own advice and go do some research to find out just who that wacky character could be.


Nice try, but he just said he doesn't post much at RS any more. :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 07:17 PM
I actually posted in a couple of the same threads you did over there this week.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 07:20 PM
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Nice try, but he just said he doesn't post much at RS any more.

That's true. You've posted more here today than he has there in the last month or so.

Sad state of affairs when people don't know who JediMac is....or why his wife had to spend the night in a crate on the way to my house.

 ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2004, 07:26 PM
Hm. Creepy.

Care to share?
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jadesfire on June 14, 2004, 07:31 PM

Sad state of affairs when people don't know who JediMac is....or why his wife had to spend the night in a crate on the way to my house.

 ;D

Now that you've posted that, come on...spill it.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 07:42 PM
....or why his wife had to spend the night in a crate on the way to my house.
 ;D

Just a trade gone horribly wrong...   :-\  I think I was trying to trade Patty to Josh for the ultra-rare Silver R2 with corrected legs variant.  Or something to that effect.  I recall a pretty serious bidding war over her, so I can't really remember who won.  I think Morgbug may have been involved at some point too...  But somehow, she managed to get lost in the Seattle area for a good month or two, stuck in a large box, with just a few airholes.  At one point, she was feared lost and/or dead, but then she was miraculously discovered and revived, at the very last minute.

Josh, you gonna do the honors, and dig that old thread up at RS, or shall I...?!   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 08:26 PM
 ;D I was just lurking around when I noticed that Durge is spending time over here while his 30 day suspension for chronic indecency is occuring. I just wanted to say that RS is soooooooo much nicer with Durge gone. From reading some of his posts in this thread it appears that Durge thinks that the members over at RS miss him. The truth is, we don't.

Durge, please stay over here and drive these guys crazy for a few years. Let the RS members live in peace.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2004, 08:38 PM
We don't 'cept yer kind round here! j/k

Please don't come here to flame Durge, do that at Rebelscum.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 08:41 PM
I agree with Andrew except maybe we should all tone down the flaming in general, unless its toward JediMAC :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 08:49 PM
Hi guys...Meesa back. I feel I need to clear the air about certain things. I might as well just keep this account as I know there will be some backlash. This place isn't so bad. ;) So the deal over at RS is that I've been banned for 30 days. I'm not sure if the reason should be discussed over here, but I can tell you that it had nothing to do with my posting habits, "moderating", etc. There was no "episode" in which I created a thread to flame a certain member that was locked, or something like that. It was a quiet "inside" kind of thing.

I guess I might as well post here until the sentence has drawn out. Who knows? Maybe this place will grow on me. Everyone else seems to really like it here. :)

-Durge :P


 ;D Funny!

Actually, Durge was suspended for, to put it bluntly, being a a giant bunghole. He runs all over RS doing whatever the heck he wants, regardless of what the forum rules are. Whenever someone (mods, other members) tell him to knock it off, he whines like a little girl about how everyone is picking on him. He thinks that he is popular over at RS, but the reality is that most of the members cannot stand him and the mods are fed up with him.

Another member recently pointed out that he posts almost 600 times per month, which is unbelievable. Why on earth does he need to be on RS that much? I would really love to know why Durge is so obsessed with RS.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 08:51 PM
We don't 'cept yer kind round here! j/k

Please don't come here to flame Durge, do that at Rebelscum.  


Sorry, I just wanted to set the record straight so Durge cannot get away with lying to you guys.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 08:53 PM
And who the hell are you? ??? ::)


Let's see if we can get a nice pattern going:  ??? ::)  8) ::) ??? <--- beautiful
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 08:58 PM
And who the hell are you? ??? ::)



Just an RS member that is sharing the truth with the fine people of www.jedidefender.com.

By the way Durge, I see your posting habits haven't changed. You are well on your way to 600 posts per month on this site as well.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:01 PM
And who the hell are you? ??? ::)



Just an RS member that is sharing the truth with the fine people of www.jedidefender.com.


The truth? You have no damn reason as to why I was suspended. It's really has little to do with anything I wrote for the public to see in the forum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2004, 09:04 PM
Ok Droid Noid, we're all aware of the happenings at Rebelscum, most of us are/were members there.

The staff at JD generally is a little swifter in punishment, so if both of ya'll want to stay out of trouble you should stop, or just tone it down. Just a humble warning form a 'neutral' party.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:09 PM
Hey Vator. Nice to see you here. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:13 PM
Ok Droid Noid, we're all aware of the happenings at Rebelscum, most of us are/were members there.

The staff at JD generally is a little swifter in punishment, so if both of ya'll want to stay out of trouble you should stop, or just tone it down. Just a humble warning form a 'neutral' party.


I get what you are saying. I usually do not like to post messages like I have here. It just bothers me that Durge can cause so many problems on RS and get suspended, but then just come over here and start up the same chaos.

All I ask is that you be doubtful of anything that he says.


Durge, I know exactly what the reasons were for your suspension because I have talked to the people that suspended you.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:19 PM
WTF? What chaos?! I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the forums. :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:21 PM
WTF? What chaos?! I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the forums. :-\

That is what you would like all of us to believe. Thankfully, we are smarter than that.

Someone else in this thread suggested that Durge and  another member might be the same person. Durge has several IDs on RS that he uses for various purposes, so I would not be surprised if he actually has several IDs here as well.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:23 PM
WTF? What chaos?! I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the forums. :-\

That is what you would like all of us to believe. Thankfully, we are smarter than that.


 ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:29 PM
"I wish the banning had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."


What the heck kind of signature is that?

Quit acting like you are some kind of a victim. Someday, I hope that you grow up enough to realize that you cannot do what you have without suffering some kind of consequences.

Your suspension was your own fault. Stop whining.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on June 14, 2004, 09:34 PM
Droid Noid, thanks for the PSA.  ::) If you're coming over here just to "warn" us about Durge, then just do us all a favor and go back to RS. Seriously, following someone over to another board to flame them under the ruse that you are trying to "protect" the rest of the board against his "lies" is so absolutely ridiculous and childish. Really this whole thread is a big crapfest anyway, and it really more or less makes the JediDefenders look like a bunch of whiny bitches.

JediDefender is not a boarding house for those tired of Rebelscum. If you just want to come over here to bitch about how crappy Rebelscum has become, then go back to RS and bitch about it in Wuhers.

Unless Rebelscum was responsible for feeding your baby to dingos, murdering your parents, or burning your house down, most of us over here simply dont give a ****.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:39 PM
"I wish the banning had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."




It's a play on the line from LOTR where Frodo says "I wish the ring had never come to me..." I cannot be held accountable if you are slow witted.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:40 PM
Seriously, following someone over to another board to flame them under the ruse that you are trying to "protect" the rest of the board against his "lies" is so absolutely ridiculous and childish.

I did not follow Durge over here. As stated in my first post, I was lurking around here. I drop by a few times a week to see what topics are of interest to me. When I came here today I noticed that Durge was here and I just wanted to try to put a stop to whatever he is trying to start on this forum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:44 PM
"I wish the banning had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."




It's a play on the line from LOTR where Frodo says "I wish the ring had never come to me..." I cannot be held accountable if you are slow witted.





I am quite aware of what the line is from.

What I find sickening is that you would alter it and use it as some kind of whining declaration of your innocence.



Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2004, 09:50 PM
Durge, discontinue the postpadding or you'll be suspended from another forum. You're irritating me and I'm sure everyone else here as well, and when people irritate me they usually disapear. Pretend to be mature, or take your **** somewhere else.

Edit - and by the way I've locked this thread. If one of the guys decides to unlock it - fine by me, but I this is a forum, not a chat room.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 15, 2004, 03:10 AM
Durge, discontinue the postpadding or you'll be suspended from another forum. You're irritating me and I'm sure everyone else here as well, and when people irritate me they usually disapear. Pretend to be mature, or take your **** somewhere else.

And the same goes for Droid Noid, whoever's alias that may be.  We understand that Durge may not be everyone's favorite forum member, but Adam's right, this crap don't fly here at JD, so knock it off.  Some mild ribbing here and there is tolerable, but the all-out assault on him here isn't cool.  Had I been around at all this evening, this thread would've been shut down after DN's first or second post here.  DN, if you've really been lurking here at JD for a while, is this honestly the only thread that you've found worthy enough to participate in so far?  Some how I highly doubt it...   ::)

We also don't allow members to use our boards as a personal chatroom (which we have elsewhere), so that's got to stop as well - unless you're incredibly witty (like me), in which case we'll let it slide just a bit.

Finally, the JD staff here is well aware of any "situations", as well as the various member conflicts, at other forums, and we closely observe said activity when it occasionally moves over here to JD.  We know the personalities of certain people from other boards (especially RS) and the problems they've had elsewhere and may potentially bring over here, and we are also quite capable of doing further research on our own to investigate new JD members (including searching their RS posts and tracking their IPs), to decide how closely we'll monitor their activity here.  So just as everyone's pointed out that Durge shouldn't be trying to moderate at RS (or here), Droid Noid shouldn't be trying to assist in our moderating duties here at JD either.

We're on top of it.  Thanks.

- Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 15, 2004, 04:38 AM
I haven't (yet)!   ;D  I've only been warned once so far by Philip, for correcting Greg(g)'s dumb ass one too many times...   ::)

Whoops. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB2&Number=849265&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=152343&Search=true&where=&Name=1760&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post849265)  My bad.  That's probably gonna cost me another warning from Greg(g)'s bodyguard.   ::)

Hate it when that happens...   :P

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 15, 2004, 04:42 AM
Lock, unlock, lock, unlock. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/tongue.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 15, 2004, 04:50 AM
Just abusing my moderating powers and trying to get in the last word.  Something I learned from Greg(g).   :P

Actually, us mods don't even have to unlock it to reply to it...   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 15, 2004, 05:11 AM
Just thought you wanted to get your post count up to over 4900. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/tongue.gif)

Actually, us mods don't even have to unlock it to reply to it...   ;)

Work PC's suck at time's!  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/angry.gif)

Just abusing my moderating powers and trying to get in the last word.  Something I learned from Greg(g).   :P

OK  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/wink.gif)

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 15, 2004, 08:08 AM
You bastards. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 15, 2004, 08:26 AM
You bastards. ::)

Sorry!  :P
Title: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 27, 2004, 01:47 AM
What the hell is going on? First they lose Josheee and then obi-robz? Why can't GNT go? >:(
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 27, 2004, 01:54 AM
Yeah...  GNT...

What else is there to say really...  The only people who can stand GNT are the other people that I can't stand...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 27, 2004, 01:56 AM
I think you scared 'em off over there!   :P


Yeah, bummer to see a couple of their top guys stepping down.  Wonder why, and I really wonder who's gonna be replacing them.  I shudder to think of it...  Maybe Philip asked them for their addresses and personal information again, like the big shakedown that happened at TFn last year, when Philip fired half their mods for not giving him their personal, private contact info.


Well, should be interesting anyway...


Hopefully Josh and Rob will stop by JD a little more often now.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2004, 02:39 AM
Weird, but purging the forums there has happened before... 

I could think of a list of people Scum wuld give the mod-nod to given their track record.  Gen. Windu and "Peep Admiral/Yoda Boi" come to mind as people who've had a precedent set for their becoming a mod.

Josh was probably their most active mod there...  I'd imagine they'll attempt a replacement soon.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 27, 2004, 03:44 AM
GNT is the most active mod. In a negative way of course. ::)

Asking for personal information is such a fu$%ed up thing to do.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 27, 2004, 03:55 AM
...is such a fu$%ed up thing to do.

Ya' know, you can say that here.  People will see the word, or not, depending on whether they've got their language filter in their profile turned on or off...   ;)

I wouldn't say that asking for personal info is ****** up...  But demanding it sure is.  And then firing those who won't provide it really is!

So, you gonna apply for the mod spot Vader?  You know you want to!  I just wonder what Greg(g) would do if you got it...   :P
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jkno on August 27, 2004, 04:23 AM
Weird, but purging the forums there has happened before... 

I could think of a list of people Scum wuld give the mod-nod to given their track record.  Gen. Windu and "Peep Admiral/Yoda Boi" come to mind as people who've had a precedent set for their becoming a mod.

Josh was probably their most active mod there...  I'd imagine they'll attempt a replacement soon.

JoshEEE was a good mod. RS needs something to happen there, GNT is tooooo much...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: MetalJedi on August 27, 2004, 05:53 AM
GNT is tooooo much...

You can say that again. And its been like that for too long. Thats why I hardly post over there.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 27, 2004, 07:19 AM
JD is where it's at.

I gave up on 'scum a long time ago.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on August 27, 2004, 10:46 AM
There mere fact that everyone of oyu dwell on GNt gives him satisfaction. I'm sure he lurkes here and everwhere else. stop mentioning him ignore him and he will go away.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 27, 2004, 02:21 PM
There mere fact that everyone of oyu dwell on GNt gives him satisfaction. I'm sure he lurkes here and everwhere else. stop mentioning him ignore him and he will go away.

That never works.  They never go away.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 27, 2004, 02:51 PM
There mere fact that everyone of oyu dwell on GNt gives him satisfaction.

I doubt it, Gary.  Some of us drive him inveritably insane, believe me.  Don't think he was too pleased about having his picture posted all over the net last year.  No satisfaction for him there, that's for sure...  He's still bitching and moaning about that.  As far as all of us "dwelling" on him, well, that's a bit overboard dontchya' think?  He's certainly an interesting and entertaining topic to discuss from time to time.  No harm in that...

Quote
I'm sure he lurkes here and everwhere else.

He most definitely does.  He often throws a **** fit over stuff posted here.

Quote
stop mentioning him ignore him and he will go away.

Fat chance.  He wouldn't go away in a million years.  Under any circumstances...  Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 27, 2004, 03:25 PM
He needs to find a sexual partner. Other than his hand of course... ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: SilverZ on August 27, 2004, 04:13 PM

Fat chance.  He wouldn't go away in a million years.  Under any circumstances...  Unfortunately.

If the world is ever ravaged by nuclear war, two things will survive:

The cockroaches and GNT.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Bob Crane on August 27, 2004, 04:29 PM
He needs to find a sexual partner. Other than his hand of course... ::)

 Hey, don't knock masturbation. GNT's a knob, but for many other reasons, none of which are his vaseline antics.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: IndianaVader on August 27, 2004, 04:40 PM
Holy cow!  I didn't notice this.  JoshEEE even has the Emperor rank... I've never seen on in person. :P

_Max
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 27, 2004, 05:17 PM
I get it in another 180 posts or so... :P
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on August 27, 2004, 05:19 PM
So it'll be the Josho-Zodgarian Empire?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on August 27, 2004, 05:45 PM
I say "Meh" to the whole thing, but I shudder since I have a feeling who will become the new mods. Durge...... General Windu........ Mushimarumushu...........

Utter crap. Durge and GNT would probably try and ban each other though, which could make for some interesting posts. ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 27, 2004, 05:52 PM
I say "Meh" to the whole thing, but I shudder since I have a feeling who will become the new mods. Durge...... General Windu........ Mushimarumushu...........

Durge and GNT would probably try and ban each other
No, that doesn’t work. I know because I tried to ban Josh several times, but to no avail :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 27, 2004, 05:54 PM
Why did you leave Rob?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2004, 05:56 PM
GNT go away?

I believe that's what some would call a "Turd that won't flush".  :)

Ultimately, some names listed are likely in the running for mod-nod, honestly.  Durge too I'd think.  They keep letting him back so they obviously like him to some extent...  I dunno if Philip likes him personally or what...  He gets back in though, and we all know Scum's not keen on letting banned folks back in routinely.

There's a reason there...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 27, 2004, 06:04 PM
Why did you leave Rob?

Unfortunately I can’t say because it could get a couple of people (including myself) in trouble and I’d still like to be able to post there occasionally :)

I left on good terms with the Admins, but I would have actually preferred to have stayed in the job.  I wasn’t forced out, but under the circumstances (which I can’t talk about ;)) I just felt I had to give it up.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Snively Bandar on August 27, 2004, 07:18 PM
What the hell's Rebelscum?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: BobaShek on August 27, 2004, 10:17 PM
Sarcastic or not, that's the funniest thing I've read all day. ;D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on August 28, 2004, 12:09 AM
And GNT locked the thread about Robz...  Kinda funny unto itself.   :D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Scott on August 28, 2004, 12:11 AM
I wish both of the guys luck in their return to private life...

Illigitimum Non Carborundum
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on August 28, 2004, 12:49 AM
Matt,
Trite and oportunisitc people are a  lot like termites once the woods dead the throw up all over themselves and make a big mess for the rest of the colony.

Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 28, 2004, 06:23 AM
And GNT locked the thread about Robz...  Kinda funny unto itself.   :D

True, but I probably would have locked it too  ;)....very rarely have I seen a thread go so OT.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 30, 2004, 01:10 PM
****.

Holy ****! We can say it!  :o

Why wasn't I aware of this? When did it happen?

Now I can finally say **** Rebelscum!
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 30, 2004, 04:53 PM
You can even say Gregg is a *****.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Scott on August 30, 2004, 04:59 PM
The latest forum upgrade (3 weeks ago) allow the language filter to be turned on and off
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 30, 2004, 05:29 PM
That is sweet! I mean, in the long run its not really important, but having the option makes me giddy like a schoolgirl!

Are we the only SW forum of JD, GH and RS that's doing this?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2004, 05:38 PM
Are we the only SW forum of JD, GH and RS that's doing this?

Most definitely.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 30, 2004, 05:39 PM
Well...I liked JoshEEE and Obi Robz better as regular members.

I liked Gasgano Never Talked as a regular member too.

And I'll be damned if they turn Lady Jaye and Kneel Before Zod into squares like the rest of them.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 05:40 PM
Who, me?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 30, 2004, 05:43 PM
Who, me?

Yes. If they can Reform the worst of the post padders...I fear the day you accept a Moderator position.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 05:56 PM
If they make me a mod, I'll try cleaning that place up.  I'm your best friend as far as that stuff goes - imagine if they make General Windu or Mushamisishsa a mod instead.  It might be an impossible task but who knows...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on August 30, 2004, 06:14 PM
Zod's signature reminded me of this:

Why couldn't they have gotten rid of Darth Bryan?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2004, 06:23 PM
If they make me a mod, I'll try cleaning that place up.

You doin' a 180 on us now Rob?  You said over at RS last week there was no way you'd be applying...   ???

So, you and Durge, filling in for Josh and Rob?  Hmmm...   :P
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2004, 06:23 PM
You can even say Gregg is a *****.

We'd rather not state the obvious though...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 06:26 PM
Well, I'm not going ao apply, but when I saw the far less exciting names that were being thrown around and a bunch of people thought I should do it, I decided I'd better withdraw my earlier statements and take it if offered.  It won't change my love of the JD one bit though. 

Now if only I could get the power to un-ban people...   8)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 30, 2004, 06:30 PM
Ooh, I got into trouble for saying things like I’m going to un-ban certain JD members :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 30, 2004, 06:37 PM
There really are no good candidates for moderator at rebel scum. Zod would probably be the best choice, but I cannot think of anyone else who would be a good moderator. Some of the people asking for the job are pathetic. Killer185 ::), YodaBoi ::), General Windu ::). God help you all.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 30, 2004, 06:41 PM
Best choice would be Zod or failing that, myself or Josh.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 07:51 PM
Ooh, I got into trouble for saying things like I’m going to un-ban certain JD members :)

Well, techinically I didn't say I would un-ban anyone.   8)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 30, 2004, 08:00 PM
Darth Vader is right....

The other people trying to weasel their way in are rather unsatisfying....If they do get it, I'm sorr to say that JediDefender will be seeing a lot more of me.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on August 30, 2004, 08:11 PM
The other people trying to weasel their way in are rather unsatisfying....If they do get it, I'm sorr to say that JediDefender will be seeing a lot more of me.

and i think i speak for everyone involved when i say i'm sorry to hear that.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on August 30, 2004, 08:35 PM
Okay, so I've been extremely busy latley...is Zod a mod now?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 08:45 PM
I am not.  But several people are floating my name around it would seem...  The options are getting pretty limited over there...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 30, 2004, 08:56 PM
The thing about RS is that most of the posters these days are immature kids. JD is better in the sense that most of the regulars in the community are adults. Immature adults, but adults nonetheless. ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 30, 2004, 09:21 PM
The thing about RS is that most of the posters these days are immature kids. JD is better in the sense that most of the regulars in the community are adults. Immature adults, but adults nonetheless. ;)

Good point...Maybe I'll just leave the internet until I'm 30 then. :-*
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on August 30, 2004, 09:38 PM
I'm only 14...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 09:41 PM
That's enough to make me feel old as hell - and I'm just about to turn 24.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Bob Crane on August 30, 2004, 09:56 PM
I am not.  But several people are floating my name around it would seem...  The options are getting pretty limited over there...

Don't do it, man... for Godsakes- DON'T DO IT.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 10:06 PM
Why not?  The reason I'm considering it is because if I don't, they'll end up with some chode like General Windu...  What would be the negatives? 

But again, no one's offered me anything and I'm non-committal at best right now...  I really haven't given it any thought until today...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on August 30, 2004, 10:26 PM
That's enough to make me feel old as hell - and I'm just about to turn 24.

but you're still a youngin' compared with a lot of these old jd guys here.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 30, 2004, 10:33 PM
Why not?  The reason I'm considering it is because if I don't, they'll end up with some chode like General Windu...  What would be the negatives? 

But again, no one's offered me anything and I'm non-committal at best right now...  I really haven't given it any thought until today...


General Windu has no chance. A hair on my ass has more intelligence and common sense than him. If he really is 18... boy do I feel bad for his parents.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2004, 10:52 PM
What would be the negatives?

I dunno...  Maybe you should ask Josh or Rob that.   ;)

Of course, one negative that immediately comes to mind, would be the wonderful opportunity of working with God The Master Greg(g) GNT.

Thoughts?


P.S.  I didn't mean doin' a 180 on us here at JD, Rob.  I just meant that regarding your comments over at RS in general, was all...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jjks on August 30, 2004, 11:35 PM
I would so make a great mod over there...or Homeschooled I suppose...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 31, 2004, 12:16 AM
What would be the negatives? 


There are not many small negatives, it's more like one big one. You would have to work with one of the biggest morons on and off the internet.

I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

If you liked this post, please check out:

My Moronic Post in the Saga Section (http://www.yoururl.com)
My Moronic Post in the OTC Section (http://www.yoururl.com)
My Moronic Post in the POTF2 Section (http://www.yoururl.com)


Thoughts?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 31, 2004, 03:40 AM
My thought would be that all 3 of those links are no good. Awesome!
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: CorranHorn on August 31, 2004, 05:04 AM
What would be the negatives? 


There are not many small negatives, it's more like one big one. You would have to work with one of the biggest morons on and off the internet.

I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

If you liked this post, please check out:

My Moronic Post in the Saga Section (http://www.yoururl.com)
My Moronic Post in the OTC Section (http://www.yoururl.com)
My Moronic Post in the POTF2 Section (http://www.yoururl.com)


Thoughts?

Thoughts....

1.) See AE's thoughts
2.) You seem more overly obsessed with scum's antics than anyone else
3.) You seem more overly obsessed with GNT's antics than anyone else
4.) As such, #2 and #3 make you sound like one of GNT's close personal "friends" from scum. Hmmm I wonder who that could be, could it be.... Satan! Nah that's not it, Satan know's how to work links.
5.) Being able to swear without worrying that the kiddies will go crying to mommy and daddy...... ******* priceless!
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Force Guy on August 31, 2004, 11:06 AM
More GNT bashing.  How surprising.  Not that I would invite GNT over for dinner or anything, but really, hasn't the whole GNT-bashing trend evolved into an obssession?  I know it's "cool" to bash GNT over here at Jedi Basher Jedi Defender, but seriously, isn't it getting old? 
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2004, 12:15 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

I'm not sure what "level" you are putting him on that is "pathetic"...  :-\

Would that "pathetic level" be Star Wars Fansite Forum Moderator or Uber-Post-Padder at a Star Wars Fansite?  Or neither?  At least there is a tiny bit of respect for most Fansite Forum Moderators, unlike Uber-Post-Padders at Fansites.   Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 31, 2004, 02:26 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

 Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.

Jeff

Hey...Watch it buddy. 8)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 31, 2004, 03:42 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.
Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.
Jeff
Hey...Watch it buddy. 8)

No worries, Jediknigbhjei14123423, I think Jeff was, in a subliminal sort of way, saying that "Darth Vader" is a hipocrite to ever speak poorly of GNT's posting habbits. That's just what I think, I could be wrong.  ???

More GNT bashing. How surprising. Not that I would invite GNT over for dinner or anything, but really, hasn't the whole GNT-bashing trend evolved into an obssession? I know it's "cool" to bash GNT over here at Jedi Basher Jedi Defender, but seriously, isn't it getting old?

Yes, it is very old.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 31, 2004, 04:54 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.
Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.
Jeff
Hey...Watch it buddy. 8)

No worries, Jediknigbhjei14123423, I think Jeff was, in a subliminal sort of way, saying that "Darth Vader" is a hipocrite to ever speak poorly of GNT's posting habbits. That's just what I think, I could be wrong.  ???

More GNT bashing. How surprising. Not that I would invite GNT over for dinner or anything, but really, hasn't the whole GNT-bashing trend evolved into an obssession? I know it's "cool" to bash GNT over here at Jedi Basher Jedi Defender, but seriously, isn't it getting old?

Yes, it is very old.

Oh. *SHAME*

Nice to see you again AE. :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Scott on August 31, 2004, 05:02 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.
Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.
Jeff
Hey...Watch it buddy. 8)

No worries, Jediknigbhjei14123423, I think Jeff was, in a subliminal sort of way, saying that "Darth Vader" is a hipocrite to ever speak poorly of GNT's posting habbits. That's just what I think, I could be wrong.  ???

More GNT bashing. How surprising. Not that I would invite GNT over for dinner or anything, but really, hasn't the whole GNT-bashing trend evolved into an obssession? I know it's "cool" to bash GNT over here at Jedi Basher Jedi Defender, but seriously, isn't it getting old?

Yes, it is very old.

Oh. *SHAME*

Nice to see you again AE. :)
AE makes Yub Yub sound like a battle cry
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on August 31, 2004, 05:08 PM
Yeah, it's old to an extent...  Warranted...  Sorta fun still.  Old though.  I think it's more that people here have their reasons to KNOW he's viewing it, and that's why it continues more than anything else.

God knows you can't call him a ******bag at Scum when he does something you dn't like.  You can't even have a voice to constructively criticize really.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: CorranHorn on September 1, 2004, 12:33 AM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

I'm not sure what "level" you are putting him on that is "pathetic"...  :-\

Would that "pathetic level" be Star Wars Fansite Forum Moderator or Uber-Post-Padder at a Star Wars Fansite?  Or neither?  At least there is a tiny bit of respect for most Fansite Forum Moderators, unlike Uber-Post-Padders at Fansites.   Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.

Jeff

I think the pathetic level comes from his more times than not holier than thou attitude where he thinks he knows what he is talking about but when he is shown to be wrong he doesn't change his tune.

Then again the pathetic level could be all about one person trying to be someone else and bashing on people he claims not to know.
Title: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Revenge on September 6, 2004, 10:27 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=307006&page=215&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#307006

Quote
I would like to honor GNT as well. But I would prefer to give him my own award of distinction:

Most Improved Poster

For anyone who's followed my history over the past year with Mr. Emperor GNT, you'll know that this is a most surprising bit of adulation on my part, as I have often been quick to jump on him for many of his previously well documented one-liners followed by the obligatory  . GNT might even suggest that I've been his arch nemesis around the boards over the past year. In fact, that's my quote about him being a Computer Posting Program that he's got in his signature line there! 

But I would like to point out that over the past 2-3 months, I have seen a significant improvement in the overall quality of GNT's posts. Far fewer pointless one-liners and smiley faces, and much better, longer, more thought out and helpful posts that contribute to, rather than annoy, the whole of the community. I don't know if this has been a conscious effort on GNT's part, but it certainly shows. Not to mention his always excellent checklists and knack at breaking the vast majority of news scoops here on the boards.

I think I'm even starting to see some of his real personality coming through in a few of his recent posts. Heck, I've even seen him talking $h!t to several other members of late. And trying to run over his own grandmother with a car?! Now just try to tell me that this cat isn't starting to let go of the reigns just a little here... 

So kudos to The Emperor for turning things around so drastically of late! Well done.

In closing:
GNT's first 12,500 posts... 
GNT's last 1,000+ posts... 

Keep it up GNT, I'm diggin' it...




Good lord. Why the hell did you praise GNT? :o
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Rob on September 6, 2004, 10:40 PM
Well, JediMac gave GNT's first 12,500 posts a  >:( 

And his 'last' 1,000 posts a  ;D

I wonder what he would give him for the 16,000 posts since.
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: jokabofe on September 6, 2004, 10:44 PM
wtf? dude, that post is like almost 2 years old. nothing better to do with your free time than dig through the archives at rebelscum?
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Revenge on September 6, 2004, 10:46 PM
wtf? dude, that post is like almost 2 years old. nothing better to do with your free time than dig through the archives at rebelscum?


Nope. :'(  Actually it's only because of labor day.

2 years old or not, he still said it. I hope he comes to the thread and officially takes it back.
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: JediMAC on September 6, 2004, 11:24 PM
Good Lord.  Great stuff there Steven.  Ya' dumb jackass...   ::)

Considering Greg(g)'s first 12,500 posts were nothing but one word and a smiley face, he started improving dramatically shortly thereafter.  He added a lot more content (and news) into his posts, so yes, he was greatly improved, and not a complete waste of forum posting space anymore, IMO.  He still posts 100x better than he did in his earlier days.  If you had been around back then, you would likely know that.

BUT, the reason I don't care for GNT now, is because of his 'Holier than thou', "I am God", arrogant attitude, as if he's the greatest **** in the history of Star Wars forums, which couldn't be any further from the truth.

So my gripe with him used to be based on quality, now it's just personal.  So, no, I'm not a fraud.

Careful, or you'll wind up on my ****list as well "Darth Vader".  Talk about frauds...   :-*
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: CorranHorn on September 7, 2004, 12:27 AM
Matt's somewhat right, sure he goes overboard with his modding ways, but GNT has settled down his post-padding ways and only talks out of his ass half the time now.  Not like other guys on scum. Darth Vader, yoU seem to have an enoRmous amount of disGust for evEryone's not-so favorite scum mod Greg(g). You should relax man, it's not like anyone has confused you for him, right....
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: jjks on September 7, 2004, 12:38 AM
I always knew that JediMAC guy was a tool...now i have the proof I've been craving

 >:(

And on that note, here's some toes
(http://www.batmo.com/pix/toes.jpg)
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Rob on September 7, 2004, 01:00 AM
DURGE

Well done.
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 7, 2004, 01:07 AM
Careful, or you'll wind up on my ****list as well "Darth Vader".  Talk about frauds...   :-*

Oh that was good!

Durge Darth Vader, no matter how many name changes you go through, you'll never be able to hide that unhealthy obsession you've got with Greg(g). Pitiful.

Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Revenge on September 7, 2004, 01:10 AM
Good Lord.  Great stuff there Steven.  Ya' dumb jackass...   ::)

Considering Greg(g)'s first 12,500 posts were nothing but one word and a smiley face, he started improving dramatically shortly thereafter.  He added a lot more content (and news) into his posts, so yes, he was greatly improved, and not a complete waste of forum posting space anymore, IMO.  He still posts 100x better than he did in his earlier days.  If you had been around back then, you would likely know that.

BUT, the reason I don't care for GNT now, is because of his 'Holier than thou', "I am God", arrogant attitude, as if he's the greatest **** in the history of Star Wars forums, which couldn't be any further from the truth.

So my gripe with him used to be based on quality, now it's just personal.  So, no, I'm not a fraud.

Careful, or you'll wind up on my ****list as well "Darth Vader".  Talk about frauds...   :-*


It was a joke. :'(
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: JediMAC on September 7, 2004, 02:26 AM
I always knew that JediMAC guy was a tool...now i have the proof I've been craving

 >:(

I thought my yakking all over the bathroom wall of Wildcats right in front of you was proof enough Jamie...  No?

Damn.  I'll try to do better next time then...   :-\


It was a joke. :'(

Ah.  I see.  Funny.  Kinda.  Well, not really...
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Vator on September 7, 2004, 10:20 AM
This was so worth the read!
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Scott on September 7, 2004, 11:30 AM
JediMAC has always had a soft spot for Greg(g), never could figure that one out.  And, I'm starting to agree with ForceGuy, the Greg(g) bashing is getting a little stale, so I'll lock this and please feel free to bump any of the other 20000 threads we have about him here.  Thanks :-*
Title: The Scum continues it's downward spiral...
Post by: jjks on October 12, 2004, 09:59 PM
Anyone else witnessing what's going on at Rebelscum right now? Whoever Christopher Reeve is has really taken over Wuhers, and General Windu is right behind with lame ass responses to EVERY single thread the dude has started.

Hates 'em I do!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 12, 2004, 10:02 PM
That post a new topic so you get the whole front page of Wuhers to your self is the lamest thing I've ever seen ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 12, 2004, 10:05 PM
Although, his topics seems to be a lot more "colorful"

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Famine on October 12, 2004, 10:06 PM
You see why I don't go there anymore?


NOW DO YA SEE?!

Kevin
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jjks on October 12, 2004, 10:09 PM
There are some very "colorful" topics posted that I never thought I'd see on a Star Wars message board!

People that post just to take up the entire page suck! Attention seekers!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 12, 2004, 10:13 PM
Someone needs to bump The Punky Brewster Appreciation Society Thread...stat!

Oh wait, Gregggggg locked that one :'(
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 12, 2004, 10:15 PM
No big suprises here.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 12, 2004, 10:16 PM
ya know what's funny, people are calling for a mod to stop this, when the first posts started happening i noticed an admin on their boards at the time. he obviously missed it, but where's GNT, doesn't he live there?
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Diddly on October 12, 2004, 10:18 PM
RS still exists?  ???
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 12, 2004, 10:35 PM
Ha.  Amusing.  I only got to pop in for a minute there before Phil and GNT finally showed up, so I didn't get to read through most of it all.  But I'm pretty sure I got the jist of it.

I remember one late night on RS several years back when just Dale (DSJ) and I were online and a guy just like this showed up, but who was FAR worse as far as the stuff he wrote.  He went off on Dale (and Dale's mom) something fierce.  Good times!  Remember D?   :P
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: General Grievous on October 12, 2004, 10:37 PM
Sad thing is that this can happen every day and it would take forever for someone to take charge.

They need more mods and they need to get rid of GNT. He is a waste of bandwidth with his 200000000000 posts. ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: DSJ™ on October 12, 2004, 10:46 PM
I remember one late night on RS several years back when just Dale (DSJ) and I were online and a guy just like this showed up, but who was FAR worse as far as the stuff he wrote.  He went off on Dale (and Dale's mom) something fierce.  Good times!  Remember D?   :P

How can I ever forget!   ::)  Best night of my life there, ahh, the memories!  ;D 

Troll's, why did it have to be Troll's!  (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/YaBBImages/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Diddly on October 12, 2004, 10:53 PM
So I wonder what banned member that was.

And Durge PMed me while I was visiting the chaos...... They STILL don't know who my alter ego is, despite having Diddly Squat in my name and sig!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 12, 2004, 11:03 PM
So I wonder what banned member that was.

And Durge PMed me while I was visiting the chaos...... They STILL don't know who my alter ego is, despite having Diddly Squat in my name and sig!

Well that explains that, I saw the posts on scum and your subsequent post in this thread, but didn't want to out ya. don't worry about Durge, he's a moron anyways looking to find any chance to stick one to GNT.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Famine on October 12, 2004, 11:11 PM
Oh wait, Gregggggg locked that one :'(


Hahaha. When you said that, all I could think of is Puppet Kim Jon Il or whoever he is from Team America saying "Gregggggg...your busing my balls."


Classic man!

Kevin
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Ben on October 12, 2004, 11:45 PM
I just noticed this today... every news item Philip posts has something to do with merchandise.

Gee, I think he's getting some kind of kickback.



No wonder I got a C- in Economics.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: General Grievous on October 13, 2004, 12:03 AM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/images/luke_slideshow-1.gif) = $$$ for (http://www.wiseacres.com/pwoffice1.jpg)


 ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2004, 12:30 AM
Yeah.   I saw all that for about 2 seconds - then I went back to watching the Yankees game.

I'm all for a little excitement every now and then but that was pretty damn absurd - even for a troll.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 13, 2004, 01:53 AM
Yeah.   I saw all that for about 2 seconds - then I went back to watching the Yankees game.

I'm all for a little excitement every now and then but that was pretty damn absurd - even for a troll.

it was funny to watch while i wasted away at work. funny not for what he was doing, some of the **** he said was quite offensive actually, but what was funny was the reactions he was getting. some of it was priceless and some of it leads me to believe  that one of the people responding was the same guy
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 13, 2004, 03:24 AM
some of it leads me to believe  that one of the people responding was the same guy

But that would mean...

 :o
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2004, 10:29 AM
It was someone who was around long enough to remember the thread where Lionell Richie and Rob Zombie were doing a duet.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Xander on October 13, 2004, 10:45 AM
Yeah, I never know what's going on there.  Why people hate certain people, who's coming back to flood, why certain people are mods and others aren't...
Too much drama for me.  I already have a backlog of TV I need to catch up on, so the Rebelscum opera sits on the back burner.

Oh yeah, there's a lot more picture of Philip in the waybackmachine (http://www.archive.org/).  Search engine seems to be down at the moment.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JoshEEE on October 13, 2004, 02:43 PM
This is far from the first time something like that has happened over there.

They just don't have enough mods to catch it anymore.  ;)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Diddly on October 13, 2004, 05:37 PM
It was someone who was around long enough to remember the thread where Lionell Richie and Rob Zombie were doing a duet.

In that case, I would blame it all on Virex.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 13, 2004, 06:36 PM
but virex died.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2004, 08:11 PM
A virex haunting? 
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 13, 2004, 09:03 PM
Actually, I was thinking it was some knucklehead who goes by the name of General Windu. He tends to make an ass of himself over there and he just so happened to be replying to almost every thread this spammer was creating/posting in within seconds of the spammer's post.

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jjks on October 13, 2004, 09:05 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the good General, but then again I already can't stand the kid and am sooo glad he's not over here.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 15, 2004, 12:13 AM
What the hell happened there over the summer?
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Jesse James on October 15, 2004, 12:17 AM
Only one season being blamed for a spiral that rivals that of a flushing toilet? :)  I think that's lenient.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 15, 2004, 12:23 AM
For old time's sake, let's pull out that old GNT photo. What do you say, fellas? :D
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: General Grievous on October 15, 2004, 02:41 AM
This one:

http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg

 ???
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Xander on October 15, 2004, 07:18 AM
Guys, sometimes I have hard time sorting out myth from reality in these forums.
Is that the REAL GNT?  :o
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 15, 2004, 09:19 AM
Is that the REAL GNT?  :o

I believe this is how the story goes...

According to Gregg (God/GNT), that is not him, but his cousin Greg (who also calls himself God).

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 15, 2004, 09:20 AM
That is Greg(g) 100% positive its him...why threaten to sue me if it wasn't?  And now that his secret identity was exposed I'm wondering what he's been doing with his life
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 15, 2004, 09:25 AM
They both go by the nickname of The Master, too. I forgot that.


"I'm God, so live with it."[/size]-Greg(g), GNT
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/GNTSistine.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 15, 2004, 11:06 AM
That is Greg(g) 100% positive its him...why threaten to sue me if it wasn't?  And now that his secret identity was exposed I'm wondering what he's been doing with his life
Old Country Buffet, unless you live in Australia, Gregg can't touch you. He's banging kangaroos or something down under.  :-X
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 15, 2004, 12:36 PM
I just went over to the 'scum forums for the first time in a while...what a **** hole that place has turned into! One guy (the infamous General Windu) is bitching about the Dannik Jeriko figure and cursing out Hasbro over and over. what the hell is wrong with the Dannik figure? The worst thing is that he's not the exception over there.

Then you've got Gregg and his jackass useless comments every few posts. How long will it be until he is the only person posting on those forums?

Glad to have the JD forums.  8)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 15, 2004, 01:06 PM
This one:

http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg

 ???

I'm still proud of this one:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 15, 2004, 01:09 PM
You should be, its a work of art, high art
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: General Grievous on October 15, 2004, 01:54 PM
And now that his secret identity was exposed I'm wondering what he's been doing with his life


He stays in his basement day in - day out. You can see it for yourself. He sleeps from 10 AM (est) 'till 6 PM (est) then he posts from 6:01 PM 'till 9:59 AM (est).
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 15, 2004, 02:26 PM
That definitely was a brilliant piece of work there Rob.  One of my alltime favorites...   8)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 15, 2004, 02:52 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)


so wait, what's the history on this pic?
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Jeff on October 15, 2004, 02:55 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)


so wait, what's the history on this pic?

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=4895.0
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 15, 2004, 03:18 PM
ah, fantastic. i should hang around here more often.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 15, 2004, 06:33 PM
You should be, its a work of art, high art

it sure is, the first time i saw that pic, i found myself laughing so loud at the office, people from across the hall were checking to see if i was ok.

it sure was DelightfUl of the newest jd membeR Star Wars to draG that original picturE of gnt up. it's a historical pic for sure.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 15, 2004, 08:51 PM
I don’t know what you people are meaning by “going down the toilet”, RS has never been better… I only wish Albert would come back somehow- BTW anyone catch that thread about SLT that Durge started and was quickly erased all together? It was rather scandalous to say the least.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 15, 2004, 09:09 PM
SLT?

Share the Love?
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 15, 2004, 09:20 PM
SLT?

Share the Love?

He's referring to everyone's anxiety-laced vintage AFA figure collector SithLordToys. Got banned I believe from the Scum for going off on several people, then attempted on several occassions to come back into the scum vintage section with different nicknames, only to be outted everytime. He may have even stopped by here a time or two, though certainly not known around these parts for the kind of stuff he did on scum, that belongs to someone else.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 15, 2004, 09:42 PM
Yes, that’s correct- Sith Lord Toys, and you know, I can’t help but think that the incredibly caustic nature of RS only helped deteriorate Albert further, it's queer how most people pin-point Wuher’s as the root of evil there, I feel that the hallowed vintage section is by far the most distraught, RS would be a lot better off without half the bizarre personalities that hang in there- “tight knight community” my ass.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 15, 2004, 10:03 PM
it's queer how most people pin-point Wuher’s as the root of evil there, I feel that the hallowed vintage section is by far the most distraught, RS would be a lot better off without half the bizarre personalities that hang in there- “tight knight community” my ass.

Agreed.

I collect vintage, but I haven't gone near that forum more than once in almost 2 years.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 15, 2004, 10:30 PM
Damn, guess that should have been "knit" not "knight"  :-X

Ps. Yah, I especially enjoy it when boners make O.T. threads there and start them off as, “I suppose I could have posted this in Wuher’s, but those people are really just much too childish to give me a meaningful opinion…”- what-ev-rrrr! ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 15, 2004, 11:08 PM
While the vintage crew at RS can be caustic at times (I've certainly called them out on it several times), they are no way near as bad as the majority of the ****** morons that populate Wuhers. Assclowns there do nothing more than purposely make posts just to anger someone, cause a riot, or just grab attention for themselves. The majority of the people who post on Wuher's have nothing to contribute whatsoever not only to the threads in Wuher's or the collecting sections, but to life itself. That's why I stick solely to the Wrestling Trivia thread there cause I'm just owning people there, and do all my "OT" posting here on JD.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Sems Fir on October 15, 2004, 11:19 PM
Bob Crane wrote:

"it's queer how most people pin-point Wuher’s as the root of evil there, I feel that the hallowed vintage section is by far the most distraught, RS would be a lot better off without half the bizarre personalities that hang in there- “tight knight community” my ass."

SemsFir writes:

The readers that post in the vintage forum at RS can in a way be considered more cautious due to events that unfold from time to time in the vintage section (such as the Albert soap opera for example).  While you feel that a segment of the vintage community is made up of "bizarre personalities" the same can be stated for every public forum on the world wide web.  Is the vintage community tight - knit?  I'd have to answer yes.  While disagreements do happen amongst the vintage community, the vintage community watches out for each other (for example to help prevent fellow collectors from getting scammed), and when new information comes forward about a particular subject, knowledge is generally shared.  So, yes the vintage community is tight - knit.

Bob Crane wrote:

"those people are really just much too childish to give me a meaningful opinion"

SemsFir writes:

If you have a question about collecting Star Wars especially action figures and toys created by Kenner and Hasbro there are numerous knowledgeable collectors that post in the vintage forum section of RS, and in some cases their knowledge is very meaningful.  In certain situations I'd rather have a meaningful opinion from a knowledgeable collector of a particular subject, then fly blindly into the storm.  

Robert
www.behindthetoys.com (http://www.behindthetoys.com)
Lead Editor
BLACK S. U. N.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 15, 2004, 11:31 PM
Yah, yah... sure, sure.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 15, 2004, 11:38 PM
Well, 'Scums vintage forum can be a little intimidating to a lot of folks.  I tend to think the "inner circle" of guys (the TRG/Archive crowd) are definitely tight-knit and obviously the most knowledgeable in the world on the subject matter.  I think most of them are pretty good guys too.

But there's also a lot of other folks who collect the vintage line, but just on a more casual basis - like just the regular figures.  But their knowledge, and sometimes questions/thoughts, are rather elementary compared to the stuff the diehards get into.  So you've got two rather distinct subsets within the vintage realm, which really aren't meant to blend together so much.  It's like trying to merge an advanced calculus class full of students with a pre-algebra class.  Rather tricky.

I kinda think of the serious vintage guys as the Varsity team, while most of the rest of us more casual vintage collectors are on the freshman/sophmore team.  I'm sure if a freshman got stuck with the varsity guys, he might come off as rather annoying, untalented, incapable, uninformed, uncoached.  But hopefully with a little patience, the varsity guys can usually do some general coaching of the youngin' to get him into better vintage collecting shape.

Anyway, enough of the analogies.  There should just be two different vintage forums over there:  Basic Vintage ("Vintage for Dummies"), and Avid Vintage (the professionals).   ;)

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 15, 2004, 11:44 PM
Gotcha

You okeoke Abdyr inoarticykar do noot seem to adnit the don't know how long I have had some of then in my collectuion what I oaid fir
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 16, 2004, 12:04 AM
Even though I've got a half-decent vintage collection, I never posted a single time (that I can remember) in Rebelscum's Vintage boards... I was definately intimidated. I even keep my mouth shut in JD's Vintage board, for the most part.

 :-\
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 17, 2004, 05:39 AM
ah, fantastic. i should hang around here more often.
Same story here.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Deanpaul on October 21, 2004, 12:07 AM
I just went over to the 'scum forums for the first time in a while...what a **** hole that place has turned into! One guy (the infamous General Windu) is bitching about the Dannik Jeriko figure and cursing out Hasbro over and over. what the hell is wrong with the Dannik figure? The worst thing is that he's not the exception over there.

Then you've got Gregg and his jackass useless comments every few posts. How long will it be until he is the only person posting on those forums?

Glad to have the JD forums.  8)

This link takes you to a page that illustrates the futility of trying to follow/contribute at RS.

I found the part where other people snipe your letters while you work the most amusing. I quickly turned to the dark side of taking other peoples letters because it was sooooo much more fun. Actually laughed out loud while doing it for about 15 minutes, then left.

Just like RS. ;)

http://www.flashcomguru.com/apps/letters/
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 21, 2004, 12:40 AM
Speaking of the downward spiral...they're calling my name again for the Mod thing...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 21, 2004, 12:53 AM
I just went over to the 'scum forums for the first time in a while...what a **** hole that place has turned into! One guy (the infamous General Windu) is bitching about the Dannik Jeriko figure and cursing out Hasbro over and over. what the hell is wrong with the Dannik figure? The worst thing is that he's not the exception over there.

Then you've got Gregg and his jackass useless comments every few posts. How long will it be until he is the only person posting on those forums?

Glad to have the JD forums.  8)

This link takes you to a page that illustrates the futility of trying to follow/contribute at RS.

I found the part where other people snipe your letters while you work the most amusing. I quickly turned to the dark side of taking other peoples letters because it was sooooo much more fun. Actually laughed out loud while doing it for about 15 minutes, then left.

Just like RS. ;)

http://www.flashcomguru.com/apps/letters/


hahaha that site was fun to mess with, and its a great description of the futility of having an mature conversation at most parts of the scum

kbz: become a mod just so you can  ban all the other mods one nite and cause chaos by posting **** all over the place :)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 21, 2004, 01:03 AM
kbz: become a mod just so you can  ban all the other mods one nite and cause chaos by posting **** all over the place :)

Isn't that what already happens over there though, Jas?   :P


Just seems like the current mods over there haven't been paying much attention of late.  Place has gone to **** (even moreso than usual) since Josh and Rob stepped down...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 21, 2004, 01:17 AM
kbz: become a mod just so you can  ban all the other mods one nite and cause chaos by posting **** all over the place :)

Isn't that what already happens over there though, Jas?   :P

Just seems like the current mods over there haven't been paying much attention of late.  Place has gone to **** (even moreso than usual) since Josh and Rob stepped down...

Matt yeah exactly, but it happening from the inside is pure comedic gold dontcha think? :)

If as of late you mean the situation that started this thread with that cockknocker going all nutty on wuhers, i can see how that can get by the mods, they dont necessarily have to live there, though GNT surely once did. If its the other ****, like the whining, bitching, moaning, fighting, well that **** has been that way ever since the original BHC mods left when GH was formed, and nothing is ever going to change that.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 21, 2004, 10:24 AM
I'm kinda feeling like I should do it.  I've been over there for almost 3 years now - it might be time to chip in....  I'm at a computer during the day time and can at least keep an eye on things...  Besides, they're all calling my name... I'd love to be able to tell Rocket Fett that he's got to knock it off from a position of message board authority when he comes trolling every fourth or fifth month...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jjks on October 21, 2004, 11:44 AM
I think you should go for it Rob. There isn't anyone else over there right now that I think is worthy besides you, and Lord knows they need all the help they can get.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 21, 2004, 12:33 PM
Yeah - I'm thinking I'll give it a try...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 21, 2004, 12:38 PM
Good luck with that. It looks pretty thankless, but you should do a good job.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: stormie on October 21, 2004, 12:38 PM
I tend to think RS is much more entertaining without more moderators. It's kind of one big freak fest of spastic posting sometimes. It's quite funny to read, especially without a mod locking down threads or insulting people because he thinks they may post too much or whatever. It always seems like the moderators are above and beyond the most opinionated of all. Really, the only times I haven't enjoyed reading RS are when some of the mods (and ex-mods) have come into a thread and become serious and belligerent. Kind of like when "Dad" comes home from work in a foul mood--all the fun is over.  :P  
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 21, 2004, 01:57 PM
I'd love to be able to tell Rocket Fett that he's got to knock it off from a position of message board authority when he comes trolling every fourth or fifth month...

that alone would make it worth it.

you're gonna have to bite your metaphorical tounge quite a bit, though. be sure you wanna make the leap.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 21, 2004, 04:46 PM
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RS is... one big freak fest of spastic posting

I like that.  :)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 21, 2004, 11:49 PM
Go the distance, Rob! ;D
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 21, 2004, 11:56 PM
My personal opinion, I'd let the water continue to swirl around the bowl and wave bye-bye instead of jumping in and joining the rest of the ****, but that's just me ;)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: proudfather2 on October 22, 2004, 10:25 AM
My personal opinion, I'd let the water continue to swirl around the bowl and wave bye-bye instead of jumping in and joining the rest of the ****, but that's just me ;)

Ya see though OCB, the waters been swirling for so long now that I 've accepted the fact that it's one of those damn toilets that never really flushes all the way. You know what I mean? I think there's always gonna be just enough good over there to keep the whole thing from tanking. Speaking only for my self, I know I can't keep away, something keeps pulling me back in. Sure my posts are few and far between, but I always go back. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that I've been there since the great migration (I came over then), and have been witness to the spin-offs, mergers and all the other ****. Lord there's been lots of ****!

Again, speaking only for myself, I think KBZ should try to go clean RS up a bit. Couldn't hurt the place.

Hey! How come I can't say **** anymore? ??? Guess I need to haunt this place a bit more frequently.



Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jadesfire on October 22, 2004, 04:24 PM

Hey! How come I can't say **** anymore? ??? Guess I need to haunt this place a bit more frequently.

I think you have to turn your language filter to "on", or something like that. 

As for RS, I have no idea what goes on beyond props (which is a great section).  I pop in on other sections now and then (usually C3 and MI finds) so I didn't know there was a major meltdown.  Oh well, as long as the trolls leave the prop section alone - I'm happy.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Ben on October 22, 2004, 08:55 PM
I've seen a crazier/worse place than RS.

It's the Red Mosquito board. OCB/Scott might know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, there's always someplace worse is the point. Spastic posting can be fun, if not overdone.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 22, 2004, 11:01 PM
hahah so i just got asked by this one guy who ive was just basically arguing with in wuher's in the wrestling trivia thread if i could be a reference for him in his quest to become a mod. initially i thought no, i don't know you and i dont really care what the hell happens to the scum boards. but then i started thinking, ya know why not be a reference for him, if he became a mod he it would help lead towards the further deterioation of the scum. dilemmas, dilemmas, what do you all think i should do?  ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Diddly on October 23, 2004, 12:52 AM
I wonder if my alter ego could become a mod...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob L on October 23, 2004, 05:13 AM
I wonder if my alter ego could become a mod...

Probably ;D

My reference went to Rob.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 23, 2004, 10:31 AM
Scum definitely isn't the worst board ever. You guys should check out some of the music boards out there. The friendliest board is the HELLBLAZER comic forum. It's badass and other than arguments about how sucky the "Constantine" film will be (starring Canoe Reams), there's hardly a harsh word ever spoken.

Scum's problem is letting children and neanderthals post frequently. It's the same problem with any board really that caters to children. I think message boards should decide who their target audience is and toe the line. Some kids are mature enough to handle posting in an adult forum, but the majority of them just aren't.

If you want a forum predominantly inhabited by children, then you must expect the kind of drama you get at Scum.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 23, 2004, 02:27 PM
ok, i see the points that most of you are making about RS (and wuher's mainly), but isn't it a bit, i dunno, redundant to have an entire thread here complaining about it? i know some people here have stopped posting there (some by choice, some not), but the majority of people here are still regular over at RS. isn't the constant sarcasm and satire most of us dish out over there enough? i don't get the point of complaining about it at an entirely seperate forum that seems to exist solely as a refuge for part time defectors from RS because it has a good-sized population of halfwitted kids with overused keyboards. i still hang around there because i think there are still some worthwhile things going on from time to time. i think wuher's has lost a lot of charm; i've done my part to try to make things interesting over there, but i'm about done with all that. it's not worth the time to me. regardless, i still take part in some discussions that i think are interesting enough to warrant returning. and i know a lot of you here do, as well.
 
if you want to complain about how bad it's gotten there, why not try to start something interesting there? start some threads to make it what you want it to be. otherwise, why complain about it while still participating? i guess i just think complaining about forum boards (particularly star wars toy collecting open topic forums) is pretty silly, especially if you're doing it in ANOTHER star wars toy collecting open topic forum. maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: stormtripper on October 23, 2004, 03:22 PM
I was happy in my Internet bubble for about a year before I even realized that there were forums and discussions going on and sales and trades etc. I still can't say how I stumbled upon the forums in the first place. I don't really come from a strong computer background! I have been using the same used computer that I bought 5 years ago off my wife's friend. Anyway R S was really good to me, I made tons of trades, bought and sold toys without a hitch for well over a year. Then everything started to unravel, the mods were becoming "the police", I had 3 - 4 trades go to the ***** because of deadbeat traders and sellers. I called the mods nazi's, in the sense of their world police, militant rules etc. I was then schooled about the nazi holocahast and booted off the boards for a week or 2, they even wanted me to watch shindlers list as part of my "rehab" ;D Can you believe that? What a f'n joke. R S has gone down hill so fast it should consider entering the giant slalom at the next winter Olympics. I still check it once in a while to see what news they have “borrowed” off other sites as well as make some trades.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Jesse James on October 23, 2004, 04:32 PM
I didn't know you'd pulled the Nazi card and gotten banned too Tripper.

That's kinda funny...  There is over-sensitivity there on many issues, by a vast majority of people.  Tack onto that all the liars, all the completely arrogant people, all the "kids" (not all kids are bad, but the "kids" are guys like Gen Windu, yodaboi, etc. who are considered above and beyond annoying), and all the condescending attitudes.

There's a lotta Comic-Book-Guy syndromes over there...  Especially towards new people (old or young) and it transcends sections of that site.  Vintage has them, Modern areas have them, the film sections have them, and Wuhers has them by the truckload.

Also, there's guys there that simply aren't respectable...  The kind that fight just to fight, argue a point when they're wrong (Some even being proven they were arguing the opposite way in other threads), and won't back down at all...  These are people that simply like hearing themselves talk, and making sure everyone else has eyes on them.  Little attention from their parents, so they crave it on internet forums.

Then there's the political BS...  There's still guys there that think making a point politically is what every post should be about, even when against the rules of the site...  It's one of the few rules Scum tries hard to enforce.

I mean, there's names there that really should've been banned LONG ago, even when it was a half-decent forum, but they still are trolling around...  Some of them are people let back in that were rightfully kicked out in the first place even. 

Yet someone makes a Nazi "joke" because of the over-policing on some issues, and that whole site is up in arms on it.  I'll never get that way of running things.  That's what doesn't make sense, and I think it's the reason for the downhill days.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 23, 2004, 08:28 PM
Also, there's guys there that simply aren't respectable...  The kind that fight just to fight, argue a point when they're wrong (Some even being proven they were arguing the opposite way in other threads), and won't back down at all...  These are people that simply like hearing themselves talk, and making sure everyone else has eyes on them.  Little attention from their parents, so they crave it on internet forums.

Jesse, I think I know who you might be talking about. Hmmm. Anyway.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Famine on October 23, 2004, 09:09 PM
 ;D

I'd go there and sign up again, get as much info about nazi's as I could, and then when they try and hit me with how I don't know what a nazi is, BLAST THEM with my knowledge.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 24, 2004, 02:34 AM
Also, there's guys there that simply aren't respectable...  The kind that fight just to fight, argue a point when they're wrong (Some even being proven they were arguing the opposite way in other threads), and won't back down at all...  These are people that simply like hearing themselves talk, and making sure everyone else has eyes on them.  Little attention from their parents, so they crave it on internet forums.

Jesse, I think I know who you might be talking about. Hmmm. Anyway.

Gimmick Infringement!!!!!!  ;D

Carpeteria: As a response to your last post, I think why most people here are complaining about scum has to do with how those board for the most part have been raped and pillaged from what we knew when it was the BHC. The diluted, watered down, annoying bull**** that goes on there is bothersome. It's hard to find decent conversations there that does not end with some assclown either making a spectacle of themselves or bitching out someone else for disagreeing with them. Plus it's all not about complaining here, we're also entertained by the hypocrisy that goes down there. People who are the worst of the worst, being welcomed back with open arms and literally treated like gods, people claiming they 're "smart" and when proven wrong, huddle in their little corner only to pop back up later on espousing their superior knowledge as if nothing happened. It's some funny stuff there sometimes.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 24, 2004, 01:31 PM
Carpeteria: As a response to your last post, I think why most people here are complaining about scum has to do with how those board for the most part have been raped and pillaged from what we knew when it was the BHC. The diluted, watered down, annoying bull**** that goes on there is bothersome. It's hard to find decent conversations there that does not end with some assclown either making a spectacle of themselves or bitching out someone else for disagreeing with them. Plus it's all not about complaining here, we're also entertained by the hypocrisy that goes down there. People who are the worst of the worst, being welcomed back with open arms and literally treated like gods, people claiming they 're "smart" and when proven wrong, huddle in their little corner only to pop back up later on espousing their superior knowledge as if nothing happened. It's some funny stuff there sometimes.

no, i totally understand. i see it just as much as everyone else here. i just think that coming here and even discussing blatant hypocrisy seems a little odd. it seems obvious that even those who don't post over there still lurk and read up on all the drama. i just think it's better to choose from either trying to make an effort over there to change things (which i weakly did myself for awhile), just leaving it behind, or just coming to terms with whatever bull**** is going on there and participating when wanted. that's about where i am - i'll throw in the occasional sarcasm where i think it might be needed, but otherwise, i'll just be there to be there. otherwise it seems redundant to come here and say "RS is falling apart as we speak" - of course it is. isn't that why most people here are posting at JD instead? it's like going to a metallica is the best band ever forum and starting a thread called "metallica is the best band ever."

at least to me.

i'm cool with everyone here, but it seems like there is a lot of unchecked bitterness about RS sifting around.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 25, 2004, 02:05 PM
A bunch of us were pissed when they shut down the political thread. I really thought that was unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 25, 2004, 02:21 PM
I think the reason bitch about RS here is because they can do so without fear of godlike people zapping them into the great beyond.  I think RS bashing is old though, I quit posting there because its not worth the effort, most of the people I like post here and I want to make an effort to make JD the premier site on the web.

The fact they ban people left and right and there are more kids than adults there is enough for me to turn my back and not look back.  I still read when I can and I cruise the trade boards but to me the BHC died a long time ago and while I still love GH it still pales in comparison to what was.  An large group of adults with a common interest.  When Mike combined with RS and then left again it fractured the community too much and its still sorting itself out.   Why people stayed with RS is a head scratcher, they were helped by the April 23rd surge of 2002 but I would think the lack of community would have driven people away

The most ironic thing of the whole situation to me is that Phil Wise thinks he built the RS boards from the ground up and the traffic and the membership is all his doing.  He seems to forget what he had before Mike gave him the BHC.  I give them credit for keeping interest high, but I also know for a FACT that membership and posting has eroded severely over the last year (swirl baby swirl!)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: HWR on October 28, 2004, 11:21 AM
I thibk you're very rigt about that Scott. I too miss the days of BHC.

Things have actually become better in the vintage section resently, and people trade newcommers more friendly. Sure there are stll some jackasses thre, but also friendly  and helpfull people such as eg. Chris Georgoulias and Michael Mensinger to mention a few.

The vintage trading and vintage clasified sectors are also great and free of hostility.

So all in all RS isn't so bad as some of you guys make it, well exept for Wuhers that is. I don't post in Wuhers anymore exept for the Wrestling and Wrestling  Trivia threads, now that they are sending WWE on tv here in Denmark again.
 
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JoshEEE on October 28, 2004, 03:27 PM
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Why people stayed with RS is a head scratcher, they were helped by the April 23rd surge of 2002 but I would think the lack of community would have driven people away

A community aspect is definitely nice. I do like dropping by here where there's only a handful of active posters and everyone knows everyone else. It's definitely the model for what a community SHOULD be in a perfect world. But it's also probably only a tenth of the size of RS or the bigger sites, and that's why it doesn't have the problems they have.

If someone shows up here and being a jackass....there are like 8 active mods to that one guy who will pounce on him and squelch the problem before it becomes one.  If RS had the same level of moderation, they'd be in the same boat. But the moderators aren't as plentiful, and the decisions about who to ban and who to let continue to wreak havoc are not always their own.


For me, it's the collecting aspect of Rebelscum and the traffic it gets that helps to make it the best collecting site on the web. Find me another site where I can get more responses to a classifed ad, get more local collectors from my area doing store reports and find more answers to my questions faster and I'll gladly go there instead. The local collectors in my area all hang out there or at GH....and that's how I get in touch with them. And none of them are affected by the Wuher's drama or any site policies. Most of them ONLY post to let others know what's at the local Target.

GH is kind of close as far as that whole thing goes, but it's the only one that's even a contender as far as Star Wars collecting is concerned. I find it to be a mirror of RS, so I just stick with RS.

Why go there for chat? Eh....no reason. The chat stuff is just an offshoot of me being there all the time. I'll see (and reply to) a topic in Wuher's because I'm over there checking out my local "Look what I found" thread.

Sure, there are a lot of kids there....and a lot of bickering back and forth, but that's because it's one of the first places people check for Star Wars stuff. TFN refers people there.....and as a Star Wars newbie, that's where you head.

Scum isn't in a "Downward spiral" as this thread title might imply. It's just business as usual in a non-movie year. They could use more moderators. They should empower those moderators to take care of the people that drag the site down, but ultimately, there's still not another collecting site on the web that can touch it as far as what it offers, so that's why I keep going back.

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 28, 2004, 03:40 PM
Again Josh, I have hard core numbers to say that posting at Rebelscum is down big time over the last year (30-40%).  A similar drop off has not occurred at any other site, in fact most show gains.

As far as their news...what was the last major story they broke?  I see their news page as nothing more than posting what other sites have already posted as well as promoting things that are internal to the site such as the Image Archive or sponsor issues

As far as TFN...Phil owns both of them and so the cross promotion is intentional.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 03:59 PM
Eh, who cares.  Just go where you enjoy it.

I hang out in the forums to have fun with my online buddies, and gain a little insight on all things SW.  I've just never gotten any kind of "personal" vibe from RS at all, so it never really "took" with me, and I rarely stop in there anymore.  Most all of my buddies are here.

Yeah, RS is still more active (though declining dramatically) and they've got a lot more members, but that doesn't necessarily equate to better quality.  Some good store reports for some areas though, so that's understandable.

And yeah, Philip got those forums handed to him on a silver platter by Mike.  There'd probably still be a completely empty "Rebel Lounge" over at RS if Mike never made the mistake of (briefly) merging with them.

Lotsa kids at RS.  Lotsa spamming.  Lotsa drama.  Lotsa meaningless drivle.  A few trolls.  But whatever.  It can be entertaining still.  And there's obviously still a few sections there that are helpful.  But whatever.  To each their own.

Maybe this thread's title should've just been "The former BHC continues it's downward spiral", 'cause that spiral really started shortly after the merge a few years ago, and was pretty much cemented after the "un-merge".  A shame really.

But unless you're one of the "old-timers" who was around back in the CSW days (or earlier), you likely won't even notice the decline...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 04:28 PM
I should add, that as for the trading and classifieds sections go, you don't necessarily always get "safety in numbers".  Yeah, you may get quicker and more responses, but you're also gonna get a lot more deadbeats, scam artists, and dumbasses over there.  I've seen a lot of crap happening in those sections over the past year or two, so I don't venture in there nearly as often as I used to.  I love swapping loot with the JD'ers (and I think most others here would agree with this sentiment), simply because I KNOW them all.

I have no fear whatsoever of having any of my buddies or even just casual acquaintances here not coming through with an arranged transaction.  In fact, being the guy who regularly updates the feedback here, I don't think we've ever even had any BAD feedback posted here for a JD member, just warnings on people who have scammed folks at other sites.  So I'm more than happy to rely on the gang here for my occasional needs.  Never had a problem not being able to find something that I was looking for either, despite the "more limited" resources we have over here.  Just a more personal and safer buying/selling/trading environment here, I think...

Works for me, I know that much.   8)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Dimetrodon on October 28, 2004, 04:28 PM

But unless you're one of the "old-timers" who was around back in the CSW days (or earlier), you likely won't even notice the decline...

Dark times. But at least he left and made a better site. As far as Rebelscum having more members... most fo them are jsut a number statistic who don't post. Or remmnant statistics of people like me, who used to post, and have found better places.

Generally I'm not a forum or site basher, But Ihave a pretty big distaste for RS
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 04:30 PM
Sheesh, your avatar is totally messing with my head Andy!  I'm sitting here reviewing the post I just made, and looking at the last one above and thinking, WTF?!?  I didn't just write that!  I was completely confused as to how that go in there...

Duh.  Thought I was going crazy there for a second...  Phew!   :P
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Dimetrodon on October 28, 2004, 04:34 PM
It was the coolest one I could pick. For some reason, I couldn't put up my own...

and to keep this on topic...

Rebelscum = yesterdays news
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JoshEEE on October 28, 2004, 04:52 PM
I think you may have hit the nail on the head there, Matt. I think maybe you have to be someone who was part of the BHC, or even RS 3 or 4 years ago to understand that it's gotten worse.

I joined up 2 or 3 years ago....so RS is what it was then.  I've never really seen a "decline". I've seen ups and downs, but it's always had it's merits that balance it out.

And I've never been screwed (or screwed anyone else) via the classifieds. You just have to be very careful who you deal with and enforce your trading rules.

It also helps if you take about a year to do deals like we did with those Star Tours figures and blasters.   BTW Matt, KBZ and I are about to break our record for the longest trade ever. I've had a couple of clone 3 packs for him for over a year now that we STILL haven't made the deal on.  ;D
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 05:04 PM
It also helps if you take about a year to do deals like we did with those Star Tours figures and blasters.

Hey!  Not fair!  Not my fault!   :P  I mentioned to you that Disneyland had those Stormtrooper Blasters for quite a while, but by the time you finally got your slow butt around to deciding that you really wanted them, they had all mysteriously disappeared from the Star Traders shop.  So I searched, and I searched, and I searched, and finally like 9 months later, the things FINALLY reappeared there!  I think during that time I was holding on to that stupid little Bird Droid for you too, but that was it.

And technically, that wasn't even a "trade", since I hadn't gotten anything on my end.  Just a really long search to pimp your ass some stuff!   ;)

So there!   :-*
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2004, 05:05 PM
Either way, this one is going down in history!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 05:07 PM
Hey Rob, I think I've still got a couple extra Clone 3-packs floating around somewhere.  So if Josh has been dragging your deal down the toilet for a year, feel free to drop me a line and we can cut him out of the equation and finally get you some Clones!   ;)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JoshEEE on October 28, 2004, 05:54 PM
Hey now, the first half of the delay was Rob not having any money at the time I had all the clones. To be fair though, the bigger chunk of time was caused by me packing up all my figures in the move and then not finding them until about a month ago.

It's just like my situation with you Matt. We're just equally lazy.  ;D

But if you have clones too, I think he's still looking for some colors that I'm missing, so you two are welcome to cut me out of the deal if needed. Although I'd miss claiming the new record for longest deal ever,  my armies could always use a few more recruits anyway. ;)

Oops, we're going off topic.

Ahem----eh, Rebelscum sucks! Yeah, that's the ticket.

There, now I fit in again.  :P
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2004, 06:18 PM
Hey now, the first half of the delay was Rob not having any money at the time I had all the clones. To be fair though, the bigger chunk of time was caused by me packing up all my figures in the move and then not finding them until about a month ago.

It's just like my situation with you Matt. We're just equally lazy.  ;D

But if you have clones too, I think he's still looking for some colors that I'm missing, so you two are welcome to cut me out of the deal if needed. Although I'd miss claiming the new record for longest deal ever,  my armies could always use a few more recruits anyway. ;)

Oops, we're going off topic.

Ahem----eh, Rebelscum sucks! Yeah, that's the ticket.

There, now I fit in again.  :P

Yeah, money was tight once upon a time - but now it's no big deal at all.  I think originally I just wanted to wait a week or three so it could be put on the next credit card statement or something like that.   Still, you moving and then not being able to find them, and then not having your room unpacked, and then not sending the pictures accounts for 95% of the delay (don't take that the wrong way, I'm amused and totally happy with the whole thing so far).
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 06:28 PM
Still, you moving and then not being able to find them, and then not having your room unpacked...

Now that is something I'm quite familiar with!   :-\

BTW, I've only got a Lemon flavored 3-pack left.  Sounds like Rob needs Cherry (and Josh's MIA Blueberry)...

Anyone got an extra Red for the man?!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 06:53 PM
 >:( Stay on topic or I'll make their newest mod Dark Kanos come over and shut this bitch down  >:(
Title: Re: Rob's search for Cherry flavored Clones...
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 06:56 PM
>:( Stay on topic or I'll make their newest mod Dark Kanos come over and shut this bitch down  >:(

You need to settle the hell down Jamie.  Check the thread title dude.  We're absolutely ON TOPIC.  Dumbass!   ::)

- Mat(t)
Title: Re: Rob's search for Cherry flavored Clones...
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2004, 07:53 PM
This is my new favorite thread ever.
Title: Re: Rob's search for Cherry flavored Clones...
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 08:30 PM
Words can't express how pissed I am right now, hijackers!  >:(
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Vator on October 28, 2004, 09:04 PM
This is just great!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 09:08 PM
I demand justice, Matt's cousin Mat is doing an awful moderating job today.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Scott on October 28, 2004, 09:15 PM
I've banned the following users

JediMAC

That is all...continue
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2004, 09:17 PM
R.I.P.  :'(
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 09:19 PM
Sweet mother of justice, I am eternally gratefull Mr. OCB.  He should go offer his services at the 'Scum, perhaps they would give him a second chance...
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Scott on October 28, 2004, 09:20 PM
My work here is finished, time to go power sand my toe nails.  Cheers!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 09:23 PM
Good Luck  :-\

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Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 28, 2004, 09:52 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 29, 2004, 03:32 PM
Good thread.  Should have jumped on it sooner.

RS.com has definitely lost everything it had when it was CSW.com.  That site was fun.  RS seems to have no humanity to it.  It's kind of a joke now and for all the reasons already stated.  I'm glad Jamie and Matt turned me onto this site.  I never knew it existed til ComicCon, but then again, most of my "chatting" time was done over at the Spawn Sports Board because SportsPicks are my main hobby now.  This site kicks ass for the simple fact that it's mainly a bunch of clowns here, my kind of people.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JediMAC on October 29, 2004, 05:29 PM
This site kicks ass for the simple fact that it's mainly a bunch of clowns here...

What'd you call me?!?   >:(

Or were you just referring to the rest of the clowns around here?  Yeah, that must've been the case.   8)


And #1 clown Scot(t) better watch his ass, or he's really going to get banned...   ::)

- Mat(t)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 12:11 PM
Pretending that this is still the "Scum continues it's downward spiral" Thread, I'll post this here:



It's officially over! 

They apparently didn't choose me to be a mod.

Instead - going with the superior choice of....

Darth Big Boy.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Scott on November 16, 2004, 12:12 PM
I rarely laugh out loud, but I just did
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 16, 2004, 12:16 PM
wow, is that... really? ok.

well, did you really want it that bad, zod?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 12:17 PM
The end is nigh.

What's next?  Cinemaddiction as a mod?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: DSJ™ on November 16, 2004, 12:19 PM
They apparently didn't choose me to be a mod.

Instead - going with the superior choice of....

Darth Big Boy.

I rarely laugh out loud, but I just did

I just followed Scott's lead!  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rotfl.gif)

Quote
Today we promoted Darth_Big_Boy to moderator in the Wuhers forum.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Deanpaul on November 16, 2004, 12:23 PM
Pretending that this is still the "Scum continues it's downward spiral" Thread, I'll post this here:



It's officially over! 

They apparently didn't choose me to be a mod.


I’m pretty certain “the Eye of Philip” surveyed this thread. I would be naïve to think the things said here go unnoticed at ‘scum.

They’re making a list, they’re checking it twice.

I'd offer my condolences, but I honestly think you've come out ahead on this one. Being a mod a RS seems to be a no win, statistically speaking.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Deanpaul on November 16, 2004, 12:25 PM
I'd offer my condolences, but I honestly think you've come out ahead on this one. Being a mod a RS seems to be a no win, statistically speaking.

Damn! See that? I just blew my chances of ever modding over there.

Oh wait, I don't even post there anymore. Maybe that fact alone makes me an ideal mod?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 12:27 PM
Given the fact that they'd pick DBB I think you're right DP.

Of course, if they came over here and read that I had reservations about it, I'd hardly be the frontrunner for the job.  But it's a little insulting regardless given the choice they made.   At least I seemed to be the popular choice among the proletariats...
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Jeff on November 16, 2004, 01:16 PM
I heartily support the decision!  I would also encourage Scum to add General Windu, YodaBoi, and Dark Kanos next.  That trio would be able to keep Scum safe for illiterate posters everywhere banning all those who mock their inability to use the grammar correctly.

Imagine...

'I saw thet a guy who wuz the forums tryed to post a politcol thred and I baned him!"

 ::)

Jeff
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 01:20 PM
Haha.

I'm starting to wonder if they might have not been done deciding on if they wanted more (because they left the thread in the forum feedback section open) and I'm shooting myself in the foot for consideration from here on out.

So be it.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 16, 2004, 01:24 PM
that avatar of his is all the more interesting, now.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Diddly on November 16, 2004, 05:59 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/3429.gif)

Too bad he didn't use a picture of himself. That would have made the avatar MUCH better! :D

I'm starting to wonder if there is any hope in reviving the Scum.

----------

I may go over there and do some spamming sometime. You know, some DBB quality threads (just a link). My excuse can be: "But the mods do it... why can't I?" ;D
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob L on November 16, 2004, 06:25 PM
Hopefully there will be more mods to come…

…I thought when an ex-mod (i.e. myself ;D) voted for someone, then that would score highly with the big PW.  But apparently not  :-[
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2004, 06:33 PM
Saw it just a while ago...  Pretty interesting.  As much as I know DBB's popularity, he's not a bad person at least...  In that regard, they could've DEFINITELY made worse choices...

Jeff's, to be exact.

But, yeah, it does have to be somewhat of an insult to you KBZ, considering... 

He's got the qualities they want.  He's there 24/7 it seems, he is generally indifferent from what I've seen, and GNT seems to have set the tone for post padding being somewhat of a plus as well.

So be it...

The horsemen of the RS apocalypse are Jeff's picks though.  *shudder*

They're a kindergarten class run amock.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Vator on November 16, 2004, 08:57 PM
Appereantly Lady Jaye is also a moderator there.

LJ, if you're even still allowed to post here, please tell us you'll advance some reforms on RS!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Diddly on November 16, 2004, 09:42 PM
Lady Jaye bringing decency to the Scum? I SERIOUSLY doubt it. She's probably one of the WORST padders there, only behind GNT.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 10:23 PM
Lady Jaye bringing decency to the Scum? I SERIOUSLY doubt it. She's probably one of the WORST padders there, only behind GNT.

Not only is she terrible when it comes to that, but she's been on haitus for months now.  She's going to just be granted moderator status after that?

Given the types of people they want as mods over there, I'm officially eternally grateful to have NOT been chosen.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: General Grievous on November 16, 2004, 10:31 PM
LJ a mod? That place is becoming even ********. KBZ is the only one who deserves the position.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 16, 2004, 10:32 PM
What the ****, I thought this thread died out long ago, and I turn around and it's still alive! Now I know why I got that cryptic message from Angry Ewok a while back! :P

So yeah scum as usual brings in some ****** up choices for mods, but then again they're mods for wuher's so you might as well let the morons mod each other. Isn't that how GNT got modded?

If it wasn't for that wrestling trivia thread (of which I 0wned all who block my path), I'd never stop into Wuher's. It's just that thread and just the vintage section I visit there now, and sometimes seeing the same posts about scams and not so scams on ebay can be a bit boring. Hell I don't even want to go into the customs section, especially with all the ass-kissing going on in there (JJ: I swear if that happens on the FForums I'm going to blow it up!  >:() So to recap, Scum = teh suck, JD = teh not suck!  :D
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Diddly on November 16, 2004, 11:14 PM
LJ a mod? That place is becoming even ********. KBZ is the only one who deserves the position.

Damn, Durge, isn't this your millionth name here?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 16, 2004, 11:18 PM
LJ a mod? That place is becoming even ********. KBZ is the only one who deserves the position.

Damn, Durge, isn't this your millionth name here?

It's a millionth and one me thinks. I don't get what purpose it serves, too bad they won't let him back in on scum, then he wouldn't be fouling up this place.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 17, 2004, 12:39 AM
wait durge - what's the deal with the invisible hand guy? is that you?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: General Grievous on November 17, 2004, 12:41 AM
I am not ivisiblehand. I read YodaBoi's thread and got a pretty good laugh out of it. I hope they ban him (invisible hand, not yodaboi, however yodaboi would be good too). That would prove that the admin there are clueless.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: DSJ™ on November 17, 2004, 08:34 AM
Lady Jaye = 42 posts since she became a Mod!  ::)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2004, 10:17 AM
Lady Jaye = 42 posts since she became a Mod!  ::)

I'd be willing to bet that less than 1 of them had any degree of substance whatsoever.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on November 17, 2004, 11:21 AM
I'm both shocked and amazed that the good "Lady" is a mod now.  I really don't know what else to say about it, other than at this point I really hope they make someone like General Windu or Yoda Boi a mod as well so the transformation into hell can be complete.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: stormie on November 17, 2004, 12:45 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the problem many of you have with LJ? Yeah, she posts a lot and her spelling, syntax and grammar are sometimes atrocious, but everything I've read from her has been pretty straight forward and respectful of others. Since when did posting a lot be a "bad" thing? And as far as "substance," I don't think you should actually expect to find much of it on any toy-collecting forums. Like I said before, RS is pretty entertaining because of its geek-fest posting, and if they could get rid of the disrespectful dimwits that post there, it'd be even more so.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Xander on November 17, 2004, 12:54 PM
Ok, back to Zod.  I must have missed - did we vote or something over there?  Cuz I was all set to send in this letter of recommendation on my company's letterhead and everything.  Forged endorsements from foreign heads of state too. I would have at least PM'd the approriate head guy there. 

"Oh man, we spaced on the election day - it was yesterday!"
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 17, 2004, 12:59 PM

I'd be willing to bet that less than 1 of them had any degree of substance whatsoever.

but... only zero is less than one... ohhhhhhh.

anyone notice how many threads DBB has started since his knighthood? it's kinda cute.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Bob Crane on November 17, 2004, 01:01 PM
I really hope they make someone like General Windu or Yoda Boi a mod as well so the transformation into hell can be complete.

Ahhhhh, that would be so awesome!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2004, 01:47 PM
And as far as "substance," I don't think you should actually expect to find much of it on any toy-collecting forums. Like I said before, RS is pretty entertaining because of its geek-fest posting, and if they could get rid of the disrespectful dimwits that post there, it'd be even more so.

There's lack of substance, then there's lack of substance.  We're not talking about a dissertation on nuclear physics versus a tirade about the price of the VOTC.  We're talking about the difference between a thread on the Incredibles or some generic movie and what you liked about it versus a bunch of posts soley comprised of :) 's and !!!!!!!!'s. 

Some people treat it like a chat room where anything that flutters into your head must be posted. 
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2004, 04:33 PM
I've always gotten along with LJ, but I have to admit that what's being said is true.  She's a post-count/padding champion.  She always has been, and it's cost her respect from a vast majority.

I don't mind DBB as a person either...  I think LJ and DBB are probably good people.  The same can't be said for my opinion of the other monkeys in the cage, like Yoda Boi, General Windu, etc...  Those guys irk the **** out of me because their personalities are in the toilet along with their habits at the site. 

That said though, DBB and LJ tend to not represent ideals in behavior, especially from a site that bitches about post-padding like Scum does.  They hired GNT though, so the tone has been set.  What can you really say about it at this point?

Anything's fair game I guess.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 17, 2004, 06:34 PM
Yeah pretty much what JJ and KBZ have said is the truth, you have these people who clearly don't have the concept of how a message board is to be used now becoming moderators and only setting bad examples for the other members many of which themselves have no clue. The thing to remember though is that these kind of people gravitate towards scum, first it was GNT, then it was banky and sithlordtoys, then it was durge and lady jaye, now its people like general windu and yoda boi. It's not something the scum can escape from, but it sure does make for some entertaining spectacles.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Logray2776 on November 17, 2004, 09:29 PM
Wow rebelscum has become quite entertaining as of late, hasn't it? I do have one question though, why is it that defender only needs a few mods, and scum likes to have 10 or more in the catina?

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but i very rarely post over that way any more.


                                             Claude
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 17, 2004, 09:38 PM
Wow rebelscum has become quite entertaining as of late, hasn't it? I do have one question though, why is it that defender only needs a few mods, and scum likes to have 10 or more in the catina?

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but i very rarely post over that way any more.


                                             Claude

Well Logray I'm sure there are several valid reasons for why JD only needs a couple of mods as opposed to a dozen at Scum for their "Off Topic" section. One reason would be that the amount of people going thru scum is higher and  as such more idiots go thru there than here at JD. Another reason of course would be that the mods here are you know, competent.

Rock rock on!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2004, 09:57 PM
Age is probably a huge factor too.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JoshEEE on November 18, 2004, 02:34 AM
I must admit to being blown away when I stopped by the scum earlier today. I'm gone only a few days and it goes to hell.

DBB is a good choice for mod (he's there all the time and generally level headed) but passing KBZ over for the queen of extra punctuation marks?

Did they feel there was a shortage of smiley faces or something?

Christ.


BTW.....someone apparently finally "outed" Lady Jaye by posting a picture of her in a thread tonight, which was quickly removed.

"Lady Jaye" herself said that this girl had the same name, but that the picture wasn't her (is this another Gregg/Greg situation?). Did I miss some detective work over the last few days?  ;D


(http://www.yesprep.org/Photo_Album/Class_of_2002/Bertha.jpg)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2004, 02:48 AM
Greg(g) thing is exactly what I thought...  Good eye to get it before removed.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Xander on November 18, 2004, 07:57 AM
So its Bertha, is it?  The picture is back up at Scum, so it was quickly removed, then denied, then put back up? Hmmm.

I guess we could ask those people that she listed, if we wanted to.

I've been put off by some of Lady Jaye's shenannigans, like the posting of "provocative" pictures of racists just to instigate fights, and the the majority of posts I don't even read as they just seem to fill out threads with punctuation. I always liked discussing certain things with her though.  Still, she ain't exactly mod material.

Too much fun!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: stormie on November 18, 2004, 09:17 AM
There's lack of substance, then there's lack of substance.  We're not talking about a dissertation on nuclear physics versus a tirade about the price of the VOTC.  We're talking about the difference between a thread on the Incredibles or some generic movie and what you liked about it versus a bunch of posts soley comprised of :) 's and !!!!!!!!'s. 

Some people treat it like a chat room where anything that flutters into your head must be posted. 

I guess I've never really understood the whole post-padding problem and why it has to be a problem. Everyone has been guilty at one time or another of posting a pointless or obvious (often rude) remark. I guess lack of substance is subjective...which I think is the root of the whole problem.

Overall, though, LJ and DBB seem to me to have always been respectful of others, and even if it means more overall posts, that's a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 18, 2004, 10:25 AM
Overall, though, LJ and DBB seem to me to have always been respectful of others, and even if it means more overall posts, that's a step in the right direction.

DBB sure, but time and time again LJ has inched dangerously close to blatant racism in her remarks - and been called out for it.

BTW - the consensus is roughly 99% sure that the picture IS her.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Famine on November 18, 2004, 11:47 AM
I don't get it. I plaster my ugly mug all over the internet and TV with no problem. These guys get found out, and WHAM, "No, it's my cousin, The Master." etc. Your rouse of mysteriousness has been lifted. Get over it and move on.

Oh well, it's just more fuel for the fire.

Kevin
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: stormie on November 18, 2004, 12:42 PM
LJ has inched dangerously close to blatant racism in her remarks - and been called out for it.

Hmmm. Haven't seen any evidence of this myself. I do remember a big hubbub about her use of an ambiguous Hitler quote or something at her school, but, to me that was all about stirring the pot at her school, the ethics, the moral dilemmas, etc. (the usual stuff you go through in college), and not hatred. However, everyone and anyone can be offended easily by anything or everything, so that thread seemed to devolve quickly. I think if she were really showing and posting her hatred, I don't think she'd still be around. I think the easily-offended PC crowd is the minority.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 18, 2004, 12:45 PM
BTW - the consensus is roughly 99% sure that the picture IS her.

as stupid as it is to be scrutinizing this, the link for the picture takes you to a Houston area prep school, and the picture "bertha" is from the class of 2002. i don't really know anything about her, but isn't she from around that area? and didn't she just start college? seems about right.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on November 18, 2004, 01:28 PM
I'm fairly certain it's her cousin berthaa
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Famine on November 18, 2004, 01:37 PM
I'm fairly certain it's her cousin berthaa

You rock.

Kevin(n)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 18, 2004, 01:42 PM
LJ has inched dangerously close to blatant racism in her remarks - and been called out for it.

Hmmm. Haven't seen any evidence of this myself. I do remember a big hubbub about her use of an ambiguous Hitler quote or something at her school, but, to me that was all about stirring the pot at her school, the ethics, the moral dilemmas, etc. (the usual stuff you go through in college), and not hatred. However, everyone and anyone can be offended easily by anything or everything, so that thread seemed to devolve quickly. I think if she were really showing and posting her hatred, I don't think she'd still be around. I think the easily-offended PC crowd is the minority.

Yeah - but that wasn't the first time.

Despite my repuation, I'm not a guy who cares what people say or and I'm not really into all that PC stuff that much, and I'm certainly not easily-offended.  But defending anything said by Hitler because it could be good in another context was a bit much IMO.  Either way, it probably won't come up again. 
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JediMAC on November 19, 2004, 08:27 PM
Good God, I can't believe I haven't checked this thread yet since my return from MN!

Excellent!

So who deserves the credit for solving another of the World's Greatest Mysteries?!

Bertha(a), indeed.  Exactly what I thought when I perused her (self-congratulating) thread over at RS.

And I've never seen another RS member discuss their post count anywhere close to as much as Bertha has.  Not even Greg(g).  She'd always make a comment like "Hey, I'm almost a Grand Moff, not that I actually care about post counts, or anything..."  Yeah right.  I think only close to half of her posts over there mentioned it in some form or another...   ::)

Moderator?  Shocking.  Really.  But it shouldn't be, after Greg(g)'s appointment a while back...

But at least she proved all you naysayers wrong though, and finally showed you that she was indeed a chick (I think).   ;)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JediMAC on November 19, 2004, 09:10 PM
Boy, Bertha sure ain't too happy with her newfound fame and fortune of being an RS mod, it looks like.  Sounds like maybe she should contact Greg(g)'s lawyer to figure out how best to proceed...

What's ironic, is that she's getting all pissy about anyone having her personal information, yet Phillip fired half of his moderators over at TheForce.net earlier this year for NOT giving him all of their personal information.  Weird.   :P
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: DSJ™ on November 19, 2004, 09:11 PM
One big soap opera to me, better than Digital Cable!  ;D
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JediMAC on November 19, 2004, 09:12 PM
Maybe.  That depends on what channels you've got.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: DSJ™ on November 19, 2004, 09:15 PM
 :P
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 19, 2004, 09:15 PM
Ok so let me get this straight. Lady Jaye had her pic available on the net and is freaked out someone found it? Why have your pic on the net then? On the other hand, someone has no other goal in life but to look for a pic of a moderator of a low-class section of a star wars collecting forum? All sorts of ****edupness there.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Ben on November 19, 2004, 10:12 PM
RS sucks.

I still post there and use the Look What I Found section often, but they've lost sight of the reason they're there in the first place.

And their topics in the collecting areas just....suck.

And you can't say '****' there either.



*snobbiest JD post ever.*
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Darth Kenobi on November 19, 2004, 10:40 PM
Thank god that I have GH and JD to hang out in most of the time.   The promotion of DDB and Lady Jaye just shows how much respect Phillip has for his community.  DDB to me is okay but wouldn't be my first choice for the spot.  Lady Jaye is up there with Greeg(g) as far as lack of qualfiications to watch over the fourms.  It also funny reading Jaye's reply to her picture being posted online and all of the stuff she has to say about it.  I would think she would be happy since it means she has proof that she is actually a Lady and not a man.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Vator on November 19, 2004, 11:28 PM
Happy times have returned to rebelscum it seems.
New mods for the new Year.
perhaps there has been a Famine of intellegence in those forums for years.

Anyway, I remember when me and DS made our attack. Sadly it was short lived and reconstruction was already underway by the time everyone could see it.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Famine on November 19, 2004, 11:30 PM
Someday there will be somthing of legend to ring in a new begining, and maybe, just MAYBE, RS wont suck so bad.

Kevin
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 12:11 AM
Man... I saw this thread's new title and was gonna come in here and ask what everyone thought of Valor Vs. Venom...  >:(
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JediMAC on November 20, 2004, 01:08 AM
Hah.  Sorry for the confusion Rob.  Here ya' go:

GI Joe Toys Thread (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=2481.0)

Knock yourself out.   ;)

Or, you can talk about GI Joe in here too, since it's somewhat on topic now...   :P
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2004, 01:26 AM
I had to drop by because I heard this thread was back up. Am I nuts, or was it removed earlier in the day?  Maybe the title was just changed....but I swear this thread was gone altogether.


Anyway....my congratulations to whomever discovered the identity of "Lady" Jaye and posted that pic. 

I haven't seen someone this foolishly indignant about information they voluntarily gave out over the internet since that Grandmother on the news who gave her Credit Card number to an authentic Paypal website hoping Bill Gates was going to send her 5 million dollars.


I love how I'm the current whipping boy even though I had nothing to do with this whole thing.  For all the blame being thrown my way, I would love to at least be able to point and say "Yeah, I did that".

Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Bob Crane on November 20, 2004, 01:33 AM
If possible, could some kind soul post a link to LJ's picture? I can't check the RS forum, but I'm so goshdarned surprised that LJ is actually a woman, that I feel compelled to have a lookey at the previously uber-mysterious visage.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JediMAC on November 20, 2004, 01:45 AM
Just check the prior page of this thread.   ;)

I had to drop by because I heard this thread was back up. Am I nuts, or was it removed earlier in the day?  Maybe the title was just changed....but I swear this thread was gone altogether.

Nope, it's been here all along Josh.  I came right in here when I saw that first JD mention earlier today, and it was sitting several threads down.  The title change didn't happen until later this afternoon though...
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2004, 02:06 AM
Ok....I'm smoking crack then. Sorry, I should lay off that shiznit before bedtime.

So, I noticed that LJ edited the closed thread yet again with yet another denial saying that picture isn't her.

The funniest thing is it SO eerily close to Gregg's "That's my cousin" defense (claiming to be much older than the person in the picture) that it made me wonder if that's the standard defense when one is "discovered" nowadays.

BTW...I'd like to say that I'm really 50, and not the 30 that people accused me of being in the birthday thread a few days ago here.

How else could I have been in College with George Lucas when he came up with the idea for Star Wars?????
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 02:20 AM
Wait Josh, I thought you told me that it was you that came up with the idea for Star Wars and Lucas stole it.

Hence the crappy prequels.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2004, 02:34 AM
Hey, don't blame the prequels on me.
After he made all the money with the whole Star Wars thing, it kind of changed him. When I knew him in college, we were all about making a classic with models and puppets.

Unfortunately, I think all the glue fumes got to him.  ;D

Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: CorranHorn on November 20, 2004, 02:38 AM
well I saw the thread on scum that started this tangent and man she is sure paranoid about the whole situation. though at the same time i actually do agree with her that private info given to someone shouldnt be shared by that someone,

with that said I thought John Hamm's posts were down right hilarious  ;D
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 02:41 AM
with that said I thought John Hamm's posts were down right hilarious  ;D

They pretty much always are!
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2004, 03:10 AM
Quote
well I saw the thread on scum that started this tangent and man she is sure paranoid about the whole situation. though at the same time i actually do agree with her that private info given to someone shouldnt be shared by that someone,

I agree with you there too. If I had cared enough to find out that info myself when I had "The power"....I wouldn't have posted it or anything. While it might have been funny, that's just not my thing.

However, when someone finally let the cat of the bag (and posted a picture no less) I figured it's fair game. Once the secret is out, I feel it's free information and she should have just rolled with it. No one would have cared.

Her desperate attempts at a cover up was as stupid as Ashley Simpson blaming her band for her lip synching and "Doing a hoe down".  It just makes her look dumb, and that's why I have no sympathy.

That and the fact she called me a bunch of names for simply repeating something that someone else already discovered.

Bleh. Who needs the drama?
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2004, 03:14 AM
Scum's been as interesting as ever.  Seriously.

That's such a sad, sad statement of affairs there.  The place is a train wreck.  It was before, but now it's just 10 x worse. 

It's funny to watch from afar though.  Incase I need to find something new to be thankful for, it is having a place separate of that clusterf of stupidity.

I honestly don't mind DBB and LJ as people, but neither one is fit to mod there.  I don't know that anyone can manage that 3-ring fiasco, plus the sideshow too.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: CorranHorn on November 20, 2004, 03:17 AM
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well I saw the thread on scum that started this tangent and man she is sure paranoid about the whole situation. though at the same time i actually do agree with her that private info given to someone shouldnt be shared by that someone,

I agree with you there too. If I had cared enough to find out that info myself when I had "The power"....I wouldn't have posted it or anything. While it might have been funny, that's just not my thing.

However, when someone finally let the cat of the bag (and posted a picture no less) I figured it's fair game. Once the secret is out, I feel it's free information and she should have just rolled with it. No one would have cared.

Her desperate attempts at a cover up was as stupid as Ashley Simpson blaming her band for her lip synching and "Doing a hoe down".  It just makes her look dumb, and that's why I have no sympathy.

That and the fact she called me a bunch of names for simply repeating something that someone else already discovered.

Bleh. Who needs the drama?

yeah it's her defense of saying its not her that is going against her, not whether or not it is her.  from what i can tell the picture/link was deleted by her, i think that's what screwed her over. if she leaves it be and just says hey it isnt me, then that's that, people can think all they want, but she pressed on and on about it. but yeah it's all just drama, but that's all that the scum is good for, well that and owning in wrestling trivia  ;D
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 11:41 AM
Hey, don't blame the prequels on me.
After he made all the money with the whole Star Wars thing, it kind of changed him. When I knew him in college, we were all about making a classic with models and puppets.

Unfortunately, I think all the glue fumes got to him.  ;D



(The joke was that you weren't around anymore to steal ideas from so he had to think of the prequels on his own - which is why they aren't very good)   ;)
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 11:43 AM
I honestly don't mind DBB and LJ as people, but neither one is fit to mod there.  I don't know that anyone can manage that 3-ring fiasco, plus the sideshow too.

That's a more fair assessment.  I don't think anyone around here is honestly disliking people for who they are (except maybe one or two...) but saying that time and time again the wrong people are picked to run the show over there.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: hansolo_506 on November 20, 2004, 12:14 PM
Rebelscum, courtesy of Wuhrers, is continuing a steady decent into hell.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2004, 04:32 PM
Yeah, the people everyone generally DOES dislike have their own threads.  Like GNT, the "kids" club, etc.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Diddly on November 20, 2004, 11:43 PM
I have never witnessed YodaBoi's wrath of stupidity until tonight.

We need 50cc's of intelligence, stat!
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2004, 12:12 AM
My personal favorite moment of brilliance for him, at this moment anyway, is the fact he's single-handedly getting a thread going for EVERY figure in the recent E3 figure list, and giving them their OWN topics one at a time.

Very classy, and smart.    :-X  Brilliance.

I don't have the foggiest clue what motivates these people.  Why they have to see their words typed out in public.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Scott on November 21, 2004, 12:14 AM
That's **** Greg(g) started back in the OTC section.  Someone used to start a thread by wave, but, being the paranoid freakazoid he is, he'd start his own thread on each damn figure
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: CorranHorn on November 21, 2004, 12:39 AM
I have never witnessed YodaBoi's wrath of stupidity until tonight.

We need 50cc's of intelligence, stat!

you should follow the wrestling trivia thread more often then. i've called him out 4 times on giving false answers to his own questions or not being able to back up his answers. he's also quite fond of jumping the gun and ignoring what others are currently doing in the thread. i enjoy putting him in his place on a regular basis in that thread
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Diddly on November 21, 2004, 01:02 AM
Yeah, that's where I interacted with him. He kept giving the STUPIDEST answers ever. For example, I would ask who wrestled in a certain match at a certain event, and he would respond with EVERY wrestler who wrestled at said event. It's crazy.

EDIT: I see that Angry Ewok's "friend" JediKnight567865827658619 has returned... should be interesting to see what he does.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: CorranHorn on November 21, 2004, 01:27 AM
Yeah, that's where I interacted with him. He kept giving the STUPIDEST answers ever. For example, I would ask who wrestled in a certain match at a certain event, and he would respond with EVERY wrestler who wrestled at said event. It's crazy.

EDIT: I see that Angry Ewok's "friend" JediKnight567865827658619 has returned... should be interesting to see what he does.

yeah he does the same **** to me all the time, it reallly pisses me off. perhaps we shuld do a wrestling trivia thread here instead if there's enough interest :)

oh gawd that jediknight9021023129042317452 guy is another pain in the ass
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Diddly on November 21, 2004, 02:16 AM
I doubt there would be any interest here unless it was old school stuff from the 80's, but you never know. :)

Looks like the [edit]  is really on the ball with his knowledge of JD's relationship with Durge... ::)


Edit by AE:
Shame on you.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Famine on November 21, 2004, 01:43 PM
I'd be game for a Wrestling Trivia thread.

Kevin
Title: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jjks on November 21, 2004, 11:33 PM
I see you sometimes listed on the active users list, but you never seem to post here. That makes me kind of sad. Holla at your boy girlfriend!



Rats...she left without saying hello  >:(


I think I have BM in my pants  :-[
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 21, 2004, 11:48 PM
I just came cause I heard all the **** you guys have been saying about me. Just wanted to see if it was true or not. I mean I expect this kind of sh1t from an atangonistic bastards like JoshEEE, but not from guys I used to be cool with. Oh well, I guess live and learn, no matter how nice you are, you get talked about anyway.

Hey Stormie, thanks for trying to stick up for me, I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!
Post by: jjks on November 21, 2004, 11:50 PM
I just came cause I heard all the **** you guys have been saying about me. Just wanted to see if it was true or not. I mean I expect this kind of sh1t from an atangonistic bastards like JoshEEE, but not from guys I used to be cool with. Oh well, I guess live and learn, no matter how nice you are, you get talked about anyway.

Hey Stormie, thanks for trying to stick up for me, I appreciate it.

This board lets you say ****, you don't have to hide it.

Cool huh?
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 21, 2004, 11:54 PM
You know with all this talk about useless posts and post padding and what not, what does it really matter?? I mean in the end, are we all just a bunch of adults talking about a freaking toy line here??? I mean how serious can these conversations get??? Shouldn't we be concerned about about just having fun, and escaping the real world for a bit, instead of bitching and moaning about a site you don't come to anymore, or a site you talk about when you're not there!!! Anyhow anything else you want to say to me JJKS????
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jjks on November 21, 2004, 11:56 PM
umm...welcome back?
 
 :o

 :o

 :o

 :o
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 12:39 AM
Is that it?? No jokes, no put downs?? Where's the rest of my fan club, just waiting to make fun of me.  I mean is this what has become of what was once the great collectstarwars.com communtiy , a bunch of hatefull, spitefull, persons that spit in the face of one your own, one that has never said a bad thing about any of you. Someone that has been with you guys since back in '01??

The GI JOE appreciation thread is a real class act fellas. Nice to see you guys have fun at our expense!!!
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: CorranHorn on November 22, 2004, 12:49 AM
Is that it?? No jokes, no put downs?? Where's the rest of my fan club, just waiting to make fun of me.  I mean is this what has become of what was once the great collectstarwars.com communtiy , a bunch of hatefull, spitefull, persons that spit in the face of one your own, one that has never said a bad thing about any of you. Someone that has been with you guys since back in '01??

The GI JOE appreciation thread is a real class act fellas. Nice to see you guys have fun at our expense!!!

actually what has become of the once great csw community is directly linked to the decay of the rebelscum forums, most notably wuher's cantina. add to that the splitting of peoples do to the formation of galactichunter and other sites and csw community, aka the bounty hunter's collective is sadly extinct

that thread actually speaks many truths about the actions going on. there are certainly some less than savory comments made, as i can't speak for others i won't  try to explain them, however I know that much of what is said is from the true experiences that go on most notably in wuhers.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Rob on November 22, 2004, 12:52 AM
Being as that was a direct reference to me, I can only say what I already said to you.

A)  Anything I posted here was not an attempt to talk about you behind your back - it was on the internet and in the public domain.   The conversation is here and I assumed rebelscum folks would see it one way or another.  Tons of people who don't post here pop on in and read along.  Simple as that.  

B)  I'm glad I wasn't picked to be a mod over there.  Simple as that.

C)  I know you don't believe me, but again, I didn't give out your name.   Someone else gave it out or someone found it in a profile or you told someone you're not recalling or so on and so forth.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:03 AM
So yeah scum as usual brings in some ****** up choices for mods, but then again they're mods for wuher's so you might as well let the morons mod each other. Isn't that how GNT got modded?

Like I said Corran Horn I have never said a bad thing about most of you guys. And yet you come over here and instead of trying to help, you just sit there and degrade us.

I mean people like JediMac, DSJ, and the other mods, whom I've never said a bad thing about, are over here just talking all sorts of ****!!! Thanks guys, you keep the collectstarwars memory glowing!!!
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jokabofe on November 22, 2004, 01:06 AM
Alright, that's enough of this nonsense. If you guys have a problem, take it to pm. Or take it back to Rebelscum where it belongs.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Rob on November 22, 2004, 01:07 AM
You're missing the point.  I don't want to moderate the 12 year olds who do the majority of the posting over there.  I passed on applying in the past and it was a mistake to apply this time around. 

And since I've told you 5 times now that I didn't give out your name, and you haven't once responded.  I'll say it again.

I didn't give out your name.  I didn't even remember it until all this crap with your picture unfolded.

I'm not into message board drama so I'll leave it at that.  I'm not going to beg to be believed.  But if you're going to pin that one on me, you're looking in the wrong place.

Goodnight.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:10 AM
Alright, that's enough of this nonsense. If you guys have a problem, take it to pm. Or take it back to Rebelscum where it belongs.

But I thought what with the GI JOE appreciation thread, that this was a perfect place to let the former scummers get shots in on my expense??? Or is it just that I am not supposed to fight back, and just sit here and take all the slaps in the face comments and what not, from people I have never said a bad thing about!!!! Oh yeah, real mature guys around here, real mature!!!

I mean forgive me for raining on your parade of insults and jokes aimed at my expense.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jokabofe on November 22, 2004, 01:14 AM
All I'm saying is this: when one of "our guys" starts stuff like this over at Rebelscum, we get emails from Philip telling us to stop doing it, and respect his forums. I'm sure he's going to love seeing one of his own moderators coming over here and starting trouble. And before you say it, yes, I know you did not start this thread, but that isn't the point. The point of this thread was jjks wondering why you were popping in and out without making a post.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:16 AM
Look I'm sorry for doing this, but it hurts seeing people you thought were at least cool with, come over here and just talk trash to no end, behind your back. But wouldn't you want to face the people talking about you?? And this has nothing to do with the scum, it's between people that have made fun of or insulted me!!
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jokabofe on November 22, 2004, 01:17 AM
And once again - and for the last time - if you have a problem with someone here, talk/argue/bitch/whatever with that person through a personal message, not on the forum.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:19 AM
Fine, no problem, but I would ask that if people start talking bad about me that you would put a stop to it immediatley. I mean I know this is not the kind of legacy collectstarwars.com would want.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jjks on November 22, 2004, 01:22 AM
Not to speak on behalf on the actual staff here, but this site doesn't have a thing to do with (what once was) CollectStarWars.

I believe you have them confused with Galactic Hunter...
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jokabofe on November 22, 2004, 01:25 AM
You beat me to it... why do you (LJ) keep mention collectstarwars.com? What does that have to do with anything? Like Jamie said, we have never had anything to do with collectstarwars.com with the exception that some of our members were once members over there. Other than that, there's no connection. Or at least as far as I know.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: CorranHorn on November 22, 2004, 01:37 AM
So yeah scum as usual brings in some ****** up choices for mods, but then again they're mods for wuher's so you might as well let the morons mod each other. Isn't that how GNT got modded?

Like I said Corran Horn I have never said a bad thing about most of you guys. And yet you come over here and instead of trying to help, you just sit there and degrade us.

I mean people like JediMac, DSJ, and the other mods, whom I've never said a bad thing about, are over here just talking all sorts of ****!!! Thanks guys, you keep the collectstarwars memory glowing!!!

ya know you're right, probably not the nicest thing to be said, however as i said in my previous post, whatever has been said was based on true experiences as well as observations. the post you quoted from me was my own opinion based on the actions of yourself and the other new wuher mod, immediately following your modness being granted as well as my observations of the crapitude that is wuhers which has spread to much of the rebelscum forums (there's your answer for what happened to the csw community). i'm not going to take back all of what i said above as it's already been stated, but i will say sorry for inferring to you solely as a moron if you took it as such. however keep in mind that people will form their own opinions on others based on the actions of those others. the opinion you can form of me right now is that I'm an *******, which is sometimes the case, but not always. that goes for all people. a word of advice though, in the end try not to let the opinions of others bug you so much, it will only drive you nuts.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:42 AM
And like I said, it is an attack on me and my abilities, without giving me a chance first. And from someone that has never said a bad thing about you!!! That's the most important part.

But anyhow I will not argue with anyone per jokabofe's request. If you want we can continue this via PM.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Angry Ewok on November 22, 2004, 01:55 AM
Our staff shouldn't have to ask more than once for it to be taken to PM.

Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 02:58 AM
Boy, looks like I missed all the drama tonight!  Speaking of "mod powers", I'm going to abuse mine right now, and reply to this already locked thread, just to get my 2 cents in, so LJ can understand where I (and others) are coming from...

I mean people like JediMac, DSJ, and the other mods, whom I've never said a bad thing about, are over here just talking all sorts of ****!!!

I wouldn't say I'm talking all kinds of **** about you Bertha.  I just said that I've never seen anyone (aside from maybe Gregg) who was so concerned with their post counts and rankings.  You mentioned it ALL THE TIME over there, and it just gets annoying after awhile - especially when you keep trying to suggest that you really don't care about the post counts (not at all true).  I also don't think you're a very good choice for the mod gig there, just as I didn't think Gregg was a good choice.  Just 'cause someone posts a million times, often with little quality or significance, does not mean they're the best person to "moderate" your forums.  IMO, it sets a poor example for the other members, and a bad precedent for the community as a whole.

But Rebelscum is different in that respect though, since Phillip has made it blatantly obvious that he prefers quantity over quality.  That's his prerogative of course, and choosing mods such as Gregg and yourself are perfect examples of what he's truly striving for over there.  On the flipside of that however, are sites like us and GH, where we'd much rather have some "quality" discussions, and not just a bunch of random drivel.  That's all.  And I'm by no means suggesting this is something limited to just you there.  It's vastly widespread, which is why many of us here at JD don't enjoy hanging out much at RS anymore.  Just a preference...

Anyway, like most people mentioned in the other thread (which has had it's title changed numerous times), none of us think that you're a "bad" person.  We just think you post pad a bit, and weren't the best candidate for the moderator job (which was actually Rob, but that's a separate issue).  Besides, it's a little weird for someone to have a self-imposed banning from a website, only to come back several months later out of nowhere to become a mod.  Rather bizarre.

But anyway, I think you're taking all of this stuff way too personal, including the fits you've been throwing over your picture and real name.  Like I told Gregg last year when we dug up his mug, just go with it, don't make a fuss, and it'll all die down soon enough.  Well, he chose to do the exact opposite, and because of that, it's been a huge running topic and joke ever since.  Unfortunately, you've chosen to follow the same path.  The more you get all excited about this stuff, the more it gets discussed, and the dumber it all looks - on everyone's sides.  So I say just let it go, and hopefully after awhile it'll just die off, and you can enjoy your "hard-earned" new position over at 'Scum to it's fullest...

- Matt
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 03:03 AM
I'm also going to unlock this for a few more minutes, in case LJ wants to add anything else in following my post.  Not fair for me to toss my 2 cents in without giving Bertha an opportunity to reply...


EDIT:  Nevermind.  Looks like she's logged off.

B, if you'd like to add another reply in, LMK and I'll unlock it for you once more...
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 03:21 AM
One last thing I'd like to add, is that I don't think any of us were discussing this matter over here at JD "behind your back", Bertha.  We're just discussing it where we CAN discuss it, that's all.  This conversation wouldn't last more than a few posts over at RS.  Most 'Scummers know about our forum here, and are usually made aware of any "RS drama" going down over here, so it's not like we didn't think anyone would notice this topic.

Most of us were also very well aware that you still had an active account over here at JD, and I've fully expected that you may want to stop by to chime in on the matter, which was going to be perfectly fine with me/us.

And lastly, as you're probably aware, we go on a first name basis most of the time around here at JD, so don't take my using your real name as some kind of insult.  If you don't like your own name, I'm sorry.  Feel free to give us any other name you go by in "real life" then, and I'd be happy to use that instead.  Besides, it's not like you had any say in the matter with your name, right?  That's your parents doing, and I think most of us understand that...

- M
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 03:29 AM
Well since I can respond again, let me do that.

Hmm where to beging. Let me start with the Post Counts. When I was at collectstarwars and then rebelscum, I never cared about the Post Counts and actually got into it with GNT and others who did care. But then I said, to hell with it, you can't beat em, join em. But really what does it matter what I or others do, as long as I am not insulting or degrading another, it shouldn't matter. I mean seriously, JMac, what kind of freakin mensa conversations can you have on a Star Wars board??? Let's not take ourselves too seriously here folks. Like I've said a hundred times, we are all adults, talking about a toy line, mostly based on a movie from 1977. How serious can we take ourselves????

I won't discuss the scum, I'm not here as mod, but as a person who has been made fun of and mocked of in the past. Like I said, let me demonstrate how I handle things over there, give me a shot before you start to degrade without just cuase.

And as far as my "pic" is concerned. I thought by squelching it, It would prevent people from saying it was me, but I was wrong. If you guys think a girl that graduated in 2000 is me, so be it. I can't help it if you guys can't see how illogical that is. You're right, I am letting it die, if it's me, then so be it. But let's use our brains and see if it can really be me???

And while I do have an account here, I barely have time to come due to school and what not. So it isn't out of the question that most scummers don't know what is being said about them. I barely found out tonight!!!

And like I said, you all know my real name, but my main deal is how that guy got that pic. I've typed in my first name, and then added my last name. And the only way to get to that specific pic, is by typing both my first and last name. I think that is a real invasion of privacy, especially if former mods or others gave that info out without my permission!! I mean if he can get that info, what else can he get???

And just call me Lady Jaye, LJ. I mean it's what I like!!! Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 03:40 AM
OK, we've all said our final peace now, so I'll go ahead and lock this back up (and merge it together with the other RS thread as well, just for tidiness  ;))...

But then I said, to hell with it, you can't beat em, join em. But really what does it matter what I or others do, as long as I am not insulting or degrading another, it shouldn't matter. I mean seriously, JMac, what kind of freakin mensa conversations can you have on a Star Wars board???

Well, like we've said numerous times over here, we often pride ourselves and our conversation here at JD (as they similarly do at GH) with "quality" over "quantity", and that just can't be said for the vast majority of discussions at RS.  Sure, we're just talkin' toys, and various other topics, but we'd still prefer it to be a somewhat intelligent, articulate conversation.  Nothing wrong with that really.  Just a difference in styles between our sites.

Anyway, any other further thoughts on this topic between folks can happen via PM now, I suppose.

- Matt

P.S.  You do recall what you said in your very first post over here at JD, right LJ?   ;)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral...
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 03:46 AM
I think we all believe that as well, but sometimes we shouldn't get too full of ourselves. After all this is Star Wars, not oceanography or stellar astronomy!!!
Title: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 10, 2004, 09:12 PM
Since other 'scum thought threads are a bit off track and not that well titled, thought I would start a new string.

Anyone else getting tired of the ever-diminishing IQ and maturity level in Wuhers over at the 'scum?  I don't know why I keep walking in there these days, although I have a theory it is the same reason you want to stare at a car crash.

I mean, other threads are good, and I still get good tips from the customizing and diorama threads, but.. gosh all heck, Mr. Wizard..Wuhers is a different animal all together.

Your thoughts?  ???
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Bob Crane on December 10, 2004, 09:49 PM
My thoughts? It's difficultm to say, I'm sure boston terriers are pretty smart and all...
(http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0RwDvAkoW6TXxvRBIi5eKM81HXk0Lus6wR8NOp9CPm7oSH9crmvcS4ICvtWI04BGlV7wNVgfJCmyiBCbwl4C6IMidSfD7WTKNIxoa4Y9w0!k/dantedoggie.jpg?dc=4675501094682729052)

...but are they also clairvoyant?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Ook on December 10, 2004, 10:25 PM
It's a dungheap. Wouldn't be so bad if the dungposts were confined to Wuher's, but a couple kids insist on spamming all the figure sections with 2 or 3-word posts ever 30 seconds. It gets to be unreadable. I got myself banned for calling the lead retard, Yoda_Boi, a piece of ****.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 10:38 PM
More imporantly, how did my dog get involved in this?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 10:40 PM
It's a dungheap. Wouldn't be so bad if the dungposts were confined to Wuher's, but a couple kids insist on spamming all the figure sections with 2 or 3-word posts ever 30 seconds. It gets to be unreadable. I got myself banned for calling the lead retard, Yoda_Boi, a piece of ****.

They banned you too eh?

I'm apparently on thin ice now...  so I'm being nice.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 10, 2004, 10:44 PM
Seems to me that there are a number of "well, they hate me under that name so here's a new name" types in there too.  Anyone else pick up on those idiots?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Ook on December 10, 2004, 10:49 PM
Seems to me that there are a number of "well, they hate me under that name so here's a new name" types in there too.  Anyone else pick up on those idiots?
What...?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 10:49 PM
Seems to me that there are a number of "well, they hate me under that name so here's a new name" types in there too.  Anyone else pick up on those idiots?

When you mentioned Dante were you specifically talking about my dog or were you talking about everyone's favorite poet Dante Alighieri?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Ook on December 10, 2004, 10:51 PM
That's a good lookin' mutt. :)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 10:54 PM
Thanks!

I'm still a little confused as to whether or not this thread referenced him directly, or if someone else just happened to connect him to a mention of the poet - and why someone would be using the little guy's picture - beyond the obvious fact that he's adorable.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: The Collector on December 10, 2004, 11:07 PM
It's a dungheap. Wouldn't be so bad if the dungposts were confined to Wuher's, but a couple kids insist on spamming all the figure sections with 2 or 3-word posts ever 30 seconds. It gets to be unreadable. I got myself banned for calling the lead retard, Yoda_Boi, a piece of ****.

They banned you too eh?

I'm apparently on thin ice now...  so I'm being nice.

I thought you were a mod there. What did you do?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 11:09 PM
I was never a mod. 
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: The Collector on December 10, 2004, 11:12 PM
But what did you do to get on the **** list?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Diddly on December 10, 2004, 11:14 PM
We know what you did, Collector... ::)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 11:16 PM
Probably badmouth Rebelscum over here.

Also, there was a running joke for 20 minutes that I was Carpeteria's dad - in a nonsense thread I made to make fun of two other nonsense threads.

All in all - not very much.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Chris on December 10, 2004, 11:21 PM
But what did you do to get on the **** list?

No bad words.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 10, 2004, 11:27 PM
The string title was a veiled reference to the seven planes of Hell as detailed in the inferno..

Not saying the Wuhers reminds of that...
..or maybe it does..

but all in all..he looks like a nice doggy.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 11, 2004, 01:24 AM
Okay, so now the question is am I gonna get some royalties for use of my dog's image.   8)

Dante Alighieri did infact predict Wuher's -Canto 80 something.  It was somewhere in the 8th circle between the Evil Counselors and the Sowers of Dischord I think.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 11, 2004, 03:39 AM
I gotta dig, but I find a good thread now and again.  I try to be helpful in the customizing area for new people asking Q's too, but that becomes increasingly harder as more of the "kiddies" come in.

Why go?  Eh, good question if it's one you've posed to yourself...  There's better places.  *cough cough*
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 11, 2004, 11:37 AM
Yeah, some guy named JesseJames helped me with some questions regarding knee joints this past week.  He seems like a helpful, nice guy.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 11, 2004, 01:06 PM
Ah yes, the umpteenth "Wuher's is deteriorating" thread.  I've grown used to seeing these about once a month.  Personally, I don't think it's deteriorating.  It's just not getting any better.  It was for awhile, but now it's kind of settling back into the groove.

Someone bumped THIS (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=342458&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#342458)  thread the other day, and before it was locked.....I thought it was pretty funny. It basically complains about the same stuff going on today, but was floating around over a year ago. I can see that I was feeling pretty annoyed by the place and all the post padding.  These days, I just ignore that aspect of it (to the best of my abilities).

I've tried to just sit back and enjoy the ride. I still really like that site, it's still a great place to hang out. I can deal with the occasional speed bump (or a certain new moderator who'd love nothing more than to see me gone). In the end, those few bad things don't outweigh the good.

It's sort of like going downtown.  Sure, you have to put up with the occasional criminal or degenerate who might try to ruin your evening.....but for the most part, all the best stuff is still downtown.  ;D

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Bob Crane on December 11, 2004, 01:17 PM
Okay, so now the question is am I gonna get some royalties for use of my dog's image.   8)


Have you paid your dues Jack?

(http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0QwCz*6cURMVnFKk9dyMAJGeXZBC*d8Y2McSK4mfTeTzp7HyQvsFEicbNU4nOw5wLtKXiDVzVRgwBh4*a1iWJIV8*J*Rnuh*2sycsncL2sFQ/bobbuck.jpg?dc=4675501182114323643)

. . . Yes sir,
the check is in the mail.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 11, 2004, 06:02 PM
I'll let you know when it gets here.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 11, 2004, 06:12 PM

Also, there was a running joke for 20 minutes that I was Carpeteria's dad - in a nonsense thread I made to make fun of two other nonsense threads.


indeed; word to the wise (though it should be painfully obvious): don't start or contribute to any threads in which you attempt to accept parentage of another board member. it is likely you will be considered more trouble than you are worth. nasty letters all around. beware.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Diddly on December 12, 2004, 04:37 PM
Looks like someone bumped up a bunch of 2 year old threads that Virex started.

Hmm.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 12, 2004, 06:55 PM
The latest additions to the asylum..anewman and evilsand..are a parent's wet dream.  They are either highly stupid or members that have been banned. Either way, they only add to the downward spiral. :P
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Diddly on December 12, 2004, 06:57 PM
HOLY CRAP! You're right 506..... those two are something else.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on December 12, 2004, 07:05 PM
Yeah those two people are something else.  I like how everyone jumps on everyone else right now for either bumping up those old threads or jumping on new members who there think are old/banned members of those fourms. 
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 12, 2004, 09:05 PM
In memorium:


Your account has been banned or locked havoc in wuhers 


Race to the finish boys....race to the finish  :'(

Vator

BNT

Eparg

Rotav

anewman


Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: [DSS]Pedr0 on December 12, 2004, 11:56 PM
Now that is pretty lame....  ::)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: The Collector on December 13, 2004, 02:37 AM
Now that is pretty lame....  ::)


I agree. You're not really hurting the administration when you do that. You are annoying the posters and viewers.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: CorranHorn on December 13, 2004, 03:58 AM
Now that is pretty lame....  ::)


I agree. You're not really hurting the administration when you do that. You are annoying the posters and viewers.

thats quite true, but i dont think jedidefender needs to see this kind of stuff occuring here
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 13, 2004, 07:11 AM
Actually, it was a follow up to an expirement I have done there befour. The question again was how would the memebership act towards a newbie with obvious problems, much like the Bangs incident last year.

My hypothesis was that I would be flammed for 'grammer', be called an old memeber, and banned within the day. The expiriment went rather well, in my opinion. I got everything I wanted to know out of it, and it aleviated some boredom.

The Results?
It is conclusive to me that infact Wuhers is unexcepting, paranoid and largley populated and modded by the Extended Learning Time crowd.

My question for an RS moderator is this, had I been a new member, would you really have banned this new member for 'havoc in wuhers'. If so, what justification did you have? I don't think the TOS were violated by the 'new' kid, were they? If so, then wouldn't that just prove that you run a crooked administration?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jeff on December 13, 2004, 10:01 AM
So, were you ALL of those guys that were acting crazy (anewman, evilsith, MrSparkie, yodaboi) or were you just anewman and the rest were actually other people acting crazy?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 13, 2004, 10:12 AM
My hypothesis was that I would be flammed for 'grammer', be called an old memeber, and banned within the day. The expiriment went rather well, in my opinion. I got everything I wanted to know out of it, and it aleviated some boredom.

But you ARE an old member.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 13, 2004, 02:16 PM


I don't think harassing the staff over there is cool, even if you're doing it "for an experiment".  I know I personally had to ban a couple of your accounts at some point and it's a shame to see that all this time later you still think it's funny to start up fake accounts just to go aggravate the staff and members of a site you've been banned from.

It seems sort of petty and childish to me.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 13, 2004, 03:46 PM
I was just anewman, the other people I don't know about.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 13, 2004, 04:22 PM


I don't think harassing the staff over there is cool, even if you're doing it "for an experiment".  I know I personally had to ban a couple of your accounts at some point and it's a shame to see that all this time later you still think it's funny to start up fake accounts just to go aggravate the staff and members of a site you've been banned from.

It seems sort of petty and childish to me.



What he said.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 12:50 AM
i agree as well. i can't believe anyone has the kind of time to do something like that. i certainly wouldn't - i wouldn't want to get tossed off. i shudder to think what could be worse than watto's and wuher's.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 14, 2004, 03:47 PM
I really wouldn't say it was a big time consumer...it wasn't. Only about 20 minuets in all.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 04:28 PM
i agree as well. i can't believe anyone has the kind of time to do something like that. i certainly wouldn't - i wouldn't want to get tossed off. i shudder to think what could be worse than watto's and wuher's.

Agreed - I'm afraid to even think about it.  Lord knows it's probably nothing but trouble.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 14, 2004, 04:49 PM
Something worse than Watto's and Wuher's? No way.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 14, 2004, 05:22 PM
This is suddenly quite funny.   :P
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 14, 2004, 05:27 PM
Any idea on who RS member "Redhawk" is?  And why he seems like such a moron?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 06:02 PM
i assumed redhawk was just another brilliant RS user like windu or yodaboi. i don't get why everyone is all over the new people lately (except for anewman, for obvious reasons).
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 06:11 PM
I can't imagine what will happen when we get really close to E3 and there are 500 new highschool kids signing up - that place will implode.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 14, 2004, 06:35 PM
You mean something like this????

http://www.redlipstick.net/knotroom/implosion.html
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 07:32 PM
hmmm... perhaps...
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 09:11 PM
You mean something like this????

http://www.redlipstick.net/knotroom/implosion.html

Precisely.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 14, 2004, 09:28 PM
I can't imagine what will happen when we get really close to E3 and there are 500 new highschool kids signing up - that place will implode.

We'll just send a bunch of them over here!!!!!!!!  :P :o ;D
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 14, 2004, 09:37 PM
I'm going to clear up some apparant misconceptions where people totally misinterpreted what I said. (Surprise, surprise!)

* Not once did I blame this site for Redhawk's actions. NOT ONCE! I asked, which was an open invite for JD to clear their name, if Redhawk was another one of their known members, conducting some assinine "test" on the Rebelscum moderators.

Automatically, you people assumed I SAID it was you, when I didn't, again, I only asked for a straight forward response.

* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

Anyone wish to claim responsibility for that? Zack's avatar, before being deleted, was of KBZ's "Party Monster" avatar of Wilson Cruz, with GNT's face superimposed on it, and I know photoshopping Greg's face on images is an immature passtime here. Again, I am only asking. NOBODY is laying blame. There's just a few outstanding circumstances that make the accusations all the more suspect.

So, as I said before, nobody is blaming anyone. I merely asked, and you took it wrong. I appreciate the apology for Andrews actions, and I think one is in order to ME for misintepreting what I merely ASKED and not IMPLIED.

Complain about the state of Rebelscum's forums, revel in your "Cheers" atmosphere, but in the future, keep a tighter leash on your problem members, so they don't drag your name through the mud.


P.S. Matt, if you ever address me again, I'd appreciate it if you didn't do it in 2nd person. I was in the thread, and the way I was referred to, I felt, was quite condescending.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 09:44 PM
of KBZ's "Party Monster" avatar of Wilson Cruz, with GNT's face superimposed on it, and I know photoshopping Greg's face on images is an immature passtime here.

That picture doesn't contain one single solitary pixel of Greg(g)'s face.  Not a one.

I can't decide whether it's an insult, or a great compliment that you thought it did.

Man, message board drama cracks me up though...
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 14, 2004, 09:48 PM
Oh oh, here we go again.

Let's get it on!!!!
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 14, 2004, 09:56 PM

That picture doesn't contain one single solitary pixel of Greg(g)'s face.  Not a one.

No,  Rob. "Zack Attack" had an avatar for all of 5 minutes before taking it down after his post in Darth_Darth's "I'm Sorry" thread.
It was an altered version of your avatar.

I can also tell you it was painted all black around both sides of the hat, and Gregg's face was on it. It was hosted by a remote image hosting site, www.imgbucket.com.

Personally, all I want is for there not to be any reason to speculate, and I appreciate everyone here actually being opposed to Vator's experiments.

Vator, your "tests" only re-stated the obvious. By way of being an banned Rebelscum member, and supposed faithful JD supporter, you are more or less representing this site as a whole. Don't force the staff to clean up after you for something so trivial as the moderation on a board, especially on a Sunday night, when most people are getting ready for work the next day.

I'm not apologizing, as I haven't done anything wrong, but I am sorry that people mistook my questions for direct accusations. It's the story of my life, being misunderstood, so I'm used to it by now.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Chris on December 14, 2004, 10:16 PM
I'm annoyed by this thread. People who whine are annoying, and this thread has some whining. Because a member of my site posts something at another site, it does nothing in regards to this websites name. They are not endorsed by JediDefender so it is not an issue. Wuhers is a stupid mess, we all know that. Oh well. Don't like it- don't go there. We don't "test" or care to "test" the moderators at Scum, their actions speak for themselves, and it is not even like I or even "we" CARE. It is a different site and it doesn't affect what goes on here. They do plenty right and that is why they are still around. We do quite a bit right as well and people choose to come here. It all comes down to a personal preference. I don't mind if you point out something specific from Wuhers that is especially stupid or laughworthy, but to just whine on and on.... enough is enough guys...

I don't feel like locking this, you can finish out the "battle" and then let it go. I expect this thread to die down on its own after a while, don't make a moderator lock it.  :-*
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 14, 2004, 10:20 PM
Cine,

I in no way represent Jedidefender and do not wish to have my personal actions linked to the site. If they are viewed as such there is nothing I can do to help that. If so I would like to apologise to the site. It was never my intention to do so.


and to the rest of the Rebelscum memebers,

It would seem asthough my actions have lead to suspicion of others at this site in a small degree. While I do know of other people who have flammed RS who are memebers here, know this, it is not on the behalf of JD but on the behalf of the idividual.

To the rest,

Please except my sincerest apologies. It will not happen again, and I apologise for any inter-fourm animosity that may have been renewed as a result of my actions.



Edit: As Chris said. I did what I did on my own, and did not seek credit for it. While I can understand how my 'In memorium' could have been seen as credit seeking it was not. It was a joke and nothing more.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Scott on December 14, 2004, 10:24 PM
Don't worry about it Andrew
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 10:25 PM
i think you've maybe watched one too many detective movies, man. you also claimed that darth darth is virex, right?

you also say that the staff has to "clean up" after whatever these people are doing - why? why do they have to clean up anything? hitting the lock button is difficult? it looked like the threads that got "attacked" were pretty stupid in the first place and would have headed towards the lock eventually. are these people threatening anyone? harassing them? i don't get it.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 14, 2004, 10:26 PM
Quote
* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.


I still think it's irrelevant.  So what if Redhawk is a banned RS member that JD allows to be a member over here?  Should JD refuse ALL banned RS members?  Although I'm tempted to say yes, I realize that these days it's a lot easier to get banned from that site.....and someday I could find myself in that same boat for nothing more than a simple joke.

So does JD itself need to feel responsible because one of their several hundred members is posting with socks on over at RS? I don't think so.  If that person had a thread over here saying "Hey, watch me F with Rebelscum" that would be one thing.....but there is no such thread.  The stupidity this guy is creating is not "Endorsed' By JD as far as I can tell.


Here's where JD's responsiblity for this whole thing lies.  If "Redhawk" were posting that kind of garbage over here and the mods were leaving him alone, I could see JD's name getting soiled a bit.  But that's not happening here.

After all, this is supposed to be a more "mature" community. In many ways, it is.....although I attribute a lot of that to the size of this place.

If JD ever gets the membership RS has, it'll be intersting to see how this site will deal with the Durges, Yoda Bois and other post whoring clowns who spend all day typing senselesss replies to everything because they enjoy nothing more than seeing their name at the top of every topic.  

I wonder....would this site entertain people that like to post a sentence and a smiley face if a sudden massive influx of them came pouring in? Or would they be quickly excommunicated one by one? COULD they?

What about the folks like Redhawk who post silly threads simply to see what kind of a little **** storm they can start on the boards?  What should be done about them?

While I have more respect for the latter than the former.....they're both just the same stereotypical characters you meet on any message board. There's always going to be some 12 year old post whore, there's always going to be some person who thinks they're witty when they post threads mocking the board they're members of......and there are always going to be guys like me who complain about the other guys.

Luckily, this is a smaller community, so the problems are easier to spot....but over at RS, it's up to the members to point out clowns like Redhawk....so the mods can keep an eye on them in case they ever decide to become more of a problem than just posting an annoying topic or two.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 14, 2004, 10:34 PM

you also say that the staff has to "clean up" after whatever these people are doing - why?

I didn't say they had to? Boy, you guys are on a roll. JediMAC was literally forced to take the blame for Vator. That's what I was implying, not that my implications ever come across as they do to everyone else.

You know, whatever guys. Redhawk isn't with JD, and Vator made a bad decision.

It's just a little suspicious, given the recent flurry of activity that points right back here, and the anti-RS sentiment that gets it's own thread every week here.

Apology accepted.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 14, 2004, 10:36 PM
Can I flip the script (as the kids say) for a second?

If a Rebelscum (current or banned) member does or says something on this site that isn't appropriate....is Rebelscum somehow responsible for that person too?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 10:43 PM
It's just a little suspicious, given the recent flurry of activity that points right back here

Yeah - but it's not like this is some type of secret meeting ground where disgruntled RS members get together to wage war on Wuher's.  That would just be silly.  This is as public a forum as Rebelscum is. 

Trolls are trolls - odds are they're on their own.  If they're organized somehow, I'm impressed - but unless they're doing it through PM, it's got very little to do with Jedi Defender - aside from the fact that some people here probably share the sentiment. 
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 10:45 PM
Don't force the staff to clean up after you for something so trivial as the moderation on a board, especially on a Sunday night, when most people are getting ready for work the next day.

yeah, i don't know why i would think you said that about cleaning things up.

Quote
If they're organized somehow, I'm impressed.

i'd be impressed, too.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 14, 2004, 10:52 PM
Well given the fact that three of them appeared in a one week period, something has to be going on. But that is their own deal, nothing really affiliated with JD
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 14, 2004, 10:54 PM
Well the last 'organised' thing that I've seen happened over the summer. Whether something is going on now or not is unknown.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Stim on December 14, 2004, 11:18 PM
Remember when we all got along and collected Jango Fett memorabilia?  Man, those were the days.

Oh, wait.  We never all got along.  And only one of us ever really collected Jango Fett memorabilia.

Still.  Good times, eh?

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 14, 2004, 11:37 PM
Hey...I collect Jango Fett stuff (as I believe do the majority of collectors out there).

I just don't collect it EXCLUSIVELY.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 14, 2004, 11:43 PM

you also say that the staff has to "clean up" after whatever these people are doing - why?

Don't force the staff to clean up after you for something so trivial as the moderation on a board, especially on a Sunday night, when most people are getting ready for work the next day.

yeah, i don't know why i would think you said that about cleaning things up.


I did, but I didn't say they HAD to. You implied I did, making it a requirement. Actually, I said "forced", because Vator made it a non-obligational apology, see "necessarily issued on his behalf".

There's a big difference.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 11:47 PM
ok, nice work, mr. semantics. my point was in asking WHY anyone should have to "CLEAN UP" anything. i wasn't accusing you of anything directly, it was a general question in reference to your statement that "SOMETHING" had to be "CLEANED UP." i wondered why a cleaning was necessary. that's it.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: jokabofe on December 15, 2004, 12:16 AM
Complain about the state of Rebelscum's forums, revel in your "Cheers" atmosphere, but in the future, keep a tighter leash on your problem members, so they don't drag your name through the mud.

And which Rebelscum administrator/moderator are you?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: jjks on December 15, 2004, 12:55 AM
Crap like this really makes me miss Virex. He'd be having a field day with all this drama.  :-[
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2004, 01:09 AM
What did happen to the ol charmer Virex?????
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 01:20 AM
And which Rebelscum administrator/moderator are you?

That would be Cory/Jango Fettish/Junkyard Junkie/Cinemaddiction, etc.

So Cory, pray tell, who besides Andrew are you guys having an issue with?  We've already been accused of unleashing "Durge" on you, which is obviously ridiculous, since he's an RS member, and has been banned here each and every time he's signed up.

As for Virex, he left a while ago.  I think he died, or something.  So anyone accusing us us of that association is wrong as well.  But please, keep trying...  Anyone else?   ::)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 01:23 AM
* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

Cory, for the last time, Darth_Darth has nothing to do with JD, so shut the **** up about that bull****.  Seriously.  YOU ARE WRONG.  Now let it go.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: CorranHorn on December 15, 2004, 01:24 AM
it's been quite entertaining to read this ****** mess of a soap opera, and I was going to keep quiet on it, because really there wasn't anything particular that caused this to start unlike other scum-related threads here at JD. but I did want to point out something.....

Well given the fact that three of them appeared in a one week period, something has to be going on. But that is their own deal, nothing really affiliated with JD

hasn't that kind of stuff happened a lot on scum over the years? a couple of assclowns posting ridiculous ****, trying to get noticed or just making a nuisance of themselves? clearly what occured isn't an isolated incident and has happened often since scum's forums went up approx. 3 years ago, yet doesn't seem to occur at any of the other major message boards (with the exceptions liekly being SSG and TFN but then again only tards go there  :P) such as the original BHC at CSW, GH, JD, DSP, Jawa, etc. as much as one should ask why these people feel its necessary to waste their time doing such stupid ****, it should be considered what has rebelscum done or allowed to be done that lends itself to such stupid **** happening there.

some food for thought.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 01:29 AM
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P.S. Matt, if you ever address me again, I'd appreciate it if you didn't do it in 2nd person. I was in the thread, and the way I was referred to, I felt, was quite condescending.

WHAT?!  Since when are there rules about how we're to address people in threads?  So I should've just been saying "you" in that whole thread, so no one knew who the hell I was talking about?!  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...

And I was addressing you specifically, but others there generally, so forgive me if I typed your freaking name out there.  That's ridiculous.

Also, you keep throwing KBZ's name around.  Is Rob not also a member of RS?  Why does something to do with Rob equate to having something to do with JD?  You don't think there's people at RS who are unhappy with RS?  ****.  Get real, man.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 01:44 AM
One last thing, since I'm so fired up about this crap right now...

Vator, KBZ, Virex, and any other number of members who may be on your suspicious list are all also members of Galactic Hunter.  So how 'bout you go over there and blame them.

Just 'cause we have an RS bashing thread pop up here every month or two, does NOT mean we're all over at RS as trolling, spamming socks.  RS has more than enough of those on their own.

As I've already mentioned to several folks, JD is the only place where RS can be discussed.  You definitely can't discuss RS at RS, if you want to stick around there.  So people come here to discuss their "issues" with it.

And I'd bet you a million freaking dollars that's what cost Rob the moderator gig over there, unfortunately.  He would've been a good one, but 'cause he made mention of a few things here, he got the shaft.  That's my educated opinion anyway.  There's really no other potential reason for him not getting the gig.

We were all at RS at one point or another, so it's pretty much equivalent to keeping tabs on and talking about an ex-girlfriend or something.  You're always still interested in knowing what's going on with them.  So we talk about it here.  Big freakin' deal.  People need to vent sometimes...

Like I'm doing right now.   :-X

- M
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Ook on December 15, 2004, 01:56 AM
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Title: Are the RS forums down?
Post by: The Collector on December 15, 2004, 02:00 AM
Or is it just my browser?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 02:01 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Furious-George/ShutUp.jpg)

This one's for a couple of ya...

More soon when I can formulate something a little more clear and maybe even a substantial bit more blunt.
Title: Re: Are the RS forums down?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 02:01 AM
They're down...  It's a JD.com conspiracy from what I heard.  ::)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2004, 02:03 AM
You go ahead and vent JediMac, let it all out!!! ;D

Oh and that was funny Jesse James!!!
Title: Re: Are the RS forums down?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2004, 02:04 AM
A C.O.N. Spiracy!!! I tell youse!!!
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 02:12 AM
Since we've already got an RS thread going here, I'm merging the "Are their forums down?" thread in here.

Yes, they were down for a bit.  But now they're back up.

Scratch that.  They're still down.  They just got their main page back up, was all.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 15, 2004, 02:12 AM
ok, nice work, mr. semantics. my point was in asking WHY anyone should have to "CLEAN UP" anything. i wasn't accusing you of anything directly, it was a general question in reference to your statement that "SOMETHING" had to be "CLEANED UP." i wondered why a cleaning was necessary. that's it.

Ask Matt. He felt compelled to apologize. The smart thing would to have not "conducted" this little experiment to begin with. Did you, or anyone else for that matter, current Scummers included, really need a "test" to show that the moderators are lax at times?


And which Rebelscum administrator/moderator are you?
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I'm not any moderator, just someone who's looking out for this sites best interests, and feels as if that piece of advice is worth heeding, if you want to keep your squeaky clean image.

Is that so wrong? I don't have a hidden agenda.


So Cory, pray tell, who besides Andrew are you guys having an issue with?  We've already been accused of unleashing "Durge" on you, which is obviously ridiculous, since he's an RS member, and has been banned here each and every time he's signed up.


Just Andrew. I didn't pin any other potential saboteurs to this site. Why nobody is fessing up to "Zack Attack" from either here or Rebelscum is beyond me. Anonymity is a great cloak for cowards.

* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

Cory, for the last time, Darth_Darth has nothing to do with JD, so shut the **** up about that ********.  Seriously.  YOU ARE WRONG.  Now let it go.

Had I ever claimed that "Darth Darth" originated from Jedi Defender, we'd have something worth discussing. That said, "Zack Attack", bearing an avatar that A) was modified from KBZ's JD avatar, B) Had Gregg's face superimposed on it, and C) was conveniently hosted on a untraceable image server just all kind of leans towards someone from this site.  Maybe it was a Rebelscum user out to sabotage Jedi Defender! I don't know? Nobody has bothered going into it, much less acknowledging the situation aside from me.

Am I so wrong? Have you guys not superimposed Gregg's face on photos numerous times? Does' KBZ's avatar not feature Wilson Cruz from "Party Monster". I wish I would have saved the avatar, but, it dissappearing as soon as it was posted just adds to the mystique of "Zack Attack".


WHAT?!  Since when are there rules about how we're to address people in threads?  So I should've just been saying "you" in that whole thread, so no one knew who the hell I was talking about?!  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...

Also, you keep throwing KBZ's name around.  Is Rob not also a member of RS?  Why does something to do with Rob equate to having something to do with JD?  You don't think there's people at RS who are unhappy with RS?  ****.  Get real, man.

Use the quotes to address me directly. You came off as if you were fingering me out of some flippin' police line-up, as if *I* did something wrong, and *I* was the one who's suspect.

I use Rob's name, again, because it was his avatar that was modified and used by "Zack Attack", bearing GNT's likeness.

I could raise a stink about a post about a user in the Rebelscum DVD Thread that attack my movie tastes about 3 weeks ago by the name of NEXT_SEASON, which just so happens to be Rob's AOL E-Mail address, save a few X's. I'm not going to, because I know him better than that for one, and two, it's not plausible, just coincidental.

You people need to stop and listen to what I have to say. It's ludicrous that I have to go through every post calling me out to clarify what is incredibly apparent. It's nothing new. It's as if were back at RS. Nobody bothered to try and understand me then, either.

Just..STOP! Don't make stupid decisions.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 15, 2004, 02:24 AM
Man, there's enough drama now in this thread for an entire sorority meeting.


I;d like to fuel the conspiracy/argument/bitchfest/witch hunting fire by confessing that tonight I created 14 fake accounts on JD. Over the next several weeks, I plan to unleash a "Rebelscum" test of the moderation here, by posting such wonderful topics as:

Spa or Hot Tub: What do YOU call it?

Best ways to get rid of dandruff?

I found a nickel on the ground today!

Who was the Hottest "Facts of Life" girl?

I farted at my office holiday party. Suggestions for Monday?

What should I buy the "Will work for food" guy at the end of my freeway on-ramp for Christmas?

Cheerios are Good

Which Ninja Turtles movie did you like best?

And of course:

Visit my new website about Starr Wars figurs.


Of course, that would be an incredibly lame idea (on any site) so I'll probably refrain from doing any of what I just said.  ;D
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 02:34 AM
Sounds like you should just have a discussion with Rob then, Cory.  Can I say your name like that?  You've got me all confused now on how I'm supposed to address you.  Sir?  Does that work better?  Whatever the hell you want to be called, just LMK.  All this grammatical, quotes, second person bull**** is way over my head, man.

As for photoshopping Gregg's noggin anywhere, the JD staff here absolutely SUCKS at that stuff.  We can't photoshop **** to save our ass.  Seriously.  So that bull**** has nothing to do with us either.  Scott painted a mustache, very primatively, on GNT's face once - that much I remember.

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* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

To me, this very much suggests you're affiliating Darth Darth with us.  I don't even know who the **** Zack Attack is, but that's not a JD thing either, Mr. Detective.  Sir.  And I "can't go into something" that I know nothing about.  So if you're expecting some kind of admission from someone here that they're Darth, or Zack, or Kanos, or YodaBoi, or Killer, or Windu, or Redhawk, or any other number of stupid ***** over there, I highly doubt you're gonna get it.

As for someone attacking you in the DVD thread, well ****, something like that is an absolute no-brainer really.  EVERYONE attacks your movie tastes.  Openly.  RS members, JD members, etc.  If someone says some **** to you there about your movie tastes, that very well could be an RS member, so get over yourself, Sir.

Or are you now suggesting there's a JD/Cory conspiracy in addition to the supposed JD/RS one?!  ****.  Please.


- Sorority President out.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 02:50 AM
The only one who would've lead anything remotely close to that is sadly gone...  Like jjks said though, he'd probably be having the most fun in this thead right now.

The short of it is (and I'm keeping my comments much more brief than I'd originally planned on, for many of you), there's no conspiracy that has anything REMOTELY to do with JD.com as an entity.

If it's members from here, the site and its staff don't have a clue about it...  If they do, I say they need to just come here and be constructive than go there and jerk off RS's staff or generally piss you off Cory, but that's me...  They either A) Don't like you, or B) don't like Rebelscum, or C) don't like either of you...  I'd say that doesn't equate to JACK **** with Jedi Defender as far as responsibility goes though...  Our name shouldn't be uttered then.

There's no brilliant revelations coming from this thread, other than there's a LOT of people here who left (or were forced away) from Rebelscum...  Some want payback maybe?  I don't know, and honestly I don't care, but it's got nothing to do with this site since we'd not allow it or condone it.

My parting words are that if it's that big a deal, handle your business at your site (This is addressed to any Scum Mods who ARE here) and not out in OUR public forum.  And if it's a personal beef at another site, then take it up with their staff at their site...

We've got nothing to do with it, so drop it.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: jjks on December 15, 2004, 04:07 AM
I like how you can only be associated with one site, regardless of how many you may belong to and are active at. I guess it's kind of like racial profiling, only star wars board profiling. "This guy's a dick that said mean things about me, so he's gotta be from JD".

Where do I fit in Cory? I'm as old school as they come, does that mean I'm really a Scum guy visiting JD, or am I a JD guy that stops in at Scum to view the trainwreck and learn what movies to avoid. Or wait, I post at GH too, and used to be big at SSG, what the hell am I???

 I'm still confused with where to group you in at: first you were on the 'Scum, then there was some suspension, then you were putting out the Jargon here, then you left here, then you went back to 'Scum, then I think you left again, somewhere in there you sold all your ****, then you came back with a renewed love for cinema, then you left again because you were "misunderstood", then you dropped a bunch of lbs and came back again (but only in the DVD thread), now you're totally back and playing moderator.


I'm so confused....should we not question your commitment to 'Scum? Seems like you bail on them a whole lot  :'(
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 04:19 AM
Exactly Jamie, and that's exactly part of the point I was trying to make (though you said it better).  How are all these "suspicious members" becoming the sole, exclusive property of JD, when in actuality, they're members of ALL the different SW collecting boards.  I keep seeing Rob's name thrown around, since Cory's obsessed with some avatar he saw, or something.  Wasn't Rob just up for a mod job at RS?  Since he didn't get it, does that mean he's been banished from over there, so there's gotta be an unscrupulous JD connection with him now, of some sort?

What if Rob DID get the mod job over there last month?  Then how would these accusations be going?  Still directed at JD?  And I'm not laying any blame on Rob for anything of course, just using him as an example since he's a member at both sites, and apparently had some brief avatar similarity with some Zack dude.

Jamie, I think if you piss anyone off at RS, then you'd qualify as a JD insurgent.  Otherwise, you're just another regular disgruntled member over there, I guess...
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: CorranHorn on December 15, 2004, 04:38 AM
the thing I don't get Matt, which I mentioned in my last post, but probably didn't get notice, is how can anyone believe this kind of stuff is all new to scum? this kind of stuff has been happening for a long long time, yet because some JD members happen to overtly exclaim their distaste for the scum, it must be some damn conspiracy of epic proportions.

it would behoove the people at scum to look into ways to improve their forums, especially coming into the time of Episode 3 when they will surely be getting an influx of new members (good and bad), so the problems they do have disappear and that may lead to less occurrences of the situation(s) that occurred in the last couple of days. if they did that instead of worrying about what is being said at JD, they would surely be better off. then again there's always some idiot out there just waiting to waste away time on spamming and causing ****.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 04:42 AM
Where do I fit?  I go to Scum still to stay active in threads that aren't cluttered with severe internet retardation...  They're few and far between, but I try seeking them out.

:)  

I know, I know...  I work here...  I gotta be a JD Terrorist.

Nonetheless though, I think the point's been made, as solid as my last bowel movement, that there's just a LOT of folks who've been PO'd at Scum for one reason or another...  Many of them wind up here, and I'd like to point out that they behave here too mostly (so as not to tarnish them like they're uncontrollable little kids like Lady Jaye seemed to imply with her "send them here" remark)...  This isn't the castaways or something.  Vator's a good, active participant here...

Was he at Scum?  They felt not, but he is here...  He just hates it over there I guess.  They gotta go somewhere though, and that doesn't mean that this site's supporting an "assault" on Scum...  It's a place they can vent if they want since it's likely their venting that got them banned there.  

If they wanna do stuff to Scum, as I said, that's Scum's problem to deal with at THEIR site, not here...  No conspiracy, no great investigation.  

This thread, when I got to read it after being out this evening, truly is one of the dumbest things I've read in ages...  What it's degenerated into is a level of nerdiness unsurpassed in the history of dorkdome.

Be proud folks.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 04:47 AM
...if they did that instead of worrying about what is being said at JD, they would surely be better off.

Hell, if they just read the stuff that was being said about them here at JD, they'd probably be able to fix the problems that are happening over there.  We give them all kinds of tips on it all the time.  It's instand feedback, but they tend to ignore us as much as Hasbro does!   ::)

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then again there's always some idiot out there just waiting to waste away time on spamming and causing ****.

Don't call Cory an idiot, Jason.  He's just highly inquisitive, that's all.   :P

As for your original point there, yeah, I agree with that as well.  Just fealt that was even more obvious than what Jamie was getting at.  Odd that they don't seem to notice it though, until Andrew announces he just ran over there to goof around a bit with their mods...  There's been all kinds of goofs jumping on their boards this year, and in years past.  Nothing new in the slightest...   :-\
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 04:47 AM
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how can anyone believe this kind of stuff is all new to scum? this kind of stuff has been happening for a long long time, yet because some JD members happen to overtly exclaim their distaste for the scum, it must be some damn conspiracy of epic proportions.

Exactly...

And it's not like there aren't means to deal with it.  But this isn't the harbor with which these ideas are launched.  Like I said, Vator's a good member here, so that's all that is to be said.

If he's got a beef, he's got a beef...  Like it or hate it, it has nothing to do with here.  And I'm sure he's one of only many who feel they were treated like crap at Scum while there's tons of "problems" there wandering around, posting freely every day...

To me, I go there and ignore them...  I've made a crack now and then, but nothing anyone even reacts to, and nothing insulting.  Otherwise I go watch/participate in what I want, just as I do over here at JD.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Xander on December 15, 2004, 08:55 AM
This thread...  a level of nerdiness unsurpassed in the history of dorkdome.

Be proud folks.

I know, and I can't stop reading!

I will say that I've been around long enough to know that none of this is new.  There's always been a rash of spam over there, and usually it's been a lot worse than the most recent case.  Crazy threads popping up for no reason.  Only it used to seem like people had more of a sense of humor about it.  They could laugh and roll their eyes at some, and then ignore them. Some were locked. Ignore the trolls and they go away.  There was a less fierce outcry and exaggerated consternation and more of a realization that trolls will be trolls.

The way all this is handled is what separates the two sites.  I'm glad here everyone can actually talk, and provide much entertainment.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2004, 10:14 AM
3 mouse clicks and anyone who wants to can save my avatar.

Beyond that, in some thread around here is the entire image, which I repost here because it is a masterpiece:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)

In any event.  It had nothing to do with me beyond my original photoshop job - and that's the absolute frickin' end of it.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 15, 2004, 12:14 PM

In any event.  It had nothing to do with me beyond my original photoshop job - and that's the absolute frickin' end of it.

Your involvement isn't in question, Rob. It never was, if anything, you were victimized. Which reminds me, the name of the image used was "greggg.jpg", with three G's. Anyone here spell his name, in light, like so?

As for photoshopping Gregg's noggin anywhere, the JD staff here absolutely SUCKS at that stuff.  We can't photoshop **** to save our ass.  Seriously.  So that ******** has nothing to do with us either.

I never claimed it was a staff member. However, smileyfaceguy, the same smileyfaceguy who openly admitted that he was going to start a "Philip Wise is Dead" thread to see how it would "go over" did infact make this, no?

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/268293/teamgnt.jpg)

So, not only did Vator "test" us, you've got Smileyfaceguy who was/is a problem member here too, who was either banned or deleted himself, doing the same thing, looking to get a rise out of Rebelscum.

I have yet to blame Jedi Defender for these ridiculous "tests", it's that you're knowingly harbouring members that are obviously troubled, and are making you look bad. You keeping them registered here is up to you.

I guess it's just absolute sheer coincidence that Smiley came right out with his intentions to start what was obviously a problematic thread, knowing the consequences, Vator followed suit, a user pops up to clear the name of a poster who was obviously spamming the boards, bearing a modified avatar from this site, while we're dealing with Redhawk and Durge flip-flopping.

See where it gets frustrating?

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* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

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I don't even know who the **** Zack Attack is, but that's not a JD thing either, Mr. Detective.  Sir.  And I "can't go into something" that I know nothing about.

If you don't know anything about it, then you have no basis on which to claim it being the work of a JD member or not? Do you? Signs, being the avatar, which nobody but myself saw, being the last person to post in that thread before it's closure,point right back here. Weither it did originate from here or not is pure speculation, with which I have the upper hand being an eyewitness.

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As for someone attacking you in the DVD thread, well ****, something like that is an absolute no-brainer really.  EVERYONE attacks your movie tastes.  Openly.  RS members, JD members, etc.  If someone says some **** to you there about your movie tastes, that very well could be an RS member, so get over yourself, Sir.

..and those people are a bunch of goddamn immature nits that can't grasp the concept of personal subjectivity, much less respect. It has nothing to do with "conceit", as there's nothing to "get over". You've been surprisingly unprofessional, not to mention increasingly immature in this subject.

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Or are you now suggesting there's a JD/Cory conspiracy in addition to the supposed JD/RS one?!  ****.  Please.

Nope. Are you?

I like how you can only be associated with one site, regardless of how many you may belong to and are active at. I guess it's kind of like racial profiling, only star wars board profiling. "This guy's a dick that said mean things about me, so he's gotta be from JD".

Are you ignoring the circumstances under which I made the ASSUMPTION, not association.

* Smileyfaceguy's open intention to smear RS.

* Vator's open intention to "test" RS.

* Zack Attack's GNT/KBZ altered avatar.

* The "angry" ex-communicated RS members coming over here, and how they gave even YOU people trouble?

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Where do I fit in Cory? I'm as old school as they come, does that mean I'm really a Scum guy visiting JD, or am I a JD guy that stops in at Scum to view the trainwreck and learn what movies to avoid. Or wait, I post at GH too, and used to be big at SSG, what the hell am I???

Goes right back to the avatar, and the fact that users here's intentions were made public and you let it happen. If you say there's no grudge, why not let Philip know it was going to happen? If you're going to whine and bitch about the state of the RS forums, why allow your members to openly "test" RS? The irony of the whole situation is so sweet, given all the ass-sore ex-scummers that gripe about the forums all the time.

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I'm still confused with where to group you in at: first you were on the 'Scum, then there was some suspension, then you were putting out the Jargon here, then you left here, then you went back to 'Scum, then I think you left again, somewhere in there you sold all your ****, then you came back with a renewed love for cinema, then you left again because you were "misunderstood", then you dropped a bunch of lbs and came back again (but only in the DVD thread), now you're totally back and playing moderator.

I joined Rebelscum in 11/01, I'm a Rebelscum member through and through. I joined JediDefender under the pretense I'd be a contributing writer. I did, I was, I quit collecting, I wrote a little bit after collecting, I got disrespected by the staff even as a staff member, and users, and left. I've been back here trying to enjoy myself a few times, but the problem areas still remained until now, not that I'd consider posting here after this fracas.

You don't have to quote misunderstood either because it is what it is, and this entire thread is a prime example of people misinterpreting what I say, twisting the words that subsequently get put back in my mouth, all for the sake of hating me, and for what reason?

It's the same for the movies/DVD threads. "Cory didn't like it, so I know I'll love it." It's bull****. You people, and you know who the **** you are never even bother looking for our similarities, because it's too much fun being different, giving you a whole 'nother reason to dislike me. More things to hold over my head when you feel the need to stroke your ego. Superior movie tastes? Please. If we do share something in common, it's like the apocalypse to you? It's a SURPRISE because you NEVER bothered venturing into similarities. Why you actively seek out reasons to dislike me is on you. I've always been open with my feelings, opinions, likes, and dislikes. It won't ever stop.

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I'm so confused....should we not question your commitment to 'Scum? Seems like you bail on them a whole lot  :'(

I've never asked for my username to be deleted from Rebelscum. I took time off for personal reasons, granted.

You guys keep asking what the connection is, read what I have been saying and then tell me if I'm not right in my speculation? Again, I have yet to lay blame. Only assume, given some overwhelming cicrumstances.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 12:51 PM
Cory, here's an idea:  Shut the **** up.

You're making a fool of yourself (as am I at this point, for letting your psychobabble annoy me so much), and 3/4ths of the **** you're saying makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.  Just go watch some more crime dramas from your DVD collection, and stop trying to re-enact them here in the forums.

Damn.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 15, 2004, 12:56 PM
Joshee... sounds like a lot of time and effort.. here...I will save you some trouble by posting my replies here:::

Spa or Hot Tub: What do YOU call it?
         HOT TUB

Best ways to get rid of dandruff?
         BACK WHEN I HAD IT, I USED TEGRIN..HAS NEVER RETURNED.

I found a nickel on the ground today!
         CONGRATS. WAS IT FACE UP?

Who was the Hottest "Facts of Life" girl?
         TWO POSSIBILITIES - EITHER OLDER TOOTIE OR THIN BLAIR.

I farted at my office holiday party. Suggestions for Monday?
         TAKE YOUR DOG TO THE OFFICE ON MONDAY AND BLAME IT ON HIM.

What should I buy the "Will work for food" guy at the end of my freeway on-ramp for Christmas?
         WARM GLOVES AND A NEW COAT.

Cheerios are Good
         CLICHE FG REFERENCE ADDED HERE : "PETER, THOSE ARE CHEERIOS."

Which Ninja Turtles movie did you like best?
         MICHAELANGELO, OF COURSE..DUH.

And of course:

Visit my new website about Starr Wars figurs.
         NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE CHEAP PRICES ON EARLY RUN CANTINA FIGURES.


You're welcome.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 15, 2004, 01:04 PM
I'm annoyed by this thread. People who whine are annoying, and this thread has some whining. Because a member of my site posts something at another site, it does nothing in regards to this websites name. They are not endorsed by JediDefender so it is not an issue. Wuhers is a stupid mess, we all know that. Oh well. Don't like it- don't go there. We don't "test" or care to "test" the moderators at Scum, their actions speak for themselves, and it is not even like I or even "we" CARE. It is a different site and it doesn't affect what goes on here. They do plenty right and that is why they are still around. We do quite a bit right as well and people choose to come here. It all comes down to a personal preference. I don't mind if you point out something specific from Wuhers that is especially stupid or laughworthy, but to just whine on and on.... enough is enough guys...

I don't feel like locking this, you can finish out the "battle" and then let it go. I expect this thread to die down on its own after a while, don't make a moderator lock it.  :-*

I concur, enough is enough!  So it will be done! 

If anyone has anything to say, I suggest taking it to an email or a PM. I'm all ears!

On that note, this thread is locked! 
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2004, 01:18 PM
Stupid...

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Cory:
Not once did I blame this site for Redhawk's actions. NOT ONCE! I asked, which was an open invite for JD to clear their name, if Redhawk was another one of their known members, conducting some assinine "test" on the Rebelscum moderators.

Why should JediDefender have to clear its name to you? If you weren't blaming the site for someone's actions, or implying such, then why was it necesarry for you to call the site out in the first place?

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Cory:
Automatically, you people assumed I SAID it was you, when I didn't, again, I only asked for a straight forward response.

Since leaving JD, you've been nothing but bitter towards this site and everyone in it (the staff and the members). Several times you've said things over at RS about JD, that were brough to my attention, that really put me off. You and I never butted heads about anything, and yet still, you hate 'us people' as a whole for some reason.

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So, as I said before, nobody is blaming anyone. I merely asked, and you took it wrong.

Since you've got nothing but bitter things to say about 'us people', why don't you just keep your mouth shut about JD, instead?

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Complain about the state of Rebelscum's forums, revel in your "Cheers" atmosphere, but in the future, keep a tighter leash on your problem members, so they don't drag your name through the mud.

Andrew (Vator) has never been a 'problem member' at JediDefender. He made a mistake, did something pretty stupid, and in doing so made himself look bad - but at least he's not so stubborn like so many people in this community (cough) where he cannot see where he was wrong. As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is in the clear now, he's apoligized, and I know he won't do that again.

Even if Andrew was a problem member, or anyone else was over here, how exactly do we 'keep a leash' on our problem members, who are also members at other forums, participating in other forums, anyway? Maybe Philip could un-ban me and give me a moderator position just so I can moderate 'my people' for you?

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Josh:
Best ways to get rid of dandruff?

I've had a rough time with dandruff lately, but it seems to have slacked off a little thankfully - so far all of the dandruff shampoo's seem to just worsen it. My advice is don't wear any dark shirts for a while.

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Idiot:
As for photoshopping Gregg's noggin anywhere, the JD staff here absolutely SUCKS at that stuff.  We can't photoshop **** to save our ass.  Seriously.

Thanks! I'm glad I haven't mailed off my Secret Santa yet.  :P

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Cory:
I'm not any moderator, just someone who's looking out for this sites best interests, and feels as if that piece of advice is worth heeding, if you want to keep your squeaky clean image.

Is that so wrong? I don't have a hidden agenda.

Somehow I doubt that you're looking out for JD's best interest.

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Cory:
So, not only did Vator "test" us, you've got Smileyfaceguy who was/is a problem member here too, who was either banned or deleted himself, doing the same thing, looking to get a rise out of Rebelscum.

Again... SFG is far from a problem member at JD - that is, unless you don't have a sense of humor. Oh.

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Cory:
I've been back here trying to enjoy myself a few times, but the problem areas still remained until now, not that I'd consider posting here after this fracas.

You've never been good at staying away, Cory - and you while you may not come back here this time, I'm sure you won't keep our names out of your mouth over at RS, will you?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2004, 01:21 PM
Didn't see that this was locked! Oops.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 15, 2004, 01:33 PM
(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/tap.gif)   No soup for you!   (http://www.cheesebuerger.net/images/smilie/frech/a015.gif)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 02:43 PM
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Idiot:
As for photoshopping Gregg's noggin anywhere, the JD staff here absolutely SUCKS at that stuff.  We can't photoshop **** to save our ass.  Seriously.

Thanks! I'm glad I haven't mailed off my Secret Santa yet.  :P

Sorry Brad!  You're the JD art and graphics guy, so you don't count!  I was speaking about the rest of our photoshop challenged staff here...   ;)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2004, 02:49 PM
Oh, you mean 'you people', nevermind.
Title: Smileyfaceguy's Exoneration
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 15, 2004, 05:09 PM
This is just a note to serve as Smileyfaceguy's exoneration pertaining to the supposed pre-meditated gag post about Philip's death at Rebelscum. I mistakenly claimed that he had pre-meditated such a post, as I had some crossed some information I gathered.

I apologize for wrongfully accusing SFG of any wrongdoing.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 05:20 PM
I'm merging your post in with the rest of this crap, Cory.  I was going to comment on the inaccuracies of your sfg insinuations earlier, but I decided your wild accusations weren't worth dealing with refuting anymore.

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I apologize for wrongfully accusing SFG of any wrongdoing.

Then you should apologize to 99% of the JD community for essentially doing the same thing to them...

- M
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2004, 05:22 PM
Even if he did do it, I don't think anyone cares.

Not even a little bit.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 08:55 PM
Wow...

OK, even though this is locked, I'm adding some things to it since I just got to read what started this at Scum.

The short of it is that everything you said at Scum was baseless Cory, and I frankly do think you owe JD.com overall (and its members) an apology for insinuating what you did.  Matt apologized for Vator only out of kindness, not because he ever had to.

The whole thing's silly, and this topic is dead...  Well, dead after I'm done anyway. :)

Cory, you're not gonna have any friends here if you keep it up...  Scum's problems, even if they're GOOD members here (and Vator, KBZ, and anyone else you implicated openly) are their problems...  So DBB and Lady Jaye simply have their work cut out.

We get our problems too, and we're left to deal with them and not establishing asinine "theories" about other sites.

I hope nothing this stupid shows up here again, or at Rebelscum, because this really was one of the dumbest things I've read in a LONG time.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Killer185 on January 4, 2005, 12:49 AM
There really are no good candidates for moderator at rebel scum. Zod would probably be the best choice, but I cannot think of anyone else who would be a good moderator. Some of the people asking for the job are pathetic. Killer185 ::), YodaBoi ::), General Windu ::). God help you all.
Thats actually pretty funny because I was the one to suggest there be new mods instated.  And no I was not asking to be one by any means.... ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on January 4, 2005, 12:53 AM
You're just a little over 4 months late with your response there, Killer.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Killer185 on January 4, 2005, 01:01 AM
Indeed... did not come on here till recently just to see what fun this site is! Much more fun than scum at times always good for a good laugh! ;D Then I figured why not uncover what **** you guys have been saying on me! Search came up with that as the only thing really.  :P Meh.  :-*

But I must say the funniest thing yet is the drama between these sites!  Really guys its just online fourms!  ;D :P But then again its always good for a great laugh! (Got to love the GNT threads here! ;D)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Mikey D on January 4, 2005, 07:43 AM
Then I figured why not uncover what **** you guys have been saying on me!

Psss - we're allowed to say **** here
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 4, 2005, 08:44 AM
RS's currently getting a butt pounding by a spammer...  Lots of great free items though!!!  :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 4, 2005, 10:50 AM
Indeed... did not come on here till recently just to see what fun this site is! Much more fun than scum at times always good for a good laugh! ;D Then I figured why not uncover what **** you guys have been saying on me! Search came up with that as the only thing really.  :P Meh.  :-*

But I must say the funniest thing yet is the drama between these sites!  Really guys its just online fourms!  ;D :P But then again its always good for a great laugh! (Got to love the GNT threads here! ;D)

You're an *******. I don't like ********. Stop.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on January 4, 2005, 03:40 PM
Indeed... did not come on here till recently just to see what fun this site is! Much more fun than scum at times always good for a good laugh! ;D Then I figured why not uncover what **** you guys have been saying on me! Search came up with that as the only thing really.  :P Meh.  :-*

But I must say the funniest thing yet is the drama between these sites!  Really guys its just online fourms!  ;D :P But then again its always good for a great laugh! (Got to love the GNT threads here! ;D)

Well aren't we a European Cigarette?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Killer185 on January 4, 2005, 04:30 PM
Well aren't we the having a ******* grand time?! Quite clever I must say Vator.    :P 

Must say I love this site even more and yes I know Mikey D we are allowed to say **** here alllll the more fun indeed! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on January 4, 2005, 05:42 PM
Let's just lock this now. It'll eventually be locked anyway when all the Scum retards pop over and flame us. ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 4, 2005, 05:59 PM
Well aren't we the having a ******* grand time?! Quite clever I must say Vator.    :P 

Must say I love this site even more and yes I know Mikey D we are allowed to say **** here alllll the more fun indeed! ;D ;)

N00bs can't say the "f word". Leave the arrogance to me. :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Ben on January 5, 2005, 03:52 AM
Killer
Say
****.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2005, 04:15 AM
Like putting cheese on the trap...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on January 5, 2005, 06:32 PM
If we're making fun of RS, let me show you this post in the Kenney Baker arrested thread:

"HEY AM I missing something here, because Kenny Baker (the guy who played R2D2) is a midget, and every body knows that midgets cant drive cars. Therefour, this story is a liar."

 ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Ben on January 5, 2005, 06:42 PM
Is there a bigger gathering of less-informed ******** on the internet than RS?

If there is, I don't wanna know about it. :D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: C on January 5, 2005, 09:24 PM
If we're making fun of RS, let me show you this post in the Kenney Baker arrested thread:

"HEY AM I missing something here, because Kenny Baker (the guy who played R2D2) is a midget, and every body knows that midgets cant drive cars. Therefour, this story is a liar."

 ::)

yeah, darth darth is a gem. wasn't someone saying awhile back that he was virex?  ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2005, 10:56 PM
After that comment, it could either be comedic genius from Virex or genuine stupidity from someone more likely to be DD, but that's my take. :)

As far as a bigger place of the ill-informed, I can think of a COUPLE forums that are packed with ignorance beyond Scum...  Yes, I said it.

The Massassi Temple (a Jedi Knight Series game editing site) is pretty damned ignorant as a general description of the members there.  I mean, it really is sad to read through at times.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on January 6, 2005, 12:02 AM
AllSith.com was run by Bangs. But their members kicked him out, and they're even worse than him...

GameFAQS has the dumbest people online. Ever.

So there are worse places than RS.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2005, 12:05 AM
Wait...

Bangs made Allsith.com, and his MEMBERS there kicked him out?

Chris you better watch your back man.  :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 6, 2005, 12:24 AM
I would be honored if you kicked me out.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on January 6, 2005, 12:30 AM
AllSith.com was run by Bangs. But their members kicked him out

Oh, that is just classic. It doesn't get any better than that.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 6, 2005, 12:33 AM
BTW, how do you get kicked out of your own site?

Or dare I ask?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2005, 12:33 AM
I wonder if Bangs realized he is the one who didn't have to leave.   :D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on January 6, 2005, 12:34 AM
I wonder if Bangs realized he is the one who didn't have to leave.   :D

Huh?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: CorranHorn on January 6, 2005, 12:53 AM
AllSith.com was run by Bangs. But their members kicked him out

Oh, that is just classic. It doesn't get any better than that.

ohh yeah that is just priceless! bangs was the epitome of message board morons and he couldn't even stay at his own board. HAH!
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on January 6, 2005, 07:07 AM
Bangs dame Kris Van De Sande the administrator from the begining...and then there was some kind of contest for something, Customs I think, where the prize was a Vader Bust. Bangs, being the genius that he is gave it to one of his friends, rather than the winner. He got thrown out/left and has not returned to the SW Collecting Community since.

Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 6, 2005, 01:04 PM
Bangs dame Kris Van De Sande the administrator from the begining...

How many sites does Kris work with? I know there's AllSith, BeJedi, and wasn't he also some sort of moderator janitor for Rebelscum once?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2005, 06:15 PM
He mods customs there.  As a matter of fact he PM'd me about something I was selling, showing interest, and never got back to me...  I hate when people do **** like that.

 >:(
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on January 6, 2005, 09:53 PM
As a matter of fact he PM'd me about something I was selling, showing interest, and never got back to me...  I hate when people do **** like that.

 >:(

 :-[

Sorry Jesse
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Killer185 on January 8, 2005, 12:35 AM
I do not represent nor "defend" rebelscum... I personally could care less.  For bloody crying out loud guys it just forums! This whole rival forum is just really silly!  ::)

No I am not a scum member trying to flame bloody JD members, just because you were kicked from Rebelscum or do not like scum does not mean everyone who registers from there is out to get you.

Oh and by the way... **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****! There I said it love, sorry "n00bs" can say that.   :-* :P 8) ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Redhawk on January 8, 2005, 01:49 AM
that was a funny post killer, im glad your here to! I like it here just as much as i like it at rebelscum, but the moderators here are funnier than bobsbigboy and lady jaye.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 8, 2005, 04:15 AM
As a matter of fact he PM'd me about something I was selling, showing interest, and never got back to me...  I hate when people do **** like that.

 >:(

 :-[

Sorry Jesse

For what Dave?   ???  You didn't do something did you?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 8, 2005, 11:11 AM
I do not represent nor "defend" rebelscum... I personally could care less.  For bloody crying out loud guys it just forums! This whole rival forum is just really silly!  ::)

No I am not a scum member trying to flame bloody JD members, just because you were kicked from Rebelscum or do not like scum does not mean everyone who registers from there is out to get you.

Oh and by the way... **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****! There I said it love, sorry "n00bs" can say that.   :-* :P 8) ;)

Next time you post something stupid, I'm locking your account. Please stop.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on January 8, 2005, 11:26 AM
As a matter of fact he PM'd me about something I was selling, showing interest, and never got back to me...  I hate when people do **** like that.

 >:(

 :-[

Sorry Jesse

For what Dave?   ???  You didn't do something did you?

Yeah, I was asking you about those 12" figures you had for sale and then kinda forgot about it   :-\
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 8, 2005, 06:32 PM
I knew where we stood Dave, no worries. :)
Title: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2005, 10:35 PM
I know site politics are pretty moronic and the wars between sites can be beyond stupid.  But, being I'm sort of out the game now, I think I can say this story over at Rebelscum is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read in the 10 years of SW Collecting Site history

http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=89831

Places like GH and Sandtroopers have had these pics up for 2-3 weeks now.  I see no benefit in asking for this and it makes your site look like a bunch of whiney kids who can't get the latest goods.  Wow ::)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2005, 10:59 PM
I saw that earlyer today, and I thought "Yeah, cause I'm gonna be in the store, finding toys that some people would give an arm for, and think "Gee, I bet Rebelscum could sure use these."

So sad.

Kevin
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Diddly on February 24, 2005, 11:08 PM
Here's a novel idea - WAIT FOR APRIL 2ND!

Wait, isn't Phil registering for wedding gifts with Greg(g) that day?

Words cannot describe how stupid this is. ::)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 24, 2005, 11:09 PM
Not to get off on another RS/Wise-bashing tangent, as he's never done anything to me personally, but RS has always come across as the "company shill" on the majority of stuff Hasbro does.  I can't remember the last time that they haven't bent over backwards to say how great Hasbro is and how every single product is "wonderful" or "long awaited" and how Hasbro is "really listening to the collectors."

