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Title: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 07:45 PM
Battle of Endor from Episode VI will include 8 figures, each with a bonus holographic mini figure

Here's what I would like to see:

--SA Scout Trooper
--Endor Rebel Soldier (Saga 2002 or SA)
--Imperial Officer (POTJ 2001/Saga 2002)
--some Ewok 2-packs:
--------repacked Wicket from POTF2/OTC and POTJ Teebo--he roolz all.
--------new Chief Chirpa and repacked Logray (medicine man).
--------mother Ewok and Wokling
--------two other Ewoks (new or kitbashed/repaints)

Realistically, of course, there will have to be room for SA Hans, Lukes, and Leias but in my imaginary world those slots would have Ewoks.

DoctorPadawan's idea of an AT-ST Driver (AT-ST Han with new head and arm) would be cool too.

In addition, assuming there are vehicles and Deluxe/Ultra figures with each wave:

--repack of the Saga Ultra Ewok on glider
--repacked AT-ST
--a new 4-pack Ewoks troop builder in the Deluxe line
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on July 17, 2005, 08:22 PM
Here's how I think they might go about this wave -

BATTLE OF ENDOR (8 figures):

-SA Endor Poncho Princess Leia (new)
-SA Endor Poncho Luke Skywalker (new)
-Endor Rebel Trooper (new)
-SA Scout Trooper (new)
-Nien Numb (new)
-Teebo (Saga repack)
-Death Star Trooper (POTF2 repack)
-General Lando Calrissian (OTC repack)

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 10:02 PM
I would be pretty surprised if the OTC Han AT-ST driver isn't reused.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on July 17, 2005, 10:06 PM
I would hope if would be something like the following:

SA Luke Endor - Poncho, Rem Helmet, Blaster, Lighsaber
SA Leia Endor - Poncho, Blaster
SA Han with removeable Trench Coat - AT-ST Helmet only and Blaster
SA Biker Scout - but I bet we get clean and dirty variants repacks again
Chief Chirpa & Mother Ewok and Wookling Pack - Looooooong overdue IMO.  
Death Star Trooper repack - They were in a few scenes here...repack of course.
C-3PO - with "Floating" Chair  accessory
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 17, 2005, 10:13 PM
My Dream Lineup:

SA Scout Trooper w/ Scout blaster and Mouse Droid
OTC Han AT-ST w/ New generic head sculpt and Blaster
Wicket and Teebo 2 Pack w/ Spears
SA Han Trench Coat w/ Blaster
SA Rebel Trooper
Admirial Piett w/ Blaster and Baton
POTJ R2-Q5 w/ DS2 Holo
SA Nien Nunb

Playset/Vehicles
TIE Bomber
AT-ST
POTF2 Imperial Bunker Playset
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 17, 2005, 10:20 PM
Just thought I'd repost my original list from the longer "VOTC/OTC Returns" thread, since there is now a relevant place for it.  I also kind of expanded it a little to explain a little better what I'd like to see in each figure.  :)

BATTLE OF ENDOR (8 figures):

-SA Endor Poncho Princess Leia (soft goods poncho, removable helmet, holster on belt, and blaster)

-SA Endor Poncho Luke Skywalker (soft goods poncho, removaable helmet, lightsaber hilt, lightsaber, handcuffs)

-SA Endor Trenchcoat Han Solo (soft goods coat, blaster, AT-ST Driver helmet, mines)

-SA Scout Trooper (blaster pistol, clean and dirty versions)

-AT-ST Driver (Saga 2004/OTC 2004 AT-ST Han with new head and arm, possibly with Richard Marquand's likeness)

-Endor Rebel Soldier (Saga 2002, with new head or heads)

-Imperial Officer (POTJ 2001/Saga 2002 in gray uniforms and new heads)

-Ewoks in some form, particularly Chief Chirpa and Paploo

If we're including vehicles, I officially cast my vote for a new Speeder Bike with a third paint variant of the Biker Scout.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 10:26 PM
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a third paint variant of the Biker Scout

Eh? Clean, dirty, and ....?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 17, 2005, 10:30 PM
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Eh? Clean, dirty, and ....?

Smelly?  Drunken?   ;D

(I'll admit, I didn't think that through too well)  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 10:32 PM
;)

Well, you could do Clean, Dirty (smudgy), and Laser-scorched.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 11:16 PM
How about Jedi Spirit Anakin Skywalker with swappable Sebastian Shaw and Hayden Christensen heads? I'm dead serious BTW. :)

Or even an update of the POTF2 Jedi Spirits Cinema Scene with OTC Ghost Ben and upgraded Yoda and Anakin.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on July 17, 2005, 11:29 PM
Battle of Endor from Episode VI will include 8 figures, each with a bonus holographic mini figure

OK, let's see - here's what I would like to see in a Battle of Endor Wave:

8 Figures - I'll assume 4 new, 4 repaints:

4 NEW Figures:
SA Luke Skywalker (Jedi Outfit) w/Endor Poncho and Helmet
SA Princess Leia (Endor) w/Endor Poncho and Helmet
SA Han Solo w/Trenchcoat and AT-ST Helmet
SA Scout Trooper (no variants!)


4 Repack/Repaint Figures:
AT-ST Driver - the one from the TRU 4-pack
Admiral Ackbar - a recognizable character who hasn't been out since '97

And finally, use the Wicket/Logray Mold to give me two different Ewok 2-Packs:
(http://starwars.com/databank/species/ewok/img/movie_bg.jpg)

A) brown/tan with short spear
B) gray/black with 'rock-on-a-stick' club
C) reddish-brown with bow/quiver
D) dark brown with long spear

Call them Lumat, Romba, Warok, and Wompus.

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 18, 2005, 12:51 AM
My predictions:

BATTLE OF ENDOR (8 figures):

-Princess Leia; SA with softgoods poncho and removeable helmet. Includes blaster.
-Luke Skywalker; SA with poncho and removeable helmet. Includes lightsaber.
-Endor Rebel Trooper; SA with possible head variant, includes blaster and rifle.
-Scout Trooper; SA with pistol.
-Ewoks 3 pack; Includes Wicket, Teebo, and Chief Chirpa with staffs.
-C-3PO; The long awaited SA version with articulated knees. Includes "throne".
-Royal Guard; ROTS Repack with blaster and staff.
-General Lando Calrissian (OTC repack)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jagdohh_Fett on July 18, 2005, 01:21 AM
I'd definitely be surprised if there were no Ewoks, but besides them I'd like an Endor Leia, Endor Luke, Chewie, Scout Trooper, and a new Admiral Ackbar.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 18, 2005, 01:27 AM
Lot's of possibilities here. Yeah, a new Luke, Leia and Han would rock, but I'd really want to see a new scouttrooper (SA) and an ewok or two.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 18, 2005, 01:32 AM
My wishlist....

New Sculpts

Chief Chirpa/Wicket 2 pack (new sculpts)
Nien Nunb (resculpt)
SA Scout Trooper
SA Admiral Ackbar
Sa Rebel Soldier w/ Blaster rifle and 3 interchangeable heads (I'm dreaming I know)

Repacks
General Calrissian(Saga)
Paploo (Exclusive AT-ST repack and repaint)
C-3PO (ROTS, w/kitbashed legs and ewok throne)

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 18, 2005, 02:13 AM
Now here's a suggestion completely out of left field: a rerelease of the
Vintage EWOK BATTLE WAGON

Info at Toys R Gus (http://www.toysrgus.com/index.php?action=disp_item&item_id=39636)

Info at 12back.com (http://www.12back.com/vehicles/wagon.php3)

I'm sure I'm the only one who thinks that would be unspeakably nifty. ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 18, 2005, 04:10 AM
Lots of possibilities here, and Endor's one of the areas of Star Wars that REALLY needs lots of resculpts and new figures to it too.  One of the remaining untapped "scenes".

There's lots I'd like, but these are my top wants:

-SA Endor Luke...  Softgoods poncho, helmet, rem. belt, saber (hooks to belt), blaster (I'm forgetting if he had one on his belt)...  And ideal would be a removable vest under his poncho so he could double as a Death Star Luke too.  One can dream.

-SA Leia Endor...  Same as Luke, just different gear of course... 

-SA Han Solo Endor...  Softgoods trenchcoat would be fantastic at this stage of the game.

-SA Scouttrooper...  Name says it all.  Include ball/socket hips for riding speederbikes and that'd be sweet.

-SA Endor Soldier...  I'd really dig both the distinct uniforms getting a SA resculpt.  POTF2's all-green, and the Saga's uniform that didn't have the heavier coat over it.  The Endor Rebels have gotten the shaft though.

-SA Dressellian Commando...  No eyepatch, or at least an eyepatch you can take off for a neutral or Orrimarko figure.  Softgoods cape would rock too, so you could put the hood up.

-Rebel in Bikerscout Disguise...  If they did an SA Bikerscout, I'd dig this character down the line.  Removable helmet, and I'd be set.

-SA Death Star Trooper...  The bummer with him is that the DST's on Endor had on jumpsuits.  They weren't the ANH guys in tunics and jagdpuhr trousers.  I'd almost rather they did an SA style of the ANH DST, and kitbashed the jumpsuited Death Star Troopers...  I'd take complete resculpts of both though, of course. :)

-Imperial Officer...  Lots of possibilities there, from anything from Jerjerrod to a generic guy.

-Ewok Damage VOTC Stormtrooper...  See the VOTC Stormie re-released with scuffs on him.  Maybe an arrow you can attach to a chink in his armor? :)

-Ewoks...  Almost anything is acceptable at this point, though re-releases don't interest me.

And on that note...

I really think an Ewok army builder 2-pack (or larger multi-pack) would be fantastic.  My ideal would be this:

-Ework 4-pack (or more)...  Complete re-use of the Teebo sculpt (it's the most articulated, neutral size/sculpt).  Multiple fur colors/patterns (all unique).  Wicket figure's hood cast in multiple colors.  Multiple weapons (bows, quivers, pouches/belts, spears, stone axes).

It'd be great if the Ewoks were named...  If the hoods were all new, you could sorta clean out some of the vintage figures that we haven't gotten yet, but I'd be ok with generic warriors too and just let the vintage figs get taken care of in the basic line.

I'd love this Ewok set though, but sadly it seems like Hasbro has Ewok-phobia.  Funny how kids are always considered so important to Hasbro publicly, but one of the most kid-friendly characters/species in the SW galaxy is so grossly overlooked by them.

I love Ewoks myself...  They're actually some of my favorite characters (and a sequence in the trilogy I enjoy) but they just don't get much play as action figures from Hasbro.   :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on July 18, 2005, 09:23 AM
I agree with Jesse, I think the Battle of Endor is one of the most untapped areas of the Saga so far.  Lots of choices here for resculpts, new figures, etc.  This would be my lineup, although it is probably unlikely that we'd get this many "new" figures in one wave.  My top three choices would be new, SA sculpts of the "big three" rebels.  I think we'll get at least one of them, maybe two, but not all three unfortunately.  Anyways...

SA Endor Luke Skywalker (with the works, helmet, removable cloth poncho/helmet, lightsaber, etc.)
SA Endor Han Solo (cloth trenchcoat would be great, this is one of my most wanted figures)
SA Endor Princess Leia (the works, like Luke, remocable poncho/helmet, etc.)
SA Biker Scout (easy choice, so popular, we all want one...come on Hasbro, do it ;))
Chief Chirpa (one of the best known Ewoks, and we're about due for a new one)
Logray/Wicket 2 Pack (new sculpt would be great here, but might be asking for too many "new" sculpts in this wave)
Admiral Ackbar (new sculpt would be nice here too, but POTF2 is ok too.  A figure I don't have yet, so I wouldn't mind seeing him re-released)

Other possible repacks - General Madine, General Lando, repainted Ewoks, etc.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2005, 11:27 AM
I want these 5:

SA Han
SA Luke (with removable poncho and helmet and DSII Jedi Garb)
SA Leia
SA Scout
SA Chief Chirpa

I'd take a 2 pack of Ewok repaints and a new Imperial Dignitary as well

5 new figures is pushing it though methinks
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2005, 12:14 AM
My personal eight:

-Luke Skywalker - Endor gear w/ removable helmet, SG poncho, SA
-Princess Leia - Endor gear w/ removable helmet, SG poncho, SA
-Biker Scout - SA
-Chief Chirpa
-Arvel Crynyd - the real one who rammed the Executor Bridge
-Moff Jerjerrod
-Imperial Dignitary - Sate Pestage
-Imperial Gantry Droid
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 22, 2005, 11:11 AM

-SA Dressellian Commando...  No eyepatch, or at least an eyepatch you can take off for a neutral or Orrimarko figure.  Softgoods cape would rock too, so you could put the hood up.

-Rebel in Bikerscout Disguise...  If they did an SA Bikerscout, I'd dig this character down the line.  Removable helmet, and I'd be set.


Great ideas! I love comming across these little jems...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darby on July 23, 2005, 06:06 AM
New Stuff:

SA Scout Trooper - or Hasbro will hear about it!
SA Endor Luke Evolutions style - doubles as DS2 Duel Luke
SA Endor Leia ditto
SA Endor Han ditto again

But since we won't get all three of those at once, I expect we'll get Chief Chirpa here one way or another.

Repacks/Rehashes
VOTC Chewie (Yeah, right)
Any combo of 2 Ewoks
Anakin Spirit (Hayden)
ROTS 3-PO

Dream Come True:
SA All New No More Hatin' On Him Wedge Antilles
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on October 10, 2005, 11:36 AM
Here's my Final Deluxe Special Edition List:
Battle Of Endor (8 Figs):

Repacks:
POTJ R2-Q5
OTC Wicket

New/Repaints:
Moff JerJerrod based of Ozzel sculpt w/ blaster, baton, and DS2 Holo
NEW SA Scout Trooper w/ scout pistol, E-11, detonators, mouse droid, and dirty/clean variant
NEW SA Dressel Commando w/ blaster rifle, detonators, and soft goods
NEW SA Generic Ewok w/ spear, bow, and E-11
NEW SA Sim Aloo w/ knive
NEW SA Admirial Ackbar w/ pistol, baton, and removable shirt

Playsets/Vehicles:
Vintage Ewok Village
POTF2 Imperial Bunker
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on October 18, 2005, 11:09 AM
Seeing some of the recards coming out in the new SAGA series makes me believe we might see the Millennium Mint Leia and Luke released this way. 

Hopefully they wont repack any of the older ewoks released to date (Wicket, Logray and Teebo).  I could live with the Paploo pack-in if they give him some decent accessories. 

My call:

MM Luke
MM Leia
Paploo
Scout Trooper (SA?)
Han Endor (New)
C-3PO (articulated knees)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on October 18, 2005, 11:14 AM
I said it earlier, but I'll say it again.  I want more ewoks.  I know we are supposed to dislike the ewoks, but they really have been neglected in the new era - no Chirpa, no Warok, no Romba, no Lumat. 

They really need to break out that Wicket/Logray Mold to give me two different Ewok 2-Packs:
(http://starwars.com/databank/species/ewok/img/movie_bg.jpg)

A) brown/tan with short spear
B) gray/black with 'rock-on-a-stick' club
C) reddish-brown with bow/quiver
D) dark brown with long spear

Call them Lumat, Romba, Warok, and Wompus.

And maybe use the Teebo mold to do up a new Chief Chirpa somewhere down the line too.   :-*
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on October 18, 2005, 11:16 AM
I said it earlier, but I'll say it again.  I want more ewoks.  I know we are supposed to dislike the ewoks, but they really have been neglected in the new era - no Chirpa, no Warok, no Romba, no Lumat. 

They really need to break out that Wicket/Logray Mold to give me two different Ewok 2-Packs:
(http://starwars.com/databank/species/ewok/img/movie_bg.jpg)

A) brown/tan with short spear
B) gray/black with 'rock-on-a-stick' club
C) reddish-brown with bow/quiver
D) dark brown with long spear

Call them Lumat, Romba, Warok, and Wompus.

And maybe use the Teebo mold to do up a new Chief Chirpa somewhere down the line too.   :-*

I totally agree on the Ewoks but dont put much faith in Hasbro. I forsee a few more being released and thats it.  This would make a great EE Exclusve 4-pack similar to the Droids and Clones released.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on October 18, 2005, 11:29 AM
Speak of the devil, more news from the rumor mill found it's way to my in-box.

*new* - Chief Chirpa
*new* - Moff Jerjerrod
*new* - Death Star Gunner
?? - C-3PO (Endor)
?? - Endor Rebel Commando
(repack) - Luke Skywalker (Jedi)
(repack) - Darth Vader
(repack) - The Emperor

Not sure if it's 3PO or the Endor Rebel who is new.   :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mikey D on October 18, 2005, 11:36 AM

Not sure if it's 3PO or the Endor Rebel who is new.   :-\

That other site calls the 3PO Ewok Diety, so hopefully that means new with articulated knees and a chair so those furry bastards can carry him.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on October 18, 2005, 12:16 PM
Crap.  No Endor Luke or Leia ???  What the hell is Hasbro waiting for on these two?  Maybe if we ever get the rumored POTF VOTC we might see the Luke.  Jedi Luke only needed a helmet from the accessory set and a poncho.  We got hosed. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on October 18, 2005, 12:21 PM
Crap.  No Endor Luke or Leia ???  What the hell is Hasbro waiting for on these two?  Maybe if we ever get the rumored POTF VOTC we might see the Luke.  Jedi Luke only needed a helmet from the accessory set and a poncho.  We got hosed. 

I feel your pain… I've wanted a retooled Endor Luke & Leia forever now.

That Saga Luke's legs, arms and head could be reused, but the torso would have to be resculpted (minus the Jedi tunic)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on October 18, 2005, 01:34 PM
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Speak of the devil, more news from the rumor mill found it's way to my in-box.

*new* - Chief Chirpa
*new* - Moff Jerjerrod
*new* - Death Star Gunner
?? - C-3PO (Endor)
?? - Endor Rebel Commando
(repack) - Luke Skywalker (Jedi)
(repack) - Darth Vader
(repack) - The Emperor

Not sure if it's 3PO or the Endor Rebel who is new.

Although I'm quite happy to pick up Chirpa, Moff Jerjerrod, and the Death Star Gunner - they would/should all make great figures - I'm kind of disappointed with this wave overall.  If this is what it turns out to be, its an ok wave, but could have been better.  It was probably wishful thinking on my part, but I was hoping for these figures (or at least 2 out of 4):

Endor Luke Skywalker (SA, all the accessories)
Endor Princess Leia (SA, ditto)
Endor Han Solo (SA, soft goods trench)
SA Scout Trooper

I really thought (or was hoping) we'd get either a SA Snowtrooper from the Hoth wave, or a SA Scout from this wave.  They could re-use both of the molds to make ROTS clones as well (Mygeeto/BARC).  Otherwise, the new figures and overall waves look good, but I would have liked to see at least a couple of these get thrown in too.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 18, 2005, 01:51 PM
I have to say that I'm a little excited for a new Death Star Gunner. The one we have is sooooooo crappy, and it really
sticks out like a sore thumb in my Imperial Forces setup.

And speaking of Imperial Forces, I'm really happy for a Moff Jerjerrod finally.

And of course, I'm down with some more 'woks.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 18, 2005, 03:20 PM
Chief Chirpa -- Yay!
Moff Jerjerrod -- Double yay! :P
Death Star Gunner -- I'll get one, but I won't be army building with him.
C-3PO (Endor) -- withholding decision
Endor Rebel Commando -- withholding decision, probably buy one
Luke Skywalker (Jedi) -- withholding decision, more than likely pass
Darth Vader -- same as above
The Emperor -- same as above
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on October 18, 2005, 06:53 PM
Chief Chirpa -- Well it's a step in the right direction towards more Ewoks. I'll definitely be picking him up, as well as extras for customizing.

Moff Jerjerrod -- I'm really Glad we are seeing more Imperial officers, there is potentila to army build with this guy, I'll be picking up quite a few.

Death Star Gunner -- Awesome. I really wanted a new one, and since he is in this wave maybe that frees up a spot for a Death Star Trooper in the Death Star Wave? :) I'll be picking up a small army.

C-3PO (Endor) -- If he is new and has benible knees and a chair, Definitely. If it is SA with no accessories, I'll still ppick a few up and would be just as happy.

Endor Rebel Commando -- If nothing else I'll pickup some more to customize.

Luke Skywalker (Jedi) -- If this is the Throne room Luke, I'll be pissed but it will be an easy pass.

Darth Vader -- We had a Vader already in the Hoth wave, and I'm willing to bet We get another one in the Death Satr Wave. I'll probably pass.

The Emperor -- If it is new I'll buy one. If not It had better be the evolution Emperor, with plain hands and his lightning hands.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 18, 2005, 07:19 PM
Interesting. Although I'm all for a gunner, he seems out of place. Watch him be a POTF2 Gunner head and an officer body. :P

Chirpa and Jerjrror are excellent choices, but the repack of Jedi luke seems misplased unless it's the final duel one.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: John C on October 18, 2005, 08:12 PM
I'll buy the gunner, Moff and Chirpa most likely.   If 3PO has articulated knees and the Endor Rebel is new, I'll buy them, too.  I'm guessing the Luke is the crap Saga preposed horror currently in the Battle Pack, so I'll pass.  I would only buy the Vader if he's the VOTC one.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on October 18, 2005, 09:12 PM
Chirpa- Don't prefer Ewoks. Pass.

Moff Jerjerrod- Definite buy. Always good to have more Imperials.

Imperial Gunner- Same as Moff.

C-3P0- Pass.

Endor Commando- Hopefully this will be a new sculpt, if it is I would have prefered a Dressel or Sullustan Commando but I might get this.

Vader/Luke/Emperor- Pass.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darby on October 18, 2005, 11:08 PM
Another Yay!/WTF? wave.  I think they all are.

Chief Chirpa: Finally. 

Jerjerrod: Every wave seems to have one figure I could care less about.

Death Star Gunner: This is a nice surprise, but it would have to be seriously SA for me to go gonzo over.

3-PO: If it's not articulated, then no one will care.

Endor Commando: Probably a repack/head swap.  Pass.

Luke: I'm sure it's the lame Throne room thing.  Pass.

Vader: Ditto.