There were two really telling occurrences recently though that finally drove the nail into RS.com's coffin as far as I was concerned:

1-A few weeks ago, there was an article on some website (I'm sure someone here can point it out) that talked about the relationship between LFL and the SW fansite community, and how other franchises (most notably Peter Jackson's LOTR camp) had embraced fan sites while LFL seemed to keep them at arm's length.  T'Bone from starwarz.com was great as always, and was eloquent in his commentary on the relationship (or lack thereof) between LFL and fansites.  Then they bring in our buddy Philip, who said (and I'm paraphrasing):

"I guess we picked the wrong franchise to back (referring to SW over LOTR, I guess).  TheOneRing.net took their design and aesthetic from TFN."

Wise also made allusions to being "important" and how he should be treated as such and not dismissed by LFL.  Basically, his comments came across as "I should be treated as a god, even though I am basing my fandom on how important I am perceived rather than actual actions, and I'm jealous of the other sites that do things a lot better than I do."  At least that's how I read them.

2-Notice how RS.com hasn't really mentioned the Clone Trooper 4 packs from EE since they were first announced?  I wonder if that has to do with the fact that another site was partially behind getting the set made and certain site owners were jealous that they didn't have a hand in this?  And it's like that with everything: RS swore up and down that they would not post leaked photos from ROTS toys and whatnot, but when JD.com, GH.com, Sandtroopers, TheJawa, Yakface, etc started showing them and leaving RS in the dust, what do they do?  They crank them out faster than you can say "I'm only in it for the money!"

I'm not a big fan of people who think that because they run a website (and don't even have a hand in the updating of said site unless they need to get their personal point across), they are somehow "more important" or a "bigger fan" than other people.  We're all fans (or we are all supposedly fans), and we should do things to help each other out; not use their sites to shill for companies so they can make a buck off the fans (as in PW's autograph group he started up a few years ago).  His little "Backed the wrong franchise" comment just reinforces the fact that he is not a true SW fan (there I go judging again) and is, truly, only in it for the money and his own inflated ego.

Mods, feel free to delete this post if it's too inflammatory.  The last thing I want is to play a part in starting a war on the internet.  :-\
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Scott on February 25, 2005, 01:19 PM
Do What I Say, Not What I Do (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=967784&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=9&Limit=25&Main=966527&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post967784)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Famine on February 25, 2005, 01:42 PM
What do they mean "If you get one for traid bait, it's considered scalping." No, I get one for traid bait to help myself and others out.

Good lord.

Is Philip gonna be at the Convention? I'd honestly like to discuss his logic behind that.

Kevin
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 25, 2005, 02:44 PM
I take that comment on scalping as very funny, considering the man is charging other "fans" exhorbitant prices to have one of the actors write their names on something, and then only if it's something that he authorizes them to sign.   ::)

Here I was under the impression that the Celebration(s) were all about the fan community and having fun, but apparently, it's still all about the almighty dollar to Mr. Wise.  Famine, if you do see him, be sure to ask him about this, as (at least personally) I find charging money for people's autographs to be a form of scalping in its own way.  Certainly more of a "scalping" action than buying two of something for trade bait.
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: JediMAC on February 25, 2005, 02:59 PM
Do What I Say, Not What I Do (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=967784&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=9&Limit=25&Main=966527&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post967784)

From Philip:
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Actually, if you bought one of these just for trade bait, we call that scalping around these parts.

Just because you move the currency from money to the bust, doesn't make it any less scalping than selling it for more than you paid for it right now.

The whole point behind trying to reduce scalping is to not buy something unless it's for your collection. Any other purpose potentially drives the price up for somebody else because you stole his ability to buy it for the same price you did.

I found this response in that thread to be the best of the bunch.  No idea why...   ;)

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Wow.

So Philip, when my friends up in Canada, or elsewhere around the country/world, ask me to find a few figures at retail for them since they've never been available in their area, you're telling me by doing so I'm aiding the scalping market? Not helping fellow Star Wars collectors, but rather just helping scalpers? That's certainly an interesting, and skewed, perspective. I can guarantee you that A LOT of Star Wars collectors around the world do NOT share your point of view there... If I don't help fellow collectors out with figures at retail cost, won't they have to resort to scalpers? Man, I'm confused. I must've had it backwards all these years.

Essentially, you're now of the opinion that we can't HELP eachother out, since buying stuff for your buddies collections (and not your own) "potentially drives the price up for somebody else because you stole his ability to buy it for the same price you did.". I guess you better shut down your trading and classifieds boards here then. They're obviously a wretched hive of scalper assisting villainy.

Mind boggling, seriously.

And now they're pulling a complete 180 there at RS, and asking their "community" to go out and buy up any ROTS extras they can get their hands on, and send it in to RS?!?  ******' ridiculous...
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2005, 07:39 PM
Like most of you I think that is stuipid especially when Phillip has complined in the past about taking extras for trade or sale in the future.  As someone else mention Philip also is one to talk about sale stuff when its his company that is going to run the Auto's at C3 (I wonder if he will change its name to C3 Ventures).
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Jediknight760071 on February 25, 2005, 08:47 PM
I'm sure some of you think of me as the RS ambassador here on JD, and I will admit that when I read the story I thought it was a good idea.....



But now that I've thought about it...I think you are all right...What a dumb idea.

Imagine yourself at the store....by some miracle, you've got Episode 3 figures in front of you (a 5 dollar bill in your unarmed wallet) and your thinking Coruscant Guard and Bail Organa, or Philip Wise.


Ehhhhhhhhhh.......You choose.


 :)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: CHEWIE on February 25, 2005, 10:51 PM
If I find something early, I'll open them and post pics here.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Ben on February 26, 2005, 12:22 AM
I just think Phil's panties are in a bunch because nobody wants to trade with him.
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on February 26, 2005, 12:07 PM



I'm certainly not an fan and have had my share of encounter so I'm not the most unbiased person to speak. The reason why I visit JD and GH is because of the community these site have built.  There are many here who beyond talking about sci fi hotties and society &  politics threads offer a wealth of knowledge in the collecting community.

RS over the years has seemed to turn from a collective community one that I had turned to for it's host of great talent,  filled with a number of indivduals with a wealth of knowledge to a deviant subculture in the starwars universe. It is the premier example of people who lose focus. I understand that it is costly to run a website for fans I would hope through hit counts and advertisers they make some money to  cover the expenses,but to profit off of me and then ask me to do the work you once vigiantly and feverishly did  to bring me, the collector, the latest news, I find tremendously pathetic. 

If I were an adminstrator of a website I would be asking myself why I'm not being sent information maybe this is a larger by product of what the community thinks of me and my site. Maybe the reason I'm on top is because it's reallly only in my mind and nowhere else.


I have some really good collecting buddies who choose to stay with rebelscum I suppose mainly because we live in and around the Big D. The only reason I'm there is to chat with them in that forum.
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Jediknight760071 on February 26, 2005, 10:36 PM
Do What I Say, Not What I Do (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=967784&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=9&Limit=25&Main=966527&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post967784)

I think RS needs to have a Council of Trent.....I'm getting mixed signals:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1070120&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post10701951070120
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Famine on February 26, 2005, 10:43 PM
What they need is to be digitaly euthanized. :P Hard.

Kevin
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 26, 2005, 11:25 PM
I had a big rant in this space that several of you may have already seen, but in the interest of not starting an "OMG INTARWEB LOL" war, I deleted it all.  Basically, the entire post could be summed up in one brief group of statements:

As Harry Tuttle told Sam in "Brazil," "We're all in it together, kid."  No collector is better than any other collector and we are all equals.  We need to worry more about helping each other as people and friends and fans and less time worrying about how others will perceive us if we don't have ROTS photos two months early. 

I'm going to stop hugging the tree now.   8)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Nicklab on February 26, 2005, 11:55 PM
I think the situation is kind of ridiculous.  Why the hell are they offering to buy product from people who find it early?  I can understand wanting to get things early in order to offer the images to their readers.  Perhaps they're trying to make up for their half-assed Q&A efforts at Toy Fair?

Fact is that GH has pretty well scooped every other collecting site when it comes to new figure images.  I can say this with some degree of objectivity AND perspective since I've worked as a Star Wars collecting site reporter for the past 4 years or so.  This just looks like RS is trying to play catchup now.
Title: Give me a medal
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 11, 2005, 12:57 AM
I've never had this happen before...slow connection + impatience = Double post record.....

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1063949&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=6&vc=1


I thought the problem was solved and there were no more double posts......


That's really embarassing, yet after a minute of looking at it, I laughed hysterically at my desk.

I'm Always talking about post padding like it's so fun, and I've been joking around about it for a long time, but now I'm afraid everyone's gonna take me seriously.


Oh crap...The admins are gonna fry me. :-[ :-\ :)
Title: Re: Give me a medal
Post by: Chris on March 11, 2005, 01:02 AM
Interesting.
Title: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 27, 2005, 10:37 PM
Since when did I agree to be solicited for crap I don't give to ***** about?  Especially since my account was banned for any type of use 3 months ago.  I think someones head continues to balloon to more and more epic proportions.

http://www.rebelscum.com/privacy.asp

I don't see anything in their privacy policy stating that I want to get Junk Mail from them.  Bastards >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Chris on March 27, 2005, 10:43 PM
Yes, I received that as well and was quite disgusted.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 10:45 PM
I got a TRU Ad from Philip Wise himself, about midnight madness. Is that what you guys are complaining about? I too was annoyed at this.



HOLD THE PHONE:

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We may offer a free electronic newsletter to users. Rebelscum.com gathers the email addresses of users who voluntarily subscribe. Users may remove themselves from this mailing list by following the link provided in every newsletter that points users to the subscription management page. Users can also subscribe to the newsletters at the time of registration.

What about Ad's ya bunch of Jackasses...I just looked this ad up and down and over and side to side and there isnt a sodding unsubscribe feature...Liars.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2005, 10:46 PM
The first thing I did was reply to sender about that ad...

Thanks, but no thanks.   >:(

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 27, 2005, 10:53 PM
If you are going to ban me (which I have no idea why I was banned BTW) have the decency of removing my e-mail address from your damned Spam Listings ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 10:55 PM
You know this doesn't suprise me.


It really doesn't, and it just hit me. Here is why:

They got some figures from Hasbro for 'free' to photograph and reveiw...nothing in life is free. I'm betting they shelled out some email adresses and they got around, or they are getting stuff in exchange for distributing spam.

Jesus.

Happy Easter every one. :P

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2005, 11:01 PM
If you are going to ban me (which I have no idea why I was banned BTW) have the decency of removing my e-mail address from your damned Spam Listings ::)

Here's whay Phil had to say...

PW comment #1 (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB12&Number=1100913&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1100792&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1100913)

PW comment #2 (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB12&Number=1101272&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1100792&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1101272)


"If you do not wish to receive it, you are encouraged to stop using it and notify me such so I may remove your accounts."

- what about those whose accounts you CLOSED/BANNED, yet you STILL spammed them.   ::)

Lame.

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 11:06 PM
I just put my account on the line and asked him.

If he strikes me down now I will become more powerful than he could ever imagine.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Vator on March 27, 2005, 11:07 PM
Uhhh, why the **** am I getting RS spam? I've been banned there for months. Friggen' Phaag that Phil is.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 11:37 PM
OWNED BY MS. STEWART!

Check that last post out. It's a beauty.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Deanpaul on March 27, 2005, 11:48 PM
OWNED BY MS. STEWART!

Check that last post out. It's a beauty.

Kevin

Ms. Stewart is a beauty, or the post?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 11:52 PM
Both.

I need to make an I <3 Martha Stewart Tee for C3.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 28, 2005, 12:16 AM
The first thing I did was reply to sender about that ad...

Thanks, but no thanks.   >:(

Jeff

I think we should all reply to sender again and again.  I think that its funny that some of the banned members are getting this email from him since you have no accounts over there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 28, 2005, 12:25 AM
 "I don't like Spam!" (http://members.fortunecity.com/wavjunky/swl-d/dontspam.wav)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2005, 12:56 AM
I too thought this thing was in poor taste.

It certainly looks like everyone's trying to cash in for this last Star Wars flick, and I'll be glad when it's over and I can leave this nonsense behind. (Read my blog for more.)

I only use RS for the Area Reports forum, and think I'll just let him remove my account since I'm not going to let that ******* sell my email address to TRU. (I'm not sure, but I think that's the case here.)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 28, 2005, 01:02 AM
Nooo! Another one bites the dust. :(

You guys are dropping like flies.

Oh well.

Check you PM's HMI.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2005, 01:18 AM
As I mentioned in the rebelscum thread just now - I receieved this spam mail at my WORK email address, which is not the address I put into my rebelscum profile.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on March 28, 2005, 02:04 AM
yeah not a cool thing, that's why I started the thread on scum in the first place. we'll see now if phil clears things up after my most recent post. and hopefully in a way that doesn't come off as belligerent.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 28, 2005, 04:01 AM
Well, I wouldn't count on anything being handled in a manner that says "Hey, sorry, I was wrong", that's for sure.

I think many people here can be quite assured that no matter what you don't like about Rebelscum, the answer there is and always will be, "Well we can just cancel your account to this forum".  I've never seen anyone not give two ***** about other collector's opinions so much. 

I think this whole matter is really quite sad, and nobody should be subjected to spam unwarranted.  It's basically been proven that Scum's being abusive of the emails they have, and I'm curious to see how this turns out.

I also love how people who seem to have a "need" of sucking up to the admin over there are quick to Rebelscum's defense too!  That's really classic...   ;D  First to run up and cup the administration's balls while they scold anyone who complains about the spam they got.  God forbid we ever voice a complaint against something they did...  OOOOooo  :) 

I guess certain folks just need that forum, and to be in its good graces. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 28, 2005, 05:06 AM
I don't know why I even bothered making a post in that thread...nothing's gonna change.

at leas it didn't get locked within the day like usual. :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on March 28, 2005, 12:06 PM
So others got that message too? I was wondering why a banned member like me was getting ads from TRU and Philip Wise. Lame.

But wait, doesn't Phil make $$$ off of those adds? Which is why all of the "news" items are plugs for stores? ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on March 28, 2005, 02:06 PM
eh go figure, the reply he Phil made had the same old belligerent undertones to it. not even an attempt to say something like "hey, it is in our policy and we're sorry that it bothers you. the only way to get out of the list is cancel your account here, but we hope that you would consider staying and being part of our community. thank you"

instead he went off on a rant about pointing fingers at him, so sad....
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 28, 2005, 02:11 PM
**** this game. The only reason my presense is felt at Rebelscum is because their custom section has more active posters. I think I have posted a total of 4 times elsewere. He still wont unlock my signature editing feature, because of the petition against GNT I mentioned that took off. I stuck it, and a link here in my signature and he slapped the lock on it so quick it made my head spin. I think he also said he wanted an apology, wich he will NOT get from me.

First it will be one a year...then we will get another, and another. >:(

I cant wait till that reverse spam program comes out.

I certainly hope that he and I meet at C3 so I can give him a piece of my mind, and ask him a few questions. >:(

Kevin

At least he fessed up to getting money from them for it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 28, 2005, 02:12 PM
Its amazing that people still continue to support the biggest dickhole in the community.

Its easy people, stop posting there and he'll go away and his empire from which he is leeching thousands of dollars off of will also crumble.  TFN and Rebelscum are far from "Fan Friendly" its all business and always will be all business.  Its disgusting
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 28, 2005, 02:17 PM
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What I don't understand is how it's possible this email really bothered any of you. You think you're going to trip me up and point a finger at me? Get a life and move along. We have tens of thousands of users who were delighted to receive the emails, hope we continue the site, and support everything we do on it. I'll waste no further time on this issue with you.

Oh man...I just love how the Forum suggestions section is working out...what a service. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 28, 2005, 02:26 PM
Its amazing that people still continue to support the biggest dickhole in the community.

Its easy people, stop posting there and he'll go away and his empire from which he is leeching thousands of dollars off of will also crumble.  TFN and Rebelscum are far from "Fan Friendly" its all business and always will be all business.  Its disgusting

Not to mention a liar.

Tens of Thousands who were "delighted"? LMFAO. I guarentee you NO ONE was "delighted" to get an advertising email. At all. Hands down.

I need to lie down.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on March 28, 2005, 02:36 PM
Scott: I hear ya, but unfortunately I'm a victim of supporting the scum forums in a twisted way in that I still goto the vintage and Chicago sections, something which no other site can top. The rest of the place is useless to me though and I find superior talk here for stuff like modern toys and general OT. And yes Scum is treated like a business, which means as such there should be some basic customer service which is certainly not given.

Famine: I don't think most people even realized the e-mail came from Scum, they just saw it as Spam and until it was pointed out where it came from they were unaware what it was. So as you've already said, I'm sure not many were delighted to get the message. And oh yeah, having more active posters, doesn't necessarily relate to having more meaningul posts. think about that for a bit wont you?

JK: read back to my customer service remark above. pretty much it's like they get an actual complaint and then get overly defensive without completely answering the complaint. sounds an awful lot like the cable company :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 28, 2005, 02:53 PM
A great way to talk to your members...

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Get a life and move along.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 28, 2005, 03:06 PM
It's too bad the Customizing section is great there....If only I lived a little north I could post more effectively in the Mission logs here, rather than in the Orange County section at RS.

Ugh..I can't believe I'm still torn after being told to get a life.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 28, 2005, 03:07 PM
Here's a hint, why not start those same threads here and invite people to come on over ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 28, 2005, 03:29 PM
As for Philip, I think his comments, especially this one particular paragraph, much better convey anything that I could possibly say regarding how they feel about their members...

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Philip:
What I don't understand is how it's possible this email really bothered any of you.  You think you're going to trip me up and point a finger at me? Get a life and move along.  We have tens of thousands of users who were delighted to receive the emails, hope we continue the site, and support everything we do on it.  I'll waste no further time on this issue with you.

Kinda scary really.   :-\

Nice to see Jimmy_ come to the rescue as always though, mixing in the usual trolling that goes along with most of his posts as well.  What a tool.  Ironic, since he used to tear Philip apart even worse than anyone before he got banned (the first time) over at RS a couple years ago.  Nice little "arrangement" he and Philip must have now...   ;)

...If only I lived a little north I could post more effectively in the Mission logs here, rather than in the Orange County section at RS.

Justin, our SoCal thread here is for both OC and L.A.  We don't necessarily have to hit the exact same stores as eachother in order for our store reports to be useful.  Just knowing the retail chain where things are showing up and the day they're hitting is usually all we need to know to go find the stuff ourselves, since most stores get/stock their inventories similar between our two neighboring counties.  Not to mention, a lot of us actually go back and forth between the two in our toy hunts.  So knowing what hits the RSM stores, or TMP is still quite helpful to the L.A. guys, as should our reports be helpful to you guys in OC.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 28, 2005, 03:32 PM
Man, I'm feeling left out.  Not only have I never been banned from RS, I've actually won something over there and I still didn't get the email.   :'(  Geez, don't I rate?

I guess it could be because I haven't posted there much in the last couple of years, but I'm still registered.  I think.  I'd have to actually log in to check, but I was a couple of months ago.  

Gotta admit though, his replies are rather, um, insensitive.  I mean really, who defends that kind of ****?  Ah well.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 28, 2005, 03:45 PM
As for Philip, I think his comments, especially this one particular paragraph, much better convey anything that I could possibly say regarding how they feel about their members...

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Philip:
What I don't understand is how it's possible this email really bothered any of you.  You think you're going to trip me up and point a finger at me? Get a life and move along.  We have tens of thousands of users who were delighted to receive the emails, hope we continue the site, and support everything we do on it.  I'll waste no further time on this issue with you.

Kinda scary really.   :-\

"Get a life and move along. "

What a positive way to run a SW Forum.   ::)

He still didn't address why he sent the spam to those who DID "get a life and move along" after having their accounts locked/banned.

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2005, 03:49 PM
I like how he then added what I can only assume to be a response to my work email address being added (unsolicited) to his spam list by saying that they also use email addresses given in give-away entry forms.

I've been a member there for over 3 years and have not ONCE seen them do a give-away.

And the real irony is that while my WORK email address is getting his spam, I'm not getting it at my hotmail account - which is the address I gave in my profile and registration.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 28, 2005, 03:49 PM
Nothing to see here, "get a life and move along". 

I can see a Photoshop opportunity of Shanter and PW's face.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 28, 2005, 03:49 PM
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Justin, our SoCal thread here is for both OC and L.A.  We don't necessarily have to hit the exact same stores as eachother in order for our store reports to be useful.  Just knowing the retail chain where things are showing up and the day they're hitting is usually all we need to know to go find the stuff ourselves, since most stores get/stock their inventories similar between our two neighboring counties.  Not to mention, a lot of us actually go back and forth between the two in our toy hunts.  So knowing what hits the RSM stores, or TMP is still quite helpful to the L.A. guys, as should our reports be helpful to you guys in OC.    
Ohhhhhh, but Matt....That means I have to work ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 28, 2005, 03:58 PM
I've been a member there for over 3 years and have not ONCE seen them do a give-away.

They quit doing their giveaways years ago.  Last few items I remember them giving out were the POTF2 Walmart figure posters and the Target Y-Wings.  Somewhere on the site is a list of contest winners - just check the last date to see how long it's actually been since they had one.  Probably before the (unfortunate) CSW merge.

I also think it's lame that Philip is apparently contradicting himself, saying that if you don't want the e-mails, you'll have to close your account there.  Yet, at the same time, all of the banned members are still getting them.  Phil doesn't seem to want to address that particular issue, I guess...   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 28, 2005, 04:03 PM
Oh, wow.  Hadn't checked RS's front page in a while.  NOW I see why Philip's defending that e-mail so vigilently...

Man, they've got THREE big, flashing TRU Midnight Madness ads all over the front of their site.  No wonder...   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 28, 2005, 07:59 PM
Oh, wow.  Hadn't checked RS's front page in a while.  NOW I see why Philip's defending that e-mail so vigilently...

Man, they've got THREE big, flashing TRU Midnight Madness ads all over the front of their site.  No wonder...   ;)

Isn't that the whole point of the front page?  Run a bunch of ads and put up some collectors pictures (collections, of course) to justify the ads?  Oh, and question Mark shows up once in a while.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: SilverZ on March 28, 2005, 08:05 PM
Don't forget some Walmart exclusive mis-information.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 28, 2005, 08:07 PM
Some? :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on March 28, 2005, 10:03 PM
I like how he then added what I can only assume to be a response to my work email address being added (unsolicited) to his spam list by saying that they also use email addresses given in give-away entry forms.

Perhaps you filled it out somewhere at one of the local Cons?
I'm sure he's spamming those on that mailing list as well...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 28, 2005, 10:04 PM
Well, what'd I tell ya?  Not a word of "Well, sorry..." or anything.  Just a big "Go **** yourself" to the crowd.  :)

I don't mind Philip, never have and he and I have always been cordial with each other, but the way he runs that forum is like a site I used to visit for a video game...  It was run by kids, and kids would always run their mouths at the members of the forum, and never showed a sign of appreciation.

The whole thing is a mess though...  They have no business sending Spam...  Nobody needs it to operate except Spammers.  If TRU is giving you the choice of spamming your members or not using their service then call me nutty but I'd not use their service.  That seems just like you're backdooring them by handing out their private information like that.

And for guys like Rob, that's just downright sleezy activity.  No business doing something like that, especially when it can mean a reprimand by the person's employer.  No excuse for that, whatsoever.

And the banned people getting the mail is just proof that they don't have this whole situation as well thought-out as they claim.  If you're banned, it should be your right to NEVER be contacted by the site.  It's almost borderline harassment by the site administration at that point.

Matt, you nailed it on the "boy who cried obsession" too...  Never seen someone so needy for attention as that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 28, 2005, 11:47 PM
Some one just nailed him on his tens of thousands post. Way to go!

I truly wonder what will come of this.

I just put my rant down.

Lets see where this goes...

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 12:48 AM
Add Sir Steves Guide to the list of whores sites out there spamming their members.

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From :  staff@sirstevesguide.com <staff@sirstevesguide.com>
Sent :  Monday, March 28, 2005 9:15 PM
To :  <removed>
Subject :  Toys "R" Us Midnight Madness Store Locator


Actually I didn't get one from Scum, just SSG...  Neither should be doing this, it's simply pathetic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 01:02 AM
I like how he then added what I can only assume to be a response to my work email address being added (unsolicited) to his spam list by saying that they also use email addresses given in give-away entry forms.

Perhaps you filled it out somewhere at one of the local Cons?
I'm sure he's spamming those on that mailing list as well...


Nope, never met him him person and never signed up for anything at a convention.  I'm usually in and out of the Dallas Sci Fi expo in under an hour.

Like I mentioned in the rebelscum thread, the only place I can think of where he'd have gotten it from, was from a personal email I sent him...  A few months back he had free passes to at 6:30 sneak preview showing of Sky Captain for anyone interested who lived in the DFW area.  I emailed him (I was still at work) asking if I could have some.  He obliged.  It was very nice of him.  The movie was great.  And here we are.  To the best of my memory I've never used that address in any Rebelscum profiles or any freebies or anything like that.  I've used it in trades...but only because it's open all day, and it is only given out like that in PMs. 

Beats me...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Logray2776 on March 29, 2005, 02:23 AM
Hi fellas, hows everyone been? Well I noticed this in my e-mail as well, and decided to post in the thread over yonder at RS, and took care of my problem.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 29, 2005, 02:57 AM
That's the way...I wanna see how it goes before I commit.... :)I'm hoping it can get wrapped up so we benifit...I just don't want SPAM, that's all.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 29, 2005, 04:00 AM
I truly wonder what will come of this.

Nothing at all, actually.  Philip could care less.  He's said so time and again.  This is far from the first time he's told any of his members who've had an issue with him or his site that they can just take a walk, 'cause he's got plenty more members where they came from.

It's just business for him over there.  Nothing personal.  If you don't like the fact that he doesn't give a **** about you, or any of his other members, that doesn't bother him one bit.  And it all trickles down...

I just find it totally bizarre that Darth Big Boy got fired from his mod position for saying a thread was stupid, yet Philip, owner of the site, can tell a good number of his members expressing a concern in a feedback forum to "Get a life" just because they don't care for spam e-mails.  That's just sad.

He should be embarrassed.  Unfortunately, he's not.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 29, 2005, 04:57 AM
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'cause he's got plenty more members where they came from

Unfortunately it's usually quality members that leave/ get banned and the replacements are kids. One's like me.... Except worse.


Imagine that. ;)

EDIT: *Sigh* There goes Dustin, sweeping both issues under the carpet. I think I used to like him.

KBZ...Please LMK if you get the expanation they owe you. I'm very disturbed they locked the thread when it wasn't nearly finished...and without explanation too.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 07:00 AM
That was probably at someone higher's orders.  I'm sure behind-the-scenes it was discussed, and the conclusion was to simply lock it down and punish anyone who brings it up in the future.

To each their own...  If that's how they wanna run the show there, they're welcome to do so.  It's a real shame because to me you build a community by actually being a part of it.  Ruling it without concern for the people there is one major blight on Star Wars collecting though.  I'm really rather shocked on some level that no effort was made to ammend this though.  It's just "my way or no way" for those that the illicit emails actually effected though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 10:25 AM
Yeah, we'll I'm going to ask again.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1103973&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1103973
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 10:33 AM
And my new thread has been locked already...

And they wonder why all the adults leave their site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 29, 2005, 10:34 AM
Wow, that was fast.

Hey Dale, where's that "sweeping it under the rug" smilie?

 ::)

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 10:57 AM
I was told to email Phillip - which I did.  No reply as of yet.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 29, 2005, 10:58 AM
As good as it will get.  :-\

 (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/haushalt/f010.gif)    (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/haushalt/f045.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 29, 2005, 11:18 AM
I was told to email Phillip - which I did.  No reply as of yet.

That comment from Dustin was funny to me as isn't emailing Philip what got you in this situation to begin with :).
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 11:36 AM
Pretty much, yep.  The reply was funny to me because it was so dismissive and rude and contradictory to the idea of a forum.  Much like everything else that's going on over there nowadays.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 11:39 AM
Emailing philip is all a ploy to get more emails.  It's a scam I tells ya!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 11:42 AM
At least I was smart enough to not use a third email address to send this email - I sent it from the work address that I know is already on his list, so it'd be really easy for him to know which one to take off of the list.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on March 29, 2005, 11:47 AM
You ever wonder what Dustin gets out of being Phillips bitch? He needs to grow a sack and call his boss out on this one.

DBB - care to fill us in on what happened over there with you?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 29, 2005, 12:23 PM
You ever wonder what Dustin gets out of being Phillips bitch? He needs to grow a sack and call his boss out on this one.

DBB - care to fill us in on what happened over there with you?

OK......here's the deal.

I was told that my moderator duties were stripped and was told "not to take it the wrong way".  When I asked for an explanation, I was told that posting habits had been observed and it was felt that I should no longer be moderator.....and that was all that was going to be said about it.

I got no further explanation on the matter....which is pretty sad.  Being told "not to take it the wrong way" but yet I can't get the common respect of being told exactly why I was "let go" is pretty lame and not professional ( if you can even call something like this that ).  It's BS.  There's so many other members there that deserve to be disciplined but they get off without even a warning.

There's more to it that led up to the whole thing but I won't get into it here because unlike those involved I have the common courtesy not to disrespect others even if they deserve it.

From what I've been told by some is that I was liked as a member and a moderator.  Way better them some there.  Oh well....what can I say.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 01:05 PM
If you ask me, you're better off without the job - it's thankless and you have to work with a bunch of little kids and a-holes.  At one point I applied and all, but I'm honestly quite happy that I wasn't offered it.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 29, 2005, 01:11 PM
Oh look at that. A lock.

The only reason I ever visit there is because I host CHEWIE's diorama and custom work, and I like to see peoples replies and reactions and such, because well, I had a small part in it. I also like to put my two cents in.


Bastards...

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 29, 2005, 03:16 PM
Looks like I missed some fun at the Scum last night.  I immediately popped over here because (sadly enough) I know this is still the only place you can come to discuss current events happening at Rebelscum freely these days.


Personally, the email itself didn't bother me.  I don't like spam, but this was a targeted advertisement about an event I plan to attend. That kind of "junk" mail doesn't really annoy me anymore than Google ads on sites I like to frequent.

Now, if Philip had sent us all penis enlargement pill emails, that would be another story.

I don't remember whether or not I ever had the opportunity to "opt out" of whatever mailing list I found myself a part of, but I don't think it makes me Philip's bitch if I am not really bothered by an email about a Star Wars sale I'm going to on Friday night.   

So he made a couple of bucks from TRU. Rebelscum has given me more than enough free entertainment in return for that ONE email. On the other hand, was I delighted?  Nah.  I just wasn't pissed like so many others were.  One junk email from a site I've been a member of for 3 years or so is really not that bad.

As for how it was handled after the fact, I thought THAT was the true insult.  The email itself didn't bug me, but the "**** you, leave if you don't like it" did.

That was surprising to see.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 29, 2005, 03:23 PM
As for how it was handled after the fact, I thought THAT was the true insult.  The email itself didn't bug me, but the "**** you, leave if you don't like it" did.

Please don't forget the "Get a life" comment there Josh...   ;)

Yeah, the spam e-mail didn't bother me all that much.  I get plenty of them on a daily basis.  Heck, I originally thought that was directly from TRU when I saw it in there.  Didn't realize otherwise until the ****storm started brewing.

But it was the response from Philip that I found to be in completely poor taste.  God, it's infuriating watching how he treats his forum members there sometimes.  He should be embarrassed for the stuff he said, which was far worse IMO than Tommy calling a thread stupid, which essentially got him fired from the moderator gig.  Ironic that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 29, 2005, 03:30 PM
Why the hell do they close every feedback thread? No one was attacking Philip and he started acting like such a little bitch. What's the deal lately. The mods haven't closed a single thread unless it is a feedback thread or one where DBB was a big contributor (the DVD and "What Movie Did you watch today" threads) There are countless duplicate threads being posted in the Toy sections and the Mods don't even care. In the last 2 weeks they have destroyed their reputation, pissed a lot of people off, all with out an explaination. >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 03:44 PM
Not to mention the now 30 hours of silence to my legitimate question...

No email reply as of yet.  I'm going to have to contact TRU about this crap if I don't hear from him soon.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 29, 2005, 04:03 PM
The thread was closed with no answer for you or an expalination and then when you start a new thread re-asking it they just tell you to mail Philip. Make sure you use an E-mail address where you don't mind spam. ::) He'll probably find a way to steal your address book too.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 29, 2005, 04:37 PM
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Please don't forget the "Get a life" comment there Josh...

Don't worry, I didn't.

Look, I'm not the Rebelscum apologist or anything. I didn't post here to defend Philip.  All I was saying is that the email really didn't bother me, and it's a very small price to have to pay after years of membership.

But yes, the way he handled the reaction by the users was "rude" at best, and I can see why those of you who were directly called out are angry.  As for all the locked threads, at least they weren't deleted. That IMHO, is even worse.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 29, 2005, 05:19 PM
How about this... Stop clicking on the little links on his site! Whenever I shop online, I use a link on a quality site like GalacticHunter or something of the like. Also, when at C3, don't buy any autographs. They will be cheaper online anyway! If you want to meet the actor, stick by them and eventually you might be able to have a small chat.

Stop helping this dickhole!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 29, 2005, 05:31 PM
Who needs Rebelscum when you have JD?  Urge a fellow scummer to come over here.  After all, 'scum is just a dumb website.  You'd think who the hell Phillip is.  He's nobody.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Broem on March 29, 2005, 07:07 PM
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Please don't forget the "Get a life" comment there Josh...

Don't worry, I didn't.

Look, I'm not the Rebelscum apologist or anything. I didn't post here to defend Philip.  All I was saying is that the email really didn't bother me, and it's a very small price to have to pay after years of membership.

But yes, the way he handled the reaction by the users was "rude" at best, and I can see why those of you who were directly called out are angry.  As for all the locked threads, at least they weren't deleted. That IMHO, is even worse.  ;D

I totally agree. I thought the email was kind of odd since I never got any from RS.  It took me a minute to figure our what was going on there.  But he was incredibly rude wiht his comments. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 29, 2005, 07:35 PM
His comments pissed me off much more than the spam. I can deal with that but telling us to get a life? Without us, Phil is out of business... not the smartest move on his part.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 29, 2005, 08:16 PM
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Who needs Rebelscum when you have JD?  Urge a fellow scummer to come over here.  After all, 'scum is just a dumb website.  You'd think who the hell Phillip is.  He's nobody.

Who needs it?  I for one do.  The people who have populated a 5 page thread about it apparently do.


Look...let's call a spade a spade.

if everyone from RS migrated over here, that would be one thing.  But as it stands, this site has like....1/10th (at best) of the active population of Rebelscum.  I like the cozy atmosphere here at JD, but it's just not fun to post in a random topic and wait three days for a reply.  Call it A.D.D, but I like my forum conversations to move a little faster than that.

The only time I see a topic with 5 pages in a one day period over here is (Drum roll) when it's about RS.

As fun as it is to gripe when the admins over there fly off the handle, promote or ban a moderator, or lock a post......it doesn't make me want to give up the daily interaction with my fellow fans to come over here and listen to the crickets chirping.

RS has Wuher's.  They have constant news and conversation in every collecting section I care about.  They have the Seattle community (whose closest and only rival resides at GH).  On top of all that, they have more news than any other site out there with very few exceptions.

If it takes a spam mail or two every once in awhile, or I have to watch while GNT or Lady Jaye locks a thread for post padding (and chuckle at the irony)....I can deal with it.


Everything I just said aside, I like JD. There are a lot of websites I enjoy and this is one of them. It's a fun place, where more than a few people I enjoy talking to hang out.  And you know what?  Someday, if JD ever gets big and interesting enough to be a "daily hangout", I'll be happy to switch my allegiances and never look back. 

Today is unfortunately not that day.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 08:27 PM
Yeah but for the most part the 'fellow fans' over at Rebelscum are 9 year olds.   Meanwhile, it's been almost 36 hours and I've gotten no response as to why my work email is on their spam list and when it is going to be removed.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Chris on March 29, 2005, 09:05 PM
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Who needs Rebelscum when you have JD?  Urge a fellow scummer to come over here.  After all, 'scum is just a dumb website.  You'd think who the hell Phillip is.  He's nobody.

Who needs it?  I for one do.  The people who have populated a 5 page thread about it apparently do.


Look...let's call a spade a spade.

if everyone from RS migrated over here, that would be one thing.  But as it stands, this site has like....1/10th (at best) of the active population of Rebelscum.  I like the cozy atmosphere here at JD, but it's just not fun to post in a random topic and wait three days for a reply.  Call it A.D.D, but I like my forum conversations to move a little faster than that.

The only time I see a topic with 5 pages in a one day period over here is (Drum roll) when it's about RS.

As fun as it is to gripe when the admins over there fly off the handle, promote or ban a moderator, or lock a post......it doesn't make me want to give up the daily interaction with my fellow fans to come over here and listen to the crickets chirping.

RS has Wuher's.  They have constant news and conversation in every collecting section I care about.  They have the Seattle community (whose closest and only rival resides at GH).  On top of all that, they have more news than any other site out there with very few exceptions.

If it takes a spam mail or two every once in awhile, or I have to watch while GNT or Lady Jaye locks a thread for post padding (and chuckle at the irony)....I can deal with it.


Everything I just said aside, I like JD. There are a lot of websites I enjoy and this is one of them. It's a fun place, where more than a few people I enjoy talking to hang out.  And you know what?  Someday, if JD ever gets big and interesting enough to be a "daily hangout", I'll be happy to switch my allegiances and never look back. 

Today is unfortunately not that day.  ;D

I have to jump in here, sorry Josh. RebelScum news? I won't comment there as it would be rude on my part, but when you say they have constant news and updates in the forums? Have you seen Wuher's? It is 90% bull****. ROTS forum? Kids bickering at one another. Saga, OTC, same thing. The ONLY thing I will give you is their Vintage section which is great, as are their store reports section. I'm going to defend (no pun intended) my site when I say you do not wait days for a reply and all replies here (with natural exceptions here and there) are of the highest adult quality. You have not and will not get that at RebelScum. I HOPE that this site NEVER becomes like RebelScum, and as long as I work here, it will not. If and most likely when our traffic is that of theirs, it will be pruned of the ignorance and child-like qualities. I promise that however much traffic is ever here, even that of 10x RebelScum, we will not have their problems. Period.

I want to say in public that I often have disagreed with Josh in these matters but have no hard feelings- that would be child-like and ridiculous. I enjoy reading Josh's posts and believe he is a worthwhile member of Star Wars collecting. We have competition and always will. I am obviously for the site that I work for and will defend it within reason. Josh is 100% correct when he says we do not have the amounts of traffic in the forums that Scum has. It would be great if we had more traffic, every site on the web can say that. I believe our content and quality is better than RebelScum. That is for our readers to decide though. We simply do the best we can.

With that said, you all need to get a life.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 29, 2005, 10:13 PM
I'll be happy to switch my allegiances and never look back. 

Today is unfortunately not that day.  ;D

Thank God for small favors  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 29, 2005, 10:50 PM
I usually am the one instigating these conversations,but I have held back until now. The only reason I go to scum is because the Dallas collectors all seem to congregate there. These guys are some of the best collector I have the priveldge of knowing, genereous ,helpful, all around good people. So I will continue to go there until a more suitable nest is made.

 I think everyone knows I had my fall outs publicly with Phillip and not so publicly.  I visit regularly here at and of course GH. I posted tonight(over at scum), ironically, the reason why I come to these two sights(JD and GH). First the news content can be counted on and reliable. The content  doesn't change two or threee day after it first is dropped. THese guys are more focused on getting the news accurate rather than being first.  I would be extremely embaraassed as a webmaster if the one of the important facets of my website constantly failed its audience. If I focused on News I would rather the news be right than first. but I guess that just me I suppose I wold rather error on the side of caution.

I'm glad I part of the broader community of starwars and when I cross the street to change scenery I'm just as welcomed here as I am at GH thanks to this community.     
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 29, 2005, 10:56 PM
I think it's funny they can't find the time to address KZB's problem but Dustin has time to start stupid threads about Coke commercials.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 29, 2005, 11:17 PM
With that said, you all need to get a life.

 ;D



Good one, boss.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 29, 2005, 11:49 PM
Does Dallas have a collecting club?  Of all the forums I frequent, nothing comes close to the content and comraderie I get from PSWCS (http://www.pswcs.com).  We have about 220 members now, and have an E-mail list where people post stuff all day long.  I get immediate store sightings to my inbox, along with great conversation.  And that's not even mentioning the monthly meetings where we swap stories and toys.

Anyway, if you're not in a collecting club, you should be!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 29, 2005, 11:52 PM
Anyway, if you're not in a collecting club, you should be!

What the hell do you think JediDefender is, Bill?!   ;)

Yeah, we're a little more spread out than your average "local" collecting club, but still...  At least we get to hold our Collecting Club meetings all over the country, from MN to TN to CA...   8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 29, 2005, 11:57 PM
I'll state this again, if you are unhappy with management at said **** hole, start a Finds Thread here.  Your actions in doing so means you are hitting Pappy Wise where it really hurts, his pocket book

The way he has run TheForce.net and the former BHC in the ground should be reason enough to give him the collective finger

All that man sees is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and as others have said, I'm not at all jealous that he can make a buck off of us, but I think any other site leader out there is 1000000 times the person Philip Wise is and will ever be, this is just further proof of the fact that he cares nothing for the fans and only about the money and to me, that is disgusting
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 12:12 AM
I wish there was a way for someone to get into the "freeze@Rebelscum.com" e-mail account, and send out another mass/spamming e-mail to all of their members, with Philip's "Get a life" blurb included in it...  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 30, 2005, 12:21 AM
Anyway, if you're not in a collecting club, you should be!

What the hell do you think JediDefender is, Bill?!   ;)

Yeah, we're a little more spread out than your average "local" collecting club, but still...  At least we get to hold our Collecting Club meetings all over the country, from MN to TN to CA...   8)

Well... yeah... I guess.   I should have said "regional collecting club" or something.   :P

If you guys ever hold a Pennsylvania JD meeting, be sure to give me a holler.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 30, 2005, 01:26 AM
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As fun as it is to gripe when the admins over there fly off the handle, promote or ban a moderator, or lock a post......it doesn't make me want to give up the daily interaction with my fellow fans to come over here and listen to the crickets chirping.

Really? After almost 3 years there, I'm tired of being treated like ****. I find it hard to stay loyal and peppy at a site where whenever someone has a suggestion, no case is made, because they monitor and close those threads lightning fast. I'm tired of it...I really don't think I have to deal with it anymore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 02:11 AM
I just punched out of that ****hole. If I get any form of spam on my email after my public request, I will raise such hell, it will be unfathomable.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2005, 02:32 AM
******' A.

I think I'll compose the most profanity-laced email ever and send it to Phil because I feel like it and don't have a life.  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 30, 2005, 03:07 AM
I finally got some balls and decided to get out of there too...Thanks for giving me some confidence Kevin. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 03:12 AM
Hey, thats why my personal slogan is "When balls just aren't enough..."

But seriously, thanks for jumping ship too. If I went it alone I'd have a bit of egg on my face after my moving speech. ;)

I'm so glad sites like this exist.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 30, 2005, 03:25 AM
This is mainly in reply to Chris, as when I wrote my last reply I was speaking mainly to our good friend Dressel Rebel who said "Who needs RS?" and I said "I do".

Just because I sometimes point out the obvious when people start bashing RS (that it's bigger, and that's reason for a lot of it's problems) doesn't mean I don't like this place. I hope that Chris (and everyone else here) knows that.  

But come on.  As Chris practically said himself, we still need Rebelscum (or a site like it) for a lot of reasons that JD can't currently fulfill.

I mean, if I used JD's thread (which I started) for my Seattle collecting needs:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=1538.0


I'd be a little short on store reports.

If you take a look at the classified ads, there are still posts from February on the 1st page. Not exactly the best place to find the most deals from fellow collectors on the net.

A quick trip to the front page of Wattos Junkyard reveals topics as old as the middle of the month. Not exactly the best place for the latest random chit chat with Star Wars fans.

I'm not saying JD doesn't have quality stuff here, it just doesn't have traffic to sustain that quality at the same rate as the bigger sites. That's the only reason I don't hit the site every few hours like I do RS.  I still make it point to stop by at least weekly....and that's usually enough to catch up on what's been going on.

After the few years I've been here, I'll still maintain that you don't have to choose "one or the other", as both sites have their merits. It's just like anything else in life. Some days I feel like getting my news from a big site like CNN, and other days I just want to read someone's blog.

Hopefully this post will help smooth over any feathers I may have ruffled with my last one, which again....was not my intent.  My real intent was to point out that RS can't be all bad, or we wouldn't have a 6 page thread still discussing it today. That's all.  ;D


Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 30, 2005, 04:00 AM
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If you guys ever hold a Pennsylvania JD meeting, be sure to give me a holler.

I think that'd ammount to myself, Bob, and you Bill....  ;)  I just don't run into PA guys much.  I think they do consider PSWCS their home.  I don't personally, but only because I can't abide email servers anymore...  I stick with Pittsburgh's local forum since it's the best for the local guys, and that's generally enough PA stuff for me.

I do like to think of myself as a pseudo-PSWCS member though since I did try it briefly, and since the meetings are always on my priority list.

Anyway, as far as content though, I have to agree with Chris that while there's some things Scum has that fulfill a need, I can't say that they're dominant in any way. 

I look through the customs area there, however it has degenerated in the past year +, and I think FFURG.com does a better service to the customizing hobby.  Rebelscum is generally filled with people looking for praise.

Rebelscum's vintage area has taken a nosedive.  While there are still many of the knowledgeable folks there, many have also headed off for greener fields as well, and the truly knowledgeable there don't always speak up anymore.  I can't blame them either considering some of the people they've had invade that area.

The older collection areas (POTF2,E1, etc.) are more often than not just BAD conversation...  People asking for prices, value, etc.  I can't exactly look at that as quality. 

Newer collecting areas (OTC, ROTS, etc.) are more often than not filled with A) the condescending, arrogant, ego-manaical pricks who (if they were here) would be (or some even are) banned...  B) the "newbies" who come in with the intent of running the show there...  C) the kids who are what they are...  D) the odd person trying to make conversation good.  I stress that D is the minority.

Other Collectibles, Lego, and their film/EU areas tend to have more traffic.  More people with more questions and such, but also these areas (especially the film/EU areas where I do go often still) are more and more filling up with what the newer collecting areas have.  A lotta jerks, a lotta kids, and a handful of people that it's fun to talk to.

Trading...  More people is good and bad.  We don't have the issues with bad traders they do, and I have to say that we act more swiftly on any situation that would arise.  For instance, Matkatnadam's blatant scalping of the Lava Vader would have garnered him at the very least a suspension here I would think.  His beligerence on the subject would've been banishment.  Simple as that.  Yet there he is at Scum (What the hell happened to "Collect to Collect" and all that ****?)...  Is that good?  I dunno if that's who I want to converse with personally.

EDIT: BTW, maybe I just don't trade much, but I think I've done 99% of my trading here and 1% at Scum.  More people is ok, but it doesn't necessarilly mean you won't get the job done here either.  Usually when I need something someone here's willing to help first.  AND, the few times I have traded at Scum I've gotten **** from the other end because it's often some new guy with no established record who wants things his way...  Again, is that quality?  Seems riskier than Ebay to me.

Wuher's is a joke compared to here IMO...  Not even a comparison.  I'll take less one-liner responses, good moderating, and generally good mature conversation over that.  Wuher's offers you some good posts, but you have to find them among the sludge that is 80% to 90% of Wuher's conversation.  From entire topics right down to single responses. 

Basically what I'm saying is I don't really want to dig through a 12 page topic to see what the conversation between JoshEEE and JohnH was, when I have to weed through blight's, "Hey that is cool", Yodaboi's, "Sahdut upa you mron!!", or several  ::) ,  :P , or  >:(  ;D  :D 's... 

Oh yeah, and the ever present "Me too!"/"I agree!", of course.

Smaller?  Less traffic?  Maybe...  but I think when I break Rebelscum's traffic down to what I ACTUALLY read, it perhaps evens out, and I'd actually say there's more here I'm actively reading and find interesting.

That's my take...  I started looking this way when Matt pointed my eyes this way...  Long before I even considered a job offer.  This was just better.  This was where the names I knew and appreciated had gone. 

Some stuck by Scum.  Some went to GalacticHunter (more than are at Scum by a longshot in and of itself), and the vast majority came here.  And more have come over since, so I'll never look at Scum's traffic as anything more than clutter I am labored to pick through to actually read the INTERESTING post.  And they sure as **** are rare these days.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Hemish on March 30, 2005, 06:58 AM
I actually never recevied that email , i have to admit that the only things i goto scum for are the Aussie updates, unfortunately try as i have the guys don't really seem to wanna come over here, hey thats cool.
This has got me a little perplexed, when the merge from CSW to the scum forums happened we wouldnt have has that agreement about the emails would we ? because we didn't sign up for those forums but for the CSW one?
I dont pop into wuhers at all , the only other place i do pop into occasionally is their prop forum.
As for traffic at this site i was here when Chris started out at the old jedichris site and was impressed by what he started, and after leaving the internet for 2 years and then coming back on to find JC had becom JD and the site it was i was very happy, Give me quality traffic over quantity of traffic any day.
So when do i become a mod? ;)
Is spamming illegal in the US? cause it is here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Vator on March 30, 2005, 07:10 AM
But does this entire afair suprise anyone? From all the experiances so many of us have had there, is it any wonder that Phillip would pull something like this? Kinda like what he did to his moderators at TFN last year, or back when we had mass bannings at RS.

That said, I am glad to see some people finally moving on. If Natural Selection is true, then your survival is looking much more probable  :P.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 10:30 AM
Let the record show that we're approaching 48 hours - that's two solid days, and I have no response to my question.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 30, 2005, 10:59 AM
Let the record show that we're approaching 48 hours - that's two solid days, and I have no response to my question.
Granted Phil is most likely a busy person like everyone else here but you would think that since your question was asked in the orignal thred that he could of replied to your comment Zod in this 48 hours.  I would of thought he would of told you an answer before the orignal thread was lock since it was one of the more valid concerns with this issue.

I will end up like alot of you here in opt out of the Scum since it seems the Webmaster of the site doesn't give a damn about his members, since we need to get a life.  This along with the hypcoise of the rules where certain mods can start flame wars with members and other things while another moderator can be demoted for calling a thread stupid.  The only reason I'm waiting is I'm in the middle of a trade once I finsih it I'm gone from there for good, won't be fair for the other member I trading with to just leave. 

Over the past few years that I have trade over at Scum I have had alot of people who have said they were interested but never get back to me usually after I tell other interested parties that these items are no longer avilable because I have a buyer/trader for them.  By the time I decide to see if the orignal person wants it thhose other people that were interested are no longer interested or have already found another one.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:01 AM
In the past when I've emailed him I've always heard back within a few hours.   I'm willing to wait longer, but if I don't hear anything in the next day or two - I'm going to start calling TRU's corporate offices to figure out who the appropriate person to complain to would be.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 30, 2005, 11:07 AM
I'm going to start calling TRU's corporate offices to figure out who the appropriate person to complain to would be.

Why do I get that feeling they will give you this answer:

Please email Philip Wise ( philip@rebelscum.com )
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 30, 2005, 11:20 AM
Quantity or quality.  I made my choice.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:20 AM
I'm going to start calling TRU's corporate offices to figure out who the appropriate person to complain to would be.

Why do I get that feeling they will give you this answer:

Please email Philip Wise ( philip@rebelscum.com )

Only if Dustin works there.



In other news - for those wondering if they are exempt because they originally signed up for CSW and not Rebelscum - I don't think that works:

http://www.rebelscum.com/privacy.asp

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YOUR CONSENT
By using this site, you consent to the collection and use of this information by Rebelscum.com. If we decide to change our privacy policy, we will post those changes on this page so that you are always aware of what information we collect, how we use it, and under what circumstances we disclose it.

Unless they added that very recently to cover their own asses.


Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 30, 2005, 11:36 AM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1104922&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post11056481104922

Wise locked that thread because the site in question is not a sponser. What a douche.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 11:51 AM
Wise locked that thread because the site in question is not a sponser. What a douche.

I was watching Philip stare at that thread for quite a while in the "Who's Online" area, and was fully suspecting that was exactly what he was about to do.  Pretty sad that you can no longer discuss any great deals/sites over there for picking up SW collectibles unless Phil stands to profit off of it.

Certainly predictable they are though, I'll give them that much...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Broem on March 30, 2005, 12:21 PM
RS has helped me plenty over the years for information.  Both from the front page to the members inside.   There is a lot of bickering and such but that comes from it being so large.  The only website where I actually dropped off from was SirStevesGuide.com.  I just could not stand that place for some reason.  I think because it was incredibly rude from the members up to the guys running their site. 

I do enjoy coming to JD the most though.  I think it is because people here seem to be more mature.  Even if I am not. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 12:59 PM
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Dear Famine,
 
Your account at Rebelscum Forums has been deleted as per your request.

Sincerely,
Dustin Roberts
www.rebelscum.com

Now, did anyones questions get answered? No.

Kevin

What a mornon I am, I put image tags. :-[
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 30, 2005, 01:51 PM
Does Dallas have a collecting club?  Of all the forums I frequent, nothing comes close to the content and comraderie I get from PSWCS (http://www.pswcs.com).  We have about 220 members now, and have an E-mail list where people post stuff all day long.  I get immediate store sightings to my inbox, along with great conversation.  And that's not even mentioning the monthly meetings where we swap stories and toys.

Anyway, if you're not in a collecting club, you should be!

Bill why must you self promote everything you do.?There something to be said for content over the  bells and whistles. Let things happen naturally, it will for you.  I think your an incredible talented artist as a matter of fact You have more artistic talent in your  finger than I do in my whole body, but  you gotta have some shame somewhere.  ;D. Just tone down the self promoting advertisements it will come to bite you  in the butt sooner or later. It certainly reveals character.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 30, 2005, 03:15 PM
Hey now... I was promoting http://PSWCS.com in that message.  That's a collecting club I belong to... and really has nothing to do with my art.

Now if I was plugging http://CreatureCantina.com (which, BTW, has a FANTASTICALLY funny update this week including a story about this whole spamming episode), then you would have a point.   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 03:20 PM
Shameless Bill, shameless.  Nicely done.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 30, 2005, 03:20 PM
Shameless plug Bill?   :D 

RebelSpam!  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rofl.gif)  Thanks for the laugh Bill, that report is Priceless!  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 30, 2005, 03:38 PM
[sarcasm]I'm just glad you proved to me there's no truth in my comments. I can admit when I'm wrong.  I'm sure that day will come. [/sarcasm]

 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 03:54 PM
...(which, BTW, has a FANTASTICALLY funny update this week including a story about this whole spamming episode)...

Indeed!  That sucked as much as any suck could possibly suck.  Well done Bill.  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 30, 2005, 03:58 PM
Hey now... I was promoting http://PSWCS.com in that message.  That's a collecting club I belong to... and really has nothing to do with my art.

Now if I was plugging http://CreatureCantina.com (which, BTW, has a FANTASTICALLY funny update this week including a story about this whole spamming episode), then you would have a point.   ;D

HaHa!  I wish someone would post that over at RS...even though it would be closed in record time.  Too bad they can't take care of member problems ( KBZ ) in record time.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 04:29 PM
Apparently two and a half days with 3 posted inquiries and one direct email to the webmaster isn't enough either.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: sfg on March 30, 2005, 05:02 PM
Have fun (http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=bomb&destruction=massive&control=on&url=http://threads.rebelscum.com/ubbthreads.php).

:)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 05:06 PM
Have fun (http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=bomb&destruction=massive&control=on&url=http://threads.rebelscum.com/ubbthreads.php).

Indeed!  If only it were real.  Fun nonetheless...  Thanks!

 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 05:09 PM
I love you sfg. :-*

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 30, 2005, 05:24 PM
Shameless Bill, shameless.  Nicely done.  :)

Hey... I have a reputation to maintain.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on March 30, 2005, 06:02 PM
Ahhh, my fellow comrades all together...Cable, Zod and the guy that can't spell.   :P

I, too, received that TRU email at work and I am still wondering how the hell that thing got through our spamware and how RS even got it!!

I tell ya, that Wise character is making money hand over fist off of us - he's whoring us out!!

 8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 07:31 PM
My work is re-locating to a new building starting today and finishing on Monday - until then, the email address in question will be offline - so even if Phillip bothers to write me back, I won't be able to get it.

Time to send a PM I suppose...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: MetalJedi on March 30, 2005, 08:22 PM
Where's the Rebelscum/Hitler logo that Jango Fettish made when you need it?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 30, 2005, 08:56 PM
Looks like S_L_C is squaring off with the administration.


Good luck man.Hope you can bring some more attention to this... (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1106787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1106787)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 09:07 PM
I cant check their threads out anymore because my account was banned. Not DELETED like I requested.

Just when I think I'm free they found a new way to shank me...

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 09:17 PM
Looks like S_L_C is squaring off with the administration.

I was going to respond to it with the exact response he was going to get, but decided it was probably best not to stir the pot over there any more right now, considering the hoopla I raised over Matkatnadam scalping his Lava Vader on eBay, and over Jimbo being a flaming ******* like usual.

But my bet is the next post in SLC's thread will look something like this:


Thanks for your concern.  The administration will take it under consideration.  If you have any specific questions, feel free to e-mail Philip directly at Philip@Rebelscum.com, so he can then proceed to not read it and ignore you, while you continue to wonder in the ensuing weeks if anyone here gives two ***** about you (we don't).  Please also use a different e-mail account than the one listed in your profile here (preferably your work one), so that we can add it to our mailing list as well.  Thanks.

- Dustin ('cause Phil would never respond to this bull**** nonsense anymore, unless it was to tell you pathetic idiots to "Get a life")

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on March 30, 2005, 09:23 PM
I cant check their threads out anymore because my account was banned. Not DELETED like I requested.

Just when I think I'm free they found a new way to shank me...

Kevin

Delete the cookies. It's how I got around my ban.

And I don't think it's possible to delete accounts. Another false statement made by Wise.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 30, 2005, 09:42 PM
Wow. Dustin is almost as big an ass as Philip. Is he paid?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 09:51 PM
I was going to respond to it with the exact response he was going to get, but decided it was probably best not to stir the pot over there any more right now, considering the hoopla I raised over Matkatnadam scalping his Lava Vader on eBay, and over Jimbo being a flaming ******* like usual.

But my bet is the next post in SLC's thread will look something like this:


Thanks for your concern.  The administration will take it under consideration.  If you have any specific questions, feel free to e-mail Philip directly at Philip@Rebelscum.com, so he can then proceed to not read it and ignore you, while you continue to wonder in the ensuing weeks if anyone here gives two ***** about you (we don't).  Please also use a different e-mail account than the one listed in your profile here (preferably your work one), so that we can add it to our mailing list as well.  Thanks.

- Dustin ('cause Phil would never respond to this bull**** nonsense anymore, unless it was to tell you pathetic idiots to "Get a life")

 :P

Interesting.  A few minutes after I posted this, I got banned from Rebelscum.  I guess Philip and Dustin are actually reading this thread...   :P

I wonder if everyone else who's posted "not nice" things in here about them is going to get banned as well, or if I'm just getting special attention over there, as usual...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 10:00 PM
Yep.  Just special attention for me.  Dustin didn't like my post a few minutes ago.  Funny, but I don't recall reading anything in their Forum Rules that says you can't talk **** about them at other forums...

I guess the truth hurts.

This also confirms why Rob/Kneel Before Zod didn't get the moderator position over there a few months back, and also why Scott/OCB got inexplicably banned over there too.  Philip apparently enjoys perusing these RS threads over here at JD when they pop up on occasion, and if you talk too much **** here, there's gonna be hell to pay over there.  Well, at least Phil can get a little more constructive criticism on his ****** up forums when he does so.  As if he gives a ****...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 10:25 PM
Deleted my cookies.

Got in.

Read the occouring chaos. Impresive. Most impresive.

I like how my thread was deleted.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 30, 2005, 10:52 PM
Just a quick thought to those of you who still have a RS forums account and can do so (but only with his blessing, of course):

Why doesn't someone post an open thread asking about KBZ's ignored emails and PMs regarding Wise using his personal email address for private correspondence for his own spam mailing list?  If Wise won't answer it in private, maybe someone needs to make that public information as well.

Like I said, I wouldn't do this without KBZ's permission, as given the RS forum's level of maturity, they're liable to call him a "poo poo head" or something equally damaging, but it's obvious that Wise is avoiding the issue and sending his lapdog to lock down the forums so that nothing can get through, so maybe it's time this was taken public.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on March 30, 2005, 10:57 PM
^^ I think someone tried that already, but the thread was deleted by Philip's new bitch Dustin.

And for some reason, I can't help but laugh at JediMAC being banned. Something about Philip telling everyone to get a life, then reading threads about his site on other forums. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:11 PM
Phillip responded to the PM - said (somewhat ironically) that his spam filter probably kept him from getting the email and then asked me for the email address in question.

I'm assuming it's being removed.  I do find it a bit ridiculous that you can get banned over there for posting over here - but then again, what can you do...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Logray2776 on March 30, 2005, 11:13 PM
Damn, I am glad i told them to delete my account from there they are gettin downright retarded over there.


Whats the problem with those guys anyway?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:18 PM
The problem is that no matter how many people get pissed off and leave, they'll always have plenty of little kids signing up en masse in great enough quantities to continue bringing in the advertising dollars.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 30, 2005, 11:19 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=90821

Wow. It's such a coincidence that Philip is the one who posted that little news nugget...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Logray2776 on March 30, 2005, 11:22 PM
Thats a very valid point there KBZ, but on the bright side i wont have to worry with them anymore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 30, 2005, 11:23 PM
Spuffy has the right idea (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=6820.new#new)

There is no reason why the same conversations and finds and trades can't be happening here instead of that cess pool.  I'm not exactly sure why this isn't sinking in.  All you need to do to convince people to abandon ship is point out this...

Get a life and move along.  (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB12&Number=1102372&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1100792&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1102372)

Tell Phil Wise to shove it and come on over here, like I said, hit him where it count$ the mo$t  He obviously cares two ***** about his community, he only care$ about the revenue it bring$ in
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 30, 2005, 11:32 PM
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I'm not sure what you need answers to but if it is the thread about Philip and the so called spam, he clearly stated he was done discussing it.
I think this sums up everyone's thoughts/expectations about how their Feedback and Suggestions section works...they have no idea they're being bitches, do they? ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:43 PM
Ahhh, my fellow comrades all together...Cable, Zod and the guy that can't spell.   :P

I, too, received that TRU email at work and I am still wondering how the hell that thing got through our spamware and how RS even got it!!

I tell ya, that Wise character is making money hand over fist off of us - he's whoring us out!!

 8)

Good decision!

Welcome aboard - and tell all your friends.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2005, 11:58 PM
Ahhh, my fellow comrades all together...Cable, Zod and the guy that can't spell.   :P

I, too, received that TRU email at work and I am still wondering how the hell that thing got through our spamware and how RS even got it!!

I tell ya, that Wise character is making money hand over fist off of us - he's whoring us out!!

 8)

Dude! Glad to see you here!
I went by Balki at RS until recently. Spuffy started up a Iowa finds thread, so please, join us!  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 12:06 AM
I guess this ends my Rebelscum era of posting.   Get a Life (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107096&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107096)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 31, 2005, 12:08 AM
I guess this ends my Rebelscum era of posting.   Get a Life (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107096&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107096)

I don't think Depmode likes you. ;)

I'm glad I'm not the only one making the switch.

BTW...DId I ever trade with you....maybe a year ago? Or was that another Darth ________? :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 12:11 AM
I guess this ends my Rebelscum era of posting.   Get a Life (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107096&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107096)

I don't think Depmode likes you. ;)

I'm glad I'm not the only one making the switch.

BTW...DId I ever trade with you....maybe a year ago? Or was that another Darth ________? :)

I don't care what kids think of me over there.    Most of the people that I know like are either here or GH.   
I'm not sure if we traded before I think it was probally another Darth over there.

EDIT: 
If any Rebelscum admins are reading this (IE Philip and Dustin) you guys are a bunch of idiots.   You run your site like a certain movie character which meet a very long fall. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 12:26 AM
They police Wuhers and the Feedback thread like a military state, but when it comes to the customs section, or the movie area, you can have 2 or 3 of the same threads, asking the same question, and thats alright.

I wonder when the Fuhrer will finnaly lose.

I doubt he will because he'll always have the latest 11 year olds swearing and talking l33t to feed his marketing gods.

Kevin

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 12:27 AM
I got that e-mail the other day. I don't even remember what it was about; I deleted it as soon as I got it. Funny thing is I had a bogus e-mail listed, and just changed it to my real one, then got the mailing. Anyway, I hadn't noticed the uproar until tonight's "Get A Life..." thread at RS. Guess I'll put another bogus address in. I just read Wise's response to the the subject on his forum. He sure is a ****sucker.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 31, 2005, 12:37 AM
Hey Famine....don't forget the EU Figures Section that's really just a place for people to post "Hey! I Have No Idea What I'm Doing Here! Isn't The CW Cartoon Cool?!"

Ugh. They really need to get their act together.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 12:43 AM
**DON'T FORGET TO $TOP BY TRU FOR MIDNIGHT MADNE$$!**
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 12:47 AM
You can't post what movies you watched today, but you can post pictures of Star Wars potatoes. ::)

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1106897&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post11070941106897

And by Dustin no less. I wouldn't be surprised if this was made a sticky topic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2005, 03:12 AM
That tool Dustin made a post regarding the Early Bird set. It was about an online auction, and it actually had the figure pictures with it.

Well, he didn't link to it, and I searched ebay high and low, and didn't find it, so I say he's full of **** and talking out his ass.

To misquote the movie Rain Man, "Dude, RS sucks."
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 04:02 AM
I always thought that Dustin was one of the few cool/decent guys over at RS, and never really had much of a problem with him before.  Though I knew he was Philip's right hand man, I was always under the assumption that Dustin was still his own man however.

But apparently you guys have been right all along.  He's very much 50 feet up Philip's ass, and will continue to play his bitch for a long time to come I think, since Philip doesn't seem too interested in addressing most issues over there anymore.  I feel rather sorry for Dustin actually, since I'm sure he knows deep down that he's working for a total prick, who's completely screwed over much of the collecting community, and could care less about them outside of what they can contribute to his pocketbook...

And it's still total bull**** that Philip even has those forums in the first place, since they got handed to him on a silver platter by Mike at GH when they merged several years ago.  Prior to that, RS had the "Rebel Lounge", which had all of about 20 or so members in it, and now look what a post whore machine it's turned into...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 31, 2005, 05:09 AM
Speaking of kids....What a great time for this thread... (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1106108&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1106108) :-\

EDIT: Nice try Darth Kenobi, but your thread was.........DELETED. :-X
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Vator on March 31, 2005, 07:20 AM
Now see, that kid's a dumbass. As are all the RS suck up members (even though I sorta was one when I was..uh, 12).

And welcome to all those that have finally left RS. You're that much better for it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Xander on March 31, 2005, 08:25 AM
Well this whole situation has been rather eye-opening.  (More so than GNT's annoying (http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/icons/eek.gif) that's posted for every little thing.)

"Get a life" - that's the turning point for me.  And all these bannings?  How long before Martha Stewart's gone?  I detected some thoughtfulness in those posts, so it looks like curtains for him(her). Geez, ROTS is really bringing out the best in everybody.  Wuher's has dwindled down to nothing. I can't get any good info in the ROTS section from all the speculation. What else is there?  Vintage always has good info from the hardcore crowd, but they might as well be their own forum anyway.

I'll say this, I read JD a lot more than I post here. (I don't want to bring the place down.)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on March 31, 2005, 10:32 AM
Dustin's over here as we speak, more than likely reading this very thread. How about you take this opportunity to prove you aren't just Phil's puppet as so many people think and admit he was dead wrong with how he's been treating his members.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 31, 2005, 11:03 AM
Dustin's over here as we speak, more than likely reading this very thread. How about you take this opportunity to prove you aren't just Phil's puppet as so many people think and admit he was dead wrong with how he's been treating his members.

Can't do that, the honorable Mr. Wise might read it too. :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2005, 11:11 AM
It would be hilarious (and painfully obvious what would happen) for Dustin to speak his mind here.  It'd no doubt cost him his gig over there so there is no way he'd say anything here.

It is fun to watch all the traffic here though... quite a few of RS's mods/admins have been over here for a look-see and no doubt are discussing this ****-storm over in their secret admin forums.

I still think that the SPAM mail sucked, but I understand it was a part of the "business" side of RS.  I get that - money is the end reason for actions over at RS now, not the users.  It's a hobby that became a business.

I just think it was pretty crappy to tell off his forum members the way he did with a "if you don't like it you can go home" attitude.  Very un-professional, but I guess if I had to deal with all the dumbasses over there on a regular basis like he does, my patience would be worn thin too.   :P

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jokabofe on March 31, 2005, 11:42 AM
It is fun to watch all the traffic here though... quite a few of RS's mods/admins have been over here for a look-see and no doubt are discussing this ****-storm over in their secret admin forums.

Which is kinda funny, 'cause I tried to access their forums to see what all the hoopla was about, I was able to get in last night and read a few threads, but this morning I tried to go back and finish up my reading and my account has been locked or deleted.

Huh?

I haven't posted there in months, hell I've barely posted here in months (and I'm a staff member here) - but suddenly my account has been locked.

Oh well, **** 'em.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 31, 2005, 11:56 AM
This is rich (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1106787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1106787)

What a silly way to handle things.  I can only hope those guys aren't parents, because their kids are going to grow up and be pretty darn weird.  I'm sorry, but a feedback and suggestion forum needs discussion, not a single opinion on what constitutes a valid answer. ::) 

I really don't spend much time there and I admit I followed this thread, but never really went to see the hoopla.  It's unfortunate I did, it reminds me why I visit only the vintage and BST sections over there.  Yikes. 

Has ruling with an iron fist ever proven productive (or constructive, for that matter) in history?  I suppose for a short period of time, but all Empires run that way crumble in time.  I guess it's fairly critical right now to maintain order though, this may be the last, big run at bringing in corporate dollars.  If Scott's assessment is correct, and I suspect it is at least to a certain degree, RS will probably shut it's doors within a year simply because of lost financial opportunities.  This is the last movie, so you gotta make what you can while you can.  Fans are fickle and clearly the hardcore, long term fans are not terribly important.  More malleable minds bring in more dollars, one would suppose.

tick.....tick.....tick....
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 31, 2005, 12:31 PM
Morgbug-

I stated the samething over at GH Star wars will never be hotter than it is right now and continue for about 6 months after the releaase of the film. Slowly the influx of newbies to fansites will die and those of us who are in it for the long haul will still  remain. I find it strange the some how  a collective of fans get's this notion yet a "Webmaster" of a uh hum, "Fan Based" site doesn't get it . I've worked next to him at toyfairs and I've even jumped news  on him when I was working for CSW. He's a turd in a punch bowl. How bad do you want that punch. I'll pass.  I can tell You Steve(sir) is a lot nicer than he is. But I digress I've said this for years about Phillip I think it just my time to sit back and enjoy what's unraveling. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 31, 2005, 12:32 PM
Sorry to hear you got banned, Matt. If you really had your account locked for something you said over here, that's pretty weird.  I mean, if someone from RS is actually reading this stuff and taking it seriously enough to ban you over there for it.....why not simply reply to the topic and explain the situation?

Peronally, I still don't think this mail was NEARLY big enough a deal for the ****storm that followed it.  The mail didn't  even bother me.....and actually, I still don't get why people are so bent out of shape about it.

But Yeah, Philip's "Get a life" thing was really uncalled for, and yeah, and apology to those of you he offended would be nice.   I know I've said some things over there I've apologized for over the years.

Still, I can't join the mini-mutiny going on. I still like RS too much to quit just because some of my fellow collectors did too.   I simply wish you good luck over here, and I'll check up on you in the Junkyard from now on!~

 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 31, 2005, 12:56 PM
Joshee
THink about your own circumstance for a moment. If you are like me in the least you become concerned who is doing what with your personal information. I have emailed phillip with my real email account before and I prefer not to have that publicized. I'm concerned for Rob(KBZ) because it's a complete infringement of his rights.  The email was never for public consumption and subsequent sold as such. This is  more relevant to  how reckless the act was and the subsequent reaction afterwards. It's a completely unethical busines practice . As a business owner I would never do that to my customer base I have even strickter laws governing  me because I have to abide by the HIPAA agreement.   Phillip completly  misread his target market...it should cost him something after all he received financial gain from it.

Next it's reckless because look at how much bandwidth and time his actions have consumed  on other websites simply because he won't respond or let people react at his own website. His action have cost other people time and money. He should be held accountable. Am I biased, yes I am, is it because of my own personal expereinces, you betcha.   


Your right though some of the subcultures like the vintage section is an excellent community and it ashame it has to be tied to that site.
Title: Banned from Rebelscum?
Post by: CHEWIE on March 31, 2005, 12:56 PM
I think I got banned from them, and I don't know why.  When I click on the forums, I get the following message now -

Your account has been banned or locked jedidefender.com

Has anyone experienced a similar problem?  I would have thought that if I did something there to make someone mad, I would have at least recived a warning...

Don't know what to do... I love it here and there too, I just can't believe I would get banned from there...

If anyone sees anything posted in the forums there with a mod mad at me, please let me know so I will know who locked me from there!

Thank you!!

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 31, 2005, 01:07 PM
So now they are banning JD members and staff members for no reason?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2005, 01:14 PM
So now they are banning JD members and staff members for no reason?

Yes, it would appear that it's house cleaning time over at RS and many who have preached the word of JD are being shown the door - CHEWIE, J-MAC, jokabofe, etc...

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 31, 2005, 01:16 PM
Quote
Joshee
THink about your own circumstance for a moment. If you are like me in the least you become concerned who is doing what with your personal information. I have emailed phillip with my real email account before and I prefer not to have that publicized. I'm concerned for Rob(KBZ) because it's a complete infringement of his rights.  The email was never for public consumption and subsequent sold as such

I am thinking about my own circumstance. I got the email too. Now granted, I only received it at one address (even though I've emailed Philip from just about every address I've got over the years)....but the fact that I got some spam does not really bother me.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 01:20 PM
CHEWIE, you got banned because of your signature, no doubt.

You had jedidefender.com in your sig, and for them, that just wont do.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 01:30 PM
Yep.  The true reasons behind Philip's madness are becoming all too apparent now.  This has NOTHING to do with breaking any of their forum rules, but has everything to do with his disdain over JediDefender here.  That's what it all boils down to.

For him to summarily ban any folks affiliated with JD for no valid reason whatsoever is absolutely insane.  Banning Dave/jokabofe who hadn't made a peep over there for quite a while?  At least Dave's on staff here, but banning Justin/CHEWIE too, 'cause he had a JD link in his sig (which has been there for quite some time mind you), that's just appalling.

I'd love to see who else is on the chopping block now.  I've seen JD in a number of sigs and posts over there, so I suppose any one of those folks have the strong potential to get the boot as well.

Hmm...  I wonder if Philip's going to start banning any of the GH guys too, just because.  Somehow I doubt that one though, as they've got a bit lower profile around RS than we do these days.

So, does this mean that Philip will now be adding into his completely phony Forum Rules that any mention of or link to JediDefender constitutes a full ban (not just a suspension and warning).  He sure better be...

Damned idiotic old man.  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 01:32 PM
CHEWIE, you got banned because of your signature, no doubt.

The question is, did Justin ever even get a warning about this, or did anyone ever just politely ask him to remove his signature link?  Or was it just another insta-ban, with no explanation whatsoever?

Totally ****** up if Justin was never even given a chance.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 01:44 PM
I think if Justin did get a warning, he would have complied. He's on of the coolest laid back guys around.

This sucks major dick. >:(

I do hope I meet dear old Phil because I will tell him what I think of him, no matter how many 501st guys are with him as "security". (No hate towards the 501st.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 01:48 PM
Sheesh - talk about thin ice....

No warning, and because of a months old link that suddenly isn't appreciated?

We're hitting new lows every day it would seem.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 01:59 PM
Yep.  The true reasons behind Philip's madness are becoming all too apparent now.  This has NOTHING to do with breaking any of their forum rules, but has everything to do with his disdain over JediDefender here.  That's what it all boils down to.

For him to summarily ban any folks affiliated with JD for no valid reason whatsoever is absolutely insane.  Banning Dave/jokabofe who hadn't made a peep over there for quite a while?  At least Dave's on staff here, but banning Justin/CHEWIE too, 'cause he had a JD link in his sig (which has been there for quite some time mind you), that's just appalling.

I'd love to see who else is on the chopping block now.  I've seen JD in a number of sigs and posts over there, so I suppose any one of those folks have the strong potential to get the boot as well.

Hmm...  I wonder if Philip's going to start banning any of the GH guys too, just because.  Somehow I doubt that one though, as they've got a bit lower profile around RS than we do these days.

So, does this mean that Philip will now be adding into his completely phony Forum Rules that any mention of or link to JediDefender constitutes a full ban (not just a suspension and warning).  He sure better be...

Damned idiotic old man.  ::)


He banned CHEWIE?? What the ****?1? I think Philip has officially lost it. CHEWIE has never done anything to deserve that. I am about ready to make a full time move here, I'm really sick of all the crap going on there recently, and all the new members who are either illiterate red-necks, or 6 year olds.

I heard Justin just left and told them to remove him, he wasn't banned.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 02:04 PM
Feel free to make the jump. 8)

I find this absolutley retarded to no end.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: SilverZ on March 31, 2005, 02:06 PM
I don't have a lot to say about RS, having avoided posting there since late '02, but none of what is going on surprises me in the least. The staff and administration behavior is right on-par with the maturity level of most of the conversation that takes place in their forums. I don't think it should shock anyone that they behave childishly and even spiteful when confronted with actual problems.

It’s very unfortunate since there are valuable sections and content there, and the good guys that post with intelligent, valuable information get lost in countless posts with no substance, maturity, or direction. I can’t get over the fact that they’ve chosen to drive the site’s culture towards the lowest common denominator and shown absolute contempt towards its many good contributers on the boards.

Regarding the initial TRU spam email, I wasn’t bothered either, since it hit two of my AOL accounts, which are nothing but spam collectors anyway. No big deal. However – if it had hit a work address I would be extremely upset, as it would have set off alarm bells like crazy. The last thing I’d want is attention being drawn to my personal interests or it be eluded to that I’m focusing on those during work, or associating the company’s name with potential spam lists.

My last company had RS blocked anyway, most likely being caught in a filter as “Rebels ***”.

- J
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 02:10 PM
I heard Justin just left and told them to remove him, he wasn't banned.

SLC, Justin = CHEWIE.  Were you referring to the other Justin (JediKnight760071)?

'Cause Justin/CHEWIE said (above) that he very much was surprised to open their forum only to find out he'd been inexplicably banned.  He definitely didn't just leave of his own accord...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 31, 2005, 02:12 PM
Quote
I do hope I meet dear old Phil because I will tell him what I think of him, no matter how many 501st guys are with him as "security". (No hate towards the 501st.

Yeah. Be nice to the 501st. While I'm not "working" this show (I can't see spending hundreds of dollars to travel to Indianapolis to get in my armor and pull badge checking duty).....I do respect all the guys who are spending most of their time at the Con working.  Me, I prefer to enjoy the con, and when I'm running around in my armor it'll be "off the clock"

I'll never understand the guys that travel all the way there to do the equivalent of a security guard's job, but I think those are some devoted guys.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 02:14 PM
Hey, I'm not hating on the 501st at all, I just find it rediculous that they are on security duty. It's just a bit much. That still won't stop me from getting my photo taken with them, if I can.  8)

If I had the extra cash, no doubt I'd be in their ranks, but not as security.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 02:17 PM
I heard Justin just left and told them to remove him, he wasn't banned.

SLC, Justin = CHEWIE.  Were you referring to the other Justin (JediKnight760071)?

'Cause Justin/CHEWIE said (above) that he very much was surprised to open their forum only to find out he'd been inexplicably banned.  He definitely didn't just leave of his own accord...

Ohhh... I thought  you were talking about the other Justin as in JK760071. Casue he left by himself. I am really pissed that they did that to CHEWIE, I put a JD link in my sig over there in his honor.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 31, 2005, 02:23 PM
Guys I don't what to tell ya with this whole mess. I might even get reprimanded or given the boot flat outright, but I gotta say if you hadn't done anything over there you shouldn't haven been banned. JediMac, you've been one of the cooler guys and have always had a kind word. So your presence over there, no tmatter how small it was, will be missed.

Oh and it's about having a JD e-mail listed that he'll ban ya!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 31, 2005, 02:27 PM
Lady Jaye, my respect for you has just grown a million-fold.  To have the guts to speak honestly here, well that gets you a thumbs up in my books (for what its worth).
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on March 31, 2005, 02:28 PM
Hi Josh,

In regards to your statement that the TRU spam wasn't a big deal - you're right to a certain extent.

I have NEVER given RS my work email addy and sure as ****, I got that stupid TRU email.  The only time I EVER sent it was in a PM to Zod.

Are the PM's monitored?  I mean, can a mod or administrator read them if he/she really wanted to?  I'm thinking so.

And of course, I may be mistaken, but I can't recall signing up for a contest (when was the last time RS ever GAVE anything away?  And my sign up email is some POS hotmail account which I don't give a **** about in regards to spam...

BTW, if there is only one reason to come over here to JD, it's the ability to curse when you feel it's necessary!!   :P ;D :D ;) :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on March 31, 2005, 02:31 PM
Ahhh, my fellow comrades all together...Cable, Zod and the guy that can't spell.   :P

I, too, received that TRU email at work and I am still wondering how the hell that thing got through our spamware and how RS even got it!!

I tell ya, that Wise character is making money hand over fist off of us - he's whoring us out!!

 8)

Dude! Glad to see you here!
I went by Balki at RS until recently. Spuffy started up a Iowa finds thread, so please, join us!  :)

HMI!  Glad to see you kept your "original" user name over here!  I've always liked it!  You can bet I'll be posting in the Iowa Finds thread - no wonder I have not seen Spuffy over at RS - he's posting his finds here!!

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 02:32 PM
BTW, if there is only one reason to come over here to JD, it's the ability to curse when you feel it's necessary!!   :P ;D :D ;) :)

Indeed.  One of the benefits of hangin' out with the grown ups for a change.  I was wondering when some of you newer folks would catch on to that fun little benefit...  ;)

For those that don't know, there's a language filter on/off checkbox somewhere in your profile, so you can adjust whether you want to see some of our dirty words here, or not...

We generally keep the profanity within reason though, of course.  No two page long profanity laced diatribes please.  Unless you're a staff member here, in which you're granted that additional privelege.  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 02:38 PM
Guys I don't what to tell ya with this whole mess. I might even get reprimanded or given the boot flat outright, but I gotta say if you hadn't done anything over there you shouldn't haven been banned. JediMac, you've been one of the cooler guys and have always had a kind word. So your presence over there, no tmatter how small it was, will be missed.

Oh and it's about having a JD e-mail listed that he'll ban ya!!

Thank ya' LJ.  Though I fear you may have just put yourself in harm's way by making that comment, but like Jess just said - I'm impressed with your braveness.

CHEWIE doesn't have the JD e-mail though, just the sig.  Only the staff here has JD e-mail accounts, and not all of us even use them at RS.  I just had my AOL addy there in my profile.  I'm pretty sure it's anything remotely related to JD that's grounds for dismissal there at this point.  I don't think Philip likes us too much over here for some reason...  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 31, 2005, 02:56 PM
Wise doesn't like JD.com because he perceives you guys (and I guess the collective "us" of the forums) as a threat.  He has the mentality of an abusive spouse toward the people who post there (as in, "I'll do whatever the hell I want and if you don't like it you can leave.  But you won't leave because you love me.") and seems to be inherently spiteful toward the rest of the SW collecting community in general.  JD has just become the target of his impotent wrath because you/we are the most visible dissent against his reign as "king of the SW fansites."

I hate to break it to you, Wise, but TFN is a joke.  TFN is a punchline amongst every other SW fansite, and nobody has forgotten your little TFN forum stunts from last fall.  What started as a decent collecting site at RS has turned into a advertisement-laden speculation fest where the first priority is to fulfill the wishes of the sponsors.  He most likely views the people who visit the site with utter contempt, and he views himself as some sort of godlike figure. 

Wise is not a fan of SW: he is an opportunist.  He has stated as much in articles where he cries about not being allowed greater access to the ROTS set and information, contrasting it with TheOneRing.net's access to the LOTR films, and stating (in reference to being a SW fan who isn't treated like the deity he thinks he is) that he "backed the wrong franchise."  In other words, he's not a fan of the films or the toys anymore; he's a fan of himself and feels that he is more important than anyone else out there in the fan community and that he should be treated as such.

And as for Wise who may be secretly reading this forum (and this very post), I can only say this: you work on a website.  You do not work on finding cures for cancer or AIDS.  You do not save starving children.  You do not work for social change and (on a much smaller level) you do not give anything back to the fan community.  You work on a website which succeeded because of the combined efforts of a lot of different people and not just because of Philip Wise.  You are no more important than I am, or than anyone else in this fan community.

In fact, if you want to get right down to it, you're probably less important and deserving of being ignored than anyone else in the fan community because your modus operandi is to make a buck off the fan community you feel you are the paramour of and you have given nothing back to it.  People like those who run JD.com, GH.com, Yakface, the Jawa, or whatever do this because they love the films and they get very little fringe benefits from doing so.  You do it so your wallet can get a little bit fatter off the work of others.  So look in the mirror and congratulate yourself, Mr. Wise, for selling out the fan community you presume to represent.

On a semi-related note, can someone do a Photoshop of the Frank Zappa and MOI album cover "We're Only In It For the Money" with Wise and other pertinent RS.com members' heads posted on it?  That would be nice to see.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 03:11 PM
He's banning all of the older members. Bannin CHEWIE is just ridiculous. >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 03:28 PM
Well, I did it. I finally cut my ties with RS. It's JD full time for me now. And FFURG too.

Philip can suck my dick, I'm done with him and his site forever.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 31, 2005, 03:34 PM
Ruiner asked:

Quote
Are the PM's monitored?  I mean, can a mod or administrator read them if he/she really wanted to?  I'm thinking so.

No, they can't.  At least not when I was a moderator.  I also run a set of boards for my local 501st group and that's a right I don't have there.

PM is PM.
  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2005, 03:50 PM
Nataku = Banned

At least I got a "we're closing your account soon" courtesy PM so I could finish up a few trades I was working on...

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 31, 2005, 03:54 PM
 ::)

You got banned?  Matt I can understand, but you?   ;D

I think I have a grand total of about 15 posts over there, I wonder if I'm on the **** list too.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 31, 2005, 03:56 PM
Wow...so because you work for JD you've been shown the door

This, this is just amazing.  So you can't talk about what a ****** site Rebelscum has become anywhere?  

"The more you tighten your grip, Wise, the more posters will slip through your fingers."

Oh, P Wise, btw, we have more than enough hard evidence to show your posting has declined over 10% since last year, while JediDefender has risen 20%, so keep up the great work!!!!! :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2005, 04:02 PM
Wow...so because you work for JD you've been shown the door

Yes, the PM that I received inferred that because I am JD Staff I was no longer welcome, simple as that.

I won't lose any sleep over it though, that's for sure...

Jeff

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 04:05 PM
Ruiner asked:

Quote
Are the PM's monitored?  I mean, can a mod or administrator read them if he/she really wanted to?  I'm thinking so.

No, they can't.  At least not when I was a moderator.  I also run a set of boards for my local 501st group and that's a right I don't have there.

PM is PM.
  ;D
Wrong. I had admin access on a forum, which included access to everyones' PMs. I wouldn't trust sensitive info to the PM system on ANY website.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 04:07 PM
A member over at RS Matkatmandu or something started a thread claiming he got lava vader's early and was going to sell it on ebay to pay for MM. JediMac and I as well as a couple other guys started calling him a scalper (rightfully so I might add) and he got all pissy. He reported Mac (and maybe some others) to Philip and claimed the JD guys were "a dime a dozen" and were all coming after him, I think he may have asked for your banning. He told me that Philip told him only JD staff would be banned, so apparently this has been in the works for a few days. Philip apparently thinks everyone who has an RS acount and a JD account is staff here so he went ban happy. >:( ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 31, 2005, 04:10 PM
So can we get a tally of who's been banned over this?

banned

JediMAC
Nataku
jokabofe
CHEWIE

Asked to be deleted:

Darth Kenobi
Famine
Jediknight760071

Left on their own:

Sith Lord Chaos
ruiner

Good PR moves all around, especially with C3 and Midnight Madness and Episode III Coming out.  I wonder what TRU and Lucasfilm will think about all of this?  I wouldn't be too happy one of my promoters and business partners treats their customers like ****.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 04:12 PM
i LEFT OWN MY OWN BUT i'M PROBABLY GOING TO GET ABNNED OR DELETED.

Or I'm going to hit caps lock and not notice until I'm done typing. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 04:16 PM
Dustinme:"Philakin, whats wrong?"

Philakin:"I banned them. I banned them all."

Dustinme:"Oh, Phil!"

Philakin:"And not just the JDers, but the veterans, and useful members too. They're losers and I banned them like losers!"

Jesus.

Oh, and I wasn't deleted, oh no, I was banned, not delted per my request, says the website.

Also, didn't Phil comment that anyone who buys more than one figure to help out another member is a scalper? But it's fine and flippin' dandy to get an exclusive early and then list it on ebay and charge rediculous prices for it?

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on March 31, 2005, 04:17 PM
For anyone wondering, I did not get a warning, just a straight up ban.  

Wow, this is unreal.  So many good people getting kicked out of there without a good reason.

To me this is very sad.  There is no reason to divide the Star Wars community like this.

I feel like someone just kicked me in the stomach.

 :(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Phrubruh on March 31, 2005, 04:18 PM
Revolution? You guys make an compelling case. I may just have to start posting over here more often.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 31, 2005, 04:22 PM
Another thought I've been having is this smacks of pre Episode I when SSG was having ISE problems out the ass.  SSG was THE site on the net at the time and when their forums turned to absolute garbage people left in a mass exodus for the forums that are now Rebelscums

I just wish there was a time machine to turn back the clock and knock some sense into Sullenger circa 2002 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 31, 2005, 04:24 PM
Can you guys switch my tag to staff member just to see if I get banned? ;)

I think a key here will be to find out what happens to Dale.  Dale's a pretty straight up guy, hasn't said much, if anything, in this thread.  Better, he's a pretty damn knowledgeable guy with respect to vintage stuff, possibly in that upper echelon of vinty folks, primarily hanging out at RS.  

While I agree that banning anyone with associations to JD is absurd, it would be pretty much a travesty for Dale and a serious blow as well if that happens to his personal activities.  Hopefully that won't happen, for Dale's sake.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 31, 2005, 04:25 PM
I can't believe all this.  It's like there was a meeting where the Corleone's decided to wipe out the heads of the five families ;D.  Chewie, I'm especially shocked about your case.  You're about the nicest guy posting over there, as was JediMac and many others.  While I haven't been banned, my Movie thread was locked after a couple thousand posts and four versions, for no reason at all.  I plan to hang out here more, and I'm sorry that it had to be because of RS changes ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 31, 2005, 04:27 PM
Scott those were the good ole'days.  The days of Tammy and  and of course E-z Cheese. I miss forum members sliding down stars in carbords boxes and of course Dennis the phantom menacne and his twelve episode one yoda's debacle. Oh how I miss captain panaka I miss having to moderate the forums he posted in and how he would wax poetic about star wars .....panaka where are  you?  

Chewie-
 You shouldn't feel kicked in the stomach you should actually feel like Phillip did you a favor. I'm sure he sees it that way. He's our moral entreprenuer after all.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 31, 2005, 04:33 PM
As dorky as it sounds, I have to say it...

I've always looked at Phil as one of those chubby Toydarian politicians in the Galactic Senate - he's a straight-up businessman, a greedy, stubborn, selfish, businessman.

Now I see him differently. Now I see him as something of an angry, tyranical Sith Lord, trying his damnedest to purge the community of the Jedi.


I hate that some of you guys have been banned/deleted simply because of your affiliation with this website - but truthfully, it's something I've seen as an inevitability.

Just know that being banned from Rebelscum is far from a blemish on your "image" in this community. Not in my opinion. Instead, it's more like a badge of honor, if you ask me.

Welcome to the club.

 ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Phrubruh on March 31, 2005, 04:36 PM
I'm  with you Matt and Chewie. I'm going to start posting my customs here and ffurg instead of rebelscum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 04:38 PM
So can we get a tally of who's been banned over this?

banned

JediMAC
Nataku
jokabofe
CHEWIE

Asked to be deleted:

Darth Kenobi
Famine
Jediknight760071

Left on their own:

Sith Lord Chaos
ruiner

You should add yourself to that list as well Scott, since you were technically the first casualty in this supposed site war that Philip apparently thinks is going on...

Would someone who still has an account at RS kindly reply to this stupid scalping jackass (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107620&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107620) and tell him, Matkatnadam, that my banning had absolutely nothing to do with calling him out as a scalper, and everything to do with me being a staff member here at JD, and for talking **** about RS, Philip, and Dustin over here at JD?  Half their board was yelling at him for scalping, and no one else was banned over the matter.

Since I'm rather annoyed with Philip's bull**** attitude right now, what I can't believe, is that after I forwarded most of Matkatnadam's PMs to Philip (and Dustin) the other day, so he could see the disgusting **** he was flooding my inbox with, Philip's response was that he could care less, very akin to his "Get a life" comment to his members the other day.  Here's one sterling example of what Matkatnadam sent me, regarding me and the rest of the JD'ers, that Philip (and Dustin) completely condoned:

Quote
I call you and your friends **** because that's about the maturity level that I find you on.  I'm far too mature to engage in a battle of the wits "my dad can beat up your dad" game with a 12-year old in a 34 year old body.  My 2 year old is far more grownup than you are, and he still pees in the bathtub.  Calling you a *** seems to be the only thing you respond to so maybe it's necessary.

Yeah, that's mature stuff from Matkatnadam there alright.  I have about 10 more that are quite similar to that one too, all of which Philip was in complete and total support of.  I'm pretty sure there's some stuff in their forum rules about crap like this, not that they care at all...  ::)

I can't for the life of me figure out why there's still adult members in the collecting community who would actually want to hang out over at RS (speaking primarily of the modern figure and Wuher's boards here).  Yeah, yeah - I know - there's a billion posts to read there.  Just sad that quantity and total zoo-like insanity still matters more to some people than quality, respect, and friendships...  :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 04:40 PM
Way to be a jerk that guy is.

Some one find out if he's going to C3. He's another person I'd like to tell what I think of them.

I still can't belive that Justin got nixed.

That's just not cool.
 :(
Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 04:47 PM
You damn kids get everything handed to you. I earned my banning calling someone a piece of ****.  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 04:51 PM
You damn kids get everything handed to you. I earned my banning calling someone a piece of ****.  :P


I told Philip to blow me in a post over somewhere over there, I think I beat you. ;) :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 04:56 PM
Let's not turn this thread into a "Mines bigger than yours" contest between members.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Vator on March 31, 2005, 04:57 PM
Well mine is bigger than yours.


We are talking about hair right?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 04:57 PM
Quote
I call you and your friends **** because that's about the maturity level that I find you on.  I'm far too mature to engage in a battle of the wits "my dad can beat up your dad" game with a 12-year old in a 34 year old body.  My 2 year old is far more grownup than you are, and he still pees in the bathtub.  Calling you a *** seems to be the only thing you respond to so maybe it's necessary.


Hey wait a minute....

I still pee in the bathtub...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 04:57 PM
Let's not turn this thread into a "Mines bigger than yours" contest between members.

Kevin
"Member", I get it... :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 04:58 PM
Let's make sure that quote gets credited to GNT - and all take a second to remember the time when I had it as a sig and Phillip made me remove it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Phrubruh on March 31, 2005, 05:02 PM
Sith_prop_lord, your thread over at the RS Customs about Chewie leaving has disappeared.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on March 31, 2005, 05:06 PM
Good one Zod!   ;D

On a serious note, I thought PW was a cool guy, I mean he had the SW collector community monopoly (in my eyes).

Master Replicas is prominent now in the Props section and I'm pretty sure the Big H reads the forum a lot.

On top of that, he has a license, owns TFN and probably charges a pretty hefty price for advertisment space.

What's my point, you're asking?  Keep the clientle happy - the forum members that is.  You know, the people who click on your sponsor links?!  

Admit you were wrong in sending out that mass TRU email, apologize; be a man and admit your mistakes.  It's far worse to tell your members that support your site to "get a life" and if you don't like it, ask for banishment.

That's now how I would run a business; but hey, that's just me.  

Word spreads quick in the SW community - PW just lit the match on a dry field of brush....
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 05:11 PM
So can we get a tally of who's been banned over this?

banned

JediMAC
Nataku
jokabofe
CHEWIE

Asked to be deleted:

Darth Kenobi
Famine
Jediknight760071

Left on their own:

Sith Lord Chaos
ruiner

Good PR moves all around, especially with C3 and Midnight Madness and Episode III Coming out.  I wonder what TRU and Lucasfilm will think about all of this?  I wouldn't be too happy one of my promoters and business partners treats their customers like ****.

Funny thing is I still have't been remove but now I will probally get myself ban for my new name and other changes I made in the profile.  Darth Kenobi is dead.
Opps my new user name was denied... Jedidefender.

Either I was just banned or Phillip close deleted my account.  I think I was ban through. 

I think this is a new record for JD history with users online.  Someone should take a screen cap of it. 

Edit 4: I also would like to thank LJ and say that my respect for you have grown since you are the only Rebelscum staffer here who actually talks here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 31, 2005, 05:19 PM
Gundam started this thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107972&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107972) at RS just a few moments ago.  Hopefully it won't get deleted, but instead calmly answered by Philip and maybe this whole stupidity can be laid to rest.

"Ok, don't kill me if this shoul dnot be talked about but what happened to the JediDefender link?

Part of my daily routine is to come to 'scum....click on LINKS and from there I go to the sites I normaly check for news.

Today I noticed no Jedi Defender?

Did the big wigs at the sites have a fight and are not talking anymore?

I hope this topic is not deleted or locked....things like this shoul dbe talked about in the open....it seems sometimes things like this are huge behind the scenes but never talked about like this.... "


Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 05:21 PM
Sith_prop_lord, your thread over at the RS Customs about Chewie leaving has disappeared.


Actually it Sith Lord Chaos..... ;) :P  But close enoguh.

Yeah my account is now gone too. I am officailly banned.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Phrubruh on March 31, 2005, 05:23 PM
Sorry. I get you confused with your twin brother. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 05:27 PM
Why won't GNT ask to be deleted? Oh wait, those 50,000 posts are his life...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 31, 2005, 05:29 PM
Quote
I can't for the life of me figure out why there's still adult members in the collecting community who would actually want to hang out over at RS (speaking primarily of the modern figure and Wuher's boards here).  Yeah, yeah - I know - there's a billion posts to read there.  Just sad that quantity and total zoo-like insanity still matters more to some people than quality, respect, and friendships...  


Since I seem to be the only one reading this Rebelscum hatefest that could be described by the above paragaph, I will reply.  

Aside from what I've already said I like about Rebelscum (and don't need to repeat for the umpteenth time) I don't think that quitting a site YOU enjoy just because your friend is getting the royal screwjob from them is the right thing to do.

Some analogies to support this:

1. Ever worked somewhere where a friend quits or gets fired?  There's always that lunch afterwards where the inevitable "Why don't we all f'ing quit?" conversation comes up.   Is that really ever a good idea?

2.  Ever drive the same car as a friend (Or own the same electronics device) as them?  Example:  My friend has a PS2 that died on him twice, so he swore off Sony and sold everything he owned from them.  Should I follow suit, even though I've never had a problem playing with my PS2?

3.  Third and most applicable....ever been friends with someone that another one of your friends has had a falling out with?  Or maybe you're friends with the person that becomes their ex?  It's a real tough position to be in when they're talking all this crap about a person you are still friendly with.....who you haven't had any problems with.  But you walk the line and make it work, because you have no reason to hate that person too, just because your friend does.


Aside from the occasional slap on the wrist for some over the top comments (which I'm sure I deserved for one reason or another)....in my several years on Rebelscum, no one on the staff has ever been a jerk to me personally.  

I've always had great collecting discussions there, fun chats in Wuhers and found great deals in the classifieds (a lot of those deals with longtime JD members as well).

Another HUGE factor is I have met some buddies in the Seattle collecting scene I never would have met if it weren't for RS.  JD simply cannot touch these experiences for me. Not by a longshot.

Sure I like a lot of you guys over here.  I stop by whenever there's a hot topic (like this one) going on, and I stop by occasionally even when there's not.  I can't wait to hang out at C3 with a few of you to BS around or just go party after hours in the real world.

But all that aside....IMHO, Rebelscum is still the best site on the net for Collecting.  I've always been willing to say that hopefully maybe someday JD will be that site, but today is not that day.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on March 31, 2005, 05:30 PM
Thanks to everyone here who has stuck up for me.  I do appreciate it.

And thanks for this site being here.  I really am thankful.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 05:32 PM
Gundam started this thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107972&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107972) at RS just a few moments ago.  Hopefully it won't get deleted, but instead calmly answered by Philip and maybe this whole stupidity can be laid to rest.

"Ok, don't kill me if this shoul dnot be talked about but what happened to the JediDefender link?

Part of my daily routine is to come to 'scum....click on LINKS and from there I go to the sites I normaly check for news.

Today I noticed no Jedi Defender?

Did the big wigs at the sites have a fight and are not talking anymore?

I hope this topic is not deleted or locked....things like this shoul dbe talked about in the open....it seems sometimes things like this are huge behind the scenes but never talked about like this.... "




The Emperor Speaks:
Quote
The link was removed today, as well as all Jedi Defender staff were advised they could no longer use the Rebelscum forum.

This was done after constant and repeated use of our forum by some of their staff to bash Rebelscum.
Which isn't very nice, nor acceptable.

They have their own forum to do this on if they see fit.

I consider Rebelscum to be a place where friends of ours can communicate. Some of these people have abused this consideration in a manner we can no longer allow.

This is all that will be said on the subject because it doesn't deserve conversation.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on March 31, 2005, 05:34 PM
Wait, we NEVER used their forum to bash them. We used our forum. I can only think of Scott's post padding thing, but that was two years ago.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 05:37 PM
Wait, we NEVER used their forum to bash them. We used our forum. I can only think of Scott's post padding thing, but that was two years ago.

Maybe it was my Get a life thread that he was refering to.  Its funny when I have no ties to JD except I post here but everyone here gets banned for this.   I guess the guys at GH but watch out too since I post there too, Phil care to ban the staff there too?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 31, 2005, 05:44 PM
Man, looks like Philip and the Comittee of Public Safety are really cleaning that place out....

Too bad. Sorry you guys who didn't take part in the Spam issue got banned for it. :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 05:50 PM
I still can't believe everyone got the axe, why not only the people who supposedly broke a rule? Since when is being a member of any other forum a banible offense?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 05:55 PM
Since Philip decided he was king.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 31, 2005, 06:02 PM
Funny, Dave never posted in this thread nor over there regarding this issue.  Banning him is clearly a guilt by association thing. 

Ergo...
Quote
This was done after constant and repeated use of our forum by some of their staff to bash Rebelscum.
Which isn't very nice, nor acceptable.

This is a lie.  Or at least you need to seriously view the world through some funky colored glasses to see the truth here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Logray2776 on March 31, 2005, 06:03 PM
Ill say it again, I am so glad that i have asked for my account to be removed, just as well I had a JD signature, so it was soon to happen.


   Good Riddance I Say


                       Claude
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 06:05 PM
Amazing. KBZ, any answer on why your email was used?

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 06:10 PM
Quote
The link was removed today, as well as all Jedi Defender staff were advised they could no longer use the Rebelscum forum.

This was done after constant and repeated use of our forum by some of their staff to bash Rebelscum.
Which isn't very nice, nor acceptable.

They have their own forum to do this on if they see fit.

I consider Rebelscum to be a place where friends of ours can communicate. Some of these people have abused this consideration in a manner we can no longer allow.

This is all that will be said on the subject because it doesn't deserve conversation.

You know what, this response from Philip is complete and total bull****.  He banned jokabofe today there, and Dave hasn't even participated at RS in ages, let alone said anything bad about RS there.

He banned Nataku today, and similarly Jeff hasn't said anything bad about RS at RS.

He banned CHEWIE today, who's not even a staff member here for Christ's sake, and to my knowledge hasn't said anything bad about RS anywhere, though he had a JD link in his sig (but NOT a JD e-mail account).

And I was banned, and the only place I've said something bad about RS lately at RS is in that Spam thread that Jason posted there a few days ago.  That was pretty much it.  Considering there were about 50 people in that thread expressing their displeasure with Philip at the time, I hardly think my one or two comments in it warranted any special treatment.

Granted, I did tell Jimbo to shut the hell up and stop flaming everyone over there in two posts, and then I lambasted that homo-phobe scalper Matkatnadam over his scalping of the Lava Vader.  But again, a large number of other people did the same thing to both of those clowns.

So the bottom line is that Philip's flat out LYING over there about the reason for these bans.  We're not stupid enough to talk **** about Rebelscum AT Rebelscum (since Philip doesn't allow it, and we have more tact than that usually).  As everyone knows, we do pretty much all of our RS bashing over here, along with many other RS members who can't speak their mind over there.

So Philip and Dustin can keep lying all they want to everyone about the reason for the bans.  It had nothing to do with me fighting with Katmandu and Jimbo, and it had nothing to do with any of us talking **** about RS at RS.  It does however have everything to do with Philip's burning hatred of JediDefender, since he keeps losing most of his best members to us, and because this is the place where everyone discusses the truth about his site, and his disgustingly disrespectful attitude towards his members, who are nothing more than a meal ticket to him now.

It's disgusting really.

As for Jimbo suggesting he hasn't given me a second thought since we had to ban him from JD here long ago, that's absolutely laughable.  He's posted about me incessantly at sites like The Jawa and Trade Fed, where I wasn't even a member.  He even thanked me personally in his main page news post at Trade Fed (after we hadn't even corresponded in months), when he returned to that site since he was banned from all the rest at the time.  True, I do love popping into RS and putting that ******* troll in his place from time to time, since no one else there will, but that's about the extent of it.  It's often quite entertaining to check in on him and see how many people he's flamed the **** out of on any given day at RS.

He's just fortunate that Philip Wise made some bizarre "special arrangement" with him to allow him back into Rebelscum, after he'd already been banned from there at least twice. What's really strange, is that the first of Jimmy_'s bannings was because he was constantly berating Philip all over the forums there.  Now the two are best of friends, and Philip protects him at all costs.  Go figure...   ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 06:15 PM
He's just fortunate that Philip Wise made some bizarre "special arrangement" with him to allow him back into Rebelscum, after he'd already been banned from there at least twice. What's really strange, is that the first of Jimmy_'s bannings was because he was constantly berating Philip all over the forums there.  Now the two are best of friends, and Philip protects him at all costs.  Go figure...   ???

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on March 31, 2005, 06:21 PM
I sent an email right after it happened to Dustin, and then Philip emailed me about it.  

I have just been reinstated, but still feel like this is a stain on the collecting community as so many people got the axe there that it just isn't funny.  And some people asked to be removed too.

There are some things that go on there that I don't like, so from now on the only posting I will probably do there will be in the customs and the trades section.  There are some good members there and I don't want to lose touch with them (but it seems like quite a few have made the switch to here).  I personally don't have a problem with anyone there, but the whole witch-hunt thing just makes me sick and leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.

That being said, instead of 10% of my posts going here and 90% there, it will probably switch to 90% being here.  You guys are the best and I couldn't imagine not being part of the community here.

I know, some people will ask "Why would you even want to be reinstated after that????"  Only because there are some members there that I do like a lot; and I don't want to give up my friendship with them because of this - and mostly because I enjoy talking about customs over there.  I love it here even more, but I do wish there was some more traffic in our customs section.  

Trust me though, this is now my true home.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 06:24 PM
Amazing. KBZ, any answer on why your email was used?

Kevin

After waiting a little over a day with no response to the email, I sent a PM asking the question again.

I got a reply ironically saying that he didn't get my first email because his Spam filter probably caught it (hilarious in a few ways).  He asked which email address was the one in question.  I wrote him back with it and haven't heard anything else.  I'm assuming it's been removed - but I don't know one way or the other.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 06:25 PM
I sent an email right after it happened to Dustin, and then Philip emailed me about it.  

I have just been reinstated, but still feel like this is a stain on the collecting community as so many people got the axe there that it just isn't funny.  And some people asked to be removed too.

There are some things that go on there that I don't like, so from now on the only posting I will probably do there will be in the customs and the trades section.  There are some good members there and I don't want to lose touch with them (but it seems like quite a few have made the switch to here).  I personally don't have a problem with anyone there, but the whole witch-hunt thing just makes me sick and leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.

That being said, instead of 10% of my posts going here and 90% there, it will probably switch to 90% being here.  You guys are the best and I couldn't imagine not being part of the community here.

I know, some people will ask "Why would you even want to be reinstated after that????"  Only because there are some members there that I do like a lot; and I don't want to give up my friendship with them because of this - and mostly because I enjoy talking about customs over there.  I love it here even more, but I do wish there was some more traffic in our customs section.  

Trust me though, this is now my true home.

 :P


I'm feeling the same way at the moment.  I could get over the Spam although I took issue with the get-a-life stuff and the presence of my work email on the list... okay, we move on - but then banning all of these guys who had nothing to do with anything (yourself included) is beyond absurd.  Even if you are reinstated it's too little too late.  I'd prefer not to be banned over there for the same reasons you just gave - there are some good people there I'd like to keep in touch with, but my posting at Rebelscum will probably be limited to the local-finds section from here on out.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 06:39 PM
And now the "Missing member" thread is missing.  The last post being posted by your friend Matt, Mr. Lava Scapler, saying how you will be back under a new name in no time, you "are probally already there now". 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 06:45 PM
Wow - can't even talk about missing the people who have been terminated now? 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 06:46 PM
And now the "Missing member" thread is missing.  The last post being posted by your friend Matt, Mr. Lava Scapler, saying how you will be back under a new name in no time, you "are probally already there now". 
No, the last post had a bad Photoshop of Wise. I think that's likely what did it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 06:48 PM
And now the "Missing member" thread is missing.  The last post being posted by your friend Matt, Mr. Lava Scapler, saying how you will be back under a new name in no time, you "are probally already there now". 
No, the last post had a bad Photoshop of Wise. I think that's likely what did it.

That probally was it, I just new that that one post about Matt was the last I saw.  I guess who ever put the photo shop up is now going to be missing too. 

Welcome to the club, whoever you are.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on March 31, 2005, 06:48 PM
I think I know who made the pic...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 06:52 PM
It was posted by "PDub (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showprofile.php?User=9273&What=ubbthreads&Cat=)". I got a screen shot of the post before it disappeared. It went quick. LOL
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 31, 2005, 07:00 PM
Well, I don't blame you for wanting to keep contact with friends CHEWIE, and I can see your wanting your account open.  Like Matt often did at Rebelscum, I think it's a good trading community...  I have my likes of it.

And I'm not hell-bent against their staff either...  I think Mark is a cool guy, Dan Curto's cool too and a co-hort of mine over at FFURG.com...  I've even had fair and personable dealings with Philip, despite the things being said of him, but I also can observe that Philip was out of line (whether his site or not) by disrespecting such a large and obviously upset group of people.  Dismissing the feelings of an individual, at times, can be excused...  But dismissing the feelings of a large, and upset group, plus adding insult to their perceived injury, is not tactful or even commonly polite.

Of course, this is all just my opinion on something I can't change.

There's very few people I'd put on my list that I "hate".  Even fewer whom I have never met and know only as a persona online...  Those I often just dislike and think very little off, or simply have no respect for them to act a way online one knows they'd never act if you met them in person.  

Philip Wise I don't hate, despite the things said here, nor Dustin (who I know even less really), but my opinion stands that this is a poorly handled situation on Rebelscum's part...  Their site is nice, and I check Scum daily at least, but their forums seem like a secondary level of importance to them, and to basically insult such a large group of people (unnecessarilly) is just not good form.  

Scum has some conversations I enjoy but those become fewer by the month I find.  This whole mess, and a mess it certainly is, has only added to my dwindling opinion of the forum there I'm afraid.  Before it was being concerned at how there was never any punishment to the "trolls" that reside there, but now it's down to the entire way the site is run, and even what I consider an abuse of their power...  Glad you got let back in CHEWIE, but to me the damage is done as far as how I see the forum there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on March 31, 2005, 07:04 PM
I agree, the damage is done.  And I don't see any way they can ever justify people who never said or did anything being kicked out of there.

My postings there will be limited to just the customizing probably.  Sad to see this happen.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 31, 2005, 07:11 PM
I agree, the damage is done.  And I don't see any way they can ever justify people who never said or did anything being kicked out of there.

My postings there will be limited to just the customizing probably.  Sad to see this happen.

 :P

So you're account is back on RS?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Nicklab on March 31, 2005, 07:15 PM
I was a little upset to get that spam myself.  I'm surprised and disappointed to see that it erupted into something like this.  Phillip really needs to learn what customer service is.

Frankly, I think that Phillip abused the trust that people placed in his care by sharing email addresses like this.  There should be an express notification AND choice when registering for an account at the RS forums where you can decided whether or not you want to receive promotional offers from that site's business partners.  A lot of websites a lot bigger than RS do this and to their credit it's a good way of doing business.  They understand that their customers want privacy and don't want to be bogged down in spam.  Unfortunately, it seems that Phillip is more interested in money than in the privacy and spam protection of the membership.  Actions like the email that were sent, and his poor handling of criticism related to it are not a good business practice, but even moreso they're not in the spirit of a collecting community.  Shame on Phillip Wise and shame on Rebelscum.

And FYI, I just subtly bombed a thread there to show my displeasure with how Officialpix just snuck in a $5 charge for every photo at the Celebration 3 autograph pavillion.  I guess I'll start counting down to my own banning there now.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 07:21 PM
The last post being posted by your friend Matt, Mr. Lava Scapler, saying how you will be back under a new name in no time, you "are probally already there now".

Nope.  If I was back in there as a sock, you most certainly would've known it.  I have a hard time sitting idle when fools (Philip, Jimbo, Katmandu) are lying out of their asses left and right.  Folks would've definitely known if I had hopped back into the mix there, especially that homophobe scalper Katmandu.

Now like I was saying earlier, regarding liars...

As for Jimbo suggesting he hasn't given me a second thought since we had to ban him from JD here long ago, that's absolutely laughable.  He's posted about me incessantly at sites like The Jawa and Trade Fed, where I wasn't even a member.  He even thanked me personally in his main page news post at Trade Fed (after we hadn't even corresponded in months), when he returned to that site since he was banned from all the rest at the time.

Here's a couple snippets showing how often Jimbo "doesn't" think of me:

Jimmy_'s Trade Fed reintroduction (http://www.tradefederation.net/cldata/tfforum2/604.html)  (after we hadn't chatted in several months)

Quote
It's been a little while since I've been around serving you up some fresh pipping hot news... but all that is about to change.  I'm officially back and ready to help my bud Sharon Bronson and the familia known as the Trade Federation out (as well as you the readers) with all the latest and greatest Star Wars news you can fit on your plate. blah, blah, blah...

Also thanks to people like my bud Matt Coleman for making this that much more meaningful.

Here's his signature line at The Jawa, from a PM of mine to him:

Jimmy_'s Jawa Profile (http://www.thejawa.com/yabbse/index.php?action=profile;u=455) (must log in to view it)

Quote
"It's been said that I am...

"the most unhappy, angry, ego-maniacal, and pathetic member of the entire online collecting community (and greater society as a whole)"

My parents would be proud..."

Just a couple little nuggets, from the many.  Yep, he's not thinking about me at all...  :P  The admiration is mutual, James Souza!  My soulmate...   :-*

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Nicklab on March 31, 2005, 07:29 PM
Here's his signature line at The Jawa, from a PM of mine to him:

Jimmy_'s Jawa Profile (http://www.thejawa.com/yabbse/index.php?action=profile;u=455) (must log in to view it)

Quote
"It's been said that I am...

"the most unhappy, angry, ego-maniacal, and pathetic member of the entire online collecting community (and greater society as a whole)"

My parents would be proud..."

Just a couple little nuggets, from the many.  Yep, he's not thinking about me at all...  :P  The admiration is mutual, James Souza!  My soulmate...   :-*

 :P

Don't drag the Jawa into your tiff with Jimmy_.  Jimmy_ is his own person and hasn't been active with us for about 6 months or more.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 07:31 PM
Just a little shout out to the staff here since Phillip removed Jedidefenders link at Rebelscum it would seem only fair to remove his link on here since most sites put up each other links as favors for each other.  SInce it is apperant that they is no love between the sites then I don't see why there is a link to Rebelscum here.
Just my 2 cents
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 07:32 PM
It was posted by "PDub (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showprofile.php?User=9273&What=ubbthreads&Cat=)". I got a screen shot of the post before it disappeared. It went quick. LOL


PDub...certainly not PDubs of the Sith...he's been with me for most of the day, and he doesnt post at all anymore.

Weird.

You cant veiw the forum anymore, I see.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 07:34 PM
It was posted by "PDub (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showprofile.php?User=9273&What=ubbthreads&Cat=)". I got a screen shot of the post before it disappeared. It went quick. LOL


PDub...certainly not PDubs of the Sith...he's been with me for most of the day, and he doesnt post at all anymore.

Weird.

You cant veiw the forum anymore, I see.

Kevin
I can't view that post but can get in to other areas fine so I think it is just that thread.

Edit:  This goes to Zod's post below.  When I reply to sender my email bounced back to me so it wouldn't of work it seems.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 07:41 PM
Oh. I have some interesting news, if I can find a link, about a certain service you can pay for that floods back spam to spammers 20 fold. I heard about it on the news a few days ago.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 07:42 PM
It was posted by "PDub (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showprofile.php?User=9273&What=ubbthreads&Cat=)". I got a screen shot of the post before it disappeared. It went quick. LOL

You'd think they could just delete the post in question and not the ENTIRE thread...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 07:44 PM
Oh. I have some interesting news, if I can find a link, about a certain service you can pay for that floods back spam to spammers 20 fold. I heard about it on the news a few days ago.

Kevin

Most of the time SPAM is sent from addresses that are either unable to accept email or are unused after the mass emailings.  Also, most of the time requesting to have your name taken off of a SPAM email list only serves to confirm that your email is a valid one and you end up getting  a billion more crappy junk mails.

I'm sure that if something like that were done, Phillip could just delete freeze@rebelscum.com and create a new email address to send from the next time some toy company pays him out the whazoo to send out advertisements.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 31, 2005, 07:49 PM
I heard about the spam flood thing myself.  I gotta assume that it's more sophisticated than just something that returns E-mails to the sender's address.  Maybe it can track the path of the E-mail and find the original server (though I figure most of those paths gotta be spoofed to begin with).  If they have something that can get past the spoofs... well then that'd be worth reporting on the news.

I wonder if there's a link floating around out there somewhere.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 07:51 PM
Sending Spam Back to Sender (http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20050325173440660)

There ya go!

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 07:52 PM
Don't drag the Jawa into your tiff with Jimmy_.  Jimmy_ is his own person and hasn't been active with us for about 6 months or more.

I know that Nick.  I wasn't talking about theJawa personally.  I was just pointing out Jimmy_'s sig there.  Out of respect for you and most of theJawa crew, I refrained from posting all the public conversations he and Delvec had about me in your forums there when I wasn't around.  ;)

And Tom, 'Scum never had a link to us up on their site, and we've never had one back to them either.  I assume you're talking about the affilliate type buttons on the main page, right?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 07:57 PM
You'd think they could just delete the post in question and not the ENTIRE thread...  ::)

LJ, Josh or Tommy can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I don't think the RS forums have all the cool bells and whistles that ours have here.  We can pretty much do anything with member's posts/threads - we can merge them, split them, isolate single posts... pretty much everything, and quite unobtrusive to our members too.  Some very nifty features here, that really help to keep this forum organized and running smoothly, for sure.  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 07:57 PM
Don't drag the Jawa into your tiff with Jimmy_.  Jimmy_ is his own person and hasn't been active with us for about 6 months or more.

I know that Nick.  I wasn't talking about theJawa personally.  I was just pointing out Jimmy_'s sig there.  Out of respect for you and most of theJawa crew, I refrained from posting all the public conversations he and Delvec had about me in your forums there when I wasn't around.  ;)

And Tom, 'Scum never had a link to us up on their site, and we've never had one back to them either.  I assume you're talking about the affilliate type buttons on the main page, right?
Matt,  on the left hand side of the main page where you have the fourm, chat room, etc buttons one of them is links.  If you click on that there is a RS link which takes you to RS.  I would post a screen shot of it if I knew how and had the time.

Edit: C3 is going to be fun now after this.  How many people here are going to get auto's.  I'm will probally get them but I was thinking about get the auto book for $200 and somethingt but decided against it after this.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 31, 2005, 08:01 PM
You're right, the one feature that would totally help we dont have, the merge feature. That I would love to see, so much better on the eyes than to see all these locked threads!!! ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 08:09 PM
>:( >:( >:( WHY HASN'T GNT BEEN BANNED YET? >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 31, 2005, 08:10 PM
Just a little shout out to the staff here since Phillip removed Jedidefenders link at Rebelscum it would seem only fair to remove his link on here since most sites put up each other links as favors for each other.  SInce it is apperant that they is no love between the sites then I don't see why there is a link to Rebelscum here.
Just my 2 cents


I'd like to think we can take the higher road and not sink to the petty level that has brought us to this point.   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 08:15 PM
Even if they don't have a delete post function - I know there is an edit-post function and one could simply remove the item, ban the user, and leave the thread.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2005, 08:17 PM
Matt,  on the left hand side of the main page where you have the fourm, chat room, etc buttons one of them is links.  If you click on that there is a RS link which takes you to RS.  I would post a screen shot of it if I knew how and had the time.

http://www.jedidefender.com/links.php

Thanks for pointing it out, I hadn't noticed that...


I'd like to think we can take the higher road and not sink to the petty level that has brought us to this point. :)

You'd think so, but when my ass gets banned for nothing more than being buds with JediMAC?

Gone.   :)

I just went in there and "updated" the page and dumped the RS linky...  8)

Jeff

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 08:24 PM
Phil doesn't give a rats ass about any of his members. Everyone should come here. Except GNT. Let him rot and rack up another 50000 posts this month.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 08:32 PM
Edit: C3 is going to be fun now after this.  How many people here are going to get auto's.  I'm will probally get them but I was thinking about get the auto book for $200 and somethingt but decided against it after this.
With companies like this guy's outfit so heavily involved, I'm glad I decided against going at all.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 08:35 PM
Yeah. Avoid C2 Ventures/Official Pix booths at all costs. Anyone volunteering to work is a moron. Don't you idiots have anything better to do... like ENJOYING C3?

Can someone post that photoshopped picture of Pil, I missed it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 08:39 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/images/rsmark-tn.jpg)


I have lost all respect for Mark Hamill. ::) :P :-\ :) Look how happy Pil looks.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 08:47 PM
Yeah. Avoid C2 Ventures/Official Pix booths at all costs. Anyone volunteering to work is a moron. Don't you idiots have anything better to do... like ENJOYING C3?

Can someone post that photoshopped picture of Pil, I missed it.

(pic removed)

Yikes.  I think we're gonna have to keep that one off the boards here...  Sorry Ook!  ;)  - Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 08:49 PM
Matt,  on the left hand side of the main page where you have the fourm, chat room, etc buttons one of them is links.  If you click on that there is a RS link which takes you to RS.

I'll be damned.  Looks like you're right about that Tom.  No idea how we all brainfarted on that one all this time, 'cause I gaurantee you that if any of us were aware of that over the past year or so, it would've probably been removed long ago.  So thanks for the head's up there!  :P


And I see that Matkatnadam is STILL having trouble figuring out if he really scalped his Lava Vader (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1107620&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3), or not.  Wow, that guy's rather dense.  :-X

Still blaming the entire issue on me too, I see.  Amusing!  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 08:50 PM
LOL! HAHAHAHAAHAH!

Now make one of GNT at his computer celebrating his 30000000 post.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 08:53 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/images/rsmark-tn.jpg)

Never seen this shot before.  Myatt, and surprisingly Mark in there, but who's the guy in the top left corner?

Mark Hurray's definitely one of the RS'ers that I really like.  He's good people.  8)

Of course, Philip will probably fire him now that I said that.

But I thought Dustin was pretty cool before yesterday as well, and we all know how that turned out...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 08:55 PM
It's on rebel ***'s site. Pill wanted to show off that he knows Mark Hamill. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 08:57 PM
Matt,  on the left hand side of the main page where you have the fourm, chat room, etc buttons one of them is links.  If you click on that there is a RS link which takes you to RS.

I'll be damned.  Looks like you're right about that Tom.  No idea how we all brainfarted on that one all this time, 'cause I gaurantee you that if any of us were aware of that over the past year or so, it would've probably been removed long ago.  So thanks for the head's up there!  :P

No problem, Matt.  

Quote
And I see that Matkatnadam is STILL having trouble figuring out if he really scalped his Lava Vader (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1107620&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3), or not.  Wow, that guy's rather dense.  :-X

Still blaming the entire issue on me too, I see.  Amusing!  ;D

I like LJ response on that thread where she says she should close it since he isn't really sorry for what he did.  I hope she does in a way.  THat guy needs to get a clue on what it is that he did wrong.  
I wonder if someone should email the buyer since he is being screwed out of this figure now since Katnadam isn't going to give it to him, even through the auction ended.  I hope the buyer negs his feedback for back out of his contract.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 08:59 PM
http://www.wiseacres.com/default.htm

Check out Pill's life before he became addicted to money.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 09:03 PM
(pic removed)

That pic is way too big, and we already have a couple pix of Phil in here already.  No need for the whole family album...  - Matt  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 31, 2005, 09:05 PM
I'm editing my original post so I won't have something pinned on me in Wise's increasingly paranoid quest for power.  Of course, the fact that I considered he (or his sheep) are trolling the JD forums to look for ammunition doesn't make me look any less paranoid, but oh well.   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 09:07 PM
I dont' see what Pictures of Phillip and what I'm assuming is his Grandchild have to do with anything.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 09:10 PM
I dont' see what Pictures of Phillip and what I'm assuming is his Grandchild have to do with anything.

I agree with this statement.  The Collector please remove this picture with Philip and his granddaughter.  His family should not be bouhgt into this stuff. 

Edit: Matt took care of it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 09:10 PM
I already removed it.

Any ideas?

Definitely the latter, Michael!  :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 09:11 PM
I already removed it.

Yeah I know when I was posting my comment. ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 09:12 PM
I'd go a little further and say that Wiseacres has nothing to do with it either - I don't think anyone here should have a problem with the way he runs that website. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 31, 2005, 09:19 PM
Well, I ended up going the third route.  I went ahead and PMd an admin to have them delete my account.  I'm a very private person and I'd hate to have someone I had traded with in the past see me ****** GNT or Wise and disagree, then subsequently decide to post my private information.  So, I went the diplomatic route which, while the least fun, avoided adding any more fuel to the fire.

Besides, Wise is doing a good enough job of burning the whole village down by himself. :)

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 09:36 PM
Well, I ended up going the third route.  I went ahead and PMd an admin to have them delete my account. 

Viva la revolution!

Good choice. :)

You should have gone the public route like me an JediKnight(insertnumbershere)!

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 31, 2005, 09:38 PM
WTF, I thought PW was the one with the goatee??? Man he's an old schooler!!! He looks kind of young in his lil avatar!!!

But I do like his pug, great pics with him and the baby!! I love pugs!!! :-* I want one of my own!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on March 31, 2005, 09:51 PM
Hi Lady Jaye, it's nice to see you over here and not just stuck in one place.   :)

I hope that nobody here is mad at me for getting reinstated there.  The only reason I wanted to be was to keep in touch with the customizers there.  I doubt I will ever post in another section there again.

JD.com is where it's at.  I hope we get some more members here.

 :P

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 09:59 PM
Hi Lady Jaye, it's nice to see you over here and not just stuck in one place.   :)

I hope that nobody here is mad at me for getting reinstated there.  The only reason I wanted to be was to keep in touch with the customizers there.  I doubt I will ever post in another section there again.

JD.com is where it's at.  I hope we get some more members here.

 :P



Not at all. I was going to keep my account active for the same reason,  but I kinda burned that bridge ::)  And then I didn't care anymore, the people I wanted to keep in touch with either came here, I already have their e-mail, or they are at FFURG. So it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on March 31, 2005, 10:00 PM
Peronally, I still don't think this mail was NEARLY big enough a deal for the ****storm that followed it.  The mail didn't  even bother me.....and actually, I still don't get why people are so bent out of shape about it.

Ok the thread went insane in the 24 hours since I last checked it out. something like 12 new pages added to it, sorry to hear that so many people have had to deal with bulllshit stemming from my original post on scum about the spam. But I wanna reply to the above quote from Josh to explain a bit why I made the original post.

The e-mail message was an unsolicited message sent to the email addresses of users of the Rebelscum forums (and as in KBZ's case e-mail addresses not associated with the user account). While there was a mention of this being done in their privacy notice, this was never publicly mentioned. Why should it be mentioned? Because a good portion of the users at Rebelscum's forums signed up at the previous home of those forums, specifically CollectStarWars. By signing up there we were agreeing to those terms and any new terms should have been announced to the user base. Furthermore, under law  (The CAN-SPAM Act of 2003) the message must include an opt-out from the e-mail list for any future messages, from http://www.emailmarketingautoresponders.com/spamlaw.htm ....

Quote
Commercial e-mail must contain a clear identification that the message is an advertisement, must contain a conspicuous notice of opportunity to decline further e-mail and must display the physical postal address of the sender.

The message received from Phil and TRU did NOT include this opt-out message and that was in of itself one of my problems, though I admit I could have better stated that in my original thread on scum.

In the end the message was unsolicited and unwanted. It was just a repeat of information already on display on Rebelscum's news page, but apparently that wasn't enough. I expressed my concerns really as a way to make sure this did not become a re-occuring theme, where we start getting emails from other Rebelscum advertisers. No other reputable site that I know of, does these things (don't include SSG as doing it, because they aren't reputable to me), so I see no reason for it to have been done by scum. Well no reason that expresses a sense of community....
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 31, 2005, 10:07 PM
I understand that it was spam.  My comments weren't insinuating otherwise.  I certainly don't remember having an option to "opt out" back when I registered....but at the same time, it's just one of 500 junk mails I got that day, and it happened to be Star Wars related, which really didn't bother me.  That's all I'm saying.  It;s not a big enough deal to cause all this.


However, I didn't even check to see if there was an opt-out thing on the email itself. Doesn't that mean that technically we can get 500 bucks from Philip for each offense now?  Or at least in Washington state we can.  Where I LIVE.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 31, 2005, 10:08 PM
Cha ching, cha ching!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2005, 10:11 PM
Damn it Corran it was all your fault!!!!! ;) :)

No worries man, someone would have started that thread sooner or later, and it wasn't your fault that Philip was a jerk and can't answer an innocent question without thinking about a bit of precious money that might be taken out of his pocket. ::)

EDIT: Speaking of money... Philip should send about $500 my way....
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 10:14 PM
I understand that it was spam.  My comments weren't insinuating otherwise.  I certainly don't remember having an option to "opt out" back when I registered....but at the same time, it's just one of 500 junk mails I got that day, and it happened to be Star Wars related, which really didn't bother me.  That's all I'm saying.  It;s not a big enough deal to cause all this.

The spam itself did not cause all of this.  That was just the impetus.  Philip's callous and arrogant response to his own forum members is what really got the ****storm going.

Oh, well, that and apparently he now refuses to share his site with people from other forums as well, of course...  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on March 31, 2005, 10:16 PM
Well technically yes if someone wanted to inform the proper authorities I assume TRU and Phil could be fined for it. While it was just one more spam in a litany of spam I get in my email, my biggest concern is that maybe the number of spam will increase if we get more messages from Phil and his advertisers. Or worse, what if some of the spam I get is already due to me being on Rebelscum? Not the crap like porn or pills cause that would be just disturbing, but I get spam from places selling SW **** often, who knows where that exactly comes from...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 10:19 PM
If some one can find the Toys R Us customer service portion of their website, and give me an adress (cause I cant find the damned thing) I'll gladly let them know of this little fiasco, or better yet, some one send me an email adress so he gets a fine. I've got nothing better to do till work tommorow.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2005, 10:52 PM

I hope that nobody here is mad at me for getting reinstated there.  The only reason I wanted to be was to keep in touch with the customizers there.  I doubt I will ever post in another section there again.

JD.com is where it's at.  I hope we get some more members here.

 :P

No one would be mad at you in the slightest.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on March 31, 2005, 11:38 PM
I called my lawyer and he said we have a case! ;D

Prepare for Wise VS the board of Star Wars geeks.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on March 31, 2005, 11:45 PM
BTW, I was just kidding. I don't want to be woken up by Wise's lawyer tomorrow. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rod on April 1, 2005, 01:39 AM
WOW!!

This is quite an interesting read....I have laughed, cried and gone to the bathroom a few times....that's how long it took me to read due to my slow butt computer.

Among many of you I had gotten that TRU e-mail but didn't even give it a second thought.....just thought it was weir that it came from PW.

But then today I noticed that the JediDefender link was gone....as someone posted above.

Thanks to a member here that sent me a PM I came over here to read this. have been a member here for a long time but due to the slow traffic in regards to Gentle Giant stuff....my #1 love when it comes to collectibles......I have done most of my talking over there....also cause there posts from certain trolls I enjoy reading so much...LOL

I had heard on many occasions about people not liking Mr. WIse too much....my motto has always been that I would not form an opinion on someone solely based on what other people think of that said person.  I gotta say this really doesn't help.....

I am very against censoring someones posts.....even if someone posts something about you or your actions you shouldn't delete it.  Go ahead and discuss it.  That is why they are called sidcussion forums. Deleting it, banning members and all the other things that have been going on just make you look bad......and little by little this will be your undoing.  Talk and discuss it and be respected......Such a shame....

Oh, and I almost forgot....did somebody say that Jimmy has his own site? This I gotta see...LOL.  That is a whole other topic on itself...LMAO
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 1, 2005, 01:52 AM
There's some GG collectors here Rod, at least of the Busts and Bust-ups, but perhaps not the newer statue pieces that are coming.  But hopefully you'll chime in on the GG thread in here.  I just got some busts a couple days ago, but haven't looked 'em over too thoroughly yet.  Up for chatting about them any time though!  8)

Oh, and I almost forgot....did somebody say that Jimmy has his own site? This I gotta see...LOL.  That is a whole other topic on itself...LMAO

Well, I'm not sure if that's related to something I said there or not, but I remember at one point I referred to Jimbo as Mr. Retailer/e-tailer, after he was babbling about working retail and not liking customers hassling him about stuff.  But aside from that, he's been yapping incessantly for years about all of his "e-tailer" experience he's had working for a site or two - Yestertoys, perhaps?  Don't even recall now.  I never said he actually had a site.  He saw that I called him Mr. e-tailer and went all ape**** begging me to prove it.  But as far as I know, he doesn't have his own site or anything like that.  Basically, he's just always bragged about being involved with an e-tailer or two, and about all the astounding experience and "inside scoops" he got out of it, which makes him far more knowledgeable than any other collector out there on just about any potential issue.  That's all I was getting at anyway, so I'm guessing that may be what you're referring to...

But to be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if he had a site for selling stuff, especially since he spends his weekends selling collectibles at local toy shows for his only (personal) source of income.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 1, 2005, 02:01 AM
Great signature! Philip emailed me when I responded to his spam calling me an idiot, telling me I could opt not to get the mail, and that a slow witted person like me could probably not manage to figure it out.

Real classy.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on April 1, 2005, 02:18 AM
I just asked him to remove my address from his servers, and the only response I got was "Done."

I figured he wouldn't need my address if I'm not going to be at RS anymore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 1, 2005, 02:27 AM
Wow. WTF does the jackass have against me?

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on April 1, 2005, 06:50 AM
I just asked him to remove my address from his servers, and the only response I got was "Done."

I figured he wouldn't need my address if I'm not going to be at RS anymore.

Better than what I got. I told him i wasn't going to whinning about my banning or anything and that I'd like my mail and ifo taken of their servers, He responded with a quote of Saying that chewie's ban was the last straw and I was coming here. He gave me some smart-ass comment like I've already heard enough whinning and called me stupid or something. So i don't even know if he took me off. ??? >:( I responded asking him if I was off or not, and I have yet to hear back.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 1, 2005, 11:15 AM
Wow. He's stooped to calling members slow witted and stupid? Now that's classy. ::)


Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Nathan on April 1, 2005, 11:38 AM
Out of curiousity to see if anything happens, I added our "MN & Canuckia Store Reports" thread to my RS sig. I only have 3 posts at RS, so I highly doubt anything will come of it.  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 1, 2005, 11:39 AM
I just tried to log into my RS forums account to find that, per my request, the account had been "banned or locked."  While it isn't the badge of honor that being banned entails, I am very proud to say that, from this point on, I will not have anything to do with RS whatsoever.

And if he's resorting to questioning members' intelligence through email?  That's just the epitome of class.  I'd very much like to see the text of those emails, unless it would be invading someone's privacy.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2005, 03:14 PM
Well I guess that it was my turn to go...

Account got banned sometime today I guess.  Sorry to say really, as I have not wronged anyone there, and treated their staff with nothing but respect when I have had dealings with them.  I can even say I consider at least one there a friend, but that's the way the cards fall I guess.

I'm officially banned for doing not one thing wrong.  :)  Classic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 1, 2005, 03:17 PM
Jesse you got banned???? ??? You were nothing but courteous and respectful to all, I don't think you had a bad thing to say about anyone, and no one had but high respect and esteem for you as well. Sorry to see you go.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 1, 2005, 03:18 PM
I always respected how you could debate with people on RS in the most diplomatic manner.  I really think RS has lost one of their highest quality members.   :(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 1, 2005, 03:20 PM
Jesse you got banned???? ??? You were nothing but courteous and respectful to all, I don't think you had a bad thing to say about anyone, and no one had but high respect and esteem for you as well. Sorry to see you go.

Lady Jaye, careful what you say here. I think the corn has ears, if you know what I mean.

Wouldn't want to see you get banned over sympathy.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on April 1, 2005, 03:24 PM
I'm officially banned for doing not one thing wrong.  :)  Classic.

You can join the "nice JD guys who got banned" club with me and Dave, who also just like us got banned for simply being JD staff members!

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 1, 2005, 03:26 PM
Jesse you got banned???? ??? You were nothing but courteous and respectful to all, I don't think you had a bad thing to say about anyone, and no one had but high respect and esteem for you as well. Sorry to see you go.

Posted by PW at Rebelscum:
"The link was removed today, as well as all Jedi Defender staff were advised they could no longer use the Rebelscum forum.

This was done after constant and repeated use of our forum by some of their staff to bash Rebelscum.
Which isn't very nice, nor acceptable.

They have their own forum to do this on if they see fit.

I consider Rebelscum to be a place where friends of ours can communicate. Some of these people have abused this consideration in a manner we can no longer allow.

This is all that will be said on the subject because it doesn't deserve conversation."


It seems as if all staff members will soon be banned over there since they work here.  SO I guess we need to see what happens to Zod and DSJ now since it seems those are the only two staff members that are not banned there.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 1, 2005, 03:30 PM
PHIL! YOU SONOFAB*TCH! >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on April 1, 2005, 03:59 PM
I can't believe him. JJ you are of the nicest guys I have seen on any forum. You treat everyone with respect and are very curtious, even when you are being flamed. It is truly admirable. I don't think I have ever heard you say anything bad to anyone. Philip has lost ti completely if he thinks you and the other "nice" JD members are the root of all the "problems" at RS. In the last couple of days he has gotten rid of most of the members that held that community together. He is just shooting himself in the foot.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2005, 04:01 PM
Well, thanks for the kind words from you LJ and you Jess...  I appreciate that.

Honestly, I have lots of negative things to say about a handful of people at Rebelscum.com...  Generally the perpetual trolls there like TK-421_1/2, for instance, who is someone I've not respected from the first post I ever saw him make there....  There are others, and they'll be the first to tell you how much they dislike me too. :)  

The thing was that I didn't do anything but debate my difference of opinion with them, so my banning was unjust in every fashion.  I never trashed Rebelscum.com at their site, nor would I.  I thought it was a useful resource for what I used it for...  The sections I visited I enjoyed.  I even posted my reviews there and encouraged people to discuss them with me THERE in the post I made.  If anything, Philip should thank me for the effort, but that's apparantly not going to happen.  ;)

I'm not really worried about it though.  This is my home here...  It's my fun volunteering job too, and I know the people here are quality.  It's a place that I know that the rules are adhered to, and enforced, and that the community is just that...  This is a community.  This isn't a "for profit" business.  This isn't anything that anyone here does to make a name for themselves, they just put their heart into making it a real community for Star Wars fans/collectors.

I was never a person who cut all options off for himself though, and I appreciated Rebelscum, even if I felt it was run rather shoddy most of the time.  Now I just have my confirmation that whatever my opinion was (good or bad), that Rebelscum's in poor management hands.

I'm disappointed though, to say that I gave Philip more credit as a person really.  I've had correspondence with him and it's been nothing but cordial and polite when I have.  He even helped me obtain something I needed once.  I gave him respect that, after this incident, I realize wasn't wholely deserved on my part.  You can't expect people to be anything more than they are though...  

Like my grandmother would have said, "He's as nice as he knows how to be", which has turned out to be less than I'd thought of him.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2005, 04:03 PM
BTW, Dave (jokabofe) is far more deserving of these feelings like you expressed SLC.  He really has never even raised anyone's dander there.  He's the kinda guy everyone has to respect and yet he was canned before me...  Apparantly being nice and quiet over there is bad, bad, bad.   

Arrogant, and obtaining 50,000 posts as quickly as possible at the expense of ANY level of quality is what Rebelscum admires perhaps?   ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on April 1, 2005, 04:16 PM

Arrogant, and obtaining 50,000 posts as quickly as possible at the expense of ANY level of quality is what Rebelscum admires perhaps?   ???

Why the hell is he still around? They complain about post padding, theri own mod is worse than anyone else. He falmes member ands bickers all the time. I've seen him close other people's threads becasue he wanted to start his own on the same topic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2005, 04:19 PM
I can't believe you got banned to JJ... I can't believe that anyone did.  I'm actually surprised that I got reinstated.  It might be a matter of time before I get kicked out of there for good.

Like I said before, the only thing I will post there from now on will be customs.  There are some great people there that I don't want to not be able to talk to anymore.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on April 1, 2005, 04:21 PM
I can't believe you got banned to JJ... I can't believe that anyone did.  I'm actually surprised that I got reinstated.  It might be a matter of time before I get kicked out of there for good.

Like I said before, the only thing I will post there from now on will be customs.  There are some great people there that I don't want to not be able to talk to anymore.

 :P

I told them on RS that they should go to FFURG or come here to post their customs , but the thread was deleted when I got banned, so I don't think many saw it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2005, 04:36 PM
So... now they don't want people talking over at ffurg.com either then?

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 1, 2005, 04:44 PM
I remember when a newbie asked "how many posts do I need to become a mod?". That was an unbiased assessment of rebelscum's current situation.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 1, 2005, 04:44 PM
You can join the "nice JD guys who got banned" club with me and Dave, who also just like us got banned for simply being JD staff members!

Hey, I resent that!!!  >:(


 ;D

Can't believe they canned you Jess.  Have you talked to Dan about it at all?  Not that he'd have a say in the matter, but eventually I'd suspect that some of Philip's staff might want to speak up to the arrogant bastard.

I greatly fear for Dale's life there, 'cause I know he'll be extremely upset to lose his vintage priveleges there.  I'd hope the vintage community would raise a serious ****storm there if the axe drops on him as well.  But maybe if they did that, it would finally encourage Gus and the gang to set up some boards for the TRG site, and just move that whole group over there...

Sorry Jess.  Soon to be very sorry for Rob as well, probably.  But RS just lost one of it's alltime (we're talking Top 5 here) members by giving Jesse James the boot.  As much of a point as they're trying to make against JediDefender, they're really starting to hurt themselves.

Has anyone pointed out JJ's banning at RS yet?  He had a lot of friends and fans there that I'm sure would be more than interested in knowing this...  (not that the thread would survive for more than 5 minutes)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on April 1, 2005, 04:52 PM
You can join the "nice JD guys who got banned" club with me and Dave, who also just like us got banned for simply being JD staff members!

Hey, I resent that!!!  >:(

OK, you're a nice guy... you can be in our club too.  ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 1, 2005, 05:03 PM
So Dale and I are the last of the Mohicans eh?

Maybe this is just all one brilliantly executed April Fool's gag courtesy of the Rebelscum staff.  Yeah... that's the ticket.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 1, 2005, 05:19 PM
KBZ, you should get yourself banned. The less good members they have, the more screwed up it will be.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2005, 05:19 PM
Oh JJ - I see that you don't get a long with TK-421-1/2... I know a lot of people argue with him and he sometimes says some stuff that seems out of line.  But I've always gotten along great with him.  He and I have several times been the only ones in a thread acting like real people while in argument with a bunch of newbies...

He's also a stand up guy when it comes to trades.... I've bought a lot of stuff off him in the past with every single transaction being 100% perfect.

He seems to hate it there, as he often says that it's not the place it used to be... if he came here I wonder if he would be welcome.  I always liked him.

Anyways, I bet Dale would be pissed if he got the axe too... wonder if it will happen or not.

How would you feel Zod if you got the axe too?

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2005, 05:47 PM
Chewie,

If TK could interact well with the majority, fine, but he and I never see eye-to-eye it seems.  I'll be honest and say that I don't see how he could survive here if he kept up his "I am so sick of people complaining" rhetoric.  I'm just being honest with you, but he's very condescending towards anyone who does something like "wait for clearance" on things (saw him laughing at a guy over at scum who missed something because he waited...  What good does that serve anyone, to laugh at the guy, whether you agree with his decision to do so?)...  I know you don't agree with that either, but I also don't believe you'd antagonize (I'd hope not) in the process.  He tends to do that.

He's also a huge hatred of anything critical about Hasbro...  He was one of the chief antagonists when I proclaimed my disdain for Fleet Troopers as I recall...  He was quite vehement during the Saga run when product was shoddy at best.  I've always said of him that, "he acts like his check is cut by Hasbro themselves"...  So I dunno.  He's got rules to follow here that he may not like when it comes to how he's behaved over there, though I don't doubt he's a stand-up guy with trades and things.

Matt/everyone,

Don't worry about the ban, I'm not hurt by it, nor am I really even upset.  It trims my customizing viewing down, but my discussion there was limited lately anyway...  I did enjoy looking at people's works, but I've felt their customizing discussion was really nothing more than a lot of praise.  Most times critiquiing wasn't welcome even.

I won't really miss a lot there... 

Dan Curto's a nice fellow, but I won't put him in the place between Philip and I.  Really I don't even have Philip on an opposing side...  I was simply banned with no reason, so there's no debate to be had.  Dan's a good guy and I wouldn't put him out or anything.  He and I will still run into each other at FFURG's forums I'm sure at some point, or even at their chat maybe. 

If anything, I appreciated teh vintage area more (even though my lack of posting), and if I had any type of loss it'd be the same as Dale potentially.  I too would like to see Gus form a forum for just vintage.  To me that'd be ideal whether I was banned from Scum or not.  It'd be ideal for the hobby itself.

The nice thoughts really are appreciated.  I'm not so sure there's people left at Scum that were "on my side" though.  Not many at least I'd think...  I've made more than a few people upset with me in the past, and I never really cared of course, but I wouldn't expect them to feel bad that I'm gone.  Now they can tell people who complain to "shut up", and "Why don't you just quit the hobby since all you do is complain" all that they want.   ;D  Too bad for the guys left there though, yikes.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2005, 06:07 PM
I guess that TK and I kinda share the same philosphy - if you like it, get it when you see it.  He may have a different opinion than I do as far as ripping someone for wanting to buy something... for example, let's say Hasbro were making an AT-TE... and it was $80.00, which might be a bit high, but hell it's worth it to someone who really wants it. 

Then people who have always wanted one wait for them to go on clearance... that's just bad for the hobby IMO.  And then if they don't get it, they are mad as hell.  Doens't make sense to me.

But ripping someone for it doesn't either, so you are right.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 1, 2005, 06:49 PM
KBZ, you should get yourself banned. The less good members they have, the more screwed up it will be.

I think we all know that RS is screwed up, but I'm not sure that anyone getting themself intentionally banned is the answer.  Doing something stupid to get banned will just give Philip the ammunition he needs to claim that JD is a "problem". 

The guys that have been banned from RS obviously weren't booted for legitimate reasons, so why should Rob (KBZ) suddenly lower himself to Philip's level and act like an idiot?  That's exactly what the schmuck wants.  Granted, it would piss off some of KBZ's supporters, and we may get a few more Scummers move over here.  But acting with some integrity is what makes JD the place that we respect so much.  Let Philip make the ****tard move, then anyone who is banned without due reason can honestly say they took the high road.

Now, obviously, I don't have nearly the history with RS that my fellow staff members do.  It certainly doesn't speak for Rob's opinions on the matter, and is just my general opinion on the matter.

[/diplomacy]   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2005, 06:54 PM
I think Jesse's right, and I wouldn't want you guys giving them any reason, even if slight, to be upset back.  If Rob wants to quit there he will, and if he's banned he's banned.  I know a lot of the people here in this thread are very upset, but please don't take it out on their forums (who still have members just going about their business of course), and disrupt their flow just as a way of "going out in style" there.

Simply walking away (if that's even what you want) is the better choice, and speaks many volumes more in its more calm tone.

Thanks guys (and girls).
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on April 1, 2005, 07:59 PM
wow JJ I just got your pm and saw the posts here, that is beyond totally ****** up.

I can understand the bannings if actual bashing of scum by JD'ers ON scum's forums, but as we all know that wasn't the case and this is just a bunch of bull****, because phil's gotten his undies all in a wad and innocent people like Dave, a long time outstanding member of the community, are getting in the way. well that's just ****** sick. if you have problems with individuals, deal with it on an individual basis, don't go casting a long reach.

I now await my banishment from scum for making these comments here (note that I made them here and not on scum!). come on scum mods, I know you're reading this thread and sending word back to phil. come on now, prove me wrong!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 1, 2005, 08:33 PM
Quote
Simply walking away (if that's even what you want) is the better choice, and speaks many volumes more in its more calm tone.

JJ, that's the conclusion I came to last night when I was debating how I was going to leave the RS forums (with my great big post count of 42 and last login during 2003).  While, on the one hand, my sick sense of humor would have been satisfied from seeing GNT open a thread and find ****** staring back at him, on the other hand, I knew that, in the grand scheme of things, a simple request to be deleted was more poignant.

Somehow I have a feeling that the RS forums will become "pay per use" before too long.  Once the final Celebration has come and gone this summer, and once he can't use his TFN/RS clout to get more newspaper interviews, Wise will begin to grasp at straws.  If this whole mess has proven anything, it's that Wise is batshit insane and all about the money.

Seriously, I am really saddened to hear about so many of you guys being banned for simply being affiliated with JD.com.  It proves rather handily that Wise has a vendetta and that he does not want to hear any dissenting opinions whatsoever, especially those that question his majesty.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 1, 2005, 08:51 PM
I am really surprised to read about the banning of a couple of you guys today.  Perhaps it is all just a cruel April Fool's joke, payback for all those jokes over the years?

If indeed this WAS all just a prank, it would go down as one of the funniest ever.  Unfortunately, right now it's not that funny.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on April 1, 2005, 08:52 PM
The banned most of them yesterday, it was March 31st then, I don't think its a joke
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2005, 09:40 PM
And even if he said tomorrow "Hey guys, come on back, April Fools!", I'd stay away anyhow.  Like I said, this whole thing has simply lost what respect I did have for Philip.  Sadly, I was someone who did hold some for him, and he squelched it.  I'm sure that means nothing to him, and that is even sadder in and of itself.  To say I'm disappointed in someone in his position acting like this is an understatement.  I expected too much I guess.

I'll be content to not be involved with him, and keep my contact with anyone who is still there off of his site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on April 1, 2005, 09:49 PM
And to show how rediculous this actually is

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=profile;u=428

Greg(g) has been allowed to post here forever (even though he never did)...same goes for LJ and JoshEEE and DBB and RatRobz and all the rest of the people who have been mods there. 

I see nothing wrong anyone did there other than question some rather shady moves by a man who's intellect seems to match his tact.  Ban away Phil!  It just keeps driving people here and you obviously don't realize that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 1, 2005, 09:56 PM
Quote
Greg(g) has been allowed to post here forever (even though he never did)...same goes for LJ and JoshEEE and DBB and RatRobz and all the rest of the people who have been mods there.

You know....to take that a step further, you guys have also allowed me to express my opinions freely (in threads such as this one).  When everyone is harshing on RS and I say "It's not all bad" and maybe even point out a few areas I think it excells in, I don't get banned.

That in itself is a very cool feature of this sight. Much broader freedom of expression.

Now if you guys can just start a major marketing blitz and get the masses over here, you'll be set.   ;D


P.S.  I am counting down the hours to midnight madness here on the left coast.



Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on April 1, 2005, 11:07 PM
And to show how rediculous this actually is

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=profile;u=428


Did this tool actually think someone was going to take the "name" GNT?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Hemish on April 1, 2005, 11:23 PM
I hate GNT also. He's so annoying. He thinks "abit" is one word. Dumbass.

It's not???!?!?!?!!?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2005, 11:30 PM
GNT... what a guy.  Though I do think he can be annoying, I have no problems with the guy.  He has been nice to me 99.9999% of the time.  I think we had one small spat in a 4 year period... which another mod there actually settled for me.  Thanks for that - you know who you are.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on April 1, 2005, 11:54 PM
I try to use links from sites like these when going to EE and the like, so I really don't blame him for that one.

It's not as bad as spam, IMO.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 2, 2005, 03:27 AM
I think someone's trying to make a point tonight in Wuher's (http://threads.rebelscum.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&PHPSESSID=).  They're certainly having fun.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Dimetrodon on April 2, 2005, 12:05 PM
Never liked rebelscum. i used to go there when it was the only site i knew...
but then collectstarwars.com emerged... and is now glactic hunter... a superior site.. whose forums had to merge with scums... blah..
the times really do change..
or do they?
because rebelscum is still what it always was. a hive of scum and vllainy.

I'm not banned there yet.. i feel the need to cause trouble

maybe i'll post something about religion or something.

nahh...

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1111233&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1111233
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Phrubruh on April 2, 2005, 01:29 PM
Nice countdown until the moderator came and locked it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 2, 2005, 03:32 PM
I think someone's trying to make a point tonight in Wuher's (http://threads.rebelscum.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&PHPSESSID=).  They're certainly having fun.

I heard about that from Jamie, while we were standing in a Target line last night.  Bummer I missed it.  Sounds fun!   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on April 2, 2005, 06:25 PM
I think someone's trying to make a point tonight in Wuher's (http://threads.rebelscum.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&PHPSESSID=).  They're certainly having fun.

I heard about that from Jamie, while we were standing in a Target line last night.  Bummer I missed it.  Sounds fun!   :P

Wha' 'appened?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 2, 2005, 06:35 PM
I think someone's trying to make a point tonight in Wuher's (http://threads.rebelscum.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&PHPSESSID=).  They're certainly having fun.

I heard about that from Jamie, while we were standing in a Target line last night. Bummer I missed it. Sounds fun! :P

Someone opened about 30 threads titled SB RIOT: WE OWN YOU and a few other variations, whatever the hell that means.  The guy was starting threads faster than the mods could lock and delete them. 

I managed to enter the majority of the threads before they were all deleted.  Most of them had absolutely no text, just the title.  But a couple had HTML links that didn't work, unless you cut and pasted them into your address bar.  The picture was XXX-rated to say the least - I don't know if I've ever seen such a disgusting picture.   :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 2, 2005, 06:53 PM
Send me a PM describing said picture...I think I know what it was too...and possibly who did it.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 2, 2005, 07:06 PM
Did someone hire out some kind of spammer forum to spam RS? ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 2, 2005, 07:17 PM
Ok that was ****** up. No matter what that kind of picture doesn't belong anywhere, f'm freak!!! I mean to know where to get that kind of pic, you are one sick twisted son of a bitch!!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 2, 2005, 07:24 PM
Was it the ******?

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 2, 2005, 07:32 PM
I have no idea what the hell is a ******????
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on April 2, 2005, 07:33 PM
I have no idea what the hell is a ******????
No need to answer that, lets stop talking about ******s, OK
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on April 2, 2005, 07:34 PM
Text deleted...

No no guys...

Sorry Ook, I took your post away.

Let's stop talking about this now folks.

And I'm going to reiterate that I don't want people here to be involved with trouble there...  You're free to do what you want on your own time of course, but it's my opinion (and the rest of the staff here at Jedi Defender) that your best voice is to walk away if you don't want in over there rather than make attempts to be banned.

But as for this end of the topic, I want the discussion stopped (publicly) of the seemingly inappropriate photo linked to over there...  That includes descriptions, insinuation, etc.

Thanks guys/gals

JJ
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 2, 2005, 08:34 PM
I'm really curious to know if the thread that was started about the Pope passing away (which I think was yours, LJ) is going to be allowed to stay open.  Even though it is a very sad and historic (for the wrong reasons) event, I wonder if Wise is going to allow a discussion regarding a religious leader to remain active.

Oh, and in the immortal words of "The Family Circus:" NOT ME.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Dimetrodon on April 2, 2005, 09:25 PM
Was it the ******?

Kevin

you should be banned for talking about that kev.. lol

btw I was banned from scum.. but i did kinda force it on them..
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 2, 2005, 09:37 PM
I think as long as it remains a thread mourning the passing of a great man, that it should stay open. I mean Dustin said that the other one would have stayed open had their not been any arguments. And so far 2 mods have replied, including me.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Chris on April 2, 2005, 09:47 PM
Wow. All I have to say, wow.

I've been in Florida on vacation for the past week and had internet for a few days before the hotel had problems with their provider or something. Now, for something a bit more interesting... I have as well been banned from RebelScum and received the following e-mail from Philip Wise.

"Hi Chris,

As I've mentioned before to you, and it continues to be apparent, many of
your site staff just can't seem to make it a day without publically
attacking RS, the forums and the staff. This is not something I'd ever allow
and would address immediately if it was brought to my attention.

I personally don't understand why you allow this kind of behaviour, but
clearly you do.

Please inform your staff they may no longer use our forum."

Screw you Phil. I would like to say that I have never ONCE in all years of my posting at Scum, not ONCE have I ever been so much as WARNED about a comment. I have done absolutely NOTHING to warrant this. RebelScum is disgusting and I don't feel bad saying it out in the open now. Before this, I found it in poor taste on my part to openly just trash talk, but everything has come full circle and I'm not too worried.

I'm not going to stoop to levels of a site-sponsored attack against RebelScum, but please, if you feel in any way you have been mistreated, or even if you have not and just enjoy it here- TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO COME HERE. STOP POSTING OVER THERE. The only way to stop this stupid **** and get back to having fun is to not go to RebelScum. Do not endorse them. Complaining over here is great for venting, but in the end will get us nowhere. The only thing you can do is cease using RebelScum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 2, 2005, 09:52 PM
Wow. All I have to say, wow.

I've been in Florida on vacation for the past week and had internet for a few days before the hotel had problems with their provider or something. Now, for something a bit more interesting... I have as well been banned from RebelScum and received the following e-mail from Philip Wise.

"Hi Chris,

As I've mentioned before to you, and it continues to be apparent, many of
your site staff just can't seem to make it a day without publically
attacking RS, the forums and the staff. This is not something I'd ever allow
and would address immediately if it was brought to my attention.

I personally don't understand why you allow this kind of behaviour, but
clearly you do.

Please inform your staff they may no longer use our forum."

Screw you Phil. I would like to say that I have never ONCE in all years of my posting at Scum, not ONCE have I ever been so much as WARNED about a comment. I have done absolutely NOTHING to warrant this. RebelScum is disgusting and I don't feel bad saying it out in the open now. Before this, I found it in poor taste on my part to openly just trash talk, but everything has come full circle and I'm not too worried.

I'm not going to stoop to levels of a site-sponsored attack against RebelScum, but please, if you feel in any way you have been mistreated, or even if you have not and just enjoy it here- TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO COME HERE. STOP POSTING OVER THERE. The only way to stop this stupid **** and get back to having fun is to not go to RebelScum. Do not endorse them. Complaining over here is great for venting, but in the end will get us nowhere. The only thing you can do is cease using RebelScum.

I was wondering about what your status was at RS Chris, I figured it would be the same as the other guys here. 
As far as telling people about JD, last night that what I was doing at MM while standing in line.  People where asking me questions about different stuff; C3, which figures were going to be out etc.  I told them if they had online access they should check out JD.com or GH.com.  Not once did I tell them about RS.  Hopefully while in lines at C3 we can tell more people about our community here at JD.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on April 2, 2005, 10:40 PM
Alright, I refrained from making this post because I thought what's the since just stop posting over there.However, this goes to character assasination  and enough is enough. Phillip is a petty petty man pathetic and irrational. He needs to be exposed for what he is as to mirror Chris thoughts I'm making this post. This is a email I received from phillip regarding a post I made a while ago. I look at this circumstance as my vindication I know this guys an ass and he should be held accountable. I will be writing both hasbro and TRU his sponsers as to why I own't participate at his site and why I belive his site is harming the business of TRU.  Pay attention as to how quick he is to point fingers and call names.

Read from the bottom up .


Stating an opinion and stating a fact are very different things.
 
You stated information that was factually incorrect, not as your opinion, but as a given fact. I have not been unclear about this in my emails to you.
 
With the email I just got from Mike, directing me to the statement he made on March 1 at Jedi Defender, I think it's pretty clear you were quite mistaken in your post.
 
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=3830;start=msg48612#msg48612
 
Now that it's very clear that I didn't steal the forums from Mike, you will see that I had every right to be unhappy with your mudslinging.
 
Generally, I find an apology the honorable way to deal with a mistake like this.
Regards... Philip Wise
philip@rebelscum.com
http://www.rebelscum.com
http://www.theforce.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Mellar [mailto:ganddi@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 6:22 PM
To: philip@rebelscum.com
Subject: RE: you mean more than phillip robbing the BHC forums from mike. Scum is an appropriate title.


So people in your forums can not have there own Opinons? That's essentialy what your telling me.  Why your beginning to sound like our president of this great free country Why on earth would I want to post in a forum that it's own adminstrator easily upset from an "untrue statement" . There really is no need to post a final statement because according to you i won't becoming back...I haven't really been over there since the two sites merged so I'm not really losing anything. As a north Texas collector I can tell you there was a time when I enjoyed visiting your site it's unfortunate that when   a younger collector should ask me my opinion of your site, my opinion will be tainted by this incident with the admnistrator. I'll probably suggest the shop elsewhere for better content.  I stated my opinion and I'm not sorry for doing it. Best wishes. I appreciate your personal care towards this matter.

 

Regards,

Gary Mellar



>From: "Philip Wise" <philip@rebelscum.com>
>To: "'Gary Mellar'" <ganddi@hotmail.com>
>CC: <mike@galactichunter.com>
>Subject: RE: you mean more than phillip robbing the BHC forums from mike. Scum is an appropriate title.
>Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:57:47 -0500
>
>You're right. I take things like this personal. To state such a thing, even
>if true in our community, is irresponsible. Since it's untrue, which you can
>easily verify from Mike, you owe me and the forum a complete, total sincere
>apology. Which should frankly be your last post in the Rebelscum forums.
>
>You need not worry about the forum here. We're doing just fine serving the
>community.
>
>Regards... Philip Wise
>philip@rebelscum.com
>http://www.rebelscum.com <http://www.rebelscum.com/>
>http://www.theforce.net <http://www.theforce.net/>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary Mellar [mailto:ganddi@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:52 PM
>To: philip@rebelscum.com
>Cc: mike@galactichunter.com
>Subject: RE: you mean more than phillip robbing the BHC forums from mike.
>Scum is an appropriate title.
>
>
>
>Hmmm, seems like I hit a nerve. Now I see why your forums have turned into
>what they have, it starts from the top down. Phillip with all do respect
>your qucik to name call that's not a very responsible postion to take.    If
>I am the "idiot"then correct me.  I really don't think I'm missed
>informed,but you can clear things up for me just on the off chance I am. I
>can listen attentively without needless name calling. I would expect the
>same from someone of your capacity.   I do appreciate your personal
>attention.
>
>Regards,
>
>Gary Mellar

> >From: "Philip Wise" <philip@rebelscum.com>
> >To: <ganddi@hotmail.com>
> >CC: <mike@galactichunter.com>
> >Subject: you mean more than phillip robbing the BHC forums from mike. Scum
>is an appropriate title.
> >Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:28:29 -0500
> >
> >Infamy,
> >
> >You're and idiot.
> >
> >For posting crap like that.
> >
> >As Mike if he didn't leave voluntarily and leave the forums voluntarily.
> >
> >Either you don't know the truth or you are a liar, either way, the post is
> >irresponsible.
> >
> >Regards... Philip Wise
> >philip@rebelscum.com
> >http://www.rebelscum.com
> >http://www.theforce.net
> >
>
>   _____
>
>FREE pop-up blocking with the  <http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2728??PS=> new MSN
>Toolbar - get it now!
>

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Dimetrodon on April 2, 2005, 10:59 PM
more evidence. woot
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 3, 2005, 12:49 AM
You rock Chris.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on April 3, 2005, 09:07 AM
Text deleted...

No no guys...

Sorry Ook, I took your post away.

Let's stop talking about this now folks.

And I'm going to reiterate that I don't want people here to be involved with trouble there...  You're free to do what you want on your own time of course, but it's my opinion (and the rest of the staff here at Jedi Defender) that your best voice is to walk away if you don't want in over there rather than make attempts to be banned.

But as for this end of the topic, I want the discussion stopped (publicly) of the seemingly inappropriate photo linked to over there...  That includes descriptions, insinuation, etc.

Thanks guys/gals

JJ
Sorry about the overly colorful description of the aforementioned. :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 3, 2005, 04:32 PM
Not a problem Ook, it's all good now.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 4, 2005, 05:20 AM
"Hi Chris,

As I've mentioned before to you, and it continues to be apparent, many of
your site staff just can't seem to make it a day without publically
attacking RS, the forums and the staff.

I want very badly to publicly call Philip out on this bogus statement, as this is the same LYING response he gave over in the RS forums for the JD staff member's bannings.

Yes, we all know that I caused some hoopla over there by telling Jimbo to shut up and stop trolling everyone, and for going after matkatnadam for being a filthy scalper and a total idiot, but beyond that, I desperately want to see Philip's evidence (including links) as to what our other staff members have done over at Rebelscum to be considered bad behavior, or attacking RS, or in any violation of their rules whatsoever.  If I still had an account there, I'd ask him exactly that, right in their Wuher's board.  Show us the evidence supporting your claims there Philip!  ::)

Show me what jokabofe did please.  That's right, you can't, 'cause he hasn't posted over there in MONTHS.  Show me what Nataku or Jesse James did there.  Nope, nothing bad from those guys either.  Hell, show me what I did for that matter, that about 30 other Rebelscummer's didn't also do, without recourse.  Nope, once again, you can't.  Berry hasn't posted there in months either.  DSJ?  No, he's obviously done nothing.  Kneel Before Zod?  Not much there either...

The whole thing is a big line of bull**** orchestrated by Philip, who's obviously becoming extremely paranoid about JediDefender, and the fact that he's losing most of his "adult" members to here for the past couple of years.  That's all this is about - competition.  And Philip doesn't want any.  There's no proof whatsoever backing up his claims, other than a couple posts in the RS spam thread in their feedback section.  But when you consider how many people yelled at Philip for that and didn't get punished, that can't be his excuse either.  It was just him being petty, and nervous.  That's it.  He's proven what a whimp he is by not even addressing the issue with all of us who he's summarliy banned.  He just has Dustin continuously hit us with their standard form banning e-mail, with no reasons included whatsoever.  I asked them several times for reasons, and they couldn't supply me with a single one.

But the fact that I got banned about 2 minutes after I posted some crap about them here speaks volumes as to one of the real reasons.

Philip disgusts me, and as Gary has already pointed out above, has NO right to have the forums that he does.  Those were Mike's, and Philip stole the **** from him - whether it was figuratively, or literally.  But nobody should be in charge of a community full of fans and collectors, when they're no longer one themself.  Businessmen have no place running a Star Wars site, and that's all Philip is anymore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 4, 2005, 06:30 AM
Quote
He just has Dustin continuously hit us with their standard form banning e-mail, with no reasons included whatsoever.

Wow!

So should I thank Dustin for not clogging my email box then?  Because I didn't even get the courtesy of a letter, haha.  :)  I was just not allowed in one day...

I dunno Dustin from a hole in the ground to comment on the guy...  I am sure he's just "doing his job" as it were so I try not to be too hard on him.  He's perhaps just loyal to his boss...  Plus, I think it's not Dustin's job to handle Phlip's work.  It's obvious he was the one who was involved in this, made this decision, and his lack of communication is what I have no respect for.  He's old enough, and experienced enough (I'd think) to know better than that, and to handle things in a better manner more befitting a man of his age/stature.

Like I said, my biggest disappointment isn't being locked from a site I really didn't have much interest in anyway.  I learned to live w/out after 1 day, it's all good. 

My disappointment was in a man I had some respect for, who I thought better of overall, and in finding out that he wasn't anything I imagined.  I was, simply, disappointed in Philip, and that's that.  He's welcome to do as he pleases though, and I'm welcome to look at it and judge it as negative when I know I'd not have acted/reacted in the same manner. 

I too am a businessman, a Star Wars fan, and at least am a staff member (just not running the show, but Chris allows us all to have a voice as clear as his own) for a SW site that sees its own fair share of traffic daily.
 
I know what I'd have done, and I know it wouldn't have taken any pointers from my experiences at Rebelscum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 4, 2005, 12:13 PM
Kneel Before Zod?  Not much there either...

In fairness, I haven't been banned yet.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Cory Chaos on April 4, 2005, 02:24 PM
I asked to be banned, personally. Over the course of my registration there, things just never got any better. To be perfectly honest, I'm ashamed to have begged to be re-instated after the whole Vader/Hitler superimposed RS banner. It's how I felt, how I have always felt, and after reading the musings of the once reputable P. Wise, even stronger than before.

The amount of censorship, undisclosure, and utter nullification of virtually anything considered fun was just the last straw. Rebelscum apparently enjoys their status as the illuminati of Star Wars collecting boards, otherwise, they wouldn't continue to observe ludicrous standards and practices, including a hang-up that only seems to be observed by one person, in post padding.

Naturally, as my desire to collect dwindled down to zilch, I still enjoyed the company of the people I posted with for the past 4 1/2 years. They take away the only two threads of interest, for undisclosed or just really ******* stupid reasons, i.e. post padding, I'm gone. Of course, the absolute last straw was demoting Tommy without an explanation, then Dustin having the last word.

My original correlation was right on the money after all. Imagine that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 4, 2005, 02:40 PM
Kneel Before Zod?  Not much there either...

In fairness, I haven't been banned yet.

Because your local and probobly know where he lives.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Cory Chaos on April 4, 2005, 02:47 PM
Keep an eye out for Probe Droids, complete with a fishing rod, neon green shorty shorts, and a beard.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 4, 2005, 02:47 PM
In fairness, I haven't been banned yet.

Yeah, I know Rob.  Just mentioning that you're yet another JD staffer who hasn't done squat over there, as Philip has summarily suggested in his blanket response covering EVERYONE here at JD.  Just lame.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 4, 2005, 02:52 PM
Well, I think I can weigh in on this issue now. Regarding the Spam, I'm not too upset about that. What makes me dissappoint is the rude behavior by the RS staff. It's one thing to stand by your "Policy," but another to be totally unsympathetic and unappologetic. I mean, what's up with, "if you don't like it tough!?" I understand that it's part of a deal that the administation has made, and it is business, but then the forum members must be treated like customers and not told to go elsewhere. I was also dumfounded that KBZ had to explain his totally legitamate case several times and still not have it addressed. That's just goes to show you that no one takes the time to actually read posts.

If they would have handled it better, i'm sure a lot of people from this site would not have attacked RS as openly as they did. But given the administraions reaction, I don't blame anyone. Then, for the administration to just ignore the critisizm is just ignorant. Alot of people like Jessie James thoughtfully and articulately voiced their frustration and concerns. If I would have gotten such a well written post from a long time member, I would have given it serious concideration. Not "If you don't like it - tough!, oh, by the way here's the door." Dissapointing.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 4, 2005, 03:24 PM
One nice thing it seems that my PM's are being forward to my email address.  So thats nice of them.

Edit: Nevermind the person who sent the email just copied and paseted it from his pm.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 4, 2005, 04:12 PM
Welcome aboard Darth Anton!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on April 4, 2005, 04:48 PM


Philip disgusts me, and as Gary has already pointed out above, has NO right to have the forums that he does.  Those were Mike's, and Philip stole the **** from him - whether it was figuratively, or literally. 

Are you talking about TFN or am I just not in the know?   ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on April 4, 2005, 04:53 PM
Chris was referring to CollectStarWars, the Rebelscum boards were the creation of Mike Sullenger currently of GalacticHunter.  He merged his CollectStarWars site with Rebelscum in 2001-2002

http://www.rebelscum.com/hist200112.asp

You should have seen the **** forums they had before then :P  It doesn't suprise me they turned in to what they did.  Also note that there were plenty of ticked off people at the time.  There were also a fair amount of people who were both wait and see and excited.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 4, 2005, 04:56 PM


Philip disgusts me, and as Gary has already pointed out above, has NO right to have the forums that he does.  Those were Mike's, and Philip stole the **** from him - whether it was figuratively, or literally. 

Are you talking about TFN or am I just not in the know?   ???

Matt was talking about the actual Rebelscum fourms that they have now.  Those fourms were orginally part of Collectstarwars.com or the Bounth Hunter Collective, a site made by Mike S.  A few years ago the two sites merged and the Rebel Lounge (RS old Fourms) were taken down and the CSW fourms used.  A year or so after the merge Mike decided to start his new site Galatic Hunter.com.  So in the end Phillip got the fourms plus all of the members who where orignally part of CSW.  Most of these people are now over at GH.COm or here with the exception of the Vintage guys.  

Edit: Here is the old CSW site: Old CSW (http://web.archive.org/web/20020123010640/http://www.collectstarwars.com/) most of the stuff seems to not be working through. :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on April 4, 2005, 04:59 PM
This guy is still there too

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 4, 2005, 05:03 PM
No doubt.  All hail God GNT!   :P


I'd still love to know what in the hell that thing is there that Greg(g) made...   ???

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 4, 2005, 05:09 PM
"I'm God, so live with it."[/size]-Greg(g), GNT
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/GNTSistine.jpg)


Still my favorite post ever.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 4, 2005, 05:19 PM
Maybe we should run a poll on which comment was actually worse:

"I'm God, so live with it." - GNT to RS members over his inappropriate moderating tactics

- or -

"Get a life and move along." - Philip Wise to RS members over his inappropriate e-mail spamming tactics

Man, kind of a toss-up really, though I'd have to give the nod to Philip, since he's the actual owner of the site, and not just an attention seeking high school kid from Australia claiming to be 33 years old...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 4, 2005, 05:28 PM
I thought it was "deal with it" ???