Emperor: Ditto.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Scott on October 18, 2005, 11:11 PM
Yeah I'm shocked they didn't work Endor Han, Luke, Leia and Scout Trooper in somehow, I'm stoked to finally have Chirpa though
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on October 19, 2005, 05:40 AM
Chief Chirpa: Yep, I'll buy.
 Moff Jerjerrod: Another I'll buy.
Death Star Gunner: If truly new, yep, more money out of the wallet.
C-3PO (Endor): Still waiting for the ultimate SA. I doubt it is this one.
Endor Rebel Commando: Maybe one if it is not a rehash of the Saga wave. 
Luke Skywalker (Jedi): Pass. Watch, it will be the Luke that is striking down on Vader . . . . (joke).
 Darth Vader: Pass
The Emperor: Pass
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on October 19, 2005, 07:04 AM
I'm pretty pissed were not getting a SA Scout Trooper, my most wanted figure. Why Hasbro WHY!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 19, 2005, 03:20 PM
Chief Chirpa - Bout time. I don't really have an opinion on the Ewoks one way or another, but I'll probably pick this guy up.

Moff jerrjerod - Dunno, maybe. I'll have to see him first.

Death Star Gunner - This one might be cool, especially if he's got the SA treatment.

There's way too many repacks in this wave though by the sounds of it. We'll have to see where this goes, hopefully there'll be another new one in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on October 19, 2005, 09:13 PM
I will echo the same stuff mostly. 

Chief Chirpa - Finally one step closer to getting all the vintage ewoks remade. 

Moff Jerrorod (sp?) - I did not if they ever would make this guy.  Glad that they are. 

Gunner - It's ok I actually like the previous one but do for an update. 

Luke and Vader could be cool - Have to wait and see.

C-3PO - Again could be cool hope for articulated knees! 

Endor Commando - Could care less really. 

Emperor - Have to wait and see. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ROTJLuke on October 24, 2005, 07:55 PM
Hey everybody, first off Im glad to be here  8) Im 50/50 on this wave. Ive been waiting for a SA (or at least one on par with the ROTS Pilot Obi-Wan or Dooku) DSII Duel Luke for a decade. I thought that we may get one here, but it does seem highly unlikely, and it will be the horrendous TRD Luke. Then again, maybe hasbro will suprise us all and make this figure all new.

Chief Chirpa- Glad to see more ewoks, def. gonna pick this one up
Moff Jerjerrod-Def. Pick up, FINALLY glad to see him
Gunner- Maybe, Id prefer this one be kitbashed as opposed to all new
C-3PO-ony if its got ball jointed knees and his throne
Endor Commando- HAHHAHA...yea right
Emperor-Id be satisfied with the Evolutions repack, but itll prob. be the crappy Saga one
Vader-Only if its the Evolutions Vader
Luke-yes, but because Im a hardcore Jedi Luke collector, and Im praying hasbro doesnt cop out on this one, and if they do, hopefully the rumors of the VOTC/Evolutions comming back are true, and we get a great DSII Duel Luke in either one,(VOTC underneath the poncho and helmet, EVOLUTIONS with a removable cloth jedi tunic.) Id be happy with that, because then theres a great chance we'd see him individually carded down the road.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: blaster_e11 on October 27, 2005, 01:18 PM
looks like i'm only goin to buy the moff and the gunner :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ben on October 27, 2005, 10:59 PM
I was kind of hoping for redone versions of Han, Luke, and Leia in their trenchcoat and ponchos.

Guess I'll have to keep waiting.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on October 30, 2005, 01:16 AM
I'm pretty pissed were not getting a SA Scout Trooper, my most wanted figure. Why Hasbro WHY!

I was thinking the same thing when I read the list. A Death Star Gunner over a Biker Scout. Riiiiiiiiiight
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on October 30, 2005, 02:07 AM
Blaster_E11, you're not the only one...  For my dollar, if it saves Hasbro some money I'm ok with (as long as it's a good sculpt) seeing them re-use IMperial Officer bodies to make new specific Officers from the film...  So to that end I think Jerjerrod could be cool.  If he's all new and even more poseable than an average Officer we've seen, I'll be ecstatic really since Impy Officer fodder has been fairly limited till recently.

The Death Star Gunner's not HIGH on my list of resculpts but I'll take him, sure.  Given that the Gunners did wear a variety of uniforms, Hasbro could technically give us the leather jerkin DSG as opposed to the POTF2 figure with the armor...  Or they could resculpt the Vintage figure who was just sporting the jumpsuit for the Emperor's arrival too, so that's unique to me, and adds something...

I'm more hoping the Rebel Commando's NOT a re-release because, well, yeah we have 2 but neither is very swift.  A little customizing tip though, if you wanted to give it a go the Saga body can be fitted to the POTF2 legs for a neutral, yet somewhat poseable Endor Rebel...  Still they're shy of the SA Trooper we all would buy and that is much needed IMO.

I'm with the rest of the voices that are a little shocked and dismayed at no SA Scout, no SA Luke Endor, or Leia, or Han...  Aside from the Commando those are the most in need of the resculpt treatment out of the whole ground sequence, but guess they're still on hold. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darby on October 31, 2005, 02:24 AM
RS updated already with the '411' on this wave.  Um... is it me, or are they just throwing darts?  And maybe staying up too late writing this (see bit about the Emperor at the end)?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2005, 02:28 AM
Little of A, little of B maybe...  :)  They likely know what they know and are just milking it a little at a time with these "411" things.

I'm always one to enjoy a good rumor though so whatever...

I'm a bit disappoitned about Luke...  I'm really disappointed about the Endor Trooper irregardless of a new head or not...  If Palpy was the Evolutions Palpy (yeah right, but one can dream) with maybe a new ROTJ head I'd be totally AOK with that.  That'd be the ultimate in my book.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darby on October 31, 2005, 03:18 AM
They did mention Luke comes with a poncho.  It would be simple enough for Hasbro to retool a new torso for the Jabba's Palace Luke, get rid of the skirt, and have an Endor Luke without trying too hard.

The Endor solider... do we need another one?  Not unless he's SA, which he's not, so... yeah, the only Emperor I'd be interested in would be the Evo one.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2005, 04:35 AM
SA one was the Endor Trooper I was hoping for though...  POTF2's not poseable at all and the Saga figure's disappointing too...  There's work they need to do there I think.

The Luke is disappointing because, well, he just needs resclupted to be a good SA figure.  On ENdor Luke had the Jedi tunic on though over his outfit so technically he should be sporting the skirt and all that.  I think I'd have much preferred a resculpt on Luke too...  I think I'd have replaced the DSGunner with either of the other figures completely resculpted.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 31, 2005, 12:22 PM
I'm always happy to get high ranking Imperial Officers, like Piett, Motti, Ozzel and the like.  So Moff Jerjerrod is greatly welcomed!

And it's about time we see a new Ewok - I'm really looking forward to Chief Chirpa.

Strangely enough, I think I'm looking forward to the Ewok Deity C-3PO the most - that scene was funny without being lame.  Maybe we'll finally get a C-3PO with some elbow and leg articulation, but I won't hold my breath.

The others I could take or leave.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on October 31, 2005, 01:38 PM
This wave has a lot of good to offer, and I'm really looking forward to it overall.  That said, there are a handful of figures from Endor that I've really been holding out for (SA Scout, SA Endor Han, Luke, Leia), but hopefully we'll see them in some way soon as well.  For what we're rumored to be getting:

Moff Jerjerrod - Definitely picking this up.  Always nice to get another Imperial officer, I still need to find/pick up Ozzel since I never found him around here.  Always thought it would be nice to get a Jerjerrod figure.

Chief Chirpa - One of the figures I'm looking forward to the most.  I don't mind the ewoks personally, and Chirpa was one of my favorites as a kid (vinty figure wise).  Another one of the "vintage figures never made" knocked off the list too.  Definite buy.

"Ewok Diety" C-3PO - Could be great, and one that has often been requested.  If they can pull off articulated knees, it would make a lot of people happy.  If he comes with his throne or something, that would be cool too.  I don't mind seeing a new 3PO, they could still make a "perfect" OT styled one.  The ROTS one is the best we've seen so far.  I'll pick this up too.

Death Star Gunner - Another one I missed during POTF2 days, and I'm sure it could be quite improved now too, so I'm looking forward to it.

Luke Skywalker - I was really hoping we'd see an all-new, SA, complete with all the bells and whistles Endor Luke, but its sounding like this is a retool/rehash.  I guess if it has to be that way, maybe modifying the Jabba's Palace Luke somehow with a soft goods cloak and a helmet would be ok.  Still would have liked to see an all new version though.

Endor Rebel Soldier - Another one that could have stood an all-new, SA version.  Likely to be the Saga version I would guess, maybe (hopefully) with a new head?  A maybe for me, depends on how it turns out.

Darth Vader - Not really sure what it would be, if it is rehash, I'll pass.

Emperor - Ditto above, but likely a rehash.  If so, pass.  If they could somehow utilize the Evolutions Palpy figure, and give him a new ROTJ style head (as Jesse mentioned earlier) that would be great.  If it is the Saga one...no thanks.

Overall a pretty good wave, and I am excited for the new figures we're getting...but the omissions just kind of bring the excitement down a bit.  Hopefully we'll see them sometime soon though, in the SA versions we're all hoping for.  I'm still holding out hope for a continuation of Evolutions/VOTC style line, where we could maybe see Endor Han, Luke, Leia, Scout Troopers, and much more.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ROTJLuke on October 31, 2005, 02:31 PM
SA one was the Endor Trooper I was hoping for though...  POTF2's not poseable at all and the Saga figure's disappointing too...  There's work they need to do there I think.

The Luke is disappointing because, well, he just needs resclupted to be a good SA figure.  On ENdor Luke had the Jedi tunic on though over his outfit so technically he should be sporting the skirt and all that.  I think I'd have much preferred a resculpt on Luke too...  I think I'd have replaced the DSGunner with either of the other figures completely resculpted.


But technically, its Endor CONFRONTATION, matching the Vader. At that point in the film, hes removed the jedi tunic, and has the Final Duel suit on. I believe Hasbro will retool the chest and (hopefully) right hand (so he can hold a saber) so its the correct suit. I was holding out for a SA one, but hopefully well get an awesome Jedi Luke in the VOTC thats hardcore rumored. But, as for this figure, this is what Im thinking:

Jabba's Palace Luke Skywalker's: Head, arms, legs.

Retooled Parts:  Torso, right hand (gloved and in the gripping position)

Accessories: Obi Wan Pilot's Saber (Green blade), Saber hilt, binders, soft goods poncho


The poncho is a nice pack in. Itll be cool to open it up and put the poncho on him. :) Im a hardcore jedi Luke collector, and Im not too dissapointed in this figure if they retool this torso and hand, as well as pack the poncho in the box as opposed to on the figure, this is the Endor Confrontation, after all. Im still holding out for a SA Death Star Duel Luke figure, but Ill take this one for now. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 31, 2005, 03:20 PM
And maybe staying up too late writing this (see bit about the Emperor at the end)?

(http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/b020.gif)

Also, WTF is up with the Endor soldier picture?

(http://www.collectinghq.com/im/0006287.jpg)

Clearly the image has been altered and replaced with a new face. Anyone recognize that guy? Is it a Rebelscum staffer? (http://cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/c010.gif)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ROTJLuke on October 31, 2005, 08:52 PM
I just hope the Luke is good enough to be on par with the rest of the figures, has his DSII uniform on, has a new retooled right hand that can hold the saber (ball jointed arms would be ideal) and its just enough of a tease till we get a SA DS Duel Luke.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 1, 2005, 09:39 AM
I'm on the same page as you all with the Luke. This figure has spiked some major curiosity as to how it's going to be handled, so I eagarly await an image.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ROTJLuke on November 1, 2005, 04:45 PM
I'm on the same page as you all with the Luke. This figure has spiked some major curiosity as to how it's going to be handled, so I eagarly await an image.


like Ive stated everywhere, Ill be tied over for a while if its a retooled torso (new dsII sculpt) and new arms with ball joints, so he can hold the saber with two hands in attack position and have his binders on. If hasbro stays true to this figures title, itll be the DSII uniform. If they cop out, itll be a rehash Jabba's Luke with painted black hand.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 17, 2006, 03:23 PM
Man, this drifted all the way back to page 3!   :(

Anyway, with the recent Toy Fair reveal, I thought I'd bump up the thread so I could remember what else was supposed to be in this wave:

*new* - Chief Chirpa
*new* - Moff Jerjerrod
*new* - Death Star Gunner
*new* - C-3PO (w/Ewok Throne)
(repack) - Endor Rebel Commando
(repack) - Luke Skywalker (Jedi)
(repack) - Darth Vader
(repack) - The Emperor

So, we saw the 4 new figures at Toy Fair, along with the planned re-issue of Saga 03-30 Emperor Palpatine.

I'd guess that the Luke and Vader will be DS2 Duel versions.  The Saga Throne Room Duel versions seem to make the most sense, despite the lameness of said figures.  :-\

I was kinda wondering if the Endor Rebel will get a bit of Kit-bashing?  An easy swap I've seen all the customizers do is to take the PotF2 Endor Trooper Legs and put them on the Saga Endor Rebel Waist/torso. 

That'd be a nice easy kit-bash option kinda like they used for the Snowtrooper - a combo of old and recent to get a new figure.  Throw in a new head sculpt and that'd be pretty cool (or at least better than a pure re-hash).  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Scott on February 17, 2006, 03:29 PM
I thought Luke was going to be an Endor version...which is why I was a little surprised he wasn't at TF


Luke Skywalker

While this figure comes with a soft good poncho, it is uncertain whether he’ll be wearing his full Jedi gear with tunic and belt or his Death Star duel gear, but considering that this figure is being retooled from an existing mould, let us hope with all our hearts that it is the former.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 17, 2006, 03:37 PM
I guess we are forced to "wait and see".    :-\

Shouldn't be too much longer of a wait at the rate things are going this year... 3 waves in 2 months, with 2 more due in the next 2 months.  Endor wave will be here before you know it!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2006, 03:55 PM
This is the wave that I'm really looking forward to personally, but that's usually the case with the OT-themed waves.  The new figures we're getting look great to me, and I'm hoping for the best with the as yet unseen rehashes for this wave.  The Emperor I guess we saw at Toy Fair, and I'm disappointed that is what they are giving us.  That Saga Emperor never did look right to me, and if they're going to retool/rehash things, they could have at least used the Evolutions Emperor and slapped a new head on him or something.  I'm curious to see what the Luke will be, but I really hope it isn't that awful action featured, grimacing Throne Room Duel Luke.  I'd rather see a retool using the Jabba's Palace Luke if they have to re-use something.  I wish we were getting all-new, SA versions of Endor Luke (and the Endor Soldier for that matter), but hopefully we'll see those eventually.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on February 17, 2006, 05:41 PM
If Hasbro packs a soft goods Endor Poncho and Helmet with that lame Throne Room Luke, I'll be mega pissed since I'll have to buy it just to give the accessories to the Jabba's Palace Luke.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 18, 2006, 09:46 AM
http://afigures.com/g/?mode=view&album=2006_Toy_Fair%2FHasbro%2FStar_Wars%2FSaga_06&pic=101_6333.jpg&dispsize=800&start=15

Is this really the Luke from Endor that ReHashbro is going to put out? Seems to me to quote The Who, "Meet the new Luke, same as the Old Luke."

If this ends up being the figure than I will say that I am disappointed. I guess the wait and see approach is the best.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 18, 2006, 10:40 AM
The Luke in that Toy Fair photo is supposed to be from the "Death of Boba Fett" Battle Pack.  It is not the one planned for the Endor wave...

That Battle Pack will also have the other figures they showed next to Luke - Han, Lando, Fett, and Weequay.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: John C on February 18, 2006, 11:12 AM
They can use most of the Jabba's Palace Jedi Luke IMO as long as they give him hands that will actually hold the saber and redo the bottom of the tunic so it doesn't keep his legs from moving.  Since it's a DS 2 Luke, I'm guessing they will redo the torso, so the tunic won't be there.  Just give him new hands, Hasbro.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 18, 2006, 01:35 PM
Jeff, great idea on the rebel trooper!

I can't wait for the Endor wave, can't have enough Imperial troops. As for the Luke, that's going to be a real head scratcher and I think, being a retool, will ultimatly dissapoint fans in the end. I think Endor Luke is high on everyones list and anything short of a well articulated figure, (which Luke deserves to be) is going to cause a lot of fuss.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on February 18, 2006, 04:47 PM
http://afigures.com/g/?mode=view&album=2006_Toy_Fair%2FHasbro%2FStar_Wars%2FSaga_06&pic=101_6333.jpg&dispsize=800&start=15

Is this really the Luke from Endor that ReHashbro is going to put out? Seems to me to quote The Who, "Meet the new Luke, same as the Old Luke."

If this ends up being the figure than I will say that I am disappointed. I guess the wait and see approach is the best.

Michael Jackson stole his glove :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on March 23, 2006, 04:43 PM
According to the latest RS report (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Whats_Next_For_Hasbro_97738.asp), it sounds like the Endor wave may have been trimmed down to the five figures we saw at Toy Fair:

Chief Chirpa
C-3PO w/throne
Death Star Gunner
Moff Jerjerrod
The Emperor

If this is indeed the case, it looks like we won't be seeing that Endor Confrontation Luke/Vader, whatever they were going to be.  I'm still holding out hope we'll see an all-new, VOTC styled Endor Luke down the road...and maybe that's why it was dropped from this wave.  Of course, that hasn't stopped Hasbro before from putting out a lower quality version alongside a superior version (Commtech Han vs VOTC Han).  Anyways, that's the word now, a 5 figure Endor wave.  But, in that same new report, they mention an "all new" Vader showing up in both the Tatooine and Endor waves, so maybe it isn't a 5 figure wave after all.  The mystery continues... ;).
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on March 23, 2006, 04:51 PM
But, in that same new report, they mention an "all new" Vader showing up in both the Tatooine and Endor waves, so maybe it isn't a 5 figure wave after all.  The mystery continues... ;).

Yeah, I'm guessing that means the previously announced #38 "Bespin" Darth Vader that is shipping with the Tatooine wave (like that makes any sense) will continue to ship with this wave (kinda like the Hoth Vader kept shipping).

That would mean that the only two figures we got shorted on from those rumor lists were a "repack" Jedi Luke and a "rehash" Endor Trooper.  If that is the case, I am sure glad that Hasbro decided to cut two of the repack figures and leave all 4 of the NEW figures in the wave.   ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: SilverZ on March 23, 2006, 05:24 PM
No big loss to me and hopefully that does mean better things are in store down the road. They might have also yanked the Endor Luke because of ROTJ Luke's presence on the Fan's Poor Choice Poll.

And I'd expect the "new" Darth Vader to be something like the Saga Bespin DV or ROTS basic DV
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on March 23, 2006, 10:18 PM
I am truly disappointed.  I was hoping for the Rebel (if it was a totally new Super Articulated Re-sculpt) and the Luke with Poncho...but if it means 2 less re-releases, then I will be ok with it.

Perhaps it means we'll get a better case assortment of the new ones. 3x Death Star Gunner, 3x Chief Chirpa, 2x Moff JerJerrod, 2x C3PO and 2x The Emperor.....
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on March 23, 2006, 10:34 PM


That would mean that the only two figures we got shorted on from those rumor lists were a "repack" Jedi Luke ...

Yeah, I can't imagine what they'd possibly do with a Luke figure.  Other than maybe repackage it as a fan's figure choice ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 23, 2006, 11:58 PM
I'm glad the kit bashes were cancelled, they sounded dissapointing. Maybe they listened to all my complaining about the snowtrooper. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 24, 2006, 04:17 AM
Paul, I was hoping for a new Endor Rebel too.  Sorely needed (as are all SA Rebel figures really), and I had hope...  I didn't have a LOT of hope though and I figured it was inevitably going to be a Saga or POTF2 trooper repainted.  I don't even think we'd have gotten a kitbash out of them on that one.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 24, 2006, 10:44 AM
Paul, I was hoping for a new Endor Rebel too.  Sorely needed (as are all SA Rebel figures really), and I had hope...  I didn't have a LOT of hope though and I figured it was inevitably going to be a Saga or POTF2 trooper repainted.  I don't even think we'd have gotten a kitbash out of them on that one.

I'm with you on this, in fact, there is no better candidate for an Evolutions set in the future than the Rebel trooper, spanning the Tantive IV, Hoth, and Endor.  That one would be a slam dunk.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 24, 2006, 11:41 AM
I'll wager those Han, Luke figs are bumped to newer waves Hasbro's planning to release as info at the CC for the next half of this year! ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 24, 2006, 08:59 PM
Paul, I was hoping for a new Endor Rebel too.  Sorely needed (as are all SA Rebel figures really), and I had hope...  I didn't have a LOT of hope though and I figured it was inevitably going to be a Saga or POTF2 trooper repainted.  I don't even think we'd have gotten a kitbash out of them on that one.

I'm with you on this, in fact, there is no better candidate for an Evolutions set in the future than the Rebel trooper, spanning the Tantive IV, Hoth, and Endor.  That one would be a slam dunk.

Oh, my freaking God! That would rock.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on March 26, 2006, 02:04 PM
So when will EE put pre-orders for this wave up?I want to see close-up pics of 3PO,Chirpa,Jerjerrod & DS Gunner!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: McCusto on March 27, 2006, 07:11 PM
Here is MY version of the EE picture:

(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5939/theendorwave2hh.jpg)


 :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on March 27, 2006, 07:29 PM
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Clone Commander on April 1, 2006, 03:00 PM
I cant wait for Jerjerrod!  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Greg on April 1, 2006, 04:50 PM
Paul, I was hoping for a new Endor Rebel too.  Sorely needed (as are all SA Rebel figures really), and I had hope...  I didn't have a LOT of hope though and I figured it was inevitably going to be a Saga or POTF2 trooper repainted.  I don't even think we'd have gotten a kitbash out of them on that one.

I'm with you on this, in fact, there is no better candidate for an Evolutions set in the future than the Rebel trooper, spanning the Tantive IV, Hoth, and Endor.  That one would be a slam dunk.


I think a Rebel Soldier Evolutions set would be cool. Pack in a few different guns, some backpacks, survival gear, and some other tools, with working holsters and removable helmets. Possibly two sets, each with different head variations.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on April 3, 2006, 09:38 PM
My God are they are they really going to send that Palpatine repack out?  That thing is just horrific.  Geez repack the ROTS Emperor before that thing again.  LOL! 

Anyway I am really looking forward to Chirpa and Jerjerrod and 3PO.  I may actually pass on the DS Gunner.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Hemish on April 3, 2006, 10:38 PM
Has there been any official images of this lot put out yet?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on April 3, 2006, 10:48 PM
Just the pics from ToyFair so far.

No official announcement has been made at www.hasbro.com/starwars and I don't think any e-tailers are pre-ordering this wave yet...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: iFett on April 5, 2006, 11:19 AM
Endor pics from Hasbro (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/default.cfm?page=news&newsID=65229511-D56F-E112-458E05BD4E77A169)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on April 5, 2006, 11:37 AM
Cool. 