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 4, 2005, 05:30 PM
Sounds like basically the same quote.

Maybe GNT and Pdubs are the same person.




I didn't realize that the big merger happened at the very end of 01' - looks like I only missed it by about 2 months...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 4, 2005, 05:32 PM
I thought it was "deal with it" ???

Kevin

Actually, that sounds about right, Kev.

Did you screw up the quote Brad?!   >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 4, 2005, 05:35 PM
Sounds like basically the same quote.

Maybe GNT and Pdubs are the same person.




I didn't realize that the big merger happened at the very end of 01' - looks like I only missed it by about 2 months...

PDub.

PDub.

PDubs and PDubsOfTheSith is a good friend of mine whom is coming to indy with me. I don't think he is GNT. In fact I know he isn't Greg(g).

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 4, 2005, 05:44 PM
It's like this...

I'm Chris Berry's best friend, and so I can say whatever I want - even if I'm wrong, which I'm not.

So live with it.

/thread closed
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 4, 2005, 05:56 PM
Okay who are the wiseguys starting all those spam threads over at the scum????

Oh and Cine, I recommened to DBB that he change the DVD thread so that it just become an official what's coming out thread that he could change and sticky it and that no one should reply. All it was up to that point was just you two saying what you bought at the store and what you could scalp at ebay, and scalping no matter what it is, sucks!!!

Besides he should never had shown you that PM it was between him and I.

As far as the movie thread, I told him straight up, that was nothing but one word replies that served no purpose, and there are plenty, even some members here that were glad it was locked. Trust me, I aint the only one glad it was locked. Now had it been a true movie review thread where people came in and gave a good review on movies they just saw, then I would never have said anything.

Anyhow since you banned yourself, if you want to continue, lets take this to PM.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 4, 2005, 06:03 PM
Okay who are the wiseguys????

You mean that spam attack that hit RS the other night, LJ?  No one that I know of, and definitely not anyone affiliated with the JD staff.  We were all camped out at Midnight Madness that whole night anyway...   ;)

But yeah, that's not necessary over there (even though I sarcastically joked that it would've been funny to see).  They've got enough crap there to deal with as it is...

If you've got an IP you wanna shoot me LJ, I could give it a whirl through the JD board here.  LMK.

- M
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 4, 2005, 06:06 PM
Why thanks Mac, going to do that right now!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on April 4, 2005, 06:21 PM
Okay who are the wiseguys starting all those spam threads over at the scum????
What are these "spam threads"?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 4, 2005, 06:27 PM
Oh no worries they're gone now. All is taken care of!!! ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 4, 2005, 06:45 PM
Hey Lady Jaye..nice to see you around again...


Can you tell me something though....do the mods ever have a say in what goes on in the Feedback and Suggestions section at RS, and did you know about the bannings/spam, or talk about it in the secret moderator forum sections?

I'd like to know if everyone working at RS was aware of the iminent changes before they happenned, or if this was a Philip/Dustin decidion. Did Dave or Curto know anything about it?

I really miss the days when Jeremy was running that section. :-\

Thanks for any answers Jaye.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Sems Fir on April 4, 2005, 07:54 PM
Not to add fuel to the fire, as I've just been watching this thread I just wanted to clarify and state that Brad was correct.  The quote is as follows:

"I'm god so live with it.... "

I should know I was there!  ;D

My response to this comment was a little farther down responding to his lack of typing skills and reads as follows:

"I stated this because in addition to your numerous comments that make you look very immature by showing you don't know what you are talking about, it shows that you don't know how to spell (regardless of how fast you type). If your such a higher being with the "god" comment at least show that you have some intelligence when you post and use this option".

Back to lurking.  ;D

Robert
www.behindthetoys.com (http://www.behindthetoys.com)
LEAD EDITOR
BLACK S. U. N.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 4, 2005, 08:17 PM
Quote
We were all camped out at Midnight Madness that whole night anyway...   

I was home...  Not that I did anything, but I was here Friday night, sadly.   :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 4, 2005, 08:34 PM
How is god these days, anyway? Did he hit lucky number 48343 yet?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darthshader on April 5, 2005, 12:17 AM
This is a very interesting thread.  8)

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: MetalJedi on April 5, 2005, 01:52 AM
"I'm God, so live with it."[/size]-Greg(g), GNT
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/GNTSistine.jpg)


Still my favorite post ever.

I feel out of my chair when I saw this. Too funny!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 5, 2005, 01:26 PM
Quote
Hello Friends,
Just wanted to let you know after a rough weekend that the Jawa Forums are now back online. So come on back and let us know how your Midnight Madness went. Thats it nothing else................What? Were you expecting a nice plug for you guys to buy all your ROTS products at Toys R Us? Nah, that would be unwise of us.
Cya there
Regards,
The Jawa Community Forums Team.
 
http://www.thejawa.com/yabbse/index.php

Now there's an email with class. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 05:55 PM
I've been banned from Rebelscum.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 5, 2005, 05:56 PM
What for? For questioning authority?

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 06:00 PM
For being a staff member here apparently.

It's a shame... I've been a member there for over 3 years without any serious incident.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 06:01 PM
I've been banned from Rebelscum.

Oh, ****!  What the hell, they just now figured it out, or what?  Was your explanation just "JediDefender", or did you just go to the forums and find out you can't log in anymore?

Man, again, that sucks Rob.  Sorry man...  :-\

**Dale starts sweating profusely**
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 06:04 PM
The message read:

Your account has been banned or locked Jedidefender.com staff


I certainly hope they intend to block all other staff members from all other sites - since I didn't do anything to warrant being banned whatsoever.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 06:06 PM
I also hope that anyone who finds this a bit absurd will tell all their friends to ditch that rat-hole and get over here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 06:13 PM
I certainly hope they intend to block all other staff members from all other sites...

Won't ever happen Rob.  The only site that Philip's concerned about is JediDefender.  I guarantee you that.

Totally bogus.  Man, he's hurting their community boards over there.  But as I've always said, he could care less.  He's said time and time again, we're all easily replaceable over there, and that there's plenty more future members out there to fill our posting voids if/when we leave.

What an *******.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 5, 2005, 06:16 PM
Some one needs to go Sheriff Bueford Pusser on that forum and clean it up. Then it wouldn't suck so much.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on April 5, 2005, 06:46 PM
Oddly enough a thread has just been started over there asking members to vote on their favorite Superman villain. Wonder who will win?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 06:48 PM
A shame that I can't go vote for General Zod.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on April 5, 2005, 06:53 PM
A shame that no one can, Dustin already deleted it  :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 06:56 PM
Oddly enough a thread has just been started over there asking members to vote on their favorite Superman villain. Wonder who will win?

Who started it?  You, J?  If so, you're probably toast over there too now...  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on April 5, 2005, 07:02 PM
Yup, I'm sure I'm a marked man now, such a shame.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 5, 2005, 08:15 PM
Jesus. Whatever you do, don't make me a staff member over here.  It's like the scarlet letter I guess.  ???

It sucks that half of the guys still around there from the days when I first registered have been banned now.....and that most of you didn't do anything.

I know one or two of you might have said something anti-Rebelscum over there (or over here), but what did Rob do? 


This Sucks.





Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 5, 2005, 08:35 PM
So what's the official list of people that have been banned from Rebelscum over complaining about the Spam we got???

I've been a member since the Bounty hunter Collective days and my amount of posting has dropped seriously since the switch to RS.  It's just getting worse and worse over there and none of the staff seems to want to do anything about it.

I'm waiting for the day that I get banned for making this post.  :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 08:58 PM
So what's the official list of people that have been banned from Rebelscum over complaining about the Spam we got???

Well, technically that has nothing to do with it really, Matt.  The reason they're giving out for the bannings is just that folks are affiliated with JediDefender here, and that's pretty much what it boils down to, as childish as that sounds.  But here's the JD staff casualties so far:

JediMAC
Jesse James
Kneel Before Zod
OCB/Scott (banned slightly before us, but still due to his JD affiliation at the time)
Nataku
jokabofe
Angry Ewok (though Brad technically got the boot awhile back)
Chris Berry
CHEWIE (temporarily banned, but they allowed him back in when they realized he wasn't actually on staff here)

Then there's an additional number of about 15 - 25 folks who threw in the towel there as well, over all the crap that's gone on this week, including Philip's now infamous "Get a life and move along" comment.  Don't recall them all enough to mention them here though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 5, 2005, 09:08 PM
Hey baggy sweater guy? ::)

ME! I threw in my towel over there, and so did JediKnight2309409238345 or whatever number.


Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 09:32 PM
Jesus. Whatever you do, don't make me a staff member over here.  It's like the scarlet letter I guess.  ???

It sucks that half of the guys still around there from the days when I first registered have been banned now.....and that most of you didn't do anything.

I know one or two of you might have said something anti-Rebelscum over there (or over here), but what did Rob do? 


This Sucks.

I did not do ANYTHING other than be on the staff here at Jedi Defender.

Please make sure everyone knows that. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 5, 2005, 09:34 PM
hmm.... I just wonder what I could do to make a point and get banned?
probably just post the above...
any ideas, let me know...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 09:35 PM
You live in Dallas right?  Just help me convince all the Dallas folks to abandon that place and scoot on over to the store reports section of Jedi Defender - that alone should be enough to get you banned, although there's not really a blaze-of-glory associated with it...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 09:48 PM
I've just been told that I've been unbanned.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 09:49 PM
Boy, very interesting development.  So now Philip/Dustin are selectively banning only certain JD staff members here, since KBZ's been let BACK in...  Most of the others never made a single peep over there (or here), so what's their reasoning with those bannings?  Quite odd.

So what the hell was the chain of thinking there?

"Rob's JD now, so ban him immediately."

"No, wait.  Rob's got over 10,000 posts here at RS.  Maybe we better keep him around..."  ::)

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 09:51 PM
I was told that it was a mistake, and that I've been around too long to be banned for someone else's actions.  Which is fair (to me at least) - I'd like to see a similar offer extended to Jesse and a few of the others. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 5, 2005, 09:53 PM
I actually live in Sherman (which is around 40 minutes up 75)... close enough for weekend excursions...

I want to really drive home a point though... hmm...

You know, if we all become 'honorary' staff I wonder how many of us would get banned.... :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2005, 09:54 PM
Before you do, keep in mind that I'm not-banned all of the sudden, so if that was your last straw - you might want to wait for another one, if you were thinking about doing something regardless, then there you have it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Vator on April 5, 2005, 09:55 PM
 ::)...that more or less sums up the recent events.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 09:57 PM
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Philip and Dustin start doing some serious backpeddling now and unbanning others, after seeing all the backlash unfold against them around the net this week.

Just not me, as I'm apparently the "someone else" Dustin's referring to... ;)

BTW, did anyone save a copy of Jason's spam complaint thread over at RS?  I see that got pulled (not surprising), and now I can't remember how badly I popped off on Philip in there.  Don't recall it being much worse than most people's responses though.  Just as fighting with Jimbo and Katmandu is pretty much completely commonplace around there for most RS'ers.  So it still basically boils down to the **** that I've said over here about them that's the reason for them being pissed off at me.  As always, lame.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 5, 2005, 10:01 PM
Quote
I was told that it was a mistake, and that I've been around too long to be banned for someone else's actions.  Which is fair (to me at least) - I'd like to see a similar offer extended to Jesse and a few of the others.

Well, I'm glad to see that they unbanned you. And you're right, there are a few other people that should probably be extended the same courtesy.  I mean, quite a few of the others on that list have been around forever too....and most of them have never done anything to deserve being banned from RS either.





Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on April 5, 2005, 10:15 PM
I was told that it was a mistake, and that I've been around too long to be banned for someone else's actions. 

Yeah, well...

Jesse James - Registered on  02/02/01 
Nataku - Registered on  04/19/01 
KBZ - Registered on  02/20/02 

So, even though both Jesse and myself have a year on you, we weren't "around too long to be banned for someone else's actions."   ::)

Of course, we don't have 10,000 posts and we also have a closer relationship with JD (and the offender) than you do Rob since you are a newer staff member.

Apparently, there's "you've been around too long" and there's "you've been around JD too long"...  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 10:17 PM
Quote
KBZ - Registered on  02/20/02

JediMAC - Registered on  02/20/02

Yep.  Makes perfect sense to me, alright.

- The Offender

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 10:22 PM
Apparently, there's "you've been around too long" and there's "you've been around JD too long"...  :P

The bigger factor is that they just realized how much **** they'd get for banning Rob from the rest of the RS members due to his popularity there, and decided it was far more worth it to be total hypocrites, than to suffer even more backlash in Philip's completely lame site war against us here at JD.  That's basically what Rob's sudden reinstatement boils down to.

I bet if Rob went quietly, he'd have not been let back in.  But the fact he mentioned his banning here, in Wuher's, and in their Dallas thread, Philip and Dustin quickly decided it'd be best to do a real quick 180 and quell the ensuing ****storm before it gained too much momentum (again)...

"Whoops.  We made a mistake!"  Ya' don't say.  Imagine that...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Chris on April 5, 2005, 10:28 PM
You can add me to the "been there long enough" list....

I registered on 03/04/01...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 5, 2005, 10:42 PM
I'm about to post... we'll see how quick this one is erased...
question- if you are banned, can you read posts, but just not reply, etc?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 5, 2005, 10:47 PM
I was told that it was a mistake, and that I've been around too long to be banned for someone else's actions.  Which is fair (to me at least) - I'd like to see a similar offer extended to Jesse and a few of the others. 

I'm not gonna count on that happening, but thank you for the sentiment, Rob.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 5, 2005, 10:47 PM
Princess, you need to clear your cookies once you are banned to view post.  That is how I saw your post right now.  Only thing is it sets your viewing to the default setting.


I think your post will be there for little while since there are no mods/admins in at the moment according to who online.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 5, 2005, 10:49 PM
Thanks Darth Kenobi... we'll see what they say...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on April 5, 2005, 10:50 PM
I've been around longer than all of you jokers and I was the first one to go.  On top of that I had posted there once in 8 months for feedback and I was not even given a reason for my banning (not that I expected one)  What a crock of two faced ****.  How can anyone take those guys with an ounce of credibility

BTW, thanks to everyone, JediDefender just had their best week EVER for posts, hits and everything.  We're glad you are here, we don't want you to move along.  Thanks :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 5, 2005, 10:52 PM
You should send PM's Princess.

To the Texas crew.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 5, 2005, 10:54 PM
Well, Kevin, where I live there aren't that many collectors, and I haven't really used RS very much at all- find it rather annoying for the most part... but I might post something in the Texas...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 5, 2005, 10:55 PM

BTW, thanks to everyone, JediDefender just had their best week EVER for posts, hits and everything.  We're glad you are here, we don't want you to move along.  Thanks :)

I was wondering what the traffic was like here since there seems to be alot of RS people sign up here.  It isn't as big as the great ISP refguees but it is slowly starting to show I think.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 6, 2005, 12:14 AM
Good luck with that Princess...

Now, am I the only one that thinks if they've banned someone, it would be smart to make it known and show their members what you can get banned for, rather then sweeping everything under the rug?

The 2 guys running the show right now, IMO, are really derailing whatever success RS had before...It seems to me that there are so many past and present mods/admins that could've handled this so much better.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 6, 2005, 12:40 AM
I certainly hope they intend to block all other staff members from all other sites...

Won't ever happen Rob.  The only site that Philip's concerned about is JediDefender.  I guarantee you that.

Totally bogus.  Man, he's hurting their community boards over there.  But as I've always said, he could care less.  He's said time and time again, we're all easily replaceable over there, and that there's plenty more future members out there to fill our posting voids if/when we leave.

What an *******.

True, but you should have no problem with RS filtering out the old members to make way for Matkatnadam (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1117572&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1117572) and Dark Kanos (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1105572&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1105572).

Did I mention Dark Kanos (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1108863&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1108863)?

With you guys gone, I'm sure RS is now the forum Philip and crew have always wanted it to be. Everyone there must be SO happy you're all gone.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on April 6, 2005, 12:42 AM
BTW, did anyone save a copy of Jason's spam complaint thread over at RS?  I see that got pulled (not surprising), and now I can't remember how badly I popped off on Philip in there.  Don't recall it being much worse than most people's responses though.  Just as fighting with Jimbo and Katmandu is pretty much completely commonplace around there for most RS'ers.  So it still basically boils down to the **** that I've said over here about them that's the reason for them being pissed off at me.  As always, lame.

Well I'm not surprised the thread I started is gone. Not for it's original content of course, but it was the only evidence on the scum forums for Phil's ridiculous remark which really kicked things into high gear. But then again, by now enough people have seen it and know of it, that if there is any damage to be done from it, it's been done.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Nicklab on April 6, 2005, 01:12 AM
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I can't say that I was happy to receive this email either, and I think that the situation has been handled poorly at best. Rebelscum, like it or not, is a business. It is a website designed to attract hits and charge for advertising based on the activity and hits. Part of being a business is maintaining a good relationship with the people you do business with. I have read disturbing reports of belligerent emails from the staff to readers who have been displeased with this matter. The readers are Rebelscum's customers, and berating customers with legitimate complaints does not constitute good customer service by any measure.

I received the email in question, and also wondered why I found this in my email inbox. I registered for my account in 2002, and I do not recall being given a choice when I registered as to whether or not I could choose to receive promotional emails or not. As a rule, whenever I register at a website I prefer to keep my personal email information private and when given a choice about such matters, I opt not to receive such emails. I like so many people using the internet value my privacy.

Additionally, I heard that some of the responses from the staff of this website stated that if people did not wish to receive promotional email that they should have stated so upon registration. Looking into things from this standpoint I chose to examine my own Rebelscum profile. And what I found was peculiar. My profile showed that I had never made a choice about whether or not I wanted to receive promotional emails. As I mentioned before, had I been given the choice I would have opted not to receive such emails. This begs the question of when was this option offered to Rebelscum forum members if at all? I think that it's a legitimate question.

I for one am irked by the email, and additionally disappointed by the response. I think that at this time when the final Star Wars movie is about to be released, the collecting community needs to regard each other with respect and courtesy in order to maintain any sense of cohesion in the future. And the websites that serve that community need to respect the people they serve.

My two cents worth in Princess's thread.  I figured I would quote myself here since the thread is likely to be locked or deleted, and I want my comments to stand for some to see.

Counting down to my banning.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 6, 2005, 07:09 PM
First off, I didn't intend to make you feel like you were in the middle of things KBZ.   I'm sorry if you felt that way.
I really don't think ANYONE here said anything - that I have seen- that would be cause for banning, and for those who never said a thing regarding it- at least on RS- to be banned was just ridiculous.   There was more I could have and wanted to say, but I tried to be civil- at least it's not locked- anymore.  I just think that since KBZ was "re-reviewed" that perhaps others should be, too... not that you guys might even want to go there...
but Phillip has stuck foot in mouth again- even if by proxy...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 6, 2005, 07:15 PM
You didn't do anything wrong, I AM in the middle of it since I'm now the only one who was banned and reinstated - so I'm in a position to be able to say that with perhaps a bit more weight... who knows...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 6, 2005, 07:31 PM
The post was kind of you Princess, what with the mention and all.  I'm not expecting anything, but that was a nice thought on your part. 

Even if I'm let back in, I'm disappointed and a bit disenchanted as well.  I'll take my place again, of course, as the benefits of having access are there in my eyes, but in the span of a few days I really have grown not to care if I'm there or not as well.  Maybe I'm just too busy with my real life leading into C3.  I got a lot to get done and a short time to accomplish it, so my mind is mostly on stuff that actually has some relevance to my life...  IE: Not Rebelscum and their current "drama/outrageous reaction of the month" club. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 6, 2005, 07:51 PM
I AM in the middle of it since I'm now the only one who was banned and reinstated...

And apparently I'm right at the very head of it!  I still never got an actual explanation from either Dustin or Philip regarding my initial banning that set this whole thing off in the first place, despite several requests to them to specifically explain things.

I also find it rather laughable that it's continuously being suggested over there to e-mail Philip directly with your issues, and he'll respond to you.  Yeah, right.  Philip hasn't responded to hardly ANY of the e-mails that ANYONE's sent him regarding ANY of the various matters that have popped up over at RS this past week.  That's part of the whole problem in the first place.  He just wants the problems (and people) to go away, and doesn't want to deal with any of them.  He just has Dustin reply on his behalf, with one of their standard form e-mails.  That's it.  They're attempting to make it look like they're actually "trying" over there now (amidst some serious backpeddling due to the major fallout they've gotten), but it still appears to be very much status quo over there...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on April 6, 2005, 09:00 PM
I wish I had saved the email that Philip sent me.  He was actually pretty nice to me about it and was cool with reinstating me; it was Dustin who initially banned me and then I talked to Dan Curto about it, who told me to contact Philip.  Philip basically said in his email that they thought I was a staff member here, and that all staff from here were no longer allowed because of comments made over there, and that none of his people would ever do that over here, and that this had been going on for too long, which was why they set the ban. 

Now, I still think the way they handled it was wrong.  I think only the people that made the comments should have had something happen, and probably just a warning the first time.  But, it's not my decision and I don't even know what all was said.  But still, I don't think that the owners here would have handled things that way.

Although I don't agree with what happened, I am not going to go over there and start up anything.  I just think this whole situation should have been avoided.

If you guys haven't noticed, the customs section here has really picked up a lot.  Over there it has slowed down some.  I barely post there at all anymore, and with the increased traffic that is going on here, I am loving it more than ever here.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 6, 2005, 09:20 PM
Well..I must say I'm very proud of Dustin for telling everyone he's going to make a new attempt at the Feedback Section...That's the kind of attitude we needed at the start of this mess. :)

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 6, 2005, 09:26 PM
If you guys haven't noticed, the customs section here has really picked up a lot.  Over there it has slowed down some.  I barely post there at all anymore, and with the increased traffic that is going on here, I am loving it more than ever here.

Indeed we have, so thanks for that Justin!  8)

...Philip basically said in his email that ... all staff from here were no longer allowed because of comments made over there, and that none of his people would ever do that over here, and that this had been going on for too long, which was why they set the ban.

Yeah, that's part of my beef with this whole situation really.  I want Philip to provide a specific list of exactly what the heck he's referring to, especially related to the rest of the guys here (aside from Scott and I).  He'd be hard pressed to find a single link I bet, and that's why his lying about our entire staff badmouthing RS at RS is extremely annoying to me.  It's just that: a flat-out lie.

As for me, he could easily provide a number of links where Jimbo and I have gone at it over there, as well as my recent spat with Matkatnadam's scalping practices.  That's fine.  But those were personal issues, and nothing related to JD vs. RS.  I talked crap to those two clowns, and didn't mention anything about RS in those discussions, aside from possibly that it's rather disappointing that RS now seems to condone scalping over there.

I did take a shot at Philip later on in their Spam thread, but that's unfortunately (and obviously) been removed now, so I can't recall how bad I laid into him there, but it wasn't all that much worse than what most of the other folks were saying in the same thread - most of which weren't even affiliated with JD even.  I think I basically just reiterated that Philip doesn't give a crap about his members there as anything more than a meal ticket anymore, and that his forums are nothing but a business venture to him now, which is pretty much dead-on accurate (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1110312&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1110312).

But the RS staff is more than welcome to come over here and attempt to find something to (truthfully) nitpick us on as well.  I think they'd be fairly hard pressed to do so though, as this is a "fan site" of good buddies who all know eachother, and because we run things very differently here at JD.  But hell, who am I to say?  I'm only Numero Uno on Philip's ****list for whatever reason (most likely due to his and Dustin's constant perusal of this very thread)...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 6, 2005, 09:45 PM
Let me dumb it down for myself:

We hit a nerve. Philip saw JD as a threat. He banned everything affiliated with JD.com. He sucks.

End.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Cory Chaos on April 6, 2005, 10:14 PM
Well..I must say I'm very proud of Dustin for telling everyone he's going to make a new attempt at the Feedback Section.

You mean he's going to field questions, refrain from closing down threads that have the slightest negative connotation, and actually listen to people?  :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on April 6, 2005, 10:18 PM
Would it be wrong to print up a bunch of black armbands withRS printed on them for C3?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Cory Chaos on April 6, 2005, 10:20 PM
That's one way to make a statement. Lord knows, I'd be there with you in spirit.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 6, 2005, 10:25 PM
Would it be wrong to print up a bunch of black armbands withRS printed on them for C3?

Nope. I had the same thought at like...2 am last night.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Nicklab on April 6, 2005, 10:34 PM
Would it be wrong to print up a bunch of black armbands withRS printed on them for C3?

Be more blatant about it.  Make up t-shirts that say REBELSCUM SUCKS.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Cory Chaos on April 6, 2005, 10:40 PM
...with the S's stylized like the S.S.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on April 6, 2005, 10:40 PM
Another way Wise could make more money - Get some Livestrong bracelets, paint them blue, and print rebelscum.com on them. All the 8 year olds would eat it up with a spoon.

I better shut up, I'm giving them too many ideas!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 6, 2005, 10:41 PM
I've been a member of those Forums since June 2000 (Back from the old BHC days), and I've seen a steady decline in the quality over there.  A few over there think it's due to the influx of new members because it's a movie year.  I think the lack in quality in the forums started when they were moved from BHC to RS.  Although I'm still a member over there, and still have no intention of completely leaving (although a bunch of my friends have left/been banned I still have a lot over there), but I also felt the need to start a member ship over here instead of just lurking.

Now I applaud Dustin for coming out and saying he's going to try and do better, but the proof is in the pudding.  I made a post in the forum Princes sarted, and I'm kind of curious to see if Philip will respond, although I don't think he will.  I hope it's a wake-up call for him and he'll turn it around.  If not, I get to bug all of you over here!   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 6, 2005, 10:49 PM

Now I applaud Dustin for coming out and saying he's going to try and do better, but the proof is in the pudding.  I made a post in the forum Princes sarted, and I'm kind of curious to see if Philip will respond, although I don't think he will.  I hope it's a wake-up call for him and he'll turn it around.  If not, I get to bug all of you over here!   ;D
Even if he doesn't, you can still "bug" everyone over here  ;D
Geez, it's a lot better here than there...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on April 6, 2005, 10:56 PM
Would it be wrong to print up a bunch of black armbands withRS printed on them for C3?

Be more blatant about it.  Make up t-shirts that say REBELSCUM SUCKS.

DON'T STEAL MY MOTTO!!

(http://www.creaturecantina.com/celebs/graphics/020505oyaya.JPG)

(http://prodtn.cafepress.com/nocache/3/2057583_F_tn.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 6, 2005, 10:59 PM
That kind of stuff is very rarely funny.  Perhaps Mel Brooks pulled it off with The Producers...  But to go so far as to relate a Star Wars message board's management team, however poorly they a job they are doing, to the SS and the Nazis does a dis-service to the monumental horror of that event and the people affected by it.  And it is unfair to almost anyone, particularly people running a toy website.

I'm all for Rebelscum This or Rebelscum That shirts or whatever, but no Nazi comparissons please.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 6, 2005, 11:00 PM
Way to get that plug in there Bill - you really are the master at this.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on April 6, 2005, 11:10 PM
That kind of stuff is very rarely funny.  Perhaps Mel Brooks pulled it off with The Producers...  But to go so far as to relate a Star Wars message board's management team, however poorly they a job they are doing, to the SS and the Nazis does a dis-service to the monumental horror of that event and the people affected by it.  And it is unfair to almost anyone, particularly people running a toy website.

I'm all for Rebelscum This or Rebelscum That shirts or whatever, but no Nazi comparissons please.

Indeed, there's no relationship between a holocaust and absurd management.  Well said Zod.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on April 6, 2005, 11:17 PM
Way to get that plug in there Bill - you really are the master at this.

Did I mention we're raffling off a "Cable Original" drawing this week as part of http://CreatureCantina.com 's 4-year anniversary celebration?  I don't think I did.  I'll have to do it when I bump my art thread.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jokabofe on April 6, 2005, 11:34 PM
I especially like this quote from Dustin:

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Additionally I will not discuss certain details surrounding another members banning in this forum. If that member wants to discuss it, please PM me.

How can a banned member PM him if they have no access to their PM's?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: RenegadeJedi on April 7, 2005, 03:00 AM
Wow...I am so glad I found this thread. Your feelings toward RS brought me too tears...really. To add to problems this sight has, myself and another memebr both recieved death threats from that fat f%$% Jimbo...I notified ol Philly Wise and he says I am totally BSing Yada Yada Yada...and I got the boot.

I really think Philly's biggest problem is the line of lemmings he has kneeling at his crotch...from "My pants are chaffing me" Jimbo to all the mornic "MODS"...

JediMac...I followed your recent debate with Matklebacknbok about his scalping of his Lava Vader, is he Collecting to Collect?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 7, 2005, 03:08 AM
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Wow...I am so glad I found this thread. Your feelings toward RS brought me too tears...really. To add to problems this sight has, myself and another memebr both recieved death threats from that fat f%$% Jimbo...I notified ol Philly Wise and he says I am totally BSing Yada Yada Yada...and I got the boot.

Are you serious?

Just Screencap the PM or whatever and send it to him.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 7, 2005, 03:19 AM
Just Screencap the PM or whatever and send it to him.

Actually, how do you screencap?  Do you need particular software to do this?   :-[
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: RenegadeJedi on April 7, 2005, 03:25 AM
JK...

I did that and I got a reply from PW that basically said, "You are making false and baseless accusations blah blah blah"

He had the threats in hand (from 2 members) and essentially said we were making it up.

I know Jimbo was full of crap but never the less I e-mailed paper trails to various relatives...if it turns out Jimbo is truly a psycho PW will have law enforcment knocking at his door...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on April 7, 2005, 03:49 AM
Just Screencap the PM or whatever and send it to him.

Actually, how do you screencap?  Do you need particular software to do this?   :-[

Screencapping is rather easy if you have a PC (I don't know how to do it on a MAC). What you do is hold down the CTRL key and then press the Print Screen key. This will make a cap of everything on your screen at the time you hit the keys. Then all you have to do is run software like MS Paint or Photoshop and then select Edit from the menu bar and then Paste and you're all set. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 7, 2005, 03:58 AM
Well, holy schnikes!  It works.  Thanks Jason!   :D

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/Screen%20Capture%20copy.jpg)





And now back to our regularly scheduled thread... 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on April 7, 2005, 04:36 AM
No prob Jesse2!  ;D

Here's another helpful hint that maybe you will listen to, unlike that IE-snob JesseJames.  :P Instead of using IE, use Mozilla Firefox, you'll be glad you did.

Thus ends today's quest to get one more person away from a Microsoft product....  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 7, 2005, 05:33 AM
Don't listen to the Mozilla whore.  He'll lead you down paths of great dread and despair. :)

BTW I don't have to hit ctrl, just printscreen.  I dunno why.  I have a program to pull multiple shots from video games too for reference galleries that I never work on for FFURG.   :P

EDIT:  BTW I'm glad I wasn't the only one who laughed when I saw Dustin's quote about "if you have a problem with being banned here, PM me"....  I truly let a chuckle, partly in disbelief at what I had read, out.  I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but it made me laugh nonetheless.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on April 7, 2005, 05:44 AM
I'm not a Mozilla whore, I just believe in the use of a superior and less-buggy product. Besides, the people who help out in the Mozilla program mostly don't get paid anyways. So I guess then that would make me a ****. :P Now get back to making those caps for FFURG!  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 7, 2005, 10:26 AM
At the risk of running further off topic, I'm just going to add that I don't use Cntrl when printing-screen either.  I'm guessing it's just unncessary and certain people don't know.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Deanpaul on April 7, 2005, 10:37 AM
On the Mac side I use command-shift-3 to take a grab of the entire screen, or command-shift-4 gives me a cross-hair curser to select what part of the screen I want copied. It copies the image as a pdf to my desktop.

I would think you pc guys must have a key combination that would let you select just the portion of your screen you want to capture. Anyone know what it is?

Here is a sweet app (http://www.flyingmeat.com/flysketch/) I use for notation. Check out the "highlight and capture" movie. It's great for fast design collaboration with clients who are in a different city.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Nicklab on April 7, 2005, 10:52 AM
Would it be wrong to print up a bunch of black armbands withRS printed on them for C3?

Be more blatant about it.  Make up t-shirts that say REBELSCUM SUCKS.

DON'T STEAL MY MOTTO!!

(http://www.creaturecantina.com/celebs/graphics/020505oyaya.JPG)

(http://prodtn.cafepress.com/nocache/3/2057583_F_tn.jpg)


Meh, you stole it from Primus anyway.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on April 7, 2005, 10:54 AM
I've been banned from Rebelscum.



I'm a little late in reading this, and can't believe it.

Talk about soap opera bull **** - you've been a valued contributor to RS compared to all of the other turds over there, I can't believe that they would ditch one of their more "intelligent" members (though that's not saying much)  
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on April 7, 2005, 10:56 AM
At the risk of running further off topic, I'm just going to add that I don't use Cntrl when printing-screen either. I'm guessing it's just unncessary and certain people don't know.

And it's difficult to do if you're using two monitors without copying both screens.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on April 7, 2005, 11:28 AM
So, for those who still care about this thread and in the interest of fairness, I thought I would let y'all know that I have been unbanned at RS as of this morning.

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 7, 2005, 11:33 AM
Good!  Was it before or after I mentioned that you wouldn't be able to PM them?!? hehehe...
I trust that you are probably not the only one unbanned.... ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 7, 2005, 11:42 AM
So, for those who still care about this thread and in the interest of fairness, I thought I would let y'all know that I have been unbanned at RS as of this morning.

Jeff

So now you me and Jesse can start a new club, on the side of the banned club of banned members who were later reinstated when they somewhat came to their senses.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 7, 2005, 11:49 AM
Kind of a wild ride they're putting everyone on, eh?  ::)

Well, it's nice to see them come to their senses, and hopefully this is a sign of ending all of the bannings.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on April 7, 2005, 11:57 AM
Can I be a member of the club?  Can I, can I?

I'm not a staff member, but I was kicked out of there and then let back in.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 7, 2005, 12:39 PM
You fit the criteria, so of course.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darthshader on April 7, 2005, 01:15 PM
You guys have inspired me to spend a LOT less with Official Pix at C3. It is the best form of protest I can come up with. ;D

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jokabofe on April 7, 2005, 01:48 PM
They haven't unbanned me yet, not that I really care.  I just find it interesting that they banned me in the first place, and then skipped over me when the unbannings were handed out. Then again, I didn't ask to be unbanned, and I refuse to do so, so **** it. And them.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Mister Skeezler on April 7, 2005, 02:08 PM
What do I have to do to get banned from RS?

I mean, I haven't even gone to those forums (besides about ten minutes ago when I checked to see if I was banned) in about 6-8 months. And I can't even remember the last time I ever posted anything in there. On one hand, this is total bull****, and it proves what a gigantic ******bag Phillip Wise is. On the other hand, **** that place. Who needs to post in a place where your opinions are censored by an effeminate Australian with a god complex?

I'm over here now. No need to go back to that mental dung-heap.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on April 7, 2005, 02:12 PM
What do I have to do to get banned from RS?


That's easy, State an opinion.  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 7, 2005, 02:13 PM
Just keep talking about Philip and/or Dustin over here Ed, and you'll be banned soon enough.  Did the trick for me.  ;)

That, or you could take the more direct route like some of the others here, and slap a Jedidefender.com link in your signature over there.  Insta-ban!  :P

Or, do what Gary just suggested.  That usually works too...  ::)

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Mister Skeezler on April 7, 2005, 02:23 PM
Done and done. Its now 2:11 pm, EST. Lets see if it works.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 7, 2005, 02:30 PM
To add to problems that sight has, myself and another member both recieved death threats from that fat f%$% Jimbo...I notified ol Philly Wise and he says I am totally BSing Yada Yada Yada...and I got the boot.

Well, Jimbo is most definitely the biggest troll in SW forum history, I think most folks will agree with that, and his numerous bannings from all the top sites (JD, GH, RS x2) definitely attests to that fact.  But unfortunately, he and Philip worked out a "special arrangement" allowing Jimmy_ back into RS, after he'd already been banned there at least twice.  One of those bannings was actually due to him completely tearing Philip apart all over RS.  Ironic huh?  So the fact that Philip let a banned member back in who totally berated him all over his own RS boards, goes to show you how truly "special" their arrangement really is.  But now, due to this secret deal between those two, Jimbo has Philip's complete and total protection to do as he wishes there, as he runs all over the RS forums flaming pretty much anyone and everyone, in about every other post that he makes there.  It's pretty pathetic really - both the flaming, and Philip's condoning of it.  Not to mention Jimbo's scalping figures at his local toy shows every weekend too...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 7, 2005, 02:35 PM
Done and done. Its now 2:11 pm, EST. Lets see if it works.

You may need to go say "Hi" in this thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1117472&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1117472), Ed, lest they don't find your JD link in any recent posts...  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Mister Skeezler on April 7, 2005, 02:41 PM
I just saw this (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107972&page=5&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107972) in Wuher's.

Basically, someone asked why the Jedidefender link was removed from rebelscum. Here's Dr ******bag's answer...

Quote
The link was removed today, as well as all Jedi Defender staff were advised they could no longer use the Rebelscum forum.
This was done after constant and repeated use of our forum by some of their staff to bash Rebelscum.
Which isn't very nice, nor acceptable.
They have their own forum to do this on if they see fit.
I consider Rebelscum to be a place where friends of ours can communicate. Some of these people have abused this consideration in a manner we can no longer allow.
This is all that will be said on the subject because it doesn't deserve conversation.

Maybe it doesn't deserve conversation, because its far more important to discuss, Dr ******bag, why you sat around—like Nero playing his fiddle while Rome burned—as perfectly good forums went to ****. When people who care about a community see it being destroyed, and then all helpful criticism is met with censorship, what is left but frustration? **** this...I'm done with rebelscum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 7, 2005, 03:11 PM
Quote
This was done after constant and repeated use of our forum by some of their staff to bash Rebelscum.

Yeah, we're still having trouble figuring out exactly what Philip was referring to there, aside from a couple comments that I (alone) recently made over there.  Quite a bizarre blanket statement covering a number of people, when it was just one that made much of a stink.  Funny that.

Anyway, as with all of our previous RS "discussion" threads here at JD, I think we've gotten all of the ranting and venting out of our systems sufficiently now, so it's probably a good idea that we go ahead and finally lock this one up now, so we can get back to some of the "happier" topics and threads here at JD.

Cool?  Thanks for all your thoughts here folks.  We're always glad to offer an outlet for free speech.  ;)

'Til next time...

- Matt

P.S.  If Ed winds up achieving his goal, we'll be sure to toss an update in here for you all.  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 7, 2005, 03:48 PM
Phillip has been mum on the issue since he told everyone to piss off and get a life.

I think that's what folks really want - is to hear a decent explanation from him, and potentially an apology, however unlikely that may be, because he was out of line.  Ironically, I read somewhere along this whole thing where he was telling people that they should apologize, I think that was you Matt before you got banned, right?



EDIT:   Oops - didn't realize my new Mod privledges make it so easy to accidentally post in a locked thread.

Ta ta.
Title: Interesting RS PM...
Post by: Mister Skeezler on April 7, 2005, 05:26 PM
From Phillip Wise, or probably an automated message...

Quote
Your request has been denied for the display name LandotheScoundre'. looks funny

I have no idea what the hell he's talking about here. Did they try to ban me and **** it up?
Title: Re: Interesting RS PM...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 7, 2005, 05:31 PM
Weird... I have no idea.

Have you tried emailing him?

philip@rebelscum.com

 :P
Title: Re: Interesting RS PM...
Post by: JediMAC on April 7, 2005, 06:01 PM
P.S.  If Ed winds up achieving his goal, we'll be sure to toss an update in here for you all.  :P

Bizarre indeed, Ed.  I'm sure it has something to do with your previous post over there though...  :P

(merging your update in here too, while I'm at it)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 7, 2005, 06:06 PM
Ironically, I read somewhere along this whole thing where he was telling people that they should apologize, I think that was you Matt before you got banned, right?

Nope.  Not me.  He did finally tell Matkatnadam to publicly apologize for scalping the Lava Vader though.  But nobody ever told me anything over there.  Dustin PM'd me at one point early on and suggested that I try to ignore Jimbo, but that was the extent of it.  Philip doesn't like me, and won't speak to me, so he definitely didn't tell me to apologize to anyone for anything.  :-\

OK, back to the originally scheduled lock.  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on April 7, 2005, 06:25 PM
You're not very good at locking threads!  >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 7, 2005, 06:27 PM
Oops.  It must've unlocked when I merged Ed's update in there.  :P


Let's try this again...  **click**
Title: Update...
Post by: Mister Skeezler on April 8, 2005, 10:18 AM
An email from Philip Wise...

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LandoftheScoundrel,

Please be advised it's an impolite use of our resources to promote other sites in your posts such as the one quoted below. Please do not do it again.

Please edit your sig to remove the link to jd.com.

"If I could make a couple suggestions...

www.jedidefender.com
www.galactichunter.com

--------------------
Why you slimy, doublecrossin', no-good swindler....

www.jedidefender.com "

He must have gotten me mixed up with this "LandoftheScoundrel character.  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jokabofe on April 8, 2005, 10:47 AM
I thought this thread was locked??

Great job Matt  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 8, 2005, 10:52 AM
This thread IS locked.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on April 8, 2005, 10:54 AM
It was locked, I merged the above topic into this one. Anymore will be merged too and kept locked.  :P

You can still blame Matt though.  :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 8, 2005, 11:17 AM
Well I just wanted to post in it one last time and gloat because I can.  So bite me.

Oh, and I was unbanned at Scum but I'm taking a break, for a possibly extended period...  I figured it pertinent to update my status though, and "play fair" with that.  I was unbanned a couple days ago but too busy to get on letting anyone know.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 8, 2005, 01:49 PM
Told ya' that would work, Ed!  ;)

Well I just wanted to post in it one last time and gloat because I can.  So bite me

Yeah, me too.  I just wanted to gloat that Jimbo appears to want to sue me for calling him a troll and a scalper.  Excellent!  ;D

Hi Jimmy_!  Glad to see you're still enjoying JD, bud.  :-*

- M
Title: Rebelscum spans us again!
Post by: Phrubruh on April 10, 2005, 12:21 AM
I just got another adverisment for rebelscum about getting a free holo yoda at TRU. When will Wise learn?  >:(

Fortunately, I've spam blocked it. GMail is great for blocking spam. I filter all my email thru it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum spans us again!
Post by: CorranHorn on April 10, 2005, 12:23 AM
I just saw the message that someone else got, I have yet to receive it. However, it does actually have an opt-out message at the bottom. The question is, what happens when you opt-out, do they take you off the list, or do they remove your forums account.

update: the guy who sent me the email has sent a reply to ask to be removed from the list, time to see what the response will be. hopefully it will be the right one.
Title: Re: Rebelscum spans us again!
Post by: Phrubruh on April 10, 2005, 12:32 AM
I just sent an email telling them to remove me from the email list. We shall see.
Title: Re: Rebelscum spans us again!
Post by: Rob on April 10, 2005, 12:40 AM
Should be interesting to see if I got it at my work email on Monday - the one that they were supposed to remove from the list.

Either way, I'm going to go ahead and lock this and merge it with the other one.  If the other guys decide that they want to reopen the larger thread in light on this recent spamming, we'll do that - but until then, the word is that we're going to take a break from the rebelscum bashing.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 11, 2005, 01:23 AM
Okay - we're going to go ahead and reopen this for the time being - since there's been a new barrage of spam and complaints and potentially new angles to the conversation...

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 11, 2005, 01:40 AM
That didn't take to long for this to be reopened.    ::)

I never got the second email so at least me being removed from there means I won't get another email from that site again.  I just wish I could log in and comment on Scapler dude problem.  ANyone know his Ebay id so we can see if the second Yoda goes on it or not?

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: RenegadeJedi on April 11, 2005, 01:53 AM
Told ya' that would work, Ed!  ;)

Well I just wanted to post in it one last time and gloat because I can.  So bite me

Yeah, me too.  I just wanted to gloat that Jimbo appears to want to sue me for calling him a troll and a scalper.  Excellent!  ;D

Hi Jimmy_!  Glad to see you're still enjoying JD, bud.  :-*

- M

Where is this posted?!? I need a good laugh at that fat $#$@ expense :)_
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 11, 2005, 01:57 AM
Told ya' that would work, Ed!  ;)

Well I just wanted to post in it one last time and gloat because I can.  So bite me

Yeah, me too.  I just wanted to gloat that Jimbo appears to want to sue me for calling him a troll and a scalper.  Excellent!  ;D

Hi Jimmy_!  Glad to see you're still enjoying JD, bud.  :-*

- M

Where is this posted?!? I need a good laugh at that fat $#$@ expense :)_
Link (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1117472&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3&vc=1)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: RenegadeJedi on April 11, 2005, 02:08 AM
Thanks DK!

So I guess that means old Jimmy is a lurker here...  ::)

Enjoying your Fruity Pebbles Jim? Tell you friends, sisters, uncles half wife that works at Wal-Mart that they did most certainly get 33+ at MM!

Sorry JD...I couldn't resist...I'll stick to the topic at hand for now on.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Nicklab on April 11, 2005, 11:49 AM
I'm officially gone from the RS forums.  I was in contact with Philip, and he said that the emails were a term that had to be agreed upon to use their forums.  So, I opted for voluntary banning so that I won't get their spam.  Hell, I don't need them.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 11, 2005, 11:50 AM
Looks like all of the threads asking all those questions were just deleted and the final terms of the deal are:  Accept our spam as is or get the hell out - and don't bother asking questions, they won't be answered.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 11, 2005, 11:52 AM
I'm officially gone from the RS forums.  I was in contact with Philip, and he said that the emails were a term that had to be agreed upon to use their forums.  So, I opted for voluntary banning so that I won't get their spam.  Hell, I don't need them.

Good for you! :) I havent received this Spam, so it looks like I'm actually deleted and not banned like Dustin made it seem.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Herbert_Ackermans on April 11, 2005, 11:54 AM
Looks like all of the threads asking all those questions were just deleted and the final terms of the deal are:  Accept our spam as is or get the hell out - and don't bother asking questions, they won't be answered.

Yep, pretty much sums it up. Can anyone tell wether or not a site can enforce spam upon you as the only means to use that site/forum?

Sounds pretty absurd to me.

Also, how come that in all those years, you never ever got any of those spam-mails? Doesn't seem like RS needs them than, does it.

Anyway, I just don't care anymore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 11, 2005, 12:04 PM
It's his site, he can do whatever he wants with it - even if that means running it into the ground by alienating all of the best members.  He's still left with tons of little kids to cash in on with junk email.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on April 11, 2005, 12:05 PM
No spam for me, not on the first one, not on the second round either.  Odd?  Probably not, I think I blocked RS based emails a long time ago.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 11, 2005, 12:24 PM
I never got one or two either Morg, so I dunno what the deal may be there...  And I'm actually one who wouldn't have been terribly bothered by it either, actually, but I am more towards the opinion others are sharing at simply getting no respect over yonder.

The real problem boiled down to the poor handling of the situation between site and members.  A total lack of respect for the people that make advertising even a viable option, and that's just bad form.  It is what it is though, and it apparantly won't change either.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 11, 2005, 12:46 PM
No spam for me, not on the first one, not on the second round either.  Odd?  Probably not, I think I blocked RS based emails a long time ago.

You see, here's a guy who's done the best possible and easiest thing in the world to avoid any conflict.

That's what I don't get. I know for some people it's a matter of principal, and for others like NBZ, it was a legal issue with work, but if you don't want the e-mail, just block it, it can't be any easier. RS can't ban you for blocking it, they won't even know.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 11, 2005, 12:54 PM
The legal issue with work was one thing.  I wasn't riled up over the whole thing until Phillip started basically flipping all of his members the bird and refusing the acknowledge questions and so on.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rod on April 11, 2005, 01:06 PM
I also got the spam again...interesting thing is it came from a different e-mail...."chris@rebelscum" I think...can't remember.

I also e-mailed the opt out e-mail to be taken off their list and was told that it is part of the agreement and I coul dbe "voluntarily" banned to avoid any further e-mails.

I sent a nice response (seriously, not being sarcastic) stating my opiniona nd was replied with a civil e-mail explaining this has always been in the "user agreement" or whatever you call it. 

Oh, well...it' don't bother me that much...it's just the principle of it...and now the fact that you can't even opt out of it...that is not cool.

Oh, and for those of you keeping score ;), Yes...our favorite troll (whatever the heck that truly means) does lurk here frequently......after my initial post asking about his site, I got a nice e-mail being all tough and mean....it was hillarious....I tried to have a civil conversation with him about our differences (an offer I extend to anybody having a problem with me...no matter what has gone between us in the past) but stated if he got childish the conversation was over......needless to say, after his reply to my reply I let the issue drop.  It was just his usual childish "I am better than you" response.  Gotta admit, it is quite entertaining....LOL
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: MetalJedi on April 11, 2005, 01:21 PM
I received both emails. And proceed to put both on my spam blocker. I dont frequent RS as much as I use to anyway so if I get "banned" I guess its for the best.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 11, 2005, 01:33 PM
Well, al least the banning issue was propperly addressed by the new Spam notce that relpaced the banning discussion thread. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 11, 2005, 01:36 PM
More spam.  More feedback thread deletions.  More "Get a life and move along.  I don't give a rat's ass what you think" attitude...

You'd think that after all the bull**** over the last week that Philip would lay low for a while, or try to make some amends with his members, but alas...  Status quo there still.  Just bizarre.  Anything notable happen in that feedback thread at RS before it got summarily deleted again?  I wasn't around this weekend, so I missed out on any potentially exciting updates there.

A actually didn't get the e-mail this time though, so at least it looks like they've removed the deleted/banned members from their spam list, so I guess that's a plus (and a surprise).

I also got the spam again...interesting thing is it came from a different e-Oh, and for those of you keeping score ;), Yes...our favorite troll (whatever the heck that truly means) does lurk here frequently......after my initial post asking about his site, I got a nice e-mail being all tough and mean....it was hillarious....I tried to have a civil conversation with him about our differences (an offer I extend to anybody having a problem with me...no matter what has gone between us in the past) but stated if he got childish the conversation was over......needless to say, after his reply to my reply I let the issue drop.  It was just his usual childish "I am better than you" response.  Gotta admit, it is quite entertaining....LOL

Entertaining indeed, but after a while, they become so freaking repetitive and predictable that they just get boring and annoying.  So I stopped reading Jimbo's flood of PMs to me over there late last year.  There were at least 5 of them still unread in my PM box there at the time of my "dismissal".  I just hope that Jimmy_ was smart enough to click the "Get Read Receipt" button, to see that I stopped reading his psychobabble there.  Troll indeed, but he's apparently Philip's best friend now (which is rather fitting, and telling), so what are you gonna do...?   ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: TPU Pete on April 11, 2005, 01:45 PM
This has been an interesting read, nice to see a site like JD allow such an open discussion... well done Chris and staff for being bigger than those we are discussing.

I got the spam mail 3 times, using my former forum email address, as well as my former listserv address and another one I can't think how he got. I wasn't happy... I live in teh UK and it was totally irrelivent to me. I also was banned long ago... and interestingly enough for pointing out that site admin Jeremy was using the forums to sell pirate DVD's of the Clone Wars etc that he makes... this is against the forum rules and the law. I was banned for pointing that out... go figure. Jeremy wasn't banned. I was previously banned because I run a site that Jeremy feels is a rival and can't be mentioned on RS... TPU that is. I was told off for having the link in my signature, and even more so when I mentioned the site in my posts... it was agains the rules, never found the rules where it said that, but that was what I was told. So to have 3 emails from Philip wasn't welcome...

I don't go to RS forums that much, but I understand some got banned for objecting... jeremy said that Philip turns a death ear to complaints, and not just mine. I think that we should spend more time supporting the small sites to make them bigger and not keep putting more money into Philips bulging pockets... he doesn't care about those who visit, so don't care about him. JD, and other smaller sites do care when you drop in, and be part of the forums, send news in, help out in some way... and I think they need your support more.

I got 3 more spams... you wuld have thought Philip had learnt that wasn't positive... but hey does he care, no of course not, he's being paid by TRU! Money will be more important that visitors... Just remember when SW is no longer a major seller for any company, RS will drop it like a stone... have you noticed more and more non SW ad banners and mentions of non SW toys? It's coming...

More power to JD and other moral SW sites really run by fans!

Pete
http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ian_C on April 11, 2005, 01:53 PM
Anything notable happen in that feedback thread at RS before it got summarily deleted again

Matt Fury posted a goodbye thread, and while some of us expressed our regret, some of the newbies went on the attack about him being childish.  I got into a heated argument with a couple of them.

The feedback thread got out of control too.  I tried to plead with the mods and admins that they were going to lose the better members, keeping only the kids and post-padders, and tried to explain the issue was more about not respecting their membership than the actual email, but Phillip in his wisdom, deleted all of it.

Oh well, that's in the past, and new horizons are to be looked at here. :)

Ian
Title: SCUM + SPAM = SCAM
Post by: Blue_Harvester on April 11, 2005, 01:57 PM
I dont use any email notification of posts/replies/PMs anyway. 

For me, I think the solution is for me to just go to yahoo, and
set up a new account named

SCUMYSPAMYSCAMEE@hotmail

And just feed this back to Philip as my new email address. 

He can go to town after that!   I have the same problem as the
other guy... I cant receive this kind of email to my business address.
Problem solved !

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Pee Wee Herman on April 11, 2005, 02:02 PM
(http://www.starwars.com/community/news/2005/01/img/20050124_hamill_bg.jpg)

I saw this before, and I laughed, a lot! (http://boards.theforce.net/Your_Jedi_Council_Community/b10008/18162820/p1)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on April 11, 2005, 02:09 PM
Ian's here now! Good to see you here, you were one of the few intelligent posters left at 'Scum that hadn't abandoned ship yet.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 11, 2005, 02:24 PM
I saw this before, and I laughed, a lot! (http://boards.theforce.net/Your_Jedi_Council_Community/b10008/18162820/p1)

Holy ****, that's an interesting read.  I see Philip's upholding his same "**** you" attitude on his other site's forums.  Despite the fact that some of the TFn members were discussing how surprisingly old Philip actually is, his response to them is unbelievable, though very consistent with his Rebelscum B.S.:

Quote
Hi everybody,

I'm kind of interested to see just how many forum users post in this manner. It is surprising to me there would be so many people acting so childish in a public forum provided for your enjoyment free of charge.

What is it you hope to gain by posting in this manner? Do you think you are going to hurt my feelings? Does this make you all feel so manly because you have the bravado to post spiteful remarks anonymously like this? Geez, you have some growing up to do.

People like you do not deserve Star Wars, or at least Star Wars deserves better fans than you.

In this forum, you are an invited guest. If you can't act that way, leave. I have no desire to provide a resource for people like you.

I recommend you find another place to post, one that you don't feel the need to spit on. I don't care what you write about me or TF.N, but I do care where you do it. Spitting on me and TF.N has just ended for posters in this forum.

 :-\

Ian's here now! Good to see you here, you were one of the few intelligent posters left at 'Scum that hadn't abandoned ship yet.

I wholeheartedly concur.  Nice to have you aboard finally, Ian!  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 11, 2005, 03:35 PM
HAH! That thread's great. I love seeing people kick Wise in the face. If it didn't insult him he wouldn't have mentioned not being insulted. So that means it did. I'm sure one day he's going to lose it and then finally the Star Wars web community can be wholesome again. He talked about people not "deserving" SW. ::) Gimme a break. That money hungry jerk doesn't "deserve" SW any more than the people who insult him. I really have no positive feelings for that man.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 11, 2005, 03:37 PM

Matt Fury posted a goodbye thread, and while some of us expressed our regret, some of the newbies went on the attack about him being childish.  I got into a heated argument with a couple of them.


I went to check to see who had posted into that thread today and was shocked that it was deleted, along with the one going on in the feedback thread.  I had put a lot of thought into that goodbye, since I had been in there for five years, and didn't want it to turn into some sort of flame war.

I replied to the banning e-mail and told Philip that I didn't appreciate it being deleted, he could've just had it locked.  Oh well, he can run his little fiefdom into the ground for all I care.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 11, 2005, 07:38 PM
You didn't miss much Matt...  Jedilerious went on about not understanding your "thanks for the fish" tag, etc., and of course ended it with a healthy dose of "git" at the end because I guess he didn't want you over there.

To each their own...  I find it funny so many people would be so willing to let good established members walk away.  Not just the administration, but people who actually are invovled in the conversation end of the forums.  To me, the more good posters who leave, the less tolerable the community there (if you can call it a "community" anymore) becomes.

Oh well, I guess they figure for every good member lost there, they have a new GNT to step right up and post nonsense in their place.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 11, 2005, 07:42 PM
You didn't miss much Matt...  Jedilerious went on about not understanding your "thanks for the fish" tag, etc., and of course ended it with a healthy dose of "git" at the end because I guess he didn't want you over there.

Sheesh.  You had me completely confused by this Jess!  Thought you were answering my question about what I missed earlier, but I didn't recall ever mentioning fish...  :P

You need to refer to the Matts around here more distinctly, bud.  Fury's known as #11.  Here, try this (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3671.0) out, for your future reference.

Or, you can just do it like this:  Matt11  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on April 11, 2005, 07:45 PM
I actually got useful info about this spam, the Mini Lego TIE Fighter.

Still mad that I'm getting them since I'm banned at RS. >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 11, 2005, 07:57 PM
Quote
I find it funny so many people would be so willing to let good established members walk away.  Not just the administration, but people who actually are invovled in the conversation end of the forums.  To me, the more good posters who leave, the less tolerable the community there (if you can call it a "community" anymore) becomes.

As much as it sucks, the fact that 10 or 20 of you guys left isn't going to do a thing to RS as a whole.

If you're wondering how the administration can tolerate it, it's simple. Most of them have no freakin CLUE who anyone over there is. When's the last time you saw Philip cruising through Wuher's or whatever?  It just doesn't happen.  Sure a lot of the members will miss those who quit in protest, and maybe even some moderators too....but most people barely felt a tremor in the force. Sad really.

I remember last year when I heard Philip fired a bunch of moderators at TFN, and all the people thought it was the end of that site. These days, a lot of people don't even remember it.

So will this matter in the grand scheme?  Nah.

Hell, I introduced myself to Philip last year at Comic Con and got barely so much as a hello.  And I was on the staff back then.  ;D


Who it will matter to is people like me who registered back when you guys were all "the regulars".  It means that I will just have to stop by here a little more often....and I'm happy to do that.

I've noticed the posting on this site pick up a little over the past 2 weeks and that's awesome!  It'll keep me coming back to chat, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on April 11, 2005, 08:07 PM
I just wanted to point something out that may have been lost in the more recent thread that got locked. Josheee and I think a couple of the dumbass kids from over there were asking what the big deal was, seemingly oblivious to what the problem was. So I'd like to go on record one more time to state what it was all about.

Yes it did start with me starting the initial thread on why we got the spam. I wanted clarification as to why Rebelscum would be allowed to send such messages to their member base, when no other Star Wars website or it's forums do such a thing. We got some clarification from Phil after several posts of confusion. I was good with the clarification, but then the arguing between him and others went on, ending with the oh so tactful comment he made and the fact he would not listen to any actual complaints. THIS became the issue, this became what the big deal was all about. People still had questions, yet we got no answers. Then the bannings happened, not over the e-mails, but over Phil's comments and apparently his perceptions of Jedidefender staff and members. And so that was added to the issue and we got the threads that started over the weekend. The e-mails for most, while being the impetus for the problems, was not the true problem at hand, at least not any longer. I hope everyone actually sees that.

I also find it funny, that they added a pseudo opt-out message to their second email, after we made mention of it over here. I too wonder, if it's a legitimate opt-out message under federal law, something I'll have to look into for ***** and giggles the next free moment I get.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 11, 2005, 08:13 PM
Well glad this one is open again!! I think it should never have been closed in the first place!!

It's true guys, the longstanding members leaving won't mean a thing. So many people are registering here and there, that it's not even funny. I mean it's not the thousands that have been mentioned, but a whole bunch, for one site!!

Whatever was mentioned about going through TRU might be an option, but who's going to do it??? Would they even listen???

Anyhow good luck folks!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: MetalJedi on April 11, 2005, 08:35 PM
I guess its true you do get crabby with age.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 11, 2005, 08:49 PM
Jaye, I think Corran Horn sumed it up perfectly.  It really wasn't about the e-mail.  I made that fairly clear in my farewell post that was deleted.  If the thread were I said goodbye to my friends in there that are not members here or at GH turned in to a bunch of the newer members flaming me and others....why not just lock it as was done to coutnless other threads in the past???  The reason: it's the same reason why the e-mail, and the why the bannings threads were deleted.  A lot of the older members became critical of the way Philip Wise is running the site.  I may be wrong, but it's looking like he's got a real ego problem and it's coupled with TF.N and RS making him money, and this is the last year he's going to be able to make large sums of money with these sites.  Ask a lot of the people who have been collecting what happened 20 years ago to this hobby when the prospects of new movies was gone.

I don't care what happens to RS anymore.  I will not post there and I told Philip that I no longer want to be on the mailing list (banned) and I did not appreciate my farewell to my friends there being deleted after being a member of those boaards for 5 years.  I know I'm not the end all-be all of this hobby and I do not expect a mas exodus of the RS forums because I'm not there anymore (but wow that would be cool eh?).  I'm a fan, of the films and this hobby, and after contributing to those boards for as long as I had I think it's just wrong in how they're being run.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 11, 2005, 08:50 PM

Still mad that I'm getting them since I'm banned at RS. >:(

Isn't that against the law?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 11, 2005, 09:06 PM
I have to disagree with Josh and LJ to an extent here, and again, it all boils down to the quality vs. quantity issue once again.  Yeah, having 50 or so people bail on RS the past couple weeks and heading over here to JD probably won't hurt them too much in the post quantity department, since they're likely gaining many new members right now to "replace" them with, due to the ROTS excitement.

BUT, consider the members they're in the process of losing there right now...  Guys like Darth Anton, Ian_C,  Matt_Fury, Sith Lord Chaos, ruiner, Pete_Fett, etc.  In addition to the other top notch guys they've stuck the final nail into the coffin of lately, like Jesse James, Kneel Before Zod, CHEWIE, etc...

When you look at those names listed there, it's a veritable "Who's Who" of most of the better members that were still left over there, so that's got to hurt RS's "quality" somewhat, no matter how you slice it.  If I could've hand picked some of the mature stragglers still left over there, it would've been those guys.  Plus, they're a lot of the longer standing members there too, so once again, as with the GH exodus, and the original JD exodus, RS is losing a big chunk of it's history there, and there's something to be said for history.  When some of your "top" members have only been around for a few months (and I use the term "top" very loosely), that's really pretty sad.  It'll soon be to a point where we won't even recognize anybody over there anymore, aside from Josh, LJ, and the RS staff members and mods. (excluding the vintage crew, as always)

So I'd give a little more credit to the latest RS members who have become disenfranchised with the way Philip's running things over there.  If I were still over there on a regular basis, I'd most definitely consider them a loss to the boards.  Replacing the last few quality members, with random quantity, just can't be considered a positive, or even a wash IMO.

Plus, here at JD, we're all about the personal connections that we make with our forum buddies, and becoming actual friends in the "real world", outside of these online forums.  That's why I hang out here, and a big reason why I rather despise RS.  There's no comraderie there.  How can you get to be friends with people you don't even know, and folks that may only be around for a few months before discovering there's greener grass elsewhere?  Nobody cares about anyone else there.  It's just a big, anonymous posting whorehouse at this point, practically speaking.  Heck, that's why the newbies there have no qualms about seeing some of the longerstanding members leave right now.  They don't even know who the hell they are...  ::)

If RS isn't upset to see any of them go, I can certainly say that JD is happy about having them come, that much is for sure, and I wouldn't hesitate to say that they've made our great site even better with their presence - even if Philip and the RS newbies could care less for them.  Ideally, I'd love to get every last cool and mature collector all gathered here in one place, and let RS deal with, well, all the rest.  We're well on our way to doing just that, which is perfectly fine by me.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on April 11, 2005, 09:24 PM

Still mad that I'm getting them since I'm banned at RS. >:(

Isn't that against the law?

Que?

I've been banned from RS since last June, long before the spam hit everyone's emails. Why I'm still getting them and newly banned members aren't (some here said they didn't get the second one) kind of ticks me off.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 11, 2005, 09:45 PM
Now, everyone needs to keep it down or else Lord Philip will hear us!  Don't you know how important he is?  He created INTERNET and if we don't watch our mouths, he'll ban us all from JD.com too!  He can do that, you know, because he is the most important person in the universe!  We are all just anonymous peons who would say none of this to his face!

[/sarcasm]

And on that note, I will send five dollars to the first person (with corroborating witnesses from this board) who says it to his face at C3 next week.  Extra dollar if he chases you and passes out after three feet of "running."  :D

EDIT: I would do it myself, but five dollars to have someone else to do it is easier for my broke ass to handle at this point than paying for a plane ticket and convention access.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 11, 2005, 10:03 PM
I have a Force.net polo shirt that is up for use for anyone at C3 who has a creative idea on using it... Pinatas anyone?
(and, no, I didn't buy the shirt- but it is a nice one)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 11, 2005, 10:04 PM
Matt, don't forget John Hamm who also just asked to be banned and said he might drop by.

In the end, in terms of member numbers LJ and Josh are right - but in terms of which site is wiser (no pun intended), runs smoother, and is more full of good information and devoid of morons like Matkatnadam?  You're looking at it.  Eventually, if Rebelscum's reputation means anything, the adults will go elsewhere and the inmates will continue to run the asylum.  Which works well for Phillip because all he needs to get paid is a big long email list to send junk mail out and a lot of teenagers clicking on his homepage to view the ads.  The dollars will keep rolling in.  But in terms of being the best site around - that ship sailed with the members that are ditching Rebelscum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 11, 2005, 10:10 PM
I have a Force.net polo shirt that is up for use for anyone at C3 who has a creative idea on using it... Pinatas anyone?

Pin the tail on the donkey (ass), perhaps?   :P

Matt, don't forget John Hamm who also just asked to be banned and said he might drop by.

Yeah, if John swings by here, I'd most definitely include him in that list as well...  8)

In the end, in terms of which site is ... devoid of morons like Matkatnadam?  You're looking at it.

Actually, I'll add John to my list, if you make sure to add the ridiculously obvious ommission of Jimbo to yours there, Rob!  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 11, 2005, 11:00 PM
If I can be serious for a moment, an idea that has been coming up a lot lately (in varied situations) is that of quantity vs. quality.  In this day and age, certain people/groups/websites/etc seem to put a premium on claiming that they have "over 10,000 visitors every 10 seconds" or something similarly outlandish.  The thing that comes to my mind almost immediately upon reading that is, "Sure, there were 10,000 visitors, but how long did they stay?"

I've been a so-called "visitor" to several really bizarre and esoteric websites over the years, but often times I would only be there long enough to look at the front page, realize that there was nothing there that I was interested in, or I had been linked to said page for a story, I left once I "got what I came for."  The point is that I visited the front page long enough for their great big clicker-tracker-thingamabob to catalog that I had visited the site, even though I would never return to said site in the future.

The last time I looked at RS.com's front page about a week or so ago, at least half the content was an advertisement of some sort for a site sponsor, a link to an article at TFN or another offsite source (usually Hasbro or SW.com), or some short, vague byline for a news story which more or less consisted of unsubstantiated speculation (OMG EARLY BIRD LOLZ).  There was very little of substance on the front page that could not be gotten (and in more depth, I might add) from JD.com, GH.com, or so on and so forth.  JD's front page has (and this is an unconfirmed empirical observation here) about 1/10th the daily postings that RS.com does, but at least 10 times the actual content that RS.com's updates do. 

RS, going back to my original comparison, has increasingly put quantity over quality.  It's easy to say "We post 10 updates every day at the least" when at least nine of them are "Pay 20 bucks for a figure you'll see everywhere for 5 in two months right now through our sponsors in Abu-Dhabi so we can get a kickback!"  Whenever JD or GH or some others post an update on the news page, I can be reasonably sure it is something that will interest me and I don't have to wade through ads or C2 Ventures autograph scams to get to the information.

Same thing goes for the RS.com forums: I'd much rather be here, which is relatively smaller, for the intimacy that comes with the smaller size and visibility, as the conversation is more personal and everyone (my random posts about whimsical actions at C3 aside) usually maintains a level of maturity.  JD might not get 15000 posts a day, but if JD got that, I can be more or less guaranteed that the majority would be worth reading.  At RS, people post just to (metaphorically) hear the sounds of their own voices.  For us (at least for the ones who don't work on the site itself), JD is something we come to in order to escape from reality for a moment; a lot of the people on the RS forums (GNT) seem like they live there.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that I'd rather be here than there, for the reasons I (and many others before me) have outlined above.  And even though it's not the thread to say it, thank you to Chris and the staff for making this site available to us. 

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: MetalJedi on April 11, 2005, 11:06 PM
Now, everyone needs to keep it down or else Lord Philip will hear us!  Don't you know how important he is?  He created INTERNET and if we don't watch our mouths, he'll ban us all from JD.com too!  He can do that, you know, because he is the most important person in the universe!  We are all just anonymous peons who would say none of this to his face!

[/sarcasm]

And on that note, I will send five dollars to the first person (with corroborating witnesses from this board) who says it to his face at C3 next week.  Extra dollar if he chases you and passes out after three feet of "running."  :D

EDIT: I would do it myself, but five dollars to have someone else to do it is easier for my broke ass to handle at this point than paying for a plane ticket and convention access.

If I was going Id do it for free.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: RenegadeJedi on April 12, 2005, 12:22 AM
The main difference between RS and JD...this page is what...35+ pages long now and NO flame wars have broken out. Josheee and LJ said there piece and instead of everyone jumping all over them they responded to in a level headed manner.

If you of you went over to RS and posted your thoughts you would be hog tied and quarted by all of Philips lackeys...

Oh and one final thought...I was really hating on PW for his actions with myself and the whole spam issue, upon seeing a recent photo of him I now realize it's not worth getting so worked up over some old geezer, life is too short to worry about idiots who...aw enoguh, Jackass is on MTV2!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2005, 12:50 AM
Renegade, the reason I don't flame LJ is because she lives near me! ;) (Just messing, Lady Jaye!)

An open mention to Mr. Wise:

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Hi everybody,

I'm kind of interested to see just how many forum users post in this manner. It is surprising to me there would be so many people acting so childish in a public forum provided for your enjoyment free of charge.

What is it you hope to gain by posting in this manner? Do you think you are going to hurt my feelings? Does this make you all feel so manly because you have the bravado to post spiteful remarks anonymously like this? Geez, you have some growing up to do.

People like you do not deserve Star Wars, or at least Star Wars deserves better fans than you.

In this forum, you are an invited guest. If you can't act that way, leave. I have no desire to provide a resource for people like you.

I recommend you find another place to post, one that you don't feel the need to spit on. I don't care what you write about me or TF.N, but I do care where you do it. Spitting on me and TF.N has just ended for posters in this forum.

1) Lets look at the fact that its a forum: A place to discuss ideas, oppinions, and thoughts on a variety of subjects.

2) It must bother you enough to merrit mention.

3) Star Wars deserves every fan it gets. You had no hand in the creation of Star Wars, so don't climb on the high horse and boast, and judge. We all made a note not to be ******** to you, in order to get answers at your other forum, but you basicly spat in our faces, collectivley, and lost a hell of a lot of good people in the process. Star Wars doesn't deserve leaches like you.

4) Spit.


Now, in other news, it's good to see so many members I wouldn't regularly see here, who are held in such high regards. I hope to get to know alot of you folks more!


Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 12, 2005, 12:57 AM
As well you shouldn't Famine, we haunt the same places, and I know what you look like!!! Watch yourself boy. ;) You know the rest!!

Anyhow, I wasn't trying to start anything, just noticing things. And you guys are completely right, we do have plenty of people joining, but how many of those will stay once the movie is over and done with?? Probably not too many. So at the same time this year, let's see who is laughing last?? I'm still at both places though!!!  ;)

Oh and I remember a couple of months ago, getting flamed left and right jsut because I became a mod, even by some of the "longstanding" and "noteworthy" members. So it might be karma boys, coming back to bite ya in the ass!!  ;D

Anyhow although I am a mod over there, I still come here, and most of you all have been welcoming!! And that is the most important part!!!

Oh and dont lock this thread up again, don't want to close minded now do we??? ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 01:28 AM
Oh and dont lock this thread up again, don't want to close minded now do we??? ;D

Closeminded?  Nah.  But after 38 or so pages of RS ranting, sometimes we get to a point where we've said our peace and should just let it go and try to discuss some more positive things.  I think we finally got to that point a few days ago, but since Philip wanted to send out even more spam, and then wanted to start deleting threads and telling folks to **** off again, we figured we'd chat about him a little more here...  ;)

Kevin, you have a camera phone?

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People like you do not deserve Star Wars, or at least Star Wars deserves better fans than you.

Ironically, I've been thinking of late that Philip doesn't deserve Star Wars anymore either, now that he's changed course so dramatically and uses it primarily as a business venture for himself anymore...  :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2005, 01:35 AM
Camera phone?

Huh? ???

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 12, 2005, 01:36 AM
So Philip...

Because you've been called out for being a jerk lately you feel no need to address the real issues?

Digging a deeper hole man...just answer the relevant questions, blow out the flames, and we can all move on.

Please man...you've done nothing to make this situation better.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2005, 01:44 AM
Now, everyone needs to keep it down or else Lord Philip will hear us!  Don't you know how important he is?  He created INTERNET and if we don't watch our mouths, he'll ban us all from JD.com too!  He can do that, you know, because he is the most important person in the universe!  We are all just anonymous peons who would say none of this to his face!

[/sarcasm]

I wont do this, but I will bring a can of Spam in my backpack and give it to his ass after I tell him that he doesn't deserve Star Wars.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on April 12, 2005, 01:47 AM
I didn't receive that second spam email, since I had myself voluntarily banned.

I kind of wish I'd have gone down in a blaze of glory now. Ah well.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 12, 2005, 01:47 AM
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I have to disagree with Josh and LJ to an extent here, and again, it all boils down to the quality vs. quantity issue once again.  Yeah, having 50 or so people bail on RS the past couple weeks and heading over here to JD probably won't hurt them too much in the post quantity department, since they're likely gaining many new members right now to "replace" them with, due to the ROTS excitement

I should be clear that I'm not arguing quantity vs. quality.  I don't think anyone is arguing that because they're two different things. What I was saying is that ultimately, this little storm will blow over, and I STILL think it's a shame it ever happened in the first place.  The emails themselves weren't worth it.


As for quality vs. Quantity:
 JD is awesome because of it's quality.  It LACKS quantity, and that's the only thing hurting it.

RS excells in the collecting aspect of things.  Sure, there are some knowledgeable collectors here, but this site can't touch RS classifieds, local SW reports, and general collecting discussion at a rapid pace.   Does that mean every post on the site is quality? Of course not. But that's the beauty of quantity. You have lots of stuff to choose from.  Here you have the same 12 guy's opinions, take them or leave them.  

In the end, Rebelscum is like Wal Mart. It has a lot of everything, and you take the good mixed with the bad.  JD is more like a corner drug store where everyone knows your name and they make an awesome milk shake.  ;D

While I am very sorry a lot of you got banned, I'm happy that I don't have to choose. I like having access to both sites.  Just like I like going to Wal Mart and wading through the hicks for my collecting needs,  then hitting the shop down the corner when I want that milk shake and conversation with the cool folks.  ;D

In a perfect world, there would always be both....and everyone would have access to them.




Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2005, 01:52 AM
In the end, Rebelscum is like Wal Mart.

Always low Prices, Always? :P

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 12, 2005, 01:53 AM
there's a slogan for ya.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 01:57 AM
Camera phone?

Huh? ???

Kevin

Take a pic of any girl stalking you through the toy aisles, ya' doof!  ::)   :P

Nice idea on the can of Spam though, Kev.  8)

And Justin, I think it's finally starting to sink in to all of us here...  Philip honestly doesn't care.  At all.  Period.  :-\

What's very strange to me though, is that Philip does appear to care that JediDefender is some kind of threat to Rebelscum since many of his longtime members have switched over to JD, to the point where he's summarily banned all of our staff members here from his boards.  But then he turns right around and says he doesn't care about any of the many top members of theirs that have moved over here.  It doesn't really add up, and his flip-flopping on this issue is quite confusing to me, to be honest.  He's upset that his members are coming over here, but at the same time, he's said he could care less that they're leaving RS.  Go figure...  ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2005, 02:00 AM
HE FLIP FLOPS ON ISSUES MORE THAN JOHN KERRY! (ZING!) :-*

Anyway, now I get what your saying Matt. You have to be a bit clearer with me at 2 am. Busy day and I'm tired.

You need to get on AIM more often man.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 02:04 AM
In the end, Rebelscum is like Wal Mart. It has a lot of everything, and you take the good mixed with the bad.  JD is more like a corner drug store where everyone knows your name and they make an awesome milk shake.  ;D

Not a bad analogy Josh.  Not sure if it's as good as the one that Burn (Apok) gave though, a while back, which was:

GH = A mellow evening at a sophisticated Martini Lounge

JD = A wild night out with your buddies on a Friday night at the happening bar in town

RS = They middle school playground at recess

Or something along those lines.  Can't recall now.  Can't recall if he said that here, or at GH either.  Anyone have the link?  Good stuff from Burn though...  8)

You need to get on AIM more often man.

More often?  How 'bout never.  I haven't been on AIM in a good year or two now.  Doesn't work too well on my wife's laptop at home, and we all know where my current computer situation stands these days...   :-[
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2005, 02:08 AM
Didn't know you had a bum PC.

How about hitting the JDChat room?

(Sorry to sidetrack this thread about spam)

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Commander Cody on April 12, 2005, 02:09 AM
HE FLIP FLOPS ON ISSUES MORE THAN JOHN KERRY! (ZING!) :-*




Who's John Kerry? ??? ::) :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 02:13 AM
I'd be careful with those Kerry comments guys.  Lots of his supporters roam these parts, from what I've seen...  ;)

Didn't know you had a bum PC.

How about hitting the JDChat room?

The PC is kickass.  Just haven't hooked it up for the past year is all...  ::)

Chatroom doesn't work on the laptop either.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on April 12, 2005, 02:30 AM
I'd be careful with those Kerry comments guys.  Lots of his supporters roam these parts, from what I've seen...  ;)

For all the good it did us.  >:( ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ian_C on April 12, 2005, 03:23 AM
BUT, consider the members they're in the process of losing there right now...  Guys like Darth Anton, Ian_C,  Matt_Fury, Sith Lord Chaos, ruiner, Pete_Fett, etc.  In addition to the other top notch guys they've stuck the final nail into the coffin of lately, like Jesse James, Kneel Before Zod, CHEWIE, etc...

When you look at those names listed there, it's a veritable "Who's Who" of most of the better members that were still left over there, so that's got to hurt RS's "quality" somewhat, no matter how you slice it.  If I could've hand picked some of the mature stragglers still left over there, it would've been those guys.  

Wow, and here I was thinking that I was suffering from anonymity over there. 

I've made a decision about RS.  Despite a few posts there tonight, I'm gonna drop them.  I'll stick around their vintage section, simply because for the most part it's like a different world there.  I'll also keep checking their classifeds section, although that's not really participating as a forum member.  The rest of it, though, can stick it. 

Ian_C, aka Barada, at RS.

12-23-01 to 4-12-05

R.I.P.


May the jedilerious' and matkanadam's rule over there indefinitely.  Wise and them deserve each other.

Ian
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Herbert_Ackermans on April 12, 2005, 04:17 AM
There is something about (fan)-sites with forums that, once they start to grow, they in time reach a point where they start to crumble and buckle under their own weight.

Either that weight is actual bandwidth and traffic, or that it is that the site becomes something of an establishment, both seem to have negative effects on the creator/owner of the site.

I've sait it over at RS and I keep quoting Uncle Ben:
"With great power comes great responsibility"

In effect, being a forum-moderator is almost Godlike, as a mod has supreme power over even what people are allowed to say, and can "kill" (ban)  a member in that community.

The sheer fact PW is so oblivious to what he is doing, and the impression we have here now that he prefers morons over intelligence, fits this category.

Many times, people in command of such forums/sites, prefer the easy, numb, following herd of sheep over the few that actually have and voice their opinions.

A site is not your own little world where you can rule your own rules and ignore common decency and real world laws, morals and values.

As others have said, RS isn't going to sink due to this, as there's oodles of morons signing up daily.

But, like the Titanic, RS seems to be on course for disaster, and the cause is lack of respect and overconfidence on one's own.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 05:21 AM
Wow, and here I was thinking that I was suffering from anonymity over there.

You were, Ian.  But not over here though, where we had noticed you were one of the more upstanding members at RS quite a while back.  But like I've already said, folks over there don't care who the hell the other guys are that they're chatting with in there.  That's why that site sucks, if you're looking for any type of personal bonding, or recognition for being a decent and respectful member.  Ya' just ain't gonna get those things from RS.  You should've come over here to JD where you'd be properly appreciated long ago!

But I think you'll find things quite a bit different 'round these parts here now that you've arrived.  Even moreso since we've got some pretty kickass Canucks roaming these parts, eh.  ;)

In effect, being a forum-moderator is almost Godlike, as a mod has supreme power over even what people are allowed to say, and can "kill" (ban)  a member in that community.

Well, at some places, yeah.  Not over here though.  Our mods pretty much just blend in as average members around here.  Hell, to be honest, we rarely even have a need for moderators around here, especially since we showed Jimmy_/Jimbo the door long ago...  8)  We already banned Matkatnadam too, when he showed up briefly as "fahqmac".  Clever kid, he is...  ::)

Other than that, we'll occasionally move, or MERGE a thread (a great feature here that RS is desperately lacking), but that's about it.  When you're dealilng with mature adults, they pretty much just moderate themselves.  All too easy, really...

As for RS...  The Titanic, indeed.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on April 12, 2005, 07:34 AM
I've been reading through things, and this is just a side comment I want to make because we are seeing an influx of new membership.  First I'll say we're happy to see all the new faces, we're happy you're here, and we're hoping for bigger and better conversation.

With that said, make no mistake that "quantity" increasing over at Jedi Defender isn't going to require a decline in quality either.  We have our rules established here, and we're (dare I say) even more strict than Rebelscum...  at least in some instances anyway.

A topic discussing an issue like this goes smoothly, but we've had our share of "trolls" too, and that's something Rebelscum rarely ever touches but which Jedi Defender will act swiftly to handle.  You can ask the people that are on our "banned" list how swiftly we act to behavior we deem inappropriate...  Condescending attitudes, name-calling, and  the like has earned more than one person a swift kick in the ass out our front door, not a doubt about that.

I know I came to Jedi Defender because my friends had come here, but also because i wanted to ESCAPE the post-padding, "kiddies", arrogant, rude, and condescending people who were allowed to basically walk on other members over at Scum, or run the show over there...  So needless to say, we run a tight ship here on some level as well, and definitely are more strict in our own ways.

So did we lock this thread once?  Yes, but it's not "close-minded" as Matt mentioned, but rather it's our way of saying "move along"...  The topic had new reason to be re-opened, but if things die down again and we feel it's time for people to move onto new discussion and forget about what's in the past, then it'll get another lock...  You can't dwell on the past forever, basically.

I do hope everyone enjoys their stay here, enjoys the format, enjoys each other's company, and most of all has as much fun as they possibly can in a completely different setting.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JohnH on April 12, 2005, 10:57 AM
Add me to the list of ladies, gents and otherwise that have decided to give RS the boot.  :)  It's really too bad, as I been a part of that deal since CSW first started up, but the place has really gone downhill in the last couple of years and frankly I'm glad to be rid of it.  Aside from the friends I've made there it serves no purpose to me.  I feel confident that I can be a part of intelligent convesations here, and not have idiots like matkatanadam (or whatever his name was) telling me I'm an idiot for not appreciating George Lucas' genius prequel trilogy.

Anyway, I know who many of the mods here are, and I'm glad to be a member.

John
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Xander on April 12, 2005, 12:16 PM
This really has been a turning point.  All of the quality posters are now over here, or gone completely. I'm including Josheee too, and others who still haunt the Scum. Vintage doesn't count because that's like its own republic, and only worthwhile section now. You people are the type that kept me coming back for a good post once in a while, and real collecting analysis.

I'll still go to scum for a glance at news and vintage, but man, that Wuher's lost its way a long time ago.

I just realized something about the Spam:

1st spam came to an old email address, that I had forgotten I had removed until:

2nd spam came, and that one arrived at my currently registered email.  So the first one, as is obvious now from everyone else, was sent to an email database he's been collecting. OK.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 01:16 PM
...and not have idiots like matkatanadam (or whatever his name was) telling me I'm an idiot for not appreciating George Lucas' genius prequel trilogy.

Indeed, on both accounts.  I think I like you already, John.  Welcome to JD!  8)

- Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on April 12, 2005, 01:33 PM


As much as it sucks, the fact that 10 or 20 of you guys left isn't going to do a thing to RS as a whole.

If you're wondering how the administration can tolerate it, it's simple. Most of them have no freakin CLUE who anyone over there is. When's the last time you saw Philip cruising through Wuher's or whatever? It just doesn't happen. Sure a lot of the members will miss those who quit in protest, and maybe even some moderators too....but most people barely felt a tremor in the force. Sad really.

I remember last year when I heard Philip fired a bunch of moderators at TFN, and all the people thought it was the end of that site. These days, a lot of people don't even remember it.

So will this matter in the grand scheme? Nah.

Hell, I introduced myself to Philip last year at Comic Con and got barely so much as a hello. And I was on the staff back then. ;D


Who it will matter to is people like me who registered back when you guys were all "the regulars". It means that I will just have to stop by here a little more often....and I'm happy to do that.

I've noticed the posting on this site pick up a little over the past 2 weeks and that's awesome! It'll keep me coming back to chat, that's for sure.



That's the cool thing about JD - the staff makes an effort to get to know everybody.  I appreciate that a lot. 

That's one of the problems over at RS - PW treats it like a giant corporation and he's the big CEO.  He views the members not as people, but as little money makers.

Sending out advertisements in the form of email, reminding people everytime a new MR replica comes out to use the banner on the main page and even reposting it in the forums....

Sad that he blew you off when he met you too...considering you moderated his forums - free of charge, I assume...

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 01:39 PM
That's the cool thing about JD - the staff makes an effort to get to know everybody.  I appreciate that a lot.

So do the rest of our members, Travis!  ;)
Title: Question For Those Banned at RS
Post by: Ian_C on April 12, 2005, 01:56 PM
Never been banned at any site, so I'm curious about something.

Can you still access and read the forums, and just not participate and read PM's, or are you blocked from the forums entirely?

I'd like to just have the closure of saying a goodbye over there, even if the post would only last a couple of hours.  However, I don't want to leave the Vintage forum, which still has a number of good people, and would still like to at least see trading posts.  I know that my 'seeya' thread would probably have some criticism of Mr. Wise, and I'll probably end up banned for it.

Any help?

Ian
Title: Re: Question For The Banned
Post by: Jeff on April 12, 2005, 02:01 PM
When you are initially banned, you lose all access to the forums - the Threads, PMs, everything.  You won't have any access until you "reset" or delete your internet "cookies".

Once you go in and delete your "cookie" for RS, you would then be able to go back there and read the forums, but you just won't be able to participate/reply or use the PM feature.  If you try to log into the banned account again, it will reset your "cookie", then you'd have to repeat the "delete cookie" step to be able to see the fourms again...

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 12, 2005, 02:39 PM
I'm going to have to echo a lot of what Ruiner said, I couldn't beleive the welcome I got the day I registered. There is a sincere feeling here that your voice counts and that if you do step over the line, instead of getting flammed, you get reasonable and pointed counter view. The government should work like this. :P

And I have to say that I think the the OPT in or Get out rule is kind of silly, I mean, how many people would actually take the time to opt out? I think that RS lost just as many e-mail recipients from the bannings as they would have if they would just give us the option to Opt out and stay in. Most of those people over there are kids, they don't pay attention to that kind of thing. To be honest, I would not opt out, but it annoys me that I don't have a say in the matter if I wish to remain there as a member, and that hurts more than getting an e-mail that I can block if I wished.
Title: Re: Question For Those Banned at RS
Post by: Nicklab on April 12, 2005, 03:06 PM
Never been banned at any site, so I'm curious about something.

Can you still access and read the forums, and just not participate and read PM's, or are you blocked from the forums entirely?


I'm blocked entirely.  Can't say that it's a big deal, but I get the occassional chuckle from reading the forums.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 12, 2005, 03:38 PM
I'm actually waiting on the RS forums to figure out a way to deny direct linkage from JD in any way, shape, or form (if they haven't done so already).  Kind of like blocking an IP address, I suppose. 

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 12, 2005, 04:59 PM
All of you who have asked to be removed from the mailing list (banned), might want to check to make sure they have.  I still have not been....guess Philip thought I wouldn't check or something and he could keep sending spam.

Barada, Don't even try to post a farewell, it'll probably just get deleted.  I wasn't very critical at all, and mine was just flat out deleted.

It's really that sort of treatment that made me want to leave, not the two e-mails.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jagdohh_Fett on April 12, 2005, 05:51 PM
That's why that site sucks, if you're looking for any type of personal bonding, or recognition for being a decent and respectful member.  Ya' just ain't gonna get those things from RS.  You should've come over here to JD where you'd be properly appreciated long ago!

Hmm ... respect, recognition, appreciation. I could use some of that. :-[
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on April 12, 2005, 06:15 PM
Hmm ... respect, recognition, appreciation. I could use some of that. :-[

You'll totally get that here. All you have to do is throw out the fact that you and I live in the same town, and you'll be set. JediMAC is like a father figure to me...and now that that clown Scott is off Staff, I get along with everyone!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jagdohh_Fett on April 12, 2005, 06:26 PM
All you have to do is throw out the fact that you and I live in the same town, and you'll be set.

Appreciation by association  ;D.

I know, I know. I just don't speak my mind much, so I basically get lost in the fold.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 12, 2005, 06:31 PM
Hey JoshEEE.  I went to check again and Dustin was in the process of removing me as I was replying to your post in the Feedback thread.

Not only that....he deleted the thread as well!  Didn't Hitler and Stalin try this same course of action?????
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2005, 06:38 PM
Hmm ... respect, recognition, appreciation. I could use some of that. :-[

No worries mate, you'll get more than enough of that here. These guys are nice enough to put up with the likes of me, so it's all good. I'm very apreciative of this place.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Andy_R on April 12, 2005, 07:18 PM
Hey JoshEEE.  I went to check again and Dustin was in the process of removing me as I was replying to your post in the Feedback thread.

Not only that....he deleted the thread as well!  Didn't Hitler and Stalin try this same course of action?????

Matt, I understand you're angry with Philip and Dustin, but drawing comparisons to Hitler is really low.
The fact is, RS is their website, and they have the right to do whatever they want... just like you have the right to not visit their website.   
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 07:34 PM
Matt, I understand you're angry with Philip and Dustin, but drawing comparisons to Hitler is really low.

Yeah, I think we already covered that a few pages back when another member brought up a similar comparison.  ;)  Let's try to lay off some of those edgier political comparisons please folks...

Thanks.  :-*

- M

I'm actually waiting on the RS forums to figure out a way to deny direct linkage from JD in any way, shape, or form (if they haven't done so already).  Kind of like blocking an IP address, I suppose.

Michael, most sites have the ability to edit their language filters in a customized manner, so it'd potentially be possible for them to enter "JediDefender" as a swear word that gets edited into either the usual *****, or any other creative alternative they'd like to use in it's place.  Wouldn't be surprising to see that really...  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 12, 2005, 07:37 PM
Quote
Hey JoshEEE.  I went to check again and Dustin was in the process of removing me as I was replying to your post in the Feedback thread.

And there I was, inviting you to call me names.  Now I'll never know what you were going to say.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 12, 2005, 07:43 PM
Sorry...I really didn't mean it like that.

I just don't think his flat out deleting any posts in his forum that are even mildly critical of him or the recent actions over there is a good idea. You can't pretend something that's wrong will fix itself if you just get rid of the complaints.

Facism and Communism learned those lessons the hard way.

I wasn't trying to make a direct comparison to Hitler, however, sometimes this medium doesn't show me at my best.

BTW....I'm STILL on their lists! ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 12, 2005, 07:45 PM
Quote
Hey JoshEEE.  I went to check again and Dustin was in the process of removing me as I was replying to your post in the Feedback thread.

And there I was, inviting you to call me names.  Now I'll never know what you were going to say.  ;D

I think the only thing I'd say negative about you JoshEEE is that I disagree with your politics.  Albeit, I might do that with a little more pizazz! ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 07:50 PM
Michael, most sites have the ability to edit their language filters in a customized manner, so it'd potentially be possible for them to enter "JediDefender" as a swear word that gets edited into either the usual *****, or any other creative alternative they'd like to use in it's place.  Wouldn't be surprising to see that really...  :P

For example, I could enter "Josh" into our language filter, and have the output be "dumbass" if I wanted to, so whenever someone typed his name here, or included it in a URL, you'd just see "dumbass" instead of "Josh".  That would be rather amusing, wouldn't it?!  :P  But Josh and I are buds, and most of the time I don't really think he's a dumbass, so I wouldn't do that to the poor fella!  :D

Now Morgbug would be an entirely different story.  I think I'll change the word "Brent" to "old fart" here.  Now that sounds fun!  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 07:59 PM
You'll totally get that here. All you have to do is throw out the fact that you and I live in the same town, and you'll be set. JediMAC is like a father figure to me...and now that that clown Scott is off Staff, I get along with everyone!

Jagdohh, don't listen to Jamie.  He's rather insane sometimes, and knowing him won't get you in our good graces around here at all.  Just the opposite, actually.  I've been out there to Tennessee to visit him, and after that week of insanity, I'm neither inclined to be supportive of him, nor of Murfreesburough, or whatever the hell that city's called...

I'm all for Wildcats in downtown Nashville though, so if you're down with the John Deere girl there, then you'll make friends around here real fast!  8)

No worries mate, you'll get more than enough of that here. These guys are nice enough to put up with the likes of me, so it's all good.

Slow your roll there, young fella'.  We barely manage to put up with you around here Kev, at best.  But since you're a borderline former TV star, we tolerate your antics.  Don't push it though...  ;)

- M
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 12, 2005, 08:01 PM
I didn't know you could do that, you guys have some neat features over here. I also love the thread merging feature, very cool!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on April 12, 2005, 08:05 PM
Oh I'm still a TV star mate. I'm waiting for them to launch the series on DVD.

I'm hoping they do.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 12, 2005, 09:00 PM
Quote
For example, I could enter "Josh" into our language filter, and have the output be "dumbass" if I wanted to, so whenever someone typed his name here, or included it in a URL, you'd just see "dumbass" instead of "Josh".  That would be rather amusing, wouldn't it?!    But Josh and I are buds, and most of the time I don't really think he's a dumbass, so I wouldn't do that to the poor fella!

Ah...I see. Sort of like the voice dialing feature on a cell phone. You should hear some of the aliases some of my friends have.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on April 12, 2005, 09:14 PM
Ah...I see. Sort of like the voice dialing feature on a cell phone. You should hear some of the aliases some of my friends have.  ;D

You've throughly confused MAC now, he's not exactly "up to speed" on current cell phone technology.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jagdohh_Fett on April 12, 2005, 09:49 PM
I've been out there to Tennessee to visit him, and after that week of insanity, I'm neither inclined to be supportive of him, nor of Murfreesburough, or whatever the hell that city's called...

It's not THAT bad of a town ... I don't think  :'(. I've been to worse.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on April 12, 2005, 09:52 PM

Now Morgbug would be an entirely different story.  I think I'll change the word "Brent" to "old fart" here.  Now that sounds fun!  8)

See here you go again, instigating **** that really doesn't need to be there Alice.  Don't go giving me **** again in any threads for dragging it off topic, you're far worse than I am.  Assclown :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on April 12, 2005, 10:15 PM
That's it.  I'm taking your name off our C3 room Brent, and won't be giving you a key either.  Looks like your gonna be stuck in the musty, mothball smelling room with Dale and Bob now, but you should fit in there nicely, I'm sure...

And Jamie - eat me.  You know how sensitive I am over my inoperable shoephone, you jerk!  >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on April 12, 2005, 10:23 PM
I think before Hooters, you boys need to go to the bath house or something. Work out all this misdirected agression you seem to have.  :P

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Lady Jaye on April 12, 2005, 10:30 PM
Didn't know these guys were into that sort of stuff!!! I'd hate to see what's going on in that room!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on April 12, 2005, 10:31 PM
I think before Hooters, you boys need to go to the bath house or something. Work out all this misdirected agression you seem to have.  :P



I assure you, my aggression is properly and accurately directed.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Nathan on April 12, 2005, 11:50 PM
Oddly enough, I never received any spam. I feel left behind and left out. :P

And I haven't gotten banned, even though I put a JediDefender link in my sig and posted in the feedback thread that has been deleted.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Imperial Outpost on April 13, 2005, 05:37 AM
Too many random rules at RS. Didn't feel comfortable there, so I never posted. Like Pete from TPU said earlier in the topic, not only did I get 3 spam mails, but being in the UK they were no use at all. It's on my blocked senders list now.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Mister Skeezler on April 13, 2005, 10:59 AM
I just emailed the webmaster@rebelscum.com link from the RS spam to be removed from the list. Am I banned now? Its pretty ******* low to be banned for not wanting their spam. What a steaming ****-sandwich Rebelscum is.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CHEWIE on April 13, 2005, 11:09 AM
It's kind of ironic... through the actions that have taken place at RS, they have actually hurt themselves while making the site they despise stronger.  I think their plan backfired and blew up in their face.

I still wish none of this had happened though.   :-\

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on April 13, 2005, 12:07 PM
It's not THAT bad of a town ... I don't think  :'(. I've been to worse.

I haven't - when I was there I got thoroughly spooked by Judy Garland's Uncle's ghost.  No joke.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jagdohh_Fett on April 13, 2005, 12:54 PM
It's not THAT bad of a town ... I don't think  :'(. I've been to worse.

I haven't - when I was there I got thoroughly spooked by Judy Garland's Uncle's ghost.  No joke.

In Murfreesboro? Where the hell was this?
Title: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 17, 2005, 11:47 AM
Well, something strange seems to be happening over at RS. My account seems to have been deleted according to administration. It's a little frustrating because, as par for the course, I was given no explaination nor offered any suggestions as to what to do next. I was also told that I was not the only one in this boat and that there was very little that they could do.

This seemed to happen when the forum went down on Friday. Has anyone else had this happen?

What are your thoughts? Thanks.


EDIT:

WOW! I just did some more checking, every post I ever made has been removed.


staff edit:  just changing the name of this thread since it appears it has drifted far from where it started... Jeff
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 17, 2005, 12:03 PM
Well, something strange seems to be happening over at RS. My account seems to have been deleted according to administration. It's a little frustrating because, as par for the course, I was given no explaination nor offered any suggestions as to what to do next. I was also told that I was not the only one in this boat and that there was very little that they could do.

This seemed to happen when the forum went down on Friday. Has anyone else had this happen?

What are your thoughts? Thanks.


EDIT:

WOW! I just did some more checking, every post I ever made has been removed.

As a JD supporter, you have been officially declared "null and void".  You nolonger exist.  Welcome to the club.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on July 17, 2005, 12:32 PM
Deleted intentionally or deleted by accident?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on July 17, 2005, 01:30 PM
D-E-L-E-T-E-D.

Deleted. Regardless, they deleted the poor guy.

Welcome to freedom, my friend.

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on July 17, 2005, 02:19 PM
Believe it or not, there's a big difference.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 17, 2005, 02:32 PM
I think by accident. At least I hope. I just got another message from one of the Admins. He said there's no guaruntees that my account, and those likewise deleted, can be saved, but they are working on it.

Perhaps some of the tech guys around here can give me some insight. How can this happen? Is it possible that accounts are scattered accross various servers and that the server my acoount was on is down or got erased? Why would there not be a back up?

I have certainly rocked the boat a bit over there, but by no means have I warranted even a warning about anything, let alone getting completely removed. I certainly have never flamed another member nor harshly critizied the staff. In fact, I was asked to be a moderator only two months ago, so I can assume that this is an unfortunate technical issue.

But it is a bummer, my existance on RS has been totally erased. :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: DSJ™ on July 17, 2005, 02:51 PM
I would say it was an accident with the crash RS had on Friday night.

Forums Down Fixed (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=93808)

Some other members have had there past posts wiped out.

All my info is gone  (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1292822&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1292822)

Unexpected things can happen when a server issue arises.  :-\
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 17, 2005, 03:26 PM
Interesting. Those guys who also got thier existance deleted we're posting the same time as me when the server crashed.

GNT was posting as well. Wouldn't that be funny if he was wiped too. :P

BTW, thanks to KBZ and Tydirium for getting back to me last night regarding this. ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on July 17, 2005, 03:28 PM
GNT was posting as well. Wouldn't that be funny if he was wiped too. :P

That would be comedy GOLD.

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris on July 17, 2005, 05:07 PM
I don't quite understand how one member could be wiped, while others were not. The forums they use store information in one central database and unless someone manually deleted pieces of the table by accident, there is no way that certain members were deleted. I mean, I suppose a freak accident where select tables became corrupt could have happened, but I have NEVER seen or heard of that.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 06:09 PM
That's too bad. Mine still works; then again I only have 4 posts so it wouldn't be a big loss if I was deleted.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 17, 2005, 06:35 PM


GNT was posting as well. Wouldn't that be funny if he was wiped too. :P



That would be beyond classic.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Loopy_Leia on July 17, 2005, 07:25 PM
I guess sometimes that happens over at RS.  I thankfully haven't lost my account.  I knew that the forum had gone down Friday but I immediately closed the page.  I seriously doubt that had anything to do with it but who knows.  Then, I saw it had been fixed so I just figured it crashed.  Computers have a funny way of doing things with websites.  I think sometimes they are possessed. :)  I am really sorry to hear that some people's accounts got deleted :(  I know you lose the amounts of posts you had when that happens and your status.  Then, you have to re-register and re-integrate yourself back into the forums.  Bummer!!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 17, 2005, 07:53 PM
And I'm STILL banned over there so I guess they didn't lose my info.

If this had happened to GNT it would reduce that forum to about 1 meg of info.  In less than 24 hours, he'd be back to the most prolific poster on thos boards though.  :o
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 17, 2005, 08:06 PM
GNT was not effected. :P

So far, the loss count is only three, but other anomolies are have occured. For example, one guys has the date stamp of August 8th on all posts. Others can't post pictures or create post links. Perhaps there are larger issues. :-\
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JayDouble on July 17, 2005, 08:31 PM
I see my trojan is going according to plan.   :P  Sorry about the mishap Anthony.     :)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on July 17, 2005, 09:49 PM
If only a trojan could do such a thing.

But, alas, it probobly can't.

*braces for 500 posts telling him he's wrong*

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: dafoo on July 18, 2005, 02:27 AM
I've never heard of forums deleting all posts from a deleted account before.

the account is gone but all their posts just sit there
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on July 18, 2005, 04:42 AM
Their forum software has grown beyond itself and gained self-awareness, and even it realizes it should leave.   ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 18, 2005, 08:13 AM
Their forum software has grown beyond itself and gained self-awareness, and even it realizes it should leave.   ;)

God hates the other God.

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 18, 2005, 10:22 AM
So far I've heard very little from the RS Staff. When the forum goes down, I would assume everyone works like the Dickens to get things back up an running. How long should it take to figure out what happened to our files?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 18, 2005, 10:32 AM
Their forum software has grown beyond itself and gained self-awareness, and even it realizes it should leave.   ;)

God hates the other God.



Did anyone notice GNT's most recent post count? 

32,957 

 :D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 18, 2005, 12:34 PM

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So far I've heard very little from the RS Staff.

I would be amazed if any of the forum members hear anything, since none of them are advertisers on the site.   :)

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When the forum goes down, I would assume everyone works like the Dickens to get things back up an running.

Well, as Lord Wise has said about the TFN forums, he could shut them all down in a moment's notice if he wanted, so I would assume he's not all that concerned about the RS forums either.

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How long should it take to figure out what happened to our files?

Well, since RS is basically Hasbro's surrogate shill these days (when they're not shilling for their advertisers or Wise's autograph "business") this probably applies.

"We are aware that there is a great demand for the forums to return and files to be restored and we are actively seeking ways to bring the forum back to the site."

OR

"We can't discuss that right now.  But keep your eyes on rebelshill.com for the latest updates!"   ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 18, 2005, 12:40 PM
Their forum software has grown beyond itself and gained self-awareness, and even it realizes it should leave.   ;)

God hates the other God.



Did anyone notice GNT's most recent post count? 

32,957 

 :D

Hmmmm. Maybe GNT figured out a way to delete the accounts and incoporate the deleted post counts into his own. ::) ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jeff on July 18, 2005, 12:41 PM
Did anyone notice GNT's most recent post count? 

32,957 

This thread has now been added to the official thread index. 

 :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on July 18, 2005, 12:57 PM
Did anyone notice GNT's most recent post count? 

32,957 

This thread has now been added to the official thread index. 

 :P

All duplicate threads (or threads not started by his highness) will be removed from existence.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 18, 2005, 01:14 PM
To their credit, an announcement was made requesting all deleted account users to notify them and that the problem was actively being looked into. At least it seems more official, so I'll get an answer either way at some point. :P

In the meantime, perhaps it is time to unleash my alter ego "Blix" on the board and create havoc. ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on July 18, 2005, 01:43 PM

In the meantime, perhaps it is time to unleash my alter ego "Blix" on the board and create havoc. ;)

I'm assuming you're kidding since any and all information posted on this site is generally discovered by representatives of that other site.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on July 18, 2005, 01:56 PM
I don't usually go back and check over my own posts, but it seems like my account was affected strangely too.

Apparently, the tone of each of my posts has changed and now I sound like a sarcastic prick.


 ;D




Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 18, 2005, 03:56 PM

In the meantime, perhaps it is time to unleash my alter ego "Blix" on the board and create havoc. ;)

I'm assuming you're kidding since any and all information posted on this site is generally discovered by representatives of that other site.

I am certainly kidding. I'm well aware that it is possible for my true identity to get discovered, even if I wasn't stupid enough to post my intentions publicly.  :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: DSJ™ on July 19, 2005, 10:06 AM
I just checked the announcements at RS.

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Seven user accounts have been restored - I will try and get a list of names posted.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 19, 2005, 10:21 AM
My day's in the twilite zone are over, I'm back up over there, I've been completely restored. :P That was just the wierdest thing ever. I'm sure we'll not get an explaination. Thanks everyone!
Title: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Ook on August 14, 2005, 07:41 PM
I was making a reply at 2 or 3 in the morning and it never went through. I log on this evening and the place is still down? Or has it gone in and out all day? I'm gettin' cranky, here. >:(
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Commander Cody on August 14, 2005, 07:43 PM
In and out. Why do you still go there?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Ook on August 14, 2005, 07:48 PM
In and out. Why do you still go there?

It's got a lot more traffic. There's pleny of good info and discussion to found amongst all the rubbish.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: DSJ™ on August 14, 2005, 07:49 PM
They were down earlier today then came back up for a short time. Looked very screwed up, I clicked on new posts an there was nothing showing. Server issue again by the looks of it.

People go there for reasons whether it be trading, posting or just reading the latest gossip.  :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Ook on August 14, 2005, 08:02 PM
I'm gettin' cranky, here. >:(

By here, I didn't mean JD. I just meant I'm getting cranky about it being down. A little clarification. :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 14, 2005, 08:32 PM
There is no Rebelscum.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Rob on August 14, 2005, 08:46 PM
It's got a lot more traffic. There's pleny of good info and discussion to found amongst all the rubbish.

Personally, I'd rather not have to wade through rubbish to find decent discussion.  Traffic or not.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Chris on August 14, 2005, 09:14 PM
It's got a lot more traffic.

It does?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Ook on August 14, 2005, 09:45 PM
It's got a lot more traffic.

It does?

The forum's a lot busier than this one, sure.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Chris on August 14, 2005, 09:47 PM
It's got a lot more traffic.

It does?

The forum's a lot busier than this one, sure.

I was not aware. But upon checking it out, I will agree that it is surely 'busier'. :)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: DSJ™ on August 14, 2005, 09:49 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Famine on August 14, 2005, 09:52 PM
Damned indeed.

Kevin
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Ook on August 14, 2005, 09:53 PM
I guess I know not to mention that forum any more. :D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Diddly on August 14, 2005, 10:29 PM
So...

I take it that you guys like Rebelscum?

*ducks*
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Chris on August 14, 2005, 10:38 PM
I guess I know not to mention that forum any more. :D

Don't worry. We still love you.

I just hate RebelScum.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JohnH on August 14, 2005, 11:02 PM
If it wasn't for the vintage section (vintage is all I collect) I'd have no reason to go there.  It is by far the best vintage forum out there in terms of knowledge base and traffic.  I loathe Phil Wise and would rather not support any site of his, but considering vintage is my only interest I still visit for that sole reason.  I won't touch Wuher's Cantina for many reasons (and members) that I won't get into at the moment.

John
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 14, 2005, 11:36 PM
I think most people consider the vintage community a world unto itself - it belongs in a more mature place than RS.  The vintage guys are nothing like some of the numbnuts that post in Wuher's.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: BillCable on August 14, 2005, 11:59 PM
I agree that RS is the only place for Vintage talk.  There have been efforts by various disgruntled people to move the community, but it won't budge.  It'd take something catastrophic to compel a migration at this point.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: jokabofe on August 15, 2005, 12:05 AM
It'd take something catastrophic to compel a migration at this point.

And that's just plain sad. There are so many better places they could go.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: CorranHorn on August 15, 2005, 12:44 AM
It'd take something catastrophic to compel a migration at this point.

And that's just plain sad. There are so many better places they could go.

Well, some of us here are trying to get the vintage section here going. Dale and Brent are leading the front in getting the vintage talk running. But yeah, most of the knowledge base is at RS, which is why I still go there, just to look at vintage (and the Chicago reports).
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jesse James on August 15, 2005, 01:18 AM
I don't even read the Customs area there anymore...  That used to be something I checked nightly.

Traffic or not, it's just not good anymore...  Like Rob put it, I'd rather not have to wade through the **** to find anything worth reading, and that's how I've felt for a while.

Half the modern sections are filled with yutz's asking about what ____ is worth...  Call me crazy, but as a collector that's not the kinda question that gets me to warm up to anyone.  Heard it way too much in line on 4/2.   ::)

Nothing personal with me as far as PW or whatever...  Their site (and TFN) are really just **** anymore.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 15, 2005, 07:23 AM
It's got a lot more traffic. There's pleny of good info and discussion to found amongst all the rubbish.

Personally, I'd rather not have to wade through rubbish to find decent discussion.  Traffic or not.

Seriously. Newbies are running the forums now with practically no moderation (with respect to the overwhelmed good mods over there.)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Ryan on August 15, 2005, 07:28 AM
It's got a lot more traffic. There's pleny of good info and discussion to found amongst all the rubbish.

Personally, I'd rather not have to wade through rubbish to find decent discussion.  Traffic or not.

Seriously. Newbies are running the forums now with practically no moderation (with respect to the overwhelmed good mods over there.)

Like GNT? ::)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 15, 2005, 04:50 PM
How many times must we say it....GNT is not a real person!  "He" is actually a very sophisticated virus/worm/trojan horse created by some people at MIT.

Like the gypsy moth and the love bugs of Florida, "he" escaped from the lab and has been running amok on the internet ever since.  ;)

It is a shame we can't get that vintage forum somewhere else (like here).  But alas, the hard core vintage folks are resistant to change.  :)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jesse James on August 16, 2005, 12:40 AM
A virus, a worm, or a condom I could agree with...  Sophisticated?  Hmmmm  I dunno about that.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Rob on August 16, 2005, 01:37 AM
How many times must we say it....GNT is not a real person!  "He" is actually a very sophisticated virus/worm/trojan horse created by some people at MIT.

The real problem is that he embraces that notion. 

Odd stuff...
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 16, 2005, 02:06 AM
I just checked in and was able to get on the forum. However, the front page anouncement has not been updated to reflect a properly working form. I'm afraid to log in, last time there was trouble when I was using it, I got erased.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 16, 2005, 02:14 AM
I got erased.

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0790729601.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

Phil and Arnie - good buddies?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Commander Cody on August 16, 2005, 02:37 AM
I loathe Phillip wise for being a money hungry, egotistical jerkoff.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Ook on August 16, 2005, 04:34 AM
I just checked in and was able to get on the forum. However, the front page anouncement has not been updated to reflect a properly working form. I'm afraid to log in, last time there was trouble when I was using it, I got erased.

I forgot about that. It didn't happen to me, but this time my bookmarked threads disappeared. Looks like that happened to a lot of people.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: BillCable on August 17, 2005, 12:05 AM
This keeps up and the Vintage community may not have a choice but to relocate... 
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JohnH on August 17, 2005, 12:36 AM
This keeps up and the Vintage community may not have a choice but to relocate... 

I can only hope.  :)

John
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: CHEWIE on August 17, 2005, 01:13 AM
Well, some of the customs people have moved here.  I've worked very hard at getting some of the "good" people from over there to head this way.

 We have developed an excellent customizing community here.  I don't know how much of a big deal that is to the admins here, but to me it's what Star Wars collecting has become.  I've tried to recruit good people and 99% of the time we have a lot of good discussions.

I wish more of the non-customizers here would join in more discussions with us there as well in the ever growing photonovel section.

And, I do post at Scum still some, but mostly only because of customs and there are a few good guys there that I like to keep in touch with.

 :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Commander Cody on August 17, 2005, 01:27 AM
It's still down when I try to go to it.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: CorranHorn on August 17, 2005, 01:50 AM
This keeps up and the Vintage community may not have a choice but to relocate... 

I can only hope.  :)

John

Well I'm sure the JD staff would love to see the vintage community hop on by here. I think it would be great to expand the vintage conversations here, and the big plus is no riff-raff!  ;D Pretty much everyone I have seen post in the vintage section here has been collecting for quite some time and/or isn't looking for the quick payoff, but real insight into the toys of yesteryear.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jesse James on August 17, 2005, 02:32 AM
Dale'd be on the "Riff Raff" so fast their head would spin. :)  That's his baby so he'd not let anything taint the vintage section here.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 17, 2005, 02:54 AM
I'll be honest. The only good thing about scum is the Look What I Found section which helps me and others here in Utah to know when product should arrive (roughly).
I am not into Vintage so I can't talk about that and as far as customizing, I have just started on that so I guess I can link up with Chewie and gang here.
I left RS for almost 2 years since we created our own forum for Utah collectors, and started posting for the hell of it. What I realize is that I feel sick, weird, etc because I'm a 40 year old man and forgive the term, but they are 90% kids over there, and not just in age.
Love this forum far better for reading even because at least it approaches the intellectual standards of an average human being. I just need to get more comfortable posting on the non-SW areas which is what I really love to discuss.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: MetalJedi on August 17, 2005, 06:12 AM
I think the problems that has plagued RS is foreshadowing of the future. I rarely go over there and if I do post its to laugh at the ridiculous prices or rip off artists in the classified sections.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Bob Crane on August 17, 2005, 09:59 AM
This keeps up and the Vintage community may not have a choice but to relocate... 

I can only hope.  :)

John

Well I'm sure the JD staff would love to see the vintage community hop on by here. I think it would be great to expand the vintage conversations here, and the big plus is no riff-raff!  ;D Pretty much everyone I have seen post in the vintage section here has been collecting for quite some time and/or isn't looking for the quick payoff, but real insight into the toys of yesteryear.

 >:( Is this the same RS Vinty community I’m thinking about here? Cause most of them started collecting in the 90’s- newbies. I can tell you if there was a migration of those pompous, magnificent liars to JD there would be one less member here (after getting skewered in the anus, I have zero tolerance for most of them, though certainly there’s still many decent collectors there as well) but I suppose the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few… or the one.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Scott on August 17, 2005, 10:17 AM
I suppose the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few… or the one.

(http://www.badmovies.org/tvshows/startrek/spock.jpg)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 17, 2005, 10:53 AM
I think the problems that has plagued RS is foreshadowing of the future. I rarely go over there and if I do post its to laugh at the ridiculous prices or rip off artists in the classified sections.

OMG! It's not just me! I've noticed that new trend as well and have continually reported that type of thing to the administration, but, have not gotten any responce.

As I said, the forums are now run by newbies.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Scott on August 17, 2005, 10:59 AM
This is Hilarious (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1321411&Main=1321411#Post1321411)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 17, 2005, 11:03 AM
The message on the RS forums page is that it could be down for the next 5 days with the tech guy on vacation!  I'm gonna try to hang out here more anyway (thanks for the reminder, Chewie!) because all of the other great veterans of the hobby are here.  It's true about the newbies: terrible grammar and unreliable as heck. :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Scott on August 17, 2005, 11:10 AM
Welcome back, Greg!  I see this as an opportunity to explore strange new worlds, seek out new civilizations and enter a Forum that is much less dominated by smug administrators and bizzare computer Harry Potters

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: efranks on August 17, 2005, 11:38 AM
Well, Jesse and Chewie have both tried to get me over here so, here I am.   :P

With RS down for a while I'll need to get my fix somewhere and if I can do that without endless posts of crap in the modern sections I may just stay!


   E...
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 17, 2005, 11:57 AM
Well, Jesse and Chewie have both tried to get me over here so, here I am.   :P

With RS down for a while I'll need to get my fix somewhere and if I can do that without endless posts of crap in the modern sections I may just stay!


   E...

You are most welcome here! ;)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JayDouble on August 17, 2005, 12:10 PM
This is Hilarious (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1321411&Main=1321411#Post1321411)

Very much so.  Who goes on vacation in a middle of change out?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on August 17, 2005, 01:12 PM
You know, the Rebelscum forums could be up, down, sideways or even change into a gigantic avocado, and I would have no clue except for reading it here. **** that place anyways.

I've got what I want in a forum right here.  8)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Loopy_Leia on August 17, 2005, 01:29 PM
I've noticed that Rebelscum has been going down quite a bit lately.  I hardly ever post there because it seems like there isn't anything new..at least not that I haven't already seen the last 10 times I went there.  Now that I see that it's down again and with the repair dude on vacation (who takes a vacation during a repair???)  I probably won't be going back there.  I like JD a whole lot better, anyways!!!  :)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 17, 2005, 01:46 PM
Nothing like a RS outage to pick up the traffic over here.  NOW...if the JD guys could just figure out how to get folks to stick around, maybe no one would ever go back there.  ;D

I propose a new marketing gimick:  Browser Cookies

In addition to the little cookie your computer gets remembering your board login stuff, the JD staff will personally mail a freshly baked cookie out to your house each time you visit this website.


I know I'd stop by if a cookie came in the mail each day reminding me to.  ;D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Famine on August 17, 2005, 01:47 PM
You know, the Rebelscum forums could be up, down, sideways or even change into a gigantic avocado

That would be somthing to see, now wouldn't it?

Kevin
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JediMAC on August 17, 2005, 01:48 PM
I would like the record to show that I have been noticeably silent on this issue from the get-go.  ;)  Most here are well aware of my feelings on the matter already.  I'd probably just say this is poetic justice, karma, or whatever you want to call it for their owner and lead admin consistently being total pricks to their members, and overall forum community.

Just like to reiterate, here's a couple of Philip Wise's recent nuggets of love to many of his members:

This issue is closed.  Get a life, and move along.

and more recently to the vintage crew:

I don't care what you guys think.  This is the new rule, just because I say so.  I don't need any more reason than that. (or something to that effect)

I just don't understand why Gus and the crew over at the Archive don't add their own forums to that site, maybe even an invite-only kind of thing...

Starts at the top, and the owner of RS is a major *******, who's turned into nothing more than a Star Wars businessman now, trying to bleed every red cent out of his members.  Sad, really...

But as long as we've got JD here, everything's cool.  8)

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Nothing like a RS outage to pick up the traffic over here.

According to the stats, and what we've seen, the traffic hasn't changed much at all since RS went down, actually.

NOW...if the JD guys could just figure out how to get folks to stick around, maybe no one would ever go back there. ;D

Pretty much all of the people that we want to have stick around, do stick around.  I'll reiterate this for about the millionth time, here at JD we prefer quality over quantity.  It's really that simple.  That's not some kind of excuse for us having less posts than RS.  That's just a factual statement that the posts here, in comparison to RS, are 100x more intelligent, mature, friendly, knowledgeable, respectful, etc.

But yeah, if you need massive amounts of revolving posts full of newbie and idiotic horse**** to keep you entertained, then RS is definitely the place.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Scott on August 17, 2005, 01:51 PM
Actually, the membership and posting have been steadily increasing since late last year...each month is a new record for posts, hits, etc
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 17, 2005, 01:53 PM
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According to the stats, and what we've seen, the traffic hasn't changed much at all, actually.

Here I was hoping it was going to spike things up. Give it time, the day's not over yet.


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Actually, the membership and posting have been steadily increasing since late last year...each month is a new record for posts, hits, etc

Just think how high it would go if you deployed the Browser Cookie idea?   ;)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JediMAC on August 17, 2005, 01:58 PM
Actually, the membership and posting have been steadily increasing since late last year...each month is a new record for posts, hits, etc

Yeah, I just meant that it hasn't changed dramatically (or even slightly) since RS went down, as Josh seemed to be implying there.  I edited in another blurb to the end of my post above too...
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 17, 2005, 02:13 PM
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here at JD we prefer quality over quantity.  It's really that simple.  That's not some kind of excuse for us having less posts than RS.  That's just a factual statement that the posts here, in comparison to RS, are 100x more intelligent, mature, friendly, knowledgeable, respectful, etc.

I think I should avoid ever mentioning the fact that I wish this site was "bigger", because a couple of you guys always take it as some sort of insult.   Every time I drop by I'm reminded of the quality of this site compared to some of it's counterparts out there.

Shortly afterwards, I'm reminded of the lack of quantity when I run out of new posts to read in about 2 minutes. 


So yeah, usually when a topic like this comes up and I'm prompted to comment, and 5 seconds later I always wish I never did.   I need to remember that and just shut up in the first place.   You guys think I'm knocking this place, when really I'm just wishing more people would find it. :P


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But yeah, if you need massive amounts of revolving posts full of newbie and idiotic horse**** to keep you entertained, then RS is definitely the place.

Yes...I guess both aspects  are important to me, and that's why I suppose I wish I could get them all in the same place.  RS used to be that place for me, and I still enjoy frequenting that site the most........but it's not nearly the "all day hangout" it once was.   

The interesting topics in Wuher's are getting fewer and more far between these days, and while I still believe it to be the best collecting site on the internet.......I always enjoyed the social aspect of it just as much.   These days, it's quite lacking in that department, as most of the more mature posters have moved on.

There....that was almost "bashing" Rebelscum.  is that a little better?  :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Darthshader on August 17, 2005, 02:32 PM
 8)
I only visit the props & other collectibles threads over there, and am tired of reading all the whining & complaining, or "what's so and so worth?".  You have to sift through quite a bit of garbage to get any useful info or intelligent discussion.

There are better places to spend time. That is as nice as I can be about this subject. ;D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 17, 2005, 03:04 PM

Shortly afterwards, I'm reminded of the lack of quantity when I run out of new posts to read in about 2 minutes. 


No offense, Josh, because I know you're a great guy (I wouldn't have my C3 Vader without you and Matt working together to help me out), but either I'm dumb as a post or you're a speed reader because it sure takes me longer than that to catch up on the latest action going on here. 

Yeah, we certainly do encourage quality, as Matt stated.  But we've also grown incredibly in the last year, just like Scott said.  And thankfully those members have been intelligent posters that prefer more than a 3 word response.  So to me, we've got quality and quantity.

Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 17, 2005, 03:11 PM
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but either I'm dumb as a post or you're a speed reader because it sure takes me longer than that to catch up on the latest action going on here.

I think I am guilty of being a speed reader, it's true.  ;D

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And thankfully those members have been intelligent posters that prefer more than a 3 word response.  So to me, we've got quality and quantity.

Yup.  I agree on the quality part.  I always used to like the fact that there aren't a lot of "What's your favorite cereal?" threads over here. I just have too much ADD I guess.  :)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: efranks on August 17, 2005, 03:12 PM
Interesting take, JediMAC, and I agree with the "quality over quantity" point of view.

There have been several times when newbies on RS have come into a thread, posted a bunch of crap in answer to a question and gotten snotty when called out as being wrong.  And they always point to their 2,000 posts in a month as why they aren't "newbies" and why they "know" the answers to everything.  I'd rather take the advise of someone intelligent with 50 posts in 3 years than some dickhead with 5,000 posts in 3 months...but that post count seems to be the only important thing on RS anymore.

The other thing that I dislike about RS.com is how forum members were yelling "fake" and "rumor" when GalacticHunter was breaking news on Hasbro releases for this fall.  Their argument was how could they be real because RS.com hadn't broken the news or posted on it yet.  Well, the answer is simple, I don't think RS.com really has anyone "in the know" that posts news to the front page.  Curto may be the exception, but I'll take info from Adam, Mike, Pawlus and the "Swami" over most anything RS.com posts.  And have you ever read any of the answers in the Question Mark column?  I think a prerequisite for doing a Q&A section should be someone that at least dabbles in the hobby they're writing about...

There are a lot of things I don't like about that site but they have very active forums, the vintage section is incredible and the area reports sections are great.  The checklists and photo gallery isn't bad either.  And even though the modern boards are full of a lot of tools, sometimes it's fun picking on them just to piss them off.

   E...   (who could be pissing of RS.com members lurking here...but doesn't care)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Nathan on August 17, 2005, 03:13 PM
Welcome aboard, efranks, and welcome (back?) Daigo-Bah!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/images/welcome.gif)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: sfg on August 17, 2005, 03:14 PM

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And thankfully those members have been intelligent posters that prefer more than a 3 word response.  So to me, we've got quality and quantity.

Yup.  I agree on the quality part.  I always used to like the fact that there aren't a lot of "What's your favorite cereal?" threads over here. I just have too much ADD I guess.  :)

Cap'n Crunch.

 :)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JediMAC on August 17, 2005, 03:27 PM
There....that was almost "bashing" Rebelscum.  is that a little better?  :P

Yes.  Thank you.  :-*

The bottom line is that we've got the second most active Star Wars collecting forums on the net, behind only RS, so it's not like nothing is happening over here.  We just don't get 50 posts of dribble per minute, that's all...

But yes, I'll agree that RS has got a great vintage community, and some good quality posters in the Other Collectibles and Props sections, which should go without saying, since that's where the money is, and it's usually the "older" folks who have the disposable income to dabble in such collectibles.

I do actually like Mark Hurray, who does 'Scum's Q & A though.  I've chatted with him on several occasions, and he's good people.  As for GH, yep, we definitely like those guys over there, and never question their news either.  We usually try to have JD/GH get-togethers whenever there's a convention in town that we're both frequenting.

As for checklists and image databases, we've recently been kicking some solid ass on those, as we've got some new blood that's taken over in both areas - Tydirium behind the lense, and JesseVader08 and his OCD on the checklists.  Both are vastly improved now, and I think are very much on a competitive level with much of what the other sites have to offer.

Bottom line is that when Mike split back off of RS, and made GH, 90% of the adult collecting community bailed then, or shortly thereafter, to here and/or over to GH (except the vintage gang).  No more "veterans" left over at RS anymore really.  Josh is about as "veteran" as they come there now, and he's even relatively "new" in my books.  I can probably count on one hand the number of recognizable names over there anymore.  Just a bunch of faceless, anonymous names and personalities over there, who couldn't give two ***** about eachother.  Not really a "community", I would say.  Just a giant posting machine.

And if there's one thing that's important to me in a forum, it's the community feel, where people actually know eachother, are friends with eachother, hang out together, etc.  Much more fun that way, when you're discussing stuff with your buddies, and not a bunch of anonymous people who are mostly just out for themselves...

- Matt

P.S.  Welcome to JD finally, efranks!  BTW, we'll need a "real world" name for you though, since this is first name territory 'round here.  Good to see Greg's butt back over here too!  One of the few original JD invitees that didn't stick around as much as we'd hoped...  ;)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Rob on August 17, 2005, 03:34 PM
[Shortly afterwards, I'm reminded of the lack of quantity when I run out of new posts to read in about 2 minutes. 

When you run out of new posts to read, create some new ones!   :)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: efranks on August 17, 2005, 03:42 PM
- Matt

P.S.  Welcome to JD finally, efranks!  BTW, we'll need a "real world" name for you though, since this is first name territory 'round here.  Good to see Greg's butt back over here too!  One of the few original JD invitees that didn't stick around as much as we'd hoped...  ;)

  Ah, my name is Eric Franks.  I forgot to put that in my sig.  I'll update that in a couple minutes. 

   E...
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 17, 2005, 03:43 PM
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The bottom line is that we've got the second most active Star Wars collecting forums on the net, behind only RS, so it's not like nothing is happening over here.  We just don't get 50 posts of dribble per minute, that's all...

I honestly had no idea about that.  I always figured it was TFN, RS, then maybe GH, Sir Steves after which JD and the other guys would fall into line.

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When you run out of new posts to read, create some new ones!

Like "what's your favorite cereal?"   :D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: efranks on August 17, 2005, 03:48 PM
Does anyone go to TFN anymore?  Honestly, I've been to that site maybe twice since PW took it over and overhauled the entire thing.  I think it's ugly and hard to read.  It used to be my number 1 stop for SW news that didn't relate to collecting.  Now, worthless.

I used to post on the GH forums but found that the RS forums were a little more active so I stuck there.  But GH is one of my first stops for collecting news every day.

   E...
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: hansolo_506 on August 17, 2005, 03:49 PM
CEREAL!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????

Ah....shades of Shakk-Ti.. memories....

I have posted at all three (JD,GH & RS) and have always enjoyed the more mature postings found at 2 of the 3.  And I agree with JM above...RS has just become a posting station with no salient topics.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Rob on August 17, 2005, 03:52 PM
Like "what's your favorite cereal?"   :D

How about "What's your favorite Star Wars promotional item from a cereal offer over the years?"

Mine would be Han in Stormtrooper gear.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Commander Cody on August 17, 2005, 04:13 PM
LOL! CLOSED! HAHAHA! I hope that brings everyone from there to here! That would be teh awesome!!!!
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Nathan on August 17, 2005, 04:30 PM
Does anyone go to TFN anymore?  Honestly, I've been to that site maybe twice since PW took it over and overhauled the entire thing.  I think it's ugly and hard to read.  It used to be my number 1 stop for SW news that didn't relate to collecting.  Now, worthless.

I'm honestly saddened by what's happened to TFN. Love it or hate it, it was an institution in fandom. I've done my share of TFN bashing over the years, but now it's been completely castrated--a glorified portal--partly due to Hyperspace cutting the legs out from under the spoiler "business". It's just depressing to see the "new" site. :'(

Lack of content aside, their new layout is ugly as sin. It used to be beautiful from a web design standpoint. Visually it was extremely clean and easy to read, and the navigation layout was pure, clear, and simple to use. And IMHO that layout was strangely integral to the whole TFN Mystique--they'd had it since at least TPM (when I first started visiting). Then they went and cocked it up by making it all cluttered and convoluted. It really felt like the end of an era, the last-nail-in-the-coffin type thing.  :'(

Their JC forums haven't changed much though, and I still visit them from time to time.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: MetalJedi on August 17, 2005, 04:43 PM
I laughed out loud when I checked out the so called RS store. Where you can get your SW figure cases with the RS logo embossed on the back. Now can I ask is there anyone besides GNT who would actually buy these?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Andy_R on August 17, 2005, 05:21 PM
RS has had a few technical difficulties, and there is a 5 page thread here.
Pretty good for a webisite that so many people hate. 
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JediMAC on August 17, 2005, 05:29 PM
I always figured it was TFN, RS, then maybe GH, Sir Steves after which JD and the other guys would fall into line.

I wasn't counting TFN, since that's not technically a "collecting" site, not to mention it's also owned (and abused) by Philip Wise.

But yeah, statistically, we've been the second most active collecting forums behind only RS for over a year now, by a pretty decent amount too.  So that's a big part of the reason we never understand why you often talk about how slow it is here, Josh...  ;)

RS has had a few technical difficulties, and there is a 5 page thread here.
Pretty good for a webisite that so many people hate. 

We may all hate it, but we still enjoy talking about it.  Especially since most of us originally came from there (or from CSW prior to the merge), and still harbor some anomosity towards what Philip has done to a once great community.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 17, 2005, 07:15 PM
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But yeah, statistically, we've been the second most active collecting forums behind only RS for over a year now, by a pretty decent amount too.  So that's a big part of the reason we never understand why you often talk about how slow it is here, Josh...

I stand corrected.

Where do you guys get these stats anyway?  Google Fights?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Scott on August 17, 2005, 07:20 PM
We keep track ;)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 17, 2005, 07:26 PM
I think it's great that some other "quality" posters from RS are finding there way here...even if it's because of RS technical difficulties.  I hope they stay.  I also hope the Matkatnadams and others of his ilk stay away from this site.  :-*

I also know a few of the Colorado folks are starting to frequent the store reports section and are pleasantly suprised by the registered member feature.  I think that will keep them here.  (Good folks all of them and hope to make, or host, the next barbecue).  ;D

As far as the vintage, I try to contribute what I can there (as I did in my CSW/BHC/RS days), but it's tough since I really haven't collected vintage since I was a kid...back when that's all there was!  :o
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: BillCable on August 17, 2005, 07:57 PM
But yes, I'll agree that RS has got a great vintage community, and some good quality posters in the Other Collectibles and Props sections, which should go without saying, since that's where the money is, and it's usually the "older" folks who have the disposable income to dabble in such collectibles.

I do actually like Mark Hurray, who does 'Scum's Q & A though.  I've chatted with him on several occasions, and he's good people.  As for GH, yep, we definitely like those guys over there, and never question their news either.  We usually try to have JD/GH get-togethers whenever there's a convention in town that we're both frequenting.

Yeah, but what do you think about those ******** over at http://CreatureCantina.com ?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jeff on August 17, 2005, 08:04 PM
Yeah, but what do you think about those ******** over at http://CreatureCantina.com ?

CreatureCantina.com sucks!
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JediMAC on August 17, 2005, 08:15 PM
Yeah, but what do you think about those ******** over at http://CreatureCantina.com ?

I think you already covered it - ********, every last one of 'em.  Especially that Cable clown who drew a giant dildo coming out of my Rocket Fett on an otherwise cool collecting t-shirt.  >:(
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 17, 2005, 09:49 PM
Good to see Greg's butt back over here too!  One of the few original JD invitees that didn't stick around as much as we'd hoped...  ;)

Haha!  Thanks for the kind words- I've always loved you guys, it has been mostly time constraints that kept me posting on only one site.  But I swear this time I'll hang around and contribute more!  Good to be back!
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 17, 2005, 11:01 PM
I laughed out loud when I checked out the so called RS store.

Isn't the RS store also known as "The Main Page?"   ;D

I mean, honestly, the advertising on the front page beats the actual "news" (which as today's "cancellation" of the Clone 3 packs has shown, is often dubious at best) by a pretty good ratio, and the site has become increasingly hard to navigate as there is no logical structure to it.  And even once you get into the photo archive it takes it forever to load due to the 50 million ads that keep loading on the right side of the page.  It reminds me of the billboards in sports stadiums surrounding the Jumbo-Tron, except in RS's case, the Jumbo-Tron is a 10 inch black and white television.

One of the more telling things I've noticed about them is that they never really crowed about the Clone 4 packs or the Astromech 5 packs from EE.  Now, granted, there isn't a lot to crow about due to the price, and my feelings about one Mr. Pawlus are fairly known amongst some of the staff here, but it's almost as if because the House of Wise had nothing to do with the conceptualization of these items, they won't promote them because another site had some hand in them.  Does EE even sponsor RS anymore?

I exercise my (rather pointless) right to protest by not visiting that site.  I have clicked through before because someone in these forums posted a link to a story or photo there, but as for regular visits on my own, I quit going there a long time ago.  Wise is an *******, a large number of the forum members (excluding the Vintage guys) have a median age of 6, and if I wanted 5000 replies of "me too LOL" I'd go to a teen chatroom on Britney Spears or whatever the hell it is that kids are into these days.  Sock hops?

In conclusion, I'd just like to say that the only reason that need be given from this point on (and the only one I will give to save you all from my pointless ramblings after 2 hours sleep in the last three days), is this:

QUALITY > QUANTITY

 :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JediMAC on August 17, 2005, 11:50 PM
Since it's been pointed out that RS benefits from having more posts per minute than we get here at JD, I feel it's only fair to point out some of the benefits that JD has, that RS can't offer (and has downright refused to in some instances when asked by their members)...

store reports forum (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7.0) here is for registered JD members only, and is closed to the general public, keeping scalpers and lurkers on the outside, unable to benefit from your finds.  We also monitor "lurking" online members, and will take action if they continue to review store reports without participating.
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[li]Consolidated Feedback forum and safe trading.[/li]  All of our member's trading feedback (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=24.0) is updated regularly and is neatly and concisely consolidated into one thread per member for ease of your quick perusal, organized both alphabetically (linked), and numerically.  Plus, we've never had a single trade transaction go awry between two JediDefender members.  Safest, and most helpful, trading community on the net.
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[li]Meticulously organized and managed forums, with the ability to MERGE threads.[/li]  You won't find pages full of duplicate locked threads here at JD.  On the very rare occasion that a duplicate topic pops up around the board here, we have the magical, and completely painless, ability to simply (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/Themes/classic/images/english/merge.gif) the new topic with the old one.  No hassle, no hurt feelings, and it keeps the threads and forums here clutter-free and very easy to follow and browse through in search of your favorite topics.

On the even rarer occasion that a topic veers off into a completely unrelated discussion of another ongoing topic, we also have the cool ability to (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/Themes/classic/images/english/split.gif) a topic up, and merge the necessary posts into the proper discussion elsewhere.  I'd like to stress that neither of these functions actually get used much here at JD, since our members are always completely on top of things on their own, and don't need any navigational assistance with their posts.  But it's a nice function to have handy at our moderator's fingertips, when the rare need arises.  We of course have the standard (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/Themes/classic/images/english/admin_move.gif) function, but what forum doesn't have that?  These tools all lead to the most organized and easy to browse forum around.  It also gives our mods something to play with, since there's little need for them otherwise...
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[li]You can swear here.[/li]  :P  This is an adult collecting community, and as such, we allow our members to speak freely and use some of the more colorful "adult" language that you might normally expect to encounter in the real world.  Our members have the option of turning their language filters on, or off, in their profiles, so it's entirely up to them the type of content they choose to read.  So ****, ****, assclown all you want around here!  8)
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[li]Close-knit community.[/li]  This is a group of friends here at JD, not a bunch of anonymous randoms who don't give two ***** about anyone but themselves.  We're pretty much all on a first name basis, we talk often, party often, and get together whenever and wherever we can.  It's a lot more fun discussing Star Wars and collecting with your buddies, and people you know, rather than a forum full of randoms that you'll never know, and who have no interest in getting to know you.  We're the Cheers of the collecting community, after all...  ;)
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[li]Staff and owner who participate, listen, and actually care.[/li]  This one's pretty self-explanatory, really.  The staff here pretty much just blends in with the rest of the gang, and usually forgets that they're actually here in any official capacity (since there's never a need for any moderation).  We're also here to serve our members needs, so when folks have a question, comment, or suggestion - we're all ears, and eager to discuss things with them, rather than giving them the finger, and telling them to "Get a life and move along" or "Because I said so, that's why."  We keep a close eye on our Site Feedback (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=30.0) forum, and are usually quite quick to address any of our member's needs, and we love to hear, and often implement, their suggestions to make JD even better.  On the rare occasion that we have to implement some type of administrative decision or rule change (can't even really recall this ever happening), we'll definitely discuss the matter with our members so that everyone has a clear understanding of why something is happening, and a voice on whether or not they agree with it.
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[li]Average member age.[/li]  Our average member's age here at JD is probably in the early 30's.  Bunch'a mellow old timers here, which also means that we have a much more mature, intelligent, respectful, knowledgeable, articulate, and friendly membership base here.  This in turn obviously leads to the much higher post quality that you'll generally find here.  You'll likely never encounter a troll or flame war at JD either, or even a heated arguement really.  When they do occasionally pop up, our moderators are usually right on top of things, and serious forum infractions are never allowed to be repeated.  Like one of our mottos that BigDumbWookiee wrote up (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=4581.msg62697#msg62697) a while back: And remember: Here at JediDefender, we love you. Unless you're an *******.  :P
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[li]We're not here to profit off of you.[/li]  JD is not a business, it's a fansite, and Chris Berry (our owner) is not a businessman here to make a profit off of you, our members.  This is a non-profit site, and while we do have bills to pay to keep JD up and running, we're not going to stuff things down your throat every chance we get to make some coin off of our members.  We definitely won't lie to you and say "Our specially designed Starcases are just about sold out, and we'll never be making any more again, so hurry up and buy yours while supplies last..." and then turn around a couple months later and say "Hey, we've made more Starcases, and better yet, they'll cost even more than last time, so get 'em while they're hot!"  Nope, JD ain't a store.  We have a much better agenda - to talk about collecting Star Wars crap with our buddies.  Novel idea, huh?
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[li]The JD Sports Forum![/li]  Where else can you get all your sports talk (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=45.0) in one place?!  8)
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[li]A booming Customs and Photo Novel section.[/li]  We've recently developed into one of the best customizing forums (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=15.0) around.  Some great work, excellent tips, and an outstanding group of talented and friendly customizers.
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[li]We have llamas.[/li]  'Nuff said. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=694.0)[/list]

So there ya' go.  I could go on further, but you all probably get the point.  JD may not be a post whore machine like RS, but we've got some other pretty kickass benefits not offered elsewhere, which I think more than make up for a bunch of extra horse**** posts that usually don't even make much sense (or points) anyway.  See, now don't you all wish you hadn't gotten me started here?!?  :-X

- M
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Diddly on August 17, 2005, 11:59 PM
You didn't even mention the giveaways! I think we're the only site that has them anymore?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2005, 12:00 AM
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Consolidated Feedback forum and safe trading. All of our member's trading feedback is updated regularly and is neatly and concisely consolidated into one thread per member for ease of your quick perusal, organized both alphabetically (linked), and numerically.  Plus, we've never had a single trade transaction go awry between two JediDefender members.  Safest, and most helpful, trading community on the net.

Well, back in the day RS did actually try to do that and made up some consolidated feedback threads.  I recall yours getting done Matt, but mine never did.  I think it was one of the guys that split off to GH that initiated it, but probably got a bit overwhelmed.  As for getting ripped off, nope, not here.  But I have at spawn.com and at RH though apparently one guy died before he could send my stuff ::)

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You can swear here.   This is an adult collecting community, and as such, we allow our members to speak freely and use some of the more colorful "adult" language that you might normally expect to encounter in the real world.  Our members have the option of turning their language filters on, or off, in their profiles, so it's entirely up to them the type of content they choose to read.  So ****, ****, assclown all you want around here!  

Look, I'm sorry ok.  I try to keep it in, but it just doesn't work :-[

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We're the Cheers of the collecting community, after all...
Hmm, that sounds familiar :-*

But you forgot the most important part of all Matt.  You've got the best ass in all of the star wars communities.  I mean except for the hair and all, but I digress.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Scott on August 18, 2005, 12:00 AM
Matt, you forgot one biggie

"I'm God, so live with it."-Greg(g), GNT
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/GNTSistine.jpg)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2005, 12:02 AM
You didn't even mention the giveaways! I think we're the only site that has them anymore?
snowtroopers.ca has them as well. ;)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: BillCable on August 18, 2005, 12:06 AM
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[li]You can swear here.[/li]  :P  This is an adult collecting community, and as such, we allow our members to speak freely and use some of the more colorful "adult" language that you might normally expect to encounter in the real world.  Our members have the option of turning their language filters on, or off, in their profiles, so it's entirely up to them the type of content they choose to read.  So ****, ****, assclown all you want around here!  8)
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- M

You mean I won't get scolded like a child for posting the word "dip****?"  ******' A!!   ;D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 18, 2005, 12:09 AM
But you forgot the most important part of all Matt.  You've got the best ass in all of the star wars communities.  I mean except for the hair and all, but I digress.

OK, now we've gone past that line of good taste.  I have the best ass.   >:(
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: BillCable on August 18, 2005, 12:09 AM
You didn't even mention the giveaways! I think we're the only site that has them anymore?
snowtroopers.ca has them as well. ;)

http://CreatureCantina.com is trying to give away some figures right now, but apparently nobody wants them.   :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JediMAC on August 18, 2005, 12:12 AM
Well, back in the day RS did actually try to do that and made up some consolidated feedback threads.  I recall yours getting done Matt, but mine never did.  I think it was one of the guys that split off to GH that initiated it, but probably got a bit overwhelmed.

Nope.  I was the one who always maintained my feedback thread at RS, and back then, I was pretty much the only one who made an effort to do that.  But I know what you're talking about, and while it was similar, Matt Carroll's effort there was definitely not quite the same as what we've got going on here.  He would have to copy/paste/link any and every wayward feedback post (which was pretty much all of them), to try to make a semblance of a consolidated feedback thread, and then put together a list of a few of the names that traded there, upon request.  Nothing like the well oiled machine that is the JD Feedback Forum though.  One thread per person, and that's it.  And our highly intelligent members don't even need help in getting their feedback posts in the right places!  Must be due to that kickass Feedback Directory (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=1496.0) we have...  ;)


But you forgot the most important part of all Matt.  You've got the best ass in all of the star wars communities...

I thought that pretty much went without saying.


Matt, you forgot one biggie

"I'm God, so live with it."-Greg(g), GNT

Now that one definitely went without saying!  ::)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2005, 12:14 AM
But you forgot the most important part of all Matt.  You've got the best ass in all of the star wars communities.  I mean except for the hair and all, but I digress.

OK, now we've gone past that line of good taste.  I have the best ass.   >:(

You're too short and your ass is too round.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: DSJ™ on August 18, 2005, 12:17 AM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much information.  ::)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2005, 12:20 AM
Jealous?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 18, 2005, 12:25 AM
Probably.  He doesn't have an ass.   :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: DSJ™ on August 18, 2005, 12:27 AM
Probably.  He doesn't have an ass.   :P

I have 2, both of you!  :P
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2005, 12:34 AM
More than just that around here.

See, look at the high quality of posts here at JD.  RS?  Pish-tosh.  You can't get this quality there.  Of course you probably can't get three Canadians morons on the site at the same time either.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: DSJ™ on August 18, 2005, 12:35 AM
 :-X
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JesseVader08 on August 18, 2005, 12:46 AM
If people can't see that we're all about quality after this intellectual exchange, there's no hope for them.   :D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: CorranHorn on August 18, 2005, 12:52 AM
This keeps up and the Vintage community may not have a choice but to relocate... 

I can only hope.  :)

John

Well I'm sure the JD staff would love to see the vintage community hop on by here. I think it would be great to expand the vintage conversations here, and the big plus is no riff-raff!  ;D Pretty much everyone I have seen post in the vintage section here has been collecting for quite some time and/or isn't looking for the quick payoff, but real insight into the toys of yesteryear.

 >:( Is this the same RS Vinty community I’m thinking about here? Cause most of them started collecting in the 90’s- newbies. I can tell you if there was a migration of those pompous, magnificent liars to JD there would be one less member here (after getting skewered in the anus, I have zero tolerance for most of them, though certainly there’s still many decent collectors there as well) but I suppose the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few… or the one.

Depends on your definition of newbies. I don't think someone who's been collecting since the 90's necessarily qualifies as a newbie. Someone who just started this year is definitely a newbie and there's a lot of those kinds of collectors running around RS. And while I agree  that some of them can come off as pompous, I think it's an injustice to call them liars. Unless you have had problems with a wide variety of members there, and usually when there is such a problem it turns out the individual is at fault compared to the group, I think you may be letting occurences with a few members to color your judgment of the community.

The amount of sheer knowledge that the vintage community has in the hobby reaches well beyond just vintage items and would certainly be a great asset to any site that they used as a "homebase." Sadly, they choose to stay at RS, despite the fact they many of them have stated that they don't like it there or have had problems there.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jesse James on August 18, 2005, 01:05 AM
First...

Well, Jesse and Chewie have both tried to get me over here so, here I am.   :P

With RS down for a while I'll need to get my fix somewhere and if I can do that without endless posts of crap in the modern sections I may just stay!


   E...

Holy ****, you're here Eric! :)

Big E's a memeber of the PSWCS, and a buddy of mine.  Also was my line buddy at Celebration 3 (along with Jeff and Jason), where I was pretty much flew solo during the event for 90% of my time at it.  Me and E cashed in our badges for our store goodies together.

Good times man!  You gotta get out to Western PA sometime bud.  Glad to have you aboard finally.

Second...

If anything we've worked against increases in traffic at our site considering we like to "weed out" the people who are here to just be peckerheads.  And they do show up...  Some of them are the people that some of us have had issues with elsewhere, some are just post-padding morons that fit in better at Rebelscum since there's many of their ilk to compete with...  But either way we don't just let them play their game, they get das boot.  Sure they could increase traffic, but why let them drag our home down?  **** that, and **** them.

Third...

Creature Cantina.com sucks.  Sorry Bill.  You've known this.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2005, 01:14 AM
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Depends on your definition of newbies. I don't think someone who's been collecting since the 90's necessarily qualifies as a newbie. Someone who just started this year is definitely a newbie and there's a lot of those kinds of collectors running around RS. And while I agree  that some of them can come off as pompous, I think it's an injustice to call them liars. Unless you have had problems with a wide variety of members there, and usually when there is such a problem it turns out the individual is at fault compared to the group, I think you may be letting occurences with a few members to color your judgment of the community.

The amount of sheer knowledge that the vintage community has in the hobby reaches well beyond just vintage items and would certainly be a great asset to any site that they used as a "homebase." Sadly, they choose to stay at RS, despite the fact they many of them have stated that they don't like it there or have had problems there.

I'd definitely fit that newbie category with respect to vintage.  I didn't start collecting SW toys until '95 and not vintage until '03 :-[  Dale's been a tremendous help to me and I'd suggest to DaBigKahuna who started around the same time.  I'll certainly lay no grand claims to any amount of knowledge base for vintage.  

My guess on the reluctance of the vintage crew to step somewhere else is that they've addressed many of the questions someone as myself may pose and rather than going through it all again which would be quite tedious they can simply pull up an old thread and say read this.  I've participated on non-toy sites where the same questions get asked repeatedly and it indeed is tedious to answer them repeatedly.  I think that could be addressed by partitioning off the vinty section here simply into two areas, one for experienced collectors and one for more basic needs.  

Not at all trying to knock RS or the established vintage community but I will blow some sunshine up Dale's (and others that have helped out here) arse in that the patience he's shown as a resource for answering questions here has been invaluable to me.  I don't think reasonably that could have been accomplished at RS whether it's because of cynicism (due to too many speculators cruising through) or because they've just done it too many times.  I had near personal guidance through an entire loose vintage collection.  Picking up a couple of books really helped as well, but it's nice to be able to ask questions and get answers.  I think that's just an example that's fairly symptomatic of the crew here at JD.  And again it's not to say there aren't folks that wouldn't do it at other sites, just that it works so well here.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: CorranHorn on August 18, 2005, 01:36 AM
I'd definitely fit that newbie category with respect to vintage.  I didn't start collecting SW toys until '95 and not vintage until '03 :-[  Dale's been a tremendous help to me and I'd suggest to DaBigKahuna who started around the same time.  I'll certainly lay no grand claims to any amount of knowledge base for vintage. 

Brent, starting to collect vintage only 2 years ago would I believe classify you as a newcomer to the hobby, but that certainly doesn't mean you haven't added to the small, but hopefully growing, vintage community here at JD. My problem with newbies in the vintage community in general is you know they're just in it to make the quick buck and not give back to the group. Though that is something that can be seen in any sub-group of the collecting hobby, I've seen enough of it in the customizing community to be well versed in that kinda crap.

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My guess on the reluctance of the vintage crew to step somewhere else is that they've addressed many of the questions someone as myself may pose and rather than going through it all again which would be quite tedious they can simply pull up an old thread and say read this.  I've participated on non-toy sites where the same questions get asked repeatedly and it indeed is tedious to answer them repeatedly.  I think that could be addressed by partitioning off the vinty section here simply into two areas, one for experienced collectors and one for more basic needs. 

I can definitely see that as a reason for not wanting to migrate to a different site. The only thing though is they might find that re-iterating old topics at a place such as JD where people are willing to really learn, help each other out and give back, could be rather refreshing to them and even help them recall things they hadn't thought about in years. Something similar has happened in the customizing community in the last couple of years. When the old Forgotten Force listserv dried up, the FF instinctively went over to RS, because it was RS who hosted the listserv. Many of us "veterans" tried to help out, but we got pelted with crap from people who just wanted to shill their own **** and not give back to the group, something against the principles of the FF. So many vets grew tired of the scene and moved on. As an attempt to bring back the fun of the FF, the staff of FFURG (including myself and Jesse) started our own message board (the FForums - cheap plug  :P) as a means of not only giving back to the once thriving community, but to help others to do just that. We have many newcomers to the hobby come through, and they ask the same questions that all newcomers would ask back in the day on the old listserv. But instead of shunning them, we do our best to help them out, by explaining concepts and helping to point them in the right direction when it comes to an article, picture, or recipe. It's been rather refreshing, as it's helped bring back some forgotten concepts or even new angles on those concepts. That's something that gives back to the community, and I think the vintage community could find that would happen for them as well.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jesse James on August 18, 2005, 04:07 AM
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Many of us "veterans" tried to help out, but we got pelted with crap from people who just wanted to shill their own **** and not give back to the group, something against the principles of the FF.

That's a good example of why the Customs area at Scum's so goddam disappointing.

A lot of  "Hey, that is great!" posts and that's it.  Not that one-line posts that took 0 thought are uncommon in general over yonder, but it was in the customizing area where it became downright irritating.

There's a handful of guys who only want to hear "hey, that's great", and that's it.  They're the guys that if you do offer criticism constructively they don't reply to you at all because that's not what they're there to do.  They often don't go in-depth in explaining how they created something either.  Gotta love that kind of personality.   ::)

The whole thing of just praising people's work without ever talking about it just blew so hard though, and then some people even getting "offended" when you gave opinions on it that weren't solid praise...  I think it's just that people either didn't want to be offensive and were shy about criticism or they were just more post-padders (who'da thunk that huh?), so the whole thing just fell apart.

FFURG is a place for learning though...  Plus it's nice to just see customizers controlling their forum.  I hated that Philip ran the goddam Listserver when it was up and active even because he did NOTHING to curb off-topic traffic and the like.  I absolutely hated that (and it's that very inactivity that killed the old listserver as well...  It's that same blind eye he turns to the Forums at Scum.  He doesn't give a **** so he doesn't put forth effort on these projects of his).

The Email Server, in its death throws, was the biggest cluster**** on the internet if you can imagine that.  It degenerated into pretty much a place for people to talk about Star Wars (anything and everything) and clog your email box...  You also had the obligatory bafoon sending SPAM or chain letters and such to the list too...  I like that FFURG controls 1000+ member forum that holds something true to the old list server's intent, and that Philip has nothing to do with as far as the way it is run.  It's run by customizers, as it should be.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 18, 2005, 12:27 PM
Well, I randomly just tried the forums and they were up and there was no announcement on the front page indicating so. So what is the deal? Are they back up now, or will they only work under certain conditions until the forum guy straightens everything up?
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: efranks on August 18, 2005, 02:15 PM
First...

Well, Jesse and Chewie have both tried to get me over here so, here I am.   :P

With RS down for a while I'll need to get my fix somewhere and if I can do that without endless posts of crap in the modern sections I may just stay!


   E...

Holy ****, you're here Eric! :)

Big E's a memeber of the PSWCS, and a buddy of mine.  Also was my line buddy at Celebration 3 (along with Jeff and Jason), where I was pretty much flew solo during the event for 90% of my time at it.  Me and E cashed in our badges for our store goodies together.

Good times man!  You gotta get out to Western PA sometime bud.  Glad to have you aboard finally.

Second...

If anything we've worked against increases in traffic at our site considering we like to "weed out" the people who are here to just be peckerheads.  And they do show up...  Some of them are the people that some of us have had issues with elsewhere, some are just post-padding morons that fit in better at Rebelscum since there's many of their ilk to compete with...  But either way we don't just let them play their game, they get das boot.  Sure they could increase traffic, but why let them drag our home down?  **** that, and **** them.

Third...

Creature Cantina.com sucks.  Sorry Bill.  You've known this.

I haven't heard the word "peckerhead" in years, I think I forgot about it.  I must now endeavor to use it more often.

And yes, C3 was a blast and it was great hanging out with you in line. 

I should get down to Pitt more often.  Every time one of the comicons or toy shows get announced I think about running down for it but I haven't done it yet.  I'll have to try harder!

   E...
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Ook on August 18, 2005, 04:36 PM
Well, I randomly just tried the forums and they were up and there was no announcement on the front page indicating so. So what is the deal? Are they back up now, or will they only work under certain conditions until the forum guy straightens everything up?

They were back with no announcement as early as last evening. I've been logging in since then.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 18, 2005, 05:39 PM
Matt, I thank you for that huge list of JD features you pointed out. I knew most of them, except for this one:

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Private Store Reports section. Our store reports forum here is for registered JD members only, and is closed to the general public, keeping scalpers and lurkers on the outside, unable to benefit from your finds.  We also monitor "lurking" online members, and will take action if they continue to review store reports without participating.


That is an awesome feature I was totally unaware of!  Now...again, if you guys could just get that annoying traffic here (like RS or GH has).....my Seattle thread that was last updated 2 years ago would be a daily hangout for me.  As it stands right now, I'm the only person from Seattle who ever posted in it.  :(

The Seattle "Look what I found" at RS  has been one of my best collecting resources of all time (second only to the classifieds over there). But it has a flaw in that everyone in the collecting world knows about it, and lurks there.

I didn't know the JD one was for registered users only, that's a HUGE benefit!  If only I could advertise that on other sites where Seattle collectors go.   Maybe I'll mention it at our collectors meeting and see if I can get people to come over and use this secure thread instead.

Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Nathan on August 18, 2005, 05:42 PM
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That is an awesome feature I was totally unaware of!

'Tis a new feature, that's why:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8742.0

:)
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Morgbug on August 18, 2005, 05:49 PM
Funny, I can't find Minnesota threads on RS or GH (well, it's there) anymore at all.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jesse James on August 18, 2005, 06:01 PM
I haven't heard the word "peckerhead" in years, I think I forgot about it.  I must now endeavor to use it more often.

And yes, C3 was a blast and it was great hanging out with you in line. 

I should get down to Pitt more often.  Every time one of the comicons or toy shows get announced I think about running down for it but I haven't done it yet.  I'll have to try harder!

   E...

The local guys always do some drinking, trading, and general hanging out so I'm sure you'd be a welcome addition man.  :)

C3 was a blast...  Hardly got to chat with you after the show though.  I didn't get to see many PSWCS guys at all.  Twas a hectic weekend for certain, and I feel like I didn't divide my time up as well as I should have.  I missed hanging with the FFURG guys after the show too, and only saw my JD gang a couple times...  Was just a busy time.

You get into town, make sure you let me know though...  PM me here or email me or whatever...  I'm always up for grabbin' beers with the Star Wars gang.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: efranks on August 18, 2005, 11:13 PM
I kind of felt like I didn't budget my time quite as well at C3 as I did at C2.  I saw fewer presentations and it seemed like I was always running, but couldn't really tell you what I did.   ???

I had fun and felt like I saw a lot of cool things (Kinda wished I had tried to see Lucas though) but, like you, did a lot of running around on my own.  I kind of think that's almost the best way to do it though.

Nothing against my friends that were there with me, but in a show that sized it's easier to just make a call and do something than try to arrange some massive movement.  Heh.

But, yeah, when I make it down to Pitt next time we'll definitely have to hang out. 

   E...
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 19, 2005, 02:19 PM
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I kind of felt like I didn't budget my time quite as well at C3 as I did at C2.  I saw fewer presentations and it seemed like I was always running, but couldn't really tell you what I did

You know, looking back, I didn't see a lot at C3 either. I saw all the big panels and things I wanted to see, but I missed SO Much of the smaller shows and panels.

I'm guessing this is because I spent so much of my time in costume, or volunteering at various posts around the convention for the 501st.   What a sucker I was.   Still had lots of fun though.   ;D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Famine on August 19, 2005, 02:21 PM
My highlite was seeing Lucas, still.

Kevin
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Scott on August 19, 2005, 02:23 PM
My highlight was talking to Matt, Jeff and Brent on the phone

My lowlight was talking to Jamie on the phone >:(
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 19, 2005, 02:25 PM
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My highlite was seeing Lucas, still.

Kevin

I saw 2 and a half of his 3 shows, and that was definitely the highlight for me too.  The McCallum spectacular was a close second (that footage blew me away).

I only hung out at Hooters for a short time with the JD crew, but I swear I saw some of you guys more than I saw the folks I traveled from Seattle with while walking around the con all 4 days.   The funniest times were when I was in armor and you had no idea who I was.  ;D
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Famine on August 19, 2005, 02:26 PM
My highlight was talking to Matt, Jeff and Brent on the phone

My lowlight was talking to Jamie on the phone >:(

You havent lived untill you've spoken to a Drunk Matt and a Drunk Morgbug on the phone. :D

You only got sober Morgbug from what I saw. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2005, 06:27 PM
Best moment for me was being one of the last to get into McCallum's spectacular, and only after I went to catch it on a whim thinking I was too late.  Of course, a tie for best moment came prior to that at the Hasbro thing, but besides that bit of ego-boosting I went by myself to the McCallum thing...

I walked to the disgustingly long line, and just as I started to wait, it started to move at record pace, and I was one of the last 20 or so to get in to the last show he was attending.  To top it off my buddy Scott and his wife Nikki were in PERFECT seats in the back and had an open one they could give me.  So I had a great seat in the back to see the whole thing...  The footage, the music, and just having my senses on overload was great. 

Twas a good day.  Then I went out and paid $100+ for 2 steak dinners.  hah!  But man, they were good dinners.

I needed more time with people more than at C3...  The gf and I were sick Saturday night so we didn't get time in with people that night.  Just crashed at the hotel...  I could've stood hanging with the PA guys more, and of course the JD and FFURG guys I missed getting to see more than I did.  FFURG I only got to hang with at the show.   :-\

Still, it was a blast, just felt like I could've delegated time a little more efficiently.  Being my first time at a con like that though, I feel I did fairly well too.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 19, 2005, 08:28 PM
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Then I went out and paid $100+ for 2 steak dinners

Hey, that's what I did my last night too. We went to Ruth's Chris, and dressed up a little.  It was expensive, but my friends and I it was a nice change from all that convention junk food we'd been eating all week.

  We ended up being the last ones inside the place, except for the private room full of lots of Star Wars celebrities who were apparently celebrating the end of Celebration 3 the same way we were.

Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2005, 10:47 PM
We went to a place called St. Elmo's I think it was...  It was nice.  It was where Lucas ate dinner Saturday evening I guess...  Found out while talking to the waiter that he had a room booked for himself, McCallum, and a bunch of names I didn't recognize, haha.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: Morgbug on August 20, 2005, 12:04 AM
 The funniest times were when I was in armor and you had no idea who I was.  ;D

You walked right by me in the lobby of the hotel on Sunday morning.  Never said hi or acknowledged my nod.


Prick ;)

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You only got sober Morgbug from what I saw.
I have what's called a tipping point.  American beer doesn't get me there, I need hard liquor for that.  I seem pretty much dead sober until I hit that point, when hilarity ensues.
Title: Re: How long has that damned RS been down?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 21, 2005, 03:34 PM
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You walked right by me in the lobby of the hotel on Sunday morning.  Never said hi or acknowledged my nod.


Prick

Did I mention I can't see at all in those things?  ;D
Title: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 19, 2005, 10:45 AM
Not to sound like an *******, but is anyone else consistently (and severely) underwhelmed by the collections that RS constantly shows on its front page?
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Rob on September 19, 2005, 12:00 PM
I have been - it's to the point that I'm wanting to submit my collection - just so a decen one can get some screen time.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 19, 2005, 12:30 PM
Glad I'm not the only one. I have no problem with people having smaller collections, we all started at one point or another. I just don't think that a small collection should make front page news.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 19, 2005, 01:29 PM
I think that as well sometimes, but when I see those collections, I'm ususally under the impression that they are collections from pre-teens and teens who are proud that they can amass and display these items. If that is the case or not, I have know idea, but I would like to see some real collections.

Maybe all the serious collectors with serious collectors are over here. ::)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Rob on September 19, 2005, 01:33 PM
A lot of them are collections of people who live outside the U.S. - where it's much more difficult to get SW stuff - so in those instances I can appreciate the smaller collections - but for God's sake most of them are so sloppy and thrown together that they look terrible.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 19, 2005, 02:37 PM
Totally agree! Not to sound snobby, but some of the stuff they display with pride is the same stuff that end ups in my garbage. :-\

Example:
(http://www.rebelscum.com/collections/jay/1.jpg)


He has some nice stuff, but he surounds it with junk like empty bottles, bottle caps, cans, and those LAME Burger King crowns!


I also hate it when people put their ugly mugs in the pics. :-X
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Ben on September 19, 2005, 03:25 PM
I don't see what's wrong with that above pic.

I don't see how Burger King crowns can be called lame when most of us own the first POTF2 figures.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 19, 2005, 03:34 PM
I actually like how he's got all the stuff displayed.  I also won't complain about having stuff like the empty cups and Burger King crowns in his collection.  Some people like to collect that stuff.

If I were to post pictures of my collection most of it would be in large rubbermaid bins.   :-[
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Ben on September 19, 2005, 03:36 PM
That's how mine would look too. I envy these people for having all that room for their stuff.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Andy_R on September 19, 2005, 03:37 PM
There is no right or wrong way to collect.  
But there is a right and wrong way to display.  Even small collections can look nice if displayed properly.  

My main problem with the RS feature is there's not enough vintage representing.   8)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Rob on September 19, 2005, 04:35 PM
That one pictured is in the top 5% compared to most of the stuff they show on that site.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: jokabofe on September 19, 2005, 04:41 PM
If any of you guys want to see your collections displayed on our front page, just pm or email me and let me know where to find some pics (or email them to me) and I will be more than happy to post them. We tried to do this a while back and had no takers... maybe now is a better time to try?
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 19, 2005, 04:41 PM
That's right Rob.

Alot of the stuff is usually about 5-10 modern figures, with most of the figures being recent releases. And then maybe one packaged figure in the background.

Wow! This collection consists of Lott Dodd, Hangar Duel Anakin, ROTS Mon Mothma, a Neimoidian Warrior and...holy ****...a Bespin guard!!! Wow! There's even a POTF2 stormtrooper! Stop the Press!!!
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 19, 2005, 04:44 PM
If any of you guys want to see your collections displayed on our front page, just pm or email me and let me know where to find some pics (or email them to me) and I will be more than happy to post them. We tried to do this a while back and had no takers... maybe now is a better time to try?

Maybe when I finish my Jabba's palace coffee table! ;)

The point though, is not to belittle people with less-than-dazzling collections. Like I said, we were all there at one point or another, and the more people joining the hobby, the better. The point is that RS is basically celebrating mediocrity (as usual). When I click on a link on the front page of a Star Wars collecting website there should be something noteworthy and interesting. Not something that looks like the loose contents of the clearance section at TRU.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Jeff on September 19, 2005, 04:55 PM
is anyone else consistently (and severely) underwhelmed by the collections that RS constantly shows on its front page?

I had a similar thought to yours when I saw this guy's collection featured on the main page a few weeks ago...

Azad Firat's "collection" (http://www.rebelscum.com/c-firat.asp)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/collections/firat/CIMG1198.jpg)

I guess it must be hard to be a collector in Turkey... but hey - different strokes for different folks I guess.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 19, 2005, 05:04 PM
I have to chime in here, and I certainly don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but I don't see the problem with any of the photos that RS or any other sites show of someone's collection.  Not everyone can afford a huge collection of rare items, and even the people that have such collections with such items are often unable to display them, either for time, space, or money reasons. 

In my view, which seems to go right along with yours Lando, someone who has just started collecting and/or displaying the stuff with ROTS has just as much right to show their collection as someone who has been collecting since 1977.  I'm not going to judge someone's collection based on what they have vs. what they don't have, how old the stuff is or isn't, or the dollar value attached to it.  Some of my favorite pieces in my collection that I am most proud of are things that the majority of people would think are worthless and better in the garbage, but I like them and that's all that matters. 

Every one of us started somewhere, with a very small collection, and if someone with a small collection wants to show photos of their stuff, that's all well and good to me.  My problem with the situation is that most of the time, those photos and/or ads for some overpriced etailer are the vast majority of that other site's content on the front page.  I don't see anything wrong with showing off your collection, regardless of the size, but when that's 90 percent of your "news", then I think it's the site with a problem instead of the collector.

No disrespect intended to anyone whose opinion differs so far in this thread, but a Burger King crown might be as special to someone as a Master Replicas Vader lightsaber prop to someone else.  It's all a matter of personal taste.   :-\

Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 19, 2005, 05:05 PM
is anyone else consistently (and severely) underwhelmed by the collections that RS constantly shows on its front page?

I had a similar thought to yours when I saw this guy's collection featured on the main page a few weeks ago...

Azad Firat's "collection" (http://www.rebelscum.com/c-firat.asp)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/collections/firat/CIMG1198.jpg)

I guess it must be hard to be a collector in Turkey... but hey - different strokes for different folks I guess.




LOL! I love the peeled off stickers!
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 19, 2005, 05:13 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/c-cheong.asp

How is that a collection? There's, like, 10 figures there and they're all closeups. Why doesn't RS have a policy regarding what kind of pics are taken? For example, I've seena  few people who took pictures of everything they own and RS posted all of them!



Here's a great collection, but what kind of idiot buys acrylic cases for every crappy POTF2 figure?? Philip Wise... That's who!


(http://www.rebelscum.com/room/16-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 19, 2005, 05:23 PM

Here's a great collection, but what kind of idiot buys acrylic cases for every crappy POTF2 figure?? Philip Wise... That's who!


I can't help but wonder if his ROTS figures are stored in those AWESOME custom Rebelscum Protecto-pak StarCase things?  ;D

Additional Comedy Request: Can someone photoshop a Greg(gggggg) statue into one corner of the room so we can have "conclusive proof" of Lord Philip's shrine to GNT?  ;)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 19, 2005, 05:35 PM
I have to chime in here, and I certainly don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but I don't see the problem with any of the photos that RS or any other sites show of someone's collection.  Not everyone can afford a huge collection of rare items, and even the people that have such collections with such items are often unable to display them, either for time, space, or money reasons. 

In my view, which seems to go right along with yours Lando, someone who has just started collecting and/or displaying the stuff with ROTS has just as much right to show their collection as someone who has been collecting since 1977.  I'm not going to judge someone's collection based on what they have vs. what they don't have, how old the stuff is or isn't, or the dollar value attached to it.  Some of my favorite pieces in my collection that I am most proud of are things that the majority of people would think are worthless and better in the garbage, but I like them and that's all that matters. 

Every one of us started somewhere, with a very small collection, and if someone with a small collection wants to show photos of their stuff, that's all well and good to me.  My problem with the situation is that most of the time, those photos and/or ads for some overpriced etailer are the vast majority of that other site's content on the front page.  I don't see anything wrong with showing off your collection, regardless of the size, but when that's 90 percent of your "news", then I think it's the site with a problem instead of the collector.

No disrespect intended to anyone whose opinion differs so far in this thread, but a Burger King crown might be as special to someone as a Master Replicas Vader lightsaber prop to someone else.  It's all a matter of personal taste.   :-\



I understand what you're saying DoctorPadawan, but my point is that this should not be front page news. I like what we have here on JD, where there's a section of the forums devoted to this. I'm all for encouraging people who just started, but when I have a couple minutes during work to check on some collecting news, I don't need to wade through endless collectors' collections pics to find something interesting.

It seems as though you should be a little impressed when you click on a front page story. I'm sorry if it sounds elitist, and I'm well aware that there are people that have larger collectons than me...personally, I'd like to see them.

I think the great thing about showcasing the collections of other collectors is when their stuff is displayed in a unique way. Daigo-Bah and CHEWIE, for instance, both create lots of small dioramas that their figures are displayed in. I've seen pics of CHEWIE's display room. I'd love to see some pics of Daigo-Bah's display room. Anyone can take a bunch of stuff and cram it into an IKEA shelf. Not everyone can set up their figures in a way that shows some creativity, devotion and, frankly, experience with the hobby.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 19, 2005, 05:38 PM

Here's a great collection, but what kind of idiot buys acrylic cases for every crappy POTF2 figure?? Philip Wise... That's who!


I can't help but wonder if his ROTS figures are stored in those AWESOME custom Rebelscum Protecto-pak StarCase things?  ;D

Additional Comedy Request: Can someone photoshop a Greg(gggggg) statue into one corner of the room so we can have "conclusive proof" of Lord Philip's shrine to GNT?  ;)

I think that battledroid is just begging to be touched by God himself...
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JediMAC on September 19, 2005, 05:48 PM
Here's a great collection, but what kind of idiot buys acrylic cases for every crappy POTF2 figure?? Philip Wise... That's who!

A rich idiot, that's who.  But hell, if I had the money (and the space), I'd likely do the same thing, since it does make for a pretty kickass display, regardless of how ****** the figures may be.

I don't look through the RS collection much anymore, so I can't really comment on this topic otherwise.  But that collection from Turkey there is admittedly pretty weak...  :-\
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 19, 2005, 06:02 PM

I understand what you're saying DoctorPadawan, but my point is that this should not be front page news. I like what we have here on JD, where there's a section of the forums devoted to this. I'm all for encouraging people who just started, but when I have a couple minutes during work to check on some collecting news, I don't need to wade through endless collectors' collections pics to find something interesting.


Oh, I understood that, and I apologize if it came across as me inferring you or anyone else was an "elitist" as it was not my intention to do so.  I actually agree with you entirely that a feature devoted to individual collection photos is not and should not be front page news.  I look at people's collections with wonder and amazement (and envy, I'll admit), but at the same time, if I don't go to JD, GH, or Yakface every day specifically for that.  It has gotten to a point where I don't even go to RS at all anymore, partially due to the ******* in charge, and partially due to the fact that their idea of news is some guy's Darth Vader collection in Abu-Dhabi and how those ROTS Star Cases are flying out the door!   ::)

Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 19, 2005, 06:53 PM
They have a total of 15 advertisements on their site. JD has 9 and GH has 8.

TheForce.net, Pillup's other site, is pretty much StarWarsShop.com's title page.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: jadesfire on September 19, 2005, 08:56 PM
If any of you guys want to see your collections displayed on our front page, just pm or email me and let me know where to find some pics (or email them to me) and I will be more than happy to post them. We tried to do this a while back and had no takers... maybe now is a better time to try?

Here are shots of my collection.  Some are individual shots of sabers, some are shots of my son's room and some are shots of costumes and conventions.  Of course, now that I am moving I will have a ton of new shots once my house is complete.  :D



click me (http://community.webshots.com/user/twilzia)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JoshEEE on September 19, 2005, 09:02 PM
This topic is rather disturbing to me.

I understand there's a lot of dislike for that particular site, but I think the "Collectors Collections" feature is an awesome thing and just another Reason I hit that front page often and don't go straight to the forums.  RS, GH and JD pretty much mirror the same news whenever it comes out these days (I'm waiting for the JD post about the Wal Mart bonus pack to pop up on the front page any minute now). So I'm not just visiting the main page over there for the news.


I like looking at other people's collections.  Many are bigger than mine. Many or not. I certainly don't look down my noses at the guys whose small collections make the front page.  I don't think they deserve that small "honor" any less than the "Philips" of the world who clearly have more money to blow on their collection than most of us put together.   And I like seeing his stuff too.  It's neat to see how someone with money can make even crappy POTF2 figures look valuable.

I always talk about how I'd love to post my collection images someday. I keep wanting to finish my room before I do it, but after reading this, I feel even more assured that I HAVE to do that.

I'd hate to feel like my collection wasn't deemed "Worthy" of the front page when I finally did post it.


Sheesh guys.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JediMAC on September 19, 2005, 09:19 PM
This topic is rather disturbing to me...

Sheesh guys.

But that collection from Turkey there is admittedly pretty weak...  :-\

(http://www.rebelscum.com/collections/firat/CIMG1198.jpg)

Sorry.  I take it back then.  This collector's collection is... uh... pretty... eclectic.  Yeah, that's what I meant.

 :P

- M
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 19, 2005, 09:29 PM
Yeah. Those peeled off stickers are da bomb.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: john todd on September 19, 2005, 09:36 PM
easy does it on ragging on other people's collections.  especially posting actual pictures.  these might not be gus or joseph y's collections, but someone was proud enough to submit them.

ultimately the real answer is not to bash the collections posted, but to get your kick ass collections posted instead.

and, if you wanna see the super collections you will have to watch for limelighting in the vintage section at rs.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Chris on September 19, 2005, 09:50 PM
I think all of the ragging going on in here is pretty ******. While it may be stupid filler for RS to post every collection posted, I don't think anyone has the right to call someones collection stupid or not worthy. A collection can be anything... a collection of coins, a collection of trash, a collection of bottles of piss. It's still a collection and while you may not think it is all that much, it doesn't really matter what you think.

The original topic started off fine but quickly derailed into bitching about RebelScum (imagine that) and now a ****fest on fellow collector's collections. I'm actually kind of ashamed that this kind of crap is posted here.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Hemish on September 19, 2005, 09:55 PM
The collections of some maybe small but its the fact that they are proud of it.
They love their starwars and got some of its stuff, the person might be a small kid with just a few items.
Man i remember when i first started my first collection pic was weak, it was a bantha,atst about 10 figures and about 12 micro machines.
We all start somewhere, who knows these guys might turn into mega power collectors that will put us all to shame.
As for them on the main page , i dont think thats needed maybe just a note to say collectors collections have been updated.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 19, 2005, 10:06 PM
Chris, this is your house and if I have crossed a line, I do apologize to you and to everyone else. 

As I said earlier in the thread, a Burger King crown might be a person's favorite collectible and mean as much to them as some very expensive or rare piece.  As long as what the person has makes them happy, that's all that matters, and it's not my place to judge them for it.  :-[
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Darth Broem on September 19, 2005, 10:08 PM
Well I think RS is just trying to put something "fresh" on it's news page instead of letting it get stagnant with nothing there for a few days.   No offense to JD in anyway shape or form but sometimes I wonder at times if the JD frontpage is going to get updated at times.  That is probably because I also check RS everday and notice it is updated with something.  It just appears to be updated more.  


AS far as the collections themselves go I just click on those pics to see the stuff.  I don't really give a crap how good or bad it's displayed.  It's mostly all Star Wars stuff so it can't be to bad to look at or snicker at!  Obviously you can tell who  has a really nice display or tons of stuff.  But bid deal it's all SW in the end.  

Personally I can't afford to display my stuff the way I want to.  Hell I barely have enough extra money to buy merchandise that I want.  Hopefully nobody will piss and moan about my collection because of that.  Ha-ha!  If you do then you suck on it.  LOL!  

 
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 19, 2005, 10:29 PM
a collection of bottles of piss


 :-[ :-[ :-[

Thanks for confirming this as being normal.

 :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 19, 2005, 10:39 PM
Chris, this is your house and if I have crossed a line, I do apologize to you and to everyone else. 

As I said earlier in the thread, a Burger King crown might be a person's favorite collectible and mean as much to them as some very expensive or rare piece.  As long as what the person has makes them happy, that's all that matters, and it's not my place to judge them for it.  :-[

I don't think you have anything to apologize for, Michael.  You made it clear that collections big or small are important to their owners, and that's what really matters. 

Do they all "deserve" front page coverage?  Maybe not, but that's not really the point.  I've been unimpressed with some of the collections, but maybe it's because it's a younger collector with limited funds or a foreign collector with little access to the toys.  Like Jeff mentioned, I don't imagine it's easy for a guy in Turkey to collect Star Wars.

And yeah, it seems that things degraded to a RS bitchfest, which does get old sometimes.  Hey, if I had Philip's money, I'd buy the house next door and convert it into my own personal Star Wars museum.  But I don't have the money.  So I can't.  That being said, I'm not in anyway condoning how he treats some of his forum members, but I do credit some of the RS staff for showcasing some of the smaller and more unique collections.

So I'll spin it this way.  What does RS do that you like?  What does RS not do that you'd like to see at JD?  I'm looking for actual constructive ideas, not "Phil ******* sucks". 
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Ben on September 19, 2005, 10:43 PM
The only reason I go to RS is to check out that feature. I don't care about the size or how well it's displayed. I'll wager if I took pics of my current setup, it'd be the most disorganized mess you've ever seen.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 19, 2005, 10:45 PM
RS, GH and JD pretty much mirror the same news whenever it comes out these days (I'm waiting for the JD post about the Wal Mart bonus pack to pop up on the front page any minute now).

Thanks, Josh, for discrediting my work.  I'll have you know that it was forum member Commander Cody that brought the bonus DVD to our attention, so I looked into it and didn't see it posted at any other of the bigger sites at that moment, including Rebelscum.  So it appears that it took me 5 minutes longer to create the newspost, but I busted my ass to look into this and confirm some of the details.

In just the same way that you say people shouldn't discredit other people's collections, I say you shouldn't discredit other people's efforts to report the news.  If you knew how many times we'd beaten RS to the bunch on breaking news, you'd swallow your ******* words.  
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Rob on September 19, 2005, 10:55 PM
I'd like to clarify that I didn't mean to imply that someone's collection wasn't worthy or worthwhile - what does drive me crazy is when people take no care in displaying collections... and this is just a personal preference.  Presentation and attention to detail is a big part of my work and my upbringing and seeing things haphazardly thrown together into a pile of odds and ends irks the retentaive side of me....

So there.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2005, 11:21 PM
Personally I agree that it's not always worth frontpage news, whether it moves the front page or not.  I can't say our front page has ever sat any length of time with our current staff we have, and if it has it's been the same at other sites (who've maybe thrown some flimsy "news" together for their front page, which is fine, but I also know it's not our style to make **** up just to move a story).

The Collector's Collections stories are fine, but I know I never look at them myself (not my cup of tea to look at other people's rooms with any level of interest).  I also know I certainly wouldn't be interested in them if they weren't put together well either...  To that end I actually applaud Wise's display, it's nice.  But I have to say in the same vein that SOME collections just look "meh" posted on the front page...  be it due to the age of the collector, or his/her location.

Speaking from a vintage standpoint (my own), I wouldn't go gloating to Gus Lopez about how great my **** is because I know he'd look at it and be like, "meh, yeah, nice..." since I have much less and nothing he doesn't own in triplicate probably.  So am I a dickhole for saying "that's really not interesting to me" when I see something displayed haphazardly with a few common figures, some old micromachines stuff, etc.?  I don't think so, it's just not INTERESTING to me so I pass it over and I tend not to look at that as really impressing me on their front page (or anyone's, I just don't see it as a good reason to use front page space).  That's a matter of taste in how you run things though, that's all.

Personally I think anyone's collection is great in that it's what they have and are proud of, and it's good to be encouraging to all collectors of course.  But not everyone's stuff needs a "spotlight" shined down upon it "just to move the news along".  I feel that way about customizing, I feel that way about this hobby...  Hell, I feel that way about cars (how many times have you seen some POS someone's proud of and you are laughing in your mind at their "hard work" because all it is, ultimately, is a Honda Civic with a nice big wing and some stickers?  Right...  It's the same basic principle).  The basis for this topic has never been something that piqued my interests at their site though...  Kind of like Ebay specials and stuff.  It's generally always struck me as being as "empty" as posting nothing on your front page, but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 19, 2005, 11:26 PM
Yeah, I don't think I bitched about RS in general, or really ragged on people. I just stand by my opinion that a collection on the front page of a SW news site should be at least a little creative.

Hell, I'd rather see a handful of figures set up in such a way that shows a little imagination, rather than a bunch of odds and ends jammed into an old shelf. Again, just my opinion. It has nothing to do with Phillip Wise or any other part of RS except that section.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Scott on September 19, 2005, 11:45 PM
Here's my Collection...I've sold everything I have to buy bottles of JD and traded the rest for SFG's old stuff.  It was a good deal

(http://www.antiquemystique.com/images/5062_jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: DSJ™ on September 19, 2005, 11:53 PM
A collection can be anything... a collection of bottles of piss. It's still a collection and while you may not think it is all that much, it doesn't really matter what you think.

I'm damn proud of my collection of urine.  :-X
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Jesse James on September 20, 2005, 12:22 AM
Scott's collection is great because he has the elusive "Yellow camouflaged Stormtrooper".

What's so great about that figure?

It was made exclusively to go with your urine collection.  Obviously Dale is jealous.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JoshEEE on September 20, 2005, 02:09 AM
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So it appears that it took me 5 minutes longer to create the newspost, but I busted my ass to look into this and confirm some of the details.

In just the same way that you say people shouldn't discredit other people's collections, I say you shouldn't discredit other people's efforts to report the news.  If you knew how many times we'd beaten RS to the bunch on breaking news, you'd swallow your ******* words.   

Jesus dude, don't get your panties in a knot. 

Read my post again.  What I said was "RS, GH and JD pretty much mirror the same news whenever it comes out these days ".  I didn't say anyone did it BETTER, or that YOU did it WRONG. I was simply stating that if you're looking for news, you can get it at all the collecting sites, usually within minutes of each other.  I was speculating that that Wal Mart story (then the top story at RS) would be here in a matter of minutes, and sure enough.....there it is.

My point was....There's no one site that gets all "the scoops".  This is the internet, and information is instaneous. If one of them has the news, if it's any good then all of them have it within the hour. 

I was in no way slandering your incredible reporting skills.....which I'm sure are considerable.  But if it makes you feel better, consider "My ******* words" eaten......because I never meant them that way to begin with.


Moving back to my point, all I was TRYING to say....is I don't go to the front page of RS just for news. I like to look at the polls, the little interviews or photo reviews...and yes, the collections.  Even though some aren't as impressive as others, I still enjoy seeing how people have their gear set up.  Yeah, when I see a picture of some guy's shelf with 6 things on it, that might bring a little chuckle out....but I sure as hell don't go tell the guy he sucks because he was kind enough to share it.  It's like when someone posts their picture here.  I don't jump into the thread and call them ugly.....even if they are.  And I thank most of you for refraining from doing so whenever you see my pictures.  I already know what a geek I am, and I'm fine with it. ;D


As for the "******" collections, hey....my collection looked like that at one time.

I remember when I had just 5 figures and that was it, because I couldn't find any more.  The only place I could find them was at comic shops, where they cost 15 bucks each, and I couldn't afford that kind of money.  So for the longest time, despite multiple trips to Wal Mart and Toys R Us, I had my Luke, Han, Stormtrooper, Vader and Lando proudly displayed on my wall.  I couldn't find my Leia, Ben, Yoda or the other "rare" guys ......so my "collection" was 5 figures thumb tacked to my bedroom wall next to a Star Wars poster I won with the balloon darts at the fair.   I didn't have ships (they cost too much). I didn't have 12" guys, because they were (gasp) 20 dollars.   I had my 5 figures, and to me, that was cool.
 
That's what I could afford at the time, and seeing collections like that today always make me think of the "early days" and smile.  These days I have a whole ******* room of my house devoted not just to Star Wars toys, but any other collection that strikes my fancy. I'm an opener, but I have so many toys now that there are hundreds of figures just WAITING for me to open them down there.

It's a long way from the 5 figures.

To see you guys acting like it's some sort of a travesty against the "news" to see these sorts of "beginners" collections.....I don't know, I see it as rather elitist.   

Chris said it best:

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It's still a collection and while you may not think it is all that much, it doesn't really matter what you think.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JediMAC on September 20, 2005, 02:18 AM
Jesus dude, don't get your panties in a knot.

I'd say JV's panties aren't the only ones in a twist here...  ;)

Here's my Collection...I've sold everything I have to buy bottles of JD and traded the rest for SFG's old stuff.  It was a good deal

(http://www.antiquemystique.com/images/5062_jpg.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JoshEEE on September 20, 2005, 04:13 AM
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I'd say JV's panties aren't the only ones in a twist here...

Well, mine are always in a knot about something, aren't they?  ;D

Today it's the cause of defending these poor guys who post their pictures up and get slammed on by folks that think they're not "newsworthy".

BTW...I think JD should start up a collections section.  RS has been talking about doing it for years, why don't you guys beat them to the punch?  Make a forum where people can post and update pictures or something.  I'd love to see KBZs armies, as I know they put mine to shame.

Hell...maybe I'll post the half packaged, jumbled mess that is my collection room that I know will never be finished before I move again.  ;D
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 20, 2005, 04:32 AM

BTW...I think JD should start up a collections section. 


You mean like right here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=17.0)?   :-*
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2005, 06:09 AM


BTW...I think JD should start up a collections section. 


I think that would be a fantastic idea.

 ;)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Vator on September 20, 2005, 07:04 AM
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I think all of the ragging going on in here is pretty ******. While it may be stupid filler for RS to post every collection posted, I don't think anyone has the right to call someones collection stupid or not worthy. A collection can be anything... a collection of coins, a collection of trash, a collection of bottles of piss. It's still a collection and while you may not think it is all that much, it doesn't really matter what you think.

The original topic started off fine but quickly derailed into bitching about RebelScum (imagine that) and now a ****fest on fellow collector's collections. I'm actually kind of ashamed that this kind of crap is posted here.
Couldn't have said it better myself, Chris.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 20, 2005, 10:17 AM
Again...

This thread was not intended to rip on people that don't have alot of SW figures. As I said several times before in this thread, everyone started somewhere. However, I wouldn't expect Road & Track (http://www.roadandtrack.com/) to do a photo feature of my old Ford Escort from college on the front page of their website.

Nowhere in this thread did I rag on anyone, except my hypothetical example. I just think the news should be newsworthy. If that's elitist, then so be it. Obviously everyone's colllection is precious to them. If someone made their collection room look like the Mos Eisley Cantina, that would be newsworthy. If someone makes some mini dioramas for displaying their figures (as I mentioned before about CHEWIE and Daigo-Bah) that would be newsworthy. I just think a photo-feature on the front page of a news site should at least make you think "hey, that's pretty cool. I may have to try something like that!"

JD does it best, with a collections area in the forums. I hope that if JD ever runs collector's collections on the front page of the site, they be a little more selective than RS has been. Would you rather have visitors to your site look at the link to the Jedidefender Collectors' Collections (example) feature and think "Wow, these are always really cool. I wonder what they've found this time" or would you prefer "Meh, I think I'll go check out the Captain Typho fan club newsletter instead".

It just seems like quality over quantity is the way to go with these.

 
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2005, 01:59 PM
Well all I have to say is "All you JD morons are a dime a dozen and you're all belligerent as hell."

Since we're deriving topics from that other site, thought I'd throw one of their quotes out there.

 :D
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: jjks on September 20, 2005, 02:24 PM
Seems like I've heard that somewhere before...
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JoshEEE on September 20, 2005, 02:53 PM
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You mean like right here?

Oh sure, I bring it to your attention and 5 minutes later there's a whole section for it. Next you're going to tell me you've been working on that for years and I just didn't notice it.

Like I am that unobservant or something.  Right. ;D
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 20, 2005, 03:53 PM
JD should have a dedicated page outside of the forums for collection pictures and they should update daily like Rebelscum. That would be wonderful.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2005, 04:04 PM
JD should have a dedicated page outside of the forums for collection pictures and they should update daily like Rebelscum. That would be wonderful.

We already have a section set up for it outside of the forums:  http://www.jedidefender.com/collections.php


Like Dave said, we have already tried that...

If any of you guys want to see your collections displayed on our front page, just pm or email me and let me know where to find some pics (or email them to me) and I will be more than happy to post them. We tried to do this a while back and had no takers... maybe now is a better time to try?

It's just hard to update it when no one sends us their pictures...  :-X
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 20, 2005, 04:47 PM
Take the pictures from the forum section and post a call-out for collection pics! I'm sure you'll get some response.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Diddly on September 20, 2005, 06:06 PM
Here's my Collection...I've sold everything I have to buy bottles of JD and traded the rest for SFG's old stuff.  It was a good deal

(http://www.antiquemystique.com/images/5062_jpg.jpg)

You mean you didn't send the figures to Bilbo?!?
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: jokabofe on September 20, 2005, 07:35 PM
Take the pictures from the forum section and post a call-out for collection pics! I'm sure you'll get some response.

I've posted call-outs for collection pics more times than I care to remember. And I'm not about to start crawling through the forum section and grabbing people's pics... if you want your collection hosted and showcased here on our site, just send me an email or pm with a link to where I can grab your pics. That's it. Nothing more. I'll do the rest. Tried it tons of times... never a response.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: BillCable on September 20, 2005, 08:45 PM
I think that the reason most of the major collectors don't contribute to these sorts of things is because they don't want to deal with the attention.  I mean, I know a lot of guys who won't even acknowledge that certain pieces are in their collections.  They don't want to deal with all the annoying questions and offers to buy their stuff.  So they just share within their little circle.  Then there's the "I can't believe you paid $1000 for a piece of plastic" crowd they'd have to hear from.  So why go through the trouble of taking the photographs when the only people who will appreciate them don't stray from the RS Vintage forums?

I've considered sending in photos myself, but always end up thinking "Do I want everyone who goes to RS to know I have all this expensive stuff in my house?"  And I always come to the same conclusion.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Mister Skeezler on September 20, 2005, 10:26 PM
I think that the reason most of the major collectors don't contribute to these sorts of things is because they don't want to deal with the attention.  I mean, I know a lot of guys who won't even acknowledge that certain pieces are in their collections.  They don't want to deal with all the annoying questions and offers to buy their stuff.  So they just share within their little circle.  Then there's the "I can't believe you paid $1000 for a piece of plastic" crowd they'd have to hear from.  So why go through the trouble of taking the photographs when the only people who will appreciate them don't stray from the RS Vintage forums?

I've considered sending in photos myself, but always end up thinking "Do I want everyone who goes to RS to know I have all this expensive stuff in my house?"  And I always come to the same conclusion.

That's a great point.

I personally have probably less than 20 vintage figures in my collection, and they're all from when I was a kid. They're played with, loose and worn. I plan on putting them in some sort of shadow box and hanging them on the wall, but that's something that would only be special or interesting to me and those who know me well.

My modern collection is pretty much complete. There's a handful of things I don't have, like force flippers and Toyfair Vader, but I do have a very comprehensive loose collection. Sure I have a few odds and ends that will remain packaged, but the majority is loose.

When I submit pics of my collection, I'll include the things that I feel the community here would like to see. And I won't submit until I have things assembled in such a way that (hopefully) people will enjoy seeing.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Jim on September 21, 2005, 07:33 AM
I think that the reason most of the major collectors don't contribute to these sorts of things is because they don't want to deal with the attention.  I mean, I know a lot of guys who won't even acknowledge that certain pieces are in their collections.  They don't want to deal with all the annoying questions and offers to buy their stuff.

I had the same thing happen a few years ago when I posted pics on that other site.  People asking for certain figs.  I even had this one person who was really belligerent insisting I sell him (at a cheaper price) a bunch of figs because I hoarded them.  He sent about 6 really nasty and sometimes threatening emails.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JoshEEE on September 21, 2005, 01:54 PM
That's it. I'm NEVER posting my armies.  ;D
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Commander Cody on September 21, 2005, 02:40 PM
I think that the reason most of the major collectors don't contribute to these sorts of things is because they don't want to deal with the attention.  I mean, I know a lot of guys who won't even acknowledge that certain pieces are in their collections.  They don't want to deal with all the annoying questions and offers to buy their stuff.

I had the same thing happen a few years ago when I posted pics on that other site.  People asking for certain figs.  I even had this one person who was really belligerent insisting I sell him (at a cheaper price) a bunch of figs because I hoarded them.  He sent about 6 really nasty and sometimes threatening emails.


That's sick.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Jesse James on September 21, 2005, 11:48 PM
I seem to recall some *******-ishness that took place over army builder pictures.  Rob, if you read this did you ever catch any **** privately from people?  I'm an army builder and even I wanna send Rob a scathing PM.   :P
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: jokabofe on September 22, 2005, 09:12 AM
I remember getting a few nasty pm's and emails over some of the pics I posted of my Imperial Army...

(http://www.p3donline.com/collection/imperials_old.jpg)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 22, 2005, 10:05 AM
Nice picture. I can't imagine anyone getting that bent out of shape as to harrass someone because they have more than you, but then again, some people are very small.
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Darth Broem on September 22, 2005, 11:17 AM
Actually the main reason I do not share pics of my collection is that it is not really displayed very well.  I need to have a room devoted to the stuff but I have so much SW junk I don't think it would display nicely regardless.  I really need to devote my money into getting a display case or two or three.  That and about a gazillion stands for loose figs.  But money is tight right now.  If I want to spend money I would rather spend it on some merchandise I don't have right now. 

That and the fact that I can't seem to ever get a picture posted on here correctly since I suck at computers :)
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JoshEEE on September 22, 2005, 11:31 AM
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I remember getting a few nasty pm's and emails over some of the pics I posted of my Imperial Army...

You damn hoarder!  I don't have enough Stormtroopers..you need to send me half of yours right now so I can have more than you!

Damnit!
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Jeff on September 22, 2005, 11:38 AM
You don't even have to post pictures, just talking about army building habits can get you hate-mail from people who want to call you a scalper or a hoarder or something.   ::)

The reason Bill listen is one of the main reasons I've held off on posting my collection room photos.  I've got some pretty sweet stuff and I don't want a lot of strangers knowing what I've got and where I've got it.  I also don't want to deal with the hassel of the "grabbers" trying to buy figures off me and such.

I've been meaning to post pictures here for quite some time, but I'm just too lazy to do it I guess...  :P
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: Jim on September 22, 2005, 03:37 PM
Regarding collections. Does anyone know of any places that carry display cases like this?  They have these at www.giovanniplastics.com and they are really nice but pricey at $125 shipped.  Dimensions are 36" wide by 24" high.  Im looking for about 6 but dont want to drop $800.

(http://www.giovanniplastics.com/10drag.JPG
)

I remember a site that sold the exact cabinet about $15 cheaper but cannot find them for the life of me.  Anyone familiar?  A GI Joe store that used to be around called 375  Toys used to have the same cabinet but they are now out of busines.  I bought one and I believe Scott here bougth one as well. 
Title: Re: Collectors Collections (at RS)
Post by: JoshEEE on September 24, 2005, 03:36 PM
We have a chain around here that will custom make any case you want.   I'm not sure where you're located, but they have tons of outlets.


http://www.tapplastics.com/
Title: R-SA Today
Post by: Diddly on November 7, 2005, 06:00 PM
I hate to push the RS buttons again, but I really thought that this was worth posting.

"Jedi Council of Fans" Selects Top 5 Star Wars Moments (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-11-01-star-wars-moments_x.htm)

Philip Wise has to be the oldest looking 28 year old I've ever seen. Yikes!
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: CorranHorn on November 7, 2005, 06:54 PM
Well that's a powerful reason to stop collecting...

So on a serious note about the article (sorry Diddly, I know you're going for the funny here), am I the only one who finds the last comment about ROTJ to be full of ****?

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5. Saving Luke's life, Vader is redeemed

Episode VI: The Return of the Jedi Chapter 43; 1 hour, 55 minutes

"It is the reason we sit through 12 hours of Star Wars," says Dave Myatt, 32, of Vancouver, B.C.

Ummm no, we didn't sit through 6 hours of Star Wars to see Luke's life saved and Vader to be redeemed. We sat through it to see the evolution of a boy into a man, to see the culmination of his destiny to forever change the galaxy. It just so happened his father was redeemed along the way. Bah, I so hate revisionism!
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Jesse James on November 7, 2005, 07:04 PM
Yeah, looking at it from the perspective of someone who saw the classics first, I agree with that Jason.  Vader's redemption wasn't on my mind watching SW for quite a while.  It means something now, but didn't in 1983 and was really surprising if anything.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Chris on November 7, 2005, 07:05 PM
I hate to push the RS buttons again, but I really thought that this was worth posting.

"Jedi Council of Fans" Selects Top 5 Star Wars Moments (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-11-01-star-wars-moments_x.htm)

Philip Wise has to be the oldest looking 28 year old I've ever seen. Yikes!

The author is dyslexic.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: CorranHorn on November 7, 2005, 07:12 PM
Yeah, looking at it from the perspective of someone who saw the classics first, I agree with that Jason.  Vader's redemption wasn't on my mind watching SW for quite a while.  It means something now, but didn't in 1983 and was really surprising if anything.

It just bothers me so much when people claim that the entire Saga was about Vader, even 20 years ago. Yeah I can sorta see the point now with the PT involved, but when it was just the OT the story was Luke's and Luke's alone. Vader was the bad guy plain and simple until the very end, then yeah he had a change of heart but that wasn't the apex of the story. And really in hindsight, should the redemption of a man who murdered little children in cold blood be the selling point of any movie?
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Jesse James on November 8, 2005, 12:41 AM
I do see the POV of it being about Vader and I really look at it that way too, but given my age I never looked at Vader as anything but the villain prior to prequal-mania.  So to that end the Classic Trilogy still has a focal point around Luke over Anakin to me, and Vader becomes secondary through most of the story.

The prequals are cool but my interpretation of the series definitely breaks the "focus" between Luke and Vader, not just Vader being what it's all about...  He's merely 50% in my book.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: BillCable on November 8, 2005, 01:09 PM
Myatt's quote is pretty terrible.  It makes it sound as if we were forced to suffer through half a day of tedium in order to experience this big pay-off.  First of all, nobody that was born prior to May 2005 even had the capability to sit through 12 hours of Star Wars for this big pay-off.  I sat through six hours to get to Vader's redemption.  I'm sure everyone else here did, too.  So the quote is inaccurate.

But mostly it just diminishes the whole Saga.  We don't just sit through it, we delve into it.  We savor it.  We go back to it over and over and over again.  We watch the movies to watch the movies, not just to get to the end.

Dave must have been trying to sound clever, and it came off poorly.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 8, 2005, 01:47 PM
Yeah, looking at it from the perspective of someone who saw the classics first, I agree with that Jason.  Vader's redemption wasn't on my mind watching SW for quite a while.  It means something now, but didn't in 1983 and was really surprising if anything.

It just bothers me so much when people claim that the entire Saga was about Vader, even 20 years ago. Yeah I can sorta see the point now with the PT involved, but when it was just the OT the story was Luke's and Luke's alone. Vader was the bad guy plain and simple until the very end, then yeah he had a change of heart but that wasn't the apex of the story. And really in hindsight, should the redemption of a man who murdered little children in cold blood be the selling point of any movie?

That's a good point. How is this different from the serial killer who repents on the way to the electric chair?

I agree with most of you about the trilogy not originally being about Vader. Anyone who tells you that they knew in 1983 that the Saga would be about Vader is BS-ing and just trying to look smart. I see the OT as the growing up of Luke and him realizing his destiny, not the death of the villian. While the PT has tried to change the entire Saga to the story of Vader, the OT is definitely Luke's tale.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Tracy on November 8, 2005, 02:56 PM
Vader was the bad guy plain and simple until the very end, then yeah he had a change of heart but that wasn't the apex of the story. And really in hindsight, should the redemption of a man who murdered little children in cold blood be the selling point of any movie?
Not necessarily, but the fact that people CAN be redeemed by their acts and the forgivness of others is an important part of most religions and cultures.  It is the crux of Christianity -- repenting and asking for forgiveness of sins.


I agree with most of you about the trilogy not originally being about Vader. Anyone who tells you that they knew in 1983 that the Saga would be about Vader is BS-ing and just trying to look smart. I see the OT as the growing up of Luke and him realizing his destiny, not the death of the villian. While the PT has tried to change the entire Saga to the story of Vader, the OT is definitely Luke's tale.

I believe that the Saga is about Anakin/Vader, though it is not something I knew before the PT, except as hinted at by GL.  I, too, see it as a coming of age story about Luke, though Vader's sacrifice at the end of ROTJ was very moving to me.  I see the OT as Luke's PART of the tale (I just wish Leia would have had more involvement with Vaderkin's redemption.)

Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: JoshEEE on November 8, 2005, 03:35 PM
My first thought when I saw that USA today asked a bunch of folks I know for their thoughts on the saga was "Cool".  Not "what lame opinions they have".

If for some reason a national (worldwide even) newspaper ever cares enough about my opinion to ask me for it, I suppose it will also be scrutinized by people who know me on message board too.  However, I guess ideally I'd like to think that you guys would say "Hey, cool...they interviewed Josh".   ;D
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 8, 2005, 04:42 PM
My first thought when I saw that USA today asked a bunch of folks I know for their thoughts on the saga was "Cool".  Not "what lame opinions they have".

If for some reason a national (worldwide even) newspaper ever cares enough about my opinion to ask me for it, I suppose it will also be scrutinized by people who know me on message board too.  However, I guess ideally I'd like to think that you guys would say "Hey, cool...they interviewed Josh".   ;D

How did they get Philip and Dave anyway? Does anyone know?

Oh and Josh, rest assured we'd ridicule you as well brother  8)
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Chris on November 8, 2005, 05:10 PM

How did they get Philip and Dave anyway? Does anyone know?

They have their hands [and wallets] dipped in everything so it's hard to tell.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: JoshEEE on November 8, 2005, 05:42 PM
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How did they get Philip and Dave anyway? Does anyone know?

If I had to wager a guess, I'd say they found them through TFN or RS.  They are two of the biggest "fan-run" sites on the web.

Personally...I'd rather see people like that on a "Jedi-council" than some stupid celebrity that happens to like Star Wars.   Isn't that who they usually interview for stuff like that? 

I mean, imagine the quotes if it was Wilmer whatshisface from That 70's show, or Ashlee Simpson or something.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: JediMAC on November 8, 2005, 05:47 PM
How did they get Philip and Dave anyway? Does anyone know?

All 5 of those people "randomly" sampled there are from RS or it's sister site, TFN.  Not surprising.  USA today just contacted Phillip or their site, and that was it.

That 28 year old bit from Phillip there is pretty funny though.  I wonder if he honestly told them he was 28, instead of 60-something, or if they just goofed...
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: SilverZ on November 8, 2005, 08:01 PM
I'm sure he told them that not to out himself as a retirement-age fanboy, but an in-his-prime one. I mean, does anyone doubt his vanity?

I'm sure the paper contacted Wise through TFN and he forwarded the reporter to the other quoters. USA Today has been using the net for quotes for a long time. They got my name off alt.dvd way back in 1997 for a DVD article, so I can only imagine how reliant they are on fan outlets for quotes now.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: jadesfire on November 8, 2005, 08:18 PM
I hate to push the RS buttons again, but I really thought that this was worth posting.

"Jedi Council of Fans" Selects Top 5 Star Wars Moments (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-11-01-star-wars-moments_x.htm)

Philip Wise has to be the oldest looking 28 year old I've ever seen. Yikes!

The author is dyslexic.

Dammit....I just spit Coke all over my keyboard....thanks for the laugh :)
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 8, 2005, 08:28 PM
If Phillip is 28, then I'm still in utero.  And damn, I can't wait to get out of this thing.
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Tracy on November 8, 2005, 08:44 PM
If Phillip is 28, then I'm still in utero.  And damn, I can't wait to get out of this thing.

So you can spend all of your time trying to get back in? :-X
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Angry Ewok on November 9, 2005, 10:22 AM
Philip Wise is 28 - it's because of his evil that he looks so aged.

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My first thought when I saw that USA today asked a bunch of folks I know for their thoughts on the saga was "Cool".  Not "what lame opinions they have".

So was "What lame opinions they have" the second thing you thought?
Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: JoshEEE on November 9, 2005, 12:52 PM
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So was "What lame opinions they have" the second thing you thought?
'

Nah. I didn't re-read (and add in the scrutiny) until I saw all the comments here.

Title: Re: R-SA Today
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 9, 2005, 01:19 PM
Philip Wise is 28 - it's because of his evil that he looks so aged.


Aahh...the answer was right under our nose and we didn't see it! Sort of like the Jedi...

(http://img40.echo.cx/img40/1869/youwilldie7tv.gif)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on November 14, 2005, 11:07 PM
My account appears to be missing again. 

I'm getting this message:

Login Name/Password not found


Is their site down or am I the only one having trouble?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: DSJ™ on November 14, 2005, 11:21 PM
There site is down, I can't get in. Just an SQL ERROR.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on November 14, 2005, 11:25 PM
Okay, I'll assume that's it until further notice.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 15, 2005, 12:18 AM
Scum has been screwed up off and on a lot over the last month  ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 15, 2005, 02:25 AM
Scum has been screwed up off and on a lot over the last month  ::)

RS has been screwed up for only the last month?  ;)

Anyway, yep, SQL error and I get the same message about my account being deleted?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 15, 2005, 09:37 AM
Yeah, lots of technical issues as of late, especially yesterday. Took forever to access pages.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on November 15, 2005, 10:23 AM
Haha. I love it.

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 15, 2005, 12:29 PM
Their forum software has grown beyond itself and gained self-awareness, and even it realizes it should leave.   ;)

God hates the other God.



Did anyone notice GNT's most recent post count? 

32,957 

 :D


HOLY CRAP! That's just sad!

Do you think he'd cry if his post count and all of his posts were deleted?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 15, 2005, 03:50 PM
Their forum software has grown beyond itself and gained self-awareness, and even it realizes it should leave.   ;)

God hates the other God.



Did anyone notice GNT's most recent post count? 

32,957 

 :D


HOLY CRAP! That's just sad!

Do you think he'd cry if his post count and all of his posts were deleted?

That number is a few months old; as of today, he has 34645 posts  :o
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on November 15, 2005, 03:53 PM
Quote
HOLY CRAP! That's just sad!

Do you think he'd cry if his post count and all of his posts were deleted?

I doubt he cares. These days, most of his posts are confined to just a few sections of the boards.  He's not the same kid he was back when he was on the tear to be "the Emperor".

Amazing what simply hiding the post counts did for that whole mess.

As humorous as it might be, I think if his posts were deleted, RS would have some huge holes. Can you imagine all the threads there would be with big chunks out of them?

Then again, who goes around digging up 3 year old threads anyway?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: CHEWIE on November 15, 2005, 04:23 PM
I think GNT has grown up quite a bit actually, from what I have seen over the last year.

 :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 15, 2005, 06:04 PM
I think GNT has grown up quite a bit actually, from what I have seen over the last year.

 :P

That is true, he has changed. I think once he became a mod he backed off a lot on his posting. How old is he?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 15, 2005, 06:26 PM
How old is he?

19

(though he falsely claims to be in his mid-30's)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 15, 2005, 08:12 PM
How old is he?

19

(though he falsely claims to be in his mid-30's)

I'm not doubting you at all, but how do you know?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 15, 2005, 10:03 PM
I think GNT has grown up quite a bit actually, from what I have seen over the last year.

 :P

I can't agree...  GNT still posts one-line replies just to see himself speaking, he still over-moderates, etc...  He's slacked off on his posting which is fine, but he had more problems socially than spamming.  Plus given what arrogance I saw out of him over time, both publicly and privately, I can't say I'll ever look at him with an ounce of respect.  He's shown none to me or others, so I have no need to do so for him.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on November 16, 2005, 04:57 AM
All my posts are gone....
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 16, 2005, 05:14 AM
How old is he?

19

(though he falsely claims to be in his mid-30's)

I'm not doubting you at all, but how do you know?

Because a couple of us did some digging a year or two ago, and finally located him in his high school pix in Australia (mostly Scott/OCB's fine detective work really).  He threw an absolute shitfit when we discovered his real identity, and proceeded to immediately have his high school's website edited, and then closed off to the public.  We actually tracked him down through an old e-mail address that both he and his mother were using.  It was quite the wild goose chase, but the goose was eventually cooked, and boy was Greg(g) pissed!

There's a thread in here somewhere, called "World's Greatest Mystery Solved", or something like that.

You've at least seen his picture, haven't you?  I'm sure someone can dig that up too if you missed it.  Just picture Pat Benatar with a thin moustache, and you're pretty much dead-on.  :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 16, 2005, 08:53 AM
How old is he?

19

(though he falsely claims to be in his mid-30's)

I'm not doubting you at all, but how do you know?

Because a couple of us did some digging a year or two ago, and finally located him in his high school pix in Australia (mostly Scott/OCB's fine detective work really).  He threw an absolute shitfit when we discovered his real identity, and proceeded to immediately have his high school's website edited, and then closed off to the public.  We actually tracked him down through an old e-mail address that both he and his mother were using.  It was quite the wild goose chase, but the goose was eventually cooked, and boy was Greg(g) pissed!

There's a thread in here somewhere, called "World's Greatest Mystery Solved", or something like that.

You've at least seen his picture, haven't you?  I'm sure someone can dig that up too if you missed it.  Just picture Pat Benatar with a thin moustache, and you're pretty much dead-on.  :P

That's pretty pathetic to lie about your age online for no reason  ::)

Now if you excuse me, my supermodel girlfriend(s) need my help saving the free world. Toodles!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 16, 2005, 08:56 AM
I'd LOVE to see that picture of GNT! How funny that he is so young. No wonder he doesn't have a clue on life! I'll have to try to find that thread also.

No need for a new post so here is the thread:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3152.0

Are the pictures at the end of the thread GNT?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris on November 16, 2005, 09:50 AM
How funny that he is so young. No wonder he doesn't have a clue on life!

Hey now... :-*
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 16, 2005, 09:55 AM
All my posts are gone....

Seriously? Let me know if you need any help contacting the administration about it. Somehow they were able to restore my acount when the same thing happened to me.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 16, 2005, 11:08 AM
Good job investigating him! Wow, that's some good dirt!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on November 16, 2005, 12:23 PM
I remember when that whole GNT picture discovery thread went up. Greg(G) sent me another picture of himself, which I've since deleted, but it was of someone in their 30's, at a family BBQ or something.  I remember thinking that it was weird either way (The folks at JD saying he was younger, or sending me a picture lying that he was older), but one way or the other...I guess I've seen a picture of him. 

I'll never understand people that want to spend all day on the internet, posting thousands of personal thoughts, yet are desperately afraid to disclose their identity.

Personally...I was much more impressed by the unmasking of Lady Jaye.   Old Bertha went to the ends of the earth just to keep people from even knowing her NAME, let alone seeing her pictures, so when someone here finally posted one it was nice to finally see that yes, she wasn't a dude pretending to be a girl. 

However, she's since somehow managed to get that picture and most mentions of it deleted from the thread, so I guess for anyone who didn't see it while it was up, it will remain a mystery.

 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 16, 2005, 12:35 PM
More account deletings going on today: http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1511248&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1#Post1511532%231511248

I still have never seen a picture of Jaye, nor do I even know her real name. I don't put pictures of myself all over, but if someone asks I try to dig up a pic.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 16, 2005, 12:36 PM
I think it's time for RS to fire their tech guy.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on November 16, 2005, 01:20 PM
Bertha schools near me.


I was informed at one point she would stalk me in the Isles of TRU.

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Angry Ewok on November 16, 2005, 05:54 PM
Bertha's pic is pretty boring... She didn't even pose with a lightsaber or anything.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on November 16, 2005, 06:08 PM
Bertha's pic is pretty boring... She didn't even pose with a lightsaber or anything.

Unlike our resident Ewok?

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 16, 2005, 06:17 PM
How funny that he is so young. No wonder he doesn't have a clue on life!

Hey now... :-*

I'd like to say something incredibly rude to you Chris, but my wittiness escapes me.   >:( :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 16, 2005, 06:36 PM
FYI to those affected, RS has posted an announcement. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1511875&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1511875) It provides a means of informing them of your erasure.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris on November 16, 2005, 06:46 PM
How funny that he is so young. No wonder he doesn't have a clue on life!

Hey now... :-*

I'd like to say something incredibly rude to you Chris, but my wittiness escapes me.   >:( :P

Hit me with your best.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Diddly on November 16, 2005, 09:03 PM
Anyone care to PM me the Bertha pic if they still have it? I never saw it, and I could use a laugh.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 16, 2005, 10:50 PM
Anyone care to PM me the Bertha pic if they still have it? I never saw it, and I could use a laugh.

I'd like to see it as well. Is her name really Bertha?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 17, 2005, 12:05 AM
Sorry. I didn't mean to imply that ALL young people are naive. I was trying to imply that according Erik Erikson, those from 12 to 18 face an Identity vs Role Confusion stage. During this stage adolescents face perhaps one of the most critical of crisis, the identity crisis where they try to find their identity. There are two outcomes:

Positive outcome: If the adolescent solves this conflict successfully, he will come out of this stage with a strong identity, and ready to plan for the future.
Negative outcome: If not, the adolescent will sink into confusion, unable to make decisions and choices, especially about vocation and his role in life in general.

So which outcome did GNT have according to Erikson?

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris on November 17, 2005, 12:09 AM
Sorry. I didn't mean to imply that ALL young people are naive. I was trying to imply that according Erik Erikson, those from 12 to 18 face an Identity vs Role Confusion stage. During this stage adolescents face perhaps one of the most critical of crisis, the identity crisis where they try to find their identity. There are two outcomes:

Positive outcome: If the adolescent solves this conflict successfully, he will come out of this stage with a strong identity, and ready to plan for the future.
Negative outcome: If not, the adolescent will sink into confusion, unable to make decisions and choices, especially about vocation and his role in life in general.

So which outcome did GNT have according to Erikson?



I was just giving you a hard time man. Note the smiley.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2005, 12:16 AM
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So which outcome did GNT have according to Erikson?

Was ******bag an option?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 17, 2005, 01:12 AM
ROTFL,

Chris, your cool. I saw that, just wanted to post to see where others thought that GNT is in his development. Bag might just work or hole, or . . . .
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Hemish on November 17, 2005, 02:02 AM
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So which outcome did GNT have according to Erikson?

Was ******bag an option?

I'm trying to find a six letter word to fit that, can i buy a vowel please?
Or can i have an F for Freddy please???
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 17, 2005, 02:05 AM
starts with d and ends with ouche.  ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on November 17, 2005, 02:48 AM
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So which outcome did GNT have according to Erikson?

Was ******bag an option?

I'm trying to find a six letter word to fit that, can i buy a vowel please?
Or can i have an F for Freddy please???

Turn your censor off.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2005, 04:49 AM
starts with d and ends with ouche.  ;)

Nice...  Well played sir.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Hemish on November 17, 2005, 06:31 AM
Aha the infamous Douche, not a word you hear alot of in Australia , maybe that will have to change, note to self call all ppl that piss me off a douche.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: name on November 17, 2005, 09:33 AM
Ah yes, the douche.  Named for the loud sound that resulted from the unlikely collision of a truck hauling water with a truck hauling vinegar. 

When I was in high school, I was at my best friend's house and went to get a snack from the pantry.  Right there on the same shelf with the snack cakes and the potato chips were not one, not two, but somewhere around a half dozen or more Massengale Douches.   

There was a taunting to end all tauntings.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: blaster_e11 on November 17, 2005, 11:50 AM
funny talking about weird mods and weirder poting habits you should take a look at the french site mintinbox,most of the mods act like crazy there and guys are actually keeping count of their posts, a guy with over 10 000 posts in less than 6 months was even promoted a mod ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 17, 2005, 12:39 PM
6 months!?   ::)

I guess he must think he has a lot to say.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2005, 04:22 PM
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a guy with over 10 000 posts in less than 6 months was even promoted a mod 

Hmmmm, why does that sound familiar?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2005, 04:37 PM
Since we are talking RS again this week, I guess I should let you all know that my account at RS was banned/deleted last Thursday...

Apparently, you are no longer allowed to point out any hypocrisy (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1500312&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1500312) that the RS Mods/Admins may posess.


The Admins over at RS were issuing warnings to forum members who have links in their signatures, citing this passage from the "official" RS forum rules:  "But using forum posts, or links in your signature designed to promote another Star Wars collecting website is not permitted. "

One admin in particular went so far as to say "If you truly respect the community you will choose to follow the same guidelines everyone else respects".

So, then I asked why at least 3 of the Admins/Mods over there all have links in their signatures that were "designed to promote another Star Wars collecting website "?  If they truely respected the community, shouldn't they have to follow the rules too?


And, as you can all guess - I did not get a straight answer, I only ended up with "Your account has been banned or locked" and an e-mail stating my affiliation with JD was the cause of my ban.    ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 17, 2005, 05:00 PM
Those guys are pathetically sad over there.  You asked a perfectly valid question Jeff, about "practicing what you preach" or setting an example for others to follow, and instead of their guys saying "hey, you're right, we should probably remove all of the links from our own sigs before punishing our members for having them in their sigs", they totally freak out about JD once again.  I don't get it.  Well, I do get it, but I'm still always shocked by it...

I'm also quite curious as to why they're allowing one of their moderators to openly support both scalping and pornography in the RS forums.  Now that's really bizarre...  ???
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 17, 2005, 05:17 PM
Those guys are pathetically sad over there.  You asked a perfectly valid question Jeff, about "practicing what you preach" or setting an example for others to follow, and instead of their guys saying "hey, you're right, we should probably remove all of the links from our own sigs before punishing our members for having them in their sigs", they totally freak out about JD once again.  I don't get it.  Well, I do get it, but I'm still always shocked by it...

I'm also quite curious as to why they're allowing one of their moderators to openly support both scalping and pornography in the RS forums.  Now that's really bizarre...  ???

Scum is seriously going downhill. The mods there tell you to PM them with things you have problems with, and when you do you get read reciepts but no replies; then they ignore you and continue in their ways.

All this high horse moderating bull**** is seriously making me sick. I'm not bashing you guys for bashing Scum. What I mean is that the admins at Scum are so obsessed with keeping members that anyone who mentions another site is severly scolded.  ::) Thats what I LOVE about JD; the mods and staff act like you are real and don't act condescending.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Diddly on November 17, 2005, 05:35 PM
I love how they edited Jeff's sig there.

"Webmaster and Reporter - Someplace Else"

Or did Jeff do that himself?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 17, 2005, 05:37 PM
Thats what I LOVE about JD; the mods and staff act like you are real and don't act condescending.

I look at it more as us just wanting to be part of the gang here at JD, no better and no worse than any of our "regular" members around here.  We just do a few official site duties on the side is all.  But I can pretty much guarantee you that the staff/mods here could honestly care less about silly titles, power, or any of that other nonsense, unlike at other places where that's all that seems to matter, which is unfortunate.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 17, 2005, 05:39 PM
Thats what I LOVE about JD; the mods and staff act like you are real and don't act condescending.

I look at it more as us just wanting to be part of the gang here at JD, no better and no worse than any of our "regular" members around here.  We just do a few official site duties on the side is all.  But I can pretty much guarantee you that the staff/mods here could honestly care less about silly titles, power, or any of that other nonsense, unlike at other places where that's all that seems to matter, which is unfortunate.

I feel exactly the same way. It's good to have a refuge here from the other crap that goes on at other sites!

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: blaster_e11 on November 17, 2005, 05:40 PM
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a guy with over 10 000 posts in less than 6 months was even promoted a mod 

Hmmmm, why does that sound familiar?

maybe it was one year but it's the same

on those boards you can find threads about the "10 000 posts club"

they seem very proud of it, it's really a pity they can't type French correctly
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: CHEWIE on November 17, 2005, 05:41 PM
GNT isn't exactly a role model as far as moderators go, but I do think he's better than he used to be.  Could just be that he doesn't post as much as he used to, or that I don't spend enough time there anymore to get annoyed.

Anyways, I'm surprised I haven't gotten any warnings, as me and a few other people mention this site quite a bit in their customizing section (the only section there I really visit).

 :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 17, 2005, 05:49 PM
Anyways, I'm surprised I haven't gotten any warnings, as me and a few other people mention this site quite a bit in their customizing section (the only section there I really visit).

You'll probably get a warning now, Justin, since the RS staff/admin are likely watching this very thread here.  I got banned at RS for some stuff I said about Phillip and Dustin over here at JD (it had nothing to do with me hollerin' at Matkatnadam/MisterKenobi about him bragging about his scalping, as he always loves to claim), so you may have just got yourself into some hot water here!  :P

As far as GNT goes, I probably won't ever be able to get that one response out of my head that he made publicly to some of their members:  "I'm God, so live with it."

Very reminiscent of some of Phillip's responses to "issues" over there:  "Because I said so, that's why."

Yeah, I'd say they've got some problems.  Heh.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 18, 2005, 12:33 AM
I do occassionally post there but  . . . . for the most part is to try and bring some balence to a discussion. What I've learned is that my 11 and 12 year old students in my sixth grade class are often far more mature then most of the posters there. What I think is extremely funny is how the heck can someone ban you from a site for something you did on another site? Man, talk about facism . . . but we don't want to go there. Then again, the title of the site says it all, rebelscum; ie the fact that rebels are scum and they are the empire. At least here the Jedi ideals of individuality, creativity, flexibilty are shown and welcomed! No wonder its called JediDefender!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2005, 01:29 AM
I think it's that he posts less Justin.  He still posts inanely stupid replies, one-liners, etc...  He adds little to conversation, if anything, so why speak ya know?  His arrogance though is still there clear as day, and that means he'll never be a quality moderator or member.

I read there from time to time, I go elsewhere too...  It's how I have always been.  That place has gone further and further into the abyss.  They can't control half their membership, they aren't even reactive the majority of the time to any real problem...  And like Matt said, things like scalping are pretty much accepted iwth open arms over there by not just the staff but also the membership.  That's so pathetic considering that "Collect to Collect" bull**** they claim to live by.  If that was the case, anyone gloating about ebaying **** they just bought would have gotten a warning at the very least.  It'd raise eyebrows here I can assure you.

It's depressing in a way considering what used to be there prior to Philip Wise crashing and burning that place.  Now the big thing to do is sticky your latest "ad" for your ****** overpriced clamshells you are shilling to your members.  Like I'd want Rebelscum panties or whatever the **** he's putting out there to attach his name/label to the Star Wars mythos.  If there ever was a clearer visual definition of a leech, I can't think of it.  Like old PWise said once though (loose quote), "I should have supported Lord of the Rings because they treat their fan sites better".  That summed up a lot for my forming opinion.

Jeff made a valid point, and like in the past over there he paid the price many others have.  You point out you don't want spam (which is all it was) nor your accounts being shared with anyone and you are told to either leave, shut up about it, or take your banning.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 18, 2005, 02:09 AM
Lets take a look at Gregggggs last 5 posts:

Wicked work of art, got to love CGI, can't wait till George adds more CGI to the OT  (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB8&Number=1515043&Forum=)

Goosebumps, looks the way it should be. Loooking forward to it.
 (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1515040&Forum=)

Cable  (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1513322&Forum=)

It might be the late Episode 1 Obi-Wan figure that had the soft goods reissued again or something along those lines. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=saga2006&Number=1513320&Forum=)

Because Hasbro missed the chance to sell it. Nowadays big vehicles just dont sell well at retail, the majority of collectors just wait till vehicles go on clearance which really isn't good because it tells Hasbro that people aren't interested so Hasbro stick to stuff that will sell.
 (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=saga2006&Number=1513317&Forum=)



How can you guys say he's better? He posts the same old nonsense in every thread. He is becoming less coherent every day.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: MetalJedi on November 18, 2005, 02:22 AM
And speaking of his "holyness" I think its funny that he's registered here since 2003 but yet to make a single post. And yet he doesn't know how to spell in his signature. He must of been in a hurry to register his name so no one else would use it.  ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2005, 02:54 AM
Well he's god, he should've just been able to delete the account that took his name then.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 20, 2005, 01:01 PM
Anyone care to PM me the Bertha pic if they still have it? I never saw it, and I could use a laugh.

So you make fun of people because of the way they look. Hmm kind of shallow isn't it!! Let me guess, you're 6'5, blond, tan, ripped, and have a winning smile, right, the perfect guy!! Let's see...post a pic of yourself!!

You know it's sad to think that a way a person looks can, and will, get them ridiculed by people like Diddly here!! For whatever way people have advanced, folks like Travis here show we haven't!! The elitists that look down on those who are different!!

Let me guess Travis, you and your buddies make fun of gays, lesbians, blacks, jews, mexicans, mentally handicapped, any other group that aren't like you and your kind, but I'm sure you use words other than what I did!! Come on, why not show everyone what you're really like!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 20, 2005, 01:31 PM
Well then, why would you get a laugh out of my supposed pic then?? What would be the reasoning??

Are you talking about coming over to the scum and starting yet another account??? How is that the same as this??? Totally different, and not even a good use of the term pottle calling the kettle black!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2005, 01:48 PM
You know....I think that was a pretty mean comment too.  Although I've had more than a few laughs at the expense of Gregg's photoshopped mug, I know that Lady Jaye is extremely sensitive about her identity getting "out there".  I've never understood why....but that's why I never reposted her picture anywhere and why I only call her by her name over here....where it seems like everyone is on a first name basis.

But yeah...I can understand why she wouldn't want to when someone says they want her picture "for a laugh". 


Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Diddly on November 20, 2005, 01:51 PM
I'm taking this to PM's to prevent off topicness.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 20, 2005, 01:54 PM
Why?? You were going to get a laugh out of my supposed picture out in the open, let's continue here!!

And thanks JoshEEE, I knew you'd understand!!! Why post a pic of yourself if there are people like Travis here ready to make fun of others for not meeting the standards of beauty that the media has set!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: BillCable on November 20, 2005, 02:05 PM
I know that Lady Jaye is extremely sensitive about her identity getting "out there".  I've never understood why....

I've never understood why people are like that, either.  Unless you're disfigured or grotesque, or extremely overweight, why would anybody be afraid to share their photo?  Nobody here is ideal.  It's not like anybody outside these forums will ever see them.  I've posted my photo dozens of times, and outside the community nobody would even recognize me.  Hell, 95% of the people in the community probably wouldn't recognize me.  

My point - it's really no big deal.  When people make a big deal out of it, I usually conclude that they want the attention more than anything else.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 20, 2005, 02:07 PM
Wait I'm insulting you?? No, I called you an elitist who makes fun of others becuase of their differences!! You're the one that was making fun.

Funny, who said it was funny?? If it was funny, how would it be funny, becuase of the way I look. You just wanted to make fun of me, plain and simple!!

Whatever the reasons I have Bill, it's just how I feel. And they're supported by insensitive people like Diddly!! The kind of people that make fun of others because of the way they look, and thus lower the self esteem of their victim even more!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 20, 2005, 02:11 PM
And you wouldn't make fun of me because of my looks, then why do you title the link the way you did!! It was originally titled Andy Milonkis raps, not what you called it!!

Fat Kid Rap (http://media.putfile.com/Andy-Milonakis--Rapping)

Warning: Contains explicive language
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: BillCable on November 20, 2005, 02:14 PM
But why would you care if people you don't respect make fun of you? I just don't understand the logic.  It'd seem the current situation, where people are passing around the photo behind your back, would be significantly more aggrivate to you than if you just posted it and were done with it.  Just my take.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 20, 2005, 02:16 PM
Cause it hurts!! No matter if you can't stand a person, them making fun of you will in time get to you!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ben on November 20, 2005, 02:23 PM
In before the lock.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 20, 2005, 02:41 PM
Hmmm interesting, but the actual site titles it Andy Milonakis raps!! Here's the actual ur l address

http://media.putfile.com/Andy-Milonakis--Rapping

nope, nothing about fat kid rapping!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris on November 20, 2005, 02:43 PM
I can't do stupid today. Make it stop.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: DSJ™ on November 20, 2005, 03:13 PM
(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Enough.jpg)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 20, 2005, 03:40 PM
I'm guessing Lady Jaye doesn't look like Lady Jaye....  :-[
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 20, 2005, 03:50 PM
Settle down, LJ.  If Travis wants to take this to PM's, perhaps that's the smarter way to go.  So don't tell him that you're going to hash your fight out here publicly.  Obviously that's bad judgement, and as a former moderator I would think you should know that.

As for your picture and identity being a big deal, YOU are the one who makes it a big deal.  This whole situation is virtually identical to GNT's/Greg(g)'s.  The problem was two-fold:  1)  He was lying badly about his age and 2) Once his identity and picture were uncovered, he went completely ape**** calling everyone liars and saying it wasn't him, etc, etc, etc.  Same exact thing here.

I'll tell you the same thing I told him back then.  If you just settle down and say "yeah, that's me", then the whole thing would likely just go away after a week or so, since it's really not that big a deal.  But when you go so agro over the whole thing, it becomes a big deal.

Also, have you seen Diddly's picture?  It's around here somewhere too, so you're more than welcome to mock him right back, if you'd like.

- M
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2005, 05:03 PM
Gotta agree with Matt.

I've met Matt, several JDers and RSers in person over the years.  It's great to put faces and real names to the folks I chat with online.  This isn't a fantasy world, it's real communication between real people.  Yes, you can hide behind the little GI JOE cartoon icon....but why? I'm a dork....but I don't try to hide that.  BTW...my new icon is actually a picture of me that was done for a Penny Arcade comic.   ;D

Hiding your identity just makes people curious.  Imagine if I told everyone here that I dressed up as in costumes at C3, and then tried my damndest to deny every picture people went out and dug up.    It's not that your picture is a big deal, or that finding out your name was.....it's the big production you make of all of it that made it so interesting.  Just like GNT.

You've created your own mystery by wanting to be such a big part of the community (thousands of posts over several years) but by still trying to hide everything that's REAL about you from those people you want to be so friendly with.

I've made a lot of friends, buddies, chums....(whatever you want to call them) online, and if any of them who haven't already seen my pics would like to see my ugly mug, they need only to ask.  All you folks are people I enjoy talking to.....and I see no reason to hide who I am from you guys.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 20, 2005, 06:19 PM
Here's a pic of Jaye for all to see:
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(http://www.missusa.com/images/side-pict_missusa.jpg)


I really don't know what she's afraid of...  :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ben on November 20, 2005, 07:13 PM
Hubba. (http://www.red-mosquito.de/phpBB2/images/smiles/brow.gif)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: jjks on November 20, 2005, 10:34 PM
I cybered with someone claiming to be Lady Jaye in the chatroom here a couple weeks ago. Wasn't half bad.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on November 20, 2005, 10:36 PM
I cybered with someone claiming to be Lady Jaye in the chatroom here a couple weeks ago. Wasn't half bad.

LMAO!

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on November 20, 2005, 10:44 PM
Sorry, I just realized I had somthing to add to the conversation, and the location of the edit button escapes me right now...

Lady Jaye, Travis has indeed posted a picture of his Kurt Angle looking self. Nowhere did he make such bold claims ast to being 6'5", blonde, ripped, and so forth. Those are your own assumptions, so your just as guilty as he in making bad remarks.

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2005, 10:45 PM
In the spirit of sharing, here's a picture of me:

(http://www.movieup.it/Autografi/pitt,%20brad.jpg)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 20, 2005, 10:53 PM
Dude, put your arm down.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jeff on November 20, 2005, 11:04 PM
I cybered with someone claiming to be Lady Jaye in the chatroom here a couple weeks ago. Wasn't half bad.

It was a night I'll never forget...  :-*
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2005, 11:43 PM
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Nobody here is ideal.

Speak for yourself Bill.  ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 21, 2005, 12:19 AM
I cybered with someone claiming to be Lady Jaye in the chatroom here a couple weeks ago. Wasn't half bad.

Glad it was good for you too



 :-*


P.S. Where are you going to get a goat?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 21, 2005, 12:59 AM
I'm so confused over whose picture is really whose picture . . .  and I know that no one would want to see a picture of a fat 40 year old man so . . . . .gladly I won't put you through it. Just imagine a 40 year old Chris Farley and you have me. Now I can say this, though I don't like my weight from a health standpoint, and I intend to start swimming again to reduce that, I am great with who I am and where I am in my life. I have THE BEST wife in the world who is my lover, best friend and companion, an awesome marriage that works, and two beautiful kids that are bright, healthy and growing up in a way that will enable them to be productive members of society. So, IF you really want to see a picture, I guess  I could scan one and send it to you in email. . . . or I share this visual.
I hurt my back pretty bad last Thursday at school/work running after my class in the field behind my school (I ran into a hole and jammed/jolted my low back; I have a detoriating disc at L5 and the S1.). So this weekend I have been literally flat on my back, and could only move by crawling until last night. I took several hot baths in our garden tub and on Saturday I could not get out. My 11 year old son got worried because I was in pain and he heard that, and asked my wife what he could do. "Nothing" she replied. "Your Dad is too heavy for me to help (true) so he'll have to crawl face forward out of the tub like a . . . .(hesitates and then she decides to call it as it is) beach whale. He'll look like the Orca at Sea World coming out of the water!" 
Man, all I could say was to put on my Rodney D. voice and say "No respect!" and laugh which hurt even more!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ben on November 21, 2005, 02:40 AM
I posted a pic of me with a holo Leia up my schnoz.

Methinks these people just take themselves a little too seriously.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 21, 2005, 03:45 AM
Hell, I've probably had more people laughing at my pix than just about anyone online, since I've had more than a few innebriated moments captured on film by some of our members here, where I'm doing rather idiotic things...  :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: name on November 21, 2005, 08:47 AM
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/gammyseestheworld/gammiehooter.jpg)

Which one's the pig again?

 ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on November 21, 2005, 02:26 PM
That is some quality photoshopping there. 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Deanpaul on November 21, 2005, 02:39 PM
That is some quality photoshopping there. 

It's good, but you can tell it's Photochop because the sweater isn't pink. And the hat is not blinking.

(http://www.congruentinc.com/imagestopost/pinkmatt.gif)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Nathan on November 21, 2005, 04:06 PM
Looks like I'm late to the party but I feel this had to be said....

You know it's sad to think that a way a person looks can, and will, get them ridiculed by people like Diddly here!! For whatever way people have advanced, folks like Travis here show we haven't!! The elitists that look down on those who are different!!

Let me guess Travis, you and your buddies make fun of gays, lesbians, blacks, jews, mexicans, mentally handicapped, any other group that aren't like you and your kind, but I'm sure you use words other than what I did!! Come on, why not show everyone what you're really like!!

Ouch. That's an huge jump in logic, and IMHO quite uncalled for.

[/peanut gallery]
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 21, 2005, 04:48 PM
See what I mean?!?  These guys are all totally cruel, every last one of 'em.  Buncha internet bullies, they are...  >:(

Ouch. That's a huge jump in logic, and IMHO quite uncalled for.

Most definitely, Nathan.  That's a pretty asinine statement by Lady Jaye there.  Seeing as how it's so ridiculously stupid though, we'll leave it up.  ;)  (unless Travis asks us to yank it)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2005, 05:05 PM
See what I mean?!?  These guys are all totally cruel, every last one of 'em.  Buncha internet bullies, they are...  >:(

 :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/Celebration3/wang.jpg)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 21, 2005, 07:05 PM
I just want to thank all of you for the wonderful laugh I just had at reading this thread.  I've had a stressful week and this really helped.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Diddly on November 21, 2005, 07:44 PM
Most definitely, Nathan.  That's a pretty asinine statement by Lady Jaye there.  Seeing as how it's so ridiculously stupid though, we'll leave it up.  ;)  (unless Travis asks us to yank it)

Nope, feel free to leave it up. I did, however, delete all of my posts just so I wouldn't have to be associated with Bertha's filth. I tried to end it calmly, but she refused. ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Tracy on November 21, 2005, 10:12 PM
  (unless Travis asks us to yank it)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/Celebration3/wang.jpg)

Matt --  I think you're going to have to yank it yourself :P

 ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2005, 11:53 PM
I never knew Matt was missing a finger on his right hand.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on November 23, 2005, 12:25 AM
So why is Lady Jaye  no longer a moderator at RS??  Anybody???
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: BillCable on November 23, 2005, 12:44 AM
I was curious if it was because she participated in that "My Friend's Website" porn thread without deleting the porn link.  That thread was active for at least 8 hours after it was posted... live link and all.

But that's just a theory.  I don't have any reliable info.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on November 23, 2005, 12:59 AM
I was curious if it was because she participated in that "My Friend's Website" porn thread without deleting the porn link.  That thread was active for at least 8 hours after it was posted... live link and all.

But that's just a theory.  I don't have any reliable info.

 :o

 :-*

Never heard of that.  Do tell, do tell....

Was this thread on RS???  Can't believe that if it is true...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 23, 2005, 01:28 AM
I was curious if it was because she participated in that "My Friend's Website" porn thread without deleting the porn link.  That thread was active for at least 8 hours after it was posted... live link and all.

But that's just a theory.  I don't have any reliable info.

I'm quite certain that was the final straw for her RS moderatorship.  She was fine with the porn link (which was also posted over here, but quickly deleted), and LJ even participated in the porn thread.  Then, a day or so later, someone else finally deleted it, and within a day of that, she was toast.  So I'm betting that played a big role.

Though it's possible her support a couple weeks earlier of many RS members scalping Star Wars stuff probably didn't help, and her saying she was probably going to start scalping a few things here and there herself probably helped even less...  ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 23, 2005, 01:52 AM
Sorry buckos, guess you'll never know!!! Ahh sometimes it's funny being the center of the universe!! LOL!! You'll just never know what truly happened behind the scenes!!! Hey JM, you can step down from the soap box!! Once you see one of my auctions, you can preach on about my evil ways!! But not until you do so!! I've been fighting the good fight just as long, perhaps even longer than you!!

Oh and as far as the link goes, when he first posted it, I didn't see any pics!! That must have been posted up after I checked it out!!! Besides, I wasn't a mod in Wuhers anymore, if you guys actually paid attention instead of gossiping like a bunch of hens, you'd notice that!!

Wow, it's funny how the scum plays an important role over here, and that you guys still go over there??? Why??  Just curious?? For a place most of you all dislike, you all know the happenings!!  ;D

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on November 23, 2005, 01:56 AM
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the sheer entertainment value that people like you have to offer.

John!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 23, 2005, 02:00 AM
Well, well, well!! John Hamm, nice seeing you too!!

Anyhow, I'm off to the city tomorrow, have a happy thanksgiving to you all!! :)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 23, 2005, 02:03 AM
As important as anything I read at GH or here...  I still visit all 3 since I've always visited all 3.  Conversation's universal and doesn't stop because of Philip disliking the staff here without cause.  Nobody likes Scum's policies, their "community" is a joke, but when funny things happen there they become comical conversation here, it's inevitable.  Not that your being de-modded is comical to me LJ, but it isn't a job I think you were cut out for...  I don't know WHO is cut out for that job over there other than maybe GNT, and that's because he's the "ideal" forumite over there...  He's like the Rebelscum Mascot.  

Hell if he "sold a thing here and there on Ebay just to fund his collecting habit" I'd think he would be named mascot openly since I do have to admit that Matt was pretty spot-on about the whole scalping thing...  I mean, it's not like that'd fly over here if it was public and I was really sorta disturbed when I read that over there too.  Yikes!  It totally debunked the whole "collect-to-collect" theory in my eyes and it was (as I said) just something comical to bring up...  Kind of like the hypocritical links in sigs BS that was being dumped on people there when the staff were violating the same rule.

The whole thing about the picture...  That's no huge deal, and I agree that it's got more made out of it because of the fact you want nothing to be known.  That's your right though so who cares really but it's what fuels the fire ultimately.  No harm no foul though I figure, it's not like it's any skin off your ass or anyone else's right?  So no big deal...

I think most people here probably think you were de-modded for something comical in and of itself though, nothing you really did, but just more of the same old same old asinine stuff that goes on over there behind the scenes...  It was porn, and not even quality stuff at that, but man for a site hard-up for mods I'd think they wouldn't be quick to act against LJ or any of their other mods.  That place is barely under control as it is, so that seems counteractive to me but what do I know right?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: BillCable on November 23, 2005, 02:30 AM
Yeah... there's a lot of talk here about the goings-on at the Scum.  Mostly it's stuff that should be discussed in the open over there but it's not permitted.  Since it's gotta be talked about somewhere, it's done here.  It's nice to have a place where we're free to discuss whatever we want.   ;D

I don't have any problem with the Scum.  Some of the policies are assanine, but it's Phil's to run like he wants.  I don't appreciate how complaints are deleted more readily that they're addressed, but I suppose in a forum of that size every complaint's a pain.   I love the Vintage community there.  Wuher's is amusing.  It doesn't hold a candle to Watto's, but it gets a lot of traffic.  Every place has its strengths and weaknesses.  And they're all connected.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 23, 2005, 10:06 AM
It's nice to have a place where we're free to discuss whatever we want.   ;D


I don't even know if that's entirely true, I feel like if I say anything critical of scum here, they'll still ban me.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: jjks on November 23, 2005, 10:33 AM
When do I get to cyber in the chat room again???!!!


!!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on November 23, 2005, 11:04 AM
When do I get to cyber in the chat room again???!!!


!!!

I read about that one!  Bwahahahaha

 :o ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Vator on November 23, 2005, 11:15 AM
Let me guess Travis, you and your buddies make fun of gays, lesbians, blacks, jews, mexicans, mentally handicapped, any other group that aren't like you and your kind, but I'm sure you use words other than what I did!!
If by that you mean the membership of Rebelscum Forums, yes.  :-*

However to be serious for a moment, as a friend of Travis, I take serious offense to your statement. It perfectly exemplifys why you were and are not Moderator material. I would appreciate it if you would leave me out of your slanderous shitfests in the future.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 24, 2005, 05:42 AM
Hey JM, you can step down from the soap box!! Once you see one of my auctions, you can preach on about my evil ways!! But not until you do so!! I've been fighting the good fight just as long, perhaps even longer than you!!

Um... what?

I was just referring to this thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1462960&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1) at RS, where you were rather supportive of all of the RS members' scalping habits, and even seemed to imply that you might possibly be partaking in a bit of scalping yourself in the future.  Here's a couple quotes of yours from that thread to refresh your memory (I couldn't find one of the other good ones that I was looking for though):

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I guess it is ok to sell on ebay if you're a college student supporting your colecting habits!!! Yay!! It's off to ebay I go!!!

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Yea I'm begining to soften up. I mean it that's all you do is hunt toys and sell em then [censored] on you. But if you pick up an extra or two, but don't wipe out the store, then keep some and trade some, and finally put some on ebay, then that's cool I guess!! You know a lil funds to support your hobby!!!

Or maybe I just took that stuff out of context, I dunno.  It's hard to tell when you're being serious, and when you're being sarcastic, when there's seventeen exclamation points after everything you say.  Either way, you and the rest of the RS staff/mods sure weren't saying much at all about Phillip's supposed "Collect to Collect" mantra over there, where anything remotely close to scalping is supposedly strictly frowned upon.  I just find it a little scary how much the "community" over there has changed over the last year or two...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: MetalJedi on November 24, 2005, 01:39 PM

Wow, it's funny how the scum plays an important role over here, and that you guys still go over there??? Why??  Just curious?? For a place most of you all dislike, you all know the happenings!!  ;D


I thinks it funny that you would come over here all the time to snoop and not post when you were a mod but when you get to be "center of the universe" you post like a crazed woman at a buy one get one off sale. Just to save face.

Why would you care so much about what people say over here anyway? It all comes down to you were scared that people knew who you were and freaked out because you have some sort of "role" to play out online. Get over yourself.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Diddly on November 24, 2005, 07:21 PM
Like I said in one of my deleted posts, LJ is just a big hypocrite.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 24, 2005, 10:33 PM
I've enjoyed reading this thread and seeing how LJ reacts. Bottom line though is that I'm over it, and its just not worth my time and energy. I know that JD is #1 with me.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 25, 2005, 10:38 AM
Well, the major down side to Lady_Jay's demotion means that GNT is once again the major/practically only moderating power over there. Not to knock the other moderators, but they are simply not used in all of the heavy traffic sections where they are needed. It's just making a tough situation tougher, and I can't even bring this topic up over there anymore because, every time I do, I get asked to be a Moderator. :-[
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Deanpaul on November 25, 2005, 10:42 AM
Is there a petition somewhere we could sign to get LJ reinstated as a mod as RS? I know we all would.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ghost of QG on November 26, 2005, 09:39 PM
Please NO!! She may be a cool person in real life ( I don't know her), but her persona on the RS boards seems really bitchy. No where near GNT's worthless a$$ ! And let's not get started on the Sandtroopers.com mods >:(  She comes across as having a superiority complex, but IMO mods on certain boards often come aross that way. As for her identity and picture, who cares? If she's not cool with it, then respect her wishes. I will admit though that I am curious to see what she looks like , but that's her decision.  If she's not cool with that, then I say Ok and move along. Like I said earlier, LJ comes across that way, but maybe she's quite the opposite off the net. Just my 2 cents on the matter.

and BTW Lady Jaye, pick either texas or Notre dame as your school! Real fans only have one! Bandwagon fans choose two ;D ;D j/k
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JayDouble on November 28, 2005, 04:14 PM
This is for Matt. 

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=604787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3&vc=1
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on November 28, 2005, 04:23 PM
This is for Matt. 

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=604787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3&vc=1


OK, another banned member from RS!

WHat happened ?!?!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on November 28, 2005, 05:11 PM
He was banned a while back.  All JD staff members not named Rob were banned.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 28, 2005, 06:09 PM
This is for Matt. 

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=604787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3&vc=1

Thanks for the head's up there Jay.  Yeah, that's pretty pathetic of Dustin there.  I probably helped more members out at RS than ANYONE when I was still over there, and what does he do to show his appreciation, lock my highly inactive feedback thread at +100, just because someone recently bumped it up.  I don't even trade over there anymore, but some folks occassionally drop a reply on that old thread if I started a trade with them here or at GH.  That guy's got some serious problems.  Why he's so hung up on me and JD, I'll never know...

Longhorn, I got banned over at RS for being a staff member here at JD, and for saying some (highly warranted) crap about Phillip and Dustin over here.  Apparently they greatly enjoy reading the RS threads here when they pop up.  Go figure.  ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: MetalJedi on November 28, 2005, 07:25 PM
This is for Matt. 

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=604787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3&vc=1

That is really pathetic. But typical.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 07:26 PM
That's easily the most pathetic thing I've seen over there.   ;D

I mean, Matt's got one of the biggest feedback lists, he was nothing but helpful over there (as he is over here and elsewhere), and Scum locked his feedback thread.  Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!  You have someone who's obviously a community asset, who works overtime to make the hobby better, and they locked the all positive feedback for him because they're bitter.  Hah!  Hell it's not like Matt can even post there or anything, but his feedback still represented A) posts for their site, and B) it looked to most as if there was someone really great/helpful lurking...  Now everyone knows Scum removed someone from the site that just went above and beyond to help everyone...  Scum cares just about THAT much about that community.  Nada...  Zilch.

Where's that picture of a baby crying?  It's never been more appropriate than now after Dustin's move there.  That's pathetic on levels he probably can't even fathom.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 28, 2005, 07:34 PM
LMFAO! Did you guys see this:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1530622&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post15317451530622



Another one bites the dust!

http://threads.rebelscum.com/printthread.php?Board=UBB9&main=1531846&type=post



Banned for saying the dog should eat chocolate! LMAO!  It's good they're not letting these bastards slip through the cracks. ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on November 28, 2005, 07:37 PM
I'm glad they banned him for that one.  Infact I suggested it in that thread.  There's no excuse for making an offhanded "tongue in cheek" comment that could kill someone's dog - especially without any use of smilies or ANY indication that it was a joke until he got called out on it.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on November 28, 2005, 07:40 PM
Damn, I would ban that ******* too. Feeding dogs chocolate aint funny. He was a dick anyway.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 07:50 PM
Yeah I'd have to say we probably would have handled it very similarly.  However had that happened here A) the thread wouldn't have gone so long without someone doing something about it in the first place and it spiraling out of control, and B) We'd have probably had a private talk with Dark Destiny...  Maybe not banning but he'd have certainly gotten the point which I don't believe he did over at Scum.  Probably didn't even get a PM actually since many people don't before they get banned there.

It's just that what he did was really out of line.  Especially with so many kids there who very well could have been stupid enough to have taken him up on his advice.  Hell there's some people there who I question their intelligence to the point that they very well may go try that just to see what the reaction is.  I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on November 28, 2005, 07:52 PM
Especially with so many kids there who very well could have been stupid enough to have taken him up on his advice.

Yeah, really. Your dog may be dying and instead of calling a vet you ******* post on a toy forum? DOUCHE.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 28, 2005, 07:54 PM
Especially with so many kids there who very well could have been stupid enough to have taken him up on his advice.

Yeah, really. Your dog may be dying and instead of calling a vet you ******* post on a toy forum? DOUCHE.


I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how Dark would have felt if the kid actually fed the dog chocolate and it died. That would have been ****ed up.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 28, 2005, 09:32 PM
It's those types of posts, general buffoonery and the moderating, or lack there of which made me leave.  I'm just glad to be a member over here.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Morgbug on November 28, 2005, 10:07 PM
This is for Matt. 

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=604787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3&vc=1

Didn't scalp enough I guess. :-\
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on November 28, 2005, 10:17 PM
That's so ridiculous. Did they dig it up and lock it or was it bumped?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: jokabofe on November 29, 2005, 12:46 AM
Banned for saying the dog should eat chocolate!

While I know that chocolate CAN kill dogs, my dog once ate an entire Easter basket filled with foil wrapped chocolate eggs, and lived to tell the tale. Of course, he was pooping rainbow foil and fake green grass for a few days, but he was fine otherwise. And there must have been 20 - 25 eggs in there.

And just for the record, I am in no way, shape, or form saying that his comment was funny, or that he didn't deserve to be banned for saying it. As a volunteer for an animal rescue group here in town, I think that anyone who harms animals in any way deserves to be locked up. And in this case, even suggesting that could have lead to harm if the owner of the dog didn't know any better.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 29, 2005, 01:24 AM
I'm glad they banned him for that one.  Infact I suggested it in that thread.  There's no excuse for making an offhanded "tongue in cheek" comment that could kill someone's dog - especially without any use of smilies or ANY indication that it was a joke until he got called out on it.


I agree. There are kids who read the forums there, and think how they would feel if they knew they accidentally killed their family pet because some a-hole thought it was funny? Dark Destiny had it coming...look at any of his posts: they are almost always negative. He did nothing positive for the forum there and I'm glad to see his trolling ass booted.  >:(
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on November 29, 2005, 02:27 AM
Quote
I mean, Matt's got one of the biggest feedback lists, he was nothing but helpful over there (as he is over here and elsewhere), and Scum locked his feedback thread.  Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!  You have someone who's obviously a community asset, who works overtime to make the hobby better, and they locked the all positive feedback for him because they're bitter.

Not to play devil's advocate again (I know how much you all hate Rebelscum) but....why is it so bad that they locked that feedback thread?  Matt's not a community asset to RS in their eyes, or they would have kept him around.

Don't get me wrong (notice I have a post in that very thread from a trade with Matt 2 months ago).  I like Matt as much as anyone.  But why do you care if a feedback thread at a site you don't even use gets locked?

If they locked MY feedback thread, I'd be pissed, because it's the main place I do my trading, but if they locked my thread on say....Galactic Hunter, I really wouldn't give a rip.  I don't go there anymore.  ;D


Oh and about the dogs and chocolate, my friend's dog ate an entire box of chocolates and didn't even get sick. I suppose there are dogs that can eat chocolate like there are people that can eat glass, but I'd never recommend either of those things to anyone.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 29, 2005, 02:45 AM
First, for Matt it's still an asset obviously since it could grow easily enough over there if he really wanted it to what with all the cross-site stuff...

Next though, for Scum it is an asset because it actually shows the real state of disarray over there to people who read between the lines, should they read Matt's thread.  A guy who did so much good isn't wanted there...  That's sad.  That's saying we don't care how good of a person you are to me, so from my POV it reflects poorly on them.

But more than anything it's just asinine to lock a thread that obviously was able to grow and didn't affect them.  Most people wouldn't even know who Matt was, so it's a childish move on Dustin's part.  Shows that he's open to "playing games" online between sites, and for all Scum's bitching and moaning about the JD staff it is a clear example that they despise us equally. :)  We just allow people to talk **** on their site openly which they don't allow...  Just as they don't allow you to mention another site or link to it...  but you're allowe dto talk all the **** you want on GalacticHunter openly in their forum as I recall seeing here just about a month ago or so.

It all boils down to a petty maneuver on their part that just makes you roll your eyes.  Be a man, be mature, leave the feedback alone because Matt did establish a good list, he did help a lot of people out, and respecting that should have been the way to go...  It didn't happen that way, and ultimately it's no skin off Matt's ass and he knows that, but that's the kind of thing that someone should be talking about but you know you'd be shut up quicker than you could blink and your words would disappear with the click of a mouse button if you did make mention of it. ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on November 29, 2005, 02:54 AM
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Matt did establish a good list, he did help a lot of people out, and respecting that should have been the way to go...  It didn't happen that way, and ultimately it's no skin off Matt's ass and he knows that, but that's the kind of thing that someone should be talking about but you know you'd be shut up quicker than you could blink and your words would disappear with the click of a mouse button if you did make mention of it.

Ok...that much I agree with.   I wasn't saying anything was WRONG with the feedback thread, I was just saying it's really not a big deal that it got locked is it?  I mean, I imagine you're right and it was locked out of some kind of spite, but it's also something that shouldn't matter when Matt has 10 times that feedback over here.

It seemed more silly that it was locked than offensive.  I mean, it was like.....kicking a horse one last time after it's been dead and buried for a year.  Shouldn't really hurt, even if you're the horse, right?   

I suppose Matt could take it as a badge of honor that they still care about him that much.  Personally, I think they should...he's one of the better traders ever to grace that site. ;D

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 29, 2005, 03:04 AM
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it's really not a big deal that it got locked is it?

Big deal in that is it going to "hurt" Matt?  No, not in the slightest...  "Silly" is the proper way to describe it there.

But a "Big deal" in that it is blatant immaturity on the part of Scum's staff that felt it necessary?  That it's somewhat offensive to do that without explanation or just cause, nor allow someone to say anything in favor of what a stand-up person Matt is publicly over there because they simply "say so"?

Well that's not a huge deal, but it's worth laying it out flat here where you CAN call the people involved over there what they are...  It's a real childish attitude, plain and simple.  It's not like we'd have canned a feedback thread for someone we banned here, and hell we also didn't ban any of Scum's staff despite their behavior (instead we let them voice their opinions over time so long as they stayed within the rules).

Really Matt's feedback thread incident is just one more thing to comment on here, roll your eyes, and (presumably) not get banned for commenting on it...  Though that didn't work for Matt since he got banned there for what he said here instead of actually violating rules, but that's a whole other story I guess. :)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on November 29, 2005, 03:14 AM
Not to play devil's advocate again (I know how much you all hate Rebelscum) but....why is it so bad that they locked that feedback thread?  Matt's not a community asset to RS in their eyes, or they would have kept him around.

Don't get me wrong (notice I have a post in that very thread from a trade with Matt 2 months ago).  I like Matt as much as anyone.  But why do you care if a feedback thread at a site you don't even use gets locked?

Like Jesse said, it shows how completely petty a few of those guys over there are, and how entirely hung up on this whole JD thing they are as well, even when nothing's going on between us.  Hell, Jeff just got banned over there a couple weeks ago for simply asking why their staff has a bunch of links in their signatures to various other sites - Star Wars and otherwise, while they're yelling at all of their members to remove any and all links in their sigs.  Reasonable question for sure.  Worthy of banning?  Of course not.  Their reason:  You JD guys do nothing but cause trouble.  Whatever that means.  Furthermore, they have NEVER locked any of their member's feedback threads there, even after they got banned.  So why the special treatment for me, huh?

As for Dustin locking my feedback link and adding a nice little "he's banned" insult to the end of it, if you can't figure out why that might be annoying, or even a hinderance to my future trading around the net, then I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you Josh.  I actually just started typing up a huge retort, but deleted the whole thing, 'cause I hate these stupid little "Devil's Advocate" bull**** discussions about a site and certain owners/staff members therefrom who are nothing but a cancer to the collecting community, and who don't deserve anything along the lines of what they have over there at RS, all of which was handed to them on a silver platter a few years ago.

Needless to say, despite my disgust for RS, it's trading and classifieds forums are obviously a good resource for filling holes in one's collection.  So on the rare occurrence that someone points me towards a thread over there with one of my few needs in it, it would be nice to be able to point them towards my feedback link there so they can see they're in good hands for a potential trade.  Now, it just looks like I'm some kind of problem member since Dustin babbled on in my thread about my banning.  He's still just pissed off about my "You're Phillip Wise's Rick McCallum" comment, and is apparently never going to get over that...

And I don't have 10x more feedback here at JD.  I've got a +100 at RS and a +182 here, IIRC.  But if you're dealing with an RS'er in a potential swap, he may not be terribly interested in what feedback I may or may not have at any other sites, so the RS link could come in handy (which it hasn't for some time, but that's beside the point).
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on November 29, 2005, 03:20 AM
"You're Phillip Wise's Rick McCallum"

LOL
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on November 29, 2005, 03:21 AM
Since you put it that way, yeah...I guess I can see why it might seem more like a blemish than a joke to you.  My comments were more of a "just laugh this off" nature than a defending the locking of it nature.  I hope you don't confuse one for the other.

I think locking that thread was a weird thing to do, especially since it's been pretty much dormant (and you obviously haven't posted in it) for years.  You can laugh it off, or be pissed about it. Or both.

Sorry if what I said came off as anything more than a "so what?" cause that's all it was meant to be.


Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on November 29, 2005, 05:57 PM
About the dog thing:

Really, who's worse...the guy that joked about giving a dog chocolate or the yutz who went to a SW forum for his pet's needs rather than a vet or even an animal-related website?  Honestly, that's just flat out stupid.  Maybe Dark Destiny's comment was off-color, but in my opinion the original poster deserved a lot more flak than that sarcastic remark.  And for those saying "what if the owner didn't know and actually gave him chocoloate"...are you kidding?  Anyone that doesn't know that dogs can't eat chocolate shouldn't own a ******* dog.

As far as his banning, I think that was a big harsh as well.  I like Dave, but I think he acted a bit hastily, assuming the comment was the sole reasoning behind the banning.  He should have at least been warned first. 

As far as Dustin:

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"You're Phillip Wise's Rick McCallum"

Solid...*******...gold.  :D

John
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 29, 2005, 06:23 PM
To be honest, I'm actually suprised that instead of locking Matt's feedback thread, Dustin just didn't delete it.  He's petty and childish enough to do something like that than just the banning comment and locking the thread.  I guess he's both lazy and a moron.

Sad really, a couple of years ago it was a great site and an awesome resource for the hobby.

Oh, and the Rick McCallum comment was awesome!  ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 29, 2005, 06:46 PM
About the dog thing:

Really, who's worse...the guy that joked about giving a dog chocolate or the yutz who went to a SW forum for his pet's needs rather than a vet or even an animal-related website?  Honestly, that's just flat out stupid.  Maybe Dark Destiny's comment was off-color, but in my opinion the original poster deserved a lot more flak than that sarcastic remark.  And for those saying "what if the owner didn't know and actually gave him chocoloate"...are you kidding?  Anyone that doesn't know that dogs can't eat chocolate shouldn't own a ******* dog.

As far as his banning, I think that was a big harsh as well.  I like Dave, but I think he acted a bit hastily, assuming the comment was the sole reasoning behind the banning.  He should have at least been warned first. 

As far as Dustin:

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"You're Phillip Wise's Rick McCallum"

Solid...*******...gold.  :D

John

I agree that people should know that chocolate is bad for dogs, but that doesn't mean people should be instructing others to feed them chocolate assuming they know. The forums are filled with many young kids, and since it would be their family dog and not their own, they may not know. It's just not worth the risk making a joke like that IMO.

As for his banning, DD has been warned before about saying this and other negative stuff. It was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I normally wouldn't want another member to be banned, but DD was always nasty, usually just for the sake of being mean and watching his post count go up in the process, rarely adding anything to a real conversation.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 29, 2005, 07:16 PM
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And for those saying "what if the owner didn't know and actually gave him chocoloate"...are you kidding?  Anyone that doesn't know that dogs can't eat chocolate shouldn't own a ******* dog.

Have ya been in Wuher's lately John?  ;D  j/k

Seriously though, I agree the kid seeking dog help was either lying and just wanted to make up something to talk about, or he was an idiot...  or both.

But I seriously, and I mean this in all honesty, think there's people there that are dumb enough to feed a dog chocolate based on a post they read there.  Either just to see what the effect is that caused all the hooplah, or because they're that stupid.  Never underestimate people's ability to underwhelm you at any turn.

Given the post in the first place, I think it was a distinct threat that he could've fed the dog chocolate.

Had DD done that here I think he'd likely have been warned/talked to privately and all points would have been driven home pretty hard, but at the same time I love animals...  My pets mean the world to me, and I didn't care for the comment said in jest or otherwise, but that's just my take on things.

His banning at Scum, IMO, is more out of pressure from the crowd than out of legitimate disgust at what the guy said...  I mean, I see people blatantly calling one another names over at that site almost every time I browse through it and nothing is ever done...  It seems to me that unless you either are trashing RS and its staff, calling RS on its BS, or if you have got the masses against you totally in a Simpson-esque mob/riot scenario, you really can't get banned at Scum for much of anything.  You have to really be on one of the staff's ****list or it just doesn't happen generally.  This time it seemed that so many people cried out in anger at once that finally someone stepped in just to make everyone happy.

At the same time mass mudslinging takes place in virtually every sector of the forums without even an edit or a thread lock...  Unless the thread was a duplicate of one that is on page 73 or some ****.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Dark Destiny on November 29, 2005, 08:27 PM
I decided to check out this forum after being banned. Little did I know that I would be the topic of discussion. I think this whole situation is insane. It was clearly a joke and I was banned not for the comment, but because of the reaction to it.

Anyone who was offended really needs to lighten up. I think it's a pretty damn well known fact that chocolate can kill a dog. I know the poster is a kid and I am also quite sure that he made the post just for ***** and the events discussed did not really occur. Even if they did, posting about it on a toy forum is completly inappropriate.

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As for his banning, DD has been warned before about saying this and other negative stuff. It was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I normally wouldn't want another member to be banned, but DD was always nasty,


What the hell are you talking about? I was never warned about doing anything. I'm a unique guy, and I like to display that on the forums. I say what's on my mind instead of conforming to the general generic opinion. It's so dry there and I just wanted to add some... pizzazz. I never meant to be nasty, if I came across that wat.


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usually just for the sake of being mean and watching his post count go up in the process, rarely adding anything to a real conversation


Post count? What the ****? You've got to be ******** me.


Anyway, just wanted to state my case...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on November 29, 2005, 08:37 PM
You know, I called you a dick in this thread and I may have been thinking of someone else entirely... I may be confusing you with another poster with "Dark" in their name. In fact, I thought as much right after I posted the remark, but never edited it. Wouldn't be the first time I stuck my foot square in my mouth....
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on November 29, 2005, 08:44 PM
Well, welcome aboard DarkDestiny :)

Actually as was mentioned I don't think you'd have garnered the response here you did there, however you would have gotten a warning so I'll just repeat that so it's known...  Consider the joke along the lines of making an off-color remark about the opposite sex or some such, and that's that.  You're at a new place, you're not going to pay for sins elsewhere over here so starting a-new is the best way to look at things now that you're here.

I think you'll find there's less of the kiddies starting topics like that over here to reply to in the first place. :)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 29, 2005, 09:35 PM
I decided to check out this forum after being banned. Little did I know that I would be the topic of discussion. I think this whole situation is insane. It was clearly a joke and I was banned not for the comment, but because of the reaction to it.

Anyone who was offended really needs to lighten up. I think it's a pretty damn well known fact that chocolate can kill a dog. I know the poster is a kid and I am also quite sure that he made the post just for ***** and the events discussed did not really occur. Even if they did, posting about it on a toy forum is completly inappropriate.

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As for his banning, DD has been warned before about saying this and other negative stuff. It was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I normally wouldn't want another member to be banned, but DD was always nasty,


What the hell are you talking about? I was never warned about doing anything. I'm a unique guy, and I like to display that on the forums. I say what's on my mind instead of conforming to the general generic opinion. It's so dry there and I just wanted to add some... pizzazz. I never meant to be nasty, if I came across that wat.


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usually just for the sake of being mean and watching his post count go up in the process, rarely adding anything to a real conversation


Post count? What the ****? You've got to be ******** me.


Anyway, just wanted to state my case...

Maybe you didn't seem to come across this way, but the majority of your posts are/were negative. There is a difference between conforming to the general opinion and being a jerk. Maybe you didn't mean them to sound like that, and if thats so I think its a misunderstanding.

I thought that you were warned before for saying stuff like this, and I know you've had some of your responses edited down in the past. If I'm mistaken I'm sorry.

As for the post count thing, I retract my statement. It just seemed at the time most of your posts were just to say something negative and not to add to the discussion.

Now that I mull over the topic more, I don't think you needed to be banned; maybe suspended. I agree with you that you were banned due to the public reaction to your comment, but they wouldn't have banned you just over the comment unless you had problems in the past.

Either way, whats done is done. Hopefully you will enjoy it here, and I hope we can get along here.  8)

*Edited for spelling*
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ryan on November 29, 2005, 10:06 PM
You know, I called you a dick in this thread and I may have been thinking of someone else entirely... I may be confusing you with another poster with "Dark" in their name. In fact, I thought as much right after I posted the remark, but never edited it. Wouldn't be the first time I stuck my foot square in my mouth....

Dark Kanos perhaps? I couldn't stand that kid.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: BillCable on November 30, 2005, 12:27 AM
Post count? What the ****? You've got to be ******** me.

Make sure you go into your profile and turn off the swear filter.  Makes for much more entertaining reading.   ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on November 30, 2005, 10:34 AM
Welcome aboard.  If you're going to crack jokes like the one in question - make sure to tack on a smilie or some hint that it was a joke.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Angry Ewok on November 30, 2005, 06:22 PM
Welcome to JediDefender. Heh.

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Dark Destiny on November 30, 2005, 11:26 PM
Thanks folks. Glad I could clear things up.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 2, 2005, 01:20 PM
DarkDestiny, don't feel bad, I got banned from RS, too.  It's great.... thpppp
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on December 2, 2005, 01:50 PM
I got banned for flaming. :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 2, 2005, 02:46 PM
Skyhoucker, what did YOU get banned for?  Was it for that whole mess in the classifieds with the scalper debate?

Man...that whole thing sucked.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 2, 2005, 07:21 PM
DarkDestiny, don't feel bad, I got banned from RS, too.  It's great.... thpppp

No kidding?  I didn't see the scalper stuff Josh just referred to, but I was wondering if it was it for the masturbation comments? 

John
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 2, 2005, 09:30 PM
I missed a scalper debate? :(
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on December 2, 2005, 09:50 PM
THATS IT. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1533124&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1)

33844/Joe Michaels (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1533947&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1533947)

Hey, um, can Joe come back please? (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1537009&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1537009)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 2, 2005, 09:53 PM
Ugh.  I honestly don't know what gets on my nerves more...the mods at RS or the incessant bitching and moaning about scalping.  So the guy tried to sell something available at retail for more than cost?  Big ******* deal...ignore him and move on. 

John
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 2, 2005, 10:28 PM
DarkDestiny, don't feel bad, I got banned from RS, too.  It's great.... thpppp

No kidding?  I didn't see the scalper stuff Josh just referred to, but I was wondering if it was it for the masturbation comments? 

John

No, it had nothing to do with the masturbation comments.  It was because there were a bunch of us on last night and we were getting annoyed w/ a new member's moronic/retarded posts.  He asked a simple question, and I answered with, "What kind of retarded question is that"?.  Dave Myatt suspended be for being a jerk and "threatening people".  I was being a jerk, as that's what I do best, but I didn't threaten anyone.  That's just pathetic. 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on December 2, 2005, 11:30 PM
Ugh.  I honestly don't know what gets on my nerves more...the mods at RS or the incessant bitching and moaning about scalping.  So the guy tried to sell something available at retail for more than cost?  Big ******* deal...ignore him and move on. 

John


Seriously. Look at their ****en sponsers! It's a double standard!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: BillCable on December 3, 2005, 12:07 AM
Ugh.  I honestly don't know what gets on my nerves more...the mods at RS or the incessant bitching and moaning about scalping. 

John


What gets on my nerves the most is people who can't figure out how to post a link that isn't 4 pages wide.   :P  That first page was all wonky because the guy coulnd't figure out that you can truncate everything after the topic and post data in RS links.  Or AT LEAST click on the little URL button they provide for you and paste the ridiculously long URL into the first field, and a word or two into the other.

Pisses me off every time...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 3, 2005, 04:54 AM
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So the guy tried to sell something available at retail for more than cost?  Big ******* deal...ignore him and move on. 

You know....I hate scalping as much as the next guy, but I almost wish I wouldn't have said anything in that guy's thread. I only replied to him because he was calling some other long timers all sorts of names after they pointed out he was scalping (In a now deleted topic of his) but....it really snowballed into a big flame war and ended up with him freaking out and getting banned.   I don't like scalping, but I feel bad that I had any part in that drama looking back on it.



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What gets on my nerves the most is people who can't figure out how to post a link that isn't 4 pages wide.

A-freakin men.  I HATE that. It happens on every board I go to, except this one oddly enough.  Apparently the mods here watch that.  I know I used to at RS, but I really hate the side to side scrolling.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: AndyG on December 3, 2005, 07:41 AM
What gets on my nerves the most is people who can't figure out how to post a link that isn't 4 pages wide.   :P  That first page was all wonky because the guy coulnd't figure out that you can truncate everything after the topic and post data in RS links.  Or AT LEAST click on the little URL button they provide for you and paste the ridiculously long URL into the first field, and a word or two into the other.

Pisses me off every time...

Especially the feedback thread url in the signature  >:( why they just can't freakin rename it My Feedback Thread - I don't know  ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Xander on December 3, 2005, 08:44 AM
The drama over there is usually good for a laugh - its kind of the Buster Keaton meets the Keystone Cops of the collecting community (or maybe its Stir Crazy). But this little scalper episode really brought the flamers out of the woodwork. That back and forth was more painful than humorous. Sheesh.  It was like, Level I flaming.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 3, 2005, 11:55 AM
Well...what was disturbing to me about it is the amount of 10 year old retards we had arguing that scalping is totally ok.

I backed off my whole "Joe, you're scalping thing" after he calmly explained he would sell them for cost + actual shipping if people wanted him to.  But then we had these moronic little kids come in and say

U suc, U wanna be a mod so ur kissing up to them! Joe Rules!

And it's like....have I stepped into the twilight zone?  Are we actually defending scalping at Rebelscum now?  For me it had nothing to do with the guy that was scalping anymore, it was about the principle of the whole thing.   Is collect to collect just going to fly out the window?


I've always thought that people helping each other out was a big reason for these communities to exist in the first place.  Just yesterday I bought some busts over there from someone who bought a case....and I've been trading with people there (Or there that have moved here) for years.   I'll never go back to Ebay, and I'll never take any figure I have to get rid of to Ebay.

But if we start supporting people using Star Wars collecting communities as a way to make a profit....man....what's the point of them?

I just don't want to see that happen.
Soapbox off. 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 3, 2005, 12:53 PM
Josh, you and I are in the same boat. I'm kind of glad I missed that thread because I can really come down hard on the scalpers, but what surprises me most is that noone from the staff ever steps in to give policy. If the collect to collect motto is no longer apt, then it should be disregarded. However, if it's a rule, there is absolutely no excuse to let those scalping threads go beyond a staff member stepping in and saying, "if you scalp, it's none of our business, but don't come here and brag about it or try to defend it. Scalping or support of scalping has no place on the forum."

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris M on December 3, 2005, 04:26 PM
I just contacted Joe Michael (33884 at RS) about some stuff he had bought from me.  He said the check was sending the check out a week ago, but just "picked it up today."  Whatever the **** that means.  He said he was waiting for me to contact him.  What???  I contacted him when we had agreed to a sale price on my stuff.

He said in his email the check was headed out to me today.  His typing, or grammar maybe, is absolutley terrible.  Does anybody have any other background info on him?

I may give him a few days and then if the check doesn't show, I'll tell him to **** off and I'll sell my stuff elsewhere.

Anyhow, sorry to bother the board with my rambling this Saturday afternoon.
Title: Rebelscum = Downhill
Post by: Killer185 on December 3, 2005, 07:10 PM
So who else here thinks Rebelscum has gone hill over the year? 

God its so boring there now...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum = Downhill
Post by: Ook on December 3, 2005, 07:12 PM
How do I report a post? ???

Oh boy, leave it to me to miss the part where it says Report to moderator.
Title: Re: Rebelscum = Downhill
Post by: Killer185 on December 3, 2005, 07:14 PM
How do I report a post? ???
What'd I do?! Isn't this sort of thing open for discussion?!  ???
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Killer185 on December 3, 2005, 07:26 PM
The drama over there is usually good for a laugh - its kind of the Buster Keaton meets the Keystone Cops of the collecting community (or maybe its Stir Crazy). But this little scalper episode really brought the flamers out of the woodwork. That back and forth was more painful than humorous. Sheesh.  It was like, Level I flaming.
Totally man... The drama there is horrible! "OH NO SPIES FROM ANOTHER STAR WARS MESSAGE BOARD IS TRYING TO SPAM US!"  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum = Downhill
Post by: Reid on December 3, 2005, 07:40 PM
In case your blind there was a topic about the very same thing right above this (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8598.195).  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum = Downhill
Post by: DSJ™ on December 3, 2005, 07:42 PM
So who else here thinks Rebelscum has gone hill over the year? 

God its so boring there now...  ::)

Man, for a person who has been posting at RS more than here you tell us that place boring now! Oy!  ::)

Since you found our "RS deletes accounts" thread, this thread really serves no purpose. This thread is now (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/padlock2.gif)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 3, 2005, 10:15 PM
It's a  2 or 3 year trend that you've woken up to.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on December 3, 2005, 10:17 PM
He should have taken the blue pill.

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Xander on December 4, 2005, 10:46 AM
Well...what was disturbing to me about it is the amount of 10 year old retards we had arguing that scalping is totally ok.


U suc, U wanna be a mod so ur kissing up to them! Joe Rules!


That's what I mean, those kinds of responses, they seem to be on the rise. Not your part of the discussion. I think it was you who had some words of wisdom early on when I signed up there: "Arguing on the internet is like running a race in the Special Olympics..."
That's not always a truism at other sites, but it fits there to a T.

It's a  2 or 3 year trend that you've woken up to.

3 years ago there were still plenty of decent people to have discussions with that rose about the chatter.  2 years ago even.  Its hard to look away whenever the latest installments of the saga are posted.

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 4, 2005, 12:03 PM
I wasn't saying it was caput 2 or 3 years ago, but that it was starting to erode 2 or 3 years ago.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 4, 2005, 10:17 PM
For those aware of the cretin..
it would seem greenday has reared his ugly mug again.

SHEESH.. what a train wreck at times.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Killer185 on December 5, 2005, 06:36 PM
For those aware of the cretin..
it would seem greenday has reared his ugly mug again.

SHEESH.. what a train wreck at times.
Yea.... I can't believe they let him back.  :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 5, 2005, 10:00 PM
For those aware of the cretin..
it would seem greenday has reared his ugly mug again.

SHEESH.. what a train wreck at times.
Yea.... I can't believe they let him back.  :P

Its not so much they let him back as much as they can't effectively ban him and stop him from making new usernames.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 5, 2005, 11:51 PM
Yeah to their credit (hah) they've got their hands full (or is that "fool"?  whatever).

To effectively keep him out they'd have to actually pay some attention to quality and stuff over there, and well, we all know about how well that'd go don't we? :)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 6, 2005, 06:26 PM
It's great to know this crapstain was allowed back:
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=13263&Number=1538724&Board=ROTS&what=showflat&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

He graced us for about six minutes with such amazing posts such as when he quoted himself for no reason (after a triple post) to say:

 clonerking33 wrote:
God!!! clonerking33 is a major jerk. Who is super sorry. I was bored. Master Skywalker!What are we to do their are too many of them!-unknown padwan

He also is the one who gave us the timeless quotes as saying "YAY!" and "Fook you MutherFooker!" for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

Why the hell he was let back is beyond me. They also let the guy who was scalping the Twin sets come back too.  ::)

I wish I had mod power so I could fix this crap and try to restore the Rebelscum I used to know.  :'(

UPDATE: Well I sent a PM to an administrator offering suggestions and some changes that need to be made. I sent a PM almost exactly like this one 2 months ago and never  got a response, just a read reciept. Guess what happened this time? That's right, read reciept and no response. I'm pissed because I put a lot of thought and effort into the PMs I sent. Each PM was pretty long, with around 10 or so paragraphs. I was very cordial and didn't say anything critical of him or Rebelscum at all, just some suggestions of things that need to be changed. What makes me even angrier is that I don't think the admin even read it because of its length; a minute later (it would have taken more than a minute to read) the admin was making a reply in a thread that was completely off topic than the one I sent him. I've been there for over 3 years and have, IMHO, been a good productive member there, so to just sort of ignore what I had to say is rude.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 6, 2005, 09:43 PM
Which admin was it? 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 6, 2005, 10:02 PM
Which admin was it? 

In his defense he could not have had any time to respond and could be getting back to me later...but given the fact that I never got a response from the other PMs I've sent in the past (even though I asked for a response of any kind just to know he read it) I'm not holding my breath. I'll hold off on naming names for a day or so, but if I don't get a response by then I'll say it. You can probably figure it out if you think about it hard enough...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris on December 6, 2005, 10:25 PM

I wish I had mod power so I could fix this crap and try to restore the Rebelscum I used to know.  :'(


Not to be rude or anything, but who cares really? They dug their own grave and now they sit in their own ****. The site is a complete and utter joke. You have an account here. You most likely have an account at a couple of the other respectable sites. Post here, or at those. :)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 6, 2005, 10:35 PM

I wish I had mod power so I could fix this crap and try to restore the Rebelscum I used to know.  :'(


Not to be rude or anything, but who cares really? They dug their own grave and now they sit in their own ****. The site is a complete and utter joke. You have an account here. You most likely have an account at a couple of the other respectable sites. Post here, or at those. :)

Its just a little sad that the place I used to love has changed so much. The site isn't completely devoid of qualities...there are still some good members there. I've been posting here a lot more lately, and will probably continue to do so. I understand why you don't like it, but it hasn't gotten that bad for me yet.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 6, 2005, 11:38 PM
Victor,

You can't imagine how much more gripe the people have who were there LONG before it was even Rebelscum, and I think that's where Chris is coming from...  I don't think (I could be wrong so I apologize if I am) you were a member of Collect Star Wars' "BHC" forums, but THAT is what Rebelscum basically narfed from Mike Sullenger...

You think YOU are disappointed in a decline, talk to Sullenger who built the Bounty Hunter Collective into a great collecting community...  It was big, friendly, had great attentive staff...  Then CSW merged with Scum and it went to ****, in a nutshell.

GalacticHunter's formed a new BHC and that's cool but it's never been the same for me, and the BHC's never been duplicated I think.  I'm happy here now, I'm happy with my comrades here, but Rebelscum has NEVER had a forum like the BHC...  Once they tanked that it's been all downhill and even when you started there it was already in the ******* to the "old school" guys that were there from the CSW days.  It's really hard to describe how quickly that place went to hell, seriously.

Like Chris said...  You have an account here and I really think you're a welcomed member over here.  So "who cares?" as he says?  Scum's a resource now, and nothing more.  There hasn't been a "community" at that site for years now, and there never will be anything more than an uncontrollable, uncared for meeting place for people to get together in my view.  We've been hopping in activity, we're happy as a clam with that, and we actually care about this place from the forums to the front page and back again.  To me, Scum's a place to consider doing some trading (though given how many scalpers and con-artists frequent it now without close supervision, I am wary of that as well), and as a vintage section read now and then...  Otherwise the inmates run the asylum and I personally don't want to interact with that too often.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 6, 2005, 11:59 PM
As usual Jesse James, thanks for the long message. I'd always enjoy a long, thought out message more than 2 short sentences 8)

While I registered in 2002, I lurked for 2 or 3 years. At the time, I didn't think I was knowledgeable enough to be able to discuss things with the experts there, so I lurked and tried to soak up as much information as I could. I was around when Scum started, and I remember the things you are talking about. I found out about Scum through Yakface, back when Yakface was the only site, if that gives you any idea about how long ago it was.

Its not just Scum itself, but the people in general. Flaming is considered a regular perfectly acceptable thing. I try to hold my tongue and help people when they need it and to try to give back to the community, and then I get flamed for no reason. Excuse the cuss word, but What the ****?!? I've said before that people need to stop flaming and regain the focus of why we are all there: to talk and share the love of Star Wars, but it falls on deaf ears.

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this ranting :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Killer185 on December 7, 2005, 12:00 AM
Like Chris said...  You have an account here and I really think you're a welcomed member over here.  So "who cares?" as he says?  Scum's a resource now, and nothing more.  There hasn't been a "community" at that site for years now, and there never will be anything more than an uncontrollable, uncared for meeting place for people to get together in my view.  We've been hopping in activity, we're happy as a clam with that, and we actually care about this place from the forums to the front page and back again.  To me, Scum's a place to consider doing some trading (though given how many scalpers and con-artists frequent it now without close supervision, I am wary of that as well), and as a vintage section read now and then...  Otherwise the inmates run the asylum and I personally don't want to interact with that too often.
Been there over a year and a half.  When I first got there, there used to be a good community sort of... But since those few months it has gone to ****.  I'm really disappointed in rebelscum... Guess I'll just have to get used to Jedi Defender! ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 7, 2005, 12:55 AM
I wish I could agree that it's just the community there and not RS itself, but it starts at the top.  Phil Wise does a **** job of running the place...it's his sandbox if you don't play by his rules he'll take his toys and go inside.  A couple of the admin there are really cool, but the mods that I've had encounters with are chodes.  I miss the old days of the BHC, and while the vintage section is the closest thing to a community we have it still doesn't touch the way it used to be.  Really the only reason I go to RS is for some occasional vintage knowledge, to use the classifieds, and sometimes I'll go cause a ruckus at Wuhers.  :P 

Personally I'd love to see the vintage crowd migrate to another site (either here or GH, I really don't care) and to see some of the quality users of other sections find their way away from RS as well.  Nothing would please me more than to see Phil Wise's big fancy site become a ghost town.  :)  OK, there are other things, like seeing matkatnadam/misterkenobi devoured by rabid pirhanas, but I'll leave that fantasy for another day.

John
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 7, 2005, 01:15 AM
I'm kinda new here, and I know who MisterKenobi is from my days at RS, but why does everyone around here dislike him so badly?  Just curious... don't think for a second that I intend to stand up for the guy...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2005, 01:20 AM
I just got basically done saying something very similar in our customizing area where there's some issue between the two customizing communities...  

In the grand scheme of forums, a "community" only forms with leadership of some level...  Good, quality, caring, effort, hard work, thoughtfulness, and people who feel their community means as much to them as it does to all the forum members.  If the leaders of sites don't give a ****, their forums will greatly reflect that...  I'm quoting someone, but I forget who, when I say that, "Scum's a resource, not a community".  I think maybe Matt said that...  But the point stands.

Chris cares about this forum, and those below him do too I can attest to that.  From the forum to the front page, there's a caring about what's going on from the top of the food chain to the bottom where I most likely am at.  ;)  This isn't a business for us, it's fun and fulfilling, so while we want our community run as we see fit, we also want it to be a good place for our members to feel they can come and form tight friendships, close contacts, and feel as rewarded in this hobby as we want to feel.

By the way, nice use of "Chode".  An oldy but a goody.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2005, 01:20 AM
Well it started with the $50.00 Target Lava Vaders and just snow-balled every single time he posted for several months.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2005, 02:05 AM
I'm kinda new here, and I know who MisterKenobi is from my days at RS, but why does everyone around here dislike him so badly?  Just curious... don't think for a second that I intend to stand up for the guy...

Besides KitKatMan/MisterKenobi's over-inflated ego he put out for everyone to deal with from day 1, and his generally condescending and arrogant nature, I can certainly give plenty of reasons he is disliked simply for being himself.  How one survives happily like that always manages to baffle me but he's not the only guy in Star Wars who talks down to everyone and claims that life's just a bowl of cherries for himself...  I'm sure his friends just adore being around that kind of personality though.  ;)

But to help clear up why people don't like him here, it's generally the same reason people don't like him at Scum actually. :)  Just a quick look at posts I can quote, and I'm sure everyone will be quite aware of WHY this is the type of person who lasts about 2 seconds at sites that are properly run...  As a matter of fact, I think it might have been less than 2 minutes here when he signed up with a nic to try and attack one of our staff members.  We all had a great laugh at that as I recall.

Anyway, enjoy the quotes I just pulled at random for him...  Fun guy huh?

MisterKenobi's Greatest Hits:
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Yeah IG-88 is an icon - an icon for what a few SW nerds with no lives can turn a prop into.

Charming quote huh?  Really nice way to talk to other forum members by trolling them with insults.

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This Bib looks like he has Downs Syndrome or something.
Where do you even start with a quote like that?  Not only is it insulting to people but it's something you teach children to know better than to joke about publicly...  I'm sure anyone with a special needs person in their lives really appreciates that kind of comment, I know my brother would have probably snapped his neck if he heard him say that in person considering my neice has Downs.

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A-p-o-l-o-g-y.

Could someone be more condescending than to spell out words as a reply to someone mispelling something?  

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People who hate Jar Jar = entitled to their own (wrong) opinions.
People who hate TPM because of Jar Jar = idiots.
Again, at what point is any forum accepting blatant random insults and mudslinging as proper behavior?  Hell's bells, even kindergarten classes have more tact.

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Boo hoo.

Pretty much along the lines of the spelling post...  Someone's mommy didn't teach them that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all...  I guess when you're behind a PC screen you're as arrogant as you want to be though.  Kind of like how people behave in cars with their "rage".

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Lamest thing ever in the history of the Earth = counting down posts.

Not quite...  Commenting on people counting down posts is probably #1.  Just some clarification.

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Please, don't EVER compare this trash to a decent show like Chapelle Show again. Please. Feel free though to show why this show sucks in contrast.

Very nice...  Tell an entire thread of people voicing their opinions that they basically can't because "I say so", but then alert them to what they CAN do...  at least by his guidelines.  I thought GNT was god over there, not MisterKenobi? :)

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You don't have to disect my posts, Bobby.

In this post he's replying to someone trying to give him a chance to have a civil, intelligent debate stating his opinion, and MisterKenobi replies by first telling the person not to disect his posts (even though that's actually proper debate online), and also by mispronouncing the guy's name by calling him "Bobby".  For some reason I've noticed a common ******bag tactic of people who are angry and tied up in a budding online fight like to add a "Y" to someone's name.  It somehow implies some emphasis of their either dislike, or strong attraction towards their opponent.  A possible personal term of affection is my thoughts on the matter.

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And think about it... no one would be able to join to spam us, or scalp, or troll. Life would be so much better!

Seems a bit hypocritical doesn't it?  Considering how often he's been quoted with trolling, baiting, condescending, and flaming posts just now, how does he have a right to cry foul against people who are doing the same thing?  He's their king afterall.

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The mods don't need your help. If they did, I think they would ask you for it. But you do this in every single thread that is remotely copied.

And I'm all for showing someone an existing thread, but seriously do it in PM, or at least don't act so special when you show them. There are four buttons at the bottom of every post. One of them is the report button. Try it out.

And Skyhouker, I'm surprised to hear post-padding babble from a guy who has like 10 threads in the classifieds that you bump 2-3 times a day sometimes.
And low and behold one more quote and the guy's telling people not to mod anyone, yet in the same goddam thread he's telling people how to post and behave...  I mean, holy hell does he re-read this stuff or just hit reply all willynilly without ever thinking about what he just said?

Anyway, I think the point's made why people dislike him...  It's just so damned easy to do so.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2005, 02:23 AM
The saddest part is that a little digging could yield 20 times the number of nasty posts that Jesse just shared.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: jjks on December 7, 2005, 11:07 AM
Don't forget my Sig Line here, classic Matkatmandu!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2005, 12:09 PM
There was also the time that he called people homos, just using it as slang, but not realizing that some people might find that a tad offensive.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 7, 2005, 12:18 PM
I mean, holy hell does he re-read this stuff or just hit reply all willynilly without ever thinking about what he just said?

Anyway, I think the point's made why people dislike him...  It's just so damned easy to do so.

Honestly, I don't know this guy but I disagree with alot of his posts/think they're wrong. I'm sure I'm "on the bubble" here at JD because of things I've said in forums-my history here is not so good. In one aspect though I've really tried to help folks(that I don't personally know) out with their collections whenever possible as I would expect the same in return( something I really expected to get from this cool site). Unfortunately, I've become part of several "mini flame outs" here that provoked moderator assists.
I understand it's saying something in itself if I'm always involved but I just can't "lay down" for folks when they wish to insult me. I'm often taken the wrong way-probably because I think differently than most folks(not saying it's exactly better either).Seems like sometimes when folks have an extreme opposite point of view they like to hammer it home with an insult-I won't lay down for it -often matching them, hatefully in fact...but sadly the guy who throws the second punch often gets flagged. It will probably happen today for comments made in another forum :-X.

another point...the smilies....people really look into too much or not enough. Yeah I use them- I'm an honest, sadist/sarcasmer personality so I reflect it- so folks think it's evil or wrong. It is evil the way I use them but it's all in fun....

sometimes I just type it and leave it, get into trouble, then realize I can't be so brutally honest because different folks get their feelings hurt easier than mine-in that order




BOTTOM LINE: I'm not an intentional trouble-maker just being myself-sorry for whomever hated me for it. If I tried to unbemyself a little more I just may be more accepted a little more(find myself in less flameouts)















Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2005, 12:45 PM
This is thread that started it all for me:

 I'm a Dio-Noob. Any Advice? HELP!? (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB46&Number=1070480&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=1&Limit=50&Main=1066552&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=8261&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=9&oldertype=m&bodyprev=#Post1070480
)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ryan on December 7, 2005, 12:49 PM
Ahh! Huge Link!! :o
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2005, 01:08 PM
I'll fix it, hang on...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 7, 2005, 01:24 PM
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I'm a Dio-Noob. Any Advice? HELP!?


Man, that's one of the funniest threads I've seen in a long time.  I had no idea that had happened, but wow.....that was just....comical.

Speaking of comical, see this one (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1545984&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3) while you can...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 7, 2005, 01:24 PM
This is thread that started it all for me:

 I'm a Dio-Noob. Any Advice? HELP!? (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB46&Number=1070480&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=1&Limit=50&Main=1066552&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=8261&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=9&oldertype=m&bodyprev=#Post1070480
)

started WHAT for you? Whatsa Dio-Noob? Can't open the link, firewall blocked it
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 7, 2005, 01:25 PM
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I'm a Dio-Noob. Any Advice? HELP!?


Man, that's one of the funniest threads I've seen in a long time.  I had no idea that had happened, but wow.....that was just....comical.

Speaking of comical, see this one (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1545984&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3) while you can...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on December 7, 2005, 01:35 PM
Speaking of comical, see this one (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1545984&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3) while you can...


Oh my.



Is it her...?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 7, 2005, 01:37 PM
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The saddest part is that a little digging could yield 20 times the number of nasty posts that Jesse just shared.

You know, I'm not sure how long that list of Matt's posts took to create, but I'm really scared of what kind of "Greatest hits" someone searching my posts would find.  Those were all pretty bad, but I'm sure at some point I've probably said worse. ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 7, 2005, 01:50 PM
Man JoshEEE you're like a gossiping betty!! Running over here to give the JD'ers all the gossip and going's on at the scum!! LOL!!  8)

I totally knew you would do that!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 7, 2005, 02:20 PM
Unfortunately, I can't check out the things that MisterKenobi said over at rebelscum because I'm momentarily suspended.  Oh, and in my defense about MisterKenobi quoting me as having like 10 threads in the classifieds... I had 2 in the classifieds and 1 in the trading... and weeks ago I asked for them all to be deleted except one... 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ryan on December 7, 2005, 02:29 PM
You can delete the cookie and you can view it without being logged in.

Man JoshEEE you're like a gossiping betty!! Running over here to give the JD'ers all the gossip and going's on at the scum!! LOL!!  8)

I totally knew you would do that!!

Someone else would have if he didn't. You are the center of all Jd gossip remember. ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 7, 2005, 02:33 PM
Isn't that what this thread is for?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 7, 2005, 03:09 PM
Speaking of comical, see this one (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1545984&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=3) while you can...


Awww, you beat me to it, JOSHEEE

Hi, Lady Jaye!!!!  See, I told you that my "sources" were not hard to find..... ;D

We do need an updated pic, LJ.  You're not in high school anymore.  But we can still act like we are..... ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 7, 2005, 03:25 PM
Now, to post her pic on the "TOP 5 HOTTIES" thread.... ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 7, 2005, 05:48 PM
It's so obvious it's her by the response.

Yeah...that sort of gave it away. Like everyone else, I don't really see what the big deal is at all with this, and it just seems sort of weird. Is this 100% her then? I know some people here can confirm it...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2005, 05:52 PM
That's not 100% definitely her.

Just 99%
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on December 7, 2005, 06:16 PM
But our picture of GNT is very much 100% for sure!  8)

Now, to post her pic on the "TOP 5 HOTTIES" thread.... ;)

I believe that's already been done here, way back when she was first outted.  I think she threw a shitfit about it though, so we may have deleted it.  I don't recall anymore...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Killer185 on December 7, 2005, 06:29 PM
Man JoshEEE you're like a gossiping betty!! Running over here to give the JD'ers all the gossip and going's on at the scum!! LOL!!  8)

I totally knew you would do that!!
So you followed him?  ???
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 7, 2005, 07:00 PM
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So you followed him?

I was going to say the exact same thing, but decided I might be being too much of a smartass if I did.

Anyway...like Rob, I'd put my money on 99 to 1 odds that that picture is none other than our own "Lady Jaye".  Her denials don't mean much to me, and the funny thing is is that that picture has been around for years, and I've just always had that impression of her anyway.

If it's so wrong, the thing to do is not to deny it, but just post a real picture and be done with the whole charade. 

I think she secretly enjoys all of this, and that's why I don't feel too badly about commenting on it from time to time.  I can say this though......I don't plan to ever make fun of that picture, seeing as how I'm nearly positive it's her and I don't want to offend her by being mean on top of mean.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: BillCable on December 7, 2005, 07:22 PM
I'm leaning towards that being her as well.  A woman lying about her age claiming to be OLDER than she actually is... that's a switch.   ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 7, 2005, 08:39 PM
HMhMhMMM...EXACTLY! a SWITCH!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Nathan on December 7, 2005, 09:19 PM
This is thread that started it all for me:

 I'm a Dio-Noob. Any Advice? HELP!? (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB46&Number=1070480&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=1&Limit=50&Main=1066552&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=8261&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=9&oldertype=m&bodyprev=#Post1070480)

Wow, that thread really took a turn didn't it? That's one of the most bizarre threads I've had the dubious privilege of laying eyes on.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2005, 09:24 PM
This is thread that started it all for me:

 I'm a Dio-Noob. Any Advice? HELP!? (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB46&Number=1070480&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=1&Limit=50&Main=1066552&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=8261&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=9&oldertype=m&bodyprev=#Post1070480)

Wow, that thread really took a turn didn't it? That's one of the most bizarre threads I've had the dubious privilege of laying eyes on.

Yeah, here's one of my favorite parts:

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You're flaming my thread [censored]! Get outta here and stop talking to mods like you think you know what you're talking about after being a member for 2 weeks. You're a noob and a troller and you have NO idea what you are talking about. Nobody wants you here and all you do is cause trouble. Go do it I'm some one else's thread.

At the time, MatKatNAdam had been a member at Rebelscum for less than 4 months.  Meanwhile, after suggesting that Webster had no idea what he was talking about, MatKatNAdam (MisterKenobi) completely mis-identified Webster as a 2-week newbie.  I don't know who Webster was but I'm willing to bet that he'd been around for a lot longer than 2 weeks.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2005, 09:27 PM
The real question is whether or not we're going to lose classics like this in the great Rebelscum forum purge that is supposed to happen any time now.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 8, 2005, 12:00 AM
sadly the moderator failed in that forum...he almost seemed to allow all that kids(kenobi)' comments while Web was being tactfully dissecting that kid Kenobi. It's like he(the Mod) was doing what Kenobi told him to.

Well, I couldn't read anything where web broke the rules but Kenobi misfired often and.. WTF, Web gets shafted?

Is that Mod a parent of a spoiled child? Yes, son. Yes, son.
Sadly, I don't even know him and I see this.

"I'm going report..." WTF an unproffessional threat IN the forum??? not even in a PM? LOL- no wonder that site is so screwed on their backs- glad I was never a part

Additionally, I'm thankful all my hate mail PM's from Mods were just that..in PMs here at JD
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 8, 2005, 12:09 AM
Well you guys can believe what you want, tis not my concern!! Oh and Killer, I was just checking to see how fast JoshEEE would run over here to give JD'ers the dish!! ;D So you're over here permanently!! Meh, you'll enjoy it here, I have!! ;) JoshEEE, I'll see you at the scum!! :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Diddly on December 8, 2005, 12:15 AM
Oh, you aren't going to bitch and complain about them making fun of your pictures? ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 8, 2005, 12:18 AM
Since it's not my pic, no!! You still mad for me calling you out for being a mean lil kid!! :P Making fun of others because of the way they look!! But let's not get into that again!! If you do want to get into it, send me a PM, I'd be more than happy to chat!!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jediknight760071 on December 8, 2005, 12:41 AM
Can we, maybe, stop acting like kids and get over Rebelscum? I'm really tired of the overkill I'm seeing.  It's bad enough that our accounts are gone because the staff and members there aren't half as efficient as the staff over here, but it's worse that I can't go a single day without hearing something new about how bad Rebelscum is, whether it be in this section or the customizing section; whether it be from seasoned members here or new members coming from over there.

Listen, Rebelscum deteriorating may be the reason some of us came over here, but it isn't what makes this site great. Please, since we're all over here already, we know how outstanding this site is. Let's not get hung up on how bad another site has been. Just be yourself. Unless you're an *******.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 8, 2005, 12:47 AM
Making fun of others because of the way they look!!

Yep...sharp as a marble, this one is.

John!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 8, 2005, 12:54 AM
Words of wisdom Justin, words of wisdom!!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris on December 8, 2005, 01:30 AM
But RebelScum SUCKS!! YEAH!!111!!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2005, 01:33 AM
Making fun of Scum here is about the only place you can do it though and get it off your chest.  With our new people coming in periodically it's inevitable it flames up, plus many people still visit this, that, and the other site too...  It's gonna come up, and a lot of it gives me a good laugh for the day.

BTW I missed that thread and I doubt any of you did a copy did you?  I'd like to have read through the bafoonery.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 8, 2005, 01:41 AM
Making fun of Scum here is about the only place you can do it though and get it off your chest.  With our new people coming in periodically it's inevitable it flames up, plus many people still visit this, that, and the other site too...  It's gonna come up, and a lot of it gives me a good laugh for the day.

BTW I missed that thread and I doubt any of you did a copy did you?  I'd like to have read through the bafoonery.

Which thread are you referring to?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2005, 01:49 AM
The one everyone was talking about up to my post about...  I think Josh linked to it.  It pulled the PWise 2-step out the door I guess.  A classic tactic! :)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 8, 2005, 04:31 AM
The thread I linked in my earlier post is still there, as is the one Rob linked....

I'm not sure which one you're referring too, but it could be something else that got pulled that I'm not aware of, I guess.  ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: IndianaVader on December 8, 2005, 04:56 AM
I forgot how much I love Jedi Defender.  Can't quite leave RS though...  I will eventually though.  It's a shame too.

_Max
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Killer185 on December 8, 2005, 10:26 AM
I forgot how much I love Jedi Defender.  Can't quite leave RS though...  I will eventually though.  It's a shame too.

_Max
For the good of the collector's! ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 8, 2005, 01:27 PM
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I forgot how much I love Jedi Defender.  Can't quite leave RS though...  I will eventually though.  It's a shame too.

I've never seen the need for it to be a choice between the two.  Both sites have their benefits, so I visit both frequently.  There are lots of things I like better about each, and I've never seen a reason to pick one horse and stick with it exclusively.  ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on December 10, 2005, 02:59 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1553170&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1553170

More brilliance from MisterKenobi.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on December 10, 2005, 08:13 PM
Bah, why even comment on this ****.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: efranks on December 12, 2005, 09:44 PM
Awww, I go on vacation for a few days and miss all the bashing on my favorite RS forum rat, MisterKenobi.

All by himself he could be the poster child for all the things everyone dislikes about the RS forums these days.  He's a prime example of a guy that believes post count = experience and respect.

I'm surprised though that nobody brought up his Wuhrers thread about what he could do to make sure his relationship with his wife (fiance, girlfriend or whatever she is) keeps it's "spark."  People actually gave him some good advice.  It might have been Cable that told him to have a date night or something to that effect.

He frowned on that because it was too expensive to hire a sitter and buy movie tickets, blah, blah, blah.  I've been temped to toss that out when he's getting down on people, especially when he posts things like he did today.  In the ROTS threads he was pissed that Target was clearancing out their exclusive star cases because he bought 16 packs at the original $10 price.

That would have bought a couple "date nights."  Guess his wife/gf/fiance just isn't that important....

   E...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 12, 2005, 09:51 PM
Amen.  I can't say I've encountered a bigger ass on any Star Wars forum.  He takes it to the absolute extremity...I actually considered putting his posts on ignore because 99% of what he says just makes my skin crawl, and I have never even considered doing that with another user.  Arrogant, shallow, closed-minded, self-deitizing little jackass if you ask me.

John

Disclaimer:  I don't know if "deitizing" is an actual word, but if not it really should be.  :)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 12, 2005, 11:29 PM
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I can't say I've encountered a bigger ass on any Star Wars forum.

Oh, I think I've found his equal but, it's an equal...  Not more or less, just equal.

There's some close runner-ups though over there.  There's a certain guy that goes with the Stormtrooper "TK" prefix that is as big a ******bag over there at times as the aforementioned sopping wet one.  For my $.02 worth though, anyone who picks fights routinely like that though is just not fit for public forums in general.

I love how angry he gets at "Newbs" too, that's funny stuff.  They spam, they misspell, they start new threads, they troll, they flame...  Doesn't he do a lot of that?  Especially the latter two which are bannable offenses at any forum that actually takes pride in itself and its members.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 13, 2005, 11:09 AM
Do you guys want to see something funny? I'll show you anyway.  After a week long suspension over there (it's a long story, but Kenobi called me and 2 other people flamers, so I replied "and now you can add yourself to that list, junior"... and that's what got me suspended), Kenobi started harassing someone over there about starting a new thread, so I replied,

"A lot of people start "new version" threads, (including yourself), not just ex-mods. You're incredibly sarcastic in every single post you have. Some find it funny, but it is kind of getting old. I don't know how the people in charge here haven't reprimanded you. I got suspended for far tamer comments. You should consider yourself lucky. I'm not trying to start a fight, just wondering why you're so... whatever you're trying to be"

I did this right in the forum thread. 

His reply to me via PM was:

"Shutup. You wanna know why you were suspended? It's because I reported you. You wanna know why? Because other members on this board are my friends. They look up to me. And when they see you circumventing the language filter while flaming someone who has done nothing wrong, they tell me. And when my friends are upset with loser noobs like yourself, I get something done about it. You really need to learn who to be friends with. I've told you this before - be careful whose side you take.

Don't act like some little **** who comes in here and only after being banned acts like the good guy in fights that aren't your's. Me and LJ have matched wits since WAY before you ever though about joining RS. Mind your own business chump before you find yourself crying to VVD about RS again.

Look, I don't have any problems with you other than your assumed senority over senior members like myself, and your 'I'm the good guy' attitude. You leave me alone and I'll do the same.

I may seem a little brunt, but that's just me. Yeah, I am an *******, and yeah I'm a smartass. That's who I am."

Pretty great, right?

I emailed the conversation to the webmaster requesting that dickface be banned.  The webmaster emailed me and said something like:  "Whatever happens in PM isn't considered for banning/suspending anyone... just ignore him"

So, he can break all the rules in a PM and swear at me and call me a loser and what not, and it's not a bannable offense.  Looks like Kenobi's had his lips around Phil's "forum" quite a bit.

I don't post at 'scum anymore.  It's run by a bunch of slack-jawed yokels (sp?) and a 317 year old stiff.

Sorry, I just thought I'd share.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 13, 2005, 11:29 AM
Crazy stuff, Skyhoucker!  I guess I should get permission from him to post on RS, b/c I have never made friends with him!  8)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 13, 2005, 11:36 AM
Yeah, he's a hardcore bag of douche.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 13, 2005, 12:16 PM


I emailed the conversation to the webmaster requesting that dickface be banned.  The webmaster emailed me and said something like:  "Whatever happens in PM isn't considered for banning/suspending anyone... just ignore him"



Wow! Talk about selective rule enforcement. Many people have gotten banned based on their PM's and conversations about RS on other sites.

You know, I hate to suggest it, but I think RS should take the Ain't it Cool News route and go unmoderated. It would save the administration a lot of work and headache.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 13, 2005, 12:27 PM
What can one say about MisterKenobi that hasn't already been said....

He's making a strong push for the title of Biggest P.O.S. in Rebelscum history.

Which is incredible given the strong competition.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 13, 2005, 12:35 PM
Penis.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 13, 2005, 12:39 PM
What can one say about MisterKenobi that hasn't already been said....

He's making a strong push for the title of Biggest P.O.S. in Rebelscum history.

Which is incredible given the strong competition.

Is it that bad over there now?  I don't even look at the forums anymore.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 13, 2005, 07:41 PM
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Look, I don't have any problems with you other than your assumed senority over senior members like myself,

HAH!  Now that's classic hypocrisy...  This from a guy who has lipped off to people who've been there MANY years before he signed up, and he's lecturing YOU about respecting a "senior member" (a knob who has been there what, a year?) of the site.  Now to be that absolutely blind to reality you have to really just be clueless. :)

Man, what an overinflated cranium he has...  And Scum love him because he's their posting machine.  Just like GNT was (and still is to some extent), they love guys who post a ****load irregardless of how they treat others.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2005, 02:34 AM
Penis.

You're just jealous of his 163 I.Q.

He's classified as a genius.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 14, 2005, 02:58 AM
Riiiiiight...  I've got some great seaside property out in Arizona for sale on Ebay right now.  Check it and my many bridge auctions out!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 14, 2005, 03:19 PM
Riiiiiight...  I've got some great seaside property out in Arizona for sale on Ebay right now.  Check it and my many bridge auctions out!

Really???  Where?!?!?!

Here is the latest attempt at "What's wrong with RebelScum" thread (Click HERE (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1561246&Main=1560679#Post1561246))

Everyone's favorite (MisterKenobi) had some good points, IMO

(Prepares to duck from everyone throwing tomatoes)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: sfg on December 14, 2005, 03:59 PM
Insult of the day:

"Seriously...go drink the stuff under the kitchen sink."

:)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 14, 2005, 04:22 PM
That's actually less of an insult and more of a legitimate recommendation.  ;)

Of course I expect some jackhole there to pipe up with "What a dumb thing to say!  What if he doesn't know that stuff is dangerous!"

John
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 14, 2005, 05:41 PM
The liquids under the sink are dangerous?  That's where I keep my chocolate milk!   :D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris M on December 14, 2005, 07:48 PM
John, I was following you and MisterKenobi's discussion a bit.  Pretty funny crap you put in there I might say.

FWIW, I think I asked him what he did in the AF, I think he said something about being removed from training after he graduated BMT due to some medical condition and he gets some disability now.  He claims an AF vet in his profile...I'm just throwing that out there if anybody wants it.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 14, 2005, 08:54 PM
As an officer in the Air Force, I want to go on record that we don't claim him.   ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2005, 01:54 AM
Oh...  Ouch.

Edit:

By the way JohnH, I apologize for NOT coming in and digging up random tidbits of his past to post.  Missed it before the lock, but damn that would have been great because he set himself up for much ridicule.  Not that anything positive like a banning would have come of it...  Well, maybe mine since I work here.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris M on December 15, 2005, 06:34 AM
As an enlisted guy in the AF, I'd like to just kick his arrogant ass.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2005, 09:58 AM
I tell you guys, that Skyhoucker is right. Matt is a total jerk and is rude beyond belief, but does it only so much as to get you pissed enough to start takling **** to his ass, then he goes and runs and cries to the mods or admins. And currently DBB is siding with Matt a lot, including protecting lil Matt from John H so be careful anyone wanting to put him in his place! He finally put me on his ignore list, which is fine by me, he can stay away from me and I'll do the same!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 15, 2005, 10:08 AM
There is another "War on M-Kenobi" thread going on.  Check out the "Do You Miss Grunge Music" thread.

You know a guy has real serious issues when he worships Kurt Cobain.  I gave my 2 cents before that one gets locked.

DBB has no reason to close the original Cobain thread.  JOHN made some comments, but 95% of the content was interesting posts about Kurt Cobain.  Like L J said, DBB locked the thread, and sided with M-Kenobi. 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2005, 10:36 AM
Exactly, DBB is taking is mod duties and not doing the job in a fair and balanced manner!! John H and I have never, ever agreed on pretty much everything, but even I think that was just favoritsm at its worst.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: CHEWIE on December 15, 2005, 11:58 AM
Every once in a while I do get into a spat with someone, but try to reconcile when it does happen.  But I agree, MisterKenobi or Matnatkadamndamnhimandkaan or whatever the hell his name really comes across as a jackoff a lot of the time.  He might be a good person, but I've seen too many comments by him that just seemed out of line.  This is my favorite place by far, it's good that we are usually troll free.

 :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2005, 12:33 PM
Well, I think it was Bertha who said that it has everything to do with the volume of traffic they see... but I don't really agree with that. I don't think that if JD had X hundreds more people roaming around in here, we'd have the same problems as RS... because I think most of RS' problems lie with their administration.

Before GNT had me banned, I remember posting in RS' Feedback section was probably the easiest way to get suspended/banned... You're there trying to give creative criticism, because you care about your community, and then your thread is locked with either no mod comment at all, or a smartass remark - or a suspension for finding fault in the site.

Here at JediDefender, we encourage you guys to make use of the Suggestions board, because we actually give a damn... that's why you won't find Suggestion threads swiftly locked up by some pencil necked jackass... and best of all - you can post constructive criticism without the fear of getting suspended or banned.

I think the fact that their staff doesn't give a damn is the main thing that sets them apart from us. Not their traffic.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 15, 2005, 12:59 PM


Before GNT had me banned, I remember posting in RS' Feedback section was probably the easiest way to get suspended/banned... You're there trying to give creative criticism, because you care about your community, and then your thread is locked with either no mod comment at all, or a smartass remark - or a suspension for finding fault in the site.


I noticed that today.  Practicaly all of the threads in the "Feedback & Suggestions" forum are locked and closed.  I did leave  comment asking what was taking so long in setting up a seperate Photonovel forum. 

Hopefully I won't be banned for questioning the "High Almighty"  ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 15, 2005, 01:58 PM
Yeah, I'll probably get banned for sure over there once Kenobi reports me for my post in the "grunge" section...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 15, 2005, 02:33 PM
DBB has no reason to close the original Cobain thread.  JOHN made some comments, but 95% of the content was interesting posts about Kurt Cobain.  Like L J said, DBB locked the thread, and sided with M-Kenobi. 

Hold the phone partner...are you actually saying that *I* made some negative comments in the Cobain thread?  Please tell me you're not serious.

John
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 15, 2005, 02:46 PM
Hold the phone partner...are you actually saying that *I* made some negative comments in the Cobain thread?  Please tell me you're not serious.

John

Only comments that got a rise out of M-KENOBI!  ;D  And I'm learning why everyone dislikes this Kurt-Cobain-worshipping jackass.

Must we remind ourselves, that M-KENOBI has " other members on [RS] board are my friends. They look up to me"  and we must conform to his view of the SW world and other matters.  ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2005, 02:56 PM
Quote from: MisterKenobi
Note the title of this thread is "Who Misses Grunge Rock?" not "Who Doesn't Miss Grunge Rock".  If you don't like it, fine, but you have no right to belittle other people's views.

I love his request not to belittle others views. Something he does every single day himself!! Now that is a hypocrite if I ever saw one!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 15, 2005, 03:01 PM
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Well, I think it was Bertha who said that it has everything to do with the volume of traffic they see... but I don't really agree with that. I don't think that if JD had X hundreds more people roaming around in here, we'd have the same problems as RS... because I think most of RS' problems lie with their administration.

I've actually mentioned this before. I think a very large part of the reason this site is so cool and mellow is because it doesn't have a lot of readers. When a troublemaker comes in, he's easy to target, watch and eventually remove.

If this place suddenly became the juggernaut that Rebelscum is, you guys would need 4 or 5 more full time moderators just to keep the newbies contained.  I think Rebelscum needs at least that many more, and that's probably their biggest problem is that they've never had it.  Crazy trolls would never be allowed to survive as long as some of the ones over there have.   

I do agree with you about the feedback forum though.  Recently, I actually thought "Misterkenobis" idea about having noobs unable to post new threads was a great one. I visit some other forums that don't let you start new topics until you've been there for a little bit  and they are much easier to find info on.  It was quickly dismissed, maybe because Matt started it and he's not exactly a beacon of common sense over there.  I thought it was a good idea though.

 But yeah, it seems like (ironically) some of the most constructive feedback for Rebelscum happens over here.  Over there, good ideas, complaints or comments get locked, buried or completely removed.  If they're in the feedback section where they belong, they are usually just locked...which is better than Wuher's where they often get completely hidden.  The last really big suggestion I remember getting pushed through was the removal of the post count, and that was quite some time ago.  These days, I think they need more staff, a more watchful eye on the scalpers in the community, and a few more sections to help sort out the clutter.

That's one reason why JD is really cool.  I have a feeling if there was a problem over here, we'd be able to talk about it openly.  However, I have a feeling that instead, we'll end up talking about problems over there indefinitely, because this site is probably going to remain a cool hangout like it is now.

By the way....it would be really cool if there was just a big "Rebelscum talk" topic that could always house this sort of conversation.  I find that it's a never-ending topic, but it continues from thread to thread over here as each one is eventually locked.    ;D

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2005, 03:16 PM
Must we remind ourselves, that M-KENOBI has " other members on [RS] board are my friends. They look up to me"  and we must conform to his view of the SW world and other matters.  ::)

Yes, let us not forget his almighty self!! He is definately full of himself. He even PM'ed me that he would let me slide for telling off!! He wouldn't go to Jeremy, guess he has an admin in his pocket as well as a mod!! ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2005, 03:28 PM
I doubt Chris would go for having a Child Board specifically for RS gossip, although I've always wanted to sticky the one thread where Scott revealed Greg(g)'s identity... Classic.

 :P


I suppose I'm one of the few who has no experience with this M-Kenobi guy? I sound lucky.

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2005, 03:35 PM
By the way....it would be really cool if there was just a big "Rebelscum talk" topic that could always house this sort of conversation.  I find that it's a never-ending topic, but it continues from thread to thread over here as each one is eventually locked.    ;D

I've actually been thinking for some time now about merging all the old RS threads together into one huge master thread, and calling it "Rebelscum's Greatest Hits".  I still might, when I have some more time.  We'll see...

But good idea, Josh!  ;)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 15, 2005, 03:51 PM
Only moments before the little baby gets me banned for this one... http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1563451&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1563451

Well... mysteriously, the thread has disappeared...  ::)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2005, 03:54 PM
Houck, what thread was it??? Are you banned for good, or are you talking about last week's suspension??
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 15, 2005, 04:14 PM
Banned for good... The thread was about why Darth Big Boy is so in favor of MisterKenobi.  It got me banned for good... everything I said was factual, though... another thing that's pathetic is that Kenobi kept saying how Cobain was his hero... and then he turns around and says, "Heh that thread went away fast, huh?

Apparently being a fan of someone means that you worship or idolize them 

Making an opinion of how good a person's music was and why they inspired a GENERATION based on their personal dealings is just ignorant. Oh wait I guess that's name-calling"

The thread he's referring to is the one that suddenly disappeared... so I tried to get onto scum a minute ago and I'm banned.  Awesome, eh?

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ryan on December 15, 2005, 04:27 PM

The thread he's referring to is the one that suddenly disappeared... so I tried to get onto scum a minute ago and I'm banned.  Awesome, eh?


Join the club.

 :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 15, 2005, 04:34 PM

The thread he's referring to is the one that suddenly disappeared... so I tried to get onto scum a minute ago and I'm banned.  Awesome, eh?


Join the club.

 :P

What was your user name at scum?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Matt Carroll on December 15, 2005, 04:49 PM
Bunch'a trouble makers over here, I tell ya' - gettin' banned and what not.  ;) :P

Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 15, 2005, 04:50 PM

The thread he's referring to is the one that suddenly disappeared... so I tried to get onto scum a minute ago and I'm banned.  Awesome, eh?


Join the club.

 :P

Well, I guess I am still a noob on JD until I get banned at RS!!!

I'll wait until I finish my photonovel first!  :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ryan on December 15, 2005, 04:51 PM


What was your user name at scum?

Sith Lord Chaos. I had been a member there since about February/March '03, and I got banned back in March/April of this year along with a lot of the other guys around here. It wasn't just a suspension either, I tried logging in the other day just cause I was curious to see if I was banned, and sure enough I couldn't log in.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 15, 2005, 04:52 PM
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The thread he's referring to is the one that suddenly disappeared... so I tried to get onto scum a minute ago and I'm banned.  Awesome, eh?

You were probably banned for the "mods have their head up their asses" comment, and not so much for pointing out how Matt has been granted a lot of leeway over there.  It seemed to me like you threw that one in there just to get banned.  ;D

I knew that thread wouldn't last, but it would have been interesting if it did.   Man...the drama over the last couple of days has been exciting I guess (and I've missed most of it apparently).
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 15, 2005, 05:23 PM
Hmmm..after reading this I'm temped into going over there, signing up ,with alot of info and trashing the inept staff members and that uh..azzhole to no end until I get banned too!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 15, 2005, 05:39 PM
Hmmm..after reading this I'm temped into going over there, signing up ,with alot of info and trashing the inept staff members and that uh..azzhole to no end until I get banned too!

Go for it!  Challenge all the MODS by posting the same post in as many forums as you can!  Revolt! Rally the noobs!

Gotta love the COPY/PASTE function
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2005, 06:10 PM
While I like the amount of people there and the amount of traffic, but I'm getting tired of the scum myself. Especially the heavy handed rulings!! When a troll like Matt can get others banned but not himself, then there's something wrong. Especially if they have coniving people as mods!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2005, 06:14 PM
Matkatandshat should have been banned within his first month at that site between bragging about scalping to calling little Webster a homo to a plethora of other egregious offenses.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Chris on December 15, 2005, 06:17 PM
Hmmm..after reading this I'm temped into going over there, signing up ,with alot of info and trashing the inept staff members and that uh..azzhole to no end until I get banned too!

Go for it!  Challenge all the MODS by posting the same post in as many forums as you can!  Revolt! Rally the noobs!

Gotta love the COPY/PASTE function

Or don't, and be mature and stop posting there.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Killer185 on December 15, 2005, 06:36 PM
Hmmm..after reading this I'm temped into going over there, signing up ,with alot of info and trashing the inept staff members and that uh..azzhole to no end until I get banned too!

Go for it!  Challenge all the MODS by posting the same post in as many forums as you can!  Revolt! Rally the noobs!

Gotta love the COPY/PASTE function

Or don't, and be mature and stop posting there.
haha I love how how the to most problems are the easy ones...
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on December 15, 2005, 07:13 PM
Hmmm..after reading this I'm temped into going over there, signing up ,with alot of info and trashing the inept staff members and that uh..azzhole to no end until I get banned too!

Go for it!  Challenge all the MODS by posting the same post in as many forums as you can!  Revolt! Rally the noobs!

Gotta love the COPY/PASTE function

Or don't, and be mature and stop posting there.

I love you, Chris. :-*

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 15, 2005, 10:57 PM
If this place suddenly became the juggernaut that Rebelscum is, you guys would need 4 or 5 more full time moderators just to keep the newbies contained.  I think Rebelscum needs at least that many more

Hey, I'll put in my application.  (http://www.funwithmsn.com/msnsmileys/fun/devil.gif)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 15, 2005, 11:25 PM
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Well, I think it was Bertha who said that it has everything to do with the volume of traffic they see... but I don't really agree with that. I don't think that if JD had X hundreds more people roaming around in here, we'd have the same problems as RS... because I think most of RS' problems lie with their administration.

I've actually mentioned this before. I think a very large part of the reason this site is so cool and mellow is because it doesn't have a lot of readers. When a troublemaker comes in, he's easy to target, watch and eventually remove.

If this place suddenly became the juggernaut that Rebelscum is, you guys would need 4 or 5 more full time moderators just to keep the newbies contained.  I think Rebelscum needs at least that many more, and that's probably their biggest problem is that they've never had it.  Crazy trolls would never be allowed to survive as long as some of the ones over there have.   

I do agree with you about the feedback forum though.  Recently, I actually thought "Misterkenobis" idea about having noobs unable to post new threads was a great one. I visit some other forums that don't let you start new topics until you've been there for a little bit  and they are much easier to find info on.  It was quickly dismissed, maybe because Matt started it and he's not exactly a beacon of common sense over there.  I thought it was a good idea though.

 But yeah, it seems like (ironically) some of the most constructive feedback for Rebelscum happens over here.  Over there, good ideas, complaints or comments get locked, buried or completely removed.  If they're in the feedback section where they belong, they are usually just locked...which is better than Wuher's where they often get completely hidden.  The last really big suggestion I remember getting pushed through was the removal of the post count, and that was quite some time ago.  These days, I think they need more staff, a more watchful eye on the scalpers in the community, and a few more sections to help sort out the clutter.

That's one reason why JD is really cool.  I have a feeling if there was a problem over here, we'd be able to talk about it openly.  However, I have a feeling that instead, we'll end up talking about problems over there indefinitely, because this site is probably going to remain a cool hangout like it is now.

By the way....it would be really cool if there was just a big "Rebelscum talk" topic that could always house this sort of conversation.  I find that it's a never-ending topic, but it continues from thread to thread over here as each one is eventually locked.    ;D

I agree. Say there is 1 troll for every 100 people that sign up at a board. The traffic at Scum alone attracts more trolls than here.

Plus, we get rid of them very fast  8)

I definitely think they should hire some more mods. There just is too much threads and members for the staff to handle. I mean, LJ was mod in some of the mods high traffic sections, and now that she's gone there is this void that hasn't been filled.

 I was talking with another veteran member yesterday, and we noticed that most of the people that are there now have only been there for a year or two....look around; its rare to see someone pre 03 even. Luckily, most of the older members have just migrated here so I can still chat with you.

I agreed with Kenobi's thread on newbies needing to wait to start threads...it was getting crazy for a while. One member made 17 threads that needed to be locked....17. All were easily answered questions, and at least 2/3 were duplicate threads. I know not all new members are like this, but it seems to be an epidemic of new, usually young, users lately who right after they register go nuts and make 20 threads then in their ADD madness don't stop to listen to advice or spell correctly. I was annoyed that the thread was closed with a blunt "not going to happen anytime soon", and no reason as to why  :P

I agree, the #1 way to get banned is to make a thread in the feedback section. 9/10 out of ten, if the thread isn't deleted outright it is locked. Its getting very annoying...whats the point of the section if nothing is going to be discussed or thought about? I know I've personally PMed the admins many times in the last 6 months, and NONE of my PMs were responded (for the record, Dave Myatt and Curto did respond, so kudos to them). People are calling for change and I've notified the admins of the unrest, but apparently it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2005, 11:48 PM
I definitely think they should hire some more mods

Me too.  Infact I nomintaed MisterKenobi just yesterday.



Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 16, 2005, 12:08 AM
I think you guys would be surprised at A) just how little anyone there actually gives a ****, and B) just how much the staff here actually DOES give a ****.

I can safely say that yes a massive influx would be handled appropriately here...  Our staff are very vigilant about who's here, who's saying what...  And of course where they're saying it.  It's an underestimation to assume we couldn't handle ourselves with a larger population than we currently have.  Would we hire new?  Good chance we would just for our own ease, but I can tell you we would still run a better forum than Rebelscum, and I 100% firmly believe every word of that to be true.  It's not a matter of how many people, but a matter of how much you actually give a **** about what's going on at your site.

Case in point, it appears to me fraud and scalping are increasingly bigger problems there day after day...  No action = No Importance, not  their being "overwhelmed".  We've had our fair share of trolls, "newbs/noobs", douchebags, and instigators.  They're gone...  They're not tiptoed around, they're not sided with...  Some get a brief shot to improve and are gone, others are gone with their first foot-in-mouth asinine words.  There's people there to deal with it...  They just choose not to.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 16, 2005, 12:45 AM
I think you guys would be surprised at A) just how little anyone there actually gives a ****, and B) just how much the staff here actually DOES give a ****.

I can safely say that yes a massive influx would be handled appropriately here...  Our staff are very vigilant about who's here, who's saying what...  And of course where they're saying it.  It's an underestimation to assume we couldn't handle ourselves with a larger population than we currently have.  Would we hire new?  Good chance we would just for our own ease, but I can tell you we would still run a better forum than Rebelscum, and I 100% firmly believe every word of that to be true.  It's not a matter of how many people, but a matter of how much you actually give a **** about what's going on at your site.

Case in point, it appears to me fraud and scalping are increasingly bigger problems there day after day...  No action = No Importance, not  their being "overwhelmed".  We've had our fair share of trolls, "newbs/noobs", douchebags, and instigators.  They're gone...  They're not tiptoed around, they're not sided with...  Some get a brief shot to improve and are gone, others are gone with their first foot-in-mouth asinine words.  There's people there to deal with it...  They just choose not to.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely can tell a difference in the staff.

I mean, how long did Greenday last here?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 16, 2005, 01:14 AM
Not long...  With any account he forms.  He makes his presence known then a ban comes.  People like him do the same, and they are given their shot to be a part here and if they can't do so by our rules and standards they are gone...  We like for people to be given a chance but when they prove they can't be a harmonious part of the community they're banned, and rebanned as much as is necessary irregardless of how persistant they are.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: CHEWIE on December 16, 2005, 11:58 AM
Just for the fun of it, whoever has JJ as their Secret Santa should sent him some Rebel Fleet Troopers - Merry Christmas from Scum.   ;D

 :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 16, 2005, 07:50 PM
I'm not in the SS...

If I got that though I'd send the other person this:

I heard that you've been bad this year...
So listen, here's the scoop.
Instead of getting Coal this year...
You get snowman poop.

And I'd give thema baggie of mini-marshmallow's.

And the Fleet Trooper sucketh, and sucketh rightly.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on December 16, 2005, 08:32 PM
Ban #2 for me. I deserved it the first time, but now I've been kicked for not agreeing with every admin decision Myatt makes. What a grumpy old tool he is.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 16, 2005, 08:35 PM
Ban #2 for me. I deserved it the first time, but now I've been kicked for not agreeing with every admin decision Myatt makes. What a grumpy old tool he is.

Were you banned in a thread? Which thread?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on December 16, 2005, 08:37 PM
Ban #2 for me. I deserved it the first time, but now I've been kicked for not agreeing with every admin decision Myatt makes. What a grumpy old tool he is.

Were you banned in a thread? Which thread?

Sideshow Anakin Part II. But there's no evidence of it; Dave's a ***** and deleted my comments. Probably because they made sense.

(http://myo.homestead.com/files/RS/Krull_post.gif)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 16, 2005, 08:44 PM
Ban #2 for me. I deserved it the first time, but now I've been kicked for not agreeing with every admin decision Myatt makes. What a grumpy old tool he is.

Were you banned in a thread? Which thread?

Sideshow Anakin Part II. But there's no evidence of it; Dave's a ***** and deleted my comments. Probably because they made sense.

Theres WAAAYYYY too much deleting as opposed to locking going on lately. The funny thing is that when something like this happens everyone finds out anyway  :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Ook on December 16, 2005, 08:53 PM
It started with this (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1566229&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1).

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paulmkelly:

 
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Dave Myatt wrote:
    Sideshow_Chicky stated that the costume and robotic hand added to the price. Personally I still think this figure is far better than Hasbro's and is worth every penny. Call me nuts.


You're nuts.

Hey Dave, do you get brownie points or something if people post in threads you start? It seems kind of unneccesary to close those other threads, to me at least. I'm new here and used to less oppresive mods, so maybe everyone is used to this kind of thing.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 17, 2005, 01:22 AM
I like that you print screened your desktop for posterity Ook, that's f'n classic.

Sad state of affairs when you have to actually safeguard all information because Scum's going to inevitably delete anything you counter them with so they don't look like massive tools on their own site.

I love that it's here to be read, that's a good reply.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 17, 2005, 01:38 AM
Of all the Rebelscum staff, Dave is the only one that I've ever met.  He was a great guy and went out of his way to make sure that I got a chance to see ROTS on opening night as I couldn't use the tickets I bought due to a last minute business trip to Vancouver.

So consider that me sticking up for him even if you don't agree with his moderating.
Title: MatKatNadam, JediDefender's Stalker In The Bushes
Post by: Jackhole on December 17, 2005, 03:15 AM
Awwwwwwww ;D

You guys just don't know how endearing it is to drop by good ole Jedi defender and see that you retards are still obsessing over me.  And Zod, that avatar, I know I'm a sexy guy but you don't have to flaunt my beautiful mug all over your boards.  Perhaps your lustful feelings for me go deeper than the other douchebags here who just can't get over themselves.  And I guess the true maturity level of JD has finally boiled over the brim when a grown man needs to take the photo of the apple of his eye and alter it so all the other kids can chuckle, while other members immortalize me in their sig files.

It's a good thing you all choose to make fun of me here, where you know I can't defend myself.  Must be easy to make fun of people whom you THINK won't hear about it.  As far as you babies crying over being schooled over at RS for flaming me, perhaps it just never occured to you all that I may be right?  Maybe DBB isn't my friend.  Maybe we've had as many arguements as anyone else, and maybe Dustin's banned me for a week at a time before.  Trust me I have no mods or admins in my pocket, they just happen to agree that you JD ***** need to get your flaming kicks somewhere else.

Well you're all on my ignore list over at RS (per instruction of my "friends" on the RS staff) so we won't be having any problems there.  You should do the same.  It would seem like the adult thing to do rather than flame me and come cry to JD about it when a mod closes your threads.  Just ignore me.  If you don't like me, fine.  I can handle it.  Honestly I don't like any of you either and could give a **** less if you fell out of ******* plane right now and died.  Why?  Because I don't ******* know any of you.  I don't care about any of you.  I know you still have these hardcore obsessions with me, but the feeling's not mutual.  Get over me.

Anyways, I'm sure I'll be banned before I get any decent replies.  JD has this awesome tolerance policy of banning people they don't like for the way they act in OTHER forums.  Maybe that's why JD has 1,000 people who do nothing but cry about RS while RS actually has threads?  But, should the lovely staff of this facility care to settle the score and let me stay do defend myself for a while as opposed to booting me and letting the one-sided bitch-fest ensue, I would be happy to partake.  If not, then I'll see you next time I get around to erasing my cookies.  And I will come back.  I have fans to please 8)

Thanks for all the had work and dedication at making me a legend ;)

Love always,
Matt

PS - Way to go Skyhoucker!  Oh and MAC - good seeing you again buddy! ;)

EDIT:  Just changed the title...  I thought maybe something more fitting was in line for this post.

EDIT:  Changed it again...  :)  Cuz I can pud****.
Title: Katmandu Strikes Back!
Post by: JediMAC on December 17, 2005, 03:31 AM
It's a good thing you all choose to make fun of me here, where you know I can't defend myself.  Must be easy to make fun of people whom you THINK won't hear about it. 

Are you kidding, Matt?  We've all been operating under the assumption that you've been enjoying reading this thread the entire time.  Heck, we see you trying to log back into JD with your banned accounts all the time (in the ban log).  So I'm quite certain that no one's trying to hide anything from you here.  They just can't say all this (honest) stuff about you over at RS, that's all.

We also noticed that you re-registered here at JD a couple days ago, and instead of banning you outright, we decided to hold off and let you chime in here, since we figured it'd be much more entertaining that way, so thank you for proving us right.  Took you long enough.

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If you don't like me, fine.  I can handle it.

Yes, we can see that.  :P

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Anyways, I'm sure I'll be banned before I get any decent replies.

Ya' know, I think we'll let you stick around a little longer to continue this conversation if you'd like, since it does nothing but prove everything that's already been said about you here...  The entertainment value that you always provide is absolutely priceless.

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Oh and MAC - good seeing you again buddy! ;)

Sorry to disappoint you by not adding to the bitchfest in here about you.  I know that must've frustrated you to no end.  But I'm glad to see you too, since the laugh is always worth it.  Now please be sure to fill my PM inbox with the most disgustingly homophobic and juvenile bull**** imaginable before you leave, just like you did at RS.  Always a fun read.
Title: Re: Katmandu Strikes Back!
Post by: Ook on December 17, 2005, 03:37 AM
Ya' know, I think we'll let you stick around a little longer to continue this conversation if you'd like, since it does nothing but prove everything that's already been said about you here...

Boy, is that ever the truth.
Title: Boo!
Post by: Jackhole on December 17, 2005, 04:07 AM
Ya' know, I think we'll let you stick around a little longer to continue this conversation if you'd like, since it does nothing but prove everything that's already been said about you here...

Boy, is that ever the truth.

Big words, Krull.  Jumped on the bandwagon I see.  And congrats on your ban as well.

Watching this site over the past few months has given me quite a few laughs as well.  This site should just be renamed "Rebelscum's Rejects and Refugees" or "Philip's Sloppy Seconds".  What a circle-jerk of rejects you guys are.  I hope you ban me soon because I don't want to be affiliated with this pile of dung forum for any exhorbant amount of time.

Oh and MAC, I wan't disappointed at all.  Your minions handled the bitch-fest quite well.  I'd almost gone as far as to think that you'd finally grown up.  I'm proud of you.
Title: Re: Jedidefender- Where all the douchbags cry about me
Post by: JediMAC on December 17, 2005, 04:12 AM
I hope you ban me soon because I don't want to be affiliated with this pile of dung forum for any exhorbant amount of time.

I'll assume you mean exhorbitant there.  But no, please stick around.  This is fun!  :P

Also, feel free to invite any of your friends over here too, Matt, especially if you feel like you need some support.  The more the merrier.

EDIT:  Just changed the title...  I thought maybe something more fitting was in line for this post.

EDIT:  Just changed the title... change your own ******* subject lines, dick.

What'd you (briefly) edit the title to, Jesse?  I rather liked his original one of "JEDIDEFENDER SUCKS!!!"  Of course, his new one is pretty good too...

 :P

BTW, who's editing out all the "*****" in his post - us, or him?  If it's Jackhole himself, Matt, you should know that you're welcome to swear up a storm here, just like you do in all of your PMs to everyone.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 17, 2005, 04:44 AM
Not me, I have all his replies in their pseudo-hillbilly glory with **** this and **** that right in there...  Like watching Jerry Springer, yet somehow sadder for the guest.  I'm only editing his titles...  Trying to get used to actually having to moderate someone and all that jazz.
Title: Re: Boo!
Post by: Ook on December 17, 2005, 04:57 AM
Jumped on the bandwagon I see.

JD? No. Been here longer than you've been on RS. Or the bandwagon where everyone thinks you're a total wanker? No, again. That was obvious when you first started posting.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: jjks on December 17, 2005, 05:10 AM
Please don't ban him again yet, I need him around a little while so I can get some fresh material for future sig lines  ;D
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: RenegadeJedi on December 17, 2005, 08:10 AM
Have not been visiting Star Wars sites lately but happened upon this thread today...This MisterKenobi fellow over at Rebelscum is THE BIGGEST PIECE of garbage EVER!!!

The biggest question I have for him...are you still married?!?!? Asking SW Geeks for marriage advice...PRICELESS!!!!

I miss the old Matkatnadam name...Kat must have moved on to a real man...not someone who spends all day EVERYDAY posting in everythread known to man!

Keep piling on the piece of garbage boys...if he didn't care he certainly wouldn't be posting here and also would not be trying to log in with banned screen names!!!

Later DORK!!!!!
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 17, 2005, 08:14 AM
Indeed...  And with that, I'm going to be putting a gag on him till one of the other staff decides they can be here to babysit him and let him speak his "defense".  He's done a smashing job of it so far though...   ::) 

Really winning those hearts and minds with such intellectual banter as he's displayed so far.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Mikey D on December 17, 2005, 08:35 AM
Please don't ban him again yet, I need him around a little while so I can get some fresh material for future sig lines  ;D

He makes it so easy doesn't he?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JohnH on December 17, 2005, 10:17 AM
Guys, stop picking on the guy.  Can't you see he just needs some affection?

(http://www.geocities.com/daddysnaggle/baby.jpg)

He was so happy!  I think if we all just gave him a big hug he'd be nice to all of us.   :-*

John
Title: Re: MatKatNadam, JediDefender's Stalker In The Bushes
Post by: Rob on December 17, 2005, 11:45 AM
It's a good thing you all choose to make fun of me here, where you know I can't defend myself.  Must be easy to make fun of people whom you THINK won't hear about it

Believe you me if there's one thing I THINK, it's that you will be watching this place constantly or will have someone else doing it to let you know about every little negative word that is said about you.  And we dont' do it because you won't be able to defend yourself, we do it because we CAN'T do it at that other site where you CAN defend yourself.  I had a feeling that my kick ass avatar would be the final straw that drew you out of the woodwork.   Sounds like it's a keeper.

Welcome to Jedidefender, enjoy your brief stay.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: JoshEEE on December 17, 2005, 12:57 PM
So....did someone ban Matt again?   

Hasn't anyone ever seen Empire Records?  I think Matt may be a little like Warren.  Very explosive and angry on the outside, but really, he just wants to hang out here and be one of "the crowd".  Granted, he'll come back with a gun until you give him a nametag, but perhaps, if you guys let him stay....he'd end up being  a model citizen.

Then again, that was just a movie.  Maybe it would just be all flame wars and photoshopping.  I have no idea.  ;D

Seriously though, I've actually seen him be decent over there from time to time...so I know it's possible.  I'm not sure what it takes to make him turn off the "Dark Side" switch, but there's gotta be something.
Title: Re: MatKatNadam, JediDefender's Stalker In The Bushes
Post by: MetalJedi on December 17, 2005, 01:40 PM
JD has this awesome tolerance policy of banning people they don't like for the way they act in OTHER forums. 

I think you have us confused with another website that you frequent ALOT. Anyway Im sure your too busy pudfucking to care.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 17, 2005, 01:47 PM
Awwwwwwww ;D

You guys just don't know how endearing it is to drop by good ole Jedi defender and see that you retards are still obsessing over me.  And Zod, that avatar, I know I'm an ugly fat guy but you don't have to flaunt my porkchop mug all over your boards.  Perhaps your lustful feelings for me go deeper than the other cutiepies here who just can't get over themselves.  And I guess the true maturity level of JD has finally boiled over the brim when a grown man needs to take the photo of the apple of his eye and alter it so all the other kids can get horny, too, while other members immortalize my dip**** comments in their sig files.

It's a good thing you all choose to make fun of me here, where you know I can't defend myself (even though I'm kinda trying to do that now  ;) ).  Must be easy to make fun of people whom you THINK won't hear about it.  As far as you babies crying over being schooled over at RS for flaming me, perhaps it just never occured to you all that I may be right?  I am, in fact, the son of God.  Maybe DBB isn't my friend.  Maybe we've had as much sex as Britney and Kevin, and maybe Dustin doesn't like my chin hair on his ass cheeks as much as DBB.  Trust me I have no mods or admins in my pocket, they just happen to agree that there is no better lover than me!

Well you're all on my ignore list over at RS (per instruction of my "boyfriends" on the RS staff) so we won't be having any problems there.  You should do the same.  It would seem like the adult thing to do rather than dream about me and come cry to JD about it when a mod gets to touch me in places that you can't.  Just ignore me.  If you don't like me, fine.  I can handle it.  Honestly I don't like any of you either and could give a **** less if you fell out of my bed right now and died.  Why?  Because I don't want anymore STDs.  DBB gave me plenty already.  I don't care about any of you as much as DBB and Dustin.  I know you still have these hardcore obsessions with me, but the feeling's not mutual.  Get over me. This ship has sailed.

Anyways, I'm sure I'll be banned before I get any decent replies.  JD has this awesome tolerance policy of banning people that won't sleep with them based on me being a fat retard.  Maybe that's why JD has 1,000 people who do nothing but cry about me while I have real friends.  But, should the lovely staff of this facility care to settle the score and let me stay do defend myself, and maybe do a little striptease for ya, as opposed to booting me and letting the one-sided bitch-fest ensue, I would be happy to partake in any compromising acts that you'll let me!  If not, then I'll see you next time I get around to erasing my cookies.  And I will come back.  I have fans to please 8)

Thanks for all the hard work and dedication at making me a legend ;)... Watch out, John Holmes!

Love always,
Matt

PS - Way to go Skyhoucker!  Oh and MAC - good seeing you again buddy! ;)

EDIT:  Just changed the title...  I thought maybe something more fitting was in line for this post.

EDIT:  Changed it again...  :)  Cuz I can pud****.


Matt PM'd me and asked me to repost this for him... He edited it with his true feelings.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 17, 2005, 02:53 PM
Reminds me of me, when I used to come over here and start some!! ;D
Title: Re: Boo!
Post by: CHEWIE on December 17, 2005, 02:54 PM
Ya' know, I think we'll let you stick around a little longer to continue this conversation if you'd like, since it does nothing but prove everything that's already been said about you here...

Boy, is that ever the truth.

Big words, Krull.  Jumped on the bandwagon I see.  And congrats on your ban as well.

Watching this site over the past few months has given me quite a few laughs as well.  This site should just be renamed "Rebelscum's Rejects and Refugees" or "Philip's Sloppy Seconds".  What a circle-jerk of rejects you guys are.  I hope you ban me soon because I don't want to be affiliated with this pile of dung forum for any exhorbant amount of time.

Oh and MAC, I wan't disappointed at all.  Your minions handled the bitch-fest quite well.  I'd almost gone as far as to think that you'd finally grown up.  I'm proud of you.

If you don't like it here, simply leave.  Coming in here and ripping on people is immature and shows your lack of respect for other collectors as you are disrespecting people who may have never joined the other site in the first place, and have nothing to do with the hard feelings between some of the staff between the sites.  It's like Howard Dean announcing "I hate all Republicans" - pretty narrow minded thought process.

Do I hate Scum?  No - and I don't love it either.  I choose both sites, but don't go ripping on someone even if I don't like how they handle something.  I've had a few issues with them and an issue here too, but don't go blasting people when it's not something that could be handled in a mature manner.  Voicing one's opinion is one thing, but flat out attacks show a weak level of intelligence and no patience or willing to understand some else's reasoning. 

Nobody but yourself forces you to come here.  So again, if you want to get banned, become a troll here, or just simply leave and don't come back.  If you want to maybe make some more friends here, think back to why you started joining forums in the first place - was it to cause problems, or to enjoy the hobby?

 :P
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Xander on December 17, 2005, 04:34 PM
Whoa! Now that's a homoerotic post (mr Jackhole's).
Its a good thing this forum is so open, because no way would that fly at RS.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 17, 2005, 05:25 PM
Guys, stop picking on the guy.  Can't you see he just needs some affection?

He was so happy!  I think if we all just gave him a big hug he'd be nice to all of us.   :-*

John

I don't think that's fair to photoshop the image of a certified genius into an image of an infant.  To right the ship, here are some undoctored photos...







(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Real_Men_of_Genius.jpg)


Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: RenegadeJedi on December 17, 2005, 05:53 PM

Deleted to tone things down.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 17, 2005, 06:31 PM
How about we tone it down a notch mmmkay?
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: RenegadeJedi on December 17, 2005, 07:20 PM
Rob,

OK  ::)  I am not photo shopping images or anything...I deleted my post to make you happy. No offense but I find that last post of your a tad two-faced. I get told to tone it down when you are sticking this guys photos in various pictures.

I simply called someone annoying. Looks like a different set of rules for the powers that be here at these boards as well...too bad.  :'(

RJ
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 17, 2005, 08:13 PM
PM sent.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Sems Fir on December 17, 2005, 08:24 PM
Jackhole originally wrote:

" I am, in fact, the son of God".

Sems Fir writes:

I dealt with someone at RS (who's a moderator) once who thought he was "God".   ;D  It spawned a priceless signature line.  I'm not attacking anyone in this thread but I believe the scrolling image of the moderator with his wings should be inserted in this thread as the word "God" has been written!  Although why do I get the idea that someone is going to photoshop a new image over the old one.

Robert
www.behindthetoys.com (http://www.behindthetoys.com)
LEAD EDITOR
BLACK S. U. N.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 17, 2005, 09:16 PM
Awwwwwwww ;D

You guys just don't know how endearing it is to drop by good ole Jedi defender and see that you retards are still obsessing over me.  And Zod, that avatar, I know I'm an ugly fat guy but you don't have to flaunt my porkchop mug all over your boards.  Perhaps your lustful feelings for me go deeper than the other cutiepies here who just can't get over themselves.  And I guess the true maturity level of JD has finally boiled over the brim when a grown man needs to take the photo of the apple of his eye and alter it so all the other kids can get horny, too, while other members immortalize my dip**** comments in their sig files.

It's a good thing you all choose to make fun of me here, where you know I can't defend myself (even though I'm kinda trying to do that now  ;) ).  Must be easy to make fun of people whom you THINK won't hear about it.  As far as you babies crying over being schooled over at RS for flaming me, perhaps it just never occured to you all that I may be right?  I am, in fact, the son of God.  Maybe DBB isn't my friend.  Maybe we've had as much sex as Britney and Kevin, and maybe Dustin doesn't like my chin hair on his ass cheeks as much as DBB.  Trust me I have no mods or admins in my pocket, they just happen to agree that there is no better lover than me!

Well you're all on my ignore list over at RS (per instruction of my "boyfriends" on the RS staff) so we won't be having any problems there.  You should do the same.  It would seem like the adult thing to do rather than dream about me and come cry to JD about it when a mod gets to touch me in places that you can't.  Just ignore me.  If you don't like me, fine.  I can handle it.  Honestly I don't like any of you either and could give a **** less if you fell out of my bed right now and died.  Why?  Because I don't want anymore STDs.  DBB gave me plenty already.  I don't care about any of you as much as DBB and Dustin.  I know you still have these hardcore obsessions with me, but the feeling's not mutual.  Get over me. This ship has sailed.

Anyways, I'm sure I'll be banned before I get any decent replies.  JD has this awesome tolerance policy of banning people that won't sleep with them based on me being a fat retard.  Maybe that's why JD has 1,000 people who do nothing but cry about me while I have real friends.  But, should the lovely staff of this facility care to settle the score and let me stay do defend myself, and maybe do a little striptease for ya, as opposed to booting me and letting the one-sided bitch-fest ensue, I would be happy to partake in any compromising acts that you'll let me!  If not, then I'll see you next time I get around to erasing my cookies.  And I will come back.  I have fans to please 8)

Thanks for all the hard work and dedication at making me a legend ;)... Watch out, John Holmes!