Note: Available in Augst.  Does that mean May?

3PO's knees bend!  And Palpatine sucks!

Hoping they repack the sandtrooper with that wave, even if it doesn't make any sense to do so (well, other than practical demand).
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on April 5, 2006, 11:55 AM
This looks like a pretty nice wave to me.

Chirpa - Ewok lovers should really like this one I would think - I'll probably get 2-3 of them to open.  I'm not a huge Ewok fan but have nothing against the little furballs.

3PO - It looks pretty good to me, the knees look a bit big in the latest pic perhaps, but that's ok, I'll still probably get 3 or so of this version of Goldenrod.

Palpatine - I just don't get why they don't give him a new hood/robe.  I think the rest of the figure is ok?  Probably a pass for me.

Jerrod - Maybe it doesn't look perfectly like the actor, but that's ok to me as this is a good generic Imperial officer.  Probably going to try and stock up on several of him.

Death Star Gunner - He looks fantastic I think, love the articulated knees.  Definitely the best of the bunch... I want around 20 of them...

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on April 5, 2006, 01:04 PM
Note: Available in Augst.  Does that mean May?

Yeah, I don't put a lot of stock in those dates anymore...  ::)


Anyway, it's good to finally get the official announcement on them.  Really glad to see that 3PO comes with the throne - very nice touch and it will add a lot of value to that $6-7 price-point.  Love the DS Gunner and Moff Jerjerrod too.   :)


Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dan on April 5, 2006, 01:59 PM
A good looking wave, to be sure. A couple more imperials to army build, a decent 3PO, and another ewok for the "AT-ST and smoldering pelts" diorama. ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on April 5, 2006, 02:14 PM
A good looking wave, to be sure. A couple more imperials to army build, a decent 3PO, and another ewok for the "AT-ST and smoldering pelts" diorama. ;D

 :-*
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 5, 2006, 02:27 PM
Everything is cool except for the obvious.  That Emperor tool is pretty bad...well at least the hood.

I'm sure the sexy packaging will presuade me to buy it....that coupled with my quest to put together a complete carded set.

OCD.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: evenflow on April 5, 2006, 02:34 PM
Well like all have said, love them all except the Emperor. Will be passing on him. Other than that bring them on, loving the 3PO, I hope he is actually that shiny when released.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on April 5, 2006, 03:04 PM
Again, like everyone else has said, this wave looks pretty good.  I'm definitely looking forward to it, and will pick them all up aside from the Emperor.  I really wish they would have utilized the Evolutions Emperor and added a new head or something to be appropriate for ROTJ.  Although its mainly the hood problem, that Saga era Emperor just doesn't look right.  Aside from that, the wave looks nice.  I like seeing another Ewok made, and I hope we see the rest from the vintage line eventually too (and maybe a Wicket resculpt and some generic army packs while they're at it).  The C-3PO looks to be the one we've been waiting on for awhile now.  Nice wave.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on April 5, 2006, 03:11 PM
I'll be needing a 3PO or two. :) ROTS C3PO is great and once I have one I'll probably never 'retire' him (that is to say, he'll stay out on display with other figures) but it'll be awesome to have knees that bend too.

I'm a bit disappointed that Luke was nixed- I'm going to hope (no basis for this) that it precipitates a future VTSC Jedi gear/Final Duel outfit Luke :) Riiiiiight.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 5, 2006, 03:18 PM
I forgot about Luke, we really need a nice "Vader Confrontation Luke."

The tree chopping Luke from a couple years ago just doesn't cut it.

No pun intended.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on April 5, 2006, 03:39 PM
LOL, tree chopping Luke. Indeed!

I want to see a SA Luke with a good headsculpt- not the VTSC/VOTC one, maybe something more like Dark Jedi Luke or a better-painted Jabba's Palace Luke head- that has removeable soft goods tunic and robe, a removeable, slightly elastic belt- one that could fit under or over the tunic, y'see- and a lightsaber hole with a handle and an activated one, preferably a lightsaber reusing the sculpt of the episode III Obi Wan sabers. And heck, he should have two right hands, too, like 500th Vader; one black gloved, one flesh.

Heck, throw in a poncho and a helmet and you've got a Luke who can do anything he did in Return of the Jedi except pilot an X-Wing. :)

Ahh, I can dream, can't I?
Title: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: Lestat on April 5, 2006, 04:37 PM
Does anyone have any idea if this figure is going to have better articulation than the old Saga Luke? From the pictures I've seen it looks like a straight up repack. If they re-did the body slightly and maybe kept the headsculpt (making in ball jointed) he would be perfect.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on April 5, 2006, 05:04 PM
Again, like everyone else has said, this wave looks pretty good.  I'm definitely looking forward to it, and will pick them all up aside from the Emperor.  I really wish they would have utilized the Evolutions Emperor and added a new head or something to be appropriate for ROTJ.  Although its mainly the hood problem, that Saga era Emperor just doesn't look right. 

Agreed.  I just don't understand why a straight re-release of a not-yet-three year old figure is somehow a sensible thing to do?  Didn't they hear complaints about this figure the last time around?  Oh sure, it has a fancy new cardback and that's great for the carded guys, but please tell me this isn't going to be two per case.  That would bite. 

Here's the case ratio you won't see:

Chief Chirpa x2
Moff Jerjerrod x3
Death Star Gunner x3
C-3PO x3
Emperor Palpatine x1

That assumes there's nothing else in that case from another wave.  Locally I'm surprised by how officers are sitting at the moment, so I might be over assessing the amount for Jerjerrod.  I'd love to see the following mix:

Chief Chirpa x2
Moff Jerjerrod x2
Death Star Gunner x3
C-3PO x2
Emperor Palpatine x1
SA Sandtrooper x2

I'd buy two cases of that.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: Mitsukara on April 5, 2006, 05:05 PM
I'm not 100% sure, but sadly, I think that both Endor Luke and Endor Vader have been cancelled. Guessing from what I've seen in those collection room photos, he was going to be a repack of Jabba's Palace Luke; not owning one I would've bought him, too.

However, this move may precipate the release of another Luke- you never know. And I have the feeling Vader was maybe going to be 500th Vader again, as the Tatooine Vader already looks to be...

Personally, I hope they make a new one in the VTSC line, but there's nothing to indicate such a thing yet. I'm hoping though, and I think there's a fair amount of demand for a new Death Star/Final Duel Luke. No one likes old "Hulk Smash!" Saga Final Duel Luke.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 5, 2006, 05:36 PM
I don't know, the kiddies might gravitate towards the Emperor.  One per case might be too conservative.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: McCusto on April 5, 2006, 06:35 PM
I'm not 100% sure, but sadly, I think that both Endor Luke and Endor Vader have been cancelled. Guessing from what I've seen in those collection room photos, he was going to be a repack of Jabba's Palace Luke; not owning one I would've bought him, too.

However, this move may precipate the release of another Luke- you never know. And I have the feeling Vader was maybe going to be 500th Vader again, as the Tatooine Vader already looks to be...

Personally, I hope they make a new one in the VTSC line, but there's nothing to indicate such a thing yet. I'm hoping though, and I think there's a fair amount of demand for a new Death Star/Final Duel Luke. No one likes old "Hulk Smash!" Saga Final Duel Luke.

I believe the one showed at the toy fair was from the Demise of Boba Fett battlepack.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: CHEWIE on April 5, 2006, 08:18 PM
I don't know either, but this is a good question and it will be interesting to see what they do.  I can't say that I don't like the Jabba's Palace Luke, but it's definitely not an ultimate version.  I'm surprised that we haven't gotten one in the VOTC type packaging yet.

I would think though that a 3rd series of VOTC/VSTC will come out maybe next year, and maybe they are saving a Jedi Luke for that?

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darby on April 5, 2006, 08:20 PM
I don't know.  The Emperor tended to sit in all his incarnations from ROTS.  I don't think the kids go for him.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: Greg on April 5, 2006, 08:26 PM
I'm not 100% sure, but sadly, I think that both Endor Luke and Endor Vader have been cancelled. Guessing from what I've seen in those collection room photos, he was going to be a repack of Jabba's Palace Luke; not owning one I would've bought him, too.

However, this move may precipate the release of another Luke- you never know. And I have the feeling Vader was maybe going to be 500th Vader again, as the Tatooine Vader already looks to be...

Personally, I hope they make a new one in the VTSC line, but there's nothing to indicate such a thing yet. I'm hoping though, and I think there's a fair amount of demand for a new Death Star/Final Duel Luke. No one likes old "Hulk Smash!" Saga Final Duel Luke.

Can you post a link to the picture? I can't seem to find it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: Mitsukara on April 5, 2006, 09:26 PM
http://afigures.com/g/?mode=album&album=2006_Toy_Fair%2FHasbro%2FStar_Wars%2FSaga_06&start=15

Bottom-right. Or you could go directly to it here:
http://64.34.172.56/g/albums/2006_Toy_Fair/Hasbro/Star_Wars/Saga_06/101_6333.jpg

The funny thing is I'd have bought him if he was exactly like that :) Of course, I dont have a Jabba's Palace Luke yet...

Even if they rerelease this figure at some point, I really think they need to reuse the sculpt from Obi Wan's ROTS saber. All Jabba's Palace Luke's saber had was a repaint with a different color blade of the lightsaber that came with some Obi Wan- I think it was the set with the Obi Wan/Vader Death Star duel- and while copying Obi Wan's saber isn't really a bad idea (Luke's ROTJ Saber is nearly identical to Obi Wan's ANH/ROTS saber in construction- I think they might've modified the prop that had been Obi Wan's saber to make it actually, but I could be wrong), they've made a far, far better sculpt and should be using it. It's not like it'd be cheaper to rerelease the older one or anything.

And while they're at it, use entirelyli] the same mold, that way you get the part of the blade at the base that sort of- I don't know the word, but where it's sort of bigger and "fades" into the rest of the blade.

If they were really cool they could punch a hole in Luke's belt- although he doesn't actually have a belt- and give him the saber hilt, too. And maybe do something about the right hand... but now we're getting into changing the sculpt.

Then again, they're doing it for Cantina Han :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on April 5, 2006, 09:36 PM
I understand the kids might like him, but the carded collectors will only be buying one per as they'll already have a loose version from Saga or some lame pack in that will suffice.  So whereas two might seem sensible, the demand will be lower than usual.  There's no obvious retooling going on, so it's something many bought fairly recently.  Only the cardback makes it viable.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: Scott on April 5, 2006, 10:07 PM
That Luke is from the Carkoon gift pack and was not the Endor Luke, Endor Luke was supposed to be slightly retooled and include some sort of Poncho
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on April 5, 2006, 10:14 PM
Awesome wave except for Palpy. I want several DS troopers, and I'll get one of everyone else. I'm hoping they ship more HTF figures with this wave, like Cody and Scorch.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: Mitsukara on April 5, 2006, 10:21 PM
Oh... I didn't realize that. I never see gift packs or battle packs in my store so I'm not up on these things :(

Sounds like we were in for a somewhat cooler Luke but Hasbro decided against it, then :(

What else is in the Carkoon pack? I might seek one...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on April 5, 2006, 11:09 PM
I'm sold on Chirpa and Jerjerrod.

I'll probably get C-3PO. As I recall, the last golden 3PO I have is the original POTF2 version, and I painted him silver ages and ages ago. :P And this has the knees and chair to boot.

The DS gunner is nice but I don't need him.

And I don't need another Emperor, especially not this version.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: Bespin_refugee on April 6, 2006, 12:36 AM
What else is in the Carkoon pack? I might seek one...
Boba Fett, Han (http://afigures.com/g/?mode=view&album=2006_Toy_Fair%2FHasbro%2FStar_Wars%2FSaga_06&pic=101_6332.jpg&dispsize=800&start=15), Lando (http://afigures.com/g/?mode=view&album=2006_Toy_Fair%2FHasbro%2FStar_Wars%2FSaga_06&pic=101_6336.jpg&dispsize=800&start=30), Luke, and Weequay (http://afigures.com/g/?mode=view&album=2006_Toy_Fair%2FHasbro%2FStar_Wars%2FSaga_06&pic=101_6335.jpg&dispsize=800&start=30)
Group Shot (http://afigures.com/g/?mode=view&album=2006_Toy_Fair%2FHasbro%2FStar_Wars%2FSaga_06&pic=101_6336.jpg&dispsize=800&start=30)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Luke
Post by: John C on April 6, 2006, 09:21 AM
The only real problems with the Jabba Luke was that the lower part of the tunic restricted movement and his hands didn't hold weapons properly.  They redo those parts and that figure is perfect.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: John C on April 6, 2006, 09:23 AM
Good to see a 3PO with more articulation.  Chirpa, the Gunner and Jerjerrod are all figures I will buy.  The Emperor is a POS. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 6, 2006, 09:24 AM
Just a side observation, but with the exception of the Sarlac wave, all the waves through this one have had at least one armybuilder. I think Hasbro's making an attempt to please everyone.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on April 6, 2006, 01:29 PM
Hmmm.  Australian e-tailer CaseFresh.com (http://www.casefresh.com/starwars/hasbro/sagacollection.htm) is saying that there is another figure in the Endor wave - R2-D2?   ???

They have him listed as Saga-043 and part of the Endor wave.   

Is it a mix-up?
Is it another vOTC R2-D2 repack with the cutting wheel added back?
It is like the Utapau Trooper - a figure from another wave who is shipping early?

I guess we have to wait for carded pictures to get confirmation...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 6, 2006, 01:49 PM
My guess would be the Hoth version...but I've been wrong before (I thought GL was going to ship in a mailer box)...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on April 6, 2006, 10:43 PM
Rebelscum is saying there may be an Endor R2-D2 as well.  I kind of hope it's him tied up by the Ewoks.  That would be different.  Or where he's shot by the bunker with all his "tools" hanging out.  Or more than likely another repaint. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on April 6, 2006, 10:50 PM
I thought the line seemed a little skimpy with 5 figures...

I personally hope one R2 or another shows up here. If it's a reprint/repaint of the VOTC one but includes the accessories or something to make him interesting like a rope or something, I'll buy him, or if he's some totally new cool thing.

If he's POTF2 R2 or Naboo Escape R2 or something he's soooooo not getting bought :)

But 3PO is a must. The rest of the figures are kind of interesting- Palpatine is really pretty lame though, I don't own the original but I don't want one as long as his hood's like that. It's like two different people sculpted the hood and the face, and they couldn't coordinate! But I'll have to wait and see how money is as far as the rest of the line is concerned.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 7, 2006, 09:37 AM
If this R2 is R2 tied to two logs so you could have two Ewoks carrying him on their shoulders - it would be a definite winner.

In fact, it need not even be a new figure, just supply the "stretcher" accessory and the "rope" to "tie" him to it.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on April 7, 2006, 10:28 AM
I agree with what others have said, even if its a repackaged R2 and they throw some "Endor" accessories in there with him, that would be pretty cool with me.  The "Endor bunker blasted" R2 is a neat idea too, but I have the feeling we won't be seeing a new figure here.  Aside from that bunker version, and a resculpted "saber launching" version, there probably isn't too much else they can do with R2 (or repainted R4-G9) that can't be accomplished with accessories.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on April 7, 2006, 05:54 PM
R2 is a repack not new... from the swshop.com

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104942;category_id=;pcid1=;pcid2=


Wave 5 of Hasbro's 2006 Basic Figure assortment is now available from StarWarsShop in a 12-figure case pack. Each figure includes a base and a randomly-selected bonus hologram figure. This assortment contains doubles of four of the new figures, while the remainder is made up of four singles: Emperor Palpatine (new!), R2-D2, Commander Cody, and Bespin Battle Vader. New figures include:

CHIEF CHIRPA -- Chief Chirpa is the wise, gray-furred leader of the Ewok tribe that befriended a Rebel strike team sent to the forest moon of Endor to destroy the Imperial shield generator.
MOFF JERJERROD -- A capable but arrogant officer, Moff Jerjerrod commanded the second Death Star during its construction.
DEATH STAR GUNNER -- The immense weaponry of the Imperial fleet was operated by these highly skilled gunners. They were easily recognizable in their large, distinctive helmets, which were designed to protect them from the dangerous flashback of turbolaser batteries.
C-3PO -- No one was more surprised than C-3PO by the sudden manifestation of godlike powers brought on by the golden droid's frustration at being unable to convince the Ewoks to free his friends.
EMPEROR PALPATINE -- A powerful and diabolical Dark Lord of the Sith, Emperor Palpatine very nearly succeeded in turning young Skywalker to the dark side of the Force.
Be sure and get your order in early on this red-hot series of figures today.

International Shipping Surcharge: $10.00

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on April 7, 2006, 07:18 PM
This assortment contains doubles of four of the new figures, while the remainder is made up of four singles: Emperor Palpatine (new!), R2-D2, Commander Cody, and Bespin Battle Vader.

What the hell?

Is that an assortment that actually makes sense?   :o

TWO of each of the new figures (Moff, DSG, 'wok, 3PO)
ONE HTF figure (Cody)
ONE R2 (to go with 3PO)
ONE repack Emperor
ONE repack Vader (to go with the Emperor and the rest of the imps in the wave)

Wow...  that assortment actually makes sense to me.  About the only bad thing with that case is that they decided to repack that version of the Emperor.  :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on April 7, 2006, 07:22 PM
That Vader is partially new.. check out view 2 from that link, it's the Bespin Vader with projectiles to hurl a Luke
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on April 7, 2006, 07:29 PM
Yeah, but he's technically a "repack" in this wave in my book since the Bespin Vader is first available in the Tatooine wave...  :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Clone Commander on April 8, 2006, 01:43 AM
I cant wait for jerjerrod, I think its odd though that they didnt make a piett.  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 8, 2006, 09:49 AM
Very easy wave to pass on. Might get C3P0 for the articulation.  Very disappointing wave, but it makes my decision to scale back and really stop hunting so much easier . . . .
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on April 8, 2006, 10:56 AM
Is it me or is that R2 a Hoth wave re-pack,which means R2 could be a R4-G9 re-paint! ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on April 8, 2006, 11:04 AM
Is it me or is that R2 a Hoth wave re-pack,which means R2 could be a R4-G9 re-paint! ;D

Huh? Hoth Artoo is not a G9 repaint.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: SilverZ on April 8, 2006, 01:31 PM
That really is the most reasonable case breakdown I've seen in a long time. According to EE's breakdown, R2 is just the #10 version repacked, which is fine by me.

They're actually up now:
Pre-Order at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770F)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on April 8, 2006, 01:32 PM
The Endor Wave is now up for Pre-Order at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770F).

They list R2-D2 as Saga #10, so that would be just the Hoth Version.  The list the Emperor as #43 (which was the number that CaseFresh said R2 was), so at this point it looks like the CasePack info was just a mistake on their part...   :(

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-06/endorwave.jpg)


edit: Dang, Jared beat me by a minute!   :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on April 8, 2006, 02:05 PM
I gotta have an army of the Death Star Gunner.  Man that's one sharp figure.

  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on April 8, 2006, 02:08 PM
I can't wait for Chirpa and Threepio!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 8, 2006, 02:27 PM
I'm going to need at least 3 of those 3PO's for dioramas in which he's sitting.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on April 8, 2006, 03:43 PM
Wow, not a bad case pack at all.  Good work.  Just waiting for Rick to get that up.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 9, 2006, 07:16 PM
I cant wait for jerjerrod, I think its odd though that they didnt make a piett.  :-\

As opposed to the one they already made. 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on April 9, 2006, 07:23 PM
While I love my Tarkin and Thrawn and am happily soon to have a Piett, I have to agree that all three could kind of use a facelift some day with the improvements made in newer imperial officer figures. They look okay on their own, but they look crappy next to the new guys.

Personally, more so than what they've actually done with the imperial officers, I think they should start making them with an extra soft cloth "skirt" and hinged knee joints- they don't need balls, commtech figure-style knees will do. This way they could sit or walk or pace around. That and the now-common angle cuts and swivel boot tops would make many a great imperial officer.

So much so that I kind of wish I had a spare (I don't even have one...) Jabba's Palace Luke, so I could steal his limbs and give them to Thrawn and do my own "skirt."
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 10, 2006, 11:05 AM
Wow, not a bad case pack at all. Good work. Just waiting for Rick to get that up.

Me too.  Rick's a little behind (I'm waiting for the Tatooine wave and the second ROTS case).

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on April 10, 2006, 02:29 PM
Hopefully that choice DS Gunner will be as plentiful as the AT-AT Driver was in my area...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on April 12, 2006, 04:59 PM
I agree with that Hunter.  The DSG has me worried because I too want a nice hefty army of him.  He doesn't look to blow the old POTF2 Gunner out of the water either, so that's nice to still have a figure that "fits", but the new one is amazing.

I plan to display most of mine sans armor and use my POTF2 as the armored one in my displays... 

Jerjerrod looks comical really.  More like a generic officer than Jerjerrod...  Not unlike the Piett figure who I don't think looks like Piett very much.

On a nitpicky note, it's nice to see them getting IMperial uniform colors right finally, and doing so routinely.  Ozzel was all wrong, Tarkin and Motti weren't quite perfect (though Motti's close), but Piett, and now Veers and Jerjerrod seem spot-on to their colors, so that's a major plus to me.

I'm still disappointed at the levels of articulation in 2006 though.  It ain't 1983 here...  Can we get some knee joints? Even simple hinged knees are better than nothing at all.  It's a tad lame of Hasbro, especially with the crappy prices we're dealing with.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 12, 2006, 05:07 PM
My guess would be the Hoth version...but I've been wrong before (I thought GL was going to ship in a mailer box)...

Just for the record - I was right for once!

 :o

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: DarthAcroyear on April 12, 2006, 07:15 PM
I gotta have an army of the Death Star Gunner.  Man that's one sharp figure.

  :)

For a failed TIE Fighter Pilot, it not bad at all! ;) I hope to get a handfull of them as well. At least four and perhaps as many as ten. Outside of that, one Chief Chirpa and one Moff Jerjerrod and I can call that wave done. 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 12, 2006, 09:39 PM
Hopefully that choice DS Gunner will be as plentiful as the AT-AT Driver was in my area...

Me too. The At-At driver still hangs for a little while when stocked.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 12, 2006, 10:41 PM
Don't worry Anthony I got your back as usual ;)

It seems though, that the prequel trilogy army builders move faster than the OT ones. I'm banking that the new sandtrooper will 'fly' though..
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 8, 2006, 03:20 PM
Sweetness!