Love always,
Matt

PS - Way to go Skyhoucker!  Oh and MAC - good seeing you again buddy! ;)

EDIT:  Just changed the title...  I thought maybe something more fitting was in line for this post.

EDIT:  Changed it again...  :)  Cuz I can pud****.


Matt PM'd me and asked me to repost this for him... He edited it with his true feelings.


Just so everyone knows, ******bag didNOT PM me what he wanted to say.  I changed it myself just for a laugh... it was funny.  Sorry.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: RenegadeJedi on December 17, 2005, 10:53 PM
Rob,

PM sent back! (I think it sent)

And now back to the topic at hand!!!!

Lets send MR Feeny (LOL...did anyone see his new picture?!?) to JibJab to star in there next short!

"For one to truly understand the great saga, one must let go of the narrow, dogmatic view stepping in poop, farting, and bad acting have on bogging down the prequals!!!!"
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jesse James on December 18, 2005, 02:37 AM
So....did someone ban Matt again?   

(Text Cut)

Seriously though, I've actually seen him be decent over there from time to time...so I know it's possible.  I'm not sure what it takes to make him turn off the "Dark Side" switch, but there's gotta be something.

Yeah, I wound up doing so because he isn't in any mood to "defend" himself considering he came out swinging, and basically I didn't feel like leaving the door open for him...  He'd gotten inadvertantly banned, but I'd re-opened his account...  He'd left at that point though, and it was going on 6 when I wanted to get out of here and catch some Z's on my Saturday so yes he got re-owned because basically it wasn't worth the effort at the time and nobody was around to pull together a babysitter's club for him.

As far as how he is capable of behaving...  I've seen him be civil too at times, but he's always the kinda guy who reverts back to calling someone names, putting someone down, talking down to some demographic of people, or just trying to see how far he can bend the rules...  I think he only behaves when told to do so, and eventually reverts back to being himself.  People are what they are, and I don't believe change is something most are capable of, especially when they don't believe they are the problem anyway.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Famine on December 18, 2005, 09:33 AM
I would call that a smackdown, but by using those guy's logic from the thread, Christmas has nothing to do with religion anymore. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 19, 2005, 10:53 AM
I also enjoy Kurt Cobain and his music, and the life he led

This is my fav comment I got him to admit too.  Anyone who "enjoys" Cobain's life is a loser. 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Logray2776 on December 19, 2005, 01:23 PM
I just had to come out of lurking and post for a change.


I have noticed the quality of this gentlemans posts, and what i can gather from them, seems like he has a crush on JediMac( no offense there sir). The other thing is when he makes a thread on who misses grunge rock, when he gets a couple of negative from other posters he just seems to berate them and talk(post) to them.


That is just my thinking, I may be wrong.


                                                               Logray
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 19, 2005, 01:30 PM
Now they're locking all Holiday threads.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Logray2776 on December 19, 2005, 01:38 PM
Now what is the purpose of locking holiday threads it isnt talking about religion, all they are doing is wishing people happy holidays.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 19, 2005, 01:45 PM
Now what is the purpose of locking holiday threads it isnt talking about religion, all they are doing is wishing people happy holidays.

Because they are ******* pathetic.
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Darth Kenobi on December 19, 2005, 02:25 PM
That is some stuipid **** thats happening there with the hoilday threads getting lock because there are reglious.  One thing that I wonder about through is the fact that only the Chanukah threads have been lock over there and none of the Chirstmas threads have been lock.  I know that the staff here doesn't like a certain word being used to describe RS but there better either lock all the Christmas threads or else look like those I can't talk about.


Also here's another gem from MisterKenobi from the feedback thread:
"I wouldn't be claiming race either. I don't think race has anything to do with it."


While Jewish people aren't a race (that I know of) they are a group of people who have faced alot worst then most people in the History of mankind whether its be in the middle ages or the holocust or now.   
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Rob on December 19, 2005, 02:31 PM
I couldn't help but notice this tidbit in MisterKenobi's profile - more specifically, this is his bio:

"Be sure to visit Jedidefender's forum for a great place to complain and obsess about me with the rest of the ladies. "

Now, I could be wrong, but I think a lot of Jedi Defender members were banned from the Rebelscum forums for referring people to a Jedi Defender.

So, I think it would only be legitimate for MisterKenobi to be banned as well.  At very least they'll need to edit that profile to remove the reference to Jedi Defender - since that is specifically against Rebelscum's rules.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris M on December 19, 2005, 04:21 PM
Speaking of RS's rules, I got my signature removed...the same one I have here.  It's been in my name for 2+ years and nobody has said a word until now.  I wasn't actively promoting the other site.  Dustin was also kind enough to stick a copy of the "rules" for signatures and not promoting other sites.

Needless to say, there are others there who are allowed to have a number of SW collecting sites mentioned in their signatures.  I guess PW is now trying to stamp out all competition. 
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Jeff on December 19, 2005, 04:45 PM
Needless to say, there are others there who are allowed to have a number of SW collecting sites mentioned in their signatures. I guess PW is now trying to stamp out all competition.


You (and many others) seem to have missed my post from waaaaay back in November...  I got banned for pointing out how stupid that rule was since no less than 3 of the admins over there ALL have sig lines that promote other websites.   ::)

Since we are talking RS again this week, I guess I should let you all know that my account at RS was banned/deleted last Thursday...

Apparently, you are no longer allowed to point out any hypocrisy (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1500312&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1500312) that the RS Mods/Admins may posess.


The Admins over at RS were issuing warnings to forum members who have links in their signatures, citing this passage from the "official" RS forum rules:  "But using forum posts, or links in your signature designed to promote another Star Wars collecting website is not permitted. "

One admin in particular went so far as to say "If you truly respect the community you will choose to follow the same guidelines everyone else respects".

So, then I asked why at least 3 of the Admins/Mods over there all have links in their signatures that were "designed to promote another Star Wars collecting website "?  If they truely respected the community, shouldn't they have to follow the rules too?


And, as you can all guess - I did not get a straight answer, I only ended up with "Your account has been banned or locked" and an e-mail stating my affiliation with JD was the cause of my ban.    ::)

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on December 19, 2005, 04:53 PM
I started a sort of complaint thread over in the RS custom boards and I'm just hoping that I'm not going to get banned for it. I was just asking people to stop post padding but from what I've heard lately, the mods aren't taking any crap from anyone.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Sems Fir on December 19, 2005, 05:12 PM
Speaking of RS's rules, I got my signature removed...the same one I have here.  It's been in my name for 2+ years and nobody has said a word until now.  I wasn't actively promoting the other site.  Dustin was also kind enough to stick a copy of the "rules" for signatures and not promoting other sites.

Needless to say, there are others there who are allowed to have a number of SW collecting sites mentioned in their signatures.  I guess PW is now trying to stamp out all competition. 

Don't feel bad, I received the same email, and pointed out examples as well about the signature line usage.  I inquired for an exception to be made, as the forum rules state exceptions can be made by Philip but was denied.  I find it hard to believe that all those exceptions were granted.  Originally, I did not feel singled out but since your site signature has been removed, one has to wonder what is going on.  I've been around a long time, only post there (or anywhere for that matter) when I feel it's necessary, and not once have I ever utilized profanity, like some members over there, have the respect of the community but I was still denied.  It's Philip's site to do with as he wishes and I have complied as I respect the rules that he has in place.  In turn, a couple of images of mine have been removed from RS as they did not inquire for permission to use them.  His site, his rules, my images, my usage.

Robert
www.behindthetoys.com (http://www.behindthetoys.com)
LEAD EDITOR
BLACK S. U. N.

EDIT: Fixed signature tag  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris M on December 19, 2005, 05:18 PM
Good point Robert.  That is probably the reason I won't make a big stink about it.  Although I do find it hypocritical that some members are allowed to do it, while others are not.

That said, let me say thanks to the great staff at JD, whom I have traded with most of them now, by letting me keep a site in my signature.  I hope I'm not violating the rules here. ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 19, 2005, 05:34 PM
RS's favorite assbag made an appearance again today after a short absence.. what a mental case.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 19, 2005, 05:39 PM
Yea, good ol Greenday came back for another round of apologys followed by insults!! This short bus rider is definately annoying!! >:( ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on December 19, 2005, 07:23 PM
For more website hyocrisy, let me point out this (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1557123&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1) post in the Lego forum...

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And what is your site anyway? Take the opportunity to give it a free plug :D

Jeremy

 ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: SilverZ on December 19, 2005, 07:33 PM
Yea, good ol Greenday came back for another round of apologys followed by insults!! This short bus rider is definately annoying!! >:( ;D

Any links? I love that guy.  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 19, 2005, 07:39 PM
No, no links! His one thread that he started got deleted/moved to an admin only area!! It was just more of the cretin apologizing and then insulting everyone!! You know, standard Green Day stuff!! ;)

Well here is one of his stupendous posts that can still be seen?! Green Day fun!! (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php? Cat=&Number=1570275&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1570275)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: Commander Cody on December 19, 2005, 09:14 PM
That is some stuipid **** thats happening there with the hoilday threads getting lock because there are reglious.  One thing that I wonder about through is the fact that only the Chanukah threads have been lock over there and none of the Chirstmas threads have been lock.  I know that the staff here doesn't like a certain word being used to describe RS but there better either lock all the Christmas threads or else look like those I can't talk about.


Yeah. That's ridiculous. I guess the guys at RS really are... power-hungry control mongers.

(edited)
Title: Re: RS deletes accounts
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 19, 2005, 09:50 PM
Yeah. That's ridiculous. I guess the guys at RS really are nazis.

Oh, they just LOVE being called that.

As a longtime reader of RS, I can partially understand their reasoning behind the no politics/religion thread policy.  There were a lot of idiots that would get on very very long tirades back in the day and one time, they just decided to end it with the NO policy.

But, keep calling them nazis...that helps.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 19, 2005, 10:04 PM
Just to say, we have a general anti-war/politics stance here too and we'd carry that to Religious debates that do breed bad blood, so I don't think that's a bad way to look at things from the perspective of running a forum...

Dunno why a "happy holidays" thread can't just sum everything up for some, but whatever...  It's not a debate, it's well wishing, so one thread should have sufficed the masses...  That's what likely should have gone down.  I wouldn't want to see umpteen threads for all various religions, and subsequent fighting over said religions, over here either but locking well-wishing threads seems odd unless there was fighting.

For the record guys, try not to throw the term Nazi around either...  I know we all have our beef with Scum but the term's pretty much only applicable to actual Nazi's not a forum that's run half-assed. :)  I saw a great Daily Show about how liberally the term Nazi was used by politicians, and it really is a term we should hold in reserve for like actual Nazi behavior...  Scum's still run like **** though, no disagreement there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Commander Cody on December 20, 2005, 01:00 AM
Fine. Then they're just anti-semetic jacka**es.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 20, 2005, 01:04 AM
Jackasses will suffice...  They're not anti-semites, Nazi's, Fascists, pedophiles or anything else "over the top" for running their site like ****...  Jackasses I can definitely live with though. :)

It should be noted too that "they" doesn't refer to everyone...  There's plenty of good staffers at Scum I'm sure, and I'm sure the ones who take the blame for how in the toilet their forums are aren't all bad people or bad in general, the forums just are not run well at all and there's a huge lack of respect for where those forums came from and for the people who actually made them a good place at one point in time... 

Those days are LONG gone though.  Long gone.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on December 20, 2005, 01:24 AM
...There's plenty of good staffers at Scum I'm sure...

I don't know if I'd say "plenty", but Mark Hurray is a very cool, down-to-earth nice guy and I like Dan Curto as well.  Shane's a good guy too...  I think that may be it for me though, not counting some of their less prominent staff members who I don't know as well.  I could do without the other four main guys over there though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 20, 2005, 01:29 AM
Well, given the answers/snide remarks, and condescending attitude out of the guys I've seen running the forums, I'd relegate most of any anymosity to them...  But I know Curto's a nice guy just by talking to him, Shane of course...  They're the guys that, by my POV, don't have much to do with the forums ever though...

It's the guys telling you basically that the rules don't apply to themselves, but they do apply to you...  Or the guys who tell you basically that you're wrong and they're right simply because they "say so" and lock your thread (and/or delete it)...  Those are the guys you just can't respect.  I'm sure even the behaviors on the forums from some aren't the behaviors they'd exhibit to you in person though.  I've never known anyone I've met from this hobby, including the pricks, to be anything but civil in person...  Either out of respect or simply out of fear of actually getting a slap across the mouth for the way some people are known to talk to each other on forums.  Sometimes a monitor makes people think much higher of themselves is what I'm getting at.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Commander Cody on December 20, 2005, 02:20 AM
Jackasses will suffice...  They're not anti-semites, Nazi's, Fascists, pedophiles or anything else "over the top" for running their site like ****...  Jackasses I can definitely live with though. :)


Closing the Chanukah thread and leaving the Christmas ones open seems pretty damn anti-Jewish to me. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 20, 2005, 02:33 AM
Eh, seems more like poor judgment on DarthBigBoy's part, as I believe he's the one who's been doing the closing I think...  I'm not 100% sure, but I'm not watching this dribble either.  Why one wouldn't just lock everything into one thread for the "Holidays" makes no sense to me, but whatever.  I look around our forums and rather than a thread for every little thing we often have discussions on a whole wave of figures in one thread...  Simplifies things I've noticed.

Since the Holidays aren't just a time for Christians or Jews, and because it can be a generally celebrated time by all, it deserves its own thread...  Only at Rebelscum can a fight erupt over which holidays need their own threads. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on December 20, 2005, 03:17 AM
Ok, someone's going to have to tell me what happened to the thread where the guy was quitting collecting Justice League figures because they released a holiday employees only toy, and I told him it was the same thing as Gentle Giant Holiday busts.

When I left, the thread wasn't nasty or anything, it was just discussion. I come back home and it's mysteriously gone.  Does anyone know what happened to it?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 20, 2005, 04:23 AM
Hmmm, don't have a clue on that one Josh though I saw the thread.  Seemed civil enough but maybe a big flamewar opened up.  It was bound to because it was someone upset about something being told information I'm sure he didn't want to hear and given the way some people relay information over there...  Well I'm sure it got ugly fast.

When you're mad, you're mad...  The guy has a point from the uber completists point of view, however the uber completists POV is probably not near the majority, so the majority would have inevitably unloaded upon him (I believe it was IslandofSoldor making the complaint?)...  Not all, but I know someone was going to take his rant as "crying", "whining", or whatnot, and a fight would surely be on.  It's sort of a pattern I've noticed though words/terms and subject matter are sometimes different.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 20, 2005, 12:15 PM
It was there when I last checked in, maybe he asked that it be deleted!! I don't think it got out of hand at all!!

But I gotta say JoshEEE, when someone is venting like that and has his blood up, best not make comments that would make em angrier!! I mean come on, calling him a fairweathered fan is really the opposite of what he was acting like!! Everyone collects different ways, and he was just frusterated that a favorite line of his was not going to make a very important character in the DC Universe available to everyone. Know what I mean?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on December 20, 2005, 12:50 PM
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Know what I mean?

Well, yeah.  But that's the thing. I wasn't interested in that thread to tease the guy, I was genuinely interested in why his entire hobby was worth giving up because the employees of the company that makes them got a gift he can't get.

I saw people saying the same thing last year about the Gentle Giant stuff and it just perplexes me.  I've seen some pieces in private collections that will never see the light of day, and that I'll NEVER own....but it hasn't caused me to want to quit collecting altogether.

So yeah, that topic was interesting to me, because there was someone quitting their entire hobby because he couldn't have one figure.  Then the topic went away.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on December 20, 2005, 12:52 PM
That's another thing.... if a topic has decent conversation going on, I don't think it should just be deleted because the person who started it asks it to be - once other people have made posts and asked questions and initiated a discussion, it's just as much 'their' thread as it is the person who started it.

Just my opinion though.



Also, for the record, I know that it was Dustin who closed at least one of the Chanukah threads.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on December 20, 2005, 04:59 PM
The topic starter of that thread actually emailed me to ask where the thread went.

He doesn't know either.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 20, 2005, 09:52 PM
Why don't you ask what happened to the thread JoshEEE ol boy?? ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 20, 2005, 10:46 PM
Also, for the record, I know that it was Dustin who closed at least one of the Chanukah threads.

Well he's not been known for the best judgment either.  :-X
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 21, 2005, 12:35 AM
Ok, someone's going to have to tell me what happened to the thread where the guy was quitting collecting Justice League figures because they released a holiday employees only toy, and I told him it was the same thing as Gentle Giant Holiday busts.

I'm curious, what figure are they making for the employees?

As for the whole quitting collecting thing, I never got that either.  Seems like that hasn't been a big deal with SW lately but a year or so ago practically every other day someone was quitting because they couldn't find this figure or that bust or what have you.

I figured, go ahead and quit.  More toys for the rest of us.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on December 21, 2005, 12:51 AM
Hal Jordan Green lantern figure.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 21, 2005, 01:00 AM
Yeah, from what the memo or web site said, it was going to be the only Hal Jordan figure made in the JLA style, which is really weird. Even if he only appeared in one episode, this is Green Lantern to most anyone who grew up reading Gren Lantern comics.  Hell even the people who used to watch Challenge of the Superfriends or the later show in the early 80's!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 21, 2005, 01:19 AM
Hal Jordan Green lantern figure.

Kevin

Ouch.  Yeah, I can see how that would T-off some collectors.  Still, not a reason to pack in the whole collection and move on.

Even though the SW line has some harder to get exclusives, I'm still glad we haven't been exposed to chase figures or releases like this.  The Toy Fair Vader is probably the closest example and even that was offered to Fan Club members eventually.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 21, 2005, 11:16 AM
Ok, someone's going to have to tell me what happened to the thread where the guy was quitting collecting Justice League figures because they released a holiday employees only toy, and I told him it was the same thing as Gentle Giant Holiday busts.

I'm curious, what figure are they making for the employees?

As for the whole quitting collecting thing, I never got that either. 
   E...

Reminds me of the hoopla over the press kits. People were very angry they weren't avaiable to the public.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Skyhoucker on December 21, 2005, 03:58 PM
Ok, someone's going to have to tell me what happened to the thread where the guy was quitting collecting Justice League figures because they released a holiday employees only toy, and I told him it was the same thing as Gentle Giant Holiday busts.

I'm curious, what figure are they making for the employees?

As for the whole quitting collecting thing, I never got that either. 
   E...

Reminds me of the hoopla over the press kits. People were very angry they weren't avaiable to the public.

Yeah, and you can get them on eBay... it'll only cost you your children's college fund!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 21, 2005, 04:59 PM
Yea but the press kit are the exact same figures, right. Perhaps a minor paint change here and there but it's the same figure as the regular releases!!

So far the site said that Jordan will never be released!! That'd be like having oh let see, Boba Fett were never to be released!! Not just a particular version, but any Boba Fett!!  Now if they release a different version later on, then meh, no big deal!! Oh well, they'll get backlash from the info leaking onto the net. Just like Playmates did with their 1301 figures!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 22, 2005, 12:53 AM
Oh well, they'll get backlash from the info leaking onto the net. Just like Playmates did with their 1301 figures!!

1701.  Good God, woman, if there had only be 1301 figures there would have been rioting in the streets!!!   ;D

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 22, 2005, 06:45 PM
 ;D Please forgive, what was I thinking 1301?? NCC 1701!! I was only off by 400!! ;) You're right though, had there only been 1301, if would have been pandemonium!!! 8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: jjks on December 23, 2005, 07:55 PM
Interesting! (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1579634&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1579634)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on December 23, 2005, 10:48 PM
Interesting! (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1579634&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1579634)
Closed due to "converse" being the nom de jour of Greenday most likely... He showed up last night at GH as xxrebelxx... already dealt with...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 23, 2005, 11:47 PM
So he hits them as well!! Damn this kid is annoyingly relentless!! ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on December 24, 2005, 08:32 PM
Is he gone? Jeez, he showed up last night in the Customs at RS and started cussing up a storm. I PM'd asking him to stop and all I got was more swearing and cussing. I told him he had no life and no friends and he's got issues. He probably has Tourette's or something, he's really messed up.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: SilverZ on December 25, 2005, 01:14 AM
Teh Stoopidest Kid on teh Indernet made a brief appearance here today as well.

I'm eagerly awaiting a new petition.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on December 25, 2005, 01:33 AM
Teh Stoopidest Kid on teh Indernet made a brief appearance here today as well.

I'm eagerly awaiting a new petition.

I wonder if this Noderator will get any mention ???

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Killer185 on December 26, 2005, 03:44 PM
hahaha where have i been?! Wow i haven't been on JD for like 2 weeks and I miss out...  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 27, 2005, 10:46 AM
Teh Stoopidest Kid on teh Indernet made a brief appearance here today as well.

I'm eagerly awaiting a new petition.

He's been at DeathStarPlans2 and Commando Customs recently as well. I've said it before and I'll say it again, this kid has mental issues, and I'm being serious.

The problem is that when he comes back, he isn't caught right away. Even if you PM a mod or report him, it still takes a while for a staff member to get around to dealing with him, and by that time he's already made 8 threads and 45 posts. They need more staff members; a lot of times there isn't a single one on. I know they have lives too and everything, but a big site like Scum should be able to nip things in the bud when they appear, not a day or two later as it often is.

I'm usually against the deleting of threads, unless it is for a very good reason. It seems most of the time a simple lock would suffice, and it just seems to cause unrest whenever a thread is deleted.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on December 27, 2005, 12:33 PM
Unfortunately, since his IP changes around, you can't always just take a chance and ban someone unless you know for sure it's him, or have enough evidence. 
That being said, he typically makes it rather easy to figure out...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on December 27, 2005, 12:54 PM
Unreal that Greenday101 is one of the most famous names in Star Wars forums for 2005.   ;D

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 27, 2005, 01:04 PM
There are a couple of morons who've gotten themselves banned from 5 or 6 places, this year. Sad.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mr.MojoRisin on December 28, 2005, 09:53 AM
Heck I've been banned from there 3 times this year.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on December 28, 2005, 10:51 AM
Heck I've been banned from there 3 times this year.

Somehow, I'm not suprised.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 28, 2005, 05:04 PM
Was it for posting that link Mojo??
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 28, 2005, 05:08 PM
It's one thing to be banned for no good reason (because then you have a legitimate complaint), but to intentionally try and get banned is just stupid.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 28, 2005, 05:22 PM
Everyone's favorite idiot made an 8 post appearance today at RS.  What a loser.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mr.MojoRisin on December 28, 2005, 07:59 PM
Was it for posting that link Mojo??

Yeah, one of them was.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on December 28, 2005, 09:10 PM
When I was a member at 'scum, I would always alert the mods and admins about that person, but they took a while to ban him. I'm done at Scum, because I didn't like it there, and I'm done with that person. Constantly alerting the mods is just not worth the effort because he keeps coming back. It's not my business, so if he comes here while I'm on, I'll just ignore his posts.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on December 28, 2005, 09:41 PM
It's not my business, so if he comes here while I'm on, I'll just ignore his posts.


I like the way you think, Gregory.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on December 28, 2005, 09:56 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 28, 2005, 10:34 PM
No spam.


 ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 30, 2005, 09:35 AM
Okay, did anyone else notice these annoying "Vibrant Media" spam links on RS today?  What a worthless piece of **** that thing is.

It's ridiculous.  It turns every news page on RS into an advertisement to buy something.  Even the Question Mark section.  It used to be that software had to be installed on your local computer for that type of thing to work...and THAT was all malware that we were finally able to do away with using programs like Ad-Aware and Spybot.  But not this insidious thing. 

Crap.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on December 30, 2005, 10:31 AM
Okay, did anyone else notice these annoying "Vibrant Media" spam links on RS today?  What a worthless piece of **** that thing is.

It's ridiculous.  It turns every news page on RS into an advertisement to buy something.  Even the Question Mark section.  It used to be that software had to be installed on your local computer for that type of thing to work...and THAT was all malware that we were finally able to do away with using programs like Ad-Aware and Spybot.  But not this insidious thing. 

Crap.

   E...

Do you mean to say they've sunk to an all time low?

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on December 30, 2005, 11:20 AM
I noticed that on the RS front page, and I though it was just my computer. Since it apparently is not, RS really is... I can't even think of a word to describe that place now. Glad I left the forums.  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 30, 2005, 12:31 PM
Do you mean to say they've sunk to an all time low?

Kevin

Apparently.  Next thing you know we'll have the RebelScum Rootkit that renders all other SW news sites and forums useless on your computer.

I posted in the forum feedback section.  Apparently it's to add more income to the site to keep in running.  In other words, now that SW has left the movie theater they need to do something to keep the cash coming in as fans start to leave the hobby.  Whatever.
 
That goes along with some of the recent polls; would you buy Stargate collectibles?  How about Battlestar Galatica and Star Trek?  Sounds like a big, "what site should we start next to make more money now that this horse has been flogged" poll.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 30, 2005, 06:15 PM
haha, I'm glad you caught that E, I've talked about that with some friends...  Those polls are so sad.  Of course, Philip did get quoted basically saying he should have supported another property like LOTR because Jackson and the licensees were more in touch with fan sites over the LOTR license than SW Licensees are.

That alone told me enough...  It's all about the benjamins I guess. :)

It's funny though, those horrid looking links...  Not only do they make an already unappealing front page even moreso, they have a floating pop-up that arrives if your mouse happens over those links.  Absolutely terrible, and it just lowers my opinion of the way the site is run that much more. 

I can't imagine a site with its own crap for sale really needs more money, but what do I know?  That's just sad though, the whole thing.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 30, 2005, 07:06 PM
Well Greenday is back, so heads up to you guys he might come over here next!!! ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 30, 2005, 07:24 PM
Anyone know where that kid is?  I have a lot of connections, maybe I could call in some favors, have someone toss him a beatin'.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 30, 2005, 07:31 PM
Of course, Philip did get quoted basically saying he should have supported another property like LOTR because Jackson and the licensees were more in touch with fan sites over the LOTR license than SW Licensees are.

I've seen you, or one of the other guys here, post about that before and found it pretty funny that someone who is supposedly such a big SW fan was mad because he didn't jump on another properties bandwagon. 

I guess in business you have to jump on what's hot to make some scratch but this all should just be a hobby.  If you want to run a business, run a business and make something, don't sponge off other people's fandom by just being associated with George Lucas' vision.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 30, 2005, 07:34 PM
That's my thoughts man...  This isn't a business to me, it's fun...  I don't wanna charge my fellow collectors for autographs, nor slap my lameass logo on the picture (which is why I won't ever get an auto from that "company").   There's no integrity with some people in this hobby.  Hell, half the time scalping was being condoned openly on their forums.  You can't stop it, but don't welcome it with open arms...  Have some pride for Christ's sake.

Time to move onto BattleStar Galactica or the hoped for Hobbit movie I guess!   ::)

BTW Greenday's someone we're generally well aware of, contrary to elsewhere.  At the moment it's like a cat toying with a mouse...  So to speak.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 30, 2005, 08:02 PM
You know, I kind of disagree with you on OfficialPix.  That's actually a business and they provide a service, getting guests to shows, private signings, etc.  That I can respect, but trying to profit from a "fan" site?  That I don't like.  I even was pissed when Starwars.com started charging for access with their Hyperspace initiative.

I realize that technically a site like RS and a company like OP are the same, providing a service, but in my mind one's a legitimate business (OP) and the other isn't.  I think of RS (and all the other sites like JD and GH) as news sites and fan sites...things I think of as being free.  Putting up some ad banners to get click-throughs is one thing, you're helping support good dealers that further the hobby of your readers and it allows the site to keep running.  This new, obnoxious crapware they've got?  That's going over the top.

Sending out emails was the first step, guess we should have seen this one coming.

   E...

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on December 30, 2005, 10:25 PM

BTW Greenday's someone we're generally well aware of, contrary to elsewhere.  At the moment it's like a cat toying with a mouse...  So to speak.
... and I'm sharping my claws... ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 30, 2005, 11:41 PM
I'd agree E, except that the RS logo's all over the place...  It's still part of RS thent o me.  To me, the actors didn't need OP, they did fine on their own, this just sort of introduced a middle-man and you pay as much (or more) for auto's now and you're forced into buying that "piece" of a site you don't want (or I don't want anyway).

That's my beef...  It's a business though and that's fine...  But the whole place is becoming one.  I mean, starcases?  hah...  Whatever "helps you keep the site running" I guess.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 31, 2005, 06:58 PM
He's Baack!! (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1591834&page=0&vieollapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post1591863#1591834)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on December 31, 2005, 07:09 PM
He's Baack!! (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1591834&page=0&vieollapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post1591863#1591834)

Is your period key broken?

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 31, 2005, 07:32 PM
Anyone know where that kid is?  I have a lot of connections, maybe I could call in some favors, have someone toss him a beatin'.

   E...

When he first showed up, he said Fairfax, Virginia. In the thread LJ linked to, he claims Springfield, VA. He lies a lot, and has said a lot of different places before.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on December 31, 2005, 07:43 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1591280&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1#1591280

 :o

Does anyone know the story? I've known Rayne for a couple years, and needless to say, I highly doubt his suspension was called for. He's been a great asset to the forums there and is a great guy.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: SilverZ on December 31, 2005, 08:04 PM
Apparently the presence of an annoying child is enough to send the RS mods and the board into a zero-tolerance police state. Suspending their productive users to make an example - typical.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on December 31, 2005, 08:31 PM
Anyone know where that kid is?  I have a lot of connections, maybe I could call in some favors, have someone toss him a beatin'.

   E...

When he first showed up, he said Fairfax, Virginia. In the thread LJ linked to, he claims Springfield, VA. He lies a lot, and has said a lot of different places before.

At least he moved away from my town. I hate that llama******.  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on December 31, 2005, 09:56 PM
He lives in your town? Greenday? Hmm, that's interesting. I'd beat the s**t out of him if he went to my school.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 31, 2005, 11:04 PM
i think it would be pretty nice to urinate on him
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on December 31, 2005, 11:19 PM
Well he said he lives in Fairfax, VA (My town), but he could actually be living in Russia for all we know. And if he did go to my school I'd knock his teeth so far down his throat he'd have to pull down his skirt to chew his food.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on December 31, 2005, 11:32 PM
That was pretty funny there. I had to ponder over it and once I got it I laughed out loud. A little slow on the uptake, I know. Are there any emo kids that look like they have no friends. no life, and enjoy being annoying as hell at your school? I would beat them all, systematically, until you happened upon Greenday. If you didn't, you still beat the crap out of a bunch of emo kids... 8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on December 31, 2005, 11:34 PM
I would beat them all, systematically, until you happened upon Greenday. If you didn't, you still beat the crap out of a bunch of emo kids... 8)

That's a good plan. Either way, I win!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 31, 2005, 11:44 PM
i think its kinda weird that im so dedicated to the idea of urinating on my enemies
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on December 31, 2005, 11:46 PM
........






(No Comment)  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on January 1, 2006, 01:33 AM
I guess GreenDay just enjoys ******* with everyone? If he wanted to stay around, he wouldn't advertise that he was Greenday...

And Rayne getting banned is probably the lowest of all lows. Someone get him over here!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 1, 2006, 02:26 PM
I guess GreenDay just enjoys ******* with everyone? If he wanted to stay around, he wouldn't advertise that he was Greenday...

And Rayne getting banned is probably the lowest of all lows. Someone get him over here!

I've mentioned it to Rayne before (coming here more that is). He said he's a registered member here already, so maybe his suspension will be the straw that broke the camel's back and he'll frequent here more.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on January 1, 2006, 02:45 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1591280&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1#1591280

 :o

Does anyone know the story? I've known Rayne for a couple years, and needless to say, I highly doubt his suspension was called for. He's been a great asset to the forums there and is a great guy.

Rayne is known for swearing a lot and in the Rochester, NY threads has a tendency to slip the word filters and get things in.  Apparently Myatt caught it and suspended him for it.  Curto, who usually mods that board, usually just cuts out stuff like that when he sees it but he didn't get to that one first this time.

Rayne also has a history of calling a spade a spade, and he doesn't have a problem telling people they're stupid when, in fact, they are being stupid.  So, I wouldn't be surprised if someone flagged him in.

Either way, this was posted today: Rayne re-instated. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1592497&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1592497)


   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 1, 2006, 03:15 PM
I've "talked" to him, he'll be back in a couple of weeks!!

Man Green Day is back, this time as Ozzelic!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on January 1, 2006, 03:18 PM
Yeah, Greenday posted in the Custom section, gave out his IM, but I doubt anyone will talk to that loser. I told everyone to ignore him, he'll get tired of it eventually.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 1, 2006, 03:21 PM
I've stayed out of much of the bitch fest for a while but one thing that perplexes me to this day.  Why does any sane adult still put up with all of the kiddy bull****? 

I know the answer why...to keep their low member number

I've also heard that RS member number is directly proportional to member size

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=10
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 1, 2006, 04:06 PM
No one "flagged" DR post that led to his suspension.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 1, 2006, 04:29 PM
Well he's welcome to come over if he wants and join in the fun, I'm sure he knows of most (if not all) the members over here one way or another so it's not like it'd be an alien environment to him, but that's his perogative.  Some people like it there, some here, some elsewhere...  Different strokes for different folks. 

He certainly wasn't a blight on their site though, considering what makes up the majority at Rebelscum these days...

I dunno what he did either.  I know Curto's not generally an unreasonable guy even if Dustin maybe is, but backing up one another on staff is also a big part of being a team...  Not knowing what's what, it's tough to say from our POV what gives.

I find it funny Rayne's the guy who gets slapped though...  WTF were the rules when other members were acting up?  I mean, there's guys openly scalping, there's people openly calling people names, people who instigate trouble routinely...  Hell, one of them we've sat and talked about what a massive tool in this hobby he is right in this very thread, and I think he got suspended once maybe?  He'd have been banned here for his first infraction of scalping that he did with his very first few posts, much less all the trolling...  I can't imagine Rayne did something worse, but you never know.

Sith happens, so if Rayne comes over he's got the clean slate here like everyone else...  Not that he's done anything I've noticed to even require a "clean slate".  Weird though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on January 2, 2006, 12:18 AM
Thanks for the support and the invite guys.  Who knows what the future will bring .....
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 2, 2006, 12:26 AM
hint hint ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 2, 2006, 11:25 AM
Thanks for the support and the invite guys.  Who knows what the future will bring .....

What a world when DR gets a suspention. Welcome aboard here, I think you'll fit in nicely.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on January 2, 2006, 10:13 PM
BTW... Greenie is now using the name rebel_girl and posting at all three sites (including JD)...

what an idiot
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 2, 2006, 10:17 PM
That little guy is persistant I must say.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 2, 2006, 11:17 PM
Thanks for the support and the invite guys.  Who knows what the future will bring .....

Stick around!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 4, 2006, 01:06 AM
BTW... Greenie is now using the name rebel_girl and posting at all three sites (including JD)...

what an idiot

Really?  *gasp!*   ;)  ahem...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on January 4, 2006, 10:46 AM
Guys, Greenday isn't that bad, if you actually talk to him. He does that stuff on purpose just to see how much they talk about him. I was IM'in him last night and he was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 4, 2006, 10:51 AM
Guys, Greenday isn't that bad, if you actually talk to him. He does that stuff on purpose just to see how much they talk about him. I was IM'in him last night and he was pretty cool.

Hence it's ok to be a pain in the ass as long as we talk to him outside of here?

His charachter should reflect on his behavior here, not be a polar opposite.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on January 4, 2006, 10:59 AM
Yeah, I still agree that he's a retard for doing it, it just made me feel better knowing that we don't have someone in America that stupid. You're right about the character thing. He's got some issues.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 4, 2006, 11:35 AM
Guys, Greenday isn't that bad, if you actually talk to him. He does that stuff on purpose just to see how much they talk about him. I was IM'in him last night and he was pretty cool.

When he first appeared, I just thought he was annoying as hell because he kept PMing me every five minutes with questions. Then I found out he was a pathological liar. Now he tries in a sick kind of way to gain respect by emerging every 24 hours on different sites under new names. He also tries to find out as much personal information about CHEWIE and me as he can. He makes threads proclaiming he cuts himself and wears eyeliner.

The kid is a douche bag.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on January 4, 2006, 01:28 PM
Guys, Greenday isn't that bad, if you actually talk to him. He does that stuff on purpose just to see how much they talk about him. I was IM'in him last night and he was pretty cool.

I totally disagree, for I too established contact with him on (L)AIM. His behavior and personality were consistent with what we've seen on this site and others. In other words, despite the transition from from fourm to messenger, he remained an ignorant douche.

Victor Von Doom said:
Quote
He makes threads proclaiming he cuts himself and wears eyeliner.The kid is a douche bag.

Oh absolutely. Not only that, he claims to be a Bi-Sexual...yet throws around a certain 3 letter word that, I'm sure, most Bi-Sexuals would find offensive.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on January 4, 2006, 01:33 PM
All right, everyone, I stand corrected. The kid is a pathological liar, I don't know if he was telling me the truth or not. Forget I said anything.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 4, 2006, 11:54 PM
Yes, don't believe a thing he says!! I was also trying to help him out via PM, trying to calm him down, he just acted dumber and dumber by the post!!! He always claims change and the olive branch, but immediately goes back to his old, true, ways!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2006, 01:12 AM
I know there was some fun had by a few of us with him.  He's just a child, we've barely had trouble with him here considering how we handle the forums, so no big deal guys.  Not worth the conversation about him.  Over "there" he's a problem, but no more so than about 90 other people on similar levels of behavior.
Title: Awww! They're all wearing matching shirts!
Post by: Commander Cody on January 6, 2006, 01:40 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/features/ranchoobiwan_DSC_1493.jpg)

How adorable!
Title: Re: Awww! They're all wearing matching shirts!
Post by: Joe on January 6, 2006, 02:01 PM
who are they??   lol.
Title: Re: Awww! They're all wearing matching shirts!
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 6, 2006, 02:03 PM

How adorable!


So maybe they're proud of the site they work for.  Wouldn't you be proud of something that you put endless hours into?
Title: Re: Awww! They're all wearing matching shirts!
Post by: efranks on January 6, 2006, 03:47 PM
So maybe they're proud of the site they work for.  Wouldn't you be proud of something that you put endless hours into?

I would be.  If it got me an invite to Rancho Obi-Wan I'd be even more proud...it shows that work you're putting into the hobby is appreciated and respected.

All I get is a "Your site sucks" and "Write more headlines!!"   ;)

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on January 6, 2006, 06:05 PM
Quote
So maybe they're proud of the site they work for.  Wouldn't you be proud of something that you put endless hours into?

Exactly.  I know if I got invited to see the biggest Star Wars collection in the world because I worked for the biggest Star Wars collecting site out there....I'd wear the shirt. 

I know no one's inviting me to visit the Skywalker Ranch because of my stupid website.  ;D
Title: Re: Awww! They're all wearing matching shirts!
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on January 6, 2006, 06:08 PM
who are they??   lol.

??? ???
Title: Re: Awww! They're all wearing matching shirts!
Post by: Commander Cody on January 6, 2006, 07:41 PM

How adorable!


So maybe they're proud of the site they work for.  Wouldn't you be proud of something that you put endless hours into?

Not if it was rebelscum! ;)


The shirts are ghey.
Title: Re: Awww! They're all wearing matching shirts!
Post by: BillCable on January 6, 2006, 08:58 PM
I would be.  If it got me an invite to Rancho Obi-Wan I'd be even more proud...it shows that work you're putting into the hobby is appreciated and respected.

All I get is a "Your site sucks" and "Write more headlines!!"   ;)

   E...

You also get the occasional "That's great!" when you actually submit something.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Skyhoucker on January 7, 2006, 12:45 AM
So.... seriously, who the hell are all those people? I want names for faces, people! Front row L to R, Back row L to R!!! ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 7, 2006, 12:56 AM
So.... seriously, who the hell are all those people? I want names for faces, people! Front row L to R, Back row L to R!!! ???

Here. (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/features/ranchoobiwan_DSC_1493.jpg&text=Back%20Row%20(left%20to%20right):%20Jay%20Shepard,%20Chris%20Holoka,%20Dustin%20Roberts,%20Jeremy%20Beckett,%20Dan%20Curto.%20<br>Middle%20Row:%20Dave%20Myatt,%20Anne%20Neumann,%20Shane%20Turgeon,%20Philip%20Wise,%20Maureen%20Kuppe.%20<br>Front%20Row:%20Steve%20Sansweet)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Commander Cody on January 7, 2006, 11:26 AM
Philip lost his teeth already? :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on January 7, 2006, 11:29 AM
Philip lost his teeth already? :D

No way...he's only 28, right?  ;)

John
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 7, 2006, 11:38 AM
Why isn't Steve wearing the shirt? He and Phil are business partners, now, right?

Meh. I think it's great that the staff got to check out Steve's stuff - I'd say for me, personally, it'd be well worth the bull**** of having to work the RS Forums... I suppose its the closest thing to visiting a museum dedicated to our hobby in a field trip with people that you've worked with and collected with for a number of years.

Neat.

I wonder how long before Chris Berry wants us to dress alike at Conventions?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 7, 2006, 11:50 AM

I wonder how long before Chris Berry wants us to dress alike at Conventions?


Yeah, before you know it, some idiot on staff will be ordering T-shirts.  ::)   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 7, 2006, 12:08 PM
Can someone please fix the length of the page!!! >:(

Anyhow, don't tell me you guys wouldn't wear a JD shirt and go to Steve Sansweet's house to help him set up his Star Wars memorabilia museum!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt Carroll on January 7, 2006, 12:10 PM
Heck, if you are all going to be dressing alike, I thought the natural choice would be pink sweaters...  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 7, 2006, 02:12 PM
Yeah, before you know it, some idiot on staff will be ordering T-shirts. ::) ;)

Anyhow, don't tell me you guys wouldn't wear a JD shirt and go to Steve Sansweet's house to help him set up his Star Wars memorabilia museum!!

LJ, I was referring to me.

Heck, if you are all going to be dressing alike, I thought the natural choice would be pink sweaters... ;)

I like it...  :P
Title: Re: Awww! They're all wearing matching shirts!
Post by: efranks on January 7, 2006, 02:51 PM
I would be.  If it got me an invite to Rancho Obi-Wan I'd be even more proud...it shows that work you're putting into the hobby is appreciated and respected.

All I get is a "Your site sucks" and "Write more headlines!!"   ;)

   E...

You also get the occasional "That's great!" when you actually submit something.   ;)

Yeah....but all that writing and creativity?  Blah.

As many complaints as I have about the forums on RS, they do add good things to the hobby with checklists, photos, special features, etc.   Whether you agree with how the forums are run, you have to agree that the guys do some good work over there.

There are other sites that have similar content but RS is pretty comprehensive.  Hate the forums, disagree with some of their policies, but you can't deny the fact that they do add positive things to the hobby.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Skyhoucker on January 7, 2006, 07:02 PM
So.... seriously, who the hell are all those people? I want names for faces, people! Front row L to R, Back row L to R!!! ???

Here. (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/features/ranchoobiwan_DSC_1493.jpg&text=Back%20Row%20(left%20to%20right):%20Jay%20Shepard,%20Chris%20Holoka,%20Dustin%20Roberts,%20Jeremy%20Beckett,%20Dan%20Curto.%20<br>Middle%20Row:%20Dave%20Myatt,%20Anne%20Neumann,%20Shane%20Turgeon,%20Philip%20Wise,%20Maureen%20Kuppe.%20<br>Front%20Row:%20Steve%20Sansweet)

Thanks, Jesse!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 7, 2006, 07:12 PM
Clicky here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1603163&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1603070&Search=true&where=&Name=13679&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1603163)

I've PMed an adminstrator about this guy, as I highly suspect its Greenday. Unfortunately, the administrator told me that since his IP address doesn't match Greenday's (obviously it won't, his IP changes all the time!), and he hasn't admitted who he is, the admin won't do anything about him, saying "he hasn't done anything stupid yet". I guess this thread he made isn't stupid enough.

 ::)

edit - just adjusted your link to fit the page - Jesse
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on January 7, 2006, 07:31 PM
Yeah, I agree with you, Vic... it's GD...


..If if walks like GD and sounds like GD, it's probably GD.

The moron.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 7, 2006, 07:41 PM
He contacted me last night, and not many first day members contact people via PM on their first day, but he does!!! He has the bad spelling down, but he hasn't lost it, from what I've seen!! He's controlling himself if it is him!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 7, 2006, 07:58 PM
Can someone please fix the length of the page!!! >:(

Anyhow, don't tell me you guys wouldn't wear a JD shirt and go to Steve Sansweet's house to help him set up his Star Wars memorabilia museum!!

Hell, I'll wear a "Lady Jaye is swell" t-shirt to see the insides of Rancho Obi-Wan if I had to.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 7, 2006, 08:25 PM
I'd go buck naked if it got me in the door.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 7, 2006, 09:22 PM
Guess what: turns out it was Greenday. He admitted it.  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 7, 2006, 11:43 PM
Where, when, to who???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mikey D on January 8, 2006, 09:38 AM
Who gives a ****?  So some ******bag gets his jollies by posting under numerous aliases, thus pissing people off.  Here's a hint - that's what he wants.  Ignore him and he'll go away.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 8, 2006, 10:46 AM
Who gives a ****?  So some ******bag gets his jollies by posting under numerous aliases, thus pissing people off.  Here's a hint - that's what he wants.  Ignore him and he'll go away.

I wouldn't care that much if it was just that he was annoying (then I could just ignore him), but he tries to find out personal information about both me and CHEWIE, and thats sort of creepy. Granted, I'm not a dumbass and there's nothing he could find out thats not publicly available. He also tries to harass members of my site, and if I can end his fun again by alerting a mod, I'm going to do it.

Trust me, I have ignored him. I've just been PMing the mods lately as opposed to publicly outing him. The problem is that no matter how much you say to people to ignore him, someone is always going to say something. Personally, I'd rather have people outing him right away rather than him staying for a while.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 8, 2006, 04:10 PM
Hey I noticed that Jeremy's name doesn't have his usual red tint, nor does he have the admin rank below his name??? Wonder what happened??
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Commander Cody on January 8, 2006, 04:31 PM
Awww... Poor baby.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: blaster_e11 on January 9, 2006, 10:31 AM
yeah i noticed the same thing in the european section of RS boards

i've been wondering what was about that

still funny to see greenday coming to the boards, his posts may be plain stupid but at lzeast he is doing this on purpose, some newbies are just like him and don't have this excuse
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 9, 2006, 11:58 AM
I hate to dis anybody, but if Jeremy did get releaved of his postition, it could have been due to his, IMO, poor handeling of the Gareth situation. If any of you are familliar with the Gareth situation, the way he handled it, it seemed like he was going out of his way to protect someone who ripped off more than a $3000 worth of SW merchendice from aroung 20 RS forum members. He actually suspended and issued many warnings for talking badly in any way about a guy who blaitantly ripped people off, bought every poor excuse Gareth gave and made it very diffucult for people who got ripped off to find out that they got ripped off.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2006, 07:05 PM
That's new to me, but interesting Anton... 

The way things roll over there though, it's kind of disturbing to do a trade even, and I've been reluctant to act on things I've seen.  I see their bad trader list has skyrocketed in just the last year.  Not much control that I can see.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 07:59 PM
So did all these people ever get their money back from Gareth. This story is news to me as well!! More info is appreciated Anton!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 9, 2006, 08:09 PM
So did all these people ever get their money back from Gareth. This story is news to me as well!! More info is appreciated Anton!!

Must you abuse your punctuation keys with every sentence? It can't be that exciting.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 08:15 PM
Whatever!! Go troll somewhere's else!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2006, 08:32 PM
You tell him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 08:36 PM
What's the diference between using an extra exclamation point or two and always adding your name at the end. It's not like we don't know who in the hell just posted a reply!! ::)

Tell ya what Kevvo, you stop with the name at the end of the reply and I'll use only one punctuation mark?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on January 9, 2006, 08:38 PM
No kidding!! Enough is enough already!! Why do you put our name there?? There is no reason to do that!!

Ryan
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 08:45 PM
To be honest, there isn't. Just like there's no reason to add an extra exclamation point!! It's his style, I don't give him **** about it, why should he really care if I put in an extra exclamation or two?? That's all I'm getting at!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 09:03 PM
Whatever!! Go troll somewhere's else!!

How can you call him a troll? He's a member of over two years here. He makes a simple observation and you get defensive.

Not like he said your name or said the 80's were 10 years of culture crap. Then I could see you calling him a troll.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:06 PM
Mayhap, but to have something so trivial pointed out is like he's looking for a reason to say something against me.  And he's said this before, even if I've never said a thing to him and answer all his PM's politely, just seems petty!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 09:08 PM
Maybe it's time to lay off the egregious punctuation a little bit?  Kevin's certainly not the first to point it out. . .
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 09:14 PM
I think it hits a nerve with people who are perticular with how messages are left on the fourm. Some people get annoyed about poor spelling, grammer, and/or puncuation. Some hate trolls, others dread the "quoter" while others are spiteful towards the flamer.

Everyone has their own criteria about this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:14 PM
Conceivably, however does it really matter that much, honestly?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:15 PM
Everyone has their own criteria about this kind of thing.

Exactly! To each their own, as long as they aren't disruptive, it shouldn't really matter!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 09:21 PM
It just kind of makes you look like a moron, is all.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:25 PM
Well whatever you say Virex. No matter what I do or say you will always have that opinion of me, so why should I even bother to acquiesce to your request?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 09:27 PM
Conceivably, however does it really matter that much, honestly?

It does to people who have expectations and standards when it comes to forum discussion. If you have low to no standards then yeah who cares?



Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2006, 09:29 PM
Not to do a pile-on but I actually have some experience with internet etiquette or "netiquette".  It's actually a real thing developed for academic debate/writing electronically since forums and other E-sources of discussion have become more and more in the spotlight and accepted as credible academic resources.

I know when I was in one of my basic college writing courses things like quoting an entire source instead of specific points was cited as bad netiquette.  Just like typing in all caps is for example.  Also, overuse of punctuation, especially the exclamation mark which is rarely to be used in a literal sense, is bad netiquette.  That's not to say it's annoying to anyone or everyone either, it's not "good form" though and diminishes the quality of the text in which it is written if used improperly.  I believe the proper use of the exclamation is a very rare occurance in most writing.  Such as "Wow!", or some such.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 09:29 PM
Well whatever you say Virex. No matter what I do or say you will always have that opinion of me

That's a good point, Bertha.  But the punctuation certainly isn't helping matters any.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:31 PM
The thing is Alex, that it really doesn't matter in the long run. I mean honestly, does adding an extra punctuation mark, or two, in all reality hurt or really offend anyone here. I mean truthfully does it really? It's a Star Wars forum, it's not a research paper, not a report for work. It's just a place to come by and discuss toys of all things, a place to relax and enjoy yourself. Why can't you just see that, or is the discussion the ultimate goal of all this?

So what do you propose I do then Matt? What's the point if your opinion will never change, not that I care what someone in Oklahoma thinks of me. I mean can you answer that, what would be the point of changing?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 09:33 PM
The thing is Alex, that it really doesn't matter in the long run. I mean honestly, does adding an extra punctuation mark, or two, in all reality hurt or really offend anyone here. I mean truthfully does it really? It's a Star Wars forum, it's not a research paper, not a report for work. It's just a place to come by and discuss toys of all things, a place to relax and enjoy yourself. Why can't you just see that, or is the discussion the ultimate goal of all this?

I don't see any excessive punctuation in this paragraph.  How hard was that for you to do (or not to do, as the case may be)?  I admire your restraint.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:36 PM
But again, Matt you miss the point. Your opinion of me has not changed has it, so why should I continue with my restraint as you put it??
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 09:36 PM
Like I said LJ it isn't anything personal on you. But JJ really did nail it on the head. And when you say it's only SW forum and not a research paper kind of puts down what we discuss here. Why dumb it down? It's out hobby. We can and should have the expectation that in our hobby we want stimulating and lively discussion done in the proper context of good netiquette.

It like McDonald's or Wendy's. People put it down as fast food but when you go there as a customer you expect your hot side to be hot and your cold side to be cold. Same here. Just because it's Star Wars doesn't mean we all of a sudden lose our ability to communicate like normal people.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 09:39 PM

So what do you propose I do then Matt? What's the point if your opinion will never change, not that I care what someone in Oklahoma thinks of me. I mean can you answer that, what would be the point of changing?

And the Democrates said the same thing last election and look what happened. Oklahoma goes Red and Bush rins again. Don't take for granted what Oklahoma thinks.

I'm from NY (life long) and you go to school in NY so does that mena you care about what I say? :D Cool.....

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:40 PM
The thing is, it's not dumbing it down, it's just a form of expression! Nothing more. You taking offense is on you really! And anyone else who finds it offensive! I just find it funny that we are even discussing this.

Oh and that's Democrats!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 09:41 PM
I don't care if my opinion doesn't mean anything to you.  Fine.  That's great.  Doesn't hurt my feelings in the slightest.

But what about the hundreds of other people out there, reading your posts on a regular basis?  You're not bothered by the fact that they're reading your posts, seeing two dozen exclamation points in a five-sentence paragraph about K-Mart, and coming off with the opinion that you're a total buffoon?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:45 PM
Not really, since a lot of members here already have an opinion of me, and no matter what I do it won't change! Like you, you've brought over from rebelscum a pre-conceived notion of me. And even though I'm vastly different that how I was in 2001, you won't ever give me a chance. Guess I should feel sorry for ya for being so set in your ways that you can't see the truth in front of you.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 9, 2006, 09:46 PM
Well....

Here's the Gareth thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB41&Number=1399681&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) in question. The reason why no knows about it is beacuse, dispite the fact that almost all who got taken were in America, Jeremy desided that a thread in the feedback section was not needed and kept only the one thread opened in the Europe section where all the American forum members would natually look.

I could be wrong, but I think Gareth was coddled.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 09:49 PM
Not really, since a lot of members here already have an opinion of me, and no matter what I do it won't change! Like you, you've brought over from rebelscum a pre-conceived notion of me. And even though I'm vastly different that how I was in 2001, you won't ever give me a chance. Guess I should feel sorry for ya for being so set in your ways that you can't see the truth in front of you.

I think if you were to tone down your punctuation (as you've done here--again, was it that hard?), that would go a long way regarding your reputation around the boards.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 09:50 PM
I wasn't taking offensive at what you were posting LJ. I was just making a point. There's a Seinfeld bit about the over use of punctuation. It's very funny.

And thank you for pointing out my spelling error. She is correct it is spelled Democrats.

Must have been thinking of the Western NY spelling of it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on January 9, 2006, 09:51 PM
Not really, since a lot of members here already have an opinion of me, and no matter what I do it won't change! Like you, you've brought over from rebelscum a pre-conceived notion of me.

Actually, I only know you from the forums here, and I must say, when I see one of your posts where you overuse the exclamation point, I tend to automatically discount whatever it is you are saying.  It is terribly distracting and unnecessary.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 09:54 PM
But the thing is Matt, that you and others still have a prejudice against me, and no matter what I do or say, you will find something against me and use it. Tell me, I'm not right? Honestly!

Alex I just wanted to show that it really doesn't matter if you have perfect puntuation or spelling, it shouldn't!! We all, hopefully, come here to relax and unwind! So someone coming in correcting spelling mistakes or a style of ending a sentence is just unwarranted. Like perhaps that was just your way of spelling "wins", and if it was a mistake, who cares, really? That's all I'm saying, live and let live!

"And the Democrates said the same thing last election and look what happened. Oklahoma goes Red and Bush rins again. Don't take for granted what Oklahoma thinks. "
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 09:56 PM
If you have the right to wear out your punctuation keys, just because it's all fun and games, then certainly other people have the right to complain about how annoying it is to them. 

See how that works?  It's all fun and games, right?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on January 9, 2006, 09:58 PM
But the thing is, that you and others still have a prejudice against me, and no matter what I do or say, you will find something against me and use it. Tell me, I'm not right? Honestly!

Honestly, you're not right.  I don't know you from Adam -- just what you brought here yourself is all I know of you.  You're supposed to leave your baggage at the door -- not drag it in here with you.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 10:00 PM
Actually, I only know you from the forums here, and I must say, when I see one of your posts where you overuse the exclamation point, I tend to automatically discount whatever it is you are saying.  It is terribly distracting and unnecessary.

Well so be it then. It's like the guys who put their names down after their reply. It's not really necessary, but a unique style!! And that's ok, even if it is superfluous.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 10:02 PM
I agree with LJ that her reputation out there with many different forum members on at least two boards that I know of has been cemented in place. That place tends to fall of the "craptastic" side of popular opinion.

For all my deep disagreements and heated rheotric I think LJ is a good person. She's an active forum member and sometimes has a good discussion point and/or observation. I may not agree with her 95% of the time, and I think she comes off as mean spirtited and closed minded when she disagrees with others. And her level of sarcasim, misuse of punctuation and  :) ;) :D ;D :( ::) borders on compulsive and annoying  but there is no doubt she likes what she likes. And I respect her for that.

Hopefully the feedback is accepted for what it is and how many of us hope that change is possible for one that is known to so many on the Star Wars boards.


Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 10:03 PM
How the **** is excessive punctuation a "unique style?!"  How about having the unique style of using your brain before you hit the "post" key?  Wouldn't that be a little better way to express your unique style?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on January 9, 2006, 10:04 PM
It's very appropriate that this thread is titled "Rebelscum".  The way people are whining about nonsense in this thread made me think that for just a second, I logged into the wrong Forum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 10:06 PM
Well like I said, to each his own Matt. Why  do you feel you have to get angry, offensive, and rude. You are capable of having a discussion without reverting to name calling, right?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mattdude on January 9, 2006, 10:07 PM
Well....

Here's the Gareth thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB41&Number=1399681&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) in question. The reason why no knows about it is beacuse, dispite the fact that almost all who got taken were in America, Jeremy desided that a thread in the feedback section was not needed and kept only the one thread opened in the Europe section where all the American forum members would natually look.

I could be wrong, but I think Gareth was coddled.

I actually followed that thread from the begninning (or close to it).  It appeared that Gareth was trading items he didn't yet have, weaving a tangled web that eventually came apart on him.  I remember several instances where members suggested he was being coddled, only to be shut down by the moderator, and I believe in once case even threatened with suspension.

-Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 10:08 PM
Well like I said, to each his own Matt. Why  do you feel you have to get angry, offensive, and rude. You are capable of having a discussion without reverting to name calling, right?

That's just my unique style!  That's how I roll!  Deal with it!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 10:09 PM
It's very appropriate that this thread is titled "Rebelscum".  The way people are whining about nonsense in this thread made me think that for just a second, I logged into the wrong Forum.

Thnaks for checking in Rayne. As always there's always room for more crazy. Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 10:09 PM
It is, you're right. Just like using extra punctuation is mine!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on January 9, 2006, 10:13 PM
It's very appropriate that this thread is titled "Rebelscum".  The way people are whining about nonsense in this thread made me think that for just a second, I logged into the wrong Forum.

Thnaks for checking in Rayne. As always there's always room for more crazy. Thanks!

I may be the only level-minded person in this thread.
 ;)
And that's a scary thought.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 10:15 PM
I don't think anyone should be name calling other members anywhere. Disagreeing and making observations is a great use of debate and discussion. But when name calling is used I think it just lowers the whole thing. I may not agree with everything LJ says but I have made it a point to NOT to call  her a nasty name. She's better than that and deserves better than that. We all deserve better than that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 10:17 PM
It is, you're right. Just like using extra punctuation is mine!!

And what a fascinating, interesting, unique style it is.  "Excessive punctuation."

God love you, Bertha.  God love you.

I think I need to take a shower and cool off a little bit.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 10:22 PM
I don't know that I ever really resorted to name-calling.  True, I did use the word "moron," but it was in a little softer context than it could have been (i.e. "it makes you look like a moron" instead of "you're a moron for using too much punctuation").

But frankly, sometimes a spade is just a spade, and all of the extra exclamation points and question marks aren't exactly making her out to be a Pulitzer prize-winning author, either.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 9, 2006, 10:24 PM
It's very appropriate that this thread is titled "Rebelscum".  The way people are whining about nonsense in this thread made me think that for just a second, I logged into the wrong Forum.

Thnaks for checking in Rayne. As always there's always room for more crazy. Thanks!

I may be the only level-minded person in this thread.
 ;)
And that's a scary thought.

You haven't posted anything. It's easy to be level-minded when you are a posting mute. :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on January 9, 2006, 10:26 PM
I prefer to sit back and observe the chaos.  It's rather comical.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2006, 10:36 PM
Hmmmm, no chaos I see.  We've (staff) been watching the shenanigans here, it's not out of hand though, just someone's made a comment on LJ's punctuation and she's replied...  Conversation on it ensued and is seemingly dying off.  Points were made, none will be heeded, and all is right with the world.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 10:38 PM
I agree with Jesse, no chaos at all! It was actually a rather delightful discussion. Some name calling, but otherwise it was what it was!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 10:45 PM
No, no name-calling.  Some slightly-rude verbiage yes, but name-calling no.

All of it justified, however.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on January 9, 2006, 10:48 PM
Eh, just another Virex vs. Lady Jaye discussion, that's all...  I suppose they could just PM eachother, but it appears they'd rather discuss proper punctuation, or lack thereof, in public so everyone can enjoy.

That said, if anyone ever gives me **** for putting "..." everywhere in my posts, I'll kick your ass!!  :P

As for the Gareth situation, I actually kept an eye on all that crap going on in the various threads involving him at RS, and was downright shocked to see someone who was stealing thousands of dollars worth of Star Wars collectibles get completely protected by a staff member (Jeremy) there, to the point where any who said **** to or about Gareth was immediately reprimanded, while Gareth just continued stealing more and more from the RS members.  Talk about bizarre.

But considering some of the preferential/protective treatment that some of the more notorious trolls at RS have received over the past couple of years, I'm not really all that surprised, I guess.  Same ol', same ol'...

Now hopefully we can try to let the lame punctuation discussion die down here, since nothing new is being said at this point.  Pretty please?  :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 10:49 PM
Oh, and before I forget, what the **** hell heck does my being from Oklahoma have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 10:56 PM
That said, if anyone ever gives me **** for putting "..." everywhere in my posts, I'll kick your ass!!  :P

And well they shouldn't!! It's just your style.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 9, 2006, 11:09 PM
What's the diference between using an extra exclamation point or two and always adding your name at the end. It's not like we don't know who in the hell just posted a reply!! ::)

Tell ya what Kevvo, you stop with the name at the end of the reply and I'll use only one punctuation mark?

I know I'm about 4 pages late but I'd like to add that I think this is a fair trade.  It's a win-win situation for everyone.   I'll just be waiting for Kevin to okay the deal and then we'll move on from there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2006, 11:09 PM
Oh, and before I forget, what the **** hell heck does my being from Oklahoma have to do with anything?
Duh!!

(http://snoot.org/i/wuss/hanson.jpg)

(I. Hanson/T. Hanson/Z. Hanson)

Oh, Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, yeah.
You have so many relationships in this life,
Only one or two will last.
You go through all the pain and strife,
Then you're turnin' your back and they're gone so fast.

Oh yeah. And they're gone so fast, yeah.

Oh, so hold on to the ones that really care,
In the end they'll be the only ones there.
When you get old and start losing your hair,
Can you tell me who will still care?
Can you tell me who will still care? Oh care.

Chorus:

MMMBop...bidi dapa doo wop
Doo bi dapa doo bop
Bidi dapa doo, yeah, yeah
MMMBop...bidi dapa doo wop
Doo bi dapa doo bop
Bidi dapa doo, yeah, yeah

Said oh yeah, in an MMMBop they're gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Plant a seed, plant a flower,plant a rose
You can plant any one of those
Keep planting to find out which one grows.
It's a secret no one knows.
It's a secret no one knows.
Oh, knows, no one knows.

(Chorus...)

In an MMMBop they're gone
In an MMMBop they're not there
In an MMMBop they're gone
In an MMMBop they're not there
Until you lose your hair
ohh, but you don't care, oh yeah.

(Chorus...)

Can you tell me?
Ohh, no you can't 'cause you don't know.
Can you tell me?
Oh yeah, you say you can but you don't know.
Can you tell me? (Which flower's gonna grow)
Ohh, no you can't 'cause you don't know.
Can you tell me? (It's gonna be, it's easy, ohh)
You say you can but you don't know.
Can you tell me? (Which flower's gonna grow)
Ohh, no you can't 'cause you don't know.
Can you tell me?
You say you can but you don't know.
Say you can but you know.
You don't know ohh.
Don't know ohhh.

MMMBop.......Doo wop........Doo bop.......Doo.......yeah, yeah
MMMBop..woah, yeah, yeah...Doo wop......Doo bop........Doo........woah, yeah

(Chorus...)(2x)

Can you tell me?
Ohh, no you can't 'cause you don't know.
Can you tell me?
Oh yeah, you say you can but you don't know.
Say you can but you don't know..........No.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2006, 11:10 PM
And it's not improper either as using "!" or "!!" (etc.) is...  It's not bad "netiquette" as I pointed out earlier.

Of course there's plenty of relaxed banter here, but I think what the Cos is saying is that "style" and routinely using an exclamation as your punctuation are two different things.  It's not wrong to put "..." at the end of a sentence if you're carrying on a thought or whatnot, whereas there's never a proper time to use two !'s, and even using 1 ! is a rare occurance in writing.  It is like yelling by typing in all capital letters emphasizes the post.

You can use it to emphasize a word, but some use it to emphasize an entire post, and it comes through as yelling...  Ending every sentence with "!!!" isn't too much different and I suppose it can be annoying to some, distracting to others, and I'm sure others will not look at it with much respect...  Does that matter?  Well, it depends who is being told I guess...  If it didn't, would we have this conversation with so many replies though?

I think people aren't saying it's a big deal so much as they're saying it shows a lack of posting class maybe...  I don't think there were names being called either, just honest opinions about the subject at hand...  For instance Bill Cosby didn't call anyone a buffoon, he just said that the !'s make LJ look like one...  I maybe missed the "fighting" though, I dunno, I've lost track honestly, but this wasn't anything bad to read through I thought.  Weird...  but not bad.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 11:18 PM
Duh!!

(http://snoot.org/i/wuss/hanson.jpg)

(I. Hanson/T. Hanson/Z. Hanson)

Oh, Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, yeah.
You have so many relationships in this life,
Only one or two will last.
You go through all the pain and strife,
Then you're turnin' your back and they're gone so fast.

Oh yeah. And they're gone so fast, yeah.

Oh, so hold on to the ones that really care,
In the end they'll be the only ones there.
When you get old and start losing your hair,
Can you tell me who will still care?
Can you tell me who will still care? Oh care.

Chorus:

MMMBop...bidi dapa doo wop
Doo bi dapa doo bop
Bidi dapa doo, yeah, yeah
MMMBop...bidi dapa doo wop
Doo bi dapa doo bop
Bidi dapa doo, yeah, yeah

Said oh yeah, in an MMMBop they're gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Plant a seed, plant a flower,plant a rose
You can plant any one of those
Keep planting to find out which one grows.
It's a secret no one knows.
It's a secret no one knows.
Oh, knows, no one knows.

(Chorus...)

In an MMMBop they're gone
In an MMMBop they're not there
In an MMMBop they're gone
In an MMMBop they're not there
Until you lose your hair
ohh, but you don't care, oh yeah.

(Chorus...)

Can you tell me?
Ohh, no you can't 'cause you don't know.
Can you tell me?
Oh yeah, you say you can but you don't know.
Can you tell me? (Which flower's gonna grow)
Ohh, no you can't 'cause you don't know.
Can you tell me? (It's gonna be, it's easy, ohh)
You say you can but you don't know.
Can you tell me? (Which flower's gonna grow)
Ohh, no you can't 'cause you don't know.
Can you tell me?
You say you can but you don't know.
Say you can but you know.
You don't know ohh.
Don't know ohhh.

MMMBop.......Doo wop........Doo bop.......Doo.......yeah, yeah
MMMBop..woah, yeah, yeah...Doo wop......Doo bop........Doo........woah, yeah

(Chorus...)(2x)

Can you tell me?
Ohh, no you can't 'cause you don't know.
Can you tell me?
Oh yeah, you say you can but you don't know.
Say you can but you don't know..........No.

This is sick.  And not in the "yo, dawg, did you see that dunk by T-Mac? That was sick!" kind of way, but in the "Scott is a disturbed, sick individual who needs professional treatment" kind of way.

And that, Ladies and gentlemen, was my first use of name-calling in this thread.  And very warranted name-calling, at that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2006, 11:19 PM
You know what I was just thinking.  This would be a perfect time for someone to do a "You're the Man Now Dog" site for ole Greggers

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on January 9, 2006, 11:23 PM
That is hard on my eyes!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 11:25 PM
You know, I was thinking earlier, it might be nice if Greggers were to be Photo-shopped into the Rebelscum Staff Photo featured here several pages back. 

It just doesn't seem right, for everybody else to get to visit Sansweet's Star Wars Museum/House of Ill Repute and Greggers to be stuck in Oz. . .
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 9, 2006, 11:27 PM
I'll work something up tomorrow that should be able to pass as a legit photograph.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2006, 11:30 PM
How about this?

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/gregg4.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 11:34 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/V_Gregg.jpg)

 :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 9, 2006, 11:38 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/V_Gregg.jpg)

 :o



Whoever made that is awesome.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2006, 11:39 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/puppet2.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 9, 2006, 11:41 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 9, 2006, 11:45 PM
Hysterical.

Absolutely and completely hysterical.

Let me explain why I question your use of punctuation in excess:

First, you are a college student, and as such should probably be in the habit of using proper punctuation when you type, given the amount of papers you do. Second, when you "!!" in a PM, that's to one person, and not in the open where people may read your posts (and inevitably, it seems, that they do) and it detracts from their opinion of you.

Plus, you use the exclamation key in most cases, at the wrong time.

How you dragged poor V into this, I'll never know, or what Oklahoma has to do with it.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 9, 2006, 11:48 PM
The guy on the right REALLY ought to have Philip's head though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2006, 11:50 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/puppet2.jpg)
This guy???  Yeah, that'd be funny!!!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 9, 2006, 11:51 PM
Of all the times not to have a wacom tablet handy...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 9, 2006, 11:54 PM
Well Famine I'll end it with this: in all reality it shouldn't matter! There are plenty of more things that are of importance, and correct use of punctuation on a message board is not one of them. If people are "disctracted" and "put off" by the extra punctuation, so be it!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 9, 2006, 11:54 PM
(http://www.yesprep.org/Photo_Album/Class_of_2002/Bertha.jpg)

!!

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 9, 2006, 11:55 PM
Careful, when you go ahead and do things like posting that image that you know certain people don't like, you open yourself up to Kevbo all over again.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2006, 11:56 PM
How you dragged poor V into this, I'll never know, or what Oklahoma has to do with it.

No, no, no, Kevbo.  I take full responsibility for the way the discussion unfolded this evening.  In fact, I'll admit that I wanted to stir up some **** a little tonight.  Bertha's punctuation has been getting on my last nerve, and since it was already the topic at the time, I took full advantage to get it off my chest a little.  Will it work?  More than likely not, but I do feel a little better for it.  So don't blame Bertha for me being involved.  That was all my doing.

However, I still don't see how my home state should come into play. 

Are we to the point of writing some people off, and validating others, simply based on where they're from?  Is that how low it's gotten?

If that's the way it's gonna be, I call dibs on automatically discounting anything that someone from Idaho says. 

******' Idahoans.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2006, 11:58 PM
Famous Idahoans
Joe Albertson grocery chain founder
T. H. Bell educator
Gutzon Borglum Mt. Rushmore sculptor, Bear Lake
Carol R. Brink author
Frank F. Church senator
Fred Dubois senator
Vardis Fisher author, Annis
Harmon Killebrew baseball player, Payette
Ezra Pound poet, Hailey
J. R. Simplot industrialist
Robert E. Smylie political leader
Henry Spalding missionary, Lapwai Valley
Frank Steunenberg governor
Picabo Street skier, Triumph
Lana Turner actress, Wallace
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on January 9, 2006, 11:59 PM
Everyone has their own criteria about this kind of thing.

Exactly! To each their own, as long as they aren't disruptive, it shouldn't really matter!

It is extremely disruptive and I find it tremendously annoying.

Just think before you type. Pretty please, with sugar on top.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 10, 2006, 12:00 AM
I'm not the initial poster of the image, so I'm not bothered. JoshEEE was the poster of that image here, if I'm not mistaken.

And I doubt Greg(g) is a fan of having his pic posted all over, anyway.

Kevbo, Kevvo, Kevo, I've heard it all these days.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2006, 12:01 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/puppet2.jpg)
This guy???  Yeah, that'd be funny!!!!!

Yeah Scott, sorry...  My post got bumped down but I should've quoted that for clarity.

And a point of note about improper use of punctuation...  I wouldn't say it's ALWAYS an issue where you can just say "So what?  It shouldn't bother anyone".  We've made it a point to tell people in the past to shape it up with their spelling and/or grammar or to take it to sites where it's NOT a big deal.  Not to say using two !!'s constantly is going to get our dander up with the staff here, but I'm just wanting it to be clearly stated that contrary to that belief, we do take spelling and grammar seriously here since it just is more mature...  We're not perfectionists though, but we have had to warn and I believe take action with a number of people in the past who just simply wouldn't conform to that standard...   It was generally excessive to the point that it was really just like reading gibberish though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 12:01 AM
Well since Kevin  is still wanting to "have fun" Let's see where the pic comes from shall we.

http://www.yesprep.org/Photo_Album/Class_of_2002/SeniorsSeniorsSeniors.html

A 17 year old in 2002. Yea, that must be me! ::) I got to see Empire Strikes Back even before I was born. Wow that is a feat in itself!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 12:03 AM
And Chris if you want to ban me for using extra punctuation, so be it!! I can't stop you, it's your site, and your perogative.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 12:03 AM
I'm not the initial poster of the image, so I'm not bothered. JoshEEE was the poster of that image here, if I'm not mistaken.

And I doubt Greg(g) is a fan of having his pic posted all over, anyway.

Kevbo, Kevvo, Kevo, I've heard it all these days.

Kevin

Yeah, but I don't care if Gregg doesn't like it.  He can't run in here and start calling me Robvo.  Regardless of where the image originally came from, you posted it now.

I could care less, but don't try to act like you weren't responsible for your post.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:06 AM
Oh, let's not get into this tired old "that's not me in the picture!" argument again. 

We all know it's you, and there's no proof that it's not.

(Of course, this opens up the whole "it's impossible to prove something doesn't exist" debate, which is a whole nother can of worms in and of itself, and this isn't the appropriate time or place.)

But, let's get real.  It's you.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on January 10, 2006, 12:06 AM
And Chris if you want to ban me for using extra punctuation, so be it!! I can't stop you, it's your site, and your perogative.

I don't want to ban you, just don't be so annoying!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!

Otherwise, I might have to reconsider my "perogative".
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 10, 2006, 12:07 AM
How many Bertha Saldana are there in Texas? If there's a clone army of them waiting to take over all the forums I may have to ask old Bail to drop me off at Dagobah to ride this one out....


Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 12:08 AM
Oh, let's not get into this tired old "that's not me in the picture!" argument again. 

We all know it's you, and there's no proof that it's not.

(Of course, this opens up the whole "it's impossible to prove something doesn't exist" debate, which is a whole nother can of worms in and of itself, and this isn't the appropriate time or place.)

But, let's get real.  It's you.

And if it isn't her (even though we know it is) there's a real easy way to prove that it isn't.  Just write 'Jedi Defender Rulez #1' on a sheet of paper, hold it up, take a picture, and post it.

And we'll never see that image again.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 10, 2006, 12:09 AM
Yeah, but I don't care if Gregg doesn't like it.  He can't run in here and start calling me Robvo.  Regardless of where the image originally came from, you posted it now.
I could care less, but don't try to act like you weren't responsible for your post.  

Oh, no doubt Rob, I'm not trying to place blame, for somthing blameless.

I posted that image this time.

I just wanted to make things perfectly clear. (http://www.yoururl.comhttp://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5808.msg88434#msg88434)}

-Kevbo
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 12:11 AM
Yeah, but I don't care if Gregg doesn't like it.  He can't run in here and start calling me Robvo.  Regardless of where the image originally came from, you posted it now.
I could care less, but don't try to act like you weren't responsible for your post.  

Oh, no doubt Rob, I'm not trying to place blame, for somthing blameless.

I posted that image this time.

I just wanted to make things perfectly clear. (http://www.yoururl.comhttp://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=5808.msg88434#msg88434)}

-Kevbo


Just for good measure:


(http://www.yesprep.org/Photo_Album/Class_of_2002/Bertha.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 10, 2006, 12:12 AM
And Chris if you want to ban me for using extra punctuation, so be it!! I can't stop you, it's your site, and your perogative.

No respect for other forum members or even the owner of the site. Does common sense or decency escape you everytime or are you trying to get thrown out so you can have a "war story" to tout in future posts at other sites? I fail to understand how this will improve your situation.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 12:15 AM
She doesn't really have a situation.  She just overuses the !!!!!!!!!!!!!'s. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 12:16 AM
Well believe what you want! I  say it's not me, whether you believe me or not it's up to you!! She is/was located in Texas, but wrong city. Born and raised in Austin, and that's all you'll get!! 8)

And Chris, yea that is annoying, but two or three, come on.

Alex, how was that disrespectful? I just said, he can do what he pleases.  I think you just went a bit overboard!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2006, 12:18 AM
Chris didn't threaten to ban you for using your punctuation Lady Jaye, as I noted in my post (BTW Chris didn't even make the point, I did, so addressing Chris as threatening to ban you for your grammar seems a tad irrational when his name wasn't brought up).  The point I made though is that we do hold a higher standard of quality here...  We don't want the posts of our members to be so poorly structured that they don't make sense, that they add confusion to our boards...  Grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc., are what we are addressing so making light of how punctuation goes as "no big deal" around here isn't true...  I'm correcting that is all.

It isn't a HUGE deal, but it isn't something we take lightly either and have taken action on people in the past.  It wasn't for using excessive exclamation points, but it still is something we watch around here.  When there's a problem with excessive exclamation points we're certain a notice will be posted to limit them or cut it out and post properly.

"Style" isn't important here, but our members posting in a respectful and respectable manner is important though, and that's where we've taken action in the past when people felt that their spelling and grammar just weren't important because "it's just a toy forum".  It's also a place where you are still putting yourself out there in public and people form opinions on you based on how you present yourself.  This includes how you talk to others, how you present your additions to a conversation...  It's more important than people give it credit I believe, as like I said there is a greater focus on E-Communications as a legitimate contribution to knowledge, academia, etc.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 10, 2006, 12:21 AM
I don't see what the film Overboard has to do with any of this LJ? I like to talk movie like the rest of you but there's a time and place for everything.

(http://www.impawards.com/1987/posters/overboard.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:22 AM
Is your keyboard defective?  Are your "shift" and "1" keys stuck somehow?  Because I could have sworn, a couple pages back, that you made a couple of fairly coherent posts that didn't look like the Punctuation Monster puked all over them.  But now the punctuation starts back up again. 

I don't get it.  Clearly this is something that you're conscious of, and that you're doing on purpose, but yet you have to know how annoying and irritating it is to people.  Is that a desirable trait?  Do you think it makes people think more of you, that it's cute, somehow?

Because if it were me, and several people had commented that something I did was annoying them, I think I would probably rethink that behavior at some point.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 10, 2006, 12:22 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/optimus.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 10, 2006, 12:23 AM
Put it this way - how you say something is as important as what you say.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 12:24 AM
And so respect is a big deal correct? So what do you say members using other's name, even though they have requested it not be used? Is that disrespectful or does that rule only apply to some?

Virex, contrary to what you have said, you would never rethink your behavior. Like your title states, and like you said to me, you don't care. So tell me, why should I?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:27 AM
I don't see what the film Overboard has to do with any of this LJ? I like to talk movie like the rest of you but there's a time and place for everything.

(http://www.impawards.com/1987/posters/overboard.jpg)

That movie poster image didn't work, so how about this one?

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/originalposters/clueless.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 10, 2006, 12:28 AM
I tried to have a discusion with her via pm's regarding all this and there is very little point in trying to help her understand the groups p.o.v. I attempted to extend out an olive branch, give her some constructive feedback and suggestions. But like some politcians she doesn't want to take any responsibility or ownership of anything. Instead the response is to continue to do the same thing over and over again but to pepper the action with personal attacks and  totally blaming everyone else for their faults but not admiting any of her own.

You know if she just said, "You know you may have a point and I'll be more mindful about the use of !!!!! in my future posts." most of us would have been happy with that. Instead it's spun as we're all the crazy little people.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:32 AM
Virex, contrary to what you have said, you would never rethink your behavior. Like your title states, and like you said to me, you don't care. So tell me, why should I?

Why should you care about what?  My opinion of you?  You shouldn't.  Star Wars message-boardom as a whole?  Well, I certainly can't tell you what to do.  It's obvious that you don't care too much, because dozens of people have complained about it, and nothing changes. 

If it were me, I don't know that "annoying idiot" would be the image I'd want to convey to the world wide web.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:34 AM
And I think I just realized that this is the same song and dance as the whole "quote-Hitler-in-my-sig" thing, only a different verse.

She's getting off (ooh. . .   :-[ ) on this whole **** storm she's caused.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 10, 2006, 12:34 AM
Well....

Here's the Gareth thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB41&Number=1399681&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) in question. The reason why no knows about it is beacuse, dispite the fact that almost all who got taken were in America, Jeremy desided that a thread in the feedback section was not needed and kept only the one thread opened in the Europe section where all the American forum members would natually look.

I could be wrong, but I think Gareth was coddled.

I actually followed that thread from the begninning (or close to it).  It appeared that Gareth was trading items he didn't yet have, weaving a tangled web that eventually came apart on him.  I remember several instances where members suggested he was being coddled, only to be shut down by the moderator, and I believe in once case even threatened with suspension.

-Matt

(Sorry if this post has become OT)

I find that whole situation odd as well. Its obvious that Gareth was trying to scam people, got caught, and made up some half ass "pity me" story.   ::)

Whats weird though is that Jeremy protected him so much. I mean in all honesty, there have been threads with 100x worse flaming at Rebelscum that have stayed open and not a word was said by a staff member. The people involved were pissed because he was scamming them, and they have every right to be. I don't think that the "flaming" that was going on was even that bad, let alone unwarranted. I don't think that bannings or suspensions needed to be used at all.   :P

I understand that the staff want to be non-biased and try to be fair to everyone, but there is a line. Halfway through the thread it turned from Jeremy being balanced to defending Gareth. I equate this to the people who protest that a convicted serial killer is not being treated humanely enough (or like Saddam in the news recently at his trial and how he bitches about everything). Did they treat their victims humanely? No. So they shouldn't be treated humanely. (Its a bit of a morbid metaphor, but you get the jist of what I'm trying to say).

While Gareth hasn't technically flat out admitted he is scamming, or been "convicted", even if he is telling the truth he still messed up in a lot of ways.

I don't know if banning Gareth was such a good idea either...now the only way people can reach him is via email (which he doesn't seem to reply to), and I'm guessing that since a lot of the information he has about the people he's dealing with (their addresses, the transactions, etc.) are probably from PMs, if he was wanting to send them their packages but didn't have their information saved they would be screwed.

Good luck if any of you are involved with this.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 12:38 AM
Alex if I had done something truly wrong, I would own up to it. But come on, extra punctuation that's what you want me to own up to!! I've never denied it.

And Virex, whatever. If you want to claim the high road, even though you have been name calling all night. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on January 10, 2006, 12:42 AM
Alex if I had done something truly wrong, I would own up to it. But come on, extra punctuation that's what you want me to own up to!! I've never denied it.

And Virex, whatever. If you want to claim the high road, even though you have been name calling all night. ::)

I still have yet to see his so called name calling!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:43 AM
When did I ever claim to taking the high road?  Honey, I'm so far down on the low road that I can't even see the high road from here.

So yeah, I might resort to name-calling every once in a while.  I'm not smart enough not to.  If you want pleasantry and civility in your discourse, well, I'm the wrong guy.  Thank God we've got Jesse James for that.  I'm just sick of your ****, is all, and you know, sometimes, when someone's being a dumbass, the most effective way to let them know they're being a dumbass is just to call them a dumbass.  It may be crude, it may be rude, but at least it gets the point across efficiently.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 12:44 AM
As long as we're on the same page here Virex!  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:49 AM
We're not on the same page, Bertha, or in the same chapter, or even in the same book.  We're about as far apart on the Dewey Decimal System as can be.  And I'd prefer to keep it that way.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 12:49 AM
Whatever you say Birchall!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:52 AM
That's the most intelligent thing you've said all evening.

I realize that's not saying a whole hell of a lot.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 10, 2006, 12:52 AM
Alex if I had done something truly wrong, I would own up to it. But come on, extra punctuation that's what you want me to own up to!! I've never denied it.


I think the scope of the discusion has expanded beyond the narrow parameters of punctuation.

You don't own up to anything. . It's never you it always someone else who at fault:
It's Greenday, it's Bill Cosby, It's CaptainAlex, It's the Roswell Aliens, It's Cobra Commander, It's the Economy, etc.....

I think people are looking for a signal from you that you get it. The only signal I see around here, like at the other place, is that nobody is agreeing with you. Nobody.

That's your m.o. Little insight on why people at times take exception to what or how you post.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on January 10, 2006, 12:53 AM
For the love of God...

STOP THE PUNCTUATION DISCUSSION!!!

Nobody really gives a flying ****.  Take this pissing match to PMs.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 12:54 AM
Okay, I asked you via PM to tell me what you want me to apologize for. You reply that you don't want to bring up old stuff, what's in the past is the past. So which is it? What do you Captain Alex want me to own up to?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 12:58 AM
For the love of God...

STOP THE PUNCTUATION DISCUSSION!!!

Nobody really gives a flying ****.  Take this pissing match to PMs.

Is this a "mine is bigger than yours pissing contest between members"?

I think it is.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ben on January 10, 2006, 12:59 AM
Screw it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 10, 2006, 01:00 AM
Own up to the moment at hand.

In terms you may understand from pop culture you hold so dear:

"Do you smell what the Rock is cooking?"
"Knowing is Half the Battle"
"There is no try"
"Up,Up,Down,Down,Left, Right, Left , Right,A,B,A,B Start"
"We're going back to the future!"
 :D

*Sigh* I think I'm just giving up. There is no getting through to you. You have ears yet you don't hear and you have eyes yet you can't see. Night all it has been interesting yet damning discourse tonight.

Couldn't you attempt to join the rest of us?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 10, 2006, 01:01 AM
I think the only reason you won't stop doing the stupid !! thing is because you dislike the people who have called you out for it, and suggest you drop it. Do you think by continuing the !! thing, people you dislike are somehow hurt? You're out-witted, and so you do this !! thing? I'm not buying the "its my style!!" thing, I think it's bull****.

In reality, people think it's stupid, even outsiders to your "background" who have no other reason to dislike you...

To be honest... I, for one, was very disapointed in you once you settled in here. I was happy that you joined us at JD, and I'm very happy that you've become a regular here...  But you've let me (and several other people) down, as I was hoping that you'd drop the "!! Style", go by your first name, and generally just be personal with us... I thought perhaps you'd take this chance to work with a clean slate, but instead you held up to your bull****.

Oh well... I feel sorry for you that you can't allow yourself to become "one of the guys" here... Despite how badly people may enjoy irritating you, I think they'd all embrace you if you were to make an effort to be real with us. Instead, you've basically isolated yourself from a very cool community...

You remind me of Greg(g), and that's sad.



Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 10, 2006, 01:10 AM
No, I don't think that's the reason. I mean I do it over at your most hated of enemy sites too!! Hell I do it any site I go to. Sure others have said the same thing, but at no other site have I been one against an entire site!! ;D And I don't come in here to look for a fight, but I am also not one to just let people say things just because. Sorry, I don't back down. But you have to admit, it has been, on my part, a respectful discussion. Sure there have been a lil breakdowns in the coversation, but it was going well.

As far as you being dissapointed in me, sorry to hear that. I truly am. But it takes time to open up, and with me getting slammed left and right for such things as punctuation, you should be able to see why I am hesistant to open up.

But I guess the damage is beyond repair.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on January 10, 2006, 01:29 AM
As far as you being dissapointed in me, sorry to hear that. I truly am. But it takes time to open up, and with me getting slammed left and right for such things as punctuation, you should be able to see why I am hesistant to open up.

But I guess the damage is beyond repair.

I find it odd that you've been a member here for 2 years, you've been on RS.com for, what, 5?  And nobody seems to know your name.  "Bertha" keeps getting thrown around but unless I missed something, you never confirmed that was your real name.  If you can't even let someone know what your real name is you're intentionally keeping yourself on the "outside" of the community...and outsiders are easier targets.

I probably don't know the real names of half the people on here, or RS.com, but it's not because I never looked, it's because I don't care.   ;)  But I never hide my name, it's always been in my signature or next to my avatar.  I just use "efranks" for all my userids because it keeps it easier to remember at login time. 

I've made my fair share of bad grammar and punctuation posts and I always end them with "E..." which is my style.  Is it redundant to post a name or whatever?  Maybe, but signing a post is much different than purposely mangling said post.  Maybe me signing is annoying but I haven't heard from anyone on it...and I probably wouldn't care if it was annoying anyway.  I'm kind of a sarcastic *******, in case you haven't noticed, but I still at least try to fit into the community where I'm being an *******.  I don't try to hide behind screen names and smokescreens.

Anyway, my point, I think some of the crap is brought about by your own actions and your continued effort to stay outside the community.

   E...  (because that's how I[/i] roll!)


Heh, edit for spelling and grammar...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 01:31 AM
Bertha Saldana is her real name.  She doesn't dispute that as far as I know.  She just says that the Bertha Saldana in that image isn't her.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 01:37 AM
But she still doesn't like being referred to as Bertha, preferring the much less-silly and more-sophisticated "Lady Jaye."

I was like that once.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2006, 02:02 AM
BTW I don't believe I've seen insults being thrown by either side so far...  At least, nobody's been worse than the other.  So I don't really see a need for one of us to step in...  I'll address the PM('s) I've gotten directly in a moment.

There is a level of civility here everyone should be proud of I think, it has been fun to watch.  It made for an interesting conversation...

At this point though I'm just assuming LJ isn't going to use proper punctuation, I'm sure nobody's going to give a **** tomorrow, so it's all a moot point.  Still, people got it off their chest that they don't look highly on people adding "style" via the "1+shift key" method.  Nothing wrong with getting your thoughts on that known but LJ's said why she does...  she posts legibly so that's a plus.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 02:10 AM
I like to think that I've been a little insulting tonight, and come to think of it, I would appreciate some goddamn recognition for it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2006, 02:16 AM
Oh all insults on both sides have been duly noted and recognized, rest assured.  It was a fun time really.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 12:25 PM
I'll work something up tomorrow that should be able to pass as a legit photograph.

-cough-


(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/features/ranchoobiwan_DSC_1493.jpg)

Let's make this happen.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 10, 2006, 12:41 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/features/ranchoobiwan_DSC_1493.jpg)

I didn't even think that Anne lady still was a staff member at Scum...while she may be working behind the scenes, she only has 13 posts and hasn't made a post since February of last year. She says she's in charge of the Wedge collection engine, but it hasn't been updated since the beginning of ROTS. Not trying to bash her or anything in the slightest bit, just wondering what she does for Rebelscum since apparently she was prominent enough to get an invite.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dresden on January 10, 2006, 01:18 PM
She works for Official Pix and handles a lot of that. She handled all the volunteer stuff for C3 too.

Nice lady.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 10, 2006, 01:21 PM
She works for Official Pix and handles a lot of that. She handled all the volunteer stuff for C3 too.

Nice lady.


Aahhh....I see. I was just wondering where she was, since I haven't seen her around in a long, long time.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 03:05 PM
I'll work something up tomorrow that should be able to pass as a legit photograph.

-cough-


I already started, I'll have something soon. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 03:14 PM
I'm sorry.  It's just that I'm an impatient bastard, and I've really been needing a new desktop for my monitor.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 03:16 PM
No sweat.  Should just his head go on someone else's body?  If so, who's?

Or am I looking for a way to get his entire torso in his school uniform in there?  This would be tougher given that freaky science project / kalidescope thing he has over there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 03:22 PM
There's a nice little gap behind Philip which might be a good place for Gregg's head to go.

Other than that, yeah, it's either just swapping his melon with someone else's, or putting his whole body in there next to Sansweet somewhere.

And is it just me, or does Myatt look a whole hell of a lot like Dave Coulier (RIP)?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mikey D on January 10, 2006, 03:23 PM


And is it just me, or does Myatt look a whole hell of a lot like Dave Coulier (RIP)?

I was thinking the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 03:29 PM
I'm not sure who's head I replaced, but my reasoning was just location in the image and the size of her head meant no painting required.

Here's my first pass:

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 10, 2006, 03:31 PM
I didn't make him light enough yet, and the image quality on the Gregg Jpeg isn't as high as the main image, so he probably will never look perfect, but I'll probably tinker a little more when I have a few minutes.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2006, 03:34 PM
I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something that just--I don't know--feels completely right and natural about having Gregger's head on a woman's body.

Nice work.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on January 10, 2006, 04:19 PM
Anne is Phillip's sig other... so replacing her head w/ Gregg's... REALLY scary stuff there...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: SilverZ on January 10, 2006, 04:38 PM
I think you've made his head too small though.  ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on January 10, 2006, 05:00 PM
Looks like I missed quite the exciting evening yesterday.
Always a shame when that happens.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: IndianaVader on January 10, 2006, 05:10 PM
No, it's too big.  Unless you were joking.  BTW, can anyone name all of those people from left to right?  Are they  all from Rebelscum?

As for handles and such, I think it's respectable to use your real name.  Because I don't want to be known as IndianaVader if I was seen in real life.  That's why add "_Max" at the end of my posts.  And I don't mind posting a picture of myself here or Rebelscum for that matter.  I say we all should know what we all look like so we can talk to eachother like real people, so when we're at local Walmarts or Star Wars conventions we can say "Hey, aren't you Bertha from Rebelscum?" followed by a "Hell yeah!  You must have seen my picture?"  and then a "Yeah, that how I know you, and now we can reminice on old times and talk Star Wars!"

(http://p5.xanga.com/5f/5d/5f5d61e10dec2c174ef78371f38621738757035.jpg)

_Max (Yeah, baby...)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 10, 2006, 05:14 PM
BTW, can anyone name all of those people from left to right?  Are they  all from Rebelscum?



Here. (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/features/ranchoobiwan_DSC_1493.jpg&text=Back%20Row%20(left%20to%20right):%20Jay%20Shepard,%20Chris%20Holoka,%20Dustin%20Roberts,%20Jeremy%20Beckett,%20Dan%20Curto.%20<br>Middle%20Row:%20Dave%20Myatt,%20Anne%20Neumann,%20Shane%20Turgeon,%20Philip%20Wise,%20Maureen%20Kuppe.%20<br>Front%20Row:%20Steve%20Sansweet)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 10, 2006, 05:54 PM
As for handles and such, I think it's respectable to use your real name.  Because I don't want to be known as IndianaVader if I was seen in real life. 
eachother
"Yeah, that how I know you

I really could care less if that person posts !!'s or someone signs off with his name every post of their life- doesn't bother me. What gets on my nerves? Spelling and grammar. Not saying I'm perfect in the least because I blow it too. There's just something that tells me people don't care about what they're saying if they don't take the time to edit their posts. If they don't care about what they say then why should I(read it)? I'm guilty of it, but at least I try to proofread my own post before throwing it out there-if I don't see it right away I will sadly find it later and try to correct myself with an edit :-[.

Max- I just used you as an example here but there was several aweful reads in there like "Bush rins" and saying it instead of it's, ect-it's nothing personal, though just had to use the example make my point ;). There are some REALLY bad ones in here that I just have on 'ignore'.

Something I cannot understand is why some folks cry about extended use of emoticons. It seems pretty shallow to me of the complaining.....they're there so, use them to show how you feel. This isn't video posting where you can see the other person's facial expression so use an emoticon if you need to. Whaaaa! The world won't end already if you use one.  :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ...and, my favorite ::)

Sadly, some folks have to cry to a Mod for emoticon use that offended them..LOL, whaaa :P

Max- You have a cool name, but I don't, maybe that's why I like Slothus or UrbanATR. I'm so used to not getting my first name called (get a nickname or last name instead) that I know it's my wife and I'm in trouble when she calls me by my first name :( 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: IndianaVader on January 10, 2006, 06:12 PM
Max- I just used you as an example here but there was several aweful reads in there...

 ;)

But seriously, I know what you are saying.  I really do try to avoid spelling and grammar errors, but I usually don't check my posts after I write them.  On most forums I don't really care if I misspell things because it's a forum and as long as I get my point across.  But what does annoy me are the "!!!" or the "y r u do1ng th1$ 2 me?????!!!!!11one"

_Max
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 12, 2006, 05:18 PM
Well, add me to the list of those banned at Rebelscum   :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mattdude on January 12, 2006, 05:26 PM
You've got to be kidding.  What happened??  You've always been so thoughtful and articulate in your posts, Alex, it's just hard to believe.

That sucks man.  >:(

-Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on January 12, 2006, 05:35 PM
Well, add me to the list of those banned at Rebelscum   :-\

Sorry to hear about that, V.V.D...you were one of the classy, above-the-fray, mature voices out there.  There aren't too many of us around.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 12, 2006, 05:37 PM
"Abuse of the PM system"

I sent out a couple PMs to people I thought might be interested in the new site, Wampa's Cave. I certaintly did not spam, just to a few people who might like the site. I was very cordial and I think that I've been nothing but productive and a good member at Rebelscum. If I was a troll, that I could understand. To be banned like this (not suspended, banned) without so much as a warning is definitely disapointing.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on January 12, 2006, 06:11 PM
"Abuse of the PM system"


I write PMs all the time.  And I never delete them (over 400 currently listed).  Am I going to be banned too??   ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 12, 2006, 06:18 PM
"Abuse of the PM system"


I write PMs all the time.  And I never delete them (over 400 currently listed).  Am I going to be banned too??   ::)

But my PMs were inviting some members to another site. The thing that makes me mad is that the PMs I sent were very nice and I ended all with "take care!", and then someone goes and reports me to the staff.  :P

This, coupled with the fact that my best friend was sent to Iraq, another friend's dad just died, and that school just started up again (and isn't off to a great start), this whole banning thing is very worrysome.  :-[
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 12, 2006, 07:04 PM
Sorry to hear about the banning.

I was banned from there during the JediDefender staff purge, but was reinstated by Dustin after he and Phillip acknowledged that I have been a longstanding Rebelscum member and have a clean record over there as far as their rules go. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 12, 2006, 07:10 PM
Sorry to hear about the banning.

I was banned from there during the JediDefender staff purge, but was reinstated by Dustin after he and Phillip acknowledged that I have been a longstanding Rebelscum member and have a clean record over there as far as their rules go. 

Hopefully I'll be reinstated as well. I've been there over 3 and a half years, and have never had so much as a warning. Ever. To be permanently banned over something this petty is absurd.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 12, 2006, 08:30 PM
That is very disappointing to read. You are a voive of reason and your posts are always well thought out at scum.

And I wonder who would be "classy" enough to report you for such a stupid thing. Do you have any theories on who may have blown you in?

I hope you get reinstated.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on January 12, 2006, 08:34 PM
You are a voive of reason and your posts are always well thought out at scum.


That's why he was banned. ::)

I'm sorry to hear that VVD (I forgot your real name :-\). Personally I think you are better off without those forums, and hopefully we'll see more of you here. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 12, 2006, 08:44 PM
That is very disappointing to read. You are a voive of reason and your posts are always well thought out at scum.

And I wonder who would be "classy" enough to report you for such a stupid thing. Do you have any theories on who may have blown you in?

I hope you get reinstated.

Cap'n - I have a few theories. Trust me, that douche bag who reported me is SO not getting an invitation to my birthday party.

Ryan - I'm here a lot, but I mainly just read threads and don't reply. My real name is Alex. What yours? (  ;) )

Thanks everyone for the support. Hopefully I'll be back soon.

In MisterKenobi's defense, he made a thread about me on Rebelscum, even though I didn't ask him to. He can be a good guy sometimes. I know a lot of you have grudges or whatever with him, but life it too short to hold grudges on a toy forum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: jokabofe on January 12, 2006, 10:26 PM
I was banned from there during the JediDefender staff purge, but was reinstated by Dustin after he and Phillip acknowledged that I have been a longstanding Rebelscum member and have a clean record over there as far as their rules go. 

Yeah, me too. But I haven't gone back since, and I don't plan on it. **** 'em.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2006, 10:41 PM
Yeah why bother worrying about it Victor?  You do realize all our areas are incredibly active with good conversation, so why fret about getting back into a place that obviously doesn't feel you should be there?  We've appreciated you here from the first day you came on board in any capacity so my thought is you should stay... 

I, like Rob, got banned at Scum amidst just a massive glut of bannings.  I got reinstated, but that unwarranted banning showed me who's running the place and who isn't, so I have written rebelscum.com off as nothing but a resource I can use here and there, and nothing more.  I'm tempted to post in some threads to just be a voice of reason but I fight the temptation down and I stay here.  I have more than enough to talk about over here as the customs talk is MUCH more involved and interesting, the collecting talk is more mature and knowledgeable overall, and our atmosphere sparks friendship and tolerance, not bitching and moaning.

I really think you should rethink how "important" things are to you there.  But like I've always said too, to each their own.  Some people prefer the atmosphere there to here...  Opinions vary, and that's cool too.  You, like Darth Rayne, are welcome here even if you feel compelled to be active there primarily.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 12, 2006, 10:41 PM
Jesse, you took the words right out of my mouth.

It must have been while you were kissing me. :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 12, 2006, 10:52 PM
Once again, great post Jesse.  8)

Its not so much as chosing RS over JD. No matter what, I'm staying at JD. There are certain aspects of JD I like, and certain aspects of RS I like. I've never felt a need to choose one over the other.

I hear and agree with what you are saying though...

Maybe, in order to be considered respectable and legit, you have to be banned there at least once?

 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 12, 2006, 11:06 PM
Alex- I want to make sure you know that it definitely was not me that reported you (I was one of the people V.V.D. graciously invited to Wampa's Cave).  I'm certainly going to check it out there, it's just my computer time has been minimal lately, so I've narrowed down how many places I go.  By the way, have you (not) enjoyed the SW Holiday Special lately :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 12, 2006, 11:27 PM
Have you considered the possibility that your PM wasn't reported? Admin's there are probably able to read your sent messages.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 12, 2006, 11:43 PM
Have you considered the possibility that your PM wasn't reported? Admin's there are probably able to read your sent messages.

I've thought it might be this too. Even if they read the PMs, the PMs were very cordial and nice, so if some douche bag got pissed I sent him a nice PM and reported me he can kiss my ass for now on.

I'll find out within due time.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 12:14 AM
Alex- I want to make sure you know that it definitely was not me that reported you (I was one of the people V.V.D. graciously invited to Wampa's Cave).  I'm certainly going to check it out there, it's just my computer time has been minimal lately, so I've narrowed down how many places I go.  By the way, have you (not) enjoyed the SW Holiday Special lately :P

No worries Daigo, I know you wouldn't do that. Oh and thanks, I guess, for the Holiday Special. I thought we were friends - friends don't let friends watch the Holiday Special.

 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 12:27 AM
Maybe, in order to be considered respectable and legit, you have to be banned there at least once?

At what point does getting banned from Rebelscum turn from a badge of honor to a badge of shame?

For example, does getting banned multiple times equal more respect?  Or is it that the first time you're banned, that's when you earn the highest amount of respect, and with each successive banning, the respect is diminished?

Just wondering.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 12:31 AM
Maybe, in order to be considered respectable and legit, you have to be banned there at least once?

At what point does getting banned from Rebelscum turn from a badge of honor to a badge of shame?

For example, does getting banned multiple times equal more respect?  Or is it that the first time you're banned, that's when you earn the highest amount of respect, and with each successive banning, the respect is diminished?

Just wondering.

Well if you are Greenday it is automatically diminished. I don't know though about if you are not GD...

I'll make a pie chart or some sort of bar graph.

 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 13, 2006, 02:08 AM
I like to think that the Cos' is way above that amateur green day act. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 03:36 AM
Thanks, KBZ.  That's nice of you to say.  Not very much true, but still nice of you to say. 

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But at this point, and on a different note, I'd like to nominate "Darth Big Boy" for the "Biggest Dumbass ******bag on 'Scum of the Week" award, for his locking down of at least two separate threads on 'Scum this week in favor of two other previous threads, both of which he started (natch), and both of which haven't been posted to since mid-2004:

Howard Stern On Sirius (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1612563&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1612563)

Happy Tree Friends (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1609635&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1609635)

"Let's try and use the search button....it helps with multiple threads on the same subject. " 

Eat a dick, Big Boy.  Searching for "Happy Tree Friends" on 'Scum's horrible search engine gets you nothing but a bunch of garbage for two full pages, and you don't actually get to the Happy Tree Friends thread Big Boy started and linked to until midway down the third page. 

So thanks, Darth Big Boy, for keeping 'Scum's pages free of the dozens and dozens of Happy Tree Friends that have been cluttering up it's pages for weeks upon weeks upon weeks. . .
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2006, 03:59 AM
I was just mother ******* the search function there tonight as I tried to find someone's feedback thread I needed to post in, so that's pretty well beyond a good point that the pudding pop master makes.  For me, I can see the point of wanting to keep things cleaned up around the forums, I know the other guys here are that way, but at the end of the day some things that are pages and pages deep just either aren't worth bringing up or it's better to merge them if it's really that big a deal...

I always get a laugh out of all the (http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/lock.gif)'s one may see at any given time of the day on the forums there.  Not that "running a big place is hard" isn't true, but sometimes it's just made comically hard.

And it's true, Bill Cosby is not Greenday.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 04:12 AM
It's just a big joke, how none of their staff is on the same page (or anywhere near each other in the Dewey Decimal System) ;) regarding crap like this.  Just recently, JoshEEE had posted a link to the "Lazy Sunday" parody rap on SNL, which another poster had mentioned was discussed heavily in an also-recent SNL discussion.  And then, of course, Dustin has to come in and layeth the smack down on the guy who pointed out that there was already another thread discussing it:

Quote
Darth_Hiryu wrote:
Ok there have been seven thousand comments about this on the SNL thread in fact the SNL thread was practically made to discuss this. Please post comments on the SNL thread.

Dustin wrote:

Quote
I tell ya what, you just worry about you and I'll handle the moderation around here. You post is borderline trolling and will not be tolerated. Think before you type.

Yes there was a SNL thread, but how are folks supposed to know that this skit about the chronicals of narnia within it. What if I don't like SNL? That's the only reason I've left this open.

Now back to your regular drama filled forum ;-)

Play nice!

The Chronicles of Narnia Rap (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1606611&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1606611)

Meanwhile, Big Boy is giving people crap about using the search feature for threads that haven't been posted to in a year and a half.

I just don't get it. 

Is there some sort of unwritten requirement that you have to huff a bunch of spray paint before you can become a moderator there that I don't know about?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2006, 04:22 AM
I'd have never seen that if you hadn't pointed it out, so I thank you for the best laugh of the night...

Yeah, that pretty much is a night and day reaction from both.  I side with Dustin's reaction completely, and I guess DBB just takes the whole "use the search function" overly serious...  I dunno.  I just picture the most FUBAR discussion topic behind the scenes there though that about 80% of the staff didn't read and the other 20% of the staff weren't important enough to have made this "decision" in the first place on their own...  It's weird.

But over-moderating is hardly new for them...  Take my Greg(g), please!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris M on January 13, 2006, 07:05 AM
Alex, looks like you've been reinstated over there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: jokabofe on January 13, 2006, 09:15 AM

Have you considered the possibility that your PM wasn't reported? Admin's there are probably able to read your sent messages.

I've thought it might be this too. Even if they read the PMs, the PMs were very cordial and nice, so if some douche bag got pissed I sent him a nice PM and reported me he can kiss my ass for now on.

As nice as they were, you can still get banned just for mentioning another site's name over at RS, regardless of which site it is. Hell, we all got banned because we had links to JediDefender in our signatures, or even less - used our JediDefender email accounts as our email accounts when signing up at RS.

So it doesn't matter how nice or cordial you're messages were, you broke one of the golden rules. No one mentions any other site outside of RS at RS. Automatic ban.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 10:06 AM

Have you considered the possibility that your PM wasn't reported? Admin's there are probably able to read your sent messages.

I've thought it might be this too. Even if they read the PMs, the PMs were very cordial and nice, so if some douche bag got pissed I sent him a nice PM and reported me he can kiss my ass for now on.

As nice as they were, you can still get banned just for mentioning another site's name over at RS, regardless of which site it is. Hell, we all got banned because we had links to JediDefender in our signatures, or even less - used our JediDefender email accounts as our email accounts when signing up at RS.

So it doesn't matter how nice or cordial you're messages were, you broke one of the golden rules. No one mentions any other site outside of RS at RS. Automatic ban.

I realize that its against the rules, but its shady that some guy I PMed nicely got pissed and reported me.  ::)

Oh well, its water under the bridge as I've been reinstated. I was told that due to the outcry of me being banned that they have reconsidered. I really truly appreciate everyone who said something.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 13, 2006, 10:21 AM
I realize that its against the rules, but its shady that some guy I PMed nicely got pissed and reported me.  ::)

I know it may have been mentioned somewhere in this thread already, but do you know who it was?

It sounds like something Mister Kenobi would do - turn around and act like a little hall monitor tattletale.

Teacher!  Teacher!  We're supposed to have homework!  You forgot to give us homework!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on January 13, 2006, 10:30 AM
I really truly appreciate everyone who said something.



No problem.  Us banned RS members have to stick together.
 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 11:00 AM
I realize that its against the rules, but its shady that some guy I PMed nicely got pissed and reported me.  ::)

I know it may have been mentioned somewhere in this thread already, but do you know who it was?

It sounds like something Mister Kenobi would do - turn around and act like a little hall monitor tattletale.

Teacher!  Teacher!  We're supposed to have homework!  You forgot to give us homework!


MisterKenobi wouldn't do that to me; in fact he's the one who made the thread rallying for my return.

I did recieve word though from Phillip though that someone I did PM did email the Rebelscum staff asking what the heck I was thinking. Some jackass obviously cared that much by me PMing him that he took the time to actually email the staff about it. Do people not have lives?

I want to refrain from just listing people, as I don't want to hurt someone innocents reputation. Trust me though, I'll figure it out.
Title: Rebelscum is a Waste of My Time
Post by: Jeff on January 13, 2006, 11:06 AM
I, too, was banned during the "Great JD Purge of April 2005" for simply being a JD Staff member, only to be re-instated like the rest of the gang.  But, like Jesse James, I hardly ever used my RS account after that.  In fact, after I was re-instated the only time I posted anything over there again was to defend the GH guys and point out blatent hypocrisy (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1500312&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1500312) on the part of the RS Mods/Admins.  That of course was unacceptible behavior and I was banned for "my association with JD".

I still think it's so stupid and so hypocritical that members can get banned for having non-RS links in their signature lines, but Moderators and Admins can do that if they want...  even stupider that I got banned for pointing that out.  ::)

In the end, the only emotion I feel about my banning is - "whatever".  If that's how they want to run their ship, making dramatic examples of those who dare speak out against them or question them, who cares?  Whatever.  No skin off my back.  I couldn't care less about not posting over there.  Really.  It's a place filled FULL of greenday101s/yooda_bois and morons.  For every "good" poster, there are 100 illiterate morons.

I would much rather spend the time I have on-line here.  The people are (for the most part) nicer, more literate, and just more mature overall.  Yeah, we have a few "greenday101" types pop up from time to time, but they are swiftly dispatched.  Maybe we will never have the "traffic" that RS has (although by the numbers, our forums are the second most active out there), but who cares if it's crappy ass traffic?  I'd rather read a thread with 5-6 well-rounded posts instead of one filled with 50 "yeah, taht guy looks hella coolz!" posts.

I consider RS to be a waste of my time.  I'll pass on the illiterate morons, the hypicritcal Admins, and Webmasters only in it to make money off their forumites.  I'm not missing anything (other than headaches) by staying away from RS.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Skyhoucker on January 13, 2006, 11:44 AM
It's just a big joke, how none of their staff is on the same page (or anywhere near each other in the Dewey Decimal System) ;) regarding crap like this.  Just recently, JoshEEE had posted a link to the "Lazy Sunday" parody rap on SNL, which another poster had mentioned was discussed heavily in an also-recent SNL discussion.  And then, of course, Dustin has to come in and layeth the smack down on the guy who pointed out that there was already another thread discussing it:

Quote
Darth_Hiryu wrote:
Ok there have been seven thousand comments about this on the SNL thread in fact the SNL thread was practically made to discuss this. Please post comments on the SNL thread.

Dustin wrote:

Quote
I tell ya what, you just worry about you and I'll handle the moderation around here. You post is borderline trolling and will not be tolerated. Think before you type.

Yes there was a SNL thread, but how are folks supposed to know that this skit about the chronicals of narnia within it. What if I don't like SNL? That's the only reason I've left this open.

Now back to your regular drama filled forum ;-)

Play nice!

The Chronicles of Narnia Rap (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1606611&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1606611)

Meanwhile, Big Boy is giving people crap about using the search feature for threads that haven't been posted to in a year and a half.

I just don't get it. 

Is there some sort of unwritten requirement that you have to huff a bunch of spray paint before you can become a moderator there that I don't know about?

I agree... I saw this as it was happening... Dustin basically threatened a user for politely offering that they post it in the section that it's been being discussed for a while... Dustin's a chode.  How many of the "mod's little helpers" direct people to other threads... oh yeah... the borderline trolling won't be tolerated.  Their policies ( or rather what they decide to enforce, and to who) change with the weather.  It's sad really, that the "standard" for Star Wars forums is the biggest joke of them all...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Skyhoucker on January 13, 2006, 11:51 AM
Oh, and I forgot to mention.  If VVD was as cordial as he said he was (which I believe him), then there are no grounds to ban/suspend him.  Philip Wise himself (in an email) informed me that the whatever happens in PMs is not ground for suspension/banning.  I can produce it on request.  I just thought I'd share that the webmaster over there can't even follow his own direction... ::)

Well, at least Doom got reinstated... yay... I've only been suspended over there twice... (currently instated, though)... I usually only go over there to see what all the schmucks have to say about bull**** subjects... it's really gone downhill since I joined in September (must be my fault).  I lurked for a while but now I just don't care.  Thanks to guys like Chris here, there's a great place to contribute without the thought of being suspended for touching a nerve... so thanks, Chris, and the rest of the staff here!  You guys know how to make outcasts like myself feel welcome!

Oh, and another thing I can't stand is when people like MisterKenobi call people noobs... define noob... is it the "fresh" members in forums?  Or is it the people that just recently have gotten into Star Wars?  I've been a fan of Star Wars for at least 5 years... just because I recently join a forum doesn't make me a noob...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 12:06 PM
For those interested, here is the PM that I sent to those couple people that day I was banned:

"Hey. I would like to invite you to Wampa's Cave, as I think you would make a good member there. Here is a link: (link)

If you chose not to sign up, thats ok, but I hope you do!

Take care!"

Thats all I said. I'm so sorry if that inconvenienced some people so much as to write an email bitching about me to the staff. I'm not angry with the staff really, as I did break the rules, but like I said that is water under the bridge. I'm angry that some loser took the time to report me over that PM above. 
 ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 12:26 PM
it's really gone downhill since I joined in September

September 2005?  September 2002 is more like it. . .

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And, just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment, is it not just a bit uncouth (or at least a little unWise) to use one forum's PM system to invite people to a competitor?  Philip's got such a bug up his ass about anyone even mentioning a competing website over there (wasn't the original Wampa's Cave thread closed and deleted/moved?), that if it were me, I think I'd try to find alternative means of inviting people to a new message board.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 12:34 PM
it's really gone downhill since I joined in September

September 2005?  September 2002 is more like it. . .

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And, just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment, is it not just a bit uncouth (or at least a little unWise) to use one forum's PM system to invite people to a competitor?  Philip's got such a bug up his ass about anyone even mentioning a competing website over there (wasn't the original Wampa's Cave thread closed and deleted/moved?), that if it were me, I think I'd try to find alternative means of inviting people to a new message board.

It's not like this whole thing of sending the invites was a large predetermined operation. I just sent a few PMs to people, nothing more, nothing less. Wampa's Cave isn't trying to be in competition with Rebelscum. Like I said earlier, I've never seen a need to make a choice between the sites. Had I been PMing the people trash talking about Scum, or telling them to ditch Scum, that I could understand. But all I did was show a couple people another forum.

I realize in hindsight I probably shouldn't have done that, and I've apologized. Its Phillip's site and he can make all the rules he wants. I just thought banning was harsh for a petty thing such as this (I also have NEVER gotten so much as a warning during my entire time at Rebelscum).
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 12:39 PM
Wampa's Cave isn't trying to be in competition with Rebelscum.

But to Philip Wise, it is.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on January 13, 2006, 12:46 PM
Okay, can we get back to discussing punctuation now that Victor's banning has been resolved?

Personally, I see it as an act of intention. Abusing punctuation is a choice, just like using all capital letters or awkward combinations of caps and lower case. Really out there slang spelling falls into this category also.

People who have poor spelling or grammar are often trying their best. It's different because they're trying to communicate vs. trying to create what someone here called  a "style". They're not making the same choice as someone who misuses punctuation, caps or intentionally awkward spelling.

I'm not in favor of punctuation abuse regardless of which user is doing it. It's in the same category as using all capital letters.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Skyhoucker on January 13, 2006, 01:05 PM
Just thought I'd make it known that I was introduced to this forum from a couple members at 'scum through PM.  It's not like I chose one over the other.  I understand where it's not "proper" to invite people to another site through the messaging system of another one.  But, I bet most people that are members of multiple forums were invited with that method.  There's nothing wrong with it... unless you're an anal tool that's an attention whore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 01:07 PM
Okay, can we get back to discussing punctuation now that Victor's banning has been resolved?

Deanpaul's right.

For the love of God...

STOP THE REBELSCUM DISCUSSION!!!

Nobody really gives a flying ****.  Take this pissing match to PMs.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 01:18 PM
Okay, can we get back to discussing punctuation now that Victor's banning has been resolved?

Deanpaul's right.

For the love of God...

STOP THE REBELSCUM DISCUSSION!!!

Nobody really gives a flying ****.  Take this pissing match to PMs.

It's not a pissing match at all...we were just discussing it. This is the Rebelscum thread after all. I've been trying to get the talk about me to slow it down, hence me repeatedly saying its water under the bridge. Everythings resolved, there is nothing more to discuss really. It's not a problem.

For not giving a flying ****, you've posted in this thread a lot.

Not trying to start **** here or start a flame war, of course.

I've said my stuff, and I'm done.

I agree with Deanpaul.





Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 13, 2006, 02:28 PM
I always wondered a few things since I left RS:

Do they have a thread in Wuher's discussing JD?

Would you get banned if you posted a link to the Official SW site in your post/signature/profile?

Would you get banned/suspended if you did not use the RS add to get to Master Replicas? PW seems to have a real hard-on for that, does he get a nickel or something everytime someone clicks on that link?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 03:09 PM
It's not a pissing match at all...we were just discussing it. This is the Rebelscum thread after all. I've been trying to get the talk about me to slow it down, hence me repeatedly saying its water under the bridge. Everythings resolved, there is nothing more to discuss really. It's not a problem.

For not giving a flying ****, you've posted in this thread a lot.

Not trying to start **** here or start a flame war, of course.

I've said my stuff, and I'm done.

I agree with Deanpaul.

Sorry, Sir.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/Smileys/classic/embarassed.gif) (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10754.msg191933#msg191933)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 13, 2006, 03:36 PM
Okay, can we get back to discussing punctuation now that Victor's banning has been resolved?

Deanpaul's right.

For the love of God...

STOP THE REBELSCUM DISCUSSION!!!

Nobody really gives a flying ****.  Take this pissing match to PMs.

Is that the best you could do on the giant text!??!!!??  Sheesh.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 04:10 PM
Is that the best you could do on the giant text!??!!!??  Sheesh.

I could have gone larger, I suppose, but at that point, isn't it really just overcompensating for small penis size?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jeff on January 13, 2006, 04:21 PM
but at that point, isn't it really just overcompensating for small penis size?
If that's the case, then Colman should type all his posts like this.

Zing!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on January 13, 2006, 04:26 PM
Own3d.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 04:51 PM
It's not a pissing match at all...we were just discussing it. This is the Rebelscum thread after all. I've been trying to get the talk about me to slow it down, hence me repeatedly saying its water under the bridge. Everythings resolved, there is nothing more to discuss really. It's not a problem.

For not giving a flying ****, you've posted in this thread a lot.

Not trying to start **** here or start a flame war, of course.

I've said my stuff, and I'm done.

I agree with Deanpaul.

Sorry, Sir.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/Smileys/classic/embarassed.gif) (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10754.msg191933#msg191933)


Did I say you could talk?

;)

(its no big deal, no hard feelings or anything)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2006, 05:09 PM
And then my text should be like this for reverse compensating.   <--- hah, that worked.  :)

BTW Matt, there's no JD thread, right now.  I have seen threads regarding other sites come up, and as long as all you did was BASH that site and not link to it, that was ok. :)  That's funny.

The most recent example was a thread trashing GalacticHunter where all links got removed.  It was trashing them for some rumors they'd posted, blah blah blah...  You couldn't link to it, but you could talk as much **** as you wanted about the site.  Very childish... 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 05:16 PM
Did I say you could talk?

;)

(its no big deal, no hard feelings or anything)

Still don't get it, do you?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 13, 2006, 05:34 PM
And then my text should be like this for reverse compensating.   <--- hah, that worked.  :)


Now THAT'S comedy!  I also like the Colman bashing....even though picking on him is becoming a lot like hooking a dead fish.   ;D

I agree with you Jesse about that place being childish.  The main reaosn why I decided to have my account removed.  I just don't have time for that crap at my age.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 05:41 PM
Did I say you could talk?

;)

(its no big deal, no hard feelings or anything)

Still don't get it, do you?

I know what you were doing, but I thought you were trying to flame me for a while. Nevermind.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2006, 08:43 PM
I know what you were doing, but I thought you were trying to flame me for a while. Nevermind.

If it ever gets to the point (and I hope it never does) where I need to flame you for something, trust me, you'll know. 

Now, let's get back to comparing our dick sizes, shall we?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 13, 2006, 08:55 PM
I know what you were doing, but I thought you were trying to flame me for a while. Nevermind.

If it ever gets to the point (and I hope it never does) where I need to flame you for something, trust me, you'll know. 

Now, let's get back to comparing our dick sizes, shall we?

Ok, I was just thinking for a sec "what the hell did I ever do to him" haha. Nice avatar BTW.

Oh, and 18 inches.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2006, 11:27 PM
Oh, and 18 inches.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b39/BKey/Miscellaneous/OMG.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: jokabofe on January 13, 2006, 11:31 PM
I always wondered a few things since I left RS:

Do they have a thread in Wuher's discussing JD?

No. You are not allowed to discuss any other site at RS other than RS, in any way, shape, or form. No public messages, no personal messages, no links, no wondering, no picture linking, nothing. As a matter of fact, if you even think about another site while you are browsing on RS, you get banned.

Quote
Would you get banned if you posted a link to the Official SW site in your post/signature/profile?

You are not allowed to discuss any other site at RS other than RS, in any way, shape, or form. No public messages, no personal messages, no links, no wondering, no picture linking, nothing. As a matter of fact, if you even think about another site while you are browsing on RS, you get banned.

Quote
Would you get banned/suspended if you did not use the RS add to get to Master Replicas? PW seems to have a real hard-on for that, does he get a nickel or something everytime someone clicks on that link?

I actually laughed out loud when I noticed on his news post about the new .45 scale mini sabers being available that he actually put "Click here to order using our affiliate link". I mean, come on. Everyone knows that any link on the RS page is going to put a nickel in your pocket Phil. But really, can you be that hard up for a few bucks that you have to say it straight out like that? Pathetic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on January 14, 2006, 12:37 AM
Hey that sucks Vic, you've always been a good person to talk to over there!! Let's talk, via PM!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 14, 2006, 12:57 AM
It's interesting to me, that Rebelscum, which is pretty much the 800-pound gorilla of the collecting sites, is so insecure about "losing users" (i.e. "revenue"--which is pretty much all the users are to Philip & Co.), that you can't even link to other sites in your sig there.  But yet the other, "smaller" sites like this one, GH, and others, are usually pretty cool about allowing links to other sites. 

You'd think, since they're the behemoths of the sites, it would be the other way around.  "Yeah, they can go check out other sites all they want.  We know they'll be back, since we're the biggest and best."

I just don't get it sometimes.

---

Look for more of these pointless, boring, obvious comments to follow in the days and weeks to come.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Commander Cody on January 14, 2006, 01:01 AM
Rebelscum would be great if old posters like Virex and OCB came back.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on January 14, 2006, 01:09 AM
Rebelscum would be great if old posters like Virex and OCB came back.


[style]Now that's just kissing up!!![/style]
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 14, 2006, 01:20 AM
Rebelscum would be great if old posters like Virex and OCB came back.

You'd think so, but that Durge ****** wrecked their forums so badly, that if even Jesus Christ himself came back to Earth and started posting there tomorrow, he still couldn't save it from the way Durge left it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 14, 2006, 01:39 AM
Rebelscum would be great if old posters like Virex and OCB came back.

You'd think so, but that Durge ****** wrecked their forums so badly, that if even Jesus Christ himself came back to Earth and started posting there tomorrow, he still couldn't save it from the way Durge left it.

That Durge guy was a post padding machine, wasn't he? How many different names did he have?

I'm just glad I don't ever have to see Virex again. I swear, I don't know what I'd do if I ran across him on a forum again...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 14, 2006, 01:41 AM
I swear, I don't know what I'd do if I ran across him on a forum again...

Complain to the moderators?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on January 14, 2006, 02:33 AM
You'd think so, but that Durge ****** wrecked their forums so badly, that if even Jesus Christ himself came back to Earth and started posting there tomorrow, he still couldn't save it from the way Durge left it.

Durge was the personification of everything wrong with the world today.  He was the first character I've ever met (online or otherwise) that I'd burn down in the street just because.

However, I thought that when he finally got the boot from RS that the trolling would end.  But the likes of Mattkatandidontknowhowtokeepthespiceinmymarriagenowthati'mtrollingrebelscumtwentyfourhoursaday, Greenday and a few others have stepped right up. 

And, by-the-way, does anyone know who this "david_kay" character is?  Because he's had his nose up the asses of the mods for a while now...but Tuesday was a crappy day (outside of the forums) and he stepped on my last nerve.  That's when I started noticing just how annoying he is.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on January 14, 2006, 02:39 AM
No. You are not allowed to discuss any other site at RS other than RS, in any way, shape, or form.

Not true.  You can discuss Phillip's other Star Wars site there all you want - TheForce.Net.  ;)

As for Phillip's mind boggling hypocrisy, most of you aren't even aware of the best one ever:  Remember the whole spam issue over at RS last April? (which in part led to my banning there, along with some **** I said about Phillip and Dustin over here)  Well, there was an e-mail message that got sent out by someone to all of the admins/webmasters/site owner's of the various Star Wars collecting websites several months ago, about some Master Replicas news information (Chris Berry got it here), and Phillip shockingly threw a hissy fit about receiving this message he considered to be "spam" (it wasn't from MR).  I don't specifically recall all the details at this point, but considering Phillip's "spam" rant over this issue wasn't too long after the infamous "You don't like our spam?  Get a life and move along" comment from Phillip to many of his RS members in their own feedback forum after he sent out his RS (Toys'R'Us) spam to his whole forum, his hypocrisy knows no bounds.

As for VVD's banning over the PM invites, I'm not at all surprised.  Cordial and polite, or not, that's not the point.  Phillip refuses to let anyone promote any competing site on his site, unless they're a staff member.  I'd be surprised if there's actually a written rule over there about it though, at least about using the PMs that way.  I know they throw a hysterical shitfit now over the links, but monitoring PMs is asinine.  Hell, that's how Scott (OCB) and I pretty much got JD's forums really off and running here several years ago, and I know lots of folks that still do it to this day.  Like Fatty said, for the gorilla of collecting sites to sweat any of the others is just pathetic.  It's like a millionaire getting pissed that he didn't get his quarter returned from the pay phone.  It shows how truly petty, insecure, and money hungry Phillip is.

I also found it downright laughable recently when someone asked in RS's feedback forum about all the new double-underlined sponsor links EVERYWHERE there now, and Dustin or Myatt (I don't recall) spewed some bull**** nonsense about needing to cover the costs of running RS.  Good Lord, that's some funny **** there.  Do they really think their members are that stupid?  Well, I guess many of them are.  But still...

And Alex, if I were you, I'd flip back 10 or so pages in this thread and find Cable's post.  You might find it enlightening...  ;)

Lastly, Birchall's right again on that September, 2002 estimation, as most of us here would contend.  Long before September, 2005 - no doubt.  But if folks weren't around way back then, they wouldn't have the privelege of knowing that.  In fact, the RS forums were really only decent for about 6 - 9 months, and that's it.  Prior to that, they weren't the RS forums, they were the CSW boards, which were definitely a great place.  Very depressing how it all turned out, especially seeing a dickhead like Phillip somehow swindling his way into controlling the vast majority of the online collecting discussion, when it was never even his to begin with.  He definitely doesn't deserve it.  Reminds me a lot of how the evil Galactic Empire was eventually formed in ROTS...  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nathan on January 14, 2006, 03:13 AM
As for Phillip's mind boggling hypocrisy, most of you aren't even aware of the best one ever:  Remember the whole spam issue over at RS last April? (which in part led to my banning there, along with some **** I said about Phillip and Dustin over here)  Well, there was an e-mail message that got sent out by someone to all of the admins/webmasters/site owner's of the various Star Wars collecting websites several months ago, about some Master Replicas news information (Chris Berry got it here), and Phillip shockingly threw a hissy fit about receiving this message he considered to be "spam" (it wasn't from MR).  I don't specifically recall all the details at this point, but considering Phillip's "spam" rant over this issue wasn't too long after the infamous "You don't like our spam?  Get a life and move along" comment from Phillip to many of his RS members in their own feedback forum after he sent out his RS (Toys'R'Us) spam to his whole forum, his hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Heehee ... actually, I (in my capacity as CloneWarz.com (http://www.clonewarz.com) staff) got those missives. I feel special. 8)

There were 23 emails in total. I chickened out on reposting it (even in condensed form) out here for mass public consumption, since it's sorta-kinda private content even though it was all cc'ed to about thirty sites and individuals. But y'all can PM me for highlights--easier to keep the damage under control that way.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on January 14, 2006, 04:33 AM
As for Phillip's mind boggling hypocrisy, most of you aren't even aware of the best one ever:  Remember the whole spam issue over at RS last April? (which in part led to my banning there, along with some **** I said about Phillip and Dustin over here)  Well, there was an e-mail message that got sent out by someone to all of the admins/webmasters/site owner's of the various Star Wars collecting websites several months ago, about some Master Replicas news information (Chris Berry got it here), and Phillip shockingly threw a hissy fit about receiving this message he considered to be "spam" (it wasn't from MR).  I don't specifically recall all the details at this point, but considering Phillip's "spam" rant over this issue wasn't too long after the infamous "You don't like our spam?  Get a life and move along" comment from Phillip to many of his RS members in their own feedback forum after he sent out his RS (Toys'R'Us) spam to his whole forum, his hypocrisy knows no bounds.

From all of Phillip's bull**** responses in that lenghty spam discussion between the site admins (which I won't re-post here either), this little nugget was certainly the highlight of them all:

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The last thing I need is more email in my inbox that doesn't belong there.

 :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 14, 2006, 09:40 AM
No. You are not allowed to discuss any other site at RS other than RS, in any way, shape, or form.

As for VVD's banning over the PM invites, I'm not at all surprised.  Cordial and polite, or not, that's not the point.  Phillip refuses to let anyone promote any competing site on his site, unless they're a staff member.  I'd be surprised if there's actually a written rule over there about it though, at least about using the PMs that way.  I know they throw a hysterical shitfit now over the links, but monitoring PMs is asinine.  Hell, that's how Scott (OCB) and I pretty much got JD's forums really off and running here several years ago, and I know lots of folks that still do it to this day.  Like Fatty said, for the gorilla of collecting sites to sweat any of the others is just pathetic.  It's like a millionaire getting pissed that he didn't get his quarter returned from the pay phone.  It shows how truly petty, insecure, and money hungry Phillip is.



And Alex, if I were you, I'd flip back 10 or so pages in this thread and find Cable's post.  You might find it enlightening...  ;)


The point of me saying that the PMs were nice and cordial isn't against Phillip. I realize rules are rules, and I broke the rules. What I'm mad about is the person who tattle taled me to the staff. I send them a nice PM, and they throw a hissy fit and try sucking up to the staff by telling on me  ::)

I totally forgot about the Cable quote for a while and was just like "WTF Virex?!?". Thankfully a couple other members here explained it to me and set me straight.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 14, 2006, 11:09 AM
The point of me saying that the PMs were nice and cordial isn't against Phillip. I realize rules are rules, and I broke the rules.

Is there actually a rule there that says you can't PM someone a link to a different site?  Probably not (although there might be one shortly, just to spite me).  It's probably more of an unwritten type thing.  Like, is it against the law to have sex with your cousin?  No (and I've checked).  But will it get you kicked out of the trailer?  You betcha.  That type of deal.

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I totally forgot about the Cable quote for a while and was just like "WTF Virex?!?". Thankfully a couple other members here explained it to me and set me straight.

In the future, if something like this happens again, and you have to bring in a team of experts to figure out what the hell I'm talking about, it's probably best to just leave it alone.  Eventually it'll go away by itself.

"Best leave it unsolved, really. . ."
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 14, 2006, 01:19 PM
VVD, glad you got reinstated.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Commander Cody on January 14, 2006, 04:57 PM

Durge was the personification of everything wrong with the world today.  He was the first character I've ever met (online or otherwise) that I'd burn down in the street just because.



LOL!  ;D :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Commander Cody on January 14, 2006, 10:59 PM
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/loungegraphics/pw.gif)


Look how proud Phillip looks! :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 14, 2006, 11:19 PM
Like, is it against the law to have sex with your cousin?  No (and I've checked).  But will it get you kicked out of the trailer?  You betcha.  That type of deal.

Interesting.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ben on January 15, 2006, 12:14 AM
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/loungegraphics/pw.gif)


Look how proud Phillip looks! :D

Looks more like a tool to me.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on January 15, 2006, 12:59 AM

I'm just glad I don't ever have to see Virex again. I swear, I don't know what I'd do if I ran across him on a forum again...

Virex is a prick.  End of story.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: exjedi on January 15, 2006, 11:27 PM
Wow, I actually had to go back to the beginning and read this thread from the start, since I thought all this time I might be the only one out there that would like to kick Phillip Not-so-Wise in that Jabba size gut of his.

I was wondering if anyone has ever seen Phillip's left nut Dustin in person before or is he just an imaginary jackass?

 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 15, 2006, 11:32 PM
I gave him a can of SPAM to give to Philip at Celebration 3.

He does in fact exist.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: XxcrazyasspunkxX on January 15, 2006, 11:34 PM


I was wondering if anyone has ever seen Phillip's left nut Dustin in person before or is he just an imaginary jackass?

 
lol..hahah..thats so funny, I think it is.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2006, 11:38 PM
I was wondering if anyone has ever seen Phillip's left nut Dustin in person before or is he just an imaginary jackass?

I hung out with Dustin for a little while during Celebration I in Denver. 

Before the dark times.  Before the Empire.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: exjedi on January 15, 2006, 11:48 PM
I gave him a can of SPAM to give to Philip at Celebration 3.

He does in fact exist.

Kevin

Good, I am looking forward to meeting to pos in person one day. 

It was difficult to see what this guy looks like from that stupid avatar he had up on RS forever with him making that gay pride sign or whatever the hell it was.  I just figured I would just look for the big vag. walking around at the next Star Wars function and that would probably be him.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 15, 2006, 11:51 PM
What does his being homosexual have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: XxcrazyasspunkxX on January 15, 2006, 11:52 PM
I gave him a can of SPAM to give to Philip at Celebration 3.

He does in fact exist.

Kevin

Good, I am looking forward to meeting to pos in person one day. 

It was difficult to see what this guy looks like from that stupid avatar he had up on RS forever with him making that gay pride sign or whatever the hell it was.  I just figured I would just look for the big vag. walking around at the next Star Wars function and that would probably be him.


I love when people dis other people and be Vag do u mean ***
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 15, 2006, 11:54 PM
Its funny you post in this thread Greenday. How many times have you been banned at Rebelscum?  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on January 15, 2006, 11:56 PM
He won't be joining us in this conversation, let's move on.  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 15, 2006, 11:58 PM
He won't be joining us in this conversation, let's move on.  ;)

(starts slow clap)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on January 16, 2006, 12:00 AM
You should see a doctor about that slow clap.  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 16, 2006, 12:01 AM
You should see a doctor about that slow clap.  :P

I've got this cream he gave me...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on January 16, 2006, 12:05 AM
You should see a doctor about that slow clap.  :P

I've got this cream he gave me...

Great.  ;D 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: exjedi on January 16, 2006, 12:08 AM
What does his being homosexual have to do with anything?

I am sorry, I hereby apologize to the homosexuals, I was incorrect, he is not a homosexual, he is a hermaphrodite.

And I must have missed something between here and there, who is this Greenday person that annoys so many?

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: exjedi on January 16, 2006, 12:12 AM
What does his being homosexual have to do with anything?

I am sorry, I hereby apologize to the homosexuals, I was incorrect, he is not a homosexual, he is a hermaphrodite.

And I must have missed something between here and there, who is this Greenday person that annoys so many?



I am also sorry, in advance to the hermaphrodite's, it's not his fault that he is a part of your group, he was born that way.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on January 16, 2006, 12:13 AM
And I must have missed something between here and there, who is this Greenday person that annoys so many?

A tool troll! 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: exjedi on January 16, 2006, 12:23 AM
And I must have missed something between here and there, who is this Greenday person that annoys so many?

A tool troll! 

I see, well then, now that I have that out of the way, I will stop giving the troll things to reply to.   I am sure he or she has a busy day at school tomorrow.   

Nope, I forgot, tomorrow is a Holiday for the younglings, no wonder he or she still up.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on January 16, 2006, 08:49 PM
Here go to http://joes-customfigures.com/forum/index.php and see whos there   ::) check his profile too ;) muwahhahaha
I can't beleive he's a Mod there, heck I can't believe I am either ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 17, 2006, 01:18 AM
Here go to http://joes-customfigures.com/forum/index.php and see whos there   ::) check his profile too ;) muwahhahaha
I can't beleive he's a Mod there, heck I can't believe I am either ???


Why in the hell would anyone make him a mod. Good luck getting members. :P

  And why are all four members staff there?  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 17, 2006, 01:27 AM
And why are all four members staff there?  ::)

In case Smartypants goes on a 2 minute banning spree that will shake the whole collecting community.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Commander Cody on January 17, 2006, 04:22 AM
Oh come on! How in the hell do they justify posting this in the "collections" section?

(http://www.rebelscum.com/collections/thomas/004.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mikey D on January 17, 2006, 07:41 AM
Someone should tell that person that you need to paint the drywall after you tape and spackle it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on January 17, 2006, 08:12 AM
Someone should tell that person that you need to paint the drywall after you tape and spackle it.

Eh.  Why bother?  If they didn't already know that to begin with, telling them now would just be wasted breath.
 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 17, 2006, 10:00 AM
A thought just occured to me. If this "chase" figure program really is a chase figure situation, who thinks the forums over there are just going to implode? Think about it. These chase figures are going to cause a huge stir, and not in a good way. RS has allowed a their Collect to Collect philosphy to go by the way side and the forums are now filled with people who scalp, whether they accept the definition or not. By human nature, all of those people are going to  get into major fights due to jealousy and the mods, or lack there of, are going to be overwhelmed.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 17, 2006, 10:56 AM
A thought just occured to me. If this "chase" figure program really is a chase figure situation, who thinks the forums over there are just going to implode? Think about it. These chase figures are going to cause a huge stir, and not in a good way. RS has allowed a their Collect to Collect philosphy to go by the way side and the forums are now filled with people who scalp, whether they accept the definition or not. By human nature, all of those people are going to  get into major fights due to jealousy and the mods, or lack there of, are going to be overwhelmed.

I remember when that "Collect to Collect" medal was proudly displayed on the forums page.

I haven't seen that medal in years.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 17, 2006, 02:02 PM
I remember when that "Collect to Collect" medal was proudly displayed on the forums page.

I haven't seen that medal in years.

I forgot all about that medal... damn... They took it down about 2 years ago, at least. I need to dig around and see if I might have a picture of it somewhere. I seriously doubt it, though.


I can't beleive he's a Mod there, heck I can't believe I am either ???

It isn't easy for a little kid to kick start a community on a free-based forum with no contacts, draw, or reliable staff - I think you should give him some credit for at least having the guts to go out on a limb and try something like that.


Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Broem on January 17, 2006, 02:20 PM
(http://threads.rebelscum.com/loungegraphics/pw.gif)


Look how proud Phillip looks! :D

In time you will call me...Master!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on January 17, 2006, 04:30 PM
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I forgot all about that medal... damn... They took it down about 2 years ago, at least. I need to dig around and see if I might have a picture of it somewhere. I seriously doubt it, though.

The medal and the page explaining it is still around.

http://www.rebelscum.com/collect.asp

I actually just used it when starting up a new "photo thread" thing today, since Darth Big Boy's hasn't been used in awhile.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: SilverZ on January 17, 2006, 07:38 PM
That's strange, I thought this was the current one:

(http://images6.theimagehosting.com/rs.jpg) (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

 ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on January 17, 2006, 08:00 PM
I don't think that Rebelscum as an entity has started supporting scalping or something.  I think there are a lot of people there (myself included) that still believe in "Collect to Collect".

The problem isn't with the philosophy.  It's simply that they don't have enough good moderators left to shut down every instance of scalping that pops up there. I still report posts when I see them, and I have a feeling if everyone else did too.....those people that think it's ok to do that would eventually get the hint and leave. 



Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 17, 2006, 08:20 PM
I don't think that Rebelscum as an entity has started supporting scalping or something.  I think there are a lot of people there (myself included) that still believe in "Collect to Collect".

The problem isn't with the philosophy.  It's simply that they don't have enough good moderators left to shut down every instance of scalping that pops up there. I still report posts when I see them, and I have a feeling if everyone else did too.....those people that think it's ok to do that would eventually get the hint and leave. 


I'm in the same boat as you Josh. I've been saying it for a while now: they need more good moderators.

The problem with reporting threads is that they aren't looked at for MONTHS sometimes. For instance, right now there is a thread in the Jedi Archives section called "500th post".  While I didn't report it, I remember hearing someone say they reported it months ago. Just look at the thread and read the posts in it...you'll see that other people are wondering why it is still around as well.

I once reported one of darth yaddle's posts because he circumvented the language filter by saying **** (he used it in a url, linking to one of his petitions to get allowed back). I personally don't care if people say it, but seeing as how Scum is an all ages site and they get pissed if you type A$$, I figured I might as well notify the mods to it. I reported the post back in November. Its still there.

I'm also getting sick of the people on Scum who use the rationale "Everyone scalps, whether they admit it or not" or use little pretty euphenisms to try to make themselves feel better about doing it. No matter how much makeup you put on a turd, a turd is a turd. Just because everyone is doing it, doesn't make it ok. If everyone was jumping off a bridge, would you do it too?

Someone brought up a good point in a recent thread about scalping. They said that people lately have been using the excuse "but I'm a poor college student" to defend their scalping. I'm a poor college student too. Sure, I could go to Wal-Mart and snatch up every single TSC figure because they are hot right now, but do I? No. It hurts the hobby. Whether its a big thing or a little thing, it hurts MY community and hobby.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 17, 2006, 10:02 PM
I'd say I agree with Josh...  to an extent.

I don't believe guys like Dave, Dustin, Philip, etc. are scalpers or support the notion...  Contrary to what they may think, the staff here doesn't truly hate their guts like that...  Dislike their actions?  Dislike how they treat their forum members who DID show loyalty and were an asset at their site, and not a problem?  Yes, some here feel that way, but I think this is how many here view the situation:

The site maybe doesn't have the mods it needs, but at the same time the staff are there, they are active, and they really just don't give two ***** when things come up that are big problems.  Unless it's trashing Rebelscum's actions, unless it's open criticism of the way things are run there, the Scum staff don't care about their forums near enough and it shows.

Scalping is let slide...  I don't think the aforementioned staffers are scalpers or support the notion, but I do think they have htis "meh, who cares" attitude sometimes, and that scalping's something they can't control on their forums by saying "we're too busy".  I'm busy too, but if it comes up here it's something any one of us will nip in the bud right quickly...  It's just not tolerated, and yes it does come up, and yes our staff is as busy as anyone...  Sometimes it seems moreso because we don't always seem to have the time to do our "jobs" here for the front page too.

So do I think the C2C motto is something they believe in?  Probably, I only know Curto really well and I know Philip didn't ask high prices on anything he's sold, even rare stuff, so that's cool he's a good egg like that, but at the same time their forums are neglected...  Youc an't leave what mods they have to make the decisions it seems, and if you're membership quality is so low you can't promote reliable help from anywhere in this supposedly vast pool of "talent", then to me that just says an equally low commentary about what goes on at your forums overall.  Not to say there aren't people I think you could trust who are there regularly, it's just that nobody's seemingly on the same page...  Nobody cares enough about the job except the few mods they do have, and they're not on the same page with the rest of the staff a lot of the time.  Thus people lose their "job" who were mods, mods are overruled at times by staff, etc...  Nobody cares from the top down, and thus the forums have suffered and are a sham in their overall quality compared to what they were several years back.  The BHC worked because it was run by guys like Burn, mousedroid, jedicrippler, etc., who actually gave a ****.  And like I've always said, some places run their site one way, others like it another way...  I think the "it's so big" excuse is getting old though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on January 17, 2006, 11:47 PM
Edmund Burke said it best I think: "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

I guess we can modify it to say "All that is necessary for the triumph of scalpers is that good men do nothing."

Regardless of where the community is, I think the point here is that when good people do nothing, the community in general is hurt. At forums, when there is an issue that impacts or has the potential to hurt the community in a negative way, and members do not report or pass on it thinking others will act, Mods do not respond or do not take action, and people in general are not passionate about what occurs in their community, the result is apathy (wherever that community is). When apathy, for whatever reason sets in, reason is lost, and chaos/evil slowly begins to creep in. History shows that all over place, and I think we can see that reflected in our culture and society right now. That is why when a community comes together, it makes news and we as a society are fascinated by it; but that is JMO.
So in the end, how active the members of a community are, and remain, is what makes a community strong.  Communities change over time, and that is unavoidable. The key is for good people to stay involved in their community.

 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Xander on January 18, 2006, 08:26 AM
Someone should tell that person that you need to paint the drywall after you tape and spackle it.


Hahahaha!
Sorry, I don't normally laugh at bad photography or attempts to display a collection, but the drywall comment did it for me.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 18, 2006, 09:55 AM
I don't think that Rebelscum as an entity has started supporting scalping or something.  I think there are a lot of people there (myself included) that still believe in "Collect to Collect".

The problem isn't with the philosophy.  It's simply that they don't have enough good moderators left to shut down every instance of scalping that pops up there. I still report posts when I see them, and I have a feeling if everyone else did too.....those people that think it's ok to do that would eventually get the hint and leave. 





I specifically started two threads in the feedback section regarding RS's policy on scalping in both the collector threads and the classifieds. Both threads were never addressed by the administration. They weren't even locked. Since most issues are dealt with swiftly and decisively, I think this says alot.

I think it says that, on the surface, Collect to Collect is something that they believe in and suport. However, the scalping issue has become so insurmountable, and so common, that they are either too overwhelmed by it or too afraid to openly condem it for fear of loosing too many members.

All in all, Josh, you hit it on the head, it'a all in the moderators. I have never, ever seen one moderator step in a specifically say that scalping talk is frowned upon, and when I report scalping talk, I never see the issue addressed. I think that says a lot about the moderators as well. That said, I'm sure an increase in scalping outrage would cause a policy change, but given the current climate, I don't think there's nearly enough support from the community. :(
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on January 18, 2006, 02:05 PM
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All in all, Josh, you hit it on the head, it'a all in the moderators. I have never, ever seen one moderator step in a specifically say that scalping talk is frowned upon, and when I report scalping talk, I never see the issue addressed. I think that says a lot about the moderators as well. That said, I'm sure an increase in scalping outrage would cause a policy change, but given the current climate, I don't think there's nearly enough support from the community

Yeah. I guess it's up to the members to try and continue to fight against it.  I still do, by reporting it when I see it, and that's all I can do.  When I was a mod, I fought against scalping pretty hard.  I watched those classified ads like a hawk. Unfortunately, I also fought against things like the post count and the "Durges" of the site....and that made me not as popular.  I just wanted to clean that place up.   Still do actually......and every once in awhile, I miss those padlocks.   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 18, 2006, 03:05 PM
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All in all, Josh, you hit it on the head, it'a all in the moderators. I have never, ever seen one moderator step in a specifically say that scalping talk is frowned upon, and when I report scalping talk, I never see the issue addressed. I think that says a lot about the moderators as well. That said, I'm sure an increase in scalping outrage would cause a policy change, but given the current climate, I don't think there's nearly enough support from the community

Yeah. I guess it's up to the members to try and continue to fight against it.  I still do, by reporting it when I see it, and that's all I can do.  When I was a mod, I fought against scalping pretty hard.  I watched those classified ads like a hawk. Unfortunately, I also fought against things like the post count and the "Durges" of the site....and that made me not as popular.  I just wanted to clean that place up.   Still do actually......and every once in awhile, I miss those padlocks.   ;D

I'm a little sick of the post counts as well. Some members who have only been there for 6 months now have Moff status (not like it matters) because they post pad so much...a certain post padding "Commander_____" comes to mind (he tried to secretly get me banned for no reason while being nice to my face before so screw him).

The test area should be renamed post padders zone. Take a look there, and you will see the same regulars doing the same "tests". I've brought this to the attention of the staff before and was told not to worry about it.


For what its worth, it was a valiant effort JoshEEE.



Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on January 18, 2006, 03:58 PM
I'm a little sick of the post counts as well. Some members who have only been there for 6 months now have Moff status (not like it matters) because they post pad so much...a certain post padding "Commander_____" comes to mind (he tried to secretly get me banned for no reason while being nice to my face before so screw him).

I could not agree with you more.  I don't give a crap about what my post count is and most of the upstanding members (of any board, this isn't just an RS problem) don't care either.

It's the people that pad their count in an attempt to gain legitimacy rather than gain it through posting relevant and intelligent information. 

Mattkatandicanthitthepostbuttonfastenough is a prime example.  I've seen where he tried to use his post count as a reason why his incorrect answer to a question should be accepted as fact.  When proved wrong he dismissed it and argued that he was a "respected" member and then proceeded on to the second method of trying to become relevant; name dropping.

There's a new guy over there now following the same methodology: high post count = knowledge.  Yet, by the questions he asks and the answers he gives it's obvious he doesn't know what he's talking about.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dresden on January 18, 2006, 04:28 PM
Post counts only prove that certain people have more free time than other people... coughcoughDarth_Raynecoughcough ;)

Sorry buddy, I had to take the shot.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on January 18, 2006, 04:43 PM
Post counts only prove that certain people have more free time than other people... coughcoughDarth_Raynecoughcough ;)

Sorry buddy, I had to take the shot.



And you can go **** yourself!
  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dresden on January 18, 2006, 04:46 PM
Post counts only prove that certain people have more free time than other people... coughcoughDarth_Raynecoughcough ;)

Sorry buddy, I had to take the shot.



And you can go **** yourself!
  ;D

I will... in your cubicle!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 19, 2006, 12:54 AM
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Mattkatandicanthitthepostbuttonfastenough is a prime example.  I've seen where he tried to use his post count as a reason why his incorrect answer to a question should be accepted as fact.  When proved wrong he dismissed it and argued that he was a "respected" member and then proceeded on to the second method of trying to become relevant; name dropping.

That reminds me E, of the time I saw him post something to (how does he call it?  A "newb"?) someone over there one time.  KitKatFlimFlam told this new guy something along the lines of, "You've only been here blah blah, and you should learn to respect the people who've been here longer".  Yes, the same guy who just celebrated his first year there openly, was talking down to some new guy about seniority.

This is also the same guy who basically tried to put down every OLDER person in time spent at that forum for calling him on all his various bull**** posts, his random trolling of forum members, his flaming insults, etc...  The guy lives in this world where time and space only applies to the universe as he sees fit I guess, and in this little world he's the "senior" guy everywhere somehow, and feels HIS seniority demands respect...  Not that he should respect HIS "elders"... 

And let's get to the meat of this...  You earn respect, you don't get it by the number of years you've spent on Earth, or at a toy site.  If you're a respectable person you get respect, and if you're a total ******bag, you get treated as though you are.  His little badge could be 20 colored blocks wide over there, and **** up the way the page is viewed for all I care, I still wouldn't give him an ounce of respect till I saw him behave like something other than a prick.  If you can't show to me that you can interact with people WITHOUT picking a fight all the time, talking down to others, turning a simple disagreement into mudslinging insults, then I'm sorry but there's no respect being earned or deserved there.  MatKat could've created Rebelscum and I'd still feel this way.  I don't care how "senior" he feels he is.  He's got some years of growing before he sees this light I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2006, 01:03 AM
When proved wrong he dismissed it and argued that he was a "respected" member and then proceeded on to the second method of trying to become relevant; name dropping.

That's absolutely classic.

I can't think of 3 people over the age of 10 who'd consider him a respected member of anything.  Nevermind that he registered just barely over a year ago and has yet to find his first quality post.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 19, 2006, 01:42 AM
I wonder who's name he dropped?  I missed that, but yeah it's funny to think about it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 19, 2006, 10:02 AM
Along the same lines, you guys might find this amusing. A few months ago, Jimbo was just doing his thing, getting in, complaining about peoples attitudes, opinions, knowledge, etc. I can't remember the thread, but every other post was just him beratting various people. It went on for pages. Finally, some realatively new person stood up and said something to the effect of, "who the hell are you anyway?" and started to lay into him, in a really intellegent way. Then, everyone else started chiming in with "yeah!" It was awesome. Jimbo went away.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2006, 11:42 AM
I'd like to invite Mister Kenobi back to continue our discussion from last time.  He's called out several people in the Rebelscum Photo Album thread and I think that it would only be appropriate to discuss it in a place where he can actually see the replies.  Since I'm on ignore and he can't see posts from me over there.

Here he calls efranks 'thick'

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Just like efranks - that guy is too thick to understand t

Here he calls me a ******bag and makes some disturbing masturbatory comments:

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JoshEEE, I would be all over that, but some douchbag would save my picture and photoshop it like some 13 year old obsessed fan and post it all over an anti-rebelscum forum so they could all touch themselves while they view it as well. Oh wait a sec... that's right, Kneel_Before_Zod already did that

Here he has the nerve to call me a web-stalker despite knowing a hell of a lot more about my life than I do about his:

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Hey it's not that I'm offended by it or anything. I'm not embarassed by the way I look in the least or anything like that, but it's a little unnerving to know that people are that hung up on me that a 25 year-old graphic designer living in a 2-bedroom loft in Dallas has no more important things to do than that. It's also a little depressing to see how some people spend their time. Rob would fare well working for the National Enquirer. Makes me glad I'm moving back east this week. At least I'll be more than 2 hours away from my web-stalker

By the way, I'm not really a graphic designer - I work on motion graphics and visual effects.

Also, I don't photoshop this stuff when I'm at home, I do it from work.  I've got lots of important things to do, but when I'm at work I manage to pencil in the 5 minutes to have a little fun with photoshop.

So please come back and talk with us - you mention me repeatedly over there knowing that you can't see any replies.  It's lame, even for you.


All of this can be found here:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1266087&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=7
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 19, 2006, 12:21 PM
So Kenobi got drunk off his ass and puked all over himself at CIII? Man, I'm almost embarassed for him.

I don't think I've done that since Junior High.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on January 19, 2006, 12:35 PM
I'm amazed over his amount of posts in a years time. Sadly when I see a post by MK I tend to skip it because it usually involves an insult, a setup to a pending insult, a slam, a retort, or an outright flame.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dresden on January 19, 2006, 01:04 PM
I look at it like this, a lot of people that post on internet forums are complete and total **** ups in real life. We live in a country that is full of complete and total **** ups. We also live in a country where people are socialized to not think of themselves as a total **** up, but rationalize it as something else, albeit, they're depressed or oppressed or repressed or some such psychological idiocy where they can placate themselves into believing they're not really **** ups, and maybe if they talk enough **** online, some other idiot out there will think they're cool or something. I say "something" because I really don't know what anyone could be going for under such a premise. Albeit, I *love* to be a dick sometimes, and cause trouble, but at least I try to have a valid point when I'm doing it. I also enjoy good old fashioned rhetoric, but that only works for so long before  you get called a d-bag or something. Why is douche censored on here? If they can say ******bag on national TV, what gives? Bueller? Anyone? So, yeah, back to my original point, people are ******* retards, and people like being retards on the internet, and since RS is one of the first search results on Google for "Star Wars Toys", it ends up being a magnet for the aforementioned phenotype.

So yeah, basically, if your life is ****** and unfufilling and you're a total **** up, that attitude follows you on to the internet. They need to do SOMETHING that makes them feel big in the pants. When success fails you in real life, get on a forum and declare being a carded collector makes you akin to Jesus. :)




Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2006, 01:49 PM
Rob, is there anyway to reverse the animation in your avatar--you know, run it backwards?

Because I think we'd all agree that MatkitikKeed'kak deserves the ol' shot-in-the-mouth, if you know what I mean.

I mean, if he's this upset over the avatar now, seeing it ran backwards would be even harder for him to swallow.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: SilverZ on January 19, 2006, 02:48 PM
I'll hand it to MK though, his last shot at you Rob was the first thing to happen at RS in the last two years that has prompted me to want to post there. Of course, the thread was locked before I had my chance to do so.

Hopefully he can pop in and discuss his feelings with us here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dresden on January 19, 2006, 03:13 PM
I wouldn't call that much of a shot...

Unless you really take it to heart he called you out on only having 2 bedrooms.

Come on Rob, strive for 3 on your next lease.

:P
 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on January 19, 2006, 03:17 PM
Hopefully he can pop in and discuss his feelings with us here.

I don't know, he might lack the proper 'hardware'.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2006, 03:55 PM
I wouldn't call that much of a shot...

Unless you really take it to heart he called you out on only having 2 bedrooms.

Come on Rob, strive for 3 on your next lease.

:P
 


Two bedrooms?  Shows what he knows...  I only have one.  One bedroom and one bigger main room.  What we lack in bedroom quantity we make up for with really high ceilings. 

Why the hell would I need more?  It's just my girlfriend and I. 




(For the record the two bedroom units were running about $275,000.00 and the building only has 4 of those.) 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2006, 03:58 PM
Rob, is there anyway to reverse the animation in your avatar--you know, run it backwards?

Why yes, yes there is.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dresden on January 19, 2006, 04:08 PM
I wouldn't call that much of a shot...

Unless you really take it to heart he called you out on only having 2 bedrooms.

Come on Rob, strive for 3 on your next lease.

:P
 


Two bedrooms?  Shows what he knows...  I only have one.  One bedroom and one bigger main room.  What we lack in bedroom quantity we make up for with really high ceilings. 

Why the hell would I need more?  It's just my girlfriend and I. 





But... But... where do you put your Star Wars stuff?

:)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2006, 04:10 PM
Imagine a large room with 12 foot ceilings completely covered from the floor to the ceiling in star wars toys.   :)

That was the deal when we stopped looking for places with an extra bedroom because my girlfriend liked this building so much.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on January 19, 2006, 04:25 PM
I'd like to invite Mister Kenobi back to continue our discussion from last time.

Yes, his "Jackhole" account has indeed been unbanned here.  In fact, it was kind of a mistake that he wound up being banned in the first place, as we were rather excited to be able to chat with him over here.

So Jackhole, please come back and play with us.  We'd love to have you...  :)

- Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on January 19, 2006, 04:43 PM
Rob, is there anyway to reverse the animation in your avatar--you know, run it backwards?

Why yes, yes there is.

Classic. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on January 19, 2006, 04:46 PM
Why is douche censored on here? If they can say ******bag on national TV, what gives? Bueller? Anyone?

Dresden, you have the option of turning your language filter off here, in your profile somewhere.  I suggest you do it, as the conversation is much more entertaining and colorful that way...  ;)

So Kenobi got drunk off his ass and puked all over himself at CIII? Man, I'm almost embarassed for him.

Yep, on his first night at C3, no less.  He seemed to be bragging about it after everyone got back from Indy, as if getting sent to the hospital with alcohol poisoning, and then having to go back home to Oklahoma after just one night, was some type of impressive feat.  Very bizarre...  I'd be embarrassed as **** if I were him, and very pissed too, to have ruined what should've been a very fun convention and trip, just because he couldn't hold his liquor.  Pathetic, really.

What's amusing, is that nearly a year later he seems to have realized people apparently didn't think his puking and getting sent home was quite as cool as he thought it was, so now he's trying to recant his whole story and say it was mostly because he had the flu at the time.  Funny how much he tends to change many of his stories around about things he's said there, whenever he feels he's not getting the anticipated response that he was hoping for.

I'm guessing that within a few months here, he'll come back and tell everyone that he's not really a certified genius after all, since his attempted bragging about his supposed incredible IQ level didn't bring him greater respect and a ton of "You're so smart!" comments from the RS members.  He'd certainly be the dumbest smart person I've ever known, if it were actually true...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on January 19, 2006, 04:58 PM
I wonder who's name he dropped?  I missed that, but yeah it's funny to think about it.

I don't recall now. He tossed out some high post count names...about how he's "friends" with them.  As if to say that even though his answer was wrong, if his post count didn't make it right, knowing these people would.

I'd like to invite Mister Kenobi back to continue our discussion from last time.  He's called out several people in the Rebelscum Photo Album thread and I think that it would only be appropriate to discuss it in a place where he can actually see the replies.  Since I'm on ignore and he can't see posts from me over there.

Here he calls efranks 'thick'

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Just like efranks - that guy is too thick to understand t

Thanks fan-*******-tastic!  He called me out in a thread I've never read, about a comment I made on another board.  I guess I'm going to have to go and read that whole topic now to see why that even came up.  It's pretty funny though...and now we have further proof that he haunts this board looking for any mention of his name.

What's really sad about that comment, recanting his previous marriage support question, is that he probably needs help.  If you lived with that guy wouldn't you be looking for a way out?

I heard about his being sent home from C3.  What a waste of time and money.  Didn't he also get discharged from the Air Force for some reason, injury or something?  It just sounds like he can't finish anything he starts...except his EP1 figure collection.  Which, any die-hard would have completed sometime around 12/31/1999 if they were really a fan.

   E...

PS - Although most of this post was me being sarcastic, have no doubt that I believe Matt is a ******* *******.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dresden on January 19, 2006, 05:01 PM
Why is douche censored on here? If they can say ******bag on national TV, what gives? Bueller? Anyone?

Dresden, you have the option of turning your language filter off here, in your profile somewhere.  I suggest you do it, as the conversation is much more entertaining and colorful that way...  ;)


Whoomp, there it is.

Thanks buddy.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 19, 2006, 05:02 PM
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Oh - and then they always go to JD to post their jokes about me (and Dustin, Philip, DBB, etc) because they all lack the required "hardware" to post it here and to our faces

I LOVE this quote...  Why?

Because it's MisterKenobi's lameass way of trying to drag Dustin, Philip, and DBB into his little ****fest, and hopefully have them take action on people there, for what is said here.

Fact is, nobody who's isn't banned there is saying much about those three.  I don't make fun of any of them.  I don't care for their way of running things at RS either and I voice that, but I hardly "offend" any of them.  I'm sure DBB when he comes to Pittsburgh (he keeps saying he wants to go to Comic-Con some year) will get a PM from me to let him know he can contact me when he's in town.  I don't care.  Dustin and Philip would too if they were coming to Pittsburgh just because I'm a cordial kinda guy even if we have had disagreements...

The thing is though, KitKatFlimFlam's just trying WAY too hard over there to really get people in trouble for **** they do here.  If anything, if I were Philip or Dustin, I'd be GOOD and pissed right now that wonder twat Mister Kenobi decided to bring stuff FROM here over there.  You want someone to throw the book at?  It's that sopping wet ******bag, because he should have his head far enough out his ass not to bring up JD...  Afterall, our staff have learned what the response is when you do, so why would he think his saying stuff there is any more acceptable on their site?  Stupid.

Seriously, when will he get "it" that people talk about RS here because they CAN'T talk about it at RS?  Because a lot were banned for criticizing the site, so now they're basically saying everything here about everything wrong with that site in this thread.  We don't care...  If anything, it's good to vent and god knows we all share that common bond in how we feel about over there.

I like how he brought out people's names directly over there...  I'd really think that those attacks openly there, where he knows he can't really do that, would be looked at closely by their site's staff.  I know Rob and efranks have good names there among the membership.  It's only MisterKenobi who they don't like, and who they talk openly about OVER HERE.  I don't know when he'll ever "get it".
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2006, 05:02 PM
. . .back home to Oklahoma. . .

 >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2006, 05:40 PM
PS - Although most of this post was me being sarcastic, have no doubt that I believe Matt is a ******* *******.

Colman's okay once you get used to him.   :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on January 19, 2006, 05:43 PM
Colman's okay once you get used to him. :D

 >:(

. . .back home to Oklahoma. . .

 >:(

I thought you might point that out.  I was originally going to leave OK out of that sentence, but I didn't want anyone to confuse "going home" with meaning just going back to the hotel for the duration, or something like that.  I know many people often refer to their hotels as "home" when they're on trips, vacations, and whatnot.

Certainly wasn't a slam against your fine state though.  Of course, it sounds like your state will be vastly improving in about a week, so you should be thankful for that, at least...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 19, 2006, 05:43 PM
Talk about addition by subtraction...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2006, 05:54 PM
I thought you might point that out.  I was originally going to leave OK out of that sentence, but I didn't want anyone to confuse "going home" with meaning just going back to the hotel for the duration, or something like that.  I know many people often refer to their hotels as "home" when they're on trips, vacations, and whatnot.

Certainly wasn't a slam against your fine state though.

Oh, I know.  I just wanted to reiterate the fact that ****head isn't actually from here, and that nobody here claims him.  In fact, I'm downright embarrased that he's got OKC, OK down for his location.  It reflects very poorly on the rest of us.

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Of course, it sounds like your state will be vastly improving in about a week, so you should be thankful for that, at least...

You have no idea.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Broem on January 19, 2006, 05:58 PM
In other Rebelscum news today apparently Greenday made his way back over there in the form of Chucknutz.  So, might want to be on the alert if it really was him?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on January 19, 2006, 06:05 PM
Oh, I know.  I just wanted to reiterate the fact that ****head isn't actually from here, and that nobody here claims him.  In fact, I'm downright embarrased that he's got OKC, OK down for his location.  It reflects very poorly on the rest of us.

Actually, he currently claims to be "Jackhole", not ****head - but close.  Maybe he'll change it for us when he inevitably returns...

If it helps at all, my best friend from high school lives in OKC (he's from Norman), so that at least counters Katmandu's temporary residence there, at least in my book.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 19, 2006, 06:29 PM
In other Rebelscum news today apparently Greenday made his way back over there in the form of Chucknutz.  So, might want to be on the alert if it really was him?

Chucknutz said benevolent. I don't think GD will ever understand what this word means during the duration of his life. Whether Chucknutz is Greenday or not, I hope he's banned. He's already lied a couple times (see his lame photoshop of the figures he "found" in this thread: http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1627393&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1 )

I bet kreeya is GD though. For registering today, kreeya sure knows a lot about Scum, including who Greenday is without anyone explaining it to him.

What a dumbass.

In other news, GD registered under the name Iron_Maiden289 at Wampa's Cave yesterday. He was banned before his 2nd post. I don't like trash in my house.  8)

I've been trying to be vigilant for him here, and I'll keep in contact with the staff whenever I see something.  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dimetrodon on January 19, 2006, 06:37 PM
you have the option of turning your language filter off here, in your profile somewhere.  I suggest you do it, as the conversation is much more entertaining and colorful that way...

Excellent!

Thank you Matt.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on January 19, 2006, 06:51 PM
Didn't he also get discharged from the Air Force for some reason, injury or something? 

You know, I have to take that back, about not finishing anything and the Air Force.  I was a little pissed when I wrote it and thought better of it between work, when I posted, and home.  If he was in the AF and was injured on the job it still can't take away from the fact that he served.

It still doesn't excuse the fact that he's a, how did Jesse put it, "sopping wet ******bag."  And what did I say about name dropping?  Calling Dustin and Philip into his tirade?  Pure genius.   I've never said word one against Dustin or DBB and although I disagree with how RS is run some times, my problem is more often with the forum rats than anyone else over there.

   E... 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Skyhoucker on January 19, 2006, 07:12 PM
Thought I'd chime in with this... A few days ago, I got a rare PM in my RS PM box... the subject was "Bygons" and it was from MisterKenobi...  This is what it said:

Hey Dan,

I was an *******. With all the noobs around here I lost site of who was who. I would be honored if we could let things be and move on. I'm sure there are things we could agree on more and I aplogize for my ignorance. They're just ******* toys and there's no reason to argue on a toy website.

Friends?

~Matt


I didn't know what to make of it... ::)... I just ignored it.  I wonder what his alterior motive is here... it's not like he'd try to do something like this without benefitting from it somehow...

Besides, if there's no reason to argue on a "toy website", how the hell did he hone his skills so well and get to the point he's at today?  I'll never understand... ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on January 19, 2006, 07:20 PM
Ha.  He sent me something slightly similar to that over at GH, when he stopped by there last year and I told him to get lost.  It wasn't quite that nice, but he was trying to squash things a bit.  But considering all of the other things he was saying at the time elsewhere, it was obviously a load of horse****.

As for his time in the AF, he said something somewhere a while back about having some strange physical ailment that prevented him from actively serving anymore, IIRC.  Now he just takes their money, and sits around watching AOTC every day...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on January 19, 2006, 07:39 PM
Ha.  He sent me something slightly similar to that over at GH, when he stopped by there last year and I told him to get lost.  It wasn't quite that nice, but he was trying to squash things a bit.  But considering all of the other things he was saying at the time elsewhere, it was obviously a load of horse****.

As for his time in the AF, he said something somewhere a while back about having some strange physical ailment that prevented him from actively serving anymore, IIRC.  Now he just takes their money, and sits around watching AOTC every day...  ::)

I got one of those from Mattkatmandu back in the day. It was after the whole Lava Vader inncident, I called him a scalper he called me something, then a day or two later he sent me the came kinda message Skyhoucker got. He said he was sorry and wanted to be my friend. It's funny that back then he was even more of a newb than he is now. He had een there for all of 3 months or so and already was acting like he owned the place because he had a couple hundred posts.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 19, 2006, 07:45 PM
This is an interesting thread: Darth_yaddle (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1627807&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1&vc=1&PHPSESSID=)

 ::)

Edit: There ya go Cosby
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on January 19, 2006, 07:52 PM
Not really....that's one of the dumbest YTMNDs I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2006, 07:55 PM
When are people gonna learn to start linking their ugly, long-ass URLs, so that the whole screen doesn't scroll?

It ain't that difficult.  If I can do it, anyone can.

[ url=http://www.dumblinks.com]"Link" or "Click" or "Whatever you want the name of the link to be"[/url]

Remove the space, and you're all set, which a much nicer-looking link:

"Link" or "Click" or "Whatever you want the name of the link to be" (http://www.dumblinks.com)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mattdude on January 19, 2006, 07:59 PM
Not really....that's one of the dumbest YTMNDs I've ever seen.
That's one of the dumbest things I've seen on the web period, and I've seen a lotta crap out there!

-Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 19, 2006, 08:02 PM
Not really....that's one of the dumbest YTMNDs I've ever seen.

I know the thing is lame, but I found out that rebel_girl is darth_yaddle and warsman11.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Mattdude on January 19, 2006, 08:12 PM
Not really....that's one of the dumbest YTMNDs I've ever seen.

I know the thing is lame, but I found out that rebel_girl is darth_yaddle and warsman11.

Hopefully my comment in that thread hurt her feelings, but somehow I doubt it. :)

-Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on January 19, 2006, 08:27 PM
Did that YTMND freeze anybody else's computer?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 19, 2006, 09:55 PM
Judging by some of the dozens of responses in that thread, I'd say it looks like RS has been overtaken by a class of special needs 12 year olds. I'm not perfect, sometimes I ramble a bit, and I can't spell for **** - but Jesus Christ :

Quote
you call them trolls? your the dumbest and gayest troll ive ever seen. and your stupid to. whos gonna believe your "friend" bought them at wal mart when u have the action hq watermark on the picture? and if you were a mod you have a mod rank. why dont u leave this forum you no good forum space waisting [censored]? oops didnt meen to double post. sorry

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris M on January 19, 2006, 10:04 PM
Didn't he also get discharged from the Air Force for some reason, injury or something?

You know, I have to take that back, about not finishing anything and the Air Force. I was a little pissed when I wrote it and thought better of it between work, when I posted, and home. If he was in the AF and was injured on the job it still can't take away from the fact that he served.


 E...

Eric, I was in the AF and I noticed that very thing in his profile at RS shortly before he became a royal ass.  So I sent him a PM asking about it.  He got a medical discharge I'm guessing shortly after he got to his home station.  I wish I'd kept the PM though.  He did serve for a short while, but with asthma I don't think he should have ever been in.  Just my .02 on him...for now.  I'm not sure if I'd call him a vet though. ::)

Here's his quote in a thread I started about military vets over there last year about this time.
Quote
Former AF Ground Radio Maintenance Technician per Tinker AFB 3rd Combat Comm. Got the boot for asthma and sleep apnea. 60% service connected disability. At 21 I'm retired.

Living off the gov't now.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on January 19, 2006, 10:20 PM
Two questions:

1. What does "YTMND" stand for?

2. What are the odds that...ah, nevermind.

Just one question.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 19, 2006, 10:24 PM
You're the man now, dog!

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on January 19, 2006, 11:31 PM
Have you nto ever seen the greatest ytmnd ever?

http://icmg.ytmnd.com/
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on January 19, 2006, 11:42 PM
That's pretty badass.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2006, 05:11 AM
What a fantastic read.  And what a great number of pages added after only just an evening away.

I seriously have to laugh though...  I love the "They're obsessed with me" defense KitKatFlimFlam pulled over at RS.  The same lame-ass defense every knob has tried since the dawn of the internet when everyone calls them out on douchebaggery. 

I love that he seems to know more about what is going on this thread than anyone knows about what's going on with him anywhere.  Obsessed?  Indeed, but not the way he sees it I guess.

Really, this pain could end if he'd really just be civil, turn over a new leaf, be the stand-up guy and admit that he acted like a dick throughout his early times elsewhere to earn a bad name among his "elder" forum members over yonder.  It's not like the hostility towards him is unwarranted...  He's notorious for attacks, he's notorious for holding grudges, he's arrogant and condescending, he's a troller and flamer at forums he's on...  I'd have more respect if he'd admit the fact that he picked the fights that have earned this reputation for him now...  That he came by this honestly and regretted being the same "idiot noob" he so hates and openly loathes over there.

Either way though, whatever...  He's an angry guy, he can't get his jollies unless someone hates him because he likes stirring **** in a social setting...  He's the girl (in any girl clique) that talks **** behind every one of her friend's backs while watching the chaos ensue, and he enjoys seeing the anger and focus on what he started...  It's why he dumps on people who like the classic trilogy, it's why he dumps on collectors who have complaints, it's why he dumps on anyone...  It's just who he is.  People like that are on all forums, and generally in every social setting anywhere you go.  He's not even the only one of his kind at Scum...  He just makes his voice the most known.

 
I'd like to invite Mister Kenobi back to continue our discussion from last time.

Yes, his "Jackhole" account has indeed been unbanned here.  In fact, it was kind of a mistake that he wound up being banned in the first place, as we were rather excited to be able to chat with him over here.

So Jackhole, please come back and play with us.  We'd love to have you...  :)

- Matt

Matt speaks the truth here btw.

That night Dale/myself/Matt were on and Dale (doing his job) quickly canned MattKattNadam for being a peckerhead.  Everything about his nic and profile was bannable, much less his actions on the forums which were blatantly meant to start a fight here with staff.  So **** happens.  He got canned and left, and I think I quickly reinstated him but he was gone...  Like Matt says though he wasn't meant to be banned and only got re-banned because none of us were around to basically babysit the kid (which he needed).  By all means though, he's welcome to defend himself but from what I saw last time he just came to try and throw a few insults out with the full intent of getting tossed out on his ass right away.  Hardly anything that would compell any of you to read what he said.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 20, 2006, 05:51 PM
douchebaggery. 

What a great word.  I'm going to petition Webster's to add it to their next edition.  :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ook on January 20, 2006, 05:57 PM
douchebaggery. 

What a great word.  I'm going to petition Webster's to add it to their next edition.  :D

It's got my vote! :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on January 20, 2006, 06:53 PM
douchebaggery. 

What a great word.  I'm going to petition Webster's to add it to their next edition.  :D

It's got my vote! :D

Voted.  It's way better than the more widely used "ass hat."

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on January 20, 2006, 06:56 PM
Quote
That night Dale/myself/Matt were on and Dale (doing his job) quickly canned MattKattNadam for being a peckerhead.

I was actually curious about this.  I figured Matt would have been over here responding to all the baiting by now, but I wonder if he will.  Afterall, the "banhammer" is basically dangling over his head.

It's sort of like the kids that go over to RS and say something KNOWING it's about to get them banned.  I've never seen the merit in that....or wanted to do it myself.  Maybe this is a rare instance of Matt showing some restraint?


I know if I were him and a bunch of guys were talking crap about me on a site they basically control....it would suck, because I'd know the second I got to them, they could just ban me.  Or edit my posts.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2006, 08:08 PM
Well, to Dale's defense KitKatGodDamn came in swinging...  It wasn't like he came here to actually make a defense or anything, he just came with all guns bristling so it was in basically the hope he would get canned I guess.  His profile even was just set up to be insulting.

Dale just saw it and reacted since he knew the guy was a douche, knew who it was right away...  It was an automatic reaction, but Matt (JediMAC) of all people was the one who really wanted to give KitKatGodDamn an opportunity to come in and defend himself as he saw fit (but I assume keep it to this thread since we don't want him cluttering the rest of the place up with his ****).  There was brief interaction between Matt and KitKat and I think I maybe said something but Dale's reaction caused him to leave and not try coming back...  Then I just took the reigns and banned him because I just frankly wanted to go to bed and not have to babysit him.

As the guys have said, he's allowed in to make his case or respond now, that's been their call and I don't mind either since it's more fair than anything and his ban was a mistake somewhat in the first place...  So that's just where things stand I guess.  He's now more mad it seems with efranks and Rob than anything. :)  He can fight with them at Scum I guess if he does it when a mod isn't around.  They're there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on January 20, 2006, 08:23 PM
Just so you guys know, Matt told me that since he is moving he won't be able to get online till Monday.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 20, 2006, 11:43 PM
...it would suck, because I'd know the second I got to them, they could just ban me.  Or edit my posts.  ;D

There's a less-than-zero percent chance of him 'getting' to any of us. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on January 21, 2006, 01:18 AM
Where's he moving to "back east?"  Because I'm really hoping it's nowhere near me.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 21, 2006, 02:34 AM
DC/VA/MD area E, I had seen him mentioning it over there...  Not up your way.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: RenegadeJedi on January 21, 2006, 02:42 AM
So whatever became of Jimbo???

MattQuackNadam you are my beatch...you just don't know it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 21, 2006, 12:30 PM
Possibly this:

Along the same lines, you guys might find this amusing. A few months ago, Jimbo was just doing his thing, getting in, complaining about peoples attitudes, opinions, knowledge, etc. I can't remember the thread, but every other post was just him beratting various people. It went on for pages. Finally, some realatively new person stood up and said something to the effect of, "who the hell are you anyway?" and started to lay into him in a really intellegent way. Then, everyone else started chiming in with "yeah!..." It was awesome. Jimbo went away.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jackhole on January 22, 2006, 03:23 PM
Hey guys!

Sorry I haven't been around to answer your calls.  I've had more interesting things to do now that I'm not in the most uneventful city and state in the country (OKC, OK - Burchall you can have it back! :o)

Lucky for you all, between moving and gearing up for my second child, finding a new school to attend and a new job, I won't have time to put my balls on your chin as much anymore.  Sorry.  So I'll try to make this short and sweet as to not make you endure the pain of farewells for too long.

Zod - show the rest of the picture in your avatar, you know the part where you're trying to fit my pud into your mouth, but it's much too long and girthy and it's making you gag :o

Skyhoucker - I figured I'd go out on a limb, be the bigger man, but it seems you, just like your fearless leader here, aren't mature enough to just let things go.  Posting here was also a huge display of your ability to handle a grown-up situation.

and besides MAC, none of the rest of you have any reason to talk **** to me other than to be a part of the queue like the rest of the lemmings.

A few more things of note.  I know you will say and think what you want, but I'm going to be totally honest here to clear up the truth about some things and what you choose to do with it is up to you.  If you'd rather post gross exaggerations for ***** and giggles than have at it, but knowing the truth you'll just be a ******* moron if you do.

C3 - Yup, had a few drinks, and coincedentally I got very ill the same night.  I was breathalyzed (sp?) by the EMTs and I blew only a .07, which is a very obvious indicator that I was not even drunk, much less had alcohol poisoning.  I was taken to the emergency room and rehydrated, and was told that I was sick because of dehydration caused by the flu.  I went home, not because I was sick, but because I missed the 2 most important things I came for - opening ceremonies and the GL thing.  So given the letdown of that, the fact that I'd seen everything else there was to see the first day, I decided to save my money and head home.  I didn't really fit in with the crowd at the convention center anyways.

The marriage thread - once again, I understand that this would be great fun for you all to twist and laugh about, but try to be mature and not so self-loathing that you wish I was down on your level.  There is a very MASSIVE difference between losing the spark in a relationship, and being cautious to PREVENT the spark from ever going out.  I have not, nor do I currently have marital problems, and if I did I seriously would not post them on a SW internet message board.  Just like Philip said, you all need to get a life.  Perhaps if you had been with a woman for more than 5 minutes, much less 5 years, you'd know what I was talking about.

Air Force - I am indeed an AF vet, and regardless of whether or not I am collecting a considerable disability pension and a 100% paid scholarship to the college of my choice, I signed up and offered my life to serve my country, which takes more balls than any of you have, minus the one or 2 of you that may have, but none of you seem to be here bashing me anyways.  And I don't feel the least bit bad about it.  I enlisted in the AF at 18 for a career to support my wife and kids, but I was robbed of that opportunity with a medical discharge 2 years later, and now the AF/ Veterans' Affairs are making sure I still get that opportunity.

That said, have fun, happy trails, and **** off.

Love always
Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 22, 2006, 04:20 PM
Zod - show the rest of the picture in your avatar, you know the part where you're trying to fit my pud into your mouth, but it's much too long and girthy and it's making you gag :o

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/full_picture.jpg)

 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on January 22, 2006, 05:39 PM
If they ever made a movie about a pot calling a kettle black, I think this Jackhole fellow would be the perfect choice for the pot. He tells us all to grow up and "get a life", yet he pretty much calls Rob gay, and uses that tired statement about JD members never having been with a woman for more than 5 minutes.

And the Jackhole username certainly does wonders for your maturitity status.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on January 22, 2006, 05:40 PM
My girlfriend and I have been together for over 6 years now.  I'm not running around Watto's or Wuher's looking for relationship advice - but that's just me...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on January 22, 2006, 05:44 PM
I've asked for relationship in Watto's, because people in Watto's have actually had a relationship or two.

I didn't ask at a forum  where the max of their population is 13-15 year olds who can't spell and their only response is constant bitching and/or "yeah! lol! r u crzy!"

And I'm fairly certain and much as Rob isn't my favorite person, he wouldn't let you put your dick in his mouth. He's got far better tastes.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 22, 2006, 07:04 PM
Hmm. Besides his fantasy of getting a blowjob from another man, how homosexual is it for a guy to provide an overly detailed description of his fantasy **** to a group of other guys?

So, uh... Do you pretend your wife is a man?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on January 22, 2006, 07:06 PM
Guess who has had enough...


Me.
Title: Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on February 10, 2006, 10:11 AM
Are we allowed to discuss Rebelscum topics here, if we ALL agree to play nice?  The other thread was locked.   :'(


If so, then let me begin this new thread by posting a link to our local San Antonio thread at RS: Click Here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1439221&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=11&vc=1)
(Edit:  I fixed your link SA, it was goofed up...  JJ)

Begin reading the posts dated February 9th.

It got pretty nasty (yet funny) yesterday since these two guys, OBIWANJABRONI and IGOTASMALLFACE, began posting last year, openly talking about scalping.  Sure enough, these guys posted on eBay the two C3PO variants for $20. 

The problem is the SA forum has no official "Moderator" assigned to our thread.  So I doubt anything will be done to these guys, and all of us local collectors have abandoned the thread.

I did invite all of my SA friends to join JD , tho... :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2006, 10:38 AM
More scalping openly at the old "Collect to Collect" originators eh?  Who'd a thunk that?

Nice.   ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 10, 2006, 12:04 PM
Apparently the same thing happened to the Los Angeles page a while back. People either started bragging too much about scalping or were way to agressive in using the store reports and everyone just stopped posting. The LA page went away for a long time.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on February 10, 2006, 01:25 PM
Its funny you guys mention that,  because a friend told me that the Florida threads turned to **** because of people blatantly scalping too. I guess those sections are just unmodded. I wouldn't really know though, since Scum still hasn't put in an Indiana section  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Cory Chaos on February 10, 2006, 02:32 PM
Frankly, I think you guys should let it go. About 75% of the JD members are RS defectors, and we all did it for the same reason. Starting threads, beating the same old dead horse, belly-aching over Rebelscum's demise and perpetual downfall is pointless. Gossipping is for old ladies at beauty salons.

Let's just..stop.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on February 10, 2006, 03:02 PM
Yeah, I agree - when we post topics about RS it looks like we miss the place.

Maybe we should treat RS like we do politics.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on February 10, 2006, 04:34 PM
Frankly, I think you guys should let it go. About 75% of the JD members are RS defectors, and we all did it for the same reason. Starting threads, beating the same old dead horse, belly-aching over Rebelscum's demise and perpetual downfall is pointless. Gossipping is for old ladies at beauty salons.

Let's just..stop.

Agreed. I know a lot of people here, myself included, couldn't care less what happens at RS, discuss RS at RS.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on February 10, 2006, 05:16 PM
discuss RS at RS.

Easier said than done.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: SilverZ on February 10, 2006, 05:37 PM
I'm no fan of RS, and rarely post about it, but, on the flip side, am happy that there is an outlet to discuss it on the web in a relatively civilized way. Someday I may have the need. Where else on the net can the Scum lurkers come to see what people really think, anyway, without being able to censor, lock, or delete the criticism?

Personally, I’d say those that don’t want to post about it are free to not engage the thread. Those that do should try not to make it too personal with opposing opinions. Healthy discussion is a good thing.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on February 10, 2006, 08:14 PM
I think the Claasified/Trading section is by far in the worst shape Ive seen it. When people post things they are selling/trading others just go in there to rip on them. Its pathetic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on February 10, 2006, 08:51 PM
discuss RS at RS.

Easier said than done.

Not if you're singing their praises - that's super-easy.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Cory Chaos on February 11, 2006, 02:56 PM
I'm no fan of RS, and rarely post about it, but, on the flip side, am happy that there is an outlet to discuss it on the web in a relatively civilized way.

Healthy discussion is a good thing.

With a handful of the threads pertaining to RS having been closed because they got out of hand, that's just all the more reason to get rid of the RS hang-up's. It's hard to imagine what's left for everyone to bitch about, though, seriously. Granted, I don't participate as much as I did back 5 years ago when I joined RS and eventually JD, but when I swing by the WJY nowadays, the Rebelscum pity thread is always hopping.

I think it's a waste of time to gawk and gab about how it's a shell of the forums we once knew. Post here, point out instances where they're failing...and then what? That's it? Don't see what's so hard about turning away from a 3 year old car wreck that's figuratively rusting away and moving on.

My adivce? Be glad JD isn't in the same state, learn from Rebelscum's mistakes, and push THIS SITE and THESE FORUMS into the forefront, so that it eventually eclipse RS. It's much more satisfying, and productive, than continuously pointing and laughing, which doesn't produce anything for either site other than fodder for a potential forum war. Again.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 5, 2006, 06:02 PM
Rebelscum revised it's privacy policy, here's the link. (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Privacy_Policy_Revision_97432.asp)

I may be a little slow, but isn't this a revision of the policy that got everyone here banned?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 5, 2006, 06:13 PM
"It no longer allows for use of registered emails and/or addresses for advertising or marketing purposes by external parties, whether paid or for free.

We may create an opt-in list in the future, but it will be separately maintained from all other registrations."

 ???

I can't even figure out what that means.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Sithbaker on March 5, 2006, 06:16 PM
They won`t sell/give your info anymore. Looks like they will have a time when
people can sign up to get email offers (cough)spam(cough).
I think this was what got everyone in an uproar last year when TRU mass emailed
all RS users, heyna?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 5, 2006, 06:18 PM
I was actually thinking about that the other day...

When there was the huge bitch fest about RS here up to a few weeks ago, I was wondering who actually remembered that it all started because of the email they sent and PW's response.

Oh well, too little too late.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ben on March 5, 2006, 06:49 PM
I guess all the money to be made from ROTS for RS has been made.
Title: RS - Gotta laugh at this
Post by: CHEWIE on March 13, 2006, 05:35 PM
With the high traffic Scum gets, there's always some idiots.  Many, many idiots.  Check out this thread started in the customs section there -

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1751876&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1751876 

subject - trade

text - i want a head and a neck


Just typical immaturity, but I had to laugh at how stupid this was.  This guy PM'd me last week saying he was another member's brother (I think both of them are the notorious Greenday) and then called me an ******* when I asked who he was.

Anyways, just thought it was hilarious.

 :P
Title: Re: RS - Gotta laugh at this
Post by: Famine on March 13, 2006, 05:53 PM
I want head too.

But I don't make threads about it.

Kevin
Title: Re: RS - Gotta laugh at this
Post by: Clone Commander on March 13, 2006, 06:07 PM
LoL.
Jeez that made me laugh!  :)

Funny.
By the way who is Greenday?
Title: Re: RS - Gotta laugh at this
Post by: Smartypants1635 on March 13, 2006, 06:51 PM
I just saw that after I answered Coeli's reply to my thread. That kid is a total idiot, most likely Greenday once more. ::)
oh and CC greenday 101 is a complete troll, just stick around you'll eventually read a thread once in a while that he starts. He has posted under the names "Rebel girl" "Stormie 45","greenday101" his first SN and many others.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on March 13, 2006, 07:58 PM
That is 100% GREENDAY.

article 1
HE claims he is new but yet he Knows of RE photonovels, and asked in a brand new thread how many people like it.

article 2

After telling him that we are not gonna hold his hand and that he needed to be more specific about what parts he needed he sent me a PM that is made up of one word. F***er, and the title was YOU A** hole.

article 3

minutes after reading that message he sends me a PM that says "******* you **** youer mom :D :D :D " exactly how he spelled it. ::)
All I said in reply is that you brain must have over heated in coming up with that. Once again the stupidity of Greenday is shown.

At FFURG many people got messages like this for trying to get him under control. It just shows how immature he is, and how few brain cells he has to come up with F***er
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on March 13, 2006, 08:14 PM
Sorry Smarty, yeah that kid has issues.  I'm sure it's Greenday too.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on March 13, 2006, 08:31 PM
Why are you sorry. IT's hillarious  :D :D :D. you should join in blasting him over at scum. thats the only thing its good for. :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on March 13, 2006, 09:56 PM
Question: Why does anyone even raise an eyebrow at Greenday, The Subpar Troll? I'll conceed that he's annoying, but is he really more so than any of the other folks there who exhibit similar posting habits? I'd suppose that since I seldom post there, I'm not effected by any supposed problem presented by Greenday, The Subpar Troll, and hence feel a disconnect to the outrage and uproar he typically creates.
So what's the deal, why do ya'll care?
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Ben on March 14, 2006, 03:14 AM
Well, he can't be any worse than previous SW Fan Club presidents... (http://www.rebelscum.com/dlr06.asp)
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Matt on March 14, 2006, 06:03 AM
Well, he can't be any worse than previous SW Fan Club presidents... (http://www.rebelscum.com/dlr06.asp)

If that means less of him at Rebelscum, I'm all for it.

Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2006, 06:17 AM
I wonder if everyone would be randomly kicked out of the Fan Club for nothing then?
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Chris on March 14, 2006, 07:02 AM
That is a funny joke.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on March 14, 2006, 10:54 AM
I'm not offended by him, I'm just amazed as how absurd he is.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on March 14, 2006, 10:57 AM
I'm not offended by him, I'm just amazed as how absurd he is.

Nothing offends this wookiee except chicks with dicks.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 14, 2006, 12:54 PM

At FFURG many people got messages like this for trying to get him under control. It just shows how immature he is, and how few brain cells he has to come up with F***er

I'm always amused when folks don't know what to say so they come up with a very common cussword like *******, ******, dick, ect. It does show a lack of maturity as well as a lack of an imagination. Some folks respond to negative criticism this way as well- they're just to immature to handle it ::). Yes, it is funny ;D
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Tracy on March 14, 2006, 01:34 PM
I wonder if everyone would be randomly kicked out of the Fan Club for nothing then?
No -- they'd probably be kicked out just for mentioning another fan club........... ;)
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: ruiner on March 14, 2006, 01:51 PM
Well, he can't be any worse than previous SW Fan Club presidents... (http://www.rebelscum.com/dlr06.asp)

Why do I get the feeling that Dustin just thinks he's cool?

Edit:  I answered my own question:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/images/dlrpres-title2.gif)

And why the hell should I use him as a referral when he's done absolutely nothing for me? 
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: name on March 14, 2006, 02:29 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/name7574/douchebagv2.jpg)
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Tracy on March 14, 2006, 02:37 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/name7574/douchebagv2.jpg)

****!  I just choked on my Diet Dr. Pepper -- thanks!  >:(

 ;D
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: name on March 14, 2006, 02:54 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/name7574/douchebagv3.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: name on March 14, 2006, 03:00 PM
You're such a ******* dick.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on March 14, 2006, 03:13 PM
Lol. Well, I tried to help him out, but after hearing you guys's dealings with him, I think he's Greenday. It's just that the Nicholai user name threw me off. He hasn't sent a PM so I think he's banned again. What a complete and total loser. It's starting to get funny how pathetic he is.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: name on March 14, 2006, 03:24 PM
Question: Why does anyone even raise an eyebrow at Greenday, The Subpar Troll? I'll conceed that he's annoying, but is he really more so than any of the other folks there who exhibit similar posting habits? I'd suppose that since I seldom post there, I'm not effected by any supposed problem presented by Greenday, The Subpar Troll, and hence feel a disconnect to the outrage and uproar he typically creates.
So what's the deal, why do ya'll care?

Well, from a forum staff perspective, he's a pain because if you ban him, he has the ability to create a new account under a new IP address.  And then he uses those multiple ID's to start weird arguments with himself. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on March 14, 2006, 03:40 PM
You're such a ******* dick.

Dude, stop being immature and show some imagination!

;-)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 14, 2006, 04:06 PM
You're such a ******* dick.

Dude, stop being immature and show some imagination!

;-)

yeah, grow up already ::) :P
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 14, 2006, 04:31 PM
I like it..imaginative and funny! :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on March 14, 2006, 10:10 PM
I love REbelscums vote for Dustin thing, bah!!! If that happens, then Rebel Scum will have control of the universe.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on March 14, 2006, 10:12 PM
Please enlighten me on this.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on March 14, 2006, 10:24 PM
It's the new special feature thing on the front page. You can't miss it.  :P
(If you are blind though, then I am sorry, because there is a 99.9876134% chance that I offended you.)
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Ben on March 14, 2006, 10:28 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/name7574/douchebagv3.jpg)

Post of the day.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on March 14, 2006, 10:30 PM
I don't go to Rebelscum, so in a sense, I am blind to their mainpage works.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on March 14, 2006, 10:36 PM
"If it can't be branded, I say it's of no use to me!"-Dustin


Well, that says it all, right there.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nathan on March 15, 2006, 12:17 AM
I'm always amused when folks don't know what to say so they come up with a very common cussword like *******, ******, dick, ect. It does show a lack of maturity as well as a lack of an imagination. Some folks respond to negative criticism this way as well- they're just to immature to handle it ::). Yes, it is funny ;D

You're such a ******* dick.

Dude, stop being immature and show some imagination!

;-)

Totally. You gotta get more creative with your profanity, like me--"sh*****ch", "cocktard", and "****sandwich" are three of my proudest creations.


"If it can't be branded, I say it's of no use to me!"-Dustin

Well, that says it all, right there.

Kevin

To be fair, that "campaign speech" wasn't intended entirely in seriousness....
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on March 15, 2006, 10:23 AM
That doesn't make it any less true.

Kevin
Title: Re: Stupid **** From the Internet Thread.
Post by: Scott on March 16, 2006, 12:05 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/name7574/douchebagv3.jpg)
This may be the post of the year!  I rarely LOL at things, but this one, I actually did :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 17, 2006, 06:26 PM
I suppose this is a fine place to post this...

Quote
Thank the maker I found someone else who thinks Willrow is a waste; I've taken quite the bashing on another forum because I referred to him as a "douche." I even got a PM threatening my family.

Check out the Willrow shill thread thread at Jedidefender if you get a chance...or as I like to call it, NAZI GERMANY. 

-DD

What a paradox (not to mention a straight-up bitch move), to go to Rebelscum of all places, to call Jedi Defender Nazi Germany...

Family threatened? bull****.


Title: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Ian_C on March 20, 2006, 11:26 AM
Well, seems like RS is trying to get Dustin to be the next Fan Club President.

I'm cool with that, BUT not cool with the way it's being promoted. 

Dustin For President link (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1752673&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1752673)

The post will make more sense if you click on the 'learn how to help' link in the first post.

Now, here's a copy of my post there, which I expect will be removed from RS.

Quote
Sorry to derail the thread Dustin, and if you delete this, I will fully understand.

Nothing against you - you have my support in every way except the $50 it costs us in Canada to subscribe.  :mad:

However, Philip's post today has pissed me off.

On the main page:

Quote
I gotta say, I'm underwhelmed by the subscriptions...

In the report:

Quote
It's time to get out the support.

Those with current subscriptions, you can renew now and it will tack on your subscription to the end of your current term.

Can't afford it? That's not so unusual with all the stuff we have to buy for our collections; give one away as a gift to a friend, or ask for one for your birthday. Get it early even.

Or, go wear out your friends and have them sign up.

We need to get this thing moving!

And, finally, from the Campaign page.

Quote
How can I help?
You can help spread the word by grabbing a campaign banner and throwing it up on your website. Simply right-click and choose "save as" to download them to your desktop. Then link the banner back up to the official DLR campaign headquarters (this page). No website? Use this limited-edition campaign avatar in the forum!


Okay.....

I am NOT begging for a subscription to an expensive website fanclub for my birthday.  Asking a friend to give me a $50 US gift out of the blue is ridiculous.  If I or my friends were that rich to just throw away $50 ata  time, I'd be joining up for the hell of it.

Finally, and my biggest complaint here, is that the request is to advertise this campaign on other websites, but Philip's own rules will ban you if you advertise another website here.  Is that hypocritical or what?

Sorry, Philip, I normally do not like to say negaitive things about RS or you publically, but these comments are a pure joke.

Again, I want to make it 100% clear that I am in full support of Dustin's bid for Fan Club President.  I just hate the method of getting him there, and the pure hypocrisy in Philip's statements about advertising sites.

Ian

What does everyone else think of this BS?

Ian
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 20, 2006, 11:29 AM
I think I've failed Phil by not signing up to vote for Dustin.

 :'(
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2006, 11:33 AM
I think your thread title is spelled wrong....   ;D
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Ian_C on March 20, 2006, 11:35 AM
Thanks Josh...corrected.

Ian
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on March 20, 2006, 11:40 AM
His post is the reason for no referrals.

Jesus, what an ass....begging for referrals so he can put "president" on a resume!   :P
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 20, 2006, 11:45 AM
I dunno, I think this isn't as big a deal.  Doesn't RS have sponsorship deals with the people that Dustin's linking to?  If so, they wouldn't have any issue with that.

On a surface level, I'd expect nothing less than all the campaign hoopla since one of their main employees is in the running - as obnoxious as it is, and as little as I'd think anyone would be in the whole thing, I don't fault them too much for pushing their own guy.

Although the newspost by Phillip sure does smell like b.s.

Quote
Dustin For President
Posted by Philip on March 20, 2006 at 09:39 AM CST:
It's time to get out the support.

Those with current subscriptions, you can renew now and it will tack on your subscription to the end of your current term.

Can't afford it? That's not so unusual with all the stuff we have to buy for our collections; give one away as a gift to a friend, or ask for one for your birthday. Get it early even.

Or, go wear out your friends and have them sign up.

We need to get this thing moving!

Read all about the campaign here.

Join or renew here.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 20, 2006, 11:46 AM
Is anyone running against him?
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Ian_C on March 20, 2006, 11:49 AM
I dunno, I think this isn't as big a deal.  Doesn't RS have sponsorship deals with the people that Dustin's linking to?  If so, they wouldn't have any issue with that.


Rob, the bigger issue is in the campaign thread itself.  He wants us to link this to other sites, but when was the last time RS allowed people to link other sites on their forum?

Ian
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2006, 12:00 PM
Quote
He wants us to link this to other sites, but when was the last time RS allowed people to link other sites on their forum?

We've always been allowed to link to other sites at RS.  Photos of our collections, costumes, some cool little news article we found.

We just can't link to Rebelscum competitors over there.


As for Dustin's campaigned, he's running on BEHALF of Rebelscum, so I can't fault them for pimping it.   I actually hope he wins, but until today, I actually thought the whole thing was a goof.  I didn't know he was serious about it....and that RS actually expected people would throw down 40 bucks just to help Dustin win.

I like Dustin, I hope he wins......but I'm not throwing 40 dollars down to that website to help him. 
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 20, 2006, 12:01 PM
Is anyone running against him?

Here are the current poll results (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html).
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Ian_C on March 20, 2006, 12:14 PM
Is anyone running against him?

Here are the current poll results (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html).

So, that means that if, say, GreenDay101 were to have 10 people sign up and refer to him, he'd be the next Fan Club President?

That's the worst way to reward someone with the Official Fan Club's Presidency I've ever heard of.

Ian
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 20, 2006, 12:24 PM
That IS the dumbest thing I've ever heard of... I could shell out 350 bucks and make 7 fake accounts right now and be the frontrunner?  Yikes.  That's about the same amount of money I'd spend on a plane ticket to Comic Con anyway - and they'll cover it if I win.

Vote for me everyone!
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 20, 2006, 12:29 PM
Is anyone running against him?

Here are the current poll results (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/prez2006.html).

So, that means that if, say, GreenDay101 were to have 10 people sign up and refer to him, he'd be the next Fan Club President?

That's the worst way to reward someone with the Official Fan Club's Presidency I've ever heard of.

Ian

I agree, thats a horrible way to chose the president.

I was curious to find out exactly what the president does, and basically if Dustin wins, he gets an all expenses paid trip to the San Diego Comic Con, a gift basket full of collectibles, and an article in the Insider. More info can be found here (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/news20060210.html)

So basically what everyone is voting for is to give Dustin some toys and a trip to San Diego.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on March 20, 2006, 12:44 PM
That IS the dumbest thing I've ever heard of... I could shell out 350 bucks and make 7 fake accounts right now and be the frontrunner?  Yikes. That's about the same amount of money I'd spend on a plane ticket to Comic Con anyway - and they'll cover it if I win.

Vote for me everyone!


Actually Rob you're onto something here....how many members are here at JD?  I doubt it's close to 350, but let's assume it's half.

If we each pooled together $2 we could get someone from JD to win.

In the end, it'd be great advertising for JD....for $350 one of the staff members could go to Comic Con and report on the news.  And let's not forget about the exposure in the Insider! 

That's worth $350 right there!

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 20, 2006, 01:13 PM
We should nominate someone to represent the site... It'd be nice to at least have someone in the running using a @jedidefender.com tagline. Hell, I'd actually buy Hyperspace.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on March 20, 2006, 01:16 PM
Really, the staff should get together and discuss.

Don't let RS get the spotlight.

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Nathan on March 20, 2006, 01:31 PM
Indeed. My current subscription expires this week; when I renew I'd be more than happy to throw a referral on board for the JD candidate.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: delvec on March 20, 2006, 01:33 PM
Sorry guys first post in a long time but I read PW's post today and knew where to go to get comments-

I had actually thought of doing something like Dustin did just as promotion for my site. Once I saw his little plea, I entertained the thought of "running against him" and campaigning as a joke saying a vote for me is one against Scum's attempts to take over the SW Universe since he had his mitts in everything else SW. I kinda dropped the idea because while it was a joke, PW, probably would've threatened me to fire myself(long story!). But after reading PW's cocky post today, I really do wanna do this.

Being a friend of JD since day, if you guys wanted to throw some support my way- I would do it.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on March 20, 2006, 01:41 PM
If we could get one of the more prominent JD staff members to run, I think we'd have a chance to represent the coolest SW site on the net!

 8)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JayDouble on March 20, 2006, 01:49 PM
If we could get one of the more prominent JD staff members to run, I think we'd have a chance to represent the coolest SW site on the net!

 8)

I nominate Colman.   :P
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 20, 2006, 01:54 PM
If we could get one of the more prominent JD staff members to run, I think we'd have a chance to represent the coolest SW site on the net!

 8)

I nominate Colman.   :P

Seconded  ;)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on March 20, 2006, 01:55 PM
Jeez, I would too but I have not seen him for awhile....

Then again, we need someone who isn't goofy looking  ;) - we can't let the general public think the site is run by a bunch of ugly *******.

 :o
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 20, 2006, 02:00 PM
Jeez, I would too but I have not seen him for awhile....

Then again, we need someone who isn't goofy looking  ;) - we can't let the general public think the site is run by a bunch of ugly *******.

 :o


I nominate Travis for forum member of the year.  :D
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Tracy on March 20, 2006, 02:07 PM
Jeez, I would too but I have not seen him for awhile....

Then again, we need someone who isn't goofy looking  ;) - we can't let the general public think the site is run by a bunch of ugly *******.

 :o

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jwall/pics/2000_Feb_Bald_or_Bust_1.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: BillCable on March 20, 2006, 02:24 PM
We need to rally around a hot chick.  I nominate...

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d59/liannb/Mall%20Walk/2006_0311mallwalk0020.jpg)

Anybody want to pop over to Snowtroopers and propose to her?

Propose the idea...   ;)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 20, 2006, 02:53 PM
It shouldn't be colman - he lives right down the street from Comic Con.

NOMINATE ME!!!

I could run under my old Zod monicker...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/zod-4-prez-small.jpg)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2006, 03:02 PM
I actually contemplated trying to get some sponsors after I saw the prizes one would get....but I doubt I could compete with the Rebelscum machine.

However....it made for an interesting question.  What if someone else did run?  Could they promote their campaign on RS?  I know someone "from JD" probably couldn't....but what if I did?   

Everyone knows I love that site.  So if I "ran" (and I'm only being hypothetical here), would I get in trouble for mentioning it at Rebelscum?
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 20, 2006, 03:04 PM
I actually contemplated trying to get some sponsors after I saw the prizes one would get....but I doubt I could compete with the Rebelscum machine.

However....it made for an interesting question.  What if someone else did run?  Could they promote their campaign on RS?  I know someone "from JD" probably couldn't....but what if I did?   

Everyone knows I love that site.  So if I "ran" (and I'm only being hypothetical here), would I get in trouble for mentioning it at Rebelscum?

There would be the ultimate hypocrisy if (even a JD member) couldn't mention their candidacy for the SW.com fan club president position.  That person wouldn't be advertising JD, they'd be advertising themselves.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 20, 2006, 03:11 PM
I actually contemplated trying to get some sponsors after I saw the prizes one would get....but I doubt I could compete with the Rebelscum machine.

However....it made for an interesting question.  What if someone else did run?  Could they promote their campaign on RS?  I know someone "from JD" probably couldn't....but what if I did?   

Everyone knows I love that site.  So if I "ran" (and I'm only being hypothetical here), would I get in trouble for mentioning it at Rebelscum?

I'm sure they wouldn't welcome it with open arms. Afterall, Dustin's more or less running as Rebelscum.

Never-the-less, the nation of Latveria supports you, Josh and Zod.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 20, 2006, 03:32 PM
I actually contemplated trying to get some sponsors after I saw the prizes one would get....but I doubt I could compete with the Rebelscum machine.



Don't be too sure Josh. You, Rob or Matt would have my support if any of you decided to run.

What's with the money needed anyway?
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 20, 2006, 03:39 PM
I actually contemplated trying to get some sponsors after I saw the prizes one would get....but I doubt I could compete with the Rebelscum machine.



Don't be too sure Josh. You, Rob or Matt would have my support if any of you decided to run.


That is true. Dustin is losing afterall.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2006, 03:46 PM
Philip just answered my question about whether or not I'd be allowed to in the affirmative.

That sort of puts this whole thing to bed for me. 

I don't think it's misuse of Rebelscum to assist Dustin (a loyal staff member) in winning that election.  Philip is simply pimping his friend's campaign and I can't fault him for that.  Especially after he said another forum member running wouldn't be breaking any rules either.


Seems like it's all in fun after all.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on March 20, 2006, 03:48 PM
It was 'all in fun' until Mr. Wise took it too serious and posted his "underwhelming" post.

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2006, 03:59 PM
My favorite part is the fact that the "Join or renew here" link in his newspost is not a link to the Hyperspace sign-up page at the Official Site.

It's a link to the Hyperspace sign up via ShopStarWars.  That way, he can use his ad referral code to make sure that he gets a cut of your $40 subscription fee for himself.  Savvy marketing once again...

 ::)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Ian_C on March 20, 2006, 04:09 PM
My favorite part is the fact that the "Join or renew here" link in his newspost is not a link to the Hyperspace sign-up page at the Official Site.

It's a link to the Hyperspace sign up via ShopStarWars.  That way, he can use his ad referral code to make sure that he gets a cut of your $40 subscription fee for himself.  Savvy marketing once again...

 ::)


Nice catch, Jeff.

Kinda explains the whole promotional aspect of it from RS...

Ian
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Chris on March 20, 2006, 04:28 PM
There is no fun in anything at RebelScum. Dustin is running for RebelScum and TheForce.net. Period. Dustin isn't just Dustin, he is Dustin of RebelScum and TF.N. This is purely a promotion for RebelScum, and they are using Dustin as their frontman. The "RebelScum machine" (::)) has what, 4 subscriptions... WOW.  ::)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 20, 2006, 04:46 PM
So let's nominate a JD person, who will get more votes than Dustin and we'll have another person at Comic Con who may not have been able to make it.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 20, 2006, 05:13 PM
I was talking with Kevin last night, we were guessing as to how much it'll cost Philip to buy this one...

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Darthshader on March 20, 2006, 05:30 PM
 ;D

I REALLY want to go to SDCC, and would love for someone else to pay for it. Anyone want to vote for me? I would be glad to tell LFL what a waste of $$$ HyperSpace is, and would work for NO MORE REHaSHES from Hasbro! (does that sound like a campaign promise or what?) :P

All in fun....
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2006, 05:40 PM
Quote
I was talking with Kevin last night, we were guessing as to how much it'll cost Philip to buy this one...

Well..that's really the question isn't it?  How much is it actually WORTH and is someone going to pay that price?

Perhaps like an Ebay auction, towards the last day you'll see some dude sign up 20 fake memberships just for the prize.  It would be nice if Dustin won without having to partake in that sort of fraud, but only time will tell how it actually plays out.


I can say that the idea to run appealed me earlier this morning, not just for the prize....but for the opportunity to be the President of the Fan Club.  Imagine if there was a president who would actually publicly state what a crock of **** Hyperspace is.

That would be my campaign platform if I ran.   ;D
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 20, 2006, 05:55 PM
I can say that the idea to run appealed me earlier this morning, not just for the prize....but for the opportunity to be the President of the Fan Club. 

I think it would be fun too, but I'd do it for all the chicks I would get.  :-*
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 20, 2006, 06:20 PM
Everyone wants a Canadian President...DSJ? :D

My subscription ran out just after ROTS...I'd be willing to sign up again if someone I knew from JD ran.

Kevvo...entrepreneur? Sandwich Shop Owner-Operator/President?
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: name on March 20, 2006, 06:25 PM
That would be Prhesident.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Ryan on March 20, 2006, 06:27 PM
That jhoke is ghetting old.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 20, 2006, 06:46 PM
Stop it ghuys.

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Tracy on March 20, 2006, 07:35 PM
I think it would be fun too, but I'd do it for all the chicks I would get.  :-*

(http://krautboy.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/starwars15.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 20, 2006, 07:43 PM
I knew it...

You are heartless. ;)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Famine on March 20, 2006, 07:52 PM
Everyone wants a Canadian President...DSJ? :D


Kevvo...entrepreneur? Sandwich Shop Owner-Operator/President?

Who want's a Canadian president? They don't even have a president themselves.

I don't have a HS account to begin with, let alone one to be used as a referal for.

Sorry guys.

I'd love to go to the con, though. :P

Kevin
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: name on March 20, 2006, 08:19 PM
I think it would be fun too, but I'd do it for all the chicks I would get.  :-*

(http://krautboy.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/starwars15.jpg)

 :-*


Fantastic.  Four to six weeks 'til the next erection now.  Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 20, 2006, 08:32 PM
I'm posting this here because I think its a great post that may be edited/deleted.

By tykrazen in the Dustin for Fan Club Prez! thread:

Philip,

I think your statement really brings into clarity why some members of the collecting community are feeling alientated from Rebelscum. You view running Rebelscum as a business whereas many of the sites who are distancing themselves are run as FAN sites with no desire to behave like a business.

The evidence of the underlying philosophy of Rebelscum as a business is overwhelming. The fact that news articles are laced with advertisement links is a clear indicator. Your analogy of Rebelscum to a for profit network also demonstrates that concept. The short lived practice of 3rd party e-mails is another testament.

There is nothing wrong with that... provided you recognize that run as a business, the community at Rebelscum are CUSTOMERS. To make a statement such as you did on the front page today clearly crossed that line. Does NBC tell viewers they are dissapointed no one tuned into Joey? They would recognize instantly that is bad business.

Philip, I know you are a very sharp business man -- you would not have accomplished all that you have if you were not. Part of the reason Dustin for President is not going as you have hoped is because Hyperspace is a bad product. And by pushing the sale of an inferior product, you are cheapening what brand respect there is for Rebelscum. Your comments today seem to be doing the same.

I personally think Dustin is a great guy and I admire his gusto with this. I wish that the fan club would have done something less commercial and more altruistic -- for example offering the presidency to the person who brought in the most contributions for a particular charity. Had they done that I would be supporting Dustin in an instant. But the fan club is using this to compensate for the lack of renewals since C3. It is a blatantly commercial move that the Star Wars community, as a whole, is not embracing.

Dustin, I wish you all the luck in the world on this, but I'm not buying.... I've been unimpressed with the fan club and their business practices and made a decision not to renew. I won't waste my money on a bad product like Hyperspace.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2006, 09:24 PM
Staff discussion is underway and we should be able to reveal our JediDefender "Fan Club President" candidate in the next few days...
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 20, 2006, 10:25 PM
Wow.....is tykrazen a member here?  He should be because he summed up in one post what we had trouble doing in a 63 page thread!

As far as the JD candidate, no offense to the staff here, but I think it should be a regular average-joe member.  And no, I don't want it to be me.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: efranks on March 21, 2006, 01:37 AM
<pressleak>  You guys all need to tune into CreatureCantina.com on Wednesday for a big announcement</pressleak>

   E...
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jesse James on March 21, 2006, 04:04 AM
I think it would be fun too, but I'd do it for all the chicks I would get.  :-*

(http://krautboy.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/starwars15.jpg)

 :-*

Hah!  This one made my night, thank you.  Have fun Pres...  Remember your cigars for your new intern.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Xander on March 21, 2006, 08:12 AM
I'd throw my support towards a JD member, for sure.


I was talking with Kevin last night, we were guessing as to how much it'll cost Philip to buy this one...


Isn't this ultimately going to be the outcome? 
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 21, 2006, 09:45 AM
Tykrazen's post is well put and I'm very jealous for him saying what I should have. :P

Sadly, I'm afraid of getting banned for saying this, but I'm frankly shocked at the amount of personal support for Dustin, even if he's not getting the financial. My few dealings with him have been less than friendly and I've always gotten the vibe that he's not a good people person which is essential for any public office holder. Am I wrong here? Please tell me what I'm missing because Dustin would be far down the list of people I'd support at this point.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on March 21, 2006, 10:50 AM
That was a great post - pretty much summed it up in a nutshell.

Rob had a great post too in regards to this "election" mirroring our real presidential election(s) - he who has the most money wins!

Philip is in this for one reason and one reason only - to gain more exposure for his site, plain and simple.

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 21, 2006, 11:24 AM
Rob had a great post too in regards to this "election" mirroring our real presidential election(s) - he who has the most money wins!

Yet somehow I had to go in there again and spell it out for Mark_Rebelscum...  ::)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: name on March 21, 2006, 11:48 AM
Sigh .. .I hate to tell the same joke twice, but now that PWise has gotten so publicly behind this the tag line that I originally created seems even more appropriate.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/name7574/douchebagv3.jpg)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 21, 2006, 06:13 PM
You have to change the spelling first...Philip.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: IndianaVader on March 21, 2006, 09:18 PM
Vote for me!  No one can deny a poor cancer victim of wanting to go to Comic Con.  :'(

;)

_Max
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on March 21, 2006, 09:32 PM
Then I'd get that same consideration, Max... and I'm still sick...
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 21, 2006, 10:59 PM
Haven't seen you guys around here for awhile...how're you guys doing?
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: IndianaVader on March 22, 2006, 01:07 AM
Pretty well.  I'm actually in the hospital right now.  I wouldn't say it's been smooth sailing, but it's going anyway.  Hopefully I'll be done by the end of summer.  I'm completely ready for senior year.

And dude, where have you been?  I've pretty much been at Scum this whole time.  I only come here to see what everyone else is talking about over there (Yeah, I'm a loser).

But I'll pop in every week or so and do some lurking.

_Max
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: efranks on March 22, 2006, 01:32 AM
It's official, I'm now running for Star Wars Fan Club President.

(http://www.netenigma.com/starwars/info/franks4pres.jpg) (http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2006/0322/franks4pres.html)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 22, 2006, 01:42 AM
Pretty well.  I'm actually in the hospital right now.  I wouldn't say it's been smooth sailing, but it's going anyway.  Hopefully I'll be done by the end of summer.  I'm completely ready for senior year.

And dude, where have you been?  I've pretty much been at Scum this whole time.  I only come here to see what everyone else is talking about over there (Yeah, I'm a loser).

But I'll pop in every week or so and do some lurking.

_Max

Wait..I had no idea you were in the hospital...What happenned? Gosh, I hope it's all ok.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: stormie on March 22, 2006, 01:10 PM
Sigh .. .I hate to tell the same joke twice, but now that PWise has gotten so publicly behind this the tag line that I originally created seems even more appropriate.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/name7574/douchebagv3.jpg)

Not to be crass or anything, but wouldn't it be even more funny if "pocket" were changed to some other noun? Especially given the nature of the pictured product.

Yeah, too crass, but I'm immature and bored at work. Still, it makes me chuckle. :P
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on March 22, 2006, 01:42 PM
We need to get our JD candidate our there asap - Dustin is tied with uscwannabe at nine votes a pop!

"Won't somebody please think of the children?
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on March 22, 2006, 02:20 PM
Don't forget, you have to be a Hyperspace member to be eligible for President...

Hyperspace- last ditch attempt to try and get people to subscribe...
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 22, 2006, 03:48 PM
We need to get our JD candidate our there asap - Dustin is tied with uscwannabe at nine votes a pop!"Won't somebody please think of the children?

9 votes!!?? Wow, that sounds like a lot of people care about getting a new fan club president :P

I noticed the stupid blurbs on Rs' main page about thanking all their sponsors' contribution help for Dustin. I wonder who lobbied them for the votes ::) :P
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on March 22, 2006, 06:28 PM
I really want to see a promotion thread to support someone else over at RS to see if they will really allow it...
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on March 22, 2006, 06:37 PM
Quote
I really want to see a promotion thread to support someone else over at RS to see if they will really allow it...

I asked if I could run and promote my campaign in the forums over there.

They said yes.  ;D
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on March 22, 2006, 08:39 PM
I saw he said yes, but want to see what would REALLY happen if it happened....
probably an excuse to not allow it...
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on March 22, 2006, 08:54 PM
Quote
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I saw he said yes, but want to see what would REALLY happen if it happened....
probably an excuse to not allow it... 

Well....you may get your wish.  Apparently everyone's favorite intellectual powerhouse "Lady" Jaye and everyone's favorite forum toddler Dark Kanos are willing to give it a go.

I personally would love to see how that campaign goes. I even did a poster for them (I lack Rob's excellent skills).


I think Dustin has it in the bag....more power to him. I am curious though who that other guy with the 9 votes is.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Famine on March 22, 2006, 08:59 PM
Well....you may get your wish.  Apparently everyone's favorite intellectual powerhouse "Lady" Jaye and everyone's favorite forum toddler Dark Kanos are willing to give it a go.

Lady Jaye is the new ICMG.

Kevin
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: BillCable on March 22, 2006, 09:05 PM
Willrow >>>>> Lady Jaye
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 22, 2006, 10:05 PM
These choice aren't getting any better as time goes by. I hope somebody outside of any collecting site wins. Perhaps a kid or someone who has nothing to do with anything.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: BillCable on March 22, 2006, 10:27 PM
I don't think there's any chance of that.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 22, 2006, 10:41 PM
JD is getting ready to endorse a candidate as well.   ;)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 23, 2006, 02:07 AM
Quote
everyone's favorite forum toddler Dark Kanos

*sigh* This isn't going to end well.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 23, 2006, 09:48 AM
How's the voting work? Is the only way to vote buy signing up for Hyperspace endorsing a particular candidate?
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 23, 2006, 10:22 AM
Yeah, only new or extended hyperspace subscriptions get a vote.  It's pretty much an attempt to revive struggling membership, and I doubt it will have much effect.  The people who are registering probably aren't doing it BECAUSE of the contest.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Nathan on March 23, 2006, 12:35 PM
Yeah, this whole thing really is stupid. I was going to renew anyway, but while I'm at it I might as well throw my support behind a candidate I like.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on March 23, 2006, 08:27 PM
Quote
JD is getting ready to endorse a candidate as well. 

So who's it going to be?  Every day they don't pipe up is a day they lose the opportunity to win.  ;D
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 24, 2006, 09:38 AM
I have a subscription to the Insider, and therefore, a free membership (I think.) I haven't registared yet, so I'm waiting for the JD nominee.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jeff on March 24, 2006, 12:21 PM
I have a subscription to the Insider, and therefore, a free membership (I think.) I haven't registared yet, so I'm waiting for the JD nominee.

Wait no longer!

CLICKY HERE FOR THE GREATEST ANNOUNCEMENT EVER! (http://www.jedidefender.com/smentek06.php)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 24, 2006, 03:32 PM
Hey I just noticed, why are there no minorities running??  >:( 
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on March 24, 2006, 03:41 PM
Hey I just noticed, why are there no minorities running??  >:( 

Perhaps you've never heard of Willrow Hood, VP candidate?

Baby Steps LJ, Baby Steps. 
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 24, 2006, 03:44 PM
Hey I just noticed, why are there no minorities running??  >:( 

There could be. There's only 3 people on that list I recognize anyway  :P
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 24, 2006, 03:48 PM
Perhaps you've never heard of Willrow Hood, VP candidate? Baby Steps LJ, Baby Steps. 

True, perhaps next year!! We'll see an hispanic JD endorced candidate??

There could be. There's only 3 people on that list I recognize anyway  :P

That's true, but I was hoping for a scum or jd endorced minority!! It would have meant at least one of the sites is progressive!! But like Zod said, baby steps!! ;)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Morgbug on March 24, 2006, 04:02 PM
Isn't it discriminatory to imply that someone of European descent shouldn't be the endorsed candidate?

Or does discrimination only emanate in a single direction.  You know, like gender bias. ;)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 24, 2006, 04:10 PM
Isn't it discriminatory to imply that someone of European descent shouldn't be the endorsed candidate?

Or does discrimination only emanate in a single direction.  You know, like gender bias. ;)

Nice spelling Brent ;). What about r2 though? if that's a robot is that a minority :-\
I'm german-american does that count Brent ;). NM ..we HAVE a candidate already.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Ryan on March 24, 2006, 04:31 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/images/smentek06/jeffawesome2.jpg)

That is priceless.  ;D

Good luck Jeff!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nathan on March 28, 2006, 05:04 PM
Hey, does anyone have a bookmark to one of the threads on RS complaining about the "No Links In Sigs" policy? I can't find any, so have they been deleted?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 28, 2006, 05:08 PM
Hey, does anyone have a bookmark to one of the threads on RS complaining about the "No Links In Sigs" policy? I can't find any, so have they been deleted?

If you are referring to the one where Jeff called them out on the signature link thing, yes, that has been deleted.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nathan on March 28, 2006, 05:10 PM
OK, thanks Vic. I have to head to work now, but when I get home I'll have to start a new bitch-thread then.

That policy is such a load.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Clone Commander on March 28, 2006, 06:03 PM
 ::) Nazi Germany?
Really?
He went there?  :o
Oh my I think I might just shat myself if I ever got a threatening e-mail/Pm.
 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nathan on March 29, 2006, 01:38 PM
OK, thanks Vic. I have to head to work now, but when I get home I'll have to start a new bitch-thread then.

Well, that didn't last long (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1785897&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1785897), did it? Oh well. At least I said my piece, and that's all I really expected out of it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on March 29, 2006, 08:44 PM
Hey, does anyone have a bookmark to one of the threads on RS complaining about the "No Links In Sigs" policy? I can't find any, so have they been deleted?

I stumbled across this (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1500312&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=2&vc=1) thread today while reading some old threads. Scroll down about halfway.

The real thread Jeff made about the sig links was deleted, but the comments in the anti-GH thread lived.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on April 1, 2006, 12:50 PM
I just can't believe how hard it is to do a legit trade over there. This guy wanted to trade me one Scorch for my loose Sio Bibble, loose Battle Amidala(Complete) and loose Battle Amidala (incomplete). And when I called him on it he was"just testing the waters"  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on April 1, 2006, 01:43 PM
I get a kick out of the fact that Dustin's now created two (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1792721&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1792721) separate (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1769178&page=4&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1769178) threads about his new personalized Star Wars license plate, and meanwhile, they're still locking up threads because they're "duplicates" of other threads that, in some cases, haven't been posted to in months, if not years.

(And what kind of dork has a Star Wars license plate, anyway?)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on April 9, 2006, 06:25 PM
It seems a guy who has been at Rebelscum for six years was banned because he and his niece share the same IP. Granted, his niece was 9 and probably shouldn't have been on anyway, but I don't see any problem with what the guy did that is ban-worthy.

Thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1811373&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1&vc=1)

Post that says he was banned (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1812569&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1811373&Search=true&where=&Name=8536&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1812569)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on April 9, 2006, 06:52 PM
It seems a guy who has been at Rebelscum for six years was banned because he and his niece share the same IP. Granted, his niece was 9 and probably shouldn't have been on anyway, but I don't see any problem with what the guy did that is ban-worthy.

Thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1811373&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1&vc=1)

Post that says he was banned (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1812569&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1811373&Search=true&where=&Name=8536&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1812569)

Who cares?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on April 9, 2006, 07:01 PM
It seems a guy who has been at Rebelscum for six years was banned because he and his niece share the same IP. Granted, his niece was 9 and probably shouldn't have been on anyway, but I don't see any problem with what the guy did that is ban-worthy.

Thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1811373&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1&vc=1)

Post that says he was banned (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1812569&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1811373&Search=true&where=&Name=8536&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1812569)

Who cares?

Sorry Chris, I just thought it was crazy that he was banned over something such as this  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Zack Attack on April 9, 2006, 07:03 PM

(And what kind of dork has a Star Wars license plate, anyway?)

i'd say the kind of dork who's lifework it is to become the president of the star wars fan club.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on April 9, 2006, 07:33 PM
It seems a guy who has been at Rebelscum for six years was banned because he and his niece share the same IP. Granted, his niece was 9 and probably shouldn't have been on anyway, but I don't see any problem with what the guy did that is ban-worthy.

Thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1811373&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1&vc=1)

Post that says he was banned (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1812569&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1811373&Search=true&where=&Name=8536&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1812569)

Who cares?

Sorry Chris, I just thought it was crazy that he was banned over something such as this  :P

Some people do care about what is said/done at other sites - even though some people hate Scum, some of us still view us overall as one big community.  I hate the fact that some people want disassociate completely with another group.  That's pretty weak in my opinion... there are some major morons there but still some good people too.

I kind of wish people here would quit bashing them here, in my opinion it lowers oneself a notch or two.  No I don't love Scum, this is my favorite forum site, but I don't hate everyone there either.  There are idiots whereever you go, even some that are members here.  It's just controlled better here by the staff.

Just my 2 cents.

 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on April 9, 2006, 07:42 PM
It seems a guy who has been at Rebelscum for six years was banned because he and his niece share the same IP. Granted, his niece was 9 and probably shouldn't have been on anyway, but I don't see any problem with what the guy did that is ban-worthy.

Thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1811373&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1&vc=1)

Post that says he was banned (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1812569&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1811373&Search=true&where=&Name=8536&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1812569)

Who cares?

Sorry Chris, I just thought it was crazy that he was banned over something such as this  :P

Some people do care about what is said/done at other sites - even though some people hate Scum, some of us still view us overall as one big community.  I hate the fact that some people want disassociate completely with another group.  That's pretty weak in my opinion... there are some major morons there but still some good people too.

I kind of wish people here would quit bashing them here, in my opinion it lowers oneself a notch or two.  No I don't love Scum, this is my favorite forum site, but I don't hate everyone there either.  There are idiots whereever you go, even some that are members here.  It's just controlled better here by the staff.

Just my 2 cents.

 :)

Now my 2 cents...

I Do Not care what goes on at that hell-hole and Do Not like most people there. I Do Not care to hear about what new asinine things one of their staff members does. We are a divided community and RebelScum made it that way. I'd like the bitching to stop just as much as the next guy, as well as the martyr-like posts by those who don't know all the going-ons between the two sites.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on April 9, 2006, 07:46 PM
Chris?  I don't understand why you would get mad at my post or be rude to Doom for his comment... seriously. 

Yes, I agree 100% that they have some complete asses there.  There are also a lot of members there that I'm good friends with.  But in fact the only staff member there at all that I really like is Curto....

Is that a problem?  I feel like if someone is a member at both site there is some sort of biased against someone for posting there.  To me that's not what this site is all about.

Anyways, I still spend most of my time here and I intend to.

 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on April 9, 2006, 07:50 PM
There are idiots whereever you go, even some that are members here.

(wink)

 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on April 9, 2006, 07:53 PM
I didn't mean that towards you MWB.  I know we had a recent fit but I'm not mad at you, so I hope you don't think that.  I know there were people that took my side and people that took yours.  For what it's worth I asked them not to bother you with it.  In fact what you said was probably something I needed to hear.

 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on April 9, 2006, 07:55 PM
And I'm not mad at you either Chris.   I understand why you don't like Scum.

 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on April 9, 2006, 07:55 PM
Wow...sorry Chris, feel free to delete my post if its that big of a deal.

I wasn't bitching or trying to start ****. I was just commenting on that fact that a senior member at another site was banned. I like RS and I like JD. Feel free to take this to PMs, as I'd like to try to get to the bottom of why you are so angry at me.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on April 9, 2006, 08:02 PM
I'm not mad at anyone. I really don't care if you like RebelScum or you don't. I just really don't see why people complain about that site yet they still go there, thus my pointing out "Who cares?" what happens there when you can and are here. It's hypocritical and doesn't serve any positive purpose other than to talk about it and rant on and on. If you don't like something, make a stand and boycott it, don't just talk here to hear yourself talk.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on April 9, 2006, 08:07 PM
Chris, I am in the same boat that I am tired of seeing people talk about it.  My point was mainly to quit bashing them, just quit talking about them... but I guess people still want to.

It seems like this topic comes up a lot when I am using AIM with several members here.  I still go there mainly because of the customizing community, which really is my main reason for getting online in the first place.   ;)

 :) 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on April 9, 2006, 08:13 PM
I'm not just posting to hear myself talk and I'm not ranting on and on - like I said, it was just a comment about a senior member being banned. Nothing more, nothing less.

There are people who care. If you don't, thats fine. If it really bothers you that much, then why is this entire thread allowed?

I am glad that we are able to talk about it here. We all know what would happen if we mentioned it there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on April 9, 2006, 08:16 PM
If it really bothers you that much, then why is this entire thread allowed?


Good point.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ddschneider1972 on April 25, 2006, 11:23 PM
Well this posted on some scummy forum and was wiped from existence (along witht he posters acount) within 3 minutes....YOU WANT THE TRUTH? REBELSCUM CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Proof the Media skes politics....even in the geeky toy world.

Re: Dustin or USCwannabe and Saga 

This will be erased soon...

But with all these daily ads 'promoting' Dustin, (making me want to read more and more alternative SW sites) I figured I'd through in my 2 cents...with the help of some others. We think it’d be great to have a guy that manages to make collecting so much NOT FUN for local people...if they disagree with him or the "inner circle" not to mention how he speaks to his fellow club members publicly when they disagree...I submit for your perusal...something that was dug up and sent to me...this is only the last part of the flame, but the best part. Personally, I'd endorse that crazy guy from North Korea first...

The Back story involved the Planning of the Summer Annual OSWCC geekfest, where nerds from all over Ohio leave Mama's basement, not to go to Target or Walmart but to meet other geeks…The member berated by D was a musician and offered to perform his music at the gathering…the next Slammed Club president (you know he’ll win, he has friends that would love to buy fan club memberships for friends for a years worth of free advertising) publicly berated his 'fellow collector' because he didn't like him...nice guy.

…and here is how he talks to those with different opinions in a public forum.

Read it now…it’ll be deleted soon.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dustin Roberts [mailto:dustin@rebelscum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:52 PM
To: oswcc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Social planning time

whoops sorry I forgot to add my ;-) smiley so you'd know I was just busting
your balls.

Again you read into something and cry to the list . . . Maybe I should go
on about how I am entitled to my opinion like you've done so many times?

I was trying to convey that I really wouldn't care for music at the social
unless it comes from boom box and is star wars related. But since you think
I am always insulting you I am gonna start now.

You are the biggest crybaby f###* I have ever come across, your music sucks ,
your opinions suck, you just plain f#####g* suck!

Oh yeah just kidding ;-)

there, that should get me off the hook . . . . .


*(censored here, initially sent uncensored to a list with children)

Sincerely,
Dustin Roberts

Web Administrator for :
Rebelscum.com - http://www.rebelscum.com
TheForce.net - http://www.theforce.net
R2D2central.com - http://www.r2d2central.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cincinnati Regional Director for OSWCC
OSWCC.com - http://www.oswcc.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
All around groovy dude :-)
Dustinroberts.com - http://www.dustinroberts.com
Visit the Shirtshop!- http://www.dustinroberts.com/shirtshop/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Famine on April 26, 2006, 12:08 AM
Class act.

Kevin
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Matt on April 26, 2006, 12:59 AM
Quote
Sincerely,
Dustin Roberts

Web Administrator for :
Rebelscum.com - http://www.rebelscum.com
TheForce.net - http://www.theforce.net
R2D2central.com - http://www.r2d2central.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cincinnati Regional Director for OSWCC
OSWCC.com - http://www.oswcc.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
All around groovy dude :-)
Dustinroberts.com - http://www.dustinroberts.com
Visit the Shirtshop!- http://www.dustinroberts.com/shirtshop/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

He'd probably be winning the Fan Club thing right now if he would just promote himself a little more in his signature.

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ruiner on April 26, 2006, 02:02 PM
MWB - isn't it time to update the "plug" list?

Gotta be close to two pages by now.

 ;D
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Matt on April 26, 2006, 02:13 PM
Yeah, it probably needs some updating.  But the "endorsement announcements" (not plugs) seem to have slowed down quite a bit, though.  So either they've run out of SW-related websites to pester into "endorsing" Dustin, or they've finally realized that this campaign is really starting to annoy the **** out of people.

Back to the e-mail, though, for a moment:

Who in the blue hell refers to themselves as "an all around groovy dude" in their sig?!

Who in the blue hell refers to themselves at all in their sig?

It's one of the most-retarded things I've seen in quite a while--or at least since I last looked in the mirror.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: DrunkJedi on April 26, 2006, 03:03 PM
Back to the e-mail, though, for a moment:

Who in the blue hell refers to themselves as "an all around groovy dude" in their sig?!

Who in the blue hell refers to themselves at all in their sig?


Someone with a severly over-inflated ego.  :o oops did I say that outload  :D
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: CaptainAlex on April 26, 2006, 03:40 PM
He's never been nice or courtious to me over the years ovber at scum. I don't ask him questions about anything because his answers always are either short or short tempered.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on April 26, 2006, 03:48 PM
I can't believe they are going so far as sending Dustin down here to Dallas this weekend to sell subscriptions at Phillip's convention!
I wonder if they're going to sell Girl Scout cookies too...

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: JoshEEE on April 26, 2006, 05:17 PM
Quote
I can't believe they are going so far as sending Dustin down here to Dallas this weekend to sell subscriptions at Phillip's convention!

I can believe it.  Face to face, he'll probably be able to sell a lot more subscriptions too.

Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ddschneider1972 on April 26, 2006, 06:32 PM
I forgot to mention one of my favorite flame wars on OSWCC. The Vintage Collecting "Inner Circle" think they are geeks that are above us moderm collectors because, as Dustin said Modern collectors are just Walmart shoppers, where the vintage collectors have had to work at building their collection through networking...

Sorry D-bag...I never found an Eopie, or FAO Maul speeder game or other many things at a Walmart...but you can't argue with them. They are always right...

 
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Matt on April 26, 2006, 08:08 PM
I can't believe they are going so far as sending Dustin down here to Dallas this weekend to sell subscriptions at Phillip's convention!

I'm surprised they haven't moved Dustin down to The Big D altogether to be Pappy Wise's personal sponge bath boy.  I mean, that's what he is online; why not make it a real life thing, too?
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: CHEWIE on April 27, 2006, 01:02 AM
I'm just waiting for this darn thing to be over.  But if he wins, maybe the Rebelscum icon will be on the front page of Insider.   :-\

Anyways, hasn't this whole thing paralleled modern media politics?

 :)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jesse James on April 27, 2006, 01:22 AM
I'm just waiting for this darn thing to be over.  But if he wins, maybe the Rebelscum icon will be on the front page of Insider.   :-\

And at that point I'll be sure and let the Insider know they lost a subscription via their little campaign to get new people to sign up...  Hopefully others will too.

I want nothing with fan site's logos on it unless I actually don't mind the fan site too much...  I wear my PSWCS shirt happily, I wear my Jedi Defender.com shirt happily...  I don't buy autographs online though because I really don't want Philip's Stamp of hypocricsy on my stuff... 

BTW Josh I disagree...  I don't think he'll sell many subs down at the Dallas show.  I could be wrong of course, but to me I think selling this **** is hard for even the slimiest car sales man to pull off.  I wonder how many of those new subs earned by ANYONE in this cluster were actually "earned sales" as opposed to back scratching. 

I dunno, this whole thing sure as **** is "fun" though!  Wheeee!
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: itbedave on April 27, 2006, 10:13 AM
Hi Dan - feel better being able to post that 2 year old message from Dustin somewhere else without fear of it being deleted? I actually wish Philip would have left it up on RS as well because it shows how petty some are willing to get in order to tear Dustin down personally. I understand you support your friend, Bryan - but let it rest already. You and the rest of the "Lost 13" (my new moniker for your Columbus-area "inner circle" since you continue to believe some conspiracy theory that one exists within OSWCC  ;) ) should give it a rest and go back to finding some way of enjoying the hobby without worrying so much about others who are.

Posting one small part of an OLD argument without background or context is pretty shallow IMHO. And I don't agree with how Dustin handled it when that was going on - and said so to him privately. But I did understand why it upset him to the point where he finally flamed Bryan for it. If anyone is THAT interested in it, I'd be glad to host and post the entire argument somewhere. But it really isn't that interesting. Some people just don't get along - and the fact that Dustin would ever talk in such a tone to someone shouldn't come as a suprise to anyone. He's human, just like the rest of us. Take a look in the mirror sometime. We've likely all had moments like this at one time or another.

Why not let bygones be bygones and leave the baggage behind? Move on and enjoy collecting with or without OSWCC - however you choose. But faulting him, Philip Wise, OSWCC, me personally, or whoever whenever and however possible because you and your own circle of friends disagree with some decisions made in the past or have a personal dislike for an individual or group of individuals, for whatever reason, is just a waste of your time and energy. Let it go.

Dave

P.S. This message was composed by me on my own without any feedback or review of any of my friends or fellow club members. These are my own words and represent my own feelings and are not meant to represent OSWCC or any other person or group. My user ID is itbedave on just about every forum I am a member of, and I do not sign onto forums under ailiases in order to take potshots and leave. I stand behind my own words.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: itbedave on April 27, 2006, 10:16 AM
BTW - I've not been here before because, frankly, I don't have the time to surf a bunch of forums anymore. But I like the content I see here, and love that this site is having fun with this whole Hyperspace marketing gimmick! Great stuff!

I'll be back here for the news and other content because I like to get my news from multiple sources - not because I'm anti-scum.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: ddschneider1972 on April 27, 2006, 11:50 AM
Ahhh...apparently someone has his flying monkeys out....

First off, Bryan is no friend of mine, he had nothing at all to do with it. nor did Alex, BW, DJ or anyone else you might assume.  The subject came up about how your Master talks down to people. I thought it'd be funny to point that out...It was.
I was just trying to point out that someone people blindly support because of an inundation of free ads on a popular site, is not worthy of peoples $30 vote...of course facts and good questions are called FLAMES and are erased from 'scum as soon as they are posted. Sieg Heil....Someone was a huge ego but ultra thin skin. I was going to post the whole disertation but 3 minutes later that account was closed...then today I noticed my home account was closed.  Nice...class acts. Can't take any criticism. Funny stuff. Makes me laugh, anyway. I wish Smentek was higher on the boards, he's a REAL class act, unfortunately he doesn't have a huge money hungry site playing censor and wanting all the publicity. So who supported Dustin today for a free 'scum "news" ad? I don't know because I joined the many and erased that site from my bookmarks, like I did a long time ago with Sir Sleeze's site...I feel cleaner already.

 
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: BillCable on April 27, 2006, 12:38 PM
It would have been nicer if Dustin had come in and addressed his old E-mail instead of the OSWCC Public Relations Officer.  That may have served his candidacy better.  I think a candidate looks weaker when he allows other people to run to his defense at every whisper of opposition.  As I told Dustin, he's not going to win this contest by containing himself to the friendly confines of the Phil Wise galaxy.  And he's not going to win based on the endorsement of the Greater Albuquerque Star Wars Costuming Troop, either... which is just about what he's down to in his endorsement hunt.  His efforts have been effective, but USC has been one step ahead of him the entire time.  If he doesn't start taking risks, he's going to lose.
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Rob on April 27, 2006, 12:41 PM
Sieg Heil...

(http://www.thecountrygourmet.com/IMAGES/cookware/emeril/Emeril_Bam.jpg)
Title: Re: How Do You Spell Hypocrisy? P-H-I-L-I-P W-I-S-E
Post by: Jesse James on April 27, 2006, 02:52 PM
See guys!  Isn't this hyperspace thing fun!?!   :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on May 3, 2006, 10:40 PM
I'm opening this back up since the Jeff 4 Prez thread seems to have taken the place of this anyways. Please be conscious when posting is all I ask.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on May 3, 2006, 11:08 PM
What about sober?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on May 4, 2006, 12:05 AM
MisterPL's classic signature should probably apply but if you can't I guess that's ok.  Just make it coherent?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on May 4, 2006, 12:06 AM
MisterPL's classic signature should probably apply but if you can't I guess that's ok.  Just make it coherent?

Yeah, I remember it, but if he's not around to post I don't have to listen to the advice, do I :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on May 4, 2006, 12:35 AM
Good point... 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on May 4, 2006, 06:01 AM
I don't like the fact that Dustin is using the front page of RS to ask for his personal needs:

Quote
Searching For 2nd Series 501st Trading Cards
Posted by Dustin on May 2, 2006 at 05:36 PM CST:
I'm looking to obtain a full set. If you can help, please email me here - dustin@rebelscum.com. So far I've got #112, Jeff Ignatowski.

Come on, that's what the forums are for.  :(
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on May 4, 2006, 08:07 AM
I don't like the fact that Dustin is using the front page of RS to ask for his personal needs:

Quote
Searching For 2nd Series 501st Trading Cards
Posted by Dustin on May 2, 2006 at 05:36 PM CST:
I'm looking to obtain a full set. If you can help, please email me here - dustin@rebelscum.com. So far I've got #112, Jeff Ignatowski.

Come on, that's what the forums are for.  :(

Some of the staff at Yakface has been doing the same thing.  It certainly does have the effect of sullying their main page.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on May 4, 2006, 08:26 AM
Quote
Some of the staff at Yakface has been doing the same thing. 

True, though it happens very rarely. The main difference over there is that we don't have a forum... yet.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on May 4, 2006, 08:39 AM
The main difference over there is that we don't have a forum... yet.

Are you implying that Yakface is finally gonna have their very own message boards in the near future?

I hope so, because I don't think there are nearly enough SW-related message boards out there right now.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on May 8, 2006, 12:52 PM
The main difference over there is that we don't have a forum... yet.

Are you implying that Yakface is finally gonna have their very own message boards in the near future?

I hope so, because I don't think there are nearly enough SW-related message boards out there right now.

 :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: soggybottomboy2469 on May 11, 2006, 11:56 AM
BOYCOTT Rebelscum and TheForce.net - THEY SUCK!!!!

SUPPORT JediDefender.com!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 11, 2006, 04:20 PM
Ummmm....yeah.

As far as Yakface getting their own forum that's actually pretty cool news.  I think that's about the only thing missing from that site, I bet they could get a pretty good community going.

I doubt I'd join up over there, hell, I barely have the time to post over here anymore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on May 11, 2006, 04:41 PM
But we looooooove you, Mr. Fury. :-*

Kevin
Title: Re: How Do You Spell "Fun"? Fan Club President.
Post by: JediMAC on May 14, 2006, 07:32 AM
I can't believe they are going so far as sending Dustin down here to Dallas this weekend to sell subscriptions at Phillip's convention!

Late reply here, I know, but I haven't made a peep in this thread throughout it's duration, despite my thorough detesting of Dustin (and Phillip).  Please forgive any redundancy by me in here as well, as I haven't really followed this thread in ages, and am replying without catching up on most of the responses herein...  Anyway, what's ludicrous about Phillip bringing Dustin all the way down to Dallas to work that show and to try to bribe people with those free $30 posters for a crappy Hyperspace membership, is that this whole thing is SUPPOSEDLY just to win a free trip to San Diego Comic Con.  Completely ridiculous, considering Dustin could very well be working for Official Pix at SDCC anyway, if he'd like to (on Phillip's dime too, probably).  Chauffering Dustin all the way down to Dallas really helps illustrate how incredibly desperate Phillip is to land the Fan Club President title for his websites.  Kinda makes you wonder what evil plans Phillip actually has brewing if he (via Dustin) actually manages to win this thing.  But remember, they're just doing this for "FUN", right?  Phhhttht.  Anyone who actually believes that bull**** that Phillip and Dustin are spewing would have to be the biggest idiot on the planet.  You can damn well bet that Phillip wants that Fan Club President title attached to his website(s) more than anything in the world right now, and all the hours they're pouring into scouring the internet for referrals and advertising partners (why haven't they contacted us yet?), and the fact that he and Dustin have turned RS into nothing more than a giant campaign tool, really shows it.  I'm sure Dustin's over-inflated ego wouldn't mind the (supposedly ceremonial) title either.  Not about the "fun" at all, that's for damned sure.  Greed, power and ego, more like.

I swear to God, it won't surprise me in the slightest little bit to see Phillip buy some 80+ subscriptions in the next day or two to miraculously pull the victory off.  He's probably got a long list of recipients all ready to go, and is just waiting 'til the last minute to see how many he actually needs to purchase to buy off the Fan Club President title for his sites (note, not for Dustin).

Besides, who would want some prick like Dustin running the Star Wars Fan Club who would wind up banning any and all members who may also be interested in Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica (for example), or worse yet, if they're actually members of their Fan Clubs too?!  Pretty sure any support of, or participation in, any competing Sci-Fi franchises would be immediate grounds for a permanent banning of any such people from the Star Wars Fan Club, if Dustin was running the thing.  Yeah, that's exactly the kind of person we want in charge of our favorite hobby, no doubt.  If they do manage to pull buy off the miracle, I'd fully expect everyone here at JD (and maybe even GH) to suddenly, mysteriously, start having all kinds of problems with their Hyperspace/Insider subscriptions, and maybe even their SWS.com orders...  ::)

Phillip and Dustin are just way too greedy, petty, power-hungry, unprofessional, insecure, deceitful, authoritative, disrespectful, and "un-fanlike" to warrant them any involvement with the Fan Club in any official capacity whatsoever.  It's disgusting enough to see what a big (and growing) piece of the Star Wars pie Phillip is constantly getting his greedy grubby mitts into.  Even if he doesn't buy the Fan Club Presidency off this time, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it somehow fall under his control someday.  I absolutely dread the thought.

It would have been nicer if Dustin had come in and addressed his old E-mail instead of the OSWCC Public Relations Officer...

Actually, when Dustin started summarily and inexplicably banning any JD affiliated people from the 'Scum boards (staff and forum members alike), he specifically stated to me that he has NEVER, EVER clicked onto the JediDefender website - be it our news page, forums, or anything else, and never will.  So I'm quite sure he's not enjoying reading this thread, and not getting upset by the comments herein, and not sending people to respond in here on his behalf.  Just like when Greg(g) didn't get upset when Scot(t) outted his goofy ass picture and high-school (not "30-something") identity in here...  :P

Oddly enough, I was banned from Rebelscum about a minute and a half after my "Dustin is nothing more than Phillip Wise's Rick McCallum" comment over here about a year ago.  Yeah, I'm sure Dustin didn't read that either, and that the timing of my banning was pure coincidence.  Heh.

In closing, I'd just like to say:  Go uscwannabe!  Whoever you are, you couldn't possibly be a less worthy candidate for the Fan Club President than Phillip Dustin.  But hurry up everyone and get your subscriptions in for Phillip/Dustin's main competition, 'cause so far, I'd have to say I'm completely disappointed in your totally underwhelming support for him so far...  :-X

- Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: soggybottomboy2469 on May 15, 2006, 09:35 AM
Well said Matt, well said.

Amen brutha!

Thank you!

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on May 20, 2006, 06:18 PM
I split all the video game talk into this thread (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12441.0).
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: soggybottomboy2469 on May 26, 2006, 01:08 AM
Can you say Election 06 Scandal!!?!?!?!?!?

They must have run out of fingers and toes on DR and PW to count how many subscriptions they needed to win.

LOL!

Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Rebelscum & TheForce.Net

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on May 26, 2006, 10:50 AM
The main difference over there is that we don't have a forum... yet.

Are you implying that Yakface is finally gonna have their very own message boards in the near future?

I hope so, because I don't think there are nearly enough SW-related message boards out there right now.

I've been wanting a Yakface forum for about a year now...it would rock if they made one! :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 13, 2006, 06:04 PM
EDIT:

OK Grammy Tarkin found the link...  Mine was a dead-end to another thread completely for some reason and I couldn't find the original story actually, so thanks for the link.  Saves the ugly copy/paste job. :)

But yeah, that's just a classic exchange between KitKatFlimFlam and Dustin right there...

Welcome to the party numbnuts.  Enjoy your time-out. :)

I guess Rebelscum's loss is GalacticHunter's misery.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2006, 06:31 PM
OK, so the link's completely gone but thankfully the exchange was saved for our reading pleasure...  And as I said, if you can't laugh at this, you have no soul!  ;D

This is all swept under the rug now, but man it's funny...

 ???

Heroes and Villans Collection is GAY, Hasbro! (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1933285&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1933285)

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on June 13, 2006, 06:37 PM
Haha, welcome to the party numbnuts. :)  Apparantly someone needed a time-out.  Man that's a classic and always will be.

No wonder Mr. Kenobi showed up at GH yesterday...... ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on June 13, 2006, 06:38 PM
OK, so the link's completely gone but thankfully the exchange was saved for our reading pleasure...  And as I said, if you can't laugh at this, you have no soul!  ;D

This is all swept under the rug now, but man it's funny...

 ???

Heroes and Villans Collection is GAY, Hasbro! (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1933285&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1933285)



Laughed my ass of at that, mainly the topic title. Who thought up that piece of wit, a third grader?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 13, 2006, 06:46 PM
Haha, welcome to the party numbnuts. :)  Apparantly someone needed a time-out.  Man that's a classic and always will be.

No wonder Mr. Kenobi showed up at GH yesterday...... ::)

GH has always been a place he runs to when annoyed by what he called "noobs" at Rebelscum (comical from someone so new himself, and who annoyed practically anyone with more time than he had accumulated), or when apparantly Scum tired of him enough themselves and spanked him.  That's just great though...

Though I gotta say, Dustin showing disappointment in anything he says is like saying you're angry with Osama Bin Laden's behavior lately...  I mean, come on, the guy made an art out of being a forum peckerhead.  Goes to show all the more they pay attention to what's festering over there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2006, 06:50 PM
Who thought up that piece of wit, a third grader?

You're giving him way too much credit.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2006, 07:18 PM
GH has always been a place he runs to when annoyed by what he called "noobs" at Rebelscum (comical from someone so new himself, and who annoyed practically anyone with more time than he had accumulated), or when apparantly Scum tired of him enough themselves and spanked him.  That's just great though...

One of my favorite Matkatjackflackincloakanddagger moments from GH:

Your favorite SW movies in order? (http://www.galactichunter.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=OT&Number=148820&Forum=All_Forums&Words=2618&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=140176&Search=true#Post148820)

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This is tough. I love them all the same as a Saga.

But if I HAD to pick favorites, it would go like this:

AOTC - This movie is still my favorite due to Obi's detective work I really love the development of this side of his character. Also the Tatooine scenes, Geonosis scenes. and Obi-Ani scenes on Coruscant were great.

TPM - Obi vs Maul nuff said. Although I really liked the Trade Federaton army and the mysterious Sith. People hate on TPM, but I love it still.

ROTS - Best soundtrack, most dramatic, most duels, I love it.

ROTJ - Luke as a Jedi was awesome, not as a whiny punk as in ANH and ESB. Battle of Endor (all 3 parts) was fantastic.

ESB - OVERRATED

ANH - Seems rather boring when compared to the other 5 due to lack of a decent lightsaber duel.

But don't let this confuse you. I'm 22 years old and have been watching the OT since I was 8, and the PT started when I was like 15. I too grew up on the OT, but I favor the PT as being far more entertaining if I was just going to pull a SW DVD off the shelf to watch for fun.

So, just for the record, in MisterKenblowme's world, Phantom Menace is the second-best Star Wars film ever made, and Empire is the second-worst.

(Now, do I go with the "cuckoo" smiley, or the "blow my head off" smiley?)



Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on June 13, 2006, 07:31 PM
So, just for the record, in MisterKenblowme's world, Phantom Menace is the second-best Star Wars film ever made, and Empire is the second-worst.

(Now, do I go with the "cuckoo" smiley, or the "blow my head off" smiley?)


Is there a "dip****" smiley?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2006, 07:42 PM
Is there a "dip****" smiley?


You betcha'

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Avatars/MisterK_Reverse.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2006, 07:55 PM
I mean, come on, the guy made an art out of being a forum peckerhead.  Goes to show all the more they pay attention to what's festering over there.

Nah, just goes to show that The Powers That Be only care about this, because this is something that was very pointedly directed at Hasbro.  And if you're Philip Wise, you don't want a Hasbro rep reading a thread on your boards which says "**** you, Hasbro," in it's opening remarks, not to mention all the other garbage he threw out there. 

Sure, it's the same garbage he's been throwing out for the past year and a half, but the difference is that all of that other garbage was directed at other users, and not Hasbro themselves.  Him treating everybody else--the little people--like **** is okay, because they don't do anything for you.  But, for obvious reasons, you want to maintain a positive relationship with Hasbro, and allowing a thread like that to continue in your forums is not the way to do that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2006, 07:59 PM
Can't blame them for not wanting people screaming ****-you-hasbro, but for God's sake they need to police him for the other ridiculous crap too.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2006, 08:09 PM
But, for obvious reasons, you want to maintain a positive relationship with Hasbro, and allowing a thread like that to continue in your forums is not the way to do that.

And, given that, I'm kind of surprised Dustin left it up, instead of deleting it outright.  Jesse quoted the relevant stuff here, but has since removed it.  Who knows when someone there will think better of it and send it to the Rebelscum Phantom Zone.  You know, where all of the interesting threads go to die.

Someone should save that thread, somewhere, before it's too late. . .
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: R5Don4 on June 14, 2006, 01:14 AM
Is there a "dip****" smiley?


You betcha'

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Avatars/MisterK_Reverse.gif)

Or alternatively one of these:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/R5Don4/emot-fuckoff.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/R5Don4/emot-suicide.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/R5Don4/emot-emo.gif)

Or even perhaps more appropriately this:

Or not

-Chris
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 14, 2006, 01:32 AM
Quote
Or even perhaps more appropriately this:

Or not

-Chris


Boy now that piqued my interest...  ;)  But yeah I'm guessing that was naughty.  Oh my...  Delicious.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on June 14, 2006, 09:29 AM
I'd read some of that thread and I even reported it to the mods as something that didn't need to be on the boards but it went on for a few more days after I reported it.

I see that it's gone now.  I didn't see how it got wrapped up so if anyone saved it I'd love to read the outcome.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on June 14, 2006, 09:55 AM
That makes two of us.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2006, 10:50 AM
It just so happens that the pertinent part of the thread was saved:

MisterKenobi Wrote:
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Dear Hasbro,

[censored] you.

C'mon! The pegs are clogged with the SAME [censored] FIGURES that clogged the pegs a YEAR ago! What is wrong with you people? Do you HATE your customers? Even KIDS won't buy this [censored]! The ROTS line was great, but it's time to let go. 68 figures and like 15 exclusives weren't enough? Or are you just THAT proud of your action-feature-riddled sculpts that you want to PLAGUE us with them again. I won't have it.

The pegs are so full of this [censored] that my Walmart has them LITERALLY falling off the pegs if you touch them. There is at least a case and a half of H&V on the top shelf above the figures, and about 6-8 random figures scattered around the lower shelf underneath the cluster [censored] of crammed pegs. There is no room for new waves which means you are losing money because people don't want ROTS rehashes, they want MOS EISLEY. You need to fire whoever the nimrod is who decided to fill the pegs with old CRAP as opposed to making sure new product gets on the shelf. Never before have I seen such ignorance in the marketing of a product. Seriously, do you people hire your project managers from the special ed class? Sheesh, you guys are morons!

You have lost at least one very loyal carded completist. Hasbro's sales just dropped 50% in my home.

Sincerely and with all due respect,

Matt



Dustin Wrote:
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Matt. I'm extremely dissapointed in this post from you.

First of you obviously don't have a clue how distribution works with major retailers and the fact that Hasbro has no control over what is on the pegs. All hasbro does is sell the product to big box retailers like Target, Wal-Mart, K-Mart etc etc etc.

Secondly, the abrasive, non constructive, foul language laced, accusational message you've plopped into our forums does nothing positive what so ever but fill my PM box with complaints. Yes you are entitled to an opinion. HOWEVER, please take a little bit more time in the future about how you word things, and how you are trying to convey your message. We serve a multitude of various age groups for Star Wars fans from all walks of life here and you need to be more considerate of them as well.


Third, If I worked at hasbro do you think I would even continue reading a thread that starts . . .

"Dear Hasbro,

[censored] you."

Not going to happen.

I'm locking this thread and handing you a small vacation from the boards, please take this time off to think about your actions and what steps you will take so this doesn't happen again in the future.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 14, 2006, 11:01 AM
How long is he going to be gone?

I didn't really think that that post was too offensive, if I accumalated all the 'Hasbro sucks' threads into one summarized post, it would pretty much parallel the one made my Mr. Kenobi.

I did like the title, though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on June 14, 2006, 11:40 AM
I'd read some of that thread and I even reported it to the mods as something that didn't need to be on the boards but it went on for a few more days after I reported it.

I see that it's gone now.  I didn't see how it got wrapped up so if anyone saved it I'd love to read the outcome.

   E...

Let me get this straight. You reported the thread to RS mods because you felt it was something that didn't need to be on the boards. You reported it with the expectation that it would be moderated. Knowing RS, a logical conclusion would be that it would get spanked, locked or deleted. Deleted being a more and more common result recently.

The mods moderate, and eventually take the thread down.

After getting what you asked for, you now want to read the thread you found objectionable.

Maybe you should be asking the RS mods to put it back. Tell them you were just kidding or something. Tell them that your disposition that originally caused you to report the post can handle Mr. Kenobi's foul mouth and idiocy after all. At least now that it's interesting.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on June 14, 2006, 03:27 PM
I'd read some of that thread and I even reported it to the mods as something that didn't need to be on the boards but it went on for a few more days after I reported it.

I see that it's gone now.  I didn't see how it got wrapped up so if anyone saved it I'd love to read the outcome.

   E...

Let me get this straight. You reported the thread to RS mods because you felt it was something that didn't need to be on the boards. You reported it with the expectation that it would be moderated. Knowing RS, a logical conclusion would be that it would get spanked, locked or deleted. Deleted being a more and more common result recently.

The mods moderate, and eventually take the thread down.

After getting what you asked for, you now want to read the thread you found objectionable.

Maybe you should be asking the RS mods to put it back. Tell them you were just kidding or something. Tell them that your disposition that originally caused you to report the post can handle Mr. Kenobi's foul mouth and idiocy after all. At least now that it's interesting.

What the hell is your malfunction?

I didn't report it because I was personally offended by the language I reported it because it's the wrong way of going about voicing complaints.  That doesn't mean I didn't want to know the outcome of the topic. 

Yes, some threads get deleted on RS but others get locked.  I assumed this would be locked.  After hearing that Dustin actually addressed the topic I wanted to know the outcome but that's when I found it had been deleted or moved to their RS mod board.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: name on June 14, 2006, 03:38 PM


What the hell is your malfunction?




BWAH!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2006, 08:18 PM
Quote
It just so happens that the pertinent part of the thread was saved:

I missed the original thread, but I have to say that this really isn't a lot different than a large majority of the posts I read on most collectible forums. People are always bashing Hasbro, or Gentle Giant, or whoever it is that makes the stuff they line up to buy.

As of 3pm today, there were over 12 Blackhole Stormtrooper threads going on (every single one filled with bitching about that thing). I reported a few of them and Phillip went through and took care of them, thank goodness.

I agree Matt's post was overly profane, but I think if it wouldn't have been reported, it would just be yet another post bashing Hasbro.  It's not that big of a deal over there, over here, at GH or anywhere I go.  We all bitch and complain about Hasbro from time to time.


It would seem Matt is back posting as of 2pm today....unless this vacation was imposed after that.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 14, 2006, 08:58 PM
I think the brilliance of it's wording and the choice of slurs and thread titles were the point. ;)

And then a home-run of irony handed down to him by Dustin...  I suppose you had to have been one of his rampant beligerant posts to have seen the humor in it...  Colman's sides would hurt from laughing at the whole thing.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on June 14, 2006, 09:23 PM
Quote
It just so happens that the pertinent part of the thread was saved:

I missed the original thread, but I have to say that this really isn't a lot different than a large majority of the posts I read on most collectible forums. People are always bashing Hasbro, or Gentle Giant, or whoever it is that makes the stuff they line up to buy.

That's one of the things that had me laughing the most about it (aside from his standard social ineptitude) as well as other frequent and similar comments by others.  These guys endlessly bitch and moan about how Company X sucks, their product sucks, their distribution sucks, blah, blah, bitch, moan...then they line up to throw their cash at them.  I'll never understand it.  Misterkebuttpuppy's final comment was that Hasbro had just "lost 50% of his business."  Very good, dildo...I'm sure Hasbro would feel threatened knowing they'd still be getting your money (if they even read past the "**** you Hasbro" header).

John
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2006, 09:40 PM
[I missed the original thread, but I have to say that this really isn't a lot different than a large majority of the posts I read on most collectible forums.

It stands out because of the reputation of the author.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JayDouble on June 14, 2006, 10:01 PM
I don't know if anyone noticed but JD is getting credit on a RS collecting news headline.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2006, 10:09 PM
That's nice of them to include the link. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 14, 2006, 10:43 PM
IT'S THE APOCALYPSE, RUUUN. ok I'm done.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on June 14, 2006, 10:53 PM

What the hell is your malfunction?

Uncle Owwenn!  This Deanpaul unit has a bad motivator.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2006, 11:14 PM
IT'S THE APOCALYPSE RUUUN.

The hell is an Apocalypse Run?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2006, 11:19 PM
It couldn't be any worse than the Apocalypse Crawl.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on June 14, 2006, 11:37 PM
IT'S THE APOCALYPSE RUUUN.

The hell is an Apocalypse Run?

Wasn't it a bad sci-fi series in the 70's?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2006, 12:57 AM
Nah, it's that Marlon Brando Viet-Nam movie.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: mousedroid on June 15, 2006, 12:13 PM
Dustin Wrote:
Quote
Secondly, the abrasive, non constructive, foul language laced, accusational message you've plopped into our forums does nothing positive what so ever but fill my PM box with complaints.

Accusational?   ??? 

I guess he would've made a good president.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 15, 2006, 12:29 PM
Rob, are those pictures of Matt in your recent avatars? And if so, how did you get them?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 15, 2006, 01:03 PM
The avatar is just Ben Rothlisberger drunk off his ass.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on June 15, 2006, 01:26 PM
(http://cdn.channel.aol.com/aolnews_photos/03/07/20050503092709990012)

"Hello, I'm a ******bag."
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on June 21, 2006, 04:08 PM
Hey guys,

I thought I'd pop in for a sec.  Lately I've been taking pot shots at Matt (and two other members) at RS.  Funny, but he doesn't respond to me except to say "That's gay" or "******bag".  He so reminds me of those high school bullies who people try to befriend so that he won't pick on them.  How I wish he'd cross the line so that he'd be banned.

But alas, I used to ignore him on the boards.  But it's so much fun (and easy) to point out how uneducated and bigoted he is.  And to think he's reproducing to share those beliefs with children!  I still wonder how he stays married...

 :o

**Edit** If I had read back a page or two I would have seen that he was temporarily banned.  I guess that's why he hasn't responded to my "Using the word gay is offensive" post to him.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on June 21, 2006, 05:47 PM
Yes, "gay" and "******bag" seem to be about the limit of his quips.  Of course, he also threw in the old gem of "my 2 year old is smarter than you".  The man's a genius when it comes to derisive verbiage, no questions there.

John
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on June 21, 2006, 10:07 PM
I would like to see JohnH and MatkatandIcanttalksogood face off on an episode of Yo Momma.

My money would be on JohnH to thouroughly trounce and humiliate him.


   E...

(PS I'd actually rather see Mattkatandimmapunk get in the ring at a UFC event but, you know, you can't have everything)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on June 25, 2006, 01:31 AM
To tell the truth, I don't like the site all that much.  The only reason I go there is because I still have friends there, and for trading/buying/selling purposes.  And the only reason I have so many posts there, is because I've been there before I had the site that I run now. 

I don't like alot of the staff there because they over censor everything.  I heard that someone got banned for calling GNT a moron, and that's a bunch of bull if you ask me.  There are 2-3 staff members there that are cool, but I hate the rest.  I'm nice to them, so that I don't get banned, or randomly deleted.  (I come off as a suck up sometimes)

Glad to get that out of my system...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on June 25, 2006, 01:58 AM
A little over two years after my banishment, I can't say that I care either way about RS. There are plenty of douchebags out there and, like in the real world, I try to avoid them on the internet.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 25, 2006, 01:21 PM
I heard that someone got banned for calling GNT a moron

That would be me.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: subak on June 25, 2006, 09:56 PM
You kids should grow up, jesus christ kids bitching about the little things in life  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 25, 2006, 10:13 PM
Way to go on the double post, and by the way, you're not allowed to have pics in your sigs.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on June 25, 2006, 10:17 PM
They're talking about you guys...

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1972847
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 25, 2006, 10:19 PM
Double post and a huge ass novel-cover and dancing pikachu in the signature... pretty much par for the course for someone with a 'Rebelscum 4 lyfe' tagline, wouldn't you say?

 :P

Sig has been removed.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on June 25, 2006, 10:28 PM
So what if they're talking about us? They can talk all they want. And what's most amusing is that they wonder why we hate RS so much, like they have no clue. If you are an RS member reading this, I'll tell you why we don't like RS:

1. n00bs galore
2. people post-pad all the time
3. people make new threads all the time (and the topics are already covered in an already-existing thread)
4. Most of the mods are jerks who don't care about the members (except for GNT--he's cool)
5. Mods ban you waaaaayyy too easily. I mean, if someone over here starting saying how Jesse was being unfair (which never happens, obviously ;)), people would just point out how Jesse is fair, and then let it go. If someone at RS said that they thought one of the mods over there was being unfair, they would be banned (you know its true)
6. A lot of the people who have been there a long time are just plain jerks to new-comers. I can recall one scummer being a jerk to me after I had only been there a few days/weeks. I mean, cut the n00bs some slack, will ya?


Now, don't get me wrong, about half of the people at RS are perfectly decent. But the other half all pertain to one of the 6 above things I listed >:(

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 25, 2006, 10:33 PM
Now, I don't to start a site war here. Just accept that fact that there are people who like other sites/users more than other sites/users. Just ignore the people you don't care for.

Double post and a huge ass novel-cover and dancing pikachu in the signature... pretty much par for the course for someone with a 'Rebelscum 4 lyfe' tagline, wouldn't you say?

 :P


That was pretty funny, AE. Thanks for the laugh.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 25, 2006, 10:51 PM
I hate this thread...why do we always lock and then unlock it?

Not like I love RS, but still...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 25, 2006, 10:54 PM
Somehow it always gets locked and magically resurfaces... ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: subak on June 25, 2006, 11:14 PM
ok we should sign a  peace treaty, like the Moscow Peace Treaty!  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 25, 2006, 11:24 PM
I'm not saying that at all, I'm just tired of talking about RS.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on June 25, 2006, 11:30 PM
I'm not saying that at all, I'm just tired of talking about RS.

Ditto!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 25, 2006, 11:32 PM
Why is there even a Rebelscum thread on this board? If I wanted to talk about trashy board I'd go back there.

RS has no place here!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 25, 2006, 11:56 PM
They can talk about JD here, we can talk about RS there, (even though we can't talk about JD there).

Bottom line is that there really isn't much to argue about.  A lot of people here are friendly with a lot of people there and visa versa. 

Misterkenobi is just spewing more of his teenage dribble without realizing how moronic it makes him sound.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 26, 2006, 12:05 AM
AMEN!!

Let the kids have the scum let them keep their Dawsons Creek teenage nonsense over there.

And for the love of God please tell them to be quiet when ADULTS are talking.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2006, 02:03 AM
Good god this is dumb...

Subak, who the **** are you anyway?  You signed on it seems explicitly to talk about Rebelscum and how we need to be buddies around here, yet you're at Rebelscum saying about how much you don't care for us basically...  Am I missing something or are you just really needing something to keep your fingers busy tonight?

No offense meant by this, but you're coming off as a bit of a tool with that...  By all means, Scum-4-life for you...  There's the door.

As far as them talking about us, there's some funny things in that thread...

Bill (Cable) summed that up nicely though...   The fact is LJ and some others look to stir the pot it seems.  We leave this thread up because, quite frankly, it wouldn't be allowed (to vent or even just simply cite things you see as "problems" at rebelscum) over there...  Sometimes the staff do a bang-up job cleaning up the RS boards, other times they don't...  They've tried to weed out people who can't moderate worth a damn, or who abuse their powers, but the fact is they are spotty with how they handle problems there, or how they apply their rules there... 

This thread only ever seems to bump when something particularly dumb happens that's worth a laugh or simply noting.  For instance, MisterKitKatKenobi putting his foot in his mouth by openly spewing homophobic remarks and needing a bit of a spanking by the staff there...  For my $.02 I think he deserved it and I applaud Dustin...  I think I said as much.

Is that me somehow showing disrespect to Scum?  Hell no, I'm disrespecting KitKat...  I mean, he came here with his first posts consisting of vulgarity-laced insults to the site and staff because he fought with some of us...  He hardly tried to start up here with any respect so he got banned...  Now he's practically starting a menstrual cycle with heavy flow any time he can about us.

That's not a slight on another site, that's a slight on a knob at another site...  :)

This thread is here to vent, poke fun at, or just generally discuss...  It'd be closed there, and there's no doubt about that.  Which is fine, but it's disturbing how many people there are irate over this thread...  Most of us don't even post anything in here unless something stupid crops up over there.  That's all.  It'll go dormant for a while...  Then crop back up when something stupid happens...  There's nothing wrong with that.

If anything our sites have been getting along quite well I've noticed...  I've always personally gotten along with a number of their staff, and guys like Curto I consider a friend.  I've heard nothing but nice things about Dave, and despite some **** I've seen him say I disagree with I am sure he's a pretty decent guy...  They mentioned us on their front page just the other day, and we've mentioned them too recently. 

It seems the only people who don't think we get along are people who simply aren't allowed here because they violated our established rules, or they are the  kind of people who love drama and try to stir the pot but don't like it when they're told to knock it off...

This thread is here for our member's use...

We've found that some will enjoy things more over there, while others will enjoy things more over here.  We're more than happy to keep things that way.  For the people who do like RS better, please by all means just stay there. :)  I saw a member or two in that thread Bill linked, who have never vocally expressed displeasure with our forums here, yet they're here often...  Apparantly they feel comfortable over there though complaining...  I found that particularly interesting/funny.  Honestly if you're not happy we're more than happy for you to leave so you are happy... 

This site isn't for everyone.  We strive for different standards, different rules...  We have a membership that I feel pretty sure is filled by older collectors.  We have a strict focus on our forums by our staff, and moderate closely.  In some ways we're relaxed and yet in others I'd say we're much more strict with enforcement...  Our community is as big a part of our site as any feature or news, and we treat it as such, so this community simply won't appeal to everyone out there.  Those that it doesn't appeal to though, we're just as happy they found a home they feel they fit in at.

I'll leave it at this though;  A guy complained that my reviews are too long and they didn't have an end in his view...  If that guy finds that reading is difficult, or that he can't grasp "Opening, Pro, Con, Overall" as a format with a beginning and end, well then I personally don't think I'm going to put much faith in anything he has to say here (or anywhere)...  He's happy there, and I am happy for him...  Here he'd maybe drift off mentally while reading someone's reply or something.  Who knows.   Different strokes for different folks, and this obviously isn't his place to find out what Willis is talkin' 'bout.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on June 26, 2006, 02:18 AM
Most of the mods are jerks who don't care about the members (except for GNT--he's cool)

Gwuh?!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on June 26, 2006, 02:22 AM
And... the thread in RS has vanished into the ether.  And I'll never know what anybody posted during the hour I was watching Dead Zone.  Such a pity...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2006, 02:36 AM
Well Bill...  You missed little.

There was a plethora of sucking one another off between two Scummer die-hards, Rob trying to point out that FlimFlam's a hypocrite, some people who've never seemingly been around either site long enough to understand WHY a thread exists here in the first place, and more of the sucking off between the two aforementioned drama queens...

Oh and then the lock and disappearance of said thread, which should stand as perfect example of why this thread exists in the first place here...  It doesn't disappear, and it's only locked when we feel it's a necessity to settle things.

Your post to them fell on completely deaf ears Bill, but the point was nice, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 26, 2006, 02:50 AM
I missed the whole thing too.

Damn Jack Black movies and fine Italian cuisine!

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on June 26, 2006, 08:21 AM
I missed the whole thing too.

Damn Jack Black movies and fine Italian cuisine!



You didn't miss anything ... trust me.  I read it at first, but it then started to bore me as it pretty much turned into a chat room.  For as much as I post over there, you can easily tell the threads that wear on my nerves ... because you won't see my presence in them for long.
Be happy that you were spared the ****, Josh.
As being someone that posts at both sites, I don't see why there can't be a co-existence.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 26, 2006, 10:05 AM
I certainly hope the JD thread over there wouldn't phase anyone. We know we're a different kind of crowd here, and that should be good enough. And any half intelligent person reading through either this or that thread should be able to figure out in two posts  the difference in quality. If they can't, then we would never want them here in the first place.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 26, 2006, 10:38 AM
Subak, who the **** are you anyway?  You signed on it seems explicitly to talk about Rebelscum and how we need to be buddies around here, yet you're at Rebelscum saying about how much you don't care for us basically...

I believe someone was drawing the conclusion that subak is Greenday101, or Shaak Ti, or whatever the **** the confused little boy goes by anymore.

A guy complained that my reviews are too long and they didn't have an end in his view...  If that guy finds that reading is difficult, or that he can't grasp "Opening, Pro, Con, Overall" as a format with a beginning and end, well then I personally don't think I'm going to put much faith in anything he has to say here (or anywhere)...

I saw that statement. That kid (Toyoda) was reaching real hard to find something to put us down for, just to excersize his loyalty for RS in front of the others... Taking a shot at your reviews, just to say something negative about JediDefender, is pretty moronic - and I wouldn't expect that from anyone who has beef with us. Maybe from a little kid who couldn't concentrate to read more than the title of a picture book. Another little kid (Nirvana) said something to the effect of our Customizer people being the only nice ones here... Typical.

The fact is LJ and some others look to stir the pot it seems.

Bertha likes to think she's more than a freckle on an asscheek, but she's really nowhere on our radar... I noticed last night that she was constantly on MisterKitKatKenobi, trying to one-up him with lameass "Yea, they don't like me either!!!!!!!" sort of comments. Reminded me of one of those little kids who try to shadow bigger, cooler kids. Bertha's come off as two-faced to me - and not just because of the lame hidden identity thing, ala Greg(g)...

Speakings of Greg(g)...

Most of the mods are jerks who don't care about the members (except for GNT--he's cool)

Gwuh?!

I thought Roton was being sarcastic - but, alas.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 26, 2006, 11:01 AM
   The Thread over there was quite hilarious. Some one would make the point does it matter, this is only causing trouble, and then they gave points why some people preferred JD or RS and that, that was ok to have different sites. (Cable and I had posts like that and Lady Jaye was kinda' flip flopping :-\), and the **** would  keep on going,  ??? Why do they insist on stirring up trouble, it only gives us more stuff to say WTF is going on over there. ::)


Smarty
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 26, 2006, 01:04 PM
I caught the tail end of the whole thing, so I was trying to figure out why everyone loved the little post padder guy who had come in and started a million threads.

Usually people are like "Ban that guy! Ban that guy!", but last night it was like "Isn't love grand? Wasn't that guy great?"

I felt like I missed something extraordinary.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2006, 01:12 PM
There wasn't much to see.  I'm over the whole RS vs JD thing.  But I can't stand it when Matkatflimflam opens his mouth and spews more of his know-it-all vomit.

He's so full of himself, yet so completely idiotic and hypocritical... I've never seen anything like it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 26, 2006, 02:07 PM
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There wasn't much to see.  I'm over the whole RS vs JD thing

I think most people probably realized it's kind of a non-issue these days...except for a few of the people there (and a few here) that are banned from the other respective site.

For those folks, my personal theory is that it's sort of like being angry because this club that several people you know are still partying at won't let you in anymore. Maybe you got drunk there one too many times and so you're banned for life......but your friends still have fun there, adding insult to that injury.   

Or maybe that's just a dumb analogy.  ;D



  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: subak on June 26, 2006, 03:59 PM
Yep, I got banned and started something grand. >:( ;D
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Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: subak on June 26, 2006, 04:09 PM
Good god this is dumb...

Subak, who the **** are you anyway?  You signed on it seems explicitly to talk about Rebelscum and how we need to be buddies around here, yet you're at Rebelscum saying about how much you don't care for us basically...  Am I missing something or are you just really needing something to keep your fingers busy tonight?

No offense meant by this, but you're coming off as a bit of a tool with that...  By all means, Scum-4-life for you...  There's the door.
Nah, I just all of us(JD&RS) to be friends man, you know play some D&D stuff like that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2006, 05:00 PM
Don't quote my entire post, it's annoying.  Only quote what's pertienent to discussion...  I edited it for you.

Now to your point... 

Like I said, you have a funny way of showing it.  You didn't seem to come into our thread here with any firm grasp of the point of this thread...  There's no between-site-fighting, that's in your head.  Sometimes though dumb things creep up over there and do deserve discussion since more than a few of us read the forums there...  I pop in to read sometimes I know, in the topics I find interesting.  We know the RS people come over here to read things too that they find interesting... 

This thread's allowed here because it basically isn't there.  Your impressions between the two sites are skewed.  The only people there who strongly dislike us are the people not welcome here anymore...  MisterKitKatKenobi's banned, LadyJaye's usually not given any preferential treatment towards her quirks...  It irks them so they rant about us over there.  We have people here not allowed in over there though that like pointing out when something dumb happens, and we have a thread all lined up for it.  Case-in-point, MisterKenobi getting himself suspended by being a complete homophobe, and also a bit of a baffoon, on their Dear Hasbro forum...  You have to laugh at that, but if you tried over there you'd have your thread locked.

As far as D&D that requires math skills.  I wouldn't count on all the folks over there having those from what I witnessed. :)

Have a good one Greenday101, err I mean Subak.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: subak on June 26, 2006, 05:08 PM
lol greenday, Cannabis..get it?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2006, 05:13 PM
If you're contageous, please god leave now.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on June 26, 2006, 05:35 PM
You are being really generous with the idiot, JJ...

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: subak on June 26, 2006, 06:29 PM
dude, what you think I'm an idiot, why? :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on June 26, 2006, 06:30 PM
dude, what you think I'm an idiot, why? :'(

Go back and read your posts.  That pretty much answers your questions. 

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on June 26, 2006, 06:43 PM
Most of the mods are jerks who don't care about the members (except for GNT--he's cool)

Gwuh?!

I thought Roton was being sarcastic - but, alas.

I was kind of referring to the way he has been towards me. I know some others have had problems with him, but I've always been *somewhat* fond of him.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 26, 2006, 07:00 PM
Last night was basically a verbal fight between the two RS users 'Killer185' and the infamous MisterKenobi...I tried to stay neutral, and I logged on today to find that the thread on JD had mysteriously vanished as well as all other threads created by subak.

Why are we letting him here anyways?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2006, 07:05 PM
Wow, I get my own hate thread:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1975840&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=1&PHPSESSID=

What an honor.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 26, 2006, 07:22 PM
I missed it. What did it say?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 26, 2006, 07:26 PM
Wow. Apparently the thread got deleted in the 20 minutes between you posted and I clicked the link.

Another example why some mods are really retarded.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2006, 07:28 PM
Well I'm not going to complain that they locked down a thread that was designed to talk about how much some unnamed troll (and MisterKenobi) hated me... but here were the two pertinent posts:

mocuishle:

Quote
The Official...

This thread should be dedicated to why we hate Kneel_before_zod.. Hmm lets see. He is arrogant.. Rude... Entirely to liberal... Speaks his mind on a continous bases... Most of all. He actually believes that global warming is that serious.. It seems to me that he is exploiting our fear.. Michael Moore probably spoonfeeds all is rebuttals.. Comments?

----------------
Mister Kenobi:

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I don't know what you're talking about. Zod's awesome. He is one of the oldest members here, and he has the super high post count that gives him the Emperor rank, which of course makes him cool.

I for one don't appreciate you coming in here and trash talking Rob. He is one of the smartest and funniest posters around. Why would ANYONE have a problem with this guy? Rob is very respectful and almost never acts like an utter [censored] hole. He is clearly a credit to the SW community!

Weird.

Other than that - no one really seemed to hate me very much at all.

And Matkat is still doing a great job of ignoring me it would seem...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 26, 2006, 07:36 PM
Well I'm not going to complain that they locked down a thread that was designed to talk about how much some unnamed troll (and MisterKenobi) hated me... but here were the two pertinent posts:

mocuishle:

The Official...

This thread should be dedicated to why we hate Kneel_before_zod.. Hmm lets see. He is arrogant.. Rude... Entirely to liberal... Speaks his mind on a continous bases... Most of all. He actually believes that global warming is that serious.. It seems to me that he is exploiting our fear.. Michael Moore probably spoonfeeds all is rebuttals.. Comments?

Quote

Well, they were right about the liberal thing at least.  If you can get past that, Rob's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 26, 2006, 07:37 PM
Wow. Apparently the thread got deleted in the 20 minutes between you posted and I clicked the link.

Another example why some mods are really retarded.

Playing both sides, Nirvana? I seem to remember you, of all people, trashing JD last night over in the RS forums...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 26, 2006, 07:44 PM
Oh for the love of God, just look at us.  Let me sum up this thread:

"My little plastic space men site is better than your little plastic space man site and your site sucks!!!"

Okay then.

We all look like we chronically had our heads flushed down toilets in high school at the moment.  So sad.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on June 26, 2006, 07:59 PM
I hate Rob.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on June 26, 2006, 08:46 PM
"My little plastic space men site is better than your little plastic space man site and your site sucks!!!"

Well my little plastic space men site is obviously better than anyone else's since I have little tanks for my men to fight with!!


 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: whatamigoing2do on June 26, 2006, 08:48 PM
rob ,
So sorry to hear that you have your own hate thread.. Personally, I find you very amusing..
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2006, 08:50 PM
I hate Rob.

Yeah but that's only because I hated you first.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 26, 2006, 08:51 PM
rob ,
So sorry to hear that you have your own hate thread.. Personally, I find you very amusing..

And which scummer might you be?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 26, 2006, 08:56 PM
He's Iamsith.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on June 26, 2006, 09:40 PM
"My little plastic space men site is better than your little plastic space man site and your site sucks!!!"

Well my little plastic space men site is obviously better than anyone else's since I have little tanks for my men to fight with!!


 :)

Nobody's little plastic space men site sucks like my little plastic space men site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on June 26, 2006, 10:50 PM
Wow, I get my own hate thread:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1975840&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=&vc=1&PHPSESSID=

What an honor.

I hate Rob because he doesn't know how to tag a url properly so that it doesn't **** up the formatting of the page for everybody else.

*******.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 26, 2006, 10:53 PM
I want my own hate thread. :'( You are so lucky!!

Actually I wish they would post it over at RS. ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on June 26, 2006, 11:16 PM
I hate Rob because he doesn't know how to tag a url properly so that it doesn't **** up the formatting of the page for everybody else.

*******.

I hate Matthew for quoting other people's poorly-tagged URLs, thereby ******* up yet another page's formatting...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 26, 2006, 11:18 PM
Wow. Apparently the thread got deleted in the 20 minutes between you posted and I clicked the link.

Another example why some mods are really retarded.

Playing both sides, Nirvana? I seem to remember you, of all people, trashing JD last night over in the RS forums...


When did I trash JD, AE?

I wasn't trashing JD, I love this site. It's pretty much my home base. I simply said that I don't especially care for some users here, but that's gonna be like that everywhere you go. If I could look up my posts last night, I'd show you.  :) I hate the mods on RS, JD is really much better.

I also said I didn't understand why RS and JD hate each other, I think it's just a matter of bad blood between some people.

This whole rift is stupid.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2006, 11:18 PM
I hate Rob because he doesn't know how to tag a url properly so that it doesn't **** up the formatting of the page for everybody else.

*******.

Hey now, don't blame me just because you have your monitor set to 800x600.   (http://www.acuraworld.com/forums/images/smilies/hide.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 26, 2006, 11:23 PM
Well, Nirvana, since the thread is gone I can't really check myself - but I'll take your word for it... No harm done, regardless of what was said there.

 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 26, 2006, 11:27 PM
Thanks, man, I love this site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2006, 11:28 PM
Nobody's little plastic space men site sucks like my little plastic space men site.

Yeah but you try for that...  It's when you don't try that is important.

I hate Rob too...  He literally pissed in my cornflakes once.  This, of course, gave me the expression on my face that someone had pissed in my cornflakes.  I was obviously upset then when people asked who and I told them Rob did...  He's a jerk like that.  

I'm assuming Rob pissed in MisterKitKatKenobi's cornflakes at some point because that guy sure as sunshine loves to talk about Rob, who is supposedly ignored.  So that's where we are with Rob hatred.

On the issue of summing up last night's goober-fest on Rebelscum, honestly there wasn't much back and forth about which site was great and which sucked.  Something came up there about this thread courtesy of Subak, and then some people we've had to ban or reprimand in the past from our site chimed in about how they hate it here...  Couple other people did.  Rob just pissed in people's cornflakes and then it got deleted never to be seen again by anyone who gave a ****.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2006, 11:30 PM
I did a hell of a lot more than piss in MatKat's cornflakes.   :-X
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2006, 11:37 PM
Cocoa puffs?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on June 26, 2006, 11:40 PM
Cocoa puffs?

I was thinking more along the lines of Cream of Wheat.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2006, 11:47 PM
***shudder***

I pretty much can write off wanting anything from Kellogs or General Mills in the near future I can see.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 26, 2006, 11:55 PM



When did I trash JD, AE?

I wasn't trashing JD, I love this site. It's pretty much my home base. I simply said that I don't especially care for some users here, but that's gonna be like that everywhere you go.


Before I thought I hated Rob.  But now I realize I just hated you the whole time.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on June 26, 2006, 11:57 PM
Okay. But why do you hate me?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Artoo on June 26, 2006, 11:58 PM
Eh,I was banned or locked there for getting mad at a scalper at the Jax section (where I live) & used the "fugger" somewhere else. ::) I thought that wasn't as bad as ******.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 27, 2006, 11:15 PM
Cocoa puffs?

I was thinking more along the lines of Cream of Wheat.  ;D

LOL Man that is soo wrong. Thanks for the laugh though. LMAO
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 29, 2006, 02:18 AM
I wonder how long it would take the staff here to respond to a reported post.  RS is under a spam attack right now and I just want to do a little experiment.

I'll be reporting my own post right after I post this.  Please reply just to confirm that you guys would notice it.  The spammers were thinking about heading here next, and I thought it would be fun to test the EBS before they ever get here.

-Josh
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 29, 2006, 02:21 AM
We've got our eye on the situation at Rebelscum... and we're keeping an eye out for any newcommers here, as well...


So, uh... did we pass the response test?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 29, 2006, 02:26 AM
Yes. I admit it was a silly thing to do, but I was just curious how fast the response would be over here if they did choose to bring the immaturity to this neck of the woods like someone suggested.

Good to know you guys keep the light on 24 hours a day, just like Motel 6.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2006, 02:34 AM
Been watching the show.  It's sad really for everyone involved.

What I feel is the funny part though is the couple of people that are responding to them in serious tones...  I mean, here's $.25, go buy a clue.

BTW they got one thing right...  They seem to have a good beed on MisterKenobi at least. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 29, 2006, 02:36 AM
Well, we rarely have any situations blow up to the magnitude that the Rebelscum incident has, beit because of our staff being ever-present/vigilant or because we have less traffic... but we still try and keep a watch out, just in case.

We did have one incident a week or so ago, I believe... but that was contained relatively quickly.


Am I the only one wondering why Depmode has such a massive chip on his shoulder towards JD that he'd practically beg those spammers to come over here and bother us, though? I thought that was pretty sorry on his part... Perhaps he was just kidding around, but somehow I doubt it. Oh well...

Isn't this the second consecutive night that there's been alot of spamming at RS? School must be out for the summer, eh?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 29, 2006, 02:38 AM
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They seem to have a good beed on MisterKenobi at least.

I don't know. I think the demonstration would have been much more effective if they actually gave him some ****.

He'll never even see anything they said.

I've always enjoyed insulting people in person (or on the internet) where they can hear it and then argue with me about what I said.  


And yeah, I don't know what the deal is this week.  I guess the kids are out of school and bored.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2006, 02:40 AM
Dep's comments certainly didn't go unnoticed...  joking or not they are a nuisance for us so he's obviously not earned anyone's respect here.

My comment about them having a good beed on MK is just that though Josh, they seem to have him pegged fairly well for the type of person he is as I've seen, that's all.  If the guy isn't around it goes unnoticed but honestly whoever they want to annoy is irrelevant.  I'm sure they don't care.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2006, 02:43 AM
Oh, and I speak too soon...  They seem to have GNT pretty well covered too.  ;D  I guess they got 2 things right.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 29, 2006, 02:46 AM
I started wondering if they said they did it because they hate MisterK in some half-assed attempt to set me up.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2006, 02:48 AM
*shrugs*

Anything is possible Rob, honestly.  That's as believable a situation as anything...

My new favorite moment though is that some new mod they have can't take action since I guess it's not his room or some such.  That's funny for a whole other set of reasons.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 29, 2006, 02:53 AM
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*shrugs*

Anything is possible Rob, honestly.  That's as believable a situation as anything...

I don't think anyone would confuse the little spam attack tonight with anything you'd do.

I'd like to think if you ever went off the deep end and decided to trash everyone you hated, it would be done more efficiently than by talking about Darth Vader's Dick.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 29, 2006, 02:57 AM
The only avaliable mod is out of jurisdiction to do anything about the spamming? Ouch! I'm hoping for the mods' sake that their forum software allows them to delete all of the offenders' threads in one click - instead of having to scoop up that big pile of **** a handful at a time.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2006, 02:58 AM
I have no doubt that more than a couple people will blame Rob and/or others from here for their spam bout.  

Brad's last comment made me think how rough the job'd be if they actually decided to go prowl threads that are already popular/current/established.  That'd be worse.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 29, 2006, 03:11 AM
Well I've got nothing to do with it whatsoever.  I'm trying to play nice over there - despite my loathing of the same guy that the trolls hate all of the sudden.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2006, 03:12 AM
They have all the info, they'll know what to do when one of them becomes aware of what's going on and they'll ban those kids for the short period of time they can.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on June 29, 2006, 08:19 AM
They have all the info, they'll know what to do when one of them becomes aware of what's going on and they'll ban those kids for the short period of time they can.

It doesn't matter.  The worthless little ******* will just sign up again under a new screen name.  Man, how I love the summer time on message boards.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 29, 2006, 01:34 PM
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It doesn't matter.  The worthless little ******* will just sign up again under a new screen name.  Man, how I love the summer time on message boards.

Yeah. It makes me feel old, because every year I find myself wishing more and more that they'd hurry back to school.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JeffGlow on June 29, 2006, 11:19 PM
Just wanted to drop in and say hey and let everyone know that I signed up with an account here now too in addition to RS!  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 29, 2006, 11:28 PM
Welcome aboard Jeff - nice to see you over here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 30, 2006, 01:15 AM
Welcome aboard Jeff, go intro yourself and tell us some about yourself in our introduction section just below here...  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on June 30, 2006, 01:52 AM
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It doesn't matter.  The worthless little ******* will just sign up again under a new screen name.  Man, how I love the summer time on message boards.

Yeah. It makes me feel old, because every year I find myself wishing more and more that they'd hurry back to school.  ;D

Josh, you made me think of a commercial that Office Max had several years ago, where the Dad walks in with the cart, the two kids are depressed and the music is "It's the most wonderful time of the year."
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Iamsith on June 30, 2006, 09:07 PM
welcome jeff!!!  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on July 1, 2006, 12:56 AM
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"It's the most wonderful time of the year."

That's exactly what I'll do.  Dance a little dance because their math homework assignments will keep them too busy to run and post 24 threads in a night about some such nonsense.

BTW...Misterkenobi says he would love for all the little grudges to be over with.  No really..

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=1970097&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=7

There ya go.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on July 1, 2006, 01:09 AM
That's so gay.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 1, 2006, 01:58 AM
Ian apparantly didn't get your point Josh about "comin' in guns blazin'" and all that stuff...  KitKatGoddam is banned because he came in with his first post littered with insults and basically he was on to simply troll and pick a fight with the staff here.  I forget what drove him to do so, but that's the situation...  He was toyed with for a short time then banned because interest in it wavered, it was late, and it got old fast.  He was actually given a shot to speak his mind but decided to troll instead. 

To be honest though I don't think many would look at him any differently.  I think you're giving too much credit to his post there Josh, but that's just me I guess.  Considering he's not part of this site in any way he ultimately shouldn't care, despite him always proving he does.

The fact is, the reason he's banned goes beyond what he did to trigger his ban though...  When you are that disrespectful of others, overbearing, condescending, ignorant, and display a general pompous nature in how you treat communities you're involved with, you're not a welcomed person here and you shouldn't be at any other self-respecting community either.  To be perfectly honest there's a number of folks at Scum that would be banned here because of their routine behavior...  KitKat's not the only one we've banned, and there are others there who I know just would beg to be dealt with over here because they treat other people like **** from the day they sign on to the day they clam up...  It's just how some people are and we don't play games with them.

As far as who he's talking about in that thread though, I don't really know unless I guess he meant Dr. Zoltar?  Rob makes his opinion of KitKatGoddam pretty blatantly clear over there over there, and visa versa.  Rob is a good forum member there though and always has been...  He just sees the guy for who he is.  I don't know what Zoltar did to become the target at that point but he's right ultimately...  Calling people gay as an insult probably doesn't sit well with people who actually are gay...  It happens, but that doesn't make it right, and I think that's the point Zoltar is making there.

For him to come back on Zoltar with basically, "You annoy me because you criticize how I insult people/groups" or whatnot is asinine in and of itself.  It's one of those moments it is best to keep your mouth shut because there's no positive spin to put to that issue.  Of course, that ain't gonna happen though, now is it? :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on July 1, 2006, 10:42 AM
This is a little off-topic -- but it was an interesting little tid-bit I wanted to share.  A while back I seem to remember our good friend talking about how he was moving from the armpit of America, aka Oklahoma to the big, exciting, glamorous city of DC and we that should all be jealous of him.   I grew up in that area and it seems that he has moved to what is known as THE hairy, smelly armpit of the MD/DC suburbs.  I doesn't get much cheesier than Waldorf, MD.  It's hardly the big city that he was bragging about.  In fact, its quite the joke in that area.  It just gives me a little chuckle everytime I see Waldorf, MD under his name........
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 1, 2006, 01:04 PM
There is nothing MisterK could do to get back into people's good graces shy of spend the next year acting like the opposite of an *******.


I'm confident that he doesn't have the capacity.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 1, 2006, 01:11 PM
There is nothing MisterK could do to get back into people's good graces shy of spend the next year acting like the opposite of an *******.


I'm confident that he doesn't have the capacity.

But he's trying SO hard to be a kissass...

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Gay people rule though. They're awesome and fun people.
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Thank you for sharing that, mrmforceX. I applaud your bravery.

What a ****sucker. And I woulda said that even if the topic wasn't homosexuality.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on July 1, 2006, 03:33 PM
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There is nothing MisterK could do to get back into people's good graces shy of spend the next year acting like the opposite of an *******.

That may be true. I was just pointing out I think the desire might be there.  The fact that he constantly reads this site means to me that he is interested in how the folks over here view him.  Maybe he does want to cool down?  Who knows?

As for the comments in the gay thread, I didn't buy them either, but he says he's being genuine.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on July 2, 2006, 12:22 AM
Very interesting.  If he's serious, I'm awaiting that PM stating he's sorry for being such an ass to everyone.

I could call him out over on RS, but I'm sure that's a fairly quick way to get the thread deleted and myself banned.

I love his "People who pretend to be offended by the word gay who aren't gay."  Oh darn.  So I can't be offended if someone calls by wife "Bitch" or my African-American co-worker "******" or my Middle-Eastern friend "Towel Head"?  Get real.  If MK really wants to change and is concerned how people perceive him, it's going to take a while for people to fully believe him.  I know it's going to take a while before I trust him.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 2, 2006, 03:42 AM
He does have a history of "going to the authorities" when anyone either calls him out on his BS or he gets into it with someone and they fire back a few times...  He's been proud of it to the point of gloating about it publicly so I have no doubt that anything you said there would wind up with him sicking his handler Dustin on you.

My last line just made me think of Lewis Black's most recent HBO special and a bit he did...  Eh, it's late and I'm making myself chuckle a little bit. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on July 2, 2006, 09:19 PM
I always miss all the fun.  I was on vacation... what went down at the Scum?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 3, 2006, 01:06 AM
School let out + the internet was invented + Scum has no mods on = Rebelscum was spammed senseless by kiddies.  It wasn't much really Bill, just a couple people here happened to be observing it as it went down.  Lots of bonehead threads in a short period of time, and no mod to deal with it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Artoo on July 3, 2006, 02:18 AM
Yeah,when I joined there was this kid who spammed like hell.That little brat was freakin' annoying.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on July 3, 2006, 04:30 AM
Yeah,when I joined there was this kid who spammed like hell.That little brat was freakin' annoying.

Greenday?  Just kidding....

I agree.  Alot of idiots join Rebelscum, and spam the crap out of it.  The only funny thing is, that some people there blame everything on greenday.  They blame everything on greenday.  Some of it's true, and some of it's not.  Rebelscum has alot of spammers, but I'll bet not all of them are greenday.  It's just sorta rediculous, if you ask me.  :-\

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 3, 2006, 11:42 AM
Some of those people blame everything on JD staff members - which is nonsense.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on July 3, 2006, 12:12 PM
As far as who he's talking about in that thread though, I don't really know unless I guess he meant Dr. Zoltar?  Rob makes his opinion of KitKatGoddam pretty blatantly clear over there over there, and visa versa.  Rob is a good forum member there though and always has been...  He just sees the guy for who he is.  I don't know what Zoltar did to become the target at that point but he's right ultimately...  Calling people gay as an insult probably doesn't sit well with people who actually are gay...  It happens, but that doesn't make it right, and I think that's the point Zoltar is making there.

For him to come back on Zoltar with basically, "You annoy me because you criticize how I insult people/groups" or whatnot is asinine in and of itself.  It's one of those moments it is best to keep your mouth shut because there's no positive spin to put to that issue.  Of course, that ain't gonna happen though, now is it? :)

You pretty much hit the nail on the head.  It all started when I made a post in the "Bands I don't like" thread.  I basically said I don't like band X but I like the lead singer's other band Y.  Then KitKatPattyWackGiveYouDogABone came in and said "Band Y is gay."

I used to just ignore the guy as an uneducated punk with a chip on his shoulder.  But he took a cheap shot at me so I decided to return the favor.  He needs to know that his behavior is not tolerated and that his views are not shared by the SW community at large.  I have a feeling that his on-line persona is much different that his in-person one.  Bullies of that nature tend to back down when confronted in person.

Maybe one day he will finally see what a jerk he’s been to posters in the past.  Until that time he can expect us to call him on all the insults he posts.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 3, 2006, 12:19 PM
He called it gay and not 'ghey'?    (like there's a difference)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on July 3, 2006, 01:57 PM
Heh.  So you saw THAT thread too, huh?  Yep, he said "gay" and later claimed he meant "ghey".  There was a small discussion on the proper use of the word (including definitions posted from dictionary.com and that other site that listed numerous definitions for "ghey") and then the discussion was dropped.  No one posted to it for days.  Come to find out that MK was banned for that "Dear Hasbro" stunt so he may have forgotten about it.

Like I stated earlier it's almost like MK is trying to get people to dislike him.  I mean, what other response do you expect when someone posts that what you just said was stupid?  Come on!  He can't be THAT dense.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 3, 2006, 02:21 PM
Heh.  So you saw THAT thread too, huh? 

Of course I did, I was the one telling him repeatedly what an idiot he was for thinking there was a difference. ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on July 3, 2006, 03:18 PM
Gotcha!  See how attentive I am when it come to stuff like that?   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on July 3, 2006, 06:57 PM
Some of those people blame everything on JD staff members - which is nonsense.

Are you serious?  I don't think any of the staff here would sink that low. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 3, 2006, 07:23 PM
We wouldn't - but almost all of JD's staff was banned a few months ago. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on July 3, 2006, 10:32 PM
We wouldn't - but almost all of JD's staff was banned a few months ago. 

Why was it that they let you keep your account over there?  Just curious .....
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 3, 2006, 10:36 PM
Heh.  So you saw THAT thread too, huh?  Yep, he said "gay" and later claimed he meant "ghey".  There was a small discussion on the proper use of the word (including definitions posted from dictionary.com and that other site that listed numerous definitions for "ghey") and then the discussion was dropped. 

Ha ha!!

(http://www.deadspin.com/archives/ozzieguillen.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 4, 2006, 12:45 AM
I'm getting pretty damn sick of RS...

There was a new user at RS who had the SN of "Helokitty" or something like that. He didn't make alot of sense, and he posted 2 threads on his custom (which really wasn't that bad, it just needed some work) as well as a thread in the Saga collection basically asking what SW product was in stores now, in an in-coherent, 3 words kind of way. This was around 4 pm today.

People gave him crap, made fun of his custom, and made fun of his other thread, , and were basically mean, pure and simple.

I just don't understand why people automatically assume all new users are trolls and spammers, it doesn't make sense.

So, I logged on today aound midnight and find that his customs thread is deleted as well as the topic he started in the Saga threads. This kinda ticked me off a bi, because those threads did have a point.

I'll stop venting now.  >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on July 4, 2006, 12:56 AM
Yeah, I read those threads. It made me mad.


The same thing happens every time:

1. A new user comes along
2. He starts a thread (every noob does it, whether they are a spammer or not)
3. People just claim he's either GreenDay or that he is only trying to spam the forums because he made a few spelling mistakes here and there.
4. This makes the user get mad.
5. Then he goes off and starts spamming.


If they would just welcome every new user equally (which means cutting them some slack), this stuff wouldn't happen.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 4, 2006, 12:57 AM
I'm getting pretty damn sick of RS...

There was a new user at RS who had the SN of "Helokitty" or something like that.

JediDefender is a HelloKitty-friendly (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12376.0) community.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on July 4, 2006, 01:35 AM
I have the most simple solution of all when it comes to a site you don't like:

Don't go there. Don't post there. Don't read their news. Don't support them. That's the only real way you can make a statement. Stop giving them the time of day.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 4, 2006, 01:41 AM
We'll dispose of someone incoherent too, but not because we assume they're a troll.  We just don't want that crap cluttering the boards.  Come back after keyboarding I and join in the fun...  asdf jkl; asdf jkl;  and so on.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 4, 2006, 02:14 AM
We wouldn't - but almost all of JD's staff was banned a few months ago. 

Why was it that they let you keep your account over there?  Just curious .....

They banned me at first.  Then some people made a fuss, and I was re-instated.  Dustin said I just got swept up in the tide, but that I'd been a member for too long without incident to get banned as well.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 4, 2006, 12:30 PM
Yeah, I read those threads. It made me mad.


The same thing happens every time:

1. A new user comes along
2. He starts a thread (every noob does it, whether they are a spammer or not)
3. People just claim he's either GreenDay or that he is only trying to spam the forums because he made a few spelling mistakes here and there.
4. This makes the user get mad.
5. Then he goes off and starts spamming.


If they would just welcome every new user equally (which means cutting them some slack), this stuff wouldn't happen.

True. However, RS has little motivation to do anything about that. At the end of the day, they've gotten a new registered member to help boost their advertising prices, whether that member fits in or not or whether they drive old members away. You can't take away the registration.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on July 5, 2006, 08:21 AM
We wouldn't - but almost all of JD's staff was banned a few months ago. 

Why was it that they let you keep your account over there?  Just curious .....

They banned me at first.  Then some people made a fuss, and I was re-instated.  Dustin said I just got swept up in the tide, but that I'd been a member for too long without incident to get banned as well.


Ah ... OK.  Thanks, Rob.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 5, 2006, 01:09 PM
I got banned and reinstated as well for the same reasons...  It was explained to me that one of their mod(d)'s was going around searching the boards for anyone with any hint that they were involved with JediDefender in some way...  Subsequently people who didn't even work here got banned simply for liking it here, namely CHEWIE.

From what I gathered, after Dustin and this mod(d) fubar'd everything, other staff intervened and reinstated a number of banned people with somewhat of an apology...  However the people who knee-jerked during the situation never took the time to do the apology themselves which I thought was classless at the time.  I've not been overly active there since then.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Xander on July 5, 2006, 01:34 PM
This always confused me, but one time this avatar : (http://www.swanshare.dreamhosters.com/images/amazing_icon.jpg)
got banned. Philip kept deleting it from my profile.  I finally wrote him, and he said it was innappropriate. Its hard to imagine not seeing worse routinely in all kinds of threads.

I got it from the cover of Amazing Stories, October 1949 (http://www.swanshare.dreamhosters.com/images/49%2520October.jpg)

(Sorry if this is an offensive picture!)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on July 5, 2006, 03:28 PM
This is a little off-topic -- but it was an interesting little tid-bit I wanted to share.  A while back I seem to remember our good friend talking about how he was moving from the armpit of America, aka Oklahoma to the big, exciting, glamorous city of DC and we that should all be jealous of him.   I grew up in that area and it seems that he has moved to what is known as THE hairy, smelly armpit of the MD/DC suburbs.  I doesn't get much cheesier than Waldorf, MD.  It's hardly the big city that he was bragging about.  In fact, its quite the joke in that area.  It just gives me a little chuckle everytime I see Waldorf, MD under his name........

It appears that as of yesterday, Katmandu's finally seen the light (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1970097&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=6&vc=1), Tracy...

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Southern Maryland and the DC area is the most annoying and irritating part of the country I have ever lived in... Overpopulation, high crime rates, overpopulation, the worst traffic I've ever seen 24/7, overpopulation, too many ghettos, overpopulation, and of course, tourists.

New city and state.  Still miserable.  Sounds like he'd be more than happy to move back to Oklahoma at this point.  Oh, the irony.  Heh.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on July 5, 2006, 03:36 PM
Too funny Matt.  I wonder if he caught wind of this and is trying to cover his ass by bitching about how much he hates where he has to live.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on July 5, 2006, 06:33 PM
I wonder what even prompted the move?  Most people I know just don't wake up and decide "Hey, I feel like moving half way across the country."  I have a family member that lives in MD due to being in the military and he doesn't care for it much for the same reasons MK listed.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 5, 2006, 09:07 PM
Both Matt and his wife are/were in the military. I'm fairly certain a military transfer was the reason for the move.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 5, 2006, 09:30 PM
I believe he said that's why he moved, yes Anton.  That's not much of a choice of place to go, though I do find it funny he was gung-ho about the move. :)  I have enough family in MD to know I don't want to live in MD.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 5, 2006, 10:50 PM
Both Matt and his wife are/were in the military. I'm fairly certain a military transfer was the reason for the move.

I thought he was out of the Air Force for some sort of medical reason.  I hope that's true...I don't want to claim him as being int he same branch of the military as me.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on July 5, 2006, 11:04 PM
Here's a thought.  Why not just ask the guy?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on July 6, 2006, 12:00 AM
Here's a thought.  Why not just ask the guy?

Hmmm...I guess no one wants to be the one called a *** for asking?   ???

John
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on July 6, 2006, 12:26 AM
Here's a thought.  Why not just ask the guy?
Hmmm...I guess no one wants to be the one called a *** for asking?   ???

John

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on July 6, 2006, 07:09 AM
Here's a thought.  Why not just ask the guy?

Hmmm...I guess no one wants to be the one called a *** for asking?   ???

John

What would he call me if I asked?  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on July 6, 2006, 09:59 AM
Here's a thought.  Why not just ask the guy?

Hmmm...I guess no one wants to be the one called a *** for asking?   ???

John

What would he call me if I asked?  ::)

Oh I'm sure he'd come up with an equally bigoted term.  He's reliable like that.  :)

John
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Ennis on July 6, 2006, 11:50 PM
I just can't beleive this thread is still going on. ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2006, 12:10 AM
I just can't believe our software doesn't require us to make a 'part 2' thread when we get to 500 posts on a topic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on July 7, 2006, 01:55 AM
I just can't believe our software doesn't require us to make a 'part 2' thread when we get to 500 posts on a topic.

I just do that, because it's easier to refer to one post in a 10 page thread, rather than a 500000 page thread (Trust me, I've tried it, it's not fun)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2006, 02:02 AM
Rebelscum requires it.  500 posts and that's it.  The issue started when they converted their old software to the new software - the old War and Politics (somethingl ike 10,000 posts at the time) wouldn't open.  They blamed it on the new software and started us a new thread from scratch.

And that's been the rule ever since.

The software CAN handle bigger threads - ours in the local DFW section went well over 500 without incident, but for some reason they still insist on making part 3, part 4, part 9 of certain threads.

Baffling.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on July 7, 2006, 02:22 AM
Well, I don't know much about the software that they're using (UBB) I know alot about IPB, phpBB and SMF (the stuff this site's using), because I've used them all, and I'm OK with vBulletin.

I've never worked with software that's had problems with really long threads, and I probably won't.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 7, 2006, 04:01 PM
For some reason, a thread that contained the pretty awesome news about a terrorist attack foiled was locked.

Apparently, it had no place there.  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on July 7, 2006, 05:01 PM
What, are you new?  ;D

War and Politcal threads have been banned there for years, Just like they are here, and on most Star Wars boards.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2006, 05:05 PM
...and for the record, I didn't report that one.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: jjks on July 7, 2006, 05:32 PM
I loved the smugness that Myatt locked it with. Wonder if the bridges had been leading into Canada if he would have left them open?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 7, 2006, 06:00 PM
What, are you new?  ;D

War and Politcal threads have been banned there for years, Just like they are here, and on most Star Wars boards.

Not really...

It wasn't a politcs thread, it was a current events thread.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on July 7, 2006, 06:04 PM
Quote
Not really...

It wasn't a politcs thread, it was a current events thread.

Concerning events related to the war on terror. There's not a hotter political topic out there that I can think of.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2006, 07:23 PM

Not really...

It wasn't a politcs thread, it was a current events thread.



Last time I checked, King George calls it that Global War on Terror (or is it the global war on radical extremists...?)

You can't get much more related to the war than that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 8, 2006, 03:24 PM
Ugh.

Some new user just littered Wuher's threads and his own topics with really disgusting pictures...don't click on them, I hope they're deleted.

 :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on July 8, 2006, 03:32 PM
Does anyone here know how to get ahold of moderators from RS?  We have a big problem over there today.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 8, 2006, 03:36 PM
Well, everything's back to normal now. Quick action by the mods, I guess...

EDIT- Well, his topics are gone, but his posts in other threads aren't. The Ignore function is a wonderful tool.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2006, 03:55 PM
What exactly happened?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 8, 2006, 04:06 PM
Well, a user by the name of 'HelloMax' posted three topics, I think: 'Gaysauce', 'Liberals Suck', and a thread about Bush... all had distubring pictures of male body parts, etc. They were all deleted in about 20 minutes I think.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 8, 2006, 04:55 PM
20 minutes of man ham for the kiddies to forever be scarred by I guess.

Last time anyone from here tried contacting the mods there I believe they were told to "get a life".  I could be wrong on that one though. ;)

Seriously the only thing you can do is report the post and hope one of them is on soon to deal with the issue.  Most everyone they've ever hired to mod there though has been so irresponsible with their "power" that it's no wonder they don't hire new.  When you look at the behavior on a daily basis out of some of their fired mods, it's a wonder anyone would've trusted them with any level of authority over others...  It's like giving a stun baton to a 4th grade hall monitor.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on July 8, 2006, 05:00 PM
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Most everyone they've ever hired to mod there though has been so irresponsible with their "power" that it's no wonder they don't hire new.

Hey now, not everyone.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 8, 2006, 05:06 PM
"most everyone".

I was careful with my wording. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on July 8, 2006, 08:34 PM
Oh no ... he was specifically referring to you, Josh.
 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on July 8, 2006, 10:46 PM
I'll bet so many people've asked to be a moderator at Scum.  They have so many spammers that don't get taken care of, yet they aren't hiring anyone.  I guess power abuse was one of the reasons. 

One thing that sorta gets under my skin about the scum is that people like b0bafett77 are still members, while people like Sev get suspended.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on July 8, 2006, 10:52 PM
One thing that sorta gets under my skin about the scum is that people like b0bafett77 are still members, while people like Sev get suspended.

1. Ahh...the 2 noobs I hate the most: b0bafett77 and nihilus_guy.

2. Why was Sev suspended?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on July 9, 2006, 12:25 AM
One thing that sorta gets under my skin about the scum is that people like b0bafett77 are still members, while people like Sev get suspended.

1. Ahh...the 2 noobs I hate the most: b0bafett77 and nihilus_guy.

2. Why was Sev suspended?

Not sure, he never told me, but he asked me to help him out with a trade while he was suspended. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on July 11, 2006, 09:45 AM
Does anyone here know how to get ahold of moderators from RS?  We have a big problem over there today.

???

Why would you come here to try to contact RS mod?  I'm not so sure that the "we" you are talking about includes most of the community here.  In fact, there's probably a good number here who delight in RS's problems.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lord Mantha on July 12, 2006, 05:37 AM
i love the crap RS has to go through all the time. now i hear that some n00b is posting nasty, and possibly shock images on wuhers? add this to the time someone posted a thread in wuhers that simply read "[censored] everybody here" as well as the one, the only,


.......Greenday...

i actually enjoy when he comes back on RS and starts his usual dumbass topics. it gives me such a great laugh
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on July 12, 2006, 02:23 PM
i love the crap RS has to go through all the time. now i hear that some n00b is posting nasty, and possibly shock images on wuhers? add this to the time someone posted a thread in wuhers that simply read "[censored] everybody here" as well as the one, the only,


.......Greenday...

i actually enjoy when he comes back on RS and starts his usual dumbass topics. it gives me such a great laugh

Yeah, I enjoy that too sometimes (Unless he comes on TSE or this site)

It's also kinda funny how whenever something goes wrong over there, they blame it on Greenday.  It get's to the point where "greenday" seems like some sort of "evil" that can't be stopped  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on July 12, 2006, 02:56 PM
One thing that sorta gets under my skin about the scum is that people like b0bafett77 are still members, while people like Sev get suspended.

1. Ahh...the 2 noobs I hate the most: b0bafett77 and nihilus_guy.

2. Why was Sev suspended?

Not sure, he never told me, but he asked me to help him out with a trade while he was suspended. 

Are you talking about SEV from San Antonio?  I saw him online yesterday, on the RS boards.  He is in our local collector's club.  We had to set up a separate site b/c the RS Area Reports were being monitored by the local scalpers.  The San Antonio thread is all but dead now.  (That is one of my biggest problems with thr RS boards.)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on July 12, 2006, 03:20 PM
Are you talking about SEV from San Antonio?  I saw him online yesterday, on the RS boards.  He is in our local collector's club.  We had to set up a separate site b/c the RS Area Reports were being monitored by the local scalpers.  The San Antonio thread is all but dead now.  (That is one of my biggest problems with thr RS boards.)

Set up a code system for each store like we did in the Rochester thread.  Then, you only give the code list out to people you trust and want to have it.  It's worked rather well for us.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on July 12, 2006, 06:11 PM
One thing that sorta gets under my skin about the scum is that people like b0bafett77 are still members, while people like Sev get suspended.

1. Ahh...the 2 noobs I hate the most: b0bafett77 and nihilus_guy.

2. Why was Sev suspended?

Not sure, he never told me, but he asked me to help him out with a trade while he was suspended. 

Are you talking about SEV from San Antonio?  I saw him online yesterday, on the RS boards.  He is in our local collector's club.  We had to set up a separate site b/c the RS Area Reports were being monitored by the local scalpers.  The San Antonio thread is all but dead now.  (That is one of my biggest problems with thr RS boards.)

That really sucks.  I sorta have an area reports thing going on at TSE.  He's not suspended anymore.  But what really pisses me off, is when members like Victor Von Doom, or Darth Rayne get banned/suspended.  (Yes it was a long time ago)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 12, 2006, 07:34 PM
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Set up a code system for each store like we did in the Rochester thread.  Then, you only give the code list out to people you trust and want to have it.  It's worked rather well for us.

Or just post here where only members can read the area reports.   :D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 12, 2006, 09:32 PM
What Matt said, plus we monitor the area closely and if there's a feared lurker you can alert us and we'll look into it...  We take the trades/classifieds area of our site seriously though, and think it needs special monitoring, so by all means take advantage of our work.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2006, 07:17 AM
He showed...
 (http://starwars.com/community/event/con/f20060718/20060718_picview/pictureviewer.html?imgNum=32&world=community)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Vader0519 on July 20, 2006, 11:59 AM
I was a rebelscum member (under a different name) for nearly 5 years. In that time, I have come across Philip's "unique" way of interacting with customers and forum members. I've felt that things were shady over there for some time, but this Dustin thing was the final straw for me. The way he "ran" the campaign, then the way he handled the legitimate criticism of that campaign, was enough for me.

I foresee this place as being my new collecting home   ;D   I will never pull up rebelscum.com on my comptuers ever again.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 20, 2006, 12:00 PM
Welcome to JD... What username did you go by?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Gamorrean Jedi on July 20, 2006, 01:27 PM
What Matt said, plus we monitor the area closely and if there's a feared lurker you can alert us and we'll look into it...  We take the trades/classifieds area of our site seriously though, and think it needs special monitoring, so by all means take advantage of our work.

Are you serous? I didn't think you had an aera report on this site anymore I'll have to go looking for it now that I'm logged in and out of lurker mode
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jeff on July 20, 2006, 01:31 PM
Are you serous? I didn't think you had an aera report on this site anymore

The Area/Store Reports sections here at JD were made private almost a year ago...

Store Reports section is now PRIVATE! (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8742.0)

To access the area and view the reports, you must be logged on with your registered account.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on July 20, 2006, 02:58 PM
Are you serous? I didn't think you had an aera report on this site anymore I'll have to go looking for it now that I'm logged in and out of lurker mode

Your Florida Finds thread was bumped just yesterday, as a matter of fact.  But yeah, you have to be logged in to view it now.  No more lurking alllowed here, so that should give you and any of your hunting friends a lot more privacy and security in your Finds discussion!  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 22, 2006, 04:16 PM
You know what ticks me off? Today I saw a user who has more posts than me. He reg'd on the end of last month. He's been there for less than a month, yet has 700 posts...I'll bet his posts are high quality... ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 22, 2006, 04:35 PM
You know what ticks me off? Today I saw a user who has more posts than me. He reg'd on the end of last month. He's been there for less than a month, yet has 700 posts...I'll bet his posts are high quality... ::)

Are you presuming or did you look at them(posts)? Post count..does it matter? Enough to get upset over? LOL- maybe he has more to talk about!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 22, 2006, 04:55 PM
You know what ticks me off? Today I saw a user who has more posts than me. He reg'd on the end of last month. He's been there for less than a month, yet has 700 posts...I'll bet his posts are high quality... ::)

Are you presuming or did you look at them(posts)? Post count..does it matter? Enough to get upset over? LOL- maybe he has more to talk about!

No, I really didn't, but that doesn't really matter. If someone posts 700 + times in under a month, do you really think they would?

I'm not fuming about it, it's just kinda funny.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on July 24, 2006, 12:20 AM
You know what ticks me off? Today I saw a user who has more posts than me. He reg'd on the end of last month. He's been there for less than a month, yet has 700 posts...I'll bet his posts are high quality... ::)

Are you presuming or did you look at them(posts)? Post count..does it matter? Enough to get upset over? LOL- maybe he has more to talk about!

No, I really didn't, but that doesn't really matter. If someone posts 700 + times in under a month, do you really think they would?

I'm not fuming about it, it's just kinda funny.

Any chance it's that Adam_S character?  Cause if so, he hasn't said a useful thing yet.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Artoo on July 24, 2006, 12:30 AM
I got banned and reinstated as well for the same reasons...  It was explained to me that one of their mod(d)'s was going around searching the boards for anyone with any hint that they were involved with JediDefender in some way...  Subsequently people who didn't even work here got banned simply for liking it here, namely CHEWIE.

From what I gathered, after Dustin and this mod(d) fubar'd everything, other staff intervened and reinstated a number of banned people with somewhat of an apology...  However the people who knee-jerked during the situation never took the time to do the apology themselves which I thought was classless at the time.  I've not been overly active there since then.
Now that you say that, that's probally why I got banned becuase non of the other local scalper flamers got banned. Jackasses. >:(

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Ennis on July 24, 2006, 12:36 PM
That Adam_S guy is a turd with nothing useful to say. He went on a string of trolling on the customs forum. Basicly just insulting younger customisers and all around troublemaking. I punked him about a week ago, and everyone else jumped on the bandwagon. So far he hasn't trolled since that I know of. I hate little bitches like that. >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on July 24, 2006, 05:44 PM
I actually stuck up for Adam-S ONCE!

reiterate..ONCE...

now, I placed his name in contention in the "things that irritate you" thread...  He is a NOOB to the nth degree.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on July 24, 2006, 07:09 PM
You know what ticks me off? Today I saw a user who has more posts than me. He reg'd on the end of last month. He's been there for less than a month, yet has 700 posts...I'll bet his posts are high quality... ::)


Are you presuming or did you look at them(posts)? Post count..does it matter? Enough to get upset over? LOL- maybe he has more to talk about!

No, I really didn't, but that doesn't really matter. If someone posts 700 + times in under a month, do you really think they would?

I'm not fuming about it, it's just kinda funny.

Any chance it's that Adam_S character?  Cause if so, he hasn't said a useful thing yet.

   E...


The one and only. Not only that, but he ticks me off. The way he posts like he knows everything and just bashes people for no reason. I guess that's 12 year olds for ya...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on July 30, 2006, 02:55 AM
Here's  (http://http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=saga2006&Number=2013759&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=2012715&Search=true&where=&Name=12775&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post2013759) a RS thread where Adam_S admits he's 12, after posting that he thought a bunsen burner was a bong.  ;D

I saw Dustin twice at Comic-Con.  The first time was at the Fan Film Awards where he introduced a category winner.  I thought there might be some booing, but from my seat up front I didn't hear any.  The second time was at the Fan Breakfast.  At my table, no one even knew of the controversy, so I educated them and told them to get to JediDefender.com if they wanted to know what was really going on ;).  One person at the table worked for Official Pix and when she mentioned Philip owned that, everyone but me said that was news to them.  No one at the breakfast booed Dustin or asked about the contest (except one guy who wanted his bounty T-shirt).

One funny from the Fan Breakfast, after Dustin was introduced he was asked to draw a raffle ticket for an Obi cookie jar, and he drew his own number.  A few people chanted "fixed", and I think it was Sansweet who later said about it "great, more controversy". ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 30, 2006, 05:02 PM
You had an extra Http:// in there, I fixed it for you  here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=saga2006&Number=2013759&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=2012715&Search=true&where=&Name=12775&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post2013759)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on July 30, 2006, 06:34 PM
I thought you had to be 13 to get on the RS.com site? 

Anyway, anyone else notice that all of a sudden Dustin is now a VIP instead of an administrator in the forums?  I thought that was interesting.  Just noticed it today but I think he was still showing as an Admin yesterday.

They wouldn't be trying to downplay the association between Dustin and RS.com would they?  His signature now says: "Official Star Wars Fan Club President"

Also says Content manager for Rebelscum.com but no mention of TFN or R2D2Central.com anymore.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on July 30, 2006, 09:25 PM
I thought you had to be 13 to get on the RS.com site? 

No, it's an all-age site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on July 30, 2006, 09:34 PM
You had an extra Http:// in there, I fixed it for you  here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=saga2006&Number=2013759&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=2012715&Search=true&where=&Name=12775&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post2013759)

Thanks Smartypants.  The Add URL feature on this site isn't as easy to use as the one on RS ;)

efranks, I searched the RS rules and FAQ but didn't see any age requirement.  One rule against posting explicit images cites "younger" members as the reason.

I logged out of my RS account and clicked the register link (as a new member would).  It asked for my birthdate, so I entered an age 8 birthdate.  It accepted it and moved on to the create login screen.  I didn't see it through to create an actual ID.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 1, 2006, 11:17 AM
I'm going through the ridiculous trading offer process over there. I've gotten about 20 PM's asking if I'd be willing to trade a loose Tie Fighter pilot for a carded Covert Ops trooper. Two or three people have had the audacity to PM back saying I was being unreasonable. ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on August 1, 2006, 01:19 PM
I'm going through the ridiculous trading offer process over there. I've gotten about 20 PM's asking if I'd be willing to trade a loose Tie Fighter pilot for a carded Covert Ops trooper. Two or three people have had the audacity to PM back saying I was being unreasonable. ???

I have an open Bic pen cap that is missing the pen for trade. Would you consider a loose, incomplete pen cap for your carded Cover Ops Trooper?

Don't make me call you unreasonable.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 1, 2006, 02:55 PM
I'll give you two covert ops troopers for it. ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rebel_Commander on August 1, 2006, 03:16 PM
Scum is the most juvenile SW site I have ever come across.People who have been registerd under 30 days with 800+plus posts?That is ridiculous.Yet dip**** Dustin bans JD people for nothing...you figure it out it makes zero sense.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on August 1, 2006, 04:25 PM
Speaking of Dustin ... it looks like he's acquired a new rank badge over at RS.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 1, 2006, 04:29 PM
...you figure it out it makes zero sense.

..and it requires zero sense to figure it out
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 1, 2006, 04:32 PM
Is it like the one mentioned by efranks at the top of this page?!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 1, 2006, 04:34 PM
I have a soiled pair of underwear I'll trade for your covert Ops Clone there Anton, obviously a better deal than Deanpaul's all-too-common pen cap.  I saw those clearanced when they were released...  My soiled underwear are an exclusive.

And that is exactly why I don't peruse the trades/classifieds there as much as I used to.  People want something for nothing and they're incredibly pompous about not getting what they want.   And don't get me started on the number of con-artists and people clearly being allowed to scalp.  It's to the point it's risky to trade there...  That's a crying shame to be honest.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 1, 2006, 05:08 PM
What an honor for Sideshow!

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Comic_Con_Licensee_Of_The_Year_99594.asp

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on August 1, 2006, 05:13 PM
As Randal from Clerks would say:

slurp....slurp....slurp....slurp....slurp....
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on August 1, 2006, 05:36 PM
What an honor for Sideshow!

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Comic_Con_Licensee_Of_The_Year_99594.asp



(http://www.toytraderz.com/john/veers.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on August 1, 2006, 05:38 PM
What's Quentin Tarintino doing in that last picture?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 1, 2006, 05:41 PM
Somewhat off topic... why hasn't Chris Berry awarded me a really cool plaque for my awesomeness?

The Lady's expression is like, "What the **** is this, and why did I agree to pose with it?" (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc06/sdcc06-LOTY/IMG_0292e.JPG)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on August 1, 2006, 06:28 PM
We need a Photoshop of her holding Greggers' sculpture, stat.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on August 1, 2006, 08:03 PM
Is it like the one mentioned by efranks at the top of this page?!

Well ... aren't I the *******.  I completely missed that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on August 2, 2006, 10:27 AM
At ComicCon last saturday, I watched a contest between two staff workers at RS build as many bust ups as possible. Not sure who they were.

As they were building, the ref keep going on and on about how great RS is. He keep saying how everybody should come over and see these two guys build. These guys are great at building bust ups all because they work for RS. There was another jerk filming the entire thing.

I don't know if the video is on RS or not but if you listen carefully in the background you should hear me chant "Scum sucks!" over and over again.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 03:13 PM
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I don't know if the video is on RS or not but if you listen carefully in the background you should hear me chant "Scum sucks!" over and over again.

Wow. That's almost as cool as if you had waved and said "Hi mom".  I guess you're famous now.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on August 2, 2006, 03:27 PM
I'm more than famous. I'm In-famous. 8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 2, 2006, 03:52 PM
These people are great at building bust ups because they work for RS?! How's that? They're just people like you and me right? Because they work there they're good at something ::)? How pathetic....way to get your 2 cents in Paul....what a bunch of idiots. Can't say I would have remained..... I probably would have stated that RS was a Big Joke and left.

EDIT: Were they having Phun?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 04:36 PM
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These people are great at building bust ups because they work for RS?! How's that?

It sounds like the ref was saying that.  I assume he was just being friendly.  I'm sure if he was one of these "really cool" spiteful board-loyalists, he surely would have said "Oh Noze! you're from RS? You must SuX0r at this because RS is dumb. WOoot!".  Alas, he was only a regular Star Wars fan and had no idea it's considered trendy by some to hate Rebelscum.

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How pathetic....way to get your 2 cents in Paul....what a bunch of idiots.

Yeah, the guys at the convention participating in a bust-up contest and their referee were the idiots, not the genius standing around chanting insults. He was brilliant.

I can't imagine how stupid you guys would think it was if someone filmed two JD staffers participating in a contest and Mattkatdamn, Lady Jaye or one of the other handful of people who doesn't like JD was in the background doing the same thing.

I'd give you kudos.......if I was 10 years old and was acutally amused by something so stupid.


Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 2, 2006, 05:38 PM

 I'm sure if he was one of these "really cool" spiteful board-loyalists, he surely would have said "Oh Noze! you're from RS? You must SuX0r at this because RS is dumb. WOoot!". 


 I feel like I'm being attacked by one of those spiteful board loyalists now..not sure about the really cool part though ;)


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Alas, he was only a regular Star Wars fan and had no idea it's considered trendy by some to hate Rebelscum.

trendy..by some??! I thought a trend was by many..... by some was an indifference? Regardless...I'm affected by no trend.. R SCUM is like the latter part of the name implies, not FUN as Phil would have you brainwashed to believe, Great members allowed to troll and remain, indifferent mods that can't quality moderate then get elected as Fan club Presidents..no ASSumptions here, it presents itself. I don't need a trend; I am not blind to their suckiness ways and hoki religions.  ::)


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Yeah, the guys at the convention participating in a bust-up contest and their referee were the idiots, not the genius standing around chanting insults. He was brilliant.

I agree ...he was brilliant ;D

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I can't imagine how stupid you guys would think it was if someone filmed two JD staffers participating in a contest and Mattkatdamn, Lady Jaye or one of the other handful of people who doesn't like JD was in the background doing the same thing.

LOL- I can't imagine either since this thread is about rebelscum I cannot comment at this time. No, I will say that I feel it says alot that  only " a handful of people" don't like JD. :)

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I'd give you kudos.......if I was 10 years old and was acutally amused by something so stupid.


I wonder then.. how many non- collector folks in the world think the same thing about a SW toy collector? RS and JD are toy collecting sites are they not? The SDCC is definately a place where ALOT of toy collectors gather correct? I think in such a place with such an audience there could be alot of folks amused (hint: they're older than 10 and they're likely not claiming to be above being amused like a ten year old either)  :) ;)



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Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 06:03 PM
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I feel like I'm being attacked by one of those spiteful board loyalists now..not sure about the really cool part though

I'm hardly a "loyalist" to any Star Wars board, I think that's kind of silly.  As I've said 100 times before, there's good points and bad points about each one.  I think when you start trying to choose one and decide that another one really sucks, you're being petty....especially when they're all very similar.

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trendy..by some??! I thought a trend was by many..... by some was an indifference?

It is a trend by a good sized handful of people here, yes.  I'd like to think that most of them are more mature than to stand in the background of someone's video shoot and chant insults.  I liked how Matt walked right up to Phil at C3 a few years ago and snapped a picture.  I would have thought it was cool if all the people disappointed about the election had talked to Dustin about it.   All the mudslinging that goes on outside of direct conversation just seems petty to me, but it IS the internet I guess.

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I agree ...he was brilliant

I guess I needed a smiley face to indicate that was sarcasm.



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. No, I will say that I feel it says alot that  only " a handful of people" don't like JD.

Really?  I think the whole "Site war" thing is only being kept alive by a couple of people over there (ones that get frequently picked on here) and the rest of it is all banned members who now reside here being upset.  I understand their anger, I just don't get why it's spreading.

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I think in such a place with such an audience there could be alot of folks amused (hint: they're older than 10 and they're likely not claiming to be above being amused like a ten year old either)

I'd like to hope the majority of members here are better than that petty crap, and I think they probably are.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 2, 2006, 06:13 PM
Josh,  I feel you are missing alot of my points because you adress them by saying something else..but that's OK. I know you were being sarcastic ..but without a  :P ::) or ;) there I wanted to agree with your literal words.

Yeah, I laughed like a 10 year-old at it!!!LOL Yes, I gave it the time of day... amusement parks, cartoons on TV, Disney stuff, SW toys with play factors, ect is it geared toward me or a 10 year old? Who cares..I laugh still. I don't like to think of my self as a cold fish about things like that. When I'm done laughing then I AM truly old and must die soon since there is nothing in the world left to make me smile 8)

 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on August 2, 2006, 06:15 PM
I'm hardly a "loyalist" to any Star Wars board


HA!

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on August 2, 2006, 06:26 PM
Really?  I think the whole "Site war" thing is only being kept alive by a couple of people over there (ones that get frequently picked on here) and the rest of it is all banned members who now reside here being upset.  I understand their anger, I just don't get why it's spreading.
???
Don't you remember all the Phun everybody's been having over there?
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Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 06:35 PM
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HA!

Kevin

There's a difference between enjoying something a bunch of people you hang out with hate and being a loyalist.  You're not going to find me defending things about RS that I think are stupid. 

If Rebelscum was not a good experience for ME...I'd stop going there for one and I'd also probably share the hatred some people here have for it.   I've never gone over there and gotten myself banned for one reason or another, so I'm still enjoying it.

Some of you guys remind me of these console fanboys.

"OMG---Gamecube is the Best.  I can't believe you like your P$2 or your M$ Xbox. Those are so lame. "

Just because I own all three does not mean I'm "wrong".  Same goes for the Star Wars sites I frequent.  You don't have to choose just one.

You people that feel the need to choose one and hate the others I just don't get.  Yes, those of you who have been banned for a bogus reason, I feel for...but that's only a few of you.  The rest of the bandwagon jumpers who hate the place seemingly because they think it's a cool thing to do are just being sheep, and that's really lame.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on August 2, 2006, 06:39 PM
The rest of the bandwagon jumpers who hate the place seemingly because they think it's a cool thing to do are just being sheep, and that's really lame.

I resent that!  I'm not a sheep, I'm a Llama!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 06:50 PM
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I resent that!  I'm not a sheep, I'm a Llama!

Llamas are kinda cool.
Alpacas, those are better though.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: jadesfire on August 2, 2006, 07:11 PM
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I can't imagine how stupid you guys would think it was if someone filmed two JD staffers participating in a contest and Mattkatdamn, Lady Jaye or one of the other handful of people who doesn't like JD was in the background doing the same thing.


Lady Jaye doesn't like JD?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 07:23 PM
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Lady Jaye doesn't like JD?

I've never seen her post positively about it. Whenever I say something she doesn't like it's always "Go back to JD" or something.  Then again, maybe that's just her.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on August 2, 2006, 07:31 PM
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Lady Jaye doesn't like JD?

I've never seen her post positively about it. Whenever I say something she doesn't like it's always "Go back to JD" or something. Then again, maybe that's just her.

You mean "Go back to JD!!"

Right??
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on August 2, 2006, 07:49 PM
Right!!


Kevin(n)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 08:54 PM
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You mean "Go back to JD!!"

Right??

You got me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 ;D >:( :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 2, 2006, 09:48 PM

There's a difference between enjoying something a bunch of people you hang out with hate and being a loyalist.  You're not going to find me defending things about RS that I think are stupid. 


Josh,

Did you read the stuff you wrote in the FC President thread?  Oh wait, the quote above says you won't defend something a site YOU think is stupid...but you will if just about everyone here does.   ::)

Pretty fine line you're walking there my friend.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on August 2, 2006, 10:18 PM
Here's your chance to stuff the RS ballot box for Willrow Hood.  They just launched a front page Probe Droid poll asking which April Fool's Day gag figure would you like to see made.  Myself, I voted for crispy Owen/Beru, but I have two more votes using my other PCs.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on August 2, 2006, 11:24 PM
Here's your chance to stuff the RS ballot box for Willrow Hood.  They just launched a front page Probe Droid poll asking which April Fool's Day gag figure would you like to see made.  Myself, I voted for crispy Owen/Beru, but I have two more votes using my other PCs.

Call me excessively cynical, but Willrow Hood is Scott/OCB's pet project.  Scott doesn't like Scum and was banned by Scum.  Scott used to work for JD and does some work for them still in an unofficial and occasional fashion.  JD and Scum don't get along.  JD is the home to the fanatical oddballs that like Willrow and support him.

Whaddya think the odds of Willrow winning there are?  Really?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 11:40 PM
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Josh,

Did you read the stuff you wrote in the FC President thread?  Oh wait, the quote above says you won't defend something a site YOU think is stupid...but you will if just about everyone here does

I never said I didn't think the fan club results weren't fishy. Dustin was being beaten by over 100 votes last time I checked and he won.

I still want to know what happened just as much as any of you guys do.  And yes, I thought all the spam during the campaign was annoying.

Where's that interview or inside info you guys were hinting at?  I want to read it and see the truth everyone else seems to hint that they know.



Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 2, 2006, 11:43 PM
How I've missed you, Josh.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 3, 2006, 02:45 AM
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How I've missed you, Josh.

Yeah, I know. I neglected to take the blue pill and learn to hate that place like everyone else, so that makes me the a-hole.

Sorry, I'll shut up now.







Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 3, 2006, 02:54 AM
Was mulling around RS today and found an old, but great Dustin closure. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB12&Number=1103723&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1103710&Search=true&where=&Name=2150&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1103723)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on August 3, 2006, 02:55 AM
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How I've missed you, Josh.

Yeah, I know. I neglected to take the blue pill and learn to hate that place like everyone else, so that makes me the a-hole.

Sorry, I'll shut up now.


I thought the blue pill made you a bigger dick, not a bigger *******?  But I'm not a pharmacist.

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Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 3, 2006, 02:56 AM
One could lead to the other, I'd assume. :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on August 3, 2006, 05:30 AM
I still want to know what happened just as much as any of you guys do...

Where's that interview or inside info you guys were hinting at?...

I'm having lunch with Tommy (uscwannabe) tomorrow.  Does that count?  :P

Just a casual (and presumably private) lunch though, and not an interview - unless Tommy would like it to become one...  I think it's safe to share this much though: The Fan Club asked him for his address a few days ago so they could send him his free shirt for getting at least three subscriptions.  ::)

As for Bertha, sometimes she loves JD (when she's getting shunned/scolded at RS), and sometimes she hates JD.  It's kind of a weird relationship really.  You could dig up plenty of quotes around the boards here when she's pissed at RS and is bashing the **** out of them, and playing fair-weathered forum member here.

As for building Bust-ups, I'll just say that Mark Hurray is a very cool, friendly, and down-to-earth guy, so I've got nothing bad to say about him.  Myatt however...  :-X
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on August 3, 2006, 08:41 AM
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How I've missed you, Josh.

Yeah, I know. I neglected to take the blue pill and learn to hate that place like everyone else, so that makes me the a-hole.

Sorry, I'll shut up now.

If you stand back and read your comments here, you would have to admit you are sort of trolling for a reaction here.  You know there are a big contigent of fans who loath RS here so coming in here whipping the bee's nest is just not a cool thing to do.  You have made your feelings felt, so why keep coming in and whipping people into a lather and then disappearing back to RS only to return and repeat?

You don't hate RS as much as many others do.  We get it. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 3, 2006, 08:53 AM
Myatt however... :-X

I wondered - his comments on the 12" boards are a little condescending.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 3, 2006, 12:04 PM
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I'm having lunch with Tommy (uscwannabe) tomorrow.  Does that count? 

Just a casual (and presumably private) lunch though, and not an interview - unless Tommy would like it to become one...  I think it's safe to share this much though: The Fan Club asked him for his address a few days ago so they could send him his free shirt for getting at least three subscriptions

That is extremely interesting, yes.   You should bring a little tape recorder and at some point, ask him if he'll give an interview to put this whole thing to rest once and for all. 

I can't wait to hear what he says.


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If you stand back and read your comments here, you would have to admit you are sort of trolling for a reaction here.  You know there are a big contigent of fans who loath RS here so coming in here whipping the bee's nest is just not a cool thing to do.  You have made your feelings felt, so why keep coming in and whipping people into a lather and then disappearing back to RS only to return and repeat?

I don't know, that's a pretty good question. 

I don't mean for anything I say to be trolling.  I mean, my posts are on topic and honest...sometimes they're just a counterpoint that's not that popular.  I'd like to think of myself more as a peacemaker than a troll, but the problem is, my statements of "they aren't that bad" or "isn't this hatred a little silly?" are usually met with responses of "they are the spawn of the Satan and you're an idiot if you don't agree with me."

 Being the one guy in the middle of an angry mob throwing stones saying "Hey, why are we throwing stones again?" is probably kind of stupid.

It's a losing battle and like I said last night, I'm going to knock it off.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on August 3, 2006, 12:23 PM

I don't mean for anything I say to be trolling. 

I know you aren't trying to stir things up, but that is what your posts are actually doing.  I respect your position and know you're just speaking your mind, but the crowd just doesn't want to hear it.  You've said your peace, and were it me, I would move on.  You don't want to get lumped in with the "RSers" that everyone hates.  It just ain't worth it, you know?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 4, 2006, 02:29 AM
I think what the counterpoint crowd, to your POV Josh, possibly have that you don't, is the perspective of being treated like trash by staff/administrators at Rebelscum...  Some indirectly perhaps, others more directly...  Some for no reason, others for reasons brought on by something more visual and rowdy on the boards there... 

I think while your counterpoints are cool for your perspective of things...  If you're a guy who's banned simply because you asked for some honest answers to legitimate questions, or if you got banned because you were affiliated with the wrong place (and never got so much as a note about it from the people responsible, but instead got the "cleanup" email from someone else on staff who had nothing to do with it) , then your opinion of the site and who runs it is bound to be a bit lower...

For a loose analogy it's kind of like people who speak out for or against something specific because they have direct experience with said topic, while others maybe don't give it a second thought...  Or perhaps feel those speaking out about said topic are "overzealous" in their beliefs and make too much out of perhaps "nothing".

Maybe a good analogy that's specific could be those "Truth.com" things on the TV that speak out against tobacco companies and stuff.  I haven't ever had anyone in MY family die of lung cancer from smoking...  I don't have many smokers in my family I can think of off-hand even, if any, so smoking's just not something on my radar... 

So I'm one of those guys that says I've seen enough of those Truth.com commercials, I'm sick of hearing people whine about cigarettes and that Tobacco companies need to be more responsible because at this point if you don't know smoking kills you then you're braindead already...

I'm really not looking at it from the POV from a guy who is widowed because his wife died of lungcancer last year, or someone who lost a parent or sibling from smoking and how they were "drawn" to that habit and whatnot by marketing and pushing from Tobacco companies, etc...  I'm simply looking at it from my mostly smoke-free life where I've had nothing "happen" to me.

Now that's just an analogy of course...  But a pretty accurate one I believe.  It's all about your perspective.

I don't think anyone "minds" you liking RS, Josh...  So that's not even at issue, and if it is that's their problem not yours.  I think what it comes down to though is that people now are quite positive how you feel and that's fine...  So when they make their crack about RS or what they did they don't want you to let them know that you think they're "childish" and that RS is still AOK by you...  They know that. :)  So any humor they found in something, they're also sure you won't see it through the same glasses.

I think that sums it up....  I think.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Ook on August 4, 2006, 03:36 AM
Myatt however... :-X

I wondered - his comments on the 12" boards are a little condescending.



He banned me, but I never held it against him; I totally had it coming.


So, he's a dick after all, huh? LOL
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 4, 2006, 04:32 PM
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So any humor they found in something, they're also sure you won't see it through the same glasses.

I think that sums it up....  I think.

Yeah, you summed it up pretty well.  Like I said a few nights ago, I've got the point. I'm done defending RS in here. I get that my opinion is both in the minority and not really welcome. While I'm not going to jump on the hate bandwagon, I will refrain from trying to talk anyone into jumping off of it, since it's such an unpopular cause.

I do have one big issue with what you said.  You're assuming I'm being objective in my assessment of what's funny.  Your exact terms were "I'm looking at it through different glasses".  That's not the case.

I don't think chanting in the background of someone's video is stupid because I like Rebelscum.  I think chanting in the background of someone's video is stupid because that's what hicks do whenever there's a news camera around.  I don't think this little "prank" was any funnier than some dude getting behind the newscaster and saying "Woo, hi mom! Channel 5 sucks!" while she's trying to report the news.   With very few exceptions, that old gag just makes me feel sorry for the newscaster, and pity the idiot that thought it was cool to do that.

I also think that the kiddies who have gone over there in the past and created a post-padding ****storm with some fake accounts only to show up here an hour later and brag about it are stupid too.  It hasn't happened in awhile (thank God) but that was never funny to me when they went over there and destroyed Wuher's for a night, then came back here expecting a pat on the head for it.   The staff here handled it properly I thought.

Yes, I know humor is subjective, and maybe there's just a certain kind of humor I am just not amused by.  It doesn't matter where they originate from to me. When MattKatkadamn is over there telling Rob he's "not a man" and trying to bait him into getting banned or whatever, I just shake my head that he's sinking to that level.   I prefer my insults a little more cleverly crafted than just "you suck" or whatever.

Now, when I see one of Rob's awesome photoshop jobs, I laugh.
The entire "Jeff for fan club president" thing was hilarious.  That was so well thought out and put together that some people took it seriously for awhile. Great stuff.  I also thought it was cool that RS allowed people to pimp Jeff in Wuher's. That was classic.

Matt taking a picture at C3 with Phil was another incident I thought was really funny, simply because I don't think Mr. Wise had any idea who he was, even after Matt introduced himself to him.  It was was kind of funny to me that (at the time) Matt was a huge pain in his ass online but he still didn't register in real life.  Just proof that people can be really different people online.

And yes...I loved the Greg(g) and Bertha unveilings perpetrated by some of the fine detectives on this website.  Those were some of the classic moments in all of RS or JD history to me and it's still funny today that years later, they still both deny it.

My comments about the chanting in the video were just in general disbelief that someone actually thought that was funny.  I can understand why a lot of people here don't like RS, I even agree that those of you who were banned for bull**** reasons have more than enough reason to HATE the place.

All I'm saying is....there's a way to express that and then there's also a stupid way to display it.    Asking "election" questions of Dustin at Comic Con would have been an awesome way to get across what everyone was feeling in a funny way.  I thought that might have happened.   Chanting in the background of Mark's video is just kind of a childish way of "sticking to RS" without really accomplishing that.