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC40jerjerrod1.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC39chirpa1.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC41DSG1.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC43emperor1.jpg)

I'm picking up that Imperial Gunner for sure...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on May 8, 2006, 03:24 PM
I'll take a few gunners and the ewok.  I'll probably get some customizing imperial fodder
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: rikdom on May 8, 2006, 03:48 PM
Man, that Palpatine really looks like a doofus in that carded pic.

But it got me thinking...
I skipped that sculpt in it's initial release, due to his giant, honkin' hood.
But could you replace it with a hood from the EP3 Palpatine?
Anybody have both figures handy that could check it out?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 8, 2006, 04:21 PM
Either way, this would've been a good time for Hasbro to release a soft goods Emperor.

We desparately need one.

Maybe someday in the VOTC line.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nirvana on May 8, 2006, 04:28 PM
They did release Palps with a SG robe in the Evo set, but his head was sculpted in an 'angry' face.

The DS Gunner looks simply stunning, especially with the removable chest AND back armor.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on May 8, 2006, 04:35 PM
I think the background for Palpatine looks great.  It's such a pity they used that version again.  Geez, it looks like he's going to cry or maybe he crapped his drawers.  Not at all menacing or imposing.  Even that blue lightning looks in need of a blue pill. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 8, 2006, 05:30 PM
You can't replace the Palpatine hood without taking off the whole robe - they are all one piece.

You could however remove the entire thing and add the robe/hood from the ROTS Palpatine... or even use the hood from the ROTS Palpatine bust up... this isn't the best pic in the world but it gives the general idea -

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/newcrisis31.jpg)

 :)

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on May 8, 2006, 05:32 PM
I dig this wave, I'll be picking up everything but Palps. Where's a pic of carded Threepio?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 8, 2006, 07:23 PM
On a nitpicky note, it's nice to see them getting IMperial uniform colors right finally, and doing so routinely.  Ozzel was all wrong, Tarkin and Motti weren't quite perfect (though Motti's close), but Piett, and now Veers and Jerjerrod seem spot-on to their colors, so that's a major plus to me.



I've seen you mention this before, but I'm still not convinced this pale grey is correct.  I really think it is a hybrid green/grey.  In fact, look at the pic on the front of the Jerjerrod card and compare it to the figure in the blister.  It's really not close at all.  But I'd like to see more reference pics anyhow.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 8, 2006, 07:32 PM
Something else I just noticed: check out the neckline of the DS Gunner.  Very cool attention to detail I never noticed!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on May 8, 2006, 07:47 PM
To get a decent looking Palp use the Evolution version and put the removable hood from the ROTS on.  It solves the whole soft goods hood problem IMO.  The only drawback is your stuck with the angry face.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 8, 2006, 07:53 PM
Mixed bag here.  That is a really bad likeness on both Jerjerrod and Palpatine.  Jerjerrod looks like he's at his Holiday Season weight.  Palpatine just looks terrible.

Chirpa is nice.  The Death Star Gunner is the bomb.

Anticipated purchases:

0 x Palpatine
1 x Jerjerrod (possible custom fodder, so maybe more)
10 x DS Gunner
3 x Chirpa (possible custom fodder as well)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 8, 2006, 08:31 PM
Pictures already. :P Very nice though.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on May 8, 2006, 08:43 PM
I think that Gunner may be even better that the At-At driver, count me in for at least 10.

It's nice Jerjerrod has articulated knees... oh wait...  ::)

I think I may buy 1 Palpy because I never did pick up that version of him loose before. He obviousbly will need to be customized though.

I wish some pics of a card 3PO had surfaced, as this is another one I'll pick up multiples of.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 10, 2006, 01:14 AM
The gunner's big on my list too.  Seems like FULL body armor too...  Been nice if Veers had gotten that level of effort.

Great figure though, and a gunner for all seasons now...  ROTJ and ANH designs.  I'm in for more than 10 of those actually. :)

I also like that it appears the POTF2 Gunner won't look out of place with this guy...  It's like the AT-AT Driver in that it's good, but the original wasn't as bad as one may think.  The TIE Pilot looks out of place with his POTF2 Counterparts though unfortunately.  :(
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 10, 2006, 01:45 AM
(http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/5376-005.jpg)

Good to see the folks taking the pictures have a good grasp of the character they're shooting. The vest is on backwards.  :-\

I really like this figure. I don't know what they could have possibly done to make it better. Put me down for 10 as well.

(Image provided by GH, where they don't fill backgrounds with stupid blue to make it look like they actually have the figures).
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 10, 2006, 03:34 AM
Man, that Palpatine really looks like a doofus in that carded pic.

Yeah, a piece of **** is still a piece of **** even on these great looking cards.  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on May 10, 2006, 07:56 AM
(Image provided by GH, where they don't fill backgrounds with stupid blue to make it look like they actually have the figures).

 :D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on May 10, 2006, 08:59 AM
Yeah Hasbro must be tired of seeing that Palpatine in it's warehouse.  I can not see any other reason why they would put that thing back in the stores other than to get it out of their sight.  That is a sad, sad, sad repack. 

Anyway, everything else is okay.  I don't love the Gunner as much as everyone else but it's definately a pick up for me.   I am actually a tad bit disappointed with how Jerjerrod looks.  It's fine and all but I don't know about that face?  Oh well.  Chirpa is pretty cool looking.  He was actually my favorite ewok figure back in the day.  They made a nice version of him there.  C-3PO is one I'll have to leg if he has bendeable knees. 

Here's hoping that they have come up with an SA Luke Endor sometime in the future. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on May 10, 2006, 09:04 AM
I am actually a tad bit disappointed with how Jerjerrod looks.  It's fine and all but I don't know about that face?

At least he doesn't look like Tarantino. :(
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 10, 2006, 09:17 AM
Yeah Hasbro must be tired of seeing that Palpatine in it's warehouse.  I can not see any other reason why they would put that thing back in the stores other than to get it out of their sight. 


Wasn't this figure highly sought after until this point?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on May 10, 2006, 09:55 AM

At least he doesn't look like Tarantino. :(
Quote

I was hoping that he looked like Clooney that way I would have my Dust till Dawn 2-pack :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on May 10, 2006, 11:39 AM
Yeah Hasbro must be tired of seeing that Palpatine in it's warehouse.  I can not see any other reason why they would put that thing back in the stores other than to get it out of their sight. 


Wasn't this figure highly sought after until this point?

I hope I'm not being thick here and that isn't sarcasm.  But I don't recall it ever being highly sought after.  It might have been a little hard to find, but not terribly so.  I'm pretty sure it showed in Canada and that's generally (though not always) a good indication of easy access.  Even if it was hard to find, who'd want it enough to make it highly sought after? 

That DSG has some serious right ankle issues.  He oughta see a doc. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 10, 2006, 12:04 PM
Actually, I seem to remember a LOT of people who had trouble finding a bunch of different figures at the tail end of 2003.

As hard as it is to believe, this figure was indeed one that was "hard to find" for quite a few people out there.  I remember quite a few threads at RS where this figure was showing up on people's "most wanted" lists.   :o

Does that mean they should be re-releasing the 2003 version him now?  Uh... no.    They should have just retooled ROTS head onto that Ep1 Darth Sidious figure - now that was actually a pretty cool Emperor figure.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 10, 2006, 12:06 PM
I figured any scarcity of that Palpatine sculpt was because of short-shipping it out of pure shame. That thing is horrible. It's as big of a misfire as the Hoth Rebel Soldier, I feel. Why they feel the need to reship a pile like that is beyond me.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on May 10, 2006, 12:49 PM
I figured any scarcity of that Palpatine sculpt was because of short-shipping it out of pure shame. That thing is horrible. It's as big of a misfire as the Hoth Rebel Soldier, I feel. Why they feel the need to reship a pile like that is beyond me.



I'd have thought (or wished the same).  But I'd trust Jeff's recollection rather than mine.  Unfortunately I ended up with at least a couple of them, much to my dismay. 

As for why to reship, probably because the production run was standard size in 2003 but distribution was miserable seemingly, so they're sitting on a pile of that pile.  The natural thing to do is to unload them, and shamelessly they are doing so, knowing full well there are lots of carded collectors out there (no, not the kiddies that  supposedly drive the marketplace) that will buy this to complete the collection of TSC cardbacks. 

They should be embarassed by that figure though, monkey face's running mate has no place in 2006, let alone 1995.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 10, 2006, 01:55 PM

At least he doesn't look like Tarantino. :(
Quote

I was hoping that he looked like Clooney that way I would have my Dust till Dawn 2-pack :P

'Dust' or Dusk?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on May 10, 2006, 07:17 PM
Dust, as in what they collect on the pegs ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 10, 2006, 08:00 PM
Jerjerrod reminds me of Chief Bast.
(http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/5376-003.jpg)

 :P

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on May 10, 2006, 09:03 PM
I finally figured out what I didn't like about Jerjerrod - his face. He'd look a lot better if they gave him a nervous/surprised expression instead of the angry look.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 10, 2006, 09:04 PM
He's angry 'cause he got ripped off on accesories.  :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 10, 2006, 09:18 PM
I finally figured out what I didn't like about Jerjerrod - his face. He'd look a lot better if they gave him a nervous/surprised expression instead of the angry look.

How about if Hasbro gave him the half-smiling 'we should double our efforts' look? Then everyone would think he's focusing on performing a human function in the bathroom or that he was ..a little excited :P

Seriously, I'm quite pleased with his 'bad guy' expression. Apparently, Hasbro was doing their best to copy his still photo.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 11, 2006, 02:35 AM
I'm not fond of Jerjerrod simply out of the lack of ANYTHING for $7...  :(  This is another Derlin situation I'm afraid.  If the wave ships enough.

I too had trouble finding the Palpatine by the way...  I got mine out of the DVD 3-pack actually, on clearance.  The basic figure was one I never saw out of the 2003 Saga figures.  Same with the McTrooper which I think came out the same time...  A real bitch to find, and one you'd actually want maybe two of, but Hasbro put a stop to that fun!  :-\

The Jerjerrod though, yeah I'm not impressed.  I think a neutral expression would've been better than pissed off (or otherwise "expressing" something).  Considering Veers was fine, it's kind of silly they gave Jerjerrod a face he really only had in cut scenes.

Beyond that, ****** articulation, and a complete lack of anything interesting packed in with him make him less than stellar to me...  Hell, repack the holo Deaht Star accessory, or give him a datapad accessory, or something...  Or how about something better for articulation perhaps so the toy itself is a little better.  Meh...  He's ok for $5, he's **** for $7 though.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 11, 2006, 09:25 AM
The thing to me about Jerjerrod is the casting. It's one thing that always bugged me about ROTJ. With respect to the actor, most of the other imperial officers in the previous films had substance, even if they weren't a well known actor. I keep asking my self, what is this guy doing in charge of the most important project in history?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 11, 2006, 11:50 AM
I'm not fond of Jerjerrod simply out of the lack of ANYTHING for $7...  :(  This is another Derlin situation I'm afraid. 

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 11, 2006, 12:25 PM
He might be a Derlin... but actually Veers seems to outsell Derlin and I think Jerrod will be more of a comparison to Veers.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 11, 2006, 12:28 PM
He might be a Derlin... but actually Veers seems to outsell Derlin and I think Jerrod will be more of a comparison to Veers.

 :)

But while Veers had a good amount of accesories, all Jerjerrod has is a E-11.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2006, 05:02 PM
Looks like RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC42c3po1.jpg&text=C-3PO%20with%20Ewok%20Throne) has added the carded/loose shots of C-3PO and his throne now.  Its funny, although the inside of the knees in this pic aren't "vac metal", this is really still what the VOTC C-3PO should have been.  I hope to pick up a few of these to replace others in the displays.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 11, 2006, 05:43 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC42c3po1.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on May 11, 2006, 05:49 PM
I like the Ewok Throne Accessory it looks very vintage...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 11, 2006, 06:09 PM
This Ewok Diety C-3P0 looks better every time I see it, and with that awesome chair accesory, I just might get it.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on May 11, 2006, 06:16 PM
I like the Ewok Throne Accessory it looks very vintage...

I think that is the vintage throne.  Anyone have one for comparison?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 11, 2006, 06:18 PM
I like the Ewok Throne Accessory it looks very vintage...

I think that is the vintage throne.  Anyone have one for comparison?

Wasn't the vintage throne released with the Ewok Village Playset?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 11, 2006, 06:20 PM
Exactly about Veers...  He has a chest armor piece, helmet, blaster...  He looks like 2 unique figures so I'm sure that's helping him move too.  Jerjerrod has a generic imperial look going for him, that's about it.  Ozzel didn't move well so I'm thinking if Jerjerrod is distributed similarly that he'll basically sit there like a bump too...  Hell, Derlin's the first really good Hoth sculpt in a while (not counting Saga Luke's nice sculpt), and one with fan demand behind it...  He sits.  I'm thinking Jerjerrod will suffer a similar fate.

For $7, if they'd have articulated the knees on him and Derlin I'd be content with both despite their apparent lack of anything interesting going on with them.  Jerjerrod would've been a perfect chance to include a Death Star console.  Even if it's small and not accurate to the film, something like Lushros' console would've been REALLY cool and made the figure at least slightly more appealing.  As it stands he's definitely the butt sucker of the wave (repacks aside).

BTW

THat's not the vintage throne, it's a completely different design.  The Vinty throne's hand poles are an open circle with handles on the ends, and the throne seat is different...  Not the same though.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 11, 2006, 06:52 PM
As it stands he's definitely the butt sucker of the wave (repacks aside).


Perfect poetic summary of him. It would be nice if they had a Piett, Motti, Tarkin repaint head varients. That would make better use of the static body.
Get rid of the Holo & personalized stand for knee articulation. The money would be better spent!

In the words of Cameo: "Word up!"
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 11, 2006, 07:57 PM
Here's a pic of the vintage Ewok Throne:
(http://www.rebelscum.com/vintage/tempVewokvillage.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 11, 2006, 09:28 PM
Newforce put this wave up for pre-order, but lists it sequentially as the next wave, skipping over Tatooine.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 12, 2006, 07:43 PM
I think it would be cool if each figure in the Endor wave (Except 3P0 of course) was packaged with a small piece of a modular Ewok Village, so that when you bought all the figures, you would have your own little Ewok Village.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 12, 2006, 07:49 PM
I think it would be cool if each figure in the Endor wave (Except 3P0 of course) was packaged with a small piece of a modular Ewok Village, so that when you bought all the figures, you would have your own little Ewok Village.

That's a very cool idea.  But you know if they did that the price would jump.  It would certainly fit the "deluxe" type of figure nicely.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 12, 2006, 08:58 PM
Even better if they really stole the Marvel Legends build a figure: Build a blast apart Ewok!
A generic ewok with removable limbs, who would not want that! A perfect companion to that Endor At-At...splat! :D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on May 13, 2006, 01:10 AM
I love the Gunner,3PO & Chirpa.I would love Jerrjerrod but he's angry,why?If they change that I'll love that too.I hate the Emp.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on May 13, 2006, 12:34 PM
I'll definitely get the Gunner.


I'm iffy on getting Moff and 3PO.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 15, 2006, 07:02 PM
The figures I want to get from this wave are:
1. Death Star Gunner
2. C-3P0 (Ewok Village)
3. Chief Chirpa

DS Gunner looks great... Good sculpt and not too shabby on accesories either. C-3P0 is cool mainly 'cause he's packaged with a piece of the Ewok Village and I don't have a C-3P0 in my collection yet. Chirpa looks great in all areas except for accesories. While an Ewok battle staff is cool, it would have been cooler if they packed in:
- Ewok Drum Set from Endor Victory Accesory Set:
(http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/saga-endoracc_1.jpg)
-Imperial E-11 Blaster Rifle (If you pause ROTJ you can see several Ewoks holding E-11s):
(http://www.rebelscum.com/POTJ/POTJacc-blaster-impblack.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on May 15, 2006, 09:10 PM
IT looks like Jerjerrod also has a lean when put on the stand.  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on May 15, 2006, 09:16 PM
Imperial E-11 Blaster Rifle (If you pause ROTJ you can see several Ewoks holding E-11s):

That would be cool having those furry bastards wielding blasters.
Plus there's a chance for them to accidentally shoot themselves in the face.  :P

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/ewokpackin.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 16, 2006, 12:49 PM
All of this Ewok bashing is making me uncomfortable.

I'm really excited to see this wave in stores, and I'm hoping that maybe, just maybe, some Ewok variants are leaked out sort of like the ROTS Wookies were. I'd definately make an effort to pick up as many variants  as I could.

It's great to finally see Chief Chirpa. My only complaint is that the color is pretty off, I think... and I agree that Hasbro could have packed in a couple more extras. The E-11 and a sling of rocks would have been cool accessories.

Moff Jerkeroff doesn't look anything like his movie counterpart, if you ask me. The likeness is completely off, and the expression is, too. I doubt I'll pick this one up, because while more Imperial Officers is great, I just can't really afford it at the moment. For its price tag, it could have used something more in the way of accessories, too.

I love the Death Star Gunner! I'd like to pick up a few, so that I can finally have a full squad manning my vintage Death Star station. I wonder if Hasbro would ever consider releasing a Death Star playset again? Or maybe even just a section of it with the ion guns...

C3PO with articulated knees? Woah! We've only been waiting for this for, what, over 10 years? About damned time! I love the throne, and you guys are right - it really does look like a vintage piece. I don't need any extra 3PO's, but I have to pick this up on principle.

Don't like the Palpatine... How many times has this thing been rehashed, anyway?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 16, 2006, 01:05 PM
We've seen 'death of... demise of...' figures in the past haven't we? I think Hasbro should start a whole new 'death of ewok line'. Seeing this new Ewok in this line makes me yawn. Yes it's yet another cool, highly detailed, living Ewok. How about some dead or dying ones though ;D? This way we can delight in acting out the death scenes of the little bastards :)!

Some ideas could be  'exploding from ATST laser cannon fire Ewok'. Dragging along forest Ewok would be cool(rope included-you would have to buy at least 10=more $ for Hasblo). Crashing death glider Ewok with fiery/smoking wing! Lastly, my fav.-ATST stepped/ pancaked Ewok!

If it needs to be moved then NP I just thought it was relevant considering another healthy Ewok is released in this wave. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on May 16, 2006, 04:44 PM
lying dead on ground with blaster smoke rising ewok :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 18, 2006, 02:04 AM
Ya know, I'd like a single-piece "dead" character packed in with any army builder as an accessory.  it'd beat the hell out of a stand and mini-holo figure that isn't a mini-holo from the movies...

A lump of Ewok with a little "smoke" bit coming off its body is kind of funny really...  pack that in with the Chirpa figure and that'd be realy cool though I like the Chirpa figure anyway...  The gear looks acceptable to me for him...  The knife w/scabard (looks functional to me actually), the cane/club, and the headdress...  For Chirpa I'm ok with that.

What we need for Ewoks though, more than anything, is a 4-pack of the Teebo figure with multiple styled headdresses.  All 4 woks painted uniquely, and pack-in bows/quivers, spears, clubs, and maybe a sling or something.  I have plenty 'o E-11's to hand out to them too myself though.  That's a mix/match 4-pack of Ewok Warrior Goodness I'd buy in some bulk.  Just swap headdresses and you'd have a number of combinations you could go with on them...  I love Ewok figures though, so the more the merrier to me.

Jerjerrod still sucks...  Though I can honestly say I DON'T want a Tarkin head swap.  I want an all-new Tarkin at some point, and would love if he had his little office chair.  He needs a new figure though, its own sculpt...  He's a tiny guy.

This is a good wave to look forward to though overall.  That Gunner and Ewok make it worth hunting down early IMO.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on May 18, 2006, 02:13 AM
While an Ewok battle staff is cool, it would have been cooler if they packed in:
- Ewok Drum Set from Endor Victory Accesory Set:
(http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/saga-endoracc_1.jpg)

I love that piece. :D

(http://tk421.homestead.com/files/toys/ewok_drummer.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on May 18, 2006, 04:12 PM
[
(http://tk421.homestead.com/files/toys/ewok_drummer.jpg)

Sgt. Ewok And The Imperial Helmet Club Band.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on May 19, 2006, 11:35 PM
All of this Ewok bashing is making me uncomfortable.


Suck it up.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 20, 2006, 09:33 AM
All of this Ewok bashing is making me uncomfortable.


Suck it up.

I may be half your height, but you've got at least 50 years on me.


Regarding the Endor wave... has anyone seen any pics of the DST without the chest place? I'm trying to find a pic of that, but I'm not having any luck.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Morgbug on May 20, 2006, 10:01 PM
I may be half your height, but you've got at least 50 years on me.

Half my height, twice my weight.  Little round fuzzball is what I think of you as. :-*
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 22, 2006, 12:20 AM
I'd ban you, if I knew I could do it without accidentaly banning myself.

 >:(


But the thought is what counts.

 >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 22, 2006, 02:28 AM
I think it would be cool if each figure in the Endor wave (Except 3P0 of course) was packaged with a small piece of a modular Ewok Village, so that when you bought all the figures, you would have your own little Ewok Village.

Well each piece would have to be HUGE or it would be a mini playset, almost of a miniature scale... you are on to a good idea though.  I think each figure should come with parts to a VOTC Stormtrooper.  Make Stormtrooper parts as the standard accessory instead of the holo figure.  Pack them in randomly for several waves so we can each build more Stormtroopers easily.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 22, 2006, 03:24 AM
I think each figure should come with parts to a VOTC Stormtrooper.  Make Stormtrooper parts as the standard accessory instead of the holo figure.  Pack them in randomly for several waves so we can each build more Stormtroopers easily.

 :)

I nominate this for idea of the decade.

I can't imagine how many useful stormtroopers I'd have if I could turn in all of my useless freeze frame slides, commtech chips, holo minis etc. and swap it for your idea.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on May 22, 2006, 03:30 AM
I think each figure should come with parts to a VOTC Stormtrooper.  Make Stormtrooper parts as the standard accessory instead of the holo figure.  Pack them in randomly for several waves so we can each build more Stormtroopers easily.

 :)

I nominate this for idea of the decade.

I can't imagine how many useful stormtroopers I'd have if I could turn in all of my useless freeze frame slides, commtech chips, holo minis etc. and swap it for your idea.

I second the notion.

Fantastic idea Justin. Marvel legends do it, albeit on a slightly larger scale, but it certainly is possible. I never use any commtech chips, freeze frames, or my mini-holos. In fact I've given or thrown away over 40 mini holos this year. That could be about 7 or 8 VOTC trooper, assuming they break it into 5 or 6 pieces.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 22, 2006, 03:47 AM
It's a concept that's gone over big in the Asian toy market, so why not?  Innovation and good ideas in general aren't Hasbro staples though, so I'm not going to hold my breath, but it's still a good idea.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 22, 2006, 06:24 PM
Knowing Hasbro, it'd be assorted so that you must buy the entire wave to get each piece.