This is all just my opinion and really doesn't have a lot to do with which website I like, it's just about what I personally find funny.  Fair enough?

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rebel_Commander on August 4, 2006, 05:10 PM
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So any humor they found in something, they're also sure you won't see it through the same glasses.

I think that sums it up....  I think.

Yeah, you summed it up pretty well.  Like I said a few nights ago, I've got the point. I'm done defending RS in here. I get that my opinion is both in the minority and not really welcome. While I'm not going to jump on the hate bandwagon, I will refrain from trying to talk anyone into jumping off of it, since it's such an unpopular cause.

I do have one big issue with what you said.  You're assuming I'm being objective in my assessment of what's funny.  Your exact terms were "I'm looking at it through different glasses".  That's not the case.

I don't think chanting in the background of someone's video is stupid because I like Rebelscum.  I think chanting in the background of someone's video is stupid because that's what hicks do whenever there's a news camera around.  I don't think this little "prank" was any funnier than some dude getting behind the newscaster and saying "Woo, hi mom! Channel 5 sucks!" while she's trying to report the news.   With very few exceptions, that old gag just makes me feel sorry for the newscaster, and pity the idiot that thought it was cool to do that.

I also think that the kiddies who have gone over there in the past and created a post-padding ****storm with some fake accounts only to show up here an hour later and brag about it are stupid too.  It hasn't happened in awhile (thank God) but that was never funny to me when they went over there and destroyed Wuher's for a night, then came back here expecting a pat on the head for it.   The staff here handled it properly I thought.

Yes, I know humor is subjective, and maybe there's just a certain kind of humor I am just not amused by.  It doesn't matter where they originate from to me. When MattKatkadamn is over there telling Rob he's "not a man" and trying to bait him into getting banned or whatever, I just shake my head that he's sinking to that level.   I prefer my insults a little more cleverly crafted than just "you suck" or whatever.

Now, when I see one of Rob's awesome photoshop jobs, I laugh.
The entire "Jeff for fan club president" thing was hilarious.  That was so well thought out and put together that some people took it seriously for awhile. Great stuff.  I also thought it was cool that RS allowed people to pimp Jeff in Wuher's. That was classic.

Matt taking a picture at C3 with Phil was another incident I thought was really funny, simply because I don't think Mr. Wise had any idea who he was, even after Matt introduced himself to him.  It was was kind of funny to me that (at the time) Matt was a huge pain in his ass online but he still didn't register in real life.  Just proof that people can be really different people online.

And yes...I loved the Greg(g) and Bertha unveilings perpetrated by some of the fine detectives on this website.  Those were some of the classic moments in all of RS or JD history to me and it's still funny today that years later, they still both deny it.

My comments about the chanting in the video were just in general disbelief that someone actually thought that was funny.  I can understand why a lot of people here don't like RS, I even agree that those of you who were banned for ******** reasons have more than enough reason to HATE the place.

All I'm saying is....there's a way to express that and then there's also a stupid way to display it.    Asking "election" questions of Dustin at Comic Con would have been an awesome way to get across what everyone was feeling in a funny way.  I thought that might have happened.   Chanting in the background of Mark's video is just kind of a childish way of "sticking to RS" without really accomplishing that.

This is all just my opinion and really doesn't have a lot to do with which website I like, it's just about what I personally find funny.  Fair enough?



Everyone can tell your  an RS cheerlreader, which is fine.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 4, 2006, 05:26 PM
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So any humor they found in something, they're also sure you won't see it through the same glasses.

I think that sums it up....  I think.

Yeah, you summed it up pretty well.  Like I said a few nights ago, I've got the point. I'm done defending RS in here. I get that my opinion is both in the minority and not really welcome. While I'm not going to jump on the hate bandwagon, I will refrain from trying to talk anyone into jumping off of it, since it's such an unpopular cause.

I do have one big issue with what you said.  You're assuming I'm being objective in my assessment of what's funny.  Your exact terms were "I'm looking at it through different glasses".  That's not the case.

I don't think chanting in the background of someone's video is stupid because I like Rebelscum.  I think chanting in the background of someone's video is stupid because that's what hicks do whenever there's a news camera around.  I don't think this little "prank" was any funnier than some dude getting behind the newscaster and saying "Woo, hi mom! Channel 5 sucks!" while she's trying to report the news.   With very few exceptions, that old gag just makes me feel sorry for the newscaster, and pity the idiot that thought it was cool to do that.

I also think that the kiddies who have gone over there in the past and created a post-padding ****storm with some fake accounts only to show up here an hour later and brag about it are stupid too.  It hasn't happened in awhile (thank God) but that was never funny to me when they went over there and destroyed Wuher's for a night, then came back here expecting a pat on the head for it.   The staff here handled it properly I thought.

Yes, I know humor is subjective, and maybe there's just a certain kind of humor I am just not amused by.  It doesn't matter where they originate from to me. When MattKatkadamn is over there telling Rob he's "not a man" and trying to bait him into getting banned or whatever, I just shake my head that he's sinking to that level.   I prefer my insults a little more cleverly crafted than just "you suck" or whatever.

Now, when I see one of Rob's awesome photoshop jobs, I laugh.
The entire "Jeff for fan club president" thing was hilarious.  That was so well thought out and put together that some people took it seriously for awhile. Great stuff.  I also thought it was cool that RS allowed people to pimp Jeff in Wuher's. That was classic.

Matt taking a picture at C3 with Phil was another incident I thought was really funny, simply because I don't think Mr. Wise had any idea who he was, even after Matt introduced himself to him.  It was was kind of funny to me that (at the time) Matt was a huge pain in his ass online but he still didn't register in real life.  Just proof that people can be really different people online.

And yes...I loved the Greg(g) and Bertha unveilings perpetrated by some of the fine detectives on this website.  Those were some of the classic moments in all of RS or JD history to me and it's still funny today that years later, they still both deny it.

My comments about the chanting in the video were just in general disbelief that someone actually thought that was funny.  I can understand why a lot of people here don't like RS, I even agree that those of you who were banned for ******** reasons have more than enough reason to HATE the place.

All I'm saying is....there's a way to express that and then there's also a stupid way to display it.    Asking "election" questions of Dustin at Comic Con would have been an awesome way to get across what everyone was feeling in a funny way.  I thought that might have happened.   Chanting in the background of Mark's video is just kind of a childish way of "sticking to RS" without really accomplishing that.

This is all just my opinion and really doesn't have a lot to do with which website I like, it's just about what I personally find funny.  Fair enough?



Everyone can tell your  an RS cheerlreader, which is fine.

Fine, indeed.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on August 4, 2006, 05:28 PM
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So any humor they found in something, they're also sure you won't see it through the same glasses.

I think that sums it up....  I think.

Yeah, you summed it up pretty well.  Like I said a few nights ago, I've got the point. I'm done defending RS in here. I get that my opinion is both in the minority and not really welcome. While I'm not going to jump on the hate bandwagon, I will refrain from trying to talk anyone into jumping off of it, since it's such an unpopular cause.

I do have one big issue with what you said.  You're assuming I'm being objective in my assessment of what's funny.  Your exact terms were "I'm looking at it through different glasses".  That's not the case.

I don't think chanting in the background of someone's video is stupid because I like Rebelscum.  I think chanting in the background of someone's video is stupid because that's what hicks do whenever there's a news camera around.  I don't think this little "prank" was any funnier than some dude getting behind the newscaster and saying "Woo, hi mom! Channel 5 sucks!" while she's trying to report the news.   With very few exceptions, that old gag just makes me feel sorry for the newscaster, and pity the idiot that thought it was cool to do that.

I also think that the kiddies who have gone over there in the past and created a post-padding ****storm with some fake accounts only to show up here an hour later and brag about it are stupid too.  It hasn't happened in awhile (thank God) but that was never funny to me when they went over there and destroyed Wuher's for a night, then came back here expecting a pat on the head for it.   The staff here handled it properly I thought.

Yes, I know humor is subjective, and maybe there's just a certain kind of humor I am just not amused by.  It doesn't matter where they originate from to me. When MattKatkadamn is over there telling Rob he's "not a man" and trying to bait him into getting banned or whatever, I just shake my head that he's sinking to that level.   I prefer my insults a little more cleverly crafted than just "you suck" or whatever.

Now, when I see one of Rob's awesome photoshop jobs, I laugh.
The entire "Jeff for fan club president" thing was hilarious.  That was so well thought out and put together that some people took it seriously for awhile. Great stuff.  I also thought it was cool that RS allowed people to pimp Jeff in Wuher's. That was classic.

Matt taking a picture at C3 with Phil was another incident I thought was really funny, simply because I don't think Mr. Wise had any idea who he was, even after Matt introduced himself to him.  It was was kind of funny to me that (at the time) Matt was a huge pain in his ass online but he still didn't register in real life.  Just proof that people can be really different people online.

And yes...I loved the Greg(g) and Bertha unveilings perpetrated by some of the fine detectives on this website.  Those were some of the classic moments in all of RS or JD history to me and it's still funny today that years later, they still both deny it.

My comments about the chanting in the video were just in general disbelief that someone actually thought that was funny.  I can understand why a lot of people here don't like RS, I even agree that those of you who were banned for ******** reasons have more than enough reason to HATE the place.

All I'm saying is....there's a way to express that and then there's also a stupid way to display it.    Asking "election" questions of Dustin at Comic Con would have been an awesome way to get across what everyone was feeling in a funny way.  I thought that might have happened.   Chanting in the background of Mark's video is just kind of a childish way of "sticking to RS" without really accomplishing that.

This is all just my opinion and really doesn't have a lot to do with which website I like, it's just about what I personally find funny.  Fair enough?



Everyone can tell your  an RS cheerlreader, which is fine.

Fine, indeed.

I concur.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 4, 2006, 05:43 PM
People would quote one of Big Red's dramatic novels of a post just to say, "Sorry to hear about that!"

Annoying.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 4, 2006, 06:10 PM
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Everyone can tell your  an RS cheerlreader, which is fine.

If that's really all you got out of that entire post trying to explain how I felt about the actual humor of the situation in question, I apologize...but you completely missed the point.

Here it is for the A.D.D generation:

Yes, I like Rebelscum, but that has nothing to do with why I think the "chant" thing was stupid.

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People would quote one of Big Red's dramatic novels of a post just to say, "Sorry to hear about that!"

Annoying.

Agreed. I don't really understand the point of quoting the entire post if you're not even commenting on the content, but I guess one lonely sentence saying "I didn't read this" would be a little too honest.  ;D

(Waiting for the 1st one now)...


Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: name on August 4, 2006, 06:12 PM
People would quote one of Big Red's dramatic novels of a post just to say, "Sorry to hear about that!"

Annoying.


Does BR post over here?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 4, 2006, 06:34 PM
Nah, I think he's exclusive to GH.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: name on August 4, 2006, 07:05 PM
I still want to know what happened just as much as any of you guys do...

Where's that interview or inside info you guys were hinting at?...

I'm having lunch with Tommy (uscwannabe) tomorrow.  Does that count?  :P

It's tomorrow......and lunch is over.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 4, 2006, 07:19 PM
Josh,

I hope that you do still post in here.  I honestly would like the debate on the shittiness of RS with you, otherwise this thread just a bunch of people who are saying the same thing in slightly different ways.

It does seem kind of odd to me that sometimes it seems like you just don't believe a lot of us about how Rebelscum has changed over the years and little of it has been for the better.  I know you said in a previous post that you do think the bull**** bannings are...well, bull****.  It seems like you hear what we say but do not listen to what we are saying and you put on some rose colored glasses when you open up Rebelscum in your browser.  You've said before that you won't speak bad about rebelscum because they haven't done anything bad to you. That's your right but I've always held the belief that if one person tells me something it's an opinion, if 50 people tell me the same thing, there might be something to it.

As far as the whole chanting in the background of a video thing you are taking issue with, I do agree with you that it is a bit low rent.  However, when you have a forum, like Rebelscum, where the "moderators" and "administration" not only stifle, but outright delete and censor all debate on a subject like their content, perhaps taking the low road may be the only option.  Hell, I would've loved to have been at Comicon and there actually was a Q&A about the whole fan club presidency debacle...somehow I have a feeling there was no Q&A for a reason.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2006, 12:29 AM
I still want to know what happened just as much as any of you guys do...

Where's that interview or inside info you guys were hinting at?...

I'm having lunch with Tommy (uscwannabe) tomorrow.  Does that count?  :P

It's tomorrow......and lunch is over.

Heheh--  read what he(Matt) had to  say in the SOCAL finds section...perhaps more to be revealed after 'litigation' :-\ >:(. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 5, 2006, 01:13 AM
I don't think Josh is gonna quit here just because people don't like something he says.  ;D  Not like this has exactly been an ugly discussion either by any stretch...  I've seen Josh in worse things than what we've talked about here and it didn't phase his posting habits.

And I completely concur with what you said about one's opinion of humor Josh, I do...  What I was actually saying Josh, was that your opinion of the situation can also somewhat influence your perception of what's funny or not...  That may not be the case of course, it was just a thought on the way you perceived the moment...

For me, like I said, a RS circle-jerk being taped and some guy in the background letting them know not EVERYTHING about RS is great...  I see some humor in that.  Is it creative?  Well that is debateable I guess, but if I saw a tape going on as was described...  Well I'd be hard to keep from standing there with my JediDefender.com staffer shirt on holding it up and dancing around like a numbnuts in the background.  :)  Without the shirt I'm sure vocalizing it is all I'd have and likely would've jumped at.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 5, 2006, 02:46 AM
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I don't think Josh is gonna quit here just because people don't like something he says.    Not like this has exactly been an ugly discussion either by any stretch...  I've seen Josh in worse things than what we've talked about here and it didn't phase his posting habits.

No, I was definitely not quitting coming around here...I just said that by popular demand, I'd try and shut up about the good things at RS from now on.  When a bitching topic comes up, I'll just shut up about it and let the flames continue on without a counterpoint.

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Well I'd be hard to keep from standing there with my JediDefender.com staffer shirt on holding it up and dancing around like a numbnuts in the background

Now, if there were an image of you simply standing behind the camera with a JD shirt, not jumping around, but perhaps smiling and the occasional thumbs up (or Price is Right gesture towards your logo)...that, I would have found more funny.
 ;D


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It's tomorrow......and lunch is over.

Yes....it is.  So the million dollar question is, what's the scoop?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 5, 2006, 10:21 AM
This (http://www.freewebby.com/sign-smilies/flamewar.gif) is getting a bit out of hand, what's up with attacking a fellow JDer even if he still likes RS, and defends it( I know its gone leagues worse before like Jesse said, but still).
If we do that, we are no better than the spamming trolls at the site that we have been arguing so much about, because guess what they do. Many a time people who like JD and defend it over there, are screwed over as well. I'm not trying to be preachy, I just find it quite odd, that you would flame your fellow man.
So let my(http://www.freewebby.com/action-smilies/whips.gif) for my blasphemous words commence.

Smarty

NOTE: I am not trying to promote peace between the sites, quite frankly RS can shove it, what I'm talking about is the people who are your fellow men, that get flamed.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 5, 2006, 10:51 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/cberry/images/insults/cluepon.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 5, 2006, 10:58 AM
If you Weren't staff I'd say STFU. oops guess I said it. ::) Plus it looks like your the one with your head up your ass. :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 5, 2006, 10:58 AM
Have a nice vacation.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 5, 2006, 11:05 AM
And the people rejoice.

One down, several more to go.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on August 5, 2006, 01:16 PM
Wow...I'm out of town for a week and look what happens...

I'm not trying to defend Smarty or anything, I just think it was completely ridiculous for someone to get suspeneded to voice his opinion.

Chris, you could've just left his post alone as someone who put his view on this immature flame war between RS and JD, but you decided to take the childish way of posting a stupid picture that told him he had his head up his butt. So, when he tries to defend himself, you suspend him? Talk about an abuse of power...

Jeez.

Thanks for the upcoming vacation, I'm sure Smarty is enjoying his too.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 5, 2006, 01:32 PM
Wow.

Did that Smartypants1635 guy really just get suspended for defending himself after that "Cluepon", or was that a joke?

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on August 5, 2006, 01:45 PM
Wow.

Did that Smartypants1635 guy really just get suspended for defending himself after that "Cluepon", or was that a joke?


Oh come on!  There is a difference between defending yourself and telling the site admin. to "STFU" and that they "have their head up their ass".  There is a right way and a wrong way to express your opinion.   Yeah, maybe the "Cluepon" thing wasn't the best way to handle it, but Smarty's response wasn't in self-defense, it was inflamatory and disrespectful and he knew what it would get him.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2006, 01:46 PM
I'm hoping it IS a joke. I agree with DN here..actually. Somebody voicing his opinion on a website where we pride ourselves on this. While I thought the 'cluepon' was funny(where did you get this)..I also view it as an attack on SM's mentality whether true or not. We've been pretty good here about moderating and allowing counterattacks on folks before moderation begins. I only see one difference here and that is one of power level involved. It came across as a 'bullish act' to me. Was he insubordinate to a superior officer? Certainly the acronymed cuss words aren't in question as we openly allow this here. It's a joke, right?

Signed Rebelscum Hater
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2006, 01:49 PM
The 'cluepon' tells SM it's a free pass to remove his head from his ass...so he reacts and tells the sender of the cluepon to remove his head.....ect.

how is this disproportionate, Tracy? Same words to both folks= eye for eye?

Oh right, because who's involved...so they have the right to play God because it's their website I guess. :-\

Do one to others...ever hear that saying? We're still all people here regardless of age, power position, whatever else right? Can someone be above someone else here. This isn't about kissing up here, if something's wrong respect the folks that have the guts to admit it, right?

EDIT: I know double posting sucks, sorry for that
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on August 5, 2006, 02:34 PM
No, it's not a joke.  >:(

Don't you notice that Smarty has the 'Suspended' Title over his name?

That's so immature.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2006, 02:35 PM
Hey it's certainly surprising...


An insult traded for an insult resulted in ...this??! :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 5, 2006, 02:36 PM
My guess, knowing Chris, is that there's more to it than that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: name on August 5, 2006, 02:38 PM
I had the impression that there was more to this than what we saw in this thread.....


ETA - i shouldn't ignore that "warning another post has been made while you were fiddle farting around on Yahoo" message......
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2006, 02:45 PM
What, Name?

Err ah I'm a little slow there.. I didn't understand the second comment you made...are saying there was another post in here that was deleted?

The DS
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 5, 2006, 02:47 PM
What, Name?

Err ah I'm a little slow there.. I didn't understand the second comment you made...are saying there was another post in here that was deleted?

The DS

No, he's saying that he basically made the same comment as I, about there likely being more to the suspension than what you guys see here - but I got my post out before he did his (due to being on Yahoo Messenger) - but he ignored the "Someone else has posted before you", thus didn't realize he was repeating what I said.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2006, 02:53 PM
Ok, got it. What are you suggesting then Brad..an angry PM?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 5, 2006, 03:10 PM
Not that I'm aware of. As annoying as **** as Smarty may be, and as irritable as I am and have been towards him and the younger (and clueless) crowd, he's never sent ME a hostile message, and I think I've worked harder for it than Chris did with the Cluepon.

As a matter of fact, I tend to only get hostile messages from the older, more informed crowd.

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 5, 2006, 03:28 PM
This (http://www.freewebby.com/sign-smilies/flamewar.gif) is getting a bit out of hand, what's up with attacking a fellow JDer even if he still likes RS, and defends it.
If we do that, we are no better than the spamming trolls at the site that we have been arguing so much about, because guess what they do. Many a time people who like JD and defend it over there, are screwed over as well. I'm not trying to be preachy, I just find it quite odd, that you would flame your fellow man.

Would just like to take a moment to analyze SP's comment (that somehow endeared him to get a 'cluepon').

SEVERAL,several times in this thread alone we've seen copies from RS's thread about folks getting banned,talked down to, ect for mentioning JD, arguing/taking an opposite viewpoint of administration ect, being told 'because I said so', ridiculed publicly(not by PM).

He Does have a point here and not clueless by far..if we start harassing folks for going to other sites are we any different from RS then? Was he proven right by being banned for returning an insult not unlike the goings-on at a commonly hated website
around here?

If we flame our folks (like that the other day when Josh asked 'what's wrong with me?' in an unrelated subject and Chris replied with RS's link) then folks will begin to leave our community ala RS and begin looking for another site. While I really don't believe this will happen...recent riftlike events between a rare RS liker/promoter/defender and JD admin could be a sign. Silly/Hasty bannings could be another. Well, I personally am disgusted by RS, their staff and everything they stand for ($? :-X self promotion down directed from their leader?)
. Can we just stop with the silliness to restore this site to the way I remember it?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 5, 2006, 04:04 PM

I thought Chris' "Answer" reply to Josh was funny, but I guess I have the advantage (rather, curse) of having worked with Chris long enough to know it wasn't just some mean spirited jab. I've known Josh long enough (longer than I've known Chris) to have assumed at the time that he set himself up for something like that on purpose. Bullshitting and carrying-on, man... I didn't view that as a flame, hopefully Josh didn't, either.

As a matter of fact, if I could do it without inadvertantly banning myself (AGAIN), I'd have changed Josh's status to "Rebelscum Cheerleader", and I've got a feeling Josh wouldn't have taken offense - while some people would misread it as just being mean and picking on the Rebelscum Apologist.

Where the split is, and where Cluepon's deserve to be passed out, is where alot of the people here who don't go as far back as the rest of us with this RS drama, don't really "get it" when we're doing running wild with inside jokes and references to bull**** years ago.

****, a month or so ago, one of the kids here said GNT was the only good Moderator over at Rebelscum. Doesn't that pretty much sum it up?


Anyway, I don't think I've ever come down on Josh about his being an apologist for RS, because I've pretty much accepted that Josh and I view things very differently. His way of looking at things comes off to me as a, "I don't care if anyone treats my friends like **** - so long as they don't treat me like ****" sort of way. It irritates the hell out of me, but only because it conflicts with alot of the things I know about him (that he's a nice guy, haha), but I can't do much about the fact that doesn't see things as what I think they are.

Regardless of what peoples' intentions have been when jabbing at Josh, he's still here and he's said it isn't phasing him in the least.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 5, 2006, 04:23 PM
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I didn't view that as a flame, hopefully Josh didn't, either.

No, I laughed...and actually, after reading it again, I did kind of set myself up for something there. I guess I got off light.  He could have insulted about a billion other things about me.  ;D

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His way of looking at things comes off to me as a, "I don't care if anyone treats my friends like **** - so long as they don't treat me like ****" sort of way.

Not exactly.  I do care about all that stuff that happened 2 years ago, I just think that it could really be water under the bridge now if people wanted to let it go.

I'd go over this again, but I really wanted to drop the whole "Defense of RS" thing.  Everyone hates it here, very few people really want to hear it anyway (other than to say what I have to say is dumb) so that's why I'm saying I'll let it go.  I'm willing to just agree to disagree (even if I'm not planning on being vocal about it).

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but I can't do much about the fact that doesn't see things as what I think they are.

Ultimately, neither can I.  If any of the banned folks here ever decide they want to make a case for going back, I'd be happy to back you up.  I don't think that'll ever happen, but if it ever does, I'm happy to throw my loyalty behind you when it matters.

As for joining the stone throwing, that's where I can't join up.

 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 5, 2006, 04:58 PM
My reasoning for giving the one day suspension to Smartypants is because he pissed me off. Simple as that. This kid comes in posting babble regarding matters he has absolutely no idea about and then tells me, the owner of this site to "STFU"... it just doesn't sit well with me. I'm more than tired of the kids of this forum going around posting one liners and stupid non-sense around the forum and this is just the straw that broke the camels back.

I'll go so far as to say that the "cluepon" wasn't just for Smarty but was kind of a funny, less personal message to everyone who goes on about this subject with their "red glasses" on. All of our staff and those that are fully aware supporters can come up with numerous valid reasons behind our case and they will forever be ignored by certain invididuals. So when Smarty, who is one of the kids who is guilty of posting like a kid (normal, yes- but we cater to more mature, adult collector here) tells me to "STFU" regarding something he is just out of his league about, he was suspended for being disrespectful to me. This wasn't even so much of an issue regarding the "RebelScum" topic and thread as it was about the juvenille postings in general. So the dumb, offensive post to me combined with his utter unknowing of all the facts regarding this subject come up I suspended him. Power trip? No. It's just me making a statement that the ridiculous postings by the younger crowd need to stop.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Deastron on August 5, 2006, 06:33 PM
You know Chris, you're a genius!  Why don't we just have adults post here!  And everyone under 18 can close their accounts!  :P

Adam (Smartypants) felt insulted, because you just posted the image.  If you would've included that you thought it was funny, maybe he wouldn't have reacted the way he did.  He must've reacted the way he did, because he felt offended, and you insulted him, when he was just trying to defend someone.  I know he shouldn't have said "STFU", but still that doesn't seem like a good reason to suspend someone.  But it's your site, you can do whatever you want with it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 5, 2006, 06:41 PM
You know Chris, you're a genius!  Why don't we just have adults post here!

That's the idea. Unless of course you can post like one (ie: Diddly for many years).
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on August 5, 2006, 08:25 PM
We need a Photoshop of her holding Greggers' sculpture, stat.

I know I'm a few days behind on the 'stat' part of this, but this was the best I could do.  I've been horribly busy and there's absolutely no equitable way to cut that damn thing out.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Greg_Trophy.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on August 5, 2006, 11:46 PM
You know Chris, you're a genius!  Why don't we just have adults post here!

That's the idea. Unless of course you can post like one (ie: Diddly for many years).

Aw, shucks. *blushes*
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on August 5, 2006, 11:59 PM
You know Chris, you're a genius!  Why don't we just have adults post here!

That's the idea. Unless of course you can post like one (ie: Diddly for many years).

I can think of another certain teenager who pulled off posting like an adult around here "for many years".  ;)  Although, if I were going to be frank I would say that same advanced maturity he exhibited so well and articulately all over this site seems to be lacking from several posts in this very thread. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 6, 2006, 12:11 AM
You know Chris, you're a genius!  Why don't we just have adults post here!

That's the idea. Unless of course you can post like one (ie: Diddly for many years).

I can think of another certain teenager who pulled off posting like an adult around here "for many years".  ;)  Although, if I were going to be frank I would say that same advanced maturity he exhibited so well and articulately all over this site seems to be lacking from several posts in this very thread. 

I disagree there DP (well, with the part about me in this thread :-*). I'm just tired of the non-sense around here and am going to start coming down harder on people who can't manage themselves. I'd like it if you would cite to me exactly what I've done that was not mature except for make a bit of a joke with the "Cluepon" while driving the point home. This site does not cater to a younger audience and if you are younger and going to fit in here you have to act like an adult. If you don't, you won't be welcome here and that is the reality of the situation. We've been passive with this issue in the past but more and more stupid things are turning up all over here and that kind of thing won't be accepted.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on August 7, 2006, 08:28 AM
You know Chris, you're a genius!  Why don't we just have adults post here!  And everyone under 18 can close their accounts!  :P

Adam (Smartypants) felt insulted, because you just posted the image.  If you would've included that you thought it was funny, maybe he wouldn't have reacted the way he did.  He must've reacted the way he did, because he felt offended, and you insulted him, when he was just trying to defend someone.  I know he shouldn't have said "STFU", but still that doesn't seem like a good reason to suspend someone.  But it's your site, you can do whatever you want with it.

Regardless of the reason for the reaction, Adam is responsible for reacting that way.  Plus, reacting to a sick burn by saying "STFU" is sort of Jr. High School.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 7, 2006, 09:02 AM
Just for the record, one should never tell a fellow member (let alone a staff member) to STFU no matter how pissed you are.

I don't care what kind of message board you're on -

If you let one person get away with it, then everybody is disrepsecting the staff and we'll have total anarchy!

 ;)



Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: name on August 7, 2006, 09:13 AM


 Plus, reacting to a sick burn by saying "STFU" is sort of Jr. High School.

So is using the phrase "sick burn".   :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on August 7, 2006, 10:08 AM
I thought someone would like that.  LOL!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 7, 2006, 01:39 PM
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Just for the record, one should never tell a fellow member (let alone a staff member) to STFU no matter how pissed you are.

I don't know. Chris gave the guy the "Cluepon", which basically said "no one gives a **** what you think and you have your head up your ass".

I thought his response was in kind with the insult, so I was surprised when he was suspended for simply replying in the same manner in which he was insulted.
Even so, it doesn't suprise me that Chris suspended someone that pissed him off.  Is it a little bit of an abuse of power to insult someone and then ban them when they respond to your insult? 

Maybe, but it's his site, so it's his right.

 

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 7, 2006, 02:18 PM
Good point, but I took the cluepon as a joke.  You know, like posting a picture of a donkey (jackass)?

Either way, it was only a day - not a lifetime like RS.

 :P




Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Ennis on August 7, 2006, 08:36 PM
To maybe try to diffuse this stupid rabble, and abuses of power why dont we just lock this damn thread up and be done with it.

I can't beleive something so stupid has gone on for 90+ pages.

As a  amter of fact I beleive I said something about lcking this thig up about page 30 or so.

Personally it seems that this thread has become an entity unto itself, and it has really degenerated into nothing more than a big fklame session. You are turning into the very things that you are insulting.

Crap like this is one of the reasons I left the scum to their own devices a year ago.

I'm going to go back to the customs section now, or possibly enjoy a little vacation for pissing off someone.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on August 7, 2006, 09:57 PM
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Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on August 7, 2006, 11:12 PM
You okeoke Abdyr inoarticykar do noot seem to adnit the don't know how long I have had some of then in my collectuion what I oaid fir

Oh, the memories...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 8, 2006, 02:07 AM
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Just for the record, one should never tell a fellow member (let alone a staff member) to STFU no matter how pissed you are.

I don't know. Chris gave the guy the "Cluepon", which basically said "no one gives a **** what you think and you have your head up your ass".

I thought his response was in kind with the insult, so I was surprised when he was suspended for simply replying in the same manner in which he was insulted.
Even so, it doesn't suprise me that Chris suspended someone that pissed him off.  Is it a little bit of an abuse of power to insult someone and then ban them when they respond to your insult? 

Maybe, but it's his site, so it's his right.


If you read my explanation it shows that my intention was not towards him directly, but to a way of thinking. It's clear though that people should be a bit more surprised when I suspend someone who pisses me off, because if I did it each time it happened, well- you'd be long gone.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 8, 2006, 02:20 AM
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It's clear though that people should be a bit more surprised when I suspend someone who pisses me off, because if I did it each time it happened, well- you'd be long gone.

I dont' know if I'm supposed to be flattered or offended by that.  :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 8, 2006, 11:37 AM
If you read my explanation it shows that my intention was not towards him directly, but to a way of thinking.

I guess it's like me telling somebody (my son?) that he is doing something 'really stupid' (way of thinking about running out in the street from between 2 parked cars) it sounds to him like I'm calling him stupid(even though my intent was not toward him directly but his line of thought). Well, I've been told by many 'EXPERTS' in counseling ect that you just can't say to somebody that they're acting like  an idiot or doing something stupid because then, essentially I am calling them stupid or idiot. Maybe they're right as it never generates the right response. One Example? Seen in this thread performed by SmartyPants.

LOL- I'm sure it helps little if you pick a name like SmartyPants then mouth off like that whether defensive or not.

The DS
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jeff on August 8, 2006, 11:51 AM
I (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/liebe/d026.gif) Rebelscum.  (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/liebe/g106.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on August 8, 2006, 12:39 PM
I guess it's like me telling somebody (my son?) that he is doing something 'really stupid' (way of thinking about running out in the street from between 2 parked cars) it sounds to him like I'm calling him stupid(even though my intent was not toward him directly but his line of thought). Well, I've been told by many 'EXPERTS' in counseling ect that you just can't say to somebody that they're acting like  an idiot or doing something stupid because then, essentially I am calling them stupid or idiot. Maybe they're right as it never generates the right response. One Example? Seen in this thread performed by SmartyPants.

LOL- I'm sure it helps little if you pick a name like SmartyPants then mouth off like that whether defensive or not.

The DS

Well, you know, Rickey Henderson has to do what's best for Rickey Henderson, you know.  I mean, if Rickey Henderson feels that Rickey Henderson needs to tape his bat up higher to be the best Rickey Henderson that Rickey Henderson can be, then Rickey Henderson's gonna tape his bat higher, in a way that Rickey Henderson can perceive as Rickey Henderson can, to be the best Rickey Henderson that Rickey Henderson can or will or want to be as Rickey Henderson qualifying in a Rickey Henderson-esque type of way to be a Rickey Henderson for which all Rickey Hendersons around us, being one Rickey Henderson to speak through Rickey Henderson as a vessel to reach all Rickey Hendersons out there in the world, in a quantitative, Rickey Henderson-esque magnanimous display of Rickey Henderson-tude, and quality that you can find only in Rickey Henderson as Rickey Henderson is wont to do for Rickey Henderson being Rickey Henderson as Rickey Henderson!  You come in here, "Rickey Henderson, how come you tape your bat," you know, Rickey Henderson's gonna answer you in a way that Rickey Henderson can to be. . .  in fact, that reminds me, I gotta give that ************ a phone call, you know?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 8, 2006, 01:34 PM
Wow, the last song you listened to is so fitting for this thread!

 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on August 8, 2006, 01:48 PM
I hear that Radiohead's working on a song called "Tired, Boring, Repetitive cluster****" for their next album.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 8, 2006, 02:31 PM
OFF TOPIC: like the last few posts

That title sounds good for John Hodgeman's thread. with the exception of  the repetitive part, I find it Tiresome, Boring, cluster**** of a read.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 8, 2006, 04:19 PM
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LOL- I'm sure it helps little if you pick a name like SmartyPants then mouth off like that whether defensive or not.

That nickname is as old as I have been online on Lego.com when i was in 2nd grade ;) I just got stuck with it I guess :P

PS Chris, I took it directly, I had no idea it was intended to the entire thread or a group of people in the thread, so sorry.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on August 8, 2006, 07:27 PM
There was a LEGO.com when you were in second grade??!!  What are you, 11 years old?   ;D

There was barely even a USENET when I was in second grade.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on August 8, 2006, 08:04 PM
There wasn't even Star Wars when I was in 2nd grade :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on August 8, 2006, 08:38 PM
Grade 2! Oy! No SW ethier, just the original Planet of the Apes!  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 8, 2006, 10:22 PM
There was a LEGO.com when you were in second grade??!!  What are you, 11 years old?   ;D

There was barely even a USENET when I was in second grade.

Nah dude, I'll be sixteen this January.  >:( I don't exacly remember, but it was in between 2nd and 3rd when we moved to Texas when I joined. So I'm pretty accurate on that
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 9, 2006, 02:19 AM
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There was barely even a USENET when I was in second grade.

There was Usenet when you were in second grade?  Damn. 

I think that was Apple IIE territory for me.


Now we just need someone older to come along and tell us that they didn't even have PCs.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 9, 2006, 02:34 AM
There wasn't even Star Wars when I was in 2nd grade :o

I suppose this is when I stop hitting on you then, hmm? ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on August 9, 2006, 02:59 AM
There wasn't even Star Wars when I was in 2nd grade :o

No kidding.  Tell us something we don't already know, Tracy...  :-*

Was Gone with the Wind even out yet?  :-X




As for my lunch with Tommy (uscwannabe), it did indeed happen last week.  We got together and shot the **** for about 3 hours, and chatted about a number of different topics, including the Fan Club Presidency, of course.  From what Tommy told me, it doesn't sound like he broke any of the rules for the contest, but that perhaps the rules were "ammended" after the contest ended, or the fine print was altered, to bring about his DQ on a technicality.  Whether someone lobbied for that to happen, or the Fan Club or LFL higher-ups preferred Dustin due to the relationship they already had with him/Phillip/RS/TFn/Official Pix, I can't say for sure.  Still totally shady, and since there's now ongoing litigation into the matter, the details unfortunately can't be discussed yet.

But at least the Fan Club was courteous enough to ask Tommy for his address so they could send him the awesome consolation T-shirt prize...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 9, 2006, 04:10 AM
When I was little all we had was the abacus, and...  wait, where am I and why have I soiled myself? [/end old]
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on August 9, 2006, 09:40 AM
Now we just need someone older to come along and tell us that they didn't even have PCs.  ;D

Uh, ok.  In high school they were still running punch cards through and I never took comp. sci. classes.  Mac Classic would be my first computer I owned, around 1991 or so.  That would have been during my first bachelor's degree. 

Grade 2?  Slide rule.  Maybe abacus.  Calculators were too expensive at the time.  Really.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on August 9, 2006, 10:19 AM
There wasn't even Star Wars when I was in 2nd grade :o

No kidding.  Tell us something we don't already know, Tracy...  :-*

Was Gone with the Wind even out yet?  :-X



Hey! >:(  You're not that far behind me. :-*  Brent, would you please send him his little blue pills so he'll have something better to do than pick on me? :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on August 9, 2006, 10:22 AM
I can remember my school getting our first computer (which I believe really was in 2nd Grade) it was a Commadore PET (http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=191), this would have been 1982.  By 1985 there were 20-30 of them in the school, all Apples I believe.  My first year of college would have been my first year on the net which would have been 1993...I can still remember searching for when the next Gn'R album was going to come out.  Still waiting (as TSI doesn't really count)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 9, 2006, 10:45 AM
There wasn't even Star Wars when I was in 2nd grade :o

No kidding.  Tell us something we don't already know, Tracy...  :-*

Was Gone with the Wind even out yet?  :-X



Hey! >:(  You're not that far behind me. :-*  Brent, would you please send him his little blue pills so he'll have something better to do than pick on me? :P

Don't do it Bent...unless those are 'chill pills'
I heard what those blue ones are for...shoot, if you give him that then he'll need her.
'Course then you'll never hear the end of it. As a supplier you be an accessory...'contributing to the delirium of a fellow elderly, ect.'
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: jadesfire on August 9, 2006, 12:54 PM
There wasn't even Star Wars when I was in 2nd grade :o

All I remember was the Laugh-Olympics and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.  Oh and I was the milk maid.  You know, you had to have a carton of milk everyday in class....From the milkman...really, the milkman...

Geesh....I'm old  :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 9, 2006, 01:33 PM
I remember the daily milk break in school.  I wonder if they still do that?  Probably some lactose intolerant kid had a bad reaction, a lawsuit ensued and now milk is outlawed in schools.  Anyway...

I'm old enough that I saw Star Wars in theaters, my first home gaming system was the Atari 2600 and my first computer was a TRS80 from Radio Shack.  I remember top-loading VCR's and when you could still by lawn darts in stores.

In high school we had Apple II computers and by the time I was a senior teachers started requiring that papers be done on the word processor in the computer lab.  But my typing class was still given on old IBM Selectric typewriters. 

I sent my first email on the Internet (technically it was DECnet I think) in 1989 from my college library to some students at another NY college.  By 1991 I had an email pen pal in Haifa Israel.  By 1992 I owned an "IBM compatible" Packard Bell computer, was on USENET buying and selling comic books and downloading pr0rn.  In 1993 we were playing the hell out of "Wolfenstein 3D" (the great grandfather of all your first-person shooters) and I bought my first carded "vintage" ROTJ figure on-line from a guy in Florida.  In that same year I was on IRC hitting on chicks in Chicago (and people think forums, AIM and MySpace are the Devil...where have they been for the last 13 years?).

I built my first web site in late 1994 or early 1995.

I found my first grey hair two years ago.

And technically, none of this has anything to do with Rebelscum...but it is fun to think about sometimes.

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on August 9, 2006, 02:17 PM
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I remember the daily milk break in school.  I wonder if they still do that?  Probably some lactose intolerant kid had a bad reaction, a lawsuit ensued and now milk is outlawed in schools.  Anyway...

According to Super Size Me, milk is still around, but they're trying now to outlaw Soda in school, which wasn't around when I was a kid.  Sweetest drink we could buy on school grounds was chocolate milk.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on August 9, 2006, 02:25 PM
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I remember the daily milk break in school.  I wonder if they still do that?  Probably some lactose intolerant kid had a bad reaction, a lawsuit ensued and now milk is outlawed in schools.  Anyway...

According to Super Size Me, milk is still around, but they're trying now to outlaw Soda in school, which wasn't around when I was a kid.  Sweetest drink we could buy on school grounds was chocolate milk.

We would pour our Pixie Stix into our milk......... :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on August 9, 2006, 03:27 PM
I had a friend in grade school that snorted Pixie Stix.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 9, 2006, 03:29 PM
According to Super Size Me, milk is still around, but they're trying now to outlaw Soda in school, which wasn't around when I was a kid.  Sweetest drink we could buy on school grounds was chocolate milk.

They didn't sell soda in my school either.  There was a juice machine in the front hall and all they sold in the cafaterie was 2% milk, skim milk and chocolate milk.  When I was either a junior or senior they added these healthy hippy milkshake things that weren't actually that bad.  But still no soda, unless you brought it from home.

We would pour our Pixie Stix into our milk......... :)

Ah, Pixie Stix.  I remember those but was never a big fan.  In high school we had a desert bar where you could buy ice cream sandwitches or those little plastic containers of ice cream with the paper top and wooden spoon.  Same place you could get those milkshakes I mentioned.  That was the extent of desert unless you counted the whip cream on the jello.   :P

   E...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on August 9, 2006, 03:29 PM
We would pour our Pixie Stix into our milk......... :)

...Ew.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 9, 2006, 03:41 PM
I had a friend in grade school that snorted Pixie Stix.

As said by Chris griffen to Stewie Griffen. "Don't stick that up your nose, it'll burn like hell."

To bad I tried that once in 6th grade. Man that stuff hurts.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on August 9, 2006, 04:08 PM
I had a friend in grade school that snorted Pixie Stix.

As said by Chris griffen to Stewie Griffen. "Don't stick that up your nose, it'll burn like hell."

To bad I tried that once in 6th grade. Man that stuff hurts.

And we wonder why this country has so many adicts.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on August 9, 2006, 04:18 PM
I know I'm a few days behind on the 'stat' part of this, but this was the best I could do.  I've been horribly busy and there's absolutely no equitable way to cut that damn thing out.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Greg_Trophy.jpg)

Maybe it'd be easier to Photoshop her into Greggers' pic, instead.

It would accomplish two things:  We'd get our photo, and it'd be the first (and possibly only) time he's ever been in the same pic with a female.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 9, 2006, 05:00 PM
I had a friend in grade school that snorted Pixie Stix.

As said by Chris griffen to Stewie Griffen. "Don't stick that up your nose, it'll burn like hell."

To bad I tried that once in 6th grade. Man that stuff hurts.

And we wonder why this country has so many adicts.

Kevin

So are you Cockbite I now? I just thought since Ryan is staff now and all you might've been bumped up a bit.

Yes...in my school we are getting pretty much all sweets taken from us (Senior in HS here). I've been informed that French Club can't sell crepes anymore and Snickers will be one of a few candy bars with enough "nutritional value" to still be sold. Personally, I'll be wearing a nice trenchcoat I picked up at Men's Wearhouse this winter with enough sugar stored inside to pay for my college applications. That's my plan anyhow. ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on August 9, 2006, 05:10 PM
JK, I'll also be a senior, but they haven't done away with candy... yet. I'll have to wait until next week to find out. I know they talked about ridding the schools of sugar, but nothing has happened yet except for the school raising prices at vending machines ($1.00 for a candy bar, $1.50 for a soda can, $1.75 for a Powerade bottle).
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 9, 2006, 05:12 PM

Maybe it'd be easier to Photoshop her into Greggers' pic, instead.



What the hell is that thing anyway?

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 9, 2006, 05:41 PM
In high school we had a desert bar where you could buy ice cream sandwitches or those little plastic containers of ice cream with the paper top and wooden spoon.  Same place you could get those milkshakes I mentioned.  That was the extent of desert unless you counted the whip cream on the jello.   :P

   E...

I HATED those plastic containers thingys. The Ice cream was always hard as a rock and cracked/broke the wooden spoon. All this discussion should be moved to a high school memories/menu thread or something like that..oh well
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on August 10, 2006, 08:40 AM
I'm a school administrator, and I can shed some light on the dietary changes from when we were kids.

Often, a beverage/candy company will "sponsor" a school, giving them a piece of the proceeds from all beverages sold from their machines.  Some see this as a cash cow, and it has been for a while.  Now the pendulum is swinging the other way towards healthier choices for our children.

As far as fund-raising foods for clubs and such, it is a different issue.  The companies that the schools contract with to provide meals to students often have a slim margin to profit.  Increasingly, they are seeing fund-raising and school store foods cannibalizing some of their potential lunchtime sales.  Some believe that the schools sanctioning such sales is a violation of their contract.  I know in our district, unless the food vendor is involved (aside from our High School's vocational restaurant) food cannot be sold on school grounds.  The vendor wants all $2 that Billy's mom gives him in the morning.  Hard to blame them, really.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on August 10, 2006, 08:25 PM
What the hell is that thing anyway?

It's art, you dumbass!  Sheesh.  So uncultured some folks are...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2006, 09:39 PM
Art?  I thought it was a science experiment...
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on August 10, 2006, 10:55 PM
He means the thing Greg(g) is holding, not Greg(g) himself.

Kevin
Title: problems over at rebelscum?
Post by: Darth Depressis on August 16, 2006, 03:16 PM
em i the only not able to talk on message boards or have they banned or blocked each account i've opened? any news on this sorta thing?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on August 16, 2006, 04:07 PM
Didn't you and some other people get in a big fight over there? Maybe that had something to do with it.

When you go there, does it say that you "have been banned from the Rebelsum forums"?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 16, 2006, 04:42 PM
em i the only not able to talk on message boards or have they banned or blocked each account i've opened? any news on this sorta thing?

Was this really necesarry to post in JediDefender's 'Announcements' section?

I think I have a good idea of why you might have had your multiple accounts banned/blocked at RS.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 16, 2006, 04:50 PM

I think I have a good idea of why you might have had your multiple accounts banned/blocked at RS.

Improper use of the English language?  Including, but not limited to, omission of key words and/or punctuation?

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 16, 2006, 05:03 PM
That may be it.

That, or perhaps he was posting stupid threads (about the inability to participate at competitor websites) in the Announcement section designated for site news, despite the fact that it is generally only used by the site staff? I don't know, I'm just throwing out some random suggestions...

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 16, 2006, 05:51 PM
u know soemthing, yuo may be write. i never though of that...



Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on September 3, 2006, 09:15 PM
Talk about mods being asleep at the wheel today.  jonny777777777 is tearing that place down.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Roton7 on September 3, 2006, 10:16 PM
Of course...Mr. Wise MUST come in and ruin all the fun. :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: HWR on September 5, 2006, 02:16 AM
Speaking of Rebel Scum, can anyone provide me with a real photo of GNT (not the guy in the Optimis Prime costume og the Geek with the wierd object).

Also has anyone found a true photo og Lady Jaye, I remember seeing one here on JD a year or two ago, but not sure if it was real.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 5, 2006, 09:48 AM
To find the threads where Greg(g) and Bertha's photos were revealed, you'd have to search back to when these Rebelscum related threads were actually amusing - back when most of our members actually knew what the ******* beef was to boot.

The pictures of GNT and LadyJaye are both the real deal. The joy didn't come from finally putting a face to the name, though - the real prize was being able to hear their absolutely retarded denial stories.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on September 5, 2006, 11:05 AM
Speaking of Rebel Scum, can anyone provide me with a real photo of GNT (not the guy in the Optimis Prime costume og the Geek with the wierd object).

But the geek with the weird object is GNT. . . 

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)

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Also has anyone found a true photo og Lady Jaye, I remember seeing one here on JD a year or two ago, but not sure if it was real.

Yep, real photo.

(http://www.yesprep.org/Photo_Album/Class_of_2002/Bertha.jpg)

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: HWR on September 5, 2006, 11:06 AM
- the real prize was being able to hear their absolutely retarded denial stories.

Oh yes "this is not me, this is my cousin Greg". I truelly remember that one.  :D  ;D

But actually i did not think, that it relaly was him on the photo. Better find it again and the one of Lady Jaye  too.
 

edit: Matthew posted same time as me, thanks Matthew that spares me the time.  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on September 5, 2006, 11:08 AM
Oh yes "this is not me, this is my cousin Greg". I truelly remember that one.  :D  ;D

But actually i did not think, that it relaly was him on the photo. Better find it again and the one of Lady Jaye  too.

Yeah, someone should do that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on September 5, 2006, 11:12 AM
Henrik, how'd your "convention planning meeting" go?  You posted once, and then haven't been back on until now--a couple of us were growing concerned.  That ain't cool, man, so what's the haps?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 5, 2006, 11:20 AM
Yeah, didn't you guys have a slumber party or something? Did you play Star Wars Trivia games in your Phantom Menace PJ's? Come on, dude... we know you've got pictures.

 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: HWR on September 5, 2006, 11:24 AM
Well I just updated that post.

Well notnig bad (or good) happened at all, you see the third organizer was male, so that's killed any ideas of interesting games for me. Might have been fun in our host mind anyway (who is female), but definatly not in mine.  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 5, 2006, 05:34 PM
I'd say two celebrities are OBVIOUSLY lined up for this...  And these are the photos they shall autograph...  Official Pix obviously will handle all this.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on September 5, 2006, 09:08 PM
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Yep, real photo.

Though I haven't heard Gregg mention his image in years (since the original thread here) "Lady Jaye" still swears up and down that that's not her.  Anytime that picture is mentioned she says it's someone else with the same name from the same town.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 5, 2006, 11:09 PM
She's obviously too old to be that girl who looks like a latino Lady Jaye, who has the same name as her, and went to the same school as her - afterall Bertha saw ESB in theatres.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on September 5, 2006, 11:12 PM
She's obviously too old to be that girl who looks like a latino Lady Jaye, who has the same name as her, and went to the same school as her - afterall Bertha saw ESB in theatres.

Brad is correct.  There is no way the girl in the picture is Lady Jaye, she's clearly Bizzaro Bertha.  Same name, same town, but different.  And I read she's dating Gregg's cousin long distance.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on September 6, 2006, 12:09 AM
But do they live in the same apartment, like Steve Comenzo and his cousin Steve Comenzo?   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on September 6, 2006, 01:08 PM
I bet Jim Ward is involved in this some how.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on September 8, 2006, 06:26 PM
Why do you guys gotta be such ********??!?!?!?!!??!!?!?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on September 8, 2006, 11:21 PM
Why do you guys gotta be such ********??!?!?!?!!??!!?!?

U R so mean!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on September 9, 2006, 01:29 AM
Now this is amusing:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2137694

Enjoy it before it disappears.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on September 9, 2006, 01:36 AM
Oh my... my... my... my!  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on September 9, 2006, 01:40 AM
Ian_C.  Damn Canadians.  >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on September 9, 2006, 01:44 AM
He's from the eastside of canucklefuck!  :-X   
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on September 9, 2006, 02:02 AM
Ha.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: name on September 9, 2006, 08:58 AM
ok...so what was it?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on September 9, 2006, 10:13 AM
I beleive cable's link was the late Friday night thread dealing with a certain cinematic style that is famous for using copious amounts of a certain bodily fluid.


but new moderator Amir is laying the smack down, kicking arse and takin' initials.  He just shut down a thread dedicated to hamburgers!  The horror!!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 9, 2006, 03:02 PM
Bukkake and Hamburgers. Fantastic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on September 9, 2006, 10:21 PM
Special sauce.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 9, 2006, 10:29 PM
Nice one.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on September 10, 2006, 02:24 AM
Whose **** did he suck to become a mod after being a member for 9 months?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Rob L on September 10, 2006, 08:51 AM
It's not unprecedented, you just have to have exceptional natural mod talent  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on September 11, 2006, 09:28 AM
That...or a ****sucker.

Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CloneCommander1 on September 13, 2006, 07:00 PM
I don't know if anyone's seen this before, but I thought it was pretty funny.
Click Me (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=OTC/votc04r2-d2eye.jpg&text=Dustin%20loves%20to%20polish%20his%20shiny%20dome)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on September 13, 2006, 11:00 PM
Ok, that is pretty god damn funny.

I actually laughed out loud at that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: HWR on September 14, 2006, 01:03 AM
Whose **** did he suck to become a mod after being a member for 9 months?

Well on our forum (skywalker.dk), we have a member, who became admin after only 7 month on the forums. Ok both the webmaster an I had met her in real life (no funny jokes here please  ;)). But it's still a very fast promotion.

But this is a litle different, RS is a huge forum so becomming a mod after 9 month is a bit odd. Surely severel "older" member might have been a better choice.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 14, 2006, 04:04 AM
Yes, their depth chart goes right up to about the sole of my shoe....  Their track record for moderators hasn't been too spiffy in the past, considering they pick up people that enjoy stirring the pot as much as they enjoyed locking threads down.

When Greg(g) is your #1 rolemodel for how to perform the task, you can't expect a whole lot better of course.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on September 28, 2006, 07:19 AM
Anyone else notice in the newest edition of the Insider where they annouce Dustin's win of the Presidency contest that there is also a page and a half write up in Sansweets seciton about none other the Philip Wise and Rebelscum?
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on September 28, 2006, 09:06 AM
Yeah ... I just read it last night.  I wondered how long it would take for that subject to pop up in this thread.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 28, 2006, 09:45 AM
Yeah, I read that too, even though I canceled my subscription, I still got this issue in the mail. ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: dafoo on September 28, 2006, 02:19 PM
Heh, wow this is a massive thread.  I'd never heard of Rebelscum until I joined Jefidefender.  I still have never visited the site.   Am I pure then?  =p
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on September 28, 2006, 02:40 PM
Pretty lame. I still wonder how he won and what happened to the other guy who was ahead.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on September 28, 2006, 04:26 PM
Pretty lame. I still wonder how he won and what happened to the other guy who was ahead.

He is being studied...

(http://www.indianajones.de/indy1/pics/trivia_10.jpg)

...by Top men.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on September 28, 2006, 04:30 PM
Pretty lame. I still wonder how he won and what happened to the other guy who was ahead.

He was invented by the gov. so they could raise the price of oil  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on October 6, 2006, 11:41 AM

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Also has anyone found a true photo og Lady Jaye, I remember seeing one here on JD a year or two ago, but not sure if it was real.

Yep, real photo.

(http://www.yesprep.org/Photo_Album/Class_of_2002/Bertha.jpg)

Wow you guys are still talking about the scum??? Man I thought this whole thing was over.  I haven't visited this site in a while, and yet this thread continues! Does the scum fancy you all so much, that you need to discuss it. I would invite you guys to visit and join in the conversation, but you know. LOL!!

Oh and if you want to believe that pic is me, fine. But let's use some logic here, if that pic is from Class of 2002 photo album, then that means even if I graduated high school say at the age 0f 20 in 1992 I would have been 10, and in 1982 I would have been 0!! Now what does this mean?? Think about it with an inquisitive mind, and you'll come to a right and proper conclusion! But of course you won't, it'll be the same spiteful rhetoric given against scummers. Oh well....continue on with the grand facination that you seem to have with the scum! ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on October 6, 2006, 11:42 AM
Wow you guys are still talking about the scum??? Man I thought this whole thing was over.  I haven't visited this site in a while, and yet this thread continues! Does the scum fancy you all so much, that you need to discuss it. I would invite you guys to visit and join in the conversation, but you know. LOL!!

Oh and if you want to believe that pic is me, fine. But let's use some logic here, if that pic is from Class of 2002 photo album, then that means even if I graduated high school say at the age 0f 20 in 1992 I would have been 10, and in 1982 I would have been 0!! Now what does this mean?? Think about it with an inquisitive mind, and you'll come to a right and proper conclusion! But of course you won't, it'll be the same spiteful rhetoric given against scummers. Oh well....continue on with the grand facination that you seem to have with the scum! ::)

Oh, God, balls, hell.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on October 6, 2006, 11:44 AM
Oh, God, balls, hell.

There's my favorite JD'er!! Much love to ya Birchy!! :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on October 6, 2006, 11:50 AM
I LOVE YOU, BERTHA!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on October 6, 2006, 11:53 AM
Right back at ya babe!!!! In fact here's two smooches for you!! :-* :-* Just cause your you!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on October 6, 2006, 12:09 PM
(http://www.borked.us/attention_whore3.jpg)
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on October 6, 2006, 12:11 PM
Yes after 4 plus months of not being here, ya got me pegged boyo!! But hey, there's always love for ya okies! :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on October 6, 2006, 12:16 PM
Yes after 4 plus months of not being here, ya got me pegged boyo!! But hey, there's always love for ya okies! :-*

Sure you haven't been here in a while, but you come back and you try to start up a bunch of **** with people you know don't want you here--you're a ******' attention whore.  Happens every so often with you, and I'm sure this won't be the last time, either.
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on October 6, 2006, 12:28 PM
(http://www.borked.us/attention_whore3.jpg)

Man... she needs to go in the Hotties thread!
Title: Re: Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on October 6, 2006, 12:31 PM
Man... she needs to go in the Hotties thread!

Sorry if I got anybody in trouble by posting that pic outside of said thread. . .  but not too sorry.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jeff on October 6, 2006, 12:44 PM
Just for fun, I merged every "Rebelscum bitching" thread we've ever had at JD into this one.  Now you can enjoy 220+ pages of various kinds of Rebelscum bitching and bashing over the last 3+ years all in one place! 

Spam e-mail!  Bannings!  Stupid Mods!  Offensive Usernames!  Trolls!  Log-in problems!  Site down times!  Photoshopped GNT!  This thread has got it all... 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on October 6, 2006, 01:14 PM
I was wondering why the page count kept changing every five minutes...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on October 6, 2006, 01:16 PM
It's like heaven and hell all wrapped up into one ridiculously long thread.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on October 6, 2006, 01:27 PM
It's like heaven and hell all wrapped up into one ridiculously long thread.

My vote goes to the latter half.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on October 6, 2006, 01:40 PM
So here's a common sense question:

Bertha, it's clear that no one really believes that picture isn't a picture of you.  Although I've asked you once or twice for a real image over the years, basically at this point I'm just giving you the benefit of the doubt when you say it's not.  People stopped bugging you about it years ago because they just stopped caring. As far as most of us are concerned, the mystery was solved once your image was finally posted all those years ago.  Even if that's not you, that's the face that goes with the name for now.

Since most of us have had what we think is an image of you for years and nothing bad has ever come of it, if that's REALLY not you......why don't you just end the whole mistaken identity thing and post a real picture?  
  
Say hi to all these people you've been talking to for half a decade as a real person instead of a cartoon character.



Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Dan on October 6, 2006, 01:49 PM
Holy crap! First time I have sifted through this thread, and I have to say, Holy crap! (I know, I'm a poet).

How could I not post after spending the last hour (or two) checking this thread out?

But I would give Lady Jaye potential credit for one thing. The last thing I would do if I were her would be to actually provide a pic to you photoshop savvy guys for future abuse! I have a mental image of a camel with poo-matted fur with a tweaked head attached....

Jeff should be president. Then we could begin building the kubrick filled new world order. Long live the bricky almost-president-elect!

Carry on.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on October 6, 2006, 02:14 PM
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But I would give Lady Jaye potential credit for one thing. The last thing I would do if I were her would be to actually provide a pic to you photoshop savvy guys for future abuse! I have a mental image of a camel with poo-matted fur with a tweaked head attached....

Although there are definitely many smartasses here, I think it's clear she's genuinely afraid of that happening, so I think people would probably leave her image alone. 

That picture of her on the last page has been around for years and has never been photoshopped as far as I know.....but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on October 6, 2006, 03:46 PM
has never been photoshopped as far as I know.....

You just had to say that....
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JayDouble on October 6, 2006, 05:42 PM
Just for fun, I merged every "Rebelscum bitching" thread we've ever had at JD into this one.  Now you can enjoy 220+ pages of various kinds of Rebelscum bitching and bashing over the last 3+ years all in one place! 

Spam e-mail!  Bannings!  Stupid Mods!  Offensive Usernames!  Trolls!  Log-in problems!  Site down times!  Photoshopped GNT!  This thread has got it all... 

Isn't this suppose to be thread 23 on the subject continuing?   :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on October 6, 2006, 07:31 PM
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You just had to say that....

I said "as far as I know" just in case it's already been done, not to encourage someone to do it now.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on October 6, 2006, 08:35 PM
 ;)

It sounded like an open invitation, that's all.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: jkno on October 7, 2006, 05:58 AM
O, man, this is like a maze in here, hundreds of pages in the thread.  :) It' like in a toy store when you don't know where to look first...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: dafoo on October 7, 2006, 03:31 PM
Just how long would it take one to read this entire thread?

Is there a thread size limit here? heh
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on October 10, 2006, 06:47 PM
Wow the old Bertha picture debate is back. Who knows if that's her or not.  Remember it's all about the personality of the poster. No picture will ever due justice of she who calls herself Lady Jaye.
(Even though the "It's Bertha in that picture" camp has provided a better explination for why the picture is of her.)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on October 10, 2006, 07:09 PM
,,,provided a better explination for why the they the picture is of her.

Um....what?

:)

John
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on October 10, 2006, 10:32 PM
Whoops. Have to type sober next time. I'll go edit it so it makes sense.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on October 11, 2006, 12:25 AM
And what is that explanation, I haven't read it.

Anyhow the real reason for my stopping by, I don't know if anyone here knew him or not, but one of our own past away last week, Nute Gunray (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=2192650&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) No parent should ever have to feel the loss of a son or daughter. And no one should die so young, so full of hope for the future.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Cory Chaos on October 11, 2006, 12:46 AM
Looks like my name came up in conversation? That's funny. Captain Piet still ahs a chubby for me.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on October 11, 2006, 02:12 AM
I still have a chubby for Jango Fettish. :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on October 11, 2006, 10:03 AM
And what is that explanation, I haven't read it.

Anyhow the real reason for my stopping by, I don't know if anyone here knew him or not, but one of our own past away last week, Nute Gunray (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=2192650&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) No parent should ever have to feel the loss of a son or daughter. And no one should die so young, so full of hope for the future.

There's a thread established over here about the passing of Nute. Nice kid. Looks as had lots of friends.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 11, 2006, 01:45 PM
Efficiancy Alert:

A Classified thread that was obviously scalping (30 POP Lucas stickers for $250) was finally closed today. The thread was started 13 days ago and within hours, if not minutes, was reported to moderators. Glad to see that they're watching their members backs. ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on October 11, 2006, 03:24 PM
Ridiculous.

That whole site is ridiculous. I only really post in the customs and the TSC Forums there anyways, but there was a thread questioning the moderators about why they lock/delete threads they don't agree with in Wuher's. Of course, it was locked after 16 replies by Dave Myatt, saying:
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You know, you are all missing a point here: This isn't "America" this is a forum...a forum about Star Wars toys. And it's one you don't own, pay for, or make the rules for (same applies for me) so if you don't like it, no one is forcing you to stay.

So, unless you are asking us to close your account for you because you don't want to post here any more and don't want to continue to be a part of the Rebelscum community, you should just sit back and enjoy the forum.

There is no "dictatorship" here. Matter of fact that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. You'll be much happier when you come to realize this is a Star Wars collector's forum, not a country under the fist of a tyrannical leader. You choose to be here, and if you post comments like that maybe you need to ask yourself why you continue to post here.

There is no reason for us to keep a thread like this continuing.
There is no way complaining about the rules that you agreed to when you signed up to this forum will have them changed or disregarded.

If we don't like it, don't join? WTF? Ever think that somebody joins for the community, not the stupid little tightass rules they have over there? If we post comments voicing our own opinions about the moderator's actions, we shouldn't post at all anymore?

So, I attempted to bring back the topic, saying that we should be allowed to voice our own opinions about the going-ons in the forums.

It was re-locked after two replies by good 'ol Dave Myatt again.
Quote
you're right. This one will be locked too.

Darth_Nirvana : First off, the thread was locked, not deleted. Same thing with the Medicom thread in the 12" forum. locked, not deleted. You see, someone started spamming that forum right after the thread was locked, and in doing so, pushed it back to another page.


As stated before, no one is forcing you to be a part of this forum community, you do it of your own free will, so you know what that means. As stated before, this discussion is counter productive, and has no place, so we'll not continue discussing it.

Now, I did make the mistake of putting "Deleted" instead of "Locked" in the title, which was a simple mistake.

I don't know why he thinks its counter-productive, and how does it "have no place" in a forum that's labeled as "Your Star Wars fan and collector community. We serve all kinds here!"?

I'm just a little bit annoyed right now.  >:( 
 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on October 11, 2006, 03:45 PM
IMO, there is one thing RS is good for and that's the vintage forums.  There are a lot of knowledgeable, polite guys over there.  Yes, sometimes their heads get a little big, but for the most part, they're pretty cool (and most know their stuff).

There's a lot of discussion in the 12" forums too but mostly it's complaining and Dave showing off his photography skills.  That and his endless Sideshow brown-nosing.

So basically, anything you need/want to know about Star Wars collecting can be found right here. 

The only thing you should have to visit RS for is a vintage questions/discussion.

The Classifieds get a lot of hits but one must proceed with caution.  There's nothing more expensive than a good deal.  Don't get me wrong, there are some stand up members, but for every good guy, there are ten scam artists.



Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on October 12, 2006, 08:14 PM
The reason I went back over there is due to the fact the GG section has more traffic. But now that's marred by everyone's drama with one kid.  ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Dan on October 12, 2006, 09:05 PM
It is very sad that Philip passed away. I can't imagine losing one of my kids. I also can't imagine how they could post a memo about it on their front page, and have one of the pathetic little pop up ads in it, and on the word family to boot. For a brief moment I thought it might be a link to a caring bridge site or a memorial the family had made. nope, a pop up ad for a gamestation. Nice.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on October 12, 2006, 09:13 PM
I hadn't even seen that till you mentioned it.  Lame.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JayDouble on October 13, 2006, 02:21 AM
Nice seeing your collection on the front page Rob.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Hemish on October 13, 2006, 06:41 AM
I still pop over to RS for the GG stuff, I cant believe all the crap thats going on there with this kid trying to rip people off in the GG section, its gone on 5 pages and no sign of mod or any mod help, I had an issue here with a member and it was acted upon quick smart and the issue was resolved, It seems they dont give a crap over there and what happens to their members.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2006, 10:25 AM
Nice seeing your collection on the front page Rob.

Indeed! :)

There are many more images in my sig link below for those who haven't seen them yet.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on October 13, 2006, 09:02 PM
First off my condulences to Phillip's family and friends with the loss. 

I'm glad RS removed that link from that news post about his passing, that was tasteless.   I now only  use RS just to check out the GG section and see if anyone has anything for sale or trade, which sounds like its getting risker. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on October 17, 2006, 04:06 PM
Amazing.  I've stopped posting at RS except for the Local Finds section.  The forums were getting too bloated with useless posts and took too long to wade through.  I long in from time to time, but nowhere near the amount I used to.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ook on October 19, 2006, 03:11 AM
LOL Someone's disgruntled (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2208309&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2208309).
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on October 19, 2006, 04:09 AM
Dead link...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ook on October 19, 2006, 04:12 AM
Yeah, they got rid of it. Somebody felt the need to post a pornographic photoshop of Myatt.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on October 19, 2006, 08:29 AM
Yeah, they got rid of it. Somebody felt the need to post a pornographic photoshop of Myatt.

Was that posted again?  Two nights ago, some guy posted a Photoshop pic of Dave "servicing" the Sideshow 12-inch Luke Skywalker figure.  And he posted it in about 30 - 40 threads.  The picture was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on October 19, 2006, 09:07 AM
Sure would like to see that pic if anyone saved it...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ook on October 19, 2006, 09:15 AM
Yeah, that was it, Neal. I'll e-mail it, Ruiner.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on October 19, 2006, 12:16 PM
Or you could post it here for the world to see!

 :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 19, 2006, 12:40 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ook on October 19, 2006, 01:05 PM
Are we allowed to post pictures of penises here? ???
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on October 19, 2006, 01:10 PM
Probably not a prudent thing.  I'm guessing it won't last long here either.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on October 19, 2006, 01:59 PM
I didn't realize SideShow figures were anatomically correct...

(http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_images/2006/0913/dc-012.JPG)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on October 19, 2006, 02:05 PM
No posting that photo here guys.  We don't condone that.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Artoo on October 21, 2006, 10:20 PM
Poor Nute. :( Me & him used to be buds. Until RS banned me. ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on October 25, 2006, 09:24 PM
Well, I was waiting for it to happen.  My post in the Vintage section of RS saying a few words about ToyTraderz (http://www.toytraderz.com) was closed.  The reason?  "Promotion of external sites is not allowed by forum rules. Sorry."  I love the fact that within 10 posts of my own was this thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2192999&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2192999) and this (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2193073&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2193073).

Classic.  :)  I can safely say I've made my last post there, with the exception of needing to follow up on this issue.  I'd love to know who closed it, but there wasn't an "edited by" tag. 

John
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 26, 2006, 01:08 AM
Wow...and I think the vintage guys are the only group they haven't pissed off over there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on October 29, 2006, 01:43 AM
The reason I went back over there is due to the fact the GG section has more traffic. But now that's marred by everyone's drama with one kid.  ::)

Talk about a cesspool devoid of moderators, the kid's latest tactic has been to title his replies "[censored] REBELSCUM! GO TOO YODA'S NEWS.COM!". ::)

Link Here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2181384&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2181384)

Then some new guy shows up selling a Red AOTC Clone bust and gets accused of being the kid, and after several reports to mods it's still running here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ggclassifieds&Number=2208798&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all).

I think Yodasnews new gentlegiantcollectors.com site will be seeing a lot of new traffic.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 29, 2006, 11:32 AM
I keep reporting ebay links to personal auctions that never get delt with.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on October 29, 2006, 01:01 PM
Nothing new at all there though...  It's why I don't even bother with the classifieds there really.  I wonder how the guy is tied to/knows Yoda's News though? 

I guess those new people nobody's ever heard of that they hired are doing a bang-up job over yonder?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on October 29, 2006, 06:45 PM
The reason I went back over there is due to the fact the GG section has more traffic. But now that's marred by everyone's drama with one kid.  ::)

Talk about a cesspool devoid of moderators, the kid's latest tactic has been to title his replies "[censored] REBELSCUM! GO TOO YODA'S NEWS.COM!". ::)

Link Here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2181384&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2181384)


Well they finally locked that thread. Now they need to lock a few more. Clean up that classifieds area.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 30, 2006, 12:37 PM
Wow.

Amazing how long that sort of stuff is allowed to last without some sort of action. You'll see something like that, where numerous people have been screwed over, sit for days without a single comment by a staff member - meanwhile, if someone dares to criticize one of their bootlegging staff members... It'll disappear like it never happened. Inconsistent response times, indeed.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on November 1, 2006, 10:35 AM
Looks like it's time for another thread purge or something over there.  The past three days I've had trouble loading up the forum, with it failing half the time.  And last night I started getting that wonderful page full of database error messages.   :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on November 1, 2006, 10:43 AM
Looks like it's time for another thread purge or something over there.  The past three days I've had trouble loading up the forum, with it failing half the time.  And last night I started getting that wonderful page full of database error messages.   :P

The Forum wasn't working last night ... and it continues to **** the bed this morning.  Great software they have over there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 15, 2006, 09:26 AM
Dealing with another Scammer at scum who's ripped off over a grand so far from various people. Members are starting to ask where the mods are, I'm trying to tell them that anyone in authority will only hinder any attempts at justice. :-X
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on November 15, 2006, 04:13 PM
The term "Too good to be true" rings a bell. Especially when the guy had zero feedback.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on November 15, 2006, 06:55 PM
Links?  I'm in the middle of two deals and want to stay far away from any known scammers.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on November 15, 2006, 08:57 PM
The guys username is nWo. There are links in the GG and Modern classified sections. You can't miss them they both are at least 3 pages long.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 16, 2006, 10:30 AM
The guy was pretty stupid. First, he used paypal and is getting burned by them rght now, Second, he didn't try to hide the fact that he had been banned previously for doing the same thing and got caught and burned by the feds.

The annoying thing is that a few people guessed that the guy was scamming early on, but didn't do any investigating and were wrong about his real identity. They came off as impatient and whiny, so no one heeded their warnings. :P

He's been e-mail everyone now telling them too expect a refund. We'll see how that goes.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on November 16, 2006, 03:13 PM
The Lady Jaye picture controversy (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2253377&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1) continues!  Now locked.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2006, 03:30 PM
I think my favorite part of that, besides the routine denial, is that GNT made a double post to lock the thread...  There's something poetic about that.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on November 17, 2006, 05:09 AM
He's been on a thread closing tangent as of late.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on November 17, 2006, 07:21 AM
With that recurring theme, I think if it were me, I would have just posted a picture by now just to shut everyone up about it.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on November 17, 2006, 07:25 AM
With that recurring theme, I think if it were me, I would have just posted a picture by now just to shut everyone up about it.

Why?  Its a guaranteed attention-getter ::)  It obviously still works.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 17, 2006, 01:57 PM
On a slightly different note, Kudos to the mods here over that spammer that hit JD the other day.  I noticed the rather odd pm's from someone I didn't know and that he was banned before I even had a chance to report it.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 17, 2006, 03:01 PM
On a slightly different note, Kudos to the mods here over that spammer that hit JD the other day.  I noticed the rather odd pm's from someone I didn't know and that he was banned before I even had a chance to report it.

Agreed, just be lucky if any of you didn't get that PM...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on November 17, 2006, 03:39 PM
Well it did shatter my mental impression on the stature of Asian men, so maybe it served some purpose after all. :-*
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on November 17, 2006, 06:28 PM
LOL.  Yeah, I was justifiably shocked.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2006, 01:32 AM
That could've been on any man, and impressions would've been shattered.  Short of having 4 legs, nothing was natural on that.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on November 23, 2006, 12:07 PM
Forums have been a craptastic disaster since last night. Can't even get logged on.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on November 23, 2006, 12:13 PM
Forums have been a craptastic disaster since last night. Can't even get logged on.

So ... it's not just my computer then.  I think I was able to sneak one post in there this morning, but that's been about it since last night.
Their software really sucks.  At least these Forums work when you want them to.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nirvana on November 23, 2006, 04:20 PM
It's been screwed up on mine since about 1 o clock today, I can read topics (sometimes) but when I try to post it gives me some page full of SQL errors or some **** like that.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 30, 2006, 11:52 AM
You have to give credit where credit is due. RS did credit JD with the unveiling of the wave 3 Stormtrooper on the front page.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 30, 2006, 05:13 PM
Dan and I are friends on some level since he and I both have some affiliation with FFURG and met up at C3...  He's good guy and we like to think we acknowledge RS when they've got the word too.  Like I've always said Anton, the whole JD/RS thing is less than some make it out to be...  I think it mostly all has always revolved around their forums, and how it was a place we all once enjoyed but have now become a quagmire of rampant stupidity, and not just from the newbs.  There's some longtime members there that are just as stupid in their behavior around those, and other boards.  They also tend to be the ones making it out to be more too.

The beefs have been between some specific people though, not site vs. site really.  Obviously though, I'd say 99.9% stemmed from the forums and how they've been run (and how long-term, good contributors to them were treated) since they were the good old BHC.  Thus we have our own thing here...  As far as news goes though, we're just like Scum and Galactic Hunter with our efforts here, and we tend to mention each other where it's due and not shared info.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: David on December 30, 2006, 07:11 PM
Dan is a good guy.

unlike some of RS's staff it seems.

after i joined JD i decided I would check out RS forums but once I saw the 1,000billionkajillion completely stupid and poorly defined rules i just said to myself '**** this' and forgot about it.

the only affiliation i've ever had with RS is when I reported finding a new wave of galactic heroes and got my first name (david) posted on the homepage. 

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Galactic_Heroes_Found_101332.asp

 ::)  :P

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Depressis on January 2, 2007, 01:14 AM
i gotta say a part of me will always hate most the ppl on RS forums, when i first joined i thought I'd found somewhere you could voice your opinion on hasbro and not get a retarded retort from ppl whom must be paid by hasbro or at least have some sort of stake in them since i dare anyone to blast '06s repack collection at any length and watch yourself become intangled in a massive argue fest the likes of which God has never seen(Dune), it is only once you've been at the the height such controversy over having said stupid things that you will have the courage to resign your screenname from RS and find refuge here on a site that isn't overly pimping everything : Master replicas, Gentle Giant, and of course anything repacked,reprinted, or retarded. the only good thing about RS has to be the pn's,Customs and of course the custom alliance. other than that they might as well close it with theforce.net while there at it.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on January 2, 2007, 01:47 AM
There once was a time when I would have lampooned the RS membership for their lax standards of language. However, to do so today without making proper mention of the current plight some of our newer members seem to be having would be both hypocritical and unbecoming, so.

 :P

(Bei Got, I need some sleep.)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on January 2, 2007, 10:54 AM
However, to do so today without making proper mention of the current plight some of our newer members seem to be having would be both hypocritical and unbecoming, so.

 :P

(Bei Got, I need some sleep.)

Please cite me a few examples, here or via PM.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on January 2, 2007, 11:35 AM
I think Vator was referring to the trouble that some of the members were having with grammar and the English language in general -- not with JD :).
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on January 2, 2007, 01:54 PM
That's probably because Vator has a greater understanding of the English language than most anyone here...he's bound to be frustrated, as I will be too, now that we have a...


 :D Spell Check! :D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on January 2, 2007, 05:13 PM
However, to do so today without making proper mention of the current plight some of our newer members seem to be having would be both hypocritical and unbecoming, so.

 :P

(Bei Got, I need some sleep.)

Please cite me a few examples, here or via PM.

Tracy hit it on the head, Chris. That some of our newer members seem to be having problems with grammar, punctuation, and just English in general; all I was saying.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on January 2, 2007, 07:36 PM
Gotcha.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on January 2, 2007, 09:01 PM
Chris, I'm not really a new member, but seeing as it seems like you're showing some concern for the well-being of the members, then please know that I am offended that you still haven't offered to fly me out and put me up for Toy Fair.

Jerk.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on January 3, 2007, 03:13 PM
Normally I wouldn't comment or give a turd about Rebelscum outages, but I have to ask...is anyone else getting directed to foxmovies.com when they go to the RS forums?

John
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on January 3, 2007, 03:44 PM
Working OK for me.

Perhaps you allowed your cursor to hover over one of the many damn annoying double underlined advertisement popups, and clicked on that instead.

I so hate the RS homepage now, I feel like I'm navigating a mine field just trying to click on what I intended. >:(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on January 3, 2007, 03:59 PM
Perhaps you allowed your cursor to hover over one of the many damn annoying double underlined advertisement popups, and clicked on that instead.

Nope, not it.  I have the forums bookmarked, and I've tried from both there and from the front page.  I even cleared out my cookies, internet history and temp files.

Weird.

John
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on January 3, 2007, 04:05 PM
No problems at my end.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on January 3, 2007, 05:45 PM
I had no issue visiting their front page today either John...

Max makes a good point.  I can't stand that damn spam on their front page you have to navigate now.  That's just attrocious looking in the first place, but moreover it's annoying as **** since it pops up regardless of how fast you're moving or close you come to that crap...  If there's a good reason not to spend much time reading anything there, that's sure as **** it right now.  Wish they'd do away with that since I can't imagine they're that hard up for paying sponsors.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sithbaker on January 3, 2007, 08:20 PM
Perhaps you allowed your cursor to hover over one of the many damn annoying double underlined advertisement popups, and clicked on that instead.

Nope, not it.  I have the forums bookmarked, and I've tried from both there and from the front page.  I even cleared out my cookies, internet history and temp files.

Weird.

John

Browser hijacked?
I`ve had that happen to me when I used IE.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on January 3, 2007, 08:58 PM
Not sure what it was.  Around an hour later it worked OK.  Maybe someone in my IT department was ******* with me?  :)

John
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on January 4, 2007, 03:16 PM
If the IT department was doing it, they would probably re-route you to monster.com ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: R5Don4 on February 28, 2007, 12:25 AM
What the hell is going on over there with all those new toy section reveiw sections???  I can't see anything ever happening in 90% of them. 

I guess they are trying to broaden their appeal to advertisers.  Money, money, money.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2007, 01:36 AM
Eh, I assume it's just them trying to generate interest, and maintain a forum for, the new site Curto and Myatt kicked off...  Honestly it's not my cup of tea, but they're trying to draw in the crowd they have (knowing toy guys collect other toy lines usually) into discussion on other said toys...  Rather than form and host an entirely new forum at their new site of course.  They are starting as the underdog as there's already large established "general" toy websites out there with forum crowds and things.

I'm a star wars guy though so it's not the kind of thing that piques my interest much...  I tend to stick primarility to discussing this stuff.  Don't drift too far away.  It's too time consuming for me, and I don't even collect much more than Star Wars really. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on February 28, 2007, 09:26 AM
Jesse..I thought you were big into those WWII toys.   ???
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2007, 04:40 PM
I am, but it's one board and I rarely ever speak.  It's also the only "other" thing I collect, and a lot of that has to do with it being in scale with SW actually.  If it didn't have a 1:18 market I'd be out of that in a heartbeat...  I talk more about it here actually in the other toys section.  Partly because it's easier, partly because of who I'm talking to at the other board some days.  Tough to explain without examples.

I love the military toys but I just tend to avoid discussion about them...  There's no solid community(ies) for them like Star Wars has.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on February 28, 2007, 05:23 PM
Rather than form and host an entirely new forum at their new site of course. 

They could always just go to www.toytraderz.com.  :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on March 1, 2007, 02:27 AM
I was wondering if ToyTraderz.com had anything to do with them starting it up.  Or to compete with Adam Pawlus over at 16bit.com maybe?

There are a lot of ther sites out there covering the same stuff but I'm guessing they figure they might have a built-in audience with the large community already in place at RS.  Besides, SW is going to wind down eventually, this gives Myatt and Curto another outlet.

By the way, Myatt appears to be the registered owner of the cooltoyreview.com domain but it's hosted with the RS.com sites because it's using the same DNS servers.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 1, 2007, 02:46 AM
***looks up at Eric going way over his head***  ;D

In other news related to that site, JoshEEE has his hands full tonight, haha.  Threads like that are why I just couldn't continue.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 1, 2007, 03:48 PM
You gotta love those evenings (or in this case days too).  Not a moderator in site, so flaming is allowed to continue indefinitely.

I actually enjoyed the back and forth, but was glad to see it at least one of the threads finally locked up this morning.  Other one still goes on strong.  I think they need more than one or two semi-active moderators over there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 1, 2007, 04:08 PM
I actually enjoyed the back and forth, but was glad to see it at least one of the threads finally locked up this morning.  Other one still goes on strong.  I think they need more than one or two semi-active moderators over there.

Also moderators who follow the fourm rules as The will (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ggbusts&Number=2416684&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1). 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on March 7, 2007, 11:53 PM
I was wondering if ToyTraderz.com had anything to do with them starting it up.  Or to compete with Adam Pawlus over at 16bit.com maybe?

Could have, but it's hard to say.  I got on RS in April asking for help building our database, so that could have got the wheels turning.  We then made our official "opening" announcement in October, but the faithful admin had my thread closed down.  Once I heard of CTR I looked it up and saw the domain was registered in August, but again it's hard to say when they might have started working on it.

I find it kind of funny, really.  So many people have talked for ages about wanting a site that allows them to discuss non-SW vintage lines.  So we put our site up and no one even blinks (partially because the powers that be had our link removed ASAP).  Dave announces the CTR forum and everyone's like "Wow, what a great idea!"  Knobs.  :) 

John
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on March 7, 2007, 11:55 PM
Dave announces the CTR forum and everyone's like "Wow, what a great idea!"  Knobs.  :) 

Who is Dave?

~ S Wayne
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on March 8, 2007, 01:19 AM
I need to get to ToyTraderz more often, I've been slacking.  Just seems like after I get done doing updates, reading RS, JD and the GI Joe boards I'm on toy overload.  I've only written one article for CreatureCantina.com in the last 6 months.

But, you're right about the forum on RS.  Suddenly it's a huge thing when there are plenty of other sites out there already like TNI, Super Toy Archive, action-figure.com, ToyTraderz and 16bit.com.  Most of them are about new lines and that's one thing that makes TT unique.  You guys are covering vintage lines as well. 

It just points out that a lot of the modern guys on RS are either strictly SW fans or, for some reason, they can't break out of the RS.com community.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on March 15, 2007, 10:04 PM
LOL! (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2455103&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2455103)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on March 15, 2007, 10:30 PM
You've got to be ******* kidding me .....
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 15, 2007, 10:38 PM
You've got to be ******* kidding me .....

Yes, it's very out-of-character for P-Dubs to act like an ******* over such a minor thing.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on March 15, 2007, 10:51 PM
I'd do it (if I could still post there) out of complete spite.

(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/sony_pictures_home/seinfeld___seasons_5___6_giftset/jerry_seinfeld/seinfeld.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 15, 2007, 10:53 PM
PW is an amateur.  The next person who thinks about posting in all caps is taking a month off here.   >:(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on March 15, 2007, 11:13 PM
That's completely ridiculous.  He's probably mad at all the bad mouthing GG is taking on his forums for their sketchy customer service and lack of response over the (potential) Obi-Wan statue fiasco brewing.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: David on March 15, 2007, 11:49 PM
Heh! That ******** was enough to make me, 'LOL' out loud!

(http://www.cfhf.net/lyrics/images/monk.jpg)

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 16, 2007, 12:59 AM
What I thought was funnier was the lack of respect.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 16, 2007, 01:11 AM
What I thought was funnier was the lack of respect.

That was the part that really shocked me.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on March 16, 2007, 01:21 AM
C'mon guys, get a life and move along.

Kevin
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 16, 2007, 01:32 AM
Oi...

That's what this thread was all about.  Not bitching about kids or other silly ****.  It's all about that type of thing that went on routinely. 

Instead of bitching about Caps titles, he really ought to just put the clamps down on douchebaggery in general.  They've got a LOT of that going on in every section of their forums.  Caps locked titles are the last thing they should be this concerned about as far as "quality" on their forums.

I dunno what sparked that, but it's worth a laugh regardless.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 16, 2007, 09:44 AM
Quote from: DARTHBORAT
People seem to be afraid to say anything? Philip seems like a very reasonable man, as I doubt he is going to be upset over someone voicing their opinion in a respectful manor. 

Clearly DARTHBORAT (who's all caps name alone could get him banned) hasn't been paying a lot of attention over the last year or two.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 16, 2007, 10:52 AM
Heck PW should just send DARTHBORAT his suspension email already, since it looks like he is the only one in the GG thread to post in all caps for the past few pages.  It's funny to see people complain about how many threads there are or All Caps but no one seems to care about the name calling/bickering that goes on all the time.  Just another stupid rule over at scum. 
Title: RE: EVERYTHING REBELSCUM!!!!
Post by: Jesse James on March 16, 2007, 07:20 PM
That was always my big gripe, actually... 

In a nutshell, they (they being mostly Philip with occassional an interjection from someone else who doesn't spend much time on their own forum but are on staff) would come down on individuals for any myriad of senseless things...  Simple criticism of something on the site, or an action the site took (spam emailing, moderator abuse of power, etc.), and other silly things.  Things that really, in the grand scheme, were just "old time" members there trying to keep the place fun and free of the current state that forum is in...

All the while, name calling was ALWAYS ignored once Scum stole the BHC from Sullenger...  It went on rampantly, there was no check on members who abused the rules.  Flaming, trolling...  Hell, post padding was made an art form by one of their moderators and a couple of their past fired moderators, and they still all do it to this day...  All the true rule infractions at the site get overlooked, but Philip's really (and comically) fast to run in and say that an all caps title is worth a week's suspension... 

What can you say to that, honestly? 

Scalping's rampant there, and unchecked anymore.  The "kiddies" are all too welcomed there.  Flaming is a routine in every thread it seems, as nobody's taught to respect others through punishment (or even a threat of it).  And most of the time, the inmates run the assylum as they please, at least to my eyes that's how it is with some of the moderating staff (those who actually are there participating anyway).

I don't think much about them anymore...  don't visit them near as much as I did a year ago, and that was down a lot from the year prior.  All I know is it's a sad state that every good member there has 10 dickholes to accompany him, and it really makes for a blight of a community.  Philip's flip out about something so incredibly petty though just rekindled why that place is such a shambles to me I guess.  There's so many other problems to take action on, and he's mad about all caps thread titles.  I guess we all have a difference of opinion on our priorities.  :-\
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 16, 2007, 08:32 PM
Quote
douchebaggery

That word only has 4 syllables, but I think it deserves far more.

DOUCHEEBAGEREIA?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: AndyG on March 16, 2007, 08:41 PM
Quote
douchebaggery

That word only has 4 syllables, but I think it deserves far more.

DOUCHEEBAGEREIA?

DOUCHEBAGERAZIONE?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 16, 2007, 09:32 PM
PW is an amateur.  The next person who thinks about posting in all caps is taking a month off here.   >:(

Anything less than lifetime banishment would be a travesty of justice.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 16, 2007, 10:10 PM
I didn't even know about the whole caps rule thing until I checked this thread. Another interesting non-event over at scum is no LJ, not even in the user listing. I wonder if the two events are linked?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 17, 2007, 02:17 AM
I thought LJ was an exclamation point abuser? I guess that goes to show you that excessive punctuation is a gateway drug.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 17, 2007, 03:00 AM
Quote
I guess that goes to show you that excessive punctuation is a gateway drug.


I couldn't help but laugh at this...  a lot.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 17, 2007, 07:44 AM
Hey I may use excessive punctuation, but at least I didn't narc on any of the jd'ers back when the mass bannings occurred!! Hell Jesse, you remember, I came by and told you who was just looking for you guys and giving you up over at the scum. I mean it's one thing to have  Wise and his admin henchmen look for you, but it's another for a lil mod to purposely search out jd staff!! I didn't agree with it then, don't agree with it now. I have my faults, but excessive punctuation is nothing to some of the things others have done!

Oh and I forgot, I am not the one that was singled out for all caps!! My shtick is punctuation, not all caps! :P I don't know who that was!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 17, 2007, 08:47 AM
So what did you do?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on March 17, 2007, 12:24 PM
Hey I may use excessive punctuation, but at least I didn't narc on any of the jd'ers back when the mass bannings occurred!! Hell Jesse, you remember, I came by and told you who was just looking for you guys and giving you up over at the scum.

Wow.. Somehow I find this ironic!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 17, 2007, 01:13 PM
Hey I may use excessive punctuation, but at least I didn't narc on any of the jd'ers back when the mass bannings occurred!! Hell Jesse, you remember, I came by and told you who was just looking for you guys and giving you up over at the scum. I mean it's one thing to have  Wise and his admin henchmen look for you, but it's another for a lil mod to purposely search out jd staff!! I didn't agree with it then, don't agree with it now. I have my faults, but excessive punctuation is nothing to some of the things others have done!

Oh and I forgot, I am not the one that was singled out for all caps!! My shtick is punctuation, not all caps! :P I don't know who that was!!


Why are you still here?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 18, 2007, 12:01 AM
Does anyone want to fill me in on what Lady Jaye is talking about?  RS mods narking out JD staff for something?  When the hell did this happen?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 18, 2007, 01:07 AM
And you thought the all caps threat was f------ funny.  The art of cursing properly (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2458234&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2458234)

Did I count my dashes correctly?  I hope so.   ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on March 18, 2007, 01:37 AM
Personally, I find there to be a bit of an unhealthy fascination with RS.  And with that I heed my own advice with regard to that site and just "Move along, move along".

The honest truth is that RS as a whole has become the biggest collecting website of them all.  That's just fact.  They get more traffic than any of the other collecting sites.  And with that traffic comes all of the punters, noobs and rejects.  It has just gotten to the point where those people have come to vastly outnumber the old school collectors who have been a part of the online collecting community for years and have made something of a mark.  The admins and mods have responded to this influx of morons by ruling with more of an iron hand.  Is that cool?  Not at all.  Especially for the people who were contributing worthwhile posts to the forum and feel that they've been forced out.  And in other cases, people who got vocal got forced out.  It is Phillip's ball and he's gonna say that you can't play anymore if he doesn't like you.  Is it petty?  Yes.  Do you want to deal with someone like that?  Probably not.

But do you really want to see a forum that is just out of hand?  Check out The Official Site's (http://www.starwars.com/) message board dedicated to Collecting (http://forums.starwars.com/forum.jspa?forumID=23).  Talk about a train wreck!  It's very user unfriendly and that's coming from Lucasfilm themselves, along with their volunteer mods.  So when it comes to forums, bigger is not necessarily better.  A smaller, niche community where most of the people know one another and RESPECT one another is much more attractive.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on March 18, 2007, 04:45 AM
And you thought the all caps threat was f------ funny.  The art of cursing properly (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2458234&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2458234)

So who's going to be the first to reply to Amir with "F--k that sh-t!"? ;)

EDIT - Nevermind, just noticed he posted it as a locked topic.

Oh, and DARTHBORAT has only been reg'd since Dec 19, 2006.  Of course, in the 90 day since then he has 1600 posts.  Putting him on ignore really speeds the time to read GG threads.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 18, 2007, 10:03 AM
Does anyone want to fill me in on what Lady Jaye is talking about?  RS mods narcing out JD staff for something?  When the hell did this happen?

Actually no one but Jesse James should know about this, since when I told him, I was still a mod over there!! In a nutshell, a certain mod was actively looking out for jd staff members and sending e-mails to Wise and the admins, telling them who to ban. One actually said, oop you missed one.

I never agreed with the action that took place, the mass banning of JD staff members over there! It was a very petty thing to do. So I sent Jesse a pm telling him about it! I told him not to say anything since at the time I was still a mod, just giving him a heads up as to who it was that was targeting all the JD staff members.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 18, 2007, 10:58 AM
Hate to burst your bubble, but several of us knew the details of the JD witch-hunt while it was pretty much on-going. And for the record, it was not limited to our staff, as several of the folks in our community were also hassled about their affiliation with us.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on March 18, 2007, 11:30 AM
Does anyone want to fill me in on what Lady Jaye is talking about?  RS mods narcing out JD staff for something?  When the hell did this happen?

Actually no one but Jesse James should know about this, since when I told him, I was still a mod over there!! In a nutshell, a certain mod was actively looking out for jd staff members and sending e-mails to Wise and the admins, telling them who to ban. One actually said, oop you missed one.

I never agreed with the action that took place, the mass banning of JD staff members over there! It was a very petty thing to do. So I sent Jesse a pm telling him about it! I told him not to say anything since at the time I was still a mod, just giving him a heads up as to who it was that was targeting all the JD staff members.

You were a mod, then you weren't, then you were again and now you're not (again).  What happened?  I'm mostly asking about the recent time, but if you don't want to limit your comments I'm interested.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 18, 2007, 11:51 AM
New Rebelscum policy.

Quote
We have recently had an increase in Profanity and the Circumventing of Rebelscum's language filter in many posts in many threads.

Please read the following from Rebelscums General Forum Rules.


Profanity: We ask that you respect the fact that this is an all-ages board, and use no words stronger than what may be found in the movies themselves. The board comes equipped with a broad-based profanity filter. The traditional “dirty words” will be automatically filtered (their letters will appear as asterisks in your post) even when the context does not absolutely demand it. Likewise, no profane, suggestive or obscene images are allowed.

Even though we would rather members find a more articulate way to express themselves, members may use partially censored words. Like those found in many reputable magazines, replacing bad language with 'f---', 's---', et al will be allowed. The only way it is allowed though, is by typing the first letter of the word followed by the appropriate number of dashes, though counting is up to the member.

The use of other letters or symbols to circumvent the language filter ($, @, !...) is strongly prohibited and will be not be tolerated. First offenses can give the poster an automatic one-week suspension of their posting privileges. Subsequent offenses will be dealt with more severely, and can include permanent banning.

Just a few examples so everyone is clear, if you wish you may spell a censored word out like so:
F---
S---
but you are not allowed to spell it like so:
F--k
Sh-t
and of course misspelling a word (using other letters or symbols to circumvent the language filter) is strongly prohibited as stated above.

Please consider this as a general warning for all. Breaking this rule will result in an automatic one-week suspension of your posting privileges. Thank you.

Amir K.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 18, 2007, 12:17 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but several of us knew the details of the JD witch-hunt while it was pretty much on-going.

Well if you want to continue with the snide remarks, fine. But I was talking about one person specifically, and what I was privy to and his actions, nothing else.

You were a mod, then you weren't, then you were again and now you're not (again).  What happened?  I'm mostly asking about the recent time, but if you don't want to limit your comments I'm interested.

Long story short, I crossed paths with Jeremy. He took away my mod status in Wuhers and told me not to go in there for a week or so. I was still a mod over in the ROTS section. But of course, since he already had taken my mod status away in Wuhers, I felt that was "punishment" enough, so I went into Wuhers and posted. Of course a week or so later Jeremy is offended that I did not follow his command, so I was stripped of my mod duties completely! That's it in a nutshell.

And to answer Captain Alex's question, the reason I'm not over there is because I was suspended by GNTfor circuventing the profanity filters like 2 weeks before!! I typed out a$$, so that got me a week's suspension. I haven't gone back since. Of course you telling us that my name isn't even in the user list is puzzling. I asked another former mod if he ever came across that, cause I surely didn't! In fact I still can find some of Matt's old aliases??? So he either deleted my account, or it's a new feature??
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on March 18, 2007, 02:29 PM
Of course you telling us that my name isn't even in the user list is puzzling. I asked another former mod if he ever came across that, cause I surely didn't! In fact I still can find some of Matt's old aliases??? So he either deleted my account, or it's a new feature??

I saw that your name wasn't in the user list, but I found an old thread that you'd posted in.  Your name was still there and when I clicked it, it went to your account.  If their forum is anything like mine they won't actually delete accounts, because doing so will cause all posts by that user to disappear completely as well.  They'll still be there in the database, but there won't be a parent ID to link them up to.

John
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nathan on March 18, 2007, 04:20 PM
But do you really want to see a forum that is just out of hand?  Check out The Official Site's (http://www.starwars.com/) message board dedicated to Collecting (http://forums.starwars.com/forum.jspa?forumID=23).  Talk about a train wreck!  It's very user unfriendly and that's coming from Lucasfilm themselves, along with their volunteer mods.  So when it comes to forums, bigger is not necessarily better.  A smaller, niche community where most of the people know one another and RESPECT one another is much more attractive.

Yeah, I jumped ship from their Collecting section shortly after I found JD.

All the n00bs, rejects, trolls, speculators, etc. tend to flock there because it's the official site. And there is a large population of honest n00bs who don't mean any harm, but who really don't know the first thing about SW collecting, and I (rather selfishly) got bored of answering the same questions over and over and over.

Their mods really do try--and they're nothing like the jackasses the RS mods seem to be--but they have several million registered members and it's hard to keep a handle on that. Also, for some reason their Collecting forum has always been under-moderated in comparison to their other sections; when I was there, only one mod frequented it.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Artoo on March 18, 2007, 11:01 PM
Hey Jaye, when did that happen? I finally want to know why I was banned. (It's either that or me flaming a scalper who threatened us Jax guys threw PMs)
Title: RE: EVERYTHING REBELSCUM
Post by: Jesse James on March 19, 2007, 12:53 AM
Nothing I forgot Lady Jaye, I remember you letting me know, but suffice it to say we weren't ignorant that Scott's old buddy was the lead hunter in the midst of all that mess a while back.  We'd already discussed him before you'd let me know.  We were having a good laugh about it all at the time, but still were irked considering the time guys like JediMAC had put in at the site there making it better through solid trading and stuff.

On the issue of the swearing policy I personally agree with it...

Their rule is to swear only as far as the film's went, if I recall that right, which is fine.  That rule makes sense...  People have been circumventing their language filter for years just for ***** and giggles.  They know the word they're going to use will show as *'s and so they do what's stated in that new rule.  That one makes sense to me.

The caps in a thread title though...  That's just going off the deep end.  I'd heard it pertaining to some kind of conspiracy against GG on the site and things, but I don't know what that was all about since I'm not privy to what goes on there generally.  I just know that whole caps thread title rule thing is really funny to me.  It seemed like Philip was having a bad day, and freaked.  I could be wrong though. 

I agree though, bigger isn't always better...  Truer words have never been spoken when you're talking about forums.  Traffic's good of course, but it ultimately ruins the community from within I believe.  That's usually the case it seems, at least.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 19, 2007, 02:23 AM
Crossed paths with Jeremy? He seemed like a well-balanced admin when I was at RS, but it's been 2 years since I had my account deleted there and I could be wrong. It was either him or Dustin who was closing and deleting all my Forum Feedback threads, I forget now. Oh well, I like it here much better and never plan on going back over to RS.



Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 19, 2007, 08:26 AM
P.S.     ass

I'm gonna get you for that... son.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 19, 2007, 09:41 AM
The only thing that keeps me from not posting there anymore (or baiting for a ban) is the classifieds.  Now that I'm done selling all my modern stuff and the few more things I need for my vintage collection will eventually pop up on eBay, it's probably time to quietly retire from there.

I've been bitching for weeks since I started posting there again about the tree-stump personality of 99% of the members there.  And it's not just noobs and kids either.  People who have been registered for months and years still post the same old garbage threads about movies and TV shows over and over in the Wuher's section.

The problem that PW and the other mods are running into is that they've banned everybody with personality and intelligence, which they seem to see as some sort of threat.  I can definitely see why mods like GNT and Tommy_T would, considering the wildly stimulating caliber of their posts.  But now they're seriously reaping the problems involved with banning interesting members in favor of the dullards they might have insulted (and rightfully so).

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on March 19, 2007, 09:45 AM
The problem that PW and the other mods are running into is that they've banned everybody with personality and intelligence...

HEY!  I haven't been banned...   :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on March 19, 2007, 09:50 AM
The problem that PW and the other mods are running into is that they've banned everybody with personality and intelligence...

HEY!  I haven't been banned...   :P

Probably because Creature Cantina (http://www.creaturecantina.com/) sucks!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 19, 2007, 03:53 PM
The problem that PW and the other mods are running into is that they've banned everybody with personality and intelligence...

HEY!  I haven't been banned...   :P

Neither have I.  Come to think of it, neither has Dressel, Norga Rotem, etc.  I smell vast right wing conspiracy here  >:(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on March 19, 2007, 04:20 PM
I'm not banned from there, but was at one time for about an hour when all the bannings began.  They didn't like that I promoted JD over there and Dustin thought I was a staff member here. 

They still have a good group of people in their customizing sections though.  Some turds of course because of their level of traffic, but I still enjoy the custom boards there as a whole.

 :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 19, 2007, 07:59 PM
The problem that PW and the other mods are running into is that they've banned everybody with personality and intelligence...

HEY!  I haven't been banned...   :P

Neither have I.  Come to think of it, neither has Dressel, Norga Rotem, etc.  I smell vast right wing conspiracy here  >:(

Not quite.  I'm neither a right winger nor am I "dull" and I'm still kicking around over there. ;)

Truth is, while many of the most interesting characters on that site have outgrown it and left, either for this place...or for GH....I'm not sure that really affected the site.  It affected the community when good people left it, but the site still has the same strengths and weaknesses it's always had.  The only difference is the people that made it what it was so many years ago have now been replaced by kids who never got to experience those times.  Unfortunatley for them, they don't realize it used to be a haven from scalpers and a community where people actually cared about each other's opinions (rather than just glossing over dozens of pages to post their own 2 cents).

It's incredibly fast moving now, but I'm not sure how much of that traffic is actual decent conversation.  A lot of it is "Me too" kind of stuff.  For example...every time a Sideshow toy goes on sale at RS, we have 40 page threads of people saying "Got mine, that was easy".  No one's actually talking to each other in those threads, and there are so many.

Where are the heated debates about figures?  Brown coat Han anyone?  ;D
They're still there...but they move so fast and change faces so much, they're hard to keep up with.

So, was there ever really a "Golden Age"?  I think RS is like SNL.  People talk about it like it used to be so much better, but the fact is....because it's the biggest collecting site out there, it's pretty much always been plagued with the same problems.  It's also always had the same great things going for it. I may look fondly back on the "old days", but I think it's still good now.

They've improved the quality of the Collector's engine, they have more photos of new stuff than ever, they have more con coverage than any other site out there....and now they're covering other toy lines too.  Sure, not all those ideas are original, but what on the internet IS these days?

On the bad side, they still have the noobs, the trolls and all those other things that a big site like that attracts. It seems the scalpers are making a comeback because there's a lack of good moderation right now.   I believe all these problems are simply because they don't have the one thing they need:  More mods.  Good ones too, not just cherry picking the people with the highest post counts.  The reason they don't have more moderators is because the staff is too disconnected from the community to be picking out the members that would be good candidates.

JD has great mods.  If traffic jumped to RS levels, I'd like to believe this place would add volunteer moderators to keep up with it out of the huge stable of cool people here.  That's the one thing RS has never really done....and that's why they continually have the same problems.

I still love em though. ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 20, 2007, 12:17 AM
Truth is, while many of the most interesting characters on that site have outgrown it and left, either for this place...or for GH....I'm not sure that really affected the site.  It affected the community when good people left it, but the site still has the same strengths and weaknesses it's always had.  The only difference is the people that made it what it was so many years ago have now been replaced by kids who never got to experience those times.  Unfortunatley for them, they don't realize it used to be a haven from scalpers and a community where people actually cared about each other's opinions (rather than just glossing over dozens of pages to post their own 2 cents).

It's incredibly fast moving now, but I'm not sure how much of that traffic is actual decent conversation.  A lot of it is "Me too" kind of stuff.  For example...every time a Sideshow toy goes on sale at RS, we have 40 page threads of people saying "Got mine, that was easy".  No one's actually talking to each other in those threads, and there are so many.


Dude...it amazes me that you can sum up almost every reason why the site has gone to hell, and not admit that the site has gone to hell.   ::)

I don't go over there anymore, and hearing what has happened to those boards in the past two years or so is a damn shame.  I loved posting on those boards back when they were still the Bounty Hunter's Collective, and stayed on after the "merge", but when all that crap happened to the JD staff, and the deleting posts that were critical of what was going on over there...hell, all that seems tame in comparison to all the scalping and flame wars that plague the place because the "staff" does not care as long as traffice goes to that site.

BTW, I think the Carded vs Loose debate was just as heated (if not more so) than the brown vs blue coat on Hoth Han debate.  :D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on March 20, 2007, 12:36 AM
Now our Con coverage is sub par too.

It's dumb stuff like this that makes me want to finally get out of this dead hobby.

L.O.L.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 20, 2007, 01:15 AM
P.S.     ass

I'm gonna get you for that... son.

What? Don't play me, I know there's nothing but love between us.

EDIT: Please don't delete me. :-*
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 20, 2007, 01:18 AM
Dude...it amazes me that you can sum up almost every reason why the site has gone to hell, and not admit that the site has gone to hell.   ::)

Yes, JoshEEE is playing Devil's advocate about something.

Shocking.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on March 20, 2007, 09:22 AM
But only in Wuher's Cantina.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2007, 11:43 AM
Dude...it amazes me that you can sum up almost every reason why the site has gone to hell, and not admit that the site has gone to hell.   ::)

Yes, JoshEEE is playing Devil's advocate about something.

Shocking.


What can I say?  I like RS.  It's still my favorite collecting site.   When I see fellow collectors harshing on it, I usually throw the 2 cents in.



Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 20, 2007, 12:02 PM
What can I say?  I like RS.  It's still my favorite collecting site.   When I see fellow collectors harshing on it, I usually throw the 2 cents in.

Right on, but you gotta admit--it's not exactly uncommon for you to be the contrarian on something.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 20, 2007, 01:04 PM
Now our Con coverage is sub par too.

It's dumb stuff like this that makes me want to finally get out of this dead hobby.

L.O.L.

Who said that?  I thought your toy fair coverage was great.  (Of course, it would've been better if you sent me   ;D )
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on March 20, 2007, 01:06 PM
Now our Con coverage is sub par too.

It's dumb stuff like this that makes me want to finally get out of this dead hobby.

L.O.L.

Who said that?  I thought your toy fair coverage was great.  (Of course, it would've been better if you sent me   ;D )

They've improved the quality of the Collector's engine, they have more photos of new stuff than ever, they have more con coverage than any other site out there....and now they're covering other toy lines too.  Sure, not all those ideas are original, but what on the internet IS these days?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 20, 2007, 01:20 PM
What can I say?  I like RS.  It's still my favorite collecting site.   When I see fellow collectors harshing on it, I usually throw the 2 cents in. 


As far as aesthetics and coverage and features, RS is an OK site.  But my favorite aspect of collecting is talking with other collectors, and not necessarily only about Star Wars.  And by talking, I don't mean (like you mentioned) page after page of bull**** three-word responses.  You won't find much of that in the forums over there, and coupled with the condescending attitude of the admin and ineptitude of the mods, the social aspect of the hobby is way below subpar at RS.  My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on March 20, 2007, 02:01 PM
RS is like Wal-Mart, they have everything (more than you need) and ****** customer service.  JD is the small mom and pop shop who has only what you need with quality service.

As with WM, you can't find what you need at RS because it's too damn big and overcrowded with mostly idiots, outside of the dairy (vintage) section.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2007, 04:03 PM
What can I say?  I like RS.  It's still my favorite collecting site.   When I see fellow collectors harshing on it, I usually throw the 2 cents in.

Right on, but you gotta admit--it's not exactly uncommon for you to be the contrarian on something.

No, I'm often on the other side of the "norm".  I realize that over here at JD, it's "the norm" to despise RS.  People trash it, call it awful, they've been saying it's "gone to hell" for years now.  Even so, I still like the place and though it's a controversial opinion around here, I still think it's the best collecting site I've ever been to.  Doesn't mean this place SUCKS...it just means I like that place better.

Now our Con coverage is sub par too.

It's dumb stuff like this that makes me want to finally get out of this dead hobby.

L.O.L.


Oh for God's sake.  ::)  Look, lately...RS has the best con coverage. I recognize that's because they have the biggest bankroll and (because of Official Pix and their booth) early access to the con that other sites just can't get.  In the past, when RS was less "connected", other sites had much better coverage.  I remember a Comic Con where JD was neck and neck with RS (and even surpassed it in many areas).  These days, they get in first and so they get the pictures up before anyone else.

Does that mean JD's coverage sucks?  No.  You guys ask the interesting questions at panels (and print the responses here).  The photos taken for this site are great too. I always check this place whenever there's a con that I'm not attending. I like reading the reviews and opinions, which are often a lot more personal than RS. I wouldn't do that if the coverage "sucked".


RS is like Wal-Mart, they have everything (more than you need) and ****** customer service.  JD is the small mom and pop shop who has only what you need with quality service.

As with WM, you can't find what you need at RS because it's too damn big and overcrowded with mostly idiots, outside of the dairy (vintage) section.



Ok, so let's go with that analogy. RS is Wal Mart. And where is the cheapest place to get a bunch of Star Wars figures?  Wal Mart.  Now, if I'm not shopping and all I want to do is go have a talk with the employees about collecting...I'm not going to Wal Mart. I'm going to the corner comic shop.  They have the guys that know stuff and they're happy to see you when you walk in the door.  A lot of times I don't find the stuff I need there, but I have a good time when I visit.

I recognize Wal Mart has it's flaws, but it's still a better resource for a collector than the little corner shop that can't match the corporate behemoth because it simply doesn't have enough customers.  The bottom line is I'm more of a "shopper" than anything else, so Wal Mart is probably is best for me.

Analogies aside...

RS classifieds are the most populated on the web. The local "Look what I found" section has helped me meet more local collectors than even my 501st Garrison has.  Considering our Garrison is obviously filled with fans, that's impressive. In the other sections, the sheer number of people that are around also helps to build my collection.  People are always linking auctions or talking about selling their stuff and I end up buying it.   These are areas that this site (and most of the others out there) simply can't match.  That's not due to quality, it's just due to traffic.     And yes, I participate in the community there, only because it's fast moving and fun sometimes. 

All those things are a fair trade-off for having to deal with dumbshits, trolls and noobs. 

I visit this place when I want to read opinions, news, or see photos I can't see other places.  I like the people here, and every once in awhile I place ads here too.  When I go to cons, JD members are the ones I always see and the first to arrange hangouts.  I've never felt the need to stop going to RS in order to be friends with you guys, and that's why I think this place is cool.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 20, 2007, 04:27 PM
The phrase "quantity over quality" comes to mind. . .
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2007, 06:08 PM
The phrase "quantity over quality" comes to mind. . .

Rebelscum has all the same quality the other sites have.  Go compare the photo archives to any other site's collection of pictures.  Finding info and pictures on just about any collectible out there is easy at RS.  I've already mentioned the con coverage....the classifieds, the Local sections....so what else does a Star Wars forum need to be considered "quality"?

Everyone's so judgemental about the palce because what.....there are too many people there?

That's a dumb reason to hate it.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 20, 2007, 06:21 PM
I do like RS's photo section.  Not that the quality of the images are any better, but they had a good setup for finding particular figures.  I have not checked it out in a while, so I don't know if they've changed it at all.

But the issues I have with RS lie directly with the forums and the management of them (or lack thereof).

You talk about the "Look what I found Section", they may have the quantity, but hell, the QUALITY is right here...you have to be a registered user to view them, keeping them virtually, scalper free.  Unlike RS where anyone can troll those threads.

The trading and Classified section over there?  I've never been much of a trader, or use the classifieds in any forum, but I've heard a lot of stories about people scalping or reneging on deals over there as compared to over here.  Again, that's because there are so many people over there and some (not all) are there to take advantage of less knowledgeable people...again due to the quantity of people over there.

Saying that RS's quality has not suffered do to the Quantity of traffic they get is beyond naive in my opinion.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 20, 2007, 06:42 PM
Everyone's so judgemental about the palce because what.....there are too many people there?

Yes, that's the only reason, Josh.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 20, 2007, 06:54 PM
The trading and Classified section over there?  I've never been much of a trader, or use the classifieds in any forum, but I've heard a lot of stories about people scalping or reneging on deals over there as compared to over here.  Again, that's because there are so many people over there and some (not all) are there to take advantage of less knowledgeable people...again due to the quantity of people over there.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't agree with JoshEEE in principle about the classifieds, because if you want to sell something on any website, that's where you'll get to the largest audience, but you bring up a good point.  Every time I list something for sale, I get a hailstorm of PMs, which I'm pretty good about responding too right away.  In the end, only about half of the people who PM me with interest I never hear from again, and it's only after I bug them that they finally respond and say, "Sorry, I'm not interested."  This is after several days have elapsed and I've missed out on other people who were potentially interested.

A community where people actually have some concept of etiquette would be nice.  Unfortunately RS's forums are not that, and haven't been that way in a long time.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on March 20, 2007, 06:56 PM
I usually stay out of these debates but this comment left me scratching my head:

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In the other sections, the sheer number of people that are around also helps to build my collection.  People are always linking auctions or talking about selling their stuff and I end up buying it.   These are areas that this site (and most of the others out there) simply can't match.  That's not due to quality, it's just due to traffic.

I don't fully understand how this makes RS better, maybe it's the way you worded everything. So what if there are people there linking to eBay auctions? People do that here, on GH, and on various other toy forums I visit. Hell, if it weren't for people here linking to eBay auctions, some of our forum members wouldn't have been able to buy the VTSC Scouts, 30AC Tin Blue Clone, etc. from that dude in China. That's helping people to build their collections, and certainly isn't a RS exclusive.

And about the collection selling... that makes no sense to me at all. Again, maybe it's the way it's worded, but your post makes it sound like RS is the only site that allows people to sell stuff from their own collection. I've browsed many a thread here with people selling items from their collections. I've even bought some stuff, and I know that there are people involved in deals here every day. Same goes for all the other toy forums I frequent, so I beg to differ when you claim that other toy forums can't compete with RS when it comes to "building your collection."

And another thing, Josh, you seem to think that EVERYONE here has a grudge against RS. That isn't true. I don't, and I'm sure there are others here who don't. But the way you come over here and only really post when we begin discussing RS issues makes me think that YOU have a grudge against JD.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2007, 08:00 PM

You talk about the "Look what I found Section", they may have the quantity, but hell, the QUALITY is right here...you have to be a registered user to view them, keeping them virtually, scalper free.  Unlike RS where anyone can troll those threads.


The privacy feature is awesome, but "Look what I found" forums only work if people post to it.  I could never get anyone interested in migrating over here on a permanent basis (and man did I try).  Quantity mattered more than "quality" in this case....and that's why I stick with RS for that feature.



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The trading and Classified section over there?  I've never been much of a trader, or use the classifieds in any forum, but I've heard a lot of stories about people scalping or reneging on deals over there as compared to over here.  Again, that's because there are so many people over there and some (not all) are there to take advantage of less knowledgeable people...again due to the quantity of people over there.

Same thing happens on Ebay.  Gotta be careful who you deal with, watch for feedback and only trade with people with good reputations. If they have no rep, make the new guys ship first, helps them build a rep.  That's what I do.  Bottom line is, I can post the same ad here as I do there....and 9 times out 10, I'm going to get my buyer/seller/trader there.  Quantity is what makes it quality. It's just a fact.

Now...am I saying the trading COMMUNITY over there is better?  Of course not. Some of the people I've dealt with the most over the years reside right here at JD (or hold dual memberships).  But I met em all on RS.


I usually stay out of these debates but this comment left me scratching my head:

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Again, maybe it's the way it's worded, but your post makes it sound like RS is the only site that allows people to sell stuff from their own collection.

Yeah, it must be how I worded it because that wasn't even close to my point. I wasn't saying you can't do those things on other forums (of course you can), I was saying MORE people do them on RS....and when you're a buyer looking for something, MORE options are always better than less. I can't think of any exception to that rule, can you?  Sure, it's always better to trade with people you know if you can....but when I'm shopping, I want a lot of options. If I place a want ad, I like that I get a ton of offers.  You just don't get that on the smaller sites.


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And another thing, Josh, you seem to think that EVERYONE here has a grudge against RS. That isn't true. I don't, and I'm sure there are others here who don't. But the way you come over here and only really post when we begin discussing RS issues makes me think that YOU have a grudge against JD.

I think the majority of regular members here have been very vocal about how much they hate Rebelscum. There are very few exceptions, and I'm one of them.  I don't have a "grudge" against JD, but I think every time people go on the rampage about how much the place sucks, how it's gone to hell and how it's completely lame....I think it's important to throw in the other perspective.  Rebelscum has some obvious problems, almost exclusively related to the fact that they have not nearly a staff to handle their membership, but other than that it's a great resource for collectors.



Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on March 20, 2007, 09:06 PM
I can recall a time when I relished bashing Phillip Wise and his netly dominions on a regular basis. I can also remember going there during certain points of 2004 with the express purpose of trolling, and committing douchebaggery (a policy which, actually, was a dismal failure as I recall it). However, eventually it just became such a tired shtick and subject that I just became callous to the goings-on there. I mean, RS is just a hyperinflated collecting site with a piss-poor and vindictive management. There are plenty of equally ridiculous sites which exist in vastness of Teh Internets. Directly involving yourself on its forums without concrete causation is an exercise in insanity, and serves only to expose you to absolute anarchy, swindlers, and the überannoying pseudo-intellectualism of Wuhers.

An analogy: RS is somewhat like Iraq- an overly populated and fracas prone republic located at the epicenter of a long decayed civilization* with an ineffective, thuggish government. So long as I have access to their photoarchives for reference, and so long as they don't somehow interfere with my collecting interests, I really couldn't careless what happens there. However, displaced members of the community and "expats" certainly have justification to hold a grudge, IMO.

*Said civilization, I guess, being the one which existed during the short era of union betwenn the BHC and RS forums in 2002. Its analog being that of the Caliphates... maybe? Yeah, a stretch, ich weiß.  :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on March 20, 2007, 10:00 PM
I was going to post a long, drawn out entry citing every statement made with the actual unbiased facts (I can do this because unlike "some" who have posted here, I see first-hand what really goes on behind the closed doors) but I then I realized it will fall on deaf ears to those who don't understand the grand scheme of said topic or the intricacies of this business (non-profit, of course).

So go ahead and believe that RS has pictures up first, always. Believe that sites don't steal each other's news. Continue on believing that back-stabbing, underhanded behaviors don't occur in this hobby and that everyone is a friendly competitor. Go forward believing that this large "traffic" is a blessing (without having market research on the demographics of said "traffic"). Just keep your head turned (or stuck in the sand for that matter). I simply ask that you don't come to my site and tell me how that site is some martyr. I'll give you that they have a lot of nice features, good pictures, nice coverage but if you knew any back story whatsoever it would make you sick. Or would it? I'm not so sure there are people that could care less and simply want the fastest, main stream thing and don't care how it is obtained, what was done for it and who runs it.

You have no idea.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 20, 2007, 11:01 PM
I was going to post a long, drawn out entry citing every statement made with the actual unbiased facts (I can do this because unlike "some" who have posted here, I see first-hand what really goes on behind the closed doors) but I then I realized it will fall on deaf ears to those who don't understand the grand scheme of said topic or the intricacies of this business (non-profit, of course).

It won't fall on deaf ears, I'm listening.




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So go ahead and believe that RS has pictures up first, always.

Never said always. I've seen JD scoop them several times.  In fact, I actually started watching for it after I made a similar claim awhile back and Matt (I think) asked me to keep my eye out. So yes, I do notice there are times when JD is first with the news and I know you guys take pride in that when you are.


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Believe that sites don't steal each other's news.

I never made any mention of that. I do think that all of the collecting sites post the same news within a short amount of time, so it makes sense to assume it originates some place and often does not get credited to where it originated from. That indeed sucks if it happens.

 
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Continue on believing that back-stabbing, underhanded behaviors don't occur in this hobby and that everyone is a friendly competitor.

I'm not sure I know what you're talking about here....

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Go forward believing that this large "traffic" is a blessing (without having market research on the demographics of said "traffic").


I never said it was a blessing, I just said it's the big reason that things like classifieds and store reports are more plentiful there.  I also pointed out that their being big is what brings all the noobs, trolls and assorted yahoos to that site.  They flock there because it's the big one....and I think RS's biggest problem is they don't have the staff to deal with it.  If they had the kind of staff you guys have, that would be a very different place.  It'd be a "best of both worlds" kind of situation.

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I simply ask that you don't come to my site and tell me how that site is some martyr.

I think people here throw a lot of crap RS's way, but I don't think that makes them a martyr.  They probably have no idea half of it is being said anyway.

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I'll give you that they have a lot of nice features, good pictures, nice coverage but if you knew any back story whatsoever it would make you sick. Or would it? I'm not so sure there are people that could care less and simply want the fastest, main stream thing and don't care how it is obtained, what was done for it and who runs it.

You have no idea.

I guess I can't comment on that one...because you're right, I know not what you speak of. 

There are some things I know....I know several years ago the staff there banned a lot of my friends here for expressing their distaste for the place (on this site, where it should have been ok to do so), and that sucked.   I also remember there were some people who were banned for nothing but being members here and that was also wrong.   Eventually, most folks who wanted to were allowed to return.  That seemed like a good start towards ending the drama.  I also know RS doesn't treat JD as "the name that shall not be mentioned" anymore.  In fact, I've seen them credit JD quite a few times.  I always thought that was a good sign that they were over all that stuff so many years ago.  It seems like this thread is the only place the drama still lives on.

However, if there's some seedy underbelly, or "site war" still raging behind the scenes, I guess I haven't heard about it.  Knowing that, I hope you won't hate me for not hating them.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on March 20, 2007, 11:12 PM
Oh me oh my, that vaunted traffic has brought RS to a standstill.  :o  I can't even get on their site.

As for their reporting?  I'm not that impressed.  There really have not been a lot of great stories that have broken there over the past couple of years.  Their best scoop in the past several months seems to have been a French Hasbro product list, and the only reason they seem to have gotten that is because it may have been posted by a user in their forums.  The really interesting news has been coming from the smaller sites and from Hasbro's Q&A sessions.  How many times are people linking to 4-inches.de for new images now?  Including RS?  And very often the new images they are presenting aren't even the product of real news gathering.  It's an image getting posted after someone saw it at an e-tailer site.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2007, 11:51 PM
I think the reason that some people perceive the majority of people here being RS haters is because of threads like this even exisiting.  This definitely isn't a "hail Rebelscum" thread afterall.

Do I like RS?  They're fine in my book and I enjoy going to their site.  Just like JD is, and other sites I frequent.  Every site has it's good points and I think they also have areas they can improve on.  And I don't care if RS, JD, GH, or some small European site that I've never heard of has news up first, as long as I find what I'm looking for.  I know a lot of the other sites would love to dance on Phil's grave, but I think RS still has a lot to offer the community.  Like it or hate it, RS is here to stay...

But, I can see it from the views of the people that dislike RS, and they have their reasons... I do think that it gets a little old though, and seems to show jealousy over their success when people complain about them so much.  Maybe I'm reading that all wrong though, it's just how it appears to me.

In a hobby that has become so competitive, it's inevitable that there are going to be some sites that some people despise as some personalities clash; and there's some people that like all the sites and ignore spats between sites.  Personally, I like all the sites, and see some of the stuff that goes on and have heard things from staff from differnet sites about "who did this and who did that so screw them for eternity" - but I think it's way overdue that everyone consider past differnences as water under the bridge and move along, and keep the community fun.  I wish that would happen.

 :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 20, 2007, 11:58 PM
Everyone's so judgemental about the palce because what.....there are too many people there?

Yes, that's the only reason, Josh.

**** me - I can't believe it's taken me this long to figure out that you're Virex. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 21, 2007, 12:09 AM
**** me - I can't believe it's taken me this long to figure out that you're Virex.

And you are. . .  ?   ???

Anyway, guilty as charged.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 21, 2007, 12:19 AM
**** me - I can't believe it's taken me this long to figure out that you're Virex.

And you are. . .  ?   ???

Anyway, guilty as charged.

I'm the last horse to finally cross the finish line. 

Oh yeah - I'm blimpyboy.  I also happen to share your name, Matt.  I'm also Dressel Rebel's gay lover.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 21, 2007, 12:28 AM
I'm the last horse to finally cross the finish line. 

Oh yeah - I'm blimpyboy.  I also happen to share your name, Matt.  I'm also Dressel Rebel's gay lover.

Hi.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 21, 2007, 01:34 AM
In a hobby that has become so competitive, it's inevitable that there are going to be some sites that some people despise as some personalities clash; and there's some people that like all the sites and ignore spats between sites.  Personally, I like all the sites, and see some of the stuff that goes on and have heard things from staff from differnet sites about "who did this and who did that so screw them for eternity" - but I think it's way overdue that everyone consider past differnences as water under the bridge and move along, and keep the community fun.  I wish that would happen.

 :P

I agree with everything quoted above. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 21, 2007, 02:39 AM
I think some clarification needs made here because it always seems to get misunderstood in this thread and crap over yonder at RS.

There is no "hate" for that site...  There's certainly dislike for certain people at that site.  There's certainly dislike of how the forums are handled at that site which is to criticize that "community" in general.  There's lots of good people there, but they're shadowed by 2 things that the vast majority here dislike...

-ignorant users in mass abundance.  Lots of people who wouldn't last a WEEK here are over there.  They'd either be told to shape up and ship out, or they'd simply get banned for things they do.  We tolerate a certain level of "douchebaggery".  We also know when to drop the hammer.

That's, to me, the A#1 problem with Scum's boards...  They don't give 2 ***** who is there.  They want the traffic, regardless, and only react to people who make it to the administration's radar.  Everyone else, and every other member's disgust with certain people, is ignored.  I could name one specific person who's been there for YEARS, who is a total prick.  I'll say it proudly that the guy has no personality other than a bad one, and adds nothing but misery to other people with every post he makes.  He's condescending, a total dip****, never has anything but negativity to aim at OTHER people (not even the toys, just other people).  He's an ass, always has been, he wouldn't last a week here, and yet he's let slide routinely...  Only because he doesn't bother the admin.

-And next, staff that are, or can at the very least behave like, the same ignorant users cited above...  Sometimes it's been Philip acting this way.  Sometimes it's been moderators abusing their "powers".  Sometimes it's simply telling your readers when they make suggestions to go piss off because it's your site and you run it how you please...  No explanation, nothing cordial, just a big "go toss off". 

It's maybe the fact they are left dealing with children a lot, or with people who can't grasp the concept of proper "netiquette", I don't know.  I do know that the people who have dealt with these "leaders" and got disrespected have generally left.  Good for them.

But, with that said...

There's not some blanket hatred between our site and theirs.  We mention them, they mention us.  They have their world, we have ours.  They've always been friendly when we met them, we've always been friendly in return...  We're friends with some of their staff here...  Some of them probably dislike some of ours, and some of ours dislike some of theirs.  Nothing major, and there's no actual major dislike. 

This thread exists for one simple reason...  It CAN exist here.  It CANNOT exist there. 

Maybe some of you view this thread as negative...  I don't.  I know you cannot say the things there that are being said here.  I know if you've got a beef there, from past experiences, that you ran into a brick wall and any complaining you did was mysteriously removed.  ALWAYS. 

We let this thread go because it's everything you cannot do there.  It only ever bumps up when something dumb goes down over there.  Something so dumb that people get banned over it when they say, "Yo Philip, this is dumb".  And let's face it, this thread's back because of the "All Caps Title" rule over there.  And that's a pretty dumb rule...  and it sounds like it was a sour grapes incident from Philip...  again.  I don't even dislike Philip personally, he seems like a personable man at times, but then I see him on the forums there and he seems like a guy on a power trip at times with something that I admittedly feel he "stole" from under another person.

As far as between-site incidents (Outside of Scum)...  Knowing the **** I've seen, not just the public stuff with Scum, I can safely say that there's TONS of bull**** between sites.  And some of them act like children about this hobby and like to hold major beefs over the pettiest of bull****.  Like Chris I won't get into specifics, and I'm not even an admin at this site and I can tell you I've seen some comical stuff in just recent months much less the years I've worked here.

I've got a buddy who is in the hobby...  I've wanted him to join up here.  He won't, even though he likes our site a lot, because he went through the bull**** of between-site-politics at another place and hates it.  I dont' blame him because you wind up putting up with a lot of people that take the hobby as serious as if it's their real job.  They treat this as life, and people like that are pretty much impossible to deal with.

At the end of the day though, we actually do get along with Scum here.  If we didn't we'd not be mentioned by them ever, and we'd never reciprocate I'm sure.  Their forums though are generally the focus of this thread...  Sometimes the front page, but not nearly as much as the dumb things that go on in the forums, and i don't think many here can deny that this thread got bumped because of a pretty dumb thing that happened there.

Compounded by another dumb thing you (Josh) brought up yourself here (the swearing rule).  This thread exists for a pretty solid reason then.  But there's never been any real "water" to put a bridge over.  Our guys that are banned don't WANT to be there and happily avoid that place (and this thread for the most part) while the rest of us just comment on the dumb as it crops up.  It cropped up this past week I'd say.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 21, 2007, 02:24 PM
That's, to me, the A#1 problem with Scum's boards...  They don't give 2 ***** who is there.  They want the traffic, regardless, and only react to people who make it to the administration's radar.  Everyone else, and every other member's disgust with certain people, is ignored.  I could name one specific person who's been there for YEARS, who is a total prick.  I'll say it proudly that the guy has no personality other than a bad one, and adds nothing but misery to other people with every post he makes.  He's condescending, a total dip****, never has anything but negativity to aim at OTHER people (not even the toys, just other people).  He's an ass, always has been, he wouldn't last a week here, and yet he's let slide routinely...  Only because he doesn't bother the admin.

If you're talking about the same guy I'm thinking of, TK 421 1/2, way back in late 2003 I got a warning from Phillip the Wise himself about antagonizing him.  Granted, I did purposefully go through his list of most recent posts and respond to each one letting him know about how big of a jackass he was being, trying to bait him into saying something that would get him banned, and Phillip e-mailed me telling me to knock off the flaming.  Figures.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on March 21, 2007, 02:59 PM
If you're talking about the same guy I'm thinking of, TK 421 1/2

Something tells me that's not the guy Jesse's talking about.  :)

John
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 21, 2007, 03:05 PM
Hah.   :D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 21, 2007, 03:24 PM
If you're talking about the same guy I'm thinking of, TK 421 1/2

Something tells me that's not the guy Jesse's talking about.  :)

John


Something tells me you're right.  But if you say his name three times, he's going to appear here and start a flame war.

Biggie Smalls
Biggie Smalls
Biggie Smalls!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on March 21, 2007, 04:23 PM

So go ahead and believe that RS has pictures up first, always.  Continue on believing that back-stabbing, underhanded behaviors don't occur in this hobby and that everyone is a friendly competitor.

I was a little miffed a few months back when I exclusively posted the first image of the 12" Endor Trooper squad here in the JD forums and only a few minutes later the exact same image was photoshopped (with the trademark blue background) and splattered on the front page of RS.

Now I know images on the internet are free to everyone, but it would've been nice if JD or myself were credited for the image.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 21, 2007, 06:20 PM

So go ahead and believe that RS has pictures up first, always.  Continue on believing that back-stabbing, underhanded behaviors don't occur in this hobby and that everyone is a friendly competitor.

I was a little miffed a few months back when I exclusively posted the first image of the 12" Endor Trooper squad here in the JD forums and only a few minutes later the exact same image was photoshopped (with the trademark blue background) and splattered on the front page of RS.

Now I know images on the internet are free to everyone, but it would've been nice if JD or myself were credited for the image.

Wow, really? They photoshopped it?  Was there a JD watermark on it?
I'd love to see pics of that...I never noticed (but I do remember that squad photo on their front page).
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on March 21, 2007, 07:24 PM
If you're talking about the same guy I'm thinking of, TK 421 1/2...

I hate that guy.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 21, 2007, 08:06 PM
If you're talking about the same guy I'm thinking of, TK 421 1/2...

I hate that guy.

   E...

Ditto.  Maybe if we all call him out consistently for his condescending replies, Phillip will get tired of seeing to many useless posts and ban him just to get it off his back.  Passive aggressiveness, baby!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 21, 2007, 08:35 PM
If you're talking about the same guy I'm thinking of, TK 421 1/2...

I hate that guy.

   E...

Ditto.  Maybe if we all call him out consistently for his condescending replies, Phillip will get tired of seeing to many useless posts and ban him just to get it off his back.  Passive aggressiveness, baby!

Not likely. He'll probably get promoted to moderator.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on March 21, 2007, 10:23 PM
That has never ever happened

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 21, 2007, 10:35 PM
I have it on good authority that that's not GNT at all.  It's some other guy named Greg.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 21, 2007, 10:58 PM
I have it on good authority that that's not GNT at all.  It's some other guy named Greg.


Unless Greggers posts a real picture of himself, it will forever be Gregg.

Just like we have a picture of Lady Jaye.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on March 21, 2007, 11:18 PM
The power of google does not lie...Gregg's cousin Greg did not attend Horngorts School of Post Padding and Douchebaggery
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 22, 2007, 12:58 AM
I have it on good authority that that's not GNT at all.  It's some other guy named Greg.


Unless Greggers posts a real picture of himself, it will forever be Gregg.

Just like we have a picture of Lady Jaye.

That's NOT Lady Jaye.  I have that on good authority too.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 08:19 AM
Just like we have a picture of Lady Jaye.

Well if you want to believe that's me, fine!! Like I've told JoshEEE my concern is how my entire name got out there!! I've never said it on the boards, and the only way to get that picture was to type in my first and last name! That's what pissed me off the most. That someone that I dealt with offline via email or one of the former scum mods or a mod here, gave out my last name!

There's only a few people that I dealt with offline, one being yourself Rob, when I asked that you work your photoshop magic for me for an assignment at school!!

I would really love to know who first posted that pic!! JoshEEE said I should ask. Although seriously I doubt anyone will come forward to acknowlede they were the ones that gave out my private information. The pic I could care less of, it's how you found it that concerned me.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on March 22, 2007, 08:39 AM
Well if you don't care about that picture, would you mind confirming or denying that THIS (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=91527420) is your MySpace page? 

I'm trying to settle a bet.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 08:41 AM
How much do I get on the pot if I say it's not mine?? What's your take?? Is it mine or not??? Answer me that and I'll tell you yay or nay!! ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on March 22, 2007, 08:52 AM
Unfortunately, the stakes, as well as the parties involved, are confidential.  I'd hate to be complicit in violating anyone's privacy..

My take is that it is you..

It is yours..

Okay, now tell me yay or nay..
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 08:58 AM
Hmmm well then since privacy is your concern, I will respect that, even though I doubt the feelings would be reciprocated. It's not my myspace account!!  I'm older, but not that old!! :o

Oh and I don't have kids!! That's the biggest giveaway that it's not me. Never have I ever said I have kids!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 22, 2007, 09:17 AM
For whatever it's worth LJ, I did not tell anyone your real name.

But mine is Rob Foster if anyone was curious.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 22, 2007, 09:33 AM
Lady Jaye, your obsession with keeping anonimity is probably more than anything what's making people so determined to uncover your image or identity.  I mean, when you and GNT worry so much and get so offended when people post a picture of someone who might be you, it makes them think you all have something to hide.  My advice would be to just throw them a bone - a fake picture, name, or whatever.  As long as we believe that it's you, it might as well be, no?

But, if you think people who have traded with you posting your private info is underhanded, there are even more underhanded ways of figuring out who people are online, ways that are infallible in determining someone's name, address, etc.  I would just let this go and ignore it.  When GNT threatened to sue a few years back, it got him nowhere but to being the butt of everyone's jokes...as if he wasn't already that beforehand.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 10:25 AM
My advice would be to just throw them a bone - a fake picture, name, or whatever.  As long as we believe that it's you, it might as well be, no?

LOL!! A pseudonym!! I could try that!! :P

I would just let this go and ignore it.

I have let it go, in fact I don't mention it! Others always seem to bring it up, again and again, it's like a broken record with these guys.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 22, 2007, 10:27 AM
Apparently, I'm a hot **** comedian!

http://www.itsrobfoster.com/index.html

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jeff on March 22, 2007, 10:59 AM
Like I've told JoshEEE my concern is how my entire name got out there!!

It's on your file card, duh.   ::)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/images/ladyjaye.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: stormie on March 22, 2007, 11:48 AM
If you're talking about the same guy I'm thinking of, TK 421 1/2...

I hate that guy.

   E...

Ditto.  Maybe if we all call him out consistently for his condescending replies, Phillip will get tired of seeing to many useless posts and ban him just to get it off his back.  Passive aggressiveness, baby!

He's already here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12044.msg219838#msg219838), but usually just confines himself to the store reports section. Although, he did make one (not-well-received) attempt at posting in another section.  :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on March 22, 2007, 01:45 PM
Apparently, I'm a hot **** comedian!

http://www.itsrobfoster.com/index.html



dude...i think that's the saddest little website i've ever read.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 22, 2007, 03:22 PM
Lady Jaye, your obsession with keeping anonimity is probably more than anything what's making people so determined to uncover your image or identity.  I mean, when you and GNT worry so much and get so offended when people post a picture of someone who might be you, it makes them think you all have something to hide.  My advice would be to just throw them a bone - a fake picture, name, or whatever.  As long as we believe that it's you, it might as well be, no?


I tend to agree.  I can't remember who the detectives were here that "Unmasked" GNT and Lady Jaye, but I think they did the community at large a service.  We were all curious.  I'm surprised you guys don't want to stand up and take a bow (although I can understand why you don't, because GNT would sue you and LJ would probably kill you).

I think the only reason anyone ever cared what GNT looked like is he was so obsessed with trying to keep himself this big huge mystery over there.  If he was just some random poster, that'd be fine...but this dude wanted to have ten million posts, his opinion in every topic....yet still be anonymous. He would refer to himself as a computer program, say he was many people...silly stuff like that.  He was a weird dude.  I get wanting privacy, but this dude didn't even want to tell anyone his first name until he became a moderator and HAD to.   So I get why people were curious.

The funniest part back then wasn't the picture itself (he's a normal enough guy)...it was that he went to such great lengths to deny that it was him.  The easiest way to diffuse the whole thing would have been to just post a real picture if that wasn't him, but he chose to threaten people with lawsuits, call for bannings and invent cousins with the same name. That's what made it so funny.  It's like "If that's not you, why do you care so much...and if it is...why do you care so much that people know now?"

Exact same thing with my pal Lady Jaye, here.  Her picture got posted, she freaked....but even though she denied it up and down, the truth is, once it was out there, the whole "mystery" sort of ended because everyone now had a name and a face to go with screen-name.   "LJ", to be honest with you, the funniest thing about that whole situation was you did the exact same thing as GNT with constant denials and claiming there's someone else in your town with the same exact name, etc, etc.   It had nothing to do with your actual name or your image. 


"Person commonly known as Lady Jaye", I realize that these days you still prefer to keep BOTH your name and your face a "secret" (even from the people that already saw the pictures and already know your name).  I try to honor that request and not repeat the "name that shall not be spoken" anymore. I get that you want your privacy, and I think most people respect it publicly, but I still think it's really weird that you're so terrified that someone might relate to you as a real person instead of a cartoon character.  Some people here have "known" you for more than 6 years now....I mean....at one point is it time to stop being so afraid of them?  I think it's just human nature to want to know who you're talking to.  You know so much about so many people that you talk to....but you want to keep everything about you under wraps.  I'm sure you can understand why some people are a little curious.  Hell, until I saw your picture, I would have sworn up and down that you were a dude.

These days the mystery is gone. I know your name, but I still call you the cartoon name cause that's what you like. I've seen you picture (even though we all pretend that's not you)...but I don't repost the image or anything because I know it would piss you off.  I think that's the case with most people and that's why the curiousity isn't really there anymore.  Unless of course that's really not you, and then yeah....I'm still a little curious.  Feel free to end the "mystery" once and for all anytime you want to. ;)


Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 22, 2007, 03:40 PM
Wow another Lady Jaye on My Space who is a big Star Wars fan. That's something else.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on March 22, 2007, 03:45 PM
Surely that's not the only photo online of the user who prefers to be known as LJ?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 03:50 PM
I know your name, but I still call you the cartoon name cause that's what you like. I've seen you picture (even though we all pretend that's not you)...but I don't repost the image or anything because I know it would piss you off.  I think that's the case with most people and that's why the curiousity isn't really there anymore.  Unless of course that's really not you, and then yeah....I'm still a little curious.  Feel free to end the "mystery" once and for all anytime you want to. ;)

And I thank you for it!! Sure it may seem silly to others, but it's what I would like. I respect others wishes for privacy, and ask the same!

And you really want to "meet" me, then you can always fly me out to Seattle, I'd take a free trip any day!! ;D  But anyhow let's move on, this subject is done and over with! Back to the real topic at hand, the scum and how everyone here loves it!! ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on March 22, 2007, 03:56 PM
It is a pretty dead horse, but the fact that you admit to being on myspace in this thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1641798&page=5&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1641798), further lends me to believe that the user Lady Jaye on myspace.com may in fact be you.  And this isn't an issue of privacy anymore, since you publicly admitted to being on myspace in that thread...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 22, 2007, 04:00 PM
That's not LJ's myspace page. There are multiple LJ's.

Anyways, I thought you were only suspended for a week. Has it been extended?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 22, 2007, 04:04 PM
Anyways, I thought you were only suspended for a week. Has it been extended?

I hope so.  Rebelscum's loss is surely our gain.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 04:05 PM
It is a pretty dead horse, but the fact that you admit to being on myspace in this thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1641798&page=5&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1641798), further lends me to believe that the user Lady Jaye on myspace.com may in fact be you.  And this isn't an issue of privacy anymore, since you publicly admitted to being on myspace in that thread...

Oi, this continues JoshEEE, SA Longhorn, and anyone else on my friends list, is that my space on mypsace???

Alex, yeah it was only a week! But like I've been talking to JoshEEE via messages at myspace, I think this may be it for me and the scum. I won't outright delete my account, but I think it's time to move on! Besides most of the people I'm friends with, are on myspace anyhow, so most of them send me messages via there!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on March 22, 2007, 04:06 PM
I think we should settle this whole thing with a fair compromise.


just post a pic of your boobs.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 04:08 PM
I hope so.  Rebelscum's loss is surely our gain.

Don't worry, I won't be here that much either!! In fact I hadn't posted a thing in this thread until yet again my name came up!! I only post in the 24 thread really, well that and your DS thread!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 22, 2007, 04:14 PM
. . .well that and your DS thread!

Yeah, speaking of that, hook me up with your Friend Code for Mario Kart.  I'd like to get my ass kicked sometime.

Mine's 085993-168425
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 04:25 PM
Yeah sure, but unfortunately I don't have wi fi at the house anymore!! I'm moving in May, so hopefully the new place will have it!! But I'll pm ya the code once I get to the house!

If anything we can set up a time to play, since there is a cafe by the house that has wifi!! Maybe we can set up a time for all JD DS owners to have a good Mario Kart race!! ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on March 22, 2007, 04:38 PM
I can't remember who the detectives were here that "Unmasked" GNT... I'm surprised you guys don't want to stand up and take a bow (although I can understand why you don't, because GNT would sue you...

I don't think the folks who solved the "World's Greatest Mystery" have ever tried to be secretive about it.  Heck, one of them was even chatting with you about it that night, as the events were unfolding, Josh.  Remember?  But really it was mostly just one person who solved that puzzle.  I was just along for the ride, and to offer my moral support throughout the project.

Quote
The funniest part back then wasn't the picture itself (he's a normal enough guy)...

 ???

Quote
...The easiest way to diffuse the whole thing would have been to just post a real picture if that wasn't him, but he chose to threaten people with lawsuits, call for bannings and invent cousins with the same name.

Well, not quite the same name.  Please don't forget that he also went into his high school's website later that night, and changed the spelling of all of the "Gregg" names attached to his picture, to just "Greg".  That was my favorite part, and certainly the most concrete evidence against him.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 22, 2007, 04:47 PM
Yeah sure, but unfortunately I don't have wi fi at the house anymore!! I'm moving in May, so hopefully the new place will have it!! But I'll pm ya the code once I get to the house!

If anything we can set up a time to play, since there is a cafe by the house that has wifi!! Maybe we can set up a time for all JD DS owners to have a good Mario Kart race!! ;D

(Responded in The DS Thread (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=14604.msg290606#msg290606), so as to not further derail this one. . .)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 22, 2007, 06:24 PM


Oi, this continues JoshEEE, SA Longhorn, and anyone else on my friends list, is that my space on mypsace???

In all seriousness...I will vouch that Lady Jaye does have a different myspace page than the one linked up there.  While it's freaky there's another GI Joe loving SW fan named Lady Jaye, I've been to her real page a couple of times and that's not it.  Hers always has neato backgrounds.  No pictures of her though.


I don't think the folks who solved the "World's Greatest Mystery" have ever tried to be secretive about it.  Heck, one of them was even chatting with you about it that night, as the events were unfolding, Josh.  Remember?  But really it was mostly just one person who solved that puzzle.  I was just along for the ride, and to offer my moral support throughout the project.


To be honest, my memory of that event is too fuzzy for me to pretend I remember it clearly.  I remember I was pretty excited at the time, but that's because it was a big deal back then.  I can't remember the threads or who was in them....only the resulting hilarity of lawsuits, name changings, etc, etc.

Either way...water WAY under the bridge.  Those were fun times.   


Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on March 22, 2007, 06:44 PM
In all seriousness...I will vouch that Lady Jaye does have a different myspace page than the one linked up there.  While it's freaky there's another GI Joe loving SW fan named Lady Jaye, I've been to her real page a couple of times and that's not it.  Hers always has neato backgrounds.  No pictures of her though.

What about on the pages of her friends?

(http://www.congruentinc.com/imagestopost/bertha_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 22, 2007, 07:46 PM
Foiled by the internet, a digital camera, and a photo posting friend!!!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on March 22, 2007, 08:45 PM
What about on the pages of her friends?

Uh-oh...  :-X
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: BillCable on March 22, 2007, 08:51 PM
I have to agree with the rest of the group here.

Screw all these pussies - I say go to the mattresses, mutha****a!

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 08:56 PM
What about on the pages of her friends?

What about them?? Any reason you feel the need to save and post a pic that I took?? Thats in the same vein as someone copying a pic of you and your family!!

Foiled by the internet, a digital camera, and a photo posting friend!!!!

Actually it was a regular camera that was developed with a CD. Which is why the pics are grainy!! Tell me Alex, again refresh my memory, have you ever posted a pic of yourself, or your friends??

I really hate going back into this, but it just seems that people can't leave stuff be and jjust move on!! I mean damn how many times does this one topic have to be brought up??
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 22, 2007, 09:22 PM
How about that the picture is grainy....

Actually my picture was posted twice I believe over at scum. It was funny stuff. It was this picture of me going to CBIII. My eyes were all red from red eye and have this grin on my face like I was a kid going to Disney World. A funny picture and many had a good laugh at it.

Then there's another picture of me at a Jimmy Buffett tailgate that was posted on one of the Buffett websites. That was pretty cool.

A bunch of my friends have their picture on the internet. Kind of commonj place in this day and age.

I'm not sure what your point was with asking.

Thanks for asking though because it brought up some good memories.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 22, 2007, 09:32 PM
Oh, didn't know?? Hey Dean, did you save some of his pics??

Oh and if you look behind the girl on the left, the background it grainy! Most of the pics that I have on CD from a real film camera come out that way!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 22, 2007, 09:40 PM
Hey Dean if you got that picture of me send me a copy. I think it's on my old harddrive in the basement. Thanks.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on March 22, 2007, 09:50 PM
What about on the pages of her friends?

What about them?? Any reason you feel the need to save and post a pic that I took?? Thats in the same vein as someone copying a pic of you and your family!!


Seriously?  It doesn't seem the same to me at all.  I use my actual name on the boards and have posted pictures of myself (and my family) online many times, even here.  How does it seem the same to you?

Hey Dean if you got that picture of me send me a copy. I think it's on my old harddrive in the basement. Thanks.

You're going to need to look in your basement.






Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 22, 2007, 09:57 PM
Thanks Dean. I thought you kept a photo file of all users of the internet. Maybe I read too much into LJ's posting :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 22, 2007, 11:51 PM
Quote
I mean damn how many times does this one topic have to be brought up??

I'm guessing as many as it takes at this point.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on March 23, 2007, 01:17 AM
What about on the pages of her friends?

My memory is foggy... isn't that the same denied visage from the original Bertha incident?  The one on the right?  And just in case I didn't follow along, did Lady Jaye just here confirm that's her own photo?

That's what I think just happened...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Deanpaul on March 23, 2007, 01:35 AM
What about on the pages of her friends?

My memory is foggy... isn't that the same denied visage from the original Bertha incident?  The one on the right?  And just in case I didn't follow along, did Lady Jaye just here confirm that's her own photo?

That's what I think just happened...

No, Bill, you're remembering this one:

(http://www.congruentinc.com/imagestopost/Bertha.jpg)

Yes, she did confirm that this more recent photo was her (on the right):

(http://www.congruentinc.com/imagestopost/bertha_1.jpg)

Which allows us to do a side by side comparison...

(http://www.congruentinc.com/imagestopost/berthacomprl1.jpg)

What coincidences can we observe?

1. The hair parted down the middle is the first point of coincidence I notice.
2. With computer forensic enhancement the left subject has visible highlights in her hair similar to, but less pronounced than the subject on the right.
3. The chins are identical, as are the cheeks.
4. Both images indicate some level of eye brow plucking.
5. The subject on the right is more pale, consistent with time spent in Albany, New York.
6. The length and width of nose are approximately the same.
7. Both subjects wear their shirts unbuttoned in a similar manner.
8. The photo on the right is grainy, because it was taken in low light using a film camera and developed to PhotoCD.

More?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 23, 2007, 01:40 AM
If it's admittedly a photo that she took, and not a photo of her, perhaps it's a photo of a sibling.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on March 23, 2007, 01:51 AM
You're right about the Albany = pale thing.

Also, the eyes are very similar and the same color.

Kevin
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on March 23, 2007, 02:23 AM
If it's admittedly a photo that she took, and not a photo of her, perhaps it's a photo of a sibling.

I believe you meant cousin, right Rob?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on March 23, 2007, 05:28 AM
(http://www.mgroves.com/images/nelson_ha_ha.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on March 23, 2007, 07:21 AM
How about that this is one of the most ridiculous topics I've seen on a Star Wars board?  Is it really that important that you find out what she looks like?  Also, you may want to look at the picture on the left and the fact that she has some moles or birthmarks that are not on the woman on the right.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 23, 2007, 09:29 AM


Which allows us to do a side by side comparison...


What coincidences can we observe?

1. The hair parted down the middle is the first point of coincidence I notice.
2. With computer forensic enhancement the left subject has visible highlights in her hair similar to, but less pronounced than the subject on the right.
3. The chins are identical, as are the cheeks.
4. Both images indicate some level of eye brow plucking.
5. The subject on the right is more pale, consistent with time spent in Albany, New York.
6. The length and width of nose are approximately the same.
7. Both subjects wear their shirts unbuttoned in a similar manner.
8. The photo on the right is grainy, because it was taken in low light using a film camera and developed to PhotoCD.

More?


You are spending way too much time staring at these pictures man.
Besides, I didn't see LJ say that second picture was her.   Is that you, LJ?
 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 23, 2007, 09:35 AM
Thanks Ed. It's true, these guys just don't get it, I'll never post a pic of myself online! I can't believe Dean is so stupid as to think I would post one on myspace after all these years of not posting a pic on the scum. Like I said, if either one is me, so be it!! Hopefully this futile effort will be done with!! Now that Dean has "discovered" who I am!!

Say what you will about the scum, at least their mods respect the wishes of their members who are posting, and won't behave in this infantile behavior. They can behave like babies in many other respects, but respecting the wishes and just letting a topic go is one they don't participate in. I mean this whole topic was dead until staff member Rob, who may not have shown a pic of himself either!! If you have, post it again, let's see it! No wait, maybe Dean has a copy!!

Well at least this conversation was steered away from the blasting that JoshEEE was getting for defending the scum!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CaptainAlex on March 23, 2007, 10:05 AM
(http://x-entertainment.com/stuff/cobra5.jpg)


What coincidences can we observe?

1. The hair parted down the middle is the first point of coincidence I notice.
2. With computer forensic enhancement the left subject has visible highlights in her hair similar to, but less pronounced than the subject on the right.
3. The chins are identical, as are the cheeks.
4. Both images indicate some level of eye brow plucking.
5. The subject on the right is more pale, consistent with time spent in Albany, New York.
6. The length and width of nose are approximately the same.
7. Both subjects wear their shirts unbuttoned in a similar manner.


In all seriousness I think there's some real reaching with the Dean's comparison. I don't think the two women look alike. I do think one of them, the younger one, is that of LJ due to past efforts of deduction from various forum members.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on March 23, 2007, 10:12 AM
Oi, this continues JoshEEE, SA Longhorn, and anyone else on my friends list, is that my space on mypsace???

I'm always late to the party...

I will confirm that the MySpace page posted earlier IS NOT our Lady Jaye's.  But, jeez guys, it's not that hard to find the link to her own MySpace account.  I'll leave the work up to you, but LJ herself posted the link for anyone to see over at RS.  She has a very cool site that no doubt took some time to set up.

I can confirm that neither of the pics posted are her.  The first pic is of someone who graduated in 2002, and LJ is not that young (sorry, LJ!).  And the second is a picture TAKEN BY Lady Jaye, so she couldn't possibly be in it.

I would consider myself one of her real online friends, but even I have yet to see a real photo of her face.  However, I do have other photos of her......of a more explicit kind......that I will freely share.......to the person with the highest bid!!

JUST KIDDING, L J!  I only have GI Joe pics of her to stare at all day...... :(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 23, 2007, 10:22 AM

 And the second is a picture TAKEN BY Lady Jaye, so she couldn't possibly be in it.

I don't know about that, my friend.  Here's a picture of me from myspace page (I'm on the right). I took this picture myself. My camera was on a tripod and I am hiding the little remote control in my right hand.   

(http://myspace-066.vo.llnwd.net/00644/66/03/644893066_l.jpg)

So you see....it IS possible...and the conspiracy theories may continue!  ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on March 23, 2007, 10:43 AM
and I am hiding the little remote control in my right hand.   


I'm glad you mentioned that, because I was pretty sure that you were playing with your junk under the table.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on March 23, 2007, 10:44 AM
I don't know about that, my friend.  Here's a picture of me from myspace page (I'm on the right). I took this picture myself. My camera was on a tripod and I am hiding the little remote control in my right hand.   

Can we start a petition to STOP Josheee from posting pictures of himself??  ;D
Although that pic is very cool!  Somewhere atop the MGM Grand?

As for L.J.'s pic, I know she does not have a digital camera, only a webcamera.  So a timer or high-tech remote camera wasn't used for her pics.

Perhaps if we all pitch-in and get her a digital camera, we can get her to agree to post a pic!?


Foiled by the internet, a digital camera, and a photo posting friend!!!!

Actually it was a regular camera that was developed with a CD. Which is why the pics are grainy!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 23, 2007, 10:48 AM
Well if JoshEEE ever wants to fly me out to Seattle, I'd more than freely take a trip out there!! Then he could finally meet the one and only Lady Jaye!! Otherwise, guess one of those pics could be I!!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 23, 2007, 12:42 PM
As evidenced by all the myspace pages...you are not the "one and only" Lady Jaye.    ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 23, 2007, 01:25 PM
and I am hiding the little remote control in my right hand.   


I'm glad you mentioned that, because I was pretty sure that you were playing with your junk under the table.

No, I was not pulling an Al Bundy (that's reserved for the couch).

Can we start a petition to STOP Josheee from posting pictures of himself??  ;D
Although that pic is very cool!  Somewhere atop the MGM Grand?


You're sick of me already?  Sigh.  :'(
Seriously though, very observant on the location....yes, that picture was taken on the balcony of the room my wife and I had at our wedding.  We were having the rehearsal dinner up there, so that's my nephew and my friend John sitting with me.  That's by far the nicest hotel room I've ever stayed in and the view was amazing.  I had the shutter speed set a little slow on that image to make the hotels in the background light up a bit more. 

Well if JoshEEE ever wants to fly me out to Seattle, I'd more than freely take a trip out there!! Then he could finally meet the one and only Lady Jaye!! Otherwise, guess one of those pics could be I!!!

You want me to fly you to Seattle?  Are you sure this isn't some Dateline NBC trick?   ;D
 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Lady Jaye on March 23, 2007, 02:10 PM
You want me to fly you to Seattle?  Are you sure this isn't some Dateline NBC trick?   ;D

Well if I was 18 and under, then I would be suspicious!! Don't worry, I'm not to catch a predator!! I'm out to catch a free trip!! ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on March 23, 2007, 02:28 PM
Perhaps if we all pitch-in and get her a digital camera, we can get her to agree to post a pic!?

But I already sent all my money to SirSteve so he could get a digital camera!   :-\
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on March 23, 2007, 02:34 PM
You want me to fly you to Seattle?  Are you sure this isn't some Dateline NBC trick?   ;D

Well if I was 18 and under, then I would be suspicious!! Don't worry, I'm not to catch a predator!! I'm out to catch a free trip!! ;D

My point was that I have no idea how old you are.  YOu could be a 40 year old dude for all I know.   ;D
But no, I'm not in the habit of flying random friends from the internet out to Seattle.  If you fly yourself out here, I'll be happy to show you the sights though. 

We have a Comic Con coming up in a couple of weeks, the fun never stops here!

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on March 23, 2007, 04:57 PM
As for L.J.'s pic, I know she does not have a digital camera, only a webcamera. 

Ooooo where can we watch the web chat video then?   ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 17, 2007, 10:36 PM
From the Evil Neighbor

Quote
From OPX:

"We are proud to reveal the Official Pix Celebration IV logo images. Please note some images may change during the final approval and production process. Stay tuned for upcoming announcements on photo sets, and other exclusive items offered by OPX at CIV! Check them all out here."

Go now and check them all out! All I can say is WOW! Plus there is still more coming...


And all I can say is WOW! It's sooooo shocking Dustin is patting himself and Wise Empire's OPX on the back!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 18, 2007, 12:58 AM
Hasbro thinks everything they make is "decent" too, and always fair game for repacking...  Never doing anything bad, and always impressed with themselves...  I lump this in the same category of self-wanking.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on May 19, 2007, 10:31 AM
The morons sure have taken over in Wuher's.  Do they really need an active thread dedicated to every single Batman movie?  Buncha dummies.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on May 19, 2007, 10:56 AM
The morons sure have taken over in Wuher's.  Do they really need an active thread dedicated to every single Batman movie?  Buncha dummies.

my thoughts too.... and got VERY VERY sick of the stupid top ten lists... pardon me while I barf up a lung in disgust
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on May 19, 2007, 08:06 PM
I kindly asked GNT to lock them all up (better yet, delete them all), but as expected, he chose not to.  I think one all-encompassing Batman thread would suffice.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Famine on May 20, 2007, 06:17 PM
I kindly asked GNT to lock them all up (better yet, delete them all), but as expected, he chose not to.  I think one all-encompassing Batman thread would suffice.

Harvey Dent for Moderator!

Kevin
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on May 24, 2007, 12:57 PM
It would be wrong of me to suggest that Scum is reading the forums/front page here then posting news, right?  Yeah, I guess so.  Due apologies, but it's just interesting to see all the stuff I read about late last night here and saw this morning first thing here getting up on their page just now.  Just an observation really and it's probably nothing more than their staff being based out west (I presume) rather than having some guys out east or in the central part of the country.  But it's almost like they're watching Jeff/Jesse/Scott and then posting news.  I've been clicking around looking for C4 news at various sites to see whose posting what and well, never mind.

Nah, couldn't be.  Sorry for insinuating as much.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on May 24, 2007, 01:07 PM
Well they often say that their scoops come from their Rebel Spies... maybe they just weren't saying what or who they were spying on?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on May 24, 2007, 01:33 PM
It's probably best that the images turned out blurry otherwise RS might have cropped them and slapped them onto a blue background like they do everything else.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 24, 2007, 01:56 PM
Not that that would be a reason for us to want blurry images..but, yeah.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on May 24, 2007, 02:01 PM
RS actually has clear pics up now of the Hasbro items.  Just the basic figures and Battle Packs so far.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on May 24, 2007, 02:06 PM
Yeah the timing of the stories was just coincidental for the most part though Scum was up with their figure list slightly before we were, however our figure list contained different information/details, and Scum got a clearer look at things so their story included the proper nametag/name of the figure and things...  Ultimately reading both stories gave you the full scoop last night ironically.

Sir Steves had a little posted too but nowhere near complete and filled with holes and things...  THey'd apparantly been able to catch a glimpse of Hasbro unpacking and missed alot of what they were bringing while Scum seemingly got there when it was unpacked but not displayed, and ours came after everything was on display it seems.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on May 24, 2007, 03:03 PM
I was just poking fun ;)  Scum's obviously got a boatload of good pictures up now.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 24, 2007, 03:48 PM
I was just poking fun ;)  Scum's obviously got a boatload of good pictures up now.

Yeah, Scum has nice photos. I don't see any covered up stuff though. Is there none? Was the uncovered/underneath covered items photos taken by us leaking too much at last years' CC-so now they're not doing that?

Hard to imagine much left to be surprised about during the panel but I'm sure I will be..about something.

the new stuff= wow! Now all the corporation has to do is get retail to buy more TAC, so we see more in the stores so everyone gets it!

DS
Title: wise, gallo, etc.
Post by: effexseven on June 4, 2007, 02:46 PM
I was banned from rebelscum.

Now it's on ladies  ;)

Craig Ginter
Title: Re: wise, gallo, etc.
Post by: JohnH on June 4, 2007, 06:03 PM
Craig, why were you banned, if you don't mind my asking?  You can PM if you want.

John
Title: Re: wise, gallo, etc.
Post by: effexseven on June 4, 2007, 07:02 PM
Hi John, without going into too many details, I'll put it like this.

The site is called rebelScum.com (scum being the key word), or.......

I wish to be a valuable asset and contributor to jedidefender.com forever.

You folks seem a TON more easy going, and most importantly, not Greedy.

90% of the people that run that site are cool and professional, the remaining 10% (I know they will read this)
better hope they never see my face :)
Title: Re: wise, gallo, etc.
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 4, 2007, 08:24 PM
Too bad, but their loss is our gain.  I think the only good forum they have going is the Vintage forum, which has always been its own entity, but quite a few of them are now migrating here or to GH.

Which is fine by me.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on June 4, 2007, 09:58 PM
Merged your topic with this thread Craig, more to do with RS than vinty.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 4, 2007, 11:00 PM
I used to like going into Wuher's and the custom's section especially.....
I even posted in the  *waitforit*   Site Feedback section. :o

Then it got hostile and I quit going there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 5, 2007, 01:29 AM
Well regardless...  You're here now effexseven, hope you have a good time...  Should go introduce yourself in the Hello forums so everyone gets some background but it's always good to have a new face.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 5, 2007, 08:11 AM
I remember back in the day, when I used to think the Feedback Section was where you put criticisms for the sake of improving the site. That was years ago... I figured, surely by now, there wouldn't even be a Feedback Section.

Rebelscum is in its own league, where it doesn't need to rely on good testimony to stay alive - it doesn't need the kind of tight knit communities that JediDefender, GalacticHunter, YakFace, ArtoosNews, Sandtroopers, etc, need in order to have a purpose. Back when half of us were actually still members of Bounty Hunter Collective, we started to call our old friends making the jump over here "Refugees".... because that's what it was really getting to be like. At one point, there was even a manhunt to suspend/ban anyone with any ties to JediDefender. Insanity. Yet the place is still thriving, because it has a pretty hefty treasury. Philip has had some real awful management in place for a long time, and canned some really good management after a short time (not you, LadyJaye)... but I acknowledge the man is a good enough business man to have been able to establish himself as the Fan Club President.

Which is why, to me, the people who've decided to stay there are really just "Consumers"...

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on June 5, 2007, 10:46 AM
I agree, it is in it's own area. Definately can't be classified with other SW collecting/fan sites. What's another really good site like jedidefender where they don't allow BS unequality moderation that RS has?

DS
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on June 27, 2007, 02:22 PM
Man, this is the most hilarious post ever. I fell out of my chair laughing.

...From the "Darth Malak" thread...

Quote
You know... this will be my last strenuous post for tonight. What the [censored] can we do, you know? We are just oppressed, little people who can't do [censored] about anything. We have basically given hasbro our lives. We have poured our hearts into their company. Their families and their joy come at the expense of our suffering. Yet, the world is [censored] greedy. That's just how it is. Collectors getting sucked dry is just a grain of sand in what is known as reality. The world is a [censored] up place. No one gives a [censored] about each other. What is all of this complaining going to do? You know what? I would [censored] throw chairs during a hasbro presentation if I knew that my fellow collector base would back me up and say what hasbro has been doing is absolute [censored]. I hate it. I really hate it. This hobby really isn't for me. I don't want to be a sucker anymore. I want to give up my addiction. Not because of Star Wars though, it's because of the pieces of filth known as hasbro. They have never made me feel welcome. They have never shown one inkling of care or respect for me. They haven't cried or gave a damn about how I felt. How can I continue supporting something I knew was going to take advantage of me from the beginning? I am ashamed of myself now actually. And I have decided that I am going to quit collecting after the 30th Anniversary Collection. I hate hasbro with all of my heart because they have wounded me personally so much. But hasbro isn't the only selfish and greedy company out there. This world is filled with horrible [censored]. [censored] we can't even begin to imagine. I'm hoping one day the people will finally stop allowing themselves be stepped on, be brave and unite to overthrow the scum of the world.

 ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on June 27, 2007, 02:39 PM
I didn't even have to go to RS forums to know that was the mental diarrhea of Tenike1.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on June 27, 2007, 02:40 PM
And there are way too many idiots just like that posting over there.  Especially in the 30th Anniversary section.  Nothing but a bunch of whiny, little bitches.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 27, 2007, 03:40 PM
And there are way too many idiots just like that posting over there.  Especially in the 30th Anniversary section.  Nothing but a bunch of whiny, little bitches.

We saw a lot of that recently in the wrestling thread over there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 27, 2007, 03:44 PM
Quote
You know... this will be my last strenuous post for tonight. What the [censored] can we do, you know? We are just oppressed, little people who can't do [censored] about anything. We have basically given hasbro our lives. We have poured our hearts into their company. Their families and their joy come at the expense of our suffering. Yet, the world is [censored] greedy. That's just how it is. Collectors getting sucked dry is just a grain of sand in what is known as reality. The world is a [censored] up place. No one gives a [censored] about each other. What is all of this complaining going to do? You know what? I would [censored] throw chairs during a hasbro presentation if I knew that my fellow collector base would back me up and say what hasbro has been doing is absolute [censored]. I hate it. I really hate it. This hobby really isn't for me. I don't want to be a sucker anymore. I want to give up my addiction. Not because of Star Wars though, it's because of the pieces of filth known as hasbro. They have never made me feel welcome. They have never shown one inkling of care or respect for me. They haven't cried or gave a damn about how I felt. How can I continue supporting something I knew was going to take advantage of me from the beginning? I am ashamed of myself now actually. And I have decided that I am going to quit collecting after the 30th Anniversary Collection. I hate hasbro with all of my heart because they have wounded me personally so much. But hasbro isn't the only selfish and greedy company out there. This world is filled with horrible [censored]. [censored] we can't even begin to imagine. I'm hoping one day the people will finally stop allowing themselves be stepped on, be brave and unite to overthrow the scum of the world.

Wow...someone needs a hug.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 27, 2007, 03:51 PM
Someone needs the **** slapped out of them...

Best line of the whole thing though, after all that melodramatic bull****...

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And I have decided that I am going to quit collecting after the 30th Anniversary Collection.

He's the opressed slave that isn't going to leave till the field is picked clean of cotton I guess.  Why the **** would you say all that crap, have the gaul to draw parallels to being an "opressed people" like that, then say you'll only quit the hobby after the 30AC is done?  Wha?

I'm all for your right to complain about toys and all, that's a large part of a forum's purpose about toys really, but don't spew that kind of crap around...  If you're really upset to the point that you feel as though you can draw parallels to slavery and opression, I think it's time you go seek some mental help.  And don't hesitate to quit NOW.  Do everyone a favor.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on June 27, 2007, 05:15 PM

Quote
You know... this will be my last strenuous post for tonight. What the [censored] can we do, you know? We are just oppressed, little people who can't do [censored] about anything. We have basically given hasbro our lives. We have poured our hearts into their company. Their families and their joy come at the expense of our suffering. Yet, the world is [censored] greedy. That's just how it is. Collectors getting sucked dry is just a grain of sand in what is known as reality. The world is a [censored] up place. No one gives a [censored] about each other. What is all of this complaining going to do? You know what? I would [censored] throw chairs during a hasbro presentation if I knew that my fellow collector base would back me up and say what hasbro has been doing is absolute [censored]. I hate it. I really hate it. This hobby really isn't for me. I don't want to be a sucker anymore. I want to give up my addiction. Not because of Star Wars though, it's because of the pieces of filth known as hasbro. They have never made me feel welcome. They have never shown one inkling of care or respect for me. They haven't cried or gave a damn about how I felt. How can I continue supporting something I knew was going to take advantage of me from the beginning? I am ashamed of myself now actually. And I have decided that I am going to quit collecting after the 30th Anniversary Collection. I hate hasbro with all of my heart because they have wounded me personally so much. But hasbro isn't the only selfish and greedy company out there. This world is filled with horrible [censored]. [censored] we can't even begin to imagine. I'm hoping one day the people will finally stop allowing themselves be stepped on, be brave and unite to overthrow the scum of the world.

You see? This is the kind of **** which makes me contemplate whether or not a Eugenics Programme might well be worth swallowing the moral pill attendant to it!  :P

Honestly, though, that is probably the best thing I've ever read on the internet. Illbegotten, inane anti-Corporatist notions combined with truly disturbing glances into a precarious emotional state. Brilliant! This is why I love Freedom of Expression.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on June 27, 2007, 07:54 PM
And there are way too many idiots just like that posting over there.  Especially in the 30th Anniversary section.  Nothing but a bunch of whiny, little bitches.

We saw a lot of that recently in the wrestling thread over there.


I saw that thread. I felt like JoshEEE made an ass of himself more than those two other guys though.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on June 27, 2007, 08:12 PM
If you want to really laugh you should read his myspace blog. It's truly fascinating.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on June 27, 2007, 09:27 PM
Honestly, though, that is probably the best thing I've ever read on the internet. Illbegotten, inane anti-Corporatist notions combined with truly disturbing glances into a precarious emotional state. Brilliant! This is why I love Freedom of Expression.

Its pretty good, but not nearly as good as this (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9812.0).
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on June 27, 2007, 10:11 PM
Honestly, though, that is probably the best thing I've ever read on the internet. Illbegotten, inane anti-Corporatist notions combined with truly disturbing glances into a precarious emotional state. Brilliant! This is why I love Freedom of Expression.

Its pretty good, but not nearly as good as this (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9812.0).

Ah-ha-ha, wow! Yeah, I had forgotten about that.

Jedijaybird, do you happen to have a link?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on June 28, 2007, 07:17 AM
So, is this guy upset because Hasbro has made a Darth Malak figure?  It is clear the person is upset at Hasbro, but there is no reason to why the person is upset.  They seem to think Hasbro's one and only purpose is destroy their life.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on June 28, 2007, 09:05 AM
So, is this guy upset because Hasbro has made a Darth Malak figure?  It is clear the person is upset at Hasbro, but there is no reason to why the person is upset.  They seem to think Hasbro's one and only purpose is destroy their life.

I'm stealing that last sentence for my signature: "Hasbro's one and only purpose is to destroy your life." - EdSolo

Although, the GG collectors think it's GG's sole purpose as well.  It could be a hot topic for debate.

   E...

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JoshEEE on June 28, 2007, 03:50 PM


I saw that thread. I felt like JoshEEE made an ass of himself more than those two other guys though.

Yeah, leave it to me to piss people off.  It sucks that Ian got suspended over the whole thing, but he got angry and really wanted to express that (filters be damned).

Personally....I didn't expect the wrestling fans to be so protective of that guy after they found out he was a murderer, but after talking with a couple of them privately, I decided there wasn't really anything else for a "non-fan" to say and let it go.

I think the whole thing should have had it's own topic (so wrestling fans and non-fans alike could discuss it) but that was unfortunately not meant to be.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 28, 2007, 04:22 PM
I think it's a broader LFL conspiracy to ruin everyone's life...  Then whoever gets an LFL license is just dictated to destroy lives.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on July 10, 2007, 05:42 PM
Did anyone catch the "Fan Club President's" State of the Community Address? It's pure comedy.

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Star_Wars_State_Of_The_Community_Address_107350.asp (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Star_Wars_State_Of_The_Community_Address_107350.asp)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on July 10, 2007, 05:48 PM
So as "Fan Club President" what was accomplished by his "administration"?

Is he the official "Lame Duck Fan Club President" now?

 ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on July 10, 2007, 05:51 PM
He didn't really say what he accomplished.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on July 10, 2007, 06:16 PM
He didn't really say what he accomplished.

What's even the point of a Fan Club President? I think this says it best...

(http://www.the-reel-mccoy.com/movies/1999/images/officespace_thebobs.jpg)

"What exactly do you do here?"
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on July 10, 2007, 06:33 PM
"What exactly do you do here?"

You're very close.

"What would you say. . .  you do here?"
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on July 16, 2007, 06:16 PM
A few weeks ago I got the shaft from one of the mods for posting Shaun Neinast's phone number and mailing address.  When I pointing out that the RS rules say "no member's address shall be posted," I was told I was "reading between the lines" when I mentioned that Shaun is not a member.

It's nice how I go out of my way to take Shaun down for tax evasion, the mods threaten to ban me for it, and then the whole community benefits now that he's out of the game. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on July 28, 2007, 10:55 AM
Is it me, or did RS crash last night?  Have they exceeded their bandwidth limitations?  I know there are going to be demands on the site because of Comic Con, but WTF?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ook on July 28, 2007, 11:11 AM
They crash every ******* night, just not this long. There's usually a good 2 to 4 hours where they're out of commission, though, starting around midnight.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on July 28, 2007, 11:18 AM
Even when the front page is down, the boards still usually work--for me, anyway.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/ubbthreads.php
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ook on July 28, 2007, 11:19 AM
Even when the front page is down, the boards still usually work--for me, anyway.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/ubbthreads.php

Yep.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on July 28, 2007, 11:27 AM
Strange.  I was able to get on Cool Toy Review and the forums but not the main page.  I wonder if the volume of photos is making them crash.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on July 28, 2007, 11:30 AM
If you want to really laugh you should read (tenike1's) myspace blog. It's truly fascinating.