The army builders in each wave would all be packaged with right legs, and all of the rehased Han Solo's would be the chest, and all of the rehashed Emperor Palpatine's would have the heads, etc, etc.

Here's a better idea... Why doesn't Hasbro have a mail order, without any lame gimmicks, so we could buy SA Stormies in baggies... No fancy packaging, nothing that could add to the already expensive cost... Just offer us the SA troopers and accessories for a cheap price.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 22, 2006, 06:43 PM
I agree that it would be difficult to not end up with several of the same parts, but imagine the cool trade threads that would result?  I think instead of this they could offer a pack-in Ewok with varying paint schemes.  Just use a small sculpt with minimal articulation to justify the cost.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mister Skeezler on May 23, 2006, 02:09 PM
I think something similar to this would be a great idea. Each themed wave should have a themed accessory. I could give a **** about named stands and mini-hologram figures (unless they look like holograms from the movie), so a useable accessory would be much better. Plus, the improved value might make the figures better sellers.

For example, each figure in the Endor wave would include a generic Ewok. Each figure would have a different Ewok in it (one or two different sculpts, multiple paint styles) with a spear.

The Tattoine wave would be the same, but using Jawas instead of Ewoks.

A Bespin wave could have Ugnaughts.

After those ideas, there are multiple others they could do:

* Cantina tables (a little bigger than Hammerhead's)
* Trade Federation clean-up droids (the short silver guys)
* Pit Droids
* Utupauans (the little fuel depot guys)
* Battle Droids
* Anakin's  childhood friends (groan)
* ET Senators
* Watto's shop junk
* Jedi Council chair for each jedi master (split into 2 pieces to fit the package better)
* Clone children
* Computer terminals from Hoth

etc.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: John C on May 23, 2006, 05:14 PM
I like the build a figure idea.  Droids would be a great choice for this.  Each wave could have a different one.  One wave could be a protocol, one could be an astromech etc.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 23, 2006, 06:40 PM
I like the build a figure idea, too ;). Killed or dying Ewoks would be a good choice for this. Each wave you could get burned(incinerated) Ewok, next exploding Ewok, then Squashed-by-ATST-Ewok..ect. Now those would be Gggreeaattt! I'd buy definately!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 24, 2006, 04:21 AM
Here's a better idea... Why doesn't Hasbro have a mail order, without any lame gimmicks, so we could buy SA Stormies in baggies... No fancy packaging, nothing that could add to the already expensive cost... Just offer us the SA troopers and accessories for a cheap price.

The funny thing about your quote Brad is that it seems that even the collectors are so downtrodden by Hasbro stupidity that we've got to come up with ideas that really ultimately have Hasbro thinking behind them...

Asking for baggied VOTC Stormtroopers for on the cheap via mail-order is incredibly logical and I'd buy a ton.  Even if they were full basic figure price ($7 or so) I'd buy tons I'm sure...  Negating the baggie positives.

But even I've got it in my head that this is just asking the impossible...  It's logical, it's gotta be profitable, but it's just not something they would ever do because, well, they are Hasbro...  :(  I'm kinda disappointed in myself for not just saying "Hey, why can't we just get VOTC Stormtroopers at a store in good quantities?", haha.  Hasbro has beaten me!  Dammit.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on May 24, 2006, 08:58 AM
I think something similar to this would be a great idea. Each themed wave should have a themed accessory. I could give a **** about named stands and mini-hologram figures (unless they look like holograms from the movie), so a useable accessory would be much better. Plus, the improved value might make the figures better sellers.

For example, each figure in the Endor wave would include a generic Ewok. Each figure would have a different Ewok in it (one or two different sculpts, multiple paint styles) with a spear.

The Tattoine wave would be the same, but using Jawas instead of Ewoks.

A Bespin wave could have Ugnaughts.

After those ideas, there are multiple others they could do:

* Cantina tables (a little bigger than Hammerhead's)
* Trade Federation clean-up droids (the short silver guys)
* Pit Droids
* Utupauans (the little fuel depot guys)
* Battle Droids
* Anakin's  childhood friends (groan)
* ET Senators
* Watto's shop junk
* Jedi Council chair for each jedi master (split into 2 pieces to fit the package better)
* Clone children
* Computer terminals from Hoth

etc.

I like this concept explained above.  I would even go for some repack figures if it meant it included and extra "little" figure like an ewok, jawa, ugnaught, or my personal dream and astromech droid with each figure....different ones in each would be nice.   
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 24, 2006, 01:42 PM
You guys are wishing for something you don't really want.

It's scary.

You're one of them, now.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nathan on May 24, 2006, 09:19 PM
I stand by what I said several pages ago:

I'm sold on Chirpa and Jerjerrod.

I'll probably get C-3PO. As I recall, the last golden 3PO I have is the original POTF2 version, and I painted him silver ages and ages ago. :P And this has the knees and chair to boot.

The DS gunner is nice but I don't need him.

And I don't need another Emperor, especially not this version.

And Brad, don't worry--count me into the Friends of the Ewoks® Club. 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 25, 2006, 11:36 AM
And Brad, don't worry--count me into the Friends of the Ewoks® Club. 8)

 >:( 

EWOK SMASHERS/Bashers anonymous rules!
Title: Re: New Pictures at Galactic Hunter
Post by: Matt on June 2, 2006, 11:45 AM
Luke Endor looks to be nothing more than the 2004 Jabba's Palace figure, with a new poncho (which looks good) and a new removable helmet.  It does look like the right hand has been reworked, so that he can properly hold his lightsaber or a blaster or whatever.  Looks like the same headsculpt, and same wonky kneejoints as the '04 Jabba's Palace figure, though--along with the same lightsaber.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on June 2, 2006, 11:59 AM
Saga-044 Luke Skywalker:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/tn_endor_luke.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/endor_luke.jpg) 

Saga-045 Darth Vader:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/tn_endor_vader.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/endor_vader.jpg) 

Saga-046 Endor Rebel Trooper:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/tn_endor_rebel.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/endor_rebel.jpg) 
Title: Re: New Naboo/Endor wave Pictures at Galactic Hunter
Post by: Ben on June 2, 2006, 12:15 PM
I like that Luke w/poncho.  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 2, 2006, 12:26 PM
I have to admit, the Luke looks pretty sharp. I still hate the fact that we won't have a proper SA version of him in that outfit, but this isn't bad at all.

Looks like they finally made Vader for me to actually open this year with this one (yes I know it's a rehash, but the accessories look cool.)

Nice head sculpt on the Endor soldier. I like that he's getting a regular blaster, I just hope it's not a rinky dink one.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on June 2, 2006, 01:07 PM
WOW! All repacks but they're good repacks!

Vader is great for a repack. I'd normally pass, but once again I'm buying a figure for its accessories.

Luke - I wish we knew exactly what Luke that is. I'm pretty sure it's the Saga/OTC Luke, but it looks like Hasbro made some modifications? Nevertheless, I'll still be getting it.

Endor Soldier - Looks good, but I'd give it a new head, one that doesn't look like Lando. And maybe throw in the big rifle too? I'm glad to see another rebel on the pegs, my Imperial army finally has somebody to fight!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on June 2, 2006, 01:10 PM
Not overly exciting, but not too bad either - especially if you put these in with the rest of the already announced Endor wave.  I really like that Luke quite a bit, and the poncho/helmet looks pretty nice in that picture.  That Luke really could have been on a top tier level if they would have gone with ball/socket knees (and elbows/shoulders).  Other than that, the sculpt and everything looked pretty good to me initially - and I'll look forward to picking up this Endor version.  I'm still hoping we'll see the "ultimate" Jedi Luke released in a future wave of VOTC/VTSC figures though.  I'll pick up that Endor Soldier too, maybe a couple (especially if we see alternate heads).  At least they appear to have given him articulated knees - but an all new SA sculpt would have been nice.  That said, it doesn't look too bad.  I'm not sure on the Vader yet.  I have the first version, but the accessories might be enough to pick up this one.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on June 2, 2006, 01:15 PM
This seems to be the breakdown:

(39) Chief Chirpa
(40) Moff Jerjerrod
(41) Death Star Gunner
(42) C-3PO Diety
(43) Emperor (thanks for the catch Jeff ;))
(44) Luke Endor
(45) Darth Vader
(46) Black Endor Soldier
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 2, 2006, 01:20 PM
Actually, (43) should be The Emperor (repack), not R2-D2.  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on June 2, 2006, 01:27 PM
Anyone else wondering if they do a running change on the Endor Soldier similar to what the orginal SAGA series did?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on June 2, 2006, 01:51 PM
Why would that Vader included the skull and inner cybernetic arm accessories?

Can an Endor Leia be that far behind?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on June 2, 2006, 01:55 PM
OMG! OMG! OMG!


I almost flipped out of my chair when I read this!!!

I can't believe that Luke really isn't cancelled! It's a dream come true!

And that Vader is just amazing!

OMG!!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 2, 2006, 01:59 PM
Actually, (43) should be The Emperor (repack), not R2-D2.  ;)

Wasn't there a rumor going around a month or two ago that there was gonna be an Artoo included with the Endor wave, though?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on June 2, 2006, 02:09 PM
I really like the looks of the soft goods poncho on Luke.  I will get that for sure.   

Rebel Commando - I like that they chose an African American head.  Is it Lando?  I wish they would have made one for the Bespin Guard as a variant.  I might buy a few of these.  It would be nice to have a caucasion head sculpt as well. 

Vader - At least they put a different Vader out there this time.  I like the accsories as well.  I am not sure if I'll get him or not?  JMost likely I will for the fun of it. 

Yes it would be nice to have an Endor Leia with that kind of poncho on Luke.  I also wish they would come out with a mother Ewok and her baby.  They could have 2 packed that with Chirpa. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2006, 02:16 PM
For me right now, the Endor Commando is the most interesting of the lot...  Hasbro super articulated his legs if I'm not mistaken.  I think I see ankle joint lines there, and ball/socket knees.

While it's not totally new, the waistcoat looks like it's shortened slightly at the shoulders and may leave for better poseability at the arms.  The legs look like a VAST improvement but I'm gonna wait to see one loose before I judge it completely because they are still spread apart wide.  If it is articulated that shouldn't be a problem but only if the knees and ankles are poseable.  Otherwise it's gonna have a wide leg stance irregardless.

The head looks like a Lando head to me...  To be honest I'd have preferred them repainting (different hair color, maybe some painted on stubble) the two heads the Saga 02 figure had, but still an African American head is cool too, I just think that's a Lando head slapped on there.

The new belt looks rocking on it though.  Very cool to get a holster for a RFT pistol.  I hope he comes with the rifle as well though as the Endor Soldiers weren't seen with anything but the rifle.  As a kitbash with only SOME new toolings I think that's fair to ask.

Right now that's the most exciting figure for me...  An army builder, and what may potentially be the best Rebel Soldier army builder to-date...  The only current disappointment I have is the lack of new arms.  It'd have been nice to get some ball/socket elbows on the soldier, but overall that body wasn't bad, it was always the legs that killed the figure for me so this makes me glad...  I've even customed up a couple troopers using better legs and that same torso just because the legs always killed that figure for me.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on June 2, 2006, 02:16 PM

I also wish they would come out with a mother Ewok and her baby. 


Yeah I like that Idea...here's how I'd modify it....
A before/after card-
Before- nice little mum Ewok with dink  
After-pancaked by ATST mum ewok with crying dink

I don't care if it's movie accurate, I'd buy

PS: on the pancaked mum..include x's for the eyes ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on June 2, 2006, 02:20 PM
The head looks like a Lando head to me...  To be honest I'd have preferred them repainting (different hair color, maybe some painted on stubble) the two heads the Saga 02 figure had, but still an African American head is cool too, I just think that's a Lando head slapped on there.

I would just call it a black head...Africa/America didn't exist in SW!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 2, 2006, 02:23 PM
I just think that's a Lando head slapped on there.

That's because Lando is the man.  Not only did he blow up the second Death Star, but he secretly was able to land on Endor too and turned the tide in the Battle of Endor, but due to film editing, the Ewoks got all the credit.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 2, 2006, 02:26 PM
Wasn't there a rumor going around a month or two ago that there was gonna be an Artoo included with the Endor wave, though?

Yeah, there was... but then we found out that it's just the Hoth R2-D2 again.

From EE:
1x R2-D2 (Saga #10), 1x Commander Cody (Saga #24), 1x Darth Vader (Bespin, Saga #38), 2x Chief Chirpa (Saga #39), 2x Moff Jerjerrod (Saga #40), 2x Death Star Gunner (Saga #41), 2x C-3PO (Ewok Village, Saga #42), 1x Emperor Palpatine (Saga #43).
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: SilverZ on June 2, 2006, 02:49 PM
That's a great soft goods poncho for Luke. Someday maybe they'll make a proper SA Jedi Luke that is up to current line and industry standards to put it on.  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 2, 2006, 02:58 PM
Yeah, there was... but then we found out that it's just the Hoth R2-D2 again.

Oh.  Well, that sucks.  'Cause I could really go for a Bunker-Blasted Artoo. 

(And for that matter, I could really go for a Death Star Trench-blasted Artoo, as well.  Not to mention a simple Artoo repaint on the new astromech body--which is much better than the VOTC body that they're continuing to pump out.)

Oh well.  Thanks anyway.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on June 2, 2006, 03:03 PM
Here's my speculation on these 3 figures:

Luke: I'm...speechless. There are honestly no adjectives created that can fulfill how happy I am about this figure. Oh, and to those of you who think it'll be the OTC figure w/ a poncho, you are wrong. He is not wearing that outfit under the poncho in the movie. He is wearing the outfit he wears when he fights Vader. Hasbro has made a few mistakes in the past as far as keeping track with the movies, but nothing that big.

Vader: Once again, i'm basically speechless. I've been wanting the ultimate final duel Vader FOREVER. This is just...fantastic. I'll be buying it in a heartbeat.

Endor Soldier: Well, this and the Emperor will be the pegwarmers of the wave. Not too excited about this one. And as someone said earlier, isn't this a G.I. Joe sculpt (or at least part of it)?


I'm very happy!! :D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: jedipurge on June 2, 2006, 03:06 PM
 ;D this is a great wave for sure now, right up there with the Tat wave for me anyway.  Black rebel great idea not only does hasbo need to up the rebels out there they need to mix the races.  I for one would love to see latin, asain, white even though we've already had that variations running.  Also who down the line wouldn't love to see head/racial variations of x-wing pilots using the VTSC body running around in some future wave.  Vader kicks ass definate buy just for those accessories.  Luke on the other hand wasn't he just wearing the shirt and not the robey looking thing by that piont in the movie?  so wouldn't hasbro at least have to change that on him?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 2, 2006, 03:16 PM
Oh, and to those of you who think it'll be the OTC figure w/ a poncho, you are wrong. He is not wearing that outfit under the poncho in the movie. He is wearing the outfit he wears when he fights Vader. Hasbro has made a few mistakes in the past as far as keeping track with the movies, but nothing that big.

Just because that's what the character was wearing in the movie, doesn't mean that Hasbro wouldn't just do a simple repack with a new accessory or two.

(Someone feel free to scale these down and do a side-by-side if necessary)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/sw0404lukejedifront.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/endor_luke.jpg)

The lower legs look identical, with the same knee joints--which they haven't used on another figure in a while.  The head and left hands look identical.  The right hand has obviously been reworked.  That's pretty much all we know at this point, without getting a peek under the poncho.   :o
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on June 2, 2006, 03:26 PM
Yes, The legs could kitbashed and from this we just can't tell what's underneath.

Which leads me to my next Q for Chewie-

"Oh, and to those of you who think it'll be the OTC figure w/ a poncho, you are wrong. He is not wearing that outfit under the poncho in the movie. He is wearing the outfit he wears when he fights Vader"

How do you expertly know this(that Hasblow got it right)? Are you looking at a different/(poncho removed) photo than we are?

Does it feel good to tell people they're wrong about something? Is it EGO boosting?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on June 2, 2006, 03:29 PM

Does it feel good to tell people they're wrong about something? Is it EGO boosting?


I think the answer is yes.  Depending on the person telling them is wrong feels good.  Ego boosting?  I do not know about that but people tell me I am wrong all the time and they seem to feel better about it. :'(
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on June 2, 2006, 03:38 PM
HaHa that was a funny reply, thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: evenflow on June 2, 2006, 05:20 PM
That Vader is incredible. Another great wave!  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 2, 2006, 05:24 PM
Yes, The legs could kitbashed and from this we just can't tell what's underneath.

Which leads me to my next Q for Chewie-

"Oh, and to those of you who think it'll be the OTC figure w/ a poncho, you are wrong. He is not wearing that outfit under the poncho in the movie. He is wearing the outfit he wears when he fights Vader"

How do you expertly know this(that Hasblow got it right)? Are you looking at a different/(poncho removed) photo than we are?

Does it feel good to tell people they're wrong about something? Is it EGO boosting?

What in the world are you talking about?  I never said any of that - I think you are quoting the wrong person.

 ???
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 2, 2006, 06:31 PM
I want all 3 plus an extra Rebel.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Resurrection Bob on June 2, 2006, 06:32 PM
The Vader looks like the same sculpt as the Emperor's Wrath version, just with a new mechanical piece running through the arm.  My question is, do we really think he comes with the stuff pictured, or is that just some parts of the figure disassembled?  The little mechanical piece next to him looks to be the same one inside his right arm, and I don't know why a Vader would come with a skull besides the one inside his helmet.  So he can do a Scorpion fatality, perhaps?

I'd be surprised if Luke's body is different under that poncho, but either way, this is a kitbash that makes sense and that I've wanted for a while.  The rebel guy looks pretty good and should fit in with the Endor soldiers I already have, while being an improvement over them in the articulation department.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on June 2, 2006, 07:39 PM
Luke- That poncho looks fantastis as does the new hoslter. Like everyone, I was wishing for an all new SA Luke. This will have to do for now I guess, at least they fixed up the hands some.

Vader- Another pretty good kitbash/repack. Count me in for 1.

Endor Soldier- This one is the highlight of the wave for me. It isn't the SA Rebel I wanted so badly but it is much better than the SAGA version. I'm glad the articulated the legs and did away witht eh crappy pose. THe thing I'm a little worried about is the wide stance he has, perhaps the legs were just placed funny during the scan. The new holster looks great, I really do hope he comes with the rifle as well. The head looks fine to me, hopefully the will go ahead and have a variant or two with different heads. Count me in for a few of these.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on June 2, 2006, 08:24 PM
While these three new figures all look great, especially the Endor Rebel Trooper, I'll pass on all of them. For reference:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/endor_luke.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/endor_vader.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/endor_rebel.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on June 2, 2006, 08:30 PM
In all honesty that Vader with the extra skeleton head is ridiculous IMO.  Great for custom fodder but I think it will look pretty dumb with that head on. Would of made more sense releasing a second head similar to the POTF Wrath version but maybe a bit more transparent.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 2, 2006, 08:34 PM
Sure these aren't custom figures? Meh.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on June 2, 2006, 08:39 PM
The stands have no peg holes...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on June 2, 2006, 09:49 PM
Sure these aren't custom figures? Meh.

They are hand-painted prototypes for sure. Who knows if that is actually what the finished versions will look like.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on June 2, 2006, 10:00 PM
The stands have no peg holes...

That is odd.  Well actually it's stupid.  Maybe that is just for the picture?  I don't know? 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 2, 2006, 10:43 PM
Sure these aren't custom figures? Meh.

If they are, I wish I could customize that good.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 3, 2006, 01:50 AM
I think Slothus was directing his post at Roton7's post as he quoted it if I'm not mistaken, and he probably just erred when typing the name out...

Anyhoo, my thoughts on the whole shebang here...

-Luke...  The poncho looks good, though there's potential there for bulkiness...  Are we SURE that Luke doesn't wear the vest under the poncho on Endor?  I seem to recall the argument made at one point or another that the vest can be seen at some point on him, but it's off when he's taken to Vader on the landing platform... 

Either way, Grammy Tarkin's right that you can't see under the poncho to know one way or the other, but what we can see is the legs of the OTC/Saga Jedi Luke, and the head/hand as well...  That's not boding well for an all-new body.

For my money, a SA Luke with a removable vest and poncho would've been the ideal...  Have a heat/cold decal on the chest to show the "open flap" for his Death Star Duel, and you'd have a Luke for all seasons from ROTJ...  Not that any of that cool **** would happen, it's just what should happen. :)

-Vader...  I agree that I think we maybe don't get all that stuff and this just turns out to be a prettier EW Vader...  Nothing more for accessories and stuff though.

-Rebel Trooper...  Again I say, I'm holding my judgment till I see one more up close, but to be honest that looks pretty decent.  If the vest is flexible enough the arm articulation will be even better too...  But the upper body of the Saga Endor Rebel wasn't bad, it was the legs that killed, and it appears Hasbro gave the SA treatment to at least those new legs...  The head I'm indifferent on, but head variants would obviously be nice because the Saga figure was NEVER worth army building.

To me the Endor soldier will be the better seller of these 3...  EW Vader didn't fly off the pegs first time around, and Luke's as "likely" to sell as the Anakin and Obi-Wan are with their spiffy cloaks...  Sure a poncho's cool, and I like the belt, but neither's a HUGE selling point for a $7 figure so I don't think it's got the feet under it some do...  The Endor Rebel's an army builder, and unlike Snowtroopers and whatnot, he's an IMPROVED army builder...  That's grounds for some popularity, but I don't think he'll have the movement a Clone does obviously...  he'll do ok for a while though.  I wager moving like the AT-AT Driver or OTC TIE Pilot, or Cloud Car pilot...  Steady sales after an initial burst...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on June 3, 2006, 02:21 AM
I doubt they're customs, the luke poncho and the names on the figure stands mean that someone's a seamstress and good with photoshop for the names, or their legit. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on June 3, 2006, 01:38 PM
I would bet they're legit.  That Naboo wave (has the same background and layout) looks too nice to be custom.

Am I the only one who thinks that Endor Vader kicks ass?  I wonder if that skull fits inside the helmet to get the true affect of the movie.

Great figure regardless, reminds me of the Dagobah Vader that had the "Luke Reveal" feature.  That was cool for it's time.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 8, 2006, 10:49 AM
Anyone else wondering if they do a running change on the Endor Soldier similar to what the orginal SAGA series did?

Variants! (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/default.cfm?page=news&newsid=B004993D-D56F-E112-43B20BE5AA0320F6)   ;D

(http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/86980b_rebel_trooper_black.jpg)(http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/86980a-rebel-trooper-white2.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on June 8, 2006, 11:11 AM
Thanks for the pics/link Jeff, that's definitely some nice news.  The figures don't look too bad, and its nice to get some variety in the soldier ranks as well.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 8, 2006, 11:23 AM
Those Endor troops ROCK!  I am so happy about this... best figure in the Endor wave, at least in my opinion.  I'll probably get 4 white ones, 2 black ones.  Nice!

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Naboo Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 8, 2006, 12:23 PM
That second Endor soldier is a nice surprise and the pictures of both look great. They'll be nice to add to the army.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 8, 2006, 12:29 PM
Variants! (http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/default.cfm?page=news&newsid=B004993D-D56F-E112-43B20BE5AA0320F6)   ;D

Remember when Hasbro's updates used to include little nuggets of info about the actual figures, for us collectors who pretty much already knew everything there was to know about the characters themselves?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 8, 2006, 12:33 PM
What?  You need more than just:

"Each figure comes with a base and a randomly-selected bonus hologram figure"

Sheesh!  Some folks are never happy...  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nirvana on June 8, 2006, 12:35 PM
Wait, is the rebel trooper a continuation of the Endor wave with the DSG, Jerrod, and C3po?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 8, 2006, 12:52 PM
Yes, originally the Rebel Troopers WERE part of the Endor wave with Chirpa, 3PO, etc.

Speak of the devil, more news from the rumor mill found it's way to my in-box.

*new* - Chief Chirpa
*new* - Moff Jerjerrod
*new* - Death Star Gunner
?? - C-3PO (Endor)
?? - Endor Rebel Commando
(repack) - Luke Skywalker (Jedi)
(repack) - Darth Vader
(repack) - The Emperor

Then, they got dropped for some reason. 

Now they are back and will be in the Naboo wave box, but since they are not really from Naboo, it's just easier to talk about them here in the Endor thread with the rest of the 06 Saga Endor figures.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 8, 2006, 01:01 PM
(http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/86950-luke-sky-walker.jpg)

I'm starting to like this Luke more and more.  Sure, as far as we know, it's pretty much just the 2004 Jabba's Palace Luke with a new hand and new gear, but, with the new hand, it fixes that old figure's biggest flaw, and it was already a decent figure to begin with.

But what it also does is frees up room for them to really to go all-out on a Death Star II Luke if they want to, without having to worry about all the Endor stuff.

Speaking of which:

Luke: I'm...speechless. There are honestly no adjectives created that can fulfill how happy I am about this figure. Oh, and to those of you who think it'll be the OTC figure w/ a poncho, you are wrong. He is not wearing that outfit under the poncho in the movie. He is wearing the outfit he wears when he fights Vader. Hasbro has made a few mistakes in the past as far as keeping track with the movies, but nothing that big.

Luke/Leia 1 (vest on) (http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Images/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Luke_Skywalker/Return_of_the_Jedi&img=16)
Luke/Leia 2 (vest still on) (http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Images/Classic_Trilogy/Locations/Endor&img=16)
Luke surrenders to Vader (vest-free) (http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Images/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Luke_Skywalker/Return_of_the_Jedi&img=16)

You might still be correct, "Roton7."  But that would involve Luke removing his vest before donning his poncho, somehow carrying it around with him while he's gallivanting around the forest moon, removing his poncho and putting the vest back on to talk to Sis', only to remove it again before he surrenders to Dad moments later.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 8, 2006, 01:07 PM
2 of the black dude & 2 of the white guy as well.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on June 8, 2006, 01:33 PM
Varients! Nice. I need a bunch to face off with my Imperials. Probably 3 of each. If only we could get elbow articulation!

Luke looks like he has new arms too? I don't remember the JP Luke's swivel elbows going up that high, but I could be wrong. I'll have to pull mine out and look.

Vader is nice, but I'm really just getting it for the cool accessories.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on June 8, 2006, 01:35 PM
I see what you mean, Grandma Tarkin. Well, I guess this is another mess-up on GL's part. ::)


Oh, and I like how the Endor Troopers don't have only a different face sculpt, but different paint aps on the pants as well. Very cool 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 8, 2006, 01:39 PM
After further review, the variant Rebel Trooper isn't from Endor... he was one of the gunners from Lando's crew on the Falcon.

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/rebeltroopers/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Guess that explains why he gets the non-camo pants and the microphone w/cord!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mikey D on June 8, 2006, 01:41 PM
Holy ****.  Talk about an obscure figure.  Good catch, Jeff.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 8, 2006, 01:50 PM
I see what you mean, Grandma Tarkin. Well, I guess this is another mess-up on GL's part. ::)

Wouldn't the simplest explanation be that he was wearing the vest the whole movie up until after he talked to Leia, at which point he took it off and surrendered to Vader?

From Rebelscum's vintage photo archive Luke Poncho page: (http://www.rebelscum.com/VINtLukeponcho.asp)

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The Luke Skywalker (In Battle Poncho) action figure poisoned our minds into believing the young Jedi didn’t wear his full Jedi wardrobe underneath his battle poncho. Fact of the matter is, he not only wore the tunic he was seen in before that point, he also sported a belt over the tunic -completing his Jedi transformation- on which he kept his trusty Lightsaber. To date, neither kenner or Hasbro has made a rendition of Luke wearing the complete Jedi outfit including the belt.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on June 8, 2006, 02:04 PM
I see what you mean, Grandma Tarkin. Well, I guess this is another mess-up on GL's part. ::)


Oh, and I like how the Endor Troopers don't have only a different face sculpt, but different paint aps on the pants as well. Very cool 8)

Yep, I like that they changed the paints as well.  Very nice variants IMO. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 8, 2006, 05:14 PM
I'd say even simpler would be that the Imperials removed the vest from him, being sure to strip him of potential concealment spots for a weapon they missed.  He is missing it when they drag him to Vader afterall and hand over the only weapon he had...  Good pics from Grammie to support that he wore the vest on Endor though...  I knew there were images somewhere that pertained to that.

The Endor Soldiers are my favorites of the wave as well CHEWIE, and I'll easily stock up on these like I buy Clones or Stormtroopers.  I figure 20 of each at least, and I'll supply heads for them then.

I love the Falcon Gunner...  The scenes in which they were used got cut, and you only see the additional command crewers in them.  It is, for me, the uniform of the Commandoes that they wear for ship or street combat...  They have different duds for different environments though.

For the curious, the outfit's actually inaccurate too.  The pants should be pocketless.  They actually wear a single-piece jumpsuit under the Commando vest, not the baggy pocketed pants and the undershirt thing.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on June 8, 2006, 10:32 PM
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I'd say even simpler would be that the Imperials removed the vest from him, being sure to strip him of potential concealment spots for a weapon they missed.  He is missing it when they drag him to Vader afterall and hand over the only weapon he had... 
Wow- that makes so much sense! It always seemed weird to me once I noticed that he removed it; there was no real reason for doing that. He wore it in combat to Jabba's palace/the sail barge, and kept it on seemingly for the rest of the movie, and it was the "jediish" part of his outfit; seems like he would probably wear it on the Death Star. But the imperial troops removing it, on the other hand... makes perfect sense.

I am definately, definately grabbing that Luke if I ever find him in stores/reasonably priced online. Luke and C3PO are my big aims for the Endor wave :)

The Naboo line has me about as fascinated as an average session of congress though- that Obi Wan is an utter waste of potential to make something better. Come on, at least they could've tried to make a new headsculpt that actually looked like it was supposed to resemble Ewan McGregor instead of some nameless "bloke." The resemblance lies in the outfit and the hairdo, and possibly in the head being from about the right age group, and not much else.

I can't wait to see how the Yavin wave pans out, though...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on June 8, 2006, 10:35 PM
There isn't a Yavin wave, at least not for the Saga Collection.

Go to the Hasbro page with all the new figure pics, and it clearly says that Naboo is the last wave of the TSC. Will the Yavin wave start off the rumored OTC2 line? Who knows...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 8, 2006, 10:37 PM
I'd say even simpler would be that the Imperials removed the vest from him, being sure to strip him of potential concealment spots for a weapon they missed.  He is missing it when they drag him to Vader afterall and hand over the only weapon he had...

Okay, fine, Mister "I have analyzed every single minute of every single movie of the saga looking for anything having to do with any weaponry or the military," you win.   ::)

Point being, he had the tunic on right up until he surrendered to Vader.  Doesn't matter how it came off his person.

I like to think that he took it off because he was so hot and bothered after talking to his former love interest.   :o

And to extrapolate on that, the real reason he turned himself in, was 'cause he knew he'd get to take that cold shower he needed on the Death Star.  Obviously, they didn't have the proper facilities at the Ewok village.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 9, 2006, 12:33 AM
Yes thinking that I maked out with my sister would get me hot & bothered also!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 9, 2006, 01:10 AM
I'm agreeing with you, you bastard. :)  Just offering a different perspective because I'm a loser...  of course.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 9, 2006, 01:24 AM
So when will this come out?I'm hoping sometime in July instead of August.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on June 9, 2006, 01:43 AM
Dumb aside thought from someone who never really keeps up with the news on anyting all that well:

With the Tatooine Wave is out now, and only two waves left supposedly in "The Saga Collection," this theoretically puts the line finishing up by July or August, right? Doesn't that mean that the line will be finished by the DVDs are out?

Now, I know there's those funky "DVD collector's sets" of repack figures that only I could love (because I don't even own the 4+ year old originals), but remember, there was a mention in some article about a "new line of action figures." As last I checked everyone assumed it meant those box sets, but perhaps this refers in fact to a real new line of figures, starting with the Yavin wave? And if there's a "rumored OTC2 line," that would make perfect sense to coincide with the new OT DVD release.

Just a thought ;) Might be a totally bogus, wacky theory on my part.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 9, 2006, 01:51 AM
So when will this come out?I'm hoping sometime in July instead of August.

July?!  We're just now seeing publicity pics of this wave, for ****'s sake!  We're not even close to seeing carded pics anytime soon, and when we do, it'll still be several weeks until they hit the states.

And keep in mind that the collective "Endor wave" is really gonna show up in two parts:  The first five (Chirpa, Jerjerrod, Imperial Gunner, the Emperor, and Threepio) and then the others (Luke, Rebel Troops, and Vader) with the Naboo wave, sometime after that.

They're still quite a ways off.

I'm agreeing with you, you bastard. :)  Just offering a different perspective because I'm a loser...  of course.

We're all losers, in our own special way. 

Gimme a hug, you son of a bitch.

(http://www.desertratdemocrat.com/archives/1-mccain_bush_hug.jpg)

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on June 9, 2006, 02:09 AM
Oh... well, that makes sense really, but when are the DVDs coming out? Isn't that still up in the air as well?

Like I said, my theory is a bit whack probably. Just something that popped to mind, and seemed like it might fit.

Whenever these come out, I'm still looking forward to that Luke and to C3PO. If I have the money to spare I might pick up a Vader too... though I might hunt up a real Emporer's Wrath Vader instead.

But for now I should be finding a R5-D4 and a Sandtrooper, really. I'd so love to get a bunch of those Sandtroopers, and make custom normal stormtroopers out of them... but I bear the Curse of the POTF2 apparently. Anyone want 2 normal (actually they're painted a bit, but it's only minor improvements), one slightly reposed, and two WIP reposed (not my handywork, though I'll probably seriously be finishing them) POTF2 stormtroopers, in exchange for one VOTC? How about two or three commtechs?? Pleeeease? No? Okay...

Perhaps I should go to bed. >.<
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 9, 2006, 02:22 AM
Oh... well, that makes sense really, but when are the DVDs coming out? Isn't that still up in the air as well?

Still September 12.  Always been September 12.  Never been up in the air at all.

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If I have the money to spare I might pick up a Vader too... though I might hunt up a real Emporer's Wrath Vader instead.

Why?  All the original POTJ figure has is the saber and the goofy Force File, while the new one has all this stuff, too:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/endor_vader.jpg)

I'm still not sure what the exposed skull and mechanical arm are there for, exactly, but this one just has "more stuff" than the old one; therefore, buying the old one instead of the new one is silly, unless you're a die-hard Force File collector.

And nobody collected those Force Files.

Except maybe Jesse.

They had a ton of military info in them.



Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 9, 2006, 02:28 AM
So when will this come out?I'm hoping sometime in July instead of August.

July?!  We're just now seeing publicity pics of this wave, for ****'s sake!  We're not even close to seeing carded pics anytime soon, and when we do, it'll still be several weeks until they hit the states.

And keep in mind that the collective "Endor wave" is really gonna show up in two parts:  The first five (Chirpa, Jerjerrod, Imperial Gunner, the Emperor, and Threepio) and then the others (Luke, Rebel Troops, and Vader) with the Naboo wave, sometime after that.

They're still quite a ways off.

I meant the first part of the wave,I can wait for the last 3.I'm passing on Palps thoe.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on June 9, 2006, 02:29 AM
Wow... I knew nothing about this figure but the info on the site.

...so that makes 3 figures I'll be needing in the Endor wave(s... however you care to count it) that I'll be needing, then ^.-

Also, as I said, I'm the "Out of Date" spokesperson. My figure collection is still like 75% POTF2s.... but, september doesn't really throw my theory. Only Hasbro/Lucasfilm's obvious and time-proven lack of common sense to concoct such a scheme will do that ;) Or, it'll turn out to be true, and we'll all rue the day because of some unforeseen gimickery.

I actually own two Force Files. They're interesting to a point, but...

I have to say, that while a little plastic thing is more impressive than a piece of paper, the Force Files were more relavent to the figure and better thought-out than this mini holo schtick. Although I love the stands, and the hologram figures can be used as a nice seperate display thingy... but they're just so totally unrelated to the figure that it makes me roll my eyes at the cheapness and lack of thought and sheer gimickyness. I guess it beats having action features on the new sculpts though...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 9, 2006, 03:14 AM
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Except maybe Jesse.

They had a ton of military info in them.

I'd be less pissed if it weren't 100% true...   >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mikey D on June 9, 2006, 08:24 AM
And nobody collected those Force Files.

Except maybe Jesse.

They had a ton of military info in them.



Call me a nobody then.  I have them all in a three ring binder in those plastic business card holders.  Wow, I suck.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 9, 2006, 10:42 AM
Call me a nobody then.  I have them all in a three ring binder in those plastic business card holders.  Wow, I suck.

(I collected them, too.  Don't tell anybody.)

(Well, I don't know that I "collected" them, but I never threw them out, either.  Is that the same as collecting them?  I have an aversion to throwing things like that away, no matter how lame they are.  They weren't really that lame, though.  They were kind of neat, I guess, it's just that Hasbro never supported them like they did with the Freeze Frames, with the little folders and the macrobinocular viewer and all.  They could have at least put out a little mail-away binder or something; that would have been cool.  POTJ was really a collector-oriented line, and we would have eaten something like that up with a spoon.  But no, they couldn't do that, so all of us collectors--or people who never threw things away--were collecting--or not throwing away--all of those things, which were meant to be collected.  Weren't they numbered, even?  They made us hang on to all of those things, and then didn't even bother trying to sell us something to keep them all in.  It was the Star Wars collecting equivalent of not giving someone a reach-around.  I don't even know where all mine are.  I think maybe I put them all in a baggie or something.)

Anyway, I take back all that stuff I said about Force File collectors. 

Except Jesse.

Signed,

Stream of Consciousness Man
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 10, 2006, 02:17 AM
Keeping them for ***** and giggles is like saying your junk drawer in your kitchen is a collection...  I think you're safely not a collector of them.

I opened and read each one thinking what in it looked cool to customize maybe, or just to read the information...  I didn't get my jollies from it really, I just read them.

OK I did get my jollies from them...  I admit it.

And I bought a business card holder for them too, making me equally nerdy on that level.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on June 10, 2006, 12:57 PM
Keeping them for ***** and giggles is like saying your junk drawer in your kitchen is a collection...  I think you're safely not a collector of them.

Have you seen what's been passing for "collections" in Rebelscum's Collector's Collections feature lately?

I'd say a baggie of Force Files would qualify. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nicklab on June 10, 2006, 07:44 PM
And nobody collected those Force Files.

Except maybe Jesse.

They had a ton of military info in them.



Call me a nobody then.  I have them all in a three ring binder in those plastic business card holders.  Wow, I suck.


I did something like that with the Jedi Force files, too.  But I used baseball card inserts.  Also did this with the POTF2 Flashbacks, although there were a lot less of those.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on July 7, 2006, 01:06 PM
Courtesy of Rebelscum:

Carded Saga 045 Vader (http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC45vader1.jpg)

Loose Saga 045 Vader (http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC45vader2.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on July 7, 2006, 02:50 PM
Am I the only one who is actually stoked about the Vader in this assortment? 

I think it's really cool how they did the translucent plastic again and included the skull.

There's really not much left to do with Vader after this version...(that's what I said after the Dagobah version).... :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on July 7, 2006, 02:55 PM
They could still do a funeral pyre (sp?) accessory I suppose.  But yeah for the most part he's been done to death in the OT at least. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mister Skeezler on July 7, 2006, 05:10 PM
We already have that Vader though...mine has been holding the Emperor over his head for a few years now. Does there really need to be a Vader in every wave? Oh well, as long as he sells I guess...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 7, 2006, 05:29 PM
Oh well, as long as he sells I guess...

But the thing is, he doesn't sell.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 7, 2006, 09:53 PM
...mine has been holding the Emperor over his head for a few years now.

Me too. :D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2006, 12:16 AM


There's really not much left to do with Vader after this version...(that's what I said after the Dagobah version).... :-\


Something tells me that won't stop Hasbro.

 :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ben on July 8, 2006, 03:40 AM
GH says these have hit. (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=5541&zoneid=2)

Damn, I just finished the Tatooine wave on Tuesday.

That's a pretty neat feature on the Death Star Gunner too.  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 8, 2006, 03:47 AM
Yeah that post about the Death Star Gunner has me in Army Builder anxiety mode right now...  May be one of the best "basic" army builders ever actually.  Kudos to Hasbro on that.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2006, 09:57 AM
While I initially thought of Robocop when I saw the image, this is a very good idea for all army builders, I think stormtroopers, snowtroopers, biker scouts and all other helmeted imperials should have this feature with multiple head sculpts.

(http://www.galactichunter.com/image_bank/saga/dsgfull.jpg)

(http://www.tvsquad.com/images/2005/03/robocop.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nirvana on July 8, 2006, 10:07 AM
Well, hopefully these'll be like the ATAT Drivers so I'll be able to pick up a few...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 8, 2006, 10:39 AM
*Roton faints after reading about the DS gunner*


EDIT: I just looked at the pic again, I find the watermark kind of funny. I didn't realized the words 'stolen from' before.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on July 8, 2006, 11:08 AM
I did not realize all DS gunners were turning into "Sith" with Red Eyes...will not bother me though, since they will never have their helmets off to reveal the "Clone trooper" head.

But I do see some customs options of throwing some DS Trooper heads on that guy for the ROTJ Jumpsuited Trooper. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2006, 03:57 PM
I did not realize all DS gunners were turning into "Sith" with Red Eyes...will not bother me though, since they will never have their helmets off to reveal the "Clone trooper" head.

That's how I'm going to look at it too.  If they wanted to do various heads, I'd be cool with it - but if they want to put Jango's head on everything, they'll never see daylight at my collection.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on July 8, 2006, 04:27 PM
The heads on my DS troopers are all going to remain hidden as well. It's a great feature, don't ge me wrong, but I'm not a fan of the use of a Jango head. Had they used a regular head or two I'd have displayed a few without the helmet.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 8, 2006, 04:45 PM
The good thing about the Clone head is, with a little painting, it'll look like anyone...  I'm a little disappointed Hasbro's running with the "all clone" look though as well (upon reflection) since the EU says to the contrary and LFL's run with that despite Lucas's intent.

It's generic enough that, with lighter flesh tone, different eyes, and different colored hair it'll look just fine...  But production-wise mine won't display without thehelmet either, not by a longshot, as I don't go with the Clones = Empire idea myself.

Funny thing is, the biker scout with flip-up visor isn't a Jango Clone...  NOt by the early shots we've gotten anyway, so who knows.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nicklab on July 8, 2006, 04:59 PM
Am I the only one who is actually stoked about the Vader in this assortment? 

I think it's really cool how they did the translucent plastic again and included the skull.

There's really not much left to do with Vader after this version...(that's what I said after the Dagobah version).... :-\

Actually, I think a young Anakin in the suit would be a good version.  We got the Deluxe version in the ROTS line, but it really isn't good for much other than having it strapped to the operating table.  A well articulated version with removable helmet and a ROTS era Anakin head would be a welcome version of Vader in my collection.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 8, 2006, 05:38 PM
While a removeable helmet is cool, the Jango head is not. That helmet will be staying on. Besides, when did we ever see Imperials without their helmets?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 8, 2006, 07:09 PM
It doesn't look like a Jango Clone head to me... Seems too pale.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2006, 09:01 PM
It's hard to keep your tan wearning biker scout armor all day long.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 8, 2006, 09:55 PM
I always thought that Jango's skin tone was natural, not a tan...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 8, 2006, 11:33 PM
I just caught the removable helmet thing. Way cool.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 9, 2006, 02:17 AM
I always thought that Jango's skin tone was natural, not a tan...

Well, Temuera Morrison is from New Zealand and he's Maori - so yes, his skin tone is natural and not a tan.

But Jango Fett and the clones that ended up as Biker Scouts?  Who the hell knows?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 9, 2006, 03:40 PM
So the Gunner will have a Fett head?Looks cool,I'll have one Gunner W/O the helmet on then.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on July 9, 2006, 04:14 PM
Wow, I was already excited about this figure, but the removable helmet makes this even better.  Figure of the year in my opinion.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2006, 04:50 PM
Man, the new sandtrooper would have been very sweet with this helmet feature.  I might have to take matters (and my dremel) into my own hands and do the backtracking for Hasbro.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 9, 2006, 05:02 PM
Wow, I was already excited about this figure, but the removable helmet makes this even better.  Figure of the year in my opinion.

 :)
I think 3PO is that.We have waited for a Diety 3PO since '83!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 9, 2006, 07:38 PM
Wow, I was already excited about this figure, but the removable helmet makes this even better.  Figure of the year in my opinion.