Oh, my. . . (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9819138&blogID=272112807&Mytoken=02D6A36B-0D90-4099-92CF7EA8ED28163916805524)

(http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on July 28, 2007, 01:52 PM
If you want to really laugh you should read (tenike1's) myspace blog. It's truly fascinating.

Oh, my. . . (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9819138&blogID=272112807&Mytoken=02D6A36B-0D90-4099-92CF7EA8ED28163916805524)

(http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)

Ha.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on July 28, 2007, 02:35 PM
Looks like someone at RS has connections - those SDCC presentation images are too clear to have not been taken directly from the original Powerpoint.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on July 28, 2007, 02:58 PM
They had clear photos from the CIV presentation as well.  I'm guessing they just handed Curto a copy of PowerPoint file.  I wonder if they'd do it for other sites if you just asked?

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on July 28, 2007, 03:30 PM
If you want to really laugh you should read (tenike1's) myspace blog. It's truly fascinating.

Oh, my. . . (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9819138&blogID=272112807&Mytoken=02D6A36B-0D90-4099-92CF7EA8ED28163916805524)

(http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)

That guy is such an arrogant prick.  "I was the life of your forum."  Please, if he was anything like he is on the RS forums he's nothing more than a malcontent and no forum I've ever been a part of would miss the guy.

OH!  Even better, the kid is only 19?  That explains so much. 

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on July 29, 2007, 06:57 PM
They had clear photos from the CIV presentation as well.  I'm guessing they just handed Curto a copy of PowerPoint file.  I wonder if they'd do it for other sites if you just asked?

   E...

Hasbro handed out copies to most if not all collector site reporters that were in attendance.  You just have to ask.  I have a copy of the presentation from C4.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on July 29, 2007, 08:13 PM
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I'm sorry to those who I may be making accusations about, but if you indeed stabbed me in the back, I only have one thing to say to you: **** YOU! Why was I mislead and stabbed in the back for being yelled at? If anybody deserved to be beaten into the dirt, it was that piece of garbage den whom you all sided with. Why suck his greasy **** when he is the evil bastard who wronged me? You guys deserve each other if you believe it is okay to punish someone who did no wrong while praise the scumbag who abuses his power. I don't want to have anything to do with you if you thought it was right to do this.



From Tenike's blog.

 ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on July 29, 2007, 10:59 PM
Wow.  Someone's a drama queen.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 30, 2007, 01:33 AM
I was amused today when I saw links to RS's SDCC Hasbro pics with my son's face splattered all over them. My daughter was in there too but hardly visable. I asked them about it and they tell me they were looking at the figs when all of a sudden these people came up behind them and started taking picks like crazy. ;D Thanks to King Maul for the PIX!!

DS
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on July 30, 2007, 01:51 AM
Looks like someone at RS has connections - those SDCC presentation images are too clear to have not been taken directly from the original Powerpoint.

What, like these (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2007/Hasbro/Friday_Presentation)?  :P

(yeah, they'll give site's press members a copy of their PPT file used in the presentation if you ask for it now)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: jadesfire on July 30, 2007, 07:13 PM
Uhm....Mr Colman...your link isn't working very well. :-*
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on August 6, 2007, 12:04 AM
Interesting times in the RS GG forum.  RS member "hunt4bounty" posted that he had 3 spare Bly bust for trade (here) (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2735586&Main=2686047#Post2735586) and was promptly scolded by RS moderator "threedarths" to leave some for the rest of us.  Then threedarths is stupid enough to create a post in the GG thread whining that he was having a hard time with getting paid for the 4 he sold on eBay (here) (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2734443&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1).  Didn't take someone long to see he was selling them for $220 each!  The war rages on, Philip has yet to weigh in....

 ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Hemish on August 6, 2007, 01:06 AM
Thats gold.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on August 6, 2007, 01:13 AM
Similar thing happened after Neyo came out.  A seller in Japan who had 16 of them posted in the classifieds that he wanted $220 each.  I had an extra Green and Malak which I tried to trade this guy.   He wasn't interested, and a third party came in, gave me $220 for my pair, which I sent to the guy in Japan.

Everyone was happy - I got my Neyo for the price of the Gree and Malak ($120), the guy in Japan got his $220, and the third guy got his busts for about $50 less than it would have cost him on eBay - but Phillip came in and locked the thread and banned the guy.

Meanwhile, even if I'd been paying straight out of pocket, this was still $70-$80 less than they were going for on eBay.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 6, 2007, 01:14 AM
Interesting to see what happens as here are a couple priceless quotes from this thread. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ggbusts&Number=2721549&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all)

Quote
And for that effort, you are branded a scalper forever in this forum.

If your entire motivation is to make money off fellow collectors, preventing them from bying that bust for $50, then you are worthless.

and the one that applies:

Quote
Fair warning. Anybody in this forum I find practicing scalping will lose their posting rights.

I'm not messing around with this. Stop the practice if you want to be part of this community.

   E...

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 6, 2007, 01:24 AM
Very interesting indeed, and apparantly threedarths needs to be let go from the site permanently...

To be fair, I agree with Philip on that.  If you're running a collecting site, you're not doing it so others can use it for profiting reasons...  I think Philip clearly missed the "point" of Rob's 3-way trade that worked out for everyone's best interests, but on the issue of scalping in general I think as an admin of a collecting site it's your job sort of to weed out the undesireables taking advantage of others...  Like I said though, it's gonna be interesting to see if what Philip said holds true because if that's the case then threedarth's is toast.

I don't know threedarths personally so I don't like/dislike the guy there...  It's just clealry a black and white issue where the owner of the site's laid down a very specific rule, he's stressed enforcement of it, and someone working there really has ****** up it seems and broke the rule clearly.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on August 6, 2007, 02:18 AM
Double standard?  Where, I don't see one.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on August 6, 2007, 07:31 AM
I'm glad he is getting screwed on the deal, but I guess he got one of five sold.  You even have people on the site saying he didn't violate the collect to collect rules since the item is technically "sold out" after the convention where it was an exclusive.  However, there is that little thing called the GG raffle.  Therefore, it is available after the convention...and also in the upcoming raffle for the five packs.  He deserves to be banned for his own stupidity in my opinion.  It is one thing to scalp five busts (it is scalping no matter what anyone says...all this silly "market value" crap aside), but another to out your own self for doing and then to give someone else a problem about getting extra busts, especially when that person helped out the collecting community by offering them up for one to one trades.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 6, 2007, 03:09 PM
The war rages on, Philip has yet to weigh in....

 

He has now the thread was  locked with this statement.
"As would never post private information about our site volunteers, I'm not going to post any details here about threedarths here.

However, it is true those volunteering for the site need to have a pretty high standard where things like this are concerned."


Wonder if Philip will follow though with his statements in other threads about banning anyone caught scalping? 

I feel sorry for Threedarths with the problem he has with his buyer but think he was stupid for saying what he did to hunt4bounty.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on August 6, 2007, 03:13 PM
I really doubt Philip will ban threedarths. He'll get a small vacation and will be back as a mod.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 6, 2007, 06:03 PM
Wonder if Philip will follow though with his statements in other threads about banning anyone caught scalping? 

Doubtful.  Mainly because there are so many people posting there and it has become such an absolute cesspool of "collectors" there's no way the staff could keep up with it all.  It doesn't help when they turn a blind eye to some of their more prolific posters.  I remember MisterKenobi boasting that he got some Lava Reflection Vaders before they were actually available and was going to put them on ebay shortly after making that post so he could make money to buy other items coming out for ROTS.  As I recall, nothing happened to him.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on August 7, 2007, 07:32 AM
There are just so many idiots on that board.  I can't believe so many people are defending this guy.  Saying things like "well, he didn't scalp on this board, so its ok".  Scalping is scalping, it does not matter if you go straight to ebay or try doing it on a collectors board.  The jerk even has an ebay store.  He is scalping over a dozen animated Fett maquettes as well.  All his ebay prices are inflated.  This guy is a professional scalper hands down.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on August 7, 2007, 05:09 PM
I remember MisterKenobi boasting that he got some Lava Reflection Vaders before they were actually available and was going to put them on ebay shortly after making that post so he could make money to buy other items coming out for ROTS.  As I recall, nothing happened to him.

Nothing ever happens to that guy, no matter what he says.  And he arrogantly says nothing will ever happen to him.  I just ignore all of his comments now.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 7, 2007, 05:18 PM
I ignore him (and pretty much all of Rebelscum) as well, I just used him as an example of how scalping goes on over there and is even boasted about and nothing is done.  Now whether it's due to volume of traffic at the site, moderator apathy, or a combination of both is another question.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MaxWedge on August 17, 2007, 08:06 PM
Philip suspended "BranNutz" for posting "Who is Darth Borat blowing to win every raffle he enters?" here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ggbusts&Number=2761668&Forum=f117&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=2728330&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=16002&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=w&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post2761668).  DarthBorat was bragging that he's won every GG raffle for a clone commander so far (4 for 4) while BranNutz was posting how he hasn't won a single raffle for anything.

So, in a really whiny move, Darth Borat starts this thread (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2761696&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2761696) just to cry about the quote.  This coming from the guy who can't let a thought pass through his head that doesn't end up as a post.  In the 8 months he's been there he's reached almost 3000 posts.  I swear when he came out of the chute back in December posting like that, I though he was Greenday.  Made about as much sense, but with better spelling.  Philip took notice and dealt out a punishment.

Anyway, BranNutz will be back soon and Darth Borat has marked himself as a :'(.

Always good times in the RS GG thread ;).  No wonder people are fleeing that board for GentleGiantCollectors.com
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on August 25, 2007, 02:25 PM
The regulars on the GG boards of Rebelscum should get together with the regulars on the TAC boards and compare who has the heavier menstrual flow.  I've never seen so many whiny, cry baby, suck-ass pussies than on those two boards.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on August 25, 2007, 03:11 PM
I've never seen so many whiny, cry baby, suck-ass pussies than on those two boards.

I second that.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 26, 2007, 09:32 AM
Add the modern classifieds. Every time some calls someone else on scalping, about three or four different people take it personally and vehemently defend the scalpers.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on August 26, 2007, 08:16 PM
The regulars on the GG boards of Rebelscum should get together with the regulars on the TAC boards and compare who has the heavier menstrual flow.  I've never seen so many whiny, cry baby, suck-ass pussies than on those two boards.

I have to agree.  I obviously spend WAY too much time over there, but the becoming-all-too-typical attitudes of a lot of today's collectors really hits my last nerve.  It almost makes me ashamed to share the same hobby with these ******* pansies.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on August 26, 2007, 10:00 PM
I don't think much has changed really in recent years.  There have always been dipshits over there, simply because being the biggest Star Wars collector forum on the internet, they're going to attract the biggest number of dullards.  The bigger it gets, the more dipshits there will be, and unfortunately they are usually the guys who just type whatever incomprehensible bull**** happens to be going through their mind at the time.

But that guy "tenike1" brought the community to a new low. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2007, 04:44 AM
Without restrictions or limitations, a single person could clean that whole board up if they wanted to quite easily.  You just need the freedom to do the cleansing, and nobody telling you who you can/can't ban...  It'd really be quite easy, but it's a matter of wanting quality over quantity, and not the opposite.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on August 27, 2007, 10:20 AM
And monoitoring people who consider themselves above the rules of the community b/c they have "connections" to the Admins over there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on August 27, 2007, 12:49 PM
But that guy "tenike1" brought the community to a new low. 

Amen to that. I'm glad he hasn't been active for awhile, I was getting real tired of his melodramatic dribble. Still, his strange Hasbro conspiracy theories were entertaining.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on August 27, 2007, 07:01 PM
But that guy "tenike1" brought the community to a new low. 

Amen to that. I'm glad he hasn't been active for awhile, I was getting real tired of his melodramatic dribble. Still, his strange Hasbro conspiracy theories were entertaining.

I'm almost sure he's been banned, or at least suspended without a reactivation date.  I hope that dude's parents have him on meds.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on August 28, 2007, 07:31 AM
But that guy "tenike1" brought the community to a new low. 

Amen to that. I'm glad he hasn't been active for awhile, I was getting real tired of his melodramatic dribble. Still, his strange Hasbro conspiracy theories were entertaining.

I'm almost sure he's been banned, or at least suspended without a reactivation date.  I hope that dude's parents have him on meds.

Is this the guy who went off on a rant about Hasbro making the Darth Malak figure?  There was someone on RS who was acting like it was the end of the world that Hasbro was making Darth Malak and Darth Raven figures.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on August 28, 2007, 03:16 PM
But that guy "tenike1" brought the community to a new low. 

Amen to that. I'm glad he hasn't been active for awhile, I was getting real tired of his melodramatic dribble. Still, his strange Hasbro conspiracy theories were entertaining.

I'm almost sure he's been banned, or at least suspended without a reactivation date.  I hope that dude's parents have him on meds.

Is this the guy who went off on a rant about Hasbro making the Darth Malak figure?  There was someone on RS who was acting like it was the end of the world that Hasbro was making Darth Malak and Darth Raven figures.

Yes, that was probably him. Usually if a figure wasn't up to his high standards he went on a rant about it, usually managing to include how he didn't like funding Hasbro's "steak dinners" too.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: blimpyboy on August 28, 2007, 04:43 PM
As bad as it is, I can't help but seeing that guy on a roof top some day with police on the ground blaring on loudspeakers, "You have every reason to live!"  Getting that worked up over a goddamn action figure - wow.  Who cares?

By the way, Reid, I love the quote in your sig.  "Our suffering."  If the only "suffering" in his life is because Darth Malak isn't up to his standards, he has it pretty good.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on September 8, 2007, 11:10 PM
One word: Fornication.

 ::)

Wuher's is certainly getting interesting over there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on February 5, 2008, 03:57 PM
More words of wisdom:

"Get back on topic or we're going to be enjoying the forums without a few members here." - PW
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on February 5, 2008, 06:07 PM
In all fairness, some of the guys in that thread are a pain in the ass and I'm sick of reading most of their posts.  Unfortunately, we're forced to read through them to get to the meaningful information in the various threads.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on February 5, 2008, 06:59 PM
Links people! 

What are we even talking about?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 5, 2008, 07:05 PM
It appears that RS attracts the occasional troll (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=hasbro30th&Number=3054524&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=3035480&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post3054524).  Shocking.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Reid on February 5, 2008, 07:50 PM
It appears that RS attracts the occasional troll (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=hasbro30th&Number=3054524&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=3035480&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post3054524).  Shocking.

****** stole my name too.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on February 5, 2008, 08:01 PM
OMG.

LOL.

Really, most days I forget that Scum exists, be it for better or worse.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on February 6, 2008, 02:07 PM
I love it when this thread gets bumped because I get to look back at my posts from 5 years ago and see how much my style has evolved.

Rebelscum? I could care less...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on February 23, 2008, 06:29 PM
Want to read one of the most obnoxious and smug articles of all time?

Dave "True Fan and Photojournalist" Myatt Recaps Toy Fair (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/3_489_Posted_Photos_After…_112736.asp)

Some highlights...

Quote
Maybe they just need to be seen in person to be appreciated, but I can’t fathom how a true Star Wars fan could possibly not like toys that look exactly like the source material… especially if said toys are super articulated. Of course, in the 7 years I’ve been on the Rebelscum team, I’ve grow quite accustom to the perpetual negative sentiment in our community, but since most of the negativity is said while hiding behind online handles and everyone still buys everything despite their negative statements, I guess the truth behind it all speaks volumes

I guess I'm not a true fan :-X

Quote
On the media front we saw a lot of new faces, and the lack of familiarity did have its own intrinsic problems. You see, when it comes to visiting the bigger companies, the Internet media is often are bundled in with the fan sites and pushed through like a bunch of sweaty cows with cameras. Those of us who have been photographing beside one another for years (I’m referring to you Steve, Adam, Paul, and Mike) have built a good report and have learned to work together and through common courtesy and respectful communication. As such, all of us get good photos. This year we had a slew of would be photojournalists who were only concerned about their own photography and their lack of experience and respect for others slowed the process completely. To all these people, I really can’t stress how much they can improve their ability to work through a display by learning their equipment before an event. Practice makes perfect, and with rooms full of toys in your houses all you need is the will to take the time to learn your craft before jumping into the photo pits.

Don't mess with a master photojournalist :-X ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on February 23, 2008, 08:28 PM
Master journalist indeed.  Report/Rapport.  English, shminglish, why worry about getting the words right, after all.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on February 23, 2008, 09:14 PM
He must go into everyone's homes to see people's collections to make sure they've bought every single figure after someone says something negative about it. -Sincerely Negative Nellie
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on February 23, 2008, 11:06 PM
I'm always surprised that Dave can look up long enough to type a post...you know, what with all the Sideshow dick sucking he's normally involved with.  And when did he become D. Martin anyway? 

I've never had much use for Dave, I don't like him from what I've read in his posts and articles over the years.  As much respect as I have for Dan Curto, I refuse to read CoolToyReview.com because of Dave's affiliation with the site.  I go to John's ToyTraderz.com site for my non-Star Wars news.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on February 23, 2008, 11:20 PM
Want to read one of the most obnoxious and smug articles of all time?

Dave "True Fan and Photojournalist" Myatt Recaps Toy Fair (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/3_489_Posted_Photos_After…_112736.asp)

Some highlights...

Quote
On the media front we saw a lot of new faces, and the lack of familiarity did have its own intrinsic problems. You see, when it comes to visiting the bigger companies, the Internet media is often are bundled in with the fan sites and pushed through like a bunch of sweaty cows with cameras. Those of us who have been photographing beside one another for years (I’m referring to you Steve, Adam, Paul, and Mike) have built a good report and have learned to work together and through common courtesy and respectful communication. As such, all of us get good photos. This year we had a slew of would be photojournalists who were only concerned about their own photography and their lack of experience and respect for others slowed the process completely. To all these people, I really can’t stress how much they can improve their ability to work through a display by learning their equipment before an event. Practice makes perfect, and with rooms full of toys in your houses all you need is the will to take the time to learn your craft before jumping into the photo pits.

Don't mess with a master photojournalist :-X ::)

What a tool.

I've been covering con's and Hasbro events for a couple of sites now for about 5 years or so.  I've run across Dave and Curto more than a few times.  Curto is actually a pretty cool guy in person, and I've got nothing bad to say about him.  The same goes for the guys from GH and the JD staffers that I've run across at these events.  Pleasant people all the way around.

But Dave Myatt?  Or should I refer to him as D. Martin Myatt?  Uck.  I've crossed paths with him at a few cons and Hasbro press events and he's come across like a horse's ass.  Rude.  Interrupting conversations.  Stepping in front of you while you're taking photos.  He should really take a good look in the mirror before posting nonsense like that.

And D.Martin Myatt was also wrong about Hasbro having it totally right.  The Star Wars room was comparitively puny  for the ammount of press that was covering the line.  The Star Wars & Indiana Jones room was far too small for all of the press to do their jobs in a reasonable fashion.  And Hasbro knows going into the event the sites/press that are getting credentials to cover the event...plan accordingly.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Force Guy on February 24, 2008, 09:58 AM
But Dave Myatt?  Or should I refer to him as D. Martin Myatt?  Uck.  I've crossed paths with him at a few cons and Hasbro press events and he's come across like a horse's ass.  Rude.  Interrupting conversations.  Stepping in front of you while you're taking photos.  He should really take a good look in the mirror before posting nonsense like that.

Heh, doesn't surprise me.  But hey, stop being a negative nellie (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3093998&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#3093998).

-  (http://entimg.msn.com/i/mu/n/nelly/nelly_300x298.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on February 24, 2008, 11:56 AM
This is the part that I enjoyed the most:

Quote
For people like us, not getting the scoop out first is a giant frustration, so we were more than a little deflated at times, but at the end of the day, we still managed to get our work done and we were able to get up all the coverage you have grown to expect from Rebelscum and Cool Toy Review.

Heaven forbid.

The SW news dissemination chain goes: God > Hasbro > Rebelscum > dregs  ::)

I guess posting sensitive news in the guise of an "overheard conversation" makes up for the bruised egos.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2008, 12:17 PM
Dave Myatt is a ****.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 24, 2008, 12:18 PM
What a jerk this guy is. RS is not the end all be all of SW collecting sites. It sounds to me as if he feels threatened by new-comers. GOOD!

Maybe these new folks will give him a run for his money.

I've never been a supporter of RS.

The whole fan Club President thing turned a lot of people off. The way many of their mods and PW treat the general forumites there is downright despicable at times. So really, this attitude from this guy is par for the course. It's these very elitest attitude that I dispise.

I happen to belong to several SW collecting sites (as I'm sure many of you are too). Personally I don't find any one better than another. They all have their strong points and I visit them for those reasons.

With regards to RS, it really comes from the top though. PW has forgotten what it is like to be a fan. He's too far deep into the business end of things that I think he's forgotten that in the end of it all, he's just a fan as are the rest of us. If RS died off the net today, there would still be SW collecting sites and people covering these events. RS and their representatives are no more special than any other site's.

I see why now there was a defection some time ago from there to here.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2008, 12:21 PM
Master journalist indeed.  Report/Rapport.  English, shminglish, why worry about getting the words right, after all.

He's Canadian, yeah?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on February 24, 2008, 02:34 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on February 25, 2008, 02:22 AM
And when did he become D. Martin anyway?

When he became the most-important person in all of Star Wars online fandom, that's when.

(By the way, the D's actually short for "******bag."  ******bag Martin Myatt.)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 25, 2008, 02:52 AM
Quote
When he became the most-important person in all of Star Wars online fandom, that's when.

I can't wait till I become J. James McCracken.  I'm one initial away from being really close to Spiderman's boss, and that's cool.  I'm clearly an unimportant "would be journalist" though.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on February 27, 2008, 08:43 PM
Thought I'd share:

http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2008/0227/d_martin.html

Props to Beedo for the audio... which just absolutely makes the article.   ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on February 27, 2008, 09:01 PM
Thought I'd share:

http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2008/0227/d_martin.html

Props to Beedo for the audio... which just absolutely makes the article.   ;D

Outstanding article. I think that pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on February 27, 2008, 09:08 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on February 27, 2008, 09:21 PM
Thought I'd share:

http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2008/0227/d_martin.html

Props to Beedo for the audio... which just absolutely makes the article.   ;D

Very nice.  Although I think a comment on D_Martin's love of dutch angles in his photography fell by the wayside. ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on February 27, 2008, 09:30 PM
Well done Bill, I knew if there was a place with the balls that would be viewed as worse than watto's it would be the CC (BTW...it still sucks!)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: David on February 27, 2008, 09:38 PM
That article is perfect! Excellent job, Bill.  ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Hemish on February 27, 2008, 11:55 PM
Hehehe, that was a good read
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on February 28, 2008, 12:03 AM
Thought I'd share:

http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2008/0227/d_martin.html

Props to Beedo for the audio... which just absolutely makes the article.   ;D

(http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)(http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/thumpsup.gif)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2008, 01:08 AM
Thought I'd share:

http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2008/0227/d_martin.html

Props to Beedo for the audio... which just absolutely makes the article.   ;D

Holy ****...  Ouch.   :-X

Thanks for sticking up for, well, basically everyone else who went to Toy Fair, Bill.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on February 28, 2008, 01:50 AM
Yes, thank you for posting that article.  As I said in my PSWCS email, I'd have written a rebuttal but don't think I could have been as level headed about it.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on February 28, 2008, 11:31 AM
*Edit*
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on February 28, 2008, 11:50 AM
Thought I'd share:

http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2008/0227/d_martin.html

Props to Beedo for the audio... which just absolutely makes the article.   ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/8eee247e0c8881aa752c189gq1.gif)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: David on February 28, 2008, 04:02 PM
http://creaturecantina.com/thecantina/2008/0227.html

More of Bill Cable's beautiful work.  :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2008, 04:07 PM
Is that a blaster under the bar?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on February 28, 2008, 04:18 PM
Is that a blaster under the bar?

No, he's just happy to see you :-X
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 28, 2008, 04:39 PM
Badump ching!

Nicely done.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MetalJedi on February 28, 2008, 07:06 PM
http://creaturecantina.com/thecantina/2008/0227.html

More of Bill Cable's beautiful work.  :)

Awesome! That made me laugh out loud.  :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on February 28, 2008, 10:18 PM
Thanks for the reminder of that visual.  Again. :-X
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on February 28, 2008, 11:10 PM
Thank you all for the positive reactions.  I guess I said something that needed to be said.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on February 28, 2008, 11:20 PM
Yes, nicely done Mr. Cable! Now you need to say it to a particular person who needs to be told.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nathan on February 28, 2008, 11:56 PM
http://creaturecantina.com/thecantina/2008/0227.html

More of Bill Cable's beautiful work.  :)

Made of win, pure win.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on February 29, 2008, 03:57 PM
Beautifully written. I really enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 29, 2008, 09:02 PM
The CC sucks so bad I keep getting a "Problem loading page" error...  >:(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on March 1, 2008, 12:31 AM
Working for me now.  Try again.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 2, 2008, 07:10 PM
Excellent, thanks.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on March 7, 2008, 04:53 PM
Something weird going on over at RS:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/somber77/RSAnts.jpg)

Link (http://www.netdisaster.com)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on March 9, 2008, 01:09 PM
It looks like Philip struck back.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/phruby/jd.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: jjks on March 30, 2008, 01:24 PM
Wow, that Bikerscout guy really thinks you JD staffers are idiots. Shame on you for not listening to him. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3150241&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#3150241)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 30, 2008, 02:29 PM
Wouldn't we be idiots if we did listen to him?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 30, 2008, 03:17 PM
I might've posted that story...

I never talked to him about it I'm sure, so I don't know.  I guess he got nerd served?   ???  Dunno what to say but, sorry your life isn't complete now.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 30, 2008, 06:48 PM
...sorry your life isn't complete now.

(http://www.TheArtOfBradSmith.com/images/Dwight.gif)

"FALSE!"
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on March 30, 2008, 08:58 PM
Wow, that Bikerscout guy really thinks you JD staffers are idiots. Shame on you for not listening to him. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3150241&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#3150241)

Umm..anyone care to shed some light on what this is all about?  I don't think your linky is directing to the right place anymore... :-X
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on March 30, 2008, 09:09 PM
It is the right place, just scroll down to the user name or just click here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB801&Number=3154044&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=3150241&Search=true&where=&Name=12413&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post3154044).

All I can say about that post on RS is...

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Stormtrippers%20Customs/IThinkYouNeedAHug.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on March 30, 2008, 10:13 PM
It is the right place, just scroll down to the user name or just click here (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB801&Number=3154044&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=3150241&Search=true&where=&Name=12413&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post3154044).

Thanks - I see it now.  Gotta love the people who whine about who told who what first...does anyone actually give a fig anyway?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on April 11, 2008, 03:01 PM
Thought I'd share:

http://www.creaturecantina.com/news_stories/2008/0227/d_martin.html

Props to Beedo for the audio... which just absolutely makes the article.   ;D

I wonder if anyone got banned from RS over this. . .
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 11, 2008, 03:10 PM
In a sense...  Yeah, I guess someone did.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on April 11, 2008, 03:34 PM
The PS3 thread here, dormant since last October, has had 26 new posts since that op-ed piece was posted.

Coincidence?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on April 11, 2008, 04:13 PM
Apparently, it's news to everyone at RS:

"Has anyone else noticed that BillCable is gone? This was his last post and it was on 3/3/08 " (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB9&Number=3172954&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=3101982&Search=true&where=&Name=14108&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post3172954)

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on April 11, 2008, 06:53 PM
The PS3 thread here, dormant since last October, has had 26 new posts since that op-ed piece was posted.

Coincidence?

No coincidence at all.   ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on April 11, 2008, 09:33 PM
It's a badge of honor my friend. Wear it proudly. :D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on April 12, 2008, 12:18 AM
I wish I could say it felt that way.  I have a lot of good friends at RS who I can't chat with anymore.  That is the Vintage Community over there, and I'm shut out of it.  All because I was the one willing to say what needed to be said to the face of the 800 pound gorilla... to enlighten through satire.

I'd rather not go more into it.  I'm hoping it'll blow over at some point, and that Phil will see fit to reinstate me.  And if I say too much here it'll just stir up more bad blood and extend the process.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on April 12, 2008, 12:27 AM
I wish I could say it felt that way.  I have a lot of good friends at RS who I can't chat with anymore.  That is the Vintage Community over there, and I'm shut out of it.  All because I was the one willing to say what needed to be said to the face of the 800 pound gorilla...

Just like working for the government.  They're completely humorless and the ego is absolutely massive.  Point out a flaw and you're in the doghouse for life.  No doghouse at 'Scum, but point out a flaw and you are dun.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 12, 2008, 01:21 AM
It'll blow over eventually...  What's sad is that it wasn't done on their forum or site, it was done independantly, and it was 100% fair to give a counter-opinion to the egotistical report Myatt decided to deliver.  I can almost understand if it happened in your own forum, but it didn't, so that really makes it all the more childish and sad.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 12, 2008, 01:39 AM
I wish I could say it felt that way.  I have a lot of good friends at RS who I can't chat with anymore.  That is the Vintage Community over there, and I'm shut out of it.  All because I was the one willing to say what needed to be said to the face of the 800 pound gorilla...

Just like working for the government.  They're completely humorless and the ego is absolutely massive.  Point out a flaw and you're in the doghouse for life.  No doghouse at 'Scum, but point out a flaw and you are dun.

Brent, I have one hell of a sense of humor.  ;)

Bill, I'm actually hoping that your banning will be the catalyst to get a bunch of the Vintage Scummers to migrate here.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 12, 2008, 02:23 AM
Sorry to hear that Bill.  It's too bad people's egos get so big that they can't laugh at themselves. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: john todd on April 12, 2008, 03:06 PM
I wish I could say it felt that way.  I have a lot of good friends at RS who I can't chat with anymore.  That is the Vintage Community over there, and I'm shut out of it. 

that is a shame.  you weren't the 1st focus collector, but your c3po collection seems to have inspired almost everyone to pick a fav figure and try to complete a run.  it wouldn't be a big deal except it reveals certain things about the runs like c3po not having an anakin sticker. 

hopefully you will be let back in since you were/are a member with something to contribute.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 12, 2008, 05:33 PM
Huh, I didn't realize Cable had been suspended either.  Doesn't surprise me, though. 

One interesting thing, did anyone else notice this post from MisterKenobi? 

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This is the first I heard about it though. Strange that he gets banned for something probably trivial, yet when I report someone for repeatedly breaking 5 forum rules in a single day, including name-calling and violating private information regulations specificly outlined in the RS rules, nothing happens. Then again, the choices made by the powers that be on these forums rarely make sense to me.

That from the guy that broke so many rules and never got banned...  That's the real problem with the RS boards.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 12, 2008, 11:10 PM
To his credit (MisterK's), he's probably right in what he says...  Their forums aren't patrolled in the slightest.  Seems to me the mods are only there to feel important and claim some asinine right to start threads themselves and prevent others from doing so.

That's a place that it would almost be a pleasure to clean out...  Let one good mod in, unobstructed, and clean it out.  I know don't personally know any of the new people there (who I'm sure now consider themselves veterans), but I could probably name 5 (likely still active) older members there I'd ban in a heartbeat because they've broken any number of rules...  From name-calling, trolling, and general forum degeneration, to outright scalping and taking advantage of others on those boards.  Why they're left alone, I have no idea...  Banning is easy, and should be used very liberally.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on April 13, 2008, 04:21 AM
Huh, I didn't realize Cable had been suspended either.  Doesn't surprise me, though. 

One interesting thing, did anyone else notice this post from MisterKenobi? 

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This is the first I heard about it though. Strange that he gets banned for something probably trivial, yet when I report someone for repeatedly breaking 5 forum rules in a single day, including name-calling and violating private information regulations specificly outlined in the RS rules, nothing happens. Then again, the choices made by the powers that be on these forums rarely make sense to me.

That from the guy that broke so many rules and never got banned...  That's the real problem with the RS boards.

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That was in reference to me.  I called him a "troll" of all things, and we went at it.  He even sent me some personal PMs that crossed the line in regards to my family, and then conviently "ignores" me so I can't respond.  Of course, he un-"ignored" me to post the above garbage.  He abided by the Admin's warning for a whole seven days before starting up again. ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 13, 2008, 01:25 PM
He's been an ******* since day one.  No reason to believe he'd ever change.  I'm more than happy to let him troll Wuher's.  Since he apparently doesn't collect much anymore I don't see his name pop up often in the modern section and he never really bought GG, SS or vintage.  So he's found his niche, I suppose.

If they'd just clear out the rest of the riff-raff.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 13, 2008, 01:50 PM
It's crap like that , and the complete apathy of the mods, that made me leave there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on April 13, 2008, 04:49 PM
I found something on RS that almost made me go over the edge. For some reason I felt like looking at some of my older posts from when I was still active there. Now that account was banned almost 4 years ago so I had to dig through the member list (including 50+ pages of usernames starting with "Darth") but I eventually found it. When I clicked the link it took me to my old account, where I saw that my email address was listed in plain sight. At first I was extremely pissed off, since I had my email set to private when I visited there, but then I calmed down when I noticed that ol' Wise-Ass left a few hyphens out of the address. So no harm done really, but it pisses me off that Wise-Ass can basically feed banned members' emails to spammers (and I know they're there, with the amount of traffic RS gets)
Title: Rebel Scum Related Question for the "Old Timers"
Post by: Greg on August 8, 2008, 12:43 AM
Hey guys. I have a question... several years back, if I recall correctly, quite a few JediDefender members were banned from the RebelScum.com Forums. If anyone could fill me in with what went down and how it was resolved (if at all) I would appreciate it. I joined the forums at BanthaSkull.com a couple of months ago, and this evening nearly all of the BS forum members were banned from Rebel Scum. This incident has struck me as very familiar, but I cannot find the RebelScum Thread here to compare the details. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebel Scum Related Question for the "Old Timers"
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 8, 2008, 12:51 AM
Try Here. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=14014.0)

You might want to clear your schedule for all the reading.
Title: Re: Rebel Scum Related Question for the "Old Timers"
Post by: Greg on August 8, 2008, 12:52 AM
That's just the thread I was looking for.... thanks dude.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on August 8, 2008, 08:12 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/GNTSistine.jpg)

Did you guys piss of Greg(g)?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on August 8, 2008, 08:14 AM
It was actually Dustin this time, not GotNoTesticles.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 8, 2008, 09:58 AM
Banned the BanthaSkull guys, huh?  You mean the 365th Lockdown Brigade got locked down?  Good riddance for the most part.  They probably got the stick for promoting their web site on the boards...or did they get in a pissing match with someone?

I guess some reading is in order.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on August 8, 2008, 12:32 PM
I'm not too sure what it was. It seems a couple of guys on BS posted some insults about Dustin, so he matched as many names as possible from BS to the RS forums and banned all of them. I find it odd that people get banned for complaining about RS on other sites. I'll give President Bush some credit, cuz even he doesn't appear to deport people for complaining about the USA.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: TheWildWombat on August 9, 2008, 06:41 PM
Actually I was one of the ones that got banned for nothing Franks, and you think thats fair, hmmmmm, what are you on RS's payroll.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 9, 2008, 07:52 PM
I did say good riddance "for the most part."  I have my own issues with RS but when they do finally crack down on those that take away from the community there I'm in full support.

I know that some of the JD guys got banned, at one time, for just being members here and it wasn't for anything they personally did.  I know someone who got banned for something he wrote on his own web site, being critical of an RS employee, which was completely uncalled for.  But I'm not going to feel sorry for anyone that gets booted, from any site, that deserves it.  If you didn't, take it up with the mods over there, calling me out isn't going to help your case.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 9, 2008, 10:48 PM
I don't know what Bantha Skull is or whatever, but I do know Rebelscum would be wiser to look at members who routinely violate all aspects of their own policies over there.  How many trolls lurk those boards telling other members they "whine too much", or how many trolls over there talk down to anyone they feel is beneath them? 

And that's not even new guys...  There are guys that have been there since the BHC that talk **** on other people and wouldn't have lasted a week here because they're simply pricks we wouldn't allow on here.

Actually, come to think of it, I know of at least one or two guys banned here that just hang on like a dingleberry there...  Guess if you kiss the balloon knot enough you get to keep your account. ;)

Regardless though, if it were a spamming thing going on there (IE: constantly linking your site) I don't blame Scum for banning people.  We're generally tolerant of that kind of thing but people have abused that lately and so we're less likely to put up with it.

Honestly if there wasn't a flavor-of-the-month forum pop up every other week, the Star Wars community would be better off as a whole.  Scum's got their crowd but just because your'e disgruntled with a forum doesn't mean it's really a good idea to piss away the bandwidth by starting another. 

Part of me thinks some places do it just so they can ask Hasbro what they think is a valuable question that week...

That's my $.02 on it though...  I say if people are getting canned there, jump ship if you're not happy.  Some folks like it because they need that many people to read what they have to say.  Some people stay because it's just more aimed at their posting style.  To each their own.

I will say, they've banned many folks for no really legitimate reason over time, and they've let many trolls and general peckerheads go without even a slap on the wrist.  It's an bass ackwards way of running things, but that's their gig.

Free Cable!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: TheWildWombat on August 10, 2008, 10:10 AM
I did say good riddance "for the most part."  I have my own issues with RS but when they do finally crack down on those that take away from the community there I'm in full support.

I know that some of the JD guys got banned, at one time, for just being members here and it wasn't for anything they personally did.  I know someone who got banned for something he wrote on his own web site, being critical of an RS employee, which was completely uncalled for.  But I'm not going to feel sorry for anyone that gets booted, from any site, that deserves it.  If you didn't, take it up with the mods over there, calling me out isn't going to help your case.

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But thats the point most of us if any of us didnt deserve it, yes I can understand a slap on the wrist and be told to knock it off, for what ever we did, but we didnt get told what we did, we were just banned outright, and even now I still dont know what I did.

And for those who dont know the story.

The story starts with Grak; a smug, self-righteous, arrogant punk. He joined in April, and already has a Grand Moff ranking. That means he posted more than 1,000 times, at least.

He's been wishing to cause trouble for the 365th, and in doing so, gained a bleak view of what we do. He claims we troll forums and just do stuff to be funny and arrogant at the same time, which is not true.

Well, he and Devo73 got in a little argument, which Curto stepped in to solve, and had under control. But, Dustin came in five posts later and banned both members for a week.

Grak, "fed up" with us, starts to report threads, pretending to be a victim of our "attacks." In the Modern Classifieds threads, he posted a forum trying to be a Mod wanna-be. The thread was met with less than enthusiastic responses and with a ban for Hrvat, which was uncalled for.

Then in the Feedback section he posts ways to improve the Classifieds. Go figure. Well, Hrvat, with all good intentions, asks Dustin to check out the situation with Grak over at RS. Grak, with his "two sides to every story" spiel, brings Dustin over to Bantha Skull.

He and the Ohio Star Wars Collector's Club have had some awful experiences, which has caused some, colorful names from these former members. Dustin, seeing these names, bans all of the Bantha Skullers who have accounts on Rebelscum with the same name.

E-mail attempts to Phillip were for naught, as he sent out a generic e-mail, claiming that the "upstanding" members of the society of RS would not stand for our behaivor, and that if he cast a wide net and caught some innocents, too bad. Turns out they did stand for us. He also claimed to file a police report if he sees more of this. So, all in all, 20 members were outright deleted from the members list, while some members remained. These members have brought this to light to other upstanding members, and they were outraged.

In an attempt to cover up the situation, Dustin has deleted the threads named, "The Little Things That Irritate You v9," "What's Wrong with Star Wars in 2008 v3" and "Banthaskull.com", along with bans to several additional members whom, on the RS threads, continued to question the draconian response by the Rebelscum leadership.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 10, 2008, 01:41 PM
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Well, he and Devo73 got in a little argument, which Curto stepped in to solve, and had under control. But, Dustin came in five posts later and banned both members for a week.

No ****?  Devo73 was involved in a drama queen moment at a forum that resulted in some kind of punishment?  No way?  Get the torches and pitchforks.  ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: TheWildWombat on August 10, 2008, 02:15 PM
I see we only care what happens to our own in here, hmmmmmmm, oh well.

And heres me thinking that you might have been interested you know, seeing RS done a similair thing to some of your members as well.

Just shows you how much this little hobby is actually closed off, from each other.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 10, 2008, 03:09 PM
I read the thread on BanthaSkull and followed some of the threads on RS just to see exatly what happened.  But then I discovered that according to the BanthaSkull guys I'm an internet ******bag, falling into the same category with Dustin and Wise.  So there went any sympathy that reading those threads had built up in favor of the BS guys.

My only disappointment in all this is that you guys couldn't have found a way to take TK421 (Gil) with you.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 10, 2008, 07:41 PM
I wouldn't say we care about only who is in here.  Anyone is welcome to join if they're going to be a good addition to the site.  We welcome anyone that wants to join and be a part of things in here though...

We've basically dropped out of the Scum stuff though.  Sure we had people banned randomly, and sorta similar, but not under similar circumstances if I've heard everything correctly.  We tried rational dialogue with Philip Wise and got met with his irrational behavior.  From what I gathered, Banthaskull was making a concerted effort to derail, screw up, and generally mess with the boards there through sock accounts and whatnot.  That's not the same thing really then.

And ultimately, rational or irrational, you'll get the same response from Wise...  Take it from the group that indeed tried to open a rational debate on some issues, and got met with a childish reaction in turn.  Or if you don't want our opinion, ask Bill Cable what kind of backlash you get for doing something they consider out of bounds.  I'm sure he can enlighten you.

Anyone who will be a good member is welcome to join though, and bail on their boards.  Why try to change a forum run by people you don't like though?  Just leave and get a new home for yourself.  You'll be better off in the long run.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediDre on August 10, 2008, 09:04 PM
First, Efranks, I call bull **** on you.  You said you read the thread on Bantha Skull?  Are you a member there?  That's the only way you could have seen said thread.  It's in a private area for members only.  How do I know this?  DarthDre758, creator and Admin  of Bantha Skull at your service. 

Second, I'd like to clear up a few things.

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From what I gathered, Banthaskull was making a concerted effort to derail, screw up, and generally mess with the boards there through sock accounts and whatnot.

Wrong.  We never used sock accounts.  We aren't afraid to show our faces.  We would post what we did, where we did with our own screen names.  We didn't get together and decide what thread to screw up that day.  Stupid redundent threads would pop up usually made by noobs that would start off by saying, 'I know this is in the wrong spot but...' and we just got tired of it.  We didn't mean harm, and we actually had rules.  #1 being meaningful threads are left alone.

When I started the web boards for the fighting 365th, it was so we could have a place to hang out with out being reprimanded for talking about things that weren't on topic.  It was our own place.  And we felt we could take it to the next level.  Bantha Skull was born.  Thread derailing was at the bottom of the bag at that point.  We got on board with the Hasbro Q&A, and started regular weekly articles.

I also want it to be known that we NEVER would advertize for our web site on Rebel Scum, Jedi Defender (I think I'm the only BS member on here) Galactic Hunter or any other web board in threads.  It's not right, and we don't condone it at all. 

You got the general story about what happened.  It doesn't all surround Devo, but it does have a lot to do with the member Grak.  He joined our site under a different name, converterlurker, and quickly had his identity outed.  He admited on Bantha Skull to trolling and baiting Rebelscum members, specifically our members who were still active at the time on there.  After being told where to go by Bantha Skull members, he went back to RS and told Dustin Roberts his side of the story.  Dustin shorly there after joined Bantha Skull.  45 minutes later, 10-12 Bantha Skull members were banned from Rebelscum, with no explanation.  Even when emails were sent to Dustin, questioning as to why we were banned, there was no response.  When emails were sent to Phillip Wise, the same cut and paste response was sent to each inquiring member.  When it was questioned as to why members were removed from the boards at Rebel Scum, every trace was deleted.  Three threads worth.

We at Bantha Skull see it as one of the best things that has happened to us.  Our membership is up(31 members since 8/8/08) and continuing to rise as I write this.  We have cut ties with Rebel Scum, and have become our own entity, relying on our own sources for information.

I'm not digging for sympathy.  No, no.  What I'm attempting to do is get ALL the information out to the posting public.  Something Phillip Wise seems to avoid doing on his site.

Thanks for reading.


Dre
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: RebelTrooper758 on August 10, 2008, 09:27 PM
From what I gathered, Banthaskull was making a concerted effort to derail, screw up, and generally mess with the boards there through sock accounts and whatnot.  That's not the same thing really then.

You gathered that from Phillip, I can tell. The point of Bantha Skull was NOT, in fact, to screw up Rebelscum. They took pride in the fact that they could help police the forums when the Notify Moderator button was taking too long. No one used a sock account, just like JediDre said. I give them credit with the fact that they had the guts to do it in public. They never de-railed an important thread, just like "Where is the TRU Exclusive Y-Wing sold?"

So please, I don't blame you, but unless you know the whole story, don't spread this around. Please investigate on your own before their reputation is tarnished!

Now, to Hasbro forums...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 10, 2008, 11:03 PM
First, Efranks, I call bull **** on you.  You said you read the thread on Bantha Skull?  Are you a member there?  That's the only way you could have seen said thread.  It's in a private area for members only.  How do I know this?  DarthDre758, creator and Admin  of Bantha Skull at your service.

How else would I know you guys called me a doucebag, in more than one thread I might add, going as far as to post my userid and RS avatar in a thread which actually LISTED who you guys were calling out? 

And yes, I read through all 2,000+ posts in the thread talking about the survivors of the 8/8/8 board purge.  I did this because, if you read my previous post, I said I had some reading to do.  That reading was figuring out what happend.  Grak is a piece of ****, I agree with you, and I was even starting to come around to your side till I found out I was such an ******* in your (that's the collective "your") opinion.  That's when I decided I didn't really need to be on your side.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on August 10, 2008, 11:05 PM
I wouldn't say we care about only who is in here.  Anyone is welcome to join if they're going to be a good addition to the site.  We welcome anyone that wants to join and be a part of things in here though...

We've basically dropped out of the Scum stuff though.  Sure we had people banned randomly, and sorta similar, but not under similar circumstances if I've heard everything correctly.  We tried rational dialogue with Philip Wise and got met with his irrational behavior.  From what I gathered, Banthaskull was making a concerted effort to derail, screw up, and generally mess with the boards there through sock accounts and whatnot.  That's not the same thing really then.

And ultimately, rational or irrational, you'll get the same response from Wise...  Take it from the group that indeed tried to open a rational debate on some issues, and got met with a childish reaction in turn.  Or if you don't want our opinion, ask Bill Cable what kind of backlash you get for doing something they consider out of bounds.  I'm sure he can enlighten you.

Anyone who will be a good member is welcome to join though, and bail on their boards.  Why try to change a forum run by people you don't like though?  Just leave and get a new home for yourself.  You'll be better off in the long run.


I'll try to respond as best I can...

As a member of Jedi Defender, Bantha Skull, and previously Rebel ***, I've come to appreciate finer points of each site.
Jedi Defender has the greatest serious talk about the hobby plus other stuff (movies, other toys, and politics... even if I don't post much in the Pit, it's still fun to read.)
Bantha Skull has the best laid back chat... plus it was always nice to rant about the happenings on the 'Scum and just the hobby in general. It's almost like talking with friends at school... (Of course in school my friends don't have a love for Star Wars)
Two things I liked about Scum... high traffic and the NC Finds thread. The high traffic led to the ability to read through many opinions (although many were the same or unable to be read) and made selling stuff very easy. Wider audience and all that mess. Plus many the North Carolina collectors seemed to flock there at one point or another.


In any case, what's done is done. I'd hate for there to be a hatred/competition between Jedi Defender and Bantha Skull due to me bringing this up. I've made it clear at BS that I'm a member of these forums... and I've made it clear here that I'm a member of Bantha Skull. Anyone is welcome to join either site, and I'd be happy to help break the new guys in on either forum.

Even though BS may seem like it was started to instigate at Scum, the founders only began to de-rail threads due to the poor moderating on Scum. (especially in the Hasbro sections) This is something never seen on Jedi Defender because the Mod/Admin staff is top notch.

Now, I'd hate to be torn between my memberships at BS and here at JD. I request that if you guys here have issues with any/some/all BS members, either recent or from several years back, if you could be the bigger people and bury the hatchet I'd appreciate it. I'm not asking you to join BS or I leave (I don't think you'd care, anyway) but I'd just like you to keep the insults and such to yourself. I feel that members of both communities have good things they could bring to the table at the other.

efranks, I'm unsure of where you've been insulted on BS. I have no beef with you, and I'm sure many members of BS don't either. In any case, don't get too riled up over it because sometimes people need to vent...

Lastly, I'm not trying to advertise BS or anything, but ya'll are more than welcome to join. We could use some more opinions in the discussions, even if it's only for a short time while you folks test the waters of something new. I'd be happy to work to patch up any qualms between members.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on August 10, 2008, 11:15 PM
As lJesse already said, as long as you bring something to the table here, we will welcome each and every BanthaSkull and banned RS member.  I got banned for no reason almost 3 years ago, I was probably in the top 3 for post counts at the time, since then the quality has gone from **** to cesspool and continues to grow worse...sucks to see the biggest egos of the net continue to screw over their membership and continue to make money off everyone...Grandpa Wise, Dave M. Myatt, Dustin, Greggers, Suckssince2007 etc etc they all grate me the wrong way and it irritates me that they are viewed as the #1 spot for Star Wars collecting news (notice the exception of Curto who I feel is top notch)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 11, 2008, 02:29 AM
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Even though BS may seem like it was started to instigate at Scum, the founders only began to de-rail threads due to the poor moderating on Scum. (especially in the Hasbro sections) This is something never seen on Jedi Defender because the Mod/Admin staff is top notch.

There is what I was basically replying to though, as I really don't know much of anything else that went on, and haven't heard anything from the Scum POV (I was given a very loose breakdown by a 3rd party)...  I've certainly not talked to Philip Wise about this. ;) 

The consistancy I see though is that there were attempts to disrupt threads at Scum, and I'm not even judging WHY you did that or what/who it was against...  Believe me, I'm sure there is a pile of dumb posted over there daily.  Their moderation is terrible...  They really put it on the downhill track when they made a guy that basically created the art of post-padding a moderator.  The forums are a mess and I guess you can't even start threads there anymore without running it past one of the power-trippers?  But basically you're gonna piss off any staff if you try to take it into your own hands to police their forum.  And to that end I cannot blame Scum if that was really becoming some kind of a problem over there.  That doesn't mean they don't suck either, but I'm just sayin' why bother trying to change a place run by other people, who you know won't do what you want them to?

That said...  Scott's 100% right.  You're preaching to the choir about Rebelscum over here...  Besides Curto and Shane, I either don't generally care for or don't know their staff to have an opinion.  From the clearly "bought" Fan Club presidency, to the screwing over of the BHC, you won't find many fans of the site aorund here...  And everyone's welcome to sign up here if they're going to be cool members and add to our community.  Love to hear from new folks who want to join in.

Will the thing with Scum ever be resolved?  Don't count on it...  Like I said, we tried to actually be rational with them and discuss the issues, and it resulted in pretty much the same thing you guys are seeing now...  Lots of bannings, many that were completely unwarranted, and people happily leaving to find a new home.  You're at least among like-minded company here for the most part.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on August 11, 2008, 02:33 AM
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The forums are a mess and I guess you can't even start threads there anymore without running it past one of the power-trippers? 

Ironically enough, members cannot start threads in the two big Hasbro forums. (Legacy and Clone Wars)

That was one helluva good guess on your part.  ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 11, 2008, 02:39 AM
I think it's been discussed in here recently...  Somewhere.  It's dumb, but I imagine it was some attempt to curtail the dumbass posts you guys were complaining about too...  It's still dumb.  I'm more a fan of banning stupidity than just tolerating it.

EDIT:  Yeah it was a few pages back the whole, "Only staff can start threads" thing came up I think.  A quick way to basically kill the supposed "fun" in talking about toys, but hey whatever it takes to control the group home I guess.   ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 11, 2008, 03:05 AM
What is "Bantha Skull"? :-*
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 11, 2008, 10:08 AM
bantha skull  :-* (http://www.banthaskull.com)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on August 11, 2008, 09:48 PM
BTW Bantha Skull members, you are not the first site or forum where you can say

****
Piss
****
****
****sucker
************
knockers

If you can't read those, turn your cuss filter off, **** knob
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 11, 2008, 10:02 PM
Oh. Another new Star Wars collecting site. Hasbro's really letting just anyone submit stuff to the Q & A anymore. That's cool of them, I guess.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 11, 2008, 10:29 PM
I should get in on that Q&A thing then.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on August 11, 2008, 10:57 PM
Wow -- I feel like I'm somebody now.  I've been banned from BanthaSkull.com  ???
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 11, 2008, 11:03 PM
 ??? say what?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediDre on August 11, 2008, 11:13 PM
Wow -- I feel like I'm somebody now.  I've been banned from BanthaSkull.com  ???

For some reason, I doubt you have been banned.  We've only banned four people, ever.  One being Mr Grak.

PM and let me know if you're having problems signing in over there.



Dre
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on August 11, 2008, 11:51 PM
Hey guys, it's the internet.

******* relax.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 11, 2008, 11:59 PM
That just might be crazy enough to work :o
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on August 12, 2008, 12:08 AM
Hey guys, it's the internet.

******* relax.

I could, but it's a real pain. Especially when I go swimming in the ocean. Then sand and stuff gets lodged up in there and I'm itchy down south for hours. Takes me many more hours on top of that to clean both the swim suit itself and my nether regions. Stupid internetting.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 12, 2008, 12:35 AM
Wow -- I feel like I'm somebody now.  I've been banned from BanthaSkull.com  ???

You've been pOwned!!!!1111
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 12, 2008, 07:26 AM
Forgive our indifference and lack of sympathy, but we've seen this movie, too - over five years ago. For some of us, who have been around since the BHC days, you'd have to have a really sensational story to shock or surprise us with any Rebelscum antics, because we've kind of been there, done that, and gotten over it.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on August 12, 2008, 09:49 AM
Wow! Has it really been five years? Time sure flys.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 12, 2008, 09:55 AM
Their forums are **** anyway - you should be happy you can't participate.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on August 12, 2008, 10:59 AM
Their forums are **** anyway - you should be happy you can't participate.

Ever the contrarian....at least there's some activity with respect to Gentle Giant and other higher end stuff.  It's pretty lonely around here and I have to admit to going back there to read about that stuff.  Mind you some of that is pretty grating as well. 

That said the last time I posted at Scum, about four years ago I got berated by some guy in a thread about deleting inactive members which I took exception to.  He'd been registered for a couple of months and had more posts than I'd managed there in about 5 years.  Sigh. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 12, 2008, 01:35 PM
He'd been registered for a couple of months and had more posts than I'd managed there in about 5 years.  Sigh. 

Sounds like Grak :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 12, 2008, 02:10 PM
Sounds like a lot of young immature tools.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on August 12, 2008, 08:52 PM
He'd been registered for a couple of months and had more posts than I'd managed there in about 5 years.  Sigh. 

Funny, everytime someone bumps this thread and mentions the newbs and their insane post counts I'm reminded of how I had 3000 posts there my first year, whereas in 5 years of posting here at JD I've racked up... 2700? And my posts here are longer and more thought out (YMMV  ;)) than they were at RS. Just goes to show you that quantity ISN'T quality.

Also I second the "I still visit RS for one particular forum", I go back there for the Local Finds section, which is pretty much dead here unless you live in Minnesota or Los Angeles. :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on August 13, 2008, 09:24 AM
Their forums are **** anyway - you should be happy you can't participate.

Ever the contrarian....at least there's some activity with respect to Gentle Giant and other higher end stuff. 


I'll give you that - the vintage section isn't too bad either.  It's really the modern sections and Wuher's that are nothing but a cess pool mess of topics and posts.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: RebelTrooper758 on August 15, 2008, 09:36 PM
Waste of bandwidth? Just to get into the Q&A? People could say that about Jedi Defender. Every site has to start somewhere. Unless this site started on top.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 16, 2008, 10:52 AM
We started when there was still the posibility of market share and something new to deliver.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2008, 04:01 AM
****, I missed some fun RS drama.  Been a while, but I want to play too (albeit late to the party, as usual)...

You gathered that from Phillip, I can tell.

Yes, exactly.  We are all very close, personal friends with Phillip here at JD.  Hell, Phillip pretty much created JD, for all intents and purposes.  So please don't ever question the legitimacy of information we gather from our pal Pappy.  Unfortunately, I don't have time to dig through 250+ pages to find "the picture" to further illustrate our close kinship with him to you, but hopefully someone can dig up that great money shot of us from C3 that Jamie took (or was it Jason?).  Classic.  Still have that bag full of pins Pappy gave me too!

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The point of Bantha Skull was NOT, in fact, to screw up Rebelscum. They took pride in the fact that...

So please, I don't blame you, but unless you know the whole story, don't spread this around. Please investigate on your own before their reputation is tarnished!

Wrong.
Dre

Indeed. (http://banthaskull.com/index.php/page/sub/aboutus/)  About us:

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Welcome to BanthaSkull.com, the official secret hideout of the 365th Lockdown Brigade. We are a merry group of Star Wars fans who share a few things in common. Our most binding characteristic is that we loved to derail those asinine threads that pop up on the big boards every hour...  Well, along the way we star(t)ed having more fun derailing threads than actually talking about Star Wars.

 ???

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We also had a hard time keeping things PG as you might guess from the banner.

Please.  As Scott already mentioned, that's so 2003. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3080.0)

       
         Wow -- I feel like I'm somebody now.  I've been banned from BanthaSkull.com  ???

For some reason, I doubt you have been banned.  We've only banned four people, ever.

Don't be so sure there, Dre.  Tracy's one helluva troublemaker.  We've had numerous discussions here about potentially banning her from JD, but have ultimately decided to keep her around in case any of us run for president and need to pick her up (quick) as a VP running mate.  It's either her or Beth - take your pick.  Plus, Kevin said she's a great pole dancer.  Or lap dancer.  Or was it lap dancee?  Hell, I don't remember now.  Anyway, she's definitely trouble, so I'd say that was a good call with the pre-emptive strike on her at BS.  You'll be saving yourself from some serious headaches in the future, trust me.

I'm not even going to bother with my thoughts on the most obvious comment (or two) in the prior several pages of this thread, other than to say DUH.  Welcome to the Internet.  God, I feel old.

- M
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2008, 04:15 AM
Ah, yes - here we go.  Star Wars is Friends Forever.

But Christ almighty, why didn't one of you ******** tell me to suck my gut in?!  I've never seen myself look like that, you dicks (who were in attendance).  I really wish someone would spring for some teeth for the old man though.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/cberry/images/friendsforever.jpg)

Berry's shining moment.  8)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on August 30, 2008, 08:22 AM
Aw, fer cryin' out loud Colman...you ought to come around more often.

You're not half bad.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on August 30, 2008, 06:33 PM
Man, I look young there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on August 30, 2008, 07:31 PM
Anybody would if they were also standing next to a mummy.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on August 31, 2008, 01:47 AM
Reading the recent activity of this thread has reminded me: I've been banned from the RS forums for 4 years. Amazing.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: RebelTrooper758 on September 26, 2008, 06:29 PM
I'm not quoting it because I have to leave soon, but please read the FULL About Us section instead of that tiny sniglet of it that makes us look bad. Read the full thing before making your descision.

The worst part about this is everyone isn't reading the whole About Us section, just that little part.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on September 26, 2008, 09:28 PM
I'm not quoting it because I have to leave soon, but please read the FULL About Us section instead of that tiny sniglet of it that makes us look bad. Read the full thing before making your descision.

The worst part about this is everyone isn't reading the whole About Us section, just that little part.

Stop spamming my forum.

Thanks.

<3
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2009, 10:22 PM
This was brought to my attention, and I thought it to be kind of funny.

It's sure one hell of a long and pointless pile of ****, to basically ask to be a mod on the Scum. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3811357&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=1#3811357)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on July 14, 2009, 11:05 PM
That poster is nothing short of a total tool. He was stirring up trouble between RS and the second site in my sig waaaayyy back last year... basically sock accounts and stuff like that.

I go over to scum for the CTR section and customs/dioramas, and since last year this "Blight" character has been sucking RS dicks as hard as he can... I'd bet good money he could suck a golf ball through a garden hose without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on July 15, 2009, 01:41 AM
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Loc: James Sprunt Community Collage

All I had to read before I knew he was an idiot.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on July 15, 2009, 04:15 AM
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Loc: James Sprunt Community Collage

All I had to read before I knew he was an idiot.

What? I think it's nice that he's working with the community on a big collage.   ;)  I wonder if he's an Englitch Majer?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on September 22, 2009, 10:31 AM
Also I second the "I still visit RS for one particular forum", I go back there for the Local Finds section, which is pretty much dead here unless you live in Minnesota or Los Angeles. :)

Yeah, why is that? I have noticed it as well. Do all the Star Wars fans live in only those 2 states? I started a thread for VA and it is dying from neglect.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on September 22, 2009, 11:24 PM
Also I second the "I still visit RS for one particular forum", I go back there for the Local Finds section, which is pretty much dead here unless you live in Minnesota or Los Angeles. :)

Yeah, why is that? I have noticed it as well. Do all the Star Wars fans live in only those 2 states? I started a thread for VA and it is dying from neglect.

Our site doesn't have the massive fanbase as other sites do, but quality is where it counts.  Your VA thread is nice, but sadly - you're going to be replying to your self over and over again if that's what you want to keep doing which is fine.  Heck...Even the Socal threads dried up after Matt left us.

Move to Minnesota   ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 22, 2009, 11:57 PM
Or invite your VA friends over here.  :-X
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on September 23, 2009, 03:14 PM
Fair enough...it was more of a rhetorical complaint. The flip side of living in MINN would be all the increased competition looking for new stuff in the stores. It would be nice to be part of an actual SW community though.

I do like this site. I actually find it more robust than the other handful of sites I can access here at work.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on September 23, 2009, 03:48 PM
Fair enough...it was more of a rhetorical complaint. The flip side of living in MINN would be all the increased competition looking for new stuff in the stores. It would be nice to be part of an actual SW community though.

I do like this site. I actually find it more robust than the other handful of sites I can access here at work.

We generally don't compete with each other for the most part - it's more of a congrats to who scores what first.  We're good at helping each other out with pretty much any toy line that any of us are looking for which is pretty awesome.  Nice to have dozens of eyes out there at multiple stores so you don't have to go driving all over town.  I'm sure there's plenty of others just like you in VA that just aren't part of the online collecting community - or they just don't care to be.

Glad you like the site!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 23, 2009, 04:37 PM
I don't know what part of VA you're in but the DC Star Wars collecting society is a fairly big group I believe.  At least comparable to the PSWCS Bill Cable runs...  The problem then is, are they in your area or not, haha.  The Pittsburgh contingent is smaller than basically anywhere East of us.   :D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on September 23, 2009, 08:54 PM
...the PSWCS Bill Cable runs...

If by "runs" you mean "rules with an iron fist."  Forcing us into driving halfway across the state every couple of months, having to look through other people's collections, sell and trade toys, play games for prizes and eat food and endless snacks...   ;D

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Dave on September 23, 2009, 10:21 PM
Fair enough...it was more of a rhetorical complaint. The flip side of living in MINN would be all the increased competition looking for new stuff in the stores. It would be nice to be part of an actual SW community though.

I do like this site. I actually find it more robust than the other handful of sites I can access here at work.

We generally don't compete with each other for the most part - it's more of a congrats to who scores what first.  We're good at helping each other out with pretty much any toy line that any of us are looking for which is pretty awesome.  Nice to have dozens of eyes out there at multiple stores so you don't have to go driving all over town.  I'm sure there's plenty of others just like you in VA that just aren't part of the online collecting community - or they just don't care to be.

Glad you like the site!


Agreed.  Mike and I shop at the same store(s) in MN and frequently help each other find stuff, as well as the rest of the crew.  There are more than enough toys to go around.  If it weren't for the MN crew I would have spent significantly more money on my collection over the years.  Since I joined the MN crew a few years back I haven't had to make a purchase on eBay to fill a hole in my collection due to a hard to figure or exclusive.  I did the same thing when I lived in Kansas City.  Hopefully you find a VA crew to help you as well.  Makes collecting much easier.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on September 23, 2009, 10:22 PM
You're all welcome to drive to MN and hang with us once a month.   ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 24, 2009, 12:19 AM
...the PSWCS Bill Cable runs...

If by "runs" you mean "rules with an iron fist."  Forcing us into driving halfway across the state every couple of months, having to look through other people's collections, sell and trade toys, play games for prizes and eat food and endless snacks...   ;D

   E...

I meant "runs", like in the, "he punches babies and scalps ****" kind of context, but yeah.

j/k of course...  at least about the scalping part.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on September 24, 2009, 07:37 AM
I don't punch babies... I slap hos.

DCSWCC is a great group.  The prez just sent out a press release, and right now they have almost 60 dues-paying members.

PSWCS has almost 370.  Not bragging, just saying.  We're helped by not having dues.  Maybe 20% of our members would qualify as "active."
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on September 24, 2009, 11:59 PM
Why do members of the DCSWCC pay dues?

And who deactivated 80% of the PSWCS?   :o

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2009, 12:14 AM
I'm guessing themselves.  I'm not the most vocal but I'm a member and more of a lurker/reader.  My activity isn't huge, but I try to make the Summer Social when it's out this way, and I try to be active with the group's promotion and things locally.

My status as an active member is so-so since I'm not talkative on the list then.  I try to do my bit other ways though, especially when there is a booth during the Toy Show out here and such.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on September 25, 2009, 01:08 AM
Why do members of the DCSWCC pay dues?

And who deactivated 80% of the PSWCS?   :o

I think the Ohio club charges dues also.  PSWCS is pretty laid back.  We've managed to raise the funds to run the club through fund raisers rather than dues so we haven't really needed them.

Most of the people on the PSWCS listserve don't post but I see names pop up when we do fundraisers or sell Tshirts or the Operation Ward 57 medallion this year.  I think they mostly use the list as a source of info on when toys are hitting and where, info on sales and that sort of thing. 

But honestly, I really don't know what most of the lurkers get out of it.  It's attending the meetings and the social or going to events that make the club what it is IMO. 

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2009, 02:50 AM
Yeah, the meetings make the group...  The Pittsburghers are few and our meetings are more sporadic and usually limited to our local toy show, but we have  a good show for get-togethers so that's always a plus for us.  Most of us just do a casual meeting locally we plan here if we're going to do one... 

I try to recruit locally as best I can, but I honestly rarely run into another adult around Pittsburgh looking for toys that I don't already know.  I know a couple guys who scalp, so they're not ideal candidates in the organization or I'd probably ask them...  One guy I know knows of the PA group but had this vehement argument as to why he can't be part of an organization that won't let him make cash off the things he finds and things, and how he'd be a big help to everyone in the area...  I didn't argue with him, just kinda said how the group's pretty casual and just a fun bunch...  I got nowhere, which made me think he maybe tried signing up at one time and it didn't go well.

Part of the Pittsburgh area's problems though are the hardcore guys have dropped out of the hobby.  Hasbro's made some so angry they just quit.  Tough to blame them.  I'm glad they try to hang out at the meetings though, and get together.  Hell, Bill F. and I made our trip to the Winter Classic and I wouldn't have done that without meeting him through the group...  I've been fortunate to make a lot of friends through the PSWCS.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 25, 2009, 10:52 AM

PSWCS has almost 370.  Not bragging, just saying.  We're helped by not having dues.  Maybe 20% of our members would qualify as "active."

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... You mean to tell me that, not only do we share a birthday, but we're both from Pennsylvania as well?   :o
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 26, 2009, 12:30 AM
You didn't know Cable's from PA?  He's shameless with whoring the PSWCS!  :-X   :-*
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2009, 03:21 AM
This is some funny stuff. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3995395&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=1#3995395)  It made me feel like it was 5 or 6 or 9 or whatever many years ago that everyone that used to hang at CSW made the mass exodus from the hostile take-over.

Let me preserve the post that kicked off the above linked thread though because inevitably Greg(g) will remove it I think.

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TV's or Television?

So what are your thoughts, is it a TV or a Television?

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GNT wrote:
As your probably aware it's the same thing just like Television vs TV. This thread is pointless and it appears your looking for trouble, if you want to be banned let me know and I can take care of it in a minute or two. 

As for fun your allowed to have fun here provided it's not useless, looking for trouble isn't a good start to a thread.

Ok, back up your words you thread locking Modzi. Ban me. If we can't have fun on this forum then there's no use for it. You lock so many threads it makes my head hurt, it's about time someone called you out. I for one won't back down.

Not to usurp Mojorisin's calling him out either, but many have called Greg(g) out on his rampant stupid locking of posts, and his rampant stupidity in general over there. :)  And most of us were banned at some point for it.  It's nice to see he's getting his balls busted currently by someone there though.  Most guys just seem to kiss-ass in hopes of getting a "job" preserving the sancticty of...  well...  basically nothing.

I still can't get over that they "hired" a post-padder to do their mod-work though simply because he was on there 24/7 and nobody else wanted to really do it at the time.  The irony there never ceases to amaze me, even to this day.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2009, 03:25 AM
This nugget's brilliant:

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I remember when DiFabio(RIP) decided to go this route, with forum suicide. Sometimes, you gotta understand their position. GNT is hella cool, and deserves much more respect than you know. Moderating is a very tough job, especially is the cantina. Dude, if I were you, I'd delete my posts with a quickness.
All I can see is 'Dead Man Walking' flashbacks. I know that you say you don't care, and all, but Scum will leave a hole that no other forum can fill.
RIP, Mr_MojoRisin.

Yes, moderating a forum's so hard people do it for free, in their spare time...  Truly difficult.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on November 22, 2009, 02:28 PM
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What they need to do is enforce the rule about people who only post in Wuher's. I come here sometimes and some of the off topic threads are interesting but I am here primarily to talk about Star Wars. If people no longer contribute in any way to a Star Wars related thread they should asked to leave. Just my opinion...


Really??  That's a rule?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on November 23, 2009, 01:46 AM
I don't know that to be true, but I could easily see it having been conjured up there out of some mod's ass to change the game as they see fit.  Not unheard of by any means. 

I guess some guys have gotten irate that some people don't post in the SW sections then?  That's funny.  Considering you're not allowed to start topics and actual conversation is stifled because the general membership is fool of doorknobs and ********, can they really expect the participation by some members to climb upward? 

When I got linked to that thread I decided to wander around, and it was the status quo all around...  People fighting, people just simply hurling insults, and I guess the guys getting threatened with a ban are the ones deemed "wasting time" or whatever.  Talk about having your priorities mixed up.  They'd do well to trim the membership by about 50%.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Neal on November 23, 2009, 09:49 AM
I don't know that to be true, but I could easily see it having been conjured up there out of some mod's ass to change the game as they see fit.  Not unheard of by any means. 

It's the first rule listed in the Forum Rules section:

Who The Forum Is For: This is a forum for discussing Star Wars collecting and all other things about Star Wars. As such, members are expected to primarily contribute to these topics. If you or we find you are primarily posting in the off-topic areas of the board, you should not be surprised if we ask you to discontinue posting.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on November 23, 2009, 10:10 AM
I don't know that to be true, but I could easily see it having been conjured up there out of some mod's ass to change the game as they see fit.  Not unheard of by any means. 

It's the first rule listed in the Forum Rules section:

Who The Forum Is For: This is a forum for discussing Star Wars collecting and all other things about Star Wars. As such, members are expected to primarily contribute to these topics. If you or we find you are primarily posting in the off-topic areas of the board, you should not be surprised if we ask you to discontinue posting.

Interesting.  I've mentioned it before but I recall a thread there whereby one of the newer and more frequent posters at the time suggested deleting accounts of people that don't post "frequently enough".  I took exception at the time given I'd been a 'Scum member for about six years longer than that guy (and had a fraction of the posts, of course) but thankfully the staff squashed the notion. 

I think the rule is sillly given people's interests evolve over time.  When I joined here I was all about Hasbro primarily and fairly active in those threads.  Now I primarily collect "other collectibles" and Kubricks/vintage stuff but given I'm up to date on most of it, don't post in there that frequently.  I'd think were JD using the rules Scum has in place I might be asked to leave for lack of contribution to Star Warsy threads.  Given I haven't been and I'm not completely annoying might be an explanation why I haven't posted at Scum in years other than to try and sell something on their b/s/t forum and even that was a failure. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: IncomT65 on November 23, 2009, 04:53 PM
Heck, didn't even know there was a thread about RS! Guess I should visit the non-SW discussion section here more often, eh?

Anyway, I'm mostly at RS for the customs and fellow scummer (and Defender, too!) Daigo_Bah does one helluva job making thread indexes on dioramas, vehicles and figures. Crap, I really should get back helping him out with the latter  :-\

Censorship is pretty hard there. Can't even say "balls" there! And when I started a thread about a wonderful 6-part NatGeo WW2 documentary called "Apocalypse" I got a mod's PM within 5 minutes saying he removed it  :o Hmph....

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 24, 2009, 06:07 AM
I'm not completely annoying

 :-X
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on November 24, 2009, 10:07 AM

Censorship is pretty hard there. Can't even say "balls" there! And when I started a thread about a wonderful 6-part NatGeo WW2 documentary called "Apocalypse" I got a mod's PM within 5 minutes saying he removed it  :o Hmph....

That's just crazy. I'm glad I don't go there. Maybe the mod didn't know what the word "Apocalypse" ment?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on November 24, 2009, 10:09 AM
It's obviously a religious reference...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: IncomT65 on November 24, 2009, 01:45 PM
Nah, nothing of the sort. RS just has this rule: no topics on politics, religion and/or war. But my intention was to address this awesome documentary of mostly never before seen footage of the time, colourized by a French company. So my topic wasn't so much about the war, but more so about the documentary and the enormous task of making it. It didn't look corny or cheesy at all, but quite real, as if it was all recorded in colour.

Ah well, I guess RS is more your typical conventional US SW site, eh? But what'd you expect from a Dutch guy like me?  ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2009, 03:37 PM
Wow, well when I signed up to CSW many moons ago, there was no "first rule" where if you don't post in the SW sections, you'll be asked to leave.  That's a new change they've made I'd say.

Talk about lame...  Like Brent said, your life changes...  Your interests change with it.  Do you really want to stifle the people who've made friends and possibly want to stay on to just chat about the every day?  I find that very sad I guess.  It really limits the possibilities of people making and keeping some friendships there. 

Like I said, if they really wanted to make the place more friendly and stuff, look through the collecting areas and ban about 50% of the members there.  There's a couple tools there who insult people for being cheap, routinely.  So do something about it.  That's against the rules too.  But they're there and seemingly valued by the staff at times.

I've seen people who just don't like a particular member and then intentionally follow that member around insulting him.  Nothing clever or witty, just "You're an idiot" type remarks with nothing else.  They're still members though. 

But it's guys who don't leave Wuher's who will get banned?  That's just really a loss of priorities there.  Like I've always said though, GNT's their god of moderators though, and he was a post-padder...  so should we really expect any less then?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on November 24, 2009, 03:59 PM
I'm not sure if I've ever posted in any SW related forum on JD, and the posts outside of Watto's are very, very few and far between...one or two in the Sarlaac Pit, and one or two in sports.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Paul on November 24, 2009, 05:17 PM
Heck, didn't even know there was a thread about RS! Guess I should visit the non-SW discussion section here more often, eh?

Anyway, I'm mostly at RS for the customs and fellow scummer (and Defender, too!) Daigo_Bah does one helluva job making thread indexes on dioramas, vehicles and figures. Crap, I really should get back helping him out with the latter  :-\

Censorship is pretty hard there. Can't even say "balls" there! And when I started a thread about a wonderful 6-part NatGeo WW2 documentary called "Apocalypse" I got a mod's PM within 5 minutes saying he removed it  :o Hmph....



IncomT65  Start a thread here about it here in Watto's, I would love to see it and comment on it.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on November 25, 2009, 02:26 AM
Seconded, or slip it into the militaria thread, but I really dont' care, I'd like to see the series.  Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on February 11, 2010, 05:03 PM
So I'm just wondering something here; does anyone else find it somewhat hypocritical for RS to promote the "Collect to Collect" code of honor and disallow (as is standard) eBay auctions from the forums yet promote Cool Toy Review auctions on the front page?

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on February 11, 2010, 05:41 PM
Only people that pay Wise may advertise their auctions.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on February 11, 2010, 06:15 PM
So I'm just wondering something here; does anyone else find it somewhat hypocritical for RS to promote the "Collect to Collect" code of honor and disallow (as is standard) eBay auctions from the forums yet promote Cool Toy Review auctions on the front page?

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I don't know, but I wish I could get my hands on one of those rare Lt. Renz busts. Are they available yet?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Broem on February 12, 2010, 05:22 PM
So I'm just wondering something here; does anyone else find it somewhat hypocritical for RS to promote the "Collect to Collect" code of honor and disallow (as is standard) eBay auctions from the forums yet promote Cool Toy Review auctions on the front page?

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I don't know, but I wish I could get my hands on one of those rare Lt. Renz busts. Are they available yet?

Those are so hard to get.  They only have it on their front page 24-7, 365 days a year.  You really just have to hit it at the right time.  I gave up on it a long time ago  ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on February 12, 2010, 06:17 PM
Those are so hard to get.  They only have it on their front page 24-7, 365 days a year.  You really just have to hit it at the right time.  I gave up on it a long time ago  ;)

In all seriousness, it's been like a year and a half right?

I wonder how many are left.

I'd guess 1,000.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on February 13, 2010, 10:53 PM
I am just sad I paid full price for mine.  :-[  It is a nice enough bust, but oh that applied the same logic to that one that I do the rest of GG stuff. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on February 14, 2010, 12:03 AM
Same here...  I paid $60 plus tax, plus shipping.  Nearly $80.00.

Joke's on me.

A month after I bought mine they were available at the Dallas Sci Fi Expo for $50 flat and now they can't give them away.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediMoses on February 17, 2010, 01:50 AM
Maybe they should enlist Watto to dump the rest.  "I make you good deal"
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on February 17, 2010, 03:17 PM
Well, what did he expect?  It's a lame character that had no business being produced.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on February 17, 2010, 03:20 PM
They have had right close to 600 units for five months now...if you add 1000+ to your cart it will tell you their current stock
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on February 17, 2010, 03:32 PM
Well, what did he expect?  It's a lame character that had no business being produced.

I dunno, I think the specific character is lame.  I honestly have a hard time remembering his name.  But I'm not unhappy having a bust of a generic Imperial officer in my collection any more than I dislike having Tarkin in there as well.  I don't want a Death Star Bridge box set equivalent, but a black tunic'd officer is good by me.  I sure didn't need the sound chip and if the autographed card is still around, it's probably in the box. 

Probably should have put the production number at 1000 though. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on February 17, 2010, 05:28 PM
Same here...  I paid $60 plus tax, plus shipping.  Nearly $80.00.

Joke's on me.

A month after I bought mine they were available at the Dallas Sci Fi Expo for $50 flat and now they can't give them away.

Actually, they have given some away I believe.  We had a couple on the prize table at our summer social and RebelScum was a sponsor.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 17, 2010, 11:42 PM
We're in production of an ICMG Bust for our site too.  It's limited to 2, and Scott got both of them.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on February 17, 2010, 11:47 PM
They both sweet, too.  But they are taking up a lot of space in my garage, so they are for sale for half price.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Commander DiFabio on March 3, 2010, 10:14 PM
Wow, I happened to google my name and it directed me here. I completely forgot that I made an account on jedidefender. October 17, 2006, 06:10 PM? Man, time flies. So how are all the scummers on here doing?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on March 7, 2010, 08:55 AM
There are no scummers here.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on March 7, 2010, 09:19 AM
Wow, I happened to google my name and it directed me here. I completely forgot that I made an account on jedidefender. October 17, 2006, 06:10 PM? Man, time flies. So how are all the scummers on here doing?

What's a Scummer?  Never heard of them.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on March 7, 2010, 02:11 PM
I've seen Scum here, but no Scummers...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on March 28, 2010, 12:19 PM
601 busts still left...get one before they are gone!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2010, 01:42 PM
At this rate Lt. Renz will be their top-story for another 450 years.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 12, 2010, 09:53 PM
601 busts still left...get one before they are gone!
Oooh...we've cracked sub 600...down to 594.  7 gone in 15 days.  That means we can stop counting down in 1,273 days or so!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on April 12, 2010, 11:47 PM
Whoops!  I guess buying these things as gag gifts counts just as much as any other serious purchase does.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 12, 2010, 11:56 PM
Talk about a belated birthday present...thanks though...I can't wait "You Rebel scum!" 8)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on April 13, 2010, 12:20 AM
I bought one for every person I can't stand at JD.  Six more left!

(P.S.  Rob, I need your new address.  This is totally unrelated, by the way.)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 13, 2010, 12:50 AM
I bought one for every person I can't stand at JD.  Six more left!

(P.S.  Rob, I need your new address.  This is totally unrelated, by the way.)
That is awfully nice of you to ship one all the way to Denmark.  Henrik Wulff Rasmussen will be very pleased "You Rebel scum!" 8)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 13, 2010, 01:58 AM
Wondering why one of those ******' doorstops showed up at my house.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 22, 2010, 12:54 AM
I was just about ready to order 594 Busts for an art project I am working on titled "You Rebels ***" and I went to open the Rebelscum store...dead link :-[  I guess I'll have to use something else :-[
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 22, 2010, 12:56 AM
They'll be back.  There's just a mad rush on orders for them right now.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 22, 2010, 09:00 PM
****...I got on the store tonight and now there are only 593 Busts available.  How the hell am I going to do my 594 Imperial "You Rebels ***" Diorama featuring the artwork of Shabbyblue >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on May 1, 2010, 06:38 PM
SO now there are only 592 Busts left...using the latest pace of 2 sold every 20 days, they should all be gone by July 2026...get yours soon!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on May 1, 2010, 07:57 PM
I sure hope JD doesn't commit to this kind of failure someday.   ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on May 1, 2010, 08:21 PM
I hear there are five golden tickets randomly put into the remaining stock. If you get one, you get to tour Philip Wise's house!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ghost of QG on May 2, 2010, 12:07 AM
Can't wait to see where the bodies are hidden....
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on May 3, 2010, 02:13 PM
I sure hope JD doesn't commit to this kind of failure someday.   ;)

So does this mean that Willrow Hood, a random background character backed by JD and was predicted to lead to the death of Star Wars merchandise if he was ever made into a figure, is more popular than Lt. Renz, a random background character backed by and responsible for the creation of the most popular Star Wars collecting website of all time?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 3, 2010, 02:19 PM
I sure hope JD doesn't commit to this kind of failure someday.   ;)

So does this mean that Willrow Hood, a random background character backed by JD and was predicted to lead to the death of Star Wars merchandise if he was ever made into a figure, is more popular than Lt. Renz, a random background character backed by and responsible for the creation of the most popular Star Wars collecting website of all time?

Seems to me the $8 basic figure had a better chance than the expensive bust did. I'm no expert, but.......
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on May 3, 2010, 02:59 PM
I sure hope JD doesn't commit to this kind of failure someday.   ;)

So does this mean that Willrow Hood, a random background character backed by JD and was predicted to lead to the death of Star Wars merchandise if he was ever made into a figure, is more popular than Lt. Renz, a random background character backed by and responsible for the creation of the most popular Star Wars collecting website of all time?

Seems to me the $8 basic figure had a better chance than the expensive bust did. I'm no expert, but.......

I think that nails it on the head pretty well for the key difference.  Mind you I've spent just about as much on a certain basic figure as I did on a certain bust.  Wish I'd had the brains to wait for the clearance. :-[

That said, I'm still entertained by the notion that Diddly puts forward.   :D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on May 3, 2010, 04:50 PM
I understand the difference too, but let's just say that you can't find a Willrow anywhere, and certainly not on clearance. ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on May 3, 2010, 07:05 PM
OK, you guys caught us...

The Wilrow Hood Bust will be out next year, sold only through JD, and it'll be more than $8.  We expect it to blow the doors off Lt. Renz though.

Ours has sound as well, when you push a button on it.  It says, "Thanks Scott!", and that's it.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on May 3, 2010, 07:29 PM
Ours has sound as well, when you push a button on it.  It says, "Thanks Scott!", and that's it.

Sweet!  LOL - that was pretty funny JJ   ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on May 4, 2010, 10:07 AM
OK, you guys caught us...

The Wilrow Hood Bust will be out next year, sold only through JD, and it'll be more than $8.  We expect it to blow the doors off Lt. Renz though.

Ours has sound as well, when you push a button on it.  It says, "Thanks Scott!", and that's it.

I'd buy that for a dollar!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on May 5, 2010, 04:04 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/curto/TESB3D/ToppsTESB3D_Curto_Leia-Gown.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on May 5, 2010, 04:12 PM
There is a joke in there for CreatureCantina.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: R5Don4 on May 5, 2010, 08:24 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/curto/TESB3D/ToppsTESB3D_Curto_Leia-Gown.jpg)

Someone please explain to me why Dan Curto's art is part of an official trading card line?  This looks like a fifth grader drew it.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on May 5, 2010, 08:26 PM
Dan's worked at sketching/drawing since he was younger I think...  I recall him mentioning that to me at one point anyway, and it's something I think he's strived to do professionally.  I'm assuming he submitted his works to Topps and got picked up by them.

I'm no artist though to know what the process is though, not by a longshot.  I'm a stick figure kind of guy.  :-\
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on May 5, 2010, 08:40 PM
To be fair, some of his cards are pretty damn good. I suggest folks take a look at them. Yeah, this one is not the best, but it is a sketch after all. Some of the others from "pro" illustrators can hardly be called sketches.  :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on May 5, 2010, 09:00 PM
Yeah... some of his are good.  But this one... not the one I'd choose to post on the web.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on May 6, 2010, 05:26 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/curto/TESB3D/ToppsTESB3D_Curto_Leia-Gown.jpg)

Finally.  I've been seeing at bad Star Wars sketches for years waiting for something at least semi-decent to come along.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 7, 2010, 12:50 AM
Is it me or does she have Han Solo's face?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on May 7, 2010, 07:49 AM
I had the same initial reaction.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on May 7, 2010, 09:46 AM
...as did i
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Keonobi on May 7, 2010, 11:44 AM
i figured it was from the EU-book, Leia and her Acromegaly.   :-[
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on May 9, 2010, 02:18 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/curto/TESB3D/ToppsTESB3D_Curto_Leia-Gown.jpg)

Finally.  I've been seeing at bad Star Wars sketches for years waiting for something at least semi-decent to come along.

Topps doesn't actually pay for **** like that, do they?  Holy crap, I saw better work at my daughter's fourth grade art show.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on May 13, 2010, 10:06 AM
Oops, he forgot the moustache.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Broem on May 13, 2010, 12:40 PM
It's still leaps and bounds ahead of what I could do!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on May 13, 2010, 03:31 PM
Maybe it is a true depiction of Jaina Solo...she got a bit more of Han's DNA than Leia's.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on May 19, 2010, 11:06 AM
Sorry, but that guy's art just plain SUCKS. He is NOT good. Nothing against him personally, but what I've seen of his work is complete garbage.



Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on May 19, 2010, 12:03 PM
Maybe he just likes manly women...

(http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/news/images2010a/ToppsTESB3D_Curto_Leia-Hoth.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on May 19, 2010, 12:26 PM
That.....is ugly
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Keonobi on May 19, 2010, 01:09 PM
Is that Michael Corleone?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 19, 2010, 01:12 PM
Is that Michael Corleone?

The Hoth scene in "The Godfather Part 2" is so awesome.......
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: ruiner on May 19, 2010, 01:20 PM
Is that Reikan or Leia?

It's like one of the pictures where you can see one of two things depending on the angle.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on May 19, 2010, 01:29 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/6tivr5.jpg)

Sadly, all of Chazz Palminteri's scenes in The Empire Strikes Back were left on the cutting room floor.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on August 24, 2010, 10:44 AM
Found this picture over at RS. I wonder how many are still sitting in Wise's garage?

(http://www.rebelscum.com/C5/Philip/P8121026.JPG)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 24, 2010, 03:26 PM
Found this picture over at RS. I wonder how many are still sitting in Wise's garage?

I don't think any.  I believe he said in the forum thread he was bringing them all and selling them out for $10 each.  I'm pretty sure I heard that they sold out but I'm not 100% sure if that was just an allotment for the day or the whole run.  But for $10, I almost bought one.  But didn't.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 24, 2010, 03:38 PM
Quote
But for $10, I almost bought one.  But didn't.

And there-in lies the key.  :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 24, 2010, 07:21 PM
Yes.  That bust should never have had that type of production run in the first place.  It's a cool enough idea, but it's not really that exciting.  Besides, it doesn't fit with my slimmed down GG collection.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 24, 2010, 07:30 PM
I think I have a Tarkin bust...  literally, that's all I own from GG though.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on August 24, 2010, 07:36 PM
JD needs to sponsor an ICMG bust.  I'd buy 3.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 24, 2010, 07:53 PM
Only if he has a sound-chip that is voiced by Scott saying, "Suck it".  Otherwise I don't see how it works.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on August 24, 2010, 08:21 PM
All kiding aside, how hard would that be to do? A sponsered GG mini sculpt?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on August 24, 2010, 08:38 PM
You're probably looking at something like $50K.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on August 24, 2010, 09:24 PM
If you're going with professional everything I'm sure it's quite expensive.  If you know a sculptor willing to do that aspect of it, and someone capable of polystone casting, and someone capable of decorating them...  I'm sure you could get some for less.

To have it professionally done though (and that's not even counting licensing, obviously), I think Bill's estimate is even pretty conservative.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on August 25, 2010, 12:49 AM
aaaaactually..


see these?

(http://www.patchtogether.com/media/gallery/DEFAULT/GALLERY_880_4bb025d312492.jpeg)

(http://www.patchtogether.com/media/gallery/DEFAULT/GALLERY_543_4aaa6bdb694f4.jpeg)

They're 7 inch resin statues of characters from a webcomic I read called Shortpacked....it's about a toystore, and has lots of toy collecting humor...you should check it out....

but aside from that....The author of the comic submited the 2d artwork and Patch Together did the sculpt and final production.  They do it on a small batch....he just set a minimum of orders and votes on the Patch Together site he had to get before pulling the trigger and ordering them.  They were all presold before the work ever began on production, and he offered them for...I think under 40 bucks.

So if you could just get the licensing from Lucasfilm....possibly even for free?, you could possibly have a winner here.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on August 25, 2010, 01:09 PM
So Wise makes so much money off his site that he can convince GG to give him an exclusive? I wonder how that deal came off. His stupid little shop can't make that much money can it?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on August 25, 2010, 01:25 PM
Since PW tied it to Official Pix, he could probably write the whole thing off as a business/advertising expense.  :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 25, 2010, 04:05 PM
Apparently this sold out sometime Friday afternoon at CV, from what I'm reading on the RS forum.  I recall speaking with someone either late Friday or Saturday that told me that but I wasn't sure, as I said, if that was the run or just the daily allotment.  Seems it was the whole shooting match.

But for $10, ****, that's cheap.  I paid $10 for my official CV pin at the store.  :-\

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on August 26, 2010, 11:39 AM
I'm still waiting for my Rentz to morph into a six pack of them given what I paid.  I ain't holding my breath.  Hell, I'd be happy if it morphed into a six pack. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on August 31, 2010, 09:48 AM
Is it my imagination or is Wise starting to look like a Muppet?

(http://www.rebelscum.com/C5/Chris/P8121038.JPG)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 31, 2010, 09:50 AM
Don't they make shirts bigger than kids size small?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on August 31, 2010, 07:18 PM
Is the guy on the left kid Boba Fett?  Dude has some serious steroid-induced bitch knockers going on.  I've seen bovines with smaller nipples.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on August 31, 2010, 07:45 PM
I'm digging the fanny packs.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on August 31, 2010, 07:50 PM
Is the guy on the left kid Boba Fett?  Dude has some serious steroid-induced bitch knockers going on.  I've seen bovines with smaller nipples.
Daniel Logan?

I don't think so but I could be wrong.

(http://www2.mintinbox.net/site/reportages/cusset2009/images/0009_Daniel_Logan.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on August 31, 2010, 08:38 PM
I think those guys are from RS Mexico or Spain or something like that.  Daniel Logan isn't that jacked up, but the guy does sort of look like Daniel. 

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on August 31, 2010, 09:24 PM
What's the square looking thing underneath PW's shirt  ???  scary?  He certainly does have a muppity look about his face....
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on August 31, 2010, 09:34 PM
What's the square looking thing underneath PW's shirt  ???  scary?  He certainly does have a muppity look about his face....

It's his CV badges under his shirt.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on August 31, 2010, 10:24 PM
I thought that was his Darth Vader box
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on September 1, 2010, 07:00 AM
I just like how the guy on the left is staring right at you while the other two are looking at a different camera.  It seems it is more about the guy in the tight shirt than Yoda....err, I mean PW.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on September 2, 2010, 11:58 AM
I just like how the guy on the left is staring right at you while the other two are looking at a different camera.  It seems it is more about the guy in the tight shirt than Yoda....err, I mean PW.

And what exactly is that guy doing with his left hand?  ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on September 2, 2010, 12:44 PM
I am not a big fan of the come hither stare...  seriously, if I open this thread I have to super scroll past it...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on September 2, 2010, 06:05 PM
I just like how the guy on the left is staring right at you while the other two are looking at a different camera.  It seems it is more about the guy in the tight shirt than Yoda....err, I mean PW.

And what exactly is that guy doing with his left hand?  ;)

I think he just goosed Wise.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on December 9, 2010, 12:34 PM
Holy Crap! Anybody following this Scott McWilliams flap over at RS? What a douche! (Do not sue me - that is not libel)

Glad I have never dropped $$$ on any vintage prototypes, sounds like a lot of stuff in circulation now is complete bunk. That sucks...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on December 9, 2010, 12:52 PM
Fortunately Scott only sold to a limited number of collectors, and it's all been pretty well documented.  Unless I'm mistaken all of the fake are now out of circulation.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on December 9, 2010, 01:01 PM
Fortunately Scott only sold to a limited number of collectors, and it's all been pretty well documented.  Unless I'm mistaken all of the fake are now out of circulation.

Hopefully... will be interesting to see how this turns out...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2010, 03:32 PM
How'd he fake them, just out of curiosity?  I haven't heard anything about this.

OK, soooo...  I just saw on their front page that there were threads discussing this, and Philip deleted them?

If there's evidence against or for someone's case on their forums, and Philip removed it, what would be the motivation for that?  That seems counter-productive to the process of sorting out the mess.   :-\
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on December 9, 2010, 03:50 PM
How'd he fake them, just out of curiosity?  I haven't heard anything about this.

OK, soooo...  I just saw on their front page that there were threads discussing this, and Philip deleted them?

If there's evidence against or for someone's case on their forums, and Philip removed it, what would be the motivation for that?  That seems counter-productive to the process of sorting out the mess.   :-\

I just read this blog Greenharvest (http://greenharvest.blogspot.com/), and the first post from the now removed thread is on it.  Also the letter that Philip Wise got.  Sad that those people may of been scam out of money.  Hopefully they will get it back.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2010, 07:15 PM
This reminds me, at least loosely, about a story that happened in the 1:18 military world...  A guy scammed a ton of people out of money and they banned together via the forum for the hobby to get him, and ultimately they did.  I think the guy even did a little jail time, and some of the people's items were recovered.  Perhaps a great many items actually.

I didn't keep tabs on it because I didn't get involved and hadn't dealt with the guy, but it seemed to me the hammer really dropped and a lot of people left happy from the situation.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: 501ST on December 9, 2010, 07:44 PM
@ Jesse: Cool Story.

Good to know that not you don't have to be a jedi to be a guardian of peace and justice in our galaxy  ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on December 9, 2010, 08:26 PM
Whoever wrote that letter either isn't a lawyer or doesn't have a strong understanding of english legal terms. Or the letter was written by Lionel Hurtz.

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f328/mister_palpatine/images.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2010, 09:50 PM
@ Jesse: Cool Story.

Good to know that not you don't have to be a jedi to be a guardian of peace and justice in our galaxy  ;D

Yeah, it went on for a while and I guess stuff comes up about it still now and again, so you never know.  I just hope if people were scammed that they get their money back.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on December 10, 2010, 02:06 AM
Whoever wrote that letter either isn't a lawyer or doesn't have a strong understanding of english legal terms.

The lawyer's office is in Orlando so he may have taken a course in Disney from Mickey...  or they need a new secretary!   :D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Paul on December 10, 2010, 07:37 AM
I cannot comment on this story for fear of getting a poorly written letter that threatens my massive amounts of income that this site generates.... ::)
Ok gotta go to my real job now to pay for hosting....
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JohnH on December 20, 2010, 06:27 PM
Has anyone else noticed that CoolToyReview has become CoolEbaySponsorLink?  If you look reeeealy hard, you can actually see a couple of news posts in between those revenue-generating links.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 21, 2010, 01:20 AM
It always interests me to see what websites choose to highlight on eBay.  I think RS had a regular eBay spotlight column back several years ago.  I remember at least twice having auctions featured that I was watching and then sat and watched the prices skyrocket. 

Specifically, the European TPM Battle Droid 2-packs come to mind.  They were seemingly flying under the radar back when they first came out till auctions started getting highlighted and suddenly I couldn't afford them anymore.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on December 21, 2010, 02:53 AM
I only check out their Photo Archive since they have pictures of lines other websites generally don't have (Indiana Jones, Marvel Universe, etc.) and plus I like Curto's photography. However, I don't think their archive has been updated in at least a year. No Iron Man 2, no 3.75 inch Spider-Man... ah well.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 21, 2010, 09:24 AM
Yeah, their photo archive fell off, definitely.  But I think it's because Curto doesn't work for RS anymore, he has a real job so I think that cuts into his photography time.  Even the Star Wars photo archive is behind where it used to be pretty much right up to date with the most recent releases. They're at least 3 waves behind on Clone Wars right now.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on December 21, 2010, 07:44 PM
I wish Curto would update the Custom Alliance. It's been a year and half with no updates.   :'(
But I'm glad he has a real job now and isn't under the thumb of Wise anymore. I wish him the best for next year.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Biffette on April 24, 2011, 02:03 PM
LOL has anyone else notice the girl KennerBabe posting in the Vintage section at RS?  She is cracking me up.  I'd call her a young lady, but most ladies don't use the C-word in their twitter handles.  Anyhow, it is fun to watch all the activity she's spurring in the section.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on April 24, 2011, 04:06 PM
LOL has anyone else notice the girl KennerBabe posting in the Vintage section at RS?  She is cracking me up.  I'd call her a young lady, but most ladies don't use the C-word in their twitter handles.

I think that's becoming relatively common for 16-year-olds in 2011.   ;)

As soon as she posted I knew it'd turn into flirting and then creepy stuff.  I'm not surprised at all that someone offered her collectibles in exchange for nude photos.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Biffette on April 24, 2011, 04:42 PM
It would be funnier for some guy to offer *his* nude photos to *her* in exchange for collectibles. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 25, 2011, 02:57 AM
I read some of her early posts and was kind of waiting for the creepy to set in.  Last year prior to CV there was a thread where people were loading photos of themselves so there would possibly be some recognition at the show to make it easier for RS members to spot each other or strike up a convo in line somewhere.  There was a young girl that writes for a blog oriented towards female collectors who posted her photo. 

Very good looking.

Took about 10 minutes for the skeevy RS nerds to bomb her PMs with offers of dates and other such stuff.  Needless to say, she scrapped her photo and without looking her up, I don't think I've seen her post as much recently, at least not in the boards I frequent.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on April 25, 2011, 09:07 AM
I have followed this whole unfolding saga with some amusement, myself. She seems to have a pretty good attitude about it, good for her. It's some of the other posters/mods freaking out about it.

I guess you almost have to expect stuff like that, given that it's the internet, and it's that site. Frankly, I don't think you would see that at most of the other fan sites, because they tend to be more close-knit communities with more self-policing, and well, generally more cool people.

For whatever reason, RS just seems like a prick-magnet. I've been spending more time over there the past few months because they're the only site generating any quality store reports anymore, but it always feels like cyber-slumming. 

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on April 25, 2011, 12:12 PM
For whatever reason, RS just seems like a prick-magnet. I've been spending more time over there...

What are you trying to say?  ???

 ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on April 25, 2011, 02:59 PM
LOL, lurker only.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on April 25, 2011, 03:54 PM
LOL! ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 21, 2011, 06:59 PM
Hey - did you all hear the news!!! It's the most important news out of SDCC yet!

Star Wars Licensee Of The Year (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/SDCC11_Star_Wars_Licensee_Of_The_Year_139663.asp)

 ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on July 21, 2011, 08:09 PM
Wise is looking more muppety every time I see his puss.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2011, 09:06 PM
Hey - did you all hear the news!!! It's the most important news out of SDCC yet!

Star Wars Licensee Of The Year (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/SDCC11_Star_Wars_Licensee_Of_The_Year_139663.asp)

 ::)

What was Del Ray so good at this year?  I suppose you can't ALWAYS give it to Gentle Giant (even when Sideshow clearly actually deserves it every year themselves), but yeah...  Weird. 

Me, I'm just going to put a standing order that the "The JD'er" award goes to Sideshow pretty much till someone else proves they can do better.  And if Sideshow is caught in a sex videotape blowing a cabbie or something, then Lego's runner-up.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on July 21, 2011, 11:02 PM
Couldn't agree more with you Jesse.  Sideshow really blew it out of the park this year.  If we're going Non-Star Wars, there's nothing I'm more jazzed about than Marvel and DC Legos.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2011, 11:13 PM
Yoda's hut, alone, should win it for SS.

Seriously, it's an ultimate centerpiece if you have Yoda and Bespin Luke to put in it.  It's the kind of thing people who don't give a **** about Star Wars toys would buy and put on their mantle just because they remember Luke and Yoda in that hut, and care about that moment.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris M on September 17, 2011, 04:43 PM
Wow, just wow!! (http://forum.rebelscum.com/showthread.php?1072259-Please-Read-New-Edit-Rules&p=18591544#post18591544)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on September 17, 2011, 09:18 PM
At least they clearly and thoroughly explained their entire thought process behind their decision.

Oh wait, they didn't.

I will never cease to marvel at the irony of the biggest site being the worst. (Really, in every possible way)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 18, 2011, 12:07 AM
And now you know why I left that forum over 6 years ago.

The only reason I ever go there is because they have the best, most organized photo archive of any site.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on September 18, 2011, 12:33 AM
I writing a Star Wars collection program that will screen scrap RebelScum's photo archive. It will automatically add that data to your item's record. (including the picture)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on September 18, 2011, 02:36 AM
Well crap, there goes any chance of me being able to edit my drunken 4 AM posts the next day :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on September 18, 2011, 11:55 AM
That seems entirely stupid.  Why on earth would something like that need to be locked down?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 18, 2011, 07:29 PM
I hate everything RS, but considering the maturity level of the average RS poster, I wonder if there has been too much trash-talking, and when one member complains to the mods, the offending poster was just editing his/her comments to avoid being bounced from the forum.

So they have decided that you can only take back your nasty words for 2 days, after that, it's carved in stone and if you're gonna get in trouble for it, then so be it.

Maybe they are aware of the reputation the forum has and they're hoping that this lock-down approach will help clean things up a bit.

I love how in the thread, one of the posters is like "we have the right to blah blah blah" and the moderator's response to that was like "let's not get into what rights you have on our board" - hehe nice!

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2011, 01:59 PM
That's a possibility Pete, for sure.

I've always said though, they were always too busy worrying about who offended them personally, and not about who was actually breaking their forum rules, and if they actually gave a **** about enforcing anything there, half their membership would be banned.

They have guys scalping pretty freely on their boards anymore from what I hear, and they always had people hurling insults back and forth unchecked till Geg(g) just decided to lock the whole thread down instead of actually taking some action against the people who needed to be simply banned for not listening.  There are a ton of pricks hanging around there that simply shouldn't be allowed on any forum.  They just don't have the personality to interact with others civily.  It's a big reason I left a LONG time ago for here, and it's only steadily gone downhill since.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on September 19, 2011, 02:26 PM
That's a possibility Pete, for sure.

...
They have guys scalping pretty freely on their boards anymore from what I hear, and they always had people hurling insults back and forth unchecked till Geg(g) just decided to lock the whole thread down instead of actually taking some action against the people who needed to be simply banned for not listening. 

Ironically, Greg(g) is the case that come to mind when I was thinking of why they might want to do this.  When he (Bounty Hunter GNT) was a memeber at the BHC forums, he went through every post he had made (which was a LOT) and edited them all to a only a ".".  Caused a little chaos.

******.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on September 19, 2011, 02:29 PM
These little power kicks are a gas.  Has anyone listed any useful or logical reason to lock down edits to a post?  Anything?  I don't even buy into the trash talking...if someone is trash talking, realizes they were too heated, and wants to change it then A.) good for them for calming down and being more civil and B.) wouldn't that probably happen within two days anyway? 

The ONLY "benefit" I can see here (and not even sure if it is one) is that it should increase their post rate.  If you posted something about a trade list or a collection of yours, then wanted to add or change it a week later, you now need to make a new post instead of just editing.  I think sponsors on pay for purchases, right?  Does RS get any kind of kickback or advantage out of an increasing number of posts?  I'm not sure how click rate is applied to sites like this, but like others, I'm glad I ditched RS years ago.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on September 19, 2011, 02:55 PM
It might have to do with their search index.  They were saying the index they generated was already massive.  Locking down posts after two days would ensure they wouldn't need to re-index them.

Not that I understand why they're creating an index to search against anyway...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on September 19, 2011, 03:14 PM
It might have to do with their search index.  They were saying the index they generated was already massive.  Locking down posts after two days would ensure they wouldn't need to re-index them.

Not that I understand why they're creating an index to search against anyway...

....and MORE posts caused by the inability to edit would mean their search index has to look through even more posts...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on September 19, 2011, 03:32 PM
I have a newfound appreciation for the way JD handles the boards for the older lines after looking at this:

(http://i.imgur.com/ezU15.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/hYPbh.png)

Seriously, Pappy, make that older **** collapsible already.



(P.S. I still miss you, Sergiu. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12615.msg274231#msg274231)  :-[) 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2011, 03:49 PM
Good point, name.  I'd forgotten his "." phase...  What a fucko.

Beyond that I'm not seeing any logic to this, but again, I've never seen logic to anything that's gone on there really.

And yes, they need to make a mess like that collapsable.  Even there, are many people posting about the E1 line, or Saga 2002?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on September 19, 2011, 07:40 PM
Good point, name.  I'd forgotten his "." phase...  What a fucko.

Was it a phase, or was it just his unique way of rage-quitting the boards after everybody made fun of his definition of "tumbleweed?"


(It's too bad the GH forums have **** the bed, by the way.)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2011, 08:50 PM
I'd forgotten about all this stuff...  It makes me laugh as any of it gets brought back up like something you just couldn't digest fully.  All the Greg(g) stuff, Bertha...  I bet she's still around, and I bet not one thing has changed.

I'm having so many blue/brown coat flashbacks too.  That was epic.  Fleet Trooper debating...  For me that was epic.  Good times since it made you realize, "This is so dumb, I'm going to just walk away from it".

It still amazes me though, all the problems they can't wrangle in, and they are more agitated with the people who question their authority/reasoning...  Don't sweat the big ****, let's just worry about the guys that ask too many questions.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on September 19, 2011, 09:21 PM

... the moderator's response to that was like "let's not get into what rights you have on our board"

That was a nice touch I thought. 

I saw the comment and like so many others, recall why I left so many years ago (though I'm still a registered member there).  I understand the need for rules but wow, way to make 'em feel welcome.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 20, 2011, 12:01 AM
They have not mentioned it, but a new feature of the forums is that you can read it in the original German.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on September 20, 2011, 10:28 AM
They have not mentioned it, but a new feature of the forums is that you can read it in the original German.

Have at thee.  ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris M on September 20, 2011, 05:21 PM
They have not mentioned it, but a new feature of the forums is that you can read it in the original German.

That made me chuckle when I first read it this morning.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on September 22, 2011, 02:45 PM
I have frequented there less and less over the years, but find the new forum to be a step back.  I'll probably spend even less time there.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: name on September 22, 2011, 04:19 PM
(It's too bad the GH forums have **** the bed, by the way.)

Too bad indeed...it went downhill when we couldn't get any support on controlling spambots.  Finally the whole thing crashed...a handful of the faithful mods kept trying to contact the sys admins with no response.  I guess they just decided to let it die, and didn't see it as importat enough to tell anyone.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on September 22, 2011, 04:51 PM
I have frequented there less and less over the years, but find the new forum to be a step back.  I'll probably spend even less time there.

I actually think it's not that bad, after taking a few days to get used to it.  Of all the things the old forum did that the new one doesn't, that I liked, was the ability to view a thread by pages or all at once.  I miss the all at once feature.

Other than that, it seems to be running okay.  I haven't had any problems that others have reported and it took a few days to get used to the new layout, but I think I'm fine with it.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: IncomT65 on September 22, 2011, 04:53 PM
I have frequented there less and less over the years, but find the new forum to be a step back.  I'll probably spend even less time there.

A few years ago, for a short period I refrained from visiting RS, but have been an active user for some time again. I mostly visit the customizing sections (which have always been maintained in a poor manner has always had a design not to my liking) and the classifieds. In fact, I made most forum deals with RS members.

I'm with Chewie on this, though. Well, let the Wookiee win, eh? But seriously, I agree with him. This ridiculous Editing rule really does it for me. As a customizer, and one who likes to show in-progress pictures, editing your initial post(s) is well.... vital. The same goes for classifieds. I know, you can still edit your first post in that section, but a lot of people split up their wants and haves in first and second posts to make things clearer.

Come to think of it, I can't think of any other forum, except TFN, that doesn't allow post-editing....

Time to let go of the Rebels and go back to JD and hopefully get the customizing section in full effect again.


EDIT: chose some wrong words to express my thoughts and rephrased them  :-\ Again, no harm intended.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on September 22, 2011, 05:16 PM
Time to let go of the Rebels and go back to JD and hopefully get the customizing section in full effect again.

Please do. I miss seeing your stuff.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: IncomT65 on September 23, 2011, 07:08 AM
Time to let go of the Rebels and go back to JD and hopefully get the customizing section in full effect again.

Please do. I miss seeing your stuff.

Er... I updated my thread some time ago already, Phruby  :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on September 23, 2011, 09:53 AM
Very cool new stuff there. I need to check more often.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 25, 2011, 03:42 PM
I'd forgotten about all this stuff...  It makes me laugh as any of it gets brought back up like something you just couldn't digest fully.  All the Greg(g) stuff, Bertha...  I bet she's still around, and I bet not one thing has changed.

I'm having so many blue/brown coat flashbacks too.  That was epic.  Fleet Trooper debating...  For me that was epic.  Good times since it made you realize, "This is so dumb, I'm going to just walk away from it".

It still amazes me though, all the problems they can't wrangle in, and they are more agitated with the people who question their authority/reasoning...  Don't sweat the big ****, let's just worry about the guys that ask too many questions.

My best memories are of the really super defensive fanboys of characters that weren't even remotely interesting. Jango Fett, Trebor Coleman, etc. The rage quitting and crybaby antics when they realized ICMG and Lobot's Duplex, etc., were parodies of them, CLASSIC!

I still have a perfect mental image of that art or science project Greg(g) made. Also his mustache. And Bertha's mustache, too.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2011, 08:19 PM
I still laugh at people who get mad about "Nein Numb" not being spelled right, haha.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Tracy on September 27, 2011, 09:05 AM
I had forgotten all about Bertha and the fun that ensued when these treasures were dug up:

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b140/tamidala/berthacomprl1.jpg)

She had a hissy-fit and Dean just kept egging her on.   It was such a train wreck.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: R5Don4 on December 10, 2011, 06:42 PM
I want to know who Curto has been blowing!  I can't believe Topps gave him another run at the sketch cards (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Another_Dan_Curto_Star_Wars_Sketch_Card_Gallery_142345.asp) and of course his illustrations still suck as hard as ever.  I remember his defense was that he was rushed with a very short time line to produce them  ::) oh yeah...

Nice Bertha picks btw, what a termite!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on December 10, 2011, 10:53 PM
What ever happened to Lady Jaye at RS?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on February 27, 2012, 04:58 PM
Check out the new sponsor (http://rebelscum.com/). Next up, Lifetime and kotex
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on February 27, 2012, 06:37 PM
What in the hell is that?  ???
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on February 27, 2012, 08:56 PM
Do you mean "Her Universe"?

Isn't that the chick that plays Asoka on CW?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: P-Siddy on February 27, 2012, 09:09 PM
Do you mean "Her Universe"?

Isn't that the chick that plays Asoka on CW?

If that's it, yeah, that's her... and she sells sci-fi themed T-shirts, I believe.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 27, 2012, 09:11 PM
Yeah I missed what this is too if someone could point it out specifically.  I may just not be paying attention close enough, haha.

It's not a vibrator company is it?  R2-Dildo2.com?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on February 27, 2012, 09:14 PM
Do you mean "Her Universe"?

Isn't that the chick that plays Asoka on CW?

Those have been running on RS for months.  Ashley's pretty nice.  I met her at SDCC a few years back, and again at NYCC this past fall.  She's trying to make a go of things with her own business.  And funny enough, when she was at NYCC her husband, former MLB player David Eckstein, was helping run the booth with her.

I wasn't sure what ad you were referring to at first.  When I went over there I was surprised to find a Consumer Reports ad on the site.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on February 27, 2012, 09:42 PM
No, not the Her Universe links. There were large skyscraper/vertical banner ads to the left and right of the main page content with links to this site (http://jenandbarbmomlife.com/).
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on February 27, 2012, 09:50 PM
Didn't see those.  But I have been noticing a new trend of ads for sites and items I browse popping up in top and side banners recently.  Perhaps your wife has been using your laptop for some browsing on sites you might not otherwise be checking out?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 27, 2012, 09:54 PM
Wow.  Very...  TLC.

I hope that's their newest sponsor.  That'd be just swell.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on February 27, 2012, 09:57 PM
Didn't see those.  But I have been noticing a new trend of ads for sites and items I browse popping up in top and side banners recently.  Perhaps your wife has been using your laptop for some browsing on sites you might not otherwise be checking out?

Actually, they popped on while on my design station at work. Weird, considering I'm the only one using that particular computer.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on February 27, 2012, 10:36 PM
Didn't see those.  But I have been noticing a new trend of ads for sites and items I browse popping up in top and side banners recently.  Perhaps your wife has been using your laptop for some browsing on sites you might not otherwise be checking out?

Actually, they popped on while on my design station at work. Weird, considering I'm the only one using that particular computer.

I saw them earlier.  They seem to be gone now, at least for me.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on February 27, 2012, 10:52 PM
We're combatting that with our latest sponsor.

Behold...

(http://blog.newsok.com/staticblog/files/2009/06/jon-and-kate-plus-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on February 29, 2012, 02:52 AM
I wonder if the supplier of the ads got hacked and is causing goofy **** to pop on sites that don't really have anything to do with the advertisements?

I know about a year ago we got hit at work with some malware that came when people were browsing the local newspaper's website.  After looking at the history and cache on the computers, I was pretty convinced that the advertisements displayed initiated the attacks.  There are so many tricks in use to try and compromise people's computers it's not funny any more. 

On the topic of Ashley and Her Universe, it seems they're doing well.  I see a lot of geek girls posting on various sites about what cool new swag they've just got from her store.  She started with mostly SW but has branched out to Syfy channel stuff now including Battlestar Galactica and Warehouse 13.  Lot of positive feedback on the clothing from what I've seen also.

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Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on March 9, 2012, 11:02 AM
So, yesterday, I think it was, people noticed that Dan Curto was no longer an admin on the forum over at RS.  Today he posted to Twitter; "Hard to share this, but I am no longer part of the @rebelscumnews @forcecast @theforcenet @CoolTooyReview teams." and then added a link to his Facebook where he has a small post about it.  He says that he was "fired" (with the quotes being his).

How do you get "fired" from a volunteer position? 

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on March 9, 2012, 11:33 AM
My guess is you piss off the allmighty Phillip Wise and he lays the smack down on you Sith style.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 9, 2012, 11:44 AM
what?!?!  Dang that stinks, Curto is an all around great guy imo
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on March 9, 2012, 12:20 PM
My guess is you piss off the allmighty Phillip Wise and he lays the smack down on you Sith style.

There are large number of people here that can speak from experience.

At least RS can now focus exclusively on Canadian SW collecting!!!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on March 9, 2012, 12:28 PM
My guess is you piss off the allmighty Phillip Wise and he lays the smack down on you Sith style.

There are large number of people here that can speak from experience.

At least RS can now focus exclusively focus on Canadian SW collecting!!!

Hilarious! Thanks Scott, I just shot pop out my nose.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on March 9, 2012, 02:18 PM
So much for that post-death plan of succession...

That place just gets weirder and weirder.

Anyone want to lay odds on the real story ever getting out?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on March 9, 2012, 02:26 PM
Dan is a pretty good guy once you get to know him.  And I could probably see him taking some time off from the game.  I know that personally he's got a bunch of stuff on his plate.  I don't think it's likely for him to publically air his dirty laundry, but there have been some political back and forths with the RS staffers for some time.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on March 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
I like Dan alot. You guys need to hire him. Maybe now he can update the Custom Alliance. ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on March 9, 2012, 04:56 PM
Yeah Dan is cool... love his photo archive work at Cool Toy Review
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on March 9, 2012, 07:56 PM
Paul can barely afford the $100k (+/- $100k) a year each of us are already pulling down, let alone adding another person to the payroll
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2012, 11:19 PM
Speaking of...  I just got an email from Paul, and it's not looking good for me.  :'(  :-*

Maybe now he can update the Custom Alliance. ;)

This made me shoot pop out of my nose.  Poor Dan, the guy never catches a break!   :D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on March 10, 2012, 12:46 AM
Paul can barely afford the $100k (+/- $100k) a year each of us are already pulling down, let alone adding another person to the payroll

 ;D  Ha, good times.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CHEWIE on March 10, 2012, 12:47 AM
I used to chat with Dan a while back about updates at TCU, and offered numerous times to help out.  It would be outstanding if he did do some updates, but I can't blame the guy if he doesn't.  At least he hasn't shut the site down... hope that doesn't happen for a long, long time.  It's such a fantastic resource... and I never would have gotten into customizing and photonovels like this if not for him.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 10, 2012, 06:28 AM
Paul can barely afford the $100k (+/- $100k) a year each of us are already pulling down, let alone adding another person to the payroll

He pays me twice that just to post here.  You're really getting shorted.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on March 10, 2012, 04:30 PM
Paul can barely afford the $100k (+/- $100k) a year each of us are already pulling down, let alone adding another person to the payroll

He pays me twice that just to post here.  You're really getting shorted.

Well the King always pays the court jester the most.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2012, 01:29 AM
I liked that they had a story up about Hasbro laying off employees but nothing about their own layoffs.   :-X  For some reason that just made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on March 12, 2012, 09:14 AM
I liked that they had a story up about Hasbro laying off employees but nothing about their own layoffs.   :-X  For some reason that just made me chuckle.

I looked but I can't find a single thread in any of their forums where it is even being talked about. Are people that terrified of the Mods over there?

Classy thing to do would have been to at least put a brief blurb up thanking him for his contributions to the site over the years and all the hard work he has put in on their behalf. Guess that was too much to ask...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on March 12, 2012, 09:30 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1078910-3/

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1071207-397/
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on March 13, 2012, 08:12 PM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1078910-3/

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1071207-397/

I fully expected that kind of reaction from Greg(g).  The folks over there are nothing if not predictable.

The thing is, I look at the content that's coming out of RS now and compare it to Curto's work, and it's enough reason for me to not check that site for news.  He was the person who was generating the best Hasbro SW news over there.  Other people on the RS staff are just regurgitating press releases from companies like Sideshow.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on March 13, 2012, 08:58 PM
I agree. The news has gone downhill fast. The only thing that is good is the photo archives. I use their photo archives to screen scrape information into my toy database. Now that Dan isn't around anymore, the archives will fall apart too.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on March 30, 2012, 11:24 PM
So I just stopped by the RS main page for the first time in a while, and I checked out some new photo archive pics. WHOA.  The quality of the photography has already gone downhill since Curto's departure.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: P-Siddy on March 30, 2012, 11:25 PM
So I just stopped by the RS main page for the first time in a while, and I checked out some new photo archive pics. WHOA.  The quality of the photography has already gone downhill since Curto's departure.

I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Curto.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on March 30, 2012, 11:45 PM
If only JD had a photo archive as extensive as RS.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on March 30, 2012, 11:53 PM
I get that feeling, too.  Based on my own conversations with him, I think he needed some time off.  But there could also be a delay in the return of Curto to the online collecting community.  I know of at least one site that has their staffers sign a no-compete contract.  And given the scale of RS in the community, I think it's entirely possible that he may have had similar circumstances.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on March 31, 2012, 08:21 AM
I don't think you have to sign a non-compete unless you're getting paid, right?  My understanding is that he had been back at "volunteer" status for quite some time...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on March 31, 2012, 10:37 AM
Depending on where he lives, a no-compete contract is uninforceable. A guy has to be able to make a living.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on March 31, 2012, 10:44 AM
So I just stopped by the RS main page for the first time in a while, and I checked out some new photo archive pics. WHOA.  The quality of the photography has already gone downhill since Curto's departure.

And the archive has taken on the CTR format.  ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 1, 2012, 04:12 AM
According to a Twitter update today, Curto appears to be completely unemployed.  But no, he hasn't worked for RS for a couple of years now.  I don't know if they paid the bills on any of his trips, like to TF or not, but he wasn't on the regular payroll as far as I know. And honestly, would you really sign a no compete contract to work for a hobby website?  There aren't any trade secrets in reporting news.

I could see, maybe, a nondisclosure agreement with Hasbro because he's sometimes been in the know on some stuff, but what's he going to take if he left RS for here, for example?  I could see a contract where any work he produced for RS was property of RS, so he wouldn't be able to take his photo archive pics somewhere else, but not being able to just go and create new work or post new news?  I don't know, maybe some people are paranoid enough to think that way...still, these websites aren't what I'd call big business.

The photo archives over there....way behind, and have been.  And now, they're suspiciously Canadian in flavor.  Plus they're not linked back to the checklists anymore.  I don't even know how to actually get into the Movie Heroes photo archive, I haven't found a direct link to it from any of the menus or other sections.  I guess you have to wait for a new update?  Or track down the old one?  Whatever.  Place is falling apart over there.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on April 1, 2012, 11:53 AM
And honestly, would you really sign a no compete contract to work for a hobby website?  There aren't any trade secrets in reporting news.

That was my first reaction too.  Signing an NDA to work for a website in the nerdverse seems somehow appropriately nerdy.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2012, 02:21 PM
Paul had us sign all kinds of contracts.  The burden of working for a lawyer.

I tried leaving once and a Uhaul was outside for my collection in a matter of minutes.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 1, 2012, 02:33 PM
I lawyered up with Sprry...that was the worst mistake of my life as in the event I quit, I actually have to pay into Paul plus I have to work at Sandtroopers.

(http://images1.makefive.com/images/entertainment/television/best-simpsons-character/lionel-hutz-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on April 1, 2012, 03:38 PM
It looks like Dan works at Sandtroopers.com now.

(http://www.sandtroopers.com/images/curtobanner.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on April 1, 2012, 04:51 PM
It looks like Dan works at Sandtroopers.com now.

(http://www.sandtroopers.com/images/curtobanner.jpg)

Nope, he works for Yakface now:

(http://yakfaceforums.com/main/newgraphics/yakheader.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on April 1, 2012, 05:02 PM
Son of a... I forgot to post my April Fool's banner.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on April 1, 2012, 05:08 PM
Better late than never...

(http://www.creaturecantina.com/00graphics/mainbanner.JPG)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: solrac on April 1, 2012, 06:49 PM
I didn't know that people got paid to run fan sites. Can I be an official photographer for JD at SDCC, I will do It for free.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on April 1, 2012, 07:24 PM
I absolutely love just how many sites have joined in.  GH, Imperial Shipyards, JTA, Jedi News, SWAN, & Yoda's News are all in on it too!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Paul on April 1, 2012, 08:57 PM
A concerted effort in this hobby is no small feat.  We have it on our graphics "to do" list, but bear in mind we just changed a 9 year old Banner ad for Brian's Toys. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on April 1, 2012, 09:09 PM
Wow! This goes to show how much Dan is loved.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on April 2, 2012, 12:55 AM
Son of a... I forgot to post my April Fool's banner.

That's because Creature Cantina sucks.  :-*
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Sprry75 on April 2, 2012, 10:23 PM
Yeah, that wasn't my finest moment.  But still, that was a better deal than what I got you in your pre-nup agreement.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 18, 2012, 09:31 PM
I was pm'd over at scum and asked to change my signature regarding my appreciation for Dan Curto....  It read "Dan Curto made reblescum.com, rebelscum.com"


......

I respectfully said I would, but my opinion will not change.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on April 18, 2012, 10:11 PM
Are you cereal?

That's ridiculous. I would have told them to shove it right up their ******* asses.

That place takes itself waaaaay too seriously. Rebelscum my ass, they roll much more like The Empire with that heavy-handed, humorless crap.

That just comes off as petty and immature. Get over it already.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Ryan on April 19, 2012, 01:59 AM
I was pm'd over at scum and asked to change my signature regarding my appreciation for Dan Curto....  It read "Dan Curto made reblescum.com, rebelscum.com"


......

I respectfully said I would, but my opinion will not change.

I seem to remember a day not to long back when a lot of folks around here (myself included) got banned for having a certain website in their signature lines...

Good times.   :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 19, 2012, 02:06 AM
I guess they didn't like the truth staring them in the face.  Like it or not, to other collectors, Curto was the face of the organization and had been for several years.  Wise is very separated from the site, I haven't seen him post in the forums in years unless he's in the prop forum somewhere that I don't read.  Their admins and higher profile forum mods are dropping, Dustin is MIA and that pretty much leaves Myatt on the news. 

They haven't really broken any collecting news lately other than the Disney stuff, and a lot of it seems like it's crowd sourced.  Eh.  Whatever.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2012, 02:15 AM
I was pm'd over at scum and asked to change my signature regarding my appreciation for Dan Curto....  It read "Dan Curto made reblescum.com, rebelscum.com"

So who was the douche that asked you to change it?  I'm curious which specific moron it was is all.

Like Ryan said, this isn't unprecedented behavior...  but at least you were asked to change yours.  Ours just got us banned for essentially no reason.

At the time Greg(g) was the one going around weeding people out due to signatures.  Was curious if that little maroon was up to his old tricks with this. :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 19, 2012, 08:52 AM
It wasn't him, it was someone else.  I will pm the details (full message) to anyone wanting to read.  I don't want them to ban me for something foolish which it sounds like they would have no issue in doing so.  I still enjoy the site, some of the members  that I trade with, and post on occasion, but not near as much as I use to.  This site and marvelousnews.com gets the majority of my attention now.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris M on April 19, 2012, 10:44 AM
I'd love to read that PM.

I used to keep a couple where they got onto me about having a UK forum in signature.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on April 19, 2012, 01:03 PM
I'd love to read that PM.

Ditto.  What a bunch of tools.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris M on April 19, 2012, 02:18 PM
Funny read to say the least.  I'm not surprised at all, especially considering who wrote it.

For saying that, their spies will probably see this and ban me...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 19, 2012, 02:31 PM
Okay, I think I want to see that PM also.  Hit me up, if you don't mind, Shmash.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on April 19, 2012, 02:47 PM
I'd like to take a peek as well Mr. Shmash - if you don't mind...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
It's pretty much who I thought it would be but the way he worded his PM to Shmash was very disingenuous and almost sounds bitter.  I didn't expect that, but it's par for the course for who wrote it.

They've always had a policy on signatures over there but if it's not derogatory and doesn't contain links to competing sites, I thought they usually left it alone.  Now I really want to know more of the backstory of why they parted ways with Dan.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 19, 2012, 04:26 PM
yeah, I am still clueless as to what happened and why Dan was "fired".  I would be interested if anyone has the scoop   ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 19, 2012, 04:55 PM
He's mentioned special projects two different times on Facebook that I know of.  One turned out to be Sansweet's upcomming book The Ultimate Action Figure Collection.  I wonder if he worked on that, taking photos, and didn't get "permission" from RS?  Some type of non-compete clause he broke or something?  Maybe they were just pissed that RS wouldn't be the only venue for Curto's photos?

Maybe it's this other project he's mentioned?  I guess we'll have to wait for some type of announcement from him.  I'd be hard pressed to think that he wouldn't at least end up on staff of another website.  He's close with James that runs the UK Jedi News site...don't have to actually be in the UK to do photo archives or post news.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on April 19, 2012, 07:26 PM
I think the other project is his work with Topps doing sketch cards for Mars Attacks series. As to his work on the Sansweet book, I think his envolvment happened after his departure from RS.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on April 19, 2012, 07:41 PM
He announced his "firing" a few weeks ago but on Twitter they were talking about working on the book, although exactly what they were doing wasn't specified at the time, a few weeks before that.  So I don't know when he started working on it.

It's all just guess work.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 20, 2012, 12:32 AM
Now I'm morbidly curious about this PM.  I always looked at getting banned from there as a badge of honor.

I still love the photo of Chris and JediMac with PW.  Priceless!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Crackbrick on April 20, 2012, 06:11 AM
Had a bad experience with the MODs over at RS a long time ago.
It was silly.  I made a newbie mistake and was scolded like Full Metal Jacket and never went back.
I remember thinking that yeah, the MOD was right, but it was the way they went about it.  Clowns.  no tact.
Bunch of drapes over there.

md
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 20, 2012, 08:34 AM

I still love the photo of Chris and JediMac with PW.  Priceless!
Agreed

(http://www.jedidefender.com/cberry/images/friendsforever.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 20, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nothing beats Chris' look like, "Hey!  It's me!  Remember me?  You hate me and my site!  Hah!", and Philip just think it's people treating him like a celebretard.  And Matt's just loving the moment.  He's like Captain JMACrica.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Crackbrick on April 20, 2012, 06:48 PM
As the Geek turns.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 20, 2012, 09:21 PM
Fun thought for the day...

I guess I got/get paid more than Curto since I got two Lego figures yesterday courtesy of my boss.  How about that?  :D

Rumor has it I'm being fired though being, and quoting from my performance review, "A bit of a dickhole".  It was initialed JMAC&OCB.  >:(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on April 20, 2012, 09:30 PM
I am totally out of the loop when you guys talk about these forum celebrities...  I only collect the toys.    ;D

I honestly have no clue about that picture - though I am guessing Wise is the guy in the middle? 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on April 20, 2012, 10:16 PM
It was from C3...Wise banned every staff member here for having JediDefender site links in their signatures.  Also for making a big deal of him sending out SPAM to his forum members without any optout clauses.

Soon after at C3, Chris and JediMAC (left and right in that pic) met Wise on the floor and got their picture taken with him.  After the pic, they introduced themselves, Wise got all embarassed and left in a huff.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jeff on April 20, 2012, 11:19 PM
I prefer this one...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/cberry/images/familyhug.jpg)

It was awesome.  He really had no clue what was going on and once he found out who were were, he got all red and left.  Damn I miss Coleman.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: iFett on April 20, 2012, 11:46 PM
Who's that kid...or the old man for the matter?   ;)  Too bad things aren't as they once were.....I miss that other guy though.......
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 21, 2012, 12:19 AM
Did you add redeye to Chris in that picture?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Paul on April 21, 2012, 08:12 AM
Fun thought for the day...

I guess I got/get paid more than Curto since I got two Lego figures yesterday courtesy of my boss.  How about that?  :D

Rumor has it I'm being fired though being, and quoting from my performance review, "A bit of a dickhole".  It was initialed JMAC&OCB.  >:(

And you got Pizza and a personal visit, don't undersell the personal time.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on April 21, 2012, 02:26 PM
Heh, I didn't know MAC and Berry actually introduced themselves after taking those pics. Makes them that much funnier!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on April 22, 2012, 05:05 PM
Yes, and an autographed photo too, via Official Pix.  Thanks Paul! :)

That kid is Philip's grandson.  That's why he's in all those pics with him.  :-X
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Biffette on May 18, 2012, 10:39 AM
http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1081733-4/#post18824543 (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1081733-4/#post18824543)

I'm starting to think there will be another wave of ex-RS members dropping by, if that thread continues on its current path.

Quote from: GNT
All of the mod team moderate this site do so in our free time for the sheer love of the hobby (we don't get paid for this) but please show some respect towards all of us, no matter what section we're from and/or the decisions that've been made Remember this site is what YOU make of it, we're here to keep the peace and keep it all in check, sadly that thread (I have checked it out) was way out of line and the comments posted just unacceptable period.

Quote from: kisstour3
Well good for you. You and your pals do a ****** *** job of modding what used to be a really awesome site. AND for free no less. WOW!!! good for you. Too bad, if you got paid, you guys would get fired for the job you're done lately.

I never read the thread it was gone before I had a chance to look. Which is another problem we have. It should have been locked down. As for comments being way out of line. It shows the action was taken by someone who doesn't know Joe even a little bit. Bringing up another issue. I always thought each section had it's own set of mods. That's the impression I've always had, considering I know I've never see your name pop up here.

I'm curious why I was singled out as I wasn't the first to make a comment about this mods brain power. And whoever did Joes ban BTW deserves the "moron mod" title. Trust me I was showing respect I could have just called him a ******bag ******* **** knob dickbag. Which would have been alot more fitting I think.

AND finally take your and shove it up your ***.

Quote from: oceans11
I appreciate you coming in here and posting about this. This proves it's not difficult. Would have been nicer and meant more if the mod who actually was involved took a couple seconds out of his busy day ruling with an iron fist and governing through fear and tyranny (at least how I see it) to step up and make any type of statement. I guess it's easier and better to ban people and remove undesirables when no one knows who you are and you aren't accountable to the people that you're over seeing.

In my personal opinion the offending thread should not have been removed, because it is always a good idea to have discipline examples out there.  But some of the posters in that thread are acting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on May 18, 2012, 03:09 PM
I love Rebelscum and I hope they never change. Stuff like this is just priceless.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Paul on May 18, 2012, 03:17 PM
I'm starting to think there will be another wave of ex-RS members dropping by, if that thread continues on its current path.



Lock the doors, turn out the lights and everybody hide..maybe they will think we aren't home.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on May 18, 2012, 05:23 PM
Nay, they're like zombies. They will keep banging as long as they think there is fresh meat.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on May 18, 2012, 09:29 PM
What a trainwreck of a thread. It's always something with those guys.

Makes me wonder though - why doesn't someone start a SW website for adults, where cursing and all that stuff is ok?

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on May 18, 2012, 09:35 PM
You can ******* swear here **** **** **** ****
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on May 18, 2012, 09:40 PM
Ho Lee ******' ****!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on May 18, 2012, 10:40 PM
You can ******* swear here **** **** **** ****

LMFAO! 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Paul on May 18, 2012, 11:02 PM
What a trainwreck of a thread. It's always something with those guys.

Makes me wonder though - why doesn't someone start a SW website for adults, where cursing and all that stuff is ok?

Some ego crazed troll would just buy it from them if they did.  And then make Jeff and Jesse do all the work. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on May 19, 2012, 01:01 AM
**** you!  Err wait, **** me...  ****.

I like that GNT wants people to respect him.  After that photo, all hopes of that were dashed.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on May 19, 2012, 07:55 AM
What photo?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on May 19, 2012, 08:22 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)

BTW...this is his cousing Greg(g) not Gregg
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Biffette on May 19, 2012, 12:18 PM
I suppose Philip Wise could always copy/paste his gem from the Prop Replica section:

Quote
It's really been awhile since I had to step in and take action on something like this. Probably there are many here that either don't know or don't remember a few basic things that are dead set in stone by me.

The forum is not a democracy.

There is no freedom of speech in this forum.

The forum is provided here so people can hang out together and talk about Star Wars collecting in a manner that's mutually respectful.

I do not care how much you are pissed off at companies like efx, no matter how much you may feel they deserve it. You may not be disrespectul of them in this forum.

I'm sure there are other forums that wouldn't mind having your participation, regardless of its venom.

If you cannot live with this, leave. Right now. Just be done with it and move on. And no, I don't want to see any goodbye threads. I just want you gone.

If you continue, we will permanently remove your access to the forum.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1079830/#post18778484 (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1079830/#post18778484)

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on May 19, 2012, 02:45 PM
Now when I go to their front page, I get a redirect to an ad for MySpace. MySpace? That must be what's hot in Canada. ;)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Morgbug on May 19, 2012, 04:39 PM
Now when I go to their front page, I get a redirect to an ad for MySpace. MySpace? That must be what's hot in Canada. ;)

Oh please, don't go channeling Justin.  For your own sake ::)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Biffette on May 19, 2012, 05:29 PM
Okay, the JoeY discussion has been locked down and Phil Wise stickied this to the top of the page:

Quote
I've just been made aware of the issues with Joe Y's posting that caused him to be suspended for month. I've also seen the diatribe that followed.

Stop it now.

I'm getting ready to lock that thread down. Do not start any further discussion on this topic.

Here's what you need to know about why this happened:

Yes, I let this section self-moderate. And it's been very good for years.

However, self-moderation is not no moderation.

Self-moderation did not happen, and the thread got out of hand by a member who good and well knows better.

Pretty diplomatic compared to the Prop Replica post.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on May 19, 2012, 10:36 PM
Now when I go to their front page, I get a redirect to an ad for MySpace. MySpace? That must be what's hot in Canada. ;)

Oh please, don't go channeling Justin.  For your own sake ::)

Jay, it's pronounced Canadia around my hoose.  That's what I'm talkin' aboot.   ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on May 19, 2012, 10:57 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)

BTW...this is his cousing Greg(g) not Gregg

Every time I see that, I'm reminded of these:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/V_Gregg.jpg)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on May 20, 2012, 02:23 AM
Every time I see that, I'm reminded of these:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/V_Gregg.jpg)

RIP Virex  :'(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on May 20, 2012, 02:02 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt on May 23, 2012, 01:10 AM
Every time I see that, I'm reminded of these:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/V_Gregg.jpg)

RIP Virex  :'(

(http://i.imgur.com/stPNv.png)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on May 23, 2012, 01:42 AM
You touched his drumset.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: IncomT65 on June 23, 2012, 05:05 PM
Like I said when the big RS overhaul took place, I frequent RS less and less often. I'm a customizer and rarely get out much (from the customizing section, that is, in real life I do get out. Really!), but events like this worry me. Then there's the whole image content issues I've been reading about.... Geez....

Anyway, take a look at Palpa- er.... PW's list of friends:

http://forum.rebelscum.com/users/2/

 ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt Carroll on June 24, 2012, 11:19 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)

BTW...this is his cousing Greg(g) not Gregg

That's a blast from the past.  :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on June 25, 2012, 09:57 AM
So is having you post! :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt Carroll on June 27, 2012, 11:10 PM
So is having you post! :P

 Thanks Scott. :) Thought I would crawl out of my cave and check in on the various SW boards.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: MistaBinks on June 28, 2012, 10:51 PM
Received a new TOS email from 'Scum forums this evening.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on June 30, 2012, 03:46 PM
Curto has now been perma-banned by Scum....

He doesn't even know why.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 30, 2012, 04:59 PM
*shrugs*

Nobody's even sure why he was "fired" though too, so who knows.  Only Curto/Scum staff know what the truth is in all that quagmire.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on June 30, 2012, 10:52 PM
My best guess, based on a comment from PW during the new TOS arguments, is that maybe he took some of his photos to Sansweet for this new book, without permission.  Since Curto was, at one point, actually employed by RS (but not at the time he was "fired") I'm assuming PW felt they belonged to RS and without permission, couldn't be used.  I'd also guess he even feels that the stuff contributed when he was a volunteer (and mod) falls into the work for hire category as well.

Don't know if something else came down for the forum ban, but it's the kind of petty stuff PW would do.  Maybe it's because of the Curto/Burns podcast being somewhat of a compeltition to the ForceCast?  But, it's just a real kick in the teeth when he's talking about the "history of the forum" and why people can't remove content they've posted while simultaneously running as fast as he can to scrub any mention of support for Curto and Joe Yglesias.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on June 30, 2012, 11:57 PM
What's the name of Curto's podcast?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on June 30, 2012, 11:59 PM
CurtoBurns Collector Cast (http://CurtoBurns.com/)

As far as I know, most of (if not all) of the figures for the book were rephotographed to maximize resolution and color consistency. I doubt you'd be able to pick out animage that is or was being used in the RS Photo Archive.

*shrugs*

Nobody's even sure why he was "fired" though too, so who knows.  Only Curto/Scum staff know what the truth is in all that quagmire.

It's all about DraMa.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on July 1, 2012, 01:50 AM
Over on RS (http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1083326/) there has been a big debate on ownership and right of use for information and photos posted to their forum.  You can read the full thread for more info, but the basics are that a member returned from a suspension and wanted to remove all of his photos and some of the info he'd posted.  After deleting it he received a permanent ban and his info and pics were restored.  The TOS was amended and during the debate over some of the language, specifically the use of the word "publish" (being taken to mean RS could use forum info/pics in a printed work), PW dropped this:

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I recently had to insist that the site be credited for information used from it in a printed book that's coming out, so I have a strong feeling about who receives credit in this case.

Since RS is a collecting site and the only collecting book I know of that's coming out is Sansweet's (well, Kellerman and one other guy are working on books but they're more vintage oriented and not scheduled yet), and I know that Curto and some others are getting contributor acknowledgements, and Curto's "firing" came about the same time as it was revealed he had input on the Sansweet book, I put two and two together to draw a conclusion.

So, maybe not photos, but I'm just thinking that PW feels that the input that went into the book belongs to him since it was someone from his site that contributed.  I don't know, speculation.  Until Curto talks, or one of his friends that knows the full story leaks it, that's what I came up with.

   E...

Edited because, apparently, I can't spell or use proper grammar after 1AM.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jayson on July 1, 2012, 07:19 AM
I find it ironic that PW is making a point about credit/attribution.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 1, 2012, 11:40 AM
I was wondering about that email with the updated TOS... I wonder if it holds any legal weight without any forced acknowledgement button being needed to get back into the forum?  I didn't have to re-accept them, I only got an email telling me they've changed.  Who's to say who actually received the email with spam filters and old email addresses and all that.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 1, 2012, 12:26 PM
I made it 3 pages into that thread before I had to give up.  There's an awful lot of my-way-or-the-highway stuff, which is understandable.  There's also a lot of no-comment, and "maybe this forum isn't for you."

Phil acknowledges that it's heavy handed... iron fisted seems more accurate to me.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on July 1, 2012, 12:27 PM
Wouldn't it be similar to when a credit card stuffs a new ToS into your statement?  They did their part in sending it.  Not defending the turd, but...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on July 1, 2012, 12:42 PM
I guess.... but I wonder if it's different for online entities?  Every time Apple updates a comma in their TOS I have to accept them before being allowed to update an app on my phone.

I'd also like to add, that I've never seen someone come off as more of an internet sycophant as Ian C does in that thread
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on July 1, 2012, 09:15 PM
Too bad Marty McFly can't go back and tell Sullenger not to merge with Rebelscum...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Chris on July 1, 2012, 10:30 PM
Too bad Marty McFly can't go back and tell Sullenger not to merge with Rebelscum...

+1
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on July 2, 2012, 04:57 PM
+2
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: jedicrippler on July 2, 2012, 09:47 PM
+3
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: R5Don4 on October 24, 2012, 06:58 PM
Oh my, really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content for the front page (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/eBay_Today_1275_BoShek_The_Irrelevance_Of_The_EU_148581.asp)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on October 25, 2012, 06:22 AM
If that is a serious theory, then I would say it doesn't hold any water.  Yoda and Chewbacca depart ways before Yoda even finds out about the twins...how is he supposed to have told Chewie about them?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on October 25, 2012, 07:57 AM
I assume Yoda and Obi-Wan communicated over the two decades between ROTS and ANH.  Maybe they relayed ghost messages via Qui-Gon.  After all, it was Yoda who told Obi-Wan "There is another."

To which Obi-Wan replied off-screen "Well DUH!  I was there when she was born."
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on October 25, 2012, 09:21 AM
It is all a lot speculation since Lucas didn't really seem all that concerned with continuity when he made the prequels.  While the Bo'Shek/Kenobi dialogue is all tongue-in-cheek, the Chewbacca stuff just doesn't have a basis.  Until the Clone Wars cartoon, there really wasn't any reason for Chewbacca to even know who Anakin was besides stories on the holonet.  To assume he was concerned about protecting children that he had no reason to know existed is quite a stretch.  To think Yoda is sitting on Degobah, chatting with Qui-Gon saying "This Wookiee I knew once, Chewbacca he was called.  If meet him Obi-wan should, great help he could be." is also quite a stretch.  Qui-Gon in general kind of muddies up the OT.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Phrubruh on October 25, 2012, 09:47 AM
Who writes this crap on RS? That is the stupidest thing I've ever read.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on October 26, 2012, 04:13 PM
Who writes this crap on RS? That is the stupidest thing I've ever read.

+1
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on November 28, 2012, 06:34 PM
I recognize that larger sites need to generate income to help keep them running, but I swear to God, every time I go to RS they've found another way to add a pop-up, pop-under or flashing banner to waste my time in navigating to what I'm looking for.

Now, they have a pop-under ad linked to the Forum link on their top menu.  Even TVGuide.com and CNN don't do that anymore and they had pop-unders for years.

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2012, 07:29 PM
I visited them the other day and noticed a pop-up thing that circumvented my pop-up blocker.  I was annoyed to say the least.   >:(
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on December 5, 2012, 12:08 AM
So why do people at the otheR site seem to think that Zach Galafianakis will be playing Luke Skywalker (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Probe_Droid_Hasbros_Episode_VIIIX_Action_Figure_Line_149132.asp) in the Sequel Trilogy?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: efranks on December 5, 2012, 09:20 AM
I usually look at who wrote the article before deciding if I give it any serious thought.  Tip; I usually skip that author's posts...

   E...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on December 5, 2012, 09:36 AM
When did Mark Hamill become the Unabomber?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scott on December 5, 2012, 11:12 AM
I usually look at who wrote the article before deciding if I give it any serious thought.  Tip; I usually skip that author's posts...

   E...
You skip posts by a serious membe of the Internet Media?  For shame, sir
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Scockery on December 8, 2012, 05:55 PM
When did Mark Hamill become the Unabomber?

After he returned to Kenobi's house and discovered Obi-Wan's anti-technology manifesto.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on December 8, 2012, 11:50 PM
When did Mark Hamill become the Unabomber?

After he returned to Kenobi's house and discovered Obi-Wan's anti-technology manifesto.

Well, he did have a lot of time on his hands.  YOU try sitting around in a hovel in the desert for 20 years waiting for a kid to grow up!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on December 18, 2013, 04:53 PM
Curious to hear what others here think about the Great Carded Palitoy Scandal of 2013.

I just finished the 38 page thread a few minutes ago. I couldn't even begin to dive into the bottomless threads at SWUK.

It is, at the very least, a fascinating yet disturbing read.



Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on December 18, 2013, 05:00 PM
It's all AFA's fault!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 18, 2013, 07:07 PM
Can I get a synopsis because, basically, I don't want to bother reading any of it.  :-\  Lazy I know, but I like any gossip.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on December 18, 2013, 07:36 PM
A seller from Europe known as ToyToni purchased a large lot of roughly 11,000 unused Vintage backer cards and bubbles 20+ years ago.  Most are dead mint - QC rejections for various minor production errors.  Almost all are Palitoy or German.

Since the purchase he's been assembling C10 MOCs and selling them on his web site as production figures.  For basically 20 years.  He figured out how to manufacture a convincing heat seal.

Somewhere around 1000 of them have been graded by AFA, most 85 or 90.  Some have sold for $1K +.  They were all thought to be genuine until a guy named Joiner posted about the scam to SWFU(c)K a week ago.

So there's tons of fraudulent pieces out there.  The Vintage Palitoy and German markets are going to crater.  AFA lost a ton of credibility.  Dog and cats living together...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 18, 2013, 07:52 PM
I read as much as I could handle. All I can say is I'm glad I haven't spent a lot of money on foreign carded figs.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 18, 2013, 08:01 PM
Thank you, Bill.  That was very succinct and exactly what I needed. 

Wow.  Yeah AFA **** the bed there, eh?  Good on 'em as I'm not a fan of theirs anyhow.

Quote
SWFU(c)K
<---- lolz
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on December 18, 2013, 09:28 PM
That was basically my main takeaway as well, how do you call yourselves an "authority" and let something like this slip past you multiple times over the course of years? Isn't part of being an authority having a comprehensive understanding of the production process and an ability to authenticate actual vintage pieces? Some of those early samples actually looked like they were sealed with a hot iron...ugh.

Not that they are to blame ultimately, culpability rests solely with TT, but they were essentially facilitating the fraud by failing to catch these for what they were. (There seems to be a growing evidence that there are some key details that differentiate these from legitimate Palitoy cards) They certainly did the collecting community a disservice by putting their official stamp of approval on these things. I don't see how they can really have any credibility after this.

Jesus, it is a boatload of dough we are talking about too. I really feel badly for those people who got shafted in this.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on December 18, 2013, 10:15 PM
Holy crap... glad I just collect modern figures. :P I truly feel terrible for anyone who has invested in these figures. Surely this will decimate interest and values in this aspect of the hobby.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 18, 2013, 11:34 PM
Given the $ involved I wonder if a suit could be opened up on AFA?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Greg on December 18, 2013, 11:56 PM
Given the $ involved I wonder if a suit could be opened up on AFA?

I know next-to-nothing about legal stuff, but I would think that for AFA to be liable it would have to be proven that they knew the figures were fakes and graded them anyway. If they were genuinely deceived (and incompetent), I personally wouldn't hold them to be responsible. Same deal if any buyers re-sold these fake figures as real while thinking they were genuine. IMO the original seller is the one who really needs to be held liable and punished.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 19, 2013, 12:32 AM
The original seller yes, but AFA claims authority on this, and graded things as they did...  I could easily see a suit there for at the very least the price paid for the AFA graded item then in that regard...  They were purchased based on this authoritative grading system...  The original seller may very well claim "It's not my job to tell them what these are, they are the ones claiming authority to discern". 

Unfortunately all our lawyers aren't here now.  Where's Sprry and Paul when you need 'em? :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on December 19, 2013, 07:25 AM
Somebody posted the AFA legal disclaimer on their certificates.  It basically said "This is our opinion.  If it's wrong you're SOL."  There isn't an legal recourse against them.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on December 19, 2013, 02:18 PM
Ah ok...  So they were wise enough to cover their asses.  All the more reason I think AFA is a joke ultimately.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on December 19, 2013, 02:35 PM
I haven't read the whole thing yet, but from what I've skimmed it seems that this is another perfect example of why I never moved into carded vintage or AFA collecting.  Too expensive as a hobby, too many potentially negative variables as an investment.   

Eventually, everything's coming off the bubble, and there are fakes galore.  Paying a premium for an acrylic case and an opinion always struck me as a complete waste of money with potential for abuse.


Can someone who's read through all that give me the cliff's notes version?  How was he caught, what is the evidence, has he said anything yet?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on December 19, 2013, 02:36 PM
Somebody posted the AFA legal disclaimer on their certificates.  It basically said "This is our opinion.  If it's wrong you're SOL."  There isn't an legal recourse against them.

Nor should there be unless someone could prove that they were doing it intentionally, at which point it becomes fraud.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on December 19, 2013, 03:24 PM
Can someone who's read through all that give me the cliff's notes version?  How was he caught, what is the evidence, has he said anything yet?

I'll be happy to later this evening, it's too big an undertaking sitting here in the office. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on December 19, 2013, 07:21 PM
I don't think you could sue AFA for the money you spent on a faulty figure unless as Rob stated you can prove fraud or perhaps incompetence on their part.  However, I do think you could sue for damages on the money you spent to have your figures graded.  Despite their disclaimer, they claim to provide an expert opinion on authenticity and have clearly failed to do so for a significant number of items.  If I had spent big money on AFA grading and got screwed by this, I would definitely contact a lawyer to check my options.

I've personally never used them or bought anything graded by them.  I can see the appeal of having a standard assessment of product condition, so that you have a greater level of confidence in high ticket items.  But I don't like the fact that you have to keep the figure in the acrylic case to prove the grading.  I'd want to display my graded stuff with non graded items and not sure how I would do that with some of them boxed in AFA cases.  I do buy acrylic cases for my carded figures, but I can swap figures and even put a loose figure in the case with the cards. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on December 19, 2013, 10:59 PM
Can someone who's read through all that give me the cliff's notes version?  How was he caught, what is the evidence, has he said anything yet?

So this guy makes an offhand comment in the SWFUK forum about how back in the day a huge stash of unused vintage Palitoy cardbacks and bubbles were acquired by a well known dealer called "Toy Toni", somewhere in the neighborhood of 25,000. (Supposedly TT also indicated to this guy at some point he had found a way to heat seal the bubbles onto cards like at the factory.)

People get curious and start asking more questions, it turns out a few other people recollect hearing this story as well, yet find it curious that none of these unused cardbacks ever turned up in any kind of quantity. TT comes one and denies any kind of wrongdoing, and claims to barely even know the person who supposedly sold them to him. (Who it turns out is now dead)

Then it comes out TT actually DID know this guy a lot better than he was letting on, had apparently started an internet business with him, etc. so doubt starts to creep in. This is further cemented when it is revealed that TT has a secondary ebay account he has been using over the years to buy up minty loose and U-graded figures.

At this point the eBay account is hidden from view, and it also comes out he has changed the name on this account over 30 times over the years. People start doing close examinations on carded figures they have brought from this guy and start noticing inconsistencies : blurs, smudges, triangular indentations in bubbles, and printing errors that seem unlikely to have been approved for production. Several of these same flaws are noted on other unused cardback samples from that era.

So this all leads people to conclude that this guy has worked out some method to reseal the vintage bubbles to the vintage cards, using actual vintage figures and then made a small fortune selling them as minty "warehouse finds" over the years. Many of these pieces have been AFA graded as 85-90's.

The original source has since produced a list of many of those unused cardbacks supposedly part of the original deal and they seem to match up with TT's sales history, etc etc. At least one person has confirmed selling loose figures to the suspect ebay account that again match figures which were later sold carded.

There has been some intermittent communication from the accused, an initial denial, but subsequent emails have been brief and somewhat evasive, certainly not what you would characterize as a vigorous self defense.

Whew, I think that is the highlights in a nutshell. It's a lot of people affected and a lot of money and potentially untold damage to the hobby in general. Stuff like that makes me sick, pure human greed.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on December 20, 2013, 04:38 PM
That sounds like a **** show alright...

I always pick the wrong register line at the grocery store, but I really feel like not collecting carded vintage SW was a smart idea.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 21, 2013, 10:53 AM
The only AFA items I have in my collection is the cancelled 2nd wave of Walmart Cantina Figures (the wave that contained Dr. Evazan)

Anyway, nothing was wrong with the figures and the scores were good, but I was horrified to see that on the grading label for Evazan they misspelled the figure name as Evazam.

So I called up AFA and asked if there was anything they would do to fix it and they told me that since I wasn't the person who paid for the grading they wouldn't talk to me and if I had been the one who paid for the grading, I would have had to send it back, authorize for them to break the case (which risks damaging the item) and pay for them to re-grade. So they recommended I send it back to the seller.

I basically told them that they were a joke and that I would never waste my money on their bull**** service.

I still have the piece and it's my representative example of why AFA grading doesn't mean crap.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on December 22, 2013, 10:04 AM
Wow, there's some solid customer service.  What a joke.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 22, 2013, 01:02 PM
That is sad. Especially considering the amount they charge, you'd hope that would equal the quality of customer service. Guess not.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on December 22, 2013, 01:40 PM
This story regarding ToyToni just seems to get worse and worse.  And it makes me so glad that I've never taken the plunge into Vintage carded collecting.

The pessimist in me is not surprised in the least that AFA has disclaimers about their service.  I understand the need to legally protect your business.  But if a grading service won't legally stand behind their professional evaluations of authenticity, then what the hell good are they to anyone at all?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 22, 2013, 01:50 PM
I love my vintage carded collection and wouldn't change the decision to buy the 2/3 of the line I do have carded. With that being said, for the most part I have been fine with the creased cards and so on so I haven't spent nearly what I could have if I was buying so called "excellent" cardbacks and now thinking, "oh my God are these real?".
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on December 22, 2013, 10:03 PM
That is sad. Especially considering the amount they charge, you'd hope that would equal the quality of customer service. Guess not.

what do they charge on average for a 3 3/4" scale Star wars figure?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 23, 2013, 07:28 AM
That is sad. Especially considering the amount they charge, you'd hope that would equal the quality of customer service. Guess not.

what do they charge on average for a 3 3/4" scale Star wars figure?

It depends on what the value of the figure is.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on December 23, 2013, 08:25 AM
I just can't feel bad for anyone that used AFA.  I've always thought sending figures away to be graded was pretentious.   I have a pretty large vintage collection,  but I don't grades on them to show ...what? How great they are?  How much nicer they are than someone else's?   It's a worthless concept IMHO.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on December 23, 2013, 09:22 AM
I just can't feel bad for anyone that used AFA.  I've always thought sending figures away to be graded was pretentious.   I have a pretty large vintage collection,  but I don't grades on them to show ...what? How great they are?  How much nicer they are than someone else's?   It's a worthless concept IMHO.

What you are about to read is very "rambling", mostly me typing my thoughts so read on at your own peril.

These percentages won't make sense, but I agree with you 80%, disagree 10% and am 10% offended.
For the most part what you say makes sense. That being said I have never used AFA, but the attraction to me to it is, using the huge assumption that has clearly been blown to pieces, that AFA is an AUTHORITY, then when someone buys something, especially online, you don't have to hope the picture and the seller's description are accurate. You have a (so called) Authority saying this is what shape the item is in. That has nothing to do with feeling pretentious about my toy being better than yours.

Having said that, my reason for liking the IDEA of AFA doesn't actually work because to me the reason AFA is ruining the vintage market, and thus I actually think this whole scam that started this conversation is bad for Palitoy/German collectors but good for the majority of us vintage carded collectors, is take Brianstoys for example:

Back in the day you could go to the website (or catalog then) and had many overpriced, but still manageable carded vintage figures to choose from. Now anything in decent condition has been sent to AFA, so you get charged the AFA cost plus now we decide the toy is worth 2, 3 times what it was when we just agreed it was in good condition. That is why AFA sucks to me and has poisoned the collecting community. It just makes the price unreasonable because AFA said it's in near mint condition. You end up paying for a number printed on a sticker.

Not that I don't think there are pretentious people who want to say "I have an AFA 90 Luke 12 back and your ungraded one that only looks like an 80 should bow down to mine" out there, but I don't think that is why AFA is bad.

I call myself a "loose collector who keeps his stuff in the package", because I like the packaging and the fact it keeps the stuff together, but am not that concerned about it's condition. That doesn't stop me from liking the idea of what AFA could have been.

Ok, I think my rambling is over.

P.S. My collection would bow down to your collection any day and feel honored Justin.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on December 23, 2013, 09:44 AM
I hear what you're saying and agree that it kills the value of the figure once you have to add in grading costs.  I'll pile on that it bothers me you can never remove the figure once graded, since you're immediately losing the value of the grading cost.  What if I want to display my figure differently?  SOL.  And I hadn't thought of the authentification aspect of what they offer.  From that persepective, which I agree has been blown out of the water, I can absolutely see the value in having some inspect your stuff to ensure that it is real and not a fake, reproduction, etc.  If that was all they did/offered, I would be all for it.  In fact, I might even use it if they could identify pieces through high res pictures or something low cost like that. 

But it still bothers me that they return your item in an acrylic case with some kind of score on it, as though you're playing "Fantasy Collector" and your 75 can be lorded over people with a 70.  Authentification is very different from grading/scoring in my opinion.  I get that it's some people's bag and if they want to pay for that service, then hey, it's their money.  I just have no use for it and I don't think anyone purposely sending figures off to get them "scored" deserves my pity.  Bah humbug.  :)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on December 23, 2013, 10:40 AM
I don't like that they open up vintage figures for U grades.

That's always struck me as blasphemous, even if they are usually ones that are pretty beat up.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on December 23, 2013, 10:57 AM
I don't like that they open up vintage figures for U grades.

That's always struck me as blasphemous, even if they are usually ones that are pretty beat up.

Agreed.  That's their worst sin.  Being grossly incompetent kinda pales in comparison.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Darby on December 23, 2013, 02:28 PM
I've never understood AFA. I totally get using it as a defense against scams, but as has been pointed out, even this is not fail safe and all AFA really does is inflate the price. It also, for me at least, shines a giant light on the fact these are toys, and meant to be played with, or at the very least, degrade. Certainly they have a lot of value to us, sentimentally and financially, but it's turned something very special into something very base. It's not about the toy, it's meaning or value to you personally; it's about the grade. The $$$. That I don't like at all. If this event ends up steering people away from all that, great.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2013, 08:43 AM
I understand their position with the disclaimers, but if you aren't paying them to stand behind their assessment, what are you paying them for? I agree that having a 3rd party evaluate a product to help determine condition has a place in any market where the parties don't interact personally and the purchase can't be inspected by the buyer prior to purchase. Their cost should include them taking some of the risk of errors. But AFA has now shown that their model does not provide any certainty anyhow.
Now to send them some absolutely mint kubrick logray figures for grading before they shut the doors.  >:D  (inside joke for kubie junkies)
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on December 25, 2013, 02:11 PM
I understand their position with the disclaimers, but if you aren't paying them to stand behind their assessment, what are you paying them for? I agree that having a 3rd party evaluate a product to help determine condition has a place in any market where the parties don't interact personally and the purchase can't be inspected by the buyer prior to purchase. Their cost should include them taking some of the risk of errors. But AFA has now shown that their model does not provide any certainty anyhow.
Now to send them some absolutely mint kubrick logray figures for grading before they shut the doors.  >:D  (inside joke for kubie junkies)

This has been obvious from day one.  What are you paying them for?  An acrylic case and an opinion.

They literally can't offer a guarantee or assume an liability, because the whole thing is a matter of opinion.   It's as subjective a thing as there is, and if they didn't have all the disclaimers alleviating themselves of responsibility for mistakes or differences of opinion, they wouldn't stay in business very long.  Something like this disaster with Toy Toni's fakes would certainly be enough to put them out of business if they could be sued for it.  Smartly, they covered their asses from the get go.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 16, 2014, 07:49 AM
Decided to check out the classified section on Rebelscum. Good God there are a lot of a holes on that site. Settle down people. I thought I could get over emotional over toys.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 8, 2018, 12:31 PM
Rebelscum seems to have updated their forum shell / software, and it sucks.

That's all.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Muftak on March 8, 2018, 01:49 PM
Rebelscum seems to have updated their forum shell / software, and it sucks.

That's all.

For some reason, their default PC interface is now the mobile version. If you go to the bottom of the list, you can select "full site" to change it back to normal.

Sometiimes it seems like there's no one at the wheel over there... ???
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 8, 2018, 03:26 PM
So that's just a temporary screw up, that's good at least.  I've never used the mobile version of their site so I had no idea.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: McMetal on March 7, 2019, 05:17 PM
Sorry for not posting a link, but I just got finished reading a new article from Popular Mechanics about PW's stolen Rocket Fett and the ensuing criminal case against that Cunningham ******bag. Pretty interesting read, very comprehensive.

Pretty shameful that asshat never even served a single day in actual jail. IMO.

Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 7, 2019, 06:41 PM
Got a link?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: DSJ™ on March 8, 2019, 01:05 AM
https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/movies/a26364375/star-wars-toy-theft/
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 8, 2019, 11:57 AM
Interesting story.  Hopefully, Cunningham can get his life back on track after all of this.

Pretty shameful acts for (I'm assuming it's RS forum members) all the online harassment he's getting.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on March 9, 2019, 11:01 AM
Thanks Dale... I had random people at work who had read it walk up to me yesterday knowing that I'm into Star Wars stuff... looking forward to reading it in a bit.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 10, 2019, 06:39 PM
My take away was that Star Wars collectors can be pretty big ****heads overall, and Cunningham wasn’t the only person I put that label to.🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on March 11, 2019, 05:19 PM
I'd be curious to know what that guy was doing with all the money.  And how does this all get resolved?  I'm assuming the stolen merchandise gets returned if it can be identified.  Does that mean the buyer is out all that money?  Or does he have to sue to get his money back?
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 11, 2019, 05:29 PM
I'd be curious to know what that guy was doing with all the money.  And how does this all get resolved?  I'm assuming the stolen merchandise gets returned if it can be identified.  Does that mean the buyer is out all that money?  Or does he have to sue to get his money back?

According to the Article, it looks like Cunningham is paying restitution.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on March 11, 2019, 05:33 PM
I'd be curious to know what that guy was doing with all the money.  And how does this all get resolved?  I'm assuming the stolen merchandise gets returned if it can be identified.  Does that mean the buyer is out all that money?  Or does he have to sue to get his money back?

According to the Article, it looks like Cunningham is paying restitution.

I read that he is paying back Sansweet and Tann, but was wondering about anyone else involved with his sales.  I assume he didn't sell everything to Tann - if he had then he wouldn't need to repay Sansweet for anything.  What a mess.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2019, 01:04 AM
I thought it said he'd lost his job and was in financial difficulty so I was guessing he was just paying bills with his "new job", more or less.

I'd like to know all those details too though.  Felt like there was a lot of unanswered stuff. 

I really felt bad for the guy in a way.  He has a family and people do stupid stuff sometimes and need to pay, but redemption seems like it may be within his grasp, but there was no mercy from Sansweet at all.  Not that he is obligated to of course, but I've seen more forgiveness from parents who just lost a child to someone from a DUI than I did from Sansweet to that guy over stolen toys.  Just that whole story was kinda depressing top to bottom.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on March 12, 2019, 07:13 AM
I have a hard time finding any mercy for the guy either.  It isn't like he stole some POTF2 carded figures.  He stole a freaking Rocket Firing Boba Fett among other rare items.  We are talking hundreds of thousands of dollars in collectables.  He also stole from people who considered him a friend and invited him into their homes.  Sansweet said he knew him for 20 years.  I would be pretty pissed, even at this point if I were Steve.  I have a hard enough time keeping track of my collection on excel that I can't even imagine having to re-inventory everything like Steve had to do.  I don't think the article really goes into to detail as to what was stolen besides the Fett, but I could hazard a guess that some of the stuff would be really hard to replace.  Finding a rocket firing Fett isn't an easy task.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: BillCable on March 12, 2019, 08:10 AM
From my conversations with people who were directly involved with this mess, Cunningham is a genuine sociopath.  They're pissed that this article portrays him with any sympathy.   He probably manipulated the authors to get favorable coverage in the same way he manipulated Sansweet and Wise to get access to their collections.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 12, 2019, 08:21 AM
Using trust and friendship to screw someone makes it real tough for me to have any sympathy for the guy.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: JediJman on March 12, 2019, 10:21 AM
I pity the guy, not sure if I have any sympathy for him.  Stealing is stealing.  I don't think it matters if it was a $2 clearance figure or a Rocket Firing Fett.  You took something that wasn't yours on multiple occasions from multiple people.  The fact that he did it to friends makes it all the more disgusting.  I'm not endorsing robbing strangers, but I can see where Sansweet was shaken by it being someone he trusted.  Imagine a good friend is over checking out your collection and decides to pocket a few things.  That's a tough betrayal to swallow, and you're left constantly wondering what else might be missing.  The only person(s) I feel bad for here are his kids. 
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2019, 03:04 PM
I guess I just feel bad in general about the situation.

And if he truly is a sociopath it sounds like he’s trying to get help with that now.  Like I said I’ve seen people who lost a loved one to someone’s negligence or simple lack of giving a **** and I have seen more sympathy.  I can’t blame Sansweet either though.  You feel how you feel.  Like I said I’ve had things stolen from me, by a friend.  Didn’t want the guy’s life in total shambles from it I just wanted him to pay for it and get help for why he did it.  Didn’t wanna be his friend anymore either though haha.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 12, 2019, 04:44 PM
I guess I just feel bad in general about the situation.

And if he truly is a sociopath it sounds like he’s trying to get help with that now.  Like I said I’ve seen people who lost a loved one to someone’s negligence or simple lack of giving a **** and I have seen more sympathy.  I can’t blame Sansweet either though.  You feel how you feel.  Like I said I’ve had things stolen from me, by a friend.  Didn’t want the guy’s life in total shambles from it I just wanted him to pay for it and get help for why he did it.  Didn’t wanna be his friend anymore either though haha.
Dammit Jesse, how many times do I have to say I don't know how your portable safe ended up in my car?!   ;D
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2019, 08:48 PM
Well your excuse of "underpants gnomes probably put it there" didn't really fly with me, sorry.

And for the last time, it wasn't portable.  You ripped it out of the subflooring.  That's NOT portable!
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on June 27, 2021, 02:22 PM
For once I actually went to the main page of Rebelscum and was shocked to read this:  Philip Wise:  I'm retiring from Rebelscum.com (http://rebelscum.com/Imperial_Set.asphttp://rebelscum.com/story/front/Im_Retiring_From_Rebelscumcom_188762.asp)

New management is set to take control soon.  And even Phil acknowledged in his announcement that there will probably be an uptick in their content output.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jeff on June 27, 2021, 03:05 PM
New management is set to take control soon.  And even Phil acknowledged in his announcement that there will probably be an uptick in their content output.

So... an online shop/reseller is now in control of Rebelscum?  I'm guessing the "uptick" will be heavily ad related then? :P
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 27, 2021, 11:18 PM
Hmmm… I guess it was bound to happen eventually. 

 I still use their forum a little… mostly for Gentle Giant stuff.  I hope the new guys don’t rock the boat too much.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: EdSolo on June 28, 2021, 06:51 AM
Probably over a decade ago it was a daily stop for me.  The photo archive is still a good resource, especially for determining when something was released and what it originally sold for.  That is really the only thing I have used the site for recently.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on June 28, 2021, 07:37 AM
The quality of the RS front page content has been in decline for a while.  The best period for it was probably when Curto and Dave Myatt were the principle contributors.  But even if you look at the photo archive, they're struggling to keep it anywhere near current.  That was always a big draw for me - especially when they were comparing similar figures, and documenting repaints over time.  But that's changed, and I usually go to JediBusiness for their photo archive.  And on the news front?  Yakface has been eating everyone's lunch on that front for a few years now.  And they have been able to do that without playing the access game with Hasbro that so many other sites have to do.

The forums are.... the forums.  There's a lot of discussion, sure.  But I'm equally curious about what direction the main page will go in with the new management.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Dave on June 28, 2021, 10:04 AM
Probably over a decade ago it was a daily stop for me.  The photo archive is still a good resource, especially for determining when something was released and what it originally sold for.  That is really the only thing I have used the site for recently.

That is probably the only reason I've gone to their site over the past four years also.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 28, 2021, 10:05 AM
New management is set to take control soon.  And even Phil acknowledged in his announcement that there will probably be an uptick in their content output.

So... an online shop/reseller is now in control of Rebelscum?  I'm guessing the "uptick" will be heavily ad related then? :P

That was the main reason I left RS in the first place.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Diddly on June 28, 2021, 01:39 PM
Probably over a decade ago it was a daily stop for me.  The photo archive is still a good resource, especially for determining when something was released and what it originally sold for.  That is really the only thing I have used the site for recently.

That is probably the only reason I've gone to their site over the past four years also.

Same, in addition to their "Local Store Finds" section in the forums. But a lot of locals got out of collecting before the Sequels came out, so I haven't been to RS in years.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on June 29, 2021, 08:02 AM
The main page is now surrounded by absolutely enormous ads, and if you click anywhere in those margin ads you're going to get directed to the advertiser.  It's pretty ridiculous.  The news section now accounts for maybe 30 % of the width of the main page on my screen.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 29, 2021, 11:40 AM
Ad Block Plus.

I don't have a single ad on their front page.

Not that I ever go to their front page...
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Jesse James on June 30, 2021, 07:58 PM
Wise sold it out to a reseller!?  ******* shocking stuff. 😐

Like Nick said, Yakface has been really the only news source now for a while, besides Bossk’s Bounty getting some scoops.  Outside that, it’s dead everywhere else and that’s fine I guess.  Sometimes a qna yields something, but rarely.

As communities go, this is the only one I enjoy.  Disgust groups are just full of toxicity...  and the other forums are no better, and increasingly fewer.  I’m content with the friends I made here.  Not a lot of new guys I feel I’d relate to, and not even a lot of older collectors I relate to anymore now that many of them are batshit insane.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Rob on June 30, 2021, 08:05 PM
As communities go, this is the only one I enjoy.  Disgust groups are just full of toxicity...  and the other forums are no better, and increasingly fewer.  I’m content with the friends I made here.  Not a lot of new guys I feel I’d relate to, and not even a lot of older collectors I relate to anymore now that many of them are batshit insane.

Same for me.  I get info about Gentle Giant from RS, but I don't have people there who I've met in real life, or have any kind of rapport with.  It's just you knuckleheads.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CorranHorn on July 2, 2021, 11:17 PM
I’m content with the friends I made here.  Not a lot of new guys I feel I’d relate to, and not even a lot of older collectors I relate to anymore now that many of them are batshit insane.

Hey! I represent that comment lol.

You have to wonder what is really in it for the buyer. I imagine just a means to get the list of forum member email addresses for marketing purposes and to throw more ads on the front page. RS hasn’t been a news worthy site since Curto left almost a decade ago. The change in RS now or tomorrow is insignificant nowadays.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 3, 2021, 01:44 PM
I'm happy with these forums as well.  Yakface is good for news, but I'm not even a member of their forums.  The various Facebook groups are barely better than RS everyone always trying to buy everyone else's stuff!  Frankly, I'm surprised I don't see the open vs loose debate over there as well like what was on RS back in the day.

I started a YouTube channel just for the creative outlet and some fun and I have people on there trying to get me to sell parts of my collection as well!  No one can be happy with what they have.  At least here we can joke around and just talk about the hobby....that's what I love.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Nicklab on July 4, 2021, 05:50 AM
You have to wonder what is really in it for the buyer. I imagine just a means to get the list of forum member email addresses for marketing purposes and to throw more ads on the front page. RS hasn’t been a news worthy site since Curto left almost a decade ago. The change in RS now or tomorrow is insignificant nowadays.

The value of user data is something that tends to go by most people without much regard, but there can be significant value there in large communities.  In the case of RS, I don't know if that's even worth it because I get the sense that their user data might largely be dated.  But I would not put it past the new owners to sell the user data to whomever.
Title: Re: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: CorranHorn on July 4, 2021, 10:43 PM
You have to wonder what is really in it for the buyer. I imagine just a means to get the list of forum member email addresses for marketing purposes and to throw more ads on the front page. RS hasn’t been a news worthy site since Curto left almost a decade ago. The change in RS now or tomorrow is insignificant nowadays.

The value of user data is something that tends to go by most people without much regard, but there can be significant value there in large communities.  In the case of RS, I don't know if that's even worth it because I get the sense that their user data might largely be dated.  But I would not put it past the new owners to sell the user data to whomever.

Exactly my thinking. While there is value is that amount of data it has to definitely be dated. Hell my member ID is linked to a Yahoo email account I killed a decade ago. How many others are in similar situations. Oh well it’s their money right?