 :)

From the pics thus far, I have to agree! This figure looks abosoultely fantastic!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 9, 2006, 10:19 PM
Has there been any other sighting since Pawles'?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 9, 2006, 10:33 PM
I noticed that the GH page said that their figures were obtained via Entertainment Earth, which makes me believe that they got theirs early, and that these aren't shipping yet.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 9, 2006, 10:38 PM
****... I hope they don't ship soon, I haven't even seen Tatooine Wave yet! With all the VTSC, Hoth Vaders, And Holo Mundis clogging my Target's pegs, I doubt I'll even see Endor at all.

 :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 9, 2006, 10:49 PM
I noticed that the GH page said that their figures were obtained via Entertainment Earth, which makes me believe that they got theirs early, and that these aren't shipping yet.

Good. I'm driving from NC to PA later in the week and don't want to be tempted to to stop at every Target and WM I pass. :-[
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Vator on July 9, 2006, 11:25 PM
Well if they were found in NC, it would figure. The two weeks I'm out west would be the ones in which the Carolinas get hit.  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on July 10, 2006, 10:23 AM
The removable helmet on the gunner is definitely a nice surprise.  I'm not sure how I feel about all the Jango heads either, but it is a neat feature.  I was wondering if these have actually "hit" retail or not as well.  I just got caught up for the first time in a long time on Friday, so it felt like a bit of a relief.  Of course, I wouldn't mind if the Endor wave started showing up either I guess - looking forward to the Gunner, 3PO, Chirpa, and Jerjerrod.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nicklab on July 10, 2006, 12:25 PM
I noticed that the GH page said that their figures were obtained via Entertainment Earth, which makes me believe that they got theirs early, and that these aren't shipping yet.

Toymaniacs has had the wave listed for sale for a few days now.  E-tailers seem to be getting their orders.  It's somewhat surprising to see these showing up there and not at the big brick and mortar outlets first, since those accounts usually command the earliest shipments.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2006, 03:07 PM
Has there been any other sighting since Pawles'?

Nope, not that I'm aware of, but with them hitting EE, it'll be no time here...  Part of me is happy, part of me would rather see more Tat Wave for a while.  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 10, 2006, 03:47 PM
Well as for me, I've being seeing the Tatooine wave for weeks and weeks now. It's a great wave and all, but I'm sick of it.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 10, 2006, 03:57 PM
Well as for me, I've being seeing the Tatooine wave for weeks and weeks now.

You're lucky.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 10, 2006, 04:14 PM
Well as for me, I've being seeing the Tatooine wave for weeks and weeks now.

You're lucky.

It seems like I've been seeing them for months!

*Roton thinks this post will annoy HOTP*
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on July 10, 2006, 06:17 PM
Tatooine's been spotty, huh? I still keep hearing people say they've never seen the wave yet. :( I went out on June 1 to look for them, and found them all just like that. Money's a nightmare right now, so I could gladly wait a while for Endor. But if it hits, I'll be chasing Chirpa and Threepio, no doubt!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2006, 11:24 PM
At the moment the Tat Wave isn't spotty here by a longshot.  Every retailer has them but Target.  Target's still lingering with Dofine's, Gummi Mundi's, and H&V...  Oh and Vaders of all kinds including some from the Tat Case but only Vader remains of that.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on July 11, 2006, 09:11 PM
Here's hoping the Gunner shows up on ebay overseas in quantity and a decent price so I can buy my dozen that way and not have to worry about the "hunt".

And to clarify an earlier post, I love removable helmet, I hate that Hasbro decided to ruin the OT by putting in the face of PT.  If anything it should be that bearded guy in all the 'behind the scenes' photos.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JediMAC on July 12, 2006, 06:08 AM
Hey, you guys need to stop all the fussing about the Gunner's helmet being "liftable", 'cause you're really hurting poor Adam Pawlus's feelings (http://www.galactichunter.com/q_and_a/060710.asp):

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I saw much complaining about the Death Star Gunner's removable helmet around the web after we got to announce it here. Wow. Some people must really have awesome lives. Me, I've got other things to worry about so I guess I must've been blind to what a horrible thing Hasbro did by adding extra play value, detail, and accessories to a figure which could've just been a straight repack of a sculpt from 1996. I truly must work on my priorities.

Hah.  This coming from a guy who's spending time every day writing up a crappy, daily (usually glowing) review of some figure that's 5 - 10 years old that no one gives a rat's ass about anymore?!?  Sheesh.  Pawlus is quickly approaching Phillip Wise territory with his "get a life" comments and attitude these days.  What an arrogont (and hypocritical) jackass.  ::)

I'll have to see this figure myself before basing any opinions on it.  I certainly have no interest in Gunners with liftable helmets, since there was obviously no such thing in the OT, but I guess it's a cool added feature, as long as it doesn't detract from the actual sculpt of the figure when it's in the down position (which is what remains to be seen, I guess).
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on July 12, 2006, 06:24 AM
I don't necessarily care for the idea that "everybody's Jango" underneath their clothes, either--but I don't see how adding more features and play value into a figure is a bad thing. 

What's great about a figure with a removable helmet is that--guess what--you don't ever have to take the helmet off, if you don't want to.  But for the people who do want to, it's kind of a neat little Easter Egg, if that terminology applies to action figures.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on July 12, 2006, 06:36 AM
And has it ever been explained why some clone figures have red eyes? I find it odd.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 12, 2006, 12:13 PM
They're left the emotions unaltered in those so they are pissed because they have no parents ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on July 12, 2006, 01:41 PM
And has it ever been explained why some clone figures have red eyes? I find it odd.

Because those are the really, really evil clones, duh.   :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 12, 2006, 01:50 PM
according to Hasblo ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on July 12, 2006, 02:28 PM
They're left the emotions unaltered in those so they are pissed because they have no parents ::)

And according to Smokey Robinson:

"There ain't too much sadder than the tears of a clone"
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 12, 2006, 04:02 PM
 ;D good1
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on July 12, 2006, 04:17 PM
And has it ever been explained why some clone figures have red eyes? I find it odd.

In non-canon reference (meaning I made it up), Jango was a refer man. This addiction to pot was kept, along with the affection for Bob Marley, to calm and sedate the normally volatile clone.  Therefore clones are often spotted with red eyes when Jedi or Sith aren't about (and unhelmeted, of course). ;) ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 12, 2006, 09:36 PM
The complaints about the Gunner are simply baffling. Don't people have imaginations anymore?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 12, 2006, 09:39 PM
SAGA-046: Rebel Trooper
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC46rebelendor1.jpg)

SAGA-046: Millenium Falcon Gunner (Varient)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC46rebelendor3.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on July 12, 2006, 09:44 PM
Those 2 will be a nice addition to the ever expanding collection. For some reason the photos look a bit cheesy of both IMO.  Nevertheless I am ready for buy those. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 12, 2006, 10:48 PM
I hope Endor starts hitting soon,just becuase I really want those 4 new figures.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 12, 2006, 11:56 PM
Those Rebel Troops will be welcomed in my collection, it'll be nice to have some nicely articulated Rebels for once. I just wish they came with some rifles too.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2006, 12:21 AM
Amen to that...

The Rebels are pretty high on my want list at this point.  I'll be buying them up like I'm buying up Sandtroopers here right now.  Customs are an obvious choice with this figure too, both styles, but I'm definitely happy that Hasbro finally put out a semi-decently poseable figure.  The arms still aren't perfect but they're miles ahead in quality compared to the Fleet Trooper or Hoth Rebels, no doubt.  Also the legs are the best one could have hoped for on the Rebel Soldier, so kudos to Hasbro there, and I love the holster for a side-arm.

I'll be decking these guys out with rifles as I get them, so they're not running around the forest with just pistols.  Any way you slice it though, these are vast improvements and a sign of Hasbro recognizing when they dropped the ball in the past.

Now all I need for them to do is fess up that the POTJ Fleet Trooper is a sub-par action figure, and make an all-new one with super (or damn near it) articulation. ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 13, 2006, 12:21 AM
I can't stand the horrible arm articulation!!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 13, 2006, 12:32 AM
Seeing better pics makes me want X 3 of each Rebel trooper,besides the horrid arms.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 13, 2006, 02:25 AM
I can't stand the horrible arm articulation!!

Agreed.  The new legs look pretty good, but why stick with those attrocious arms...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 13, 2006, 07:25 AM
I can't stand the horrible arm articulation!!

Agreed.  The new legs look pretty good, but why stick with those attrocious arms...

Hey, it could have been worse. Hasbro could've just repacked the '02 Rebel Trooper with its pre-posed legs instead of giving us SA legs. Besides, the arms have some articulation, albeit not the most practical.

I'm loving the Millenium Falcon Gunner though. I normally don't buy Rebel troops, but that's such a super-obscure figure, and I think it looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on July 13, 2006, 07:18 PM
The complaints about the Gunner are simply baffling. Don't people have imaginations anymore?

That's the problem.  I've imagined what was under the helmets of Stormtroopers, Gunners and various other masked characters since 1977.   And it doesn't match this.  So it is my imagination that makes it so hard to stomach all the PT run over into the OT...

I love the removable helmet, all helmets should be removable, but they shouldn't reveal clones.  Save that for the 65 Clone figures that come out and clog the case assortments.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 13, 2006, 09:11 PM
It's similar for me, but I wasn't quite born yet in 77'.

A lot of these changes Lucas had made to the OT to make it fit the PT I don't like... chief among them is dubbing Temura Morrison's voice over all of the troops voices - and over Fett's voice.

It just doesn't mix with the last 20 years of star wars fandom for me.

I'm all about removable helmets and bonus features, but I'm not interested in mushing the PT into the OT.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 13, 2006, 09:57 PM
Chief among them is dubbing Temura Morrison's voice over all of the troops voices - and over Fett's voice.

I thought Temuera's voice was only used on Fett- not the Stormtroopers.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2006, 09:58 PM
The trooper's voices haven't been dubbed over...  Which is every reason to not like Hasbro taking creative license with the likeness under the dome to me.  Should've been a generic face IMO.  The Scout appears to be just that so why not the Gunner ya know?  Oh well. :(
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 13, 2006, 10:01 PM
Am I the only one here who does not think that the DS Gunner's head looks like a Jango clone? 'Cause it doesn't.

 :P :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 13, 2006, 10:20 PM
Chief among them is dubbing Temura Morrison's voice over all of the troops voices - and over Fett's voice.

I thought Temuera's voice was only used on Fett- not the Stormtroopers.

I've only watched the DVD's from last year once, but I could have sworn...

I guess I was mistaken.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on July 13, 2006, 10:25 PM
The trooper's voices haven't been dubbed over...  

Not yet at least :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 13, 2006, 10:36 PM
Soon,maybe for all of  ANH & some of the ESB voices,but not the ROTJ just becuase  the clones would probally be old geezers by then. ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 13, 2006, 11:06 PM
Am I the only one here who does not think that the DS Gunner's head looks like a Jango clone? 'Cause it doesn't.

 :P :P

I didn't think it looked anything like him either.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 14, 2006, 12:27 AM
Given some of the face sculpts of late, that doesn't mean much.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 14, 2006, 01:01 PM
I like the RoboCop response earlier..to me, that still fits.

Rob...don't worry if you're wrong about the voices...I'm sure that's coming next..the way everything else has gone >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 16, 2006, 04:08 PM
I think Hasbro's trieing to do a late tie in to BF II,becuase the 501st technicians during the Empire wore DS Gunner armor.

Also anymore sightings?I'm thinking of going out soon & may pick up these 4 new figures.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on July 17, 2006, 02:35 AM
I stumbled accross a case of this wave tonight. The gunner is fan-*******-tastic! :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2006, 11:09 AM
I'm looking forward to adding another 6-8 DS gunners to the troops. Since the helmets will always be on, the sculpt underneath is meaningless to me. I appreaciate Hasbro doing it as a means of keeping old figures new again, but I would rather the resources were put toward putting knees in Momaw and things like that.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 17, 2006, 05:06 PM
What stores is this wave first hitting at?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on July 17, 2006, 06:08 PM
Now that we are hearing about this wave hitting, I'm getting the jones for some DS Gunners!!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on July 17, 2006, 06:59 PM
What stores is this wave first hitting at?

I'm in Utah and they hit at a local Target today, though only 1 case.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on July 18, 2006, 08:40 PM
Ok I was able to snag the Moff and Chief Chirpa today. I could have had 5 emperors, but PASS.

Here is a question...to is Chirpa kinda on the "small" side or do I just have "vintage-itis" when it comes to scale?  He seems diminutive, almost Wicket sized, but I could just be tainted by the old days.  I need one of the resident scale-ologists to help me out here.....Jesse?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 18, 2006, 09:22 PM
Ok I was able to snag the Moff and Chief Chirpa today. I could have had 5 emperors, but PASS.


You passed on the DS Gunner?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 18, 2006, 09:35 PM
I can pretty safely promise you that Paul didn't pass on Gunners (both because I know he wouldn't do that and because he already told me about his score) - they just didn't have any.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 18, 2006, 09:57 PM
Where do you live I am really excited for this wave & want to go out as soon as it hits FL.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 18, 2006, 10:03 PM
I can pretty safely promise you that Paul didn't pass on Gunners

Crap... I was hoping the Gunner would be as plentiful as the AT-AT Driver was...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 18, 2006, 10:14 PM
Wow,AT-AT Drivers were plentiful,I've never seen one. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on July 18, 2006, 10:26 PM
No definately did not pass on DS Gunners.

Dallas, Texas and they were at Wal Mart.

I was amazed to find them, I just went in on a whim...

I will not be passing on DS Gunners till about number 20.  I'm gonna do some head swaps (at least plan to) to make better DS Troopers and Imp Officers (the POTJ version with more articulation basically)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 19, 2006, 12:07 AM
I plan on 10,at stores & some more Gunners later on.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Mikey D on July 19, 2006, 09:19 AM

Here is a question...to is Chirpa kinda on the "small" side or do I just have "vintage-itis" when it comes to scale?  He seems diminutive, almost Wicket sized, but I could just be tainted by the old days.  I need one of the resident scale-ologists to help me out here.....Jesse?

I'd say he's on the short side.  Wicket was one of the younger and thus, shorter Ewoks.  Chirpa should be around the same height as Teebo and Logray I think.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/DSC01971.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 19, 2006, 10:30 AM
For anyone who has the Moff, can you compare his colors to those of Ozzel, Motti, and Veers?  A pic would be even better!  I'm just curious who he is closer in color to :-*
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 19, 2006, 02:00 PM
I think the Chirpa is pretty close, but that 1997 Wicket is entirely too big.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on July 19, 2006, 07:30 PM
Chirpa seems pretty close to me too. I was thinking about buying a few extras for customs, but it is hard to justify spending $7 on that tiny hunk of plastic. They really should have made him a two pack and included Romba or Lumat.

For what it is though, it's a pretty good figure. I like the little knife feature and thge sculpt is pretty good.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JediMAC on July 20, 2006, 03:36 AM
I moved some of the inane discussion on Florida finds into the... yep, Florida Finds thread. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=13189.msg245867#msg245867)  Good luck with your Florida hunting!

Upon somewhat further review of this wave, I think 3PO's unpainted (and therefor mismatching) knee joints look like **** and ruin an otherwise great, and long overdue, figure.

The Impy Gunner looks great, though his "clown collar" looks a little bit silly, though it's apparently accurate based on the pic.  His head is tiny when the helmet's off though, almost Beetlejuice-esque.  So that's almost a pointless feature really, since it displays pretty poorly that way (still a nice added touch though, I guess).

Chirpa is TINY.  I'll have to get him next to the previous Ewoks to see how he compares, but at this point, he's looking to be barely bigger than Wickett.  Nice detailing though...

Jerjerrod looks pretty good, for what he is, a boring looking Imperial Officer.  He's got one helluva scowl going, with some seriously furled eye brows.  Good stuff!

The Emperor's a piece of ****, just like he was before.  Maybe some slightly different eye makeup going, but that's about it.  Ridiculous hood ruins the figure.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2006, 04:55 AM
Are you guys finding the Troopers too, or are they not in this and are in the Naboo Wave?  I was a little confused on that, but they're probably who I'm looking forward to the most.  Looks like a pretty vast improvement even with the lacking arm articulation (which isn't horribly lacking, it just lacks some).

Jerjerrod strikes me as odd looking and nothing like he should appear, or looks like in the films...

Chief Chirpa is a midget and I'm currently a little bummed.  I gotta check the film to be sure, but he really should be a bit larger.  No club too?  bummer.

3PO is what If igured they'd do...  They could have pulled off vac-metalized joints I think, without fear of it chipping, but it would've taken a little more creativity on the figure's design that they didn't put forth on it so that's disappointing, but I'd imagine this is as good as it gets with this one.

The DSG is the wave's highlight for me (if no Rebels are in the mix).  Even with a small head, I'm cool with that.  The figure itself is really one of their better efforts in the entire 2006 basic line.

Emperor can eat a fat one.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JediMAC on July 20, 2006, 04:57 AM
What Troopers?  The Endor Troopers?  If so, no, they're not in this wave, for whatever dumb reason...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 20, 2006, 10:24 AM
I found Chirpa, Threepio and the Moff yesterday.

The unpainted leg aside :rolleyes: , I was very impressed with the threepio.  Best Threepio to date IMO.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on July 20, 2006, 03:30 PM
Is 3PO new or just the legs?  I'm guessing the former.


Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 20, 2006, 07:12 PM
He's totally new. The head is ball-jointed, the thighs and knees are articulated, and the right arm is removable. Therefore, this is the ultimate C-3PO! I could go without a new OT C-3PO for the rest of my life now that I have this!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2006, 07:25 PM
How is Chief Chirpa size compared to the Vintage Wicket? Same? Slightly bigger?

Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Rob on July 20, 2006, 11:05 PM
He's totally new. The head is ball-jointed, the thighs and knees are articulated, and the right arm is removable. Therefore, this is the ultimate C-3PO! I could go without a new OT C-3PO for the rest of my life now that I have this!

Funny how potentially the worst Threepio to date was the $10.00 VOTC one, and this one is way better for 3 dollars less.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 20, 2006, 11:12 PM
Actually POTF 2 was the worst,like most of POTF 2, TOO DAMN BUFF!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on July 20, 2006, 11:23 PM
They should have saved the knee articulation for the upcoming Titanium figure:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc06/preview-Hasbro2/IMG_0048.JPG)

Would have looked much better, and would have given everybody a good reason to fork out the extra cash for a Titanium figure.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 20, 2006, 11:38 PM
Eh, I'd rather have a Basic figure with knees than a titanium figure. Great Titanium 3PO though,vwill pick that onevup!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on July 24, 2006, 02:54 PM
Found Chirpa and Threepio today. Love these guys! Chirpa's a great little figure. :) Love the little details and accessories. The knife and sheath are a nice touch. It's also neat how he can sit in the throne in place of Threepio, since he is the chief. ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on July 24, 2006, 03:26 PM
Hey, you guys need to stop all the fussing about the Gunner's helmet being "liftable", 'cause you're really hurting poor Adam Pawlus's feelings (http://www.galactichunter.com/q_and_a/060710.asp):

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I saw much complaining about the Death Star Gunner's removable helmet around the web after we got to announce it here. Wow. Some people must really have awesome lives. Me, I've got other things to worry about so I guess I must've been blind to what a horrible thing Hasbro did by adding extra play value, detail, and accessories to a figure which could've just been a straight repack of a sculpt from 1996. I truly must work on my priorities.

Hah.  This coming from a guy who's spending time every day writing up a crappy, daily (usually glowing) review of some figure that's 5 - 10 years old that no one gives a rat's ass about anymore?!?  Sheesh.  Pawlus is quickly approaching Phillip Wise territory with his "get a life" comments and attitude these days.  What an arrogont (and hypocritical) jackass.  ::)

I'll have to see this figure myself before basing any opinions on it.  I certainly have no interest in Gunners with liftable helmets, since there was obviously no such thing in the OT, but I guess it's a cool added feature, as long as it doesn't detract from the actual sculpt of the figure when it's in the down position (which is what remains to be seen, I guess).

Hugs all around, and hi (since you didn't seem to hear me at the show).
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on July 24, 2006, 03:34 PM
This hobby is such a ******* joy.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on July 24, 2006, 04:03 PM
 :D

I don't mind the Jango faces behind the OT helmets.  Granted, I'm not an EU expert like a lot of you but in my world of SW, it makes sense.

I guess if you don't like it but still want the figure you could super glue the helmet on.  Then the temptation isn't there to look at the face.

You know, like a paper bag on an ugly chick.

 ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JediMAC on July 24, 2006, 05:14 PM
Hugs all around, and hi (since you didn't seem to hear me at the show).

Didn't hear you say what at the show? (no way in hell you were trying to say "hello" to ME there)  I've tried chatting with you at numerous shows, stores, etc., Adam, and you wouldn't give me the time of day, and mostly seemed annoyed with someone just trying to talk to you.  It just gets tiring after a while even bothering, when there's plenty of others site members/staff members/admins/webmasters who are far more friendly and down to earth...

Hell, even talking to you in the Target store was a painstaking chore.  We're all in this hobby together, ya' know?  It's the smugness that bugs, and the demeaning attitude, that's all.

- Matt

P.S.  Just so I can contribute something on topic here, it took all of about 4 or 5 days for Jerjerrod to start pegwarming out here.  I found him (with zero other Endor figures) at 3 different WM's on the way down to SDCC last week.  Heck, not even that ****** re-released Emperor was  anywhere to be found.  Befuddling.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on July 25, 2006, 12:00 AM
Matt-- PM sent.  (Or sending.)

It's not my intent to come off as a huge colossal boil on the rear of fans worldwide.   And I hope you don't take the awkwardness of someone caught off guard as a huge insult because I've got a problem remembering names and faces after one meeting, especially given the fact that I had no idea our paths would cross on a toy run.   But it happens, and hey, I know for next time.   I just typically leave everybody I don't consider a close personal friend alone because I have a bad habit of overstaying my welcome when people want to leave.   So I overcompensate.   My fault at times.

Smug?  Arrogant?  Well, that's not my intent.  Frankly, I don't think there's any reason anyone should care what I have to say most of the time, much like what Philip supposedly said about just not bothering to read it if you don't like it.  Star Wars news comes in dozens of flavors, if Rebelscum doesn't float your boat, the great folks at Yoda's News, Sir Steve's, and The Jawa do a great job of posting information, as does Jedi Defender, who seems to be great at posting stories and is the first place I always go when a big announcement is made when I want to see fan commentary.

I can't respond to everything so I don't promise to, but so far this year I try to address anything I'm asked on some level if I can.    I don't post on a lot of forums anymore because it tends to become personal and like my English teacher always told me, "nobody cares what you [you being me] think."

Part of the reason I write what I do (and how I do) is to see what people think about such topics, like the Figure of the Day (which I see some hate and some love) reminding people of toy hunts they had 10 years ago.   I still like the figures I bought 10 years ago.   But that's me.   I'm more interested in seeing if what I have to say sparks a discussion regarding how great a figure was from back then, or how much it sucked.   I'm also trying to write a column every day in an attempt to bolster content in the slow seasons, and I really hope that other people see it and go "I can do WAY better than Pawlus" and start another column so I can read theirs.   I have more fun reading what others have to say than I do writing my own columns.

We're absolutely in this hobby together.   But I'm just trying to write something people find interesting and leave people alone outside of that-- I don't always understand why some things are a bad thing, like the removable helmet on the Death Star Gunner, or the Marvel EU figure packs.  (I think those are awesome.  But as anyone who remembers my redesign of Yakface.com can attest to, I likes the funky colors.)  I was just firing an email back at someone today who was going about how much they loved the tins, saying I thought they were kinda so-so but still a great idea at a (seemingly) good price.   Then again, I love the tiny white TIE fighter and have been told I'm nuts too.   'tis all the fun of the hobby, but still, c'mon, removable helmets are the love.

I'm in no way saying "get a life" as some might imply, I spend a really huge amount of time writing, researching, and joining the never-ending debate on all things Star Wars as best I can.   Just usually not on forums because, as you can see here, the only thing I'm good at producing are responses that warrant the dreaded "TLDR" response.   I'm just a magnet for people's hate mail to Hasbro, and as you can see, it shows.

And back to on topic... I've seen the Endor Wave in LA about a half dozen times so far-- but just at Wal-marts so far.   I loves me some Chirpa.   (Just go in the mornings.  That's when you can get a fresh kill.   That or at lunch.   The kill isn't so fresh but hey, light traffic gets you out of the store faster.)

I've wasted enough of your afternoon, anyway.   Thanks for reading.   Your pal,

--AP
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on July 25, 2006, 12:10 AM
I am all for seeing the Endor wave at a Target store soon.  Mainly because my coworkers gave me a $20 gift card for my 1 year anniversary there (oh yeah and the cheese cake to).  Anyway, just trying to lighten the mood up a tadbit  :-\

Just for the record....the Jango heads underneath the imperials are kind of odd to get used to IMO. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on July 25, 2006, 12:14 AM
I am all for seeing the Endor wave at a Target store soon.  Mainly because my coworkers gave me a $20 gift card for my 1 year anniversary there (oh yeah and the cheese cake to).  Anyway, just trying to lighten the mood up a tadbit  :-\

Just for the record....the Jango heads underneath the imperials are kind of odd to get used to IMO. 

It's weird, but I figure this is the "Hasbro Continuity," much like the yellow green Plo Koon saber and some of the other general weirdness.   I find it really odd too, but I leave the helmets on.  I just like the option of taking them off, or using them for other purposes (clone trainees, engineers, etc.) or whatever.   Of course, I *LOVE* the idea of Hasbro designing original concepts if they're good, solid ideas, so basically anything original but the Cruisemissile Trooper is awesome. :)   (Mini Rigs = yes.)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: speedermike on July 25, 2006, 08:42 AM
Imperial Troop Transport?  Yes!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on July 25, 2006, 05:31 PM
RS has pics of the new Endor Luke:

Carded (http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC44luke1.jpg)
Loose (http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC44luke2.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on July 25, 2006, 05:43 PM
Did we ever figure out which mold(s) Luke is comprised of?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on July 25, 2006, 05:47 PM
I think the popular opinion is that it's the Saga 2004 Jabba's Palace Luke with a new right hand.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/sw0404lukejedifront.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nicklab on July 25, 2006, 05:49 PM
It's not opinion, it's fact.  I confirmed as much with a Hasbro rep at SDCC.  Endor Luke is based on the Jabba's palace figure but with a gloved right hand and the added accessories.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 25, 2006, 05:51 PM
:D

I don't mind the Jango faces behind the OT helmets. 
 ;)

Nah, I kinda dig it.  For those who don't like it, leave the helmet on!  Removable helmets look better anyhow because it's more realistic the way the neck is underneath and all.  Overall, it's a good idea, and I like how it's official that all of these goons were in fact Jango.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on July 25, 2006, 05:53 PM
It's all good, brother man.

 8)

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on July 25, 2006, 05:57 PM
It's not opinion, it's fact.

Okay then, it's FACT.

Pardon me.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nicklab on July 25, 2006, 06:20 PM
It's not opinion, it's fact.

Okay then, it's FACT.

Pardon me.

Do that again and I might have to wear sunglasses to work on my computer.   ;D 

I think a number of sites were asking Hasbro to take Endor Luke out of the case in San Diego.  I saw one of the RS guys trying to make that happen, but I don't think Hasbro wanted to accomodate the request.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 25, 2006, 06:45 PM
I think the popular opinion is that it's the Saga 2004 Jabba's Palace Luke with a new right hand.

Although apparently that's true, the head looks like it may be retooled.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 27, 2006, 12:02 AM
Will definately pick Luke up!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on July 27, 2006, 01:08 AM
How come we only have threads by wave and not for each figure? ???
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 27, 2006, 01:24 AM
IMO threads about every figure are stupid and annoying. Threads about every wave don't clutter the forums as much.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on July 27, 2006, 01:24 AM
How come we only have threads by wave and not for each figure? ???

Because if we started a new thread for every new figure like some sites, we'd have had at least 22 new threads thanks to comic-con.  That's a lot of threads, and a lot of good discussion would get buried on page three just because of the volume of threads.   :-\

If people want to start a thread for a particular figure (like, for example, the way the DS Gunner got his own thread, or the BARC Trooper), that is fine.  We just don't like to go overboard with 74 different threads for the 74 2006 Saga figures is all...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jediknight760071 on July 27, 2006, 02:43 AM
Kind of like what GNT and I were doing in the race up to Episode III?

Sorry...but that was on RS...shouldn't count. 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on July 27, 2006, 04:04 AM
So, Chirpa's the first Ewok to ever have a T crotch, isn't he? I can't recall any that didn't a V. I'm glad they went this route. His feet don't splay to an obscene degree when sitting. I love sitting him in the throne. Looks like I'll have to pick up another Threepio/second chair. ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2006, 09:51 AM
These still haven't shown up here quite yet, but I'm really looking forward to the wave overall.  Looking at some pics online, Chirpa looks pretty nice - but after seeing comparison shots with previous Ewok releases, I think we could use a resculpted Wicket (definitely) and maybe Logray as well eventually.  Teebo still looks great though.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 27, 2006, 11:43 AM
Yeah, it's been a week since these have broke. I'm surprised they really haven't hit hard yet. I'm sure they'll really start hitting in two weeks when I can't get out in the morning for the rest of the summer. :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 31, 2006, 12:21 AM
3PO is my favorite non-trooper figure ever.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on July 31, 2006, 01:44 AM
3PO is my favorite non-trooper figure ever.

My fave fig ever has gotta be EB Chewie. ;D From this wave it's Chirpa, but I do dig Threepio!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on July 31, 2006, 08:08 AM
Moff Jerrod has to be the worst figure of the bunch especially if you take his lack of leg articulation into account.

Where is Jesse?

 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jim on July 31, 2006, 11:13 AM
Moff Jerrod has to be the worst figure of the bunch especially if you take his lack of leg articulation into account.

Where is Jesse?

 8)

I boiled my legs, moved them and cooled them off quick and they are now fine.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on July 31, 2006, 11:31 AM
I boiled my legs, moved them and cooled them off quick and they are now fine.

That sounds like it would hurt, a lot. :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on July 31, 2006, 01:01 PM
Moff Jerrod has to be the worst figure of the bunch especially if you take his lack of leg articulation into account.



Like Veers, he still coudn't sit down because of his plastic skirt piece.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Roton7 on July 31, 2006, 02:13 PM
I boiled my legs, moved them and cooled them off quick and they are now fine.

That sounds like it would hurt, a lot. :-X

I was thinking the same thing! ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on July 31, 2006, 11:55 PM
Moff Jerrod has to be the worst figure of the bunch especially if you take his lack of leg articulation into account.

Where is Jesse?

 8)
Out of the new one yes, but out of the whole wave it's Palpatine.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on August 1, 2006, 02:13 PM
I can't believe they are rereleasing that Palpatine.  Wow that thing or horrifically bad looking.  You could almost use that thing as Mr. Hanky the Christmas Poo from South Park. 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 1, 2006, 10:07 PM
Chirpa is gorgeous.  So much sculpted and painted detail on a properly scaled figure.  That tiny removeable dagger is incredible too.  Bring on Paploo, Romba, etc.!
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on August 1, 2006, 10:58 PM
I can't believe they are rereleasing that Palpatine.  Wow that thing or horrifically bad looking.  You could almost use that thing as Mr. Hanky the Christmas Poo from South Park. 
Mr. Hanky looks so much more better than this crap! :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 3, 2006, 11:49 AM
I can't believe they are rereleasing that Palpatine.  Wow that thing or horrifically bad looking.  You could almost use that thing as Mr. Hanky the Christmas Poo from South Park. 

Let's not level insults at the festive log of ****, I think I speak for all of us when I say we'd rather see Mr. Hanky mounted on a cardback over Palpatine any day.

(http://www.toyrocket.com/assets/photos/STHP33394f.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 3, 2006, 12:48 PM
Well, fortunately you DON'T speak for all of us. Ridiculous.... I'll take the Palps(as bad as he is) over carded **** anyday.

Signed a South Park Hater
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on August 3, 2006, 03:13 PM
I am confused.  I have no love for South Park myself but isn't that Palpatine best described as a turd anyway? ???
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 3, 2006, 05:20 PM
I am confused.  I have no love for South Park myself but isn't that Palpatine best described as a turd anyway? ???

At best.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 3, 2006, 08:58 PM
I wonder.... we could test it out, right?

We could take turns dropping Mr. Hanky and the Emperor in the toilet then yell to our spouses to brag about 'look at the size of this ****' and if they responded I think only the SP one actually visually resembles a **** we could be proud of.

Well, IMO since Mr. Hanky visually does look like a turd at least. ::) :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Diddly on August 3, 2006, 10:09 PM
I found several of the Palpatine and Jerjerrod today, it didn't surprise me that these guys were left behind. What DID surprise me, however, is that all of the cards (except the one Jerjerrod I got) were trashed completely to hell. The figures themselves were fine, but the cards and the holos were all messed up. Anyone else seen this?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on August 3, 2006, 11:21 PM
Anyone else seen this?

I've only taken note of a couple Tatooine figs being thrashed, with Solo looking like he'd been under a UPS truck. At that I had to laugh and laaauuugh.....

 :D
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on August 4, 2006, 12:52 PM
No, the only figure I've ever seen that had a bad card was Foul, which I picked up.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on August 6, 2006, 04:53 PM
anyone have the endor c-3p0? My son got his for his birthday last week and I noticed today that some of the gold finish has rubber off.  has anyone else experienced this? is this common or a bad case of poor gold finish application?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on August 6, 2006, 06:44 PM
anyone have the endor c-3p0? My son got his for his birthday last week and I noticed today that some of the gold finish has rubber off.  has anyone else experienced this? is this common or a bad case of poor gold finish application?

Mine has a few tiny spots rubbed off.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 7, 2006, 09:57 AM
Mine has a few flake spots. Also, I just posted in the POTF2 section that at least one of my older 3PO's is having major flaking problems.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on August 7, 2006, 09:59 AM
Have any of you guys tried Head and Shoulders on 3PO? :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: ruiner on August 8, 2006, 03:49 PM
The Endor wave is in stock at hasbrotoyshop.com if anyone still needs them.  If you use the comic con code, you can get them for $6.30.

Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Matt on August 14, 2006, 10:41 AM
3PO is what If igured they'd do...  They could have pulled off vac-metalized joints I think, without fear of it chipping, but it would've taken a little more creativity on the figure's design that they didn't put forth on it so that's disappointing, but I'd imagine this is as good as it gets with this one.

They've fixed the Threepio somewhat. 

From GH:

Pic 1 (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/5685-C3POVariationRedPic1.JPG)
Pic 2 (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/5685-C3POVariationRedPic2.JPG)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on August 14, 2006, 11:24 AM
The difference is really remarkable when you see them side-by-side.  The version that came in my EE case is the 2nd VacMetal joints version and it looks a LOT nicer than the first "ugly unpainted joints" version.   :)

On the topic of 3PO, he's turning out to be my favorite from this wave.  Great articulation in the legs and head, removable arms, the throne - really one of the nicest 3POs we've ever seen I think.

He's especially better than the Greatest Battles version out there on the pegs at the same time...  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Reid on August 14, 2006, 04:23 PM
Saw this wave at Target today, except for the DSG, Chrpa, 3P0, and Palpatine. Only Jerjerrod was there. Still, it was nice to know that this wave is hitting in my area.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Dan on August 14, 2006, 04:32 PM
This wave has been spotty to find- I have noticed walmarts in my area resetting toy aisles, and very few figures to be found other than greatest battles.

Target seems to have expanded their peg space for them, but all I am finding are tatooine and greatest battles there as well.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jayson on August 14, 2006, 05:03 PM
On the topic of 3PO, he's turning out to be my favorite from this wave.  Great articulation in the legs and head, removable arms, the throne - really one of the nicest 3POs we've ever seen I think.

He's especially better than the Greatest Battles version out there on the pegs at the same time...  ::)

And to add insult to injury,  the GB version costs 50¢ more at some Targets  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on August 16, 2006, 03:21 AM
The difference is nice...  Are the pins really vac-metalized though or just colored properly by cast in a similar color plastic with like a metallic tinge to it?  I, of course, haven't seen either one in person but the improvement's a really nice effort from Hasbro I think.

Short of some extra articulation at some of the "joints" of the costume, like just below the shoulder plate for instance, I agree this is probably the best 3PO in the line.  Plus the giant throne accessory (when usually you get nothing), that's a major plus in and of itself.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jeff on August 16, 2006, 10:21 AM
Are the pins really vac-metalized though or just colored properly by cast in a similar color plastic with like a metallic tinge to it?

They look "cast in a similar color plastic with like a metallic tinge" to me... not quite vac-metal, but close enough in appearance so as not to distract like the unpainted version.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 16, 2006, 10:23 AM
I hate these running changes, because I bought the 3 I neede for my dio scenes, as soon as they came out.  It's a minor thing, granted, but I would have liked to get the newer version the first time out.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: BrentS on August 16, 2006, 10:41 AM
I finally found this wave in person today.  I picked up some gunners and Moffs.  The 3POs on the shelf were the "old" unpainted versions, so it must be an older case that just got put out.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on August 17, 2006, 06:47 PM
Should Vader have a good guy holo? In the scene this figure is based on he was technically a good guy. ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on August 17, 2006, 10:09 PM
You are correct Artoo.  I sense another running change with good guy holograms! 
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: JediMAC on August 18, 2006, 04:25 AM
They've fixed the Threepio somewhat...

I was really excited when GH posted that scoop, as I discussed that exact (annoying) silver knee issue with one of the Hasbro reps down at SDCC a few weeks ago (even mentioned it our our Q &A).  The 3PO sample they had in their display cabinet had the silver painted knee joint, but at that time, nobody had seen anything but the awkward, mismatched gold knee joint so far at retail.  I asked them why they couldn't do the correct color with the regular production of the C-3PO figures, similar to their paint sample on display, and the Hasbro guy thought it must be a running change, since he didn't even know of the miscolored gold ones.  I figured he just didn't know what the heck he was talking about, since their display samples usually have much nicer paint jobs than the finished versions, but sure as hell, the guy was (fortunately) right, and there's indeed been a running change to this figure, as I finally found my first corrected batch tonight.  Fortunately, I hadn't opened any of the earlier ones that I'd bought yet, so a couple of them will be going back, in favor of the new silver kneed one.  Glad to see Hasbro on the ball there, even if it means sticking me with yet another unwanted carded "variation".
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on August 18, 2006, 08:53 AM
I'm glad to see this running change as well, hopefully it won't be too tough to find.  The Endor wave hasn't really hit heavily around here yet, so hopefully those are still on the way.  I found 1 3PO a couple of weeks ago and picked it up, but it is the original version.  Still no signs of the Death Star Gunners, so I must have missed them the first time.  The only Endor figure I've seen since that first find is a lone Chirpa amongst the "Greatest Battles" figures at Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on August 20, 2006, 11:18 AM
That 3PO change sorta sucks for me, since I'm not picking up another one. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Gatillo on August 20, 2006, 11:36 AM
I have not seen either one but the 1st one sucks compared to the modified one, which b/c of it and variation hunters it will be a bitch to find.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on August 20, 2006, 11:43 AM
The thing is about 3POs is I never found the AOTC version, who was supposed to be a warmer, but people seem to be having a hard time finding this. :P
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on August 20, 2006, 11:53 AM
I am beginning to think this wave is not going to show up at Target....

I've seen the latest "Re-pack of the Sith" waves but still no Endor..
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on August 20, 2006, 11:54 AM
Target never gets anything good. ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 21, 2006, 09:59 AM
Target is getting the wave, they're just getting it more slowly than WM at the moment.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 21, 2006, 07:21 PM
Agree with Anton....relax..it will come. As I recall, Target got the last 3-4 waves before WM did..just to put a stake in that 'Target never gets anything' theory ;). Way I remember last year with ROTS it went back in forth but the later part of the year WM got the waves 2-3 weeks before Targets it seemed.

The only thing that matters is about WHEN the product hits and at what store. The fact remains that it will hit eventually..now,whether your at your store at that time or not...
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Kit on August 30, 2006, 03:09 AM
The target that I always go to just started getting the wave.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on August 30, 2006, 04:40 PM
A friend said he just found cases upon cases of these out in the Eastern half ot he state at WM, so maybe they're surfacing here too.  Time to hit the store I guess.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on September 5, 2006, 03:54 PM
I finally found the corrected C-3PO the other day. There are only 2 versions, right? Do any of them actually have the same vac metal on the knees as on the figure? That's what I was expecting, but the 2nd version I found looks more like the knee joints are made of a plastic that's colored more metallic-looking as opposed to having vac metal on it. And the right knee is silver whereas the 1st one was not.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on September 5, 2006, 06:02 PM
The knees are pliable PVC so they can't be vac-metalized...  I'm guessing this is just so they dont' go all loose on us over time as that's the usual reason for that type of plastic...  It's the only version I've seen so far, but looks pretty sharp actually...  I'm just wondering if 3PO's right foot is silver or gold in the films...  The toy's foot is silver like the shin but I thought just the shin was silver in the movie, while the foot was his "original" foot and still gold...

Oh well.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ook on September 5, 2006, 06:39 PM
Judging by the pic on the cover of "The Story of Star Wars" LP, it's silver like the shin. But then, I never noticed any silver at all, and only heard about it in recent years.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Paul on September 5, 2006, 08:25 PM
It is official, I saw this wave at Target today.  Not DSG's...and it was the "corrected" C3PO.  FYI
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 17, 2006, 02:14 PM
Alright, it's official, Target is behind on this wave. Aside for the scan reports, this wave hasn't really hit Target and now the next wave is out at WM. I wonder what's going on.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on September 17, 2006, 02:25 PM
WM is finally being good for the rest of you guys?
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Ryan on September 17, 2006, 09:11 PM
Alright, it's official, Target is behind on this wave. Aside for the scan reports, this wave hasn't really hit Target and now the next wave is out at WM. I wonder what's going on.

It does seem strange Target was whooping WallyWorld for the first few waves this year but they have fallen behind all of sudden. I have seen Endor several times at my local Target now. Endornever seemed to hit very heavily here. It seemed to be overshadowed by the Greatest Pegwarmers.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on September 22, 2006, 09:38 PM
I really hope WM is like this for the rest of this year & next year. I never go to Target because the good Target is too far from me.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Nicklab on September 28, 2006, 06:36 PM
For those of you who are into DK's line of reference books, you may have noticed an interesting tidbit on the caucasian Endor Rebel Trooper who is part of the Battle of Endor wave (pt2).  He's got a name!  According to the book, this trooper isn't just a trooper, he's a flag officer by the name of General Cracken (sp?).  You can get that info from the newly released Complete Visual Dictionary which is in stores now.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Artoo on September 28, 2006, 07:55 PM
Wow, they're even naming characters who appeared in deleted scenes now! ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 6, 2006, 09:40 AM
Although one of my local Targets have reported to get the initial Endor wave in, once, all of the others seem to be getting the revison case with ROTS figs and only 3 Endor figs.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: DoctorPadawan on October 6, 2006, 10:15 AM
The Target nearest me never got any of the Endor wave cases in, even during their sale a week or two ago.  Luckily, Toys R Us and both Wal-Marts got multiple shipments of the wave (sadly they're the only Saga figures on the shelves 99% of the time when I go in; I'll be seeing Jerjerrods and Palpatines in my nightmares for years to come, I fear) because Target is so busy getting one case after another of the Greatest Baffle assortment (or the "Land of a Thousand Threepios" assortment) that they can't get regular Saga product on the pegs.

They did, however, get one case of the refresh wave with the earlier Saga figures (Scorch, Utapau Clone, AT-AT Driver) with the DSG an Threepio included, but outside of that, Endor never touched their Palpatine/Threepio/Padme/R2-D2 infested pegs.   :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Jesse James on October 9, 2006, 04:06 PM
Endor, like Naboo figs, are still scarce around me...  The initial Endor figs are starting to pile up, most noteably Jerjerrod is pegwarming at many locations.  The Endor Rebels are a PAIN to find though for someone who actually was looking forward to them.

The first Endor figures though are starting to sit some, except Chirpa is moving fast...  3PO is sitting slightly, Jerjerrod and Palpy a lot, and the DSG comes in and sits one or two here and there but I think he's still selling steadily.  Just easy to find now, thank goodness. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: Brian on October 9, 2006, 04:55 PM
Our local WM has recently gotten those cardboard "holders" (to be set on endcaps) full of the Greatest Battles figures as well as the initial Endor wave.  There seems to be plenty of 3POs, Emperors and Jerjerrods.  I was tempted to pick up some more Gunners, and might still do that if they're still around.  It does seem like Chirpa has been selling pretty good though, I definitely see the least of him out of the wave.
Title: Re: Battle of Endor Wave
Post by: David on October 10, 2006, 11:18 PM
oh gb and h+v, how I hate you so! You have prevented me from getting any new Wave 6 stuff, and with Wave 7 out now and me being an obssesive completist, i am sure to get migraines and mental fits everytime i go to target for a long time to come, because between lushros and gb figs, no new stuff is comin to my area anytime soon :'(